From dlh2001 at comcast.net Mon Jun 4 23:14:04 2007 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 01:14:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] half shafts References: <609531.71807.qm@web50603.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001001c7a730$5641f360$0300a8c0@BLACKBOXB> The later, stronger axle shafts have small groove cut perpendicular to the splines. From: "Andy Webster" > Someone was talking about axle shafts a week or so ago... > specifically, that BTA-806 shafts from later models were stronger than > the earlier shafts. > Did the earlier shafts have a number other than BTA-806? > I seem to remember that this is the number on my half shafts..and also > seem to remember > EN-17 being on there too. I have a mk2 sprite, which came with a spare > half shaft in the boot, > strongly suggesting that the shaft issue had arisen for a previous owner. > I'd like to know how I can tell if I got me 2 o the good ones in there. > Andy From mark at bradakis.com Sun Jun 3 23:14:25 2007 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J. Bradakis) Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 23:14:25 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] List changes Message-ID: <46639FB1.8060800@bradakis.com> I'm slowly getting around to moving the various Team.Net lists from the majordomo list management software to Mailman. I'm working on spridgets at the moment. Some things will be different, some will be the same. As before, if you want to send mail to spridgets at autox.team.net you send mail to spridgets at autox.team.net - you'd be surprised at how many folks can NOT figure that one out! With Mailman, managing your subscription should be more web friendly. You can go to the web pages listed in the messages and muck about with your settings. One major change is that there is now just the one list spridgets at autox.team.net, the list spridgets-digest at autox.team.net no longer exists. But this doesn't mean there is no digest format, it just means that one doesn't need to unsubscribe from one list and subscribe to the other just to switch formats. Go to the list pages, log in, and select digest or non-digest as you desire. I plan on working up a web page RealSoonNow that covers the changes in more detail. mjb. From mjb at autox.team.net Mon Jun 4 00:00:12 2007 From: mjb at autox.team.net (Mark J. Bradakis) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 00:00:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster Message-ID: <4663AA6C.3060508@autox.team.net> Here's one that got snagged in the list shuffle. mjb. Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 00:56:08 -0700 From: b-evans at earthlink.net Subject: The English odyssey of Frank and Buster As we crisscrossed the back roads and rural lanes of England, I lost count of the times Frank Clarici muttered, "Damn, I wish I had my Sprite on this road!" Such is the vast road course of England away from the cities and "dual carriageways". Although he had insisted he would not drive on the wrong side of the road in our odyssey, he quickly changed his tune when I had taken a brief jet-lag snooze on the on the northbound M-1. From then on, he had a great time on the English roads, especially going around and around on the roundabouts trying to find the right route. And, of course, driving on to the next roundabout when we finally realized we were lost and had to go back the way we were coming. Frank developed quite a palette for English food, and was ready to enjoy everything from Yorkshire pudding to blood pudding to bangers and mash to mushy peas with his fish and chips! And yes, he did bring home some spotted dick. He even cleaned his plate of the traditional fully cooked English breakfast. The Spridget list members we met proved to be great hosts. We cannot thank enough Daniel Stapleton (daniel1312 at aol.com), and his family, Alan and Pam East-Jones (alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com), and Jim and Vicky Lodder (blacktulipmidget at yahoo.co.uk) who will now be visiting Pam and myself in Southern California in August. We also took the opportunity to drop by the shop of Pete Farmer (pete.farmer at virgin.net), one of England's premier Sprite and "other" Healey restorers who is currently preparing cars to bring over to events this year and next. Visiting AH Spares, we received a great welcome from its managing director, Bob Hill, who not only supplied us with some needed parts, but passed along some free trinkets, as well. While there, he and Gordon Barton shared with us an "unknown" photo of the latter in a prototype sprite with flip up headlights and a strangely configured bonnet. Although Donald Healey would have had kittens if he had known a photo had been taken of this particular prototype, Bob thought that he had been gone long enough that we could get a copy for the Lake of the Ozarks celebration next year. Along the way, we were able to be the typical tourists to England, taking in the Coventry Transport Museum, Stonehenge, Warwick Castle, Salisbury Cathedral, Admiral Lord Nelson's historic fighting ship "Victory", and Lord Pembroke's magnificent Elizabethan Wilton House. Finally, it was off to the Beaulieu Autojumble. You would think that Frank was a little boy in a candy shop as he discovered that what I had been talking about was true. It was truly amazing what treasures he could discover when he began rummaging through hundreds of bins of assorted used parts. As I had found years ago, he began loading up on things that he didn't need right now, but either could not pass up or knew he would eventually need someday. I had told him to bring along an empty suitcase, and fortunately he did. We were both amazed when he was able to cram all of his goodies into his two suitcases! Although I had two more weeks in England, I had to bid Frank farewell the next day when he left Gatwick Airport for home. All in all, it was a great trip, and I would highly recommend Frank as a travel partner, for he proved that he has never met a stranger. In fact, the regulars at the Royal Oak pub in Great Wishford (pop. 300) took him as one of their own for the weekly "quiz night"! When I was ready to head for home, I was in Gatwick Airport when I learned that two days before, my wife Pam had been rushed to the Emergency Room. Because of the chemotherapy and medicines she had been taking, her immune system was almost non-existent and she was in critical condition with a mysterious lung infection. Her blood pressure had plunged to 49, and she was having a difficulty breathing. Believing she was dying, our children had been frantically trying to find the Travelodge I was staying in before flying home. Shortly before my flight, I called home and learned only that she was in the hospital, but spent nine hours at 40,000 feet worrying because I did not know what was going on. Fortunately, by Wednesday night she had improved enough to come home. From jssprite58 at cox.net Mon Jun 4 10:10:52 2007 From: jssprite58 at cox.net (joe sackal) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 09:10:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Message-ID: <003701c7a6c2$ec7ab740$6197e444@yourxhtr8hvc4p> jssprite58 at cox.net ( Joe) From lewing at sport.rr.com Mon Jun 4 07:35:55 2007 From: lewing at sport.rr.com (Lester Ewing) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 08:35:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] test.. Oh moderator.... Message-ID: Hi there moderator.. I also use the oldsaabguy at comcast.net email addy.. Lester .. yes I realize that this has something to do with the 'big change" but it's a slow day so far.. ;-) From peter at nosimport.com Mon Jun 4 08:04:38 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 09:04:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Houston, we have a problem In-Reply-To: <005001c7a4c9$97a5dd80$15bf0e44@personal> References: <005001c7a4c9$97a5dd80$15bf0e44@personal> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070604090309.03584678@nosimport.com> Jack, Drop sump with engine in situ first to see if perhaps the pickup tube has come loose. That will give you the symptom, it's an easy fix, and I've seen it happen. Peter C ==== At 10:53 PM 6/1/2007, Jack Laird wrote: >Told wife about problem, she say so pull the engine, this is supose to be a >hobby. She is thinking, this will keep him out of trouble for awile longer, >hehe. > >Oil is clean as if it just came from the can. Castrol GTX 20-50. > >Popoff looks fine, seat is good. > >Guage is spot on at 20,40, and 50 pounds. > >Guess it has to be the pump. How the heck do they wear out. What wears? How >long does a raceing engine pump last? Have you guesed by now I wish to learn >about pumps? >Is there a heavy duty one? From pvanwig at charter.net Mon Jun 4 10:02:08 2007 From: pvanwig at charter.net (Paul Van Wig) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 09:02:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone got a dented car to try this on? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001c7a6c1$b52f3fa0$cbf4fea9@paula8e530ae64> Saw a friend do that to a buyeye boot that someone sat on with a torch and a wet towel. Worked great. Paul Van Wig pvanwig at charter.net -----Original Message----- From: owner-spridgets at Autox.Team.Net [mailto:owner-spridgets at Autox.Team.Net] On Behalf Of Brad Fornal Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 8:03 PM To: Spridget; Yahoo Spridget list Subject: Anyone got a dented car to try this on? http://www.filecabi.net/video/dent-can-air.html -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad Your messages not reaching the list? Check out http://www.team.net/posting.html === Help keep Team.Net on the air === http://www.team.net/donate.html === unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo at autox.team.net or try === http://www.team.net/cgi-bin/majorcool === Other lists available at === http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo === Archives at http://www.team.net/archive === http://www.team.net/the-local === Edit your replies! From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jun 4 10:10:27 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 11:10:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone got a dented car to try this on? In-Reply-To: <000001c7a6c1$b52f3fa0$cbf4fea9@paula8e530ae64> References: <000001c7a6c1$b52f3fa0$cbf4fea9@paula8e530ae64> Message-ID: <43840a7e0706040910m27406b4dv15dbe5f0c09352f2@mail.gmail.com> Out here in *BIG* hail country, we have another method for removing most small dents. Wait for a very hot day (100F will do), leave the car in the sun, hold an ice cube on the dent. Pop!! Out it comes. Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City On 6/4/07, Paul Van Wig wrote: > Saw a friend do that to a buyeye boot that someone sat on with a torch and a > wet towel. Worked great. > > Paul Van Wig > pvanwig at charter.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-spridgets at Autox.Team.Net [mailto:owner-spridgets at Autox.Team.Net] > On Behalf Of Brad Fornal > Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 8:03 PM > To: Spridget; Yahoo Spridget list > Subject: Anyone got a dented car to try this on? > > http://www.filecabi.net/video/dent-can-air.html > > -- > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > > Your messages not reaching the list? > Check out http://www.team.net/posting.html > > === Help keep Team.Net on the air > === http://www.team.net/donate.html > > === unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo at autox.team.net or try > === http://www.team.net/cgi-bin/majorcool > === Other lists available at > === http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo > === Archives at http://www.team.net/archive > === http://www.team.net/the-local > === Edit your replies! > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- 1964 R60/2 BMW 1968 MG Midget 1976 R90/6 BMW 1990 K100LT BMW Thomas Huxley - "It is not who is right, but what is right, that is of importance." From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jun 4 10:12:30 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 11:12:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone got a dented car to try this on? References: <000001c7a6c1$b52f3fa0$cbf4fea9@paula8e530ae64> <43840a7e0706040910m27406b4dv15dbe5f0c09352f2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002101c7a6c3$27a07850$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Out here in *BIG* hail country, we have another method for removing > most small dents. Wait for a very hot day (100F will do), leave the > car in the sun, hold an ice cube on the dent. Pop!! Out it comes. The ice giveth and the ice taketh away... blessed be the name of the ice. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jun 4 10:44:32 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 12:44:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] videojug.com Message-ID: <20070604164437.OACU13954.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> This is supposed to be a hot new site with videos on how to do everything. www.videojug.com From wmgilroy at gmail.com Mon Jun 4 10:45:29 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 09:45:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster In-Reply-To: <4663AA6C.3060508@autox.team.net> References: <4663AA6C.3060508@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <441250190706040945l73e1f926y916a6ecc921ad048@mail.gmail.com> Here are my rules for roundabouts which I figured out while driving in the country of England. "Rules for small villages and roundabouts" 1. Every small village will have at least 2 large roundabouts and one small roundabout 2. Each roundabout will have an odd number of roads entering it 3. Roads that are directly across aroundabout may not be the same road. - The probabiliy that is the same road is 1/N where is the number of roads entering the roundabout 4. No road in a roundabout is EVER marked. 5. The small roundabout is really just a Tee intersection with a circle and some arrows painted on the road. As for navigating in the English countryside, that is entirely another set of rules. The only constant is that you can get directions out of a village at the local pub but once you leave you are on your own. Bill "I have been lost while driving through the English countryside" Gilroy; which may not surprise some of the listers. On 6/3/07, Mark J. Bradakis wrote: > Here's one that got snagged in the list shuffle. > > mjb. > > > Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 00:56:08 -0700 > From: b-evans at earthlink.net > Subject: The English odyssey of Frank and Buster From then on, he had a great time on the English roads, > especially going around and around on the roundabouts trying to find the > right route. And, of course, driving on to the next roundabout when we > finally realized we were lost and had to go back the way we were coming. From Daniel1312 at aol.com Mon Jun 4 10:49:34 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 12:49:34 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] half shafts Message-ID: Rev the engine up to 6000rpm (at least) engage 1st gear and dump the clutch. Repeat 10-12 times and if the halfshafts survive they are good ones..... Daniel1312 In a message dated 04/06/07 01:47:02 GMT Daylight Time, a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au writes: > I'd like to know how I can tell if I got me 2 o the good ones in there. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jun 4 10:57:20 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 11:57:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster References: <4663AA6C.3060508@autox.team.net> <441250190706040945l73e1f926y916a6ecc921ad048@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002b01c7a6c9$6b4575a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > As for navigating in the English countryside, that is entirely another set > of rules. The only constant is that you can get directions out of a > village > at the local pub but once you leave you are on your own. Sounds like someone should be making their fortune renting GPS devices at the car rental agencies... From dmg at bossig.com Mon Jun 4 11:08:10 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 10:08:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster In-Reply-To: <002b01c7a6c9$6b4575a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <4663AA6C.3060508@autox.team.net>, <002b01c7a6c9$6b4575a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <4663E48A.2474.D4E917@dmg.bossig.com> In some countries I have been in, it is considered to be impolite to make a stranger unhappy or to give them un-welcome news.. So when you ask "Can I get to XYZ from here? And is it far?" The answer could be "Yes, it's just over the hill!" When in fact you are going the wrong way and can never get there! It's up to the next folks you meet to maybe tell you the truth and make you un-happy... or let you figure it out yourself.. Dave G. From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Jun 4 11:15:26 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 12:15:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster In-Reply-To: <4663E48A.2474.D4E917@dmg.bossig.com> References: <4663AA6C.3060508@autox.team.net>, <002b01c7a6c9$6b4575a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <4663E48A.2474.D4E917@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <003f01c7a6cb$f30436a0$d90ca3e0$@com> Haha... in all my European travel, I could understand the English of the Swiss, French, Swedes, Norwegians, etc. It was only the English speaking English that I had trouble understanding. -----Original Message----- From: Dave G. [mailto:dmg at bossig.com] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 12:08 PM To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster In some countries I have been in, it is considered to be impolite to make a stranger unhappy or to give them un-welcome news.. So when you ask "Can I get to XYZ from here? And is it far?" The answer could be "Yes, it's just over the hill!" When in fact you are going the wrong way and can never get there! It's up to the next folks you meet to maybe tell you the truth and make you un-happy... or let you figure it out yourself.. Dave G. _______________________________________________ wsthompson at thicko.com From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon Jun 4 11:23:34 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 10:23:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster In-Reply-To: <002b01c7a6c9$6b4575a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <4663AA6C.3060508@autox.team.net> <441250190706040945l73e1f926y916a6ecc921ad048@mail.gmail.com> <002b01c7a6c9$6b4575a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <46644A96.90609@earthlink.net> David Lieb wrote: Sounds like someone should be making their fortune renting GPS devicesat the car rental agencies... Oh, you can rent one with the car from most major agencies. Still, some of the roads/streets/lanes/closes are so short (e.g. one block) that they just don't show up. The nature of the road system, with its origins in footpaths and horse or carriage roads, is one of the reasons that road maps are so popular in England. Everyone has an assortment of maps at home, and at least one map book in every car. Besides, if the roads were too easy, it would take all of the fun away! Buster From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon Jun 4 11:28:41 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 10:28:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster In-Reply-To: <003f01c7a6cb$f30436a0$d90ca3e0$@com> References: <4663AA6C.3060508@autox.team.net>, <002b01c7a6c9$6b4575a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <4663E48A.2474.D4E917@dmg.bossig.com> <003f01c7a6cb$f30436a0$d90ca3e0$@com> Message-ID: <46644BC9.7000606@earthlink.net> Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: "It was only the English speaking English that I had trouble understanding." And the nerve of the English! They say WE speak with an accent!!!! As Churchill once wrote, we are "two great peoples separated only by a common language." All seriousness aside, it is so strange to realize that the U.K. is about the same geographical size as California. Yet they have such a myriad of different accents, from Scots to Georgie to Cockney to Welsh, and on and on. Buster From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jun 4 11:32:05 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 10:32:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster In-Reply-To: <46644BC9.7000606@earthlink.net> Message-ID: > strange to realize that the U.K. is > about the same geographical size as California. It's smaller than California. From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Jun 4 11:46:31 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 10:46:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] tires Message-ID: <001901c7a6d0$49cd7b00$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Guys, I was dong a search for tires and found a Craiglist ad from a guy in the LA area that has about 100 new 165/70/13 tires. I e-mailed him and got the following reply: "I have Kumho, Hankook, GT Champiro, The treadware 340 Traction A Temp. B What type of vehicles are you putting them on? Gabriel 714 965-2223" Before I got his reply, I found a pair from an online dealer and met my needs, so I guess he still has about 100 of them. NFI etc. Glen Byrns From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jun 4 11:59:14 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 10:59:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] tires In-Reply-To: <001901c7a6d0$49cd7b00$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: > Craiglist ad from a guy in the LA area > Gabriel 714 965-2223" That's an Orange County area code. Please don't insult us by grouping us in with L.A. From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 4 12:01:06 2007 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 11:01:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Starting Issues Message-ID: <115276.20944.qm@web34213.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Question are solenoids available from the normal parts houses or do I need to go to VB or MOSS for one? Bugsy for the third time gave me the single quiet click scenario yesterday and I needed to push start him at the gas station. Interesting 4 guys saw me start to push him, stopped what they were doing pumping gas and rushed over to help push Bugsy, all without asking or exchanging a single word. A 10' push, popped into first and off I went. I waved thanks and went home. Rolled into garage, turned key, and Bugsy started right out without any hesitation. Now this is the 3rd time this has happened. I'm not getting the solenoid stutter as in not enough juice in the battery just a single click and nothing. Tried restarting 5-6 times same results single quiet click and nothing. I need to get in there and clean everything and check connections. This could be bad switch contacts at key switch, bad solenoid, bad starter( not getting the click, click, click thing like low voltage from battery), battery that is now 6 years old, generator not putting out enough juice to pull down the relay, generator has been doing a little bit of major hi charge whine lately so possibly battery now 6 y.o. might be suspect. Need to dig in and do some testing.. Jim Gruber Bugsy '68 Sprite (future Bugeye in disguise) Cincinnati, OH --------------------------------- Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jun 4 12:05:43 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 11:05:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Starting Issues In-Reply-To: <115276.20944.qm@web34213.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: This place has the solenoids with the push button switch on the bottom. I've always thought all solenoids should have that. http://www.bpnorthwest.com/ From hal at katemuir.com Mon Jun 4 12:57:46 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 11:57:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Starting Issues In-Reply-To: <115276.20944.qm@web34213.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: James, Modern batteries may fail like your symptoms. I had one (in an Integra) that would simply not work when at a certain temperature, battery less than 3 months old. No low battery symptoms, just a weak click from the solenoid. Let it sit for a while and it was fine. Never tried a jump start 'cuz it's automatic. But to my way of thinking a six year old battery would be a likely culprit. Hal -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of James Gruber Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 11:01 AM To: Spridgets Digest Subject: [Spridgets] Starting Issues Question are solenoids available from the normal parts houses or do I need to go to VB or MOSS for one? Bugsy for the third time gave me the single quiet click scenario yesterday and I needed to push start him at the gas station. Interesting 4 guys saw me start to push him, stopped what they were doing pumping gas and rushed over to help push Bugsy, all without asking or exchanging a single word. A 10' push, popped into first and off I went. I waved thanks and went home. Rolled into garage, turned key, and Bugsy started right out without any hesitation. Now this is the 3rd time this has happened. I'm not getting the solenoid stutter as in not enough juice in the battery just a single click and nothing. Tried restarting 5-6 times same results single quiet click and nothing. I need to get in there and clean everything and check connections. This could be bad switch contacts at key switch, bad solenoid, bad starter( not getting the click, click, click thing like low voltage from battery), battery that is now 6 years old, generator not putting out enough juice to pull down the relay, generator has been doing a little bit of major hi charge whine lately so possibly battery now 6 y.o. might be suspect. Need to dig in and do some testing.. Jim Gruber Bugsy '68 Sprite (future Bugeye in disguise) Cincinnati, OH From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Jun 4 13:25:40 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 12:25:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] tires References: Message-ID: <001e01c7a6de$236b3ed0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Sorry Billy, but for anyone not from LA, Orange County IS in the LA area. I was born in Torrance and raised in Gardena, schooled in Riverside, and started my career at UCLA. But once I moved to Northern California, I discovered that folks up here consider anything south of Bakersfield and north of Tijuana as "The LA area". good luck on the tires. I replied to him about what they were for, and got the following reply: "Oh Definitely. I used to own a MG. 79 Midget. Fits em perfectly. I would love for you guys to have them. Thanks" So, the guy selling them was once a member of the brotherhood..... Glen Byrns >> Craiglist ad from a guy in the LA area >> Gabriel 714 965-2223" > That's an Orange County area code. Please don't insult us by grouping us > in > with L.A. From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 4 13:48:16 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 13:48:16 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Starting Issues In-Reply-To: <115276.20944.qm@web34213.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <115276.20944.qm@web34213.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706041248i3e124ca2q4b1f96a7aad8ce2b@mail.gmail.com> Get parts from Peter C @ World Wide, Paul A @ Morriservice, or Ed @ JustBrits. Even if you want something from VB or Mo$$, go thru one of the above. Use the form on Peter's site and reference VB or Mo$$ part numbers. If they can't get it, then try VB or Mo$$. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Jun 4 13:52:58 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 14:52:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Starting Issues In-Reply-To: References: <115276.20944.qm@web34213.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I agree with Billy, get the one with the push button. I have them on all my Spridgets. That will also help to eliminate your ignition as a culprit. If you can start it with the button, and not the key, that lets you know your ignition is at fault. Brad On 6/4/07, Billy Zoom wrote: > This place has the solenoids with the push button switch on the bottom. > I've always thought all solenoids should have that. > http://www.bpnorthwest.com/ > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Jun 4 14:09:50 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 15:09:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster In-Reply-To: <46644BC9.7000606@earthlink.net> References: <4663AA6C.3060508@autox.team.net> <002b01c7a6c9$6b4575a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <4663E48A.2474.D4E917@dmg.bossig.com> <003f01c7a6cb$f30436a0$d90ca3e0$@com> <46644BC9.7000606@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Yeah, but unlike Cali, you DON'T need to speak Spanish.......... On 6/4/07, b-evans at earthlink.net wrote: > Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: "It was only the English speaking English > that I had trouble understanding." > > And the nerve of the English! They say WE speak with an accent!!!! As > Churchill once wrote, we are "two great peoples separated only by a > common language." > > All seriousness aside, it is so strange to realize that the U.K. is > about the same geographical size as California. Yet they have such a > myriad of different accents, from Scots to Georgie to Cockney to Welsh, > and on and on. > > Buster > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jun 4 14:28:19 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 15:28:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster In-Reply-To: <46644A96.90609@earthlink.net> References: <4663AA6C.3060508@autox.team.net> <441250190706040945l73e1f926y916a6ecc921ad048@mail.gmail.com> <002b01c7a6c9$6b4575a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <46644A96.90609@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0706041328y5bbd74e9yfb670a322383cf3d@mail.gmail.com> The best advice I can give anyone is to get an RAC (Royal Automobile Club) membership before you go there and carry your little RAC map book with you. They are excellent. With an RAC map book, you can only get lost if you are an idiot.... Or if you are me.... Cheers!! Jim On 6/4/07, b-evans at earthlink.net wrote: > David Lieb wrote: Sounds like someone should be making their fortune > renting GPS devicesat the car rental agencies... > > Oh, you can rent one with the car from most major agencies. Still, some > of the roads/streets/lanes/closes are so short (e.g. one block) that > they just don't show up. The nature of the road system, with its > origins in footpaths and horse or carriage roads, is one of the reasons > that road maps are so popular in England. Everyone has an assortment of > maps at home, and at least one map book in every car. > > Besides, if the roads were too easy, it would take all of the fun away! > > Buster > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- 1964 R60/2 BMW 1968 MG Midget 1976 R90/6 BMW 1990 K100LT BMW Thomas Huxley - "It is not who is right, but what is right, that is of importance." From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon Jun 4 14:43:48 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 13:43:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46647984.1050700@earthlink.net> >> <>Billy Zoom wrote: "It's (the U.K.) smaller than California." > It depends on what you are looking at. Land's End in Cornwall to John O'Groats in Scotland is well over 800 miles, while to the Shetland Islands is over 1,000 miles. From the Mexican border to the Oregon border is less than 800. In terms of land mass, you are right as California has about twice as much as the U.K., but with only about half the population. Now, who knows why Great Britain is smaller in all respects than the United Kingdom. All of this, of course, goes out the window if Tony Blair's "devolution" follows its logical course, making it "the formerly United Kingdom" and the "once Great Britain". Now, all of you in Blighty are ineligible for this quiz because you BETTER know the answers all ready. If you don't, shame, shame on you!!! Buster From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon Jun 4 14:46:25 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 13:46:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] tires In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46647A21.2050803@earthlink.net> >Billy Zoom wrote: "That's an Orange County area code. Please don't insult us by grouping us in with L.A." > A loud, "Hear, hear!!!!" Buster From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon Jun 4 14:57:52 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 13:57:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster In-Reply-To: References: <4663AA6C.3060508@autox.team.net> <002b01c7a6c9$6b4575a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <4663E48A.2474.D4E917@dmg.bossig.com> <003f01c7a6cb$f30436a0$d90ca3e0$@com> <46644BC9.7000606@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <46647CD0.9020807@earthlink.net> > Brad Fornal wrote: "Yeah, but unlike Cali, you DON'T need to speak > Spanish.......... " Yeah, but you do have to speak Paki, Hindu, and Carib! WASPs and WASCs are rapidly becoming a minority in England. And you can't tell any jokes about them. Niot because it is not PC, but because it is against the law!!!! From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon Jun 4 15:03:18 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 14:03:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0706041328y5bbd74e9yfb670a322383cf3d@mail.gmail.com> References: <4663AA6C.3060508@autox.team.net> <441250190706040945l73e1f926y916a6ecc921ad048@mail.gmail.com> <002b01c7a6c9$6b4575a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <46644A96.90609@earthlink.net> <43840a7e0706041328y5bbd74e9yfb670a322383cf3d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46647E16.60608@earthlink.net> > Jim Johnson wrote: "The best advice I can give anyone is to get an > RAC (Royal Automobile Club) membership before you go there and carry > your little RAC map book with you. They are excellent. With an RAC map > book, you can only get lost if you are an idiot.... Or if you are > me.... Actually, there is no need to get a membership in either the RAC or AA (Automobile Association). If you are an AAA member in the U.S., it has reciprocal privileges with both the RAC and AA. Anyone can buy their map books wherever newspapers are sold. From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Mon Jun 4 15:19:36 2007 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 16:19:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Starting Issues In-Reply-To: <115276.20944.qm@web34213.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <115276.20944.qm@web34213.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0706041419p6b0f8c0dp7968fa7c77befd69@mail.gmail.com> Since you're at least getting a click from the solenoid it's not likely to be your ignition switch. You can always have the battery tested but I'd personally not waste time trying to test a 6 year old battery. Buy a new battery and get back on the road! From wmgilroy at gmail.com Mon Jun 4 15:21:56 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 14:21:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC: Stranger in a strange land, or how to explain pork roll Message-ID: <441250190706041421tc04d992q98603af7808b188c@mail.gmail.com> I was trying to explain pork roll to the locals here in Seattle and I found that it is very hard. They don't have local deli's, breakfast sandwiches or weird pork products. But I found due to the power of the Internet, the wikipedia explained it way better then I could. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pork_roll I will save the Scrapple discussion for another day. Only so much Jersey culture can be dispensed on one day. -g From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Jun 4 15:32:14 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 14:32:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] more on tires Message-ID: <002101c7a6ef$d1df10c0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> I'm sorry guys, I forgot the improtant part....................................he wants $15 each that should interest the we-tight crowd. If I hadn't just cleaned out the side yard by finding a sucker to take all my old bent Morris wheels, I'd but an extra set and throw them where the wheels used to live and save them for 'tomorrow'. "I have Kumho, Hankook, GT Champiro, The treadware 340 Traction A Temp. B What type of vehicles are you putting them on? Gabriel 714 965-2223" From cfchrist at earthlink.net Mon Jun 4 16:04:59 2007 From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (Charles Christ) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 18:04:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster Message-ID: <410-2200761422459914@earthlink.net> umm i'm not certain of the entire european comunity , but in germany if you tell someone they are "number one" using the socially challenged finger or point repetedly to your head using your index finger implying they are "nuts" you get arrested! it's against the law there! here you need to wave a weapon like i had done to me in new york on the QB expressway! guy pointed a 38 at me out the passenger side window of a camry screaming "i'd be doing the world if i killed you , you @#%#@#*&$$%(*&)(*&^*^%$#@^#$@#!@$$%%^^*! i rolled up the window of my van and ditched him at the next off ramp! wanna freak someone with a gun ..out? roll yer window up on their rolling description of their opinion of you! ;) chuck. "same darn sprite for 33 years!" > [Original Message] > From: > To: Brad Fornal > Cc: Spridget List > Date: 6/4/2007 4:59:05 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster > > > Brad Fornal wrote: "Yeah, but unlike Cali, you DON'T need to speak > > Spanish.......... " > > Yeah, but you do have to speak Paki, Hindu, and Carib! WASPs and WASCs > are rapidly becoming a minority in England. And you can't tell any > jokes about them. Niot because it is not PC, but because it is against > the law!!!! From dmg at bossig.com Mon Jun 4 16:58:15 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:58:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC: Stranger in a strange land, or how to explain pork roll In-Reply-To: <441250190706041421tc04d992q98603af7808b188c@mail.gmail.com> References: <441250190706041421tc04d992q98603af7808b188c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46643697.7885.2156A7A@dmg.bossig.com> > They don't have local deli's, breakfast sandwiches > or weird pork products. But they have the best seafood --- check out PIke Street Market! BTW - Don't expect to get Fiddle Heads around here either.... Dave G. From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Mon Jun 4 17:22:48 2007 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 16:22:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster Message-ID: <8f6201c7a6ff$438772d0$2dca010a@mail2world.com> Yeah, I wish I had rented one when I was over there a couple of months ago. Still, mapquest was a useful second... -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: David Lieb [dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com] Sent: 6/4/2007 12:57:20 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster > As for navigating in the English countryside, that is entirely another set > of rules. The only constant is that you can get directions out of a > village > at the local pub but once you leave you are on your own. Sounds like someone should be making their fortune renting GPS devices at the car rental agencies... _______________________________________________ cbking at alum.rpi.edu From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Mon Jun 4 18:32:21 2007 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 10:32:21 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] half shafts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <538614.99119.qm@web50604.mail.re2.yahoo.com> So, can I assume from thisthat the 'good" shafts are much better, and can take a beating...or more specifically, take the odd burnout without failure? Andy Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: Rev the engine up to 6000rpm (at least) engage 1st gear and dump the clutch. Repeat 10-12 times and if the halfshafts survive they are good ones..... Daniel1312 In a message dated 04/06/07 01:47:02 GMT Daylight Time, a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au writes: I'd like to know how I can tell if I got me 2 o the good ones in there. --------------------------------- How would you spend $50,000 to create a more sustainable environment in Australia? Go to Yahoo!7 Answers and share your idea. From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jun 4 18:45:43 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 17:45:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Wow - not really LBC Message-ID: <977834.63982.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> This just in: http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070604/vehicle_quality.html?.v=5 Remember when "Made in Japan" meant crap in the 60s and 70s, and in the 80s Korean cars prompted Road and Track to state that, along with the Yugo, "No one should have to take poverty this seriously"? Next up...China...and there are several billion people and no real regulations....ruh-roh... Ron Soave "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469 From rbc_48183 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 4 19:43:24 2007 From: rbc_48183 at yahoo.com (roger cotting) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 18:43:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye delivered Message-ID: <301711.83647.qm@web36406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> First Customer Car by The Bugeye Boys Rick & I just got back from a two day trip to deliver the first car to a very delighted customer in College Park, MD. It is a 1960 Bugeye, arrest-me-red, with black seats and black interior. It has a 1310 cc motor supplied by the customer, with shallow dish pistons, Kent 266 cam, race prepped rods, polished crank( wedged), all balanced, Kent adjustable sprocket, 1.3 roller rockers, ventilated in three places, with a 2 SU carb and manifold. It is started by a 2 stage starter and has a negative ground alternator. It has a rib case transmission. It is stopped by disc brakes in front and late model rear brakes. The suspension is stock with poly bushings all around with 9/16 sway bar in front. It has a LCB exhaust manifold running through 1-3/4 inch tubing to a Thrush muffler. It does sound NICE! It is the best Sprite The Bugeye Boys can build using 30 years of racing experience ( most of it learned the hard way). It took us about 7 months of work and 2 months of paying some one else to paint it. The car looks really slick because Rick took a lot of time wet sanding and rubbing out an average paint job. This car was a labor of love by Sam, John, Rick and Roger. We dont know when we will do another one, but we have 8 more chassis to pick from. Now we start phase two of the summer! Roger Cotting --------------------------------- Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jun 4 19:58:53 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 21:58:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] tires In-Reply-To: <46647A21.2050803@earthlink.net> References: <46647A21.2050803@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4664C35D.8070003@comcast.net> b-evans at earthlink.net wrote: >>Billy Zoom wrote: "That's an Orange County area code. Please don't insult us by grouping us in with L.A." >> > > A loud, "Hear, hear!!!!" But Orange County is home to LA. You guys ought to move. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jun 4 20:08:11 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 22:08:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] half shafts In-Reply-To: <538614.99119.qm@web50604.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <538614.99119.qm@web50604.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4664C58B.6060007@comcast.net> Andy Webster wrote: > So, can I assume from thisthat the 'good" shafts are much better, and can take a beating...or more specifically, take the odd burnout without failure? The old ones twisted when they failed. the later ones just snap off clean. But they are a whole lot easier to get the stub out when they break clean. Try beating a twisted hunk of axle out of diff. And I have snapped a few on the first burn out. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jun 4 20:14:02 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 22:14:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wow - not really LBC In-Reply-To: <977834.63982.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <977834.63982.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4664C6EA.6090707@comcast.net> Ron Soave wrote: > This just in: > > http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070604/vehicle_quality.html?.v=5 But they still dent themselves. We have an ongoing game around here, see if you can find a Hyundai with OUT a dent. Ask my sister, she says the bird crap is what dented the roof of her Santa Fe. No hail, no trees in her yard or at her work. So how did all the dents get on her roof? And a parking lot ding is a major dent. And who is JD Powers and WTF do they know about cars? Just wondering cause I know they don't "work" on cars. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon Jun 4 20:56:44 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 19:56:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] tires In-Reply-To: <4664C35D.8070003@comcast.net> References: <46647A21.2050803@earthlink.net> <4664C35D.8070003@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4664D0EC.8040905@earthlink.net> > Frank Clarici wrote: "But Orange County is home to LA. You guys > ought to move." Hey, just because the Mexican owner of the baseball team in Anaheim insists on calling them the "Los Angeles Angels" doesn't mean it's true! They ARE still playing in Anaheim Stadium. You see, when the City of Anaheim sued him, he told the court he wanted to call them that so more Mexicans from Los Angeles would come to Anaheim to see the games. Wait a minute, Anaheim is already 60% illegal Mexican! Maybe they should be the Mexican Angels! (mutter, mumble, mutter, mumble...I wanna go back to England) From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jun 4 21:07:38 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 23:07:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] tires In-Reply-To: <4664D0EC.8040905@earthlink.net> References: <46647A21.2050803@earthlink.net> <4664C35D.8070003@comcast.net> <4664D0EC.8040905@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4664D37A.4090704@comcast.net> b-evans at earthlink.net wrote: > Wait a minute, Anaheim is already 60% illegal Mexican! Like I said, you guys should move. Not only is Spanish the prime lingo out there but all the chemicals I own seem to cause cancer in CA. But Buster doesn't live in California, he says he lives in "Southern California" so is that Northen Mexico? I live in South Jersey but I say I am from New Jersey. Only pineys and clam diggers live in South Jersey ;) Sort of like mexicans in So Cal. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jun 4 22:00:49 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 21:00:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Nice tow vehicle Message-ID: <946439.90452.qm@web30515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> My neighbor the race car driver is in town this week. Her dad likes the Sprite, but so far she hasn't offered to co-drive it. Her 2007 paddock rig (new one every year) is parked down the block, pretty much identical to this one. Kinda nice, if palaces on wheels are your thing: Ebay item number: 290122708697 Ron Soave "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain ____________________________________________________________________________________ It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From dwoerpel at wi.net Mon Jun 4 22:19:04 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 23:19:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Nice tow vehicle In-Reply-To: <946439.90452.qm@web30515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <946439.90452.qm@web30515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4664E438.7050505@wi.net> And a heck of a driver she is too! What a Sunday! She sure didn't take any crap from Wheldon. ;-) I loved the fix to her bent steering arm; stomp on it! Ron, I've been gone and may have missed why you had low oil pressure at RA.....just curious. Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS Ron Soave wrote: > My neighbor the race car driver is in town this week. > Her dad likes the Sprite, but so far she hasn't > offered to co-drive it. Her 2007 paddock rig (new one > every year) is parked down the block, pretty much > identical to this one. Kinda nice, if palaces on > wheels are your thing: > > Ebay item number: 290122708697 > > > > Ron Soave > > "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jun 4 22:20:12 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 23:20:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster In-Reply-To: <46647E16.60608@earthlink.net> References: <4663AA6C.3060508@autox.team.net> <441250190706040945l73e1f926y916a6ecc921ad048@mail.gmail.com> <002b01c7a6c9$6b4575a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <46644A96.90609@earthlink.net> <43840a7e0706041328y5bbd74e9yfb670a322383cf3d@mail.gmail.com> <46647E16.60608@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0706042120g16986627qb8dfa3d53dcf3305@mail.gmail.com> Yeahbut..... With the RAC you can get that really neat looking grill badge for your car with the crown on it!! Cheers!! Jim On 6/4/07, b-evans at earthlink.net wrote: > > > Jim Johnson wrote: "The best advice I can give anyone is to get an > > RAC (Royal Automobile Club) membership before you go there and carry > > your little RAC map book with you. They are excellent. With an RAC map > > book, you can only get lost if you are an idiot.... Or if you are > > me.... > > Actually, there is no need to get a membership in either the RAC or AA > (Automobile Association). If you are an AAA member in the U.S., it has > reciprocal privileges with both the RAC and AA. Anyone can buy their > map books wherever newspapers are sold. > -- 1964 R60/2 BMW 1968 MG Midget 1976 R90/6 BMW 1990 K100LT BMW Thomas Huxley - "It is not who is right, but what is right, that is of importance." From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jun 4 22:39:09 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 21:39:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Nice tow vehicle In-Reply-To: <4664E438.7050505@wi.net> Message-ID: <859748.15769.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- David Woerpel wrote: > Ron, I've been gone and may have missed why you had > low oil pressure at > RA.....just curious. Just came back from midnight run to Madison to drop off parts. No root cause yet. Effect was a bludgeoning of #4, a page out of the Zoom Handbook. Suspicion from several is oil pump. Could be improper bearing clearance, but I do the mic thing upon assembly and am pretty confident all clearances were fine. The fact that Flounder and I both toasted King Tri-metal rod bearings is a heckuva coincidence. I also blame the driver's enjoyment of the new cam, removing any limit on the top end of the motor, and boy was it fun for the first 104 race miles. Anyway, crank is now .010 under on rods, std on mains. No other work needed (lots of hot tanking). Should be good to go for Blackhawk. Ron Soave "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Mon Jun 4 22:58:42 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 21:58:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Nice tow vehicle References: <946439.90452.qm@web30515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <006801c7a72e$323de5c0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> So, you gonna bid on it? Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 9:00 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Nice tow vehicle > My neighbor the race car driver is in town this week. > Her dad likes the Sprite, but so far she hasn't > offered to co-drive it. Her 2007 paddock rig (new one > every year) is parked down the block, pretty much > identical to this one. Kinda nice, if palaces on > wheels are your thing: > > Ebay item number: 290122708697 > > > > Ron Soave > > "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain From dwoerpel at wi.net Mon Jun 4 23:02:13 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 00:02:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Nice tow vehicle In-Reply-To: <859748.15769.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <859748.15769.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4664EE55.40804@wi.net> Glad things are working out. The bearings do seem to be suspect. BTW, I'd be happy to take your NEW motorhome to the Ozarks! Dave > Just came back from midnight run to Madison to drop > off parts. > > No root cause yet. Effect was a bludgeoning of #4, a > page out of the Zoom Handbook. Suspicion from several > is oil pump. Could be improper bearing clearance, but > I do the mic thing upon assembly and am pretty > confident all clearances were fine. The fact that > Flounder and I both toasted King Tri-metal rod > bearings is a heckuva coincidence. I also blame the > driver's enjoyment of the new cam, removing any limit > on the top end of the motor, and boy was it fun for > the first 104 race miles. > > Anyway, crank is now .010 under on rods, std on mains. > No other work needed (lots of hot tanking). Should be > good to go for Blackhawk. > > Ron Soave > > "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. > http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php From dwramsey at worldnet.att.net Mon Jun 4 23:18:45 2007 From: dwramsey at worldnet.att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 22:18:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] tires In-Reply-To: <001e01c7a6de$236b3ed0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <20070605051655.4A6FC187B5B@autox.team.net> Actually the line is around Fresno and south is all dizzyland, north is the land of fruits and nuts. I was born in the Glendale Sanatorium and remember when you could actually see orange trees in Orange County if you took a drive down in the country. Crash Sorry Billy, but for anyone not from LA, Orange County IS in the LA area. I was born in Torrance and raised in Gardena, schooled in Riverside, and started my career at UCLA. But once I moved to Northern California, I discovered that folks up here consider anything south of Bakersfield and north of Tijuana as "The LA area". From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon Jun 4 23:37:25 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 22:37:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] tires In-Reply-To: <20070605051655.4A6FC187B5B@autox.team.net> References: <20070605051655.4A6FC187B5B@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <4664F695.1060008@earthlink.net> >David Ramsey wrote: "I...remember when you could actually see orange trees in Orange County.... > > Holy cow, that was back in the Mesozoic Era!!! From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Tue Jun 5 00:01:57 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 23:01:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 5 Speed Clutch Problem Message-ID: A while ago I put Paul's conversion in my Bugeye with a rather expensive 1275 build. I was hoping for a really fun car to drive, but no. There has been this clutch problem I am just getting around to trying to fix. I actually took 3 days off work to do it. The problem is the master cylinder pushrod goes in almost all the way with no back pressure until the pedal is almost to the floor, then it gets real hard for the last couple of inches. You can only change gears when you push it right down to the floor, just barely. I kept the 948 slave cylinder and attached it to the Datsun 5 speed trans. There is only a very slight movement at the slave cylinder (how much movement should there be?) Gerard and I worked on this problem for a while and he even put an extension on the bleeder. I can bleed it from up top. we were sure that we got the air out of it. I pulled the master cylinder today and have it on the bench to inspect for problems. It was brass sleeved by White Post in 2000 and the bores still look very smooth. The rubber looks O.K. too. I'm going to replace it anyway as it is already apart. The kit says "Made in England" "NS" "UDB" on the cups that go on the pushrod and "Made in England" "OCJ" on the cup that gets pushed down the bore. Not Lockheed. Any one have any ideas what could be wrong. I'm hoping the slave is not the problem. Very difficult to get out without pulling the engine and trans. This master and slave combo worked fine with the original 948 and smoothcase trans I pulled out. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite From cfchrist at earthlink.net Tue Jun 5 04:31:14 2007 From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (Charles Christ) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 06:31:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Nice tow vehicle Message-ID: <410-22007625103114429@earthlink.net> co-drive it? LOL! as a matter of fact ROFLMAO! i was sitting on the grid in my saab at sebring back in march and one of the 12 hour drivers came over and was asking about the old saab. during the conversation he remarked "he'd never drive one of these vintage cars as they are unsafe in his opinion"! i laughed and replied my car did not go fast enough to be "unsafe"! LOL! i saw him spectating behind the team rig on airport straight on evry lap! i was told it must take some kind of nerve to drive these old cars! i had no idea how the vintage cars were viewed by the modern racers. you should have seen his eyes when i told him i had an 800lb (wet) h-modified 1967 sports racer i drive ocasionally! it was a look of horror! so ron possibly your neighbor is somewhat intimidated by your car..... ;) chuck. > [Original Message] > From: Ron Soave > To: Spridgets > Date: 6/5/2007 12:01:00 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] Nice tow vehicle > > My neighbor the race car driver is in town this week. > Her dad likes the Sprite, but so far she hasn't > offered to co-drive it. Her 2007 paddock rig (new one > every year) is parked down the block, pretty much > identical to this one. Kinda nice, if palaces on > wheels are your thing: > > Ebay item number: 290122708697 > > > > Ron Soave From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jun 5 05:33:08 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 06:33:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Nice tow vehicle References: <410-22007625103114429@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <026601c7a765$4a8ae2e0$0401a8c0@midget> > so ron possibly your neighbor is somewhat intimidated by > your car..... ;) Or perhaps she has lost the touch for lesser cars. Way back when, Tom Sneva was hot property, having won Indy and all. I went to the Rosemont Horizon (Or the All-State Arena as they call it now) to watch the Midget (USAC, not MG) races. Yes, inside the arena; they took up the flooring all the way down to the bare concrete, sprayed Coke syrup on it and went racing on a 1/10 mile oval. Anyway, the promoter paid big bucks to bring in Tom Sneva. Those of us who did not much care for the guy were highly amused warching him zigzag around the oval. He never did get the hang of driving those twitchy things. Having resoundingly lost the heat races, he still got into the feature race on a "promoter's option" (of course) and proceeded to take out several better drivers by his ineptitude. I guess that by the time you have become a highly trained Indy car driving machine, you are all ready to embarrass the heck out of yourself on anything else. YMMV From jlaird237 at cox.net Tue Jun 5 05:34:34 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 06:34:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Nice tow vehicle References: <946439.90452.qm@web30515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000801c7a765$7dff7e60$15bf0e44@personal> Lots and lots of stuff like that at the race tracks all over the country. Mostly folks with familys whos kids are driveing. I have noted the larger the rigs the nicer the folks for some reason. Only talking about stock car tracks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 11:00 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Nice tow vehicle > My neighbor the race car driver is in town this week. > Her dad likes the Sprite, but so far she hasn't > offered to co-drive it. Her 2007 paddock rig (new one > every year) is parked down the block, pretty much > identical to this one. Kinda nice, if palaces on > wheels are your thing: > > Ebay item number: 290122708697 > > > > Ron Soave > > "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > It's here! Your new message! > Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.7/830 - Release Date: 6/3/2007 > 12:47 PM From jlaird237 at cox.net Tue Jun 5 05:37:37 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 06:37:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 5 Speed Clutch Problem References: Message-ID: <002601c7a765$ea997710$15bf0e44@personal> Put an extended rod in the slave cylinder. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 1:01 AM Subject: [Spridgets] 5 Speed Clutch Problem >A while ago I put Paul's conversion in my Bugeye with a rather expensive > 1275 build. I was hoping for a really fun car to drive, but no. There > has been this clutch problem I am just getting around to trying to fix. I > actually took 3 days off work to do it. The problem is the master > cylinder pushrod goes in almost all the way with no back pressure until > the pedal is almost to the floor, then it gets real hard for the last > couple of inches. You can only change gears when you push it right down > to the floor, just barely. I kept the 948 slave cylinder and attached it > to the Datsun 5 speed trans. There is only a very slight movement at the > slave cylinder (how much movement should there be?) Gerard and I worked > on this problem for a while and he even put an extension on the bleeder. > I can bleed it from up top. we were sure that we got the air out of it. > I pulled the master cylinder today and have it on the bench to inspect for > problems. It was brass sleeved by White Post in 2000 and the bores still > look very smooth. The rubber looks O.K. too. I'm going to replace it > anyway as it is already apart. The kit says "Made in England" "NS" "UDB" > on the cups that go on the pushrod and "Made in England" "OCJ" on the cup > that gets pushed down the bore. Not Lockheed. Any one have any ideas > what could be wrong. I'm hoping the slave is not the problem. Very > difficult to get out without pulling the engine and trans. This master > and slave combo worked fine with the original 948 and smoothcase trans I > pulled out. > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.7/830 - Release Date: 6/3/2007 > 12:47 PM From thcollin at mtu.edu Tue Jun 5 05:56:48 2007 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 07:56:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] half shafts In-Reply-To: <4664C58B.6060007@comcast.net> References: <538614.99119.qm@web50604.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4664C58B.6060007@comcast.net> Message-ID: <60313l$3cis2@email.mtu.edu> The failure mechanism is by twisting or torsion (not tension or compression or fatigue). When a break is helical you have a brittle material. When the break is a "clean" break (like as if it had been cut with a hacksaw) you have a ductile material. "Regular" steel will twist around about 5 times before breaking with the clean break. Cast iron will twist a few degrees (5 degrees or less???) before breaking with the helical break. You can replicate the brittle break by twisting a piece of chalk in your hands. The break will be helical. (Do they still use chalk in school or is everything PowerPoint?) It sounds like the problem with the axles may be in the quality control related to the hardening of the axles - some are brittle, some are ductile, some are just right! At 10:08 PM 6/4/2007, Frank Clarici wrote: >Andy Webster wrote: > > > So, can I assume from thisthat the 'good" shafts are much better, > and can take a beating...or more specifically, take the odd burnout > without failure? > >The old ones twisted when they failed. the later ones just snap off >clean. But they are a whole lot easier to get the stub out when they >break clean. Try beating a twisted hunk of axle out of diff. >And I have snapped a few on the first burn out. >-- >Frank Clarici >Toms River, NJ Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From trevorwj at insightbb.com Tue Jun 5 05:58:29 2007 From: trevorwj at insightbb.com (trevorwj at insightbb.com) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 07:58:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 5 Speed Clutch Problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What type of line do you have between the master and slave? Maybe it has a soft spot? If you switch to a smaller diameter slave, then you will get more slave pushrod travel, but it will require more pedal effort. Trevor ----- Original Message ----- From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com Date: Tuesday, June 5, 2007 2:02 Subject: [Spridgets] 5 Speed Clutch Problem To: spridgets at autox.team.net > A while ago I put Paul's conversion in my Bugeye with a rather > expensive1275 build. I was hoping for a really fun car to > drive, but no. There > has been this clutch problem I am just getting around to trying > to fix. I > actually took 3 days off work to do it. The problem is the > mastercylinder pushrod goes in almost all the way with no > back pressure until > the pedal is almost to the floor, then it gets real hard for the last > couple of inches. You can only change gears when you push > it right down > to the floor, just barely. I kept the 948 slave cylinder > and attached it > to the Datsun 5 speed trans. There is only a very slight > movement at the > slave cylinder (how much movement should there be?) Gerard > and I worked > on this problem for a while and he even put an extension on the > bleeder. > I can bleed it from up top. we were sure that we got the > air out of it. > I pulled the master cylinder today and have it on the bench to > inspect for > problems. It was brass sleeved by White Post in 2000 and > the bores still > look very smooth. The rubber looks O.K. too. I'm > going to replace it > anyway as it is already apart. The kit says "Made in > England" "NS" "UDB" > on the cups that go on the pushrod and "Made in England" "OCJ" > on the cup > that gets pushed down the bore. Not Lockheed. Any > one have any ideas > what could be wrong. I'm hoping the slave is not the > problem. Very > difficult to get out without pulling the engine and trans. > This master > and slave combo worked fine with the original 948 and smoothcase > trans I > pulled out. > Mike MacLean From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jun 5 06:01:57 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 05:01:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Nice tow vehicle In-Reply-To: <006801c7a72e$323de5c0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <20070605120157.66656.qmail@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Paul Asgeirsson wrote: > So, you gonna bid on it? Nah. I don't really need 2 of them. Ron Soave "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain ____________________________________________________________________________________ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Jun 5 07:43:44 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 08:43:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] half shafts In-Reply-To: <60313l$3cis2@email.mtu.edu> References: <538614.99119.qm@web50604.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4664C58B.6060007@comcast.net> <60313l$3cis2@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: I don't think so. When a student is being punished now, they don't stay after school to bang the erasers, they have to bang the ......... um, nevermind. On 6/5/07, Timothy H. Collins wrote: > (Do they still use chalk in school or is everything PowerPoint?) From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Tue Jun 5 09:46:42 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 08:46:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 5 Speed Clutch Problem In-Reply-To: <002601c7a765$ea997710$15bf0e44@personal> References: <002601c7a765$ea997710$15bf0e44@personal> Message-ID: <20130a56514a502f8a47394a.20070605084642.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Jack, Part of Paul's kit is an adjustable pushrod for the slave cylinder. It is adjusted out pretty far right now which makes it longer than the original rod already. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Jack Laird > Put an extended rod in the slave cylinder. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 1:01 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] 5 Speed Clutch Problem > > >>A while ago I put Paul's conversion in my Bugeye with a rather expensive >> 1275 build. I was hoping for a really fun car to drive, but no. There >> has been this clutch problem I am just getting around to trying to fix. >> I >> actually took 3 days off work to do it. The problem is the master >> cylinder pushrod goes in almost all the way with no back pressure until >> the pedal is almost to the floor, then it gets real hard for the last >> couple of inches. You can only change gears when you push it right down >> to the floor, just barely. I kept the 948 slave cylinder and attached >> it >> to the Datsun 5 speed trans. There is only a very slight movement at >> the >> slave cylinder (how much movement should there be?) Gerard and I worked >> on this problem for a while and he even put an extension on the bleeder. >> I can bleed it from up top. we were sure that we got the air out of it. >> I pulled the master cylinder today and have it on the bench to inspect >> for >> problems. It was brass sleeved by White Post in 2000 and the bores >> still >> look very smooth. The rubber looks O.K. too. I'm going to replace it >> anyway as it is already apart. The kit says "Made in England" "NS" >> "UDB" >> on the cups that go on the pushrod and "Made in England" "OCJ" on the >> cup >> that gets pushed down the bore. Not Lockheed. Any one have any ideas >> what could be wrong. I'm hoping the slave is not the problem. Very >> difficult to get out without pulling the engine and trans. This master >> and slave combo worked fine with the original 948 and smoothcase trans I >> pulled out. >> Mike MacLean >> 60 Sprite >> _______________________________________________ >> jlaird237 at cox.net >> >> Edit your replies >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.7/830 - Release Date: 6/3/2007 >> 12:47 PM From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Tue Jun 5 09:47:04 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 08:47:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 5 Speed Clutch Problem Message-ID: <31f0a8664a7cd8a6ee4a.20070605084704.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Jack, Part of Paul's kit is an adjustable pushrod for the slave cylinder. It is adjusted out pretty far right now which makes it longer than the original rod already. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Jack Laird > Put an extended rod in the slave cylinder. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 1:01 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] 5 Speed Clutch Problem > > >>A while ago I put Paul's conversion in my Bugeye with a rather expensive >> 1275 build. I was hoping for a really fun car to drive, but no. There >> has been this clutch problem I am just getting around to trying to fix. >> I >> actually took 3 days off work to do it. The problem is the master >> cylinder pushrod goes in almost all the way with no back pressure until >> the pedal is almost to the floor, then it gets real hard for the last >> couple of inches. You can only change gears when you push it right down >> to the floor, just barely. I kept the 948 slave cylinder and attached >> it >> to the Datsun 5 speed trans. There is only a very slight movement at >> the >> slave cylinder (how much movement should there be?) Gerard and I worked >> on this problem for a while and he even put an extension on the bleeder. >> I can bleed it from up top. we were sure that we got the air out of it. >> I pulled the master cylinder today and have it on the bench to inspect >> for >> problems. It was brass sleeved by White Post in 2000 and the bores >> still >> look very smooth. The rubber looks O.K. too. I'm going to replace it >> anyway as it is already apart. The kit says "Made in England" "NS" >> "UDB" >> on the cups that go on the pushrod and "Made in England" "OCJ" on the >> cup >> that gets pushed down the bore. Not Lockheed. Any one have any ideas >> what could be wrong. I'm hoping the slave is not the problem. Very >> difficult to get out without pulling the engine and trans. This master >> and slave combo worked fine with the original 948 and smoothcase trans I >> pulled out. >> Mike MacLean >> 60 Sprite >> _______________________________________________ >> jlaird237 at cox.net From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Jun 5 09:51:40 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 08:51:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Nice tow vehicle In-Reply-To: <410-22007625103114429@earthlink.net> References: <410-22007625103114429@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4665868C.6040405@earthlink.net> >Charles Christ wrote: ..."during the conversation he remarked "he'd never drive one of these vintage cars as they are unsafe in his opinion"! > Hmmmm. I guess these children would not like the homemade roll bars and "fire retardent" flying suits soaked in baking soda, either. I guess those days of guts, glory, and stupidity are gone forever! From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Tue Jun 5 09:54:14 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 08:54:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 5 Speed Clutch Problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Trevor, I have a brand new flexible line with woven stainless steel on the outside made up by Paul. I doubt there is a soft spot in it. The bugeye slave cylinder IS smaller than the 1275 slave cylinder already. I think the key thing is the long travel of the pushrod into the master cylinder with no movement at the slave. It does not look like there is any pressure building up in the system until the clutch pedal is almost all the way to the floor. I rebuilt the master last night and am waiting on a couple of gaskets for the master front cover and lid to put it back in. We'll see what happens from there. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 trevorwj at insightbb.com > What type of line do you have between the master and slave? Maybe it has > a soft spot? > If you switch to a smaller diameter slave, then you will get more slave > pushrod travel, but it will require more pedal effort. > Trevor > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com > Date: Tuesday, June 5, 2007 2:02 > Subject: [Spridgets] 5 Speed Clutch Problem > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > >> A while ago I put Paul's conversion in my Bugeye with a rather >> expensive1275 build. I was hoping for a really fun car to >> drive, but no. There >> has been this clutch problem I am just getting around to trying >> to fix. I >> actually took 3 days off work to do it. The problem is the >> mastercylinder pushrod goes in almost all the way with no >> back pressure until >> the pedal is almost to the floor, then it gets real hard for the last >> couple of inches. You can only change gears when you push >> it right down >> to the floor, just barely. I kept the 948 slave cylinder >> and attached it >> to the Datsun 5 speed trans. There is only a very slight >> movement at the >> slave cylinder (how much movement should there be?) Gerard >> and I worked >> on this problem for a while and he even put an extension on the >> bleeder. >> I can bleed it from up top. we were sure that we got the >> air out of it. >> I pulled the master cylinder today and have it on the bench to >> inspect for >> problems. It was brass sleeved by White Post in 2000 and >> the bores still >> look very smooth. The rubber looks O.K. too. I'm >> going to replace it >> anyway as it is already apart. The kit says "Made in >> England" "NS" "UDB" >> on the cups that go on the pushrod and "Made in England" "OCJ" >> on the cup >> that gets pushed down the bore. Not Lockheed. Any >> one have any ideas >> what could be wrong. I'm hoping the slave is not the >> problem. Very >> difficult to get out without pulling the engine and trans. >> This master >> and slave combo worked fine with the original 948 and smoothcase >> trans I >> pulled out. >> Mike MacLean From heard at datatrontech.net Tue Jun 5 09:56:29 2007 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 11:56:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wow - not really LBC In-Reply-To: <4664C6EA.6090707@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200706051558.l55Fw9V6004361@ms-smtp-02.tampabay.rr.com> Speaking of foreign built quality....did you see where the Chinese sent up a space ship. How would you like to be strapped in that POS? Heard Saxon DeBary, FL -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 10:14 PM To: Ron Soave Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wow - not really LBC Ron Soave wrote: > This just in: > > http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070604/vehicle_quality.html?.v=5 But they still dent themselves. We have an ongoing game around here, see if you can find a Hyundai with OUT a dent. Ask my sister, she says the bird crap is what dented the roof of her Santa Fe. No hail, no trees in her yard or at her work. So how did all the dents get on her roof? And a parking lot ding is a major dent. And who is JD Powers and WTF do they know about cars? Just wondering cause I know they don't "work" on cars. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ _______________________________________________ From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Jun 5 10:17:38 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 09:17:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wow - not really LBC In-Reply-To: <200706051558.l55Fw9V6004361@ms-smtp-02.tampabay.rr.com> References: <200706051558.l55Fw9V6004361@ms-smtp-02.tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <46658CA2.8010501@earthlink.net> >Heard wrote: "....did you see where the Chinese sent up a space ship. How would you like to be strapped in that POS? > If you are sitting in a gulag for the rest of your life making Spridget parts, the space option of space would be attractive. From mark at bradakis.com Tue Jun 5 10:32:46 2007 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J. Bradakis) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 10:32:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] test.. Oh moderator.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4665902E.1010907@bradakis.com> > I also use the oldsaabguy at comcast.net email addy.. One of the features of the mailman list software is the 'nomail' option. Useful for turning off email when you are going on vacation or such, and don't want to unsubscribe. It also allows folks that use more than one address to subscribe them all, so that their messages are not bounced as non-member submissions. Setting nomail for the extra adresses keeps you from getting multiple copies of each message. mjb. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jun 5 10:39:50 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 12:39:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] sleeping accommodations Message-ID: <20070605163950.GMXR9197.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> I'm not quite sure how you get up there! :) http://tinyurl.com/38hdzn From JNBrashear at garverengineers.com Tue Jun 5 10:48:11 2007 From: JNBrashear at garverengineers.com (Brashear, Jack, N) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 11:48:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC: Stranger in a strange land, or how to explain pork roll In-Reply-To: <46643697.7885.2156A7A@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603295366@glitas07.garverinc.local> Ain't it so... I had a near miss with an airborne "medium coho" salmon in the Pike Street market a few years ago while visiting Seattle. That sucker was a perfect spiral pass by a guy with the skill of John Elway when it comes to aerial fish transfer... came so close it could smell 'er when she flew past my right ear. Jack -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave G. Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 5:58 PM To: Bill Gilroy; Spridget Mailing List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC: Stranger in a strange land, or how to explain pork roll > They don't have local deli's, breakfast sandwiches > or weird pork products. But they have the best seafood --- check out PIke Street Market! BTW - Don't expect to get Fiddle Heads around here either.... Dave G. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Jun 5 10:51:47 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 09:51:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] tires In-Reply-To: <4664F695.1060008@earthlink.net> Message-ID: > when you could actually see orange trees in Orange County.... I can see a couple of them right now. BZ From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Jun 5 10:54:31 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 09:54:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Confusing MM Calendar Message-ID: <46659547.1090108@earthlink.net> I just received an e-mail from Mess Motors with a calendar of events for 2007. Confusingly, there was a "Club Event Announcements" with a listing for " Sprite 50th Anniversarry ". Unfortunately, as you scan the topic headings, none make it clear to WHICH event it is referring! There are, after all, a myriad of events throughout half of the world. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jun 5 11:04:39 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 12:04:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] sleeping accommodations References: <20070605163950.GMXR9197.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <007301c7a793$9add3d50$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Subject: [Spridgets] sleeping accommodations > I'm not quite sure how you get up there! :) > > http://tinyurl.com/38hdzn They come with a ladder. These were quite popular in Portugal at one time. A company here in the Chicago area tried to make a go of it selling them here, but couldn't get a market. They then had the idea of mounting them on a small fiberglas trailer and marketing them to the motorcycle crowd as popup campers. Now they sell quite well and work great. Trish and I have a Trailmaster Aspen Classic http://www.trailmasterinc.com/aspclassic/aspclassic.html that pulls nicely behind the Miata, contains a queen-sized mattress and plenty of cargo space. People really stare when they see how big the thing is when open and how much stuff you pulled out of it. David Lieb From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Jun 5 11:04:40 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 10:04:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] tires In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <466597A8.8060605@earthlink.net> Billy.... >>when you could actually see orange trees in Orange County.... >> >I can see a couple of them right now. > I believe you are required by law to report them immediately to the "Formerly Orange" County contractors association so they can get them uprooted and foundations laid for a new sub-division by noon of the day sighted. Silas P. Gumbody Coordinator of Concrete/Glass/Asphalt Blighted County From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Tue Jun 5 11:10:51 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 12:10:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] sleeping accommodations In-Reply-To: <007301c7a793$9add3d50$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <20070605163950.GMXR9197.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <007301c7a793$9add3d50$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0706051010p15593adalefe524c5c36c7b1f@mail.gmail.com> Is that why the people are staring at you Dave? On 6/5/07, David Lieb wrote: > Subject: [Spridgets] sleeping accommodations > > > > I'm not quite sure how you get up there! :) > > > > http://tinyurl.com/38hdzn > > They come with a ladder. These were quite popular in Portugal at > one time. A company here in the Chicago area tried to make a go > of it selling them here, but couldn't get a market. They then had the > idea of mounting them on a small fiberglas trailer and marketing them > to the motorcycle crowd as popup campers. Now they sell quite > well and work great. Trish and I have a Trailmaster Aspen Classic > http://www.trailmasterinc.com/aspclassic/aspclassic.html > that pulls nicely behind the Miata, contains a queen-sized mattress > and plenty of cargo space. People really stare when they see how > big the thing is when open and how much stuff you pulled out of it. > David Lieb -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 "And what are we doing drinking Cow's milk anyway A cow's not our mother. And did you notice people are starting to look more and more like Cow's every year." - Ron Bennington From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jun 5 11:24:36 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 12:24:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] sleeping accommodations References: <20070605163950.GMXR9197.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca><007301c7a793$9add3d50$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <8a336b9d0706051010p15593adalefe524c5c36c7b1f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <007f01c7a796$64207450$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] sleeping accommodations > Is that why the people are staring at you Dave? I never said they were staring at me, Flash. That never happens. From Daniel1312 at aol.com Tue Jun 5 11:30:03 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 13:30:03 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] half shafts Message-ID: It was my attempt to be funny. I think the big deal with half shafts is you make sure a s/h l/h shaft goes in the l/h side of your spridget and likewise r/h to r/h. I do think all half shafts will suffer a fatigue failure one day and on that basis is a lower quality low mileage shaft used in a 948 for grocery shopping better than a high mileage shaft used in a 1275 that's seen some autocross and traffic lights grand prix? And, when you buy a secondhand one can you tell? Regards Daniel In a message dated 05/06/07 03:43:34 GMT Daylight Time, a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au writes: > So, can I assume from thisthat the 'good" shafts are much better, and can > take a beating...or more specifically, take the odd burnout without failure? > Andy From jlaird237 at cox.net Tue Jun 5 12:47:16 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 13:47:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 5 Speed Clutch Problem References: <002601c7a765$ea997710$15bf0e44@personal> <20130a56514a502f8a47394a.20070605084642.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <001001c7a7a1$f0909950$15bf0e44@personal> Sorry, did not know. Adjust it out further and see if that helps a bit. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Jack Laird" Cc: ; Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 5 Speed Clutch Problem > Jack, > Part of Paul's kit is an adjustable pushrod for the slave cylinder. > It is adjusted out pretty far right now which makes it longer than > the original rod already. > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > > > Jack Laird >> Put an extended rod in the slave cylinder. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 1:01 AM >> Subject: [Spridgets] 5 Speed Clutch Problem >> >> >>>A while ago I put Paul's conversion in my Bugeye with a rather expensive >>> 1275 build. I was hoping for a really fun car to drive, but no. There >>> has been this clutch problem I am just getting around to trying to fix. >>> I >>> actually took 3 days off work to do it. The problem is the master >>> cylinder pushrod goes in almost all the way with no back pressure until >>> the pedal is almost to the floor, then it gets real hard for the last >>> couple of inches. You can only change gears when you push it right down >>> to the floor, just barely. I kept the 948 slave cylinder and attached >>> it >>> to the Datsun 5 speed trans. There is only a very slight movement at >>> the >>> slave cylinder (how much movement should there be?) Gerard and I worked >>> on this problem for a while and he even put an extension on the bleeder. >>> I can bleed it from up top. we were sure that we got the air out of it. >>> I pulled the master cylinder today and have it on the bench to inspect >>> for >>> problems. It was brass sleeved by White Post in 2000 and the bores >>> still >>> look very smooth. The rubber looks O.K. too. I'm going to replace it >>> anyway as it is already apart. The kit says "Made in England" "NS" >>> "UDB" >>> on the cups that go on the pushrod and "Made in England" "OCJ" on the >>> cup >>> that gets pushed down the bore. Not Lockheed. Any one have any ideas >>> what could be wrong. I'm hoping the slave is not the problem. Very >>> difficult to get out without pulling the engine and trans. This master >>> and slave combo worked fine with the original 948 and smoothcase trans I >>> pulled out. >>> Mike MacLean >>> 60 Sprite >>> _______________________________________________ >>> jlaird237 at cox.net >>> >>> Edit your replies >>> >>> http://www.team.net/archive >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.7/830 - Release Date: 6/3/2007 >>> 12:47 PM >>> >>> >> >> > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/832 - Release Date: 6/4/2007 > 6:43 PM From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net Tue Jun 5 14:01:16 2007 From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (Richard Feibusch) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 12:01:16 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] 1948 Lowlight Tourer & Travellers for sale.in Vancouver Message-ID: Forward from Jim Cave - contact him at bottom of page - I know nothing and live in LA - Looks like a pretty good deal - Rick Feibusch Folks, I am getting out of the Morris Minor game. If you happen to know of anyone interested in the low-light tourer, it is going to be for sale $10,000 or a very near offer. I also have 2 Minor Traveller projects that are going to have to go. The one was running when it went into the shop (3 years ago) and the other is just a rolling chassis (no motor or transmission). Both are apart. Have 2 sets of new wood, 2 sets of new channel for the rear side windows, 2 sets of rechromed bumpers and front bumperettes etc which I have about $5500 invested in. I would like to recover that money and I'll throw the travellers in free along with some extra fenders, doors etc that I have accumulated. Contact , From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Tue Jun 5 13:15:16 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 12:15:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 5-sp clutch problem Message-ID: <000f01c7a7a5$da614a40$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> If the master cylinder piston does not return all the way home to rest position, the little hole that lets more fluid in ahead of the piston will not be uncovered and the system will try to push the same inadequate little charge of fluid back and forth. Be sure that piston returns ALL THE WAY to the front of the master cylinder after each stroke. Double important for the brakes. Glen Byrns From JNBrashear at garverengineers.com Tue Jun 5 13:16:09 2007 From: JNBrashear at garverengineers.com (Brashear, Jack, N) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 14:16:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 5 Speed Clutch Problem In-Reply-To: <001001c7a7a1$f0909950$15bf0e44@personal> Message-ID: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603295404@glitas07.garverinc.local> Hey, I'm late to this thread but here's what works for me if anyone's interested. I used a big Healey slave. Yes, I did have to slot its little mounting feet to make it fit properly. I took a 3/8" grade 5 all thread rod and cut it about 4" long and ground one end of it round-ish to mesh with the slave piston. I cut a screw driver size slot across the other end. I took a 3/8" grade 5 "long" nut and rounded one end to mesh with the indention in the end of the Datsun release lever. I backed up the nut with a 3/8" jam nut. This custom push rod seats against the slave piston and protrudes thru the hole in the end of the release lever. Oh yeah, I had to enlarge the hole in the dust boot too. I pushed the piston into the bore all the way and held it there (with help from others) while I bled the hydraulics. I then adjusted the rounded nut by holding the rod with a screw driver to about 1/8" play before contact with the release lever and locked it with the jam nut. Yes, these is (barely) enough room to do this using two 9/16" wrenches. Does this work?? Well, I installed the 5-speed in 1991 and it has been totally flawless. Clutch take-up is perfect and the effort feels like stock. Oh yes, mine was a pre-Rivergate conversion from an Oregon company. Seems like the guy's name was Rex Urban. Just FYI.... Jack -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jack Laird Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 1:47 PM To: rrengineer at dslextreme.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 5 Speed Clutch Problem Sorry, did not know. Adjust it out further and see if that helps a bit. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Jack Laird" Cc: ; Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 5 Speed Clutch Problem > Jack, > Part of Paul's kit is an adjustable pushrod for the slave cylinder. > It is adjusted out pretty far right now which makes it longer than > the original rod already. > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > > > Jack Laird >> Put an extended rod in the slave cylinder. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 1:01 AM >> Subject: [Spridgets] 5 Speed Clutch Problem >> >> >>>A while ago I put Paul's conversion in my Bugeye with a rather expensive >>> 1275 build. I was hoping for a really fun car to drive, but no. There >>> has been this clutch problem I am just getting around to trying to fix. >>> I >>> actually took 3 days off work to do it. The problem is the master >>> cylinder pushrod goes in almost all the way with no back pressure until >>> the pedal is almost to the floor, then it gets real hard for the last >>> couple of inches. You can only change gears when you push it right down >>> to the floor, just barely. I kept the 948 slave cylinder and attached >>> it >>> to the Datsun 5 speed trans. There is only a very slight movement at >>> the >>> slave cylinder (how much movement should there be?) Gerard and I worked >>> on this problem for a while and he even put an extension on the bleeder. >>> I can bleed it from up top. we were sure that we got the air out of it. >>> I pulled the master cylinder today and have it on the bench to inspect >>> for >>> problems. It was brass sleeved by White Post in 2000 and the bores >>> still >>> look very smooth. The rubber looks O.K. too. I'm going to replace it >>> anyway as it is already apart. The kit says "Made in England" "NS" >>> "UDB" >>> on the cups that go on the pushrod and "Made in England" "OCJ" on the >>> cup >>> that gets pushed down the bore. Not Lockheed. Any one have any ideas >>> what could be wrong. I'm hoping the slave is not the problem. Very >>> difficult to get out without pulling the engine and trans. This master >>> and slave combo worked fine with the original 948 and smoothcase trans I >>> pulled out. >>> Mike MacLean >>> 60 Sprite From thcollin at mtu.edu Tue Jun 5 13:58:02 2007 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 15:58:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Door Glass trick needed Message-ID: <60324o$43j81@email.mtu.edu> I am trying to remove the window glass from a donor door. What is the best way to loosen the glass from the rubber channel it sits in? Solvents? Heat? or ???? Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Jun 5 14:05:47 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 15:05:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Door Glass trick needed In-Reply-To: <60324o$43j81@email.mtu.edu> References: <60324o$43j81@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: You need to remove it IN the channel. This will require removing the quarterlight first. Have you wife get online, and look up British cuss words, when you start. Have her print out the ENTIRE list, as you WILL need them ALL!! On 6/5/07, Timothy H. Collins wrote: > I am trying to remove the window glass from a donor door. What is the > best way to loosen the glass from the rubber channel it sits in? > Solvents? Heat? or ???? > > Tim Collins > 1966 AH Sprite > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From cfchrist at earthlink.net Tue Jun 5 14:36:21 2007 From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (Charles Christ) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 16:36:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] half shafts Message-ID: <410-22007625203621340@earthlink.net> sadly it's white boards with erasable colored markers now , no longer slate black boards with chalk in my son's school... we had a power point presentation for our son's "IEP" team meeting for help with math and english. to be honest it was way beyond our comprehension! this high tech stuff is way way outta controll in my life! i need points and condenser reality! chuck detention? yeah right! broken rulers across knuckles? yeah right! spankings? yea right! now it's "if you do anything to me i'm reporting you to the authorities and my family will sue you!". the inmates now run the prison! > [Original Message] > From: Brad Fornal > To: Timothy H. Collins > Cc: > Date: 6/5/2007 9:44:01 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] half shafts > > I don't think so. When a student is being punished now, they don't > stay after school to bang the erasers, they have to bang the ......... > um, nevermind. > > On 6/5/07, Timothy H. Collins wrote: > > > (Do they still use chalk in school or is everything PowerPoint?) From millerls at ado13.com Tue Jun 5 14:51:53 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 13:51:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] VIN Plate Message-ID: <009601c7a7b3$59179210$c409664c@HP> I saved the name and address of the place that will make a VIN plate but can't seem to find it. Does anyone know the name/address/email/etc. of the guy that does this? Larry Miller From millerls at ado13.com Tue Jun 5 14:54:22 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 13:54:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] We Are In The Show Message-ID: <009a01c7a7b3$b23f5cb0$c409664c@HP> The Byers Volvo Special that I helped restore and that I crew for has been invited to the Monterey Historic. Owner/driver is Ole Anderson. Needless to say, we are excited. Larry Miller From peter at nosimport.com Tue Jun 5 15:05:32 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 16:05:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] We Are In The Show In-Reply-To: <009a01c7a7b3$b23f5cb0$c409664c@HP> References: <009a01c7a7b3$b23f5cb0$c409664c@HP> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070605160436.0348ddd0@nosimport.com> Go if you can. Meet Ole. Great guy. Come back to Westconsin sometime, Larry! Peter C == At 03:54 PM 6/5/2007, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: >The Byers Volvo Special that I helped restore and that I crew for has been >invited to the Monterey Historic. Owner/driver is Ole Anderson. Needless to >say, we are excited. > >Larry Miller From millerls at ado13.com Tue Jun 5 15:14:11 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 14:14:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] We Are In The Show References: <009a01c7a7b3$b23f5cb0$c409664c@HP> <7.0.1.0.2.20070605160436.0348ddd0@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <00a501c7a7b6$793f3360$c409664c@HP> I Hope to. > > Come back to Westconsin sometime, Larry! > > Peter C From millerls at ado13.com Tue Jun 5 15:22:04 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 14:22:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugzuki Paint Message-ID: <00ab01c7a7b7$90abf230$c409664c@HP> Bugzuki entered the paint shop yesterday. Supposed to be back next week. I will post some pictures when it arrives. From bvsprite at yahoo.com Tue Jun 5 15:22:19 2007 From: bvsprite at yahoo.com (bv) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 14:22:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Hello - it's been a while Message-ID: <566.69087.qm@web53809.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hello everyone, It's been quite a while since I posted, but I'm finally re-subscribed to the list. My previous employer had blocked access to the list, and I was unable to send/received messages. I still see a lot of familiar names on the list, and I'm happy to see you guys are still around. I've still got my green 59 bugeye, and she runs like a champ. I still make minor adjustments and improvements, but it's been pretty trouble free for the last 5-years:-) Regards, Bryan Vandiver San Jose,CA ____________________________________________________________________________________ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ From jlaird237 at cox.net Tue Jun 5 15:31:04 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 16:31:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] VIN Plate References: <009601c7a7b3$59179210$c409664c@HP> Message-ID: <000601c7a7b8$d2826350$15bf0e44@personal> http://www.vintags.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry & Sandi Miller" To: "Spridget" Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 3:51 PM Subject: [Spridgets] VIN Plate >I saved the name and address of the place that will make a VIN plate but > can't seem to find it. > > Does anyone know the name/address/email/etc. of the guy that does this? > > Larry Miller > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/832 - Release Date: 6/4/2007 > 6:43 PM From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Tue Jun 5 15:31:24 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 14:31:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello - it's been a while References: <566.69087.qm@web53809.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001001c7a7b8$de641330$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Hi Brian, Long time gone. Good to have you back. I remember your leaf green BE from the open house at Mini Mania when they were still in Milpitas. Pretty pretty paint. Glen > Hello everyone, > > It's been quite a while since I posted, but I'm > finally re-subscribed to the list. My previous > employer had blocked access to the list, and I was > unable to send/received messages. I still see a lot of > familiar names on the list, and I'm happy to see you > guys are still around. > > I've still got my green 59 bugeye, and she runs like a > champ. I still make minor adjustments and > improvements, but it's been pretty trouble free for > the last 5-years:-) > > Regards, > Bryan Vandiver > San Jose,CA From hobbycars at cox.net Tue Jun 5 15:32:25 2007 From: hobbycars at cox.net (Jacques Le Clainche) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 14:32:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] VIN Plate In-Reply-To: <009601c7a7b3$59179210$c409664c@HP> Message-ID: I dealt before with Todd Clarke of Clarke Spares and restorations. Tel: (215) 348-4168. Website here: http://www.clarkespares.com/ JLC Larry M. wrote: I saved the name and address of the place that will make a VIN plate but can't seem to find it. Does anyone know the name/address/email/etc. of the guy that does this? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/834 - Release Date: 6/5/2007 2:38 PM From thcollin at mtu.edu Tue Jun 5 15:46:25 2007 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 17:46:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Door Glass trick needed In-Reply-To: References: <60324o$43j81@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <60324o$44t5i@email.mtu.edu> At 04:05 PM 6/5/2007, Brad Fornal wrote: >You need to remove it IN the channel. And that (in the channel) worked just fine! I already had the 1/4 light out so I just keep jiggling parts until the channel slipped out while repeating "IN the channel." Didn't need the cuss words - don't use them anyhow. There is a whole area of study called "Design for Manufacturability" that could easily apply to those windows. But, I suppose the guy who assembled those windows at the factory made it look like child's play. Thanks Brad. I suppose assembly is the reverse of disassembly??? Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From Daniel1312 at aol.com Tue Jun 5 15:51:40 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 17:51:40 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] half shafts Message-ID: make that dry marker boards ......... In a message dated 05/06/07 21:37:01 GMT Daylight Time, cfchrist at earthlink.net writes: > sadly it's white boards with erasable colored markers now From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jun 5 16:02:36 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 17:02:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Door Glass trick needed References: <60324o$43j81@email.mtu.edu> <60324o$44t5i@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <00e001c7a7bd$39f4cab0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Thanks Brad. I suppose assembly is the reverse of disassembly??? Yeah, but un-jiggling is challenging, to say the least. From millerls at ado13.com Tue Jun 5 16:44:48 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 15:44:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello - it's been a while References: <566.69087.qm@web53809.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <011101c7a7c3$1fc7fd50$c409664c@HP> Hi Bryan Long time since I last heard from you. Glad to see you back. Larry Miller ----- Original Message ----- From: "bv" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 2:22 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Hello - it's been a while > Hello everyone, > > It's been quite a while since I posted, but I'm > finally re-subscribed to the list. My previous > employer had blocked access to the list, and I was > unable to send/received messages. I still see a lot of > familiar names on the list, and I'm happy to see you > guys are still around. > > I've still got my green 59 bugeye, and she runs like a > champ. I still make minor adjustments and > improvements, but it's been pretty trouble free for > the last 5-years:-) > > Regards, > Bryan Vandiver > San Jose,CA From mconn2 at bright.net Tue Jun 5 17:57:55 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 19:57:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Help! Message-ID: <000a01c7a7cd$56a35ef0$c334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Brad, I'm not receiving any e-mails from the List. What's happening? What do I do? Michael From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Tue Jun 5 19:27:41 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 19:27:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Nice tow vehicle References: <946439.90452.qm@web30515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <000801c7a765$7dff7e60$15bf0e44@personal> Message-ID: <009601c7a7d9$e0d05540$6501a8c0@actualshop> < wheels are your thing: >> But!!!!: http://tinyurl.com/2ewsrb if you want to take your LBC with you!! BTW, Flounder and I know of a Big Healey (LBC content) that actually has a rig like it for his Big Healey 100 cars!!! From vainent at nfdc.net Tue Jun 5 18:56:42 2007 From: vainent at nfdc.net (GARY) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 20:56:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] richmond trans Message-ID: <001601c7a7d5$8c8caa50$648a67d0@puddie> hi all, i have a richmond competition ribcase trans that i would like to sell, please contact me off list if you are interested, regards vainent at nfdc.net 717-227-2262 From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jun 5 20:21:59 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 22:21:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 5 Speed Clutch Problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46661A47.8060109@comcast.net> Mike How is the master cyl rod adjusted. And too much length on the slave rod with not enough on the master rod may be your problem. If the master rod is not letting the juice past the tiny hole in the master, you build no pressure. And if the slave rod is too long, it may be overthrowing the clutch. I had to mess with the rods for the 5 speed on my 58. At first I had serious clutch slippage, shorten the slave rod and I could not get it in gear. I'm talking 1 or 2 turns of the adjustable rod. Just a thought. Try rolling the car in gear (5th) engine off. Now do it again with your foot on the clutch. Note if there is any difference. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From pilotrob at msn.com Tue Jun 5 15:53:57 2007 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 21:53:57 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Bugzuki Paint Message-ID: "I will post some pics when it arrives" YES!! :) CapBob From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Wed Jun 6 06:47:16 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 08:47:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] We Are In The Show In-Reply-To: <009a01c7a7b3$b23f5cb0$c409664c@HP> References: <009a01c7a7b3$b23f5cb0$c409664c@HP> Message-ID: <618D7467-E685-4253-8C92-26FE7492EFF3@phillymgclub.com> Congratulations!! I do not race, but I understand the thrill of an invite to a prestigious event like the Monterey!! THe Really Real, Real, Larry On Jun 5, 2007, at 4:54 PM, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > The Byers Volvo Special that I helped restore and that I crew for > has been > invited to the Monterey Historic. Owner/driver is Ole Anderson. > Needless to > say, we are excited. > > Larry Miller > _______________________________________________ > lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Wed Jun 6 06:49:16 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 08:49:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello - it's been a while In-Reply-To: <566.69087.qm@web53809.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <566.69087.qm@web53809.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: What, no internet at home?? Join the 21st century :-) Ed On Jun 5, 2007, at 5:22 PM, bv wrote: > Hello everyone, > > It's been quite a while since I posted, but I'm > finally re-subscribed to the list. My previous > employer had blocked access to the list, and I was > unable to send/received messages. I still see a lot of > familiar names on the list, and I'm happy to see you > guys are still around. > > I've still got my green 59 bugeye, and she runs like a > champ. I still make minor adjustments and > improvements, but it's been pretty trouble free for > the last 5-years:-) > > Regards, > Bryan Vandiver > San Jose,CA From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Wed Jun 6 06:54:36 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 08:54:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Nice tow vehicle In-Reply-To: <009601c7a7d9$e0d05540$6501a8c0@actualshop> References: <946439.90452.qm@web30515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <000801c7a765$7dff7e60$15bf0e44@personal> <009601c7a7d9$e0d05540$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: Don't do that. Using tinyurl for a DOWNLOAD is not cool. Maybe some folks would get that to open directly in PPT, Maybe not. But a direct link to a file ain't nice. Gimme a full URL to a file, then I get to decide what to DL/open. For the most part I trust the folks on this list, but you never know. Larry On Jun 5, 2007, at 9:27 PM, 63AHBJ7 wrote: > < wheels are your thing: >> > > But!!!!: > > http://tinyurl.com/2ewsrb if you want to take your LBC with you!! > > BTW, Flounder and I know of a Big Healey (LBC content) that > actually has a > rig like it for his Big Healey 100 cars!!! From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Jun 6 07:12:44 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 9:12:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Nice tow vehicle Message-ID: <20070606131244.CYNF25739.tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> You're right! I never know. RD > From: Larry Macy > > but you never know. > > Larry From bvsprite at yahoo.com Wed Jun 6 09:45:25 2007 From: bvsprite at yahoo.com (bv) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 08:45:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 5 Speed Clutch Problem Message-ID: <874734.19144.qm@web53801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I'm reforwarding this message to the list, since it was bounced the first time. BTW - the correct Datsun clutch slave to use with the 5-speed conversion is Beck/Arnley 072-159 (72-79 nissan pickup) - Bryan --- bv wrote: > Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 11:32:07 -0700 (PDT) > From: bv > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 5 Speed Clutch Problem > To: rrengineer at dslextreme.com, > trevorwj at insightbb.com > CC: Spridgets > > Mike, > > Howdy! I've been off the list for quite some time, > and > just recently re-subscribed. > > I was having problems with clutch travel when I > first > installed my 5-speed conversion too. > I switched to a 'datsun' clutch slave, (I think it > was > from a nissan/datsun pickup) and I'm really happy > with > the clutch pedal travel and feel. Also, the bleed is > at the top of the cylinder.:-) (ebay find) > My bugeye has the 3/4" dual master (disk brakes), > and > I use a custom bent (did myself) hard line to the > clutch, that looks similar to the original. > Another thing you need to check, is to make sure the > master cylinder piston for the clutch is returning > far > enough back in the master cylinder to expose the > hole > in the bottom of the reservoir. Of course if you > have > any air in the system, no matter what adjustments > you > make, it's still going to have the same symptoms you > described. > > Regards, > Bryan Vandiver > San Jose, CA > 59 Bugeye From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 6 09:49:58 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 10:49:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ultimate Garage Giveaway / Iola Car Show Message-ID: <006901c7a852$58031490$6401a8c0@Larry> Enter here for the 2007 version of Old Cars Weekly's Ultimate Garage Giveaway http://www.oldcarsweekly.com/ ======================================== BTW, who is going to the Iola Old Car Show (Iola, WI) this year? Dates are July 12, 13, 14 and 15. It's the biggest car show in the mid-west. (PPP, if you talk with Chris Mills in the next couple of weeks, see if we can give him enough warning to join us this year.) I just confirmed with John Gunnell that we will be having free admission for our British cars again on Sunday the 15th. His reply: Yes, and it will be much improved over last year. The Old Car Show staff has a new PR person named Rick Schlabowske. Rick is also a Triumph guy and a FCBCC member. Here is his email rick at iolaoldcarshow.com The plan is to do International Alley on Sunday again with free admission to participating cars. We will have much nicer real estate this year. The shaded area in the far northwest corner of the show grounds is envisioned as the location. This is just north of the KP tennis courts and just west of the Blur Ribbon are. It is a partly secluded area and one that can probably accommodate 100-125 cars set off, but prominent in the front of the show. KP (Krause) is going to do a flyer to promote the show for handout at Sussex. They will also have our imported car books available in that area. So there should be more support from both the car show and the publishing company, although I hope FCBCC benefits the most. I have been trying to find an email for Jim Marks, but I don't have it, so that is one reason the word hasn't gotten out yet, but there's enough time. As soon as I hear whether Jim and FCBCC are on board, I can do a write up for Old Cars Weekly and also send copies to local papers. Plans are a little preliminary and could change slightly, but it sounds like it will be a good venue. John Gunnell Team Leader Transportation Books F + W Publications 700 E. State Street Iola, WI 54990 715 445 2214 extension 248 John.Gunnell at FWPubs.com ======================================== BTW, John wrote a real nice British sports car book called "Standard Guide to British Sports Cars" (as well as a ton of other car books). I recommend it. Anybody who would like a copy and can't make it to the show, let me know and I can pick up a copy and have John sign it for you. It says $24.99 on the back of the book. It seems to me that I got it cheaper through our Brit car club, FCBCC, of which John is a member. NFI, it's just a good book and John is a good guy and a big-time Brit car fan and owner. From peter at nosimport.com Wed Jun 6 09:51:53 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 10:51:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 5 Speed Clutch Problem In-Reply-To: <874734.19144.qm@web53801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <874734.19144.qm@web53801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070606105022.03739110@nosimport.com> Bryan... B/A numbers are 7 digits. So it is 072-1159 And yes, it does work properly. Sold'em. Good to "see" you back! Peter C == At 10:45 AM 6/6/2007, bv wrote: >I'm reforwarding this message to the list, since it >was bounced the first time. > >BTW - the correct Datsun clutch slave to use with the >5-speed conversion is Beck/Arnley 072-159 (72-79 >nissan pickup) > > - Bryan > >--- bv wrote: > > > Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 11:32:07 -0700 (PDT) > > From: bv > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 5 Speed Clutch Problem > > To: rrengineer at dslextreme.com, > > trevorwj at insightbb.com > > CC: Spridgets > > > > Mike, > > > > Howdy! I've been off the list for quite some time, > > and > > just recently re-subscribed. > > > > I was having problems with clutch travel when I > > first > > installed my 5-speed conversion too. > > I switched to a 'datsun' clutch slave, (I think it > > was > > from a nissan/datsun pickup) and I'm really happy > > with > > the clutch pedal travel and feel. Also, the bleed is > > at the top of the cylinder.:-) (ebay find) > > My bugeye has the 3/4" dual master (disk brakes), > > and > > I use a custom bent (did myself) hard line to the > > clutch, that looks similar to the original. > > Another thing you need to check, is to make sure the > > master cylinder piston for the clutch is returning > > far > > enough back in the master cylinder to expose the > > hole > > in the bottom of the reservoir. Of course if you > > have > > any air in the system, no matter what adjustments > > you > > make, it's still going to have the same symptoms you > > described. > > > > Regards, > > Bryan Vandiver > > San Jose, CA > > 59 Bugeye From bvsprite at yahoo.com Wed Jun 6 10:59:16 2007 From: bvsprite at yahoo.com (bv) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 09:59:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 5 Speed Clutch Problem In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070606105022.03739110@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <552675.33587.qm@web53809.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Peter, Yes, I miss-typed it is 072-1159 (I've got the old box right here). In fact I may have even got it from you;-) I should add that it does require a threaded adapter to connect the clutch line to the slave. Regards, Bryan --- Peter C wrote: > Bryan... B/A numbers are 7 digits. So it is > 072-1159 > > And yes, it does work properly. Sold'em. > > Good to "see" you back! > > Peter C > == > > > At 10:45 AM 6/6/2007, bv wrote: > > >I'm reforwarding this message to the list, since it > >was bounced the first time. > > > >BTW - the correct Datsun clutch slave to use with > the > >5-speed conversion is Beck/Arnley 072-159 (72-79 > >nissan pickup) > > > > - Bryan > > > >--- bv wrote: > > > > > Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 11:32:07 -0700 (PDT) > > > From: bv > > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 5 Speed Clutch Problem > > > To: rrengineer at dslextreme.com, > > > trevorwj at insightbb.com > > > CC: Spridgets > > > > > > Mike, > > > > > > Howdy! I've been off the list for quite some > time, > > > and > > > just recently re-subscribed. > > > > > > I was having problems with clutch travel when I > > > first > > > installed my 5-speed conversion too. > > > I switched to a 'datsun' clutch slave, (I think > it > > > was > > > from a nissan/datsun pickup) and I'm really > happy > > > with > > > the clutch pedal travel and feel. Also, the > bleed is > > > at the top of the cylinder.:-) (ebay find) > > > My bugeye has the 3/4" dual master (disk > brakes), > > > and > > > I use a custom bent (did myself) hard line to > the > > > clutch, that looks similar to the original. > > > Another thing you need to check, is to make sure > the > > > master cylinder piston for the clutch is > returning > > > far > > > enough back in the master cylinder to expose the > > > hole > > > in the bottom of the reservoir. Of course if > you > > > have > > > any air in the system, no matter what > adjustments > > > you > > > make, it's still going to have the same symptoms > you > > > described. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Bryan Vandiver > > > San Jose, CA > > > 59 Bugeye > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC From millerls at ado13.com Wed Jun 6 11:37:31 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 10:37:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Cool Tool Message-ID: <01d401c7a861$5ccfba00$c409664c@HP> While browsing at Pep Boys I found the tool to inject 90 wt oil into the Spridget steering rack. It is intended to fill the lower section oil pump on an outboard. It has a zerk on one end and the pump that screws onto the oil bottle on the other end. I've been told that they make a cartridge type gun and a 90wt oil cartridge for use on outboards but I've never been able to find one. Larry Miller (The real Larry) From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jun 6 12:00:55 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 13:00:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cool Tool References: <01d401c7a861$5ccfba00$c409664c@HP> Message-ID: <010201c7a864$a19549e0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > While browsing at Pep Boys I found the tool to inject 90 wt oil into the > Spridget steering rack. It is intended to fill the lower section oil pump > on an outboard. It has a zerk on one end and the pump that screws onto the > oil bottle on the other end. And I found that this works great for filling your diff or your Datsun gearbox. Just remove the fitting from the end of the hose and pump. From wolf.brent at gmail.com Wed Jun 6 12:01:33 2007 From: wolf.brent at gmail.com (Brent Wolf) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 14:01:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Cool Tool In-Reply-To: <01d401c7a861$5ccfba00$c409664c@HP> References: <01d401c7a861$5ccfba00$c409664c@HP> Message-ID: <62b83300706061101t6c9d5ba4xf21d605e84f1526d@mail.gmail.com> WWW.McMaster.com page 2096 Bulk load Grease/Oil guns. Bulk-Load Grease/Oil Guns Angled Rigid Extension Flexible Hose Extension Dispense both grease and oil with one gun. These units deliver 1 oz. of grease (up to NLGI No. 2) or oil per 21 strokes at a maximum pressure of 5800 psi. Fill by bulk loading only; load capacity is 16 oz. Barrel and cap head are steel. Guns include a coupler and M10 x 1 female connection for nozzle extension attachments (sold separately on pages 2097-2098). On 6/6/07, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > > While browsing at Pep Boys I found the tool to inject 90 wt oil into the > Spridget steering rack. It is intended to fill the lower section oil pump > on an outboard. It has a zerk on one end and the pump that screws onto the > oil bottle on the other end. > > I've been told that they make a cartridge type gun and a 90wt oil > cartridge > for use on outboards but I've never been able to find one. > > Larry Miller (The real Larry) > _______________________________________________ > wolf.brent at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From hal at katemuir.com Wed Jun 6 12:07:14 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 11:07:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Austin Sherline, Gone. In-Reply-To: <001001c7a7b8$de641330$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: Hey Glen, On my morning stroll today I noticed the Sherline is no longer there. Did you get it? Or is is destined to be chopped and channeled bby some high school kid? Hal From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jun 6 12:12:49 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 13:12:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cool Tool References: <01d401c7a861$5ccfba00$c409664c@HP> <62b83300706061101t6c9d5ba4xf21d605e84f1526d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <010c01c7a866$4b21def0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > WWW.McMaster.com page 2096 Bulk load Grease/Oil > guns. Bet mine was cheaper and yours will last longer ;-) From millerls at ado13.com Wed Jun 6 12:49:50 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 11:49:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Cool Tool References: <01d401c7a861$5ccfba00$c409664c@HP> <62b83300706061101t6c9d5ba4xf21d605e84f1526d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <020f01c7a86b$771ced60$c409664c@HP> That would appear to be the one, except bulk vice cartridge. Way more expensive though. This one cost $10 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brent Wolf" To: "Spridget" Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cool Tool > WWW.McMaster.com page 2096 Bulk load Grease/Oil > guns. > > Bulk-Load Grease/Oil Guns Angled > Rigid Extension > Flexible Hose Extension > Dispense both grease and oil with one gun. These units deliver 1 oz. of > grease (up to NLGI No. 2) or oil per 21 strokes at a maximum pressure of > 5800 psi. Fill by bulk loading only; load capacity is 16 oz. Barrel and > cap > head are steel. Guns include a coupler and M10 x 1 female connection for > nozzle extension attachments (sold separately on pages > 2097-2098). > > > > > On 6/6/07, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: >> >> While browsing at Pep Boys I found the tool to inject 90 wt oil into the >> Spridget steering rack. It is intended to fill the lower section oil >> pump >> on an outboard. It has a zerk on one end and the pump that screws onto >> the >> oil bottle on the other end. >> >> I've been told that they make a cartridge type gun and a 90wt oil >> cartridge >> for use on outboards but I've never been able to find one. From peter at nosimport.com Wed Jun 6 13:16:55 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 14:16:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cool Tool In-Reply-To: <020f01c7a86b$771ced60$c409664c@HP> References: <01d401c7a861$5ccfba00$c409664c@HP> <62b83300706061101t6c9d5ba4xf21d605e84f1526d@mail.gmail.com> <020f01c7a86b$771ced60$c409664c@HP> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070606141621.032be0a8@nosimport.com> $7.95 locally at Farm and Fleet. Peter C === At 01:49 PM 6/6/2007, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: >That would appear to be the one, except bulk vice cartridge. Way more >expensive though. This one cost $10 From millerls at ado13.com Wed Jun 6 13:29:53 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 12:29:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Cool Tool References: <01d401c7a861$5ccfba00$c409664c@HP> <62b83300706061101t6c9d5ba4xf21d605e84f1526d@mail.gmail.com> <020f01c7a86b$771ced60$c409664c@HP> <7.0.1.0.2.20070606141621.032be0a8@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <022b01c7a871$0f6756f0$c409664c@HP> What can I say, things are cheaper there :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter C" To: "Larry & Sandi Miller" ; "Brent Wolf" ; "Spridget" Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cool Tool > $7.95 locally at Farm and Fleet. > Peter C > === > At 01:49 PM 6/6/2007, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > >>That would appear to be the one, except bulk vice cartridge. Way more >>expensive though. This one cost $10 From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Wed Jun 6 13:44:10 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 12:44:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Cool Tool In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070606141621.032be0a8@nosimport.com> References: <01d401c7a861$5ccfba00$c409664c@HP><62b83300706061101t6c9d5ba4xf21d605e84f1526d@mail.gmail.com><020f01c7a86b$771ced60$c409664c@HP> <7.0.1.0.2.20070606141621.032be0a8@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <74e0a13a88a12430a9060a.20070606124410.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> This is what I bought a few years ago at the local marine supply. http://www.vtr.org/maintain/trunnion-oil.shtml Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Peter C > $7.95 locally at Farm and Fleet. > Peter C > === > At 01:49 PM 6/6/2007, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > >>That would appear to be the one, except bulk vice cartridge. Way more >>expensive though. This one cost $10 From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jun 6 14:00:12 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 15:00:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Confusing MM Calendar In-Reply-To: <46659547.1090108@earthlink.net> References: <46659547.1090108@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0706061300p11a466b2pa4754869e6dd6dc9@mail.gmail.com> I have corrected this problem at least insofar as the Lake of the Ozarks event is concerned. There is now an entry in the MM forum for "50 Years of Spridgets" along with a copy of the poster and a pointer to the web site. Cheers!! Jim On 6/5/07, b-evans at earthlink.net wrote: > I just received an e-mail from Mess Motors with a calendar of events for > 2007. Confusingly, there was a "Club Event Announcements" with a > listing for " Sprite 50th Anniversarry > ". > Unfortunately, as you scan the topic headings, none make it clear to > WHICH event it is referring! There are, after all, a myriad of events > throughout half of the world. > > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- 1964 R60/2 BMW 1968 MG Midget 1976 R90/6 BMW 1990 K100LT BMW Thomas Huxley - "It is not who is right, but what is right, that is of importance." From mconn2 at bright.net Wed Jun 6 15:01:12 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 17:01:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Help! References: <000a01c7a7cd$56a35ef0$c334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <000c01c7a7da$5d764690$c634ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <001e01c7a87d$d17591b0$1234ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Brad, I've still not received anything from the List or Mark. I've tried re-applying for membership, but have heard nothing. I seem to be "locked out" so to speak. Are you receiving/sending e-mails in the usual way? Have you (or anyone else on the List) had a similar experience. If so, what did you do to get back on? Look forward to hearing from you. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Fornal" To: "Michael Conn" Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 9:33 PM Subject: Re: Help! > s'nuthin > > On 6/5/07, Michael Conn wrote: >> Brad, >> >> I'll give it a try. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Michael >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Brad Fornal" >> To: "Michael Conn" >> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 9:28 PM >> Subject: Re: Help! >> >> >> >I know that Mark has been working on a new system. Have you tried to >> > re-sub? I wonder if you were one of the few to fall through the >> > cracks? >> > >> > On 6/5/07, Michael Conn wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Brad, >> >> >> >> I'm not receiving any e-mails from the List. What's happening? What >> >> do >> >> I >> >> do? >> >> >> >> Michael >> > >> > >> > -- >> > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad >> > >> >> > > > -- > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From mconn2 at bright.net Wed Jun 6 15:06:16 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 17:06:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Help! Message-ID: <000801c7a87e$86659b60$1234ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Brad, Forgot to mention a point in my last e-mail. At first I thought it was my server, but I'm receiving e-mails from you and other people outside of the List. So, a server problem can't be the reason. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Conn" To: "Brad Fornal" Cc: "spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 5:01 PM Subject: Re: Help! > Brad, > > I've still not received anything from the List or Mark. I've tried > re-applying for membership, but have heard nothing. I seem to be "locked > out" so to speak. > > Are you receiving/sending e-mails in the usual way? > > Have you (or anyone else on the List) had a similar experience. If so, > what did you do to get back on? > > Look forward to hearing from you. > > Michael > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brad Fornal" > To: "Michael Conn" > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 9:33 PM > Subject: Re: Help! > > >> s'nuthin >> >> On 6/5/07, Michael Conn wrote: >>> Brad, >>> >>> I'll give it a try. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Michael >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Brad Fornal" >>> To: "Michael Conn" >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 9:28 PM >>> Subject: Re: Help! >>> >>> >>> >I know that Mark has been working on a new system. Have you tried to >>> > re-sub? I wonder if you were one of the few to fall through the >>> > cracks? >>> > >>> > On 6/5/07, Michael Conn wrote: >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Brad, >>> >> >>> >> I'm not receiving any e-mails from the List. What's happening? What >>> >> do >>> >> I >>> >> do? >>> >> >>> >> Michael >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad >>> > >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From refisk at chartermi.net Wed Jun 6 15:07:03 2007 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 17:07:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Help! References: <000a01c7a7cd$56a35ef0$c334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757><000c01c7a7da$5d764690$c634ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <001e01c7a87d$d17591b0$1234ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <004e01c7a87e$a2d14d80$6401a8c0@refisk> Michael, Your messages are making it to the list. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Conn" To: "Brad Fornal" Cc: "spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Help! > Brad, > > I've still not received anything from the List or Mark. I've tried > re-applying for membership, but have heard nothing. I seem to be "locked > out" so to speak. > > Are you receiving/sending e-mails in the usual way? > > Have you (or anyone else on the List) had a similar experience. If so, > what did you do to get back on? > > Look forward to hearing from you. > > Michael > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brad Fornal" > To: "Michael Conn" > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 9:33 PM > Subject: Re: Help! > > >> s'nuthin >> >> On 6/5/07, Michael Conn wrote: >>> Brad, >>> >>> I'll give it a try. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Michael >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Brad Fornal" >>> To: "Michael Conn" >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 9:28 PM >>> Subject: Re: Help! >>> >>> >>> >I know that Mark has been working on a new system. Have you tried to >>> > re-sub? I wonder if you were one of the few to fall through the >>> > cracks? >>> > >>> > On 6/5/07, Michael Conn wrote: >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Brad, >>> >> >>> >> I'm not receiving any e-mails from the List. What's happening? What >>> >> do >>> >> I >>> >> do? >>> >> >>> >> Michael From RobertDuquette at Sympatico.ca Wed Jun 6 15:07:13 2007 From: RobertDuquette at Sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 17:07:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Help! In-Reply-To: <001e01c7a87d$d17591b0$1234ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> References: <000a01c7a7cd$56a35ef0$c334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757><000c01c7a7da$5d764690$c634ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <001e01c7a87d$d17591b0$1234ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <01f301c7a87e$a7b5e590$6601a8c0@RobertDuquette> Maybe you're just paranoid? :) -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Conn Sent: June 6, 2007 5:01 PM To: Brad Fornal Cc: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Help! Brad, I've still not received anything from the List or Mark. I've tried re-applying for membership, but have heard nothing. I seem to be "locked out" so to speak. Are you receiving/sending e-mails in the usual way? Have you (or anyone else on the List) had a similar experience. If so, what did you do to get back on? Look forward to hearing from you. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Fornal" To: "Michael Conn" Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 9:33 PM Subject: Re: Help! > s'nuthin > > On 6/5/07, Michael Conn wrote: >> Brad, >> >> I'll give it a try. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Michael >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Brad Fornal" >> To: "Michael Conn" >> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 9:28 PM >> Subject: Re: Help! >> >> >> >I know that Mark has been working on a new system. Have you tried to >> > re-sub? I wonder if you were one of the few to fall through the >> > cracks? >> > >> > On 6/5/07, Michael Conn wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Brad, >> >> >> >> I'm not receiving any e-mails from the List. What's happening? What >> >> do >> >> I >> >> do? >> >> >> >> Michael >> > >> > >> > -- >> > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad >> > >> >> > > > -- > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad _______________________________________________ robertduquette at sympatico.ca Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From thcollin at mtu.edu Wed Jun 6 15:07:57 2007 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 17:07:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sterling Moss Message-ID: <60313l$3t748@email.mtu.edu> www.autoblog.com has two nice hi res pics of Sir Stirling Moss in a Aston Martin DBR1. Tim Collins From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jun 6 15:15:37 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 16:15:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help! In-Reply-To: <01f301c7a87e$a7b5e590$6601a8c0@RobertDuquette> References: <000a01c7a7cd$56a35ef0$c334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <000c01c7a7da$5d764690$c634ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <001e01c7a87d$d17591b0$1234ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <01f301c7a87e$a7b5e590$6601a8c0@RobertDuquette> Message-ID: It's not paranoid, if they are REALLY out to get you!! On 6/6/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > Maybe you're just paranoid? :) > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Conn > Sent: June 6, 2007 5:01 PM > To: Brad Fornal > Cc: spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Help! > > Brad, > > I've still not received anything from the List or Mark. I've tried > re-applying for membership, but have heard nothing. I seem to be "locked > out" so to speak. > > Are you receiving/sending e-mails in the usual way? > > Have you (or anyone else on the List) had a similar experience. If so, > what did you do to get back on? > > Look forward to hearing from you. > > Michael > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brad Fornal" > To: "Michael Conn" > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 9:33 PM > Subject: Re: Help! > > > > s'nuthin > > > > On 6/5/07, Michael Conn wrote: > >> Brad, > >> > >> I'll give it a try. > >> > >> Thank you. > >> > >> Michael > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Brad Fornal" > >> To: "Michael Conn" > >> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 9:28 PM > >> Subject: Re: Help! > >> > >> > >> >I know that Mark has been working on a new system. Have you tried to > >> > re-sub? I wonder if you were one of the few to fall through the > >> > cracks? > >> > > >> > On 6/5/07, Michael Conn wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Brad, > >> >> > >> >> I'm not receiving any e-mails from the List. What's happening? What > >> >> do > >> >> I > >> >> do? > >> >> > >> >> Michael > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From sprite58 at hotmail.com Wed Jun 6 15:18:20 2007 From: sprite58 at hotmail.com (r moses) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 16:18:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Confusing MM Calendar Message-ID: Didn't see this come up on the Spridget list. Sorry, if it has been posted twice. Read this event announcement at Moss Motors last night. He mentions he enjoyed himself at .... (I remember attending the 1988 Sprite 30th Anniversary in Carlisle, PA. I had a blast even though I didnt even bring a car!) ..... the 30th AH Sprite Anniversary in Carlisle called SPRITE FEST '88. It was our SPRITE Newsletter's first event. Here was/is our progression of those every 5 year Meets: SpriteFest 88, SpriteBash 93, SpriteRush 98, SpriteSpree 03... & soon Sprite Jubilee 08. I am sure there will be a SpriteGasm in 2013, '18 and '23 Lord willing and if my health holds out. At MM he was hoping somebody would put together a Sprite Meet like the ones we have done BUT some place near to his location of the country. FEAR NOT! There is a Meet scheduled in June of 2008 in mid-USA in MO. Maybe it is closer to his home than Pennsylvania. It should be a great gathering from what I have heard and seen. Go to www.sprite-midgetclub.org for their web site and information. Back in 1988 I wanted to have a Sprite anniversary meet that had three locations at the same time. One here in the East, Mid-USA and on the West Coast. At that time there was nobody, to take the "BULL-BY-THE-HORNS," to be responsible for the other two locations and to help coordinate that venture. Sprite Jubilee 2008's web site is www.spritejubilee.org. It is being built now. Here is the promotional information about our latest gathering SPRITE Newsletter's Sprite Jubilee 2008. You may have already read this but here it is. If you need any more information about SJ08 you may contact me personally toll free nation-wide at 877-748-3165 (8SPRITE1MK) or my cell 717-379-5752. Hope this helps with any confusion, Rick Moses, Organizer SJ08 SPRITE JUBILEE 2008 Plans are well underway for what is likely to be the biggest-ever gathering of Sprites, at least since they went out of production in 1970. The event is the Sprite Jubilee to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the Austin-Healey Sprite cars, and it will be held in central Pennsylvania, near the city of Hershey, May 16-20, 2008. This event follows the tradition started almost 20 years ago now, when in 1988 we celebrated the Sprites 30th anniversary with Sprite Fest, followed by Sprite Bash in 1993, Sprite Rush in 1998, and Sprite Spree in 2003. According to the Global Austin-Healey Sprite Registry, of which I am Registrar, this location is within a short driving distance for literally hundreds and hundreds of Spridgets. Additionally, owners of ALL English cars are invited to Sprite Jubilee 2008. Special recognition and awards for all British cars participating will be made during the meet. The dates of the event run concurrently with the Carlisle Import-Kit/Replicar Nationals, which will be held from Friday May 16th through Sunday May 18th, in nearby Carlisle, Pennsylvania. Featured guests for Sprite Jubilee 2008 are John and Caryl Sprinzel and Gerry and Marian Coker. Stay tuned for details of this very special event, and in the meantime you can contact me, Rick Moses, the organizer, at spritejubilee at hotmail.com and in person at toll free at 8SPRITE1MK  which is (877)748-3165  during the week, or on my mobile phones on weekends (717) 379-5752 or (717) 379-5572. Plan now to attend this once-in-a-lifetime gathering of an automotive legend! Keep smiling, Rick Moses _________________________________________________________________ Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only on MSN http://liveearth.msn.com?source=msntaglineliveearthhm From kristi74midget at comcast.net Wed Jun 6 17:49:20 2007 From: kristi74midget at comcast.net (Kristi & Lambert) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 19:49:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Message-ID: <4070F704-15A3-4939-A96D-C84329A4387D@comcast.net> Hi all, If anyone is intersted, I have a bugeye top, the guy who sold it to me was told it was a TR4 top, then after he bought it he was told it was a midget top, then after I bought it my father in law told me it was a bugeye top. Contact me if you are interested in purchasing it. Lambert 77 midget From mconn2 at bright.net Wed Jun 6 18:47:14 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 20:47:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Help! References: <000a01c7a7cd$56a35ef0$c334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <000c01c7a7da$5d764690$c634ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <002801c7a89d$64dd3920$eaaeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> Brad, Good news. I've discovered my anti-virus programme had taken out any thing to do with "spridgets" as a possible virus! I've made the necessary change allowing e-mails to/from the List to go through. I can now sit back, and enjoy reading 180 e-mails. Great. (Needless to say, the wife is not pleased!) Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Fornal" To: "Michael Conn" Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 9:33 PM Subject: Re: Help! > s'nuthin > > On 6/5/07, Michael Conn wrote: >> Brad, >> >> I'll give it a try. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Michael >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Brad Fornal" >> To: "Michael Conn" >> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 9:28 PM >> Subject: Re: Help! >> >> >> >I know that Mark has been working on a new system. Have you tried to >> > re-sub? I wonder if you were one of the few to fall through the >> > cracks? >> > >> > On 6/5/07, Michael Conn wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Brad, >> >> >> >> I'm not receiving any e-mails from the List. What's happening? What >> >> do >> >> I >> >> do? >> >> >> >> Michael >> > >> > >> > -- >> > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad >> > >> >> > > > -- > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From mconn2 at bright.net Wed Jun 6 19:04:33 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 21:04:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Help! References: <000a01c7a7cd$56a35ef0$c334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <000c01c7a7da$5d764690$c634ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <001e01c7a87d$d17591b0$1234ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <01f301c7a87e$a7b5e590$6601a8c0@RobertDuquette> Message-ID: <005b01c7a89f$cfdbbf60$eaaeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> Brad, Me, paranoid, me, paranoid. Do I hear you say: paranoid. (I walk backwards so I can see whether anybody is following me. Bit difficult in the AN5 though.) Thank you for your support and help. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Fornal" To: "Robert Duquette" Cc: "Michael Conn" ; "spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Help! > It's not paranoid, if they are REALLY out to get you!! > > On 6/6/07, Robert Duquette wrote: >> Maybe you're just paranoid? :) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net >> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Conn >> Sent: June 6, 2007 5:01 PM >> To: Brad Fornal >> Cc: spridgets >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Help! >> >> Brad, >> >> I've still not received anything from the List or Mark. I've tried >> re-applying for membership, but have heard nothing. I seem to be >> "locked >> out" so to speak. >> >> Are you receiving/sending e-mails in the usual way? >> >> Have you (or anyone else on the List) had a similar experience. If so, >> what did you do to get back on? >> >> Look forward to hearing from you. >> >> Michael >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Brad Fornal" >> To: "Michael Conn" >> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 9:33 PM >> Subject: Re: Help! >> >> >> > s'nuthin >> > >> > On 6/5/07, Michael Conn wrote: >> >> Brad, >> >> >> >> I'll give it a try. >> >> >> >> Thank you. >> >> >> >> Michael >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Brad Fornal" >> >> To: "Michael Conn" >> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 9:28 PM >> >> Subject: Re: Help! >> >> >> >> >> >> >I know that Mark has been working on a new system. Have you tried to >> >> > re-sub? I wonder if you were one of the few to fall through the >> >> > cracks? >> >> > >> >> > On 6/5/07, Michael Conn wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Brad, >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm not receiving any e-mails from the List. What's happening? >> >> >> What >> >> >> do >> >> >> I >> >> >> do? >> >> >> >> >> >> Michael >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad >> _______________________________________________ >> robertduquette at sympatico.ca >> >> Edit your replies >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> _______________________________________________ >> tequila.brad at gmail.com >> >> Edit your replies >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > > > -- > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From sprite58 at hotmail.com Wed Jun 6 10:45:53 2007 From: sprite58 at hotmail.com (r moses) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 11:45:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Confusing MM Calendar Message-ID: B-evans, Read this event announcement at Moss Motors last night. He mentions he enjoyed himself at .... (I remember attending the 1988 Sprite 30th Anniversary in Carlisle, PA. I had a blast even though I didnt even bring a car!) ..... the 30th AH Sprite Anniversary in Carlisle called SPRITE FEST '88. It was our SPRITE Newsletter's first event. Here was/is our progression of those every 5 year Meets: SpriteFest 88, SpriteBash 93, SpriteRush 98, SpriteSpree 03... & soon Sprite Jubilee 08. I am sure there will be a SpriteGasm in 2013, '18 and '23 Lord willing and if my health holds out. At MM he was hoping somebody would put together a Sprite Meet like the ones we have done BUT some place near to his location of the country. FEAR NOT! There is a Meet scheduled in June of 2008 in mid-USA in MO. Maybe it is closer to his home than Pennsylvania. It should be a great gathering from what I have heard and seen. Go to www.sprite-midgetclub.org for their web site and information. Back in 1988 I wanted to have a Sprite anniversary meet that had three locations at the same time. One here in the East, Mid-USA and on the West Coast. At that time there was nobody, to take the "BULL-BY-THE-HORNS," to be responsible for the other two locations and to help coordinate that venture. Sprite Jubilee 2008's web site is www.spritejubilee.org. It is being built now. Here is the promotional information about our latest gathering SPRITE Newsletter's Sprite Jubilee 2008. You may have already read this but here it is. If you need any more information about SJ08 you may contact me personally toll free nation-wide at 877-748-3165 (8SPRITE1MK) or my cell 717-379-5752. Hope this helps with any confusion, Rick Moses, Organizer SJ08 SPRITE JUBILEE 2008 Plans are well underway for what is likely to be the biggest-ever gathering of Sprites, at least since they went out of production in 1970. The event is the Sprite Jubilee to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the Austin-Healey Sprite cars, and it will be held in central Pennsylvania, near the city of Hershey, May 16-20, 2008. This event follows the tradition started almost 20 years ago now, when in 1988 we celebrated the Sprites 30th anniversary with Sprite Fest, followed by Sprite Bash in 1993, Sprite Rush in 1998, and Sprite Spree in 2003. According to the Global Austin-Healey Sprite Registry, of which I am Registrar, this location is within a short driving distance for literally hundreds and hundreds of Spridgets. Additionally, owners of ALL English cars are invited to Sprite Jubilee 2008. Special recognition and awards for all British cars participating will be made during the meet. The dates of the event run concurrently with the Carlisle Import-Kit/Replicar Nationals, which will be held from Friday May 16th through Sunday May 18th, in nearby Carlisle, Pennsylvania. Featured guests for Sprite Jubilee 2008 are John and Caryl Sprinzel and Gerry and Marian Coker. Stay tuned for details of this very special event, and in the meantime you can contact me, Rick Moses, the organizer, at spritejubilee at hotmail.com and in person at toll free at 8SPRITE1MK  which is (877)748-3165  during the week, or on my mobile phones on weekends (717) 379-5752 or (717) 379-5572. Plan now to attend this once-in-a-lifetime gathering of an automotive legend! Keep smiling, Rick Moses >From: b-evans at earthlink.net >To: Spridgets at autox.team.net, midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com, >bugeye at yahoogroups.comM >Subject: [Spridgets] Confusing MM Calendar >Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 09:54:31 -0700 > >I just received an e-mail from Mess Motors with a calendar of events for >2007. Confusingly, there was a "Club Event Announcements" with a >listing for " Sprite 50th Anniversarry >". >Unfortunately, as you scan the topic headings, none make it clear to >WHICH event it is referring! There are, after all, a myriad of events >throughout half of the world. > >_______________________________________________ >sprite58 at hotmail.com > >Edit your replies > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Play games, earn tickets, get cool prizes. Play nowit's FREE! http://club.live.com/home.aspx?icid=CLUB_hotmailtextlink1 From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Wed Jun 6 19:58:07 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 18:58:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Help! References: <000a01c7a7cd$56a35ef0$c334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757><000c01c7a7da$5d764690$c634ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <001e01c7a87d$d17591b0$1234ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <004801c7a8a7$4c307f40$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Hi Michael, Mark B is changing over to a new method, mailman, to handle the autox list. Mine is all straightened out now, but it was screwy for a bit. Seems to me there is also a different way to subscribe. As soon as I remember where the safe place is I put the indirections, I'll forward it. Unless someone else can tell you how to do it. Later, Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Conn" To: "Brad Fornal" Cc: "spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Help! > Brad, > > I've still not received anything from the List or Mark. I've tried > re-applying for membership, but have heard nothing. I seem to be "locked > out" so to speak. > > Are you receiving/sending e-mails in the usual way? > > Have you (or anyone else on the List) had a similar experience. If so, > what did you do to get back on? > > Look forward to hearing from you. > > Michael > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brad Fornal" > To: "Michael Conn" > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 9:33 PM > Subject: Re: Help! > > > > s'nuthin > > > > On 6/5/07, Michael Conn wrote: > >> Brad, > >> > >> I'll give it a try. > >> > >> Thank you. > >> > >> Michael > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Brad Fornal" > >> To: "Michael Conn" > >> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 9:28 PM > >> Subject: Re: Help! > >> > >> > >> >I know that Mark has been working on a new system. Have you tried to > >> > re-sub? I wonder if you were one of the few to fall through the > >> > cracks? > >> > > >> > On 6/5/07, Michael Conn wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Brad, > >> >> > >> >> I'm not receiving any e-mails from the List. What's happening? What > >> >> do > >> >> I > >> >> do? > >> >> > >> >> Michael > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wolf.brent at gmail.com Wed Jun 6 20:08:18 2007 From: wolf.brent at gmail.com (Brent Wolf) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 22:08:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Cool Tool In-Reply-To: <010c01c7a866$4b21def0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <01d401c7a861$5ccfba00$c409664c@HP> <62b83300706061101t6c9d5ba4xf21d605e84f1526d@mail.gmail.com> <010c01c7a866$4b21def0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <62b83300706061908u7322e9ddpd3a67b4b75d4837f@mail.gmail.com> On 6/6/07, David Lieb wrote: > > > WWW.McMaster.com page 2096 Bulk load > Grease/Oil > > guns. > > Bet mine was cheaper and yours will last longer ;-) > _______________________________________________ I don't know about that. I never said I bought that one either. I also got my from the local Marine supply. Don't remember what I paid, but it still works. Before that I always just used my cartridge grease gun. It was a little messy, but it worked. From mconn2 at bright.net Wed Jun 6 20:12:11 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 22:12:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster References: <4663AA6C.3060508@autox.team.net>, <002b01c7a6c9$6b4575a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <4663E48A.2474.D4E917@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <01c301c7a8a9$42f80b80$eaaeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> Dave, Margaret Thatcher wanted England to be the 51st State of the Union. (The queen just wants more money. queen Charles wants to make it to the throne. I'm sorry. I just can't spell "queen" with an upper case "q", "Land of hope and glory ..........".) Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G." To: "Spridget List" Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster > In some countries I have been in, it is considered to be impolite to > make a stranger unhappy or to give them un-welcome news.. > So when you ask "Can I get to XYZ from here? And is it far?" > The answer could be "Yes, it's just over the hill!" > When in fact you are going the wrong way and can never get there! > It's up to the next folks you meet to maybe tell you the truth and make > you un-happy... or let you figure it out yourself.. > > Dave G. > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mconn2 at bright.net Wed Jun 6 20:39:40 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 22:39:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Help! References: <000a01c7a7cd$56a35ef0$c334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757><000c01c7a7da$5d764690$c634ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <001e01c7a87d$d17591b0$1234ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <004801c7a8a7$4c307f40$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <021701c7a8ad$19f873b0$eaaeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> Paul, I'm okay now. Thank you. I've persuaded my anti-virus programme that the List is not a possible virus. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Asgeirsson" To: "Michael Conn" ; "Brad Fornal" Cc: "spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Help! > Hi Michael, > > Mark B is changing over to a new method, mailman, to handle the autox > list. > Mine is all straightened out now, but it was screwy for a bit. > > Seems to me there is also a different way to subscribe. As soon as I > remember where the safe place is I put the indirections, I'll forward it. > Unless someone else can tell you how to do it. > > Later, Paul A > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Conn" > To: "Brad Fornal" > Cc: "spridgets" > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 2:01 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Help! > > >> Brad, >> >> I've still not received anything from the List or Mark. I've tried >> re-applying for membership, but have heard nothing. I seem to be >> "locked >> out" so to speak. >> >> Are you receiving/sending e-mails in the usual way? >> >> Have you (or anyone else on the List) had a similar experience. If so, >> what did you do to get back on? >> >> Look forward to hearing from you. >> >> Michael >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Brad Fornal" >> To: "Michael Conn" >> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 9:33 PM >> Subject: Re: Help! >> >> >> > s'nuthin >> > >> > On 6/5/07, Michael Conn wrote: >> >> Brad, >> >> >> >> I'll give it a try. >> >> >> >> Thank you. >> >> >> >> Michael >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Brad Fornal" >> >> To: "Michael Conn" >> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 9:28 PM >> >> Subject: Re: Help! >> >> >> >> >> >> >I know that Mark has been working on a new system. Have you tried to >> >> > re-sub? I wonder if you were one of the few to fall through the >> >> > cracks? >> >> > >> >> > On 6/5/07, Michael Conn wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Brad, >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm not receiving any e-mails from the List. What's happening? > What >> >> >> do >> >> >> I >> >> >> do? >> >> >> >> >> >> Michael >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad >> _______________________________________________ >> pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net >> >> Edit your replies >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jun 6 20:45:39 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 22:45:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Only on this list Message-ID: <46677153.2050506@comcast.net> Once again a total stranger but another Spridgeteer has managed to help me out. My wife who is turning 50 in a couple weeks now has her dream car. A Jaguar S Type with a 5 speed but since this is a rare car (with a manual tranny) the one in the color she wants was in Utah. So I asked Andrew if he was close, he was, he test drove the car, said it was OK, and Diane is the new owner of a Jag S with a stick. I can't thank Drew enough for checking out the car for me. And unless there is anyone coming to Jersey with an empty trailer real soon, I am having the car shipped. It would be great if it's here on her birthday on 6/26 and so far it looks good. This is just one more reason why Spridget folks are the worlds best kind of people. Special thanks to Drew and these weird little cars that we all own. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jun 6 20:46:26 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 21:46:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help! References: <000a01c7a7cd$56a35ef0$c334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757><000c01c7a7da$5d764690$c634ffd8@YOURD28EB17757><001e01c7a87d$d17591b0$1234ffd8@YOURD28EB17757><004801c7a8a7$4c307f40$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <021701c7a8ad$19f873b0$eaaeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <033301c7a8ae$0b3ad790$0401a8c0@midget> > I've persuaded my anti-virus programme that the List is not a possible > virus. Now you are really in trouble! From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jun 6 20:48:26 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 22:48:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinning the herd Message-ID: <466771FA.3030402@comcast.net> I have way too many Spridgets and have to sell a couple. I have no place to store them, and driving a different one every day of the week is getting old ;) So if anybody wants a Spridget, email me. I have a few I have to get rid of. Red one, white one, green one, and a racer shell with no rust but some heavy mods to the rear body. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From fisher at hctc.net Wed Jun 6 20:52:27 2007 From: fisher at hctc.net (Fisher or Elizabeth Jones) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 21:52:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility? Message-ID: Given that this is a multi national membership, is it really necessary to make disparaging comments which quite definitely offend some members? I really appreciate all the side trips we take from time to time, just as much as the car talk, but I resent private opinions being aired, which decry my country or her people, or her monarchy. Just as some others object to American politics being discussed here. I'm sure others must feel the same way, but perhaps do not wish to speak. Sir, I am offended Elizabeth Jones Comfort, Texas. _________________________________________________________________ Fisher or Elizabeth Jones "A gentleman does not motor about after dark." Joseph Lucas 1920 From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Wed Jun 6 21:53:38 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 22:53:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help! References: <000a01c7a7cd$56a35ef0$c334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757><000c01c7a7da$5d764690$c634ffd8@YOURD28EB17757><001e01c7a87d$d17591b0$1234ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <004801c7a8a7$4c307f40$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <007701c7a8b7$6f3256c0$6501a8c0@actualshop> You mean like the last line in every List Post, Paul??? LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!! From wolf.brent at gmail.com Wed Jun 6 21:02:49 2007 From: wolf.brent at gmail.com (Brent Wolf) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 23:02:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Jaguar Question Message-ID: <62b83300706062002p26a8c291pf56074ba9fd65671@mail.gmail.com> Congratulations Frank. Speaking of Jaguars, I have recently seen an old Jag and the only markings on the car are on the back right - Mk IC. I have searched the net and can not find anything like it. It kind of looks like the 1960 MK2, however, I think it looks squattier - windows are not as large. and I think it looks wider than the MK2. Anyone have any idea??? Brent - wishing I had my camera with me. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jun 6 21:31:37 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 22:31:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Jaguar Question In-Reply-To: <62b83300706062002p26a8c291pf56074ba9fd65671@mail.gmail.com> References: <62b83300706062002p26a8c291pf56074ba9fd65671@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0706062031j1e563ect631f3d18028cf8ec@mail.gmail.com> There was a Mark I Jaguar Saloon beginning in about 1955 which was very popular with the British police all the way into the late 1960s. If I recall correctly it had a 4.2 Liter engine and went like stink. I never heard of a "C" marking on this model but it could be I suppose. Cheers!! Jim On 6/6/07, Brent Wolf wrote: > Congratulations Frank. > > Speaking of Jaguars, I have recently seen an old Jag and the only markings > on the car are on the back right - Mk IC. I have searched the net and can > not find anything like it. It kind of looks like the 1960 MK2, however, I > think it looks squattier - windows are not as large. and I think it looks > wider than the MK2. > > Anyone have any idea??? > > Brent - wishing I had my camera with me. > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- 1964 R60/2 BMW 1968 MG Midget 1976 R90/6 BMW 1990 K100LT BMW Thomas Huxley - "It is not who is right, but what is right, that is of importance." From wbmcleod at cox.net Wed Jun 6 21:42:12 2007 From: wbmcleod at cox.net (William McLeod) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 20:42:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Jaguar Question In-Reply-To: <62b83300706062002p26a8c291pf56074ba9fd65671@mail.gmail.com> References: <62b83300706062002p26a8c291pf56074ba9fd65671@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Try a Mark IX, or VIII. Google for an image. Regards, Bill On Jun 6, 2007, at 8:02 PM, Brent Wolf wrote: > Congratulations Frank. > > Speaking of Jaguars, I have recently seen an old Jag and the only > markings > on the car are on the back right - Mk IC. I have searched the net > and can > not find anything like it. It kind of looks like the 1960 MK2, > however, I > think it looks squattier - windows are not as large. and I think it > looks > wider than the MK2. > > Anyone have any idea??? > > Brent - wishing I had my camera with me. From wbmcleod at cox.net Wed Jun 6 21:56:44 2007 From: wbmcleod at cox.net (William McLeod) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 20:56:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Jaguar Question In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0706062031j1e563ect631f3d18028cf8ec@mail.gmail.com> References: <62b83300706062002p26a8c291pf56074ba9fd65671@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0706062031j1e563ect631f3d18028cf8ec@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5A129B3D-37C1-4F10-818A-BA064405C928@cox.net> Now that you mention it, there was a Mk I, and there was a competition (C) head for the 3.8 and perhaps other engines. They still run successfully in saloon races today.... Bill On Jun 6, 2007, at 8:31 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > There was a Mark I Jaguar Saloon beginning in about 1955 which was > very popular with the British police all the way into the late 1960s. > If I recall correctly it had a 4.2 Liter engine and went like stink. I > never heard of a "C" marking on this model but it could be I suppose. > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On 6/6/07, Brent Wolf wrote: >> Congratulations Frank. >> >> Speaking of Jaguars, I have recently seen an old Jag and the only >> markings >> on the car are on the back right - Mk IC. I have searched the net >> and can >> not find anything like it. It kind of looks like the 1960 MK2, >> however, I >> think it looks squattier - windows are not as large. and I think >> it looks >> wider than the MK2. >> >> Anyone have any idea??? >> >> Brent - wishing I had my camera with me. >> _______________________________________________ >> bmwwxman at gmail.com >> >> Edit your replies >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > > > -- > 1964 R60/2 BMW > 1968 MG Midget > 1976 R90/6 BMW > 1990 K100LT BMW > Thomas Huxley - "It is not who is right, but what is right, that is of > importance." > _______________________________________________ > wbmcleod at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jun 6 21:59:03 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 20:59:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Jaguar Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Try a Mark IX, or VIII. Those don't look much like a MK ll, though. I suppose the Mk 10 emblem could look like Mk lC, but those cars don't look like Mk ll's either. Maybe it's the owner's initials. BZ From dmg at bossig.com Wed Jun 6 22:03:03 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 21:03:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Jaguar Question In-Reply-To: References: <62b83300706062002p26a8c291pf56074ba9fd65671@mail.gmail.com>, Message-ID: <46672107.21159.E1CCF4@dmg.bossig.com> Mk IX (and Mk VII, Mk VIII) look like the "Grey Poupon" cars... I should know... I owned a MK IX for about 5 years... Bentley and Rolls of the '60's look similar Dave G. > Try a Mark IX, or VIII. Google for an image. From racerbob70 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 6 22:16:20 2007 From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 21:16:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Jaguar Question In-Reply-To: <5A129B3D-37C1-4F10-818A-BA064405C928@cox.net> Message-ID: <20070607041620.45295.qmail@web51602.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Bill, The MK 1s were 2.4 and 3.4 engines. The MK 2 was the first 3.8 offering. Bob --- William McLeod wrote: > Now that you mention it, there was a Mk I, and > there was a > competition (C) head for the 3.8 and perhaps other > engines. They > still run successfully in saloon races today.... > Bill > > On Jun 6, 2007, at 8:31 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > > > There was a Mark I Jaguar Saloon beginning in > about 1955 which was > > very popular with the British police all the way > into the late 1960s. > > If I recall correctly it had a 4.2 Liter engine > and went like stink. I > > never heard of a "C" marking on this model but it > could be I suppose. > > > > Cheers!! > > Jim > > > > On 6/6/07, Brent Wolf > wrote: > >> Congratulations Frank. > >> > >> Speaking of Jaguars, I have recently seen an old > Jag and the only > >> markings > >> on the car are on the back right - Mk IC. I have > searched the net > >> and can > >> not find anything like it. It kind of looks like > the 1960 MK2, > >> however, I > >> think it looks squattier - windows are not as > large. and I think > >> it looks > >> wider than the MK2. > >> > >> Anyone have any idea??? > >> > >> Brent - wishing I had my camera with me. > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz From mgraziano at austin.rr.com Wed Jun 6 22:40:31 2007 From: mgraziano at austin.rr.com (MGraziano) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 23:40:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Loss of brake pedal In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <06d801c7a8bd$fb857020$6701a8c0@andrometer> Hey all, I've been driving the hell out of the midget since its been on the road again. Yesterday, I took it for an 80 mile trip in 90 to 95 degree weather at sustained speeds of 60 to 70 mph. The car performed fine the whole trip, but towards the very end I had trouble with a gradually softening pedal for the brakes. It was going almost to the floor when I pulled up to the house. The MC is new. There's plenty of fluid in the reservoir. And the brakes are fine today. No issues whatsoever. Any thoughts on what might have been occurring, and how do I prevent it going forward? Tks, Mike '78 Midget From wolf.brent at gmail.com Wed Jun 6 22:49:26 2007 From: wolf.brent at gmail.com (Brent Wolf) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 00:49:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Jaguar Question In-Reply-To: References: <62b83300706062002p26a8c291pf56074ba9fd65671@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <62b83300706062149l79b7ea48s512316ec3d8c9326@mail.gmail.com> I was sent a link to a Jaguar 2.4 liter that was badged the Mk I in 1959. The photo looks like the car I saw, kind of hard to be sure, but it looks much closer than the Mk II does. Google led me to a site in Finland with a restore of a Mk I, the rear emblem looks the same except without the C. On 6/6/07, William McLeod wrote: > > Try a Mark IX, or VIII. Google for an image. > Regards, Bill From cartman at rcn.com Wed Jun 6 23:03:04 2007 From: cartman at rcn.com (Greg Gowins) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 00:03:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Loss of brake pedal In-Reply-To: <06d801c7a8bd$fb857020$6701a8c0@andrometer> References: <06d801c7a8bd$fb857020$6701a8c0@andrometer> Message-ID: <02da01c7a8c1$2280a840$7826a8c0@GREGXPPRO> Hi Mike, Sounds like a classic case of an air bubble in the circuit. There are a couple of possibilities. One is that after you got done driving, the air bubble rose to the top of the cylinder and popped. That is the best scenario, but usually isn't the case. The more likely scenario is that the air bubble sank, and is sitting somewhere in the system. The pedal going all the way to floor happens when the bubble is in the bore of the cylinder. There is a way to hook a vacuum up to the top of the master cylinder to pull out any air, but I'm a bit hazy on the specifics. I'm sure someone here on the list knows the steps to take. Greg Gowins '69 Sprite Driftwood, TX -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of MGraziano Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 11:41 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Loss of brake pedal Hey all, I've been driving the hell out of the midget since its been on the road again. Yesterday, I took it for an 80 mile trip in 90 to 95 degree weather at sustained speeds of 60 to 70 mph. The car performed fine the whole trip, but towards the very end I had trouble with a gradually softening pedal for the brakes. It was going almost to the floor when I pulled up to the house. The MC is new. There's plenty of fluid in the reservoir. And the brakes are fine today. No issues whatsoever. Any thoughts on what might have been occurring, and how do I prevent it going forward? Tks, Mike '78 Midget No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/834 - Release Date: 6/5/2007 2:38 PM From grday at btinternet.com Thu Jun 7 02:39:05 2007 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 09:39:05 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster References: <4663AA6C.3060508@autox.team.net>, <002b01c7a6c9$6b4575a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov><4663E48A.2474.D4E917@dmg.bossig.com> <01c301c7a8a9$42f80b80$eaaeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <007601c7a8df$4edfc650$8c578956@tairswork> Michael, It is no surprise that America is held in such high regard throughout the world with ambassadors such as Michael Conn. Please - put Spridgets back on your virus list. The USA will be happier without your diplomatic skills being stretched. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Conn" To: Cc: "spridgets" Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 3:12 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster > Dave, > > Margaret Thatcher wanted England to be the 51st State of the Union. (The > queen just wants more money. queen Charles wants to make it to the > throne. > I'm sorry. I just can't spell "queen" with an upper case "q", "Land of > hope and glory ..........".) > > Michael > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave G." > To: "Spridget List" > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 1:08 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster > > >> In some countries I have been in, it is considered to be impolite to >> make a stranger unhappy or to give them un-welcome news.. >> So when you ask "Can I get to XYZ from here? And is it far?" >> The answer could be "Yes, it's just over the hill!" >> When in fact you are going the wrong way and can never get there! >> It's up to the next folks you meet to maybe tell you the truth and make >> you un-happy... or let you figure it out yourself.. >> >> Dave G. >> _______________________________________________ >> mconn2 at bright.net >> >> Edit your replies >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > grday at btinternet.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From chris_west at juno.com Thu Jun 7 05:30:46 2007 From: chris_west at juno.com (Chris M West) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 07:30:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Loss of Brake Pedal Message-ID: <20070607.073047.2100.0.chris_west@juno.com> Mike wrote: Yesterday, I took it for an 80 mile trip in 90 to 95 degree weather at sustained speeds of 60 to 70 mph. The car performed fine the whole trip, but towards the very end I had trouble with a gradually softening pedal for the brakes. It was going almost to the floor when I pulled up to the house. The MC is new. There's plenty of fluid in the reservoir. And the brakes are fine today. No issues whatsoever. ================================================= Mike, I think the key clue is the high temperature both the air and in the engine compartment. How new is the brake fluid? If the system was not flushed when the master cylinder was replaced there is old fluid that has been absorbing moisture from the atmosphere since it was opened. The moisture will cause the boiling point of the fluid to be too low. At high temperature the water will boil and the steam created is compressible, leading to a low and / or spongy pedal. Once it cools, it condenses and the system operates as normal. Flush the system with NEW fluid from previously unopened containers. Chris AN5L35578 From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu Jun 7 07:14:04 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 09:14:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I would prefer to not limit ourselves to just the Chinese. Bashing Brits was a breath of fresh air. Look at all they've done to us! Inches, miles, gallons, an un-spellable language close to being official at the expense of the wonderfully phonetic Espaniolish. Not to mention these cars. A nation of blacksmiths competing with engineers! Perhaps we could benefit by broadening the barbs a bit more: I propose LITHUANIANS! We brew good beer, make good sausage, eat a lot of potatoes, and produce fairly good looking women. We also have upwards to 300,000 illegals living in the U.S. and are responsible for most of the auto theft in Germany. What's not to like? Chester Riley's buddy, Otto Schmidlap, claimed to be Lithuanian. Michael Conn might be a Lithuanian! -JohnD "Money trumps peace." - George W. Bush - February 14, 2007 -----Original Message----- From: Fisher or Elizabeth Jones [mailto:fisher at hctc.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 10:52 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Civility? Given that this is a multi national membership, is it really necessary to make disparaging comments which quite definitely offend some members? I really appreciate all the side trips we take from time to time, just as much as the car talk, but I resent private opinions being aired, which decry my country or her people, or her monarchy. Just as some others object to American politics being discussed here. I'm sure others must feel the same way, but perhaps do not wish to speak. Sir, I am offended Elizabeth Jones Comfort, Texas. _________________________________________________________________ Fisher or Elizabeth Jones "A gentleman does not motor about after dark." Joseph Lucas 1920 From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 08:07:47 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 09:07:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster In-Reply-To: <007601c7a8df$4edfc650$8c578956@tairswork> References: <4663AA6C.3060508@autox.team.net> <002b01c7a6c9$6b4575a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <4663E48A.2474.D4E917@dmg.bossig.com> <01c301c7a8a9$42f80b80$eaaeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> <007601c7a8df$4edfc650$8c578956@tairswork> Message-ID: <43840a7e0706070707i4aa40ff1s76a6d870a46eebb1@mail.gmail.com> Ummmm.... I thought I remembered Michael saying he is a Brit now living over here.... My, we all have sensitive skins at the moment... ;-) Cheers!! Jim On 6/7/07, Guy R Day wrote: > Michael, > > It is no surprise that America is held in such high regard throughout the > world with ambassadors such as Michael Conn. > > Please - put Spridgets back on your virus list. The USA will be happier > without your diplomatic skills being stretched. > > Guy R Day > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Conn" > To: > Cc: "spridgets" > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 3:12 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster > > > > Dave, > > > > Margaret Thatcher wanted England to be the 51st State of the Union. (The > > queen just wants more money. queen Charles wants to make it to the > > throne. > > I'm sorry. I just can't spell "queen" with an upper case "q", "Land of > > hope and glory ..........".) > > > > Michael > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dave G." > > To: "Spridget List" > > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 1:08 PM > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster > > > > > >> In some countries I have been in, it is considered to be impolite to > >> make a stranger unhappy or to give them un-welcome news.. > >> So when you ask "Can I get to XYZ from here? And is it far?" > >> The answer could be "Yes, it's just over the hill!" > >> When in fact you are going the wrong way and can never get there! > >> It's up to the next folks you meet to maybe tell you the truth and make > >> you un-happy... or let you figure it out yourself.. > >> > >> Dave G. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> mconn2 at bright.net > >> > >> Edit your replies > >> > >> http://www.team.net/archive > >> > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > _______________________________________________ > > grday at btinternet.com > > > > Edit your replies > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- 1964 R60/2 BMW 1968 MG Midget 1976 R90/6 BMW 1990 K100LT BMW Thomas Huxley - "It is not who is right, but what is right, that is of importance." From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 08:28:23 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 08:28:23 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Loss of brake pedal In-Reply-To: <06d801c7a8bd$fb857020$6701a8c0@andrometer> References: <06d801c7a8bd$fb857020$6701a8c0@andrometer> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706070728m16cecd9fm483d1946ca7eae85@mail.gmail.com> Leaky wheel cylinder? From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 08:30:36 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 08:30:36 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Loss of brake pedal In-Reply-To: <06d801c7a8bd$fb857020$6701a8c0@andrometer> References: <06d801c7a8bd$fb857020$6701a8c0@andrometer> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706070730w54361b46qb91daa0c1ab7376c@mail.gmail.com> Oh, and I almost forgot possible bad hose(s). Hoses sometimes turn themselves into a sort of check valve. What condition are the hoses in? They can look good on the outside and be bad on the inside. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 08:35:19 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 08:35:19 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706070735h5f22e8aem8229d51111fe6512@mail.gmail.com> I don't recall any bashing of Chinese people. It is the products that get bashed. They're cheap, and the Chinese people know it. They think Americans are silly because they see what is being exported to the US. Junk. Doesn't Austin Powers hate the Dutch? Can't we all just get along? From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 08:42:48 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 09:42:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility? In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706070735h5f22e8aem8229d51111fe6512@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910706070735h5f22e8aem8229d51111fe6512@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0706070742p261b1bbu159442637b83d52d@mail.gmail.com> On 6/7/07, derf wrote: > I don't recall any bashing of Chinese people. It is the products that > get bashed. They're cheap, and the Chinese people know it. They > think Americans are silly because they see what is being exported to > the US. Junk. > Doesn't Austin Powers hate the Dutch? > Can't we all just get along? In 1959 the Kingston Trio explained the entire problem. It is human nature. We *must* have someone to hate..... They're rioting in Africa, they're starving in Spain. There's hurricanes in Florida, and Texas needs rain. The whole world is festering with unhappy souls. The French hate the Germans, the Germans hate the Poles. Italians hate Yugoslavs, South Africans hate the Dutch. And I don't like anybody very much! But we can be tranquil, and thankful, and proud, For mans' been endowed with a mushroom-shaped cloud. And we know for certain that some lovely day Someone will set the spark off, and we will all be blown away. They're rioting in Africa, there's strife in Iran. What nature doesn't do to us, will be done by our fellow man. Cheers!! Jim - hating Jihaddists this week.... From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jun 7 08:52:55 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 10:52:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility? Message-ID: <20070607145255.YDMM875.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Get a long what? > From: derf > Can't we all just get along? From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Jun 7 09:00:24 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 10:00:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Loss of brake pedal In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706070730w54361b46qb91daa0c1ab7376c@mail.gmail.com> References: <06d801c7a8bd$fb857020$6701a8c0@andrometer> <5f00d9910706070730w54361b46qb91daa0c1ab7376c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: . see and i would say it sounds like boiling fluid. Older stuff with water contamination or just low boiling point fluid.. Lester On Jun 7, 2007, at 9:30 AM, derf wrote: > Oh, and I almost forgot possible bad hose(s). Hoses sometimes turn > themselves into a sort of check valve. What condition are the hoses > in? They can look good on the outside and be bad on the inside. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jun 7 09:01:18 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 10:01:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility? References: <5f00d9910706070735h5f22e8aem8229d51111fe6512@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0706070742p261b1bbu159442637b83d52d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <016601c7a914$b435c010$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > In 1959 the Kingston Trio explained the entire problem. It is human > nature. We *must* have someone to hate..... > > > They're rioting in Africa, they're starving in Spain. > There's hurricanes in Florida, and Texas needs rain. > The whole world is festering with unhappy souls. > The French hate the Germans, the Germans hate the Poles. > Italians hate Yugoslavs, South Africans hate the Dutch. > And I don't like anybody very much! I prefer the Charlotte Rae rendition myself. Or perhaps the ditty about "we're going to stamp out hate, poke it in the eye ..." I HATE intolerant people ;-) As you said, you cannot unite unless you are uniting against someone or something... Rather than Lithuanians, I would like to recommend the Brazilians as a suitable target. Sure they are good people with beautiful women, lovely beaches, great soccer players, beach volleyball, tangas, etc., but they are starting to export people at a pretty good clip. We could be ahead of the curve and start telling Brazilian jokes. As a card-carrying Brazilian, I promise not to get too offended. Just don't insult Pele'. Davi Lieb More humble than you are and proud of it From grday at btinternet.com Thu Jun 7 09:02:39 2007 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 16:02:39 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster References: <4663AA6C.3060508@autox.team.net> <002b01c7a6c9$6b4575a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <4663E48A.2474.D4E917@dmg.bossig.com> <01c301c7a8a9$42f80b80$eaaeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> <007601c7a8df$4edfc650$8c578956@tairswork> <43840a7e0706070707i4aa40ff1s76a6d870a46eebb1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000b01c7a914$e482b5c0$8c578956@tairswork> Only to such choice American ambassadors. By far the majority of Americans are great people who will receive every assistance. But when you prevaricate and disseminate such blatant and insidious verbiage a response is required. All the best, Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" To: "Guy R Day" Cc: "Michael Conn" ; ; "spridgets" Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster > Ummmm.... I thought I remembered Michael saying he is a Brit now > living over here.... > My, we all have sensitive skins at the moment... ;-) > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On 6/7/07, Guy R Day wrote: >> Michael, >> >> It is no surprise that America is held in such high regard throughout the >> world with ambassadors such as Michael Conn. >> >> Please - put Spridgets back on your virus list. The USA will be happier >> without your diplomatic skills being stretched. >> >> Guy R Day >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Michael Conn" >> To: >> Cc: "spridgets" >> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 3:12 AM >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster >> >> >> > Dave, >> > >> > Margaret Thatcher wanted England to be the 51st State of the Union. >> > (The >> > queen just wants more money. queen Charles wants to make it to the >> > throne. >> > I'm sorry. I just can't spell "queen" with an upper case "q", "Land >> > of >> > hope and glory ..........".) >> > >> > Michael >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Dave G." >> > To: "Spridget List" >> > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 1:08 PM >> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster >> > >> > >> >> In some countries I have been in, it is considered to be impolite to >> >> make a stranger unhappy or to give them un-welcome news.. >> >> So when you ask "Can I get to XYZ from here? And is it far?" >> >> The answer could be "Yes, it's just over the hill!" >> >> When in fact you are going the wrong way and can never get there! >> >> It's up to the next folks you meet to maybe tell you the truth and >> >> make >> >> you un-happy... or let you figure it out yourself.. >> >> >> >> Dave G. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> mconn2 at bright.net >> >> >> >> Edit your replies >> >> >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > _______________________________________________ >> > grday at btinternet.com >> > >> > Edit your replies >> > >> > http://www.team.net/archive >> > >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> _______________________________________________ >> bmwwxman at gmail.com >> >> Edit your replies >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > > > -- > 1964 R60/2 BMW > 1968 MG Midget > 1976 R90/6 BMW > 1990 K100LT BMW > Thomas Huxley - "It is not who is right, but what is right, that is of > importance." From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jun 7 09:07:16 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 10:07:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster References: <4663AA6C.3060508@autox.team.net><002b01c7a6c9$6b4575a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov><4663E48A.2474.D4E917@dmg.bossig.com><01c301c7a8a9$42f80b80$eaaeadd1@YOURD28EB17757><007601c7a8df$4edfc650$8c578956@tairswork><43840a7e0706070707i4aa40ff1s76a6d870a46eebb1@mail.gmail.com> <000b01c7a914$e482b5c0$8c578956@tairswork> Message-ID: <016f01c7a915$89b5d130$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > By far the majority of Americans are great people who will receive every > assistance. But when you prevaricate and disseminate such blatant and > insidious verbiage a response is required. It ain't us, Guy, it is one of yours and therefore he is allowed to do so ;-) Everybody should have the right to make fun of his own country, right? None of us USians woulda had the guts to say that... we are being trained in political correctness at all costs. BTW, I think you were a bit over-optimistic in your statistics... I am not so sure about the majority bit anymore. David Lieb From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jun 7 09:39:19 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 11:39:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility? Message-ID: <20070607153919.VABI6941.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> How many is a Brazilian? ( Sorry! ) > From: "David Lieb" > start telling Brazilian jokes. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 10:09:54 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 11:09:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility? In-Reply-To: <20070607153919.VABI6941.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20070607153919.VABI6941.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: I don't know, but I DO admire their skill with a razor and wax......... On 6/7/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > How many is a Brazilian? > > ( Sorry! ) > > > From: "David Lieb" > > > start telling Brazilian jokes. > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jun 7 10:13:56 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 12:13:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility? Message-ID: <20070607161356.YCBO13954.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Oh? What did they do to you? ;) > From: "Brad Fornal" > > I don't know, but I DO admire their skill with a razor and wax......... > > On 6/7/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > > How many is a Brazilian? > > > > ( Sorry! ) > > > > > From: "David Lieb" > > > > > start telling Brazilian jokes. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 10:25:49 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 11:25:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility? In-Reply-To: <20070607161356.YCBO13954.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20070607161356.YCBO13954.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: Not TO me, but it does something FOR me... On 6/7/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > Oh? What did they do to you? ;) > > > From: "Brad Fornal" > > > > I don't know, but I DO admire their skill with a razor and wax......... > > > > On 6/7/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > > > How many is a Brazilian? > > > > > > ( Sorry! ) > > > > > > > From: "David Lieb" > > > > > > > start telling Brazilian jokes. > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jun 7 10:46:39 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 12:46:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility? Message-ID: <20070607164639.PLDD25739.tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> To change the subject a bit . . . Does your Pathfinder's suspension work like this: http://www.chez106.com/images/jeffbrown/pathfinder.wmv > From: "Brad Fornal" > Date: 2007/06/07 Thu PM 12:25:49 EDT > To: "Robert Duquette" > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Civility? > > Not TO me, but it does something FOR me... > > On 6/7/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > > Oh? What did they do to you? ;) > > > > > From: "Brad Fornal" > > > > > > I don't know, but I DO admire their skill with a razor and wax......... > > > > > > On 6/7/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > > > > How many is a Brazilian? > > > > > > > > ( Sorry! ) > > > > > > > > > From: "David Lieb" > > > > > > > > > start telling Brazilian jokes. > > _______________________________________________ > > tequila.brad at gmail.com From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU Thu Jun 7 11:01:25 2007 From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 13:01:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? Message-ID: <8CFB8700-A97A-41E1-9F96-88273DA285C4@Dartmouth.EDU> Hello all, Sorry if some will see this twice as I sent this to the mgs list yesterday and today while trying to find why I didn't see it found this list which may be even more appropriate, so I thought I would introduce myself rather than just lurk. I recently purchased a '79 Midget - not really my favorite year, but a good one to start with as any I suppose. I drove Corvairs for about 10 years until I traded the last one in for my '41 741b Indian about 4 years ago. Unfortunately the Indian is down for what looks like the rest of the summer and well I wanted something fun to drive! I told my wife the Midget is safer than a motorcycle - well, at least with the Midget I am strapped into the projectile! The car has been in storage for the last six years or so, but handled nicely on the 70+ mile drive home and has minimal rust with the only rust through being two quarter sized holes at the bottom rear of the front wheel wells. I think first on the list is some front end and brake work. The brakes are a tad soft and (I think) a kingpin bushing(?) needs replaced on the front right as the bottom wheel can pull out about 1/8 an inch or so (the left is solid). It is my understanding that unlike a ball-joint the kingpin bushing replacement requires some 'fitting' (reaming?) that is best done by someone with the proper equipment - correct? Anyway, I am eager to learn and am certain I will have many questions similar to the above as I am not at all that familiar with British autos. Thanks and glad I found this list too! -m --- Mark Hanover, NH USA '41 741b '79 MG Midget 1500 '06 VW Passat TDI MythTV - for when I want to watch it. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 11:19:09 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 11:19:09 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? In-Reply-To: <8CFB8700-A97A-41E1-9F96-88273DA285C4@Dartmouth.EDU> References: <8CFB8700-A97A-41E1-9F96-88273DA285C4@Dartmouth.EDU> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706071019u5b8f24c8pc5fbd491c163df54@mail.gmail.com> You need rebuilt A-arms. Your kingpins are probably fine. The play is most likely in the a-arm trunnion. After you verify this, get a rebuilt a-arm or two. " A guy that does a nice job with Aframes is Eric Jones in Delaware Ohio (740) 363-2203" He is very reasonable price wise. Cheers, Derf From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Thu Jun 7 11:31:41 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 10:31:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? In-Reply-To: <8CFB8700-A97A-41E1-9F96-88273DA285C4@Dartmouth.EDU> References: <8CFB8700-A97A-41E1-9F96-88273DA285C4@Dartmouth.EDU> Message-ID: <1519ca38c91a34c06a31a6a.20070607103141.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Mark, Hello and welcome to the list. You already broke ettiquet by not telling us your preference in guns, cats and beer. If your wheel has 1/8th movement at the bottom and not the top it could be either the lower kingpin bushing or the fulcrum pin. Put the car on jack stands and get underneathit and see if there is any movement at the fulcrum pin. Also make sure the wheel is not moving top and bottom. Then I would suspect the bearings. In any case once you start taking it apart to see what is wrong you will probably want to just rebuild the whole front suspension. New bushings make a world of difference is the handling of the car. The list provides some excellent parts sources for your car, such as Peter Caldwell at NOS Imports and Ed at Just Brits. Don't forget Paul A when you put that 5 speed in your Meegit. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 2002 HD Heritage Springer Mark A. O'Neil > Hello all, > > Sorry if some will see this twice as I sent this to the mgs list > yesterday and today while trying to find why I didn't see it found > this list which may be even more appropriate, so I thought I would > introduce myself rather than just lurk. > > I recently purchased a '79 Midget - not really my favorite year, but > a good one to start with as any I suppose. > > I drove Corvairs for about 10 years until I traded the last one in > for my '41 741b Indian about 4 years ago. Unfortunately the Indian is > down for what looks like the rest of the summer and well I wanted > something fun to drive! > > I told my wife the Midget is safer than a motorcycle - well, at least > with the Midget I am strapped into the projectile! > > The car has been in storage for the last six years or so, but handled > nicely on the 70+ mile drive home and has minimal rust with the only > rust through being two quarter sized holes at the bottom rear of the > front wheel wells. > > I think first on the list is some front end and brake work. The > brakes are a tad soft and (I think) a kingpin bushing(?) needs > replaced on the front right as the bottom wheel can pull out about > 1/8 an inch or so (the left is solid). > > It is my understanding that unlike a ball-joint the kingpin bushing > replacement requires some 'fitting' (reaming?) that is best done by > someone with the proper equipment - correct? > > Anyway, I am eager to learn and am certain I will have many questions > similar to the above as I am not at all that familiar with British > autos. > > Thanks and glad I found this list too! > > -m > > --- > > Mark > Hanover, NH USA > > '41 741b > '79 MG Midget 1500 > '06 VW Passat TDI > MythTV - for when I want to watch it. > _______________________________________________ > rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Thu Jun 7 11:31:59 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 10:31:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? Message-ID: <1e5d4a51b73a4be92a4772a.20070607103159.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Mark, Hello and welcome to the list. You already broke ettiquet by not telling us your preference in guns, cats and beer. If your wheel has 1/8th movement at the bottom and not the top it could be either the lower kingpin bushing or the fulcrum pin. Put the car on jack stands and get underneathit and see if there is any movement at the fulcrum pin. Also make sure the wheel is not moving top and bottom. Then I would suspect the bearings. In any case once you start taking it apart to see what is wrong you will probably want to just rebuild the whole front suspension. New bushings make a world of difference is the handling of the car. The list provides some excellent parts sources for your car, such as Peter Caldwell at NOS Imports and Ed at Just Brits. Don't forget Paul A when you put that 5 speed in your Meegit. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 2002 HD Heritage Springer Mark A. O'Neil > Hello all, > > Sorry if some will see this twice as I sent this to the mgs list > yesterday and today while trying to find why I didn't see it found > this list which may be even more appropriate, so I thought I would > introduce myself rather than just lurk. > > I recently purchased a '79 Midget - not really my favorite year, but > a good one to start with as any I suppose. > > I drove Corvairs for about 10 years until I traded the last one in > for my '41 741b Indian about 4 years ago. Unfortunately the Indian is > down for what looks like the rest of the summer and well I wanted > something fun to drive! > > I told my wife the Midget is safer than a motorcycle - well, at least > with the Midget I am strapped into the projectile! > > The car has been in storage for the last six years or so, but handled > nicely on the 70+ mile drive home and has minimal rust with the only > rust through being two quarter sized holes at the bottom rear of the > front wheel wells. > > I think first on the list is some front end and brake work. The > brakes are a tad soft and (I think) a kingpin bushing(?) needs > replaced on the front right as the bottom wheel can pull out about > 1/8 an inch or so (the left is solid). > > It is my understanding that unlike a ball-joint the kingpin bushing > replacement requires some 'fitting' (reaming?) that is best done by > someone with the proper equipment - correct? > > Anyway, I am eager to learn and am certain I will have many questions > similar to the above as I am not at all that familiar with British > autos. > > Thanks and glad I found this list too! > > -m > > --- > > Mark > Hanover, NH USA > > '41 741b > '79 MG Midget 1500 > '06 VW Passat TDI > MythTV - for when I want to watch it. From fisher at hctc.net Thu Jun 7 11:31:51 2007 From: fisher at hctc.net (Fisher or Elizabeth Jones) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 12:31:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility ? Message-ID: It seems to me that my point is being missed, intentionally or otherwise. If a comment is made by anyone, American or otherwise, about American politicians for example, someone will immediately ask that it be taken off-list. We all have our own opinions, are entitled to them, but do not necessarily have to share them with the world. We can all be offended by something, we all have our own pet issues, but it doesn't help to have one's firmly held beliefs or opinions treated with disdain. It matters not to me the nationality of the disparager, I'd prefer not to see it done in this forum. Most Americans understand patriotism, all I ask is that we extend a courtesy to other nations, and don't demean their icons, real or imagined. elizabeth Jones _________________________________________________________________ Fisher or Elizabeth Jones "A gentleman does not motor about after dark." Joseph Lucas 1920 From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jun 7 11:36:08 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 12:36:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706071019u5b8f24c8pc5fbd491c163df54@mail.gmail.co m> References: <8CFB8700-A97A-41E1-9F96-88273DA285C4@Dartmouth.EDU> <5f00d9910706071019u5b8f24c8pc5fbd491c163df54@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070607123433.033925a8@nosimport.com> He's very reasonable otherwise, too! Moss Motor's catalog has a good write-up on diagnosing the problem better. Eric will help you, too. Peter ======== At 12:19 PM 6/7/2007, derf wrote: >You need rebuilt A-arms. Your kingpins are probably fine. The play >is most likely in the a-arm trunnion. After you verify this, get a >rebuilt a-arm or two. > > " A guy that does a nice job with Aframes is Eric Jones in >Delaware Ohio (740) 363-2203" > >He is very reasonable price wise. >Cheers, >Derf From hal at katemuir.com Thu Jun 7 11:45:10 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 10:45:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? In-Reply-To: <8CFB8700-A97A-41E1-9F96-88273DA285C4@Dartmouth.EDU> Message-ID: Mark, Welcome aboard. You will find some quirkiness on this list, so get over it. The first thing I would check on your front end are the two inner A-arm bushings. They are at the inner end of the control arm and are (in stock form) what is called "metalastic": Rubber around a metal core. These are the first things to go, especially if they are tightened up with the suspension at drop. Much easier and less expensive than the king pin bushings (there seem to be only available in sets for both sides with new king pins.) And yes, they do require a special reamer to install them correctly. We have several list mrmbers who can supply you with what you need: Peter at WW imports of Madison, Ed of Just Brits, and Paul at Morrisservice all come to mind. TRY THEM FIRST. Now to the imortand bits: 1. Guns 2. Cats. 3. Merchandise from Asia. 4. Should we impeach (insert name of politician here.) Hal From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jun 7 11:49:03 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 12:49:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] "Don't need a weatherman....." no LBC Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070607124036.01b13508@mailbag.com> Wow, we got a storm brewing up here in Westconsin. Wind blowing from the South steady at 30MPH, gusting to 45. Weatherperson said this AM "Scattered tornadoes." Jeeeez... I HOPE they're scattered. They cancelled the Special Olympics tonight. (There's a joke there somplace.) Anyway...... we're just Blowin' in the Wind Peter C From Daniel1312 at aol.com Thu Jun 7 12:03:38 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 14:03:38 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Civility ? Message-ID: Well I'm not a royalist and not much offends me. Daniel1312 - England In a message dated 07/06/07 18:32:41 GMT Daylight Time, fisher at hctc.net writes: > Most Americans understand patriotism, all I ask is that we extend a > courtesy to other nations, and don't demean their icons, real or > imagined. > elizabeth Jones From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 12:04:10 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 13:04:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] "Don't need a weatherman....." no LBC In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070607124036.01b13508@mailbag.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070607124036.01b13508@mailbag.com> Message-ID: How's THIS punchline? At least now, you won't have to drive in the bad weather. J/K LOL On 6/7/07, Peter C wrote: > They cancelled the Special Olympics tonight. (There's a joke there somplace.) From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Jun 7 12:09:33 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 13:09:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New list stuff.. In-Reply-To: <8CFB8700-A97A-41E1-9F96-88273DA285C4@Dartmouth.EDU> References: <8CFB8700-A97A-41E1-9F96-88273DA285C4@Dartmouth.EDU> Message-ID: Ok, I went to the mail list and changed it so that I don't get duplicates "globally".. and now I get triplicates. Well mostly just duplicates.. arrgghh.. Lester From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jun 7 12:13:06 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 14:13:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] New list stuff.. Message-ID: <20070607181307.HAG5730.tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Be careful what you ask for!!! :) > From: oldsaabguy > > Ok, I went to the mail list and changed it so that I don't get > duplicates "globally".. and now I get triplicates. Well mostly just > duplicates.. arrgghh.. > > Lester From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Jun 7 12:13:59 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 11:13:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > not much offends me I take exception to you ambivalence. You sound like a troublemaker. BZ From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Thu Jun 7 12:15:41 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 13:15:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] "Don't need a weatherman....." no LBC In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070607124036.01b13508@mailbag.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070607124036.01b13508@mailbag.com> Message-ID: yeah-of all the days I had a window to drag the Sprite to my garage finally. I will not park my grocery getter in the hail this evening if all haeck breaks loose like they say. I think I caused this though...I rolled the Sprite out into sunlight for the first time in 19 years. Kind of like that scene in Raiders of the Lost Arc. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter C Date: Thursday, June 7, 2007 12:49 pm Subject: [Spridgets] "Don't need a weatherman....." no LBC To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Wow, we got a storm brewing up here in Westconsin. Wind blowing > from > the South steady at 30MPH, gusting to 45. > > Weatherperson said this AM "Scattered tornadoes." > > Jeeeez... I HOPE they're scattered. > > They cancelled the Special Olympics tonight. (There's a joke there > somplace.) > Anyway...... we're just Blowin' in the Wind > > > Peter C From shelden3 at pldi.net Thu Jun 7 12:33:21 2007 From: shelden3 at pldi.net (charlie shelden) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 13:33:21 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 'Don't need a weatherman.....' no LBC In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070607124036.01b13508@mailbag.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070607124036.01b13508@mailbag.com> Message-ID: <45230.164.58.184.10.1181241201.squirrel@164.58.184.10> > Wow, we got a storm brewing up here in Westconsin. Wind blowing from > the South steady at 30MPH, gusting to 45. > Jim, Brad? Sounds like a normal day in Kansas and Texas huh? FUn times indeed. Charlie From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jun 7 12:35:31 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 13:35:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 'Don't need a weatherman.....' no LBC References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070607124036.01b13508@mailbag.com> <45230.164.58.184.10.1181241201.squirrel@164.58.184.10> Message-ID: <01a101c7a932$a18cb2c0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >> Wow, we got a storm brewing up here in Westconsin. Wind blowing from >> the South steady at 30MPH, gusting to 45. And today was the day I had to take someone up on the roof of Village Hall and the Police Department. Go figure. From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU Thu Jun 7 12:40:01 2007 From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 14:40:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Jun 7, 2007, at 1:45 PM, Hal Faulkner wrote: > Now to the imortand bits: > 1. Guns > 2. Cats. > 3. Merchandise from Asia. > 4. Should we impeach (insert name of politician here.) ;-) 1. Guns - I don't own any, and though it has been awhile, I do enjoy a bit of skeet shooting and 9mm glock/Colt 1911 target range practice now and again and it has been years since I have gone hunting of any form. 2. Cats - here-nor-there - I don't bother them if they don't bother me 3. MfA - quality can come from anywhere - my Washburn semi-hollow guitar came from overseas...just don't buy cheap stuff?!? 4. politicians - impeach 'em all - the fall of the Roman Empire began when they started paying folks to be politicians... and the best for last... BEER - I like most all of it ('real' beer that is) with Guinness, Smithwicks, Old Peculiar, and Unibroue brews topping of the list...gotta have a good whisky on hand too though. Thanks for the vender pointers and the bits to look at on the front end. I ordered a few books which should arrive soon: MG Sprite/Midget Glove Box Workshop Manual 1958-80 MG Midget, Austin Healey and Sprite Restoration Manual (Restoration Manuals)" MG Midget, Austin-Healey Sprite, 1958-1980 (Haynes Manuals)" oh and The Dangerous Book for Boys ( just to see how much of it I have already done! ) looking forward to some weekend reading! Thanks! -m "Whisky will cure most anything, but it won't cure stupid." From Daniel1312 at aol.com Thu Jun 7 12:42:07 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 14:42:07 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? Message-ID: Apparently the US version is not as good as the original British version - at last what I read in the papers over here. Daniel1312 In a message dated 07/06/07 19:40:42 GMT Daylight Time, mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU writes: > The Dangerous Book for Boys ( just to see how much of it I have > already done! ) From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net Thu Jun 7 14:02:44 2007 From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (Richard Feibusch) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 12:02:44 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility? Message-ID: Hey Guys, Why stop at that old Kingston Trio ditty - How about Tom Leher's "National Brotherhood Week" from the same era or Randy Newman's "Let's Drop The Big One (and see what happens)" from a few years later ......... And what about my guns! Them's fightin' words - I gots a British Enfield rifle like the one my dad learnt on as part of a tank crew under Patton in WWII. No, it doesn't leak oil! Rick Feibusch Venice Beach, CA From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu Jun 7 13:04:02 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 15:04:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? In-Reply-To: <8CFB8700-A97A-41E1-9F96-88273DA285C4@Dartmouth.EDU> References: <8CFB8700-A97A-41E1-9F96-88273DA285C4@Dartmouth.EDU> Message-ID: Mark: So far, our list of itinerant Spridget gurus have covered about everything in the front suspension but sagging coil springs. Take the whole front end apart-- do a google search and you'll find some step-by-step instructions, or just look at the blow-up in the Moss Motors catalog. It's quite simple and will not take long. When you have the whole thing in pieces, it will be easy to see what's junk and what's still okay. (Remember, it was built by a company sinking in red ink, so "quality" was not Job One). The recommended vendors are the best place to start even though they are not in your corner of the country. Customer serviced and product knowledge are worth something and their prices are the same or lower than the "usual suspects" in the British parts trade. Plus, they are part of our family. While your ate it, check the front shocks. They are probably shot too. (Bounce the car before you disassemble the font end). Try to refill them at least once, but when you tire of that, send them to World Wide Auto Parts (Peter the Parts Pimp), who is the ONLY GAME IN TOWN for lever shocks, despite what ads you may see in Hemmings. Finally, be sure to chock the rear wheels before jacking the front end. Cats are the preferred tool. JohnD -----Original Message----- From: Mark A. O'Neil [mailto:mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU] Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 1:01 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? Hello all, Sorry if some will see this twice as I sent this to the mgs list yesterday and today while trying to find why I didn't see it found this list which may be even more appropriate, so I thought I would introduce myself rather than just lurk. I recently purchased a '79 Midget - not really my favorite year, but a good one to start with as any I suppose. I drove Corvairs for about 10 years until I traded the last one in for my '41 741b Indian about 4 years ago. Unfortunately the Indian is down for what looks like the rest of the summer and well I wanted something fun to drive! I told my wife the Midget is safer than a motorcycle - well, at least with the Midget I am strapped into the projectile! The car has been in storage for the last six years or so, but handled nicely on the 70+ mile drive home and has minimal rust with the only rust through being two quarter sized holes at the bottom rear of the front wheel wells. I think first on the list is some front end and brake work. The brakes are a tad soft and (I think) a kingpin bushing(?) needs replaced on the front right as the bottom wheel can pull out about 1/8 an inch or so (the left is solid). It is my understanding that unlike a ball-joint the kingpin bushing replacement requires some 'fitting' (reaming?) that is best done by someone with the proper equipment - correct? Anyway, I am eager to learn and am certain I will have many questions similar to the above as I am not at all that familiar with British autos. Thanks and glad I found this list too! -m --- Mark Hanover, NH USA '41 741b '79 MG Midget 1500 '06 VW Passat TDI MythTV - for when I want to watch it. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Jun 7 13:09:13 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 14:09:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3AECF82D-3230-4EB1-A912-6E2E698FA084@comcast.net> .. or "We got the bomb and that was good 'cause we love peace and brotherhood" Tom Leherer.. did you hear the preamble to national brotherhood week when he talks about assasinations and wars ?? ;-) Lester On Jun 7, 2007, at 3:02 PM, Richard Feibusch wrote: > Hey Guys, > > Why stop at that old Kingston Trio ditty - How about Tom Leher's > "National Brotherhood Week" from the same era or Randy Newman's > "Let's Drop The Big One (and see what happens)" from a few years > later ......... > > And what about my guns! Them's fightin' words - I gots a British > Enfield rifle like the one my dad learnt on as part of a tank crew > under Patton in WWII. No, it doesn't leak oil! > > Rick Feibusch > Venice Beach, CA From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Thu Jun 7 13:09:22 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 12:09:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3498a8d8aa837ca7bca.20070607120922.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Mark, You fit in here just fine. One point though. A old ancient world history professor told me the beginning of the end of every major civilization was giving women rights. Flame suit on.... Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 2002 HD Heritage Springer Mark A. O'Neil > On Jun 7, 2007, at 1:45 PM, Hal Faulkner wrote: > >> Now to the imortand bits: >> 1. Guns >> 2. Cats. >> 3. Merchandise from Asia. >> 4. Should we impeach (insert name of politician here.) > > ;-) > > 1. Guns - I don't own any, and though it has been awhile, I do enjoy > a bit of skeet shooting and 9mm glock/Colt 1911 target range practice > now and again and it has been years since I have gone hunting of any > form. > 2. Cats - here-nor-there - I don't bother them if they don't bother me > 3. MfA - quality can come from anywhere - my Washburn semi-hollow > guitar came from overseas...just don't buy cheap stuff?!? > 4. politicians - impeach 'em all - the fall of the Roman Empire began > when they started paying folks to be politicians... From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jun 7 12:32:35 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 14:32:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] "Don't need a weatherman....." no LBC Message-ID: <20070607183235.ICUP23861.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> 19 years?! There's got to be more of a story than that!! It's not a "I may as well paint the engine bay while I'm at it" story, is it? > > From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com > > yeah-of all the days I had a window to drag the Sprite to my garage > finally. I will not park my grocery getter in the hail this evening > if all haeck breaks loose like they say. > > I think I caused this though...I rolled the Sprite out into sunlight for > the first time in 19 years. Kind of like that scene in Raiders of the > Lost Arc. > > Chris From grday at btinternet.com Thu Jun 7 13:22:31 2007 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 20:22:31 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster References: <4663AA6C.3060508@autox.team.net><002b01c7a6c9$6b4575a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov><4663E48A.2474.D4E917@dmg.bossig.com><01c301c7a8a9$42f80b80$eaaeadd1@YOURD28EB17757><007601c7a8df$4edfc650$8c578956@tairswork><43840a7e0706070707i4aa40ff1s76a6d870a46eebb1@mail.gmail.com><000b01c7a914$e482b5c0$8c578956@tairswork> <016f01c7a915$89b5d130$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <004501c7a939$31df0d40$8c578956@tairswork> If the cause of this flurry is one of ours I would like to offer my apologies to all who were concerned and to those of from the USA whom I may have offended. I'll have to get my bloodhound on the job and teach him that a sentence should always start with an upper case letter. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridget List" Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster >> By far the majority of Americans are great people who will receive every >> assistance. But when you prevaricate and disseminate such blatant and >> insidious verbiage a response is required. > > It ain't us, Guy, it is one of yours and therefore he is allowed to do so > ;-) > Everybody should have the right to make fun of his own country, right? > None of us USians woulda had the guts to say that... we are being trained > in political correctness at all costs. > BTW, I think you were a bit over-optimistic in your statistics... I am not > so sure about the majority bit anymore. > David Lieb > _______________________________________________ > grday at btinternet.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From cfchrist at earthlink.net Thu Jun 7 13:23:08 2007 From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (Charles Christ) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 15:23:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? Message-ID: <410-2200764719238685@earthlink.net> welcome to the craziest ship in da navy! i'm willing to say you have entered one of the most experienced group of owners of these cars i'm aware of. if it can be broke and repaired or replaced or modified at least one person here has done "what ever" it is you'll need to ask about! genuine good people , advice and other wierd stuff is frequented here ...and often! (brad , you have any more of yer home made pickled ocra? can't find it here!) ;) me? LOL! i'm a fossil! i've owned my same bugeye for 33 years. i love the car and will own it untill i can no longer drive it! crazy? me? heck yeah! ask a few local fellow "O.S.H.I.T." members! WELCOME TO DA CLUB! not the lock yer steering wheel thingy they sold years ago on tv! dis club! by the way cool scooter! i have cut my scooters down to twn fer now! i have 2 "LBC's " and 2"scooters". (and some really wierd other stuff! ask lester! chuck BTW , i have a friend who vintage races a yenko stinger! ;) > [Original Message] > From: Mark A. O'Neil > To: > Date: 6/7/2007 1:01:59 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? > > Hello all, > > Sorry if some will see this twice as I sent this to the mgs list > yesterday and today while trying to find why I didn't see it found > this list which may be even more appropriate, so I thought I would > introduce myself rather than just lurk. > > I recently purchased a '79 Midget - not really my favorite year, but > a good one to start with as any I suppose. > > I drove Corvairs for about 10 years until I traded the last one in > for my '41 741b Indian about 4 years ago. Unfortunately the Indian is > down for what looks like the rest of the summer and well I wanted > something fun to drive! > > I told my wife the Midget is safer than a motorcycle - well, at least > with the Midget I am strapped into the projectile! > > The car has been in storage for the last six years or so, but handled > nicely on the 70+ mile drive home and has minimal rust with the only > rust through being two quarter sized holes at the bottom rear of the > front wheel wells. > > I think first on the list is some front end and brake work. The > brakes are a tad soft and (I think) a kingpin bushing(?) needs > replaced on the front right as the bottom wheel can pull out about > 1/8 an inch or so (the left is solid). > > It is my understanding that unlike a ball-joint the kingpin bushing > replacement requires some 'fitting' (reaming?) that is best done by > someone with the proper equipment - correct? > > Anyway, I am eager to learn and am certain I will have many questions > similar to the above as I am not at all that familiar with British > autos. > > Thanks and glad I found this list too! > > -m > > --- > > Mark > Hanover, NH USA From cfchrist at earthlink.net Thu Jun 7 13:28:35 2007 From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (Charles Christ) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 15:28:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility? Message-ID: <410-22007647192835654@earthlink.net> WAIT ONE MINUTE! is that the randy newman "we'll all go together when we go"? (oops wrong artist!) along the lines of "poisoning pidgeons in the park"??????? DARN IT! who did "champagne charlie" & "small(what ever) got shot by his own 38"?? was that leon redbone? (sorry but old obscure vynal is in my home...) chuck > [Original Message] > From: > To: > Date: 6/7/2007 3:02:23 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Civility? > > Hey Guys, > > Why stop at that old Kingston Trio ditty - How about Tom Leher's "National Brotherhood Week" from the same era or Randy Newman's "Let's Drop The Big One (and see what happens)" from a few years later ......... > > And what about my guns! Them's fightin' words - I gots a British Enfield rifle like the one my dad learnt on as part of a tank crew under Patton in WWII. No, it doesn't leak oil! > > Rick Feibusch > Venice Beach, CA From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Thu Jun 7 13:33:24 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 14:33:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] "Don't need a weatherman....." no LBC In-Reply-To: <20070607183235.ICUP23861.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20070607183235.ICUP23861.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: Kind of the usual...a couple bought the car and drove it 21 years ago and decided to restore it in their heated garage. A year or so later after partial dissasembly, things went sour in their personal lives-don't know, don't want to know, hope the damn thing isn't cursed. I've known of it for 6 years. They finally found the title, and got both signatures, go game on. I'm still sorting through boxes and bags of parts. I think most are there. The previous owner did sort things well, but most things were labeled with masking tape. I'll through a web page together when it gets dropped off. Although many of you are extremely inspiring, I do not think it will debut at the Sussex show this year... Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Duquette Date: Thursday, June 7, 2007 2:18 pm Subject: Re: [Spridgets] "Don't need a weatherman....." no LBC To: spridgets at autox.team.net > 19 years?! > > There's got to be more of a story than that!! It's not a "I may as > well paint the engine bay while I'm at it" story, is it? > > > > > > From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com > > > > yeah-of all the days I had a window to drag the Sprite to my garage > > finally. I will not park my grocery getter in the hail this > evening> if all haeck breaks loose like they say. > > > > I think I caused this though...I rolled the Sprite out into > sunlight for > > the first time in 19 years. Kind of like that scene in Raiders > of the > > Lost Arc. > > > > Chris From cfchrist at earthlink.net Thu Jun 7 13:33:28 2007 From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (Charles Christ) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 15:33:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility? Message-ID: <410-22007647193328810@earthlink.net> dat be da dude! tom! LOL! lester! funny big time! chuck > [Original Message] > From: oldsaabguy > Cc: > Date: 6/7/2007 3:09:15 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Civility? > > .. or "We got the bomb and that was good 'cause we love peace and > brotherhood" > > Tom Leherer.. did you hear the preamble to national brotherhood week > when he talks about assasinations and wars ?? ;-) > > Lester From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 13:37:50 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 13:37:50 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility? In-Reply-To: <410-22007647192835654@earthlink.net> References: <410-22007647192835654@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706071237x5d33b40dw4635721aa129c02d@mail.gmail.com> No, no, it is the Randy Newman who did "Short People (Got No Reason To Live)" and later did a good job on the "Toy Story" soundtrack. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 13:54:24 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 13:54:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] How Not To Be Offended Message-ID: <5f00d9910706071254r1a979049ge9f1932398b7c939@mail.gmail.com> How not to be offended: Search the spridgets at autox.team.net archives for "Delete Key". This topic has been covered in detail many times. Also, there is the "Don't Click" method. When the email heading pops up and you see nothing of interest in the heading, don't click on it. It won't open. I have yet to see a self-extracting email from team.net. Get over it. Maybe if we send all our cats to Asia, they will be happier and make better stuff for us? I hear they taste like chicken. (Cats, not Asians) How about that 2nd Amendment? That reminds me I need to re-load some blanks for my cannon. Lets hope Hillary and Obama get the nomination. Rudy, Rudy, Rudy. My Miata is better than your Spridget. Last but not least, you play ball like a girl! This one is losing its effectiveness. My mens recreational basketball team, average age about 48, practices with a girls AAU (high school age) team. We beat em in scrimmages, but it isn't easy. It this mailing list stuck to only pure spridget topics what a wonderfully dull list it would be. No one drafted you into this list. If you can't take some off topic content then this isn't the list for you. This is one of THE best mailing lists ever. The people make it good. The character of the people make it great. Use your delete key and don't be a whining jackass. Cheers, Derf From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 14:00:24 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 15:00:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? In-Reply-To: <410-2200764719238685@earthlink.net> References: <410-2200764719238685@earthlink.net> Message-ID: If you'd like, I can see if Martha is ever planning on making more. I can't believe you can't find it there, it should be on the same aisle as the regular pickles. Brad On 6/7/07, Charles Christ wrote: > (brad , you have any more of yer home made pickled ocra? can't find it > here!) ;) From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Thu Jun 7 14:04:33 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 13:04:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] How Not To Be Offended In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706071254r1a979049ge9f1932398b7c939@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910706071254r1a979049ge9f1932398b7c939@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2310a5e5ca57a8a528a.20070607130433.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> derf > How about that 2nd Amendment? That reminds me I need to re-load some > blanks for my cannon. Oooooooh, you have a cannon? I wanna play! Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 2002 HD Heritage Springer From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Jun 7 14:08:08 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 15:08:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] How Not To Be Offended In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706071254r1a979049ge9f1932398b7c939@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910706071254r1a979049ge9f1932398b7c939@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Now wait one damn minute... why only blanks for the cannon??? Lester On Jun 7, 2007, at 2:54 PM, derf wrote: > How not to be offended: > > Search the spridgets at autox.team.net archives for "Delete Key". This > topic has been covered in detail many times.\ snip > > How about that 2nd Amendment? That reminds me I need to re-load some > blanks for my cannon. snip > Cheers, > Derf From Daniel1312 at aol.com Thu Jun 7 14:59:04 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 16:59:04 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Ride height Message-ID: Hi list, I'm interested in what the stock ride height is for both a stock 1500 Midget and any of the earlier cars (I'm expecting them all to be about the same). I'd like the ride height measurement to be from the bottom of the sill (from the face of the sill rather than underneath it) to the floor/road surface. Thanks Daniel1312 From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 15:09:31 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 16:09:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster In-Reply-To: <004501c7a939$31df0d40$8c578956@tairswork> References: <4663AA6C.3060508@autox.team.net> <002b01c7a6c9$6b4575a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <4663E48A.2474.D4E917@dmg.bossig.com> <01c301c7a8a9$42f80b80$eaaeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> <007601c7a8df$4edfc650$8c578956@tairswork> <43840a7e0706070707i4aa40ff1s76a6d870a46eebb1@mail.gmail.com> <000b01c7a914$e482b5c0$8c578956@tairswork> <016f01c7a915$89b5d130$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <004501c7a939$31df0d40$8c578956@tairswork> Message-ID: <43840a7e0706071409w3606f216yb38a5cddd0647e06@mail.gmail.com> It's cool, Guy. As penance, post some spotted dick to those who offend [:-) Cheers!! Jim On 6/7/07, Guy R Day wrote: > If the cause of this flurry is one of ours I would like to offer my > apologies to all who were concerned and to those of from the USA whom I may > have offended. > > I'll have to get my bloodhound on the job and teach him that a sentence > should always start with an upper case letter. > > Guy R Day From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 7 15:12:04 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 16:12:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] "Don't need a weatherman....." no LBC References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070607124036.01b13508@mailbag.com> Message-ID: <02b401c7a948$80e502a0$6401a8c0@Larry> Way to go Chris. Up here in Oshkosh we have an outdoor ampitheater where we have concerts every Thursday night during the summer. I promised my wife that I would take her to see the BoDeans tonight. If you caused a rainout, I'll give her your name. You're in a heap of trouble. BTW, fellow Spridgeteer and Bugeye owner, Michael Allsup, will be here with his band, Three Dog Night, in two weeks on the 21st if any of you WI or northern IL chaps want to make it. I'll be talking to him a few days ahead of the concert to set up a get-together. Could be a good party for all interested LBCer's. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Peter C" Cc: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] "Don't need a weatherman....." no LBC yeah-of all the days I had a window to drag the Sprite to my garage finally. I will not park my grocery getter in the hail this evening if all haeck breaks loose like they say. I think I caused this though...I rolled the Sprite out into sunlight for the first time in 19 years. Kind of like that scene in Raiders of the Lost Arc. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter C Date: Thursday, June 7, 2007 12:49 pm Subject: [Spridgets] "Don't need a weatherman....." no LBC To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Wow, we got a storm brewing up here in Westconsin. Wind blowing > from > the South steady at 30MPH, gusting to 45. > > Weatherperson said this AM "Scattered tornadoes." > > Jeeeez... I HOPE they're scattered. > > They cancelled the Special Olympics tonight. (There's a joke there > somplace.) > Anyway...... we're just Blowin' in the Wind > > > Peter C From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 15:22:08 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 16:22:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 'Don't need a weatherman.....' no LBC In-Reply-To: <01a101c7a932$a18cb2c0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070607124036.01b13508@mailbag.com> <45230.164.58.184.10.1181241201.squirrel@164.58.184.10> <01a101c7a932$a18cb2c0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <43840a7e0706071422v62ba2d43p1c11a55621994bfc@mail.gmail.com> You-uns up there in Cheese land and in northern Illinois keep your eyes peeled and pay close attention to any warnings issued by the National Weather Service... The set-up is looking truly scary. Those storms now lining up along the front across central Wisconsin are going to kick someones a$$ big time! If you hear a tornado warning, for God's sake take safe shelter!! We had wind to 75 mph yesterday here in Dodge City. Took a row of wooden shakes right off my house! Two weeks ago 2" hail beat the hell out of my siding and broke some windows.... An average spring for this area ;-) Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City On 6/7/07, David Lieb wrote: > >> Wow, we got a storm brewing up here in Westconsin. Wind blowing from > >> the South steady at 30MPH, gusting to 45. > > And today was the day I had to take someone up on the roof of Village > Hall and the Police Department. Go figure. From thcollin at mtu.edu Thu Jun 7 15:33:00 2007 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 17:33:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC, but what a ride!!! Message-ID: <60324o$4tptf@email.mtu.edu> http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070607/UPDATE/706070460 Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jun 7 15:37:36 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 16:37:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 'Don't need a weatherman.....' no LBC In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0706071422v62ba2d43p1c11a55621994bfc@mail.gmail.co m> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070607124036.01b13508@mailbag.com> <45230.164.58.184.10.1181241201.squirrel@164.58.184.10> <01a101c7a932$a18cb2c0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <43840a7e0706071422v62ba2d43p1c11a55621994bfc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070607163555.034d6198@nosimport.com> Yep. They say it is PDS I thought it meant Pretty Damn Scary, but the wether spin is Potentially Dangerous Situation. It's PFS to me. PPP ==== At 04:22 PM 6/7/2007, Jim Johnson wrote: >You-uns up there in Cheese land and in northern Illinois keep your >eyes peeled and pay close attention to any warnings issued by the >National Weather Service... The set-up is looking truly scary. Those >storms now lining up along the front across central Wisconsin are >going to kick someones a$$ big time! If you hear a tornado warning, >for God's sake take safe shelter!! > >We had wind to 75 mph yesterday here in Dodge City. Took a row of >wooden shakes right off my house! Two weeks ago 2" hail beat the >hell out of my siding and broke some windows.... An average spring >for this area ;-) > >Cheers!! >Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City > >On 6/7/07, David Lieb wrote: > > >> Wow, we got a storm brewing up here in Westconsin. Wind blowing from > > >> the South steady at 30MPH, gusting to 45. > > > > And today was the day I had to take someone up on the roof of Village > > Hall and the Police Department. Go figure. From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jun 7 15:58:48 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 16:58:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Austin Healeys to be led by Gerry Coker (Montreal F1) Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070607165803.03667150@nosimport.com> From the other Healey list....... Peter C === >Keep your eyes peeled for Gerry and the Austin Healeys on Saturday as they >will do a parade lap during the F1 pre-race festivities. I received this >note from Gerry. > > > >--------------------- > >At present I have just arrived in Montreal for the formula 1 Grand Prix >where I will have the honour on Saturday of leading a team of Austin >Healeys around the course, complete with a Formula 1 driver in the >passenger seat. What a thrill that will be for drivers and passengers >alike. > > > >Cheers, Gerry Coker. > >------------------------ > > > >Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! > >President AHCUSA www.healey.org > >VP/Events Director GGAHC www.goldengatehealeys.com From type79 at ix.netcom.com Thu Jun 7 16:08:48 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 18:08:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Austin Healeys to be led by Gerry Coker (Montreal F1) Message-ID: <15605039.1181254128535.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I have seats in the hairpin. Go Fernando! jay fishbein wallingford,ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ -----Original Message----- >From: Peter C >Sent: Jun 7, 2007 5:58 PM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Austin Healeys to be led by Gerry Coker (Montreal F1) > > From the other Healey list....... > >Peter C From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jun 7 16:42:04 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 17:42:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? References: <410-2200764719238685@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <01df01c7a955$12e94420$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >> (brad , you have any more of yer home made pickled ocra? can't find it >> here!) ;) Okra was put on this earth for one and ONLY one purpose: The proper making of gumbo. Any other use is sacriligeous. derf, aim those blanks at the heathens!!! From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jun 7 16:42:37 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 17:42:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] How Not To Be Offended References: <5f00d9910706071254r1a979049ge9f1932398b7c939@mail.gmail.com> <2310a5e5ca57a8a528a.20070607130433.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <01e301c7a955$25eb4b40$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Oooooooh, you have a cannon? > I wanna play! Cannons versus potato guns? From kristi74midget at comcast.net Thu Jun 7 16:50:27 2007 From: kristi74midget at comcast.net (Kristi & Lambert) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 18:50:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Top is sold. Message-ID: Thanks everyone for you interest. Lambert From hal at katemuir.com Thu Jun 7 16:55:53 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 15:55:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility? In-Reply-To: <410-22007647192835654@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Chuck wrote: "WAIT ONE MINUTE! is that the randy newman "we'll all go together when we go"? (oops wrong artist!) along the lines of "poisoning pidgeons in the park"??????? DARN IT! who did "champagne charlie" & "small(what ever) got shot by his own 38"?? was that leon redbone? (sorry but old obscure vynal is in my home...)" Chuck, It was Tom Waits who did Small Change [got rained on with his own 38] Poisioning Pigeons in the Park was by Tom Lehrer. He had many a standout song including: The MLF Lulaby Be Prepared The Wild West is Where I want to Be The Vatican Rag Both are out on CD, by the way. Some of you may be old enough to remember the '60s TV show That Was the Week Was. (or was it the Year?) Tom Lehrer did the theme song for it. He gave up satire when Richard "the Trickster" Nixon got elected president, claiming that nothing he could write could possibly be stranger than that. Well, a few presidents later we have proof that no matter how wierd it gets, it can still get wierder. Hal From philip.s.jones at comcast.net Thu Jun 7 17:20:07 2007 From: philip.s.jones at comcast.net (Phil Jones) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 23:20:07 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] 71 Midget windshield wiper gearbox Message-ID: <060720072320.4275.466892A7000D30FE000010B322007613949C0A020106D29CD29F070407089F@comcast.net> Well, it's been a while since I posted, but my favorite recent line has been "don't be a whining jackass". Thanks Derf! That's a good one. Now for the LBC content: I took my underutilized 71 Midget out for a drive in the rain the other day; and noticed that the center of my three wipers was moving through a larger arc (more degrees of rotation) than the other two. A few years ago, I completely rebuilt the car; and think I remember replacing one of the gearboxes. My first thought was that I must have; and that the replacement gearbox must have a different ratio than the original ones. Any comments on that? Do some years' wiper gearboxes have different ratios? Maybe there is a specific ratio for each wiper position? A bozo installation error? Just in case that's not enough to prompt a response: I have a democratic cat that likes guns. guinness, craftsman tools, cast aluminum wheel chocks and naked ladies. And my delete key works fine. Thank in advance for your insightful replies. From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Thu Jun 7 17:29:23 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 18:29:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] How Not To Be Offended In-Reply-To: <01e301c7a955$25eb4b40$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <200706072327.l57NRiYj012897@ms-smtp-03.rdc-kc.rr.com> Blanks in a cannon? Must be like using a polymer for oh nevermind... I'm looking forward to potato and apple season, I think the boy will be old enough. Just picked up some new grill igniters at Menards for dirt cheap. Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 5:43 PM To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How Not To Be Offended > Oooooooh, you have a cannon? > I wanna play! Cannons versus potato guns? From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jun 7 13:31:09 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 15:31:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? Message-ID: <20070607193110.YSLT6941.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> You may want to consider painting the engine bay since you're taking the front end apart anyway? ;) > From: "Deikis, John G" > > Mark: > > When you have > the whole thing in pieces, it will be easy to see what's junk and what's > still okay. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 19:19:49 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 19:19:49 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? In-Reply-To: <01df01c7a955$12e94420$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <410-2200764719238685@earthlink.net> <01df01c7a955$12e94420$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706071819l68563594hbf9517484356f8ed@mail.gmail.com> Fried Okra isn't bad. From KGROWLER at aol.com Thu Jun 7 19:19:54 2007 From: KGROWLER at aol.com (KGROWLER at aol.com) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 21:19:54 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Ride Height Message-ID: Daniel1312 wrote: <<>> My stock, still with original springs, '79 1500 sits at 5 3/4" to the bottom of the sill at the front and at 6 3/4" at the rear on the left (driver's) side. And just to comment on Mark O'Neil's comment: <<>> Give it a chance. I thought the same thing when I bought my '79 in 1981. I originally figured it was a step on the way to an MGB or TR6. 26 years later and I have or have driven a number of MGs and others but the '79 is still here and it will be the last one to roll out of here. They're all fun. Including the rubber bumper models. Do get the front suspension sorted out. I rebuilt mine at 103000 miles and it made a big difference in the handling and feel of the car. Hope you get as much enjoyment from your new acquisition. Kim Tonry Downers Grove, Illinois, USA


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See what's free at http://www.aol.com. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 19:22:00 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 19:22:00 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 71 Midget windshield wiper gearbox In-Reply-To: <060720072320.4275.466892A7000D30FE000010B322007613949C0A020106D29CD29F070407089F@comcast.net> References: <060720072320.4275.466892A7000D30FE000010B322007613949C0A020106D29CD29F070407089F@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706071822p583f5b01i2662485e35e8fa5e@mail.gmail.com> Now there's a lister with the two required senses: Common sense and sense of humor. On 6/7/07, Phil Jones wrote: > Well, it's been a while since I posted, but my favorite recent line has been "don't be a whining jackass". Thanks Derf! That's a good one. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 19:24:10 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 19:24:10 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Austin Healeys to be led by Gerry Coker (Montreal F1) In-Reply-To: <15605039.1181254128535.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <15605039.1181254128535.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706071824g2286bc84r63ca4e7d73da651b@mail.gmail.com> There was something in the air that night The stars were bright, fernando They were shining there for you and me For liberty, fernando From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jun 7 19:25:15 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 20:25:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? References: <410-2200764719238685@earthlink.net> <01df01c7a955$12e94420$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <5f00d9910706071819l68563594hbf9517484356f8ed@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <03bc01c7a96b$dec8e0d0$0401a8c0@midget> > Fried Okra isn't bad. There are at LEAST two opinions on that ;-) I am sticking with my gumbo. From hal at katemuir.com Thu Jun 7 19:30:52 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 18:30:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? In-Reply-To: <1519ca38c91a34c06a31a6a.20070607103141.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: Mike MacLean said: "Don't forget Paul A when you put that 5 speed in your Meegit." I don't think the 5-speed conversion works in the 1500. Paul? Hal From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 19:37:59 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 19:37:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? In-Reply-To: <03bc01c7a96b$dec8e0d0$0401a8c0@midget> References: <410-2200764719238685@earthlink.net> <01df01c7a955$12e94420$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <5f00d9910706071819l68563594hbf9517484356f8ed@mail.gmail.com> <03bc01c7a96b$dec8e0d0$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706071837x6bd8ed39i230d8ea747b394c7@mail.gmail.com> Boiled okra gets slimy. There are two edible forms of Okra, fried and pickled. You can have a perfectly good gumbo without Okra. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jun 7 19:45:14 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 20:45:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? References: <410-2200764719238685@earthlink.net> <01df01c7a955$12e94420$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <5f00d9910706071819l68563594hbf9517484356f8ed@mail.gmail.com> <03bc01c7a96b$dec8e0d0$0401a8c0@midget> <5f00d9910706071837x6bd8ed39i230d8ea747b394c7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <03ca01c7a96e$a91c0130$0401a8c0@midget> > Boiled okra gets slimy. There are two edible forms of Okra, fried and > pickled. > You can have a perfectly good gumbo without Okra. Two opinions there, too. Yes, boiled okra gets slimy, but there is a technique to properly preparing okra for gumbo so it is not slimy. And NO, it isn't gumbo without okra, it is just soup. ;-) From d.swanson at earthlink.net Thu Jun 7 19:49:10 2007 From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 21:49:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] VIR Gold Cup Message-ID: <4E092DDC90EF425A9EA293AB2D424A7B@HomeComputer> Is anyone going to VIR this weekend for the Gold Cup? I'll be there Saturday. I was going to be riding with a friend in his restored 1275 Mini Cooper S; but now his son is going with him, so I will be forced to drive myself in a modern car with A/C, a stereo and sound deadening. Dean Swanson '62 A.H. Sprite mkII Holly Springs, NC From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jun 7 19:51:10 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 20:51:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] VIR Gold Cup References: <4E092DDC90EF425A9EA293AB2D424A7B@HomeComputer> Message-ID: <03ce01c7a96f$7cf9d400$0401a8c0@midget> > but now his son is going with him, so I will be forced to drive myself in > a > modern car with A/C, a stereo and sound deadening. > Dean Swanson > '62 A.H. Sprite mkII And why aren't you taking the siggy car? From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 19:54:45 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 19:54:45 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? In-Reply-To: <03ca01c7a96e$a91c0130$0401a8c0@midget> References: <410-2200764719238685@earthlink.net> <01df01c7a955$12e94420$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <5f00d9910706071819l68563594hbf9517484356f8ed@mail.gmail.com> <03bc01c7a96b$dec8e0d0$0401a8c0@midget> <5f00d9910706071837x6bd8ed39i230d8ea747b394c7@mail.gmail.com> <03ca01c7a96e$a91c0130$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706071854p28967687l88edb6dd92d6d501@mail.gmail.com> Ok, I know I've had good gumbo with loads of Okra and it wasn't slimy. But, that boiled Okra is just slimy. Soup starts with water. Gumbo starts with a Roux. So does etouffe, bisque, etc. The key to good Cajun/Creole cooking is the Roux. I used to know a lady that was a friend of Al Copeland(Popeyes chicken guy). Al is a restaurateur. This lady used to go hang out with the chefs at Al's upscale places and trade ideas and stuff. That lady could cook! Me, I prefer a good Sirloin, a few spices, and some charcoal. Voila! Beef, is what's for dinner. From d.swanson at earthlink.net Thu Jun 7 19:55:49 2007 From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 21:55:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: VIR Gold Cup Message-ID: Because it's too far to walk..... And why aren't you taking the siggy car? > but now his son is going with him, so I will be forced to drive myself in > a > modern car with A/C, a stereo and sound deadening. > Dean Swanson > '62 A.H. Sprite mkII From gmajewski at wi.rr.com Thu Jun 7 20:07:05 2007 From: gmajewski at wi.rr.com (gary majewski) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 21:07:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] e-mail address Message-ID: Group, I have been lurking for some years taking in all the wisdom of the group. Just lately I have noticed that my e-mail address has been appearing at the end of all the messages that come through. Any suggestions on how to remove it? Thanks in advance as always Gary '59 BE From pdx.pete at verizon.net Thu Jun 7 20:08:52 2007 From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (pdxpete) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 19:08:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? References: <410-2200764719238685@earthlink.net> <01df01c7a955$12e94420$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <5f00d9910706071819l68563594hbf9517484356f8ed@mail.gmail.com> <03bc01c7a96b$dec8e0d0$0401a8c0@midget> <5f00d9910706071837x6bd8ed39i230d8ea747b394c7@mail.gmail.com> <03ca01c7a96e$a91c0130$0401a8c0@midget> <5f00d9910706071854p28967687l88edb6dd92d6d501@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001901c7a971$f660b500$14086f47@DBKF4T81> Kudos! Not often that you see the word used, especially in its correct spelling. ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" > Al is a restaurateur. The word restaurateur is sometimes spelled "restauranteur," but this is an error. The word for the proprietor of a restaurant is correctly spelled restaurateur. Both restaurant and restaurateur are borrowed from French. To greatly simplify the explanation, restaurateur is formed from the French equivalent of the English verb restore and the suffix -tor, which forms personal nouns from verbs (two examples are actor and orator). Restaurateur is an older word than restaurant. The word restaurant, on the other hand, is formed from a present participle of the restore verb. One of the meanings the present participle can have is 'something that performs (the activity of the verb)', so deodorant, something that deodorizes, and restaurant, a place that restores. In other words, both restaurant and restaurateur are based on the same verb, but they are not directly related; restaurateur is not formed from restaurant with a suffix added. Since the word restaurant is so much more common, its spelling tends to influence the spelling of restaurateur. The spelling restauranteur is fairly common, but it should be regarded as an error. http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=19980112 From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 20:19:09 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 20:19:09 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? In-Reply-To: <001901c7a971$f660b500$14086f47@DBKF4T81> References: <410-2200764719238685@earthlink.net> <01df01c7a955$12e94420$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <5f00d9910706071819l68563594hbf9517484356f8ed@mail.gmail.com> <03bc01c7a96b$dec8e0d0$0401a8c0@midget> <5f00d9910706071837x6bd8ed39i230d8ea747b394c7@mail.gmail.com> <03ca01c7a96e$a91c0130$0401a8c0@midget> <5f00d9910706071854p28967687l88edb6dd92d6d501@mail.gmail.com> <001901c7a971$f660b500$14086f47@DBKF4T81> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706071919x4d2ead52q2af6ddc9fec31532@mail.gmail.com> Not me, twas the spell checker that caught that one. On 6/7/07, pdxpete wrote: > Kudos! Not often that you see the word used, especially in its correct > spelling. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "derf" > > > Al is a restaurateur. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 20:20:35 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 20:20:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] e-mail address In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706071920h718aa385jb3cdb080e300c540@mail.gmail.com> It is the new system. To get rid of it, unsubscribe. I think it only come to you so there is no fear of spam, if that is what you're worried about. All my messages have my email at the bottom now, too. Cheers, Derf From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Jun 7 20:23:14 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 21:23:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706071837x6bd8ed39i230d8ea747b394c7@mail.gmail.com> References: <410-2200764719238685@earthlink.net> <01df01c7a955$12e94420$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <5f00d9910706071819l68563594hbf9517484356f8ed@mail.gmail.com> <03bc01c7a96b$dec8e0d0$0401a8c0@midget> <5f00d9910706071837x6bd8ed39i230d8ea747b394c7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7FD5642C-3279-4B3C-B98A-59D698F50EF5@comcast.net> Pfftt.. pressure cooked.. takes a while to get the timing down but man them's good eats! Lester .. and it's every Gumbo I've eaten. In Louisiana anyway, not sure about you yanqui's (Please note forward thinking spelling) ;-0 On Jun 7, 2007, at 8:37 PM, derf wrote: > Boiled okra gets slimy. There are two edible forms of Okra, fried > and pickled. > You can have a perfectly good gumbo without Okra. > _______________________________________________ > oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From p.herder at cox.net Thu Jun 7 20:24:35 2007 From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 21:24:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] e-mail address In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706071920h718aa385jb3cdb080e300c540@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910706071920h718aa385jb3cdb080e300c540@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001b01c7a974$28494760$78dbd620$@herder@cox.net> I just checked the archives and no email addresses are saved there so it shouldn't be a problem. It did get my attention when it started showing up, tho'! Paul -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of derf It is the new system. To get rid of it, unsubscribe. I think it only come to you so there is no fear of spam, if that is what you're worried about. All my messages have my email at the bottom now, too. Cheers, Derf From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Jun 7 20:24:42 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 21:24:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? In-Reply-To: <03ca01c7a96e$a91c0130$0401a8c0@midget> References: <410-2200764719238685@earthlink.net> <01df01c7a955$12e94420$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <5f00d9910706071819l68563594hbf9517484356f8ed@mail.gmail.com> <03bc01c7a96b$dec8e0d0$0401a8c0@midget> <5f00d9910706071837x6bd8ed39i230d8ea747b394c7@mail.gmail.com> <03ca01c7a96e$a91c0130$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <6982F973-FE15-4DF1-B3EF-EABF68DF60A7@comcast.net> Umm.. to be quite honest, in Louisiana one never asks what's in the Gumbo. I fyou can identify what floats to the surface, good for you but don't push it. Lester ... in Louisiana.. On Jun 7, 2007, at 8:45 PM, David Lieb wrote: >> Boiled okra gets slimy. There are two edible forms of Okra, fried >> and >> pickled. >> You can have a perfectly good gumbo without Okra. > > Two opinions there, too. Yes, boiled okra gets slimy, but there is a > technique > to properly preparing okra for gumbo so it is not slimy. And NO, it > isn't > gumbo without okra, it is just soup. ;-) > _______________________________________________ > oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Jun 7 20:26:32 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 21:26:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] e-mail address In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706071920h718aa385jb3cdb080e300c540@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910706071920h718aa385jb3cdb080e300c540@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: You're right by damn! All of the email messages do have your email at the bottom Derf.. ;-) Lester On Jun 7, 2007, at 9:20 PM, derf wrote: > It is the new system. To get rid of it, unsubscribe. I think it > only come to you so there is no fear of spam, if that is what you're > worried about. All my messages have my email at the bottom now, too. > Cheers, > Derf > _______________________________________________ > lewing at sport.rr.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From Miniac7 at aol.com Thu Jun 7 20:32:10 2007 From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 22:32:10 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] VIR Gold Cup Message-ID: Dean, I'll be there on Saturday also, in an '06 MINI Cooper S. Give me a call @757-692-6337 on the cell. Howard Collins Virginia Beach, Va. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. From mconn2 at bright.net Thu Jun 7 20:43:01 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 22:43:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Only on this list References: <46677153.2050506@comcast.net> Message-ID: <000601c7a976$bc0ef380$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Frank, What a lovely story. Happy Birthday June 26th to your wife, and happy driving in her Jaguar S Type! Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" To: "Andrew Frink" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 10:45 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Only on this list > Once again a total stranger but another Spridgeteer has managed to help > me out. > My wife who is turning 50 in a couple weeks now has her dream car. > A Jaguar S Type with a 5 speed but since this is a rare car (with a > manual tranny) the one in the color she wants was in Utah. So I asked > Andrew if he was close, he was, he test drove the car, said it was OK, > and Diane is the new owner of a Jag S with a stick. > I can't thank Drew enough for checking out the car for me. > And unless there is anyone coming to Jersey with an empty trailer real > soon, I am having the car shipped. > It would be great if it's here on her birthday on 6/26 and so far it > looks good. > This is just one more reason why Spridget folks are the worlds best kind > of people. > Special thanks to Drew and these weird little cars that we all own. > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 20:44:56 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 20:44:56 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? In-Reply-To: <6982F973-FE15-4DF1-B3EF-EABF68DF60A7@comcast.net> References: <410-2200764719238685@earthlink.net> <01df01c7a955$12e94420$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <5f00d9910706071819l68563594hbf9517484356f8ed@mail.gmail.com> <03bc01c7a96b$dec8e0d0$0401a8c0@midget> <5f00d9910706071837x6bd8ed39i230d8ea747b394c7@mail.gmail.com> <03ca01c7a96e$a91c0130$0401a8c0@midget> <6982F973-FE15-4DF1-B3EF-EABF68DF60A7@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706071944u7a340091vf6479463b0ebfa71@mail.gmail.com> I've had a similar experience in yankeeland called a fricassee. A little on the soup side but gumbolike in the social aspects. I've been in Louisiana forever and I ALWAYS ask what's in the gumbo. I don't DO opossum, raccoon, nutria (Rat that can eat your cat). I've had squirrel, rabbit, and venison (yummy) but some species are just too rodential. Tell your saab story walkin. From mconn2 at bright.net Thu Jun 7 20:45:40 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 22:45:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Help! References: <000a01c7a7cd$56a35ef0$c334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757><000c01c7a7da$5d764690$c634ffd8@YOURD28EB17757><001e01c7a87d$d17591b0$1234ffd8@YOURD28EB17757><004801c7a8a7$4c307f40$f675fea9@p0k7l8><021701c7a8ad$19f873b0$eaaeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> <033301c7a8ae$0b3ad790$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <000b01c7a977$1a777ff0$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> David, Yes, I see what you mean. I tried to reverse the programme back to what it was, and it refused. What will happen next, I wonder! I'm glad to be back. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Help! >> I've persuaded my anti-virus programme that the List is not a possible >> virus. > > Now you are really in trouble! > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mconn2 at bright.net Thu Jun 7 20:50:28 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 22:50:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Help! References: <000a01c7a7cd$56a35ef0$c334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757><000c01c7a7da$5d764690$c634ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <001e01c7a87d$d17591b0$1234ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <004801c7a8a7$4c307f40$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <021701c7a8ad$19f873b0$eaaeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> <006601c7a8b4$6de8c720$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <001a01c7a977$c64e2180$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Paul, Do you think they might be? I hadn't thought of that. Oh, dear! What have I done? Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Asgeirsson" To: "Michael Conn" Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 11:32 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Help! > Good! So the Mafia wasn't involved? > > Pa > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Conn" > To: "Paul Asgeirsson" > Cc: "spridgets" > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 7:39 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Help! > > >> Paul, >> >> I'm okay now. Thank you. >> >> I've persuaded my anti-virus programme that the List is not a possible >> virus. >> >> Michael >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Paul Asgeirsson" >> To: "Michael Conn" ; "Brad Fornal" >> >> Cc: "spridgets" >> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:58 PM >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Help! >> >> >> > Hi Michael, >> > >> > Mark B is changing over to a new method, mailman, to handle the autox >> > list. >> > Mine is all straightened out now, but it was screwy for a bit. >> > >> > Seems to me there is also a different way to subscribe. As soon as I >> > remember where the safe place is I put the indirections, I'll forward > it. >> > Unless someone else can tell you how to do it. >> > >> > Later, Paul A >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Michael Conn" >> > To: "Brad Fornal" >> > Cc: "spridgets" >> > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 2:01 PM >> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Help! >> > >> > >> >> Brad, >> >> >> >> I've still not received anything from the List or Mark. I've tried >> >> re-applying for membership, but have heard nothing. I seem to be >> >> "locked >> >> out" so to speak. >> >> >> >> Are you receiving/sending e-mails in the usual way? >> >> >> >> Have you (or anyone else on the List) had a similar experience. If > so, >> >> what did you do to get back on? >> >> >> >> Look forward to hearing from you. >> >> >> >> Michael >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Brad Fornal" >> >> To: "Michael Conn" >> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 9:33 PM >> >> Subject: Re: Help! >> >> >> >> >> >> > s'nuthin >> >> > >> >> > On 6/5/07, Michael Conn wrote: >> >> >> Brad, >> >> >> >> >> >> I'll give it a try. >> >> >> >> >> >> Thank you. >> >> >> >> >> >> Michael >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> From: "Brad Fornal" >> >> >> To: "Michael Conn" >> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 9:28 PM >> >> >> Subject: Re: Help! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I know that Mark has been working on a new system. Have you tried > to >> >> >> > re-sub? I wonder if you were one of the few to fall through the >> >> >> > cracks? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > On 6/5/07, Michael Conn wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Brad, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm not receiving any e-mails from the List. What's happening? >> > What >> >> >> >> do >> >> >> >> I >> >> >> >> do? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Michael >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net >> >> >> >> Edit your replies >> >> >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jun 7 20:51:54 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 22:51:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Ride height In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4668C44A.10303@comcast.net> Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: > I'd like the ride height measurement to be from the bottom of the sill (from > the face of the sill rather than underneath it) to the floor/road surface. Daniel 71 Midget stock and tired. 7" front 8.5" rear 58 Sprite stock and new 6" front 7" rear 59 Sprite lowered 1" 5" front 6" rear 1500 Midget stock 14" front 19" rear (only joking) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From mconn2 at bright.net Thu Jun 7 21:19:09 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 23:19:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility? References: Message-ID: <004201c7a97b$c80dfd20$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Elizabeth, We're all entitled to our opinion. Royalty offends me. So .................! The real country and the real people of Britain are great. The List is full of private opinions about an enormous endless number of topics. My very first e-mail on coming to the List was to complain about e-mails passing between members about guns. It was a good well written and argued e-mail, and the sum total of my complaint and effort was to be told to hit the delete key. Soon after that I had protracted and enjoyable correspondence with members on the List about the .303 Lee Enfield. (A fine British weapon.) I see this evening there is correspondence about the Jaguar motor car. I thought this was a List for Sprites and Midgets. (I'd prefer it was only AN5 Sprites.) I'm gonna hit the delete key. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fisher or Elizabeth Jones" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 10:52 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Civility? > Given that this is a multi national membership, is it really necessary > to make disparaging comments which quite definitely offend some > members? > I really appreciate all the side trips we take from time to time, just > as much as the car talk, but I resent private opinions being aired, > which decry my country or her people, or her monarchy. Just as some > others object to American politics being discussed here. I'm sure > others must feel the same way, but perhaps do not wish to speak. > Sir, I am offended > Elizabeth Jones > Comfort, Texas. > _________________________________________________________________ > > Fisher or Elizabeth Jones > "A gentleman does not motor about after dark." Joseph Lucas 1920 > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mconn2 at bright.net Thu Jun 7 21:22:20 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 23:22:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility? References: Message-ID: <004701c7a97c$3a054050$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> John, How dare you. (I can't even spell the name of the country!) Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deikis, John G" To: "Fisher or Elizabeth Jones" ; Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Civility? >I would prefer to not limit ourselves to just the Chinese. Bashing > Brits was a breath of fresh air. Look at all they've done to us! > Inches, miles, gallons, an un-spellable language close to being official > at the expense of the wonderfully phonetic Espaniolish. Not to mention > these cars. A nation of blacksmiths competing with engineers! > > Perhaps we could benefit by broadening the barbs a bit more: I propose > LITHUANIANS! We brew good beer, make good sausage, eat a lot of > potatoes, and produce fairly good looking women. We also have upwards > to 300,000 illegals living in the U.S. and are responsible for most of > the auto theft in Germany. What's not to like? Chester Riley's buddy, > Otto Schmidlap, claimed to be Lithuanian. Michael Conn might be a > Lithuanian! > > -JohnD > > "Money trumps peace." - George W. Bush - February 14, 2007 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fisher or Elizabeth Jones [mailto:fisher at hctc.net] > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 10:52 PM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Civility? > > Given that this is a multi national membership, is it really > necessary > to make disparaging comments which quite definitely offend > some > members? > I really appreciate all the side trips we take from time to time, > just > as much as the car talk, but I resent private opinions being > aired, > which decry my country or her people, or her monarchy. Just as > some > others object to American politics being discussed here. I'm > sure > others must feel the same way, but perhaps do not wish to speak. > Sir, I am offended > Elizabeth Jones > Comfort, Texas. > _________________________________________________________________ > > Fisher or Elizabeth Jones > "A gentleman does not motor about after dark." Joseph Lucas 1920 > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mconn2 at bright.net Thu Jun 7 21:27:15 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 23:27:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster References: <4663AA6C.3060508@autox.team.net> <002b01c7a6c9$6b4575a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <4663E48A.2474.D4E917@dmg.bossig.com> <01c301c7a8a9$42f80b80$eaaeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> <007601c7a8df$4edfc650$8c578956@tairswork> <43840a7e0706070707i4aa40ff1s76a6d870a46eebb1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <004c01c7a97c$e9bbb420$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Jim, Don't you all start getting on at me again. You all know how sensitive I am! Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" To: "Guy R Day" Cc: "Michael Conn" ; ; "spridgets" Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster > Ummmm.... I thought I remembered Michael saying he is a Brit now > living over here.... > My, we all have sensitive skins at the moment... ;-) > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On 6/7/07, Guy R Day wrote: >> Michael, >> >> It is no surprise that America is held in such high regard throughout the >> world with ambassadors such as Michael Conn. >> >> Please - put Spridgets back on your virus list. The USA will be happier >> without your diplomatic skills being stretched. >> >> Guy R Day >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Michael Conn" >> To: >> Cc: "spridgets" >> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 3:12 AM >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster >> >> >> > Dave, >> > >> > Margaret Thatcher wanted England to be the 51st State of the Union. >> > (The >> > queen just wants more money. queen Charles wants to make it to the >> > throne. >> > I'm sorry. I just can't spell "queen" with an upper case "q", "Land >> > of >> > hope and glory ..........".) >> > >> > Michael >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Dave G." >> > To: "Spridget List" >> > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 1:08 PM >> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster >> > >> > >> >> In some countries I have been in, it is considered to be impolite to >> >> make a stranger unhappy or to give them un-welcome news.. >> >> So when you ask "Can I get to XYZ from here? And is it far?" >> >> The answer could be "Yes, it's just over the hill!" >> >> When in fact you are going the wrong way and can never get there! >> >> It's up to the next folks you meet to maybe tell you the truth and >> >> make >> >> you un-happy... or let you figure it out yourself.. >> >> >> >> Dave G. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> mconn2 at bright.net >> >> >> >> Edit your replies >> >> >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > _______________________________________________ >> > grday at btinternet.com >> > >> > Edit your replies >> > >> > http://www.team.net/archive >> > >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> _______________________________________________ >> bmwwxman at gmail.com >> >> Edit your replies >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > > > -- > 1964 R60/2 BMW > 1968 MG Midget > 1976 R90/6 BMW > 1990 K100LT BMW > Thomas Huxley - "It is not who is right, but what is right, that is of > importance." From mconn2 at bright.net Thu Jun 7 21:29:03 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 23:29:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility? References: <5f00d9910706070735h5f22e8aem8229d51111fe6512@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <005501c7a97d$2a119530$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Where are the French in all this? ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "Deikis, John G" Cc: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Civility? >I don't recall any bashing of Chinese people. It is the products that > get bashed. They're cheap, and the Chinese people know it. They > think Americans are silly because they see what is being exported to > the US. Junk. > Doesn't Austin Powers hate the Dutch? > Can't we all just get along? > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mconn2 at bright.net Thu Jun 7 21:38:15 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 23:38:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello - it's been a while References: <20070607170925.38638.qmail@web53808.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <007801c7a97e$73888a10$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Bryan, Thank you. I've got a color card showing the original leaf green color: that should do the trick at the paint shop. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "bv" To: "Michael Conn" Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hello - it's been a while > Micahael, > > No, the green I used isn't even close to the original > bugeye 'leaf green'. I was trying to do the stock > 'dark green'(which was on my car), but it ended up > coming out much brighter, more of a 'primary green'. > The sprite 'leaf green' is lighter, more of a creamy > guacamole /wasabe green. > If you have any area's in your car that have the > orginal leaf green paint (inside the doors, or under > the bonnet), you can probably take it to a paint shop > and have it matched. > > Regards, > Bryan > > --- Michael Conn wrote: > >> BV >> >> Is your AN5 painted in the original Healey leaf >> green? Alternatively, is >> it a modern leaf green? If the latter, are you >> able to let me have a >> reference number, please? >> >> My AN5 was the Healey leaf green, but the owner >> before re-painted it a very >> bright lime green. I'm in the process of getting >> it painted back to leaf >> green using the original formula. If you used a >> modern leaf green paint, >> that would be easier. >> >> If you have a picture of the car showing the color, >> that would be great. >> >> I'm new to the List, and it's good to meet you. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Michael >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "bv" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 5:22 PM >> Subject: [Spridgets] Hello - it's been a while >> >> >> > Hello everyone, >> > >> > It's been quite a while since I posted, but I'm >> > finally re-subscribed to the list. My previous >> > employer had blocked access to the list, and I was >> > unable to send/received messages. I still see a >> lot of >> > familiar names on the list, and I'm happy to see >> you >> > guys are still around. >> > >> > I've still got my green 59 bugeye, and she runs >> like a >> > champ. I still make minor adjustments and >> > improvements, but it's been pretty trouble free >> for >> > the last 5-years:-) >> > >> > Regards, >> > Bryan Vandiver >> > San Jose,CA >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ____________________________________________________________________________________ >> > Choose the right car based on your needs. Check >> out Yahoo! Autos new Car >> > Finder tool. >> > http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ >> > _______________________________________________ >> > mconn2 at bright.net >> > >> > Edit your replies >> > >> > http://www.team.net/archive >> > >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > >> > >> >> > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. > Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. > http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Thu Jun 7 21:50:01 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 20:50:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? References: Message-ID: <002c01c7a980$18e94fc0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> You're right, Hal. Not for the 1500 '79. The Brits have a kit available, but it doesn't use the Datsun 5 speed. Seems to me someone on the list did that conversion. Back on the East coast as I recall. Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hal Faulkner" To: ; "Mark A. O'Neil" Cc: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? > Mike MacLean said: > > "Don't forget Paul A when you put that 5 speed in your > Meegit." > > I don't think the 5-speed conversion works in the 1500. Paul? > > Hal > _______________________________________________ > pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mconn2 at bright.net Thu Jun 7 21:51:44 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 23:51:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility ? References: Message-ID: <008301c7a980$55580b90$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Elizabeth, That's the point. You do have to express your opinions to the world. Otherwise, what's left? I think you're wrong on the American politician point. (You just watch what e-mails that comment will produce.) I'm afraid you're gonna leave yourself wide open to endless correspondence which will probably go on for years. Don't be offended, just enjoy, and hit the delete button. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fisher or Elizabeth Jones" To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 1:31 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Civility ? > It seems to me that my point is being missed, intentionally or > otherwise. If a comment is made by anyone, American or otherwise, > about American politicians for example, someone will immediately ask > that it be taken off-list. We all have our own opinions, are entitled > to them, but do not necessarily have to share them with the world. We > can all be offended by something, we all have our own pet issues, but > it doesn't help to have one's firmly held beliefs or opinions treated > with disdain. It matters not to me the nationality of the disparager, > I'd prefer not to see it done in this forum. > Most Americans understand patriotism, all I ask is that we extend a > courtesy to other nations, and don't demean their icons, real or > imagined. > elizabeth Jones > _________________________________________________________________ > > Fisher or Elizabeth Jones > "A gentleman does not motor about after dark." Joseph Lucas 1920 > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Jun 7 21:52:31 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 20:52:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility? In-Reply-To: <004201c7a97b$c80dfd20$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> References: <004201c7a97b$c80dfd20$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <4668D27F.2080301@earthlink.net> >Michael Conn wrote: "Royalty offends me....I'm gonna hit the delete key." > Hey, you're talking about my family, now. So, now I'm gonna hit the delete key. From mconn2 at bright.net Thu Jun 7 21:59:22 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 23:59:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility? References: <410-22007647192835654@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <00b601c7a981$668c1400$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Charles, I can't understand what you're saying, but it sounds like it could be an opinion. Keep them to yourself (if you don't mind, please). Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Christ" To: ; Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Civility? > WAIT ONE MINUTE! is that the randy newman "we'll all go together when we > go"? (oops wrong artist!) along the lines of "poisoning pidgeons in the > park"??????? DARN IT! who did "champagne charlie" & "small(what ever) > got shot by his own 38"?? was that leon redbone? (sorry but old obscure > vynal is in my home...) > > chuck > > >> [Original Message] >> From: >> To: >> Date: 6/7/2007 3:02:23 PM >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Civility? >> >> Hey Guys, >> >> Why stop at that old Kingston Trio ditty - How about Tom Leher's > "National Brotherhood Week" from the same era or Randy Newman's "Let's > Drop > The Big One (and see what happens)" from a few years later ......... >> >> And what about my guns! Them's fightin' words - I gots a British Enfield > rifle like the one my dad learnt on as part of a tank crew under Patton in > WWII. No, it doesn't leak oil! >> >> Rick Feibusch >> Venice Beach, CA > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mconn2 at bright.net Thu Jun 7 22:04:46 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 00:04:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? References: <410-2200764719238685@earthlink.net><01df01c7a955$12e94420$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <5f00d9910706071819l68563594hbf9517484356f8ed@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00ef01c7a982$27b674e0$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> That's your opinion! ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "David Lieb" Cc: "Spridget List" Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? > Fried Okra isn't bad. > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Jun 7 22:13:48 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 21:13:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility?--No PC please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4668D77C.9020907@earthlink.net> >Elizabeth Jones wrote "....I resent private opinions being aired, which decry my country or her people, or her monarchy. > Ah, but I believe you will find that whatever the nationality, we are all equal opportunity disparagers of other nations, colors, creeds, ad infinitum, ad nauseum. Why? Because we are human beings. The key is to do it in good grace, and accept it in good humor, whether it was intended humorous or not. I was once with a relative in his very crowded local (pub) in Sheffield. Somewhere in from the crowd a voice raised above the din, "I smell a damn Yank in here." I simply replied, "Yep, we are still over-paid, over-sexed, and over here," which brought on a fit of laughter around me. Similarly, later this summer we will be playing host to a friend and his family with whom I have stayed in High Wycombe. Graeme and Rowena have a deep distain for just about everything American, and they voice them ceaselessly. That does not, however, keep us from being good friends. I guess my point is that everyone on this list happens to be human, and with it come our own unique frailties. And we voice our feelings because we know we are among friends, and friends know they can spout off now and then. Bottom line? Life is too short to be taken too seriously (and with PC)! From mconn2 at bright.net Thu Jun 7 22:14:50 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 00:14:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility ? References: Message-ID: <012c01c7a983$8f95d640$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Elizabeth, Now look what you've done! As I said ealier, this will go on for years, you know. Please, say you've got the idea, and that you're not offended any more. (Dylan wrote "The rules of the road have been lodged, but it's only other peoples games that you've got to dodge". Michael From mconn2 at bright.net Thu Jun 7 22:21:17 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 00:21:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility?--No PC please References: <4668D77C.9020907@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <016001c7a984$762bd5f0$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Well said! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Fisher or Elizabeth Jones" Cc: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 12:13 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Civility?--No PC please > >Elizabeth Jones wrote "....I resent private opinions being aired, which > >decry my country or her people, or her monarchy. >> > Ah, but I believe you will find that whatever the nationality, we are > all equal opportunity disparagers of other nations, colors, creeds, ad > infinitum, ad nauseum. Why? Because we are human beings. The key is > to do it in good grace, and accept it in good humor, whether it was > intended humorous or not. I was once with a relative in his very > crowded local (pub) in Sheffield. Somewhere in from the crowd a voice > raised above the din, "I smell a damn Yank in here." I simply replied, > "Yep, we are still over-paid, over-sexed, and over here," which brought > on a fit of laughter around me. Similarly, later this summer we will be > playing host to a friend and his family with whom I have stayed in High > Wycombe. Graeme and Rowena have a deep distain for just about > everything American, and they voice them ceaselessly. That does not, > however, keep us from being good friends. > > I guess my point is that everyone on this list happens to be human, and > with it come our own unique frailties. And we voice our feelings > because we know we are among friends, and friends know they can spout > off now and then. Bottom line? Life is too short to be taken too > seriously (and with PC)! > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Thu Jun 7 22:25:39 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 00:25:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility? In-Reply-To: <016601c7a914$b435c010$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <5f00d9910706070735h5f22e8aem8229d51111fe6512@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0706070742p261b1bbu159442637b83d52d@mail.gmail.com> <016601c7a914$b435c010$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: Not bloody likely Mate. Anon On Jun 7, 2007, at 11:01 AM, David Lieb wrote: > Davi Lieb > More humble than you are and proud of it From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 22:51:06 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 22:51:06 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] How Not To Be Offended In-Reply-To: References: <5f00d9910706071254r1a979049ge9f1932398b7c939@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706072151t456fffa0p57a3faa2dbb781f8@mail.gmail.com> Oh, I don't know. Picture an MG roadster that doesn't break down. Then google "most popular roadster". I still love RWA Midgets. But, I'm like the guy on the commercial. I keep thinking "I love that car." In many ways my Miata is better than a Spridget. But, its apples and oranges. The Miata just fits my lifestyle better right now. I sold my Midget so you can kick me off the list if you want. I'm not the only lister with a Miata, I'm just the noisiest about it. Plus I just wrote that comment to stir up some trouble. And you bit. Cheers, Derf On 6/7/07, Dale Gleason wrote: > The only thing your Miata is better than is Rudy. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 22:53:52 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 22:53:52 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? In-Reply-To: <002c01c7a980$18e94fc0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <002c01c7a980$18e94fc0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706072153u2f19f7d6lfac31fbbb5d524b1@mail.gmail.com> Hey, Paul, have you ever looked at the Miata tranny for a possible conversion? I see them here and there for $150 and they're pretty tough, handling 200+ horsepower in some applications. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 22:55:19 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 22:55:19 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility ? In-Reply-To: <012c01c7a983$8f95d640$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> References: <012c01c7a983$8f95d640$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706072155h2233eb84gbdc676b21d291c2a@mail.gmail.com> Now look what you've gone and done. Now he's quoting Dylan Thomas again. On 6/7/07, Michael Conn wrote: > Please, say you've got the idea, and that you're not offended any more. > (Dylan wrote "The rules of the road have been lodged, but it's only other > peoples games that you've got to dodge". > > Michael From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jun 7 22:57:35 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 23:57:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? References: <002c01c7a980$18e94fc0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <5f00d9910706072153u2f19f7d6lfac31fbbb5d524b1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <042801c7a989$8808f2d0$0401a8c0@midget> > Hey, Paul, have you ever looked at the Miata tranny for a possible > conversion? I see them here and there for $150 and they're pretty > tough, handling 200+ horsepower in some applications. Like most of the rest, too big for the tunnel. I have benchpressed Miata trannies, too big! From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 23:02:02 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 23:02:02 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? In-Reply-To: <042801c7a989$8808f2d0$0401a8c0@midget> References: <002c01c7a980$18e94fc0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <5f00d9910706072153u2f19f7d6lfac31fbbb5d524b1@mail.gmail.com> <042801c7a989$8808f2d0$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706072202u41e69e1en4b01b41539cf06e4@mail.gmail.com> Oh, well. I sold my last Datsun tranny. I'll be on the lookout for more, though. Cheers, Derf From wmgilroy at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 23:24:51 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 22:24:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster In-Reply-To: <004c01c7a97c$e9bbb420$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> References: <4663AA6C.3060508@autox.team.net> <002b01c7a6c9$6b4575a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <4663E48A.2474.D4E917@dmg.bossig.com> <01c301c7a8a9$42f80b80$eaaeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> <007601c7a8df$4edfc650$8c578956@tairswork> <43840a7e0706070707i4aa40ff1s76a6d870a46eebb1@mail.gmail.com> <004c01c7a97c$e9bbb420$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <441250190706072224w6632f47m292d56596ae9b3e8@mail.gmail.com> Weird, I thought this thread started out talking about roundabouts? On 6/7/07, Michael Conn wrote: > > Jim, > > Don't you all start getting on at me again. You all know how sensitive I > am! From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Thu Jun 7 23:30:52 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 22:30:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? References: <002c01c7a980$18e94fc0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <5f00d9910706072153u2f19f7d6lfac31fbbb5d524b1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002601c7a98e$2f474ac0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Hi Derf, Yes, I have. There are some problems with it fitting and the location of the starter and the shifter. Likely all that can be taken care of, but it won't be a rather simple bolt up like the Datsun 210 is. And of course I'd like it to fit the Morris Minor, too. That might even be worse!! It might well take the motto, Anything can be done, all it takes is money!! More to follow. Later, Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "Paul Asgeirsson" Cc: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 9:53 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? > Hey, Paul, have you ever looked at the Miata tranny for a possible > conversion? I see them here and there for $150 and they're pretty > tough, handling 200+ horsepower in some applications. From smarc at smarc.net Fri Jun 8 00:19:44 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 02:19:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hi ya Message-ID: <4668F500.8070005@smarc.net> Howdy - Just joined spridgets because a 73 RWA Midget has taken up residence in my garage as of this week. It's gonna keep my '80 MGB LE company... I've done a lot of work on MGB's, but I never had a Midget or worked on one... haven't even ridden in one for like 30 years... so figure I'm gonna ask a lot questions that have been covered before. I was looking for a FAQ for the group, but didn't find one or any mention of one in the archives... Apparently it sat in a garage for the last 5 years. Not sure if it got much attention before that. With a new battery, it starts and runs, sort of. I noticed it doesn't like to roll too easy when I pushed it into the garage. I put the Midget up on jack stands, and pulled the wheels. Got leaking wheel cylinders and soaked brake shoes. With the rear brakes removed, the half shafts turn freely and have no discernible play. The front calipers seem frozen, and wont really release the rotors. They drag really badly. I cracked open the bleeders, some fairly clean fluid trickled out, but the calipers wont release, so I figure a complete brake job, replace hoses, calipers, cylinders, pads and shoes. Not sure if I need to replace any brake lines yet. Left front line looks a little rusty... Wheres the best place to locate jack stands in the front of the car?? There are some electrical issues to chase down, prob still a lot of grotty connectors, bad grounds, dirty switches... The seats are shot, need complete rebuild or replacement, so depends what I can find to fit my budget... Do the runners just bolt through the sheet metal on the floor??? Other concern is the steering rack. I noticed that the car would not self-center coming out of a turn. If you turn the wheel, it stays turned... Steering seems pretty tight. Possible bad or binding rack, maybe no oil in it, or maybe it's full of grease... Gonna have to pull it out to see I guess. Not looking forward to that. I pulled an mgb rack once, took me a week to get it back in the car and working... A DPO had the SU's replaced with a weber and desmogged. I have pulled the weber and the Pierce manifold, and plan to put SU's back in it. It also needs a proper fuel pump. Got one of those obnoxiously loud aftermarket pumps in it. Looks like it's had new kingpins & shocks installed, the rockers have been replaced, some floor areas patched and sealed, and a respray. Also has a fairly new exhaust system. The car looks reasonably nice. Any other things I need to know or look out for? -- Marc From kevin at valentinephoto.net Fri Jun 8 00:34:46 2007 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 02:34:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hi ya In-Reply-To: <4668F500.8070005@smarc.net> References: <4668F500.8070005@smarc.net> Message-ID: <1BC5CFA9-2557-4BA6-8510-2AA6BDDD3382@valentinephoto.net> Hi Marc, Welcome!! Sounds like you got a good one ;) Yes, the seat rails just bolt to the floor. The steering may be tight because the calipers are not releasing, get the calipers freed up before you rip the rack out of the car. Also, grease the front end (steering) very well and it might free up on it's own. Jack stands fit nicely under the 2 frame rails and that's a safe place to support the car. What Weber was on the car? DCOE or ??? Where are you located? As for questions - you will find several answers for each on this list ;) Kevin Valentine Tuscarora, PA 66, 68, 71, 73, and two 74 Midgets On Jun 8, 2007, at 2:19 AM, Marc wrote: > Howdy - > > Just joined spridgets because a 73 RWA Midget has taken up > residence in > my garage as of this week. It's gonna keep my '80 MGB LE company... > > I've done a lot of work on MGB's, but I never had a Midget or > worked on > one... haven't even ridden in one for like 30 years... so figure I'm > gonna ask a lot questions that have been covered before. I was looking > for a FAQ for the group, but didn't find one or any mention of one in > the archives... > > Apparently it sat in a garage for the last 5 years. Not sure if it got > much attention before that. With a new battery, it starts and runs, > sort > of. I noticed it doesn't like to roll too easy when I pushed it > into the > garage. I put the Midget up on jack stands, and pulled the wheels. Got > leaking wheel cylinders and soaked brake shoes. With the rear brakes > removed, the half shafts turn freely and have no discernible play. > > The front calipers seem frozen, and wont really release the rotors. > They > drag really badly. I cracked open the bleeders, some fairly clean > fluid > trickled out, but the calipers wont release, so I figure a complete > brake job, replace hoses, calipers, cylinders, pads and shoes. Not > sure > if I need to replace any brake lines yet. Left front line looks a > little > rusty... > > Wheres the best place to locate jack stands in the front of the car?? > > There are some electrical issues to chase down, prob still a lot of > grotty connectors, bad grounds, dirty switches... > > The seats are shot, need complete rebuild or replacement, so depends > what I can find to fit my budget... Do the runners just bolt > through the > sheet metal on the floor??? > > Other concern is the steering rack. I noticed that the car would not > self-center coming out of a turn. If you turn the wheel, it stays > turned... Steering seems pretty tight. Possible bad or binding rack, > maybe no oil in it, or maybe it's full of grease... Gonna have to pull > it out to see I guess. Not looking forward to that. I pulled an mgb > rack > once, took me a week to get it back in the car and working... > > A DPO had the SU's replaced with a weber and desmogged. I have pulled > the weber and the Pierce manifold, and plan to put SU's back in it. It > also needs a proper fuel pump. Got one of those obnoxiously loud > aftermarket pumps in it. > > Looks like it's had new kingpins & shocks installed, the rockers have > been replaced, some floor areas patched and sealed, and a respray. > Also > has a fairly new exhaust system. The car looks reasonably nice. From Daniel1312 at aol.com Fri Jun 8 01:27:46 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 03:27:46 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? Message-ID: One of the Larry's (not the real one) has a Ford type 9 in a 1500. there is an aluminiun adaptor plate that bolts the box to the standard bell housing. Daniel1312 In a message dated 08/06/07 04:49:52 GMT Daylight Time, PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net writes: > You're right, Hal. Not for the 1500 '79. The Brits have a kit available, > but it doesn't use the Datsun 5 speed. Seems to me someone on the list did > that conversion. Back on the East coast as I recall. From Daniel1312 at aol.com Fri Jun 8 01:30:27 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 03:30:27 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] VIR Gold Cup Message-ID: Is that the Cheltenham Gold Cup? Daniel1312 in ENGLAND In a message dated 08/06/07 02:49:25 GMT Daylight Time, d.swanson at earthlink.net writes: > Is anyone going to VIR this weekend for the Gold Cup? From Daniel1312 at aol.com Fri Jun 8 02:22:26 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 04:22:26 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] e-mail address Message-ID: Me too! Montana Bob (stop the madness) In a message dated 08/06/07 03:21:00 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: > All my messages have my email at the bottom now, too From Daniel1312 at aol.com Fri Jun 8 02:24:24 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 04:24:24 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] English food no LBC Message-ID: I've heard that in England a family might eat faggots followed by spotted dick. In a message dated 08/06/07 02:54:59 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: > what's for dinner. From Daniel1312 at aol.com Fri Jun 8 02:27:07 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 04:27:07 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] 71 Midget windshield wiper gearbox Message-ID: The arc might be shorter on the other 2 because they are tight and struggling and failing to complete a full arc. Daniel1312 In a message dated 08/06/07 00:20:31 GMT Daylight Time, philip.s.jones at comcast.net writes: > noticed that the center of my three wipers was moving through a larger arc > (more degrees of rotation) than the other two From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri Jun 8 03:13:01 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 02:13:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] English food no LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46691D9D.60204@earthlink.net> >Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: "I've heard that in England a family might eat faggots followed by spotted dick." > Oh, that guy lives in Toms River, New Jersey! From d.swanson at earthlink.net Fri Jun 8 04:28:09 2007 From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 06:28:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: VIR Gold Cup Message-ID: It is the Heacock Classic Gold Cup Historic Races in Virginia See here: http://www.virclub.com/vir/index.php?option=com_content&task=category§io nid=33&id=133&Itemid=161 _____ From: Daniel1312 at aol.com [mailto:Daniel1312 at aol.com] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 3:30 AM To: d.swanson at earthlink.net; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] VIR Gold Cup Is that the Cheltenham Gold Cup? Daniel1312 in ENGLAND From KGROWLER at aol.com Fri Jun 8 05:30:51 2007 From: KGROWLER at aol.com (KGROWLER at aol.com) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 07:30:51 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] 5-speed in 1500 Midget (Was Re: Hello and Kingpin bushings?) Message-ID: PA wrote: <<>> It was Larry Macy. Installed in an OSHIT session. He wrote an excellent article on the kit and installation for 'MGB Driver'. Kim Tonry Downers Grove, Illinois, USA ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. From wsthompson at thicko.com Fri Jun 8 05:58:39 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 06:58:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Blackhawk & Mosport Message-ID: <000f01c7a9c4$624d0f50$26e72df0$@com> Hey y'all, For next weekend's race at Blackhawk, we've got folks stepping with food offerings. We could still use charcoal, beer and soft drinks, side dishes, chips, and deserts. I'd like to reserve the area for the Thicko trailer to the right if the tech barn as you face it, if possible. I hope to be Thurs. I will be at the track Fri., but did not sign up for Fri. practice. My motor that smoked a bearing at Road America is back together, and has been in the car for 2 weeks now. I'm trying to get a spare motor together for Mosport which is a week after Blackhawk. I've been trying to prepare Gary "Grenade" Kropf for the pucker factor at Mostport, where's it's entirely possible to actually sprain your ass on the first lap there. It'll be my first trip back there since "Fast Eddie" Craig Bielat and I made the trip in 100 degree weather, and Craig's Elite met an untimely demise. I'm going through the brakes on Redrum, and have to change the rear gear, then it's ready for load up. I still have to go through the Thicktone PA, and get it and the grille loaded. The Thicktones are making an appearance with a number of special guests. We're hoping my 90 year old father is feeling well enough to make it out for Sat. at the track. Dad underwent a vascular graft in his leg in Dec., and it's been a slow recovery. Dad's been coming out to the races for 15 years. If he makes it out, please stop by and with him a happy father's day. Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From thcollin at mtu.edu Fri Jun 8 06:08:07 2007 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 08:08:07 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] British Car Video Message-ID: <60313l$4cev6@email.mtu.edu> Here's a link to a neat video of the 1967 British Racing and Sports Car Club year in review. The video visits a variety of tracks and races in England. See a Sprite roll 5 times and the driver walks away unharmed! Mini's, Lotus 7's (Clubmans), F1, etc. http://www.metalmeet.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=121 The video is the 6th one down the list. It is BIG. If you are on a dial up, better pack a lunch as the movie is 24 minutes long play time. Download time is LONG. Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Fri Jun 8 06:12:56 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 08:12:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] e-mail address In-Reply-To: References: <5f00d9910706071920h718aa385jb3cdb080e300c540@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9D065403-4BFF-4CC8-88C8-69E51DF7B3A2@phillymgclub.com> Other folks email addys only show if you do not remove the trailer. Mine will show up below as does lewing (which I edited to show my point). THis is a function of Mailman, and only you get yours, unless you remove the trailer prior to hitting send. One thing I do not like, is that hitting reply only sends to the sender, not the list. Larry On Jun 7, 2007, at 10:26 PM, oldsaabguy wrote: > You're right by damn! > > All of the email messages do have your email at the bottom Derf.. ;-) > > Lester > > > On Jun 7, 2007, at 9:20 PM, derf wrote: > >> It is the new system. To get rid of it, unsubscribe. I think it >> only come to you so there is no fear of spam, if that is what you're >> worried about. All my messages have my email at the bottom now, too. >> Cheers, >> Derf >> _______________________________________________ >> lewing@ >> >> Edit your replies >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Fri Jun 8 06:32:28 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 08:32:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sorry Daniel, It is the Really Real, Real, Larry that has that conversion. And I love it. Would never go back. There is a company in CT that sells the conversion, but I had it shipped from England for less $$. It took a long weekend to get it in, but a lot of the extra time was chasing an engine (Don't ask). You use the standard 1500 bell housing and if you ever want to go back, you will need the little tube thingy in the center as it has to be cut to fit the 5 speed. It also uses standard 1500 clutch parts. The Really Real, Real, Larry On Jun 8, 2007, at 3:27 AM, Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: > One of the Larry's (not the real one) has a Ford type 9 in a 1500. > there is > an aluminiun adaptor plate that bolts the box to the standard bell > housing. > > Daniel1312 > > In a message dated 08/06/07 04:49:52 GMT Daylight Time, > PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net writes: > > >> You're right, Hal. Not for the 1500 '79. The Brits have a kit >> available, >> but it doesn't use the Datsun 5 speed. Seems to me someone on the >> list did >> that conversion. Back on the East coast as I recall. > -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at bbl.med.upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. From Daniel1312 at aol.com Fri Jun 8 06:43:17 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 08:43:17 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] 1500 5 speed Message-ID: Or you buy the standard but cast in aluminium alloy bell housing that Canley Classics sell. In a message dated 08/06/07 13:33:03 GMT Daylight Time, lmacy at phillymgclub.com writes: > use > the standard 1500 bell housing From Daniel1312 at aol.com Fri Jun 8 06:45:34 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 08:45:34 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Blackhawk & Mosport Message-ID: You mean Crisps? In a message dated 08/06/07 12:59:14 GMT Daylight Time, wsthompson at thicko.com writes: > chips, From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jun 8 06:47:40 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 8:47:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 71 Midget windshield wiper gearbox Message-ID: <20070608124740.FVXA1542.tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Does your cat listen to Zappa? Sorry, I have no knowledge of wiper internals! :( > From: philip.s.jones at comcast.net (Phil Jones) > > Just in case that's not enough to prompt a response: I have a democratic cat that likes guns. guinness, craftsman tools, cast aluminum wheel chocks and naked ladies. And my delete key works fine. > > Thank in advance for your insightful replies. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jun 8 06:53:22 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 8:53:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Ride Height Message-ID: <20070608125323.MCNP875.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Which then begs the question: What is the height on the passenger side rear? ( I know I'm going to get in trouble for using passenger and rear so close together. ) And, then, what is closer to original, the average of the 2, the higher measurement?? Bob, the troublemaker > From: KGROWLER at aol.com > My stock, still with original springs, '79 1500 sits at 5 3/4" to the bottom > of the sill at the front and at 6 3/4" at the rear on the left (driver's) > side. > > Kim Tonry > Downers Grove, Illinois, USA From Daniel1312 at aol.com Fri Jun 8 07:01:04 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 09:01:04 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Ride height Message-ID: Thanks Frank, Anyone have a good reason why the rear is always set higher than the front? Daniel1312 In a message dated 08/06/07 03:52:35 GMT Daylight Time, spritenut at comcast.net writes: > Daniel > > 71 Midget stock and tired. 7" front 8.5" rear > 58 Sprite stock and new 6" front 7" rear > 59 Sprite lowered 1" 5" front 6" rear > 1500 Midget stock 14" front 19" rear (only joking) > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jun 8 07:13:56 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 9:13:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? Message-ID: <20070608131356.STUR23861.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> A local brit car guru ( ex-guru? ) says 'BMW' is the 5 speed that the spridget wants. I asked if he had done it, and he said 'no, but I can'. I didn't want to be the guinea pig for one of his projects. > From: derf > > Hey, Paul, have you ever looked at the Miata tranny for a possible > conversion? I see them here and there for $150 and they're pretty > tough, handling 200+ horsepower in some applications. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri Jun 8 07:38:05 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 08:38:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ride Height In-Reply-To: <20070608125323.MCNP875.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20070608125323.MCNP875.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: I would guess it depends on the height of the passenger........... On 6/8/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > Which then begs the question: What is the height on the passenger side rear? ( I know I'm going to get in trouble for using passenger and rear so close together. ) From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jun 8 07:48:23 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 08:48:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ride height References: Message-ID: <01ef01c7a9d3$af1ebf90$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Anyone have a good reason why the rear is always set higher than the > front? Looks better that way? It was certainly the style. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri Jun 8 07:52:04 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 06:52:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Ride height In-Reply-To: <01ef01c7a9d3$af1ebf90$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: >> Anyone have a good reason why the rear is always set higher than the >> front? They go faster down hill. From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri Jun 8 08:03:50 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 07:03:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] e-mail address In-Reply-To: <9D065403-4BFF-4CC8-88C8-69E51DF7B3A2@phillymgclub.com> References: <5f00d9910706071920h718aa385jb3cdb080e300c540@mail.gmail.com> <9D065403-4BFF-4CC8-88C8-69E51DF7B3A2@phillymgclub.com> Message-ID: <466961C6.2020108@earthlink.net> >Larry Macy wrote: "One thing I do not like, is that hitting reply only sends to the sender, not the list." > Hmmmm. I guess I am lucky, for I can hit "reply all" and it goes to everyone the original note went to. Buster From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jun 8 08:05:20 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 10:05:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Ride Height Message-ID: <20070608140520.GLLM1542.tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> I knew I would get in trouble over that . . . > From: "Brad Fornal" > > I would guess it depends on the height of the passenger........... > > On 6/8/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > > Which then begs the question: What is the height on the passenger side rear? ( I know I'm going to get in trouble for using passenger and rear so close together. ) From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jun 8 08:10:04 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 10:10:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] e-mail address Message-ID: <20070608141004.TETZ23861.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> I get to hit "Reply All", select and cut "spridgets at autox.team.net" from the "Cc:", delete the addrs in the "To:" and paste in the "spridgets at autox.team.net" to the "To:". Just hitting "Reply" would be nice for me, but you guys would most likely get more wisecracks. :) RD > From: b-evans at earthlink.net > > >Larry Macy wrote: "One thing I do not like, is that hitting reply only sends to the sender, not the list." > > > Hmmmm. I guess I am lucky, for I can hit "reply all" and it goes to > everyone the original note went to. > > Buster From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jun 8 08:11:35 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 08:11:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Hi ya In-Reply-To: <4668F500.8070005@smarc.net> References: <4668F500.8070005@smarc.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706080711s32e2c18dq7c76852f0b6cc041@mail.gmail.com> Isn't the stock fuel pump the obnoxiously loud one? I'm sure several people on the list will trade you a good set of SUs and some cash for that Weber setup. Welcome to the best mailing list on the net. Cheers, Derf From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jun 8 08:14:07 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 09:14:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] e-mail address References: <5f00d9910706071920h718aa385jb3cdb080e300c540@mail.gmail.com><9D065403-4BFF-4CC8-88C8-69E51DF7B3A2@phillymgclub.com> <466961C6.2020108@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <020501c7a9d7$4746bef0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > >Larry Macy wrote: "One thing I do not like, is that hitting reply only > >sends to the sender, not the list." >> > Hmmmm. I guess I am lucky, for I can hit "reply all" and it goes to > everyone the original note went to. Ahh, but then you don't have a Mac, do you, Buster? From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri Jun 8 08:35:07 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 09:35:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hi ya In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706080711s32e2c18dq7c76852f0b6cc041@mail.gmail.com> References: <4668F500.8070005@smarc.net> <5f00d9910706080711s32e2c18dq7c76852f0b6cc041@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Generally, it is the Facet, or something similar, that runs constantly. Marc, if you will cut a square of rubber, and mount it between the pump and the bulkhead, you should be able to lessen the noise to a somewhat acceptable level. Derf, I replaced the Facet on the 68, with an SU off of the 65 BBQ'd Sprite. It still thumps, but about 3 or 4 pulses every 2 to 3 seconds. What I was always curious about, is when I go to start any of my cars, the SU will thump for 5 - 10 seconds, before it slows down and stops. I don't see any visible leakage on the carbs (stock SU's), so where does all the darn fuel go? On 6/8/07, derf wrote: > Isn't the stock fuel pump the obnoxiously loud one? > > I'm sure several people on the list will trade you a good set of SUs > and some cash for that Weber setup. > > Welcome to the best mailing list on the net. > Cheers, > Derf > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jun 8 08:37:01 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 08:37:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Hi ya In-Reply-To: References: <4668F500.8070005@smarc.net> <5f00d9910706080711s32e2c18dq7c76852f0b6cc041@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706080737q7bd43523t83b82bbce1c67fdb@mail.gmail.com> It just takes that many pumps to build up pressure. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri Jun 8 08:39:10 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 07:39:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] e-mail address In-Reply-To: <020501c7a9d7$4746bef0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: > Ahh, but then you don't have a Mac, do you, Buster? I'm pretty sure he does. I do, and I just hit "reply all". What mail program are you using? From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jun 8 08:41:50 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 10:41:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Blackhawk & Mosport Message-ID: <20070608144150.LECA13954.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Is this the event at Mosport that you refer to?: VARAC June 22-24, 2007 The 28th Vintage Racing Festival 40th anniversary Canadian Grand Prix F1 reunion Historic & Vintage Production Sports Racers Group 70+ I've never smoked a bearing. > From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" > My motor that smoked a bearing at Road America is back together, and has > been in the car for 2 weeks now. I'm trying to get a spare motor together > for Mosport which is a week after Blackhawk. I've been trying to prepare > Gary "Grenade" Kropf for the pucker factor at Mostport, where's it's > entirely possible to actually sprain your ass on the first lap there. It'll > be my first trip back there since "Fast Eddie" Craig Bielat and I made the > trip in 100 degree weather, and Craig's Elite met an untimely demise. From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jun 8 08:44:52 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 09:44:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hi ya In-Reply-To: References: <4668F500.8070005@smarc.net> <5f00d9910706080711s32e2c18dq7c76852f0b6cc041@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070608094304.03399bf8@nosimport.com> Another silent mounting for a Facet, is to use an MGB transmission mount, whose 2 ear holes line up to the pump, and it has 1 stud on the other side of the rubber block that is easily mounted. Peter C == At 09:35 AM 6/8/2007, Brad Fornal wrote: >Generally, it is the Facet, or something similar, that runs >constantly. Marc, if you will cut a square of rubber, and mount it >between the pump and the bulkhead, you should be able to lessen the >noise to a somewhat acceptable level. >Derf, I replaced the Facet on the 68, with an SU off of the 65 BBQ'd >Sprite. It still thumps, but about 3 or 4 pulses every 2 to 3 seconds. >What I was always curious about, is when I go to start any of my cars, >the SU will thump for 5 - 10 seconds, before it slows down and stops. >I don't see any visible leakage on the carbs (stock SU's), so where >does all the darn fuel go? From jlaird237 at cox.net Fri Jun 8 08:49:02 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 09:49:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hi ya References: <4668F500.8070005@smarc.net><5f00d9910706080711s32e2c18dq7c76852f0b6cc041@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00a801c7a9dc$27b633e0$15bf0e44@personal> No where, it is just building pressure. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Fornal" To: "derf" Cc: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hi ya > Generally, it is the Facet, or something similar, that runs > constantly. Marc, if you will cut a square of rubber, and mount it > between the pump and the bulkhead, you should be able to lessen the > noise to a somewhat acceptable level. > Derf, I replaced the Facet on the 68, with an SU off of the 65 BBQ'd > Sprite. It still thumps, but about 3 or 4 pulses every 2 to 3 seconds. > What I was always curious about, is when I go to start any of my cars, > the SU will thump for 5 - 10 seconds, before it slows down and stops. > I don't see any visible leakage on the carbs (stock SU's), so where > does all the darn fuel go? > > On 6/8/07, derf wrote: >> Isn't the stock fuel pump the obnoxiously loud one? >> >> I'm sure several people on the list will trade you a good set of SUs >> and some cash for that Weber setup. >> >> Welcome to the best mailing list on the net. >> Cheers, >> Derf >> _______________________________________________ >> tequila.brad at gmail.com >> >> Edit your replies >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > > > -- > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.11/838 - Release Date: 6/7/2007 > 2:21 PM From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri Jun 8 08:50:07 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 09:50:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Blackhawk & Mosport In-Reply-To: <20070608144150.LECA13954.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20070608144150.LECA13954.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: Nether have I, what kinda buzz do you get from it, WST? Reminds me of the time my brother concocted a power hitter from one of those old "bag over the head" portable hair dryers, and a WWII canister gas mask. LETHAL buzz from that bad boy!!! On 6/8/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > > I've never smoked a bearing. From ckotting at wideopenwest.com Fri Jun 8 08:51:17 2007 From: ckotting at wideopenwest.com (CHRIS KOTTING) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 09:51:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hi ya In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706080737q7bd43523t83b82bbce1c67fdb@mail.gmail.com> References: <4668F500.8070005@smarc.net> <5f00d9910706080711s32e2c18dq7c76852f0b6cc041@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910706080737q7bd43523t83b82bbce1c67fdb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070608144958.M70167@wideopenwest.com> And the pressure loss isn't due to a leak. It's just that the seals in the pump aren't perfect, so the pressure bleeds back through the pump. Chris K. On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 08:37:01 -0600, derf wrote > It just takes that many pumps to build up pressure. > _______________________________________________ > ckotting at wideopenwest.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wsthompson at thicko.com Fri Jun 8 08:54:49 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 09:54:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Blackhawk & Mosport In-Reply-To: <20070608144150.LECA13954.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20070608144150.LECA13954.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <002c01c7a9dc$f815dc70$e8419550$@com> Well, it was more "anviled" than "smoked'.... Yes, that's the event. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Duquette Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 9:42 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Blackhawk & Mosport Is this the event at Mosport that you refer to?: VARAC June 22-24, 2007 The 28th Vintage Racing Festival 40th anniversary Canadian Grand Prix F1 reunion Historic & Vintage Production Sports Racers Group 70+ I've never smoked a bearing. > From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" > My motor that smoked a bearing at Road America is back together, and has > been in the car for 2 weeks now. I'm trying to get a spare motor together > for Mosport which is a week after Blackhawk. I've been trying to prepare > Gary "Grenade" Kropf for the pucker factor at Mostport, where's it's > entirely possible to actually sprain your ass on the first lap there. It'll > be my first trip back there since "Fast Eddie" Craig Bielat and I made the > trip in 100 degree weather, and Craig's Elite met an untimely demise. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri Jun 8 09:09:20 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 10:09:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hi ya In-Reply-To: <20070608144958.M70167@wideopenwest.com> References: <4668F500.8070005@smarc.net> <5f00d9910706080711s32e2c18dq7c76852f0b6cc041@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910706080737q7bd43523t83b82bbce1c67fdb@mail.gmail.com> <20070608144958.M70167@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: My thanks to all of you that explained this "mystery" to me. I didn't really worry before, and now it is not longer even an issue. Thank you Brad On 6/8/07, CHRIS KOTTING wrote: > And the pressure loss isn't due to a leak. It's just that the seals in the > pump aren't perfect, so the pressure bleeds back through the pump. > > Chris K. > > On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 08:37:01 -0600, derf wrote > > It just takes that many pumps to build up pressure. > > _______________________________________________ > > ckotting at wideopenwest.com > > > > Edit your replies > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Fri Jun 8 09:30:49 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 11:30:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] e-mail address In-Reply-To: <20070608141004.TETZ23861.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20070608141004.TETZ23861.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: As opposed to ???? On Jun 8, 2007, at 10:10 AM, Robert Duquette wrote: > I get to hit "Reply All", select and cut "spridgets at autox.team.net" > from the "Cc:", delete the addrs in the "To:" and paste in the "spridgets at autox.team.net > " to the "To:". > > Just hitting "Reply" would be nice for me, but you guys would most > likely get more wisecracks. :) > > RD > >> From: b-evans at earthlink.net >> >>> Larry Macy wrote: "One thing I do not like, is that hitting reply >>> only sends to the sender, not the list." >>> >> Hmmmm. I guess I am lucky, for I can hit "reply all" and it goes to >> everyone the original note went to. >> >> Buster > s From smarc at smarc.net Fri Jun 8 10:05:13 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 12:05:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hi ya In-Reply-To: <20070608144958.M70167@wideopenwest.com> References: <4668F500.8070005@smarc.net> <5f00d9910706080711s32e2c18dq7c76852f0b6cc041@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910706080737q7bd43523t83b82bbce1c67fdb@mail.gmail.com> <20070608144958.M70167@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: <46697E39.9020802@smarc.net> Just want to say thanks for all the info you folks have sent so far. Kinda busy today so will read thru more later. Not sure which are sent to me or the list. Probably depends on how your mail program handles Reply-To-All. BTW, my toys can be seen at http://www.smarc.net/MG Marc From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Fri Jun 8 10:53:45 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 09:53:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? References: <410-2200764719238685@earthlink.net><01df01c7a955$12e94420$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <5f00d9910706071819l68563594hbf9517484356f8ed@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <003701c7a9ed$95ac7880$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Just not good, eh? Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "David Lieb" Cc: "Spridget List" Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? > Fried Okra isn't bad. > _______________________________________________ > pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Fri Jun 8 10:56:33 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 09:56:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Hi ya In-Reply-To: <46697E39.9020802@smarc.net> References: <4668F500.8070005@smarc.net><5f00d9910706080711s32e2c18dq7c76852f0b6cc041@mail.gmail.com><5f00d9910706080737q7bd43523t83b82bbce1c67fdb@mail.gmail.com><20070608144958.M70167@wideopenwest.com> <46697E39.9020802@smarc.net> Message-ID: <1eae0a52908a4cb30a4f68a.20070608095633.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Nice cars Marc! You know looking at the last picture of your Midget reminds me. Even though I have a Bugeye, the view from the driver's seat of a square body is just as different and cool as a Bugeye. You just don't have that view from any of today's lumps they call cars. The fenders sticking up on both sides of the low sloping bonnet and in the case of the Bugeye the headlight pods really set these cars apart from anything else I have ever driven. Just one aspect that makes these cars so special. Everything about these cars is very high on the fun factor. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Marc > Just want to say thanks for all the info you folks have sent so far. > Kinda busy today so will read thru more later. Not sure which are sent > to me or the list. Probably depends on how your mail program handles > Reply-To-All. > > BTW, my toys can be seen at http://www.smarc.net/MG > > Marc From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jun 8 10:57:48 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 10:57:48 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? In-Reply-To: <003701c7a9ed$95ac7880$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <410-2200764719238685@earthlink.net> <01df01c7a955$12e94420$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <5f00d9910706071819l68563594hbf9517484356f8ed@mail.gmail.com> <003701c7a9ed$95ac7880$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706080957i1b4e03b8h91d4d5f48a6e3745@mail.gmail.com> > Just not good, eh? Relatively not good. If you are starving then it might taste like Ambrosia. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jun 8 11:15:36 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 12:15:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? References: <410-2200764719238685@earthlink.net> <01df01c7a955$12e94420$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <5f00d9910706071819l68563594hbf9517484356f8ed@mail.gmail.com> <003701c7a9ed$95ac7880$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <5f00d9910706080957i1b4e03b8h91d4d5f48a6e3745@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <023201c7a9f0$a18854a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >> Just not good, eh? > Relatively not good. If you are starving then it might taste like > Ambrosia. I think this is the appropriate place to quote some lyrics from Lou and Peter Berryman's song "I Don't Believe You Like My Shirt": To someone in a famine, who used to be a glutton, It'd taste okay to him To a hermit in the desert, wit' absolutely nuttin' It'd taste okay to him If I'd been in a coma for half a generation, dining intravenously 'N you had lied a little, and said my shirt was lovely, It'd taste okay to me. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jun 8 12:24:55 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 13:24:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] e-mail address In-Reply-To: References: <020501c7a9d7$4746bef0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <43840a7e0706081124l6e453b04l3202c0120ee6536@mail.gmail.com> I use Mozilla Thunderbird on my laptop, Eudora 7 and Netscape Mail, on my desk top and all programs offer a "reply all" feature. From my "Gmail" account (where I am right now) the web based interface also has a "reply all" function. Back when I was stupid and plagued by viruses and worms I got from "Outlook Express", "Outlook" also had a "reply all" feature. The brand of computer probably has nothing to do with it. It is the software you use. I don't use Apple hardware and software but I've seen the mail interface for OS-10 and it has this feature. I also run triple boot with Windows XP Pro, RedHat Fedora Linux, and IBM OS2. All of the mail software for these OS's have "reply all" functions. In fact I used to run Solaris and the results were the same. Even my "OpenOffice" open source mail software includes this feature. I think Billy is correct to ask which mail client you are using.... On 6/8/07, Billy Zoom wrote: > > Ahh, but then you don't have a Mac, do you, Buster? > I'm pretty sure he does. I do, and I just hit "reply all". > What mail program are you using? > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- 1964 R60/2 BMW 1968 MG Midget 1976 R90/6 BMW 1990 K100LT BMW Thomas Huxley - "It is not who is right, but what is right, that is of importance." From dwramsey at worldnet.att.net Fri Jun 8 12:48:47 2007 From: dwramsey at worldnet.att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 11:48:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? In-Reply-To: <003701c7a9ed$95ac7880$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <20070608184711.4FD6F187A4F@autox.team.net> Yea, and next you'll be telling me, it taste like chicken. Crash Just not good, eh? Pa > Fried Okra isn't bad. From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Fri Jun 8 14:46:51 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 16:46:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] e-mail address In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0706081124l6e453b04l3202c0120ee6536@mail.gmail.com> References: <020501c7a9d7$4746bef0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <43840a7e0706081124l6e453b04l3202c0120ee6536@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <30281FCA-7141-4515-B9A2-14F8AFB76AC9@phillymgclub.com> Jeez, folks, talk about missing the point. In the old system, "Reply" went to Spridgets. In the new system, "Reply" only goes to the sender. Reply all does the same as always, replies to all. Larry On Jun 8, 2007, at 2:24 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > I use Mozilla Thunderbird on my laptop, Eudora 7 and Netscape Mail, on > my desk top and all programs offer a "reply all" feature. From my > "Gmail" account (where I am right now) the web based interface also > has a "reply all" function. Back when I was stupid and plagued by > viruses and worms I got from "Outlook Express", "Outlook" also had a > "reply all" feature. > > The brand of computer probably has nothing to do with it. It is the > software you use. I don't use Apple hardware and software but I've > seen the mail interface for OS-10 and it has this feature. > > I also run triple boot with Windows XP Pro, RedHat Fedora Linux, and > IBM OS2. All of the mail software for these OS's have "reply all" > functions. In fact I used to run Solaris and the results were the > same. Even my "OpenOffice" open source mail software includes this > feature. > > I think Billy is correct to ask which mail client you are using.... > > On 6/8/07, Billy Zoom wrote: >>> Ahh, but then you don't have a Mac, do you, Buster? >> I'm pretty sure he does. I do, and I just hit "reply all". >> What mail program are you using? >> _______________________________________________ >> bmwwxman at gmail.com >> >> Edit your replies >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > > > -- > 1964 R60/2 BMW > 1968 MG Midget > 1976 R90/6 BMW > 1990 K100LT BMW > Thomas Huxley - "It is not who is right, but what is right, that is of > importance." > _______________________________________________ > lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wsthompson at thicko.com Fri Jun 8 14:47:51 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 15:47:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] CRAZY f'ing Porsche driver Message-ID: <004101c7aa0e$494f0d10$dbed2730$@com> http://www.dpccars.com/car-videos/06-01-07page-Crazy-Porsche-driver.htm Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jun 8 14:54:08 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 14:54:08 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] e-mail address In-Reply-To: <30281FCA-7141-4515-B9A2-14F8AFB76AC9@phillymgclub.com> References: <020501c7a9d7$4746bef0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <43840a7e0706081124l6e453b04l3202c0120ee6536@mail.gmail.com> <30281FCA-7141-4515-B9A2-14F8AFB76AC9@phillymgclub.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706081354o1db832a2r12c0df19d83feac1@mail.gmail.com> Maybe if you get a Mac and Mozilla open source you can create a "Reply Most" that will reply to most or a "Reply All But Jackasses" that will omit certain listers. But, I may get less mail that way, being certain I am most probably likely to be possibly on some people's jackass list. From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jun 8 14:58:15 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 14:58:15 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] CRAZY f'ing Porsche driver In-Reply-To: <004101c7aa0e$494f0d10$dbed2730$@com> References: <004101c7aa0e$494f0d10$dbed2730$@com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706081358j1c929e27l94be3ca8c8ffa4e3@mail.gmail.com> Something in that title is redundant. I'm not sure if it is crazy and porsche driver, or f'ing and porsche driver, or what but it definitely is redundant. Gotta like the sounds those two cars make, though. From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Fri Jun 8 15:12:45 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 14:12:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? References: <20070608184711.4FD6F187A4F@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <01ef01c7aa11$c3e243a0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Not me! But I can do a pretty good discourse on home made Boston Baked beans! Yankee stuff! Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ramsey" To: "'Paul Asgeirsson'" Cc: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? > Yea, and next you'll be telling me, it taste like chicken. > Crash > > > Just not good, eh? > > Pa > > > > > Fried Okra isn't bad. From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri Jun 8 15:12:42 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 14:12:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] e-mail address In-Reply-To: <30281FCA-7141-4515-B9A2-14F8AFB76AC9@phillymgclub.com> References: <020501c7a9d7$4746bef0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <43840a7e0706081124l6e453b04l3202c0120ee6536@mail.gmail.com> <30281FCA-7141-4515-B9A2-14F8AFB76AC9@phillymgclub.com> Message-ID: <4669C64A.4010903@earthlink.net> >Larry Macy wrote: "Jeez, folks, talk about missing the point. In the old system, "Reply" went to Spridgets. In the new system, "Reply" only goes to the sender. > I dunno, but with both the "old" and "new" systems, using Windows system/Netscape browser/Earthlink ISP, I have always hit "Reply" for a private message to only the sender, and "Reply All" for a messenger to the entire list. The only change I have seen are the taglines for the sender and recpient's address, as well as the list and archives websites. Buster From keikoroo at sbcglobal.net Fri Jun 8 15:37:03 2007 From: keikoroo at sbcglobal.net (STANLEY YU) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 14:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Hi Buster Message-ID: <701771.68207.qm@web82815.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Buster, Welcome home, sounds like you and Frank had a real good time and I glad Pam is home with you. Say Hi to her for me. Stan From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Fri Jun 8 15:39:31 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 16:39:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Oil filter Effup.. References: Message-ID: <3EA492A1-E215-4BE3-A7DA-D9B6B857BACE@comcast.net> Ok, so i decided to keep the original type oil filter and after only 2 years I have decided to change it. .. and now oil is leaking everywhere from the top part of the filter bowl where it screws into the housing on the block. I am guessing that this means that I have not put the top "O" ring in the right place or it has moved. Is there a trick that I am missing? Lester From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri Jun 8 16:18:50 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 15:18:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] e-mail address In-Reply-To: <30281FCA-7141-4515-B9A2-14F8AFB76AC9@phillymgclub.com> Message-ID: > In the new system, "Reply" only goes to the sender. On my computers, it's always been this way. From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Fri Jun 8 16:44:25 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 18:44:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] e-mail address In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3D05F9ED-03C5-4B9D-B95F-AD0AB0B867A1@phillymgclub.com> OK< I am having a halulinatory moment. Or a flashback. Maybe this is the only list I belong to that does not do it that way. I forget, I am on vacation. Leary On Jun 8, 2007, at 6:18 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: >> In the new system, "Reply" only goes to the sender. > On my computers, it's always been this way. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Fri Jun 8 16:59:01 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 17:59:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Fwd: Oil filter Effup.. In-Reply-To: <3EA492A1-E215-4BE3-A7DA-D9B6B857BACE@comcast.net> References: <3EA492A1-E215-4BE3-A7DA-D9B6B857BACE@comcast.net> Message-ID: nevermind.. I did not have the "O" ring seated well enough. All is well.. nothing to see here..move along.. Lester On Jun 8, 2007, at 4:39 PM, oldsaabguy wrote: > > Ok, > > so i decided to keep the original type oil filter and after only 2 > years I have decided to change it. > .. and now oil is leaking everywhere from the top part of the filter > bowl where it screws into the housing on the block. I am guessing > that this means that I have not put the top "O" ring in the right > place or it has moved. Is there a trick that I am missing? > > Lester > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > __._,_.___ > Messages in this topic (1)Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | > Calendar > If you must unsubscribe from the Bugeye Interest Group, please send > an email to: bugeye-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > If you no longer want to receive emails, but wish to remain a > member of the group, you may go to the website and change your > subscription to "Web Only" and you will not receive any emails. > > Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch > format to Traditional > Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe > Recent Activity > 4 > New Members > 5 > New Photos > Visit Your Group > SPONSORED LINKS > Austin healey > Austin healey for sale > Health Zone > Look your best! > > Groups to help you > > look & feel great. > > Yahoo! News > Sports News > > Get up to the > > minute sports news > > Yahoo! Finance > It's Now Personal > > Guides, news, > > advice & more. > > . > > __,_._,___ From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Jun 8 17:09:10 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 19:09:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hi ya In-Reply-To: <4668F500.8070005@smarc.net> References: <4668F500.8070005@smarc.net> Message-ID: <4669E196.4020909@comcast.net> Marc wrote: > Howdy - > > Just joined spridgets because a 73 RWA Midget has taken up residence in > my garage as of this week. Marc If the steering does not return, check the top nuts on the king pins. You mentioned they are new, I bet they are over tightened. There are shims that go under the trunion to give the pins a bit of clearance so you can steer the car. I put the jack stands on the rear spring mount in front of the rear wheels and on the front cross member. If the king pins are loose, the rack comes out pretty easy. Once the car is up, it should only take finger pressure to turn the steering wheel. Check those king pin nuts. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From smarc at smarc.net Fri Jun 8 17:23:52 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 19:23:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hi ya In-Reply-To: <4669E196.4020909@comcast.net> References: <4668F500.8070005@smarc.net> <4669E196.4020909@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4669E508.3090503@smarc.net> I disconnected the tie rod ends from the steering levers. Both kingpin assembly's swivel freely. They look pretty new, and there is no discernible play. I can turn the steering wheel with one finger, but it doesn't feel as free as I think it should. Pushing or pulling the tie rod ends is difficult, it's very stiff. Shouldn't it move pretty freely? it's just the rack and the steering wheel/shaft... On my B, I can do that easily... Marc Frank Clarici wrote: > Marc wrote: > >> Howdy - >> >> Just joined spridgets because a 73 RWA Midget has taken up residence >> in my garage as of this week. > > Marc > > If the steering does not return, check the top nuts on the king pins. > You mentioned they are new, I bet they are over tightened. > There are shims that go under the trunion to give the pins a bit of > clearance so you can steer the car. > > I put the jack stands on the rear spring mount in front of the rear > wheels and on the front cross member. > If the king pins are loose, the rack comes out pretty easy. > Once the car is up, it should only take finger pressure to turn the > steering wheel. Check those king pin nuts. From smarc at smarc.net Fri Jun 8 17:30:18 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 19:30:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hi ya In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706080711s32e2c18dq7c76852f0b6cc041@mail.gmail.com> References: <4668F500.8070005@smarc.net> <5f00d9910706080711s32e2c18dq7c76852f0b6cc041@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4669E68A.7000702@smarc.net> I don't think the SU fuel pumps are that loud... at least they dont buzz constantly, just a few clicks here and there. Kinda helps you to know whats going on... The weber and manifold are definitely going to be available... Trying to source a complete SU set up... Marc derf wrote: > Isn't the stock fuel pump the obnoxiously loud one? > > I'm sure several people on the list will trade you a good set of SUs > and some cash for that Weber setup. > > Welcome to the best mailing list on the net. > Cheers, > Derf From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Fri Jun 8 17:44:42 2007 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 19:44:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Fwd: Oil filter Effup.. Message-ID: <24449638.1181346282412.JavaMail.root@wmvirt9> Lester, FYI It will do the same thing if you forget to take the old "O" ring out and add the new one to it too. I learned this when I was 16 and got my first Bugeye. Kent 1960 Bugeye 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen ---- oldsaabguy wrote: > nevermind.. I did not have the "O" ring seated well enough. All is > well.. nothing to see here..move along.. > > .. and now oil is leaking everywhere from the top part of the filter > > bowl where it screws into the housing on the block. I am guessing > > that this means that I have not put the top "O" ring in the right > > place or it has moved. Is there a trick that I am missing? From smarc at smarc.net Fri Jun 8 18:01:08 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 20:01:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hi ya In-Reply-To: <46697E39.9020802@smarc.net> References: <4668F500.8070005@smarc.net> <5f00d9910706080711s32e2c18dq7c76852f0b6cc041@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910706080737q7bd43523t83b82bbce1c67fdb@mail.gmail.com> <20070608144958.M70167@wideopenwest.com> <46697E39.9020802@smarc.net> Message-ID: <4669EDC4.2000502@smarc.net> Front brakes were a mess!!!! Tab washers weren't bent up against the bolts. The bolts weren't very tight Hoses are wasted. RF pads were gone, pad rivets made the deepest gouges I have ever seen in a rotor... Calipers seem pretty frozen up... Brake fluid was nasty... LF pads seemed ok, so maybe a bad hose on the left side caused the right side to do all the work, hence the extreme wear on that side? Gonna be an all new parts deal. Bummer... Looks like the only thing salvageable is the rear drums... and those had only one retaining screw each - Is that normal for midgets? The wheel bearings were smooth and tight, and the grease seals appear new... Marc Marc wrote: > Just want to say thanks for all the info you folks have sent so far. > Kinda busy today so will read thru more later. Not sure which are sent > to me or the list. Probably depends on how your mail program handles > Reply-To-All. > > BTW, my toys can be seen at http://www.smarc.net/MG From fisher at hctc.net Fri Jun 8 11:20:33 2007 From: fisher at hctc.net (Fisher or Elizabeth Jones) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 12:20:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility ? In-Reply-To: <008301c7a980$55580b90$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> References: <008301c7a980$55580b90$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: Michael, This is in reply to your message to me, that I have also cc'd to the list as you did, and it will be my last comment on this particular subject. It will also serve to answer others on this list. I have been on this list for ......... oh .......... about 12 years or so. More than many, less than some. I have been fortunate to meet some really great people here, and am firm friends with many of them. We hosted "Spridgetstock" for two years running, until personal issues made it difficult. Robert Houston asked me if we'd consider doing it again, and we agreed that we would, but we haven't got any further with that at the moment. People came from all over the country, and they came with anything British, or not even British, but just wanting to get together with similar minded folks. I started an on-line register of LBC minded people, who would be willing to lend assistance, be it tools, labour, towing and even accommodation, etc. for those travelling across this country and encountering problems with their temperamental vehicles. I have championed the side trips we often take, which were oft times frowned upon when the list was in it's earlier stages. I, too, suggested the delete button for those not interested in a particular topic, be it guns or cats or whatever. I likened the list to a party, where one could mingle and sample the various on-going conversations, and could move on 'till finding one that suited our own tastes. I can attest to the fact that when American elections have been forthcoming someone would make a comment, express an opinion, which did not suit everyone on this list, and the proponents were advised, sometimes kindly and sometimes not, to take that kind of discussion off-list. When I had more time, and didn't have the personal issues that I have today, I offered suggestions and parts. Not just to this list either, but to other Brit. lists, too. These days I barely have time to monitor the messages, but the whole tone of this list has changed anyway. This is a living list, a community of diverse peoples, and as such one would expect it to evolve and change - to grow. I must admit to finding some of the conversations very juvenile, and use my delete key with alacrity. But I must also acknowledge that I have gained much from it, and am thankful for it. Although I have lived in this country, with my Texan husband, for many years, I have maintained my British citizenship. I own land in America, pay American taxes, but am still very British - just ask Brad should you question that. I am also a dyed in the wool Royalist. I may hold very poor opinions of certain of the Royal Family, but my monarch, Queen Elizabeth II, is beyond reproach - in my company - again, just ask Brad. Ergo, because I hold her in high regard, I am offended when she is reviled. I firmly believe in having the courage of one's convictions - and am not given to keeping silent when my scruples demand otherwise - yet again - ask Brad. I am not a prude, but when some threads go beyond the pail, I just prefer to delete. I am a grey haired old lady, but my children, and our grandchild have been somewhat instrumental in keeping me 'of today'. I adore fast cars and FI racing. I'm not fond of much of the music Brad likes, but my husband, who is II years older than I , really appreciates it. He is one of the "old rocker' types. Perhaps you might even like to ask Brad about Buttery Whatsits, that alone may give you more insight, should you even be interested. Having said all of that, and I could go on but I won't , if you all feel that it would be better that I unsubscribe, I'll happily do just that. This list is not the center of my life, although I should be sorry to miss much of the camaraderie. elizabeth Jones Comfort, TX At 10:51 PM 6/7/2007, Michael Conn wrote: >Elizabeth, > >That's the point. You do have to express your opinions to the >world. Otherwise, what's left? > >I think you're wrong on the American politician point. (You just >watch what e-mails that comment will produce.) I'm afraid you're >gonna leave yourself wide open to endless correspondence which will >probably go on for years. > >___________________________ >> >> Fisher or Elizabeth Jones >> "A gentleman does not motor about after dark." Joseph Lucas 1920 >>_______________________________________________ >>mconn2 at bright.net ---------- Fisher or Elizabeth Jones "A gentleman does not motor about after dark." Joseph Lucas 1920 From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Fri Jun 8 18:56:58 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 19:56:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility ? References: <008301c7a980$55580b90$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <01ff01c7aa31$159f9d90$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> Which Michael had absolutly should NOT have done since your messges TO him were NOT "on list", E.!! From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jun 8 20:03:45 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 20:03:45 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Hi ya In-Reply-To: <4669E68A.7000702@smarc.net> References: <4668F500.8070005@smarc.net> <5f00d9910706080711s32e2c18dq7c76852f0b6cc041@mail.gmail.com> <4669E68A.7000702@smarc.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706081903r5813729dg5cf93f8ba4c3bda7@mail.gmail.com> "Trying to source" should always start here. I had two extra sets of SU setups but I let them go with the car I just sold. If you need new parts, Peter C, Paul A, and Ed can fix you up. No better service, no better parts, no better prices anywhere. If your Weber is a side draft, then you'll have no end of offers for cash plus SUs for your carb setup. Downdrafts are good, too but not as good as the side drafts. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jun 8 20:05:35 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 20:05:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Hi ya In-Reply-To: <4669EDC4.2000502@smarc.net> References: <4668F500.8070005@smarc.net> <5f00d9910706080711s32e2c18dq7c76852f0b6cc041@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910706080737q7bd43523t83b82bbce1c67fdb@mail.gmail.com> <20070608144958.M70167@wideopenwest.com> <46697E39.9020802@smarc.net> <4669EDC4.2000502@smarc.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706081905v4994b26bk87ad3ae8df4ab95@mail.gmail.com> > Gonna be an all new parts deal. Bummer... Looks like the only thing > salvageable is the rear drums... and those had only one retaining screw > each - Is that normal for midgets? Yes, the lug nuts hold the drum on, too. Call Peter C at World Wide. He is a lister and knows the cars and the parts. He will get you what you need for the right price. Cheers, Derf From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Fri Jun 8 20:19:04 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 19:19:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? References: <20070608131356.STUR23861.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <006901c7aa3c$8e651f60$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Sounds interesting. BUT!! I suspect that BMW 5 speeds are not in the old 210 5 speed range of yore. BTW, which model and years on the BMW? Later, Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 6:13 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? > A local brit car guru ( ex-guru? ) says 'BMW' is the 5 speed that the spridget wants. I asked if he had done it, and he said 'no, but I can'. I didn't want to be the guinea pig for one of his projects. > > > From: derf > > > > Hey, Paul, have you ever looked at the Miata tranny for a possible > > conversion? I see them here and there for $150 and they're pretty > > tough, handling 200+ horsepower in some applications. From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jun 8 20:18:37 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 20:18:37 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility ? In-Reply-To: References: <008301c7a980$55580b90$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706081918t5af3f9e9nad1ae1bb4ee216cb@mail.gmail.com> If you unsubscribe, then you are missing the point. Freedom of speech is a two edged sword. In order to be able to state your opinions, you must also be able to let others state their opinions. Even if they're wrong. I've been on the list for a while. There is no better list. The people make this list great. Diversity is the spice of life. Keep that stiff British upper lip. Defend your Queen's honor when she's attacked. Don't let a bunch of criminal Colonists chase you away. This is like a big social gathering. I guarantee that you won't like everyone on the list personally. I may be your "jackass nemesis" here. Someone else may be. The wisdom, knowledge, and camaraderie of this list are worth putting up with a few comments that are made in ignorance or poor taste. I make all sorts of comments. However, if I were to get some off-list emails from Frank, Buster, et. al., whom I consider to be list "core" members, telling me to back off, I would. Maybe I could resurrect "Montana Bob" to show what a real jackass is. Cheers, Derf From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Fri Jun 8 20:32:05 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 19:32:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hi ya References: <4668F500.8070005@smarc.net><5f00d9910706080711s32e2c18dq7c76852f0b6cc041@mail.gmail.com><5f00d9910706080737q7bd43523t83b82bbce1c67fdb@mail.gmail.com><20070608144958.M70167@wideopenwest.com> <46697E39.9020802@smarc.net> <4669EDC4.2000502@smarc.net> Message-ID: <009101c7aa3e$5ff5ff80$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Hi Marc, Sounds semi normal for many newly purchased cars. All these parts are available new and/or rebuilt and are pretty reasonable. Typically going totally through a cars braking system prior to use is a good policy. Keep in mind that going/running is pretty much an option, stopping is DEFINITELY not!! Many cars have no screws on the drums or axles. The lug nuts keep all that together when holding the wheels in place. A beautiful paint job does not make the car run and stop better!! Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc" To: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hi ya > Front brakes were a mess!!!! Tab washers weren't bent up against the > bolts. The bolts weren't very tight Hoses are wasted. RF pads were gone, > pad rivets made the deepest gouges I have ever seen in a rotor... > Calipers seem pretty frozen up... Brake fluid was nasty... LF pads > seemed ok, so maybe a bad hose on the left side caused the right side to > do all the work, hence the extreme wear on that side? > > Gonna be an all new parts deal. Bummer... Looks like the only thing > salvageable is the rear drums... and those had only one retaining screw > each - Is that normal for midgets? > > The wheel bearings were smooth and tight, and the grease seals appear new... > > Marc > > > > Marc wrote: > > Just want to say thanks for all the info you folks have sent so far. > > Kinda busy today so will read thru more later. Not sure which are sent > > to me or the list. Probably depends on how your mail program handles > > Reply-To-All. > > > > BTW, my toys can be seen at http://www.smarc.net/MG From dbcooper292 at aol.com Fri Jun 8 20:45:10 2007 From: dbcooper292 at aol.com (dbcooper292 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 22:45:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] CRAZY f'ing Porsche driver In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706081358j1c929e27l94be3ca8c8ffa4e3@mail.gmail.com> References: <004101c7aa0e$494f0d10$dbed2730$@com> <5f00d9910706081358j1c929e27l94be3ca8c8ffa4e3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8C9785754D9207F-DF0-FBE4@webmail-de14.sysops.aol.com> B I have a Porsche and I am doing this behind you.B DB -----Original Message----- From: derf To: Wm. Severin Thompson Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 4:58 pm Subject: Re: [Spridgets] CRAZY f'ing Porsche driver Something in that title is redundant. I'm not sure if it is crazy and orsche driver, or f'ing and porsche driver, or what but it definitely s redundant. otta like the sounds those two cars make, though. ______________________________________________ bcooper292 at aol.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. From franks97 at verizon.net Fri Jun 8 20:47:05 2007 From: franks97 at verizon.net (Franks) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 19:47:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NW & Portland Historics Message-ID: Anyone on the lists attending the Seattle and/or Portland Historics in July? The usual LBC group will be paddocked on the grass in Portland. This group includes a good selection of spridgets, some mgb9s, a europa, a Ladybird (English clubman car) and we even let a few Alfa9s hang out around the fringe ;-) A couple of us will bring out the BBQ9s and attempt to outdo the Salmon feast we had last year at the Columbia River Classic. It also looks like a group of us will be making the trip to BC for the VRCBC Historics in August. If anyone is coming to Portland from out of town let me know and we can try and save you a spot. -- David Franks franks97 at verizon.net 67 AH Sprite #82 Blue http://www.oregonscca.com/vintage http://www.portlandhistorics.com From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jun 8 20:53:35 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 20:53:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] CRAZY f'ing Porsche driver In-Reply-To: <8C9785754D9207F-DF0-FBE4@webmail-de14.sysops.aol.com> References: <004101c7aa0e$494f0d10$dbed2730$@com> <5f00d9910706081358j1c929e27l94be3ca8c8ffa4e3@mail.gmail.com> <8C9785754D9207F-DF0-FBE4@webmail-de14.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706081953y4e930af9x95ad4178217a0a38@mail.gmail.com> Yes, behind me, of course. When my forced induction system comes on line I expect to be in front of many surprised Porsches, Mustangs, etc.. From fisher at hctc.net Fri Jun 8 20:53:48 2007 From: fisher at hctc.net (Fisher or Elizabeth Jones) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 21:53:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility ? In-Reply-To: <005401c7aa3b$ff8ef5e0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <008301c7a980$55580b90$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <005401c7aa3b$ff8ef5e0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: Thank you Paul, I appreciate your comments. It is good to know that I am not entirely alone. I have gained much from this list, not least of which people I call friend who I would not, otherwise have met, even though some of them are names without faces. We have all shared sorrow and joy; real pleasure and real sadness; triumph and defeat, as one does with friends and family. I always thought of the members of this list in that category. Thanks again elizabeth At 09:14 PM 6/8/2007, you wrote: >NO! NO!, Elizabeth. Don't leave the list. ---------- Fisher or Elizabeth Jones "A gentleman does not motor about after dark." Joseph Lucas 1920 From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jun 8 20:59:47 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 20:59:47 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility ? In-Reply-To: References: <008301c7a980$55580b90$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <005401c7aa3b$ff8ef5e0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706081959v7f9c40a4k285421af27bc7ccf@mail.gmail.com> Yes, and every family has that crazy cousin that irritates everyone. A family is a good analogy. You can't leave. Technically, all of your comments have British content. Plus, we all need to read some properly written English. Too bad we can't hear the accent through the list. Cheers, Derf From fisher at hctc.net Fri Jun 8 21:04:47 2007 From: fisher at hctc.net (Fisher or Elizabeth Jones) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 22:04:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility ? In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706081918t5af3f9e9nad1ae1bb4ee216cb@mail.gmail.co m> References: <008301c7a980$55580b90$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <5f00d9910706081918t5af3f9e9nad1ae1bb4ee216cb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I'm sorry, I think you are missing my point. I will defend her honour when the need arises, and will do it without thought to any personal consequences. However, although some may disagree, she is the titular head of my country - she represents my country, the two are synonymous. Ergo, disrespecting her disrespects my country, and the people of my country. I agree, there is no better list, although the MG list is a close 2nd, and ........... I also concur that it's diversity is one of it's strengths. However, one does have to stand up and be counted when one sees something that is wrong. I did that, and would do it again. If, in doing so, I am disparaged, then so be it. At least I get to sleep well. elizabeth At 09:18 PM 6/8/2007, derf wrote: >If you unsubscribe, then you are missing the point. ---------- Fisher or Elizabeth Jones "A gentleman does not motor about after dark." Joseph Lucas 1920 From dmg at bossig.com Fri Jun 8 21:10:39 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (dmg at bossig.com) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 20:10:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility ? In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706081959v7f9c40a4k285421af27bc7ccf@mail.gmail.com> References: , , <5f00d9910706081959v7f9c40a4k285421af27bc7ccf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4669B7BF.31630.2F22CAA@dmg.bossig.com> You mean you *can't* hear my Cockney accent?? Have I been here *that* long!! Dave G. 65 Sprite "Bitza" a work in progress On 8 Jun 2007 at 20:59, derf wrote: > Too bad we can't hear the accent through > the list. From wolf.brent at gmail.com Fri Jun 8 21:11:29 2007 From: wolf.brent at gmail.com (Brent Wolf) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 23:11:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hi ya In-Reply-To: <4669E508.3090503@smarc.net> References: <4668F500.8070005@smarc.net> <4669E196.4020909@comcast.net> <4669E508.3090503@smarc.net> Message-ID: <62b83300706082011s7dc98c20s6dcc36eeeddbe0d8@mail.gmail.com> Marc, The steering on my 71 was stiff and would not return to center. I the steering rack full of grease and the grease was hard. The handbook said it should have 80 weight gear oil (which is why I bought my oil gun). After I cleaned all the grease out and fill it with oil, no more problem. Smooth, self centering steering. Brent 71 On 6/8/07, Marc wrote: > > I disconnected the tie rod ends from the steering levers. Both kingpin > assembly's swivel freely. They look pretty new, and there is no > discernible play. I can turn the steering wheel with one finger, but it > doesn't feel as free as I think it should. Pushing or pulling the tie > rod ends is difficult, it's very stiff. Shouldn't it move pretty > freely? it's just the rack and the steering wheel/shaft... On my B, I > can do that easily... > > Marc From wsthompson at thicko.com Fri Jun 8 21:19:15 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 22:19:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility ? In-Reply-To: References: <008301c7a980$55580b90$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <5f00d9910706081918t5af3f9e9nad1ae1bb4ee216cb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001701c7aa44$f7543ee0$e5fcbca0$@com> Ok, I'm not even going to consider a joke with the word "titular" in it. Let the record show I've used remarkable restraint. ;) -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Fisher or Elizabeth Jones Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 10:05 PM To: derf Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Civility ? I'm sorry, I think you are missing my point. I will defend her honour when the need arises, and will do it without thought to any personal consequences. However, although some may disagree, she is the titular head of my country - she represents my country, the two are synonymous. Ergo, disrespecting her disrespects my country, and the people of my country. I agree, there is no better list, although the MG list is a close 2nd, and ........... I also concur that it's diversity is one of it's strengths. However, one does have to stand up and be counted when one sees something that is wrong. I did that, and would do it again. If, in doing so, I am disparaged, then so be it. At least I get to sleep well. elizabeth From fisher at hctc.net Fri Jun 8 21:20:12 2007 From: fisher at hctc.net (Fisher or Elizabeth Jones) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 22:20:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility ? In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706081959v7f9c40a4k285421af27bc7ccf@mail.gmail.co m> References: <008301c7a980$55580b90$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <005401c7aa3b$ff8ef5e0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <5f00d9910706081959v7f9c40a4k285421af27bc7ccf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Oh, come on, I didn't think my messages were being critiqued for their grammatical content. Just as an aside - Our adopted son, Devin, 10, was just awarded a high honour for a letter he wrote to an author, as a part of a contest in which his school entered him. He was competing with up to 16 yr. olds, and although he did not have the winning entry, the judges considered his entry to be worthy of a special commendation. He wrote it all himself, even to include the punctuation. We are very proud of his achievement. elizabeth At 09:59 PM 6/8/2007, derf wrote: > Plus, we all need to read some >properly written English. Too bad we can't hear the accent through >the list. >Cheers, >Derf ---------- Fisher or Elizabeth Jones "A gentleman does not motor about after dark." Joseph Lucas 1920 From duncan at pondhop.com Fri Jun 8 21:24:58 2007 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 22:24:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility ? In-Reply-To: <4669B7BF.31630.2F22CAA@dmg.bossig.com> References: , , <5f00d9910706081959v7f9c40a4k285421af27bc7ccf@mail.gmail.com> <4669B7BF.31630.2F22CAA@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <001c01c7aa45$c2bd4e00$4837ea00$@com> Dave, << Have I been here *that* long!!>> How long have you been over here then ? Only 8 years for me so far. Duncan From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Fri Jun 8 21:25:46 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 22:25:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? In-Reply-To: <006901c7aa3c$8e651f60$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <200706090324.l593O2lo014667@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> After doing a few of the older 320i 5 speeds years back, I don't see how it would fit compared to a ribcase. Pretty solid though. Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Asgeirsson Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 9:19 PM To: Robert Duquette; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? Sounds interesting. BUT!! I suspect that BMW 5 speeds are not in the old 210 5 speed range of yore. BTW, which model and years on the BMW? Later, Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 6:13 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? > A local brit car guru ( ex-guru? ) says 'BMW' is the 5 speed that the spridget wants. I asked if he had done it, and he said 'no, but I can'. I didn't want to be the guinea pig for one of his projects. > > > From: derf > > > > Hey, Paul, have you ever looked at the Miata tranny for a possible > > conversion? I see them here and there for $150 and they're pretty > > tough, handling 200+ horsepower in some applications. From fisher at hctc.net Fri Jun 8 21:31:52 2007 From: fisher at hctc.net (Fisher or Elizabeth Jones) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 22:31:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility ? In-Reply-To: <001701c7aa44$f7543ee0$e5fcbca0$@com> References: <008301c7a980$55580b90$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <5f00d9910706081918t5af3f9e9nad1ae1bb4ee216cb@mail.gmail.com> <001701c7aa44$f7543ee0$e5fcbca0$@com> Message-ID: So noted. Incidentally, I tried to send you a message the other day about the old pocket watch, remember, but your email wouldn't accept it. elizabeth At 10:19 PM 6/8/2007, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: >Ok, I'm not even going to consider a joke with the word "titular" in it. > >Let the record show I've used remarkable restraint. > ---------- Fisher or Elizabeth Jones "A gentleman does not motor about after dark." Joseph Lucas 1920 From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jun 8 22:39:54 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 23:39:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hi ya References: <4668F500.8070005@smarc.net> <4669E196.4020909@comcast.net><4669E508.3090503@smarc.net> <62b83300706082011s7dc98c20s6dcc36eeeddbe0d8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <04b601c7aa50$39fc9a70$0401a8c0@midget> > The steering on my 71 was stiff and would not return to center. I the > steering rack full of grease and the grease was hard. The handbook said > it > should have 80 weight gear oil (which is why I bought my oil gun). After I > cleaned all the grease out and fill it with oil, no more problem. Smooth, > self centering steering. BUTTTT, a 1973 SHOULD have the Triumph steering rack which DOES require GREASE. Not that it wouldn't be likely to benefit from a good cleaning, just that it is not intended to run gear oil. David Lieb From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Jun 9 00:49:18 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 01:49:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility ? In-Reply-To: References: <008301c7a980$55580b90$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <5f00d9910706081918t5af3f9e9nad1ae1bb4ee216cb@mail.gmail.com> <001701c7aa44$f7543ee0$e5fcbca0$@com> Message-ID: My apologies to all for taking so long to chime in. My daughter is getting married on Sunday, and I had to go pick up my monkey suit (tux, NO, NO PHOTOS WILL BE POSTED), then a stop at a bar for one of those band I know Fisher will love, and Elizabeth will not. There are so many folks, with so many interests, likes, dislikes, fetishes, phobias, that sometimes, finding out what really pisses a person off, is a surprise. BUT, once that is found out, and it is a legitimate gripe, I see no reason to continue to agitate someone, for the simple pleasure of it, in this forum. If you MUST get annoying (Hi Ed) then please, be courteous enough to take it off the list, and do it via personal email. I would hate to see anyone leave this list, especially someone as dear to me as Elizabeth, over our OT banter. This list is what it is, but let's not chase anyone away. Brad On 6/8/07, Fisher or Elizabeth Jones wrote: > So noted. > > Incidentally, I tried to send you a message the other day about the > old pocket watch, remember, but your email wouldn't accept it. > > elizabeth > > At 10:19 PM 6/8/2007, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > >Ok, I'm not even going to consider a joke with the word "titular" in it. > > > >Let the record show I've used remarkable restraint. > > > > > ---------- > Fisher or Elizabeth Jones > > "A gentleman does not motor about after dark." Joseph Lucas 1920 > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com From Daniel1312 at aol.com Sat Jun 9 02:59:06 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 04:59:06 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Civility ? Message-ID: Cor blimey mayt, strike a lite waddya meeen? In a message dated 09/06/07 04:00:15 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: > Too bad we can't hear the accent through > the list. > Cheers, From Daniel1312 at aol.com Sat Jun 9 03:02:05 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 05:02:05 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Civility ? Message-ID: I thought that was down to the Beefeaters? In a message dated 09/06/07 03:18:53 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: > Defend your Queen's honor when > she's attacked. From Daniel1312 at aol.com Sat Jun 9 03:05:24 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 05:05:24 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Civility ? Message-ID: Probably most women find this a common problem - my wife does! Daniel1312 In a message dated 09/06/07 01:43:43 GMT Daylight Time, fisher at hctc.net writes: > > > I must admit to finding some of the conversations very > juvenile, From pilotrob at msn.com Sat Jun 9 04:12:57 2007 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 10:12:57 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Cool Tool Message-ID: All available at a Marine supply house, Larry. :) CapBob From wsthompson at thicko.com Sat Jun 9 04:46:50 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 05:46:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility ? In-Reply-To: References: <008301c7a980$55580b90$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <5f00d9910706081918t5af3f9e9nad1ae1bb4ee216cb@mail.gmail.com> <001701c7aa44$f7543ee0$e5fcbca0$@com> Message-ID: <002101c7aa83$7e1c2580$7a547080$@com> Hi Elizabeth, Not sure why, but since the format of the lists changed, I'm having to retrain my e-mail's spam filter. WST -----Original Message----- From: Fisher or Elizabeth Jones [mailto:fisher at hctc.net] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 10:32 PM To: Wm. Severin Thompson Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Civility ? So noted. Incidentally, I tried to send you a message the other day about the old pocket watch, remember, but your email wouldn't accept it. elizabeth At 10:19 PM 6/8/2007, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: >Ok, I'm not even going to consider a joke with the word "titular" in it. > >Let the record show I've used remarkable restraint. > ---------- Fisher or Elizabeth Jones "A gentleman does not motor about after dark." Joseph Lucas 1920 From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Jun 9 06:31:25 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 05:31:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Blackhawk & Mosport In-Reply-To: <000f01c7a9c4$624d0f50$26e72df0$@com> Message-ID: <670925.23627.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- "Wm. Severin Thompson" wrote: > For next weekend's race at Blackhawk, we've got > folks stepping with food > offerings. We could still use charcoal, beer and > soft drinks, side dishes, > chips, and deserts. > We'll have some misc chips, and all the charcoal. Hopefully a race car, too. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 From wsthompson at thicko.com Sat Jun 9 06:41:37 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 07:41:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Blackhawk & Mosport In-Reply-To: <670925.23627.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <000f01c7a9c4$624d0f50$26e72df0$@com> <670925.23627.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003801c7aa93$88acaa00$9a05fe00$@com> Charcoal is spoken for already (I the P) , so are soft drinks (Mal), so, chips and dips would be good... -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 7:31 AM To: 'Spridgets'; 'Team-Thicko at Autox.Team.Net' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Blackhawk & Mosport --- "Wm. Severin Thompson" wrote: > For next weekend's race at Blackhawk, we've got > folks stepping with food > offerings. We could still use charcoal, beer and > soft drinks, side dishes, > chips, and deserts. > We'll have some misc chips, and all the charcoal. Hopefully a race car, too. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 _______________________________________________ wsthompson at thicko.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Jun 9 06:48:00 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 05:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Blackhawk & Mosport In-Reply-To: <003801c7aa93$88acaa00$9a05fe00$@com> Message-ID: <20070609124800.38135.qmail@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> OK. --- "Wm. Severin Thompson" wrote: > Charcoal is spoken for already (I the P) , so are > soft drinks (Mal), so, > chips and dips would be good... ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php From lists at woozy.com Sat Jun 9 07:58:29 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 09:58:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Cap and rotor for 45D4 Distributor? Message-ID: <466AB205.4060104@woozy.com> Does anyone know what year(s) the Lucas 45D4 dizzy was used so I can go to the local parts store to see if they have a cap and rotor? I have one that I had set up with a Crane fireball ignition and yesterday the car died on the way home leaving me waiting for 2 hours in the 95 degree heat for a tow truck. I have spark at the lead off of the coil but no spark at the plugs. The cap and rotor didn't look particularly bad but I'm at a loss as to what else it could be. Thanks, Robert From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jun 9 08:19:52 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 08:19:52 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cap and rotor for 45D4 Distributor? In-Reply-To: <466AB205.4060104@woozy.com> References: <466AB205.4060104@woozy.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706090719w17d6f86erc38404f540c7941d@mail.gmail.com> Try this one, you can maybe cross from there: Borg Warner Distributor cap, side entry, C532 Rotor D570 From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jun 9 08:24:01 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 08:24:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cap and rotor for 45D4 Distributor? In-Reply-To: <466AB205.4060104@woozy.com> References: <466AB205.4060104@woozy.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706090724o7be17eedua4a9f8af0c59a1f4@mail.gmail.com> Here's another, I think this one is top entry: Beck 174-0216 $11 at Autozone. Cheers, Derf From lists at woozy.com Sat Jun 9 10:20:58 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 12:20:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Cap and rotor for 45D4 Distributor? In-Reply-To: <1181136988.20070609071652@iinet.com> References: <466AB205.4060104@woozy.com> <1181136988.20070609071652@iinet.com> Message-ID: <466AD36A.7000700@woozy.com> Hi Bill, Got your email. Thanks, Robert Bill wrote: > Hello Robert, > > > no idea, but .. let me know if my post gets to you.. i'm > having problems posting to the list i think... From hal at katemuir.com Sat Jun 9 10:27:45 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 09:27:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] e-mail address In-Reply-To: Message-ID: C'mon guys, YOUR system still works the same as it always did. The list software does NOT have anythhing to do with whom you send mail to: it is merely a vehicle. Your system either sends an email to the list (Reply All) or to the individual who sent the original message (Reply.) Go drive or work on your cars! Hal From lists at woozy.com Sat Jun 9 10:24:39 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 12:24:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Cap and rotor for 45D4 Distributor? In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706090719w17d6f86erc38404f540c7941d@mail.gmail.com> References: <466AB205.4060104@woozy.com> <5f00d9910706090719w17d6f86erc38404f540c7941d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <466AD447.9020004@woozy.com> Thanks Derf, I tried putting the old distributor back in which is not set up for the crane ignition and still no spark. Now it looks like I don't have a spark at the coil either. Tried swapping coils and still no joy. It's too darn hot out now to do anymore on it until maybe later this evening if it cools down. Robert derf wrote: > Try this one, you can maybe cross from there: > > Borg Warner > Distributor cap, side entry, C532 > Rotor D570 From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Jun 9 11:42:06 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 10:42:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility ? In-Reply-To: References: <008301c7a980$55580b90$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <5f00d9910706081918t5af3f9e9nad1ae1bb4ee216cb@mail.gmail.com> <001701c7aa44$f7543ee0$e5fcbca0$@com> Message-ID: <466AE66E.8030301@earthlink.net> >Brad Fornal wrote: "My daughter is getting married on Sunday > Sunday will probably be the proper time to remind your daughter that as the years pass and her hair turns gray, she will still be "daddy's little girl". It is a fact of life that those of us who love our daughters learned ages ago, but which those same little girls find it so difficult to accept. From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Jun 9 13:20:49 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 12:20:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Adventures in race prep (was RE: Blackhawk & Mosport) In-Reply-To: <003901c7aa94$d59a7620$80cf6260$@com> Message-ID: <570628.20559.qm@web30514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- "Wm. Severin Thompson" wrote: > Motor in? Just about. Long night. Memorable, extremely fun, but unexpected. PPP arrives early, around 6-6:30 with motor. We start going through it, it looks OK. We are finishing some little stuff, go to put flywheel on. Massive crack in rear engine plate. Oops. Unclear how/when it happened. I had the flywheel on when it went to the shop, I wouldn't have seen it then. I've had a mystery leak there since March, that could explain a bit. I get another plate, we remember an issue with pump housing on this plate from 2 years ago. Plate is from early thin flanged block. Hmmm looks fine. So we disassemble old one, it won't go on. Like pump hole is in wrong spot. Strange - aren't all pumps (and cam) locations the same? I guess not. We bolt the 2 different plates together for a dimensional check, all holes line up perfectly, like they were match drilled. But....the pump hole is smaller on the new one, like 1/4 inch, and offset from the other one, not concentric to each other (BOTH 1275 plates, wtf). I have 2 different pump covers, one that was on the 1275 in the car, the other a 1275 one I got from Frank (also a 3rd one that came off the thin flanged motor, identical to the one Frank sent). Either the crank hits or the edges of the oil pump. Can't fit both. Again, WTF. It's now 7:45 or so. What are we gonna do. I call my buddy Ron Downs, our MFG director. I tell him there's a hole that's around 4 inches, it needs to be 4.25. Plus it needs to move. He calls the 2nd shift guys, tells them we're coming in, make it happen. Peter and I speed to work in the Alfa, all that's missing is Katherine Ross, Dustin Hoffman, and some Simon and Garfunkel music. We get to work, Peter is duly impressed by the machine shop, 65,000 feet of CNC machines on floors you could eat off of. The guys are also duly impressed with Peter. The boys rig up a fixture and use a flycutter to re-center the hole and re size it. They then set the plate up on a rotating base and use an end mill to make the counterbore relief cut for the oil pump housing. The plate is perfect, better than new. By the time we high-tail it back to the garage in the Alfa, it's 10:00 or so. We do some more assembly of the long block/transmission, PPP takes off around 1 am. Valves are adjusted, final stuff is put on, 2 am. I can usually go til daylight, but a long week has me beat. I've had enough, as I have to be at the field at 8:15 for my son's baseball game (we win, he got the victory and went 3 for 4). More family plans til now, more later starting at 6 PM so I have a small window to work. So....a little more to do today, it'll fire up tomorrow. The boys at work - unbelievable. PPP - what can I say - no finer friend anywhere. Ron Soave "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469 From froggi60 at gmail.com Sat Jun 9 13:46:47 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 12:46:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NW & Portland Historics In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10706091246td5501d7x39f8f17c33765dc@mail.gmail.com> Hi David, I plan on making it if my son comes up. What are the dates again? Herb From franks97 at verizon.net Sat Jun 9 14:11:39 2007 From: franks97 at verizon.net (Franks) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 13:11:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NW & Portland Historics In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10706091246td5501d7x39f8f17c33765dc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: July 6,7 & 8 for Portland, the weekend before for Seattle. Dave On 6/9/07 12:46 PM, "WFO Herb" wrote: > Hi David, > > I plan on making it if my son comes up. > > What are the dates again? > > Herb From smarc at smarc.net Sat Jun 9 15:27:22 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 17:27:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] half shaft retainer Message-ID: <466B1B3A.4080409@smarc.net> We pulled the rear brakes of the 73 midget today when my son noticed he could pull the half shaft right out of the left side. What is supposed to retain the half shafts? Looking at the manuals I have there doesn't appear to be any C clips. One drawing shows what looks like a screw and a nut and bolt on the flange... I don't see that on either side??? So what keeps them from leaving the car while you're going down the road? Or going around a curve and having your track width suddenly increase? -- Marc From duncan at pondhop.com Sat Jun 9 15:36:21 2007 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 16:36:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] half shaft retainer In-Reply-To: <466B1B3A.4080409@smarc.net> References: <466B1B3A.4080409@smarc.net> Message-ID: <003d01c7aade$38ba17d0$aa2e4770$@com> << So what keeps them from leaving the car while you're going down the road? << The brake drum and the lug nuts plus a screw keep the shaft in place. Ultimately the hub nut is what is taking the outward force. Duncan From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Sat Jun 9 15:41:23 2007 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 14:41:23 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Cap and rotor for 45D4 Distributor? Message-ID: <2f4701c7aade$eca0c7d0$2dca010a@mail2world.com> I saw part numbers in the recent replies, but not years (for the counter drones). '75-79 Midget 1500 '75-80 Spitfire I think also the RB MGB ran a 45D4 as well. BTW, these are all top-entry caps. -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Robert Weeks [lists at woozy.com] Sent: 6/9/2007 9:58:29 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Cap and rotor for 45D4 Distributor? Does anyone know what year(s) the Lucas 45D4 dizzy was used so I can go to the local parts store to see if they have a cap and rotor? I have one that I had set up with a Crane fireball ignition and yesterday the car died on the way home leaving me waiting for 2 hours in the 95 degree heat for a tow truck. I have spark at the lead off of the coil but no spark at the plugs. The cap and rotor didn't look particularly bad but I'm at a loss as to what else it could be. Thanks, Robert _______________________________________________ From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jun 9 16:23:35 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 16:23:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] half shaft retainer In-Reply-To: <466B1B3A.4080409@smarc.net> References: <466B1B3A.4080409@smarc.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706091523p1dc096a3h8d2b44640c9f16a1@mail.gmail.com> There should be one Philips screw that retains the drum and two similar screws that hold the axle shaft to the hub, IIRC. It will work without the 3 screws. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jun 9 16:26:04 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 16:26:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cap and rotor for 45D4 Distributor? In-Reply-To: <2f4701c7aade$eca0c7d0$2dca010a@mail2world.com> References: <2f4701c7aade$eca0c7d0$2dca010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706091526i7ada02eei11e88c87d2744601@mail.gmail.com> Years shouldn't matter if you have a part number. Most, if not all, are interchangeable. Those dizzys went into a bunch of different British cars. PPP should know all about interchange. From pilotrob at webtv.net Sat Jun 9 16:47:13 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 22:47:13 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Cap and rotor for 45D4 Distributor? Message-ID: Minute cracks in rotor (most likely suspect, Chris, especially with large plug gaps which "pull" a lot of electrons from upgraded ignition systems, coils, etc.) can be difficult to detect. Peter C. sells upgraded or beefier rotors which can take it. Ask me how I know? :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pilotrob at webtv.net Sat Jun 9 16:52:29 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 22:52:29 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Adventures in race prep (was RE: Blackhawk & Mosport) Message-ID: Whew! :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Sat Jun 9 17:28:26 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 16:28:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Adventures in race prep (was RE: Blackhawk & Mosport) References: <570628.20559.qm@web30514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00a901c7aaed$e28cd540$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Hi Ron, Sounds like what you had was a 1098 2" main backing plate. There are three thick backing plates. 1098 1 3/4" 1098 2" 1275 All The 1098 plates have the 4 inch hole but in the same location as do the thin 948 ones. You just needed a 1275 plate! Now you have a 1275 one, custom made! Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 12:20 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Adventures in race prep (was RE: Blackhawk & Mosport) > --- "Wm. Severin Thompson" > wrote: > > > Motor in? > > Just about. Long night. Memorable, extremely fun, but > unexpected. > > PPP arrives early, around 6-6:30 with motor. We start > going through it, it looks OK. We are finishing some > little stuff, go to put flywheel on. Massive crack in > rear engine plate. Oops. Unclear how/when it happened. > I had the flywheel on when it went to the shop, I > wouldn't have seen it then. I've had a mystery leak > there since March, that could explain a bit. I get > another plate, we remember an issue with pump housing > on this plate from 2 years ago. Plate is from early > thin flanged block. Hmmm looks fine. So we disassemble > old one, it won't go on. Like pump hole is in wrong > spot. Strange - aren't all pumps (and cam) locations > the same? I guess not. We bolt the 2 different plates > together for a dimensional check, all holes line up > perfectly, like they were match drilled. But....the > pump hole is smaller on the new one, like 1/4 inch, > and offset from the other one, not concentric to each > other (BOTH 1275 plates, wtf). I have 2 different pump > covers, one that was on the 1275 in the car, the other > a 1275 one I got from Frank (also a 3rd one that came > off the thin flanged motor, identical to the one Frank > sent). Either the crank hits or the edges of the oil > pump. Can't fit both. Again, WTF. It's now 7:45 or so. > What are we gonna do. I call my buddy Ron Downs, our > MFG director. I tell him there's a hole that's around > 4 inches, it needs to be 4.25. Plus it needs to move. > He calls the 2nd shift guys, tells them we're coming > in, make it happen. Peter and I speed to work in the > Alfa, all that's missing is Katherine Ross, Dustin > Hoffman, and some Simon and Garfunkel music. We get to > work, Peter is duly impressed by the machine shop, > 65,000 feet of CNC machines on floors you could eat > off of. The guys are also duly impressed with Peter. > The boys rig up a fixture and use a flycutter to > re-center the hole and re size it. They then set the > plate up on a rotating base and use an end mill to > make the counterbore relief cut for the oil pump > housing. The plate is perfect, better than new. > > By the time we high-tail it back to the garage in the > Alfa, it's 10:00 or so. We do some more assembly of > the long block/transmission, PPP takes off around 1 > am. Valves are adjusted, final stuff is put on, 2 am. > I can usually go til daylight, but a long week has me > beat. I've had enough, as I have to be at the field at > 8:15 for my son's baseball game (we win, he got the > victory and went 3 for 4). More family plans til now, > more later starting at 6 PM so I have a small window > to work. So....a little more to do today, it'll fire > up tomorrow. > > The boys at work - unbelievable. PPP - what can I say > - no finer friend anywhere. > > > > Ron Soave > > "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469 > _______________________________________________ > pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wsthompson at thicko.com Sat Jun 9 18:28:44 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 19:28:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] more Blackhawk details Message-ID: <006a01c7aaf6$4f547400$edfd5c00$@com> Well Well Well. Folks are stepping up right & left for the Thicko soiree'. Actually we're too the point where we might need addition meatage. anyone else want to step up and volunteer some animal sacrifice? The Thicktones will be in full strength +. which means on a really good night, we'll be average. ;) My racecar is good to go. did brakes on it today. I'm trying to drop another 5lbs this week so I can afford to buy tires for Mosport rather than having buy a driver's suit, since mine is approaching maximum density. Tomorrow the trailer gets a de-grease, and I'll load the Thicktone PA, and the grille, and ratchet down the car. Looking forward to a great race weekend, and the best party of the year. Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From lists at woozy.com Sat Jun 9 19:11:46 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 21:11:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Cap and rotor for 45D4 Distributor? In-Reply-To: <2f4701c7aade$eca0c7d0$2dca010a@mail2world.com> References: <2f4701c7aade$eca0c7d0$2dca010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: <466B4FD2.4040801@woozy.com> Thanks Chris, That's what I was looking for. Most of the counter people I've dealt with around here have never heard of MG when they ask me for the make and then are surprised when it comes up on their screen. I'll give this a try tomorrow. Unfortunately I don't think its the cap or the rotor now because I swapped out the dizzy for a 25D4 I had that I know works and that didn't solve the problem. The car was running great up until that point yesterday when it went dead on the way home. It had started right up when I left work and I drove about 2 - 3 miles in the heat here yesterday which was pretty brutal. I was going about 55 when the engine just cut out. Luckily I was able to coast far enough to get off the road into a parking lot. I could have sworn yesterday that I had spark from the coil but I didn't have any today. The coil was incredibly hot yesterday. Today I tried a different coil that I had laying around and the different dizzy that was set up with points & condenser and no spark anywhere that I could tell. It was way too hot here today for me to do any more work on it and I was getting way too frustrated so I'll have to come back to it another day when the weather and my attitude are both better. Thanks again, Robert Robert Chris King wrote: > I saw part numbers in the recent replies, but not years (for the > counter drones). > > '75-79 Midget 1500 > '75-80 Spitfire > I think also the RB MGB ran a 45D4 as well. > > BTW, these are all top-entry caps. > > -=Chris > > Chris King > http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ > > <-----Original Message-----> > *From: Robert Weeks [lists at woozy.com]* > Sent: 6/9/2007 9:58:29 AM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Cap and rotor for 45D4 Distributor? > > Does anyone know what year(s) the Lucas 45D4 dizzy was used so I can go > to the local parts store to see if they have a cap and rotor? I have one > that I had set up with a Crane fireball ignition and yesterday the car > died on the way home leaving me waiting for 2 hours in the 95 degree > heat for a tow truck. > > I have spark at the lead off of the coil but no spark at the plugs. The > cap and rotor didn't look particularly bad but I'm at a loss as to what > else it could be. > > Thanks, > > Robert > _______________________________________________ From davriker at digitalpath.net Sat Jun 9 20:35:12 2007 From: davriker at digitalpath.net (David Riker) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 19:35:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Ride height References: Message-ID: <02b001c7ab07$f9357760$6400a8c0@dave> The location of the human butt is closer to the rear wheels than the front. The car sits level when occupied. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 6:01 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ride height > Thanks Frank, > > Anyone have a good reason why the rear is always set higher than the > front? > > Daniel1312 > > > In a message dated 08/06/07 03:52:35 GMT Daylight Time, > spritenut at comcast.net > writes: > > >> Daniel >> >> 71 Midget stock and tired. 7" front 8.5" rear >> 58 Sprite stock and new 6" front 7" rear >> 59 Sprite lowered 1" 5" front 6" rear >> 1500 Midget stock 14" front 19" rear (only joking) >> -- >> Frank Clarici >> Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Jun 9 21:25:08 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 22:25:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fun on the road Message-ID: <06e901c7ab0e$f3229450$6401a8c0@Larry> I need to pass on a funny thing that happened today. I was out running errands in my 67 Austin A60 pickup which happens to be RHD. I took my youngest Golden Retriever with me who happens to sit upright in the seat facing forward looking out the windshield just like a human would do. We pulled up to a stop light in the right hand lane and I noticed a car pull up beside us in the left lane. She gave us a cursory glance and then looked away. Almost immediately, she snapped her head back as she must have realized that it appeared as though this dog was driving the truck. I bobbed my head forward and put both hands on top of the steering wheel and started laughing at the look of terror on her face as she must have thought she was sharing the road with a dog driver. She started laughing, too, as she realized what the deal was. It reminded me of last year when Peter C. and I were coming back from the Grattan, MI race where we were supporting Ron Soave. Almost the same thing happened when a couple of girls pulled up on our left and told PPP that they liked his truck. When Peter leaned back and motioned to me on the right side and told them it wasn't his truck and he wasn't driving, they just gasped. Evidently, they had never seen anybody drive on the wrong side... or was it the right side? LAD From mjb at autox.team.net Sat Jun 9 21:34:03 2007 From: mjb at autox.team.net (Mark J. Bradakis) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 21:34:03 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Sweet Sixteen Message-ID: <20070610033403.E31D9187AF1@autox.team.net> Today was the British Field Day, put on by various car clubs here in Salt Lake City, like the British Motor Club, the Healey club, the Land Rover folks as well as some vintage motorcycle groups. A fun time, a pleasant way to spend a few hours. And this year was the 16th annual event, having been started in 1991. And 1991 was the year that the domain Team.Net was first put on the air. Sixteen years ago, when you had to explain to folks that the dot was not silent. Actually the lists, only two back in the beginning, were going strong for a few years before the Team.Net domain went on the air. A lot has happened since then, some changes for the better, some not. But one thing remains, the various mailing lists, web sites, FTP archives, wiki and such are still being run by some old computer guy on piles of creaky hardware in his basement. That guy, of course, is me. There are out of pocket expenses incurred in keeping it all going. Once or twice a year I make a request for donations to help cover the costs of keeping it all going, or maybe a refreshing beverage from an appreciative subscriber. No big sales pitch, this is the only message you'll get from me. If you enjoy the services I put on the net and have a few extra dollars, I'd appreciate a contribution, of whatever dollar amount you feel comfortable with. If you aren't in a position to donate, don't worry about it. If you are one of the folks who has recently sent in something without prompting, go ahead and smile smugly - you are off the hook. Contribution details can be found at http://www.team.net/donate.html Thanks, mjb. From Daniel1312 at aol.com Sun Jun 10 05:56:49 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 07:56:49 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] more Blackhawk details Message-ID: I'll kill some of the neighbourhood's cats but I don't think FedEX will ship them. In fact I'd send spotted dick but need a mailing address. Daniel1312 In a message dated 10/06/07 04:58:56 GMT Daylight Time, wsthompson at thicko.com writes: > and volunteer some animal sacrifice? From Daniel1312 at aol.com Sun Jun 10 05:57:37 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 07:57:37 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] half shaft retainer Message-ID: HA! Make that a Posidrive screw! In a message dated 10/06/07 04:59:03 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: > There should be one Philips screw that retains the drum and two > similar screws that hold the axle shaft to the hub, IIRC. > It will work without the 3 screws. > Cheers, > Derf From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 09:20:22 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:20:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] British Car Video In-Reply-To: <60313l$4cev6@email.mtu.edu> References: <60313l$4cev6@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <205cef430706100820o30dbfe53y8bdc8a866eaf6443@mail.gmail.com> Tim & List I'm at 35% at 5 min. I'm sure it is worth the wait. Lin On 6/8/07, Timothy H. Collins wrote: > > Here's a link to a neat video of the 1967 British Racing and Sports > Car Club year in review. The video visits a variety of tracks and > races in England. See a Sprite roll 5 times and the driver walks away > unharmed! Mini's, Lotus 7's (Clubmans), F1, etc. > http://www.metalmeet.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=121 > The video is the 6th one down the list. It is BIG. If you are on a > dial up, better pack a lunch as the movie is 24 minutes long play > time. Download time is LONG. > > Tim Collins > 1966 AH Sprite > _______________________________________________ > grunthaner at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 09:59:44 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 09:59:44 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] half shaft retainer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706100859y2ff7f36vb3d315f7f732e69d@mail.gmail.com> Yeah, posidrive, if you say so, but my PHILLIPS screwdriver operates it just fine. If you're super silly, you can go to Sears and try to buy a Posidrive screwdriver instead of just using the Phillips in the tool box. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 10:09:56 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:09:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] half shaft retainer In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706100859y2ff7f36vb3d315f7f732e69d@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910706100859y2ff7f36vb3d315f7f732e69d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: You can purchase a Black and Decker tool set that has a set of three pozidrive bits in it. Brad On 6/10/07, derf wrote: > Yeah, posidrive, if you say so, but my PHILLIPS screwdriver operates > it just fine. If you're super silly, you can go to Sears and try to > buy a Posidrive screwdriver instead of just using the Phillips in the > tool box. -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From Daniel1312 at aol.com Sun Jun 10 10:15:44 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:15:44 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] half shaft retainer Message-ID: There is a big difference between a Posidrive screw and a Phillips screw and using the wrong type of screwdriver (or tip) invariably destroys the screw head. Ed's site has a really good tech feature on this. And, it's not that 'I say so' it's a simple fact. Daniel1312 In a message dated 10/06/07 17:00:57 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: > Yeah, posidrive, if you say so, but my PHILLIPS screwdriver operates > it just fine. If you're super silly, you can go to Sears and try to > buy a Posidrive screwdriver instead of just using the Phillips in the > tool box. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 10:34:20 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 10:34:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] half shaft retainer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706100934kf192691t569a57f6e4f85d8b@mail.gmail.com> OK, there is a difference. But, I contend that you can use a Phillips screwdriver on them. Also, even if you do use the "correct" driver, it will "invariably destroy the screw head" after 10-12 torquings, or sooner if you apply too much torque. You can certainly get more torque on a Posidrive, but the application stated doesn't need so much torque. I generally cheat on removal of those things anyway and use a 3/8" impact wrench with the "proper" tip. I didn't want to start an argument on this but I don't want people to think they have to go hunting for a special screwdriver if they just want to do a brake job. The two Posidrive screws just keep the seals in place when you remove the wheel and brake drum and the one just keeps the brake drum in place if you remove the wheel. Once the lugs are tightened the Posidrives aren't critical and aren't even useful until you remove the wheel. If you're a fastener snob then you'll want to replace them with Torx drive screws anyway. Do they make a 1/4-28 flat head TorX? Isn't that a 1/4-28 screw? Cheers, Derf From beatlemikey at yahoo.com Sun Jun 10 10:40:37 2007 From: beatlemikey at yahoo.com (Mike Rivers) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 09:40:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] half shaft retainer In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706100934kf192691t569a57f6e4f85d8b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <610210.73381.qm@web56012.mail.re3.yahoo.com> I use a #3 screwdriver bit with mine and it works fine. Mike Rivers 1961 MG Midget 1275 Sebring --- derf wrote: > OK, there is a difference. But, I contend that you > can use a Phillips > screwdriver on them. Also, even if you do use the > "correct" driver, > it will "invariably destroy the screw head" after > 10-12 torquings, or > sooner if you apply too much torque. > You can certainly get more torque on a Posidrive, > but the application > stated doesn't need so much torque. I generally > cheat on removal of > those things anyway and use a 3/8" impact wrench > with the "proper" > tip. > I didn't want to start an argument on this but I > don't want people to > think they have to go hunting for a special > screwdriver if they just > want to do a brake job. The two Posidrive screws > just keep the seals > in place when you remove the wheel and brake drum > and the one just > keeps the brake drum in place if you remove the > wheel. Once the lugs > are tightened the Posidrives aren't critical and > aren't even useful > until you remove the wheel. > If you're a fastener snob then you'll want to > replace them with Torx > drive screws anyway. Do they make a 1/4-28 flat > head TorX? Isn't > that a 1/4-28 screw? > Cheers, > Derf From smarc at smarc.net Sun Jun 10 10:55:21 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:55:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] half shaft retainer In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706100934kf192691t569a57f6e4f85d8b@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910706100934kf192691t569a57f6e4f85d8b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <466C2CF9.5070208@smarc.net> Is it safe to come out now? ;-) Without debating the relative merits of various fastener types, I'm still not clear on the original thing I asked about, namely what keeps the half shafts in place! As far as I can see, when we removed the wheel, then the brake drum had one screw holding it to the half shaft, right? Brake shoes & springs were removed, then finally the wheel cylinder. As my son was removing the wheel cylinder, he snagged the half shaft flange which slid out a few inches... So here's what I don't get - since the wheel lugs are in the half shaft flange, what holds the whole thing (road wheel, brake drum & half shaft) in place? Marc derf wrote: > OK, there is a difference. But, I contend that you can use a Phillips > screwdriver on them. Also, even if you do use the "correct" driver, > it will "invariably destroy the screw head" after 10-12 torquings, or > sooner if you apply too much torque. > You can certainly get more torque on a Posidrive, but the application > stated doesn't need so much torque. I generally cheat on removal of > those things anyway and use a 3/8" impact wrench with the "proper" > tip. > I didn't want to start an argument on this but I don't want people to > think they have to go hunting for a special screwdriver if they just > want to do a brake job. The two Posidrive screws just keep the seals > in place when you remove the wheel and brake drum and the one just > keeps the brake drum in place if you remove the wheel. Once the lugs > are tightened the Posidrives aren't critical and aren't even useful > until you remove the wheel. > If you're a fastener snob then you'll want to replace them with Torx > drive screws anyway. Do they make a 1/4-28 flat head TorX? Isn't > that a 1/4-28 screw? > Cheers, > Derf From duncan at pondhop.com Sun Jun 10 11:08:27 2007 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:08:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] half shaft retainer In-Reply-To: <466C2CF9.5070208@smarc.net> References: <5f00d9910706100934kf192691t569a57f6e4f85d8b@mail.gmail.com> <466C2CF9.5070208@smarc.net> Message-ID: <005601c7ab81$f6728660$e3579320$@com> << what keeps the half shafts in place!>> Ah but the wheel studs are actually on the inner hub which is secured with the bearing to the axle casing with the hub nut. The half shaft itself has holes that slide over the wheel studs so tying the whole thing together. When the wheel is in place the lug nuts (along with the screws and drum) hold the half shaft and inner hub together. If you pull the half shaft out it will be clear to see the hub nut underneath it and it will make perfect sense then. Duncan From smarc at smarc.net Sun Jun 10 11:15:10 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:15:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] half shaft retainer In-Reply-To: <005601c7ab81$f6728660$e3579320$@com> References: <5f00d9910706100934kf192691t569a57f6e4f85d8b@mail.gmail.com> <466C2CF9.5070208@smarc.net> <005601c7ab81$f6728660$e3579320$@com> Message-ID: <466C319E.8060307@smarc.net> Ah ha! I went out and looked again, and see that you are correct. For some unknown (read:stupid) reason, I was thinking the wheel studs where in the half-shaft itself! Now I understand... See, I never claimed to be a mechanic, just a little dangerous with tools! Thanks for clearing that up... doh! Marc Duncan Sinclair wrote: > << what keeps the half shafts in place!>> > > Ah but the wheel studs are actually on the inner hub which is secured with > the bearing to the axle casing with the hub nut. > The half shaft itself has holes that slide over the wheel studs so tying the > whole thing together. When the wheel is in place the lug nuts (along with > the screws and drum) hold the half shaft and inner hub together. > > If you pull the half shaft out it will be clear to see the hub nut > underneath it and it will make perfect sense then. > > Duncan From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jun 10 11:04:14 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 10:04:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] half shaft retainer In-Reply-To: <466C2CF9.5070208@smarc.net> Message-ID: <239508.41983.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Marc wrote: > Is it safe to come out now? ;-) > > Without debating the relative merits of various > fastener types, I'm > still not clear on the original thing I asked about, > namely what keeps > the half shafts in place As Derf said the wheel lugs ultimately keep it in place when bolted up. There are screws that hold the axle to the hub as we've been discussing. In my case, the screws are neither pozi nor Philips. They are Allen-head screws made of A286 steel. They came out of a test article that never was for use on the F-16 Fighting Falcon. THAT is overkill and serious fastener snobbery. Ron Soave "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ From Daniel1312 at aol.com Sun Jun 10 11:20:16 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:20:16 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] half shaft retainer Message-ID: I'm neither a fastner snob or looking for an argument but rather I want listers to enjoy their cars rather than spend time trying to undo parts held together which chewed up fastners. Of course you can use a Phillips screwdriver on Posidrive screws but it's not the correct tool and chews up the scew heads. Likewise you can use vise grips instead of wrenches. My experience of using a Posidrive screwdriver on Posidrive scews is that it doesn't damage them and both have a long life. You're right you don't need a proper tool to any job unless you want to do it properly. Use a Phillips screwdriver on your first brake job and then use a drill to drill out a damaged head on your second brake job. With the correct thread any countersunk head fastener will get the job done including a torx but ...... does that mean getting a special torx tool? All I was doing here was pointing out that the screw is a Posidrive not a Phillips and using the wrong tool chews it up. Now, back to negative camber on a live axle car! Daniel1312 In a message dated 10/06/07 17:34:46 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: > > OK, there is a difference. But, I contend that you can use a Phillips > screwdriver on them. Also, even if you do use the "correct" driver, > it will "invariably destroy the screw head" after 10-12 torquings, or > sooner if you apply too much torque. > You can certainly get more torque on a Posidrive, but the application > stated doesn't need so much torque. I generally cheat on removal of > those things anyway and use a 3/8" impact wrench with the "proper" > tip. > I didn't want to start an argument on this but I don't want people to > think they have to go hunting for a special screwdriver if they just > want to do a brake job. The two Posidrive screws just keep the seals > in place when you remove the wheel and brake drum and the one just > keeps the brake drum in place if you remove the wheel. Once the lugs > are tightened the Posidrives aren't critical and aren't even useful > until you remove the wheel. > If you're a fastener snob then you'll want to replace them with Torx > drive screws anyway. Do they make a 1/4-28 flat head TorX? Isn't > that a 1/4-28 screw? > Cheers, > Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 12:29:01 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:29:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] half shaft retainer In-Reply-To: <239508.41983.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <466C2CF9.5070208@smarc.net> <239508.41983.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706101129o794d756cwb55b9a61bceec8c0@mail.gmail.com> I think I answered the original question in my original post to this thread: "There should be one Philips screw that retains the drum and two similar screws that hold the axle shaft to the hub, IIRC. It will work without the 3 screws. Cheers, Derf" Please substitute "Posidrive" in place of "Phillips" for correctness. Touche!(2-shay!) I'll bet I could do 100 brake jobs and not destroy any fasteners in the process. But, I've been around tools and cars literally my entire life. You gain a certain "feel" for fasteners and such that I'm sure many other listers have. That "feel" comes from experience. I know how much torque I can put on those screws before they start to become damaged. I know about how much torque is required to do the job of those fasteners. Unfortunately, no one can transfer the "feel" or experience to others via this list. Facts: Posidrive is the correct term, and the correct tool to use for those fasteners. If you don't have a Posidrive driver, you can do perfectly good brake jobs with a Phillips driver, once or ten times, if you do it right. You should always use the proper tool for the job. Now, we can start a new thread for the argument for/against positive rear camber on solid axles and/or why sequential port injection is useless, proper oil pressure, etc. Even if I lose an argument, I learn something. Next time someone asks about those fasteners, I'll be SURE to type Posidrive. Maybe I can get my spell checker to flag "Phillips" and recommend Posidrive. And, BTW, it isn't Posidrive, it is Pozidriv. Cheers, Derf From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 12:32:04 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:32:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Some images for everyone to laugh at... Message-ID: <43840a7e0706101132l326978a0ldb7833daaf7d40a1@mail.gmail.com> I took most of these pictures a few months ago as we were doing out fact finding mission for the Spridget Golden Anniversary celebration at Lake of the Ozarks. I finally go around to putting them up on a web page so you can have a chuckle too.... http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/mg/50years.html Cheers!! Jim -- 1964 R60/2 BMW 1968 MG Midget 1976 R90/6 BMW 1990 K100LT BMW Thomas Huxley - "It is not who is right, but what is right, that is of importance." From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 12:37:30 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:37:30 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Beating a dead horse, or Positive Rear Camber, why not for live axles? Message-ID: <5f00d9910706101137h73ec7ca9jf404fbbaf6727579@mail.gmail.com> I never did get this straight. If positive rear camber is good for cornering on IRS setups, why wouldn't it be good on live axles? I think positive rear camber is good for cornering as you get better tire contact. Something like 1/2 to 2 degrees is good, right? It is kinda like pre-loading the tires against cornering forces. Any of you old racers tried such things? Cheers, Derf From Daniel1312 at aol.com Sun Jun 10 12:44:32 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 14:44:32 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] half shaft retainer Message-ID: Maybe being a Brit I replace a Z with an S as a matter of course. The fact you might be able to use a Phillips screwdriver on a Pozidrive screw without damaging it doesn't make it corrrect, right, or good practice. However, the issue is that to recommend something that in fact is wrong because it works for you, isn't necessarily helpful. When I first got my Sprite a very long time ago there were a lot of chewed up Pozidrive fasteners on it so I guess you weren't the PO and the PO lacked your 'touch'. In fact when my car goes to the body/paint shop they generally chew up the Pozidrive screws without fail and they are professionals. Nowdays they leave the strip and rebuilt to me so I don't need to replace their handiwork. I't's not a FACT you can do a perfectly good job that you use a Phillips screwdriver to undo a Pozidrive screw. It might be a fact that Derf can do a perfectly good job undoing a Pozidriver screw with a Phillips screwdriver providing that a PO hasn't chewed it up first. The two statements are not the same nor is it semantics. If someone is new to working on their own car the last thing they need is to learn how to use the wrong tool without damaging their fastners at the cost of chewing up a lot of fastners. I think it was a simple thing for me to point out the difference and put someone on the right track without a huge debate about how being wrong can be Ok. Time for Ed to post a URL to his web page??? Regards Daniel1312 In a message dated 10/06/07 19:30:38 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: > > I think I answered the original question in my original post to this thread: > > "There should be one Philips screw that retains the drum and two > similar screws that hold the axle shaft to the hub, IIRC. > It will work without the 3 screws. > Cheers, > Derf" > > Please substitute "Posidrive" in place of "Phillips" for correctness. > Touche!(2-shay!) > > I'll bet I could do 100 brake jobs and not destroy any fasteners in > the process. But, I've been around tools and cars literally my entire > life. You gain a certain "feel" for fasteners and such that I'm sure > many other listers have. That "feel" comes from experience. I know > how much torque I can put on those screws before they start to become > damaged. I know about how much torque is required to do the job of > those fasteners. Unfortunately, no one can transfer the "feel" or > experience to others via this list. > Facts: > Posidrive is the correct term, and the correct tool to use for those > fasteners. > If you don't have a Posidrive driver, you can do perfectly good brake > jobs with a Phillips driver, once or ten times, if you do it right. > You should always use the proper tool for the job. > > Now, we can start a new thread for the argument for/against positive > rear camber on solid axles and/or why sequential port injection is > useless, proper oil pressure, etc. Even if I lose an argument, I > learn something. Next time someone asks about those fasteners, I'll > be SURE to type Posidrive. Maybe I can get my spell checker to flag > "Phillips" and recommend Posidrive. > > And, BTW, it isn't Posidrive, it is Pozidriv. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sun Jun 10 12:45:31 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:45:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Beating a dead horse, or Positive Rear Camber, why not for live axles? In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706101137h73ec7ca9jf404fbbaf6727579@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910706101137h73ec7ca9jf404fbbaf6727579@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3C672FB2-1C97-4FD9-8C13-74210A134D87@comcast.net> umm.. we always went we NEGATIVE camber but that was off road racing. i thought that Positive camber means that a left turn means that you roll the car to the outside of the turn.. Lester On Jun 10, 2007, at 1:37 PM, derf wrote: > I never did get this straight. > If positive rear camber is good for cornering on IRS setups, why > wouldn't it be good on live axles? > > I think positive rear camber is good for cornering as you get better > tire contact. Something like 1/2 to 2 degrees is good, right? It is > kinda like pre-loading the tires against cornering forces. > > Any of you old racers tried such things? > Cheers, > Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 12:46:53 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:46:53 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] half shaft retainer In-Reply-To: <239508.41983.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <466C2CF9.5070208@smarc.net> <239508.41983.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706101146h4cce8fbej4a08ac635f4bbb1e@mail.gmail.com> That isn't overkill. A fastener really can't be too good for a job. And, we all know and envy your fastener snobbery. Note: you also got the pozi right, although abbreviated. > As Derf said the wheel lugs ultimately keep it in > place when bolted up. There are screws that hold the > axle to the hub as we've been discussing. In my case, > the screws are neither pozi nor Philips. They are > Allen-head screws made of A286 steel. They came out of > a test article that never was for use on the F-16 > Fighting Falcon. THAT is overkill and serious fastener snobbery. > > Ron Soave From Daniel1312 at aol.com Sun Jun 10 12:51:19 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 14:51:19 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Positive Rear Camber, why not for live axle rear suspension. Message-ID: Probably because with a live axle car, body roll doesn't result in a camber change at the wheel or as much of a camber change as IRS does at the wheel. I don't claim to be a big suspension expert and don't have a handy reference to quote. Daniel1312 In a message dated 10/06/07 19:38:17 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: > I never did get this straight. > If positive rear camber is good for cornering on IRS setups, why > wouldn't it be good on live axles? From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Jun 10 12:55:48 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:55:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Positive Rear Camber, why not for live axle rear suspension. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000701c7ab90$f76fad40$e64f07c0$@com> Some of the super serious H,G, and F Prod guys have their rear axle case cut and about 1 degree negative camber built in, and use a half shaft that has an end like those Allen wrenches that can connect slightly off angle. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daniel1312 at aol.com Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 1:51 PM To: derf247 at gmail.com; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Positive Rear Camber, why not for live axle rear suspension. Probably because with a live axle car, body roll doesn't result in a camber change at the wheel or as much of a camber change as IRS does at the wheel. I don't claim to be a big suspension expert and don't have a handy reference to quote. Daniel1312 In a message dated 10/06/07 19:38:17 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: > I never did get this straight. > If positive rear camber is good for cornering on IRS setups, why > wouldn't it be good on live axles? From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 12:56:14 2007 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:56:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] half shaft retainer In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706101129o794d756cwb55b9a61bceec8c0@mail.gmail.com> References: <466C2CF9.5070208@smarc.net> <239508.41983.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5f00d9910706101129o794d756cwb55b9a61bceec8c0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0706101156x72457dacqe4f9bf0e4a558bbd@mail.gmail.com> Wow. After all of that I feel really stupid having just used my Phillips screwdriver to do the rear brakes on my car last week! ;-) I should have done better homework. I'll study this page before I pick up another driver http://www.justbrits.com/pozi/pozidriv.html. I find it amazingly odd that nobody argued with Derf about the quantities of screws are in which location. I don't want to be left out of the competition so I'll take the task. Check your manuals or parts catalogs, or I can walk out to the garage and snap a picture for you. There are two, apparently Pozidriv, screws that secure the drum to the axle, and one similar screw holding the axle to the hub flange. I guess the DPO (who installed the brakes wrong!) must have used the correct Pozidriv screwdriver or just got lucky like I must have and not visibly damaged the screws using my #2 Phillips drive. Oh, and Marc ... I had the exact same question in my mind of what holds this all together until I actually pulled the half shafts on my car to replace leaking seals. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 12:58:36 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:58:36 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] half shaft retainer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706101158v5cbf97bfn9db680da0edcc60a@mail.gmail.com> http://www.justbrits.com/pozi/pozidriv.html Ok, I wrote "Phillips" when I should have written "Pozidriv". You wrote "Posidrive" when you were referring to "Pozidriv". Now you're putting an "e" on the end of "Pozidriv". I'll bet that your body shop would chew up Pozidriv screws even if they are using the proper tool. A good shop might damage one fastener, but then they would figure out why and not damage any more. My best friend runs a good body shop. "I't's not a FACT you can do a perfectly good job that you use a Phillips screwdriver to undo a Pozidrive screw." Although I don't totally understand the diction, I CAN remove and install Pozidriv screws with a Phillips driver without damaging them. BTDT. Maybe this wouldn't be dragged out so much if you had used "BTW" instead of "HA!" in your original post. You have a valid point, but you don't have to be so crass about it. Bring that car to me and I'll remove and install the "Pozidriv" screws for you with my Phillips driver. If I damage one, I'll buy you a new set. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 13:03:46 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:03:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Positive Rear Camber, why not for live axle rear suspension. In-Reply-To: <000701c7ab90$f76fad40$e64f07c0$@com> References: <000701c7ab90$f76fad40$e64f07c0$@com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706101203n29802b17u65ea23000aec91a@mail.gmail.com> Duh, I meant Negative Camber. I know I've seen pictures of some really beefed up Spridget rear ends that had a little NEGATIVE camber built in. I know it is a good thing for extreme cornering. I just can't say exactly why. The body roll thing is right, less effect than IRS. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 13:06:13 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:06:13 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] half shaft retainer In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0706101156x72457dacqe4f9bf0e4a558bbd@mail.gmail.com> References: <466C2CF9.5070208@smarc.net> <239508.41983.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5f00d9910706101129o794d756cwb55b9a61bceec8c0@mail.gmail.com> <8de85a9c0706101156x72457dacqe4f9bf0e4a558bbd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706101206k42b89eb3pfe2b803f504ca533@mail.gmail.com> > I find it amazingly odd that nobody argued with Derf about the > quantities of screws are in which location. I don't want to be left > out of the competition so I'll take the task. > Ah, but that is where my "IIRC" disclaimer comes in. You are correct, IInowRC. I know there are 3. From Daniel1312 at aol.com Sun Jun 10 13:08:02 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 15:08:02 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] half shaft retainer Message-ID: Maybe this wouldn't have dragged out so long if you'd have told me you didn't like my HA but admitted you were wrong. I could have said sorry if you didn't like my HA. I can say I'm sorry and do have to practice saying so but can you admit you are wrong? I know I can. Daniel1312 In a message dated 10/06/07 19:58:48 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: > > Maybe this wouldn't be dragged out so much if you had used "BTW" > instead of "HA!" in your original post. You have a valid point, but > you don't have to be so crass about it. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 13:10:25 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:10:25 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Can't argue this one, Saw Keith Turk on ESPN2 Message-ID: <5f00d9910706101210m5bee1493yb46fcdfa89474421@mail.gmail.com> While dining at Buffalo Wild Wings and watching tennis, trivia, and whatever else I gazed at an HD monitor and saw none other than lister Keith Turk on the screen. I think they were running "Frankenstein" at Bonneville. He was wearing an orange hat. I think the camera added 10 years as he looked a whole lot younger when I met him. Still, nice to see a familiar face having fun with a car on national TV. From Daniel1312 at aol.com Sun Jun 10 13:11:34 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 15:11:34 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Positive Rear Camber, why not for live axle rear suspension. Message-ID: Are their lap times consistently quicker? In a message dated 10/06/07 19:56:42 GMT Daylight Time, wsthompson at thicko.com writes: > Subj:RE: [Spridgets] Positive Rear Camber, why not for live axle rear > suspension. > Date:10/06/07 19:56:42 GMT Daylight Time > From:wsthompson at thicko.com > To:Daniel1312 at aol.com, derf247 at gmail.com, spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent from the Internet > > > > Some of the super serious H,G, and F Prod guys have their rear axle case cut > and about 1 degree negative camber built in, and use a half shaft that has > an end like those Allen wrenches that can connect slightly off angle. > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daniel1312 at aol.com > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 1:51 PM > To: derf247 at gmail.com; spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Positive Rear Camber, why not for live axle rear > suspension. > > Probably because with a live axle car, body roll doesn't result in a camber > change at the wheel or as much of a camber change as IRS does at the wheel. > > I don't claim to be a big suspension expert and don't have a handy reference > > to quote. > > Daniel1312 From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 13:19:57 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:19:57 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] half shaft retainer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706101219y450098a0m3e3764a1f70ae2f3@mail.gmail.com> Heck, I'm wrong most of the time. How long you been on this list? I've been spouting opinions off and on for over 10 years. > I can say I'm sorry and do have to practice saying so but can you admit you > are wrong? I know I can. Wait, I did that already: "Posidrive is the correct term, and the correct tool to use for those fasteners. Here you go: I was wrong to call those fasteners Phillips, they should be Pozidriv. You were absolutely right to name them Pozidriv(spelling notwithstanding). One should use a Pozidriv driver for those fasteners. I should have stated "While I can remove and install those fasteners with a Phillips driver, the correct tool is a Pozidriv driver, which you should use, if at all possible." Cheers, Derf From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 13:22:52 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 14:22:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] One of my other projects nearly complete...No LBC Message-ID: <43840a7e0706101222u76f2995dgca5de03d7ea21cb4@mail.gmail.com> For those who might appreciate it, one of my other passions is BMW motorcycles. Yesterday I finally got the 5 year restoration off the lift and rolled it outside for some pictures. If old BMW motorcycles (1964 R60/2) interest you, take a look at the whole story.... This one is only a hair away from concours. http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/flu/flu.html Cheers!! Jim -- 1964 R60/2 BMW 1968 MG Midget 1976 R90/6 BMW 1990 K100LT BMW Thomas Huxley - "It is not who is right, but what is right, that is of importance." From Daniel1312 at aol.com Sun Jun 10 13:28:43 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 15:28:43 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] half shaft retainer Message-ID: Just after Sprite Rush 1998. In a message dated 10/06/07 20:19:59 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: > How long you been on this list From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 13:34:57 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:34:57 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] One of my other projects nearly complete...No LBC In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0706101222u76f2995dgca5de03d7ea21cb4@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0706101222u76f2995dgca5de03d7ea21cb4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706101234s552a5716o9dda8e8dc55dfae3@mail.gmail.com> I saw a newer Triumph bike at a restaurant the other day. It was parked next to a Harley. The Triumph looked a whole lot better to me. Harleys just don't do anything for me anymore. They got marketed to dentists and lawyers and just don't appeal to me anymore. No offense to any Harley owners, dentists or lawyers. My dad had Harleys when I was growing up. They were cool. I always planned to have one or two when I grew up. Someone turned the Harley mystique into a marketing gold mine. Now I'd prefer a Suzuki crotch rocket, BMW touring bike, or Norton or Triumph. Harleys are everywhere and I don't relate to most of the owners anymore. I saw a "Boss Hoss" yesterday. It is basically a small block Chevy V-8 with chrome and two wheels. Nice, but I'll take a nice big Suzuki and have much more fun. Your Bimmer looks cool. I heard a funny one a while back: "The ONLY thing worse than a d^%&*@ dentist on a Harley is a d^%&*@ dentist on a Gold Wing!" Again, no offense. Just back in the day, bikers, cops, and a few lucky people had Harleys. I'm sure they are still great, just not for me anymore. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 13:36:08 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:36:08 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] half shaft retainer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706101236s67567603n6a2624b557d6ca74@mail.gmail.com> That may be longer than me. Either way, feel free to correct me and I'll stand(sit?) corrected. On 6/10/07, Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: > Just after Sprite Rush 1998. > > In a message dated 10/06/07 20:19:59 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com > writes: > > > > How long you been on this list From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 13:48:17 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:48:17 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Off topic, Chess, Hit delete or suffer the consequences. Message-ID: <5f00d9910706101248v42beacd2ufc9dad892a403260@mail.gmail.com> Any Chess players on the list? Play online? If so, where? I'm not good, but I'm looking to improve. Funny thing, when I was having Kidney stone trouble and taking Percocet (narcotic), my rating jumped up over 100 points. Now, I'm back down below where I was before. Cheers, Derf From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 14:37:22 2007 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 15:37:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] One of my other projects nearly complete...No LBC In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0706101222u76f2995dgca5de03d7ea21cb4@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0706101222u76f2995dgca5de03d7ea21cb4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0706101337j7b72ee6dn2d4baeb2602ce24e@mail.gmail.com> Jim, I'm not a big follower of motorcycles but that is one seriously cool looking bike! It may not be LBC content but I'm glad you shared it with us. I took great interest in where you mention pulling it out of the garage next year on June 9th, 2008 and do wonder how you managed to get the pictures already!?! Any chance you can get some good pictures of my car from next year so I know whether I should keep going or just pull the plug on it now? From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 14:48:25 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 16:48:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] New Genny problem Message-ID: <205cef430706101348w6b414b27ld77ef37efa02de79@mail.gmail.com> Frank & List, I finally installed my new generator (the kind with the threads for a tach drive unit) on my 62 Sprite 12cc motor I tightened the bolts and the fan belt appeared tight. When I started her up I saw a puff of smoke turned the engine off but do not know where the smoke came from. Then I started it again no smoke but I don't see the fan blade turning. I turned off the motor and checked the belt and now it is loose. The generator was reconditioned at my local auto electric shop several months ago. Did I over tighten and burn it up? Why wouldn't the fan blade turn? Lin 62 California Sprite "Pinky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 14:53:51 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 14:53:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] New Genny problem In-Reply-To: <205cef430706101348w6b414b27ld77ef37efa02de79@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430706101348w6b414b27ld77ef37efa02de79@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706101353m75b222dchd6196eb386e4b725@mail.gmail.com> More info needed. Is the genny locked up(won't turn)? Could the water pump be locked up? Smoke could be from genny internals or belt. Did the smoke smell "electrical" or like burned rubber? Or, both? What still turns and what doesn't. From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 14:57:17 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 16:57:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] New Genny problem In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706101353m75b222dchd6196eb386e4b725@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430706101348w6b414b27ld77ef37efa02de79@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910706101353m75b222dchd6196eb386e4b725@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430706101357s571be35bl39878bab451e4cdc@mail.gmail.com> Derf, It smelled like rubber the genny turns and the fan turns by hand. Lin On 6/10/07, derf wrote: > > More info needed. > Is the genny locked up(won't turn)? > Could the water pump be locked up? > Smoke could be from genny internals or belt. Did the smoke smell > "electrical" or like burned rubber? Or, both? > What still turns and what doesn't. From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 15:00:29 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 17:00:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] One of my other projects nearly complete...No LBC In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0706101222u76f2995dgca5de03d7ea21cb4@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0706101222u76f2995dgca5de03d7ea21cb4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430706101400q5e9aeddu5f7d7507e9a0892d@mail.gmail.com> Jim, Looks great and I especially like Duane's idea of the beemer in the living room. Lin On 6/10/07, Jim Johnson wrote: > > For those who might appreciate it, one of my other passions is BMW > motorcycles. Yesterday I finally got the 5 year restoration off the > lift and rolled it outside for some pictures. If old BMW motorcycles > (1964 R60/2) interest you, take a look at the whole story.... This > one is only a hair away from concours. > > http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/flu/flu.html > > Cheers!! > Jim > -- > 1964 R60/2 BMW > 1968 MG Midget > 1976 R90/6 BMW > 1990 K100LT BMW > Thomas Huxley - "It is not who is right, but what is right, that is of > importance." > _______________________________________________ > grunthaner at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 15:02:59 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 17:02:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] New Genny problem In-Reply-To: <205cef430706101357s571be35bl39878bab451e4cdc@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430706101348w6b414b27ld77ef37efa02de79@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910706101353m75b222dchd6196eb386e4b725@mail.gmail.com> <205cef430706101357s571be35bl39878bab451e4cdc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430706101402n7a68fd86o5806c5ae5d885cc@mail.gmail.com> Derf, Should I readjust the genny so the belt is tight again and start up again? I just don't want to break anything. Lin On 6/10/07, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > Derf, > It smelled like rubber the genny turns and the fan turns by hand. > Lin > > On 6/10/07, derf wrote: > > > > More info needed. > > Is the genny locked up(won't turn)? > > Could the water pump be locked up? > > Smoke could be from genny internals or belt. Did the smoke smell > > "electrical" or like burned rubber? Or, both? > > What still turns and what doesn't. From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jun 10 14:26:56 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:26:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Positive Rear Camber, why not for live axle rear suspension. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <665361.32985.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: > don't have a handy reference > to quote. You might check and see if it's in Stapleton's How to Powertune...", ooops, nevermind. You've probably read it. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/norton/index.php From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 15:15:41 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 15:15:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] New Genny problem In-Reply-To: <205cef430706101402n7a68fd86o5806c5ae5d885cc@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430706101348w6b414b27ld77ef37efa02de79@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910706101353m75b222dchd6196eb386e4b725@mail.gmail.com> <205cef430706101357s571be35bl39878bab451e4cdc@mail.gmail.com> <205cef430706101402n7a68fd86o5806c5ae5d885cc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706101415q1e84d712x9a1ca4a0480e4249@mail.gmail.com> If the water pump and genny turn freely by hand, then I would try tightening the belt again. Get the tension on the belt to where you can't turn the fan blade easily by hand. If you can turn the fan blade and it easily slips in the belt then the belt should be a little tighter. Is is possible you didn't tighten all the bolts the first time? Cheers, Derf On 6/10/07, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Derf, > Should I readjust the genny so the belt is tight again and start up again? I > just don't want to break anything. > Lin > > > On 6/10/07, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > Derf, > > It smelled like rubber the genny turns and the fan turns by hand. > > Lin > > > > > > > > On 6/10/07, derf < derf247 at gmail.com > wrote: > > > More info needed. > > > Is the genny locked up(won't turn)? > > > Could the water pump be locked up? > > > Smoke could be from genny internals or belt. Did the smoke smell > > > "electrical" or like burned rubber? Or, both? > > > What still turns and what doesn't. From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 15:33:09 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 17:33:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] New Genny problem In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706101415q1e84d712x9a1ca4a0480e4249@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430706101348w6b414b27ld77ef37efa02de79@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910706101353m75b222dchd6196eb386e4b725@mail.gmail.com> <205cef430706101357s571be35bl39878bab451e4cdc@mail.gmail.com> <205cef430706101402n7a68fd86o5806c5ae5d885cc@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910706101415q1e84d712x9a1ca4a0480e4249@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430706101433i753a38cag25f300d359cdeefd@mail.gmail.com> Derf, Thanks I figured it out while waiting, the belt had slipped off the lower pulley on the engine. It was tough to get off which is where the smoke came from. It is all together now and I even checked the output on the battery well over 14 volts at high revs. Thanks so much for your help. She runs great now. If anyone wants my old genny it is not a threaded type and a piece where the bold goes through on top near the fan broke off but I used it as is all year and works fine. Free for the list just pay for postage. Happy Motoring, Linda & Pinky : ) On 6/10/07, derf wrote: > > If the water pump and genny turn freely by hand, then I would try > tightening the belt again. Get the tension on the belt to where you > can't turn the fan blade easily by hand. If you can turn the fan > blade and it easily slips in the belt then the belt should be a little > tighter. Is is possible you didn't tighten all the bolts the first > time? > Cheers, > Derf > > On 6/10/07, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > Derf, > > Should I readjust the genny so the belt is tight again and start up > again? I > > just don't want to break anything. > > Lin > > > > > > On 6/10/07, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > > Derf, > > > It smelled like rubber the genny turns and the fan turns by hand. > > > Lin > > > > > > > > > > > > On 6/10/07, derf < derf247 at gmail.com > wrote: > > > > More info needed. > > > > Is the genny locked up(won't turn)? > > > > Could the water pump be locked up? > > > > Smoke could be from genny internals or belt. Did the smoke smell > > > > "electrical" or like burned rubber? Or, both? > > > > What still turns and what doesn't. From jlaird237 at cox.net Sun Jun 10 16:08:33 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 17:08:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New Genny problem References: <205cef430706101348w6b414b27ld77ef37efa02de79@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <005201c7abab$e30966f0$6401a8c0@personal> Belt is prob stuck under the dampner. hehe. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner" To: "Frank Clarici" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 3:48 PM Subject: [Spridgets] New Genny problem > Frank & List, > I finally installed my new generator (the kind with the threads for a tach > drive unit) on my 62 Sprite 12cc motor I tightened the bolts and the fan > belt appeared tight. When I started her up I saw a puff of smoke turned > the > engine off but do not know where the smoke came from. Then I started it > again no smoke but I don't see the fan blade turning. I turned off the > motor > and checked the belt and now it is loose. The generator was reconditioned > at > my local auto electric shop several months ago. Did I over tighten and > burn > it up? Why wouldn't the fan blade turn? > Lin > > 62 California Sprite "Pinky" > www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/842 - Release Date: 6/9/2007 > 10:46 AM From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jun 10 16:13:21 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 17:13:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Positive Rear Camber, why not for live axle rear suspension. References: <665361.32985.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <080d01c7abac$8fb95180$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Positive Rear Camber, why not for live axle rear suspension. --- Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: > don't have a handy reference > to quote. You might check and see if it's in Stapleton's How to Powertune...", ooops, nevermind. You've probably read it. Ron ============================== I don't know about using that book. Not after what I heard. Ed BTW, does anybody know why the factory originally dialed these things in with positive camber? That makes no sense to me at all and goes against everything I've ever heard. From Daniel1312 at aol.com Sun Jun 10 16:29:12 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 18:29:12 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Adventures in race prep (was RE: Blackhawk & Mosport) Message-ID: These are all stock iron plates? Aren't you allowed to run the Aluminium plate? Regards Daniel In a message dated 09/06/07 20:23:18 GMT Daylight Time, soavero at yahoo.com writes: > BOTH 1275 plates, wtf). From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Jun 10 17:44:28 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 23:44:28 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Positive Rear Camber, why not for live axle rear suspension. Message-ID: "Duh, I meant NEGATIVE camber" Having owned and autocrossed a Corvair.... I knew that, Derf. I sorta figured you'd get around to straightening it out! :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) -----Original Message----- From: derf Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 3:03 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Positive Rear Camber, why not for live axle rear suspension. Duh, I meant Negative Camber. I know I've seen pictures of some really beefed up Spridget rear ends that had a little NEGATIVE camber built in. I know it is a good thing for extreme cornering. I just can't say exactly why. The body roll thing is right, less effect than IRS. _______________________________________________ pilotrob at webtv.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jun 10 17:54:14 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:54:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Untraceable sputter Message-ID: <466C8F26.2080104@comcast.net> I am going nuts again trying to figure out WHAT is causing a sputter, a major sputter or high rev miss. 69 Midget (BABE rally car) 1275, stock with SUs. It runs perfect and will wind up real nice with no problems unless you stomp on it and tach it up over 5000 Rs between shifts. Then is misses and bad. I did find the loose rivet on the coil, I changed coils and thought the problem was solved. Nope. Changed the points, still there. I retarded the timing cause it felt like it was over advancing with the vac advance. No cure. It is not carbs becuase I tryed pulling the choke during the miss, it does not change and it's only there if you floor it and wind it up. Driving it like an old lady and it never misses a beat. Carbs have oil. I did not swap out dizzys yet, that's next. Larry, did you guys have this problem on the rally? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From robert at valentinephoto.net Sun Jun 10 18:14:11 2007 From: robert at valentinephoto.net (Robert A. Valentine) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:14:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Untraceable sputter In-Reply-To: <466C8F26.2080104@comcast.net> References: <466C8F26.2080104@comcast.net> Message-ID: I don't remember it sputtering. It kinda went like stink for us. At least it ran better than the "other" cars on the trip. (For those who don't remember... it was a junker rallye.) ;-) - Rob Valentine 74 Yellow Bugeye'd Midget On Jun 10, 2007, at 7:54 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > I am going nuts again trying to figure out WHAT is causing a sputter, > a major sputter or high rev miss. > 69 Midget (BABE rally car) 1275, stock with SUs. > It runs perfect and will wind up real nice with no problems unless you > stomp on it and tach it up over 5000 Rs between shifts. > Then is misses and bad. > I did find the loose rivet on the coil, I changed coils and thought > the > problem was solved. Nope. Changed the points, still there. > I retarded the timing cause it felt like it was over advancing with > the > vac advance. No cure. > It is not carbs becuase I tryed pulling the choke during the miss, it > does not change and it's only there if you floor it and wind it up. > Driving it like an old lady and it never misses a beat. > Carbs have oil. > I did not swap out dizzys yet, that's next. > > Larry, did you guys have this problem on the rally? > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > robert at valentinephoto.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Jun 10 18:25:02 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:25:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Untraceable sputter In-Reply-To: References: <466C8F26.2080104@comcast.net> Message-ID: <000001c7abbe$f5ba6d40$e12f47c0$@com> I'm quite sure it's the 5 speed... -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert A. Valentine Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 7:14 PM To: Frank Clarici Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Untraceable sputter I don't remember it sputtering. It kinda went like stink for us. At least it ran better than the "other" cars on the trip. (For those who don't remember... it was a junker rallye.) ;-) - Rob Valentine 74 Yellow Bugeye'd Midget On Jun 10, 2007, at 7:54 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > I am going nuts again trying to figure out WHAT is causing a sputter, > a major sputter or high rev miss. > 69 Midget (BABE rally car) 1275, stock with SUs. > It runs perfect and will wind up real nice with no problems unless you > stomp on it and tach it up over 5000 Rs between shifts. > Then is misses and bad. > I did find the loose rivet on the coil, I changed coils and thought > the > problem was solved. Nope. Changed the points, still there. > I retarded the timing cause it felt like it was over advancing with > the > vac advance. No cure. > It is not carbs becuase I tryed pulling the choke during the miss, it > does not change and it's only there if you floor it and wind it up. > Driving it like an old lady and it never misses a beat. > Carbs have oil. > I did not swap out dizzys yet, that's next. > > Larry, did you guys have this problem on the rally? > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Jun 10 18:52:10 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:52:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] One of my other projects nearly complete...No LBC References: <43840a7e0706101222u76f2995dgca5de03d7ea21cb4@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910706101234s552a5716o9dda8e8dc55dfae3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <057201c7abc2$be6cb970$0401a8c0@midget> > I saw a "Boss Hoss" yesterday. It is basically a small block Chevy > V-8 with chrome and two wheels. Ahh, but that was the LITTLE Boss Hoss! Have you seen the one with 502CID and nitrous? I have seen one and wondered how the rider managed to straddle the bike as I couldn't see any signs of the side saddle. www.bosshoss.com I guess I am getting old, but I like the idea of Honest Charlie's Flathead Ford V8 motorcycles better... http://www.honestcharley.com/V860.htm David Lieb From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jun 10 18:55:17 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:55:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Cruel or dumb? no LBC Message-ID: <466C9D75.2060903@comcast.net> A neighborhood kid, just 17 with his brand new drivers license stopped over today desperatly seeking help with his new car. I asked him what kind of car and he tells me a 1947 Desoto! It blew it's oil filter and it has electrical issues. So like the good "old man" I am, I stopped over the kids house, there sits a 47 Desoto that must have been sitting since 1965. What a mess, what a tank! And all the wires just crumble when you touch them. I asked the kid what he paid for it, he says with a confident smile "only $4,000". It looks like he paid 3900 too much. But he says it has new tires, yeah, brand new bias ply tires put on in 1976 when the last inspection of the car was. So I feel the seller was cruel to sell this thing to a 17 year old kid. Sure the kid was dumb but he does have parents. Are they dumb too? His dad doesn't know what a wrench is, nor does the kid for that matter. Would you let your kid buy a 60 year old car that needs paint, mechanicals, interior, all the glass, and a new harness? Besides, I don't know much about DeSotos, and I can't find a new harness for it in my crates of Spridget parts. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From mconn2 at bright.net Sun Jun 10 18:56:50 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:56:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility ? References: <012c01c7a983$8f95d640$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <5f00d9910706072155h2233eb84gbdc676b21d291c2a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001201c7abc3$8e19b3d0$8c34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> You didn't mean Dylan Thomas do you? You meant to type Robert Zimmerman (aka Bob Dylan) didn't you? "Oh, give me a home where the buffalo roam, and the deer and the antelope roam, where hardly is heard a disparaging word and the clouds are not gray all the day. Home, home on the range.................." Da molto viva la Repubblica. ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "Michael Conn" Cc: "Fisher or Elizabeth Jones" ; "spridgets" Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 12:55 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Civility ? > Now look what you've gone and done. Now he's quoting Dylan Thomas again. > > On 6/7/07, Michael Conn wrote: > >> Please, say you've got the idea, and that you're not offended any more. >> (Dylan wrote "The rules of the road have been lodged, but it's only other >> peoples games that you've got to dodge". >> >> Michael From mconn2 at bright.net Sun Jun 10 19:00:08 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:00:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster References: <4663AA6C.3060508@autox.team.net> <002b01c7a6c9$6b4575a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <4663E48A.2474.D4E917@dmg.bossig.com> <01c301c7a8a9$42f80b80$eaaeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> <007601c7a8df$4edfc650$8c578956@tairswork> <43840a7e0706070707i4aa40ff1s76a6d870a46eebb1@mail.gmail.com> <004c01c7a97c$e9bbb420$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <441250190706072224w6632f47m292d56596ae9b3e8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001901c7abc3$dc1ba480$8c34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> I can tell you I miss roundabouts so much. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Gilroy To: Michael Conn Cc: Jim Johnson ; spridgets Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 1:24 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster Weird, I thought this thread started out talking about roundabouts? On 6/7/07, Michael Conn wrote: Jim, Don't you all start getting on at me again. You all know how sensitive I am! From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 19:04:08 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:04:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster References: <4663AA6C.3060508@autox.team.net><002b01c7a6c9$6b4575a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov><4663E48A.2474.D4E917@dmg.bossig.com><01c301c7a8a9$42f80b80$eaaeadd1@YOURD28EB17757><007601c7a8df$4edfc650$8c578956@tairswork><43840a7e0706070707i4aa40ff1s76a6d870a46eebb1@mail.gmail.com><004c01c7a97c$e9bbb420$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757><441250190706072224w6632f47m292d56596ae9b3e8@mail.gmail.com> <001901c7abc3$dc1ba480$8c34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <00c601c7abc4$6b1cd5a0$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> Take a trip to Eash., DC. Plenty of them!! From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Jun 10 19:05:37 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:05:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster References: <4663AA6C.3060508@autox.team.net><002b01c7a6c9$6b4575a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov><4663E48A.2474.D4E917@dmg.bossig.com><01c301c7a8a9$42f80b80$eaaeadd1@YOURD28EB17757><007601c7a8df$4edfc650$8c578956@tairswork><43840a7e0706070707i4aa40ff1s76a6d870a46eebb1@mail.gmail.com><004c01c7a97c$e9bbb420$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757><441250190706072224w6632f47m292d56596ae9b3e8@mail.gmail.com> <001901c7abc3$dc1ba480$8c34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <05a801c7abc4$9f2c78a0$0401a8c0@midget> >I can tell you I miss roundabouts so much. Rejoice. It is better to miss them than to live in a city that has exactly three of them, only one of which sees any volume of traffic. This means that any time that you arrive at the thing (locally known as "Suicide Circle"), at least three of the six entrances are manned by drivers who have never seen a roundabout before. Add to that the fact that the diameter is inadequate for a 2-lane circle plus the fact that every entrance has a stop sign, and you have a recipe for earning that nickname. It is an area to avoid assiduously. David Lieb From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Sun Jun 10 19:06:26 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:06:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster References: <4663AA6C.3060508@autox.team.net><002b01c7a6c9$6b4575a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov><4663E48A.2474.D4E917@dmg.bossig.com><01c301c7a8a9$42f80b80$eaaeadd1@YOURD28EB17757><007601c7a8df$4edfc650$8c578956@tairswork><43840a7e0706070707i4aa40ff1s76a6d870a46eebb1@mail.gmail.com><004c01c7a97c$e9bbb420$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757><441250190706072224w6632f47m292d56596ae9b3e8@mail.gmail.com><001901c7abc3$dc1ba480$8c34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <00c601c7abc4$6b1cd5a0$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <00ea01c7abc4$bcb24d50$6501a8c0@actualshop> RATS, fat fingers win again!!! <> That should be Washington, DC!!!! From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Jun 10 19:10:29 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 18:10:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Cruel or dumb? no LBC In-Reply-To: <466C9D75.2060903@comcast.net> Message-ID: That's not a bad car. Does it have fluid drive? BZ From mconn2 at bright.net Sun Jun 10 19:11:08 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:11:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? References: <002c01c7a980$18e94fc0$f675fea9@p0k7l8><5f00d9910706072153u2f19f7d6lfac31fbbb5d524b1@mail.gmail.com> <002601c7a98e$2f474ac0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <002201c7abc5$64e98100$8c34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Paul, My very first car was a Morris, but I can't remember which one. It was a two seater tourer. Have you any idea which one it would be? I can remember it only had 3 gears, and that I had to speed up to get to the speed limit of 30 mph. I think I'd remember, if you were to say it. My former wife hated it. Come to think of it, she hated a lot of things about me. Can't say I blame her. (She enjoyed me driving her in her father's 3.5 Rover. I had to wear a peaked cap, and she sat in the back. I never did discover what that was all about.) Quello che sara, sara, he said with sadness. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Asgeirsson" To: "derf" Cc: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 1:30 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? > Hi Derf, > > Yes, I have. There are some problems with it fitting and the location of > the starter and the shifter. Likely all that can be taken care of, but it > won't be a rather simple bolt up like the Datsun 210 is. > > And of course I'd like it to fit the Morris Minor, too. That might even > be > worse!! > > It might well take the motto, Anything can be done, all it takes is > money!! > > More to follow. > > Later, Paul A > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "derf" > To: "Paul Asgeirsson" > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 9:53 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hello and Kingpin bushings? > > >> Hey, Paul, have you ever looked at the Miata tranny for a possible >> conversion? I see them here and there for $150 and they're pretty >> tough, handling 200+ horsepower in some applications. > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 19:17:35 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:17:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Off topic, Chess, Hit delete or suffer the consequences. In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706101248v42beacd2ufc9dad892a403260@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910706101248v42beacd2ufc9dad892a403260@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430706101817i8607f95ge614ef4e9f76c56d@mail.gmail.com> Derf, I play, let me ask my kids at school what a good site is. My school is a nerd school they all walk around with Ti 89 graphing calculators and most play chess. Lin On 6/10/07, derf wrote: > > Any Chess players on the list? > Play online? > If so, where? > > I'm not good, but I'm looking to improve. Funny thing, when I was > having Kidney stone trouble and taking Percocet (narcotic), my rating > jumped up over 100 points. Now, I'm back down below where I was > before. > Cheers, > Derf > _______________________________________________ > grunthaner at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 19:56:05 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:56:05 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Positive Rear Camber, why not for live axle rear suspension. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706101856q790f1cb4u85df8f1db2e29787@mail.gmail.com> I have a reputation (of being wrong) to uphold. On 6/10/07, Robert E. Shlafer wrote: > "Duh, I meant NEGATIVE camber" > > Having owned and autocrossed a Corvair.... > I knew that, Derf. I sorta figured you'd get around to straightening it out! :) > > Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 20:01:16 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:01:16 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Untraceable sputter In-Reply-To: <466C8F26.2080104@comcast.net> References: <466C8F26.2080104@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706101901n20010846l9e2039ff2751e121@mail.gmail.com> Suppose you clutch, move to neutral, release the clutch, and rev? Does it still do it? Could it be a clutch thing? There's always the ever present ground fault. Is that ground strap good? Give more hints. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 20:04:10 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:04:10 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] The English odyssey of Frank and Buster In-Reply-To: <001901c7abc3$dc1ba480$8c34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> References: <4663AA6C.3060508@autox.team.net> <002b01c7a6c9$6b4575a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <4663E48A.2474.D4E917@dmg.bossig.com> <01c301c7a8a9$42f80b80$eaaeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> <007601c7a8df$4edfc650$8c578956@tairswork> <43840a7e0706070707i4aa40ff1s76a6d870a46eebb1@mail.gmail.com> <004c01c7a97c$e9bbb420$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <441250190706072224w6632f47m292d56596ae9b3e8@mail.gmail.com> <001901c7abc3$dc1ba480$8c34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706101904r4c69cf60g99e36af489dd3976@mail.gmail.com> On 6/10/07, Michael Conn wrote: > I can tell you I miss roundabouts so much. > There are a few circles in New Orleans. If you see the Dukes of Hazzard movie with Jessica Simpson they show the 69 Charger going around Lee circle dirt track style (drifting for you noobie ricers). Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 20:14:30 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:14:30 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Non LBC, Green(sorta) VW content, Hit delete all who enter here. Message-ID: <5f00d9910706101914i6ce2421ep62021764e32e5fe7@mail.gmail.com> My dad is commuting to work in a VW bug he just finished modding. He put a Kubota diesel motor from a reefer trailer cooler in it. He is running half diesel and have used veggie oil. He's getting about 46 MPG. The veggie oil is free. I don't know what the 0-60 times are but getting 46 with half the fuel for free is not too bad. His next project will be making an electric VW bug from forklift parts he got for free. I've seen an electric Midget somewhere on the web but I wonder how they don't break axles constantly with the instant torque of a DC motor. I guess you just don't accelerate very quickly. Cheers, Derf From shelden3 at pldi.net Sun Jun 10 20:29:53 2007 From: shelden3 at pldi.net (Charlie Shelden) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:29:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Any listers in S.CA near Santa Paula? Message-ID: <008801c7abd0$65427570$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> I'm looking at a car in Santa Paula, looking to see if any listers are able to go put an eye to it possibly. Thanks, Charlie OKC,OK -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1723 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len From mconn2 at bright.net Sun Jun 10 20:38:42 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 22:38:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility ? References: <008301c7a980$55580b90$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <008d01c7abd1$a0ccf650$8c34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Elizabeth, Thank you for your e-mail, and I'm sorry for the delay in replying. I was away for the week-end. I mentioned in an earlier e-mail that when I first joined the List I strongly objected to a conversation going on about guns. I got some good replies to that, I can tell you. Maybe, you saw them, but I certainly sat up and took notice. As a result of the "replies" I apologized to the List, and offered to leave. The response (from more than one member) was no way do you leave. It was pointed out to me that such conversations were just the nature of the List. (I forget what one member called it "good ole boys" or something like that.) So, having said all that, I also say to you, in the strongest possible terms, in no way do you leave. Absolutely, in no way, in no way whatsoever, do you leave. To even think of it is incorrect. I would like you to write me confirming you will remain on the List, please. If you do leave, I shall also immediately do the same thing. (I would not want to leave because these guys have been, and are being, an enormous support to me. Believe me, I know just about nothing about cars. I think it should be illegal for people like me to even own a classic car!) To be candid, I've really quite enjoyed our conversation on a subject which is a "hot potato", so to speak! It's an intriguing subject. I should explain one or two things. I was born and lived in England for most of my life. My mother is English, and my father was an American. For just about my whole life I have needed to come here to the US. My former wife (true blue English) disliked anything to do with America and/or Americans. My work also prevented me coming here. My former wife and I divorced, and slowly but surely I extricated myself from my work. Finally, 12 years ago, I was, at last, able to come here. I am now an American citizen. I am an anti-royalist (I think you've gathered this), and have been for many years. The reasons for my coming here are several and varied, but one of them (in addition to needing to find my roots) was (and is) my anti-royalisim. We can talk about the rise of royalty from as long ago as around the year 900, we can talk about the reasons behind the War of Independence and all the other aspects relating to the subject, but the long and the short of it is you're either a royalist or an anti-royalist (I suppose you could be a 'don't know'). I have found the US to be a hard country to live in. It is unforgiving in many ways. In England I was a well remunerated member of one of the professions. In the US I am a machine operator in a factory, and still find that work very hard, if only from an income point of view. I have suffered anti-Brit comments. In all, it's okay, I'm here. So, okay you're a royalist, and I'm an anti-royalist. Two different points of view on the same subject. Here comes another quote from a Dylan poem!: "You're right from your side, and I am right from mine". That about sums it up, wouldn't you say? As I said earlier there are several reasons why I came to the US when I did, and let me assure you that my anti-royalist sentiments are the simplest of all the reasons to understand! I look forward to receiving the requested confirmation e-mail as soon as possible, please. I have also sent a copy of my e-mail to the List to keep them informed of what I really hope is our understanding on the 'hot potato" subject. (I would be more than happy to talk to you via e-mail off List. It might interest you to know some of the other reasons why I am here.) I'll say it just one more time: I look forward to receiving the requested e-mail as soon as possible, please. Michael From mconn2 at bright.net Sun Jun 10 20:47:25 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 22:47:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility ? References: <008301c7a980$55580b90$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <01ff01c7aa31$159f9d90$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <00ba01c7abd2$d89936b0$8c34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> E, At first I had trouble understanding what you were saying here, but think I understand. Believe me, it was an unintentional error on my part, or, maybe I just didn't understand the rule well enough. Really sorry about that. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "63AHBJ7" <63AHBJ7 at comcast.net> To: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 8:56 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Civility ? > < cc'd to the list as you did, >> > > Which Michael had absolutly should NOT have done since your messges TO him > were NOT "on list", E.!! > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From smarc at smarc.net Sun Jun 10 20:52:01 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 22:52:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] half shaft retainer In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0706101156x72457dacqe4f9bf0e4a558bbd@mail.gmail.com> References: <466C2CF9.5070208@smarc.net> <239508.41983.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5f00d9910706101129o794d756cwb55b9a61bceec8c0@mail.gmail.com> <8de85a9c0706101156x72457dacqe4f9bf0e4a558bbd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <466CB8D1.6040708@smarc.net> Good to know I wasn't the only one! ... it seems obvious now, but I only started wrenching on cars when my first LBC rolled into my garage 6 or 7 years ago... Marc Jethro wrote: > I guess the DPO (who installed the brakes wrong!) must have used the > correct Pozidriv screwdriver or just got lucky like I must have and > not visibly damaged the screws using my #2 Phillips drive. > > Oh, and Marc ... I had the exact same question in my mind of what > holds this all together until I actually pulled the half shafts on my > car to replace leaking seals.s From mconn2 at bright.net Sun Jun 10 20:55:10 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 22:55:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Civility ? References: <008301c7a980$55580b90$3134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <5f00d9910706081918t5af3f9e9nad1ae1bb4ee216cb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00cb01c7abd3$edb43d50$8c34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Well said. I concur. ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "Fisher or Elizabeth Jones" Cc: "Michael Conn" ; Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Civility ? > If you unsubscribe, then you are missing the point. Freedom of speech > is a two edged sword. In order to be able to state your opinions, you > must also be able to let others state their opinions. Even if they're > wrong. I've been on the list for a while. There is no better list. > The people make this list great. Diversity is the spice of life. > Keep that stiff British upper lip. Defend your Queen's honor when > she's attacked. Don't let a bunch of criminal Colonists chase you > away. This is like a big social gathering. I guarantee that you > won't like everyone on the list personally. I may be your "jackass > nemesis" here. Someone else may be. The wisdom, knowledge, and > camaraderie of this list are worth putting up with a few comments > that are made in ignorance or poor taste. > I make all sorts of comments. However, if I were to get some off-list > emails from Frank, Buster, et. al., whom I consider to be list "core" > members, telling me to back off, I would. > Maybe I could resurrect "Montana Bob" to show what a real jackass is. > Cheers, > Derf From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 21:07:28 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 22:07:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] One of my other projects nearly complete...No LBC In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0706101337j7b72ee6dn2d4baeb2602ce24e@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0706101222u76f2995dgca5de03d7ea21cb4@mail.gmail.com> <8de85a9c0706101337j7b72ee6dn2d4baeb2602ce24e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0706102007w2c285908n63b7b0c67f595100@mail.gmail.com> On 6/10/07, Jethro wrote: > I took great interest in where you mention pulling it out of the > garage next year on June 9th, 2008 and do wonder how you managed to > get the pictures already!?! > > Any chance you can get some good pictures of my car from next year so > I know whether I should keep going or just pull the plug on it now? Duh!! Guess I'm just obsessed with 2008 being the Spridget Golden Anniversary! Cheers!! Jim From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 21:08:22 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:08:22 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] half shaft retainer In-Reply-To: <466CB8D1.6040708@smarc.net> References: <466C2CF9.5070208@smarc.net> <239508.41983.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5f00d9910706101129o794d756cwb55b9a61bceec8c0@mail.gmail.com> <8de85a9c0706101156x72457dacqe4f9bf0e4a558bbd@mail.gmail.com> <466CB8D1.6040708@smarc.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706102008n67107c51y2b2102b19ae60314@mail.gmail.com> Please, use the correct tool. If you are stuck in the desert and must fix the car and only have a Phillips, then you might get by but you'd better buy all new fasteners at the next opportunity. I checked in the mad scientist lab(my shop) and the tool I use on those screws is a MAC impact bit, 5/16 hex with a P3 designator. The MAC 5/16 hex to 3/8 square drive is part of an impact (hit with a hammer type) tool kit. If I'm in the field I use the hit with a hammer tool but around the lab I use a cheapo HF 3/8 air impact wrench. The impact part may account for why I've never destroyed one of those fasteners, yet. But, I guess I'm overdue. And, yes, everyone, I know who Daniel1312 is. At first I thought it might be a Bible thing but there isn't a Daniel chapter 13 verse 12. Knowledge is king. I will admit that next time I get to a real tool sale I will price a proper set of Pozidriv driver bits. I found Bristol spline wrenches, so I'm sure Pozidriv won't be too elusive. Cheers, Derf From smarc at smarc.net Sun Jun 10 22:48:14 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 00:48:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Which fuel pump? Message-ID: <466CD40E.7080507@smarc.net> Which SU fuel pump is correct for a 73 Midget (1275) with the proper HS-2 carbs? As mentioned, my midget arrived with a weber DGV, now removed, but someone replaced the SU fuel pump with an after market generic one. A Moss or VB part number would be helpful! Unfortunately they cut off the banjo fittings, but Moss has a repair kit (376-108) to resolve that very problem, although I think it was marketed for MGB's. Are the banjo connectors the same size between a B & a Midget? -- Marc From smarc at smarc.net Sun Jun 10 23:22:48 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 01:22:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Brakes (was Re: Hi ya) In-Reply-To: <4668F500.8070005@smarc.net> References: <4668F500.8070005@smarc.net> Message-ID: <466CDC28.1040702@smarc.net> Pulled the calipers, and after alternating between carefully persuading the pistons back in with a C clamp, and applying compressed air to the inlet, I got them freed up enough to pop the pistons out. Didn't find any rust, but an awful lot of 'spooge' in there. Pistons cleaned up nicely with a short dip in parts cleaner and a rag. No scarring or pitting. So I think the calipers are salvageable, which will save a few $$$. Seated the pistons fully, plugged the hose connection, and glass beaded them. Look great, will give 'em a shot of hi temp paint (probably silver - what color was OEM?) and new piston seals and call it good! Anyone have any recommendations on replacement rotors? Moss sells two, one is Brembo brand, the other an unnamed after market item. Brakes are an area I don't like to cheap out on, but if there is no discernible difference, I wouldn't mind a little economy... Marc > > The front calipers seem frozen, and wont really release the rotors. They > drag really badly. I cracked open the bleeders, some fairly clean fluid > trickled out, but the calipers wont release, so I figure a complete > brake job, replace hoses, calipers, cylinders, pads and shoes. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 23:37:14 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 23:37:14 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Brakes (was Re: Hi ya) In-Reply-To: <466CDC28.1040702@smarc.net> References: <4668F500.8070005@smarc.net> <466CDC28.1040702@smarc.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706102237r6cb99143t9fe3a2f23156957b@mail.gmail.com> Again, get parts from Peter C. at World Wide in Cheeseheadland. Get the same stuff, cheaper, and support a good business. A quick phone call to him will answer all your questions about the rotors. Not only does he sell stuff, he actually has experience with the stuff. Paul A in the northwest US and Ed at justbrits.com are good, too. All three are knowledgeable and experienced. http://www.nosimport.com/ (800) 362-1025 Ask for Peter C. From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jun 10 23:21:25 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 22:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC Message-ID: <718545.93511.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I think I know the answer to this one, and I don't like it. After 2 good days at Road America 3 weeks ago, I started losing oil pressure and parked the race car (1275 motor). The machine shop I've used for 4 or 5 years closed, I needed work fast and used a different place. The motor came through OK, the crank needed the rod journals turned .010, otherwise all OK. In the interest of time (HA!), the shop assembled the short block. The car wouldn't start. Everything looked OK,the dizzy gear was in properly, TDC looked like TDC on the crank damper marks, etc. I statically timed it. The timing cover was on, so I can't see the gears, but from #1 valve at least, the cam looked properly timed. After consulting with Flounder and Peter, we figured the dizzy was in 180 out. I swapped wires 1&4, 2&3, it started immediately, and ran fine for break in (no load on the motor). I carefully put the motor at TDC, and pulled the dizzy gear. Huh, it still looks correct (slot at 2 o'clok position, "large" half up). I assume my eyes are playing tricks, I verify 100% that the large side is up (which, BTW, is how I've assembled that motor 2 or 3 times). Put it all back, still 180 out. It runs with wires swapped, but not when they are as they should be. Triple check, at TDC the rotor is pointing at #1 wire. The cap, wires, dizzy are the same ones from 3 weeks ago, they have not been touched. So...is the cam installed 180 out, which I assume I will find is a bad thing when the motor is under load? Or doesn't it care? I think it will. The car needs to be on the track this Friday, I'm sick of this sh!t. Ron Soave "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 00:11:51 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 00:11:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC In-Reply-To: <718545.93511.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <718545.93511.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706102311u1f31c5f9k106e84944fba0a0c@mail.gmail.com> Pistons come up in pairs. The motor shouldn't care which one is firing and which one is exhausting. Options: Remove the drive dog pin from the dizzy shaft, turn the drive dog 180 and reinstall the pin. Or, turn the dizzy housing 180. Pull the timing cover and verify timing chain(belt?) marks. Run the motor. I don't think it cares. Here sit I, ready for correction. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 00:14:13 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 00:14:13 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC In-Reply-To: <718545.93511.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <718545.93511.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706102314t1c2a9b63yd599be6d2754cf4a@mail.gmail.com> Dang, I thought of another option. Pull the dizzy drive spindle, rotate it and reinsert it. Won't that get you where you want to be? Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 00:21:47 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 00:21:47 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC In-Reply-To: <718545.93511.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <718545.93511.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706102321n6824e0e7v1d7b872bdced0934@mail.gmail.com> Let me get this straight in my head. Crank turns cam via timing chain(belt?). Cam turns dizzy drive spindle via gear mesh. But, cam and dizzy drive are not specifically timed, unless you index it somehow and set the relationship. Can't you pull the dizzy drive spindle with just the dizzy out? IIRC, you can insert a long 5/16 fine thread(LBC, of course fine thread) bolt into the spindle, which is threaded and pull that spindle out through the dizzy hole. Or, am I relating some other motor I've worked on? Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 00:32:50 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 00:32:50 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC In-Reply-To: <718545.93511.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <718545.93511.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706102332h7264f158t65eba62aaf77c4e9@mail.gmail.com> OK, third or fourth post but I remember now. I had to look at the manual pdfs to jar my memory. Use a 5/16 bolt to remove and "re-time" or re-index the dizzy drive shaft. Just remove the dizzy and the dizzy housing that bolts to the block. Screw the 5/16 bolt into the shaft, pull it out, turn it some and re-insert it. Your cam isn't 180 out. Cheers, Derf From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 04:23:42 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 06:23:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Non LBC, Green(sorta) VW content, Hit delete all who enter here. In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706101914i6ce2421ep62021764e32e5fe7@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910706101914i6ce2421ep62021764e32e5fe7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430706110323h4f1364aanc079855fdaa9a830@mail.gmail.com> Derf, That is so cool I have been shopping around for a VW bus for a while now and I wanted to install a diesel and convert to bio diesel eventually. Can you ask your dad what diesel will fit a Split Window VW or should I go with a Bay window? Any Lister's know of a decent VW bus? Thanks Lin On 6/10/07, derf wrote: > > My dad is commuting to work in a VW bug he just finished modding. He > put a Kubota diesel motor from a reefer trailer cooler in it. He is > running half diesel and have used veggie oil. He's getting about 46 > MPG. The veggie oil is free. I don't know what the 0-60 times are > but getting 46 with half the fuel for free is not too bad. > > His next project will be making an electric VW bug from forklift parts > he got for free. I've seen an electric Midget somewhere on the web > but I wonder how they don't break axles constantly with the instant > torque of a DC motor. I guess you just don't accelerate very quickly. > Cheers, > Derf > _______________________________________________ > grunthaner at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Jun 11 05:41:27 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 06:41:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC In-Reply-To: <718545.93511.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <718545.93511.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001801c7ac1d$74569990$5d03ccb0$@com> Ron, It'll will sound ok, but it's got to be made right. Remember, in a rush, I did the same somehow last year? Any chance you have a vernier cam gear? If so, it's an easy fix. I have changed a cam on a 1275 with the motor in place from underneath by pulling the pan, and holding the lifters in place with grease. But, in your case, being a race motor, it's easier to yank it and do it right. Take a look at the Speedwell site and see the front cover with removable plate. I'm sure your rocket scientists at work could rig one of those up. WST -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 12:21 AM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC I think I know the answer to this one, and I don't like it. After 2 good days at Road America 3 weeks ago, I started losing oil pressure and parked the race car (1275 motor). The machine shop I've used for 4 or 5 years closed, I needed work fast and used a different place. The motor came through OK, the crank needed the rod journals turned .010, otherwise all OK. In the interest of time (HA!), the shop assembled the short block. The car wouldn't start. Everything looked OK,the dizzy gear was in properly, TDC looked like TDC on the crank damper marks, etc. I statically timed it. The timing cover was on, so I can't see the gears, but from #1 valve at least, the cam looked properly timed. After consulting with Flounder and Peter, we figured the dizzy was in 180 out. I swapped wires 1&4, 2&3, it started immediately, and ran fine for break in (no load on the motor). I carefully put the motor at TDC, and pulled the dizzy gear. Huh, it still looks correct (slot at 2 o'clok position, "large" half up). I assume my eyes are playing tricks, I verify 100% that the large side is up (which, BTW, is how I've assembled that motor 2 or 3 times). Put it all back, still 180 out. It runs with wires swapped, but not when they are as they should be. Triple check, at TDC the rotor is pointing at #1 wire. The cap, wires, dizzy are the same ones from 3 weeks ago, they have not been touched. So...is the cam installed 180 out, which I assume I will find is a bad thing when the motor is under load? Or doesn't it care? I think it will. The car needs to be on the track this Friday, I'm sick of this sh!t. Ron Soave From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jun 11 05:42:37 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 06:42:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC References: <718545.93511.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5f00d9910706102311u1f31c5f9k106e84944fba0a0c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <05ed01c7ac1d$9cbf99e0$0401a8c0@midget> > Options: > Remove the drive dog pin from the dizzy shaft, turn the drive dog 180 > and reinstall the pin. Easier than that, pull the inside of the dizzy apart and re-install the connection to the mechanical advance 180-out. Assuming you ain't got one a dem cheatin-dog dizzies ;-) Or use the infamous long 5/16 bolt and rotate the dizzy drive 180. By definition, the cam cannot be 180 out. The dizzy drive can be... From ckotting at wideopenwest.com Mon Jun 11 06:05:16 2007 From: ckotting at wideopenwest.com (CHRIS KOTTING) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 07:05:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cruel or dumb? no LBC In-Reply-To: <466C9D75.2060903@comcast.net> References: <466C9D75.2060903@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20070611120244.M90772@wideopenwest.com> I think the phrase goes: "If you think education is expensive, try ignorance." Seriosly, this kid will learn something valuable out of this. Either he will have anywhere from moderate to serious success with this and will learn a ton about cars and restoration (and perhaps start a career), or he will learn to be more careful with his money. Chris K. On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:55:17 -0400, Frank Clarici wrote > A neighborhood kid, just 17 with his brand new drivers license > stopped over today desperatly seeking help with his new car. I asked > him what kind of car and he tells me a 1947 Desoto! It blew it's oil > filter and it has electrical issues. So like the good "old man" I am, > I stopped over the kids house, there sits a 47 Desoto that must > have been sitting since 1965. What a mess, what a tank! And all the > wires just crumble when you touch them. I asked the kid what he paid > for it, he says with a confident smile "only $4,000". It looks like > he paid 3900 too much. But he says it has new tires, yeah, brand new > bias ply tires put on in 1976 when the last inspection of the car > was. So I feel the seller was cruel to sell this thing to a 17 year > old kid. Sure the kid was dumb but he does have parents. Are they > dumb too? His dad doesn't know what a wrench is, nor does the kid > for that matter. Would you let your kid buy a 60 year old car that > needs paint, mechanicals, interior, all the glass, and a new > harness? Besides, I don't know much about DeSotos, and I can't find > a new harness for it in my crates of Spridget parts. > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > ckotting at wideopenwest.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From John.Deikis at va.gov Mon Jun 11 08:31:49 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:31:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Adventures in race prep (was RE: Blackhawk & Mosport) In-Reply-To: <570628.20559.qm@web30514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <003901c7aa94$d59a7620$80cf6260$@com> <570628.20559.qm@web30514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: You just can't get that kind of service when you work at a hospital! -----Original Message----- From: Ron Soave [mailto:soavero at yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 3:21 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Adventures in race prep (was RE: Blackhawk & Mosport) --- "Wm. Severin Thompson" wrote: > Motor in? Just about. Long night. Memorable, extremely fun, but unexpected. PPP arrives early, around 6-6:30 with motor. We start going through it, it looks OK. We are finishing some little stuff, go to put flywheel on. Massive crack in rear engine plate. Oops. Unclear how/when it happened. I had the flywheel on when it went to the shop, I wouldn't have seen it then. I've had a mystery leak there since March, that could explain a bit. I get another plate, we remember an issue with pump housing on this plate from 2 years ago. Plate is from early thin flanged block. Hmmm looks fine. So we disassemble old one, it won't go on. Like pump hole is in wrong spot. Strange - aren't all pumps (and cam) locations the same? I guess not. We bolt the 2 different plates together for a dimensional check, all holes line up perfectly, like they were match drilled. But....the pump hole is smaller on the new one, like 1/4 inch, and offset from the other one, not concentric to each other (BOTH 1275 plates, wtf). I have 2 different pump covers, one that was on the 1275 in the car, the other a 1275 one I got from Frank (also a 3rd one that came off the thin flanged motor, identical to the one Frank sent). Either the crank hits or the edges of the oil pump. Can't fit both. Again, WTF. It's now 7:45 or so. What are we gonna do. I call my buddy Ron Downs, our MFG director. I tell him there's a hole that's around 4 inches, it needs to be 4.25. Plus it needs to move. He calls the 2nd shift guys, tells them we're coming in, make it happen. Peter and I speed to work in the Alfa, all that's missing is Katherine Ross, Dustin Hoffman, and some Simon and Garfunkel music. We get to work, Peter is duly impressed by the machine shop, 65,000 feet of CNC machines on floors you could eat off of. The guys are also duly impressed with Peter. The boys rig up a fixture and use a flycutter to re-center the hole and re size it. They then set the plate up on a rotating base and use an end mill to make the counterbore relief cut for the oil pump housing. The plate is perfect, better than new. By the time we high-tail it back to the garage in the Alfa, it's 10:00 or so. We do some more assembly of the long block/transmission, PPP takes off around 1 am. Valves are adjusted, final stuff is put on, 2 am. I can usually go til daylight, but a long week has me beat. I've had enough, as I have to be at the field at 8:15 for my son's baseball game (we win, he got the victory and went 3 for 4). More family plans til now, more later starting at 6 PM so I have a small window to work. So....a little more to do today, it'll fire up tomorrow. The boys at work - unbelievable. PPP - what can I say - no finer friend anywhere. Ron Soave "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain ________________________________________________________________________ ____________ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469 From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 08:44:54 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 08:44:54 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Non LBC, Green(sorta) VW content, Hit delete all who enter here. In-Reply-To: <205cef430706110323h4f1364aanc079855fdaa9a830@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910706101914i6ce2421ep62021764e32e5fe7@mail.gmail.com> <205cef430706110323h4f1364aanc079855fdaa9a830@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706110744m4c66534ak68033b1466fb841d@mail.gmail.com> I can ask him. He did a bug and had to fabricate a hood. You should watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XvjVvFdMIY From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 08:59:01 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 08:59:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC In-Reply-To: <05ed01c7ac1d$9cbf99e0$0401a8c0@midget> References: <718545.93511.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5f00d9910706102311u1f31c5f9k106e84944fba0a0c@mail.gmail.com> <05ed01c7ac1d$9cbf99e0$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706110759p1a9c1fd1u491488d18bb3df87@mail.gmail.com> Easier than that just run it with the wires switched. How many races do you get from a motor? You'll have it apart soon anyway. From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Jun 11 09:03:43 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:03:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706110759p1a9c1fd1u491488d18bb3df87@mail.gmail.com> References: <718545.93511.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5f00d9910706102311u1f31c5f9k106e84944fba0a0c@mail.gmail.com> <05ed01c7ac1d$9cbf99e0$0401a8c0@midget> <5f00d9910706110759p1a9c1fd1u491488d18bb3df87@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002b01c7ac39$b5f53d90$21dfb8b0$@com> You guys have to consider Ron is most likely running a scatter pattern cam...so all things are NOT equal. Also, he may have a vernier cam gear, so the fix is relatively easy. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of derf Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:59 AM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC Easier than that just run it with the wires switched. How many races do you get from a motor? You'll have it apart soon anyway. From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 09:16:43 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:16:43 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC In-Reply-To: <002b01c7ac39$b5f53d90$21dfb8b0$@com> References: <718545.93511.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5f00d9910706102311u1f31c5f9k106e84944fba0a0c@mail.gmail.com> <05ed01c7ac1d$9cbf99e0$0401a8c0@midget> <5f00d9910706110759p1a9c1fd1u491488d18bb3df87@mail.gmail.com> <002b01c7ac39$b5f53d90$21dfb8b0$@com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706110816p3d2521ande58847be14606ec@mail.gmail.com> David is right on the "can't be 180 out". It has to be the drive spindle. Unless it was indexed upon installation, it could be in any number of positions relative to the cam. And the scatter pattern won't matter, either. Pistons come up in pairs. The motor doesn't care which one is firing as long as they fire in the right order. Run it like it is, switch the wires. Or, if you have time to waste, pull the drive spindle from the block and index it differently. Cheers, Derf From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 09:27:54 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:27:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Checkout this Near-Miss at an autocross Message-ID: <8a336b9d0706110827r3b174368wb098c085d9b5ae57@mail.gmail.com> http://btdtracing.com/gallery/v/Events/2007/missionfromgod/ Just pictures, driver is in an 03 Miata, pretty sharp on his toes. Photo taken from sound at turn 6, autobahn North course in Joliet. -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 "And what are we doing drinking Cow's milk anyway A cow's not our mother. And did you notice people are starting to look more and more like Cow's every year." - Ron Bennington From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jun 11 10:08:08 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:08:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Checkout this Near-Miss at an autocross Message-ID: <20070611160808.ZGDF25739.tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> I'm surprized not to see some smoke from the tires. > From: Flash. > > Just pictures, driver is in an 03 Miata, pretty sharp on his toes. Photo > taken from sound at turn 6, autobahn North course in Joliet. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jun 11 10:19:36 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 11:19:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Adventures in race prep (was RE: Blackhawk & Mosport) References: <003901c7aa94$d59a7620$80cf6260$@com><570628.20559.qm@web30514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000b01c7ac44$4dfae3b0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > You just can't get that kind of service when you work at a hospital! But just think of the services they can get you! From trevorwj at insightbb.com Mon Jun 11 10:39:07 2007 From: trevorwj at insightbb.com (trevorwj at insightbb.com) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:39:07 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Rally incident NLBC Message-ID: Not your typical rally car video: http://break.com/index/rally-car-passenger-injured.html From ckotting at wideopenwest.com Mon Jun 11 10:48:24 2007 From: ckotting at wideopenwest.com (CHRIS KOTTING) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 11:48:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rally incident NLBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070611164806.M92339@wideopenwest.com> Ouch! On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:39:07 -0400, trevorwj wrote > Not your typical rally car video: > http://break.com/index/rally-car-passenger-injured.html > _______________________________________________ From bvsprite at yahoo.com Mon Jun 11 10:38:25 2007 From: bvsprite at yahoo.com (bv) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:38:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] OSH has Pozidrive bits Message-ID: <10349.65049.qm@web53810.mail.re2.yahoo.com> After seeing the debate on Pozidrive (posidrive) bits, I'd like to share this with the local California crowd. OSH sells a '17 pc bit set' (W130OSH) that includes 'pozidrive'(yep that's how they spell it) # 1,2,3 bits in it. It comes in a little green plastic box with the OSH name on it, and is only about $5-6. They usually have them right near the checkout:-) Regards, Bryan Vandiver San Jose, CA 59 bugeye ____________________________________________________________________________________ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 From wmgilroy at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 11:54:01 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:54:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] OSH has Pozidrive bits In-Reply-To: <10349.65049.qm@web53810.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <10349.65049.qm@web53810.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <441250190706111054l4c9d5c17ta2f6d25bac97dcf@mail.gmail.com> Nice. I paid top dollar off the snapon truck. On 6/11/07, bv wrote: > > After seeing the debate on Pozidrive (posidrive) bits, > I'd like to share this with the local California > crowd. > OSH sells a '17 pc bit set' (W130OSH) that includes > 'pozidrive'(yep that's how they spell it) # 1,2,3 bits > in it. > It comes in a little green plastic box with the OSH > name on it, and is only about $5-6. They usually have > them right near the checkout:-) > > Regards, > Bryan Vandiver > San Jose, CA > 59 bugeye > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Finding fabulous fares is fun. > Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and > hotel bargains. > http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 > _______________________________________________ > wmgilroy at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jun 11 11:58:11 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:58:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OSH has Pozidrive bits References: <10349.65049.qm@web53810.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002801c7ac52$13c34ad0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > After seeing the debate on Pozidrive (posidrive) bits, > I'd like to share this with the local California > crowd. > OSH sells a '17 pc bit set' (W130OSH) that includes > 'pozidrive'(yep that's how they spell it) # 1,2,3 bits > in it. > It comes in a little green plastic box with the OSH > name on it, and is only about $5-6. They usually have > them right near the checkout:-) For some of the rest of us, you can go to www.harborfreight.com and search for pozi and find three solutions for less than $7 each, including a 7-in-1 screwdriver for $1.99 with PZ1 and PZ2. From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Jun 11 12:05:19 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 11:05:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] OSH has Pozidrive bits References: <10349.65049.qm@web53810.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000e01c7ac53$129387f0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Or you could skip the whole overblown bar bet debate thing and just use the same large Phillips screw driver that has sucessfully removed and replaced them a few hundred times. Glen From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jun 11 12:41:06 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:41:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OSH has Pozidrive bits References: <10349.65049.qm@web53810.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <000e01c7ac53$129387f0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <003201c7ac58$131ce9f0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Or you could skip the whole overblown bar bet debate thing and just use > the same large Phillips screw driver that has sucessfully removed and > replaced them a few hundred times. SHHHHH! Not so loud, Glen. Daniel might hear you and start the whole thing over again ;-) For some of us it seems to be important to feel a little guilty as we use the wrong tool. Not guilty enough to get the right tool, of course, just guilty enough not to let anyone watch us work on our car. Anon From John.Deikis at va.gov Mon Jun 11 13:06:33 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:06:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Can't argue this one, Saw Keith Turk on ESPN2 In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706101210m5bee1493yb46fcdfa89474421@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910706101210m5bee1493yb46fcdfa89474421@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I understand that above 150 MPH, the salt pulls all the moisture out of your face and promotes that "crusty Bonneville look". -----Original Message----- From: derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 3:10 PM To: Spridget Subject: [Spridgets] Can't argue this one, Saw Keith Turk on ESPN2 While dining at Buffalo Wild Wings and watching tennis, trivia, and whatever else I gazed at an HD monitor and saw none other than lister Keith Turk on the screen. I think they were running "Frankenstein" at Bonneville. He was wearing an orange hat. I think the camera added 10 years as he looked a whole lot younger when I met him. Still, nice to see a familiar face having fun with a car on national TV. From John.Deikis at va.gov Mon Jun 11 13:23:18 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:23:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] One of my other projects nearly complete...No LBC In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0706101222u76f2995dgca5de03d7ea21cb4@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0706101222u76f2995dgca5de03d7ea21cb4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Jim: Great looking scooter-- and close enough to being done that it starts being its own reward! Used to ride a '64 R60, but yours looks way better. Almost ready for the vintage display at the Wisconsin 'MOA rally in July. Look for me receiving barley therapy at the Airheads Central tent. -JohnD Some running German cars Some running British cars Some non-running German cars Some non-running British cars 1972 BMW 750/5 toaster, curry (good flavor with bellbottoms) 1998 Kawasaki KLR650 (ugly girl with a dirty mind) -----Original Message----- From: Jim Johnson [mailto:bmwwxman at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 3:23 PM To: Spridget List; Yahoo Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] One of my other projects nearly complete...No LBC For those who might appreciate it, one of my other passions is BMW motorcycles. Yesterday I finally got the 5 year restoration off the lift and rolled it outside for some pictures. If old BMW motorcycles (1964 R60/2) interest you, take a look at the whole story.... This one is only a hair away from concours. http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/flu/flu.html Cheers!! Jim -- 1964 R60/2 BMW 1968 MG Midget 1976 R90/6 BMW 1990 K100LT BMW Thomas Huxley - "It is not who is right, but what is right, that is of importance." From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Jun 11 13:26:50 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:26:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] OSH has Pozidrive bits References: <10349.65049.qm@web53810.mail.re2.yahoo.com><000e01c7ac53$129387f0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <003201c7ac58$131ce9f0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <000e01c7ac5e$75ec1d20$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> If it works, it works. I owned a VW Vannogon for 10 years and did all my own work on it. Every time you open a VW service manual you are instructed on what special VW tool will be required to do whatever. The only special VW tool I just couldn't fake was the 9mm allen socket for the CV joints. Then I learned a trick involving a syringe full of 90wt. and a dab of silicone that kept me from ever having to use that tool ever again. I'm also aware that 14mm and 9/16" aren't the same thing, but that doesn't stop me!! Glen >> Or you could skip the whole overblown bar bet debate thing and just use >> the same large Phillips screw driver that has sucessfully removed and >> replaced > them a few hundred times. > > SHHHHH! Not so loud, Glen. Daniel might hear you and start the whole thing > over again ;-) For some of us it seems to be important to feel a little > guilty as we use the wrong tool. Not guilty enough to get the right tool, > of > course, just guilty enough not to let anyone watch us work on our car. > Anon From John.Deikis at va.gov Mon Jun 11 13:29:04 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:29:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Untraceable sputter In-Reply-To: References: <466C8F26.2080104@comcast.net> Message-ID: I seem to remember a bit of a gearbox problem...wouldn't that count against "ran better"? JohnD 5 speeds 3 wheels 2 nuts -----Original Message----- From: Robert A. Valentine [mailto:robert at valentinephoto.net] Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 8:14 PM To: Frank Clarici Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Untraceable sputter I don't remember it sputtering. It kinda went like stink for us. At least it ran better than the "other" cars on the trip. (For those who don't remember... it was a junker rallye.) ;-) - Rob Valentine 74 Yellow Bugeye'd Midget On Jun 10, 2007, at 7:54 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > I am going nuts again trying to figure out WHAT is causing a sputter, > a major sputter or high rev miss. > 69 Midget (BABE rally car) 1275, stock with SUs. > It runs perfect and will wind up real nice with no problems unless you > stomp on it and tach it up over 5000 Rs between shifts. > Then is misses and bad. > I did find the loose rivet on the coil, I changed coils and thought > the > problem was solved. Nope. Changed the points, still there. > I retarded the timing cause it felt like it was over advancing with > the > vac advance. No cure. > It is not carbs becuase I tryed pulling the choke during the miss, it > does not change and it's only there if you floor it and wind it up. > Driving it like an old lady and it never misses a beat. > Carbs have oil. > I did not swap out dizzys yet, that's next. > > Larry, did you guys have this problem on the rally? > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > robert at valentinephoto.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From John.Deikis at va.gov Mon Jun 11 13:35:24 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:35:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] One of my other projects nearly complete...No LBC In-Reply-To: <057201c7abc2$be6cb970$0401a8c0@midget> References: <43840a7e0706101222u76f2995dgca5de03d7ea21cb4@mail.gmail.com><5f00d9910706101234s552a5716o9dda8e8dc55dfae3@mail.gmail.com> <057201c7abc2$be6cb970$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: A couple of years ago at the Vintage Motorcycle Days at MidOhio, a guy had a flathead Ford V-8 bike similar to this as well as one built around a flathead Lincoln V12. Headlamp was a take-off on the Lincoln Zephyr headlight nacelle. Very nice workmanship all around, but pretty warm once all that cast iron gets hot between the family jewels. JohnD -----Original Message----- From: David Lieb [mailto:dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com] Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 8:52 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] One of my other projects nearly complete...No LBC > I saw a "Boss Hoss" yesterday. It is basically a small block Chevy > V-8 with chrome and two wheels. Ahh, but that was the LITTLE Boss Hoss! Have you seen the one with 502CID and nitrous? I have seen one and wondered how the rider managed to straddle the bike as I couldn't see any signs of the side saddle. www.bosshoss.com I guess I am getting old, but I like the idea of Honest Charlie's Flathead Ford V8 motorcycles better... http://www.honestcharley.com/V860.htm David Lieb From trevorwj at insightbb.com Mon Jun 11 13:44:00 2007 From: trevorwj at insightbb.com (trevorwj at insightbb.com) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:44:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] OSH has Pozidrive bits In-Reply-To: <000e01c7ac53$129387f0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <10349.65049.qm@web53810.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <000e01c7ac53$129387f0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: I often use a large phillips instead of a Posidrive, but if the philllips slips or if the bolt looks crusty to start with, I break out the pozdrive bits and they do work better. Well worth the small amount of money they cost and they do not take up much space in my tool box. ----- Original Message ----- From: Glen Byrns Date: Monday, June 11, 2007 14:05 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OSH has Pozidrive bits To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Or you could skip the whole overblown bar bet debate thing and > just use the > same large Phillips screw driver that has sucessfully removed > and replaced > them a few hundred times. > > Glen From Daniel1312 at aol.com Mon Jun 11 14:56:25 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:56:25 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Cruel or dumb? no LBC Message-ID: The seller was probably richer, greedier and meaner than you or I or the listers - people like that exist and so yes I'd say he was cruel. I wouldn't say the kid was dumb but just a kid still and maybe he had more money than sense. Let's hope it all works out for him. Daniel1312 In a message dated 11/06/07 01:56:06 GMT Daylight Time, spritenut at comcast.net writes: > So I feel the seller was cruel to sell this thing to a 17 year old kid. > Sure the kid was dumb but he does have parents. Are they dumb too? > His dad doesn't know what a wrench is, nor does the kid for that matter. > Would you let your kid buy a 60 year old car that needs paint, > mechanicals, interior, all the glass, and a new harness? From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 11 15:06:32 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:06:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cruel or dumb? no LBC References: <466C9D75.2060903@comcast.net> Message-ID: <0a5201c7ac6c$63a8c9c0$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 7:55 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Cruel or dumb? no LBC A neighborhood kid, just 17 with his brand new drivers license stopped over today desperatly seeking help with his new car. I asked him what kind of car and he tells me a 1947 Desoto! It blew it's oil filter and it has electrical issues. So like the good "old man" I am, I stopped over the kids house, there sits a 47 Desoto that must have been sitting since 1965. What a mess, what a tank! And all the wires just crumble when you touch them. I asked the kid what he paid for it, he says with a confident smile "only $4,000". It looks like he paid 3900 too much. But he says it has new tires, yeah, brand new bias ply tires put on in 1976 when the last inspection of the car was. So I feel the seller was cruel to sell this thing to a 17 year old kid. Sure the kid was dumb but he does have parents. Are they dumb too? His dad doesn't know what a wrench is, nor does the kid for that matter. Would you let your kid buy a 60 year old car that needs paint, mechanicals, interior, all the glass, and a new harness? Besides, I don't know much about DeSotos, and I can't find a new harness for it in my crates of Spridget parts. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ ================================== I don't know about New Jersey, but, in some states, a 16 year old is not old enough to make a legal contract. I wonder if the parents could void the sale and make the seller take it back -- assuming they didn't OK it. LAD From thcollin at mtu.edu Mon Jun 11 15:17:21 2007 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:17:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tool debate Message-ID: <60313l$5cklj@email.mtu.edu> What's all this controversy over the correct tool to use for a job. Isn't the point of this hobby to accumulate new tools as you need them? If you don't have a Pdrive tool, you get a set - don't miss the opportunity to get a new tool. WST is my idol in this regard. He bought a farm with a race track and then he picks up a sheet metal shop full of tools. A little dust on the work bench is an excuse to purchase a 20 HP air compressor! (well, maybe that's a bit of a stretch) All this to support his hobby. What a guy! We could all learn from his example. Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 15:21:50 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:21:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tool debate In-Reply-To: <60313l$5cklj@email.mtu.edu> References: <60313l$5cklj@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0706111421g3d34f7eie0be9ee43d5701a9@mail.gmail.com> >>We could all learn from his example. Move to the woods and act surprised when rednecks sex up critters? On 6/11/07, Timothy H. Collins wrote: > > What's all this controversy over the correct tool to use for a job. > Isn't the point of this hobby to accumulate new tools as you need > them? If you don't have a Pdrive tool, you get a set - don't miss the > opportunity to get a new tool. > > WST is my idol in this regard. He bought a farm with a race track and > then he picks up a sheet metal shop full of tools. A little dust on > the work bench is an excuse to purchase a 20 HP air compressor! > (well, maybe that's a bit of a stretch) All this to support his > hobby. What a guy! We could all learn from his example. > > Tim Collins > 1966 AH Sprite > _______________________________________________ > thefirebuilds at gmail.com > -- > http://btdtracing.com > 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata > 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 > > "And what are we doing drinking Cow's milk anyway A cow's not our mother. > And did you notice people are starting to look more and more like Cow's > every year." - Ron Bennington From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jun 11 15:31:21 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:31:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cruel or dumb? no LBC References: <466C9D75.2060903@comcast.net> <0a5201c7ac6c$63a8c9c0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <005501c7ac6f$db91c7e0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Just maybe the kid fell in love with the lines of the DeSoto. It would be a unique ride and which of us has not been accused of stupidity for buying a Spridget or three? All the glass in a 1947 car should be flat, so it isn't impossible to replace. The wiring harness should not be too elaborate. It is not an impossible task, but the kid had better be motivated. He just needs to find the right "old man" who has a soft spot in his head for DeSotos ;-) Could make a nice resto-rod... From mconn2 at bright.net Mon Jun 11 16:00:55 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 18:00:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Morris 8 Message-ID: <000a01c7ac73$fccbce20$7934ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Paul, That's it: Morris 8! Now tell me I should have kept it (worth a lot of money, I hope not). Michael From millerls at ado13.com Mon Jun 11 16:06:08 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:06:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Morris 8 References: <000a01c7ac73$fccbce20$7934ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <007001c7ac74$b7202730$d280bc43@HP> I had one of those. Got some pics around here someplace. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Conn" To: "Paul Asgeirsson" Cc: "spridgets" Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 3:00 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Morris 8 From peter at nosimport.com Mon Jun 11 16:20:50 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:20:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Morris 8 In-Reply-To: <000a01c7ac73$fccbce20$7934ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> References: <000a01c7ac73$fccbce20$7934ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070611171928.0365b490@nosimport.com> I have a 1931 OHC Minor fabric saloon. see www.vintageminor.co.uk for pictures of good ones. Mine is "tatty". Peter C. == At 05:00 PM 6/11/2007, Michael Conn wrote: > Paul, > > That's it: Morris 8! Now tell me I should have kept it (worth a lot of >money, I hope not). > >Michael From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Mon Jun 11 16:40:17 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:40:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Morris 8 References: <000a01c7ac73$fccbce20$7934ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <007001c7ac74$b7202730$d280bc43@HP> Message-ID: <00a601c7ac79$7d3fc520$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Hi Larry, Is that what prompted you to get into modified cars? Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry & Sandi Miller" To: "Michael Conn" ; "Paul Asgeirsson" Cc: "spridgets" Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Morris 8 > I had one of those. Got some pics around here someplace. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Conn" > To: "Paul Asgeirsson" > Cc: "spridgets" > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 3:00 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Morris 8 From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jun 11 16:47:32 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:47:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC In-Reply-To: <05ed01c7ac1d$9cbf99e0$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <802378.75073.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks to all. I'm convinced of my answer. What I did last night (takes about 5 minutes) is to pull the dizzy gear from the block and rotate it as a temp fix. I believe in Flounder's "do it right" idea, as I do have a vernier cam gear and can rotate it in-situ rather easily. As far as Cheatin' Dog distributor, it's a 25D with a glop of JB weld in the vacuum hole and paper clip helping the low tension lead. Underneath reside points that have never floated nor failed. If you're gonna cheat, do it where it makes a difference ;-) --- David Lieb wrote: > > Options: > > Remove the drive dog pin from the dizzy shaft, > turn the drive dog 180 > > and reinstall the pin ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC From duncan at pondhop.com Mon Jun 11 17:35:38 2007 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 18:35:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC In-Reply-To: <802378.75073.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <05ed01c7ac1d$9cbf99e0$0401a8c0@midget> <802378.75073.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00f601c7ac81$37bc8990$a7359cb0$@com> << Thanks to all. I'm convinced of my answer.>> If the cam is 180 out then there is no real problem. 1) Remove dizzy gear. 2) Rotate crank through 360 which will realign crank and cam marks. 3) Reinsert dizzy gear as it should be No bodges here or swapping leads, all will line up as it should. Duncan From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 17:40:37 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:40:37 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC In-Reply-To: <00f601c7ac81$37bc8990$a7359cb0$@com> References: <05ed01c7ac1d$9cbf99e0$0401a8c0@midget> <802378.75073.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <00f601c7ac81$37bc8990$a7359cb0$@com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706111640x63322a7n2cdd791ae6f80937@mail.gmail.com> The cam can't be "180 out". It turns once for every two turns of the crank. If your index marks show the cam "180 out", then turn the crank over once and they'll be lined up. What you have to do is insert the dizzy drive spindle with the correct relation to the cam drive gear. And, how is what you did a temp fix? Didn't it re-align everything to where you wanted it? Cheers, Derf From duncan at pondhop.com Mon Jun 11 17:47:45 2007 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 18:47:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706111640x63322a7n2cdd791ae6f80937@mail.gmail.com> References: <05ed01c7ac1d$9cbf99e0$0401a8c0@midget> <802378.75073.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <00f601c7ac81$37bc8990$a7359cb0$@com> <5f00d9910706111640x63322a7n2cdd791ae6f80937@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00f701c7ac82$e92301e0$bb6905a0$@com> Yup that's exactly what I was saying Thanks Duncan -----Original Message----- From: derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 6:41 PM To: Duncan Sinclair Cc: Ron Soave; David Lieb; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC The cam can't be "180 out". It turns once for every two turns of the crank. If your index marks show the cam "180 out", then turn the crank over once and they'll be lined up. What you have to do is insert the dizzy drive spindle with the correct relation to the cam drive gear. And, how is what you did a temp fix? Didn't it re-align everything to where you wanted it? Cheers, Derf From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Jun 11 18:07:31 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 19:07:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tool debate In-Reply-To: <60313l$5cklj@email.mtu.edu> References: <60313l$5cklj@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <003701c7ac85$ad76a450$0863ecf0$@com> If "he who dies with the most toys wins...", I'm tryin' to make it "no contest" while at the same time adhering to "no budget". -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Timothy H. Collins Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 4:17 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Tool debate What's all this controversy over the correct tool to use for a job. Isn't the point of this hobby to accumulate new tools as you need them? If you don't have a Pdrive tool, you get a set - don't miss the opportunity to get a new tool. WST is my idol in this regard. He bought a farm with a race track and then he picks up a sheet metal shop full of tools. A little dust on the work bench is an excuse to purchase a 20 HP air compressor! (well, maybe that's a bit of a stretch) All this to support his hobby. What a guy! We could all learn from his example. Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jun 11 18:07:54 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:07:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706111640x63322a7n2cdd791ae6f80937@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <131846.75635.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- derf wrote: > And, how is what you did a temp fix? It's not per the book, that bothers me. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 18:12:00 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 18:12:00 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC In-Reply-To: <131846.75635.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <5f00d9910706111640x63322a7n2cdd791ae6f80937@mail.gmail.com> <131846.75635.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706111712x5f7eae1ei1467eaae2ff7fb0a@mail.gmail.com> That book that Daniel S. wrote? Just kidding. Don't start..... My finger is poised above the delete key. You should be able to make it per the book by doing what you did and re-inserting the dizzy drive shaft, no? > > It's not per the book, that bothers me. From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jun 11 18:17:42 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:17:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706111712x5f7eae1ei1467eaae2ff7fb0a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <262222.21516.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- derf wrote: > That book that Daniel S. wrote? Just kidding. > Don't start..... My > finger is poised above the delete key. > You should be able to make it per the book by doing > what you did and > re-inserting the dizzy drive shaft, no? At TDC on #1, the drive gear will be upside down. The ignition timing will be spot-on, the cam timing (as we've bludgeoned here) will be spot on, but I know that if I really want to get irritated, I can pull the distributor and see the drive gear upside down at TDC. Conversely, if I pull the timing cover, instead of the dots being 12 o'clock to 6 o'clock, they will be at 12 o'clock to 12 o'clock, or something like that. I have to go verify the camber on the front end now with the Smart Camber gauge. Stay tuned for the next catastrophe. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Mon Jun 11 18:35:48 2007 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 20:35:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Chevy Question - No LBC Message-ID: <29502190.1181608549056.JavaMail.root@wmvirt9> Anybody familar with replacing spark plugs on a Cavalier 2.2L (2003) with the wires in a tube on top of the plugs? Does the tube thingy just unbolt and pull straight off? Anything to watch out for? I hate technology! TIA, Kent 1960 Bugeye 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 18:47:07 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 18:47:07 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC In-Reply-To: <262222.21516.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <5f00d9910706111712x5f7eae1ei1467eaae2ff7fb0a@mail.gmail.com> <262222.21516.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706111747p2b278oeb089c22db82514f@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Let the bludgeoning continue. No, if you pull the timing cover the cam index marks will be where they are supposed to be. The drive gear is independent of the cam. If it isn't indexed where you want it, pull it, turn it some and re-insert it until it falls where you want it. I'll bet you a giant dipped cone that your cam index marks are properly lined up. Think of it like a small block Ford or Chevy. On those, the dizzy gear is on the dizzy shaft. On the A-series, the dizzy has the dog and there is an intermediate shaft with gears on one end and a dog interface on the other. On the Ford and Chevy small blocks you stick the dizzy and see where the rotor goes. If you don't like where the rotor is, you pull, turn and re-stick. The only difference in the processes is the A-series has a two-piece drive shaft setup, dizzy shaft and dizzy drive shaft. If your dog drive interface seems upside down to you, pull it and rotate it. It takes less time to do than reading this post. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 18:50:32 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 18:50:32 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706111747p2b278oeb089c22db82514f@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910706111712x5f7eae1ei1467eaae2ff7fb0a@mail.gmail.com> <262222.21516.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5f00d9910706111747p2b278oeb089c22db82514f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706111750l172122achc88a80a62177d8dc@mail.gmail.com> BTW, the timing marks should be close to each other, in line with an imaginary line drawn through the CLs of the cam and crank. From MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com Mon Jun 11 19:06:13 2007 From: MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com (MICHAEL CARPENTER) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 21:06:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tool debate References: <60313l$5cklj@email.mtu.edu> <003701c7ac85$ad76a450$0863ecf0$@com> Message-ID: <002c01c7ac8d$df233060$bff6f904@D1PWFG61> That WST fellow has some extremely neat original Bugeyes to go with all of the other goodies ;^). I still look at the pictures of the white Bugeye when you were bringing it home. MC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: "'Timothy H. Collins'" ; Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tool debate > If "he who dies with the most toys wins...", I'm tryin' to make it "no > contest" while at the same time adhering to "no budget". > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Timothy H. Collins > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 4:17 PM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Tool debate > > What's all this controversy over the correct tool to use for a job. > Isn't the point of this hobby to accumulate new tools as you need > them? If you don't have a Pdrive tool, you get a set - don't miss the > opportunity to get a new tool. > > WST is my idol in this regard. He bought a farm with a race track and > then he picks up a sheet metal shop full of tools. A little dust on > the work bench is an excuse to purchase a 20 HP air compressor! > (well, maybe that's a bit of a stretch) All this to support his > hobby. What a guy! We could all learn from his example. > > Tim Collins > 1966 AH Sprite > _______________________________________________ > mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jun 11 19:15:02 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 20:15:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC References: <262222.21516.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <062201c7ac8f$1b35a5f0$0401a8c0@midget> > At TDC on #1, the drive gear will be upside down. The > ignition timing will be spot-on, the cam timing (as > we've bludgeoned here) will be spot on, but I know > that if I really want to get irritated, I can pull the > distributor and see the drive gear upside down at TDC. > Conversely, if I pull the timing cover, instead of the > dots being 12 o'clock to 6 o'clock, they will be at 12 > o'clock to 12 o'clock, or something like that. Ron, As I said in a previous email, all you have to do is to remove the points plate, disconnect the advance springs, lift out the points cam shaft, rotate it 180*, reinsert it, re-assemble and you can have everything "according to the book". If you pick up half a dozen non-virgin distributors and check, half of them will be 180-out compared to the other half. Sorta like looking at MGB front turn signals at a car show ;-) From duncan at pondhop.com Mon Jun 11 19:20:18 2007 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 20:20:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC In-Reply-To: <262222.21516.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <5f00d9910706111712x5f7eae1ei1467eaae2ff7fb0a@mail.gmail.com> <262222.21516.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000001c7ac8f$d715cf20$85416d60$@com> As derf says :) The fact that you have No1 at TDC proves the marks must be aligned. If they were off the valves would be in the wrong position. If the marks were at 12-12 rather than 12-6 then NO4 would be at TDC (and the dizzy dog upside down) Duncan -----Original Message----- From: Ron Soave [mailto:soavero at yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 7:18 PM To: derf Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC --- derf wrote: > That book that Daniel S. wrote? Just kidding. > Don't start..... My > finger is poised above the delete key. > You should be able to make it per the book by doing > what you did and > re-inserting the dizzy drive shaft, no? At TDC on #1, the drive gear will be upside down. The ignition timing will be spot-on, the cam timing (as we've bludgeoned here) will be spot on, but I know that if I really want to get irritated, I can pull the distributor and see the drive gear upside down at TDC. Conversely, if I pull the timing cover, instead of the dots being 12 o'clock to 6 o'clock, they will be at 12 o'clock to 12 o'clock, or something like that. I have to go verify the camber on the front end now with the Smart Camber gauge. Stay tuned for the next catastrophe. ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ _______________________________________________ duncan at pondhop.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jun 11 19:36:30 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 21:36:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC In-Reply-To: <131846.75635.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <131846.75635.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <466DF89E.6010903@comcast.net> Ron Soave wrote: > It's not per the book, that bothers me. Neither are any of mine. And I'll be dipped if I can see a "larger or small" 1/2 on those dizzy drives. My motto is put it in, try to fire up the engine, and then turn the drive 180. If you have a 50/50 shot at getting it correct the first time why is it always wrong 99% of the time? It's like modern electric cords with the nipple on them. How often do you try to plug it in the wrong way? And WTF came up with that on the cords? He needs to be hung with an electric cord. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Jun 11 19:44:05 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 20:44:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tool debate In-Reply-To: <002c01c7ac8d$df233060$bff6f904@D1PWFG61> References: <60313l$5cklj@email.mtu.edu> <003701c7ac85$ad76a450$0863ecf0$@com> <002c01c7ac8d$df233060$bff6f904@D1PWFG61> Message-ID: <001201c7ac93$2b485880$81d90980$@com> http://www.ourdreamfarm.com/TheBossvisits.htm When Maynard Ferguson visited The Dream Farm and the Thicko International headquarters. -----Original Message----- From: MICHAEL CARPENTER [mailto:MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 8:06 PM To: Wm. Severin Thompson; 'Timothy H. Collins'; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tool debate That WST fellow has some extremely neat original Bugeyes to go with all of the other goodies ;^). I still look at the pictures of the white Bugeye when you were bringing it home. MC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: "'Timothy H. Collins'" ; Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tool debate > If "he who dies with the most toys wins...", I'm tryin' to make it "no > contest" while at the same time adhering to "no budget". > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Timothy H. Collins > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 4:17 PM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Tool debate > > What's all this controversy over the correct tool to use for a job. > Isn't the point of this hobby to accumulate new tools as you need > them? If you don't have a Pdrive tool, you get a set - don't miss the > opportunity to get a new tool. > > WST is my idol in this regard. He bought a farm with a race track and > then he picks up a sheet metal shop full of tools. A little dust on > the work bench is an excuse to purchase a 20 HP air compressor! > (well, maybe that's a bit of a stretch) All this to support his > hobby. What a guy! We could all learn from his example. > > Tim Collins > 1966 AH Sprite > _______________________________________________ > mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pythias2 at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 19:46:58 2007 From: pythias2 at gmail.com ( ) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 18:46:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Test from Google WEB Message-ID: <1da499e50706111846p10d3af1dj438ead5f55f35da5@mail.gmail.com> testing again From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jun 11 19:48:42 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 21:48:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Cracked dash repair Message-ID: <466DFB7A.8060808@comcast.net> 68 and newer Spridgets. I think I fixed a severely cracked dash tonight. A little fiberglasd reinforced bondo (gorilla hair) and I filled the crack with it, sanded it down with 180 grit, gave it another coat of spot putty, sanded that with 320 grit and painted it with some vinyl paint (interior in a can). As I did sand off the vinyl grain, when I painted it, I hit the spot with a 3rd coat but made it pretty heavy. Let it set up a little and dabbed it with a towel to put the grain back in the vinyl. I figured I could always get a dash cap if I screwed it up. I can see it if I look close but I know where it is. I think it came out quite acceptable for 1/2 of time and a little paint. I hope the fiberglass bondo holds the vinyl crack together over time, if not I'll have to get a cap which I was planning on anyway. Time will tell. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jun 11 19:50:02 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 20:50:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cruel or dumb? no LBC References: <466C9D75.2060903@comcast.net> <0a5201c7ac6c$63a8c9c0$6401a8c0@Larry> <005501c7ac6f$db91c7e0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <466DF9FA.1000108@comcast.net> Message-ID: <066001c7ac93$fea589a0$0401a8c0@midget> >> Just maybe the kid fell in love with the lines of the DeSoto. It would be >> a unique ride and which of us has not been accused of stupidity for >> buying a Spridget or three? > > I agree 100% but he bought a $400 car not a $4000 car. > It is pretty much an original car that needs everything. > And he has no car smarts. I did direct him to another old fart who works > on 30s and 40s american iron. I just don't know anything about a DeSoto to > help him out where the other guy probably has parts in his garage. > We will get him going and I will be happy to do what I can. And I hope the > kid fixes it up because it IS a unique ride. He can drive over the other > rice rides in the hood and never even know he ran them over. ;) That's the ticket! I just hope he didn't blow up the engine with the oil filter fiasco. Ya allus seem to regret something stupid that happened to the car soon after ya got it... It prolly was a $400 car, but sometimes more committment follows wasting too much money on a car. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jun 11 19:56:10 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 18:56:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Cruel or dumb? no LBC In-Reply-To: <005501c7ac6f$db91c7e0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: > maybe the kid fell in love with the lines of the DeSoto It's just a Chrysler flathead six. How bad could it be? The question is...does it have fluid drive? From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 19:59:09 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 20:59:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cruel or dumb? no LBC In-Reply-To: References: <005501c7ac6f$db91c7e0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0706111859j446431afj2e01d56d6641a124@mail.gmail.com> I once heard about this crazy old Italian guy in Jersey that fixed cars with weeds growing through the floor boards. I hear he did this all without the aid of Chinese tools! haha urban legends. On 6/11/07, Billy Zoom wrote: > > > maybe the kid fell in love with the lines of the DeSoto > It's just a Chrysler flathead six. How bad could it be? > The question is...does it have fluid drive? > _______________________________________________ > thefirebuilds at gmail.com > > > -- > http://btdtracing.com > 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata > 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 > > "And what are we doing drinking Cow's milk anyway A cow's not our mother. > And did you notice people are starting to look more and more like Cow's > every year." - Ron Bennington From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jun 11 20:10:10 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 19:10:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC In-Reply-To: <466DF89E.6010903@comcast.net> Message-ID: <810637.78951.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Frank Clarici wrote: > Neither are any of mine. And I'll be dipped if I can > see a "larger or > small" 1/2 on those dizzy drives. I talked to the shop today - they said they struggled with it, they weren't confident it was right. I must have repeated their mistake last night. Eric Jones also confirmed that depending on the manual, the directions are different. How come I've never had it wrong before? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jun 11 20:09:42 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 22:09:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Cruel or dumb? no LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <466E0066.2070203@comcast.net> Billy Zoom wrote: >>maybe the kid fell in love with the lines of the DeSoto > > It's just a Chrysler flathead six. How bad could it be? > The question is...does it have fluid drive? I also know he needs a bushing for the shift linkage, he has it zip tied for now. And a clutch pedal. I think it's a 3 on the tree. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 11 20:13:56 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 21:13:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tool debate References: <60313l$5cklj@email.mtu.edu> <003701c7ac85$ad76a450$0863ecf0$@com><002c01c7ac8d$df233060$bff6f904@D1PWFG61> <001201c7ac93$2b485880$81d90980$@com> Message-ID: <0af301c7ac97$55cf32f0$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: "'MICHAEL CARPENTER'" ; "'Timothy H.Collins'" ; Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tool debate http://www.ourdreamfarm.com/TheBossvisits.htm When Maynard Ferguson visited The Dream Farm and the Thicko International headquarters. ====================================== I remember that day... Maynard seemed to be a genuinely nice guy. Not like the overly self-absorbed, pretentious jerk you expect when somebody hits the level of fame he had. Pretty cool guy. Oh, yeah, that "chick" about a dozen pictures down... she kicked ass on all of those guys on the go-karts. Granted, they weren't very good and she would play hell trying to keep up with guys like WST and Soave, but she was impressive. LAD From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jun 11 20:23:45 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 19:23:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Cruel or dumb? no LBC In-Reply-To: <466E0066.2070203@comcast.net> Message-ID: > bushing for the shift linkage, Gosh, I hope it's easier to get than for a '66 Ford. That took months. The 3-speed often had the Fluid Drive option, so you had a clutch...and a torque converter. It's a little unusual, but it works well. Those engines are bullet proof. A Chrysler crank would drop in and give it an extra 1/4" stroke. BZ From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jun 11 20:25:03 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 19:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Tool debate In-Reply-To: <0af301c7ac97$55cf32f0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <383807.3260.qm@web30515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Larry Daniels wrote: > would play hell trying to keep up with guys like WST > and Soave, but she was > impressive. IIRC, you (an ex FF driver for those who don't know) were the ownner of fastest lap time at the Flounder 500 in 2005. Granted, you weren't being pelted by snowballs on the straights like I was, but still. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 20:29:35 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 21:29:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC In-Reply-To: <810637.78951.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <466DF89E.6010903@comcast.net> <810637.78951.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0706111929o672b72a5yf9e96a8963b37374@mail.gmail.com> On 6/11/07, Ron Soave wrote: > > How come I've never had it wrong before? 'Cause yer a lucky SOB... ;-) Now go win the friggin' race!! Cheers!! Jim From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jun 11 20:31:42 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 22:31:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC In-Reply-To: <810637.78951.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <810637.78951.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <466E058E.4000403@comcast.net> Ron Soave wrote: > > How come I've never had it wrong before? How come I never had it right before? Let's trade manuals! -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From mconn2 at bright.net Mon Jun 11 20:32:35 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 22:32:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Morris 8 References: <000a01c7ac73$fccbce20$7934ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <007001c7ac74$b7202730$d280bc43@HP> Message-ID: <000601c7ac99$f076f4d0$3c34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Larry, If you find them, could you send me copies of two or three, please? Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry & Sandi Miller" To: "Michael Conn" ; "Paul Asgeirsson" Cc: "spridgets" Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Morris 8 >I had one of those. Got some pics around here someplace. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Conn" > To: "Paul Asgeirsson" > Cc: "spridgets" > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 3:00 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Morris 8 From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jun 11 20:35:20 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 19:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Cruel or dumb? no LBC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <476451.75061.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > spritenut at comcast.net > writes: > Would you let your kid buy a 60 year old car that > needs paint, > > mechanicals, interior, all the glass, and a new > harness? LET him? Hell, I'm encouraging it. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Mon Jun 11 20:44:54 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 19:44:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC References: <262222.21516.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00ff01c7ac9b$a9b3f500$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Be sure and check out the rear wheel/dif. caster too, as long as you've got the smart gauge out. Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "derf" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC > I have to go verify the camber on the front end now > with the Smart Camber gauge. Stay tuned for the next > catastrophe. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 11 20:52:29 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 21:52:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC References: <262222.21516.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <00ff01c7ac9b$a9b3f500$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <0b1401c7ac9c$b7f48700$6401a8c0@Larry> Oh, Pa, you devil, I thought you were just kidding, I didn't think you would really start that. Beware, everybody, the sh_t is ready to hit the fan. OK, Cap'n Derf, why would more castor on a live rear axle help or hurt? Ed P.S. This is all your fault, Pa. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Asgeirsson" To: "Ron Soave" ; "derf" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC Be sure and check out the rear wheel/dif. caster too, as long as you've got the smart gauge out. Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "derf" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC > I have to go verify the camber on the front end now > with the Smart Camber gauge. Stay tuned for the next > catastrophe. _______________________________________________ ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jun 11 20:52:44 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 19:52:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC In-Reply-To: <00ff01c7ac9b$a9b3f500$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <875768.11998.qm@web30515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Paul Asgeirsson wrote: > Be sure and check out the rear wheel/dif. caster > too, as long as you've got > the smart gauge out. I refuse to cut and weld at this point ;^) I just vacuumed the engine bay, it's almost time to call it ready. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php From mconn2 at bright.net Mon Jun 11 20:53:37 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 22:53:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] AN5 Message-ID: <009701c7ac9c$e067c080$3c34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> I received my copy of Horler's "Original Sprite & Midget" today. Great reading. I've got another book on the way too. From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 20:53:45 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 20:53:45 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cruel or dumb? no LBC In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0706111859j446431afj2e01d56d6641a124@mail.gmail.com> References: <005501c7ac6f$db91c7e0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <8a336b9d0706111859j446431afj2e01d56d6641a124@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706111953q3855d63fu270501324038a4db@mail.gmail.com> No, it was a Chinese guy who loved Italian food. On 6/11/07, Flash. wrote: > I once heard about this crazy old Italian guy in Jersey that fixed cars with > weeds growing through the floor boards. I hear he did this all without the > aid of Chinese tools! > > haha urban legends. From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jun 11 20:54:41 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 22:54:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Cruel or dumb? no LBC In-Reply-To: <476451.75061.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <476451.75061.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <466E0AF1.8090203@comcast.net> Ron Soave wrote: >>Would you let your kid buy a 60 year old car that >>needs paint, >> >>>mechanicals, interior, all the glass, and a new >> >>harness? > > > LET him? Hell, I'm encouraging it. But $4000.00 for a POS? I encouraged my kid to buy his first Mini, but it was $400. That DeSoto has 1 too many zeros on the end. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 21:03:47 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 21:03:47 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC In-Reply-To: <0b1401c7ac9c$b7f48700$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <262222.21516.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <00ff01c7ac9b$a9b3f500$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <0b1401c7ac9c$b7f48700$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706112003g3794a9cau114e2914a6fa2f89@mail.gmail.com> Like Castor oil? More would help if you are trying to shove it up an orifice. I don't think rear caster (castor) is really an issue on Spridgets. Come to think of it, I don't think front caster is an issue on Spridgets. When you get into struts and such then caster is important. Well, it seems people with "daniel" in their email addys are ganging up on me. And Bob is the Cap'n, unless I'm out on my Whaler, when I guess I am the captain for a time. ARRRRRRRGH, shiver me timbers. On 6/11/07, Larry Daniels wrote: > Oh, Pa, you devil, I thought you were just kidding, I didn't think you > would really start that. > > Beware, everybody, the sh_t is ready to hit the fan. > > OK, Cap'n Derf, why would more castor on a live rear axle help or hurt? > > Ed > > P.S. This is all your fault, Pa. From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 21:04:53 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 21:04:53 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re[2]: Help - lots of long LBC In-Reply-To: <137043785.20070611182758@gmail.com> References: <718545.93511.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5f00d9910706102311u1f31c5f9k106e84944fba0a0c@mail.gmail.com> <137043785.20070611182758@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706112004x2ed9383hc9d25a8c55ab5704@mail.gmail.com> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Bill Date: Jun 11, 2007 7:27 PM Subject: Re[2]: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC To: derf Hello derf, according to "the book"... when seen from above (the distributor)the small offset of the driving dog must in in the right and the driving slot for the rotor arm must be in the six o'clock postion... otherwise remove the plates and weights and reverse turn the shaft 180 degrees. (hey if this doesn't post to "the list" please forward it.. i'm having all sorts of trouble getting things ONTO the list, even using THREE different email accounts....???!!!!!!!?????? -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias2 at gmail.com From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 21:25:13 2007 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 22:25:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake bleeder valve Message-ID: <8de85a9c0706112025m2332e9b3rd0cf8ea2c1dec03b@mail.gmail.com> OK, does anyone here know the exact phase the moon needs to be in to properly install a new rear brake cylinder C-clip and then be able to also install the bleeder valve? I'm guessing there's a trick here ... or the parts that VB is supplying are just slightly larger than what I took off - of course those c-clips cracked under the force of removal and I can't find the pieces to compare to the new. No matter what I've tried so far the C-clip is ever so slightly in the way of the bleeder valve such that I can't screw it in to the brake cylinder. I've tried rotating the clip around so the open end of the clip is in the area of the bleeder valve but there doesn't seem to be enough clearance between the shank of the brake cylinder and the flange of the axle. The only thing I can think is to ever so slightly grind off a small section of the outside of the C-clip to give clearance. Does any of my rambling make sense? Any suggestions? Ugh, I need sleep, or a stiff drink ... maybe both. From geowiz.sgy at cox.net Mon Jun 11 21:39:52 2007 From: geowiz.sgy at cox.net (James Pickard) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 22:39:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Stretching a top and toneau Message-ID: I have an old toneau cover and a brand new top. For some reason, both fit very tight (actually, they barely fit at all). Any tips for getting them to stretch a bit? I've tried putting them out in the direct sunlight on a 90+ degree day and it didn't seem to help. Jim Pickard B9473298 ('65 Tiger) AN5L/12109 ('59 Sprite) 2003 Mini Cooper Lafayette, LA From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 11 21:49:46 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 22:49:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC References: <262222.21516.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com><00ff01c7ac9b$a9b3f500$f675fea9@p0k7l8><0b1401c7ac9c$b7f48700$6401a8c0@Larry> <5f00d9910706112003g3794a9cau114e2914a6fa2f89@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0b3e01c7aca4$b91343d0$6401a8c0@Larry> Of my many books on suspension development for race cars, Performance Handling; How to Make Your Car Handle by Don Alexander and How to Make Your Car Handle by Fred Puhn, Alexander spells it "castor" and Puhn spells it "caster". You are free to tell either of these experts that they don't know what they are talking about. I'm not that much of an expert. My edition of Webster says that "castor" is the same as "caster". He probably doesn't know what he is talking about either. LAD P.S. In his book, Advanced Race Car Suspension Development, Steve Smith spells it "caster", yet Alain Prost, the ex Formula One Champion of the World, in his book, Competition Driving, calls it "castor". Others, including Paul Frere, Bob Bondurant and Jim Pagel (a guy I raced against very successfully for years) don't help because they can't decide, either. This is all so confusing. Perhaps, you can tell me which of these guys doesn't know what he (they) is (are) talking about and which does. Thanks in advance for your help. ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC Like Castor oil? More would help if you are trying to shove it up an orifice. I don't think rear caster (castor) is really an issue on Spridgets. Come to think of it, I don't think front caster is an issue on Spridgets. When you get into struts and such then caster is important. Well, it seems people with "daniel" in their email addys are ganging up on me. And Bob is the Cap'n, unless I'm out on my Whaler, when I guess I am the captain for a time. ARRRRRRRGH, shiver me timbers. On 6/11/07, Larry Daniels wrote: > Oh, Pa, you devil, I thought you were just kidding, I didn't think you > would really start that. > > Beware, everybody, the sh_t is ready to hit the fan. > > OK, Cap'n Derf, why would more castor on a live rear axle help or hurt? > > Ed > > P.S. This is all your fault, Pa. _______________________________________________ ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 22:03:46 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 22:03:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC In-Reply-To: <0b3e01c7aca4$b91343d0$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <262222.21516.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <00ff01c7ac9b$a9b3f500$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <0b1401c7ac9c$b7f48700$6401a8c0@Larry> <5f00d9910706112003g3794a9cau114e2914a6fa2f89@mail.gmail.com> <0b3e01c7aca4$b91343d0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706112103i56d6392em9f46a9e8845bb9ca@mail.gmail.com> I think you have to choose your favorite spelling or is it your favourite spelling? Castor oil is definitely castOr. I think suspension can be castEr or castOr. But wait, two experts wrote books and each spelled the word differently. I dunno, maybe they should flame each other on an email message list. One of them might use a Phillips driver on...........oh, nevermind. I am certain anyone who has written a book is correct, though. Have you ever seen one of those horrible Corvairs? Good thing that guy wrote that book. Otherwise we'd all be dead now. Because of him the world is a better place. We should maybe vote for him next time he runs for some office. Cheers, Derf From froggi60 at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 22:30:02 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 21:30:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Cruel or dumb? no LBC In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0706111859j446431afj2e01d56d6641a124@mail.gmail.com> References: <005501c7ac6f$db91c7e0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <8a336b9d0706111859j446431afj2e01d56d6641a124@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10706112130g11d6c0die6a78ceda5f9f085@mail.gmail.com> I've heard of that crazy SOB all the way out here in Oregon! On 6/11/07, Flash. wrote: > I once heard about this crazy old Italian guy in Jersey that fixed cars with > weeds growing through the floor boards. I hear he did this all without the > aid of Chinese tools! > > haha urban legends. > > > On 6/11/07, Billy Zoom wrote: > > > > > maybe the kid fell in love with the lines of the DeSoto > > It's just a Chrysler flathead six. How bad could it be? > > The question is...does it have fluid drive? > > _______________________________________________ > > thefirebuilds at gmail.com > > > > > > -- > > http://btdtracing.com > > 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata > > 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 > > > > "And what are we doing drinking Cow's milk anyway A cow's not our mother. > > And did you notice people are starting to look more and more like Cow's > > every year." - Ron Bennington > _______________________________________________ > froggi60 at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Mon Jun 11 22:49:59 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 21:49:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC References: <131846.75635.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <466DF89E.6010903@comcast.net> Message-ID: <019601c7acad$232cb280$f675fea9@p0k7l8> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" > And WTF came up with that on the > cords? He needs to be hung with an electric cord. Some guy in China? Pa From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon Jun 11 22:49:00 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 21:49:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] I wanna count his fingers!!!!! Message-ID: <381-2200762124490459@earthlink.net> Hey, I just saw the 50th site (http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/mg/50years.html) with a photo and a caption that read, Frank indicating that Buster is #1 in his book! Right now, I wanna count the fingers Frank is exposing on his right hand!!!! Buster Frank indicating that Buster is #1 in his book! Buster Evans b-evans at earthlink.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of DSCF0250.JPG] From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 23:18:40 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 00:18:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706112103i56d6392em9f46a9e8845bb9ca@mail.gmail.com> References: <262222.21516.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <00ff01c7ac9b$a9b3f500$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <0b1401c7ac9c$b7f48700$6401a8c0@Larry> <5f00d9910706112003g3794a9cau114e2914a6fa2f89@mail.gmail.com> <0b3e01c7aca4$b91343d0$6401a8c0@Larry> <5f00d9910706112103i56d6392em9f46a9e8845bb9ca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0706112218s210072f3qdeb937dc2bbd430a@mail.gmail.com> I vote we make it easy and henceforth call it Rotsac.... Rot - Sack Cool word! Sounds like some kinda Visigoth warrior!! Cheers! Jim On 6/11/07, derf wrote: > I think you have to choose your favorite spelling or is it your > favourite spelling? > Castor oil is definitely castOr. I think suspension can be castEr or castOr. > > But wait, two experts wrote books and each spelled the word > differently. I dunno, maybe they should flame each other on an email > message list. One of them might use a Phillips driver > on...........oh, nevermind. > > I am certain anyone who has written a book is correct, though. Have > you ever seen one of those horrible Corvairs? Good thing that guy > wrote that book. Otherwise we'd all be dead now. Because of him the > world is a better place. We should maybe vote for him next time he > runs for some office. > Cheers, > Derf > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- 1964 R60/2 BMW 1968 MG Midget 1976 R90/6 BMW 1990 K100LT BMW Thomas Huxley - "It is not who is right, but what is right, that is of importance." From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 23:20:43 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 00:20:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I wanna count his fingers!!!!! In-Reply-To: <381-2200762124490459@earthlink.net> References: <381-2200762124490459@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0706112220y75b1a991w7437ac3a0aa84fc9@mail.gmail.com> He is exposing only one. Would you like to know which one it is? [:-) Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City On 6/11/07, Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > Hey, I just saw the 50th site (http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/mg/50years.html) with a photo and a caption that read, > Frank indicating that Buster is #1 in his book! > Right now, I wanna count the fingers Frank is exposing on his right hand!!!! > > Buster > > > Frank indicating that Buster is #1 in his book! > > Buster Evans > b-evans at earthlink.net > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of DSCF0250.JPG] > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- 1964 R60/2 BMW 1968 MG Midget 1976 R90/6 BMW 1990 K100LT BMW Thomas Huxley - "It is not who is right, but what is right, that is of importance." From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon Jun 11 23:24:14 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 22:24:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] I wanna count his fingers!!!!! Message-ID: <380-22007621252414783@earthlink.net> > Jim Johnson wrote: "He is exposing only one. Would you like to know which one it is? [:-)" No, you don't need to! I know him!!! And to think, I gave him my last piece of Cadbury's Dairy Milk. The ingrate! Buste From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 23:37:26 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 00:37:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Human compassion - No LBC Message-ID: <43840a7e0706112237g7fc935b2w5c98df49ddac6a38@mail.gmail.com> For those that may care about the suffering of others - here is a before and after ariel image of the town of Greensburg, Kansas - 35 miles east of me. You may recall that a mile wide tornado nailed the entire town May 4th, 2007. There is still considerable doubt that the town and county will survive as an entity.... Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City Not much left! [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of gbefore.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of gafter.jpg] From kevin at valentinephoto.net Mon Jun 11 23:40:16 2007 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 01:40:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake bleeder valve In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0706112025m2332e9b3rd0cf8ea2c1dec03b@mail.gmail.com> References: <8de85a9c0706112025m2332e9b3rd0cf8ea2c1dec03b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: My guess would be the C clips you are trying to use are actually E clips (supplied with almost all the new rear wheel cylinders from Mo$ $ and VB). They are next to impossible to put on. With all the brake hardware off the car, removing the 4 bolts that hold the rear backing plate on the axle will allow you to rotate the backing plate to install the clips in a more user friendly position. Then rotate the backing plate back to it's correct position and reinstall the 4 bolts. This makes the job much easier. The other option is to go to your local hardware store and buy some real C clips, like the clips originally furnished on the car. They are much easier to install. Kevin V. On Jun 11, 2007, at 11:25 PM, Jethro wrote: > OK, does anyone here know the exact phase the moon needs to be in to > properly install a new rear brake cylinder C-clip and then be able to > also install the bleeder valve? > > I'm guessing there's a trick here ... or the parts that VB is > supplying are just slightly larger than what I took off - of course > those c-clips cracked under the force of removal and I can't find the > pieces to compare to the new. > > No matter what I've tried so far the C-clip is ever so slightly in the > way of the bleeder valve such that I can't screw it in to the brake > cylinder. > > I've tried rotating the clip around so the open end of the clip is in > the area of the bleeder valve but there doesn't seem to be enough > clearance between the shank of the brake cylinder and the flange of > the axle. > > The only thing I can think is to ever so slightly grind off a small > section of the outside of the C-clip to give clearance. > > Does any of my rambling make sense? > > Any suggestions? > > Ugh, I need sleep, or a stiff drink ... maybe both. > _______________________________________________ > kevin at valentinephoto.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mikey at b2systems.com Mon Jun 11 23:56:25 2007 From: mikey at b2systems.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 22:56:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Any listers in S.CA near Santa Paula? In-Reply-To: <008801c7abd0$65427570$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> References: <008801c7abd0$65427570$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070611224609.04ae1f88@b2systems.com> At 07:29 PM 6/10/2007, you wrote: >I'm looking at a car in Santa Paula, looking to see if any listers are able to >go put an eye to it possibly. I am 52 miles away according to Yahoo maps and about 40 miles of that are wonderfully twisty. But I have not owned a Spridget since they were new so not sure how much help I could be. If no one else pops up, l can get there this weekend I think, maybe earlier after work but I doubt it. mike ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mike Rambour Bug Writer err...Programmer mikey at b2systems.com ******************************************************************************* http://www.dinospider.com/ all about the ULTIMATE ALMOST a Ferrari http://www.singercars.com/ all about the ULTIMATE BRITISH sports car ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From hal at katemuir.com Tue Jun 12 00:46:14 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 23:46:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC In-Reply-To: <810637.78951.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ron wrote: "How come I've never had it wrong before? " "'cuz Frank has been getting it wrong 99% of the time: you have just been balancing him out by getting it right 99% of the time! Hal ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html _______________________________________________ hal at katemuir.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jun 12 01:45:43 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 00:45:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Root cause found - timing issue Message-ID: <462583.57238.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> It was, in fact, the dizzy gear out 180. When I checked last night, it was not at TDC, #4 was at TDC so the dizzy gear was right side up. Tonight after a good hour and half sleep, I checked it again, and the drive was off 180. I marked the large side per Flounder's good suggestion. What's good about this is it made me think about stuff I haven't in detail in a while. When I install cams and timing gear, I degree it properly with dials and the like - the process blocked the concept a little. Thanks for the replies, even those that were in triplicate, quadruplicate, and derflicate. Bonus question - why do the SCCA guys use bronze distributor gears> Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jun 12 04:19:09 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 06:19:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Non LBC, Green(sorta) VW content, Hit delete all who enter here. In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706110744m4c66534ak68033b1466fb841d@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910706101914i6ce2421ep62021764e32e5fe7@mail.gmail.com> <205cef430706110323h4f1364aanc079855fdaa9a830@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910706110744m4c66534ak68033b1466fb841d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430706120319w5f4c925escb0b1a2ff8dd25cd@mail.gmail.com> Thanks Derf, I have seen it before and love it. Like I did before I bought my Sprite I ordered a few VW bus books and now I'll start more researching. Thanks Lin On 6/11/07, derf wrote: > > I can ask him. He did a bug and had to fabricate a hood. You should > watch this: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XvjVvFdMIY From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jun 12 04:31:33 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 06:31:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Plastic repair not LBC Message-ID: <205cef430706120331k10caf295u1f0e2dbebeecb7a6@mail.gmail.com> Listers, Does anyone know where I can get the plastic welding product that industry is using to repair plastic bodies? An acquaintance of mine who worked in the auto industry told me the auto manufacturers are using a glue to attach both metal and plastic body parts now because they have a product that is stronger than welding. I have a BMW cycle and an old crappy repair on the hard cases broke off where the strap holds the door open and I would rather use what they say is stronger than welding on the plastic. Thanks Linda 62 California Sprite "Pinky www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner 93 BMW R100R From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jun 12 04:33:03 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 06:33:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Stretching a top and toneau In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <205cef430706120333u3137bef7g756432404bf1dbf5@mail.gmail.com> That is what I have always done. I'd like to hear a better way. Are you sure they made that new top correctly? Lin On 6/11/07, James Pickard wrote: > > I have an old toneau cover and a brand new top. For some reason, both fit > very tight (actually, they barely fit at all). Any tips for getting them > to > stretch a bit? I've tried putting them out in the direct sunlight on a > 90+ > degree day and it didn't seem to help. > > Jim Pickard > B9473298 ('65 Tiger) > AN5L/12109 ('59 Sprite) > 2003 Mini Cooper > Lafayette, LA > _______________________________________________ > grunthaner at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Jun 12 05:30:43 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 06:30:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC In-Reply-To: <810637.78951.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <466DF89E.6010903@comcast.net> <810637.78951.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000601c7ace5$1f3936c0$5daba440$@com> I swear the manuals are different too. I've taken to painting the lower portion a bright color so it can be seen in the block in the car. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:10 PM To: Frank Clarici; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC --- Frank Clarici wrote: > Neither are any of mine. And I'll be dipped if I can > see a "larger or > small" 1/2 on those dizzy drives. I talked to the shop today - they said they struggled with it, they weren't confident it was right. I must have repeated their mistake last night. Eric Jones also confirmed that depending on the manual, the directions are different. How come I've never had it wrong before? From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jun 12 05:59:06 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 05:59:06 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Root cause found - timing issue In-Reply-To: <462583.57238.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <462583.57238.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706120459q14c168aekfac64ba05c6ebf6c@mail.gmail.com> > Bonus question - why do the SCCA guys use bronze > distributor gears> > Less wear on the steel parts? From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jun 12 06:06:40 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 06:06:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Plastic repair not LBC In-Reply-To: <205cef430706120331k10caf295u1f0e2dbebeecb7a6@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430706120331k10caf295u1f0e2dbebeecb7a6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706120506s210d4101n5796cbf5ab2c7f5@mail.gmail.com> Panelbond? It's a 3M two-part epoxy. From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jun 12 06:07:42 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 06:07:42 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Plastic repair not LBC In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706120506s210d4101n5796cbf5ab2c7f5@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430706120331k10caf295u1f0e2dbebeecb7a6@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910706120506s210d4101n5796cbf5ab2c7f5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706120507h175e7835n90b1e6656e2ff8d1@mail.gmail.com> Or, make that Panel Bond. On 6/12/07, derf wrote: > Panelbond? It's a 3M two-part epoxy. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jun 12 06:29:35 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 07:29:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] CM Article Message-ID: <06dd01c7aced$56b0c340$0401a8c0@midget> Chuck, I was just reading my July issue of Classic Motorsports. P 125 has an SVRA Member Spotlight article on Cindy and Larry Shaffer. Larry mentions having had his 948 Sprite engine overhauled by a dealer in PA named Brad Christ. Just wondered if it was a relative... David From BJ8Healey at msn.com Tue Jun 12 07:46:54 2007 From: BJ8Healey at msn.com (James Sailer) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 07:46:54 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] To Title as 60 or 61? Message-ID: Good-day folks. I received my heritage certificate for my frogeye .. It has a build date of July 5 1960. The car was imported into California and has a black plastic tag indicating BMC 61 adjacent to the VIN. The car was incorrectly titled as a 64 at some point and I now have the opportunity to correct that. What is the consensus on if the car would have originally been titled as a 1960 (build date) or 1961 (BMC tag). Thanks. Jim Sailer From duncan at pondhop.com Tue Jun 12 08:18:14 2007 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 09:18:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Root cause found - timing issue In-Reply-To: <462583.57238.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <462583.57238.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003401c7acfc$83b3c040$8b1b40c0$@com> <> That's funny Glad you got it figured out. Duncan -----Original Message----- From: Ron Soave [mailto:soavero at yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 2:46 AM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Root cause found - timing issue It was, in fact, the dizzy gear out 180. When I checked last night, it was not at TDC, #4 was at TDC so the dizzy gear was right side up. Tonight after a good hour and half sleep, I checked it again, and the drive was off 180. I marked the large side per Flounder's good suggestion. What's good about this is it made me think about stuff I haven't in detail in a while. When I install cams and timing gear, I degree it properly with dials and the like - the process blocked the concept a little. Thanks for the replies, even those that were in triplicate, quadruplicate, and derflicate. Bonus question - why do the SCCA guys use bronze distributor gears> Ron ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting _______________________________________________ duncan at pondhop.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Jun 12 08:41:58 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 09:41:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0706112218s210072f3qdeb937dc2bbd430a@mail.gmail.com> References: <262222.21516.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <00ff01c7ac9b$a9b3f500$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <0b1401c7ac9c$b7f48700$6401a8c0@Larry> <5f00d9910706112003g3794a9cau114e2914a6fa2f89@mail.gmail.com> <0b3e01c7aca4$b91343d0$6401a8c0@Larry> <5f00d9910706112103i56d6392em9f46a9e8845bb9ca@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0706112218s210072f3qdeb937dc2bbd430a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: nah.. sounds like something that your urologist should check out.. Lester On Jun 12, 2007, at 12:18 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > I vote we make it easy and henceforth call it Rotsac.... Rot - Sack > > Cool word! Sounds like some kinda Visigoth warrior!! > > Cheers! > Jim > > On 6/11/07, derf wrote: >> I think you have to choose your favorite spelling or is it your >> favourite spelling? >> Castor oil is definitely castOr. I think suspension can be castEr >> or castOr. >> >> But wait, two experts wrote books and each spelled the word >> differently. I dunno, maybe they should flame each other on an email >> message list. One of them might use a Phillips driver >> on...........oh, nevermind. >> >> I am certain anyone who has written a book is correct, though. Have >> you ever seen one of those horrible Corvairs? Good thing that guy >> wrote that book. Otherwise we'd all be dead now. Because of him the >> world is a better place. We should maybe vote for him next time he >> runs for some office. >> Cheers, >> Derf >> _______________________________________________ >> bmwwxman at gmail.com >> >> Edit your replies >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > > > -- > 1964 R60/2 BMW > 1968 MG Midget > 1976 R90/6 BMW > 1990 K100LT BMW > Thomas Huxley - "It is not who is right, but what is right, that is of > importance." > _______________________________________________ > oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wzharrison at comcast.net Tue Jun 12 08:53:05 2007 From: wzharrison at comcast.net (Walt & Zoe Harrison) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 07:53:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] To Title as 60 or 61? References: Message-ID: <040f01c7ad01$62557a10$5abbb743@harrisonpc5> Jim, We had the same situation with our Sprite, the Oregon title listed it as a 1961, but the BMIHT certificate read May 11-12, 1960. The Oregon DMV accepted the certificate date and re-issued the title as 1960. (This was 1989, after we got the BMIHT certificate.) IMHO, try to get it changed to 1960. Walt Harrison PS: BMIHT: British Motor Industry Heritage Trust ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Sailer" To: "Spridget List" Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 6:46 AM Subject: [Spridgets] To Title as 60 or 61? Good-day folks. I received my heritage certificate for my frogeye .. It has a build date of July 5 1960. The car was imported into California and has a black plastic tag indicating BMC 61 adjacent to the VIN. The car was incorrectly titled as a 64 at some point and I now have the opportunity to correct that. What is the consensus on if the car would have originally been titled as a 1960 (build date) or 1961 (BMC tag). Thanks. Jim Sailer From davriker at digitalpath.net Tue Jun 12 09:02:04 2007 From: davriker at digitalpath.net (David Riker) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 08:02:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Root cause found - timing issue References: <462583.57238.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00fe01c7ad02$a4d4fc70$6400a8c0@dave> Because it is easier (and less expensive) to replace a distributor gear than the camshaft if one of them fails, you want it to be the distributor gear. David Riker davriker at digitalpath.net http://community.webshots.com/user/fool4mg http://www.myspace.com/fool4mg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 12:45 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Root cause found - timing issue > Bonus question - why do the SCCA guys use bronze > distributor gears> > > Ron > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all > the tools to get online. > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting > _______________________________________________ > davriker at digitalpath.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/844 - Release Date: 6/11/2007 > 5:10 PM From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jun 12 09:33:18 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:33:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] To Title as 60 or 61? References: Message-ID: <006901c7ad07$00bc3860$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > ... What is the consensus on if the car would have originally been titled > as a 1960 (build date) or 1961 (BMC tag). Build date is irrelevant to title date. Titles tend to be based on when the car was sold as new, since the dealership wants you to think you got such a great deal. Having said that, I would lean towards correcting the title to say 1961, since that is the year I was born, but you would probably lean towards 1960. David Lieb From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jun 12 09:38:53 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:38:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC Message-ID: <20070612153853.CYUD23861.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> It's a little known fact that . . . 'Castor' is the French word for 'beaver', largest rodent in North America, ( except for politicians ). http://www.hww.ca/hww2.asp?id=82 They make a whining sound which annoys some of us, and we silence that noise by lubricating them with castor oil, made from the seeds of the castor plant. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castor_oil Not to be confused with Castrol Oil. > > On 6/11/07, derf wrote: > >> I think you have to choose your favorite spelling or is it your > >> favourite spelling? > >> Castor oil is definitely castOr. I think suspension can be castEr > >> or castOr. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Jun 12 09:44:57 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:44:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] To Title as 60 or 61? In-Reply-To: <006901c7ad07$00bc3860$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <006901c7ad07$00bc3860$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: The most common opinion is, there were NO 1961 Bugeyes, unless they were part of the CKD kits sent to Oz. All others are 1960 and earlier. I'm certain that a Heritage Cert would confirm this more often than not. Brad On 6/12/07, David Lieb wrote: > > ... What is the consensus on if the car would have originally been titled > > as a 1960 (build date) or 1961 (BMC tag). > > Build date is irrelevant to title date. Titles tend to be based on when the > car was sold as new, since the dealership wants you to think you got such a > great deal. Having said that, I would lean towards correcting the title to > say 1961, since that is the year I was born, but you would probably lean > towards 1960. > David Lieb From jlaird237 at cox.net Tue Jun 12 09:49:08 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:49:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] To Title as 60 or 61? References: Message-ID: <001001c7ad09$36b76cd0$6401a8c0@personal> Put the right date on it by all means. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Sailer" To: "Spridget List" Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 8:46 AM Subject: [Spridgets] To Title as 60 or 61? > Good-day folks. > > I received my heritage certificate for my frogeye .. It has a build date > of > July 5 1960. The car was imported into California and has a black plastic > tag > indicating BMC 61 adjacent to the VIN. The car was incorrectly titled as a > 64 > at some point and I now have the opportunity to correct that. What is the > consensus on if the car would have originally been titled as a 1960 (build > date) or 1961 (BMC tag). > > Thanks. > > Jim Sailer > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/843 - Release Date: 6/10/2007 > 1:39 PM From caws52803 at aol.com Tue Jun 12 10:04:44 2007 From: caws52803 at aol.com (caws52803 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:04:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] To Title as 60 or 61? In-Reply-To: References: <006901c7ad07$00bc3860$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <8C97B22872D2CD2-1790-18FD3@WEBMAIL-DF16.sysops.aol.com> I have a 61 RHD Bugeye with Heritage Certificate that states it was built in 1961.B According to Terry's and others books, there were 41 built that year and all were for home distribution as RHD. Rudy Streng Lenoir, NC -----Original Message----- From: Brad Fornal To: David Lieb Cc: Spridget List Sent: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:44 am Subject: Re: [Spridgets] To Title as 60 or 61? The most common opinion is, there were NO 1961 Bugeyes, unless they ere part of the CKD kits sent to Oz. All others are 1960 and earlier. 'm certain that a Heritage Cert would confirm this more often than not. Brad On 6/12/07, David Lieb wrote: > ... What is the consensus on if the car would have originally been titled > as a 1960 (build date) or 1961 (BMC tag). Build date is irrelevant to title date. Titles tend to be based on when the car was sold as new, since the dealership wants you to think you got such a great deal. Having said that, I would lean towards correcting the title to say 1961, since that is the year I was born, but you would probably lean towards 1960. David Lieb ______________________________________________ aws52803 at aol.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. From biffjones at verizon.net Tue Jun 12 10:22:17 2007 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:22:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] To Title as 60 or 61? References: Message-ID: <007001c7ad0d$d84a5a40$2f01a8c0@dell1> Jim, Although there were no Bugeyes (US export) built I would lean towards '61 only because you have the original BMC black tag for it. Otherwise I would say '60. Your car was most likely a leftover from 1960 and as already pointed out tag with the BMC sticker to make it appear as a 'new' 1961 car when it was sold. Just my opinion. Biff Jones 'Frogarri' '59 Bugeye 'Ole Gray' '61 AH Sprite http://sprites2.homestead.com/ From Daniel1312 at aol.com Tue Jun 12 11:53:13 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:53:13 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Root cause found - timing issue Message-ID: Don't know - is this is gear instead of a dog drive? or do you mean the distributor drive? Is it to prevent rust and seizing? Is it for better lubrication at very high rpm? Where do they get them from? Daniel1312 In a message dated 12/06/07 15:19:18 GMT Daylight Time, duncan at pondhop.com writes: > Bonus question - why do the SCCA guys use bronze > distributor gears> > > Ron From hal at katemuir.com Tue Jun 12 12:28:47 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:28:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Main bearing caps 1275 Message-ID: Spridgeteers, I notice that both Vizard and Des Hammil recommend strapping the center main bearing cap on an A-series engine. No one says anything about the other two. Is it desirable to strap either of the others? I am thinking of the rear main in particular. Any suggestions, ideas? When the center main cap is strapped what happens to the oil pick-up bracket? Should the strap be drilled and tapped and the bracket modified, or is one attachment point sufficient? It seems that if the oil pick-up works loose it could have rather deleterious effects on the bottom end of the motor, either by oil starvation or by direct interference with the motion of the crank. Hal From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Tue Jun 12 12:26:27 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:26:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] To Title as 60 or 61? References: <007001c7ad0d$d84a5a40$2f01a8c0@dell1> Message-ID: <00f301c7ad1f$3239f900$f675fea9@p0k7l8> That black plastic tag that might say "BMC 61", was nothing but retagging a car that wasn't selling. No one wanted to buy a one year old "New" car so this was the fix. I have a Morris Minor van that has that same tag, screwed onto the end of the original tag on the firewall. FWIW, Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Biff Jones" To: "Spridget List" Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] To Title as 60 or 61? > Jim, > > Although there were no Bugeyes (US export) built I would lean towards '61 > only because you have the original BMC black tag for it. Otherwise I would > say '60. Your car was most likely a leftover from 1960 and as already > pointed out tag with the BMC sticker to make it appear as a 'new' 1961 car > when it was sold. Just my opinion. > > Biff Jones > 'Frogarri' '59 Bugeye > 'Ole Gray' '61 AH Sprite > http://sprites2.homestead.com/ > _______________________________________________ > pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Tue Jun 12 12:27:04 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:27:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] To Title as 60 or 61? Message-ID: <00f901c7ad1f$486330c0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> That black plastic tag that might say "BMC 61", was nothing but retagging a car that wasn't selling. No one wanted to buy a one year old "New" car so this was the fix. I have a Morris Minor van that has that same tag, screwed onto the end of the original tag on the firewall. FWIW, Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Asgeirsson" To: "Biff Jones" ; "Spridget List" Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] To Title as 60 or 61? > That black plastic tag that might say "BMC 61", was nothing but retagging a > car that wasn't selling. No one wanted to buy a one year old "New" car so > this was the fix. I have a Morris Minor van that has that same tag, screwed > onto the end of the original tag on the firewall. > > FWIW, Paul A > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Biff Jones" > To: "Spridget List" > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 9:22 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] To Title as 60 or 61? > > > > Jim, > > > > Although there were no Bugeyes (US export) built I would lean towards '61 > > only because you have the original BMC black tag for it. Otherwise I > would > > say '60. Your car was most likely a leftover from 1960 and as already > > pointed out tag with the BMC sticker to make it appear as a 'new' 1961 car > > when it was sold. Just my opinion. > > > > Biff Jones > > 'Frogarri' '59 Bugeye > > 'Ole Gray' '61 AH Sprite From Daniel1312 at aol.com Tue Jun 12 12:33:23 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 14:33:23 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC Message-ID: Maybe it's because they are British, American,Belgian and French. Obviously the British spelling is only correct in Britain, the American spelling only correct in America and the Belgians and French are wrong everywhere, everywere, averywore. Daniel1312 In a message dated 12/06/07 04:49:20 GMT Daylight Time, ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: > You are free to tell either of these experts that they don't know > what they are talking about. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Jun 12 12:33:29 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:33:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Root cause found - timing issue In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >> Bonus question - why do the SCCA guys use bronze >> distributor gears> My experience with Hudsons was that bronze distributor gears can wear thin and shatter, sending metal bits all through the engine. I never considered that to be much of an advantage. I did, however, like the chromium alloy blocks and the sodium filled exhaust valves. BZ From Daniel1312 at aol.com Tue Jun 12 12:36:19 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 14:36:19 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Brake bleeder valve Message-ID: Derf told me there is a special tool for fitting the E clip.................. or was it that other guy? Or you could try a BFG and swear words it works for 50% of users 33% of the time except those that use vise grips......... In a message dated 12/06/07 04:25:44 GMT Daylight Time, tr3.4.me at gmail.com writes: > I'm guessing there's a trick here From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jun 12 12:38:15 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:38:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC References: Message-ID: <008b01c7ad20$d76f68f0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Maybe it's because they are British, American,Belgian and French. > Obviously > the British spelling is only correct in Britain, the American spelling > only > correct in America and the Belgians and French are wrong everywhere, > everywere, > averywore. Hey, is there some reason you are not picking on the Germans, the Dutch, Brazilians, or Yugoslavs? Equality for all, donchano! ED From Daniel1312 at aol.com Tue Jun 12 12:40:59 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 14:40:59 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC Message-ID: They never wrote books on suspension in the original thred!! In a message dated 12/06/07 19:39:41 GMT Daylight Time, dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes: > Hey, is there some reason you are not picking on the Germans, the Dutch, > Brazilians, or Yugoslavs? Equality for all, donchano! > ED From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jun 12 12:46:05 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:46:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC References: Message-ID: <009801c7ad21$eeef3a90$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >> Hey, is there some reason you are not picking on the Germans, the Dutch, >> Brazilians, or Yugoslavs? Equality for all, donchano! >> ED > They never wrote books on suspension in the original thred!! And you are going to let a little detail like that bother you??? I am going to pointedly ignore the "thred" there as too petty to mention... From Daniel1312 at aol.com Tue Jun 12 12:49:33 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 14:49:33 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Main bearing caps 1275 Message-ID: Hal, The centre main has a harder life than the end bearings so generally it's only the centre main that gets the reinforcing strap. I have however, seen a photo of an A-series engine with all 3 bearing caps strapped. In my opinion it's simpler not to bother having the centre main strapped but to have a steel 4 bolt main instead. Ok it's not simpler as the block has to be drilled and tapped. I think you can get 2 bolt performance main caps and a set of 2 bolts and a set of 4 bolts. When the old engine comes out of my car and the new one is in and running I'll pull the sump to have a look to see what the engine builder did with the oil pickup pipe. Remember both Vizard and Hamill are very bias in text and photos to the transverse A-series. The new engine in my Sprite is having a 4 bolt main and it is drilled and tapped for the oil pickup pipe. If you get a 4 bolt main for the Mini (or Austin Metro) you'll find it isn't drilled and tapped for the oil pickup pipe. Have a look at www.aptfast.com and their section on main bearing caps and stuff. Regards Daniel1312 In a message dated 12/06/07 19:24:49 GMT Daylight Time, hal at katemuir.com writes: > Spridgeteers, > > I notice that both Vizard and Des Hammil recommend strapping the center main > bearing cap on an A-series engine. No one says anything about the other > two. Is it desirable to strap either of the others? I am thinking of the > rear main in particular. Any suggestions, ideas? > When the center main cap is strapped what happens to the oil pick-up > bracket? Should the strap be drilled and tapped and the bracket modified, > or is one attachment point sufficient? It seems that if the oil pick-up > works loose it could have rather deleterious effects on the bottom end of > the motor, either by oil starvation or by direct interference with the > motion of the crank. > > Hal From dwramsey at worldnet.att.net Tue Jun 12 13:13:17 2007 From: dwramsey at worldnet.att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:13:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] To Title as 60 or 61? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070612191128.0BE701879F1@autox.team.net> My car is also a California with the 61BMC tag build date around the 4th of July. It is titled as a 61. Crash Good-day folks. I received my heritage certificate for my frogeye .. It has a build date of July 5 1960. The car was imported into California and has a black plastic tag indicating BMC 61 adjacent to the VIN. The car was incorrectly titled as a 64 at some point and I now have the opportunity to correct that. What is the consensus on if the car would have originally been titled as a 1960 (build date) or 1961 (BMC tag). Thanks. Jim Sailer From cfchrist at earthlink.net Tue Jun 12 14:13:21 2007 From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (Charles Christ) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:13:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] To Title as 60 or 61? Message-ID: <410-220076212201321359@earthlink.net> my 1959 bugeye is titled as a 1961. that is the year it was sold new. chuck. > [Original Message] > From: Brad Fornal > To: David Lieb > Cc: Spridget List > Date: 6/12/2007 11:45:18 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] To Title as 60 or 61? > > The most common opinion is, there were NO 1961 Bugeyes, unless they > were part of the CKD kits sent to Oz. All others are 1960 and earlier. > I'm certain that a Heritage Cert would confirm this more often than not. > > Brad From racerbob70 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 12 14:26:49 2007 From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Main bearing caps 1275 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <383910.69078.qm@web51605.mail.re2.yahoo.com> When replacing the center main, wheather it be a 2 or 4 bolt, you will have to have the mains align bored and the trust washer area also trued up and because the new center main is VERY hard material your machinist will have some choice words for you. --- Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: > Hal, > > The centre main has a harder life than the end > bearings so generally it's > only the centre main that gets the reinforcing > strap. I have however, seen a > photo of an A-series engine with all 3 bearing caps > strapped. > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469 From John.Deikis at va.gov Tue Jun 12 14:29:02 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:29:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap Message-ID: So, Rick Fisk came down in his red Caddy to help do the Works Midget engine swap. We needed to pull the street motor out of the race car and put it back into the bug-eyed Frankensprite. Then we needed install the SpecSprite motor and make another valiant effort to get it right. I'm hoping sitting on the garage floor for 2 years taught it a valuable lesson and it will behave this time! Well we both tried talking with New Jersey accents...then we tried those wife beater shirts, like Brando used to wear. We ordered strombolis and cheese steak hoagies from a dago carry-out. We even put on fake gold neck chains and loitered around the Caddy. Nothing doing! We could not do the swap in 20 minutes. No way. Never. Maybe with a '48 DeSoto, but not a Spridget. So, maybe one of you clever guys can give me some ideas for simplifying the radiator-and-shroud R&R on a stock-bodied Spridget. Seems like the way it wedges in above the little valence behind the grill, it doesn't need all those machine bolts and de-captivated captive nuts. Has anyone tried any simple modification? Vice grips? Zip-ties? Arc welding? It's a stock cross-flow rad with all the stock shrouding in place. JohnD From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jun 12 16:22:48 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 18:22:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Plastic repair not LBC In-Reply-To: <205cef430706120331k10caf295u1f0e2dbebeecb7a6@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430706120331k10caf295u1f0e2dbebeecb7a6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430706121522l789d80a6r4113aed3c5f988a8@mail.gmail.com> Thanks Guys, I'll give it a try. Lin On 6/12/07, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > Listers, > Does anyone know where I can get the plastic welding product that industry > is using to repair plastic bodies? An acquaintance of mine who worked in the > auto industry told me the auto manufacturers are using a glue to attach both > metal and plastic body parts now because they have a product that is > stronger than welding. I have a BMW cycle and an old crappy repair on the > hard cases broke off where the strap holds the door open and I would rather > use what they say is stronger than welding on the plastic. > Thanks > Linda > > 62 California Sprite "Pinky > www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner > > 93 BMW R100R From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jun 12 16:26:56 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 18:26:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] AN5 In-Reply-To: <009701c7ac9c$e067c080$3c34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> References: <009701c7ac9c$e067c080$3c34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <205cef430706121526s40e430dbycc650fb9418e5dc1@mail.gmail.com> Michael, Yes isn't that one the best. My car's clone is in there it's the pink one, but not that pretty yet. Lin 62 California Sprite "PInky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner On 6/11/07, Michael Conn wrote: > > I received my copy of Horler's "Original Sprite & Midget" today. Great > reading. > > I've got another book on the way too. > _______________________________________________ > grunthaner at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jun 12 16:32:16 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:32:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Main bearing caps 1275 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <857241.90083.qm@web30514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: > In my opinion it's simpler not to bother having the > centre main strapped but > to have a steel 4 bolt main instead. Ok it's not I have one, I sleep better knowing it's there. The block has to be align bored and the thrust washer slots need to be sized properly, and the directions on how to orient it are not quite right. You also drill and tap the hole for the oil pickup strainer. They are like $350 at the suppliers, less than $100 on the SCCA bulletin boards if you keep your eyes peeled. My buddy Jeff has 3 straps on his thin flanged race motor, 4 years no issues. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php From grunt333 at verizon.net Tue Jun 12 16:34:58 2007 From: grunt333 at verizon.net (CARL ELLIOT) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:34:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] On the Road Message-ID: <821868.98061.qm@web84314.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Took the MG Automatic for first run today . not bad, Rear brakes need some work , must be from sitting. Wife will be very pleased . CarlE. From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jun 12 16:38:18 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 18:38:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Installing a new rocker panel on a MKII Message-ID: <205cef430706121538o2dc469ax196e3c91b90a28ae@mail.gmail.com> List , I am almost ready to install new rocker panels on my MKII. My first thought was to cut the parts I need and butt weld them in with MIG welding but then I thought maybe it would be just as hard/easy to install the whole thing. Do I have to remove the rear renders to do the job right? Are there any lister's who have or know who has replaced the whole rocker before if so who are they? The only person I know who has done extensive body work on the Sprite is Frank. Frank do you think I need to remove the rear fender? How do I split the weld without ruining the existing fender. Perhaps I should just replace the fenders too? Maybe that would be the easiest way just remove the fenders also. Suggestions welcome. Lin 62 California Sprite "Pinky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jun 12 16:44:17 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 18:44:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] On the Road In-Reply-To: <821868.98061.qm@web84314.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <821868.98061.qm@web84314.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <205cef430706121544h25582fc3p2c40bf4da0c068e2@mail.gmail.com> Carl, I didn't know MG made an automatic, what year & model? Thanks Lin On 6/12/07, CARL ELLIOT wrote: > > Took the MG Automatic for first run today . not bad, > Rear brakes need some work , must be from sitting. > Wife will be very pleased . CarlE. > _______________________________________________ > grunthaner at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From Daniel1312 at aol.com Tue Jun 12 16:51:56 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 18:51:56 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Bronze distributor gears Message-ID: Because they they think the distributor runs off the cam and don't want to wear the cam etc - Mallory do them and have a more detailed explanation! Mallory does say they need replacing more often & must be checked regularly. Daniel1312 > why do the SCCA guys use bronze > distributor gears> > > Ron From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Jun 12 16:54:04 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 17:54:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] On the Road In-Reply-To: <205cef430706121544h25582fc3p2c40bf4da0c068e2@mail.gmail.com> References: <821868.98061.qm@web84314.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <205cef430706121544h25582fc3p2c40bf4da0c068e2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Counldn't one take the drivetrain out of an Austin America, and use that? Weren't those the station wagon with the hydrolastic suspension in them? On 6/12/07, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Carl, > I didn't know MG made an automatic, what year & model? > Thanks Lin > > > On 6/12/07, CARL ELLIOT wrote: > > > > Took the MG Automatic for first run today . not bad, > > Rear brakes need some work , must be from sitting. > > Wife will be very pleased . CarlE. > > _______________________________________________ > > grunthaner at gmail.com From Daniel1312 at aol.com Tue Jun 12 16:57:04 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 18:57:04 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Main bearing caps 1275 Message-ID: C'mon Ron - confession time..... You only have to drill and tap the hole if you buy the Mini/transverse cap and APT www.aptfast.com sell a Spridget specific cap that's already drilled and tapped. I think the APT price is US$132 (about a year ago). Daniel1312 In a message dated 12/06/07 23:33:28 GMT Daylight Time, soavero at yahoo.com writes: > You also drill > and tap the hole for the oil pickup strainer. They are > like $350 at the suppliers, less than $100 on the SCCA > bulletin boards if you keep your eyes peeled. From mconn2 at bright.net Tue Jun 12 16:53:54 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 18:53:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Morris 8 References: <000a01c7ac73$fccbce20$7934ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <007001c7ac74$b7202730$d280bc43@HP> <000601c7ac99$f076f4d0$3c34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <011e01c7ac9f$484075b0$d280bc43@HP> Message-ID: <001b01c7ad45$63c9d9b0$f6aeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> Larry, Thank you. Look forward to receiving it. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry & Sandi Miller" To: "Michael Conn" Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Morris 8 > So far I've only found one picture. I will scan it and send it to you. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Conn" > To: "Larry & Sandi Miller" > Cc: "spridgets" > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 7:32 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Morris 8 > > >> Larry, >> >> If you find them, could you send me copies of two or three, please? >> >> Michael >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Larry & Sandi Miller" >> To: "Michael Conn" ; "Paul Asgeirsson" >> >> Cc: "spridgets" >> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 6:06 PM >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Morris 8 >> >> >>>I had one of those. Got some pics around here someplace. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Michael Conn" >>> To: "Paul Asgeirsson" >>> Cc: "spridgets" >>> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 3:00 PM >>> Subject: [Spridgets] Morris 8 From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Jun 12 17:01:36 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 18:01:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Main bearing caps 1275 In-Reply-To: <857241.90083.qm@web30514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <857241.90083.qm@web30514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00b701c7ad45$a2b57c60$e8207520$@com> Mini Mania has some for $25 -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 5:32 PM To: Daniel1312 at aol.com; hal at katemuir.com; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Main bearing caps 1275 --- Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: > In my opinion it's simpler not to bother having the > centre main strapped but > to have a steel 4 bolt main instead. Ok it's not I have one, I sleep better knowing it's there. The block has to be align bored and the thrust washer slots need to be sized properly, and the directions on how to orient it are not quite right. You also drill and tap the hole for the oil pickup strainer. They are like $350 at the suppliers, less than $100 on the SCCA bulletin boards if you keep your eyes peeled. My buddy Jeff has 3 straps on his thin flanged race motor, 4 years no issues. Ron From mconn2 at bright.net Tue Jun 12 17:02:25 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 19:02:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I wanna count his fingers!!!!! References: <381-2200762124490459@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <001e01c7ad45$be78b980$f6aeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> Robert, I enjoyed looking at these pictures. It's nice to be able to put faces to the names. Michael From Daniel1312 at aol.com Tue Jun 12 17:05:49 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 19:05:49 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Main bearing caps 1275 Message-ID: Are they made in China or s/h? In a message dated 13/06/07 00:02:21 GMT Daylight Time, wsthompson at thicko.com writes: > Mini Mania has some for $25 From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Jun 12 17:09:11 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 18:09:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Main bearing caps 1275 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00bb01c7ad46$b3b2bd60$1b183820$@com> http://www.spridgetmania.com/web/SUBTYPE/SearchText/CarSearch/SPRITE/Search/ center%20main%20strap/AddedFrom/SearchI/Search_Inventory.cfm From: Daniel1312 at aol.com [mailto:Daniel1312 at aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 6:06 PM To: wsthompson at thicko.com; soavero at yahoo.com; hal at katemuir.com; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Main bearing caps 1275 Are they made in China or s/h? In a message dated 13/06/07 00:02:21 GMT Daylight Time, wsthompson at thicko.com writes: Mini Mania has some for $25 From mconn2 at bright.net Tue Jun 12 17:11:33 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 19:11:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] To Title as 60 or 61? References: Message-ID: <005401c7ad47$0539dd30$f6aeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> Jim, My feeling is the Build Date is the correct date like a "Birth Certificate". There were no Sprites built in 1961 save for a few RHD CKD's. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Sailer" To: "Spridget List" Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 9:46 AM Subject: [Spridgets] To Title as 60 or 61? > Good-day folks. > > I received my heritage certificate for my frogeye .. It has a build date > of > July 5 1960. The car was imported into California and has a black plastic > tag > indicating BMC 61 adjacent to the VIN. The car was incorrectly titled as a > 64 > at some point and I now have the opportunity to correct that. What is the > consensus on if the car would have originally been titled as a 1960 (build > date) or 1961 (BMC tag). > > Thanks. > > Jim Sailer > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From Daniel1312 at aol.com Tue Jun 12 17:12:33 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 19:12:33 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Main bearing caps 1275 Message-ID: That's just the strap for a cap not a h/d 2 bolt or 4 bolt cap. In a message dated 13/06/07 00:09:27 GMT Daylight Time, wsthompson at thicko.com writes: > > http://www.spridgetmania.com/web/SUBTYPE/SearchText/CarSearch/SPRITE/Search/center%20main%20strap/AddedFrom/SearchI/Search_Inventory.cfm > > > > > > > > From: Daniel1312 at aol.com [mailto:Daniel1312 at aol.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 6:06 PM > To: wsthompson at thicko.com; soavero at yahoo.com; hal at katemuir.com; > spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Main bearing caps 1275 > > > > > Are they made in China or s/h? > > In a message dated 13/06/07 00:02:21 GMT Daylight Time, > wsthompson at thicko.com writes: > > > > > > Mini Mania has some for $25 From mconn2 at bright.net Tue Jun 12 17:19:04 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 19:19:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC References: Message-ID: <008401c7ad48$1216e790$f6aeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> Dappertutto. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Help - lots of long LBC > Maybe it's because they are British, American,Belgian and French. > Obviously > the British spelling is only correct in Britain, the American spelling > only > correct in America and the Belgians and French are wrong everywhere, > everywere, > averywore. > > Daniel1312 > > In a message dated 12/06/07 04:49:20 GMT Daylight Time, > ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: > > >> You are free to tell either of these experts that they don't know >> what they are talking about. > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Jun 12 17:23:58 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 18:23:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Main bearing caps 1275 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00c301c7ad48$c2e6baa0$48b42fe0$@com> Yeah, I know. That's what we use (or similar) for strapping the center main on race motors. Mill the center cap flat, etc. and bolt the strap on top of it. From: Daniel1312 at aol.com [mailto:Daniel1312 at aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 6:13 PM To: wsthompson at thicko.com; soavero at yahoo.com; hal at katemuir.com; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Main bearing caps 1275 That's just the strap for a cap not a h/d 2 bolt or 4 bolt cap. In a message dated 13/06/07 00:09:27 GMT Daylight Time, wsthompson at thicko.com writes: http://www.spridgetmania.com/web/SUBTYPE/SearchText/CarSearch/SPRITE/Search/ center%20main%20strap/AddedFrom/SearchI/Search_Inventory.cfm From: Daniel1312 at aol.com [mailto:Daniel1312 at aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 6:06 PM To: wsthompson at thicko.com; soavero at yahoo.com; hal at katemuir.com; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Main bearing caps 1275 Are they made in China or s/h? In a message dated 13/06/07 00:02:21 GMT Daylight Time, wsthompson at thicko.com writes: Mini Mania has some for $25 From mconn2 at bright.net Tue Jun 12 17:35:16 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 19:35:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] AN5 References: <009701c7ac9c$e067c080$3c34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <205cef430706121526s40e430dbycc650fb9418e5dc1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00a501c7ad4a$56906fc0$f6aeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> Linda, A pink Sprite! Wonderful. I've always wanted (seriously) a pink Cadillac. I've received another book today: Lindsay Porter's DIY Restoration. I'll have to look at that in very small doses -so many pictures of rust. Thank goodness they're not in color. Black and white is bad enough. I'm having my 1960 Sprite painted leaf green, and am going to help my friend with a prep work. Having looked at Porter's book I'm left with vivid thoughts that my beautiful AN5 is probably only held together by the paint that's on it now. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Grunthaner To: Michael Conn Cc: spridgets Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] AN5 Michael, Yes isn't that one the best. My car's clone is in there it's the pink one, but not that pretty yet. Lin 62 California Sprite "PInky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner On 6/11/07, Michael Conn wrote: I received my copy of Horler's "Original Sprite & Midget" today. Great reading. I've got another book on the way too. _______________________________________________ grunthaner at gmail.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mconn2 at bright.net Tue Jun 12 17:50:23 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 19:50:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1960 AN5 Message-ID: <00e501c7ad4c$71feeb40$f6aeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> List, My AN5 has a horrible modern, so called, sports steering wheel installed. Can any body tell me how to get it off. (There is a rubber concertina type "cowl" from the back of the wheel to the dash. The wheel has its own center motive not the Sprite motive.) I can't see where or how to start. I have the original steering wheel, and want to put that back on. Michael From mconn2 at bright.net Tue Jun 12 18:14:05 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 20:14:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Morris 8 References: <000a01c7ac73$fccbce20$7934ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <7.0.1.0.2.20070611171928.0365b490@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <013c01c7ad4f$c22450d0$f6aeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> Peter, Great. Thank you. Do you drive the one you have? Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter C" To: "Michael Conn" ; "Paul Asgeirsson" Cc: "spridgets" Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Morris 8 >I have a 1931 OHC Minor fabric saloon. see www.vintageminor.co.uk for >pictures of good ones. > > Mine is "tatty". > > Peter C. > > == > At 05:00 PM 6/11/2007, Michael Conn wrote: > >> Paul, >> >> That's it: Morris 8! Now tell me I should have kept it (worth a lot of >>money, I hope not). >> >>Michael From duncan at pondhop.com Tue Jun 12 18:49:31 2007 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 19:49:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1960 AN5 In-Reply-To: <00e501c7ad4c$71feeb40$f6aeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> References: <00e501c7ad4c$71feeb40$f6aeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <000001c7ad54$b43ccc90$1cb665b0$@com> << I can't see where or how to start >> Should be easy Michael 1) Remove wheel center cover. 2) Unscrew wheel center nut until nearly off. 3) Pull wheel towards you and hit the back off the hub with plastic hammer if needed. It should pop off Leaving the nut on a turn or so will stop you getting a steering wheel in the face at high speed Extreme cases may require a steering wheel puller to be used Duncan From dmg at bossig.com Tue Jun 12 19:58:19 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (dmg at bossig.com) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 18:58:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Help for web sources.... Message-ID: <466EECCB.1463.6D377DE@dmg.bossig.com> My daughter used my PC on Sunday, surfing the web looking for data for a college paper. She forgot that I don't like OK'ing cookies without checking who's trying to set what... End result -- my PC's hard drive got trashed and is no longer operational -- this is being written on a borrowed laptop. How it got through my virus and firewall software beats me... Anyway, I lost all my bookmarks... the ones I need most are those of listers who have either a parts business or sell parts (new, NOS or used). Can anybody help out with a selection..?? I remembered Speedwell, Mo$$ and VB... but that's all :-( Off list would be best -- so that I don't use up precious bandwidth.. TIA Dave G. From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jun 12 20:05:56 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 19:05:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <483115.8067.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Replace the bolts with pan head screws and use your cordless screw gun. > So, maybe one of you clever guys can give me some > ideas for simplifying > the radiator-and-shroud R&R on a stock-bodied > Spridget. Seems like the > way it wedges in above the little valence behind the > grill, it doesn't > need all those machine bolts and de-captivated > captive nuts. Has anyone > tried any simple modification? Vice grips? > Zip-ties? Arc welding? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121 From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jun 12 20:13:31 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 19:13:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Main bearing caps 1275 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070613021331.59706.qmail@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: > C'mon Ron - confession time..... Fr. Daniel, I was confusing the steel 3 pc set for $350. The center only from APT is $159. I didn't know there was a Spridget specific one. I have the Mini Spares one, I got it from Spridgetech for less than 1/2 the APT price. Drilling and tapping was nowhere near $80 worth of aggravation! Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ From BJ8Healey at msn.com Tue Jun 12 20:44:26 2007 From: BJ8Healey at msn.com (James Sailer) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 20:44:26 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks - Titled as 1960 Message-ID: Thanks to all for your input. I titled the car according to the build date as a 1960. I was curious though of what to do based on the BMC 61 tag. Cheers. Jim Sailer 60 Frogeye 66 BJ8 From mconn2 at bright.net Tue Jun 12 20:55:48 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 22:55:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks - Titled as 1960 References: Message-ID: <020d01c7ad66$597333a0$f6aeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> James, Glad to help. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Sailer" To: "Spridget List" Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 10:44 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks - Titled as 1960 > Thanks to all for your input. I titled the car according to the build > date as > a 1960. I was curious though of what to do based on the BMC 61 tag. > > Cheers. > > Jim Sailer > 60 Frogeye > 66 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Tue Jun 12 20:59:49 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 21:59:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap References: <483115.8067.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <016701c7ad66$e8235e90$6501a8c0@actualshop> I was gonna answer sooner but... <> Why not just put captive nuts on the sides (2 per) of rad mounting brackets and use POINTED machine bolts (with cordless screw gung)??? I stock the Capture Housings. From abcoz at hky.com Tue Jun 12 21:00:39 2007 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 23:00:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Installing a new rocker panel on a MKII In-Reply-To: <205cef430706121538o2dc469ax196e3c91b90a28ae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <006401c7ad67$05ee79a0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Linda, I wouldn't replace the fenders, unless they are bad, too. Usually, if the outer sill is bad, there are also problems with at least the lower 2" of the A post, and the rear quarter, just above the sill. In order to do it right, (IMHO) it is necessary to spot (MIG plug welds work fine) weld the base of the A post and the rear quarter to the top of the sill. If you study their construction carefully, you realize that the A post and the rear fender were probably spot welded to the sill BEFORE the outer sill, A post and fender were attached to the inner sill and the rest of the body tub. Soooo, the only way I know to get those seams right AND strong is to cut the lower few inches from the A post and the rear fender and weld them to the sill. Just take your time, and do lots of measuring & trial fitting before you make your final cuts. Then, fit and secure things very carefully and accurately before welding anything irreversibly into place. Get the door lined up/fitted BEFORE you cut any of the original stuff away, and use the door to help line the new pieces up. A couple of small pilot holes, to mark the correct alignment of everything, then, run some self-tapping sheet metal screws in to hold everything accurately in place, until you get things tack welded in. It's kinda fun, really, and very satisfying when you get it right, because you can't tell it from original. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 5:38 PM To: spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Installing a new rocker panel on a MKII List , I am almost ready to install new rocker panels on my MKII. My first thought was to cut the parts I need and butt weld them in with MIG welding but then I thought maybe it would be just as hard/easy to install the whole thing. Do I have to remove the rear renders to do the job right? Are there any lister's who have or know who has replaced the whole rocker before if so who are they? The only person I know who has done extensive body work on the Sprite is Frank. Frank do you think I need to remove the rear fender? How do I split the weld without ruining the existing fender. Perhaps I should just replace the fenders too? Maybe that would be the easiest way just remove the fenders also. Suggestions welcome. Lin 62 California Sprite "Pinky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner _______________________________________________ From dmeadow at juno.com Tue Jun 12 21:23:36 2007 From: dmeadow at juno.com (dmeadow at juno.com) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 22:23:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap Message-ID: <20070612.222347.2596.3.dmeadow@juno.com> I've had engines in and out of our two race Midgets so many times I've lost count. The slowest parts were often the slave cylinder (got a mod for that, too) and getting the damned radiator out. Some time ago I fixed the shrouds on both cars so that the top of the shroud and the radiator all come out with four bolts. I cut through the shroud on either side a few inches from the top. I made two small aluminum plates for each side to "repair" the cut, using three bolts on each-- two to hold the plate to the bottom part of the shroud and one to hold the top. I used T nuts on all of these so there because you can't otherwise access the inside of the shroud. I also replaced the two bolts on the bottom of the radiator with two studs. I remove the radiator by removing the two small bolts that fasten the forward part of the shroud to the nosepiece on the car and the two bolts that hold the small aluminum plates to the top part of the shroud on either side. Since the studs on the bottom of the radiator are not bolted to the bottom of the shroud, I can then just lift the radiator out. I leave the two bolts that go through the top of the shroud to the radiator in place, so the top part of the shroud and the radiator come out together. Reassembly, as they say, is the reverse. I've got some pictures somewhere if you are interested. David Littlefield On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:29:02 -0400 "Deikis, John G" writes: > So, maybe one of you clever guys can give me some ideas for > simplifying > the radiator-and-shroud R&R on a stock-bodied Spridget. Seems like > the > way it wedges in above the little valence behind the grill, it > doesn't > need all those machine bolts and de-captivated captive nuts. Has > anyone > tried any simple modification? Vice grips? Zip-ties? Arc welding? > > > > It's a stock cross-flow rad with all the stock shrouding in place. From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jun 12 22:41:33 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 22:41:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 1960 AN5 In-Reply-To: <00e501c7ad4c$71feeb40$f6aeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> References: <00e501c7ad4c$71feeb40$f6aeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706122141m485ae049r33527769ed139e72@mail.gmail.com> On some wheels you push the center motif some and turn it CCW about 1/3 turn to get it out. Do you have a pic of the wheel? If we can ID it then we can probably get better removal directions. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jun 12 22:42:36 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 22:42:36 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Help for web sources.... In-Reply-To: <466EECCB.1463.6D377DE@dmg.bossig.com> References: <466EECCB.1463.6D377DE@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706122142m3560bfcal5257d53b68797f57@mail.gmail.com> www.nosimport.com From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Tue Jun 12 22:49:28 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 21:49:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks - Titled as 1960 References: Message-ID: <001701c7ad76$3ae3c3e0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Well, now you can take off that BMC 61 tag. It's a 60 now!! Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Sailer" To: "Spridget List" Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 7:44 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks - Titled as 1960 > Thanks to all for your input. I titled the car according to the build date as > a 1960. I was curious though of what to do based on the BMC 61 tag. > > Cheers. > > Jim Sailer > 60 Frogeye > 66 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From Daniel1312 at aol.com Wed Jun 13 01:18:55 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 03:18:55 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap Message-ID: Pozidrive or Phillips pan head? Enquiring minds want to know! In a message dated 13/06/07 03:06:20 GMT Daylight Time, soavero at yahoo.com writes: > Replace the bolts with pan head screws and use your > cordless screw gun. From Daniel1312 at aol.com Wed Jun 13 01:22:07 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 03:22:07 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Main bearing caps 1275 Message-ID: I'll bet you have a pillar drill and haven't seen any of my metalworking skills... Supplmentary question - can Cobalt drill bits be sharpened much the same a regular drill bits? Regards Daniel1312 In a message dated 13/06/07 03:13:49 GMT Daylight Time, soavero at yahoo.com writes: > Drilling and tapping was nowhere near $80 worth > of aggravation! From Daniel1312 at aol.com Wed Jun 13 01:23:20 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 03:23:20 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Help for web sources.... Message-ID: www.aptfast.com From wsthompson at thicko.com Wed Jun 13 05:24:22 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 06:24:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ok, who tech'd this car? Message-ID: <000d01c7adad$66a07e10$33e17a30$@com> http://www.teamjamoto.com/dixeregionpage.htm#v8301600 Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From Daniel1312 at aol.com Wed Jun 13 05:40:35 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 07:40:35 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] ok, who tech'd this car? Message-ID: I'm a tech official and it wasn't me. On my first meeting as a licencsed tech official I sent a car away because the wheels weren't tightened and it simply wasn't ready for inspection. Note, that in my 2 years of training I had never seen a car rejected in that manner so it was a big thing for me. Once had a car lose a wheel that I had done the tech on. However, it turned out the driver changed the wheels between tech and practice and racing. After he swapped the wheels he forget to torque them up. The first nut works loose and then the rest shear. Have seen a big racing slick, wheel, brake caliper & disc clear a 12 foot catch fence at NIGHT after a hub failed. Daniel1312 - working at home today! In a message dated 13/06/07 12:24:35 GMT Daylight Time, wsthompson at thicko.com writes: > http://www.teamjamoto.com/dixeregionpage.htm#v8301600 > > > > > > Wm. Severin Thompson From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Wed Jun 13 05:45:22 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 06:45:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ok, who tech'd this car? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8a336b9d0706130445w30045786m5fad8ad311650f61@mail.gmail.com> I heard he had torqued the lugs, but was using "the wrong ones" so perhaps wrong thread pitch or something of that nature. On 6/13/07, Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: > > I'm a tech official and it wasn't me. On my first meeting as a licencsed > tech official I sent a car away because the wheels weren't tightened and > it > simply wasn't ready for inspection. Note, that in my 2 years of training > I had > never seen a car rejected in that manner so it was a big thing for me. > > Once had a car lose a wheel that I had done the tech on. However, it > turned > out the driver changed the wheels between tech and practice and > racing. After > he swapped the wheels he forget to torque them up. The first nut works > loose > and then the rest shear. > > Have seen a big racing slick, wheel, brake caliper & disc clear a 12 foot > catch fence at NIGHT after a hub failed. > > Daniel1312 - working at home today! > > In a message dated 13/06/07 12:24:35 GMT Daylight Time, > wsthompson at thicko.com > writes: > > > > http://www.teamjamoto.com/dixeregionpage.htm#v8301600 > > > > > > > > > > > > Wm. Severin Thompson > _______________________________________________ > thefirebuilds at gmail.com > > -- > http://btdtracing.com > 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata > 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 > > "And what are we doing drinking Cow's milk anyway A cow's not our mother. > And did you notice people are starting to look more and more like Cow's > every year." - Ron Bennington From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jun 13 06:22:45 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 07:22:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ok, who tech'd this car? References: Message-ID: <002201c7adb5$8d035480$0401a8c0@midget> I am not buying the "wrong lugnuts" theory. If he had "torqued them up", they would not have walked off. The studs would have sheared, but the video plainly shows lugnuts on the ground with nothing in them. For all four wheels to have come off at once, he had to have merely started the nuts and walked away. He also HAD to have noticed that soomething wasn't right as he pulled up to the line. I am betting that this was his first event where he changed tires at the track. David Lieb From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Wed Jun 13 06:26:00 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 07:26:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ok, who tech'd this car? In-Reply-To: <002201c7adb5$8d035480$0401a8c0@midget> References: <002201c7adb5$8d035480$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0706130526k165fc69fia4cc2270d6a5ecb3@mail.gmail.com> I like that the brake lights are on when it stops... with no wheels On 6/13/07, David Lieb wrote: > > I am not buying the "wrong lugnuts" theory. If he had "torqued them up", > they would not have walked off. The studs would have sheared, but the > video > plainly shows lugnuts on the ground with nothing in them. For all four > wheels to have come off at once, he had to have merely started the nuts > and > walked away. He also HAD to have noticed that soomething wasn't right as > he > pulled up to the line. I am betting that this was his first event where he > changed tires at the track. > David Lieb > _______________________________________________ > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 "And what are we doing drinking Cow's milk anyway A cow's not our mother. And did you notice people are starting to look more and more like Cow's every year." - Ron Bennington From wsthompson at thicko.com Wed Jun 13 07:25:15 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 08:25:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ok, who tech'd this car? In-Reply-To: <002201c7adb5$8d035480$0401a8c0@midget> References: <002201c7adb5$8d035480$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <000301c7adbe$49f9af00$dded0d00$@com> Might be too long of a shoulder on the lug nuts. They "torqued up" by bottoming out, but did not fasten the wheels tightly to the hubs. I was that nearly 15 years ago with a guy on the British Race Group Team, in a TR4 with a surrey style hardtop. He lost a rear wheel coming in to 7 at Blackhawk and totaled the car when it rolled. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 7:23 AM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ok, who tech'd this car? I am not buying the "wrong lugnuts" theory. If he had "torqued them up", they would not have walked off. The studs would have sheared, but the video plainly shows lugnuts on the ground with nothing in them. For all four wheels to have come off at once, he had to have merely started the nuts and walked away. He also HAD to have noticed that soomething wasn't right as he pulled up to the line. I am betting that this was his first event where he changed tires at the track. David Lieb From jlaird237 at cox.net Wed Jun 13 07:31:07 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 08:31:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ok, who tech'd this car? References: <002201c7adb5$8d035480$0401a8c0@midget> <000301c7adbe$49f9af00$dded0d00$@com> Message-ID: <000c01c7adbf$192d0c90$6401a8c0@personal> Agree, poor maintance practices. Lugs were started and not tight. Always the last thing checked before hitting the track each and every time. Bet he never forgets again. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: "'David Lieb'" ; "'Spridgets'" Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ok, who tech'd this car? > Might be too long of a shoulder on the lug nuts. They "torqued up" by > bottoming out, but did not fasten the wheels tightly to the hubs. I was > that > nearly 15 years ago with a guy on the British Race Group Team, in a TR4 > with > a surrey style hardtop. He lost a rear wheel coming in to 7 at Blackhawk > and > totaled the car when it rolled. > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 7:23 AM > To: Spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ok, who tech'd this car? > > I am not buying the "wrong lugnuts" theory. If he had "torqued them up", > they would not have walked off. The studs would have sheared, but the > video > plainly shows lugnuts on the ground with nothing in them. For all four > wheels to have come off at once, he had to have merely started the nuts > and > walked away. He also HAD to have noticed that soomething wasn't right as > he > pulled up to the line. I am betting that this was his first event where he > changed tires at the track. > David Lieb > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.14/845 - Release Date: 6/12/2007 > 6:39 AM From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 13 07:40:44 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 07:40:44 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706130640v17189ff8x4a74cee46187dea0@mail.gmail.com> Yeah, and what if they're underprivileged and only have corded screw guns? Can they use manual tools? See, I'm not the only one around here with a (bad) sense of humor. On 6/13/07, Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: > Pozidrive or Phillips pan head? Enquiring minds want to know! > > In a message dated 13/06/07 03:06:20 GMT Daylight Time, soavero at yahoo.com > writes: > > > > Replace the bolts with pan head screws and use your > > cordless screw gun. From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 13 07:45:06 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 07:45:06 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Main bearing caps 1275 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706130645k1bfc4b2ayb73ae3ae55d7422f@mail.gmail.com> Yes, Cobalt, HSS, whatever, all succumb to the grinding wheel. A Drill Doctor will make them all sharp. English:American translation: "Pillar drill" is what we yanks call "drill press", I think. From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 13 07:51:15 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 07:51:15 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] ok, who tech'd this car? In-Reply-To: <000301c7adbe$49f9af00$dded0d00$@com> References: <002201c7adb5$8d035480$0401a8c0@midget> <000301c7adbe$49f9af00$dded0d00$@com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706130651g7e2480f7ofd30f5e3bd7d28e6@mail.gmail.com> I like your idea of the shoulder being too long. I was thinking he bought cheap lug nuts and over-torqued them. Some studs sheared and some maybe just stripped and let the lug nuts slide off. I've seen a video of that TR4 crash. I thought that TR4 broke an axle. Great video, the guy trashes the car and when he catches his breath he says something like "Well, that sucks." On 6/13/07, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > Might be too long of a shoulder on the lug nuts. They "torqued up" by > bottoming out, but did not fasten the wheels tightly to the hubs. I was that > nearly 15 years ago with a guy on the British Race Group Team, in a TR4 with > a surrey style hardtop. He lost a rear wheel coming in to 7 at Blackhawk and > totaled the car when it rolled. From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 13 07:57:06 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 07:57:06 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] ok, who tech'd this car? In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706130651g7e2480f7ofd30f5e3bd7d28e6@mail.gmail.com> References: <002201c7adb5$8d035480$0401a8c0@midget> <000301c7adbe$49f9af00$dded0d00$@com> <5f00d9910706130651g7e2480f7ofd30f5e3bd7d28e6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706130657j11f8c403ncdf3159fd2f4a71e@mail.gmail.com> This is the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk3-jd6tn18 From wsthompson at thicko.com Wed Jun 13 07:59:13 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 08:59:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ok, who tech'd this car? In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706130651g7e2480f7ofd30f5e3bd7d28e6@mail.gmail.com> References: <002201c7adb5$8d035480$0401a8c0@midget> <000301c7adbe$49f9af00$dded0d00$@com> <5f00d9910706130651g7e2480f7ofd30f5e3bd7d28e6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001001c7adc3$08180b90$184822b0$@com> No, that was a different crash.... the one you refer to was Tony Drews at Road America, and was indeed a broken axle. That took place about 5 years ago. The one I referred to took place at Blackhawk Farms. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of derf Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 8:51 AM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ok, who tech'd this car? I like your idea of the shoulder being too long. I was thinking he bought cheap lug nuts and over-torqued them. Some studs sheared and some maybe just stripped and let the lug nuts slide off. I've seen a video of that TR4 crash. I thought that TR4 broke an axle. Great video, the guy trashes the car and when he catches his breath he says something like "Well, that sucks." On 6/13/07, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > Might be too long of a shoulder on the lug nuts. They "torqued up" by > bottoming out, but did not fasten the wheels tightly to the hubs. I was that > nearly 15 years ago with a guy on the British Race Group Team, in a TR4 with > a surrey style hardtop. He lost a rear wheel coming in to 7 at Blackhawk and > totaled the car when it rolled. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Jun 13 08:00:04 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 10:00:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap Message-ID: <20070613140004.CYOL875.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Welcome to the club! :) But, what he said was "cordless screw gun". I've never seen a corded screw, nor a gun made for it. I thought all screws were cordless. Now that's a bad sense of humour!! :( I try to suppress it a bit. Be thankful you can't here my poor Groucho impersonation also. RD > From: derf > > Yeah, and what if they're underprivileged and only have corded screw > guns? Can they use manual tools? > See, I'm not the only one around here with a (bad) sense of humor. > > On 6/13/07, Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: > > Pozidrive or Phillips pan head? Enquiring minds want to know! > > > > In a message dated 13/06/07 03:06:20 GMT Daylight Time, soavero at yahoo.com > > writes: > > > > > > > Replace the bolts with pan head screws and use your > > > cordless screw gun. From millerls at ado13.com Wed Jun 13 08:40:02 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 07:40:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] TR Herald (NO LBC) Message-ID: <002e01c7adc8$baa83a00$d280bc43@HP> Anybody know the first year of the TR Herald? From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 13 08:57:02 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 09:57:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ok, who tech'd this car? References: <002201c7adb5$8d035480$0401a8c0@midget><000301c7adbe$49f9af00$dded0d00$@com><5f00d9910706130651g7e2480f7ofd30f5e3bd7d28e6@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910706130657j11f8c403ncdf3159fd2f4a71e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <006b01c7adcb$1b10ca40$6401a8c0@Larry> Different TR4. WST said his was at 7 at Blackhawk, this video is the carousel at Elkhart. ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ok, who tech'd this car? This is the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk3-jd6tn18 _______________________________________________ ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From hobbycars at cox.net Wed Jun 13 09:11:09 2007 From: hobbycars at cox.net (Jacques Le Clainche) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 08:11:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] TR Herald (NO LBC) In-Reply-To: <002e01c7adc8$baa83a00$d280bc43@HP> Message-ID: 1959, I believe JLC ----------------------------------------------------------------- Anybody know the first year of the TR Herald? _______________________________________________ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.14/845 - Release Date: 6/12/2007 6:39 AM From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 13 11:45:08 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:45:08 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] ok, who tech'd this car? In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0706130824h801e878l3cfd33c6a065cc05@mail.gmail.com> References: <002201c7adb5$8d035480$0401a8c0@midget> <000301c7adbe$49f9af00$dded0d00$@com> <5f00d9910706130651g7e2480f7ofd30f5e3bd7d28e6@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910706130657j11f8c403ncdf3159fd2f4a71e@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0706130824h801e878l3cfd33c6a065cc05@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706131045t71b64538j3035b3d50ceda3d7@mail.gmail.com> Still a great video. I just can't get over the "Well, that sucked" sucks, whatever. From pvanwig at charter.net Wed Jun 13 14:02:18 2007 From: pvanwig at charter.net (Paul Van Wig) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:02:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Help for web sources.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002a01c7adf5$bf0272f0$9300a8c0@paula8e530ae64> I use Firefox and Foxmarks to prevent losing bookmarks http://en.www.mozilla.com/en/firefox/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2410 Paul Van Wig From hal at katemuir.com Wed Jun 13 14:53:33 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:53:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] All this flywheel nonsense????? Message-ID: Hey, How come the 950s, 1100s, and 1275s have different flywheels? Are they interchangeable? Which weighs in at the least? Hal From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jun 13 14:49:49 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:49:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap References: <20070613140004.CYOL875.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <00da01c7adfc$630f9d40$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > But, what he said was "cordless screw gun". I've never seen a corded > screw, nor a gun made for it. I thought all screws were cordless. And I have been using cordless screwdrivers as long as I can remember... From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 13 15:26:22 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:26:22 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap In-Reply-To: <00da01c7adfc$630f9d40$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <20070613140004.CYOL875.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <00da01c7adfc$630f9d40$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706131426h4cba4133j8dfff8325d2619e@mail.gmail.com> Yes, but were they Pozidriv? > And I have been using cordless screwdrivers as long as I can remember... From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jun 13 15:36:41 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 16:36:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap References: <20070613140004.CYOL875.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca><00da01c7adfc$630f9d40$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <5f00d9910706131426h4cba4133j8dfff8325d2619e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00e201c7ae02$eec0f860$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >> And I have been using cordless screwdrivers as long as I can remember... > Yes, but were they Pozidriv? I am not Pozitiv... From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Wed Jun 13 15:57:32 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 14:57:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] All this flywheel nonsense????? References: Message-ID: <01ae01c7ae05$d955d920$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Hi Hal, Some are interchangeable, sort of! The 948 is the heaviest at slightly over 20 lbs. Our favorite sought after 1275 comes in at about 15 1/2 lbs. Last comes the 1098 weighing in at it's corner with about 15 lbs The 948 and 1/34 main 1098 would be interchangeable but the clutch covers are not. So, if you want a lighter 1098 flywheel on a 948 you get the larger and heavier 1098 cover and disc to go with it. You also need the matching TO bearing for the cover. The 1275 will only work on a 1275 as it has 6 bolt holes and 2 alignment pins and doesn't match up with any other engine. The others have 4 holes. It also has a slightly different center hole that won't fit on any other crankshaft. The center holes of the 948 and 1 3/4" 1098 are 1.750" The center hole of a 2" main 1098 is 2". No surprise there! The 1275 center hole is about 1.7" All the engine crankshafts will have a matching machined area that mates with the flywheel for centering purposes. Sooo, if you want to put a 2" main 1098 flywheel on a 1 3/4" main engine, likely not a good plan as the matching area on the flywheel will be 2" and there will be only the bolts that center it. Not a good plan!! The flywheels, other than the 1275, are a cinch to lighten, so why not try that? Hope this answers some of your question Later, Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hal Faulkner" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 1:53 PM Subject: [Spridgets] All this flywheel nonsense????? > Hey, > How come the 950s, 1100s, and 1275s have different flywheels? Are they > interchangeable? Which weighs in at the least? > Hal > _______________________________________________ > pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Wed Jun 13 15:58:45 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 14:58:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] All this flywheel nonsense????? References: Message-ID: <01c101c7ae06$048c7860$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Hi Hal, Some are interchangeable, sort of! The 948 is the heaviest at slightly over 20 lbs. Our favorite sought after 1275 comes in at about 15 1/2 lbs. Last comes the 1098 weighing in at it's corner with about 15 lbs The 948 and 1/34 main 1098 would be interchangeable but the clutch covers are not. So, if you want a lighter 1098 flywheel on a 948 you get the larger and heavier 1098 cover and disc to go with it. You also need the matching TO bearing for the cover. The 1275 will only work on a 1275 as it has 6 bolt holes and 2 alignment pins and doesn't match up with any other engine. The others have 4 holes. It also has a slightly different center hole that won't fit on any other crankshaft. The center holes of the 948 and 1 3/4" 1098 are 1.750" The center hole of a 2" main 1098 is 2". No surprise there! The 1275 center hole is about 1.7" All the engine crankshafts will have a matching machined area that mates with the flywheel for centering purposes. Sooo, if you want to put a 2" main 1098 flywheel on a 1 3/4" main engine, likely not a good plan as the matching area on the flywheel will be 2" and there will be only the bolts that center it. Not a good plan!! The flywheels, other than the 1275, are a cinch to lighten, so why not try that? Hope this answers some of your question Later, Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hal Faulkner" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 1:53 PM Subject: [Spridgets] All this flywheel nonsense????? > Hey, > How come the 950s, 1100s, and 1275s have different flywheels? Are they > interchangeable? Which weighs in at the least? > Hal From Daniel1312 at aol.com Wed Jun 13 15:58:46 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 17:58:46 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap Message-ID: ME TOO and I have Phillips and Pozidrive but I'm not sure if I have any cross head. In a message dated 13/06/07 21:57:25 GMT Daylight Time, dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes: > And I have been using cordless screwdrivers as long as I can remember... From geowiz.sgy at cox.net Wed Jun 13 16:28:47 2007 From: geowiz.sgy at cox.net (James Pickard) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 17:28:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Need a couple of measurements Message-ID: I need someone to confirm a couple of measurements for me to insure my bug-eye is stock. What is the distance between the two chrome rear attachment points for the top or toneau? Mine is 26-7/8" point to point. And I have 41-1/2" center to center between the studs at the top of the windshield. Would someone be so kind as to verify these for me? Thanks. Jim Pickard B9473298 ('65 Tiger) AN5L/12109 ('59 Sprite) 2003 Mini Cooper Lafayette, LA From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jun 13 16:40:39 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:40:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] All this flywheel nonsense????? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > different flywheels? Are they > interchangeable? They are not interchangeable. They use different size clutches and have different numbers of mounting bolts. From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 13 17:02:48 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 17:02:48 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap In-Reply-To: <00e201c7ae02$eec0f860$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <20070613140004.CYOL875.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <00da01c7adfc$630f9d40$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <5f00d9910706131426h4cba4133j8dfff8325d2619e@mail.gmail.com> <00e201c7ae02$eec0f860$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706131602h69873e13g7a7a1495a7823869@mail.gmail.com> LOL. Now that is funny. On 6/13/07, David Lieb wrote: > >> And I have been using cordless screwdrivers as long as I can remember... > > > Yes, but were they Pozidriv? > > I am not Pozitiv... From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jun 13 17:03:59 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 16:03:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] All this flywheel nonsense????? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: There's a place near my shop that will make you a nice billet flywheel for under $200. I'm sure you could specify the weight. BZ From mconn2 at bright.net Wed Jun 13 17:46:40 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:46:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap References: <20070612.222347.2596.3.dmeadow@juno.com> Message-ID: <000f01c7ae15$1cb245a0$8baeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> David, I'd like to see those pictures, if possible. Thank you. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap > I've had engines in and out of our two race Midgets so many times I've > lost count. > > The slowest parts were often the slave cylinder (got a mod for that, too) > and getting the damned radiator out. Some time ago I fixed the shrouds > on both cars so that the top of the shroud and the radiator all come out > with four bolts. > > I cut through the shroud on either side a few inches from the top. I > made two small aluminum plates for each side to "repair" the cut, using > three bolts on each-- two to hold the plate to the bottom part of the > shroud and one to hold the top. I used T nuts on all of these so there > because you can't otherwise access the inside of the shroud. I also > replaced the two bolts on the bottom of the radiator with two studs. > > I remove the radiator by removing the two small bolts that fasten the > forward part of the shroud to the nosepiece on the car and the two bolts > that hold the small aluminum plates to the top part of the shroud on > either side. Since the studs on the bottom of the radiator are not > bolted to the bottom of the shroud, I can then just lift the radiator > out. I leave the two bolts that go through the top of the shroud to the > radiator in place, so the top part of the shroud and the radiator come > out together. > > Reassembly, as they say, is the reverse. > > I've got some pictures somewhere if you are interested. > > David Littlefield > > On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:29:02 -0400 "Deikis, John G" > writes: >> So, maybe one of you clever guys can give me some ideas for >> simplifying >> the radiator-and-shroud R&R on a stock-bodied Spridget. Seems like >> the >> way it wedges in above the little valence behind the grill, it >> doesn't >> need all those machine bolts and de-captivated captive nuts. Has >> anyone >> tried any simple modification? Vice grips? Zip-ties? Arc welding? >> >> >> >> It's a stock cross-flow rad with all the stock shrouding in place. > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mconn2 at bright.net Wed Jun 13 17:54:05 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:54:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1960 AN5 References: <00e501c7ad4c$71feeb40$f6aeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> <5f00d9910706122141m485ae049r33527769ed139e72@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001401c7ae16$20c4a420$8baeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> Derf, The car is living in Michigan at the moment awaiting prep work and painting. I'll be there this week-end, and will get a picture. I shall be glad to get it off. Thank you. I will also be removing the "sports muffler", and replacing it with an after-market copy of the original. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "Michael Conn" Cc: "spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 12:41 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1960 AN5 > On some wheels you push the center motif some and turn it CCW about > 1/3 turn to get it out. Do you have a pic of the wheel? If we can ID > it then we can probably get better removal directions. > Cheers, > Derf From mconn2 at bright.net Wed Jun 13 18:18:35 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:18:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] ok, who tech'd this car? References: <002201c7adb5$8d035480$0401a8c0@midget><000301c7adbe$49f9af00$dded0d00$@com> <5f00d9910706130651g7e2480f7ofd30f5e3bd7d28e6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <004a01c7ae19$8d32ca80$8baeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> Derf, When I was young, fit and playing Rugby in England, I quite often broke off lug nuts on my AN5 by lifting the car off the ground when making sure the nut was tight! Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ok, who tech'd this car? >I like your idea of the shoulder being too long. I was thinking he > bought cheap lug nuts and over-torqued them. Some studs sheared and > some maybe just stripped and let the lug nuts slide off. > I've seen a video of that TR4 crash. I thought that TR4 broke an > axle. Great video, the guy trashes the car and when he catches his > breath he says something like "Well, that sucks." > > > On 6/13/07, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: >> Might be too long of a shoulder on the lug nuts. They "torqued up" by >> bottoming out, but did not fasten the wheels tightly to the hubs. I was >> that >> nearly 15 years ago with a guy on the British Race Group Team, in a TR4 >> with >> a surrey style hardtop. He lost a rear wheel coming in to 7 at Blackhawk >> and >> totaled the car when it rolled. > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From millerls at ado13.com Wed Jun 13 18:21:00 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 17:21:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugzuki Update Message-ID: <00ea01c7ae19$e3969320$d280bc43@HP> Bugzuki is back from the paint shop. http://www.ado13.com/dohczuke/dohc.htm Top goes in for stripe on Monday. Larry Miller From dmeadow at juno.com Wed Jun 13 18:31:31 2007 From: dmeadow at juno.com (dmeadow at juno.com) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:31:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap Message-ID: <20070613.193131.3200.5.dmeadow@juno.com> Ed has kindly agreed to post some pictures and narrative on his website. He'll let us know when they are up. David On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:46:40 -0400 "Michael Conn" writes: > David, > > I'd like to see those pictures, if possible. > > Thank you. > > Michael > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:23 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap > > > > I've had engines in and out of our two race Midgets so many times > I've > > lost count. > > > > The slowest parts were often the slave cylinder (got a mod for > that, too) > > and getting the damned radiator out. Some time ago I fixed the > shrouds > > on both cars so that the top of the shroud and the radiator all > come out > > with four bolts. > > > > I cut through the shroud on either side a few inches from the top. > I > > made two small aluminum plates for each side to "repair" the cut, > using > > three bolts on each-- two to hold the plate to the bottom part of > the > > shroud and one to hold the top. I used T nuts on all of these so > there > > because you can't otherwise access the inside of the shroud. I > also > > replaced the two bolts on the bottom of the radiator with two > studs. > > > > I remove the radiator by removing the two small bolts that fasten > the > > forward part of the shroud to the nosepiece on the car and the two > bolts > > that hold the small aluminum plates to the top part of the shroud > on > > either side. Since the studs on the bottom of the radiator are > not > > bolted to the bottom of the shroud, I can then just lift the > radiator > > out. I leave the two bolts that go through the top of the shroud > to the > > radiator in place, so the top part of the shroud and the radiator > come > > out together. > > > > Reassembly, as they say, is the reverse. > > > > I've got some pictures somewhere if you are interested. > > > > David Littlefield From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jun 13 18:33:55 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:33:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I wanna count his fingers!!!!! In-Reply-To: <380-22007621252414783@earthlink.net> References: <380-22007621252414783@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <46708CF3.70806@comcast.net> Robert Bruce Evans wrote: >>Jim Johnson wrote: "He is exposing only one. Would you like to know > > which one it is? [:-)" > > No, you don't need to! I know him!!! Consider it an Italian salute Buster. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jun 13 18:37:20 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:37:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Root cause found - timing issue In-Reply-To: <462583.57238.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <462583.57238.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46708DC0.4070904@comcast.net> Ron Soave wrote: > Bonus question - why do the SCCA guys use bronze > distributor gears> They don't have brass ones. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jun 13 18:49:41 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:49:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] To Title as 60 or 61? In-Reply-To: <410-220076212201321359@earthlink.net> References: <410-220076212201321359@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <467090A5.1040604@comcast.net> Charles Christ wrote: > my 1959 bugeye is titled as a 1961. that is the year it was sold new. My 59 Bugeye is titled as a 66 cuz NJ-DMV are, oh nevermind ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jun 13 18:55:20 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:55:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <467091F8.1060309@comcast.net> Deikis, John G wrote: > Well we both tried talking with New Jersey accents...then we tried those > wife beater shirts, like Brando used to wear. We ordered strombolis and > cheese steak hoagies from a dago carry-out. We even put on fake gold > neck chains and loitered around the Caddy. Nothing doing! We could not > do the swap in 20 minutes. No way. Never. Maybe with a '48 DeSoto, but > not a Spridget. > > > > So, maybe one of you clever guys can give me some ideas for simplifying > the radiator-and-shroud R&R on a stock-bodied Spridget. Stainless 10/32 phillips (not Pozidrive) screws. But I never had any problems with the cross flow rads coming out. Did you guys have mexican cooks at the dago carry out? That would explain it. And fake gold, there you go. No guinea hot peper hanging off a real gold chain. Caddys are out, it has to be a black benz these days or nothing smaller than an Escalade (black of course) Don't you watch the Sopranos? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 13 18:58:24 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:58:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] To Title as 60 or 61? References: <410-220076212201321359@earthlink.net> <467090A5.1040604@comcast.net> Message-ID: <01a901c7ae1f$1df45700$6401a8c0@Larry> My 59 Bugeye is titled as a 66 cuz NJ-DMV are, oh nevermind ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ ============================ Never talk bad about Big Brother. Big Brother has big ears. And a big hammer. You didn't hear this from me. From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jun 13 19:21:33 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 21:21:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap In-Reply-To: <00da01c7adfc$630f9d40$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <20070613140004.CYOL875.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <00da01c7adfc$630f9d40$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <4670981D.5030406@comcast.net> David Lieb wrote: >>But, what he said was "cordless screw gun". I've never seen a corded >>screw, nor a gun made for it. I thought all screws were cordless. > > > And I have been using cordless screwdrivers as long as I can remember... Yeah me too because the corded screwdrivers have that funky one way plug on the cord. It's always the wrong way around. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jun 13 19:29:29 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 21:29:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Installing a new rocker panel on a MKII In-Reply-To: <205cef430706121538o2dc469ax196e3c91b90a28ae@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430706121538o2dc469ax196e3c91b90a28ae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <467099F9.40701@comcast.net> Linda It is easier and a better job to install the whole rocker. It is a structural panel. As Bud said, it is welded under the A post and rear dog leg. You can cut the post and get the patch piece, same with the dog leg or I have made my own dog legs, do watch cutting it into the wheel flare. A couple inches up, you may be able to slice it, bend it out of the way and fold it back with some finesse. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jun 13 19:40:01 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 21:40:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 9th car added to the driveway Message-ID: <46709C71.6000104@comcast.net> Not an LBC, this time it's a BBC (Bigger British car.) At least in country of originl. I just bought my wife an S Type Jaguar but this one has a 5 speed manual trans, not that funky automanual without a clutch pedal. I just drove it home from Atlanta, about 1000 miles and the car is perfect. It was used but with only 15,000 miles on it. The one in Utah fell thru but I did find another in Georgia. Driving the family car is going to be fun again. If anybody wants a Ford Five Hundred (Camry look alike) let me know. I have one that needs to go and it has around 20,000 miles on it. 2005. I have 9 cars in or around my driveway, some have to go! Spridgets, a Ford, an Austin A40, please, come buy a car will ya ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From wsthompson at thicko.com Wed Jun 13 19:43:58 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:43:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 9th car added to the driveway In-Reply-To: <46709C71.6000104@comcast.net> References: <46709C71.6000104@comcast.net> Message-ID: <002e01c7ae25$7bd57c40$738074c0$@com> Drive that new Jag out to Blackhawk this weekend. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 8:40 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] 9th car added to the driveway Not an LBC, this time it's a BBC (Bigger British car.) At least in country of originl. I just bought my wife an S Type Jaguar but this one has a 5 speed manual trans, not that funky automanual without a clutch pedal. I just drove it home from Atlanta, about 1000 miles and the car is perfect. It was used but with only 15,000 miles on it. The one in Utah fell thru but I did find another in Georgia. Driving the family car is going to be fun again. If anybody wants a Ford Five Hundred (Camry look alike) let me know. I have one that needs to go and it has around 20,000 miles on it. 2005. I have 9 cars in or around my driveway, some have to go! Spridgets, a Ford, an Austin A40, please, come buy a car will ya ;) -- Frank Clarici http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jun 13 20:08:21 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 22:08:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Need a couple of measurements In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4670A315.4070502@comcast.net> James Pickard wrote: > I need someone to confirm a couple of measurements for me to insure my > bug-eye is stock. What is the distance between the two chrome rear > attachment points for the top or toneau? Mine is 26-7/8" point to point. > And I have 41-1/2" center to center between the studs at the top of the > windshield. Would someone be so kind as to verify these for me? Thanks. Jim I just checked mine. 26-7/8 on the top clips And 41-9/16 on the top studs I may have been off a bit on the top studs due to that little loose end of the tape measure. But your numbers are right there. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Wed Jun 13 20:12:01 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 21:12:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Its home! In-Reply-To: <46709C71.6000104@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200706140210.l5E2A2j3029537@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> Well, after a few attempts this spring, its finally home. Here's the first shot of it in sunlight in 19 years. I think I have all the parts. Is anyone going to be going to the Sussex, WI car show? If anyone is in the area (only 4 miles away, and you'll probably pass by my place anyway using the main roads) I wouldn't mind a second set of eyes to find a good place to start. The first order of business is to roll it out Saturday and power wash the thing. I found cat prints on the roof. At least it doesn't smell like them. The last time I really got a close look at this thing was last fall when I joined the list. It appears older than I thought. I thought it was a 67, but the title says '66. It also has the older top. I still think the engine is the 1098, and it has a rib case. It must have been redone at one time though since its painted blue (right?) But its home. My garage feels so big. I can walk around it. Thanks- Chris Brookfield, WI From cfchrist at earthlink.net Wed Jun 13 20:49:34 2007 From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (Charles Christ) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 22:49:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] To Title as 60 or 61? Message-ID: <410-22007641424934343@earthlink.net> ROFLMAO! I REMEMBER THAT ONE!...... CHUCK. > [Original Message] > From: Frank Clarici > To: > Cc: Brad Fornal ; David Lieb ; Spridget List > Date: 6/13/2007 8:50:22 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] To Title as 60 or 61? > > Charles Christ wrote: > > > my 1959 bugeye is titled as a 1961. that is the year it was sold new. > > My 59 Bugeye is titled as a 66 cuz NJ-DMV are, oh nevermind ;) > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jun 13 20:55:05 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 21:55:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap In-Reply-To: <4670981D.5030406@comcast.net> References: <20070613140004.CYOL875.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <00da01c7adfc$630f9d40$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <4670981D.5030406@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0706131955x52e5ddbdt868401283710187c@mail.gmail.com> On 6/13/07, Frank Clarici wrote: > Yeah me too because the corded screwdrivers have that funky one way plug > on the cord. It's always the wrong way around. That just means you installed the plug upside down in the box!! Cheers!! Jim From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Wed Jun 13 21:00:37 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 22:00:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] To Title as 60 or 61? References: <410-22007641424934343@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <037101c7ae30$2f568110$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> Boy, was I EVER close to thinking you HAD taught yourself to use "some" CAPITALS, chuck - 'til I figured out you just used "Caps Lock"!!! LMAO!!! Anon From dwoerpel at wi.net Wed Jun 13 22:34:44 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 23:34:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Its home! In-Reply-To: <200706140210.l5E2A2j3029537@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> References: <200706140210.l5E2A2j3029537@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <4670C564.5060902@wi.net> Congratulations Chris!! Now the real fun starts! I remember how excited my son (age 11 at the time) and I were. We started the process by cataloging/labeling all the parts. Next I made a list of everything that needed to be done (or wanted done). Then checked with the CFO of our home (very important to come up with a good pitch to win the CFO over to your side). I began with the body work (I farmed it out, the guy was excellent but has, unfortunately, passed away. While that was being done my son and I worked on everything else. Important for us was, NO time limit; we didn't want to rush and do a hurry-up job. I'd love to come see it. I'll be gone this weekend to the F1 race and will return next Thursday; after that I could take a look at the car. Best of luck, Dave '59 :{) '59 MGA 1500 rdstr '05 MCS Burlington WI Chris Manuel wrote: > Well, after a few attempts this spring, its finally home. Here's the first > shot of it in sunlight in 19 years. > From pilotrob at msn.com Wed Jun 13 22:46:20 2007 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 04:46:20 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Bugzuki Update Message-ID: Gorgeous!! :) CapBob From hal at katemuir.com Wed Jun 13 23:32:39 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 22:32:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugzuki Update In-Reply-To: <00ea01c7ae19$e3969320$d280bc43@HP> Message-ID: Larry, AWESOME! Hal -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Larry & Sandi Miller Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 5:21 PM To: Bugeye; Spridget Subject: [Spridgets] Bugzuki Update Bugzuki is back from the paint shop. http://www.ado13.com/dohczuke/dohc.htm Top goes in for stripe on Monday. Larry Miller From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Jun 14 00:55:07 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 23:55:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap In-Reply-To: <467091F8.1060309@comcast.net> Message-ID: <424333.83338.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Frank Clarici wrote: > Don't you watch > the Sopranos? Frank, John's from Michigan. Sopranos is on the same time as the Red Green show (search youtube.com for it). Ron Soave "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain ____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ From refisk at chartermi.net Thu Jun 14 05:32:20 2007 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 07:32:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap References: <424333.83338.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <047301c7ae77$ab8156b0$6401a8c0@refisk> "the Red Green show"...........now THAT'S entertainment. :-) > > Frank, > John's from Michigan. Sopranos is on the same time as > the Red Green show > > Ron Soave From wolf.brent at gmail.com Thu Jun 14 07:08:39 2007 From: wolf.brent at gmail.com (Brent Wolf) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 09:08:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap In-Reply-To: <047301c7ae77$ab8156b0$6401a8c0@refisk> References: <424333.83338.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <047301c7ae77$ab8156b0$6401a8c0@refisk> Message-ID: <62b83300706140608u4e80c5bancf9321ff6a42de8@mail.gmail.com> Entertainment!!! It's "The Learning Channel" for duct tape. On 6/14/07, Rick Fisk wrote: > > "the Red Green show"...........now THAT'S entertainment. :-) > > > > > Frank, > > John's from Michigan. Sopranos is on the same time as > > the Red Green show From smarc at smarc.net Thu Jun 14 07:22:59 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 09:22:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap In-Reply-To: <62b83300706140608u4e80c5bancf9321ff6a42de8@mail.gmail.com> References: <424333.83338.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <047301c7ae77$ab8156b0$6401a8c0@refisk> <62b83300706140608u4e80c5bancf9321ff6a42de8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46714133.9080500@smarc.net> Low brow humor at it's best! Marc Brent Wolf wrote: Entertainment!!! It's "The Learning Channel" for duct tape. On 6/14/07, Rick Fisk wrote: "the Red Green show"...........now THAT'S entertainment. :-) Frank, John's from Michigan. Sopranos is on the same time as the Red Green show ___ From thcollin at mtu.edu Thu Jun 14 08:45:01 2007 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:45:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap Message-ID: <60313l$6ak8b@email.mtu.edu> Red Green. . . If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy. Keep your stick on the ice! My wife hates the program. Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From lists at woozy.com Thu Jun 14 08:59:41 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:59:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap In-Reply-To: <60313l$6ak8b@email.mtu.edu> References: <60313l$6ak8b@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <467157DD.7020809@woozy.com> I've never seen the show before but the stuff I just saw on youtube was really funny. Too bad we don't get it here in NC. Robert Timothy H. Collins wrote: > Red Green. . . > If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy. > Keep your stick on the ice! > > My wife hates the program. > > Tim Collins > 1966 AH Sprite > _______________________________________________ > lists at woozy.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jun 14 09:15:13 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:15:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap References: <60313l$6ak8b@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <00fd01c7ae96$cf13b090$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Red Green. . . > If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy. > Keep your stick on the ice! > > My wife hates the program. Maybe this, together with changing the oil in a Spridget, should be used as a spousal combatibility test? From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jun 14 09:17:34 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:17:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap References: <60313l$6ak8b@email.mtu.edu> <00fd01c7ae96$cf13b090$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <010201c7ae97$22fae070$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >> Red Green. . . >> If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you >> handy. >> Keep your stick on the ice! >> >> My wife hates the program. > Maybe this, together with changing the oil in a Spridget, should be used > as > a spousal combatibility test? In addition, of course, to the standard inquisitions regarding wheel chocks, beer, Frank Zappa, guns, cats, etc... From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 14 09:18:28 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 09:18:28 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap In-Reply-To: <00fd01c7ae96$cf13b090$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <60313l$6ak8b@email.mtu.edu> <00fd01c7ae96$cf13b090$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706140818k42e2a8ebh9e42b530e304b169@mail.gmail.com> Combatibility? Is that like compatibility? Sounds like a good relationship term. > > Maybe this, together with changing the oil in a Spridget, should be used as > a spousal combatibility test? From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jun 14 09:37:40 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:37:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap References: <60313l$6ak8b@email.mtu.edu> <00fd01c7ae96$cf13b090$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <5f00d9910706140818k42e2a8ebh9e42b530e304b169@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <010801c7ae99$f1932490$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Combatibility? Is that like compatibility? Sounds like a good > relationship term. Musta bin a freudian slip... Right! From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jun 14 09:40:21 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:40:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap In-Reply-To: <010801c7ae99$f1932490$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <60313l$6ak8b@email.mtu.edu> <00fd01c7ae96$cf13b090$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <5f00d9910706140818k42e2a8ebh9e42b530e304b169@mail.gmail.com> <010801c7ae99$f1932490$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <43840a7e0706140840j48b490d4xa43c0078888b35a5@mail.gmail.com> On 6/14/07, David Lieb wrote: > > Musta bin a freudian slip... Right! > Is that like a petticoat? Cheers!! Jim From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jun 14 09:43:37 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:43:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap References: <60313l$6ak8b@email.mtu.edu><00fd01c7ae96$cf13b090$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov><5f00d9910706140818k42e2a8ebh9e42b530e304b169@mail.gmail.com><010801c7ae99$f1932490$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <43840a7e0706140840j48b490d4xa43c0078888b35a5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <010c01c7ae9a$c698d590$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >> Musta bin a freudian slip... Right! > Is that like a petticoat? Yeah, only more translucent. From p.herder at cox.net Thu Jun 14 10:14:04 2007 From: p.herder at cox.net (p.herder at cox.net) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 12:14:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap Message-ID: <8305896.1181837644257.JavaMail.root@eastrmwml26.mgt.cox.net> On the other hand, it was my wife that got me to watch the show! I got her a t-shirt that has "Got Duct Tape?" on the front. Paul Herder also have a 1966 AH Sprite ---- "Timothy H. Collins" wrote: > Red Green. . . > If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy. > Keep your stick on the ice! > > My wife hates the program. > > Tim Collins > 1966 AH Sprite From nases at verizon.net Thu Jun 14 13:09:03 2007 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 15:09:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 9th car added to the driveway Message-ID: <005701c7aeb7$799cdd00$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> Pictures. We need pictures, and thanks Frank, now my wife wonders where her birthday Jag is;) Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa Subject: [Spridgets] 9th car added to the driveway Not an LBC, this time it's a BBC (Bigger British car.) At least in country of originl. I just bought my wife an S Type Jaguar but this one has a 5 speed manual trans, not that funky automanual without a clutch pedal. I just drove it home from Atlanta, about 1000 miles and the car is perfect. It was used but with only 15,000 miles on it. The one in Utah fell thru but I did find another in Georgia. Driving the family car is going to be fun again. If anybody wants a Ford Five Hundred (Camry look alike) let me know. I have one that needs to go and it has around 20,000 miles on it. 2005. I have 9 cars in or around my driveway, some have to go! Spridgets, a Ford, an Austin A40, please, come buy a car will ya ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From rbc_48183 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 14 13:33:00 2007 From: rbc_48183 at yahoo.com (roger cotting) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 12:33:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Conclave in VT Message-ID: <48877.11072.qm@web36407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Anyone on the list going to the Conclave in Burlington, VT ? 3/4 of the Bugeye Boys are going, Rick with the red rocket, Roger, with the new engined white striped car, and John, with his just done very early 1958. We'll be looking for you. Roger Roger Cotting --------------------------------- The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jun 14 13:40:32 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:40:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 9th car added to the driveway In-Reply-To: <005701c7aeb7$799cdd00$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> References: <005701c7aeb7$799cdd00$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0706141240p3d7faf93h635342c2ea01ce5c@mail.gmail.com> On 6/14/07, Phil Nase wrote: > Pictures. We need pictures, and thanks Frank, now my wife wonders where > her birthday Jag is;) Yeah. Thanks a bunch, Frank, ol' buddy! Since I told Carolyn what you were getting for Diane she has reminded me several times a day about the Jag that is still sitting at my credit union's repo lot..... Cheers!! Jim -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu Jun 14 15:31:08 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 17:31:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap In-Reply-To: <467091F8.1060309@comcast.net> References: <467091F8.1060309@comcast.net> Message-ID: Sopranos??? Have you ever seen a Russian mobster with a bad attitude running around the pine barrens half naked??! -----Original Message----- From: Frank Clarici [mailto:spritenut at comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 8:55 PM To: Deikis, John G Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap Deikis, John G wrote: > Well we both tried talking with New Jersey accents...then we tried those > wife beater shirts, like Brando used to wear. We ordered strombolis and > cheese steak hoagies from a dago carry-out. We even put on fake gold > neck chains and loitered around the Caddy. Nothing doing! We could not > do the swap in 20 minutes. No way. Never. Maybe with a '48 DeSoto, but > not a Spridget. > > > > So, maybe one of you clever guys can give me some ideas for simplifying > the radiator-and-shroud R&R on a stock-bodied Spridget. Stainless 10/32 phillips (not Pozidrive) screws. But I never had any problems with the cross flow rads coming out. Did you guys have mexican cooks at the dago carry out? That would explain it. And fake gold, there you go. No guinea hot peper hanging off a real gold chain. Caddys are out, it has to be a black benz these days or nothing smaller than an Escalade (black of course) Don't you watch the Sopranos? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jun 14 19:02:42 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 21:02:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 9th car added to the driveway In-Reply-To: <005701c7aeb7$799cdd00$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> References: <005701c7aeb7$799cdd00$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> Message-ID: <4671E532.30001@comcast.net> Phil Nase wrote: > Pictures. We need pictures, and thanks Frank, now my wife wonders where > her birthday Jag is;) For some reason, probably chinese, I can no longer save pictures to this hunk of junk computer. I go thru the motions but nothing is saved. It says it saves it as ???.jpg but where is it? It's NOT in the folder I put it in and a search on the computer says it "file not found" If anybody knows what is wrong with this thing, let me know. Meanwhile, the link to Di's Jag is http://tinyurl.com/2f4u3s -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jun 14 21:58:16 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 22:58:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 9th car in the driveway Message-ID: <43840a7e0706142058o53905d49u3d93da9803905685@mail.gmail.com> Frank, You have it backwards! Your problem isn't too many cars - it's not enough drive way!! Cheers!! Jim -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From conan at intrex.net Thu Jun 14 22:09:55 2007 From: conan at intrex.net (conan) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 00:09:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Its home! Message-ID: <200706150009.AA1946091666@intrex.net> Happy Day! :-) From that pic, this actually looks like a fairly solid shell to start from. Congratulations! Ed in NC From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Fri Jun 15 09:40:38 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:40:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 9th car added to the driveway In-Reply-To: <4671E532.30001@comcast.net> References: <005701c7aeb7$799cdd00$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> <4671E532.30001@comcast.net> Message-ID: <967DBB98-79FF-4E16-9460-0BE1CFD7DC5C@comcast.net> Funny.. that link says that the car may have been sold.. ;-) Lester On Jun 14, 2007, at 8:02 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > Phil Nase wrote: > >> Pictures. We need pictures, and thanks Frank, now my wife >> wonders where >> her birthday Jag is;) > > For some reason, probably chinese, I can no longer save pictures to > this > hunk of junk computer. > I go thru the motions but nothing is saved. > It says it saves it as ???.jpg but where is it? It's NOT in the > folder > I put it in and a search on the computer says it "file not found" > If anybody knows what is wrong with this thing, let me know. > Meanwhile, the link to Di's Jag is http://tinyurl.com/2f4u3s > > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _________________ From trevorwj at insightbb.com Fri Jun 15 10:40:10 2007 From: trevorwj at insightbb.com (trevorwj at insightbb.com) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:40:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Emblem question Message-ID: This may be the wrong group to ask but...I have nothing to lose. I'm trying to create a Healey graphic based on the bonnet badge of a sprite. Here is what I have so far: http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum/memberfiles/5834-healeycrest-smallproo f.jpg What the heck is the shield supposed to have on it. Peter suggested that they look like diamonds and salt shakers. Can anyone set me straight on what they are supposed to be or represent? Thanks, Trevor From trevorwj at insightbb.com Fri Jun 15 10:44:13 2007 From: trevorwj at insightbb.com (trevorwj at insightbb.com) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:44:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Emblem question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Here is the tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/2e2fju ----- Original Message ----- From: trevorwj at insightbb.com Date: Friday, June 15, 2007 12:40 Subject: [Spridgets] Emblem question To: spridgets at autox.team.net > This may be the wrong group to ask but...I have nothing to lose. > I'm trying to create a Healey graphic based on the bonnet badge > of a sprite. > Here is what I have so far: > > http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum/memberfiles/5834- > healeycrest-smallproo > f.jpg > > What the heck is the shield supposed to have on it. Peter > suggested that they > look like diamonds and salt shakers. Can anyone set me > straight on what they > are supposed to be or represent? From John.Deikis at va.gov Fri Jun 15 10:45:00 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:45:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706130640v17189ff8x4a74cee46187dea0@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910706130640v17189ff8x4a74cee46187dea0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I believe this idea requires one to remove both front fenders first in order to get at the heads of the screws (Posidrive, preferred). In that case, I corded electric drill with a screw bit should work well. And a generator at the track to provide power for the drill. And, while it's running, might as well power a little fridge to hold cool beers for after the motor comes out. -----Original Message----- From: derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 9:41 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap Yeah, and what if they're underprivileged and only have corded screw guns? Can they use manual tools? See, I'm not the only one around here with a (bad) sense of humor. On 6/13/07, Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: > Pozidrive or Phillips pan head? Enquiring minds want to know! > > In a message dated 13/06/07 03:06:20 GMT Daylight Time, soavero at yahoo.com > writes: > > > > Replace the bolts with pan head screws and use your > > cordless screw gun. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jun 15 10:52:53 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:52:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Emblem question References: Message-ID: <016901c7af6d$9f2c5fd0$6401a8c0@Larry> But, but... it doesn't say "SPRITE" on it. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Emblem question Here is the tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/2e2fju ----- Original Message ----- From: trevorwj at insightbb.com Date: Friday, June 15, 2007 12:40 Subject: [Spridgets] Emblem question To: spridgets at autox.team.net > This may be the wrong group to ask but...I have nothing to lose. > I'm trying to create a Healey graphic based on the bonnet badge > of a sprite. > Here is what I have so far: > > http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum/memberfiles/5834- > healeycrest-smallproo > f.jpg > > What the heck is the shield supposed to have on it. Peter > suggested that they > look like diamonds and salt shakers. Can anyone set me > straight on what they > are supposed to be or represent? _______________________________________________ ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From John.Deikis at va.gov Fri Jun 15 11:01:30 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:01:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap In-Reply-To: <010c01c7ae9a$c698d590$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <60313l$6ak8b@email.mtu.edu><00fd01c7ae96$cf13b090$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov><5f00d9910706140818k42e2a8ebh9e42b530e304b169@mail.gmail.com><010801c7ae99$f1932490$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov><43840a7e0706140840j48b490d4xa43c0078888b35a5@mail.gmail.com> <010c01c7ae9a$c698d590$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: I think you guys hijacked my thread! Slips? Petticoats? Freud???? I'm going to smoke a cigar and wait until you guys are done. -----Original Message----- From: David Lieb [mailto:dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com] Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 11:44 AM To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 20-minute engine swap >> Musta bin a freudian slip... Right! > Is that like a petticoat? Yeah, only more translucent. From spridget63 at verizon.net Fri Jun 15 11:21:26 2007 From: spridget63 at verizon.net (DANIEL WALTERS) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:21:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] On the Road References: <821868.98061.qm@web84314.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <205cef430706121544h25582fc3p2c40bf4da0c068e2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001d01c7af71$9b6b3c50$6700a8c0@am.med.ge.com> I think the automatic Carl speaks of is a B - Carl? Dan From trevorwj at insightbb.com Fri Jun 15 11:40:09 2007 From: trevorwj at insightbb.com (trevorwj at insightbb.com) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:40:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Emblem question In-Reply-To: <016901c7af6d$9f2c5fd0$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <016901c7af6d$9f2c5fd0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: See! I told you I posted it to the wrong group! ;-) Actually, the word "Sprite" is going to appear on another part of the graphic that will incorporate this bit. But, thanks for taking the time to look. Trevor ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Daniels Date: Friday, June 15, 2007 12:53 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Emblem question To: trevorwj at insightbb.com, Spridgets > But, but... it doesn't say "SPRITE" on it. > > LAD > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 11:44 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Emblem question > > > Here is the tiny URL: > http://tinyurl.com/2e2fju > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: trevorwj at insightbb.com > Date: Friday, June 15, 2007 12:40 > Subject: [Spridgets] Emblem question > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > > > This may be the wrong group to ask but...I have nothing to lose. > > I'm trying to create a Healey graphic based on the bonnet badge > > of a sprite. > > Here is what I have so far: > > > > http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum/memberfiles/5834- > > healeycrest-smallproo > > f.jpg > > > > What the heck is the shield supposed to have on it. Peter > > suggested that they > > look like diamonds and salt shakers. Can anyone set me > > straight on what they From lists at woozy.com Fri Jun 15 11:41:05 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:41:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] A couple questions Message-ID: <4672CF31.4040006@woozy.com> Hopefully tomorrow I'm going to have a small window of time to work on the Midget to try to get it back on the road after a week of being off the road. Last Friday afternoon it was really hot out here (in the hight 90's) and I was driving along at 55 mph when the engine cut out on me. The few other times that has happened I've been able to find the cause and get back on the road quickly but no such luck this time. It appears that there is no spark. I had a crane fireball hooked up to a 45D4. I took the 45D4 out and reverted back to the original 25D4 with points & condenser. This didn't help. I replaced the coil, still no luck. It's hard to tell (for me anyway) what's going on with this circuit in the Prospero diagram. Are there any connectors in this circuit that could have come loose other than the connections to the coil and the dizzy? The car had started up like a dream 5 minutes earlier, just one turn of the key and it fired right up. Its hard to imagine what happened in those five minutes that would have caused the complete loss of spark other than the usual suspects which I've already swapped out (dizzy rotor, cap, coil). The connections to the solenoid are all good and the car cranks fine. I noticed one other thing when I was trying to get it started in the heat last Friday; there are three connections on the front SU float cover. One attaches to the fuel line from the gas tank, another one attaches to a line that runs to the rear carb but in between there is another nipple that doesn't hook up to anything. When I cranked the engine in the heat, gas pumped out of this nipple. When I tried to start it at home another day no gas pumped out of it. What is this nipple for and is it supposed to do what it was doing? Thanks, Robert From wmgilroy at gmail.com Fri Jun 15 11:51:11 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:51:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] TVR back again Message-ID: <441250190706151051m40d6205du91186d390b769966@mail.gmail.com> See http://tinyurl.com/yt8tp6 From trevorwj at insightbb.com Fri Jun 15 12:12:38 2007 From: trevorwj at insightbb.com (trevorwj at insightbb.com) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:12:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Emblem question In-Reply-To: References: <016901c7af6d$9f2c5fd0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: OK, I think (based on info from another forum that those are wheat sheaves and mascles. But why are they on the Healey Sprite emblem? ----- Original Message ----- From: trevorwj at insightbb.com Date: Friday, June 15, 2007 13:40 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Emblem question To: Spridgets > See! I told you I posted it to the wrong group! ;-) > > Actually, the word "Sprite" is going to appear on another part > of the graphic > that will incorporate this bit. > > But, thanks for taking the time to look. > > Trevor > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Larry Daniels > Date: Friday, June 15, 2007 12:53 > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Emblem question > To: trevorwj at insightbb.com, Spridgets > > > But, but... it doesn't say "SPRITE" on it. > > > > LAD > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: "Spridgets" > > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 11:44 AM > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Emblem question > > > > > > Here is the tiny URL: > > http://tinyurl.com/2e2fju > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: trevorwj at insightbb.com > > Date: Friday, June 15, 2007 12:40 > > Subject: [Spridgets] Emblem question > > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > > > > > This may be the wrong group to ask but...I have nothing to lose. > > > I'm trying to create a Healey graphic based on the bonnet badge > > > of a sprite. > > > Here is what I have so far: > > > > > > http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum/memberfiles/5834- > > > healeycrest-smallproo > > > f.jpg > > > > > > What the heck is the shield supposed to have on it. Peter > > > suggested that they > > > look like diamonds and salt shake From type79 at ix.netcom.com Fri Jun 15 12:22:22 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:22:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Emblem question Message-ID: <28820272.1181931743171.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> This is just a wild guess but I'll take a stab at it. Because the Sprite was an Austin-Healey? jay fishbein wallingford, ct home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ -----Original Message----- >From: trevorwj at insightbb.com >Sent: Jun 15, 2007 2:12 PM >To: Spridgets >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Emblem question > >OK, I think (based on info from another forum that those are wheat sheaves and >mascles. But why are they on the Healey Sprite emblem? From trevorwj at insightbb.com Fri Jun 15 12:30:49 2007 From: trevorwj at insightbb.com (trevorwj at insightbb.com) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:30:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Emblem question In-Reply-To: <28820272.1181931743171.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <28820272.1181931743171.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Yes, it is the Austin crest ..emblem... whatever you call it, but what does is the significance. If it is a family crest, then what does it mean? Are there any heraldry buffs here? ----- Original Message ----- From: type79 at ix.netcom.com Date: Friday, June 15, 2007 14:22 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Emblem question To: spridgets at autox.team.net > This is just a wild guess but I'll take a stab at it. > > Because the Sprite was an Austin-Healey? > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ > > -----Original Message----- > >From: trevorwj at insightbb.com > >Sent: Jun 15, 2007 2:12 PM > >To: Spridgets > >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Emblem question > > > >OK, I think (based on info from another forum that those are > wheat sheaves and > From redmidget72 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 15 12:43:21 2007 From: redmidget72 at yahoo.com (Red Midget) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:43:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] ***To sell or Not to sell?*** Message-ID: <272711.14131.qm@web51908.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I have posted pictures of Bobbie MG on the midgetsprite Yahoo group site. See folder "1972 RWA Midget". I have worked on the car so very little in the last 2 years. First I was diagnosed with Lymphoma and had to undergo surgery, and cancer treatments. Then I have been busy just recovering and trying to take care of my house, my health, my job, etc... I don't want to get into the long details of what all has been going on. The short story is I really like the car, have put a bit of money and a lot of time into the car, but just can't find the time, or money to get her looking and running as well as she deserves to. If I do go to sell, I need help in pricing her. The car is in Oak Ridge, Tennessee. What say Y'all? Thanks, Lon (RedMidget) --------------------------------- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Fri Jun 15 13:24:29 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:24:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Emblem question References: Message-ID: <002201c7af82$cbeb6740$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> The crest as it appears on the Austin Healey Sprite is the same as the one that appeared on Austins long before Healey. I would assume that it is the Austin crest. The diamonds stand for "constancy", if it is a skinny diamond, it could mean "travel and labour", as for the other symbol, I can't tell what the heck it is. Glen Byrns From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Fri Jun 15 14:17:54 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:17:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Emblem question References: <002201c7af82$cbeb6740$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <000c01c7af8a$41cfe600$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> If, as Treavor says, the other symbol on the Austin crest is a sheaf of wheat, then it represents "The harvest of one's hopes has been secured". So I guess the summary is that the Austin family "Secured the harvest of their hopes through travel and labour." Modern paraphrase, "Made their money selling cars" Seems to fit. Glen Byrns From type79 at ix.netcom.com Fri Jun 15 14:37:58 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:37:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] ***To sell or Not to sell?*** Message-ID: <12725389.1181939878678.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I have a hard time evaluating the value of these RWA cars, but for me the value lies in the condition of the tub. Excellent unrestored rot-free original cars can be found for $5,000 so you can use that as somewhat of a gauge. You could also check completed auctions on ebay. Many prospective buyers of Spridgets are interested in a project car. It seems that only recently have there been buyers willing to pay serious bucks for restored Bugeyes or certain later cars. (Sorry guys, I can't bring myself to call them square bodies or box Sprites.) :-/ I'll throw out a figure and guess your car is worth $2,000? but that's without knowing the state of the engine, gearbox, tub and other mechanicals. jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." Hunter S. THompson -----Original Message----- >From: Red Midget >Sent: Jun 15, 2007 2:43 PM >To: spridgets list >Subject: [Spridgets] ***To sell or Not to sell?*** > >I have posted pictures of Bobbie MG on the midgetsprite Yahoo group >site. See folder "1972 RWA Midget". I have worked on the car so very >little in the last 2 years. First I was diagnosed with Lymphoma and >had to undergo surgery, and cancer treatments. Then I have been busy >just recovering and trying to take care of my house, my health, my job, >etc... I don't want to get into the long details of what all has been >going on. The short story is I really like the car, have put a bit of >money and a lot of time into the car, but just can't find the time, or >money to get her looking and running as well as she deserves to. If I >do go to sell, I need help in pricing her. The car is in Oak Ridge, Tennessee. > What say Y'all? From d.swanson at earthlink.net Fri Jun 15 17:10:46 2007 From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 19:10:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] A couple questions In-Reply-To: <4672CF31.4040006@woozy.com> References: <4672CF31.4040006@woozy.com> Message-ID: <340D6FD1A3F24E6989FDDEA6A4A40E5C@HomeComputer> Robert, The third fitting on the float bowl is an overflow (incase the float sinks or the needle valve doesn't seal. If gas comes out there you either have a float that doesn't float, a bad needle valve/trash in the needle valve, or an aftermarket electric fuel pump that has too high a pressure. For your ignition, does your car have a working electric tach? Does it still work? If not, that should tell you something, I'm just not sure exactly what. Dean '62 A.H. Sprite mkII Holly Springs NC -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Weeks Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 1:41 PM To: spridgets net Subject: [Spridgets] A couple questions Hopefully tomorrow I'm going to have a small window of time to work on the Midget to try to get it back on the road after a week of being off the road. Last Friday afternoon it was really hot out here (in the hight 90's) and I was driving along at 55 mph when the engine cut out on me. The few other times that has happened I've been able to find the cause and get back on the road quickly but no such luck this time. It appears that there is no spark. I had a crane fireball hooked up to a 45D4. I took the 45D4 out and reverted back to the original 25D4 with points & condenser. This didn't help. I replaced the coil, still no luck. It's hard to tell (for me anyway) what's going on with this circuit in the Prospero diagram. Are there any connectors in this circuit that could have come loose other than the connections to the coil and the dizzy? The car had started up like a dream 5 minutes earlier, just one turn of the key and it fired right up. Its hard to imagine what happened in those five minutes that would have caused the complete loss of spark other than the usual suspects which I've already swapped out (dizzy rotor, cap, coil). The connections to the solenoid are all good and the car cranks fine. I noticed one other thing when I was trying to get it started in the heat last Friday; there are three connections on the front SU float cover. One attaches to the fuel line from the gas tank, another one attaches to a line that runs to the rear carb but in between there is another nipple that doesn't hook up to anything. When I cranked the engine in the heat, gas pumped out of this nipple. When I tried to start it at home another day no gas pumped out of it. What is this nipple for and is it supposed to do what it was doing? From duncan at pondhop.com Fri Jun 15 17:20:28 2007 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 18:20:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A couple questions In-Reply-To: <340D6FD1A3F24E6989FDDEA6A4A40E5C@HomeComputer> References: <4672CF31.4040006@woozy.com> <340D6FD1A3F24E6989FDDEA6A4A40E5C@HomeComputer> Message-ID: <008001c7afa3$c3d0ce80$4b726b80$@com> << It's hard to tell (for me anyway) what's going on with this circuit >> Robert, Check the low voltage side of the ignition first. Do you have 12V on both sides of the coil with the points open? With the points closed you should see 12V on one side and 0V on the other Thanks Duncan From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Jun 15 18:09:17 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:09:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] FW bonnet for sale Message-ID: <87335.55106.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> >From the SCCA boards - just passing it along. http://prodracing.com/prodcar/viewtopic.php?t=7898 Ron Soave "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain ____________________________________________________________________________________ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Fri Jun 15 18:05:13 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:05:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] To Title as 60 or 61? In-Reply-To: <00f301c7ad1f$3239f900$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <71581.85651.qm@web38915.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I agree with Paul. This was common in the 60's to have a car that was made in 58 and not sold till 60 or 61. I have a Morris that Paul told me he though the production date was 58. But the car is registered as a 61. I had several BMW air cooled cars that this was the case too. Even today you can buy a 07 in 06 so the car was made in 06 or even possibly some of the parts in 05 or earlier. Vigil Paul Asgeirsson wrote: That black plastic tag that might say "BMC 61", was nothing but retagging a car that wasn't selling. No one wanted to buy a one year old "New" car so this was the fix. I have a Morris Minor van that has that same tag, screwed onto the end of the original tag on the firewall. FWIW, Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Biff Jones" To: "Spridget List" Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] To Title as 60 or 61? > Jim, > > Although there were no Bugeyes (US export) built I would lean towards '61 > only because you have the original BMC black tag for it. Otherwise I would > say '60. Your car was most likely a leftover from 1960 and as already > pointed out tag with the BMC sticker to make it appear as a 'new' 1961 car > when it was sold. Just my opinion. > > Biff Jones > 'Frogarri' '59 Bugeye > 'Ole Gray' '61 AH Sprite > http://sprites2.homestead.com/ > _______________________________________________ > pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _______________________________________________ uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. From herby at herbytoys.com Fri Jun 15 19:41:33 2007 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 18:41:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FW bonnet for sale In-Reply-To: <87335.55106.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001601c7afb7$79c491f0$6501a8c0@HERBYZ> Mike had this (and some other Sprite stuff) on craigslist for awhile. Guess he didn't get any bites. Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com -----Original Message----- >From the SCCA boards - just passing it along. http://prodracing.com/prodcar/viewtopic.php?t=7898 Ron Soave "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jun 15 21:16:48 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 22:16:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] TVR back again In-Reply-To: <441250190706151051m40d6205du91186d390b769966@mail.gmail.com> References: <441250190706151051m40d6205du91186d390b769966@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0706152016s19bdda1cuc82a87bef0f82260@mail.gmail.com> Thanks for that info, Bill. I sincerely hope that the new owners can find a way to produce something on the lower end such as the original TVR Vixen. That charming little car with the 1600cc engine was an absolute joy to drive around the British Isles. In my first couple of years in England (late 65 - late 67) a mate and I chipped in and bought one that was a few years old. We drove it and raced it on weekends. It was nearly bullet-proof and an absolute ball to drive. Later Griffith put the damned V8 into it and created an unpleasant monster to drive. I dare say a well driven Vixen was easily a match for the overpowered Griffith on the track and we definitely proved it at Brands Hatch several times. Most weekend racers with initial excitement over the Griffith soon found that you don't win races sitting upside down in the weeds just off the bottom of what is now Graham Hill or at Clearways coming into what is now Clark Curve! "Thanks for the memories!" - Bob Hope Cheers!! Jim On 6/15/07, Bill Gilroy wrote: > See http://tinyurl.com/yt8tp6 > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Fri Jun 15 23:46:14 2007 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 22:46:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 3/4 inch master cylinder conversion for disc brakes Message-ID: Just wanted to let you all know I am getting a second round of requests for 3/4" inch converted master cylinders. The first batch was a big success and had numerous positive emails about the end product that was returned to the people who wanted it done. I had two done for myself as well. If you were on the fence about doing it or were wanting to "wait and see" or just hearing about it for the first time, please let me know if you are interested. You can learn all about it here: http://gerardsgarage.com/Garage/Tech/DbrakeUg.htm send e-mail to pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com with you questions or requests Gerard From wmgilroy at gmail.com Sat Jun 16 00:30:19 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 23:30:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 50 year time capsule Message-ID: <441250190706152330x1a5cf22fh8557ab0f1afe7786@mail.gmail.com> Check out http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19249855/ for a 50 year old time capsule that contained a 1957 Plymouth Belvedere. Pretty cool, I wonder who won. -g From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Sat Jun 16 01:21:42 2007 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 00:21:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Any ideas? (paint) Message-ID: <12A5082F-D181-4963-9614-CA6925F58B6E@gerardsgarage.com> I have a a couple full cans of the Moss Motors engine paint that will not release any paint. It's not the removable nozzle, but rather the can itself that isn't functional. I don't know if it's the valve that is not functional or if the siphon tube is plugged. I'm thinking if I could get the paint out, I could use it in my detail gun. Anybody have any tricks to get the paint out without making an explosive mess? Gerard From pilotrob at msn.com Sat Jun 16 02:53:26 2007 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 08:53:26 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Any ideas? (paint) Message-ID: You need to get some paint thinner/remover down in there to "dissolve" is my guess. I use a syringe to spread the stuff down in there without puncturing anything. Works about 50% of the time. From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Sat Jun 16 05:02:20 2007 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 07:02:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Any ideas? (paint) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070616070050.046338e0@littlebitcountry.com> Setup a couple of video cameras to preserve this event. Dave At 04:53 AM 6/16/2007, you wrote: >You need to get some paint thinner/remover down in there to >"dissolve" is my guess. I use a syringe to spread the stuff down in >there without puncturing anything. > >Works about 50% of the time. From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Sat Jun 16 05:31:50 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 04:31:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] ***To sell or Not to sell?*** In-Reply-To: <12725389.1181939878678.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <12725389.1181939878678.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Ya just did ;-) On Jun 15, 2007, at 1:37 PM, type79 at ix.netcom.com wrote: > (Sorry guys, I can't bring myself to call them square bodies or box > Sprites.) :-/ -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at bbl.med.upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU Sat Jun 16 05:39:18 2007 From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 07:39:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Trouble Shooting Tail Lights Message-ID: <770627D9-619E-46A8-958B-2BB251C40D4C@dartmouth.edu> Hey Guys, I have sorted through most of the lighting issues on my '79 and have the following problems left: No brake lights and The rear right lights - marker, tail, brake do not work though the right hand turn signal does work. So before I tear into the brake switch and taking apart the harness in that quarter is there something simple I can check - I will be running a new ground wire for testing later this morning - anything else I can check? The bulbs are good. Could these be related issues? The brake switch seems to be shorted - it has zero ohms resistance when the brake is not pressed - should it be open or closed normally? Thanks, -m From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Jun 16 05:48:46 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 06:48:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Trouble Shooting Tail Lights References: <770627D9-619E-46A8-958B-2BB251C40D4C@dartmouth.edu> Message-ID: <007a01c7b00c$4c9b22c0$0401a8c0@midget> > No brake lights > The rear right lights - marker, tail, brake do not work though the > right hand turn signal does work. Mark, I recently had occasion to discover that the taillights on the right side of the car and the taillights on the left side of the car are completely different circuits. If you ever wondered about the two fuses with the red wires, that is the answer... one is the right and the other is the left. If the front lights are working on both sides, it is not the fuse, it would then be likely to be a bullet connector sleeve by the RH windshield post by the glovebox. No brake lights is likely to be the brakelight switch, which is mounted on the front of the pedalbox in the engine compartment. There is a little tip on it which is supposed to pop out as the top of the brake pedal moves away from it. Usually, you can spray some silicone lube at it and patiently push it in over and over until it starts moving normally again. As you might expect, the new ones are not as good, so try to fix this one rather than replacing it. To remove it (if you so choose, not really necessary) you pretty much have to undo the screws holding the pedalbox in. Also, the distance that it is threaded in is critical; not far enough and the brakelights stay on (BTW, they only work with the key on, but you knew that...), too far in and the brakeline pressure does not release. David Lieb From bill at e-z.net Sat Jun 16 09:17:34 2007 From: bill at e-z.net (Bill L) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 08:17:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] outlook test Message-ID: <001201c7b029$77b2e930$0300a8c0@bill8bf29e81be> testing testing From Daniel1312 at aol.com Sat Jun 16 09:18:35 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 11:18:35 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] outlook test Message-ID: ok ok In a message dated 16/06/07 16:17:58 GMT Daylight Time, bill at e-z.net writes: > testing testing From bill at e-z.net Sat Jun 16 09:19:31 2007 From: bill at e-z.net (Bill L) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 08:19:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] outlook test TWO Message-ID: <001b01c7b029$bdb4f810$0300a8c0@bill8bf29e81be> test two... that's 2 From bill at e-z.net Sat Jun 16 09:25:44 2007 From: bill at e-z.net (Bill L) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 08:25:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] hmmm? (NO-LBC) testing Message-ID: <002201c7b02a$9bad9d70$0300a8c0@bill8bf29e81be> i am usually pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)... for the past several days, i have been unable to post to the list.. i'm getting mail, just can't send.... so i've tried two NEW accounts,.. sending from Gmail (which works if i'm on the web, but not through my email client).. i can send to anyone else, just not to the list... i thought it was a list problem, blocking my domain, so i tried new domains.. no results.. i've finally tried both a new account at a different domain, AND a new email client... the new client works.. (Outlook, which i HATE)... .. at least it'll work... ..now to sort my old client and see what happened to not allow it to send to the list... ..... hmmmm.. thanx for your patience while i test... From grday at btinternet.com Sat Jun 16 09:45:01 2007 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 16:45:01 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] hmmm? (NO-LBC) testing References: <002201c7b02a$9bad9d70$0300a8c0@bill8bf29e81be> Message-ID: <001501c7b02d$4d2ed440$19348a56@tairswork> Bill, fyi Two tests have been received before this one. I have always had to study long and hard before passing my tests and it seems as if you are having to do the same. :-) Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill L" To: Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 4:25 PM Subject: [Spridgets] hmmm? (NO-LBC) testing >i am usually pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)... for the past several days, i > have been unable to post to the list.. i'm getting mail, just can't > send.... > so i've tried two NEW accounts,.. sending from Gmail (which works if i'm > on > the web, but not through my email client).. i can send to anyone else, > just > not to the list... i thought it was a list problem, blocking my domain, so > i > tried new domains.. no results.. i've finally tried both a new account at > a > different domain, AND a new email client... the new client works.. > (Outlook, > which i HATE)... .. at least it'll work... ..now to sort my old client and > see > what happened to not allow it to send to the list... ..... hmmmm.. thanx > for > your patience while i test... From smarc at smarc.net Sat Jun 16 09:45:25 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 11:45:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Replace rear brake line Message-ID: <46740595.2050000@smarc.net> The rear brake hose on the 73 midget is perished, trying to remove it shows the brake line is seized to the nut. Been hitting it with Kroil for a couple days, wire brushing, gently persuading with wrenches, but it seems pretty clear that it's not coming apart with out taking destroying the brake line. I ordered a shop manual, but don't have it yet. How do you gain access to replace the line? Looks like that center pan drops out? Even up on stands, there just isn't much room to crawl around underneath... -- Marc From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Jun 16 09:48:51 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 10:48:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 50 year time capsule In-Reply-To: <441250190706152330x1a5cf22fh8557ab0f1afe7786@mail.gmail.com> References: <441250190706152330x1a5cf22fh8557ab0f1afe7786@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0706160848h68d955a9n3fa6a85cebfd3b6a@mail.gmail.com> OMG!! It's "Christine"!!! Cheers!! Jim On 6/16/07, Bill Gilroy wrote: > Check out http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19249855/ for a 50 year old time > capsule that contained a 1957 Plymouth Belvedere. Pretty cool, I wonder who > won. From BJ8Healey at msn.com Sat Jun 16 10:09:57 2007 From: BJ8Healey at msn.com (James Sailer) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 10:09:57 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fiberglass Frogeye Bonnet Message-ID: Good day all, I am in the market for a very good fiberglass bonnet (original frogeye style). I don't want to cut corners. I have reviewed Speedwell and heard they were above the rest in fit and quality. I would appreciate any input before I send off a check. Thanks. Jim Sailer 60 Frogeye From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jun 16 10:20:23 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 10:20:23 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 50 year time capsule In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0706160848h68d955a9n3fa6a85cebfd3b6a@mail.gmail.com> References: <441250190706152330x1a5cf22fh8557ab0f1afe7786@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0706160848h68d955a9n3fa6a85cebfd3b6a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706160920v703ab684s30325f9b39fe54a9@mail.gmail.com> Christine was a 58 Plymouth Fury. From pythias2 at gmail.com Sat Jun 16 11:25:42 2007 From: pythias2 at gmail.com (Bill) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 10:25:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] test of Message-ID: <1633166553.20070616102542@gmail.com> Hello spridgets, trying out not email virus scanner... -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias2 at gmail.com From pythias at pacifier.com Sat Jun 16 11:28:18 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 10:28:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] yet another test... Message-ID: <1662015496.20070616102818@pacifier.com> Hello Spridgets, no pause provider test 2 -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite "the red thing" (HAN8L 49403) If i didn't exist they'ed have to invent me From froggi60 at gmail.com Sat Jun 16 11:47:25 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 10:47:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 50 year time capsule In-Reply-To: <441250190706152330x1a5cf22fh8557ab0f1afe7786@mail.gmail.com> References: <441250190706152330x1a5cf22fh8557ab0f1afe7786@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10706161047s5bf7e4bfqa75ce82d5d00d6d7@mail.gmail.com> So who wants to donate the Bugeye? Concrete vault this time.... Wonder what our Country will be call in fifty years? From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Jun 16 11:54:55 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 12:54:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 50 year time capsule In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10706161047s5bf7e4bfqa75ce82d5d00d6d7@mail.gmail.com> References: <441250190706152330x1a5cf22fh8557ab0f1afe7786@mail.gmail.com> <2ad6c6b10706161047s5bf7e4bfqa75ce82d5d00d6d7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Mexico On 6/16/07, WFO Herb wrote: > > Wonder what our Country will be call in fifty years? From froggi60 at gmail.com Sat Jun 16 12:14:19 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 11:14:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Any ideas? (paint) In-Reply-To: <12A5082F-D181-4963-9614-CA6925F58B6E@gerardsgarage.com> References: <12A5082F-D181-4963-9614-CA6925F58B6E@gerardsgarage.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10706161114x3bf7a848x1735e54bf38a2c87@mail.gmail.com> Chill well (freezer for period of time), place in cardboard box, rubber glove & old shirt, place awl on top of can (off center), cover entire box with old sheet (doubled), and tap modestly with BFH. Drain into container of choice. WFO Keep the sticky side down! From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Jun 16 12:35:09 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 11:35:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Any ideas? (paint) In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10706161114x3bf7a848x1735e54bf38a2c87@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Life is too short/ paint is too cheap. Buy another one. > Chill well (freezer for period of time), place in cardboard box, > rubber glove & old shirt, place awl on top of can (off center), cover > entire box with old sheet (doubled), and tap modestly with BFH. Drain > into container of choice. From Daniel1312 at aol.com Sat Jun 16 13:10:55 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 15:10:55 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] 50 year time capsule Message-ID: Oceania? In a message dated 16/06/07 18:49:03 GMT Daylight Time, froggi60 at gmail.com writes: > Wonder what our Country will be call in fifty years? From rbc_48183 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 16 13:15:58 2007 From: rbc_48183 at yahoo.com (roger cotting) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 12:15:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fiberglass Frogeye Bonnet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9277.92268.qm@web36404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> WWW.Spridgetech.com in Brighton, MI makes a very good bonnet. Roger Cotting I am in the market for a very good fiberglass bonnet (original frogeye style). Roger Cotting --------------------------------- Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. From smarc at smarc.net Sat Jun 16 13:57:04 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 15:57:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Replace rear brake line In-Reply-To: <46740595.2050000@smarc.net> References: <46740595.2050000@smarc.net> Message-ID: <46744090.9050702@smarc.net> I cut the rear hose, and was able to loosen the hose's hold down nut enough that I could hold the flare nut stationary while turning the hose portion with a second wrench. So now it's apart and the brake line is still intact, but I still haven't been able to free the flare nut from the line, it's seized up pretty solid.. Unless I can get the flare nut to turn independently of the brake line, I might have just won the battle but lost the war... Short of replacing the brake line, maybe I could re-assemble it the same way. To attach the other end of the hose would require undoing the two brake lines from the splitter and removing the splitter from the axle so it can be threaded on the hose... Talk about doing stuff the hard way... Marc > The rear brake hose on the 73 midget is perished, trying to remove it > shows the brake line is seized to the nut. Been hitting it with Kroil > for a couple days, wire brushing, gently persuading with wrenches, but > it seems pretty clear that it's not coming apart with out taking > destroying the brake line. > > I ordered a shop manual, but don't have it yet. How do you gain access > to replace the line? Looks like that center pan drops out? Even up on > stands, there just isn't much room to crawl around underneath... From hal at katemuir.com Sat Jun 16 14:29:07 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 13:29:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Replace rear brake line In-Reply-To: <46744090.9050702@smarc.net> Message-ID: Marc, Remember, these are your brakes you're talking about! Take the time to do it right, please. Hal -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Marc Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 12:57 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Replace rear brake line I cut the rear hose, and was able to loosen the hose's hold down nut enough that I could hold the flare nut stationary while turning the hose portion with a second wrench. So now it's apart and the brake line is still intact, but I still haven't been able to free the flare nut from the line, it's seized up pretty solid.. Unless I can get the flare nut to turn independently of the brake line, I might have just won the battle but lost the war... Short of replacing the brake line, maybe I could re-assemble it the same way. To attach the other end of the hose would require undoing the two brake lines from the splitter and removing the splitter from the axle so it can be threaded on the hose... Talk about doing stuff the hard way... Marc > The rear brake hose on the 73 midget is perished, trying to remove it > shows the brake line is seized to the nut. Been hitting it with Kroil > for a couple days, wire brushing, gently persuading with wrenches, but > it seems pretty clear that it's not coming apart with out taking > destroying the brake line. > > I ordered a shop manual, but don't have it yet. How do you gain access > to replace the line? Looks like that center pan drops out? Even up on > stands, there just isn't much room to crawl around underneath... _ From smarc at smarc.net Sat Jun 16 14:33:38 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 16:33:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Replace rear brake line In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46744922.2030002@smarc.net> Absolutely agree, thats why I asked how you access the line to replace it. Does the middle panel that covers the drive shaft and tunnel come out?? Marc Hal Faulkner wrote: Marc, Remember, these are your brakes you're talking about! Take the time to do it right, please. Hal -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Marc Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 12:57 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Replace rear brake line I cut the rear hose, and was able to loosen the hose's hold down nut enough that I could hold the flare nut stationary while turning the hose portion with a second wrench. So now it's apart and the brake line is still intact, but I still haven't been able to free the flare nut from the line, it's seized up pretty solid.. Unless I can get the flare nut to turn independently of the brake line, I might have just won the battle but lost the war... Short of replacing the brake line, maybe I could re-assemble it the same way. To attach the other end of the hose would require undoing the two brake lines from the splitter and removing the splitter from the axle so it can be threaded on the hose... Talk about doing stuff the hard way... Marc The rear brake hose on the 73 midget is perished, trying to remove it shows the brake line is seized to the nut. Been hitting it with Kroil for a couple days, wire brushing, gently persuading with wrenches, but it seems pretty clear that it's not coming apart with out taking destroying the brake line. I ordered a shop manual, but don't have it yet. How do you gain access to replace the line? Looks like that center pan drops out? Even up on stands, there just isn't much room to crawl around underneath... _ From lists at woozy.com Sat Jun 16 17:12:00 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 19:12:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] A couple questions In-Reply-To: <4672CF31.4040006@woozy.com> References: <4672CF31.4040006@woozy.com> Message-ID: <46746E40.5020405@woozy.com> Thanks to everyone who helped me out with this problem. Using a multimeter I was able to figure out what was going on. The wire from the tach to the coil measured at best 4.5 volts with the key on. There was 12 volts +- coming out of the tach. The wire was cracked inside the casing right before the connection to the coil. It was a one minute fix that took me a few hours to figure out ;-) It's nice to be back on the road once again. Robert Weeks Bahama, NC Robert Weeks wrote: > It appears that there is no spark. I had a crane fireball hooked up to a > 45D4. I took the 45D4 out and reverted back to the original 25D4 with > points & condenser. This didn't help. I replaced the coil, still no luck. From bogodwin at bellsouth.net Sat Jun 16 18:13:55 2007 From: bogodwin at bellsouth.net (Bobby Godwin) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 20:13:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake lites and turn signal Message-ID: I have a similar problem to Mark, except mine is with the brake light and turn signal on the drivers side. The car is a 1960 bugeye and I know that it has the original wiring because it is a one owner car. My mechanic tells me that the wiring is so old that he cannot piece it. I don t want to have to replace the wiring harness when every thing else seems to work. Can someone tell me where I could tie a new wire on and run it back to the tail light that would give me brake and turn signal. The running lights on that side and all the lights on the other side are working fine. Any help would be appreciated. Bobby Godwin No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.17/850 - Release Date: 6/15/2007 11:31 AM From herby at herbytoys.com Sat Jun 16 20:00:05 2007 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 19:00:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] MOASF British Field Meet pix Message-ID: <000901c7b083$3ac79070$6501a8c0@HERBYZ> Took a few pix from the Mini Owners of America, San Francisco region show. It was a small turn out but some interesting cars. 2 Bugeyes, 1 Midget and my MK II Sprite filled out the Spridget contingent. http://www.herbytoys.com/brit_shows.htm Scroll/jump to bottom of the page. Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Jun 16 20:22:17 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 21:22:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone have......... (no list content) Message-ID: an old fashioned hardware store in their town? I just purchased an old Benjamin air rifle, .20 caliber/5.0mm. Our local Wally World pushed all the local hardware stores out of business, and all Wally carries is .177 and .22 If someone would be interested in looking at their mom and pop for me, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks, Brad -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From lists at woozy.com Sat Jun 16 20:42:40 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 22:42:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone have......... (no list content) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46749FA0.8040206@woozy.com> No Mom and Pop shops left around here anymore, last one closed up about a year ago. Closest thing now is the True Value. If you don't find one maybe this will do: http://www.airgunwarehouseinc.com/500cypeca.html Good luck, Robert Weeks Bahama, NC Brad Fornal wrote: > an old fashioned hardware store in their town? > I just purchased an old Benjamin air rifle, .20 caliber/5.0mm. > Our local Wally World pushed all the local hardware stores out of > business, and all Wally carries is .177 and .22 > If someone would be interested in looking at their mom and pop for me, > I'd really appreciate it. > > Thanks, > Brad From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Jun 16 21:16:23 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 22:16:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone have......... (no list content) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0706162016h1b742ferb1d1d93881664b05@mail.gmail.com> Fer Crissakes, Bradster. Buy a real gun willya?! ;-) Cheers!! Jim On 6/16/07, Brad Fornal wrote: > an old fashioned hardware store in their town? > I just purchased an old Benjamin air rifle, .20 caliber/5.0mm. > Our local Wally World pushed all the local hardware stores out of > business, and all Wally carries is .177 and .22 > If someone would be interested in looking at their mom and pop for me, > I'd really appreciate it. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Jun 16 21:28:56 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 22:28:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone have......... (no list content) In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0706162016h1b742ferb1d1d93881664b05@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0706162016h1b742ferb1d1d93881664b05@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Um, I live in Texas. I DO have real guns. As well as REAL cars.......... On 6/16/07, Jim Johnson wrote: > Fer Crissakes, Bradster. Buy a real gun willya?! ;-) > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On 6/16/07, Brad Fornal wrote: > > an old fashioned hardware store in their town? > > I just purchased an old Benjamin air rifle, .20 caliber/5.0mm. > > Our local Wally World pushed all the local hardware stores out of > > business, and all Wally carries is .177 and .22 > > If someone would be interested in looking at their mom and pop for me, > > I'd really appreciate it. > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Jun 16 21:30:14 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 22:30:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone have......... (no list content) References: <43840a7e0706162016h1b742ferb1d1d93881664b05@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00d501c7b08f$d19a49f0$0401a8c0@midget> > Fer Crissakes, Bradster. Buy a real gun willya?! ;-) Keerful whatcha say bout Benjamin air rifles. They were made in St Louis and were quite a piece of work. Multiple pumps for multiple tasks. My dad bought one in 1962. We had it rebuilt by the factory in 1972. It was just a .177 BB gun, but it would kill possums very nicely. I always meant to pick up the handgun version of it, but never have gotten around to it. I believe the company was acquired by Sheridan, but I see that the product still exists and apparently is still the precision brass instrument of yore. Hope so. David Lieb From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jun 16 22:56:28 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 22:56:28 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone have......... (no list content) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706162156hbdc9777k9d1c47c555901913@mail.gmail.com> www.pyramydair.com Airguns of Arizona is good, too. I have many air guns, but no .20s. I had one(a Beeman P1) but gave it away. I have a 9mm airgun that puts a 60something grain pellet through 2X4s. I have a couple of .177s, mostly for the kids. I prefer .22s. Last time I had to dispatch an Opossum, I used a .22 pellet rifle. From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jun 16 23:02:20 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 23:02:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone have......... (no list content) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706162202g1fc81fr7680400851f13ba4@mail.gmail.com> BTW, use mineral oil (Hoppes in the orange spary can is good) to lube that air rifle. WD-40 will kill the seals. Also, if you are into plinking or just want to have fun, any number of the airsoft 6mm plastic bb shooting guns are good. They are accurate, fun, and good for minor, non-lethal pest control, like keeping your neighborhood cat off of your car. The full auto guns are a hoot. Cheers, Derf From pythias at pacifier.com Sat Jun 16 23:33:10 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 22:33:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] testing yet again Message-ID: <1367026555.20070616223310@pacifier.com> Hello Spridgets, test -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite "the red thing" (HAN8L 49403) If i didn't exist they'ed have to invent me From pythias at pacifier.com Sat Jun 16 23:37:00 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 22:37:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] one last test of my antivirus scanner.. Message-ID: <1712716445.20070616223700@pacifier.com> Hello Spridgets, test and thank you for you patience all..! -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite "the red thing" (HAN8L 49403) If i didn't exist they'ed have to invent me From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun Jun 17 04:01:16 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 05:01:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Anyone have......... (no list content) In-Reply-To: <04eb01c7b0ad$696d73c0$22aa0644@internetpc> References: <04eb01c7b0ad$696d73c0$22aa0644@internetpc> Message-ID: This is actually a Benjamin Sheridan C9A series. From what I have learned, they offered 3 variants of the Silver Streak, .177, .20, and .22. Crossman obtained the company a while back, and pulled the .20 out of the lineup. This may account for Wally World only carrying the smallest and largest pellets. The .20 caliber is very old, but this particular model is not. The way I know is that they offer hooded peep sights for them. The older guns need to be drilled and tapped, but mine already has that done, thus, it is newer. It is a multi pump gun, rather than a single pump. Comments about that feature also abound on the reviews, but then, this is also good for selecting the level of severity you wish to inflict on your target. One or two pumps can put a sting on the neighbor cat's ass, or 5 or 6 pumps to kill yourself a new wheel chock. These are rifled, so though I may be able to find a bearing to work, I plan on using the lead pellets, so that I don't damage the riflings with a steel on steel application Oddly enough, www.cheaperthandirt.com still has the .20 for sale, in silver and blued (I called). They also have pellets, but it is almost $28 for 850 pellets. That just seems a bit high, thus my email to the list. The general consensus on many of the reviews I have read, is that the .20 was a great caliber, as it had the power of the .22, but with a flatter trajectory, due to the weight being closer to the .177. I was also not aware that Walther (of PPK fame) also makes a pellet rifle for match shooting, that is over $2000. JEEZ!! Get a REAL gun!! Right Jim?? My thanks to all of you for your many links and leads. Brad On 6/17/07, Robert D. Gardner wrote: > Brad, > > > > I have never heard of that. Is it really old? Really rare? Could it shoot > some kind of ball bearing? Do you pump it up like a pellet gun or one cock > like a Red Ryder Daisy? > > > > Bob > > > > _____ > > From: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com [mailto:midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of Brad Fornal > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 7:22 PM > To: TheDrams at yahoogroups.com; Drive by Truckers; Slobberbone; Yahoo Spridget > list; Spridget Mailing List > Subject: [midgetsprite] Anyone have......... (no list content) > > > > an old fashioned hardware store in their town? > I just purchased an old Benjamin air rifle, .20 caliber/5.0mm. > Our local Wally World pushed all the local hardware stores out of > business, and all Wally carries is .177 and .22 > If someone would be interested in looking at their mom and pop for me, > I'd really appreciate it. > > Thanks, > Brad > > -- > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/midgetsprite/ > > <*> Your email settings: > Individual Email | Traditional > > <*> To change settings online go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/midgetsprite/join > (Yahoo! ID required) > > <*> To change settings via email: > mailto:midgetsprite-digest at yahoogroups.com > mailto:midgetsprite-fullfeatured at yahoogroups.com > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > midgetsprite-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From pilotrob at msn.com Sun Jun 17 05:24:17 2007 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 11:24:17 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Anyone have......... (no list content) Message-ID: Whoa...a $2K pellet gun....how 'bout that! :) CapBob From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU Sun Jun 17 06:32:28 2007 From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 08:32:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Trouble Shooting Tail Lights In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Spent the day sorting out my turn signals, running and brake lights which worked intermittently if at all. I had to: pull the fuse box and clean the terminals and fuse connectors replace all the spade connectors and reconnect the proper wires to the proper fuses the above because of corrosion and a previous owner's botched attempt at fixing something.... the entire rear lamp sockets needed cleaning to ensure good ground I then removed the brake switch, opened it up, cleaned the innards, and then ground back the threaded portion about 3-4mm so that the push rod was in good contact with the brake pedal - re assembled, re crimped, sealed and remounted. Now I have all running and brake lights. Hazards are still not working but I need to pull the radio anyway and will get at those bits eventually that is all for another day. Thanks to everyone for their suggestions. -m From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Sun Jun 17 07:11:22 2007 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 06:11:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 9th car added to the driveway Message-ID: <064401c7b0e1$003e1fb0$2dca010a@mail2world.com> Frank, Congrats on the Jag. And I thought I had a parking problem with 5 cars (for 2 drivers) and no garage! -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Frank Clarici [spritenut at comcast.net] Sent: 6/13/2007 9:40:01 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] 9th car added to the driveway Not an LBC, this time it's a BBC (Bigger British car.) At least in country of originl. I just bought my wife an S Type Jaguar but this one has a 5 speed manual trans, not that funky automanual without a clutch pedal. I just drove it home from Atlanta, about 1000 miles and the car is perfect. It was used but with only 15,000 miles on it. The one in Utah fell thru but I did find another in Georgia. Driving the family car is going to be fun again. If anybody wants a Ford Five Hundred (Camry look alike) let me know. I have one that needs to go and it has around 20,000 miles on it. 2005. I have 9 cars in or around my driveway, some have to go! Spridgets, a Ford, an Austin A40, please, come buy a car will ya ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ _______________________________________________ From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Sun Jun 17 07:29:21 2007 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 06:29:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Replace rear brake line Message-ID: <06f801c7b0e3$83cc5660$2dca010a@mail2world.com> Marc, No, it doesn't - the floor pan is one large stamping, including the tunnel. It's part of what gives the tub it's strength. Now the brake line should be clipped under the seat re-inforcing channel that's welded to the bottom of the floor pan, and easily accessible from under the car. I'm not sure which side of the car, but if you trace the line back you should find it. The fuel line also runs under one of these channels. Both are clipped in to the side of the channel. If for some reason the brake line is INSIDE the tunnel, then a DPO put it there. It'll work fine, just not where it's supposed to be. HTH -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Marc [smarc at smarc.net] Sent: 6/16/2007 4:33:38 PM To: hal at katemuir.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Replace rear brake line Absolutely agree, thats why I asked how you access the line to replace it. Does the middle panel that covers the drive shaft and tunnel come out?? Marc Hal Faulkner wrote: Marc, Remember, these are your brakes you're talking about! Take the time to do it right, please. Hal -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Marc Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 12:57 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Replace rear brake line I cut the rear hose, and was able to loosen the hose's hold down nut enough that I could hold the flare nut stationary while turning the hose portion with a second wrench. So now it's apart and the brake line is still intact, but I still haven't been able to free the flare nut from the line, it's seized up pretty solid.. Unless I can get the flare nut to turn independently of the brake line, I might have just won the battle but lost the war... Short of replacing the brake line, maybe I could re-assemble it the same way. To attach the other end of the hose would require undoing the two brake lines from the splitter and removing the splitter from the axle so it can be threaded on the hose... Talk about doing stuff the hard way... Marc The rear brake hose on the 73 midget is perished, trying to remove it shows the brake line is seized to the nut. Been hitting it with Kroil for a couple days, wire brushing, gently persuading with wrenches, but it seems pretty clear that it's not coming apart with out taking destroying the brake line. I ordered a shop manual, but don't have it yet. How do you gain access to replace the line? Looks like that center pan drops out? Even up on stands, there just isn't much room to crawl around underneath... _ _______________________________________________ cbking at alum.rpi.edu Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets . From smarc at smarc.net Sun Jun 17 07:39:13 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 09:39:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Replace rear brake line In-Reply-To: <06f801c7b0e3$83cc5660$2dca010a@mail2world.com> References: <06f801c7b0e3$83cc5660$2dca010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: <46753981.3010309@smarc.net> Chris - Yes, thank you! - this is helpful. Apparently I have been DPO'ed... Are the brake lines sold in retail stores compatible? Can someone educate me on the flare type(s) required? I only have a VB Midget catalog at the moment, I see they sell some lines and an adapter - What is that for? Marc Chris King wrote: Marc, No, it doesn't - the floor pan is one large stamping, including the tunnel. It's part of what gives the tub it's strength. Now the brake line should be clipped under the seat re-inforcing channel that's welded to the bottom of the floor pan, and easily accessible from under the car. I'm not sure which side of the car, but if you trace the line back you should find it. The fuel line also runs under one of these channels. Both are clipped in to the side of the channel. If for some reason the brake line is INSIDE the tunnel, then a DPO put it there. It'll work fine, just not where it's supposed to be. HTH -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> Absolutely agree, thats why I asked how you access the line to replace it. Does the middle panel that covers the drive shaft and tunnel come out?? Marc Hal Faulkner wrote: Marc, Remember, these are your brakes you're talking about! Take the time to do it right, please. Hal From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Jun 17 09:16:53 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 15:16:53 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] 50 year time capsule Message-ID: "Wonder what our country will be called in 2 years?" Depends whether people in the USA will take back their government or allow the current "of big biz, for big biz and by big biz" ($$$$) government to continue to run rampant. I mean... considering we can't always tell the "good guys" from the "bad guys"..... can you imagine us allowing basically unregulated Japanese/German immigration into the US during WW2? Well...we're supposedly engaged in a Global War on Radical Islamist Terrorism (during days of chemical, biological, nuclear WMD when so few can damage so very many) and we're still allowing Islamists in by the boatfful (while maintaing "swiss cheese" borders, btw.) Do 'ya think it might be more wise to hold off on the above temporarily 'til we win this war, then welcome them aboard later? I mean...HELLO!!! Or how about we quit forcing taxpayers to subsidize "slave labor" illegal immigrant wages? Cheap labor my foot. Cheap for the employer....at the expense of all other taxpayers! A "human Walmart", obviously. as we continue toward "third world, have and have not" slowly but surely. How about for the time being we just call ourselves "Land Of The Dumb & Dumber" considering the foregoing along with the fact a goodly number of us avigate down our nation's busy highways dividing our attention between driving and talkin'?? Geeesh!! End of rant. Back to Spridgets! :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pythias at pacifier.com Sun Jun 17 09:28:26 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 08:28:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] (No LBC) 50 year time capsule --into the future?! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1284340235.20070617082826@pacifier.com> Hello, the country won't have changed names in 2 years or 50, after all, Athens is still Athens, Rome still Rome, as they have been since BEFORE they acquired and lost Empire. .. but we are fighting human entropy here. we aren't yet AT the end of the republic, but the signs are ALL there. Any numismatists on the list? .. students of Roman History? GWB has been hard enough on the republic, and our standing in the world, and now the Supreme Court says NYC can sue countries, saying it can change what has been held as INTERNATIONAL law for CENTURIES!!!!!.. sad but true, republics don't last forever, they collapse from INSIDE. -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite From duncan at pondhop.com Sun Jun 17 09:41:46 2007 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 10:41:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Replace rear brake line In-Reply-To: <46753981.3010309@smarc.net> References: <06f801c7b0e3$83cc5660$2dca010a@mail2world.com> <46753981.3010309@smarc.net> Message-ID: <003601c7b0f6$0362abb0$0a280310$@com> Marc, Standard 3/16" brake line from the auto store will work but the flares will be wrong and probably the fittings. They pipe nuts need to be 3/4 X 24 with the step end. The pipe flares required are ISO/bubble flares and most US cars use double flares. You might be lucky. IIRC for the front to back lie you will need a male pipe nut on the front and a female on the rear to go onto the hose. Duncan -----Original Message----- From: Marc [mailto:smarc at smarc.net] Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 8:39 AM To: Chris King Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Replace rear brake line Chris - Yes, thank you! - this is helpful. Apparently I have been DPO'ed... Are the brake lines sold in retail stores compatible? Can someone educate me on the flare type(s) required? I only have a VB Midget catalog at the moment, I see they sell some lines and an adapter - What is that for? Marc Chris King wrote: Marc, No, it doesn't - the floor pan is one large stamping, including the tunnel. It's part of what gives the tub it's strength. Now the brake line should be clipped under the seat re-inforcing channel that's welded to the bottom of the floor pan, and easily accessible from under the car. I'm not sure which side of the car, but if you trace the line back you should find it. The fuel line also runs under one of these channels. Both are clipped in to the side of the channel. If for some reason the brake line is INSIDE the tunnel, then a DPO put it there. It'll work fine, just not where it's supposed to be. HTH -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> Absolutely agree, thats why I asked how you access the line to replace it. Does the middle panel that covers the drive shaft and tunnel come out?? Marc Hal Faulkner wrote: Marc, Remember, these are your brakes you're talking about! Take the time to do it right, please. Hal _______________________________________________ duncan at pondhop.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pythias at pacifier.com Sun Jun 17 09:42:39 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 08:42:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] (No LBC) 50 year time capsule --into the future?! Message-ID: <1577120286.20070617084239@pacifier.com> Hello Spridgets, the country won't have changed names in 2 years or 50, after all, Athens is still Athens, Rome still Rome, as they have been since BEFORE they acquired and lost Empire. .. but we are fighting human entropy here. we aren't yet AT the end of the republic, but the signs are ALL there. Any numismatists on the list? .. students of Roman History? GWB has been hard enough on the republic, and our standing in the world, and now the Supreme Court says NYC can sue countries, saying it can change what has been held as INTERNATIONAL law for CENTURIES!!!!!.. sad but true, republics don't last forever, they collapse from INSIDE. -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite "the red thing" (HAN8L 49403) If i didn't exist they'ed have to invent me From duncan at pondhop.com Sun Jun 17 09:45:10 2007 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 10:45:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Temp Senders Message-ID: <003701c7b0f6$7cb7c450$76274cf0$@com> This may seem like an unusual question but.. Does anyone know if the 1500 electric temp sender (or any other electric sender) will fit the spare port in the 1275 head? I am thinking ahead for EFI while I have the head stripped, I will get the port drilled and tapped to for a GM sensor if I need to but would like to avoid it if possible. Thanks Duncan From pdx.pete at verizon.net Sun Jun 17 09:55:06 2007 From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (pdxpete) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 08:55:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] (No LBC) 50 year time capsule --into the future?! References: <1577120286.20070617084239@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <001201c7b0f7$e06b0830$75046f47@DBKF4T81> ".. we shall meet the enemy, and not only may he be ours, he may be us." Forward to the Pogo Papers by Walt Kelley, circa 1952 "We have met the enemy ... and he is us." Earth Day poster by Walt Kelley, circa 1970 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill L" > Hello Spridgets, > sad but true, republics don't last forever, they collapse from > INSIDE. From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Jun 17 10:00:33 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 16:00:33 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] (No LBC) 50 year time capsule --into the future?! Message-ID: "they collapse from the inside" YEP..... the Soviet Union could never, in their best days, have "done the job" as well as we are doing it on ourselves. And it began long before "The Shrub". He's just the latest and greatest and anyway, Congress runs the country, not our President. Now I'm headed out in the Frogeye to enjoy the afternoon and evening with my 3000 owning buddy and friends. The hell with this!! I'm on the downside at 65, have done my thing and am "crusty" accordingly. By the time this comes around I'll be long gone. For those of you under 40, and most especially for you under 30 (and your kids and their kids), good luck and..... GOOD DAY!! :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 17 10:08:24 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 10:08:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Temp Senders In-Reply-To: <003701c7b0f6$7cb7c450$76274cf0$@com> References: <003701c7b0f6$7cb7c450$76274cf0$@com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706170908h34cb5f37vf3526cdce1ad8025@mail.gmail.com> IIRC, there is an adpater on both. I'll see if I can find one and measure the threads. Cheers, Derf On 6/17/07, Duncan Sinclair wrote: > This may seem like an unusual question but.. > > Does anyone know if the 1500 electric temp sender (or any other electric > sender) will fit the spare port in the 1275 head? > > I am thinking ahead for EFI while I have the head stripped, I will get the > port drilled and tapped to for a GM sensor if I need to but would like to > avoid it if possible. > > > > Thanks > > Duncan > _______________________________________________ > derf247 at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From davriker at digitalpath.net Sun Jun 17 10:20:26 2007 From: davriker at digitalpath.net (David Riker) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 09:20:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Temp Senders References: <003701c7b0f6$7cb7c450$76274cf0$@com> Message-ID: <017d01c7b0fb$6c1cdfe0$6400a8c0@dave> Yes, the electric sender for the 1979 Midget or 1978/1979 MGB will fit in the stock 1275 head. You do not need the adapter that is used with the mechanical temp gauge. I have that sender in my 1275. David Riker davriker at digitalpath.net http://community.webshots.com/user/fool4mg http://www.myspace.com/fool4mg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Duncan Sinclair" To: ; Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 8:45 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Temp Senders > > Does anyone know if the 1500 electric temp sender (or any other electric > sender) will fit the spare port in the 1275 head? > > I am thinking ahead for EFI while I have the head stripped, I will get the > port drilled and tapped to for a GM sensor if I need to but would like to > avoid it if possible. > > > > Thanks > > Duncan From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Sun Jun 17 10:22:47 2007 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 11:22:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] (No LBC) 50 year time capsule --into the future?! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8de85a9c0706170922j5a979db7l7422cd993277d44@mail.gmail.com> On 6/17/07, Robert E. Shlafer wrote: > And it began long before "The Shrub". He's > just the latest and greatest and anyway, Congress runs the country, not our President. Indeed. Until we change Congress all we've done is change the public front man. > By the time this comes around I'll be long gone. For those of you under 40, and most > especially for you under 30 (and your kids and their kids), good luck and..... > > GOOD DAY!! :) Unfortunately that's the same view our Congress people and heads of many large corporations have. They stumble along withut a care for their fellow man or any concern for the future because they won't be here. All the while they fill their pockets at the expense of everyone else driving a larger percentage of us to poverty as they shift our nations jobs and economic power to other nations. The sad thing is many of our elections have become an exercise not in choosing the best person for the job but in hopefully choosing the 'better' of two losers. Enjoy your day driving ... I'll be in the garage, hoping to be driving by next weekend. From duncan at pondhop.com Sun Jun 17 10:23:18 2007 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 11:23:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Temp Senders In-Reply-To: <017d01c7b0fb$6c1cdfe0$6400a8c0@dave> References: <003701c7b0f6$7cb7c450$76274cf0$@com> <017d01c7b0fb$6c1cdfe0$6400a8c0@dave> Message-ID: <004b01c7b0fb$d0a172f0$71e458d0$@com> Excellent David Thanks Thanks Duncan -----Original Message----- From: David Riker [mailto:davriker at digitalpath.net] Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 11:20 AM To: Duncan Sinclair; spridgets at autox.team.net; midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Temp Senders Yes, the electric sender for the 1979 Midget or 1978/1979 MGB will fit in the stock 1275 head. You do not need the adapter that is used with the mechanical temp gauge. I have that sender in my 1275. David Riker davriker at digitalpath.net http://community.webshots.com/user/fool4mg http://www.myspace.com/fool4mg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Duncan Sinclair" To: ; Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 8:45 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Temp Senders > > Does anyone know if the 1500 electric temp sender (or any other electric > sender) will fit the spare port in the 1275 head? > > I am thinking ahead for EFI while I have the head stripped, I will get the > port drilled and tapped to for a GM sensor if I need to but would like to > avoid it if possible. > > > > Thanks > > Duncan From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Sun Jun 17 10:25:35 2007 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 11:25:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Any ideas? (paint) In-Reply-To: References: <2ad6c6b10706161114x3bf7a848x1735e54bf38a2c87@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0706170925l3430dacdt7b6d5c4ae2a14ea4@mail.gmail.com> On 6/16/07, Billy Zoom wrote: > Life is too short/ paint is too cheap. Buy another one. As much I dislike the disposable society notion I have to agree with BZ on that one! Dispose of it properly and buy another! From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Sun Jun 17 10:32:00 2007 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 12:32:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone have......... (no list content) Message-ID: <22830146.1182097920171.JavaMail.root@wmvirt9> I have a 9mm airgun that puts a 60something grain pellet through 2X4s. Yeah, Frank has warned us about that Chinese wood! Ed From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Sun Jun 17 10:57:15 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 09:57:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Ignition Cut Off Message-ID: <567530.65565.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Group, Ignition Cut Off - I thought i saved the thread on a cut off for the car. i remember some one saying at the fuel pump and there was another solution some one had posted . I can not remember what that was at this time. I went back in the list but there is so many answers that were off posts ( i know you find this hard to believe - LOL ) i lost interest in looking. I hate to restart a post but could some one tell me what the options are for the cut off. TIA, Vigil --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 17 13:08:10 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 13:08:10 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone have......... (no list content) In-Reply-To: <22830146.1182097920171.JavaMail.root@wmvirt9> References: <22830146.1182097920171.JavaMail.root@wmvirt9> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706171208o6731e752n645b4e8cd6fa79b5@mail.gmail.com> Uhh, no. Wood can be from China or anywhere, it will penetrate. Maybe not Heart Pine, but any standard stud that you can drive a nail through will be perforated. The pellets range from around 60 to over 100 grains. Something like 110 ft lbs muzzle energy. > Yeah, Frank has warned us about that Chinese wood! > > Ed Airguns were used during the Lewis and Clark expeditions. Cheers, Derf From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Sun Jun 17 16:53:16 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 15:53:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 50 year time capsule References: Message-ID: <00ac01c7b132$5b89ff00$f675fea9@p0k7l8> What!? And destroy our special form of Capitalist Republic government? Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert E. Shlafer" > > Depends whether people in the USA will > take back their government or allow the > current "of big biz, for big biz and by big > biz" ($$$$) government to continue to run rampant. From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jun 17 19:18:03 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 21:18:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Replace rear brake line In-Reply-To: <46744922.2030002@smarc.net> References: <46744922.2030002@smarc.net> Message-ID: <4675DD4B.7090307@comcast.net> Marc wrote: > Absolutely agree, thats why I asked how you access the line to replace > it. Does the middle panel that covers the drive shaft and tunnel come > out?? Only with a sawzall or cutting tool. Try some heat on the flare nut, that usually works for me. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Jun 17 19:19:21 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 20:19:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1500 Engine? Message-ID: <013c01c7b146$b395bb30$0401a8c0@midget> Hey guys, I just got an email from one of the local guys who is looking for an engine for his 1978 Midget. Preferably a good one not too far from Chicago... Ad is at http://www.chicagolandmgclub.com/classifieds David Lieb From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jun 17 19:22:11 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 21:22:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake lites and turn signal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4675DE43.1060206@comcast.net> Bobby Godwin wrote: > I have a similar problem to Mark, except mine is with the brake > light and turn signal on the drivers side. If the right side lamps work, check the connection at the right lamp, the harness runs over the wheel hump inside the trunk to the right lamp. From there it splits to the other side. Or you may just have dirty contacts on the lamp itself. Remove the lens and check the connections. Also clean and check the connections at the bullet connectors near the right lamp. The worst part is crawling inside the cave ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jun 17 19:29:19 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 21:29:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Temp Senders In-Reply-To: <003701c7b0f6$7cb7c450$76274cf0$@com> References: <003701c7b0f6$7cb7c450$76274cf0$@com> Message-ID: <4675DFEF.3080109@comcast.net> Duncan Sinclair wrote: > This may seem like an unusual question but.. > > Does anyone know if the 1500 electric temp sender (or any other electric > sender) will fit the spare port in the 1275 head? Minis used an electric temp sensor, if fits the 1275 head. I have an elec temp sensor in addition to my mechanical temp gauge on my Sprite. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From smarc at smarc.net Sun Jun 17 19:40:46 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 21:40:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Replace rear brake line In-Reply-To: <4675DD4B.7090307@comcast.net> References: <46744922.2030002@smarc.net> <4675DD4B.7090307@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4675E29E.3070301@smarc.net> How's the access for drive shaft removal? Because with 85,000 miles on the clock, I'm positive the Midget is gonna need U-Joints... Hope all had a nice Father's day. I spent a few hours today working with my son in the garage. Unfortunately, we had to pull the dashboard out of my MGB LE. Seems yesterday the main wiring harness developed a large leak and lost all it's smoke. And let me tell you, there was a LOT of smoke in there... a most unpleasant experience. Marc Frank Clarici wrote: > Marc wrote: > >> Absolutely agree, thats why I asked how you access the line to >> replace >> it. Does the middle panel that covers the drive shaft and tunnel >> come >> out?? > > Only with a sawzall or cutting tool. > Try some heat on the flare nut, that usually works for me. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 17 19:42:51 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 19:42:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Temp Senders In-Reply-To: <4675DFEF.3080109@comcast.net> References: <003701c7b0f6$7cb7c450$76274cf0$@com> <4675DFEF.3080109@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706171842t2c772971y6f0ca2529e6c4182@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I think I may have an Smiths electric temp gauge and sender around somewhere. Email me if interested. Cheers, Derf From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jun 17 19:47:04 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 21:47:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Replace rear brake line In-Reply-To: <4675E29E.3070301@smarc.net> References: <46744922.2030002@smarc.net> <4675DD4B.7090307@comcast.net> <4675E29E.3070301@smarc.net> Message-ID: <4675E418.8070306@comcast.net> Marc wrote: > How's the access for drive shaft removal? Undo the 4 bolts at the diff and pull the shaft out from the back of the car, it has a slip yoke on the tranny. Replacing it is a whole lot of fun when the front yoke flops around so tape it up to keep it straight, the tape will come off at speed when you are driving and it will scare the bejesus out of you as it sounds like the tranny is self destructing when the tape flaps agaist the tunnel and THEN you remember about the tape. ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Sun Jun 17 19:50:44 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 20:50:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] You won the lottery! (No LBC/no power content) Message-ID: <8a336b9d0706171850l3d5c176et6bcf7341679376da@mail.gmail.com> No LBC, haha, like this would ever happen at 80 horses :-x j/k: http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3292836 -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 "I wanna end up like Steve Martin at the end of the Jerk - with my pants down and walking around with nothing but a lamp." - Ron Bennington From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Sun Jun 17 19:57:06 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 20:57:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sussex, WI show In-Reply-To: <4675DFEF.3080109@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200706180155.l5I1svUY015996@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> Oh gawd, this was fun today. It was humid and in the upper 80's/90's in the field, but lots of fun. I've been to many car shows in the past, but this one had more of a purpose since I have one now. My motive pretty much was to find something close to my MK3 to see what it looks like in running condition. Not much to look at, but one bug eye and one MK2. Many big Healey's. Holy cow, that bug eye is a b*tch to look at the engine. I understand why the front tilt conversion is so coveted. We all have our mental blocks, and I think mine are carbs. I admit, I even messed up a Rochester 4 bbl on my Chevy 265 20 years ago, as well as my snow blower actually last fall. I had to ask where they did their carb work on the SU's, since mine has not seen any gas in 20 years. The Austin side of the hill went into great detail of floats and 3/16 clearance, the Triumph side of the hill said, heck, just fill it up and see what it does. The MG people were almost non existent. I swear they parked their cars and left. I will plant my car there next year. I will also take off in advance to make Blackhawk Chris From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jun 17 20:06:11 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 19:06:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] BHF and Sussex, WI show In-Reply-To: <200706180155.l5I1svUY015996@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <542275.69312.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Chris Manuel wrote: > Oh gawd, this was fun today. It was humid and in > the upper 80's/90's in the > field, but lots of fun. We were at Blackhawk in race suits, which is basically 3 layers of itchy clothes with gloves and hats. Perfect weekend though. Biggest HOLY SH!T was seeing an El Camino with "AH BJ7" (approximately) license plates pull into the paddock, and Just Ed pops out! Very cool - thanks for coming, Ed. Peter C. and Larry Daniels - thanks for all the tremendous support as usual. I'm still buzzing. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ From pythias at pacifier.com Sun Jun 17 20:06:26 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 19:06:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Sussex, WI show In-Reply-To: <200706180155.l5I1svUY015996@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> References: <4675DFEF.3080109@comcast.net> <200706180155.l5I1svUY015996@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <1932027747.20070617190626@pacifier.com> Hello Chris, what do you need a picture of on your MK III? (i assume III SPRITE, II Midget?) i have one in "reliable" running condition, not stock, but nothing undo-able. .. i can take pics and send 'em if ya want -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jun 17 20:22:41 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 21:22:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] BHF and Sussex, WI show References: <542275.69312.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <01a201c7b14f$8d2fc7c0$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BHF and Sussex, WI show --- Chris Manuel wrote: > Oh gawd, this was fun today. It was humid and in > the upper 80's/90's in the > field, but lots of fun. We were at Blackhawk in race suits, which is basically 3 layers of itchy clothes with gloves and hats. Perfect weekend though. Biggest HOLY SH!T was seeing an El Camino with "AH BJ7" (approximately) license plates pull into the paddock, and Just Ed pops out! Very cool - thanks for coming, Ed. Peter C. and Larry Daniels - thanks for all the tremendous support as usual. I'm still buzzing. Ron ================================== What Ron didn't mention is that he knocked two seconds off of his best time. Again. Two seconds, each, at the last two races at Road America and, now, two seconds at Blackhawk. A well-earned smile was seen on his face. Now, to get precocious young son #2 to quit razzing his dad (Ron) about how much he doesn't like dad's Alfa daily driver. Cool kid. LAD P.S. Buster, sorry you couldn't make it this year. Hope all is going well with Pam's recovery. From mconn2 at bright.net Sun Jun 17 20:23:21 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:23:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Replace rear brake line References: <06f801c7b0e3$83cc5660$2dca010a@mail2world.com><46753981.3010309@smarc.net> <003601c7b0f6$0362abb0$0a280310$@com> Message-ID: <008001c7b14f$a4edd050$d634ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Marc, I got the correct line for my AN5 from the regular auto store. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Duncan Sinclair" To: "'Marc'" ; "'Chris King'" Cc: Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Replace rear brake line > Marc, > > Standard 3/16" brake line from the auto store will work but the flares > will > be wrong and probably the fittings. > They pipe nuts need to be 3/4 X 24 with the step end. > The pipe flares required are ISO/bubble flares and most US cars use double > flares. You might be lucky. > IIRC for the front to back lie you will need a male pipe nut on the front > and a female on the rear to go onto the hose. > > Duncan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marc [mailto:smarc at smarc.net] > Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 8:39 AM > To: Chris King > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Replace rear brake line > > Chris - > Yes, thank you! - this is helpful. Apparently I have been DPO'ed... > Are the brake lines sold in retail stores compatible? Can someone > educate me on the flare type(s) required? I only have a VB Midget > catalog at the moment, I see they sell some lines and an adapter - > What is that for? > Marc > > Chris King wrote: > > Marc, > > No, it doesn't - the floor pan is one large stamping, including the > tunnel. It's part of what gives the tub it's strength. > > Now the brake line should be clipped under the seat re-inforcing > channel that's welded to the bottom of the floor pan, and easily > accessible from under the car. I'm not sure which side of the car, but > if you trace the line back you should find it. The fuel line also runs > under one of these channels. Both are clipped in to the side of the > channel. > > If for some reason the brake line is INSIDE the tunnel, then a DPO put > it there. It'll work fine, just not where it's supposed to be. > > HTH > > -=Chris > Chris King > http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ > <-----Original Message-----> > > Absolutely agree, thats why I asked how you access the line to replace > it. Does the middle panel that covers the drive shaft and tunnel come > out?? > Marc > Hal Faulkner wrote: > Marc, > Remember, these are your brakes you're talking about! Take the time to > do > it right, please. > Hal > _______________________________________________ > duncan at pondhop.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mconn2 at bright.net Sun Jun 17 20:25:28 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:25:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] (No LBC) 50 year time capsule --into the future?! References: <1577120286.20070617084239@pacifier.com> <001201c7b0f7$e06b0830$75046f47@DBKF4T81> Message-ID: <008901c7b14f$f05dcb80$d634ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Da molto viva la Repullica ----- Original Message ----- From: "pdxpete" To: "Bill L" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (No LBC) 50 year time capsule --into the future?! > ".. we shall meet the enemy, and not only may he be ours, he may be us." > Forward to the Pogo Papers by Walt Kelley, circa 1952 > > "We have met the enemy ... and he is us." > Earth Day poster by Walt Kelley, circa 1970 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill L" > >> Hello Spridgets, >> sad but true, republics don't last forever, they collapse from >> INSIDE. > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jun 17 20:41:34 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 21:41:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] BHF and Sussex, WI show References: <542275.69312.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <01b701c7b152$301537c0$6401a8c0@Larry> Perfect weekend though. Biggest HOLY SH!T was seeing an El Camino with "AH BJ7" (approximately) license plates pull into the paddock, and Just Ed pops out! Very cool - thanks for coming, Ed. Ron ================================= Yeah, Ed, why didn't you stick around? We had plenty of adult beverages. Flounder's "Thicktones" serenaded us until we couldn't stand it any longer -- even with mass quantities of Miller Lite. His "Big Dog", Hoss, wasn't there to take over lead vocals this time. We all knew something was missing. LD From jlaird237 at cox.net Sun Jun 17 21:31:14 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:31:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tilt forward bonnet. Message-ID: <000601c7b159$1fa60c50$6401a8c0@personal> Is there such a think as a tilt forward kit?? I have hinge problems and need to change so I do not have to redo paint and such. In addition I am too old to get under the bonnet for any length of time absolutely kills my back.. Maybe drawings for the parts? Jack From millerls at ado13.com Sun Jun 17 23:11:21 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:11:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tilt forward bonnet. References: <000601c7b159$1fa60c50$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: <055001c7b167$1cdcf8e0$d280bc43@HP> Try these http://ado13.com/project/hinge.jpg http://ado13.com/project/hingedrawing.gif ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Laird" To: "spridgets net" Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 8:31 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Tilt forward bonnet. > Is there such a think as a tilt forward kit?? > > I have hinge problems and need to change so I do not have to redo paint > and > such. In addition I am too old to get under the bonnet for any length of > time > absolutely kills my back.. > > Maybe drawings for the parts? From hal at katemuir.com Mon Jun 18 02:29:25 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 01:29:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tilt forward bonnet. In-Reply-To: <000601c7b159$1fa60c50$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: Jack, Speedwell sells a nice looking kit. Gerrard used to have the plans posted for a hinge that looks just like the one from Speedwell, but he is redoing his web site and the link I have no longer works. A bit more complex than the one Larry shows, but (perhaps) more sophisticated. Speedwell advertises that their kit needs no further support of the metal bonnet when open, kind of a nice feature. But Larry's hinge works and is a lot less complicated. Hal From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jun 18 05:36:49 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 06:36:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] BHF and Sussex, WI show References: <542275.69312.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <016901c7b19c$f6053760$0401a8c0@midget> It was indeed a great weekend to have fun. Saturday, Michaela, my oldest daughter, and I went up to fabulous Kirkland, Illinois for the Chicagoland MG Club's annual Lands End Rallye followed by the Tri-Club Picnic. The bad news is that the host of the picnic is moving to Memphis, Missouri. Sunday I was hanging out in the parking lot of the College of Lake County, IL, playing autocross with the Windy City Miata Club. Managed to get third place in my class (unlimited) behind a Datsun 510 in full race trim and an STi Subie, thanks to the Hoosiers donated by Soaverino. Unfortunately, I also managed to cord one of them :-( Now to find another pair of tires and get them mounted in time for the assault on the Autobahn go kart track next Saturday and the back-to-back events at Tire Rack the week after. Now to get back to work and rest up... David Lieb 1972 Blue From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Jun 18 05:44:56 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 06:44:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Stains on the Plastic Message-ID: Does anyone know how to get shoe polish stains off of the plastic bumpers and mouldings on a 2001 Escape? It seems that someone got a bit excited with the shoe polish after the wedding last weekend, and this stuff won't come off. Any tips or tricks would be appreciated. Brad -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From bill at e-z.net Mon Jun 18 06:51:53 2007 From: bill at e-z.net (Bill) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 05:51:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] rear seat for SWA! Message-ID: <1638959894.20070618055153@e-z.net> Hello spridgets, ebay.... 290130005846 -- Best regards, Bill mailto:bill at e-z.net From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Jun 18 07:40:56 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 08:40:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] BHF and Sussex, WI show, now Blackhawk Message-ID: <002301c7b1ae$4ea41330$ebec3990$@com> Yeah Larry... what was missing was talent... but that's nothing new. It was so f'in hot... even wearing a cool suit (pumps ice water thru a t-shirt with capillary tubes in it) I was hoping for the 1 lap to go flag at least 10 laps before the end of Saturday's enduro or Sunday's AM feature race. The older I get, the less I can take that kind of heat. Elmo correctly diagnosed a faulty cap on my radiator's expansion tank. I did actually finish 2 lengthy sessions, which is a break with recent tradition. I'm running what is essentially by "backup" motor. It needs a better cylinder head. My cam choice wasn't the best. It's a Comptune grind with the power band a little too high... not enough grunt coming out of the corners. Colby uses that particular grind for his 1275/1380 race motors, but the 948 doesn't have enough torque to pull it off. I'll find one of my normal 75-12 Elgin cams, or maybe use a factory race 649 cam I've got here to use in this motor. Between the 96 degree heat Sat., and 5 year old race tires (I had to stop and think when I bought them, and it was the first time I ran Mid-Ohio), my handling was going away after 3 laps. I managed to pass enough cars to make the races satisfying, but I couldn't push it very hard. There was a blue Alpine that I managed to catch, but couldn't pass. I'm not sure, but Burt Levy may have been mooching a ride in it. The car was taking a peculiar line, which, since its rear wheel drive, may be the right line for the car. But, twice I was even with it on the inside of the corner, and had the door slammed on me, putting me in the grass. I backed off, and watch Jack Drews suffer the same fate as he tried to pass the Alpine. I saw him put in the grass at least twice. I knew that even if I did get by, with my shit tires, it would be a nut pull to stay ahead. Ron and Jeff were going like stink. You've got to give credit to Jeff for his bullet proof car prep. He rarely has to mess with the car. Ron's car definitely has been to the horsepower store, and he's driving it like he stole it. Ron had clutch/trans issues, but kept it running all weekend. Mal Fay ran all weekend. John "big rig" Bauer kept shedding expensive race axles like James Bond's DB5 Aston Martin, with the axle sticking out the side of the car (dangerously). John hasn't figured out that double bearings are the key to success. John Spinnader's car made the track after some wrenching to get his head gasket and head studs to seal correctly. Chris "No Show" Ducklow didn't make Sunday's race due to a failed clutch. Paul "Otis" Fitzsimmons had brake issues and didn't get much track time. Tony Donato helped with food and car prep. Its always good to se him. Elmo's car filled its Oberg filter with sparkly bearing dust, and his race weekend was over. But, his troubles weren't over. They packed up and left the track at 9pm, after the party. They didn't get home until 5am due to a failed leaf spring on his trailer. It shredded a tire, and tore up the spring mounts on the frame. Jim ended up strapping a block of wood to the axle and limping home. Our feature race was at 10:20, and we were all packed up and ready to go right after the race. We were home by 2, which, after all that heat, was home sweet (air conditioned) home. WST (VSCDA rule rant forthcoming) ================================= Yeah, Ed, why didn't you stick around? We had plenty of adult beverages. Flounder's "Thicktones" serenaded us until we couldn't stand it any longer -- even with mass quantities of Miller Lite. His "Big Dog", Hoss, wasn't there to take over lead vocals this time. We all knew something was missing. LD From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Jun 18 07:44:22 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 08:44:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] rear seat for SWA! In-Reply-To: <1638959894.20070618055153@e-z.net> References: <1638959894.20070618055153@e-z.net> Message-ID: I have ordered one out of the U.K. that is almost an exact match to the originals. Granted, they are substancially more than the opening bid and shipping costs, but then, the reserve has not been met yet either. That being said, I get to order the color and trim I want, rather than settling for blue. If anyone is seriously interested in adding an unusual piece to their Spridget (non Bugeye) hit me offlist for more info. Brad On 6/18/07, Bill wrote: > Hello spridgets, > > ebay.... 290130005846 > > -- > Best regards, > Bill mailto:bill at e-z.net From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 18 08:59:48 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 08:59:48 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Stains on the Plastic In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706180759l263ce95cmf0761ae574cb485b@mail.gmail.com> No, but I can google: http://home.howstuffworks.com/how-to-remove-shoe-polish-stains.htm Scroll down a little for plastic. From redmidget72 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 18 09:43:24 2007 From: redmidget72 at yahoo.com (Red Midget) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 08:43:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] ***To sell or Not to sell?*** In-Reply-To: <12725389.1181939878678.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <557827.20224.qm@web51903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Jay, Thanks for the input. If you or anyone is interested I will be putting up a discription of what has been replaced or repaired since I acquired the car. Or write to me and I'll send back a note about it. Thanks, Lon (RedMidget72) type79 at ix.netcom.com wrote: I have a hard time evaluating the value of these RWA cars, but for me the value lies in the condition of the tub. Excellent unrestored rot-free original cars can be found for $5,000 so you can use that as somewhat of a gauge. You could also check completed auctions on ebay. Many prospective buyers of Spridgets are interested in a project car. It seems that only recently have there been buyers willing to pay serious bucks for restored Bugeyes or certain later cars. (Sorry guys, I can't bring myself to call them square bodies or box Sprites.) :-/ I'll throw out a figure and guess your car is worth $2,000? but that's without knowing the state of the engine, gearbox, tub and other mechanicals. jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." Hunter S. THompson -----Original Message----- >From: Red Midget >Sent: Jun 15, 2007 2:43 PM >To: spridgets list >Subject: [Spridgets] ***To sell or Not to sell?*** > >I have posted pictures of Bobbie MG on the midgetsprite Yahoo group >site. See folder "1972 RWA Midget". I have worked on the car so very >little in the last 2 years. First I was diagnosed with Lymphoma and >had to undergo surgery, and cancer treatments. Then I have been busy >just recovering and trying to take care of my house, my health, my job, >etc... I don't want to get into the long details of what all has been >going on. The short story is I really like the car, have put a bit of >money and a lot of time into the car, but just can't find the time, or >money to get her looking and running as well as she deserves to. If I >do go to sell, I need help in pricing her. The car is in Oak Ridge, Tennessee. > What say Y'all? _______________________________________________ redmidget72 at yahoo.com --------------------------------- Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 18 10:13:57 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:13:57 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] ***To sell or Not to sell?*** In-Reply-To: <557827.20224.qm@web51903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <12725389.1181939878678.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <557827.20224.qm@web51903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706180913j30dc21cesb930efd5d2ace7f6@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I just gave away my 74 almost rust free project for $1500, which was more than twice what I paid last year. I gave the guy enough extra parts to recoup his money if he sold just the parts on ebay. When I bought the car, from another list member, I got enough parts to recoup my investment if I had sold parts. So, I though I'd pass the deal along. I traded "up" to a Miata. In many ways the Miata is better for me. My wife will drive it, if she must. She requires A/C. The Miata is a good car, a more practical roadster that doesn't break down. It lacks the charm, nostalgia, and pride of ownership that you get from a classic British sports car. But, it is as if someone cross-bred an MGB and a Toyota. Parts are plentiful. There is a large following. Yada, yada, yada. I miss my Midget. My sister has three Midgets, however, in various states of repair/disrepair. So, when I want some good old British car grime under my fingernails, I can get it. I'm still finding Midget parts that I had forgotten about. Hagerty insurance on the Midget was $70 per YEAR. As far as price goes, you aint gonna get rich selling Spridgets, unless you are unscrupulous. Best to find a good buyer and make him/her a good deal. Thats the spirit of British sports cars, economical fun. Cheers, Derf On 6/18/07, Red Midget wrote: > Jay, > Thanks for the input. If you or anyone is interested I will be putting up a discription of what has been replaced or repaired since I acquired the car. Or write to me and I'll send back a note about it. > Thanks, Lon (RedMidget72) > > > type79 at ix.netcom.com wrote: > I have a hard time evaluating the value of these RWA cars, but for me the value lies in the condition of the tub. Excellent unrestored rot-free original cars can be found for $5,000 so you can use that as somewhat of a gauge. > > You could also check completed auctions on ebay. > > Many prospective buyers of Spridgets are interested in a project car. It seems that only recently have there been buyers willing to pay serious bucks for restored Bugeyes or certain later cars. (Sorry guys, I can't bring myself to call them square bodies or box Sprites.) :-/ > > I'll throw out a figure and guess your car is worth $2,000? but that's without knowing the state of the engine, gearbox, tub and other mechanicals. > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ > "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." Hunter S. THompson > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Red Midget > >Sent: Jun 15, 2007 2:43 PM > >To: spridgets list > >Subject: [Spridgets] ***To sell or Not to sell?*** > > > >I have posted pictures of Bobbie MG on the midgetsprite Yahoo group > >site. See folder "1972 RWA Midget". I have worked on the car so very > >little in the last 2 years. First I was diagnosed with Lymphoma and > >had to undergo surgery, and cancer treatments. Then I have been busy > >just recovering and trying to take care of my house, my health, my job, > >etc... I don't want to get into the long details of what all has been > >going on. The short story is I really like the car, have put a bit of > >money and a lot of time into the car, but just can't find the time, or > >money to get her looking and running as well as she deserves to. If I > >do go to sell, I need help in pricing her. The car is in Oak Ridge, Tennessee. > > What say Y'all? > _______________________________________________ > redmidget72 at yahoo.com > > > > --------------------------------- > Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. > _______________________________________________ > derf247 at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From John.Deikis at va.gov Mon Jun 18 10:08:36 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 12:08:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Ignition Cut Off In-Reply-To: <567530.65565.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <567530.65565.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Vigil: If you are looking for a kill switch, then check the websites of the race suppliers, like Pegassus or Summit. If you run a generator, you can get by with the less expensive switch. If you run an alternator, you need the switch that protects the alternator. A bit more money. Instructions for installation are clear. If all you want to do is disable the car, you can also get a simple battery cut off switch at any discount auto parts store. I got a Bosch plastic "giant key" switch for my '63 VW from JCWhitney for a few dollars. A fuel pump cut off is not an ignition cut off. If you want to cut the fuel pump, you can wire it through a special oil pressure sensing switch, or buy an inertia switch. The later is a good safety device in case of a collision. JohnD -----Original Message----- From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com [mailto:uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 12:57 PM To: spridgets; Sprite Subject: [Spridgets] Ignition Cut Off Group, Ignition Cut Off - I thought i saved the thread on a cut off for the car. i remember some one saying at the fuel pump and there was another solution some one had posted . I can not remember what that was at this time. I went back in the list but there is so many answers that were off posts ( i know you find this hard to believe - LOL ) i lost interest in looking. I hate to restart a post but could some one tell me what the options are for the cut off. TIA, Vigil --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. From John.Deikis at va.gov Mon Jun 18 10:10:57 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 12:10:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Filter head needed Message-ID: I have a crack in the spin-on filter head of my 1275. Anyone have one from a parts donor that you might want to sell? Thanks. JohnD From jlaird237 at cox.net Mon Jun 18 11:48:29 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 12:48:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks Message-ID: <000901c7b1d0$e1808a40$6401a8c0@personal> For the feed back on front tilt bonnets. Think I will go that route for sure after weighing the pros and cons. No more hurting back when working under the hood. Easer to keep everything clean. Will no longer be dependent on bent hinges or hinge boxes. Will show case the engine room nicely. It looks so good under there. Just need to find an easy way to tie the bonnet down with out reinventing the wheel. Think I saw some one somewhere that used sume rubber straps or such up under the wheel wells where they could not be seen? From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 18 11:25:02 2007 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Hi Intensity Bulbs for Gauges Message-ID: <330324.11100.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Anyone got a source for brighter bulbs for the instruments/gauges on a Spridget. It's either my eyes or it's just plain dim at night. I am pulling the cans and painting gloss white inside to help but instruments are almost unreadable at night. I tried Radio Shack but they don't sell a hi Intensity Screw Base Lamp that I can see. If they do it was the one they were out of. Anyone got a lead on bulbs? I recall seeing a listing for a halogen screw base type. Anyone tried these. Jim Gruber Bugsy '68 Sprite (future Bugeye in disguise) Cincinnati, OH --------------------------------- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. From jlaird237 at cox.net Mon Jun 18 12:00:45 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 13:00:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hi Intensity Bulbs for Gauges References: <330324.11100.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000801c7b1d2$98444d10$6401a8c0@personal> Don't forget to do something with that peice of plastic that lets the light in. Mine on Miss Agatha work just fine, nice and bright. Everything stock and clean. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Gruber" To: "Spridgets Digest" Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 12:25 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Hi Intensity Bulbs for Gauges > Anyone got a source for brighter bulbs for the instruments/gauges on a > Spridget. It's either my eyes or it's just plain dim at night. I am > pulling the cans and painting gloss white inside to help but instruments > are almost unreadable at night. I tried Radio Shack but they don't sell a > hi Intensity Screw Base Lamp that I can see. If they do it was the one > they were out of. Anyone got a lead on bulbs? I recall seeing a listing > for a halogen screw base type. Anyone tried these. > > Jim Gruber > Bugsy '68 Sprite (future Bugeye in disguise) > Cincinnati, OH > > --------------------------------- > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! > FareChase. > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.0/851 - Release Date: 6/16/2007 > 12:50 PM From hal at katemuir.com Mon Jun 18 12:33:21 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:33:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks In-Reply-To: <000901c7b1d0$e1808a40$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: Jack, The neatest way I've seen it done is with Dzus fasteners, on Glen's Turbo Bugeye. You will need to fabricate some brackets for the inner part of the fastener but it is neat and unobtrusive. Glen, got any pics? Hal -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Jack Laird Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 10:48 AM To: spridgets net Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks Just need to find an easy way to tie the bonnet down with out reinventing the wheel. Think I saw some one somewhere that used sume rubber straps or such up under the wheel wells where they could not be seen? From JNBrashear at garverengineers.com Mon Jun 18 12:41:52 2007 From: JNBrashear at garverengineers.com (Brashear, Jack, N) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 13:41:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Trying to track down a car - maybe in Oklahoma Message-ID: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603305385@glitas07.garverinc.local> Hi All, a friend in the Little Rock area used to own a 1972 Midget. He sold it many years ago to someone in the Tulsa OK vicinity but can't remember who and he can't find the VIN. The car was yellow and was later restored and repainted yellow. Ken thinks he saw a photo of the car a few years back on someone's web site. There was the name of "Bing O'Kelly" (he thinks) connected with that photo in some way. Does this car or this name sound familiar to anyone?? Please let me know. Many thanks, Jack From Daniel1312 at aol.com Mon Jun 18 12:42:57 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:42:57 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Computer printer question - NO LBC Message-ID: Hi list, I want to buy a new computer printer and while the old printer had a parallel port connection all the new stuff is USB and I'm not sure this PC (home-built) has USB ports that work. I'm running w98 and the mainboard does have USB ports but I don't want to to buy a USB connecting printer only to find I can't get this PCs USB ports to work? Any way to test a USB port? Regards Daniel1312 From miniac7 at aol.com Mon Jun 18 12:41:38 2007 From: miniac7 at aol.com (miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:41:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hi Intensity Bulbs for Gauges In-Reply-To: <330324.11100.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <330324.11100.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8C97FEF70B20FEC-238-A62A@webmail-da20.sysops.aol.com> I've gone toB 3 or 5 watt ( can't recall which ) screw-in halogen bulbs in all the gauges in my Mini, and at $3 a pop five years ago,B they're well worth the price. I purchased mine from LBC Co. Howard Collins Virginia Beach, Va. '60 AH Bugeye '69 Austin Cooper S -----Original Message----- From: James Gruber To: Spridgets Digest Sent: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 1:25 pm Subject: [Spridgets] Hi Intensity Bulbs for Gauges Anyone got a source for brighter bulbs for the instruments/gauges on a Spridget. t's either my eyes or it's just plain dim at night. I am pulling the cans and ainting gloss white inside to help but instruments are almost unreadable at ight. I tried Radio Shack but they don't sell a hi Intensity Screw Base Lamp hat I can see. If they do it was the one they were out of. Anyone got a lead on ulbs? I recall seeing a listing for a halogen screw base type. Anyone tried hese. Jim Gruber ugsy '68 Sprite (future Bugeye in disguise) incinnati, OH -------------------------------- ooking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! areChase. ______________________________________________ iniac7 at aol.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. From shelden3 at pldi.net Mon Jun 18 12:51:21 2007 From: shelden3 at pldi.net (charlie shelden) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 13:51:21 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Computer printer question - NO LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16717.164.58.184.10.1182192681.squirrel@164.58.184.10> Daniel, W98 and USB are not very good bed fellows. That was just the begining of the USB revolution and W98 had minimal support for USB. I've not ever had much luck in applying USB devices to that OS, and I do this for a living, not to say it can't be done just not always best. To answer your question, there are many laser type printers that still support a parallel port. I've seen some lasers much cheaper than many ink jets, and you have a longer life as well as a lower cost of ownership. If you can let me know what you plan to do with the printer I can do some research for you. Thanks, Charlie 59 Sprite > Hi list, > > I want to buy a new computer printer and while the old printer had a > parallel > port connection all the new stuff is USB and I'm not sure this PC > (home-built) has USB ports that work. > > I'm running w98 and the mainboard does have USB ports but I don't want to > to > buy a USB connecting printer only to find I can't get this PCs USB ports > to > work? > > Any way to test a USB port? > > Regards > > > Daniel1312 > _______________________________________________ > shelden3 at pldi.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jun 18 12:56:02 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 13:56:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Computer printer question - NO LBC References: Message-ID: <003c01c7b1da$51d09700$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > I want to buy a new computer printer and while the old printer had a > parallel > port connection all the new stuff is USB and I'm not sure this PC > (home-built) has USB ports that work. > > I'm running w98 and the mainboard does have USB ports but I don't want to > to > buy a USB connecting printer only to find I can't get this PCs USB ports > to > work? > > Any way to test a USB port? Daniel, Windows 98 Second Edition supported USB fairly well. The biggest problem you should have is that it might be difficult to find a printer with Win98 drivers anymore. Very little chance that the port is bad from a hardware perspective. Check Device Manager to be sure the USB ports have been installed (right- click "My Computer", select Properties. Verify the version of Windows 98 and then look at Device Manager. Borrow a "USB flash drive" from a friend and plug it in; PC should see that something is there; hit escape and remove the drive; port is good. Do NOT connect the printer until AFTER you install the software!!! The software might ask you to connect the printer during installation; if so, do it. You just do not want Windows to try installing software for the device it just detected until the software is there. It can be very amusing in a macabre way to recover from this... David Lieb From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jun 18 13:15:28 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 12:15:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Computer printer question - NO LBC In-Reply-To: <003c01c7b1da$51d09700$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: > it might be difficult to find a printer with Win98 > drivers You'll also need USB 2.0 rather than USB 1.1 The best thing would be to get a new Mac and let it automatically figure out how to run whatever you plug into it. BZ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jun 18 13:18:52 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 12:18:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hi Intensity Bulbs for Gauges In-Reply-To: <8C97FEF70B20FEC-238-A62A@webmail-da20.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: > 've gone toB 3 or 5 watt ( can't recall which ) screw-in halogen bulbs Check your connections first. Make sure you have a good ground and hit the switch with some WD-40. If you install higher wattage bulbs and the connections aren't good, the increased current flow will just give you a bigger voltage drop. BZ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jun 18 13:35:21 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:35:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Computer printer question - NO LBC References: Message-ID: <004401c7b1df$cfd785a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > You'll also need USB 2.0 rather than USB 1.1 > The best thing would be to get a new Mac and let it automatically figure > out > how to run whatever you plug into it. No need to get that desperate, Billy! A new printer will work just fine on a USB 1 port. Yes, USB 2 is faster, but USB 1 will shift the data to the printer faster than the printer can shift paper, so there would not be much of a benefit. Let him get on with his next book. David Lieb From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Jun 18 13:54:40 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 12:54:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks References: Message-ID: <002201c7b1e2$826152d0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> I'll post a pic or two this evening. It works great and is very unobtrusive. I've seen the Spitfire latches on a bugeye and it just seems so wrong somehow. With the Dzus fasteners, its leaves only very small holes for a purist to weld shut in the car's next lifetime. Glen Byrns > Jack, > The neatest way I've seen it done is with Dzus fasteners, on Glen's Turbo > Bugeye. You will need to fabricate some brackets for the inner part of > the > fastener but it is neat and unobtrusive. > Glen, got any pics? > Hal From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon Jun 18 13:57:48 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:57:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Computer printer question - NO LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <350DF5A6-094F-4E10-A3F9-0BA5EB749F08@comcast.net> Man I like the way you think! Lester On Jun 18, 2007, at 2:15 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: >> it might be difficult to find a printer with Win98 >> drivers > You'll also need USB 2.0 rather than USB 1.1 > The best thing would be to get a new Mac and let it automatically > figure out > how to run whatever you plug into it. > BZ > _______________________________________________ > oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From Daniel1312 at aol.com Mon Jun 18 14:08:36 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:08:36 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] USB question - no LBC Message-ID: Thanks for the responses so far. When I plug in my absolutely useless worlds smallest digital camera using a USB lead Windows tells me it's found something new - I guess this means the USB ports do work? Under USB controller from system properites device manager there appears to be 4 USB ports though the base unit only has one slot. Two of these are called USB root hub and the other are SiS 7001 PCI to USB Open Host Controller. I found a HP printer that runs off a USB lead and will run with W98. So, is the list wisdom that my PC will recognise the printer when I plug it in and will run OK? If so I want to install the drivers and then the printer when prompted? I'm assuming the PC won't already have the drivers? Thanks Daniel1312 From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jun 18 14:14:52 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 15:14:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] USB question - no LBC References: Message-ID: <004e01c7b1e5$54e66180$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > When I plug in my absolutely useless worlds smallest digital camera using > a > USB lead Windows tells me it's found something new - I guess this means > the USB > ports do work? > > Under USB controller from system properites device manager there appears > to > be 4 USB ports though the base unit only has one slot. Two of these are > called > USB root hub and the other are SiS 7001 PCI to USB Open Host Controller. > > I found a HP printer that runs off a USB lead and will run with W98. > > So, is the list wisdom that my PC will recognise the printer when I plug > it > in and will run OK? If so I want to install the drivers and then the > printer > when prompted? I'm assuming the PC won't already have the drivers? Dead on the whole way through, Daniel. Yes, your USB port works. Install the software and then connect the printer when prompted by the software installation. No, the drivers will NOT already be on the computer. David Lieb From peter at nosimport.com Mon Jun 18 14:18:46 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 15:18:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] USB question - no LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070618151609.01ad6250@nosimport.com> I've found you need to polarise anything you plug into Windoze first. Flash 220 across both terminals. Peter C == At 03:08 PM 6/18/2007, Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: >Thanks for the responses so far. From Daniel1312 at aol.com Mon Jun 18 14:23:49 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:23:49 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] USB question - no LBC Message-ID: Does this help to let the smoke out? As an aside I once decided the problem with my Dyson vacuum was that the electric motor brushes/carbons needed re-filing. After the re-filing I switched it back on and had a fairly good impression of an angle grinder at work - I bought a new Dyson with money I didn't have later that day. Daniel1312 In a message dated 18/06/07 21:20:45 GMT Daylight Time, peter at nosimport.com writes: > I've found you need to polarise anything you plug into Windoze > first. Flash 220 across both terminals. > > Peter C > == From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 18 14:33:16 2007 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 13:33:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Hi Intensity Bulbs for Gauges In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <840519.24999.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Billy, Good thought, since they all are equally dim, anyone ever had trouble with that little switch that turns panel lamps on/off. That could be where my issue is as I've never taken apart / cleaned Billy Zoom wrote: > 've gone toB 3 or 5 watt ( can't recall which ) screw-in halogen bulbs Check your connections first. Make sure you have a good ground and hit the switch with some WD-40. If you install higher wattage bulbs and the connections aren't good, the increased current flow will just give you a bigger voltage drop. BZ --------------------------------- Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. From BingOKelley at kellyville.oilfield.slb.com Mon Jun 18 15:02:29 2007 From: BingOKelley at kellyville.oilfield.slb.com (Bing O'Kelley) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:02:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Trying to track down a car - maybe in Oklahoma In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070618151719.033fea90@kellyville.oilfield.slb.com> Hey Jack, I'm Bing O'Kelley . That car sounds familiar. :-) I have been a member and lurked on the Sprigit-digest since 1996 rarely commenting, but very much enjoying the banter between the "family members". I am still the owner of the 72 Yellow Midget. http://www.mgcars.org.uk/Midget/midget1.html (posted in 1995) I didn't buy the car from your friend although I bought the car in Arkansas. The first owner lived in Van Buren and owned the car for about 18 months. I actually purchased the car in 1990 from my cousin in Ft. Smith who was the 2nd owner. The car sat for 13 years before I dug it out from under her house in Ft Smith. I brought it to Tulsa and started the refurbishing. It is still in nice shape with 54K miles on it. I have a copy of the 2nd Arkansas title and even the original Michelin spare tire. With all the rain lately I haven't gotten to drive it as often as I like. I can look up the VIN # if your friend is still interested. -Bing >Message: 3 >Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 13:41:52 -0500 >From: "Brashear, Jack, N" >Subject: [Spridgets] Trying to track down a car - maybe in Oklahoma > > >Hi All, a friend in the Little Rock area used to own a 1972 Midget. He >sold it many years ago to someone in the Tulsa OK vicinity but can't >remember who and he can't find the VIN. The car was yellow and was >later restored and repainted yellow. Ken thinks he saw a photo of the >car a few years back on someone's web site. There was the name of "Bing >O'Kelly" (he thinks) connected with that photo in some way. Does this >car or this name sound familiar to anyone?? Please let me know. Many >thanks, > >Jack From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jun 18 15:06:56 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:06:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hi Intensity Bulbs for Gauges In-Reply-To: <840519.24999.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <840519.24999.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0706181406i11a8eeb2me3635b2a5b645278@mail.gmail.com> Has anyone looked into LED applications for Spridgets? They take much less power and are several orders of magnitude brighter than incandescent bulbs. They also last for a long time. See.... http://www.ledtronics.com/markets/auto_index.htm#Auto_Section_3 Cheers!! Jim On 6/18/07, James Gruber wrote: > Billy, > > Good thought, since they all are equally dim, anyone ever had trouble with that little switch that turns panel lamps on/off. That could be where my issue is as I've never taken apart / cleaned > > Billy Zoom wrote: > > 've gone toB 3 or 5 watt ( can't recall which ) screw-in halogen bulbs > Check your connections first. Make sure you have a good ground and hit the > switch with some WD-40. If you install higher wattage bulbs and the > connections aren't good, the increased current flow will just give you a > bigger voltage drop. > BZ > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 18 15:18:52 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 15:18:52 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Trying to track down a car - maybe in Oklahoma In-Reply-To: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603305385@glitas07.garverinc.local> References: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603305385@glitas07.garverinc.local> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706181418h4429fa07m3c6c613bfbd5e4ff@mail.gmail.com> Again, I'm not perfect, but I can google: http://www.mgcars.org.uk/Midget/midget1.html Is that the car? Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 18 15:21:53 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 15:21:53 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Trying to track down a car - maybe in Oklahoma In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070618151719.033fea90@kellyville.oilfield.slb.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070618151719.033fea90@kellyville.oilfield.slb.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706181421l1b1cd254r4892ba6f6bb9effd@mail.gmail.com> Well, so much for my google skills. Speak of el diablo......... From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jun 18 15:23:15 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:23:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hi Intensity Bulbs for Gauges References: <840519.24999.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0706181406i11a8eeb2me3635b2a5b645278@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <006001c7b1ee$e4542100$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Has anyone looked into LED applications for Spridgets? They take much > less power and are several orders of magnitude brighter than > incandescent bulbs. They also last for a long time. I tried them in the Midget's taillights. Back to incandescent. When used in place of incandescent bulbs, the resistors and circuitry represent a substantial increase in potential points of failure and the statistics did not let me down. Very short life in my case. YMMV David Lieb From lists at woozy.com Mon Jun 18 15:28:27 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:28:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Chrome In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706181418h4429fa07m3c6c613bfbd5e4ff@mail.gmail.com> References: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603305385@glitas07.garverinc.local> <5f00d9910706181418h4429fa07m3c6c613bfbd5e4ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4676F8FB.90203@woozy.com> Here's something you don't see every day: ebay item # 280124542852 Robert From type79 at ix.netcom.com Mon Jun 18 15:44:45 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:44:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Chrome Message-ID: <8227301.1182203085507.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Thank God. jay fishbein wallinfgord, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ -----Original Message----- >From: Robert Weeks >Sent: Jun 18, 2007 5:28 PM >To: Spridget List >Subject: [Spridgets] Chrome > >Here's something you don't see every day: > >ebay item # 280124542852 >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From Daniel1312 at aol.com Mon Jun 18 15:58:09 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:58:09 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Another computer NO LBC question Message-ID: I think I might have found a printer that will work with W98 only it wants W98 SE. This PC has W98 but I do have an install disc for W98 SE. I suppose the printer will flat refuse to work with anything other than the SE and I'll have to install everything from scratch? (I'm software challanged). Also, does anyone have any original install software they want to throw away but could throw to me instead - I'm working on Word 97 that a lister gave me several years ago. Daniel 1312 - back to printer hunting From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jun 18 16:13:13 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:13:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Another computer NO LBC question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0706181513r1770f121t2bcd86b9bf0e1c54@mail.gmail.com> Daniel, I'm just getting ready to clean out all my old software that will no longer work with my Windows XP Pro desktop and laptop. I will gladly bundle it all and send it off to you if you provide your address. I may even have some installation books and such that you might find useful. My memory is rusty, but I seem to recall that 98SE is a pretty simple upgrade. Though I think there may be two different disks - One is W98SE install, the other is W98SE upgrade?? One of you computer geeks jump in here..... Cheers!! Jim On 6/18/07, Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: > I think I might have found a printer that will work with W98 only it wants > W98 SE. > > This PC has W98 but I do have an install disc for W98 SE. I suppose the > printer will flat refuse to work with anything other than the SE and I'll have to > install everything from scratch? (I'm software challanged). > > Also, does anyone have any original install software they want to throw away > but could throw to me instead - I'm working on Word 97 that a lister gave me > several years ago. > > Daniel 1312 - back to printer hunting > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From pythias at pacifier.com Mon Jun 18 17:25:07 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:25:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks In-Reply-To: <000901c7b1d0$e1808a40$6401a8c0@personal> References: <000901c7b1d0$e1808a40$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: <1347956073.20070618162507@pacifier.com> Hello Jack, everyone has their own ideas about how to keep the bonnet down.. listen to them all and then do it the right way, .. get some of the fasteners from a spitfire. no outside rubber strap, no outside leather strap... .. more work, but worth it.. .. keep in mind that i have a box sprite and NO body working skills whatsoever. -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 18 17:30:25 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:30:25 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Another computer NO LBC question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706181630q2e07da1uc56db5a8dabc24f5@mail.gmail.com> If you get a USB cabled printer and plug it into a USB port, chances are it will work. Printers are cheap. I got a new all-in-one color print/fax/copy Lexmark for $40. From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jun 18 18:00:00 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:00:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Stains on the Plastic In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46771C80.3020300@comcast.net> Brad Fornal wrote: > Does anyone know how to get shoe polish stains off of the plastic > bumpers and mouldings on a 2001 Escape? Paint thinner or bug/tar remover. NOT lacquer thinner or acetone, they will melt the plastic. This works for getting wax off the plastic parts of cars too. I just did the Jag this weekend and dewaxed the mirrors and rubber seals. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jun 18 18:07:17 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:07:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Another computer NO LBC question References: <43840a7e0706181513r1770f121t2bcd86b9bf0e1c54@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <019401c7b205$cc6fd450$0401a8c0@midget> > My memory is rusty, but I seem to recall that 98SE is a pretty > simple upgrade. Though I think there may be two different disks - One > is W98SE install, the other is W98SE upgrade?? Actually, Jim, there was no upgrade version. It is possible to do it as an upgrade (I emailed instructions to Daniel off-list), but there are a couple of gotchas. Yes, XP handles USB much better than 98 did, but as long as you install the Win98 drivers before connecting the equipment (assuming there ARE Win98 drivers for it), it worked fine. David Lieb From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jun 18 18:43:04 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:43:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hi Intensity Bulbs for Gauges In-Reply-To: <840519.24999.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <840519.24999.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46772698.8080901@comcast.net> James Gruber wrote: > anyone ever had trouble with that little switch that turns panel lamps on/off. I usually eliminate that little switch. I mean I never drive the Sprite with the dash lamps OFF. I just keep the switch (for looks) and connect all the wires together. I less device to let the smoke out of. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From millerls at ado13.com Mon Jun 18 19:19:32 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:19:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] New Bugzuki Pictures Message-ID: <05dc01c7b20f$e4f0d330$d280bc43@HP> Paint and stripes are finished. http://www.ado13.com/dohczuke/dohc.htm There is a shot of the dzus fastener's that hold the bonnet down. From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Mon Jun 18 19:27:27 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:27:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rib Case Gear box question In-Reply-To: <46771C80.3020300@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200706190127.l5J1RHS1002691@ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com> Hi- I'm attempting to reassemble the remote control assembly back to the gearbox, and I just can't seem to get the shaft to mesh up with the forks properly. I have the Haynes book and I just can't seem to find any hints on reassembly. I have no idea why the previous owner took this apart. Any hints? Thanks Chris From jerry.goodman at comcast.net Mon Jun 18 19:39:50 2007 From: jerry.goodman at comcast.net (Jerry Goodman) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:39:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New Bugzuki Pictures References: <05dc01c7b20f$e4f0d330$d280bc43@HP> Message-ID: <001801c7b212$babad3b0$6701a8c0@JERRYSCOMP> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry & Sandi Miller" To: "Bugeye" ; "Spridget" Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 8:19 PM Subject: [Spridgets] New Bugzuki Pictures > Paint and stripes are finished. > > http://www.ado13.com/dohczuke/dohc.htm > > There is a shot of the dzus fastener's that hold the bonnet down. > _______________________________________________ > jerry.goodman at comcast.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mconn2 at bright.net Mon Jun 18 19:44:29 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 21:44:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] New Bugzuki Pictures References: <05dc01c7b20f$e4f0d330$d280bc43@HP> Message-ID: <000601c7b213$61663740$1f34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Larry & Sandi, That's one neat looking car! Is that a Bugeye gear lever I see? Have you got a top speed yet? Great car. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry & Sandi Miller" To: "Bugeye" ; "Spridget" Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 9:19 PM Subject: [Spridgets] New Bugzuki Pictures > Paint and stripes are finished. > > http://www.ado13.com/dohczuke/dohc.htm > > There is a shot of the dzus fastener's that hold the bonnet down. > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From herby at herbytoys.com Mon Jun 18 19:45:37 2007 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:45:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tilt forward bonnet. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000601c7b213$8a7143f0$6501a8c0@HERBYZ> Somebody willing to try adapting this idea to a Bugeye (or even Spridget)? http://www.herbytoys.com/images/SFMOA07%20014.jpg Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com Jack, Speedwell sells a nice looking kit. Gerrard used to have the plans posted for a hinge that looks just like the one from Speedwell, but he is redoing his web site and the link I have no longer works. A bit more complex than the one Larry shows, but (perhaps) more sophisticated. Speedwell advertises that their kit needs no further support of the metal bonnet when open, kind of a nice feature. But Larry's hinge works and is a lot less complicated. Hal From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jun 18 19:47:11 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:47:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New Bugzuki Pictures References: <05dc01c7b20f$e4f0d330$d280bc43@HP> <000601c7b213$61663740$1f34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <01b201c7b213$c12d1b30$0401a8c0@midget> > Is that a Bugeye gear lever I see? > Have you got a top speed yet? Hard to do that without the speedometer... Oh wait, use your GPS ;-) Very purty car! Glad someone did this, but I can't decide whether I want it. Got a total $$$$$$ yet? From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jun 18 19:50:18 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:50:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tilt forward bonnet. References: <000601c7b213$8a7143f0$6501a8c0@HERBYZ> Message-ID: <01b601c7b214$30b88e80$0401a8c0@midget> > Somebody willing to try adapting this idea to a Bugeye (or even Spridget)? > http://www.herbytoys.com/images/SFMOA07%20014.jpg The bonnet lift or the Honda Vtec? From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jun 18 19:53:52 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 21:53:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Rib Case Gear box question In-Reply-To: <200706190127.l5J1RHS1002691@ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com> References: <200706190127.l5J1RHS1002691@ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <46773730.4090403@comcast.net> Chris Manuel wrote: > Hi- > > I'm attempting to reassemble the remote control assembly back to the > gearbox, and I just can't seem to get the shaft to mesh up with the forks > properly. This is a twist and hope type of assembly. If you step away for a bit and come back to it, it just drops in like the book says. I have done it several times, and it always makes me wonder. It just does not go no matter what, then after a break, it falls into place. But you do have to have all the forks in the neutral (lined up) position and just twist and wiggle. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From mconn2 at bright.net Mon Jun 18 19:57:26 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 21:57:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] New Bugzuki Pictures References: <05dc01c7b20f$e4f0d330$d280bc43@HP><000601c7b213$61663740$1f34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <01b201c7b213$c12d1b30$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <000c01c7b215$30b45350$1f34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> David, I think I'd like it, but, somehow, I know I couldn't afford it! Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New Bugzuki Pictures >> Is that a Bugeye gear lever I see? >> Have you got a top speed yet? > > Hard to do that without the speedometer... Oh wait, use your GPS ;-) > > Very purty car! Glad someone did this, but I can't decide whether I want > it. > Got a total $$$$$$ yet? > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From millerls at ado13.com Mon Jun 18 20:00:29 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:00:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] New Bugzuki Pictures References: <05dc01c7b20f$e4f0d330$d280bc43@HP> <000601c7b213$61663740$1f34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <061701c7b215$9d2ce150$d280bc43@HP> Cut down Samurai gear lever. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Conn" To: "Larry & Sandi Miller" Cc: "spridgets" Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New Bugzuki Pictures > Larry & Sandi, > > That's one neat looking car! > > Is that a Bugeye gear lever I see? > > Have you got a top speed yet? > > Great car. > > Michael > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry & Sandi Miller" > To: "Bugeye" ; "Spridget" > > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 9:19 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] New Bugzuki Pictures > > >> Paint and stripes are finished. From millerls at ado13.com Mon Jun 18 20:01:49 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:01:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] New Bugzuki Pictures References: <05dc01c7b20f$e4f0d330$d280bc43@HP><000601c7b213$61663740$1f34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <01b201c7b213$c12d1b30$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <061c01c7b215$cd1c4db0$d280bc43@HP> I'm never going to determine the cost. Sandi would probably have a heart attack if we ever added up all the receipts. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New Bugzuki Pictures >> Is that a Bugeye gear lever I see? >> Have you got a top speed yet? > > Hard to do that without the speedometer... Oh wait, use your GPS ;-) > > Very purty car! Glad someone did this, but I can't decide whether I want > it. > Got a total $$$$$$ yet? > _______________________________________________ From millerls at ado13.com Mon Jun 18 20:03:57 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:03:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] New Bugzuki Pictures References: <05dc01c7b20f$e4f0d330$d280bc43@HP> <000601c7b213$61663740$1f34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <062901c7b216$18edf0e0$d280bc43@HP> For me, top speed in a street Bugeye is around 100 MPH. Most warm 1275's will do that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Conn" To: "Larry & Sandi Miller" Cc: "spridgets" Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New Bugzuki Pictures > Larry & Sandi, > > That's one neat looking car! > > Is that a Bugeye gear lever I see? > > Have you got a top speed yet? > > Great car. > > Michael > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry & Sandi Miller" > To: "Bugeye" ; "Spridget" > > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 9:19 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] New Bugzuki Pictures > > >> Paint and stripes are finished. From cooper6 at swbell.net Mon Jun 18 20:05:34 2007 From: cooper6 at swbell.net (Martin) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 21:05:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New Bugzuki Pictures In-Reply-To: <061c01c7b215$cd1c4db0$d280bc43@HP> References: <05dc01c7b20f$e4f0d330$d280bc43@HP><000601c7b213$61663740$1f34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757><01b201c7b213$c12d1b30$0401a8c0@midget> <061c01c7b215$cd1c4db0$d280bc43@HP> Message-ID: <002a01c7b216$5427d630$6464fea9@cooper> Larry, How much fame changes had to be made and if someone wanted to follow your lead what would you have done different? Martin Cooper -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry & Sandi Miller Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 9:02 PM To: David Lieb; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New Bugzuki Pictures I'm never going to determine the cost. Sandi would probably have a heart attack if we ever added up all the receipts. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New Bugzuki Pictures >> Is that a Bugeye gear lever I see? >> Have you got a top speed yet? > > Hard to do that without the speedometer... Oh wait, use your GPS ;-) > > Very purty car! Glad someone did this, but I can't decide whether I want > it. > Got a total $$$$$$ yet? > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ cooper6 at swbell.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jun 18 20:06:07 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 21:06:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New Bugzuki Pictures References: <05dc01c7b20f$e4f0d330$d280bc43@HP><000601c7b213$61663740$1f34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <01b201c7b213$c12d1b30$0401a8c0@midget> <061c01c7b215$cd1c4db0$d280bc43@HP> Message-ID: <01c001c7b216$666f18d0$0401a8c0@midget> > I'm never going to determine the cost. Sandi would probably have a heart > attack if we ever added up all the receipts. I suspected as much ;-) I think that is the best way to do it. From millerls at ado13.com Mon Jun 18 20:22:15 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:22:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] New Bugzuki Pictures References: <05dc01c7b20f$e4f0d330$d280bc43@HP><000601c7b213$61663740$1f34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757><01b201c7b213$c12d1b30$0401a8c0@midget> <061c01c7b215$cd1c4db0$d280bc43@HP> <002a01c7b216$5427d630$6464fea9@cooper> Message-ID: <064801c7b218$a980ac90$d280bc43@HP> The center section (tranny mount) of the rear cross member and the heater box had to be removed. You could probably get away with keeping the heater box by using an angle drive (From Down Under) to reorient the dizzy. If I did it again I would change the way I made the engine/tranny mounts as they are too solid. In reality I probably would not do it again to a Spridget but maybe to a Mini. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin" To: "'Larry & Sandi Miller'" ; "'Spridgets'" Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 7:05 PM Subject: RE: [Spridgets] New Bugzuki Pictures > Larry, > > How much fame changes had to be made and if someone wanted to follow your > lead what would you have done different? > > Martin Cooper > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry & Sandi > Miller > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 9:02 PM > To: David Lieb; Spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New Bugzuki Pictures > > I'm never going to determine the cost. Sandi would probably have a heart > attack if we ever added up all the receipts. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Lieb" > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 6:47 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New Bugzuki Pictures > > >>> Is that a Bugeye gear lever I see? >>> Have you got a top speed yet? >> >> Hard to do that without the speedometer... Oh wait, use your GPS ;-) From herby at herbytoys.com Mon Jun 18 20:21:56 2007 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:21:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tilt forward bonnet. In-Reply-To: <01b601c7b214$30b88e80$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <000701c7b218$9c5a20a0$6501a8c0@HERBYZ> Both :) No, actually, the bonnet lift. Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com > Somebody willing to try adapting this idea to a Bugeye (or even Spridget)? > http://www.herbytoys.com/images/SFMOA07%20014.jpg The bonnet lift or the Honda Vtec? From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Mon Jun 18 20:49:56 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 21:49:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rib Case Gear box question In-Reply-To: <46773730.4090403@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200706190247.l5J2li8E025844@ms-smtp-03.rdc-kc.rr.com> Thanks- I think I'll wait a couple of moon phases. I wanted to dry fit it just to make sure I had all the parts, but I'll wait until I get some gaskets in. It appears I am missing a key and a welch plug so far on the remote shaft. Are these "universal" parts, or do I have to dig deeper and more specialized? Since I have this apart, are there any other pieces I should renew? I still wonder why it was separated, I pulled the gearbox cover and fortunately things look clean and not glittery or hacked up. Chris -----Original Message----- From: Frank Clarici [mailto:spritenut at comcast.net] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 8:54 PM To: Chris Manuel Cc: 'Spridget Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rib Case Gear box question Chris Manuel wrote: > Hi- > > I'm attempting to reassemble the remote control assembly back to the > gearbox, and I just can't seem to get the shaft to mesh up with the forks > properly. This is a twist and hope type of assembly. If you step away for a bit and come back to it, it just drops in like the book says. I have done it several times, and it always makes me wonder. It just does not go no matter what, then after a break, it falls into place. But you do have to have all the forks in the neutral (lined up) position and just twist and wiggle. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From wbmcleod at cox.net Mon Jun 18 21:26:56 2007 From: wbmcleod at cox.net (William McLeod) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:26:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Another computer NO LBC question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DB233A6-28F9-49D8-8F8F-49CFAAE70F72@cox.net> I have a windows XP Home and a Windows Me, both with correct numbers that I would be happy to donate, as well as a wide variety of software for both systems. I threw Windows the hell out of my life some time ago, and now run a mac laptop G4 and a PC laptop running Linux Ubuntu (completely downloadable for free) and don't have to worry about virii, worms and all that stuff any more! Both machines were bought used on ebay, cheap like borscht! Regards, Bill On Jun 18, 2007, at 2:58 PM, Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: > I think I might have found a printer that will work with W98 only > it wants > W98 SE. > > This PC has W98 but I do have an install disc for W98 SE. I > suppose the > printer will flat refuse to work with anything other than the SE > and I'll have to > install everything from scratch? (I'm software challanged). > > Also, does anyone have any original install software they want to > throw away > but could throw to me instead - I'm working on Word 97 that a > lister gave me > several years ago. > > Daniel 1312 - back to printer hunting From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Mon Jun 18 21:46:47 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:46:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Chrome References: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603305385@glitas07.garverinc.local><5f00d9910706181418h4429fa07m3c6c613bfbd5e4ff@mail.gmail.com> <4676F8FB.90203@woozy.com> Message-ID: <018e01c7b224$77662c60$f675fea9@p0k7l8> WOW! That's a lot of chrome for "If it don't go, chrome it!" There's a spin on oil filter attachment there too. They go for about $125 now. This is the original, not the leaky repro one. Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Weeks" To: "Spridget List" Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 2:28 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Chrome > Here's something you don't see every day: > > ebay item # 280124542852 > > > Robert From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Mon Jun 18 22:09:56 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 21:09:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Rib Case Gear box question References: <200706190127.l5J1RHS1002691@ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <01b601c7b227$b33656e0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Hi Chris, The remote has but one nylon or brass button to slip into a socket. Is that where you're having a problem? However, the rear case half is where the 3 shifter forks are located for what I think you're talking about. In that case, it's pretty easy to miss the three shifter forks lined up. If this is a rib case, you need to get the locating pin to the rear half lined up to the nearly correct spot so the rear case will settle down properly. The smooth case doesn't have that pin. In either setup, you need to use a finger in the shifter socket and with the rear case about 1/2" inch or so from the front case, you need to rotate the rear case enough so you can put the shifter lever into the 3 forks. Then you can rotate it back and settle it down onto the front case. Now, if you have used the proper shims on the rear bearing to jam it into the case, these will want to move around a bit. Use some sticky grease like wheel bearing grease to stick them to the outer ring of that bearing. That helps a lot, but still be prepared to do this operation again! And maybe again! And possibly then again! God luck, Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Manuel" To: "'Spridget Mailing List'" Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 6:27 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Rib Case Gear box question > Hi- > > I'm attempting to reassemble the remote control assembly back to the > gearbox, and I just can't seem to get the shaft to mesh up with the forks > properly. I have the Haynes book and I just can't seem to find any hints on > reassembly. > > I have no idea why the previous owner took this apart. > > Any hints? > > Thanks > Chris From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jun 18 20:47:09 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:47:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] BHF and Sussex, WI show, now Blackhawk In-Reply-To: <001201c7b1a3$32b2c230$98184690$@com> Message-ID: <399210.33061.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- "Wm. Severin Thompson" wrote: > with the car. Ron's car > definitely has been to the horsepower store, and > he's driving it like he > stole it. Thanks, I think. Same motor as last year, torque-ier cam. I had tremendous fun chasing Uncle Jack and Jim Fuerstenberg in the Turner. In yesterday's feature, for those who may have wondered what the hell was going on with my car, I lost the clutch hydraulics 5 or 6 laps into it, and drove the rest of the race in 4th gear. It was actually kind of fun, except for turn 7. Ron Soave "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain ____________________________________________________________________________________ Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Mon Jun 18 22:03:14 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 21:03:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Chrome In-Reply-To: <018e01c7b224$77662c60$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <952439.61236.qm@web38912.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I had a friend who lived with a guy that worked at a Chrome shop. They even had a chrome can opener amoung other things you do not see chromed. I asked him what was up with all the chrome. He told me that his room mate gets board at work and chromed about every thing you can think of putting the coating on. He said the guy had more chrome on his car then he had ever seen before. When i asked if the car was a hot rod. He said no it was a 1954 willys knight Paul Asgeirsson wrote: WOW! That's a lot of chrome for "If it don't go, chrome it!" There's a spin on oil filter attachment there too. They go for about $125 now. This is the original, not the leaky repro one. Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Weeks" To: "Spridget List" Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 2:28 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Chrome > Here's something you don't see every day: > > ebay item # 280124542852 > > > Robert _______________________________________________ uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jun 19 05:51:58 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 06:51:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Chrome References: <952439.61236.qm@web38912.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <01dc01c7b268$3e4bb3c0$0401a8c0@midget> > Paul Asgeirsson wrote: WOW! That's a lot > of chrome for "If it don't go, chrome it!" There's a > spin on oil filter attachment there too. They go for about $125 now. This > is the original, not the leaky repro one. Still looked like a mighty high starting bid for a buncha spare parts from a 74 Midget. It didn't look to me like there was anything in the pile which had any more chrome than when it came from the factory; just looked like he had gathered all the chrome bits he could take off the car, added a few other chunks of "white metal" and threw them in a box... I loved his remark to the question about the windshield, "I know what these things are worth..." David Lieb From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Tue Jun 19 09:03:26 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 08:03:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Chrome References: <952439.61236.qm@web38912.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <01dc01c7b268$3e4bb3c0$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <005701c7b282$fe519300$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Ahh yes! The value of an auction to tell it's true worth! Ebay is the closet we'll see for an auction for this stuff. Sure would like that spin on oil fiter, though!! Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 4:51 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Chrome > ... I loved his remark > to the question about the windshield, "I know what these things are > worth..." > David Lieb From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Tue Jun 19 11:03:41 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:03:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] forward tilt Dzuz photos Message-ID: <000601c7b293$c9cb0290$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> OK, I finally got both the camera and a working internet connection into the same room, so here are the photos of how I hold down the forward tilt bonnet with Dzuz fasteners. It hurts to post these with the big fata$$ chips in the paint and the shop dirt and crap in every crevice, but I guess its more realistic to see it as it usually is. http://home.comcast.net/~byrns.family/wsb/html/view.cgi-photos.html-.html Glen Byrns From Daniel1312 at aol.com Tue Jun 19 14:15:28 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:15:28 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Computer printer update NO LBC Message-ID: Hi List, I eventually found a printer that will run off plain w98 rather than w98SE and bought it this evening. Of course when I get it out of the box it turns out while it may well run on plain w98 the driver disk specifies w98SE. So, I followed David's instructions and now have w98SE installed and running OK (maybe some minor issues to bottom out?). However, while it was NECESSARY to buy ink for the printer I found that some came with the printer anyway which is more than can be said for a USB lead. So, it will be tomorrow or whenever I get the lead that I'll have finished this job. Thanks for the help so far. Regards Daniel1312 From Daniel1312 at aol.com Tue Jun 19 15:38:41 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:38:41 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Another computer question - NO LBC Message-ID: The onboard sound on my PC has never worked and the sound card I bought was known to cause problems (chipset conflict?). So, while I'm doing 'stuff' to the PC I thought maybe the list wisdom can bottom the problem. I think the issue is that I while I have a driver disk for the board (this was a self built PC at the limit of my ability) I can't found out what the name of the sound card is to install a driver for it. I must be doing something wrong because I thought it would install automatically. Thanks Daniel From kevin at valentinephoto.net Tue Jun 19 15:41:22 2007 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:41:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Capacity 1500 Message-ID: <86B2F9B7-882C-4FF6-9017-EC7A77B23B2B@valentinephoto.net> Hey, What is the oil capacity (including filter) for the 1500 engine? Thanks, Kevin V. From mconn2 at bright.net Tue Jun 19 16:55:40 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 18:55:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1500 1976 Midget References: <002801c79cbc$25938cc0$2f34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <5f00d9910705221503g2a8651ebod70f09fac90e47fc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <006101c7b2c4$f5fb9bf0$9daeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> Derf, My friend replaced the alternator as you suggested, and all is now well in that area. My friend thanks you for your help. Having got the vehicle back on the road it will try to die on him at, say, traffic lights. To keep it going he has to press down on the gas pedal. The vehicle back-fires when he switches off. Sounds like dirt in the fuel system, maybe water in the system from standing so long and/or old gas. Any thoughts, please? Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "Michael Conn" Cc: "spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 6:03 PM Subject: Re: 1500 1976 Midget > Bad diode in alternator, probably. Get new alternator. From mconn2 at bright.net Tue Jun 19 17:14:12 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:14:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1500 1976 Midget References: <002801c79cbc$25938cc0$2f34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <5f00d9910705221503g2a8651ebod70f09fac90e47fc@mail.gmail.com> <006101c7b2c4$f5fb9bf0$9daeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> <4678608A.3010302@verizon.net> Message-ID: <000d01c7b2c7$8cf43880$9daeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> Charley, Yes, we did. All except for the fuel filter in line before the pump. I tell him about that tomorrow. Thanks for your help. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charley Braum" To: "Michael Conn" Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1500 1976 Midget > I'd take a look at the timing first (maybe just to eliminate that as a > potential situation) then drain and blow out the fuel system (didn't you > and I go through this in a previous life?) and install a NAPA glass > housing fuel filter in the line before the pump to assess the tank > condition. > > Good luck, > > CB From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Tue Jun 19 17:34:35 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:34:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Capacity 1500 In-Reply-To: <86B2F9B7-882C-4FF6-9017-EC7A77B23B2B@valentinephoto.net> References: <86B2F9B7-882C-4FF6-9017-EC7A77B23B2B@valentinephoto.net> Message-ID: Just under 4.5 qts. Larry On Jun 19, 2007, at 5:41 PM, K. Valentine wrote: > Hey, > > What is the oil capacity (including filter) for the 1500 engine? > > Thanks, > > Kevin V. > -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at bbl.med.upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jun 19 17:43:27 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:43:27 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 1500 1976 Midget In-Reply-To: <006101c7b2c4$f5fb9bf0$9daeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> References: <002801c79cbc$25938cc0$2f34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <5f00d9910705221503g2a8651ebod70f09fac90e47fc@mail.gmail.com> <006101c7b2c4$f5fb9bf0$9daeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706191643m55bd0081w332156126ac2d028@mail.gmail.com> Start with the basic tune-up: carb and ignition. Go from there. A carb kit and new cap, rotor, and wires may solve problems. Cheers, Derf From pythias at pacifier.com Tue Jun 19 17:58:25 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:58:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Another computer question - NO LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1497845710.20070619165825@pacifier.com> Hello Daniel1312, over the years i've found the following to be true.. if you don't have a soundblaster brand sound board, you'll have problems. others come and go, some motherboards have chipsets, etc, but there are ALWAYS conflicts, no sound, the "fuzzies", resource allocation issues, .. something... you can get a soundblaster value edition audigy for not much $$$ and your problems go away. . .forever. -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jun 19 18:04:15 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:04:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Another computer question - NO LBC References: <1497845710.20070619165825@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <01f101c7b2ce$8a6ced30$0401a8c0@midget> > over the years i've found the following to be true.. > if you don't have a soundblaster brand sound board, you'll have > problems. others come and go, some motherboards have chipsets, etc, > but > there are ALWAYS conflicts, no sound, the "fuzzies", resource > allocation issues, .. something... I couldn't have said it better myself! From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jun 19 18:12:24 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 18:12:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Another computer question - NO LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706191712g70d854a5ue2b4b5aee89b8efd@mail.gmail.com> Dude, get a Dell. Plug the purple ended cord into the purple hole. Plug the pink ended cord into the pink hole. Etc., Etc. Turn it on. Lose all the extra baggage software. Get Mozilla Firefox (free). Get a gmail account (free). Don't worry. Be Happy. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jun 19 18:18:16 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:18:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Another computer question - NO LBC References: <5f00d9910706191712g70d854a5ue2b4b5aee89b8efd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <01f501c7b2d0$8001ece0$0401a8c0@midget> > Dude, get a Dell. Somebody has started believing brain-dead commercials again ;-) From p.herder at cox.net Tue Jun 19 18:19:44 2007 From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:19:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Another computer question - NO LBC In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706191712g70d854a5ue2b4b5aee89b8efd@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910706191712g70d854a5ue2b4b5aee89b8efd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000c01c7b2d0$b3e7c0c0$1bb74240$@herder@cox.net> Better yet, Get a Dell with Ubuntu (Linux). http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/linux_3x?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s= dhs or http://tinyurl.com/2josfz Paul (windoze Weinie - hey! It's my job supporting 'em!) -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of derf Dude, get a Dell. Plug the purple ended cord into the purple hole. Plug the pink ended cord into the pink hole. Etc., Etc. Turn it on. Lose all the extra baggage software. Get Mozilla Firefox (free). Get a gmail account (free). Don't worry. Be Happy. From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jun 19 18:24:18 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 18:24:18 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Another computer question - NO LBC In-Reply-To: <01f501c7b2d0$8001ece0$0401a8c0@midget> References: <5f00d9910706191712g70d854a5ue2b4b5aee89b8efd@mail.gmail.com> <01f501c7b2d0$8001ece0$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706191724n6762cc6se4102d6bfa557cfb@mail.gmail.com> Nope, just a satisfied customer. Also, at work I see graphic designers with heavy duty Macs pushing files around through Dell servers. Dell has good products. Getting something like an eMachine is just shooting yourself in the foot from the start. > > Somebody has started believing brain-dead commercials again ;-) From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Jun 19 19:34:09 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 20:34:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Stains on the Plastic In-Reply-To: <46771C80.3020300@comcast.net> References: <46771C80.3020300@comcast.net> Message-ID: My greatest thanks to everyone that responded with suggestions on how to remove the shoe polish from plastic. While the warm soapy water with ammonia worked to some degree, the magic eraser was the true ticket to getting things off. Thank you again for all your help. Brad On 6/18/07, Frank Clarici wrote: > Brad Fornal wrote: > > Does anyone know how to get shoe polish stains off of the plastic > > bumpers and mouldings on a 2001 Escape? > > Paint thinner or bug/tar remover. > NOT lacquer thinner or acetone, they will melt the plastic. > This works for getting wax off the plastic parts of cars too. > I just did the Jag this weekend and dewaxed the mirrors and rubber seals. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jun 19 19:39:02 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:39:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Another computer question - NO LBC In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706191712g70d854a5ue2b4b5aee89b8efd@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910706191712g70d854a5ue2b4b5aee89b8efd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46788536.50305@comcast.net> derf wrote: > Dude, get a Dell. > Plug the purple ended cord into the purple hole. > Plug the pink ended cord into the pink hole. And wait for the smoke. Mine smoked right out of the box, so they fixed it. And it smoked before the techie got to his car. So they got it back. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jun 19 19:48:10 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:48:10 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Another computer question - NO LBC In-Reply-To: <46788536.50305@comcast.net> References: <5f00d9910706191712g70d854a5ue2b4b5aee89b8efd@mail.gmail.com> <46788536.50305@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706191848n6fd29674wef02c7ba823e5796@mail.gmail.com> You should be a paid product tester. EVERYTHING breaks on you. From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jun 19 19:51:10 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:51:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Another computer question - NO LBC In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706191848n6fd29674wef02c7ba823e5796@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910706191712g70d854a5ue2b4b5aee89b8efd@mail.gmail.com> <46788536.50305@comcast.net> <5f00d9910706191848n6fd29674wef02c7ba823e5796@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4678880E.4050003@comcast.net> derf wrote: > You should be a paid product tester. EVERYTHING breaks on you. Only the crap made in china. Hey they can't make toothpaste or dogfood, why would anybody buy something electrical or mechanical from them? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Jun 19 20:07:55 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:07:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Another computer question - NO LBC References: <5f00d9910706191712g70d854a5ue2b4b5aee89b8efd@mail.gmail.com> <46788536.50305@comcast.net> Message-ID: <053701c7b2df$d1dcad20$6401a8c0@Larry> My excellent adventure with Dell is that I ordered a laptop over the phone. The lady who took my order told me to wait after I gave my order and then came back with all these extras that she said were on sale and included for no extra charge. I gave them the go-ahead to ship the computer as ordered and ended up getting charged on my credit card for over $800 more than the agreed upon price. Subsequent discussions with them regarding the discrepancy resulted in my telling them that I taped the whole transaction on my phone and them telling me that my tape is not admissible in court. (BS, it is admissible in this state.) Note that they didn't dispute their fraudulent transaction -- only that my proof was not admissible in court. Upon my proof of their fraud, they agreed to refund my money. If any Dell employees are on this list, I invite you to inform your company of my defamatory statements. I still have the tapes and would love to meet you in court. NEVER buy from Dell! They are nothing but effing crooks. Dell, please come sue me. I love a good fight. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" To: "derf" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another computer question - NO LBC derf wrote: > Dude, get a Dell. > Plug the purple ended cord into the purple hole. > Plug the pink ended cord into the pink hole. And wait for the smoke. Mine smoked right out of the box, so they fixed it. And it smoked before the techie got to his car. So they got it back. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jun 19 20:14:57 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 20:14:57 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Another computer question - NO LBC In-Reply-To: <053701c7b2df$d1dcad20$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <5f00d9910706191712g70d854a5ue2b4b5aee89b8efd@mail.gmail.com> <46788536.50305@comcast.net> <053701c7b2df$d1dcad20$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706191914j3a040ccl59f1d0f615906292@mail.gmail.com> Tapes are admissible in this state so long as one of the parties in the conversation knows about the taping. I went online, picked what I wanted, paid for it, plugged it in, and voila. It has been working for a few years now. I was a masochist and built my two previous computers from bare bones parts. Now I either buy a Dell or call a friend who is a computer nerd and tell him what I want. Cheers, Derf On 6/19/07, Larry Daniels wrote: > My excellent adventure with Dell is that I ordered a laptop over the phone. > The lady who took my order told me to wait after I gave my order and then > came back with all these extras that she said were on sale and included for > no extra charge. > > I gave them the go-ahead to ship the computer as ordered and ended up > getting charged on my credit card for over $800 more than the agreed upon > price. Subsequent discussions with them regarding the discrepancy resulted > in my telling them that I taped the whole transaction on my phone and them > telling me that my tape is not admissible in court. (BS, it is admissible > in this state.) Note that they didn't dispute their fraudulent > transaction -- only that my proof was not admissible in court. Upon my proof > of their fraud, they agreed to refund my money. > > If any Dell employees are on this list, I invite you to inform your company > of my defamatory statements. I still have the tapes and would love to meet > you in court. > > NEVER buy from Dell! They are nothing but effing crooks. Dell, please come > sue me. I love a good fight. > > > LAD > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frank Clarici" > To: "derf" > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:39 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another computer question - NO LBC > > > derf wrote: > > Dude, get a Dell. > > Plug the purple ended cord into the purple hole. > > Plug the pink ended cord into the pink hole. > > And wait for the smoke. > Mine smoked right out of the box, so they fixed it. > And it smoked before the techie got to his car. > So they got it back. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Tue Jun 19 20:19:21 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:19:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rib Case Gear box question now glass In-Reply-To: <46773730.4090403@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200706200217.l5K2H8hJ003477@ms-smtp-03.rdc-kc.rr.com> Fun day...since I had way too much fun (and no success yet...)with the remote assembly, I went on to put the doors on and re-install the window mechs. Much like everything else it seems, the book was poor, the fist door took forever, and the second took less than a beer. All of my parts were in paper grocery bags. So I went back to the first and put in more parts that were found in the same bag as the other door. Wild-windows and doors that are aligned and roll up and down with little effort. I have missed that in the past 10 years of cars. So now a couple of questions- It appears I am missing the window felt/fuzz strips. Will I have to take the windows out again to install those? The top trim piece on the doors do not have screws, just a channel. Are there clips for those? No window removal needed, right? The driver's door inside latch does not seem to open enough to unlatch the door if I screw it down (if I let the lever go past the door indentation, it will open). Is there an adjustment or is it just worn? Again, no window removal needed, right :) Chris From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Jun 19 20:20:35 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:20:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Another computer question - NO LBC References: <5f00d9910706191712g70d854a5ue2b4b5aee89b8efd@mail.gmail.com><46788536.50305@comcast.net> <053701c7b2df$d1dcad20$6401a8c0@Larry> <5f00d9910706191914j3a040ccl59f1d0f615906292@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <054601c7b2e1$96fbf970$6401a8c0@Larry> Same deal here. As long as one of the parties knows it is being taped, it is legal. I'm the one who knew it was being taped. Please, Dell, sue me. I am telling the world that you are crooks. Sue me. Please. My attorneys need the work. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another computer question - NO LBC Tapes are admissible in this state so long as one of the parties in the conversation knows about the taping. I went online, picked what I wanted, paid for it, plugged it in, and voila. It has been working for a few years now. I was a masochist and built my two previous computers from bare bones parts. Now I either buy a Dell or call a friend who is a computer nerd and tell him what I want. Cheers, Derf On 6/19/07, Larry Daniels wrote: > My excellent adventure with Dell is that I ordered a laptop over the > phone. > The lady who took my order told me to wait after I gave my order and then > came back with all these extras that she said were on sale and included > for > no extra charge. > > I gave them the go-ahead to ship the computer as ordered and ended up > getting charged on my credit card for over $800 more than the agreed upon > price. Subsequent discussions with them regarding the discrepancy > resulted > in my telling them that I taped the whole transaction on my phone and them > telling me that my tape is not admissible in court. (BS, it is admissible > in this state.) Note that they didn't dispute their fraudulent > transaction -- only that my proof was not admissible in court. Upon my > proof > of their fraud, they agreed to refund my money. > > If any Dell employees are on this list, I invite you to inform your > company > of my defamatory statements. I still have the tapes and would love to > meet > you in court. > > NEVER buy from Dell! They are nothing but effing crooks. Dell, please > come > sue me. I love a good fight. > > > LAD From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Tue Jun 19 20:27:39 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:27:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Another computer question - NO LBC In-Reply-To: <053701c7b2df$d1dcad20$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <200706200227.l5K2RTC8029327@ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com> Yeah, Dell is not what it was, but neither are many of the other PC manufacturers. But, we bought them enterprise wide for our company in the more fun days so were stuck until we have to retire them to plan. We're moving more towards the IBM and Levono hardware. Oh I got some fun questions to ask India Dell if you have to call their support. Fun enough I won't publish them here. It really throws them off their script. As mentioned earlier by others, take a serious at the latest Linux Ubuntu release. It brought back life to an old Dell laptop, and is *almost* as stable as my OS X Mac workstations. It has everything you need, and installs itself easy-almost easier than XP. Chris From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jun 19 20:34:28 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:34:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Another computer question - NO LBC References: <200706200227.l5K2RTC8029327@ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <024201c7b2e3$86c00540$0401a8c0@midget> > As mentioned earlier by others, take a serious at the latest Linux Ubuntu > release. It brought back life to an old Dell laptop, and is *almost* as > stable as my OS X Mac workstations. It has everything you need, and > installs itself easy-almost easier than XP. Or look at Freespire... From type79 at ix.netcom.com Tue Jun 19 20:47:29 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:47:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Another computer question - NO LBC Message-ID: <4877549.1182307649231.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Guys, The simple truth is that by-and-large, there is no such thing as service anymore, nor accountability. The consumer is wrong unless proven otherwise. The employee is always right. They can treat the consumer however they choose with little or no consequence. This is the age of minimal profit per transaction and an environment in which the buyer and seller seldom meet face-to-face. We are all to blame as we all search for the best deal. We will deal with anyone for a 1% difference in price. We will deal with companies with employees we will never meet or in many cases never speak to more than once. In many cases, the larger the company the worse the service. So the next time you'll buy from another large computer vendor and if you scratch the surface, you will find similar accounts of poor service. Have a bad experience with a cellular phone company? Why switch, they're all the same. Phone service? We have to talk to a part-time person who reads screen text to us whether it applies to the problem or not. Insurance? Want to save money? Call one of the direct companies or the one with the funny ads. You might get shorted on the coverage, but you'll save money. Not to worry, you'll never talk to the same $10.00 an hour employee again. I recently purchased tires for my MINI from the largest tire retailer in CT. They scratched the wheels. I go into the store and the first reaction/response from the manager was that it couldn't be/couldn't have happened there/there mechanic couldn't have done that. (Loooooong story, but their corporate office finally replaced the wheels.) Disgusting but that's the way it is and that's the way it's going to remain. Thank you Ralph Nader. You made the world a better place. jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ -----Original Message----- >From: Larry Daniels >Sent: Jun 19, 2007 10:07 PM >To: Frank Clarici , derf >Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another computer question - NO LBC > >My excellent adventure with Dell is that I ordered a laptop over the phone. >The lady who took my order told me to wait after I gave my order and then >came back with all these extras that she said were on sale and included for >no extra charge. > >I gave them the go-ahead to ship the computer as ordered and ended up >getting charged on my credit card for over $800 more than the agreed upon >price. Subsequent discussions with them regarding the discrepancy resulted >in my telling them that I taped the whole transaction on my phone and them >telling me that my tape is not admissible in court. (BS, it is admissible >in this state.) Note that they didn't dispute their fraudulent >transaction -- only that my proof was not admissible in court. Upon my proof >of their fraud, they agreed to refund my money. > >If any Dell employees are on this list, I invite you to inform your company >of my defamatory statements. I still have the tapes and would love to meet >you in court. > >NEVER buy from Dell! They are nothing but effing crooks. Dell, please come >sue me. I love a good fight. From herby at herbytoys.com Tue Jun 19 21:12:29 2007 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 20:12:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Another computer question - NO LBC In-Reply-To: <200706200227.l5K2RTC8029327@ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <000a01c7b2e8$da3ce850$6501a8c0@HERBYZ> We've found just asking them simple questions flusters them. Like "your name's not really Bob is it?" "So what is your real name" "How's the weather in Mumbai?" My wife just had a good one with HP "help". We've had a problem with our 4 in 1 printer (that's the first problem I know!) so she called. After 1-1/2 hours of trying everything he says "I cannot help you, your printer is defective", and without missing a beat, "Can I tell you about all the wonderful new HP printers we have". At that point she said no and hung up. Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com Oh I got some fun questions to ask India Dell if you have to call their support. Fun enough I won't publish them here. It really throws them off their script. From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Jun 18 06:21:25 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 07:21:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] BHF and Sussex, WI show, now Blackhawk In-Reply-To: <01b701c7b152$301537c0$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <542275.69312.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <01b701c7b152$301537c0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <001201c7b1a3$32b2c230$98184690$@com> Yeah Larry... what was missing was talent... but that's nothing new. It was so f'in hot... even wearing a cool suit (pumps ice water thru a t-shirt with capillary tubes in it) I was hoping for the 1 lap to go flag at least 10 laps before the end of Saturday's enduro or Sunday's AM feature race. The older I get, the less I can take that kind of heat. Elmo correctly diagnosed a faulty cap on my radiator's expansion tank. I did actually finish 2 lengthy sessions, which is a break with recent tradition. I'm running what is essentially by "backup" motor. It needs a better cylinder head. My cam choice wasn't the best. It's a Comptune grind with the power band a little too high... not enough grunt coming out of the corners. Colby uses that particular grind for his 1275/1380 race motors, but the 948 doesn't have enough torque to pull it off. I'll find one of my normal 75-12 Elgin cams, or maybe use a factory race 649 cam I've got here to use in this motor. Between the 96 degree heat Sat., and 5 year old race tires (I had to stop and think when I bought them, and it was the first time I ran Mid-Ohio), my handling was going away after 3 laps. I managed to pass enough cars to make the races satisfying, but I couldn't push it very hard. There was a blue Alpine that I managed to catch, but couldn't pass. I'm not sure, but Burt Levy may have been mooching a ride in it. The car was taking a peculiar line, which, since its rear wheel drive, may be the right line for the car. But, twice I was even with it on the inside of the corner, and had the door slammed on me, putting me in the grass. I backed off, and watch Jack Drews suffer the same fate as he tried to pass the Alpine. I saw him put in the grass at least twice. I knew that even if I did get by, with my shit tires, it would be a nut pull to stay ahead. Ron and Jeff were going like stink. You've got to give credit to Jeff for his bullet proof car prep. He rarely has to mess with the car. Ron's car definitely has been to the horsepower store, and he's driving it like he stole it. Ron had clutch/trans issues, but kept it running all weekend. Mal Fay ran all weekend. John "big rig" Bauer kept shedding expensive race axles like James Bond's DB5 Aston Martin, with the axle sticking out the side of the car (dangerously). John hasn't figured out that double bearings are the key to success. John Spinnader's car made the track after some wrenching to get his head gasket and head studs to seal correctly. Chris "No Show" Ducklow didn't make Sunday's race due to a failed clutch. Paul "Otis" Fitzsimmons had brake issues and didn't get much track time. Tony Donato helped with food and car prep. Its always good to se him. Elmo's car filled its Oberg filter with sparkly bearing dust, and his race weekend was over. But, his troubles weren't over. They packed up and left the track at 9pm, after the party. They didn't get home until 5am due to a failed leaf spring on his trailer. It shredded a tire, and tore up the spring mounts on the frame. Jim ended up strapping a block of wood to the axle and limping home. Our feature race was at 10:20, and we were all packed up and ready to go right after the race. We were home by 2, which, after all that heat, was home sweet (air conditioned) home. WST (VSCDA rule rant forthcoming) -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 9:42 PM To: Ron Soave; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BHF and Sussex, WI show Perfect weekend though. Biggest HOLY SH!T was seeing an El Camino with "AH BJ7" (approximately) license plates pull into the paddock, and Just Ed pops out! Very cool - thanks for coming, Ed. Ron ================================= Yeah, Ed, why didn't you stick around? We had plenty of adult beverages. Flounder's "Thicktones" serenaded us until we couldn't stand it any longer -- even with mass quantities of Miller Lite. His "Big Dog", Hoss, wasn't there to take over lead vocals this time. We all knew something was missing. LD From cooper6 at swbell.net Wed Jun 20 02:09:23 2007 From: cooper6 at swbell.net (Martin) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 03:09:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Another computer question - NO LBC In-Reply-To: <053701c7b2df$d1dcad20$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <5f00d9910706191712g70d854a5ue2b4b5aee89b8efd@mail.gmail.com><46788536.50305@comcast.net> <053701c7b2df$d1dcad20$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <005101c7b312$51bf8e40$6464fea9@cooper> Larry, Some of us that work for Dell are not like the person to whom you worked with. If you have the person's name that you worked with I would have escalated it to their supervisor or even to Michael Dell. This person is not your typical Dell employee and he or she would do the same thing no matter whom they worked for. Martin Cooper -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 9:08 PM To: Frank Clarici; derf Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another computer question - NO LBC My excellent adventure with Dell is that I ordered a laptop over the phone. The lady who took my order told me to wait after I gave my order and then came back with all these extras that she said were on sale and included for no extra charge. I gave them the go-ahead to ship the computer as ordered and ended up getting charged on my credit card for over $800 more than the agreed upon price. Subsequent discussions with them regarding the discrepancy resulted in my telling them that I taped the whole transaction on my phone and them telling me that my tape is not admissible in court. (BS, it is admissible in this state.) Note that they didn't dispute their fraudulent transaction -- only that my proof was not admissible in court. Upon my proof of their fraud, they agreed to refund my money. If any Dell employees are on this list, I invite you to inform your company of my defamatory statements. I still have the tapes and would love to meet you in court. NEVER buy from Dell! They are nothing but effing crooks. Dell, please come sue me. I love a good fight. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" To: "derf" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another computer question - NO LBC derf wrote: > Dude, get a Dell. > Plug the purple ended cord into the purple hole. > Plug the pink ended cord into the pink hole. And wait for the smoke. Mine smoked right out of the box, so they fixed it. And it smoked before the techie got to his car. So they got it back. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ _______________________________________________ cooper6 at swbell.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 20 08:20:03 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 08:20:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Another computer question - NO LBC In-Reply-To: <4877549.1182307649231.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <4877549.1182307649231.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706200720oc7a82a4rfc54244bc2b62d99@mail.gmail.com> I'm in Louisiana, home of the Napoleonic Code. I have my tire work done at a ratty tire shop that used to be a gas station. The workers hustle there. You don't wait three hours for them to do the work. The owner does some work. When I go in he usually does my stuff. He wanted to make sure my Magnesium wheels were handled properly. He handles mounting on my alloys. He makes sure they are balanced properly, with weights on the inside. Hard work and good customer service have me coming back and sending others. Although, to look at the place, you wouldn't think they're the best in town. From cweber at advanced-input.com Wed Jun 20 10:30:38 2007 From: cweber at advanced-input.com (Weber, Chris) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:30:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] midget transplant Message-ID: <7C9C8BBE838DE040B781A55CD6D3FBC20287A404@ms-cda-02.advanced-input.com> I am placing the motor/tranny and disk brakes out of a '74 Midget into my Bugeye. Is there any reason I should/shouldn't go ahead and do the rear end as well? Any other pieces to grab I am forgetting? I plan to put all the bugeye parts back into the Midget as I would like to sell it and get it out of my garage. Any reason why this wouldn't work? Thanks! Chris '60 Bugeye From John.Deikis at va.gov Wed Jun 20 10:24:56 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:24:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Still looking for a 1275 filter head Message-ID: Before I send my cash to Moss, a final effort to find a spin-on oil filter head for a 1275 A-series motor. You racers with remote filters...you must have still have the part you took off of the side of your block laying around somewhere. Time to sell it! Email if you can help me out. Thanks. JohnD From type79 at ix.netcom.com Wed Jun 20 10:48:58 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:48:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] midget transplant Message-ID: <24420446.1182358138614.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> If you mean the pumpkin, you can do that, which would give you a 3.9 ratio which is better for highway cruising in place of the 4.22 which gives you more low end torque. If you meant the entire axle, you can't do that without mosdification of the axle carrier and there is no reason to do so. jay fishbein wallingford, ct home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ -----Original Message----- >From: "Weber, Chris" >Sent: Jun 20, 2007 12:30 PM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: [Spridgets] midget transplant > >I am placing the motor/tranny and disk brakes out of a '74 Midget into >my Bugeye. >Is there any reason I should/shouldn't go ahead and do the rear end as >well? From peter at nosimport.com Wed Jun 20 10:50:33 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 11:50:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] midget transplant In-Reply-To: <7C9C8BBE838DE040B781A55CD6D3FBC20287A404@ms-cda-02.advance d-input.com> References: <7C9C8BBE838DE040B781A55CD6D3FBC20287A404@ms-cda-02.advanced-input.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070620114601.036f2e10@nosimport.com> Chris, There are some difficulties major, and minor, or installing later rear ends in Bugeyes. Springs and their mountings are completely different requiring major surgery for no gain. Don't do it. Minor difficulties are brakes. Maybe justifiable for some uses, but unless there's a compelling reason, not worth the effort. Peter C Lord, I pray my brakes are twice as good as the guy in front of me.... ... and half as good as the guy behind. == At 11:30 AM 6/20/2007, Weber, Chris wrote: >I am placing the motor/tranny and disk brakes out of a '74 Midget into >my Bugeye. > > > >Is there any reason I should/shouldn't go ahead and do the rear end as >well? > > > >Any other pieces to grab I am forgetting? > > > >I plan to put all the bugeye parts back into the Midget as I would like >to sell it and get it out of my garage. Any reason why this wouldn't >work? > > > >Thanks! > > > >Chris > >'60 Bugeye >_______________________________________________ >peter at nosimport.com From cweber at advanced-input.com Wed Jun 20 10:55:05 2007 From: cweber at advanced-input.com (Weber, Chris) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:55:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] midget transplant In-Reply-To: <24420446.1182358138614.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <7C9C8BBE838DE040B781A55CD6D3FBC20287A40A@ms-cda-02.advanced-input.com> Thanks, What are the benefits of the later rear brakes? Are they a straight forward swap? -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of type79 at ix.netcom.com Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 9:49 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] midget transplant If you mean the pumpkin, you can do that, which would give you a 3.9 ratio which is better for highway cruising in place of the 4.22 which gives you more low end torque. If you meant the entire axle, you can't do that without mosdification of the axle carrier and there is no reason to do so. jay fishbein wallingford, ct home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ -----Original Message----- >From: "Weber, Chris" >Sent: Jun 20, 2007 12:30 PM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: [Spridgets] midget transplant > >I am placing the motor/tranny and disk brakes out of a '74 Midget into >my Bugeye. >Is there any reason I should/shouldn't go ahead and do the rear end as >well? _______________________________________________ cweber at advanced-input.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jun 20 11:03:44 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:03:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] midget transplant References: <7C9C8BBE838DE040B781A55CD6D3FBC20287A40A@ms-cda-02.advanced-input.com> Message-ID: <00c301c7b35c$f8835c30$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> IMHO, Swap in the centersection as well as the half-shafts(!), replace the outer bearings while you are at it and you should be able to install the 1974 brakes from the backing plate out. Since you were already going to go to either Frank or Gerard for a proper 1967 (I think) single circuit, disk brake ready master cylinder, you will be fine. David Lieb 1972 NON-Donor From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jun 20 11:10:55 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:10:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] midget transplant References: <7C9C8BBE838DE040B781A55CD6D3FBC20287A404@ms-cda-02.advanced-input.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070620114601.036f2e10@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <00c601c7b35d$f731b970$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > There are some difficulties major, and minor, or installing > later rear ends in Bugeyes. > Springs and their mountings are completely different requiring major > surgery for no gain. Don't do it. Minor difficulties are brakes. > Maybe justifiable for some uses, but unless there's a compelling > reason, not worth the effort. What?! and miss out on the glorious opportunity to dial in some negative camber? ;-) Flash From thcollin at mtu.edu Wed Jun 20 13:51:00 2007 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:51:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Religion and Spridgets List Message-ID: <60324o$9r9gg@email.mtu.edu> I am not of the Catholic religion persuasion, but I was perusing the latest document from Rome on the "Guidelines on Pastoral Care of the Road." This section caught my eye among many. Looks like we are all in trouble for breaking this commandment! Rome must have had this list in mind since it specifically refers to the "not so young." I think if one reads between the lines, this includes all mention of "lap times" too. LOL Vanity and personal glorification 26. Cars particularly lend themselves to being used by their owners to show off, and as a means for outshining other people and arousing a feeling of envy. People thus identify themselves with their cars and project assertion of their egos onto them. When we praise our cars we are, in fact, praising ourselves, because they belong to us and, above all, we drive them. Many motorists, including the not so young, boast with great pleasure of records broken and high speeds achieved, and it is easy to see that they cannot stand being considered as bad drivers, even though they may acknowledge that they are. Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jun 20 14:04:44 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:04:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Religion and Spridgets List In-Reply-To: <60324o$9r9gg@email.mtu.edu> References: <60324o$9r9gg@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: Being as I am not Catholic either, I could care less. The only thing that the BIBLE (the first book) says, is in reference to "those who rejoice in my triumph." Isaiah 13:3 I drive a Spridget, not a Triumph.......... On 6/20/07, Timothy H. Collins wrote: > I am not of the Catholic religion persuasion, but I was perusing the > latest document from Rome on the "Guidelines on Pastoral Care of the > Road." This section caught my eye among many. Looks like we are all > in trouble for breaking this commandment! Rome must have had this > list in mind since it specifically refers to the "not so young." I > think if one reads between the lines, this includes all mention of > "lap times" too. LOL > > Vanity and personal glorification > > 26. Cars particularly lend themselves to being used by their owners > to show off, and as a means for outshining other people and arousing > a feeling of envy. People thus identify themselves with their cars > and project assertion of their egos onto them. When we praise our > cars we are, in fact, praising ourselves, because they belong to us > and, above all, we drive them. Many motorists, including the not so > young, boast with great pleasure of records broken and high speeds > achieved, and it is easy to see that they cannot stand being > considered as bad drivers, even though they may acknowledge that they are. > > Tim Collins > 1966 AH Sprite > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Wed Jun 20 14:07:04 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:07:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Religion and Spridgets List In-Reply-To: References: <60324o$9r9gg@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0706201307n55afe407q98c8d05dfcba2e8b@mail.gmail.com> Way to take a shot at your local economy, Rome. > 26. Cars particularly lend themselves to being used by their owners > > to show off, and as a means for outshining other people and arousing > > a feeling of envy. People thus identify themselves with their cars > > and project assertion of their egos onto them. When we praise our > > cars we are, in fact, praising ourselves, because they belong to us > > and, above all, we drive them. Many motorists, including the not so > > young, boast with great pleasure of records broken and high speeds > > achieved, and it is easy to see that they cannot stand being > > considered as bad drivers, even though they may acknowledge that they > are. > > > > Tim Collins > > 1966 AH Sprite > > _______________________________________________ > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 "Here is something that helps me: I'm going to die and everyone I know is going to die. We're all riding in a plane that is about to crash, it's already swerving and going up and down. Are you going to sit there and worry about "I don't have the shoes I want?" Why would you give a f*** about anything if you're sliding towards death. It's the only thing that keeps me going." - Ron Bennington From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jun 20 14:07:02 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:07:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Religion and Spridgets List References: <60324o$9r9gg@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <00de01c7b376$9357b4e0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Vanity and personal glorification > > 26. Cars particularly lend themselves to being used by their owners > to show off, and as a means for outshining other people and arousing > a feeling of envy. People thus identify themselves with their cars > and project assertion of their egos onto them. When we praise our > cars we are, in fact, praising ourselves, because they belong to us > and, above all, we drive them. Many motorists, including the not so > young, boast with great pleasure of records broken and high speeds > achieved, and it is easy to see that they cannot stand being > considered as bad drivers, even though they may acknowledge that they are. Keeping in mind current descriptions of Italian drivers, I don't think any one of us has cause to fear the wrath of the pope. David Lieb From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Wed Jun 20 14:08:21 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:08:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Religion and Spridgets List In-Reply-To: <60324o$9r9gg@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <200706202008.l5KK8CVA029870@ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com> So what of the opposite when I swear at it? $*%& remote shaft thing...%(^*& windows... Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Timothy H. Collins Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 2:51 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Religion and Spridgets List I am not of the Catholic religion persuasion, but I was perusing the latest document from Rome on the "Guidelines on Pastoral Care of the Road." This section caught my eye among many. Looks like we are all in trouble for breaking this commandment! Rome must have had this list in mind since it specifically refers to the "not so young." I think if one reads between the lines, this includes all mention of "lap times" too. LOL Vanity and personal glorification 26. Cars particularly lend themselves to being used by their owners to show off, and as a means for outshining other people and arousing a feeling of envy. People thus identify themselves with their cars and project assertion of their egos onto them. When we praise our cars we are, in fact, praising ourselves, because they belong to us and, above all, we drive them. Many motorists, including the not so young, boast with great pleasure of records broken and high speeds achieved, and it is easy to see that they cannot stand being considered as bad drivers, even though they may acknowledge that they are. Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From mark at nashvilletn.org Wed Jun 20 14:14:29 2007 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:14:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Windshield AGAIN References: <200706202008.l5KK8CVA029870@ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <017101c7b377$9c28d3f0$8500a8c0@CT> As you all know there are three screws on each side that hold the windshield to the aluminium upright posts bolted to the body. A couple of those screws are stripped on my car. I found a guy to put a new glass in the frame and just may let him do it but is there anything I can do to repair the stripped screws while it is apart? What about nutcerts, I have a tool to put them in if there is room. Mark Nashville http://www.ArrestMeRed.com From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 20 14:16:37 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:16:37 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Religion and Spridgets List In-Reply-To: <60324o$9r9gg@email.mtu.edu> References: <60324o$9r9gg@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706201316q5fdb0285vfa901de778588e65@mail.gmail.com> So, the Popemobile should be a horse-drawn cart? Or, a pimped out SUV? I'm confused. From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Wed Jun 20 14:23:32 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:23:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Religion and Spridgets List In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706201316q5fdb0285vfa901de778588e65@mail.gmail.com> References: <60324o$9r9gg@email.mtu.edu> <5f00d9910706201316q5fdb0285vfa901de778588e65@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0706201323x6621b3b5r7d79e017fb0be7ec@mail.gmail.com> He could always get a pair of sandals and go old school. On 6/20/07, derf wrote: > > So, the Popemobile should be a horse-drawn cart? > Or, a pimped out SUV? > I'm confused. > _______________________________________________ > > "Here is something that helps me: I'm going to die and everyone I know is > going to die. We're all riding in a plane that is about to crash, it's > already swerving and going up and down. Are you going to sit there and > worry about "I don't have the shoes I want?" Why would you give a f*** > about anything if you're sliding towards death. It's the only thing that > keeps me going." - Ron Bennington From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jun 20 14:31:33 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:31:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Religion and Spridgets List References: <60324o$9r9gg@email.mtu.edu><5f00d9910706201316q5fdb0285vfa901de778588e65@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0706201323x6621b3b5r7d79e017fb0be7ec@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000701c7b379$febc5a80$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >> So, the Popemobile should be a horse-drawn cart? >> Or, a pimped out SUV? > He could always get a pair of sandals and go old school. Barefoot, of course ;-) From mconn2 at bright.net Wed Jun 20 14:32:14 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:32:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1500 1976 Midget References: <002801c79cbc$25938cc0$2f34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <5f00d9910705221503g2a8651ebod70f09fac90e47fc@mail.gmail.com> <006101c7b2c4$f5fb9bf0$9daeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> <5f00d9910706191643m55bd0081w332156126ac2d028@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000601c7b37a$1714a740$d3aeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> Derf, Thank you. I'll let you know how he gets on. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "Michael Conn" Cc: "spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 7:43 PM Subject: Re: 1500 1976 Midget > Start with the basic tune-up: carb and ignition. Go from there. A > carb kit and new cap, rotor, and wires may solve problems. > Cheers, > Derf From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Wed Jun 20 14:34:04 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:34:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Religion and Spridgets List In-Reply-To: <000701c7b379$febc5a80$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <60324o$9r9gg@email.mtu.edu> <5f00d9910706201316q5fdb0285vfa901de778588e65@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0706201323x6621b3b5r7d79e017fb0be7ec@mail.gmail.com> <000701c7b379$febc5a80$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0706201334q2ee31e34s31a4b7290a79822b@mail.gmail.com> Early portraits of Jesus pictured the savior barefoot, but historians state that was changed so as not to portray the son of God as, "A Weirdo." Sorry if that's too inside for the rest of you. On 6/20/07, David Lieb wrote: > > >> So, the Popemobile should be a horse-drawn cart? > >> Or, a pimped out SUV? > > > He could always get a pair of sandals and go old school. > > Barefoot, of course ;-) > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 "Here is something that helps me: I'm going to die and everyone I know is going to die. We're all riding in a plane that is about to crash, it's already swerving and going up and down. Are you going to sit there and worry about "I don't have the shoes I want?" Why would you give a f*** about anything if you're sliding towards death. It's the only thing that keeps me going." - Ron Bennington From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jun 20 14:37:13 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:37:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Religion and Spridgets List References: <60324o$9r9gg@email.mtu.edu><5f00d9910706201316q5fdb0285vfa901de778588e65@mail.gmail.com><8a336b9d0706201323x6621b3b5r7d79e017fb0be7ec@mail.gmail.com><000701c7b379$febc5a80$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <8a336b9d0706201334q2ee31e34s31a4b7290a79822b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000f01c7b37a$c94f2de0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Early portraits of Jesus pictured the savior barefoot, but historians > state > that was changed so as not to portray the son of God as, "A Weirdo." I thought we were talking about the pope? No one is ever going to confuse him with a saviour... From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 20 14:38:12 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:38:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Windshield AGAIN In-Reply-To: <017101c7b377$9c28d3f0$8500a8c0@CT> References: <200706202008.l5KK8CVA029870@ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com> <017101c7b377$9c28d3f0$8500a8c0@CT> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706201338j5ef1da0aic178ff1075754cf6@mail.gmail.com> Look into Heli-coil inserts. I am not sure if they will work in that application but they will probably be better than nut-serts. Cheers, Derf On 6/20/07, Mark wrote: > > As you all know there are three screws on each side that hold the > windshield > to the aluminium upright posts bolted to the body. A couple of those > screws > are stripped on my car. I found a guy to put a new glass in the frame and > just may let him do it but is there anything I can do to repair the > stripped > screws while it is apart? What about nutcerts, I have a tool to put them > in > if there is room. > > Mark > Nashville > http://www.ArrestMeRed.com > _______________________________________________ > derf247 at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 20 14:41:30 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:41:30 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Religion and Spridgets List In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0706201334q2ee31e34s31a4b7290a79822b@mail.gmail.com> References: <60324o$9r9gg@email.mtu.edu> <5f00d9910706201316q5fdb0285vfa901de778588e65@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0706201323x6621b3b5r7d79e017fb0be7ec@mail.gmail.com> <000701c7b379$febc5a80$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <8a336b9d0706201334q2ee31e34s31a4b7290a79822b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706201341h4a7218c6ga314737ee86ce017@mail.gmail.com> Jesus also looked more "Jewish" or "Middle Eastern" and had longer hair. If you go to some strict "Christian" sects they have pictures showing Jesus looking more European with short hair. From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Wed Jun 20 14:46:50 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:46:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Religion and Spridgets List In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706201341h4a7218c6ga314737ee86ce017@mail.gmail.com> References: <60324o$9r9gg@email.mtu.edu> <5f00d9910706201316q5fdb0285vfa901de778588e65@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0706201323x6621b3b5r7d79e017fb0be7ec@mail.gmail.com> <000701c7b379$febc5a80$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <8a336b9d0706201334q2ee31e34s31a4b7290a79822b@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910706201341h4a7218c6ga314737ee86ce017@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0706201346g1838aea6w2b19bebc5fc9353d@mail.gmail.com> the hell are you talking about. We were making fun of Dave not wearing shoes. On 6/20/07, derf wrote: > > Jesus also looked more "Jewish" or "Middle Eastern" and had longer hair. > If you go to some strict "Christian" sects they have pictures showing Jesus > looking more European with short hair. > > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 "Here is something that helps me: I'm going to die and everyone I know is going to die. We're all riding in a plane that is about to crash, it's already swerving and going up and down. Are you going to sit there and worry about "I don't have the shoes I want?" Why would you give a f*** about anything if you're sliding towards death. It's the only thing that keeps me going." - Ron Bennington From mconn2 at bright.net Wed Jun 20 14:54:02 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:54:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Cadillac Message-ID: <005d01c7b37d$23235330$d3aeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> List, Today I have been impressed by something, and have to tell you about it! I have a 1990 Cadillac Eldorado (beautiful condition), and have just called the 1-800 number which I found on the fuse box in the glove department, and to my amazement got an answer. As a result of the call, I'm taking the car in to the GM dealer here in town to have the set belts replaced due to a 1995 recall. They actually have my vehicle in the system. Is that impressive? I think so, and I'm amazed. Michael From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jun 20 15:00:15 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:00:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Religion and Spridgets List References: <60324o$9r9gg@email.mtu.edu><5f00d9910706201316q5fdb0285vfa901de778588e65@mail.gmail.com><8a336b9d0706201323x6621b3b5r7d79e017fb0be7ec@mail.gmail.com><000701c7b379$febc5a80$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov><8a336b9d0706201334q2ee31e34s31a4b7290a79822b@mail.gmail.com><5f00d9910706201341h4a7218c6ga314737ee86ce017@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0706201346g1838aea6w2b19bebc5fc9353d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001901c7b37e$011ff030$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > the hell are you talking about. We were making fun of Dave not wearing > shoes. Yeah, he was on a roll. Next thing he was going to say is that he wears his shoes to bed. I was going to ask if they were high heels and he was going to reply that it was none of my business. Didn't you get a copy of the script? From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Wed Jun 20 15:01:11 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:01:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Religion and Spridgets List In-Reply-To: <001901c7b37e$011ff030$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <60324o$9r9gg@email.mtu.edu> <5f00d9910706201316q5fdb0285vfa901de778588e65@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0706201323x6621b3b5r7d79e017fb0be7ec@mail.gmail.com> <000701c7b379$febc5a80$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <8a336b9d0706201334q2ee31e34s31a4b7290a79822b@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910706201341h4a7218c6ga314737ee86ce017@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0706201346g1838aea6w2b19bebc5fc9353d@mail.gmail.com> <001901c7b37e$011ff030$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0706201401r791ddbffrcc2db03344e20417@mail.gmail.com> Stop looking in my windows yah creep. On 6/20/07, David Lieb wrote: > > > the hell are you talking about. We were making fun of Dave not wearing > > shoes. > > Yeah, he was on a roll. Next thing he was going to say is that he wears > his > shoes to bed. I was going to ask if they were high heels and he was going > to > reply that it was none of my business. Didn't you get a copy of the > script? > > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 "Here is something that helps me: I'm going to die and everyone I know is going to die. We're all riding in a plane that is about to crash, it's already swerving and going up and down. Are you going to sit there and worry about "I don't have the shoes I want?" Why would you give a f*** about anything if you're sliding towards death. It's the only thing that keeps me going." - Ron Bennington From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jun 20 15:01:29 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:01:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cadillac References: <005d01c7b37d$23235330$d3aeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <001d01c7b37e$2d1c9e90$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > They actually have my vehicle in the system. A former neighbor of mine gave me the set of seatbelts he got from a recall on his MGB... I thought that was amazing. From hal at katemuir.com Wed Jun 20 15:13:14 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:13:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil pick-up Message-ID: Okay all knowing list, When one straps the center main bearing cap on a 1275, what does that person do about the oil pick-up? Since one of the mounting points is on said center main cap, does one simply drill the strap and modify the bracket? Or is there some other (better?) way to ensure that the oil pick-up is kept secure and free of the under workings of the motor? Hal From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Jun 20 15:48:06 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:48:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Religion and Spridgets List In-Reply-To: <001901c7b37e$011ff030$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <60324o$9r9gg@email.mtu.edu><5f00d9910706201316q5fdb0285vfa901de778588e65@mail.gmail.com><8a336b9d0706201323x6621b3b5r7d79e017fb0be7ec@mail.gmail.com><000701c7b379$febc5a80$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov><8a336b9d0706201334q2ee31e34s31a4b7290a79822b@mail.gmail.com><5f00d9910706201341h4a7218c6ga314737ee86ce017@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0706201346g1838aea6w2b19bebc5fc9353d@mail.gmail.com> <001901c7b37e$011ff030$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: .. now my copy didn't read "high heels" but pumps.. are we allowed to improvise?? Lester On Jun 20, 2007, at 4:00 PM, David Lieb wrote: >> the hell are you talking about. We were making fun of Dave not >> wearing >> shoes. > > Yeah, he was on a roll. Next thing he was going to say is that he > wears his > shoes to bed. I was going to ask if they were high heels and he was > going to > reply that it was none of my business. Didn't you get a copy of the > script? > _______________________________________________ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jun 20 15:53:48 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:53:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Religion and Spridgets List References: <60324o$9r9gg@email.mtu.edu><5f00d9910706201316q5fdb0285vfa901de778588e65@mail.gmail.com><8a336b9d0706201323x6621b3b5r7d79e017fb0be7ec@mail.gmail.com><000701c7b379$febc5a80$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov><8a336b9d0706201334q2ee31e34s31a4b7290a79822b@mail.gmail.com><5f00d9910706201341h4a7218c6ga314737ee86ce017@mail.gmail.com><8a336b9d0706201346g1838aea6w2b19bebc5fc9353d@mail.gmail.com><001901c7b37e$011ff030$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <000301c7b385$7bdc83e0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > .. now my copy didn't read "high heels" but pumps.. are we allowed > to improvise?? I suppose, but I thought a "pump" was where you got gasoline? From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Jun 20 16:38:50 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:38:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Oil pick-up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <819731.24832.qm@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Drill and tap. --- Hal Faulkner wrote: > Okay all knowing list, > > When one straps the center main bearing cap on a > 1275, what does that person > do about the oil pick-up? Since one of the mounting > points is on said > center main cap, does one simply drill the strap and > modify the bracket? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469 From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 20 17:09:44 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:09:44 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cadillac In-Reply-To: <001d01c7b37e$2d1c9e90$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <005d01c7b37d$23235330$d3aeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> <001d01c7b37e$2d1c9e90$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706201609g7a9e23c0oed6517c0e2e75a63@mail.gmail.com> 1994 Miata again. I called the 800 customer service number and got a human. She told me where the car was delivered, when the warranty started, what options came with the car. I got excited when she said "Torsen LSD" and she said lots of people are glad to hear that their car has that option. More amazing, I guess, is that there were zero recalls on the car. From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 20 17:16:45 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:16:45 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Another computer question - NO LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706201616q296c3613v1fa32ebfeaa400c3@mail.gmail.com> Well, speak of the devil........ Had to replace a Dell desktop server today. It succombed to either the foul weather and lightning or to that guy who likes to tamper with things. You know the guy. Nothing works. You go in and see that he has somehow created another folder marked "Program Files" and moved half of the stuff from one to the other. The guy was seen at the server but swears he didn't touch it. Every firm has one. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 20 17:18:34 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:18:34 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil pick-up In-Reply-To: <819731.24832.qm@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <819731.24832.qm@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706201618y3da7522cjce9fade920abfa6e@mail.gmail.com> Well said, well spoken. Succinct. On 6/20/07, Ron Soave wrote: > > Drill and tap. From Daniel1312 at aol.com Wed Jun 20 17:22:51 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 19:22:51 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Printer is working Message-ID: Hi List, The printer is working ok with the USB lead I purchased earlier. I did have to do a download of a more recent version of internet explorer which took about an hour on dial-up but it was worth it. I had thought about buying a Dell sooner rather than later but then again in Maplins - a bit like Radio Shack? I thought about buying a pile of bits and having another DIY build. My computer purchases are what is know as 'distress purchases' - when it breaks I replace it. My Spridget and tool purchases are planned overhaul and maintenance. I'd rather spend money on my Sprite than computer stuff. Many thanks again for all the help. Daniel1312 From pythias at pacifier.com Wed Jun 20 17:48:59 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:48:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] hood emblem? Message-ID: <59761760.20070620164859@pacifier.com> Hello Spridgets, long story short. .. body shop broke the flying wing emblem on the hood of my '66... anybody got a spare?.. how much $$$$?.. how about the little clippies that hold it on? -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite "the red thing" (HAN8L 49403) If i didn't exist they'ed have to invent me From John.Deikis at va.gov Wed Jun 20 15:22:59 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:22:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Religion and Spridgets List In-Reply-To: <60324o$9r9gg@email.mtu.edu> References: <60324o$9r9gg@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: Something you just picked up off the rack while sipping coffee at the Seven-Eleven? -----Original Message----- From: Timothy H. Collins [mailto:thcollin at mtu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 3:51 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Religion and Spridgets List I am not of the Catholic religion persuasion, but I was perusing the latest document from Rome on the "Guidelines on Pastoral Care of the Road." This section caught my eye among many. Looks like we are all in trouble for breaking this commandment! Rome must have had this list in mind since it specifically refers to the "not so young." I think if one reads between the lines, this includes all mention of "lap times" too. LOL Vanity and personal glorification 26. Cars particularly lend themselves to being used by their owners to show off, and as a means for outshining other people and arousing a feeling of envy. People thus identify themselves with their cars and project assertion of their egos onto them. When we praise our cars we are, in fact, praising ourselves, because they belong to us and, above all, we drive them. Many motorists, including the not so young, boast with great pleasure of records broken and high speeds achieved, and it is easy to see that they cannot stand being considered as bad drivers, even though they may acknowledge that they are. Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From thcollin at mtu.edu Wed Jun 20 19:44:32 2007 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 21:44:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Religion and Spridgets List In-Reply-To: References: <60324o$9r9gg@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <60324o$9u17u@email.mtu.edu> At 05:22 PM 6/20/2007, Deikis, John G wrote: >Something you just picked up off the rack while sipping coffee at the >Seven-Eleven? LOL. Found the store at: Autoblog.com Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jun 20 19:51:03 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 21:51:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Windshield AGAIN In-Reply-To: <017101c7b377$9c28d3f0$8500a8c0@CT> References: <200706202008.l5KK8CVA029870@ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com> <017101c7b377$9c28d3f0$8500a8c0@CT> Message-ID: <4679D987.1090005@comcast.net> Mark wrote: > As you all know there are three screws Have you tried rethreading the holes (10/32) and using new screws? If the holes are stripped, try a 10/24 thread, or if it's really bad, you can go to a 12/24 thread but check out the screw heads, 12s might be a tiny bit too wide but you can file them down around the head. Use an oval head screw. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jun 20 20:27:30 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 22:27:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Another computer question - NO LBC In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706200720oc7a82a4rfc54244bc2b62d99@mail.gmail.com> References: <4877549.1182307649231.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <5f00d9910706200720oc7a82a4rfc54244bc2b62d99@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4679E212.50202@comcast.net> derf wrote: > I have my tire work done at a ratty tire shop that used to be a gas > station. I always go to the local non chain shop whenever possible. In my line of work, flat tires on the truck are a monthly problem. My shop still plugs tires and usually doesn't charge me. I flip the guy a few bucks anyway as a tip. I also buy all my tires from this shop, they tell me to undo and put on the lug nuts on all the old cars. I can use their impact wrench if I want but I opt to use a lug wrench. I can stand in the shop and BS with the guys and when I go in for tires, I try to make it the last job of the day and I bring the guys their favorite beverage. Yes they do wire wheels! (for me) One time I went to the chain tire store because my shop told me the chain had a certain brand tire that my wife blew apart hitting a pot hole. They lost the center cap, did me a favor and painted the alloy wheel a totally different color from the rest and it took 3 days for them to mess everything up! Same deal at the local muffler shop, I had them weld the whole system together and to the mounts to eliminate some rattles. They used their pipe, made the bends, and installed my muffler on the Sprite, total cost 12 beers. They also made up an exhaust system for my A40, that was a few bucks for the muffler but they had fun doing something out of the ordinary. My glass shop guy doesn't drink beer but coffee and donuts on a Saturday morning will get the windshield put in the frame. I do offer to pay at all these places but I have been a familiar face in these shops for 20+ years or I went to school with the guys. And when I need a windshield for my daughter's car or my truck, Mike gets the job, I don't ask how much because I know he will treat me right and do the job correct. I also do some carpentry work for them whenever they need something in a pinch. They offer to pay me but one hand washes the other. Likewise when the new out of the box Dell smoked and I was on hold for an hour and 45 minutes, I went to a local shop and bought HIS computer. When I did have a problem, I called, a real person answered the phone and walked me thru the trouble. I told HIM to hold on while I worked out the problem and he did. I wish my favorite auto parts store was still here so I didn't have to go to the big chinese auto parts stores where some pimple faced kid doesn't even know what an engine looks like. Now I rely on Peter for stuff for all my cars. I ask him if he has it, I don't ask the price. He helps me with my cars and YES, I have helped him with his house. I go the the same gas station with the same owner who taught me how to put air in my bicycle when I was 8. He still hangs out there even though his kids or grand kids now run the place. These are the things that make a neighborhood a community. If the person behind the counter does not speak understandable english, I walk out and do not go back. Rant over -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From dmg at bossig.com Wed Jun 20 20:38:22 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (dmg at bossig.com) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 19:38:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Another computer question - NO LBC In-Reply-To: <4679E212.50202@comcast.net> References: <4877549.1182307649231.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net>, <5f00d9910706200720oc7a82a4rfc54244bc2b62d99@mail.gmail.com>, <4679E212.50202@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4679822E.22897.2A2B131@dmg.bossig.com> Too Bloody right!!! Dave G. On 20 Jun 2007 at 22:27, Frank Clarici wrote: >> If the person behind the counter does not speak understandable english, >> I walk out and do not go back. >> >> Rant over From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 20 21:44:59 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 21:44:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Another computer question - NO LBC In-Reply-To: <4679E212.50202@comcast.net> References: <4877549.1182307649231.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <5f00d9910706200720oc7a82a4rfc54244bc2b62d99@mail.gmail.com> <4679E212.50202@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706202044k34777085l71a10424af6533e7@mail.gmail.com> There is one guy in town who knows how to do wire wheels right. He can true them in addition to just mounting/dismounting. He owns a medium sized non-chain shop. But, when someone brings wires in he dons a jumpsuit (he usually wears button down shirt and slacks at work, being more white collar owner than worker) and does the work. I never used him, too pricey for me, but those with expensive Jags and such with wires eventually find their way to his shop. Me, when I had wires, I just bought tires, mounted them myself by hand (motorcycle tire tools work well) and then let someone balance them on the machine. It is amazing how thin and flexible the wire wheels are, easily destroyed by a machine if you don't know what you're doing. I worked at a full service station in the 80s and at a tire shop for three days, so I know my way around mounting and balancing equipment somewhat. Funny thing, when I was in high school and working at the full service Texaco stations, a tire plug was $7. Nowadays, at my favorite tire shop, plugs are $7. I get them to dismount the tire and cement a patch on the inside, still $7. Every time I leave there I feel like I got good value for the money I spent. I know three good, honest mechanics. My wife wanted a Jeep Cherokee. We found a 2000 that she liked at the time at a dealership. The price was really good and this was the one she wanted. After making the dealership guy show me all the paperwork I found a document where their mechanic had written "Noise in rear end". After this, on a second test drive, with the windows down, sure enough, I hear a noise from the axle area. The price was really good so we figures at worst I could replace the axle for around $1000 max. We bought the Jeep and brought it home. I tore into the rear end, pulled the axles, checked the diff, and couldn't find anything wrong. I put it back together and the noise was still there. So, we took it to one of our known good guy mechanics. A few hours later he called and said it was ready. We went, expecting the worst. Though I felt like an idiot, I was relieved when he handed me the hubcap and said, "Here's your problem". What? You gotta be kidding? Stupid hubcap! What do I owe you? "$20 for diagnostic test drive". So, we saved several thousand bucks on a Jeep and I got a good lesson in humility. Stupid hubcap. My wife's solution? Just leave the hubcap off. But, I can't have my wife driving around with three hubcaps. I can remember putting pebbles in my friends' metal hubcaps as a joke but I had no idea a plastic hubcap could make such grinding and ticking noises. Cheers, Derf From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Thu Jun 21 00:35:37 2007 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:35:37 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] was oil pickup...bottom end questions In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706201618y3da7522cjce9fade920abfa6e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <463945.64394.qm@web50606.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I know Vizard et. al. say to strap it or fit a 4-bolt main... 4 bolt main...line boring and the necessary deep pockets...say no more. As far as the strap goes... I just don't like the idea of milling away the guts of the main cap... I'm no engineer.. and no doubt some of you are... so feel free to correct me. Unless you're building a mental engine, wouldn't a set of ARP main studs be adequate, and considering no machining is required..similar $$ outlay as a strap? feel free to shoot me down or reassure me..I'm about to assemble an engine, so I might as well get the bottom end up to the task now. Inline 1275's are scarce and expensive here...I don't want to break mine. while on that topic... Is there any way to identify what year/series a crank is from by the numbers cast in it? I have an interesting situation which i have mentioned before where there is about .030 of crank end float when standard thrusts are fitted... Colin Dodds mentioned that this arises when an A+ crank finds its way into an A- block... or was it the other way around...? i have thinned down a set of .030 oversize thrusts to fit... but now I'm worried about the crank being in the right place end-wise. I figure BMC tolerances would let me proceed as long as there is no pinching between big ends and the crank cheeks.. anyone care to shed light on this? Andy Brisbane derf wrote: Well said, well spoken. Succinct. On 6/20/07, Ron Soave wrote: > > Drill and tap. _______________________________________________ a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Yahoo!7 Mail has just got even bigger and better with unlimited storage on all webmail accounts. Find out more. From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Thu Jun 21 02:00:48 2007 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 01:00:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix Message-ID: <4CD93551-DE1C-4CD2-91E6-C512015BFED4@gerardsgarage.com> Hi friends, A friend of mine who moved from San Francisco to Pittsburgh, PA a couple years ago suprised me last weekend by inviting me for a week's stay in Pittsburgh. I thought I'd let you right coasters know I will be in your "neighborhood" during the week of the 8th through the 15th of July. I don't have exact dates yet, but that's pretty close to what it will be. If anyone would like to meet up, please let me know. I don't know if I'll make the '08 Sprite Anniversary yet, so... Gerard From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Thu Jun 21 02:07:01 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 04:07:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Another computer question - NO LBC In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706201616q296c3613v1fa32ebfeaa400c3@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910706201616q296c3613v1fa32ebfeaa400c3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Ahhhh, Looking in the mirror again are ya?? Larry On Jun 20, 2007, at 7:16 PM, derf wrote: > Well, speak of the devil........ > Had to replace a Dell desktop server today. It succombed to either > the foul > weather and lightning or to that guy who likes to tamper with > things. You > know the guy. Nothing works. You go in and see that he has somehow > created > another folder marked "Program Files" and moved half of the stuff > from one > to the other. The guy was seen at the server but swears he didn't > touch > it. Every firm has one. > Cheers, > Derf > _______________________________________________ > lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at bbl.med.upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 03:38:37 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 05:38:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] New Bugzuki Pictures In-Reply-To: <062901c7b216$18edf0e0$d280bc43@HP> References: <05dc01c7b20f$e4f0d330$d280bc43@HP> <000601c7b213$61663740$1f34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <062901c7b216$18edf0e0$d280bc43@HP> Message-ID: <205cef430706210238r6a63ed0te3a08cf9dd378c3f@mail.gmail.com> Is 100 mph on a 1275 with or without a 5 speed? Larry your Bugzuki is awesome. Congratulations on a job well done. Linda 62 California Sprite "PInky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner On 6/18/07, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > > For me, top speed in a street Bugeye is around 100 MPH. Most warm 1275's > will do that. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Conn" > To: "Larry & Sandi Miller" > Cc: "spridgets" > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 6:44 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New Bugzuki Pictures > > > > Larry & Sandi, > > > > That's one neat looking car! > > > > Is that a Bugeye gear lever I see? > > > > Have you got a top speed yet? > > > > Great car. > > > > Michael > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Larry & Sandi Miller" > > To: "Bugeye" ; "Spridget" > > > > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 9:19 PM > > Subject: [Spridgets] New Bugzuki Pictures > > > > > >> Paint and stripes are finished. > _______________________________________________ > grunthaner at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 03:39:36 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 05:39:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] New Bugzuki Pictures In-Reply-To: <05dc01c7b20f$e4f0d330$d280bc43@HP> References: <05dc01c7b20f$e4f0d330$d280bc43@HP> Message-ID: <205cef430706210239pc59b493pb4c590896684f28a@mail.gmail.com> Where did you get the carbon fiber dash or did you make it? Lin 62 California Sprite "PInky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner On 6/18/07, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > > Paint and stripes are finished. > > http://www.ado13.com/dohczuke/dohc.htm > > There is a shot of the dzus fastener's that hold the bonnet down. > _______________________________________________ > grunthaner at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 03:45:04 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 05:45:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Windshield AGAIN In-Reply-To: <017101c7b377$9c28d3f0$8500a8c0@CT> References: <200706202008.l5KK8CVA029870@ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com> <017101c7b377$9c28d3f0$8500a8c0@CT> Message-ID: <205cef430706210245p74934db1tb51fdcb97759614c@mail.gmail.com> Mark, Nice web site did you take the pics? Linda 62 California Sprite "PInky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner On 6/20/07, Mark wrote: > > As you all know there are three screws on each side that hold the > windshield > to the aluminium upright posts bolted to the body. A couple of those > screws > are stripped on my car. I found a guy to put a new glass in the frame and > just may let him do it but is there anything I can do to repair the > stripped > screws while it is apart? What about nutcerts, I have a tool to put them > in > if there is room. > > Mark > Nashville > http://www.ArrestMeRed.com > _______________________________________________ > grunthaner at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pilotrob at webtv.net Thu Jun 21 04:22:38 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 10:22:38 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] New Bugzuki Pictures Message-ID: "I'm never going to determine the cost" For "the love of the game", Larry. :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From millerls at ado13.com Thu Jun 21 08:01:37 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 07:01:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] New Bugzuki Pictures References: <05dc01c7b20f$e4f0d330$d280bc43@HP> <205cef430706210239pc59b493pb4c590896684f28a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <08e501c7b40c$af9986b0$d280bc43@HP> Speedwell. ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Grunthaner To: Larry & Sandi Miller Cc: Bugeye ; Spridget Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:39 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New Bugzuki Pictures Where did you get the carbon fiber dash or did you make it? Lin 62 California Sprite "PInky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner On 6/18/07, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: Paint and stripes are finished. http://www.ado13.com/dohczuke/dohc.htm There is a shot of the dzus fastener's that hold the bonnet down. _______________________________________________ grunthaner at gmail.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From millerls at ado13.com Thu Jun 21 08:02:38 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 07:02:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] New Bugzuki Pictures References: <05dc01c7b20f$e4f0d330$d280bc43@HP> <000601c7b213$61663740$1f34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <062901c7b216$18edf0e0$d280bc43@HP> <205cef430706210238r6a63ed0te3a08cf9dd378c3f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <08ee01c7b40c$d44b2450$d280bc43@HP> That would be in 4th gear. ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Grunthaner To: Larry & Sandi Miller Cc: Michael Conn ; spridgets Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:38 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New Bugzuki Pictures Is 100 mph on a 1275 with or without a 5 speed? Larry your Bugzuki is awesome. Congratulations on a job well done. Linda 62 California Sprite "PInky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner On 6/18/07, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: For me, top speed in a street Bugeye is around 100 MPH. Most warm 1275's will do that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Conn" To: "Larry & Sandi Miller" Cc: "spridgets" < spridgets at autox.team.net> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New Bugzuki Pictures > Larry & Sandi, > > That's one neat looking car! > > Is that a Bugeye gear lever I see? > > Have you got a top speed yet? > > Great car. > > Michael > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry & Sandi Miller" < millerls at ado13.com> > To: "Bugeye" ; "Spridget" > < spridgets at autox.team.net> > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 9:19 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] New Bugzuki Pictures > > >> Paint and stripes are finished. _______________________________________________ grunthaner at gmail.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu Jun 21 08:58:50 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 10:58:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thicko Village accessory? Message-ID: Do we need this, or what?! http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/enormous-home+made-margarita-mixer-me ans-you-can-say-mines-a-large-one-270568.php From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 09:12:01 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 09:12:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Thicko Village accessory? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706210812n58acc444yf496428e471a9e80@mail.gmail.com> Nope, unless you make an A-series powered one. Until then, these are better for Thickos: http://www.boatblender.com/ From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu Jun 21 10:29:35 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 12:29:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Religion and Spridgets List In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706201341h4a7218c6ga314737ee86ce017@mail.gmail.com> References: <60324o$9r9gg@email.mtu.edu><5f00d9910706201316q5fdb0285vfa901de778588e65@mail.gmail.com><8a336b9d0706201323x6621b3b5r7d79e017fb0be7ec@mail.gmail.com><000701c7b379$febc5a80$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov><8a336b9d0706201334q2ee31e34s31a4b7290a79822b@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910706201341h4a7218c6ga314737ee86ce017@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I would guess he looked more like Yasser Arafat than Mel Gibson. -----Original Message----- From: derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 4:42 PM To: Flash. Cc: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Religion and Spridgets List Jesus also looked more "Jewish" or "Middle Eastern" and had longer hair. If you go to some strict "Christian" sects they have pictures showing Jesus looking more European with short hair. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 10:34:37 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 10:34:37 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Religion and Spridgets List In-Reply-To: References: <60324o$9r9gg@email.mtu.edu> <5f00d9910706201316q5fdb0285vfa901de778588e65@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0706201323x6621b3b5r7d79e017fb0be7ec@mail.gmail.com> <000701c7b379$febc5a80$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <8a336b9d0706201334q2ee31e34s31a4b7290a79822b@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910706201341h4a7218c6ga314737ee86ce017@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706210934y6155e9eeu98f35c8b427343e8@mail.gmail.com> No, more like Jim Caviezel, who played Jesus in Gibson's "Passion" http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0335345/002.jpg.html?path=gallery&path_key=0335345&seq=3 From Daniel1312 at aol.com Thu Jun 21 10:37:41 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 12:37:41 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] was oil pickup...bottom end questions Message-ID: You haven't said what rpm you plan to run the motor too or how often. Probably up to 6.5K on a stock bottom end, up to 7.5K on a strapped and anything over 7.5K a 4 bolt? I'm not sure if there is a debate about line boring even when strapped. I'd rather have a 4 bolt main on stock main cap bolts and a couple of good bolts on the 2 extras than ARP studs on an ordinary cap. If you have an A+ crank than you either have the journals machined down for Spridget rods or have big journal 1275 rods or big journal A+ rods. If you have a Marina in-line 1275 or Ital +A block either will be clearly different from the Spridget block. Daniel1312 In a message dated 21/06/07 07:36:07 GMT Daylight Time, a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au writes: > > I know Vizard et. al. say to strap it or fit a 4-bolt main... > 4 bolt main...line boring and the necessary deep pockets...say no more. > As far as the strap goes... I just don't like the idea of milling away the > guts of the main cap... I'm no engineer.. and no doubt some of you are... so > feel free to correct me. > > Unless you're building a mental engine, wouldn't a set of ARP main studs be > adequate, and considering no machining is required..similar $$ outlay as a > strap? > feel free to shoot me down or reassure me..I'm about to assemble an engine, > so I might as well get the bottom end up to the task now. > Inline 1275's are scarce and expensive here...I don't want to break mine. > > while on that topic... Is there any way to identify what year/series a > crank is from by the numbers cast in it? > I have an interesting situation which i have mentioned before where there > is about .030 of crank end float when standard thrusts are fitted... Colin > Dodds mentioned that this arises when an A+ crank finds its way into an A- > block... or was it the other way around...? > i have thinned down a set of .030 oversize thrusts to fit... but now I'm > worried about the crank being in the right place end-wise. > I figure BMC tolerances would let me proceed as long as there is no > pinching between big ends and the crank cheeks.. anyone care to shed light on this? > > Andy > Brisbane From Daniel1312 at aol.com Thu Jun 21 10:42:52 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 12:42:52 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Wheel and tyre fitting Message-ID: I go to a big national tyre chain and they just stare at my car. Then I tell them where to jack the car or they let me do it. I take the wheels off (wire wheels with knock offs) and tell them how to use tubes (the new front w/w are 5.5in same as rear but tubeless design). I watch them do the balance and then they let me put the wheels back on the car. I usually have to sign to say I fitted the wheels back on the car. Daniel1312 In a message dated 21/06/07 06:51:29 GMT Daylight Time, spritenut at comcast.net writes: > Yes they do wire wheels! ( From lists at woozy.com Thu Jun 21 11:10:56 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 13:10:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wheel and tyre fitting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <467AB120.6090007@woozy.com> We had a great tire shop in town that had been here for years and years that was the only place around that could mount and balance wire wheels. I just happened to go by it this morning and it looks like they've closed up shop. A google search turned up this entry in someone's blog: Development is creeping from downtown to Foster Street. Across the street from the Scrap Exchange, a vacant building was demolished and hauled away. Across the street from that, Nu-Tread Tire was closed, and sits vacantto be demolished, too? A photo of the place can be seen here: http://www.durhamcentralpark.org/images/photos/district/fosterstreet/nutread.jpg It's a shame, that was a great place to get tires. Almost everything around here is part of a huge chain anymore. When I go into the auto parts store they barely speak English. A couple of weeks ago I ordered a distributor cap for the Midget from Advance Auto in town. Went back to pick it up the next day when they said it would be there and they had no record of the order and no part. I even asked the person at the register if I had given her the slip for the special order because my short term memory is pretty lousy and she said yes. Then I asked her who do I see when I come back to pick it up and she showed me. Then she forgot to enter the order into the system. So much for the time I had set aside to work on the ignition problem that day. This has become a typical interaction at my local auto parts store: Me: Hi, I need [whatever part] for a 1970 MG Midget. Counter Zombie: Manufacturer? Me: MG Them: Who makes it? Me: MG, just type an M and a G into the computer. Them: [MG shows up on the screen] Oh, MG what's that? I never heard of that before.......... It happens every time without fail. Unfortunately there are no more independent places to go around here anymore if you need it the same day. Urgh, Robert From Daniel1312 at aol.com Thu Jun 21 11:12:04 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 13:12:04 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Cadillac Message-ID: Kind of a contradiction though I guess she meant Torsen or LSD Daniel1312 In a message dated 21/06/07 01:01:36 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: > Torsen LSD From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 11:18:54 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 12:18:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cadillac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8a336b9d0706211018w76610f3o8aff6a8c068a6c22@mail.gmail.com> I don't think a viscous was available in 94. I think it was Torsen Limited Slip or it was an open. On 6/21/07, Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: > > Kind of a contradiction though I guess she meant Torsen or LSD > > Daniel1312 > > In a message dated 21/06/07 01:01:36 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com > writes: > > > Torsen LSD > _______________________________________________ > http://btdtracing.com > 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata > 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 > > "Here is something that helps me: I'm going to die and everyone I know is > going to die. We're all riding in a plane that is about to crash, it's > already swerving and going up and down. Are you going to sit there and > worry about "I don't have the shoes I want?" Why would you give a f*** > about anything if you're sliding towards death. It's the only thing that > keeps me going." - Ron Bennington From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Jun 21 11:22:21 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 12:22:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Religion and Spridgets List In-Reply-To: References: <60324o$9r9gg@email.mtu.edu><5f00d9910706201316q5fdb0285vfa901de778588e65@mail.gmail.com><8a336b9d0706201323x6621b3b5r7d79e017fb0be7ec@mail.gmail.com><000701c7b379$febc5a80$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov><8a336b9d0706201334q2ee31e34s31a4b7290a79822b@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910706201341h4a7218c6ga314737ee86ce017@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <22E8156C-686E-4371-941D-F2C572565C9C@comcast.net> So.. you think not much has changed in 2000 years?? He could have looked like anyone fer cryin' outloud. Lester .. and why is he never shown wearing a yarmulke ;-) .. I know, not a religious thing until much after his time.. On Jun 21, 2007, at 11:29 AM, Deikis, John G wrote: > I would guess he looked more like Yasser Arafat than Mel Gibson. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 4:42 PM > To: Flash. > Cc: Spridget List > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Religion and Spridgets List > > Jesus also looked more "Jewish" or "Middle Eastern" and had longer > hair. > If > you go to some strict "Christian" sects they have pictures showing > Jesus > looking more European with short hair. From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 11:23:19 2007 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 12:23:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wheel and tyre fitting In-Reply-To: <467AB120.6090007@woozy.com> References: <467AB120.6090007@woozy.com> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0706211023v1ef28952ub9cbbd819a9019b@mail.gmail.com> I'm pretty sure they mispelled the name on the building of the parts store I frequent. Me: I need radiator hoses for my '73 MG Midget. Them: Who makes it? Me: M.G. Them: Oh, really? :-( From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jun 21 11:27:31 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 13:27:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thicko Village accessory? Message-ID: <20070621172731.QQLE9197.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Nah! Just get good tequila and drink it straight. > From: "Deikis, John G" > > Do we need this, or what?! > > > > http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/enormous-home+made-margarita-mixer-me > ans-you-can-say-mines-a-large-one-270568.php From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jun 21 11:37:23 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 13:37:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thicko Village accessory? Message-ID: <20070621173723.GPYL6941.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> I wish the animated image was the one with the woman with the black top. My apologies in advance. I had a drink at lunch. ( not that that is a requirement ) > From: derf > > Nope, unless you make an A-series powered one. Until then, these are better > for Thickos: > http://www.boatblender.com/ From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 11:48:13 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 11:48:13 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cadillac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706211048v8a7a060g477a376734b0854a@mail.gmail.com> >>Kind of a contradiction though I guess she meant Torsen or LSD Here we go again? There were two types of LSDs available in Miatas, viscous and Torsen. Early models had optional viscous LSDs. In 94, the Torsen LSD was an option. If there is some terminology I am unaware of then maybe it is a contradiction. But, I assume LSD means "Limited Slip Differential" and Torsen means "Torque Sensing". I guess LSD can be a stand alone term (noun) but I think Torsen as more of an adjective. "Torsen LSD" seems proper to me. "Torsen LSD" is a common term among the Miata crowds. I think you can have a Torsen transfer case but maybe transfer case and differential are the same thing? I'm no author and I did get my poorest marks in English, despite some really good professors. Again, if I am wrong, enlighten me. A wise man welcomes correction. I'm not wise yet, but working on it. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 11:49:36 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 11:49:36 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cadillac In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0706211018w76610f3o8aff6a8c068a6c22@mail.gmail.com> References: <8a336b9d0706211018w76610f3o8aff6a8c068a6c22@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706211049n5ba3a195h5b02c7d11cc9e75e@mail.gmail.com> On 6/21/07, Flash. wrote: > > I don't think a viscous was available in 94. I think it was Torsen > Limited > Slip or it was an open. > You are correct. Viscous type optional until 93. Torsen type optional, 94 and up. From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 11:52:06 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 12:52:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cadillac In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706211049n5ba3a195h5b02c7d11cc9e75e@mail.gmail.com> References: <8a336b9d0706211018w76610f3o8aff6a8c068a6c22@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910706211049n5ba3a195h5b02c7d11cc9e75e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0706211052n7cf54d4cv91226ad3ff4d41b3@mail.gmail.com> So to echo the other poster's comment, a Type II torsen (i cant speak to the type 1 or 3), is a limited slip in that it is a dynamic and changing grip, not a full lock (i think the type 1 was full lock) Torsen is more a brand name than an adjective. On 6/21/07, derf wrote: > > > > On 6/21/07, Flash. wrote: > > > > I don't think a viscous was available in 94. I think it was Torsen > > Limited > > Slip or it was an open. > > > > > > You are correct. Viscous type optional until 93. Torsen type optional, > 94 and up. > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 "Here is something that helps me: I'm going to die and everyone I know is going to die. We're all riding in a plane that is about to crash, it's already swerving and going up and down. Are you going to sit there and worry about "I don't have the shoes I want?" Why would you give a f*** about anything if you're sliding towards death. It's the only thing that keeps me going." - Ron Bennington From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu Jun 21 11:49:56 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 13:49:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix In-Reply-To: <4CD93551-DE1C-4CD2-91E6-C512015BFED4@gerardsgarage.com> References: <4CD93551-DE1C-4CD2-91E6-C512015BFED4@gerardsgarage.com> Message-ID: Gerard: I hope to have a motor running for the PVGP opener at Beaver Run on 7th and 8th-- but you'll still be slowly spelling your name to the Transportation Psychotic Administration personnel at the Pittsburgh Airport. You'll have a great time at Schenley Park though, and Pgh has morphed into a really nice city since the steel industry moved to China, or Toms River, NJ, or wherever it went. If you get here early enough for Beaver Run, come out to the track. Red Midget with a white hardtop-- like the factory intended them to be raced. Spridgets are supposedly featured that weekend. JohnD -----Original Message----- From: Gerard Chateauvieux [mailto:pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 4:01 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix Hi friends, A friend of mine who moved from San Francisco to Pittsburgh, PA a couple years ago suprised me last weekend by inviting me for a week's stay in Pittsburgh. I thought I'd let you right coasters know I will be in your "neighborhood" during the week of the 8th through the 15th of July. I don't have exact dates yet, but that's pretty close to what it will be. If anyone would like to meet up, please let me know. I don't know if I'll make the '08 Sprite Anniversary yet, so... Gerard From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 12:06:22 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 12:06:22 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cadillac In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0706211052n7cf54d4cv91226ad3ff4d41b3@mail.gmail.com> References: <8a336b9d0706211018w76610f3o8aff6a8c068a6c22@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910706211049n5ba3a195h5b02c7d11cc9e75e@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0706211052n7cf54d4cv91226ad3ff4d41b3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706211106o530c6a4cyf8bb6c93aba50e86@mail.gmail.com> I haven't seen mine, only felt it in action. I think it is a Type I, with helical gearing. I guess you can say "Viscous" or "Torsen" and the implied meaning is LSD. But Torsen stands for "torque sensing". Saying "That is a Torsen" to me is like saying "That is a big". A Torsen what? A big what? Again, English isn't my forte. And, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Thu Jun 21 12:09:19 2007 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:09:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thicko Village accessory? Message-ID: <12548317.1182449359988.JavaMail.root@wmvirt99> Lunch is always optional! My apologies in advance. I had a drink at lunch. ( not that that is a requirement ) From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 12:15:45 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 13:15:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cadillac In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706211106o530c6a4cyf8bb6c93aba50e86@mail.gmail.com> References: <8a336b9d0706211018w76610f3o8aff6a8c068a6c22@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910706211049n5ba3a195h5b02c7d11cc9e75e@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0706211052n7cf54d4cv91226ad3ff4d41b3@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910706211106o530c6a4cyf8bb6c93aba50e86@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0706211115w10854f19s7798821e4f226689@mail.gmail.com> All Miata Torsen differentials are Type 2. On 6/21/07, derf wrote: > > I haven't seen mine, only felt it in action. I think it is a Type I, with > helical gearing. > I guess you can say "Viscous" or "Torsen" and the implied meaning is LSD. > But Torsen stands for "torque sensing". Saying "That is a Torsen" to me is > like saying "That is a big". A Torsen what? A big what? > Again, English isn't my forte. > And, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. > > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 "Here is something that helps me: I'm going to die and everyone I know is going to die. We're all riding in a plane that is about to crash, it's already swerving and going up and down. Are you going to sit there and worry about "I don't have the shoes I want?" Why would you give a f*** about anything if you're sliding towards death. It's the only thing that keeps me going." - Ron Bennington From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 12:22:59 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 13:22:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cadillac In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0706211115w10854f19s7798821e4f226689@mail.gmail.com> References: <8a336b9d0706211018w76610f3o8aff6a8c068a6c22@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910706211049n5ba3a195h5b02c7d11cc9e75e@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0706211052n7cf54d4cv91226ad3ff4d41b3@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910706211106o530c6a4cyf8bb6c93aba50e86@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0706211115w10854f19s7798821e4f226689@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0706211122v11724337mac568e5512f62f04@mail.gmail.com> Excuse me, I mispose. 94-95 was type 1, all the later models with Torsen received the type 2. On 6/21/07, Flash. wrote: > > All Miata Torsen differentials are Type 2. > > > > > On 6/21/07, derf wrote: > > > > I haven't seen mine, only felt it in action. I think it is a Type I, > > with helical gearing. > > I guess you can say "Viscous" or "Torsen" and the implied meaning is > > LSD. But Torsen stands for "torque sensing". Saying "That is a Torsen" to > > me is like saying "That is a big". A Torsen what? A big what? > > Again, English isn't my forte. > > And, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. > > > > > > > -- > http://btdtracing.com > 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata > 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 > > "Here is something that helps me: I'm going to die and everyone I know is > going to die. We're all riding in a plane that is about to crash, it's > already swerving and going up and down. Are you going to sit there and > worry about "I don't have the shoes I want?" Why would you give a f*** > about anything if you're sliding towards death. It's the only thing that > keeps me going." - Ron Bennington > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 "Here is something that helps me: I'm going to die and everyone I know is going to die. We're all riding in a plane that is about to crash, it's already swerving and going up and down. Are you going to sit there and worry about "I don't have the shoes I want?" Why would you give a f*** about anything if you're sliding towards death. It's the only thing that keeps me going." - Ron Bennington From Daniel1312 at aol.com Thu Jun 21 12:24:19 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:24:19 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Diff action Message-ID: Torsen is brand name and Gleason (?) have in recent years protected their brand name product. Torsen means Torque Sensing and is a gear type diff and was first used, to my knowledge, in the original Audi Quatro (I guess it used 3?). A torsen diff gradually locks up the diff action to a preset 80 or 95% or whatever. A Quaife diff is a torsen but they've had to call it automatic torque biasing. The Phantom Grip has a torsen effect but is a device to modify the behaviour of a diff. An LSD or plate type diff doesn't sense torque but I think speed. What happens is that it doesn't lock across the diff but switches power to one wheel - the one with grip. This is a Trannex, Gripper or the ZF like in some BMWs. I always think of viscous as a viscous coupling rather than a diff but I suppose they can be made as a diff. Ferguson have the patent on them as far as I know. I'm less certain how a viscous works but expect a similar response to a Torsen. The driven characteristics between a Torsen and an LSD is markedly different. Regards Daniel1312 In a message dated 21/06/07 19:07:36 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: > LSD From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jun 21 12:36:33 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:36:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Diff action - WAR Message-ID: <20070621183633.OXIU13954.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> This is all too much for me! I just can't imagine my rear end on LSD! :) > > LSD From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu Jun 21 12:33:04 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:33:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] WAS: Cadillac NOW: Torque sensing LSD In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706211048v8a7a060g477a376734b0854a@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910706211048v8a7a060g477a376734b0854a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: English was not my first language, however... I have a Phantom Grip in my Midget, which the magician of Soddy-Daisy described as a "torque sensing" device. I think he said the Phantom Grip clutches will send power to the wheel with the most grip as long as there is torque transfer to each of the two driven wheels. BUT, I think he also said, if the inside wheel lifts, there is no more resistance and therefore no more limited slip action. I put the thing in. I know what it looks like. Can anyone explain to me how it works or lead me to a URL that has a good description? -----Original Message----- From: derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 1:48 PM To: Daniel1312 at aol.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cadillac >>Kind of a contradiction though I guess she meant Torsen or LSD Here we go again? There were two types of LSDs available in Miatas, viscous and Torsen. Early models had optional viscous LSDs. In 94, the Torsen LSD was an option. If there is some terminology I am unaware of then maybe it is a contradiction. But, I assume LSD means "Limited Slip Differential" and Torsen means "Torque Sensing". I guess LSD can be a stand alone term (noun) but I think Torsen as more of an adjective. "Torsen LSD" seems proper to me. "Torsen LSD" is a common term among the Miata crowds. I think you can have a Torsen transfer case but maybe transfer case and differential are the same thing? I'm no author and I did get my poorest marks in English, despite some really good professors. Again, if I am wrong, enlighten me. A wise man welcomes correction. I'm not wise yet, but working on it. Cheers, Derf From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 12:53:07 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 13:53:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] WAS: Cadillac NOW: Torque sensing LSD In-Reply-To: References: <5f00d9910706211048v8a7a060g477a376734b0854a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0706211153k57187c25o3cbee2e6a013edf6@mail.gmail.com> wikipedia.org On 6/21/07, Deikis, John G wrote: > > English was not my first language, however... > > I have a Phantom Grip in my Midget, which the magician of Soddy-Daisy > described as a "torque sensing" device. I think he said the Phantom Grip > clutches will send power to the wheel with the most grip as long as > there is torque transfer to each of the two driven wheels. BUT, I think > he also said, if the inside wheel lifts, there is no more resistance and > therefore no more limited slip action. > > I put the thing in. I know what it looks like. Can anyone explain to > me how it works or lead me to a URL that has a good description? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 1:48 PM > To: Daniel1312 at aol.com > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cadillac > > >>Kind of a contradiction though I guess she meant Torsen or LSD > > Here we go again? > > There were two types of LSDs available in Miatas, viscous and Torsen. > Early > models had optional viscous LSDs. In 94, the Torsen LSD was an option. > If there is some terminology I am unaware of then maybe it is a > contradiction. But, I assume LSD means "Limited Slip Differential" and > Torsen means "Torque Sensing". I guess LSD can be a stand alone term > (noun) > but I think Torsen as more of an adjective. "Torsen LSD" seems proper > to > me. "Torsen LSD" is a common term among the Miata crowds. I think you > can > have a Torsen transfer case but maybe transfer case and differential are > the > same thing? I'm no author and I did get my poorest marks in English, > despite some really good professors. > Again, if I am wrong, enlighten me. A wise man welcomes correction. > I'm > not wise yet, but working on it. > Cheers, > Derf > _______________________________________________ > http://btdtracing.com > 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata > 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 > > "Here is something that helps me: I'm going to die and everyone I know is > going to die. We're all riding in a plane that is about to crash, it's > already swerving and going up and down. Are you going to sit there and > worry about "I don't have the shoes I want?" Why would you give a f*** > about anything if you're sliding towards death. It's the only thing that > keeps me going." - Ron Bennington From Daniel1312 at aol.com Thu Jun 21 13:01:35 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:01:35 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Diff Action Message-ID: Torsen is brand name and Gleason (?) have in recent years protected their brand name product. Torsen means Torque Sensing and is a gear type diff and was first used, to my knowledge, in the original Audi Quatro (I guess it used 3?). A torsen diff gradually locks up the diff action to a preset 80 or 95% or whatever. A Quaife diff is a torsen but they've had to call it automatic torque biasing. The Phantom Grip has a torsen effect but is a device to modify the behaviour of a diff. An LSD or plate type diff doesn't sense torque but I think speed. What happens is that it doesn't lock across the diff but switches power to one wheel - the one with grip. This is a Trannex, Gripper or the ZF like in some BMWs. I always think of viscous as a viscous coupling rather than a diff but I suppose they can be made as a diff. Ferguson have the patent on them as far as I know. I'm less certain how a viscous works but expect a similar response to a Torsen. The driven characteristics between a Torsen and an LSD is markedly different. Regards Daniel1312 In a message dated 21/06/07 19:07:36 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: > LSD From Daniel1312 at aol.com Thu Jun 21 14:09:44 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:09:44 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] test1 Message-ID: From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 14:16:52 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:16:52 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Diff action In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706211316r3c53d806s2c8d227aa2319e15@mail.gmail.com> To me, Torsen, viscous (or viscous coupling), and clutch type are different forms of LSDs. Quaiffe is a type of Torsen. Phantom grip is a sort of crude clutch type which applies spring pressure to the spider gears and creates friction, crude but effective. Viscous is like a goo filled torque converter. Clutch types have clutch disks that provide friction and like the Phantom, just discourage the planetary gears from turning. Torsen LSDs have a bias set by the gear ratios. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 14:30:59 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:30:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Torque Sensing LSD Message-ID: <5f00d9910706211330w2706e4c2yf6e082f8c614348e@mail.gmail.com> An explanation of a regular diff can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_%28mechanical_device%29 A diff generally looks like the pic but has two planetary gears (the green one in the illustration) Your Phantom grip applies spring pressure to the two planetary gears. The springs push out on the two blocks. The block/spring assembly is essentially a clutch that keeps the planetary gears from turning. The heavier the spring pressure, the more the diff stays "locked" or the two planetary gears do not turn and the diff is turning both wheels. A Torsen LSD uses different types of gearing for the "planetary" part of the diff. Again, the difference of gearing and friction make the LSD system work. I suppose Mr. Daniel uses the term "LSD" to refer to clutch type LSDs. Therefore he perceives a difference between "Torsen" and "LSD" where I see a Torsen as a type of LSD. When the Mazda lady told me "Torsen LSD" she was simply stating that the car had a "Torque Sensing Limited Slip Differential". Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 14:39:10 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:39:10 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Torque Sensing LSD In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706211330w2706e4c2yf6e082f8c614348e@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910706211330w2706e4c2yf6e082f8c614348e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706211339s327cb005m566a41081820d009@mail.gmail.com> To understand a viscous LSD or VLSD, picture a drum full of thick goop. Picture the axles having tabs on the end like turbine fans. As the turbine fans rotate at different speeds, the tabs heat the goop by friction. As the good heats, it thickens. So, the more the axles turn at different rates, the thicker the goop and the more resistance against turning at different rates. If the axles turn at the same rate, the goop is less thick. There is a better explanation somewhere online. Let me see if I can find it. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 14:44:34 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:44:34 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Torque Sensing LSD In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706211339s327cb005m566a41081820d009@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910706211330w2706e4c2yf6e082f8c614348e@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910706211339s327cb005m566a41081820d009@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706211344x40dc8532jdb006bf4695581f0@mail.gmail.com> Ok, here is a good explanation of the types of LSDs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_slip_differential There are links to get more details. From Daniel1312 at aol.com Thu Jun 21 14:46:57 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:46:57 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Torque Sensing diff or LSD Message-ID: After a time delay lag my other post should have arrived by now. I will add a bit more info though. In my experience sale and marketing have no idea what kind of diff there car has and if they have a brand name or vague description they promise to call someone and get back to you but they never do. I don't perceive a difference there IS A DIFFERENCE. I'm not just talking about a brand or a design. The fact is a true LSD has very significant driving characteristics to a Torsen type of diff. The characteristics are due to the very specific way the power is transferred according to the diff. The torsen balances the power evenly across the 2 wheels by locking up when one wheel spins whereas the LSD switches all the power it can (varying according to design and settings) to the wheel with grip. A back to back test on a wet road in a rear wheel drive car soon teaches they are quite different and not just a perception by myself or anyone else. Also there are more than one type of LSD - clutch pack type is one made by several manufacturers while Cam and Pawl made (NLA) by Jack Knight is another. A Torsen is not an LSD and neither is a Quaife. Wikipedia is ok but it's not always necessarily authoritive in my experience. Regards Daniel1312 In a message dated 21/06/07 21:32:31 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: > I suppose Mr. Daniel uses the term "LSD" to refer to clutch type LSDs. > Therefore he perceives a difference between "Torsen" and "LSD" where I see a > Torsen as a type of LSD. When the Mazda lady told me "Torsen LSD" she was > simply stating that the car had a "Torque Sensing Limited Slip > Differential". From cciaffone at verizon.net Thu Jun 21 16:04:40 2007 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 18:04:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] WWOT -- Cable tie/mount needed Message-ID: <467AF5F8.9010803@verizon.net> For my 97 honda rice burner -- there is a wiring harness that runs along the front right wheel well and is secured to the metal body parts by a set of (ugh!) plastic doofrangies. They each push into a 1/4 inch hole and have a cable tie to wrap around and cinch the cable bundle. They have broke. I have tried Radio Shack, AutoZone, and Honda, and my local mom&pop hardware emporium with no luck. Where do I find these?? chuck From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 21 16:15:43 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:15:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] WWOT -- Cable tie/mount needed References: <467AF5F8.9010803@verizon.net> Message-ID: <089a01c7b451$b6acb130$6401a8c0@Larry> If you can't find the correct part, GB, the company that makes cable ties, has 4" cable ties part # 45-104UVB and cable tie mounting bases part # 45-MBUVB. Find them in the electrical department. The mounting bases are mounted by adhesive pads that I have found are a devil to pull back off. I've never had one fail, but I use them in my office not in the hot underhood environment. Prep the surface well. Might work -- cheap and worth a try. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "chuck" To: "spridget list" Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 5:04 PM Subject: [Spridgets] WWOT -- Cable tie/mount needed For my 97 honda rice burner -- there is a wiring harness that runs along the front right wheel well and is secured to the metal body parts by a set of (ugh!) plastic doofrangies. They each push into a 1/4 inch hole and have a cable tie to wrap around and cinch the cable bundle. They have broke. I have tried Radio Shack, AutoZone, and Honda, and my local mom&pop hardware emporium with no luck. Where do I find these?? chuck _______________________________________________ ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From Daniel1312 at aol.com Thu Jun 21 17:00:00 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:00:00 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Torque Sensing LSD Message-ID: To be honest I'd say that was a poor and confused explantion by a writer that sounded like he'd never driven any car let alone one with a Torsen or LSD. I think I said earlier that you can't trust wikipedia to be be correct. For example the clutch plate explanation is simply wrong in respect of a ZF clutch plate diff and I do have reference material that came direct from ZF. Daniel1312 In a message dated 21/06/07 23:48:40 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: > Ok, here is a good explanation of the types of LSDs: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_slip_differential > > There are links to get more details. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 17:04:15 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:04:15 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Torque Sensing diff or LSD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706211604n4e54940eo84bc8f524020f066@mail.gmail.com> I think Torque Sensing is a type of LSD. I am not alone in this theory. Mazda seem to think it is. Options listed for Miatas include "Torsen limited-slip rear differential." That doesn't make me or Mazda correct. But, as far as I'm concerned (and many others, Wikipedia included) LSD can mean Torsen, viscous, clutch type, or others. Your definition of Limited Slip Differential differs from mine. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 17:11:59 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:11:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Torque Sensing LSD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706211611u64cc9c96h3d66702968130057@mail.gmail.com> I've driven cars with open, Torsen, Detroit Locker, spools, and clutch type LSD diffs. They all behave differently. From what I read, clutch type is better for racing and extreme off-road use. If you choose to call them open, Torsen, Viscous, and LSDs exclusively then so be it. I am of the opinion that Torsen and Viscous are types of LSDs. You say tomato. I say tomato. Wait, that doesn't work........... From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jun 21 17:34:28 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 18:34:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Torque Sensing LSD References: <5f00d9910706211611u64cc9c96h3d66702968130057@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <030901c7b45c$b6904e90$0401a8c0@midget> > I've driven cars with open, Torsen, Detroit Locker, spools, and clutch > type > LSD diffs. They all behave differently. From what I read, clutch type is > better for racing and extreme off-road use. > If you choose to call them open, Torsen, Viscous, and LSDs exclusively > then > so be it. > I am of the opinion that Torsen and Viscous are types of LSDs. > > You say tomato. I say tomato. Wait, that doesn't work........... It worked for me, derF ;-) You must remember that Daniel is from the land of swarf and bonnets and speaks a different language, although it seems quirte similar in spots. Remember, they think nothing of using a torch to check the level of petrol. Over here, LSD means Limited Slip Differential and is a concept that can be implemented in many different ways. Over there, who knows? David Lieb From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 17:55:58 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:55:58 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Torque Sensing LSD In-Reply-To: <030901c7b45c$b6904e90$0401a8c0@midget> References: <5f00d9910706211611u64cc9c96h3d66702968130057@mail.gmail.com> <030901c7b45c$b6904e90$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706211655u7442ed2cmaee00dd3a5076f45@mail.gmail.com> I agree, Mr. Lieb. But, I respectfully disagree with him. The Mazda lady said "Torsen LSD". To me, that makes perfect sense. To my ex-hippie friends, Torsen LSD has yet another meaning, they would think acid made by some Sweed who's dad was named Tor. A tree falls in the woods and no one is there to hear it? Does it make a sound? Yes. But, it depends on your definition of sound. His definition of Limited Slip Differential is not the same as mine. He is a learned, published author. I am no one of import from Louisiana. But, my definitions and perceptions are mine. I called it by the name the manufacturer uses. Who is he to say I'm wrong in that? Correspond with Mazda, Wikipedia, and countless others who think as I do. Inform them that they are all wrong. Or, realize that we are just basing our opinions on differing definitions of LSD and lets hope a new topic comes up soon. From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Jun 21 18:05:51 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:05:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Torque Sensing LSD In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706211655u7442ed2cmaee00dd3a5076f45@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910706211611u64cc9c96h3d66702968130057@mail.gmail.com> <030901c7b45c$b6904e90$0401a8c0@midget> <5f00d9910706211655u7442ed2cmaee00dd3a5076f45@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000601c7b461$1a9d1cc0$4fd75640$@com> OK, all you Mazda homos... take it outside, will ya? -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of derf Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 6:56 PM To: David Lieb Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Torque Sensing LSD I agree, Mr. Lieb. But, I respectfully disagree with him. The Mazda lady said "Torsen LSD". To me, that makes perfect sense. To my ex-hippie friends, Torsen LSD has yet another meaning, they would think acid made by some Sweed who's dad was named Tor. A tree falls in the woods and no one is there to hear it? Does it make a sound? Yes. But, it depends on your definition of sound. His definition of Limited Slip Differential is not the same as mine. He is a learned, published author. I am no one of import from Louisiana. But, my definitions and perceptions are mine. I called it by the name the manufacturer uses. Who is he to say I'm wrong in that? Correspond with Mazda, Wikipedia, and countless others who think as I do. Inform them that they are all wrong. Or, realize that we are just basing our opinions on differing definitions of LSD and lets hope a new topic comes up soon. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Jun 21 18:10:24 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:10:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] WWOT -- Cable tie/mount needed In-Reply-To: <467AF5F8.9010803@verizon.net> Message-ID: > They each push into a 1/4 inch hole and have a cable tie to > wrap around and cinch the cable bundle. They have broke. Get them at the local Mustang restoration shop. From pythias at pacifier.com Thu Jun 21 18:17:59 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:17:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] hood emblem? Message-ID: <727825577.20070621171759@pacifier.com> Hello Spridgets, OK, so NO one replied about a hood emblem.... i guess no one has one to part with?... next thing then, is WHERE should i get one .. are the ones from Mo** different/worse than the ones from VB or Ebay? tips, hints, comments, suggestions? -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite "the red thing" (HAN8L 49403) If i didn't exist they'd have to invent me From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 18:19:07 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 18:19:07 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Torque Sensing LSD In-Reply-To: <000601c7b461$1a9d1cc0$4fd75640$@com> References: <5f00d9910706211611u64cc9c96h3d66702968130057@mail.gmail.com> <030901c7b45c$b6904e90$0401a8c0@midget> <5f00d9910706211655u7442ed2cmaee00dd3a5076f45@mail.gmail.com> <000601c7b461$1a9d1cc0$4fd75640$@com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706211719i115f0787y4a9ea54162513400@mail.gmail.com> On 6/21/07, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > > OK, all you Mazda homos... take it outside, will ya? > > Them's fightin words. Better watch your back. I'll dispatch some cars with the Zoom Zoom decals to take care of you. I don't know any gay Miata drivers, not that there's anything wrong with that. From danginah at charter.net Thu Jun 21 18:23:01 2007 From: danginah at charter.net (Dan Gillitzer) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:23:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] hood emblem? (Bill L) Message-ID: <002d01c7b463$7e842560$fae79f18@D4QZGL91> >From what I've seen they are all plastic, which is debateable as far as correctness. But cheaper that way. AHS makes a high-bucks, WAY over the top metal one. Dan From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Jun 21 18:27:16 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:27:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Torque Sensing LSD In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706211719i115f0787y4a9ea54162513400@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910706211611u64cc9c96h3d66702968130057@mail.gmail.com> <030901c7b45c$b6904e90$0401a8c0@midget> <5f00d9910706211655u7442ed2cmaee00dd3a5076f45@mail.gmail.com> <000601c7b461$1a9d1cc0$4fd75640$@com> <5f00d9910706211719i115f0787y4a9ea54162513400@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000301c7b464$187a5c70$496f1550$@com> http://www.gay.com/style/auto/package.html?sernum=496 http://www.cartalk.com/content/features/Gay-Lesbian/gay-guy2.html From: derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 7:19 PM To: Wm. Severin Thompson Cc: David Lieb; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Torque Sensing LSD On 6/21/07, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: OK, all you Mazda homos... take it outside, will ya? Them's fightin words. Better watch your back. I'll dispatch some cars with the Zoom Zoom decals to take care of you. I don't know any gay Miata drivers, not that there's anything wrong with that. From hal at katemuir.com Thu Jun 21 19:07:23 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 18:07:23 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Torque Sensing LSD In-Reply-To: <000301c7b464$187a5c70$496f1550$@com> Message-ID: Flounder, Please tell us that you found this link by Googling "gay driver miyata" and that it's not in your favorites (or bookmarks. Hal -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Wm. Severin Thompson Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 5:27 PM To: 'derf' Cc: 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Torque Sensing LSD http://www.gay.com/style/auto/package.html?sernum=496 http://www.cartalk.com/content/features/Gay-Lesbian/gay-guy2.html From: derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 7:19 PM To: Wm. Severin Thompson Cc: David Lieb; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Torque Sensing LSD On 6/21/07, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: OK, all you Mazda homos... take it outside, will ya? Them's fightin words. Better watch your back. I'll dispatch some cars with the Zoom Zoom decals to take care of you. I don't know any gay Miata drivers, not that there's anything wrong with that. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jun 21 19:12:47 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:12:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Torque Sensing LSD References: Message-ID: <032501c7b46a$723dbc10$0401a8c0@midget> > Flounder, > Please tell us that you found this link by Googling "gay driver miyata" > and > that it's not in your favorites (or bookmarks. You think the sign on the door says "Homo Club" for nothing? ED From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Jun 21 19:55:19 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:55:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] smokin crack Message-ID: <000701c7b470$64deac40$2e9c04c0$@com> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Bugeye-Sprite-Midget-Competition-Windscreen_W 0QQitemZ150133153485QQihZ005QQcategoryZ42606QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Item number: 150133153485 Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 20:01:44 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:01:44 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Torque Sensing LSD In-Reply-To: <000301c7b464$187a5c70$496f1550$@com> References: <5f00d9910706211611u64cc9c96h3d66702968130057@mail.gmail.com> <030901c7b45c$b6904e90$0401a8c0@midget> <5f00d9910706211655u7442ed2cmaee00dd3a5076f45@mail.gmail.com> <000601c7b461$1a9d1cc0$4fd75640$@com> <5f00d9910706211719i115f0787y4a9ea54162513400@mail.gmail.com> <000301c7b464$187a5c70$496f1550$@com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706211901y48170134y681f5f78aa793b6e@mail.gmail.com> Some listers know an awful lot about the gay lifestyle, not that there's anything wrong with that. From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jun 21 20:07:07 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 22:07:07 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Torque Sensing LSD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <467B2ECB.40709@comcast.net> Hal Faulkner wrote: > Flounder, > Please tell us that you found this link by Googling "gay driver miyata" and > that it's not in your favorites (or bookmarks. Yeah Hal, I was wondering the same thing. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 20:12:44 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:12:44 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Torque Sensing LSD In-Reply-To: <467B2ECB.40709@comcast.net> References: <467B2ECB.40709@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706211912t54e095d6v772674846bf11d0c@mail.gmail.com> He was awfully quick with the links. I don't think he had to do much searching. > Please tell us that you found this link by Googling "gay driver miyata" > and > > that it's not in your favorites (or bookmarks. > > > Yeah Hal, I was wondering the same thing. From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Jun 21 20:15:15 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 21:15:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Torque Sensing LSD In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706211901y48170134y681f5f78aa793b6e@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910706211611u64cc9c96h3d66702968130057@mail.gmail.com> <030901c7b45c$b6904e90$0401a8c0@midget> <5f00d9910706211655u7442ed2cmaee00dd3a5076f45@mail.gmail.com> <000601c7b461$1a9d1cc0$4fd75640$@com> <5f00d9910706211719i115f0787y4a9ea54162513400@mail.gmail.com> <000301c7b464$187a5c70$496f1550$@com> <5f00d9910706211901y48170134y681f5f78aa793b6e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000d01c7b473$2de639d0$89b2ad70$@com> Some listers seem to know a lot about Miatas... You connect the dots... -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of derf Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 9:02 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Torque Sensing LSD Some listers know an awful lot about the gay lifestyle, not that there's anything wrong with that. From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jun 21 20:20:04 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 22:20:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] smokin crack In-Reply-To: <000701c7b470$64deac40$2e9c04c0$@com> References: <000701c7b470$64deac40$2e9c04c0$@com> Message-ID: <467B31D4.7050207@comcast.net> Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > Item number: 150133153485 I heard that company restores Midgets for 28,000 dollars too. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 20:30:04 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:30:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Torque Sensing LSD In-Reply-To: <000d01c7b473$2de639d0$89b2ad70$@com> References: <5f00d9910706211611u64cc9c96h3d66702968130057@mail.gmail.com> <030901c7b45c$b6904e90$0401a8c0@midget> <5f00d9910706211655u7442ed2cmaee00dd3a5076f45@mail.gmail.com> <000601c7b461$1a9d1cc0$4fd75640$@com> <5f00d9910706211719i115f0787y4a9ea54162513400@mail.gmail.com> <000301c7b464$187a5c70$496f1550$@com> <5f00d9910706211901y48170134y681f5f78aa793b6e@mail.gmail.com> <000d01c7b473$2de639d0$89b2ad70$@com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706211930y65982a73y3bca61819f0eae86@mail.gmail.com> I know I've had more than one teenage GIRL hop into my Miata and ask for a ride. I had a 72 Midget in high school and dated a GIRL with an MGB. I know a few gay people, both men and women. They all seem to drive Honda or Toyota sedans. I am most certainly hetero. You can be gay, however, not that there's anything wrong with that. From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jun 21 20:34:50 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 22:34:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Torque Sensing LSD In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706211930y65982a73y3bca61819f0eae86@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910706211611u64cc9c96h3d66702968130057@mail.gmail.com> <030901c7b45c$b6904e90$0401a8c0@midget> <5f00d9910706211655u7442ed2cmaee00dd3a5076f45@mail.gmail.com> <000601c7b461$1a9d1cc0$4fd75640$@com> <5f00d9910706211719i115f0787y4a9ea54162513400@mail.gmail.com> <000301c7b464$187a5c70$496f1550$@com> <5f00d9910706211901y48170134y681f5f78aa793b6e@mail.gmail.com> <000d01c7b473$2de639d0$89b2ad70$@com> <5f00d9910706211930y65982a73y3bca61819f0eae86@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <467B354A.2080509@comcast.net> derf wrote: > I know I've had more than one teenage GIRL hop into my Miata and ask for a > ride. They all ask me for a ride in my Sprite but I have to tell them to "go get their mother" :) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Thu Jun 21 20:37:11 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:37:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Torque Sensing LSD In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706211930y65982a73y3bca61819f0eae86@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910706211611u64cc9c96h3d66702968130057@mail.gmail.com><030901c7b45c$b6904e90$0401a8c0@midget><5f00d9910706211655u7442ed2cmaee00dd3a5076f45@mail.gmail.com><000601c7b461$1a9d1cc0$4fd75640$@com><5f00d9910706211719i115f0787y4a9ea54162513400@mail.gmail.com><000301c7b464$187a5c70$496f1550$@com><5f00d9910706211901y48170134y681f5f78aa793b6e@mail.gmail.com><000d01c7b473$2de639d0$89b2ad70$@com> <5f00d9910706211930y65982a73y3bca61819f0eae86@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6c1ca122f1a10e46a13acaa.20070621193711.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> What about a Honda Coupe with a 5 speed? This might be an adventure in self discovery. The teenage girls want to ride the Harley in my neck of the woods. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 02 HD Heritage Springer 04 Honda Accord Coupe 5 speed 94 Honda Civic Coupe 5 speed 00 F-150 derf > I know I've had more than one teenage GIRL hop into my Miata and ask for a > ride. I had a 72 Midget in high school and dated a GIRL with an MGB. > I know a few gay people, both men and women. They all seem to drive Honda > or Toyota sedans. > I am most certainly hetero. > You can be gay, however, not that there's anything wrong with that. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jun 21 20:43:25 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 21:43:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Torque Sensing LSD References: <5f00d9910706211611u64cc9c96h3d66702968130057@mail.gmail.com><030901c7b45c$b6904e90$0401a8c0@midget><5f00d9910706211655u7442ed2cmaee00dd3a5076f45@mail.gmail.com><000601c7b461$1a9d1cc0$4fd75640$@com><5f00d9910706211719i115f0787y4a9ea54162513400@mail.gmail.com><000301c7b464$187a5c70$496f1550$@com><5f00d9910706211901y48170134y681f5f78aa793b6e@mail.gmail.com><000d01c7b473$2de639d0$89b2ad70$@com><5f00d9910706211930y65982a73y3bca61819f0eae86@mail.gmail.com> <467B354A.2080509@comcast.net> Message-ID: <034001c7b477$1bc8a270$0401a8c0@midget> > They all ask me for a ride in my Sprite but I have to tell them to > "go get their mother" :) Is there room for three in your Sprite??? From wolf.brent at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 21:32:13 2007 From: wolf.brent at gmail.com (Brent Wolf) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 23:32:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Torque Sensing diff or LSD In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706211604n4e54940eo84bc8f524020f066@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910706211604n4e54940eo84bc8f524020f066@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <62b83300706212032s33b2636dm4c52799f52f0ec75@mail.gmail.com> Figured I would google tooo. *Quattro, Quaife, Torsen, Peloquin: (Torque Biasing Differentials)* The whole thing is called a "*Torsen*" system as in "*Tor*que *Sen*sing" (Torsen is actually a Quaife trademark, and the more generic term is *T*orque *B*iasing *D*ifferential or *TBD*) because it instantly reacts to torque imbalance transferring power to the wheels that can use it most. On 6/21/07, derf wrote: > > I think Torque Sensing is a type of LSD. > I am not alone in this theory. > Mazda seem to think it is. Options listed for Miatas include "Torsen > limited-slip rear differential." > That doesn't make me or Mazda correct. But, as far as I'm concerned (and > many others, Wikipedia included) LSD can mean Torsen, viscous, clutch > type, > or others. > Your definition of Limited Slip Differential differs from mine. > _______________________________________________ > wolf.brent at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bill at e-z.net Thu Jun 21 21:49:46 2007 From: bill at e-z.net (Bill) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:49:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] WWOT -- Cable tie/mount needed In-Reply-To: <467AF5F8.9010803@verizon.net> References: <467AF5F8.9010803@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1971258165.20070621204946@e-z.net> try an electrical supply house.. ask to see a T&B catalogue.. go to the section on ty-wraps... find what you need?!!! -- Best regards, Bill mailto:bill at e-z.net From hal at katemuir.com Thu Jun 21 23:17:28 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 22:17:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Harmonic balancer Message-ID: Did I see a post recently that named a place that rebuilds harmonic balancers? Of course< I can't find it anywhere I'm looking. Hal From Daniel1312 at aol.com Fri Jun 22 01:22:55 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 03:22:55 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Torque Sensing diff or LSD Message-ID: I suppose it's possible that the understanding of what LSD means is different in the UK to the USA. However, it's also easier to say I'd rather continue to call different things the same name because it's simpler to do so. Names can be misleading - ABS stands for anti-lock brakes but makes no sense unless you are German. Bosch claimed at least in one UK magazine to have invented ABS and were really put out when I pointed that Ferguson invented it before them. In my experience there is NOTHING as confusing as calling different things the same name. My 4 yr old daughter calls stuff things when she doesn't know the name of the item. I have to work out what she means by asking a lot of questions. An LSD is not a Torsen and it works completely differently. Of course the end result is quite similar up to a point. When I get to drive a 'fast' car with rear wheel drive one of the first things I want to know is what sort of diff it has. A full throttle standing start usually answers the question and then I know it's open, Torsen or LSD. I do need to know that. If I just think it's an LSD I would still need to know what type to drive (not race) accordingly. Anything is right or wrong. I can choose to call my Sprite a Spridget which is correct but it's not a Midget. If I had a 1500 Midget would I be correct in calling it a Sprite because it was the same as a Sprite because they were all Spridgets. Is there a difference here and does it matter? Or what if I had a Midget and called it an MGB because they are both MGs - does it matter. If people want to say I want to call a Torsen diff an LSD that's their choice but it doesn't make it correct. I've already said Wikipedia is unreliable - what does it say about ABS and who invented it? As far a torsen being the same as an LSD I maintain it's not. Anyone can call it the same thing if they want to but it's not an interpretation. I'ts obviously not new to me for people to call a Torsen (or a Quaife ATB) an LSD but it's wrong and not helpful. One of things I like about the list is learning new stuff. On the list I don't claim to be anything different from anyone else and the merit in this my arguments should stand on their own merit just the same as anyone elses. Regards Daniel1312 In a message dated 22/06/07 00:04:31 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: > Your definition of Limited Slip Differential differs from mine. From Daniel1312 at aol.com Fri Jun 22 01:25:47 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 03:25:47 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Diff action Message-ID: The Phantom has the character of a Torsen. Clutch plate diffs don't discourage the planetary gears from turning they actually ensure more power goes to the wheel with the grip. If I had time I'd find ZFs website and do a search on it. Regards Daniel1312 In a message dated 22/06/07 00:38:26 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: > Clutch > types have clutch disks that provide friction and like the Phantom, just > discourage the planetary gears from turning. From Daniel1312 at aol.com Fri Jun 22 02:14:08 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 04:14:08 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Final word on diffs - at least from me. Message-ID: Oopps, I course I wasn't saying what I'm saying now 7 years ago or even last year!! From Daniel1312 at aol.com Fri Jun 22 02:16:08 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 04:16:08 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Torque Sensing diff or LSD Message-ID: I thought Torsen was a Gleason trademark name? In a message dated 22/06/07 08:58:22 GMT Daylight Time, wolf.brent at gmail.com writes: > *Quattro, Quaife, Torsen, Peloquin: (Torque Biasing Differentials)* > The whole thing is called a "*Torsen*" system as in "*Tor*que *Sen*sing" > (Torsen is actually a Quaife trademark, and the more generic term is > *T*orque > *B*iasing *D*ifferential or *TBD*) because it instantly reacts to torque > imbalance transferring power to the wheels that can use it most. From Daniel1312 at aol.com Fri Jun 22 03:09:33 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 05:09:33 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet Message-ID: All you racing types - how many sizes of sway bar do you drop down when racing in the wet? Daniel1312 - Off to do tech at a wet Silvestone any minute now... From dmeadow at juno.com Fri Jun 22 05:00:44 2007 From: dmeadow at juno.com (dmeadow at juno.com) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 06:00:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet Message-ID: <20070622.060044.3664.1.dmeadow@juno.com> We might disconnect the sway bar (front and rear, or one or the other), but we don't change sizes. Which one we disconnect has to do with the characteristics of the car (tends to oversteer or understeer) and the track conditions. On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 05:09:33 EDT Daniel1312 at aol.com writes: > All you racing types - how many sizes of sway bar do you drop down > when > racing in the wet? > > Daniel1312 - Off to do tech at a wet Silvestone any minute now... > > _______________________________________________ > dmeadow at juno.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wsthompson at thicko.com Fri Jun 22 06:17:23 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 07:17:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001c01c7b4c7$4bfc8380$e3f58a80$@com> LOL... yeah, right. We usually have time to change tires... that's it. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daniel1312 at aol.com Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 4:10 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet All you racing types - how many sizes of sway bar do you drop down when racing in the wet? Daniel1312 - Off to do tech at a wet Silvestone any minute now... From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jun 22 06:36:39 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 06:36:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Torque Sensing diff or LSD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706220536tdda50c3r8940c873f97f7e66@mail.gmail.com> American Spriteisms: Bugeye = Sprite. Spridget = Sprite/Midget, Bugeye and RWA inclusive. The correct moniker for a 1500 is Spitfidget, a different species. MGB is a different genus. My Torsen (type 2) feels much the same as a clutch type from full throttle standing starts. It seems to "lock" pretty quickly. The differences, to me, come in when cornering. Something I am learning to get used to on the Miata is the tendency to oversteer on a trailing throttle. I'm sure the Torsen is a factor in this but I haven't driven a Miata without the Torsen. I, too, learn a lot from the list. In an effort to be helpful I am quick to try and answer questions. I love a good argument and appreciate correction. Now, if I could just get my spell checker to change "Miata" to "MX-5" and "Torsen LSD" to "Torsen type differential", then our friends across the pond would better understand my posts. In future I will refer to the three screws on each side of the Spridget rear brake drum/axle as "Pozidriv", a lesson having been learned there. "Anything to declare?" "Don't go to England." From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jun 22 06:48:42 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 8:48:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Torque Sensing LSD Message-ID: <20070622124842.BFRU1673.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Maybe he just likes to watch? > From: "David Lieb" > > > They all ask me for a ride in my Sprite but I have to tell them to > > "go get their mother" :) > > Is there room for three in your Sprite??? From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jun 22 06:50:25 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 07:50:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet References: Message-ID: <096301c7b4cb$e8e37510$6401a8c0@Larry> Daniel, it's an "anti-sway" bar. Of course, you can choose to call it a "sway" bar, but.... Sorry, I couldn't resist that. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 4:09 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet All you racing types - how many sizes of sway bar do you drop down when racing in the wet? Daniel1312 - Off to do tech at a wet Silvestone any minute now... From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jun 22 06:53:14 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 8:53:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] WWOT -- Cable tie/mount needed Message-ID: <20070622125314.CXOC25739.tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> or google "T&B Cataloque" http://www.tnb.com/ps/pubint/ > From: Bill > > try an electrical supply house.. ask to see a T&B catalogue.. > go to the section on ty-wraps... find what you need?!!! > > > -- > Best regards, > Bill mailto:bill at e-z.net From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jun 22 06:59:14 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 06:59:14 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet In-Reply-To: <096301c7b4cb$e8e37510$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <096301c7b4cb$e8e37510$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706220559y2795f190l34e1c485973e168f@mail.gmail.com> LOL. The nitpicking usually takes place during the winter. I guess the heat has everyone going bananas. On 6/22/07, Larry Daniels wrote: > > Daniel, it's an "anti-sway" bar. Of course, you can choose to call it a > "sway" bar, but.... > > Sorry, I couldn't resist that. > > LAD From jlaird237 at cox.net Fri Jun 22 07:12:13 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 08:12:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet References: <096301c7b4cb$e8e37510$6401a8c0@Larry> <5f00d9910706220559y2795f190l34e1c485973e168f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000e01c7b4ce$f32c2e10$6401a8c0@personal> The heat is awful, it is all I can do to keep ahead of the yard much less work on the few problems Miss Agatha needs help with. Think I need a jump start. ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "Larry Daniels" Cc: Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 7:59 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet > LOL. > The nitpicking usually takes place during the winter. I guess the heat > has > everyone going bananas. > > > On 6/22/07, Larry Daniels wrote: >> >> Daniel, it's an "anti-sway" bar. Of course, you can choose to call it a >> "sway" bar, but.... >> >> Sorry, I couldn't resist that. >> >> LAD > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.1/857 - Release Date: 6/20/2007 > 2:18 PM From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jun 22 07:12:46 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 08:12:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706220559y2795f190l34e1c485973e168f@mail.gmail.co m> References: <096301c7b4cb$e8e37510$6401a8c0@Larry> <5f00d9910706220559y2795f190l34e1c485973e168f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070622081013.03777850@nosimport.com> At 07:59 AM 6/22/2007, derf wrote: >LOL. >The nitpicking usually takes place during the winter. I guess the heat has >everyone going bananas. > > >On 6/22/07, Larry Daniels wrote: > > > > Daniel, it's an "anti-sway" bar. Of course, you can choose to call it a > > "sway" bar, but.... > > > > Sorry, I couldn't resist that. > > > > LAD ====== Actually.... it's an anti-roll bar which became roll bar. Not an anti roll-OVER bar, though. PPP Lord, I pray my brakes are twice as good as the guy in front of me.... ... and half as good as the guy behind. From cciaffone at verizon.net Fri Jun 22 07:17:42 2007 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 09:17:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] WWOT -- Cable tie/mount needed In-Reply-To: <20070622125314.CXOC25739.tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20070622125314.CXOC25739.tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <467BCBF6.7010705@verizon.net> Thanks for all the pointers. The ty-wraps I can find are just the wraps without the "plugs" that would anchor them into the frame. What I am looking for is a ty-wrap attached to a press-in 1/4" plug. Also, a 97 rice-burner need not be "concourse" so I'm dithering over several jury-rigged solutions -- we tight. thanks chuck Robert Duquette wrote: > or google "T&B Cataloque" > > http://www.tnb.com/ps/pubint/ > > > >> From: Bill >> >> try an electrical supply house.. ask to see a T&B catalogue.. >> go to the section on ty-wraps... find what you need?!!! >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Bill mailto:bill at e-z.net From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jun 22 07:27:45 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 08:27:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet References: <096301c7b4cb$e8e37510$6401a8c0@Larry> <5f00d9910706220559y2795f190l34e1c485973e168f@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070622081013.03777850@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <098d01c7b4d1$202d4230$6401a8c0@Larry> Actually.... it's an anti-roll bar which became roll bar. Not an anti roll-OVER bar, though. PPP Lord, I pray my brakes are twice as good as the guy in front of me.... ... and half as good as the guy behind. ========================== Picky, picky, picky. Must have had an extra martini with your anniversary dinner last night. Everybody say "Happy Anniversary" to Peter and his bride, Jane. LAD From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jun 22 07:38:15 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 08:38:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet In-Reply-To: <098d01c7b4d1$202d4230$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <096301c7b4cb$e8e37510$6401a8c0@Larry> <5f00d9910706220559y2795f190l34e1c485973e168f@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070622081013.03777850@nosimport.com> <098d01c7b4d1$202d4230$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070622083732.03146c60@nosimport.com> At 08:27 AM 6/22/2007, Larry Daniels wrote: >Actually.... it's an anti-roll bar which became roll bar. Not an anti >roll-OVER bar, though. > >PPP > >Lord, I pray my brakes are twice as good as the guy in front of me.... >... and half as good as the guy behind. > >========================== > >Picky, picky, picky. Must have had an extra martini with your anniversary >dinner last night. > >Everybody say "Happy Anniversary" to Peter and his bride, Jane. > > >LAD And it's her birthday today. 29 I like'm young. ppp From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Fri Jun 22 07:53:29 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 08:53:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet References: <096301c7b4cb$e8e37510$6401a8c0@Larry><5f00d9910706220559y2795f190l34e1c485973e168f@mail.gmail.com><7.0.1.0.2.20070622081013.03777850@nosimport.com><098d01c7b4d1$202d4230$6401a8c0@Larry> <7.0.1.0.2.20070622083732.03146c60@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <040101c7b4d4$b772f7e0$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> Like you AIN'T !! LOL From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jun 22 07:55:21 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 9:55:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Torque Sensing diff or LSD Message-ID: <20070622135522.FZFH13954.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Nah! They're all spridgets. Different flavours perhaps; but they share similar parts. Around here, if someone says they drive an MG, you can read from that that they drive an MGB and don't understand that there are other models. > From: derf > > American Spriteisms: > Bugeye = Sprite. Spridget = Sprite/Midget, Bugeye and RWA inclusive. The > correct moniker for a 1500 is Spitfidget, a different species. MGB is a > different genus. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jun 22 07:59:55 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 9:59:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet Message-ID: <20070622135955.KKSI1637.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> >From Mirriam Webster on the net: sway bar Main Entry: sway bar Function: noun : a bar that torsionally couples the right and left front-wheel suspensions of an automobile to reduce roll and sway > From: "Larry Daniels" > > Daniel, it's an "anti-sway" bar. Of course, you can choose to call it a > "sway" bar, but.... > > Sorry, I couldn't resist that. > > LAD From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Fri Jun 22 08:08:54 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 09:08:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Harmonic balancer References: Message-ID: <041301c7b4d6$deec2f10$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> Here, Hal. http://www.damperdoctor.com/ Ed From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jun 22 08:09:21 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:09:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] WWOT -- Cable tie/mount needed Message-ID: <20070622140921.YYUY6941.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> dealer? scrap yard? This site: http://www.wiringproducts.com/en-us/dept_274.html shows something that they call a "push mount base" at the bottom of the page. I think that's what you're looking for? > From: chuck > > Thanks for all the pointers. > > The ty-wraps I can find are just the wraps without the "plugs" that > would anchor them into the frame. What I am looking for is a > ty-wrap attached to a press-in 1/4" plug. Also, a 97 rice-burner > need not be "concourse" so I'm dithering over several jury-rigged > solutions -- we tight. > > thanks > > chuck > > Robert Duquette wrote: > > or google "T&B Cataloque" > > > > http://www.tnb.com/ps/pubint/ > > > > > > > >> From: Bill > >> > >> try an electrical supply house.. ask to see a T&B catalogue.. > >> go to the section on ty-wraps... find what you need?!!! > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Best regards, > >> Bill mailto:bill at e-z.net > _______________________________________________ > robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bpazur at excel.net Fri Jun 22 08:14:24 2007 From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 09:14:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Computer Question No LBC Message-ID: <200706221414.l5MEEOus010326@green.excel.net> I have an older computer with USB 1.1 ports. I am thinking of purchasing a dvr which outputs thru USB 2.0 ports. Wikipedia says that USB specifications have backword compatibility. So I should be able to input the USB 2.0 output into my USB 1.1 input and successfully ttransfer files from the dvr to the PC, right? I just won't be able to take advantage of the higher USB 2.0 transfer rate, right? Is there any way to install USB 2.0 ports in my computer? Thanks. Bud Pazur '60 Bugeye - Street Car - 1275cc - 'Mr. White' Race Spridget - 1275cc - 'SilverStreak' "The Buddha ... resides as comfortably in the gears of a ...transmission as he does in the petals of a flower." - Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jun 22 08:16:58 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 09:16:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet References: <20070622135955.KKSI1637.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <09a401c7b4d7$fffbaa40$6401a8c0@Larry> There are a lot of entries that are of the common vernacular, but not, technically, correct. As Peter pointed out, even "anti-sway" bar should be "anti-roll" bar. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet >From Mirriam Webster on the net: sway bar Main Entry: sway bar Function: noun : a bar that torsionally couples the right and left front-wheel suspensions of an automobile to reduce roll and sway > From: "Larry Daniels" > > Daniel, it's an "anti-sway" bar. Of course, you can choose to call it a > "sway" bar, but.... > > Sorry, I couldn't resist that. > > LAD _______________________________________________ ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jun 22 08:19:13 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 09:19:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet References: <20070622135955.KKSI1637.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <09a401c7b4d7$fffbaa40$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <09a901c7b4d8$5028df60$6401a8c0@Larry> BTW, your def from Webster says that it connects the front wheels. We all know that they also have them for the rear wheels. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" To: "Robert Duquette" ; Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 9:16 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet There are a lot of entries that are of the common vernacular, but not, technically, correct. As Peter pointed out, even "anti-sway" bar should be "anti-roll" bar. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet >From Mirriam Webster on the net: sway bar Main Entry: sway bar Function: noun : a bar that torsionally couples the right and left front-wheel suspensions of an automobile to reduce roll and sway > From: "Larry Daniels" > > Daniel, it's an "anti-sway" bar. Of course, you can choose to call it a > "sway" bar, but.... > > Sorry, I couldn't resist that. > > LAD _______________________________________________ ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _______________________________________________ ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bpazur at excel.net Fri Jun 22 08:22:06 2007 From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 09:22:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Previous Computer Question Message-ID: <200706221422.l5MEM6Bd022993@green.excel.net> To clear up any confusion in my previous post, the dvr I want to buy is a specialized surveillance dvr which records to its hard drive, not to a DVD. Bud Pazur '60 Bugeye - Street Car - 1275cc - 'Whitey' Race Spridget - 1275cc - 'SilverStreak' "The Buddha ... resides as comfortably in the gears of a ...transmission as he does in the petals of a flower." - Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jun 22 08:28:39 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 09:28:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet In-Reply-To: <09a401c7b4d7$fffbaa40$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <20070622135955.KKSI1637.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <09a401c7b4d7$fffbaa40$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070622092522.03499fe0@nosimport.com> Musta been the Canadian Webster, eh? Cars don't sway, they roll... though I did see a Buick the other day that wallowed and wiggled.... and another crabbing. I think Miatas have an anti-sashay bar. PPP == At 09:16 AM 6/22/2007, Larry Daniels wrote: >There are a lot of entries that are of the common vernacular, but not, >technically, correct. > >As Peter pointed out, even "anti-sway" bar should be "anti-roll" bar. > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Robert Duquette" >To: >Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 8:59 AM >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet > > > >From Mirriam Webster on the net: > >sway bar >Main Entry: sway bar >Function: noun >: a bar that torsionally couples the right and left front-wheel suspensions >of an automobile to reduce roll and sway > > > From: "Larry Daniels" > > > > Daniel, it's an "anti-sway" bar. Of course, you can choose to call it a > > "sway" bar, but.... > > > > Sorry, I couldn't resist that. > > > > LAD From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jun 22 08:29:15 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:29:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet Message-ID: <20070622142915.EPGL1673.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> I'm just glad that they don't suppress 'rock and roll'. :) I found that definition by accident and it surprised me. RD > From: "Larry Daniels" > > There are a lot of entries that are of the common vernacular, but not, > technically, correct. > > As Peter pointed out, even "anti-sway" bar should be "anti-roll" bar. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Duquette" > To: > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 8:59 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet > > > >From Mirriam Webster on the net: > > sway bar > Main Entry: sway bar > Function: noun > : a bar that torsionally couples the right and left front-wheel suspensions > of an automobile to reduce roll and sway > > > From: "Larry Daniels" > > > > Daniel, it's an "anti-sway" bar. Of course, you can choose to call it a > > "sway" bar, but.... > > > > Sorry, I couldn't resist that. > > > > LAD From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jun 22 08:31:11 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:31:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet Message-ID: <20070622143111.ILFF25465.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Let's hope they don't connect the "wheels", eh? > From: "Larry Daniels" > > BTW, your def from Webster says that it connects the front wheels. We all > know that they also have them for the rear wheels. > > LAD From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jun 22 08:39:20 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:39:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet Message-ID: <20070622143920.LXFM1637.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Sorry! :) Mailing Address: ( from the site ) Merriam-Webster, Inc. 47 Federal Street P.O. Box 281 Springfield, MA 01102 You would think that coming from a place named 'Spring Field' that they would know suspensions?? :) > From: Peter C > > Musta been the Canadian Webster, eh? > > Cars don't sway, they roll... though I did see a Buick the other day > that wallowed and wiggled.... and another crabbing. > > I think Miatas have an anti-sashay bar. > > PPP > == > At 09:16 AM 6/22/2007, Larry Daniels wrote: > > >There are a lot of entries that are of the common vernacular, but not, > >technically, correct. > > > >As Peter pointed out, even "anti-sway" bar should be "anti-roll" bar. > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Robert Duquette" > >To: > >Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 8:59 AM > >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet > > > > > > >From Mirriam Webster on the net: > > > >sway bar > >Main Entry: sway bar > >Function: noun > >: a bar that torsionally couples the right and left front-wheel suspensions > >of an automobile to reduce roll and sway > > > > > From: "Larry Daniels" > > > > > > Daniel, it's an "anti-sway" bar. Of course, you can choose to call it a > > > "sway" bar, but.... > > > > > > Sorry, I couldn't resist that. > > > > > > LAD > _______________________________________________ > robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Fri Jun 22 08:42:01 2007 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 09:42:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Computer Question No LBC In-Reply-To: <200706221414.l5MEEOus010326@green.excel.net> References: <200706221414.l5MEEOus010326@green.excel.net> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0706220742o42bb9bf4n8210ae33688782cc@mail.gmail.com> > Is there any way to install USB 2.0 ports in my computer? Yes, easily and cheaply! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815124007 You can probably even pick one up locally at a store like Staples, Best Buy, or Circuit City. From james.f.juhas at snet.net Fri Jun 22 08:54:22 2007 From: james.f.juhas at snet.net (James F Juhas) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:54:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070622092522.03499fe0@nosimport.com> References: <20070622135955.KKSI1637.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <09a401c7b4d7$fffbaa40$6401a8c0@Larry> <7.0.1.0.2.20070622092522.03499fe0@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <467BE29E.4070606@snet.net> Be careful what you say about my Miata! Peter C wrote: > Musta been the Canadian Webster, eh? > > Cars don't sway, they roll... though I did see a Buick the other day > that wallowed and wiggled.... and another crabbing. > > I think Miatas have an anti-sashay bar. > > PPP From kevin at valentinephoto.net Fri Jun 22 09:06:57 2007 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 11:06:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070622083732.03146c60@nosimport.com> References: <096301c7b4cb$e8e37510$6401a8c0@Larry> <5f00d9910706220559y2795f190l34e1c485973e168f@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070622081013.03777850@nosimport.com> <098d01c7b4d1$202d4230$6401a8c0@Larry> <7.0.1.0.2.20070622083732.03146c60@nosimport.com> Message-ID: On Jun 22, 2007, at 9:38 AM, Peter C wrote: > And it's her birthday today. 29 I like'm young. Peter, Tell her we said Happy Birthday! It's Kathy's birthday tomorrow. She's also going to be 29 (again) ;) Kevin From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jun 22 09:13:05 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:13:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet References: <20070622135955.KKSI1637.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <002d01c7b4df$d7497250$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > >From Mirriam Webster on the net: > > sway bar > Main Entry: sway bar > Function: noun > : a bar that torsionally couples the right and left front-wheel > suspensions of an automobile to reduce roll and sway I thought we had already establisged that you can never believe anything on the web if it doesn't agree with your previously-established opinion? From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jun 22 09:26:09 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:26:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070622092522.03499fe0@nosimport.com> References: <20070622135955.KKSI1637.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <09a401c7b4d7$fffbaa40$6401a8c0@Larry> <7.0.1.0.2.20070622092522.03499fe0@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0706220826m100948c4n3d3e9ecc870e8040@mail.gmail.com> On 6/22/07, Peter C wrote: > Musta been the Canadian Webster, eh? > > Cars don't sway, they roll... though I did see a Buick the other day > that wallowed and wiggled.... and another crabbing. > > I think Miatas have an anti-sashay bar. And in Wisconsin it is an anti-polka bar... ;-) Happy anniversary/birthday up north der..... Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jun 22 09:37:51 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:37:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet References: <20070622135955.KKSI1637.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca><09a401c7b4d7$fffbaa40$6401a8c0@Larry><7.0.1.0.2.20070622092522.03499fe0@nosimport.com> <43840a7e0706220826m100948c4n3d3e9ecc870e8040@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <004b01c7b4e3$4c0c7850$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >> Cars don't sway, they roll... though I did see a Buick the other day >> that wallowed and wiggled.... and another crabbing. >> I think Miatas have an anti-sashay bar. > And in Wisconsin it is an anti-polka bar... ;-) As long as it doesn't start to do-si-do or country line dance... From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jun 22 09:39:14 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:39:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet References: <096301c7b4cb$e8e37510$6401a8c0@Larry><5f00d9910706220559y2795f190l34e1c485973e168f@mail.gmail.com><7.0.1.0.2.20070622081013.03777850@nosimport.com><098d01c7b4d1$202d4230$6401a8c0@Larry><7.0.1.0.2.20070622083732.03146c60@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <09d201c7b4e3$7e5453a0$6401a8c0@Larry> Kevin and Peter, are you guys buying Happy 29th Birthday cards in bulk? Man, that is being cheap. And Peter, getting married on the day before Jane's birthday, were you thinking you could get away with only buying dinner once that way? ----- Original Message ----- From: "K. Valentine" To: "Peter C" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet On Jun 22, 2007, at 9:38 AM, Peter C wrote: > And it's her birthday today. 29 I like'm young. Peter, Tell her we said Happy Birthday! It's Kathy's birthday tomorrow. She's also going to be 29 (again) ;) Kevin _______________________________________________ ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jun 22 10:39:56 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 12:39:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet Message-ID: <20070622163956.NCOZ25465.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Kevin and Peter! So, she's 29 . . . How many years have you been married? RD From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jun 22 10:47:55 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 11:47:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet In-Reply-To: <20070622163956.NCOZ25465.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.s ympatico.ca> References: <20070622163956.NCOZ25465.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070622114552.032ed4f8@nosimport.com> It's not so much how long we have *been* married.... .....but rather how long we wish to *stay* married. PPP ... At 11:39 AM 6/22/2007, Robert Duquette wrote: >Kevin and Peter! > >So, she's 29 . . . > >How many years have you been married? > >RD From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jun 22 10:50:11 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 12:50:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet Message-ID: <20070622165011.QSJP1637.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Good answer! But, I want to know how long you've been married to someone who is now 29. > From: Peter C > > It's not so much how long we have *been* married.... > > .....but rather how long we wish to *stay* married. > > PPP > ... > > At 11:39 AM 6/22/2007, Robert Duquette wrote: > > > >Kevin and Peter! > > > >So, she's 29 . . . > > > >How many years have you been married? > > > >RD From kevin at valentinephoto.net Fri Jun 22 10:50:26 2007 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 12:50:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070622114552.032ed4f8@nosimport.com> References: <20070622163956.NCOZ25465.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <7.0.1.0.2.20070622114552.032ed4f8@nosimport.com> Message-ID: On Jun 22, 2007, at 12:47 PM, Peter C wrote: > It's not so much how long we have *been* married.... > > .....but rather how long we wish to *stay* married. Exactly right! From kevin at valentinephoto.net Fri Jun 22 10:53:44 2007 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 12:53:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet In-Reply-To: <09d201c7b4e3$7e5453a0$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <096301c7b4cb$e8e37510$6401a8c0@Larry><5f00d9910706220559y2795f190l34e1c485973e168f@mail.gmail.com><7.0.1.0.2.20070622081013.03777850@nosimport.com><098d01c7b4d1$202d4230$6401a8c0@Larry><7.0.1.0.2.20070622083732.03146c60@nosimport.com> <09d201c7b4e3$7e5453a0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <149F811F-9F46-4D79-AA20-6C29E9FE7F2F@valentinephoto.net> On Jun 22, 2007, at 11:39 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > Kevin and Peter, are you guys buying Happy 29th Birthday cards in > bulk? > Man, that is being cheap. Naw, I draw them myself ;) > > And Peter, getting married on the day before Jane's birthday, were you > thinking you could get away with only buying dinner once that way? Kathy and I were married on Christmas eve. My birthday is the day after Christmas.......... Kevin V. From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jun 22 11:06:29 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 12:06:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet In-Reply-To: <09d201c7b4e3$7e5453a0$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <096301c7b4cb$e8e37510$6401a8c0@Larry> <5f00d9910706220559y2795f190l34e1c485973e168f@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070622081013.03777850@nosimport.com> <098d01c7b4d1$202d4230$6401a8c0@Larry> <7.0.1.0.2.20070622083732.03146c60@nosimport.com> <09d201c7b4e3$7e5453a0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070622120448.03554170@nosimport.com> At 10:39 AM 6/22/2007, Larry Daniels wrote: >Kevin and Peter, are you guys buying Happy 29th Birthday cards in bulk? >Man, that is being cheap. Card? Oshit..... From wsthompson at thicko.com Fri Jun 22 12:01:20 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:01:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet In-Reply-To: <20070622163956.NCOZ25465.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20070622163956.NCOZ25465.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <001601c7b4f7$59d854e0$0d88fea0$@com> My second wife and I have a pre-nup that states there will be no divorce. However, she has the understanding that she could end up in the woodchipper and I'll make bitch jerky out of her and feed her to the 5 dogs. Ain't love grand? -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Duquette Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 11:40 AM To: kevin at valentinephoto.net; peter at nosimport.com Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet Kevin and Peter! So, she's 29 . . . How many years have you been married? RD From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jun 22 12:06:24 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:06:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet References: <20070622163956.NCOZ25465.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <001601c7b4f7$59d854e0$0d88fea0$@com> Message-ID: <006101c7b4f8$0c84d730$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > My second wife and I have a pre-nup that states there will be no divorce. > However, she has the understanding that she could end up in the > woodchipper > and I'll make bitch jerky out of her and feed her to the 5 dogs. > > Ain't love grand? Having met the two of you, I would lay odds on the existence of a clause stipulating that the jerky be made of the biggest jerk... From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jun 22 12:13:14 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:13:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet References: <20070622163956.NCOZ25465.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <001601c7b4f7$59d854e0$0d88fea0$@com> Message-ID: <0a2501c7b4f9$01de49f0$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: "'Robert Duquette'" ; ; Cc: "'Spridgets'" Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet My second wife and I have a pre-nup that states there will be no divorce. However, she has the understanding that she could end up in the woodchipper and I'll make bitch jerky out of her and feed her to the 5 dogs. Ain't love grand? ============================== And to think I wondered why in the world she married you. What is worse is the knowledge that I told you how to make the jerky. LAD From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jun 22 12:20:08 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:20:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet In-Reply-To: <0a2501c7b4f9$01de49f0$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <20070622163956.NCOZ25465.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <001601c7b4f7$59d854e0$0d88fea0$@com> <0a2501c7b4f9$01de49f0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070622131756.01b42208@nosimport.com> At 01:13 PM 6/22/2007, Larry Daniels wrote: >My second wife and I have a pre-nup that states there will be no divorce. >However, she has the understanding that she could end up in the woodchipper >and I'll make bitch jerky out of her and feed her to the 5 dogs. > >Ain't love grand? > >============================== > >And to think I wondered why in the world she married you. > >What is worse is the knowledge that I told you how to make the jerky. > >LAD ======== Oh my god.....Larry, at the track last weekend you said, "Have some turkey jerky" I assumed it was turkey, not some turkey. I may retch.... PPP From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri Jun 22 12:20:28 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 11:20:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] WWOT -- Cable tie/mount needed In-Reply-To: <467BCBF6.7010705@verizon.net> Message-ID: > ty-wrap attached to a press-in 1/4" plug. As I said earlier...MUSTANG restoration shops. Ford used them for years. You can order them from Dearborn, but I think there's a $50 minimum. That would probably be more than you'll need. BZ From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jun 22 12:22:24 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:22:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet References: <20070622163956.NCOZ25465.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <001601c7b4f7$59d854e0$0d88fea0$@com> <0a2501c7b4f9$01de49f0$6401a8c0@Larry> <7.0.1.0.2.20070622131756.01b42208@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <0a3901c7b4fa$4915d620$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter C" To: "Larry Daniels" ; "Wm. Severin Thompson" Cc: "'Spridgets'" Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet At 01:13 PM 6/22/2007, Larry Daniels wrote: >My second wife and I have a pre-nup that states there will be no divorce. >However, she has the understanding that she could end up in the woodchipper >and I'll make bitch jerky out of her and feed her to the 5 dogs. > >Ain't love grand? > >============================== > >And to think I wondered why in the world she married you. > >What is worse is the knowledge that I told you how to make the jerky. > >LAD ======== Oh my god.....Larry, at the track last weekend you said, "Have some turkey jerky" I assumed it was turkey, not some turkey. I may retch.... PPP ================ Well, did it taste good or not? That's all that is really important. LAD From mark at nashvilletn.org Fri Jun 22 12:32:47 2007 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:32:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] WWOT -- Cable tie/mount needed References: Message-ID: <010d01c7b4fb$bc8cbf00$8500a8c0@CT> Chuck, I have a supply of cable retainers that push in a 1/4 hole. The opening for the wire is about 3/8 and they stand about 1/2 inch above the panel. Send me a mailing address and I will put them in a bag this afternoon. Mark Nashville http://www.ArrestMeRed.com From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Fri Jun 22 14:06:07 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:06:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet In-Reply-To: <001601c7b4f7$59d854e0$0d88fea0$@com> References: <20070622163956.NCOZ25465.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <001601c7b4f7$59d854e0$0d88fea0$@com> Message-ID: <483D6DA8-C6D1-4DCC-9B23-34AA4DA0D4EC@comcast.net> Do you need some practice? I mean I would hate for you to be "rusty" when the time came... I do have two smaller dogs.. they could use some food.. I mean.. I am married and all.. Lester .. kinda like the old dog joke.. On Jun 22, 2007, at 1:01 PM, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > My second wife and I have a pre-nup that states there will be no > divorce. > However, she has the understanding that she could end up in the > woodchipper > and I'll make bitch jerky out of her and feed her to the 5 dogs. > > Ain't love grand? > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Duquette > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 11:40 AM > To: kevin at valentinephoto.net; peter at nosimport.com > Cc: Spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet > > Kevin and Peter! > > So, she's 29 . . . > > How many years have you been married? > > RD > _______________________________________________ > oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From hal at katemuir.com Fri Jun 22 14:28:43 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:28:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070622120448.03554170@nosimport.com> Message-ID: Peter, Shouldn't that be "OSHIT"? Hal -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Peter C Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 10:06 AM To: Larry Daniels; K. Valentine Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet At 10:39 AM 6/22/2007, Larry Daniels wrote: >Kevin and Peter, are you guys buying Happy 29th Birthday cards in bulk? >Man, that is being cheap. Card? Oshit..... From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Fri Jun 22 14:29:39 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:29:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet References: <20070622165011.QSJP1637.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <004601c7b50c$0f1507e0$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> Easy!!! Peter is only 39 so what does it matter???? LOL From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Fri Jun 22 15:09:26 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:09:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Computer Question No LBC In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0706220742o42bb9bf4n8210ae33688782cc@mail.gmail.com> References: <200706221414.l5MEEOus010326@green.excel.net> <8de85a9c0706220742o42bb9bf4n8210ae33688782cc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0706221409g677a971clb6418d22e5b24c57@mail.gmail.com> usb 1.1 is slow as dirt too, usb2 is as fast as firewire, IIRC. pick up the newegg upgrade. On 6/22/07, Jethro wrote: > > > Is there any way to install USB 2.0 ports in my computer? > > Yes, easily and cheaply! > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815124007 > > You can probably even pick one up locally at a store like Staples, > Best Buy, or Circuit City. > > > -- > http://btdtracing.com > 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata > 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 > > "Here is something that helps me: I'm going to die and everyone I know is > going to die. We're all riding in a plane that is about to crash, it's > already swerving and going up and down. Are you going to sit there and > worry about "I don't have the shoes I want?" Why would you give a f*** > about anything if you're sliding towards death. It's the only thing that > keeps me going." - Ron Bennington From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Fri Jun 22 15:41:03 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:41:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet References: Message-ID: <009d01c7b516$08af4280$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> NO, Hal. Copyrighted!!!!! From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Jun 22 16:56:58 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 18:56:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070622083732.03146c60@nosimport.com> References: <096301c7b4cb$e8e37510$6401a8c0@Larry> <5f00d9910706220559y2795f190l34e1c485973e168f@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070622081013.03777850@nosimport.com> <098d01c7b4d1$202d4230$6401a8c0@Larry> <7.0.1.0.2.20070622083732.03146c60@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <467C53BA.3080307@comcast.net> Peter C wrote: > And it's her birthday today. 29 I like'm young. My wife just had her 21st anniversery of her 29th birthday too. But she wanted a Jag! -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Jun 22 17:00:24 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 19:00:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070622120448.03554170@nosimport.com> References: <096301c7b4cb$e8e37510$6401a8c0@Larry> <5f00d9910706220559y2795f190l34e1c485973e168f@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070622081013.03777850@nosimport.com> <098d01c7b4d1$202d4230$6401a8c0@Larry> <7.0.1.0.2.20070622083732.03146c60@nosimport.com> <09d201c7b4e3$7e5453a0$6401a8c0@Larry> <7.0.1.0.2.20070622120448.03554170@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <467C5488.8040600@comcast.net> Peter C wrote: > Card? Oshit..... So are we holding an OSHIT to make a card? Tell Jane I said Happy Birthday but only AFTER you give her a card. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Fri Jun 22 20:55:03 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:55:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] chinese stuff for frank Message-ID: <8a336b9d0706221955j72a37c8ckb06857a6811fd424@mail.gmail.com> http://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/22/brilliance-bs6s-adac-crash-test-is-anything-but/ I like how the a pillar folds into the driver's head. -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 "Here is something that helps me: I'm going to die and everyone I know is going to die. We're all riding in a plane that is about to crash, it's already swerving and going up and down. Are you going to sit there and worry about "I don't have the shoes I want?" Why would you give a f*** about anything if you're sliding towards death. It's the only thing that keeps me going." - Ron Bennington From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Fri Jun 22 22:11:12 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 23:11:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] chinese stuff for frank References: <8a336b9d0706221955j72a37c8ckb06857a6811fd424@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00f901c7b54c$89f6e6f0$6501a8c0@actualshop> http://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/22/brilliance-bs6s-adac-crash-test-is-anythin g-but/ Frank NEEDS one of dem, Flash!!!!! Anon From BCAH at aol.com Fri Jun 22 23:42:13 2007 From: BCAH at aol.com (BCAH at aol.com) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 01:42:13 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] stuck in first gear Message-ID: Hello all,----I have a friend with a rib case that is stuck in first gear. We'll pull the trans this weekend and have a look. I do have one question though. The last time I did a gearbox I noticed there was a grove of sorts on the inside of the selector fork. I assumed it was purposely machined that way but always wondered if it was really the result of wear.If wear caused it, is there any specification as to the minimum thickness? Also, is there any truth to the rumor that the 5 speed Datsun boxes are getting hard to come by? TIA,---Bob C in Kansas ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. From grday at btinternet.com Sat Jun 23 03:22:44 2007 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 10:22:44 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] chinese stuff for frank References: <8a336b9d0706221955j72a37c8ckb06857a6811fd424@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <007001c7b578$0e9cd290$fdcb9751@tairswork> For the frontal impact look at the way the sills (rockers?) flex and fold after the outriggers holding the front suspension have bent. Just to assist the deformation the firewall collapses in the foowell / pedal area as well as the door buckling open. Built the same way as Franks (new) half hour tools are. Is it any wonder he throws them away? Ouch! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Flash." To: "Spridget List" ; "Michael DeCesaro" ; ; "William Thompson" Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 3:55 AM Subject: [Spridgets] chinese stuff for frank > http://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/22/brilliance-bs6s-adac-crash-test-is-anything-but/ > > I like how the a pillar folds into the driver's head. > > > -- > http://btdtracing.com > 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata > 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Sat Jun 23 06:32:24 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 08:32:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet In-Reply-To: References: <096301c7b4cb$e8e37510$6401a8c0@Larry> <5f00d9910706220559y2795f190l34e1c485973e168f@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070622081013.03777850@nosimport.com> <098d01c7b4d1$202d4230$6401a8c0@Larry> <7.0.1.0.2.20070622083732.03146c60@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <80FBEDF8-CDA6-4068-9881-EBBCCD929FEB@phillymgclub.com> Something about June. Happy B-day to Jane and Kathy, Happy Anniversary to Peter and Jane Happy Anniversary to Kristi and Lambert (6/21) Happy Anniversary to Larry and Theresa (6/22) I took Theresa to see Asia last night for our Anniversary. Great show, but is Steve Howe aging badly. Larry On Jun 22, 2007, at 11:06 AM, K. Valentine wrote: > On Jun 22, 2007, at 9:38 AM, Peter C wrote: > > >> And it's her birthday today. 29 I like'm young. > > > Peter, > > Tell her we said Happy Birthday! > > It's Kathy's birthday tomorrow. She's also going to be 29 (again) ;) > > Kevin > _______________________________________________ > lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jun 23 07:25:54 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 07:25:54 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] stuck in first gear In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706230625s710f8e21n9bbb9c88c89add6e@mail.gmail.com> I sold two Datsun 5 speed trannys on ebay recently for $400-500. So, I'd say they are getting scarce. From wsthompson at thicko.com Sat Jun 23 08:10:44 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 09:10:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] snotty cool Message-ID: <003201c7b5a0$4c3b7bb0$e4b27310$@com> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Austin-Healey-Sprite-Mazda-Rotary-Powered_W0Q QitemZ150133409791QQihZ005QQcategoryZ6023QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Item number: 150133409791 Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sat Jun 23 09:02:41 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 10:02:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] snotty cool In-Reply-To: <003201c7b5a0$4c3b7bb0$e4b27310$@com> References: <003201c7b5a0$4c3b7bb0$e4b27310$@com> Message-ID: ya know.. if I had more coffee in me I would ask if : 1. He still had the parts to make it original or 2. What kind of gas mileage does it get.. ;-) Lester On Jun 23, 2007, at 9:10 AM, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Austin-Healey-Sprite-Mazda-Rotary- > Powered_W0Q > QitemZ150133409791QQihZ005QQcategoryZ6023QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > > Item number: 150133409791 > > > > > > Wm. Severin Thompson > > ~iii > > > wsthompson at thicko.com > > www.thicko.com > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a > name of image001.png] > _______________________________________________ > oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wsthompson at thicko.com Sat Jun 23 09:26:57 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 10:26:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca Message-ID: <000301c7b5aa$f1dc1a70$d5944f50$@com> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19374590/ (that one's just for you Larry) Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From smarc at smarc.net Sat Jun 23 13:13:00 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 15:13:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Replacement brake lines Message-ID: <467D70BC.5090506@smarc.net> Found these in my local Salvo auto parts store here in Maryland. Seems to be the right stuff for my 73 Midget. Can anyone confirm this? http://www.agscompany.com/products/index.php?catId=23&viewProducts=true -- Marc From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Jun 23 13:24:56 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 15:24:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Off roading in a Sprite Message-ID: <467D7388.5020203@comcast.net> Diane and I decided to take a drive out in the pine barrens today. We had a great drive when I get the dumb idea to see if I can find the lake where we used to camp and drink beer when we were kids. So off the paved trail we go, several miles into the woods and I knew I was close to the lake because I found the same giant mud puddle that burried my Spitfire back in 1973. This time I avoided the deep part but still had black mud everywhere. A few more miles and I turned the Sprite into a bulldozer plowing sugar sand until I was belly deep in sand. No shovel, the jack just sank in the sand, and only a stick to try and dig it out. Remember, about 10 miles off the nearest paved road. I found a 6" flat rock and tried it under the jack, it sort of worked but only to lift the front end, the back was still burried, the tail pipe was blowing sand, the diff was 4" below the sand. Some sticks under the rocker to try and jack up the rear sort of worked. Diane is on the cell phone laughing with my daughter trying to convince her boyfriend to bring his truck out and yank us out. He wants to go out in his boat. I managed to dig out the diff with a stick and put some pine branches under the wheels. Jack it back down and just as I was about to see if the car would move, a convoy of Jeeps show up. A bunch of good ole boys jump out with snatch em straps, chains, and yelling hee haw, let's get em out! At the same time Diane calls Tiff to tell her the jeeps showed up so don't bother coming to yank us out. Well the jeeps couldn't get around my car, they were in front of me, the sugar sand went on forward for as long as you could see, I had to go backwards. When they figured out there was no way to pull me out, they helped push by hand and we made it back to solid dirt. After a few hand shakes and thank yous, I asked if the lake was still around here? They said we just came from the lake, it's just around the bend. But a Sprite and the sugar sand wasn't going to happen. All in all getting stuck in the woods was better than getting stuck in traffic. One of the guys in the Jeeps said I was crazy to be out here with that car, I told him I have 3 or 4 more at home just like it and they are meant to be driven! One of the Jeeps had a little boy of about 10 years old with them. He was thrilled to sit in the car and steer as we all pushed. And Diane wanted to know WHY I didn't have a shovel in the boot? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Sat Jun 23 13:26:05 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 14:26:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] stuck in first gear In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200706231923.l5NJNcnb010423@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> Let me know if you need comparison photos, I still can't mine together yet so its still all exposed. I did get the slave apart though-I guess you don't need that much pressure to push the piston out with the air compressor... Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BCAH at aol.com Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 12:42 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] stuck in first gear Hello all,----I have a friend with a rib case that is stuck in first gear. We'll pull the trans this weekend and have a look. I do have one question though. The last time I did a gearbox I noticed there was a grove of sorts on the inside of the selector fork. I assumed it was purposely machined that way but always wondered if it was really the result of wear.If wear caused it, is there any specification as to the minimum thickness? Also, is there any truth to the rumor that the 5 speed Datsun boxes are getting hard to come by? TIA,---Bob C in Kansas From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Jun 23 13:27:05 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 15:27:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Replacement brake lines In-Reply-To: <467D70BC.5090506@smarc.net> References: <467D70BC.5090506@smarc.net> Message-ID: <467D7409.8070908@comcast.net> Marc wrote: > Found these in my local Salvo auto parts store here in Maryland. Seems > to be the right stuff for my 73 Midget. > > Can anyone confirm this? Those are the correct lines but do watch for the pipes that need the female ends, you will have to cut off the male ends and reflare the pipe after you put the female end on. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Jun 23 13:29:46 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 15:29:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca In-Reply-To: <000301c7b5aa$f1dc1a70$d5944f50$@com> References: <000301c7b5aa$f1dc1a70$d5944f50$@com> Message-ID: <467D74AA.8000105@comcast.net> Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19374590/ > WST finally came out of the closet. Nobody else has all these gay links. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Jun 23 13:59:02 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 12:59:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Off roading in a Sprite In-Reply-To: <467D7388.5020203@comcast.net> Message-ID: <536106.14695.qm@web30509.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Frank Clarici wrote: > Diane and I decided to take a drive out in the pine > barrens today. Some story! All you needed was the Russian guy and Paulie Walnuts. Ron Soave "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain ____________________________________________________________________________________ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC From wsthompson at thicko.com Sat Jun 23 14:13:58 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 15:13:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca In-Reply-To: <467D74AA.8000105@comcast.net> References: <000301c7b5aa$f1dc1a70$d5944f50$@com> <467D74AA.8000105@comcast.net> Message-ID: <002501c7b5d3$0a1d7ca0$1e5875e0$@com> Hey Frank... Pound sand... no... wait, you already did. ;) -----Original Message----- From: Frank Clarici [mailto:spritenut at comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 2:30 PM To: Wm. Severin Thompson Cc: 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19374590/ > WST finally came out of the closet. Nobody else has all these gay links. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From thcollin at mtu.edu Sat Jun 23 14:43:36 2007 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 16:43:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Off roading in a Sprite In-Reply-To: <467D7388.5020203@comcast.net> References: <467D7388.5020203@comcast.net> Message-ID: <60324o$aspkn@email.mtu.edu> >As I'm reading Frank's long story, I'm thinking, "Is this the story >that ends by trying to explain to the Dr. how both Frank and Diane >got poison ivy "there." It's probably to early to know about the >poison ivy yet. Maybe on Monday. Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From pilotrob at webtv.net Sat Jun 23 15:14:14 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 21:14:14 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca Message-ID: "Fierce" :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pilotrob at webtv.net Sat Jun 23 15:16:00 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 21:16:00 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Off roading (and 2-wheelin') in a Sprite Message-ID: You're uneffingbeleevable. :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jun 23 15:21:18 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 15:21:18 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Off roading in a Sprite In-Reply-To: <467D7388.5020203@comcast.net> References: <467D7388.5020203@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706231421g13b14e9dn95235cc00816cbf7@mail.gmail.com> OK, Frank, here's your next project: http://www.mgcars.org.uk/wdmgcc/images/4X4%20midget.jpg I hear you can use Suzuki Samurai chassis parts but you might prefer old Ford Bronco running gear. From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jun 23 15:26:45 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 15:26:45 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Off roading in a Sprite In-Reply-To: <467D7388.5020203@comcast.net> References: <467D7388.5020203@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706231426w3ad2dc5em143a551b1e6d05b1@mail.gmail.com> Or, if you prefer: http://www.offroaders.com/readers/odd-4x4s/4x4-mini-2.jpg And, for the Mrs.: http://www.offroaders.com/readers/odd-4x4s/4x4-jag.jpg And, some other cool pics, some not for children: http://www.offroaders.com/readers/odd-4x4s.htm From bpazur at excel.net Sat Jun 23 17:53:59 2007 From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 18:53:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New Toy - No LBC Message-ID: <000a01c7b5f1$c58e1f80$0ee867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> Thanks all of you who replied to my Computer Question. I have ordered a surveillance dvr and camera. The dvr records to its hard drive, which I then transfer to my PC. It records based on motion detection from camera pixelation changes. The camera is a day-color/black-white night vision waterproof camera. I want to see all the night small animal activity at my place that includes raccoons, possums and skunks that come up on the patio to eat my outdoor feral cat food, and deer that eat our day lilies. Just fun stuff. The equiment is incredibly cheap for its advanced features as compared to even five years ago. It can also used for home security of course - that is what is was is designed for. Bud Mr. White - 1275 Street Bugeye SilverStreak - 1275 Race Sprite ************************************************************************ "The Buddha... resides as comfortably in the gears of a...transmission as he does in the petals of a flower" - Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Sat Jun 23 19:00:17 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 20:00:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca In-Reply-To: <000301c7b5aa$f1dc1a70$d5944f50$@com> References: <000301c7b5aa$f1dc1a70$d5944f50$@com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0706231800i5b98a703hfdd7a262ab7389b@mail.gmail.com> It's been said before but it takes big balls to race a secretarys's car. And all you enlarged prostate owners here on the geezer, er, spridget list should know a thing or two about giant testicals. BTW, anyone that would leave San Francisco, Key West, or even Houston for shI KAH GO has a screw loose. "OZZIE YOU MADE ME DROP MY DEEP DISH PIZZA ON THE FLOOR" - Mike North. On 6/23/07, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19374590/ > > > > (that one's just for you Larry) > > > > > > Wm. Severin Thompson > > ~iii > > > wsthompson at thicko.com > > www.thicko.com > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of > image001.png] > > -- > http://btdtracing.com > 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata > 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 > > "Here is something that helps me: I'm going to die and everyone I know is > going to die. We're all riding in a plane that is about to crash, it's > already swerving and going up and down. Are you going to sit there and > worry about "I don't have the shoes I want?" Why would you give a f*** > about anything if you're sliding towards death. It's the only thing that > keeps me going." - Ron Bennington From smarc at smarc.net Sat Jun 23 19:32:35 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 21:32:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Siezed brake adjuster Message-ID: <467DC9B3.9030008@smarc.net> Made some progress on my Midget's brake rebuild today, although it's been a battle every step of the way. Solve one problem, encounter 2 or 3 more. You know, typical LBC bs... Anyway, come to find out the adjuster wedge on the driver side is totally and completely seized. And, some previous soul chewed it all up trying to get it to move. Death by vise grip pliers probably. Whats the best course of action now? Try to drill it out? Remove and replace the entire back plate? One thought I had was to remove the back plate so I could work with it on the drill press... If I do that, do I need to drain the differential before I pull the half shaft? Or is there an easier way to resolve the problem? -- Marc From BCAH at aol.com Sat Jun 23 19:37:37 2007 From: BCAH at aol.com (BCAH at aol.com) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 21:37:37 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] halogen Message-ID: I plan to put halogen lights on the BI but I understand that they pull more amps. Will the stock light switch hold up , or should I go to relays? Bob C ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Jun 23 19:41:39 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 18:41:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0706231800i5b98a703hfdd7a262ab7389b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070624014139.48915.qmail@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- "Flash." wrote: > should know a thing or two about giant testicals. For starters, we can spell "testicles" correctly. Ron Soave "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain ____________________________________________________________________________________ 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Jun 23 19:41:52 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 21:41:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] halogen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <467DCBE0.202@comcast.net> BCAH at aol.com wrote: > I plan to put halogen lights on the BI but I understand that they pull more > amps. Will the stock light switch hold up , or should I go to relays? Bob C I have been running halogen headlamps for 15 years in most of my Sprites. I never used a relay and the stock switch holds up fine. I do understand that a relay is a huge improvment but I don't do relays. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Jun 23 19:45:30 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 21:45:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Siezed brake adjuster In-Reply-To: <467DC9B3.9030008@smarc.net> References: <467DC9B3.9030008@smarc.net> Message-ID: <467DCCBA.2090801@comcast.net> If you jack up the one side of the car a little, the diff fluid will not leak out. Only a drop or 2 from the axle. It is a lot easier to work on them on the bench. Did you try a torch on the adjuster? Most of the time, that works. The 5/16 square adjuster wrench is a big help too. But I have had a pair of backplates where no amount of heat or penetrating oil would help. Once you get it loose, neversieze it up. BTW it does not come out from the back, to remove the adjuster you have to screw it through the back plate into front (brake shoe side) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Jun 23 19:46:03 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 21:46:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca In-Reply-To: <20070624014139.48915.qmail@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20070624014139.48915.qmail@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <467DCCDB.8090206@comcast.net> Ron Soave wrote: > --- "Flash." wrote: > >>should know a thing or two about giant testicals. > > > For starters, we can spell "testicles" correctly. That takes balls! ed From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Jun 23 19:51:26 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 20:51:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca References: <20070624014139.48915.qmail@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0bd201c7b602$2e1f6df0$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Flash." ; "Spridget List" Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca --- "Flash." wrote: > should know a thing or two about giant testicals. For starters, we can spell "testicles" correctly. Ron Soave "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain ==================== Not to mention, we can also spell "secretary's". Your choice: race driving school or junior high school. Either one should help immensely. LAD From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jun 23 20:24:38 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 20:24:38 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] halogen In-Reply-To: <467DCBE0.202@comcast.net> References: <467DCBE0.202@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706231924g46e5d779q1c5638603c98ae47@mail.gmail.com> The stock switch will work fine. The Halogens don't pull that much more current. Relays are good but not necessary. Most important it make sure all connections, especially grounds, are good, clean, and tight. Cheers, Derf From smarc at smarc.net Sat Jun 23 20:28:26 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 22:28:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Siezed brake adjuster In-Reply-To: <467DCCBA.2090801@comcast.net> References: <467DC9B3.9030008@smarc.net> <467DCCBA.2090801@comcast.net> Message-ID: <467DD6CA.1010306@smarc.net> The entire car is on stands, so it's a little difficult to jack up just one side now... I haven't tried a torch, all I have is a propane one anyway. I did try a heat gun though... not quite the same, is it! I have the proper adjuster wrench, but it's useless on a chewed up adjuster... I always remove and clean the wedge and tappets, and reassemble with anti-seize. Guess I'm gonna drain the diff and remove the backplate then!!! Marc Frank Clarici wrote: > If you jack up the one side of the car a little, the diff fluid will > not leak out. Only a drop or 2 from the axle. > It is a lot easier to work on them on the bench. > Did you try a torch on the adjuster? Most of the time, that works. > The 5/16 square adjuster wrench is a big help too. > But I have had a pair of backplates where no amount of heat or > penetrating oil would help. > Once you get it loose, neversieze it up. BTW it does not come out from > the back, to remove the adjuster you have to screw it through the back > plate into front (brake shoe side) From danginah at charter.net Sat Jun 23 20:37:14 2007 From: danginah at charter.net (Dan Gillitzer) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 21:37:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] RE Brake lines Message-ID: <002601c7b608$936e2010$fae79f18@D4QZGL91> Marc It seems like the lines are high quality. You have to buy a 5 pack of them though, no matter how many you actually need. The longest line runs from the 4 way union (where the brake switch is on the right inner fender) back to where the hose attaches, on the tab back where the driveshaft exits the transmission tunnel. I'm not sure if 5 feet would be enough for that run. Would be close but I'm afraid might be short. Of course you could join them with a union if the proper type could be found. Then of course, you need to buy 5 of those 5 footers! You might be better off just buying a set for the car. I got mine from AH Spares, but I found they were made buy Automec ( http://www.automec.co.uk/ ). I bought the copper/nickel lines and was pretty happy with how they were formable to hand to match the original set. The lengths were right-on and had the correct ends. As Frank pointed out some of the ends have to be female thread, others are male. The male ends are located where the lines thread in to the master (for the clutch AND brake line), all pipes that thread in to the 4 way union, and the pipes that are strapped to the rear axle tubes, on both ends. The female threads are at the front brake hoses and where the hose connects to the line for the rear axle. If you do order a line set from Automec, make sure you ask for the clutch line if you want to replace that, as the brake line set doesn't include the clutch line. PPP might be able to get the lines for you. If not I'd deal with Automec directly, I really like these lines. If you DO buy the lines you mentioned in your post, I have a good bubble flare tool you can use if you need to modify the ends. Dan G From smarc at smarc.net Sat Jun 23 20:48:46 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 22:48:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] RE Brake lines In-Reply-To: <002601c7b608$936e2010$fae79f18@D4QZGL91> References: <002601c7b608$936e2010$fae79f18@D4QZGL91> Message-ID: <467DDB8E.1080300@smarc.net> As it turns out, I didn't need to replace the line! I raised the car up higher on the stands so I could get under there better, and was able to free the flare nut pretty easily. The line is quite solid. Also, the auto parts store sells those lines one at a time. Probably the store has to buy a five pack, but at retail you can buy just one. Appreciate the offer of the flare tool. Marc Dan Gillitzer wrote: Marc It seems like the lines are high quality. You have to buy a 5 pack of them though, no matter how many you actually need. The longest line runs from the 4 way union (where the brake switch is on the right inner fender) back to where the hose attaches, on the tab back where the driveshaft exits the transmission tunnel. I'm not sure if 5 feet would be enough for that run. Would be close but I'm afraid might be short. Of course you could join them with a union if the proper type could be found. Then of course, you need to buy 5 of those 5 footers! You might be better off just buying a set for the car. I got mine from AH Spares, but I found they were made buy Automec ( http://www.automec.co.uk/ ). I bought the copper/nickel lines and was pretty happy with how they were formable to hand to match the original set. The lengths were right-on and had the correct ends. As Frank pointed out some of the ends have to be female thread, others are male. The male ends are located where the lines thread in to the master (for the clutch AND brake line), all pipes that thread in to the 4 way union, and the pipes that are strapped to the rear axle tubes, on both ends. The female threads are at the front brake hoses and where the hose connects to the line for the rear axle. If you do order a line set from Automec, make sure you ask for the clutch line if you want to replace that, as the brake line set doesn't include the clutch line. PPP might be able to get the lines for you. If not I'd deal with Automec directly, I really like these lines. If you DO buy the lines you mentioned in your post, I have a good bubble flare tool you can use if you need to modify the ends. Dan G From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Sat Jun 23 21:14:52 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 22:14:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca In-Reply-To: <0bd201c7b602$2e1f6df0$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <20070624014139.48915.qmail@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <0bd201c7b602$2e1f6df0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0706232014s14e5433cvab3ffd3c2082976@mail.gmail.com> Thanks for the grammar lesson, geezers. Enjoy your 65 broken horses of masculinity! On 6/23/07, Larry Daniels wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Soave" > To: "Flash." ; "Spridget List" > > Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 8:41 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca > > > --- "Flash." wrote: > > should know a thing or two about giant testicals. > > For starters, we can spell "testicles" correctly. > > > > Ron Soave > > "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain > > ==================== > > Not to mention, we can also spell "secretary's". > > Your choice: race driving school or junior high school. Either one should > help immensely. > > LAD > _______________________________________________ > > > -- > http://btdtracing.com > 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata > 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 > > "Here is something that helps me: I'm going to die and everyone I know is > going to die. We're all riding in a plane that is about to crash, it's > already swerving and going up and down. Are you going to sit there and > worry about "I don't have the shoes I want?" Why would you give a f*** > about anything if you're sliding towards death. It's the only thing that > keeps me going." - Ron Bennington From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Jun 23 21:24:00 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 22:24:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone have......... (no list content) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My thanks to the many of you that responded to my request for help. I had settled on a supplier, but had been dragging ass getting the pellets ordered. They say that procrastination serves no purpose. BULLSHIT!! I drove down to Lampasass to get the motor for the Sprite. While I was waiting, we went to a pawn shop, and after asking about pellets, we were directed to a gun shop around the corner. This guy was so happy to have someone, ANYONE asking about his .20 cal pellets, he sold me 2500 of 'em for $15. I did garner some great leads for repair parts and such, but this was too good to pass up. For those that think I am cruel, and may accidentally kill some of the cats that I will be "discouraging" out of my yard. Know this, I pumped the rifle up 10 times, and it would not penetrate a plastic water bottle. This will not break the flesh on any cat, but it will make them run faster than Jesse Owens!! Thanks again to you all!! Brad On 6/16/07, Brad Fornal wrote: > an old fashioned hardware store in their town? > I just purchased an old Benjamin air rifle, .20 caliber/5.0mm. > Our local Wally World pushed all the local hardware stores out of > business, and all Wally carries is .177 and .22 > If someone would be interested in looking at their mom and pop for me, > I'd really appreciate it. > > Thanks, > Brad > > -- > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From smarc at smarc.net Sat Jun 23 21:46:27 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 23:46:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Siezed brake adjuster In-Reply-To: <467DD6CA.1010306@smarc.net> References: <467DC9B3.9030008@smarc.net> <467DCCBA.2090801@comcast.net> <467DD6CA.1010306@smarc.net> Message-ID: <467DE913.2060307@smarc.net> Well, drained the diff, and while that was trickling, I unbolted the back plate. Then I pulled the half shaft, and discovered the hub nut is all f**ked up. Apparently some yahoo used a hammer and chisel instead of a socket on it... It looks like it's got freaking shark teeth on it. Guess I can dress it with a small die grinder so the socket will fit on it... But I'm gonna need a replacement probably... Does the hub nut come off CCW or is it reverse thread? Marc Marc wrote: > The entire car is on stands, so it's a little difficult to jack up just > one side now... > > I haven't tried a torch, all I have is a propane one anyway. I did try a > heat gun though... not quite the same, is it! > > I have the proper adjuster wrench, but it's useless on a chewed up > adjuster... > > I always remove and clean the wedge and tappets, and reassemble with > anti-seize. > > Guess I'm gonna drain the diff and remove the backplate then!!! > > Marc From duncan at pondhop.com Sat Jun 23 23:39:18 2007 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 00:39:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Siezed brake adjuster In-Reply-To: <467DE913.2060307@smarc.net> References: <467DC9B3.9030008@smarc.net> <467DCCBA.2090801@comcast.net> <467DD6CA.1010306@smarc.net> <467DE913.2060307@smarc.net> Message-ID: <000f01c7b622$02e95d60$08bc1820$@com> Yes :) Depends which side you are on, Drivers side is Left handed and passenger side is right handed. Duncan -----Original Message----- From: Marc [mailto:smarc at smarc.net] Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 10:46 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Siezed brake adjuster Well, drained the diff, and while that was trickling, I unbolted the back plate. Then I pulled the half shaft, and discovered the hub nut is all f**ked up. Apparently some yahoo used a hammer and chisel instead of a socket on it... It looks like it's got freaking shark teeth on it. Guess I can dress it with a small die grinder so the socket will fit on it... But I'm gonna need a replacement probably... Does the hub nut come off CCW or is it reverse thread? Marc Marc wrote: > The entire car is on stands, so it's a little difficult to jack up just > one side now... > > I haven't tried a torch, all I have is a propane one anyway. I did try a > heat gun though... not quite the same, is it! > > I have the proper adjuster wrench, but it's useless on a chewed up > adjuster... > > I always remove and clean the wedge and tappets, and reassemble with > anti-seize. > > Guess I'm gonna drain the diff and remove the backplate then!!! > > Marc _______________________________________________ duncan at pondhop.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From hal at katemuir.com Sun Jun 24 00:53:56 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 23:53:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Siezed brake adjuster In-Reply-To: <000f01c7b622$02e95d60$08bc1820$@com> Message-ID: For a LHD vehicle. If yours is RHD, driver's side is right handed and passenger side is left handed.... Hal -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Duncan Sinclair Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 10:39 PM To: 'Marc'; 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Siezed brake adjuster Yes :) Depends which side you are on, Drivers side is Left handed and passenger side is right handed. Duncan -----Original Message----- From: Marc [mailto:smarc at smarc.net] Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 10:46 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Siezed brake adjuster Well, drained the diff, and while that was trickling, I unbolted the back plate. Then I pulled the half shaft, and discovered the hub nut is all f**ked up. Apparently some yahoo used a hammer and chisel instead of a socket on it... It looks like it's got freaking shark teeth on it. Guess I can dress it with a small die grinder so the socket will fit on it... But I'm gonna need a replacement probably... Does the hub nut come off CCW or is it reverse thread? Marc Marc wrote: > The entire car is on stands, so it's a little difficult to jack up just > one side now... > > I haven't tried a torch, all I have is a propane one anyway. I did try a > heat gun though... not quite the same, is it! > > I have the proper adjuster wrench, but it's useless on a chewed up > adjuster... > > I always remove and clean the wedge and tappets, and reassemble with > anti-seize. > > Guess I'm gonna drain the diff and remove the backplate then!!! > > Marc _______________________________________________ From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Jun 24 02:30:02 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 08:30:02 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] halogen Message-ID: While the stock BE switch will hold up just fine, you'll get a lot more light out of your halogens using relays. And of course, using relays will take the load off the switch, thus pretty much increasing it's service life as well. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Jun 24 06:15:10 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 07:15:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0706232014s14e5433cvab3ffd3c2082976@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070624014139.48915.qmail@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <0bd201c7b602$2e1f6df0$6401a8c0@Larry> <8a336b9d0706232014s14e5433cvab3ffd3c2082976@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001401c7b659$514724b0$f3d56e10$@com> Homo. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Flash. Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 10:15 PM To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca Thanks for the grammar lesson, geezers. Enjoy your 65 broken horses of masculinity! On 6/23/07, Larry Daniels wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Soave" > To: "Flash." ; "Spridget List" > > Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 8:41 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca > > > --- "Flash." wrote: > > should know a thing or two about giant testicals. > > For starters, we can spell "testicles" correctly. > > > > Ron Soave > > "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain > > ==================== > > Not to mention, we can also spell "secretary's". > > Your choice: race driving school or junior high school. Either one should > help immensely. > > LAD > __________________________________________ From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jun 24 06:28:45 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 05:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0706232014s14e5433cvab3ffd3c2082976@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <576028.22022.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- "Flash." wrote: > Thanks for the grammar lesson, geezers. Enjoy your > 65 broken horses of > masculinity! Flash, Put on your makeup, hike up your skirt, climb into that Miata and head out to Blackhawk to enjoy the taillights of my "65 broken horses" for a few laps, right Ed? Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Sun Jun 24 07:17:22 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 08:17:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca In-Reply-To: <576028.22022.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <8a336b9d0706232014s14e5433cvab3ffd3c2082976@mail.gmail.com> <576028.22022.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0706240617ld8706efs3c24255e2330b73e@mail.gmail.com> Sucks getting beatin' by a "girl": 2 25 >Ron Soave < 17 29:20.747 0.949 *** 1:27.385 6 80.334 18 251 >Ron Soave < 10 19:18.153 3 Laps *** 1:49.086 9 68.016 16 25 >Ron Soave < 14 26:51.183 40.322 *** 1:34.665 11 74.156 10 99 >Wm Severin Thompson < 1 5:55.453 17 Laps *** 1:45.692 1 66.419 5 99 >Wm Severin Thompson < 9 13:47.109 --7 Laps-- *** 1:29.601 4 78.347 4 99 >Wm Severin Thompson < 6 26:30.638 --9 Laps-- 1:31.098 6 77.060 Blake William Thompson 20 29:40.456 14.314 *** 1:26.323 Wish I had more results for you, but I've only raced a few races and as you can see from my 1'26" I don't know what I'm doing with that "slow" Miata yet. I got this funny feeling the only time I'd see any british tailights is my 2nd, 3rd, and 4th times lapping them. BTW, I see "DNS" next to a lot of british names. What's that mean? I don't think we have that indicator in the Miata group. Or maybe I was doing my best Charles Nelson Riley impression at the Beloit rest stop when that was explained. (May he rest in peace) Silly gay car. On 6/24/07, Ron Soave wrote: > --- "Flash." wrote: > > Thanks for the grammar lesson, geezers. Enjoy your > > 65 broken horses of > > masculinity! > > Flash, > > Put on your makeup, hike up your skirt, climb into > that Miata and head out to Blackhawk to enjoy the > taillights of my "65 broken horses" for a few laps, > right Ed? > > Ron > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. > http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 "Here is something that helps me: I'm going to die and everyone I know is going to die. We're all riding in a plane that is about to crash, it's already swerving and going up and down. Are you going to sit there and worry about "I don't have the shoes I want?" Why would you give a f*** about anything if you're sliding towards death. It's the only thing that keeps me going." - Ron Bennington From hobbycars at cox.net Sun Jun 24 08:02:25 2007 From: hobbycars at cox.net (Jacques Le Clainche) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 07:02:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye for sale in San diego In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0706240617ld8706efs3c24255e2330b73e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Just seen in the San Diego Union Tribune this morning: Austin Healey 1961 Bugeye Sprite Wire wheels, disc brakes, 1275 cc $8900 (760) 318-6255 Sounds interesting for a driver, depending on condition. Any lister knows that car? JLC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.6/863 - Release Date: 6/23/2007 11:08 AM From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jun 24 08:49:10 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 07:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0706240617ld8706efs3c24255e2330b73e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <151891.66433.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Lap times and racing are 2 different things. I know as a Miata driver racing to you means running into each other on pace laps, so perhaps it's best you keep your distance. For that matter, perhaps you should sashay over to the Miata list if you dislike LBCs so much... "Flash." wrote: > Sucks getting beatin' by a "girl": > > 2 25 >Ron Soave < 17 29:20.747 0.949 *** 1:27.385 > 6 80.334 > 18 251 >Ron Soave < 10 19:18.153 3 Laps *** > 1:49.086 9 68.016 > 16 25 >Ron Soave < 14 26:51.183 40.322 *** 1:34.665 > 11 74.156 > > 10 99 >Wm Severin Thompson < 1 5:55.453 17 Laps *** > 1:45.692 1 66.419 > 5 99 >Wm Severin Thompson < 9 13:47.109 --7 Laps-- > *** 1:29.601 4 78.347 > 4 99 >Wm Severin Thompson < 6 26:30.638 --9 Laps-- > 1:31.098 6 77.060 > > Blake William Thompson 20 29:40.456 14.314 > *** 1:26.323 > > Wish I had more results for you, but I've only raced > a few races and > as you can see from my 1'26" I don't know what I'm > doing with that > "slow" Miata yet. > > I got this funny feeling the only time I'd see any > british tailights > is my 2nd, 3rd, and 4th times lapping them. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ From Daniel1312 at aol.com Sun Jun 24 09:37:28 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 11:37:28 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] halogen Message-ID: I'll amost agree with Derf on this one! If the Halogen bulbs are the same wattage as the incandescents they'll pull the same wattage. Daniel1312 In a message dated 24/06/07 05:11:25 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: > The stock switch will work fine. The Halogens don't pull that much more > current. Relays are good but not necessary. Most important it make sure > all connections, especially grounds, are good, clean, and tight. > Cheers, > Derf From smarc at smarc.net Sun Jun 24 09:38:06 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 11:38:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hub nut size? Message-ID: <467E8FDE.1000501@smarc.net> What is the size of the rear hub nut? I need to find the correct socket for it! -- Marc From Daniel1312 at aol.com Sun Jun 24 09:57:14 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 11:57:14 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Hub nut size? Message-ID: A used, NOS or second-hand nut might well turn out to be a different size from the one Moss or whoever else sells you - at least this is the case in UK which I discovered after sending back several nuts to several suppliers. Are testicles known as nuts in the USA? Daniel1312 In a message dated 24/06/07 16:39:05 GMT Daylight Time, smarc at smarc.net writes: > What is the size of the rear hub nut? I need to find the correct socket > for it! > > -- > Marc From Daniel1312 at aol.com Sun Jun 24 10:01:09 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 12:01:09 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Video to DVD - LBC Content Message-ID: Hi list, Probably a decade ago someone taped or maybe copied the Sprite/Mini challange onto a video tape for me. However, UK Video isn't the same as USA video and I never got to play it. I don't have a video player but do have DVD and the DVD will play USA/Region 1 DVDs after I reprogrammed the setup menu. So, does anyone want to copy my video which they can keep and in return post me the DVD (region 2 preferred but will cope with Region 1)? Thanks Daniel1312 - UK From chris_west at juno.com Sun Jun 24 09:59:35 2007 From: chris_west at juno.com (Chris M West) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 11:59:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Halogen headlights Message-ID: <20070624.115936.3256.1.chris_west@juno.com> I have a 63 mkII that I want to upgrade the headlights on. Looking at the Moss catalog, I see they have "Crystal Clear" headlights for about $30 each, Wipac's for $107 a pair, and Hella's for about $45 each. Victoria British has "Euro Style" ones for $30 each, which look similar to the "Crystal Clear" ones. I was wondering if anyone had good or bad experiences with these, or had any other recommendations. Also, any suggestions for what kind of bulb (white, blue, etc) to put in them? Thanks, Ric ====================================================== Ric, I have sold the major brands of halgen replacement (aka E Code) lamps since 1972. That includes Cibie, Marchal and Hella. I would suggest the Hella for one important reason. Their lamps use a polished zinc reflector surface. Most if not all of the competition uses chrome plated steel. The chromed steel can (and will eventually) rust, ruining the light. Repair is by replacement. The polished zinc may lose its sheen over time but will never rust. As for bulb selection, stick with white. Most E Code lights specify H4 style replacement bulbs. I have seen these in 55/60 watt low/high beam wattage (standard) as well as 55/80. 55/100 and 80/100 watt (these latter usually marked "off road use only"). Stick with the standard wattage if you don't plan on wiring a relay into the circuit. Chris AN5L35578 From Daniel1312 at aol.com Sun Jun 24 10:03:51 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 12:03:51 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Joke - No LBC Message-ID: MarioB stopped at a localB cafe, following a day roamingB around in Mexico.B While sipping his tequila and anti-freeze, he noticed a sizzling,B scrumptious platter being served at the next table. Not only did it lookB good, the smell was wonderful.B B He asked the waiter, "What isa that you justa served?"B B The waiter replied, "Ah senor Mario, you have excellent taste! Those areB calledB bCojones de Torob they are bull's testicles from the bull fight this morning. B AB delicacy!"B B B MarioB said, "Cor a blimey mate, I wanna try a some of them."B B B The waiter replied, "I am so sorry senor Mario. There is only one servingB per day because there is only one bull fight each morning. If you comeB earlyB and place your order, we will be sure to save you this delicacy."B B B B The next morning,B Mario returned, placed his order, and that evening was served the one and only special delicacy of the day. B After a few bites, inspecting his platter, he called to the waiter and said, "TheseB are a delicious, but they are a much, a much smaller than the ones I saw a you serve a yesterday."B B B The waiter shrugged his shoulders and replied, "Si,Senor Mario.B B B B SometimesB theB bull wins.B "B B B From type79 at ix.netcom.com Sun Jun 24 10:08:50 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 12:08:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Hub nut size? Message-ID: <3774951.1182701330860.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Why do you ask? Have you been sending those back to suppliers as well? -- jay fishbein wallingford, ct 06492 http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ -----Original Message----- >From: Daniel1312 at aol.com >Sent: Jun 24, 2007 11:57 AM >To: smarc at smarc.net, spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hub nut size? > >Are testicles known as nuts in the USA? From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 24 10:09:49 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 10:09:49 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca In-Reply-To: <151891.66433.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <8a336b9d0706240617ld8706efs3c24255e2330b73e@mail.gmail.com> <151891.66433.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706240909u4d2c6192l17d547a87cf6d9bd@mail.gmail.com> "Can't we all just get along?" -Rodney King Thanks for the lap times. Food for thought. Is that Miata Spec, stock, or prepped? >From what I read and videos I see, Miatas do a lot of bumping during races. They also seem to be able to take a lot of abuse and contact and keep racing. One Mustang owner was trashing a guy's Miata on another forum. The reply was: "How many g's does your Mustang pull on the corners? ST_U" Plus, I think those cheatin dogs get 120-150 HP from those Spridget motors, depending on prep. 100 HP per liter ain't bad. Of course, there are folks getting 300-400 HP from 1.8 Miatas. The Miata is in a lot of ways what the Spridget was back in the day, economical sports car that lends itself easily to racing. They are good cars and there is definitely the British roadster feel built into them. That is why some listers own both Miatas and Spridgets. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 24 10:11:19 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 10:11:19 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Hub nut size? In-Reply-To: <467E8FDE.1000501@smarc.net> References: <467E8FDE.1000501@smarc.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706240911n273535eaj57ebd022995bbe0@mail.gmail.com> 1 5/16 IIRC. On 6/24/07, Marc wrote: > > What is the size of the rear hub nut? I need to find the correct socket > for it! From Daniel1312 at aol.com Sun Jun 24 10:14:05 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 12:14:05 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca Message-ID: But that's not normally aspirated. In a message dated 24/06/07 17:10:38 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: > Of course, there are folks > getting 300-400 HP from 1.8 Miatas. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 24 10:15:00 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 10:15:00 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Hub nut size? In-Reply-To: <467E8FDE.1000501@smarc.net> References: <467E8FDE.1000501@smarc.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706240915l2809f338v25b4396f4a72a734@mail.gmail.com> You can use a pair of channel lock pliers to get the nut off. The trick is to put the channel in the pliers over one of the studs. You only get a small arc of movement, but it is enough to loosen the nut. You can also loosen it with a hammer and drift. Don't forget to bend the tab washer back. DISCLAIMER: I know that pliers aren't the best tool for this job. BUT, finding and buying a 1-5/16(IIRC) socket isn't easy or cheap. From pythias at pacifier.com Sun Jun 24 10:18:18 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 09:18:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Halogen headlights In-Reply-To: <20070624.115936.3256.1.chris_west@juno.com> References: <20070624.115936.3256.1.chris_west@juno.com> Message-ID: <371234313.20070624091818@pacifier.com> Hello Chris, i don't have direct experience with Sprites in this, BUT..... i had a VW rabbit which also had the standard 7" round sealed beam headlights... you could put ANY 7" round shell, (PIA, Hella, etc,) in the bucket and get ANY halogen lamp (i can't remember wattages for sure but i think 40/80 [high beam/low beam] or 80/100.. whatever) as long as you don't get bulbs that have too much wattage for the size wire you don't need a relay or anything else.. the lens should only affect the lighting PATTERN, and bulb your brightness/wattage... -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 24 10:20:19 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 10:20:19 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706240920h4497b5c7i770be88be29262c8@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Nope, not NA but I think there is a guy getting something like 600 HP from a turbo setup. Miata motors come from the factory in a form that lends itself easily to forced inductions. In other words you can take a stock Miata and bolt on a turbo kit and get gobs of HP without having to buy all sorts of engine upgrades. The clutch is usually the first weak link when you start boosting. I'm not sure about the newer Miatas, but the original 1.6s and 1.8s up to 2000 or so are just begging for boost. Not too many people build fast naturally aspirated Miatas because the most economical path to big HP is forced induction. Cheers, Derf On 6/24/07, Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: > > But that's not normally aspirated. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 24 10:23:12 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 10:23:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone have......... (no list content) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706240923r48c2ec5br54c757c406a1a24e@mail.gmail.com> Hi, If you pumped 10 times and didn't penetrate a water bottle then your seals are bad. 3 pumps should penetrate a water bottle at 10 yards, in one side and out the other. Someone probably used WD-40 on the seals and now they are weak. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 24 10:24:39 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 10:24:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] halogen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706240924g2a91c4e0t2ce0b1eb7dcb2301@mail.gmail.com> On 6/24/07, Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: > > I'll amost agree with Derf on this one! > > If the Halogen bulbs are the same wattage as the incandescents they'll > pull the same wattage. > > Daniel1312 > And put out "better" light. You can agree with me. I am correct on occasion. But, keep me honest and on my toes, will you? From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 24 10:26:41 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 10:26:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] halogen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706240926i2beb1878oc1b24ebd6e19cea1@mail.gmail.com> If you "get a lot more light out of your halogens using relays" then your have a problem with the harness. The only thing that would cause you to get less would be resistance in the wiring which should be close to nil if the wiring is good. Cheers, Derf From Daniel1312 at aol.com Sun Jun 24 10:55:38 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 12:55:38 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] halogen Message-ID: I'm agreeing again! In a message dated 24/06/07 17:24:49 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: > On 6/24/07, Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: > >> I'll amost agree with Derf on this one! >> >> If the Halogen bulbs are the same wattage as the incandescents they'll pull >> the same wattage. >> >> Daniel1312 >> >> > > > And put out "better" light. > > You can agree with me. From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Jun 24 11:50:19 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 12:50:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca In-Reply-To: <151891.66433.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <8a336b9d0706240617ld8706efs3c24255e2330b73e@mail.gmail.com> <151891.66433.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002801c7b688$23178560$69469020$@com> When you consider the 40 year difference in technology, and automotive development, the gay Jap car should be turning 50 second laps. -----Original Message----- From: Ron Soave [mailto:soavero at yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 9:49 AM To: Flash.; Spridget List Cc: Ron Soave; Wm. Severin Thompson Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca Lap times and racing are 2 different things. I know as a Miata driver racing to you means running into each other on pace laps, so perhaps it's best you keep your distance. For that matter, perhaps you should sashay over to the Miata list if you dislike LBCs so much... "Flash." wrote: > Sucks getting beatin' by a "girl": > > 2 25 >Ron Soave < 17 29:20.747 0.949 *** 1:27.385 > 6 80.334 > 18 251 >Ron Soave < 10 19:18.153 3 Laps *** > 1:49.086 9 68.016 > 16 25 >Ron Soave < 14 26:51.183 40.322 *** 1:34.665 > 11 74.156 > > 10 99 >Wm Severin Thompson < 1 5:55.453 17 Laps *** > 1:45.692 1 66.419 > 5 99 >Wm Severin Thompson < 9 13:47.109 --7 Laps-- > *** 1:29.601 4 78.347 > 4 99 >Wm Severin Thompson < 6 26:30.638 --9 Laps-- > 1:31.098 6 77.060 > > Blake William Thompson 20 29:40.456 14.314 > *** 1:26.323 > > Wish I had more results for you, but I've only raced > a few races and > as you can see from my 1'26" I don't know what I'm > doing with that > "slow" Miata yet. > > I got this funny feeling the only time I'd see any > british tailights > is my 2nd, 3rd, and 4th times lapping them. ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Sun Jun 24 11:55:07 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 12:55:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca In-Reply-To: <002801c7b688$23178560$69469020$@com> References: <8a336b9d0706240617ld8706efs3c24255e2330b73e@mail.gmail.com> <151891.66433.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <002801c7b688$23178560$69469020$@com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0706241055t2a068f9an61bc9fa187408bea@mail.gmail.com> You have access to the same 40 years of development that I do. Now you're just making excuses. You guys talked it up now stand behind it. On 6/24/07, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > When you consider the 40 year difference in technology, and automotive > development, the gay Jap car should be turning 50 second laps. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ron Soave [mailto:soavero at yahoo.com] > Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 9:49 AM > To: Flash.; Spridget List > Cc: Ron Soave; Wm. Severin Thompson > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca > > > Lap times and racing are 2 different things. I know as > a Miata driver racing to you means running into each > other on pace laps, so perhaps it's best you keep your > distance. For that matter, perhaps you should sashay > over to the Miata list if you dislike LBCs so much... > > "Flash." wrote: > > > Sucks getting beatin' by a "girl": > > > > 2 25 >Ron Soave < 17 29:20.747 0.949 *** 1:27.385 > > 6 80.334 > > 18 251 >Ron Soave < 10 19:18.153 3 Laps *** > > 1:49.086 9 68.016 > > 16 25 >Ron Soave < 14 26:51.183 40.322 *** 1:34.665 > > 11 74.156 > > > > 10 99 >Wm Severin Thompson < 1 5:55.453 17 Laps *** > > 1:45.692 1 66.419 > > 5 99 >Wm Severin Thompson < 9 13:47.109 --7 Laps-- > > *** 1:29.601 4 78.347 > > 4 99 >Wm Severin Thompson < 6 26:30.638 --9 Laps-- > > 1:31.098 6 77.060 > > > > Blake William Thompson 20 29:40.456 14.314 > > *** 1:26.323 > > > > Wish I had more results for you, but I've only raced > > a few races and > > as you can see from my 1'26" I don't know what I'm > > doing with that > > "slow" Miata yet. > > > > I got this funny feeling the only time I'd see any > > british tailights > > is my 2nd, 3rd, and 4th times lapping them. > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > ________ > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ > > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 "Here is something that helps me: I'm going to die and everyone I know is going to die. We're all riding in a plane that is about to crash, it's already swerving and going up and down. Are you going to sit there and worry about "I don't have the shoes I want?" Why would you give a f*** about anything if you're sliding towards death. It's the only thing that keeps me going." - Ron Bennington From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jun 24 11:55:24 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 10:55:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706240909u4d2c6192l17d547a87cf6d9bd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070624175524.19082.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- derf wrote: > "Can't we all just get along?" We're just funnin'. Flash was a fixture at the VSCDA races before he went to the dark side. Now...I did look at the entire races he posted (my last one, "Small Bore Gran Prix" vs. Miata) - the Miata's best lap was a second faster, but the average lap for the race was only 0.2 faster. So...with a 5 speed, distributor-less ignition, 70 or so more hp, and 4 wheel disc brakes, the Miata wins by 0.2 seconds. Congratulations ;-) I ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/norton/index.php From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Sun Jun 24 11:56:27 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 12:56:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca In-Reply-To: <20070624175524.19082.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <5f00d9910706240909u4d2c6192l17d547a87cf6d9bd@mail.gmail.com> <20070624175524.19082.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0706241056y4742df5ao3044cf0d82fd74d8@mail.gmail.com> //Continues with the excuses. I think my cars got 1000lbs on you too, ok, maybe 900 on severin's *cough* On 6/24/07, Ron Soave wrote: > > --- derf wrote: > > > "Can't we all just get along?" > > We're just funnin'. Flash was a fixture at the VSCDA > races before he went to the dark side. > > Now...I did look at the entire races he posted (my > last one, "Small Bore Gran Prix" vs. Miata) - the > Miata's best lap was a second faster, but the average > lap for the race was only 0.2 faster. So...with a 5 > speed, distributor-less ignition, 70 or so more hp, > and 4 wheel disc brakes, the Miata wins by 0.2 > seconds. Congratulations ;-) > > I > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. > http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/norton/index.php > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 "Here is something that helps me: I'm going to die and everyone I know is going to die. We're all riding in a plane that is about to crash, it's already swerving and going up and down. Are you going to sit there and worry about "I don't have the shoes I want?" Why would you give a f*** about anything if you're sliding towards death. It's the only thing that keeps me going." - Ron Bennington From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jun 24 11:57:16 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 10:57:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0706241055t2a068f9an61bc9fa187408bea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070624175716.47134.qmail@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- "Flash." wrote: > You have access to the same 40 years of development > that I do. Now > you're just making excuses. You guys talked it up > now stand behind > it. The SCCA FP guys can use more of that technology, and they turn high teens at BHF. Hell, Dr. J. turns 1:21s. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Jun 24 11:59:17 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 12:59:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0706241055t2a068f9an61bc9fa187408bea@mail.gmail.com> References: <8a336b9d0706240617ld8706efs3c24255e2330b73e@mail.gmail.com> <151891.66433.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <002801c7b688$23178560$69469020$@com> <8a336b9d0706241055t2a068f9an61bc9fa187408bea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002901c7b689$6912c100$3b384300$@com> Whatcha talkin' 'bout Sparky? No fuel injected overhead cam modern metallurgy, etc., here. No excuses, no need to make excuses. What's the power to weight ratio? How many cc's is yours? -----Original Message----- From: Flash. [mailto:thefirebuilds at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 12:55 PM To: Wm. Severin Thompson Cc: Ron Soave; Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca You have access to the same 40 years of development that I do. Now you're just making excuses. You guys talked it up now stand behind it. On 6/24/07, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > When you consider the 40 year difference in technology, and automotive > development, the gay Jap car should be turning 50 second laps. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ron Soave [mailto:soavero at yahoo.com] > Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 9:49 AM > To: Flash.; Spridget List > Cc: Ron Soave; Wm. Severin Thompson > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca > > > Lap times and racing are 2 different things. I know as > a Miata driver racing to you means running into each > other on pace laps, so perhaps it's best you keep your > distance. For that matter, perhaps you should sashay > over to the Miata list if you dislike LBCs so much... > > "Flash." wrote: > > > Sucks getting beatin' by a "girl": > > > > 2 25 >Ron Soave < 17 29:20.747 0.949 *** 1:27.385 > > 6 80.334 > > 18 251 >Ron Soave < 10 19:18.153 3 Laps *** > > 1:49.086 9 68.016 > > 16 25 >Ron Soave < 14 26:51.183 40.322 *** 1:34.665 > > 11 74.156 > > > > 10 99 >Wm Severin Thompson < 1 5:55.453 17 Laps *** > > 1:45.692 1 66.419 > > 5 99 >Wm Severin Thompson < 9 13:47.109 --7 Laps-- > > *** 1:29.601 4 78.347 > > 4 99 >Wm Severin Thompson < 6 26:30.638 --9 Laps-- > > 1:31.098 6 77.060 > > > > Blake William Thompson 20 29:40.456 14.314 > > *** 1:26.323 > > > > Wish I had more results for you, but I've only raced > > a few races and > > as you can see from my 1'26" I don't know what I'm > > doing with that > > "slow" Miata yet. > > > > I got this funny feeling the only time I'd see any > > british tailights > > is my 2nd, 3rd, and 4th times lapping them. From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Sun Jun 24 12:06:07 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:06:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca In-Reply-To: <002901c7b689$6912c100$3b384300$@com> References: <8a336b9d0706240617ld8706efs3c24255e2330b73e@mail.gmail.com> <151891.66433.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <002801c7b688$23178560$69469020$@com> <8a336b9d0706241055t2a068f9an61bc9fa187408bea@mail.gmail.com> <002901c7b689$6912c100$3b384300$@com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0706241106u5abf4d7ahfb070ae9d410a2f@mail.gmail.com> Seems like if you go back in the thread the threat was I'd come out and get my ass handed to me by grammar-correcting interweb nazis. Then I laid down a few numbers from some respected memebers of this list, against my own hack numbers and suddenly the bag full of "old car, crap tech, not enough power" bla bla bla. We both knew that going in, that's how we got down this path. I'm sure Lieb even has a multisyllabic word for it, but all I can come up with is "sour grapes." On 6/24/07, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > Whatcha talkin' 'bout Sparky? No fuel injected overhead cam modern > metallurgy, etc., here. No excuses, no need to make excuses. What's the > power to weight ratio? How many cc's is yours? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Flash. [mailto:thefirebuilds at gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 12:55 PM > To: Wm. Severin Thompson > Cc: Ron Soave; Spridget List > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca > > You have access to the same 40 years of development that I do. Now > you're just making excuses. You guys talked it up now stand behind > it. > > On 6/24/07, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > > When you consider the 40 year difference in technology, and automotive > > development, the gay Jap car should be turning 50 second laps. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ron Soave [mailto:soavero at yahoo.com] > > Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 9:49 AM > > To: Flash.; Spridget List > > Cc: Ron Soave; Wm. Severin Thompson > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca > > > > > > Lap times and racing are 2 different things. I know as > > a Miata driver racing to you means running into each > > other on pace laps, so perhaps it's best you keep your > > distance. For that matter, perhaps you should sashay > > over to the Miata list if you dislike LBCs so much... > > > > "Flash." wrote: > > > > > Sucks getting beatin' by a "girl": > > > > > > 2 25 >Ron Soave < 17 29:20.747 0.949 *** 1:27.385 > > > 6 80.334 > > > 18 251 >Ron Soave < 10 19:18.153 3 Laps *** > > > 1:49.086 9 68.016 > > > 16 25 >Ron Soave < 14 26:51.183 40.322 *** 1:34.665 > > > 11 74.156 > > > > > > 10 99 >Wm Severin Thompson < 1 5:55.453 17 Laps *** > > > 1:45.692 1 66.419 > > > 5 99 >Wm Severin Thompson < 9 13:47.109 --7 Laps-- > > > *** 1:29.601 4 78.347 > > > 4 99 >Wm Severin Thompson < 6 26:30.638 --9 Laps-- > > > 1:31.098 6 77.060 > > > > > > Blake William Thompson 20 29:40.456 14.314 > > > *** 1:26.323 > > > > > > Wish I had more results for you, but I've only raced > > > a few races and > > > as you can see from my 1'26" I don't know what I'm > > > doing with that > > > "slow" Miata yet. > > > > > > I got this funny feeling the only time I'd see any > > > british tailights > > > is my 2nd, 3rd, and 4th times lapping them. > > > > > > > > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 "Here is something that helps me: I'm going to die and everyone I know is going to die. We're all riding in a plane that is about to crash, it's already swerving and going up and down. Are you going to sit there and worry about "I don't have the shoes I want?" Why would you give a f*** about anything if you're sliding towards death. It's the only thing that keeps me going." - Ron Bennington From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Sun Jun 24 12:06:44 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:06:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca In-Reply-To: <20070624175716.47134.qmail@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <8a336b9d0706241055t2a068f9an61bc9fa187408bea@mail.gmail.com> <20070624175716.47134.qmail@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0706241106x27b27b61l19a67e6648f90321@mail.gmail.com> and of course the same can be said for the Miata guys in Prod, that wasn't where your arguments orginated. On 6/24/07, Ron Soave wrote: > > --- "Flash." wrote: > > > You have access to the same 40 years of development > > that I do. Now > > you're just making excuses. You guys talked it up > > now stand behind > > it. > > The SCCA FP guys can use more of that technology, and > they turn high teens at BHF. Hell, Dr. J. turns 1:21s. > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Got a little couch potato? > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 "Here is something that helps me: I'm going to die and everyone I know is going to die. We're all riding in a plane that is about to crash, it's already swerving and going up and down. Are you going to sit there and worry about "I don't have the shoes I want?" Why would you give a f*** about anything if you're sliding towards death. It's the only thing that keeps me going." - Ron Bennington From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Sun Jun 24 12:08:37 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:08:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca In-Reply-To: <151891.66433.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <8a336b9d0706240617ld8706efs3c24255e2330b73e@mail.gmail.com> <151891.66433.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0706241108x2966789arb18598ff1bef2040@mail.gmail.com> I didn't post this earlier because I figured I was irritating the other listers but: If the track only had 6 running cars on it *cough cough* it would certainly be much harder to have contact. and fwiw, my car has no damage metal, but I do have pictures of your bonnet filled with gravel :) On 6/24/07, Ron Soave wrote: > > Lap times and racing are 2 different things. I know as > a Miata driver racing to you means running into each > other on pace laps, so perhaps it's best you keep your > distance. For that matter, perhaps you should sashay > over to the Miata list if you dislike LBCs so much... > > "Flash." wrote: > > > Sucks getting beatin' by a "girl": > > > > 2 25 >Ron Soave < 17 29:20.747 0.949 *** 1:27.385 > > 6 80.334 > > 18 251 >Ron Soave < 10 19:18.153 3 Laps *** > > 1:49.086 9 68.016 > > 16 25 >Ron Soave < 14 26:51.183 40.322 *** 1:34.665 > > 11 74.156 > > > > 10 99 >Wm Severin Thompson < 1 5:55.453 17 Laps *** > > 1:45.692 1 66.419 > > 5 99 >Wm Severin Thompson < 9 13:47.109 --7 Laps-- > > *** 1:29.601 4 78.347 > > 4 99 >Wm Severin Thompson < 6 26:30.638 --9 Laps-- > > 1:31.098 6 77.060 > > > > Blake William Thompson 20 29:40.456 14.314 > > *** 1:26.323 > > > > Wish I had more results for you, but I've only raced > > a few races and > > as you can see from my 1'26" I don't know what I'm > > doing with that > > "slow" Miata yet. > > > > I got this funny feeling the only time I'd see any > > british tailights > > is my 2nd, 3rd, and 4th times lapping them. > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 "Here is something that helps me: I'm going to die and everyone I know is going to die. We're all riding in a plane that is about to crash, it's already swerving and going up and down. Are you going to sit there and worry about "I don't have the shoes I want?" Why would you give a f*** about anything if you're sliding towards death. It's the only thing that keeps me going." - Ron Bennington From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sun Jun 24 12:14:15 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:14:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0706241108x2966789arb18598ff1bef2040@mail.gmail.com> References: <8a336b9d0706240617ld8706efs3c24255e2330b73e@mail.gmail.com> <151891.66433.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <8a336b9d0706241108x2966789arb18598ff1bef2040@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0CD87A58-4820-4107-8CDB-9D4462879622@comcast.net> umm.. you guys do realize that racers lying.. uhh.. discussing races doesn't work well unless you have a few beers and at least a few empties right? Lester .. rookies.. wanna hear some real stories.. talk to Pro-Rally folks! ;-) On Jun 24, 2007, at 1:08 PM, Flash. wrote: > I didn't post this earlier because I figured I was irritating the > other listers but: > > If the track only had 6 running cars on it *cough cough* it would > certainly be much harder to have contact. > > and fwiw, my car has no damage metal, but I do have pictures of your > bonnet filled with gravel :) > > On 6/24/07, Ron Soave wrote: >> >> Lap times and racing are 2 different things. I know as >> a Miata driver racing to you means running into each >> other on pace laps, so perhaps it's best you keep your >> distance. For that matter, perhaps you should sashay >> over to the Miata list if you dislike LBCs so much... >> >> "Flash." wrote: From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jun 24 12:18:39 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 11:18:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0706241108x2966789arb18598ff1bef2040@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <376448.39715.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- "Flash." wrote: > I didn't post this earlier because I figured I was > irritating the > other listers but: No, just me. Strip your pallid hide naked, douse yourself in clue musk, and dance in a field of horny clues during the height of clue mating season. Then, and only then, do you have a chance to get one, and we can continue this discussion. Ron ___________________________________________________________________________________ You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_html.html From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Jun 24 12:19:29 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:19:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0706241108x2966789arb18598ff1bef2040@mail.gmail.com> References: <8a336b9d0706240617ld8706efs3c24255e2330b73e@mail.gmail.com> <151891.66433.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <8a336b9d0706241108x2966789arb18598ff1bef2040@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002a01c7b68c$367173b0$a3545b10$@com> Dunno whatcha mean... perhaps you're referring to that crashfest known as Midwest Council's Vintage Historic? I'm usually on the grid at Blackhawk with between 25 to 40+ (maximum) cars at Blackhawk. I've been on the grid at Road America with 70 cars. Council guys don't need brakes... they just punt enough fenders going into a corner to slow each other down. My best time, with a 948 at Blackhawk, in vintage legal trim is 1:29 and change. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Flash. Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 1:09 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca I didn't post this earlier because I figured I was irritating the other listers but: If the track only had 6 running cars on it *cough cough* it would certainly be much harder to have contact. and fwiw, my car has no damage metal, but I do have pictures of your bonnet filled with gravel :) On 6/24/07, Ron Soave wrote: > > Lap times and racing are 2 different things. I know as > a Miata driver racing to you means running into each > other on pace laps, so perhaps it's best you keep your > distance. For that matter, perhaps you should sashay > over to the Miata list if you dislike LBCs so much... > > "Flash." wrote: > > > Sucks getting beatin' by a "girl": > > > > 2 25 >Ron Soave < 17 29:20.747 0.949 *** 1:27.385 > > 6 80.334 > > 18 251 >Ron Soave < 10 19:18.153 3 Laps *** > > 1:49.086 9 68.016 > > 16 25 >Ron Soave < 14 26:51.183 40.322 *** 1:34.665 > > 11 74.156 > > > > 10 99 >Wm Severin Thompson < 1 5:55.453 17 Laps *** > > 1:45.692 1 66.419 > > 5 99 >Wm Severin Thompson < 9 13:47.109 --7 Laps-- > > *** 1:29.601 4 78.347 > > 4 99 >Wm Severin Thompson < 6 26:30.638 --9 Laps-- > > 1:31.098 6 77.060 > > > > Blake William Thompson 20 29:40.456 14.314 > > *** 1:26.323 > > > > Wish I had more results for you, but I've only raced > > a few races and > > as you can see from my 1'26" I don't know what I'm > > doing with that > > "slow" Miata yet. > > > > I got this funny feeling the only time I'd see any > > british tailights > > is my 2nd, 3rd, and 4th times lapping them. > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Jun 24 12:32:46 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:32:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spec Miata Message-ID: <003301c7b68e$112f6b00$338e4100$@com> "Spec Miata. 20 million homos can't be wrong". Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Jun 24 12:34:14 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:34:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca Message-ID: <003901c7b68e$46db7ff0$d4927fd0$@com> Dunno whatcha mean... perhaps you're referring to that crashfest known as Midwest Council's Vintage Historic? I'm usually on the grid at Blackhawk with between 25 to 40+ (maximum) cars at Blackhawk. I've been on the grid at Road America with 70 cars. Council guys don't need brakes... they just punt enough fenders going into a corner to slow each other down. My best time, with a 948 at Blackhawk, in vintage legal trim is 1:29 and change. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Flash. Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 1:09 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Miata owners mecca I didn't post this earlier because I figured I was irritating the other listers but: If the track only had 6 running cars on it *cough cough* it would certainly be much harder to have contact. and fwiw, my car has no damage metal, but I do have pictures of your bonnet filled with gravel :) On 6/24/07, Ron Soave wrote: > > Lap times and racing are 2 different things. I know as > a Miata driver racing to you means running into each > other on pace laps, so perhaps it's best you keep your > distance. For that matter, perhaps you should sashay > over to the Miata list if you dislike LBCs so much... > > "Flash." wrote: > > > Sucks getting beatin' by a "girl": > > > > 2 25 >Ron Soave < 17 29:20.747 0.949 *** 1:27.385 > > 6 80.334 > > 18 251 >Ron Soave < 10 19:18.153 3 Laps *** > > 1:49.086 9 68.016 > > 16 25 >Ron Soave < 14 26:51.183 40.322 *** 1:34.665 > > 11 74.156 > > > > 10 99 >Wm Severin Thompson < 1 5:55.453 17 Laps *** > > 1:45.692 1 66.419 > > 5 99 >Wm Severin Thompson < 9 13:47.109 --7 Laps-- > > *** 1:29.601 4 78.347 > > 4 99 >Wm Severin Thompson < 6 26:30.638 --9 Laps-- > > 1:31.098 6 77.060 > > > > Blake William Thompson 20 29:40.456 14.314 > > *** 1:26.323 > > > > Wish I had more results for you, but I've only raced > > a few races and > > as you can see from my 1'26" I don't know what I'm > > doing with that > > "slow" Miata yet. > > > > I got this funny feeling the only time I'd see any > > british tailights > > is my 2nd, 3rd, and 4th times lapping them. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 24 12:36:20 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 12:36:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] halogen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706241136i2bfd36ber2f93613f258545dd@mail.gmail.com> Oh, no, not common ground. A 55W bulb is a 55W bulb. At 12 volts, that is 4.6 Amps current, per. 9.6Amps isn't a problem for good wiring in the 14-16 gauge range, for short runs in a Spridget. But, 40 year old wiring can be deteriorated and have higher resistance to current flow. A relay effectively shortens the run of the high current carrying wires to just a few feet. Halogen bulbs have better light output at the same wattage as regular sealed beams. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 24 12:39:45 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 12:39:45 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Spec Miata In-Reply-To: <003301c7b68e$112f6b00$338e4100$@com> References: <003301c7b68e$112f6b00$338e4100$@com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706241139geb49391sd52cb7f2315ed2c4@mail.gmail.com> Somebody has a "homo" fixation. I am definitely a homo sapiens. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Jun 24 13:21:12 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 14:21:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] halogen References: Message-ID: <0fc301c7b694$d453df70$0401a8c0@midget> > I'll amost agree with Derf on this one! > > If the Halogen bulbs are the same wattage as the incandescents they'll > pull > the same wattage. However, most of us are looking for higher-wattage halogens when we do this. Also bear in mind that these switches are 25 to 50 years old already and the replacement ones won't even pretend to replicate that feat. Thus, for me, it was an easy decision to install relays (like Lucas should have done in the first place!) simply in the interest of extending the fife-expectancy of my original switches. Ever see a comment on this list about the quality of replacement Bugeye switches??? I have. David Lieb From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jun 24 15:03:26 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 14:03:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Hub nut size? In-Reply-To: <467E8FDE.1000501@smarc.net> Message-ID: <416631.76493.qm@web30515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Marc wrote: > What is the size of the rear hub nut? 1 7/8". Ron Soave "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain ____________________________________________________________________________________ TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 24 16:52:42 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 16:52:42 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Rocker Cover Message-ID: <5f00d9910706241552m5bfd20bcvd67b57288c468c6c@mail.gmail.com> NFI: http://cgi.ebay.com/Alloy-finned-rocker-cover-A-series-Mini-Sprite-Midget_W0QQitemZ250135978063 Cheers, Derf From b-evans at earthlink.net Sun Jun 24 17:57:46 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 16:57:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] My !@#$%^&*()!@#$%^& computer Message-ID: <380-220076024235746703@earthlink.net> After I got home from England, I found my computer was in a state of total and complete disaster. Before I left, I had upgraded my Netscape browser from 7.2 to 8.1, but I was not pleased with the either the browser function, or the e-mail. The new one was trying to force me to use AOL That was also crappy, but I am stuck with it for the time being. Anyway, for some reason, I was simply not receiving return e-mail from many people I had expected it. Also, I have not been receiving mail from some of the Sprite Internet lists I am on. What I have just found was that about 200 e-mail message had gone in my old Netscape 7.2 program (several of which had been duplicated in the new Earthlink e-mail. Even worse, I also found in that old Netscape 7.2 copies of a lot of e-mail that I had sent out. These copies had not been sent out from that software, but from the new software. So, I wonder, did any of it reach those for whom I had intended it. And, if I have not responded to e-mail you sent to me, try again. I would do a Clarici with the bloody computer, but it wasn't made in China. It was made right here in Orange County, California Buster Evans From cciaffone at verizon.net Sun Jun 24 18:21:12 2007 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 20:21:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] My !@#$%^&*()!@#$%^& computer In-Reply-To: <380-220076024235746703@earthlink.net> References: <380-220076024235746703@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <467F0A78.1080002@verizon.net> Hey, Netscape 8 does not do news nor mail. Wotcher want to download and install is Seamonkey. It's a Netscape follow-on that does mail, news, and web. Go here: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/ In the upper-right corner is a link to download the install files for Seamonkey 1.1.2. The old Netscape 7 series is outdated and offers no protection from newer problems. chuck From b-evans at earthlink.net Sun Jun 24 18:21:16 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:21:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] BusterCluster article update Message-ID: <380-22007612502116687@earthlink.net> I understand that Theo Gillam, the writer for Practical Classics who is preparing the BusterCluster article, has written to all of those who participated in the BusterCluster. He is seeking a mug shot from everyone for use in the article. I understand they plan to have a map of the U.S. with a mug shot showing where people came from. And he is seeking some information on how each may have assisted in the project. I hope that each of you will help him by furnishing a photo and the information, for the BusterCluster was really about all of you and the "Sprite Spirit" that brought you together for one brief moment in time. These are the participants that I have given to Theo. If I have made any mistake, please let me know immediately! Paul Asgeirsson pasgeirsson at att.net Spencer Baker spencerbaker at earthlink.net Jim Bauder jimbpps at cox.net Glen Byrns grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Peter Caldwell peter at nosimport.com Frank Clarici Spritenut at comcast.net Al Clemens AlClemens2 at aol.com Hal Faulkner hal at katemuir.com Jay Fishbein type79 at ix.netcom.com Robert D. Gardner rdgard at cox.net Robert Houston RBHouston at aol.com Jim Johnson bmwwxman at gmail.com Mike MacLean rrengineer at dslextreme.com Larry Miller millerls at ado13.com Jerry Mock Jerry.Mock at toro.com Vern Olson vern at srviwet.com Jon Paschke jpaschke at bak.rr.com Warren Pierce wdp389 at pacbell.net Mike Rivers beatlemikey at yahoo.com Jim Rogers jarplanner at cox.net Ron Soave soavero at yahoo.com Bob Soave kestrel2 at optonline.net Vigil uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com From b-evans at earthlink.net Sun Jun 24 18:26:16 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:26:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] My !@#$%^&*()!@#$%^& computer Message-ID: <380-22007612502616625@earthlink.net> > From: chuck Hey, Netscape 8 does not do news nor mail. Wotcher want to download and install is Seamonkey. It's a Netscape follow-on that does mail, news, and web. Go here: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/ Thank you sir!!!! At this point, I will do anything. Why, I would even switch to an Osborne and one of those ancient programs on 5" floppy disks if it would work. Buste From b-evans at earthlink.net Sun Jun 24 18:41:35 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:41:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Info needed for BusterCluster article Message-ID: <380-22007612504135500@earthlink.net> Theo Gillam posed a question to me relating the BusterCluster article for Practical Classics, and I am really not the one to give an unbiased answer. - What's the car's value now it's restored? Let's face it. I have never given a thought to selling it since the day I drove it off the showroom floor (well, lot). And I have no intention of ever selling it, so how would I know. So, what do YOU think is a proper value of the car on which you worked? If you would all e-mail me your views, I would appreciate it. (I already asked Frank, and he said $500. Yeah, sure. That is all he would pay for ANY car.) Buster From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jun 24 18:47:21 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:47:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Info needed for BusterCluster article In-Reply-To: <380-22007612504135500@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20070625004721.84230.qmail@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Ignoring the sentimental value (and how can you??) it's a 90th percentile car - maybe 10% of what you see out there is better. Drive that car out to the Brain Redman classic next month at Road America, put a "FS - $18,000" sign on it, and it'll go. --- Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > Theo Gillam posed a question to me relating the > BusterCluster article for Practical Classics, and I > am really not the one to give an unbiased answer. > - What's the car's value now it's restored? > Let's face it. I have never given a thought to > selling it since the day I drove it off the showroom > floor (well, lot). And I have no intention of ever > selling it, so how would I know. So, what do YOU > think is a proper value of the car on which you > worked? > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sun Jun 24 18:49:59 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:49:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Info needed for BusterCluster article In-Reply-To: <380-22007612504135500@earthlink.net> References: <380-22007612504135500@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <2ffeca8129da77fcea79664a.20070624174959.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> I would say in the range of $8-10,000. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Robert Bruce Evans > - What's the car's value now it's restored? From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jun 24 18:52:24 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:52:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Info needed for BusterCluster article In-Reply-To: <2ffeca8129da77fcea79664a.20070624174959.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <39074.98101.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The NOS air in the spare tire is worth $5K alone. --- rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: > I would say in the range of $8-10,000. > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jun 24 18:56:49 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:56:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Info needed for BusterCluster article In-Reply-To: <39074.98101.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <945667.23074.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> OK, $18K is a little high, but it's twice as nice as this one now that the motor is rebuilt: Ebay item number: 230142920286 --- Ron Soave wrote: > The NOS air in the spare tire is worth $5K alone. > > --- rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: > > > I would say in the range of $8-10,000. > > Mike MacLean > > 60 Sprite > > 56 BN2 > ____________________________________________________________________________________Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ From b-evans at earthlink.net Sun Jun 24 18:59:58 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:59:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: Info needed for BusterCluster article Message-ID: <380-22007612505958546@earthlink.net> Ron Soave wrote: The NOS air in the spare tire is worth $5K alone. --- rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: > I would say in the range of $8-10,000. The spare tire may go with the car, but the NOS air? NEVER!!! I will keep that forever, and forever!!! Where else in America could you find that pure, unadulterated air of Olde England! Buster From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jun 24 19:35:20 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 21:35:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] halogen In-Reply-To: <0fc301c7b694$d453df70$0401a8c0@midget> References: <0fc301c7b694$d453df70$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <467F1BD8.5080401@comcast.net> David Lieb wrote: > Lucas should have > done in the first place!) simply in the interest of extending the > fife-expectancy > of my original switches. Ever see a comment on this list about the quality > of replacement Bugeye switches??? I have. Were relays invented back in the late 50s? And yes a Lucas India switch might as well be tossed out before you install it. But I managed to find 2 NOS Bugeye ign/light switches while restoring the 58. And around 10 and/or $15 each for real Lucas. Ebay UK :) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jun 24 19:42:11 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 21:42:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hub nut size? In-Reply-To: <3774951.1182701330860.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <3774951.1182701330860.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <467F1D73.7080304@comcast.net> type79 at ix.netcom.com wrote: > Why do you ask? Have you been sending those back to suppliers as well? Now you just made me cough up my dinner from laughing so hard. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jun 24 19:48:13 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 21:48:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Stuck Message-ID: <467F1EDD.7070306@comcast.net> http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x115/Spritenut1/Captured2007-06-2400000.jpg -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From refisk at chartermi.net Sun Jun 24 19:50:04 2007 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 21:50:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] halogen References: <0fc301c7b694$d453df70$0401a8c0@midget> <467F1BD8.5080401@comcast.net> Message-ID: <064701c7b6cb$27544940$6401a8c0@refisk> The electrical relay was invented in 1835, way before Joseph Lucas thought of many ways to not use them. Probably were not used due to BMC's requirement to build as cheaply as possible. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" To: "David Lieb" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] halogen > Were relays invented back in the late 50s?................(snip)......... From herby at herbytoys.com Sun Jun 24 19:53:18 2007 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 18:53:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] My !@#$%^&*()!@#$%^& computer In-Reply-To: <380-22007612502616625@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <000501c7b6cb$9be9b6f0$6501a8c0@HERBYZ> -----Original Message----- Why, I would even switch to an Osborne and one of those ancient programs on 5" floppy disks if it would work. Hey, the Osborne worked quite well for it's time! When I met her my wife was using an Osborne Executive "portable" for online banking, bill paying and surfing the university BB's. And that was only 17 or so years ago! Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Jun 24 19:53:38 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 20:53:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] halogen References: <0fc301c7b694$d453df70$0401a8c0@midget><467F1BD8.5080401@comcast.net> <064701c7b6cb$27544940$6401a8c0@refisk> Message-ID: <100d01c7b6cb$a6b75ec0$0401a8c0@midget> >> Were relays invented back in the late 50s?................(snip)......... Do your turn signals blink, Frank? Because of a relay? From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jun 24 19:53:34 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 21:53:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Info needed for BusterCluster article In-Reply-To: <20070625004721.84230.qmail@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20070625004721.84230.qmail@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <467F201E.1000802@comcast.net> Ron Soave wrote: > Drive that car out to the Brain > Redman classic next month at Road America, put a "FS - > $18,000" sign on it, and it'll go. Ron, wanna take a couple of Midgets out there for me? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jun 24 19:59:28 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 21:59:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] halogen In-Reply-To: <100d01c7b6cb$a6b75ec0$0401a8c0@midget> References: <0fc301c7b694$d453df70$0401a8c0@midget><467F1BD8.5080401@comcast.net> <064701c7b6cb$27544940$6401a8c0@refisk> <100d01c7b6cb$a6b75ec0$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <467F2180.1060809@comcast.net> David Lieb wrote: > Do your turn signals blink, Frank? Because of a relay? I thought that was a "flasher" ;) It says flasher right on it. Hey I can wire a Spridget with my eyes closed but I can NOT for the life of me figure out a relay. Yes you explained it to me once (or twice) But power to switch to device is sooooo simple and has worked for me trouble free for many decades. I have a drawer full of relays lots of them came with horns over the years some Lucas relays too, all new. But I just can't see adding something that may fail where nothing was used in the first place. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Sun Jun 24 20:01:33 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 19:01:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] BusterCluster article update In-Reply-To: <380-22007612502116687@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <412968.1300.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Sorry I will not give out my picture or information for the article. I did not help to have myself in a article or for fame. I did it to help some one who needed to finish their car that did not have the means to do it them self. It was nice to meet, work and learn from the great people i met at the event. That is enough for me. Vigil Robert Bruce Evans wrote: I understand that Theo Gillam, the writer for Practical Classics who is preparing the BusterCluster article, has written to all of those who participated in the BusterCluster. He is seeking a mug shot from everyone for use in the article. I understand they plan to have a map of the U.S. with a mug shot showing where people came from. And he is seeking some information on how each may have assisted in the project. I hope that each of you will help him by furnishing a photo and the information, for the BusterCluster was really about all of you and the "Sprite Spirit" that brought you together for one brief moment in time. These are the participants that I have given to Theo. If I have made any mistake, please let me know immediately! Paul Asgeirsson pasgeirsson at att.net Spencer Baker spencerbaker at earthlink.net Jim Bauder jimbpps at cox.net Glen Byrns grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Peter Caldwell peter at nosimport.com Frank Clarici Spritenut at comcast.net Al Clemens AlClemens2 at aol.com Hal Faulkner hal at katemuir.com Jay Fishbein type79 at ix.netcom.com Robert D. Gardner rdgard at cox.net Robert Houston RBHouston at aol.com Jim Johnson bmwwxman at gmail.com Mike MacLean rrengineer at dslextreme.com Larry Miller millerls at ado13.com Jerry Mock Jerry.Mock at toro.com Vern Olson vern at srviwet.com Jon Paschke jpaschke at bak.rr.com Warren Pierce wdp389 at pacbell.net Mike Rivers beatlemikey at yahoo.com Jim Rogers jarplanner at cox.net Ron Soave soavero at yahoo.com Bob Soave kestrel2 at optonline.net Vigil uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jun 24 20:16:31 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 19:16:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Info needed for BusterCluster article In-Reply-To: <467F201E.1000802@comcast.net> Message-ID: <563841.30376.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Frank Clarici wrote: > Ron, wanna take a couple of Midgets out there for > me? Hell, drive one out for the Fall Festival in September and give it a try. I own both, I like my Midget better than my Bugeye is a lot of ways, but right, wrong or otherwise, Bugeyes get about 2 - 3 times what Spridgets get for comparable condition. Drivers are $2k vs. $6K, perfect are $5K vs. $15K. And ask my buddy Jeff - the magazine photographers walk right past the $4000 paint job on his 67 race Sprite to take pictures of White Trash the race Bugeye and its $500 paint job. My brother says it's because the girl in the cut-off top and Daisy Dukes looks like a lot more fun the the girl in the evening gown. ;-) http://svra.com/SVRA/photogal.nsf/plinks/SVRA-73GRR8 Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jun 24 20:19:04 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 22:19:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Info needed for BusterCluster article In-Reply-To: <563841.30376.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <563841.30376.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <467F2618.3080005@comcast.net> Ron Soave wrote: > Bugeyes get about 2 - 3 times what Spridgets get for > comparable condition I know, 3 or 4k works for me for a Midget or 2. From wmgilroy at gmail.com Sun Jun 24 20:57:09 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 19:57:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Stuck In-Reply-To: <467F1EDD.7070306@comcast.net> References: <467F1EDD.7070306@comcast.net> Message-ID: <441250190706241957k5131463bsa899822584539e95@mail.gmail.com> I'll bet that sentence started with, "Seemed like a goo idea ...." -g On 6/24/07, Frank Clarici wrote: > > > http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x115/Spritenut1/Captured2007-06-2400000.jpg > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > wmgilroy at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From b-evans at earthlink.net Sun Jun 24 21:21:58 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 20:21:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] My !@#$%^&*()!@#$%^& computer In-Reply-To: <000501c7b6cb$9be9b6f0$6501a8c0@HERBYZ> References: <000501c7b6cb$9be9b6f0$6501a8c0@HERBYZ> Message-ID: <467F34D6.5030401@earthlink.net> >Herby wrote: "...the Osborne Executive 'portable'...and surfing the university BB's. And that was only 17 or so years ago! > > On our university campus, Osbornes were truly faculty status symbols. We had some PhD's who didn't know squat about computers, but had to be seen carrying an Osborne around simply for the prestige of it all! We even had one physics professor who told me that computers would never do anything, and that everything he "would ever need was right here" (slapping the slide rule clipped to his belt). But, because he was one of the senior members of that department, he claimed one of the 20 I bought, and carried it proudly. Unfortunately, he retired five years later and had never did learn how to operate the Osborne. From spridget63 at verizon.net Sun Jun 24 21:43:52 2007 From: spridget63 at verizon.net (DANIEL WALTERS) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 23:43:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Stuck References: <467F1EDD.7070306@comcast.net> Message-ID: <000c01c7b6db$0e8cf3c0$cb67a8c0@am.med.ge.com> OK, fill us in..... where the hell did you get yourself into that? From froggi60 at gmail.com Sun Jun 24 21:59:46 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 20:59:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tigers Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10706242059w5ef5ba0cn8c2021a64cba5d@mail.gmail.com> Spridgeteers, I have 118 pix (159 MB) of this weeks event held here in Grants Pass, Oregon put on by Tigers United. You wouldn't have to post all the pictures. Besides cars, I took shots of wheels; emblems; trunks; shifters gauges; heater valves;...and one engine with 4 Weber IDAs. Many, many nice cars including one (only 485 produced) Mk II Tiger. The Mk II was the ONLY car with a 289 engine. Others were 260s. That's Ford BTW. If anyone would like to host these for others on our list(s) to see, I'll send you a CD. Let me know. Thanks, WFO Herb Keep the sticky side down! From pythias at pacifier.com Sun Jun 24 22:06:17 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 21:06:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] My !@#$%^&*()!@#$%^& computer In-Reply-To: <380-220076024235746703@earthlink.net> References: <380-220076024235746703@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <555977118.20070624210617@pacifier.com> Hello Robert, Another alternative to SeaMonkey, (which i put on my computer ONCE for about 10 minutes.. then DELETED) is Firefox AND Thunderbird (the later of which i also DON'T use).. Steady, reliable, secure (a relative term) and easy to use and learn.. plus with the extensions, you can make it do about anything you want. -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite From hal at katemuir.com Sun Jun 24 22:26:12 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 21:26:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hub nut size? In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706240915l2809f338v25b4396f4a72a734@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: OOOOPs, IIRC the ones on FROG AYE are 1 7/8, Which I could only locate in 3/4 drive, so had to purchase both the socket and an adapter.... I will rummage around the garage in the a.m to see if I can locate mine and confirm the size. Hal -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of derf Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 9:15 AM To: Marc Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hub nut size? You can use a pair of channel lock pliers to get the nut off. The trick is to put the channel in the pliers over one of the studs. You only get a small arc of movement, but it is enough to loosen the nut. You can also loosen it with a hammer and drift. Don't forget to bend the tab washer back. DISCLAIMER: I know that pliers aren't the best tool for this job. BUT, finding and buying a 1-5/16(IIRC) socket isn't easy or cheap. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 00:38:39 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 01:38:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: Info needed for BusterCluster article In-Reply-To: <380-22007612505958546@earthlink.net> References: <380-22007612505958546@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0706242338i2ead2890xbd8142935d12b665@mail.gmail.com> My guess? You filled the spare with naturally produce methane... How cool is it that they are doing an article on a bunch of reprobates gathering to commit various mechanical and physical aborations.... I'm afraid to sent Theo a picture.... ;-) Cheers!! Jim On 6/24/07, Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > Ron Soave wrote: > The NOS air in the spare tire is worth $5K alone. > --- rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: > > I would say in the range of $8-10,000. > > The spare tire may go with the car, but the NOS air? NEVER!!! I will keep that forever, and forever!!! Where else in America could you find that pure, unadulterated air of Olde England! > > Buster From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 00:49:39 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 01:49:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Info needed for BusterCluster article In-Reply-To: <467F2618.3080005@comcast.net> References: <563841.30376.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <467F2618.3080005@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0706242349p663ecaf8x5b2df0a8d7b1cb34@mail.gmail.com> No, no, no and NO! You guys are forgetting the obvious. It's not sentimental value, Ron. It is now a car with an incredible history that is well documented not only in our memory, but also online in several locations and therefore extremely unusual. Given what the girls got at Barrett Jackson for their restoration, I hardly think $18K is unreasonable. The important thing is that the owner should remain as anonymous as possible. If appraisers should come to know Buster for what he is, you couldn't get $.25 for the car! ;-) Cheers!! Jim - 68 midget in Dodge City On 6/24/07, Frank Clarici wrote: > Ron Soave wrote: > > Bugeyes get about 2 - 3 times what Spridgets get for > > comparable condition > > I know, 3 or 4k works for me for a Midget or 2. > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jun 25 05:25:51 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 06:25:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] halogen References: <0fc301c7b694$d453df70$0401a8c0@midget><467F1BD8.5080401@comcast.net> <064701c7b6cb$27544940$6401a8c0@refisk> <100d01c7b6cb$a6b75ec0$0401a8c0@midget> <467F2180.1060809@comcast.net> Message-ID: <104201c7b71b$968706e0$0401a8c0@midget> >> Do your turn signals blink, Frank? Because of a relay? > > I thought that was a "flasher" ;) It says flasher right on it. > Hey I can wire a Spridget with my eyes closed but I can NOT for the life > of me figure out a relay. Yes you explained it to me once (or twice) > But power to switch to device is sooooo simple and has worked for me > trouble free for many decades. > I have a drawer full of relays lots of them came with horns over the years > some Lucas relays too, all new. But I just can't see adding something that > may fail where nothing was used in the first place. The "proper" term is "flasher relay". Given the nature of the beast, it must have resulted from early Lucas research into relays ;-) In the case of headlights (or the starter motor of later Spridgets like mine), all the relay does is to use the existing headlight circuitry to drive the comparatively small load of the electromagnet in the relay rather than the significantly larger load of the headlights. Even a marginal headlight switch will handle that. Thus, the "power to switch to device" becomes battery connection on solenoid (optionally through a fuse) to relay (switch) to headlight. As mentioned before, the path is shorter and simpler. Installed properly, the relays can be bypassed with two connections without carrying anything with you to do it. David From geowiz.sgy at cox.net Mon Jun 25 05:30:11 2007 From: geowiz.sgy at cox.net (James Pickard) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 06:30:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tigers In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10706242059w5ef5ba0cn8c2021a64cba5d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: They only made 4085 Tigers before Chrysler shut production down when they bought the manufacturer (Rootes Group) and found their 273 wouldn't fit. Mine is number 3001 out of the run. Only the 1967 run had 289's, the rest 260's. But many (mine included) now sport Mk II spec 289's and wide ratio transmissions. Since the 221, 260, 289, and 302 blocks are all the same size externally, there are a whole lot of 302 running around as well. You can buy a brand new crate 302 motor from Ford with something like 350 hp for only a few grand if you really want to terrorize the passenger seat occupant. With that set-up, it really is a poor man's Cobra. Jim Pickard B9473298 ('65 Tiger) AN5L/12109 ('59 Sprite) 2003 Mini Cooper Lafayette, LA -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of WFO Herb Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 11:00 PM To: Ed's Spridgeteers; Spridgeteers Subject: [Spridgets] Tigers Spridgeteers, I have 118 pix (159 MB) of this weeks event held here in Grants Pass, Oregon put on by Tigers United. You wouldn't have to post all the pictures. Besides cars, I took shots of wheels; emblems; trunks; shifters gauges; heater valves;...and one engine with 4 Weber IDAs. Many, many nice cars including one (only 485 produced) Mk II Tiger. The Mk II was the ONLY car with a 289 engine. Others were 260s. That's Ford BTW. If anyone would like to host these for others on our list(s) to see, I'll send you a CD. Let me know. Thanks, WFO Herb Keep the sticky side down! _______________________________________________ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jun 25 06:15:36 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 8:15:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: Info needed for BusterCluster article Message-ID: <20070625121536.UIOD25465.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> If that's true and you are a christian, then it would be a sin to mess with the air in the spare tire. By your own admission, that would be adultery. > > The spare tire may go with the car, but the NOS air? NEVER!!! I will keep that forever, and forever!!! Where else in America could you find that pure, unadulterated air of Olde England! > > > > Buster From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Jun 25 06:18:18 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 07:18:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] EFI for your Spridget? Message-ID: <001701c7b722$ec021900$c4064b00$@com> &mode=0&preference=0&sellerid=extrudabody&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Feba ymotors%2Fws%2FeBayISAPI.dll%3FViewItem%26item%3D290132665846&ssPageName=STR K:MEFS:ADDVI> Item number: 290132665846 Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 06:19:27 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 06:19:27 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Hub nut size? In-Reply-To: References: <5f00d9910706240915l2809f338v25b4396f4a72a734@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706250519n2efed16fr6dbbe4b02765082c@mail.gmail.com> Well, something is 1-5/16, maybe the crank nut. Anywho, I'll be devil's advocate and recommend you try Horrible Frait if you want to buy that socket and an adapter. Unless you plan to do a bunch, the HF junk will work. If you are going to do many, then get something better. From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 06:21:16 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 06:21:16 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] EFI for your Spridget? In-Reply-To: <001701c7b722$ec021900$c4064b00$@com> References: <001701c7b722$ec021900$c4064b00$@com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706250521x17e72622o508fd737b2b5365c@mail.gmail.com> Try this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&viewitem=&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2F290132665846_W0QQ_trksidZm37QQfromZR40QQfviZ1&item=290132665846 Your linking skills are gay. From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 06:24:24 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 06:24:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] EFI for your Spridget? In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706250521x17e72622o508fd737b2b5365c@mail.gmail.com> References: <001701c7b722$ec021900$c4064b00$@com> <5f00d9910706250521x17e72622o508fd737b2b5365c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706250524x2520e466r3432e78b042684c7@mail.gmail.com> Easier and cheaper to get a MegaSquirt and TB(s) from a motorcycle. Get a big one and use a single HIF6 manifold. That stuff doesn't look bad but you can pick up some good used stuff and make a working system cheaper. From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 06:35:17 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 06:35:17 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] halogen In-Reply-To: <104201c7b71b$968706e0$0401a8c0@midget> References: <0fc301c7b694$d453df70$0401a8c0@midget> <467F1BD8.5080401@comcast.net> <064701c7b6cb$27544940$6401a8c0@refisk> <100d01c7b6cb$a6b75ec0$0401a8c0@midget> <467F2180.1060809@comcast.net> <104201c7b71b$968706e0$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706250535v6680269bu87cf2a3f3ef2c441@mail.gmail.com> Frank, A starter solenoid is a relay. Why it is called a solenoid instead of a relay, who knows? Maybe because some starters have a combo relay/solenoid that both makes the electrical connection and moves the starter gear into mesh. But a relay just lets a small current control a big current device. Some cars have a remote mechanical starter switch, which isn't a relay. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 06:37:29 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 06:37:29 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Stuck In-Reply-To: <000c01c7b6db$0e8cf3c0$cb67a8c0@am.med.ge.com> References: <467F1EDD.7070306@comcast.net> <000c01c7b6db$0e8cf3c0$cb67a8c0@am.med.ge.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706250537meb2bd7fn934a34c01cb1f337@mail.gmail.com> 12 miles back in the "pine barrens" (woods?). That was covered in a previous thread. On 6/24/07, DANIEL WALTERS wrote: > > OK, fill us in..... where the hell did you get yourself into that? From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jun 25 06:45:39 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 8:45:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Stuck Message-ID: <20070625124539.YGVG9197.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Frank! I had to laugh when I read your story. I routinely found myself in that sort of predicament with my first car ( Datsun 510 ) and usually in my Sunday best. I often went for spirited drives on old logging roads and by the time I would realize that I was in mud, momentum was usually my best option, but not always. :) After the first time, I carried a few boards in the trunk to provide a base for the jack and to put under each tire to get me moving again. It usually took a few repetitions to get far enough out of the deep stuff to get going again. I'm glad you had fun! RD > On 6/24/07, Frank Clarici wrote: > > > > http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x115/Spritenut1/Captured2007-06-2400000.jpg > > -- > > Frank Clarici > > Toms River, NJ From ckotting at wideopenwest.com Mon Jun 25 06:50:43 2007 From: ckotting at wideopenwest.com (CHRIS KOTTING) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 07:50:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] My !@#$%^&*()!@#$%^& computer In-Reply-To: <380-220076024235746703@earthlink.net> References: <380-220076024235746703@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20070625124239.M27047@wideopenwest.com> Buster - Since AOL now owns Netscape, that's going to happen. You may want to consider switching to Mozilla (the version of the software that's not owned by AOL) or Firefox and Thunderbird (the open-source version, that has the mail software (Thunderbird) seperated from the web browser (Firefox). Actually, there's a good chance that the upgrade to Firefox and Thunderbird will be a way to straighten this mess out. T-bird is capable of importing the mailbox files from multiple versions and accounts adn can help you get sorted out. Chris K. On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 16:57:46 -0700, Robert Bruce Evans wrote > After I got home from England, I found my computer was in a state of > total and complete disaster. Before I left, I had upgraded my > Netscape browser from 7.2 to 8.1, but I was not pleased with the > either the browser function, or the e-mail. The new one was trying > to force me to use AOL That was also crappy, but I am stuck with it > for the time being. Anyway, for some reason, I was simply not > receiving return e-mail from many people I had expected it. Also, I > have not been receiving mail from some of the Sprite Internet lists > I am on. What I have just found was that about 200 e-mail message > had gone in my old Netscape 7.2 program (several of which had been > duplicated in the new Earthlink e-mail. Even worse, I also found in > that old Netscape 7.2 copies of a lot of e-mail that I had sent out. > These copies had not been sent out from that software, but from the > new software. So, I wonder, did any of it reach those for whom I had > intended it. And, if I have not responded to e-mail you sent to me, > try again. I would do a Clarici with the bloody computer, but it > wasn't made in China. It was made right here in Orange County, California > Buster Evans From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jun 25 07:27:16 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 08:27:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] halogen References: <0fc301c7b694$d453df70$0401a8c0@midget> <467F1BD8.5080401@comcast.net><064701c7b6cb$27544940$6401a8c0@refisk><100d01c7b6cb$a6b75ec0$0401a8c0@midget> <467F2180.1060809@comcast.net><104201c7b71b$968706e0$0401a8c0@midget> <5f00d9910706250535v6680269bu87cf2a3f3ef2c441@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001601c7b72c$8e0c4000$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > A starter solenoid is a relay. Why it is called a solenoid instead of a > relay, who knows? Maybe because some starters have a combo relay/solenoid > that both makes the electrical connection and moves the starter gear into > mesh. But a relay just lets a small current control a big current device. > Some cars have a remote mechanical starter switch, which isn't a relay. derF, Very true. Bugeyes happen to fall into the category of "cars that have a remote mechanical starter switch", which is why I did not mention that relay. David From dmg at bossig.com Mon Jun 25 07:53:50 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (dmg at bossig.com) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 06:53:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] halogen In-Reply-To: <104201c7b71b$968706e0$0401a8c0@midget> References: , <104201c7b71b$968706e0$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <467F667E.15642.175DB0@dmg.bossig.com> The flasher relay uses the heat effect on a bi-metallic strip which causes it to flex and to operate as a switch. 'Regular' relays use a coil wound around a bit of metal to create a magnetic field that pulls an 'L' shaped piece of metal which operates the contacts. Hope this helps.. Dave G. From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 08:17:31 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 08:17:31 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] halogen In-Reply-To: <467F667E.15642.175DB0@dmg.bossig.com> References: <104201c7b71b$968706e0$0401a8c0@midget> <467F667E.15642.175DB0@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706250717p220324ebibfe9f7919c55e219@mail.gmail.com> Unless the flasher is a solid-state flasher. Then it uses electronics to turn on-off. You need solid-state or electronic flashers for applications like big rigs and if you use LED bulbs because LEDs don't draw enough current to heat the bi-metal strip and operate that type of flasher. On 6/25/07, dmg at bossig.com wrote: > > The flasher relay uses the heat effect on a bi-metallic strip which causes > it to > flex and to operate as a switch. From dmg at bossig.com Mon Jun 25 08:27:10 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (dmg at bossig.com) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 07:27:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] halogen In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706250717p220324ebibfe9f7919c55e219@mail.gmail.com> References: , <467F667E.15642.175DB0@dmg.bossig.com>, <5f00d9910706250717p220324ebibfe9f7919c55e219@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <467F6E4E.10456.35E31A@dmg.bossig.com> Derf, Agreed... I was thinking more on the lines of what was fitted to the earlier Spridgets.. like the old relay controled voltage regulator Dave G. On 25 Jun 2007 at 8:17, derf wrote: >> Unless the flasher is a solid-state flasher. Then it uses electronics >> to turn on-off. >> You need solid-state or electronic flashers for applications like big >> rigs and if you use LED bulbs because LEDs don't draw enough current to heat >> the bi-metal strip and operate that type of flasher. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon Jun 25 08:38:46 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 09:38:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] halogen In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706250717p220324ebibfe9f7919c55e219@mail.gmail.com> References: <104201c7b71b$968706e0$0401a8c0@midget> <467F667E.15642.175DB0@dmg.bossig.com> <5f00d9910706250717p220324ebibfe9f7919c55e219@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46A8C9D1-B20E-484C-8452-CBE4F530F4C0@comcast.net> On Jun 25, 2007, at 9:17 AM, derf wrote: > Unless the flasher is a solid-state flasher. Then it uses > electronics to > turn on-off. > You need solid-state or electronic flashers for applications like > big rigs .. and modern cars which don't even go tinka tinka tinka when the turn signal is on EXCEPT through the sound system.. yup.. Lester > and if you use LED bulbs because LEDs don't draw enough current to > heat the > bi-metal strip and operate that type of flasher. > > On 6/25/07, dmg at bossig.com wrote: >> >> The flasher relay uses the heat effect on a bi-metallic strip >> which causes >> it to >> flex and to operate as a switch. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jun 25 08:42:08 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 09:42:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] halogen References: <104201c7b71b$968706e0$0401a8c0@midget><467F667E.15642.175DB0@dmg.bossig.com><5f00d9910706250717p220324ebibfe9f7919c55e219@mail.gmail.com> <46A8C9D1-B20E-484C-8452-CBE4F530F4C0@comcast.net> Message-ID: <002a01c7b737$021bd050$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > .. and modern cars which don't even go tinka tinka tinka when the > turn signal is on EXCEPT through the sound system.. yup.. And RWA Midgets that have the signal relay in the engine compartment so you CAN'T hear the tinka tinka tinka when the signal fails to cancel because it was a turn wider than 91*.... From cciaffone at verizon.net Mon Jun 25 09:17:25 2007 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 11:17:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] halogen In-Reply-To: <46A8C9D1-B20E-484C-8452-CBE4F530F4C0@comcast.net> References: <104201c7b71b$968706e0$0401a8c0@midget> <467F667E.15642.175DB0@dmg.bossig.com> <5f00d9910706250717p220324ebibfe9f7919c55e219@mail.gmail.com> <46A8C9D1-B20E-484C-8452-CBE4F530F4C0@comcast.net> Message-ID: <467FDC85.8090801@verizon.net> Yeah, but since nobody uses them anymore, doesn't matter. oldsaabguy wrote: > .. and modern cars which don't even go tinka tinka tinka when the > turn signal is on EXCEPT through the sound system.. yup.. > > Lester From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jun 25 09:58:45 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 08:58:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] halogen In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706250535v6680269bu87cf2a3f3ef2c441@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > Why it is called a solenoid instead of a > relay, who knows? For the same reason the ignition capacitor is called a condenser. From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net Mon Jun 25 11:06:07 2007 From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (Richard Feibusch) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 09:06:07 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Central Coast (CA) British Car & Motorcycle Show Message-ID: ************************************************ The 17th Annual Central Coast British Car Club's All British Car & Motorcycle Show July 22, 2007 All Day 8:00 am to 4:00 pm Channel Islands Yacht Harbor 3600 Harbor Blvd. Oxnard Beach, CA Featured Marque: Morgan Cars and 3-wheelers Trophies in every class- Raffle Prizes given all day! Swap Meet! ~ Entertainment! ~ Food! - Fun! Please call C. Darryl Struth at (805) 644-6211 Or Don Greene (805) 652-0330/email: To get a registration form go to the clubs website: http://www.centralcoastbritishcarclub.com **************************************************** From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Jun 25 10:37:15 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 09:37:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy Message-ID: <000601c7b747$17411250$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Does anyone have a recommendation for a thoroughly modern, Ipod compatible head unit? I'm planning to install a stereo in Bugsy for the first time and want to have my Ipod so I don't run out of tunes on the way to Lake of the Ozarks. I should thing that 200W is a minimum and 4 speakers, 2 in the boot divider, and two in a homemade angled speaker holder in place of the usual radio console is the plan for now. Thanks, Glen Byrns From Daniel1312 at aol.com Mon Jun 25 10:38:42 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:38:42 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] halogen Message-ID: I'm staying out of this one!!! In a message dated 25/06/07 13:35:32 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: > A starter solenoid is a relay. From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 10:48:38 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 10:48:38 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] halogen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706250948s402565cbsf3f8942a9a8fbc93@mail.gmail.com> Hey, you omitted my explanation of what a real starter solenoid is. Some are both relay/solenoid (GM) and some (mostly Ford) have a solenoid on the starter and a relay that they call a "solenoid" that mounts on the firewall and is really a relay. Most non LBC starters I've ever seen have a solenoid for the gear engagement and a relay for the current handling. On 6/25/07, Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: > > I'm staying out of this one!!! > > > In a message dated 25/06/07 13:35:32 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.comwrites: > > A starter solenoid is a relay. From Daniel1312 at aol.com Mon Jun 25 10:36:13 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:36:13 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Tigers Message-ID: Ehem, Here in England there are Alpine Tigers but also Avenger Tigers. I know someone who has an Avenger Tiger and someone that lives around the corner from me has one visit one from time to time. I've come across several racing Alpine Tigers but no Avengers. Daniel1312 In a message dated 25/06/07 12:31:16 GMT Daylight Time, geowiz.sgy at cox.net writes: > They only made 4085 Tigers before Chrysler shut production down when they > bought the manufacturer (Rootes Group) and found their 273 wouldn't fit. > Mine is number 3001 out of the run. Only the 1967 run had 289's, the rest > 260's. But many (mine included) now sport Mk II spec 289's and wide ratio > transmissions. Since the 221, 260, 289, and 302 blocks are all the same > size externally, there are a whole lot of 302 running around as well. You > can buy a brand new crate 302 motor from Ford with something like 350 hp for > only a few grand if you really want to terrorize the passenger seat > occupant. With that set-up, it really is a poor man's Cobra. > > Jim Pickard > B9473298 ('65 Tiger) > AN5L/12109 ('59 Sprite) > 2003 Mini Cooper > Lafayette, LA > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of WFO Herb > Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 11:00 PM > To: Ed's Spridgeteers; Spridgeteers > Subject: [Spridgets] Tigers > > > Spridgeteers, > > I have 118 pix (159 MB) of this weeks event held here in Grants Pass, > Oregon put on by Tigers United. > > You wouldn't have to post all the pictures. Besides cars, I took > shots of wheels; emblems; trunks; shifters gauges; heater > valves;...and one engine with 4 Weber IDAs. > > Many, many nice cars including one (only 485 produced) Mk II Tiger. > The Mk II was the ONLY car with a 289 engine. Others were 260s. > That's Ford BTW. > > If anyone would like to host these for others on our list(s) to see, > I'll send you a CD. > > Let me know. > > Thanks, > > WFO Herb > Keep the sticky side down! > _______________________________________________ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jun 25 11:01:10 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:01:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Oklahoma "time capsule" Plymouth Message-ID: <20070625170110.MZSQ5730.tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Car buried in time capsule provides important find for dating gasoline spills Published: Monday, June 25, 2007 | 12:27 PM ET Canadian Press NORMAN, Okla. (AP) - The Plymouth Belvedere buried in a time capsule was rusty and undriveable but gasoline cached with the car could have scientific value. The people who put together the time capsule 50 years ago in Tulsa included two containers of gasoline in case fuel was no longer available for the Plymouth when the vault was unsealed this year. For Paul Philp, a professor of petroleum and environmental geochemistry at the University of Oklahoma, the gas is valuable on its own. "We're going to begin fingerprinting the gasoline and compare it to modern day gasolines," he said. Philp, who specializes in environmental forensic work, hopes researchers will be able to use the comparison of old and new gas as a reference to determine the age of gasoline spills that have leaked into the ground. "There aren't many of these age-related samples available," he said. Philp took the two jars of gasoline, along with four others believed to contain motor oil, to his laboratory at the university's Sarkeys Energy Center. The time capsule, a concrete vault buried under the lawn of the Tulsa County Courthouse, was unsealed June 15. Although the Belvedere had been sealed in protective wrapping, water penetrated the vault and the two-door hardtop was covered with rust. ) The Canadian Press, 2007 From shelden3 at pldi.net Mon Jun 25 11:43:56 2007 From: shelden3 at pldi.net (charlie shelden) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:43:56 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Oklahoma 'time capsule' Plymouth In-Reply-To: <20070625170110.MZSQ5730.tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca > References: <20070625170110.MZSQ5730.tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <58580.164.58.184.10.1182793436.squirrel@164.58.184.10> This was really an interesting story here in Oklahoma. It was part of our Centenial celebration. They had a drawing to see who the winner would be. You had to guess the population of Tulsa in 2007. It seems the micro film was intact in the car and they are in the process of contacting the winner. They said he would be about 87 years old now, if he is not living it will go to his nearest living relative (if they can find them). I can just see it, Mr Smith, YES, you just won a 57 Plymouth...oh by the way it is really rusty. But there is this guy in NJ named Frank, he can get that restored in a few days for you. (spridget content) Charlie > Car buried in time capsule provides important find for dating gasoline > spills > Published: Monday, June 25, 2007 | 12:27 PM ET > Canadian Press > NORMAN, Okla. (AP) - The Plymouth Belvedere buried in a time capsule was > rusty > and undriveable but gasoline cached with the car could have scientific > value. > > The people who put together the time capsule 50 years ago in Tulsa > included > two containers of gasoline in case fuel was no longer available for the > Plymouth when the vault was unsealed this year. > > For Paul Philp, a professor of petroleum and environmental geochemistry at > the > University of Oklahoma, the gas is valuable on its own. > > "We're going to begin fingerprinting the gasoline and compare it to modern > day > gasolines," he said. > > Philp, who specializes in environmental forensic work, hopes researchers > will > be able to use the comparison of old and new gas as a reference to > determine > the age of gasoline spills that have leaked into the ground. > > "There aren't many of these age-related samples available," he said. > > Philp took the two jars of gasoline, along with four others believed to > contain motor oil, to his laboratory at the university's Sarkeys Energy > Center. > > The time capsule, a concrete vault buried under the lawn of the Tulsa > County > Courthouse, was unsealed June 15. > > Although the Belvedere had been sealed in protective wrapping, water > penetrated the vault and the two-door hardtop was covered with rust. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jun 25 11:52:48 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:52:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Oklahoma 'time capsule' Plymouth Message-ID: <20070625175248.VRC9197.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Better add a couple of days to that! I saw a picture of it on the news a few days ago. It's 'big' and rusty. :) ( Hard to tell the exact condition from the image though. ) > From: "charlie shelden" > > I can just see it, Mr Smith, YES, you just won a 57 Plymouth...oh by the > way it is really rusty. But there is this guy in NJ named Frank, he can > get that restored in a few days for you. (spridget content) > > > Charlie > > Although the Belvedere had been sealed in protective wrapping, water > > penetrated the vault and the two-door hardtop was covered with rust. From shelden3 at pldi.net Mon Jun 25 11:53:33 2007 From: shelden3 at pldi.net (charlie shelden) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:53:33 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spridgets] More info..... Oklahoma 'time capsule' Plymouth In-Reply-To: <20070625170110.MZSQ5730.tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca > References: <20070625170110.MZSQ5730.tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <3197.164.58.184.10.1182794013.squirrel@164.58.184.10> http://www.forwardlook.net/19571958Plymouth/countdown.asp This is a good story on it, some quotes from '57 as well as some of the other winnings for the new owner of the car. charlie From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 13:29:36 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 14:29:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy In-Reply-To: <000601c7b747$17411250$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <000601c7b747$17411250$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <43840a7e0706251229p5a36d779u157979a624bb2a23@mail.gmail.com> Glen, Tow a trailer with a JBL Rock Concert Power Supply, Amp & Pre-Amp system with 6 - 300lb Speaker stacks pushing 1200 Watts. You'll need a big enough trailer for this system plus the 240V - 30A generator. Point the speakers forward toward the BE and the force of the sound will push you up hills. ;-) Seriously - Just get a good set of head phones and plug them into your Ipod. You get great sound, no wind noise, you don't draw on the car's generator, and the BE remains more original. Touring motorcyclists do this all the time with great success. You don't have to push the Ipod signal through a Stereo - just use it straight out of the Ipod into the headphones. Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City On 6/25/07, Glen Byrns wrote: > Does anyone have a recommendation for a thoroughly modern, Ipod compatible > head unit? I'm planning to install a stereo in Bugsy for the first time and > want to have my Ipod so I don't run out of tunes on the way to Lake of the > Ozarks. I should thing that 200W is a minimum and 4 speakers, 2 in the boot > divider, and two in a homemade angled speaker holder in place of the usual > radio console is the plan for now. > > Thanks, > Glen Byrns > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jun 25 13:34:04 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 15:34:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy Message-ID: <20070625193404.YBDH875.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> I had headphones in my first car. A police officer told me that that's illegal. ( as is playing the music too loud. ) In case you wanted to know. :) > From: "Jim Johnson" > > Glen, > > Seriously - Just get a good set of head phones and plug them into your > Ipod. You get great sound, no wind noise, you don't draw on the car's > generator, and the BE remains more original. Touring motorcyclists do > this all the time with great success. You don't have to push the Ipod > signal through a Stereo - just use it straight out of the Ipod into > the headphones. > > Cheers!! > Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City From peter at nosimport.com Mon Jun 25 13:43:37 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 14:43:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy In-Reply-To: <20070625193404.YBDH875.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sy mpatico.ca> References: <20070625193404.YBDH875.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070625144224.03689018@nosimport.com> >Plus you miss the cacaphonous symphony of the gearbox........ > >I had headphones in my first car. A police officer told me that >that's illegal. ( as is playing the music too loud. ) > >In case you wanted to know. :) Lord, I pray my brakes are twice as good as the guy in front of me.... ... and half as good as the guy behind. From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Jun 25 13:44:09 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:44:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy References: <000601c7b747$17411250$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <43840a7e0706251229p5a36d779u157979a624bb2a23@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000e01c7b761$32be6e00$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> I went to the audio store at lunch and got a JVC 200W system with a direct plug for the pod. The headphone answer is clearly the best for the quality of sound in a bugeye, but its definitely illegal. I'm toying with the idea of doing "The Drive" with the fiberglass hardtop in place. Though a bit whussy compared to genuine, masochistic Sprite driving, the reduced wear and tear on the driver might be worth it as well as the gas mileage for such a long trip. The side benefit would be actually hearing the stereo. Glen Byrns > Seriously - Just get a good set of head phones and plug them into your > Ipod. You get great sound, no wind noise, you don't draw on the car's > generator, and the BE remains more original. Touring motorcyclists do > this all the time with great success. You don't have to push the Ipod > signal through a Stereo - just use it straight out of the Ipod into > the headphones. > > Cheers!! From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Mon Jun 25 13:47:12 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 14:47:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy References: <000601c7b747$17411250$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <43840a7e0706251229p5a36d779u157979a624bb2a23@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <007d01c7b761$a0467030$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> ILLEGAL in lots of States, Jim!! IL is. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 13:49:51 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 14:49:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy In-Reply-To: <000e01c7b761$32be6e00$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <000601c7b747$17411250$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <43840a7e0706251229p5a36d779u157979a624bb2a23@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c7b761$32be6e00$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <43840a7e0706251249ya57b44dnb1d671190c1e99f0@mail.gmail.com> Wear a helmet and put the headphones inside.... It's illegal on motorcycles too, but more than half of the long distance riders do it with earphones inside the helmet. I never met anyone who got a ticket for it.... ;-) Besides.... The helmet makes you look as if the car is much "badder"!! Cheers!! Jim On 6/25/07, Glen Byrns wrote: > I went to the audio store at lunch and got a JVC 200W system with a direct > plug for the pod. The headphone answer is clearly the best for the quality > of sound in a bugeye, but its definitely illegal. I'm toying with the idea > of doing "The Drive" with the fiberglass hardtop in place. Though a bit > whussy compared to genuine, masochistic Sprite driving, the reduced wear and > tear on the driver might be worth it as well as the gas mileage for such a > long trip. The side benefit would be actually hearing the stereo. > > Glen Byrns > > > > > > Seriously - Just get a good set of head phones and plug them into your > > Ipod. You get great sound, no wind noise, you don't draw on the car's > > generator, and the BE remains more original. Touring motorcyclists do > > this all the time with great success. You don't have to push the Ipod > > signal through a Stereo - just use it straight out of the Ipod into > > the headphones. > > > > Cheers!! > > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon Jun 25 13:51:59 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 14:51:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy In-Reply-To: <000e01c7b761$32be6e00$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <000601c7b747$17411250$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <43840a7e0706251229p5a36d779u157979a624bb2a23@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c7b761$32be6e00$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <54EE87FD-625E-4685-A744-612BE70EFF1F@comcast.net> It is NOT whussy to enclose your self in a small heated box for 1000 miles or so. I am certain that temps won't exceed 130 or so in there for well over 15 minutes. The remaining 3 hours of driving tho'..Foolish, uncomfortable, dangerous sure but not whussy.. ;-) Lester On Jun 25, 2007, at 2:44 PM, Glen Byrns wrote: > I went to the audio store at lunch and got a JVC 200W system with a > direct > plug for the pod. The headphone answer is clearly the best for the > quality > of sound in a bugeye, but its definitely illegal. I'm toying with > the idea > of doing "The Drive" with the fiberglass hardtop in place. Though > a bit > whussy compared to genuine, masochistic Sprite driving, the reduced > wear and > tear on the driver might be worth it as well as the gas mileage for > such a > long trip. The side benefit would be actually hearing the stereo. > > Glen Byrns > > > > >> Seriously - Just get a good set of head phones and plug them into >> your >> Ipod. You get great sound, no wind noise, you don't draw on the car's >> generator, and the BE remains more original. Touring motorcyclists do >> this all the time with great success. You don't have to push the Ipod >> signal through a Stereo - just use it straight out of the Ipod into >> the headphones. >> >> Cheers!! > _______________________________________________ > oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From Daniel1312 at aol.com Mon Jun 25 14:10:17 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 16:10:17 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: Info needed for BusterCluster article Message-ID: I can bag some up and send it ....... airmail or maybe I should bag it up and auction it on ebay? In a message dated 25/06/07 02:01:08 GMT Daylight Time, b-evans at earthlink.net writes: > Where else in America could you find that pure, unadulterated air of Olde > England! From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jun 25 14:12:27 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 15:12:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: Info needed for BusterCluster article References: Message-ID: <006001c7b765$2809f6b0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >> Where else in America could you find that pure, unadulterated air of Olde >> England! >I can bag some up and send it ....... airmail or maybe I should bag it up >and > auction it on ebay? But that would be adulterated air of Moderne Englande. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jun 25 14:13:16 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 15:13:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tigers References: Message-ID: <006401c7b765$44b21590$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Here in England there are Alpine Tigers but also Avenger Tigers. Would that be Emma Peale's current ride? From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 14:18:38 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 15:18:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tigers In-Reply-To: <006401c7b765$44b21590$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <006401c7b765$44b21590$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <43840a7e0706251318i38063c66vdc18c124d6d51bc1@mail.gmail.com> Lotus Elan? Or was that the other gal? Maxwell Smart drove the Sunbeam.... Way COOL was the blown 4.5 Liter Bentley Steed drove! Better than Viagra!! Cheers!! OF Jim On 6/25/07, David Lieb wrote: > > Here in England there are Alpine Tigers but also Avenger Tigers. > > Would that be Emma Peale's current ride? From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jun 25 14:22:50 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:22:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0706251229p5a36d779u157979a624bb2a23@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > Seriously - Just get a good set of head phones and plug them into your > Ipod. And you'll have enough money left over to pay the fines...or are headphones in cars actually legal in some states? I agree that 200watts sounds excessive, but remember that in modern car stereo nomenclature, 200 watts means 4 times 25 watts, and 25 watts isn't that much considering the extremely low efficiency of modern speakers. BZ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 14:31:05 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 15:31:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy In-Reply-To: References: <43840a7e0706251229p5a36d779u157979a624bb2a23@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0706251331o18a2e65bx478655289135acb0@mail.gmail.com> True... Also, in my experience, you get pretty $hitty sound quality in an open car due to wind noise regardless of how you set it up. Didn't Bose or somebody come up with noise canceling technology recently? Would that work in a convertible? I saw a convertible recently that had one of those systems that automatically adjusts the volume for interior noise level. The owner told me it was useless and he had to disable it. Driving with the top down, the system would turn itself up so high it damaged a couple of the speakers! Cheers!! Jim On 6/25/07, Billy Zoom wrote: > > Seriously - Just get a good set of head phones and plug them into your > > Ipod. > And you'll have enough money left over to pay the fines...or are headphones > in cars actually legal in some states? I agree that 200watts sounds > excessive, but remember that in modern car stereo nomenclature, 200 watts > means 4 times 25 watts, and 25 watts isn't that much considering the > extremely low efficiency of modern speakers. > BZ > > > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon Jun 25 14:31:17 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:31:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: Info needed for BusterCluster article In-Reply-To: <006001c7b765$2809f6b0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <006001c7b765$2809f6b0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <46802610.7000200@earthlink.net> David Lieb wrote: "But that would be adulterated air of Moderne Englande. " Or the adulterated air of Sandburg's "Stockyards"? From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jun 25 14:32:24 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 15:32:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy References: Message-ID: <006b01c7b767$f07b37b0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> I installed a Pioneer 4800 (IIRC) in Trish's Miata (mandatory Miata content). It came stock with an input designed for connecting to the headphone output of any of those devices, plus I bought their proprietary iPod adapter. With this device, you connect the iPod, stash it away, and control it from the front of the radio. It works great now that I learned that it wants to hear from the remote before it works right ?!?!? From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Jun 25 14:37:41 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 15:37:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy In-Reply-To: <006b01c7b767$f07b37b0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <006b01c7b767$f07b37b0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <006e01c7b768$b3d8a530$1b89ef90$@com> Note... "Trish's Miata"... perfectly acceptable in the hetero world. (Mandatory Miata homo content) -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 3:32 PM To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy I installed a Pioneer 4800 (IIRC) in Trish's Miata (mandatory Miata content). It came stock with an input designed for connecting to the headphone output of any of those devices, plus I bought their proprietary iPod adapter. With this device, you connect the iPod, stash it away, and control it from the front of the radio. It works great now that I learned that it wants to hear from the remote before it works right ?!?!? From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jun 25 14:43:55 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 15:43:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy References: <006b01c7b767$f07b37b0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <006e01c7b768$b3d8a530$1b89ef90$@com> Message-ID: <007801c7b769$8c965520$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Note... "Trish's Miata"... perfectly acceptable in the hetero world. > (Mandatory Miata homo content) In the interest of accuracy, however, I should have said "ONE of Trish's Miatas"... From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Jun 25 14:47:59 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 15:47:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy In-Reply-To: <007801c7b769$8c965520$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <006b01c7b767$f07b37b0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <006e01c7b768$b3d8a530$1b89ef90$@com> <007801c7b769$8c965520$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <006f01c7b76a$1f766e20$5e634a60$@com> As long as you don't have Miatas for yourself in colors to match your window treatments... then, all is well. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 3:44 PM To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy > Note... "Trish's Miata"... perfectly acceptable in the hetero world. > (Mandatory Miata homo content) In the interest of accuracy, however, I should have said "ONE of Trish's Miatas"... From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon Jun 25 15:19:55 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 16:19:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tigers In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0706251318i38063c66vdc18c124d6d51bc1@mail.gmail.com> References: <006401c7b765$44b21590$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <43840a7e0706251318i38063c66vdc18c124d6d51bc1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: umm.. "Emma" didn't hold up as well as some other "period" sex icons.. Raquel has done well.. Lester .. "Emma" in her heyday and in that catsuit.. woof. On Jun 25, 2007, at 3:18 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Lotus Elan? Or was that the other gal? Maxwell Smart drove the > Sunbeam.... Way COOL was the blown 4.5 Liter Bentley Steed drove! > Better than Viagra!! > > Cheers!! > OF Jim > > On 6/25/07, David Lieb wrote: >>> Here in England there are Alpine Tigers but also Avenger Tigers. >> >> Would that be Emma Peale's current ride? From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jun 25 15:42:25 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 16:42:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy References: <006b01c7b767$f07b37b0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <006e01c7b768$b3d8a530$1b89ef90$@com> <007801c7b769$8c965520$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <006f01c7b76a$1f766e20$5e634a60$@com> Message-ID: <007c01c7b771$b8ce6530$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > As long as you don't have Miatas for yourself in colors to match your > window > treatments... then, all is well. What is a "window treatment"? From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Jun 25 15:55:40 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 16:55:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy In-Reply-To: <007c01c7b771$b8ce6530$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <006b01c7b767$f07b37b0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <006e01c7b768$b3d8a530$1b89ef90$@com> <007801c7b769$8c965520$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <006f01c7b76a$1f766e20$5e634a60$@com> <007c01c7b771$b8ce6530$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <008f01c7b773$9465f3a0$bd31dae0$@com> Ask a (male) Miata owner. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 4:42 PM To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy > As long as you don't have Miatas for yourself in colors to match your > window > treatments... then, all is well. What is a "window treatment"? From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Mon Jun 25 16:03:27 2007 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 18:03:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy Message-ID: <23343432.1182809008007.JavaMail.root@wmvirt3> but remember that in modern car stereo nomenclature, 200 watts means 4 times 25 watts, and 25 watts isn't that much considering the extremely low efficiency of modern speakers. BZ I always thought that 4 times 25 equals 100??? Anon From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jun 25 17:04:58 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 16:04:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0706251331o18a2e65bx478655289135acb0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > Didn't Bose or somebody come up with noise canceling Bose has been around since I was a kid, and they've always specialized in silly audio gimmicks. From mark at nashvilletn.org Mon Jun 25 17:10:14 2007 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 18:10:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy References: <23343432.1182809008007.JavaMail.root@wmvirt3> Message-ID: <004401c7b77d$fdf8bb40$0600a8c0@Dell9200> With the guidance of BZ and some others I found a Rockford Fosgate 2 channel 100 watt amplifier on eBay. It has low level inputs for an XM or ipod. It along with a couple of 5x7 speakers in boxes this thing sounds great. As I recall it is rated RMS which would be about 400 watts peak which is how many of the new radios are rated. I have one of the 25 watt per channel radios in one of my other cars and the amp in the Bugeye blows it away. No radio in the dash and it removes easily for shows or those times when I want to enjoy the exhaust note, which is most of the time. With XM and the Ipod there is no issue with ignition or generator noise. Just another way to enjoy your tunes in the car. Mark Nashville http://www.arrestmered.com From mconn2 at bright.net Mon Jun 25 17:42:57 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 19:42:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy References: <23343432.1182809008007.JavaMail.root@wmvirt3> <004401c7b77d$fdf8bb40$0600a8c0@Dell9200> Message-ID: <00c701c7b782$8fab2ce0$b0aeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> Mark, The correct radio for an AN5 is a Radiomobile 20X, 22X or 230R. The first one would be good: it has long and short wave. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy > With the guidance of BZ and some others I found a Rockford Fosgate 2 > channel > 100 watt amplifier on eBay. It has low level inputs for an XM or ipod. > It > along with a couple of 5x7 speakers in boxes this thing sounds great. As > I > recall it is rated RMS which would be about 400 watts peak which is how > many > of the new radios are rated. I have one of the 25 watt per channel radios > in one of my other cars and the amp in the Bugeye blows it away. No radio > in the dash and it removes easily for shows or those times when I want to > enjoy the exhaust note, which is most of the time. With XM and the Ipod > there is no issue with ignition or generator noise. Just another way to > enjoy your tunes in the car. > > Mark > Nashville > http://www.arrestmered.com > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jun 25 18:05:38 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:05:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] xs:PHRASE Re: Tigers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > umm.. "Emma" didn't hold up as well as some other "period" sex > icons.. Raquel has done well.. That's because Emma is real. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jun 25 18:07:31 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:07:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy In-Reply-To: <008f01c7b773$9465f3a0$bd31dae0$@com> Message-ID: > Ask a (male) Miata owner. Where would I find one? Do they have a support group?? From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 19:00:54 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 20:00:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] xs:PHRASE Re: Tigers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0706251800t7358b0f1p8c75f183e09883e6@mail.gmail.com> On 6/25/07, Billy Zoom wrote: > > umm.. "Emma" didn't hold up as well as some other "period" sex > > icons.. Raquel has done well.. > That's because Emma is real. Saw Diana Rigg on TV not long ago. She still looks terrific in her 70s! Wonder what ever happened to Linda Thorson who took over as "Tara King" in 1968. Cheers!! Jim -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jun 25 19:09:08 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:09:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy In-Reply-To: <000e01c7b761$32be6e00$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <000601c7b747$17411250$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <43840a7e0706251229p5a36d779u157979a624bb2a23@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c7b761$32be6e00$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <46806734.6070103@comcast.net> Glen Byrns wrote: > Though a bit > whussy compared to genuine, masochistic Sprite driving, the reduced wear and > tear on the driver might be worth it as well as the gas mileage for such a > long trip. The side benefit would be actually hearing the stereo. Showing our age are we? I'll be going topless and wussy wind blocker less too. But I do have a Sony X-plode sound system in my Sprite that I can hear at 80 mph with a cherry bomb muffler. The 58 has no radio but a stock muffler, my son will be driving that Sprite and I already sent a radio console to the upholsterer to get covered in red to match the interior. He's Ipoding it but he didn't buy a radio yet. And daughter *may* drive the rally Midget if it doesn't sell by next year. If it does, she's driving her A40 which is a hardtop and has a radio/CD player -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jun 25 19:15:24 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:15:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <468068AC.7070404@comcast.net> Billy Zoom wrote: > Bose has been around since I was a kid, and they've always specialized in > silly audio gimmicks. My brother just put Bose speakers in his boat. I have to admit, they sound damn good for outdoor speakers. I have a pair of outdoor speaker rocks and the "letters from buyers" said how amazing they sound outdoors, well mine sound like 2 coffee cans. They didn't print my comment ;) I am seriously thinking about those Bose outdoor jobs. Anybody have any comments? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From pythias at pacifier.com Mon Jun 25 19:20:29 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 18:20:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy In-Reply-To: <004401c7b77d$fdf8bb40$0600a8c0@Dell9200> References: <23343432.1182809008007.JavaMail.root@wmvirt3> <004401c7b77d$fdf8bb40$0600a8c0@Dell9200> Message-ID: <69121676.20070625182029@pacifier.com> Hello , We're (my son and I) will probably just throw a ghetto blaster on the parcel shelf.. that way i don't have to put in the console, cut in speakers, change to an alternator to have enough power, or worry about it getting ripped off when the top is down, or the top slashed to get it when the top is up....... definetly driving the distance with the ragtop UP... 4000 miles in the summer heat of the midwest would be just crazzzzzzy! plus i get 10% to 20% better fuel mileage with the top on! -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jun 25 19:25:23 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 18:25:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy In-Reply-To: <468068AC.7070404@comcast.net> Message-ID: <508125.93196.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Frank Clarici wrote: > those Bose outdoor jobs. > Anybody have any comments? Bose bases their designs on "psychoacoustics". They grate on you after 20 minutes, if that. Look at almost anything in that price range (or 1/2 that) and you'll be better off in the long run. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Mon Jun 25 19:28:03 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 20:28:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy In-Reply-To: <468068AC.7070404@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200706260125.l5Q1PWjC019775@ms-smtp-03.rdc-kc.rr.com> I've had a pair of the 101 "monitor" style for 12 years now and they still work great. They have been moved from car to car to surround sound rears and finally mounted to the deck in the backyard. They might grace the MKIII when I get that far. They are a 1 way speaker with baffle, but really do a great job. Built like a tank. Then there's the old 901's in the living room with wood floors... Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 8:15 PM To: Billy Zoom Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy Billy Zoom wrote: > Bose has been around since I was a kid, and they've always specialized in > silly audio gimmicks. My brother just put Bose speakers in his boat. I have to admit, they sound damn good for outdoor speakers. I have a pair of outdoor speaker rocks and the "letters from buyers" said how amazing they sound outdoors, well mine sound like 2 coffee cans. They didn't print my comment ;) I am seriously thinking about those Bose outdoor jobs. Anybody have any comments? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Jun 25 19:31:26 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 20:31:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy In-Reply-To: <508125.93196.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <468068AC.7070404@comcast.net> <508125.93196.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001d01c7b791$b8bdb5d0$2a392170$@com> "No highs? No lows? Must be Bose" (Common phrase in the pro audio biz...) -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 8:25 PM To: Frank Clarici; Billy Zoom Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy --- Frank Clarici wrote: > those Bose outdoor jobs. > Anybody have any comments? Bose bases their designs on "psychoacoustics". They grate on you after 20 minutes, if that. Look at almost anything in that price range (or 1/2 that) and you'll be better off in the long run. From lbcs at earthlink.net Mon Jun 25 19:32:46 2007 From: lbcs at earthlink.net (Bill Miller (LBCs)) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:32:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy In-Reply-To: <508125.93196.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <468068AC.7070404@comcast.net> <508125.93196.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000001c7b791$e6a2fa50$0200a8c0@bills> I don't know. My Bose Aviation X headset was expensive but worth every penny. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 9:25 PM To: Frank Clarici; Billy Zoom Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy --- Frank Clarici wrote: > those Bose outdoor jobs. > Anybody have any comments? Bose bases their designs on "psychoacoustics". They grate on you after 20 minutes, if that. Look at almost anything in that price range (or 1/2 that) and you'll be better off in the long run. ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ _______________________________________________ lbcs at earthlink.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From type79 at ix.netcom.com Mon Jun 25 19:43:55 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:43:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy Message-ID: <22397834.1182822235695.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I would then try them in the kitchen. jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ -----Original Message----- >From: Frank Clarici >I have a pair of outdoor speaker rocks and the "letters from buyers" >said how amazing they sound outdoors, well mine sound like 2 coffee >cans. From nory1 at adelphia.net Mon Jun 25 19:59:28 2007 From: nory1 at adelphia.net (Nory) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:59:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] xs:PHRASE Re: Tigers In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0706251800t7358b0f1p8c75f183e09883e6@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0706251800t7358b0f1p8c75f183e09883e6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Quite a long list of credits since the days of The Avengers" http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0861771/ On Jun 25, 2007, at 9:00 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > > > Saw Diana Rigg on TV not long ago. She still looks terrific in her > 70s! Wonder what ever happened to Linda Thorson who took over as > "Tara King" in 1968. > > Cheers!! > Jim > -- > The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to > fill the world with fools. > -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) > _______________________________________________ From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Jun 25 20:02:04 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:02:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy In-Reply-To: <000001c7b791$e6a2fa50$0200a8c0@bills> References: <468068AC.7070404@comcast.net> <508125.93196.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <000001c7b791$e6a2fa50$0200a8c0@bills> Message-ID: <002701c7b795$ffe92cb0$ffbb8610$@com> Sennheiser makes a similar deal (phase cancellation technology) for half the price. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Miller (LBCs) Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 8:33 PM To: 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy I don't know. My Bose Aviation X headset was expensive but worth every penny. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 9:25 PM To: Frank Clarici; Billy Zoom Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy --- Frank Clarici wrote: > those Bose outdoor jobs. > Anybody have any comments? Bose bases their designs on "psychoacoustics". They grate on you after 20 minutes, if that. Look at almost anything in that price range (or 1/2 that) and you'll be better off in the long run. From thcollin at mtu.edu Mon Jun 25 20:05:57 2007 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 22:05:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tire safety Message-ID: <60313l$a1ubd@email.mtu.edu> Just saw an article about tire safety issues with Chinese tires. Here's a line or two from the Wall Street Journal. China-Made Tires Are Subject Of Lawsuit After Fatal Accident By TIMOTHY AEPPEL June 25, 2007 7:05 p.m. A recent lawsuit arising from a fatal auto accident in Pennsylvania is pointing toward another potentially hazardous Chinese import, this time tires. There could be about a million bad tires out there. Better check your fleet. Read the WSJ or go to Autoblog.com for the story. Tim Collins From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 20:49:28 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 20:49:28 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Tigers In-Reply-To: <006401c7b765$44b21590$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <006401c7b765$44b21590$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706251949v41aa475clde019198c1b1cf75@mail.gmail.com> Or The Saint, didn't he drive a Tiger? On 6/25/07, David Lieb wrote: > > > Here in England there are Alpine Tigers but also Avenger Tigers. > > Would that be Emma Peale's current ride? From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 20:50:59 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 20:50:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] xs:PHRASE Re: Tigers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706251950g70cac155rc89c170f260af165@mail.gmail.com> Sophia Loren Diane Cannon Good lookin coots. From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jun 25 20:51:44 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 22:51:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tigers In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706251949v41aa475clde019198c1b1cf75@mail.gmail.com> References: <006401c7b765$44b21590$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <5f00d9910706251949v41aa475clde019198c1b1cf75@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46807F40.4040108@comcast.net> derf wrote: > Or The Saint, didn't he drive a Tiger? He drove a Volvo P1800 -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jun 25 20:57:03 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:57:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tigers References: <006401c7b765$44b21590$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <5f00d9910706251949v41aa475clde019198c1b1cf75@mail.gmail.com> <46807F40.4040108@comcast.net> Message-ID: <10af01c7b79d$aced74a0$0401a8c0@midget> >> Or The Saint, didn't he drive a Tiger? > He drove a Volvo P1800 At least on the TV show. In the books he had more exotic stuff. From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 21:05:51 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:05:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy In-Reply-To: <001d01c7b791$b8bdb5d0$2a392170$@com> References: <468068AC.7070404@comcast.net> <508125.93196.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001d01c7b791$b8bdb5d0$2a392170$@com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706252005j2d49a025y7ea3a1b48a3590f1@mail.gmail.com> On 6/25/07, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > > "No highs? No lows? Must be Bose" > > (Common phrase in the pro audio biz...) > That's true. I am in the pro audio biz. Bose are a joke to pro audio folks. I used to be a Klipsch snob, and dealer, until they sold out like everyone else. I had a Klipsch rep try to tell me how flat the frequency response of a speaker array was while we were both looking at my real-time analyzer. The response curve looked like the Alps. JBL is the standard brand for motion picture exhibition. Bose dabbled in that market but couldn't make anything that sounded good. Wattage ratings don't mean a hill of beans. Fosgate underrates their stuff. 25 watts of Fosgate power is like 200 watts of some other makers. A 50 watt Marshall guitar stack is a loud thing. It is like tread ratings on tires: Everyone puts a number but company A's numbers don't have any relation to company B's numbers. They are not at all relative. From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 21:09:59 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:09:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Tigers In-Reply-To: <10af01c7b79d$aced74a0$0401a8c0@midget> References: <006401c7b765$44b21590$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <5f00d9910706251949v41aa475clde019198c1b1cf75@mail.gmail.com> <46807F40.4040108@comcast.net> <10af01c7b79d$aced74a0$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706252009k3ee5c54fm5cf97d313014b49@mail.gmail.com> OH, maybe Maxwell Smart, then? OOh, Barbara Feldon was in that one. 99. On 6/25/07, David Lieb wrote: > > >> Or The Saint, didn't he drive a Tiger? > > > He drove a Volvo P1800 From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jun 25 21:15:24 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 20:15:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Tigers In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706252009k3ee5c54fm5cf97d313014b49@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <166680.23541.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- derf wrote: > OOh, Barbara Feldon was in that one. 99. Emma Peel in the "Touch of Brimstone" episode as the Queen of Sin, 1966. Nothing even comes close: http://www.staylace.com/films/indexfiles/a/avengers.jpg Plus she drove an Elan. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 21:17:03 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:17:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Tigers In-Reply-To: <166680.23541.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <5f00d9910706252009k3ee5c54fm5cf97d313014b49@mail.gmail.com> <166680.23541.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706252017n45c03e19x5d33e31dcbedf036@mail.gmail.com> I like Honor Blackmon in that show, and any other show she was in. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 22:04:29 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 23:04:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] xs:PHRASE Re: Tigers In-Reply-To: References: <43840a7e0706251800t7358b0f1p8c75f183e09883e6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0706252104v2c024ab6qca7eec8d1d0768c0@mail.gmail.com> Thanks, Nory. Long list, its true but nothing particularly stellar since Avengers. I note the only award and nomination on her resume were long ago and for her Tara King role... Ah well.... Not everyone can be Paris Hilton, can they? ;-) Cheers!! Jim On 6/25/07, Nory wrote: > Quite a long list of credits since the days of The Avengers" > > http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0861771/ > > > On Jun 25, 2007, at 9:00 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > > > > > > > Saw Diana Rigg on TV not long ago. She still looks terrific in her > > 70s! Wonder what ever happened to Linda Thorson who took over as > > "Tara King" in 1968. > > > > Cheers!! > > Jim > > -- > > The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to > > fill the world with fools. > > -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) > > _______________________________________________ > > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 22:21:38 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 23:21:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy In-Reply-To: <508125.93196.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <468068AC.7070404@comcast.net> <508125.93196.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0706252121s6b48df01ic35093922a8bf7d7@mail.gmail.com> Frank Clarici wrote: > > Anybody have any comments? Yeah, but I don't wanna get thrown off the list... Cheers!! Jim -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From hal at katemuir.com Mon Jun 25 23:59:03 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 22:59:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] xs:PHRASE Re: Tigers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thorson, is that a kind of LSD? Hal -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Nory Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 6:59 PM To: Jim Johnson Cc: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] xs:PHRASE Re: Tigers Quite a long list of credits since the days of The Avengers" http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0861771/ On Jun 25, 2007, at 9:00 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > > > Saw Diana Rigg on TV not long ago. She still looks terrific in her > 70s! Wonder what ever happened to Linda Thorson who took over as > "Tara King" in 1968. > > Cheers!! > Jim > -- > The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to > fill the world with fools. > -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ h From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Mon Jun 25 23:59:34 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 22:59:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Petersen Auto Museum - New Display - Message-ID: <427554.85233.qm@web38913.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Group, I thought i would pass this information on the Petersen Auto Museum - New Display. If you are in the LA area you should put a trip to Peterson on your agenda. They always have a great display of cars. The place was recently remodeled and they did a very nice job. Be sure to read the foot note at the bottom below the Email from Ed who is the owner of a 1948 Playboy on display....Vigil Vigil, Yesterday I went up to LA to the Petersen Auto Museum to see their eight month long exhibit called "Microcars -- the Minimum in Motoring." There are about 40 really cool and rare Microcars there to see, many from the collection of Bruce Weiner (1). Zundapp Janus, Isetta, Mazda, Velorex, Goggos, etc., etc. Of course, make sure you also check out the really cool 1948 Playboy car in the exhibit as well! I know the owner personally! Ha Ha. Seriously, I loaned my 1948 Playboy to them for the duration of the show. The display is really nice. Until next February 08: http://www.petersen.org/default.cfm?docid=1057 Cheers! Ed Howard Orange County, CA 1948 Playboy #34 1957 BMW Isetta Bubble Window Z-molding 1964 Amphicar 1967 Sunbeam Alpine (1) For those who do not know of Bruce. He has a Microcar Museum in Georgia that is one of the best in the world. He has a web site that you need several hours to see and read about all the cars. He had the funds to do it right being the owner of Double Bubble Bubble Gum till last year. He bought a Microcar Museum in Germany and imported all the stock. He kept the best and the very rare cars. Then sold off the rest. He has been adding to the collection on a regular basis. So it just keeps getting better every year. Link: >>>> http://www.microcarmuseum.com/ That's all Folks ! --------------------------------- Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Tue Jun 26 00:25:03 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 23:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Stereo / Bose In-Reply-To: <468068AC.7070404@comcast.net> Message-ID: <319795.56193.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Frank, The 07 Impala my wife bought has the Bose speakers. They sound great. I was so impressed I have started looking for a crashed Impala to pull the speakers. I think there is six or eight speakers. Some are very small. I have a friend with the Bose home theater set up that sounds very good too. I do not think you can go wrong with Bose. I am wondering if any one has looked in to a remote AM/FM/CD player that could be installed in the back where it is not in sight. This with a inside the fender aerial i think would be the hot set up with the Bose speakers. Vigil Frank Clarici wrote: Billy Zoom wrote: > Bose has been around since I was a kid, and they've always specialized in > silly audio gimmicks. My brother just put Bose speakers in his boat. I have to admit, they sound damn good for outdoor speakers. I have a pair of outdoor speaker rocks and the "letters from buyers" said how amazing they sound outdoors, well mine sound like 2 coffee cans. They didn't print my comment ;) I am seriously thinking about those Bose outdoor jobs. Anybody have any comments? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ _______________________________________________ uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search. From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net Tue Jun 26 01:43:26 2007 From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (Richard Feibusch) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 23:43:26 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] The Last Waltz - Palo Alto British Meet's Final Year Message-ID: A message to all West Coast/California people on this list The Last Waltz - Palo Alto British Meet's Final Year Dear Readers, It is with great regret that I must report that this year will be the last for the 30-year-old Palo Alto British Car Meet. The park is going to be reconstructed into an emergency reservoir for Palo Alto and rebuilt using astroturf on the fields. No more car shows as oil and gas will damage the new surface. Park and Rec officials have offered the city streets as an alternative, to be held in conjunction with other special events like art & craft shows. While we appreciate the offers, this is not what we envisioned three dacades ago, a reasonably priced, all British concours, that would serve as a convention to not only bring enthusiasts, publications, local shops and national parts suppliers together, but to showcase our automotive passion to newcomers and enthusiasts from other corners of the hobby. This year will be our last at El Camino Park in Palo Alto. We are planning the same show that you all have come to expect - lawn, jazz coordinated by musical director Herb Gibson, proper British breakfasts and lunches by Dennis Bedford and his The Ministry Of Food. Prizes in a bunch of classes, club displays and specialty vendors - plans are underway to bring back the Saturday Swap Meet one more time and our Saturday tour to the coast will be better than ever. Come join us for the last waltz at El Camino Park on September 8th & 9th, 2007 We are already looking for a new venue for 2008 and we will keep you posted in The British Car Network. We would like to thank all of you, especially the marque clubs, both in LA, where we lost our park a few years ago, and in the San Francisco Bay Area, for 30 years of enthusiastic support and all of the fun and good cheer that you have brought to these meets and our hobby in general. As one of the first in the US, we know that we sparked a movement that spread all over the country and our offspring can be seen in all corners of the nation. Long live the British car and the people who cherish them ......... Best, Rick Feibusch, If you would like to join the British Car Network and know about all of the California British car events and stories of British Automotive intrest, email: , and ask to be put on the list - This list is privately held, non-commercial and not available to spammers. ***************************************************** From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net Tue Jun 26 01:44:00 2007 From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (Richard Feibusch) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 23:44:00 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Palo Alto British Car Meet 2007 Message-ID: ***************************************************** THE 2007 PALO ALTO BRITISH CAR MEET El Camino Park - Just Across From Stanford Center September Eighth & Ninth - 9:00AM - 5:00PM Join us for the most historic British automotive lawn event in California. 400 quirky, classic, and thoroughly lovable British cars are once again expected to grace the field at El Camino Park for the 29th Annual Palo Alto British Car Meet. SUNDAY CAR SHOW - SEPTEMBER 9th Join your British car friends for a smashing day at the park. Don't have a show car? Don't worry! Daily drivers, vintage racers, street rods & works-in-progress are as welcome as Concours quality restorations. British food, jazz, and more fun than you'll be able to tolerate! This year there will be individual marque awards in a minimum of 15 classes. There is no preregistration and all entrants will receive a commemorative dash plaque. Cars will be placed on the field starting at about 9:00AM, and the fun goes on all day. The registration fee is $25 per car at the gate. Joining us again this year will be the cool little cars from around the world in the Arcane Auto Society. Spectators attend for free. SATURDAY BACKROAD TOUR TO THE SEA - SEPTEMBER 8th The British Car Meet TOUR TO THE SEA starts at El Camino Park in Palo Alto - the same place as the Sunday Car Show. This is a no-cost option for people who like to drive their cars as well as show 'em. We will be sending cars off between 8:30 and 10:30AM. A map will be provided. The tour ends at Cameron's Pub in Half Moon Bay where we will be kicking tyres and telling tall tales well into the afternoon. SATURDAY SWAP MEET - SEPTEMBER 8th We are trying to bring back this event this year and have been contacted by a number of marque clubs that might be willing to organize and administrate the swap meet - our staff is stretched with the tour and the show - more details as they become available ...... DIRECTIONS TO EL CAMINO PARK: El Camino Park is located on the El Camino, just north of University Ave, opposite Stanford Center. From 101 take University Ave. west, go under the Alma Street overpass, and turn right onto the El Camino Real. From 280, take the Sandhill Road Exit east and turn right on the El Camino, stay to the right to the University Ave exit, turn left at the overpass, then left again back onto the El Camino heading north. PLEASE, DO NOT PARK TRAILERS IN THE STANFORD CENTER PARKING LOT! Trailer parking will be available on-site on the south field baseball diamond. Call for information: 310-392-6605 e-mail: ************************************************* From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jun 26 00:49:51 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 00:49:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] xs:PHRASE Re: Tigers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706252349s2df20485l5eada0f14f57f288@mail.gmail.com> Thorson, is that a kind of LSD? > Hal > Yes, that's the brown acid they were talking about at Woodstock: "Don't take the brown acid. The brown acid is bad." Judging from some lister's posts, they took some and are still suffering the effects. Symptoms include homophobia and homo fixation. Freud suggests suppressed homosexuality might be the cause. From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jun 26 01:08:21 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 01:08:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Stereo / Bose In-Reply-To: <319795.56193.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <468068AC.7070404@comcast.net> <319795.56193.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706260008j5fe904dfv4f3c05283146f31@mail.gmail.com> A special caveat to my trashing of Bose junk: If you are pleased with the sound and the price paid, then maybe they are the right choice for you. While Bose may not be the best sounding stuff and they are usually overpriced, there is no definitive low- to mid-priced stuff that is clearly better for the price. It is all junk and marketing hype. The surrounds in my den are little KLH bookshelf units. KLH is utter, total junk. But, for the price ($10 shipped on ebay) they sound very good. The LCR channels are Klipsch Heresys and the sub is a custom Total Audio unit. The processor is a Sony STR, which is also on the very low end of the spectrum <$200 and is considered junk by many pro audio folks. But, considering I have a screen size of 68X86 and less than $2500 spent on the whole package, including projector, I think my home theatre is fabulous. The crappy little KLH surrounds do their job well. Cheers, Derf From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jun 26 01:28:12 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 02:28:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] xs:PHRASE Re: Tigers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0706260028i1c0a43f7mde1496c4796b620@mail.gmail.com> If you mean Languid Sexy Dame. On 6/26/07, Hal Faulkner wrote: > Thorson, is that a kind of LSD? > Hal From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Tue Jun 26 03:04:27 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 02:04:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Stereo / Bose In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706260008j5fe904dfv4f3c05283146f31@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <502295.92348.qm@web38915.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I do not know that much about speakers. But the ones i listen to sounded ok. The ones in the wifes car sound great to me and i figure if i pull them out of wreak they should be cheap. Most of the ones i have seen mentioned are not much if any cheaper then the Bose. In fact i do see one that i have seen for more. But i feel the same way. I am not building a theater just some thing to hear some music and the news. I know some people go a lot further. And if that makes them happy i am happy for them. Vigil derf wrote: A special caveat to my trashing of Bose junk: If you are pleased with the sound and the price paid, then maybe they are the right choice for you. While Bose may not be the best sounding stuff and they are usually overpriced, there is no definitive low- to mid-priced stuff that is clearly better for the price. It is all junk and marketing hype. The surrounds in my den are little KLH bookshelf units. KLH is utter, total junk. But, for the price ($10 shipped on ebay) they sound very good. The LCR channels are Klipsch Heresys and the sub is a custom Total Audio unit. The processor is a Sony STR, which is also on the very low end of the spectrum <$200 and is considered junk by many pro audio folks. But, considering I have a screen size of 68X86 and less than $2500 spent on the whole package, including projector, I think my home theatre is fabulous. The crappy little KLH surrounds do their job well. Cheers, Derf _______________________________________________ uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. From kentmclean at comcast.net Tue Jun 26 03:31:50 2007 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 05:31:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Stereo / Bose In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4680DD06.1090107@comcast.net> Vigil wrote: > I do not think you can go wrong with Bose. Audi issued a recall for the Bose speakers on the early V8s, as capacitors leaked, causing short circuits and fires. It's not nice when your Bose stereo burns your car to the ground. YMMV. -- Kent '56 100 BN2 a couple of Audi wagons From cciaffone at verizon.net Tue Jun 26 05:15:24 2007 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 07:15:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Stereo / Bose In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706260008j5fe904dfv4f3c05283146f31@mail.gmail.com> References: <468068AC.7070404@comcast.net> <319795.56193.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5f00d9910706260008j5fe904dfv4f3c05283146f31@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4680F54C.4070902@verizon.net> I'm still running a set of four AR-3ax speakers from the 60's. Been re-coned twice. Nice bass response, but somewhat inefficient. chuck derf wrote: > A special caveat to my trashing of Bose junk: > If you are pleased with the sound and the price paid, then maybe they are > the right choice for you. > While Bose may not be the best sounding stuff and they are usually > overpriced, there is no definitive low- to mid-priced stuff that is clearly > better for the price. It is all junk and marketing hype. > The surrounds in my den are little KLH bookshelf units. From type79 at ix.netcom.com Tue Jun 26 05:15:21 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 07:15:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Stereo / Bose Message-ID: <3107551.1182856521354.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> It's called NHT. jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ "No Highs, No Lows? Must be Bose." -----Original Message----- > >fred wrote: >> While Bose may not be the best sounding stuff and they are usually >> overpriced, there is no definitive low- to mid-priced stuff that is clearly >> better for the price. From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Jun 26 05:56:36 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 06:56:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tigers In-Reply-To: <166680.23541.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <5f00d9910706252009k3ee5c54fm5cf97d313014b49@mail.gmail.com> <166680.23541.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002501c7b7e9$0e6806f0$2b3814d0$@com> Emma Peel dressed in leather was a sight to behold. (Miata owners disregard this, please). -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 10:15 PM To: derf; David Lieb Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tigers --- derf wrote: > OOh, Barbara Feldon was in that one. 99. Emma Peel in the "Touch of Brimstone" episode as the Queen of Sin, 1966. Nothing even comes close: http://www.staylace.com/films/indexfiles/a/avengers.jpg Plus she drove an Elan. Ron From gjbranch at comcast.net Tue Jun 26 05:57:34 2007 From: gjbranch at comcast.net (Geoff Branch) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 07:57:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tigers References: <5f00d9910706252009k3ee5c54fm5cf97d313014b49@mail.gmail.com><166680.23541.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <002501c7b7e9$0e6806f0$2b3814d0$@com> Message-ID: <00a401c7b7e9$30618970$0301a8c0@DELL> I have a cat named "Mrs. Peel". Never dressed her up in leather though......Hmmmmm..... Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: "'Ron Soave'" ; "'derf'" ; "'David Lieb'" Cc: "'Spridgets'" Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 7:56 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tigers > Emma Peel dressed in leather was a sight to behold. > (Miata owners disregard this, please). From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jun 26 06:40:50 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 8:40:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tigers Message-ID: <20070626124050.UJOE6941.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> that would be Blackman for anyone who has to google to figure out who they are. > From: derf > > I like Honor Blackmon in that show, and any other show she was in. From pythias at pacifier.com Tue Jun 26 06:50:26 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 05:50:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706252005j2d49a025y7ea3a1b48a3590f1@mail.gmail.com> References: <468068AC.7070404@comcast.net> <508125.93196.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001d01c7b791$b8bdb5d0$2a392170$@com> <5f00d9910706252005j2d49a025y7ea3a1b48a3590f1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <854831765.20070626055026@pacifier.com> Hello derf, i bought a pair of Klipsch Heresy speakers back in '76.. in '86 i lost a tweeter..so i called 'em up on the phone... they asked "do you want the whole tweeter, or do you just need the driver coil?"... i bought the coil with wires attached, took the screws out, removed the back removed the tweeter, took THAT apart and replaced the coil, put it all back together and they STILL work to this day.... how many speaker companies would sell you the parts to fix their stuff, let alone have made them so that you CAN?????? Bose speakers CAN sound good if you're willing to turn them up to HIGH VOLUME, but for nice all around sound, I too opt for Klipsch...... at least the ones from when PWK was alive.. Heresy, Cornwall, LaScalla, Klipschorn, (would love a pair of those!!!!)... -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jun 26 06:58:33 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 8:58:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] xs:PHRASE Re: Tigers Message-ID: <20070626125833.UMXL6941.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Hal! Please do find out what type of limited slip is involved there and get back to us, will ya'? :) RD > From: "Hal Faulkner" > > Thorson, is that a kind of LSD? > Hal > > -----Original Message----- > On Jun 25, 2007, at 9:00 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > > > Wonder what ever happened to Linda Thorson who took over as > > "Tara King" in 1968. > > > > Cheers!! > > Jim From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Jun 26 08:36:58 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 09:36:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] xs:PHRASE Re: Tigers In-Reply-To: <20070626125833.UMXL6941.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20070626125833.UMXL6941.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: A "limited slip" rear end? Oh boy, I can see where this is going..... On 6/26/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > Hal! > > Please do find out what type of limited slip is involved there and get back to us, will ya'? :) > > RD > > > From: "Hal Faulkner" > > > > Thorson, is that a kind of LSD? > > Hal > > > > -----Original Message----- > > On Jun 25, 2007, at 9:00 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > > > > > Wonder what ever happened to Linda Thorson who took over as > > > "Tara King" in 1968. > > > > > > Cheers!! From type79 at ix.netcom.com Tue Jun 26 08:59:08 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 10:59:08 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [Spridgets] Stereo / Bose Message-ID: <30827160.1182869948944.JavaMail.root@elwamui-wigeon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Anyone ever give you free tires? jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ -----Original Message----- >>fred wrote: > KLH is utter, total junk. But, for the price ($10 shipped on ebay) they sound very good. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jun 26 09:20:36 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:20:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Petersen Auto Museum - New Display - Message-ID: <20070626152036.VYMW6941.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Vigil! It's your fault that I started surfing!! This post made me think of the Moggie trike and I googled that and the first link was this http://www.kitcarlist.com/ and there's an awful lot of nice pics there. RD > From: > > Group, > > I thought i would pass this information on the Petersen Auto Museum - New Display. If you are in the LA area you should put a trip to Peterson on your agenda. They always have a great display of cars. The place was recently remodeled and they did a very nice job. Be sure to read the foot note at the bottom below the Email from Ed who is the owner of a 1948 Playboy on display....Vigil > > Vigil, > > Yesterday I went up to LA to the Petersen Auto Museum to see their > eight month long exhibit called "Microcars -- the Minimum in Motoring." From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Jun 26 09:45:49 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 10:45:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Stereo / Bose In-Reply-To: <4680F54C.4070902@verizon.net> References: <468068AC.7070404@comcast.net> <319795.56193.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5f00d9910706260008j5fe904dfv4f3c05283146f31@mail.gmail.com> <4680F54C.4070902@verizon.net> Message-ID: Me too.. no re-coning yet, actually AR -3a's.. nice for the home TV.. Lester . Im sure that my father wonders to this day what happened to those speakers.. On Jun 26, 2007, at 6:15 AM, chuck wrote: > I'm still running a set of four AR-3ax speakers from the 60's. Been > re-coned twice. Nice bass response, but somewhat inefficient. > > chuck > > derf wrote: >> A special caveat to my trashing of Bose junk: >> If you are pleased with the sound and the price paid, then maybe >> they are >> the right choice for you. >> While Bose may not be the best sounding stuff and they are usually >> overpriced, there is no definitive low- to mid-priced stuff that >> is clearly >> better for the price. It is all junk and marketing hype. >> The surrounds in my den are little KLH bookshelf units. > _______________________________________________ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Jun 26 10:32:40 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 09:32:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Stereo / Bose In-Reply-To: <4680F54C.4070902@verizon.net> Message-ID: > running a set of four AR-3ax speakers from the 60's. Those are fantastic speakers. I have 7 sets of AR-4x's, including a pair in a road case that I take to studios because I won't mix on anything else. They blow away almost all modern studio monitors. BZ From hal at katemuir.com Tue Jun 26 10:37:13 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 09:37:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] xs:PHRASE Re: Tigers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Rumor has it that all the fasteners are Pozidriv... Hal -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Brad Fornal Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 7:37 AM To: Robert Duquette Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] xs:PHRASE Re: Tigers A "limited slip" rear end? Oh boy, I can see where this is going..... On 6/26/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > Hal! > > Please do find out what type of limited slip is involved there and get back to us, will ya'? :) > > RD > > > From: "Hal Faulkner" > > > > Thorson, is that a kind of LSD? > > Hal > > > > -----Original Message----- > > On Jun 25, 2007, at 9:00 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > > > > > Wonder what ever happened to Linda Thorson who took over as > > > "Tara King" in 1968. > > > > > > Cheers!! _______________________________________________ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jun 26 10:55:59 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 12:55:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] xs:PHRASE Re: Tigers Message-ID: <20070626165559.WTAN6941.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> But, I would be willing to bet that a Robert's son would be able to loosen them up. Robert > From: "Hal Faulkner" > Rumor has it that all the fasteners are Pozidriv... > Hal > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Brad Fornal > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 7:37 AM > To: Robert Duquette > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] xs:PHRASE Re: Tigers > > > A "limited slip" rear end? > Oh boy, I can see where this is going..... > > On 6/26/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > > Hal! > > > > Please do find out what type of limited slip is involved there and get > back to us, will ya'? :) > > > > RD > > > > > From: "Hal Faulkner" > > > > > > Thorson, is that a kind of LSD? > > > Hal > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > On Jun 25, 2007, at 9:00 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > > > > > > > Wonder what ever happened to Linda Thorson who took over as > > > > "Tara King" in 1968. > > > > > > > > Cheers!! > _______________________________________________ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jun 26 10:57:18 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:57:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Warning!! LBC Content!! Delete Now!! Message-ID: <43840a7e0706260957p9423c13j7cb257dbdd20463e@mail.gmail.com> And now for something completely different.... I have a wiring anomaly on the 1968 Midget. In doing out the brakes, I am replacing the brake failure switch. The old one got hammered somewhere along the line by somebody years ago. When the new switch came in, it has two pins on it. The old one has only one pin and there is only one wire in the harness that goes to the switch. I poured over all the wiring diagrams in the book but couldn't find one with a single wire. They all have two! Then I looked at my nice Prospero's diagram and it shows just one! So..... will the two pin switch (nobody seems to have a single pin switch) work? Do I have to short one of the pins to ground? Oh! For reference sake, my compensator valve is the "H" shaped one, not the "X" shaped one... We now return you to your regularly scheduled flood of drivel emails.... Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jun 26 11:00:05 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:00:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Stereo / Bose In-Reply-To: <319795.56193.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <319795.56193.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46814615.5060403@comcast.net> uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com wrote: > *I am wondering if any one has looked in to a remote AM/FM/CD player > that could be installed in the back where it is not in sight. This with > a inside the fender aerial i think would be the hot set up with the Bose > speakers.* I made a panel to house 2 speakers and an "inside" antenna for the back ledge on the Sprite. It runs over those 2 curved frame rails and gives enough room for speakers and the antenna. I have a Radio/tape player in a stock Midget console but I have also seen a radio stuck in the back panel. That would involve cutting it though. The speakers and antenna set up I made requires no cutting and it smooths out the rear ledge. It's hard to tell anything was done. It's carpeted to match. I do have to upgrade to a CD player, I wonder it it'll fit in the console? I guess I'll have to buy some CDS too ;) Hey I still have a working 8 track player with tapes. Not to mention my recently repaired 1940s RCA 45 rpm record player that Billy Zoom made good as new. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jun 26 11:01:22 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:01:22 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Warning!! LBC Content!! Delete Now!! In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0706260957p9423c13j7cb257dbdd20463e@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0706260957p9423c13j7cb257dbdd20463e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706261001j5df9d504tef4b3a77004deb4f@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Yes, wire one side of a two pin switch to ground to effectively make it act like a one wire switch. Cheers, Derf From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Jun 26 11:01:26 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 12:01:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Warning!! LBC Content!! Delete Now!! In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0706260957p9423c13j7cb257dbdd20463e@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0706260957p9423c13j7cb257dbdd20463e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <604C327F-5899-4BA4-AB71-86F76E90E1FA@comcast.net> .. sounds simple, instead of having a switch that connects a hot wire all that you have to do is completely reverse the wiring to your brakes so that it now connects a ground wire.. heh.. Lester On Jun 26, 2007, at 11:57 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > And now for something completely different.... > > I have a wiring anomaly on the 1968 Midget. In doing out the brakes, > I am replacing the brake failure switch. The old one got hammered > somewhere along the line by somebody years ago. When the new switch > came in, it has two pins on it. The old one has only one pin and there > is only one wire in the harness that goes to the switch. I poured over > all the wiring diagrams in the book but couldn't find one with a > single wire. They all have two! Then I looked at my nice Prospero's > diagram and it shows just one! > > So..... will the two pin switch (nobody seems to have a single pin > switch) work? Do I have to short one of the pins to ground? Oh! For > reference sake, my compensator valve is the "H" shaped one, not the > "X" shaped one... > > We now return you to your regularly scheduled flood of drivel > emails.... > > Cheers!! > Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City > -- > The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to > fill the world with fools. > -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) > _______________________________________________ From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jun 26 11:04:27 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:04:27 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Warning!! LBC Content!! Delete Now!! In-Reply-To: <604C327F-5899-4BA4-AB71-86F76E90E1FA@comcast.net> References: <43840a7e0706260957p9423c13j7cb257dbdd20463e@mail.gmail.com> <604C327F-5899-4BA4-AB71-86F76E90E1FA@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706261004s2aaf39aagb5dcd714f50843e5@mail.gmail.com> On 6/26/07, oldsaabguy wrote: > > .. sounds simple, instead of having a switch that connects a hot wire > all that you have to do is completely reverse the wiring to your > brakes so that it now connects a ground wire.. > > heh.. > > Lester > > It is the failure switch he's working on, not the brake light switch. From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jun 26 11:07:24 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:07:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Warning!! LBC Content!! Delete Now!! In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0706260957p9423c13j7cb257dbdd20463e@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0706260957p9423c13j7cb257dbdd20463e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706261007g1970e2e6s82a76b3857a20273@mail.gmail.com> Also, I don't think that switch on the brake failure thing is a regular switch. I think there is a metal plunger in there that moves when the brake pressure is uneven. That plunger grounds the wire, causing the warning light to come on. From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jun 26 11:10:59 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:10:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Warning!! LBC Content!! Delete Now!! In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0706260957p9423c13j7cb257dbdd20463e@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0706260957p9423c13j7cb257dbdd20463e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706261010h5c488d4dn6368682e3d359fb3@mail.gmail.com> Yeah, it sounds like you got a brake light switch, (some were hydraulically operated) when you wanted that warning light device. Get in touch with Peter C and see if that part is available. Paul A and Ed at JB can also source it for you. You should have a mechanical brake light switch on the pedal box or a hydraulic switch somewhere on the lines. The one wire thing on the 4 way hydraulic block is for the failure indicator light. Cheers, Derf From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU Tue Jun 26 11:12:19 2007 From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:12:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Parts interchangeability Message-ID: How interchangeable are parts through the late year models eg - '75-'79 on things like front/rear end parts etc? How about sheet metal? thanks! -m From peter at nosimport.com Tue Jun 26 11:20:08 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 12:20:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Warning!! LBC Content!! Delete Now!! In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706261010h5c488d4dn6368682e3d359fb3@mail.gmail.co m> References: <43840a7e0706260957p9423c13j7cb257dbdd20463e@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910706261010h5c488d4dn6368682e3d359fb3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070626121546.03468a30@nosimport.com> Derf, Actually, he got the 2 wire PWDA switch from me. I can't find reference to a 1 wire as a separate part (ie not part of the whole freaking hydraulic lump) The dash warning switch/light assembly is different, and wired differently too. Only on these early cars. I doubt it is as simple as grounding the other terminal. One of you electrical wizards can figure it out using the 2 different wiring diagrams for 68, and 69 onwards. .... I mean gee, it ain't speaker scrience! Peter C == At 12:10 PM 6/26/2007, derf wrote: >Yeah, it sounds like you got a brake light switch, (some were hydraulically >operated) when you wanted that warning light device. Get in touch with >Peter C and see if that part is available. Paul A and Ed at JB can also >source it for you. >You should have a mechanical brake light switch on the pedal box or a >hydraulic switch somewhere on the lines. The one wire thing on the 4 way >hydraulic block is for the failure indicator light. >Cheers, >Derf From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU Tue Jun 26 11:35:30 2007 From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:35:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 1, Issue 111 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I just installed a Pioneer am/fm/cd/mp3/aux/satellite ready unit. It does not fit in the console - it is was too wide by about 1/8 an inch and too deep by about 1/2 inch - I trimmed the console edges to take the radio and added shims to remount the console...the problem is inserting CDs - can only be done in 2nd and 4th. This winter I plan on fab'ing a new console, moving the radio up to where the (unused) speaker currently sits. -m On Jun 26, 2007, at 1:01 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > I do have to upgrade to a CD player, I wonder it it'll fit in the > console? I guess I'll have to buy some CDS too ;) From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Jun 26 11:40:40 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 12:40:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Warning!! LBC Content!! Delete Now!! In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706261004s2aaf39aagb5dcd714f50843e5@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0706260957p9423c13j7cb257dbdd20463e@mail.gmail.com> <604C327F-5899-4BA4-AB71-86F76E90E1FA@comcast.net> <5f00d9910706261004s2aaf39aagb5dcd714f50843e5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <12B87EC7-A1DB-47DF-B634-42E54005EF6E@comcast.net> DOH! On Jun 26, 2007, at 12:04 PM, derf wrote: > > > On 6/26/07, oldsaabguy wrote: > .. sounds simple, instead of having a switch that connects a hot wire > all that you have to do is completely reverse the wiring to your > brakes so that it now connects a ground wire.. > > heh.. > > Lester > > > > It is the failure switch he's working on, not the brake light switch. From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jun 26 11:41:50 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:41:50 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Parts interchangeability In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706261041k4a429a5bj7f612f39207c9a41@mail.gmail.com> Interchangeability is good on most things from 62-79. Bugeye rear end is configured differently but the pumpkin will swap. Front fenders have different signal light positions. 75-79 parts are interchangeable. You can convert from rubber bumper to chrome bumper of vice versa(why?) but it isn't easy. What specific parts are you looking to interchange and between what years? From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU Tue Jun 26 11:42:08 2007 From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:42:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Stereo / Bose References: Message-ID: <095BA48E-5941-4418-83F3-28CE9E0A6778@dartmouth.edu> Ugh... Sorry about the subject line snafu (and bandwidth) I hate it when I do that. I suppose I could add that I bet fit will be a problem with most new radios as they dimensionally spec to the DIN installation. -m Begin forwarded message: > I just installed a Pioneer am/fm/cd/mp3/aux/satellite ready unit. > > It does not fit in the console - it is was too wide by about 1/8 an > inch and too deep by about 1/2 inch - I trimmed the console edges > to take the radio and added shims to remount the console...the > problem is inserting CDs - can only be done in 2nd and 4th. > > This winter I plan on fab'ing a new console, moving the radio up to > where the (unused) speaker currently sits. > > -m > > On Jun 26, 2007, at 1:01 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > >> I do have to upgrade to a CD player, I wonder it it'll fit in the >> console? I guess I'll have to buy some CDS too ;) From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jun 26 11:43:55 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:43:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Radio console Message-ID: <5f00d9910706261043w3d34bafcn5825f697115bce31@mail.gmail.com> In the past I have put radios in the top area of the radio console, where the speaker grill is. Then you can put CDs and tapes in more easily. It takes some fabbing, but it can be done. From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jun 26 11:45:34 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:45:34 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Warning!! LBC Content!! Delete Now!! In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070626121546.03468a30@nosimport.com> References: <43840a7e0706260957p9423c13j7cb257dbdd20463e@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910706261010h5c488d4dn6368682e3d359fb3@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070626121546.03468a30@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706261045g12ddf27ai133d0b3c166f7862@mail.gmail.com> IIRC, the warning light thing is more of a contact that just touches the metal plunger when the system gets out of balance. From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jun 26 12:00:55 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 12:00:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Warning!! LBC Content!! Delete Now!! In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0706260957p9423c13j7cb257dbdd20463e@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0706260957p9423c13j7cb257dbdd20463e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706261100u3e296aactd8aea6041008d10c@mail.gmail.com> I looked in the pdf manual I have and while it has a diagram of the pressure warning system, it doesn't show the switch as either one- or two-wire. It seems as though there were both one- and two-wire setups, depending on how the harness is configured with regard to the dash mounted warning light test switch, if you have one. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jun 26 12:14:18 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:14:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Warning!! LBC Content!! Delete Now!! References: <43840a7e0706260957p9423c13j7cb257dbdd20463e@mail.gmail.com><5f00d9910706261010h5c488d4dn6368682e3d359fb3@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070626121546.03468a30@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <00df01c7b81d$d0390a70$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> I agree with whoever indicated that you can ground one side of the PWDA switch and connect the other side to the 1-wire connector for the harness. David Lieb From davriker at digitalpath.net Tue Jun 26 12:39:54 2007 From: davriker at digitalpath.net (David Riker) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:39:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Warning!! LBC Content!! Delete Now!! Message-ID: <001001c7b821$65b71f80$6400a8c0@dave> Ah, I found the wiring diagram in the Bently manual, I was close to right. Yes it is the brake pressure circuit, as you had indicated. Yes you will be just fine without using a switch. The wire should be Black with a White trace stripe, which means grounded through a switch and part of the dashboard circuits. If you really want to, the plastic two pin switch, if it seats correctly into the brake distribution block would in theory work with one pin of the switch grounded, and the other pin connected to the B/W wire. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Riker" To: "Jim Johnson" Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Warning!! LBC Content!! Delete Now!! > What color is the wire? > > late 67 and early 68 US cars are oddballs as far as the brake circuit is > concerned. It is the begining of the cars that the clutch and master > cylinder are separate units, but the last of the cars before the dual > circuit brake master cylinder was introduced. That would explain the odd > switch, and lack of an accurate wiring diagram. If you have a switch > mounted on the pedal box with two wires coming to them, one green, and one > green/purple, that is your brake light switch. In this case the switch on > the distribution block would be a brake pressure failure switch, and if it > only has a single wire that has a black stripe, then it is grounded > through the switch when activated. Check with Daniel, or another UK > lister, as this switch might have been used on later cars on that side of > the pond. The brake pressure failure circuit is something that was US > government mandated, but completely useless, as by the time the brake > failure warning light activates, you probably have already felt the pedal > go clear to the floor and have a complete lack of brakes... The two pin > switch will not work. You might be able to find an American car from the > era that uses a switch like you need, if you really want one. > > But, unless you are worried about a complete restoration and scoring > points and all, if it is a brake warning failure switch, I'd just plug the > hole, tape off the wire, and drive the car. > David Riker > davriker at digitalpath.net > http://community.webshots.com/user/fool4mg > http://www.myspace.com/fool4mg > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Johnson" > To: "Spridget List" ; "Yahoo Spridget list" > > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 9:57 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] Warning!! LBC Content!! Delete Now!! > > >> And now for something completely different.... >> >> I have a wiring anomaly on the 1968 Midget. In doing out the brakes, >> I am replacing the brake failure switch. The old one got hammered >> somewhere along the line by somebody years ago. When the new switch >> came in, it has two pins on it. The old one has only one pin and there >> is only one wire in the harness that goes to the switch. I poured over >> all the wiring diagrams in the book but couldn't find one with a >> single wire. They all have two! Then I looked at my nice Prospero's >> diagram and it shows just one! >> >> So..... will the two pin switch (nobody seems to have a single pin >> switch) work? Do I have to short one of the pins to ground? Oh! For >> reference sake, my compensator valve is the "H" shaped one, not the >> "X" shaped one... >> >> We now return you to your regularly scheduled flood of drivel emails.... From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jun 26 16:12:27 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 18:12:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Warning!! LBC Content!! Delete Now!! In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070626121546.03468a30@nosimport.com> References: <43840a7e0706260957p9423c13j7cb257dbdd20463e@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910706261010h5c488d4dn6368682e3d359fb3@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070626121546.03468a30@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <46818F4B.4050304@comcast.net> Peter C wrote: > Actually, he got the 2 wire PWDA switch from me. I can't > find reference to a 1 wire as a separate part Guys Bentley wire diagram which is different from Haynes on the US spec 68 Sprite/Midget shows a 1 wire failure switch Page 255 wire diagram #5. Haynes shows a 2 wire switch. Now where do you find one? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Tue Jun 26 17:00:19 2007 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 19:00:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Off roading in a Sprite Message-ID: Diane is on the cell phone laughing with my daughter trying to convince her boyfriend to bring his truck out and yank us out.Frank,Great story and picture! Glad you two were able to laugh this one off. Unlike the trip to the Valentines last summer! Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto _________________________________________________________________ Live Earth is coming. Learn more about the hottest summer event - only on MSN. http://liveearth.msn.com?source=msntaglineliveearthwlm From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Jun 26 17:06:12 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 16:06:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Message-ID: <380-22007622623612796@earthlink.net> Paul Asgeirsson wrote: "I know a fellow in Lemon Grove who'll give you one. OK to contact me off list at PAsgeirsson at att.net . ----- Original Message ----- . From: oldcoventrian . Subject: Timing Chain Cover wanted. . Does anyone have an A-Series timing chain cover they can part with? I am afraid that I missed the original post on this, so dont know who needs it. I have one, and you just need to give me your name and address to have it in the mail the same day. Buster & Pam Evans 1304 Falcon Street Anaheim California 92804 USA Tel: 714-520-5950 Cell: 714-595-6399 From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Tue Jun 26 17:09:19 2007 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 19:09:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racing in the wet Message-ID: Kevin, Tell Kathy Happy Birthday from us! and How old is Rob again???????Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto> From: kevin at valentinephoto.net> > It's Kathy's birthday tomorrow. She's also going to be 29 (again) ;)> > Kevin> ________ _________________________________________________________________ Play free games, earn tickets, get cool prizes! Join Live Search Club. http://club.live.com/home.aspx?icid=CLUB_wlmailtextlink From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Tue Jun 26 17:34:39 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 19:34:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Off roading in a Sprite In-Reply-To: <467D7388.5020203@comcast.net> References: <467D7388.5020203@comcast.net> Message-ID: Frank, get over it, you're old. Too old to be having sex in a car in the pine barrens. Go back to the bedroom where there's cushions. At least there, you won't get stuck in sand!! Larry On Jun 23, 2007, at 3:24 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > Diane and I decided to take a drive out in the pine barrens today. > We had a great drive when I get the dumb idea to see if I can find the > lake where we used to camp and drink beer when we were kids. > So off the paved trail we go, several miles into the woods and I > knew I > was close to the lake because I found the same giant mud puddle that > burried my Spitfire back in 1973. This time I avoided the deep part > but > still had black mud everywhere. > A few more miles and I turned the Sprite into a bulldozer plowing > sugar > sand until I was belly deep in sand. No shovel, the jack just sank in > the sand, and only a stick to try and dig it out. > Remember, about 10 miles off the nearest paved road. > I found a 6" flat rock and tried it under the jack, it sort of worked > but only to lift the front end, the back was still burried, the tail > pipe was blowing sand, the diff was 4" below the sand. > Some sticks under the rocker to try and jack up the rear sort of > worked. > Diane is on the cell phone laughing with my daughter trying to > convince > her boyfriend to bring his truck out and yank us out. He wants to go > out > in his boat. I managed to dig out the diff with a stick and put some > pine branches under the wheels. Jack it back down and just as I was > about to see if the car would move, a convoy of Jeeps show up. > A bunch of good ole boys jump out with snatch em straps, chains, and > yelling hee haw, let's get em out! At the same time Diane calls Tiff > to > tell her the jeeps showed up so don't bother coming to yank us out. > Well the jeeps couldn't get around my car, they were in front of me, > the > sugar sand went on forward for as long as you could see, I had to go > backwards. When they figured out there was no way to pull me out, they > helped push by hand and we made it back to solid dirt. > After a few hand shakes and thank yous, I asked if the lake was still > around here? They said we just came from the lake, it's just around > the > bend. But a Sprite and the sugar sand wasn't going to happen. > All in all getting stuck in the woods was better than getting stuck in > traffic. > One of the guys in the Jeeps said I was crazy to be out here with that > car, I told him I have 3 or 4 more at home just like it and they are > meant to be driven! One of the Jeeps had a little boy of about 10 > years > old with them. He was thrilled to sit in the car and steer as we all > pushed. > And Diane wanted to know WHY I didn't have a shovel in the boot? > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Jun 26 17:57:11 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 18:57:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No List Content - Ivory Message-ID: If anyone has genuine REAL ivory, I would like to ask you a few questions. If you're willing, please hit me off list, thanks. Brad -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Tue Jun 26 18:04:30 2007 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 17:04:30 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Mufflers (speaking of wuss parts...) Message-ID: <5f9301c7b84e$bc0061d0$2dca010a@mail2world.com> Well, after the 3 hour ride home from the OSHIT on Sunday, my ears were ringing for several hours that night. I've come to the realization that I need a quieter muffler. Yeah, I'm wussing out, but I'd rather not go deaf on next year's trip to Missouri, and maybe hear some tunes, too. So, any recommendations of a muffler with a nice sporty sound, but quieter than a glasspack? :) TIA -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jun 26 18:06:26 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 18:06:26 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Mufflers (speaking of wuss parts...) In-Reply-To: <5f9301c7b84e$bc0061d0$2dca010a@mail2world.com> References: <5f9301c7b84e$bc0061d0$2dca010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706261706y74acea90i23d877368e89f1c3@mail.gmail.com> Flowmaster. That Monza thing isn't too bad, but overpriced IMHO. From hal at katemuir.com Tue Jun 26 18:22:45 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 17:22:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Need parts Message-ID: Spridgeteers, Working on my rebuild for FROG AYE. Two items would make the process much easier: A rear plate for a 1275. The one I have has had some creative torch work done to it and has some cracks radiating out from said artistic endeavor. Now's the chance for one of you who was fortunate enough to afford Paul's 5-speed kit to make a couple of bucks while cleaning out the garage. Rib case tranny. Since you've converted to a 5-speed, you don't need that ribcase anymore, so sell it to me cheap!!!! If you have such items let me know what you want for them and I will see if I can afford it. I also have most of the parts for a 1098 (2" mains) if someone is interested in anything, let me know what you want, and what it's worth and I will see if I have it. After the rebuild is done I'll have a complete 948, if anyone is interested. Hal From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Tue Jun 26 18:55:48 2007 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:55:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Ipod stereo for bugsy Message-ID: Hey jim,he musta had pretty crappy speakers.I have such a system in my Mustang, I think it works well. Helps to keep you from constantly adjusting the volume.,especially coming to a stop after drivin on the highway.The level at which it adjusts is variable as well. Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto> > > I saw a convertible recently that had one of those systems that> automatically adjusts the volume for interior noise level. The owner> told me it was useless and he had to disable it. Driving with the top> down, the system would turn itself up so high it damaged a couple of> the speakers!> > Cheers!!> Jim _________________________________________________________________ Play free games, earn tickets, get cool prizes! Join Live Search Club. http://club.live.com/home.aspx?icid=CLUB_wlmailtextlink From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jun 26 19:06:48 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:06:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Mufflers (speaking of wuss parts...) In-Reply-To: <5f9301c7b84e$bc0061d0$2dca010a@mail2world.com> References: <5f9301c7b84e$bc0061d0$2dca010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: <4681B828.5080305@comcast.net> Chris King wrote: > So, any recommendations of a muffler with a nice sporty sound, but > quieter than a glasspack? :) I am getting old too. So I now have a double glass pack or is it dual glass pack muffler on my Sprite. Not too quite and a nice throaty sound. JC Whitney under exhaust somewhere around $25. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From kevin at valentinephoto.net Tue Jun 26 19:12:55 2007 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:12:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Mufflers (speaking of wuss parts...) In-Reply-To: <5f9301c7b84e$bc0061d0$2dca010a@mail2world.com> References: <5f9301c7b84e$bc0061d0$2dca010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: Chris, Easy fix; Take the dual SU carbs and manifold off the car and send them to Ben. It won't be near as loud and you could sit in it all day listening to the sound system of your choice ;) Kevin On Jun 26, 2007, at 8:04 PM, Chris King wrote: > Well, after the 3 hour ride home from the OSHIT on Sunday, my ears > were > ringing for several hours that night. > > I've come to the realization that I need a quieter muffler. Yeah, I'm > wussing out, but I'd rather not go deaf on next year's trip to > Missouri, > and maybe hear some tunes, too. > > So, any recommendations of a muffler with a nice sporty sound, but > quieter than a glasspack? :) From BCAH at aol.com Tue Jun 26 19:31:11 2007 From: BCAH at aol.com (BCAH at aol.com) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:31:11 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust wrap Message-ID: Hello all, I just finished reading an article about exhaust wrap which basically said it would severely shorten the life of the header.In other words, "don't use it". Any thoughts out there? How about the coating for both the inside and outside of the pipe that I see advertised? Some kind of ceramic ? Summer is coming on and I need something to keep the heat down.Bob C ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. From herby at herbytoys.com Tue Jun 26 19:39:29 2007 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 18:39:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Stereo / Bose In-Reply-To: <502295.92348.qm@web38915.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001501c7b85c$0279fec0$6501a8c0@HERBYZ> I think you may find that they won't sound as good in your Spridget. Those Bose speakers in the Impala were most likely sonically designed for that car and placed in the ideal locations (probably according to a computer!). The head unit, amps, etc. are also designed and equalized as part of the package. Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 2:04 AM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Stereo / Bose I do not know that much about speakers. But the ones i listen to sounded ok. The ones in the wifes car sound great to me and i figure if i pull them out of wreak they should be cheap. Most of the ones i have seen mentioned are not much if any cheaper then the Bose. In fact i do see one that i have seen for more. But i feel the same way. I am not building a theater just some thing to hear some music and the news. I know some people go a lot further. And if that makes them happy i am happy for them. Vigil From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jun 26 19:41:28 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 19:41:28 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust wrap In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706261841x7bfa5ff8w4e28741f97a48a5c@mail.gmail.com> Ceramic coating is the way to go, inside and out. Wraps trap moisture that will corrode your headers to pieces. A good ceramic coating job will look good and improve header life tremendously. Cheers, Derf From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jun 26 19:44:28 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:44:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust wrap In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4681C0FC.5080306@comcast.net> BCAH at aol.com wrote: > Summer is coming on and I need something to keep the heat down.Bob C I have heard that the wraps eat the pipes too. I put a sheet of asbestos like stuff on the floor of my Sprite to beat the heat sort of like the big Healeys have. I used 1/4" Hardyboard (ceramic tile underlayment) with about a 1/2" space between the floor pan and the board. I just spaced it down from the floor with some nuts so there is an air space between the board and the floor. There is not a whole lot of room between the pipe and floor. I also used the heat duct wrap under the floor mat on the drivers side too. Both help and my sneakers don't melt anymore ;) but it's still hot. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From banjojohn at cox.net Tue Jun 26 19:47:44 2007 From: banjojohn at cox.net (John O'Brien) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:47:44 -0500 (Central Daylight Time) Subject: [Spridgets] Tires Message-ID: <4681C1C0.000009.02908@TOSHIBA-USER> Hi All: I think it has been a while since tires were discussed on the list. I have been running 175/70 R13 on my bugeye. I have had several instances of the tires contacting the front wheel arch and causing some damage on a hard bump I am planning to go to a Bridgestone 165/65 R13 Potenza on the fronts, and leave the 175/70 R13 on the rear. Any suggestions for another tire size for the fronts, and any thoughts about mixing tire sizes. Doesn't seem to be a lot of choices that I have found. TIA John O'Brien '61 Bugeye '65 BJ8 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of BackGrnd.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of imstp_pets_cat1_en.gif] From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Tue Jun 26 20:15:49 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:15:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Warning!! LBC Content!! Delete Now!! References: <43840a7e0706260957p9423c13j7cb257dbdd20463e@mail.gmail.com><5f00d9910706261010h5c488d4dn6368682e3d359fb3@mail.gmail.com><7.0.1.0.2.20070626121546.03468a30@nosimport.com> <46818F4B.4050304@comcast.net> Message-ID: <033301c7b861$15646cf0$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> MY supplier says he has, Frank. From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Tue Jun 26 20:17:36 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:17:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Warning!! LBC Content!! Delete Now!! References: <43840a7e0706260957p9423c13j7cb257dbdd20463e@mail.gmail.com><5f00d9910706261010h5c488d4dn6368682e3d359fb3@mail.gmail.com><7.0.1.0.2.20070626121546.03468a30@nosimport.com> <46818F4B.4050304@comcast.net> Message-ID: <033701c7b861$549778e0$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> Duh!! I would "hope" that over the past decade or so that I have expoused enough that Haynes SUCKS in the Elec. Dept.!! From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Tue Jun 26 20:19:58 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:19:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Off roading in a Sprite References: Message-ID: <034701c7b861$abc12990$6501a8c0@actualshop> Brian!! <> If you recall, Frank was LAUGHING at the time of their "arrival"!!! Just KEPT asking, "What the F*** are YOU doing here???"!!! LOL From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jun 26 20:20:49 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:20:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Warning!! LBC Content!! Delete Now!! In-Reply-To: <033701c7b861$549778e0$6501a8c0@actualshop> References: <43840a7e0706260957p9423c13j7cb257dbdd20463e@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910706261010h5c488d4dn6368682e3d359fb3@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070626121546.03468a30@nosimport.com> <46818F4B.4050304@comcast.net> <033701c7b861$549778e0$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <43840a7e0706261920x3e97df72wec9708bce297dda3@mail.gmail.com> FWIW, Prospero's Garage had my wiring diagram exactly like what is in the car while Haynes didn't. I don't have a Bentley book. Jim On 6/26/07, 63AHBJ7 <63ahbj7 at gmail.com> wrote: > <> > > Duh!! > > I would "hope" that over the past decade or so that I have expoused enough > that Haynes SUCKS in the Elec. Dept.!! > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From dmg at bossig.com Tue Jun 26 20:25:14 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (dmg at bossig.com) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 19:25:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Warning!! LBC Content!! Delete Now!! In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0706261920x3e97df72wec9708bce297dda3@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0706260957p9423c13j7cb257dbdd20463e@mail.gmail.com>, <033701c7b861$549778e0$6501a8c0@actualshop>, <43840a7e0706261920x3e97df72wec9708bce297dda3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4681681A.11476.2B93411@dmg.bossig.com> My Prosperos' diagram for '64-67 Spriget has the RIght Front turn light and the right side marker lamps transposed with the wiring ... I told them about it, they offered to replace it with a corrected one, contacted them twice and that's last I heard out of them.... Still have the bad one!! Dave G. On 26 Jun 2007 at 21:20, Jim Johnson wrote: >> FWIW, Prospero's Garage had my wiring diagram exactly like what is in >> the car while Haynes didn't. I don't have a Bentley book. From jlaird237 at cox.net Tue Jun 26 20:36:17 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:36:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires References: <4681C1C0.000009.02908@TOSHIBA-USER> Message-ID: <001101c7b863$f04427a0$6401a8c0@personal> 155/80 R13 is proper for a Bugeye. No rubbing, close to orginal size and looks right. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John O'Brien" To: "Spridget List" Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 8:47 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Tires > Hi All: > I think it has been a while since tires were discussed on the list. I > have > been running 175/70 R13 on my bugeye. I have had several instances of the > tires contacting the front wheel arch and causing some damage on a hard > bump > I am planning to go to a Bridgestone 165/65 R13 Potenza on the fronts, > and > leave the 175/70 R13 on the rear. Any suggestions for another tire size > for > the fronts, and any thoughts about mixing tire sizes. Doesn't seem to be > a > lot of choices that I have found. > TIA > > John O'Brien > '61 Bugeye > '65 BJ8 > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > BackGrnd.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of > imstp_pets_cat1_en.gif] > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.9/870 - Release Date: 6/26/2007 > 10:07 AM From BCAH at aol.com Tue Jun 26 20:39:47 2007 From: BCAH at aol.com (BCAH at aol.com) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:39:47 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] timing chain cover Message-ID: Hello,-------isn't there an "A" series engine which has the timing pointer at the top and will fit all of 'em? Bob C ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Tue Jun 26 20:47:45 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:47:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Warning!! LBC Content!! Delete Now!! In-Reply-To: <033701c7b861$549778e0$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <200706270245.l5R2j8rT028863@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> Oh. That's kind of a relief to know-I've been comparing one to the other and wondered if there were things reversed or brought in from somewhere else. Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of 63AHBJ7 Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 9:18 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Warning!! LBC Content!! Delete Now!! <> Duh!! I would "hope" that over the past decade or so that I have expoused enough that Haynes SUCKS in the Elec. Dept.!! _______________________________________________ cmanuel at wi.rr.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From jlaird237 at cox.net Tue Jun 26 21:11:53 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:11:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] timing chain cover References: Message-ID: <000801c7b868$e95415e0$6401a8c0@personal> Think that is a owner mod, Not hard to do, use a peice of stiff wire under a bolt for the marker and remark the wheel while it is on TDC on the orginal mark. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 9:39 PM Subject: [Spridgets] timing chain cover > Hello,-------isn't there an "A" series engine which has the timing pointer > at the top and will fit all of 'em? Bob C > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.9/870 - Release Date: 6/26/2007 > 10:07 AM From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jun 26 21:29:31 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 23:29:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Auto darkening Welding Shields Message-ID: <205cef430706262029j16ada8b8u245eac98369363b9@mail.gmail.com> List, Today I finally went to the local welding shop in a neighboring town and had them hold a Lincoln MIG welder 135 (couldn't pick it up on my motorcycle) it is last years model on sale about $100. off list ether way it is still expensive at $465. but I was tired of bidding on eBay for one. It comes with the gas gauges & hoses & I'll have to purchase the gas cylinder as an extra purchase. I laughed at the hand held shield that came with the welder and asked to see some better shields so the sales man (son of owner of store) showed me an auto darkening shield and gave me a demo of how they work and I was so impressed with how quickly they activate with a spark he produced as they operate with a solar cell to darken (Reaction time: 0.005 second on eBay model) but the cheapest one he had is $150. and I told him I would take one. When I got home I thought I would check on eBay and see they are selling the shields for and was surprised that they are selling between $25. and $60. Are the eBay auto darkening shields any good? The one I am looking at right now states it meets ANSE Z87 standards. 170122073859 . Lin 62 California Sprite "Pinky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner From dwoerpel at wi.net Tue Jun 26 21:35:58 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:35:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires In-Reply-To: <001101c7b863$f04427a0$6401a8c0@personal> References: <4681C1C0.000009.02908@TOSHIBA-USER> <001101c7b863$f04427a0$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: <4681DB1E.2050905@wi.net> 155's on a 4" rim??? Jack Laird wrote: > 155/80 R13 is proper for a Bugeye. > > No rubbing, close to orginal size and looks right. From pdx.pete at verizon.net Tue Jun 26 21:39:58 2007 From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (pdxpete) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:39:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Auto darkening Welding Shields References: <205cef430706262029j16ada8b8u245eac98369363b9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001801c7b86c$d6593de0$c30e6f47@DBKF4T81> I've had less than favorable results with an inexpensive Harbor Freight auto-darkening helmet and ended up buying a better one (got a good deal through someone who picked up a few of them at a SEMA show). Ironically, I haven't done much welding since then. On the other hand, Paul A is getting good use out of a Harbor freight unit ... go figure. My advice? Don't bother with eBay. Instead, try one of the Harbor Freight units, if there's a store nearby, keep the receipt and return it promptly if you are dissatisfied. While you are in the process of trying out the HF unit you might be able to do some sort of comparison with a unit from the welding shop. My guess is that you will be suitably impressed by the more expensive shield. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner" To: "Spridget" Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 8:29 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Auto darkening Welding Shields > List, > Today I finally went to the local welding shop in a neighboring town and > had > them hold a Lincoln MIG welder 135 (couldn't pick it up on my motorcycle) > it > is last years model on sale about $100. off list ether way it is still > expensive at $465. but I was tired of bidding on eBay for one. It comes > with > the gas gauges & hoses & I'll have to purchase the gas cylinder as an > extra > purchase. > I laughed at the hand held shield that came with the welder and asked to > see > some better shields so the sales man (son of owner of store) showed me an > auto darkening shield and gave me a demo of how they work and I was so > impressed with how quickly they activate with a spark he produced as they > operate with a solar cell to darken (Reaction time: 0.005 second on eBay > model) but the cheapest one he had is $150. and I told him I would take > one. When I got home I thought I would check on eBay and see they are > selling the shields for and was surprised that they are selling between > $25. > and $60. Are the eBay auto darkening shields any good? The one I am > looking > at right now states it meets ANSE Z87 standards. 170122073859 . > Lin > > 62 California Sprite "Pinky" > www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner > _______________________________________________ > pdx.pete at verizon.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From jlaird237 at cox.net Tue Jun 26 21:43:15 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:43:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires References: <4681C1C0.000009.02908@TOSHIBA-USER><001101c7b863$f04427a0$6401a8c0@personal> <4681DB1E.2050905@wi.net> Message-ID: <000801c7b86d$4b43d070$6401a8c0@personal> Of course. The orginals were 145s that's not much difference. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Woerpel" To: "Spridget List" Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 10:35 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tires > 155's on a 4" rim??? > > Jack Laird wrote: >> 155/80 R13 is proper for a Bugeye. >> >> No rubbing, close to orginal size and looks right. > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.9/870 - Release Date: 6/26/2007 > 10:07 AM From dwoerpel at wi.net Tue Jun 26 21:52:00 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:52:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires In-Reply-To: <000801c7b86d$4b43d070$6401a8c0@personal> References: <4681C1C0.000009.02908@TOSHIBA-USER><001101c7b863$f04427a0$6401a8c0@personal> <4681DB1E.2050905@wi.net> <000801c7b86d$4b43d070$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: <4681DEE0.70509@wi.net> OK, I thought the might be a little squirmy. All my sources show 155's on 4 1/2" rims. Thanks for the info! Regards, Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS Burlington WI Jack Laird wrote: > Of course. > > The orginals were 145s that's not much difference. From refisk at chartermi.net Tue Jun 26 22:00:58 2007 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 00:00:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires References: <4681C1C0.000009.02908@TOSHIBA-USER><001101c7b863$f04427a0$6401a8c0@personal> <4681DB1E.2050905@wi.net> Message-ID: <00aa01c7b86f$c4e76c50$6401a8c0@refisk> Original Bugeye wheels are 3.5 inches wide. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Woerpel" To: "Spridget List" Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tires > 155's on a 4" rim??? > > Jack Laird wrote: >> 155/80 R13 is proper for a Bugeye. From wrongwayricky at mac.com Tue Jun 26 22:12:05 2007 From: wrongwayricky at mac.com (Rick & Carolyn) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:12:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 1, Issue 111 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1BB6EA69-0113-1000-87A8-1761021E351B-Webmail-10013@mac.com> Hi Mark, I Ran into this too. Solved it by running a saws all down the corners from the top of the console far enough to bend the grill back flat. Then tilt the console when you install it. This will allow you to insert cd's when in any gear. You can even cover the grill part and make a nice shelf for cds. I think it looks real nice in my bug-i. It's out of 69 midget. I removed the vynal and painted it black. If you want I will send you some pic's. Wrongway Ricky 60 Frog eye "Puddles" 52 MGTD "Sparky" From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jun 26 22:12:20 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 23:12:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Warning!! LBC Content!! Delete Now!! In-Reply-To: <4681681A.11476.2B93411@dmg.bossig.com> References: <43840a7e0706260957p9423c13j7cb257dbdd20463e@mail.gmail.com> <033701c7b861$549778e0$6501a8c0@actualshop> <43840a7e0706261920x3e97df72wec9708bce297dda3@mail.gmail.com> <4681681A.11476.2B93411@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0706262112o1fb44b0dt11cb72ad876140fd@mail.gmail.com> I dunno what the deal is on that, Dave. Prospero's used to be a one man operation (the guy also has older BMW motorcycles which is how I met him). He's a great guy and really helpful. I see it is now a new website though so maybe he sold the business? Anyway, like I said, my 68 diagram is exactly correct for my car... Cheers!! Jim On 6/26/07, dmg at bossig.com wrote: > My Prosperos' diagram for '64-67 Spriget has the RIght Front turn light and the right side > marker lamps transposed with the wiring ... > I told them about it, they offered to replace it with a corrected one, contacted them twice and > that's last I heard out of them.... > Still have the bad one!! > > Dave G. > > On 26 Jun 2007 at 21:20, Jim Johnson wrote: > > >> FWIW, Prospero's Garage had my wiring diagram exactly like what is in > >> the car while Haynes didn't. I don't have a Bentley book. > > > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jun 26 22:18:34 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:18:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Need parts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <550665.70734.qm@web30514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Hal Faulkner wrote: > A rear plate for a 1275. I recently (like yesterday) was talking to Joe Alexander, one of the FOT guys, and he's doing aluminum backplates for several LBCs. He'd like to do them for Sprites, and would do a limited batch at around $100 per if he could get 5 interested parties for an initial run. I already have one but would probably get another. Lead time would probably be around a month. Hal, etc. - anyone in? NFI, etc. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz From wmgilroy at gmail.com Tue Jun 26 22:37:49 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:37:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust wrap In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <441250190706262137o46fc96bcne1da7f336e813fe5@mail.gmail.com> www.swaintech.com On 6/26/07, BCAH at aol.com wrote: > > Hello all, I just finished reading an article about exhaust wrap which > basically said it would severely shorten the life of the header.Inother words, > "don't use it". Any thoughts out there? How about the coating for both > the > inside and outside of the pipe that I see advertised? Some kind > of ceramic ? > Summer is coming on and I need something to keep the heat down.Bob C > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > _______________________________________________ > wmgilroy at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From millerls at ado13.com Tue Jun 26 22:49:37 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:49:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Need parts References: Message-ID: <0e5e01c7b876$91684550$d280bc43@HP> Hi Hal I have a 1275 rear plate that you can have for shipping. It may be a few days before I can get it in the mail. Let me know. Larry Miller ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hal Faulkner" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 5:22 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Need parts > Spridgeteers, > Working on my rebuild for FROG AYE. Two items would make the process much > easier: > A rear plate for a 1275. The one I have has had some creative torch work > done to it and has some cracks radiating out from said artistic endeavor. > Now's the chance for one of you who was fortunate enough to afford Paul's > 5-speed kit to make a couple of bucks while cleaning out the garage. > Rib case tranny. Since you've converted to a 5-speed, you don't need that > ribcase anymore, so sell it to me cheap!!!! > If you have such items let me know what you want for them and I will see > if > I can afford it. > I also have most of the parts for a 1098 (2" mains) if someone is > interested > in anything, let me know what you want, and what it's worth and I will see > if I have it. > After the rebuild is done I'll have a complete 948, if anyone is > interested. > Hal > _______________________________________________ > millerls at ado13.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dwoerpel at wi.net Tue Jun 26 23:04:20 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 00:04:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires In-Reply-To: <00aa01c7b86f$c4e76c50$6401a8c0@refisk> References: <4681C1C0.000009.02908@TOSHIBA-USER><001101c7b863$f04427a0$6401a8c0@personal> <4681DB1E.2050905@wi.net> <00aa01c7b86f$c4e76c50$6401a8c0@refisk> Message-ID: <4681EFD4.8050000@wi.net> Why yes they are! I'll claim old age for that mistake! So that makes me more cautious about 155's Thanks for the correction Rick. Dave (I going nite-nite now......ZZZzzzzz) Rick Fisk wrote: > Original Bugeye wheels are 3.5 inches wide. From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Jun 27 04:03:08 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 06:03:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Auto darkening Welding Shields In-Reply-To: <001801c7b86c$d6593de0$c30e6f47@DBKF4T81> References: <205cef430706262029j16ada8b8u245eac98369363b9@mail.gmail.com> <001801c7b86c$d6593de0$c30e6f47@DBKF4T81> Message-ID: <205cef430706270303g74acadadr2bb50a24b8ad63d4@mail.gmail.com> Thanks, I'll keep away from eBay, as I just recieved a tip from Bob Walker to check it has lense change at about 1/25000 second [one twentyfive thousands speed.]. I'll check at the store for that. Thanks for the wake up on this issue, Lin On 6/26/07, pdxpete wrote: > > I've had less than favorable results with an inexpensive Harbor Freight > auto-darkening helmet and ended up buying a better one (got a good deal > through someone who picked up a few of them at a SEMA show). Ironically, I > haven't done much welding since then. > > On the other hand, Paul A is getting good use out of a Harbor freight unit > ... go figure. > > My advice? Don't bother with eBay. Instead, try one of the Harbor Freight > units, if there's a store nearby, keep the receipt and return it promptly > if > you are dissatisfied. While you are in the process of trying out the HF > unit > you might be able to do some sort of comparison with a unit from the > welding > shop. My guess is that you will be suitably impressed by the more > expensive > shield. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Grunthaner" > To: "Spridget" > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 8:29 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Auto darkening Welding Shields > > > > List, > > Today I finally went to the local welding shop in a neighboring town and > > had > > them hold a Lincoln MIG welder 135 (couldn't pick it up on my > motorcycle) > > it > > is last years model on sale about $100. off list ether way it is still > > expensive at $465. but I was tired of bidding on eBay for one. It comes > > with > > the gas gauges & hoses & I'll have to purchase the gas cylinder as an > > extra > > purchase. > > I laughed at the hand held shield that came with the welder and asked to > > see > > some better shields so the sales man (son of owner of store) showed me > an > > auto darkening shield and gave me a demo of how they work and I was so > > impressed with how quickly they activate with a spark he produced as > they > > operate with a solar cell to darken (Reaction time: 0.005 second on eBay > > model) but the cheapest one he had is $150. and I told him I would take > > one. When I got home I thought I would check on eBay and see they are > > selling the shields for and was surprised that they are selling between > > $25. > > and $60. Are the eBay auto darkening shields any good? The one I am > > looking > > at right now states it meets ANSE Z87 standards. 170122073859 . > > Lin > > > > 62 California Sprite "Pinky" > > www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner > > _______________________________________________ > > pdx.pete at verizon.net > > > > Edit your replies > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Jun 27 04:20:46 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 06:20:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Off roading in a Sprite In-Reply-To: <467D7388.5020203@comcast.net> References: <467D7388.5020203@comcast.net> Message-ID: <205cef430706270320q25e98e4aj200169316f79da69@mail.gmail.com> Frank, Your positive attitude on these LBC's are so motivating, you never give up. So is that little boy a future Spridget owner : ) Hope so. Lin 62 California Sprite "Pinky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner On 6/23/07, Frank Clarici wrote: > > Diane and I decided to take a drive out in the pine barrens today. > We had a great drive when I get the dumb idea to see if I can find the > lake where we used to camp and drink beer when we were kids. > So off the paved trail we go, several miles into the woods and I knew I > was close to the lake because I found the same giant mud puddle that > burried my Spitfire back in 1973. This time I avoided the deep part but > still had black mud everywhere. > A few more miles and I turned the Sprite into a bulldozer plowing sugar > sand until I was belly deep in sand. No shovel, the jack just sank in > the sand, and only a stick to try and dig it out. > Remember, about 10 miles off the nearest paved road. > I found a 6" flat rock and tried it under the jack, it sort of worked > but only to lift the front end, the back was still burried, the tail > pipe was blowing sand, the diff was 4" below the sand. > Some sticks under the rocker to try and jack up the rear sort of worked. > Diane is on the cell phone laughing with my daughter trying to convince > her boyfriend to bring his truck out and yank us out. He wants to go out > in his boat. I managed to dig out the diff with a stick and put some > pine branches under the wheels. Jack it back down and just as I was > about to see if the car would move, a convoy of Jeeps show up. > A bunch of good ole boys jump out with snatch em straps, chains, and > yelling hee haw, let's get em out! At the same time Diane calls Tiff to > tell her the jeeps showed up so don't bother coming to yank us out. > Well the jeeps couldn't get around my car, they were in front of me, the > sugar sand went on forward for as long as you could see, I had to go > backwards. When they figured out there was no way to pull me out, they > helped push by hand and we made it back to solid dirt. > After a few hand shakes and thank yous, I asked if the lake was still > around here? They said we just came from the lake, it's just around the > bend. But a Sprite and the sugar sand wasn't going to happen. > All in all getting stuck in the woods was better than getting stuck in > traffic. > One of the guys in the Jeeps said I was crazy to be out here with that > car, I told him I have 3 or 4 more at home just like it and they are > meant to be driven! One of the Jeeps had a little boy of about 10 years > old with them. He was thrilled to sit in the car and steer as we all > pushed. > And Diane wanted to know WHY I didn't have a shovel in the boot? > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > grunthaner at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ckotting at wideopenwest.com Wed Jun 27 05:12:49 2007 From: ckotting at wideopenwest.com (CHRIS KOTTING) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 06:12:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust wrap In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070627111004.M28115@wideopenwest.com> I had wrapped a mild steel header on a 1500 Midget and the 4-1 collector rusted into a useless pile of .... in a year. I have wrapped my current header, but only for the first few inches to keep the heat away from the carbs. It seems to have helped a lot with the heat, but we'll see about the corrosion. Chris K. On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:31:11 EDT, BCAH wrote > Hello all, I just finished reading an article about exhaust wrap > which basically said it would severely shorten the life of the > header.In other words, "don't use it". Any thoughts out there? How > about the coating for both the inside and outside of the pipe that > I see advertised? Some kind of ceramic ? Summer is coming on and I > need something to keep the heat down.Bob C From thcollin at mtu.edu Wed Jun 27 05:24:02 2007 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 07:24:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires In-Reply-To: <4681C1C0.000009.02908@TOSHIBA-USER> References: <4681C1C0.000009.02908@TOSHIBA-USER> Message-ID: <60324o$c2r1b@email.mtu.edu> I'm looking at Verdestein tires. They are available in 145 / 80 - 13 size. Haven't bought yet, but from all I have heard, these are good tires. http://www.tiresunlimited.com/ALL%20TIRES/Vredestein/vred_sprint.htm At 09:47 PM 6/26/2007, John O'Brien wrote: >Hi All: >I think it has been a while since tires were discussed on the list. I have >been running 175/70 R13 on my bugeye. Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From wsthompson at thicko.com Wed Jun 27 05:27:07 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 06:27:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Auto darkening Welding Shields In-Reply-To: <205cef430706262029j16ada8b8u245eac98369363b9@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430706262029j16ada8b8u245eac98369363b9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000c01c7b8ae$1a5b7490$4f125db0$@com> Lin, I tried one of those cheapie auto darkening helmets from Harbor Freight.. it was sh*t. I paid the dough for a good one after that. WST -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 10:30 PM To: Spridget Subject: [Spridgets] Auto darkening Welding Shields List, Today I finally went to the local welding shop in a neighboring town and had them hold a Lincoln MIG welder 135 (couldn't pick it up on my motorcycle) it is last years model on sale about $100. off list ether way it is still expensive at $465. but I was tired of bidding on eBay for one. It comes with the gas gauges & hoses & I'll have to purchase the gas cylinder as an extra purchase. I laughed at the hand held shield that came with the welder and asked to see some better shields so the sales man (son of owner of store) showed me an auto darkening shield and gave me a demo of how they work and I was so impressed with how quickly they activate with a spark he produced as they operate with a solar cell to darken (Reaction time: 0.005 second on eBay model) but the cheapest one he had is $150. and I told him I would take one. When I got home I thought I would check on eBay and see they are selling the shields for and was surprised that they are selling between $25. and $60. Are the eBay auto darkening shields any good? The one I am looking at right now states it meets ANSE Z87 standards. 170122073859 . Lin 62 California Sprite "Pinky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner From banjojohn at cox.net Wed Jun 27 06:48:29 2007 From: banjojohn at cox.net (John O'Brien) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 07:48:29 -0500 (Central Daylight Time) Subject: [Spridgets] Tires References: <60324o$c2r1b@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <46825C9D.000001.03744@TOSHIBA-USER> I should have mentioned that I am running a 5" rim minilite type wheel. John O'Brien '61 Bugeye '65 BJ8 >Hi All: >I think it has been a while since tires were discussed on the list. I have >been running 175/70 R13 on my bugeye. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of BackGrnd.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of elephant_en.gif] From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Jun 27 07:23:52 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 9:23:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust wrap Message-ID: <20070627132352.CLMZ3229.tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> For what it's worth: One header coater told me that they don't coat the inside because of the remote chance that the coating may separate from the header. I 'think' he said that internal adhesion is more difficult to achieve due to the difficulties of sandblasting properly internally. RD > > > > Hello all, I just finished reading an article about exhaust wrap which > > basically said it would severely shorten the life of the header.Inother words, > > "don't use it". Any thoughts out there? How about the coating for both > > the > > inside and outside of the pipe that I see advertised? Some kind > > of ceramic ? > > Summer is coming on and I need something to keep the heat down.Bob C From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 27 07:39:25 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 07:39:25 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust wrap In-Reply-To: <20070627132352.CLMZ3229.tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20070627132352.CLMZ3229.tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706270639x6c5ca3a9v7925ba00c5a496d5@mail.gmail.com> Ok, but if you don't coat the inside aren't you opening yourself up to corrosion? The ceramic will protect the outside and form a heat barrier. Moisture will condense on the inside after the motor is turned off and cause rust, no? Or, will the carbon buildup be like a rust preventive? From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Jun 27 08:05:04 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 10:05:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust wrap Message-ID: <20070627140504.CJWK13659.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> I don't know! No-one told me anything about that!! :) I don't have a clue whether the corrosion happens more from the inside or the outside. I do know that mufflers will corrode from the inside if you have a habit of taking short trips and are less likely to do so if you get the exhaust up to temp. If what I 'know' is actually true, then I would suspect that the header would get up to temp fairly quickly and be less likely to suffer the same fate. But, I'm guessing wildly. Engineers??? Going from very bad memory, I think my previous Maniflow header was installed in the early 70's and it corroded enough to break ( what was it? ) about 2 years ago? I think that was aided by a speed bump that I didn't go quite slow enough over. The new one http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/Intake009.jpg is coated on the outside only. I can let you know when it needs to be replaced? ;) RD > From: derf > Ok, but if you don't coat the inside aren't you opening yourself up to > corrosion? The ceramic will protect the outside and form a heat barrier. > Moisture will condense on the inside after the motor is turned off and cause > rust, no? Or, will the carbon buildup be like a rust preventive? From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Jun 27 08:11:35 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 10:11:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust wrap Message-ID: <20070627141135.OLSR25465.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Uh! Maybe I'll have to put it in my will to have someone tell you . . . ( just did the math. ) RD > From: Robert Duquette > The new one http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/Intake009.jpg > is coated on the outside only. I can let you know when it needs to be replaced? ;) > > RD From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 27 08:19:23 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 08:19:23 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust wrap In-Reply-To: <20070627141135.OLSR25465.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20070627141135.OLSR25465.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706270719o330ea02cw9199ba5e6a328718@mail.gmail.com> Hi, That one looks nice. How much of a difference did you notice in under hood temps? I can see how it would be hard to get good coverage on the inside, especially with a sprayed on product. So, if you were told by a vendor that they could not make it work properly on the inside, then I would count that as a point for the vendor. Any unscrupulous vendors would just do what they could and charge you for it. Cheers, Derf From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Wed Jun 27 08:43:10 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 07:43:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust wrap References: Message-ID: <004a01c7b8c9$7bd3bdc0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> I've used header wrap on the turbo exit pipe for years and haven't seen accelerated corrosion. I think the difference in experience across the country may be due to the climate conditions. When the header is hot and allowed to cool, moisture can only be drawn and condense on the wrap/header if there is moisture present. Those of us who pamper our cars with garage storage in California are driving our hot manifolds into a fairly moisture free environment for the "cool down". If I were parking my heated up Sprite by the beach or outside in high humidity, I suppose it would be more of a factor. As it is now, I'm quite sure the header pipe will outlive me. There is absolutely no question that it has made a difference in the under-bonnet temps. I only wrap the pipe exiting the turbo however, since wrapping the manifold before the turbo caused it to get so hot that the expansion increased the cracking problem with the original homemade manifold. The new one is thicker, better welded, and supported by a brace to take the turbo weight. No cracks yet! Glen Byrns > Hello all, I just finished reading an article about exhaust wrap which > basically said it would severely shorten the life of the header.In other > words, > "don't use it". Any thoughts out there? How about the coating for both > the > inside and outside of the pipe that I see advertised? Some kind of > ceramic ? > Summer is coming on and I need something to keep the heat down.Bob C From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Jun 27 08:46:12 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 10:46:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust wrap Message-ID: <20070627144612.CSTR13659.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> There is a huge difference, but in my case there is still room for improvement. But, let me say that again. There was a huge improvement in my case. I used to stumble and spit away from a stoplight on hot days, if I was stopped for a bit. Now, under the same conditions, the engine is a bit weaker, but nowhere near as embarrassing. The vendor mentioned something about catastophic failure being possible as a result of sudden separation and that the risk was nowhere near worth the possible gain. I had the intake done also. I kinda wonder if I should have had the float bowls done, too. I guess it's good for business to not have failures 'attributed to' your product. Anyway, I thanked them for that. > From: derf > > Hi, > That one looks nice. How much of a difference did you notice in under hood > temps? > I can see how it would be hard to get good coverage on the inside, > especially with a sprayed on product. So, if you were told by a vendor that > they could not make it work properly on the inside, then I would count that > as a point for the vendor. Any unscrupulous vendors would just do what they > could and charge you for it. > Cheers, > Derf From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Jun 27 09:02:20 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 10:02:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No List Content - Ivory In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <940E8BFC-D256-45C0-93B8-567D6625AE97@comcast.net> Soap?? Or tusk? ..and if tusk, from what creature? .. or are you talking piano? Lester On Jun 26, 2007, at 6:57 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > If anyone has genuine REAL ivory, I would like to ask you a few > questions. If you're willing, please hit me off list, thanks. > > Brad From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 27 09:07:24 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 09:07:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust wrap In-Reply-To: <004a01c7b8c9$7bd3bdc0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <004a01c7b8c9$7bd3bdc0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706270807l2540921du632b6380149fb25c@mail.gmail.com> Your custom turbo manifold probably isn't the same cheap, thin, mild steel that most headers are made from. Turbos get red hot during operation. I don't even think ceramic will hold up on hot turbos. Racers use header wraps because they work but they also don't put the wraps on and drive up and down the roads for months at a time. Now that ceramic coating is economical, I think it is probably the best way to go. You get performance benefits as well as enhanced longevity. Good bang for the buck as far as I'm concerned. Got a turbo? Just use cast iron manifolds or thick steel and hope for the best. Turbos get hotter than hot. From jlaird237 at cox.net Wed Jun 27 10:01:09 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 11:01:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires References: <4681C1C0.000009.02908@TOSHIBA-USER><001101c7b863$f04427a0$6401a8c0@personal><4681DB1E.2050905@wi.net> <00aa01c7b86f$c4e76c50$6401a8c0@refisk> <4681EFD4.8050000@wi.net> Message-ID: <001d01c7b8d4$60588520$6401a8c0@personal> Honest, I am running the 155s on orginal wheels, not a problem in the world. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Woerpel" To: "Spridget List" Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 12:04 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tires > Why yes they are! I'll claim old age for that mistake! So that makes > me more cautious about 155's > Thanks for the correction Rick. > Dave (I going nite-nite now......ZZZzzzzz) > > Rick Fisk wrote: >> Original Bugeye wheels are 3.5 inches wide. > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.9/870 - Release Date: 6/26/2007 > 10:07 AM From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Jun 27 10:13:20 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 11:13:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Mufflers (speaking of wuss parts...) In-Reply-To: <5f9301c7b84e$bc0061d0$2dca010a@mail2world.com> References: <5f9301c7b84e$bc0061d0$2dca010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: <6E3A01BD-1033-454E-B835-E342CAD8FB6E@comcast.net> Pffftt.. get thee to Wal-Mart and pick up the bulk pack of earplugs found in the outdoor section. They give you a nice 27 dB attenuation and in the right frequencies. You can still hear music enough to enjoy and you don't spend your time listening to wind /tire/ exhaust noises. Lester On Jun 26, 2007, at 7:04 PM, Chris King wrote: > Well, after the 3 hour ride home from the OSHIT on Sunday, my ears > were > ringing for several hours that night. > > I've come to the realization that I need a quieter muffler. Yeah, I'm > wussing out, but I'd rather not go deaf on next year's trip to > Missouri, > and maybe hear some tunes, too. > > So, any recommendations of a muffler with a nice sporty sound, but > quieter than a glasspack? :) > > TIA > > -=Chris > > Chris King > http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Jun 27 10:17:00 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 12:17:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires Message-ID: <20070627161700.FFTX5730.tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Man! If running that size tires on that size wheels solves world problems, I gotta get me some!! ;) Hmmm! But, what would we talk about? Oh well, I guess that wouldn't be a problem either! RD ( the driveler ) > From: "Jack Laird" > Honest, I am running the 155s on orginal wheels, not a problem in the world. From dbcooper292 at aol.com Wed Jun 27 10:24:22 2007 From: dbcooper292 at aol.com (dbcooper292 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 12:24:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Auto darkening Welding Shields In-Reply-To: <000c01c7b8ae$1a5b7490$4f125db0$@com> References: <205cef430706262029j16ada8b8u245eac98369363b9@mail.gmail.com> <000c01c7b8ae$1a5b7490$4f125db0$@com> Message-ID: <8C986EEC115E6B0-794-DDB@mblk-r23.sysops.aol.com> there are things you do with cheap sh*t and things you don't.? You don't jack up something heavy then go under it, you don't trust your eyes to it. -----Original Message----- From: Wm. Severin Thompson To: 'Linda Grunthaner' ; 'Spridget' Sent: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 7:27 am Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Auto darkening Welding Shields Lin, I tried one of those cheapie auto darkening helmets from Harbor Freight.. it was sh*t. I paid the dough for a good one after that. WST -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 10:30 PM To: Spridget Subject: [Spridgets] Auto darkening Welding Shields List, Today I finally went to the local welding shop in a neighboring town and had them hold a Lincoln MIG welder 135 (couldn't pick it up on my motorcycle) it is last years model on sale about $100. off list ether way it is still expensive at $465. but I was tired of bidding on eBay for one. It comes with the gas gauges & hoses & I'll have to purchase the gas cylinder as an extra purchase. I laughed at the hand held shield that came with the welder and asked to see some better shields so the sales man (son of owner of store) showed me an auto darkening shield and gave me a demo of how they work and I was so impressed with how quickly they activate with a spark he produced as they operate with a solar cell to darken (Reaction time: 0.005 second on eBay model) but the cheapest one he had is $150. and I told him I would take one. When I got home I thought I would check on eBay and see they are selling the shields for and was surprised that they are selling between $25. and $60. Are the eBay auto darkening shields any good? The one I am looking at right now states it meets ANSE Z87 standards. 170122073859 . Lin 62 California Sprite "Pinky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner _______________________________________________ dbcooper292 at aol.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. From jlaird237 at cox.net Wed Jun 27 11:01:53 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 12:01:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires References: <20070627161700.FFTX5730.tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <004d01c7b8dc$dcac8c40$6401a8c0@personal> No probs in the world cause I am retired. If it dosn't get done today I think about tomorrow. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tires > Man! If running that size tires on that size wheels solves world > problems, I gotta get me some!! ;) > > Hmmm! But, what would we talk about? Oh well, I guess that wouldn't be a > problem either! > > RD > ( the driveler ) > >> From: "Jack Laird" >> Honest, I am running the 155s on orginal wheels, not a problem in the >> world. > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.9/870 - Release Date: 6/26/2007 > 10:07 AM From John.Deikis at va.gov Wed Jun 27 11:05:24 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:05:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may Message-ID: I tried to post awhile back-when the thread started getting out of hand, but don't think I made it. I have a Phantom Grip on my vintage race car. Bill Perry told me it was essentially a "torque sensing device" and would limit inside wheel slip until the inside wheel lost all traction. He said at that point there was "zero torque" so the Phantom Grip did nothing. I'm trying to understand this. Can someone explain in simple terms how the Phantom Grip spring-operated clutches work in different low traction situations? Or maybe steer me to a link with decent explanation? Thanks. JohnD From Daniel1312 at aol.com Wed Jun 27 11:14:50 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:14:50 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] timing chain cover Message-ID: Mini & Metro - I don't have one - suppose you'd want the crank pulley to match - don't have one either. In a message dated 27/06/07 03:40:09 GMT Daylight Time, BCAH at aol.com writes: > Hello,-------isn't there an "A" series engine which has the timing pointer > > at the top and will fit all of 'em? Bob C From Daniel1312 at aol.com Wed Jun 27 11:14:56 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:14:56 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Tires Message-ID: I've managed 175/70s on a 4" rim. In a message dated 27/06/07 04:36:18 GMT Daylight Time, dwoerpel at wi.net writes: > 155's on a 4" rim From Daniel1312 at aol.com Wed Jun 27 11:15:00 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:15:00 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust wrap Message-ID: Wow, I'm agreeing with Derf again even though I think Derf and Cap'n Bob are the same person! (no offence Cap'n). In a message dated 27/06/07 02:41:57 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: > Ceramic coating is the way to go, inside and out. Wraps trap moisture that > will corrode your headers to pieces. A good ceramic coating job will look > good and improve header life tremendously. > Cheers, > Derf From peter at nosimport.com Wed Jun 27 11:22:41 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 12:22:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust wrap In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070627122133.01bafeb8@nosimport.com> At 12:15 PM 6/27/2007, Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: >Wow, I'm agreeing with Derf again even though I think Derf and Cap'n Bob are >the same person! (no offence Cap'n). ---- Can't be. Otherwise Bob would be spelled boB From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Jun 27 11:37:23 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:37:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust wrap Message-ID: <20070627173723.GALO6941.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> No, it would be Bob. That's Bob spelled backwards, but with the capitalization on the last letter that is now in the first position. Like this: Trebor > From: Peter C > At 12:15 PM 6/27/2007, Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: > > >Wow, I'm agreeing with Derf again even though I think Derf and Cap'n Bob are > >the same person! (no offence Cap'n). > ---- > Can't be. > > Otherwise Bob would be spelled boB From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 27 11:40:04 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 11:40:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706271040l5de8a166uec104252cc82a98a@mail.gmail.com> Go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_(mechanics) Look at the top right picture. Your Phantom grip applies pressure to the green gears in the pic, discouraging their rotation. This, in turn, makes the wheels want to turn at the same rate. If one wheel comes off the ground, the power going to the wheel still on the ground is then determined by the amount of force that your Phantom applies. The Phantom makes it harder for the planetary gears in a diff to turn. If you lock those planetary gears, you have a spool or full positive traction. It helps to first understand how a standard diff works and then see the effect of the Phantom. Cheers, Derf From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jun 27 11:41:47 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 12:41:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] timing chain cover References: Message-ID: <014301c7b8e2$6fab3780$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >> Hello,-------isn't there an "A" series engine which has the timing >> pointer What Rivergate does is to make a simple pointer from flat stock and attach it to the motor mount plate, then cut grooves across the edge of the harmonic for 0, 10, 20, and 30 degrees. Works great for me! David Lieb From type79 at ix.netcom.com Wed Jun 27 11:44:08 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:44:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust wrap Message-ID: <808841.1182966248766.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Or: "Maps" (Not to be confused with that used to find one's way.) Yaj Niebhsif Drofgnillaw, TC -----Original Message----- >From: Peter C >Sent: Jun 27, 2007 1:22 PM >To: Daniel1312 at aol.com >Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] exhaust wrap Can't be. Otherwise Bob would be spelled boB >At 12:15 PM 6/27/2007, Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: > >>Wow, I'm agreeing with Derf again even though I think Derf and Cap'n Bob are the same person! (no offence Cap'n). >---- From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 27 11:45:15 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 11:45:15 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust wrap In-Reply-To: <20070627173723.GALO6941.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20070627173723.GALO6941.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706271045j693cd464j5bace9dc71598502@mail.gmail.com> I think the cap'n is older than me(coot?) and was a pilot. Why not "No offence, Derf?" From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Jun 27 11:50:53 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:50:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires Message-ID: <20070627175053.QIQP25465.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Re tired? What size now? > From: "Jack Laird" > > No probs in the world cause I am retired. If it dosn't get done today I > think about tomorrow. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Duquette" > > > Man! If running that size tires on that size wheels solves world > > problems, I gotta get me some!! ;) > > > > Hmmm! But, what would we talk about? Oh well, I guess that wouldn't be a > > problem either! > > > > RD > > ( the driveler ) > > > >> From: "Jack Laird" > >> Honest, I am running the 155s on orginal wheels, not a problem in the > >> world. > > _______________________________________________ > > jlaird237 at cox.net > > > > Edit your replies > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.9/870 - Release Date: 6/26/2007 > > 10:07 AM From jlaird237 at cox.net Wed Jun 27 12:18:25 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:18:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires References: <20070627175053.QIQP25465.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <001a01c7b8e7$8d83cdd0$6401a8c0@personal> Heh, less than when I was working. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tires > Re tired? What size now? > >> From: "Jack Laird" >> >> No probs in the world cause I am retired. If it dosn't get done today I >> think about tomorrow. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Robert Duquette" >> >> > Man! If running that size tires on that size wheels solves world >> > problems, I gotta get me some!! ;) >> > >> > Hmmm! But, what would we talk about? Oh well, I guess that wouldn't >> > be a >> > problem either! >> > >> > RD >> > ( the driveler ) >> > >> >> From: "Jack Laird" >> >> Honest, I am running the 155s on orginal wheels, not a problem in the >> >> world. >> > _______________________________________________ >> > jlaird237 at cox.net >> > >> > Edit your replies >> > >> > http://www.team.net/archive >> > >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > >> > >> > -- >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.9/870 - Release Date: >> > 6/26/2007 >> > 10:07 AM > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.9/870 - Release Date: 6/26/2007 > 10:07 AM From Daniel1312 at aol.com Wed Jun 27 12:19:07 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:19:07 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Exhaust coating Message-ID: I had my new CV manifold (janspeed has a jig now so can make to order) coated inside and out. As far as I know they dipped the inside or maybe just poured it in waited and poured out what didn't stick. The inlet manifold is only coated on the outside. I have a piece of stainless pipe to run from the exhaust manifold to the silencer. Daniel 1312 In a message dated 27/06/07 15:05:56 GMT Daylight Time, robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes: > is coated on the outside only From Daniel1312 at aol.com Wed Jun 27 12:40:01 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:40:01 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may Message-ID: What Bill says is borne out by my own experience. The Phantom Grip device works like a Torsen diff NOT a clutch plate diff. What this means is that when one wheel trys to rotate faster than the other the Phantom Grip resists it and trys to keep both wheels turning at the same speed. The effect in any situation is that the rear of the car will seek to step out towards the right (don't know why it's always to the right). In this respect the Phantom Grip action is just like the Quaife Automatic Torque Biasing diff which they are not allowed to call a Torsen because if they do Gleason will sue them. I personally consider it's unhelpful to think of the Phantom Grip as having clutch devices as this can lead to confusion with the action of a clutch plate limited slip diff which is quite a different thing altogether. A clutch plate limited slip diff like a ZF seeks to switch power from the wheel that has less grip to the wheel that has more which invariably overloads that wheel and thus reverses the power back again and so as this cycle repeats the rear of the car fishtails as the wheels fight for grip. In a message dated 27/06/07 18:06:05 GMT Daylight Time, John.Deikis at va.gov writes: > I have a Phantom Grip on my vintage race car. Bill Perry told me it was > essentially a "torque sensing device" and would limit inside wheel slip > until the inside wheel lost all traction. He said at that point there > was "zero torque" so the Phantom Grip did nothing. > > I'm trying to understand this. > > Can someone explain in simple terms how the Phantom Grip spring-operated > clutches work in different low traction situations? From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jun 27 12:54:25 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:54:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may References: Message-ID: <015f01c7b8ec$958e6bc0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > What Bill says is borne out by my own experience. The Phantom Grip device > works like a Torsen diff NOT a clutch plate diff. What I want to know is, if I break an axle, will the Phantom Grip allow me to limp home? From John.Deikis at va.gov Wed Jun 27 13:01:28 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:01:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Daniel: Torsen? Gleason? Quaife? Are you trying to pick a fight?! ;-) Be that as it may, why would Bill say that if I lift the inside rear wheel in a turn, the Phantom Grip will no longer provide any benefit? JohnD ________________________________ From: Daniel1312 at aol.com [mailto:Daniel1312 at aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 2:40 PM To: Deikis, John G; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may What Bill says is borne out by my own experience. The Phantom Grip device works like a Torsen diff NOT a clutch plate diff. What this means is that when one wheel trys to rotate faster than the other the Phantom Grip resists it and trys to keep both wheels turning at the same speed. The effect in any situation is that the rear of the car will seek to step out towards the right (don't know why it's always to the right). In this respect the Phantom Grip action is just like the Quaife Automatic Torque Biasing diff which they are not allowed to call a Torsen because if they do Gleason will sue them. I personally consider it's unhelpful to think of the Phantom Grip as having clutch devices as this can lead to confusion with the action of a clutch plate limited slip diff which is quite a different thing altogether. A clutch plate limited slip diff like a ZF seeks to switch power from the wheel that has less grip to the wheel that has more which invariably overloads that wheel and thus reverses the power back again and so as this cycle repeats the rear of the car fishtails as the wheels fight for grip. In a message dated 27/06/07 18:06:05 GMT Daylight Time, John.Deikis at va.gov writes: I have a Phantom Grip on my vintage race car. Bill Perry told me it was essentially a "torque sensing device" and would limit inside wheel slip until the inside wheel lost all traction. He said at that point there was "zero torque" so the Phantom Grip did nothing. I'm trying to understand this. Can someone explain in simple terms how the Phantom Grip spring-operated clutches work in different low traction situations? From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Jun 27 13:05:38 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:05:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may Message-ID: <20070627190539.GQAU6941.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> I'll probably get kicked off the list before the day's over, but what the hey!! I don't see why you couldn't limp home, if you wanted to, with or without a Phantom Grip. I'm not sure what good that would do your car though?? ;) RD > From: "David Lieb" > > What I want to know is, if I break an axle, will the Phantom Grip > allow me to limp home? From davriker at digitalpath.net Wed Jun 27 13:14:16 2007 From: davriker at digitalpath.net (David Riker) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 12:14:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may References: <015f01c7b8ec$958e6bc0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <003201c7b8ef$5b170bc0$6400a8c0@dave> I won't talk about what I don't know, but about what I do know. Chevrolet Trucks use a differential made by Eaton called a G80 Locker. They have a demonstration trailer with rollers on one side to simulate loss of traction on that side. They then drive Toyotas, Fords, Dodges, and Nissans up the trailer. As soon as the trucks hit the rollers, they stop moving and the wheel on the side of the rollers spins uncontrollably. All of those trucks claim to have a "limited slip differential". Only the Chevrolet with the Eaton locker continue to climb the trailer. So from what I've seen, unless it is actually a "locking differential" all the torque sensing BS is just that..... BS. As soon as there is 0 traction, ie a broken axle, a wheel off the ground, etc, nothing is going to happen. The Eaton system uses centrifugal force of the spinning wheel to lock the two axles together when slip is encountered. All the rest are smoke and mirrors. David Riker davriker at digitalpath.net http://community.webshots.com/user/fool4mg http://www.myspace.com/fool4mg ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridget List" Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may >> What Bill says is borne out by my own experience. The Phantom Grip >> device >> works like a Torsen diff NOT a clutch plate diff. > > What I want to know is, if I break an axle, will the Phantom Grip > allow me to limp home? > _______________________________________________ From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 27 13:23:51 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:23:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706271223g1172112egf40d6f7736d2120@mail.gmail.com> > The effect in any situation is that the rear of the car will seek to > step out towards the right (don't know why it's always to the right). It goes to the right because of the "Right Hand Rule" of physics, I think. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-hand_rule Isn't that also why NASCAR turns left? And propellers turn the way they turn? While the Phantom may not be a clutch type, it does rely on friction to work properly. I refer to this pic again: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Differential_free.png Instead of using clutch discs to resist the different turning rates of the axles (red and yellow gears) the Phantom acts similarly on the planetary(green)gears. In the clutch type, the clutches act on the axle gears. The Phantom acts on the planetary gears, to achieve the same goal. The Phantom is essentially a clutch, with spring pack and friction plates, but Mr. Daniel is ardent in stating that it behaves differently, therefore is NOT considered a "clutch type" LSD. The goal of the LSD is to provide maximum traction, with both wheels providing power to the ground, while allowing wheels to turn at slightly different rates when cornering. Why, if you jack up an open diff car and turn one wheel, does the other wheel turn the opposite direction? Understand this, and regular differential action and then the way the Phantom works will be apparent. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 27 13:33:20 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:33:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may In-Reply-To: <20070627190539.GQAU6941.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20070627190539.GQAU6941.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706271233t48f8c118j39630564e8760abf@mail.gmail.com> The open diff will seek to turn the side with the least resistance. If one side is very easy to turn (broken axle) then it won't bother trying to turn the other. If you have a Phantom it will try to turn both, until the force of the spring pack and plates against the planetary gears is overcome. I think you might be able to limp home with a Phantom, if you accelerate very slowly. I haven't used a Phantom so I'm not sure on this. Good question for Phantom users and sellers. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jun 27 13:36:13 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:36:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may References: <20070627190539.GQAU6941.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <016801c7b8f2$6c3c8350$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Well, I do know that without the PG, a vigorous launch tends to spin only the right rear tire; With the PG, I can smoke both rear tires simultaneously. From Daniel1312 at aol.com Wed Jun 27 13:38:58 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:38:58 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may Message-ID: When other 'person' tested the Phantom Grip for me and snapped a halfshaft in the process at the diff end I believe they were able to limp for a few miles. I guess the real question is how far is home? In a message dated 27/06/07 19:54:42 GMT Daylight Time, dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes: > What I want to know is, if I break an axle, will the Phantom Grip > allow me to limp home? From Daniel1312 at aol.com Wed Jun 27 13:40:19 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:40:19 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may Message-ID: The Quaife needs residual torque to work so I guess Bill is saying the same thing applies to the Phantom. In a message dated 27/06/07 20:01:44 GMT Daylight Time, John.Deikis at va.gov writes: > Be that as it may, why would Bill say that if I lift the inside rear wheel > in a turn, the Phantom Grip will no longer provide any benefit? > > > > JohnD From Daniel1312 at aol.com Wed Jun 27 13:42:52 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:42:52 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may Message-ID: That's true for the Quaife but the only time you get that generally is with an airborne wheel or a zero grip road surface. Most of the time in slippery conditions there is some grip however small so the Quaife will work. In a message dated 27/06/07 20:14:48 GMT Daylight Time, davriker at digitalpath.net writes: > As soon as there is 0 traction, ie a broken axle, a wheel off > the ground, etc, nothing is going to happen. From Daniel1312 at aol.com Wed Jun 27 13:50:55 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:50:55 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may Message-ID: You still don't get it. This is nothing to do with my opinion. The Torsen/Quaife/Phantom Grip does not switch power from one wheel to the other but locks both together. A clutch plate differential switches power to the wheel with grip and takes it away from the wheel without grip. If you associate a Phantom Grip device with a clutch plate diff you are sure to come away confused. You have to understand it's not that I say a Torsen/Quaife/Phantom Grip behaves differently from a clutch plate diff it is RATHER THAT THEY SIMPLY DO BEHAVE DIFFERENTLY. I also have personal experience that confirmed this behaviour. YOU ARE WRONG to say that the goal of the LSD is provide maximum traction, with both wheels providing power to the ground etc. The goal of the LSD is to switch power to the wheel with the most grip with the limitations on how much it can switch being determined by the design of the diff mechanism (which can be varied). The goal of the Torsen/Quaife/Phantom Grip is to prevent one wheel spinning more than the other but it cannot switch power to the wheel with more grip. In a message dated 27/06/07 20:24:07 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: > In the clutch type, the clutches act on the axle gears. The Phantom acts > on the planetary gears, to achieve the same goal. The Phantom is essentially > a clutch, with spring pack and friction plates, but Mr. Daniel is ardent in > stating that it behaves differently, therefore is NOT considered a "clutch > type" LSD. > > The goal of the LSD is to provide maximum traction, with both wheels > providing power to the ground, while allowing wheels to turn at slightly different > rates when cornering. From Daniel1312 at aol.com Wed Jun 27 14:13:35 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:13:35 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Smoking start Message-ID: Yup and do you get just a slight twitch to the right? In a message dated 27/06/07 20:36:52 GMT Daylight Time, dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes: > Well, I do know that without the PG, a vigorous launch tends to spin > only the right rear tire; With the PG, I can smoke both rear tires > simultaneously. From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 27 14:14:46 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:14:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706271314y73ebcae4i49ab4ed186ad127a@mail.gmail.com> First, I didn't say it was your opinion. I said you ardently stated. I don't understand the "switching" power from one wheel to the other in a clutch type diff. Please enlighten me on this. The clutches can only resist the axles turning at different rates. If on wheel is off the ground, the other wheel will only get power equal to or less than the power required to make the clutches slip. Unless you have a locking clutch type, then that is a different beast. But, the locking clutch type just locks both axles together and doesn't do any "switching". How does the switching occur? Pinion turns ring, ring turns cage......... Break it down for me please. Cheers, Derf From Daniel1312 at aol.com Wed Jun 27 14:40:29 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:40:29 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Driving diffs Message-ID: Go to some used car dealers and look around the stock till you find an older BMW M series. Check it has the Clutch plate type LSD which is probably a ZF product. Ask to drive the car on a test drive. Find a suitable quiet road or car park. Select first gear, rev the engine to 6000rpm, count to 3 and dump the clutch. Hold the steering wheel tight in the dead ahead position and keep your throttle foot flat to the floor. The car should fish-tail at the rear from side to side as the diff looks for the wheel with the most grip. This works better in the wet. Return the car to the used car dealer and tell them you liked the car but you think that maybe you'd like an Audi Quattro or 2WD Audi 8O or something. Find a used car dealer that has an Audi Quattro or some other car that has the Torsen diff though if you can be certain it has a Quaife that will suffice. Ask to drive the car on a test drive. Find a suitable quiet road or car park. Select first gear, rev the engine to 6000rpm, count to 3 and dump the clutch. Be ready to apply a lot of opposite lock very quickly or if you are really clever hold the car in a very tail out sideways attitude and feather back the throttle until the car straightens out. This doesn't work better in the wet. Return the car to the used car dealer and tell them you liked the car but you think you might need something a little more sedate. Return home and post comments to the list. Regards Daniel1312 Incidentally I've been trying to unsubscribe for a couple days now as I'm not only going away but I'll be busy when I get back so might not be able to get back on the list until the Autumn ... so anyone want to try and unsubscribe me? In a message dated 27/06/07 21:15:04 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: > I don't understand the "switching" power from one wheel to the other in a > clutch type diff. Please enlighten me on this. From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 27 14:43:14 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:43:14 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may In-Reply-To: <4454.75.49.210.205.1182975382.squirrel@www.thicko.com> References: <5f00d9910706271223g1172112egf40d6f7736d2120@mail.gmail.com> <4454.75.49.210.205.1182975382.squirrel@www.thicko.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706271343p62a3259dnaa8bf4feddd02eab@mail.gmail.com> Welded diffs, OK for racing but not best for street use, no? From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 27 14:46:03 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:46:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Driving diffs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910706271346p6f5a70a1k8ca6cbd84349c244@mail.gmail.com> OK, I can surely take your word for the action/reaction and real time color commentary of the events. But, I need to know why. What goes on in the diff during all the fun to make the things do what they do? I'll keep searching and reading until the light comes on. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jun 27 15:03:51 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:03:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706271343p62a3259dnaa8bf4feddd02eab@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910706271223g1172112egf40d6f7736d2120@mail.gmail.com> <4454.75.49.210.205.1182975382.squirrel@www.thicko.com> <5f00d9910706271343p62a3259dnaa8bf4feddd02eab@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I understand that the best way to accomplish a welded diff, is to pour melted lead on the gears to lock them. Then, you can apply heat to remove the lead at a later date, should you so require. Brad On 6/27/07, derf wrote: > Welded diffs, OK for racing but not best for street use, no? > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Jun 27 15:11:20 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:11:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may In-Reply-To: References: <5f00d9910706271223g1172112egf40d6f7736d2120@mail.gmail.com> <4454.75.49.210.205.1182975382.squirrel@www.thicko.com> <5f00d9910706271343p62a3259dnaa8bf4feddd02eab@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <35B8DF91-82E6-4AAD-BCA1-55D50D575221@comcast.net> The rules of many racing groups do not allow a welded or limited slip diff. They do not, however, have any limitations on the size of the shims / washers / spacers that you can cram in between the gear mounting. Won't last forever but will get you through most of a pro- rally.. Lester .. well, you did mention racing.. On Jun 27, 2007, at 4:03 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > I understand that the best way to accomplish a welded diff, is to pour > melted lead on the gears to lock them. Then, you can apply heat to > remove the lead at a later date, should you so require. > > Brad > > On 6/27/07, derf wrote: >> Welded diffs, OK for racing but not best for street use, no? >> _______________________________________________ >> tequila.brad at gmail.com From Daniel1312 at aol.com Wed Jun 27 15:16:05 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:16:05 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Driving diffs Message-ID: Get first hand practical experience first and then you know for yourself there is marked difference. Get a lot of experience and you'll find that whether it's a ZF, Gripper, Trannex or whatever clutch plate diff they are all much of a muchness. Get some experience of a Torsen, a Quaife and a Phantom Grip and you'll see that they are a different kind of a much of a muchness. I'haven't found a ZF site with the info I am looking for but now I have a printer/scanner I might get chance oneday to scan some info I have if I can find the info. The welded diff acts a lot like a Torsen/Quaife only it doesn't care if you have zero grip such as when you lift a wheel. If you drive it on the street one wheel will skip or snatch and if there is no background noise you can hear this - a car at the Autocross at Sprite Spree 2003 had a welded diff and I could hear a wheel skip when it turned slowly. A trained ear can guesstimate the setup ratio of a diff - I heard speculation of this nature 3-4 years ago when the LeMans Bentley was driven out of the pit lane garage. Regards Daniel1312 In a message dated 27/06/07 21:46:09 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: > OK, I can surely take your word for the action/reaction and real time color > commentary of the events. > But, I need to know why. What goes on in the diff during all the fun to > make the things do what they do? > I'll keep searching and reading until the light comes on. From John.Deikis at va.gov Wed Jun 27 15:17:56 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:17:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may In-Reply-To: <015f01c7b8ec$958e6bc0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <015f01c7b8ec$958e6bc0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: I can tell you from Gingerman last May...a broken axle means you come into the paddock on a hook. -----Original Message----- From: David Lieb [mailto:dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 2:54 PM To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may > What Bill says is borne out by my own experience. The Phantom Grip device > works like a Torsen diff NOT a clutch plate diff. What I want to know is, if I break an axle, will the Phantom Grip allow me to limp home? From Daniel1312 at aol.com Wed Jun 27 15:18:05 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:18:05 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may Message-ID: And if they have a Quaife or Phantom Grip and the tech officials use a set of rollers to check the diff is an 'open' diff it won't get detected - only a strip down will establish that. In a message dated 27/06/07 22:11:45 GMT Daylight Time, oldsaabguy at comcast.net writes: > The rules of many racing groups do not allow a welded or limited slip > diff. They do not, however, have any limitations on the size of the > shims / washers / spacers that you can cram in between the gear > mounting. Won't last forever but will get you through most of a pro- > rally.. > > Lester > > .. well, you did mention racing.. From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jun 27 15:17:28 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:17:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Auto darkening Welding Shields In-Reply-To: <205cef430706262029j16ada8b8u245eac98369363b9@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430706262029j16ada8b8u245eac98369363b9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4682D3E8.9040708@comcast.net> Linda I have one of those auto darkening helmet. I don't like it, it cost me about $125 a couple years ago. If you want it, I would be happy to see it get used. It's just taking up space in the garage. It might need new batterys by now. It is an automatic on/off setup so maybe the battery (s) are still good. But it's yours if you want it. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From John.Deikis at va.gov Wed Jun 27 15:19:26 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:19:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may In-Reply-To: <20070627190539.GQAU6941.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20070627190539.GQAU6941.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: You could probably go home on all fours, barking and panting. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Duquette [mailto:robertduquette at sympatico.ca] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 3:06 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may I'll probably get kicked off the list before the day's over, but what the hey!! I don't see why you couldn't limp home, if you wanted to, with or without a Phantom Grip. I'm not sure what good that would do your car though?? ;) RD > From: "David Lieb" > > What I want to know is, if I break an axle, will the Phantom Grip > allow me to limp home? From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jun 27 15:19:39 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:19:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires In-Reply-To: <000801c7b86d$4b43d070$6401a8c0@personal> References: <4681C1C0.000009.02908@TOSHIBA-USER><001101c7b863$f04427a0$6401a8c0@personal> <4681DB1E.2050905@wi.net> <000801c7b86d$4b43d070$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: <4682D46B.2010609@comcast.net> Jack Laird wrote: > Of course. > > The orginals were 145s that's not much difference. Now Now, "originals" were 520 13s in a bias ply. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From John.Deikis at va.gov Wed Jun 27 15:24:35 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:24:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706271223g1172112egf40d6f7736d2120@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910706271223g1172112egf40d6f7736d2120@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 3:24 PM Derf: I do understand that...and I still don't understand why the Phantom Grip STOPS limiting spin when the wheel loses ALL traction (i.e., lifts on the inside of a fast sharp turn. John To: Daniel1312 at aol.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may Why, if you jack up an open diff car and turn one wheel, does the other wheel turn the opposite direction? Understand this, and regular differential action and then the way the Phantom works will be apparent. Cheers, Derf From John.Deikis at va.gov Wed Jun 27 15:26:14 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:26:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706271233t48f8c118j39630564e8760abf@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070627190539.GQAU6941.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <5f00d9910706271233t48f8c118j39630564e8760abf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Broken axle, no power to either wheel--good side or bad-- Phantom Grip or not. I know. -----Original Message----- From: derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 3:33 PM To: Robert Duquette Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may The open diff will seek to turn the side with the least resistance. If one side is very easy to turn (broken axle) then it won't bother trying to turn the other. If you have a Phantom it will try to turn both, until the force of the spring pack and plates against the planetary gears is overcome. I think you might be able to limp home with a Phantom, if you accelerate very slowly. I haven't used a Phantom so I'm not sure on this. Good question for Phantom users and sellers. From Daniel1312 at aol.com Wed Jun 27 15:28:15 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:28:15 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Wheel lifting Message-ID: It's getting late and I still need someone to subscribe me from the list. But, I'll take a shot at this and say if one wheel has zero grip the other wheel cannot work against it. The wheel with grip is driven by the engine the other wheel follows it round? In a message dated 27/06/07 22:24:53 GMT Daylight Time, John.Deikis at va.gov writes: > why the Phantom Grip > STOPS limiting spin when the wheel loses ALL traction (i.e., lifts on > the inside of a fast sharp turn. From Daniel1312 at aol.com Wed Jun 27 15:30:50 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:30:50 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may Message-ID: Not necessarily so. One reason the European rally cars right down to clubman/amateur status like the clutch plate diff is that if a halfshaft/driveshaft/axle breaks they can still limp out of a special stage to the service area. For the very same reason they are loathe to use a Quaife/Torsen. Where is Alan East-Jones - he works for Ferguson! Daniel1312 - still hoping to get off the list. In a message dated 27/06/07 22:26:45 GMT Daylight Time, John.Deikis at va.gov writes: > Broken axle, no power to either wheel--good side or bad-- Phantom Grip > or not. I know. From refisk at chartermi.net Wed Jun 27 15:40:10 2007 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:40:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may References: Message-ID: <017901c7b903$bcdd03f0$6401a8c0@refisk> John has the competition version of the Phantom Grip installed in his Midget race car. When he broke the left axle at Gingerman raceway last May he had to be towed back to the paddock. The car would not move under it's own power. We got the broken axle out and a replacement installed in about twenty minutes. John took off for the false grid for his next heat and realized at the last minute that we had forgotten to reinstall one "kind of important" piece when we put it back together. We had everything in there except the brake drum. LOL Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; Cc: Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may > Not necessarily so. One reason the European rally cars right down to > clubman/amateur status like the clutch plate diff is that if a > halfshaft/driveshaft/axle breaks they can still limp out of a special > stage to the service area. > For the very same reason they are loathe to use a Quaife/Torsen. > > Where is Alan East-Jones - he works for Ferguson! From Daniel1312 at aol.com Wed Jun 27 15:49:18 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:49:18 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Broken diffs Message-ID: The competion version of the Phantom Grip is the same as the regular version only with stiffer springs. I don't doubt what you both say only that my experience (my friends) was different. I've e-mailed John a photo that shows what was left of the halfshaft/axle at the diff end and speculate it was jammed in so tight with a lot of debris that what was how the driver managed to limp to a garage. The remains of the halfshaft/axle were not easily removed. In a message dated 27/06/07 22:40:36 GMT Daylight Time, refisk at chartermi.net writes: > John has the competition version of the Phantom Grip installed in his > Midget > race car. When he broke the left axle at Gingerman raceway last May he had > to be towed back to the paddock. The car would not move under it's own > power. > > We got the broken axle out and a replacement installed in about twenty > minutes. John took off for the false grid for his next heat and realized at > > the last minute that we had forgotten to reinstall one "kind of important" > piece when we put it back together. We had everything in there except the > brake drum. LOL > > Rick From refisk at chartermi.net Wed Jun 27 15:56:32 2007 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:56:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Broken diffs References: Message-ID: <018c01c7b906$065eb1c0$6401a8c0@refisk> Daniel, John's axle broke cleanly at the hub end and the pieces were easily removed. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel1312 at aol.com To: refisk at chartermi.net ; spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 5:49 PM Subject: Broken diffs The competion version of the Phantom Grip is the same as the regular version only with stiffer springs. I don't doubt what you both say only that my experience (my friends) was different. I've e-mailed John a photo that shows what was left of the halfshaft/axle at the diff end and speculate it was jammed in so tight with a lot of debris that what was how the driver managed to limp to a garage. The remains of the halfshaft/axle were not easily removed. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Jun 27 16:16:38 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:16:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Auto darkening Welding Shields In-Reply-To: <4682D3E8.9040708@comcast.net> References: <205cef430706262029j16ada8b8u245eac98369363b9@mail.gmail.com> <4682D3E8.9040708@comcast.net> Message-ID: <77A31B03-CF13-433D-ADB4-5DBEA08565C9@comcast.net> Speaking of which, the HF units use a rechargeable battery. If you haven't used it in a while it is a good thing to put it out in the sunlight or under a bright lamp for a bit. That little bit of info changed my evaluation of mine way up from POS. Lester On Jun 27, 2007, at 4:17 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > Linda > > I have one of those auto darkening helmet. > I don't like it, it cost me about $125 a couple years ago. > If you want it, I would be happy to see it get used. > It's just taking up space in the garage. > It might need new batterys by now. It is an automatic on/off setup so > maybe the battery (s) are still good. > But it's yours if you want it. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Wed Jun 27 16:57:07 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:57:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires References: <4681C1C0.000009.02908@TOSHIBA-USER> <60324o$c2r1b@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <010a01c7b90e$7f5c3ae0$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> Must be quite good as I know a ton to Big Healeys & MGBs running them, Tim. And what I plan to get in the near future for mine and Wife's B. From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Wed Jun 27 17:18:22 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:18:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Auto darkening Welding Shields References: <205cef430706262029j16ada8b8u245eac98369363b9@mail.gmail.com><4682D3E8.9040708@comcast.net> <77A31B03-CF13-433D-ADB4-5DBEA08565C9@comcast.net> Message-ID: <05bf01c7b911$75ccff20$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Hi Lester, No rechargeable battery in my HF hood. Have had it about 5 or 6 years now. My only complaint is it's too sensitive to light and darkens when I want to look at something on my bench. No adjustment for that. Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "oldsaabguy" Cc: "Spridget List" Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Auto darkening Welding Shields > Speaking of which, the HF units use a rechargeable battery. If you > haven't used it in a while it is a good thing to put it out in the > sunlight or under a bright lamp for a bit. That little bit of info > changed my evaluation of mine way up from POS. > > Lester > > > On Jun 27, 2007, at 4:17 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > > > Linda > > > > I have one of those auto darkening helmet. > > I don't like it, it cost me about $125 a couple years ago. > > If you want it, I would be happy to see it get used. > > It's just taking up space in the garage. > > It might need new batterys by now. It is an automatic on/off setup so > > maybe the battery (s) are still good. > > But it's yours if you want it. > > > > -- > > Frank Clarici > > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Jun 27 17:18:21 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:18:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706271343p62a3259dnaa8bf4feddd02eab@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070627231821.12942.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- derf wrote: > Welded diffs, OK for racing but not best for street > use, no? Not at all suitable for the street!!!! You'll break axles parking the car. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html From pdx.pete at verizon.net Wed Jun 27 17:26:04 2007 From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (pdxpete) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:26:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Auto darkening Welding Shields References: <205cef430706262029j16ada8b8u245eac98369363b9@mail.gmail.com><4682D3E8.9040708@comcast.net> <77A31B03-CF13-433D-ADB4-5DBEA08565C9@comcast.net> <05bf01c7b911$75ccff20$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <009801c7b912$8bad2a80$430c6f47@DBKF4T81> And that's the part that drove me nuts about the one I had ! > My only complaint is it's too sensitive to light and darkens when I want > to > look at something on my bench. No adjustment for that. > > Paul A From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Jun 27 17:29:37 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:29:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] LBC hauler with sound room Message-ID: <382275.13387.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The old Boston Acoustics / Panoz trailer is on the SCCA boards for sale. This would work well for Zoom, I think. We should all chip in. Does the Ranchero have a fifth wheel??? http://prodracing.com/prodcar/viewtopic.php?t=7961 Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting From abcoz at hky.com Wed Jun 27 17:45:59 2007 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:45:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <01ba01c7b915$50437b40$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> John, Pittsburgh has always been "a very nice city", and was a lot "nicer" when the steel industry was still dominant......but, you had to be a native to understand and appreciate it properly. It's been a very well kept secret. The air was already pretty well cleaned-up by the time the first PVGP was run, in 1983, and had been since the late 50s, believe it or not. As technology improved, the air quality improved with it. Anyway, I hope to get out to Beaverun, this year, as well as my annual Schenley Park visit/volunteer service (British Car Day display). And, I hope you plan on being at Schenley Park, with your Spridget, too! Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Deikis, John G Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 12:50 PM To: Gerard Chateauvieux; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix Gerard: I hope to have a motor running for the PVGP opener at Beaver Run on 7th and 8th-- but you'll still be slowly spelling your name to the Transportation Psychotic Administration personnel at the Pittsburgh Airport. You'll have a great time at Schenley Park though, and Pgh has morphed into a really nice city since the steel industry moved to China, or Toms River, NJ, or wherever it went. If you get here early enough for Beaver Run, come out to the track. Red Midget with a white hardtop-- like the factory intended them to be raced. Spridgets are supposedly featured that weekend. JohnD -----Original Message----- From: Gerard Chateauvieux [mailto:pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 4:01 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix Hi friends, A friend of mine who moved from San Francisco to Pittsburgh, PA a couple years ago suprised me last weekend by inviting me for a week's stay in Pittsburgh. I thought I'd let you right coasters know I will be in your "neighborhood" during the week of the 8th through the 15th of July. I don't have exact dates yet, but that's pretty close to what it will be. If anyone would like to meet up, please let me know. I don't know if I'll make the '08 Sprite Anniversary yet, so... Gerard _______________________________________________ abcoz at hky.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Wed Jun 27 18:17:04 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:17:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC hauler with sound room References: <382275.13387.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <02e801c7b919$a926c600$6501a8c0@actualshop> << have a fifth wheel??? http://prodracing.com/prodcar/viewtopic.php?t=7961>> Kinda more looks like a hauler for Team White Trash and Team Thicko combo, Ron!!! Doesn't Flounder's Dodge have a 5th wheel?? Enquiring................... From jlaird237 at cox.net Wed Jun 27 18:31:36 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:31:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires References: <4681C1C0.000009.02908@TOSHIBA-USER><001101c7b863$f04427a0$6401a8c0@personal> <4681DB1E.2050905@wi.net> <000801c7b86d$4b43d070$6401a8c0@personal> <4682D46B.2010609@comcast.net> Message-ID: <002601c7b91b$af901760$6401a8c0@personal> Durn, they were 5.20-13 tubeless tyres. Sure thought 145, think I will blame it on a senior moment. Thats my story and I am sticking to it. Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" To: "Jack Laird" Cc: "David Woerpel" ; "Spridget List" Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tires > Jack Laird wrote: >> Of course. >> >> The orginals were 145s that's not much difference. > > Now Now, "originals" were 520 13s in a bias ply. > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: > 269.9.9/870 - Release Date: 6/26/2007 10:07 AM From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 27 20:22:52 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 20:22:52 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may In-Reply-To: <20070627231821.12942.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <5f00d9910706271343p62a3259dnaa8bf4feddd02eab@mail.gmail.com> <20070627231821.12942.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706271922n68705526k5e17bd4d858cef09@mail.gmail.com> > Not at all suitable for the street!!!! You'll break > axles parking the car. > > Ron > Not with those weenie homo tires they're talking about putting on those 4" rims. Do those 948s generate enough torque to break an axle? From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 27 20:24:18 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 20:24:18 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Auto darkening Welding Shields In-Reply-To: <009801c7b912$8bad2a80$430c6f47@DBKF4T81> References: <205cef430706262029j16ada8b8u245eac98369363b9@mail.gmail.com> <4682D3E8.9040708@comcast.net> <77A31B03-CF13-433D-ADB4-5DBEA08565C9@comcast.net> <05bf01c7b911$75ccff20$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <009801c7b912$8bad2a80$430c6f47@DBKF4T81> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706271924u4fabad36hf2673df2796bdb99@mail.gmail.com> I got a good auto-darkening insert for my cheap helmet. Works good for me. From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Wed Jun 27 20:28:02 2007 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 12:28:02 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] triger belt drive In-Reply-To: <010201c7b91e$c441ea00$0a01a8c0@jamescumming> Message-ID: <495390.62194.qm@web50612.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi Folks, would anyone have a copy of the instructions for fitting a Triger timing belt drive to an A-series engine? It looks straightforward enough when i have the bits layed out in front of me, but I just want to be sure... alternatively if anyone can recall some important points / tips, I'd be grateful. Thanks Andy --------------------------------- Yahoo!7 Mail has just got even bigger and better with unlimited storage on all webmail accounts. Find out more. From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Jun 27 20:36:27 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:36:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706271922n68705526k5e17bd4d858cef09@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070628023627.83764.qmail@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- derf wrote: > Do those 948s generate enough torque to break an > axle? Only 5 or 6 per weekend. With the locked diff, it's the "hopping" action on tight turns that'll snap 'em more than anything. You can do it on tires off your Schwinn, double bearing hubs and all. I just bought 4 BTA 806 axles for $19 total. They're cheap enough, but track time isn't! Ron Soave "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain ____________________________________________________________________________________Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Wed Jun 27 20:37:05 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:37:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust wrap In-Reply-To: <004a01c7b8c9$7bd3bdc0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <601991.53609.qm@web38912.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Glenn, I agree with you. I lived 7 blocks from the beach for years. I could not have fancy rims or paint on my car because of the marine layer in the mornings. I have a Toyota we used to laugh about because after the first year there was tiny rust holes in the window pillar at the seam and a few other places. The joke was i wonder what kind of can was welded in that spot. I started parking it out side after that and the rust proved it never sleeps. There was hole appearing all over even in the bed from the salt that settled with the marine layer in the morning. Now i live about two miles from the ocean in Fountain Valley. The accelerated rusting of our vehicles stopped. I see no rust at all on my 1996 Chevy that i got new when we moved here. So where you live even in the same area makes a big difference. My friend was out visiting from the mid-west. It was a real foggy day last winter. He said, i did not you guys got river fog. So i guess where he lives the rust would not be sleeping. LOL Vigil Glen Byrns wrote: I've used header wrap on the turbo exit pipe for years and haven't seen accelerated corrosion. I think the difference in experience across the country may be due to the climate conditions. When the header is hot and allowed to cool, moisture can only be drawn and condense on the wrap/header if there is moisture present. Those of us who pamper our cars with garage storage in California are driving our hot manifolds into a fairly moisture free environment for the "cool down". If I were parking my heated up Sprite by the beach or outside in high humidity, I suppose it would be more of a factor. As it is now, I'm quite sure the header pipe will outlive me. There is absolutely no question that it has made a difference in the under-bonnet temps. I only wrap the pipe exiting the turbo however, since wrapping the manifold before the turbo caused it to get so hot that the expansion increased the cracking problem with the original homemade manifold. The new one is thicker, better welded, and supported by a brace to take the turbo weight. No cracks yet! Glen Byrns > Hello all, I just finished reading an article about exhaust wrap which > basically said it would severely shorten the life of the header.In other > words, > "don't use it". Any thoughts out there? How about the coating for both > the > inside and outside of the pipe that I see advertised? Some kind of > ceramic ? > Summer is coming on and I need something to keep the heat down.Bob C _______________________________________________ uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 27 20:38:19 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 21:38:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may References: <5f00d9910706271343p62a3259dnaa8bf4feddd02eab@mail.gmail.com><20070627231821.12942.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5f00d9910706271922n68705526k5e17bd4d858cef09@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <04de01c7b92d$64a48940$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "Ron Soave" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may > Not at all suitable for the street!!!! You'll break > axles parking the car. > > Ron > Not with those weenie homo tires they're talking about putting on those 4" rims. Do those 948s generate enough torque to break an axle? _______________________________________________ "weenie homo tires"? Geez, at what point do the homophobes on this list give it up? You guys are getting sickening. Get a life and stfu. From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 27 20:55:05 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 20:55:05 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may In-Reply-To: <04de01c7b92d$64a48940$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <5f00d9910706271343p62a3259dnaa8bf4feddd02eab@mail.gmail.com> <20070627231821.12942.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5f00d9910706271922n68705526k5e17bd4d858cef09@mail.gmail.com> <04de01c7b92d$64a48940$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706271955p7eaf49d7x14037df5817fe3c4@mail.gmail.com> I'm just returning banter. Your delete key broken? Just because we make homo jokes doesn't mean we hate gays. We didn't mean to hurt your feelings. You and your rainbows are just as welcome here as anyone. I'm not a homophobe. My car doesn't define my masculinity. I find your comments more offensive than anything we've posted lately. We have lives and you are free to st_u yourself. > > > Geez, at what point do the homophobes on this list give it up? You guys > are > getting sickening. > > Get a life and stfu. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 27 21:02:28 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 22:02:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may References: <5f00d9910706271343p62a3259dnaa8bf4feddd02eab@mail.gmail.com> <20070627231821.12942.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5f00d9910706271922n68705526k5e17bd4d858cef09@mail.gmail.com> <04de01c7b92d$64a48940$6401a8c0@Larry> <5f00d9910706271955p7eaf49d7x14037df5817fe3c4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <04f601c7b930$c3f858b0$6401a8c0@Larry> Derf, perhaps we can meet sometime and "talk" about it. Then you can explain to me what you mean by rainbows. I will welcome the "discussion". Come and get it. ----- Original Message ----- From: derf To: Larry Daniels Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may I'm just returning banter. Your delete key broken? Just because we make homo jokes doesn't mean we hate gays. We didn't mean to hurt your feelings. You and your rainbows are just as welcome here as anyone. I'm not a homophobe. My car doesn't define my masculinity. I find your comments more offensive than anything we've posted lately. We have lives and you are free to st_u yourself. Geez, at what point do the homophobes on this list give it up? You guys are getting sickening. Get a life and stfu. From dwoerpel at wi.net Wed Jun 27 23:22:14 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 00:22:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires Message-ID: <46834586.7050009@wi.net> That's what I have on the car now; I have so much fun on my country roads. Haven't tried off- ;-) road yet! Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS Burlington WI From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Thu Jun 28 00:44:37 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 23:44:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust wrap In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070627122133.01bafeb8@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <149251.36352.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> But Peter - Derf is really Fred spelled backwards. Doesn't that sound like some thing the captain would do. Vigil Peter C wrote: At 12:15 PM 6/27/2007, Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: >Wow, I'm agreeing with Derf again even though I think Derf and Cap'n Bob are >the same person! (no offence Cap'n). ---- Can't be. Otherwise Bob would be spelled boB _______________________________________________ uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 28 05:54:09 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 06:54:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may References: <5f00d9910706271343p62a3259dnaa8bf4feddd02eab@mail.gmail.com><20070627231821.12942.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com><5f00d9910706271922n68705526k5e17bd4d858cef09@mail.gmail.com> <04de01c7b92d$64a48940$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <069901c7b97b$0b643120$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "Ron Soave" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may Not with those weenie homo tires they're talking about putting on those 4" rims. Do those 948s generate enough torque to break an axle? _______________________________________________ "weenie homo tires"? Geez, at what point do the homophobes on this list give it up? You guys are getting sickening. Get a life and stfu. _______________________________________________ OK, so a couple of guys hit me up off list and asked why I went off like I did. This is the story. 20 some years ago I dated a lady who had a brother who was gay. One night a couple of rednecks decided it would be fun to beat up the fag. This guy never harmed a soul in his life. They damn near killed him. As a result of the beating and stomping he took, he will be in a wheelchair the rest of his life because of spinal cord damage. He lost his sight in one eye and after a couple of surgeries his face is still a mess. Ignorant, intolerant bullies hold a special place in my heart. Bullies are bullies whether they do it with their words or their fists and boots. So, get a life and stfu. From type79 at ix.netcom.com Thu Jun 28 06:44:02 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 08:44:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may Message-ID: <21083314.1183034642347.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Fred, My delete key's not broken. I use it often and seldom offer criticism. I even go beyond the use of a delete key; I use a spamfilter. Hence the reason why I seldom see your emails. I agree with Larry. Your first email was offensive. Your second was ignorant. And your third I won't see for the reason stated above. :-) Also, I'm not afraid to sign my emails with my real name. jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ "Let truth be the prejudice." W. Eugene Smith -----Original Message----- >From: Larry Daniels >Sent: Jun 27, 2007 11:02 PM >To: derf >Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may > >Derf, perhaps we can meet sometime and "talk" about it. > >Then you can explain to me what you mean by rainbows. > >I will welcome the "discussion". Come and get it. > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: derf >To: Larry Daniels >Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net >Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 9:55 PM >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may > > >I'm just returning banter. Your delete key broken? Just because we make homo >jokes doesn't mean we hate gays. We didn't mean to hurt your feelings. You >and your rainbows are just as welcome here as anyone. >I'm not a homophobe. My car doesn't define my masculinity. >I find your comments more offensive than anything we've posted lately. >We have lives and you are free to st_u yourself. > > > Geez, at what point do the homophobes on this list give it up? You guys >are > getting sickening. > > Get a life and stfu. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 28 07:06:48 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 07:06:48 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may In-Reply-To: <069901c7b97b$0b643120$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <5f00d9910706271343p62a3259dnaa8bf4feddd02eab@mail.gmail.com> <20070627231821.12942.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5f00d9910706271922n68705526k5e17bd4d858cef09@mail.gmail.com> <04de01c7b92d$64a48940$6401a8c0@Larry> <069901c7b97b$0b643120$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706280606t22f2bf70nf915f497683c3ee7@mail.gmail.com> OK, why did you wait until I made a "homo" comment to post your hostility? I don't have any gay friends. My wife does. One of her high school buddies is gay (female). Several of her co-workers are gay, some obviously and some could pass for straight, (male and female). Her supervisor is gay (female). I don't want to start a religious thread with this but the Bible says that God detests homosexuality. But, we are not God and the Bible also says we are all sinners and should love one another. Like God we should hate the sin and love the sinner. I think homosexuality is immoral just like adultery. I don't hate anyone because they are gay. I'm no bully. Other than sparring in college I haven't thrown a punch since 5th grade. I am large in stature. Lister Jim Pickard has met me and can attest to this. I am big. I don't need to act big. I don't make myself feel better by making others feel bad. Your comments below sound like just about every bully I've ever known. Rainbows are a symbol for gay people who are sometimes referred to as "rainbow people". A rainbow also appears on the gay pride flag. Thickos reserve the right to call each other "homos". If that offends you then hit your delete key. Your threats are more offensive to me than the homo quips. BTW, I'm trembling here. "Derf, perhaps we can meet sometime and "talk" about it. Then you can explain to me what you mean by rainbows. I will welcome the "discussion". Come and get it." From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 28 07:21:14 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 07:21:14 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may In-Reply-To: <21083314.1183034642347.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <21083314.1183034642347.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706280621h16fe2db9xcca9461b44c2317e@mail.gmail.com> OK, I get it now. Certain listers can call others homos but not everyone is afforded this privilege. Thanks for pointing that out. Congrats on being brave enough to use your real name. You could find out my real name in about a minute. There are a score or more listers that know it. I have either sent stuff or received stuff from at least that many. My address or return address would be on every piece. From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu Jun 28 07:43:50 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 09:43:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Smoking start In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I believe this is caused by the turning momentum of the motor, and driveshaft. Back in a younger day, when I would do the light-to-light thing in my '65 Dodge (which had Chrysler's version of what we all generically called "positraction" --TM General Motors, of course-- I had to be real careful about that "stepping to the right." On a hard launch, that Dodge could step a half of a lane to the right-- where there was typically another lead-footed bozo trying to do the same thing. If he had no posi, you ran a risk of wacking him sideways. -----Original Message----- From: Daniel1312 at aol.com [mailto:Daniel1312 at aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 4:14 PM To: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Smoking start Yup and do you get just a slight twitch to the right? In a message dated 27/06/07 20:36:52 GMT Daylight Time, dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes: > Well, I do know that without the PG, a vigorous launch tends to spin > only the right rear tire; With the PG, I can smoke both rear tires > simultaneously. From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Thu Jun 28 08:02:21 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 07:02:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Your message to Spridgets awaits moderator approval In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <41081.83865.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> People have asked me why i do not post to the autox.team sprite group. Here is the prime example. I will probably just eliminate the group from my groups. Besides there is so many other groups and this one seems to be used less and less. Vigil spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net wrote: Your mail to 'Spridgets' with the subject Re: [midgetsprite] Re: [Spridgets] BusterCluster article update Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Message body is too big: 5376 bytes with a limit of 4 KB Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: http://autox.team.net/mailman/confirm/spridgets/958419f940f7f3ef0229d9aec13703b225defe71 --------------------------------- Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Thu Jun 28 08:51:14 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 09:51:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Your message to Spridgets awaits moderator approval In-Reply-To: <41081.83865.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <41081.83865.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0706280751j15812214nb6572a36222365a3@mail.gmail.com> the guy has to pay for bandwidth out of his pocket. Lots of spam gets sent in that threshold, rather than our back and forth banter. Edit your replies! On 6/28/07, uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com wrote: > People have asked me why i do not post to the autox.team sprite group. Here is the prime example. I will probably just eliminate the group from my groups. Besides there is so many other groups and this one seems to be used less and less. > > Vigil > > > > spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net wrote: > Your mail to 'Spridgets' with the subject > > Re: [midgetsprite] Re: [Spridgets] BusterCluster article update > > Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. > > The reason it is being held: > > Message body is too big: 5376 bytes with a limit of 4 KB > > Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive > notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel > this posting, please visit the following URL: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/confirm/spridgets/958419f940f7f3ef0229d9aec13703b225defe71 > > > > > --------------------------------- > Get your own web address. > Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. > _______________________________________________ > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu Jun 28 09:19:55 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:19:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may In-Reply-To: <017901c7b903$bcdd03f0$6401a8c0@refisk> References: <017901c7b903$bcdd03f0$6401a8c0@refisk> Message-ID: Is that why you were running down to the false grid waving your arms and shouting excitedly? Not veddy distinguished for a crew chief of a counterfeit works racer! -----Original Message----- From: Rick Fisk [mailto:refisk at chartermi.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 5:40 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may John has the competition version of the Phantom Grip installed in his Midget race car. When he broke the left axle at Gingerman raceway last May he had to be towed back to the paddock. The car would not move under it's own power. We got the broken axle out and a replacement installed in about twenty minutes. John took off for the false grid for his next heat and realized at the last minute that we had forgotten to reinstall one "kind of important" piece when we put it back together. We had everything in there except the brake drum. LOL Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; Cc: Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may > Not necessarily so. One reason the European rally cars right down to > clubman/amateur status like the clutch plate diff is that if a > halfshaft/driveshaft/axle breaks they can still limp out of a special > stage to the service area. > For the very same reason they are loathe to use a Quaife/Torsen. > > Where is Alan East-Jones - he works for Ferguson! From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jun 28 09:27:04 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 10:27:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Your message to Spridgets awaits moderator approval In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0706280751j15812214nb6572a36222365a3@mail.gmail.com> References: <41081.83865.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <8a336b9d0706280751j15812214nb6572a36222365a3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0706280827x6c590703odb83d0c1754cd40@mail.gmail.com> Vigil, Flash is correct. As long as I edit my replies to remove extraneous stuff and keep it under 4K everything works fine. I've only had one message go into moderate in the past 3 years. Also, I have donated to the autox.team effort in order to defray the costs which are coming out of the owners pocket.... Cheers!! Jim On 6/28/07, Flash. wrote: > the guy has to pay for bandwidth out of his pocket. Lots of spam gets > sent in that threshold, rather than our back and forth banter. > > Edit your replies! From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Jun 28 09:55:47 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (W, Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 10:55:47 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706280621h16fe2db9xcca9461b44c2317e@mail.gmail.com> References: <21083314.1183034642347.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <5f00d9910706280621h16fe2db9xcca9461b44c2317e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <15093.192.195.66.46.1183046147.squirrel@www.thicko.com> OK Spridgeteers... let's get something straight here. Nobody's meant anyone any harm with "gay", "Homo", or "Miata" (synonymous) remarks. Nobody's crippling gay guys in a mass beat down. Larry, evertime you step into the Thicko shop, you see a sign on the dooor that says "official homo club entrance". What is a homo club? It's an excuse for guys to hang around together, and do "manly" things. The world is full of homo clubs... take "animal clubs", for instance. (Elks, Moose, etc.)Masons, Shriners, etc. are other examples. Hell, bowling leagues and softball teams are homo clubs. It is, by definition, an activity largely populated by like minded men. It could be a group of guys in a dorm room, wearing bath robes, scratching their (own) scrotums, watching Jerry Springer. In our case, it's working on, driving, racing, and talking about cars. For our own sanity, we find the need to take a break from our womenfolk and just hang out with the boys. We (Thickos) make fun of everyone and everything... and especially anything involving authority. We make fun of old guys, young guys, gay guys, straight guys, bald guys, hairy guys, fast guys, slow guys, smart guys, stupid guys, single guys, married guys.... you name it, we're going to be (playfully) disrespectful... and, it's done so "tongue in cheek".(Note, that is not a gay remark...). For the record, I have gay freinds, straight friends, single friends, married friends, and probably some of you that prefer goats and dwarfs. WST Flounder (biggest homo you know, in a purely hetero way) > OK, I get it now. Certain listers can call others homos but not everyone > is > afforded this privilege. Thanks for pointing that out. > > Congrats on being brave enough to use your real name. You could find out > my > real name in about a minute. There are a score or more listers that know > it. I have either sent stuff or received stuff from at least that many. > My > address or return address would be on every piece. > _______________________________________________ From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu Jun 28 10:06:59 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 12:06:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may In-Reply-To: <04f601c7b930$c3f858b0$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <5f00d9910706271343p62a3259dnaa8bf4feddd02eab@mail.gmail.com><20070627231821.12942.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com><5f00d9910706271922n68705526k5e17bd4d858cef09@mail.gmail.com><04de01c7b92d$64a48940$6401a8c0@Larry><5f00d9910706271955p7eaf49d7x14037df5817fe3c4@mail.gmail.com> <04f601c7b930$c3f858b0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: There's a little too much torque-sensing here for me. Is it the heat, the Texas rain, or what? May I again suggest we focus our invectives upon Lithuanians. There are not many of them and they tend to be thick-skinned. A Lithuanian recently won a European strength championship when he pulled a semi rig with his beard! Another one tried to increase the speed of his race car by heading out on the track without a brake drum. -----Original Message----- From: Larry Daniels [mailto:ladaniels at sbcglobal.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 11:02 PM To: derf Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may Derf, perhaps we can meet sometime and "talk" about it. Then you can explain to me what you mean by rainbows. I will welcome the "discussion". Come and get it. ----- Original Message ----- From: derf To: Larry Daniels Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may I'm just returning banter. Your delete key broken? Just because we make homo jokes doesn't mean we hate gays. We didn't mean to hurt your feelings. You and your rainbows are just as welcome here as anyone. I'm not a homophobe. My car doesn't define my masculinity. I find your comments more offensive than anything we've posted lately. We have lives and you are free to st_u yourself. Geez, at what point do the homophobes on this list give it up? You guys are getting sickening. Get a life and stfu. From dxcamp at bsink.com Thu Jun 28 11:13:55 2007 From: dxcamp at bsink.com (David Camp) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 12:13:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may References: <21083314.1183034642347.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net><5f00d9910706280621h16fe2db9xcca9461b44c2317e@mail.gmail.com> <15093.192.195.66.46.1183046147.squirrel@www.thicko.com> Message-ID: <00ae01c7b9a7$b5955c10$fdaa010a@bsink.com> Or dwarf goats (just the purdy ones tho) ----- Original Message ----- From: "W, Severin Thompson" To: "derf" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may > OK Spridgeteers... let's get something straight here. Nobody's meant > anyone any harm with "gay", "Homo", or "Miata" (synonymous) remarks. > Nobody's crippling gay guys in a mass beat down. Larry, evertime you step > into the Thicko shop, you see a sign on the dooor that says "official homo > club entrance". > > What is a homo club? It's an excuse for guys to hang around together, and > do "manly" things. The world is full of homo clubs... take "animal clubs", > for instance. (Elks, Moose, etc.)Masons, Shriners, etc. are other > examples. Hell, bowling leagues and softball teams are homo clubs. It is, > by definition, an activity largely populated by like minded men. It could > be a group of guys in a dorm room, wearing bath robes, scratching their > (own) scrotums, watching Jerry Springer. In our case, it's working on, > driving, racing, and talking about cars. For our own sanity, we find the > need to take a break from our womenfolk and just hang out with the boys. > > We (Thickos) make fun of everyone and everything... and especially > anything involving authority. We make fun of old guys, young guys, gay > guys, straight guys, bald guys, hairy guys, fast guys, slow guys, smart > guys, stupid guys, single guys, married guys.... you name it, we're going > to be (playfully) disrespectful... and, it's done so "tongue in > cheek".(Note, that is not a gay remark...). > > For the record, I have gay freinds, straight friends, single friends, > married friends, and probably some of you that prefer goats and dwarfs. > > WST > Flounder > (biggest homo you know, in a purely hetero way) > --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Thu Jun 28 10:16:36 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:16:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Your message to Spridgets awaits moderator approval In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0706280827x6c590703odb83d0c1754cd40@mail.gmail.com> References: <41081.83865.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <8a336b9d0706280751j15812214nb6572a36222365a3@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0706280827x6c590703odb83d0c1754cd40@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0706280916i5f0eaf0bm7bd58a0bf094eef8@mail.gmail.com> and I made him a hell of a deal on some Uninterruptable Power Supplies for his network servers, for which UPS is still hunting me for in collections. Apparently they were a lot heavier than I thought :( On 6/28/07, Jim Johnson wrote: > Vigil, > Flash is correct. As long as I edit my replies to remove extraneous > stuff and keep it under 4K everything works fine. I've only had one > message go into moderate in the past 3 years. > Also, I have donated to the autox.team effort in order to defray the > costs which are coming out of the owners pocket.... > Cheers!! > Jim > > On 6/28/07, Flash. wrote: > > the guy has to pay for bandwidth out of his pocket. Lots of spam gets > > sent in that threshold, rather than our back and forth banter. > > > > Edit your replies! > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 28 10:20:34 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 10:20:34 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may In-Reply-To: <15093.192.195.66.46.1183046147.squirrel@www.thicko.com> References: <21083314.1183034642347.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <5f00d9910706280621h16fe2db9xcca9461b44c2317e@mail.gmail.com> <15093.192.195.66.46.1183046147.squirrel@www.thicko.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706280920o41165a1t3e8938eac6adc4be@mail.gmail.com> LOL. Thank you. That was appropriately eloquent. In our crowd in college there were a few gay guys and gals. No one got their feelings hurt by the term "big ol' fag" which was used alot or "fag hag" which was used to describe a straight female who surrounded herself with gay males. "Gaydar" was also a common term. The best dance music in town at that time was at the gay club Xanthus which had a sign on the front door that read "Enter At Rear". I have a gay client who has eaten my steaks at my breakfast room table. Whenever we see each other, we take turns buying lunch. He lives in Atlanta and his partner is confined to a wheel chair. He isn't flaming but he takes every opportunity to let everyone know he is gay. One of his ex-boyfriends is another client of mine. I am sorry your friend was a victim of gay bashing. I think that kind of stuff stems mostly from repressed homosexual feelings in the bashers. See "American Beauty" for an example of this, also an excellent movie with very good direction and acting. Kevin Spacey is great in it. Enough gay talk. I don't think anyone on the list wants to bash gays. Although at least one person wants to bash me. I appreciate you guys with a sense of humor and camaraderie and you guys who tolerate all the BS stuck in between Spridget tibbits. The rest of you.....well, you can't please everyone. Cheers, Derf From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net Thu Jun 28 14:10:17 2007 From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (Richard Feibusch) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 12:10:17 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] UPDATE - Palo Alto British Meet Last Show At El Camino Park Message-ID: A message to all West Coast/California people on this list Palo Alto British Car Meet's Final Year At El Camino Park Dear Readers, It is with great regret that I must report that this year will be the last for the 30-year-old Palo Alto British Car Meet at El Camino Park. DON'T FRET - WE'LL STILL BE PUTTING ON THE SAME EVENT AT A NEW LOCATION! The park is going to be reconstructed into an emergency reservoir for Palo Alto and rebuilt using astroturf on the fields. No more car shows as oil and gas will damage the new surface. We are planning the same show that you all have come to expect - arcane cars, lawn, jazz, proper British breakfasts and lunches and prizes in a bunch of classes. Come join us for the final British car extravaganza at El Camino Park on September 8th & 9th, 2007 We are already looking for a new venue for 2008 and we will keep you posted in The British Car Network. We would like to thank all of you, especially the marque clubs, for 30 years of enthusiastic support and all of the fun and good cheer that you have brought to these meets and our hobby in general. Long live the British car and the people who cherish them ......... Best, Rick Feibusch, British Car Network Palo Alto British Car Meet Coordinator If you would like to join the British Car Network and know about all of the California British car events and stories of British Automotive intrest, email: , and ask to be put on the list - This list is privately held, non-commercial and not available to spammers. ***************************************************** From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net Thu Jun 28 14:10:36 2007 From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (Richard Feibusch) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 12:10:36 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Palo Alto British Car Meet 2007 Message-ID: ****************************************************** THE 2007 PALO ALTO BRITISH CAR MEET El Camino Park - Just Across From Stanford Center September Eighth & Ninth Join us for the most historic British automotive lawn event in California. 400 quirky, classic, and thoroughly lovable British cars are once again expected to grace the field at El Camino Park for the 29th Annual Palo Alto British Car Meet. SUNDAY CAR SHOW - SEPTEMBER 9th - 9:00AM - 5:00PM Join your British car friends for a smashing day at the park. Don't have a show car? Don't worry! Daily drivers, vintage racers, street rods & works-in-progress are as welcome as Concours quality restorations. British food, jazz, and more fun than you'll be able to tolerate! This year there will be individual marque awards in a minimum of 15 classes. We will start placing cars on the field at about 9:AM and the fun goes on all day! There is no preregistration and all entrants will receive a commemorative gift. The registration fee is $25 per car at the gate. Joining us again this year will be the cool little cars from around the world in the Arcane Auto Society. Spectators attend for free. SATURDAY BACKROAD TOUR TO THE SEA - SEPTEMBER 8th The British Car Meet TOUR TO THE SEA starts at El Camino Park in Palo Alto - the same place as the Sunday Car Show. We will be sending cars off between 8:30 and 10:30AM. A map will be provided. This is a no-cost option for people who like to drive their cars as well as show 'em. The tour ends at Cameron's Pub in Half Moon Bay where we will be kicking tyres and telling tall tales well into the afternoon. SATURDAY SWAP MEET - SEPTEMBER 8th - 8:00AM - 11:00AM We are trying to bring back this event this year - more details as they become available ...... tentatively 8:00AM - 11:00AM in Santa Clara DIRECTIONS TO EL CAMINO PARK: El Camino Park is located on the El Camino, just north of University Ave, opposite Stanford Center. From 101 take University Ave. west, go under the Alma Street overpass, and turn right onto the El Camino Real. From 280, take the Sandhill Road Exit east and turn right on the El Camino, stay to the right to the University Ave exit, turn left at the overpass, then left again back onto the El Camino heading north. PLEASE, DO NOT PARK TRAILERS IN THE STANFORD CENTER PARKING LOT! Trailer parking will be available on-site on the south field baseball diamond. Call for information: 310-392-6605 e-mail: ************************************************* From wmgilroy at gmail.com Thu Jun 28 13:32:21 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 12:32:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust wrap In-Reply-To: <149251.36352.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070627122133.01bafeb8@nosimport.com> <149251.36352.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <441250190706281232q31aecfd9ta0bd0e8c5fa70c12@mail.gmail.com> Maybe, I perfer to think his parents named him "Derf". That is way funny considering he is form LA. Speaking of Derf I have some stuff I still need to send him. =g On 6/27/07, uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com wrote: > > But Peter - > > Derf is really Fred spelled backwards. > > Doesn't that sound like some thing the captain would do. > > Vigil From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jun 28 13:35:52 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:35:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust wrap References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070627122133.01bafeb8@nosimport.com><149251.36352.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <441250190706281232q31aecfd9ta0bd0e8c5fa70c12@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <01e001c7b9bb$8a769a80$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >> Derf is really Fred spelled backwards. >> Doesn't that sound like some thing the captain would do. That explains it all!!! We have been duped into thinking he is Cap'n Bob when he is really Cap'n Bob. He tricked us all into spelling it backwards all this time............. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jun 28 13:39:50 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:39:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Lawyer & his Porsche In-Reply-To: <46837DD7.4010507@stormeyes.org> References: <46837DD7.4010507@stormeyes.org> Message-ID: <43840a7e0706281239gf004c22ufdfb20eb7364d70e@mail.gmail.com> Apologies to my lawyer friends on the list..... A very successful lawyer parked his brand new Porsche in front of the office, ready to show it off to his colleagues. As he got out, a truck came along too close to the curb and completely tore off the driver's door. Fortunately, a cop in a police car was close enough to see the accident and pulled up behind the Porsche, his lights flashing. But, before the cop had a chance to ask any questions, the lawyer started screaming hysterically about how his Porsche, which he had just picked up the day before, was now completely ruined and would never be the same, no matter how hard the body shop tries to make it new again. After the lawyer finally wound down from his rant, the cop shook his head in disgust and disbelief. "I can't believe how materialistic you lawyers are," he said. "You are so focused on your possessions that you neglect the most important things in life." "How can you say such a thing?" asked the lawyer. The cop replied, "Don't you even realize that your left arm is missing? It got ripped off when the truck hit you!!!" "OH, MY GOSH!" screamed the lawyer. (scroll down) "MY ROLEX!" From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jun 28 13:42:56 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:42:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A deviaTION, a screw or 2 In-Reply-To: References: <017901c7b903$bcdd03f0$6401a8c0@refisk> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070628143645.036b96c0@nosimport.com> Uh, if I may interrupt ... I could use 2 screws BMC number 6K9833 Besides being used on my Mini door latches, they are also used on Bugeye/Frogeye bonnet latches. As you can tell by the part number, they are not a standard type item. The screws available for the BE application are for the replacement latch gizmo. And no, I DFK if they are Posi-pozi drive or not. So, anyone have 2 screws of the 4 used on a BE bonnet to attach the latch bit that takes the handle? Accessible from behind the grille. Thanks Peter C. Lord, I pray my brakes are twice as good as the guy in front of me.... ... and half as good as the guy behind. From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Thu Jun 28 14:43:52 2007 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:43:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] derf and the Cap'n Message-ID: Wait a minute, Isn't Fred the Cap'ns Cats name?Anon> But Peter - > > Derf is really Fred spelled backwards. > > Doesn't that sound like some thing the captain would do. > > Vigil> > Peter C wrote:> At 12:15 PM 6/27/2007, Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote:> > >Wow, I'm agreeing with Derf again even though I think Derf and Cap'n Bob are> >the same person! (no offence Cap'n).> ----> Can't be.> > Otherwise Bob would be spelled boB > _______________________________________________> _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail to go? Get your Hotmail, news, sports and much more! Check out the New MSN Mobile! http://mobile.msn.com From dwoerpel at wi.net Thu Jun 28 14:47:32 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 15:47:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A deviaTION, a screw or 2 In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070628143645.036b96c0@nosimport.com> References: <017901c7b903$bcdd03f0$6401a8c0@refisk> <7.0.1.0.2.20070628143645.036b96c0@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <46841E64.9090906@wi.net> Peter, I used some AN 10-32's I got off the B-25 we worked on. Been on the Bugeye for 27 years. Your referring to the 'garage door' latch the the T-handle fits into, right? My AKD3567 parts book, page BB 3 Plate 2 shows it as illustration 33, part number PMZ 0308. Enlighten me if I'm incorrect. Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS Burlington WI Peter C wrote: > Uh, if I may interrupt ... > > I could use 2 screws BMC number 6K9833 Besides being used on my Mini > door latches, they are also used on Bugeye/Frogeye bonnet > latches. As you can tell by the part number, they are not a standard > type item. The screws available for the BE application are for the > replacement latch gizmo. And no, I DFK if they are Posi-pozi drive or not. > > So, anyone have 2 screws of the 4 used on a BE bonnet to attach the > latch bit that takes the handle? Accessible from behind the grille. > > Thanks > > Peter C. > > Lord, I pray my brakes are twice as good as the guy in front of me.... > ... and half as good as the guy behind. From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jun 28 15:08:23 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:08:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A deviaTION, a screw or 2 In-Reply-To: <46841E64.9090906@wi.net> References: <017901c7b903$bcdd03f0$6401a8c0@refisk> <7.0.1.0.2.20070628143645.036b96c0@nosimport.com> <46841E64.9090906@wi.net> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070628160449.02083788@nosimport.com> Sorry Dave. It is the screw for the handle to the lock, that I am after. My mistake. These eyes are getting old. SO, what I really need, y'all, is 2 screws for the handle to the lock. Of course there is only 1 o na BE, but 2 on a Mini. At least I need info to their whereabouts, or an accurate description of threads, etc. Peter C === At 03:47 PM 6/28/2007, David Woerpel wrote: >Peter, > >I used some AN 10-32's I got off the B-25 we worked on. Been on the >Bugeye for 27 years. Your referring to the 'garage door' latch >the the T-handle fits into, right? My AKD3567 parts book, page BB >3 Plate 2 shows it as illustration 33, part number PMZ >0308. Enlighten me if I'm incorrect. >Dave >59 :{) >59 MGA 1500 >05 MCS >Burlington WI > >Peter C wrote: >>Uh, if I may interrupt ... >> >>I could use 2 screws BMC number 6K9833 Besides being used on my >>Mini door latches, they are also used on Bugeye/Frogeye bonnet >>latches. As you can tell by the part number, they are not a >>standard type item. The screws available for the BE application are >>for the replacement latch gizmo. And no, I DFK if they are >>Posi-pozi drive or not. >> >>So, anyone have 2 screws of the 4 used on a BE bonnet to attach the >>latch bit that takes the handle? Accessible from behind the grille. >> >>Thanks >> >>Peter C. >> >>Lord, I pray my brakes are twice as good as the guy in front of me.... >>... and half as good as the guy behind. From RobertDuquette at Sympatico.ca Thu Jun 28 15:12:02 2007 From: RobertDuquette at Sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:12:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] derf and the Cap'n In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002901c7b9c8$f91ddc70$6601a8c0@RobertDuquette> I think it is spelled somewhat weirdly, like Phred or some such. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of brian S Sent: June 28, 2007 4:44 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] derf and the Cap'n Wait a minute, Isn't Fred the Cap'ns Cats name?Anon> But Peter - > > Derf is really Fred spelled backwards. > > Doesn't that sound like some thing the captain would do. > > Vigil> > Peter C wrote:> At 12:15 PM 6/27/2007, Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote:> > >Wow, I'm agreeing with Derf again even though I think Derf and Cap'n Bob are> >the same person! (no offence Cap'n).> ----> Can't be.> > Otherwise Bob would be spelled boB > _______________________________________________> _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail to go? Get your Hotmail, news, sports and much more! Check out the New MSN Mobile! http://mobile.msn.com _______________________________________________ robertduquette at sympatico.ca Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From RobertDuquette at Sympatico.ca Thu Jun 28 15:14:58 2007 From: RobertDuquette at Sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:14:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust wrap In-Reply-To: <01e001c7b9bb$8a769a80$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070627122133.01bafeb8@nosimport.com><149251.36352.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com><441250190706281232q31aecfd9ta0bd0e8c5fa70c12@mail.gmail.com> <01e001c7b9bb$8a769a80$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <002b01c7b9c9$6202bc60$6601a8c0@RobertDuquette> Wouldn't it be Bob N'Pac? -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: June 28, 2007 3:36 PM To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] exhaust wrap >> Derf is really Fred spelled backwards. >> Doesn't that sound like some thing the captain would do. That explains it all!!! We have been duped into thinking he is Cap'n Bob when he is really Cap'n Bob. He tricked us all into spelling it backwards all this time............. From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Thu Jun 28 15:26:50 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:26:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] roll bars Message-ID: <000601c7b9cb$0a829c60$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> I posted this to the British Car Forum for a giggle, but I'm getting no responses. So lets try the ultimate font of Spridget knowledge: I'm in the process of installing a roll bar in Bugsy. I'm bolting it in rather that welding. This is the type of bar that is supported by large steel "feet" at the end of short angled legs that attach to the main hoop, bolted atop the wheel wells. The hoop legs end on the shelf just above the floor. Large backing plates will be used beneath each attachment point. Has anyone had experience with a roll bar that actually got rolled? Did it fail? How did it fail? (more paranoia ahead of the Missouri drive next year) Thanks, Glen Byrns From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 28 15:54:13 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 15:54:13 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] roll bars In-Reply-To: <000601c7b9cb$0a829c60$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <000601c7b9cb$0a829c60$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706281454k81a0f4ekbc1e68cc25577515@mail.gmail.com> A good 4 point bar made from 1.75 X .120 tubing will hold up. Here's a pic of a rolled Miata: http://www.miata.hu/contentimg/rollbar.jpg Here are some testimonials from the maker of good roll bars: http://www.bethania-garage.com/testimonials_story.htm Unfortunately, they don't make bars for Spridgets. I know it is not a Spridget but it is a similarly sized car and the bars can be similar. Some twin hoop "style bars" are cheap but are also known as "rat traps" for what they do in certain roll over situations. Bolt in is good enough if you use good grade 5 or 8 hardware and good backing plates. Backing plates should be at least 3/16 thick. I think the ones that are sold by the usual suspects (VB and Mo$$) are OK and much better than nothing if you do roll over. If anyone did roll a Spridget (or Miata) without a roll bar they probably would not be around to comment on the experience. Neither car is easy to roll and when they do roll they are usually going fast and are usually hit by something else. Cheers, Derf From jlaird237 at cox.net Thu Jun 28 15:56:44 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:56:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A deviaTION, a screw or 2 References: <017901c7b903$bcdd03f0$6401a8c0@refisk><7.0.1.0.2.20070628143645.036b96c0@nosimport.com><46841E64.9090906@wi.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20070628160449.02083788@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <000a01c7b9cf$37b535e0$6401a8c0@personal> Do as I did and use a sheet metal screw. That's what was in there. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter C" To: "David Woerpel" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A deviaTION, a screw or 2 > Sorry Dave. It is the screw for the handle to the lock, that I am > after. My mistake. These eyes are getting old. > > SO, what I really need, y'all, is 2 screws for the handle to the > lock. Of course there is only 1 o na BE, but 2 on a Mini. > > At least I need info to their whereabouts, or an accurate description > of threads, etc. > > Peter C > === > At 03:47 PM 6/28/2007, David Woerpel wrote: > >>Peter, >> >>I used some AN 10-32's I got off the B-25 we worked on. Been on the >>Bugeye for 27 years. Your referring to the 'garage door' latch >>the the T-handle fits into, right? My AKD3567 parts book, page BB >>3 Plate 2 shows it as illustration 33, part number PMZ >>0308. Enlighten me if I'm incorrect. >>Dave >>59 :{) >>59 MGA 1500 >>05 MCS >>Burlington WI >> >>Peter C wrote: >>>Uh, if I may interrupt ... >>> >>>I could use 2 screws BMC number 6K9833 Besides being used on my >>>Mini door latches, they are also used on Bugeye/Frogeye bonnet >>>latches. As you can tell by the part number, they are not a >>>standard type item. The screws available for the BE application are >>>for the replacement latch gizmo. And no, I DFK if they are >>>Posi-pozi drive or not. >>> >>>So, anyone have 2 screws of the 4 used on a BE bonnet to attach the >>>latch bit that takes the handle? Accessible from behind the grille. >>> >>>Thanks >>> >>>Peter C. >>> >>>Lord, I pray my brakes are twice as good as the guy in front of me.... >>>... and half as good as the guy behind. > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.10/873 - Release Date: 6/26/2007 > 11:54 PM From jlaird237 at cox.net Thu Jun 28 15:57:32 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:57:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] roll bars References: <000601c7b9cb$0a829c60$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <001301c7b9cf$5491d240$6401a8c0@personal> You just did not wait long enough, Jeff rolled a bugeye on the track. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen Byrns" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 4:26 PM Subject: [Spridgets] roll bars >I posted this to the British Car Forum for a giggle, but I'm getting no > responses. So lets try the ultimate font of Spridget knowledge: > > I'm in the process of installing a roll bar in Bugsy. I'm bolting it in > rather > that welding. This is the type of bar that is supported by large steel > "feet" > at the end of short angled legs that attach to the main hoop, bolted atop > the > wheel wells. The hoop legs end on the shelf just above the floor. Large > backing plates will be used beneath each attachment point. > > Has anyone had experience with a roll bar that actually got rolled? Did it > fail? How did it fail? > (more paranoia ahead of the Missouri drive next year) > > Thanks, > Glen Byrns > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.10/873 - Release Date: 6/26/2007 > 11:54 PM From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jun 28 15:59:32 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:59:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A deviaTION, a screw or 2 In-Reply-To: <000a01c7b9cf$37b535e0$6401a8c0@personal> References: <017901c7b903$bcdd03f0$6401a8c0@refisk> <7.0.1.0.2.20070628143645.036b96c0@nosimport.com> <46841E64.9090906@wi.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20070628160449.02083788@nosimport.com> <000a01c7b9cf$37b535e0$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070628165829.021480e0@nosimport.com> That's what's in the Mini now, and it falls out with some regularity. Peter === At 04:56 PM 6/28/2007, you wrote: >Do as I did and use a sheet metal screw. That's what was in there. > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter C" >To: "David Woerpel" ; "Spridgets" >Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 4:08 PM >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A deviaTION, a screw or 2 > > >>Sorry Dave. It is the screw for the handle to the lock, that I am >>after. My mistake. These eyes are getting old. >> >>SO, what I really need, y'all, is 2 screws for the handle to the >>lock. Of course there is only 1 o na BE, but 2 on a Mini. >> >>At least I need info to their whereabouts, or an accurate description >>of threads, etc. >> >>Peter C >>=== >>At 03:47 PM 6/28/2007, David Woerpel wrote: >> >>>Peter, >>> >>>I used some AN 10-32's I got off the B-25 we worked on. Been on the >>>Bugeye for 27 years. Your referring to the 'garage door' latch >>>the the T-handle fits into, right? My AKD3567 parts book, page BB >>>3 Plate 2 shows it as illustration 33, part number PMZ >>>0308. Enlighten me if I'm incorrect. >>>Dave >>>59 :{) >>>59 MGA 1500 >>>05 MCS >>>Burlington WI >>> >>>Peter C wrote: >>>>Uh, if I may interrupt ... >>>> >>>>I could use 2 screws BMC number 6K9833 Besides being used on my >>>>Mini door latches, they are also used on Bugeye/Frogeye bonnet >>>>latches. As you can tell by the part number, they are not a >>>>standard type item. The screws available for the BE application are >>>>for the replacement latch gizmo. And no, I DFK if they are >>>>Posi-pozi drive or not. >>>> >>>>So, anyone have 2 screws of the 4 used on a BE bonnet to attach the >>>>latch bit that takes the handle? Accessible from behind the grille. >>>> >>>>Thanks >>>> >>>>Peter C. >>>> >>>>Lord, I pray my brakes are twice as good as the guy in front of me.... >>>>... and half as good as the guy behind. From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jun 28 16:16:36 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:16:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] A deviaTION, a screw or 2 In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070628143645.036b96c0@nosimport.com> References: <017901c7b903$bcdd03f0$6401a8c0@refisk> <7.0.1.0.2.20070628143645.036b96c0@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <46843344.9000804@comcast.net> Peter C wrote: > Uh, if I may interrupt ... > > I could use 2 screws BMC number 6K9833 Peter, those are your basic 10/32 pan head screws. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jun 28 16:31:35 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:31:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A deviaTION, a screw or 2 In-Reply-To: <46843344.9000804@comcast.net> References: <017901c7b903$bcdd03f0$6401a8c0@refisk> <7.0.1.0.2.20070628143645.036b96c0@nosimport.com> <46843344.9000804@comcast.net> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070628173113.036aac60@nosimport.com> Hang on, I'm going to try that. be right back == At 05:16 PM 6/28/2007, Frank Clarici wrote: >Peter C wrote: >>Uh, if I may interrupt ... >>I could use 2 screws BMC number 6K9833 >Peter, those are your basic 10/32 pan head screws. > >-- >Frank Clarici >Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jun 28 16:37:46 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:37:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] roll bars In-Reply-To: <000601c7b9cb$0a829c60$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <000601c7b9cb$0a829c60$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <4684383A.7090806@comcast.net> Glen Byrns wrote: > Has anyone had experience with a roll bar that actually got rolled? Did it > fail? How did it fail? I never rolled one (yet ;) ) but where the bar bolts at the ledge where the frame rails end is a very tough part of the car. Do plate it from underneith with at least 3/16" steel. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jun 28 16:44:25 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:44:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A deviaTION, a screw or 2 In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070628173113.036aac60@nosimport.com> References: <017901c7b903$bcdd03f0$6401a8c0@refisk> <7.0.1.0.2.20070628143645.036b96c0@nosimport.com> <46843344.9000804@comcast.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20070628173113.036aac60@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070628173956.020cd618@nosimport.com> Survey says....? hooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnkkkkkkkkkkk (how do you spell the Family Feud buzzersound?) Nope. There's sumpthin' funny here. The replacements DO take a 10-32. However the originals takes this stupid screw. It is smaller than 10-32. It may be coarse because the sheetmetal screw fits pretty darn well. I do not have an original bonnet handle laying around. PPP == At 05:31 PM 6/28/2007, Peter C wrote: >Hang on, I'm going to try that. >be right back >== >At 05:16 PM 6/28/2007, Frank Clarici wrote: > > >Peter C wrote: > >>Uh, if I may interrupt ... > >>I could use 2 screws BMC number 6K9833 > >Peter, those are your basic 10/32 pan head screws. > > > >-- > >Frank Clarici > >Toms River, NJ From mconn2 at bright.net Thu Jun 28 16:58:46 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:58:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may References: <21083314.1183034642347.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <002d01c7b9d7$e326da70$b2aeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> Jay, I really don't to get into this. I've got into trouble twice now, and would prefer not to have it happen again. Having said this, I have just one question. How do we know "jay fishbein" is your real name? Just a little question: don't want to get told off because of it. I'm interested, that's all. I have troubles of my own, you know. The main one being that I'm trying to summon up the courage to re-install the original steering wheel back on my AN5. I'm not very confident about it. (Left is loose, right is tight. Right? Now, if I can just remember what that means, maybe, I'll be able to do the job.) Oh, yes, one more thing, please, don't get upset any more about this all. That goes for any one else (Fred etc) doing the provoking or just joining in to keep it going. Michael I'm the one who's ultra sensitive to upsetting people! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may > Fred, > > My delete key's not broken. I use it often and seldom offer criticism. I > even go beyond the use of a delete key; I use a spamfilter. Hence the > reason why I seldom see your emails. > > I agree with Larry. Your first email was offensive. Your second was > ignorant. And your third I won't see for the reason stated above. :-) > > Also, I'm not afraid to sign my emails with my real name. > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ > "Let truth be the prejudice." W. Eugene Smith > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Larry Daniels >>Sent: Jun 27, 2007 11:02 PM >>To: derf >>Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net >>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may >> >>Derf, perhaps we can meet sometime and "talk" about it. >> >>Then you can explain to me what you mean by rainbows. >> >>I will welcome the "discussion". Come and get it. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: derf >>To: Larry Daniels >>Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net >>Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 9:55 PM >>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may >> >> >>I'm just returning banter. Your delete key broken? Just because we make >>homo >>jokes doesn't mean we hate gays. We didn't mean to hurt your feelings. >>You >>and your rainbows are just as welcome here as anyone. >>I'm not a homophobe. My car doesn't define my masculinity. >>I find your comments more offensive than anything we've posted lately. >>We have lives and you are free to st_u yourself. >> >> >> Geez, at what point do the homophobes on this list give it up? You guys >>are >> getting sickening. >> >> Get a life and stfu. > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mconn2 at bright.net Thu Jun 28 17:02:41 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:02:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may References: <5f00d9910706271343p62a3259dnaa8bf4feddd02eab@mail.gmail.com><20070627231821.12942.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com><5f00d9910706271922n68705526k5e17bd4d858cef09@mail.gmail.com><04de01c7b92d$64a48940$6401a8c0@Larry><069901c7b97b$0b643120$6401a8c0@Larry> <5f00d9910706280606t22f2bf70nf915f497683c3ee7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <003201c7b9d8$6ed02e00$b2aeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> Derf, Stop it! Shake hands, and be at peace. Pace. Talk about cars, please: AN5's, yes? Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "Larry Daniels" Cc: Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may > OK, why did you wait until I made a "homo" comment to post your hostility? > I don't have any gay friends. My wife does. One of her high school > buddies > is gay (female). Several of her co-workers are gay, some obviously and > some > could pass for straight, (male and female). Her supervisor is gay > (female). I don't want to start a religious thread with this but the > Bible > says that God detests homosexuality. But, we are not God and the Bible > also > says we are all sinners and should love one another. Like God we should > hate the sin and love the sinner. I think homosexuality is immoral just > like adultery. I don't hate anyone because they are gay. > I'm no bully. Other than sparring in college I haven't thrown a punch > since > 5th grade. I am large in stature. Lister Jim Pickard has met me and can > attest to this. I am big. I don't need to act big. I don't make myself > feel better by making others feel bad. > > Your comments below sound like just about every bully I've ever known. > > Rainbows are a symbol for gay people who are sometimes referred to as > "rainbow people". A rainbow also appears on the gay pride flag. > > Thickos reserve the right to call each other "homos". If that offends you > then hit your delete key. Your threats are more offensive to me than the > homo quips. > > BTW, I'm trembling here. > > > "Derf, perhaps we can meet sometime and "talk" about it. > > Then you can explain to me what you mean by rainbows. > > I will welcome the "discussion". Come and get it." > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Jun 28 17:21:46 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:21:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] roll bars In-Reply-To: <4684383A.7090806@comcast.net> References: <000601c7b9cb$0a829c60$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <4684383A.7090806@comcast.net> Message-ID: Not a Bugeye but at least two SAABs.. one 96 and a Sonett.. see the vid. http://www.at-speed.com/movies/Lester_crash.mov Lester .. and neither collapsed! On Jun 28, 2007, at 5:37 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > Glen Byrns wrote: > >> Has anyone had experience with a roll bar that actually got >> rolled? Did it >> fail? How did it fail? > > I never rolled one (yet ;) ) but where the bar bolts at the ledge > where > the frame rails end is a very tough part of the car. > Do plate it from underneith with at least 3/16" steel. > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Jun 28 17:31:41 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:31:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may In-Reply-To: <15093.192.195.66.46.1183046147.squirrel@www.thicko.com> References: <21083314.1183034642347.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <5f00d9910706280621h16fe2db9xcca9461b44c2317e@mail.gmail.com> <15093.192.195.66.46.1183046147.squirrel@www.thicko.com> Message-ID: <3EE1DE69-0009-415C-80D7-FE3FDED912AE@comcast.net> On Jun 28, 2007, at 10:55 AM, W, Severin Thompson wrote: > snip > > For the record, I have gay freinds, straight friends, single friends, > married friends, and probably some of you that prefer goats and > dwarfs. Always, ..but not at the same time.. ewww.. no, not ewe but ewwww. (I gotta have some standards!) > > WST > Flounder > (biggest homo you know, in a purely hetero way) From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Jun 28 17:32:59 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:32:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may In-Reply-To: <017901c7b903$bcdd03f0$6401a8c0@refisk> References: <017901c7b903$bcdd03f0$6401a8c0@refisk> Message-ID: <0D86E275-D503-4DAA-ADA2-BF370F2534FC@comcast.net> ROFLMAO!! Kinda like when you are the only service crew for two Pro- Rally cars in the middle of the freakin' night and you get the slow broken one up and running but you forget to gas up the fast and healthy one.. Lester On Jun 27, 2007, at 4:40 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: > John has the competition version of the Phantom Grip installed in > his Midget > race car. When he broke the left axle at Gingerman raceway last > May he had > to be towed back to the paddock. The car would not move under it's > own > power. > > We got the broken axle out and a replacement installed in about twenty > minutes. John took off for the false grid for his next heat and > realized at > the last minute that we had forgotten to reinstall one "kind of > important" > piece when we put it back together. We had everything in there > except the > brake drum. LOL > > Rick From mconn2 at bright.net Thu Jun 28 17:44:13 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:44:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] AN5 Message-ID: <001401c7b9de$3c4101c0$b2aeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> List, My wife has completely surprised me, and purchased from Moss the following: 1. Horn push; 2. Horn brush; and 3. Slip ring. Okay, you guys, I'm getting ready to have a go at re-installing the original steering wheel back on my AN5. I need a little help with 4 points, and wonder whether someone out there would be able to help me with the following, please: 1. When inserting the horn brush in the small hole in the steering wheel is the idea that the spring end of the brush will end up touching the circle of metal on the slip ring and the other end touching the metal strip on the bottom of the horn push? (I'm fairly confident it is, but would like to be sure.) 2. Moss says the plastic base on the slip ring should be removed for this application. Do I just open up the brass ring clips, take off the plastic and close the clips back up? (I called Moss about this, but the Tech Dept., was so busy they need two days notice of questions!) 3. Are there any other rings/washers which go on before or after the slip ring on the steering column? I can't see how the ring sits tight in the steering wheel. If I just put the ring, with or without the plastic base, how is it held tight to keep contact with the brush and for it to move as the steering wheel moves? (It would be easier, if having taken off the existing wheel, it was just a matter of reversing the process. Unfortunately, the exisiting wheel has a different "fixing" set up.) 4. Do I then just put the slip ring (and any other rings you tell me are necessary) and the steering wheel on the steering column, and tightened up the steering wheel nut? How important is it to torque the nut, or can I simply make it good and tight? (I don't have a torque wrench, and will happily buy one, if it's thought I should.) The 3 books I have say very little to help with straight forward jobs, and I thought getting some thoughts in the matter would be the best way to go. I actually think I've got it right except for any other needed rings, the tight seat of the slip ring and the torque point. Michael From jlaird237 at cox.net Thu Jun 28 17:57:21 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:57:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] AN5 References: <001401c7b9de$3c4101c0$b2aeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <003201c7b9e0$113d6e80$6401a8c0@personal> No other rings required, no torqueing required, just good and snug. There is a lock washer on that nut by the way. Put a bit of no stick on the wheel hub before putting it on then you can get it off next time easly. The part with the spring goes through the whole in the wheel, that holds it straight, it rubs on the slip ring and on the button. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Conn" To: "spridgets" Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] AN5 > List, > > My wife has completely surprised me, and purchased from Moss the > following: > > 1. Horn push; > 2. Horn brush; and > 3. Slip ring. > > Okay, you guys, I'm getting ready to have a go at re-installing the > original > steering wheel back on my AN5. I need a little help with 4 points, and > wonder whether someone out there would be able to help me with the > following, please: > > 1. When inserting the horn brush in the small hole in the steering wheel > is the idea that the spring end of the brush will end up touching the > circle > of metal on the slip ring and the other end touching the metal strip on > the > bottom of the horn push? (I'm fairly confident it is, but would like to > be > sure.) > > 2. Moss says the plastic base on the slip ring should be removed for > this > application. Do I just open up the brass ring clips, take off the > plastic > and close the clips back up? (I called Moss about this, but the Tech > Dept., was so busy they need two days notice of questions!) > > 3. Are there any other rings/washers which go on before or after the > slip > ring on the steering column? I can't see how the ring sits tight in the > steering wheel. If I just put the ring, with or without the plastic > base, > how is it held tight to keep contact with the brush and for it to move as > the steering wheel moves? (It would be easier, if having taken off the > existing wheel, it was just a matter of reversing the process. > Unfortunately, the exisiting wheel has a different "fixing" set up.) > > 4. Do I then just put the slip ring (and any other rings you tell me are > necessary) and the steering wheel on the steering column, and tightened up > the steering wheel nut? How important is it to torque the nut, or can I > simply make it good and tight? (I don't have a torque wrench, and will > happily buy one, if it's thought I should.) The 3 books I have say very > little to help with straight forward jobs, and I thought getting some > thoughts in the matter would be the best way to go. > > I actually think I've got it right except for any other needed rings, the > tight seat of the slip ring and the torque point. > > Michael > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.10/873 - Release Date: 6/26/2007 > 11:54 PM From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Thu Jun 28 18:50:20 2007 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:50:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] roll bars Message-ID: <072101c7b9e7$78078090$2dca010a@mail2world.com> I did (with my wife in the car!). And we're still here. Three things saved my melon: 1 Headrests 2 worn seat foams 3. I'm 5'8", she's 5'7" When the car did flip, it had scrubbed off most of its speed, but it was still moving sideways enough that the windshield frame collapsed. Our heads were touching the lawn we landed on. I missed the two trees on my way to the lawn. I now have a roll bar bolted in, made by Kirk racing products. I don't recall the dimensions offhand, but they did say it's the same tubing size they use in their SCCA bars. And it's a good 8-10" above my headrests. So that's my comment! :) -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: derf [derf247 at gmail.com] Sent: 6/28/2007 5:54:13 PM To: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] roll bars . If anyone did roll a Spridget (or Miata) without a roll bar they probably would not be around to comment on the experience. Neither car is easy to roll and when they do roll they are usually going fast and are usually hit by something else. Cheers, Derf _______________________________________________ . From mconn2 at bright.net Thu Jun 28 18:51:47 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 20:51:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] AN5 References: <001401c7b9de$3c4101c0$b2aeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> <003201c7b9e0$113d6e80$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: <000701c7b9e7$ac481ea0$d934ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Jack, Thank you. Do I take off the plastic base on the slip ring as Moss says? How does the slip ring stay tight in the bottom half of the re-installed wheel? Michael. From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu Jun 28 19:13:40 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:13:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] roll bars In-Reply-To: <000601c7b9cb$0a829c60$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <000601c7b9cb$0a829c60$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10706281813j67657d79tdf410db1bfcdf01@mail.gmail.com> Don't know if this counts, but I rolled a CJ5 32 years back. Bar held up just fine; 3 roll-overs. Mother of 4.2 lb Son did also. Boy was a couple months early. He turned 32 yesterday. Use as large (area permitting) steel plate as possible; spreads stress out over larger area. Just my two-cents. Herb (Try to) Keep the sticky side down! On 6/28/07, Glen Byrns wrote: > I posted this to the British Car Forum for a giggle, but I'm getting no > responses. So lets try the ultimate font of Spridget knowledge: > > I'm in the process of installing a roll bar in Bugsy. I'm bolting it in rather > that welding. This is the type of bar that is supported by large steel "feet" > at the end of short angled legs that attach to the main hoop, bolted atop the > wheel wells. The hoop legs end on the shelf just above the floor. Large > backing plates will be used beneath each attachment point. > > Has anyone had experience with a roll bar that actually got rolled? Did it > fail? How did it fail? > (more paranoia ahead of the Missouri drive next year) > > Thanks, > Glen Byrns > _______________________________________________ > froggi60 at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dwoerpel at wi.net Thu Jun 28 20:19:41 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:19:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A deviaTION, a screw or 2 In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070628173956.020cd618@nosimport.com> References: <017901c7b903$bcdd03f0$6401a8c0@refisk> <7.0.1.0.2.20070628143645.036b96c0@nosimport.com> <46843344.9000804@comcast.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20070628173113.036aac60@nosimport.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070628173956.020cd618@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <46846C3D.7050609@wi.net> Ok, I just removed the screw that's been in there for 10 years. It's a 6-32. It looks like the T-handle is slotted to expand a bit; always wondered about that. Peter, didn't the sheet metal screw distort the original female threads? Dave W Peter C wrote: > Survey says....? > hooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnkkkkkkkkkkk (how do you > spell the Family Feud buzzersound?) > Nope. > There's sumpthin' funny here. The replacements DO take a 10-32. > However the originals takes this stupid screw. It is smaller than > 10-32. It may be coarse because the sheetmetal screw fits pretty > darn well. I do not have an original bonnet handle laying around. > > PPP From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Thu Jun 28 20:49:44 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:49:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Your message to Spridgets awaits moderator approval In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0706280751j15812214nb6572a36222365a3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <335371.67420.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> So what does paying for bandwidth have to do with messages being delayed for as much as a week. "Flash." wrote: the guy has to pay for bandwidth out of his pocket. Lots of spam gets sent in that threshold, rather than our back and forth banter. Edit your replies! --------------------------------- Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 28 20:54:14 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 20:54:14 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Diffs again, if I may In-Reply-To: <791c73390706281921g28794bceo30bd306a8b5f9a24@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910706271343p62a3259dnaa8bf4feddd02eab@mail.gmail.com> <20070627231821.12942.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5f00d9910706271922n68705526k5e17bd4d858cef09@mail.gmail.com> <04de01c7b92d$64a48940$6401a8c0@Larry> <069901c7b97b$0b643120$6401a8c0@Larry> <5f00d9910706280606t22f2bf70nf915f497683c3ee7@mail.gmail.com> <791c73390706281921g28794bceo30bd306a8b5f9a24@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706281954t122b7bcdi6f8a0915b91c9a96@mail.gmail.com> I've never really tried for homosexuality or adultery. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Joe Miguchka Date: Jun 28, 2007 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may To: derf Derf, Admit it, that's just because you can't convince anyone to do either with you. JM On 6/28/07, derf < derf247 at gmail.com> wrote: > > I think homosexuality is immoral just > like adultery From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Thu Jun 28 20:58:03 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:58:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Your message to Spridgets awaits moderator approval In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0706280827x6c590703odb83d0c1754cd40@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <153893.61369.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> How do i get off the list? That way he will not have to worrie about bandwidth from me. Vigil Jim Johnson wrote: Vigil, Flash is correct. As long as I edit my replies to remove extraneous stuff and keep it under 4K everything works fine. I've only had one message go into moderate in the past 3 years. Also, I have donated to the autox.team effort in order to defray the costs which are coming out of the owners pocket.... Cheers!! Jim On 6/28/07, Flash. wrote: > the guy has to pay for bandwidth out of his pocket. Lots of spam gets > sent in that threshold, rather than our back and forth banter. > > Edit your replies! _______________________________________________ uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 28 21:00:16 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:00:16 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Your message to Spridgets awaits moderator approval In-Reply-To: <153893.61369.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <43840a7e0706280827x6c590703odb83d0c1754cd40@mail.gmail.com> <153893.61369.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706282000ib79069bjc9e756f6f6221205@mail.gmail.com> Click on the thing at the bottom of every list email. It looks like this: http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets Scroll down. Put in your info. Don't know your info? Email Mark. On 6/28/07, uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com wrote: > > How do i get off the list? From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 28 21:07:32 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:07:32 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] How to unsubscribe Message-ID: <5f00d9910706282007paca67atebd4d3b4df044d5c@mail.gmail.com> There have been a few questions about this so I'll go through the process. Go here: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets Type in the email address you use to receive list emails in the top blank. Scroll down and hit "Remind". Your password will be emailed to you. Go back to the options page: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets Enter your email address and password. Click unsubscribe. From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Thu Jun 28 21:09:19 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 20:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] How to unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706282007paca67atebd4d3b4df044d5c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <596095.90843.qm@web38911.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thank You Derf, Vigil derf wrote: There have been a few questions about this so I'll go through the process. Go here: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets Type in the email address you use to receive list emails in the top blank. Scroll down and hit "Remind". Your password will be emailed to you. Go back to the options page: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets Enter your email address and password. Click unsubscribe. _______________________________________________ uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. From wbmcleod at cox.net Thu Jun 28 21:24:56 2007 From: wbmcleod at cox.net (William McLeod) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 20:24:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Your message to Spridgets awaits moderator approval In-Reply-To: <335371.67420.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <335371.67420.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <78EF2357-41CF-49B2-8B82-2F2E1C5203B9@cox.net> I can't help but wonder if we are all talking about the same list! The autox lists (there are several) are moderated by Mark Bradakis at Fat Chance Garage in Utah, and have been for as long as I've been around, which is 5 - 6 years and counting. I have been happily donating periodically to his Paypal account for what I count as a series of extremely well run lists. You can't send pictures or other attachments, but I have yet to get much in the way of spam, either. If he has a problem, like last winter with his disappearing ISP, he lets us know as soon as possible. The members of these lists represent the creme de la creme of knowledge about Spridgets, and if we want to talk to Ed (who is one of the good guys, sort of) we know where to find him. If I had to give up any lists it would be the Yahoo lists, not the autox lists. The Yahoo lists tend to arrive in bunches, somewhat late. Regards, Bill Slightly Classics Tucson On Jun 28, 2007, at 7:49 PM, wrote: > So what does paying for bandwidth have to do with messages being > delayed for as much as a week. > > "Flash." wrote: the guy has to pay for > bandwidth out of his pocket. Lots of spam gets > sent in that threshold, rather than our back and forth banter. > > Edit your replies! From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Thu Jun 28 21:34:37 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 22:34:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Your message to Spridgets awaits moderator approval References: <335371.67420.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002701c7b9fe$6bef5ff0$6501a8c0@actualshop> Vigil: <> First part IS incorrect as Mark has his OWN server. And a "bandwidth theft" antotheft is pretty much built into his server AND in to bandwidth. As a rule, "safe" email List(s) are rarely subject to "bandwidth theft" HOWEVER id his Fat Chance site is on same server it "could" be "hot linked" (BTDT) which "might" effect the Lists. All my Lists use same program (MailMan) and I AM on the MailMan User Tech List (as is Mark) and I see these sort of problems from time to time and it has always NOT been MM as the fault, Now all THAT said, I will FLAT tell you yahoo has a on/off tendency to delay mail from Lists that are NOT yahoo ones. As above, seen that discussion also. Don't un-sub because of yahoo. Ed From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jun 28 23:13:48 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 00:13:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A deviaTION, a screw or 2 In-Reply-To: <46846C3D.7050609@wi.net> References: <017901c7b903$bcdd03f0$6401a8c0@refisk> <7.0.1.0.2.20070628143645.036b96c0@nosimport.com> <46843344.9000804@comcast.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20070628173113.036aac60@nosimport.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070628173956.020cd618@nosimport.com> <46846C3D.7050609@wi.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0706282213o36a49205i7dfba04417304f7f@mail.gmail.com> Hey Peter, Given all the myriad of possibilities and no solution yet forthcoming.... Do you have an arc welder... ;-) Cheers!! Jim On 6/28/07, David Woerpel wrote: > Ok, I just removed the screw that's been in there for 10 years. It's a > 6-32. It looks like the T-handle is slotted to expand a bit; always > wondered about that. > > Peter, didn't the sheet metal screw distort the original female threads? > Dave W > > Peter C wrote: > > Survey says....? > > hooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnkkkkkkkkkkk (how do you > > spell the Family Feud buzzersound?) > > Nope. > > There's sumpthin' funny here. The replacements DO take a 10-32. > > However the originals takes this stupid screw. It is smaller than > > 10-32. It may be coarse because the sheetmetal screw fits pretty > > darn well. I do not have an original bonnet handle laying around. > > > > PPP > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jun 28 23:17:27 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 00:17:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Diffs again, if I may In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706281954t122b7bcdi6f8a0915b91c9a96@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910706271343p62a3259dnaa8bf4feddd02eab@mail.gmail.com> <20070627231821.12942.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5f00d9910706271922n68705526k5e17bd4d858cef09@mail.gmail.com> <04de01c7b92d$64a48940$6401a8c0@Larry> <069901c7b97b$0b643120$6401a8c0@Larry> <5f00d9910706280606t22f2bf70nf915f497683c3ee7@mail.gmail.com> <791c73390706281921g28794bceo30bd306a8b5f9a24@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910706281954t122b7bcdi6f8a0915b91c9a96@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0706282217w7a818dc7g7c97dbad8c49b537@mail.gmail.com> Man! I hope you guys are wearing condoms while you type all this $hit!! Cheers! Jim On 6/28/07, derf wrote: > I've never really tried for homosexuality or adultery. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Joe Miguchka > Date: Jun 28, 2007 8:21 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may > To: derf > > Derf, > > Admit it, that's just because you can't convince anyone to do either with > you. > > JM > > On 6/28/07, derf < derf247 at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I think homosexuality is immoral just > > like adultery > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jun 28 23:28:04 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 00:28:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Your message to Spridgets awaits moderator approval In-Reply-To: <002701c7b9fe$6bef5ff0$6501a8c0@actualshop> References: <335371.67420.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <002701c7b9fe$6bef5ff0$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <43840a7e0706282228ncec252fla722e0e6b2f98bfa@mail.gmail.com> Thanks for the info, Ed. However I ran what you wrote through Babel Fish but it couldn't identify the language and translate into English. ;-) Undoubtedly YOU understood what you wrote, but I submit that no one else did.... Cheers!! Jim 63AHBJ7 <63AHBJ7 at comcast.net> wrote: > Vigil: > > < as much as a week.>> > > First part IS incorrect as Mark has his OWN server. And a "bandwidth theft" > antotheft is pretty much built into his server AND in to bandwidth. As a > rule, "safe" email List(s) are rarely subject to "bandwidth theft" HOWEVER id > his Fat Chance site is on same server it "could" be "hot linked" (BTDT) > which "might" effect the Lists. All my Lists use same program (MailMan) and I > AM on the MailMan User Tech List (as is Mark) and I see these sort of problems > from time to time and it has always NOT been MM as the fault, > > Now all THAT said, I will FLAT tell you yahoo has a on/off tendency to delay > mail from Lists that are NOT yahoo ones. As above, seen that discussion > also. > > Don't un-sub because of yahoo. > > Ed > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From dwramsey at worldnet.att.net Thu Jun 28 23:42:16 2007 From: dwramsey at worldnet.att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 22:42:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] AN5 In-Reply-To: <000701c7b9e7$ac481ea0$d934ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <20070629054249.BB1CC187A9C@autox.team.net> Duct Tape? Crash How does the slip ring stay tight in the bottom half of the re-installed wheel? Michael. From dwramsey at worldnet.att.net Thu Jun 28 23:46:02 2007 From: dwramsey at worldnet.att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 22:46:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] How to unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706282007paca67atebd4d3b4df044d5c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070629054630.C6A751879D3@autox.team.net> OK, Fred that's mean. Crash There have been a few questions about this so I'll go through the process. Go here: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets Type in the email address you use to receive list emails in the top blank. Scroll down and hit "Remind". Your password will be emailed to you. Go back to the options page: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets Enter your email address and password. Click unsubscribe From wmgilroy at gmail.com Thu Jun 28 23:50:48 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 22:50:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Your message to Spridgets awaits moderator approval In-Reply-To: <335371.67420.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <8a336b9d0706280751j15812214nb6572a36222365a3@mail.gmail.com> <335371.67420.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <441250190706282250l7a04dec8ud8b7a038cfa7047@mail.gmail.com> Mark has a life? On 6/28/07, uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com wrote: > > So what does paying for bandwidth have to do with messages being delayed > for as much as a week. > > "Flash." wrote: the guy has to pay for > bandwidth out of his pocket. Lots of spam gets > sent in that threshold, rather than our back and forth banter. > > Edit your replies! > > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss an email again! > Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. > _______________________________________________ > wmgilroy at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Jun 29 04:20:24 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 06:20:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Auto darkening Welding Shields In-Reply-To: <000c01c7b8ae$1a5b7490$4f125db0$@com> References: <205cef430706262029j16ada8b8u245eac98369363b9@mail.gmail.com> <000c01c7b8ae$1a5b7490$4f125db0$@com> Message-ID: <205cef430706290320m98de121rd58495e37b59b55c@mail.gmail.com> OK that is exactly what I wanted to hear I am going for the expensive one now. Thanks so much, Lin On 6/27/07, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > > Lin, > > I tried one of those cheapie auto darkening helmets from Harbor Freight.. > it > was sh*t. > > I paid the dough for a good one after that. > > WST > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 10:30 PM > To: Spridget > Subject: [Spridgets] Auto darkening Welding Shields > > List, > Today I finally went to the local welding shop in a neighboring town and > had > them hold a Lincoln MIG welder 135 (couldn't pick it up on my motorcycle) > it > is last years model on sale about $100. off list ether way it is still > expensive at $465. but I was tired of bidding on eBay for one. It comes > with > the gas gauges & hoses & I'll have to purchase the gas cylinder as an > extra > purchase. > I laughed at the hand held shield that came with the welder and asked to > see > some better shields so the sales man (son of owner of store) showed me an > auto darkening shield and gave me a demo of how they work and I was so > impressed with how quickly they activate with a spark he produced as they > operate with a solar cell to darken (Reaction time: 0.005 second on eBay > model) but the cheapest one he had is $150. and I told him I would take > one. When I got home I thought I would check on eBay and see they are > selling the shields for and was surprised that they are selling between > $25. > and $60. Are the eBay auto darkening shields any good? The one I am > looking > at right now states it meets ANSE Z87 standards. 170122073859 . > Lin > > 62 California Sprite "Pinky" > www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jun 29 05:58:43 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 06:58:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Your message to Spridgets awaits moderator approval References: <335371.67420.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com><002701c7b9fe$6bef5ff0$6501a8c0@actualshop> <43840a7e0706282228ncec252fla722e0e6b2f98bfa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <11f501c7ba44$d7c4f460$0401a8c0@midget> > Thanks for the info, Ed. However I ran what you wrote through Babel > Fish but it couldn't identify the language and translate into English. > ;-) Undoubtedly YOU understood what you wrote, but I submit that no > one else did.... To be fair, I understood enough to pick up that he doesn't know what he is talking about. Yes, ED, it does involve bandwidth. Given the number of lists that Mark hosts, total bandwidth of messages both in and out is a factor of life. Bandwidth costs money and he has to maintain a balance between service and affordability. Part of that is NOT allowing attachments. Sure it would be nice to swap pictures, but it is in no way essential; we have lots of ways around that with the current free image-hosting sites out there and Ed. Another part of it is limiting the size of each message. Since the messages are text-only, a 4k message says everything a body needs to say unless trying to report on the Buster Cluster or getting stuck in sugar sand. Any message that exceeds the size limit gets tossed into the bit bucket to wait for divine intervention; or Mark, whichever comes first. Yes, the weak link is Mark having time to look through the messages collected there and manually decide whether to send them on through or ditch them. What a pain for Mark! Of course, this is on top of going through all the messages and deciding which ones have sufficient Spridget content to justify sending them on to the moderated list. I have been on this list a fair number of years, but I have never gotten one of those messsages. I guess I have to try harder. As Flash said, trim down the amount of the message that you are quoting. David Lieb From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jun 29 07:03:59 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 07:03:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] How to unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <46849ca4.0269400a.0a59.4034SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> References: <5f00d9910706282007paca67atebd4d3b4df044d5c@mail.gmail.com> <46849ca4.0269400a.0a59.4034SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706290603v18036c76o3bb550ec1555aeb1@mail.gmail.com> No, it isn't mean. Mr. Daniel was asking how to unsubscribe, actually asking for someone to do it for him. ulbcs at yahoo was asking, too. When Mark B. changed to the new list program the procedure for subscribing/unsubscribing changed. I was being helpful, not malicious. On 6/28/07, David Ramsey wrote: > > OK, Fred that's mean. > Crash From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jun 29 07:05:23 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 07:05:23 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] A deviaTION, a screw or 2 In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0706282213o36a49205i7dfba04417304f7f@mail.gmail.com> References: <017901c7b903$bcdd03f0$6401a8c0@refisk> <7.0.1.0.2.20070628143645.036b96c0@nosimport.com> <46843344.9000804@comcast.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20070628173113.036aac60@nosimport.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070628173956.020cd618@nosimport.com> <46846C3D.7050609@wi.net> <43840a7e0706282213o36a49205i7dfba04417304f7f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706290605if2f395dg4b69889ea2025f11@mail.gmail.com> If original threads are smaller than 10-32 and original screws prove to be unobtainable, then maybe drill and tap to 10-32? Then again, if you want original, then you want original. From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Fri Jun 29 07:07:28 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 08:07:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Your message to Spridgets awaits moderator approval In-Reply-To: <11f501c7ba44$d7c4f460$0401a8c0@midget> References: <335371.67420.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <002701c7b9fe$6bef5ff0$6501a8c0@actualshop> <43840a7e0706282228ncec252fla722e0e6b2f98bfa@mail.gmail.com> <11f501c7ba44$d7c4f460$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0706290607g46a2f327lda9f648e4d3b60f5@mail.gmail.com> > To be fair, I understood enough to pick up that he doesn't know what he > is talking about. That's as far as I got. Thanks Dave, I didn't have it in my heart to argue with a donkey. On 6/29/07, David Lieb wrote: > > Thanks for the info, Ed. However I ran what you wrote through Babel > > Fish but it couldn't identify the language and translate into English. > > ;-) Undoubtedly YOU understood what you wrote, but I submit that no > > one else did.... > > To be fair, I understood enough to pick up that he doesn't know what he > is talking about. Yes, ED, it does involve bandwidth. Given the number of > lists that Mark hosts, total bandwidth of messages both in and out is a > factor of life. Bandwidth costs money and he has to maintain a balance > between service and affordability. Part of that is NOT allowing attachments. > Sure it would be nice to swap pictures, but it is in no way essential; we > have lots of ways around that with the current free image-hosting sites out > there and Ed. Another part of it is limiting the size of each message. Since > the messages are text-only, a 4k message says everything a body needs to say > unless trying to report on the Buster Cluster or getting stuck in sugar > sand. Any message that exceeds the size limit gets tossed into the bit > bucket to wait for divine intervention; or Mark, whichever comes first. Yes, > the weak link is Mark having time to look through the messages collected > there and manually decide whether to send them on through or ditch them. > What a pain for Mark! Of course, this is on top of going through all the > messages and deciding which ones have sufficient Spridget content to justify > sending them on to the moderated list. > > I have been on this list a fair number of years, but I have never gotten one > of those messsages. I guess I have to try harder. As Flash said, trim down > the amount of the message that you are quoting. > David Lieb > _______________________________________________ -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jun 29 07:08:38 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 07:08:38 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Auto darkening Welding Shields In-Reply-To: <205cef430706290320m98de121rd58495e37b59b55c@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430706262029j16ada8b8u245eac98369363b9@mail.gmail.com> <000c01c7b8ae$1a5b7490$4f125db0$@com> <205cef430706290320m98de121rd58495e37b59b55c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706290608i4198442aub5c90e424f6999b0@mail.gmail.com> Did you get Frank's offer for a FREE one? I don't know if it is a cheap one, but it is FREE. I'd look into it. On 6/29/07, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > OK that is exactly what I wanted to hear I am going for the expensive one > now. > Thanks so much, > Lin From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jun 29 08:08:41 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 08:08:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] How to unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <596095.90843.qm@web38911.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <5f00d9910706282007paca67atebd4d3b4df044d5c@mail.gmail.com> <596095.90843.qm@web38911.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706290708g4cf2d2b7y34c45b45f208b246@mail.gmail.com> BTW, there is an option to stay on the list and just not receive for a while, which may be of interest to Mr. Daniel if he plans to be off and then return at a later date. With the new system, you have to log in with a password to change stuff. There may even be a way to filter out unwanted content. From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jun 29 08:18:23 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 09:18:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A deviaTION, a screw or 2 In-Reply-To: <46846C3D.7050609@wi.net> References: <017901c7b903$bcdd03f0$6401a8c0@refisk> <7.0.1.0.2.20070628143645.036b96c0@nosimport.com> <46843344.9000804@comcast.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20070628173113.036aac60@nosimport.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070628173956.020cd618@nosimport.com> <46846C3D.7050609@wi.net> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070629091301.03952bd0@nosimport.com> Thank you Dave. I will try that. I didn't drive it to work today, though. I am curious why the part number is so different. I'm sure everyone knows that the BMC number for fasteners indicate size, type and finish. This particular screw has an individual part number that separates it from that sort of nomenclature. There MUST be something non-standard about it. Also, it was discontinued pretty early in the production run. If I were a concours judge, I'd take 20 points off for a bad screw. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- At 09:19 PM 6/28/2007, David Woerpel wrote: >Ok, I just removed the screw that's been in there for 10 years. It's a >6-32. It looks like the T-handle is slotted to expand a bit; always >wondered about that. > >Peter, didn't the sheet metal screw distort the original female threads? >Dave W From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri Jun 29 08:21:31 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 09:21:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A deviaTION, a screw or 2 In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070629091301.03952bd0@nosimport.com> References: <017901c7b903$bcdd03f0$6401a8c0@refisk> <7.0.1.0.2.20070628143645.036b96c0@nosimport.com> <46843344.9000804@comcast.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20070628173113.036aac60@nosimport.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070628173956.020cd618@nosimport.com> <46846C3D.7050609@wi.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20070629091301.03952bd0@nosimport.com> Message-ID: I"m not a concours judge, but I do the same amount of demerits, while on a date... On 6/29/07, Peter C wrote: > > If I were a concours judge, I'd take 20 points off for a bad screw. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jun 29 08:32:12 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 09:32:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A deviaTION, a screw or 2 References: <017901c7b903$bcdd03f0$6401a8c0@refisk><7.0.1.0.2.20070628143645.036b96c0@nosimport.com><46843344.9000804@comcast.net><7.0.1.0.2.20070628173113.036aac60@nosimport.com><7.0.1.0.2.20070628173956.020cd618@nosimport.com><46846C3D.7050609@wi.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20070629091301.03952bd0@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <08d101c7ba5a$4993e280$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter C" To: "David Woerpel" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A deviaTION, a screw or 2 If I were a concours judge, I'd take 20 points off for a bad screw. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You have no idea how hard it is to let an opening line like that go. LAD From cfchrist at earthlink.net Fri Jun 29 08:55:37 2007 From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 10:55:37 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [Spridgets] hospital....again! Message-ID: <7841246.1183128937890.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> i'm an hour from heading for surgery....again! frank, larry, kevin , keep yer pasws crossed fer me! i'll be home in 1 to 3 days i'm told. i hope the doctor is right! 5 hernias along a rather long prior incision site have me a bit concerned! i'll be back on line in a few days...... chuck. (i'm not "into" this!.....actually i'm kinda bugged out by this!) From John.Deikis at va.gov Fri Jun 29 09:00:20 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 11:00:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] A deviaTION, a screw or 2 In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070628143645.036b96c0@nosimport.com> References: <017901c7b903$bcdd03f0$6401a8c0@refisk> <7.0.1.0.2.20070628143645.036b96c0@nosimport.com> Message-ID: Are these torque-sensing screws or the limited slip variety? -----Original Message----- From: Peter C [mailto:peter at nosimport.com] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 3:43 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] A deviaTION, a screw or 2 Uh, if I may interrupt ... I could use 2 screws BMC number 6K9833 Besides being used on my Mini door latches, they are also used on Bugeye/Frogeye bonnet latches. As you can tell by the part number, they are not a standard type item. The screws available for the BE application are for the replacement latch gizmo. And no, I DFK if they are Posi-pozi drive or not. So, anyone have 2 screws of the 4 used on a BE bonnet to attach the latch bit that takes the handle? Accessible from behind the grille. Thanks Peter C. Lord, I pray my brakes are twice as good as the guy in front of me.... ... and half as good as the guy behind. From John.Deikis at va.gov Fri Jun 29 09:05:51 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 11:05:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] roll bars In-Reply-To: <000601c7b9cb$0a829c60$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <000601c7b9cb$0a829c60$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: I have a single hoop cross-brace roll bar, bolted in. I rolled my car at Gingerman Raceway about 9 years ago. Didn't budge the bar at all. Did break the windshield, though. And scratched the paint. The whole thing was an initiation rite to get into Team Thicko. JohnD -----Original Message----- From: Glen Byrns [mailto:grbyrns at ucdavis.edu] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 5:27 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] roll bars I posted this to the British Car Forum for a giggle, but I'm getting no responses. So lets try the ultimate font of Spridget knowledge: I'm in the process of installing a roll bar in Bugsy. I'm bolting it in rather that welding. This is the type of bar that is supported by large steel "feet" at the end of short angled legs that attach to the main hoop, bolted atop the wheel wells. The hoop legs end on the shelf just above the floor. Large backing plates will be used beneath each attachment point. Has anyone had experience with a roll bar that actually got rolled? Did it fail? How did it fail? (more paranoia ahead of the Missouri drive next year) Thanks, Glen Byrns From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jun 29 09:08:31 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 09:08:31 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] A deviaTION, a screw or 2 In-Reply-To: References: <017901c7b903$bcdd03f0$6401a8c0@refisk> <7.0.1.0.2.20070628143645.036b96c0@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706290808r51cd64e5oa58f70f1a62b86fe@mail.gmail.com> No, no, they are Potsidrive. On 6/29/07, Deikis, John G wrote: > > Are these torque-sensing screws or the limited slip variety? From hal at katemuir.com Fri Jun 29 09:19:54 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 08:19:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] AN5 In-Reply-To: <001401c7b9de$3c4101c0$b2aeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: Michael, I'm not totally clear on what you need here, BUT that won't stop me from throwing in my .02. The slip ring is held in the steering column surround, a kind of cone shaped plastic between the steering wheel and the dash (or facia, if you'rre of that persuasion. This cone is firmly attached to the dash (doesn't turn with the wheel) hence the slip ring is stationary when the wheel is turned.) The brush goes through the steering wheel and contacts the slip ring when the horn button is pushed. I don't know if this helps or muddies the water. Hal From dwramsey at worldnet.att.net Fri Jun 29 11:24:08 2007 From: dwramsey at worldnet.att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 10:24:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] How to unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706290603v18036c76o3bb550ec1555aeb1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070629172441.5FC711879D6@autox.team.net> You are right, sorry I didn't get the messages about people wanting to unsubscribe until after I sent my reply. I seem to be getting answers before I get the questions. Maybe Mark should change the name of the list to Jeopardy at autox.team.net. Crash No, it isn't mean. Mr. Daniel was asking how to unsubscribe, actually asking for someone to do it for him. ulbcs at yahoo was asking, too. When Mark B. changed to the new list program the procedure for subscribing/unsubscribing changed. I was being helpful, not malicious. OK, Fred that's mean. Crash From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 29 13:43:18 2007 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:43:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Needed Heater Control Knob assembly and cable from 68+ Spridget Message-ID: <20070629194318.49595.qmail@web34204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Anyone parting out a 68+ Spridget. I need a Heater Control assembly and Heater Control Knob. Also looking for a cable as well that is not all rusted up. I managed to score one last week and proceeded to crack the knob and then managed to lose the little retainer pin that holds the knob on. The Heater control knob BTW has a spring loaded clip and is easily removable by using a small nail / compass point to press in the spring loaded retainer clip If anyone has one of these to spare please let me know. Jim Gruber Bugsy '68 Sprite (future Bugeye in disguise) Cincinnati, OH --------------------------------- Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. From thcollin at mtu.edu Fri Jun 29 13:59:18 2007 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:59:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Air compressors in tandem - possible? Message-ID: <60324o$cvfdt@email.mtu.edu> This Fall I will probably be ready to sandblast the body tub of my '66 Sprite. I have been blasting parts at home using my Sears 2 HP, 7.4 cfm @ 90 psi, 240 volt, 20 amp compressor. For the doors, boot lid and small parts the compressor does well. Oh, the other important part is a Harbor F. pressure pot. It works well! My complaint isn't with the HF pot, but I just have marginal cfm's from the compressor for sand blasting. On the tub, the compressor will never catch up and run continuously. I was thinking about borrowing another small compressor to gain a few more cfm's and us it in tandem with my compressor - don't really need that many more cfm to have a satisfactory system. But, as I though about it, I figured that it wouldn't work to use two compressors to feed the pot. My thinking is that the comp. with the "highest" low pressure setting will be the one that always does all the work. The other compressor won't come on and will only contribute it's tank to the system to store more cfm's. Since they would be connected together somehow, both comp's would see the same tank pressure. The possibility of setting both pressure switches to come on at the same time are probably pretty slim - I am guessing. I don't really want to rent a 125 cfm LeRoy or Sulair, etc since I live in a subdivision. I guess I'll have to see if the rental places have anything between little nail gun compressors and the big boys. I could farm the blasting out, but here in Dow Chemical / Dow Corning country, the blasters are oriented to doing pieces of industrial machinery and piping I suppose. I'd worry about what they could do to a 41 year old Sprite. Anyone ever tried using two compressors in tandem (I guess the proper word would be "in parallel" - two compressors feeding into a common manifold from which the pot draws its air? Tim Collins From kevin at valentinephoto.net Fri Jun 29 14:23:10 2007 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:23:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Air compressors in tandem - possible? In-Reply-To: <60324o$cvfdt@email.mtu.edu> References: <60324o$cvfdt@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: On Jun 29, 2007, at 3:59 PM, Timothy H. Collins wrote: > > Anyone ever tried using two compressors in tandem (I guess the proper > word would be "in parallel" - two compressors feeding into a common > manifold from which the pot draws its air? > Tim, I've done this a few times when running 2 roofing nailers or several air tools at the same time. We used this set-up at the Oshit for Rob's yellow Spridget last summer. It worked well for me. The two compressors I use don't come on at exactly the same time, but just keep sandblasting and they will both be running ;) Kevin V. From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jun 29 14:37:40 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:37:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Air compressors in tandem - possible? In-Reply-To: References: <60324o$cvfdt@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706291337i73b4a86ew5cdff3eaff0a4c90@mail.gmail.com> You might be able to rig a common tank or check valves or both. Ideally, you'd want them to both turn on at the same pressure. From smarc at smarc.net Fri Jun 29 15:07:23 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:07:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Air compressors in tandem - possible? In-Reply-To: <60324o$cvfdt@email.mtu.edu> References: <60324o$cvfdt@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <4685748B.6060208@smarc.net> Think of it as a great excuse to get a way better compressor! I bought a big HF compressor a few years ago to replace a small oil less Campbell Hausfeld model. Have never regretted it, and everything from blasting cabinet to impact wrenches just work better. Marc Timothy H. Collins wrote: > a 41 year old Sprite. > > Anyone ever tried using two compressors in tandem (I guess the proper > word would be "in parallel" - two compressors feeding into a common > manifold from which the pot draws its air? From duncan at pondhop.com Fri Jun 29 15:33:08 2007 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:33:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Air compressors in tandem - possible? In-Reply-To: <60324o$cvfdt@email.mtu.edu> References: <60324o$cvfdt@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <003301c7ba95$1620f2e0$4262d8a0$@com> I did exactly this when I blasted my tub. I built a little T manifold from galv plumbing parts and I think a small check valve on the small compressor side to stop any back feeding. Cost about $10 total from Home Defect or similar. Duncan From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Fri Jun 29 16:18:32 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:18:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] stupid "LBC" story Message-ID: <000e01c7ba9b$6dffb400$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> I was at Kragen this week and the kid behind the counter saw my Spridgets at autox tee-shirt. He looked out to the parking lot and asked about the A35. He then offered that his brother-in-law was also into old English cars. "Really" sez I, "Yeah", sez he. "He's been fixing up old Beemers for years". Beemers as in BMWs, I ask? "Yeah, he only likes the ones from British Motor Works". After a long pause, I gently pointed out that Bavaria was just a tad closer to Germany than England. "Whoooaaa, dude! Really??" I couldn't think of another word at that point and headed home offering a silent prayer for desperate DIYs seeking car knowledge from this local "guru of grease". Glen Byrns From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jun 29 16:49:17 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:49:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] stupid "LBC" story References: <000e01c7ba9b$6dffb400$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <094a01c7ba9f$ba51fc10$6401a8c0@Larry> Priceless, Glen. LMAO. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen Byrns" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 5:18 PM Subject: [Spridgets] stupid "LBC" story I was at Kragen this week and the kid behind the counter saw my Spridgets at autox tee-shirt. He looked out to the parking lot and asked about the A35. He then offered that his brother-in-law was also into old English cars. "Really" sez I, "Yeah", sez he. "He's been fixing up old Beemers for years". Beemers as in BMWs, I ask? "Yeah, he only likes the ones from British Motor Works". After a long pause, I gently pointed out that Bavaria was just a tad closer to Germany than England. "Whoooaaa, dude! Really??" I couldn't think of another word at that point and headed home offering a silent prayer for desperate DIYs seeking car knowledge from this local "guru of grease". Glen Byrns From dmg at bossig.com Fri Jun 29 17:12:14 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (dmg at bossig.com) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:12:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] '65 Window seals Message-ID: <46852F5E.22043.37DFA6@dmg.bossig.com> Another dumks question... Do I have to remove the inner panels and windows to fit the inner "fuzzy" and outer "rubber wiper" seals for th ewind up windows?? TIA Dave G. From duncan at pondhop.com Fri Jun 29 17:40:24 2007 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:40:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] '65 Window seals In-Reply-To: <46852F5E.22043.37DFA6@dmg.bossig.com> References: <46852F5E.22043.37DFA6@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <004e01c7baa6$de48d100$9ada7300$@com> Yes to get to the clips underneath which are a real PITA Duncan -----Original Message----- From: dmg at bossig.com [mailto:dmg at bossig.com] Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 6:12 PM To: spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] '65 Window seals Another dumks question... Do I have to remove the inner panels and windows to fit the inner "fuzzy" and outer "rubber wiper" seals for th ewind up windows?? TIA Dave G. _______________________________________________ duncan at pondhop.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Fri Jun 29 18:11:48 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 20:11:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Diffs again, if I may In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706281954t122b7bcdi6f8a0915b91c9a96@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910706271343p62a3259dnaa8bf4feddd02eab@mail.gmail.com> <20070627231821.12942.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5f00d9910706271922n68705526k5e17bd4d858cef09@mail.gmail.com> <04de01c7b92d$64a48940$6401a8c0@Larry> <069901c7b97b$0b643120$6401a8c0@Larry> <5f00d9910706280606t22f2bf70nf915f497683c3ee7@mail.gmail.com> <791c73390706281921g28794bceo30bd306a8b5f9a24@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910706281954t122b7bcdi6f8a0915b91c9a96@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9A754FD2-0E40-441C-BC54-D64D9D132B6C@phillymgclub.com> Ya know, this whole conversation, while at some points is entertaining, makes absolutely no DIFF to me. On Jun 28, 2007, at 10:54 PM, derf wrote: > I've never really tried for homosexuality or adultery. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Joe Miguchka > Date: Jun 28, 2007 8:21 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may > To: derf > > Derf, > > Admit it, that's just because you can't convince anyone to do either > with > you. > > JM > > On 6/28/07, derf < derf247 at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I think homosexuality is immoral just >> like adultery > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Fri Jun 29 18:14:56 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:14:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] '65 Window seals In-Reply-To: <46852F5E.22043.37DFA6@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <200706300014.l5U0EZ5I004228@ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com> Oh yeah. Just found out the hard way. Don't forget to clean and grease the rails in there. Who has the best deals on the strips anyway? Thanks Chris 66 -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dmg at bossig.com Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 6:12 PM To: spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] '65 Window seals Another dumks question... Do I have to remove the inner panels and windows to fit the inner "fuzzy" and outer "rubber wiper" seals for th ewind up windows?? TIA Dave G. _______________________________________________ cmanuel at wi.rr.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From duncan at pondhop.com Fri Jun 29 18:27:06 2007 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:27:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] '65 Window seals In-Reply-To: <200706300014.l5U0EZ5I004228@ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com> References: <46852F5E.22043.37DFA6@dmg.bossig.com> <200706300014.l5U0EZ5I004228@ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <005001c7baad$638f1b20$2aad5160$@com> << Who has the best deals on the strips anyway?>> I ordered mine from AH Spares. Seem fine no complaints yet Duncan From dmg at bossig.com Fri Jun 29 19:21:11 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (dmg at bossig.com) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:21:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] '65 Window seals In-Reply-To: <004f01c7baad$3be01c00$b3a05400$@com> References: <46852F5E.22043.37DFA6@dmg.bossig.com>, <4685376E.29047.575FAD@dmg.bossig.com>, <004f01c7baad$3be01c00$b3a05400$@com> Message-ID: <46854D97.29620.ADF032@dmg.bossig.com> Thanks to all who responded.... I now have an idea of what I have to do... Believe it or not (Ripley?), none of the 6 different manuals I have show how to do this... Haynes, Bentley, Clymer, Porter's book, etc.. none of them show this... I'd be lost without this group... Dave G. From pythias at pacifier.com Fri Jun 29 22:00:46 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 21:00:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1966 hardtop parts Message-ID: <175179802.20070629210046@pacifier.com> Hello Spridgets, i'm sniping ebay item 130129172761 .. a hard top for my '66. the ad says it needs rear clips, and new window seals.. ... are these items available somewhere? or should i cancel my snipe as the top is a white elephant? -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite "the red thing" (HAN8L 49403) If i didn't exist they'ed have to invent me From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jun 30 06:39:17 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 06:39:17 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 1966 hardtop parts In-Reply-To: <175179802.20070629210046@pacifier.com> References: <175179802.20070629210046@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706300539j2473351td44438f03c9e539f@mail.gmail.com> I would get it for the right price. Something could be fabricated to hold the back. Either something that slides into the rear clips like the soft top or something at the corners near the doors. See if you can find someone else with the same top and get an idea of how it is supposed to work and what hardware is missing. Cheers, Derf From dwoerpel at wi.net Sat Jun 30 08:32:58 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 09:32:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] sighting Message-ID: <4686699A.1000109@wi.net> Was golfing (chewing up the course) at Kettle Moraine Friday and along Hwy. "67" came a familiar sound! Dark green (Soave street car color) Bugeye with two stripes down the middle. Anyone on the list? BTW, sounded like the engine was missing a little. (DO NOT say, "a little what?" ;-) ). Out to work on a Spitfire....a gorgeous day here in cheeseland!! Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS Burlington WI From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Jun 30 10:07:37 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 12:07:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] hospital....again! In-Reply-To: <7841246.1183128937890.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <7841246.1183128937890.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <205cef430706300907n3f668c22t277acf3e0e53c95d@mail.gmail.com> Good luck Chuck I'll send good car Karma your way. Linda On 6/29/07, charles christ wrote: > > i'm an hour from heading for surgery....again! frank, larry, kevin , > keep yer pasws crossed fer me! i'll be home in 1 to 3 days i'm told. i > hope the doctor is right! 5 hernias along a rather long prior incision > site have me a bit concerned! i'll be back on line in a few days...... > > chuck. > (i'm not "into" this!.....actually i'm kinda bugged out by this!) > _______________________________________________ > grunthaner at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Jun 30 10:13:29 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 12:13:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC ....lawn mower question Message-ID: <205cef430706300913v1cae2261t5edd9163fab1d21b@mail.gmail.com> List, I'm trying to trouble shoot my mower problem, I have a Briggs & Stratton 4hp mower that is not idling properly, sort of hi-low idle sound. I replaced the spark plug and air filter and keep thinking I should take out the carburetor & clean it. I went online and got a message from a guy saying it sounded like the governor spring was stretched out. I'll take it apart today and try and get a new spring. Now what does the governor do and look like and can I twist the spring to test out the shorter length? Linda 62 California Sprite "Pinky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Jun 30 10:22:35 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 12:22:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] not LBC .....vintage VW question Message-ID: <205cef430706300922pfc07a2s4eccee6642ea51c4@mail.gmail.com> List, Does anyone know of a vintage VW list like our Spridget list? I'm shopping for an early 60's possibly 50"s VW bus or camper and I am feverishly reading many books and websites to learn as much as I can. I found lots of great sites especially the Samba site that was made by a man & his wife in which they even scanned hundreds of books, manuals brochures and photos categorized from early 50's to 2003. This site is incredible they also have a classified. If it wasn't so much work I would love to make one for the Sprigets perhaps when I retire. check it out http://www.thesamba.com/ If anyone knows of a 50's-60's VW bus/camper for sale (US only) let me know I lost out on 2 via ebay & Samba site because I was out of town. Thanks Linda 62 California Sprite "Pinky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jun 30 10:47:15 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 10:47:15 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] not LBC .....vintage VW question In-Reply-To: <205cef430706300922pfc07a2s4eccee6642ea51c4@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430706300922pfc07a2s4eccee6642ea51c4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706300947g670a8ca3s4a7965e99739b91@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I am supposed to talk with a lady today about buying her 73 Super Beetle. I will share one of my patented search secrets with you. Type "craigslist volkswagen bus" into google and see what pops up. You may also try "vw" instead of "volkswagen" or maybe terms like "microbus". When the google search pops up, scan the green text for areas near you. The first word in the green text will be a city or area. On a humorous note I googled "craigslist midget" searching for MG Midget stuff. One ad read something like: "Wanted Midget. My friends and I are looking for a midget or little person to hang out with us." I guess they watched too much Seinfeld or Jackass. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jun 30 10:52:42 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 10:52:42 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC ....lawn mower question In-Reply-To: <205cef430706300913v1cae2261t5edd9163fab1d21b@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430706300913v1cae2261t5edd9163fab1d21b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910706300952m37c44801h3f4a89be09e451f2@mail.gmail.com> Hi, The governor is a mechanical device that limits the RPMs of the motor. It will be an arm coming from the crank case with a spring that attaches the the throttle via a wire linkage, probably. Lawn mower motors are supposed to go 3600RPM max at WOT. You more than likely have a dirty carb. Trash in the carb is the #1 lawn mower problem. How old is the mower? Most newer mowers have fixed jets and can just be taken apart and cleaned and put back together pretty easily. Older carbs have adjustments that need to be made. Cheers, Derf From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net Sat Jun 30 12:02:26 2007 From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (Richard Feibusch) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 10:02:26 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Oxnard, California - All British Car/Bike Show 7-22-07 Message-ID: ************************************************** The 17th Annual Central Coast British Car Club's All British Car & Motorcycle Show July 22, 2007 All Day 8:00 am to 4:00 pm Channel Islands Yacht Harbor 3600 Harbor Blvd. Oxnard Beach, CA Featured Marque: Morgan Cars and 3-wheelers Trophies in every class- Raffle Prizes given all day! Swap Meet! ~ Entertainment! ~ Food! - Fun! Please call C. Darryl Struth at (805) 644-6211 Or Don Greene (805) 652-0330 or email: , To get a registration form go on line to the clubs website: http://www.centralcoastbritishcarclub.com ***************************************************** From pilotrob at webtv.net Sat Jun 30 11:15:45 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:15:45 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Mufflers (speaking of wuss parts...) Message-ID: Bullet shaped? If so, it's called a "turbo glasspack". It's a double pass/somewhat baffled free flow. Tried to access the WCJitney site but too busy. It's there though...have seen it before. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Sat Jun 30 12:10:14 2007 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 13:10:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] horn brush Message-ID: <8de85a9c0706301110s335f4994s639e2cbeabcc17f4@mail.gmail.com> Finally had time to troubleshoot why the horns don't work on my 73 Midget. The previous owner switched from the original steering wheel to the wood steering wheel that VB sells. Unfortunately for me he failed to install the horn brush in the steering wheel hub when he did that. When I called VB they stated they can't supply one separate from a new wheel. I'm guessing the brush from the original wheel would work ... does anyone have a spare horn brush they would like to get rid of ? If so please contact me off list. From froggi60 at gmail.com Sat Jun 30 15:40:30 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 14:40:30 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC ....lawn mower question In-Reply-To: <205cef430706300913v1cae2261t5edd9163fab1d21b@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430706300913v1cae2261t5edd9163fab1d21b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10706301440w31535383t980742522dd342e7@mail.gmail.com> Don't fail to use "STA-BIL" when putting your mower and other equipment away for the winter. AND...don't forget to do the same for your "toys" that set over winter or long periods of time. Most of us learn the hard way on this 'tip'. Herb Keep the sticky side down! From wsthompson at thicko.com Sat Jun 30 16:42:56 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:42:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910706271343p62a3259dnaa8bf4feddd02eab@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910706271223g1172112egf40d6f7736d2120@mail.gmail.com> <4454.75.49.210.205.1182975382.squirrel@www.thicko.com> <5f00d9910706271343p62a3259dnaa8bf4feddd02eab@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001c7bb68$046cf1b0$0d46d510$@com> True dat yo. From: derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 3:43 PM To: wsthompson at thicko.com Cc: Daniel1312 at aol.com; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Diffs again, if I may Welded diffs, OK for racing but not best for street use, no? From pythias at pacifier.com Sat Jun 30 18:21:51 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:21:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NOS Shox! Message-ID: <1899033751.20070630172151@pacifier.com> Hello , ebay item # 160132193613 at a so far, reasonable price! -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite "the red thing" (HAN8L 49403) If i didn't exist they'ed have to invent me From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Sat Jun 30 21:12:48 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 20:12:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC ....lawn mower question References: <205cef430706300913v1cae2261t5edd9163fab1d21b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000701c7bb8d$b4b82ba0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Hi Linda, Recently I had a similar problem with my B&S lawn mowere, but it was mostly running rich. Took it to the lawn mower man and he said it's a simple fix. New carb!! He said the original cheap carbs are being eaten up with assorted items now being used in todays gasoline. Said he: $59.95 and it will be better than new. He was so right! I bit the bullet and now it uses so much less gas, I can pay for it with savings of $3.00 a gallon gas!! FWIW, Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner" To: "Spridget" Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 9:13 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC ....lawn mower question > List, > I'm trying to trouble shoot my mower problem, I have a Briggs & Stratton 4hp > mower that is not idling properly, sort of hi-low idle sound. I replaced the > spark plug and air filter and keep thinking I should take out the carburetor > & clean it. I went online and got a message from a guy saying it sounded > like the governor spring was stretched out. I'll take it apart today and try > and get a new spring. Now what does the governor do and look like and can I > twist the spring to test out the shorter length? > Linda > > 62 California Sprite "Pinky" > www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner From millerls at ado13.com Sat Jun 30 23:25:15 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 22:25:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] MGB Tach Troubles Message-ID: <02fd01c7bba0$355394e0$d280bc43@HP> I know that a lot of you have MGB's and can probably answer a question for a friend of mine. After the car warms up, the tach starts responding to the turn signals. It dips downward each time the signal clicks. It also sometimes goes to zero when the brakes are applied. The emergency flashers do not affect it. Larry Miller From millerls at ado13.com Sat Jun 30 23:32:29 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 22:32:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Needle Point/ Cross Stiching(NO LBC) Message-ID: <030101c7bba1$37d56850$d280bc43@HP> I know nothing about this subject but am sure someone on this list does. I have a friend that is looking for PC software that will generate a grid and stitching instructions based on the color pattern in a JPEG image? Larry Miller