From hal at katemuir.com Sun Jul 1 00:42:22 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:42:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NOS Shox! In-Reply-To: <1899033751.20070630172151@pacifier.com> Message-ID: But you can get better than new from Peter C, for about the same $. Hal -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Bill L Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 5:22 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] NOS Shox! Hello , ebay item # 160132193613 at a so far, reasonable price! -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite "the red thing" (HAN8L 49403) If i didn't exist they'ed have to invent me _______________________________________________ hal at katemuir.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From hal at katemuir.com Sun Jul 1 00:43:48 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:43:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NOS Shox! In-Reply-To: <1899033751.20070630172151@pacifier.com> Message-ID: But for about the same you can get better than new from Peter C. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Bill L Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 5:22 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] NOS Shox! Hello , ebay item # 160132193613 at a so far, reasonable price! - From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Sun Jul 1 04:25:40 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 06:25:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] MGB Tach Troubles In-Reply-To: <02fd01c7bba0$355394e0$d280bc43@HP> References: <02fd01c7bba0$355394e0$d280bc43@HP> Message-ID: Bad ground in the rear light circuit. Larry On Jul 1, 2007, at 1:25 AM, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > I know that a lot of you have MGB's and can probably answer a > question for a > friend of mine. After the car warms up, the tach starts responding > to the > turn signals. It dips downward each time the signal clicks. It also > sometimes goes to zero when the brakes are applied. The emergency > flashers > do not affect it. > > Larry Miller > _______________________________________________ > -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at bbl.med.upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From abcoz at hky.com Sun Jul 1 04:57:16 2007 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 06:57:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] speaking of shocks Message-ID: <005d01c7bbce$96ae2240$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> After finally getting around to installing my newly Peter C remanufactured shock absorbers a few weeks ago, I took my Midget on an extended run, yesterday. The extended run was with our local Triumph club, and was just under 200 miles, over a lot of typical western PA and Ohio back roads....great curves and elevation changes, but, not anywhere near what you'd call smooth. As usual, I was with the "fast group", and those shocks really got a good work-out! The car was an absolute delight to drive! No "hopping" over surface irregularities and no mystery about where the car was going to go. You know, as suspension components wear, we subconsciously adapt to what it does to our car's handling, until we finally realize that: "hey, this little piglet has gotten really squirrelly". I finally got tired of my Midget's sub-standard road manners last year, and Peter C's shocks were the final phase of a complete suspension overhaul. I'm VERY pleased, and the old shocks are in the box, ready to be sent back to Peter for a rebuild (when I finally get the time to drop them off at UPS). I wonder how many Spridgets out there need new shocks, and/or complete suspension rebuilds. I'm thinking probably a fairly high percentage of them do. Bud Osbourne From mark at nashvilletn.org Sun Jul 1 08:02:58 2007 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 09:02:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC...Looking for SeaDoo Info. Message-ID: <00c201c7bbe8$887e16c0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> I know there is a wealth of knowledge on this list and hopefully someone can give me some tips. My Daughter bought a 95 SeaDoo Jet Ski with a 580 engine. It runs but seems to run out of grunt and misses at high RPM under load. We have checked compression and it measures 150psi in both cylinders. We replaced plugs which were fouled with a new set of NGK's as specified. It starts and idles but will die unless you give it some gas. On the trailer, with the garden hose attached, it runs fine; it only has a problem under load which makes it difficult to diagnose. It has fresh gas but I haven't found the fuel filter yet, maybe today. Any experts on the Rotax 2 stroke engine that can tell me what a logical approach is to finding the problem? Mark Nashville http://www.arrestmered.com From smarc at smarc.net Sun Jul 1 08:02:25 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2007 10:02:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] seal retainer install? Message-ID: <4687B3F1.9060801@smarc.net> Finally got my rear brakes squared away, with new hoses, new L/H backing plate & adjuster, new O ring and gasket on both hubs, new wheel cylinders and shoes. Got started on replacing the seals in my front calipers. Starting on the first one, I got one side in, turned it over, and while installing the second, promptly got the retainer ring off center and ruined it. So guess I won't be able to finish the brakes till Tuesday or Wednesday now... Feels like the whole summer is getting away.. I have NOT split the calipers. Is there some trick to installing the seals or the pistons? I lubed the seals with fresh brake fluid before inserting the piston, but it was very challenging to say the least. To install the seal retainer, I laid a piece of flat bar stock across the seal and carefully pressed it in with a couple C clamps... -- Marc From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Jul 1 09:39:03 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 11:39:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC ....lawn mower question In-Reply-To: <000701c7bb8d$b4b82ba0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <205cef430706300913v1cae2261t5edd9163fab1d21b@mail.gmail.com> <000701c7bb8d$b4b82ba0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <205cef430707010839y138c5ed3hfc1e39d7666a3253@mail.gmail.com> Paul, That sounds like the easiest least expensive long term fix for me although before I get to that step I'm going to go and cut the lawn (if she makes it) and then I'll remove the carburetor and try out all the other wonderful suggestions first. If they do not fix the problem I'll just get a new carburetor and put it on myself. Thanks everyone for all the helpful advice. Linda On 6/30/07, Paul Asgeirsson wrote: > > Hi Linda, > > Recently I had a similar problem with my B&S lawn mowere, but it was > mostly > running rich. Took it to the lawn mower man and he said it's a simple > fix. > New carb!! He said the original cheap carbs are being eaten up with > assorted items now being used in todays gasoline. Said he: $59.95 and it > will be better than new. He was so right! I bit the bullet and now it > uses > so much less gas, I can pay for it with savings of $3.00 a gallon gas!! > > FWIW, Paul A > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Grunthaner" > To: "Spridget" > Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 9:13 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC ....lawn mower question > > > > List, > > I'm trying to trouble shoot my mower problem, I have a Briggs & Stratton > 4hp > > mower that is not idling properly, sort of hi-low idle sound. I replaced > the > > spark plug and air filter and keep thinking I should take out the > carburetor > > & clean it. I went online and got a message from a guy saying it sounded > > like the governor spring was stretched out. I'll take it apart today and > try > > and get a new spring. Now what does the governor do and look like and > can > I > > twist the spring to test out the shorter length? > > Linda > > > > 62 California Sprite "Pinky" > > www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Jul 1 11:11:51 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 12:11:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ahhhh... life in Wisco Message-ID: <000001c7bc02$ec6de510$c549af30$@com> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19527710/ Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From pythias at pacifier.com Sun Jul 1 11:31:46 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 10:31:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] E-Brake Adjustment. Message-ID: <1405198109.20070701103146@pacifier.com> Hello Spridgets, i've recently done my rear brakes.. i did all the stuff about disconnecting the E-brake, did the brake job (new shoes, cylinders) adjusted the brakes THEN hooked up the E-brake again, and for the first time in years had a good 3 or 4 click hold on the E-brake....... .... ......... all of the sudden it went loose again. sits almost straight up before grabbing... now the question. can i simply release it, (with the rear jacked up) unhook it, and hook it back up again, then adjust, or should i just crawl underneath and adjust using the the barrel/sleeve thingy? TIA -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite "the red thing" (HAN8L 49403) Out of my mind. Back in five minutes. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 1 12:02:16 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 13:02:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Morris Pickup on eBay Message-ID: <0ae301c7bc09$f6e1f700$6401a8c0@Larry> Cool Moggy pickup eBay # 170127138036 From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 1 12:29:43 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 12:29:43 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NOS Shox! In-Reply-To: References: <1899033751.20070630172151@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707011129gc3e5e25w45acb06a14eed1e0@mail.gmail.com> I was thinking I'd rather have a rebuilt pair from PPP than a set that has been sitting for 30 years. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 1 12:32:17 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 12:32:17 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] MGB Tach Troubles In-Reply-To: References: <02fd01c7bba0$355394e0$d280bc43@HP> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707011132v2eb881b2ie37c495574912cf2@mail.gmail.com> What he said. Plus, most any problem of that sort usually ends up with a bad ground or bad voltage stabiliser. LBC electrical problem? Think ground, bullet connector. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 1 12:40:30 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 12:40:30 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC...Looking for SeaDoo Info. In-Reply-To: <00c201c7bbe8$887e16c0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> References: <00c201c7bbe8$887e16c0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707011140v736da161i85f15acd57921e40@mail.gmail.com> Fuel filter first. Sounds like maybe starving for fuel at high RPMs. A lot of those motors use crankcase pressure to drive the diaphragm type fuel pump. Check for that next. Idle could be vacuum leak. Also, the "choke" is often a solenoid that squirts gas into the intake. High RPM probs could also be spark or advance. Many two strokes have a linkage that advances the spark as the throttle is opened. Check for that. You don't want to run a 2-stroke lean. If it has an oil tank and mixes the oil you may think about adding some oil to the fuel at least until you get the problems sorted out. Too much oil will make more smoke but too little oil will make damaged cylinders. 50:1 in the tank plus whatever won't hurt anything. The plugs being fouled may also point to fuel filter clogged. If the machine is adding oil and not enough fuel is getting to the carbs, you'd get the plugs fouled pretty quickly. Cheers, Derf From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun Jul 1 12:41:00 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 13:41:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC...Looking for SeaDoo Info. In-Reply-To: <00c201c7bbe8$887e16c0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> References: <00c201c7bbe8$887e16c0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> Message-ID: Hell, this is EASY!!! Sign up on this board, http://www.sbtontheweb.com/ They have different forums for the specific marques, much like here. Also, when I was tuning out the 500cc Wave Jammer this spring, I needed to adjust the high idle. Since it can't be done on the water, I got the ski rope, and tied it to a tree. Tie it to the back of the ski, out in waist deep water. Put your lanyard on correctly, just in case the rope or tree decides to give, but with my little 500, things were fine. Give it some accelerator, and start tuning. You will still need to give some final tweaks, after a run around the lake, but it at least will get you close. HTH Brad btw, you NEVER want to wind it up while on the hose, it will damage the motor. On 7/1/07, Mark wrote: > I know there is a wealth of knowledge on this list and hopefully someone can > give me some tips. My Daughter bought a 95 SeaDoo Jet Ski with a 580 > engine. It runs but seems to run out of grunt and misses at high RPM under > load. We have checked compression and it measures 150psi in both cylinders. > We replaced plugs which were fouled with a new set of NGK's as specified. > It starts and idles but will die unless you give it some gas. On the > trailer, with the garden hose attached, it runs fine; it only has a problem > under load which makes it difficult to diagnose. It has fresh gas but I > haven't found the fuel filter yet, maybe today. Any experts on the Rotax 2 > stroke engine that can tell me what a logical approach is to finding the > problem? > > Mark > Nashville > http://www.arrestmered.com > _______________________________________________ From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 1 12:50:31 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 12:50:31 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] ahhhh... life in Wisco In-Reply-To: <000001c7bc02$ec6de510$c549af30$@com> References: <000001c7bc02$ec6de510$c549af30$@com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707011150k67ddbb19v1831cdc380f27c43@mail.gmail.com> Yaaa, suure, donchano? From millerls at ado13.com Sun Jul 1 13:40:09 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 12:40:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] MGB Tach Troubles References: <02fd01c7bba0$355394e0$d280bc43@HP> <5f00d9910707011132v2eb881b2ie37c495574912cf2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <036801c7bc17$a2de3610$d280bc43@HP> Grounds are the first thing we checked. Cleaned and used silicon grease on them plus ran a new ground wire to the tach. The tach does not go through the voltage stabilizer at least on the 72 MGB GT. We must have missed a ground someplace. Will keep looking. ----- Original Message ----- From: derf To: Larry Macy Cc: Larry & Sandi Miller ; Spridget Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] MGB Tach Troubles What he said. Plus, most any problem of that sort usually ends up with a bad ground or bad voltage stabiliser. LBC electrical problem? Think ground, bullet connector. From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Sun Jul 1 15:26:39 2007 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 16:26:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 radiator flush Message-ID: <8de85a9c0707011426s18a93355o35873ef1a0fb2f55@mail.gmail.com> Next on my list is replacing all the radiator hoses on the 73 Midget and figured I might as well attempt a quick flush of the system as well while I've got it disconnected. Any tips/tricks I should know or advice you guys/gals can provide before I start this? From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 1 15:34:10 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 14:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 radiator flush In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0707011426s18a93355o35873ef1a0fb2f55@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070701213410.45445.qmail@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Jethro wrote: > Any tips/tricks I should know or advice you > guys/gals can provide > before I start this? I recently flushed out an oil cooler when I was pressed for time and didn't have the correct hose adapters available (anywhere) for the new one. Ran the hose through it for many minutes, boiled it when the wife was out for a while, then ran mineral spirits through it and shook it up, blew it out with compressed air. Little bits of crud were still coming out. I took it to a radiator shop and $20 later there was a lot of crud that came out, good as new. The intermediate steps I took did OK and would probably be fine for a radiator that is otherwise OK, but for the money, I'd just bring it in and have it done right. Ron Ron Soave "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU Sun Jul 1 16:00:29 2007 From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 18:00:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Front Caliper question. Message-ID: <18ABB2F8-45A1-40FE-87A1-CB1522FA740B@dartmouth.edu> Hi all, I am working on my front driver's side, left, caliper - it closes nicely but seems to not have enough back-flow to release properly - if I loosen the bleeder to relieve pressure it loosens up nicely enough. I bled that caliper and some pretty ugly fluid came out so I question how long it has been since the brakes were last bled. Having never experienced this before - where is the likely place which is restricting flow on just this side? The passenger side is fine. Plenty of stopping power just the one wheel binds a bit. ?? Thanks, -m From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 1 16:06:03 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 16:06:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Front Caliper question. In-Reply-To: <18ABB2F8-45A1-40FE-87A1-CB1522FA740B@dartmouth.edu> References: <18ABB2F8-45A1-40FE-87A1-CB1522FA740B@dartmouth.edu> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707011506j3df5dda7x15d2dfbd581ce4ae@mail.gmail.com> Hoses? Old, worn brake line hoses can become one way check valves. From smarc at smarc.net Sun Jul 1 16:06:20 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2007 18:06:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Front Caliper question. In-Reply-To: <18ABB2F8-45A1-40FE-87A1-CB1522FA740B@dartmouth.edu> References: <18ABB2F8-45A1-40FE-87A1-CB1522FA740B@dartmouth.edu> Message-ID: <4688255C.30405@smarc.net> Replace the hose! Marc Mark A. O'Neil wrote: > Hi all, > > I am working on my front driver's side, left, caliper - it closes > nicely but seems to not have enough back-flow to release properly - > if I loosen the bleeder to relieve pressure it loosens up nicely > enough. I bled that caliper and some pretty ugly fluid came out so I > question how long it has been since the brakes were last bled. > > Having never experienced this before - where is the likely place > which is restricting flow on just this side? The passenger side is fine. > > Plenty of stopping power just the one wheel binds a bit. > > > ?? > > Thanks, > -m > _______________________________________________ From p.herder at cox.net Sun Jul 1 16:07:34 2007 From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 17:07:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Front Caliper question. In-Reply-To: <18ABB2F8-45A1-40FE-87A1-CB1522FA740B@dartmouth.edu> References: <18ABB2F8-45A1-40FE-87A1-CB1522FA740B@dartmouth.edu> Message-ID: <000001c7bc2c$3aa8c370$affa4a50$@herder@cox.net> Sounds like the flex hose on that side is the problem. Luap -----Original Message----- Hi all, I am working on my front driver's side, left, caliper - it closes nicely but seems to not have enough back-flow to release properly - if I loosen the bleeder to relieve pressure it loosens up nicely enough. I bled that caliper and some pretty ugly fluid came out so I question how long it has been since the brakes were last bled. Having never experienced this before - where is the likely place which is restricting flow on just this side? The passenger side is fine. Plenty of stopping power just the one wheel binds a bit. ?? Thanks, -m From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU Sun Jul 1 16:15:57 2007 From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 18:15:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Front Caliper question. In-Reply-To: <000001c7bc2c$3aa8c370$affa4a50$@herder@cox.net> References: <18ABB2F8-45A1-40FE-87A1-CB1522FA740B@dartmouth.edu> <000001c7bc2c$3aa8c370$affa4a50$@herder@cox.net> Message-ID: On Jul 1, 2007, at 6:07 PM, Paul Herder wrote: > Sounds like the flex hose on that side is the problem. > > Luap Two votes for hoses! I'll order some. thanks, -m From kevin at valentinephoto.net Sun Jul 1 16:20:14 2007 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 18:20:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Front Caliper question. In-Reply-To: <18ABB2F8-45A1-40FE-87A1-CB1522FA740B@dartmouth.edu> References: <18ABB2F8-45A1-40FE-87A1-CB1522FA740B@dartmouth.edu> Message-ID: Mark, The hoses (to the caliper) swell inside when they get old. If you are in doubt of their age, it's not worth the risk. Eventually it will close up enough to lock the caliper up completely. They may look perfectly good on the outside. Replace all three! 2 (at the calipers) in the front and one in the rear. Kevin V. On Jul 1, 2007, at 6:00 PM, Mark A. O'Neil wrote: > > Having never experienced this before - where is the likely place > which is restricting flow on just this side? The passenger side is > fine. From dmg at bossig.com Sun Jul 1 17:36:09 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (dmg at bossig.com) Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2007 16:36:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Dizzy question... Message-ID: <4687D7F9.699.1F7B027@dmg.bossig.com> Can I replace the top entry distributor cap on the Mallory Dual-point with a Lucas 25D4 side entry cap?? And will it work OK?? If not, does Mallory have a side entry cap?? I couldn't find any on the web.. The top entry HT lead is being grooved by a seam on the inside fender just below the ignitial coil... BTW "Moggy" in the UK used to refer to the Morgans'.... Dave G. From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Sun Jul 1 18:30:23 2007 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 17:30:23 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Dizzy question... Message-ID: <392801c7bc40$2dff8dc0$2dca010a@mail2world.com> The Mallory I have is larger in diameter than the lucas dizzy, so I suspect not... -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: dmg at bossig.com [dmg at bossig.com] Sent: 7/1/2007 7:36:09 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Dizzy question... Can I replace the top entry distributor cap on the Mallory Dual-point with a Lucas 25D4 side entry cap?? And will it work OK?? If not, does Mallory have a side entry cap?? I couldn't find any on the web.. The top entry HT lead is being grooved by a seam on the inside fender just below the ignitial coil... BTW "Moggy" in the UK used to refer to the Morgans'.... Dave G. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 1 18:38:42 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 18:38:42 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Dizzy question... In-Reply-To: <4687D7F9.699.1F7B027@dmg.bossig.com> References: <4687D7F9.699.1F7B027@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707011738n4d8f1fa0t5df1e13f9e5ca5d@mail.gmail.com> Would a 90 degree wire boot help? From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jul 1 18:53:02 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2007 20:53:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] seal retainer install? In-Reply-To: <4687B3F1.9060801@smarc.net> References: <4687B3F1.9060801@smarc.net> Message-ID: <46884C6E.7010603@comcast.net> I have filed the edges with a slight bevel to get those retainers back in. And when I mess up the new one, I stick the old one back in and it seems to work. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jul 1 18:59:25 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2007 20:59:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Front Caliper question. In-Reply-To: <18ABB2F8-45A1-40FE-87A1-CB1522FA740B@dartmouth.edu> References: <18ABB2F8-45A1-40FE-87A1-CB1522FA740B@dartmouth.edu> Message-ID: <46884DED.9000203@comcast.net> Replace the hose, but do all 3 hoses. If one is bad, the rest are not far behind. This should be a manditory -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Sun Jul 1 01:53:12 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 00:53:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC ....lawn mower question References: <205cef430706300913v1cae2261t5edd9163fab1d21b@mail.gmail.com> <000701c7bb8d$b4b82ba0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <205cef430707010839y138c5ed3hfc1e39d7666a3253@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <009b01c7bbb4$e0593ac0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Hi Linda, Putting on the carb yourself ain't worth the hassle and small savings. Let the engine guy do it, and it becomes guaranteed work then. FWIW, Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Grunthaner To: Paul Asgeirsson Cc: Spridget Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 8:39 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Not LBC ....lawn mower question Paul, That sounds like the easiest least expensive long term fix for me although before I get to that step I'm going to go and cut the lawn (if she makes it) and then I'll remove the carburetor and try out all the other wonderful suggestions first. If they do not fix the problem I'll just get a new carburetor and put it on myself. Thanks everyone for all the helpful advice. Linda On 6/30/07, Paul Asgeirsson wrote: Hi Linda, Recently I had a similar problem with my B&S lawn mowere, but it was mostly running rich. Took it to the lawn mower man and he said it's a simple fix. New carb!! He said the original cheap carbs are being eaten up with assorted items now being used in todays gasoline. Said he: $59.95 and it will be better than new. He was so right! I bit the bullet and now it uses so much less gas, I can pay for it with savings of $3.00 a gallon gas!! FWIW, Paul A From smarc at smarc.net Sun Jul 1 20:00:39 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2007 22:00:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Grease in Steering rack... Message-ID: <46885C47.80508@smarc.net> More on the tight steering rack issue - Last time I worked on this problem, I had disconnected the tie rod ends from the steering arms to see if that was making the steering bind. It wasn't. I had to remove the radiator to gain access to the nut on the top left of the rack. I loosened the nut up to see if the rack would loosen up. It didn't. I pulled the boots, and found grease. Not a lot, but I can tell it has been greased. Pulling the small bolt out of the nut there was a dollop of grease on it. My assumption is there is supposed to be 90 weight gear oil in there. I really really really do not want to remove the rack - is it possible to clean it up without removal? If thats not possible or practical, what should I clean it with? And I thought I was going to do a simple brake job and have it on the road... -- Marc From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 1 20:02:31 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 19:02:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] MORe: Front Caliper question. In-Reply-To: <46884DED.9000203@comcast.net> Message-ID: <980135.2443.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Frank Clarici wrote: > Replace the hose, but do all 3 hoses. > If one is bad, the rest are not far behind. > This should be a manditory While we're at it, my drum brake Bugeye is pulling hard (HARD) to the right upon braking. Shoes/drums/wheel cyl are all good, they're adjusted properly. I'm certain it's all in the front wheels. A minor teardown and inspection of the front end indicates some worn bushings which are on order. Could the hose be causing this as well? I'll change them anyway, but I wouldn't think it would be the cause when brakes are applied. Thoughts? Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 1 20:06:10 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 19:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] MORe: Front Caliper question. In-Reply-To: <980135.2443.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <593315.41578.qm@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Ron Soave wrote: > While we're at it, my drum brake Bugeye is pulling > hard (HARD) to the right upon braking. Not that it matters, but make that "left". The Alfa pulls to the right. The parts aren't interchangeable, I already thought of that. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jul 1 20:10:17 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 21:10:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] MORe: Front Caliper question. In-Reply-To: <593315.41578.qm@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <980135.2443.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <593315.41578.qm@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0707011910j2f64010bo49f21389162d680b@mail.gmail.com> Ron... Don't turn the wheel when you brake..... ;-) Cheers!! Jim On 7/1/07, Ron Soave wrote: > --- Ron Soave wrote: > > While we're at it, my drum brake Bugeye is pulling > > hard (HARD) to the right upon braking. > > Not that it matters, but make that "left". The Alfa > pulls to the right. The parts aren't interchangeable, > I already thought of that. > > Ron > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________Ready for the edge of your seat? > Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. > http://tv.yahoo.com/ > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Sun Jul 1 20:14:25 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 21:14:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] MORe: Front Caliper question. References: <593315.41578.qm@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <033601c7bc4e$b6b366b0$6501a8c0@actualshop> "perish" the thought, Ron!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 1 20:20:28 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 20:20:28 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] MORe: Front Caliper question. In-Reply-To: <980135.2443.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <46884DED.9000203@comcast.net> <980135.2443.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707011920y53121e37jd2a9ece0abf9602d@mail.gmail.com> Yes, a bad hose can act like a check valve or just restrict the fluid flow. If it pulls to the right then your left hose is probably bad. Switch the hoses and see if it pulls to the left? LOL. If the hoses aren't relatively new, replace them. From dmg at bossig.com Sun Jul 1 20:25:01 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (dmg at bossig.com) Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:25:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Dizzy question... In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707011738n4d8f1fa0t5df1e13f9e5ca5d@mail.gmail.com> References: <4687D7F9.699.1F7B027@dmg.bossig.com>, <5f00d9910707011738n4d8f1fa0t5df1e13f9e5ca5d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4687FF8D.16634.2924BBE@dmg.bossig.com> On 1 Jul 2007 at 18:38, derf wrote: >> Would a 90 degree wire boot help? Derf, Yes it would - just as long as it fits on the distributor. The coil HT connection is in the clear. The right angle boots I saw at Shucks, NAPA, etc would not fit on the dizzy... :-)) Can you recommend a right angle boot that would fit the dizzy? GM? Ford? Or if you have one you can send me, I will gladly pay the costs.... (Almost sounds like Popeye's Wimpie ) Dave G. From dmg at bossig.com Sun Jul 1 20:26:52 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (dmg at bossig.com) Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:26:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] MORe: Front Caliper question. In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707011920y53121e37jd2a9ece0abf9602d@mail.gmail.com> References: <46884DED.9000203@comcast.net>, <980135.2443.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <5f00d9910707011920y53121e37jd2a9ece0abf9602d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4687FFFC.16952.293FC8B@dmg.bossig.com> On 1 Jul 2007 at 20:20, derf wrote: >> If the hoses aren't relatively new, replace them. And if you can afford it, replace both hoses with the braided wire covered type... Dave G. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 1 20:34:08 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 20:34:08 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Dizzy question... In-Reply-To: <4687FF8D.16634.2924BBE@dmg.bossig.com> References: <4687D7F9.699.1F7B027@dmg.bossig.com> <5f00d9910707011738n4d8f1fa0t5df1e13f9e5ca5d@mail.gmail.com> <4687FF8D.16634.2924BBE@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707011934s6f4e6e8cw61fefdebf70a2de8@mail.gmail.com> Accel part #170047 Autozone should be able to get it. Can you recommend a right angle boot that would fit the dizzy? GM? Ford? > Or if you have one you can send me, I will gladly pay the costs.... From smarc at smarc.net Sun Jul 1 20:36:51 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2007 22:36:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] rusted oil pan Message-ID: <468864C3.3020701@smarc.net> I have an oil leak which I thought was a gasket, but I'm not so sure now. Looks like it may be coming from a very rusty spot on the oil pan. Can the oil pan be changed in situ on a 1275? Doesn't quite look like it... -- Marc From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 1 20:40:20 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 20:40:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Dizzy question... In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707011934s6f4e6e8cw61fefdebf70a2de8@mail.gmail.com> References: <4687D7F9.699.1F7B027@dmg.bossig.com> <5f00d9910707011738n4d8f1fa0t5df1e13f9e5ca5d@mail.gmail.com> <4687FF8D.16634.2924BBE@dmg.bossig.com> <5f00d9910707011934s6f4e6e8cw61fefdebf70a2de8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707011940i4577ae45k527a3859060aa5fc@mail.gmail.com> Jegs has that part number for about $20, kinda pricey to me. Just call Peter C. or Ed or Paul and tell them you want something that looks like this: http://www.jegs.com/images/photos/100/110/110-170047.jpg I would think the boot should cost about $1.50 even with a stupendous markup. Back in the day you could get kits with a spool of plug wire and a bag full of boots and terminals. I guess you can't get that at Autozone anymore. If I needed just one I'd just go to the nearby U-Pull-It and grab one. They usually give me nuts, bolts, and small parts like that for free. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 1 20:42:48 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 20:42:48 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] rusted oil pan In-Reply-To: <468864C3.3020701@smarc.net> References: <468864C3.3020701@smarc.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707011942s344a5ee7mcae7a8054a49cd17@mail.gmail.com> I'll bet Frank could do it in an hour. Can the oil pan be changed in situ on a 1275? Doesn't quite look like it... From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 1 20:43:03 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 19:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] rusted oil pan In-Reply-To: <468864C3.3020701@smarc.net> Message-ID: <775775.54336.qm@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Marc wrote: > Can the oil pan be changed in situ on a 1275? > Doesn't quite look like it... Yes, it's actually pretty easy. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ From dmg at bossig.com Sun Jul 1 20:43:08 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (dmg at bossig.com) Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:43:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] rusted oil pan In-Reply-To: <468864C3.3020701@smarc.net> References: <468864C3.3020701@smarc.net> Message-ID: <468803CC.2559.2A2E1A7@dmg.bossig.com> I just *KNEW* there was a good reason to let my engine keep on weeping oil ;^D Dave On 1 Jul 2007 at 22:36, Marc wrote: >> I have an oil leak which I thought was a gasket, but I'm not so sure >> now. Looks like it may be coming from a very rusty spot on the oil pan. From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 1 20:45:34 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 19:45:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] rusted oil pan In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707011942s344a5ee7mcae7a8054a49cd17@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <174823.85037.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- derf wrote: > I'll bet Frank could do it in an hour. If he stopped to watch a Sopranos episode. Use a cordless drill, and it's maybe 1/2 hour. I've, unfortunately, had lots of practice. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC From mconn2 at bright.net Sun Jul 1 20:47:13 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 22:47:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Cadillac Eldorado v. AN5 Message-ID: <001801c7bc53$4c5cdc10$4a34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> List, The List welcomes questions concerning cars other spridgets. Here's one! I have a 1990 Cadillac Eldorado. Never a thing goes wrong with it save for the air conditioning. I think the whole system has now been replaced, and up-dated to take the new gas. The Cadillac Dealer checked it out last Thursday. Everything working fine: correct weight of gas in system etc.. I got about 70 miles, and the usual message came up telling me the system was low on refrigerant, and that the compressor had been switched off. The car goes back to the dealer next week for another check. Any ideas. (Please, don't tell me it's as easy as putting an original steering back on a AN5.) Michael From dmg at bossig.com Sun Jul 1 20:48:19 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (dmg at bossig.com) Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:48:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Dizzy question... In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707011940i4577ae45k527a3859060aa5fc@mail.gmail.com> References: <4687D7F9.699.1F7B027@dmg.bossig.com>, <5f00d9910707011934s6f4e6e8cw61fefdebf70a2de8@mail.gmail.com>, <5f00d9910707011940i4577ae45k527a3859060aa5fc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46880503.12004.2A79DB0@dmg.bossig.com> Derf, There isn't an Autozone within 250 miles of here :-( But you did give me a great idea... I'll take the dizzy cap down to NAPA and see if they can find me a right angle boot that'll fit... The carbon pickup in the center of the cap is chipped on one side, but I don't think that will give me any problems... Thanks for the advice and the part numbers... much appreciated :-) Dave G. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 1 20:51:44 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 20:51:44 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cadillac Eldorado v. AN5 In-Reply-To: <001801c7bc53$4c5cdc10$4a34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> References: <001801c7bc53$4c5cdc10$4a34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707011951p28032cb2j2513b850ad91b74a@mail.gmail.com> Leak? Bad pressure sensor switch? Old Freon works better, but costs more. From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jul 1 20:50:57 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2007 22:50:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Grease in Steering rack... In-Reply-To: <46885C47.80508@smarc.net> References: <46885C47.80508@smarc.net> Message-ID: <46886811.3000809@comcast.net> I have been using grease in my racks since 1972. I never had a problem. Yeah I know the book says 90 wt. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jul 1 20:54:59 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2007 22:54:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] rusted oil pan In-Reply-To: <174823.85037.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <174823.85037.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46886903.3070102@comcast.net> Ron Soave wrote: > --- derf wrote: > >> I'll bet Frank could do it in an hour. > > If he stopped to watch a Sopranos episode. Use a > cordless drill, and it's maybe 1/2 hour. I've, > unfortunately, had lots of practice. You tell em Ron. What, 14 bolts on the pan, all 7/16 and yes I do have the 7/16" socket with the adaptor for my cordless drill. :) I use if for garage door assemblys and Spridget oil pans. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From smarc at smarc.net Sun Jul 1 20:57:29 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2007 22:57:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] rusted oil pan In-Reply-To: <46886903.3070102@comcast.net> References: <174823.85037.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <46886903.3070102@comcast.net> Message-ID: <46886999.5020901@smarc.net> Well, thats reassuring! I'll have to scope it out further. Sure am wishing for a four post lift.... Marc Frank Clarici wrote: Ron Soave wrote: --- derf wrote: I'll bet Frank could do it in an hour. If he stopped to watch a Sopranos episode. Use a cordless drill, and it's maybe 1/2 hour. I've, unfortunately, had lots of practice. You tell em Ron. What, 14 bolts on the pan, all 7/16 and yes I do have the 7/16" socket with the adaptor for my cordless drill. :) I use if for garage door assemblys and Spridget oil pans. From kevin at valentinephoto.net Sun Jul 1 21:00:14 2007 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 23:00:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] rusted oil pan In-Reply-To: <468864C3.3020701@smarc.net> References: <468864C3.3020701@smarc.net> Message-ID: <29236A78-0D13-4F0A-91EC-FC4AA33DBEE2@valentinephoto.net> On Jul 1, 2007, at 10:36 PM, Marc wrote: > I have an oil leak which I thought was a gasket, but I'm not so sure > now. Looks like it may be coming from a very rusty spot on the oil > pan. > Can the oil pan be changed in situ on a 1275? Doesn't quite look > like it... Marc, Yes, it's fairly easy. (The rod bearings can be changed too ;) Make certain the car is supported VERY well. Kevin V. From mconn2 at bright.net Sun Jul 1 21:03:04 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 23:03:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Cadillac Eldorado v. AN5 References: <001801c7bc53$4c5cdc10$4a34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <5f00d9910707011951p28032cb2j2513b850ad91b74a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <003b01c7bc55$82dbbf70$4a34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Derf, Leaks are where the search started a year or so back. The system has been checked for leaks each time the car's been back in the shop. Same with pressure sensor switches. What's been needed has been replaced (the compressor has been changed twice, various sensor switches more than once and the metal lines). The system has been modified to take the new gas. (I didn't think the old stuff was available any more.) Is there any thing else you can think off? Or can you explain why the various new parts could be breaking down so quickly. Could it be the program in the computer has gone wrong, and keeps receiving the wrong message? Cadillac dealers are expensive, ain't they. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: derf To: Michael Conn Cc: spridgets Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 10:51 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cadillac Eldorado v. AN5 Leak? Bad pressure sensor switch? Old Freon works better, but costs more. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 1 21:06:54 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 21:06:54 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Dizzy question... In-Reply-To: <46880503.12004.2A79DB0@dmg.bossig.com> References: <4687D7F9.699.1F7B027@dmg.bossig.com> <5f00d9910707011934s6f4e6e8cw61fefdebf70a2de8@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910707011940i4577ae45k527a3859060aa5fc@mail.gmail.com> <46880503.12004.2A79DB0@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707012006s44fb0d4rfe16d7d6eee6e01e@mail.gmail.com> OK, here's the NAPA part number: BEL701001 Spark Plug Wire Coil Lead IRS (7MM) $5 and the pic shows both straight and 90 boots. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 1 21:11:28 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 21:11:28 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cadillac Eldorado v. AN5 In-Reply-To: <003b01c7bc55$82dbbf70$4a34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> References: <001801c7bc53$4c5cdc10$4a34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <5f00d9910707011951p28032cb2j2513b850ad91b74a@mail.gmail.com> <003b01c7bc55$82dbbf70$4a34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707012011m6d2ce950ma51d66b2b7af4d17@mail.gmail.com> Well, expensive or not, you paid them to fix something and they didn't, yet. I would ask for some results. From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Sun Jul 1 21:16:50 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 22:16:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cadillac Eldorado v. AN5 References: <001801c7bc53$4c5cdc10$4a34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757><5f00d9910707011951p28032cb2j2513b850ad91b74a@mail.gmail.com> <003b01c7bc55$82dbbf70$4a34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <049801c7bc57$6eba0590$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> Bet it does NOT like the 134, Michael. <> Yep. I would find (seek out assistence) a REAL machanic at a small local shop or a speciality AC shop. Caddy "mechanics" are NOT ones. They are 'puter geeks and part changers!! Ed From dmg at bossig.com Sun Jul 1 21:28:39 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (dmg at bossig.com) Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2007 20:28:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Dizzy question... In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707012006s44fb0d4rfe16d7d6eee6e01e@mail.gmail.com> References: <4687D7F9.699.1F7B027@dmg.bossig.com>, <46880503.12004.2A79DB0@dmg.bossig.com>, <5f00d9910707012006s44fb0d4rfe16d7d6eee6e01e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46880E77.22786.2CC8CB4@dmg.bossig.com> Derf, Thank you very much.. I'll be in their shop tomorrow afternoon.. Here's what got me onto this... I wanted to replace the dizzy clamping bolt. The DPO has used a coach bolt and washers and I had jut recieved the right bolt/nut combo from Peter at nosimports. Removing the old bolt was a sod.... the round head kept turning... So I had to remove the air ducting hose and the dizzy cap and leads to make more room to get in there . I go to fit the good square head nut and bolt and .... whang!... the bolt slips out of my greasyfingers and dissappears somewhere in the engine compartment...!! OK..I think "don't panic - no problem" .. it dropped down somewhere, I just have to find it... It's not on the ground, and it's not on the cross member or the sub-chassis frame, not in the A-frame, it's not jammed between the starter and the block... where the heck can it be... Now I can start panicking! I'm just about to pull the starter when the flashlight glints off of something... it's the bolt!! And where was it?? It bounced UP not down!! It was jammed between the ignition coil and the splash guard.. After finally getting it in place, I was re-connecting the leads from the dizzy when I noticed the HT lead had been rubbed almost through to the wire core by the body seam... That's when I washed my hands and sent the email... So, dropping the bolt was a good thing, because when, at some time in the future, the Sprite suddenly quit on me, that's a problem I may not have found, in the dark, on a rainy night!! (Isn't that when all Lucas faults occur??) Dave G On 1 Jul 2007 at 21:06, derf wrote: >> OK, here's the NAPA part number: BEL701001 Spark Plug Wire Coil Lead IRS (7MM) >> $5 and the pic shows both straight and 90 boots. From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 1 21:39:32 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 20:39:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Cadillac Eldorado v. AN5 In-Reply-To: <049801c7bc57$6eba0590$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <18585.72424.qm@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- WJHS1960 wrote: > Bet it does NOT like the 134, Michael. Back-in-the-day, I did a lot of work on R-134a replacement after the 1989 Montreal Protocol came out, before 134a was commercially available. 134a was not compatible with the compressor shaft seals that were used for R-12. I was always amazed that the "conversion kits" often just consisted of schrader valve adapters! If you've got a really good shop, another trick we used to use on aircraft for finding particularly sneaky leaks is to fill the system with Helium and use a Helium sniffer to find them. Helium is easier to sniff than refrigerant, although you may get some leaks with He that you won't have with refrigerant. The dye stuff is OK, but not always easy to see on a car. Check for a faulty (intermittent) relief valve on the condenser as well. If it's not really low on charge and the evaporator isn't icing, find the switch and stick a paperclip in it! G'luck, Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ From pilotrob at webtv.net Mon Jul 2 03:34:53 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 09:34:53 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Grease in Steering rack... Message-ID: MY PO'd '67 came with grease in the rack. OK is summer but very stiff in winter. We simply "oiled" it and it loosened right up for easier movement at all times. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) -----Original Message----- From: Marc Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2007 10:00 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Grease in Steering rack... More on the tight steering rack issue - Last time I worked on this problem, I had disconnected the tie rod ends from the steering arms to see if that was making the steering bind. It wasn't. I had to remove the radiator to gain access to the nut on the top left of the rack. I loosened the nut up to see if the rack would loosen up. It didn't. I pulled the boots, and found grease. Not a lot, but I can tell it has been greased. Pulling the small bolt out of the nut there was a dollop of grease on it. My assumption is there is supposed to be 90 weight gear oil in there. I really really really do not want to remove the rack - is it possible to clean it up without removal? If thats not possible or practical, what should I clean it with? And I thought I was going to do a simple brake job and have it on the road... -- Marc _______________________________________________ pilotrob at webtv.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kramer.allen at comcast.net Mon Jul 2 05:40:26 2007 From: kramer.allen at comcast.net (kramer.allen at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 11:40:26 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] At Speed Mis-Fire Message-ID: <070220071140.12580.4688E42A000A2B60000031242207020953020A04040ED29D0A030E9D05@comcast.net> I need help trouble shooting a problem that has occurred with my 948 cc engine. I'm not sure if I am experiencing an ignition problem or a fuel problem. When crusining at a steady speed a mis occurs. However, when I am accelerating there is no mis. Any suggestions? Thank you, Allen From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jul 2 05:53:43 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 06:53:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Audiovox CCS-100 Cruise Control Info Message-ID: <002301c7bc9f$a3c42070$0401a8c0@midget> For those of you who asked about using the CCS-100 cruise control, I have now done a longer and faster test and found that the vacuum cannister is a necessity for my 1275 with Kent 266 cam at higher speeds. It works fine without it up to 65 or so (with 5-speed, so about 3200rpm), but in the 70s (3500rpm and up) it lacks the motive power to accelerate. It successfully holds the accelerator where it is, but the speed drops as you go up "hills" (any kind of a rise). Technically speaking, this will give you better gas mileage on those trips, but it can be irritating while trying to flow with light traffic. Re-connecting the cannister resulted in expected functionality at least up to 82mph (4100rpm). I didn't figure the cops would consider my scientific research to be an adequate excuse for higher speeds... David Lieb From inaverysmallroom at hotmail.com Mon Jul 2 06:36:09 2007 From: inaverysmallroom at hotmail.com (Dale Gleason) Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 07:36:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] midget in NC for sale Message-ID: http://raleigh.craigslist.org/car/340780103.html _________________________________________________________________ Make every IM count. Download Messenger and join the im Initiative now. Its free. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_June07 From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jul 2 06:46:07 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 06:46:07 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] At Speed Mis-Fire In-Reply-To: <070220071140.12580.4688E42A000A2B60000031242207020953020A04040ED29D0A030E9D05@comcast.net> References: <070220071140.12580.4688E42A000A2B60000031242207020953020A04040ED29D0A030E9D05@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707020546o77e32481sa15391e37b478dfd@mail.gmail.com> Check the dashpot oil. You could have oscillating carb pistons. Is the miss the same at all RPM levels? Cheers, Derf From jlaird237 at cox.net Mon Jul 2 07:06:28 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 08:06:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Grease in Steering rack... References: <46885C47.80508@smarc.net> Message-ID: <001c01c7bca9$cdb20780$6401a8c0@personal> Sure, clean all the grease out as best you can and add 90 wieght, you should be good to go. Don't need to take it apart further if it operates ok. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 9:00 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Grease in Steering rack... > More on the tight steering rack issue - Last time I worked on this > problem, I had disconnected the tie rod ends from the steering arms to > see if that was making the steering bind. It wasn't. > > I had to remove the radiator to gain access to the nut on the top left > of the rack. I loosened the nut up to see if the rack would loosen up. > It didn't. > > I pulled the boots, and found grease. Not a lot, but I can tell it has > been greased. Pulling the small bolt out of the nut there was a dollop > of grease on it. My assumption is there is supposed to be 90 weight gear > oil in there. I really really really do not want to remove the rack - is > it possible to clean it up without removal? If thats not possible or > practical, what should I clean it with? > > And I thought I was going to do a simple brake job and have it on the > road... > > -- > Marc > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/880 - Release Date: 6/29/2007 > 2:15 PM From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Mon Jul 2 07:13:45 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 08:13:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ahhhh... life in Wisco In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707011150k67ddbb19v1831cdc380f27c43@mail.gmail.com> References: <000001c7bc02$ec6de510$c549af30$@com> <5f00d9910707011150k67ddbb19v1831cdc380f27c43@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0707020613h3486092crbca721577b3648a3@mail.gmail.com> That man appears to be a monumental cheese carving. OOps, I mean, "Severin, shouldn't you be working on your lap times instead of carving cheese mount rushmores?" On 7/1/07, derf wrote: > Yaaa, suure, donchano? -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jul 2 07:51:01 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 08:51:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Grease in Steering rack... References: <46885C47.80508@smarc.net> <001c01c7bca9$cdb20780$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: <000701c7bcb0$07182f80$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Sure, clean all the grease out as best you can and add 90 wieght, you > should > be good to go. Don't need to take it apart further if it operates ok. Uhh, hang on a bit. What year is your car, Marc? Around 1971 (don't want to bother waiting to look at Horler), they went to a Triumph rack (Spitty?) that DOES take grease. The usual rule of thumb is "If it has a grease fitting, it wants oil, if it doesn't have a grease fitting, grease it." Since Marc referred to removing a "bolt", it might well be the one that gets greased. David Lieb From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jul 2 07:53:21 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 08:53:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Window Treatments Message-ID: <000d01c7bcb0$5a5b0910$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> The results of the poll of Miata-owning males are in. Flounder appears to be the only male I know who has ever heard the phrase "window treatment" I guess it is Bugeye racers whose masculinity should be considered questionable. Not that there is anything wrong with that... David Lieb 1972 RWA Midget From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jul 2 08:02:27 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 09:02:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Dizzy question... References: <4687D7F9.699.1F7B027@dmg.bossig.com><5f00d9910707011738n4d8f1fa0t5df1e13f9e5ca5d@mail.gmail.com><4687FF8D.16634.2924BBE@dmg.bossig.com> <5f00d9910707011934s6f4e6e8cw61fefdebf70a2de8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001d01c7bcb1$a04fb500$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Accel part #170047 > Autozone should be able to get it. Friends do NOT send friends to Autozone. Chances are they would cross-reference that number to a Deutsch part and your car would never run right again!!! I think I have finally been burned enough times to learn my lesson, but I wound up with my refund going onto a gift card... I don't want to go back, who wants an autozone card with about $5 on it? I like the people, I like the general store policies and prices, but any part there that is not branded or not a brand you have seen anywhere else should be avoided like the plague! Just my humble opinion based on my experiences, YMMV. David Lieb From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Mon Jul 2 08:04:58 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 09:04:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Dizzy question... In-Reply-To: <001d01c7bcb1$a04fb500$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <4687D7F9.699.1F7B027@dmg.bossig.com> <5f00d9910707011738n4d8f1fa0t5df1e13f9e5ca5d@mail.gmail.com> <4687FF8D.16634.2924BBE@dmg.bossig.com> <5f00d9910707011934s6f4e6e8cw61fefdebf70a2de8@mail.gmail.com> <001d01c7bcb1$a04fb500$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0707020704h7fa5e31p51818efff059aaae@mail.gmail.com> i was surprised to see durolast advertising on TV. They are like the ultimate generic brand. It would be like seeing an exciting Flavorite commercial for canned corner. On 7/2/07, David Lieb wrote: > > Accel part #170047 > > Autozone should be able to get it. > > Friends do NOT send friends to Autozone. Chances > are they would cross-reference that number to a > Deutsch part and your car would never run right again!!! > > I think I have finally been burned enough times to > learn my lesson, but I wound up with my refund going > onto a gift card... I don't want to go back, who wants > an autozone card with about $5 on it? I like the people, > I like the general store policies and prices, but any > part there that is not branded or not a brand you > have seen anywhere else should be avoided like the > plague! Just my humble opinion based on my > experiences, YMMV. > David Lieb > _______________________________________________ > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 From dwoerpel at wi.net Mon Jul 2 08:47:35 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 09:47:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Window Treatments In-Reply-To: <000d01c7bcb0$5a5b0910$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <000d01c7bcb0$5a5b0910$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <46891007.3010808@wi.net> OK, You guys can handle this one, right!!??? ;-) I'm goin' on vacation! Go for it! Dave 59 :{) David Lieb wrote: > The results of the poll of Miata-owning males are in. > Flounder appears to be the only male I know who > has ever heard the phrase "window treatment" I > guess it is Bugeye racers whose masculinity should > be considered questionable. Not that there is > anything wrong with that... > David Lieb > 1972 RWA Midget From jlaird237 at cox.net Mon Jul 2 10:25:36 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 11:25:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Dizzy question... References: <4687D7F9.699.1F7B027@dmg.bossig.com><5f00d9910707011738n4d8f1fa0t5df1e13f9e5ca5d@mail.gmail.com><4687FF8D.16634.2924BBE@dmg.bossig.com><5f00d9910707011934s6f4e6e8cw61fefdebf70a2de8@mail.gmail.com> <001d01c7bcb1$a04fb500$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <002601c7bcc5$9f33cda0$6401a8c0@personal> Only use the place for stuff not parts. Use the name as a generic. Go with what ever is in your neighborhood. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridget List" Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] LBC Dizzy question... >> Accel part #170047 >> Autozone should be able to get it. > > Friends do NOT send friends to Autozone. Chances > are they would cross-reference that number to a > Deutsch part and your car would never run right again!!! > > I think I have finally been burned enough times to > learn my lesson, but I wound up with my refund going > onto a gift card... I don't want to go back, who wants > an autozone card with about $5 on it? I like the people, > I like the general store policies and prices, but any > part there that is not branded or not a brand you > have seen anywhere else should be avoided like the > plague! Just my humble opinion based on my > experiences, YMMV. > David Lieb > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/880 - Release Date: 6/29/2007 > 2:15 PM From jlaird237 at cox.net Mon Jul 2 10:27:03 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 11:27:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Grease in Steering rack... References: <46885C47.80508@smarc.net><001c01c7bca9$cdb20780$6401a8c0@personal> <000701c7bcb0$07182f80$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <002f01c7bcc5$d2e68390$6401a8c0@personal> Oh shucks, forgot about that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridget List" Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 8:51 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Grease in Steering rack... >> Sure, clean all the grease out as best you can and add 90 wieght, you >> should >> be good to go. Don't need to take it apart further if it operates ok. > > Uhh, hang on a bit. What year is your car, Marc? Around 1971 (don't > want to bother waiting to look at Horler), they went to a Triumph > rack (Spitty?) that DOES take grease. The usual rule of thumb is > "If it has a grease fitting, it wants oil, if it doesn't have a grease > fitting, > grease it." Since Marc referred to removing a "bolt", it might well be > the one that gets greased. > David Lieb > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/880 - Release Date: 6/29/2007 > 2:15 PM From smarc at smarc.net Mon Jul 2 10:34:31 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 12:34:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Grease in Steering rack... In-Reply-To: <002f01c7bcc5$d2e68390$6401a8c0@personal> References: <46885C47.80508@smarc.net><001c01c7bca9$cdb20780$6401a8c0@personal> <000701c7bcb0$07182f80$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <002f01c7bcc5$d2e68390$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: <46892917.5050907@smarc.net> So, should I screw in a grease fitting and crank it full of grease? Is there some way to verify what type of rack I have on my 73 midge? Another thought occurs - does the steering column need lubrication? Maybe thats whats tight? I have the car up on stands, the tie rod ends are disconnected. Turning the steering wheel requires more force than I think it should. My frame of reference is my MGB LE. On the MGB, same situation, I could push or pull on the tie rod end and the wheel would spin from lock to lock. On the midget, I can't budge the rack in that manner... Marc Jack Laird wrote: > Oh shucks, forgot about that. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Lieb" > To: "Spridget List" > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 8:51 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Grease in Steering rack... > > > >>> Sure, clean all the grease out as best you can and add 90 wieght, you >>> should >>> be good to go. Don't need to take it apart further if it operates ok. >>> >> Uhh, hang on a bit. What year is your car, Marc? Around 1971 (don't >> want to bother waiting to look at Horler), they went to a Triumph >> rack (Spitty?) that DOES take grease. The usual rule of thumb is >> "If it has a grease fitting, it wants oil, if it doesn't have a grease >> fitting, >> grease it." Since Marc referred to removing a "bolt", it might well be >> the one that gets greased. >> David Lieb From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jul 2 10:40:02 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 10:40:02 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Grease in Steering rack... In-Reply-To: <46892917.5050907@smarc.net> References: <46885C47.80508@smarc.net> <001c01c7bca9$cdb20780$6401a8c0@personal> <000701c7bcb0$07182f80$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <002f01c7bcc5$d2e68390$6401a8c0@personal> <46892917.5050907@smarc.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707020940x2fd80598tcf8bc9d398284c20@mail.gmail.com> 73 should have the Spit rack. I don't know if you should be able to move the rack by pushing on the rod ends. But, the steering wheel should turn easily with the rod ends disconnected or with the front tires off the ground and everything connected. I'd use that as a goal. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jul 2 10:42:59 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 10:42:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Grease in Steering rack... In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707020940x2fd80598tcf8bc9d398284c20@mail.gmail.com> References: <46885C47.80508@smarc.net> <001c01c7bca9$cdb20780$6401a8c0@personal> <000701c7bcb0$07182f80$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <002f01c7bcc5$d2e68390$6401a8c0@personal> <46892917.5050907@smarc.net> <5f00d9910707020940x2fd80598tcf8bc9d398284c20@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707020942v551d9ea5g4337005377bf582b@mail.gmail.com> Correction to my previous post. Spit racks were used starting in 1972. If your car was made after that, then you should have the spit rack. If it was made before that and titled in 73, it could have the older rack. The older rack is more desirable and more robust. Cheers, Derf From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jul 2 11:39:23 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 12:39:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Grease in Steering rack... References: <46885C47.80508@smarc.net><001c01c7bca9$cdb20780$6401a8c0@personal><000701c7bcb0$07182f80$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov><002f01c7bcc5$d2e68390$6401a8c0@personal> <46892917.5050907@smarc.net><5f00d9910707020940x2fd80598tcf8bc9d398284c20@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910707020942v551d9ea5g4337005377bf582b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <007701c7bccf$edf30f50$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Spit racks were used starting in 1972. If your car was made after > that, then you should have the spit rack. If it was made before that > and titled in 73, it could have the older rack. The older rack is > more desirable and more robust. I have never had a car with the Morris rack, so my opinion is flawed ;-). I understand that the Morris rack is a quicker ratio, therefore more desirable, but I have no complaints about the performance or robustness of the Spitty rack. Introducing grease into the rack is not fun. I wish they had used a zerk. The threads of that bolt seem to be quite similar to those on a grease gun, but you don't get a straight shot at them. I suppose you could drill and tap the bolt for a grease fitting... David Lieb From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jul 2 11:48:01 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 11:48:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Grease in Steering rack... In-Reply-To: <007701c7bccf$edf30f50$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <46885C47.80508@smarc.net> <001c01c7bca9$cdb20780$6401a8c0@personal> <000701c7bcb0$07182f80$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <002f01c7bcc5$d2e68390$6401a8c0@personal> <46892917.5050907@smarc.net> <5f00d9910707020940x2fd80598tcf8bc9d398284c20@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910707020942v551d9ea5g4337005377bf582b@mail.gmail.com> <007701c7bccf$edf30f50$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707021048ne777b3eye643304e77fe8173@mail.gmail.com> There's nothing wrong with the Spit rack in the Midget. The older rack is supposedly better because of the ratio and relative beefiness, but I don't think it is something worth changing out unless you have a bad newer one and good spare older one. From smarc at smarc.net Mon Jul 2 12:03:06 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 14:03:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Grease in Steering rack... In-Reply-To: <007701c7bccf$edf30f50$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <46885C47.80508@smarc.net><001c01c7bca9$cdb20780$6401a8c0@personal><000701c7bcb0$07182f80$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov><002f01c7bcc5$d2e68390$6401a8c0@personal> <46892917.5050907@smarc.net><5f00d9910707020940x2fd80598tcf8bc9d398284c20@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910707020942v551d9ea5g4337005377bf582b@mail.gmail.com> <007701c7bccf$edf30f50$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <46893DDA.9080504@smarc.net> Since I have the radiator out, there is good access right now... I thought I would screw in a zerk fitting, but I wasn't sure what size goes in there... Marc David Lieb wrote: Spit racks were used starting in 1972. If your car was made after that, then you should have the spit rack. If it was made before that and titled in 73, it could have the older rack. The older rack is more desirable and more robust. I have never had a car with the Morris rack, so my opinion is flawed ;-). I understand that the Morris rack is a quicker ratio, therefore more desirable, but I have no complaints about the performance or robustness of the Spitty rack. Introducing grease into the rack is not fun. I wish they had used a zerk. The threads of that bolt seem to be quite similar to those on a grease gun, but you don't get a straight shot at them. I suppose you could drill and tap the bolt for a grease fitting... David Lieb From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Jul 2 13:26:40 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 14:26:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Window Treatments In-Reply-To: <000d01c7bcb0$5a5b0910$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <000d01c7bcb0$5a5b0910$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <002a01c7bcde$ec34e6c0$c49eb440$@com> Ummm... no, I was married to (a woman) an interior decorator. Lots of Miata owners in that crowd. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 8:53 AM To: Spridget List Subject: [Spridgets] Window Treatments The results of the poll of Miata-owning males are in. Flounder appears to be the only male I know who has ever heard the phrase "window treatment" I guess it is Bugeye racers whose masculinity should be considered questionable. Not that there is anything wrong with that... David Lieb 1972 RWA Midget From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Jul 2 13:39:23 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 12:39:23 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Window Treatments References: <000d01c7bcb0$5a5b0910$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <002a01c7bcde$ec34e6c0$c49eb440$@com> Message-ID: <000601c7bce0$b1780ec0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> I thought "window treatment" was something from a Soprano's episode that involved a tall building. (After checking for innocent LBCs parked below) > Ummm... no, I was married to (a woman) an interior decorator. Lots of > Miata > owners in that crowd. From Miniac7 at aol.com Mon Jul 2 16:01:25 2007 From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 18:01:25 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC...Looking for SeaDoo Info. Message-ID: You may need to have the carb. cleaned. I had a very similar problem years ago and it was only noticeable at 3/4 throttle and above, while under load. The fuel bowl was silted up from trashy gas. Have a fuel filter added while you're at it, as not all of them came with them. Also, while it's on the trailer check the intake grate for the possibility of debris that may be restricting water flow to the impeller. Howard Collins Virginia Beach, Va. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. From mconn2 at bright.net Mon Jul 2 17:15:11 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 19:15:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Cadillac Eldorado v. AN5 References: <001801c7bc53$4c5cdc10$4a34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757><5f00d9910707011951p28032cb2j2513b850ad91b74a@mail.gmail.com><003b01c7bc55$82dbbf70$4a34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <049801c7bc57$6eba0590$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <002301c7bcfe$d74e0c80$3b34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Ed, The problem is that its a local shop which has done work for me on various of our vehicles for quite a few years now. It's really quite frustrating to go round in circles with something which, on the surface, seems so straightforward, or so you would think. Maybe, a specialty AC shop would be a good idea. I'm driving back to Michigan from Ohio tomorrow for the rest of the week, and think I'll take some time out to find one. I've not looked before. Got any suggestions (i.e. names)? I'm lost. What does "134" mean, or is it obvious? Is this something I should know, or be doing? Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "WJHS1960" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cadillac Eldorado v. AN5 > < receiving > the wrong message?>> > > Bet it does NOT like the 134, Michael. > > <> > > Yep. I would find (seek out assistence) a REAL machanic at a small local > shop > or a speciality AC shop. Caddy "mechanics" are NOT ones. They are 'puter > geeks and part changers!! > > Ed > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mconn2 at bright.net Mon Jul 2 17:28:00 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 19:28:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Cadillac Eldorado v. AN5 References: <18585.72424.qm@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002c01c7bd00$a1ef4250$3b34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Ron, So, 134a is the new A/C gas. I've just asked Ed what "134" is, and you've told me. I note what you say about Helium, and will talk to the GM people about the idea. The dye has been used by the earlier small local garage: no leaks. The small local garage also used a blue light with the operator wearing special glasses (?): no leaks. What does the paperclip do in the (intermittent) relief valve on the condenser? Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "WJHS1960" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 11:39 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cadillac Eldorado v. AN5 > --- WJHS1960 wrote: >> Bet it does NOT like the 134, Michael. > > Back-in-the-day, I did a lot of work on R-134a > replacement after the 1989 Montreal Protocol came out, > before 134a was commercially available. 134a was not > compatible with the compressor shaft seals that were > used for R-12. I was always amazed that the > "conversion kits" often just consisted of schrader > valve adapters! If you've got a really good shop, > another trick we used to use on aircraft for finding > particularly sneaky leaks is to fill the system with > Helium and use a Helium sniffer to find them. Helium > is easier to sniff than refrigerant, although you may > get some leaks with He that you won't have with > refrigerant. The dye stuff is OK, but not always easy > to see on a car. > > Check for a faulty (intermittent) relief valve on the > condenser as well. If it's not really low on charge > and the evaporator isn't icing, find the switch and > stick a paperclip in it! > > G'luck, > Ron > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. > Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. > http://sims.yahoo.com/ > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jul 2 17:41:11 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 16:41:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Cadillac Eldorado v. AN5 In-Reply-To: <002c01c7bd00$a1ef4250$3b34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <34283.2922.qm@web30509.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Michael Conn wrote: > What does the paperclip do in the (intermittent) > relief valve on the > condenser? > What I meant was, if no leaks are present, there's a switch shutting off the compressor due to a false signal. Disable the switch (by jumping it with a wire) and the compressor will stay on. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jul 2 17:51:13 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 17:51:13 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cadillac Eldorado v. AN5 In-Reply-To: <34283.2922.qm@web30509.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <002c01c7bd00$a1ef4250$3b34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <34283.2922.qm@web30509.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707021651w74b09d9bt911b1bc1e2c0c191@mail.gmail.com> If you do jump the switch with a paperclip and the system doesn't cool, don't run it for long. If the oil leaks out with the gas, you don't want to run the compressor. From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jul 2 19:20:58 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 21:20:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Dizzy question... In-Reply-To: <001d01c7bcb1$a04fb500$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <4687D7F9.699.1F7B027@dmg.bossig.com><5f00d9910707011738n4d8f1fa0t5df1e13f9e5ca5d@mail.gmail.com><4687FF8D.16634.2924BBE@dmg.bossig.com> <5f00d9910707011934s6f4e6e8cw61fefdebf70a2de8@mail.gmail.com> <001d01c7bcb1$a04fb500$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <4689A47A.7050008@comcast.net> David Lieb wrote: > Friends do NOT send friends to Autozone. Or Advanced auto crap Or the chink boys And those 3 put all the REAL auto parts places out of business in my town. So I go to World Wide Auto Parts for all my automotive needs. From dmg at bossig.com Mon Jul 2 20:08:40 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (dmg at bossig.com) Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 19:08:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Dizzy question... In-Reply-To: <4689A47A.7050008@comcast.net> References: <4687D7F9.699.1F7B027@dmg.bossig.com>, <001d01c7bcb1$a04fb500$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>, <4689A47A.7050008@comcast.net> Message-ID: <46894D38.7453.2A01018@dmg.bossig.com> On 2 Jul 2007 at 21:20, Frank Clarici wrote: >> So I go to World Wide Auto Parts for all my automotive needs. All I have available here, in the Tri-Cities, is Schucks (who bought out the only Autozone) and NAPA. Nothing else... Nada! If I want any to use any other supplier(s) I have to drive over 230 miles, or use the Internet! And Washington State has just joined the group of 22 other states that are going to charge State Sales tax on Internet purchases... There goes the neighbourhood ;-[ Dave G. From mark at nashvilletn.org Mon Jul 2 20:36:35 2007 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 21:36:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC...Looking for SeaDoo Info. FIXED! References: <00c201c7bbe8$887e16c0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> <007201c7bcfb$145ab2d0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> Message-ID: <013b01c7bd1a$fa8889c0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> Thanks for all of the Sea-Doo tips and tricks. As you may recall it ran fine on the trailer but not in the water. We found that it had a cracked rubber exhaust pipe hose. Apparently when the seat was installed there was enough exhaust gas filling the engine compartment that it displaced the O2 and just didn't have enough air to breathe. We found a smudge on the side of the boat where the exhaust and water was leaking. The air intake for the carb is on the under side of the air box and was just sucking in exhaust gasses. $6 worth of hose and all is well, we now know that all of the other stuff is ok too. Thanks for the help, my Daughter thinks that Dad can fix anything, she doesn't know about you guys! Mark Nashville From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jul 3 08:19:58 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 08:19:58 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC...Looking for SeaDoo Info. FIXED! In-Reply-To: <013b01c7bd1a$fa8889c0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> References: <00c201c7bbe8$887e16c0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> <007201c7bcfb$145ab2d0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> <013b01c7bd1a$fa8889c0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707030719n3886b31cu9031dc299707bdf4@mail.gmail.com> Well, Dad can fix anything. I can fix anything but a rainbow or a broken heart, with patience and perseverance. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jul 3 08:43:49 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 10:43:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC...Looking for SeaDoo Info. FIXED! Message-ID: <20070703144349.QOAD3229.tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> I get by with a little help from my friends. ( sounds familiar?! :) ) > From: derf > > Well, Dad can fix anything. > I can fix anything but a rainbow or a broken heart, with patience and > perseverance. From lists at woozy.com Tue Jul 3 09:47:16 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 11:47:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Source for Crossflow Radiator In-Reply-To: <20070703144349.QOAD3229.tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20070703144349.QOAD3229.tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <468A6F84.6030206@woozy.com> A while back when I was having radiator problems someone on the list gave me a link to a parts supplier who carried radiators that were more like the original than the VB one is. Now that I have the money to replace the tired radiator in the car I can't seem to find that link or the email. If the person who sent it to me could resend it I'd appreciate it. Switching to a totally different topic, I took my son with me to Horrible Freight last weekend to pick up some abrasive blasting media. While we were there I got a $30 radio controlled plane for my son. The plane's wing broke on the first landing. Don't know what I was thinking........... Cheers, Robert From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jul 3 10:00:54 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 11:00:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Source for Crossflow Radiator References: <20070703144349.QOAD3229.tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <468A6F84.6030206@woozy.com> Message-ID: <00d401c7bd8b$56542f50$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Switching to a totally different topic, I took my son with me to > Horrible Freight last weekend to pick up some abrasive blasting media. > While we were there I got a $30 radio controlled plane for my son. The > plane's wing broke on the first landing. Don't know what I was > thinking........... Robert, The correct spelling is "Horrible Fright". You should have noticed the spare wings for sale next to the plane... you were warned ;-) From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Tue Jul 3 11:01:32 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 12:01:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rib Case Gear box question AGAIN In-Reply-To: <200706190247.l5J2li8E025844@ms-smtp-03.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <200707031658.l63GwboE021746@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> Hi all- So I finally got things to line up well. I think I uncovered another problem though...what are the chances of the clutch plates stuck together? If I spin the engine and move the clutch lever the tail shaft still moves. Not really a good sign, right? Chris 66 MKIII Brookfield, WI > Hi- > > I'm attempting to reassemble the remote control assembly back to the > gearbox, and I just can't seem to get the shaft to mesh up with the forks > properly. This is a twist and hope type of assembly. If you step away for a bit and come back to it, it just drops in like the book says. I have done it several times, and it always makes me wonder. It just does not go no matter what, then after a break, it falls into place. But you do have to have all the forks in the neutral (lined up) position and just twist and wiggle. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ _______________________________________________ From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jul 3 11:19:15 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 11:19:15 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Source for Crossflow Radiator In-Reply-To: <468A6F84.6030206@woozy.com> References: <20070703144349.QOAD3229.tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <468A6F84.6030206@woozy.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707031019n5c1803csd2eb684ae4c23385@mail.gmail.com> Don't know how old your son is. Don't know the answer to your rad question. But, I do know a little about toy planes. Some of the HF planes are OK. The Yellow Bee can be a good plane. But, if really want a pleasant experience with RC planes, get TWO Air Hogs Aero Ace Biplanes. They are the best value in RC planes ever. Get two different colors and frequencies so you can both fly together. If you lean toward the liberal (weenie) side you can play follow the leader and race around goal posts and things. If you lean toward the right (fascist) side you can play air combat. Make sure you get the Aero Ace BIPLANE. The Aero Ace jets are OK, but not nearly the fun of the bipes. The Aero Ace Biplanes are simple, fun, rugged, and can be improved if you like to tinker. It is the ONLY plane that usually flies good for beginners out of the box with no hassle. I got mine at Target around Christmas time for around $30. BTW, the $7 free flight planes at HF are OK. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jul 3 11:25:01 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 11:25:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Rib Case Gear box question AGAIN In-Reply-To: <200707031658.l63GwboE021746@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> References: <200706190247.l5J2li8E025844@ms-smtp-03.rdc-kc.rr.com> <200707031658.l63GwboE021746@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707031025o6ea542e5v4775923c6b5cf10d@mail.gmail.com> The clutch could be a little stuck or it could just be normal. Put the tranny in neutral and try pushing the car. Or, with the tranny in neutral try turning the driveshaft by hand with the motor off, of course. Cheers, Derf From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jul 3 11:31:27 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 12:31:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rib Case Gear box question AGAIN References: <200706190247.l5J2li8E025844@ms-smtp-03.rdc-kc.rr.com><200707031658.l63GwboE021746@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> <5f00d9910707031025o6ea542e5v4775923c6b5cf10d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00f201c7bd97$fcab8900$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > The clutch could be a little stuck or it could just be normal. > Put the tranny in neutral and try pushing the car. > Or, with the tranny in neutral try turning the driveshaft by hand with > the motor off, of course. I fail to see where either of these approaches will help him diagnose whether his clutch disk is stuck. They will find out wherther neutral is working (or not working, if you wish to look at it like that), but the clutch may or may not be stuck to the pressure plate or the flywheel and these suggestions will neither identify nor remedy that. It sounds as if the drive train is not yet back in the car? David Lieb From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jul 3 11:40:59 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 11:40:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Rib Case Gear box question AGAIN In-Reply-To: <00f201c7bd97$fcab8900$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <200706190247.l5J2li8E025844@ms-smtp-03.rdc-kc.rr.com> <200707031658.l63GwboE021746@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> <5f00d9910707031025o6ea542e5v4775923c6b5cf10d@mail.gmail.com> <00f201c7bd97$fcab8900$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707031040l46bf5d7ap3a35d94b854754b1@mail.gmail.com> Oh, yeah, make that with the car in gear and the clutch pedal pushed. From lists at woozy.com Tue Jul 3 11:46:27 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 13:46:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Source for Crossflow Radiator In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707031019n5c1803csd2eb684ae4c23385@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070703144349.QOAD3229.tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <468A6F84.6030206@woozy.com> <5f00d9910707031019n5c1803csd2eb684ae4c23385@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <468A8B73.1000301@woozy.com> Hey Derf, We got the Yellow Bee and as Daniel pointed out I did see the spare wings for sale and the thought did cross my mind that maybe that was a bad sign. The cutouts around the engines create a weak spot in the wing and that's where ours cracked. We've had a bunch of Air Hogs but never tried the Biplanes. We got one last year when they switched to the smaller size planes and that was a blast but it got tore up after a few days of flying. We operated on the Yellow Bee last night with some hot glue and clear cellophane packing tape. We'll give it another try tomorrow. Robert derf wrote: > Don't know how old your son is. Don't know the answer to your rad > question. > But, I do know a little about toy planes. Some of the HF planes are > OK. The Yellow Bee can be a good plane. > But, if really want a pleasant experience with RC planes, get TWO Air > Hogs Aero Ace Biplanes. They are the best value in RC planes ever. > Get two different colors and frequencies so you can both fly together. > If you lean toward the liberal (weenie) side you can play follow the > leader and race around goal posts and things. If you lean toward the > right (fascist) side you can play air combat. Make sure you get the > Aero Ace BIPLANE. The Aero Ace jets are OK, but not nearly the fun of > the bipes. The Aero Ace Biplanes are simple, fun, rugged, and can be > improved if you like to tinker. It is the ONLY plane that usually > flies good for beginners out of the box with no hassle. I got mine at > Target around Christmas time for around $30. > BTW, the $7 free flight planes at HF are OK. > Cheers, > Derf From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Tue Jul 3 12:02:16 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 13:02:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rib Case Gear box question AGAIN In-Reply-To: <00f201c7bd97$fcab8900$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <200707031759.l63HxK6p005377@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> I have the motor/tranny out. Neutral does work. My concern was that if I put it in any gear and moved the lever towards the driveshaft end, nothing was disengaging. In fact, the lever feels loose as it its not engaging anything. (lever meaning there the slave attaches to) It has sat for a LONG time indoors. Thanks Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 12:31 PM To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rib Case Gear box question AGAIN > The clutch could be a little stuck or it could just be normal. > Put the tranny in neutral and try pushing the car. > Or, with the tranny in neutral try turning the driveshaft by hand with > the motor off, of course. I fail to see where either of these approaches will help him diagnose whether his clutch disk is stuck. They will find out wherther neutral is working (or not working, if you wish to look at it like that), but the clutch may or may not be stuck to the pressure plate or the flywheel and these suggestions will neither identify nor remedy that. It sounds as if the drive train is not yet back in the car? David Lieb From jlaird237 at cox.net Tue Jul 3 12:22:12 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 13:22:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rib Case Gear box question AGAIN References: <200707031658.l63GwboE021746@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <002201c7bd9f$13afda50$6401a8c0@personal> If you did not have the pressure plate off when the tranny was out the chances are preaty good. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Manuel" To: "'Spridget Mailing List'" Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 12:01 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Rib Case Gear box question AGAIN > Hi all- > > So I finally got things to line up well. I think I uncovered another > problem though...what are the chances of the clutch plates stuck together? > > If I spin the engine and move the clutch lever the tail shaft still moves. > > Not really a good sign, right? > > Chris > 66 MKIII > Brookfield, WI > > >> Hi- >> >> I'm attempting to reassemble the remote control assembly back to the >> gearbox, and I just can't seem to get the shaft to mesh up with the forks >> properly. > > This is a twist and hope type of assembly. > If you step away for a bit and come back to it, it just drops in like > the book says. I have done it several times, and it always makes me > wonder. It just does not go no matter what, then after a break, it falls > into place. > But you do have to have all the forks in the neutral (lined up) position > and just twist and wiggle. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/880 - Release Date: 6/29/2007 > 2:15 PM From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Tue Jul 3 12:32:24 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 13:32:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rib Case Gear box question AGAIN In-Reply-To: <002201c7bd9f$13afda50$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: <200707031832.l63IW5KM015415@ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com> I never had them apart. I have no problem taking it off, but I have no idea how to align it back up if I do, even when reading the Bentley book. Is it tough? I had an old motorcycle that did this once, but figured this was a little more involved considering the rear end and all. -----Original Message----- From: Jack Laird [mailto:jlaird237 at cox.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 1:22 PM To: Chris Manuel; 'Spridget Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rib Case Gear box question AGAIN If you did not have the pressure plate off when the tranny was out the chances are preaty good. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Manuel" To: "'Spridget Mailing List'" Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 12:01 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Rib Case Gear box question AGAIN > Hi all- > > So I finally got things to line up well. I think I uncovered another > problem though...what are the chances of the clutch plates stuck together? > > If I spin the engine and move the clutch lever the tail shaft still moves. > > Not really a good sign, right? > > Chris > 66 MKIII > Brookfield, WI > > >> Hi- From peter at nosimport.com Tue Jul 3 12:45:57 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 13:45:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rib Case Gear box question AGAIN In-Reply-To: <200707031759.l63HxK6p005377@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> References: <00f201c7bd97$fcab8900$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <200707031759.l63HxK6p005377@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070703134423.034b4b98@nosimport.com> Chris, it takes A LOT OF FORCE to disengage the clutch. Without hydraulics, you'll need a long pipe to lever the lever, or a lever. Peter C .. At 01:02 PM 7/3/2007, you wrote: >I have the motor/tranny out. > >Neutral does work. My concern was that if I put it in any gear and moved >the lever towards the driveshaft end, nothing was disengaging. In fact, the >lever feels loose as it its not engaging anything. (lever meaning there the >slave attaches to) > >It has sat for a LONG time indoors. > >Thanks >Chris > >-----Original Message----- >From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net >[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb >Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 12:31 PM >To: Spridget List >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rib Case Gear box question AGAIN > > > The clutch could be a little stuck or it could just be normal. > > Put the tranny in neutral and try pushing the car. > > Or, with the tranny in neutral try turning the driveshaft by hand with > > the motor off, of course. > >I fail to see where either of these approaches will help him diagnose >whether his clutch disk is stuck. They will find out wherther neutral is >working (or not working, if you wish to look at it like that), but the >clutch may or may not be stuck to the pressure plate or the flywheel >and these suggestions will neither identify nor remedy that. > >It sounds as if the drive train is not yet back in the car? >David Lieb From kramer.allen at comcast.net Tue Jul 3 12:55:40 2007 From: kramer.allen at comcast.net (kramer.allen at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 18:55:40 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] At Speed Mis-Fire Message-ID: <070320071855.10550.468A9BAC000B70B5000029362200763704020A04040ED29D0A030E9D05@comcast.net> I did forget to mention I am running a Judson Supercharger w/ Holley Carb. -------------- Original message -------------- From: derf > Check the dashpot oil. You could have oscillating carb pistons. > Is the miss the same at all RPM levels? > Cheers, > Derf I need help trouble shooting a problem that has occurred with my 948 cc engine. I'm not sure if I am experiencing an ignition problem or a fuel problem. When crusining at a steady speed a mis occurs. However, when I am accelerating there is no mis. Any suggestions? Thank you, Allen From peter at nosimport.com Tue Jul 3 13:08:18 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 14:08:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] At Speed Mis-Fire In-Reply-To: <070320071855.10550.468A9BAC000B70B5000029362200763704020A0 4040ED29D0A030E9D05@comcast.net> References: <070320071855.10550.468A9BAC000B70B5000029362200763704020A04040ED29D0A030E9D05@comcast.net> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070703140756.03296110@nosimport.com> details, details.... LOL ==== At 01:55 PM 7/3/2007, kramer.allen at comcast.net wrote: >I did forget to mention I am running a Judson Supercharger w/ Holley Carb. >-------------- Original message -------------- >From: derf > > > Check the dashpot oil. You could have oscillating carb pistons. > > Is the miss the same at all RPM levels? > > Cheers, > > Derf > >I need help trouble shooting a problem that has occurred with my 948 >cc engine. I'm not sure if I am experiencing an ignition problem or >a fuel problem. When crusining at a steady speed a mis occurs. >However, when I am accelerating there is no mis. Any suggestions? >Thank you, Allen From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Tue Jul 3 13:14:21 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 14:14:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rib Case Gear box question AGAIN In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070703134423.034b4b98@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <200707031911.l63JBS58008183@ms-smtp-03.rdc-kc.rr.com> I have underestimated the force of hydraulics. I didn't feel good about forcing it earlier. Force helps. Clutch is doing its thing with a few extra feet of leverage. Thanks everyone! Onto the brakes... Chris -----Original Message----- From: Peter C [mailto:peter at nosimport.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 1:46 PM To: Chris Manuel Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rib Case Gear box question AGAIN Chris, it takes A LOT OF FORCE to disengage the clutch. Without hydraulics, you'll need a long pipe to lever the lever, or a lever. Peter C .. At 01:02 PM 7/3/2007, you wrote: >I have the motor/tranny out. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jul 3 13:16:18 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 14:16:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rib Case Gear box question AGAIN References: <200707031759.l63HxK6p005377@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <010501c7bda6$a2e5abd0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Neutral does work. My concern was that if I put it in any gear and moved > the lever towards the driveshaft end, nothing was disengaging. In fact, > the > lever feels loose as it its not engaging anything. (lever meaning there > the > slave attaches to) As Peter said, you will NOT be able to disengage the clutch without the hydraulics or a huge pipe unless you do not physically fit in a Spridget ;-) You can remove the rubber plug at the top of the bellhousing and observe what the lever is accomplishing. I would recommend that you remove the transmission, pull the pressure plate, make sure the disk is not stuck to anything, then re-assemble. Much easier now than after it is back in the car! As far as re-centering the clutch, it is not a big deal. Peter could probably sell you a pilot tool, but it isn't really necessary. Just start a couple of the bolts for the pressure plate, reach through the arches on the sides of the pressure plate and center the clutch disk to the mating surface of the pressure plate before tightening anything down. Works a treat. David Lieb From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jul 3 13:39:44 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 14:39:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rib Case Gear box question AGAIN References: <200707031911.l63JBS58008183@ms-smtp-03.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <010901c7bda9$e88ff660$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >I have underestimated the force of hydraulics. I didn't feel good about > forcing it earlier. > Force helps. Clutch is doing its thing with a few extra feet of leverage. > Onto the brakes... Chris, The brakes are hydraulic, too. Not sure where to put the big pipe ;-) Do measure the inside diameter of the drums.. David Lieb From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jul 3 13:54:19 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 14:54:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Source for Crossflow Radiator In-Reply-To: <468A6F84.6030206@woozy.com> References: <20070703144349.QOAD3229.tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <468A6F84.6030206@woozy.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0707031254n66988b7cn85f70dc78863fa84@mail.gmail.com> Robert, Try Jeff Zorn at LBCarCo.com for the radiator. Got mine there two years ago and am very pleased with it. Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City On 7/3/07, Robert Weeks wrote: > A while back when I was having radiator problems someone on the list > gave me a link to a parts supplier who carried radiators that were more > like the original than the VB one is. Now that I have the money to > replace the tired radiator in the car I can't seem to find that link or > the email. If the person who sent it to me could resend it I'd > appreciate it. > > Switching to a totally different topic, I took my son with me to > Horrible Freight last weekend to pick up some abrasive blasting media. > While we were there I got a $30 radio controlled plane for my son. The > plane's wing broke on the first landing. Don't know what I was > thinking........... > > Cheers, > > Robert > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From lists at woozy.com Tue Jul 3 13:57:45 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 15:57:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Source for Crossflow Radiator In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0707031254n66988b7cn85f70dc78863fa84@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070703144349.QOAD3229.tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <468A6F84.6030206@woozy.com> <43840a7e0707031254n66988b7cn85f70dc78863fa84@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <468AAA39.3050307@woozy.com> Thanks Jim, That was the link I was looking for. Robert Jim Johnson wrote: > Robert, > > Try Jeff Zorn at LBCarCo.com for the radiator. Got mine there two > years ago and am very pleased with it. > > Cheers!! > Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jul 3 14:25:40 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 14:25:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] At Speed Mis-Fire In-Reply-To: <070320071855.10550.468A9BAC000B70B5000029362200763704020A04040ED29D0A030E9D05@comcast.net> References: <070320071855.10550.468A9BAC000B70B5000029362200763704020A04040ED29D0A030E9D05@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707031325u6c5982cfrb5cbe2ad8e39ac84@mail.gmail.com> On 7/3/07, kramer.allen at comcast.net wrote: > > I did forget to mention I am running a Judson Supercharger w/ Holley Carb. > Make doubly sure the miss isn't pre-ignition (knock or ping). Misses are still usually fuel or fire. Check rotor, cap, and points. Look for loose wires in and around the points and dizzy. Cheers, Derf From jlaird237 at cox.net Tue Jul 3 14:47:02 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 15:47:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rib Case Gear box question AGAIN References: <200707031832.l63IW5KM015415@ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <001001c7bdb3$4f2e79b0$6401a8c0@personal> Clutch disk needs to be centered vary carefully, There is a special tool but it can be done without it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Manuel" To: "'Jack Laird'" ; "'Spridget Mailing List'" Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 1:32 PM Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Rib Case Gear box question AGAIN > > I never had them apart. I have no problem taking it off, but I have no > idea > how to align it back up if I do, even when reading the Bentley book. Is > it > tough? > > I had an old motorcycle that did this once, but figured this was a little > more involved considering the rear end and all. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jack Laird [mailto:jlaird237 at cox.net] > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 1:22 PM > To: Chris Manuel; 'Spridget Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rib Case Gear box question AGAIN > > If you did not have the pressure plate off when the tranny was out the > chances are preaty good. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Manuel" > To: "'Spridget Mailing List'" > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 12:01 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Rib Case Gear box question AGAIN > > >> Hi all- >> >> So I finally got things to line up well. I think I uncovered another >> problem though...what are the chances of the clutch plates stuck >> together? >> >> If I spin the engine and move the clutch lever the tail shaft still >> moves. >> >> Not really a good sign, right? >> >> Chris >> 66 MKIII >> Brookfield, WI >> >> >>> Hi- > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/880 - Release Date: 6/29/2007 > 2:15 PM From dmg at bossig.com Tue Jul 3 15:16:44 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (dmg at bossig.com) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 14:16:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] SU bolt query... Message-ID: <468A5A4C.16026.9CE8E2@dmg.bossig.com> Would some kind gentleman tell me the bolt size and thread for the bolt that holds the air cleaners to the SU carbs?? TIA From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jul 3 15:35:38 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 16:35:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SU bolt query... References: <468A5A4C.16026.9CE8E2@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <011501c7bdba$197a4a40$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Would some kind gentleman tell me the bolt size and thread for the bolt > that holds the air cleaners to the SU carbs?? 5/16 x 18tpi. Standard UNC coarse thread. I used a chunk of "all-thread" from Sears to attach mine. I used the standard backing plates, followed by APT's cast aluminum stub stacks, topped by a locknut, then another locknut just under a flat plate to top the filter elements and another nut on top of the plate. David Lieb From kramer.allen at comcast.net Tue Jul 3 17:23:47 2007 From: kramer.allen at comcast.net (kramer.allen at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 23:23:47 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] At Speed Mis-Fire Message-ID: <070320072323.24683.468ADA8300081CA30000606B2207022933020A04040ED29D0A030E9D05@comcast.net> Would a pre-ignition occur when the engine is under a load......accelerating? I cannot feel a mis when accelerating. Allen -------------- Original message -------------- From: derf > On 7/3/07, kramer.allen at comcast.net wrote: > > > > I did forget to mention I am running a Judson Supercharger w/ Holley Carb. > > > > Make doubly sure the miss isn't pre-ignition (knock or ping). > Misses are still usually fuel or fire. > Check rotor, cap, and points. Look for loose wires in and around the > points and dizzy. > Cheers, > Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jul 3 17:35:12 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 17:35:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] At Speed Mis-Fire In-Reply-To: <070320072323.24683.468ADA8300081CA30000606B2207022933020A04040ED29D0A030E9D05@comcast.net> References: <070320072323.24683.468ADA8300081CA30000606B2207022933020A04040ED29D0A030E9D05@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707031635q3dc27561ie95644eaad4b717@mail.gmail.com> Probably so. Could be too much or too little fuel? How's the carb? Connect a timing light. When the engine is missing turn on the timing light and see if the light goes away or acts sporadically. If it only happens when driving then run the timing light wire under the bonnet and have the passenger hold it while you drive. You can check each wire but start with the coil wire. It'll flash the timing light 4x faster than individual plug wires, but you might catch the miss there. If you do, then focus on spark. Cheers, Derf On 7/3/07, kramer.allen at comcast.net wrote: > > Would a pre-ignition occur when the engine is under a > load......accelerating? I cannot feel a mis when accelerating. From kramer.allen at comcast.net Tue Jul 3 17:45:33 2007 From: kramer.allen at comcast.net (kramer.allen at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 23:45:33 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] At Speed Mis-Fire Message-ID: <070320072345.1598.468ADF9D0001AC950000063E2205886014020A04040ED29D0A030E9D05@comcast.net> Sounds like a plan. I will let you know how I make out. Thank you, Allen -------------- Original message -------------- From: derf > Probably so. > Could be too much or too little fuel? How's the carb? > > Connect a timing light. When the engine is missing turn on the > timing light and see if the light goes away or acts sporadically. If > it only happens when driving then run the timing light wire under the > bonnet and have the passenger hold it while you drive. You can check > each wire but start with the coil wire. It'll flash the timing light > 4x faster than individual plug wires, but you might catch the miss > there. If you do, then focus on spark. > Cheers, > Derf > > > On 7/3/07, kramer.allen at comcast.net wrote: > > > > Would a pre-ignition occur when the engine is under a > > load......accelerating? I cannot feel a mis when accelerating. From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Tue Jul 3 18:35:59 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 17:35:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] cracked cylinder liner Message-ID: <200707040035.l640ZxU0015052@lymeon.ucdavis.edu> I just couldn't believe that the new head gasket that went in after the piston swap was blown, and sure enough, it wasn't. When I dropped off the head at the machine shop, he eyeballed it and said he didn't see any problem big enough to account for significant water leakage. He said to take a good long look at the cylinder liners. Good call. The #4 sleeve is cracked through and through. Its a good thing I'm getting started now to get ready for next year's big dance, cause at this rate I'll only just have time to fix every !@#$%^&** piece of this car. On the bright side, the rollbar is in and the sound system is nearly finished. I'll post a pic or two when its done. Subtle, nearly invisible, I-Pod friendly, and REALLY LOUD. The extra amp made the difference. Glen Byrns From cbaustin at verizon.net Tue Jul 3 18:48:54 2007 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 20:48:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 03July Message-ID: <007e01c7bdd5$195d3110$2f01a8c0@universal1> Happy Birthday, DMH! CB From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jul 3 19:50:16 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 18:50:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] List's quiet - TR6 opinions Message-ID: <457029.7320.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Lads and lasses, A friend of mine has been bitten by the racing bug and is looking to thin the herd. He has a TR6 that was a frame off, nut and bolt restoration. No expense was spared, it was his heart and soul for the better part of 2 years. Very little is rebuilt, almost all of it is new from the 80s and early 1990s when you could get stuff that wasn't necessarily Asian. He stopped the restoration in 1993 about a week's worth of work shy and without final paint. He has offered it to me for a little more than the cost of the triple Weber set up. It will have to be gone through (seals, hoses, etc.), but it's still very nice. He has offered it only to me. So....I am NOT the type to take a bargain and flip it when it's from a friend, and i am very intrigued. Does anyone out there have any serious seat time in a TR6? I know a few TR6 guys, but I want a Spridget driver's perspective on driving what I would think is quite the truck-ish LBC, but one that has always appealed to me (especially this particular car). I have no time and space to restore it right now, but it is cheap enough that I do actually have the money in a middle class poverty kind of way. Thanks, Ron Soave "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain ____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jul 3 20:00:26 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 20:00:26 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] List's quiet - TR6 opinions In-Reply-To: <457029.7320.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <457029.7320.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707031900m43c0d34dv227a7ff3a19a27eb@mail.gmail.com> I have no seat time in 6s. But, I think the size is offset by the 6 cylinders. Triple Weber did you say? I'd go for it. If you must have a Triumph car, that is the one to have, or a 250. You gotta love IRS, and I don't mean the tax meanies. Cheers, Derf From dmg at bossig.com Tue Jul 3 20:11:05 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (dmg at bossig.com) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 19:11:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] List's quiet - TR6 opinions In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707031900m43c0d34dv227a7ff3a19a27eb@mail.gmail.com> References: <457029.7320.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <5f00d9910707031900m43c0d34dv227a7ff3a19a27eb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <468A9F49.29727.1AA63B3@dmg.bossig.com> It's a comfortable ride.... no surprises... a bit heavy on the front. Make sure the head is true... they have a habit of warping when they are removed for the first time... - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com Tue Jul 3 20:53:41 2007 From: MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com (MICHAEL CARPENTER) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 22:53:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Miss that is killing me Message-ID: <006a01c7bde6$87cb16b0$96aef904@D1PWFG61> OK, guys. I have what is a real stumper here or you all will find it really simple and a no-brainer. I have a 948 cc Sprite engine that fires on every cylinder except #1. Cylinders 2,3, and 4, just fine. No spark at the number one cylinder. The 948 had a miss that would only show up every now and then and then it started showing up more when the engine became hot. I have replaced things one at a time to try and find the culprit. I looked at the timing with a strobe light gun so I know that number one was firing. I have replaced the following: Spark plugs Spark plug wires and coil wire to solid real wire (not carbon) New Accel Chrome coil (pretty) distributor cap rotor new points then no points - Crane XR700 electronic ignition New spark plugs again - then I tried taking a new spark plug and placing it in the Spark plug wire boot and turning the motor over with the spark plug near (against) the generator bolt as a ground. cylinders 2,3,4 have good spark. No spark at cylinder one. The photo optic shutter of the crane XR700 has to fire on number one if it is firing on 2,3, and 4. It is a simple mechanism. The motor runs on the three cylinders but now I can't even check the timing etc. Though none of that should have changed as I switched all of the parts at top dead center on the the number lead. Please help me figure this one out! Thanks guys and gals. Mike From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jul 3 21:06:09 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 23:06:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] List's quiet - TR6 opinions In-Reply-To: <457029.7320.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <457029.7320.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <468B0EA1.3010508@comcast.net> Trader! From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jul 3 21:13:48 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 23:13:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Miss that is killing me In-Reply-To: <006a01c7bde6$87cb16b0$96aef904@D1PWFG61> References: <006a01c7bde6$87cb16b0$96aef904@D1PWFG61> Message-ID: <468B106C.1030708@comcast.net> MICHAEL CARPENTER wrote: > No spark at cylinder one. > > The photo optic shutter of the crane I had a no spark on #2 but my electronic points disc was warped and it wore out the magnet on #2. But yours is optic so it's not a bum magnet. If the plugwire has no spark, replace that wire. Check the cap for a carbon trail, crack, or funky terminal. If the wire fires but not the plug in the hole, my guess is a bad head gasket. I just had one of them too. Blowing compression into the cooling system while putting just enough water in the cylinder to make it miss only at an idle, at speed the water would burn off. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jul 3 21:33:40 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 20:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] List's quiet - TR6 opinions In-Reply-To: <468B0EA1.3010508@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20070704033340.18512.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> It will still be outnumbered by Spridgets, 3 to 1, not counting the 1 or 2 disassembled cars in the basement. The Alfa stays no matter what! --- Frank Clarici wrote: > Trader! > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jul 3 21:38:36 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 22:38:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Miss that is killing me References: <006a01c7bde6$87cb16b0$96aef904@D1PWFG61> Message-ID: <012301c7bdec$ce7bcd60$0401a8c0@midget> > The photo optic shutter of the crane XR700 has to fire on number one if it > is > firing on 2,3, and 4. It is a simple mechanism. I do not know that this is a valid conclusion. Isn't there a separate slit for each cylinder? These have been known to rub on the "eye" and wear funny. Likewise, a little debris in the right slot would do this. Pull that shutter and inspect it. I seem to recall that it can be put back on 90* rotated to see if that moves the problem to another cylinder, but it has been a long time since I have looked at one of these and I could be mistaken. Got a 25D to put in as a test? David Lieb From MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com Tue Jul 3 21:43:59 2007 From: MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com (MICHAEL CARPENTER) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 23:43:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Miss that is killing me References: <006a01c7bde6$87cb16b0$96aef904@D1PWFG61> <012301c7bdec$ce7bcd60$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <009301c7bded$8e7b1bc0$96aef904@D1PWFG61> Good ideas. I am planning to throw in another distributor tomorrow and see if I can get the cylinders to all fire. I will take a good look at the shutter tomorrow also. It is strange that I had #1 cylinder somewhat firing before changing to the Crane set-up. I will keep you all informed of what I find out. This one has me stumped. Usually plug and play eventually cures what ails it. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "MICHAEL CARPENTER" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 11:38 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Miss that is killing me >> The photo optic shutter of the crane XR700 has to fire on number one if >> it is >> firing on 2,3, and 4. It is a simple mechanism. > > I do not know that this is a valid conclusion. Isn't there a separate slit > for > each cylinder? These have been known to rub on the "eye" and wear funny. > Likewise, a little debris in the right slot would do this. Pull that > shutter and > inspect it. I seem to recall that it can be put back on 90* rotated to see > if > that moves the problem to another cylinder, but it has been a long time > since > I have looked at one of these and I could be mistaken. Got a 25D to put in > as a test? > David Lieb From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Tue Jul 3 22:14:16 2007 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 0:14:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] List's quiet - TR6 opinions Message-ID: <6103330.1183522456319.JavaMail.root@wmvirt33> Does anyone out there have any serious seat time in a TR6? Ron Soave I had one last year for several months. They don't handle nearly as well as a spridget but you already deduced that. The ride is decent but not in the league with a Caddy or Benz. Not a whole lot of travel in the suspension so you will notice potholes... They are good highway cars especially if it has OD. Good sound even with a stock muffler. Second gear synchro can be like a spridget's so all that double clutch practice will be good thing. Make sure that the frame is not rusted out. I know you said that it was a frame off restoration but just check it anyway. They are prone to extra "lightening holes" and shortened rails. Check the body panel alignment, especially the doors for a saggy frame. Also check the rear axles. The splines can rust in place and then the suspension doesn't move properly. You'll understand when you look at it. A good car will sit properly when you look at the rear tires. Most sit with some positive camber when it should be neutral or a little negative. All in all they are not bad cars. If you can buy it for the right price, do it! Hey, it is a sports car... You can always find an old Jamaican body to stick on it. Kent 1960 Bugeye 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen From pythias at pacifier.com Tue Jul 3 22:53:35 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 21:53:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Miss that is killing me In-Reply-To: <009301c7bded$8e7b1bc0$96aef904@D1PWFG61> References: <006a01c7bde6$87cb16b0$96aef904@D1PWFG61> <012301c7bdec$ce7bcd60$0401a8c0@midget> <009301c7bded$8e7b1bc0$96aef904@D1PWFG61> Message-ID: <839189272.20070703215335@pacifier.com> Hello MICHAEL, if you have the instructions for the crane then you know you can tape the plug wire to the side of the block with about 3/8" gap FROM the block, spin the dizzy (or loosen the optic eye and move that.. its how you set the initial timing) so that the shutter moves past the eye and you should get spark.. you can do static timing by using #4 cylinder instead of #1 as they are 360 degrees apart in firing.... if you can get #4 to arc, you should be able to TEST #1!... -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite From dwramsey at worldnet.att.net Tue Jul 3 23:15:04 2007 From: dwramsey at worldnet.att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 22:15:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] List's quiet - TR6 opinions In-Reply-To: <457029.7320.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20070704051551.067D91879CD@autox.team.net> If it wasn't for the bug-I, it is the LBC I would want. I had a lot of seat time in a GT6 in the early 70's. If you are looking to race one the GT would be my choice. For a street car the droptop would be great. They have plenty of power and handle great, real good balance. Rust is the biggest problem. Crash From theshoe5 at comcast.net Tue Jul 3 23:22:48 2007 From: theshoe5 at comcast.net (Alan) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 01:22:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] List's quiet - TR6 opinions References: <457029.7320.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001c01c7bdfb$5d6e7730$6501a8c0@alanu23tkucaxb> > Does anyone out there have any serious seat time in a > TR6? Go for it! I have one in my garage now parked next to the Bugeye. It's a great car for those longer highway trips. Yeah they don't handle as good as the Sprite, lots of understeer, but the sound and power of the 6 make up for that. The TR6 was my first LBC with my first Midget shortly after. I used my first one as a daily driver for about 60K miles and it was always reliable and very easy to maintain. They also hold their value very well and are getting hard to find a good one for cheap. So go for it. Alan From dmg at bossig.com Tue Jul 3 23:31:47 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (dmg at bossig.com) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 22:31:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] SU bolt query... In-Reply-To: <011501c7bdba$197a4a40$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <468A5A4C.16026.9CE8E2@dmg.bossig.com>, <011501c7bdba$197a4a40$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <468ACE53.9529.26224E6@dmg.bossig.com> On 3 Jul 2007 at 16:35, David Lieb wrote: >> 5/16 x 18tpi. Standard UNC coarse thread. David, Thank you, Ace Hardware should be open tomorrow (the 4th!) Everybody have a great and safe 4th of July From hal at katemuir.com Tue Jul 3 23:52:04 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 22:52:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Miss that is killing me In-Reply-To: <839189272.20070703215335@pacifier.com> Message-ID: Bill wrote, "you can do static timing by using #4 cylinder instead of #1 as they are 360 degrees apart in firing.... if you can get #4 to arc, you should be able to TEST #1!..." Am I missing something here, or can't you do dynamic timing using #4 just as well as using #1? The crank will be in the same position when #1 fires as when #4 fires. Ergo, you can hook up your timing light to #4 and time it exactly the same as if you were using #1. Hal From froggi60 at gmail.com Tue Jul 3 23:48:45 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 22:48:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Article Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10707032248m1d35e3e7pd60d380919232fcf@mail.gmail.com> What to put (or not) in your radiator. http://www.spriteparts.com.au/radiatorfluid.htm I found this interesting, hope you do as well. Herb From froggi60 at gmail.com Tue Jul 3 23:50:16 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 22:50:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Miss that is killing me In-Reply-To: References: <839189272.20070703215335@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10707032250i3ff5e27bj805730f20c5cb9d5@mail.gmail.com> What's the position of the rotor.... On 7/3/07, Hal Faulkner wrote: > Bill wrote, > > "you can do static timing by using #4 cylinder instead of #1 as they > are 360 degrees apart in firing.... if you can get #4 to arc, > you should be able to TEST #1!..." > > Am I missing something here, or can't you do dynamic timing using #4 just as > well as using #1? The crank will be in the same position when #1 fires as > when #4 fires. Ergo, you can hook up your timing light to #4 and time it > exactly the same as if you were using #1. > > Hal > _______________________________________________ > froggi60 at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com Tue Jul 3 23:58:16 2007 From: MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com (MICHAEL CARPENTER) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 01:58:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Miss that is killing me References: <006a01c7bde6$87cb16b0$96aef904@D1PWFG61> <012301c7bdec$ce7bcd60$0401a8c0@midget> <009301c7bded$8e7b1bc0$96aef904@D1PWFG61> <839189272.20070703215335@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <001201c7be00$50b539c0$96aef904@D1PWFG61> Thanks, Bill. The new XR700 set-up actually has a red strobe that lights up so that setting the shutter is even easier. It looks to be set up right and the engine even runs but just doesn't fire on the first wire/plug. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill L" To: "MICHAEL CARPENTER" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 12:53 AM Subject: Re[2]: [Spridgets] Miss that is killing me > Hello MICHAEL, > > if you have the instructions for the crane then you know you > can tape the plug wire to the side of the block with about 3/8" > gap FROM the block, spin the dizzy (or loosen the optic eye and > move that.. its how you set the initial timing) so that the > shutter moves past the eye and you should get spark.. you can > do static timing by using #4 cylinder instead of #1 as they > are 360 degrees apart in firing.... if you can get #4 to arc, > you should be able to TEST #1!... > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > "66 Sprite From MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com Wed Jul 4 00:02:41 2007 From: MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com (MICHAEL CARPENTER) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 02:02:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Miss that is killing me References: <839189272.20070703215335@pacifier.com> <2ad6c6b10707032250i3ff5e27bj805730f20c5cb9d5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <003101c7be00$eeb03030$96aef904@D1PWFG61> The rotor was set to number one just as it was when I began the changeover. The crank stays put and is not moved while the change to XR700 is made and then the photo eyes are slid around until the strobe lights then stopped and tightened in place. Even if the timing is way off or out to lunch it should still fire on all four spark plugs just at wrong times. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "WFO Herb" To: "Hal Faulkner" Cc: "Bill L" ; "MICHAEL CARPENTER" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 1:50 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Miss that is killing me > What's the position of the rotor.... > > > > On 7/3/07, Hal Faulkner wrote: >> Bill wrote, >> >> "you can do static timing by using #4 cylinder instead of #1 as >> they >> are 360 degrees apart in firing.... if you can get #4 to arc, >> you should be able to TEST #1!..." >> >> Am I missing something here, or can't you do dynamic timing using #4 just >> as >> well as using #1? The crank will be in the same position when #1 fires >> as >> when #4 fires. Ergo, you can hook up your timing light to #4 and time it >> exactly the same as if you were using #1. >> >> Hal >> _______________________________________________ From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Wed Jul 4 04:43:31 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 06:43:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC...Looking for SeaDoo Info. FIXED! In-Reply-To: <013b01c7bd1a$fa8889c0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> References: <00c201c7bbe8$887e16c0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> <007201c7bcfb$145ab2d0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> <013b01c7bd1a$fa8889c0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> Message-ID: <920D2FC0-13A0-4FB6-8209-81E60F039E2D@phillymgclub.com> Durn, And I introduced my daughters to the list!! Larry On Jul 2, 2007, at 10:36 PM, Mark wrote: > > > Thanks for the help, my Daughter thinks that Dad can fix anything, she > doesn't know about you guys! > > Mark > Nashville > _______________________________________________ -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at bbl.med.upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Wed Jul 4 04:53:13 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 06:53:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Rib Case Gear box question AGAIN In-Reply-To: <200707031832.l63IW5KM015415@ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com> References: <200707031832.l63IW5KM015415@ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <303494E7-9D32-41D3-99BA-E9FB926D0707@phillymgclub.com> Lining them up is easy. I use a screwdriver and line of sight and get it right about 90% of the time on first try. Those wooden dowel thingys you buy are more hassle than they are worth. I would pull it apart and check since you have the whole thing out anyway. May want to seriously consider replacing the clutch plate and throw out bushing/bearing as well. If you don't, you know the whole thing has to come out again later. Larry On Jul 3, 2007, at 2:32 PM, Chris Manuel wrote: > I never had them apart. I have no problem taking it off, but I have > no idea > how to align it back up if I do, even when reading the Bentley > book. Is it > tough? > > I had an old motorcycle that did this once, but figured this was a > little > more involved considering the rear end and all. > -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at bbl.med.upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Wed Jul 4 05:11:21 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 07:11:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Well to all those in the US Message-ID: <366A3D16-B392-4374-8B97-E4214CCC14EA@phillymgclub.com> Happy Birthday USA. Hope you all have a very enjoyable mid week day off (sorry to those that work in retail). Enjoy the BBQ and whatever family you visit today. Larry PS my not so sincere apologies to those in the UK, I know this is not a happy day for those old enough to remember that little disagreement in the 1770's -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at bbl.med.upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From abcoz at hky.com Wed Jul 4 05:32:01 2007 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 07:32:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] List's quiet - TR6 opinions In-Reply-To: <457029.7320.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <013701c7be2e$f137fda0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Ron, As long as you go into the deal with the knowledge that TR really stands for "truck", they really are nice cars. They can be made to handle reasonably well, and they are nice touring cars. Regarding the triple Weber set-up: After seeing a bunch of these (I've been a local Triumph club member for 20 years), none of which ran as well as they should, I'd recommend doing what one of my Triumph club buddies did: sell the triple Weber set-up, and go to a triple Zenith-Stromberg set-up. It eliminates all of the drivability issues and runs REALLY strong (assuming the correct cam). A guy named Richard Good (I think he's in New Jersey) makes a beautiful triple Stromberg kit for that engine. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 8:50 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] List's quiet - TR6 opinions Lads and lasses, A friend of mine has been bitten by the racing bug and is looking to thin the herd. He has a TR6 that was a frame off, nut and bolt restoration. No expense was spared, it was his heart and soul for the better part of 2 years. Very little is rebuilt, almost all of it is new from the 80s and early 1990s when you could get stuff that wasn't necessarily Asian. He stopped the restoration in 1993 about a week's worth of work shy and without final paint. He has offered it to me for a little more than the cost of the triple Weber set up. It will have to be gone through (seals, hoses, etc.), but it's still very nice. He has offered it only to me. So....I am NOT the type to take a bargain and flip it when it's from a friend, and i am very intrigued. Does anyone out there have any serious seat time in a TR6? I know a few TR6 guys, but I want a Spridget driver's perspective on driving what I would think is quite the truck-ish LBC, but one that has always appealed to me (especially this particular car). I have no time and space to restore it right now, but it is cheap enough that I do actually have the money in a middle class poverty kind of way. Thanks, Ron Soave "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jul 4 06:21:31 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 07:21:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Well to all those in the US In-Reply-To: <366A3D16-B392-4374-8B97-E4214CCC14EA@phillymgclub.com> References: <366A3D16-B392-4374-8B97-E4214CCC14EA@phillymgclub.com> Message-ID: Well, I'm sitting behind my desk at work right now. We voted as employees to work the 4th, and take Friday off, for a three day weekend. No fighting for a place on the lake, and on Friday, the only drunks to contend with, will be ourselves....... Brad On 7/4/07, Larry Macy wrote: > Happy Birthday USA. > > Hope you all have a very enjoyable mid week day off (sorry to those > that work in retail). > > Enjoy the BBQ and whatever family you visit today. > > Larry > > PS my not so sincere apologies to those in the UK, I know this is not > a happy day for those old enough to remember that little disagreement > in the 1770's > > -- > > Larry Macy > 78 Midget > > Keep your top down and your chin up. > > Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. > macy at bbl.med.upenn.edu > Senior IT Program Director > Neuropsychiatry Section > Department of Psychiatry > University of Pennsylvania > 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates > Philadelphia, PA 19104 > > Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a > question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com From pilotrob at webtv.net Wed Jul 4 08:12:32 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 14:12:32 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Well to all those in the US Message-ID: "We voted as employees..." smart group! :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pilotrob at webtv.net Wed Jul 4 08:21:50 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 14:21:50 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] List's quiet - TR6 opinions Message-ID: I'd grab it, Ron. I mean, what have you really got to lose in the long run. You don't like it, you'll likely sell it for more than you've got into it. Good TR's (4's or 6's) are as difficult to find as good Frogeyes. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From hal at katemuir.com Wed Jul 4 08:40:39 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 07:40:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Well to all those in the US In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Larry wrote: > PS my not so sincere apologies to those in the UK, I know this is not > a happy day for those old enough to remember that little disagreement > in the 1770's Don't forget about 1812, either. Without which we wouldn't have had that great popular song (is that an oxymoron?) The Battle of New Orleans.... Hal From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Wed Jul 4 09:09:25 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 08:09:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Special for Frank C Message-ID: <008f01c7be4d$50542700$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Just in case Frank is wondering where his next new car might be coming from. Pa http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070704/ap_on_bi_ge/chrysler_chery;_ylt=At92HUVK iDOoQ5bjQDwepanMWM0F BEIJING - Chrysler Group signed a deal Wednesday with China's biggest automaker, Chery, to produce cars for export to the United States and elsewhere in the first attempt by a U.S. automaker to use China as a manufacturing base for world markets. The first cars will be exported within a year to Latin America or Eastern Europe, and models should reach the United States and Western Europe within 2 1/2 years, said Chrysler Chairman and CEO Tom LaSorda. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jul 4 09:13:54 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 10:13:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Special for Frank C In-Reply-To: <008f01c7be4d$50542700$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <008f01c7be4d$50542700$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: They can't make a tire worth a damn. Now they are gonna do it with cars???? On 7/4/07, Paul Asgeirsson wrote: > Just in case Frank is wondering where his next new car might be coming from. > > Pa > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070704/ap_on_bi_ge/chrysler_chery;_ylt=At92HUVK > iDOoQ5bjQDwepanMWM0F > BEIJING - Chrysler Group signed a deal Wednesday with China's biggest > automaker, Chery, to produce cars for export to the United States and > elsewhere in the first attempt by a U.S. automaker to use China as a > manufacturing base for world markets. > > The first cars will be exported within a year to Latin America or Eastern > Europe, and models should reach the United States and Western Europe within 2 > 1/2 years, said Chrysler Chairman and CEO Tom LaSorda. > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Wed Jul 4 09:15:33 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 08:15:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] BMW's too? Message-ID: <00a001c7be4e$2ba4dde0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Will your next Beemer be Chinese? Pa http://www.brillianceauto.com/brands/bmw.html From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Wed Jul 4 09:17:53 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 08:17:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Special for Frank C References: <008f01c7be4d$50542700$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <00a901c7be4e$7f0f8ac0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Maybe have US made tires on them? Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Fornal" To: "Paul Asgeirsson" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 8:13 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Special for Frank C > They can't make a tire worth a damn. Now they are gonna do it with cars???? > > On 7/4/07, Paul Asgeirsson wrote: > > Just in case Frank is wondering where his next new car might be coming from. > > > > Pa > > > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070704/ap_on_bi_ge/chrysler_chery;_ylt=At92HUVK > > iDOoQ5bjQDwepanMWM0F > > BEIJING - Chrysler Group signed a deal Wednesday with China's biggest > > automaker, Chery, to produce cars for export to the United States and > > elsewhere in the first attempt by a U.S. automaker to use China as a > > manufacturing base for world markets. > > > > The first cars will be exported within a year to Latin America or Eastern > > Europe, and models should reach the United States and Western Europe within 2 > > 1/2 years, said Chrysler Chairman and CEO Tom LaSorda. > > _______________________________________________ > > tequila.brad at gmail.com From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU Wed Jul 4 09:32:33 2007 From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 11:32:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake line lengths Message-ID: <8E95DCAE-6560-49B7-931D-1A09F5496576@dartmouth.edu> So, I was thinking about ordering new brake lines and while they were in transit remove the old. The problem with this approach is I have no clue to what lengths to get. Anyone have the correct lengths handy? '79 Midget Thanks, -m From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jul 4 09:33:04 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 11:33:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Special for Frank C In-Reply-To: References: <008f01c7be4d$50542700$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <468BBDB0.3030709@comcast.net> Brad Fornal wrote: > They can't make a tire worth a damn. Now they are gonna do it with cars???? They can't even make dog food! -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jul 4 09:34:55 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 11:34:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] BMW's too? In-Reply-To: <00a001c7be4e$2ba4dde0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <00a001c7be4e$2ba4dde0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <468BBE1F.5040106@comcast.net> Paul Asgeirsson wrote: > Will your next Beemer be Chinese? > http://www.brillianceauto.com/brands/bmw.html Bejeing motor works? Nah, Bite My WANG :) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jul 4 10:20:14 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 09:20:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Article In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10707032248m1d35e3e7pd60d380919232fcf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > Penrite Long Life Inhibitor Plus It's very hard to get in this country. The only distributor is a guy in Texas who doesn't take credit cards, and he's very casual about substituting other Penrite products for those ordered. I ordered four bottles of Long Life Inhibitor Plus, and he sent me two bottles of it and two bottles of Vintage Car Coolant. BZ From pilotrob at msn.com Wed Jul 4 10:28:42 2007 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 16:28:42 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] [9issa] Article Message-ID: Distilled water for same reasons, Bob G. :) CapBob From cfchrist at earthlink.net Wed Jul 4 10:33:32 2007 From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 12:33:32 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [Spridgets] home from the hospital "experience"! Message-ID: <3769946.1183566812251.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net> well i'm home! got here yesterday. it was worse than they predicted and took a bit more work to fix me up inside. the surgeon found more wrong upon getting "inside"! i'm very very sore! my recliner is now my best friend! i tried sleeping in bed only to find itextremly uncomfortable in any position! it's going to be a short while before i can work on anything. right now getting in and out of a chair is a chore! i can not even imagine bending over a fender or getting on the floor and getting back up again! a happy 4th of july to those here in america! chuck. From dmg at bossig.com Wed Jul 4 11:05:38 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (dmg at bossig.com) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 10:05:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] home from the hospital "experience"! In-Reply-To: <3769946.1183566812251.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <3769946.1183566812251.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <468B70F2.29074.9C4E19@dmg.bossig.com> Chuck, Welcome back --- and just in time for the fourth!! Been through this twice myself (and a triple-bypass)... The only lesson I seem to have learnt is that my mind still thinks I'm 30 and my body just *knows* it's 110!! Take care... ;^D On 4 Jul 2007 at 0:00, charles christ wrote: >> it's going to be a short while before i can work on anything. right >> now getting in and out of a chair is a chore! i can not even >> imagine bending over a fender or getting on the floor and getting >> back up again! From thcollin at mtu.edu Wed Jul 4 11:07:07 2007 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:07:07 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] home from the hospital "experience"! In-Reply-To: <3769946.1183566812251.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.e arthlink.net> References: <3769946.1183566812251.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <60313l$cenf3@email.mtu.edu> At 12:33 PM 7/4/2007, charles christ wrote: > well i'm home! Your Dr. ever heard of Shipwright's disease? You must be the case that proves the theory! If your Dr. had ever restored a LBC, he/she would know it is always worse. Or, maybe you are British origin!! Do you leak? Take care & get well! Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jul 4 11:14:21 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 11:14:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Special for Frank C In-Reply-To: <008f01c7be4d$50542700$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <008f01c7be4d$50542700$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707041014v617f80aag63e43bf147560ad5@mail.gmail.com> Is it "Chery" because they can't say "Cheverolet"? Old Isuzu commercial reference. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jul 4 12:07:53 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 13:07:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Special for Frank C In-Reply-To: <008f01c7be4d$50542700$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <008f01c7be4d$50542700$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <43840a7e0707041107m47e622fdy64104c9d7052745f@mail.gmail.com> On 7/4/07, Paul Asgeirsson wrote: > said Chrysler Chairman and CEO Tom LaSorda. I was wondering what Tommy was doing these days since he quit managing the Dodgers in 1996! Chrysler, huh. He shoulda stayed in baseball! Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City From MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com Wed Jul 4 12:08:56 2007 From: MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com (MICHAEL CARPENTER) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 14:08:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Miss that is killing me References: <006a01c7bde6$87cb16b0$96aef904@D1PWFG61> <012301c7bdec$ce7bcd60$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <000701c7be66$6396d740$6af6f904@D1PWFG61> Hi Gang, David had it right. It had to do with the shutter of the XR700 and now that I corrected it, it is running fine! The shutter was actually not centered on the shaft and was going through an oblong ort of pattern. Thanks everyone for all of the excellent help and ideas. Cheers, Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "MICHAEL CARPENTER" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 11:38 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Miss that is killing me >> The photo optic shutter of the crane XR700 has to fire on number one if >> it is >> firing on 2,3, and 4. It is a simple mechanism. > > I do not know that this is a valid conclusion. Isn't there a separate slit > for > each cylinder? These have been known to rub on the "eye" and wear funny. > Likewise, a little debris in the right slot would do this. Pull that > shutter and > inspect it. I seem to recall that it can be put back on 90* rotated to see > if > that moves the problem to another cylinder, but it has been a long time > since > I have looked at one of these and I could be mistaken. Got a 25D to put in > as a test? > David Lieb From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Wed Jul 4 12:11:15 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 11:11:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] home from the hospital "experience"! References: <3769946.1183566812251.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <001301c7be66$b76771e0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Nice that all went well in the end and you're home again. Take good care of yourself, we need you here! Later, Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "charles christ" To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 9:33 AM Subject: [Spridgets] home from the hospital "experience"! > well i'm home! got here yesterday. it was worse than they > predicted and took a bit more work to fix me up inside. the > surgeon found more wrong upon getting "inside"! i'm very very > sore! my recliner is now my best friend! i tried sleeping in > bed only to find itextremly uncomfortable in any position! it's > going to be a short while before i can work on anything. right > now getting in and out of a chair is a chore! i can not even > imagine bending over a fender or getting on the floor and getting > back up again! > > a happy 4th of july to those here in america! > > chuck. > _______________________________________________ > pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From htpc2 at comcast.net Wed Jul 4 12:59:58 2007 From: htpc2 at comcast.net (Rick) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 13:59:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Clunk in rear References: <43840a7e0705231629l26fea4eamd8bd632408e43679@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <034a01c7be6d$861e64c0$6400a8c0@htpc> Hello list, long time no post.... My '65 Midget makes a light clunk in the left rear whenever the driveline goes from driving to coasting..... What should I look for? Thanks From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Wed Jul 4 13:11:55 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 12:11:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Article In-Reply-To: References: <2ad6c6b10707032248m1d35e3e7pd60d380919232fcf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Restoration Supply in Escondido, California is the only place in the U.S. to get Penrite products now. http://www.restorationstuff.com/ Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Billy Zoom >> Penrite Long Life Inhibitor Plus > It's very hard to get in this country. The only distributor is a guy in > Texas who doesn't take credit cards, and he's very casual about > substituting > other Penrite products for those ordered. I ordered four bottles of Long > Life Inhibitor Plus, and he sent me two bottles of it and two bottles of > Vintage Car Coolant. > BZ From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jul 4 13:34:30 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 14:34:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] home from the hospital "experience"! In-Reply-To: <001301c7be66$b76771e0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <3769946.1183566812251.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <001301c7be66$b76771e0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: HEY!! He didn't say WHERE they worked on him. Why must you assume that his doctor is a Proctologist??!!! On 7/4/07, Paul Asgeirsson wrote: > Nice that all went well in the end and you're home again. > > Take good care of yourself, we need you here! > > Later, Paul A > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "charles christ" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 9:33 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] home from the hospital "experience"! > > > > well i'm home! got here yesterday. it was worse than they > > predicted and took a bit more work to fix me up inside. the > > surgeon found more wrong upon getting "inside"! i'm very very > > sore! my recliner is now my best friend! i tried sleeping in > > bed only to find itextremly uncomfortable in any position! it's > > going to be a short while before i can work on anything. right > > now getting in and out of a chair is a chore! i can not even > > imagine bending over a fender or getting on the floor and getting > > back up again! > > > > a happy 4th of july to those here in america! > > > > chuck. > > _______________________________________________ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jul 4 14:03:30 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 15:03:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Article References: <2ad6c6b10707032248m1d35e3e7pd60d380919232fcf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <018d01c7be76$650763f0$0401a8c0@midget> >>> Penrite Long Life Inhibitor Plus I fail to understand why any of us would want to inhibit a long life... From jlaird237 at cox.net Wed Jul 4 14:58:13 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 15:58:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Clunk in rear References: <43840a7e0705231629l26fea4eamd8bd632408e43679@mail.gmail.com> <034a01c7be6d$861e64c0$6400a8c0@htpc> Message-ID: <003301c7be7e$0956f900$6401a8c0@personal> Universal. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 1:59 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Clunk in rear > Hello list, long time no post.... > > My '65 Midget makes a light clunk in the left rear whenever the driveline > goes from driving to coasting..... > > What should I look for? > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/885 - Release Date: 7/3/2007 > 10:02 AM From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jul 4 15:14:00 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 17:14:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Clunk in rear In-Reply-To: <034a01c7be6d$861e64c0$6400a8c0@htpc> References: <43840a7e0705231629l26fea4eamd8bd632408e43679@mail.gmail.com> <034a01c7be6d$861e64c0$6400a8c0@htpc> Message-ID: <468C0D98.3080402@comcast.net> Rick wrote: > Hello list, long time no post.... > > My '65 Midget makes a light clunk in the left rear whenever the driveline > goes from driving to coasting..... > > What should I look for? Broken (or loose) leaf spring. Bad universal. loose bolts at the driveshaft/diff. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From hal at katemuir.com Wed Jul 4 15:22:06 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 14:22:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Clunk in rear In-Reply-To: <003301c7be7e$0956f900$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: Don't know about the '65, which is half-elliptic, but with the quarter elliptics bushings in the rear suspension can cause that very symptom as well. Hal -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Jack Laird Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 1:58 PM To: Rick; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Clunk in rear Universal. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 1:59 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Clunk in rear > Hello list, long time no post.... > > My '65 Midget makes a light clunk in the left rear whenever the driveline > goes from driving to coasting..... From type79 at ix.netcom.com Wed Jul 4 15:44:17 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 17:44:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Clunk in rear Message-ID: <3691613.1183585457905.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I had a similar problem several years ago. I have a 61 Mk II with a 1275, cam, balanced, lightened flywheel ported and polished head (I'm including this detail to entertain Captain Bob or as freD would spell it "Bob"), ribcase,3.9 rear, wire wheels,(with new splined hubs). Each time I put it in reverse and backed-out of the garage (I guess that's the only way you can back a car out the garage.) I would hear a clunk, clunk. I couldn't figure it out. This went on for weeks. Finally, Celeste said something to me one day that solved not one but two problems. She asked: "Have you seen the cat?" :-/ I looked out in the driveway and responded to her "Yes I have." jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ "I feel the same way about disco as I do about herpes." Hunter S. Thompson -----Original Message----- >From: Hal Faulkner >Sent: Jul 4, 2007 5:22 PM >To: Jack Laird , Rick , Spridgets >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Clunk in rear > >Don't know about the '65, which is half-elliptic, but with the quarter >elliptics bushings in the rear suspension can cause that very symptom as >well. > >Hal From wbmcleod at cox.net Wed Jul 4 16:10:31 2007 From: wbmcleod at cox.net (William McLeod) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:10:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] MGB Message-ID: <468C1AD7.5050001@cox.net> Would Arundell from Australia contact me please? My ISP managed to delete my entire email history, including mail about a 1980 MGB. Thanks, Bill, Tucson, AZ From RobertDuquette at Sympatico.ca Wed Jul 4 16:43:54 2007 From: RobertDuquette at Sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 18:43:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Clunk in rear In-Reply-To: <3691613.1183585457905.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <3691613.1183585457905.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <019f01c7be8c$cd2e7020$6601a8c0@RobertDuquette> And you never got that sound going back in? -----Original Message----- Each time I put it in reverse and backed-out of the garage (I guess that's the only way you can back a car out the garage.) I would hear a clunk, clunk. I couldn't figure it out. This went on for weeks. Finally, Celeste said something to me one day that solved not one but two problems. She asked: "Have you seen the cat?" :-/ I looked out in the driveway and responded to her "Yes I have." jay fishbein From gjbranch at comcast.net Wed Jul 4 16:48:22 2007 From: gjbranch at comcast.net (Geoff Branch) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 18:48:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Clunk in rear References: <43840a7e0705231629l26fea4eamd8bd632408e43679@mail.gmail.com> <034a01c7be6d$861e64c0$6400a8c0@htpc> Message-ID: <02ae01c7be8d$6d63ed40$0301a8c0@DELL> Wire wheels? Check hubs and wheels. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 2:59 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Clunk in rear > Hello list, long time no post.... > > My '65 Midget makes a light clunk in the left rear whenever the driveline > goes from driving to coasting..... > > What should I look for? > > Thanks From dmg at bossig.com Wed Jul 4 17:22:43 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (dmg at bossig.com) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 16:22:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] fuel line clips... Message-ID: <468BC953.27815.1F5896E@dmg.bossig.com> I need the clips that keep the fuel line held to the body from the back up to the engine compartment. My fuel line is not secured anywhere and is hanging down. Bad News! They do not appear to be in the Moss catalogue. VB shows a clip that appears to need a hole in the underbody. Before I order some of these, is there a clip from someone like NAPA that would do the job?? Or has someone found a better way to do this?? I'm not interested in originality but in safety... TIA Dave G. From dmg at bossig.com Wed Jul 4 17:28:15 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 16:28:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] fuel line clips... Message-ID: <468BCA9F.31945.1FA9935@dmg.bossig.com> I need the clips that keep the fuel line heldto the body from the back to the front, my fuel line is not secured anywhere and is hanging down. They do not appear to be in the Moss catalogue. VB shows a clip that appears to need a hole to be drilled in the underbody. Before I order some of these, is there a clip from someone like NAPA that would do the job?? Ford, GM, ?? Or has someone found a better way to do this?? I'm not interested in originality but in safety... TIA - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From duncan at pondhop.com Wed Jul 4 17:36:52 2007 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 18:36:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] fuel line clips... In-Reply-To: <468BC953.27815.1F5896E@dmg.bossig.com> References: <468BC953.27815.1F5896E@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <00a001c7be94$33703f60$9a50be20$@com> I used a combination of 1/4" rubber lined P-clips from the hardware store with sheet metal screws below the box section areas. The seat strengthening rails have holes in the sides and I used tie wraps for that area. Duncan -----Original Message----- From: dmg at bossig.com [mailto:dmg at bossig.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 6:23 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] fuel line clips... I need the clips that keep the fuel line held to the body from the back up to the engine compartment. My fuel line is not secured anywhere and is hanging down. Bad News! They do not appear to be in the Moss catalogue. VB shows a clip that appears to need a hole in the underbody. Before I order some of these, is there a clip from someone like NAPA that would do the job?? Or has someone found a better way to do this?? I'm not interested in originality but in safety... TIA Dave G. _______________________________________________ duncan at pondhop.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Wed Jul 4 18:34:20 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 17:34:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Clunk in rear Message-ID: <200707050034.l650YKJk002187@lymeon.ucdavis.edu> U-Joint. also when you shift from backing up to going forward?? Glen Byrns > Hello list, long time no post.... > > My '65 Midget makes a light clunk in the left rear whenever the driveline > > goes from driving to coasting..... > > What should I look for? From wsthompson at thicko.com Wed Jul 4 19:22:56 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (W, Severin Thompson) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 20:22:56 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spridgets] no lbc...usb tv tuner question In-Reply-To: <00a001c7be94$33703f60$9a50be20$@com> References: <468BC953.27815.1F5896E@dmg.bossig.com> <00a001c7be94$33703f60$9a50be20$@com> Message-ID: <1179.24.196.159.179.1183598576.squirrel@www.thicko.com> Just got a slide in camper for the Dodge dually for race weekends. I'm shopping for usb hdtv tuners for a laptop computer for a portable television solution. Anyone have any personal experience with any of the hd solutions? WST From pythias at pacifier.com Wed Jul 4 19:32:04 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 18:32:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Miss that is killing me In-Reply-To: <000701c7be66$6396d740$6af6f904@D1PWFG61> References: <006a01c7bde6$87cb16b0$96aef904@D1PWFG61> <012301c7bdec$ce7bcd60$0401a8c0@midget> <000701c7be66$6396d740$6af6f904@D1PWFG61> Message-ID: <63241216.20070704183204@pacifier.com> Hello MICHAEL, now that you have it all sorted out, SEND IT TO ME! send it for FREE. the new ones work on positive or negative ground. mine is positive only, and i'm about ready to make the change to negative, having won on ebay a gauge set from a later car, (i also get the 3.9 rated speedo so i can make that change too!).. so you see, now that you have your car sorted you can send me crane with a clear conscience... i'll send you my mailing address off the list... hey THANX!!!! LOLOLOLLOLOL! -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jul 4 20:03:15 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 22:03:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] fuel line clips... In-Reply-To: <468BC953.27815.1F5896E@dmg.bossig.com> References: <468BC953.27815.1F5896E@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <468C5163.1040101@comcast.net> dmg at bossig.com wrote: > I need the clips I did find them somewhere but they are junk, they bend like they were made in china. So I just drilled some small holes in the frame rail and used zip ties. Same with along the stiffener under the floor where they used hair pins. The new ones are junk so I just zip tied the fuel and brake pipe to the stiffener. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From froggi60 at gmail.com Wed Jul 4 22:57:53 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 21:57:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] home from the hospital "experience"! In-Reply-To: <3769946.1183566812251.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <3769946.1183566812251.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10707042157w44be3054i471ba496969dba47@mail.gmail.com> Chuck, When you feel as if you can't do even one more of what is required in rehab...do two. Read THEE book. Herb From froggi60 at gmail.com Wed Jul 4 23:03:12 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 22:03:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Happy 4th Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10707042203w4e3fda5ar6b33145d52429b3f@mail.gmail.com> http://www.jacquielawson.com/viewcard.asp?code=1233690241993&source=jl999 From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jul 4 23:35:00 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 00:35:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Clunk in rear In-Reply-To: <200707050034.l650YKJk002187@lymeon.ucdavis.edu> References: <200707050034.l650YKJk002187@lymeon.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <43840a7e0707042235v57eca3e8qf57215c6e966c414@mail.gmail.com> Glen et al... FWIW, Mine did this before I replaced the drive shaft and U-joints. It also does it afterward - no change. Not saying his problem *isn't* U-Joints - just that there must be other things that cause that problem as in the three items Frank mentions... Spring shackles also came to my mind and I will be checking them soon. Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City On 7/4/07, Glen Byrns wrote: > U-Joint. > also when you shift from backing up to going forward?? > > Glen Byrns > > > Hello list, long time no post.... > > > > My '65 Midget makes a light clunk in the left rear whenever the > driveline > > > > goes from driving to coasting..... > > > > What should I look for? > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From pilotrob at webtv.net Wed Jul 4 23:52:12 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 05:52:12 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] home from the hospital "experience"! Message-ID: See it as "vacation" time, Chuck. Take it EASY and feel/get well sooner! :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jul 5 04:52:48 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 05:52:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] fuel line clips... References: <468BC953.27815.1F5896E@dmg.bossig.com> <468C5163.1040101@comcast.net> Message-ID: <01ed01c7bef2$a10bd9e0$0401a8c0@midget> > Same with along the stiffener under the floor where they used hair pins. > The new ones are junk so I just zip tied the fuel and brake pipe to the > stiffener. Speaking of zip ties, I know that the phone company around here (AT&T this week) uses some very nice nylon zip ties with a metal locking tongue that work well and don't break. All I seem to find for sale are cheap garbage. Anybody have a good source for the good ones? David Lieb From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Thu Jul 5 05:11:33 2007 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 07:11:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] fuel line clips... In-Reply-To: <01ed01c7bef2$a10bd9e0$0401a8c0@midget> References: <468BC953.27815.1F5896E@dmg.bossig.com> <468C5163.1040101@comcast.net> <01ed01c7bef2$a10bd9e0$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070705070555.0480bf28@littlebitcountry.com> http://www.tnb.com/ps/endeca/index.cgi?co=US&lang=en&a=nav&N=511 T&B or Thomas & Betts You normally find them at an electrical wholesaler or a phone guy will give you a few if you ask real nice, and he always has an assortment of sizes. Dave At 06:52 AM 7/5/2007, you wrote: > > Same with along the stiffener under the floor where they used hair pins. > > The new ones are junk so I just zip tied the fuel and brake pipe to the > > stiffener. > >Speaking of zip ties, I know that the phone company around here (AT&T this >week) uses some very nice nylon zip ties with a metal locking tongue that >work well and don't break. All I seem to find for sale are cheap garbage. >Anybody have a good source for the good ones? >David Lieb From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Thu Jul 5 05:18:39 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 07:18:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] home from the hospital "experience"! In-Reply-To: <3769946.1183566812251.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <3769946.1183566812251.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Hey chuck, I know you heard I am moving again, this is the worst way to get out of moving a couch!! Stay home, get better, catch up on your reading, see ya out and about when you are healthy!! Larry On Jul 4, 2007, at 12:33 PM, charles christ wrote: > well i'm home! got here yesterday. it was worse than > they > predicted and took a bit more work to fix me up inside. > the > surgeon found more wrong upon getting "inside"! i'm very > very > sore! my recliner is now my best friend! i tried sleeping > in > bed only to find itextremly uncomfortable in any position! > it's > going to be a short while before i can work on anything. > right > now getting in and out of a chair is a chore! i can not > even > imagine bending over a fender or getting on the floor and > getting > back up again! > > a happy 4th of july to those here in america! > > chuck. > _______________________________________________ > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Thu Jul 5 05:39:56 2007 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 07:39:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Miss that is killing me Message-ID: <30774898.1183635596521.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hi Bill, I am really quite pleased with the set-up (red LED) and the way the 948 ran after I got the shutter on correctly. I think that they are money well spent. I use to have one on another Bugeye that I had. It was not the fireball version but the one that was gold anodized in color. It worked for many years and I think that my spark plugs burn cleaner with the electronic ignition. Cheers, Mike -----Original Message----- >From: Bill L >Sent: Jul 4, 2007 9:32 PM >To: MICHAEL CARPENTER >Cc: Spridgets >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Miss that is killing me > >Hello MICHAEL, > > now that you have it all sorted out, SEND IT TO ME! send it for > FREE. the new ones work on positive or negative ground. mine is > positive only, and i'm about ready to make the change to > negative, having won on ebay a gauge set from a later car, (i > also get the 3.9 rated speedo so i can make that change too!).. > so you see, now that you have your car sorted you can send me > crane with a clear conscience... i'll send you my mailing > address off the list... hey THANX!!!! > > LOLOLOLLOLOL! > > > > >-- >Best regards, > Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > "66 Sprite >_______________________________________________ > ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jul 5 06:21:22 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 07:21:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] fuel line clips... References: <468BC953.27815.1F5896E@dmg.bossig.com><468C5163.1040101@comcast.net> <01ed01c7bef2$a10bd9e0$0401a8c0@midget> <7.0.1.0.2.20070705070555.0480bf28@littlebitcountry.com> Message-ID: <020001c7beff$013f6be0$0401a8c0@midget> > http://www.tnb.com/ps/endeca/index.cgi?co=US&lang=en&a=nav&N=511 > T&B or Thomas & Betts > You normally find them at an electrical wholesaler or a phone guy > will give you a few if you ask real nice, and he always has an > assortment of sizes. Thanks, just what I was looking for. Yes, phone guys have been generous in the past, but they have no idea where to get them and I don't like begging. Now all I have to do is find a distributor... David Lieb From bogodwin at bellsouth.net Thu Jul 5 06:57:34 2007 From: bogodwin at bellsouth.net (Bobby Godwin) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 08:57:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Clunk in rear In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0707042235v57eca3e8qf57215c6e966c414@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: My Bug Eye had a noise like that and it was the Spring shackles, or, to be more exact, the rubber grommets in the spring shackles. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Jim Johnson Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 1:35 AM To: Glen Byrns Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Clunk in rear Glen et al... FWIW, Mine did this before I replaced the drive shaft and U-joints. It also does it afterward - no change. Not saying his problem *isn't* U-Joints - just that there must be other things that cause that problem as in the three items Frank mentions... Spring shackles also came to my mind and I will be checking them soon. Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City On 7/4/07, Glen Byrns wrote: > U-Joint. > also when you shift from backing up to going forward?? > > Glen Byrns > > > Hello list, long time no post.... > > > > My '65 Midget makes a light clunk in the left rear whenever the > driveline > > > > goes from driving to coasting..... > > > > What should I look for? > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) _______________________________________________ bogodwin at bellsouth.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/885 - Release Date: 7/3/2007 10:02 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/885 - Release Date: 7/3/2007 10:02 AM From jlaird237 at cox.net Thu Jul 5 08:32:58 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 09:32:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Clunk in rear References: <200707050034.l650YKJk002187@lymeon.ucdavis.edu> <43840a7e0707042235v57eca3e8qf57215c6e966c414@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000801c7bf11$623aabf0$6401a8c0@personal> How about a loose shock. Was my clunk. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" To: "Glen Byrns" Cc: Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 12:35 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Clunk in rear > Glen et al... > > FWIW, Mine did this before I replaced the drive shaft and U-joints. > It also does it afterward - no change. Not saying his problem *isn't* > U-Joints - just that there must be other things that cause that > problem as in the three items Frank mentions... Spring shackles also > came to my mind and I will be checking them soon. > > Cheers!! > Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City > > On 7/4/07, Glen Byrns wrote: >> U-Joint. >> also when you shift from backing up to going forward?? >> >> Glen Byrns >> >> > Hello list, long time no post.... >> > >> > My '65 Midget makes a light clunk in the left rear whenever the >> driveline >> > >> > goes from driving to coasting..... >> > >> > What should I look for? >> _______________________________________________ >> bmwwxman at gmail.com >> >> Edit your replies >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > > > -- > The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to > fill the world with fools. > -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/885 - Release Date: 7/3/2007 > 10:02 AM From lists at woozy.com Thu Jul 5 10:13:11 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 12:13:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Seat Covers to cool down hot seats? In-Reply-To: <000801c7bf11$623aabf0$6401a8c0@personal> References: <200707050034.l650YKJk002187@lymeon.ucdavis.edu> <43840a7e0707042235v57eca3e8qf57215c6e966c414@mail.gmail.com> <000801c7bf11$623aabf0$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: <468D1897.4060401@woozy.com> Is anyone using any sort of a seat cover (sheep skin, synthetic, beaded, etc. ) in their Spridgets to keep their seats cool? My black seats get awful hot here in the summer. Any recommendations or things to steer clear of? I was thinking of getting some sheep skin covers but I imagine most of them are made for larger seats. Thanks, Robert From banjojohn at cox.net Thu Jul 5 10:26:37 2007 From: banjojohn at cox.net (banjojohn at cox.net) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 12:26:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Clunk in rear Message-ID: <26291290.1183652797566.JavaMail.root@eastrmwml26.mgt.cox.net> Have you ruled out something rolling around in the trunk? John ---- Rick wrote: > Hello list, long time no post.... > > My '65 Midget makes a light clunk in the left rear whenever the driveline > goes from driving to coasting..... > > What should I look for? > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > banjojohn at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jul 5 10:30:36 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 11:30:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Clunk in rear References: <26291290.1183652797566.JavaMail.root@eastrmwml26.mgt.cox.net> Message-ID: <002401c7bf21$d1e80be0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Have you ruled out something rolling around in the trunk? Hey, it's not as if it were a Bugeye... you can generally count on there being a flashlight rolling around in the back of those. Please note, the proper definition of "flashlight" is "a case for the storage of dead batteries." David From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu Jul 5 10:32:52 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 12:32:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Article In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10707032248m1d35e3e7pd60d380919232fcf@mail.gmail.com> References: <2ad6c6b10707032248m1d35e3e7pd60d380919232fcf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Wait! I thought we were adding dish washing liquid. Is everybody going back to Water Wetter???? -----Original Message----- From: WFO Herb [mailto:froggi60 at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 1:49 AM To: Ed's Spridgeteers; Spridgeteers Subject: [Spridgets] Article What to put (or not) in your radiator. http://www.spriteparts.com.au/radiatorfluid.htm I found this interesting, hope you do as well. Herb From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jul 5 11:41:27 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 13:41:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Article Message-ID: <20070705174127.DYTF3229.tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> I'll NEVER go back to using Water Wetter to do dishes!! ;) > From: "Deikis, John G" > > Wait! I thought we were adding dish washing liquid. > Is everybody going back to Water Wetter???? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: WFO Herb [mailto:froggi60 at gmail.com] > > What to put (or not) in your radiator. > > http://www.spriteparts.com.au/radiatorfluid.htm > > I found this interesting, hope you do as well. > > Herb From banjojohn at cox.net Thu Jul 5 12:30:10 2007 From: banjojohn at cox.net (banjojohn at cox.net) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 14:30:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires - reporting back Message-ID: <23818584.1183660210227.JavaMail.root@eastrmwml26.mgt.cox.net> Hi Listers: After my last post looking for opinions on tires for the bugeye, someone steered me to Tires Unlimited. (NFI) After talking to a rep. there, I ordered 4 Marangoni 165/70/TR13 tires. The diameter is alsmost exactly the same as the 145/80 13's but with a wider tread. I am running them on a Minlite style 5" rim. No rubbing on the wheel arches, even in a hard bump, and no rubbing inside the rear wheel well. I put them on earlier this week, and so far I love them. Nice handling and ride. and the price was great at under $27.00 each. Of course I had to have them mounted and balanced locally, but even with that and the shipping, I put 4 new tires on for less than I was contemplating spending for 2 Bridgestone tires for the front. I just thought I'd share this with the list. No Financial Interest. John O'Brien '61 Bugeye '65 BJ8 From type79 at ix.netcom.com Thu Jul 5 13:51:43 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (Jay Fishbein) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:51:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Rubber Mats Message-ID: <468D4BCF.3030505@ix.netcom.com> If anyone is tired of the carpet in their Bugeye, or Frogeye, here's a chance to put some rubber down. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330142449352 item #330142449352 -- jay fishbein wallingford, CT http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ "America... just a nation of two hundred million used car salesmen with all the money we need to buy guns and no qualms about killing anybody else in the world who tries to make us uncomfortable." Hunter S. Thompson From redmidget72 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 5 14:39:55 2007 From: redmidget72 at yahoo.com (Red Midget) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 13:39:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] ***1972 Midget For Sale*** Message-ID: <20070705203955.94409.qmail@web51907.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Calling all Spridgeteers: OK 'all, come on down and take a look, make a strong offer quickly before I change my mind again! Go see the photos at the following link. http://rides.webshots.com/album/559406907rrAaLk?vhost=rides 1972 round wheel arch Midget FSBO. Sound body, driver and passenger footwells had rusted and were repaired with fiberglass. The rest of the body is mostly rust free. Most of the original parts are on, or come with the car. All brake components have been replaced or repaired. Front end has been rebuilt, Shocks are rebuilt, Rear springs have been replaced, (still has the driver side sag). New top, rebuilt radiator, new hoses, new carbs with short air rams under the K+N chrome filter housings, pertronics dizzy, CD FM stereo in the radio console, custom center console (easy removal, orig ash tray included) MotoLita steering wheel (orig wheel available). The car is in Oak Ridge, Tennessee real near a couple of you listers out there. Bring your trailer and take Bobbie MG to her new home. She has been sitting for a couple of years; the motor will run, but the clutch is either stuck or the slave has crapped out. Write to me here and or at lonbird at hotmail.com If you send your phone number I will call and we can set up a viewing for this weekend. PLEASE DON"T LET HER GET PARTED OUT ON EBAY! Thanks, Lon --------------------------------- Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. From duncan at pondhop.com Thu Jul 5 15:34:34 2007 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 16:34:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] fuel line clips... In-Reply-To: <01ed01c7bef2$a10bd9e0$0401a8c0@midget> References: <468BC953.27815.1F5896E@dmg.bossig.com> <468C5163.1040101@comcast.net> <01ed01c7bef2$a10bd9e0$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <004301c7bf4c$47bee120$d73ca360$@com> David, Try Newark for these Panduit ties. They are industrial use and what we most commonly use in industrial control panels. http://tinyurl.com/2gv2ad Duncan -----Original Message----- From: David Lieb [mailto:dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 5:53 AM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] fuel line clips... > Same with along the stiffener under the floor where they used hair pins. > The new ones are junk so I just zip tied the fuel and brake pipe to the > stiffener. Speaking of zip ties, I know that the phone company around here (AT&T this week) uses some very nice nylon zip ties with a metal locking tongue that work well and don't break. All I seem to find for sale are cheap garbage. Anybody have a good source for the good ones? David Lieb _______________________________________________ duncan at pondhop.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jul 5 16:22:47 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 17:22:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Article In-Reply-To: <20070705174127.DYTF3229.tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20070705174127.DYTF3229.tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <43840a7e0707051522o47261d10g44fe6e232e4864f2@mail.gmail.com> You doing dishes? Apron strings getting a little tight, Robert? ;-) John - I thought it was well established that Water Wetter is nothing more than liquid dish soap.... Am I *all WET*? (Again?) Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City On 7/5/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > I'll NEVER go back to using Water Wetter to do dishes!! ;) > > > From: "Deikis, John G" > > > > Wait! I thought we were adding dish washing liquid. > > Is everybody going back to Water Wetter???? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: WFO Herb [mailto:froggi60 at gmail.com] > > > > What to put (or not) in your radiator. > > > > http://www.spriteparts.com.au/radiatorfluid.htm > > > > I found this interesting, hope you do as well. From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Thu Jul 5 17:53:21 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 19:53:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Seat Covers to cool down hot seats? In-Reply-To: <468D1897.4060401@woozy.com> References: <200707050034.l650YKJk002187@lymeon.ucdavis.edu> <43840a7e0707042235v57eca3e8qf57215c6e966c414@mail.gmail.com> <000801c7bf11$623aabf0$6401a8c0@personal> <468D1897.4060401@woozy.com> Message-ID: <5E43523A-8665-4171-955D-AC731997425C@phillymgclub.com> Bucket of water over the head?? Just trying to be helpful and save you a buck or 2. Larry On Jul 5, 2007, at 12:13 PM, Robert Weeks wrote: > Is anyone using any sort of a seat cover (sheep skin, synthetic, > beaded, > etc. ) in their Spridgets to keep their seats cool? My black seats get > awful hot here in the summer. > > Any recommendations or things to steer clear of? I was thinking of > getting some sheep skin covers but I imagine most of them are made for > larger seats. > > Thanks, > > Robert > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From hal at katemuir.com Thu Jul 5 18:06:17 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 17:06:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bearing crush actual LBC content. Message-ID: Spridgeteers. Building up my 1275 slowly but surely. Checked main bearing crush today before it became too hot in the garage. The front and center main were at 4 thousandths. The rear was a tight 3 thou. Is this sufficient? Do I need to speak to my machinist? Should I buy a pozidriv adapter for the torque wrench? (sorry, I couldn't resist.....) From redmidget72 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 5 18:32:33 2007 From: redmidget72 at yahoo.com (Red Midget) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 17:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Seat Covers to cool down hot seats? In-Reply-To: <5E43523A-8665-4171-955D-AC731997425C@phillymgclub.com> Message-ID: <526784.3956.qm@web51906.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Try the beaded seat cover deals like the cabbies use. They allow circulation of air while giving your yush a massage. Seriously they work. > Is anyone using any sort of a seat cover (sheep skin, synthetic, > beaded, > etc. ) in their Spridgets to keep their seats cool? My black seats get > awful hot here in the summer. > > Any recommendations or things to steer clear of? I was thinking of > getting some sheep skin covers but I imagine most of them are made for > larger seats. > > Thanks, > > Robert > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ redmidget72 at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jul 5 19:56:57 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 20:56:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] HIF-44 leaking fuel Message-ID: <43840a7e0707051856k40ddc168jbeb6d1ea95822c29@mail.gmail.com> 68 Midget with 1275 and HIF44 carb..... Any HIF-44 wizards out there? There's a nearby car show come Saturday I was thinking of taking the Midget to. I went out to the garage, checked the usual items (oil, water, battery, etc), started it up and drove it around a bit to circulate the oil for a re-check. About a mile from the house it started gagging when I gave it gas. It would work - sort of - if I left the choke out but I really struggled getting it home under its own power. Fuel starvation?? Popped the bonnet and topped the dash pot on the single HIF-44 as it was low. Runs better now and accelerates okay but not like it should. Then I noticed gas pouring out of the HIF44!! Right onto a hot exhaust!! Shut it down - gas stops leaking. Start it back up - gas pours out again! WTF?? Something stuck inside the carb?? I pulled the K&N filter and all appears normal with the piston but gas leaks whenever the engine is running. What can you tell me about the HIF44? I don't have any info on it - it came on the car. Does it have a float and float needle? If so I would suspect the needle valve not seating when the float bowl fills. I will pull the carb tomorrow and see if there is anything obvious. Dontcha know this kinda thing happens just when I have it all cleaned up and ready to show off!! That's an LBC thing, isn't it? Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City From jlaird237 at cox.net Thu Jul 5 20:04:55 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 21:04:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] HIF-44 leaking fuel References: <43840a7e0707051856k40ddc168jbeb6d1ea95822c29@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000401c7bf72$0c5ae950$6401a8c0@personal> You have a stuck float valve Jim. It is stuck open I think. Tis overfilling and fuel is going out the bypass. Never seen a HIF44 but........... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" To: "Spridgets" ; "Yahoo Spridget list" Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 8:56 PM Subject: [Spridgets] HIF-44 leaking fuel > 68 Midget with 1275 and HIF44 carb..... > > Any HIF-44 wizards out there? There's a nearby car show come Saturday > I was thinking of taking the Midget to. I went out to the garage, > checked the usual items (oil, water, battery, etc), started it up and > drove it around a bit to circulate the oil for a re-check. About a > mile from the house it started gagging when I gave it gas. It would > work - sort of - if I left the choke out but I really struggled > getting it home under its own power. Fuel starvation?? > > Popped the bonnet and topped the dash pot on the single HIF-44 as it > was low. Runs better now and accelerates okay but not like it should. > Then I noticed gas pouring out of the HIF44!! Right onto a hot > exhaust!! Shut it down - gas stops leaking. Start it back up - gas > pours out again! WTF?? Something stuck inside the carb?? I pulled > the K&N filter and all appears normal with the piston but gas leaks > whenever the engine is running. > > What can you tell me about the HIF44? I don't have any info on it - > it came on the car. Does it have a float and float needle? If so I > would suspect the needle valve not seating when the float bowl fills. > I will pull the carb tomorrow and see if there is anything obvious. > > Dontcha know this kinda thing happens just when I have it all cleaned > up and ready to show off!! That's an LBC thing, isn't it? > > Cheers!! > Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/885 - Release Date: 7/3/2007 > 10:02 AM From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jul 5 20:30:02 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 22:30:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] HIF-44 leaking fuel In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0707051856k40ddc168jbeb6d1ea95822c29@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0707051856k40ddc168jbeb6d1ea95822c29@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <468DA92A.5070402@comcast.net> Jim Johnson wrote: > 68 Midget with 1275 and HIF44 carb..... Jim The float is stuck, sort of like HS carbs but you have to take it off, turn it over, remove 4 screws and probably just wiggle it a bit. If it has sat a while, the needle is just gummed up. Jrs Mini did the same thing a while back after sitting most of the winter. Gas dried up in the bowl and left the needle stuck. Do be careful with the float screw, it screws in from the side and can be bent real easy if you don't have it lined up right. Ask me how I know? ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Jul 5 20:52:43 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 19:52:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 45 DCOE FS Message-ID: <271328.78790.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I've been on list for 10 yrs, never sold anything, so allow me a brief Derf moment... I'm about to leave for vacation (which is a ruse to putter along the beach in my Florida Midget for 2 weeks). Whens I get back, I'm going to part with one of my Weber setups. It's been on my Streetcar for 2 years. It is a 45 DCOE perfectly tuned for a 1275 with a Maniflow 4 inch intake (this is a goooood manifold; I experimented with a bunch, and the Maniflow was 2nd best to the 6" minispares after I worked it a bit; but the 6" won't fit the streetcar). I use a 23D, so no holes have been drilled for vac advance. The engine is tight, but I would be happy to put in ports for PCV. I even may have a valve you can use (Chrysler K Car). The carb is completely jetted, throttle setup and cable included, velocity stacks. It's ready to bolt on a 1275 with a street or hot street setup. I can jet it decently for race if you can tell me compression, head numbers, etc. Bolt it on and go fast. The carb itself is 2 years old, gotten out of true Spanish weber stock before the strike got in full swing. It looks and acts new, except the jetting is better. People talk quality and buy price and are disappointed, THis is quality, it won't be cheap but it will be worth it @ $675 delivered in USA. Muse on it for a few days, let me know... Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jul 5 20:58:04 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 20:58:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] HIF-44 leaking fuel In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0707051856k40ddc168jbeb6d1ea95822c29@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0707051856k40ddc168jbeb6d1ea95822c29@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707051958h25686e5fo77d5ee93d94d1ffb@mail.gmail.com> Yep, there is a float in there that goes around the jet in the middle. The Haynes Techbook "Weber Carburetor Manual" has excellent information on Webers, ZS carbs, and SUs, including H, HS, and HIF models. It is a good book to have IMHO. http://www.amazon.com/Haynes-Zenith-Stromberg-Carburetor-Manuals/dp/156392157X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-6660655-8509449?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1183690606&sr=1-1 I'm cheap (We tite?) so I click on the "7 used and new available from $11.95" Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jul 5 21:02:21 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 21:02:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 45 DCOE FS In-Reply-To: <271328.78790.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <271328.78790.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707052002i13f21888ge3ee84df750b9f27@mail.gmail.com> I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny? On 7/5/07, Ron Soave wrote: > I've been on list for 10 yrs, never sold anything, so > allow me a brief Derf moment... From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jul 5 21:04:17 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 21:04:17 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Clunk in rear In-Reply-To: <002401c7bf21$d1e80be0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <26291290.1183652797566.JavaMail.root@eastrmwml26.mgt.cox.net> <002401c7bf21$d1e80be0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707052004i4afdf378r31d9bbe7f01dceca@mail.gmail.com> Torch is the proper English term. Get a new LED Maglight torch and you won't have as many dead batteries. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jul 5 21:06:44 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 21:06:44 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bearing crush actual LBC content. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910707052006g63e2736bq203edd7c4a8ac724@mail.gmail.com> Yes. No. Yes. No. Wait, I meant. No. Yes. No. Yes. Wait, oh, shoot, I dunno. From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Thu Jul 5 21:07:38 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 22:07:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 45 DCOE FS References: <271328.78790.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5f00d9910707052002i13f21888ge3ee84df750b9f27@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <02f301c7bf7a$cf6d4a70$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> You AIN'T nor do you make the MONEY, Derf!!! LOL From dmg at bossig.com Thu Jul 5 23:03:19 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 22:03:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Short dumb diff question.. Message-ID: <468D6AA7.11480.34BE049@dmg.bossig.com> Am I correct in assuming thagt it dioesn't matter which side of the diff is right and which is left?? In other words, does it matter which way up the pumpkin is?? I'd like to mount a 3.9 so that the ratio stamp can be seen from underneath Thanks - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Fri Jul 6 00:36:49 2007 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 16:36:49 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] what bolt is it? Message-ID: <384173.8415.qm@web50606.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Can someone please tell me what type of bolt holds the pressure plate assy to the flywheel on a 1275? thanks in advance Andy Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Fri Jul 6 00:41:25 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 23:41:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Short dumb diff question.. References: <468D6AA7.11480.34BE049@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <004601c7bf98$ad842000$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Methinks you'll need a new gearbox with 4 speed reverse on it. Otherwise you can go really fast backwards!! Have you considered stamping the numbers on the bottom, leaving it in place as it sets? Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G." To: Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 10:03 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Short dumb diff question.. > Am I correct in assuming thagt it dioesn't matter which side of the diff is right > and which is left?? > In other words, does it matter which way up the pumpkin is?? I'd like to > mount a 3.9 so that the ratio stamp can be seen from underneath > > Thanks > > - > Dave G > '65 MKIII Sprite > _______________________________________________ > pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Fri Jul 6 00:51:24 2007 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 16:51:24 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Short dumb diff question.. In-Reply-To: <004601c7bf98$ad842000$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <641264.63416.qm@web50609.mail.re2.yahoo.com> thats been done...well sort of... http://www.uniquecarsandparts.com.au/car_info_lightburn_zeta.htm 2 stroke engine spun both ways... Paul Asgeirsson wrote: Methinks you'll need a new gearbox with 4 speed reverse on it. Otherwise you can go really fast backwards!! --------------------------------- Yahoo!7 Mail has just got even bigger and better with unlimited storage on all webmail accounts. Find out more. From grday at btinternet.com Fri Jul 6 02:55:41 2007 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 09:55:41 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Clunk in rear References: <26291290.1183652797566.JavaMail.root@eastrmwml26.mgt.cox.net><002401c7bf21$d1e80be0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <5f00d9910707052004i4afdf378r31d9bbe7f01dceca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <006c01c7bfab$6e734770$aa178656@tairswork> Get one of the wind-up LED ones. There is no replacement battery to go dead. I've now bought 12 of them because people 'borrow' them! ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "Spridget List" Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 4:04 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Clunk in rear > Torch is the proper English term. Get a new LED Maglight torch and > you won't have as many dead batteries. > _______________________________________________ > grday at btinternet.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From CAWS52803 at aol.com Fri Jul 6 04:19:03 2007 From: CAWS52803 at aol.com (CAWS52803 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 06:19:03 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Seat Covers to cool down hot seats? Message-ID: Since I have had my car for 30 years, it must be at least 20 since I bought a generic slip cover for the seats. It was a Wal-Mart or K-Mart store and they work well and slip off for washing real easily. Hardest part is finding one that doesn't allow for head rests, but I guess you could fold over that extra piece. Rudy Streng Lenoir, NC ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. From jax2a at hotmail.com Fri Jul 6 05:33:51 2007 From: jax2a at hotmail.com (Peej Noggin) Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 07:33:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Seat Covers to cool down hot seats? (Robert Weeks) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: While driving or to keep the seats from heating up while parked? My dad uses Grant Sport Shield seat covers on his Vette. They can be slipped over the seats quickly when you park and roll up pretty small when you don't need them. He puts them on the seats when it's going to be parked in the sun a while, protects them and keeps them from getting hot. Jack >From: Robert Weeks >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: [Spridgets] Seat Covers to cool down hot seats? >Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 12:13:11 -0400 >Is anyone using any sort of a seat cover (sheep skin, synthetic, beaded, >etc. ) in their Spridgets to keep their seats cool? My black seats get >awful hot here in the summer. > >Any recommendations or things to steer clear of? I was thinking of getting >some sheep skin covers but I imagine most of them are made for larger >seats. > >Thanks, > >Robert _________________________________________________________________ http://liveearth.msn.com From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Fri Jul 6 06:32:50 2007 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 08:32:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] what bolt is it? Message-ID: <4885778.1183725170878.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I think that it is simply a grade 8 that you can buy at any decent hardware store. Mike -----Original Message----- >From: Andy Webster >Sent: Jul 6, 2007 2:36 AM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: [Spridgets] what bolt is it? > >Can someone please tell me what type of bolt holds the pressure plate assy to the flywheel on a 1275? > thanks in advance > Andy > > > ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From jlaird237 at cox.net Fri Jul 6 06:40:45 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 07:40:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Short dumb diff question.. References: <468D6AA7.11480.34BE049@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <000701c7bfca$df6f2290$6401a8c0@personal> Don't think it will go that way. Do as we do with our 7 different ones for the race car. Paint it on the outside in yellow. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G." To: Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 12:03 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Short dumb diff question.. > Am I correct in assuming thagt it dioesn't matter which side of the diff > is right > and which is left?? > In other words, does it matter which way up the pumpkin is?? I'd like to > mount a 3.9 so that the ratio stamp can be seen from underneath > > Thanks > > - > Dave G > '65 MKIII Sprite > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.0/886 - Release Date: 7/4/2007 > 1:40 PM From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jul 6 06:50:03 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 8:50:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Seat Covers to cool down hot seats? (Robert Weeks) Message-ID: <20070706125003.LXZT5730.tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> If it's for when parked, you can tip the back of the seat forward to get the sitting surface out of the sun, or, you can use a tonneau cover to keep it out of the sun while parked. Both methods also protect the seat to some degree from overhead birds which seem to have an uncanny ability to soil the seats. > From: "Peej Noggin" > > While driving or to keep the seats from heating up while parked? My dad > uses Grant Sport Shield seat covers on his Vette. They can be slipped over > the seats quickly when you park and roll up pretty small when you don't need > them. He puts them on the seats when it's going to be parked in the sun a > while, protects them and keeps them from getting hot. > > Jack > > > >From: Robert Weeks > >Is anyone using any sort of a seat cover (sheep skin, synthetic, beaded, > >etc. ) in their Spridgets to keep their seats cool? My black seats get > >awful hot here in the summer. > > > >Any recommendations or things to steer clear of? I was thinking of getting > >some sheep skin covers but I imagine most of them are made for larger > >seats. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Robert From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jul 6 07:22:49 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 08:22:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Short dumb diff question.. In-Reply-To: <468D6AA7.11480.34BE049@dmg.bossig.com> References: <468D6AA7.11480.34BE049@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070706081905.03740100@nosimport.com> There's that pesky fill plug issue. Just stamp 3.9:1 on the bottom, then you don't have to remember the math, or stamp 253.5/MY just for fun. Peter C === At 12:03 AM 7/6/2007, Dave G. wrote: >Am I correct in assuming thagt it dioesn't matter which side of the >diff is right >and which is left?? >In other words, does it matter which way up the pumpkin is?? I'd like to >mount a 3.9 so that the ratio stamp can be seen from underneath > >Thanks > >- >Dave G >'65 MKIII Sprite Lord, I pray my brakes are twice as good as the guy in front of me.... ... and half as good as the guy behind. From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jul 6 07:42:36 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 07:42:36 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Clunk in rear In-Reply-To: <006c01c7bfab$6e734770$aa178656@tairswork> References: <26291290.1183652797566.JavaMail.root@eastrmwml26.mgt.cox.net> <002401c7bf21$d1e80be0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <5f00d9910707052004i4afdf378r31d9bbe7f01dceca@mail.gmail.com> <006c01c7bfab$6e734770$aa178656@tairswork> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707060642h234ec993ra930847afcda33b1@mail.gmail.com> Yes, but the three D cell Mag LED unit is much brighter. On 7/6/07, Guy R Day wrote: > Get one of the wind-up LED ones. There is no replacement battery to go > dead. I've now bought 12 of them because people 'borrow' them! From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jul 6 07:46:44 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 9:46:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Clunk in rear Message-ID: <20070706134644.FHD25465.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> :) So you really have no idea how they hold up over time! > On 7/6/07, Guy R Day wrote: > > Get one of the wind-up LED ones. > > I've now bought 12 of them because people 'borrow' them! From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jul 6 07:46:54 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 9:46:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Clunk in rear Message-ID: <20070706134654.SUGT1657.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> :) So you really have no idea how they hold up over time! > On 7/6/07, Guy R Day wrote: > > Get one of the wind-up LED ones. > > I've now bought 12 of them because people 'borrow' them! From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Fri Jul 6 07:53:25 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 06:53:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Short dumb diff question.. References: <641264.63416.qm@web50609.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000f01c7bfd5$07a8f100$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Clearly a car for non smokers!! Cardboard dashboard! Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Webster To: Paul Asgeirsson ; dmg at bossig.com ; spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Short dumb diff question.. thats been done...well sort of... http://www.uniquecarsandparts.com.au/car_info_lightburn_zeta.htm 2 stroke engine spun both ways... Paul Asgeirsson wrote: Methinks you'll need a new gearbox with 4 speed reverse on it. Otherwise you can go really fast backwards!! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Yahoo!7 Mail has just got even bigger and better with unlimited storage on all webmail accounts. Find out more. From dmg at bossig.com Fri Jul 6 07:50:35 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 06:50:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Short dumb diff question.. In-Reply-To: <000701c7bfca$df6f2290$6401a8c0@personal> References: <468D6AA7.11480.34BE049@dmg.bossig.com>, <000701c7bfca$df6f2290$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: <468DE63B.10177.14AC3C@dmg.bossig.com> Thaks to all who replied... I knew it was a dumb question! I shpould have waited until morning before asking it!! But I got a good (obvious?) answer.... mark the ratio on the underside, Doh! - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jul 6 08:03:46 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 09:03:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Seat Covers to cool down hot seats? (Robert Weeks) References: <20070706125003.LXZT5730.tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <005e01c7bfd6$7b0c03c0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > If it's for when parked, you can tip the back of the seat forward to get > the sitting surface out of the sun, or, you can use a tonneau cover to > keep it out of the sun while parked. Or you can get one of the light grey cockpit covers that strap on and keep the car nice and cool (relatively speaking). They are also good at shedding rain, surprisingly enough. Much better than my tonneau ever was. I have had the cockpit cover on in very heavy rain, gone out to move the car inside and found the interior perfectly dry. Quite happy with mine. David Lieb From lists at woozy.com Fri Jul 6 08:32:40 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 10:32:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Seat Covers to cool down hot seats? (Robert Weeks) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <468E5288.3000500@woozy.com> Thanks Jack, I was thinking for both driving and for when the car is parked. Even if the seats start off in the shade or tipped forward the seats get pretty sticky after a short while when driving in the summer here in NC. Robert Peej Noggin wrote: > While driving or to keep the seats from heating up while parked? My dad > uses Grant Sport Shield seat covers on his Vette. They can be slipped over > the seats quickly when you park and roll up pretty small when you don't need > them. He puts them on the seats when it's going to be parked in the sun a > while, protects them and keeps them from getting hot. > > Jack From grday at btinternet.com Fri Jul 6 08:36:54 2007 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 15:36:54 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Clunk in rear References: <20070706134654.SUGT1657.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <00db01c7bfdb$198d4460$af8d9751@tairswork> The one in the car glove box was given to me last Christmas and it still works. (But I don't need to use it!!!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Clunk in rear > :) So you really have no idea how they hold up over time! > >> On 7/6/07, Guy R Day wrote: >> > Get one of the wind-up LED ones. >> > I've now bought 12 of them because people 'borrow' them! > _______________________________________________ > grday at btinternet.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Fri Jul 6 11:47:26 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 10:47:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] what bolt is it? References: <4885778.1183725170878.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <00c101c7bff5$b840dda0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> 5/16-24 X 3/4" Hex head grade 5 Just picked up 150 of them yesterday. Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike/Donna Carpenter" To: "Andy Webster" ; Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 5:32 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] what bolt is it? > I think that it is simply a grade 8 that you can buy at any decent hardware store. > > Mike > -----Original Message----- > >From: Andy Webster > >Sent: Jul 6, 2007 2:36 AM > >To: spridgets at autox.team.net > >Subject: [Spridgets] what bolt is it? > > > >Can someone please tell me what type of bolt holds the pressure plate assy to the flywheel on a 1275? > > thanks in advance > > Andy From htpc2 at comcast.net Fri Jul 6 15:14:54 2007 From: htpc2 at comcast.net (Rick) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 16:14:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Clunk in rear Message-ID: <00cd01c7c012$b4ac6610$6400a8c0@htpc> Everyone who suggusted the wire wheel was right.... I got the other tire/wheel that was flat fixed and put it on and the noise is gone..... Happy camper till I break an axle..... Thanks everyone Rick From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jul 6 17:04:56 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 17:04:56 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Clunk in rear In-Reply-To: <00cd01c7c012$b4ac6610$6400a8c0@htpc> References: <00cd01c7c012$b4ac6610$6400a8c0@htpc> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707061604m65fd3dd2je54cc3559330676c@mail.gmail.com> I think wire axles are a little tougher than non-wire wheel axles. From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Fri Jul 6 18:19:56 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 17:19:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Short dumb diff question.. In-Reply-To: <641264.63416.qm@web50609.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <456150.22469.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Do not for get Messerschmitt did the same thing in the 50's. Framo power by DKW used the same for reverse. I can not remember who else but there was a lot of small cars that did the same thing and it worked very well. Vigil. Andy Webster wrote: thats been done...well sort of... http://www.uniquecarsandparts.com.au/car_info_lightburn_zeta.htm 2 stroke engine spun both ways... Paul Asgeirsson wrote: Methinks you'll need a new gearbox with 4 speed reverse on it. Otherwise you can go really fast backwards!! --------------------------------- Yahoo!7 Mail has just got even bigger and better with unlimited storage on all webmail accounts. Find out more. _______________________________________________ uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Fri Jul 6 18:23:50 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 17:23:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Clunk in rear References: <00cd01c7c012$b4ac6610$6400a8c0@htpc> <5f00d9910707061604m65fd3dd2je54cc3559330676c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002b01c7c02d$18facf20$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Any empirical data on that? Or is it that wire wheels flex so much the axle never gets twisted or shocked as they do with disc (solid) wheels? Paul A From: "derf" > I think wire axles are a little tougher than non-wire wheel axles. From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jul 6 18:38:23 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 18:38:23 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Clunk in rear In-Reply-To: <002b01c7c02d$18facf20$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <00cd01c7c012$b4ac6610$6400a8c0@htpc> <5f00d9910707061604m65fd3dd2je54cc3559330676c@mail.gmail.com> <002b01c7c02d$18facf20$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707061738j4efe66c6x75bd4e5bb2edcf19@mail.gmail.com> I just thought the wire axles were a little stronger than early non-wires. Maybe just the flexing of the wires and skinny tires transfers less torque load. Anyone broken more wire axles than non-wire? Cheers, Derf From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Fri Jul 6 19:48:54 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 20:48:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] what bolt is it? References: <4885778.1183725170878.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <00bc01c7c038$fa7d3680$6501a8c0@actualshop> Mike, etal. <> For the LAST time: There are NO, NADA, NONE, Grade 8 fasteners on ANY Frogeye or Spridget (or MGs of age, Big Healeys, Triumphs, etc.)!! NOR should there be!!! Ed From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Jul 6 19:52:28 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 18:52:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Musician's Spridget - only the lonely? Message-ID: <20070707015229.74817.qmail@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> 1st day of vacation, raining, went to the local bookstore. There's a book on "Rockabilly Legends" (nice section on Gene Vincent; unfortunately all pics were before Zoom played with him. In fact, I think all were pre-Triumph accident, 1957 or so?). Anyway, there's a picture of Roy Orbison working on what looks to be a Mk1 or Mk2 Midget. For some reason, I struggled to identify it as either a Midget or an early MGB, but I'm pretty sure it was a Midget. Anyone know about this and know whether it was a B or a Midget? I always pictured Roy in a Cadillac with huge fins. Glad I was wrong. My 1970 Midget started right up after 361 days of sitting today. Clutch was frozen and needed a little nudging, brakes too, but it seems ok now. Soon as the rain stops it'll get some miles racked up. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Fri Jul 6 20:24:15 2007 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 12:24:15 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Short dumb diff question.. In-Reply-To: <000f01c7bfd5$07a8f100$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <845825.62732.qm@web50601.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Definitely no smoking... I'm pretty sure the "fuel guage" was a sight glass that passed through that cardboard dash, allowing a direct visual indicator of the amount of fuel in the tank... by "sight glass" i mean clear plastic tube connected to the bottom and top of the tank.... did you see the "sports" model on the next page? http://www.uniquecarsandparts.com.au/car_info_lightburn_zeta_sports.htm would be no need for smoking anyway...as it's a 2stroke, the car does it for you. Andy Paul Asgeirsson wrote: Clearly a car for non smokers!! Cardboard dashboard! Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Webster To: Paul Asgeirsson ; dmg at bossig.com ; spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Short dumb diff question.. thats been done...well sort of... http://www.uniquecarsandparts.com.au/car_info_lightburn_zeta.htm 2 stroke engine spun both ways... Paul Asgeirsson wrote: Methinks you'll need a new gearbox with 4 speed reverse on it. Otherwise you can go really fast backwards!! --------------------------------- Yahoo!7 Mail has just got even bigger and better with unlimited storage on all webmail accounts. Find out more. --------------------------------- Yahoo!7 Mail has just got even bigger and better with unlimited storage on all webmail accounts. Find out more. From trevorwj at insightbb.com Fri Jul 6 20:29:58 2007 From: trevorwj at insightbb.com (trevorwj at insightbb.com) Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 22:29:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] what bolt is it? In-Reply-To: <00bc01c7c038$fa7d3680$6501a8c0@actualshop> References: <4885778.1183725170878.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <00bc01c7c038$fa7d3680$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: umm, I think you said last time that it was the "last time" you were going to say it.. ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: 63AHBJ7 <63ahbj7 at gmail.com> Date: Friday, July 6, 2007 21:49 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] what bolt is it? To: spridgets at autox.team.net > For the LAST time: There are NO, NADA, NONE, Grade 8 > fasteners on ANY Frogeye > or Spridget (or MGs of age, Big Healeys, Triumphs, etc.)!! > > NOR should there be!!! > > Ed From MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com Fri Jul 6 20:57:52 2007 From: MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com (MICHAEL CARPENTER) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 22:57:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] what bolt is it? References: <4885778.1183725170878.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <00bc01c7c038$fa7d3680$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <006a01c7c042$9cfe1420$f2f6f904@D1PWFG61> Are you afraid of the strength or what is your reasoning. I prefer not to have clutch parts flying where they shouldn't be. Also how do you know what grade they used? All that I ever see on a British bolt is a circle in the head of the bolt. What grade is that? Mike C ----- Original Message ----- From: "63AHBJ7" <63ahbj7 at gmail.com> To: Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 9:48 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] what bolt is it? > Mike, etal. > > < hardware > store.>> > > For the LAST time: There are NO, NADA, NONE, Grade 8 fasteners on ANY > Frogeye > or Spridget (or MGs of age, Big Healeys, Triumphs, etc.)!! > > NOR should there be!!! > > Ed From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Fri Jul 6 21:40:41 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 20:40:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Signing Message-ID: <001001c7c048$a0afc2c0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Speed control, Danish style!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ircMpMtKTBk&mode=user&search= Paul A From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Fri Jul 6 21:53:26 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 20:53:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] what bolt is it? References: <4885778.1183725170878.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net><00bc01c7c038$fa7d3680$6501a8c0@actualshop> <006a01c7c042$9cfe1420$f2f6f904@D1PWFG61> Message-ID: <001801c7c04a$60714f60$f675fea9@p0k7l8> The flywheel clutch bolts are not British. They are SAE. They even used the correct bolts on the flywheel to crankshaft. SAE threaded, but Place bolts. All these bolts have markings on the head which tell you what they are. Look at them!! Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "MICHAEL CARPENTER" To: "63AHBJ7" <63ahbj7 at gmail.com>; Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] what bolt is it? > Are you afraid of the strength or what is your reasoning. I prefer not to > have clutch parts flying where they shouldn't be. > > Also how do you know what grade they used? All that I ever see on a British > bolt is a circle in the head of the bolt. What grade is that? > > Mike C > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "63AHBJ7" <63ahbj7 at gmail.com> > To: > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 9:48 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] what bolt is it? > > > > Mike, etal. > > > > < > hardware > > store.>> > > > > For the LAST time: There are NO, NADA, NONE, Grade 8 fasteners on ANY > > Frogeye > > or Spridget (or MGs of age, Big Healeys, Triumphs, etc.)!! > > > > NOR should there be!!! > > > > Ed From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 1 11:43:11 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 12:43:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Laws for British Sports Cars Message-ID: <0ab001c7bc07$4cb12820$6401a8c0@Larry> Frank Krajewski of the MG list sent this out. I thought it needed to be passed on. Larry Daniels ================================== A friend sent this to me and I hadn't seen it before. Frank Krajewski The Laws for British Sports Cars John's Cars, Inc. Most of us are familiar with the physical laws thought up by Isaac Newton, the guy who invented gravity. He said things like "For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction" and "If you sit under a tree long enough, an apple will eventually fall on your head, provided you are sitting under an apple tree." Isaac was considered very intelligent and was eventually responsible for the invention of calculus, which was a new kind of math for people who thought math wasn't already hard enough. He is also the reason why, even today, people who work in apple orchards often wear large, protective hats. Newton's Laws made sense for hundreds of years, and everybody believed them. They believed them right up until the time when British sports cars were invented, when it was suddenly realized that a whole new bunch of laws was going to be needed. Many distinguished scientists have worked their entire lives to try and figure out why British autos never seem to obey any scientific laws known to man. These eminent scientists, with names like Morris, Healey, Leyland, Mowog, and Murphy, shook the scientific community when they published their new theory of mechanical behavior called "The Laws for British Sports Cars." Many people are not familiar with the five major laws, so they are listed below with a brief explanation of each. 1. Law of Peculiar Random Nomenclature The name of a British Sports Car shall consist primarily of letters and numbers, with said letters and numbers chosen in random fashion so that the resultant vehicle name is wholly devoid of meaning. This law explains why British cars always have spectacularly bad names like 'XKE' or worse yet, 'MGBGT'. 2. Law of Cryptic Instruction Any book, manual, pamphlet, or text dealing with the maintenance, repair, or restoration of a British Sports Car shall be written so that at least every fourth word will be unknown to the average reader. In the event that any portion of the text is understandable, the information contained therein shall be incorrect. Most people are familiar with this law. Here is an excerpt from page 132 of the MGA shop manual: "Before rebushing the lower grunnion banjos, you must remove the bonnet facia and undo the A-arm nut with a #3 spanner." All attempts to publish an English language version of this manual have failed. 3. Love of Hardship Law The more a British Sports Car malfunctions, breaks, and/or falls apart, the more endearing it becomes to the owner. You buy a British Sports Car. You have had it a year and a half, and have replaced every item on the car at least twice. When the engine is started it sounds as if someone has thrown a handful of ball bearings into a blender. But when someone offers to buy it, you are offended because "It's like part of the family, and besides, it's so much fun to drive." British Sports Car owners often stare into space and smile a lot. This is referred to as the "Foolish Person Syndrome." 4. Law of Non-Functional Attributes All British Sports Cars, regardless of condition or age, shall always have at least one system or sub-system of components which is entirely non-functional, and cannot be repaired except on a semi-permanent or semi-functional basis. This is also known as the famous Lucas Electrics Law. 5. Recently Discovered Component Failure Law Any component of a British Sports Car which is entirely unknown to the owner shall function perfectly, until such time that the owner becomes aware of the component's existence, when it shall instantly fail. Case in point: I have owned a rather natty MGB for six years. I never knew there was such a thing as a 'Gulp Valve' until I saw new ones offered for sale by Moss Motors. The next day, driving my MGB to work, the Gulp Valve fell off the motor and was run over by a truck. I do not know what the Gulp Valve gulps, nor do I particularly care to know, since it sounds messy and dangerous. But I figured I would buy a new Gulp Valve and install it myself. One look at the shop manual and I decided to have somebody else install it (see Law of Cryptic Instructions, above). While I'm driving the car over to the local repair establishment, I notice that the MGB is performing just as well as it ever did and that the loss of the mysterious Gulp Valve has not had any effect on its behavior. I figure this is due to the Non-functional Attribute Law, which means that the Gulp Valve probably wasn't gulping anything anyway, so I decided not to replace it after all. Three days later the engine had no more oil in it and promptly seized into a solid mass of metal. The tow truck operator, being ignorant of the Love of Hardship Law, offered to take the car off my hands for $100.00. I just smiled. From dmg at bossig.com Fri Jul 6 23:23:36 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 22:23:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hoodies vs cheesecutters... Message-ID: <468EC0E8.28174.131F8DB@dmg.bossig.com> Peugot 396 vs, Frogeye at Prescott.. Tongue in cheek?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-DGMrLGnLg&mode=related&search= - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jul 6 23:28:15 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 00:28:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Clunk in rear In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707061738j4efe66c6x75bd4e5bb2edcf19@mail.gmail.com> References: <00cd01c7c012$b4ac6610$6400a8c0@htpc> <5f00d9910707061604m65fd3dd2je54cc3559330676c@mail.gmail.com> <002b01c7c02d$18facf20$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <5f00d9910707061738j4efe66c6x75bd4e5bb2edcf19@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0707062228n3ec3f981uc88b93c3618cadad@mail.gmail.com> The only MG axles I have broken were on my 1946 MG TC back in the 60s. The 19 inch wires had a penchant for breaking both spokes and axles and that by a 1250cc engine! Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City On 7/6/07, derf wrote: > I just thought the wire axles were a little stronger than early non-wires. > Maybe just the flexing of the wires and skinny tires transfers less torque load. > Anyone broken more wire axles than non-wire? > Cheers, > Derf From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 7 07:05:53 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 08:05:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Laws for British Sports Cars References: <000d01c7c08e$08f4d2e0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <00ae01c7c097$8d571e40$6401a8c0@Larry> Bud, I'm quite sure this was all done very tongue-in-cheek. Nothing to take too seriously -- like the correct temperature to drink your beer. Sooo... have one and chill. ;-)) LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Osbourne" To: "'Larry Daniels'" ; ; "'Spridgets List'" ; Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 6:57 AM Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Laws for British Sports Cars Here we go, again. While some people derive a certain satisfaction out of perpetuating "the myth", my opinion, formed over 45 years of British car ownership and experience, is that: if you have chronic trouble with your Brit car; it is only because you and/or your mechanic are idiots. Period. I no longer sit/stand quietly by, when people spout such utter bullroar. I've politely informed several friends, as well as complete strangers, over the past year or so, that they are idiots. Nothing personal. Nothing malicious. No offense meant to anyone. But, if you believe any of what Mr. Krajewski sent out; you are an idiot. That having been stated, I will confess at to least a couple of past and future lapses into gibbering idiocy, when it comes to the maintenance of my Brit cars. Few of us are totally immune from such occasional lapses. Example: Last Saturday, I spent a thoroughly delightful day of driving my Midget over about 200 miles of back roads in western PA and eastern Ohio, in company with a bunch of MGs & Triumphs, and one very nice TVR 2500M. During that time, we were delayed three or four times by the TVR needing to be massaged to correct "issues" with a couple of NON-STOCK, AFTERMARKET replacement parts touted as "cures" for OE Brit car components. Of the cars in our "fast group" (those of us who like to move briskly, while enjoying the scenery & roads, rather than studying them in excruciating detail), all but the TVR ran like clockwork. My Midget has been doing that for the past 25 years, with no end in sight. Sure, I've had to make some repairs, but, the car has always gotten me to where I needed to be, and never left me stranded. Other than my MGB-GT, it's been one of the most reliable cars I've ever owned, and that list includes several Porsches, BMWs, Volkswagens and Chevrolets. Bud Osbourne From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jul 7 07:32:54 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 07:32:54 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Laws for British Sports Cars In-Reply-To: <0ab001c7bc07$4cb12820$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <0ab001c7bc07$4cb12820$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707070632l3adc855r229eaebee7307561@mail.gmail.com> That's humor. I recognize that. I used to think "You can't please everyone." But, nowadays it seems more like "You can't 'not offend' someone." I'll bet his cars never leaked a drop of oil, either. Considering the first post was humorous and the second not, we all know "bullroar" when we hear it. Cheers, Derf From pythias at pacifier.com Sat Jul 7 07:47:15 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 06:47:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 3.9 rear end.. again Message-ID: <384134358.20070707064715@pacifier.com> Hello , ebay #320135207513 . should i just break down and buy (this) one?.. somebody got a better one, or a better price than $125? plus shipping? -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite "the red thing" (HAN8L 49403) Better to understand a little than to misunderstand a lot. From abcoz at hky.com Sat Jul 7 08:35:36 2007 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 10:35:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Laws for British Sports Cars In-Reply-To: <00ae01c7c097$8d571e40$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <001701c7c0a4$151c6360$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> >From the responses, my guess is that not many read all of my post. If you all had, you'd have noticed that I've not exempted myself from, occasionally, fitting the idiot description. None of us are immune. Some are far more susceptible than others, however. But, seriously, don't at least some of you get tired of hearing the same, old, mindless Lucas jokes (and similar fare) over and over and over and....? No, I did not miss the humor in Mr. Krajewski's writings. It's just that I've heard the same type of stuff repeated for the past 45 years, so, it doesn't really seem that clever to me, anymore. Sorry if I peed in someone's corn flakes. I just think it would be so much more refreshing to hear someone touting the beautiful simplicity and correctness of the design and execution of so many of our Brit cars, and how that helps make them easy to maintain in a reliable manner, for a change. Too much to ask? Probably. But, indulge me this little bit, OK guys? Thanks. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: Larry Daniels [mailto:ladaniels at sbcglobal.net] Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 8:06 AM To: Bud Osbourne; midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com; 'Spridgets List'; bugeye at yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Laws for British Sports Cars Bud, I'm quite sure this was all done very tongue-in-cheek. Nothing to take too seriously -- like the correct temperature to drink your beer. Sooo... have one and chill. ;-)) LAD From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jul 7 08:35:36 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 08:35:36 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Morriservice 5 Speed Kit For Sale Before It Hits ebay Message-ID: <5f00d9910707070735l2f35240hd5873e8f5ca50799@mail.gmail.com> I sold the Midget so I don't need Paul's kit anymore. Anyone thinking of making the conversion please let me know. I paid over $900 for the kit and will let it go for less than that. Cheers, Derf From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 7 08:48:21 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 09:48:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Iola Old Car Show 2007 Message-ID: <00d901c7c0a5$dde9c390$6401a8c0@Larry> Any WI or IL people going to the Iola (WI) Old Car Show next Sunday, July 15? For those not familiar with this show, there are over 2,500 show cars plus over 1,000 more cars for sale in the car corral and a swap meet area with over 4,000 spaces. It is big. They are having their "International Alley" again this year. There will be a special parking area for our classic British/foreign cars as well as free admission for us on Sunday. http://tinyurl.com/2fg7p9 Last year Peter C and I met for breakfast in Waupaca on the way up. For anybody interested, lets meet for breakfast at the diner adjacent to the Mobil station at Hwy 54 and Cty QQ at 9AM. Take Hwy 10 north to Waupaca. The 3rd exit will be Hwy 54. Exit and turn left. The first intersection -- only a few yards -- will be Cty QQ. The gas station/diner will be on the left. Who can make it? Larry Daniels 79 MGB LE 60 Bugeye 67 Austin A60 Pickup (Ute) "You only need two tools: WD-40 and Duct Tape. If it doesn't move and should, use the WD-40. If it shouldn't move and does, use the duct tape." From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Sat Jul 7 09:20:55 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 08:20:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 3.9 rear end.. again Message-ID: <200707071520.l67FKtQL006074@musca.ucdavis.edu> Bill, where are you located? I picked up an extra at the Pick and Pull last year for $20 and if I don't have to ship it or clean it, its yours for the $20. It is NOT as clean as that one, but elbowgrease is free. Glen Byrns > Hello , > > ebay #320135207513 . > > should i just break down and buy (this) one?.. > > somebody got a better one, or a better price than $125? plus > shipping? > > -- > Best regards, > Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jul 7 09:52:19 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 09:52:19 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Laws for British Sports Cars In-Reply-To: <001701c7c0a4$151c6360$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> References: <00ae01c7c097$8d571e40$6401a8c0@Larry> <001701c7c0a4$151c6360$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707070852s6aa5ebccw5992f2f129bc23da@mail.gmail.com> 'Tis easier to poke fun at something than to appreciate the good. The jokes are what keep us going when the axle snaps, when the cop pulls you over because your tail light isn't working, when the tranny starts popping out of gear, when "installation is reverse of disassembly", when two different sources both show incorrect wiring diagrams. The fact that all these worn out cliche'd problems are worth overcoming and the Everest of Lucas electrical problems is worth surmounting is a tribute to the worth of the order of British sports cars. If you have a British car you have to keep the British stiff upper lip and weather a little abuse. But, you can smile to yourself and think what troubles you would have if you had say, an Italian sports car, or a French sports car. This list represents a good cross section of racers, rust buckets, clunkers, daily drivers, and trailer queens. The little quirks of LBCs make up a good portion of the character of the cars. If the POS and PITA factors aren't outweighed by the good of the car, then the owner would sell the car. As for me, I'll take the LBC jokes, especially from other LBC owners (even TR people, I guess). But, let some Fiat or Alfalfa owner start hurling insults, and we'll let Frank make him an offer he can't refuse. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jul 7 09:57:29 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 09:57:29 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 3.9 rear end.. again In-Reply-To: <200707071520.l67FKtQL006074@musca.ucdavis.edu> References: <200707071520.l67FKtQL006074@musca.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707070857v1d659270pe92206450acf6b03@mail.gmail.com> That is a smokin good offer. I've sold several 3.9s and 3.7s and they go for $100-200 on ebay regularly. Those diffs weigh about 25 pounds and fit in a (free) Priority Mail box, 12X12X8, IIRC. We tite folks can get the box for free and turn it inside-out to send via methods other than Priority mail. Nash Metropolitan owners really want them to replace the granny gears that were stock. Cheers, Derf From herby at herbytoys.com Sat Jul 7 12:41:49 2007 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 11:41:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 3.9 rear end.. again In-Reply-To: <200707071520.l67FKtQL006074@musca.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <000501c7c0c6$7c2bc790$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> Hey Glen, if Bill doesn't take it (Although I don't know why he wouldn't) I'll take you up on it. Not only would you not have to clean I can pick it up! Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Glen Byrns Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 8:21 AM To: Bill L; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 3.9 rear end.. again Bill, where are you located? I picked up an extra at the Pick and Pull last year for $20 and if I don't have to ship it or clean it, its yours for the $20. It is NOT as clean as that one, but elbowgrease is free. Glen Byrns > Hello , > > ebay #320135207513 . > > should i just break down and buy (this) one?.. > > somebody got a better one, or a better price than $125? plus > shipping? > > -- > Best regards, > Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Sat Jul 7 17:36:38 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 16:36:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 3.9 diff Message-ID: <200707072336.l67NackH007549@citheronia.ucdavis.edu> The 3.9 is gone to Herb since he's local enough to come and pick it up. With the light surface rust on the gears, I'd rather the recipient be able to look at it before being stuck with it and Herb is just a stone's throw away. It had taken some rain after being taken out of something or other and then being stashed in the boot of a Fiat 124 at the wrecker. I think someone planned to come back and get another day. Having put 3.9s into all three of my LBCs I knew what it was immediately, checked the tooth count, and grabbed it out of habit rather than need. After two years in the side yard, its time to get real. Glen Byrns From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Sat Jul 7 17:35:59 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 16:35:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Message-ID: <200707072335.l67NZxUA027123@tremex.ucdavis.edu> The 3.9 is gone to Herb since he's local enough to come and pick it up. With the light surface rust on the gears, I'd rather the recipient be able to look at it before being stuck with it and Herb is just a stone's throw away. It had taken some rain after being taken out of something or other and then being stashed in the boot of a Fiat 124 at the wrecker. I think someone planned to come back and get another day. Having put 3.9s into all three of my LBCs I knew what it was immediately, checked the tooth count, and grabbed it out of habit rather than need. After two years in the side yard, its time to get real. Glen Byrns From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Sat Jul 7 17:40:35 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 16:40:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] junkyard Austin America Message-ID: <200707072340.l67NeZYN005384@phaenicia.ucdavis.edu> The local wrecker has an Austin America in the yard mis-labelled as a "MGBGT". Figures. anyhow, the powertrain is intact. No A/C If anyone wants all or part, get in touch. I don't want or need anything off it so it will eventually head off to be crushed. Don't wait too long. Aren't the blocks the thick flange ones that can be used on the Spridget 1275s? Glen Byrns From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Jul 7 20:27:11 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 22:27:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Laws for British Sports Cars In-Reply-To: <001701c7c0a4$151c6360$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> References: <001701c7c0a4$151c6360$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <46904B7F.5000606@comcast.net> Bud Osbourne wrote: > I just think it would be so much more refreshing to hear someone touting > the beautiful simplicity and correctness of the design and execution of > so many of our Brit cars, OK Bud, How's this..... Jap cars have a bunch of letters and stuff that really DOES have no meaning. Acura (which is ALMOST acuraTE) has TLCs and RTVs or what ever the letters are. What do they mean? Ask a Lexsucks owner what does his IS 300 means? Is 300 WHAT? There is a MAXIpad, Altima, Corroded, CRX and a bunch of other weird names. What is a camry? I know, it's a washing machine! I was out to dinner tonight and listening to the guy at the next table talking about his $300 oil change on his Ferarri and that they have to pull the head to change the spark plugs at around $3500. The shop getsd $190 per hour. I can buy a Spridget for around the same hourly rate. So who's laughing now ;) Today some guy in a truck looking thing was asking me all kinds of questions about my Sprite while we waited out the light. Does anyone ask anybody any questions about their honda, or toyota while stopped at a light? Maybe what color beige do they call that there camry? Tan, champagne, peanut butter, or puke? Or how about "nice silver civic you have there pal" is that the 100,000,000,000,000,000, silver civic ever produced? I'll take my weird little British car over any of the modern plastic junk out there any day. I have to drive modern pickup for work, when I'm not working, I drive one of my Sprites and I don't mind the jokes, or the questions. I do mind people asking who makes it, I tell them and they ask the same question again? "Who make that?" So I say Who makes your toyota? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jul 7 20:49:57 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 20:49:57 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Laws for British Sports Cars In-Reply-To: <46904B7F.5000606@comcast.net> References: <001701c7c0a4$151c6360$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> <46904B7F.5000606@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707071949i7028d30cpe3e10779976890ea@mail.gmail.com> Some imports use badges for pricing. LX-300 is $30,000, LX-450 is $45,000, Q45 is $45,000, etc. From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Jul 7 21:17:02 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 20:17:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hey Frank, Bad new about China Message-ID: <380-220077083172343@earthlink.net> Yes, Frank, I was shocked and saddened to read in the London Times that now even the Chinese government its factories make some crappy junk. Including telephone batteries that explode and kill.....their own people! "The toxic toothpaste is the latest in a long list of Chinese-made products that have been deemed harmful or faulty in recent weeks. China might be the world's factory, but more and more countries are questioning whether its economy is booming at the expense of their citizens' health, as indeed are the Chinese themselves." Even the Chinese government's own bureaucrats are getting the chop! "The former head of the state food and drug administration , Zheng Xiaoyu, was sentenced to death in May for approving sub-standard drugs that subsequently killed 10 people." (Iguess that is why he is the "former head".) http://tinyurl.com/2f9b8d From abcoz at hky.com Sun Jul 8 05:03:58 2007 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 07:03:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Laws for British Sports Cars In-Reply-To: <46904B7F.5000606@comcast.net> Message-ID: <002c01c7c14f$aefc5ca0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Frank, I'd call those some pretty accurate (no pun intended) insightful observations. Bud -----Original Message----- From: Frank Clarici [mailto:spritenut at comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 9:27 PM To: Bud Osbourne Cc: 'Spridgets List' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Laws for British Sports Cars Bud Osbourne wrote: > I just think it would be so much more refreshing to hear someone touting > the beautiful simplicity and correctness of the design and execution of > so many of our Brit cars, OK Bud, How's this..... Jap cars have a bunch of letters and stuff that really DOES have no meaning. Acura (which is ALMOST acuraTE) has TLCs and RTVs or what ever the letters are. What do they mean? Ask a Lexsucks owner what does his IS 300 means? Is 300 WHAT? There is a MAXIpad, Altima, Corroded, CRX and a bunch of other weird names. What is a camry? I know, it's a washing machine! I was out to dinner tonight and listening to the guy at the next table talking about his $300 oil change on his Ferarri and that they have to pull the head to change the spark plugs at around $3500. The shop getsd $190 per hour. I can buy a Spridget for around the same hourly rate. So who's laughing now ;) Today some guy in a truck looking thing was asking me all kinds of questions about my Sprite while we waited out the light. Does anyone ask anybody any questions about their honda, or toyota while stopped at a light? Maybe what color beige do they call that there camry? Tan, champagne, peanut butter, or puke? Or how about "nice silver civic you have there pal" is that the 100,000,000,000,000,000, silver civic ever produced? I'll take my weird little British car over any of the modern plastic junk out there any day. I have to drive modern pickup for work, when I'm not working, I drive one of my Sprites and I don't mind the jokes, or the questions. I do mind people asking who makes it, I tell them and they ask the same question again? "Who make that?" So I say Who makes your toyota? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From kidjoevid at yahoo.com Sun Jul 8 06:30:52 2007 From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com (Joe Lansing) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 05:30:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] engine timing Message-ID: <454461.41889.qm@web33212.mail.mud.yahoo.com> One year ago this weekend I put my '62 in the garage and started an upgrade. I'm now to the point I can try starting the rebuilt 1275 I put in it. I'll apologize in advance for the many stupid questions I'll pose while going through this process. True to the amateur I am, I've changed so many components it may prove difficult to determine where my problem lays. New Weber 45, new cam, new alternator, new electonic distributor to name those relevant to current problem. Right now the engine will turn over smoothly, but only fire on a single cylinder every 4 or 5 revolutions. The block was re-assembled by a good shop, so I'm going to assume cam timing is at least close enough to run. I rolled the engine to #1 piston at TDC, then checked to make certain the distributor was postioned close to the #1 terminal, and then the wires were 1342. Just to double check...is the #1 cylinder the one furthest from the firewall? Where can a dummy find some more engine timing trouble shooting tips? Joe 62 Sprite ____________________________________________________________________________________ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ From jlaird237 at cox.net Sun Jul 8 06:51:37 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 07:51:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] engine timing References: <454461.41889.qm@web33212.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001f01c7c15e$b8cc6cc0$6401a8c0@personal> First, do you have fire at all the plugs? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Lansing" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 7:30 AM Subject: [Spridgets] engine timing > One year ago this weekend I put my '62 in the garage > and started an upgrade. I'm now to the point I can try > starting the rebuilt 1275 I put in it. I'll apologize > in advance for the many stupid questions I'll pose > while going through this process. > > True to the amateur I am, I've changed so many > components it may prove difficult to determine where > my problem lays. New Weber 45, new cam, new > alternator, new electonic distributor to name those > relevant to current problem. > > Right now the engine will turn over smoothly, but only > fire on a single cylinder every 4 or 5 revolutions. > The block was re-assembled by a good shop, so I'm > going to assume cam timing is at least close enough to > run. > > I rolled the engine to #1 piston at TDC, then checked > to make certain the distributor was postioned close to > the #1 terminal, and then the wires were 1342. Just to > double check...is the #1 cylinder the one furthest > from the firewall? > > Where can a dummy find some more engine timing trouble > shooting tips? > > Joe > 62 Sprite > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.1/889 - Release Date: 7/6/2007 > 8:00 PM From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Jul 8 06:54:33 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 07:54:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] engine timing References: <454461.41889.qm@web33212.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <035e01c7c15f$222d8190$0401a8c0@midget> Joe, Yes, #1 is farthest from firewall or closest to radiator, take your pick ;-) TDC is not always accurate... you have to pull the valve cover in order to KNOW whether it is supposed to be firing this time around. Each cylinder hits TDC twice per cycle. Once when it is time to fire and once when it is finishing pushing the exhaust gases out. Whenever #1 is at TDC, #4 is, too. When it is ready to fire, BOTH rocker arms for that cylinder will be a little loose (compare to #4). Another thing to triple-check is that you have not switched the plug wires for #2 and #3. We have all done it; I was hard-wired for small-block Chevy with a distributor that rotates clockwise... this one rotates anticlockwise. The only real difference to the plugwires is that 2 and 3 are switched. This gives an engine that goes putt putt putt bang. Remember that the plug fires when the points OPEN, not when they close. Which electronic dizzy did you get? 123/Mini? Pertronix? I haven't played with the Pertronix distributor (I have with the conversion), but I am familiar with the 123/Mini. As Jack says, check to see that you are getting a spark at each wire. David From healeymonster at fastwave.biz Sun Jul 8 07:24:00 2007 From: healeymonster at fastwave.biz (Ed Townley) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 07:24:00 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] BE windscreen installation Message-ID: <014201c7c163$42293b70$6401a8c0@main> Time to install the WS on the RHD project car-wondering if it is easier to install in frame on bench, or after mounting frame on body?? Opinions? Thanks, Ed in Southern NM, USA 59 AN5 59 AN5 RHD From lists at woozy.com Sun Jul 8 07:30:05 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 09:30:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] engine timing In-Reply-To: <454461.41889.qm@web33212.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <454461.41889.qm@web33212.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4690E6DD.8050305@woozy.com> Joe, I'm pretty sure that clockwise starting with the #1 terminal the order of the wires on the dizzy should be 1-2-4-3. The order you have below is correct if that is counter-clockwise. Robert > I rolled the engine to #1 piston at TDC, then checked > to make certain the distributor was postioned close to > the #1 terminal, and then the wires were 1342. Just to > double check...is the #1 cylinder the one furthest > from the firewall? From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 8 07:39:39 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 06:39:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] engine timing In-Reply-To: <454461.41889.qm@web33212.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <629982.23519.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Joe Lansing wrote: > Right now the engine will turn over smoothly, but > only > fire on a single cylinder every 4 or 5 revolutions. Joe, Short answer, swap the coil and change plug wires, easy and relatively cheap. Long anecdote below. Recently at the race track my Sprite was doing the same thing with less frequency. The tach was dancing wildly, and at first the miss was almost undetectable - the car was pulling well past 7000 RPM (similar setup to yours except it's a stock points distributor), but the tach was bouncing all over the place. With the tach dancing, it indicates the low tension (points) circuit. We changed everything except the coil. Still there, except now it died completely. It would start up if left alone, but was running progressively worse as it warmed. We changed the coil (Bosch Blue, maybe a year old) and it went away immediately and completely. I've always looked sideways at people who claimed coils were going bad, as I always thought they either worked or didn't, and I'd never had one go bad before, but now I have. Ron Soave "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 8 07:44:39 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 06:44:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] engine timing In-Reply-To: <4690E6DD.8050305@woozy.com> Message-ID: <217872.88982.qm@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Robert Weeks wrote: > Joe, > > I'm pretty sure that clockwise starting with the #1 > terminal the order > of the wires on the dizzy should be 1-2-4-3. I had to read that lefty. Robert is right. The tach spins counterclockwise, though, and 1-3-4-2 is correct in the CCW direction as you turn the engine. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 8 07:47:41 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 06:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] engine timing In-Reply-To: <217872.88982.qm@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <793264.24933.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Ron Soave wrote: > I had to read that lefty. Robert is right. The tach > spins counterclockwise, though, and 1-3-4-2 is Make that the ROTOR spins, not the tach. I'm responding in triplicate and derflicate this morning. Ron From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Jul 8 07:49:49 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 08:49:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] engine timing References: <793264.24933.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <036c01c7c166$da84cdf0$0401a8c0@midget> > --- Ron Soave wrote: >> I had to read that lefty. Robert is right. The tach >> spins counterclockwise, though, and 1-3-4-2 is > > Make that the ROTOR spins, not the tach. I'm > responding in triplicate and derflicate this morning. Give ya nuff tries and you get most of the info out there ;-) From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 09:46:45 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 09:46:45 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] engine timing In-Reply-To: <036c01c7c166$da84cdf0$0401a8c0@midget> References: <793264.24933.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <036c01c7c166$da84cdf0$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707080846v3dc4ec76p5dec446069cb85ac@mail.gmail.com> I'll start with the obvious first step. Is the block properly grounded via ground strap? Maybe a derfism but seems like a logical first step considering info provided. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 09:50:16 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 09:50:16 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] engine timing In-Reply-To: <454461.41889.qm@web33212.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <454461.41889.qm@web33212.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707080850n61149ce0x7f4574fedd27bab3@mail.gmail.com> > Where can a dummy find some more engine timing trouble > shooting tips? Here: spridgets at autox.team.net Just give us details and we'll eventually help you figure it out. Sooner or later the answers will emerge from among the rhetoric, whining, expert opinions, and stuff. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 10:12:22 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 10:12:22 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Troubleshooting 101, Experts hit delete, you already know this stuff. Noobs read on. Message-ID: <5f00d9910707080912n1743dde5o996c7a3323afb5e9@mail.gmail.com> Fuel and spark, the two necessaries for combustion. Spridget won't start, check fuel and spark. Another big two for Spridget troubleshooting are dashpot oil and electrical grounds. An oft overlooked tuning and troubleshooting step for SU carb users is dashpot oil. If that chamber gets dry the carbs will not run properly. There are many thoughts on the proper fluid to run in the dashpots. I have had good luck with motor oil and Marvel Mystery Oil. But, I am biased. I use Marvel Mystery Oil for everything. I think it is good stuff. My fill technique might be unorthodox, too. I pour the stuff in and work the piston up to expel the excess. YMMV. You can pay for "dashpot oil" or get opinions from other, experienced users. 10wt compressor oil works good, too. If your motor is in a high state of tune like "fast road" or racing apps, then the dashpot oil used is more important as it is a tuning factor. It is but one variable in the equation, though. There is a spring in there, too. The spring, oil, and vacuum work in concert to raise the piston for proper function. This may sound complex but the SU carbs are a really simple and effective design. Poor electrical grounds are the bane of the Lucas world. Bullet connectors, while seemingly convenient, are doomed to fail if not insulated properly. My experience is that most generators, alternators, and components on Spridgets are OK, but the wiring to run everything causes more trouble than anything. Everything electrical on a Spridget needs a good ground. Most times if things aren't working, whether it be tach, lights, fans, whatever, troubleshooting will reveal a poor ground. Bullet connectors can be replaced or cleaned. You can get grease to insulate the connectors and protect them from corrosion. If you have any problem and you need help, don't hesitate to post it on the list. Cheers, Derf From kidjoevid at yahoo.com Sun Jul 8 10:24:12 2007 From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com (Joe Lansing) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 09:24:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] engine timing In-Reply-To: <035e01c7c15f$222d8190$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <911194.43723.qm@web33213.mail.mud.yahoo.com> OK - I have fire at each plug. I made sure #1 was TDC by checking timing mark on pulley was at center mark on timing chain cover, peering in #1 and #4 sparkplug holes, and pulling valve cover to see if valves and rockers on 1 and 4 were both slightly loose and even. All was good but looseness on #1 rockers. They were tight and slightly uneven. the exhaust valve is slightly down. When you view things when the engine is in this position - I have the Mini123 dizzy inserted, and have rotated it clockwise until the green LED pops on. The LED is at about 3:00. The rotor points to about 11:00. When I snap the cap back on the dizzy, I have #1 just slightly behind the rotor - at about 12:00. Then, consecutively, in anticlockwise order, #3, #4, #2. This Mini123 distributor has no vacuum advance, thought the instructions that came with it describe one. The I have the #2 curve (one for 1275s) selected. I don't have a ground strap on the block. I'll put one on right now. Wireless internet in the home is awesome. I'm writing this from the rear luggage rack. I'll post pictures if needed. Thanks everyone! More help needed! Joe > > Which electronic dizzy did you get? 123/Mini? > Pertronix? I haven't played > with the Pertronix distributor (I have with the > conversion), but I am > familiar with the 123/Mini. > > As Jack says, check to see that you are getting a > spark at each wire. > David > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121 From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 10:36:22 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 10:36:22 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] engine timing In-Reply-To: <911194.43723.qm@web33213.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <035e01c7c15f$222d8190$0401a8c0@midget> <911194.43723.qm@web33213.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707080936n1479448cgcd7c86d707eefd08@mail.gmail.com> TDC for 1 and 4 is the same. But, because the cam turns 1/2 turn for every crank turn, lining up the mark can give you either 4 or 1 ready to fire. If the #1 valves aren't both closed, then you have 4 at TDC. Turn the crank 360 and you should have 1 at TDC with both valves closed. You can also pull the plug and wait to feel compression from the plug hole to know when 1 is coming up on TDC. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 10:43:41 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 10:43:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] engine timing In-Reply-To: <911194.43723.qm@web33213.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <035e01c7c15f$222d8190$0401a8c0@midget> <911194.43723.qm@web33213.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707080943k7fd918f4h472a0638be367fd7@mail.gmail.com> Some other info: The #1 plug wire marker on the dizzy cap, if it has a mark, is only good if you stick the dizzy in a certain way. There are several different positions that the rotor can end up in when you put a motor together. To change the position you have to pull the dizzy and then use a long 5/16 bolt to pull the dizzy drive. It is not hard, but also not necessary. Just turn the crank until both #1 valves are closed and the marks line up for TDC. Then note where the rotor points and put the #1 plug wire there. Ignore the #1 marks on the cap, if there are any. #4 should go opposite #1. #s 2 and 3 should go as described earlier, 1,3,4,2 in the direction of rotor rotation. You may have to move the dizzy to get it started. Try turning it over. If it doesn't start, move the dizzy a little and try again. You will be able to hear a difference when it gets close to being good enough to start. Once you get it started, wipe the grin off your face and hit it with a timing light before you tighten the dizzy clamp. Have a beer. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 10:50:15 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 10:50:15 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] engine timing In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707080943k7fd918f4h472a0638be367fd7@mail.gmail.com> References: <035e01c7c15f$222d8190$0401a8c0@midget> <911194.43723.qm@web33213.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5f00d9910707080943k7fd918f4h472a0638be367fd7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707080950r539ed1f0g4625ad3280d11461@mail.gmail.com> Another note: On fresh rebuilds I like to pull the plugs and turn the motor over with the starter until I see oil pressure on the gauge. You may have already done this or you may have turned it over enough by now to get pressure, but it is just one thing I like to see before proceeding. Once you get it started, keep an eye on that oil pressure and temp gauge. You will be tempted to just sit there and smile at the thing, but resist that urge and pay attention. Wireless internet is good but I'm about to head to BW2 for lunch and even if they did have access I won't be able to type with wings in my hands. Hopefully you are pointed in the right direction. If not, some other lister can step in and guide you further. There are many here who know much more than I do. They just keep quiet because I'm usually hogging the podium. Cheers, Derf From duncan at pondhop.com Sun Jul 8 10:54:57 2007 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 11:54:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] engine timing In-Reply-To: <911194.43723.qm@web33213.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <035e01c7c15f$222d8190$0401a8c0@midget> <911194.43723.qm@web33213.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <006101c7c180$b796b370$26c41a50$@com> It sounds like you are 360 crank degrees out with actually no4 on TDC Firing stroke. Rotate crank 360 and recheck valve positions. You want no1 valves both closed so rockers will be a little loose. No4 exhaust valve should be slightly open. When you have that reset your dizzy positions. Thanks Duncan -----Original Message----- From: Joe Lansing [mailto:kidjoevid at yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 11:24 AM To: David Lieb; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] engine timing OK - I have fire at each plug. I made sure #1 was TDC by checking timing mark on pulley was at center mark on timing chain cover, peering in #1 and #4 sparkplug holes, and pulling valve cover to see if valves and rockers on 1 and 4 were both slightly loose and even. All was good but looseness on #1 rockers. They were tight and slightly uneven. the exhaust valve is slightly down. When you view things when the engine is in this position - I have the Mini123 dizzy inserted, and have rotated it clockwise until the green LED pops on. The LED is at about 3:00. The rotor points to about 11:00. When I snap the cap back on the dizzy, I have #1 just slightly behind the rotor - at about 12:00. Then, consecutively, in anticlockwise order, #3, #4, #2. This Mini123 distributor has no vacuum advance, thought the instructions that came with it describe one. The I have the #2 curve (one for 1275s) selected. I don't have a ground strap on the block. I'll put one on right now. Wireless internet in the home is awesome. I'm writing this from the rear luggage rack. I'll post pictures if needed. Thanks everyone! More help needed! Joe > > Which electronic dizzy did you get? 123/Mini? > Pertronix? I haven't played > with the Pertronix distributor (I have with the > conversion), but I am > familiar with the 123/Mini. > > As Jack says, check to see that you are getting a > spark at each wire. > David > > ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121 _______________________________________________ duncan at pondhop.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kidjoevid at yahoo.com Sun Jul 8 11:44:04 2007 From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com (Joe Lansing) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 10:44:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Engine timing - Mini123 dizzy Message-ID: <539602.18904.qm@web33215.mail.mud.yahoo.com> OK - After checking, I'm pretty sure I was setting static timing with #4 at TDC, not #1. I bumped the engine until I got timing marks to line up again, both valves on #1 closed, and I found the rotor pointed 180 degrees from #1. So I pulled the distributor and rotated the shaft 180 deg. Now, I can't get the LED in the Mini123 dizzy to light up. Does it always show in the same hole? I tried rotating it thru roughly 200 degrees and no LED lit up. I can see with a mirror what I believe is the LED port (just about where it was when I had the shaft 180 degrees opposite) but it never lights up. Do I check different holes? Is there one, or more LED's? Any help appreciated! Joe ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/norton/index.php From pythias at pacifier.com Sun Jul 8 11:55:43 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 10:55:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine timing - Mini123 dizzy In-Reply-To: <539602.18904.qm@web33215.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <539602.18904.qm@web33215.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <537787408.20070708105543@pacifier.com> Hello Joe, rather than pulling the dizzy and rotating the shaft, maybe swap #1 and #4 plug wires, and #2 and #3 wires? .. .. get the engine running THEN take care of nice-itys? -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 12:47:23 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 12:47:23 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine timing - Mini123 dizzy In-Reply-To: <537787408.20070708105543@pacifier.com> References: <539602.18904.qm@web33215.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <537787408.20070708105543@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707081147j1e6c3337xd3b7bd22089dca07@mail.gmail.com> I agree with that. On 7/8/07, Bill L wrote: > Hello Joe, > > rather than pulling the dizzy and rotating the shaft, maybe > swap #1 and #4 plug wires, and #2 and #3 wires? .. .. get the > engine running THEN take care of nice-itys? > I'm not familiar with the 123 dizzies. I imagine the LED comes on for some reason that should be explained in the manual. When you pulled the dizzy, did you pull the dizzy drive shaft, too? If not, you will have problems. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 12:52:47 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 12:52:47 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine timing - Mini123 dizzy In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707081147j1e6c3337xd3b7bd22089dca07@mail.gmail.com> References: <539602.18904.qm@web33215.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <537787408.20070708105543@pacifier.com> <5f00d9910707081147j1e6c3337xd3b7bd22089dca07@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707081152w350fbc9du71ffc9df80ec64c0@mail.gmail.com> According to the 123 directions, you should get the green LED with the black wire disconnected. From jlaird237 at cox.net Sun Jul 8 13:29:29 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 14:29:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] engine timing References: <454461.41889.qm@web33212.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001f01c7c15e$b8cc6cc0$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: <000401c7c196$4d8908f0$6401a8c0@personal> Each plug must have elec to operate in turn, do they. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Laird" To: "Joe Lansing" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 7:51 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] engine timing > First, do you have fire at all the plugs? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Lansing" > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 7:30 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] engine timing > > >> One year ago this weekend I put my '62 in the garage >> and started an upgrade. I'm now to the point I can try >> starting the rebuilt 1275 I put in it. I'll apologize >> in advance for the many stupid questions I'll pose >> while going through this process. >> >> True to the amateur I am, I've changed so many >> components it may prove difficult to determine where >> my problem lays. New Weber 45, new cam, new >> alternator, new electonic distributor to name those >> relevant to current problem. >> >> Right now the engine will turn over smoothly, but only >> fire on a single cylinder every 4 or 5 revolutions. >> The block was re-assembled by a good shop, so I'm >> going to assume cam timing is at least close enough to >> run. >> >> I rolled the engine to #1 piston at TDC, then checked >> to make certain the distributor was postioned close to >> the #1 terminal, and then the wires were 1342. Just to >> double check...is the #1 cylinder the one furthest >> from the firewall? >> >> Where can a dummy find some more engine timing trouble >> shooting tips? >> >> Joe >> 62 Sprite >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________________________________ >> Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. >> http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ >> _______________________________________________ >> jlaird237 at cox.net >> >> Edit your replies >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.1/889 - Release Date: 7/6/2007 >> 8:00 PM > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.2/890 - Release Date: 7/7/2007 > 3:26 PM From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 14:10:11 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 15:10:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil leak Message-ID: <43840a7e0707081310gb24bcbam8276f9bb3b1734bb@mail.gmail.com> Gang, I may not get to this for a while due to other commitments (like painting the house, moving to Georgia, and working on the Lake of the Ozarks Golden Anniversary). I'm used to working with motorcycles where it is relatively easy to see everything. On the Midget 1275 its another story. Anyway, what's a good way to track down an oil leak? I'm not talking small leak here... I expect some leakage on a Brit car. I'm talking 30 miles to the quart here. I'm hoping to find a way to diagnose the source of the leak so I can tell whether I just need to tighten the oil pan bolts. Or if I'm getting leakage at the stinking back plate and oil pump cover and need to pull the motor/tranny again to get to it. Last year I installed a brand new alloy back plate from APT and I thought I had that all sealed up. Maybe not..... I'm thinking maybe go to a pressure car wash, bath the engine, tranny, and pan in Simple Green, and hose it off. Then crawl under and see where the Castrol Fountain is coming from.... Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 14:24:10 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 14:24:10 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil leak In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0707081310gb24bcbam8276f9bb3b1734bb@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0707081310gb24bcbam8276f9bb3b1734bb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707081324o3c19de2djd430533c4a81abc@mail.gmail.com> First check the fitting for the pressure gauge on the right side of the block, behind the dizzy. I dunno if you can get a quart out in 30 miles and still have good pressure on the gauge, but it is a start. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 14:26:07 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 14:26:07 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Support vehicle? Message-ID: <5f00d9910707081326h581243afv7f3aa74af5920321@mail.gmail.com> NIF, just looks like something the Spridgeteer could use: http://batonrouge.craigslist.org/car/368883412.html From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Sun Jul 8 14:42:17 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 15:42:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Support vehicle? References: <5f00d9910707081326h581243afv7f3aa74af5920321@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00af01c7c1a0$79e9ebd0$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> PERFECT for Team White Trash, right Ron??!!??!! From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 14:49:22 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 14:49:22 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Support vehicle? In-Reply-To: <00af01c7c1a0$79e9ebd0$6501a8c0@actualshop> References: <5f00d9910707081326h581243afv7f3aa74af5920321@mail.gmail.com> <00af01c7c1a0$79e9ebd0$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707081349k3df84a41me402c19377e5a49f@mail.gmail.com> You might need to have a split personality to drive Spridgets on the racetrack and then drive that truck on the roads. > PERFECT for Team White Trash, right Ron??!!??!! > > From htpc2 at comcast.net Sun Jul 8 15:57:27 2007 From: htpc2 at comcast.net (Rick) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 16:57:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] air cleaner housing finish Message-ID: <016401c7c1aa$fb340540$6400a8c0@htpc> Hello list, Thanks for the help on the rear clunk, nowe I have an easy question...What's the corect paint for a '65 air cleaner, it's not gloss black, what is it? Mine is original and looks tough could use a good refinishing..... Thanks Rick From smarc at smarc.net Sun Jul 8 16:22:29 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 18:22:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] midget car, mountain of work Message-ID: <469163A5.30306@smarc.net> Still toiling away on this little car... Took some time to work with the steering rack. I worked some 90wt gear oil in there, and it is definitely loosened up quite a bit. ran it back and forth a while, and it's pretty smooth now. Got boots on, and have about 4 oz of 90wt in there now. How much should be in there? I looked in my books, but was unable to find that info... Since it's all apart, radiator out and all, it's getting a new belt and hoses, thermostat, etc. While removing the belt, we noticed there was a _lot_ of slop in the water pump shaft, so I pulled it out for replacement. Looks like an aluminum housing with a rubber impeller, so sure thats not original. Are there any cast iron replacement pumps out there? If I hadn't pulled the pump, I would never have noticed the little 3 inch long hose from the bottom of the head to the pump. It was a really nasty old piece too! What size hose is that? And is it the same as to the heater core? -- Marc From pythias at pacifier.com Sun Jul 8 16:37:10 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 15:37:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] midget car, mountain of work In-Reply-To: <469163A5.30306@smarc.net> References: <469163A5.30306@smarc.net> Message-ID: <836359364.20070708153710@pacifier.com> Hello Marc, all i can find is that every 10,000 miles, 10 strokes of an oil gun filled with oil to "reference B". Reference B says.. Below 10 degree F down to 10 degrees F Duckman's Hypoid 90 blah blah blah 80 wt -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite From mconn2 at bright.net Sun Jul 8 17:49:59 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 19:49:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC...Looking for SeaDoo Info. FIXED! References: <00c201c7bbe8$887e16c0$0600a8c0@Dell9200><007201c7bcfb$145ab2d0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> <013b01c7bd1a$fa8889c0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> Message-ID: <000601c7c1ba$b3401e30$e334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Mark, I suspect that what I'm about to say will annoy people. Please, picture the scene. A quiet secluded house on a lake in Michigan: the house itself is on the land some way away from the lake. Suddendly, at the week-ends, seadoos start up. The noise is unbelieveable. Somebody reported it to the police, and we don't hear them any more. (We had the same problem with ATV's. I talked to the drivers, and we're not bothered by them any more.) I recall seeing small fishing boats rocking about in the waves made by seedoo's. I understand the waves made by these craft also cause lake banks to collapse. Seems a bit sad to me that people would want to do that. Aren't there large areas of water where seedoos can go, and not disturb other people? Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark" To: ; "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 10:36 PM Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC...Looking for SeaDoo Info. FIXED! > Thanks for all of the Sea-Doo tips and tricks. As you may recall it ran > fine on the trailer but not in the water. We found that it had a cracked > rubber exhaust pipe hose. Apparently when the seat was installed there > was > enough exhaust gas filling the engine compartment that it displaced the O2 > and just didn't have enough air to breathe. We found a smudge on the side > of the boat where the exhaust and water was leaking. The air intake for > the > carb is on the under side of the air box and was just sucking in exhaust > gasses. $6 worth of hose and all is well, we now know that all of the > other stuff is ok too. > > Thanks for the help, my Daughter thinks that Dad can fix anything, she > doesn't know about you guys! > > Mark > Nashville > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 18:15:33 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 18:15:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC...Looking for SeaDoo Info. FIXED! In-Reply-To: <000601c7c1ba$b3401e30$e334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> References: <00c201c7bbe8$887e16c0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> <007201c7bcfb$145ab2d0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> <013b01c7bd1a$fa8889c0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> <000601c7c1ba$b3401e30$e334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707081715k24a092dfrd99817fe69de7bb4@mail.gmail.com> > Seems a bit sad to me that people would want to do that. Aren't there > large areas of water where seedoos can go, and not disturb other people? > > Michael No, you kinda have to be a boater to understand. I have a boat and have owned a Jet Ski. The Kawasaki 1100 is about 10 feet long and puts out about 120 horsepower stock. It goes 0-60 in about two seconds or 75 feet. BUT, the trouble with the things is the the operators don't have a clue what they're doing. I'm going 45 in my 18 foot 1500 pound boat. The Jet Ski lunatics are going 60, getting way too close, swerving and acting generally stupid. They don't realize that I have no brakes. Even if I bury the throttle in reverse, I'm gonna go forward for a bit before I start slowing. They are scaring the crap out of me and I'm the one who is going to win the battle if we meet. They are uber annoying to boaters. Now, on the other hand, going 0-60 in two seconds on water is exciting. Jet Skis are really fun. You can jump a wave, bury the thing UNDER water and keep going until it pops back up. You can be going 60 to the North and in under 4 seconds be going 60 to the South. However, Jet Skis should really not be operated around boats unless they observe the same safety rules as boats. Those of you up North in Yankeeland can relate Jet Skis to those 110MPH snowmobiles that the lunatics use up there when it is frozen. There are many safe, courteous Jet Ski owners out there. But, they are outnumbered by way too many lunatics who make Jet Skis the scourge of the water. Picture a suicidal person racing a Bugeye around Indianapolis Motor Speedway against 25 Mack tanker trucks, each tank 1/2 full of water. From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 18:24:52 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 19:24:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC...Looking for SeaDoo Info. FIXED! References: <00c201c7bbe8$887e16c0$0600a8c0@Dell9200><007201c7bcfb$145ab2d0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx><013b01c7bd1a$fa8889c0$0600a8c0@Dell9200><000601c7c1ba$b3401e30$e334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <5f00d9910707081715k24a092dfrd99817fe69de7bb4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <007701c7c1bf$920edb70$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> Half full of GAS would be more "fun" to watch, derf!!! From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 18:31:20 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 18:31:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC...Looking for SeaDoo Info. FIXED! In-Reply-To: <007701c7c1bf$920edb70$6501a8c0@actualshop> References: <00c201c7bbe8$887e16c0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> <007201c7bcfb$145ab2d0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> <013b01c7bd1a$fa8889c0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> <000601c7c1ba$b3401e30$e334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <5f00d9910707081715k24a092dfrd99817fe69de7bb4@mail.gmail.com> <007701c7c1bf$920edb70$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707081731v5cd2d2ci2fef6320136da319@mail.gmail.com> Well, that was the only analogy I could think of to relate the feeling. I know a guy who clobbered a Jet Ski that just passed him (on the right) and veered right in front of the 19ft bowrider he was driving. He and his two sons had to rescue the Jet Ski driver from drowning and get him to the landing for the ambulance ride to the hospital. The driver lived but the boat driver doesn't understand how. The boat was going about 50 and cut the Jet Ski in half right in the middle of the port side. Lotsa fun, but please stay away from real boats when you're hot dogging it. Cheers, Derf From jlaird237 at cox.net Sun Jul 8 18:31:48 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 19:31:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil leak References: <43840a7e0707081310gb24bcbam8276f9bb3b1734bb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000601c7c1c0$89a67e60$6401a8c0@personal> Roger that, get everything real clean first, put a peice of cardboard under the car and see where to look. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 3:10 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Oil leak > Gang, > > I may not get to this for a while due to other commitments (like > painting the house, moving to Georgia, and working on the Lake of the > Ozarks Golden Anniversary). I'm used to working with motorcycles > where it is relatively easy to see everything. On the Midget 1275 its > another story. > > Anyway, what's a good way to track down an oil leak? I'm not talking > small leak here... I expect some leakage on a Brit car. I'm talking > 30 miles to the quart here. > > I'm hoping to find a way to diagnose the source of the leak so I can > tell whether I just need to tighten the oil pan bolts. Or if I'm > getting leakage at the stinking back plate and oil pump cover and need > to pull the motor/tranny again to get to it. Last year I installed a > brand new alloy back plate from APT and I thought I had that all > sealed up. Maybe not..... > > I'm thinking maybe go to a pressure car wash, bath the engine, tranny, > and pan in Simple Green, and hose it off. Then crawl under and see > where the Castrol Fountain is coming from.... > > Cheers!! > Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.2/890 - Release Date: 7/7/2007 > 3:26 PM From jlaird237 at cox.net Sun Jul 8 18:34:58 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 19:34:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] midget car, mountain of work References: <469163A5.30306@smarc.net> Message-ID: <001d01c7c1c0$faaa87f0$6401a8c0@personal> As I remember a peice of fuel line works fine. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 5:22 PM Subject: [Spridgets] midget car, mountain of work > Still toiling away on this little car... > > Took some time to work with the steering rack. I worked some 90wt gear > oil in there, and it is definitely loosened up quite a bit. ran it back > and forth a while, and it's pretty smooth now. Got boots on, and have > about 4 oz of 90wt in there now. How much should be in there? I looked > in my books, but was unable to find that info... > > Since it's all apart, radiator out and all, it's getting a new belt and > hoses, thermostat, etc. While removing the belt, we noticed there was a > _lot_ of slop in the water pump shaft, so I pulled it out for > replacement. Looks like an aluminum housing with a rubber impeller, so > sure thats not original. Are there any cast iron replacement pumps out > there? > > If I hadn't pulled the pump, I would never have noticed the little 3 > inch long hose from the bottom of the head to the pump. It was a really > nasty old piece too! What size hose is that? And is it the same as to > the heater core? > > -- > Marc > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.2/890 - Release Date: 7/7/2007 > 3:26 PM From kidjoevid at yahoo.com Sun Jul 8 18:37:41 2007 From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com (Joe Lansing) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 17:37:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] WAY bad karma Message-ID: <760482.55079.qm@web33204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The LBC gods really, really don't like me today. A little cloud passed by this afternoon and the downdrafts from it sent a couple large tree branches down on my 72 GT6. See the pics at http://www.flickr.com/photos/40542646 at N00/756824577/ Dang - if I had been out cruising in it instead of fighting the timing problem on my Spridget...oh well! Joe Lansing 62 Sprite Former owner 72 GT6 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting From mconn2 at bright.net Sun Jul 8 18:38:09 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 20:38:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC...Looking for SeaDoo Info. FIXED! References: <00c201c7bbe8$887e16c0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> <007201c7bcfb$145ab2d0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> <013b01c7bd1a$fa8889c0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> <000601c7c1ba$b3401e30$e334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <5f00d9910707081715k24a092dfrd99817fe69de7bb4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <01fa01c7c1c1$6d085520$e334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Derf, I enjoyed reading your e-mail. I got a real sense of the fun of these craft. Thank you for that. I guess, my real point is that it's not much fun for those fishing and/or living/staying nearby. Yes, you're right, the idiots spoil it for the safe and courteous owners who are not driving flat out. The secret is to be on a large area of water far away from folks just enjoying the peace and quiet of their surroundings. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "Michael Conn" Cc: "Mark" ; "spridgets" Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC...Looking for SeaDoo Info. FIXED! >> Seems a bit sad to me that people would want to do that. Aren't there >> large areas of water where seedoos can go, and not disturb other people? >> >> Michael > > No, you kinda have to be a boater to understand. I have a boat and > have owned a Jet Ski. The Kawasaki 1100 is about 10 feet long and > puts out about 120 horsepower stock. It goes 0-60 in about two > seconds or 75 feet. BUT, the trouble with the things is the the > operators don't have a clue what they're doing. I'm going 45 in my 18 > foot 1500 pound boat. The Jet Ski lunatics are going 60, getting way > too close, swerving and acting generally stupid. They don't realize > that I have no brakes. Even if I bury the throttle in reverse, I'm > gonna go forward for a bit before I start slowing. They are scaring > the crap out of me and I'm the one who is going to win the battle if > we meet. They are uber annoying to boaters. > Now, on the other hand, going 0-60 in two seconds on water is > exciting. Jet Skis are really fun. You can jump a wave, bury the > thing UNDER water and keep going until it pops back up. You can be > going 60 to the North and in under 4 seconds be going 60 to the South. > However, Jet Skis should really not be operated around boats unless > they observe the same safety rules as boats. > Those of you up North in Yankeeland can relate Jet Skis to those > 110MPH snowmobiles that the lunatics use up there when it is frozen. > There are many safe, courteous Jet Ski owners out there. But, they > are outnumbered by way too many lunatics who make Jet Skis the scourge > of the water. > Picture a suicidal person racing a Bugeye around Indianapolis Motor > Speedway against 25 Mack tanker trucks, each tank 1/2 full of water. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 18:38:31 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 18:38:31 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil leak In-Reply-To: <000601c7c1c0$89a67e60$6401a8c0@personal> References: <43840a7e0707081310gb24bcbam8276f9bb3b1734bb@mail.gmail.com> <000601c7c1c0$89a67e60$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707081738k3e705835p2f1b1e3b5aa87bc3@mail.gmail.com> Hopefully it will be something external, like the pressure gauge fitting or the oil cooler lines or filter adapter. If not, pulling the motor is not that hard on a Spridget. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 18:40:15 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 18:40:15 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC...Looking for SeaDoo Info. FIXED! In-Reply-To: <01fa01c7c1c1$6d085520$e334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> References: <00c201c7bbe8$887e16c0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> <007201c7bcfb$145ab2d0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> <013b01c7bd1a$fa8889c0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> <000601c7c1ba$b3401e30$e334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <5f00d9910707081715k24a092dfrd99817fe69de7bb4@mail.gmail.com> <01fa01c7c1c1$6d085520$e334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707081740i60bd6f17yff068fdc3da5ce92@mail.gmail.com> Water covers over 70% of the Earth. There should be enough room for all. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 18:48:59 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 18:48:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] WAY bad karma In-Reply-To: <760482.55079.qm@web33204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <760482.55079.qm@web33204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707081748w7c28bdfblb15d8a815811810a@mail.gmail.com> Dang, I hate to see that, even if it is a TR. I hope you have good insurance. From mconn2 at bright.net Sun Jul 8 18:49:46 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 20:49:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC...Looking for SeaDoo Info. FIXED! References: <00c201c7bbe8$887e16c0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> <007201c7bcfb$145ab2d0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> <013b01c7bd1a$fa8889c0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> <000601c7c1ba$b3401e30$e334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <5f00d9910707081715k24a092dfrd99817fe69de7bb4@mail.gmail.com> <01fa01c7c1c1$6d085520$e334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <5f00d9910707081740i60bd6f17yff068fdc3da5ce92@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <028401c7c1c3$0cbced00$e334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Derf, Not when its in the "%" near people who are enjoying themselves without the noise. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "Michael Conn" Cc: "spridgets" Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC...Looking for SeaDoo Info. FIXED! > Water covers over 70% of the Earth. > There should be enough room for all. From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Sun Jul 8 18:51:49 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 19:51:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] WAY bad karma In-Reply-To: <760482.55079.qm@web33204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200707090050.l690oKS8002624@ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com> Wild. I'd hate to see what big clouds bring in your neighborhood. Condolences, may the insurance adjuster be generous. Chris 66MKIII Brookfield, WI -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Lansing Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 7:38 PM To: Spitfire/GT6 group; Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] WAY bad karma The LBC gods really, really don't like me today. A little cloud passed by this afternoon and the downdrafts from it sent a couple large tree branches down on my 72 GT6. See the pics at http://www.flickr.com/photos/40542646 at N00/756824577/ Dang - if I had been out cruising in it instead of fighting the timing problem on my Spridget...oh well! Joe Lansing 62 Sprite Former owner 72 GT6 From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Sun Jul 8 06:53:20 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 05:53:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] midget car, mountain of work References: <469163A5.30306@smarc.net> <001d01c7c1c0$faaa87f0$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: <003b01c7c15e$f753cf60$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Short piece of heater hose is best. The bellows type hose currently being sold for that head to water pump bypass are just junk. DON'T use them!! Cast iron or aluminum, there is not one better than the other. The slop in the bearing is unrelated to the cast material. Shot bearings!! These pumps are inexpensive. Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Laird" To: "Marc" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] midget car, mountain of work > As I remember a peice of fuel line works fine. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marc" > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 5:22 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] midget car, mountain of work > > > > Still toiling away on this little car... > > > > Took some time to work with the steering rack. I worked some 90wt gear > > oil in there, and it is definitely loosened up quite a bit. ran it back > > and forth a while, and it's pretty smooth now. Got boots on, and have > > about 4 oz of 90wt in there now. How much should be in there? I looked > > in my books, but was unable to find that info... > > > > Since it's all apart, radiator out and all, it's getting a new belt and > > hoses, thermostat, etc. While removing the belt, we noticed there was a > > _lot_ of slop in the water pump shaft, so I pulled it out for > > replacement. Looks like an aluminum housing with a rubber impeller, so > > sure thats not original. Are there any cast iron replacement pumps out > > there? > > > > If I hadn't pulled the pump, I would never have noticed the little 3 > > inch long hose from the bottom of the head to the pump. It was a really > > nasty old piece too! What size hose is that? And is it the same as to > > the heater core? > > > > -- > > Marc > > _______________________________________________ > > jlaird237 at cox.net > > > > Edit your replies > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.2/890 - Release Date: 7/7/2007 > > 3:26 PM > _______________________________________________ > pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Sun Jul 8 06:54:27 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 05:54:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] midget car, mountain of work References: <469163A5.30306@smarc.net> <001d01c7c1c0$faaa87f0$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: <004901c7c15f$1ebe7280$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Hi Marc, Short piece of heater hose is best. The bellows type hose currently being sold for that head to water pump bypass are just junk. DON'T use them!! Cast iron or aluminum, there is not one better than the other. The slop in the bearing is unrelated to the cast material. Shot bearings!! These pumps are inexpensive. Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Laird" To: "Marc" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] midget car, mountain of work > As I remember a peice of fuel line works fine. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marc" > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 5:22 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] midget car, mountain of work > > > > Still toiling away on this little car... > > > > Took some time to work with the steering rack. I worked some 90wt gear > > oil in there, and it is definitely loosened up quite a bit. ran it back > > and forth a while, and it's pretty smooth now. Got boots on, and have > > about 4 oz of 90wt in there now. How much should be in there? I looked > > in my books, but was unable to find that info... > > > > Since it's all apart, radiator out and all, it's getting a new belt and > > hoses, thermostat, etc. While removing the belt, we noticed there was a > > _lot_ of slop in the water pump shaft, so I pulled it out for > > replacement. Looks like an aluminum housing with a rubber impeller, so > > sure thats not original. Are there any cast iron replacement pumps out > > there? > > > > If I hadn't pulled the pump, I would never have noticed the little 3 > > inch long hose from the bottom of the head to the pump. It was a really > > nasty old piece too! What size hose is that? And is it the same as to > > the heater core? > > > > -- > > Marc From mconn2 at bright.net Sun Jul 8 18:54:55 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 20:54:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC...Looking for SeaDoo Info. FIXED! References: <00c201c7bbe8$887e16c0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> <007201c7bcfb$145ab2d0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> <013b01c7bd1a$fa8889c0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> <000601c7c1ba$b3401e30$e334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <9FC92E9D-0113-1000-999A-1B871145D322-Webmail-10024@mac.com> Message-ID: <029501c7c1c3$c4bfb4f0$e334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Rick & Carolyn, Well said. Thank you. Noise can be a public nuisance. I guess, that's why the police got involved at our lake. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick & Carolyn" To: "Michael Conn" Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC...Looking for SeaDoo Info. FIXED! > Hi All, > > We have the same problem out here. Nine months out of the year our lake > is so quite you can hear the bass jumping. The Summer comes, Look out > everyone the jet skiers are here. Only a couple of months left and they > will retreat to their cities again. > > Some thing else of late that is real annoying is the music. I don't mind > loud music sometimes, but it's absurd. We hear the big stereos on top of > the boats all day long. But thats not too bad, it's when you get six or > seven in a dueling banjo type wars. Now that's really bad. You ever hear > brittney spears rap and the beatles all at once. > > Don't blast me about this, but Boaters could be a little more respectful > to us the year rounds and turn their music down a little. > > Memorial day we had over 2000 boats on our little Don Pedro lake. > Trailers were a mile deep to the lake. It was a major traffic jam to get > them out on Monday, with some waiting over four hours. I think the best > seat in the house was beside the boat ramp. > > Cheers > > Wrongway Ricky > 60 Frog eye "Puddles" > 52 MGTD "Sparky" From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Sun Jul 8 06:59:28 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 05:59:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] WAY bad karma References: <760482.55079.qm@web33204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005101c7c15f$d29236c0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> OUCH!! That's awful! Going to be able to get it fixed by any insurance? Sure hope so. Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Lansing" To: "Spitfire/GT6 group" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 5:37 PM Subject: [Spridgets] WAY bad karma > The LBC gods really, really don't like me today. A > little cloud passed by this afternoon and the > downdrafts from it sent a couple large tree branches > down on my 72 GT6. See the pics at > http://www.flickr.com/photos/40542646 at N00/756824577/ > > Dang - if I had been out cruising in it instead of > fighting the timing problem on my Spridget...oh well! > > Joe Lansing > 62 Sprite > Former owner 72 GT6 From pythias at pacifier.com Sun Jul 8 19:22:54 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 18:22:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] WAY bad karma In-Reply-To: <760482.55079.qm@web33204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <760482.55079.qm@web33204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1079385431.20070708182254@pacifier.com> Hello Joe, just curious, but do you have collector car insurance for it?.. as in hagerty? .... my experiences with them have been nothing short of STELLAR! really they seem more interested in getting the car(s) fixed than in what its gonna cost. -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 19:27:34 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 19:27:34 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] WAY bad karma In-Reply-To: <1079385431.20070708182254@pacifier.com> References: <760482.55079.qm@web33204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1079385431.20070708182254@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707081827t312e12ffpc4405b3520b74d35@mail.gmail.com> Hagerty requires a fully enclosed garage, although I guess you could tell them you parked it there for a short while. From smarc at smarc.net Sun Jul 8 19:50:01 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 21:50:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] WAY bad karma In-Reply-To: <1079385431.20070708182254@pacifier.com> References: <760482.55079.qm@web33204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1079385431.20070708182254@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <46919449.4030303@smarc.net> Thats a cryin shame!!! BTW, I found Hagerty was pretty decent to deal with on a recent claim I put in. Marc Bill L wrote: > Hello Joe, > > just curious, but do you have collector car insurance for it?.. > as in hagerty? .... > > my experiences with them have been nothing short of STELLAR! > really they seem more interested in getting the car(s) fixed > than in what its gonna cost. From smarc at smarc.net Sun Jul 8 19:52:00 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 21:52:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] torque spec for brake hose? Message-ID: <469194C0.2030804@smarc.net> Is there a specified torque for brake hose banjo bolt to caliper? I can't find one anywhere. If not, is there a good guide line? -- Marc From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 8 19:55:42 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 18:55:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Support vehicle? In-Reply-To: <00af01c7c1a0$79e9ebd0$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <17510.20515.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- 63AHBJ7 <63AHBJ7 at comcast.net> wrote: > PERFECT for Team White Trash, right Ron??!!??!! I'm currently trying to talk the Mrs. into a lime-green ambulance that's been converted to tow vehicle. Way cooler than that. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ From smarc at smarc.net Sun Jul 8 19:54:50 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 21:54:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] midget car, mountain of work In-Reply-To: <004901c7c15f$1ebe7280$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <469163A5.30306@smarc.net> <001d01c7c1c0$faaa87f0$6401a8c0@personal> <004901c7c15f$1ebe7280$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <4691956A.4030106@smarc.net> Ok, thanks. I ask as I was advised to avoid aluminum pumps for the mgb as the ear that mounts the alternator breaks off them... Marc Paul Asgeirsson wrote: > Hi Marc, > > Short piece of heater hose is best. The bellows type hose currently being > sold for that head to water pump bypass are just junk. DON'T use them!! > > Cast iron or aluminum, there is not one better than the other. The slop in > the bearing is unrelated to the cast material. Shot bearings!! These pumps > are inexpensive. > > Paul A > > >>> >>> Since it's all apart, radiator out and all, it's getting a new belt and >>> hoses, thermostat, etc. While removing the belt, we noticed there was a >>> _lot_ of slop in the water pump shaft, so I pulled it out for >>> replacement. Looks like an aluminum housing with a rubber impeller, so >>> sure thats not original. Are there any cast iron replacement pumps out >>> there? From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jul 8 20:01:43 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 22:01:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil leak In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0707081310gb24bcbam8276f9bb3b1734bb@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0707081310gb24bcbam8276f9bb3b1734bb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46919707.4060004@comcast.net> Jim, Simple Green doesn't do anything to oil, or even dirty fingerprints, use a REAL cleaner like Castrol Superclean. Are you running a PCV system? If not, you are blowing the oil out. BTDT and each 1275 is different. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From mconn2 at bright.net Sun Jul 8 20:03:50 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 22:03:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Support vehicle? References: <17510.20515.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002101c7c1cd$658a5710$e334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Ron, Are you sure a lime green ambulance is cool. My AN5 is lime green at the moment, and it's horrible! (I hasten to add the lime green was not my doing. I'm still trying to get it changed.) Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "63AHBJ7" <63AHBJ7 at comcast.net>; "Spridgets List" Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Support vehicle? > --- 63AHBJ7 <63AHBJ7 at comcast.net> wrote: >> PERFECT for Team White Trash, right Ron??!!??!! > > I'm currently trying to talk the Mrs. into a > lime-green ambulance that's been converted to tow > vehicle. Way cooler than that. > > Ron > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. > Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. > http://sims.yahoo.com/ > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jul 8 20:02:46 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 22:02:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] air cleaner housing finish In-Reply-To: <016401c7c1aa$fb340540$6400a8c0@htpc> References: <016401c7c1aa$fb340540$6400a8c0@htpc> Message-ID: <46919746.6060701@comcast.net> Rick wrote: > Hello list, > > Thanks for the help on the rear clunk, nowe I have an easy question...What's > the corect paint for a '65 air cleaner, it's not gloss black, what is it? Mine Semi gloss black -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jul 8 20:06:53 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 22:06:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] midget car, mountain of work In-Reply-To: <469163A5.30306@smarc.net> References: <469163A5.30306@smarc.net> Message-ID: <4691983D.2060306@comcast.net> 1/2" heater hose but cut it just a bit short so you can sneak it out if you ever have to replace it with the head and/or water pump still on the engine. Like others said, don't even think about that replacement bellows hose or just carry a couple dozen of them as spares. I have been using aluminum water pumps since the 70s, never a problem. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From jlaird237 at cox.net Sun Jul 8 20:21:07 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 21:21:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] WAY bad karma References: <760482.55079.qm@web33204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001e01c7c1cf$cf19bcf0$6401a8c0@personal> Oh what a bad day. Sorry, I feel your pain. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Lansing" To: "Spitfire/GT6 group" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 7:37 PM Subject: [Spridgets] WAY bad karma > The LBC gods really, really don't like me today. A > little cloud passed by this afternoon and the > downdrafts from it sent a couple large tree branches > down on my 72 GT6. See the pics at > http://www.flickr.com/photos/40542646 at N00/756824577/ > > Dang - if I had been out cruising in it instead of > fighting the timing problem on my Spridget...oh well! > > Joe Lansing > 62 Sprite > Former owner 72 GT6 > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all > the tools to get online. > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.2/890 - Release Date: 7/7/2007 > 3:26 PM From shelden3 at pldi.net Sun Jul 8 20:48:05 2007 From: shelden3 at pldi.net (Charlie Shelden) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 21:48:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] fuel pump flow Message-ID: <002f01c7c1d3$932d7ac0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> My father inlaw calls he is stuck on the highway about 10 miles away and says his 72 Midget is dead. I go out and it starts but won't go more than a mile, acts fuel starved. I pulled the gas cap, it didn't do any better sputtered about the same distance etc... Pulled the fuel supply line and it just trickles out to a steady tiny stream of fuel. How much should be coming out? Here is his setup: 1. 1275 w DCOE 45 2. electronic SU pump (non point) 3. fuel filter pre pump inline 4. fuel filter pre carb 5. tank cleaned one year ago using the eastwood cleaner kit (internal pickup filter removed) I'm thinking with the clean tank it shouldn't be getting to much pre pump but with the flow i'm not to sure. I've not gone over to look at it yet but will in the next day. So what is a good judge to go by on the output of his pump? Possible the metal line is gunked that feeds under the car? Thanks, Charlie OKC,OK -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1765 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 20:59:55 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 20:59:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] fuel pump flow In-Reply-To: <002f01c7c1d3$932d7ac0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> References: <002f01c7c1d3$932d7ac0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707081959xa1f9affqd17a5d985917fa8e@mail.gmail.com> The pump should fill a cup in around 10 seconds, maybe. Pull the filters and try to blow through them. You should be able to without too much trouble. Cheers, Derf From shelden3 at pldi.net Sun Jul 8 21:04:33 2007 From: shelden3 at pldi.net (Charlie Shelden) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 22:04:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] fuel pump flow References: <002f01c7c1d3$932d7ac0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> <5f00d9910707081959xa1f9affqd17a5d985917fa8e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <004c01c7c1d5$e0741fd0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> Well a cup huh? Dang, was hoping you would say drink a bottle of Newcastle Brown and it should fill in 10sec or something. > The pump should fill a cup in around 10 seconds, maybe. > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1765 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len From froggi60 at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 21:12:01 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 20:12:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Front Suspension Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10707082012g4f12fb9fj9d00e64a25eb2a83@mail.gmail.com> Spridgeteers; Where or who's the best source for front end components, mainly neoprene (type) 'goodies'. Rear wheel cylinders as well. S/S lines too. Getting ready to change over to disc brakes on FROGGI but want everything "right". Also, any reason NOT to have said components powder coated? (apart from keeping it out of bores) And...is it 3/4" for disc and 7/8" for drums? (or do I have it reversed?) Thanks, WFO Herb Keep the sticky side down! From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Sun Jul 8 21:17:24 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 22:17:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] fuel pump flow References: <002f01c7c1d3$932d7ac0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx><5f00d9910707081959xa1f9affqd17a5d985917fa8e@mail.gmail.com> <004c01c7c1d5$e0741fd0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> Message-ID: <00e601c7c1d7$b0abd890$6501a8c0@actualshop> er, Charlie... <> DO THAT FIRST!!!! Do NOT start the job without doing so!!! The job WILL fail!!!!! And GAS goes in the "cup"!!! Anon From b-evans at earthlink.net Sun Jul 8 21:55:25 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 20:55:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tesla--the electric Lotus Elise Message-ID: <380-2200771935525375@earthlink.net> Yep, it's electric. But at 0 to 60 in 4 seconds, not like any electric you have seen before. Vital statistics Model Tesla Roadster Engine -- Electric motor powered by lithium-ion battery Power -- 248bhp @ 8000rpm Torque -- 200 lb ft @ 0-6000rpm Transmission -- Two-speed manual CO2 -- n/a Acceleration -- 60mph: 4sec Top speed -- 130mph Price -- $98,000 (#48,600) http://tinyurl.com/yq8udc From mgraziano at austin.rr.com Sun Jul 8 22:10:23 2007 From: mgraziano at austin.rr.com (MGraziano) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 23:10:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: MG TC for sale in Austin Message-ID: <008a01c7c1df$12cf1ee0$6501a8c0@andrometer> _____ From: Duckaduck at aol.com [mailto:Duckaduck at aol.com] Subject: MG TC for sale in Austin Here is the ebay listing for the MG TC that my father-in-law is selling. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-T-Series-MG-TC-1947-MG-TC_W0QQcmdZViewItem QQcategoryZ31858QQihZ005QQitemZ150140323036QQrdZ1 I pulled out most of the parts and pictures are available on the listing. It would be great if someone in Austin was looking for a project like this. It is structurally intact and rolled easily out of the garage today when we took the pictures. I do have 4 brand new tires which have never been on the ground and have been stored in the dark. Let me know if you have any questions. Bill Howland _____ See what's free at AOL.com . From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 22:24:04 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 22:24:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Front Suspension In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10707082012g4f12fb9fj9d00e64a25eb2a83@mail.gmail.com> References: <2ad6c6b10707082012g4f12fb9fj9d00e64a25eb2a83@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707082124v2bc0a956y3223825f7f8100e0@mail.gmail.com> Peter C at World Wide www.nosimport.com Paul A at Morriservice. Ed at justbrits.com From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 22:26:29 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 22:26:29 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Tesla--the electric Lotus Elise In-Reply-To: <380-2200771935525375@earthlink.net> References: <380-2200771935525375@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707082126y775418bbu15e467e799d48ba2@mail.gmail.com> DC motors make uber instant torque. You think you break axles now? Just put a DC motor in your Spridget. From dmg at bossig.com Sun Jul 8 22:32:44 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 21:32:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tesla--the electric Lotus Elise In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707082126y775418bbu15e467e799d48ba2@mail.gmail.com> References: <380-2200771935525375@earthlink.net>, <5f00d9910707082126y775418bbu15e467e799d48ba2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <469157FC.2085.3017EC8@dmg.bossig.com> On 8 Jul 2007 at 22:26, derf wrote: >> Just put a DC motor in your Spridget. I got one in mine.... but it's called a generator ;^) Pity it's too small even for a go-cart - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Sun Jul 8 10:59:37 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 09:59:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tesla--the electric Lotus Elise References: <380-2200771935525375@earthlink.net> <5f00d9910707082126y775418bbu15e467e799d48ba2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <003701c7c181$5ee730a0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> That's true. I do maintenence on a 15HP DC motor (GREAT BIG sucker) that runs a blower. To get it to start up without that shock, current first goes through a bank of resistors, that drop off one at a time until it's up to full speed. Just like the trolleys did with the motorman handling the controller and on later trolley cars with a foot throttle. I wonder if the automobiles have the banks of resistors to insure a gradual start up or if it's being done a newer way today? Anyone know? Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: Cc: ; ; Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 9:26 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tesla--the electric Lotus Elise > DC motors make uber instant torque. You think you break axles now? > Just put a DC motor in your Spridget. From dmg at bossig.com Sun Jul 8 23:07:33 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 22:07:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tesla--the electric Lotus Elise In-Reply-To: <003701c7c181$5ee730a0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <380-2200771935525375@earthlink.net>, <003701c7c181$5ee730a0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <46916025.22579.3215B66@dmg.bossig.com> You could do it using high power SCR's with crowbar circuitry... Similar to light dimmer controllers On 8 Jul 2007 at 9:59, Paul Asgeirsson wrote: >> or if it's being done a newer way today? Anyone know? - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From efrenken at lctax.de Mon Jul 9 01:47:47 2007 From: efrenken at lctax.de (Frenken, Eric) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 09:47:47 +0200 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine timing - Mini123 dizzy Message-ID: <8F0D0744B564D511B0820002A551BB1A9098C3@lc-d-3.lctax.ads> Joe, the LED lights through any hole, not one dedicated hole. So check all 4 holes when turning the dizzy. In case the LED won't light anymore and you don't have spark at the spark plugs you must send the unit back to have new electronics fitted. The most likely reason for that is you have had reversed connections. Did you touch a hot wire with the black cable? Even the slightest moment of reversed connections will destroy the electronics inside. @derf: The LED lights with black cable connected, too. For some reason (precaution?) the producer wants the cable to be disconnected before turning the dizzy. Regards Eric Frenken 123ignition dealership http://brits-n-pieces.com -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net]Im Auftrag von Joe Lansing Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. Juli 2007 19:44 An: Spridgets Betreff: [Spridgets] Engine timing - Mini123 dizzy OK - After checking, I'm pretty sure I was setting static timing with #4 at TDC, not #1. I bumped the engine until I got timing marks to line up again, both valves on #1 closed, and I found the rotor pointed 180 degrees from #1. So I pulled the distributor and rotated the shaft 180 deg. Now, I can't get the LED in the Mini123 dizzy to light up. Does it always show in the same hole? I tried rotating it thru roughly 200 degrees and no LED lit up. I can see with a mirror what I believe is the LED port (just about where it was when I had the shaft 180 degrees opposite) but it never lights up. Do I check different holes? Is there one, or more LED's? Any help appreciated! Joe [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s] From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jul 9 06:29:27 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 06:29:27 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Tesla--the electric Lotus Elise In-Reply-To: <003701c7c181$5ee730a0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <380-2200771935525375@earthlink.net> <5f00d9910707082126y775418bbu15e467e799d48ba2@mail.gmail.com> <003701c7c181$5ee730a0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707090529q6cea35e9tebf505db92e0f6dd@mail.gmail.com> > I wonder if the automobiles have the banks of resistors to insure a gradual > start up or if it's being done a newer way today? Anyone know? > Usually semiconductor controlled variable voltage, I think. Same concept as the resistors, just different means of dropping the voltage. From pythias at pacifier.com Mon Jul 9 06:56:12 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 05:56:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Front Suspension In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10707082012g4f12fb9fj9d00e64a25eb2a83@mail.gmail.com> References: <2ad6c6b10707082012g4f12fb9fj9d00e64a25eb2a83@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <938297814.20070709055612@pacifier.com> Hello WFO, 3/4" for disc .. 7/8 for drum.. i just let my spare go to Peter S. .. see ya in Portland this year? -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jul 9 07:27:31 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 07:27:31 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] License plate bracket, before it goes to ebay $25 shipped, OBO Message-ID: <5f00d9910707090627m36a260c5kf6989f41e49aecf4@mail.gmail.com> This is from a RB car but can be used to replace the unit on late CB cars. This is plug and play if you want to remove the bumpers on late CBs that had the license plate lights in the bumpers. Condition is good, not a show winner, but good for a daily driver. Metal very good, chrome good, lenses good, electrical good, rubber fair. The lenses on these form the base for the bulb socket and these lenses are both good in that respect. Many you find will be cracked or broken in the bulb mounting area. Of course you can also use this on a Spitfidget (RB car). Pic: http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/dovco/MGStuff/rear3.jpg?t=1183987572 From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jul 9 07:41:24 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 07:41:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] New Black Convertible Top $250 Shipped, OBO, before it goes to ebay. Message-ID: <5f00d9910707090641v440dd50cy166ebcf70c035478@mail.gmail.com> I just unearthed a top that I won't be needing. VB part # 9-327-BB new in unopened box, "Vinyl Cloth Convertible" top by Robbins. VB sells for $319.95. According to box it fits Sprite 70-71 and Midget 70-80 I can take a pic but it is just a white box with dust on it. Cheers, Derf From healeymonster at fastwave.biz Mon Jul 9 07:48:46 2007 From: healeymonster at fastwave.biz (Ed Townley) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 07:48:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye windscreen revisited Message-ID: <01bd01c7c22f$e1226e50$6401a8c0@main> Got no responses to the original message on this subject-maybe too mundane? Thought I would try again-- I am about to install the Windscreen on the RHD project car-wondering if it is easier to install in frame on bench, or after mounting frame on body?? Opinions? Thanks, Ed in Southern NM, USA 59 AN5 59 AN5 RHD From duncan at pondhop.com Mon Jul 9 07:54:16 2007 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 08:54:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye windscreen revisited In-Reply-To: <01bd01c7c22f$e1226e50$6401a8c0@main> References: <01bd01c7c22f$e1226e50$6401a8c0@main> Message-ID: <009a01c7c230$a40c5980$ec250c80$@com> Definitely fit glass to frame first then fit the whole unit to the car. I don't know if the other way is even possible. Duncan -----Original Message----- From: Ed Townley [mailto:healeymonster at fastwave.biz] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 8:49 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye windscreen revisited Got no responses to the original message on this subject-maybe too mundane? Thought I would try again-- I am about to install the Windscreen on the RHD project car-wondering if it is easier to install in frame on bench, or after mounting frame on body?? Opinions? Thanks, Ed in Southern NM, USA 59 AN5 59 AN5 RHD _______________________________________________ duncan at pondhop.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From John.Deikis at va.gov Mon Jul 9 08:38:47 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 10:38:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] what bolt is it? In-Reply-To: <006a01c7c042$9cfe1420$f2f6f904@D1PWFG61> References: <4885778.1183725170878.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net><00bc01c7c038$fa7d3680$6501a8c0@actualshop> <006a01c7c042$9cfe1420$f2f6f904@D1PWFG61> Message-ID: Could that be Grade "0" ? ("Suitable for applications requiring clamping force not to exceed a duration of 12,000 miles or 1 year, whichever comes first.") -----Original Message----- From: MICHAEL CARPENTER [mailto:MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 10:58 PM To: 63AHBJ7; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] what bolt is it? Are you afraid of the strength or what is your reasoning. I prefer not to have clutch parts flying where they shouldn't be. Also how do you know what grade they used? All that I ever see on a British bolt is a circle in the head of the bolt. What grade is that? Mike C ----- Original Message ----- From: "63AHBJ7" <63ahbj7 at gmail.com> To: Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 9:48 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] what bolt is it? > Mike, etal. > > < hardware > store.>> > > For the LAST time: There are NO, NADA, NONE, Grade 8 fasteners on ANY > Frogeye > or Spridget (or MGs of age, Big Healeys, Triumphs, etc.)!! > > NOR should there be!!! > > Ed From egnorant at dctexas.net Mon Jul 9 10:06:10 2007 From: egnorant at dctexas.net (Bruce Lowry) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 11:06:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tesla--the electric Lotus Elise References: <380-2200771935525375@earthlink.net><5f00d9910707082126y775418bbu15e467e799d48ba2@mail.gmail.com> <003701c7c181$5ee730a0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <002201c7c243$17929bf0$37990e0c@lowrybruce> Resistors are old tech! Newer type is a "chopper" circuit that actually turns power on and off for an average power. It uses too much energy and makes heat which is bad. Mechanical switches and brushes...primitive but effective. Even newer tech is a transistorised version that can modulate the frequency and the width for these power pulses (on or off). These cause the growl or whistle you hear as the motor revs up. Newest works on the same principle but uses MOSFETS (metal oxide semiconductor field effect transistors) which still work on the same chopper effect, but with greater efficiency and control over the pulse width and frequency. These are used on all those little wheelchair things running around. These can be adjusted for load so that when we "floor it" it doesn't just go to the highest setting and snap axles. I was going to build a hybrid in a 66 Sprite, but could not bring myself to do the cutting nessesary. Now I have a 95 Aspire that may get the nod. Bruce > That's true. I do maintenence on a 15HP DC motor (GREAT BIG sucker) that > runs a blower. To get it to start up without that shock, current first > goes > through a bank of resistors, that drop off one at a time until it's up to > full speed. Just like the trolleys did with the motorman handling the > controller and on later trolley cars with a foot throttle. > > I wonder if the automobiles have the banks of resistors to insure a > gradual > start up or if it's being done a newer way today? Anyone know? > > Paul A From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jul 9 10:31:10 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 10:31:10 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Tesla--the electric Lotus Elise In-Reply-To: <002201c7c243$17929bf0$37990e0c@lowrybruce> References: <380-2200771935525375@earthlink.net> <5f00d9910707082126y775418bbu15e467e799d48ba2@mail.gmail.com> <003701c7c181$5ee730a0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <002201c7c243$17929bf0$37990e0c@lowrybruce> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707090931i73df60e2o39eee8c45e97f9a5@mail.gmail.com> I've seen electric MGs on the net. http://ziggr.com/ev/expo97/EVMidget.JPG http://nbeaa.org/wing/body_bob_wing_-_ev_pioneer.htm From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Mon Jul 9 10:32:05 2007 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 12:32:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] what bolt is it? Message-ID: <14320426.1183998725440.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I think that I saw you race yesterday at Beaverun. Was your orange MG up there? Mike -----Original Message----- >From: "Deikis, John G" >Sent: Jul 9, 2007 10:38 AM >To: MICHAEL CARPENTER , 63AHBJ7 <63ahbj7 at gmail.com>, spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: RE: [Spridgets] what bolt is it? > > >Could that be Grade "0" ? >("Suitable for applications requiring clamping force not to exceed a >duration of 12,000 miles or 1 year, whichever comes first.") > > >-----Original Message----- >From: MICHAEL CARPENTER [mailto:MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com] >Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 10:58 PM >To: 63AHBJ7; spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] what bolt is it? > >Are you afraid of the strength or what is your reasoning. I prefer not >to >have clutch parts flying where they shouldn't be. > >Also how do you know what grade they used? All that I ever see on a >British >bolt is a circle in the head of the bolt. What grade is that? > >Mike C >----- Original Message ----- >From: "63AHBJ7" <63ahbj7 at gmail.com> >To: >Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 9:48 PM >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] what bolt is it? > > >> Mike, etal. >> >> <> hardware >> store.>> >> >> For the LAST time: There are NO, NADA, NONE, Grade 8 fasteners on ANY > >> Frogeye >> or Spridget (or MGs of age, Big Healeys, Triumphs, etc.)!! >> >> NOR should there be!!! >> >> Ed ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From John.Deikis at va.gov Mon Jul 9 10:38:59 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 12:38:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] what bolt is it? In-Reply-To: <14320426.1183998725440.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <14320426.1183998725440.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Red, white hardtop, "works" roundels on side, #49. Beating the Pinto and a rat rod green Sprite and not much else. Rick Fisk and I went out there. Nice facility but not really a small bore track. You should have come by the paddock. Come down to Mid Ohio again. I hope to race the VSCDA event in October. John -----Original Message----- From: Mike/Donna Carpenter [mailto:mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 12:32 PM To: Deikis, John G; 63AHBJ7; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Spridgets] what bolt is it? I think that I saw you race yesterday at Beaverun. Was your orange MG up there? Mike -----Original Message----- >From: "Deikis, John G" >Sent: Jul 9, 2007 10:38 AM >To: MICHAEL CARPENTER , 63AHBJ7 <63ahbj7 at gmail.com>, spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: RE: [Spridgets] what bolt is it? > > >Could that be Grade "0" ? >("Suitable for applications requiring clamping force not to exceed a >duration of 12,000 miles or 1 year, whichever comes first.") > > >-----Original Message----- >From: MICHAEL CARPENTER [mailto:MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com] >Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 10:58 PM >To: 63AHBJ7; spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] what bolt is it? > >Are you afraid of the strength or what is your reasoning. I prefer not >to >have clutch parts flying where they shouldn't be. > >Also how do you know what grade they used? All that I ever see on a >British >bolt is a circle in the head of the bolt. What grade is that? > >Mike C >----- Original Message ----- >From: "63AHBJ7" <63ahbj7 at gmail.com> >To: >Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 9:48 PM >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] what bolt is it? > > >> Mike, etal. >> >> <> hardware >> store.>> >> >> For the LAST time: There are NO, NADA, NONE, Grade 8 fasteners on ANY > >> Frogeye >> or Spridget (or MGs of age, Big Healeys, Triumphs, etc.)!! >> >> NOR should there be!!! >> >> Ed ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jul 9 10:50:52 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 09:50:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tesla--the electric Lotus Elise In-Reply-To: <002201c7c243$17929bf0$37990e0c@lowrybruce> Message-ID: > Newer type is a "chopper" circuit that actually turns power on and off That must sound great over a good stereo system. From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Jul 9 11:01:20 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 10:01:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tesla--the electric Lotus Elise References: Message-ID: <000601c7c24a$c5f8e4e0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> The same type of chopper circuit is used to extend battery life in lighting circuits for mountain bikes, spelunkers, etc. It uses the temperature sensitive resistance of the halogen filament to compute the length of the "ON" pulse so no power is wasted beyond the precise needs of the bulb. I built one for my mountain bike light years ago and it worked extremely well. The best part is that no power is wasted as heat as you would find with a bank of resistors, and the power sent to the bulb is just enough to keep it at optimal temperature for good output without excessive bulb temps. Glen Byrns From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Mon Jul 9 11:32:03 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy, Ph.D.) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 12:32:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] WAY bad karma In-Reply-To: <760482.55079.qm@web33204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <760482.55079.qm@web33204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1184002323.46927113f349b@email.ixwebhosting.com> That just stinks. Even if it is a Triumph. Larry Quoting Joe Lansing : > The LBC gods really, really don't like me today. A > little cloud passed by this afternoon and the > downdrafts from it sent a couple large tree branches > down on my 72 GT6. See the pics at > http://www.flickr.com/photos/40542646 at N00/756824577/ > > Dang - if I had been out cruising in it instead of > fighting the timing problem on my Spridget...oh well! > > Joe Lansing > 62 Sprite > Former owner 72 GT6 > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________ ____ > Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all > the tools to get online. > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting > _______________________________________________ > lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at bbl.med.upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. From trevorwj at insightbb.com Mon Jul 9 11:38:09 2007 From: trevorwj at insightbb.com (trevorwj at insightbb.com) Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 13:38:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] WAY bad karma In-Reply-To: <1184002323.46927113f349b@email.ixwebhosting.com> References: <760482.55079.qm@web33204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1184002323.46927113f349b@email.ixwebhosting.com> Message-ID: Yikes!, Time to build a Spit-6? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Macy, Ph.D." Date: Monday, July 9, 2007 13:33 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] WAY bad karma To: Joe Lansing Cc: Spridgets > That just stinks. Even if it is a Triumph. > > Larry > > Quoting Joe Lansing : > > > The LBC gods really, really don't like me today. A > > little cloud passed by this afternoon and the > > downdrafts from it sent a couple large tree branches > > down on my 72 GT6. See the pics at > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/40542646 at N00/756824577/ > > > > Dang - if I had been out cruising in it instead of > > fighting the timing problem on my Spridget...oh well! > > > > Joe Lansing > > 62 Sprite > > Former owner 72 GT6 > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________________ ___ > ____ > > Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business > gives you all > > the tools to get online. > > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting > > _______________________________________________ > > lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > > > Edit your replies > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > > -- > Larry Macy > 78 Midget > > Keep your top down and your chin up. > > Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jul 9 11:56:43 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 13:56:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] WAY bad karma Message-ID: <20070709175643.LDFY3229.tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Can't see the picture from work. ( "Access denied. Not deemed work appropriate" ) The gods must have a current thing for GT6s. I saw one on Friday in front of an LBC garage that I drive by every chance I get. It looked like it had a brake failure ( bad break ) and used a tree or pole to stop the car ... Looked like body damage only. I'm guessing he'll be looking for a bonnet/bumper/grill/ maybe rad. I think I know how you feel. I lost my 3 year old MGB back in about '79 to a storm http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/Bea.htm > Quoting Joe Lansing : > > > The LBC gods really, really don't like me today. A > > little cloud passed by this afternoon and the > > downdrafts from it sent a couple large tree branches > > down on my 72 GT6. See the pics at > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/40542646 at N00/756824577/ > > > > Dang - if I had been out cruising in it instead of > > fighting the timing problem on my Spridget...oh well! > > > > Joe Lansing > > 62 Sprite > > Former owner 72 GT6 From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Mon Jul 9 12:54:50 2007 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 14:54:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] what bolt is it? Message-ID: <26735991.1184007290832.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net> John, I thought that it was red. I don't know why that I typed orange. I guess that I had an orange 1970 that was similar and I had a brain fart. I didn't see you or Rick as I stayed pretty much out on sunday and watched all of the races. I think that it is too small of a track, right? I may see you at Mid-Ohio if I can. Mike -----Original Message----- >From: "Deikis, John G" >Sent: Jul 9, 2007 12:38 PM >To: Mike/Donna Carpenter , spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: RE: [Spridgets] what bolt is it? > >Red, white hardtop, "works" roundels on side, #49. Beating the Pinto and >a rat rod green Sprite and not much else. Rick Fisk and I went out >there. Nice facility but not really a small bore track. You should have >come by the paddock. Come down to Mid Ohio again. I hope to race the >VSCDA event in October. > >John > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mike/Donna Carpenter [mailto:mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com] >Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 12:32 PM >To: Deikis, John G; 63AHBJ7; spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: RE: [Spridgets] what bolt is it? > >I think that I saw you race yesterday at Beaverun. Was your orange MG >up there? > >Mike > >-----Original Message----- >>From: "Deikis, John G" >>Sent: Jul 9, 2007 10:38 AM >>To: MICHAEL CARPENTER , 63AHBJ7 ><63ahbj7 at gmail.com>, spridgets at autox.team.net >>Subject: RE: [Spridgets] what bolt is it? >> >> >>Could that be Grade "0" ? >>("Suitable for applications requiring clamping force not to exceed a >>duration of 12,000 miles or 1 year, whichever comes first.") >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: MICHAEL CARPENTER [mailto:MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com] >>Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 10:58 PM >>To: 63AHBJ7; spridgets at autox.team.net >>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] what bolt is it? >> >>Are you afraid of the strength or what is your reasoning. I prefer not >>to >>have clutch parts flying where they shouldn't be. >> >>Also how do you know what grade they used? All that I ever see on a >>British >>bolt is a circle in the head of the bolt. What grade is that? >> ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Mon Jul 9 18:04:49 2007 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 10:04:49 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] [spridgets-aus] Engine Stands..who has the drawing? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <913306.70038.qm@web50606.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I had the blokes at my work knock me up a fitting for the generator mount. It's the way to go.. allows you to work on the engine with the minimum of hassle, as it is good to have uncluttered access to the rear end of the block. There is a drawing that a lister forwarded me, which I have since deleted. I have forwarded this message to the worldwide list, and perhaps some kind participant can send the drawing to you. It took all of 10 minutes to make, you could even cut/drill the pipe and plate yourself, and ask any welder to join the 2 for you...shouldn't cost more than a 6pack. worth the effort, as the "universal" fittings on the stands are a touch on the fiddly side. Andy gtmahney wrote: I want to bolt my Sprite engine to one of those engine stands with the four adjustable arms. Ultimately, I want to confirm my theory that I've done a big end. Am I right in assuming you bolt the stand to the clutch end of the engine? If so, do I have to remove the clutch? I don't think the tubes on the ends of the arms will reach the engine otherwise? I had a look on the list archives and found that I can fabricate an adaptor to attach the stand to the generator bracket, but as I don't have a welder I'm not keen on that idea. Any suggestions or hints would be appreciated. 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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 9 18:30:16 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 19:30:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [spridgets-aus] Engine Stands..who has the drawing? References: <913306.70038.qm@web50606.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <011a01c7c289$7eebf710$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Webster" To: ; Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [spridgets-aus] Engine Stands..who has the drawing? I had the blokes at my work knock me up a fitting for the generator mount. ==================================== Andy, here in the states, to "knock someone up" means to get them pregnant. May I assume you have a different meaning across the pond? Larry Daniels From kidjoevid at yahoo.com Mon Jul 9 18:37:39 2007 From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com (Joe Lansing) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 17:37:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] WAY bad karma In-Reply-To: <1079385431.20070708182254@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <662513.46833.qm@web33215.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Ha - I didn't even have regular insurance! My homeowners won't cover it either. It was just sitting there in the driveway peacefully waiting til I finished the spridget, getting it's engine started every couple weeks. Anyone have advice on where to get rid of it? I'm thinking eBay, but I'm geographically challenged there (west Colo). I don't have the heart or cash to dive into it now...I've got a mountain of spares. Any advice is appreciated! Joe Lansing > > just curious, but do you have collector car > insurance for it?.. > as in hagerty? .... > > my experiences with them have been nothing > short of STELLAR! > really they seem more interested in getting > the car(s) fixed > than in what its gonna cost. > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Bill ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469 From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Mon Jul 9 18:40:38 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 19:40:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [spridgets-aus] Engine Stands..who has the drawing? References: <913306.70038.qm@web50606.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <011a01c7c289$7eebf710$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <028001c7c28a$efa21240$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> A "pregnant" generator?? Boggles the MIND, Larry!!!! Anon From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Mon Jul 9 18:43:08 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 19:43:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] WAY bad karma References: <662513.46833.qm@web33215.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <028a01c7c28b$493066e0$6501a8c0@actualshop> Aaaaarrrrrggggg!!!! NO insurance?!?!? <> Do a complete List of "spare parts" and then try e-bay but also Denver (?) craiglist, Joe. Ed From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 9 18:44:10 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 19:44:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [spridgets-aus] Engine Stands..who has the drawing? References: <913306.70038.qm@web50606.mail.re2.yahoo.com><011a01c7c289$7eebf710$6401a8c0@Larry> <028001c7c28a$efa21240$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <012d01c7c28b$6f2ea8c0$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "WJHS1960" To: Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [spridgets-aus] Engine Stands..who has the drawing? <> A "pregnant" generator?? Boggles the MIND, Larry!!!! Anon _______________________________________________ Your mind, Ed? I can't imagine. From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Mon Jul 9 18:44:31 2007 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 20:44:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] WAY bad karma Message-ID: <3937737.1184028271965.JavaMail.root@wmvirt88> Anyone have advice on where to get rid of it? Donate it to the Fat Chance Garage... Mark B., owner of this list, is a Triumph guy. Anon From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Mon Jul 9 18:49:55 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 19:49:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [spridgets-aus] Engine Stands..who has the drawing? References: <913306.70038.qm@web50606.mail.re2.yahoo.com><011a01c7c289$7eebf710$6401a8c0@Larry><028001c7c28a$efa21240$6501a8c0@actualshop> <012d01c7c28b$6f2ea8c0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <02b401c7c28c$3c13f7a0$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> It IS one of your short-comings, Larry!!! LOL From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Mon Jul 9 18:55:09 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 19:55:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [spridgets-aus] Engine Stands..who has the drawing? In-Reply-To: <012d01c7c28b$6f2ea8c0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <200707100053.l6A0rbIK027671@ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com> Or would that be a pregnant dynamo? Gives different meaning to positive and negative wiring too... I'll stop there. But speaking of hoisting the engine, where are the best places to put the chains? I'm getting close to getting it back where it belongs. Chris 66MKIII Brookfield, WI. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 7:44 PM To: WJHS1960; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [spridgets-aus] Engine Stands..who has the drawing? ----- Original Message ----- From: "WJHS1960" To: Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [spridgets-aus] Engine Stands..who has the drawing? <> A "pregnant" generator?? Boggles the MIND, Larry!!!! Anon From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Mon Jul 9 19:04:31 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 20:04:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] WAY bad karma References: <3937737.1184028271965.JavaMail.root@wmvirt88> Message-ID: <031d01c7c28e$45e83960$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> And he is relatively "close"!! Utah, IIRC. From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jul 9 19:25:52 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 19:25:52 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] DCOE 45 Ram Pipes Message-ID: <5f00d9910707091825k9ad07b0kd65a1000e22a7aed@mail.gmail.com> Pair. Good condition. 45mm dia. A little less than 3" OAH. $1 plus shipping. From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jul 9 19:27:43 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 19:27:43 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Filter Action Message-ID: <5f00d9910707091827i60afa810ne2ca95c20a544dc2@mail.gmail.com> Does the oil flow from the pump to the outside of the filter and then exit through the middle? We're talking a regular spin on filter here. Cheers, Derf From shelden3 at pldi.net Mon Jul 9 19:33:47 2007 From: shelden3 at pldi.net (Charlie Shelden) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 20:33:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [spridgets-aus] Engine Stands..who has the drawing? References: <200707100053.l6A0rbIK027671@ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <006d01c7c292$5d045fd0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> Chris, I put a bolt in on the rear most exhaust stud, and one on the Generator mount and run a chain across those two points to attach the lift to. I'm sure others have other ways as well. Charlie -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1769 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len From hal at katemuir.com Mon Jul 9 20:09:40 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 19:09:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Filter Action In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707091827i60afa810ne2ca95c20a544dc2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Filter Action Does the oil flow from the pump to the outside of the filter and then exit through the middle? We're talking a regular spin on filter here. Cheers, Derf Derf, Yes. Hal From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jul 9 20:41:33 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 20:41:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] DCOE 45 Ram Pipes In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707091825k9ad07b0kd65a1000e22a7aed@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910707091825k9ad07b0kd65a1000e22a7aed@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707091941s660bc766y1091d1bbb3aaf00a@mail.gmail.com> We have a winner. Ram pipes are spoken for. From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Mon Jul 9 20:42:13 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 19:42:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] WAY bad karma References: <662513.46833.qm@web33215.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00a601c7c29b$ecda5700$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Try Mark Bradikis. He lives in Salt Lake City. Relatively close to you. Western Colorado? Grand Junction and environs? Anyway, Mark is at eight zero one 558-8817. He's the majordomo of the autox.team.net lists we so much enjoy. Later, Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Lansing" To: "Bill L" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] WAY bad karma > Ha - I didn't even have regular insurance! My > homeowners won't cover it either. It was just sitting > there in the driveway peacefully waiting til I > finished the spridget, getting it's engine started > every couple weeks. > > Anyone have advice on where to get rid of it? I'm > thinking eBay, but I'm geographically challenged there > (west Colo). I don't have the heart or cash to dive > into it now...I've got a mountain of spares. Any > advice is appreciated! > > Joe Lansing > > > > > just curious, but do you have collector car > > insurance for it?.. > > as in hagerty? .... > > > > my experiences with them have been nothing > > short of STELLAR! > > really they seem more interested in getting > > the car(s) fixed > > than in what its gonna cost. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Bill From dmeadow at juno.com Mon Jul 9 20:56:38 2007 From: dmeadow at juno.com (dmeadow at juno.com) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 21:56:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rear axle housing needed in Texas Message-ID: <20070709.215639.1272.1.dmeadow@juno.com> Got a racing buddy that destroyed his rear axle setup. He needs at least a housing, but probably could use a few more parts, if available. Any one in Texas have a spare? Or further away that is willing to ship? David Littlefield From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Mon Jul 9 21:03:08 2007 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 20:03:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] WAY bad karma Message-ID: <64c401c7c29e$d7da0780$2dca010a@mail2world.com> Most of them do, which is why I can't get classic insurance... no garage. :( -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: derf [derf247 at gmail.com] Sent: 7/8/2007 9:27:34 PM To: pythias at pacifier.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] WAY bad karma Hagerty requires a fully enclosed garage, although I guess you could tell them you parked it there for a short while. _______________________________________________ From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jul 9 21:05:09 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 21:05:09 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] WAY bad karma In-Reply-To: <64c401c7c29e$d7da0780$2dca010a@mail2world.com> References: <64c401c7c29e$d7da0780$2dca010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707092005rb6d1e9co50f7ccac43a31d1e@mail.gmail.com> With some you can store the vehicle off premises, say at a storage facility. On 7/9/07, Chris King wrote: > > Most of them do, which is why I can't get classic insurance... no garage. > :( > > -=Chris From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Mon Jul 9 21:35:53 2007 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 13:35:53 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] [spridgets-aus] Engine Stands..who has the drawing? In-Reply-To: <006d01c7c292$5d045fd0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> Message-ID: <950934.55820.qm@web50609.mail.re2.yahoo.com> when i bought my morris minor it came with hoisting tags. each tag is 1" x 2" x 1/8" thick plate, with 2 holes.. bent into an "L" shape (the plate is bent, not the holes). they live on the bolts that hold the rocker cover on, and accept a D-shackle... and allow the engine to hang quite straight Charlie Shelden wrote: Chris, I put a bolt in on the rear most exhaust stud, and one on the Generator mount and run a chain across those two points to attach the lift to. I'm sure others have other ways as well. Charlie -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1769 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len _______________________________________________ a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Yahoo!7 Mail has just got even bigger and better with unlimited storage on all webmail accounts. Find out more. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 10 05:23:35 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 06:23:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC Message-ID: <017c01c7c2e4$c35973e0$6401a8c0@Larry> MessageA Japanese company ( Toyota ) and an American company (General Motors) decided to have a canoe race on the Missouri River . Both teams practiced long and hard to reach their peak performance before the race. On the big day, the Japanese won by a mile. The Americans, very discouraged and depressed, decided to investigate the reason for the crushing defeat. A management team made up of senior management was formed to investigate and recommend appropriate action. Their conclusion was the Japanese had 8 people rowing and 1 person steering, while the American team had 8 people steering and 1 person rowing. Feeling that a deeper study was in order, American management hired a consulting company and paid them a large amount of money for a second opinion. They advised, of course, that too many people were steering the boat, while not enough people were rowing. Not sure of how to utilize that information, but wanting to prevent another loss to the Japanese, the rowing team's management structure was totally reorganized to 4 steering supervisors, 3 area steering superintendents and 1 assistant superintendent steering manager. They also implemented a new performance system that would give the one person rowing the boat greater incentive to work harder. It was called the 'RTQFP' (Rowing Team Quality First Program), with meetings, dinners and free pens for the rower. There was discussion of getting new paddles, canoes and other equipment, extra vacation days for practices and bonuses. The next year the Japanese won by two miles. Humiliated, the American management laid off the rower for poor performance, halted development of a new canoe, sold the paddles, and canceled all capital investments for new equipment. The money saved was distributed to the Senior Executives as bonuses and the next year's racing team was out-sourced to India. Sadly, The End. Here's something else to think about: Ford has spent the last thirty years moving all its factories out of the US , claiming they can't make money paying American wages. TOYOTA has spent the last thirty years building more than a dozen plants inside the US. The last quarter's results: TOYOTA makes 4 billion in profits while Ford racked up 9 billion in losses. Ford folks are still scratching their heads. IF THIS WASN'T SO SAD IT MIGHT BE FUNNY From pythias at pacifier.com Tue Jul 10 06:50:43 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 05:50:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC In-Reply-To: <017c01c7c2e4$c35973e0$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <017c01c7c2e4$c35973e0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <1541910166.20070710055043@pacifier.com> Hello Larry, what has become part of the narrative of the WHY american car companies can't compete is their "legacy" costs. the costs associated with wages and health benefits paid to retired UAW members. pegged now at somewhere around $1700.00 per auto. how can they compete with that kind of a cost structure while the foreign makers have a younger work force without that kind of overhead?... and the media has bought into this narrative without questioning-------------that those wages and benefits were negotiated in the "good times" and the automakers, instead of putting aside the profits AT THE TIME for the future costs, in the form of trusts or annuities, SPENT the money in the form of compensation for ITS EXECUTIVES, bonuses, stock options, etc. now that the times are "bad", and they don't HAVE the money they should have put aside, they CRY.. .. we can't compete on cost...... ..... .. .. WAHHHHHH!..... take a look at what the management people make. Bill Ford, before he took himself out of the CEO spot had cut his package down to merely $1,000,000.00 a year until he could make the company profitable. he stayed that way for about 3 years, then abdicated. but that was a cut from the 5 to 10 million a year he took BEFORE that time... .. .. ... . again.. WAAAHHHHH!!!! -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite From type79 at ix.netcom.com Tue Jul 10 07:52:45 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 09:52:45 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC Message-ID: <26053746.1184075565617.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Debate and analyze this all you want. At the end of the day, people don't buy US cars because they don't compete with the competition. jay fishbein wallingford, ct -----Original Message----- >From: Bill L >Sent: Jul 10, 2007 8:50 AM >To: Larry Daniels >Cc: Spridgets >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC > >Hello Larry, > > what has become part of the narrative of the WHY american car > companies can't compete is their "legacy" costs. the costs > associated with wages and health benefits paid to retired UAW > members. pegged now at somewhere around $1700.00 per auto. how > can they compete with that kind of a cost structure while the > foreign makers have a younger work force without that kind of > overhead?... and the media has bought into this narrative > without questioning-------------that those wages and benefits > were negotiated in the "good times" and the automakers, instead > of putting aside the profits AT THE TIME for the future costs, > in the form of trusts or annuities, SPENT the money in the form > of compensation for ITS EXECUTIVES, bonuses, stock options, > etc. now that the times are "bad", and they don't HAVE the > money they should have put aside, they CRY.. .. we can't > compete on cost...... ..... .. .. WAHHHHHH!..... take a look at > what the management people make. Bill Ford, before he took > himself out of the CEO spot had cut his package down to merely > $1,000,000.00 a year until he could make the company > profitable. he stayed that way for about 3 years, then > abdicated. but that was a cut from the 5 to 10 million a year > he took BEFORE that time... .. .. ... . again.. WAAAHHHHH!!!! > > > > >-- >Best regards, > Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > "66 Sprite >____________________ From peter at nosimport.com Tue Jul 10 08:01:10 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 09:01:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Heavy metal missing In-Reply-To: <1541910166.20070710055043@pacifier.com> References: <017c01c7c2e4$c35973e0$6401a8c0@Larry> <1541910166.20070710055043@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070710085839.00f80698@nosimport.com> I find this mildly amusing. Stealing is not funny, but stealing part of an automotive production line? Can't they afford a guard or 2? Bank holiday? wtf. Peter C http://www.octane-magazine.com/news.php?seenews=231 From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jul 10 08:16:18 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:16:18 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Thicko Deer Hunting? Message-ID: <5f00d9910707100716h32cabfd8yb4de28b7656a7b13@mail.gmail.com> http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/558/FormulaDeerHunting.wmv daaaaaaaaang. From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jul 10 08:19:32 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:19:32 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] More deer hunting, more amazing than the previous. Still not good for deer. A little graphic. Hit delete. Message-ID: <5f00d9910707100719y1f102734ycb59212f1fbde1ae@mail.gmail.com> http://www.zippyvideos.com/5216331797152396/deerhuntingwithabird/ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jul 10 08:26:05 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 10:26:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Heavy metal missing Message-ID: <20070710142605.FMRJ1657.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> The going thing around here is stealing copper for recycling. Thieves are hitting construction sites and electric power substations where they disconnect the ground strap, connect it to their trucks and pull it out of the ground. Sample story: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/story/2006/06/06/nb-copperthieves20060605.html or for those who don't know how to piece together a URL: http://tinyurl.com/259pnq Be thankful that our cars aren't made of copper!!! > From: Peter C > > I find this mildly amusing. Stealing is not funny, but stealing part > of an automotive production line? > > Can't they afford a guard or 2? Bank holiday? wtf. Peter C > > http://www.octane-magazine.com/news.php?seenews=231 From grday at btinternet.com Tue Jul 10 08:37:48 2007 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:37:48 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC References: <26053746.1184075565617.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <000801c7c2ff$e3a6b1b0$54cb9751@tairswork> My daughter and boyfriend have just come back after a 'Disney' Holiday in Florida and one of the first things said was, "Aren't American cars horrible!" Approaching an intersection, lights began to change and he stuck his foot on the loud pedal. All that happened was he cruised across the junction at his previous speed, only starting to accelerate when he reached the other side. He said it was a 3 litre V6. (He knows the make, I didn't really bother listening - it was 5am when I had to get up to collect them from the airport!) The point is are there any European or far eastern cars with that engine capacity that would do the same without being defective? I too echo this gripe against your vehicles, the common or garden road variety is a slug. Your quicker cars are truly good. But put the average domestic US family car against an average rest of world car and you have the result below - they don't compete with the competition. (Not only that but the last two US hire cars I've used both had punctures. Grrr That clouds your mind a little!! GRD ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC > Debate and analyze this all you want. At the end of the day, people don't > buy US cars because they don't compete with the competition. > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Bill L >>Sent: Jul 10, 2007 8:50 AM >>To: Larry Daniels >>Cc: Spridgets >>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC >> >>Hello Larry, >> >> what has become part of the narrative of the WHY american car >> companies can't compete is their "legacy" costs. the costs >> associated with wages and health benefits paid to retired UAW >> members. pegged now at somewhere around $1700.00 per auto. how >> can they compete with that kind of a cost structure while the >> foreign makers have a younger work force without that kind of >> overhead?... and the media has bought into this narrative >> without questioning-------------that those wages and benefits >> were negotiated in the "good times" and the automakers, instead >> of putting aside the profits AT THE TIME for the future costs, >> in the form of trusts or annuities, SPENT the money in the form >> of compensation for ITS EXECUTIVES, bonuses, stock options, >> etc. now that the times are "bad", and they don't HAVE the >> money they should have put aside, they CRY.. .. we can't >> compete on cost...... ..... .. .. WAHHHHHH!..... take a look at >> what the management people make. Bill Ford, before he took >> himself out of the CEO spot had cut his package down to merely >> $1,000,000.00 a year until he could make the company >> profitable. he stayed that way for about 3 years, then >> abdicated. but that was a cut from the 5 to 10 million a year >> he took BEFORE that time... .. .. ... . again.. WAAAHHHHH!!!! >> >> >> >> >>-- >>Best regards, >> Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com >> "66 Sprite >>____________________ > _______________________________________________ > grday at btinternet.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jul 10 09:34:44 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:34:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thicko Deer Hunting? Message-ID: <20070710153444.BAAD5730.tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> It looks like he saw god. ( look carefully at the image at the end, behind the railing. ) > From: derf > http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/558/FormulaDeerHunting.wmv From wbmcleod at cox.net Tue Jul 10 09:54:51 2007 From: wbmcleod at cox.net (William McLeod) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:54:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Thicko Deer Hunting? In-Reply-To: <20070710153444.BAAD5730.tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20070710153444.BAAD5730.tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: It looks like God was hitchhiking.... On Jul 10, 2007, at 8:34 AM, Robert Duquette wrote: > It looks like he saw god. ( look carefully at the image at the > end, behind the railing. ) > >> From: derf >> http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/558/ >> FormulaDeerHunting.wmv From samncyna at comcast.net Tue Jul 10 11:23:09 2007 From: samncyna at comcast.net (Sam Marble) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 13:23:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Front hubs Message-ID: <002301c7c316$fc6039d0$6500a8c0@Homeoffice> ----- Original Message ----- From: Sam Marble To: owner-spridgets-digest at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 1:09 PM Subject: Front hubs Listers: I'm putting together the parts to set up our Bugeye with disk brakes and disk wheels. In cleaning up the used hubs I picked up recently, I noticed that the Manufacturer's part numbers stamped on them were different. They look identical but I don't see the second part numberin any of my parts books. Can someone clear this up ? Hub 1 P/N BTA385 (also stamped MOWOG) listed for MK 3 Sprite Hub 2 P/N BTA 1255 (no MOWOG) can't find this one. Just want to sure I'm using the right stuff. Sam From wolf.brent at gmail.com Tue Jul 10 12:26:35 2007 From: wolf.brent at gmail.com (Brent Wolf) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:26:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Heavy metal missing In-Reply-To: <20070710142605.FMRJ1657.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20070710142605.FMRJ1657.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <62b83300707101126x5a7c9763jfda8e5d4ac992f96@mail.gmail.com> When I lived near Philly and Aluminum prices were high, the thing was to drive along the highways and cut down the street lights with the trusty chain saw. Cut them into 8 foot sections, into the pickup or trailer and be gone. Here in Lima, we lost phone service at least once a week. Thieves wait for new cable to be installed, then appear at night driving by. Throw something up and over the cable, tie it to the vehicle and go. We finally went to a microwave system. On 7/10/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > > The going thing around here is stealing copper for recycling. Thieves are > hitting construction sites and electric power substations where they > disconnect the ground strap, connect it to their trucks and pull it out of > the ground. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jul 10 15:34:30 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:34:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC In-Reply-To: <000801c7c2ff$e3a6b1b0$54cb9751@tairswork> References: <26053746.1184075565617.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <000801c7c2ff$e3a6b1b0$54cb9751@tairswork> Message-ID: <43840a7e0707101434n3fe7b365t47a97dfa3ec10fe8@mail.gmail.com> Guy, Without knowing the car they had, it's hard to answer your post. Please know that there are many American made cars which are the equal or better of anything from Europe or the Far East. However, they usually don't end up in rental fleets. Additionally, driving in the larger portions of America (away from the right and left coasts) does not require your vehicle to rapidly respond to the throttle. It requires a vehicle which is comfortable to travel long distances in and one which is comfortable on relatively rough roads (gravel and dirt). Here in the High Plains region, towns of around 1,200 to 2,500 population average 50 miles of open road between them with no intersections, lights or other forms of traffic obstruction. It is also farm and ranch country here covering an area which is likely larger than the UK and Western Europe put together. We need big vehicles which can haul cattle, feed, grain, hay and many other large and heavy loads. The big displacement V8 reigns supreme out here and over a large part of North America. I want to be able to comfortably haul a two horse trailer and 8 bails of hay in the bed of my Chevy pick-up for a distance of 500 miles a day at 70 to 80 mph. I don't care if it won't snap my neck when I plant my foot. Point is - it is all in the use the vehicle is designed for. In Europe, the UK and the Far East, you have much different needs from your vehicles than what you encounter in most of America. Again - I am not counting the heavily urbanized areas where the vehicle requirements are similar to those in your part of the world. You might get a different picture of things if European and Far Eastern auto makers had to design, build and sell vehicles for rural and farm use similar to what I have described above. I have lived in Europe and America and driven extensively in both. I found that you can't judge one's autos based on the other's. Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City On 7/10/07, Guy R Day wrote: > My daughter and boyfriend have just come back after a 'Disney' Holiday in > Florida and one of the first things said was, "Aren't American cars > horrible!" Approaching an intersection, lights began to change and he stuck > his foot on the loud pedal. All that happened was he cruised across the > junction at his previous speed, only starting to accelerate when he reached > the other side. He said it was a 3 litre V6. (He knows the make, I didn't > really bother listening - it was 5am when I had to get up to collect them > from the airport!) The point is are there any European or far eastern cars > with that engine capacity that would do the same without being defective? > I too echo this gripe against your vehicles, the common or garden road > variety is a slug. Your quicker cars are truly good. But put the average > domestic US family car against an average rest of world car and you have the > result below - they don't compete with the competition. > (Not only that but the last two US hire cars I've used both had punctures. > Grrr That clouds your mind a little!! > > GRD From refisk at chartermi.net Tue Jul 10 15:43:05 2007 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:43:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC References: <26053746.1184075565617.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net><000801c7c2ff$e3a6b1b0$54cb9751@tairswork> <43840a7e0707101434n3fe7b365t47a97dfa3ec10fe8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002d01c7c33b$4cc08280$6401a8c0@refisk> And another thing........when the "lights began to change" they were supposed to slow down and stop, not "stuck his foot on the loud pedal". The extra minute or so sitting at a red light is not worth someone's life. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" To: "Guy R Day" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC > Guy, > > Without knowing the car they had, it's hard to answer your post. > Please know that there are many American made cars which are the equal > or better of anything from Europe or the Far East........ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jul 10 15:47:37 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:47:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC References: <26053746.1184075565617.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net><000801c7c2ff$e3a6b1b0$54cb9751@tairswork><43840a7e0707101434n3fe7b365t47a97dfa3ec10fe8@mail.gmail.com> <002d01c7c33b$4cc08280$6401a8c0@refisk> Message-ID: <00ba01c7c33b$eec01140$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > And another thing........when the "lights began to change" they were > supposed to slow down and stop, not "stuck his foot on the loud pedal". > The > extra minute or so sitting at a red light is not worth someone's life. Especially true when driving an unfamiliar vehicle in unfamiliar territory for all the reasons that Guy gave. That gives the rest of us an out so we don't feel guilty for not practising what we are preaching ;-) David Lieb From grday at btinternet.com Tue Jul 10 16:05:45 2007 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:05:45 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC References: <26053746.1184075565617.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net><000801c7c2ff$e3a6b1b0$54cb9751@tairswork> <43840a7e0707101434n3fe7b365t47a97dfa3ec10fe8@mail.gmail.com> <002d01c7c33b$4cc08280$6401a8c0@refisk> Message-ID: <003601c7c33e$770603a0$42bc8f56@tairswork> Hey, Rick, no need to come across as the angelic model of Mr Perfect car driver just yet, all I was doing is pointing out, I'm not blaming. There's no need to leap into defence mode. I fully agree with Jim, there are many that are better. Don't forget the original post identified a problem between different management styles and some vehicles certainly reflect it. GRD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Fisk" To: "Guy R Day" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 10:43 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC > And another thing........when the "lights began to change" they were > supposed to slow down and stop, not "stuck his foot on the loud pedal". > The extra minute or so sitting at a red light is not worth someone's life. > > Rick > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Johnson" > To: "Guy R Day" > Cc: "Spridgets" > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 5:34 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC > > >> Guy, >> >> Without knowing the car they had, it's hard to answer your post. >> Please know that there are many American made cars which are the equal >> or better of anything from Europe or the Far East........ From refisk at chartermi.net Tue Jul 10 16:25:06 2007 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:25:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC References: <26053746.1184075565617.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net><000801c7c2ff$e3a6b1b0$54cb9751@tairswork> <43840a7e0707101434n3fe7b365t47a97dfa3ec10fe8@mail.gmail.com> <002d01c7c33b$4cc08280$6401a8c0@refisk> <003601c7c33e$770603a0$42bc8f56@tairswork> Message-ID: <006201c7c341$2b314bd0$6401a8c0@refisk> Guy, I'm no angel. :-) I'm not blaming either, just pointing out what we're supposed to do. Many small US sedans are gutless wonders. The big problem is that about 99% of them are built with automatic transmissions, and a downshift takes forever. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy R Day" To: "Rick Fisk" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC > Hey, Rick, no need to come across as the angelic model of Mr Perfect car > driver just yet, all I was doing is pointing out, I'm not blaming. From type79 at ix.netcom.com Tue Jul 10 16:28:20 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:28:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC Message-ID: <2803888.1184106500571.JavaMail.root@elwamui-wigeon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Without knowing who's life your talking about, it's hard to react to such a general statement. jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ -----Original Message----- >From: Rick Fisk >Sent: Jul 10, 2007 5:43 PM >To: Guy R Day >Cc: Spridgets >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC > The extra minute or so sitting at a red light is not worth someone's life. From refisk at chartermi.net Tue Jul 10 16:39:31 2007 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:39:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC References: <2803888.1184106500571.JavaMail.root@elwamui-wigeon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <008001c7c343$2ec1b3a0$6401a8c0@refisk> Ummm..........Ed :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC > Without knowing who's life your talking about, it's hard to react to such > a general statement. > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Rick Fisk >>Sent: Jul 10, 2007 5:43 PM >>To: Guy R Day >>Cc: Spridgets >>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC > >> The extra minute or so sitting at a red light is not worth someone's >> life. From froggi60 at gmail.com Tue Jul 10 17:10:49 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:10:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC Concept car anyone? Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10707101610x36bf8ccbhea93e1d13b501154@mail.gmail.com> This is pretty interesting. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-Disappearing-Door-Concept-Car-1993-Lincoln-Mark-VIII-Prototype-Concept-Car-Rolling-Dr_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6472QQihZ006QQitemZ160135007203QQrdZ1 From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jul 10 17:17:27 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:17:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0707101434n3fe7b365t47a97dfa3ec10fe8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070710231727.18696.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Jim Johnson wrote: > European and Far > Eastern auto makers had to design, build and sell > vehicles for rural > and farm use The new Toyota Tundra is designed for that. It was recalled because the camshafts are snapping in half. Ron Soave "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain From mconn2 at bright.net Tue Jul 10 18:10:59 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:10:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC Message-ID: <007e01c7c34f$f7098f20$da368fd1@YOURD28EB17757> Jim, Well said. Before I came to live here in the U.S as an American citizen I was frequently asked by Brits coming here on vacation for "tips" My main advice was to meet as many Americans as they could, and spend as much time as possible with them. The Brits come here, for the most part, with no idea what to expect. The consequence is that they get stuck on an Interstate, stay in motels and, maybe, make it to Disney World: all in 10 days My experience was that most didn't really enjoy the experience, and, usually, didn't come back. Michael From mconn2 at bright.net Tue Jul 10 18:13:14 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:13:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC Message-ID: <008301c7c350$47b08820$da368fd1@YOURD28EB17757> Guy, Are you saying those two young people travelled here from England for a holiday in Disney Land? Please, tell me they met real Americans as well. My experience (extensive) of English cars in anything but the expensive type is that I'd prefer not to drive one. I'm sorry, but that's how I see it. Michael From dmg at bossig.com Tue Jul 10 18:47:48 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:47:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC In-Reply-To: <008301c7c350$47b08820$da368fd1@YOURD28EB17757> References: <008301c7c350$47b08820$da368fd1@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <4693C644.7326.262BEC4@dmg.bossig.com> Michael, As an ex-Brit, I regret to say I disagree... Inexpensive Brit Cars I have owned, driven and enjoyed include; Original Mini-Cooper 'S' Ford Escort Rally Marcos GT Lotus Super 7 A "warmed up" Cortina MG YB Saloon (very good in Rally's) Of course, my Sprite And a few more Dave G. On 10 Jul 2007 at 20:13, Michael Conn wrote: >> My experience (extensive) of English cars in anything but the expensive >> type >> is that I'd prefer not to drive one. - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From BCAH at aol.com Tue Jul 10 18:52:21 2007 From: BCAH at aol.com (BCAH at aol.com) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:52:21 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] alternators and tires Message-ID: several years ago one of the AH club news letters had an article about converting an alternator to POS ground. Don't know why you would want to do this but apparently it can be done.Also I just checked "Just Brits and the site won't do the tire date ID. I assume it is "week of the year followed by year"? If so, I'm in trouble! Later-----------------Bob C in KS ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. From mconn2 at bright.net Tue Jul 10 19:18:22 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:18:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC References: <008301c7c350$47b08820$da368fd1@YOURD28EB17757> <4693C644.7326.262BEC4@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <000901c7c359$605c8410$da368fd1@YOURD28EB17757> Dave, When in England I had five of the cars you mention: original Cooper 'S', Escort Rally, "7", Cortina and AN5. With the exception of the AN5 none of those cars came within the category of "inexpensive": certainly not when new and certainly not by the ordinary driving folk! I think the spirit of the conversation really relates to driving long distances in relative comfort with or without wife/children/pets. Imagine driving from JFK to, say, Disney Land in any one of the vehicles you mention! Oh, dear, oh, dear.................. I currently own (and enjoy) an AN5. (My wife prefers to have as little as possible to do with it. One of my grand-children calls it a motor-bike on four wheels.) Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G." To: "spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC > Michael, > > As an ex-Brit, I regret to say I disagree... > Inexpensive Brit Cars I have owned, driven and enjoyed include; > Original Mini-Cooper 'S' > Ford Escort Rally > Marcos GT > Lotus Super 7 > A "warmed up" Cortina > MG YB Saloon (very good in Rally's) > Of course, my Sprite > And a few more > > Dave G. > > On 10 Jul 2007 at 20:13, Michael Conn wrote: > >>> My experience (extensive) of English cars in anything but the expensive >>> type >>> is that I'd prefer not to drive one. > > - > Dave G > '65 MKIII Sprite > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jul 10 19:20:58 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:20:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC In-Reply-To: <006201c7c341$2b314bd0$6401a8c0@refisk> References: <26053746.1184075565617.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net><000801c7c2ff$e3a6b1b0$54cb9751@tairswork> <43840a7e0707101434n3fe7b365t47a97dfa3ec10fe8@mail.gmail.com> <002d01c7c33b$4cc08280$6401a8c0@refisk> <003601c7c33e$770603a0$42bc8f56@tairswork> <006201c7c341$2b314bd0$6401a8c0@refisk> Message-ID: <4694307A.805@comcast.net> Rick Fisk wrote: > Many small US sedans are gutless wonders. I own a big US sedan and it is a gutless wonder. I bought a Jaguar S with a 3.0 engine and it boggles my mind how fast it is for a decent size car. I will say that a stick over an automatic makes a huge difference. My daughter went from a stick to an automatic, same car, same engine, and she hates it. My Ford gutless wonder had a CVT automatic, 0-60 in about 10 minutes. The Jag has a stick, 0-100 real quick :) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From nory1 at adelphia.net Tue Jul 10 19:29:00 2007 From: nory1 at adelphia.net (Nory) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:29:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC In-Reply-To: <1541910166.20070710055043@pacifier.com> References: <017c01c7c2e4$c35973e0$6401a8c0@Larry> <1541910166.20070710055043@pacifier.com> Message-ID: But Toyotas cost more than Fords...... People are buying the Toyotas and Hondas not because of the cost, but because of the reliability factor. Consumer Reports recently pointed out that 10 year old Toyotas were more reliable than 5 year old cars from the major American auto manufacturers (in addition to a few other foreign ones as well). On Jul 10, 2007, at 8:50 AM, Bill L wrote: > they CRY.. .. we can't > compete on cost..... From mconn2 at bright.net Tue Jul 10 19:28:10 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:28:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC References: <008301c7c350$47b08820$da368fd1@YOURD28EB17757><4693C644.7326.262BEC4@dmg.bossig.com> <000901c7c359$605c8410$da368fd1@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <001c01c7c35a$becc9520$da368fd1@YOURD28EB17757> Dave, I used the expression "ordinary driving folk" in my last e-mail. So, now I'll worry in case I've upset anyone. I derived the expression from the definition "ordinary man". The latter expression has been judically noted to be a man riding on the Clapham omnibus. Don't any body get me talking about the British class system, please. (I'm still not over the last couple of times I upset certain folks.) Michael From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jul 10 19:29:31 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:29:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Selling my pickup, no LBC Message-ID: <4694327B.1000100@comcast.net> Anybody looking for a work truck? 2001 Ford F-150 XL 85,000 miles aluminum (strong)ladder racks and aluminum diamond plate tool box go with the truck. I just bought a new one and the dealer says $2400 trade. I would like to see $4500. Truck needs nothing. V6, 5 speed, AC -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From jmbawe at localnet.com Tue Jul 10 19:32:56 2007 From: jmbawe at localnet.com (Jerry Wells) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:32:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a gasket Message-ID: <00a501c7c35b$6f2c4140$550db340@wellsfamily> Hello all. I am looking for a couple-few gaskets that go between a Weber 3236 DCOE carb and the manifold. If anyone has any please let me know asap as I am ready to rid myself of the Zenith nightmare I have. I will of course buy them. Please let me know. Thanks. Ben Uncle Kevin if I am wrong on which carb it is please correct me. From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jul 10 19:34:33 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:34:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC In-Reply-To: <4694307A.805@comcast.net> Message-ID: <92247.83282.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Frank Clarici wrote: > I bought a Jaguar S with a 3.0 engine and it boggles > my mind how fast it > is for a decent size car. It's a Ford, isn't it? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ From mconn2 at bright.net Tue Jul 10 19:43:53 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:43:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC References: <017c01c7c2e4$c35973e0$6401a8c0@Larry><1541910166.20070710055043@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <001001c7c35c$f0bd8bf0$da368fd1@YOURD28EB17757> Nory, That's interesting. I'll still continue to buy American though except, of course, for my AN5. Sometimes you buy a car just because ..................! Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nory" To: "Bill L" ; "Spridgets List" Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC > But Toyotas cost more than Fords...... > > People are buying the Toyotas and Hondas not because of the cost, but > because of the reliability factor. Consumer Reports recently pointed > out that 10 year old Toyotas were more reliable than 5 year old cars > from the major American auto manufacturers (in addition to a few > other foreign ones as well). > > > On Jul 10, 2007, at 8:50 AM, Bill L wrote: > >> they CRY.. .. we can't >> compete on cost..... > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jul 10 19:50:41 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:50:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a gasket In-Reply-To: <00a501c7c35b$6f2c4140$550db340@wellsfamily> References: <00a501c7c35b$6f2c4140$550db340@wellsfamily> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707101850p5530b17ck9b3bc48c4f6a0cd8@mail.gmail.com> 32/36 is usually a DGAV. DCOE are side draft carbs. For which are you seeking gaskets? Call Peter C at WW, (800) 362-1025, he can get you new ones at a good price. Paul A and Ed a justbrits are good, too. If it is a downdraft and you need it right away I suggest taking the carb to your local auto parts store. That carb was probably popular on several makes and your local AZ or O'reilly or whatever probably has a gasket to fit. If not, you can easily make one from a sheet of gasket material. Cheers, Derf From froggi60 at gmail.com Tue Jul 10 20:00:46 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:00:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Surround Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10707101900j4b21221bkb8552b07e46f7cf5@mail.gmail.com> I'm in need of a (steering column) 'surround' for my BE. Anyone have one they'd sell? Thanks, WFO Herb Keep the sticky side down! From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Tue Jul 10 21:09:24 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:09:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a gasket References: <00a501c7c35b$6f2c4140$550db340@wellsfamily> Message-ID: <028001c7c368$e35f30b0$6501a8c0@actualshop> Ben: Sell the Weber and send Z/S to Joe Curto and ask that he put the NJ Manual Choke kit on it. Days of worry = ZERO!! Cheaper. Ed From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Tue Jul 10 21:23:06 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:23:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Selling my pickup, no LBC References: <4694327B.1000100@comcast.net> Message-ID: <02c701c7c36a$cc559920$6501a8c0@actualshop> <<...says $2400 trade.>> 2 grand and you pay for plane ticket, Frank!! From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Tue Jul 10 21:31:31 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:31:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] alternators and tires References: Message-ID: <032d01c7c36b$f97ca140$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> Fixed, Bob. Thanks. From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jul 10 21:40:18 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:40:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] WAY bad karma In-Reply-To: <662513.46833.qm@web33215.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1079385431.20070708182254@pacifier.com> <662513.46833.qm@web33215.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <205cef430707102040j2950081xdc695f94a4669d3f@mail.gmail.com> Joe, How is she structurally? My 68 Spitfire front end was wrapped around a tree and no floors or rockers from rust when I got her in the 70's so I picked up a bonnet some sheet metal and started welding. Too bad you are so far away I just bought a MIG today. Try looking for a bonnet on craigslist or ebay when you feel better and have some cash. Linda 62 Calfornia Sprite "Pinky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner On 7/9/07, Joe Lansing wrote: > > Ha - I didn't even have regular insurance! My > homeowners won't cover it either. It was just sitting > there in the driveway peacefully waiting til I > finished the spridget, getting it's engine started > every couple weeks. > > Anyone have advice on where to get rid of it? I'm > thinking eBay, but I'm geographically challenged there > (west Colo). I don't have the heart or cash to dive > into it now...I've got a mountain of spares. Any > advice is appreciated! > > Joe Lansing > > > > > just curious, but do you have collector car > > insurance for it?.. > > as in hagerty? .... > > > > my experiences with them have been nothing > > short of STELLAR! > > really they seem more interested in getting > > the car(s) fixed > > than in what its gonna cost. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Bill > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who > knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469 > _______________________________________________ > grunthaner at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jul 10 21:48:32 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:48:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC ....lawn mower question In-Reply-To: <009b01c7bbb4$e0593ac0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <205cef430706300913v1cae2261t5edd9163fab1d21b@mail.gmail.com> <000701c7bb8d$b4b82ba0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <205cef430707010839y138c5ed3hfc1e39d7666a3253@mail.gmail.com> <009b01c7bbb4$e0593ac0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <205cef430707102048p1e762d44nebc2749164a8345b@mail.gmail.com> Paul Lon & List, I pulled the carb found the diaphragm pinched and a bit dry, called the local mower service center and got a diaphragm for $3.00. I had it together in 10 min. and now she purrs like a kitten. I can't tell you how many people I could have helped over the years with that advice alone. Thanks list for the great advice, you guys are the very best! Linda On 7/1/07, Paul Asgeirsson wrote: > > Hi Linda, > > Putting on the carb yourself ain't worth the hassle and small savings. > Let the engine guy do it, and it becomes guaranteed work then. > > FWIW, Paul A > > ----- Original > > Message ----- > *From:* Linda Grunthaner > > *To:* Paul Asgeirsson > *Cc:* Spridget > *Sent:* Sunday, July 01, 2007 8:39 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Spridgets] Not LBC ....lawn mower question > > Paul, > That sounds like the easiest least expensive long term fix for me although > before I get to that step I'm going to go and cut the lawn (if she makes it) > and then I'll remove the carburetor and try out all the other wonderful > suggestions first. If they do not fix the problem I'll just get a new > carburetor and put it on myself. > Thanks everyone for all the helpful advice. > Linda > > > On 6/30/07, Paul Asgeirsson wrote: > > > > Hi Linda, > > > > Recently I had a similar problem with my B&S lawn mowere, but it was > > mostly > > running rich. Took it to the lawn mower man and he said it's a simple > > fix. > > New carb!! He said the original cheap carbs are being eaten up with > > assorted items now being used in todays gasoline. Said he: $59.95 and > > it > > will be better than new. He was so right! I bit the bullet and now it > > uses > > so much less gas, I can pay for it with savings of $3.00 a gallon gas!! > > > > FWIW, Paul A From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jul 10 22:03:36 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:03:36 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC ....lawn mower question In-Reply-To: <205cef430707102048p1e762d44nebc2749164a8345b@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430706300913v1cae2261t5edd9163fab1d21b@mail.gmail.com> <000701c7bb8d$b4b82ba0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <205cef430707010839y138c5ed3hfc1e39d7666a3253@mail.gmail.com> <009b01c7bbb4$e0593ac0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <205cef430707102048p1e762d44nebc2749164a8345b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707102103k771891c7s16515c32f7b9e418@mail.gmail.com> Yeah, I live in a middle class neighborhood. I could probably support myself if I stopped and picked up every mower that I see people discarding with the trash. I almost picked up an edger the other day but we were in the Beetle and it was gone an hour later when we returned. Most times the mowers just need the debris cleaned from the fuel bowls. They can many times be fixed for $0. My sister has three mowers. She uses one until it quits, parks it, and uses another. When all three are dead she calls me and I go over and spend an hour making all three work again. She once had one that wouldn't run because the air filter was so clogged with dust. I put a zillion miles on go-karts and mowers in very dusty conditions but I never saw anything like her dusted up mower. Cheers, Derf From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jul 10 22:13:25 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:13:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] She may not win a beauty pagent but my LBC was loud and fun today : ) Message-ID: <205cef430707102113s1f67398h55bc7690f72864c8@mail.gmail.com> List, I took my LBC out today and she was so loud and fun I could hardly control myself. I'm sure the people who heard her coming around the corner were expecting to see a big muscle car and were shocked to see this little rusty faded pink car. Yes yes I drover her like I stole her especially so they could not see all the rust. The little narrow exhaust from the original 948 on my 1275 slaps out loud pops as i down shift. I truly feel like the gal on the book (see the last pic on my website). Just drive-em, Lin www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jul 10 22:38:01 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:38:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC ....lawn mower question In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707102103k771891c7s16515c32f7b9e418@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430706300913v1cae2261t5edd9163fab1d21b@mail.gmail.com> <000701c7bb8d$b4b82ba0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <205cef430707010839y138c5ed3hfc1e39d7666a3253@mail.gmail.com> <009b01c7bbb4$e0593ac0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <205cef430707102048p1e762d44nebc2749164a8345b@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910707102103k771891c7s16515c32f7b9e418@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430707102138i3bf1ecb8ve99fa970f12197a3@mail.gmail.com> Derf, Yes now that I have a pocket full of secret repair info I will have to be careful I don't let any stray trash mowers follow me home : ) Lin On 7/11/07, derf wrote: > > Yeah, I live in a middle class neighborhood. I could probably support > myself if I stopped and picked up every mower that I see people > discarding with the trash. I almost picked up an edger the other day > but we were in the Beetle and it was gone an hour later when we > returned. > Most times the mowers just need the debris cleaned from the fuel > bowls. They can many times be fixed for $0. My sister has three > mowers. She uses one until it quits, parks it, and uses another. > When all three are dead she calls me and I go over and spend an hour > making all three work again. She once had one that wouldn't run > because the air filter was so clogged with dust. I put a zillion > miles on go-karts and mowers in very dusty conditions but I never saw > anything like her dusted up mower. > Cheers, > Derf From pilotrob at webtv.net Wed Jul 11 04:39:40 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:39:40 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] She may not win a beauty pagent but my LBC was loud and fun today : ) Message-ID: Try running the 1275 stock 1.5" diameter exhaust....it should run even better. :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pilotrob at webtv.net Wed Jul 11 04:42:52 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:42:52 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a gasket Message-ID: www.piercemanifolds.com Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Wells Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 9:32 PM To: Mg List Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a gasket Hello all. I am looking for a couple-few gaskets that go between a Weber 3236 DCOE carb and the manifold. If anyone has any please let me know asap as I am ready to rid myself of the Zenith nightmare I have. I will of course buy them. Please let me know. Thanks. Ben Uncle Kevin if I am wrong on which carb it is please correct me. _______________________________________________ pilotrob at webtv.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pilotrob at webtv.net Wed Jul 11 05:00:18 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:00:18 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC Message-ID: "American company's "legacy" costs" patterned after American Government, obviously. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pythias at pacifier.com Wed Jul 11 06:47:23 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 05:47:23 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1582469133.20070711054723@pacifier.com> Hello Robert, well, it WAS the conservative's hero, Ronald Reagan who had the idea to let companies defund their pension programs----not have enough assets to cover their liabilities---- spend the money they HAD to pay of debts incurred in the future-----rather than proper fiscal management....... now when companies go out of business, the pension monies that people thought we put aside for THEIR future, CONTRACTED to them as a term of their employment... the creditors get what little IS set aside... employees and former employees... OOPS... too bad. -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite I am Homer of Borg. Prepare to be assimi... Oooh! Donuts! From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Jul 11 07:33:08 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 06:33:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] And I quote... Message-ID: <367052.46662.qm@web30514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> >From my teenage son this morning, who normally has difficulty expressing himself verbally, regarding my 1970 Midget, which is probably the least desirable of all my cars from a market value yet my personal favorite: "Dad, this car feels like freedom." Party on Garth, Ron From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jul 11 07:40:23 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 08:40:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC ....lawn mower question References: <205cef430706300913v1cae2261t5edd9163fab1d21b@mail.gmail.com><000701c7bb8d$b4b82ba0$f675fea9@p0k7l8><205cef430707010839y138c5ed3hfc1e39d7666a3253@mail.gmail.com><009b01c7bbb4$e0593ac0$f675fea9@p0k7l8><205cef430707102048p1e762d44nebc2749164a8345b@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910707102103k771891c7s16515c32f7b9e418@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00cc01c7c3c1$0891dd30$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Yeah, I live in a middle class neighborhood. I could probably support > myself if I stopped and picked up every mower that I see people > discarding with the trash. I am not quite that ambitious, but I do pride myself on never having purchased a lawn mower. . . From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jul 11 07:47:40 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 07:47:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] And I quote... In-Reply-To: <367052.46662.qm@web30514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <367052.46662.qm@web30514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707110647l1f1e842fpa1ec743232a06584@mail.gmail.com> At least he didn't say: "Freedom's just another word for nothin left to lose." But, from what he did say, I'll bet you are FINALLY thinking maybe he "gets it" after all, "gets it" meaning understands life and also inherits the car. My teenage son, having a license for about a month, blew the head gaskets on both my truck and my wife's daily driver Cherokee. So, he gets to drive the air cooled VW Beetle and we are getting grease under our fingernails daily playing with it. I had to laugh at him when we re-located the fuel filter from directly above the distibutor (bad) to near the transaxle to lessen the threat of fire. He just recently started driving it and subsequently using his own money for gas, instead of our gas cards. When we pulled the filter and cut the line and gas started dripping he kept saying "Hurry, lets hurry, gas is leaking out." We lost maybe 1/2 a cup of gas on the driveway. But, since he paid for that gas he understood that it was costing him by the second. He also lamented "I just put $16 in yesterday and it is back down to 1/4 tank." To which I reminded him all the places he drove. Cheers, Derf From BJ8Healey at msn.com Wed Jul 11 07:53:37 2007 From: BJ8Healey at msn.com (James Sailer) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 07:53:37 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Generator for bugeye Message-ID: Morning folks. My Bugeye project car is missing it's generator (amonst other things) and I am wondering how hard these are to come by. There is a cruddy one on e-bay ... Thanks. Jim Sailer From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jul 11 07:55:59 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 07:55:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC ....lawn mower question In-Reply-To: <00cc01c7c3c1$0891dd30$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <205cef430706300913v1cae2261t5edd9163fab1d21b@mail.gmail.com> <000701c7bb8d$b4b82ba0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <205cef430707010839y138c5ed3hfc1e39d7666a3253@mail.gmail.com> <009b01c7bbb4$e0593ac0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <205cef430707102048p1e762d44nebc2749164a8345b@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910707102103k771891c7s16515c32f7b9e418@mail.gmail.com> <00cc01c7c3c1$0891dd30$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707110655s2ef5ccf7s94120fd106242111@mail.gmail.com> Now that you mention it, I never bought one, either. The best mower I ever had was given to me by a friend. He was upset that his teenage son ran it without oil and blew the motor. It was a Snapper rider. So, I got a great mower with a blown motor and the teenager got to use a push mower. I spent $300 on a new 10 HP motor delivered and used that mower for years. Later, when the friend's teenage son was grown and moved out, we moved into a nicer place and my kids were old enough to mow. Now my kids get to push (self propelled, actually) and my old friend has the Snapper back, running great. The second best mower I ever had was an orange Ariens that my paw-in-law decided was worn out. He bought it new when I was in college and I used it to cut his grass. He took it in for service and they talked him into a new Toro. The old Ariens was still way better than the new Toro but he like the Toro's push handle propulsion control. We had moved away and he was back to mowing his own lawn. For a while we had the Snapper rider and Ariens self propelled at the same time. It was quite a lawn slaying fleet. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jul 11 07:57:24 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 07:57:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Generator for bugeye In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910707110657l4d6617f7y1753c93fc2e4e86e@mail.gmail.com> I'll help you out with that. See other post. From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jul 11 07:58:27 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 07:58:27 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Wanted: Bugeye Generator Message-ID: <5f00d9910707110658i484a398av915bfa4fcee52c90@mail.gmail.com> Need Bugeye generator for project car. Please respond to: James Sailer From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Wed Jul 11 08:06:02 2007 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:06:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] And I quote... Message-ID: <10410641.1184162762173.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hey Derf, I just realized who you really are! I think that I just got ripped off by you on ebay ;^). Crane Cam. Mike -----Original Message----- >From: derf >Sent: Jul 11, 2007 9:47 AM >To: Ron Soave >Cc: Spridgets >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] And I quote... > >At least he didn't say: >"Freedom's just another word for nothin left to lose." > >But, from what he did say, I'll bet you are FINALLY thinking maybe he >"gets it" after all, "gets it" meaning understands life and also >inherits the car. > >My teenage son, having a license for about a month, blew the head >gaskets on both my truck and my wife's daily driver Cherokee. So, he >gets to drive the air cooled VW Beetle and we are getting grease under >our fingernails daily playing with it. > >I had to laugh at him when we re-located the fuel filter from directly >above the distibutor (bad) to near the transaxle to lessen the threat >of fire. He just recently started driving it and subsequently using >his own money for gas, instead of our gas cards. When we pulled the >filter and cut the line and gas started dripping he kept saying >"Hurry, lets hurry, gas is leaking out." We lost maybe 1/2 a cup of >gas on the driveway. But, since he paid for that gas he understood >that it was costing him by the second. He also lamented "I just put >$16 in yesterday and it is back down to 1/4 tank." To which I >reminded him all the places he drove. >Cheers, >Derf ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jul 11 08:23:43 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 08:23:43 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] And I quote... In-Reply-To: <10410641.1184162762173.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <10410641.1184162762173.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707110723s487ea8bax3ab80d92555ff856@mail.gmail.com> Hi, You can't prove anything. Ok, I shipped your cam yesterday. I offered that cam to the list on May 24th in a thread titled "Performance Stuff For Sale". Why didn't you let me know then that you wanted it? I probably would have let you have it for a little less than the ebay bid. Still, you got a pretty good deal on a new performance cam. Cheers, Derf On 7/11/07, Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote: > Hey Derf, > > I just realized who you really are! > > I think that I just got ripped off by you on ebay ;^). Crane Cam. > > Mike From jmbawe at localnet.com Wed Jul 11 09:08:12 2007 From: jmbawe at localnet.com (Jerry Wells) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:08:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a gasket Message-ID: <003901c7c3cd$4d79fa20$050db340@wellsfamily> I would order through pierce manifolds but they have a $20 minimum order, and I don't need ten gaskets. Ben From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Wed Jul 11 10:07:52 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 09:07:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Slow starting? Message-ID: <000e01c7c3d5$a480bfe0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Any of you who complain of a slow starting, slow warm up engine, take a look at this one. Paul A http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002410000-2007310870,00.html From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Wed Jul 11 10:57:58 2007 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:57:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] And I quote... Message-ID: <16387010.1184173078084.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hi Derf, It still was a good buy. It just took me a while to figure out it was you. I'm kinda slow ;^)). Mike -----Original Message----- >From: derf >Sent: Jul 11, 2007 10:23 AM >To: Mike/Donna Carpenter >Cc: Spridgets >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] And I quote... > >Hi, >You can't prove anything. >Ok, I shipped your cam yesterday. I offered that cam to the list on >May 24th in a thread titled "Performance Stuff For Sale". Why didn't >you let me know then that you wanted it? I probably would have let >you have it for a little less than the ebay bid. Still, you got a >pretty good deal on a new performance cam. >Cheers, >Derf > > >On 7/11/07, Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote: >> Hey Derf, >> >> I just realized who you really are! >> >> I think that I just got ripped off by you on ebay ;^). Crane Cam. >> >> Mike ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 11 12:12:53 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:12:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Slow starting? References: <000e01c7c3d5$a480bfe0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <032101c7c3e7$1b7f0780$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Asgeirsson" To: ; ; Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 11:07 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Slow starting? Any of you who complain of a slow starting, slow warm up engine, take a look at this one. Paul A http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002410000-2007310870,00.html _______________________________________________ Despite that questionable title (if true, I'd like to meet her), that is an interesting article. I never would have imagined that a car back then could hit 38mph. Larry Daniels 79 MGB LE 60 Bugeye 67 Austin A60 Pickup (Ute) "You only need two tools: WD-40 and Duct Tape. If it doesn't move and should, use the WD-40. If it shouldn't move and does, use the duct tape." From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jul 11 12:35:09 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:35:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] And I quote... In-Reply-To: <367052.46662.qm@web30514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <367052.46662.qm@web30514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <469522DD.5030908@comcast.net> Ron Soave wrote: > "Dad, this car feels like freedom." Ron, set the kid straight. The car IS freedom. At least from all those dishwashers on wheels. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jul 11 13:21:08 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:21:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Slow starting? References: <000e01c7c3d5$a480bfe0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <032101c7c3e7$1b7f0780$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <000e01c7c3f0$a2dc1c50$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Despite that questionable title (if true, I'd like to meet her), that is > an > interesting article. I never would have imagined that a car back then > could > hit 38mph. Steam technology was already quite advanced at that time, due to the ubiquity of the steam locomotive. Not unbelievable numbers. From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Wed Jul 11 13:30:34 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:30:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Generator for bugeye References: Message-ID: <003901c7c3f2$1217cc80$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Hi Jim, Not sure where you are, but NAPA and the suppliers on the lists have them. Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Sailer" To: "Spridget List" Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 6:53 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Generator for bugeye > Morning folks. > > My Bugeye project car is missing it's generator (amonst other things) and I am > wondering how hard these are to come by. There is a cruddy one on e-bay ... > > Thanks. > > Jim Sailer From RobertDuquette at Sympatico.ca Wed Jul 11 16:16:47 2007 From: RobertDuquette at Sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:16:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] recover DVD - no LBC Message-ID: <00e601c7c409$2c28ce50$6501a8c0@RobertDuquette> Oh knowledgeable gurus. I was at a wedding yesterday. I now find that one side of the recordable dvd from my video camera isn't readable from the download program. I can see some files when I use windows explorer. A google tells me that there is software out there to do recoveries. Does anyone have any experience with any of them? Thanks! Robert D From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jul 11 16:20:21 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 16:20:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] recover DVD - no LBC In-Reply-To: <00e601c7c409$2c28ce50$6501a8c0@RobertDuquette> References: <00e601c7c409$2c28ce50$6501a8c0@RobertDuquette> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707111520g656e0383s60f0e146a0cf6e19@mail.gmail.com> If it is super important then send it out to a professional. You'd be surprised what they can recover. Shop around for a good price, though. Some will try to gouge you. Cheers, Derf On 7/11/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > Oh knowledgeable gurus. > > > > I was at a wedding yesterday. I now find that one side of the recordable > dvd from my video camera isn't readable from the download program. I can > see some files when I use windows explorer. > > > > A google tells me that there is software out there to do recoveries. Does > anyone have any experience with any of them? > > > > Thanks! > > Robert D > _______________________________________________ > derf247 at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From RobertDuquette at Sympatico.ca Wed Jul 11 16:24:47 2007 From: RobertDuquette at Sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:24:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] recover DVD - no LBC In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707111520g656e0383s60f0e146a0cf6e19@mail.gmail.com> References: <00e601c7c409$2c28ce50$6501a8c0@RobertDuquette> <5f00d9910707111520g656e0383s60f0e146a0cf6e19@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00eb01c7c40a$4a290db0$6501a8c0@RobertDuquette> No, it's not 'super important'. I'm not the professional wedding video guy; just family. My niece got married. -----Original Message----- From: derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] Sent: July 11, 2007 6:20 PM To: Robert Duquette Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] recover DVD - no LBC If it is super important then send it out to a professional. You'd be surprised what they can recover. Shop around for a good price, though. Some will try to gouge you. Cheers, Derf On 7/11/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > Oh knowledgeable gurus. > > > > I was at a wedding yesterday. I now find that one side of the recordable > dvd from my video camera isn't readable from the download program. I can > see some files when I use windows explorer. > > > > A google tells me that there is software out there to do recoveries. Does > anyone have any experience with any of them? > > > > Thanks! > > Robert D > _______________________________________________ > derf247 at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Jul 11 16:27:24 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:27:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] recover DVD - no LBC In-Reply-To: <00e601c7c409$2c28ce50$6501a8c0@RobertDuquette> Message-ID: <330210.46552.qm@web30514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Robert Duquette wrote: > Oh knowledgeable gurus. Well...this is definitely bringing a gun to a knife fight, but THE BEST in my experience is: www.ontrackdatarecovery.com They saved my bacon when I had a statistically impossible failure of our network servers on a Friday night at 5 PM. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC From RobertDuquette at Sympatico.ca Wed Jul 11 17:59:52 2007 From: RobertDuquette at Sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:59:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] recover DVD - no LBC In-Reply-To: <330210.46552.qm@web30514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <00e601c7c409$2c28ce50$6501a8c0@RobertDuquette> <330210.46552.qm@web30514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00ec01c7c417$92551590$6501a8c0@RobertDuquette> I was thinking along the lines of freeware! :) I did have a hard drive failure once where it was going to cost $1500 to get most of my data back, except for what I needed, unfortunately. -----Original Message----- From: Ron Soave [mailto:soavero at yahoo.com] Sent: July 11, 2007 6:27 PM To: Robert Duquette; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] recover DVD - no LBC --- Robert Duquette wrote: > Oh knowledgeable gurus. Well...this is definitely bringing a gun to a knife fight, but THE BEST in my experience is: www.ontrackdatarecovery.com They saved my bacon when I had a statistically impossible failure of our network servers on a Friday night at 5 PM. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC From davriker at digitalpath.net Wed Jul 11 19:14:10 2007 From: davriker at digitalpath.net (David Riker) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:14:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC References: <017c01c7c2e4$c35973e0$6401a8c0@Larry><1541910166.20070710055043@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <00b201c7c421$f3d81ce0$6400a8c0@dave> No, people are buying Toyotas and Honda's because they are SHEEP. They can't think for themselves, and so they do what their neighbor does. I work for a new car dealer that is a Honda/Ford/Chevrolet store. I'm so sick of people coming in and saying they want a Honda, but when I ask them what it is about the Honda that has them looking to that brand, and they don't even know! I've got news for all of you, our Honda mechanics are as busy as our Ford Mechanics.... A Honda Civic Si or a Mustang GT, same frigging price. Honda Pilot? Just a minivan with doors. The Fit? People are paying over sticker and it is a pos! Poor fit & Finish, cheap plastics, and did I mention UGLY? The Chevy Aveo is screwed together better, and for about $4k less equally equipped. Ridgeline a truck? No, just a minivan with the back cut off. V-6 with a front drive bias. Unibody to boot. Pull a fifth wheel with one? Not on your life. David Riker davriker at digitalpath.net http://community.webshots.com/user/fool4mg http://www.myspace.com/fool4mg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nory" To: "Bill L" ; "Spridgets List" Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC > But Toyotas cost more than Fords...... > > People are buying the Toyotas and Hondas not because of the cost, but > because of the reliability factor. Consumer Reports recently pointed > out that 10 year old Toyotas were more reliable than 5 year old cars > from the major American auto manufacturers (in addition to a few > other foreign ones as well). From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jul 11 19:40:34 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:40:34 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC In-Reply-To: <00b201c7c421$f3d81ce0$6400a8c0@dave> References: <017c01c7c2e4$c35973e0$6401a8c0@Larry> <1541910166.20070710055043@pacifier.com> <00b201c7c421$f3d81ce0$6400a8c0@dave> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707111840w340337a1tde34a237f4242c2a@mail.gmail.com> My 2000 Ford F-150 just died, again. Kid hotdogging it blew the head gasket. Try finding a used Toyota truck. There aren't any. If you do find one, it is expensive. Is it a better truck? I dunno. But, the resale market is sure high for them. That says something. People remember when Detroit made cars that went 100,000 miles if you were lucky and took care of them. Then, Honda and Toyota started making cars that would go 200,000 if you took care of them. Now, riding that reputation and having luxury lines based on it, the Japanese cars are reaping the benefits. I've worked on a $60,000 Corvette, 2007 I think. I wouldn't call it ugly but it is more plastic and glue than steel and welds. If you pick up the fender in the middle(not mounted on the car) it will collapse like a rag doll. A friend has a Hummer H2. It says Hummer and is boxy but it rides on a 3/4 GMC truck chassis. They cost around $60,000, too for a 3/4 ton truck SUV with boxy styling. People are sheep. Good new cars are hard to find. Cheers, Derf From kevin at valentinephoto.net Wed Jul 11 19:42:14 2007 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:42:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a gasket In-Reply-To: <00a501c7c35b$6f2c4140$550db340@wellsfamily> References: <00a501c7c35b$6f2c4140$550db340@wellsfamily> Message-ID: <3AFE262E-3EB2-42BB-A8F8-EAB7438C182D@valentinephoto.net> On Jul 10, 2007, at 9:32 PM, Jerry Wells wrote: > Hello all. > > I am looking for a couple-few gaskets that go between a Weber 3236 > DCOE carb It is a DGV (downdraft). Not a DCOE. Kevin V. From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Wed Jul 11 19:44:48 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:44:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC References: <017c01c7c2e4$c35973e0$6401a8c0@Larry><1541910166.20070710055043@pacifier.com><00b201c7c421$f3d81ce0$6400a8c0@dave> <5f00d9910707111840w340337a1tde34a237f4242c2a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <035c01c7c426$3b92b460$6501a8c0@actualshop> Derf: <> Frank has one he won't sell me!!!LOL Do yourself a HUGE favor and browse e-bay for mid-60s to mid-70s p/u. Why do you think I drive a '70 Camino EVERY day??!!!!! From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jul 11 19:47:06 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:47:06 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC In-Reply-To: <035c01c7c426$3b92b460$6501a8c0@actualshop> References: <017c01c7c2e4$c35973e0$6401a8c0@Larry> <1541910166.20070710055043@pacifier.com> <00b201c7c421$f3d81ce0$6400a8c0@dave> <5f00d9910707111840w340337a1tde34a237f4242c2a@mail.gmail.com> <035c01c7c426$3b92b460$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707111847q22fdaae2x82af3c34bd2dbb99@mail.gmail.com> My aunt bought a new Mistubishi SUV a while back. She is going to give me her 1988 GMC pickup. It should keep me rolling for a while until I can find something better. CHeers, Derf From type79 at ix.netcom.com Wed Jul 11 19:53:02 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:53:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC Message-ID: <334997.1184205182578.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Uhhhhhhhhh ....... Groundhog Day? jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ -----Original Message----- >From: WJHS1960 >Sent: Jul 11, 2007 9:44 PM >To: Spridgets >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC > > >Why do you think I drive a '70 Camino EVERY day??!!!!! From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jul 11 19:52:49 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:52:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707111840w340337a1tde34a237f4242c2a@mail.gmail.com> References: <017c01c7c2e4$c35973e0$6401a8c0@Larry> <1541910166.20070710055043@pacifier.com> <00b201c7c421$f3d81ce0$6400a8c0@dave> <5f00d9910707111840w340337a1tde34a237f4242c2a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46958971.9010104@comcast.net> derf wrote: > My 2000 Ford F-150 just died, again. Kid hotdogging it blew the head gasket. > Try finding a used Toyota truck. There aren't any. If you do find > one, it is expensive. Is it a better truck? I dunno. In the trades, guys started buying the jap trucks, not the ridgeline which is, I don't know what it is, but toyotas and those nissans with the bolt on plastic flares that shout "I really look cheesy" But on the job they just do not hold up. My buddy has a toyota taco, it's a couple years old and has more dents from leaning over the sides. It runs fine but it looks like a POS and appearance on an estimate does matter. They are trucks that are for people who don't need a truck. If you use it as a truck, it's not gonig to hold up. The older jap trucks had single wall beds, how many of them had outward dents from cargo? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jul 11 19:58:34 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:58:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC In-Reply-To: <035c01c7c426$3b92b460$6501a8c0@actualshop> References: <017c01c7c2e4$c35973e0$6401a8c0@Larry><1541910166.20070710055043@pacifier.com><00b201c7c421$f3d81ce0$6400a8c0@dave> <5f00d9910707111840w340337a1tde34a237f4242c2a@mail.gmail.com> <035c01c7c426$3b92b460$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <46958ACA.2060703@comcast.net> WJHS1960 wrote: > Why do you think I drive a '70 Camino EVERY day??!!!!! Cuz you don't know any better? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jul 11 20:00:59 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:00:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC In-Reply-To: <46958971.9010104@comcast.net> References: <017c01c7c2e4$c35973e0$6401a8c0@Larry> <1541910166.20070710055043@pacifier.com> <00b201c7c421$f3d81ce0$6400a8c0@dave> <5f00d9910707111840w340337a1tde34a237f4242c2a@mail.gmail.com> <46958971.9010104@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707111900m40492862lb40ee0c6f3772c9d@mail.gmail.com> You should drive the Sprite to all estimates and meetings. I only need a truck once in a while to haul equipment. I can make service calls in the Miata. The Miata won't pull the Whaler, though. Cheers, Derf From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Wed Jul 11 20:13:17 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:13:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a gasket References: <00a501c7c35b$6f2c4140$550db340@wellsfamily> <3AFE262E-3EB2-42BB-A8F8-EAB7438C182D@valentinephoto.net> Message-ID: <003d01c7c42a$36dbe640$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Hi Kevin, Early Mazda PU trucks use this same gasket. NAPA has them. Try FPG line 60287 Carb Mounting. It's like a buck 50 or so ----- Original Message ----- From: "K. Valentine" To: "Jerry Wells" Cc: "Mg List" Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Looking for a gasket > On Jul 10, 2007, at 9:32 PM, Jerry Wells wrote: > > > Hello all. > > > > I am looking for a couple-few gaskets that go between a Weber 3236 > > DCOE carb > > > > It is a DGV (downdraft). Not a DCOE. > > Kevin V. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jul 11 20:21:21 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:21:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC In-Reply-To: <00b201c7c421$f3d81ce0$6400a8c0@dave> Message-ID: > I work > for a new car dealer Yeah...we can tell. From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Wed Jul 11 20:26:21 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:26:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC References: <017c01c7c2e4$c35973e0$6401a8c0@Larry><1541910166.20070710055043@pacifier.com><00b201c7c421$f3d81ce0$6400a8c0@dave><5f00d9910707111840w340337a1tde34a237f4242c2a@mail.gmail.com><035c01c7c426$3b92b460$6501a8c0@actualshop> <46958ACA.2060703@comcast.net> Message-ID: <048401c7c42c$09b65d60$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> Sorry Frank, it is because I DO "know better". Has YOUR Ford P/U APPRECIATED since you bought it?? NAH!! Has my Camino?? YEP!! VBG!!! From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Wed Jul 11 20:27:25 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:27:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC References: <017c01c7c2e4$c35973e0$6401a8c0@Larry><1541910166.20070710055043@pacifier.com><00b201c7c421$f3d81ce0$6400a8c0@dave><5f00d9910707111840w340337a1tde34a237f4242c2a@mail.gmail.com><46958971.9010104@comcast.net> <5f00d9910707111900m40492862lb40ee0c6f3772c9d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <048a01c7c42c$2fbf74b0$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> Camino would tho, derF!! !! From MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com Wed Jul 11 20:38:06 2007 From: MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com (MICHAEL CARPENTER) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 22:38:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC References: <017c01c7c2e4$c35973e0$6401a8c0@Larry><1541910166.20070710055043@pacifier.com><00b201c7c421$f3d81ce0$6400a8c0@dave><5f00d9910707111840w340337a1tde34a237f4242c2a@mail.gmail.com><035c01c7c426$3b92b460$6501a8c0@actualshop><46958ACA.2060703@comcast.net> <048401c7c42c$09b65d60$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <007b01c7c42d$ad7e81b0$b4eef804@D1PWFG61> To realize appreciation, first ya gotta find somebody dumb enough to buy the chevette er I mean chevelle . . . what is it again? I already forgot as it is so forgettable ;^). MC ----- Original Message ----- From: "63AHBJ7" <63AHBJ7 at comcast.net> To: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 10:26 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC > <> > > Sorry Frank, it is because I DO "know better". Has YOUR Ford P/U > APPRECIATED > since you bought it?? NAH!! > > Has my Camino?? YEP!! VBG!!! From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Wed Jul 11 20:38:53 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:38:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC In-Reply-To: <46958971.9010104@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200707120235.l6C2Zqhn014517@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> How many still have metal after a couple of winters? Sure the engine still ran, but I never saw one corrode so quick. They don't dent here. They shatter... Chris 66MKIII Brookfield, WI -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 8:53 PM To: derf Cc: Spridgets List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC The older jap trucks had single wall beds, how many of them had outward dents from cargo? From millerls at ado13.com Wed Jul 11 21:05:58 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:05:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC References: <20070710231727.18696.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <074401c7c431$928b9010$d280bc43@HP> I've driven Tundra V8's since they first came out, including a new Crewmax with the 5.7 engine. I've yet to break a camshaft or receive a recall notice. Larry Miller > --- Jim Johnson wrote: >> European and Far >> Eastern auto makers had to design, build and sell >> vehicles for rural >> and farm use > > The new Toyota Tundra is designed for that. It was > recalled because the camshafts are snapping in half. > > Ron Soave From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Jul 11 21:09:52 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:09:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC In-Reply-To: <074401c7c431$928b9010$d280bc43@HP> Message-ID: <20070712030952.37583.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> http://www.lemonauto.com/complaints/toyota/toyota_tundra.htm --- Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > I've driven Tundra V8's since they first came out, > including a new Crewmax > with the 5.7 engine. I've yet to break a camshaft or > receive a recall > notice. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Jul 11 21:16:32 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Stupid scanner radio question = No direct LBC Message-ID: <542316.11748.qm@web30509.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'm thinking about buying a cheap handheld scanner radio for the racetrack to listen to race control. Aside from the track, is there anything else such a device would be good for? I always felt ambulance chasing is in poor taste, and a scanner would take the sport out of it anyway. Thanks - Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jul 11 21:20:14 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:20:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Stupid scanner radio question = No direct LBC In-Reply-To: <542316.11748.qm@web30509.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: It's more fun to just listen to your cordless phone with the base unit unplugged. From millerls at ado13.com Wed Jul 11 22:46:49 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:46:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC References: <20070712030952.37583.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <074b01c7c43f$a92841c0$d280bc43@HP> Thanks for the info. I will check with Toyota and see what they say about mine. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Larry & Sandi Miller" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC > http://www.lemonauto.com/complaints/toyota/toyota_tundra.htm > > --- Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > >> I've driven Tundra V8's since they first came out, >> including a new Crewmax >> with the 5.7 engine. I've yet to break a camshaft or >> receive a recall >> notice. > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Need a vacation? Get great deals > to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. > http://travel.yahoo.com/ From millerls at ado13.com Wed Jul 11 22:48:03 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:48:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Stupid scanner radio question = No direct LBC References: <542316.11748.qm@web30509.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <075601c7c43f$d73866d0$d280bc43@HP> Airport control tower traffic. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 8:16 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Stupid scanner radio question = No direct LBC > I'm thinking about buying a cheap handheld scanner > radio for the racetrack to listen to race control. > Aside from the track, is there anything else such a > device would be good for? I always felt ambulance > chasing is in poor taste, and a scanner would take the > sport out of it anyway. > > Thanks - > Ron From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Thu Jul 12 01:32:41 2007 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 01:32:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Can anybody send me links for BusterCluster? Message-ID: <2162.1184225561@gerardsgarage.com> I'm not at home and don't have my computer with me to look up old emails or links. I want to forward them to a friend. P.S. I arrived in Pittsburgh tonight and it turns out my friend lives within a couple blocks of Schenley Park. Gerard From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jul 12 07:16:14 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 07:16:14 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Can anybody send me links for BusterCluster? In-Reply-To: <2162.1184225561@gerardsgarage.com> References: <2162.1184225561@gerardsgarage.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707120616h57b3c005n52e220dbbf3fa89f@mail.gmail.com> Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs1klEzra24 Poster: http://www.cafepress.com/drippings.75290234 Link: http://ado13.com/BusterCluster.html Cheers, Derf From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jul 12 07:40:09 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 9:40:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Can anybody send me links for BusterCluster? Message-ID: <20070712134009.JRAN3229.tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Wow! In the link below, the people sure did age a lot between the time they picked up the car and when they put it back down !!! :) > From: derf > > Poster: > http://www.cafepress.com/drippings.75290234 From cfchrist at earthlink.net Thu Jul 12 09:07:49 2007 From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:07:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] a midget spotted? Message-ID: <15142429.1184252869526.JavaMail.root@elwamui-wigeon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> anyone know who owns the midget and blue early corvair convertible on rte 895 near rte 61 in eastern pa.? kevin , i know you are familiar with the area since we passed each other in that silly rte 895 drainage culvert installation stuff last year. \i pass these cars frequently and am not very comfortable just pulling up the long driveway and pounding on their door. chuck. From cciaffone at verizon.net Thu Jul 12 09:16:41 2007 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:16:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Reddish SWA In RTP NC?? Message-ID: <469645D9.8040100@verizon.net> While out running this morning in Research Triangle Park NC I saw a reddish/burgundyish (the heat was getting to me)SWA Spridget on Cornwallis Road. Any y'all?? chuck From pvanwig at charter.net Thu Jul 12 09:35:59 2007 From: pvanwig at charter.net (Paul Van Wig) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 08:35:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A MODERN PARABLE -- No LBC In-Reply-To: <074b01c7c43f$a92841c0$d280bc43@HP> References: <20070712030952.37583.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <074b01c7c43f$a92841c0$d280bc43@HP> Message-ID: <001301c7c49a$58be9080$9300a8c0@paula8e530ae64> I am an LA County Lifeguard and we have used Nissan Pickups on the beach since about 84? With one contract with Ford. (They busted right and left.)The county does not pay for them its advertisement for the company. We use them for two years then trade them back. They are ok 4x4s for the sand. But I would never own one.(OK I'm 6'4") Nissan gave us some Titians that they wanted to replace our 5 one ton Call Car trucks but we carry more than the payload of the Titians not counting the extra weight of the utility bed. I use a Dodge 3/4 ton 4x4 with the Cummins turbo Diesel my self. The last one had 100k when I traded it in very few problems over all. Paul Van Wig pvanwig at charter.net 60 Bugeye 60 Minor Woody From bpazur at excel.net Thu Jul 12 10:36:41 2007 From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:36:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Modern Parable - No LBC Message-ID: <200707121636.l6CGafCe025914@green.excel.net> I sold my 1993 Toyota truck to a Hmong (you know, the Laotians and Cambodians who fought the 'Secret' Viet Nam war for the CIA, by spying on the Cong and NVRA, then had to be airlifted to America or face genocide after we pulled out). They were used to Toyota trucks over there, and won't drive anything else here. They pay top dollar for any used Toyota truck. I sold it in 2005, at 12 years old, and with almost 200K miles on it. It ran like a top, no repairs, but I needed a bigger truck to trailer my race car. I bought a Tundra and have been very happy with it. Bud Pazur '60 Bugeye - Street Car - 1275cc - 'Whitey' Race Spridget - 1275cc - 'SilverStreak' "The Buddha ... resides as comfortably in the gears of a ...transmission as he does in the petals of a flower." - Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance From lists at woozy.com Thu Jul 12 10:44:50 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 12:44:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Reddish SWA In RTP NC?? In-Reply-To: <469645D9.8040100@verizon.net> References: <469645D9.8040100@verizon.net> Message-ID: <46965A81.6090908@woozy.com> I believe that would have been me. Was this the car?: http://tinyurl.com/2l3etl I was driving my son to daycare at RTI then heading over to my office on rt54. You wouldn't be Mari's dad by any chance? Robert chuck wrote: > While out running this morning in Research Triangle Park NC I > saw a reddish/burgundyish (the heat was getting to me)SWA > Spridget on Cornwallis Road. > > Any y'all?? > > chuck > _______________________________________________ > lists at woozy.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 12 10:44:03 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:44:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Adios USGP Message-ID: <002f01c7c4a3$dc48a450$6401a8c0@Larry> http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070712/FREE/70712004/150 8/newsletter02 From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Thu Jul 12 11:12:09 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 12:12:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Frogeye F/S References: <469645D9.8040100@verizon.net> <46965A81.6090908@woozy.com> Message-ID: <029801c7c4a7$c8470ab0$6501a8c0@actualshop> My car For Sale has its verbage and pictures on Ed's site at www.justbrits.com in Cars For Sale section. Please take a look and contact me if you're interested. Bob Berwick From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jul 12 11:21:58 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 12:21:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A REAL Mazda for sale Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070712120958.033c0c30@mailbag.com> OK... indulge me for a moment. A friend has asked me to help him sell his Mazda RX7 1983. He's owned the car since new. He used to love it, and he cared for it. Now, after having new tires,new brakes, starter, alternator, etc. done, it got hit in the left rear 1/4. This all happened a year ago. He can't get motivated to fix it, and doesn't want to look at it any more. 1983 RX7 5 speed Silver 110,000 miles NO RUST, Never driven winters. 1 rotor seal has failed which means the engine needs rebuilding, though it does run. Left quarter is damaged. He said a coupla hundred dollars. Located 40 Miles north of Madison WI Thanks Peter C Lord, I pray my brakes are twice as good as the guy in front of me.... ... and half as good as the guy behind. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jul 12 11:43:33 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:43:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] A REAL Mazda for sale In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070712120958.033c0c30@mailbag.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070712120958.033c0c30@mailbag.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707121043v1769c051j2cfa7b7becff1a25@mail.gmail.com> >"A REAL Mazda for sale" Drivers of the world's best selling roadster might consider our Mazdas to be real. Mazda does not necessarily mean Wankel. BTW Dominic Toretto's ride in TFATF was a later model RX-7. From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Thu Jul 12 11:47:44 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 12:47:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A REAL Mazda for sale In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707121043v1769c051j2cfa7b7becff1a25@mail.gmail.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070712120958.033c0c30@mailbag.com> <5f00d9910707121043v1769c051j2cfa7b7becff1a25@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0707121047l59508f38h5f687f565f9b13d9@mail.gmail.com> no, he's right. miatas are an embarassement compared to an rx7. Similarily analagous to that time when ol' Wishful Thinking tried to compare his broken spridget to a miata. On 7/12/07, derf wrote: > > >"A REAL Mazda for sale" > > Drivers of the world's best selling roadster might consider our Mazdas > to be real. Mazda does not necessarily mean Wankel. > > BTW Dominic Toretto's ride in TFATF was a later model RX-7. > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Jul 12 11:54:29 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:54:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] She may not win a beauty pagent but my LBC was loud and fun today : ) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <205cef430707121054p5449790ei8b09471a6cd155c0@mail.gmail.com> Thanks Cap'n but will I loose that very cool pop pop sound I love so much? Lin On 7/11/07, Robert E. Shlafer wrote: > > Try running the 1275 stock 1.5" diameter exhaust....it should run even > better. :) > > Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Thu Jul 12 11:59:39 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 12:59:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] She may not win a beauty pagent but my LBC was loud and fun today : ) In-Reply-To: <205cef430707102113s1f67398h55bc7690f72864c8@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430707102113s1f67398h55bc7690f72864c8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0707121059q429ccb47y7dc5300d783b93bd@mail.gmail.com> Faux Patina is very popular in the VW circles. You should fit right in with the "kids" (Children of Hippies, Inc. :p) On 7/10/07, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > List, > I took my LBC out today and she was so loud and fun I could hardly control > myself. I'm sure the people who heard her coming around the corner were > expecting to see a big muscle car and were shocked to see this little > rusty > faded pink car. Yes yes I drover her like I stole her especially so they > could not see all the rust. The little narrow exhaust from the original > 948 > on my 1275 slaps out loud pops as i down shift. I truly feel like the gal > on > the book (see the last pic on my website). > Just drive-em, > Lin > > www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jul 12 12:07:46 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:07:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A REAL Mazda for sale In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0707121047l59508f38h5f687f565f9b13d9@mail.gmail.co m> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070712120958.033c0c30@mailbag.com> <5f00d9910707121043v1769c051j2cfa7b7becff1a25@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0707121047l59508f38h5f687f565f9b13d9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070712130617.01c1cf00@nosimport.com> You guys are so predictable.... At 12:47 PM 7/12/2007, Flash. wrote: >no, he's right. miatas are an embarassement compared to an rx7. Similarily >analagous to that time when ol' Wishful Thinking tried to compare his broken >spridget to a miata. > >On 7/12/07, derf wrote: > > > > >"A REAL Mazda for sale" > > > > Drivers of the world's best selling roadster might consider our Mazdas > > to be real. Mazda does not necessarily mean Wankel. > > > > BTW Dominic Toretto's ride in TFATF was a later model RX-7. From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Thu Jul 12 12:22:34 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:22:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A REAL Mazda for sale In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070712130617.01c1cf00@nosimport.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070712120958.033c0c30@mailbag.com> <5f00d9910707121043v1769c051j2cfa7b7becff1a25@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0707121047l59508f38h5f687f565f9b13d9@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070712130617.01c1cf00@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0707121122m32d394a5t17a0c5a6fb7fb66f@mail.gmail.com> Damnit! That's the worst thing you could have said :( how much is this guy asking? On 7/12/07, Peter C wrote: > > You guys are so predictable.... > > At 12:47 PM 7/12/2007, Flash. wrote: > > >no, he's right. miatas are an embarassement compared to an > rx7. Similarily > >analagous to that time when ol' Wishful Thinking tried to compare his > broken > >spridget to a miata. > > > >On 7/12/07, derf wrote: > > > > > > >"A REAL Mazda for sale" > > > > > > Drivers of the world's best selling roadster might consider our Mazdas > > > to be real. Mazda does not necessarily mean Wankel. > > > > > > BTW Dominic Toretto's ride in TFATF was a later model RX-7. > _______________________________________________ > > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Jul 12 12:26:43 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:26:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] She may not win a beauty pagent but my LBC was loud and fun today : ) In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0707121059q429ccb47y7dc5300d783b93bd@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430707102113s1f67398h55bc7690f72864c8@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0707121059q429ccb47y7dc5300d783b93bd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430707121126l43e294b0v3b4d065b2ef79dc6@mail.gmail.com> What is Faux Patina VW, I'm still looking for my VW bus as we speak I would rather buy a Barndoor (50's) or 60-67 but there's a 79 T2 on eBay that a woman owns and can't drive a stick (poor thing) so I may win it at a very reasonable price to just get started in that counter culture of VDubs : ) Lin On 7/12/07, Flash. wrote: > > Faux Patina is very popular in the VW circles. You should fit right in > with > the "kids" (Children of Hippies, Inc. :p) > > > > > On 7/10/07, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > > > List, > > I took my LBC out today and she was so loud and fun I could hardly > control > > myself. I'm sure the people who heard her coming around the corner were > > expecting to see a big muscle car and were shocked to see this little > > rusty > > faded pink car. Yes yes I drover her like I stole her especially so they > > could not see all the rust. The little narrow exhaust from the original > > 948 > > on my 1275 slaps out loud pops as i down shift. I truly feel like the > gal > > on > > the book (see the last pic on my website). > > Just drive-em, > > Lin > > > > www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner > > > > > > -- > http://btdtracing.com > 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata > 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 > _______________________________________________ > grunthaner at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Jul 12 12:26:45 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (W, Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:26:45 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spridgets] A REAL Mazda for sale In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070712130617.01c1cf00@nosimport.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070712120958.033c0c30@mailbag.com> <5f00d9910707121043v1769c051j2cfa7b7becff1a25@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0707121047l59508f38h5f687f565f9b13d9@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070712130617.01c1cf00@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <4850.64.25.6.225.1184264805.squirrel@www.thicko.com> "you guys"... must be some sort of code... intended not to set Larry off. > You guys are so predictable.... > > At 12:47 PM 7/12/2007, Flash. wrote: > >>no, he's right. miatas are an embarassement compared to an rx7. >> Similarily >>analagous to that time when ol' Wishful Thinking tried to compare his >> broken >>spridget to a miata. >> >>On 7/12/07, derf wrote: >> > >> > >"A REAL Mazda for sale" >> > >> > Drivers of the world's best selling roadster might consider our Mazdas >> > to be real. Mazda does not necessarily mean Wankel. >> > >> > BTW Dominic Toretto's ride in TFATF was a later model RX-7. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 12 12:29:34 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:29:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A REAL Mazda for sale References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070712120958.033c0c30@mailbag.com><5f00d9910707121043v1769c051j2cfa7b7becff1a25@mail.gmail.com><8a336b9d0707121047l59508f38h5f687f565f9b13d9@mail.gmail.com><7.0.1.0.2.20070712130617.01c1cf00@nosimport.com> <4850.64.25.6.225.1184264805.squirrel@www.thicko.com> Message-ID: <00bc01c7c4b2$994cf9d0$6401a8c0@Larry> Hey, keep me outta this!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "W, Severin Thompson" To: "Peter C" Cc: "Spridget List" Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A REAL Mazda for sale "you guys"... must be some sort of code... intended not to set Larry off. > You guys are so predictable.... > > At 12:47 PM 7/12/2007, Flash. wrote: > >>no, he's right. miatas are an embarassement compared to an rx7. >> Similarily >>analagous to that time when ol' Wishful Thinking tried to compare his >> broken >>spridget to a miata. >> >>On 7/12/07, derf wrote: >> > >> > >"A REAL Mazda for sale" >> > >> > Drivers of the world's best selling roadster might consider our Mazdas >> > to be real. Mazda does not necessarily mean Wankel. >> > >> > BTW Dominic Toretto's ride in TFATF was a later model RX-7. _______________________________________________ ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jul 12 12:31:39 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:31:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A REAL Mazda for sale References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070712120958.033c0c30@mailbag.com><5f00d9910707121043v1769c051j2cfa7b7becff1a25@mail.gmail.com><8a336b9d0707121047l59508f38h5f687f565f9b13d9@mail.gmail.com><7.0.1.0.2.20070712130617.01c1cf00@nosimport.com> <4850.64.25.6.225.1184264805.squirrel@www.thicko.com> Message-ID: <004201c7c4b2$e37fba10$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >>>analagous to that time when ol' Wishful Thinking tried to compare his Come on Flash, that is "WiSTful Thinking", although Wishful might be more accurate ;-) You know you need an RX7 with a crashed rear quarter! David Libelous From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jul 12 12:31:55 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 12:31:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] A REAL Mazda for sale In-Reply-To: <4850.64.25.6.225.1184264805.squirrel@www.thicko.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070712120958.033c0c30@mailbag.com> <5f00d9910707121043v1769c051j2cfa7b7becff1a25@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0707121047l59508f38h5f687f565f9b13d9@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070712130617.01c1cf00@nosimport.com> <4850.64.25.6.225.1184264805.squirrel@www.thicko.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707121131x54650d24g56a8f31f9ecebd77@mail.gmail.com> Oh, go ahead and set Larry off. You are talking about Leisure Suit Larry, right? He said the guy was asking a couple hundred. Translation: $200 or so. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jul 12 12:33:52 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 12:33:52 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] A REAL Mazda for sale In-Reply-To: <00bc01c7c4b2$994cf9d0$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070712120958.033c0c30@mailbag.com> <5f00d9910707121043v1769c051j2cfa7b7becff1a25@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0707121047l59508f38h5f687f565f9b13d9@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070712130617.01c1cf00@nosimport.com> <4850.64.25.6.225.1184264805.squirrel@www.thicko.com> <00bc01c7c4b2$994cf9d0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707121133y1777efa2j96e776278e09b389@mail.gmail.com> On 7/12/07, Larry Daniels wrote: > Hey, keep me outta this!! > Oh, that Larry. Yeah, don't poke a grumpy bear with a stick. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jul 12 12:34:15 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:34:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A REAL Mazda for sale References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070712120958.033c0c30@mailbag.com><5f00d9910707121043v1769c051j2cfa7b7becff1a25@mail.gmail.com><8a336b9d0707121047l59508f38h5f687f565f9b13d9@mail.gmail.com><7.0.1.0.2.20070712130617.01c1cf00@nosimport.com><4850.64.25.6.225.1184264805.squirrel@www.thicko.com> <00bc01c7c4b2$994cf9d0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <004601c7c4b3$40ada3a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> From: "Larry Daniels" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A REAL Mazda for sale > Hey, keep me outta this!! I am sure they meant the real Larry ;-) From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jul 12 12:44:23 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:44:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A REAL Mazda for sale In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707121133y1777efa2j96e776278e09b389@mail.gmail.co m> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070712120958.033c0c30@mailbag.com> <5f00d9910707121043v1769c051j2cfa7b7becff1a25@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0707121047l59508f38h5f687f565f9b13d9@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070712130617.01c1cf00@nosimport.com> <4850.64.25.6.225.1184264805.squirrel@www.thicko.com> <00bc01c7c4b2$994cf9d0$6401a8c0@Larry> <5f00d9910707121133y1777efa2j96e776278e09b389@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070712134307.0377d658@nosimport.com> At 01:33 PM 7/12/2007, you wrote: > Yeah, don't poke a grumpy bear with a stick. > Seems we already did "Drivers of the world's best selling roadster might consider our Mazdas to be real. Mazda does not necessarily mean Wankel." ;-) From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jul 12 12:55:56 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:55:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Adios USGP In-Reply-To: <002f01c7c4a3$dc48a450$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <002f01c7c4a3$dc48a450$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <43840a7e0707121155i77ea7d96vfc8fe0e2203e34b6@mail.gmail.com> Yeah. Don't think it was unexpected. "Lord" George pretty much treated Bernie and the FIA gang like they should be honored to be allowed to come to Indy. You don't do that to one of the largest international corporations and get away with it. Know the difference between God and Tony George? God doesn't think he's Tony George. Cheers!! Jim On 7/12/07, Larry Daniels wrote: > http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070712/FREE/70712004/150 > 8/newsletter02 > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Jul 12 13:07:13 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:07:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Leaf springs Message-ID: <205cef430707121207r78915b97r3ff9a80d190e22d2@mail.gmail.com> Frank & List, What type of leaf springs or additional components do I order to jack up the rear of my MKII Sprite so my tires on my mags (American Racing Libre wheels) do not rub on the square fenders? With a 155 tire I only have a 1/2 clearance can't I weld up or add to the leaf springs or buy something to get the rear higher? Don't they have something used on the racing Sprites for this? Lin From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Thu Jul 12 13:10:51 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:10:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] She may not win a beauty pagent but my LBC was loud and fun today : ) In-Reply-To: <205cef430707121126l43e294b0v3b4d065b2ef79dc6@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430707102113s1f67398h55bc7690f72864c8@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0707121059q429ccb47y7dc5300d783b93bd@mail.gmail.com> <205cef430707121126l43e294b0v3b4d065b2ef79dc6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0707121210w360aa213s18ad66aeeb7059b4@mail.gmail.com> The Post Hippies think its cool to hesh out their Rabbits, Beetles, and busses by making them purposely rust, shooting holes in the doors, etc. http://www.terovirta.com/images/2003_Spa_128.jpg so your faded pink spridget is hot. Ask Dave Lieb, he and his car are accidentally cool, he can tell you all about it. On 7/12/07, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > What is Faux Patina VW, I'm still looking for my VW bus as we speak I > would rather buy a Barndoor (50's) or 60-67 but there's a 79 T2 on eBay that > a woman owns and can't drive a stick (poor thing) so I may win it at a very > reasonable price to just get started in that counter culture of VDubs : ) > Lin > > On 7/12/07, Flash. wrote: > > > Faux Patina is very popular in the VW circles. You should fit right in > > with > > the "kids" (Children of Hippies, Inc. :p) > > > > > > > > > > On 7/10/07, Linda Grunthaner < grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > List, > > > I took my LBC out today and she was so loud and fun I could hardly > > control > > > myself. I'm sure the people who heard her coming around the corner > > were > > > expecting to see a big muscle car and were shocked to see this little > > > rusty > > > faded pink car. Yes yes I drover her like I stole her especially so > > they > > > could not see all the rust. The little narrow exhaust from the > > original > > > 948 > > > on my 1275 slaps out loud pops as i down shift. I truly feel like the > > gal > > > on > > > the book (see the last pic on my website). > > > Just drive-em, > > > Lin > > > > > > www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > http://btdtracing.com > > 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata > > 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jul 12 13:12:34 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:12:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] She may not win a beauty pagent but my LBC was loud and fun today : ) References: <205cef430707102113s1f67398h55bc7690f72864c8@mail.gmail.com><8a336b9d0707121059q429ccb47y7dc5300d783b93bd@mail.gmail.com><205cef430707121126l43e294b0v3b4d065b2ef79dc6@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0707121210w360aa213s18ad66aeeb7059b4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <006001c7c4b8$9b33fa90$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Ask Dave Lieb, he and his car are accidentally cool, he can tell you all > about it. Barefoot is no accident ;-) From grday at btinternet.com Thu Jul 12 13:27:41 2007 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:27:41 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Leaf springs References: <205cef430707121207r78915b97r3ff9a80d190e22d2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00a301c7c4ba$b7050870$08c98556@tairswork> One of the problems if you have a larger diameter tyre is you need to raise the body which means you raise the centre of mass, tilt the front suspension angles forwards at the top, have to get a longer ebrake (handbrake) cable and can have problems with the rear damper set-up. Of course it depends how much you raise the body. Or, you can flare your wings and elongate the inner wing. As a last resort you could always fit longer swinging shackles at the rear of the springs. Yer pays yer money and takes yer choice.... usually pays yer money! GRD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner" To: "Spridget List" Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 8:07 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Leaf springs > Frank & List, > What type of leaf springs or additional components do I order to jack up > the > rear of my MKII Sprite so my tires on my mags (American Racing Libre > wheels) > do not rub on the square fenders? With a 155 tire I only have a 1/2 > clearance can't I weld up or add to the leaf springs or buy something to > get > the rear higher? Don't they have something used on the racing Sprites for > this? > Lin > _______________________________________________ > grday at btinternet.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From jdinnis at gmail.com Thu Jul 12 13:30:08 2007 From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:30:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Adios USGP In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0707121155i77ea7d96vfc8fe0e2203e34b6@mail.gmail.com> References: <002f01c7c4a3$dc48a450$6401a8c0@Larry> <43840a7e0707121155i77ea7d96vfc8fe0e2203e34b6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes, he held them in such contempt that the COMPLETELY remodeled the IMS to the tune of several hundred million dollars in renovations EXCLUSIVELY for the benefit of F1 all out of the IMS own pocket, and was rewarded with a pathetic showing of fans and participants for a race series that has fewer passes than the average cockroach race. Good Riddance in my opinion. IMS still has the most competitive racing series in the world. The IRL has more lead changes in one race than an entire season of some other series! On 7/12/07, Jim Johnson wrote: > Yeah. Don't think it was unexpected. "Lord" George pretty much > treated Bernie and the FIA gang like they should be honored to be > allowed to come to Indy. You don't do that to one of the largest > international corporations and get away with it. > > Know the difference between God and Tony George? God doesn't think > he's Tony George. > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On 7/12/07, Larry Daniels wrote: > > http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070712/FREE/70712004/150 > > 8/newsletter02 > > _______________________________________________ > > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > > > Edit your replies > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > > -- > The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to > fill the world with fools. > -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) > _______________________________________________ > jdinnis at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- ================================= = Never offend people with style when you = = can offend with substance --- Sam Brown = ================================= From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Thu Jul 12 13:31:51 2007 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:31:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Leaf springs Message-ID: <8576.1184268711@gerardsgarage.com> Linda, The last thing you want to dois raise the center of gravity. The 'trick' is to use a large 'dowel' (something between a closet rod and a basball bat) to genty nudge or roll the fender lip out away from the tire. This is done by havingthe wheel off the ground and using the tire to roll the bat between the tire and fender. to gain some clearance. Done properly, it is effective and imperceptable... unless you have a lot of bondo in the wheel arch...'-) YMMV. Gerard Message: 12 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:07:13 -0400 From: "Linda Grunthaner" Subject: [Spridgets] Leaf springs To: "Spridget List" Message-ID: <205cef430707121207r78915b97r3ff9a80d190e22d2 at mai l.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Frank & List, What type of leaf springs or additional components do I order to jack up the rear of my MKII Sprite so my tires on my mags (American Racing Libre wheels) do not rub on the square fenders? With a 155 tire I only have a 1/2 clearance can't I weld up or add to the leaf springs or buy something to get the rear higher? Don't they have something used on the racing Sprites for this? Lin From kevin at valentinephoto.net Thu Jul 12 14:30:39 2007 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 16:30:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] a midget spotted? In-Reply-To: <15142429.1184252869526.JavaMail.root@elwamui-wigeon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <15142429.1184252869526.JavaMail.root@elwamui-wigeon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Chuck, I pass there often. The Midget is always there. It doesn't seem to move. The Corvair seems to move around a bit, sometimes it's not there.... I don't know who the owner is. Kevin On Jul 12, 2007, at 11:07 AM, charles christ wrote: > > anyone know who owns the midget and blue early corvair convertible > on rte 895 near rte 61 in eastern pa.? kevin , i know you are > familiar with the area since we passed each other in that silly rte > 895 drainage culvert installation stuff last year. \i pass these > cars frequently and am not very comfortable just pulling up the > long driveway and pounding on their door. > > > chuck. From type79 at ix.netcom.com Thu Jul 12 14:40:01 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 16:40:01 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [Spridgets] Adios USGP Message-ID: <4381219.1184272802040.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Jim, I don't particularly care for Tony George, but that's not accurate. Indy, as a facility, went to great expense to make the necessary and required improvements to accomodate F1. What they did not do, was help promote the sport in a country, the U.S., which has only a small fan base compared to the rest of the world. Of course, Ecclestone, the FIA, and the teams themselves, in particular their factory partners, do nothing to promote the sport in the U.S. either. But that's a whole subject in itself. As a country, The U.S. has very little understanding of Formula One. And at the moment, the U.S. has very little interest in open wheel racing of any sort. (Thank you Tony) As a massive F1 fan, I'm not necessarilly sad to see Indy off the calendar. (The road course was but a glorified autocross course, IMO.) I attended 4 times and the facility is certainly something to behold. But I think there should be a USGP somewhere, but NOT Las Vegas. As for North American, at least there is always Montreal. Actually, I shouldn't say "at least", as Montreal is a much more exciting track than Indy. jay fishbein wallingford, ct home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ -----Original Message----- >From: Jim Johnson >Sent: Jul 12, 2007 2:55 PM >To: Larry Daniels >Cc: Spridgets List >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Adios USGP > >Yeah. Don't think it was unexpected. "Lord" George pretty much >treated Bernie and the FIA gang like they should be honored to be >allowed to come to Indy. You don't do that to one of the largest >international corporations and get away with it. > >Know the difference between God and Tony George? God doesn't think >he's Tony George. From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Jul 12 15:01:19 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (W, Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 16:01:19 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Adios USGP In-Reply-To: <4381219.1184272802040.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink. net> References: <4381219.1184272802040.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1876.71.16.30.226.1184274079.squirrel@www.thicko.com> I was talking to George, the prez of Road America. I think Ecclestone wants something like $15mil up front just to start talking about a race at a venue. > Jim, > > I don't particularly care for Tony George, but that's not accurate. > > Indy, as a facility, went to great expense to make the necessary and > required improvements to accomodate F1. > > What they did not do, was help promote the sport in a country, the U.S., > which has only a small fan base compared to the rest of the world. Of > course, Ecclestone, the FIA, and the teams themselves, in particular their > factory partners, do nothing to promote the sport in the U.S. either. But > that's a whole subject in itself. > > As a country, The U.S. has very little understanding of Formula One. And > at the moment, the U.S. has very little interest in open wheel racing of > any sort. (Thank you Tony) > > As a massive F1 fan, I'm not necessarilly sad to see Indy off the > calendar. (The road course was but a glorified autocross course, IMO.) I > attended 4 times and the facility is certainly something to behold. But I > think there should be a USGP somewhere, but NOT Las Vegas. > > As for North American, at least there is always Montreal. Actually, I > shouldn't say "at least", as Montreal is a much more exciting track than > Indy. > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Jul 12 15:21:38 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:21:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] This computer is driving me crazy! Message-ID: <380-220077412212138968@earthlink.net> Sorry, folks, but I am STILL having massive problems with my Netscape browser, Earthlink e-mail, computer, and DSL modem. And I am trying to get both Thunderbird and Firefox onto my computer while at the same time keeping my Address Book and Bookmarks from the old systems. Complicating everything was trying to switch from DSL to Earthlink's WiFi that they have made available through a deal with the City of Anaheim! The problem with that are the boneheads working for Earthlink somewhere on the Indian Sub-Continent who can't deal with issues and refuse to let me speak with a supervisor because they are an "senior account executive". The bottom line right now is that it would seem I have never received e-mail that has been sent. Or, it has somehow been mysteriously "delayed". One e-mail from a friend in England was dated "received" by my computer on July 4, but was never visible on the screen until this morning, and another from Ron Soave dated July 10 just appeared!!!! It also seems that a lot of e-mail I have sent has never been received. And some that was received has not had any attachments. Of the two, I don't know which is worse! Further complicating things have been a number of computer crashes. I am quite sure that my Dad up in heaven is getting his laughs out of all my trouble. He hated computers and refused to get one!!! Those who have sent e-mail and have not heard from me, please bear with me while I try to straighten out this mess. Buster Evans From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 12 15:47:01 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 16:47:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] This computer is driving me crazy! References: <380-220077412212138968@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <00f601c7c4ce$2f13ead0$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Bruce Evans" To: ; ; Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 4:21 PM Subject: [Spridgets] This computer is driving me crazy! Sorry, folks, but I am STILL having massive problems with my Netscape browser, Earthlink e-mail, computer, and DSL modem. And I am trying to get both Thunderbird and Firefox onto my computer while at the same time keeping my Address Book and Bookmarks from the old systems. Complicating everything was trying to switch from DSL to Earthlink's WiFi that they have made available through a deal with the City of Anaheim! The problem with that are the boneheads working for Earthlink somewhere on the Indian Sub-Continent who can't deal with issues and refuse to let me speak with a supervisor because they are an "senior account executive". The bottom line right now is that it would seem I have never received e-mail that has been sent. Or, it has somehow been mysteriously "delayed". One e-mail from a friend in England was dated "received" by my computer on July 4, but was never visible on the screen until this morning, and another from Ron Soave dated July 10 just appeared!!!! It also seems that a lot of e-mail I have sent has never been received. And some that was received has not had any attachments. Of the two, I don't know which is worse! Further complicating things have been a number of computer crashes. I am quite sure that my Dad up in heaven is getting his laughs out of all my trouble. He hated computers and refused to get one!!! Those who have sent e-mail and have not heard from me, please bear with me while I try to straighten out this mess. Buster Evans _______________________________________________ Buster, we didn't get this message. Could you send it again? Just messin' with ya, The computer gods. From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Jul 12 16:49:14 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:49:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] BusterCluster article Message-ID: <380-220077412224914109@earthlink.net> One of the e-mails that apparently did not get to everyone to whom it was sent was one that dealt with the "mug shots" and information that Theo Gillam needs for the BusterCluster article scheduled for the October issue. In it, I explained that he had not even received half of those who were at the BusterCluster. I would hope that those of you who have not sent one would do so quickly. It would be a shame not to have this feature included in the story, for it would truly give credit to those who made it such a mystical, magical weekend. Those who he has received a mug shot and information from include: . Paul Asgeirsson . Frank Clarici . Al Clemens . Robert Houston . Jim Johnson . Warren Pierce . Mike Rivers . Jim Rogers . Ron Soave If you have misplaced the information he needed, it is: . Name: . Location: . Occupation: . What I did: . How many miles I travelled: . How many OSHITs under my belt: . What cars I own: . Name: . Location: . Occupation: . What I did: . How many miles I travelled: . How many OSHITs under my belt: . What cars I own: If you have misplaced his e-mail address, it is: grot at toroidalcavity.fsnet.co.uk So get those mug shots in. Please! Buster Evans From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Jul 12 17:13:12 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 16:13:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: ] Lotus mailing list members rally to restore unwell fellow-lister's car] Message-ID: <4696B588.2010402@earthlink.net> Those of you who were at or enjoyed the BusterCluster from the sidelines will be able to identify with this e-mail I received from Jim Bauder, an old Navy buddy who was right in the midst of everything last year. I think everyone will agree that they were close to the BusterCluster, but still no brass ring (or cigar). Buster -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The link below takes you to an article describing a very heart warming story and very close to my heart. Last year I participated in a similar endeavor helping a bunch of sports car enthusiasts from all corners of the country, Florida to Arizona, Massachusetts to Oregon, all friends, mostly internet friends of Buster Evans, put his '60 Sprite back together. Enjoy! Jim Bauder -----Original Message----- From: Brian Jones Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 2:12 AM To: Triumph List Subject: [TR] Lotus mailing list members rally to restore unwell fellow-lister's car This is a great story of strangers - other than they share an email list on Lotus cars, coming together to restore someone's car who is/ was seriously ill. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/south_east/6292354.stm or http://tinyurl.com/2go33a From dmeadow at juno.com Thu Jul 12 18:04:25 2007 From: dmeadow at juno.com (dmeadow at juno.com) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:04:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Adios USGP Message-ID: <20070712.190702.884.2.dmeadow@juno.com> Yeah, God already knows he is Bernie Ecclestone. On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:55:56 -0500 "Jim Johnson" writes: > Yeah. Don't think it was unexpected. "Lord" George pretty much > treated Bernie and the FIA gang like they should be honored to be > allowed to come to Indy. You don't do that to one of the largest > international corporations and get away with it. > > Know the difference between God and Tony George? God doesn't think > he's Tony George. > > Cheers!! > Jim From refisk at chartermi.net Thu Jul 12 18:06:23 2007 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:06:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Adios USGP References: <4381219.1184272802040.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <02fc01c7c4e1$a68d43f0$6401a8c0@refisk> If you've seen one parade you've seen them all. :-) Rick > As a country, The U.S. has very little understanding of Formula > One......................... From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Thu Jul 12 18:23:01 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:23:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Adios USGP References: <20070712.190702.884.2.dmeadow@juno.com> Message-ID: <049601c7c4e3$f8f8e570$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> And for LONGER than God "was" God!!! Damned shame too. Or put another way, Why Do I Enjoy NASCAR (Bernie-less)?? From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Jul 12 18:25:34 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:25:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] She may not win a beauty pagent but my LBC was loud and fun today : ) In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0707121210w360aa213s18ad66aeeb7059b4@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430707102113s1f67398h55bc7690f72864c8@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0707121059q429ccb47y7dc5300d783b93bd@mail.gmail.com> <205cef430707121126l43e294b0v3b4d065b2ef79dc6@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0707121210w360aa213s18ad66aeeb7059b4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430707121725m4f5cbdf5o8f77e061946edc9@mail.gmail.com> Oh yea on the VW sites they refer them to Rat rods. Very cool. Lin On 7/12/07, Flash. wrote: > > The Post Hippies think its cool to hesh out their Rabbits, Beetles, and > busses by making them purposely rust, shooting holes in the doors, etc. > > http://www.terovirta.com/images/2003_Spa_128.jpg > > so your faded pink spridget is hot. > > Ask Dave Lieb, he and his car are accidentally cool, he can tell you all > about it. > > On 7/12/07, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > > > What is Faux Patina VW, I'm still looking for my VW bus as we speak I > > would rather buy a Barndoor (50's) or 60-67 but there's a 79 T2 on eBay > that > > a woman owns and can't drive a stick (poor thing) so I may win it at a > very > > reasonable price to just get started in that counter culture of VDubs : > ) > > Lin > > > > On 7/12/07, Flash. wrote: > > > > > Faux Patina is very popular in the VW circles. You should fit right > in > > > with > > > the "kids" (Children of Hippies, Inc. :p) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/10/07, Linda Grunthaner < grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > List, > > > > I took my LBC out today and she was so loud and fun I could hardly > > > control > > > > myself. I'm sure the people who heard her coming around the corner > > > were > > > > expecting to see a big muscle car and were shocked to see this > little > > > > rusty > > > > faded pink car. Yes yes I drover her like I stole her especially so > > > they > > > > could not see all the rust. The little narrow exhaust from the > > > original > > > > 948 > > > > on my 1275 slaps out loud pops as i down shift. I truly feel like > the > > > gal > > > > on > > > > the book (see the last pic on my website). > > > > Just drive-em, > > > > Lin > > > > > > > > www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > http://btdtracing.com > > > 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata > > > 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > -- > http://btdtracing.com > 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata > 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 > _______________________________________________ > grunthaner at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 12 18:24:39 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:24:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Adios USGP References: <20070712.190702.884.2.dmeadow@juno.com> <049601c7c4e3$f8f8e570$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <013101c7c4e4$348e7f50$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "63AHBJ7" <63AHBJ7 at comcast.net> Or put another way, Why Do I Enjoy NASCAR (Bernie-less)?? _______________________________________________ Not being a mental health professional, Ed, I have no idea why you enjoy NASCAR. LAD From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Thu Jul 12 18:53:55 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:53:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Adios USGP References: <20070712.190702.884.2.dmeadow@juno.com><049601c7c4e3$f8f8e570$6501a8c0@actualshop> <013101c7c4e4$348e7f50$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <054101c7c4e8$4c89bb20$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> Don't have to be Larry (although you NEED one!!! LOL), at least in NASCAR the teams ARE allowed to THINK and not just obey God Bernie's mandates. Keep in mind that the closest thing to a "on board computer" is a transponder. Not a $25K steering wheel and NO "shifter"!! Forget the rest of what both of us will conside "logical" and let's drop the subject. Everybody checked out the Bugeye FS on my site?? Anon From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jul 12 19:06:22 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:06:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Adios USGP References: <002f01c7c4a3$dc48a450$6401a8c0@Larry> <43840a7e0707121155i77ea7d96vfc8fe0e2203e34b6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00f701c7c4ea$07b9ffd0$0401a8c0@midget> Actually, Larry Daniels is one of the more sane members of this nuthouse. Sorta like being the tallest Midget... From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Thu Jul 12 19:14:34 2007 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:14:34 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... This computer is driving me crazy! Message-ID: <9715.1184289274@gerardsgarage.com> Buster, I recently switched over to ATT DSL (what a nightmare, even for me) Personally, I would suggest you get off the PC and get a MAC, but that's another rant for me... anyway One thing I learned from the supervisor that finally called me back from ATT is that you you can request "stateside assistance" This was after I complained bitterly about the frustration of trying to deal with someone who had a poor grasp of the English language as well as the the audio delay. That is when he revealed THAT little nugget to me. I don't know if it will work with your provider, but it's worth a try. Gerard On Thu Jul 12 14:21 , "Robert Bruce Evans" sent: Sorry, folks, but I am STILL having massive problems with my Netscape browser, Earthlink e-mail, computer, and DSL modem. And I am trying to get both Thunderbird and Firefox onto my computer while at the same time keeping my Address Book and Bookmarks from the old systems. Complicating everything was trying to switch from DSL to Earthlink's WiFi that they have made available through a deal with the City of Anaheim! The problem with that are the boneheads working for Earthlink somewhere on the Indian Sub-Continent who can't deal with issues and refuse to let me speak with a supervisor because they are an "senior account executive". The bottom line right now is that it would seem I have never received e-mail that has been sent. Or, it has somehow been mysteriously "delayed". One e-mail from a friend in England was dated "received" by my computer on July 4, but was never visible on the screen until this morning, and another from Ron Soave dated July 10 just appeared!!!! It also seems that a lot of e-mail I have sent has never been received. And some that was received has not had any attachments. Of the two, I don't know which is worse! Further complicating things have been a number of computer crashes. I am quite sure that my Dad up in heaven is getting his laughs out of all my trouble. He hated computers and refused to get one!!! Those who have sent e-mail and have not heard from me, please bear with me while I try to straighten out this mess. Buster Evans [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar If you must unsubscribe from the Bugeye Interest Group, please send an email to: bugeye-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com If you no longer want to receive emails, but wish to remain a member of the group, you may go to the website and change your subscription to "Web Only" and you will not receive any emails. Blocked image Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! 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Thanks in advance, Howard Collins Virginia Beach, Va. ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jul 12 20:25:11 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:25:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] British Invasion at Stowe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4696E287.5010401@comcast.net> Miniac7 at aol.com wrote: > For any of you who have attended this event in the past, do you have a > recommendation relative to overnight accommodations. Howard I have been there in the past, there is one main road thru town, everything is on that road and about 2 mi9les from the meet. There is a great British pub which I recommend for dinner. All the motels are up the hill. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From dwramsey at worldnet.att.net Fri Jul 13 00:05:38 2007 From: dwramsey at worldnet.att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 23:05:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Leaf springs In-Reply-To: <205cef430707121207r78915b97r3ff9a80d190e22d2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070713060603.DDF52187A0B@autox.team.net> The replacement springs the usual suspects sell will lift the rear of your 1/4 elliptical car a couple of inches. I bet somebody has a set in their junk pile for this very reason. Crash Frank & List, What type of leaf springs or additional components do I order to jack up the rear of my MKII Sprite so my tires on my mags (American Racing Libre wheels) do not rub on the square fenders? With a 155 tire I only have a 1/2 clearance can't I weld up or add to the leaf springs or buy something to get the rear higher? Don't they have something used on the racing Sprites for this? Lin From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jul 13 00:25:03 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 01:25:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Adios USGP In-Reply-To: <00f701c7c4ea$07b9ffd0$0401a8c0@midget> References: <002f01c7c4a3$dc48a450$6401a8c0@Larry> <43840a7e0707121155i77ea7d96vfc8fe0e2203e34b6@mail.gmail.com> <00f701c7c4ea$07b9ffd0$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <43840a7e0707122325k29c2c76u807f0ab83c887b66@mail.gmail.com> Hmmm... I see Jay is correct. Americans don't understand F-1. More's the pity. I spent too many years in Europe I suppose. It's kind of like Futbal. Americans are once again late to dinner. Cheers!! Jim From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jul 13 00:45:47 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 01:45:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] This computer is driving me crazy! In-Reply-To: <380-220077412212138968@earthlink.net> References: <380-220077412212138968@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0707122345lf8bcd12y60939e9588ec7aa7@mail.gmail.com> Buster, Look out your window to the east... You should see long and short smoke plumes. I can also do flashes with a mirror if required. I have found BOPLF extremely reliable. You know - Blanket Over Pine Log Fire - ... If necessary we go to S&TC (String & Tin Can) communication. ;-) Cheers!! Jim On 7/12/07, Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > Sorry, folks, but I am STILL having massive problems with my Netscape browser, Earthlink e-mail, computer, and DSL modem. And I am trying to get both Thunderbird and Firefox onto my computer while at the same time keeping my Address Book and Bookmarks from the old systems. Complicating everything was trying to switch from DSL to Earthlink's WiFi that they have made available through a deal with the City of Anaheim! The problem with that are the boneheads working for Earthlink somewhere on the Indian Sub-Continent who can't deal with issues and refuse to let me speak with a supervisor because they are an "senior account executive". > > The bottom line right now is that it would seem I have never received e-mail that has been sent. Or, it has somehow been mysteriously "delayed". One e-mail from a friend in England was dated "received" by my computer on July 4, but was never visible on the screen until this morning, and another from Ron Soave dated July 10 just appeared!!!! It also seems that a lot of e-mail I have sent has never been received. And some that was received has not had any attachments. Of the two, I don't know which is worse! > > Further complicating things have been a number of computer crashes. I am quite sure that my Dad up in heaven is getting his laughs out of all my trouble. He hated computers and refused to get one!!! > > Those who have sent e-mail and have not heard from me, please bear with me while I try to straighten out this mess. > > Buster Evans > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From dwramsey at worldnet.att.net Fri Jul 13 02:40:06 2007 From: dwramsey at worldnet.att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 01:40:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Adios USGP In-Reply-To: <013101c7c4e4$348e7f50$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <20070713084032.379AC1879CC@autox.team.net> I like to watch the NASCAR fans. No teeth, tank tops, tattoos, and a roll of fat hanging over their jeans, and then of course there are their husbands and kids. Great sport, go fast and turn left. Crash Not being a mental health professional, Ed, I have no idea why you enjoy NASCAR. LAD From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Fri Jul 13 06:32:09 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 05:32:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] This computer is driving me crazy! References: <380-220077412212138968@earthlink.net> <00f601c7c4ce$2f13ead0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <006801c7c549$d6530d00$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Buster, You're not the only one who gets answers way ahead of the questions! Me too. However, I'm sure things will go much better in this backwards world today as it is Friday the 13th. Watch out, Freddy!, here come the Yahoo groups! Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" To: ; ; ; Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] This computer is driving me crazy! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Bruce Evans" > To: ; ; > > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 4:21 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] This computer is driving me crazy! > > > Sorry, folks, but I am STILL having massive problems with my Netscape > browser, Earthlink e-mail, computer, and DSL modem. And I am trying to get > both Thunderbird and Firefox onto my computer while at the same time keeping > my Address Book and Bookmarks from the old systems. Complicating everything > was trying to switch from DSL to Earthlink's WiFi that they have made > available through a deal with the City of Anaheim! The problem with that > are the boneheads working for Earthlink somewhere on the Indian > Sub-Continent who can't deal with issues and refuse to let me speak with a > supervisor because they are an "senior account executive". > > The bottom line right now is that it would seem I have never received e-mail > that has been sent. Or, it has somehow been mysteriously "delayed". One > e-mail from a friend in England was dated "received" by my computer on July > 4, but was never visible on the screen until this morning, and another from > Ron Soave dated July 10 just appeared!!!! It also seems that a lot of > e-mail I have sent has never been received. And some that was received has > not had any attachments. Of the two, I don't know which is worse! > > Further complicating things have been a number of computer crashes. I am > quite sure that my Dad up in heaven is getting his laughs out of all my > trouble. He hated computers and refused to get one!!! > > Those who have sent e-mail and have not heard from me, please bear with me > while I try to straighten out this mess. > > Buster Evans > _______________________________________________ > > Buster, we didn't get this message. Could you send it again? > > > Just messin' with ya, > > The computer gods. > _______________________________________________ > pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jul 13 07:08:56 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 9:08:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] This computer is driving me crazy! Message-ID: <20070713130856.SMWY25465.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> I would guess that receiving email that was never sent would be even more confusing. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Bruce Evans" >It also seems that a lot of e-mail I have sent has never been > received. And some that was received has > not had any attachments. Of the two, I don't know which is worse! > > Buster Evans From bpazur at excel.net Fri Jul 13 07:30:18 2007 From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 08:30:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Leaf Springs Message-ID: <200707131330.l6DDUIIv029977@green.excel.net> David Ramsey wrote: The replacement springs the usual suspects sell will lift the rear of your 1/4 elliptical car a couple of inches. I bet somebody has a set in their junk pile for this very reason. Crash Crash - You are right - the springs I got from M0$$ did lift the rear end significantly - several people have commented on the appearance. Could this be why I have alway thought the car handling was squirrely? What can I do to correct this? Bud Pazur '60 Bugeye - Street Car - 1275cc - 'Mr. White' Race Spridget - 1275cc - 'SilverStreak' "The Buddha ... resides as comfortably in the gears of a ...transmission as he does in the petals of a flower." - Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance From dmg at bossig.com Fri Jul 13 08:11:04 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 07:11:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: This computer is driving me crazy! In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0707122345lf8bcd12y60939e9588ec7aa7@mail.gmail.com> References: <380-220077412212138968@earthlink.net>, <43840a7e0707122345lf8bcd12y60939e9588ec7aa7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46972588.20042.1C27D3@dmg.bossig.com> Or you can use the new updated version.... S&SC (String and Styrofoam Cup) ;^)) Like all "New updated" equipment it is liable to break under normal use!! On 13 Jul 2007 at 1:45, Jim Johnson wrote: >> If necessary we go to S&TC (String & Tin Can) communication. - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri Jul 13 09:27:05 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 08:27:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: This computer is driving me crazy! In-Reply-To: <46972588.20042.1C27D3@dmg.bossig.com> References: <380-220077412212138968@earthlink.net>, <43840a7e0707122345lf8bcd12y60939e9588ec7aa7@mail.gmail.com> <46972588.20042.1C27D3@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <469799C9.2040102@earthlink.net> >Dave G. wrote: "Or you can use the new updated version.... S&SC (String and Styrofoam Cup) ;^)) Like all "New updated" equipment it is liable to break under normal use!!" > Oh no you don't! I will never use one of them cups!! "New updated'? "Break under normal use"? Well, it MUST be made in China and therefore contains poison. It is a well-known Ultra Top Secret that I read on an Internet blog that the Chinese are going to conquer the world by poisoning it Honest!. They have discovered it is much easier and cheaper to put poison in and on everything they sell to the world rather than develop more nuclear missle subs. Buster From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jul 13 10:06:54 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 11:06:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: This computer is driving me crazy! In-Reply-To: <469799C9.2040102@earthlink.net> References: <380-220077412212138968@earthlink.net> <43840a7e0707122345lf8bcd12y60939e9588ec7aa7@mail.gmail.com> <46972588.20042.1C27D3@dmg.bossig.com> <469799C9.2040102@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0707130906m3bd9c862o5c912c6c4409ddc7@mail.gmail.com> On 7/13/07, b-evans at earthlink.net wrote: > It is a well-known Ultra Top Secret that I read on an > Internet blog that the Chinese are going to conquer the world by > poisoning it Honest!. They have discovered it is much easier and > cheaper to put poison in and on everything they sell to the world rather > than develop more nuclear missle subs. You just don't have enough to worry about. Here's another conspiracy you may have missed which should keep you shaking with fear over just *some* of the ways *they* are out to get us... (Face it - You'd be paranoid too if everyone was out to get you!) http://this-must-stop.com/ Cheers!! Jim -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jul 13 10:08:04 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 12:08:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: This computer is driving me crazy! Message-ID: <20070713160804.LGRQ875.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Speaking of poisoning in China: http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/07/12/floods-china.html Do you think those cats will make it into the food chain? > From: b-evans at earthlink.net > > >Dave G. wrote: "Or you can use the new updated version.... S&SC (String and Styrofoam Cup) ;^)) Like all "New updated" equipment it is liable to break under normal use!!" > > > Oh no you don't! I will never use one of them cups!! "New updated'? > "Break under normal use"? Well, it MUST be made in China and therefore > contains poison. It is a well-known Ultra Top Secret that I read on an > Internet blog that the Chinese are going to conquer the world by > poisoning it Honest!. They have discovered it is much easier and > cheaper to put poison in and on everything they sell to the world rather > than develop more nuclear missle subs. > > Buster From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jul 13 10:24:56 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 11:24:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: This computer is driving me crazy! In-Reply-To: <20070713160804.LGRQ875.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20070713160804.LGRQ875.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <43840a7e0707130924i18aa5203ldb2adabcb5ddee1a@mail.gmail.com> On 7/13/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > Speaking of poisoning in China: > http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/07/12/floods-china.html > Do you think those cats will make it into the food chain? After my youthful sojourn in Southeast Asia I can assure you that anything with fur can and will be eaten by humans. The wife is an anthropologist and did a study at one time on pre-historic native Americans which showed pretty conclusively that they regularly enjoyed the delicacy "Rat on a Stick" whilst sitting around the camfire at night... Cheers!! Jim -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jul 13 10:26:30 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 11:26:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: This computer is driving me crazy! In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0707130924i18aa5203ldb2adabcb5ddee1a@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070713160804.LGRQ875.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <43840a7e0707130924i18aa5203ldb2adabcb5ddee1a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0707130926s5727ae37pee5e50e258cd679d@mail.gmail.com> Ooops! That should be "campfire". Much easier to extinguish than a "camfire"!! Jim On 7/13/07, Jim Johnson wrote: > On 7/13/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > > Speaking of poisoning in China: > > http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/07/12/floods-china.html > > Do you think those cats will make it into the food chain? > > After my youthful sojourn in Southeast Asia I can assure you that > anything with fur can and will be eaten by humans. The wife is an > anthropologist and did a study at one time on pre-historic native > Americans which showed pretty conclusively that they regularly enjoyed > the delicacy "Rat on a Stick" whilst sitting around the camfire at > night... > > Cheers!! > Jim > -- > The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to > fill the world with fools. > -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri Jul 13 10:28:07 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:28:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: This computer is driving me crazy! In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0707130906m3bd9c862o5c912c6c4409ddc7@mail.gmail.com> References: <380-220077412212138968@earthlink.net> <43840a7e0707122345lf8bcd12y60939e9588ec7aa7@mail.gmail.com> <46972588.20042.1C27D3@dmg.bossig.com> <469799C9.2040102@earthlink.net> <43840a7e0707130906m3bd9c862o5c912c6c4409ddc7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4697A817.5000400@earthlink.net> Oh, I know, I know! It is so good to know that OTHERS know "they" are to get us! Who is "they"? I am sorry, but I do not know if you have the required level of security clearance! Now, thank you. We appreciate your call. If you speak Swahili, please press 1. If you are one of "them", please enter your code. Won't somebody help me? It is so difficult to type with tht sleeves of this white coat wrapped around me. Buster (I am told) Jim Johnson wrote: > On 7/13/07, b-evans at earthlink.net wrote: > >> It is a well-known Ultra Top Secret that I read on an >> Internet blog that the Chinese are going to conquer the world by >> poisoning it Honest!. They have discovered it is much easier and >> cheaper to put poison in and on everything they sell to the world rather >> than develop more nuclear missle subs. > > > You just don't have enough to worry about. Here's another conspiracy > you may have missed which should keep you shaking with fear over just > *some* of the ways *they* are out to get us... (Face it - You'd be > paranoid too if everyone was out to get you!) > > http://this-must-stop.com/ > > Cheers!! > Jim From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri Jul 13 10:31:06 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:31:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: This computer is driving me crazy! In-Reply-To: <20070713160804.LGRQ875.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20070713160804.LGRQ875.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <4697A8CA.8060608@earthlink.net> They call them folks "ranchers"! They supply some of the finest Chinese restaurants around the world. Robert Duquette wrote: >Speaking of poisoning in China: >http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/07/12/floods-china.html >Do you think those cats will make it into the food chain? From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Fri Jul 13 10:43:31 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 11:43:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: This computer is driving me crazy! References: <20070713160804.LGRQ875.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca><43840a7e0707130924i18aa5203ldb2adabcb5ddee1a@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0707130926s5727ae37pee5e50e258cd679d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <040701c7c56c$f28fd200$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> WAY cheaper too, Jim!!! From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jul 13 10:59:31 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 12:59:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: This computer is driving me crazy! Message-ID: <20070713165931.UBHF25465.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> I'll try not to think of that. My mind quickly went to microwaves and then to those frozen dishes that you can microwave. I'm going to stop thinking on this now. I just ate. > From: "Jim Johnson" > > > After my youthful sojourn in Southeast Asia I can assure you that > anything with fur can and will be eaten by humans. The wife is an > anthropologist and did a study at one time on pre-historic native > Americans which showed pretty conclusively that they regularly enjoyed > the delicacy "Rat on a Stick" whilst sitting around the camfire at > night... > > Cheers!! > Jim > -- > The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to > fill the world with fools. > -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Jul 13 11:29:01 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:29:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Lotus mailing list members rally to restore unwell fellow-lister's car] In-Reply-To: <4696B588.2010402@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <419751.54001.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- b-evans at earthlink.net wrote: > Those of you who were at or enjoyed the > BusterCluster from the sidelines > will be able to identify with this e-mail I received > http://tinyurl.com/2go33a I had that EXACT car. After 2 years of $48 oil filters, $1900 radiators, and $600 a/c hoses, I couldn't convince my friends to set it on fire for me (the cat converter later did it all by itself, thankfully). Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Fri Jul 13 11:57:53 2007 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:57:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: This computer is driving me crazy! Message-ID: <6842690.1184349473258.JavaMail.root@wmvirt55> The wife is an anthropologist and did a study at one time on pre-historic native Americans which showed pretty conclusively that they regularly enjoyed the delicacy "Rat on a Stick" whilst sitting around the camfire at night... A couple of years ago there was an article in our local paper about a conveniece store out west that was shut down by the FDA because it was selling deep fried rat-on-a-stick to its many ethnic customers! I wondered if they had a little machine like the hot dog thing to keep them warm... Kent 1960 Bugeye 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen From smarc at smarc.net Fri Jul 13 13:23:08 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:23:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] fuel pump connections Message-ID: <4697D11C.2070102@smarc.net> I'm getting closer to finishing (well, getting running - these things are never finished) my midget project. I'm going to have to install a new SU fuel pump. A DPO replaced it with an aftermarket pump of some sort along with the weber that I pulled off the car. Does the midget have the same banjo fittings to the fuel pump as an MGB? If so, where can I get some replacement fittings on the cheap? -- Marc From pdx.pete at verizon.net Fri Jul 13 13:25:01 2007 From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (pdxpete) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 12:25:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Leaf Springs References: <200707131330.l6DDUIIv029977@green.excel.net> Message-ID: <001001c7c583$840ef970$760b6f47@DBKF4T81> Hi Bud, Colin posted this last December: Assuming you have 15-leaf springs his post might be of interest to you. "Take your new 15 leaf springs, remove the bolt that holds them together, take the top three leaves and stick them on the bottom, put the bolt back, put the spring pack back in the car. What do you now have? A spring pack the same overall height as before, with the main leaf higher (ie: the car lower) by the thickness of three spring leaves, and springs softer cos you effectively took three leaves out of action. Car's too high or too low? Alter the number of leaves that you swap from top to bottom." avagoodday Colin www.SpriteParts.cvom.au > David Ramsey wrote: > > The replacement springs the usual suspects sell will lift the rear of your > 1/4 elliptical car a couple of inches. I bet somebody has a set in their > junk pile for this very reason. > Crash > > > Crash - > > You are right - the springs I got from M0$$ did lift the rear end > significantly - several people have commented on the appearance. Could > this > be why I have alway thought the car handling was squirrely? What can I do > to > correct this? > > > > Bud Pazur From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Fri Jul 13 14:57:05 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:57:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: This computer is driving me crazy! References: <6842690.1184349473258.JavaMail.root@wmvirt55> Message-ID: <001101c7c590$5ea9b050$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> In a survival situation, meat is meat. The strength of a cultural taboo is inversly proportional to the degree of hunger. In a particularly nasty moment once, I actually ate okra. Anyone remember the book/movie "King Rat"? Glen (who will be eating raw fish, shrimp heads, eel and fish eggs tonight) From dmg at bossig.com Fri Jul 13 15:05:58 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 14:05:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: This computer is driving me crazy! In-Reply-To: <001101c7c590$5ea9b050$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <6842690.1184349473258.JavaMail.root@wmvirt55>, <001101c7c590$5ea9b050$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <469786C6.31452.7B73C2@dmg.bossig.com> I had that last night!! Plus crunchy crab.. Yum, Yum! On 13 Jul 2007 at 13:57, Glen Byrns wrote: >> (who will be eating raw fish, shrimp heads, eel and fish eggs tonight) - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Fri Jul 13 15:26:23 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 16:26:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: This computer is driving me crazy! In-Reply-To: <001101c7c590$5ea9b050$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <6842690.1184349473258.JavaMail.root@wmvirt55> <001101c7c590$5ea9b050$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: .. and that is why it's risky to eat at Wendy's.. ;-) Lester On Jul 13, 2007, at 3:57 PM, Glen Byrns wrote: snip > > Glen > > (who will be eating raw fish, shrimp heads, eel and fish eggs tonight) From Miniac7 at aol.com Fri Jul 13 17:07:27 2007 From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:07:27 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] British Invasion at Stowe Message-ID: Thanks Frank...guess I'll just do a pub crawl trying to scout out a hotel to crash in. Anyone else from the list going to Stowe this year? If so, first beer is on me. Howard Collins Virginia Beach, Va. ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri Jul 13 17:10:04 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 16:10:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: This computer is driving me crazy! In-Reply-To: <469786C6.31452.7B73C2@dmg.bossig.com> References: <6842690.1184349473258.JavaMail.root@wmvirt55>, <001101c7c590$5ea9b050$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <469786C6.31452.7B73C2@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <4698064C.6090406@earthlink.net> > <>Dave G. wrote: "I had that last night!! Plus crunchy crab.. Yum, Yum!" > Glen Byrns wrote: "who will be eating raw fish, shrimp heads, eel and > fish eggs tonight Man, you two must be crazy as loons! Haven't you looked at that stuff under a high powered miscroscope? And if that ain't 'nuff, remember that the Chinese have now been caught putting a tpxoc chemical in the the food fed to their farmed sea food products that makes 'em grow bigger and faster, but can kill people. These products were made for export and local consumption. You might have noticed that after a lot of Chinese died, the head of the country's food and drug agency was topped (killed) for taking bribes. Go ahead and eat that stuff, but make sure you have all of your affairs in order first. Buster From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Fri Jul 13 17:28:53 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:28:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: This computer is driving me crazy! References: <6842690.1184349473258.JavaMail.root@wmvirt55>, <001101c7c590$5ea9b050$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu><469786C6.31452.7B73C2@dmg.bossig.com> <4698064C.6090406@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <00e601c7c5a5$93804040$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> Yeah Buster, GOTTA make sure the girl friends ARE taken care of!!!! RD From wsthompson at thicko.com Fri Jul 13 17:58:55 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:58:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] homosaywhat? Message-ID: <002c01c7c5a9$c708dc20$551a9460$@com> Ebay Item number: 190131115524 Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Jul 13 17:59:08 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:59:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Fuel Pump Test Message-ID: <205cef430707131659k220eaf2bvf32a271749f37004@mail.gmail.com> Frank & List, How do I test that the electric fuel pump is DOA other than the fact that it no longer makes a sound? My new pump will be in tomorrow but it would be cool to know how to test the old one, would I read resistance with my ohm meter after I remove the old one? Thanks Lin From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Jul 13 18:28:41 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 20:28:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC ....Lost In Space Robot the B9 is now available in full scale Message-ID: <205cef430707131728s15631081mea9199268330a4b0@mail.gmail.com> List, Check out this site & you tube video of the full size B9 Robot from Lost In Space TV show. This company builds & sell them for only 24K lets see how many Spridgets are equivalent to 24K? Enjoy, Linda http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VibCEXarHbg http://www.lostinspacerobot.com/index.html From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Jul 13 18:45:43 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 20:45:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Leaf Springs In-Reply-To: <001001c7c583$840ef970$760b6f47@DBKF4T81> References: <200707131330.l6DDUIIv029977@green.excel.net> <001001c7c583$840ef970$760b6f47@DBKF4T81> Message-ID: <205cef430707131745g5d0ec572n9291455c104f20d3@mail.gmail.com> The article is a little confusing are you saying by switching the top 3 leaves to the bottom will bring the rear up or down? Also if it does go up with the rear with this method will I loose stability in the rear? I want to bring up the rear a few inches. Thanks Linda 62 California Sprite "Pinky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner On 7/13/07, pdxpete wrote: > > Hi Bud, > > Colin posted this last December: Assuming you have 15-leaf springs his > post > might be of interest to you. > > "Take your new 15 leaf springs, remove the bolt that holds them together, > take the top three leaves and stick them on the bottom, put the bolt back, > put the spring pack back in the car. > > What do you now have? A spring pack the same overall height as before, > with > the main leaf higher (ie: the car lower) by the thickness of three spring > leaves, and springs softer cos you effectively took three leaves out of > action. > > Car's too high or too low? Alter the number of leaves that you swap from > top > to bottom." > > avagoodday > Colin > www.SpriteParts.cvom.au > > > > > David Ramsey wrote: > > > > The replacement springs the usual suspects sell will lift the rear of > your > > 1/4 elliptical car a couple of inches. I bet somebody has a set in > their > > junk pile for this very reason. > > Crash > > > > > > Crash - > > > > You are right - the springs I got from M0$$ did lift the rear end > > significantly - several people have commented on the appearance. Could > > this > > be why I have alway thought the car handling was squirrely? What can I > do > > to > > correct this? > > > > > > > > Bud Pazur > _______________________________________________ > grunthaner at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Fri Jul 13 19:14:04 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 20:14:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Leaf Springs References: <200707131330.l6DDUIIv029977@green.excel.net><001001c7c583$840ef970$760b6f47@DBKF4T81> <205cef430707131745g5d0ec572n9291455c104f20d3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <018201c7c5b4$45e2b8e0$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> New springs from me "almost" guaranteed, Linda!! ed From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Jul 13 19:18:55 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 21:18:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] This computer is driving me crazy! In-Reply-To: <380-220077412212138968@earthlink.net> References: <380-220077412212138968@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <205cef430707131818i1780c200if8e8c7bbac483c19@mail.gmail.com> Buster, Some lister's may laugh but if you can swing the money you may want to switch to a Macintosh computer. I maintain 2 computer labs both Macintosh & PC I find Mac's are so easy to repair because all the parts are Mac. The very worse case scenario of a Mac is to save your files to a DVD or CD and wipe the drive with the system software included. Because the Mac has only Mac component parts you don't have to try and figure out what parts are in the computer and then track down software to load because the CD knows what you have and will install all that you need. Mac make a very small computer that is called the Mac Mini sells for $600. new just plug it into your existing monitor and you will be up and running as soon as you turn it on. Hang in there. Linda On 7/12/07, Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > > Sorry, folks, but I am STILL having massive problems with my Netscape > browser, Earthlink e-mail, computer, and DSL modem. And I am trying to get > both Thunderbird and Firefox onto my computer while at the same time keeping > my Address Book and Bookmarks from the old systems. Complicating everything > was trying to switch from DSL to Earthlink's WiFi that they have made > available through a deal with the City of Anaheim! The problem with that > are the boneheads working for Earthlink somewhere on the Indian > Sub-Continent who can't deal with issues and refuse to let me speak with a > supervisor because they are an "senior account executive". > > The bottom line right now is that it would seem I have never received > e-mail that has been sent. Or, it has somehow been mysteriously > "delayed". One e-mail from a friend in England was dated "received" by my > computer on July 4, but was never visible on the screen until this morning, > and another from Ron Soave dated July 10 just appeared!!!! It also seems > that a lot of e-mail I have sent has never been received. And some that was > received has not had any attachments. Of the two, I don't know which is > worse! > > Further complicating things have been a number of computer crashes. I am > quite sure that my Dad up in heaven is getting his laughs out of all my > trouble. He hated computers and refused to get one!!! > > Those who have sent e-mail and have not heard from me, please bear with me > while I try to straighten out this mess. > > Buster Evans > _______________________________________________ > grunthaner at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Jul 13 19:20:45 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 21:20:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Leaf Springs In-Reply-To: <018201c7c5b4$45e2b8e0$6501a8c0@actualshop> References: <200707131330.l6DDUIIv029977@green.excel.net> <001001c7c583$840ef970$760b6f47@DBKF4T81> <205cef430707131745g5d0ec572n9291455c104f20d3@mail.gmail.com> <018201c7c5b4$45e2b8e0$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <205cef430707131820s41feb793j94a6283ddc3c879@mail.gmail.com> Ed, What kind of springs are you selling? Lin On 7/13/07, 63AHBJ7 <63ahbj7 at gmail.com> wrote: > > <> > > New springs from me "almost" guaranteed, Linda!! > > ed > _______________________________________________ > grunthaner at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From shelden3 at pldi.net Fri Jul 13 20:17:46 2007 From: shelden3 at pldi.net (Charlie Shelden) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 21:17:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] fuel flow problem solved Message-ID: <003601c7c5bd$2b4dfa90$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> We have solved the fuel flow problem in my father inlaws 72 Midget. The filter he put inline to the pump was about a 1/4 full of red gunk. Rust is what I say. He cleaned it with the eastwood kit but I don't know how well, nor if he got the top of the tank. So he is going to find a someone to vat and coat it or look for a new one. Thanks for the info on the amount flow to all those that answered. Charlie 59 Sprite OKC,OK -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1774 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Jul 13 20:45:44 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 22:45:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] How to blow up a VW Message-ID: <469838D8.4040509@comcast.net> My son and his buddys are swapping engines in a Jetta tomorrow so tonight is "Lets drain the oil and see how long it takes to blow up night". After 20 minutes of it running perfect, they dumped a bottle of beer in the crankcase. If that wasn't enough they put a qt of paint in it. Now it smells like a just painted car out of the tail pipe. It ran perfect with all of the above in it for 15 minutes so they stopped over to get a cup of glass beads from my blast cabinet. Well it knocks a bit on start up and they took off in first gear bouncing the rev limiter. Twice around the block and they stopped to grab a handfull of stones and put then down the oil fill. That was 10:15, it's 10:45 and they are still driving around the neighborhood. It doesn't smoke, I guess beer doesn't burn. But it still smells like paint when it goes by. If that was me, and I was 2 qts low, I would have blown the engine in 30 seconds. These guys are trying and it's been about an hour. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Jul 13 20:51:43 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:51:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] How to blow up a VW In-Reply-To: <469838D8.4040509@comcast.net> Message-ID: <302715.57151.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Frank Clarici wrote: > After 20 minutes of it running perfect, they dumped > a bottle of beer in > the crankcase. If it was Guinness, it's actually made by Mobil 1 now and contains many of the same ingredients, so it won't break until 11:30 or so. Ron 0 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Jul 13 20:51:53 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 22:51:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] How to blow up a VW (update) In-Reply-To: <469838D8.4040509@comcast.net> References: <469838D8.4040509@comcast.net> Message-ID: <46983A49.30405@comcast.net> It's knocking now, I just heard them drive by. But like the energizer bunny, it's still going. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Fri Jul 13 21:00:58 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 22:00:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] How to blow up a VW References: <302715.57151.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00d301c7c5c3$3492d0c0$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> CDT or EDT time, Ron?? Enquiring min................ Anon From nory1 at adelphia.net Fri Jul 13 21:28:39 2007 From: nory1 at adelphia.net (Nory) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 23:28:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] This computer is driving me crazy! In-Reply-To: <205cef430707131818i1780c200if8e8c7bbac483c19@mail.gmail.com> References: <380-220077412212138968@earthlink.net> <205cef430707131818i1780c200if8e8c7bbac483c19@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I retired my 9-year-old iMac in January after getting a new iMac for Christmas. I thought the old one was great, but this new one is incredible! You know what they say ---- Once you go Mac, you never go back. On Jul 13, 2007, at 9:18 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > switch to a Macintosh computer. From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jul 13 22:02:47 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 22:02:47 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] How to blow up a VW In-Reply-To: <469838D8.4040509@comcast.net> References: <469838D8.4040509@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707132102y115818e9t1ce095ecc6acaf7e@mail.gmail.com> Put sugar in the injector rail. From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jul 13 22:04:12 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 22:04:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] How to blow up a VW (update) In-Reply-To: <46983A49.30405@comcast.net> References: <469838D8.4040509@comcast.net> <46983A49.30405@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707132104t49ce116cif8efa70323fc215c@mail.gmail.com> Drain the water and put sugar in the fuel system. Any way to cause ping? Advance the timing a lot. From hal at katemuir.com Sat Jul 14 01:40:13 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:40:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: This computer is driving me crazy! In-Reply-To: <001101c7c590$5ea9b050$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: Glen wrote: "In a particularly nasty moment once, I actually ate okra." In our youth my brother and I once planted about 100 square feet of okra. Most of it rotted on the plant! However, I have some good friends from the South who prepare an eminently edible okra. Don't remember just how it's done but it is good. There is some secret to cooking okra without making it slimey: unless you grew up in the South you do not know that secret. Hal From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Sat Jul 14 06:04:34 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 07:04:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] How to blow up a VW In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707132102y115818e9t1ce095ecc6acaf7e@mail.gmail.com> References: <469838D8.4040509@comcast.net> <5f00d9910707132102y115818e9t1ce095ecc6acaf7e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0707140504j10a01663xdf8711854e4bef3d@mail.gmail.com> i heard that doesnt really work. Did you try Chinese Motor Oil, Frank? On 7/13/07, derf wrote: > Put sugar in the injector rail. > _______________________________________________ > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jul 14 09:09:23 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 09:09:23 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] How to blow up a VW In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0707140504j10a01663xdf8711854e4bef3d@mail.gmail.com> References: <469838D8.4040509@comcast.net> <5f00d9910707132102y115818e9t1ce095ecc6acaf7e@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0707140504j10a01663xdf8711854e4bef3d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707140809x192fac21i276d40a96f187fc9@mail.gmail.com> Sugar does its thing in the combustion chamber. If you can get it into the injector rail (past the filter) and through the injectors it will cause trouble in the chamber. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jul 14 09:12:56 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 09:12:56 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: This computer is driving me crazy! In-Reply-To: References: <001101c7c590$5ea9b050$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707140812v3a2495c6o1e248b67290c912e@mail.gmail.com> The secret to good Okra is breading it a frying it. Or, better still, pickle it. You have to cut the Okra off the stalk when the time is right. If you leave it on the stalk, it will rot eventually. Boiled Okra is to be avoided like Hogs Head Cheese (yep, it is that) and blood boudin. All are tasty, but there are too many other tasty things that aren't disgusting. Cheers, Derf From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Jul 14 09:19:07 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 08:19:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: This computer is driving me crazy! In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707140812v3a2495c6o1e248b67290c912e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > The secret to good Okra I think my wife watches her. From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jul 14 09:19:49 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 09:19:49 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] How to blow up a VW In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0707140504j10a01663xdf8711854e4bef3d@mail.gmail.com> References: <469838D8.4040509@comcast.net> <5f00d9910707132102y115818e9t1ce095ecc6acaf7e@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0707140504j10a01663xdf8711854e4bef3d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707140819j45bb253fyfe008cebeab0760b@mail.gmail.com> Sugar does its thing in the combustion chamber. If you can get it into the injector rail (past the filter) and through the injectors it will cause trouble in the chamber. Cheers, Derf From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sat Jul 14 10:55:04 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 11:55:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: This computer is driving me crazy! In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707140812v3a2495c6o1e248b67290c912e@mail.gmail.com> References: <001101c7c590$5ea9b050$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <5f00d9910707140812v3a2495c6o1e248b67290c912e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <84307AB3-80D4-43CD-A35E-88A0DD6EA53C@comcast.net> pfftt.. the best is to pressure cook it.. mmmm.. and remember, Hogs Head cheese has neither. It is a type of spiced sausage. Second best is when it's in a nice gumbo.. ya know, there are times when I miss New Orleans.. Lester .. and some REAL red beans and rice. On Jul 14, 2007, at 10:12 AM, derf wrote: > The secret to good Okra is breading it a frying it. > Or, better still, pickle it. > > You have to cut the Okra off the stalk when the time is right. If you > leave it on the stalk, it will rot eventually. > > Boiled Okra is to be avoided like Hogs Head Cheese (yep, it is that) > and blood boudin. All are tasty, but there are too many other tasty > things that aren't disgusting. > Cheers, > Derf From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sat Jul 14 10:56:16 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 11:56:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] How to blow up a VW In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707140819j45bb253fyfe008cebeab0760b@mail.gmail.com> References: <469838D8.4040509@comcast.net> <5f00d9910707132102y115818e9t1ce095ecc6acaf7e@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0707140504j10a01663xdf8711854e4bef3d@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910707140819j45bb253fyfe008cebeab0760b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Don't you watch Mythbusters? It didn't do squat to their V8 although some bleach did a real number IIRC Lester On Jul 14, 2007, at 10:19 AM, derf wrote: > Sugar does its thing in the combustion chamber. If you can get it > into the injector rail (past the filter) and through the injectors it > will cause trouble in the chamber. > Cheers, > Derf From wsthompson at thicko.com Sat Jul 14 11:45:20 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 12:45:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: This computer is driving me crazy! In-Reply-To: References: <5f00d9910707140812v3a2495c6o1e248b67290c912e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000b01c7c63e$c122bde0$436839a0$@com> She's a customer of mine. I sat on the sofa that tom Cruise jumped up and down on. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Billy Zoom Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 10:19 AM To: derf; Hal Faulkner Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: This computer is driving me crazy! > The secret to good Okra I think my wife watches her. From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jul 14 12:35:21 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 12:35:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: This computer is driving me crazy! In-Reply-To: <84307AB3-80D4-43CD-A35E-88A0DD6EA53C@comcast.net> References: <001101c7c590$5ea9b050$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <5f00d9910707140812v3a2495c6o1e248b67290c912e@mail.gmail.com> <84307AB3-80D4-43CD-A35E-88A0DD6EA53C@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707141135t6c9f0a58p8197ce8483f50e63@mail.gmail.com> Uhh, no. Hog Head Cheese is a pig's head, quartered, boiled, etc. Directions start like: Remove eyes........... On 7/14/07, oldsaabguy wrote: > pfftt.. the best is to pressure cook it.. mmmm.. and remember, > Hogs Head cheese has neither. It is a type of spiced sausage. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sat Jul 14 12:59:11 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 13:59:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: This computer is driving me crazy! In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707141135t6c9f0a58p8197ce8483f50e63@mail.gmail.com> References: <001101c7c590$5ea9b050$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <5f00d9910707140812v3a2495c6o1e248b67290c912e@mail.gmail.com> <84307AB3-80D4-43CD-A35E-88A0DD6EA53C@comcast.net> <5f00d9910707141135t6c9f0a58p8197ce8483f50e63@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1DA70E30-2845-41D4-8637-6939BE54E11B@comcast.net> *IF* you live WAAAAY out in the woods then maybe, but it is just a spiced sausage nowadays. Lester On Jul 14, 2007, at 1:35 PM, derf wrote: > Uhh, no. Hog Head Cheese is a pig's head, quartered, boiled, etc. > Directions start like: > Remove eyes........... > > > On 7/14/07, oldsaabguy wrote: >> pfftt.. the best is to pressure cook it.. mmmm.. and remember, >> Hogs Head cheese has neither. It is a type of spiced sausage. From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jul 14 13:46:02 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 13:46:02 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: This computer is driving me crazy! In-Reply-To: <1DA70E30-2845-41D4-8637-6939BE54E11B@comcast.net> References: <001101c7c590$5ea9b050$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <5f00d9910707140812v3a2495c6o1e248b67290c912e@mail.gmail.com> <84307AB3-80D4-43CD-A35E-88A0DD6EA53C@comcast.net> <5f00d9910707141135t6c9f0a58p8197ce8483f50e63@mail.gmail.com> <1DA70E30-2845-41D4-8637-6939BE54E11B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707141246q4bd944ecn754dc1d4e6f257c7@mail.gmail.com> Well, to this day you can get authentic hog's head cheese at many places. The boudin casing is real pig intestine. Hog head cheese is a pig's head. Cracklins are fried pig skin. I'm sure you can get red boudin that doesn't have blood in it but that isn't authentic either. You have to get out in the woods to get real blood boudin, I think. But, most of the other authentic stuff is available at suburban specialty meat places, just like every other part of the country. New Orleans has a lot to offer food wise but it ain't necessarily authentic cajun stuff. The other 99% of south Louisiana is different from NO. Where your part of the country may have bratwurst or Rocky Mountain oysters, or sushi, this part of the country has jambalaya, etouffe, boudin, and hog head cheese. Andouille (pronounced "ahn-DOO-wee") and boudin (boo-dan) are pork or chicken sausage products. But, hogshead or hog head cheese isn't spiced sausage. See John Folse recipe, he's no Emeril, but respected around here: http://www.jfolse.com/recipes/meats/pork21.htm Note first ingredient. Cheers, Derf On 7/14/07, oldsaabguy wrote: > *IF* you live WAAAAY out in the woods then maybe, but it is just a > spiced sausage nowadays. From dmg at bossig.com Sat Jul 14 14:08:01 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 13:08:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: This computer is driving me crazy! In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707141246q4bd944ecn754dc1d4e6f257c7@mail.gmail.com> References: <001101c7c590$5ea9b050$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>, <1DA70E30-2845-41D4-8637-6939BE54E11B@comcast.net>, <5f00d9910707141246q4bd944ecn754dc1d4e6f257c7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4698CAB1.12265.150C84F@dmg.bossig.com> Not forgetting Red Beans and Rice, Shrimp Gumbo and all that good stuff.. Darn you, Derf, You just had to send this email at Lunch time...!! Doesn't help me trying to keep on my Heart Diet! lol On 14 Jul 2007 at 13:46, derf wrote: >> this part of the country has jambalaya, etouffe, >> boudin, and hog head cheese. - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Sat Jul 14 14:15:15 2007 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 13:15:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Leaf springs Message-ID: <0c0101c7c653$b0977690$0e6a010a@mail2world.com> Yeah, Rob V and I did this to my Midget a couple of years ago, althlugh I don't think we did it "properly", as some of the paint cracked. We used a baseball bat. It still has the battle scars! Still, it worked. :) -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com [pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com] Sent: 7/12/2007 3:31:51 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Leaf springs Linda, The last thing you want to dois raise the center of gravity. The 'trick' is to use a large 'dowel' (something between a closet rod and a basball bat) to genty nudge or roll the fender lip out away from the tire. This is done by havingthe wheel off the ground and using the tire to roll the bat between the tire and fender. to gain some clearance. Done properly, it is effective and imperceptable... unless you have a lot of bondo in the wheel arch...'-) YMMV. Gerard From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Sat Jul 14 14:36:07 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 15:36:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: This computer is driving me crazy! References: <001101c7c590$5ea9b050$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>, <1DA70E30-2845-41D4-8637-6939BE54E11B@comcast.net>, <5f00d9910707141246q4bd944ecn754dc1d4e6f257c7@mail.gmail.com> <4698CAB1.12265.150C84F@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <038e01c7c656$9f3c6150$6501a8c0@actualshop> But Dave !! <<...Shrimp Gumbo...>> and <<...my Heart Diet! >> Fish is GOOD for you!!!! From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Jul 14 14:44:03 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 13:44:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Lotus mailing list members (no gumbo/shrip/fish heads) Message-ID: <382-22007761420443718@earthlink.net> Ron Soave wrote: "It was the cost of preventative stuff that got overwhelming [on a Lotus Esprit]...." Lots of people have company cars...Fords, Chevrolets, etc. But a friend in England had a Lotus Espirit for his company car, which was fitting since he was the chief test engineer for Lotus. He once gave Pam and me (separately) for a little spin on those little byroads of Norfolk and Suffolk. At speed. What a hair-raising ride. He was quite proud of their product, and never ceased to enjoy telling of its virtues off the production line such as the incredible audio system, handling, braking, and air conditioning (not common in the UK at the time). What he was particularly proud of was the 30+ mpg system that met higher EU emissions standards, but not the lower US requirements. To meet the lower US standards, modifications had to be made to be tested on the outmoded brand of equipment explicitly required by US law. That had the effect of meeting the US requirements, but would fail the more stringent EU standards. The mpg, although lower, still did not impose the American gas guzzler tax. What a crazy bureaucratic world! Oh, he had absolutely no problem with the cost of maintenance! Buster ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Soave To: bugeye at yahoogroups.com Sent: 7/13/2007 1:32:27 PM Subject: RE: Bugeye Group..... Re: Lotus mailing list members rally to restore unwell fellow-lister's car] --- type79 at ix.netcom.com wrote: > Basically, one shouldn't buy a Lotus if they don't > understand it is a performance car that lives it > life on the edge. Actually, the Turbo Esprit was quite civil and spot-on reliable. I put almost 30,000 miles on it as a daily driver for the better part of 3 years. It was the cost of preventative stuff that got overwhelming (the radiator actually ended up easy - I had the local shop make a copy of the factory one for $450). I'll have another, someday. Ron Soave "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain __________________________________________________________ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (0) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar If you must unsubscribe from the Bugeye Interest Group, please send an email to: bugeye-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com If you no longer want to receive emails, but wish to remain a member of the group, you may go to the website and change your subscription to "Web Only" and you will not receive any emails. Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! 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Finance It's Now Personal Guides, news, advice & more.. __,_._,___ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of ma_grp_160.gif] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of nc34507179] From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Jul 14 14:55:44 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 13:55:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Rosebud Message-ID: <543222.20472.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The very first car memory I have is when my dad and brother went to the NY Auto show in 1968. I was 2, and got left home with the women-folk. My brother came home with a 1/43 model of the Miura, it turned when you pressed on the wheels, and all the boots and bonnets opened. I thought it was the coolest thing I'd ever seen. My father arranged for a friend to pick one up for me. I haven't seen it since 1970 or so. I just found one in original condition, March 1968 date code, at an antique toy store in town. I've been looking on ebay unsuccessfully for years, I'm pretty friggin' happy. Back to Cajun Cookin' 101, Ron Soave "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 From wsthompson at thicko.com Sat Jul 14 14:56:06 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 15:56:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] pop up camper for sale in WI Message-ID: <000301c7c659$67adc960$37095c20$@com> Hey y'all, This will hit Ebay tomorrow. We're selling the Striking Viking's Palomino Pinto pop up camper. She purchased it new in 2003 and used it 4 times. It is in mint condition. Sleeps 6 with room to spare. Has refrigerator, furnace, propane stovetop that can be used inside or out. It's always been stored indoors, and it is very clean. Anyone interested? Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sat Jul 14 15:15:44 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 16:15:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: This computer is driving me crazy! In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707141246q4bd944ecn754dc1d4e6f257c7@mail.gmail.com> References: <001101c7c590$5ea9b050$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <5f00d9910707140812v3a2495c6o1e248b67290c912e@mail.gmail.com> <84307AB3-80D4-43CD-A35E-88A0DD6EA53C@comcast.net> <5f00d9910707141135t6c9f0a58p8197ce8483f50e63@mail.gmail.com> <1DA70E30-2845-41D4-8637-6939BE54E11B@comcast.net> <5f00d9910707141246q4bd944ecn754dc1d4e6f257c7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Pffftt.. he's from Baton Rouge.. ;-) not worth arguing over. Lester On Jul 14, 2007, at 2:46 PM, derf wrote: > Well, to this day you can get authentic hog's head cheese at many > places. > The boudin casing is real pig intestine. > Hog head cheese is a pig's head. > Cracklins are fried pig skin. > > I'm sure you can get red boudin that doesn't have blood in it but that > isn't authentic either. > You have to get out in the woods to get real blood boudin, I think. > > But, most of the other authentic stuff is available at suburban > specialty meat places, just like every other part of the country. > New Orleans has a lot to offer food wise but it ain't necessarily > authentic cajun stuff. The other 99% of south Louisiana is different > from NO. > > Where your part of the country may have bratwurst or Rocky Mountain > oysters, or sushi, this part of the country has jambalaya, etouffe, > boudin, and hog head cheese. > > Andouille (pronounced "ahn-DOO-wee") and boudin (boo-dan) are pork or > chicken sausage products. > But, hogshead or hog head cheese isn't spiced sausage. > See John Folse recipe, he's no Emeril, but respected around here: > http://www.jfolse.com/recipes/meats/pork21.htm > Note first ingredient. > Cheers, > Derf > > > > On 7/14/07, oldsaabguy wrote: >> *IF* you live WAAAAY out in the woods then maybe, but it is just a >> spiced sausage nowadays. From pilotrob at webtv.net Sat Jul 14 15:28:18 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 21:28:18 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Rosebud/Miura Message-ID: Proving once again, good things (besides Spridgets) come in small packages, eh? :) Fr'instance.....there was this 5'2", 25 year old blonde............ :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From dmg at bossig.com Sat Jul 14 15:31:37 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 14:31:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Rosebud/Miura In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4698DE49.11460.19D5098@dmg.bossig.com> Now that's *really* weird... I had the same dream.... On 14 Jul 2007 at 21:28, Robert E. Shlafer wrote: >> Fr'instance.....there was this 5'2", 25 year old blonde............ :) - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From pilotrob at webtv.net Sat Jul 14 15:40:22 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 21:40:22 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Rosebud/Miura Message-ID: My particular dream's name was Christina Robin Smith. And your's.........? :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From kevin at valentinephoto.net Sat Jul 14 15:39:34 2007 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:39:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Quantum Mechanics question Message-ID: <35E8DA55-C9CE-4387-8CE4-8E06A0623DA2@valentinephoto.net> Hey All, Anyone know if John at Quantum Mechanics is on vacation? A friend (Sal) needs a rebuilt tranny for his Spitfire and has not been successful contacting John for the past 10 or 12 days. Thanks, Kevin V. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Jul 14 15:42:28 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 16:42:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Terry's Spanners Message-ID: <01bb01c7c65f$e0a43880$0401a8c0@midget> I was cleaning out a couple of my toolboxes today and came across a coupe old wrenches. Out of curiosity I figured I would ask you guys what you might know about them. The first one says "Terry's Spanners Made in England Tempered Steel". One end is labeled "4 B.A" and the other is "6 B.A". The 4 end looks like about 1/4" and the 6 end is smaller (probably makes sense to an Englishman) at about 3/16". The other wrench is an old Ford wrench. One end is labeled "1" and the other end is "2". in between it says "T-1917 and has an "M" in a circle. Presumably part of the toolkit from a Model T? David Lieb From dmg at bossig.com Sat Jul 14 15:51:19 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 14:51:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Rosebud/Miura In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4698E2E7.2294.1AF59D7@dmg.bossig.com> I don't know... she wouldn't even talk to me... ;-( ...... And then I woke up... On 14 Jul 2007 at 21:40, Robert E. Shlafer wrote: >> My particular dream's name was Christina Robin Smith. And your's.........? - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From dmg at bossig.com Sat Jul 14 15:53:47 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 14:53:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Terry's Spanners In-Reply-To: <01bb01c7c65f$e0a43880$0401a8c0@midget> References: <01bb01c7c65f$e0a43880$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <4698E37B.11390.1B19CD2@dmg.bossig.com> "BA" spanners (wrenches" were quite the rage in the early 50's as an attempt to have a generic univeral size of nuts/bolts for a lot of trades... I first came across them in the Airborne Commmunications world.. On 14 Jul 2007 at 16:42, David Lieb wrote: >> One end is labeled "4 B.A" and the other is "6 B.A". The 4 end looks like >> about 1/4" and the 6 end is smaller (probably makes sense to an Englishman) at >> about 3/16". - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sat Jul 14 16:58:11 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:58:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Dwell vs gap.. Message-ID: <8E2B212E-00E4-4C56-8AC1-BEF49A66A9DF@comcast.net> Hello all, does anyone have the dwell numbers for a Bugeye? All that I can find are the point gap numbers. Thanks, Lester From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jul 14 17:13:35 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:13:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Dwell vs gap.. In-Reply-To: <8E2B212E-00E4-4C56-8AC1-BEF49A66A9DF@comcast.net> References: <8E2B212E-00E4-4C56-8AC1-BEF49A66A9DF@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707141613u50d635aem10aaf644a05a5264@mail.gmail.com> Doesn't proper gap give you desired dwell if your parts are in spec? I would guess 50 or 60 for Bugeye dwell. From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jul 14 17:18:26 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:18:26 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Dwell vs gap.. In-Reply-To: <8E2B212E-00E4-4C56-8AC1-BEF49A66A9DF@comcast.net> References: <8E2B212E-00E4-4C56-8AC1-BEF49A66A9DF@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707141618o4c334342pc8085e9f30677f4a@mail.gmail.com> I'm leaning toward 60. If your Bugeye is pos ground then your dwell angle meter might read something like 30 instead of 60 when the dwell is indeed 60. From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Sat Jul 14 17:21:13 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 16:21:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: Lotus mailing list members References: <382-22007761420443718@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <001701c7c66d$acddcb20$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Now here's a Ferrari that has no problem with the high PM costs. http://tinyurl.com/2hu4od Paul A ----- Original Message ----- Cc: "Ron Soave" Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 1:44 PM Subject: Bugeye Group..... Re: Lotus mailing list members (no gumbo/shrip/fish heads) Ron Soave wrote: "It was the cost of preventative stuff that got overwhelming [on a Lotus Esprit]...." From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Sat Jul 14 17:36:18 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:36:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Terry's Spanners References: <01bb01c7c65f$e0a43880$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <07b301c7c66f$c7f6fab0$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> Try on your SU Linkage, David. From pythias at pacifier.com Sat Jul 14 17:41:37 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 16:41:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Dwell vs gap.. In-Reply-To: <8E2B212E-00E4-4C56-8AC1-BEF49A66A9DF@comcast.net> References: <8E2B212E-00E4-4C56-8AC1-BEF49A66A9DF@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1886460327.20070714164137@pacifier.com> Hello oldsaabguy, the "book" give 60 degrees + or - 3 degrees. -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite Assassins do it from behind. From dmg at bossig.com Sat Jul 14 17:43:42 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 16:43:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] HS2 Stub stack question... Message-ID: <4698FD3E.28733.2163EC8@dmg.bossig.com> What, if any, is the advantage of fitting a stub stack inside the air filter?? BHP increase? MPG increase? Hype?? TIA - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Jul 14 18:04:35 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:04:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] HS2 Stub stack question... In-Reply-To: <4698FD3E.28733.2163EC8@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <8583.41161.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- "Dave G." wrote: > What, if any, is the advantage of fitting a stub > stack inside the air filter?? > BHP increase? MPG increase? Hype?? It very much improves the entrance loss into the carb. Very much. From pythias at pacifier.com Sat Jul 14 18:00:07 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:00:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] HS2 Stub stack question... In-Reply-To: <4698FD3E.28733.2163EC8@dmg.bossig.com> References: <4698FD3E.28733.2163EC8@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <685119473.20070714170007@pacifier.com> Hello Dave, here's a little tale ... there is a hill on one of my regular "runs"... i got stacks (in this case they were 1 1/2" tall--- picked 'em up on ebay from Joe Huffaker, [didn't know at the time they were coming from him] and K&N filters, 3" tall {the "book" saying you need as much clearance from the top of the stack or pipe as the pipes are in diameter, or is it tall,).. .. anyway one day before i installed the stacks and air cleaners, (as every previous run up the hill) i had to downshift from 4th gear to 3rd gear to climb the hill... next day, new air cleaners, and stacks (ram pipes) and i could and still can accelerate in 4th gear up the hill.... .. .. i would never run without 'em again. simple easy cheap, horsepower, with no loss of reliability or engine life!!!!!! do it... as an aside... those stacks are two piece kinda things.. have never seen their like again.. one came a little loose so i orders the one piece billet stubs from aptfast.com. i have since had the huffaker ones repaired and they sit on my shelf... .. .. .. ... -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite Assassins do it from behind. From dmg at bossig.com Sat Jul 14 18:13:59 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:13:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] HS2 Stub stack question... In-Reply-To: <8583.41161.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4698FD3E.28733.2163EC8@dmg.bossig.com>, <8583.41161.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46990457.27207.231F8FD@dmg.bossig.com> Once again, my thanks to the many that replied.... I'm gonna do it ;-) FREE HP.... who can turn that down? Unless there is a list member that sells them, APT will get a call from me on Monday - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sat Jul 14 18:40:20 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 19:40:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] now starting problems.. In-Reply-To: <1886460327.20070714164137@pacifier.com> References: <8E2B212E-00E4-4C56-8AC1-BEF49A66A9DF@comcast.net> <1886460327.20070714164137@pacifier.com> Message-ID: Ok, thanks to all that offered help. I'm running at 63 deg so I figure I'm good on that front. Here's the problem: I pull on the starter and what happens is that the starter turns over and engages and then quickly disengages as though the engine is running BUT it happens too soon so the engine isn't given enough time to start. It's driving me nuts. I have checked dwell I have poured some fuel down the carb (Judson setup) Voltage is reasonable at 11.6 But I got no go. True to form I was driving the car around enjoying life, I park it and try to start the next day with no joy. Any ideas??? HELP?? Lester On Jul 14, 2007, at 6:41 PM, Bill L wrote: > Hello oldsaabguy, > > the "book" give 60 degrees + or - 3 degrees. > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > "66 Sprite > Assassins do it from behind. From millerls at ado13.com Sat Jul 14 18:56:47 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:56:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] now starting problems.. References: <8E2B212E-00E4-4C56-8AC1-BEF49A66A9DF@comcast.net><1886460327.20070714164137@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <011501c7c67b$05c51e70$d280bc43@HP> Weak Bendix? ----- Original Message ----- From: "oldsaabguy" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] now starting problems.. > Ok, > thanks to all that offered help. I'm running at 63 deg so I figure > I'm good on that front. > > Here's the problem: > > I pull on the starter and what happens is that the starter turns > over and engages and then quickly disengages as though the engine is > running BUT it happens too soon so the engine isn't given enough time > to start. It's driving me nuts. > > I have checked dwell > > I have poured some fuel down the carb (Judson setup) > > Voltage is reasonable at 11.6 > > But I got no go. > > True to form I was driving the car around enjoying life, I park it > and try to start the next day with no joy. > > Any ideas??? > > HELP?? > > Lester > > > On Jul 14, 2007, at 6:41 PM, Bill L wrote: > >> Hello oldsaabguy, >> >> the "book" give 60 degrees + or - 3 degrees. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, From britcrs at mac.com Sat Jul 14 18:56:43 2007 From: britcrs at mac.com (Marvin James) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:56:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Terry's Spanners Message-ID: <95793FA5-EE53-4BFA-81D0-FC0DC5B1AE87@mac.com> BA stands for "British Association". It's a common Brit system found on small fasteners and, like someone else said, may work on your SU carb linkage. I've seen them marked 3BA thru 5BA. There may be more. The Ford wrench could be a number of wrenches. One common one is an open end 5/8 by 9/16 about 5 1/2'" long and used to adjust the bands in the transmission. Another is much bigger with offset boxes at both ends - one for wheel nuts and the other end for spark plugs. None of mine are marked 1 and 2. Marv James From duncan at pondhop.com Sat Jul 14 19:14:06 2007 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 20:14:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Terry's Spanners In-Reply-To: <95793FA5-EE53-4BFA-81D0-FC0DC5B1AE87@mac.com> References: <95793FA5-EE53-4BFA-81D0-FC0DC5B1AE87@mac.com> Message-ID: <002901c7c67d$70965320$51c2f960$@com> I have seen then down to 0BA which is very close to M6X1 Duncan -----Original Message----- From: Marvin James [mailto:britcrs at mac.com] Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 7:57 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Terry's Spanners BA stands for "British Association". It's a common Brit system found on small fasteners and, like someone else said, may work on your SU carb linkage. I've seen them marked 3BA thru 5BA. There may be more. The Ford wrench could be a number of wrenches. One common one is an open end 5/8 by 9/16 about 5 1/2'" long and used to adjust the bands in the transmission. Another is much bigger with offset boxes at both ends - one for wheel nuts and the other end for spark plugs. None of mine are marked 1 and 2. Marv James _______________________________________________ duncan at pondhop.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sat Jul 14 19:16:12 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 20:16:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] now starting problems.. In-Reply-To: <011501c7c67b$05c51e70$d280bc43@HP> References: <8E2B212E-00E4-4C56-8AC1-BEF49A66A9DF@comcast.net><1886460327.20070714164137@pacifier.com> <011501c7c67b$05c51e70$d280bc43@HP> Message-ID: <339B0081-E329-48A7-8248-116A58EFBC63@comcast.net> ..yeah.. that's what I'm thinking at present.. any other ideas?? Lester On Jul 14, 2007, at 7:56 PM, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > Weak Bendix? > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "oldsaabguy" > > Cc: "Spridgets" > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 5:40 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] now starting problems.. > > >> Ok, >> thanks to all that offered help. I'm running at 63 deg so I >> figure I'm good on that front. >> Here's the problem: >> I pull on the starter and what happens is that the starter turns >> over and engages and then quickly disengages as though the engine >> is running BUT it happens too soon so the engine isn't given >> enough time to start. It's driving me nuts. >> I have checked dwell >> I have poured some fuel down the carb (Judson setup) >> Voltage is reasonable at 11.6 >> But I got no go. >> True to form I was driving the car around enjoying life, I park >> it and try to start the next day with no joy. >> Any ideas??? >> HELP?? >> Lester >> On Jul 14, 2007, at 6:41 PM, Bill L wrote: >>> Hello oldsaabguy, >>> >>> the "book" give 60 degrees + or - 3 degrees. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jul 14 20:07:59 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 20:07:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] now starting problems.. In-Reply-To: <339B0081-E329-48A7-8248-116A58EFBC63@comcast.net> References: <8E2B212E-00E4-4C56-8AC1-BEF49A66A9DF@comcast.net> <1886460327.20070714164137@pacifier.com> <011501c7c67b$05c51e70$d280bc43@HP> <339B0081-E329-48A7-8248-116A58EFBC63@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707141907j2df12977s9b069d910f244dee@mail.gmail.com> Poor ground strap connection? Worn starter brushes? Bad starter relay? (solenoid) or switch in your case. Maybe your electrical connections won't support the current required to turn the motor. You get enough current to turn the starter and engage the bendix but when it needs power to turn the motor, it fails. Does the starter continue to spin with the gear disengaged or does it simply stop? Cheers, Derf From herby at herbytoys.com Sat Jul 14 20:13:15 2007 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 19:13:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 3.9 rear end.. again In-Reply-To: <200707080157.l681v6CE001427@tremex.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <000701c7c685$b55a6a20$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> I went and picked up the 3.9 from Glen. It is just as he said, a little "weathered" but it's fine shape. I may just pop it in this winter during my planned rear end resto (refurbed 3rd member, new PPP shocks, painting, remounted fuel pump, etc.) and hope for the best. Or I may just pop new bearings in for peace of mind. Glen gave me a treat as well. A ride in the Awesome Austin A35! While definitely not the white knuckle ride of his turbo Bugeye it is not as BMC ever intended for the A35! It scoots quite well. And handles like no A35 (or any Austin sedan) was intended to. Thanks Glen, Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com From abcoz at hky.com Sat Jul 14 20:17:32 2007 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 22:17:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Dwell vs gap.. In-Reply-To: <8E2B212E-00E4-4C56-8AC1-BEF49A66A9DF@comcast.net> Message-ID: <006601c7c686$4d50b280$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Dwell angle should be set at 60 degrees +/-2. The beauty of setting your dwell angle precisely at 60 is that, if you then set the timing just right; each time you reset the dwell to 60 degrees, the timing will also be spot-on. If you set point gap with a feeler gauge; you will, invariably be a couple of degrees off 60, and your timing will not be just right. If you set points on a very regular basis with a feeler gauge, you will become consistent enough to get is close each time. If, however, you are like the rest of us and check dwell angle/point gap only once a month or so; you will be much more consistent with a dwell meter. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of oldsaabguy Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 5:58 PM To: Spridgets List Subject: [Spridgets] Dwell vs gap.. Hello all, does anyone have the dwell numbers for a Bugeye? All that I can find are the point gap numbers. Thanks, Lester From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Sat Jul 14 20:23:20 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 21:23:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] now starting problems.. References: <8E2B212E-00E4-4C56-8AC1-BEF49A66A9DF@comcast.net><1886460327.20070714164137@pacifier.com> <011501c7c67b$05c51e70$d280bc43@HP> Message-ID: <009c01c7c687$1d0a08f0$6501a8c0@actualshop> er, Larry??? <> When did Washing Machines get dragged into "hard starting"???? Enquiring ........ . . . . . . . . . . From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sat Jul 14 20:23:47 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 21:23:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] now starting problems.. In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707141907j2df12977s9b069d910f244dee@mail.gmail.com> References: <8E2B212E-00E4-4C56-8AC1-BEF49A66A9DF@comcast.net> <1886460327.20070714164137@pacifier.com> <011501c7c67b$05c51e70$d280bc43@HP> <339B0081-E329-48A7-8248-116A58EFBC63@comcast.net> <5f00d9910707141907j2df12977s9b069d910f244dee@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3592F41B-C2CB-4A64-8A92-86317CC59DAD@comcast.net> On Jul 14, 2007, at 9:07 PM, derf wrote: > Poor ground strap connection? > Worn starter brushes? > Bad starter relay? (solenoid) or switch in your case. > > Maybe your electrical connections won't support the current required > to turn the motor. > You get enough current to turn the starter and engage the bendix but > when it needs power to turn the motor, it fails. No, it's more like it turns the motor and then is no longer engaged, like the bendix is causing it to kick out.. > > Does the starter continue to spin with the gear disengaged or does it > simply stop? > The starter continues to spin.. would weak battery cause this? Good voltage but not enough amps? Lester > Cheers, > Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jul 14 20:36:03 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 20:36:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] now starting problems.. In-Reply-To: <3592F41B-C2CB-4A64-8A92-86317CC59DAD@comcast.net> References: <8E2B212E-00E4-4C56-8AC1-BEF49A66A9DF@comcast.net> <1886460327.20070714164137@pacifier.com> <011501c7c67b$05c51e70$d280bc43@HP> <339B0081-E329-48A7-8248-116A58EFBC63@comcast.net> <5f00d9910707141907j2df12977s9b069d910f244dee@mail.gmail.com> <3592F41B-C2CB-4A64-8A92-86317CC59DAD@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707141936u605c34dcm1e83d603772ada4a@mail.gmail.com> May be time to pull the starter and see what's up. Do you have another nearby? From dmg at bossig.com Sat Jul 14 21:49:09 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 20:49:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Drilling a hole in the bodywork... Message-ID: <469936C5.2940.2F6F594@dmg.bossig.com> In order to get power to the license plate (tag) lamps, I am going to have to drill a 1/4" to3/8" hole through the rear valance - just to the right of center. How can I do this without damaging my (very acceptable) paint job?? Will it work if I put Duct tape on the outer surface over where I want to drill and just drill bigger and bigger holes? Or will that damage the paint? TIA - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From pythias at pacifier.com Sat Jul 14 23:34:38 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 22:34:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] HS2 Stub stack question... In-Reply-To: <46990457.27207.231F8FD@dmg.bossig.com> References: <4698FD3E.28733.2163EC8@dmg.bossig.com>, <8583.41161.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <46990457.27207.231F8FD@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <226730796.20070714223438@pacifier.com> Hello Dave, get the K&N filters too!!!!!! -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite Reality? That's where the pizza delivery guy comes from! From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Sun Jul 15 00:12:19 2007 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 2:12:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: Lotus mailing list members Message-ID: <23665278.1184479939522.JavaMail.root@wmvirt6> Paul Asgeirsson wrote: Now here's a Ferrari that has no problem with the high PM costs. http://tinyurl.com/2hu4od Yeah, right! Do you have any idea how much that would cost to get dry cleaned? Just cause it says Ferrari on it triples the price... Anon From grday at btinternet.com Sun Jul 15 04:26:20 2007 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 11:26:20 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: Lotus mailing list members References: <382-22007761420443718@earthlink.net> <001701c7c66d$acddcb20$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <001401c7c6ca$9668ea20$71578956@tairswork> But when it's washed.... LOL Can you put it in a spin dryer? Attorney to client: What gear were you in when you had the accident? Client: Well, I had my red knitted top on. Sorry, I'll get my coat....... please don't ban me from the list, please, please, I won't do it again (yeah right!) GRD ps What kind of oil is used when you lube it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Asgeirsson" To: ; ; Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: Lotus mailing list members > Now here's a Ferrari that has no problem with the high PM costs. > > http://tinyurl.com/2hu4od > > Paul A > > > ----- Original Message ----- > Cc: "Ron Soave" > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 1:44 PM > Subject: Bugeye Group..... Re: Lotus mailing list members (no > gumbo/shrip/fish heads) > > > Ron Soave wrote: "It was the cost of preventative stuff that got > overwhelming [on a Lotus Esprit]...." > _______________________________________________ > grday at btinternet.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grday at btinternet.com Sun Jul 15 04:42:00 2007 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 11:42:00 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Terry's Spanners References: <95793FA5-EE53-4BFA-81D0-FC0DC5B1AE87@mac.com> Message-ID: <004b01c7c6cc$c6a57a30$71578956@tairswork> This is a light article to moves into spanner sizes from thread sizes http://www.internationalcockpitclub.org.uk/articles/article_threads.htm I had a lovely set of chromed BA ring spanners between 2 and 3 inches long that were 'lost' many years ago at my first race meeting when I left the took box lid open. I had them given by an uncle when I was 14. GRRR! GRD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marvin James" To: Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 1:56 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Terry's Spanners > BA stands for "British Association". It's a common Brit system found > on small fasteners and, like someone else said, may work on your SU > carb linkage. I've seen them marked 3BA thru 5BA. There may be more. > > The Ford wrench could be a number of wrenches. One common one is an > open end 5/8 by 9/16 about 5 1/2'" long and used to adjust the bands > in the transmission. Another is much bigger with offset boxes at both > ends - one for wheel nuts and the other end for spark plugs. None of > mine are marked 1 and 2. > > Marv James > _______________________________________________ > grday at btinternet.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Jul 15 06:30:29 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 07:30:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] need a Mini expert Message-ID: <001001c7c6db$efc41110$cf4c3330$@com> What year/model did a Mini have a cast header on it? Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Jul 15 07:39:56 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 08:39:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] HS2 Stub stack question... References: <4698FD3E.28733.2163EC8@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <020601c7c6e5$a430a3d0$0401a8c0@midget> > What, if any, is the advantage of fitting a stub stack inside the air > filter?? > BHP increase? MPG increase? Hype?? David Vizard's definitive book on the A-Series engine goes into this in painful detail. As indicated by the other responses, it is NOT smoke and mirrors. For further corroboration, I submit that MGBs came stock from the factory with a stub stack in place. A quick generalization is that a very small stub stack will get you most of the benefit available, but that the height of the stack will affect the rpm at which you will see the most effect. Therefore, if you are a racer, it can be worth your while to determine the precise height that will get you the most HP improvement at the rpm you need it, but a street car tends to be best served by a simple small stub stack. Yes, David Anton from APT told me that as he sold me a set of stub stacks. david Lieb From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Jul 15 07:40:58 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 08:40:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Terry's Spanners References: <95793FA5-EE53-4BFA-81D0-FC0DC5B1AE87@mac.com> <004b01c7c6cc$c6a57a30$71578956@tairswork> Message-ID: <020901c7c6e5$c71aeef0$0401a8c0@midget> > This is a light article to moves into spanner sizes from thread sizes > http://www.internationalcockpitclub.org.uk/articles/article_threads.htm Thank you! A most informative article. David Lieb From james.f.juhas at snet.net Sun Jul 15 09:59:50 2007 From: james.f.juhas at snet.net (Jim Juhas) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 11:59:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Leaf springs In-Reply-To: <205cef430707121207r78915b97r3ff9a80d190e22d2@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430707121207r78915b97r3ff9a80d190e22d2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <469A4476.6070606@snet.net> Linda: Although I have the half elliptical version, on our 1966 Sprite, I have 175/60x13 tires on Minitators. My springs were sagging and new ones brought it up to level height and also added lateral stability (I also used the red urethane bushings throughout) and this, along with rolling the lip like has been described, I eliminated almost all tire rub. It will occur infrequently if we have a full load of stuff and 2 people and hard turns, but for most driving it's gone. And the car is level. The next step will be a panhard rod when I get around to it. Perhaps these changes might be as effective on the quarter-elliptical setup. Linda Grunthaner wrote: >Frank & List, >What type of leaf springs or additional components do I order to jack up the >rear of my MKII Sprite so my tires on my mags (American Racing Libre wheels) >do not rub on the square fenders? With a 155 tire I only have a 1/2 >clearance can't I weld up or add to the leaf springs or buy something to get >the rear higher? Don't they have something used on the racing Sprites for >this? >Lin >_______________________________________________ >james.f.juhas at snet.net From Miniac7 at aol.com Sun Jul 15 11:16:23 2007 From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 13:16:23 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] need a Mini expert Message-ID: I'm certainly no "expert" but feel the question would be easier to answer if asked, "What year/model did the Mini NOT have a cast header?" Thinking about it however, I'm not sure what "cast header" means. The combination intake/exhaust manifold was cast iron from the very first Mini, before moving on to a 3 into 1 exhaust only type design, so I am having trouble figuring out what the question is. Please clarify. Howard Collins Virginia Beach, Va. ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Jul 15 11:21:26 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 12:21:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] need a Mini expert In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001301c7c704$950d1e50$bf275af0$@com> I misspoke. it was not cast, but a pressed steel welded header used on Cooper S's. I'm assuming they were used on 1275 motors. From: Miniac7 at aol.com [mailto:Miniac7 at aol.com] Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 12:16 PM To: wsthompson at thicko.com; spridgets at autox.team.net; team-thicko at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] need a Mini expert I'm certainly no "expert" but feel the question would be easier to answer if asked, "What year/model did the Mini NOT have a cast header?" Thinking about it however, I'm not sure what "cast header" means. The combination intake/exhaust manifold was cast iron from the very first Mini, before moving on to a 3 into 1 exhaust only type design, so I am having trouble figuring out what the question is. Please clarify. Howard Collins Virginia Beach, Va. _____ Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL.com . From wmgilroy at gmail.com Sun Jul 15 11:53:28 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 10:53:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Drilling a hole in the bodywork... In-Reply-To: <469936C5.2940.2F6F594@dmg.bossig.com> References: <469936C5.2940.2F6F594@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <441250190707151053y3a4b4027qd00c6a5f36dc9017@mail.gmail.com> Dave, Start with small drill (1/16") as a pilot and then move up one size. I piece of masking tape should help. If you can back it with a piece of wood that would be great. I have an assortment of grommets that that can go into the final hole, let me know the size if you want one. -g On 7/14/07, Dave G. wrote: > > In order to get power to the license plate (tag) lamps, I am going to have > to > drill a 1/4" to3/8" hole through the rear valance - just to the right of > center. > > How can I do this without damaging my (very acceptable) paint job?? > > Will it work if I put Duct tape on the outer surface over where I want to > drill > and just drill bigger and bigger holes? Or will that damage the paint? > > TIA > - > Dave G > '65 MKIII Sprite > _______________________________________________ > wmgilroy at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From miniac7 at aol.com Sun Jul 15 14:46:23 2007 From: miniac7 at aol.com (miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 16:46:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] need a Mini expert In-Reply-To: <001301c7c704$950d1e50$bf275af0$@com> References: <001301c7c704$950d1e50$bf275af0$@com> Message-ID: <8C99538574E1DC8-7B4-1DDC@WEBMAIL-MA15.sysops.aol.com> ?The header style exhaust manifold?you're refering to?was used on the following Cooper and Cooper S models: All Mk I, II 997 & 998 Coopers 10/61 through 11/69 ? All Mk I, II, III 970, 1071 & 1275 Cooper S 3/63 through 7/70. ? The 1275 S one was slightly taller for the taller block than the 997/998 Cooper one. I seem to remember the 970 and 1071 being the same as the 1275, but I could be wrong. ? Hope this helps, Howard Collins Virginia Beach, Va. -----Original Message----- From: Wm. Severin Thompson To: Miniac7 at aol.com; spridgets at autox.team.net; team-thicko at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 1:21 pm Subject: Re: [Spridgets] need a Mini expert I misspoke. it was not cast, but a pressed steel welded header used on Cooper S's. I'm assuming they were used on 1275 motors. From: Miniac7 at aol.com [mailto:Miniac7 at aol.com] Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 12:16 PM To: wsthompson at thicko.com; spridgets at autox.team.net; team-thicko at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] need a Mini expert I'm certainly no "expert" but feel the question would be easier to answer if asked, "What year/model did the Mini NOT have a cast header?" Thinking about it however, I'm not sure what "cast header" means. The combination intake/exhaust manifold was cast iron from the very first Mini, before moving on to a 3 into 1 exhaust only type design, so I am having trouble figuring out what the question is. Please clarify. Howard Collins Virginia Beach, Va. _____ Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL.com . _______________________________________________ miniac7 at aol.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Sun Jul 15 15:50:55 2007 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 17:50:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun B-210 w/5 speed in NM f/s Message-ID: <31310843.1184536255161.JavaMail.root@wmvirt99> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1979-Datsun-B-210_W0QQitemZ110147744939QQihZ001QQcategoryZ6783QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Item # 110147744939 NFI, just ran across it... Kent 1960 Bugeye 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen From TMHEFFRON at aol.com Sun Jul 15 16:05:27 2007 From: TMHEFFRON at aol.com (TMHEFFRON at aol.com) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 18:05:27 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Help with clutch problem... Message-ID: Hi List: I'm having a problem - my clutch doesn't want to fully disengage. Newly rebuilt 1275 in a .66 Sprite - ribcase trans - new stock 1275 pressure plate and clutch disc. I believe I've fully bled the clutch. I had a 1275 slave paired with the 1098 tandem master with the Winners Circle braided line with the AN adapters to match them up. This setup would not fully disengage the clutch, although it never felt as though it was fully bled. I put back the original 1098 slave and bled it with the stock steel line, this feels solidly bled, but is also fails to fully disengage the clutch. I got it running with the rear on a jack and then let the jack down. The car moves forward with a lot of cluch slip with the clutch pedal fully depressed. Any ideas? Do I need to make up a longer adjustable rod at the slave? I've taken out all the free play at the master to get as much throw as possible. Thank in advance for your help. TuTone - hopefully driving the Sprite to Elkhart lake this week... ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 15 16:22:10 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 16:22:10 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Help with clutch problem... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910707151522tbf9cfffic11b87e56c6a009a@mail.gmail.com> Disc stuck? Disc in backward? How much travel are you getting at the clutch lever? From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sun Jul 15 17:05:43 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 18:05:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] now starting problems.. In-Reply-To: <3592F41B-C2CB-4A64-8A92-86317CC59DAD@comcast.net> References: <8E2B212E-00E4-4C56-8AC1-BEF49A66A9DF@comcast.net> <1886460327.20070714164137@pacifier.com> <011501c7c67b$05c51e70$d280bc43@HP> <339B0081-E329-48A7-8248-116A58EFBC63@comcast.net> <5f00d9910707141907j2df12977s9b069d910f244dee@mail.gmail.com> <3592F41B-C2CB-4A64-8A92-86317CC59DAD@comcast.net> Message-ID: <544706CF-89E7-4C05-9AF9-C282325EFB7E@comcast.net> Ok I have checked the following and found them to be good: Battery voltage Battery connections Starter switch connections Plug gap Dwell Fuel Compression Spark, to include rotor, points, and coil In other words everything is fine. There is no problem .. OTHER THAN THE CAR WON'T START!!! At present I am leaning towards the starter. It "kicks out" after the engine had made about 3 revolutions. ..or am I missing something? Thanks all, Lester From duncan at pondhop.com Sun Jul 15 17:10:59 2007 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 18:10:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] now starting problems.. In-Reply-To: <544706CF-89E7-4C05-9AF9-C282325EFB7E@comcast.net> References: <8E2B212E-00E4-4C56-8AC1-BEF49A66A9DF@comcast.net> <1886460327.20070714164137@pacifier.com> <011501c7c67b$05c51e70$d280bc43@HP> <339B0081-E329-48A7-8248-116A58EFBC63@comcast.net> <5f00d9910707141907j2df12977s9b069d910f244dee@mail.gmail.com> <3592F41B-C2CB-4A64-8A92-86317CC59DAD@comcast.net> <544706CF-89E7-4C05-9AF9-C282325EFB7E@comcast.net> Message-ID: <006501c7c735$6854cad0$38fe6070$@com> Will the car start with a push start ? That would prove if it the starter or not. Duncan -----Original Message----- From: oldsaabguy [mailto:oldsaabguy at comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 6:06 PM Cc: Spridgets List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] now starting problems.. Ok I have checked the following and found them to be good: Battery voltage Battery connections Starter switch connections Plug gap Dwell Fuel Compression Spark, to include rotor, points, and coil In other words everything is fine. There is no problem .. OTHER THAN THE CAR WON'T START!!! At present I am leaning towards the starter. It "kicks out" after the engine had made about 3 revolutions. ..or am I missing something? Thanks all, Lester _______________________________________________ duncan at pondhop.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sun Jul 15 17:15:10 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 18:15:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] now starting problems.. In-Reply-To: <006501c7c735$6854cad0$38fe6070$@com> References: <8E2B212E-00E4-4C56-8AC1-BEF49A66A9DF@comcast.net> <1886460327.20070714164137@pacifier.com> <011501c7c67b$05c51e70$d280bc43@HP> <339B0081-E329-48A7-8248-116A58EFBC63@comcast.net> <5f00d9910707141907j2df12977s9b069d910f244dee@mail.gmail.com> <3592F41B-C2CB-4A64-8A92-86317CC59DAD@comcast.net> <544706CF-89E7-4C05-9AF9-C282325EFB7E@comcast.net> <006501c7c735$6854cad0$38fe6070$@com> Message-ID: <5C9E8028-B9EF-49BD-AF17-5E8A9261E49A@comcast.net> I know and that is the last resort.. it's that pesky push back that will do me in! ;-) Lester .. and don't forget that I drove the car for 30 min or so and parked it right before this began On Jul 15, 2007, at 6:10 PM, Duncan Sinclair wrote: > Will the car start with a push start ? > That would prove if it the starter or not. > > Duncan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: oldsaabguy [mailto:oldsaabguy at comcast.net] > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 6:06 PM > Cc: Spridgets List > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] now starting problems.. > > Ok I have checked the following and found them to be good: > > Battery voltage > > Battery connections > > Starter switch connections > > Plug gap > > Dwell > > Fuel > > Compression > > Spark, to include rotor, points, and coil > > In other words everything is fine. There is no problem .. > > > OTHER THAN THE CAR WON'T START!!! > > At present I am leaning towards the starter. It "kicks out" after > the engine had made about 3 revolutions. > > ..or am I missing something? > > Thanks all, > > Lester From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sun Jul 15 17:28:17 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 18:28:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] now starting problems.. In-Reply-To: <5C9E8028-B9EF-49BD-AF17-5E8A9261E49A@comcast.net> References: <8E2B212E-00E4-4C56-8AC1-BEF49A66A9DF@comcast.net> <1886460327.20070714164137@pacifier.com> <011501c7c67b$05c51e70$d280bc43@HP> <339B0081-E329-48A7-8248-116A58EFBC63@comcast.net> <5f00d9910707141907j2df12977s9b069d910f244dee@mail.gmail.com> <3592F41B-C2CB-4A64-8A92-86317CC59DAD@comcast.net> <544706CF-89E7-4C05-9AF9-C282325EFB7E@comcast.net> <006501c7c735$6854cad0$38fe6070$@com> <5C9E8028-B9EF-49BD-AF17-5E8A9261E49A@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5A6E83D8-99E0-46A7-AB3B-2406B8CA46D0@comcast.net> Just did a push start.. no so good. A little stumbling but no go.. ARRGGHGH!!!! Lester On Jul 15, 2007, at 6:15 PM, oldsaabguy wrote: > I know and that is the last resort.. it's that pesky push back that > will do me in! > > ;-) > > Lester > > .. and don't forget that I drove the car for 30 min or so and parked > it right before this began > > > On Jul 15, 2007, at 6:10 PM, Duncan Sinclair wrote: > >> Will the car start with a push start ? >> That would prove if it the starter or not. >> >> Duncan >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: oldsaabguy [mailto:oldsaabguy at comcast.net] >> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 6:06 PM >> Cc: Spridgets List >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] now starting problems.. >> >> Ok I have checked the following and found them to be good: >> >> Battery voltage >> >> Battery connections >> >> Starter switch connections >> >> Plug gap >> >> Dwell >> >> Fuel >> >> Compression >> >> Spark, to include rotor, points, and coil >> >> In other words everything is fine. There is no problem .. >> >> >> OTHER THAN THE CAR WON'T START!!! >> >> At present I am leaning towards the starter. It "kicks out" after >> the engine had made about 3 revolutions. >> >> ..or am I missing something? >> >> Thanks all, >> >> Lester From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 15 17:28:41 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 16:28:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Help with clutch problem... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <722859.44249.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- TMHEFFRON at aol.com wrote: > Hi List: > I'm having a problem - my clutch doesn't want to > fully disengage TuTone, Similar problem has been giving Peter and I fits on White Trash. The variable is a new Tilton clutch cylinder (a LOT of people have had trouble with this setup). I adjusted the master rod every which way possible. I found a longer slave rod, that didn't help. Clutch was bad 1st and 2nd practices at Elkhart SVRA race only when I really got the car honking. As soon as I backed off, all was fine. At one point I took a 30 second break behind a corner station and finished the session without incident. I bled it to the point of insanity, both at the slave and the master (you can do this on the Tilton). It was fine for the whole day on Saturday of the event. Put in new clutch just for shits-n-grins afterward, same thing, except it waited until the feature race at Blackhawk to act up, I ended up doing the last half of the feature and all of the Father's Day touring session in 4th gear. Of course, I got it home and all was perfect. I spoke to Rod at Spridgetech, he says to verify the WC flex line is a -3 AN, it is. I guess this doesn't help you much, but I'm entered in the same "WTF" sweepstakes at this point. I'm going to mod the mounting fixture we made for the Tilton setup to get more pedal travel, but I think 30 or 40 more clutch bleeds might be in order as well. I gave up on the Motul fluid, it was getting too expensive to bleed it at $18 a quart. See you at Elkhart, Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sun Jul 15 17:43:49 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 18:43:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] now starting problems.. In-Reply-To: <469A4D7F.31668.2011FCD@dmg.bossig.com> References: <8E2B212E-00E4-4C56-8AC1-BEF49A66A9DF@comcast.net>, <5C9E8028-B9EF-49BD-AF17-5E8A9261E49A@comcast.net>, <5A6E83D8-99E0-46A7-AB3B-2406B8CA46D0@comcast.net> <469A4D7F.31668.2011FCD@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <0F144C4F-F4F8-4DF6-9B66-FBC2209A9C5C@comcast.net> Hmm.. i guess that is the next step isn't it.. lesse, remove the valve cover and check timing mark to rocking valves right? Lester On Jul 15, 2007, at 6:38 PM, Dave G. wrote: > > > On 15 Jul 2007 at 18:28, oldsaabguy wrote: > >>> Just did a push start.. no so good. A little stumbling but no go.. > > You didn't mention if you had made sure the timing hasn't slipped.... > - > Dave G > '65 MKIII Sprite From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 15 17:51:30 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 17:51:30 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] now starting problems.. In-Reply-To: <0F144C4F-F4F8-4DF6-9B66-FBC2209A9C5C@comcast.net> References: <8E2B212E-00E4-4C56-8AC1-BEF49A66A9DF@comcast.net> <5C9E8028-B9EF-49BD-AF17-5E8A9261E49A@comcast.net> <5A6E83D8-99E0-46A7-AB3B-2406B8CA46D0@comcast.net> <469A4D7F.31668.2011FCD@dmg.bossig.com> <0F144C4F-F4F8-4DF6-9B66-FBC2209A9C5C@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707151651t137b4442u58ab5ea2439603b3@mail.gmail.com> Ground strap? The block needs to be grounded properly for starter and/or ignition to work properly. Battery condition? Sometimes a battery will show 12 or so volts at rest and then crap out when you put a load on it. This is easy to test: use some jumper cables and another car to try. Next, the starter should turn the motor over for a while, until the battery gets really low. Fix this next. Push starting is good but only works if the car is timed and tuned enough to run reasonably well. If it is a new motor I like to pull the plugs and let the starter turn over until the oil pressure builds enough to register on the gauge. You didn't put a bunch of two-stoke oil in the tank, did you? Cheers, Derf From dmg at bossig.com Sun Jul 15 18:46:52 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 17:46:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] now starting problems.. In-Reply-To: <0F144C4F-F4F8-4DF6-9B66-FBC2209A9C5C@comcast.net> References: <8E2B212E-00E4-4C56-8AC1-BEF49A66A9DF@comcast.net>, <469A4D7F.31668.2011FCD@dmg.bossig.com>, <0F144C4F-F4F8-4DF6-9B66-FBC2209A9C5C@comcast.net> Message-ID: <469A5D8C.2821.23FD237@dmg.bossig.com> (Counting from the radiator)... Rockers 1 & 2 loose and rockers 7&8 tight, shoulc coincide with #1 piston being at TDC, the mark on the pullet should line up with the big pointer and the distributor rotor should be pointing in the direction of cylinder #1. And Derf also makes some good points.... Check your battery voltage while the starter is engaged... An initial frop of a few milliseconds to around 6V is normal but it should quickly come up to around 11V or so... Frank?? On 15 Jul 2007 at 18:43, oldsaabguy wrote: >> Hmm.. i guess that is the next step isn't it.. lesse, remove the >> valve cover and check timing mark to rocking valves right? - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 15 19:12:14 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 19:12:14 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Gauges F/S/T. See pic. Make offer. Message-ID: <5f00d9910707151812l28304b68rbbef9f90ecb6ac28@mail.gmail.com> http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/dovco/MGStuff/gauges.jpg LMK if you want one, some, or all. Got something to trade? OK. Anyone have some VDO gauges to trade? Ed, you need these, no? From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Sun Jul 15 20:55:26 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:55:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Gauges F/S/T. See pic. Make offer. References: <5f00d9910707151812l28304b68rbbef9f90ecb6ac28@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00d801c7c754$c3cd2410$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> Not mr, Derf. Ed From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Sun Jul 15 21:14:13 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:14:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] now starting problems.. References: <8E2B212E-00E4-4C56-8AC1-BEF49A66A9DF@comcast.net>, <469A4D7F.31668.2011FCD@dmg.bossig.com>, <0F144C4F-F4F8-4DF6-9B66-FBC2209A9C5C@comcast.net> <469A5D8C.2821.23FD237@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <00de01c7c757$63573410$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> Almost right, Dave. As I have already told Lester, the battery needs to be "Load Tested". Although your method "could" be a good indicator, Volts ( tho related) are not the same as AMPERAGE. A simple Battery Tester would do it, tho $30 or so for the tester instrument that a shadetree/hobbyist MIGHT use 1 every other year would seem like a lot of bucks for something to sit in a cabinet or drawer. I get LOTS of cars in that have sat for 3-4 years. I don't even get my 30 year old Tester out. Battery IS junk. Sure you could empty acid and fill with new acid, throw on a HI amp charger, empty again and re-fill again and then repeat. And you MIGHT get a battery to last a season but I doubt it. Batteries for Spridgets are cheaper than the Tester!! FYI & FWIW, tester is Milton Model 1260 (first time it's been outta drawer in 4 or 5 years). Ed From pythias at pacifier.com Sun Jul 15 21:41:59 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:41:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Gauges F/S/T. See pic. Make offer. In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707151812l28304b68rbbef9f90ecb6ac28@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910707151812l28304b68rbbef9f90ecb6ac28@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1796743058.20070715204159@pacifier.com> Hello derf, i'm looking for a 4" negative ground tach.. and a 4" speedo for a 3.9 rear end... anything there?? -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite Where there's a will, I want to be in it. From smarc at smarc.net Sun Jul 15 23:26:32 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 01:26:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Making Progress! Message-ID: <469B0188.6090604@smarc.net> Well, my midget project is getting there... As of today it's got a new water pump, all new hoses, new fan belt. I got a complete intake and dual HS2 set up off ebay. Actually pretty nice, quite clean, they had new floats, jets, & new needle valves, but they were of the Grose jet type. I've heard bad stuff about Grose jets, but no first hand experience. Seems like the carbs must have been shipped with the dashpot oil still in them cause it was everywhere. Cleaned 'em up, went to check float hight. Plastic floats, don't appear to be any adjustment - do you need to shim the valves to adjust? I got them bolted on, linkage more or less adjusted, and plumbed. The car doesn't have the proper fuel pump - it's an aftermarket type that develops too much pressure. The needle valves in the SU's aren't up to the task. But I let the bowls fill up, then disconnected the pump. Gave it some choke and cranked it and it started right up, idled pretty smooth. Car was desmogged when I got it. I'm unsure how to plumb the bits that are left. I have a small canister (oil separator?) that comes off the timing cover. There is a hose from that that went to the air cleaner on the weber, which is not connected to anything now. There is a hose from the rocker cover that hangs below the car like a road draft tube... The charcoal cannister is missing, although I think I have one around the shop somewhere. The vent line from the fuel tank to the cannister is not connected to anything. Finally, the vent lines from the carbs are not connected to anything. -- Marc From grday at btinternet.com Mon Jul 16 01:32:06 2007 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 08:32:06 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] now starting problems.. References: <8E2B212E-00E4-4C56-8AC1-BEF49A66A9DF@comcast.net><1886460327.20070714164137@pacifier.com><011501c7c67b$05c51e70$d280bc43@HP><339B0081-E329-48A7-8248-116A58EFBC63@comcast.net><5f00d9910707141907j2df12977s9b069d910f244dee@mail.gmail.com><3592F41B-C2CB-4A64-8A92-86317CC59DAD@comcast.net> <544706CF-89E7-4C05-9AF9-C282325EFB7E@comcast.net> Message-ID: <001201c7c77b$69cd8550$c8ce8556@tairswork> Broken or weak bendix spring, worn bendix teeth and / or worn flywheel teeth. Bendix oiled / sh*tted up. Unlikely to be voltage at starter as it would appear to be initially working. GRD ----- Original Message ----- From: "oldsaabguy" Cc: "Spridgets List" Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 12:05 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] now starting problems.. > Ok I have checked the following and found them to be good: > > Battery voltage > > Battery connections > > Starter switch connections > > Plug gap > > Dwell > > Fuel > > Compression > > Spark, to include rotor, points, and coil > > In other words everything is fine. There is no problem .. > > > OTHER THAN THE CAR WON'T START!!! > > At present I am leaning towards the starter. It "kicks out" after > the engine had made about 3 revolutions. > > ..or am I missing something? > > Thanks all, > > Lester > _______________________________________________ > grday at btinternet.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dmeadow at juno.com Mon Jul 16 04:29:22 2007 From: dmeadow at juno.com (dmeadow at juno.com) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 05:29:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Thread count on rear axles Message-ID: <20070716.052922.2600.0.dmeadow@juno.com> Anyone know the thread count on the rear axle where the big nut screws on? I've bunged mine up and I'm having trouble getting the right number on my thread file. My thread gauge only goes to 12, so I know it is less than that. Thanks! From pilotrob at webtv.net Mon Jul 16 05:16:30 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:16:30 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Making Progress! Message-ID: Marc.... the plastic floats are sometimes referred to as "non-adjustable". I think they came along with emissions carbs but I could be wrong. I got rid of the plastic floats my PO'd '74 Midget came with in favor of the earlier adjustable floats, but if I recall... there should be two holes in the plastic float arms where they mount on the pin wherein they allow for fuel level to some extent and yes, as I recall, the floats can be shimmed with washers. If I'm wrong on the foregoing, I'm sure some one more knowledgeable will most likely pipe up and (re)educate us both, accordingly. Your non-emissions setup is what I used to run on my '74, when I returned it to a non- emissions state sans air pump, charcoal cannister and all that crap. Additionally, I snipped off the end of the valve cover port, thus opening it up as another crankcase pressure reliever and piped that one to the rear carb air cleaner. Additionally, I substituted an after- market "vented" fuel cap in place of the stock non-vented type the car came with. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From jlaird237 at cox.net Mon Jul 16 06:27:09 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 07:27:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help, I broke it and can't fix it. Message-ID: <000601c7c7a4$a167b200$6401a8c0@personal> I seems I never put the bottom tranny mount bolts in. Could not figure what size and I could find nothing in my stash that seemed to fit. That just maybe the cause of my clutch judder, maybe. So what the heck size bolt goes in there? Everything I have is either too big or too small in diameter. Or even better, does anyone have a couple that they know fit? ie tested in the bottom tranny mount holes for proper size. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jul 16 07:21:36 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 9:21:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] ***Re: recover DVD - no LBC*** Message-ID: <20070716132136.WJHU5730.tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Much thanks to all who offered suggestions and to the individual who offered to look at the disk for me. Much to my amazement, I was able to recover the video, sort of. I downloaded a shareware utility (http://www.isobuster.com/cdrecovery.php) and it was able to see the disk, sort of. Then I asked it to search for lost files and it found two six hundred and some mb files and ... the free trial was clipped of extract functionality ... so I paid the thirty and a bit dollars ... and much to my pleasant surprise, I had a video. But it didn't work quite right. Their tips and tricks suggested running the video through some other software (VideoReDo). Got the trial version. Ran the 2 videos through it and I now have the videos in a state that my own software can recognize. The audio is out of sync with the video, but I can make that better. Robert D. The couple who became the bride and groom can be seen here: http://www.subpop.com/artists/handsome_furs > Robert Duquette wrote: > > Oh knowledgeable gurus. > > I was at a wedding yesterday. I now find that one side of the > recordable > dvd from my video camera isn't readable from the download > program. I can > see some files when I use windows explorer. > > A google tells me that there is software out there to do > recoveries. Does > anyone have any experience with any of them? > > > Thanks! > Robert D From TMHEFFRON at aol.com Mon Jul 16 08:25:16 2007 From: TMHEFFRON at aol.com (TMHEFFRON at aol.com) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:25:16 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Help with clutch problem... Message-ID: In a message dated 7/15/2007 5:22:30 PM Central Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: Disc stuck? Disc in backward? How much travel are you getting at the clutch lever? Hi Derf: The disc isn't stuck - it will drag medium-light with clutch fully depressed and engine running - the car will creep forward unless foot is on the brake. Obviously you can't get first gear this way unless you start the car with the rear on a jack and then let it down. I'm thinking that may be an inconvenient way to drive the car in the heavy stop-and-go traffic situations we have here in Chicagoland. I don't think it's in backward - I had several folks at Flounderpalooza look it over before I bolted the trans to the engine. It appears I'm getting about 1/2 to 3/4 inch travel at the clutch lever. Thanks for asking. TuTone ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour From TMHEFFRON at aol.com Mon Jul 16 08:35:13 2007 From: TMHEFFRON at aol.com (TMHEFFRON at aol.com) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:35:13 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Help with clutch problem... Message-ID: In a message dated 7/15/2007 6:31:55 PM Central Daylight Time, soavero at yahoo.com writes: TuTone, Similar problem has been giving Peter and I fits on White Trash. The variable is a new Tilton clutch cylinder (a LOT of people have had trouble with this setup). I adjusted the master rod every which way possible. I found a longer slave rod, that didn't help. Clutch was bad 1st and 2nd practices at Elkhart SVRA race only when I really got the car honking. As soon as I backed off, all was fine. At one point I took a 30 second break behind a corner station and finished the session without incident. I bled it to the point of insanity, both at the slave and the master (you can do this on the Tilton). It was fine for the whole day on Saturday of the event. Put in new clutch just for shits-n-grins afterward, same thing, except it waited until the feature race at Blackhawk to act up, I ended up doing the last half of the feature and all of the Father's Day touring session in 4th gear. Of course, I got it home and all was perfect. I spoke to Rod at Spridgetech, he says to verify the WC flex line is a -3 AN, it is. I guess this doesn't help you much, but I'm entered in the same "WTF" sweepstakes at this point. I'm going to mod the mounting fixture we made for the Tilton setup to get more pedal travel, but I think 30 or 40 more clutch bleeds might be in order as well. I gave up on the Motul fluid, it was getting too expensive to bleed it at $18 a quart. See you at Elkhart, Ron Hi Ron: I agree the larger flex line is not helpful, and the one I had was the next diameter larger than -3 AN. That's why I went back to the known good 1098 slave w/ steel line. The pedal feels much more solid. I've gone through vast quantities of brake fluid, used all the bleeding techniques I know including the rented pressure bleeder pressurizing from the slave toward the master. I'm about down to buying my brake fluid in 55 gallon drums from Kresge's, having started with Mutul, descending to Prestone, thence to some of the more obscure off-brand fluids. Still hoping to see you at Elkhart with my Sprite - there will be last-ditch bleed sessions between work schedule before the departure deadline. TuTone ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jul 16 09:05:45 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 09:05:45 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Help with clutch problem... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910707160805u42e555fg1df7b7f52c9b3708@mail.gmail.com> You should be getting more travel, I think. 1/2-3/4 inches isn't enough, IIRC. Could there be something obstructing the slave piston travel? Maybe it isn't retracting enough to get a full range of motion. I think you would feel abnormal piston travel in the master, but the slave should travel more than 3/4", no? Anyone know the normal travel range of the slave piston? Cheers, Derf From racerbob70 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 16 09:39:23 2007 From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 08:39:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Help with clutch problem... In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707160805u42e555fg1df7b7f52c9b3708@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070716153923.43374.qmail@web51601.mail.re2.yahoo.com> --- derf wrote: >> Anyone know the normal travel range of the slave > piston? > Cheers, > Derf > 5/8 to 3/4 inch....... ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469 From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jul 16 09:53:05 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:53:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help with clutch problem... References: <20070716153923.43374.qmail@web51601.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000f01c7c7c1$66c6f940$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >>> Anyone know the normal travel range of the slave >> piston? > 5/8 to 3/4 inch....... So it sounds as if the travel of the piston is in the right range. That would leave slop in the pivot, bent arm, wrong arm for the application, bad/worn throwout, defective cover, and other worn parts as logical suspects. From TMHEFFRON at aol.com Mon Jul 16 09:58:17 2007 From: TMHEFFRON at aol.com (TMHEFFRON at aol.com) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:58:17 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Help with clutch problem... Message-ID: In a message dated 7/16/2007 10:53:20 AM Central Daylight Time, dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes: Anyone know the normal travel range of the slave >> piston? > 5/8 to 3/4 inch....... So it sounds as if the travel of the piston is in the right range. That would leave slop in the pivot, bent arm, wrong arm for the application, bad/worn throwout, defective cover, and other worn parts as logical suspects. Hi David: Pressure plate - clutch disc and TO bearing are all new - didn't seem to be any slop in the pivot - this is the same transmission that was working just fine with 1098 clutch setup - do you need to change pivot arm for change to 1275 clutch? Would it be worth it to try and take almost all the free play out at the master? TIA. TuTone ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Jul 16 10:03:44 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:03:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help with clutch problem... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002b01c7c7c2$e490b4a0$adb21de0$@com> Could very well be the wrong fork lever. Did that have a 1098 clutch in it before, and a 1275 in it now? There are some different fork levers. Paul A knows what's what. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of TMHEFFRON at aol.com Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 10:58 AM To: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Help with clutch problem... In a message dated 7/16/2007 10:53:20 AM Central Daylight Time, dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes: Anyone know the normal travel range of the slave >> piston? > 5/8 to 3/4 inch....... So it sounds as if the travel of the piston is in the right range. That would leave slop in the pivot, bent arm, wrong arm for the application, bad/worn throwout, defective cover, and other worn parts as logical suspects. From TMHEFFRON at aol.com Mon Jul 16 10:23:37 2007 From: TMHEFFRON at aol.com (TMHEFFRON at aol.com) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:23:37 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Help with clutch problem... Message-ID: In a message dated 7/16/2007 11:04:06 AM Central Daylight Time, wsthompson at thicko.com writes: Could very well be the wrong fork lever. Did that have a 1098 clutch in it before, and a 1275 in it now? There are some different fork levers. Paul A knows what's what. HI Flounder: Yes, it had 1098 clutch before - and 1275 now. I didn't think the fork lever needed to be changed - but if it does it wasn't and that may explain the problem. TuTone ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Mon Jul 16 10:41:36 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:41:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help with clutch problem... References: Message-ID: <005601c7c7c8$2dacbb70$6501a8c0@actualshop> TuTone: My Parts Catalogue AKM 0036 Says 22G68Clutch Withdrawal Lever 1098-175cc Ed From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Mon Jul 16 10:53:54 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:53:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help with clutch problem... References: <005601c7c7c8$2dacbb70$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <006a01c7c7c9$e589b670$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> Correction!!! 1275cc Was in a hurry-sorry From jlaird237 at cox.net Mon Jul 16 11:35:51 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:35:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tranns bolts Message-ID: <000001c7c7cf$ecb3c2f0$6401a8c0@personal> Alan, You think these are too long 3 1/4 inchs? From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Jul 16 11:37:05 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:37:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] License plate bracket, before it goes to ebay $25 shipped, OBO In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707090627m36a260c5kf6989f41e49aecf4@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910707090627m36a260c5kf6989f41e49aecf4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: These also work well on low trailers. Got one on my dual jet ski trailer Sorry to take so long to respond, been in Galveston for over a week with no internet access. Brad On 7/9/07, derf wrote: > This is from a RB car but can be used to replace the unit on late CB > cars. This is plug and play if you want to remove the bumpers on late > CBs that had the license plate lights in the bumpers. > Condition is good, not a show winner, but good for a daily driver. > Metal very good, chrome good, lenses good, electrical good, rubber > fair. The lenses on these form the base for the bulb socket and these > lenses are both good in that respect. Many you find will be cracked > or broken in the bulb mounting area. > Of course you can also use this on a Spitfidget (RB car). > > Pic: > http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/dovco/MGStuff/rear3.jpg?t=1183987572 > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com From bberlin at chubb.com Mon Jul 16 13:11:23 2007 From: bberlin at chubb.com (bberlin at chubb.com) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:11:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bruce Berlin/ChubbMail is out of the office. Message-ID: I will be out of the office starting 07/16/2007 and will not return until 07/23/2007. If this is urgent, please get in touch with Peter McKeon at 908 903-2038. Thanks, Bruce Thanks, Bruce From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU Mon Jul 16 13:21:31 2007 From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:21:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake line lengths Message-ID: Hi, I need to purchase brake lines and would like to do so w/o removing the old ones first to speed the process. Does anyone have an idea of the line lengths necessary for a '79 midget? Especially the line from the pressure switch to the RH/ Passenger side? That appears to be the longest. Thanks, -m From mark at nashvilletn.org Mon Jul 16 13:31:41 2007 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 14:31:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Seats -- Tim Kruso Message-ID: <017501c7c7df$f3d5ad90$8500a8c0@CT> Does anybody have any experience with Tim Kruso in Dayton Ohio? He makes and installs custom seat covers for rods and Brit cars. Mark Nashville http://www.ArrestMeRed.com From racerbob70 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 16 14:06:32 2007 From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 13:06:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Help with clutch problem... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <229787.21140.qm@web51606.mail.re2.yahoo.com> The clutch throwout bearing is different because of the different pressure plates. You must use a 1275 T/O on a 1275 pressure plate.......Clutch forks are the same. If you replaced the T/O bearing perhaps it was the wrong one....... --- TMHEFFRON at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 7/16/2007 10:53:20 AM Central > Daylight Time, > dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes: > > Anyone know the normal travel range of the slave > >> piston? > > > 5/8 to 3/4 inch....... > > So it sounds as if the travel of the piston is in > the right range. That > would leave slop in the pivot, bent arm, wrong arm > for the application, > bad/worn throwout, defective cover, and other worn > parts as logical > suspects. > > > > Hi David: > > Pressure plate - clutch disc and TO bearing are all > new - didn't seem to be > any slop in the pivot - this is the same > transmission that was working just > fine with 1098 clutch setup - do you need to change > pivot arm for change to > 1275 clutch? Would it be worth it to try and take > almost all the free play out > at the master? TIA. > > TuTone > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Jul 16 14:24:08 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 13:24:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] e-bay uk goodies Message-ID: <000801c7c7e7$44141c90$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Here are a couple of bargains from E-Bay UK listed as parts for an Austin A35. I can tell you for sure these fit Sprites. item #: 160136729885 used front hubs item #: 330146902419 front a-pan even with shipping, packing, and conversion rate, these are a bargain at the moment. Glen Byrns From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Mon Jul 16 15:29:24 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 14:29:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Help with clutch problem... References: Message-ID: <002901c7c7f0$62dbd100$f675fea9@p0k7l8> TO arm seems to be the same on 1098 vs 1275. On the 1098 vs 1275 TO bearing, it's a difference in forward projection of the bearing surface on the TO bearing. 1275 has a greater projection than does the 1098 and the 1098 greater than the 948. That might be the problem, but the TO push rod might be short, too. FWIW. Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Help with clutch problem... > In a message dated 7/16/2007 11:04:06 AM Central Daylight Time, > wsthompson at thicko.com writes: > > Could very well be the wrong fork lever. Did that have a 1098 clutch in it > before, and a 1275 in it now? > > There are some different fork levers. Paul A knows what's what. > > > HI Flounder: > > Yes, it had 1098 clutch before - and 1275 now. I didn't think the fork > lever needed to be changed - but if it does it wasn't and that may explain the > problem. > > TuTone From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Mon Jul 16 15:38:42 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:38:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] e-bay uk goodies References: <000801c7c7e7$44141c90$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <03e701c7c7f1$b08a5510$6501a8c0@actualshop> He also has a tach drive denerator, Glen!! I have already asked if he will ship to US and will post hid reply (tomorrow, i'll bet!!) From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Mon Jul 16 18:16:52 2007 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 17:16:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake line lengths Message-ID: <1c73401c7c807$c65209e0$0e6a010a@mail2world.com> Mark, I have no idea of the lengths. What I did was buy the brake line kit from Moss. All the tubes are the correct length, with the correct fittings and flares. They're also Cupro-Nickel, so they're easy to bend, won't rust like steel, and won't fatigue like pure copper. I've had them in my 1500 for a few years now with no problems. HTH -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Mark A. O'Neil [mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU] Sent: 7/16/2007 3:21:31 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Brake line lengths Hi, I need to purchase brake lines and would like to do so w/o removing the old ones first to speed the process. Does anyone have an idea of the line lengths necessary for a '79 midget? Especially the line from the pressure switch to the RH/ Passenger side? That appears to be the longest. Thanks, -m _ From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Mon Jul 16 18:20:11 2007 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 17:20:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Making Progress! Message-ID: <1c81201c7c808$3d445350$0e6a010a@mail2world.com> If they're anything like the later HS4's I have on my 1500, then the float height for the plastic floats is set by shimming the needle valve. There are small brass washers that are used, and Joe Curto among others should carry them. -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Robert E. Shlafer [pilotrob at webtv.net] Sent: 7/16/2007 7:16:30 AM To: smarc at smarc.net;spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Making Progress! Marc.... the plastic floats are sometimes referred to as "non-adjustable". I think they came along with emissions carbs but I could be wrong. I got rid of the plastic floats my PO'd '74 Midget came with in favor of the earlier adjustable floats, but if I recall... there should be two holes in the plastic float arms where they mount on the pin wherein they allow for fuel level to some extent and yes, as I recall, the floats can be shimmed with washers. If I'm wrong on the foregoing, I'm sure some one more knowledgeable will most likely pipe up and (re)educate us both, accordingly. From dwoerpel at wi.net Mon Jul 16 18:29:45 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:29:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bonnet support shoulder bolts Message-ID: <469C0D79.5050005@wi.net> OK, ok.....this is an Bugeye originality question that came up over a few cold ones the other night. What markings were on the original shoulder bolts that attach the bonnet to the upper part of the bonnet support rails. They are 1/2" hex head 1/4 x 28, Part # 14A 4705. The ones you can order have no markings. If anyone can enlighten us on this or has a picture of an original one we would appreciate it. Hopefully see some of you at Elkhart Lake this weekend. Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Jul 16 18:34:33 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:34:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Installing fuel pump Message-ID: <205cef430707161734v4bace5a5j9c1b0c21135892c7@mail.gmail.com> Frank & List, I installed that electric fuel pump you recommended (I know I should not run the pump while dry) I turned on the ignition key and you can hear the pump pumping but after less than a minuet I don't see fuel in the see through filter. I was afraid to run it for the whole minute because I can damage the pump if I dry so I thought the fuel gauge was not reading correctly and I was out of gas (when I turn the key the gauge jumps from empty to 1/4 tank ) so I poured 1/2 a gallon of gas into the tank and tried it again but still no fuel. Before I remove the gas tank and fuel line and blow air into the line to clear any possible obstacles do you have another suggestions? Should I pour some gas into a glass container and put the end of the pump hose into it to prime the pump? I was thinking if there is a clog that would explain why the previous pump worked as I drove down the street the other day and then just shut off. Thanks Again, Linda 62 California Sprite "Pinky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner From cfchrist at earthlink.net Mon Jul 16 18:36:13 2007 From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:36:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bonnet support shoulder bolts Message-ID: <15309113.1184632573052.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net> try markings wit an "R" centered in the bolt head! how many ya need! i have replated bolts from numerous cas i've taken apart! chuck saab 93F 251 -----Original Message----- >From: David Woerpel >Sent: Jul 16, 2007 8:29 PM >To: Spridgets >Subject: [Spridgets] Bonnet support shoulder bolts > >OK, ok.....this is an Bugeye originality question that came up over a >few cold ones the other night. What markings were on the original >shoulder bolts that attach the bonnet to the upper part of the bonnet >support rails. They are 1/2" hex head 1/4 x 28, Part # 14A 4705. The >ones you can order have no markings. If anyone can enlighten us on this >or has a picture of an original one we would appreciate it. > >Hopefully see some of you at Elkhart Lake this weekend. > >Dave >59 :{) >59 MGA 1500 >05 MCS >_______________________________________________ >cfchrist at earthlink.net > >Edit your replies > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jul 16 18:45:58 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:45:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Installing fuel pump In-Reply-To: <205cef430707161734v4bace5a5j9c1b0c21135892c7@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430707161734v4bace5a5j9c1b0c21135892c7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <469C1146.8050206@comcast.net> Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Frank & List, > I installed that electric fuel pump you recommended (I know I should not > run the pump while dry) I turned on the ignition key and you can > hear the pump pumping but after less than a minuet I don't see fuel in > the see through filter. Linda, are you sure it is hooked up correct? Inlet/outlet or "Flow" arrow and not hooked up backwards? Pull the line off the carb and switch it on, put the hose close to your cheek or inside your arm and see if you can feel air coming out of the pipe. The tank or pipe to the carbs might have a clog. At the fuel pump, pull off each hose, remove the gas cap and disconnect the hose at the carbs, blow thru each hose. You should hear the gas in the tank bubble, and just air should come out of the carb to pump hose. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jul 16 18:51:26 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:51:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Rally Midget sold. Message-ID: <469C128E.1080803@comcast.net> To the little girl down the lane ;) Yes, my wife and I used to babysit little Jody down the road, as she grew up, she babysat our kids. Now she just bought the BABE rally midget. Of course I had to give her a lifetime of free consulting about what it may need in the future and tell her husband how to fix it if it needs fixin. A Midget that needs fixin! Nah. Now I only have top get rid of a white Midget and the A40. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Jul 16 18:56:28 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:56:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Installing fuel pump In-Reply-To: <469C1146.8050206@comcast.net> References: <205cef430707161734v4bace5a5j9c1b0c21135892c7@mail.gmail.com> <469C1146.8050206@comcast.net> Message-ID: <205cef430707161756rf6e322u36382ec2ca526145@mail.gmail.com> I'll try it : ) Lin On 7/16/07, Frank Clarici wrote: > > Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > Frank & List, > > I installed that electric fuel pump you recommended (I know I should not > > run the pump while dry) I turned on the ignition key and you can > > hear the pump pumping but after less than a minuet I don't see fuel in > > the see through filter. > > Linda, are you sure it is hooked up correct? > Inlet/outlet or "Flow" arrow and not hooked up backwards? > Pull the line off the carb and switch it on, put the hose close to your > cheek or inside your arm and see if you can feel air coming out of the > pipe. The tank or pipe to the carbs might have a clog. > At the fuel pump, pull off each hose, remove the gas cap and disconnect > the hose at the carbs, blow thru each hose. You should hear the gas in > the tank bubble, and just air should come out of the carb to pump hose. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Jul 16 19:01:46 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:01:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Leaf springs In-Reply-To: <469A4476.6070606@snet.net> References: <205cef430707121207r78915b97r3ff9a80d190e22d2@mail.gmail.com> <469A4476.6070606@snet.net> Message-ID: <205cef430707161801u1c57ea8fmfef6c25d4001c2b9@mail.gmail.com> Jim, Good toe hear as I am suspecting my Sprite is a little low in the first place so perhaps I will just get new leaf springs and that should do the trick if the Libres still rub I'll live with different wheels like Panasports of similar. What are panhard rods? Lin On 7/15/07, Jim Juhas wrote: > > Linda: > > Although I have the half elliptical version, on our 1966 Sprite, I have > 175/60x13 tires on Minitators. My springs were sagging and new ones > brought it up to level height and also added lateral stability (I also > used the red urethane bushings throughout) and this, along with rolling > the lip like has been described, I eliminated almost all tire rub. It > will occur infrequently if we have a full load of stuff and 2 people and > hard turns, but for most driving it's gone. And the car is level. The > next step will be a panhard rod when I get around to it. Perhaps these > changes might be as effective on the quarter-elliptical setup. > > Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > >Frank & List, > >What type of leaf springs or additional components do I order to jack up > the > >rear of my MKII Sprite so my tires on my mags (American Racing Libre > wheels) > >do not rub on the square fenders? With a 155 tire I only have a 1/2 > >clearance can't I weld up or add to the leaf springs or buy something to > get > >the rear higher? Don't they have something used on the racing Sprites for > >this? > >Lin > >_______________________________________________ > >james.f.juhas at snet.net From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU Mon Jul 16 19:03:11 2007 From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:03:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake line lengths In-Reply-To: <1c73401c7c807$c65209e0$0e6a010a@mail2world.com> References: <1c73401c7c807$c65209e0$0e6a010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: On Jul 16, 2007, at 8:16 PM, Chris King wrote: > > Mark, > > I have no idea of the lengths. What I did was buy the brake line > kit from Moss. All the tubes are the correct length, with the > correct fittings and flares. They're also Cupro-Nickel, so they're > easy to bend, won't rust like steel, and won't fatigue like pure > copper. I've had them in my 1500 for a few years now with no problems. > > HTH > > -=Chris Thanks Chris. I saw those lines from Moss and am glad to hear they are good and easy to work with. A bit pricey though compared to steel? I took a close look and only /need/ to replace the short left side line. So I think I will do that and the hoses for now on and save the rest of the lines for later this winter. -m From thcollin at mtu.edu Mon Jul 16 19:04:09 2007 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:04:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Installing fuel pump In-Reply-To: <469C1146.8050206@comcast.net> References: <205cef430707161734v4bace5a5j9c1b0c21135892c7@mail.gmail.com> <469C1146.8050206@comcast.net> Message-ID: <60313l$fmn0k@email.mtu.edu> >Pull the line off the carb and switch it on, put the hose close to your >cheek or inside your arm and see if you can feel air coming out of the >pipe. If you do this, set up your video camera first to capture the moment. Why not just put a balloon on the end and see if you catch any air or gas? Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Mon Jul 16 19:16:32 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:16:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake? In-Reply-To: <469C0D79.5050005@wi.net> Message-ID: <200707170113.l6H1DLjC021776@ms-smtp-03.rdc-kc.rr.com> What is this brouhaha at Elkhart Lake this weekend that keeps popping up? Thanks Chris 66 MKIII Sprite Brookfield, WI -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Woerpel Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 7:30 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Bonnet support shoulder bolts OK, ok.....this is an Bugeye originality question that came up over a few cold ones the other night. What markings were on the original shoulder bolts that attach the bonnet to the upper part of the bonnet support rails. They are 1/2" hex head 1/4 x 28, Part # 14A 4705. The ones you can order have no markings. If anyone can enlighten us on this or has a picture of an original one we would appreciate it. Hopefully see some of you at Elkhart Lake this weekend. Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jul 16 19:23:56 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:23:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake? In-Reply-To: <200707170113.l6H1DLjC021776@ms-smtp-03.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <250537.60628.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Chris Manuel wrote: > What is this brouhaha at Elkhart Lake this weekend > that keeps popping up? http://www.roadamerica.com/races_bric.htm Amazing event to watch. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow From Miniac7 at aol.com Mon Jul 16 19:23:30 2007 From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:23:30 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake? Message-ID: _Click here: Road America - Road Racing at its Best_ (http://www.roadamerica.com/) ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jul 16 19:30:06 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:30:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Installing fuel pump In-Reply-To: <60313l$fmn0k@email.mtu.edu> References: <205cef430707161734v4bace5a5j9c1b0c21135892c7@mail.gmail.com> <469C1146.8050206@comcast.net> <60313l$fmn0k@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <469C1B9E.8070509@comcast.net> Timothy H. Collins wrote: > >> Pull the line off the carb and switch it on, put the hose close to your >> cheek or inside your arm and see if you can feel air coming out of the >> pipe. > > If you do this, set up your video camera first to capture the moment. > Why not just put a balloon on the end and see if you catch any air or gas? But then it's no fun :) We all know as soon as you put the gas line up to your face, the gas will gush out. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 16 19:32:02 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:32:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake? References: <250537.60628.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <010d01c7c812$47fe6790$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" =============================== --- Chris Manuel wrote: > What is this brouhaha at Elkhart Lake this weekend > that keeps popping up? http://www.roadamerica.com/races_bric.htm Amazing event to watch. Ron ======================= Chris, IMHO, the best event all year at Road America. The one event each year that I will not miss. Anyone up for a meet-up? Say Saturday lunch above turn 8? Larry Daniels 79 MGB LE 60 Bugeye 67 Austin A60 Pickup (Ute) "You only need two tools: WD-40 and Duct Tape. If it doesn't move and should, use the WD-40. If it shouldn't move and does, use the duct tape." From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Jul 16 19:37:41 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:37:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake? In-Reply-To: <010d01c7c812$47fe6790$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <250537.60628.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <010d01c7c812$47fe6790$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <001001c7c813$14b3f3e0$3e1bdba0$@com> Sounds like a "homo club meeting". -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 8:32 PM To: Ron Soave; Chris Manuel; 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" =============================== --- Chris Manuel wrote: > What is this brouhaha at Elkhart Lake this weekend > that keeps popping up? http://www.roadamerica.com/races_bric.htm Amazing event to watch. Ron ======================= Chris, IMHO, the best event all year at Road America. The one event each year that I will not miss. Anyone up for a meet-up? Say Saturday lunch above turn 8? Larry Daniels 79 MGB LE 60 Bugeye 67 Austin A60 Pickup (Ute) "You only need two tools: WD-40 and Duct Tape. If it doesn't move and should, use the WD-40. If it shouldn't move and does, use the duct tape." From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 16 19:48:51 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:48:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake? References: <250537.60628.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <010d01c7c812$47fe6790$6401a8c0@Larry> <001001c7c813$14b3f3e0$3e1bdba0$@com> Message-ID: <012601c7c814$a1419780$6401a8c0@Larry> Nah, I'm bringing my better half and another couple, as well. Can you believe this -- they live less than an hour from RA, are car people and, yet, have never been there. I'll be at Siebken's Friday and Saturday night for the Concours and Saturday at the track. Flounder, you and Nancy gonna make it? Dave W., Chris M., et al, what say for a meet-up? Anybody else? LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: "'Larry Daniels'" ; "'Ron Soave'" ; "'Chris Manuel'" ; "'Spridgets'" Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 8:37 PM Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake? Sounds like a "homo club meeting". -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 8:32 PM To: Ron Soave; Chris Manuel; 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" =============================== --- Chris Manuel wrote: > What is this brouhaha at Elkhart Lake this weekend > that keeps popping up? http://www.roadamerica.com/races_bric.htm Amazing event to watch. Ron ======================= Chris, IMHO, the best event all year at Road America. The one event each year that I will not miss. Anyone up for a meet-up? Say Saturday lunch above turn 8? Larry Daniels 79 MGB LE 60 Bugeye 67 Austin A60 Pickup (Ute) "You only need two tools: WD-40 and Duct Tape. If it doesn't move and should, use the WD-40. If it shouldn't move and does, use the duct tape." From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jul 16 20:14:43 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:14:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake? In-Reply-To: <010d01c7c812$47fe6790$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <57099.46190.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dude, I didn't even ask 'cause I assumed we'd hook up for breakfast, right? Ron --- Larry Daniels wrote: > Chris, IMHO, the best event all year at Road > America. The one event each > year that I will not miss. > > Anyone up for a meet-up? Say Saturday lunch above > turn 8? > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Mon Jul 16 20:17:05 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:17:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake? In-Reply-To: <57099.46190.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <010d01c7c812$47fe6790$6401a8c0@Larry> <57099.46190.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0707161917x2435ee8egef2b82726c5bce9b@mail.gmail.com> Reacharound and no breakfast is really tacky. Just ask Severin. This event is killer. It's the only race event I ever feel underdressed for. On 7/16/07, Ron Soave wrote: > Dude, > I didn't even ask 'cause I assumed we'd hook up for > breakfast, right? > Ron > > > --- Larry Daniels wrote: > > Chris, IMHO, the best event all year at Road > > America. The one event each > > year that I will not miss. > > > > Anyone up for a meet-up? Say Saturday lunch above > > turn 8? > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Finding fabulous fares is fun. > Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. > http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 > _______________________________________________ > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jul 16 20:27:40 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:27:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake? In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0707161917x2435ee8egef2b82726c5bce9b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <291390.20088.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- "Flash." wrote: > This event is killer. It's the only race event I > ever feel underdressed for. We know you race Spec Miata, but sometimes there's just no getting around having to put your teeth in. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Jul 16 20:54:06 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:54:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake? In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0707161917x2435ee8egef2b82726c5bce9b@mail.gmail.com> References: <010d01c7c812$47fe6790$6401a8c0@Larry> <57099.46190.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <8a336b9d0707161917x2435ee8egef2b82726c5bce9b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000301c7c81d$bf6591e0$3e30b5a0$@com> Miata owners are famous for their "rusty trombone" work. Just ask Flash. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Flash. Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 9:17 PM To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake? Reacharound and no breakfast is really tacky. Just ask Severin. This event is killer. It's the only race event I ever feel underdressed for. On 7/16/07, Ron Soave wrote: > Dude, > I didn't even ask 'cause I assumed we'd hook up for > breakfast, right? > Ron From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Mon Jul 16 21:02:48 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:02:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake? In-Reply-To: <000301c7c81d$bf6591e0$3e30b5a0$@com> References: <010d01c7c812$47fe6790$6401a8c0@Larry> <57099.46190.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <8a336b9d0707161917x2435ee8egef2b82726c5bce9b@mail.gmail.com> <000301c7c81d$bf6591e0$3e30b5a0$@com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0707162002q664a39cfo3f4d29a689a1af14@mail.gmail.com> This from ol' Balloon knot Thompson. Here is a tip, when those classy gentleman at the BRIC ask you if you are interested in a teabag it isn't what you learned on the mean streets of Fond Du Lac. On 7/16/07, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > Miata owners are famous for their "rusty trombone" work. > Just ask Flash. > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > Flash. > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 9:17 PM > To: Spridget List > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake? > > Reacharound and no breakfast is really tacky. Just ask Severin. > > This event is killer. It's the only race event I ever feel underdressed > for. > > On 7/16/07, Ron Soave wrote: > > Dude, > > I didn't even ask 'cause I assumed we'd hook up for > > breakfast, right? > > Ron > > > > > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Jul 16 21:10:10 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:10:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake? In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0707162002q664a39cfo3f4d29a689a1af14@mail.gmail.com> References: <010d01c7c812$47fe6790$6401a8c0@Larry> <57099.46190.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <8a336b9d0707161917x2435ee8egef2b82726c5bce9b@mail.gmail.com> <000301c7c81d$bf6591e0$3e30b5a0$@com> <8a336b9d0707162002q664a39cfo3f4d29a689a1af14@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000401c7c81f$fe4ae110$fae0a330$@com> OK, reverse Blimpie boy. http://www.urbandictionary.com/daily.php for those of you following along without a scorecard... -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Flash. Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 10:03 PM To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake? This from ol' Balloon knot Thompson. Here is a tip, when those classy gentleman at the BRIC ask you if you are interested in a teabag it isn't what you learned on the mean streets of Fond Du Lac. On 7/16/07, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > Miata owners are famous for their "rusty trombone" work. > Just ask Flash. > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > Flash. > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 9:17 PM > To: Spridget List > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake? > > Reacharound and no breakfast is really tacky. Just ask Severin. > > This event is killer. It's the only race event I ever feel underdressed > for. > > On 7/16/07, Ron Soave wrote: > > Dude, > > I didn't even ask 'cause I assumed we'd hook up for > > breakfast, right? > > Ron > > > > > -- From james.f.juhas at snet.net Mon Jul 16 22:00:14 2007 From: james.f.juhas at snet.net (Jim Juhas) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 00:00:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Leaf springs In-Reply-To: <205cef430707161801u1c57ea8fmfef6c25d4001c2b9@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430707121207r78915b97r3ff9a80d190e22d2@mail.gmail.com> <469A4476.6070606@snet.net> <205cef430707161801u1c57ea8fmfef6c25d4001c2b9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <469C3ECE.1050602@snet.net> It's a link that anchors one end on the chassis and the other on the axle, laterally to the direction of travel. Its purpose is to eliminate any sideways movement. The link below is an explanation of an MGB installation. Spridgets are challenging in this regard because there are limited mounting points on the chassis/body. Winner's Circle sells one for Sprite racing applications, but it conflicts with normal exhaust system routing. http://www.mgcars.org.uk/v8_conversions/files/suspension/panhard.html Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Jim, > Good toe hear as I am suspecting my Sprite is a little low in the > first place so perhaps I will just get new leaf springs and that > should do the trick if the Libres still rub I'll live with different > wheels like Panasports of similar. > > What are panhard rods? > Lin > > > On 7/15/07, Jim Juhas > wrote: > > Linda: > > Although I have the half elliptical version, on our 1966 Sprite, I > have > 175/60x13 tires on Minitators. My springs were sagging and new ones > brought it up to level height and also added lateral stability (I also > used the red urethane bushings throughout) and this, along with > rolling > the lip like has been described, I eliminated almost all tire > rub. It > will occur infrequently if we have a full load of stuff and 2 > people and > hard turns, but for most driving it's gone. And the car is > level. The > next step will be a panhard rod when I get around to it. Perhaps > these > changes might be as effective on the quarter-elliptical setup. > > Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > >Frank & List, > >What type of leaf springs or additional components do I order to > jack up the > >rear of my MKII Sprite so my tires on my mags (American Racing > Libre wheels) > >do not rub on the square fenders? With a 155 tire I only have a 1/2 > >clearance can't I weld up or add to the leaf springs or buy > something to get > >the rear higher? Don't they have something used on the racing > Sprites for > >this? > >Lin > >_______________________________________________ > >james.f.juhas at snet.net From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jul 17 05:22:53 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 06:22:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Leaf springs References: <205cef430707121207r78915b97r3ff9a80d190e22d2@mail.gmail.com><469A4476.6070606@snet.net><205cef430707161801u1c57ea8fmfef6c25d4001c2b9@mail.gmail.com> <469C3ECE.1050602@snet.net> Message-ID: <029301c7c864$d1a89680$0401a8c0@midget> > It's a link that anchors one end on the chassis and the other on the > axle, laterally to the direction of travel. Its purpose is to eliminate > any sideways movement. The link below is an explanation of an MGB > installation. Spridgets are challenging in this regard because there > are limited mounting points on the chassis/body. Winner's Circle sells > one for Sprite racing applications, but it conflicts with normal exhaust > system routing. And Speedwellengineering.com sells one that they claim does NOT conflict with the exhaust. http://www.speedwellengineering.com/rearsusp.html From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jul 17 05:27:27 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 06:27:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake? References: <010d01c7c812$47fe6790$6401a8c0@Larry><57099.46190.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com><8a336b9d0707161917x2435ee8egef2b82726c5bce9b@mail.gmail.com><000301c7c81d$bf6591e0$3e30b5a0$@com><8a336b9d0707162002q664a39cfo3f4d29a689a1af14@mail.gmail.com> <000401c7c81f$fe4ae110$fae0a330$@com> Message-ID: <029601c7c865$7513ea40$0401a8c0@midget> > OK, reverse Blimpie boy. Aren't you guys done yet? Last I checked, no one ever "wins" in a pissing contest, not even when it gets disguised as a water balloon fight ;-) From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Jul 17 05:59:56 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 06:59:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] pop up camper for sale Message-ID: <002401c7c86a$00136c70$003a4550$@com> http://appleton.craigslist.org/rvs/375694760.html Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From caws52803 at aol.com Tue Jul 17 06:16:54 2007 From: caws52803 at aol.com (caws52803 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 08:16:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wheel paint Message-ID: <8C996837F240D22-1FB0-AB29@mblk-d17.sysops.aol.com> I need to touch up my steel wheels and wondered if anyone knows of a spray paint that is correct. TIA, Rudy Streng Lenoir, NC 61 Bugeye ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. From jlaird237 at cox.net Tue Jul 17 06:23:00 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 07:23:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tranns bolts References: <000001c7c7cf$ecb3c2f0$6401a8c0@personal> <43840a7e0707162356s91078bbt885dff984c239a5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000d01c7c86d$37860930$6401a8c0@personal> All concerned agree that bolts are 3/8th by 3 1/4 24 pitch thread. I have two of those but have been unable to get even one in so far. Have loosened the other two on the tunnel and aligned the mount with a large phillips screwdriver, seem to be centered. Tapered one of the bolts and threads seem clear. No clue, will keep messing. Thanks all for the feed back. Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" To: "Jack Laird" Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 1:56 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tranns bolts > Can't help, Jack. I have a 1275 and ribcase.... Besides, You're > nopt going to make me crawl under there and pul one out to measure, > are you? ;-) > > Maybe I could find my oil leak at the same time... > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On 7/16/07, Jack Laird wrote: >> Alan, >> >> You think these are too long 3 1/4 inchs? > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: > 269.10.6/902 - Release Date: 7/15/2007 2:21 PM From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 17 06:22:01 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 07:22:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake? References: <57099.46190.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <014801c7c86d$1573f5a0$6401a8c0@Larry> At the Gearbox. What time? LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Larry Daniels" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake? Dude, I didn't even ask 'cause I assumed we'd hook up for breakfast, right? Ron --- Larry Daniels wrote: > Chris, IMHO, the best event all year at Road > America. The one event each > year that I will not miss. > > Anyone up for a meet-up? Say Saturday lunch above > turn 8? > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jul 17 06:43:05 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 8:43:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tranns bolts Message-ID: <20070717124305.QXTG1637.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Well, you could always remove the engine and trans and test fit them that way. ;) Nobody near you has one out? You can always drop me a visit and try them in one of mine? Robert D. Ottawa Canada > From: "Jack Laird" > > All concerned agree that bolts are 3/8th by 3 1/4 24 pitch thread. I have > two of those but have been unable to get even one in so far. Have loosened > the other two on the tunnel and aligned the mount with a large phillips > screwdriver, seem to be centered. Tapered one of the bolts and threads seem > clear. > > No clue, will keep messing. > > Thanks all for the feed back. > > Jack From jlaird237 at cox.net Tue Jul 17 07:05:11 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 08:05:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tranns bolts References: <20070717124305.QXTG1637.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <001301c7c873$1c1215d0$6401a8c0@personal> Yep, and that may be one of the things I must do when I pull the engine as the weather gets cooler. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 7:43 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tranns bolts > Well, you could always remove the engine and trans and test fit them that > way. ;) > > Nobody near you has one out? You can always drop me a visit and try them > in one of mine? > > Robert D. > Ottawa Canada > >> From: "Jack Laird" >> >> All concerned agree that bolts are 3/8th by 3 1/4 24 pitch thread. I have >> two of those but have been unable to get even one in so far. Have >> loosened >> the other two on the tunnel and aligned the mount with a large phillips >> screwdriver, seem to be centered. Tapered one of the bolts and threads >> seem >> clear. >> >> No clue, will keep messing. >> >> Thanks all for the feed back. >> >> Jack > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.6/902 - Release Date: 7/15/2007 > 2:21 PM From thcollin at mtu.edu Tue Jul 17 07:42:04 2007 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 09:42:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] License Plate Lamp Message-ID: <60313l$fqm93@email.mtu.edu> This question pertains to the license plate lamp mounting. I am wondering if the lamp assembly just sits on the rear panel following the curvature of the entire panel or does it sit in an indentation in the rear panel. Mine has a "ripple/dent/?" under lamp mounting and I am wondering if it should be there or is that a dent I need to bump out. I suspect that it is a dent caused by leaning on the lamp assembly at some point in its life. Tim Collins From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 17 08:26:00 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 09:26:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Vapor Car Message-ID: <01c601c7c87e$67463f80$6401a8c0@Larry> Interesting 3 wheeler. Fast and efficient. http://www.fuelvaporcar.com/ From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Tue Jul 17 08:34:06 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 07:34:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Help with clutch problem... References: Message-ID: <008d01c7c87f$891672a0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> So, the clutch has a slight drag when pedal fully depressed. Assuming that there is proper amount of push with the slave and the push rod, there is the right push rod in place and no excessive play in the travel due to whatever, it's starting to sound like the classic broken diaphragm spring. About the only outward sign of this problem is the pedal is rather soft/easy to depress, but you'll never get full release. I suggest you take it out and have a look see at the cover assembly. New or used, this is a fairly common problem with some 1275 clutch covers. If you want to count the teeth in a horses mouth, you've got to get off the stone fence, walk over to the nag and open it's mouth to count. No amount of discussing will get an accurate count! I'll wager you could have had this assembly out and inspected in far less time than you've tried all these other fixes a half dozen times!! Later, Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 7:25 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Help with clutch problem... > In a message dated 7/15/2007 5:22:30 PM Central Daylight Time, > derf247 at gmail.com writes: > > Disc stuck? > Disc in backward? > How much travel are you getting at the clutch lever? > > > Hi Derf: > > > The disc isn't stuck - it will drag medium-light with clutch fully depressed > and engine running - the car will creep forward unless foot is on the brake. > Obviously you can't get first gear this way unless you start the car with > the rear on a jack and then let it down. I'm thinking that may be an > inconvenient way to drive the car in the heavy stop-and-go traffic situations we have > here in Chicagoland. > > I don't think it's in backward - I had several folks at Flounderpalooza look > it over before I bolted the trans to the engine. > > It appears I'm getting about 1/2 to 3/4 inch travel at the clutch lever. > > Thanks for asking. > > TuTone From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jul 17 08:44:03 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 08:44:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Help with clutch problem... In-Reply-To: <008d01c7c87f$891672a0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <008d01c7c87f$891672a0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707170744o6453a8bqe08c8d06cfef53f9@mail.gmail.com> It always hurts more when the nice guys break your heart, eh? From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jul 17 09:32:06 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:32:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Installing fuel pump In-Reply-To: <469C1B9E.8070509@comcast.net> References: <205cef430707161734v4bace5a5j9c1b0c21135892c7@mail.gmail.com> <469C1146.8050206@comcast.net> <60313l$fmn0k@email.mtu.edu> <469C1B9E.8070509@comcast.net> Message-ID: <205cef430707170832n57f35dffn9d67fff1523e04af@mail.gmail.com> Frank, Alan, & List, Works, I blew into the hose to the tank all clear, then I tested the pump with a glass full of gas works then I hooked it up I see it shows very little gas just enough to cover the paper unlike my BMW cycle where both carb filters are full of gas. Should I remove that NAPA dial that was on the old pump and what does that dial do regulate the gas flow? Is it necessary? BTW she runs OK but I am leery of that filter not full. Thanks On 7/16/07, Frank Clarici wrote: > > Timothy H. Collins wrote: > > > >> Pull the line off the carb and switch it on, put the hose close to your > >> cheek or inside your arm and see if you can feel air coming out of the > >> pipe. > > > > If you do this, set up your video camera first to capture the moment. > > Why not just put a balloon on the end and see if you catch any air or > gas? > > But then it's no fun :) > We all know as soon as you put the gas line up to your face, the gas > will gush out. > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Jul 17 09:43:11 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 10:43:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] List Content!!! Jason Isbell and Booker T Message-ID: Earlier this year, I was at South by Southwest (the huge music festival in Austin) and had the pleasure of seeing Jason Isbell (DBT list content) at Club de Ville during the New West Showcase. His special surprise guest for the last two songs, was Booker T, of Booker T and the MG's (MG Midget lists content). I have posted one of the clips I recorded, Hurricanes and Handgrenades, and plan on posting the other clip tomorrow morning, when myspace is not so crowded. If you look closely at the video, you will see that Booker T is playing Chad Stockslagers Rhodes keys (Slobberbone/Drams list content) If you want to hear some "new" blues, with Booker T, follow my link to myspace. Right under the photo of the Tequila Barrel, is the link for vids, and the clip is on page 2 Enjoy, Brad -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Jul 17 09:46:36 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 08:46:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Vapor Car In-Reply-To: <01c601c7c87e$67463f80$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: Doesn't someone on the list already have a CRX trike? > http://www.fuelvaporcar.com/ From jlaird237 at cox.net Tue Jul 17 09:54:03 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 10:54:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] License Plate Lamp References: <60313l$fqm93@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <000b01c7c88a$b2f17880$6401a8c0@personal> No dent, sets on the pannel with a large rubber gasket peice. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy H. Collins" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 8:42 AM Subject: [Spridgets] License Plate Lamp > This question pertains to the license plate lamp mounting. I am > wondering if the lamp assembly just sits on the rear panel following > the curvature of the entire panel or does it sit in an indentation in > the rear panel. Mine has a "ripple/dent/?" under lamp mounting and I > am wondering if it should be there or is that a dent I need to bump > out. I suspect that it is a dent caused by leaning on the lamp > assembly at some point in its life. > > > Tim Collins > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.8/904 - Release Date: 7/16/2007 > 5:42 PM From lists at woozy.com Tue Jul 17 10:00:46 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:00:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Clanging, banging, rattling in the transmission tunnel Message-ID: <469CE7AE.6070404@woozy.com> Hi, Got into the Midget this morning and before I got to the end of the driveway I heard a clanging / rattling sound coming from the transmission tunnel. I got out of the car a popped the hood and couldn't hear the noise over the sound of the engine but back in the driver's seat I could hear it. I just got out of the hospital for kidney stones so I didn't really feel up to crawling under the car. So I parked it and drove the truck to work. The car was running like a top on Friday when I last had it out. On Saturday I put the new radiator in and ran it in the driveway but didn't get a chance to drive it. Any idea what might be causing the noise? It increases with the engine RPMs and occurs when the car is in gear or out of gear. It started about half way down the driveway which is a long gravel driveway. I'm tempted to think that I left a wrench of something in the engine compartment and that somehow it got down into the tunnel but that's probably wishful thinking. Thanks, Robert From peter at nosimport.com Tue Jul 17 10:25:43 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:25:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Installing fuel pump In-Reply-To: <205cef430707170832n57f35dffn9d67fff1523e04af@mail.gmail.co m> References: <205cef430707161734v4bace5a5j9c1b0c21135892c7@mail.gmail.com> <469C1146.8050206@comcast.net> <60313l$fmn0k@email.mtu.edu> <469C1B9E.8070509@comcast.net> <205cef430707170832n57f35dffn9d67fff1523e04af@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070717111944.0365c608@nosimport.com> Everyone.... throw the "NAPA dial" style pressure regulators away. Especially if purchased in the past decade. They are failing with some regularity... With luck they will only block the flow, but they could also leak all over. A proper fuel pressure regulator will have 3 lines. 1 in, 1 to the carb(s) and 1 going back to the tank for the excess. The 2 line NAPA/Purolator/Holley/whoever-the-heck's label one is a RESTRICTOR not a regulator. Glad to help. Peter C === At 10:32 AM 7/17/2007, Linda Grunthaner wrote: >Frank, Alan, & List, > >Works, I blew into the hose to the tank all clear, then I tested the pump >with a glass full of gas works then I hooked it up I see it shows very >little gas just enough to cover the paper unlike my BMW cycle where both >carb filters are full of gas. Should I remove that NAPA dial that was on the >old pump and what does that dial do regulate the gas flow? Is it necessary? >BTW she runs OK but I am leery of that filter not full. > >Thanks From cciaffone at verizon.net Tue Jul 17 10:33:04 2007 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:33:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Clanging, banging, rattling in the transmission tunnel In-Reply-To: <469CE7AE.6070404@woozy.com> References: <469CE7AE.6070404@woozy.com> Message-ID: <469CEF40.1050204@verizon.net> Hey Robert, Is it a solidly metallic clinking/clunking like heavy pieves of steel might make, or is is more a tinny sound like something hitting the tunnel itself? When in gear, any gear gnashing and crashing? chuck Robert Weeks wrote: > Hi, > > Got into the Midget this morning and before I got to the end of the > driveway I heard a clanging / rattling sound coming from the > transmission tunnel. I got out of the car a popped the hood and couldn't > hear the noise over the sound of the engine but back in the driver's > seat I could hear it. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Jul 17 10:45:50 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 09:45:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Clanging, banging, rattling in the transmission tunnel In-Reply-To: <469CEF40.1050204@verizon.net> Message-ID: Any missing pets? From mark at nashvilletn.org Tue Jul 17 11:02:20 2007 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:02:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Seat Frames Message-ID: <013801c7c894$3d9f8d10$8500a8c0@CT> On a Bugeye driver seat the frame is bolted to the rails in 4 locations. Do the bolts go in from the top or up from the bottom? The reason I ask is that if I put the bolts in from the top the nuts interfere with the sliders and if I put the bolts in from the bottom the nuts interfere with the seat pan. Anybody know how it is supposed to be? Were there some special bolts for the seat frames? Mark Nashville http://www.ArrestMeRed.com From lists at woozy.com Tue Jul 17 11:29:54 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:29:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Clanging, banging, rattling in the transmission tunnel In-Reply-To: <469CEF40.1050204@verizon.net> References: <469CE7AE.6070404@woozy.com> <469CEF40.1050204@verizon.net> Message-ID: <469CFC92.6030205@woozy.com> Hi Chuck, I'd say it sounds like some nuts and bolts rattling around in a coffee can. No gnashing or crashing of gears and the sound seems the same whether in gear or out of gear. The car seemed to drive o.k. but I figured I'd be asking for trouble if I continued to drive it with that sound. Thanks, Robert chuck wrote: > Hey Robert, > > Is it a solidly metallic clinking/clunking like heavy pieves of steel > might > make, or is is more a tinny sound like something hitting the tunnel > itself? > When in gear, any gear gnashing and crashing? > > chuck > > Robert Weeks wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Got into the Midget this morning and before I got to the end of the >> driveway I heard a clanging / rattling sound coming from the >> transmission tunnel. I got out of the car a popped the hood and >> couldn't hear the noise over the sound of the engine but back in the >> driver's seat I could hear it. From dwoerpel at wi.net Tue Jul 17 11:30:29 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:30:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Seat Frames In-Reply-To: <013801c7c894$3d9f8d10$8500a8c0@CT> References: <013801c7c894$3d9f8d10$8500a8c0@CT> Message-ID: <469CFCB5.9020301@wi.net> Mark, Do you have the packing strip in place? There should be two strips of wood ~ 1/4" thick that go between the carpet/mat and the seat sliders. Also the rails, not the sliders, should be mounted with the holes for the bolts toward the middle of the seat. The sliders won't slide if the attachment rails are directly under the sliders. This may be clear as mud. I'll send a picture. Regards, Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS Burlington WI Mark wrote: > On a Bugeye driver seat the frame is bolted to the rails in 4 locations. Do > the bolts go in from the top or up from the bottom? The reason I ask is > that if I put the bolts in from the top the nuts interfere with the sliders > and if I put the bolts in from the bottom the nuts interfere with the seat > pan. Anybody know how it is supposed to be? Were there some special bolts > for the seat frames? > > Mark > Nashville > http://www.ArrestMeRed.com From peter at nosimport.com Tue Jul 17 11:36:52 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:36:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I love this list... Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070717123228.033b9008@mailbag.com> Why?... This post is on a forum elsewhere. "Will a '78 Chevrolet 305 ci (and its transmission) fit (with moderate altercations) in a 1973 Midget? " There, if you made any sort of comment other than a "how-to" you'd get your hand slapped. Here? The fur would fly! This is one of the funniest I've seen in a while. Thought I'd share. Peter C Lord, I pray my brakes are twice as good as the guy in front of me.... ... and half as good as the guy behind. From dwoerpel at wi.net Tue Jul 17 11:46:02 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:46:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I love this list... In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070717123228.033b9008@mailbag.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070717123228.033b9008@mailbag.com> Message-ID: <469D005A.5000606@wi.net> You're next project Peter??!! Or is Ron going to try to sneak this through tech....and you talk about a certain doctor we know. Time for an O.S.H.I.T. meeting!! Hilarious! Dave Peter C wrote: > Why?... > This post is on a forum elsewhere. > > "Will a '78 Chevrolet 305 ci (and its transmission) fit (with > moderate altercations) in a 1973 Midget? " > > There, if you made any sort of comment other than a "how-to" you'd > get your hand slapped. > > Here? The fur would fly! > > This is one of the funniest I've seen in a while. > > Thought I'd share. > > Peter C > > Lord, I pray my brakes are twice as good as the guy in front of me.... > ... and half as good as the guy behind. From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Tue Jul 17 11:47:37 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:47:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I love this list... In-Reply-To: <469D005A.5000606@wi.net> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070717123228.033b9008@mailbag.com> <469D005A.5000606@wi.net> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0707171047w673d9341h7605ca5a9535fa7c@mail.gmail.com> "moderate altercations" like screwing 2x4s to the front fenders to widen the car? On 7/17/07, David Woerpel wrote: > You're next project Peter??!! Or is Ron going to try to sneak this > through tech....and you talk about a certain doctor we know. > Time for an O.S.H.I.T. meeting!! Hilarious! > Dave > > Peter C wrote: > > Why?... > > This post is on a forum elsewhere. > > > > "Will a '78 Chevrolet 305 ci (and its transmission) fit (with > > moderate altercations) in a 1973 Midget? " > > > > There, if you made any sort of comment other than a "how-to" you'd > > get your hand slapped. > > > > Here? The fur would fly! > > > > This is one of the funniest I've seen in a while. > > > > Thought I'd share. > > > > Peter C > > > > Lord, I pray my brakes are twice as good as the guy in front of me.... > > ... and half as good as the guy behind. > _______________________________________________ > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jul 17 11:53:54 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:53:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] This computer is driving me crazy! In-Reply-To: References: <380-220077412212138968@earthlink.net> <205cef430707131818i1780c200if8e8c7bbac483c19@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430707171053x8e5dcbr3e34f5f112dd3a4d@mail.gmail.com> Yea they are pretty cool huh Nory. Glad you like it. Lin On 7/13/07, Nory wrote: > > I retired my 9-year-old iMac in January after getting a new iMac for > Christmas. I thought the old one was great, but this new one is > incredible! > > You know what they say ---- Once you go Mac, you never go back. > On Jul 13, 2007, at 9:18 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > switch to a Macintosh computer. From dwoerpel at wi.net Tue Jul 17 11:54:31 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:54:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I love this list... In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0707171047w673d9341h7605ca5a9535fa7c@mail.gmail.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070717123228.033b9008@mailbag.com> <469D005A.5000606@wi.net> <8a336b9d0707171047w673d9341h7605ca5a9535fa7c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <469D0257.70904@wi.net> This is going to lead to story about the Jaguar engine Sprite so I may as well ask for a picture link to that beast! And Larry? Saturday lunch sounds good. I have to meet up with a B.E. owner from Minneapolis first. Turn 8 or Ron's Paddock? Dave W. Flash. wrote: > "moderate altercations" like screwing 2x4s to the front fenders to > widen the car? > > On 7/17/07, David Woerpel wrote: > >> You're next project Peter??!! Or is Ron going to try to sneak this >> through tech....and you talk about a certain doctor we know. >> Time for an O.S.H.I.T. meeting!! Hilarious! >> Dave >> >> Peter C wrote: >> >>> Why?... >>> This post is on a forum elsewhere. >>> >>> "Will a '78 Chevrolet 305 ci (and its transmission) fit (with >>> moderate altercations) in a 1973 Midget? " >>> >>> There, if you made any sort of comment other than a "how-to" you'd >>> get your hand slapped. >>> >>> Here? The fur would fly! >>> >>> This is one of the funniest I've seen in a while. >>> >>> Thought I'd share. >>> >>> Peter C >>> >>> Lord, I pray my brakes are twice as good as the guy in front of me.... >>> ... and half as good as the guy behind. >>> >> _______________________________________________ From peter at nosimport.com Tue Jul 17 12:10:22 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:10:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I love this list... In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0707171047w673d9341h7605ca5a9535fa7c@mail.gmail.co m> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070717123228.033b9008@mailbag.com> <469D005A.5000606@wi.net> <8a336b9d0707171047w673d9341h7605ca5a9535fa7c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070717130928.033d7d68@nosimport.com> Dudes, Malapropism Peter C ==== At 12:47 PM 7/17/2007, Flash. wrote: >"moderate altercations" like screwing 2x4s to the front fenders to >widen the car? > >On 7/17/07, David Woerpel wrote: > > You're next project Peter??!! Or is Ron going to try to sneak this > > through tech....and you talk about a certain doctor we know. > > Time for an O.S.H.I.T. meeting!! Hilarious! > > Dave > > > > Peter C wrote: > > > Why?... > > > This post is on a forum elsewhere. > > > > > > "Will a '78 Chevrolet 305 ci (and its transmission) fit (with > > > moderate altercations) in a 1973 Midget? " > > > > > > There, if you made any sort of comment other than a "how-to" you'd > > > get your hand slapped. > > > > > > Here? The fur would fly! > > > > > > This is one of the funniest I've seen in a while. > > > > > > Thought I'd share. > > > > > > Peter C > > > > > > Lord, I pray my brakes are twice as good as the guy in front of me.... > > > ... and half as good as the guy behind. > > _______________________________________________ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jul 17 12:24:33 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:24:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I love this list... Message-ID: <20070717182433.GOBI13659.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Malapropism? What's that? A broken fan? I took the 'altercations' to be the response that he ( it was a 'he' wasn't it? ) would get to the suggestion! Or possibly the fight that it would take to ram it in? :) > From: Peter C > > Dudes, > Malapropism > Peter C > ==== > At 12:47 PM 7/17/2007, Flash. wrote: > > >"moderate altercations" like screwing 2x4s to the front fenders to > >widen the car? > > > >On 7/17/07, David Woerpel wrote: > > > You're next project Peter??!! Or is Ron going to try to sneak this > > > through tech....and you talk about a certain doctor we know. > > > Time for an O.S.H.I.T. meeting!! Hilarious! > > > Dave > > > > > > Peter C wrote: > > > > Why?... > > > > This post is on a forum elsewhere. > > > > > > > > "Will a '78 Chevrolet 305 ci (and its transmission) fit (with > > > > moderate altercations) in a 1973 Midget? " > > > > > > > > There, if you made any sort of comment other than a "how-to" you'd > > > > get your hand slapped. > > > > > > > > Here? The fur would fly! > > > > > > > > This is one of the funniest I've seen in a while. > > > > > > > > Thought I'd share. > > > > > > > > Peter C > > > > > > > > Lord, I pray my brakes are twice as good as the guy in front of me.... > > > > ... and half as good as the guy behind. > > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 17 12:24:56 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:24:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I love this list... Now Saturday at the BRIC References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070717123228.033b9008@mailbag.com><469D005A.5000606@wi.net><8a336b9d0707171047w673d9341h7605ca5a9535fa7c@mail.gmail.com> <469D0257.70904@wi.net> Message-ID: <024401c7c89f$c8963170$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Woerpel" To: "Spridget List" Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I love this list... This is going to lead to story about the Jaguar engine Sprite so I may as well ask for a picture link to that beast! And Larry? Saturday lunch sounds good. I have to meet up with a B.E. owner from Minneapolis first. Turn 8 or Ron's Paddock? Dave W. ========================== Ron is not racing this event. We are going as spectators. Ron, Jeff and I will be meeting for breakfast at The Gearbox at a time TBD. Peter is not coming this year (I think he is afraid I will introduce him to another "heart-attack-in-a-cup" like the RGP's at The Gearbox). If you (and any other listers) are getting there early, meet us for breakfast, as well. I plan on being at the track by 8:00 when Vintage Prod goes out. So far as a lunch meet-up, The Gearbox and SJB are always pretty busy at lunchtime. I'm not sure that my Achille's is healed enough to enjoy that long, steep climb to turn 6. That's why I suggested turn 8, but I will go with the flow. LAD From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Tue Jul 17 12:27:59 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:27:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I love this list... In-Reply-To: <20070717182433.GOBI13659.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20070717182433.GOBI13659.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0707171127x1685a999o3fdf74d8ddcc141c@mail.gmail.com> see and i read it, at first, as "priapism" which would go with your "ram it in" comment. On 7/17/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > Malapropism? What's that? A broken fan? > > I took the 'altercations' to be the response that he ( it was a 'he' wasn't it? ) would get to the suggestion! Or possibly the fight that it would take to ram it in? :) > > > > > From: Peter C > > > > Dudes, > > Malapropism > > Peter C > > ==== > > At 12:47 PM 7/17/2007, Flash. wrote: > > > > >"moderate altercations" like screwing 2x4s to the front fenders to > > >widen the car? > > > > > >On 7/17/07, David Woerpel wrote: > > > > You're next project Peter??!! Or is Ron going to try to sneak this > > > > through tech....and you talk about a certain doctor we know. > > > > Time for an O.S.H.I.T. meeting!! Hilarious! > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > Peter C wrote: > > > > > Why?... > > > > > This post is on a forum elsewhere. > > > > > > > > > > "Will a '78 Chevrolet 305 ci (and its transmission) fit (with > > > > > moderate altercations) in a 1973 Midget? " > > > > > > > > > > There, if you made any sort of comment other than a "how-to" you'd > > > > > get your hand slapped. > > > > > > > > > > Here? The fur would fly! > > > > > > > > > > This is one of the funniest I've seen in a while. > > > > > > > > > > Thought I'd share. > > > > > > > > > > Peter C > > > > > > > > > > Lord, I pray my brakes are twice as good as the guy in front of me.... > > > > > ... and half as good as the guy behind. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jul 17 12:32:28 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:32:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I love this list... Message-ID: <20070717183228.TGGQ875.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> I don't think you'd want to ram 'that' in??? > From: Flash. > > see and i read it, at first, as "priapism" which would go with your > "ram it in" comment. > > On 7/17/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > > Malapropism? What's that? A broken fan? > > > > I took the 'altercations' to be the response that he ( it was a 'he' wasn't it? ) would get to the suggestion! Or possibly the fight that it would take to ram it in? :) From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jul 17 13:13:58 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:13:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Installing fuel pump In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070717111944.0365c608@nosimport.com> References: <205cef430707161734v4bace5a5j9c1b0c21135892c7@mail.gmail.com> <469C1146.8050206@comcast.net> <60313l$fmn0k@email.mtu.edu> <469C1B9E.8070509@comcast.net> <205cef430707170832n57f35dffn9d67fff1523e04af@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070717111944.0365c608@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <205cef430707171213s6a4c0h281256a9161b41cb@mail.gmail.com> Thanks Peter off it goes : ) Lin On 7/17/07, Peter C wrote: > > Everyone.... throw the "NAPA dial" style pressure regulators away. > Especially if purchased in the past decade. They are failing with > some regularity... With luck they will only block the flow, but they > could also leak all over. > > A proper fuel pressure regulator will have 3 lines. 1 in, 1 to the > carb(s) and 1 going back to the tank for the excess. The 2 line > NAPA/Purolator/Holley/whoever-the-heck's label one is a RESTRICTOR > not a regulator. > > Glad to help. > Peter C > === > At 10:32 AM 7/17/2007, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > >Frank, Alan, & List, > > > >Works, I blew into the hose to the tank all clear, then I tested the pump > >with a glass full of gas works then I hooked it up I see it shows very > >little gas just enough to cover the paper unlike my BMW cycle where both > >carb filters are full of gas. Should I remove that NAPA dial that was on > the > >old pump and what does that dial do regulate the gas flow? Is it > necessary? > >BTW she runs OK but I am leery of that filter not full. > > > >Thanks From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jul 17 13:19:25 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:19:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Just cut the lawn thanks again to the List : ) Message-ID: <205cef430707171219td6b16f4of69ef4f8fe4bdeae@mail.gmail.com> List, I just cut my lawn again and I owe it all to the list for all the great advice on the carb problem. My mower & I thank you all. Lin 62 California Sprite "Pinky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner 99 WeedEater 21" Mower From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Jul 17 13:52:53 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:52:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] This computer is driving me crazy! In-Reply-To: <205cef430707171053x8e5dcbr3e34f5f112dd3a4d@mail.gmail.com> References: <380-220077412212138968@earthlink.net> <205cef430707131818i1780c200if8e8c7bbac483c19@mail.gmail.com> <205cef430707171053x8e5dcbr3e34f5f112dd3a4d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8230522F-1C91-44CC-9A26-724E8B173641@comcast.net> Pffftt.. just wait until you do it all on an iPhone.. weeeeee!!! Lester .. no, this didn't come from an iPhone, WAAAY to much junk comes through this account! On Jul 17, 2007, at 12:53 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Yea they are pretty cool huh Nory. > Glad you like it. > Lin > > > On 7/13/07, Nory wrote: >> >> I retired my 9-year-old iMac in January after getting a new iMac for >> Christmas. I thought the old one was great, but this new one is >> incredible! >> >> You know what they say ---- Once you go Mac, you never go back. >> On Jul 13, 2007, at 9:18 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: >> >> switch to a Macintosh computer. From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Tue Jul 17 14:09:30 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:09:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I love this list... References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070717123228.033b9008@mailbag.com> Message-ID: <031501c7c8ae$6307f8c0$6501a8c0@actualshop> Geesh PPP, how soon you forget!! Must be OFdom settin' in!! LOL "No Name" = http://www.ntahc.org/modifiedhealeys/Photos/126Marian/Marian.htm "The Fright" = http://www.ntahc.org/modifiedhealeys/Photos/36Dodds/Dodds1htm DL From dmg at bossig.com Tue Jul 17 14:37:32 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:37:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Cars, cars, cars... Message-ID: <469CC61C.3612.1764839@dmg.bossig.com> I happened to go to my local park topick up a couple of Brats and Sauerkraut. and what do I see??? A whole slew of Big Healeys, 1 BE racer forward titling hood, 1 SWA '67 Sprite and 2 BE's with rear titling hoods... And they all drove in from Oregon and the West Coast of Washington... I didn't even now that there was a "drive in" show planned for the Tri-Cities.. Healeys and a Brat --- Heaven!!! - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From dmg at bossig.com Tue Jul 17 14:57:55 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:57:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] ANother small part needed.... Message-ID: <469CCAE3.9608.188F411@dmg.bossig.com> Does anybody have the piece of metallic tubing, about 3 1/2" in diameter and about 4" long that fits on the heater box?? Then I can fir the bit of expanded tubing that goes from the blower to the heater box... One end seems to have three holes, about 120 degrees apart... (Seen on a BEat the park!!) TIA - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From cweber at advanced-input.com Tue Jul 17 15:53:35 2007 From: cweber at advanced-input.com (Weber, Chris) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:53:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] which speedo cable Message-ID: <7C9C8BBE838DE040B781A55CD6D3FBC20287A58E@ms-cda-02.advanced-input.com> I opened the catalog today to order a new speedometer cable. It lists one for the 948 and another for the 1275. Well I have a bugeye with a 1275. Anyone know the difference(s) in these cables? I am assuming it must just be length. Or do the mounting points vary for the speedometers and/or trannies? Thanks! Chris '60 Bugeye From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU Tue Jul 17 16:02:31 2007 From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:02:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Seat Frames In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3F8E9185-6FA3-4BF9-A397-901E7745EA1C@dartmouth.edu> On Jul 17, 2007, at 2:00 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > nuts interfere with the sliders I hate it when that happens. At least they don't get caught. ;-) -m From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jul 17 16:05:07 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:05:07 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Seat Frames In-Reply-To: <3F8E9185-6FA3-4BF9-A397-901E7745EA1C@dartmouth.edu> References: <3F8E9185-6FA3-4BF9-A397-901E7745EA1C@dartmouth.edu> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707171505w4dea38a1ra91096d1d29251b9@mail.gmail.com> How'd you get the beans over the frank? WE GOT A BLEEDER! On 7/17/07, Mark A. O'Neil wrote: > On Jul 17, 2007, at 2:00 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > > > nuts interfere with the sliders > > I hate it when that happens. At least they don't get caught. ;-) From dmg at bossig.com Tue Jul 17 17:33:53 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:33:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] More on Cars, cars, cars... Message-ID: <469CEF71.6209.217BCED@dmg.bossig.com> Couldn't resist it.... went back to the park with my camera and took some pictures. Two are views of all the cars under the trees by the river. The rest are of the Sprites... A SWA beat out the BE's for a prize!! But it was definitely NOT to concours spec. There was a red racing BE that had the name "Sprinzel" and another on the side (I can get the name when I get the pics off of the camera.) One had an interesting 'mod' -- a bit of twisted securing wire holding the wing nut on the DCOE secure. Another car had braided steel lines (not steel pipe!) running from the MC to the brakes. One BE had a small bracket on the RH wheel splash guard, holding four spare spark plugs... If any one is interested ... let me know where i can send the pictures to be hosted OR tell me of a free picture hosting sight... then we can all take a look!! - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From lists at woozy.com Tue Jul 17 17:56:44 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:56:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I love this list... In-Reply-To: <031501c7c8ae$6307f8c0$6501a8c0@actualshop> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070717123228.033b9008@mailbag.com> <031501c7c8ae$6307f8c0$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <469D573C.7080409@woozy.com> I don't normally go for this sort of thing but this one is particularly nice: http://www.britishv8.org/Other/AaronCouper.htm Robert WJHS1960 wrote: > Geesh PPP, how soon you forget!! Must be OFdom settin' in!! LOL > > "No Name" = http://www.ntahc.org/modifiedhealeys/Photos/126Marian/Marian.htm > > "The Fright" = http://www.ntahc.org/modifiedhealeys/Photos/36Dodds/Dodds1htm > > DL > _______________________________________________ > lists at woozy.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mconn2 at bright.net Tue Jul 17 18:07:42 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:07:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I love this list... References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070717123228.033b9008@mailbag.com><031501c7c8ae$6307f8c0$6501a8c0@actualshop> <469D573C.7080409@woozy.com> Message-ID: <008201c7c8cf$a9ddf670$4034ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Robert, Awesome. Thank you. Michael From lists at woozy.com Tue Jul 17 18:27:15 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:27:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I love this list... In-Reply-To: <008201c7c8cf$a9ddf670$4034ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070717123228.033b9008@mailbag.com><031501c7c8ae$6307f8c0$6501a8c0@actualshop> <469D573C.7080409@woozy.com> <008201c7c8cf$a9ddf670$4034ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <469D5E63.4030908@woozy.com> Hi Michael, He's got more info on his site: http://www.coupers-cars.com/sprite_restoration.htm He pretty much has my dream job. Robert Michael Conn wrote: > Robert, > > Awesome. Thank you. > > Michael From ricksnover at earthlink.net Tue Jul 17 18:43:55 2007 From: ricksnover at earthlink.net (Rick Snover) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:43:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Cars, cars, cars... In-Reply-To: <469CC61C.3612.1764839@dmg.bossig.com> References: <469CC61C.3612.1764839@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <6.2.2.1.2.20070717173621.061558b0@popd.ix.netcom.com> At 01:37 PM 7/17/2007, Dave G. wrote: >I happened to go to my local park topick up a couple of Brats and >Sauerkraut. and what do I see??? >A whole slew of Big Healeys, 1 BE racer forward titling hood, 1 SWA '67 >Sprite and 2 BE's with rear titling hoods... And they all drove in from >Oregon and the West Coast of Washington... >I didn't even now that there was a "drive in" show planned for the >Tri-Cities... >Healeys and a Brat --- Heaven!!! Yep, if your local park is called "Howard Amon Park", then that would almost certainly be the annual Healey Rendezvous (formerly known as the West Coast Meet), hosted this year by the Cascade Austin Healey Club: http://cascadeahc.homestead.com/Rendezvous-2007.html Today was the meet's popular choice car show. I wanted to attend, but that's a LONG drive from San Diego in a Sprite. Rick From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jul 17 19:03:56 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:03:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] which speedo cable In-Reply-To: <7C9C8BBE838DE040B781A55CD6D3FBC20287A58E@ms-cda-02.advanced-input.com> References: <7C9C8BBE838DE040B781A55CD6D3FBC20287A58E@ms-cda-02.advanced-input.com> Message-ID: <469D66FC.3050403@comcast.net> Weber, Chris wrote: > Anyone know the difference(s) in these cables? Bugeyes up to and including 67 had the cable enter the cockpit next to the steering column. Later (BL models) had the cable enter thru the firewall up where everything else goes thru. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From higgs6 at cogeco.ca Tue Jul 17 19:09:15 2007 From: higgs6 at cogeco.ca (Greg Higgins) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:09:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] ANother small part needed.... References: <469CCAE3.9608.188F411@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <000b01c7c8d8$427e67e0$c402a8c0@higgs> Hi Dave I have an extra heater tube, send me your name and address off list and I will sent ASAP. Greg Higgins ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G." To: "spridgets List" Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 4:57 PM Subject: [Spridgets] ANother small part needed.... > Does anybody have the piece of metallic tubing, about 3 1/2" in diameter > and about 4" long that fits on the heater box?? Then I can fir the bit of > expanded tubing that goes from the blower to the heater box... > One end seems to have three holes, about 120 degrees apart... > (Seen on a BEat the park!!) > > TIA > > - > Dave G > '65 MKIII Sprite > _______________________________________________ > higgs6 at cogeco.ca > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.8/904 - Release Date: 7/16/2007 > 5:42 PM From mconn2 at bright.net Tue Jul 17 19:27:16 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:27:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] AN5 Message-ID: <000801c7c8da$c7694860$4034ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> List, Does any one on the List own a Caterham 7? Michael From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jul 17 20:06:29 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:06:29 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] More on Cars, cars, cars... In-Reply-To: <469CEF71.6209.217BCED@dmg.bossig.com> References: <469CEF71.6209.217BCED@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707171906w3efc7bf5ha37ac9bd6689a1bf@mail.gmail.com> Safety wire is used extensively on aircraft and racing cars from way back when to the present. It is one way to keep from losing that DCOE part. Cheers, dErf > the name when I get the pics off of the camera.) > One had an interesting 'mod' -- a bit of twisted securing wire holding the wing nut on the > DCOE secure. From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jul 17 20:06:41 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:06:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] I love this list... In-Reply-To: <469D0257.70904@wi.net> Message-ID: <20070718020641.92569.qmail@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- David Woerpel wrote: > owner from Minneapolis first. Turn 8 or Ron's > Paddock? I'll be at the Gearbox at 8:30 for an egger (Zoom, you don't know what you're missing), lunch tbd for me. Porasik will be there too. There will be no paddock - the once-a-year millionaire racers club scares the hell out of me at the BRIC/KIC, so I'm just a spectator. Race at Fall Festival, of course. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jul 17 20:09:22 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:09:22 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] I love this list... In-Reply-To: <469D573C.7080409@woozy.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070717123228.033b9008@mailbag.com> <031501c7c8ae$6307f8c0$6501a8c0@actualshop> <469D573C.7080409@woozy.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707171909m2c4fa9b1o972bc10e7deaa646@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Yeah, but that's a $10,000 motor in a $5000 car. Very nice. Nicely done. Tasteful. But, why? Cheers, Derf On 7/17/07, Robert Weeks wrote: > I don't normally go for this sort of thing but this one is particularly > nice: > > http://www.britishv8.org/Other/AaronCouper.htm > > Robert > > > WJHS1960 wrote: > > Geesh PPP, how soon you forget!! Must be OFdom settin' in!! LOL > > > > "No Name" = http://www.ntahc.org/modifiedhealeys/Photos/126Marian/Marian.htm > > > > "The Fright" = http://www.ntahc.org/modifiedhealeys/Photos/36Dodds/Dodds1htm > > > > DL > > _______________________________________________ > > lists at woozy.com > > > > Edit your replies > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > derf247 at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com Tue Jul 17 20:10:36 2007 From: MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com (MICHAEL CARPENTER) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 02:10:36 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] AN5 References: <000801c7c8da$c7694860$4034ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <000701c46c6c$2ed36450$6baef904@D1PWFG61> The list wants to know why you ask such a peculiar question of such fine Spridgeteers? MC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Conn" To: "spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 9:27 PM Subject: [Spridgets] AN5 > List, > > Does any one on the List own a Caterham 7? > > Michael From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jul 17 20:18:09 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:18:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Vapor Car In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <795168.83540.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Billy Zoom wrote: > Doesn't someone on the list already have a CRX > trike? John "Blunt Head Trauma" Deikis, who's on a motorcycle trek at the moment. I did get a report from my spies about his recent dyno session at Kendall Jones' place if you're lurking, John ;-)) Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html From mconn2 at bright.net Tue Jul 17 20:18:40 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:18:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] AN5 References: <000801c7c8da$c7694860$4034ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <000701c46c6c$2ed36450$6baef904@D1PWFG61> Message-ID: <001001c7c8e1$f5d78ed0$4034ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Michael, I'm interested in the notion that a classic 7 might be a car which an owner of an AN5 might also like to own. (In case you didn't know Freud talks about the notion in his book: "An Interpretation Of Dreams".) So, is there anyone out there who also owns a 7? (I'd like to have an erudite conversation with him/her on the subject.) Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "MICHAEL CARPENTER" To: "Michael Conn" ; "spridgets" Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] AN5 > The list wants to know why you ask such a peculiar question of such fine > Spridgeteers? > > MC > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Conn" > To: "spridgets" > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 9:27 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] AN5 > > >> List, >> >> Does any one on the List own a Caterham 7? >> >> Michael From refisk at chartermi.net Tue Jul 17 20:21:33 2007 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:21:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Vapor Car References: <795168.83540.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <009201c7c8e2$5ccd9710$6401a8c0@refisk> Dyno? What dyno? We were just testing mufflers. :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Spridgets" ; "Billy Zoom" Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel Vapor Car > --- Billy Zoom wrote: > >> Doesn't someone on the list already have a CRX >> trike? > > John "Blunt Head Trauma" Deikis, who's on a motorcycle > trek at the moment. I did get a report from my spies > about his recent dyno session at Kendall Jones' place > if you're lurking, John ;-)) > > Ron From mconn2 at bright.net Tue Jul 17 20:22:04 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:22:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I love this list... References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070717123228.033b9008@mailbag.com><031501c7c8ae$6307f8c0$6501a8c0@actualshop><469D573C.7080409@woozy.com> <5f00d9910707171909m2c4fa9b1o972bc10e7deaa646@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002701c7c8e2$6f9cce60$4034ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Derf, Don't have to have a reason to do things like this. Should have used an AN5 though. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "Robert Weeks" Cc: ; "WJHS1960" Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I love this list... > Hi, > Yeah, but that's a $10,000 motor in a $5000 car. > Very nice. Nicely done. Tasteful. But, why? > Cheers, > Derf > > > On 7/17/07, Robert Weeks wrote: >> I don't normally go for this sort of thing but this one is particularly >> nice: >> >> http://www.britishv8.org/Other/AaronCouper.htm >> >> Robert >> >> >> WJHS1960 wrote: >> > Geesh PPP, how soon you forget!! Must be OFdom settin' in!! LOL >> > >> > "No Name" = >> > http://www.ntahc.org/modifiedhealeys/Photos/126Marian/Marian.htm >> > >> > "The Fright" = >> > http://www.ntahc.org/modifiedhealeys/Photos/36Dodds/Dodds1htm >> > >> > DL >> > _______________________________________________ >> > lists at woozy.com >> > >> > Edit your replies >> > >> > http://www.team.net/archive >> > >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> _______________________________________________ >> derf247 at gmail.com >> >> Edit your replies >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Tue Jul 17 20:24:44 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:24:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] AN5 References: <000801c7c8da$c7694860$4034ffd8@YOURD28EB17757><000701c46c6c$2ed36450$6baef904@D1PWFG61> <001001c7c8e1$f5d78ed0$4034ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <016101c7c8e2$ce91e360$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> Actually folks, you are ALL forgetting our own Jacques!! Guess what he still has but not his Bugeye?? Go ahead and guess!! From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jul 17 20:29:53 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:29:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] AN5 References: <000801c7c8da$c7694860$4034ffd8@YOURD28EB17757><000701c46c6c$2ed36450$6baef904@D1PWFG61><001001c7c8e1$f5d78ed0$4034ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <016101c7c8e2$ce91e360$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <031301c7c8e3$8669cac0$0401a8c0@midget> > < erudite conversation with him/her on the subject.)>> > > Actually folks, you are ALL forgetting our own Jacques!! Guess what he > still > has but not his Bugeye?? But I thought his, like one of the Michaels', was an actual Lotus 7, as opposed to the Caterham 7. No? From MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com Tue Jul 17 20:30:51 2007 From: MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com (MICHAEL CARPENTER) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 02:30:51 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] AN5 References: <000801c7c8da$c7694860$4034ffd8@YOURD28EB17757><000701c46c6c$2ed36450$6baef904@D1PWFG61><001001c7c8e1$f5d78ed0$4034ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <016101c7c8e2$ce91e360$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <003301c46c6f$2b5de540$6baef904@D1PWFG61> What does erudite have to do with a Seven? MC ----- Original Message ----- From: "WJHS1960" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] AN5 > < erudite conversation with him/her on the subject.)>> > > Actually folks, you are ALL forgetting our own Jacques!! Guess what he > still > has but not his Bugeye?? > > Go ahead and guess!! > > > _______________________________________________ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Jul 17 20:31:26 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:31:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] I love this list... In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707171909m2c4fa9b1o972bc10e7deaa646@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Beautiful engine, beautiful car...bad combo. Ernie's Mustang six fit better. Maybe not as much HP as the Jag, but when the tires are just spinning, it doesn't matter what's spinning them. As a general rule, any engine that weighs over 253 pounds shouldn't be in a Spridget. BZ From mconn2 at bright.net Tue Jul 17 21:00:57 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 23:00:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] AN5 References: <000801c7c8da$c7694860$4034ffd8@YOURD28EB17757><000701c46c6c$2ed36450$6baef904@D1PWFG61><001001c7c8e1$f5d78ed0$4034ffd8@YOURD28EB17757><016101c7c8e2$ce91e360$6501a8c0@actualshop> <003301c46c6f$2b5de540$6baef904@D1PWFG61> Message-ID: <005c01c7c8e7$de2b9ff0$4034ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Michael, If I knew what "erudite" meant, I'd tell you. (I saw the word in the description of a felon in the Post Office recently.) Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "MICHAEL CARPENTER" To: "WJHS1960" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] AN5 > What does erudite have to do with a Seven? > > MC > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "WJHS1960" > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 10:24 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] AN5 > > >> <> erudite conversation with him/her on the subject.)>> >> >> Actually folks, you are ALL forgetting our own Jacques!! Guess what he >> still >> has but not his Bugeye?? >> >> Go ahead and guess!! >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jul 17 22:00:42 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:00:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] More on Cars, cars, cars... In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707171906w3efc7bf5ha37ac9bd6689a1bf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <179039.39086.qm@web30514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Another good spot to use it is on the choke lock screws on the underside of the DCOE carb. --- derf wrote: > Safety wire is used extensively on aircraft and > racing cars from way > back when to the present. > It is one way to keep from losing that DCOE part. > Cheers, > dErf > > > > > the name when I get the pics off of the camera.) > > One had an interesting 'mod' -- a bit of twisted > securing wire holding the wing nut on the > > DCOE secure. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/norton/index.php From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jul 17 22:14:36 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:14:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Vapor Car In-Reply-To: <009201c7c8e2$5ccd9710$6401a8c0@refisk> Message-ID: <475721.73858.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Rick Fisk wrote: > Dyno? What dyno? We were just testing mufflers. Blackhawk Farms last year, Dr. J. was telling us about his $1400 exhaust that got him 4 hp on the dyno. He asked what I was running. I use a 2" straight pipe. I told him I was pissed because 3 years earlier, it was $12, and I cut it to length myself, but last year they upped it to $20 when it was cut to length by the shop. He looked a little puzzled and said "But mine gets 4 horsepower." More than a little reminiscent of the "Ours go to 11" scene in Spinal Tap. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469 From lewing at sport.rr.com Sat Jul 14 16:52:02 2007 From: lewing at sport.rr.com (Lester Ewing) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:52:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Dwell vs gap.. Message-ID: <24E0B8D2-2E89-434F-9744-C30D040BC80A@sport.rr.com> ok, could someone tell me what the dwell angle is supposed to be for the Bugeye? all that I can find is the points gap and I enjoy the Dwell way much more .. Thanks, Lester From mark at commtechradio.com Mon Jul 16 13:28:22 2007 From: mark at commtechradio.com (Mark Endicott) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 14:28:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Seats Message-ID: <015c01c7c7df$7ac42da0$8500a8c0@CT> Does anybody have any experience with Tim Kruso in Dayton Ohio? He makes custom seat covers and installs them. Mark Nashville http://www.ArrestMeRed.com From pilotrob at webtv.net Wed Jul 18 05:24:45 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:24:45 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Dwell vs gap.. Message-ID: 60 degrees, Lester. :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jul 18 07:04:05 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 07:04:05 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Dwell vs gap.. In-Reply-To: <24E0B8D2-2E89-434F-9744-C30D040BC80A@sport.rr.com> References: <24E0B8D2-2E89-434F-9744-C30D040BC80A@sport.rr.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707180604wd0935b3x564df503cf6f8e59@mail.gmail.com> 60 +/- 3, IIRC. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jul 18 11:27:27 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:27:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I love this list... In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070717123228.033b9008@mailbag.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070717123228.033b9008@mailbag.com> Message-ID: I DO know that a 327, with an automatic transmission, will fit into a 62 Sprite, with moderate modification. I think Ed has a video of it idling on his site. Brad On 7/17/07, Peter C wrote: > Why?... > This post is on a forum elsewhere. > > "Will a '78 Chevrolet 305 ci (and its transmission) fit (with > moderate altercations) in a 1973 Midget? " > > There, if you made any sort of comment other than a "how-to" you'd > get your hand slapped. > > Here? The fur would fly! From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jul 18 11:47:50 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:47:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] I love this list... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I DO know that a 327, with an automatic transmission, will fit into a > 62 Sprite But it'll make it handle like a Chevy. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jul 18 12:19:31 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:19:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I love this list... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It goes straight, REAL FAST!! 5.7 something, in the 1/8th mile, at around 117. Granted that is with a stock 327, and a 100 shot of NOS. On 7/18/07, Billy Zoom wrote: > > I DO know that a 327, with an automatic transmission, will fit into a > > 62 Sprite > But it'll make it handle like a Chevy. > > > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jul 18 12:42:04 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:42:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] I love this list... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > 5.7 something, in the 1/8th mile, at around 117. He actually got the rear end to hook up? That's sort of impressive. Ernie's Mustang six had a Ford 3-speed. He only used 2nd and 3rd, and the tires never really did much except smoke for the entire 1/4 mile. It was more fun cruising around town in the slightly thrashed, stock looking '64 Midget. We'd look for a TR4 and get next to him at a light and then just stay with him until the next light. At the next light, he'd try a little harder, and we'd just stay with him to the next light. Then the guy would get upset and really go for it...and we'd just stay with him until bearing bits started popping out of his tailpipe. Then Ernie would floor it and burn rubber for a block or more. It was great fun. BZ From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jul 18 13:10:03 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:10:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I love this list... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: He set the rear end up on a four link salsbury design, like what I have in my 68 GTO. For the links, he used the adjustable rods with heim joints, like are used on tractors for the brush hog that goes behind them. In fact, he got the rods from TSC (Tractor Supply Company, a huge chain here in Texas) He then, through trial and error, on tuning nights, dialed in the rear end, changing the length of the rods, so that it WOULD hook up when floored. He claims that he only has to lightly hold the wheel on launch, and feels that he could more than likely floor it with his hands off the wheel, and it would go straight. Once he got it tuned and true, he added the NOS, and really made it fly. Next, he'll punch the holes a bit bigger, add a warmer cam, and some heads to compliment the cam. That should help trim some time off as well. Brad On 7/18/07, Billy Zoom wrote: > > 5.7 something, in the 1/8th mile, at around 117. > He actually got the rear end to hook up? That's sort of impressive. > Ernie's Mustang six had a Ford 3-speed. He only used 2nd and 3rd, and the > tires never really did much except smoke for the entire 1/4 mile. > It was more fun cruising around town in the slightly thrashed, stock looking > '64 Midget. We'd look for a TR4 and get next to him at a light and then just > stay with him until the next light. At the next light, he'd try a little > harder, and we'd just stay with him to the next light. Then the guy would > get upset and really go for it...and we'd just stay with him until bearing > bits started popping out of his tailpipe. Then Ernie would floor it and burn > rubber for a block or more. It was great fun. > BZ > > > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jul 18 14:52:20 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:52:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I love this list... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <469E7D84.4050203@comcast.net> Billy Zoom wrote: >> I DO know that a 327, with an automatic transmission, will fit into a >> 62 Sprite > But it'll make it handle like a Chevy. I had a ride in a 64 Sprite with a 283 and a 3 speed. Yes it fits, wheelies in first, non stop tire smoke in 2nd, and like a bat out of hell in third. But it did indeed handle like a chevy. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From rodb at ptgrey.com Wed Jul 18 15:26:09 2007 From: rodb at ptgrey.com (Rod Barman) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:26:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Steering Column Message-ID: <9061E2F2EDBF994C8A1C1BB5C6ACE1C608C7A450BB@rosser.pointgrey.local> Hello All, I'm struggling a little bit to set up the steering column on my bugeye. First, it appears that the column itself can be slid up and down if the clamp under the dash is loosened. Where should the column sit with respect to the dash or the steering wheel? Second, the upper felt like bushing keeps working itself out of the column. Is there suppose to be a washer at the top here between the wheel and the column or is something bent? How is this felt kept in place? Finally, I'm guessing that the alignment of the column with the dash is handled by the shims under the base of the under dash clamp. It looks like the dash has been disassembled at some point in the past yet the shims look original so this probably explains why things don't line up perfectly. Thanks for any help or suggestions! --rod. From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jul 18 15:46:33 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:46:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] It all comes back to Homo content, doesn't it? Manly men who are not secure in their manliness, hit delete. Message-ID: <5f00d9910707181446q6ecff16as377d1a18042b30e5@mail.gmail.com> All this V8 Spridget content reminds me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsh4cEhEWlg From pilotrob at webtv.net Wed Jul 18 16:54:57 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 22:54:57 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Leaf springs Message-ID: "Panhard Rods" www.speedwellengineering.com click on "Rear Suspension", Linda. :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From bpazur at excel.net Wed Jul 18 18:02:12 2007 From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 19:02:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I love this list... References: <20070718020641.92569.qmail@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000901c7c998$11316410$41e767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> Ron - Where is the Gearbox? I'd like to meet you there for an 'egger' at 8:30 AM. I did the BRIC in 2004 - guess I was too much of a novice to know any better. A couple millionaire racers very kindly helped me with my car that weekend, though, - guess they felt sorry for me. Bud Mr. White (Remember 'Reservoir Dogs') - 1275 Street Bugeye SilverStreak - 1275 Race Sprite ************************************************************************ "The Buddha... resides as comfortably in the gears of a...transmission as he does in the petals of a flower" - Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "David Woerpel" ; "Spridget List" Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I love this list... > --- David Woerpel wrote: > > owner from Minneapolis first. Turn 8 or Ron's > > Paddock? > > I'll be at the Gearbox at 8:30 for an egger (Zoom, you > don't know what you're missing), lunch tbd for me. > Porasik will be there too. There will be no paddock - > the once-a-year millionaire racers club scares the > hell out of me at the BRIC/KIC, so I'm just a > spectator. Race at Fall Festival, of course. > > Ron From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Jul 18 17:41:58 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:41:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] I love this list... In-Reply-To: <000901c7c998$11316410$41e767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> Message-ID: <601963.8382.qm@web30514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> -- Bud Pazur wrote: > Ron - > > Where is the Gearbox? I'd like to meet you there for > an 'egger' at 8:30 AM. Bud, It's the "main" concession in the paddock area, the one on the hill between turn 5 and the false grid entry, just down the hill from where we paddocked together in 05. I'll keep all youse posted - my kids want to do midnight Harry Potter readings on Friday night, so being at the Gearbox at 8:30 am may be a little sporty. > better. A couple millionaire racers very kindly > helped me with my car that I think that was the year when we called Frank about the 1275 in Mr. White? Some good came out of the weekend, eh? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php From jlaird237 at cox.net Wed Jul 18 17:46:43 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 18:46:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Steering Column References: <9061E2F2EDBF994C8A1C1BB5C6ACE1C608C7A450BB@rosser.pointgrey.local> Message-ID: <001f01c7c995$e5835cd0$6401a8c0@personal> Column extends about 4 inchs into the engine compartment, not critical. No washer on felt, is a smaller end and a pressed part of the column that holds it in. Shims are orginal think two are required. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Barman" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 4:26 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Steering Column > Hello All, > > I'm struggling a little bit to set up the steering column on my bugeye. > > First, it appears that the column itself can be slid up and down if the > clamp > under the dash is loosened. Where should the column sit with respect to > the > dash or the steering wheel? > > Second, the upper felt like bushing keeps working itself out of the > column. > Is there suppose to be a washer at the top here between the wheel and the > column or is something bent? How is this felt kept in place? > > Finally, I'm guessing that the alignment of the column with the dash is > handled by the shims under the base of the under dash clamp. It looks > like > the dash has been disassembled at some point in the past yet the shims > look > original so this probably explains why things don't line up perfectly. > > Thanks for any help or suggestions! > > --rod. > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.8/906 - Release Date: 7/17/2007 > 6:30 PM From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 18 18:16:59 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 19:16:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I love this list... References: <601963.8382.qm@web30514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <03fd01c7c99a$20ec1d80$6401a8c0@Larry> -- Bud Pazur wrote: > Ron - > > Where is the Gearbox? I'd like to meet you there for > an 'egger' at 8:30 AM. Bud, It's the "main" concession in the paddock area, the one on the hill between turn 5 and the false grid entry, just down the hill from where we paddocked together in 05. I'll keep all youse posted - my kids want to do midnight Harry Potter readings on Friday night, so being at the Gearbox at 8:30 am may be a little sporty. ======================== Bud, I'm going to do my best to be there by 8:00. 5 is to your left, 14 and the hill up the front straight are below you and to the right. Get there early and I'll buy you a cup of Joe. Larry From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jul 18 18:40:43 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 17:40:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] It all comes back to Homo content, doesn't it? Manly men who are not secure in their manliness, hit delete. In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707181446q6ecff16as377d1a18042b30e5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsh4cEhEWlg Gross! From lists at woozy.com Wed Jul 18 18:52:35 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 20:52:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Clanging, banging, rattling in the transmission tunnel In-Reply-To: <469CFC92.6030205@woozy.com> References: <469CE7AE.6070404@woozy.com> <469CEF40.1050204@verizon.net> <469CFC92.6030205@woozy.com> Message-ID: <469EB5D3.2040003@woozy.com> I found what the problem was after spending about a half an hour with a mechanic's stethoscope listening inside the engine compartment and inside the cockpit I still couldn't pinpoint what the noise was or where it was coming from. Then after jacking up the car and crawling under it I found what was causing the noise. I must have left a stubby 7/8 wrench in the engine bay after working on the car the other day and it worked it's way down in between the transmission and the tunnel. Any vibrations from the engine were amplified by the wrench rattling around against the side of the tunnel. Mystery solved. I had a hunch it was something dumb on my part that caused it and I'm glad I was right. Robert Robert Weeks wrote: > Hi Chuck, > > I'd say it sounds like some nuts and bolts rattling around in a coffee > can. No gnashing or crashing of gears and the sound seems the same > whether in gear or out of gear. The car seemed to drive o.k. but I > figured I'd be asking for trouble if I continued to drive it with that > sound. > > Thanks, > > Robert > > > chuck wrote: > >> Hey Robert, >> >> Is it a solidly metallic clinking/clunking like heavy pieves of steel >> might >> make, or is is more a tinny sound like something hitting the tunnel >> itself? >> When in gear, any gear gnashing and crashing? >> >> chuck >> >> Robert Weeks wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Got into the Midget this morning and before I got to the end of the >>> driveway I heard a clanging / rattling sound coming from the >>> transmission tunnel. I got out of the car a popped the hood and >>> couldn't hear the noise over the sound of the engine but back in the >>> driver's seat I could hear it. >>> > _______________________________________________ > lists at woozy.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From thcollin at mtu.edu Wed Jul 18 19:11:46 2007 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 21:11:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I love this list... In-Reply-To: <000901c7c998$11316410$41e767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> References: <20070718020641.92569.qmail@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <000901c7c998$11316410$41e767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> Message-ID: <60313l$g658d@email.mtu.edu> >A couple millionaire racers Isn't this a bit redundant - millionaire racers? By definition all racers are millionaires. I guess that not all millionaires are racers, however. LOL Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jul 18 19:21:10 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 18:21:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] I love this list... In-Reply-To: <60313l$g658d@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: > racers are millionaires. Some are...most were or would have been. From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Jul 18 19:22:22 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 18:22:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] I love this list... In-Reply-To: <60313l$g658d@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <944223.85830.qm@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- "Timothy H. Collins" wrote: > Isn't this a bit redundant - millionaire racers? Bud had/has a very sweet racecar for sale for many zeroes less than a million: Item number: 200113855498 I was high bidder, I didn't get the hometown discount, though ;). Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Jul 18 19:29:45 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 18:29:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] I love this list... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070719012945.29969.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Billy Zoom wrote: > > racers are millionaires. > Some are...most were or would have been. "DRIVER CARRIES NO CASH" Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jul 18 19:34:31 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 19:34:31 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] It all comes back to Homo content, doesn't it? Manly men who are not secure in their manliness, hit delete. In-Reply-To: References: <5f00d9910707181446q6ecff16as377d1a18042b30e5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707181834g492eb6adu66871a69aa7781ec@mail.gmail.com> Zoom Zoom, Mr. Zoom. On 7/18/07, Billy Zoom wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsh4cEhEWlg > Gross! From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 18 19:55:11 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 20:55:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I love this list... References: <20070718020641.92569.qmail@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com><000901c7c998$11316410$41e767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> <60313l$g658d@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <043401c7c9a7$d8387ad0$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy H. Collins" To: "Bud Pazur" ; "Spridgets" ; "Ron Soave" Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I love this list... >A couple millionaire racers Isn't this a bit redundant - millionaire racers? By definition all racers are millionaires. I guess that not all millionaires are racers, however. LOL Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite _______________________________________________ An old adage in racing is that the way to make a small fortune in racing is to start with a large fortune. I have personally found that to be true. LAD From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jul 18 20:43:14 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 20:43:14 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Clanging, banging, rattling in the transmission tunnel In-Reply-To: <469EB5D3.2040003@woozy.com> References: <469CE7AE.6070404@woozy.com> <469CEF40.1050204@verizon.net> <469CFC92.6030205@woozy.com> <469EB5D3.2040003@woozy.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707181943x2726d170r2e4aac271e487f80@mail.gmail.com> OK, who had the money riding on "wrench left in tunnel"? From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Wed Jul 18 20:57:53 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 19:57:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Hard Water Spots Message-ID: <32274a86f8ba7d622a69783a.20070718195753.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Anyone know how to get hard water spots off clear coat or glass? Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Jul 18 21:13:42 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 20:13:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Hard Water Spots In-Reply-To: <32274a86f8ba7d622a69783a.20070718195753.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <815758.17041.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: > Anyone know how to get hard water spots off clear > coat or glass? Many recipes I'm sure but here's mine - Best way for glass is to boil a pot of water, take it out to the car, dip a small towel in the water as hot as you can stand it, and lay on the glass for 5 seconds or so. Wipe with a clean dry towel. It looks awesome. If it doesn't work completely, retry with a few drops of vinegar in the water during the boil. Clearcoat - wax with a polishing agent (the cheap stuff). If too stubborn, DuPont bug/tar remover. Either way, follow with pure wax. Ron Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC From jlaird237 at cox.net Wed Jul 18 21:19:51 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 22:19:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hard Water Spots References: <32274a86f8ba7d622a69783a.20070718195753.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <003001c7c9b3$ab7e7970$6401a8c0@personal> Bar tenders friend from the grocery store for glass. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 9:57 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Hard Water Spots > Anyone know how to get hard water spots off clear coat or glass? > > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.8/906 - Release Date: 7/17/2007 > 6:30 PM From herby at herbytoys.com Wed Jul 18 22:26:42 2007 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 21:26:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hard Water Spots In-Reply-To: <815758.17041.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000f01c7c9bd$03f331a0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> > Anyone know how to get hard water spots off clear > coat or glass? Ditto on Ron's solution for glass. Especially with the vinegar. For the clear coat I've had success with a clay bar. Then follow with a good wax. Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Jul 18 22:32:10 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 21:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Hard Water Spots In-Reply-To: <000f01c7c9bd$03f331a0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> Message-ID: <20070719043210.97620.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Herby wrote: > For the clear coat I've had success with a clay bar. I amend my answer to the clay bar! When I got my 1970 Midget, the paint was (is) perfect except for splatter on the rear boot from Larry "Woodrat" Cogan's painting of his jeep. The clay bar removed 6 month old Jeep over spray. It's good sh...tuff. Ron Soave "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain ____________________________________________________________________________________ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Thu Jul 19 00:20:20 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 23:20:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Hard Water Spots In-Reply-To: <20070719043210.97620.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <000f01c7c9bd$03f331a0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> <20070719043210.97620.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6a40a11df0a109a0adf70a.20070718232020.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> The consensus seems to be hot water maybe with vinegar for the glass and a clay bar for the clear coat. I'll buy a clay bar tomorrow. I have vinegar. Clay bar might just be good for the 7 year old paint on the Bugeye too! Thanks everyone. Is there anything you guy don't know? Mike Ron Soave > --- Herby wrote: >> For the clear coat I've had success with a clay bar. > > I amend my answer to the clay bar! When I got my 1970 > Midget, the paint was (is) perfect except for splatter > on the rear boot from Larry "Woodrat" Cogan's painting > of his jeep. The clay bar removed 6 month old Jeep > over spray. It's good sh...tuff. > > Ron Soave > > "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated > for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. > http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jul 19 00:53:28 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 01:53:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hard Water Spots In-Reply-To: <6a40a11df0a109a0adf70a.20070718232020.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <000f01c7c9bd$03f331a0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> <20070719043210.97620.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6a40a11df0a109a0adf70a.20070718232020.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0707182353l7fad03c3o44966bbd566b26aa@mail.gmail.com> Yeah, Mike... They don't know $hit about Bluegrass Music! Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City On 7/19/07, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: > The consensus seems to be hot water maybe with vinegar for the glass and a > clay bar for the clear coat. I'll buy a clay bar tomorrow. I have > vinegar. Clay bar might just be good for the 7 year old paint on the > Bugeye too! Thanks everyone. Is there anything you guy don't know? > Mike > > > Ron Soave > > --- Herby wrote: > >> For the clear coat I've had success with a clay bar. > > > > I amend my answer to the clay bar! When I got my 1970 > > Midget, the paint was (is) perfect except for splatter > > on the rear boot from Larry "Woodrat" Cogan's painting > > of his jeep. The clay bar removed 6 month old Jeep > > over spray. It's good sh...tuff. > > > > Ron Soave > > > > "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated > > for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. > > http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Thu Jul 19 02:26:07 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 01:26:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Hard Water Spots In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0707182353l7fad03c3o44966bbd566b26aa@mail.gmail.com> References: <000f01c7c9bd$03f331a0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> <20070719043210.97620.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6a40a11df0a109a0adf70a.20070718232020.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <43840a7e0707182353l7fad03c3o44966bbd566b26aa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3058a821aa78dca65aaa.20070719012607.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Well neither do I except for the music I heard in "O Brother Where Art Thou", which I thoroughly enjoyed. Mike Jim Johnson > Yeah, Mike... They don't know $hit about Bluegrass Music! > > Cheers!! > Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City > > On 7/19/07, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: >> The consensus seems to be hot water maybe with vinegar for the glass and >> a >> clay bar for the clear coat. I'll buy a clay bar tomorrow. I have >> vinegar. Clay bar might just be good for the 7 year old paint on the >> Bugeye too! Thanks everyone. Is there anything you guy don't know? >> Mike >> >> >> Ron Soave >> > --- Herby wrote: >> >> For the clear coat I've had success with a clay bar. >> > >> > I amend my answer to the clay bar! When I got my 1970 >> > Midget, the paint was (is) perfect except for splatter >> > on the rear boot from Larry "Woodrat" Cogan's painting >> > of his jeep. The clay bar removed 6 month old Jeep >> > over spray. It's good sh...tuff. >> > >> > Ron Soave >> > >> > "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain >> > >> > >> > >> > ____________________________________________________________________________________ >> > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's >> updated >> > for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. >> > http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow >> _______________________________________________ >> bmwwxman at gmail.com >> >> Edit your replies >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > > > -- > The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to > fill the world with fools. > -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From bpazur at excel.net Thu Jul 19 06:37:39 2007 From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 07:37:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hard Water Spots Message-ID: <200707191237.l6JCbdmh021988@green.excel.net> Do Not use rubbing compound on clearcoat. Don't ask me how I know. Bud Pazur '60 Bugeye - Street Car - 1275cc - 'Mr. White' Race Spridget - 1275cc - 'SilverStreak' "The Buddha ... resides as comfortably in the gears of a ...transmission as he does in the petals of a flower." - Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Jul 19 06:54:49 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 07:54:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I love this list... In-Reply-To: <20070719012945.29969.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20070719012945.29969.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00b901c7ca03$ff997c30$fecc7490$@com> I made that sticker for Elmo years ago... don't tell Gurolnick. FDFF -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:30 PM To: Billy Zoom; Timothy H. Collins; Bud Pazur; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I love this list... --- Billy Zoom wrote: > > racers are millionaires. > Some are...most were or would have been. "DRIVER CARRIES NO CASH" Ron From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 19 07:07:48 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 08:07:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 71 Midget For Sale Message-ID: <049d01c7ca05$cef4deb0$6401a8c0@Larry> >From the local paper: "1971 MG Midget Sports Car. Beautiful condition. $2,800. Call 920-685-5655." I know nothing of this car -- only what I saw in the paper. The phone number would put it in Omro, WI. About 80 miles north of Milwaukee. Larry Daniels 79 MGB LE 60 Bugeye 67 Austin A60 Pickup (Ute) "You only need two tools: WD-40 and Duct Tape. If it doesn't move and should, use the WD-40. If it shouldn't move and does, use the duct tape." From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Jul 19 07:13:40 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 08:13:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: now starting problems.. References: Message-ID: Ok, this should be a quick one. Can anyone tell me if a Bosch Blue coil will work ok in the Bugeye. I have eliminated several problems and as noted earlier, this is a quick one to try. I have LOTS of blue coils hanging around soo.. Lester .. it's that resistor vs non thing I'm not sure of.. On Jul 16, 2007, at 2:32 AM, Guy R Day wrote: > Broken or weak bendix spring, worn bendix teeth and / or worn > flywheel teeth. Bendix oiled / sh*tted up. > > Unlikely to be voltage at starter as it would appear to be > initially working. > > GRD From abcoz at hky.com Thu Jul 19 07:06:02 2007 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:06:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] "new" Lucas alternators Message-ID: <013f01c7ca05$8f6d4a20$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Anyone had any experience (+ or -) with the "new" Lucas alternators from Moss? I haven't had to replace an alternator for nearly 20 years, and I'm beginning to think it's time to do some preventive maintenance for a couple of upcoming trips. I'm also looking into a "factory rebuilt" alternator from The Roadster Factory (who doesn't stock Midget parts, but does stock MGB stuff), but I can check on those, locally. Thanks. Bud Osbourne From bpazur at excel.net Thu Jul 19 07:23:44 2007 From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 08:23:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I Love This List Message-ID: <200707191323.l6JDNiMl022551@green.excel.net> Ron wrote: I think that was the year when we called Frank about the 1275 in Mr. White? Some good came out of the weekend, eh? You are right - the engine runs like a top and pulls strong. The only somewhat scary thing is that it doesn''t leak oil anywhere - not at the rear, the front, or from the pan. That's not normal, is it? Seriously Frank - great engine. Bud Pazur '60 Bugeye - Street Car - 1275cc - 'Mr. White' Race Spridget - 1275cc - 'SilverStreak' "The Buddha ... resides as comfortably in the gears of a ...transmission as he does in the petals of a flower." - Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jul 19 07:27:32 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 08:27:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: now starting problems.. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070719082604.034c0930@nosimport.com> Absolutely. In fact, it is preferred. It does NOT take an external resistor. (The Bosch red does require one) Peter C ==== At 08:13 AM 7/19/2007, you wrote: >Ok, > >this should be a quick one. Can anyone tell me if a Bosch Blue coil >will work ok in the Bugeye. I have eliminated several problems and >as noted earlier, this is a quick one to try. I have LOTS of blue >coils hanging around soo.. > >Lester > >.. it's that resistor vs non thing I'm not sure of.. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Jul 19 07:30:39 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 08:30:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: now starting problems.. In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070719082604.034c0930@nosimport.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070719082604.034c0930@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <5A2AA9AD-4921-49B8-AF4E-745DC3BCD383@comcast.net> Thanks guy! I've been using a Lucas Performance somthinerother. It seems that I have good spark and I am leaning towards the carb leaking fuel into the manifold.. but this is easier to check. ;-) Lester On Jul 19, 2007, at 8:27 AM, Peter C wrote: > Absolutely. In fact, it is preferred. It does NOT take an external > resistor. (The Bosch red does require one) > > Peter C > ==== > At 08:13 AM 7/19/2007, you wrote: > >> Ok, >> >> this should be a quick one. Can anyone tell me if a Bosch Blue coil >> will work ok in the Bugeye. I have eliminated several problems and >> as noted earlier, this is a quick one to try. I have LOTS of blue >> coils hanging around soo.. >> >> Lester >> >> .. it's that resistor vs non thing I'm not sure of.. From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Thu Jul 19 07:39:35 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 06:39:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] BusterCluster article In-Reply-To: <380-220077412224914109@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <428544.54972.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> .I sent a picture a while back and was not on the list.. How do we know if he gets It? I sent another today. This was after talking to Paul a few weeks ago. Vigil Robert Bruce Evans wrote: One of the e-mails that apparently did not get to everyone to whom it was sent was one that dealt with the "mug shots" and information that Theo Gillam needs for the BusterCluster article scheduled for the October issue. In it, I explained that he had not even received half of those who were at the BusterCluster. I would hope that those of you who have not sent one would do so quickly. It would be a shame not to have this feature included in the story, for it would truly give credit to those who made it such a mystical, magical weekend. Those who he has received a mug shot and information from include: . Paul Asgeirsson . Frank Clarici . Al Clemens . Robert Houston . Jim Johnson . Warren Pierce . Mike Rivers . Jim Rogers . Ron Soave If you have misplaced the information he needed, it is: . Name: . Location: . Occupation: . What I did: . How many miles I travelled: . How many OSHITs under my belt: . What cars I own: . Name: . Location: . Occupation: . What I did: . How many miles I travelled: . How many OSHITs under my belt: . What cars I own: If you have misplaced his e-mail address, it is: grot at toroidalcavity.fsnet.co.uk So get those mug shots in. Please! Buster Evans --------------------------------- Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jul 19 07:40:41 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 07:40:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget vs. VW Distributor Message-ID: <5f00d9910707190640x26b3049of4aa90542b130e6c@mail.gmail.com> Anyone ever compared a Spridget distributor to a VW distributor? I just received a new VW unit that was $100 with the electronic (Pertronics knock off) upgrade inculded. Physically it looks very much like a Lucas unit but I don't have a Lucas around to compare it with. Cheers, Derf From type79 at ix.netcom.com Thu Jul 19 08:06:26 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:06:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] BusterCluster article Message-ID: <26597685.1184853986232.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net> In your case, you will know when the article is published. You will appear as twins. jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ -----Original Message----- >From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com >Sent: Jul 19, 2007 9:39 AM >To: b-evans at earthlink.net, Spridgets at autox.team.net, midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com, bugeye at yahoogroups.com >Subject: Bugeye Group..... Re: BusterCluster article > >.I sent a picture a while back and was not on the list.. How do we know if he gets It? I sent another today. This was after talking to Paul a few weeks ago. > > Vigil From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Jul 19 09:47:27 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 08:47:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] BusterCluster article In-Reply-To: <428544.54972.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <428544.54972.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <469F878F.80205@earthlink.net> Vigil... His e-mail is grot at toroidalcavity.fsnet.co.uk . For those of you at the BusterCluster, the "list" is of those from whom Theo has received a mug shot. . Paul Asgeirsson . Frank Clarici . Al Clemens . Robert Houston . Jim Johnson . Warren Pierce . Mike Rivers . Jim Rogers . Ron Soave Those of you who have not responded to Theo, you need to send him a mug shot and answers to these questions: . Name: . Location: . Occupation: . What I did: . How many miles I travelled: . How many OSHITs under my belt: . What cars I own: . Name: . Location: . Occupation: . What I did: . How many miles I travelled: . How many OSHITs under my belt: . What cars I own: Buster Buster uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com wrote: > .I sent a picture a while back and was not on the list.. How do we > know if he gets It? I sent another today. This was after talking to > Paul a few weeks ago. > > Vigil > > Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > > One of the e-mails that apparently did not get to everyone to whom > it was sent was one that dealt with the "mug shots" and > information that Theo Gillam needs for the BusterCluster article > scheduled for the October issue. In it, I explained that he had > not even received half of those who were at the BusterCluster. I > would hope that those of you who have not sent one would do so > quickly. It would be a shame not to have this feature included in > the story, for it would truly give credit to those who made it > such a mystical, magical weekend. Those who he has received a mug > shot and information from include: > > . Paul Asgeirsson > . Frank Clarici > . Al Clemens > . Robert Houston > . Jim Johnson > . Warren Pierce > . Mike Rivers > . Jim Rogers > . Ron Soave > > If you have misplaced the information he needed, it is: > > . Name: > . Location: > . Occupation: > . What I did: > . How many miles I travelled: > . How many OSHITs under my belt: > . What cars I own: > . Name: > . Location: > . Occupation: > . What I did: > . How many miles I travelled: > . How many OSHITs under my belt: > . What cars I own: > > If you have misplaced his e-mail address, it is: > grot at toroidalcavity.fsnet.co.uk > > > So get those mug shots in. Please! > > Buster Evans > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks > on Yahoo! TV. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jul 19 10:17:24 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:17:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hard Water Spots In-Reply-To: <3058a821aa78dca65aaa.20070719012607.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <000f01c7c9bd$03f331a0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> <20070719043210.97620.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6a40a11df0a109a0adf70a.20070718232020.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <43840a7e0707182353l7fad03c3o44966bbd566b26aa@mail.gmail.com> <3058a821aa78dca65aaa.20070719012607.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0707190917w68f0c276se87535da58f93a10@mail.gmail.com> On 7/19/07, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: > Well neither do I except for the music I heard in "O Brother Where Art > Thou", which I thoroughly enjoyed. Yeah, there was a brief surge in popularity for traditional Bluegrass music when the movie came out and then it was forgotten by the radio stations instantly upon the arrival of the next Hip Hop "artist" release. Catchy tunes in that Hip Hop stuff, don't you think? The lyrics tell such charming stories and I find myself walking around whistling the tunes all day..... (gag!) Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Thu Jul 19 10:41:11 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:41:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Hard Water Spots In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0707190917w68f0c276se87535da58f93a10@mail.gmail.com> References: <000f01c7c9bd$03f331a0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> <20070719043210.97620.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6a40a11df0a109a0adf70a.20070718232020.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <43840a7e0707182353l7fad03c3o44966bbd566b26aa@mail.gmail.com> <3058a821aa78dca65aaa.20070719012607.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <43840a7e0707190917w68f0c276se87535da58f93a10@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <77cca14265a12b7ea24ffa.20070719094111.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> The more I listen to today's music, the more I go back to the classics stations that play the 60s and 70s music. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Jim Johnson > On 7/19/07, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: >> Well neither do I except for the music I heard in "O Brother Where Art >> Thou", which I thoroughly enjoyed. > > Yeah, there was a brief surge in popularity for traditional Bluegrass > music when the movie came out and then it was forgotten by the radio > stations instantly upon the arrival of the next Hip Hop "artist" > release. Catchy tunes in that Hip Hop stuff, don't you think? The > lyrics tell such charming stories and I find myself walking around > whistling the tunes all day..... (gag!) > > Cheers!! > Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jul 19 10:48:31 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:48:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hard Water Spots In-Reply-To: <77cca14265a12b7ea24ffa.20070719094111.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <000f01c7c9bd$03f331a0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> <20070719043210.97620.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6a40a11df0a109a0adf70a.20070718232020.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <43840a7e0707182353l7fad03c3o44966bbd566b26aa@mail.gmail.com> <3058a821aa78dca65aaa.20070719012607.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <43840a7e0707190917w68f0c276se87535da58f93a10@mail.gmail.com> <77cca14265a12b7ea24ffa.20070719094111.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: If you have not already, go to www.bandofheathens.com Most computers will start to autoplay the 4 songs that are on the site. I "think" this might be some of today's music, that you CAN listen to, and enjoy. We had the pleasure of spending a few hours with the band, hosting them at a BBQ down in Galveston. You would be hard pressed to find a nicer bunch of guys. Very quiet and unassuming, without all the bullshit and bravado that is generally associated with performers, and their ilk. Such as the Cap'n's lust of his life, Britney....... On 7/19/07, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: > The more I listen to today's music, the more I go back to the classics > stations that play the 60s and 70s music. > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > > > Jim Johnson > > On 7/19/07, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: > >> Well neither do I except for the music I heard in "O Brother Where Art > >> Thou", which I thoroughly enjoyed. > > > > Yeah, there was a brief surge in popularity for traditional Bluegrass > > music when the movie came out and then it was forgotten by the radio > > stations instantly upon the arrival of the next Hip Hop "artist" > > release. Catchy tunes in that Hip Hop stuff, don't you think? The > > lyrics tell such charming stories and I find myself walking around > > whistling the tunes all day..... (gag!) > > > > Cheers!! > > Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Jul 19 11:10:13 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:10:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hard Water Spots In-Reply-To: <77cca14265a12b7ea24ffa.20070719094111.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: The more I listen to stations that play the 60s and 70s music, the more I want to hear Jerry Lee Lewis and Dave Brubeck. > The more I listen to today's music, the more I go back to the classics > stations that play the 60s and 70s music From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jul 19 11:14:45 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:14:45 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Hard Water Spots In-Reply-To: References: <000f01c7c9bd$03f331a0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> <20070719043210.97620.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6a40a11df0a109a0adf70a.20070718232020.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <43840a7e0707182353l7fad03c3o44966bbd566b26aa@mail.gmail.com> <3058a821aa78dca65aaa.20070719012607.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <43840a7e0707190917w68f0c276se87535da58f93a10@mail.gmail.com> <77cca14265a12b7ea24ffa.20070719094111.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707191014t26b12388ibbadf002ad180d60@mail.gmail.com> Hi, All this reminds me of that haunting olde tyme/bluegrass song about the hurricane that hit Galveston. I think the song might even be called Galveston. Tabby Thomas, father of Chris Thomas King (the black guitar player in O, Brother), has/had a place in town where you could go hear real good blues. I'm not sure if it is still running, though. If you are in this area and it is still running, it is worth a visit. Open mic nights were very good. Cheers, Derf From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Thu Jul 19 11:17:10 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Hard Water Spots In-Reply-To: References: <000f01c7c9bd$03f331a0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> <20070719043210.97620.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6a40a11df0a109a0adf70a.20070718232020.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <43840a7e0707182353l7fad03c3o44966bbd566b26aa@mail.gmail.com> <3058a821aa78dca65aaa.20070719012607.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <43840a7e0707190917w68f0c276se87535da58f93a10@mail.gmail.com> <77cca14265a12b7ea24ffa.20070719094111.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <2d28a7986a70e4adf2a.20070719101710.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Brad, I spent time down on 6th street in Austin going from bar to bar with a beer in my hand (gotta love those Texans). I really liked the live music coming out of those bars. I have actually been thinking of Texas for retirement in ten years or so. What part you in? Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Brad Fornal > If you have not already, go to www.bandofheathens.com > Most computers will start to autoplay the 4 songs that are on the site. > I "think" this might be some of today's music, that you CAN listen to, > and enjoy. > We had the pleasure of spending a few hours with the band, hosting > them at a BBQ down in Galveston. You would be hard pressed to find a > nicer bunch of guys. Very quiet and unassuming, without all the > bullshit and bravado that is generally associated with performers, and > their ilk. Such as the Cap'n's lust of his life, Britney....... > > On 7/19/07, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: >> The more I listen to today's music, the more I go back to the classics >> stations that play the 60s and 70s music. >> Mike MacLean >> 60 Sprite >> 56 BN2 >> >> >> Jim Johnson >> > On 7/19/07, rrengineer at dslextreme.com >> wrote: >> >> Well neither do I except for the music I heard in "O Brother Where >> Art >> >> Thou", which I thoroughly enjoyed. >> > >> > Yeah, there was a brief surge in popularity for traditional Bluegrass >> > music when the movie came out and then it was forgotten by the radio >> > stations instantly upon the arrival of the next Hip Hop "artist" >> > release. Catchy tunes in that Hip Hop stuff, don't you think? The >> > lyrics tell such charming stories and I find myself walking around >> > whistling the tunes all day..... (gag!) >> > >> > Cheers!! >> > Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jul 19 11:18:33 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 12:18:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hard Water Spots In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707191014t26b12388ibbadf002ad180d60@mail.gmail.com> References: <000f01c7c9bd$03f331a0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> <20070719043210.97620.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6a40a11df0a109a0adf70a.20070718232020.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <43840a7e0707182353l7fad03c3o44966bbd566b26aa@mail.gmail.com> <3058a821aa78dca65aaa.20070719012607.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <43840a7e0707190917w68f0c276se87535da58f93a10@mail.gmail.com> <77cca14265a12b7ea24ffa.20070719094111.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <5f00d9910707191014t26b12388ibbadf002ad180d60@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Do you know the name of the place perchance? We saw the Heathens at The Old Quarter Acoustic Cafe, in the old downtown district. It's near the old Opry House. On 7/19/07, derf wrote: > Hi, > All this reminds me of that haunting olde tyme/bluegrass song about > the hurricane that hit Galveston. I think the song might even be > called Galveston. > Tabby Thomas, father of Chris Thomas King (the black guitar player in > O, Brother), has/had a place in town where you could go hear real good > blues. I'm not sure if it is still running, though. If you are in > this area and it is still running, it is worth a visit. Open mic > nights were very good. > Cheers, > Derf > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jul 19 11:24:58 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 12:24:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hard Water Spots In-Reply-To: <2d28a7986a70e4adf2a.20070719101710.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <000f01c7c9bd$03f331a0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> <20070719043210.97620.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6a40a11df0a109a0adf70a.20070718232020.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <43840a7e0707182353l7fad03c3o44966bbd566b26aa@mail.gmail.com> <3058a821aa78dca65aaa.20070719012607.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <43840a7e0707190917w68f0c276se87535da58f93a10@mail.gmail.com> <77cca14265a12b7ea24ffa.20070719094111.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <2d28a7986a70e4adf2a.20070719101710.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: I'm north of Austin about 3 hours, just south outta Dallas/ Forth Worth. Austin has TONS of great music venues, and SXSW is just f'n amazing. Unfortunately, all the Californians moving in have pushed property values up, way above what most folks can afford. >From what I understand, a modest home out in CA, values at around a half mil, or there abouts. You can buy a new, two story home, close to 3,000 square feet, with a two car garage, in Texas, for around $250,000. Because of the flow of money into Austin, with all the immigrants from the west coast, the housing there is starting to get outrageous. Brad On 7/19/07, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: > Brad, > I spent time down on 6th street in Austin going from bar to bar with > a beer in my hand (gotta love those Texans). I really liked the live > music coming out of those bars. I have actually been thinking of > Texas for retirement in ten years or so. What part you in? > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > > > Brad Fornal > > If you have not already, go to www.bandofheathens.com > > Most computers will start to autoplay the 4 songs that are on the site. > > I "think" this might be some of today's music, that you CAN listen to, > > and enjoy. > > We had the pleasure of spending a few hours with the band, hosting > > them at a BBQ down in Galveston. You would be hard pressed to find a > > nicer bunch of guys. Very quiet and unassuming, without all the > > bullshit and bravado that is generally associated with performers, and > > their ilk. Such as the Cap'n's lust of his life, Britney....... > > > > On 7/19/07, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: > >> The more I listen to today's music, the more I go back to the classics > >> stations that play the 60s and 70s music. > >> Mike MacLean > >> 60 Sprite > >> 56 BN2 > >> > >> > >> Jim Johnson > >> > On 7/19/07, rrengineer at dslextreme.com > >> wrote: > >> >> Well neither do I except for the music I heard in "O Brother Where > >> Art > >> >> Thou", which I thoroughly enjoyed. > >> > > >> > Yeah, there was a brief surge in popularity for traditional Bluegrass > >> > music when the movie came out and then it was forgotten by the radio > >> > stations instantly upon the arrival of the next Hip Hop "artist" > >> > release. Catchy tunes in that Hip Hop stuff, don't you think? The > >> > lyrics tell such charming stories and I find myself walking around > >> > whistling the tunes all day..... (gag!) > >> > > >> > Cheers!! > >> > Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City > > > > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Thu Jul 19 11:30:01 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Hard Water Spots In-Reply-To: References: <000f01c7c9bd$03f331a0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> <20070719043210.97620.qmail@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6a40a11df0a109a0adf70a.20070718232020.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <43840a7e0707182353l7fad03c3o44966bbd566b26aa@mail.gmail.com> <3058a821aa78dca65aaa.20070719012607.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <43840a7e0707190917w68f0c276se87535da58f93a10@mail.gmail.com> <77cca14265a12b7ea24ffa.20070719094111.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <2d28a7986a70e4adf2a.20070719101710.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <7f8a1572a13eca276a.20070719103001.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> I wasn't exactly thinking of Austin (yuppie central). I would be looking for some land near a major city, but kinda remote. I want to either build a house or just plop down a pre-fab. The house is not important the large steel building with the upper loft and large garage space complete with lift, air compressor lines, lights etc., is. Temperate weather would be a plus. Mike Brad Fornal > I'm north of Austin about 3 hours, just south outta Dallas/ Forth Worth. > Austin has TONS of great music venues, and SXSW is just f'n amazing. > Unfortunately, all the Californians moving in have pushed property > values up, way above what most folks can afford. > From what I understand, a modest home out in CA, values at around a > half mil, or there abouts. You can buy a new, two story home, close to > 3,000 square feet, with a two car garage, in Texas, for around > $250,000. Because of the flow of money into Austin, with all the > immigrants from the west coast, the housing there is starting to get > outrageous. > > Brad > > On 7/19/07, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: >> Brad, >> I spent time down on 6th street in Austin going from bar to bar >> with >> a beer in my hand (gotta love those Texans). I really liked the live >> music coming out of those bars. I have actually been thinking of >> Texas for retirement in ten years or so. What part you in? >> Mike MacLean >> 60 Sprite >> 56 BN2 >> >> >> Brad Fornal >> > If you have not already, go to www.bandofheathens.com >> > Most computers will start to autoplay the 4 songs that are on the >> site. >> > I "think" this might be some of today's music, that you CAN listen to, >> > and enjoy. >> > We had the pleasure of spending a few hours with the band, hosting >> > them at a BBQ down in Galveston. You would be hard pressed to find a >> > nicer bunch of guys. Very quiet and unassuming, without all the >> > bullshit and bravado that is generally associated with performers, and >> > their ilk. Such as the Cap'n's lust of his life, Britney....... >> > >> > On 7/19/07, rrengineer at dslextreme.com >> wrote: >> >> The more I listen to today's music, the more I go back to the >> classics >> >> stations that play the 60s and 70s music. >> >> Mike MacLean >> >> 60 Sprite >> >> 56 BN2 >> >> >> >> >> >> Jim Johnson >> >> > On 7/19/07, rrengineer at dslextreme.com >> >> wrote: >> >> >> Well neither do I except for the music I heard in "O Brother Where >> >> Art >> >> >> Thou", which I thoroughly enjoyed. >> >> > >> >> > Yeah, there was a brief surge in popularity for traditional >> Bluegrass >> >> > music when the movie came out and then it was forgotten by the >> radio >> >> > stations instantly upon the arrival of the next Hip Hop "artist" >> >> > release. Catchy tunes in that Hip Hop stuff, don't you think? The >> >> > lyrics tell such charming stories and I find myself walking around >> >> > whistling the tunes all day..... (gag!) >> >> > >> >> > Cheers!! >> >> > Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City >> > >> >> > > > -- > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From wmgilroy at gmail.com Thu Jul 19 11:48:06 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:48:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: We need help with our Red Bull Soapbox Wildcard Voting Message-ID: <441250190707191048i5e0e441p9e8a31af0dd55e09@mail.gmail.com> Okay, I feel stupid about sending mail like this, but some guys here in Seattle and myself decided to entered the Red Bull Soapbox derby at the last minute. After minutes of planning a crack team with specially honed skills was assembled: Craig: A guy who will do anything thing no matter how stupid Me: I was asked because I have a welder and I joined because I heard they would have beer Chris: When we ran out of brainstorming ideas he was the only guy to answer his phone Brad: He was the biggest guy we knew and when we said we were going to strap in into a cart and send him hurtling down a hill, he said, "Uh, I'm in." Only about 40 cars get to compete in the race, but somehow in order to get into the contest, we need votes on the website in order to make it as the wildcard entry. You're allowed one vote per person per day until Aug. 8th. I'm asking you go to http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx each day and vote for team "Death Trap" until Aug. 8th and forward this onto anyone who can help spread the word. Help make our dreams of creating and racing a giant mousetrap with cheese down a hill in Fremont Sept. 29th! Imagine the video: a bunch of drunk rats with one hurtling to his death or a least an injury. Thanks, Bill PS. If you have a computer at home and work you can vote twice, help a nerd out. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jul 19 12:02:14 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 12:02:14 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Hard Water Spots In-Reply-To: <7f8a1572a13eca276a.20070719103001.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <000f01c7c9bd$03f331a0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> <6a40a11df0a109a0adf70a.20070718232020.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <43840a7e0707182353l7fad03c3o44966bbd566b26aa@mail.gmail.com> <3058a821aa78dca65aaa.20070719012607.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <43840a7e0707190917w68f0c276se87535da58f93a10@mail.gmail.com> <77cca14265a12b7ea24ffa.20070719094111.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <2d28a7986a70e4adf2a.20070719101710.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <7f8a1572a13eca276a.20070719103001.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707191102i45b8ac70u7f12ab80ae654da9@mail.gmail.com> Hi, If by temperate you mean hot, then Texas is for you. Look around New Braunfels. It is between Austin and San Antonio and has a nice water park for when the temperate weather boils your blood. You can be an near good music in Austin and near SA, too. Keep in mind that Texas is like a whole nother country. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jul 19 12:05:20 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 12:05:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: We need help with our Red Bull Soapbox Wildcard Voting In-Reply-To: <441250190707191048i5e0e441p9e8a31af0dd55e09@mail.gmail.com> References: <441250190707191048i5e0e441p9e8a31af0dd55e09@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707191105u7e1b362bo72686a2efe00ced4@mail.gmail.com> Ok, but it seems like your competition has an Aston Martin based racer. So, we are voting against the Brit sports car? You guys are at least drinking Guiness, right? From wmgilroy at gmail.com Thu Jul 19 12:19:34 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:19:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: We need help with our Red Bull Soapbox Wildcard Voting In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707191105u7e1b362bo72686a2efe00ced4@mail.gmail.com> References: <441250190707191048i5e0e441p9e8a31af0dd55e09@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910707191105u7e1b362bo72686a2efe00ced4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <441250190707191119y5269df11hb6fb00221efe525b@mail.gmail.com> We do drink Guinness. And beside once they build a paper mache Aston Martin it will be a shame to the British car industry. Help protect the memory. On 7/19/07, derf wrote: > > Ok, but it seems like your competition has an Aston Martin based > racer. So, we are voting against the Brit sports car? You guys are > at least drinking Guiness, right? From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jul 19 12:21:47 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:21:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: We need help with our Red Bull Soapbox Wildcard Voting Message-ID: <20070719182148.LMDI1592.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Tied for 1st place at 40%!! > From: "Bill Gilroy" > > Only about 40 cars get to compete in the race, but somehow in order to get > into the contest, we need votes on the website in order to make it as the > wildcard entry. You're allowed one vote per person per day until Aug. 8th. > > I'm asking you go to > http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx each day and > vote for team "Death Trap" until Aug. 8th and forward this onto anyone who > can help spread the word. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jul 19 12:23:16 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:23:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: We need help with our Red Bull Soapbox Wildcard Voting Message-ID: <20070719182316.YKKJ3229.tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> ... and leaking. ( I mean the car. ) > From: derf > > Ok, but it seems like your competition has an Aston Martin based > racer. So, we are voting against the Brit sports car? You guys are > at least drinking Guiness, right? From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jul 19 12:59:54 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:59:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: We need help with our Red Bull Soapbox Wildcard Voting In-Reply-To: <20070719182316.YKKJ3229.tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20070719182316.YKKJ3229.tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <43840a7e0707191159i5ddc0c63v8784912ed69a7f1f@mail.gmail.com> Now pulling out in front.... Peter C and the rest of the cheese-heads should get on board with this one! Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City On 7/19/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > ... and leaking. ( I mean the car. ) > > > From: derf > > > > Ok, but it seems like your competition has an Aston Martin based > > racer. So, we are voting against the Brit sports car? You guys are > > at least drinking Guiness, right? From wmgilroy at gmail.com Thu Jul 19 13:02:44 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 12:02:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: We need help with our Red Bull Soapbox Wildcard Voting In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0707191159i5ddc0c63v8784912ed69a7f1f@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070719182316.YKKJ3229.tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <43840a7e0707191159i5ddc0c63v8784912ed69a7f1f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <441250190707191202w33dcc3e1j5080a42de77190@mail.gmail.com> If "Cheese-head" is an insult we should refrain until after the voting is close. Then we can call them Cheese-heads to our hearts content. Thanks. The trick is going if you sweet people can remember to vote everyday. I am sure that will get you a spot in heaven. Trust me. -g On 7/19/07, Jim Johnson wrote: > > Now pulling out in front.... Peter C and the rest of the > cheese-heads should get on board with this one! > > Cheers!! > Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City > > On 7/19/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > > ... and leaking. ( I mean the car. ) > > > > > From: derf > > > > > > Ok, but it seems like your competition has an Aston Martin based > > > racer. So, we are voting against the Brit sports car? You guys are > > > at least drinking Guiness, right? > _______________________________________________ > wmgilroy at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jul 19 13:12:56 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:12:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: We need help with our Red Bull Soapbox Wildcard Voting Message-ID: <20070719191256.TCOY9197.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Remember what? Maybe you have to remind us every day? A spot in Havana, you say? > From: "Bill Gilroy" > The trick is going if you sweet people can remember to vote everyday. I am > sure that will get you a spot in heaven. Trust me. > > -g From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jul 19 13:15:57 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:15:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: We need help with our Red Bull Soapbox Wildcard Voting In-Reply-To: <441250190707191202w33dcc3e1j5080a42de77190@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070719182316.YKKJ3229.tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <43840a7e0707191159i5ddc0c63v8784912ed69a7f1f@mail.gmail.com> <441250190707191202w33dcc3e1j5080a42de77190@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070719141315.01c3ebb0@nosimport.com> I voted. But, using cheese to entrap mice is a waste! (unless you deepfry the mouse, too) Awful lot of 'holes in that cheese. remind me Peter c = At 02:02 PM 7/19/2007, Bill Gilroy wrote: >If "Cheese-head" is an insult we should refrain until after the voting is >close. Then we can call them Cheese-heads to our hearts content. Thanks. > >The trick is going if you sweet people can remember to vote everyday. I am >sure that will get you a spot in heaven. Trust me. > >-g > > > >On 7/19/07, Jim Johnson wrote: > > > > Now pulling out in front.... Peter C and the rest of the > > cheese-heads should get on board with this one! From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Jul 19 13:28:39 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 12:28:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Classical music? Message-ID: <380-220077419192839843@earthlink.net> Mike MacLean wrote: "The more I listen to today's music, the more I go back to the classics stations that play the 60s and 70s music." "Classics"? You mean Grey-Haired Old Coots' music! Sorry, way before my time! Buster Evans From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jul 19 13:31:48 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:31:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: We need help with our Red Bull Soapbox Wildcard Voting References: <20070719182316.YKKJ3229.tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca><43840a7e0707191159i5ddc0c63v8784912ed69a7f1f@mail.gmail.com><441250190707191202w33dcc3e1j5080a42de77190@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070719141315.01c3ebb0@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <001501c7ca3b$73a828b0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > But, using cheese to entrap mice is a waste! (unless you deepfry the > mouse, too) Even so, each step you take reduces the efficiency... mice are simply not very efficient at converting cheese into meef. Reminds me of the article in the Chicago Tribune the other day about these stupid globes they are putting up all over Chicago. Kinda like the cows a few years back... At any rate, one group of "global engineers" were trying to make a typically meaningless enviromental statement, so they used pneumatic tools wherever possible on their project... I guess they never followed that hose back to the compressor and wondered how that pressure got into that tank or where all that noise came from <;-) David Lieb From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jul 19 13:43:42 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:43:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: We need help with our Red Bull Soapbox Wildcard Voting In-Reply-To: <001501c7ca3b$73a828b0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <20070719182316.YKKJ3229.tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <43840a7e0707191159i5ddc0c63v8784912ed69a7f1f@mail.gmail.com> <441250190707191202w33dcc3e1j5080a42de77190@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070719141315.01c3ebb0@nosimport.com> <001501c7ca3b$73a828b0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <43840a7e0707191243s7f537412wb7684862b2a0111f@mail.gmail.com> On 7/19/07, David Lieb wrote: > > But, using cheese to entrap mice is a waste! (unless you deepfry the > > mouse, too) > > Even so, each step you take reduces the efficiency... mice are simply not > very efficient at converting cheese into meef. Sorry, David, buf my cardiologist has me on a *meef* free dief..... ;-) Cheers! Jim - 68 Midgef in Dodge Cify -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Jul 19 13:44:39 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 12:44:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Checking for Bondo Message-ID: <380-220077419194439187@earthlink.net> >From the TR List via Jim Bauder via Second Chance Garage One of the most frustrating things restorers have to face is the "surprise" hidden under a fresh coat of paint. You go out looking for a reasonably rust-free project car and the seller tells you that only thin films of body filler have been spread (over properly welded patches, of course.) You buy the car, take it home and strip away all the paint, only to find old rust areas that were improperly repaired and a thick layer of body filler hiding everything. That means you will have to repair it correctly and it also means you paid too much for the car. Next time you go out looking, leave that magnet home. Magnets don't really tell you there's a thick layer of filler unless there's no metal behind it. Instead, grab that Stud Sensor out of the toolbox. Stud Sensors are densitometers. They detect changes in density of materials, so if you slide one over a bad Bondo job its little lights will tell you there's something amiss. You might still want the car, but at least you won't pay too much. Second Chance Garage www.secondchancegarage.com From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 19 14:04:57 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:04:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: We need help with our Red Bull Soapbox Wildcard Voting References: <20070719182316.YKKJ3229.tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca><43840a7e0707191159i5ddc0c63v8784912ed69a7f1f@mail.gmail.com><441250190707191202w33dcc3e1j5080a42de77190@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070719141315.01c3ebb0@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <05ba01c7ca40$15ed9d40$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter C" To: "Bill Gilroy" ; "Jim Johnson" Cc: Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NLBC: We need help with our Red Bull Soapbox Wildcard Voting I voted. But, using cheese to entrap mice is a waste! (unless you deepfry the mouse, too) Awful lot of 'holes in that cheese. remind me Peter c ========================== Skip the mice. Go for the rats. There is a lot more meat on their bones. Gastronomically yours, LAD From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu Jul 19 14:29:00 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:29:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hard Water Spots In-Reply-To: <32274a86f8ba7d622a69783a.20070718195753.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <32274a86f8ba7d622a69783a.20070718195753.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10707191329j7afcf379ybe8fc09728f8f9df@mail.gmail.com> Quad-ott "0000" steel wool for glass. Test before using (glass may be 'soft'). From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Thu Jul 19 14:33:38 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:33:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: We need help with our Red Bull Soapbox WildcardVoting References: <441250190707191048i5e0e441p9e8a31af0dd55e09@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <017301c7ca44$181b2ed0$6501a8c0@actualshop> Being from Chicag (area) I Voted AGAIN!! HeeHee!! 50+% to 30+% !!! Anon From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jul 19 15:00:50 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:00:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget vs. VW Distributor In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707190640x26b3049of4aa90542b130e6c@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910707190640x26b3049of4aa90542b130e6c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <469FD102.8080901@comcast.net> derf wrote: > Anyone ever compared a Spridget distributor to a VW distributor? It is close but not easily adaptable. My kid has a dozen of them and I tried a few times. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jul 19 15:04:59 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:04:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Classical music? In-Reply-To: <380-220077419192839843@earthlink.net> References: <380-220077419192839843@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <469FD1FB.2090709@comcast.net> Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > Mike MacLean wrote: "The more I listen to today's music, I always wondered who listens to todays music? I wonder who says that "stuff" is music? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From dmg at bossig.com Thu Jul 19 15:16:21 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:16:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Windshield haze.... Message-ID: <469F7235.29794.8D4567@dmg.bossig.com> Reading all the great suggestions about cleaning water spots leads me to ask.... Is there a way to clear up the age-induced windshield haze on my Sprite?? Without making the windshield useless...!! And Yes! I've tried cleaning my tri-focals Made no difference ;^( tia - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From type79 at ix.netcom.com Thu Jul 19 15:24:38 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:24:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Classical music? Message-ID: <11280227.1184880278446.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> There's alot of GREAT music around today, new old / all styles, but it ain't on the radio. You have to search it out through the hipper cutting edge music publications or through musicians and people at least on the fringes of the industry. There's more great music out there than there is time in one's life to hear. jay fishbein wallingford, ct home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ "As far as I'm concerned, there will be no Beatle's reunion as long as John Lennon continues to remain dead." George Harrison -----Original Message----- >From: Frank Clarici >Sent: Jul 19, 2007 5:04 PM >To: b-evans at earthlink.net >Cc: Spridgets >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Classical music? > >Robert Bruce Evans wrote: >> Mike MacLean wrote: "The more I listen to today's music, > >I always wondered who listens to todays music? >I wonder who says that "stuff" is music? > >-- From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jul 19 15:58:32 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:58:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Classical music? In-Reply-To: <11280227.1184880278446.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <11280227.1184880278446.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <469FDE88.2090001@comcast.net> type79 at ix.netcom.com wrote: > There's alot of GREAT music around today, > > new old / all styles, > > but it ain't on the radio. Ah but it is on the radio. I found public radio, no commercials, and lots of new music mixed with old music. No jungle jive but new artists and new stuff from old artists. Oldies, Classic Rock, they all play the same 40 songs day in, day out, year after year, decade after decade. And then the people call in to request the same tune they played 20 minutes ago! Sheep! they all drive the same car and listen to the same song while eating the same crap. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Jul 19 16:22:07 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:22:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Hard Water Spots In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <393790.43984.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Billy Zoom wrote: > The more I listen to stations that play the 60s and > 70s music, the more I > want to hear Jerry Lee Lewis and Dave Brubeck. There were 2 really good punk bands in the late 70s, one from NY and the other from L.A. Ron Soave "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 From type79 at ix.netcom.com Thu Jul 19 16:24:54 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:24:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Hard Water Spots Message-ID: <25626006.1184883894477.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> That must have been an interesting album. jay fishbein wallingford, ct -----Original Message----- >From: Ron Soave >Sent: Jul 19, 2007 6:22 PM >To: Billy Zoom , rrengineer at dslextreme.com, Jim Johnson >Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hard Water Spots > >--- Billy Zoom wrote: >> The more I listen to stations that play the 60s and >> 70s music, the more I >> want to hear Jerry Lee Lewis and Dave Brubeck. From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Thu Jul 19 17:46:21 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:46:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Windshield haze.... References: <469F7235.29794.8D4567@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <00fb01c7ca5f$034c89c0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Hi Dave, Where is the haze? On the glass surface or the special glue sheet in the middle between the front and glass surface that makes the safety laminate? If it's the latter one, a new windshield pretty well clears it up. BUT!! Many new windshields are made with a small amount of haze remaining after the sandwich process. (Also lots of tiny bubbles, too!) Later, Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G." To: "spridgets List" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 2:16 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Windshield haze.... > Reading all the great suggestions about cleaning water spots leads me to > ask.... > Is there a way to clear up the age-induced windshield haze on my Sprite?? > Without making the windshield useless...!! > And Yes! I've tried cleaning my tri-focals > Made no difference ;^( > > tia > - > Dave G > '65 MKIII Sprite From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Jul 19 19:16:56 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:16:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Classical music? In-Reply-To: <11280227.1184880278446.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <11280227.1184880278446.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <46A00D08.9030602@earthlink.net> >type79 at ix.netcom.com wrote: "There's alot of GREAT music around today, new old / all styles, but it ain't on the radio. > I can get any kind of music I want on XM radio (www.xmradio.com), from Beethoven (Channel 110) to Glenn Miller (Channel 4) to Hank Williams (Channel 13). Or I can listen to some of gthe old radio dramas like Gunsmoke or comedians such as Jack Benny (Channel 164). The same satellite station has a channel that will meet everyone's listening pleasure from news (15 different channels), sports (18 channels), talk and variety (20), and on and on and on. Sirus satellite radio has much the same programming. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Jul 19 19:27:24 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:27:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Classical music? In-Reply-To: <46A00D08.9030602@earthlink.net> Message-ID: > on XM radio (www.xmradio.com), I'd rather puncture my eardrums with a rusty nail than put money in the pocket of Lee Abrams. You want to know why new music sucks? Google Lee Abrams. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jul 19 19:31:27 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:31:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Classical music? References: Message-ID: <038f01c7ca6d$b1cc7100$0401a8c0@midget> >> on XM radio (www.xmradio.com), > I'd rather puncture my eardrums with a rusty nail than put money in the > pocket of Lee Abrams. > You want to know why new music sucks? Google Lee Abrams. I dunno bout Lee, but I was never particularly impressed by any form of satelite radio. I suppose if I were a trucker, I would appreciate not having to search for stations, but I can carry a handful of CDs full of MP3 files and drive across the country listening to music I want to hear instaed of what someone else thinks I should hear... From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Jul 19 19:39:08 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:39:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Classical music? In-Reply-To: <038f01c7ca6d$b1cc7100$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: > drive across the country listening to music I want to hear instaed of > what someone else thinks I should hear... You mean what Lee Abrams wants you to hear? He ruined regular radio, now he's moved to satellite radio. All commercial music radio in this country after about 1973 was was controlled by Lee Abrams. That's why it was so bad. From lists at woozy.com Thu Jul 19 19:41:02 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:41:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Classical music? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46A012AE.8030200@woozy.com> It just figures that a Realtor would be behind all of this! http://www.leeabrams.com/ ;-) Robert Billy Zoom wrote: >> on XM radio (www.xmradio.com), >> > I'd rather puncture my eardrums with a rusty nail than put money in the > pocket of Lee Abrams. > You want to know why new music sucks? Google Lee Abrams. > _______________________________________________ > lists at woozy.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jul 19 19:55:15 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:55:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Classical music? In-Reply-To: <46A00D08.9030602@earthlink.net> References: <11280227.1184880278446.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <46A00D08.9030602@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <46A01603.5060101@comcast.net> b-evans at earthlink.net wrote: >> type79 at ix.netcom.com wrote: "There's alot of GREAT music around today, new old / all styles, but it ain't on the radio. >> > I can get any kind of music I want on XM radio Yeah, I have Sirius satellite for a few years now. Regular radio is for people who drive generic cars. ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Thu Jul 19 20:01:08 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:01:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Classical music? In-Reply-To: <46A012AE.8030200@woozy.com> Message-ID: <200707200157.l6K1vk9w001423@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> That has to be the $)(%*$ funniest and most off the wall response I have seen in a while. It all makes sense now. Thanks! Chris 66MKIII 2000 BMW 528iT XM Subscriber Brookfield, WI -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Weeks Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:41 PM To: Billy Zoom Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Classical music? It just figures that a Realtor would be behind all of this! http://www.leeabrams.com/ ;-) Robert Billy Zoom wrote: >> on XM radio (www.xmradio.com), >> > I'd rather puncture my eardrums with a rusty nail than put money in the > pocket of Lee Abrams. > You want to know why new music sucks? Google Lee Abrams. From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Thu Jul 19 20:30:13 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 19:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: BusterCluster article In-Reply-To: <469F878F.80205@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <603867.27191.qm@web38912.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Buster, I got a very nice email from Theodore today. He thanked me for the picture and information. So i am set now. I guess the first message went in a bit bucket some where out in internet land. Now it is not me holding things up. Cheers, Vigil b-evans at earthlink.net wrote: Vigil... His e-mail is grot at toroidalcavity.fsnet.co.uk . For those of you at the BusterCluster, the "list" is of those from whom Theo has received a mug shot. . Paul Asgeirsson . Frank Clarici . Al Clemens . Robert Houston . Jim Johnson . Warren Pierce . Mike Rivers . Jim Rogers . Ron Soave Those of you who have not responded to Theo, you need to send him a mug shot and answers to these questions: . Name: . Location: . Occupation: . What I did: . How many miles I travelled: . How many OSHITs under my belt: . What cars I own: . Name: . Location: . Occupation: . What I did: . How many miles I travelled: . How many OSHITs under my belt: . What cars I own: Buster Buster uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com wrote: > .I sent a picture a while back and was not on the list.. How do we > know if he gets It? I sent another today. This was after talking to > Paul a few weeks ago. > > Vigil > > Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > > One of the e-mails that apparently did not get to everyone to whom > it was sent was one that dealt with the "mug shots" and > information that Theo Gillam needs for the BusterCluster article > scheduled for the October issue. In it, I explained that he had > not even received half of those who were at the BusterCluster. I > would hope that those of you who have not sent one would do so > quickly. It would be a shame not to have this feature included in > the story, for it would truly give credit to those who made it > such a mystical, magical weekend. Those who he has received a mug > shot and information from include: > > . Paul Asgeirsson > . Frank Clarici > . Al Clemens > . Robert Houston > . Jim Johnson > . Warren Pierce > . Mike Rivers > . Jim Rogers > . Ron Soave > > If you have misplaced the information he needed, it is: > > . Name: > . Location: > . Occupation: > . What I did: > . How many miles I travelled: > . How many OSHITs under my belt: > . What cars I own: > . Name: > . Location: > . Occupation: > . What I did: > . How many miles I travelled: > . How many OSHITs under my belt: > . What cars I own: > > If you have misplaced his e-mail address, it is: > grot at toroidalcavity.fsnet.co.uk > > > So get those mug shots in. 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From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Thu Jul 19 20:32:34 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:32:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Classical music? References: <11280227.1184880278446.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <46A00D08.9030602@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <011a01c7ca76$41761d80$6501a8c0@actualshop> Buster: I may be approaching "aged" era, BUT... <> WHAT, pray tell, is "gthe" old radio...?? Anon From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Thu Jul 19 20:34:18 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:34:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Classical music? In-Reply-To: <46A00D08.9030602@earthlink.net> References: <11280227.1184880278446.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <46A00D08.9030602@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0707191934q4ddc2014gc56372ac0c918b84@mail.gmail.com> Hey there Buddays. XM 202 for life. On 7/19/07, b-evans at earthlink.net wrote: > >type79 at ix.netcom.com wrote: "There's alot of GREAT music around today, new old / all styles, but it ain't on the radio. > > > I can get any kind of music I want on XM radio (www.xmradio.com), from > Beethoven (Channel 110) to Glenn Miller (Channel 4) to Hank Williams > (Channel 13). Or I can listen to some of gthe old radio dramas like > Gunsmoke or comedians such as Jack Benny (Channel 164). The same > satellite station has a channel that will meet everyone's listening > pleasure from news (15 different channels), sports (18 channels), talk > and variety (20), and on and on and on. > > Sirus satellite radio has much the same programming. > _______________________________________________ -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jul 19 22:16:13 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 23:16:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hard Water Spots In-Reply-To: <25626006.1184883894477.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <25626006.1184883894477.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0707192116v5faf8058gef7d45598cde1c73@mail.gmail.com> Yeah. Such great songs as "Blue Rondo al La Boogie", and "Great Balls of Fire; Take Five".... Didn't Brubeck marry his 14 year old cousin?? Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City On 7/19/07, type79 at ix.netcom.com wrote: > That must have been an interesting album. > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Ron Soave > >Sent: Jul 19, 2007 6:22 PM > >To: Billy Zoom , rrengineer at dslextreme.com, Jim Johnson > >Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hard Water Spots > > > >--- Billy Zoom wrote: > >> The more I listen to stations that play the 60s and > >> 70s music, the more I > >> want to hear Jerry Lee Lewis and Dave Brubeck. > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From smarc at smarc.net Thu Jul 19 22:27:48 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 00:27:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] got a bleeder... Message-ID: <46A039C4.7070804@smarc.net> well, sort of... Got a big ol bottle of Castrol LMA brake juice and filled it up and commenced bleeding. I'm having fun... Background - all new hoses, wheel cylinders, rebuilt calipers... Master was pretty much empty... started at RR, attached mityvac & reservoir, pulled vacuum on bleeder till fluid began to flow, continued to LR, then RF and LF. Just can't get a good pedal.... pumping 2 - 3 times gets some pressure, hold that and crack the bleeders, seems to get a bunch more air out... Have done this procedure several times on MGB's with great success. Never had a spridget before. Letting it sit overnight, will bleed again tomorrow. Maybe the air will have migrated some by then. Any special spridget tricks or incantations I should know? Wave a rubber chicken over it? -- Marc From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jul 19 22:32:32 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 23:32:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Classical music? In-Reply-To: <469FDE88.2090001@comcast.net> References: <11280227.1184880278446.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <469FDE88.2090001@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0707192132l39423b09y8bb827e6e67ba5a0@mail.gmail.com> On 7/19/07, Frank Clarici wrote: > > Sheep! they all drive the same car and listen to the same song while > eating the same crap. Peer pressure to be an rugged individualist is incredible among younger people. The kid across the street from us fell off his skate board because the crotch of his pants went clear below his knees. He got about six square inches of "road raspberry" on one side of his face. Two days later every kid in the high school had a big, raw, red patch on one side of their face! ;-) BTW, Buster's idea of classic music can be produced with a stick beating on a hollow log... Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jul 19 22:42:51 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 23:42:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: BusterCluster article In-Reply-To: <603867.27191.qm@web38912.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <469F878F.80205@earthlink.net> <603867.27191.qm@web38912.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0707192142p39ff716agb058e852ec47bdc@mail.gmail.com> Funny... Theo sent me an email a while back wanting to know why so many of us look exactly like Tom Cruise and Richard Gere..... I told him it was just coincidence. I, however, am an identical twin to John Wayne. Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jul 19 22:52:47 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 23:52:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] got a bleeder... In-Reply-To: <46A039C4.7070804@smarc.net> References: <46A039C4.7070804@smarc.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0707192152y63ea93pa4542655c963c8e0@mail.gmail.com> What year is the car? On later cars there are two brake circuits to bleed. Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City On 7/19/07, Marc wrote: > well, sort of... Got a big ol bottle of Castrol LMA brake juice and > filled it up and commenced bleeding. I'm having fun... > > Background - all new hoses, wheel cylinders, rebuilt calipers... Master > was pretty much empty... > > started at RR, attached mityvac & reservoir, pulled vacuum on bleeder > till fluid began to flow, continued to LR, then RF and LF. Just can't > get a good pedal.... pumping 2 - 3 times gets some pressure, hold that > and crack the bleeders, seems to get a bunch more air out... > > Have done this procedure several times on MGB's with great success. > Never had a spridget before. Letting it sit overnight, will bleed again > tomorrow. Maybe the air will have migrated some by then. > > Any special spridget tricks or incantations I should know? Wave a rubber > chicken over it? > > -- > Marc > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From smarc at smarc.net Fri Jul 20 00:55:37 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 02:55:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] got a bleeder... In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0707192152y63ea93pa4542655c963c8e0@mail.gmail.com> References: <46A039C4.7070804@smarc.net> <43840a7e0707192152y63ea93pa4542655c963c8e0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46A05C69.8000909@smarc.net> 73... Bled front and rear... what else is there? Marc Jim Johnson wrote: What year is the car? On later cars there are two brake circuits to bleed. Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City On 7/19/07, Marc wrote: well, sort of... Got a big ol bottle of Castrol LMA brake juice and filled it up and commenced bleeding. I'm having fun... Background - all new hoses, wheel cylinders, rebuilt calipers... Master was pretty much empty... started at RR, attached mityvac & reservoir, pulled vacuum on bleeder till fluid began to flow, continued to LR, then RF and LF. Just can't get a good pedal.... pumping 2 - 3 times gets some pressure, hold that and crack the bleeders, seems to get a bunch more air out... Have done this procedure several times on MGB's with great success. Never had a spridget before. Letting it sit overnight, will bleed again tomorrow. Maybe the air will have migrated some by then. Any special spridget tricks or incantations I should know? Wave a rubber chicken over it? -- Marc From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jul 20 01:19:00 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 02:19:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] got a bleeder... In-Reply-To: <46A05C69.8000909@smarc.net> References: <46A039C4.7070804@smarc.net> <43840a7e0707192152y63ea93pa4542655c963c8e0@mail.gmail.com> <46A05C69.8000909@smarc.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0707200019h2354d2dfsa7e105893dbed62b@mail.gmail.com> Then you have two brake circuits. On the right front fender well there should be an "H" shaped compensator. This routes the hydraulic pressure. If I remember correctly the two circuits are the left side of the car and the right side of the car. My Haynes manual describes the bleeding sequence for this system. Somebody more familiar with this jump in here and give Marc a hand.... Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City On 7/20/07, Marc wrote: > > 73... Bled front and rear... what else is there? > Marc > > > Jim Johnson wrote: > What year is the car? On later cars there are two brake circuits to bleed. > > Cheers!! > Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City > > On 7/19/07, Marc wrote: > > > well, sort of... Got a big ol bottle of Castrol LMA brake juice and > filled it up and commenced bleeding. I'm having fun... > > Background - all new hoses, wheel cylinders, rebuilt calipers... Master > was pretty much empty... > > started at RR, attached mityvac & reservoir, pulled vacuum on bleeder > till fluid began to flow, continued to LR, then RF and LF. Just can't > get a good pedal.... pumping 2 - 3 times gets some pressure, hold that > and crack the bleeders, seems to get a bunch more air out... > > Have done this procedure several times on MGB's with great success. > Never had a spridget before. Letting it sit overnight, will bleed again > tomorrow. Maybe the air will have migrated some by then. > > Any special spridget tricks or incantations I should know? Wave a rubber > chicken over it? > > -- > Marc > > > > > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From efrenken at lctax.de Fri Jul 20 02:30:44 2007 From: efrenken at lctax.de (Frenken, Eric) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 10:30:44 +0200 Subject: [Spridgets] got a bleeder... Message-ID: <8F0D0744B564D511B0820002A551BB1A6FBE99@lc-d-3.lctax.ads> Hi Jim, I can hardly imagine that on a two circuit braking system one circuit is for left and one for right. Imagine one circuit failing. The car would pull to one side. The systems I know of are always one for front, one for the rear. Cheers Brits'n'Pieces Eric http://brits-n-pieces.com Then you have two brake circuits. On the right front fender well there should be an "H" shaped compensator. This routes the hydraulic pressure. If I remember correctly the two circuits are the left side of the car and the right side of the car. My Haynes manual describes the bleeding sequence for this system. Somebody more familiar with this jump in here and give Marc a hand.... Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s] From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 20 06:06:34 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 07:06:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: We need help with our Red Bull Soapbox WildcardVoting References: <441250190707191048i5e0e441p9e8a31af0dd55e09@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <06c501c7cac6$6b909000$6401a8c0@Larry> BG, just got today's vote in. Did you put this to other lists -- MG, Bugeye Yahoo etc.? LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Gilroy" To: "Spridget Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 12:48 PM Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: We need help with our Red Bull Soapbox WildcardVoting Okay, I feel stupid about sending mail like this, but some guys here in Seattle and myself decided to entered the Red Bull Soapbox derby at the last minute. After minutes of planning a crack team with specially honed skills was assembled: Craig: A guy who will do anything thing no matter how stupid Me: I was asked because I have a welder and I joined because I heard they would have beer Chris: When we ran out of brainstorming ideas he was the only guy to answer his phone Brad: He was the biggest guy we knew and when we said we were going to strap in into a cart and send him hurtling down a hill, he said, "Uh, I'm in." Only about 40 cars get to compete in the race, but somehow in order to get into the contest, we need votes on the website in order to make it as the wildcard entry. You're allowed one vote per person per day until Aug. 8th. I'm asking you go to http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx each day and vote for team "Death Trap" until Aug. 8th and forward this onto anyone who can help spread the word. Help make our dreams of creating and racing a giant mousetrap with cheese down a hill in Fremont Sept. 29th! Imagine the video: a bunch of drunk rats with one hurtling to his death or a least an injury. Thanks, Bill PS. If you have a computer at home and work you can vote twice, help a nerd out. _______________________________________________ ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From caws52803 at aol.com Fri Jul 20 06:14:34 2007 From: caws52803 at aol.com (caws52803 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 08:14:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: We need help with our Red Bull Soapbox WildcardVoting In-Reply-To: <06c501c7cac6$6b909000$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <441250190707191048i5e0e441p9e8a31af0dd55e09@mail.gmail.com> <06c501c7cac6$6b909000$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <8C998DEAB25BD5C-1DEC-B351@MBLK-M01.sysops.aol.com> Another vote from North Carolina! Rudy Streng -----Original Message----- From: Larry Daniels To: Bill Gilroy ; Spridget Mailing List Sent: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 8:06 am Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NLBC: We need help with our Red Bull Soapbox WildcardVoting BG, just got today's vote in. Did you put this to other lists -- MG, Bugeye Yahoo etc.? LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Gilroy" To: "Spridget Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 12:48 PM Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: We need help with our Red Bull Soapbox WildcardVoting Okay, I feel stupid about sending mail like this, but some guys here in Seattle and myself decided to entered the Red Bull Soapbox derby at the last minute. After minutes of planning a crack team with specially honed skills was assembled: Craig: A guy who will do anything thing no matter how stupid Me: I was asked because I have a welder and I joined because I heard they would have beer Chris: When we ran out of brainstorming ideas he was the only guy to answer his phone Brad: He was the biggest guy we knew and when we said we were going to strap in into a cart and send him hurtling down a hill, he said, "Uh, I'm in." Only about 40 cars get to compete in the race, but somehow in order to get into the contest, we need votes on the website in order to make it as the wildcard entry. You're allowed one vote per person per day until Aug. 8th. I'm asking you go to http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx each day and vote for team "Death Trap" until Aug. 8th and forward this onto anyone who can help spread the word. Help make our dreams of creating and racing a giant mousetrap with cheese down a hill in Fremont Sept. 29th! Imagine the video: a bunch of drunk rats with one hurtling to his death or a least an injury. Thanks, Bill PS. If you have a computer at home and work you can vote twice, help a nerd out. _______________________________________________ ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _______________________________________________ caws52803 at aol.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri Jul 20 06:15:16 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 07:15:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: We need help with our Red Bull Soapbox WildcardVoting In-Reply-To: <06c501c7cac6$6b909000$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <441250190707191048i5e0e441p9e8a31af0dd55e09@mail.gmail.com> <06c501c7cac6$6b909000$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: If it gets down to the wire again, I'll forward Gilroy's request to the Drive By Truckers list. With around 1500 members, that would push the margin open a bit... On 7/20/07, Larry Daniels wrote: > BG, just got today's vote in. Did you put this to other lists -- MG, Bugeye > Yahoo etc.? > > LAD > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Gilroy" > To: "Spridget Mailing List" > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 12:48 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: We need help with our Red Bull Soapbox > WildcardVoting > > > Okay, I feel stupid about sending mail like this, but some guys here in > Seattle and myself decided to entered the Red Bull Soapbox derby at the last > minute. After minutes of planning a crack team with specially honed skills > was assembled: > > Craig: A guy who will do anything thing no matter how stupid > Me: I was asked because I have a welder and I joined because I heard they > would have beer > Chris: When we ran out of brainstorming ideas he was the only guy to answer > his phone > Brad: He was the biggest guy we knew and when we said we were going to strap > in into a cart and send him hurtling down a hill, he said, "Uh, I'm in." > > Only about 40 cars get to compete in the race, but somehow in order to get > into the contest, we need votes on the website in order to make it as the > wildcard entry. You're allowed one vote per person per day until Aug. 8th. > > > > > I'm asking you go to > http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx each day and > vote for team "Death Trap" until Aug. 8th and forward this onto anyone who > can help spread the word. > > > > Help make our dreams of creating and racing a giant mousetrap with cheese > down a hill in Fremont Sept. 29th! Imagine the video: a bunch of drunk > rats with one hurtling to his death or a least an injury. > > > > Thanks, > > Bill > > > PS. If you have a computer at home and work you can vote twice, help a nerd > out. > _______________________________________________ > ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Fri Jul 20 06:28:16 2007 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 07:28:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] got a bleeder... In-Reply-To: <8F0D0744B564D511B0820002A551BB1A6FBE99@lc-d-3.lctax.ads> References: <8F0D0744B564D511B0820002A551BB1A6FBE99@lc-d-3.lctax.ads> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0707200528x4936f823h665d1c9652730897@mail.gmail.com> Some cars actually do diagonal circuits with one front brake paired with the rear brake on the opposite side. Front & rear is correct on the later Midgets. I can't help Marc as my '73 has been changed over to a single circuit by the DPO but I thought the suggested sequence was LR, RR, RF, then LF according to line lengths. Hang in there Marc. As I recall we both started down this road about the same time making many of the same repairs. My friends at work have suggested I name my car "Nessie" - similar to the Loch Ness Monster, you hear about it but you never see it! After having tooled around close to town for several trips I'm finally going to make the 30 mile commute to work today to show them that this car really does exist! From bpazur at excel.net Fri Jul 20 07:16:57 2007 From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 08:16:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hard Water Spots Now Music Message-ID: <200707201316.l6KDGvAZ010300@green.excel.net> Ron wrote: There were 2 really good punk bands in the late 70s, one from NY Yeah - The Ramones, right? I saw them at CBGB. Bud Pazur '60 Bugeye - Street Car - 1275cc - 'Mr. White' Race Spridget - 1275cc - 'SilverStreak' "The Buddha ... resides as comfortably in the gears of a ...transmission as he does in the petals of a flower." - Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri Jul 20 07:45:50 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 08:45:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OT: Anyone in North Texas Message-ID: Looking for a good project? A lady here at work has a friend selling their 1971 Chevy Stepside truck. I was told it needs a carb, and that they want $300 for it. I have the #, if you're interested, hit me off list. NO, I do NOT know if it is a V8 or straight 6. I don't know if it needs a 2 bbl or a Quadrajet. I just tried calling myself, but only got the machine. Brad -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From smarc at smarc.net Fri Jul 20 07:53:18 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:53:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] got a bleeder... In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0707200019h2354d2dfsa7e105893dbed62b@mail.gmail.com> References: <46A039C4.7070804@smarc.net> <43840a7e0707192152y63ea93pa4542655c963c8e0@mail.gmail.com> <46A05C69.8000909@smarc.net> <43840a7e0707200019h2354d2dfsa7e105893dbed62b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46A0BE4E.8040708@smarc.net> I'm not sure what a compensator is, but my understanding is that the H shaped device is a switch that senses a pressure differential between the front and rear circuits to warn of a problem should there be a pressure loss in either circuit... That's tied to the warning light on the dash. Marc Jim Johnson wrote: Then you have two brake circuits. On the right front fender well there should be an "H" shaped compensator. This routes the hydraulic pressure. If I remember correctly the two circuits are the left side of the car and the right side of the car. My Haynes manual describes the bleeding sequence for this system. Somebody more familiar with this jump in here and give Marc a hand.... Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City On 7/20/07, Marc wrote: 73... Bled front and rear... what else is there? Marc Jim Johnson wrote: What year is the car? On later cars there are two brake circuits to bleed. Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City On 7/19/07, Marc wrote: well, sort of... Got a big ol bottle of Castrol LMA brake juice and filled it up and commenced bleeding. I'm having fun... Background - all new hoses, wheel cylinders, rebuilt calipers... Master was pretty much empty... started at RR, attached mityvac & reservoir, pulled vacuum on bleeder till fluid began to flow, continued to LR, then RF and LF. Just can't get a good pedal.... pumping 2 - 3 times gets some pressure, hold that and crack the bleeders, seems to get a bunch more air out... Have done this procedure several times on MGB's with great success. Never had a spridget before. Letting it sit overnight, will bleed again tomorrow. Maybe the air will have migrated some by then. Any special spridget tricks or incantations I should know? Wave a rubber chicken over it? -- Marc From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jul 20 08:09:43 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:09:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] got a bleeder... In-Reply-To: <46A039C4.7070804@smarc.net> References: <46A039C4.7070804@smarc.net> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070720090024.01b89238@nosimport.com> Marc, A coupla things quickly come to mind. The PWDA (aka pressure warning differential actuator) .. the H shaped bit, if the system's been opened, it is likely that the shuttle inside is no longer centered. It should be. Remove the plastic switch, and with a small screwdriver, center the shuttle piston. You should see/feel a groove directly centered in the hole. There should be NO fluid in the hole or at the switch. If there is, a repair is warranted. Mityvac thing... best success seems to come if you have some Teflon tape on the bleed screw threads... not for sealing when the screws are closed, but for sealing around the threads when a screw is open. You should start at the farthest cylinder/screw from the master. That would be the left rear, then right rear, then left front, then right front. I've had better success not using a Mityvac, but chacun a son gout. Peter C. Or call me ===== At 11:27 PM 7/19/2007, Marc wrote: >well, sort of... Got a big ol bottle of Castrol LMA brake juice and >filled it up and commenced bleeding. I'm having fun... > >Background - all new hoses, wheel cylinders, rebuilt calipers... Master >was pretty much empty... > >started at RR, attached mityvac & reservoir, pulled vacuum on bleeder >till fluid began to flow, continued to LR, then RF and LF. Just can't >get a good pedal.... pumping 2 - 3 times gets some pressure, hold that >and crack the bleeders, seems to get a bunch more air out... > >Have done this procedure several times on MGB's with great success. >Never had a spridget before. Letting it sit overnight, will bleed again >tomorrow. Maybe the air will have migrated some by then. > >Any special spridget tricks or incantations I should know? Wave a rubber >chicken over it? > >-- >Marc From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jul 20 08:19:25 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 08:19:25 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] New Smiths 130 MPH 3.5" Speedo, $50 Message-ID: <5f00d9910707200719t3208f57an5b1f7b4de8080eb4@mail.gmail.com> NFI, I ran across this on a VW board. I know some of you wacky Spridgeteers go over 100 MPH so this might be useful to you. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=446143 From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jul 20 08:42:57 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:42:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New Smiths 130 MPH 3.5" Speedo, $50 References: <5f00d9910707200719t3208f57an5b1f7b4de8080eb4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <004701c7cadc$4389d1f0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > NFI, I ran across this on a VW board. I know some of you wacky > Spridgeteers go over 100 MPH so this might be useful to you. Much better off with a Sigma Sport bicycle speedometer. Reads up to 199.5mph, gives you multiple odometers as well as max speed and ave speed functions. David Lieb From smarc at smarc.net Fri Jul 20 08:45:48 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 10:45:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] got a bleeder... In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070720090024.01b89238@nosimport.com> References: <46A039C4.7070804@smarc.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20070720090024.01b89238@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <46A0CA9C.8010401@smarc.net> Teflon tape on the screws seems to make sense to me... I originally started using the Mityvac to bleed cause my son always seemed to magically disappear when it's time to bleed hydraulics... But he showed up in mid-project last night so switched to the old press pedal, open / close bleeder, release pedal routine. I guess I could check the PWDA switch... but the brake warning light is not on, so I hadn't considered that to be a problem. Having been through this process with a few times before with the same setup, I've never had a problem there yet. Kind of like let sleeping dogs alone, so to speak... Marc Peter C wrote: Marc, A coupla things quickly come to mind. The PWDA (aka pressure warning differential actuator) .. the H shaped bit, if the system's been opened, it is likely that the shuttle inside is no longer centered. It should be. Remove the plastic switch, and with a small screwdriver, center the shuttle piston. You should see/feel a groove directly centered in the hole. There should be NO fluid in the hole or at the switch. If there is, a repair is warranted. Mityvac thing... best success seems to come if you have some Teflon tape on the bleed screw threads... not for sealing when the screws are closed, but for sealing around the threads when a screw is open. You should start at the farthest cylinder/screw from the master. That would be the left rear, then right rear, then left front, then right front. I've had better success not using a Mityvac, but chacun a son gout. Peter C. Or call me ===== At 11:27 PM 7/19/2007, Marc wrote: well, sort of... Got a big ol bottle of Castrol LMA brake juice and filled it up and commenced bleeding. I'm having fun... Background - all new hoses, wheel cylinders, rebuilt calipers... Master was pretty much empty... started at RR, attached mityvac & reservoir, pulled vacuum on bleeder till fluid began to flow, continued to LR, then RF and LF. Just can't get a good pedal.... pumping 2 - 3 times gets some pressure, hold that and crack the bleeders, seems to get a bunch more air out... Have done this procedure several times on MGB's with great success. Never had a spridget before. Letting it sit overnight, will bleed again tomorrow. Maybe the air will have migrated some by then. Any special spridget tricks or incantations I should know? Wave a rubber chicken over it? -- Marc From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jul 20 09:06:16 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:06:16 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] got a bleeder... In-Reply-To: <46A0CA9C.8010401@smarc.net> References: <46A039C4.7070804@smarc.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20070720090024.01b89238@nosimport.com> <46A0CA9C.8010401@smarc.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707200806l789f408foabbb7c8485af42e8@mail.gmail.com> Does that little light come on when you press the switch on the dash? From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jul 20 09:07:35 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 10:07:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] got a bleeder... In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707200806l789f408foabbb7c8485af42e8@mail.gmail.co m> References: <46A039C4.7070804@smarc.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20070720090024.01b89238@nosimport.com> <46A0CA9C.8010401@smarc.net> <5f00d9910707200806l789f408foabbb7c8485af42e8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070720100707.03669e18@nosimport.com> That's how you test the light, not the PWDA gizmo. At 10:06 AM 7/20/2007, derf wrote: >Does that little light come on when you press the switch on the dash? From smarc at smarc.net Fri Jul 20 09:07:53 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:07:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] got a bleeder... In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707200806l789f408foabbb7c8485af42e8@mail.gmail.com> References: <46A039C4.7070804@smarc.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20070720090024.01b89238@nosimport.com> <46A0CA9C.8010401@smarc.net> <5f00d9910707200806l789f408foabbb7c8485af42e8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46A0CFC9.3040200@smarc.net> Yep sure does, already checked that! Marc derf wrote: > Does that little light come on when you press the switch on the dash? From smarc at smarc.net Fri Jul 20 09:11:55 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:11:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] got a bleeder... In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070720100707.03669e18@nosimport.com> References: <46A039C4.7070804@smarc.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20070720090024.01b89238@nosimport.com> <46A0CA9C.8010401@smarc.net> <5f00d9910707200806l789f408foabbb7c8485af42e8@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070720100707.03669e18@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <46A0D0BB.5030306@smarc.net> Doh! Good point... If the pdwa switch is at one side or the other, would that affect bleeding? Doesn't seem like it, but what do I know?? I go to school everytime I pick up a wrench on these cars... Marc Peter C wrote: That's how you test the light, not the PWDA gizmo. At 10:06 AM 7/20/2007, derf wrote: Does that little light come on when you press the switch on the dash? __ From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jul 20 09:20:17 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:20:17 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] got a bleeder... In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070720100707.03669e18@nosimport.com> References: <46A039C4.7070804@smarc.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20070720090024.01b89238@nosimport.com> <46A0CA9C.8010401@smarc.net> <5f00d9910707200806l789f408foabbb7c8485af42e8@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070720100707.03669e18@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707200820hc9ed3a5w750492adc0b388c@mail.gmail.com> Yes, but doesn't the gizmo control the light? On 7/20/07, Peter C wrote: > That's how you test the light, not the PWDA gizmo. From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jul 20 09:31:15 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 10:31:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] got a bleeder... In-Reply-To: <46A0D0BB.5030306@smarc.net> References: <46A039C4.7070804@smarc.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20070720090024.01b89238@nosimport.com> <46A0CA9C.8010401@smarc.net> <5f00d9910707200806l789f408foabbb7c8485af42e8@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070720100707.03669e18@nosimport.com> <46A0D0BB.5030306@smarc.net> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070720101747.0366bb50@nosimport.com> Marc, The push test tells you the bulb is good in the dash indicator. It does not tell you if the switch on the PWDA is good, but honestly, it probably is if the light's not lit, or it's old, which it certainly IS! It's easy to remove the PWDA switch. It has given many people fits when they haven't checked the shuttle. Takes less than a minute. Peter = At 10:11 AM 7/20/2007, you wrote: >Doh! Good point... > >If the pdwa switch is at one side or the other, would that affect >bleeding? Doesn't seem like it, but what do I know?? I go to school >everytime I pick up a wrench on these cars... > >Marc > >Peter C wrote: >> >>That's how you test the light, not the PWDA gizmo. >> >> >>At 10:06 AM 7/20/2007, derf wrote: >> >> >>> >>>Does that little light come on when you press the switch on the dash? >>> >> >>__ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jul 20 10:26:34 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:26:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] got a bleeder... References: <46A039C4.7070804@smarc.net><7.0.1.0.2.20070720090024.01b89238@nosimport.com><46A0CA9C.8010401@smarc.net><5f00d9910707200806l789f408foabbb7c8485af42e8@mail.gmail.com><7.0.1.0.2.20070720100707.03669e18@nosimport.com><46A0D0BB.5030306@smarc.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20070720101747.0366bb50@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <005d01c7caea$bd3391e0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > The push test tells you the bulb is good in the dash > indicator. It does not tell you if the switch on the PWDA is good, > but honestly, it probably is if the light's not lit, or it's old, > which it certainly IS! > It's easy to remove the PWDA switch. It has given many > people fits when they haven't checked the shuttle. Takes less than a > minute. Actually, the light does test a little more than that. If you disconnect the wiring from the PWDA, the light is not supposed to work any more. OTOH, it is probably more meaningful to use a VOM on the PWDA. The Haynes manual includes directions for "re-centralizing" the shuttle hydraulically if the light does come on without pushing the button. It has worked for me. Sometimes takes a couple of iterations. David Lieb From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jul 20 11:26:01 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:26:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] got a bleeder... In-Reply-To: <46A0D0BB.5030306@smarc.net> References: <46A039C4.7070804@smarc.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20070720090024.01b89238@nosimport.com> <46A0CA9C.8010401@smarc.net> <5f00d9910707200806l789f408foabbb7c8485af42e8@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070720100707.03669e18@nosimport.com> <46A0D0BB.5030306@smarc.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707201026u56ad1b30x2d009e550a2accd8@mail.gmail.com> Hi, My point was really that if the light didn't work then somewhere along the way the PWDA or light was disabled. It is still a good idea to follow Peter's advice on checking the PWDA. Cheers, Derf From kristi74midget at comcast.net Fri Jul 20 12:10:39 2007 From: kristi74midget at comcast.net (Kristi & Lambert) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:10:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Starting problems Message-ID: Hi all, I am having a problem with getting my 74 midget to start. I went to drive it this morning had really no problems getting her started drove her to the gas station and of course turned the car off. When I went to restart the car I had electric but no turn over. There is a click from the selenoid when I turn the key but nothing else. We tried to push start the car and that worked kind of. I could get the car started but could not keep it running. We tried this twice and had the same result. I then decided to try the key again and it stared the car. I drove the car back home with no problems turned the car off then on again with no problems. Just tried to start the car again and now I have the same problem. Fuel pump is clicking, radio works but no turn over at the engine. Battery is new, cables are new, starter is new and selenoid is new. We have juice to the selenoid and to the starter at the right times but no turn over. Any thoughts on what might be happening? The connections are all good and tight, no grounding out that we can see, no wires in the wrong places. Cables are clean. We are at a loss. Thanks, Kristi and Lambert 74 RWA Midget From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jul 20 12:37:38 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:37:38 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Starting problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910707201137xd3f0205v72af0f7b2f5f8094@mail.gmail.com> Check the ground strap that connects the motor to the chassis. You can use 1/2 a set of jumper cables to make a temporary connection from the battery negative terminal to the block to get you going. From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Fri Jul 20 14:15:37 2007 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:15:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Starting problems Message-ID: <3564655.1184962537379.JavaMail.root@wmvirt5> starter is new Did you perchance torque the stud that the battery cable attaches to on the starter? They have a tendency to turn with the nut and pull on the wire on the inside... Then you have problems with the starter. Kent 1960 Bugeye 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Fri Jul 20 14:23:50 2007 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:23:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Check out this model - No LBC Message-ID: <27114333.1184963030345.JavaMail.root@wmvirt5> And people think we're nuts for fixing up our cars!!! http://www.bismarck-class.dk/shipmodels/german_models/admiralgrafspeeterra.html Kent 1960 Bugeye 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Fri Jul 20 14:22:33 2007 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:22:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Check out this model - No LBC Message-ID: <7162124.1184962954008.JavaMail.root@wmvirt5> And people think we're nuts for fixing up our cars!!! http://www.bismarck-class.dk/shipmodels/german_models/admiralgrafspeeterra.html Kent 1960 Bugeye 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen From RobertDuquette at Sympatico.ca Fri Jul 20 14:36:02 2007 From: RobertDuquette at Sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:36:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Clanging, banging, rattling in the transmission tunnel In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707181943x2726d170r2e4aac271e487f80@mail.gmail.com> References: <469CE7AE.6070404@woozy.com> <469CEF40.1050204@verizon.net><469CFC92.6030205@woozy.com> <469EB5D3.2040003@woozy.com> <5f00d9910707181943x2726d170r2e4aac271e487f80@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <011801c7cb0d$9a143f20$6501a8c0@RobertDuquette> Wench left in tunnel? That was another old thread that's best not to bring up again. -----Original Message----- From: derf OK, who had the money riding on "wrench left in tunnel"? From hal at katemuir.com Fri Jul 20 14:46:54 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:46:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Clanging, banging, rattling in the transmission tunnel In-Reply-To: <011801c7cb0d$9a143f20$6501a8c0@RobertDuquette> Message-ID: Hey, this better not have anything to do with Buster's car..... Hal -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Robert Duquette Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 1:36 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Clanging, banging, rattling in the transmission tunnel Wench left in tunnel? From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri Jul 20 14:46:37 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:46:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Check out this model - No LBC In-Reply-To: <27114333.1184963030345.JavaMail.root@wmvirt5> Message-ID: > people think we're nuts for fixing up our cars!!! But the boat has guns. I wish we could do that. Remember Rat Patrol? From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jul 20 14:54:46 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:54:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Clanging, banging, rattling in the transmission tunnel In-Reply-To: References: <011801c7cb0d$9a143f20$6501a8c0@RobertDuquette> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070720155412.0396b850@nosimport.com> That was an alley, not a tunnel. Ed At 03:46 PM 7/20/2007, Hal Faulkner wrote: >Hey, this better not have anything to do with Buster's car..... > >Hal > >-----Original Message----- >From: spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net >[mailto:spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of >Robert Duquette >Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 1:36 PM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Clanging, banging, rattling in the transmission >tunnel > > >Wench left in tunnel? From wmgilroy at gmail.com Fri Jul 20 15:42:13 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:42:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Clanging, banging, rattling in the transmission tunnel In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070720155412.0396b850@nosimport.com> References: <011801c7cb0d$9a143f20$6501a8c0@RobertDuquette> <7.0.1.0.2.20070720155412.0396b850@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <441250190707201442s4bcc03bei6a75aa5ff1b56384@mail.gmail.com> I think it was transmission in the tunnel of the wrench. On 7/20/07, Peter C wrote: > > That was an alley, not a tunnel. > > Ed > > At 03:46 PM 7/20/2007, Hal Faulkner wrote: > > >Hey, this better not have anything to do with Buster's car..... > > > >Hal > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net > >[mailto:spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of > >Robert Duquette > >Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 1:36 PM > >To: spridgets at autox.team.net > >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Clanging, banging, rattling in the transmission > >tunnel > > > > > >Wench left in tunnel? > _______________________________________________ > wmgilroy at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wmgilroy at gmail.com Fri Jul 20 15:45:24 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:45:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] I Love This List In-Reply-To: <200707191323.l6JDNiMl022551@green.excel.net> References: <200707191323.l6JDNiMl022551@green.excel.net> Message-ID: <441250190707201445j703a3c89o64d2406c5738cc70@mail.gmail.com> Does it have oil? On 7/19/07, Bud Pazur wrote: > > > You are right - the engine runs like a top and pulls strong. The only > somewhat scary thing is that it doesn''t leak oil anywhere - not at the > rear, > the front, or from the pan. That's not normal, is it? Seriously > Frank - > great engine. From grday at btinternet.com Fri Jul 20 15:51:36 2007 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:51:36 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Check out this model - No LBC References: <7162124.1184962954008.JavaMail.root@wmvirt5> Message-ID: <002401c7cb18$25914700$86bb8f56@tairswork> He's got the shells for real, why didn't he do the guns? GRD ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 9:22 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Check out this model - No LBC > And people think we're nuts for fixing up our cars!!! > > http://www.bismarck-class.dk/shipmodels/german_models/admiralgrafspeeterra.html > > Kent > 1960 Bugeye > 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen > _______________________________________________ > grday at btinternet.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Fri Jul 20 17:04:30 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 18:04:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Check out this model - No LBC In-Reply-To: <27114333.1184963030345.JavaMail.root@wmvirt5> References: <27114333.1184963030345.JavaMail.root@wmvirt5> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0707201604t7b220d21n799f5698a6ddc102@mail.gmail.com> I hope someone builds some models of Mitsubishi Zeroes. On 7/20/07, bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com wrote: > And people think we're nuts for fixing up our cars!!! > > http://www.bismarck-class.dk/shipmodels/german_models/admiralgrafspeeterra.html > > Kent > 1960 Bugeye > 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen > _______________________________________________ > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Fri Jul 20 17:06:39 2007 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:06:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: We need help with our Red Bull Soapbox Wildcard Voting In-Reply-To: <441250190707191048i5e0e441p9e8a31af0dd55e09@mail.gmail.com > References: <441250190707191048i5e0e441p9e8a31af0dd55e09@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070720190304.047309a8@littlebitcountry.com> If you vote once and then delete your cookies you can refresh the page and vote again, not that I would suggest or support cheating or anything. This way you don't have to remember to vote everyday. Dave >I'm asking you go to >http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx each day and >vote for team "Death Trap" until Aug. 8th and forward this onto anyone who >can help spread the word. > > > >Help make our dreams of creating and racing a giant mousetrap with cheese >down a hill in Fremont Sept. 29th! Imagine the video: a bunch of drunk >rats with one hurtling to his death or a least an injury. > > > >Thanks, > >Bill > > >PS. If you have a computer at home and work you can vote twice, help a nerd >out. From pythias at pacifier.com Fri Jul 20 17:20:19 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:20:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] New Smiths 130 MPH 3.5" Speedo, $50 In-Reply-To: <004701c7cadc$4389d1f0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <5f00d9910707200719t3208f57an5b1f7b4de8080eb4@mail.gmail.com> <004701c7cadc$4389d1f0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <10210198419.20070720162019@pacifier.com> Hello David, i see some of the sigma bicycle computers are even wireless!!!! which model(s) do you use/recommend?.. i'm about to put a 3.9 rear end in, and it'll change the speedo reading of course.. and my tach is temperature sensitive, so i can't do real calculations from that. -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com * If, a two letter word for futility. From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri Jul 20 17:45:32 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:45:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Clanging, banging, rattling in the transmission tunnel Message-ID: <380-220077520234532937@earthlink.net> Robert Duquette wrote: Wench left in tunnel? Hal Faulkner wrote: Hey, this better not have anything to do with Buster's car.. Buster wrote: Dont worry Hal, THAT wench found a Mustang to love. Says a better fit. From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Fri Jul 20 18:09:16 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:09:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Clanging, banging, rattling in the transmission tunnel References: <380-220077520234532937@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <019101c7cb2b$63f26250$6501a8c0@actualshop> <<Dont worry Hal, THAT wench found a Mustang to love. Says a better fit.>> Was "she" from the alley, Buster?? Do we even WANT to know what see looks like?? Gottsa Know, Esq./Editor Enquirer Mag. Scumbag City, CA From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Fri Jul 20 18:54:12 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:54:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: now starting problems.. In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070719082604.034c0930@nosimport.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070719082604.034c0930@nosimport.com> Message-ID: Ok, just to make sure I'm not nuts here.. With pulley showing at TDC * AND * rocker arms at firewall both loose and ready for adjustment * THEN * rotor should be pointing at wire for the same cylinder right?? And the fact that there is fuel puddling in the pre-supercharger manifold would indicate: a leaking carb or blockage to cylinder head or no suction. Lester On Jul 19, 2007, at 8:27 AM, Peter C wrote: > Absolutely. In fact, it is preferred. It does NOT take an external > resistor. (The Bosch red does require one) > > Peter C > ==== > At 08:13 AM 7/19/2007, you wrote: > >> Ok, >> >> this should be a quick one. Can anyone tell me if a Bosch Blue coil >> will work ok in the Bugeye. I have eliminated several problems and >> as noted earlier, this is a quick one to try. I have LOTS of blue >> coils hanging around soo.. >> >> Lester >> >> .. it's that resistor vs non thing I'm not sure of.. From lists at woozy.com Fri Jul 20 19:24:41 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 21:24:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Check out this model - No LBC In-Reply-To: <7162124.1184962954008.JavaMail.root@wmvirt5> References: <7162124.1184962954008.JavaMail.root@wmvirt5> Message-ID: <46A16059.7060305@woozy.com> I was doing a google search for this guy figuring that there must be some story about him losing his mind during the long Maine winters and I got a bit sidetracked and found this totally great site of vintage project plans from old magazines and other sources: http://www.vintageprojects.com/site-map.html I think I'm going to try building the jon boat first. My 5 1/2 year old son wants to be in on it too. There are plans from 1939 for making a farm tractor from Popular Mechanics and mini bike plans and all sorts of cool projects. Even plans for a fish head ash tray for your trophy catch! I don't know about anyone else here but I love this stuff. Robert bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com wrote: > And people think we're nuts for fixing up our cars!!! > > http://www.bismarck-class.dk/shipmodels/german_models/admiralgrafspeeterra.html > > Kent > 1960 Bugeye > 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen > _______________________________________________ > lists at woozy.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jul 20 19:29:02 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 20:29:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New Smiths 130 MPH 3.5" Speedo, $50 References: <5f00d9910707200719t3208f57an5b1f7b4de8080eb4@mail.gmail.com> <004701c7cadc$4389d1f0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <10210198419.20070720162019@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <03f301c7cb36$86912480$0401a8c0@midget> > i see some of the sigma bicycle computers are even wireless!!!! > which > model(s) do you use/recommend?.. I use the BC1200, but I believe it has been discontinued. I do not recommend the wireless, since there is a significant amount of groundplane between source and reader. I tried several different mountings to read the wheel rpm. First attempt was inside the brake drum, but it did not account for the amount of lateral motion of the hub and did not read consistently in corners and curves. The second attempt went to reading the driveshaft rotation at the diff. Nice consistent readings, but the pulses per second were too high for the computed functions... speed readout was perfect, but odo readings did not increment properly when you were over 60mph or so. When a 750 mile drive registerd as 400 miles, I figured I ought to correct something. Fortunately, the trip gave me plenty of time to figure out what might be causing it... I ended up using JB Weld to attach the magnet to the rear brake drum and mounting the reed switch on a metal strap attached to the backing plate. Works good. I am told that dollhouse wiring works well for extending the distance. David Lieb From pilotrob at msn.com Fri Jul 20 19:46:12 2007 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 01:46:12 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: Fwd: now starting problems.. Message-ID: "Fuel puddling in the blower manifold" Judson blower, Lester? Normal... CapBob -----Original Message----- From: oldsaabguy Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 8:54 PM To: Peter C, Robert E. Shlafer Cc: Spridgets List, bugeye at yahoogroups.com Subject: Bugeye Group..... Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: now starting problems.. Ok, just to make sure I'm not nuts here.. With pulley showing at TDC * AND * rocker arms at firewall both loose and ready for adjustment * THEN * rotor should be pointing at wire for the same cylinder right?? And the fact that there is fuel puddling in the pre-supercharger manifold would indicate: a leaking carb or blockage to cylinder head or no suction. Lester On Jul 19, 2007, at 8:27 AM, Peter C wrote: > Absolutely. In fact, it is preferred. It does NOT take an external > resistor. (The Bosch red does require one) > > Peter C > ==== > At 08:13 AM 7/19/2007, you wrote: > >> Ok, >> >> this should be a quick one. Can anyone tell me if a Bosch Blue coil >> will work ok in the Bugeye. I have eliminated several problems and >> as noted earlier, this is a quick one to try. I have LOTS of blue >> coils hanging around soo.. >> >> Lester >> >> .. it's that resistor vs non thing I'm not sure of.. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Fri Jul 20 19:52:58 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 20:52:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: Fwd: now starting problems.. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3CD716D1-FD7B-4A4C-B17D-8F8F014620B4@comcast.net> Close to a cup worth?? Really?? Lester .. yup, Judson On Jul 21, 2007, at 1:46 AM, Robert E. Shlafer wrote: > "Fuel puddling in the blower manifold" > > Judson blower, Lester? > > Normal... > > CapBob > > -----Original Message----- > From: oldsaabguy > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 8:54 PM > To: Peter C, Robert E. Shlafer > Cc: Spridgets List, bugeye at yahoogroups.com > Subject: Bugeye Group..... Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: now starting > problems.. > > Ok, > > just to make sure I'm not nuts here.. > > With pulley showing at TDC * AND * rocker arms at firewall both > loose and ready for adjustment * THEN * rotor should be pointing at > wire for the same cylinder right?? > > And the fact that there is fuel puddling in the pre-supercharger > manifold would indicate: > > a leaking carb or > > blockage to cylinder head or > > no suction. > > Lester > > On Jul 19, 2007, at 8:27 AM, Peter C wrote: > > > Absolutely. In fact, it is preferred. It does NOT take an external > > resistor. (The Bosch red does require one) > > > > Peter C > > ==== > > At 08:13 AM 7/19/2007, you wrote: > > > >> Ok, > >> > >> this should be a quick one. Can anyone tell me if a Bosch Blue coil > >> will work ok in the Bugeye. I have eliminated several problems and > >> as noted earlier, this is a quick one to try. I have LOTS of blue > >> coils hanging around soo.. > >> > >> Lester > >> > >> .. it's that resistor vs non thing I'm not sure of.. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > __._,_.___ > Messages in this topic (1)Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | > Calendar > If you must unsubscribe from the Bugeye Interest Group, please send > an email to: bugeye-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > If you no longer want to receive emails, but wish to remain a > member of the group, you may go to the website and change your > subscription to "Web Only" and you will not receive any emails. > > Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch > format to Traditional > Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe > Recent Activity > 19 > New Members > 5 > New Photos > Visit Your Group > SPONSORED LINKS > Austin healey > Austin healey part > Austin healey 3000 > Austin healey sprite > Austin healey for sale > Health Zone > Look your best! > > Groups to help you > > look & feel great. > > Yahoo! News > Fashion News > > What's the word on > > fashion and style? > > Yahoo! Finance > It's Now Personal > > Guides, news, > > advice & more. > > . > > __,_._,___ From smarc at smarc.net Fri Jul 20 20:01:32 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:01:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] got a bleeder... In-Reply-To: <46A0D0BB.5030306@smarc.net> References: <46A039C4.7070804@smarc.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20070720090024.01b89238@nosimport.com> <46A0CA9C.8010401@smarc.net> <5f00d9910707200806l789f408foabbb7c8485af42e8@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070720100707.03669e18@nosimport.com> <46A0D0BB.5030306@smarc.net> Message-ID: <46A168FC.5000808@smarc.net> Well, after working on it more today, I've ordered a new MC. A couple rapid pumps will develop a little pressure. Once some pressure is obtained, it is quickly lost. Puzzling over it, I realized that even the rubber seal in the reservoir cap had deteriorated and fallen apart. IMO there's no way the pump could be any good... I had to replace all the hoses, wheel cylinders and rebuild the calipers... I guess that was just wishful (read:stoopid) thinking on my part that the MC could still be good... This car sat over 5 years in some womans garage after she inherited it upon her fathers passing... Who knows how long it sat before that? The tire's date code shows them to be at least 14 years old, so who knows? (And, yes, they will be replaced when the car is actually ready to drive!). Marc From dmg at bossig.com Fri Jul 20 20:07:39 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:07:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: now starting problems.. In-Reply-To: References: , <7.0.1.0.2.20070719082604.034c0930@nosimport.com>, Message-ID: <46A107FB.31098.13D4AFD@dmg.bossig.com> Lester, >> With pulley showing at TDC * AND * rocker arms at firewall both >> loose and ready for adjustment * THEN * rotor should be pointing at >> wire for the same cylinder right?? IIRC.... the rotor should be pointing at the wire for the cylinder nearest the radiator... (I'll be quickly corrected it I'm wrong!!) - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jul 20 20:10:03 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 21:10:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: now starting problems.. References: , <7.0.1.0.2.20070719082604.034c0930@nosimport.com>, <46A107FB.31098.13D4AFD@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <040d01c7cb3c$4032dd20$0401a8c0@midget> >>> With pulley showing at TDC * AND * rocker arms at firewall both >>> loose and ready for adjustment * THEN * rotor should be pointing at >>> wire for the same cylinder right?? I believe that this would only apply to cylinders 1 and 4. Cylinders 2 and three would have the pulley 180* away from the 0 mark. David Lieb From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 20 21:56:22 2007 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 20:56:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Sigma 1200 Computer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <550023.92227.qm@web34213.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I was able to get a Sigma Computer a few weeks ago from Nashbar complete with a Wireless Kit that I threw away, Something like $19.95 or $24.95. Range on the Wireless is limited to according to the Manual to 24 ". Like David I got a hobby magnet and used JB Weld on the brake drum. I fabricated a bracket from a piece of drapery rod hardware and an L bracket and bolted it to one of the bolts on the Leaf Spring Bracket. I used phone wire and soldered to the sensor / magnetic reed switch to extend the wire through the tranny tunnel and come out the hole on top of dash, where the Left Tonneau snap is next to the Rear View Mirror. I used a L shaped bracket to attach to one of the mounting holes to the bracket for the rear view mirror. Display is in easy visual sight without having to look for it. With polarized sunglasses on difficult to read display in bright sunlight. Other than that, very accurate speed wise,. I zero'd the odometer reading and elapsed distance on the Sigma 1200 and after a full tank of gas they were within a 1/4 mile of one another. I did set up a quick disconnect under the dash using a simple telephone set line cord female to female cable extender adapter. That way I could test the sensor unit at the rear wheels to see how close or far away I could place the magnet. I checked for continuity with my VOM as I rotated the wheel. Once I know I could get a repeatable signal from the sensor I then moved to mounting the display on the dash. Move the magnet as far away as you can and still have it open and close the reed switch. Works real slick and since my analog speedo was bouncing all over the place and was the wrong gearing this solved a problem. A fun engineering project. Since then I think I've managed to break a wire going to the display and have not had time to loook at it. I'll be happy to send pics if anyone is interested of how I mounted the senson and the display. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 20:29:02 -0500 From: "David Lieb" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New Smiths 130 MPH 3.5" Speedo, $50 To: "Bill L" , "Spridgets" Message-ID: <03f301c7cb36$86912480$0401a8c0 at midget> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original > i see some of the sigma bicycle computers are even wireless!!!! > which > model(s) do you use/recommend?.. I use the BC1200, but I believe it has been discontinued. I do not recommend the wireless, since there is a significant amount of groundplane between source and reader. I tried several different mountings to read the wheel rpm. First attempt was inside the brake drum, but it did not account for the amount of lateral motion of the hub and did not read consistently in corners and curves. The second attempt went to reading the driveshaft rotation at the diff. Nice consistent readings, but the pulses per second were too high for the computed functions... speed readout was perfect, but odo readings did not increment properly when you were over 60mph or so. When a 750 mile drive registerd as 400 miles, I figured I ought to correct something. Fortunately, the trip gave me plenty of time to figure out what might be causing it... I ended up using JB Weld to attach the magnet to the rear brake drum and mounting the reed switch on a metal strap attached to the backing plate. Works good. I am told that dollhouse wiring works well for extending the distance. David Lieb Jim Gruber Bugsy '68 Sprite (future Bugeye in disguise) Cincinnati, OH --------------------------------- Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. From pilotrob at webtv.net Sat Jul 21 04:18:37 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 10:18:37 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: Fwd: now starting problems.. Message-ID: "Puddling" to one extent or another was a fault of the blower's intake man. design. It often led to initial richness on acceleration after an extended period at idle. How much fuel pressure are you running? These were made to go with the little pressure put out by the stock mechanical fuel pump on Sprites (stock SU elect. pump on MGA's). Make sure the needle valve is shutting off fuel to the float bowl..and you can adjust to a lower level in the bowl. Don't overdo this or the mixture can go lean if the loud pedal is used over time ('til the pump "catches up"). Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sat Jul 21 09:24:47 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 10:24:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Plugs? In-Reply-To: <3592F41B-C2CB-4A64-8A92-86317CC59DAD@comcast.net> References: <8E2B212E-00E4-4C56-8AC1-BEF49A66A9DF@comcast.net> <1886460327.20070714164137@pacifier.com> <011501c7c67b$05c51e70$d280bc43@HP> <339B0081-E329-48A7-8248-116A58EFBC63@comcast.net> <5f00d9910707141907j2df12977s9b069d910f244dee@mail.gmail.com> <3592F41B-C2CB-4A64-8A92-86317CC59DAD@comcast.net> Message-ID: <6A4AF1F2-53E1-464F-9E1C-2F939E7C499C@comcast.net> Ok, I have the NGK BP7ES I think but I would like to go one range hotter and I was hoping that one of you fine folk could tell me how NGK names their plugs so that I could ask for the right part.. Anyone? Thanks, Lester From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Jul 21 09:38:50 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 10:38:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Plugs? References: <8E2B212E-00E4-4C56-8AC1-BEF49A66A9DF@comcast.net><1886460327.20070714164137@pacifier.com><011501c7c67b$05c51e70$d280bc43@HP><339B0081-E329-48A7-8248-116A58EFBC63@comcast.net><5f00d9910707141907j2df12977s9b069d910f244dee@mail.gmail.com><3592F41B-C2CB-4A64-8A92-86317CC59DAD@comcast.net> <6A4AF1F2-53E1-464F-9E1C-2F939E7C499C@comcast.net> Message-ID: <042f01c7cbad$3cbd7b20$0401a8c0@midget> http://tinyurl.com/2v5uac for a page with an obvious link to explain the NGK labelling system. From pilotrob at msn.com Sat Jul 21 09:58:37 2007 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 15:58:37 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Plugs? Message-ID: The higher the number the more cold with NGK's. 948 or 1098 normally take "5"'s stock ("6" hot street tuned) while stock 1275's normally take a "6", "7" tuned. I ran "8"'s on my stock 1275 with Judson blower but these carbon fouled at lower rpm's around town. Too cold for all around use. So I finally settled on "7"'s as a good all-around for this application while enlarging the Holley's fuel jet to a .58 for higher rpm enrichment (combustion process "cooling"). Worked. CapBob From kidjoevid at yahoo.com Sat Jul 21 11:35:33 2007 From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com (Joe Lansing) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 10:35:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] New engine startup Message-ID: <75968.52130.qm@web33210.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I just started up my new 1275 after getting timing right. I fired immediately, and purred along for 60 seconds. No clangs or clanks. I let off the gas pedal to jump out and manually run the throttle and it died. Now it won't turn over. The gear reduction starter won't even budge it. Please, oh please don't tell me it's seized. This has been a one year+ build. I can't figure out a good way to turn it over by hand. (I was bumping the starter to get TDC.) Can I pull the starter and wedge a big screwdriver in there to turn the flywheel? Any other advice? Joe Lansing 1962 Sprite ____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ From Miniac7 at aol.com Sat Jul 21 11:37:15 2007 From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 13:37:15 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] New engine startup Message-ID: What kind of oil pressure did you have before she shut down? ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour From kidjoevid at yahoo.com Sat Jul 21 11:53:31 2007 From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com (Joe Lansing) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 10:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] New engine startup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <712728.10405.qm@web33213.mail.mud.yahoo.com> After working on this thing for over a year, I wasn't composed enough to even glance at the oil pressure! I just had a huge grin on my face when it started...I guess I'll pull the plugs and see if I can turn it over... Joe --- Miniac7 at aol.com wrote: > What kind of oil pressure did you have before she > shut down? > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak > peek of the all-new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jul 21 12:06:42 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 12:06:42 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] New engine startup In-Reply-To: <712728.10405.qm@web33213.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <712728.10405.qm@web33213.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707211106g4705fc09ve7b60155edab8d5d@mail.gmail.com> Make sure it isn't in gear. If you do pull the plugs and get it to turn over, let it turn over without the plugs and watch the oil pressure gauge. It should generate some pressure after a few seconds. Check the starter and the wiring, especially the (sounding like broken record here) ground strap that goes from motor to chassis. Don't forget to put water in the thing. If you are anywhere near Frank he can have it rebuilt and back in by dinner time. Cheers, Derf From kidjoevid at yahoo.com Sat Jul 21 12:16:22 2007 From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com (Joe Lansing) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 11:16:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] New engine startup In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707211106g4705fc09ve7b60155edab8d5d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <874954.38565.qm@web33208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I took it off the jackstands, put it in 4th, pulled the plugs and I can't get it to turn over. Oh man, I think I'm screwed. --- derf wrote: > Make sure it isn't in gear. > If you do pull the plugs and get it to turn over, > let it turn over > without the plugs and watch the oil pressure gauge. > It should > generate some pressure after a few seconds. > Check the starter and the wiring, especially the > (sounding like broken > record here) ground strap that goes from motor to > chassis. > Don't forget to put water in the thing. > If you are anywhere near Frank he can have it > rebuilt and back in by > dinner time. > > Cheers, > Derf > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jul 21 12:22:54 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 12:22:54 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] New engine startup In-Reply-To: <874954.38565.qm@web33208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <5f00d9910707211106g4705fc09ve7b60155edab8d5d@mail.gmail.com> <874954.38565.qm@web33208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707211122va836d22tc66bca301818288@mail.gmail.com> What did it do or sound like when you tried the starter? From kidjoevid at yahoo.com Sat Jul 21 12:30:02 2007 From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com (Joe Lansing) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 11:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] New engine startup In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707211122va836d22tc66bca301818288@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <291265.69528.qm@web33210.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Starter just clicks hard. It'sa brand new gear reduction unit. I can feel the block jolt when it kicks in. --- derf wrote: > What did it do or sound like when you tried the > starter? > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jul 21 12:37:11 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 12:37:11 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] New engine startup In-Reply-To: <291265.69528.qm@web33210.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <5f00d9910707211122va836d22tc66bca301818288@mail.gmail.com> <291265.69528.qm@web33210.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707211137l2836918btb5ed046edc09599a@mail.gmail.com> Uh oh. Did you notice anything odd when it stopped running? From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Sat Jul 21 12:40:53 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 11:40:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] New engine startup In-Reply-To: <75968.52130.qm@web33210.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8746.46521.qm@web38910.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Try a pipe in a socker wrench handle put the socket on the bottom nut - (crank) and turn like people with the smaller bore motor with there crank to start the car. You should be able to move it to TDC. If the motor does not turn you got a big problem. vigil Joe Lansing wrote: I just started up my new 1275 after getting timing right. I fired immediately, and purred along for 60 seconds. No clangs or clanks. I let off the gas pedal to jump out and manually run the throttle and it died. Now it won't turn over. The gear reduction starter won't even budge it. Please, oh please don't tell me it's seized. This has been a one year+ build. I can't figure out a good way to turn it over by hand. (I was bumping the starter to get TDC.) Can I pull the starter and wedge a big screwdriver in there to turn the flywheel? Any other advice? Joe Lansing 1962 Sprite ____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ _______________________________________________ uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! From Miniac7 at aol.com Sat Jul 21 15:03:16 2007 From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 17:03:16 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] New engine startup Message-ID: More questions than answers right now.... Is this a completely rebuilt engine? If so, did you put a new oil pump in? Did you turn it over with the spark plugs out to build oil pressure before firing it up? Howard Collins Virginia Beach, Va. ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Jul 21 16:42:12 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 15:42:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The legendary "barnfind" Message-ID: <380-220077621224212593@earthlink.net> Snopes, the website devoted to researching those bizarre tales that keep popping up in your e-mail, has a good page devoted to the now legendary "too-good-to-be-true" barn find of classic cars. The Snopes report can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/2wxpn8 . The page of photos of the cars themselves is at: http://tinyurl.com/3agfmo . So, what is in the "barn": * Note: More than one car may exist for each model listed above. Dozens of 1950s and 1960s Mercedes sedans Dozens of American sedans from a 1932 Ford 2-door sedan to 1970s Olds Cutlasses A couple of Formula race cars 1923/24 Maxwell 1931 Chrysler CD roadster 1939 Plymouth 1950s Alfa Giulietta 1950s Lancia B20 1950s Nash Metropolitan 1960s Hillman Imp Californian 1960s Mercedes-Benz 200 1960s Sprint Speciale 1970s Abarth Scorpione Abarth 1300 Scorpione Alfa 1900 SS Alfa Bertone Alfa Giuiletta Alfa Giulia Sprint Speciale Alfa Giulietta Sprint Alfa GTV Alfa Sud 1.5 Austin A30 Austin A40 Somerset Austin Healey Sprite Austin Mini Cooper Austin Mini Cooper S BMW 1800 BMW 2002 BMW 501 V8 Sedan BMW Isetta Bristol 404 Saloon Chrysler CD Citrokn Traction Avant Datsun 240Z DKW 1000SP Fiat 500 Fiat 508 Balilla Fiat Cabriolet Fiat Topolino Ford Cortina Ford Taunus Hillman Californian Lancia Appia Lancia Aurelia B20 2+2 Lancia Aurelia B24 Lancia Flaminia Coupe Lancia Flaminia Zagato Lotus Elan +2 Lotus Elan DHC Lotus Elan FHC Lotus Europa Lotus Super 7 Series IV Matra Djet Maxwell MG Magnette MG Midget Mini Moke Nash Metropolitan Opel GT Opel Rekord Peugeot 202 Peugeot 404 Cabriolet Peugeot 505 Cabriolet Porsche 356B Porsche 356C Renault Dauphine Rover P5 Saloon Rover P6 Saab 93 Simca Coupe de Ville Singer Gazelle Steyr Puch Triumph TR4 Volvo PV444 VW Beetle Thats all folks.. From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jul 21 16:57:44 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 16:57:44 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] The legendary "barnfind" In-Reply-To: <380-220077621224212593@earthlink.net> References: <380-220077621224212593@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707211557j6b3d6d5bt9b3de3bf7a6cf726@mail.gmail.com> OK, you can have one. Pick one. Which one? From dmg at bossig.com Sat Jul 21 17:01:50 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 16:01:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The legendary "barnfind" In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707211557j6b3d6d5bt9b3de3bf7a6cf726@mail.gmail.com> References: <380-220077621224212593@earthlink.net>, <5f00d9910707211557j6b3d6d5bt9b3de3bf7a6cf726@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46A22DEE.13027.1EBB4E4@dmg.bossig.com> The Maxwell..... - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Sat Jul 21 17:07:55 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:07:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The legendary "barnfind" In-Reply-To: <46A22DEE.13027.1EBB4E4@dmg.bossig.com> References: <380-220077621224212593@earthlink.net> <5f00d9910707211557j6b3d6d5bt9b3de3bf7a6cf726@mail.gmail.com> <46A22DEE.13027.1EBB4E4@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: ...and the tooth fairy. Don't mess with my fantasy. I still have that Porsche ad clipped out from 20 or so years ago about a speedster as a garage find. it could happen... Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G." Date: Saturday, July 21, 2007 6:02 pm Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The legendary "barnfind" To: Spridgets at autox.team.net > The Maxwell..... > > - > Dave G > '65 MKIII Sprite > _______________________________________________ > cmanuel at wi.rr.com From kidjoevid at yahoo.com Sat Jul 21 18:25:10 2007 From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com (Joe Lansing) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 17:25:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] New engine startup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <119499.57004.qm@web33203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> whew - Came back after a couple hours and it turned right over. Stuck starter I guess. A strong 50-60 psi oil pressure. I always assume the worst! Joe --- Miniac7 at aol.com wrote: > More questions than answers right now.... > > Is this a completely rebuilt engine? > > If so, did you put a new oil pump in? > > Did you turn it over with the spark plugs out to > build oil pressure before > firing it up? > > Howard Collins > Virginia Beach, Va. > > > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak > peek of the all-new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > _______________________________________________ > kidjoevid at yahoo.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sat Jul 21 18:29:06 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 19:29:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Plugs? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It runs. I think that all of the plugs were so badly fouled that it wasn't getting spark where it was supposed to be. But it runs like crap. Dead miss with a rattling sound. Hopefully it's just a little exhaust rattling noise. Next time I'll adjust the valves with the engine warm like the book says.. Lester .. hotter plugs but NGK, only had Denso around here.. On Jul 21, 2007, at 3:58 PM, Robert E. Shlafer wrote: > The higher the number the more cold with > NGK's. 948 or 1098 normally take "5"'s stock ("6" hot street tuned) > while stock 1275's normally take a "6", "7" tuned. > > I ran "8"'s on my stock 1275 with Judson blower but these carbon > fouled at lower rpm's around town. Too cold for all around use. > > So I finally settled on "7"'s as a good all-around for this > application while enlarging > the Holley's fuel jet to a .58 for higher rpm > enrichment (combustion process "cooling"). > > Worked. > > CapBob > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > __._,_.___ > Messages in this topic (0)Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | > Calendar > If you must unsubscribe from the Bugeye Interest Group, please send > an email to: bugeye-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > If you no longer want to receive emails, but wish to remain a > member of the group, you may go to the website and change your > subscription to "Web Only" and you will not receive any emails. > > Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch > format to Traditional > Visit Your Group | Yahoo! 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Finance > It's Now Personal > > Guides, news, > > advice & more. > > . > > __,_._,___ From jlaird237 at cox.net Sat Jul 21 18:50:03 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 19:50:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New engine startup References: <119499.57004.qm@web33203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001601c7cbfa$3d519dd0$6401a8c0@personal> Excellent, I wondered about a stuck starter but have no experence with geared starters. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Lansing" To: ; "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New engine startup > whew - Came back after a couple hours and it turned > right over. Stuck starter I guess. A strong 50-60 psi > oil pressure. I always assume the worst! > > Joe > --- Miniac7 at aol.com wrote: > >> More questions than answers right now.... >> >> Is this a completely rebuilt engine? >> >> If so, did you put a new oil pump in? >> >> Did you turn it over with the spark plugs out to >> build oil pressure before >> firing it up? >> >> Howard Collins >> Virginia Beach, Va. >> >> >> >> >> >> ************************************** Get a sneak >> peek of the all-new AOL at >> http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour >> _______________________________________________ >> kidjoevid at yahoo.com >> >> Edit your replies >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Got a little couch potato? > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.10/908 - Release Date: 7/19/2007 > 6:10 PM From millerls at ado13.com Sat Jul 21 19:00:24 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:00:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] New engine startup References: <119499.57004.qm@web33203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <026501c7cbfb$b0415550$d280bc43@HP> That way you are seldom dissapointed :-) > oil pressure. I always assume the worst! > > Joe From kevin at valentinephoto.net Sat Jul 21 19:02:38 2007 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 21:02:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] New engine startup In-Reply-To: <001601c7cbfa$3d519dd0$6401a8c0@personal> References: <119499.57004.qm@web33203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001601c7cbfa$3d519dd0$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: <23281422-4A55-4D7E-A769-61AEE419FEF0@valentinephoto.net> On Jul 21, 2007, at 8:50 PM, Jack Laird wrote: > Excellent, I wondered about a stuck starter but have no experence with > geared starters. Guys, The gear reduction starter works from the opposite side of the flywheel (as opposed to the stock starter). The angles on the teeth of the flywheel face toward the stock starter so, it is easy for the gear reduction starter to jamb from time to time. Easiest fix is to put the car in 3rd gear and rock the car by pushing on the rear fender. This usually works to un-jamb the starter. Kevin V. From pilotrob at msn.com Sat Jul 21 19:05:39 2007 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 01:05:39 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Plugs? Message-ID: "Adjust the valves with the engine warm like the book says"? What book is this? CapBob From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Jul 21 19:08:39 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 20:08:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Plugs? References: Message-ID: <045f01c7cbfc$d7452ae0$0401a8c0@midget> > "Adjust the valves with the engine warm like the book says"? > > What book is this? My books say cold... From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sat Jul 21 19:22:28 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 20:22:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Plugs? In-Reply-To: <045f01c7cbfc$d7452ae0$0401a8c0@midget> References: <045f01c7cbfc$d7452ae0$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: hmm.. in that case I'm screwed... Lester On Jul 21, 2007, at 8:08 PM, David Lieb wrote: >> "Adjust the valves with the engine warm like the book says"? >> >> What book is this? > > My books say cold... From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sat Jul 21 21:42:57 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 22:42:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Plugs? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2A4FFB6D-0CD5-47C9-B6C3-408E0E6D2FBA@comcast.net> On Jul 21, 2007, at 8:53 PM, Robert Webb wrote: > That's kinda what it sounds like. > > So, I wanta ask a couple of questions nobody wants to answer.... > > 1. The last time it ran good was? Right before I stopped it here at the house, the day before I started the emails.. > > 2. What have you done to it since then? Tried to get the dam thing to start.. that's it. Of course since it wouldn't I: Put in new plugs Put in Bosch blue coil Verified timing Verified dizzy alignment Verified dwell Adjusted valves Verified fuel flow Verified fuel shutoff (Not leaking after float rises) Verified float position (Remember, it's a Holley for the Judson) Verified vanes working in Judson > > 3. How long has it been since you changed/gaped/cleaned the plugs? First thing I did in an effort to get it started. My opinion is that the plugs fouled from the previous spirited drive and kept it from starting. New plugs seem to have allowed it to start right up.. with a new noise.. > > 4. When you pull into a gas station, you say fill'er up and check > the oil, or fill up the oil and check the gas.... Well, that's what I > said with my first Car/Bugeye.... I got 50 miles to the quart and 44 > MPG. Fresh oil change and filter before everything went bad.. maybe 60 miles before.. > > 5. and lastly, the compression is.... Dry/Wet???? Compression before the spirited driving was between 160 and 170 on all 4 dry. > > Bob, Troutdale, OR > > --- In bugeye at yahoogroups.com, oldsaabguy wrote: > > > > hmm.. in that case I'm screwed... > > > > Lester > > > > > > On Jul 21, 2007, at 8:08 PM, David Lieb wrote: > > > > >> "Adjust the valves with the engine warm like the book says"? > > >> > > >> What book is this? > > > > > > My books say cold... From pilotrob at msn.com Sat Jul 21 22:36:46 2007 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 04:36:46 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Plugs? Message-ID: Lester..... you normally fill up at that gas station? You said you found the plugs "fouled". With what, exactly. Were they wet? What color were the deposits on the plug (tan, brown, oily black, carbon black????) What sort of "noise" is the motor making? CapBob From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sat Jul 21 23:15:00 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 00:15:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Plugs? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45449A1F-4B73-4B96-837E-293C18AB2477@comcast.net> On Jul 22, 2007, at 4:36 AM, Robert E. Shlafer wrote: > Lester..... > > you normally fill up at that gas station? uhh.. yeah.. and I like the color blue.. ????? > > You said you found the plugs "fouled". After dealing with 2 stoke plugs one learns that when the plugs foul they short circuit and the arc happens inside the nose rather than at the tip. Same thing here. > With > what, exactly. Were they wet? What color were the deposits on the > plug (tan, brown, > oily black, carbon black????) they were slightly oily and black. Makes me think blowby or leaking guides maybe.. > > What sort of "noise" is the motor making? Here's tha bad part.. it sounds like .. hmm.. let me say that the sound is similar to a sound that the exhaust pipe might make if hitting something * ONLY* this seems to be coming from the pan. Maybe it's just a bad miss from one plug being bad and it is the exhaust hitting.. Lester .. but I'm not holding my breath.. > > CapBob > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From pilotrob at msn.com Sat Jul 21 23:20:17 2007 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 05:20:17 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Plugs? Message-ID: Well.... guess you'll have to get it up on a lift and see where that sound is coming from, Lester. Only way, I guess. Black and oily doesn't sound too good. These were the "7"'s, Lester? CapBob From BCAH at aol.com Sun Jul 22 01:15:49 2007 From: BCAH at aol.com (BCAH at aol.com) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 03:15:49 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] rear oil seal Message-ID: Hello all, The latest issue of Practical Classics is in and there is an article about leaky engines. In it the article shows a rear oil seal kit being bolted on. I always though you had to machine the crank before this could be done. What' up? Any thoughts on the scroll vs the add on rubber one? Thanks,---Bob C in KS ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sun Jul 22 08:31:07 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 09:31:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Plugs? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: yup.. Lester On Jul 22, 2007, at 5:20 AM, Robert E. Shlafer wrote: > Well.... > > guess you'll have to get it up on a lift and see where that sound > is coming from, Lester. Only way, I guess. > > Black and oily doesn't sound too good. These were the "7"'s, Lester? > > CapBob > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > __._,_.___ > Messages in this topic (0)Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | > Calendar > If you must unsubscribe from the Bugeye Interest Group, please send > an email to: bugeye-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > If you no longer want to receive emails, but wish to remain a > member of the group, you may go to the website and change your > subscription to "Web Only" and you will not receive any emails. > > Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch > format to Traditional > Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe > Recent Activity > 16 > New Members > 5 > New Photos > Visit Your Group > SPONSORED LINKS > Austin healey > Austin healey part > Austin healey 3000 > Austin healey sprite > Austin healey for sale > Health Zone > Look your best! > > Groups to help you > > look & feel great. > > Yahoo! News > Get it all here > > Breaking news to > > entertainment news > > Yahoo! Finance > It's Now Personal > > Guides, news, > > advice & more. > > . > > __,_._,___ From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sun Jul 22 09:39:24 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 10:39:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Plugs? In-Reply-To: <002201c7cc71$26043850$6401a8c0@personal> References: <45449A1F-4B73-4B96-837E-293C18AB2477@comcast.net> <002201c7cc71$26043850$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: <76471E37-280F-4D41-A013-FA273433CA80@comcast.net> I certainly hope so! I'll let ya know after I pull some plug wires to isolate the miss.. Lester On Jul 22, 2007, at 10:01 AM, Jack Laird wrote: > Is it the exhaust pipe hitting the body as it exits the engine room? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: oldsaabguy > To: bugeye at yahoogroups.com ; Robert E. Shlafer > Cc: Spridgets List > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 12:15 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Plugs? > > On Jul 22, 2007, at 4:36 AM, Robert E. Shlafer wrote: > > > Lester..... > > > > you normally fill up at that gas station? > > uhh.. yeah.. and I like the color blue.. ????? > > > > You said you found the plugs "fouled". > > After dealing with 2 stoke plugs one learns that when the plugs foul > they short circuit and the arc happens inside the nose rather than at > the tip. Same thing here. > > > With > > what, exactly. Were they wet? What color were the deposits on the > > plug (tan, brown, > > oily black, carbon black????) > > they were slightly oily and black. Makes me think blowby or leaking > guides maybe.. > > > > What sort of "noise" is the motor making? > > Here's tha bad part.. it sounds like .. hmm.. let me say that the > sound is similar to a sound that the exhaust pipe might make if > hitting something * ONLY* this seems to be coming from the pan. > Maybe it's just a bad miss from one plug being bad and it is the > exhaust hitting.. > > Lester > > .. but I'm not holding my breath.. > > > > CapBob > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.11/909 - Release Date: > 7/20/2007 4:39 PM > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > __._,_.___ > Messages in this topic (0)Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | > Calendar > If you must unsubscribe from the Bugeye Interest Group, please send > an email to: bugeye-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > If you no longer want to receive emails, but wish to remain a > member of the group, you may go to the website and change your > subscription to "Web Only" and you will not receive any emails. > > Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch > format to Traditional > Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe > Recent Activity > 16 > New Members > 5 > New Photos > Visit Your Group > SPONSORED LINKS > Austin healey > Austin healey part > Austin healey 3000 > Austin healey sprite > Austin healey for sale > Health Zone > Look your best! > > Groups to help you > > look & feel great. > > Yahoo! News > Odd News > > You won't believe > > it, but it's true > > Yahoo! Finance > It's Now Personal > > Guides, news, > > advice & more. > > . > > __,_._,___ From lists at woozy.com Sun Jul 22 10:48:16 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 12:48:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Coils & Ballast Resistor? In-Reply-To: <76471E37-280F-4D41-A013-FA273433CA80@comcast.net> References: <45449A1F-4B73-4B96-837E-293C18AB2477@comcast.net> <002201c7cc71$26043850$6401a8c0@personal> <76471E37-280F-4D41-A013-FA273433CA80@comcast.net> Message-ID: <46A38A50.5090609@woozy.com> I'm running a Crane XR700 in my Midget with a Lucas Gold coil and no ballast resistor. I also have a new Accel Chrome Super Stock coil sitting out in the shed. Is one coil noticeably better than the other? Does the Accel need a ballast resistor if used with the Crane XR700? I just spent the last 2 1/2 hours driving the Midget on twisty country two lanes and it ran great, so I have no compelling reason to swap coils. I'm mostly curious to know if there would be any difference between the two. Thanks, Robert From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jul 22 11:04:01 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 12:04:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] rear oil seal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0707221004x6bfea6c1h72e3f04db33261eb@mail.gmail.com> Bob, If you get any answers to this one, let me know! Right now my leak (which appears to be coming from that area) has me at around 30 miles per quart of oil! Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City (KS) On 7/22/07, BCAH at aol.com wrote: > Hello all, The latest issue of Practical Classics is in and there is an > article about leaky engines. In it the article shows a rear oil seal kit being > bolted on. I always though you had to machine the crank before this could be > done. What' up? Any thoughts on the scroll vs the add on rubber one? > Thanks,---Bob C in KS From kidjoevid at yahoo.com Sun Jul 22 11:30:42 2007 From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com (Joe Lansing) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 10:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] New Engine Startup: Chapter 2...it ain't pretty Message-ID: <308457.62526.qm@web33202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> So yesterday I had my new 1275 running for about 60 seconds before it died. It was then locked up, but turned over after a 2 hour wait. Today I tried again, but no spark. I pull the distributer cap and find a shattered rotor. I turn over the engin and find the distributor shaft does not turn in sync with the engine, but jumps. I pull the distributor, and the spindle, and examine the innards with a mirror and light. It appears that the hole that the dizzy spindle sits in has broken, leaving a full third or more missing, where the shaft can jump out. I tried reinserting, and it goes in, but apparently jumps out after a couple revolutions as it stops turning evenly with the engine. A couple questions: Is the hole that accepts the shaft end of the distributor spindle machined directly into the block? I can't remember, as I am not a rebuilder - I saw the inside of this engine for a few days last winter, and that's it. If it's snapped, can it be welded and re-machined by Gomer's Machine Shop? I'd be worried about alignment... Why did it bind up in the first place? Something had to torque the living heck out of it to break the edge of this hole...right? The LBC gods frown again. Let's see...if I get 60 seconds of run time after a year of work, I'll get another half hour if I live to be really old! Joe Lansing #$%^& 1962 Sprite ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ From kidjoevid at yahoo.com Sun Jul 22 11:53:08 2007 From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com (Joe Lansing) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 10:53:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Engine startup photo-builders help? Message-ID: <198807.64695.qm@web33209.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Here's a blurry pic that kinda shows what I'm talking about in my previous post re the distributor spindle hole. I've indicated in red where it appears material is missing. It's a really bad photo, but you'll see what I mean. When you look at the engin in person you can tell there is a jagged break where I've indicated. http://www.flickr.com/photos/40542646 at N00/871303532/ Thanks, Joe ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 22 12:17:17 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 12:17:17 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine startup photo-builders help? In-Reply-To: <198807.64695.qm@web33209.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <198807.64695.qm@web33209.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707221117y74298d09q9826e708bef4d365@mail.gmail.com> Did you pull the dizzy drive shaft, the part with the gear that engages the cam? It looks like the shaft is still in there from the pic. If so, get a long 5/16 bolt, thread it in there, and pull the drive shaft out and replace it. Take a pic of what you pulled out. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 22 12:24:47 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 12:24:47 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Plugs? In-Reply-To: <76471E37-280F-4D41-A013-FA273433CA80@comcast.net> References: <45449A1F-4B73-4B96-837E-293C18AB2477@comcast.net> <002201c7cc71$26043850$6401a8c0@personal> <76471E37-280F-4D41-A013-FA273433CA80@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707221124r286b3ff6g4bbb6b8c6e8e7e3d@mail.gmail.com> My 02. It is better to get everything working well, valves, timing, etc, and then add the supercharger. That way you have fewer variables to consider. Drop a downdraft Weber or a pair of SUs or a single SU on there and get the thing running right. Then, add the blower and get it started and running before you adjust the timing and start adjusting the carb. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 22 12:25:44 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 12:25:44 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Coils & Ballast Resistor? In-Reply-To: <46A38A50.5090609@woozy.com> References: <45449A1F-4B73-4B96-837E-293C18AB2477@comcast.net> <002201c7cc71$26043850$6401a8c0@personal> <76471E37-280F-4D41-A013-FA273433CA80@comcast.net> <46A38A50.5090609@woozy.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707221125j4bc9e761i2acaeaa1f82e6321@mail.gmail.com> You almost certainly would notice no difference. If it ain't broke....... Cheers, Derf From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Jul 22 13:11:44 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 14:11:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine startup photo-builders help? In-Reply-To: <198807.64695.qm@web33209.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <198807.64695.qm@web33209.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000801c7cc94$26c158e0$74440aa0$@com> Joe, I've sent pics to you... But if it's the boss in the block that's broken, it's junk (the block). WST -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Lansing Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 12:53 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Engine startup photo-builders help? Here's a blurry pic that kinda shows what I'm talking about in my previous post re the distributor spindle hole. I've indicated in red where it appears material is missing. It's a really bad photo, but you'll see what I mean. When you look at the engin in person you can tell there is a jagged break where I've indicated. http://www.flickr.com/photos/40542646 at N00/871303532/ Thanks, Joe ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 _______________________________________________ wsthompson at thicko.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sun Jul 22 13:22:03 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 14:22:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Plugs? In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707221124r286b3ff6g4bbb6b8c6e8e7e3d@mail.gmail.com> References: <45449A1F-4B73-4B96-837E-293C18AB2477@comcast.net> <002201c7cc71$26043850$6401a8c0@personal> <76471E37-280F-4D41-A013-FA273433CA80@comcast.net> <5f00d9910707221124r286b3ff6g4bbb6b8c6e8e7e3d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: The supercharger is nothing new. It's been running that way for most of this year, and it was running fine until I stopped it and then it wouldn't start an thence the beginning of this series of emails.. and my frustration.. Lester On Jul 22, 2007, at 1:24 PM, derf wrote: > My 02. It is better to get everything working well, valves, timing, > etc, and then add the supercharger. That way you have fewer variables > to consider. Drop a downdraft Weber or a pair of SUs or a single SU > on there and get the thing running right. Then, add the blower and > get it started and running before you adjust the timing and start > adjusting the carb. > Cheers, > Derf From kidjoevid at yahoo.com Sun Jul 22 15:10:13 2007 From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com (Joe Lansing) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 14:10:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Engine startup photo-builders help? In-Reply-To: <000801c7cc94$26c158e0$74440aa0$@com> Message-ID: <869971.22810.qm@web33203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yeah, it's the boss in the block. I've pulled the distributor, pulled the drive spindle, and my inspection (and my fuzzy photo) show that the hole in the boss is missing a piece. It flippin' broke, I guess, during my initial startup. There is just a tiny bit of wear on the gear on the spindle. It must have been kicked out/off it's matching gear when things went south. I still don't understand what jammed to cause this...or did the broken spindle hole start the event? Or did I Gomer the assembly? New block, huh? Dang dang dang. Just finally finished getting this one together. Joe Lansing 1962 friggin' Sprite PS. You may not want to answer this post just in case my incredibly bad luck rubs off in some way. 2 weeks ago it was a falling tree on my GT6, now it's a ruined block. Approach my bad karma with caution ;/ --- "Wm. Severin Thompson" wrote: > Joe, > > I've sent pics to you... > > But if it's the boss in the block that's broken, > it's junk (the block). > > WST > > -----Original Message----- > From: > spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of > Joe Lansing > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 12:53 PM > To: Spridgets > Subject: [Spridgets] Engine startup photo-builders > help? > > Here's a blurry pic that kinda shows what I'm > talking > about in my previous post re the distributor spindle > hole. I've indicated in red where it appears > material > is missing. It's a really bad photo, but you'll see > what I mean. When you look at the engin in person > you > can tell there is a jagged break where I've > indicated. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/40542646 at N00/871303532/ > > Thanks, Joe > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > ________ > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship > answers from someone who > knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 > _______________________________________________ > wsthompson at thicko.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Jul 22 15:13:23 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:13:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine startup photo-builders help? In-Reply-To: <869971.22810.qm@web33203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <000801c7cc94$26c158e0$74440aa0$@com> <869971.22810.qm@web33203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000301c7cca5$2542bf70$6fc83e50$@com> See if the cam is in one piece.... might not be any longer. You sound like a man that needs an OSHIT/SOS/BUSTERCLUSTER intervention. WST -----Original Message----- From: Joe Lansing [mailto:kidjoevid at yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 4:10 PM To: Wm. Severin Thompson; Spridgets Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Engine startup photo-builders help? Yeah, it's the boss in the block. I've pulled the distributor, pulled the drive spindle, and my inspection (and my fuzzy photo) show that the hole in the boss is missing a piece. It flippin' broke, I guess, during my initial startup. There is just a tiny bit of wear on the gear on the spindle. It must have been kicked out/off it's matching gear when things went south. I still don't understand what jammed to cause this...or did the broken spindle hole start the event? Or did I Gomer the assembly? New block, huh? Dang dang dang. Just finally finished getting this one together. Joe Lansing 1962 friggin' Sprite PS. You may not want to answer this post just in case my incredibly bad luck rubs off in some way. 2 weeks ago it was a falling tree on my GT6, now it's a ruined block. Approach my bad karma with caution ;/ --- "Wm. Severin Thompson" wrote: > Joe, > > I've sent pics to you... > > But if it's the boss in the block that's broken, > it's junk (the block). > > WST > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&c s=bz From MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com Sun Jul 22 19:19:04 2007 From: MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com (MICHAEL CARPENTER) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:19:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] New engine startup References: <119499.57004.qm@web33203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001701c7ccc7$760c6330$b2ecf804@D1PWFG61> I don't understand why you couldn't put it in gear and spin the motor manually by shoving the car. Did you try? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Lansing" To: ; "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New engine startup > whew - Came back after a couple hours and it turned > right over. Stuck starter I guess. A strong 50-60 psi > oil pressure. I always assume the worst! > > Joe > --- Miniac7 at aol.com wrote: > >> More questions than answers right now.... >> >> Is this a completely rebuilt engine? >> >> If so, did you put a new oil pump in? >> >> Did you turn it over with the spark plugs out to >> build oil pressure before >> firing it up? >> >> Howard Collins >> Virginia Beach, Va. >> >> >> >> >> >> ************************************** Get a From MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com Sun Jul 22 19:20:47 2007 From: MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com (MICHAEL CARPENTER) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:20:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Plugs? References: <045f01c7cbfc$d7452ae0$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <002501c7ccc7$b2fc35e0$b2ecf804@D1PWFG61> I have quite a few books that give both hot and cold settings. I always found it easiest to adjust them when cold. MC ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 9:08 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Plugs? >> "Adjust the valves with the engine warm like the book says"? >> >> What book is this? > > My books say cold... From MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com Sun Jul 22 19:24:48 2007 From: MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com (MICHAEL CARPENTER) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:24:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Coils & Ballast Resistor? References: <45449A1F-4B73-4B96-837E-293C18AB2477@comcast.net><002201c7cc71$26043850$6401a8c0@personal><76471E37-280F-4D41-A013-FA273433CA80@comcast.net> <46A38A50.5090609@woozy.com> Message-ID: <003b01c7ccc8$42a42e50$b2ecf804@D1PWFG61> If it ain't broke don't fix it. I doubt that you would notice any difference. About the coils measure the resistance with an Ohm meter. MC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Weeks" To: "Spridgets List" Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 12:48 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Coils & Ballast Resistor? > I'm running a Crane XR700 in my Midget with a Lucas Gold coil and no > ballast resistor. I also have a new Accel Chrome Super Stock coil > sitting out in the shed. Is one coil noticeably better than the other? > Does the Accel need a ballast resistor if used with the Crane XR700? > > I just spent the last 2 1/2 hours driving the Midget on twisty country > two lanes and it ran great, so I have no compelling reason to swap > coils. I'm mostly curious to know if there would be any difference > between the two. > > Thanks, > > Robert > _______________________________________________ From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jul 22 19:29:25 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:29:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] rear oil seal In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0707221004x6bfea6c1h72e3f04db33261eb@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0707221004x6bfea6c1h72e3f04db33261eb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46A40475.7010805@comcast.net> Jim Johnson wrote: > Bob, > If you get any answers to this one, let me know! Right now my leak > (which appears to be coming from that area) has me at around 30 miles > per quart of oil! Jim Do you have a PCV system in place? If not you will blow the oil out of the rear of the engine. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From pythias at pacifier.com Sun Jul 22 19:58:50 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 18:58:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Plugs? In-Reply-To: <002501c7ccc7$b2fc35e0$b2ecf804@D1PWFG61> References: <045f01c7cbfc$d7452ae0$0401a8c0@midget> <002501c7ccc7$b2fc35e0$b2ecf804@D1PWFG61> Message-ID: <19410618631.20070722185850@pacifier.com> Hello MICHAEL, hey, can you check this for me... i know the COLD setting is .012, BUT the cam i got recommends a HOT setting of .018. what do the books say that should be if set when COLD? -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite * "This boat is leaking," said Tom balefully. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 22 20:08:24 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:08:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Coils & Ballast Resistor? In-Reply-To: <003b01c7ccc8$42a42e50$b2ecf804@D1PWFG61> References: <45449A1F-4B73-4B96-837E-293C18AB2477@comcast.net> <002201c7cc71$26043850$6401a8c0@personal> <76471E37-280F-4D41-A013-FA273433CA80@comcast.net> <46A38A50.5090609@woozy.com> <003b01c7ccc8$42a42e50$b2ecf804@D1PWFG61> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707221908n14089124n527d966794c35eb5@mail.gmail.com> I was just answering his question: >Is one coil noticeably better than the other? From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 22 20:14:22 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 19:14:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Plugs? In-Reply-To: <19410618631.20070722185850@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <313584.91026.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Bill L wrote: > hey, can you check this for me... i know the > COLD setting is > .012, BUT > the cam i got recommends a HOT setting of > .018. Mine recommends .018 and .020 hot, I got .020 and .022 cold and they're usually spot-on when hot. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 From mconn2 at bright.net Sun Jul 22 20:21:02 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 22:21:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] AN5 Message-ID: <00e901c7ccd0$1e681530$d4aeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> List, Well, past Saturday I removed the sports type steering wheel and replaced it with the original wheel. It looks great. There is just one small problem. The horn button keeps popping out, and falling on the floor. Has anyone experienced this problem, and, if so, what did they do to correct it? The sports steering wheel is a Grant GT. I've also put the new hood badge on, but think I need more badge clips. Do I have to go to, say, Moss for these? From dmg at bossig.com Sun Jul 22 20:40:04 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 19:40:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Rendezvous 2007 Message-ID: <46A3B294.32553.2951A9D@dmg.bossig.com> For those that are interested... Present at the 'Rendezvous 2007' was a "Sprite" Runabout/Speedboat. The "Sprite" and "Corvette(!)" speedboats were made by Healey Marine Ltd in 1961 !! A copy of the original Ad appears in the July issue of the Oregon A-H clubs' "Healey Northwest" magazine. The Ad for the boat says "by the designers of the famous Austin-Healey Sports Cars" and has the specs on the reverse - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Sun Jul 22 20:48:14 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 19:48:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Plugs? References: <045f01c7cbfc$d7452ae0$0401a8c0@midget><002501c7ccc7$b2fc35e0$b2ecf804@D1PWFG61> <19410618631.20070722185850@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <005001c7ccd3$eb7aae40$f675fea9@p0k7l8> I just finished up a 1098 with the same cam as yours, Bill and I did .016 cold initially. Just did a break in run to Salem and back with a 5 speed in a Morris. I'm impressed with it! Gave no quarter to anyone! Ran with the big boys!! Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill L" To: "MICHAEL CARPENTER" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Plugs? > Hello MICHAEL, > > hey, can you check this for me... i know the COLD setting is > .012, BUT > > the cam i got recommends a HOT setting of .018. > > what do the books say that should be if set when COLD? > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > "66 Sprite > * "This boat is leaking," said Tom balefully. From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 22 20:56:41 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 19:56:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Plugs? In-Reply-To: <005001c7ccd3$eb7aae40$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <48407.54298.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Which cam? --- Paul Asgeirsson wrote: > I just finished up a 1098 with the same cam as > yours, Bill and I did .016 > cold initially. Just did a break in run to Salem > and back with a 5 speed in > a Morris. I'm impressed with it! ____________________________________________________________________________________ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jul 22 21:11:29 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 22:11:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] rear oil seal In-Reply-To: <46A40475.7010805@comcast.net> References: <43840a7e0707221004x6bfea6c1h72e3f04db33261eb@mail.gmail.com> <46A40475.7010805@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0707222011i2d5fc52fy813f79a61302383f@mail.gmail.com> Thanks, Frank. Yes I have the PCV valve in place. I wonder if it could be blocked? I will try replacing it if I can figure out which model the valve is. Cheers!! Jim On 7/22/07, Frank Clarici wrote: > Jim Johnson wrote: > > Bob, > > If you get any answers to this one, let me know! Right now my leak > > (which appears to be coming from that area) has me at around 30 miles > > per quart of oil! > > Jim > Do you have a PCV system in place? > If not you will blow the oil out of the rear of the engine. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 22 21:20:18 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:20:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 1098 stuff FS from SCCA boards Message-ID: <782711.88015.qm@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> NFI, I don't know the seller: http://prodracing.com/prodcar/viewtopic.php?t=8080 Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 22 21:20:22 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:20:22 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] rear oil seal In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0707222011i2d5fc52fy813f79a61302383f@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0707221004x6bfea6c1h72e3f04db33261eb@mail.gmail.com> <46A40475.7010805@comcast.net> <43840a7e0707222011i2d5fc52fy813f79a61302383f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707222020j25f96f44y1bd889f7322e8e1d@mail.gmail.com> If you pull your dipstick and feel a slight vacuum with your finger over the hole, then you have good PCV going on. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Jul 22 21:20:46 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:20:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Plugs? In-Reply-To: <002501c7ccc7$b2fc35e0$b2ecf804@D1PWFG61> Message-ID: > always > found it easiest to adjust them when cold. But it only matters when they're hot. From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Sun Jul 22 22:01:32 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:01:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Plugs? References: <48407.54298.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000201c7ccde$6969dce0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Hi Ron, It's from a local cam company called Oregon Cams and is an RV-1 by there name. Seems to me it's a tad less than a Kent 266 Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Paul Asgeirsson" ; "Bill L" ; "MICHAEL CARPENTER" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Plugs? > Which cam? > > --- Paul Asgeirsson > wrote: > > > I just finished up a 1098 with the same cam as > > yours, Bill and I did .016 > > cold initially. Just did a break in run to Salem > > and back with a 5 speed in > > a Morris. I'm impressed with it! > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ > Luggage? GPS? Comic books? > Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz From dwoerpel at wi.net Mon Jul 23 00:07:20 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 01:07:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] AN5 In-Reply-To: <00e901c7ccd0$1e681530$d4aeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> References: <00e901c7ccd0$1e681530$d4aeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <46A44598.3030707@wi.net> Michael, There should be 2 clips that slide on to the assembly and have little prongs to dig into the steering wheel. The bonnet badge gets 3 clips. Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS Burlington WI Michael Conn wrote: > List, > > Well, past Saturday I removed the sports type steering wheel and replaced it > with the original wheel. It looks great. > > There is just one small problem. The horn button keeps popping out, and > falling on the floor. Has anyone experienced this problem, and, if so, what > did they do to correct it? > > The sports steering wheel is a Grant GT. > > I've also put the new hood badge on, but think I need more badge clips. Do I > have to go to, say, Moss for these? From wrongwayricky at mac.com Mon Jul 23 05:50:35 2007 From: wrongwayricky at mac.com (Rick & Carolyn) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 04:50:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] AN5 In-Reply-To: <00e901c7ccd0$1e681530$d4aeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> References: <00e901c7ccd0$1e681530$d4aeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <902D0DD5-0113-1000-F1F1-B595BC1544B0-Webmail-10024@mac.com> Hi, Mine did that too. It ended up that the spring brush was a tad bit long. I had to shorten it as the books show a longer one installed. Take the brush apart by un-soldiering the wire. then mark it to the correct size. I used my belt sander up-side down to grind it down. Because it is plastic it can break real easy so go slow. Then resolder and try it again. Take it in small steps, because you don't want it too short either. I took mine down an 1/8" There is also a small indent that sometimes will wear out. It should be inside the horn hub. The small spring clip fits into this. Mine was very worn and I had to re cut a new one on my mill at work after hours.. This helped too. Cheers Wrongway Ricky 60 Frog eye "Puddles" 52 MGTD "Sparky" From kidjoevid at yahoo.com Mon Jul 23 06:45:34 2007 From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com (Joe Lansing) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 05:45:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Startup - Now Need 1275 block Message-ID: <92597.76345.qm@web33211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'm seeking a 1275 block in good condition. I want to throw good money after bad, at this point. I'm going to get this sucker on the road even if it costs me a zillion bucks (oh wait...it already has!). Any tips, hints or clues regarding finding a block would be appreciated! I'll do extraordinary things to get one. Joe Lansing 1962 friggin' Sprite ____________________________________________________________________________________ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC From pythias at pacifier.com Mon Jul 23 06:52:54 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 05:52:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Plugs? In-Reply-To: <48407.54298.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <005001c7ccd3$eb7aae40$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <48407.54298.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <16810104712.20070723055254@pacifier.com> Hello Ron, the cam is an "RV1" from Oregon Cam Grinding. it doesn't match up with ANYTHING else, from anyone else. .. the specs are gross lift int .321 exh .318 adv. dur. int 256 deg. exh 256 deg .050 dur. int 216 deg exh 214 deg lobe sep 111 deg int c/l 109 deg. lash hot int .018 exh .018 its a mild street grind, but the most interesting thing to me, (being more of a researcher than mechanic) is the lobe centerline seperation.. according to "the book" you can go up to 107 deg but this one goes over even THAT!. what it gives in a 1098 is pulling power in all gears down below 1500 rpms even!! i can pull 5th without lugging from about there. what it gives up is high end power. (seat of the pants measure). i tend to "putter" when driving, that is i'm in 4th or 5th even by the time i reach 35 mph, and seldom drive or 70 mph, so it suits me just fine.. -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite * "It's a unit of electric current," said Tom amply. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jul 23 06:58:08 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 8:58:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Message-ID: <20070723125808.OFHV18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Looks like the spread has closed up a bit: Death trap: 46.8% Apo Rust Rockets: 37.4% http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jul 23 07:08:29 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 07:08:29 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Plugs? In-Reply-To: <16810104712.20070723055254@pacifier.com> References: <005001c7ccd3$eb7aae40$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <48407.54298.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <16810104712.20070723055254@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707230608u6a2f53f2p5b00af01cdd0a316@mail.gmail.com> RV sounds like recreational vehicle grind which would give the characteristics you describe. Great for towing, eh? I imagine that cam with a 4.22 rear end would leap from the light. From grday at btinternet.com Mon Jul 23 07:49:35 2007 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:49:35 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Startup - Now Need 1275 block References: <92597.76345.qm@web33211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002a01c7cd30$4ea66340$c38e9751@tairswork> A zillion bucks? There is an unbored and currently unused 1275 block together with bits in the back left corner of my garage (under the box of fluorescent bulbs and white plastic water pipes). It was waiting for the time when I have need of another engine. I'll bring it across the pond as handluggage for that price. Best of luck :-) GRD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Lansing" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 1:45 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Startup - Now Need 1275 block > I'm seeking a 1275 block in good condition. I want to > throw good money after bad, at this point. I'm going > to get this sucker on the road even if it costs me a > zillion bucks (oh wait...it already has!). Any tips, > hints or clues regarding finding a block would be > appreciated! I'll do extraordinary things to get one. > > Joe Lansing > 1962 friggin' Sprite > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, > news, photos & more. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC > _______________________________________________ > grday at btinternet.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From cweber at advanced-input.com Mon Jul 23 07:50:01 2007 From: cweber at advanced-input.com (Weber, Chris) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 06:50:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] gas tank plug Message-ID: <7C9C8BBE838DE040B781A55CD6D3FBC20287A5BF@ms-cda-02.advanced-input.com> Doh... I wasn't paying attention and stripped the threads on my fuel tank plug this weekend. Anyone know what the threads were that used to be on my plug? Wonder if I can find a replacement at Napa? Thanks! Chris '60 Bugeye From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jul 23 07:53:51 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:53:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Startup - Now Need 1275 block References: <92597.76345.qm@web33211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <002a01c7cd30$4ea66340$c38e9751@tairswork> Message-ID: <001501c7cd30$e72822c0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >A zillion bucks? There is an unbored and currently unused 1275 block > together with bits in the back left corner of my garage (under the box of > fluorescent bulbs and white plastic water pipes). Dunno about blocks in England, but this side of the pond, that block would consider itself to be very bored... I'll get my coat now ;-) From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jul 23 07:56:19 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:56:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] gas tank plug References: <7C9C8BBE838DE040B781A55CD6D3FBC20287A5BF@ms-cda-02.advanced-input.com> Message-ID: <001901c7cd31$3f288460$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Anyone know what the threads were that used to be on my plug? Wonder > if I can find a replacement at Napa? I seem to recall that they represent an amalgam of "standards"... British diameter, French thread count, etc. Good luck! Maybe someone here has an old rusted out tank with a good plug? David Lieb From lists at woozy.com Mon Jul 23 08:14:11 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:14:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Startup - Now Need 1275 block In-Reply-To: <92597.76345.qm@web33211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <92597.76345.qm@web33211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46A4B7B3.7000608@woozy.com> Hey Joe, Where are you located? Robert Joe Lansing wrote: > I'm seeking a 1275 block in good condition. I want to > throw good money after bad, at this point. I'm going > to get this sucker on the road even if it costs me a > zillion bucks (oh wait...it already has!). Any tips, > hints or clues regarding finding a block would be > appreciated! I'll do extraordinary things to get one. > > Joe Lansing > 1962 friggin' Sprite From lists at woozy.com Mon Jul 23 08:34:55 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:34:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint for suspension parts? In-Reply-To: <46A4B7B3.7000608@woozy.com> References: <92597.76345.qm@web33211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <46A4B7B3.7000608@woozy.com> Message-ID: <46A4BC8F.7060602@woozy.com> I plan on putting new suspension bushings in my '70 Midget soon and figured while I was in there I'd clean things up and paint anything that needed to be painted. What is the best paint to use for these parts? Has anyone used the Eastwood chassis black paint? Thanks, Robert From nases at verizon.net Mon Jul 23 08:40:57 2007 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:40:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint for suspension parts? In-Reply-To: <46A4BC8F.7060602@woozy.com> References: <92597.76345.qm@web33211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <46A4B7B3.7000608@woozy.com> <46A4BC8F.7060602@woozy.com> Message-ID: <000401c7cd37$7b7f3ca0$8ab1b9d8@na.sjcount.com> Send em to Frank for powder coating. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa Paint for suspension parts? I plan on putting new suspension bushings in my '70 Midget soon and figured while I was in there I'd clean things up and paint anything that needed to be painted. What is the best paint to use for these parts? Has anyone used the Eastwood chassis black paint? Thanks, Robert From wmgilroy at gmail.com Mon Jul 23 09:06:06 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:06:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap In-Reply-To: <20070723125808.OFHV18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20070723125808.OFHV18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <441250190707230806s30a5ce9bq435b9b46bf9d829a@mail.gmail.com> Vote early and vote often. Please? On 7/23/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > > Looks like the spread has closed up a bit: > Death trap: 46.8% > Apo Rust Rockets: 37.4% > > http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx > _______________________________________________ > wmgilroy at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From cweber at advanced-input.com Mon Jul 23 14:32:57 2007 From: cweber at advanced-input.com (Weber, Chris) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 13:32:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye fuel gauge sending unit Message-ID: <7C9C8BBE838DE040B781A55CD6D3FBC20287A5CA@ms-cda-02.advanced-input.com> I know I either have a bad fuel gauge or sending unit or both. Measuring the resistance across the sending units gives me 2 ohms at empty and 66 ohms at full. This seems bad but I have gotten conflicting information on what is correct here. I have read the range should be 10-100 ohms and also have read 15-250 ohms. I'd like to know the correct range expected is someone could fill me in. Has anyone had any luck rebuilding/repairing one? Doesn't seem like anything there to break as far as resistance values changing. I would think that it would either work or not at all. How about the fuel gauge. Any way to verify if it is working properly. I understand the basic troubleshooting mentioned in the manuals but what I wonder about is between empty and full. Mine would only vary between = and = which I suspect is a result of the sending unit but would like to be sure. I guess one could place high power resistors in line with the sending unit wire to see if the needle is at expected points. Of course I would need to know the correct resistance range. Thanks! Chris '60 Bugeye From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Jul 23 16:12:14 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:12:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] engine pull/replace Message-ID: <000601c7cd76$869a4280$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> I shortcut the engine pull on the turbo bugeye by leaving the trans and driveshaft in the car, which I seldom do. On trying to replace the engine this last weekend, as expected, they just wouldn't mate up. (Yes, I use a proper clutch disc centering tool) I realized that it would be faster to just yank out the trans, mate it to the motor out of the car as usual and shove it all back in together. I had it done 30 minutes after I got the trans out. Moral of the story: Its way easier to remove and replace the engine and trans together than trying the PITA tranny-stays-in shortcut. I use a pair of linked zip-ties to attach the driveshaft to the shifter so they stay together for the in-and-out. That way you don't have to drain the trans. I also r/r the clutch slave when the motor/trans are 3/4s of the way back in. Ditto the speedo cable. My theory is that the critical point where the pilotshaft has to enter the guide bushing in the crank is the same point where the pan is just slipping past the frame crossmember and won't allow the perfect angle to be acheived, even with a well dented heater box allowing the trans to be jacked up tight. If the special valve stem seals arrive from APT in the mail today, my Lake of the Ozarks motor will be running by dinner time. Glen From mconn2 at bright.net Mon Jul 23 16:47:30 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:47:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] AN5 References: <00e901c7ccd0$1e681530$d4aeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> <46A44598.3030707@wi.net> Message-ID: <002801c7cd7b$74814990$fdaeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> David, I didn't find any clips with the assembly for the steering wheel. Should I ask Moss for them? (It's a pain having to grope around on the floor looking for the thing. I discovered crossing the gap between the steering wheel bolt and the brush with a steel washer sounds the horn, but felt this was not in keeping with the spirit of an AN5.) I had 3 clips for the hood badge, but couldn't find the one I dropped on the floor. The badge feels a bit loose, and having lost the last one because it was loose, want to avoid that happening again. Do you think an automotive store would carry them? I see you used the word "bonnet" in your e-mail, and take it this means you are in England. Do Bugeye's cost more or less than here in the US? I used to dash around the Kentish country side in my first AN5. Very enjoyable. Do you have a picture of your MGA you could send me, please. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Woerpel" To: "spridgets" Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 2:07 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] AN5 > Michael, > > There should be 2 clips that slide on to the assembly and have little > prongs to dig into the steering wheel. > The bonnet badge gets 3 clips. > Dave > 59 :{) > 59 MGA 1500 > 05 MCS > Burlington WI > > > Michael Conn wrote: >> List, >> >> Well, past Saturday I removed the sports type steering wheel and replaced >> it >> with the original wheel. It looks great. >> >> There is just one small problem. The horn button keeps popping out, and >> falling on the floor. Has anyone experienced this problem, and, if so, >> what >> did they do to correct it? >> >> The sports steering wheel is a Grant GT. >> >> I've also put the new hood badge on, but think I need more badge clips. >> Do I >> have to go to, say, Moss for these? > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mconn2 at bright.net Mon Jul 23 17:00:14 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 19:00:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] AN5 References: <00e901c7ccd0$1e681530$d4aeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> <902D0DD5-0113-1000-F1F1-B595BC1544B0-Webmail-10024@mac.com> Message-ID: <003601c7cd7d$3c2544f0$fdaeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> Rick, Thank you. Sounds like a plan. Did you try epoxy before the grind down? I have it in mind to try your way this coming week-end, and will let you know how I get on. Michael From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jul 23 21:38:40 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:38:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] FREE Spitfire stuff - no Spridget content! Message-ID: <155205.45351.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> My buddy Scott Cypher is going to send some stuff to the crusher, and maybe someone can use it or know someone who can? It's stock Spitfire stuff - see below my signature line. The numbers are quantities, not prices. He would just like to see someone use it rather than crush it - he's in cleanup mode. He's near Allentown, PA. He really doesn't want to box and ship stuff. If you know anyone who might want anything, please forward this to them. Knowing Scott, his descriptions are conservative. Thanks, Ron Contact Scott: spitfireracer at xsmail.com The stuff: Steel gear box cases -3 Steel bell housings -8 Stock starters -2 Stock alternators -1 Frozen/rusted diff-1 Rusty diff carrier-2 Box of rusty rods 4 big pin ~20 Intake manifolds 1" throats ~8 Couple distrib housings early style 4 stock steel rims ____________________________________________________________________________________ Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jul 23 22:07:08 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 23:07:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] engine pull/replace In-Reply-To: <000601c7cd76$869a4280$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <000601c7cd76$869a4280$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <43840a7e0707232107m4ed96716ge0f2066a52311019@mail.gmail.com> Glen, I don't quite understand how you used the zip ties. I gather you disconnected the drive shaft at the diff but where did you hook the zip ties to keep the driveshaft yoke from slipping out of the tranny tail piece? I've gotta have mine out again this year to fix my Exxon Valdez oil leak... Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City On 7/23/07, Glen Byrns wrote: > I shortcut the engine pull on the turbo bugeye by leaving the trans and > driveshaft in the car, which I seldom do. On trying to replace the engine > this last weekend, as expected, they just wouldn't mate up. (Yes, I use a > proper clutch disc centering tool) I realized that it would be faster to just > yank out the trans, mate it to the motor out of the car as usual and shove it > all back in together. I had it done 30 minutes after I got the trans out. > Moral of the story: Its way easier to remove and replace the engine and trans > together than trying the PITA tranny-stays-in shortcut. > > I use a pair of linked zip-ties to attach the driveshaft to the shifter so > they stay together for the in-and-out. That way you don't have to drain the > trans. I also r/r the clutch slave when the motor/trans are 3/4s of the way > back in. Ditto the speedo cable. > > My theory is that the critical point where the pilotshaft has to enter the > guide bushing in the crank is the same point where the pan is just slipping > past the frame crossmember and won't allow the perfect angle to be acheived, > even with a well dented heater box allowing the trans to be jacked up tight. > > If the special valve stem seals arrive from APT in the mail today, my Lake of > the Ozarks motor will be running by dinner time. > > Glen > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jul 23 22:26:46 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 21:26:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] engine pull/replace In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0707232107m4ed96716ge0f2066a52311019@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <637352.48129.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > > If the special valve stem seals arrive from APT in > the mail today, my Lake of Tell us of these special seals. In a beer fueled frenzy, I recently bought a lifetime supply of the umbrella ones. I also bought a race Spridget tub today that I don't really need. After the fact, it was pointed out to me that just prior to saying "sure, why not?", in preparation for a very important and likely boring meeting I had just finished 2 Monster Energy drinks and listened to Ramones and X on my iPod during lunch and that perhaps it isn't a good combo for restrained thought processes... Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jul 23 22:31:12 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 23:31:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap In-Reply-To: <644181.43378.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <644181.43378.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0707232131j7d1dffame7c8788166f4e22e@mail.gmail.com> Forward from Other Groups. Our intrepid Spridgeteer's bid for the wild card slot is now starting to call behind. Let's all get in there and vote daily folks! One of the Sprigeteers in another group is wanting to compete in the Red Bull soap box race. The name of his team is Death Trap. This is done on popular vote and you can vote once a day until the vote is closed. I am sure he would thank you all for voting for him. He did have 15% over all the others last Friday. Today it is with in 1%. Please go to the link -------Click on Death Trap----On the left is a place to put in the code displayed ----- That places your vote --Then it will then show you what the % is for all the teams...........Vigil http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx From grday at btinternet.com Tue Jul 24 01:54:06 2007 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 08:54:06 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap References: <644181.43378.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0707232131j7d1dffame7c8788166f4e22e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00a901c7cdc7$cfb7be60$ffbc8f56@tairswork> Hey, we're loosing, by a long way, get those fingers out - NOW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 5:31 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap > Forward from Other Groups. > > Our intrepid Spridgeteer's bid for the wild card slot is now starting to > call behind. Let's all get in there and vote daily folks! > > > One of the Sprigeteers in another group is wanting to compete in the Red > Bull soap box race. The name of his team is Death Trap. This is done on > popular vote and you can vote once a day until the vote is closed. I am > sure > he would thank you all for voting for him. He did have 15% over all the > others last Friday. Today it is with in 1%. > > Please go to the link -------Click on Death Trap----On the left is a place > to put in the code displayed ----- That places your vote --Then it will > then > show you what the % is for all the teams...........Vigil > > http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx > _______________________________________________ > grday at btinternet.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Tue Jul 24 03:11:14 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 04:11:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] engine pull/replace References: <637352.48129.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <034401c7cdd2$95e77a30$6501a8c0@actualshop> Let's see: <> VS Ron Soave. Isn't that the ULTIMATE oxymoron?? Enquirin................ Ooops, almost made my own!!! LOL From lists at woozy.com Tue Jul 24 05:24:07 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 07:24:07 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] pop up camper for sale In-Reply-To: <002401c7c86a$00136c70$003a4550$@com> References: <002401c7c86a$00136c70$003a4550$@com> Message-ID: <46A5E157.20903@woozy.com> We have one of these Palomino campers, they are a lot of fun. Robert Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > http://appleton.craigslist.org/rvs/375694760.html > > > > > > Wm. Severin Thompson > > ~iii > > > wsthompson at thicko.com > > www.thicko.com > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] > _______________________________________________ > lists at woozy.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jul 24 06:14:48 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 07:14:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] engine pull/replace References: <637352.48129.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <034401c7cdd2$95e77a30$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <04e901c7cdec$3b1d2450$0401a8c0@midget> > <> > VS Ron Soave. > Isn't that the ULTIMATE oxymoron?? Nope. Everyone here knows what the ULTIMATE oxymoron would be. Never has been any evidence of that... From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Jul 24 06:23:10 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 07:23:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap In-Reply-To: <00a901c7cdc7$cfb7be60$ffbc8f56@tairswork> References: <644181.43378.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0707232131j7d1dffame7c8788166f4e22e@mail.gmail.com> <00a901c7cdc7$cfb7be60$ffbc8f56@tairswork> Message-ID: I just sent out a post to all my music lists, lets see what happens now. Brad On 7/24/07, Guy R Day wrote: > Hey, we're loosing, by a long way, get those fingers out - NOW > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Johnson" > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 5:31 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap > > > > Forward from Other Groups. > > > > Our intrepid Spridgeteer's bid for the wild card slot is now starting to > > call behind. Let's all get in there and vote daily folks! > > > > > > One of the Sprigeteers in another group is wanting to compete in the Red > > Bull soap box race. The name of his team is Death Trap. This is done on > > popular vote and you can vote once a day until the vote is closed. I am > > sure > > he would thank you all for voting for him. He did have 15% over all the > > others last Friday. Today it is with in 1%. > > > > Please go to the link -------Click on Death Trap----On the left is a place > > to put in the code displayed ----- That places your vote --Then it will > > then > > show you what the % is for all the teams...........Vigil > > > > http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx > > _______________________________________________ > > grday at btinternet.com > > > > Edit your replies > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 24 06:33:32 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 07:33:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap References: <644181.43378.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0707232131j7d1dffame7c8788166f4e22e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0bbd01c7cdee$da64ad10$6401a8c0@Larry> Maybe it's time to call in some other LBC lists. I'll spread it to the MG and MGB Yahoo lists. Anybody on a Triumph or other Brit list? Spread the good word. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 11:31 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Forward from Other Groups. Our intrepid Spridgeteer's bid for the wild card slot is now starting to call behind. Let's all get in there and vote daily folks! One of the Sprigeteers in another group is wanting to compete in the Red Bull soap box race. The name of his team is Death Trap. This is done on popular vote and you can vote once a day until the vote is closed. I am sure he would thank you all for voting for him. He did have 15% over all the others last Friday. Today it is with in 1%. Please go to the link -------Click on Death Trap----On the left is a place to put in the code displayed ----- That places your vote --Then it will then show you what the % is for all the teams...........Vigil http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx _______________________________________________ ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jul 24 06:50:16 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 8:50:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Message-ID: <20070724125017.EQXY18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> I wonder if the competitor is one a related list. Perhaps we could convince him to vote for Bill, too?!! :) I wish we knew the actual count and not just the percent. > From: "Larry Daniels" > > Maybe it's time to call in some other LBC lists. I'll spread it to the MG > and MGB Yahoo lists. Anybody on a Triumph or other Brit list? Spread the > good word. > > LAD > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > Please go to the link -------Click on Death Trap----On the left is a place > to put in the code displayed ----- That places your vote --Then it will then > show you what the % is for all the teams...........Vigil > > http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jul 24 06:53:01 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 8:53:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Message-ID: <20070724125301.ETWN574.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> I wish I could spell ( or proofread ) properly! < or avoid reading my own emails > :( > From: Robert Duquette > > I wonder if the competitor is one a related list. Perhaps we could convince him to vote for Bill, too?!! :) > > I wish we knew the actual count and not just the percent. > > > > From: "Larry Daniels" > > > > Maybe it's time to call in some other LBC lists. I'll spread it to the MG > > and MGB Yahoo lists. Anybody on a Triumph or other Brit list? Spread the > > good word. > > > > LAD > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Please go to the link -------Click on Death Trap----On the left is a place > > to put in the code displayed ----- That places your vote --Then it will then > > show you what the % is for all the teams...........Vigil > > > > http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx From cciaffone at verizon.net Tue Jul 24 07:04:45 2007 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:04:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] WOT: Sky?? In-Reply-To: <20070724125017.EQXY18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20070724125017.EQXY18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <46A5F8ED.2020102@verizon.net> Leaving the gym yesterday, saw a Saturn Sky. Never seen one before. Kinda nice. Does NOT (!!) look like a Miata, which is unusual for a roadster today and for that reason alone attracted me. Definitely not a barbi car. Any reports? Is it any good or just another Amurican trashmo?? chuck From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jul 24 09:55:50 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:55:50 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] WOT: Sky?? In-Reply-To: <46A5F8ED.2020102@verizon.net> References: <20070724125017.EQXY18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <46A5F8ED.2020102@verizon.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707240855l7d40ea4bo25f5503bfd40be55@mail.gmail.com> Looks like a Solstice with some tacked on bling to me. I know dozens of Miata owners and none are secretaries. All the secretaries I know drive Hondas or Toyotas. All the Barbies I know drive SUVs. Must be different demographics where you are. How many secretaries you know drive Miatas? From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jul 24 10:02:56 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:02:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] WOT: Sky?? References: <20070724125017.EQXY18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca><46A5F8ED.2020102@verizon.net> <5f00d9910707240855l7d40ea4bo25f5503bfd40be55@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <005f01c7ce0c$19d61b60$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Looks like a Solstice with some tacked on bling to me. For all intents and purposes, that is exactly what it is. Less difference than between Firebird and Camaro in the old F-Body days. The Solstice did well in SCCA action against the Miata last year, mostly because of "stock" tire width advantages. From lists at woozy.com Tue Jul 24 10:04:17 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:04:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] WOT: Sky?? In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707240855l7d40ea4bo25f5503bfd40be55@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070724125017.EQXY18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <46A5F8ED.2020102@verizon.net> <5f00d9910707240855l7d40ea4bo25f5503bfd40be55@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46A62301.2080807@woozy.com> derf wrote: > Must be different demographics where you are. > How many secretaries you know drive Miatas? Gay or straight secretaries? ;-) Robert From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jul 24 10:04:32 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:04:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] WOT: Sky?? Message-ID: <20070724160432.WCSI13659.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Hmmm! Must be way different demographics here, too! I don't know anyone that owns a Miata. My next door neighbour is a Barb. She drives a Subaru. She's in her 70's and used to drive a Triumph. Should I have said that? Robert D. > From: derf > > Looks like a Solstice with some tacked on bling to me. > I know dozens of Miata owners and none are secretaries. > All the secretaries I know drive Hondas or Toyotas. > All the Barbies I know drive SUVs. > > Must be different demographics where you are. > How many secretaries you know drive Miatas? From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Tue Jul 24 10:11:42 2007 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:11:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] WOT: Sky?? In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707240855l7d40ea4bo25f5503bfd40be55@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070724125017.EQXY18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <46A5F8ED.2020102@verizon.net> <5f00d9910707240855l7d40ea4bo25f5503bfd40be55@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0707240911v108b5a6bl96e683c16edac4c7@mail.gmail.com> The Pontiac Solstice and the Saturn Sky are the same platform so, other than body panels, they are pretty much the same thing. The Saturn Sky body style is also being exported to Europe as the new Opel GT. I've considered buying a Solstice, and would love to have an Opel GT in the drive again (owned a 1970 model some 25 years ago), but I'll not buy a Saturn after seeing the constant troubles my brother had with his and the Saturn dealers near here. From JNBrashear at garverengineers.com Tue Jul 24 10:27:41 2007 From: JNBrashear at garverengineers.com (Brashear, Jack, N) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:27:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tranny Question - Not LBC though Message-ID: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE6033EC88F@glitas07.garverinc.local> I All, I know nothing about the transmission and/or driveline in my wife's '98 Crown Victoria except that it has recently begun to have a very brief but shuddery vibration about the time it shifts into automatic OD while the car speed is increasing. Switching the OD off doesn't change anything. Oh yes, about 107K miles on this otherwise flawless car. There doesn't seem to be any other problem except that this momentary shudder makes us wonder what might be coming up. The stock answer from any Ford or independent trans place has been "...you need to have your transmission rebuilt..." I don't necessarily buy into this but if there is any feedback from more knowledgeable listers, I'd like really to hear it. Geeez, Healeys and Spridgets are Soooo much easier to deal with.... Many thanks, Jack From cciaffone at verizon.net Tue Jul 24 10:38:22 2007 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:38:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Sky -- Barbie Cars?? In-Reply-To: <20070724160432.WCSI13659.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20070724160432.WCSI13659.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <46A62AFE.30700@verizon.net> Now I do live in the sunny (read HOT) south, but ... the most notable thing about Miata drivers is that they never, and I do mean NEVER, put the damn top down. There I am out in the Midge with top down winter spring summer fall, and each and every Miata Barbimobile that approaches has the top up. Why is that?? Why bother?? Buy and escalade and be happy. chuck From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jul 24 10:44:27 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:44:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Sky -- Barbie Cars?? References: <20070724160432.WCSI13659.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <46A62AFE.30700@verizon.net> Message-ID: <007401c7ce11$e74b8300$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Now I do live in the sunny (read HOT) south, but ... the most > notable thing about Miata drivers is that they never, and I do > mean NEVER, put the damn top down. There I am out in the Midge > with top down winter spring summer fall, and each and every Miata > Barbimobile that approaches has the top up. Why is that?? Why > bother?? Buy and escalade and be happy. I live in the Chicago area. I see many Miatae with the top down (mostly members of the Windy City Miata Club) as well as many convertibles of all flavors with the top up on a gloriously perfect day. I do not understand it at all. My daughter drives a ratty old 1989 LeBaron convertible and is noted for driving it top-down in the snow. I guess I have had an evil influence (she does wear shoes, however). From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jul 24 10:46:37 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:46:37 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Sky -- Barbie Cars?? In-Reply-To: <46A62AFE.30700@verizon.net> References: <20070724160432.WCSI13659.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <46A62AFE.30700@verizon.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707240946w1c541a70l912c8e454a1e0e4b@mail.gmail.com> Because they have working AC. And because their cars are reliable enough to be daily drivers. But, when the temp drops below 80 and the sky is blue they can ride with the top down and not sweat like a pig. Unless it is raining hard, my top is down. Trust me on the sunscreen. Cheers, Derf On 7/24/07, chuck wrote: > Now I do live in the sunny (read HOT) south, but ... the most > notable thing about Miata drivers is that they never, and I do > mean NEVER, put the damn top down. There I am out in the Midge > with top down winter spring summer fall, and each and every Miata > Barbimobile that approaches has the top up. Why is that?? Why > bother?? Buy and escalade and be happy. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jul 24 10:47:29 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:47:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tranny Question - Not LBC though References: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE6033EC88F@glitas07.garverinc.local> Message-ID: <007501c7ce12$53161dc0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Geeez, Healeys and Spridgets are Soooo much > easier to deal with.... I dunno bout dat. Long bout da time ya start getting noises shifting into overdrive on that heavey healey ... From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jul 24 10:54:04 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:54:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Sky -- Barbie Cars?? Message-ID: <20070724165404.ZVAG19497.tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> :) To each their own, I guess. They do have AC and the gas must be cheaper than driving an escalade!! Some people drive cars with hard tops, too, you know? :) > From: chuck > > Now I do live in the sunny (read HOT) south, but ... the most > notable thing about Miata drivers is that they never, and I do > mean NEVER, put the damn top down. There I am out in the Midge > with top down winter spring summer fall, and each and every Miata > Barbimobile that approaches has the top up. Why is that?? Why > bother?? Buy and escalade and be happy. > > chuck From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jul 24 10:57:48 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:57:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Sky -- Barbie Cars?? References: <20070724165404.ZVAG19497.tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <007c01c7ce13$c43c11c0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Some people drive cars with hard tops, too, you know? :) There is an Olde Englishe White Bugeye and a milti-year Midget in my local club that actually get seen a good bit. I have never seen either one without the hardtop in place... From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jul 24 10:58:55 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:58:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Sky -- Barbie Cars?? Message-ID: <20070724165855.HOGX18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Ah! So you're the guy that I've heard about whose manner of dressing leaves 2 feet exposed. Ed > From: "David Lieb" > I guess I have had an evil influence (she > does wear shoes, however). From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jul 24 11:02:20 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:02:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Sky -- Barbie Cars?? Message-ID: <20070724170220.WNLX13659.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Aye! But, derf, we don't care if 'your' top is down! It's the Barbie secretaries in the Miatas that we're complainging about not not having their tops down. Ed > From: derf > > Because they have working AC. And because their cars are reliable > enough to be daily drivers. > But, when the temp drops below 80 and the sky is blue they can ride > with the top down and not sweat like a pig. > Unless it is raining hard, my top is down. Trust me on the sunscreen. > Cheers, > Derf > > > On 7/24/07, chuck wrote: > > Now I do live in the sunny (read HOT) south, but ... the most > > notable thing about Miata drivers is that they never, and I do > > mean NEVER, put the damn top down. There I am out in the Midge > > with top down winter spring summer fall, and each and every Miata > > Barbimobile that approaches has the top up. Why is that?? Why > > bother?? Buy and escalade and be happy. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jul 24 11:06:17 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:06:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Sky -- Barbie Cars?? References: <20070724165855.HOGX18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <008001c7ce14$f37de390$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Ah! So you're the guy that I've heard about whose manner of dressing > leaves 2 feet exposed. Hey, if you had 2 feet, you would probably flaunt it, too. ED From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jul 24 11:11:55 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:11:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Sky -- Barbie Cars?? In-Reply-To: <20070724170220.WNLX13659.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20070724170220.WNLX13659.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707241011lcc01fch1ea11622228a881f@mail.gmail.com> I see, you want to leer at the barbies? On 7/24/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > Aye! But, derf, we don't care if 'your' top is down! It's the Barbie secretaries in the Miatas that we're complainging about not not having their tops down. > > Ed From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jul 24 11:13:51 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:13:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Sky -- Barbie Cars?? In-Reply-To: <008001c7ce14$f37de390$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <20070724165855.HOGX18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <008001c7ce14$f37de390$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707241013p48abc6a0ha64395c3bcef1b0d@mail.gmail.com> I go barefoot alot, too. But, not when I was driving the Midget. Or, I would carry shoes in the car in case I had to walk or push. From htpc2 at comcast.net Tue Jul 24 11:16:53 2007 From: htpc2 at comcast.net (Rick) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:16:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Footwear or lack thereof References: <20070724165855.HOGX18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <010501c7ce16$6fbe8df0$6400a8c0@htpc> He's not the only one, The most I ever have on my feet are Tiva's (fancy flip flops), and they're frequnetly naked(my feet)! The only store I've been denied service in for bare feet was a radio shack..... I don't try restaurants or grocery stores without flops. Rick '65 Midget > Ah! So you're the guy that I've heard about whose manner of dressing > leaves 2 feet exposed. > > Ed > >> From: "David Lieb" >> I guess I have had an evil influence (she >> does wear shoes, however). From egnorant at dctexas.net Tue Jul 24 11:24:58 2007 From: egnorant at dctexas.net (Bruce Lowry) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:24:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tranny Question - Not LBC though References: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE6033EC88F@glitas07.garverinc.local> Message-ID: <005001c7ce17$91bb0130$85990e0c@lowrybruce> Change the transmission fluid. This is commonly overlooked and will result in the symptoms described. The lockup converter uses a special friction modifier that just wears out and needs replacing. I have had this problem myself on 2 cars and seen it fix 3 others. My 95 Mustang has nearly 250,000 miles and has many more left. When was the last time you changed your automatic transmission fluid?? Bruce >I All, I know nothing about the transmission and/or driveline in my > wife's '98 Crown Victoria except that it has recently begun to have a > very brief but shuddery vibration about the time it shifts into > automatic OD while the car speed is increasing. Switching the OD off > doesn't change anything. Oh yes, about 107K miles on this otherwise > flawless car. There doesn't seem to be any other problem except that > this momentary shudder makes us wonder what might be coming up. The > stock answer from any Ford or independent trans place has been "...you > need to have your transmission rebuilt..." I don't necessarily buy into > this but if there is any feedback from more knowledgeable listers, I'd > like really to hear it. Geeez, Healeys and Spridgets are Soooo much > easier to deal with.... Many thanks, > > Jack From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jul 24 11:30:26 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:30:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Sky -- Barbie Cars?? Message-ID: <20070724173026.FJFY1592.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Yeah! That, and I want to be able to proofread my written work before I click 'send'. :( > From: derf > > I see, you want to leer at the barbies? > > On 7/24/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > > Aye! But, derf, we don't care if 'your' top is down! It's the Barbie secretaries in the Miatas that we're complainging about not not having their tops down. > > > > Ed From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jul 24 11:35:59 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:35:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Sky -- Barbie Cars?? Message-ID: <20070724173559.CVO19497.tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> I walk around exposed also; though bound in leather and some rubber like substance. ( Not in the winter though. ) Ed > From: "David Lieb" > > > Ah! So you're the guy that I've heard about whose manner of dressing > > leaves 2 feet exposed. > > Hey, if you had 2 feet, you would probably flaunt it, too. > ED From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Tue Jul 24 12:23:07 2007 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:23:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Sky -- Barbie Cars?? In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707240946w1c541a70l912c8e454a1e0e4b@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070724160432.WCSI13659.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <46A62AFE.30700@verizon.net> <5f00d9910707240946w1c541a70l912c8e454a1e0e4b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0707241123h7cdc35bayf922c72dda7e6ec2@mail.gmail.com> derf wrote: > Because they have working AC. And because their cars are reliable > enough to be daily drivers. Have they not heard that the AC works with the top down too? The first convertible my wife and I bought we got in February. After checking the owners manual and seeing it state the top should not be folded when the temperature was below 40 F, we dropped the top and went cruising whenever the temp above 41! In the summer the AC was almost always on but the top was still down even when driving in light rain. I've been pondering lately how hard it'd be to fit AC to my Midget. Seems that by moving the battery to the trunk there should be room for some rework of the heater box area to accomodate AC. Anybody else here tried it? From racerbob70 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 24 12:40:24 2007 From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:40:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Sky -- Barbie Cars?? In-Reply-To: <20070724165404.ZVAG19497.tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <490878.45655.qm@web51611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> --- Robert Duquette wrote: > > They do have AC and the gas must be cheaper than > driving an escalade!! > But Miatas need premium gas and my friends Escalade gets about 22mph highway on regular... ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Jul 24 12:47:50 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:47:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap In-Reply-To: <20070723125808.OFHV18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20070723125808.OFHV18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: I just voted, and it is a dead tie!!! I found that if you are running two different browsers, you can vote from each browser. I have Mozilla and IE for mine. Brad On 7/23/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > Looks like the spread has closed up a bit: > Death trap: 46.8% > Apo Rust Rockets: 37.4% > > http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jul 24 12:48:17 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:48:17 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Sky -- Barbie Cars?? In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0707241123h7cdc35bayf922c72dda7e6ec2@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070724160432.WCSI13659.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <46A62AFE.30700@verizon.net> <5f00d9910707240946w1c541a70l912c8e454a1e0e4b@mail.gmail.com> <8de85a9c0707241123h7cdc35bayf922c72dda7e6ec2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707241148k1af7eb0fmdf7479737ecb40e2@mail.gmail.com> I think there is a Morris or Austin with AC that can be adapted. When the heat is above 95 or so ambient, it is much cooler to leave the top up and run the AC, especially in slow and heavy traffic. > Have they not heard that the AC works with the top down too? From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Jul 24 13:10:52 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:10:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Sky -- Barbie Cars?? In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707241148k1af7eb0fmdf7479737ecb40e2@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070724160432.WCSI13659.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <46A62AFE.30700@verizon.net> <5f00d9910707240946w1c541a70l912c8e454a1e0e4b@mail.gmail.com> <8de85a9c0707241123h7cdc35bayf922c72dda7e6ec2@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910707241148k1af7eb0fmdf7479737ecb40e2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I like to run the PF with the A/C on high, and the sunroop open. I can just hear my dad now. "WTF ARE YOU DOING!?" "I DON'T WANT TO AIR CONDITION OUTSIDE!!!!!" On 7/24/07, derf wrote: > I think there is a Morris or Austin with AC that can be adapted. > > When the heat is above 95 or so ambient, it is much cooler to leave > the top up and run the AC, especially in slow and heavy traffic. > > > Have they not heard that the AC works with the top down too? > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jul 24 13:16:47 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:16:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Sky -- Barbie Cars?? Message-ID: <20070724191647.NFCQ9197.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> But, you're mixing apples with oranges, aren't you? Even using premium, their cost per mile 'can' be much lower. But, I don't know for sure if it is. My Subaru with a 6, using premium, costs less per kilometer than what my 6 cylinder Ford used to get on regular. ( The Ford is dead now. Doesn't use any gas any more. ) > From: Bob Van Kirk > > --- Robert Duquette > wrote: > > > > > > They do have AC and the gas must be cheaper than > > driving an escalade!! > > > > > But Miatas need premium gas and my friends Escalade > gets about 22mph highway on regular... From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jul 24 13:20:45 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:20:45 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Sky -- Barbie Cars?? In-Reply-To: <490878.45655.qm@web51611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <20070724165404.ZVAG19497.tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <490878.45655.qm@web51611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707241220j2691ec51qe761b12c4e58079f@mail.gmail.com> Really, what model year Escalade? Most get 13/18 MPG at best. Miatas get something like 22/28. You can get two Miatas for the cost of one Escalade. You can't fit a basketball team in a Miata, though. > > > > They do have AC and the gas must be cheaper than > > driving an escalade!! > > > > > But Miatas need premium gas and my friends Escalade > gets about 22mph highway on regular... From lists at woozy.com Tue Jul 24 13:30:23 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:30:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Sky -- Barbie Cars?? In-Reply-To: <490878.45655.qm@web51611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <490878.45655.qm@web51611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46A6534F.4090700@woozy.com> Bob Van Kirk wrote: > But Miatas need premium gas and my friends Escalade > gets about 22mph highway on regular... > Escalades get 13 city / 17 hwy at best: http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymodel/2006_Cadillac_Escalade.shtml Robert From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jul 24 13:36:10 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:36:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Sky -- Barbie Cars?? References: <20070724165404.ZVAG19497.tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca><490878.45655.qm@web51611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <5f00d9910707241220j2691ec51qe761b12c4e58079f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00aa01c7ce29$e3e560b0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >> But Miatas need premium gas and my friends Escalade >> gets about 22mph highway on regular... It is the miles per dollar that counts. Many years ago I found that I could pay a nickle a gallon more for Mobil regular unleaded in my 1987 Plymouth Duster 2.2 and get more miles per dollar than putting in Phillips66 regular unleaded. The better mileage more than paid for the more expensive gas. And that was with the stock "computer-controlled" Holley carb! For highway use, a Miata driven relatively sensibly (in theory it could happen) will get a little over 30mpg. MUCH cheaper to operate than most SUVs, unless you have to take multiple trips to get the whole team there ;-) David Lieb From froggi60 at gmail.com Tue Jul 24 14:46:13 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:46:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Cylinder Leakage Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10707241346v3627788ax4461379553f7758c@mail.gmail.com> Harbor Freight has a leak down tester for $30 #94190 This is one tool NO ONE should be without. It can tell you more about your engine than you want to know...scare you even! WFO Herb Keep the sticky side down! From racerbob70 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 24 14:50:11 2007 From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [MGVR] Need a Display Car Message-ID: <20070724205011.13596.qmail@web51603.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Can anyone help this lady out?? --- lou marchant wrote: > To: MGVR at yahoogroups.com > CC: lou marchant > From: lou marchant > Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:42:55 -0500 > Subject: [MGVR] Need a Display Car > > Hi All, > > We are having a corporate meeting with a race theme > next week in Las > Vegas at the Rio. My company would like > a race car in the corridor outside our meeting room. > Does anyone know > someone in Vegas who would like to > display their race car in the hotel? Of course I > would like to see an > MG but we would consider any race car. They > would have to bring it in Monday night and could > take it home Tuesday > evening. > > Let me know. > > > Cheers, > > > Lou > MGA #186 > > Lou Marchant > Sun Microsystems > US Systems Practice SPARC Product Boss > Data Center Ambassador Board Chair > 16000 N. Dallas Parkway > Dallas, TX 75248 > > 972 386-1299 Office > 817 929-5280 Cell > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Save Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate. > http://www.sun.com/servers/coolthreads/overview/index.jsp > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ From froggi60 at gmail.com Tue Jul 24 15:22:46 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:22:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] WOT: Sky?? In-Reply-To: <46A5F8ED.2020102@verizon.net> References: <20070724125017.EQXY18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <46A5F8ED.2020102@verizon.net> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10707241422v4805e513r87c5954ce3524b57@mail.gmail.com> They don't fit my size! From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Tue Jul 24 15:52:07 2007 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 17:52:07 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap In-Reply-To: References: <20070723125808.OFHV18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070724174951.02ca0560@littlebitcountry.com> I also found you can delete your cookies after your first vote then vote again and then delete your cookies and vote again then delete your cookies and vote again then............. Dave At 02:47 PM 7/24/2007, you wrote: >I just voted, and it is a dead tie!!! >I found that if you are running two different browsers, you can vote >from each browser. I have Mozilla and IE for mine. > >Brad > >On 7/23/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > > Looks like the spread has closed up a bit: > > Death trap: 46.8% > > Apo Rust Rockets: 37.4% > > > > http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Tue Jul 24 15:55:28 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:55:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Lifetime Oil Filter Message-ID: <893953.75972.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Any one know any thing about Lifetime Oil Filter product. http://gopurepower.com/ A friend told me to find out the mm of the bolt on my oil filter holder and he would see if they made one to fit my car. Then i could give it a try. I think all of the units are around $200. You can figure out how long it would be to pay for itself by how many times a year you change the filter. For me i figured it would take only a few years others may be longer. The one i saw was made very well. I will let you know more if i ever get my sample. I was just curious if any one had seen or used one. Vigil FV-CA-USA --------------------------------- Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jul 24 15:58:29 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 16:58:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap References: <20070723125808.OFHV18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <7.0.1.0.2.20070724174951.02ca0560@littlebitcountry.com> Message-ID: <00bc01c7ce3d$c5aacae0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> I see that some of the backmarkers are making a significant push this afternoon... David Lieb From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Tue Jul 24 16:25:20 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 17:25:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap References: <20070723125808.OFHV18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <7.0.1.0.2.20070724174951.02ca0560@littlebitcountry.com> Message-ID: <030501c7ce41$86d683f0$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> Yep, Dave!! LOL I was up this AM about 3:20 due to pain. Took project from 36.4 to 40 all by myself!! 'Course being from Chicago area................... LOL Jimmy Hoffa From gottstein at gmail.com Tue Jul 24 16:54:13 2007 From: gottstein at gmail.com (John Gottstein) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:54:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Selling my Midget Message-ID: <68f97a920707241554h4ec8bcb9ja9a5412ea73bce07@mail.gmail.com> Hi everybody, It's been great being a part of this list for so many yeas. I've made friends and have gotten a ton of help. It's time to find a new good home for my '75 Midget though, so I can pay off a little chunk of my grad school loans. I put the car on ebay, so please check it out if you're interested or know someone who is. I live in Atlanta, GA now, so feel free to come by this week for a test drive if you're in the area. Here's the link to the auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180142059890 It would be cool to see the car stay on the list. Whoever buys it, I'll make sure they know about the Spridgets list. Thanks! John Gottstein From pythias at pacifier.com Tue Jul 24 17:42:48 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 16:42:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] WOT: Sky?? In-Reply-To: <46A5F8ED.2020102@verizon.net> References: <20070724125017.EQXY18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <46A5F8ED.2020102@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1219537009.20070724164248@pacifier.com> Hello chuck, although the platforms ARE the same for the SKY and Soltice, and the body panels the same except for cosmetic details, and the engine is the same, the philosophy of the the cars IS slightly different. the SKY is a slightly better handling car.. that is "tighter".. the shocks and springs are changed for more spirited driving, and more so with the "REDLINE" edition. .. more of boy racer than a "boulevard-ier"... at least if i recall correctly from Autoweek, Road and Track, etc... -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite * "I'm waiting to see the doctor," said Tom patiently. From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jul 24 19:00:00 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 21:00:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Sky -- Barbie Cars?? In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0707241123h7cdc35bayf922c72dda7e6ec2@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070724160432.WCSI13659.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <46A62AFE.30700@verizon.net> <5f00d9910707240946w1c541a70l912c8e454a1e0e4b@mail.gmail.com> <8de85a9c0707241123h7cdc35bayf922c72dda7e6ec2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46A6A090.8070607@comcast.net> Jethro wrote: > I've been pondering lately how hard it'd be to fit AC to my Midget. > Seems that by moving the battery to the trunk there should be room for > some rework of the heater box area to accomodate AC. Anybody else > here tried it? I did adapt an AC unit to a 1275 but in an Austin A40. It worked real well but the old system I was using did rob the power. It was out of a 73 Austin Marina 1800 (MGB engine) I cut the bracket to fit the A series engine, rtan the drip tube out where the RHD steering column plug was, and stuck the condenser in front of the rad. Which you can do in a Midget. Hang the blower where the glove box is and you can have an air conditioned Midget. I ran the compressor off the later dual belt fan pulley where the air pump used to be. It worked fine for 2 summers before I took the system off. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jul 24 21:14:16 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 21:14:16 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Sky -- Barbie Cars?? In-Reply-To: <46A6A090.8070607@comcast.net> References: <20070724160432.WCSI13659.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <46A62AFE.30700@verizon.net> <5f00d9910707240946w1c541a70l912c8e454a1e0e4b@mail.gmail.com> <8de85a9c0707241123h7cdc35bayf922c72dda7e6ec2@mail.gmail.com> <46A6A090.8070607@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707242014i30a257cdvfafcf9a080a2853a@mail.gmail.com> OK, here's the next post: WTB Air conditioning system from Austin Marina. From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jul 24 21:26:15 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 23:26:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Sky -- Barbie Cars?? In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707242014i30a257cdvfafcf9a080a2853a@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070724160432.WCSI13659.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <46A62AFE.30700@verizon.net> <5f00d9910707240946w1c541a70l912c8e454a1e0e4b@mail.gmail.com> <8de85a9c0707241123h7cdc35bayf922c72dda7e6ec2@mail.gmail.com> <46A6A090.8070607@comcast.net> <5f00d9910707242014i30a257cdvfafcf9a080a2853a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46A6C2D7.8080907@comcast.net> derf wrote: > OK, here's the next post: > WTB Air conditioning system from Austin Marina. > For Sale Air conditioning setup from 73 Austin Marina Adapted to 1275 A series engine. R-12 freon, needs charge. Worked when removed from 59 Austin A40 some years back. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jul 24 22:29:03 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 21:29:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake race car show video Message-ID: <976224.25651.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axrX7xtgeqU ____________________________________________________________________________________ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ From millerls at ado13.com Tue Jul 24 23:19:31 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 22:19:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Insurance Message-ID: <056f01c7ce7b$62597e80$d280bc43@HP> Has anyone done business with a company named "Classic Auto Insurance"? If yes, are you satisfied? Larry Miller From grday at btinternet.com Wed Jul 25 03:00:29 2007 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 10:00:29 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap References: <20070723125808.OFHV18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca><7.0.1.0.2.20070724174951.02ca0560@littlebitcountry.com> <030501c7ce41$86d683f0$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <006901c7ce9a$4019b320$30e08556@tairswork> Still less then 1% between them. Now, where is this cookie jar........ GRD ----- Original Message ----- From: "WJHS1960" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 11:25 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Death Trap > < again and then delete your cookies and vote again then delete your cookies > and > vote again then.............>> > > Yep, Dave!! LOL > > I was up this AM about 3:20 due to pain. Took project from 36.4 to 40 all > by > myself!! > > 'Course being from Chicago area................... LOL > > Jimmy Hoffa > _______________________________________________ > grday at btinternet.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From cfchrist at earthlink.net Wed Jul 25 06:37:38 2007 From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 08:37:38 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [Spridgets] barbie cars? '57 chevy! Message-ID: <17814491.1185367058585.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net> hey! i'm seeking a barbie '57 chevy in complete condition? anyone have one? chuck From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jul 25 07:51:22 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 07:51:22 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Sky -- Barbie Cars?? In-Reply-To: <46A6C2D7.8080907@comcast.net> References: <20070724160432.WCSI13659.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <46A62AFE.30700@verizon.net> <5f00d9910707240946w1c541a70l912c8e454a1e0e4b@mail.gmail.com> <8de85a9c0707241123h7cdc35bayf922c72dda7e6ec2@mail.gmail.com> <46A6A090.8070607@comcast.net> <5f00d9910707242014i30a257cdvfafcf9a080a2853a@mail.gmail.com> <46A6C2D7.8080907@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707250651y3a75ef5arc55dc1e3ab52da75@mail.gmail.com> There you go, Jethro. Isn't list membership grand? > For Sale > Air conditioning setup from 73 Austin Marina From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Jul 25 07:54:13 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 9:54:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] death trap Message-ID: <20070725135413.NEDL8273.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> It's neck and neck! ( Isn't that a strange expression? I had to look it up once I wrote it to see if I had it correct. def: "So close that the lead between competitors is virtually indeterminable." ) http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx From davriker at digitalpath.net Wed Jul 25 09:11:22 2007 From: davriker at digitalpath.net (David Riker) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 08:11:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Moving Maybe. Message-ID: <00d001c7cece$110a21d0$6400a8c0@dave> Hi listers. I was just wondering if there is anybody on the list near Wenatchee, WA. I am pondering a job change and family relocation. Looking for all the plusses and minuses. The people offering me the job are doing a good sales pitch, so actually need some negatives to weigh on! David Riker davriker at digitalpath.net http://community.webshots.com/user/fool4mg http://www.myspace.com/fool4mg From wmgilroy at gmail.com Wed Jul 25 10:30:21 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 09:30:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Moving Maybe. In-Reply-To: <00d001c7cece$110a21d0$6400a8c0@dave> References: <00d001c7cece$110a21d0$6400a8c0@dave> Message-ID: <441250190707250930q4355546do6a96e4976f04fb13@mail.gmail.com> On, I may be a bit biased since I am originally from NJ and now live in the Seattle area. First I have never been to Wenatchee, but from what I can tell it is in the center of WA and there is not much around. You are right on the Columbia river which is pretty. Since you are in Eastern WA you get real weather, cold in the winter, hot in summer. You are about 2.5 hours from Seattle. If you don't mind the remoteness it is a nice place AFAIK. Looked nice when I passed through. Go spend a weekend there and see what you think. I would think that the forests and hiking there are great. I have to wonder what kind of job is in Wanatchee; it does not look very big. -g ------ Vote for Team Death Trap at http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx each day and vote for until Aug. 8th and forward this onto anyone who can help spread the word. On 7/25/07, David Riker wrote: > > Hi listers. > > I was just wondering if there is anybody on the list near Wenatchee, > WA. I am > pondering a job change and family relocation. Looking for all the plusses > and > minuses. The people offering me the job are doing a good sales pitch, so > actually need some negatives to weigh on! > > David Riker > davriker at digitalpath.net > http://community.webshots.com/user/fool4mg > http://www.myspace.com/fool4mg > _______________________________________________ > wmgilroy at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Vote for Team Death Trap at http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx each day and vote for until Aug. 8th and forward this onto anyone who can help spread the word. From pvanwig at charter.net Wed Jul 25 11:55:56 2007 From: pvanwig at charter.net (Paul Van Wig) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 10:55:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Footwear or lack thereof In-Reply-To: <010501c7ce16$6fbe8df0$6400a8c0@htpc> References: <20070724165855.HOGX18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <010501c7ce16$6fbe8df0$6400a8c0@htpc> Message-ID: <016801c7cee5$0d6c9140$9300a8c0@paula8e530ae64> Slaps from the beach to the snow! Paul Van Wig Los Angles County Lifeguard -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+pvanwig=charter.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+pvanwig=charter.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 10:17 AM To: Robert Duquette; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Footwear or lack thereof He's not the only one, The most I ever have on my feet are Tiva's (fancy flip flops), and they're frequnetly naked(my feet)! The only store I've been denied service in for bare feet was a radio shack..... I don't try restaurants or grocery stores without flops. Rick '65 Midget > Ah! So you're the guy that I've heard about whose manner of dressing > leaves 2 feet exposed. > > Ed > >> From: "David Lieb" >> I guess I have had an evil influence (she >> does wear shoes, however). From dmg at bossig.com Wed Jul 25 13:06:46 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:06:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Moving Maybe. In-Reply-To: <00d001c7cece$110a21d0$6400a8c0@dave> References: <00d001c7cece$110a21d0$6400a8c0@dave> Message-ID: <46A73CD6.15310.1390FFB@dmg.bossig.com> Hi David, I did reply from my local library but tt's being held by the system. So here is another... I live in Richland, WA. I've been to Wenatchee many times, and me and my boys have campled out there. The town is a medium size. In the mountains with lots of greenery, hot in the summer, snow in the winter. Nice canyons and rivers. It's about 2 hours from Seattel and about 3.5 hours to Spokane. The air is nice and fresh.. Thee rain stays mainly in Seattle. If you want to ask more I could sned yhou my cell number off-line. Dave G. On 25 Jul 2007 at 8:11, David Riker wrote: >> >> I was just wondering if there is anybody on the list near Wenatchee, WA. >> I am >> pondering a job change and family relocation. Looking for all the plusses >> and >> minuses. The people offering me the job are doing a good sales pitch, >> so >> actually need some negatives to weigh on! - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From wmgilroy at gmail.com Wed Jul 25 14:08:13 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 13:08:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Moving Maybe. In-Reply-To: <46A73CD6.15310.1390FFB@dmg.bossig.com> References: <00d001c7cece$110a21d0$6400a8c0@dave> <46A73CD6.15310.1390FFB@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <441250190707251308n65068110iab9a256543eb19a1@mail.gmail.com> I think it is a desert there. Looked pretty brown when I drove through and I hit a tumble weed. Vote for Team Death Trap at http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx each day and vote for until Aug. 8th and forward this onto anyone who can help spread the word. On 7/25/07, Dave G. wrote: > > Hi David, > > Thee rain stays mainly in Seattle. > -- From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jul 25 14:21:28 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:21:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Moving Maybe. References: <00d001c7cece$110a21d0$6400a8c0@dave><46A73CD6.15310.1390FFB@dmg.bossig.com> <441250190707251308n65068110iab9a256543eb19a1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00d601c7cef9$623afcc0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >I think it is a desert there. Looked pretty brown when I drove through and > I hit a tumble weed. Years ago a couple guys wrote a book called "The Oregon Desert". Very interesting reading. I loved the part about how their horses were so fast because the grass was so sparse that they had to graze at about 30 mph just to keep from starving to death. Looks as if you are closer to that scenario than to the Seattle climate. Still, there is a river through town to ameliorate things, so it can't be too bad. Garage space for LBCs should be affordable... David Lieb From cweber at advanced-input.com Wed Jul 25 14:36:56 2007 From: cweber at advanced-input.com (Weber, Chris) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 13:36:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Sunpro fuel gauge and sender Message-ID: <7C9C8BBE838DE040B781A55CD6D3FBC20287A600@ms-cda-02.advanced-input.com> Anyone installed a Sunpro (or other generic) fuel level gauge and sender on their Spridgets? I suspect my sending unit and gauge both are bad and I am looking for an inexpensive route for now to prevent a walk to the gas station. Thanks, Chris '60 Bugeye From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jul 25 14:44:25 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 14:44:25 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Sunpro fuel gauge and sender In-Reply-To: <7C9C8BBE838DE040B781A55CD6D3FBC20287A600@ms-cda-02.advanced-input.com> References: <7C9C8BBE838DE040B781A55CD6D3FBC20287A600@ms-cda-02.advanced-input.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707251344l490a2945yde94da7546c375b6@mail.gmail.com> I got a new sender a while back from PPP that wasn't very expensive. I probably have a cheap fuel gauge if you need one. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jul 25 14:46:06 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 14:46:06 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Volt meters Message-ID: <5f00d9910707251346i7fe1e2b0s4313c7aebd72bd99@mail.gmail.com> Whoever wanted the volt meters please remind me who you are. Cheers, Derf From sprite58 at hotmail.com Wed Jul 25 16:12:56 2007 From: sprite58 at hotmail.com (r moses) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 17:12:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Test Message-ID: _________________________________________________________________ http://liveearth.msn.com From mgraziano at austin.rr.com Wed Jul 25 17:32:17 2007 From: mgraziano at austin.rr.com (Michael Graziano) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:32:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget FS in Atlanta Message-ID: <0cb401c7cf14$0a891500$6600a8c0@archimedes> Hey all, Occasional list member John Gottstein has decided to sell his '75 Midget. His email below: "Hi everybody, It's been great being a part of this list for so many years. I've made friends and have gotten a ton of help. It's time to find a new good home for my '75 Midget though, so I can pay off a little chunk of my grad school loans. I put the car on ebay, so please check it out if you're interested or know someone who is. I live in Atlanta, GA now, so feel free to come by this week for a test drive if you're in the area. Here's the link to the auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem &item=180142059890 It would be cool to see the car stay on the list. Whoever buys it, I'll make sure they know about the Spridgets list. Thanks! John Gottstein " Michael Graziano The Home Retreat 249 West 2nd St Austin, TX 78701 512-391-0330(T) 512-391-0332(F) From dmg at bossig.com Wed Jul 25 18:02:53 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 17:02:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wenatchee... Message-ID: <46A7823D.391.248292A@dmg.bossig.com> http://www.wenatchee.org/quickfacts.htm - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From pythias at pacifier.com Wed Jul 25 18:31:17 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 17:31:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Moving Maybe. In-Reply-To: <00d001c7cece$110a21d0$6400a8c0@dave> References: <00d001c7cece$110a21d0$6400a8c0@dave> Message-ID: <877966816.20070725173117@pacifier.com> Hello David, depends upon what you mean by "close"... wenatchee is in eastern washinton, and tho not too distant in terms of miles, the cultures of the two different sides of the cascade mountains are widely disparate....(i'm on the west side).. i've often thought that washington and oregon should have been seperated along the mountain range, east-west, rather than along the columbia river, north south. on the plus side, you get to live in WASHINGTON state, where the people ARE reasonable, as opposed to living in oregon, where they are simply nuts... I can see why we split from them!.. (flame suit on) -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite * Jesus is coming, everyone look busy. From froggi60 at gmail.com Wed Jul 25 18:47:31 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 17:47:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Moving Maybe. In-Reply-To: <877966816.20070725173117@pacifier.com> References: <00d001c7cece$110a21d0$6400a8c0@dave> <877966816.20070725173117@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10707251747t15fee29cx4f9f8d776b2cbd79@mail.gmail.com> What do you mean...we're "...simply nuts" Herb On 7/25/07, Bill L wrote: > > Hello David, > > depends upon what you mean by "close"... wenatchee is in > eastern washinton, and tho not too distant in terms of miles, > the cultures of the two different sides of the cascade > mountains are widely disparate....(i'm on the west side).. i've > often thought that washington and oregon should have been > seperated along the mountain range, east-west, rather than > along the columbia river, north south. > > on the plus side, you get to live in WASHINGTON state, where > the people ARE reasonable, as opposed to living in oregon, > where they are simply nuts... I can see why we split from > them!.. (flame suit on) > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > "66 Sprite > * Jesus is coming, everyone look busy. > _______________________________________________ > froggi60 at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dmg at bossig.com Wed Jul 25 18:49:19 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 17:49:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Moving Maybe. In-Reply-To: <877966816.20070725173117@pacifier.com> References: <00d001c7cece$110a21d0$6400a8c0@dave>, <877966816.20070725173117@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <46A78D1F.4035.272AD13@dmg.bossig.com> Bill, The first thing that struck me about Oregon is that the gas station attendant had a hissy fit when I mistakenly tried to fill my own gas tank!! The second was how badly clear cut logging ruins the view!! I too have put on my Asbestos suit!! On 25 Jul 2007 at 17:31, Bill L wrote: >> on the plus side, you get to live in WASHINGTON state, where >> the people ARE reasonable, as opposed to living in oregon, >> where they are simply nuts... I can see why we split from >> them!.. (flame suit on) - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From dmg at bossig.com Wed Jul 25 18:51:36 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 17:51:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Moving Maybe. In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10707251747t15fee29cx4f9f8d776b2cbd79@mail.gmail.com> References: <00d001c7cece$110a21d0$6400a8c0@dave>, <877966816.20070725173117@pacifier.com>, <2ad6c6b10707251747t15fee29cx4f9f8d776b2cbd79@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46A78DA8.14975.274C499@dmg.bossig.com> Is that as opposed to "Complex Nuts" or as compared to Tail Mix ;^D dm On 25 Jul 2007 at 17:47, WFO Herb wrote: >> What do you mean...we're "...simply nuts" - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From froggi60 at gmail.com Wed Jul 25 18:56:23 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 17:56:23 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Moving Maybe. In-Reply-To: <46A78D1F.4035.272AD13@dmg.bossig.com> References: <00d001c7cece$110a21d0$6400a8c0@dave> <877966816.20070725173117@pacifier.com> <46A78D1F.4035.272AD13@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10707251756g11e5ef02k520297b2d434908d@mail.gmail.com> What roads were you traveling? Clear cuts haven't happened in many, many years. And any you've seen of late are on private land...NOT "public" lands. Try flying over the area, you might find it differently. Check Google Earth. Herb Southern Oregon Resource Alliance On 7/25/07, Dave G. wrote: > > Bill, > > The first thing that struck me about Oregon is that the gas station > attendant had a > hissy fit when I mistakenly tried to fill my own gas tank!! > The second was how badly clear cut logging ruins the view!! > > I too have put on my Asbestos suit!! > > On 25 Jul 2007 at 17:31, Bill L wrote: > > >> on the plus side, you get to live in WASHINGTON state, where > >> the people ARE reasonable, as opposed to living in oregon, > >> where they are simply nuts... I can see why we split from > >> them!.. (flame suit on) > > - > Dave G > '65 MKIII Sprite > _______________________________________________ > froggi60 at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Wed Jul 25 19:50:20 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:50:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Moving Maybe. References: <00d001c7cece$110a21d0$6400a8c0@dave> <877966816.20070725173117@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <001b01c7cf27$541fe8c0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Gotta admit though, Oregonians took their favorite indoor sport up a pretty good alley. Vote by mail, totally. Youz guys have to trek to the polls!! Still no sales tax. Pay for stuff through horrendous property taxes instead! Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill L" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Moving Maybe. > > as opposed to living in oregon, > where they are simply nuts... I can see why we split from > them!.. (flame suit on) > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > "66 Sprite > * Jesus is coming, everyone look busy. From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Wed Jul 25 20:03:37 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 19:03:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Moving Maybe. References: <00d001c7cece$110a21d0$6400a8c0@dave><877966816.20070725173117@pacifier.com> <2ad6c6b10707251747t15fee29cx4f9f8d776b2cbd79@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <005101c7cf29$2eede5a0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!! Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "WFO Herb" To: "Bill L" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Moving Maybe. > What do you mean...we're "...simply nuts" > Herb From mconn2 at bright.net Wed Jul 25 20:36:44 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 22:36:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] AN5 Message-ID: <002201c7cf2d$cf17f440$9caeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> List, I e-mailed you earlier this week telling you about re-installing the original steering wheel and the one small problem which had arisen. I forgot to mention that I'd taken it for a good drive with the new wheel, and it was great. I also drove it to Church with me Sunday, and ended up giving quite a few of the ladies and children rides in it. I enjoyed every moment of it, and so did they. (Most of the ladies called it "sweet" and most of the children called it "cool" or "awesome".) Michael From dmg at bossig.com Wed Jul 25 20:51:42 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 19:51:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Moving Maybe. In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10707251756g11e5ef02k520297b2d434908d@mail.gmail.com> References: <00d001c7cece$110a21d0$6400a8c0@dave>, <46A78D1F.4035.272AD13@dmg.bossig.com>, <2ad6c6b10707251756g11e5ef02k520297b2d434908d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46A7A9CE.14453.2E2BAFD@dmg.bossig.com> Herb, I appreciate your answer. But, with respect, from personal experience Google Earth can't show you the clear cut around Enumclaw, WA ---- tree stumps most of the way to the mountain with new growth plants slowly taking hold. Also, I believe there is clear cutting going on around Klamath Falls for housing developments for the dormitory crowd. Also around Mt Lassen Ntnl VOlcanic Park area.... I think it stinks... I think it's possible to build a house in among the trees and keep the old growth intact... I'd better shut up before I get lynched ;-) On 25 Jul 2007 at 17:56, WFO Herb wrote: >> Check Google Earth. - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From lists at woozy.com Wed Jul 25 22:19:31 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 00:19:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Transistor Voltage Stabilizers on Ebay Message-ID: <46A820D3.6030305@woozy.com> Been seeing these around on ebay for a while. Has anyone on this used one? Anything good or bad to report? Item Number 280136763443 Sure wish I could afford this Pink/Salmon colored Sprite for the Missus: Item number: 140140681218 I need to come up with a plan to substantially increase my income. All ideas are welcome as long as they are legal. Robert From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jul 25 22:42:25 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 22:42:25 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Transistor Voltage Stabilizers on Ebay In-Reply-To: <46A820D3.6030305@woozy.com> References: <46A820D3.6030305@woozy.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707252142q4c3d1fabi1bd5f59203ef5693@mail.gmail.com> You can probably do the same thing with one of these: ebay 290005253704 if you can keep the current draw under 1 amp, which shouldn't be a problem for a few gauges. You can also get a 5 amp 10V regulator that will certainly do the job. Vin goes to switched power C goes to ground Vout goes to gauges Use a small screw and nut through the hole to mount it to something metal or get a heat sink for it. Those regulators lower voltage and the by-product is a little heat. I'm sure the $15 one has a small heat sink inside. For Spridget gauge apps, the heat involved would probably be so little that you would only notice the heat sink getting warm to the touch. LM 7810 is a common 1 amp 10 volt regulator that you should be able to find locally for a buck or two. Radio Shack should have them although Radio Shack is lately become cell phone and cheap electronics shack. Cheers, Derf From chris_west at juno.com Wed Jul 25 19:44:42 2007 From: chris_west at juno.com (Chris M West) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 21:44:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tranny Question - Not LBC Message-ID: <20070726.071238.2240.0.chris_west@juno.com> Jack wrote: The stock answer from any Ford or independent trans place has been "...you need to have your transmission rebuilt..." I don't necessarily buy into this but if there is any feedback from more knowledgeable listers, I'd like really to hear it. ============================================= Jack, As stated earlier the first step is to change the fluid AND THE FILTER. Rear wheel drive (and 4x4) Fords from the early '90s up are pretty notorious for having fragile transmissions, One way to make them last longer is to change the fluid and filter once a year, regardless of mileage. BE SURE to use MERCON V rated fluid or else use standard Mercon with an additional friction modifier such as made by Lubeguard and ATP. My Aerostar has 269K miles on the original transmission (knock wood) and the only service performed has been the aforementioned fluid / filter changes. Chris AN5L35578 From amyandmatt2 at aol.com Thu Jul 26 08:50:45 2007 From: amyandmatt2 at aol.com (amyandmatt2 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:50:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Restoration Books? Message-ID: <8C99DAB7B4E58A9-B14-EA6@webmail-mf17.sysops.aol.com> Looking for the best restoration book(s) out there for 1960 Austin-Healy Bugeye Sprite. Thanks! ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. From abcoz at hky.com Thu Jul 26 12:08:45 2007 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 14:08:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Restoration Books? In-Reply-To: <8C99DAB7B4E58A9-B14-EA6@webmail-mf17.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <00d701c7cfb0$04a71140$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> My vote is for Lindsay Porter's book on the subject, written in the late 80's, and (I think) still available. Of all of the restoration guides Porter wrote, the one on Sprites and Spridgets was the best. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of amyandmatt2 at aol.com Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 9:51 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Best Restoration Books? Looking for the best restoration book(s) out there for 1960 Austin-Healy Bugeye Sprite. Thanks! From shelden3 at pldi.net Thu Jul 26 13:10:33 2007 From: shelden3 at pldi.net (Charlie Shelden) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 14:10:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Restoration B References: <00d701c7cfb0$04a71140$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <005c01c7cfb8$a4992320$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> Plus the cars that are shown in that book usually look MUCH better than the one you are working on! So it is good encouragment to the DIY'r.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Osbourne" To: ; Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Best Restoration Books? > My vote is for Lindsay Porter's book on the subject, written in the late > 80's, and (I think) still available. Of all of the restoration guides > Porter wrote, the one on Sprites and Spridgets was the best. > Bud Osbourne > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > amyandmatt2 at aol.com > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 9:51 AM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Best Restoration Books? > > Looking for the best restoration book(s) out there for 1960 Austin-Healy > Bugeye Sprite. > > Thanks!> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1794 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len From dmg at bossig.com Thu Jul 26 13:27:20 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:27:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Restoration B In-Reply-To: <005c01c7cfb8$a4992320$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> References: <00d701c7cfb0$04a71140$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>, <005c01c7cfb8$a4992320$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> Message-ID: <46A89328.29175.1489213@dmg.bossig.com> In fact, they look so much better than the one you have in the garage, it's tempting to put a Blue Tarp over yours, go out,and buy something else!! On 26 Jul 2007 at 14:10, Charlie Shelden wrote: >> Plus the cars that are shown in that book usually look MUCH better than >> the one you are working on! - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu Jul 26 14:02:38 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 13:02:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Moving Maybe. In-Reply-To: <001b01c7cf27$541fe8c0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <00d001c7cece$110a21d0$6400a8c0@dave> <877966816.20070725173117@pacifier.com> <001b01c7cf27$541fe8c0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10707261302i1d680addh3b0bd78275a93800@mail.gmail.com> Property taxes in Josephine County are the lowest in the State...36 counties worth. Which, BTW, is now our funding problem. Herb On 7/25/07, Paul Asgeirsson wrote: > > Gotta admit though, Oregonians took their favorite indoor sport up a > pretty > good alley. Vote by mail, totally. Youz guys have to trek to the polls!! > > Still no sales tax. Pay for stuff through horrendous property taxes > instead! > > Paul A > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill L" > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 5:31 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Moving Maybe. > > > > > > as opposed to living in oregon, > > where they are simply nuts... I can see why we split from > > them!.. (flame suit on) > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > "66 Sprite > > * Jesus is coming, everyone look busy. > _______________________________________________ > froggi60 at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From shelden3 at pldi.net Thu Jul 26 14:37:43 2007 From: shelden3 at pldi.net (Charlie Shelden) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 15:37:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Restoration B References: <00d701c7cfb0$04a71140$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>, <005c01c7cfb8$a4992320$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> <46A89328.29175.1489213@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <007701c7cfc4$d2c25800$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> Oops...Ment to say they look so much worse than the one in your garage you feel better about the one you have not that your project looks worse. I thought I had a rough project until I got the book. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G." To: "spridgets" Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Best Restoration B > In fact, they look so much better than the one you have in the garage, > it's > tempting to put a Blue Tarp over yours, go out,and buy something else!! > > > > - -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1794 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jul 26 14:47:29 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 15:47:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Restoration B References: <00d701c7cfb0$04a71140$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>, <005c01c7cfb8$a4992320$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx><46A89328.29175.1489213@dmg.bossig.com> <007701c7cfc4$d2c25800$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> Message-ID: <010d01c7cfc6$2eddf1c0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Oops...Ment to say they look so much worse than the one in your garage you > feel better about the one you have not that your project looks worse. I > thought I had a rough project until I got the book. I was starting to worry about the condition of the cars in your garage, Charlie ;-) That is one of the great things about that book; that the project looks like something Frank might take a pass on. From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Thu Jul 26 15:06:24 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 14:06:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Moving Maybe. References: <00d001c7cece$110a21d0$6400a8c0@dave> <877966816.20070725173117@pacifier.com> <001b01c7cf27$541fe8c0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <2ad6c6b10707261302i1d680addh3b0bd78275a93800@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <012101c7cfc8$d48a7100$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Not to worry. They'll figure out how to get adequate funding!! Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: WFO Herb To: Paul Asgeirsson Cc: Bill L ; Spridgets Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Moving Maybe. Property taxes in Josephine County are the lowest in the State...36 counties worth. Which, BTW, is now our funding problem. Herb On 7/25/07, Paul Asgeirsson wrote: Gotta admit though, Oregonians took their favorite indoor sport up a pretty good alley. Vote by mail, totally. Youz guys have to trek to the polls!! Still no sales tax. Pay for stuff through horrendous property taxes instead! Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill L" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Moving Maybe. From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Thu Jul 26 17:08:58 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 18:08:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Transistor Voltage Stabilizers on Ebay In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707252142q4c3d1fabi1bd5f59203ef5693@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200707262305.l6QN5TZ6005141@ms-smtp-03.rdc-kc.rr.com> Is 10 volts enough? Or maybe my question should be, is 12 volts too much? Thanks Chris 66MKIII Brookfield, WI -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of derf Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 11:42 PM To: Robert Weeks Cc: Spridget Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Transistor Voltage Stabilizers on Ebay You can probably do the same thing with one of these: ebay 290005253704 if you can keep the current draw under 1 amp, which shouldn't be a problem for a few gauges. You can also get a 5 amp 10V regulator that will certainly do the job. Vin goes to switched power C goes to ground Vout goes to gauges Use a small screw and nut through the hole to mount it to something metal or get a heat sink for it. Those regulators lower voltage and the by-product is a little heat. I'm sure the $15 one has a small heat sink inside. For Spridget gauge apps, the heat involved would probably be so little that you would only notice the heat sink getting warm to the touch. LM 7810 is a common 1 amp 10 volt regulator that you should be able to find locally for a buck or two. Radio Shack should have them although Radio Shack is lately become cell phone and cheap electronics shack. Cheers, Derf From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Thu Jul 26 18:01:31 2007 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:01:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070726195144.047a1d28@littlebitcountry.com> References: <20070723125808.OFHV18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <7.0.1.0.2.20070724174951.02ca0560@littlebitcountry.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070726195144.047a1d28@littlebitcountry.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070726200056.047c0c58@littlebitcountry.com> >> > > http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx >>_______________________________________________ > > >Did you vote today ?? > >Dave From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jul 26 18:29:39 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:29:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap References: <20070723125808.OFHV18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca><7.0.1.0.2.20070724174951.02ca0560@littlebitcountry.com><7.0.1.0.2.20070726195144.047a1d28@littlebitcountry.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070726200056.047c0c58@littlebitcountry.com> Message-ID: <000b01c7cfe5$386dd150$0401a8c0@midget> >>> > > http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx >>Did you vote today ?? My quota is in ;-) X-Wing Racer is moving up fast, however... From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Thu Jul 26 19:07:44 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 18:07:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap In-Reply-To: <000b01c7cfe5$386dd150$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <721202.55618.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> 6 pm California time sIFR_callback_0_DoFSCommand(info, args); Wild Card Team Thank you for voting for Soapbox Wild Card. You may only vote once per day. Death Trap 30.1% Apocalyptic Rust Rockets 27.9% X-Wing Racer 26.9% Big Pig Warriors 11.7% DB5 Devils 3.3% sIFR_callback_1_DoFSCommand(info, args); --------------------------------- Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Thu Jul 26 20:00:57 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 21:00:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap References: <721202.55618.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <007901c7cff1$f937a530$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> And I voted 7 times in a row Vigil, to get it to the .1!! Chicago, don't ya know! Going back now and vote enough times (usually 7) to raise another "point"!! HeeHee From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Thu Jul 26 21:13:47 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 22:13:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap References: <20070723125808.OFHV18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca><7.0.1.0.2.20070724174951.02ca0560@littlebitcountry.com><7.0.1.0.2.20070726195144.047a1d28@littlebitcountry.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070726200056.047c0c58@littlebitcountry.com> Message-ID: <01f501c7cffc$25e4d350$6501a8c0@actualshop> In pain & bored, Dave!! <<>> > > http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx >>_______________________________________________ > > >Did you vote today ??>> Yep, brought it up + .2 !! ChiTownEse (last name ends in vowel so I CAN!!!) From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jul 27 06:20:14 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 07:20:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap References: <721202.55618.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <007901c7cff1$f937a530$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <002c01c7d048$7c96f880$0401a8c0@midget> > And I voted 7 times in a row Vigil, to get it to the .1!! Chicago, > don't > ya know! > > Going back now and vote enough times (usually 7) to raise another > "point"!! I promise you that, with the number of votes in there right now, it takes a LOT more than 7 votes to bump it a full percentage point! Especially with all the X-Wing votes that are flying in. I did some strictly information-seeking research during lunch yesterday... Someone MUST be cheating ;-) On election day a number of years ago, Paul Harvey's blurb one morning included a bit about how some things never seem to change. He had gone into a bakery that morning and had seen a sign that offered a 35-cent discount on a dozen doughnuts with yourr ballot stub -- limit one to a customer! David Lieb, also living near Chicago From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jul 27 07:29:49 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 9:29:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] RWA Midget Message-ID: <20070727132949.GSVV1592.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> As I travelled up to my parents' place last evening, I noticed a white RWA Midget with a 'for sale' sign on a parallel street in a town I was passing through. So ... I detoured. It was a semi-glossed over mess. New Cooper tires. Top looked newish. Quick body work (bondo) over rust and rust showing through. Adhesive rubber strip down the sides instead of chrome. The rubberized rust coating coming off the bottom with the metal coming off with it. One front fender sprung at the bottom and the other one with no seam at the bottom. etc. etc. Seats looked good. There was also ( my French isn't good ) an "unfit" permit on the windshield. While I am broke, I thought that it might still be a good idea to find out how much he wanted for this 'parts' car. So, I phoned the number on the car while I sat there. $3000! I said immediately that I wasn't interested. He proudly told me that he had an estimate for a $4000 blasting and repainting job for it and continued to try to sell me on it. I didn't try to set him straight. I figured he was way too far out to lunch to waste time with. After I got him off the phone, and drove for a while, I figured maybe I should have made an offer and left my number. Maybe I should have checked the date on that permit to see how long it's been there. What would you have done? Robert D. From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jul 27 09:47:43 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 09:47:43 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 63 Sprite $995 Hattiesburg, MS, NFI, yada yada Message-ID: <5f00d9910707270847q64dea32bq30ecc0bc98fc64be@mail.gmail.com> http://hattiesburg.craigslist.org/car/381792332.html From amyandmatt2 at aol.com Fri Jul 27 09:48:04 2007 From: amyandmatt2 at aol.com (amyandmatt2 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 11:48:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets? Message-ID: <8C99E7CA7B81B82-A58-5455@webmail-de14.sysops.aol.com> I hope this isn't a stupid question....But, bear with me, I'm new at this. Are ALL Austin-Healey Bugeye/Frogeye Sprites commonly referred to as Spridgets? I understand the Sprites and Midgets are considered "twins", but getting ready to restore a Sprite, I want to know if their "same-ness" is 100%, or do I need to be on the look-out for the differences. ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Fri Jul 27 09:58:23 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 08:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] RWA Midget In-Reply-To: <20070727132949.GSVV1592.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20070727132949.GSVV1592.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <16258a3b99aa375dca4d834a.20070727085823.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Robert, I went to look at a 73 RWA Midget that someone on the list mentioned was for sale in Calimesa, CA last week. The car was rust free and the body very straight. There was a good engine and transmission in it. At least the guy said so and told me it had 60 PSi oil pressure. Sounds like he knows Spridgets. Needed an interior and seats and the brakes needed work. It had BRG paint that was faded in spots. Looked like it could be a runner with a little effort. I talked him down from his $1650 firm price to $1400 with no effort. I still passed on this car when I started adding up the restoration cost in my head after I went on Ebay and saw much better RWA cars going for only 6-700 bucks more. It sounds to me like you were looking at a parts car, you not being Frank and all. ;^) Mike MacLean 60 AN5 56 BN2 Robert Duquette > As I travelled up to my parents' place last evening, I noticed a white RWA > Midget with a 'for sale' sign on a parallel street in a town I was passing > through. So ... I detoured. It was a semi-glossed over mess. New Cooper > tires. Top looked newish. Quick body work (bondo) over rust and rust > showing through. Adhesive rubber strip down the sides instead of chrome. > The rubberized rust coating coming off the bottom with the metal coming > off with it. One front fender sprung at the bottom and the other one with > no seam at the bottom. etc. etc. Seats looked good. There was also ( my > French isn't good ) an "unfit" permit on the windshield. While I am > broke, I thought that it might still be a good idea to find out how much > he wanted for this 'parts' car. So, I phoned the number on the car while > I sat there. $3000! I said immediately that I wasn't interested. He > proudly told me that he had an estimate for a $4000 blasting and > repainting job for it and continued to try to > sell me on it. I didn't try to set him straight. I figured he was way > too far out to lunch to waste time with. After I got him off the phone, > and drove for a while, I figured maybe I should have made an offer and > left my number. Maybe I should have checked the date on that permit to > see how long it's been there. > > What would you have done? > > Robert D. From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jul 27 10:00:53 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 10:00:53 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets? In-Reply-To: <8C99E7CA7B81B82-A58-5455@webmail-de14.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C99E7CA7B81B82-A58-5455@webmail-de14.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707270900t4a69e8eap3bc618af3042621e@mail.gmail.com> Spridget = Sprite/Midget Spitfidget = later Midget with Spitfire motor Bugeye = Frogeye = Sprite MK I There were no Bugeye Midgets. Midget MK I is same as Sprite MK II. Bugeyes had different leaf spring arrangement than later Spridgets. MK I Midgets and MK II Sprites are the same car with different badging. MK II Midgets and MK III Sprites are the same......... See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin-Healey_Sprite Welcome to the nut house. Cheers, Derf From Grossac at aol.com Fri Jul 27 10:02:57 2007 From: Grossac at aol.com (Grossac at aol.com) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:02:57 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets? Message-ID: Since there was not an MG Midget equivalent of the Bugeye body style (although MG had the 948 engine in a squarebody), I would maintain that Bugeyes are only to be referred to as Sprites. But they are within the spridget family. Chris Gross #19 Bugeye Vintage Racer ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jul 27 10:07:24 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:07:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] RWA Midget Message-ID: <20070727160724.IOPY1592.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Thanks! I have no doubt that I was looking at a parts car. The seller on the other hand seemed to be selling a very rare and precious vehicle. :) Well ... I am a Frank ( Francis Robert ); just not 'that' Frank! ;) > From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > Robert, > I went to look at a 73 RWA Midget that someone on the list mentioned > was for sale in Calimesa, CA last week. The car was rust free and the > body very straight. There was a good engine and transmission in it. > At least the guy said so and told me it had 60 PSi oil pressure. > Sounds like he knows Spridgets. Needed an interior and seats and the > brakes needed work. It had BRG paint that was faded in spots. Looked > like it could be a runner with a little effort. I talked him down > from his $1650 firm price to $1400 with no effort. I still passed on > this car when I started adding up the restoration cost in my head > after I went on Ebay and saw much better RWA cars going for only 6-700 > bucks more. It sounds to me like you were looking at a parts car, you > not being Frank and all. ;^) > Mike MacLean > 60 AN5 > 56 BN2 > > > Robert Duquette > > As I travelled up to my parents' place last evening, I noticed a white RWA > > Midget with a 'for sale' sign on a parallel street in a town I was passing > > through. So ... I detoured. It was a semi-glossed over mess. New Cooper > > tires. Top looked newish. Quick body work (bondo) over rust and rust > > showing through. Adhesive rubber strip down the sides instead of chrome. > > The rubberized rust coating coming off the bottom with the metal coming > > off with it. One front fender sprung at the bottom and the other one with > > no seam at the bottom. etc. etc. Seats looked good. There was also ( my > > French isn't good ) an "unfit" permit on the windshield. While I am > > broke, I thought that it might still be a good idea to find out how much > > he wanted for this 'parts' car. So, I phoned the number on the car while > > I sat there. $3000! I said immediately that I wasn't interested. He > > proudly told me that he had an estimate for a $4000 blasting and > > repainting job for it and continued to try to > > sell me on it. I didn't try to set him straight. I figured he was way > > too far out to lunch to waste time with. After I got him off the phone, > > and drove for a while, I figured maybe I should have made an offer and > > left my number. Maybe I should have checked the date on that permit to > > see how long it's been there. > > > > What would you have done? > > > > Robert D. From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Fri Jul 27 10:03:40 2007 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:03:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 63 Sprite $995 Hattiesburg, MS, NFI, yada yada Message-ID: <32623821.1185552220617.JavaMail.root@wmvirt5> ---- derf wrote: http://hattiesburg.craigslist.org/car/381792332.html If the windows rolls up and down as well as he says, it ain't a 63! Check the conVIN against the title... Kent 1960 Bugeye 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jul 27 10:11:53 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 11:11:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets? References: Message-ID: <012e01c7d068$d9576cb0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Since there was not an MG Midget equivalent of the Bugeye body style > (although MG had the 948 engine in a squarebody), I would maintain that > Bugeyes are > only to be referred to as Sprites. But they are within the spridget > family. Matt, See, we agree to disagree. I maintain that "Spridget" is an inclusive term to cover all Sprites from 1958 to 1971 and all Midgets from 1961 to 1979. There are many little variations from year to year as well as a number of differences it trim from Sprites to Midgets. In general, Midgets were supposed to be a little more plush than the Sprites. They were built on the same assembly lines by the same people out of the same parts. Derf was a little off with the springs, however. The Sprite Marks I and II and the Midgets Mark I all had quarter-elliptic rear springs; everything after that was semi-elliptic. There are any number of things peculiar to the Bugeye/Frogeye/Crabeye Sprite. If you want concours, you had better start looing NOW for the parts you are missing. If you want a driver, many of the later parts will work just fine. David Lieb From amyandmatt2 at aol.com Fri Jul 27 10:33:10 2007 From: amyandmatt2 at aol.com (amyandmatt2 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:33:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets....now I'm REALLY getting confused! HAHA Message-ID: <8C99E82F4346C92-A58-5743@webmail-de14.sysops.aol.com> What I'm seeing as far as restoration books are concerned are those that include midgets and sprites. I've yet to find one that specifically refers to the Bugeyes/frogeyes...crabeyes(??) that's a new one for me! ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. From caws52803 at aol.com Fri Jul 27 11:06:24 2007 From: caws52803 at aol.com (caws52803 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:06:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Brits across the Pond Message-ID: <8C99E879903AEA9-9B4-5913@webmail-db11.sysops.aol.com> There has been alot of TV coverage about the flooding in England.? I was just curious if any of our Healey friends have suffered any losses. Rudy Streng BN4 AN5 Lenoir, NC ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Fri Jul 27 11:29:36 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 10:29:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Go Death Trap Message-ID: <710512.41431.qm@web38910.mail.mud.yahoo.com> 7-27-07 10:15 PST - Go Death Trap - http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx I voted today - Death Trap 30.3% X-Wing Racer 28.2% Apocalyptic Rust Rockets 27.2% Big Pig Warriors 11.2% DB5 Devils 3.2% --------------------------------- Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jul 27 11:45:08 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:45:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Go Death Trap References: <710512.41431.qm@web38910.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <014401c7d075$e05709a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Death Trap 30.3% > X-Wing Racer 28.2% > Apocalyptic Rust Rockets 27.2% > Big Pig Warriors 11.2% > DB5 Devils 3.2% Wow, X-Wing has moved up to second place!!! Better watch out. From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Jul 27 13:17:21 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:17:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 63 Sprite $995 Hattiesburg, MS, NFI, yada yada In-Reply-To: <32623821.1185552220617.JavaMail.root@wmvirt5> References: <32623821.1185552220617.JavaMail.root@wmvirt5> Message-ID: <46AA44C1.9080307@comcast.net> That is a 65 or 66 Sprite MKIII -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From Grossac at aol.com Fri Jul 27 13:29:21 2007 From: Grossac at aol.com (Grossac at aol.com) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:29:21 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets....now I'm REALLY getting confused! HAHA Message-ID: Well, they are Bugeye Sprites, not Bugeye Midgets. ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jul 27 13:45:14 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:45:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Lock up your cats! Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070727143919.033a5040@mailbag.com> We got hit last night and our 2 delivery vehicles, Pokey and Stinky, had their catalytic converters removed. Apparently the whole area has been experiencing this for a few months. Police couldn't care less. (neither do I but it's loud) I can't think of a good way to secure them from roving bandits with cordless Sawzalls. ( I KNEW those things were gonna be a problem the first time I saw one) (The "tavern" next door got Sawzalled into a few years back) So, yet another positive for pre-cat cars like our beloved LBCs. Carry on. Peter C. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jul 27 14:10:13 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:10:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Lock up your cats! References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070727143919.033a5040@mailbag.com> Message-ID: <014e01c7d08a$24c40980$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > So, yet another positive for pre-cat cars like our beloved LBCs. BUT, do these people know that there is no cat on your Mini? What do you suppose would be missing if they tried??? From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jul 27 14:13:41 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:13:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Lock up your cats! References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070727143919.033a5040@mailbag.com> <014e01c7d08a$24c40980$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <015201c7d08a$a0c57d70$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >> So, yet another positive for pre-cat cars like our beloved LBCs. > > BUT, do these people know that there is no cat on your Mini? What do you > suppose would be missing if they tried??? A wheel chock? From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Fri Jul 27 14:24:34 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:24:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Lock up your cats! In-Reply-To: <015201c7d08a$a0c57d70$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070727143919.033a5040@mailbag.com> <014e01c7d08a$24c40980$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <015201c7d08a$a0c57d70$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0707271324n18975753ya4ce3754f1f10091@mail.gmail.com> Peter C, that's been a big deal in northern wisconsin for a few years, and down here a Mitsu dealer got an entire row of eclipses cut up. Not only did they have to replace the whole exhaust since it was sawzalled, they can't sell the cars as "new." I seen a scrapper on the road the other day with what looked like a gorilla cage on the back of his truck, with locks on it. I guess the goal there was to keep the savages on the outside of the cage. It's big business... On 7/27/07, David Lieb wrote: > >> So, yet another positive for pre-cat cars like our beloved LBCs. > > > > BUT, do these people know that there is no cat on your Mini? What do you > > suppose would be missing if they tried??? > > A wheel chock? > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jul 27 14:40:08 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:40:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Lock up your cats! In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0707271324n18975753ya4ce3754f1f10091@mail.gmail.co m> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070727143919.033a5040@mailbag.com> <014e01c7d08a$24c40980$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <015201c7d08a$a0c57d70$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <8a336b9d0707271324n18975753ya4ce3754f1f10091@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070727153558.0347cec0@nosimport.com> I have a... ah.... er.... ahem... a "test tube" on the cars now. Home made. What I need is a sign that says "No CAT on board" or some such. BTW, It ain't "big business" It's big crime. Someday you'll need a license to own a Sawzall and not one to own a gun. (that's pretty good, we have 2 out of 3 requisite Spridget subjects going here) That deserves a beer...ooooooooooops, that does it! Ciao = At 03:24 PM 7/27/2007, Flash. wrote: >Peter C, that's been a big deal in northern wisconsin for a few years, >and down here a Mitsu dealer got an entire row of eclipses cut up. >Not only did they have to replace the whole exhaust since it was >sawzalled, they can't sell the cars as "new." > >I seen a scrapper on the road the other day with what looked like a >gorilla cage on the back of his truck, with locks on it. I guess the >goal there was to keep the savages on the outside of the cage. > >It's big business... > >On 7/27/07, David Lieb wrote: > > >> So, yet another positive for pre-cat cars like our beloved LBCs. > > > > > > BUT, do these people know that there is no cat on your Mini? What do you > > > suppose would be missing if they tried??? > > > > A wheel chock? From dmg at bossig.com Fri Jul 27 15:05:38 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:05:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Lock up your cats! In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070727143919.033a5040@mailbag.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070727143919.033a5040@mailbag.com> Message-ID: <46A9FBB2.16018.19E14F1@dmg.bossig.com> Not that I would dream of doing this ??? But one side of 220V AC connected to the handle/lock, and the other side of the 220V AC connected to the steel scraper mat in front of the door has an amazing deterent effect!! Just remember to have a hidden breaker somewhere to cut it off.... From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Fri Jul 27 15:09:27 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:09:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Lock up your cats! In-Reply-To: <46A9FBB2.16018.19E14F1@dmg.bossig.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070727143919.033a5040@mailbag.com> <46A9FBB2.16018.19E14F1@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0707271409g1b956edn2813002860658c12@mail.gmail.com> guy did that a few years ago and accidentally killed a man (and you can, breaker or not). Guess who went to prison. On 7/27/07, Dave G. wrote: > Not that I would dream of doing this ??? > > But one side of 220V AC connected to the handle/lock, and the other side of > the 220V AC connected to the steel scraper mat in front of the door has an > amazing deterent effect!! > > Just remember to have a hidden breaker somewhere to cut it off.... > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 27 15:10:30 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:10:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Lock up your cats! References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070727143919.033a5040@mailbag.com><46A9FBB2.16018.19E14F1@dmg.bossig.com> <8a336b9d0707271409g1b956edn2813002860658c12@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0fbb01c7d092$91007f40$6401a8c0@Larry> The dead guy?? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Flash." To: "Spridget List" Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Lock up your cats! guy did that a few years ago and accidentally killed a man (and you can, breaker or not). Guess who went to prison. On 7/27/07, Dave G. wrote: > Not that I would dream of doing this ??? > > But one side of 220V AC connected to the handle/lock, and the other side > of > the 220V AC connected to the steel scraper mat in front of the door has an > amazing deterent effect!! > > Just remember to have a hidden breaker somewhere to cut it off.... > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 _______________________________________________ ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jul 27 15:12:27 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:12:27 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Lock up your cats! In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0707271409g1b956edn2813002860658c12@mail.gmail.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070727143919.033a5040@mailbag.com> <46A9FBB2.16018.19E14F1@dmg.bossig.com> <8a336b9d0707271409g1b956edn2813002860658c12@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707271412x216acae9n28240870303e690e@mail.gmail.com> Reminds me of the old time 12 gauge "burglar alarms" that you pointed at the door and set. From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Fri Jul 27 15:13:47 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:13:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Lock up your cats! In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707271412x216acae9n28240870303e690e@mail.gmail.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070727143919.033a5040@mailbag.com> <46A9FBB2.16018.19E14F1@dmg.bossig.com> <8a336b9d0707271409g1b956edn2813002860658c12@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910707271412x216acae9n28240870303e690e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0707271413y1216ddf7p47fcfe0b1c54388a@mail.gmail.com> What's that? Sorry, I don't get the Carnie Times. On 7/27/07, derf wrote: > Reminds me of the old time 12 gauge "burglar alarms" that you pointed > at the door and set. > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - $999 From froggi60 at gmail.com Fri Jul 27 15:19:51 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:19:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets....now I'm REALLY getting confused! HAHA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10707271419n65efee17l5d6e1954ef40b81c@mail.gmail.com> I've seen a few midgets with bugeyes! On 7/27/07, Grossac at aol.com wrote: > > Well, they are Bugeye Sprites, not Bugeye Midgets. > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL > at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > _______________________________________________ > froggi60 at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Fri Jul 27 15:26:22 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:26:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Lock up your cats! References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070727143919.033a5040@mailbag.com><46A9FBB2.16018.19E14F1@dmg.bossig.com><8a336b9d0707271409g1b956edn2813002860658c12@mail.gmail.com> <0fbb01c7d092$91007f40$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <002b01c7d094$c83b1180$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> Only in Chicago, Larry!! Know why?? Only way they can still VOTE!!!! From hal at katemuir.com Fri Jul 27 15:38:57 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:38:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets....now I'm REALLY getting confused! HAHA In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Along these lines I have a coworker who refers to FROG AYE as a "spridget" yet calls his friend's Midget a Midget. Go figure. As far as I am concerned they are all spridgets (except maybe the spitfidgets.... Hal From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jul 27 15:36:26 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:36:26 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Lock up your cats! In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0707271413y1216ddf7p47fcfe0b1c54388a@mail.gmail.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070727143919.033a5040@mailbag.com> <46A9FBB2.16018.19E14F1@dmg.bossig.com> <8a336b9d0707271409g1b956edn2813002860658c12@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910707271412x216acae9n28240870303e690e@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0707271413y1216ddf7p47fcfe0b1c54388a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707271436p4b78e19cn469b314475e882de@mail.gmail.com> Carnie times? Is that for carnival workers? You work carnivals? Anyway, In the UK they're called spring guns: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring-gun On 7/27/07, Flash. wrote: > What's that? Sorry, I don't get the Carnie Times. > > On 7/27/07, derf wrote: > > Reminds me of the old time 12 gauge "burglar alarms" that you pointed > > at the door and set. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jul 27 15:42:04 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:42:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets....now I'm REALLY getting confused! HAHA References: Message-ID: <016c01c7d096$f98cbb10$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Along these lines I have a coworker who refers to FROG AYE as a "spridget" > yet calls his friend's Midget a Midget. > Go figure. But he is 100% correct on both counts ;-) Strangely enough, although I firmly believe in the all-inclusive definition of "Spridgets", I do not even consider ownership of anything but an RWA Midget. I don't entirely understand this prejudice, but I think I could extend it to include RWA Sprites (Bugeyes) as well... David Lieb From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jul 27 16:06:16 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:06:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets....now I'm REALLY getting confused! HAHA References: <016c01c7d096$f98cbb10$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <0fd601c7d099$73c989b0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <000301c7d09a$5ac920a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > It's because they look so much better than the square arch models. > But you won't even consider a Bugeye? I would consider it, but I wouldn't pay twice as much for it... From froggi60 at gmail.com Fri Jul 27 16:31:50 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:31:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets? In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707270900t4a69e8eap3bc618af3042621e@mail.gmail.com> References: <8C99E7CA7B81B82-A58-5455@webmail-de14.sysops.aol.com> <5f00d9910707270900t4a69e8eap3bc618af3042621e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10707271531n582365dkb35a38883a24f9ef@mail.gmail.com> I find this interesting. According to wikipedia, there were 48,987 Bugeyes and a total of 80,360 later cars, yet look how few of the early cars you see on the road. Reason??? From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jul 27 16:58:24 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:58:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets? References: <8C99E7CA7B81B82-A58-5455@webmail-de14.sysops.aol.com><5f00d9910707270900t4a69e8eap3bc618af3042621e@mail.gmail.com> <2ad6c6b10707271531n582365dkb35a38883a24f9ef@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000901c7d0a1$a3820df0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > According to wikipedia, there were 48,987 Bugeyes and a total of 80,360 > later cars, yet look how few of the early cars you see on the road. Is that just for Sprites? The numbers I have seen in the past for the inclusive definition of Spridgets were more along the lines of 235,000 cars total. I see very few of any vintage of Spridgets on the road. From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Jul 27 16:59:50 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:59:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Lock up your cats! In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070727153558.0347cec0@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <665847.84089.qm@web30509.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Peter C wrote: > BTW, It ain't "big business" It's big crime. Mafia does it for real. DON'T ask how I know... We had 2 guys show up at work claiming they were from the metal scrapper we use, saying they were there to pick up the weekly load. They were fakes (and really stupid), we chased 'em off and called the cops. It's turned into an organized crime thing as well, just not the professional organized stuff yet in these parts. Our new 6-axis machine damn near emails the scrap for us automatically ;) Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jul 27 19:03:51 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:03:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets....now I'm REALLY getting confused! HAHA In-Reply-To: <000301c7d09a$5ac920a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <016c01c7d096$f98cbb10$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <0fd601c7d099$73c989b0$6401a8c0@Larry> <000301c7d09a$5ac920a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <43840a7e0707271803g611f7321jca86fa8d01692555@mail.gmail.com> As the owner of a square arch 1968 Midget I am totally crushed. I thought it was a great looking car! I was willing to pay twice as much as a Bugeye for it!! Now I am despondent. I'm goin' down to the railroad Put my head on the rail Gonna let that lonesome 509 carry my blues away... Jim - ugly 68 Midget in Dodge City so says David.... On 7/27/07, David Lieb wrote: > > It's because they look so much better than the square arch models. > > But you won't even consider a Bugeye? > > I would consider it, but I wouldn't pay twice as much for it... From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri Jul 27 18:56:15 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:56:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets? Message-ID: <380-22007762805615390@earthlink.net> Perhaps I can put all of this questioning in perspective, for I was around when the news came out that Donald Healey had announced a successor to the Austin-Healey Sprite that for some still unknown reason he was going to call the Sprite Mark II. I can tell you that all of the Sprite owners I knew were aghast and appalled by the "new" apparition. First, we felt it was ridiculous it was for it to be called a Sprite "Mark II" when there had never been a Mark I! Beyond that, the looks of the new design were so put-offish. It didn't even look like a REAL Sprite. And that was all that Sprites were generally known by "in the beginning". No "Bugeye", no "Frogeye", they were simply Sprites. So what did we call those new things? "Wannabe Sprites". So to me, the first was was the only true Sprite, although we did call the newer ones the "new Sprites" to make a distinction, and when MG was thrown into the mix, we still called each either a new Sprite or a Midget. It would be years before I heard the term "Spridgets". (I often wonder who first coined the word.) Now that is the unvarnished truth. From my Mesozoic perspective. Buster From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 27 19:09:03 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:09:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets....now I'm REALLY getting confused! HAHA References: <016c01c7d096$f98cbb10$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov><0fd601c7d099$73c989b0$6401a8c0@Larry><000301c7d09a$5ac920a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <43840a7e0707271803g611f7321jca86fa8d01692555@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <102601c7d0b3$e4c86450$6401a8c0@Larry> JJ, if you really do that, can I have your ugly Midget? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" Cc: "Spridget List" Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets....now I'm REALLY getting confused! HAHA As the owner of a square arch 1968 Midget I am totally crushed. I thought it was a great looking car! I was willing to pay twice as much as a Bugeye for it!! Now I am despondent. I'm goin' down to the railroad Put my head on the rail Gonna let that lonesome 509 carry my blues away... Jim - ugly 68 Midget in Dodge City so says David.... On 7/27/07, David Lieb wrote: > > It's because they look so much better than the square arch models. > > But you won't even consider a Bugeye? > > I would consider it, but I wouldn't pay twice as much for it... _______________________________________________ ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kevin at valentinephoto.net Fri Jul 27 19:08:13 2007 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:08:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets....now I'm REALLY getting confused! HAHA In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0707271803g611f7321jca86fa8d01692555@mail.gmail.com> References: <016c01c7d096$f98cbb10$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <0fd601c7d099$73c989b0$6401a8c0@Larry> <000301c7d09a$5ac920a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <43840a7e0707271803g611f7321jca86fa8d01692555@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6DDB4470-DD76-4E32-917C-0CF5CDF0E3F5@valentinephoto.net> On Jul 27, 2007, at 9:03 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > > I'm goin' down to the railroad > Put my head on the rail Everyone watch the news tonight, Jim is gonna derail a train with his head ;) From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jul 27 19:18:11 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:18:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets? In-Reply-To: <380-22007762805615390@earthlink.net> References: <380-22007762805615390@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0707271818y5096be0webe2278461150648@mail.gmail.com> Ah!! Wisdom from the Evansoaurous!! Cheers!! Jim - Who has reconsidered and will continue to drive his 68 Midget in shame.... On 7/27/07, Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > Perhaps I can put all of this questioning in perspective, for I was around when the news came out that Donald Healey had announced a successor to the Austin-Healey Sprite that for some still unknown reason he was going to call the Sprite Mark II. > I can tell you that all of the Sprite owners I knew were aghast and appalled by the "new" apparition. First, we felt it was ridiculous it was for it to be called a Sprite "Mark II" when there had never been a Mark I! Beyond that, the looks of the new design were so put-offish. It didn't even look like a REAL Sprite. And that was all that Sprites were generally known by "in the beginning". No "Bugeye", no "Frogeye", they were simply Sprites. > So what did we call those new things? "Wannabe Sprites". So to me, the first was was the only true Sprite, although we did call the newer ones the "new Sprites" to make a distinction, and when MG was thrown into the mix, we still called each either a new Sprite or a Midget. It would be years before I heard the term "Spridgets". (I often wonder who first coined the word.) > Now that is the unvarnished truth. From my Mesozoic perspective. > Buster > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From mconn2 at bright.net Fri Jul 27 19:29:58 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:29:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets....now I'm REALLY getting confused! HAHA References: <016c01c7d096$f98cbb10$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov><0fd601c7d099$73c989b0$6401a8c0@Larry><000301c7d09a$5ac920a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <43840a7e0707271803g611f7321jca86fa8d01692555@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000c01c7d0b6$d063dfa0$f8aeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> Jim, Just wait until women get the vote, then we can all sing the blues. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" Cc: "Spridget List" Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 9:03 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets....now I'm REALLY getting confused! HAHA > As the owner of a square arch 1968 Midget I am totally crushed. I > thought it was a great looking car! I was willing to pay twice as > much as a Bugeye for it!! Now I am despondent. > > I'm goin' down to the railroad > Put my head on the rail > Gonna let that lonesome 509 > carry my blues away... > > Jim - ugly 68 Midget in Dodge City so says David.... > > On 7/27/07, David Lieb wrote: >> > It's because they look so much better than the square arch models. >> > But you won't even consider a Bugeye? >> >> I would consider it, but I wouldn't pay twice as much for it... > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jul 27 19:33:50 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 19:33:50 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets....now I'm REALLY getting confused! HAHA In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0707271803g611f7321jca86fa8d01692555@mail.gmail.com> References: <016c01c7d096$f98cbb10$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <0fd601c7d099$73c989b0$6401a8c0@Larry> <000301c7d09a$5ac920a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <43840a7e0707271803g611f7321jca86fa8d01692555@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707271833v77c1a29eh2f6900cdb85c09b7@mail.gmail.com> > I'm goin' down to the railroad > Put my head on the rail > Gonna let that lonesome 509 > carry my blues away... Hey, one of the listers is a train driver. From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri Jul 27 20:05:30 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 19:05:30 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets? Message-ID: <46AAA46A.5050108@earthlink.net> Jim Johnson wrote: Ah!! Wisdom from the Evansoaurous!! Jim - Who has reconsidered and will continue to drive his 68 Midget in shame.... Ah, come on Jim, buck up! No need for any shame. Walk tall with your head up and proud, for you have a remarkable brand its own right. And all of us "back then" have all came to terms with "it". For me, my wrists healed nicely, and I know some guys who eventually bought Spridgets. OK, one of them was the 500th off the Golden Gate, but I think it had more to do with an ex-wife than his Sprite. And if I mistakenly call them all Sprites, forgive me. For it all what we have come to call "progress" even if we do so with a tear in our eyes. Buster Evans Spridg.....no, I can't do it, Sprite owner! From dmg at bossig.com Fri Jul 27 20:40:19 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 19:40:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets....now I'm REALLY getting confused! HAHA In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0707271803g611f7321jca86fa8d01692555@mail.gmail.com> References: , <000301c7d09a$5ac920a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>, <43840a7e0707271803g611f7321jca86fa8d01692555@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46AA4A23.27463.2D07F05@dmg.bossig.com> That means I gotta be in the minority?? in my (NSH) opinion.... I think the SWA on a square body with wire wheels looks better than a RWA on a square body with wire wheels... it just does ;^D Dave G. On 27 Jul 2007 at 20:03, Jim Johnson wrote: >> As the owner of a square arch 1968 Midget I am totally crushed. I >> thought it was a great looking car! I was willing to pay twice as >> much as a Bugeye for it!! Now I am despondent. - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Jul 27 21:04:08 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 23:04:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets....now I'm REALLY getting confused! HAHA In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0707271803g611f7321jca86fa8d01692555@mail.gmail.com> References: <016c01c7d096$f98cbb10$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <0fd601c7d099$73c989b0$6401a8c0@Larry> <000301c7d09a$5ac920a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <43840a7e0707271803g611f7321jca86fa8d01692555@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46AAB228.4020505@comcast.net> Jim Johnson wrote: > As the owner of a square arch 1968 Midget I am totally crushed. I > thought it was a great looking car! And I took a 69 square arch Midget and made the wheel arches ROUND. I also stuck a bugeye nose on it and some funky tail lights. A real cluster fluke ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Jul 28 00:45:46 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 23:45:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] BusterCluster Anniversary Announcement Message-ID: <380-22007762864546937@earthlink.net> It was one year ago today that 23 guys who, like me, have fallen in love with that most loveable of all cars, the Spridgets. came to our home for one of the memorable weekends that most of us have ever had. The BusterCluster was a mystical, magical weekend that none who experienced it will ever forget. But it seems that it was a happening that refuses to end. While Frank Clarici and I were in England, we were contacted by Theo Gillam who is now producing a feature story for Practical Classics magazine. This article, scheduled for the October edition, will tell the story of this of this incredible gathering, and salute the 23 guys who came here from all over America to make the BusterCluster possible. And now, for the one-year anniversary, Ed Kaler has schemed behind my back with some of those who were here to provide us all with a fitting tribute to the cars and the people who love them. For the last year, little did I know that Ed was putting this all together behind my back. Picking up more photos from other participants, gathering some video, and weaving into the most amazing CD I think I will ever see. And now, I would like all of you to relive those fun days that began a year ago today. To top it all off so that the world can enjoy it, he has even created a website http://www.bustercluster2006.org/ . So sit back, relax, and enjoy it again. Finally, Pam and I have to add Theo and Ed to that long list of friends who have made the BusterCluster so wonderful to us. Thanks Ed and Theo! Buster and Pam From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Jul 28 05:48:41 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 06:48:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] BusterCluster Anniversary Announcement References: <380-22007762864546937@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <005701c7d10d$3f414290$0401a8c0@midget> > It was one year ago today that 23 guys who, like me, have fallen in love > with that most loveable of all cars, the Spridgets. Ooooh, Buster said "Spridgets"!!!! From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Jul 28 05:51:58 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 06:51:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Go Death Trap References: <710512.41431.qm@web38910.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005a01c7d10d$b4120b90$0401a8c0@midget> Apocalyptic Rust Rockets 29.9% Death Trap 29.3% X-Wing Racer 27.3% Big Pig Warriors 10.5% DB5 Devils 3% The rust rockets have taken the lead! Are we going to sit idly by and let them think they can cheat better than we can??? Flush those cookies! ED From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Sat Jul 28 09:12:29 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 10:12:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Go Death Trap References: <710512.41431.qm@web38910.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <005a01c7d10d$b4120b90$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <07e801c7d129$b74f7290$6501a8c0@actualshop> DL said: <> This was penned for the MGS List but for those of you who wish to further assist: ***************************************************************************** ************ Easier yet David (and being from Chjicago area I CAN say & advocate), after Vote is placed and while reading the bar chart Click on "Tools" and select "Internet Options" The click on "Delete Cookies" When second window pops-up select "OK". Couple seconds and click on "OK" the just hit "refresh" & you will return to Page # 1,and you can Vote AGAIN!!! Nite before last while up for extreme pain & waiting for Vicodin to kick in I brougth the from 34.6% to 40.1% (which of course changed back as other Team votes came in). Anonici ***************************************************************************** ********* http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx a short time ago I used above (=s SIX "clicks") and in 5 mts flat Voted 7 times and raised them .1% From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Jul 28 09:33:17 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 10:33:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Go Death Trap References: <710512.41431.qm@web38910.mail.mud.yahoo.com><005a01c7d10d$b4120b90$0401a8c0@midget> <07e801c7d129$b74f7290$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <006401c7d12c$9f55b930$0401a8c0@midget> > Easier yet David (and being from Chjicago area I CAN say & advocate), > after > Vote is placed and while reading the bar chart Click on "Tools" and select > "Internet Options" The click on "Delete Cookies" When second window > pops-up > select "OK". Couple seconds and click on "OK" the just hit "refresh" & > you > will return to Page # 1,and you can Vote AGAIN!!! > > Nite before last while up for extreme pain & waiting for Vicodin to kick > in I > brougth the from 34.6% to 40.1% (which of course changed back as other > Team > votes came in). > > Anonici Uh, Anonici, you just gave the directions for doing EXACTLY what I suggested. For those with IE7, it is possible to do it more easily than that. Right-click the main IE icon on your desktop and go into properties. Click on the Delete button on the General tab then hit the Delete Cookies button. NO need to close this dialog box, just move it over and fire up IE in partial-screen mode. Leave both up at all times and just switch between voting and tossing the cookies. From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Jul 28 10:45:17 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 09:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Car buffer - no direct Lbc Message-ID: <189008.2392.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Looking for your recommendations for a good car buffer/polisher. They look similarly spec'd in the $50 to $100 range. There's also a variety of pad types - what say you? Ron Soave "Take it, Dee Dee" - http://youtube.com/watch?v=9BYOulnVXAE ____________________________________________________________________________________ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting From mark at nashvilletn.org Sat Jul 28 10:59:39 2007 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 11:59:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Car buffer - no direct Lbc References: <189008.2392.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00d001c7d138$b1b1ecf0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> Ron, I bought a Porter Cable 7424 about 5 years ago and it is great. I use the factory foam buffer pads. I have tried a couple of the pricey alternatives and can't tell the difference. It has plenty of power and is orbital so it is more forgiving on sharp corners. I buy the PC foam pads from the same place for about $4.00. I keep several in rotation and separate the one for wax and for polish. Just wash them out in the sink with Dawn when done. http://www.properautocare.com/basporcab74p.html http://www.properautocare.com/repporcabfoa.html Mark Nashville http://www.arrestmered.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" Looking for your recommendations for a good car buffer/polisher. /spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Jul 28 11:12:29 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 10:12:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Car buffer - no direct Lbc In-Reply-To: <00d001c7d138$b1b1ecf0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> Message-ID: <168793.43796.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Mark wrote: > I bought a Porter Cable 7424 about 5 years ago and > it is great. I use the > http://www.properautocare.com/basporcab74p.html THanks, Mark. I had found it a little cheaper - I read good stuff about it as well. http://www.coastaltool.com/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/a/port/7424_car_buffer.htm?E+coastest Ron Soave "Take it, Dee Dee" - http://youtube.com/watch?v=9BYOulnVXAE ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Sat Jul 28 11:38:07 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 12:38:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget parts for sale-SE Wisconsin In-Reply-To: <168793.43796.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <00d001c7d138$b1b1ecf0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> <168793.43796.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi all-found this locally. No ties to it, don't know the guy, YMMV, etc. Wants to sell it as a lot and just can't fit all the stuff at this time. http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/pts/382362067.html Chris 66MKIII Brookfield, WI From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Jul 28 12:23:03 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 11:23:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Car buffer - no direct Lbc In-Reply-To: <189008.2392.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The buffers made by real power tool companies are good. The plastic one I bought at Pep Boys ended up in the trash after my second attempt at polishing something. BZ From dmg at bossig.com Sat Jul 28 12:42:43 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 11:42:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget parts for sale-SE Wisconsin In-Reply-To: References: <00d001c7d138$b1b1ecf0$0600a8c0@Dell9200>, <168793.43796.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, Message-ID: <46AB2BB3.19947.1235CAF@dmg.bossig.com> I notice that this always happens to me with the following conditions... a) The deal is nearly always over 1000 miles away! And, b) I haven't got the space to put it - no matter how hard I try! Dave G. On 28 Jul 2007 at 12:38, cmanuel at wi.rr.com wrote: >> Hi all-found this locally. No ties to it, don't know the guy, YMMV, >> etc. Wants to sell it as a lot and just can't fit all the stuff at >> this time. - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Sat Jul 28 13:15:38 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 14:15:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget parts for sale-SE Wisconsin In-Reply-To: <46AB2BB3.19947.1235CAF@dmg.bossig.com> References: <00d001c7d138$b1b1ecf0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> <168793.43796.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <46AB2BB3.19947.1235CAF@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: tell me about it-I only need about a wheel barrel full from this stash. I know my wife would notice. If anyone in the area is interested, let me know and maybe we can get a group buy. Chris 66MKIII Brookfield, WI ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G." Date: Saturday, July 28, 2007 1:43 pm Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget parts for sale-SE Wisconsin To: Spridgets > I notice that this always happens to me with the following > conditions...a) The deal is nearly always over 1000 miles away! > And, > b) I haven't got the space to put it - no matter how hard I try! > > > Dave G. > > On 28 Jul 2007 at 12:38, cmanuel at wi.rr.com wrote: > > >> Hi all-found this locally. No ties to it, don't know the guy, > YMMV, > >> etc. Wants to sell it as a lot and just can't fit all the > stuff at > >> this time. > > - > Dave G > '65 MKIII Sprite From froggi60 at gmail.com Sat Jul 28 15:13:45 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 14:13:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] BusterCluster Anniversary Announcement In-Reply-To: <380-22007762864546937@earthlink.net> References: <380-22007762864546937@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10707281413g50b375f7u3c8e525ec576ce5e@mail.gmail.com> Thanks for sharing the 'experience' with the rest of us. Even got to hear some original music, right Jim. Herb From froggi60 at gmail.com Sat Jul 28 15:22:13 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 14:22:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] INVENTIONS Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10707281422k306ced10p54e46f0060c50da5@mail.gmail.com> Thoughts??? Any other information out there on this? Herb [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type video/x-ms-wmv which had a name of May42007WKYCCleveland.wmv] From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Sat Jul 28 15:27:26 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 16:27:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] INVENTIONS In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10707281422k306ced10p54e46f0060c50da5@mail.gmail.com> References: <2ad6c6b10707281422k306ced10p54e46f0060c50da5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0707281427wbcb5e1dq643be88c58f229cd@mail.gmail.com> some kind of anti virus software deleted your attachment. I don't think it was mine so I'd assume it was your outgoing or the list software. On 7/28/07, WFO Herb wrote: > Thoughts??? > > Any other information out there on this? > > Herb > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type video/x-ms-wmv which had a name of May42007WKYCCleveland.wmv] > _______________________________________________ > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - Reduced! $875 From froggi60 at gmail.com Sat Jul 28 15:43:47 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 14:43:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets....now I'm REALLY getting confused! HAHA In-Reply-To: <46AAB228.4020505@comcast.net> References: <016c01c7d096$f98cbb10$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <0fd601c7d099$73c989b0$6401a8c0@Larry> <000301c7d09a$5ac920a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <43840a7e0707271803g611f7321jca86fa8d01692555@mail.gmail.com> <46AAB228.4020505@comcast.net> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10707281443k5a81f4c2n352d6830bf8d0e25@mail.gmail.com> Frank, Bet you were one of those that cut the center rear window divider out of your '63 Vette when the '64s came out, weren't you! Herb On 7/27/07, Frank Clarici wrote: > > Jim Johnson wrote: > > As the owner of a square arch 1968 Midget I am totally crushed. I > > thought it was a great looking car! > > And I took a 69 square arch Midget and made the wheel arches ROUND. > I also stuck a bugeye nose on it and some funky tail lights. > A real cluster fluke ;) > > -- From froggi60 at gmail.com Sat Jul 28 15:54:27 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 14:54:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets? In-Reply-To: <380-22007762805615390@earthlink.net> References: <380-22007762805615390@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10707281454y52895f61x15108fe5cfda8f9a@mail.gmail.com> Perhaps they should be referred to as "New Sprite". Mini...New MINI Beetle...New Beetle Others??? On 7/27/07, Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > > Perhaps I can put all of this questioning in perspective, for I was around > when the news came out that Donald Healey had announced a successor to the > Austin-Healey Sprite that for some still unknown reason he was going to call > the Sprite Mark II. > I can tell you that all of the Sprite owners I knew were aghast and > appalled by the "new" apparition. First, we felt it was ridiculous it was > for it to be called a Sprite "Mark II" when there had never been a Mark > I! Beyond that, the looks of the new design were so put-offish. It didn't > even look like a REAL Sprite. And that was all that Sprites were generally > known by "in the beginning". No "Bugeye", no "Frogeye", they were simply > Sprites. > So what did we call those new things? "Wannabe Sprites". So to me, the > first was was the only true Sprite, although we did call the newer ones the > "new Sprites" to make a distinction, and when MG was thrown into the mix, we > still called each either a new Sprite or a Midget. It would be years before > I heard the term "Spridgets". (I often wonder who first coined the word.) > Now that is the unvarnished truth. From my Mesozoic perspective. > Buster > _______________________________________________ > froggi60 at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Sat Jul 28 15:56:20 2007 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:56:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I need some of what he's smokin... Message-ID: <22852118.1185659780872.JavaMail.root@wmvirt5> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1967-AUSTIN-HEALEY-MG-MIDGET-CONVERTIBLE-Needs-Assembly_W0QQitemZ320140406790QQihZ011QQcategoryZ31859QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Jul 28 16:12:53 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:12:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I need some of what he's smokin... References: <22852118.1185659780872.JavaMail.root@wmvirt5> Message-ID: <008401c7d164$727d2f50$0401a8c0@midget> Subject: [Spridgets] I need some of what he's smokin... > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1967-AUSTIN-HEALEY-MG-MIDGET-CONVERTIBLE-Needs-Assembly_W0QQitemZ320140406790QQihZ011QQcategoryZ31859QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem The classic "one for the price of ten" opportunity! From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Sat Jul 28 16:22:46 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:22:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] INVENTIONS References: <2ad6c6b10707281422k306ced10p54e46f0060c50da5@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0707281427wbcb5e1dq643be88c58f229cd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <011801c7d165$d3aa3d80$6501a8c0@actualshop> <<...the list software.>> Duh. From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Sat Jul 28 16:31:27 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:31:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] INVENTIONS In-Reply-To: <011801c7d165$d3aa3d80$6501a8c0@actualshop> References: <2ad6c6b10707281422k306ced10p54e46f0060c50da5@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0707281427wbcb5e1dq643be88c58f229cd@mail.gmail.com> <011801c7d165$d3aa3d80$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0707281531r72e7a450x7284980a39bb2b74@mail.gmail.com> You don't know the difference between an uninterruptable power supply unit and a managed multiport router, so duh to you. Mark's software is the stuff. On 7/28/07, WJHS1960 wrote: > <<...the list software.>> > > Duh. > _______________________________________________ -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - Reduced! $875 From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Sat Jul 28 16:44:53 2007 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:44:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] INVENTIONS In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0707281531r72e7a450x7284980a39bb2b74@mail.gmail.com> References: <2ad6c6b10707281422k306ced10p54e46f0060c50da5@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0707281427wbcb5e1dq643be88c58f229cd@mail.gmail.com> <011801c7d165$d3aa3d80$6501a8c0@actualshop> <8a336b9d0707281531r72e7a450x7284980a39bb2b74@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0707281544q581d7fbas77559bb763a35444@mail.gmail.com> Yes, Mark's list software will remove all attachments making this list a safer place for all of us. :-) Meanwhile ... I did a quick search using Google and found the removed attachment on this site with a small blurb about it so you have some guess as to what it is BEFORE opening it if you wish. http://altongansky.typepad.com/imaginationwork/2007/07/serendipity.html Burning saltwater as fuel ... interesting indeed! Links to more info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kanzius From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Sat Jul 28 16:53:03 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:53:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] INVENTIONS References: <2ad6c6b10707281422k306ced10p54e46f0060c50da5@mail.gmail.com><8a336b9d0707281427wbcb5e1dq643be88c58f229cd@mail.gmail.com><011801c7d165$d3aa3d80$6501a8c0@actualshop> <8a336b9d0707281531r72e7a450x7284980a39bb2b74@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <01ee01c7d16a$0e243160$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> Again, duh. Why even use band width?? Listers, NASTY reply was private!! From beatlemikey at yahoo.com Sat Jul 28 16:57:28 2007 From: beatlemikey at yahoo.com (Mike Rivers) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 15:57:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] BusterCluster Anniversary Announcement In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10707281413g50b375f7u3c8e525ec576ce5e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <694956.85352.qm@web56006.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hey guys, Havent been on the list for a while, been busy working. Anyway, I have an idea. What if the So Cal bunch, and whoever else would be interested, get together for a Bugeye/Midget run of sorts, like drive PCH for instance. Maybe that would be fun. Meet at Buster's place and go from there. What do you think? Buster? Mike Rivers 1961 MG Midget 1275 --- WFO Herb wrote: > Thanks for sharing the 'experience' with the rest of > us. > > Even got to hear some original music, right Jim. > > Herb > _______________________________________________ > beatlemikey at yahoo.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Sat Jul 28 17:20:27 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 16:20:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Go Death Trap In-Reply-To: <07e801c7d129$b74f7290$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <426185.50694.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> 4:15 pm PST - death trap fell behind today - scores below lets get out and vote guys. http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx Apocalyptic Rust Rockets 30.7% Death Trap 30% X-Wing Racer 26.3% Big Pig Warriors 10.1% DB5 Devils 2.9% 63AHBJ7 <63AHBJ7 at comcast.net> wrote: DL said: > This was penned for the MGS List but for those of you who wish to further assist: ***************************************************************************** ************ Easier yet David (and being from Chjicago area I CAN say & advocate), after Vote is placed and while reading the bar chart Click on "Tools" and select "Internet Options" The click on "Delete Cookies" When second window pops-up select "OK". Couple seconds and click on "OK" the just hit "refresh" & you will return to Page # 1,and you can Vote AGAIN!!! Nite before last while up for extreme pain & waiting for Vicodin to kick in I brougth the from 34.6% to 40.1% (which of course changed back as other Team votes came in). Anonici ***************************************************************************** ********* http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx a short time ago I used above (=s SIX "clicks") and in 5 mts flat Voted 7 times and raised them .1% _______________________________________________ uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Jul 28 17:16:13 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 16:16:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] BusterCluster Anniversary Announcement In-Reply-To: <694956.85352.qm@web56006.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <694956.85352.qm@web56006.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46ABCE3D.6080208@earthlink.net> Mike Rivers wrote: "What if the So Cal bunch, and whoever else would be interested, get together for a Bugeye/Midget run of sorts, like drive PCH for instance. Meet at Buster's place and go from there." I think it would be a great idea! Cap it all off at our place with a BBQ with dips in the pool and spa. When? Any time. We have Spridget list guests from England coming which would be great to include them. Jim Lodder and his family arrive Monday, July 30 for two weeks, then Alan East-Jones and his wife from September 3 on. Alan is staging the John O'Groat to Land's End run next year. (We have other, non-Spridget guests in-between). Also, if anyone in Southern California, New Jersey, or Connecticut is interested in have a Mini-BusterCluster Reprise at our house, together with BBQ and pool day, let me know. Are any others interested? Buster From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Jul 28 17:57:19 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 18:57:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] BusterCluster Anniversary Announcement References: <694956.85352.qm@web56006.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <46ABCE3D.6080208@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <009701c7d173$09343890$0401a8c0@midget> > Also, if anyone in Southern California, New Jersey, or Connecticut is > interested in have a Mini-BusterCluster Reprise at our house, together > with BBQ and pool day, let me know. > > Are any others interested? No extra charge for hernias? From shelden3 at pldi.net Sat Jul 28 18:24:29 2007 From: shelden3 at pldi.net (Charlie Shelden) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 19:24:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] good advertising MG in OKC Message-ID: <005701c7d176$d40fcd60$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/car/383541061.html Notice the last line above the pics.....this isn't the actual car well you do see the actual rear quarter, but he has a pic of one that his COULD look like if you worked on it. I like that. charlie okc,ok -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1795 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Jul 28 18:39:35 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:39:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Car buffer - no direct Lbc In-Reply-To: <189008.2392.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <189008.2392.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46ABE1C7.2090201@comcast.net> Ron Soave wrote: > Looking for your recommendations for a good car > buffer/polisher. I have a Makita, several years and many cars later it still works fine. Porter-Cable makes a good one too but it (was) a bit heavy. I had one of those but it was already well used when I bought it. When it smoked, I sprung for the Makita and it was noticeably lighter. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Jul 28 18:41:34 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:41:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets....now I'm REALLY getting confused! HAHA In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10707281443k5a81f4c2n352d6830bf8d0e25@mail.gmail.com> References: <016c01c7d096$f98cbb10$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <0fd601c7d099$73c989b0$6401a8c0@Larry> <000301c7d09a$5ac920a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <43840a7e0707271803g611f7321jca86fa8d01692555@mail.gmail.com> <46AAB228.4020505@comcast.net> <2ad6c6b10707281443k5a81f4c2n352d6830bf8d0e25@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46ABE23E.6000309@comcast.net> WFO Herb wrote: > Frank, > > Bet you were one of those that cut the center rear window divider out of > your '63 Vette when the '64s came out, weren't you! Herb, I would NEVER EVER own a GM product but a sawzall to a vette sounds like a good idea ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Jul 28 19:27:06 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 18:27:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Mini-BusterCluster Hernias Message-ID: <380-2200770291276671@earthlink.net> "Also, if anyone in Southern California, New Jersey, or Connecticut is interested in having a Mini-BusterCluster Reprise at our house, together with BBQ and pool day, let me know To which David Lieb wrote "No extra charge for hernias?" Oh, David, those are guaranteed and free! Which side do you prefer? Or do you want to check with Frank and Jim to see which is the most desirable? Buster From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sat Jul 28 21:14:06 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:14:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye And Now A Spridget Message-ID: <1650a3c0ca37c8a1f8a.20070728201406.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Last week I said I passed on the 73 RWA Midget (Spridget?) because I thought the guy wanted too much for all that had to be done to make it a nice driver even. Well, what I did was not even call the guy back after looking at the car. After seeing how much Spridget you could buy for only 6-700 bucks more on Ebay, all I could see was dollar signs leaving my wallet. He was initially firm at $1650 before I contacted him the first time according to Bob in San Diego who spotted the car first. During the first call to this guy he went down to $1400, that's when I thought it was still too much. Mind you, it has a very straight body with absolutely NO rust, but it needs a paint job and a complete interior just to make it a driver. After a week of not answering several calls from him, he called my cell phone today and left a message saying he would take $1100 for it. Here's where I went wrong, I called him back. I said, I still did not want the car at $1100 because of everything it needed (the brakes don't work, but it has a rebuilt engine with 60 PSI oil and a new clutch). He said, so what do I want to pay? This is where I should have hung up, I told him I would trailer it away for $1000 cash. Unfortunately he said yes. So now I own a Sprite and a Spridget. It will probably sit for a while until the BN2 is finished, but I will have it up on my 4 post lift in the garage looming over me saying, "Come on, spend some money on me, I dare you!" Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 73 RWA Midget 56 BN2 From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Jul 28 21:26:55 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 23:26:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye And Now A Spridget In-Reply-To: <1650a3c0ca37c8a1f8a.20070728201406.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <1650a3c0ca37c8a1f8a.20070728201406.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <46AC08FF.9060308@comcast.net> rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: > This is where I > should have hung up, I told him I would trailer it away for $1000 > cash. Unfortunately he said yes. So Mike, give it a quicky paint job, have the seats done locally, a $50 carpet job and a couple hundred for the brakes. Total investment $2000 (including the cost of the car) and flip it for $4000, now you have an extra 2 grand to play with. If it's straight and not rusty, you can repaint it in a couple days, interior takes a weekend, brakes a few night after work. 2 weeks, 2 grand, beer money has to come out of that christian profit ;) So make yourself a grand a week after work. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sat Jul 28 21:37:55 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:37:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye And Now A Spridget In-Reply-To: <46AC08FF.9060308@comcast.net> References: <1650a3c0ca37c8a1f8a.20070728201406.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <46AC08FF.9060308@comcast.net> Message-ID: <21c8ca5aeb5a5475ea2fb2a.20070728203755.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Kinda what I was I thinking. I don't know what you mean by a quicky paint job though. There are no carpets in it now to use as patterns, but that should not be much of a problem. There is only one seat it it that looks like it from a Civic at the moment. So we'll see how cheaply I can get away with this. Mike Frank Clarici > rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: >> This is where I >> should have hung up, I told him I would trailer it away for $1000 >> cash. Unfortunately he said yes. > > So Mike, give it a quicky paint job, have the seats done locally, a $50 > carpet job and a couple hundred for the brakes. > Total investment $2000 (including the cost of the car) and flip it for > $4000, now you have an extra 2 grand to play with. > If it's straight and not rusty, you can repaint it in a couple days, > interior takes a weekend, brakes a few night after work. > 2 weeks, 2 grand, beer money has to come out of that christian profit ;) > So make yourself a grand a week after work. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Jul 28 21:58:21 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 22:58:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets? In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10707281454y52895f61x15108fe5cfda8f9a@mail.gmail.com> References: <380-22007762805615390@earthlink.net> <2ad6c6b10707281454y52895f61x15108fe5cfda8f9a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0707282058t50b90596j275eb38ac7c232e5@mail.gmail.com> Pointless nomenclature discussion...NEW pointless nomenclature discussion.... ;-) Cheers!! Jim - 68 somkindacar in Dodge City On 7/28/07, WFO Herb wrote: > Perhaps they should be referred to as "New Sprite". > > Mini...New MINI > > Beetle...New Beetle > > Others??? > > > On 7/27/07, Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > > > > Perhaps I can put all of this questioning in perspective, for I was around > > when the news came out that Donald Healey had announced a successor to the > > Austin-Healey Sprite that for some still unknown reason he was going to call > > the Sprite Mark II. > > I can tell you that all of the Sprite owners I knew were aghast and > > appalled by the "new" apparition. First, we felt it was ridiculous it was > > for it to be called a Sprite "Mark II" when there had never been a Mark > > I! Beyond that, the looks of the new design were so put-offish. It didn't > > even look like a REAL Sprite. And that was all that Sprites were generally > > known by "in the beginning". No "Bugeye", no "Frogeye", they were simply > > Sprites. > > So what did we call those new things? "Wannabe Sprites". So to me, the > > first was was the only true Sprite, although we did call the newer ones the > > "new Sprites" to make a distinction, and when MG was thrown into the mix, we > > still called each either a new Sprite or a Midget. It would be years before > > I heard the term "Spridgets". (I often wonder who first coined the word.) > > Now that is the unvarnished truth. From my Mesozoic perspective. > > Buster > > _______________________________________________ > > froggi60 at gmail.com > > > > Edit your replies > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Jul 28 22:13:22 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 23:13:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] BusterCluster Anniversary Announcement In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10707281413g50b375f7u3c8e525ec576ce5e@mail.gmail.com> References: <380-22007762864546937@earthlink.net> <2ad6c6b10707281413g50b375f7u3c8e525ec576ce5e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0707282113h6a6e90edwfbc009c2e72c3b10@mail.gmail.com> Thanks to Ed for putting this up! When I went to the site, it insisted I download *Napster* to play the music/video so I'm only guessing it's the one I put together on Youtube last year. I'm not sure about Napster. Can I get a Linux version of the software? I don't wanna screw up the wife's WindowsXP partition. Experience tells me that you are at greater risk of viruses etc when using popular (in vogue!) software.. Anyway, thanks again to Ed and the music is "Faded Love" with all parts played by yours truly. I assure you my fiddle playing has improved since it was recorded 3 years ago. Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City On 7/28/07, WFO Herb wrote: > Thanks for sharing the 'experience' with the rest of us. > > Even got to hear some original music, right Jim. > > Herb > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From millerls at ado13.com Sat Jul 28 22:22:59 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 21:22:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] BusterCluster Anniversary Announcement References: <694956.85352.qm@web56006.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <023c01c7d198$27e85440$d280bc43@HP> Keep us northern CA guys informed and maybe we can join in somewhere along the PCH. Larry Miller ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Rivers" To: Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BusterCluster Anniversary Announcement > Hey guys, > > Havent been on the list for a while, been busy > working. Anyway, I have an idea. What if the So Cal > bunch, and whoever else would be interested, get > together for a Bugeye/Midget run of sorts, like drive > PCH for instance. Maybe that would be fun. Meet at > Buster's place and go from there. > > What do you think? Buster? > > Mike Rivers > 1961 MG Midget 1275 From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Jul 28 22:32:33 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 23:32:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye And Now A Spridget In-Reply-To: <46AC08FF.9060308@comcast.net> References: <1650a3c0ca37c8a1f8a.20070728201406.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <46AC08FF.9060308@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0707282132o73927203n54f7d8c3e8961b3b@mail.gmail.com> Frank, Don't forget... He has a Harley to feed also.... ;-) Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City On 7/28/07, Frank Clarici wrote: > rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: > > This is where I > > should have hung up, I told him I would trailer it away for $1000 > > cash. Unfortunately he said yes. > > So Mike, give it a quicky paint job, have the seats done locally, a $50 > carpet job and a couple hundred for the brakes. > Total investment $2000 (including the cost of the car) and flip it for > $4000, now you have an extra 2 grand to play with. > If it's straight and not rusty, you can repaint it in a couple days, > interior takes a weekend, brakes a few night after work. > 2 weeks, 2 grand, beer money has to come out of that christian profit ;) > So make yourself a grand a week after work. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Jul 28 22:36:27 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 23:36:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Mini-BusterCluster Hernias In-Reply-To: <380-2200770291276671@earthlink.net> References: <380-2200770291276671@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0707282136v4285c5f4xdca862cd1d471911@mail.gmail.com> I'm miffed! Guess nobody from "flyover land" is welcome!! Very well then. A hernia upon each of you!! Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City On 7/28/07, Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > "Also, if anyone in Southern California, New Jersey, or Connecticut is > interested in having a Mini-BusterCluster Reprise at our house, together > with BBQ and pool day, let me know > > To which David Lieb wrote "No extra charge for hernias?" > > Oh, David, those are guaranteed and free! Which side do you prefer? Or do > you want to check with Frank and Jim to see which is the most desirable? > > Buster > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sat Jul 28 22:44:12 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 21:44:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye And Now A Spridget In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0707282132o73927203n54f7d8c3e8961b3b@mail.gmail.com> References: <1650a3c0ca37c8a1f8a.20070728201406.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <46AC08FF.9060308@comcast.net> <43840a7e0707282132o73927203n54f7d8c3e8961b3b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8c40a17970a15ea0ac60a.20070728214412.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> At least the Harley does not need any work. Well, the 10,000 mile service is coming up and that costs more than your Honda Civic intermediate service! Heck, I'm also in the middle of a BN2 restoration to 100M specs. What the Hell is wrong with me? Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 73 RWA Midget (Why?) 56 BN2 02 Heritage Springer Harley Davidson 04 Honda Accord Coupe 94 Honda Civic Coupe 00 Ford F150 Not just a Harley to feed! Jim Johnson > Frank, > > Don't forget... He has a Harley to feed also.... ;-) > > Cheers!! > Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City > > On 7/28/07, Frank Clarici wrote: >> rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: >> > This is where I >> > should have hung up, I told him I would trailer it away for $1000 >> > cash. Unfortunately he said yes. >> >> So Mike, give it a quicky paint job, have the seats done locally, a $50 >> carpet job and a couple hundred for the brakes. >> Total investment $2000 (including the cost of the car) and flip it for >> $4000, now you have an extra 2 grand to play with. >> If it's straight and not rusty, you can repaint it in a couple days, >> interior takes a weekend, brakes a few night after work. >> 2 weeks, 2 grand, beer money has to come out of that christian profit ;) >> So make yourself a grand a week after work. >> >> -- >> Frank Clarici >> Toms River, NJ >> _______________________________________________ >> bmwwxman at gmail.com > -- > The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to > fill the world with fools. > -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From herby at herbytoys.com Sat Jul 28 23:18:09 2007 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 22:18:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye And Now A Spridget In-Reply-To: <8c40a17970a15ea0ac60a.20070728214412.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <002301c7d19f$dc052b40$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> Hey Mike, you headin' to Strurgis? One of my coworkers is going out next week. His first time! He's been a Harley owner/rider for years but never made it until now. Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+herby=herbytoys.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+herby=herbytoys.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 9:44 PM To: Jim Johnson Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye And Now A Spridget At least the Harley does not need any work. Well, the 10,000 mile service is coming up and that costs more than your Honda Civic intermediate service! Heck, I'm also in the middle of a BN2 restoration to 100M specs. What the Hell is wrong with me? Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 73 RWA Midget (Why?) 56 BN2 02 Heritage Springer Harley Davidson 04 Honda Accord Coupe 94 Honda Civic Coupe 00 Ford F150 Not just a Harley to feed! Jim Johnson > Frank, > > Don't forget... He has a Harley to feed also.... ;-) > > Cheers!! > Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City > > On 7/28/07, Frank Clarici wrote: >> rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: >> > This is where I >> > should have hung up, I told him I would trailer it away for $1000 >> > cash. Unfortunately he said yes. >> >> So Mike, give it a quicky paint job, have the seats done locally, a $50 >> carpet job and a couple hundred for the brakes. >> Total investment $2000 (including the cost of the car) and flip it for >> $4000, now you have an extra 2 grand to play with. >> If it's straight and not rusty, you can repaint it in a couple days, >> interior takes a weekend, brakes a few night after work. >> 2 weeks, 2 grand, beer money has to come out of that christian profit ;) >> So make yourself a grand a week after work. >> >> -- >> Frank Clarici >> Toms River, NJ >> _______________________________________________ From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Jul 28 23:33:49 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 22:33:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Mini-BusterCluster Hernias Message-ID: <380-22007702953349843@earthlink.net> Jim Johnson wrote: "I'm miffed! Guess nobody from "flyover land" is welcome!! Very well then. A hernia upon each of you!!" Oh, no, Jim! Not unwelcome, but assumed you knew everyone in Middle America would be invited since you were between Anaheim and Connecticut/Florida/New Joisy. Forgiven? Buste From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sun Jul 29 00:02:43 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 23:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye And Now A Spridget In-Reply-To: <002301c7d19f$dc052b40$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> References: <8c40a17970a15ea0ac60a.20070728214412.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <002301c7d19f$dc052b40$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> Message-ID: <16d8a3d7aa391ca204a.20070728230243.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> I've never been to Sturgis and had planned to go this year. That's why my vacation was scheduled starting the 30th this month. I decided not to go because I need to do a lot of stuff around the house that includes cleaning out the garage because the BN2 body is coming back from the painter in a few weeks. Right now I have no room for a BN2 body AND the Midget I just bought. I have a 4 post lift and I will stack the Spridgets, but the other side of my 2 car garage is packed with BN2 suspension and, interior, parts, parts and more parts. Plus the fact I have plenty of other stuff that has accumulated over the last 19 years I have lived here that just needs to go to the dump. You know, the stuff you say you will need someday, but it never gets touched again. Out it goes. My Bugeye needs a lot of work now too. I'll be plenty busy. From the way it looks, I may be glad to get back to work just for a rest. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 73 RWA Midget 56 BN2 02 Hertiage Springer Harley Davidson 04 Honda Accord Coupe 94 Honda Civic Coupe 00 Ford F150 Herby > Hey Mike, you headin' to Strurgis? One of my coworkers is going out next > week. His first time! He's been a Harley owner/rider for years but never > made it until now. > > Herby > 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) > 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) > 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) > herby at herbytoys.com > www.herbytoys.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+herby=herbytoys.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+herby=herbytoys.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > rrengineer at dslextreme.com > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 9:44 PM > To: Jim Johnson > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye And Now A Spridget > > At least the Harley does not need any work. Well, the 10,000 mile service > is coming up and that costs more than your Honda Civic intermediate > service! Heck, I'm also in the middle of a BN2 restoration to 100M specs. > What the Hell is wrong with me? > > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 73 RWA Midget (Why?) > 56 BN2 > 02 Heritage Springer Harley Davidson > 04 Honda Accord Coupe > 94 Honda Civic Coupe > 00 Ford F150 > > Not just a Harley to feed! > > > Jim Johnson >> Frank, >> >> Don't forget... He has a Harley to feed also.... ;-) >> >> Cheers!! >> Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City >> >> On 7/28/07, Frank Clarici wrote: >>> rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: >>> > This is where I >>> > should have hung up, I told him I would trailer it away for $1000 >>> > cash. Unfortunately he said yes. >>> >>> So Mike, give it a quicky paint job, have the seats done locally, a $50 >>> carpet job and a couple hundred for the brakes. >>> Total investment $2000 (including the cost of the car) and flip it for >>> $4000, now you have an extra 2 grand to play with. >>> If it's straight and not rusty, you can repaint it in a couple days, >>> interior takes a weekend, brakes a few night after work. >>> 2 weeks, 2 grand, beer money has to come out of that christian profit >>> ;) >>> So make yourself a grand a week after work. >>> >>> -- >>> Frank Clarici >>> Toms River, NJ >>> _______________________________________________ From herby at herbytoys.com Sun Jul 29 00:25:54 2007 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 23:25:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye And Now A Spridget In-Reply-To: <16d8a3d7aa391ca204a.20070728230243.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <002f01c7d1a9$51c6a6c0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> I know the feeling. I have Dakota parts, Sprite parts and car audio stuff in boxes in the garage waiting for install. And that doesn't count "honey do's"! I'm digging in for the ribcase install on my Sprite so I can make it to Palo Alto in September. I know, in Frank time that's eons but I've got too many other projects! Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com I've never been to Sturgis and had planned to go this year. That's why my vacation was scheduled starting the 30th this month. I decided not to go because I need to do a lot of stuff around the house that includes cleaning out the garage because the BN2 body is coming back from the painter in a few weeks. Right now I have no room for a BN2 body AND the Midget I just bought. I have a 4 post lift and I will stack the Spridgets, but the other side of my 2 car garage is packed with BN2 suspension and, interior, parts, parts and more parts. Plus the fact I have plenty of other stuff that has accumulated over the last 19 years I have lived here that just needs to go to the dump. You know, the stuff you say you will need someday, but it never gets touched again. Out it goes. My Bugeye needs a lot of work now too. I'll be plenty busy. From the way it looks, I may be glad to get back to work just for a rest. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 73 RWA Midget 56 BN2 02 Hertiage Springer Harley Davidson 04 Honda Accord Coupe 94 Honda Civic Coupe 00 Ford F150 Herby > Hey Mike, you headin' to Strurgis? One of my coworkers is going out next > week. His first time! He's been a Harley owner/rider for years but never > made it until now. From hal at katemuir.com Sun Jul 29 00:52:55 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 23:52:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] I need some of what he's smokin... In-Reply-To: <22852118.1185659780872.JavaMail.root@wmvirt5> Message-ID: Jay, This isn't you is it? Hal -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 2:56 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] I need some of what he's smokin... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1967-AUSTIN-HEALEY-MG-MIDGET-CONVERTIBLE-Need s-Assembly_W0QQitemZ320140406790QQihZ011QQcategoryZ31859QQssPageNameZWDVWQQr dZ1QQcmdZViewItem _______________________________________________ From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Sun Jul 29 01:40:52 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 00:40:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Rotary Midget Message-ID: <440833.25668.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> http://www.rxtuner.com/farticles/RotaryMGMidget.pdf --------------------------------- Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. From type79 at ix.netcom.com Sun Jul 29 03:46:50 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 05:46:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] I need some of what he's smokin... Message-ID: <25781287.1185702410454.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hal, Thanks for thinking of me, but no, that's not me. This fellow lives in SW CT where $3,500 is mere pocket change and where Ferrari's and Porsche's are as common as popcorn. I live in Central CT where few people have a million dollar wall surrounding their property and people still know the value of a car missing the front end and with the rear sheet-metal hacked-off. I've sent similar condition cars to the crusher or as Frank will attest, sold them for $250. jay fishbein wallingford, ct "Curiosity killed the cat, but for a while I was a suspect." Steven Wright -----Original Message----- >From: Hal Faulkner >Sent: Jul 29, 2007 2:52 AM >To: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com, Spridgets >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I need some of what he's smokin... > >Jay, >This isn't you is it? >Hal From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Sun Jul 29 04:34:07 2007 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 06:34:07 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] VOTE - as many times as you can Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070729063119.0467d140@littlebitcountry.com> Apocalyptic Rust Rockets 34.6% Death Trap 28.8% X-Wing Racer 24.5% Big Pig Warriors 9.4% DB5 Devils 2.7% Get out and vote, the Death Trap has fallen way behind. http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx Dave From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Jul 29 06:57:13 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 12:57:13 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye And Now A Spridget Message-ID: MAACO :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From nonrunningmgb at yahoo.com Sun Jul 29 07:11:08 2007 From: nonrunningmgb at yahoo.com (John Mac) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 06:11:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone try this (LBC Content)? In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070729063119.0467d140@littlebitcountry.com> Message-ID: <246752.58666.qm@web56115.mail.re3.yahoo.com> http://www.mgaguru.com/mgtech/suspensn/fs122.htm Looks like a bunch of bits from Pep Boys and McMaster Car. John MacDonald Bedford, NH Running Topless MGB! :) 59 Sprite :( ____________________________________________________________________________________ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting From cooper6 at swbell.net Sun Jul 29 07:22:51 2007 From: cooper6 at swbell.net (Martin) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 08:22:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone try this (LBC Content)? In-Reply-To: <246752.58666.qm@web56115.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070729063119.0467d140@littlebitcountry.com> <246752.58666.qm@web56115.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005601c7d1e3$925d06e0$6464fea9@cooper> Peter C, What are you charging for the modifications? Martin Cooper -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+cooper6=swbell.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+cooper6=swbell.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Mac Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 8:11 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone try this (LBC Content)? http://www.mgaguru.com/mgtech/suspensn/fs122.htm Looks like a bunch of bits from Pep Boys and McMaster Car. John MacDonald Bedford, NH Running Topless MGB! :) 59 Sprite :( ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting _______________________________________________ cooper6 at swbell.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Jul 29 07:25:17 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 08:25:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone try this (LBC Content)? References: <246752.58666.qm@web56115.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00cd01c7d1e3$e7bf6510$0401a8c0@midget> > http://www.mgaguru.com/mgtech/suspensn/fs122.htm > Looks like a bunch of bits from Pep Boys and McMaster > Car. Got the full set of four of these on my Midget. They are not perfect, but it certainly is nice to be able to dial in a bit more (or less) oversteer between autocross runs. You do want to be sure to tighten up the set-screw on the adjustment knob so that they don't keep getting progressively softer on you. A very sweet bit of kit and the fact that they have been rebuilt by PPP makes them even better. David Lieb From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 29 07:43:18 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 08:43:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - EAA Air Show Message-ID: <11a701c7d1e6$6ccbfe60$6401a8c0@Larry> Gents, the Experimental Aircraft Association, which is located here in Oshkosh, WI, is finishing up their annual convention today. Yesterday I was at my brother's house on the edge of the airport to watch the air show from his annual hangar party. I got a couple photos of some of the planes. Some didn't come out worth a darn because the planes are so close and move unbelievably fast. I did get a good shot of an F-22 Raptor. There was a B-1 Bomber that made a few passes, but he was too close and so fast that I couldn't get a decent shot. Man, that thing is impressive. Here is a shot of the F-22 and another of a plane my brother just finished building. His is a tiny 2 seater experimental sport plane. Cool little thing with a top speed of 197 MPH. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ladaniels/ Every year he does this party at his hangar in his back yard. I didn't think of it in time to send out an invitation, but next year all are welcome. It is quite a show. Larry Daniels From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 29 07:44:07 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 06:44:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone try this (LBC Content)? In-Reply-To: <246752.58666.qm@web56115.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <174949.18626.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- John Mac wrote: > http://www.mgaguru.com/mgtech/suspensn/fs122.htm > Looks like a bunch of bits from Pep Boys and > McMaster > Car. Hardly. You need those. The SCCA limited prep guys will tell you the same thing. Order from Peter C., peter at nosimport.com. NFI, although I was the test mule on the race track. Ron Soave "Take it, Dee Dee" - http://youtube.com/watch?v=9BYOulnVXAE From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Sun Jul 29 07:42:50 2007 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 9:42:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone try this (LBC Content)? Message-ID: <16188594.1185716570244.JavaMail.root@wmvirt99> ---- Ron Soave wrote: I was the test mule on the race track. Odd, one would have thought that Peter C. would have gotten more and better test data if he had used your CAR for the test mule... Ed From pilotrob at msn.com Sun Jul 29 07:49:12 2007 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 13:49:12 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... No LBC - EAA Air Show Message-ID: Not a good day for Oskosh, airshows and gnerally not for pilots yesterday. Geeze, when it rains, it pours. :( CapBob From pilotrob at msn.com Sun Jul 29 07:53:02 2007 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 13:53:02 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... No LBC - EAA Air Show Message-ID: "Cool little thing" Yes....it is, Larry. Nice color, too! CapBob From pilotrob at msn.com Sun Jul 29 08:05:11 2007 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 14:05:11 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] [9issa] INVENTIONS Message-ID: Wow! 1500 degrees is warmer than the normal gasoline-fired combustion process, not counting ceramic structure. Wouldn't it be cool to have the salt water combustion process help solve our oil crunch as it reduces the chances of global warming while contributing to a cure for cancer(s). Win, win, win situation! :) CapBob From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 29 08:07:05 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 09:07:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... No LBC - EAA Air Show References: Message-ID: <11cf01c7d1e9$bf7e5060$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert E. Shlafer" To: ; "Spridgets List" Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... No LBC - EAA Air Show Not a good day for Oskosh, airshows and gnerally not for pilots yesterday. Geeze, when it rains, it pours. :( CapBob =============================== For those who don't know what Cap'n Bob was talking about, every year we lose at least one airplane coming to the show, at the show or going home. So far this year we lost one coming to the show and on Friday two P-51 Mustangs touched wings on landing from their show routine with the Warbirds. One of them flipped over and went up in flames. Unfortunately, with airplanes, when you lose the plane, you usually lose the pilot as well. http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/07/28/airshow.roundup.ap/index.html The color on my brother's plane is "Plum Crazy". Those who grew up in the 60's and 70's, as we did, will remember the color from the Mopar products (Cudas, Challengers, etc.) of the time. Larry Daniels From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jul 29 08:09:11 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 10:09:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I need some of what he's smokin... In-Reply-To: <25781287.1185702410454.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <25781287.1185702410454.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <46AC9F87.80405@comcast.net> type79 at ix.netcom.com wrote: > I've sent similar condition cars to the crusher or as Frank will attest, sold them for $250. I thought you sold that 69 for $200. It is BTW still being restored. Not by me but by a mutual friend of the guy who bought it. He did however use that 1275 in his 66 Sprite. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From pilotrob at msn.com Sun Jul 29 08:21:22 2007 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 14:21:22 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... No LBC - EAA Air Show Message-ID: Ah...."Mopar plum"....nice choice of color. :) Larry...do you know how much HP your bro's aircraft has? Just curious considering nearly 200mph top speed. CapBob From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 29 08:36:05 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 07:36:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone try this (LBC Content)? In-Reply-To: <16188594.1185716570244.JavaMail.root@wmvirt99> Message-ID: <482588.36022.qm@web30514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com wrote: > ---- Ron Soave wrote: > I was the test mule on the race track. > > Odd, one would have thought that Peter C. would have > gotten more and better test data if he had used your > CAR for the test mule... Not really. The car handles fine, whereas I had some over-steer and was bottoming out in places. Ron Soave "Take it, Dee Dee" - http://youtube.com/watch?v=9BYOulnVXAE ____________________________________________________________________________________ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow From cmlove at knology.net Sun Jul 29 10:11:17 2007 From: cmlove at knology.net (Monty Love) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 11:11:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Lower Door Hinges--Midget Message-ID: <001101c7d1fb$1865f500$6601a8c0@LoveLaptop> Hello list; I am normally a listener on the list, but I need some help. I am trying to replace the door hinges on both sides of the A pillars on my '73 midget. I have removed the old hinges and have the replacement parts and a few questions. The replacement hinges seem to fit well, but the door light switch box seems to interfere with the top of the hinge replacement box. It is a triangle that is at a 90 degree angle to the A post and next to the light swich box. Also, the replacement skin is a question also. I am only trying to replace the lower skin and hinge. So, I have only removed the lower skin. The upper skin wraps around the A post. Do I have to cut off the upper A pillar enough to get the new skin into place? If you need I can send pictures to show what I have. It is hard to explain in text. Thanks for any help you can give. Monty Love '73 in pieces Huntsville, Alabama From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Sun Jul 29 10:44:16 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 09:44:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] VOTE - as many times as you can In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070729063119.0467d140@littlebitcountry.com> Message-ID: <573173.52170.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> i voted 12 times - It only moved point 1% ( .1% ) up. Dave Yealy wrote: Apocalyptic Rust Rockets 34.6% Death Trap 28.8% X-Wing Racer 24.5% Big Pig Warriors 9.4% DB5 Devils 2.7% Get out and vote, the Death Trap has fallen way behind. http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx Dave _______________________________________________ uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search. From dmg at bossig.com Sun Jul 29 11:03:33 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 10:03:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] '65 dashboard drawing needed... Message-ID: <46AC65F5.7304.9A1FB0@dmg.bossig.com> Does anybody have a drawing for a '65 Sprite dashboard from the rear?? I need to see where the wires and connectors go. I do have a vehicle drawing but it doesn't show me the layout and physical connections... Anyone?? - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Sun Jul 29 11:06:32 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 10:06:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye And Now A Spridget In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <573772.90315.qm@web38912.mail.mud.yahoo.com> T J - Mexico - They do a better job and are cheaper. "Robert E. Shlafer" wrote: MAACO :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) _______________________________________________ uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. From dmg at bossig.com Sun Jul 29 11:08:46 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 10:08:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] '65 dashboard draing needed Message-ID: <46AC672E.8321.9EE35A@dmg.bossig.com> I should have said I have a vehicle wiring diagram... All I have is a drawing of the rear of a dashboard from a 1500 Spridget and it's not the same... TIA - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From type79 at ix.netcom.com Sun Jul 29 11:11:39 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 13:11:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] I need some of what he's smokin... Message-ID: <18020305.1185729099149.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Maybe it was $200. In reality it was actually in much BETTER condition than the one on ebay from the gold coast of CT. I think i paid $350.00 for that car. I wanted it for hardtop to use on my '74. So now I have a hardtop for my '74. Big deal. :-/ I also have a hardtop for my Innocenti Spider. Incredibly difficult things to store. At least the one for the '74 is unrestored so I don't have to worry about it. The top hasn't been up on the '74 in about 3 years. The only good hardtops are those that don't come off. jay fishbein wallingford, ct "I bet the worst part about dying is the part where your whole life passes before you." Jane Wagner -----Original Message----- >From: Frank Clarici >Sent: Jul 29, 2007 10:09 AM >To: type79 at ix.netcom.com >Cc: Spridgets >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I need some of what he's smokin... > >type79 at ix.netcom.com wrote: > >> I've sent similar condition cars to the crusher or as Frank will attest, sold them for $250. > >I thought you sold that 69 for $200. >It is BTW still being restored. Not by me but by a mutual friend of the >guy who bought it. He did however use that 1275 in his 66 Sprite. >-- >Frank Clarici >Toms River, NJ From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Jul 29 11:21:44 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 12:21:44 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spridgets] I need some of what he's smokin... In-Reply-To: <18020305.1185729099149.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink .net> References: <18020305.1185729099149.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <3746.216.183.226.225.1185729704.squirrel@www.thicko.com> Funny, I've always loved Sprite with hardtops... the hardtops set them apart from the usual. In fact, it wasa red Bugeye with a factory hardtop, maybe owned by he that shall not be named that captured my interest. Sitting there with matching red top and side curtains, looking almost like 'chop top", I thought it was cool, and set out to gather hardtops. I have 2 factory BMC bugeye hardtops. (I'd love to have the Warwick version) I have an Ashley "bubble top" Bugeye fastback hardtop. I have a "swoopy" Ashley? Bugeye fastback hardtop I have a MKII factory hardtop.(love to have the Warwick MKII top as well) I have an Ashley MK fastback hardtop. I have 2 BMC factory MKIII hardtops. I have a Universal Laminations 100-4 hardtop. I have an aftermarket (can't remember the manufacturer) BN6 hardtop. I guess you can say I like hardtops on soft top cars. Storage is easier when you have cars to put them on. ;) > Maybe it was $200. In reality it was actually in much BETTER condition > than the one on ebay from the gold coast of CT. > > I think i paid $350.00 for that car. I wanted it for hardtop to use on my > '74. So now I have a hardtop for my '74. Big deal. :-/ I also have a > hardtop for my Innocenti Spider. Incredibly difficult things to store. At > least the one for the '74 is unrestored so I don't have to worry about it. > The top hasn't been up on the '74 in about 3 years. > > The only good hardtops are those that don't come off. > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct From b-evans at earthlink.net Sun Jul 29 11:20:26 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 10:20:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye And Now A Spridget Message-ID: <380-220077029172026625@earthlink.net> uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com wrote: "T J - Mexico - They do a better job and are cheaper." I used to take my cars down there to be re-upholstered. But those were the good old days. Not any more, Vigil. They all moved up into Southern California and re-opened their shops up here. I don't think you can find an upholstery shop in Orange County that isn't a Mexican, AND charge U.S. prices. Ask a man who found out the hard way. Buster From dmeadow at juno.com Sun Jul 29 11:38:44 2007 From: dmeadow at juno.com (dmeadow at juno.com) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 12:38:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Gearshift lever needed Message-ID: <20070729.123844.612.0.dmeadow@juno.com> I need an early gearshift lever (one without the big bushing) for a later ribcase transmission. Would be glad to swap one with a bushing for one without. I'm trying to install a reverse lockout device for one of the racecars and the big bushing keeps smacking into it. Thanks! David Littlefield From abcoz at hky.com Sun Jul 29 11:52:39 2007 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 13:52:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Lower Door Hinges--Midget In-Reply-To: <001101c7d1fb$1865f500$6601a8c0@LoveLaptop> Message-ID: <013b01c7d209$41600960$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Monty, If I understand, correctly, your description; you are actually replacing the lower hinge mounting section of the A post/door post. The lower hinges are pretty robust items, and can usually be rehabilitated with a good immersion (of a few days duration)in some Kroil (or some other good penetrant). Having done more than a couple of these things, I have to ask you two questions: 1.) Where did that replacement part come from? 2.) How are you determining precisely where to mount it? If it isn't an OE, or BL Heritage part, I wouldn't recommend using it. This is an area that'll stick out like the proverbial sore thumb if you don't get it right. Without going into excruciating detail, here, let me suggest that you MUST fit that piece with the door in place, properly closed & aligned, and the repair piece bolted to the hinge itself. Obviously, the outer skin should not be in place when you install the inner door post (hinge mounting section), if you want to get it welded in correctly and securely. And, yes, the outer skin should wrap around the inner piece the same way it does on the upper section. I find that I usually "splice" the outer section in about and inch or two above the new inner section, to allow better access for fitting and welding. Just take your time, and think it through, carefully, so that you can avoid "painting yourself into a corner" so to speak. Lots of trial fitting, careful trimming, re-fitting, hammer & dolly, etc. will be needed to get it just right. It's worth the effort, I can assure you. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Monty Love Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 11:11 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Lower Door Hinges--Midget Hello list; I am normally a listener on the list, but I need some help. I am trying to replace the door hinges on both sides of the A pillars on my '73 midget. I have removed the old hinges and have the replacement parts and a few questions. The replacement hinges seem to fit well, but the door light switch box seems to interfere with the top of the hinge replacement box. It is a triangle that is at a 90 degree angle to the A post and next to the light swich box. Also, the replacement skin is a question also. I am only trying to replace the lower skin and hinge. So, I have only removed the lower skin. The upper skin wraps around the A post. Do I have to cut off the upper A pillar enough to get the new skin into place? If you need I can send pictures to show what I have. It is hard to explain in text. Thanks for any help you can give. Monty Love '73 in pieces Huntsville, Alabama From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 29 12:19:52 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 13:19:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... No LBC - EAA Air Show References: Message-ID: <120d01c7d20d$0fe25f10$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert E. Shlafer" To: ; "Spridgets List" Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... No LBC - EAA Air Show Ah...."Mopar plum"....nice choice of color. :) Larry...do you know how much HP your bro's aircraft has? Just curious considering nearly 200mph top speed. CapBob _______________________________________________ He has an Australian-made Jabiru in there. It's an air-cooled flat 6. I may be a liar, but I think he said it was 120 HP. The reason it is so fast is that it is very light (600-700 lb. range) and very small, so it doesn't punch a very big hole thru the air. He has had it up to 185 MPH with a good amount of throttle left. The engineers said to keep it below 197 MPH. I would tend to do what they say knowing what happens when one breaks up in mid-air. Although it would be tough to not crack that 200 MPH milestone just once. (There must be a little fudge factor in there, isn't there?) Larry Daniels From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Jul 29 13:11:10 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 12:11:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye And Now A Spridget In-Reply-To: <380-220077029172026625@earthlink.net> Message-ID: > you can find an upholstery shop in Orange County that isn't a Mexican, AND > charge U.S. prices. But they still don't understand English. What's Spanish for " Don't make it look modern and/or German"? BZ From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Sun Jul 29 13:18:59 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 14:18:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] quick headlight question In-Reply-To: References: <380-220077029172026625@earthlink.net> Message-ID: quick question for the collective brain- Will the headlight rings and assemblies from a '75 midget fit a '66 sprite? Anyone need parts from a trashed 75? what's left of it is returning back to the earth tomorrow. Chris 66MKIII Milwaukee/Brookfield, WI From abcoz at hky.com Sun Jul 29 14:31:14 2007 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 16:31:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] quick headlight question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <015601c7d21f$69b90220$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Chris, Save every little bit you can from that '75, including every stinking fastener, electrical component, wiring harness/scrap/bit, hardware items.....just everything you can salvage. The little bits and pieces can (for the most part) be reconditioned and re-used on a future project, and they're of FAR better quality than just about anything you can find on the market, today. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of cmanuel at wi.rr.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 2:19 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] quick headlight question Anyone need parts from a trashed 75? what's left of it is returning back to the earth tomorrow. Chris 66MKIII Milwaukee/Brookfield, WI From lists at woozy.com Sun Jul 29 14:47:50 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 16:47:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Gearbox Oil Message-ID: <46ACFCF6.5040801@woozy.com> Hi, What it the correct gearbox oil? My Bentley book says regular motor oil but I think I've seen 75w - 90w hypoid gear oil listed as the correct oil elsewhere. Thanks, Robert From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 29 14:53:00 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 13:53:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Gearbox Oil In-Reply-To: <46ACFCF6.5040801@woozy.com> Message-ID: <404947.63375.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Nope. Use regular motor oil. DO NOT use hypoid gear oil. --- Robert Weeks wrote: > Hi, > > What it the correct gearbox oil? My Bentley book > says regular motor oil > but I think I've seen 75w - 90w hypoid gear oil > listed as the correct > oil elsewhere. > > Thanks, ____________________________________________________________________________________ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting From abcoz at hky.com Sun Jul 29 14:55:22 2007 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 16:55:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Gearbox Oil In-Reply-To: <404947.63375.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <015701c7d222$c7e8eb00$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Ron is correct, but, back in the 60s and 70s, my buddies racing Spridgets used 90 wt. gear lube in their rib-case gearboxes, with excellent results. My "buddies" included the H Production lap record holder (the record stood for something over 5 or 6 years), and future F Production nat'l champion Bob Criss, among others. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 3:53 PM To: Robert Weeks; Spridget Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gearbox Oil Nope. Use regular motor oil. DO NOT use hypoid gear oil. --- Robert Weeks wrote: > Hi, > > What it the correct gearbox oil? My Bentley book > says regular motor oil > but I think I've seen 75w - 90w hypoid gear oil > listed as the correct > oil elsewhere. > > Thanks, From cmlove at knology.net Sun Jul 29 15:09:40 2007 From: cmlove at knology.net (Monty Love) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 16:09:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Door Switch question... Message-ID: <000001c7d224$c7c328a0$6601a8c0@LoveLaptop> I am wondering if I should put the door switch bracket back on the A pillar or just leave it off. I don't have a replacement for the switch and was wondering if anyone even uses them anymore. I mean, what does everyone use to light the interior when they open the door? Just wondering.. Thanks, Monty '73 RWA in Pieces.. Huntsville, AL. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jul 29 15:38:02 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 16:38:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Mini-BusterCluster Hernias In-Reply-To: <380-22007702953349843@earthlink.net> References: <380-22007702953349843@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0707291438q11caad3erbf2a228405831836@mail.gmail.com> Oh. Okay. Just this once... ;-) Cheers! Jim - 68 Midget somewhere between the two coasts..... On 7/29/07, Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > > Jim Johnson wrote: "I'm miffed! Guess nobody from "flyover land" is > welcome!! Very well then. A hernia upon each of you!!" > > Oh, no, Jim! Not unwelcome, but assumed you knew everyone in Middle > America would be invited since you were between Anaheim and > Connecticut/Florida/New Joisy. > > Forgiven? > > Buste > > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jul 29 15:51:12 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 16:51:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye And Now A Spridget In-Reply-To: References: <380-220077029172026625@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0707291451k10cb6e64ib88acc0398fae63a@mail.gmail.com> Billy, The Spanish for that is: "?Cuanto dinero usted tiene?" :-) Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget somewhere out in the boonies... On 7/29/07, Billy Zoom wrote: > > you can find an upholstery shop in Orange County that isn't a Mexican, AND > > charge U.S. prices. > But they still don't understand English. What's Spanish for " Don't make it > look modern and/or German"? > BZ > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Sun Jul 29 16:18:37 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 17:18:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] quick headlight question In-Reply-To: <015601c7d21f$69b90220$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <200707292215.l6TMEueT017686@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> OK, back from the "inspection". Comic relief for me after work at least... I think I found a car Frank wouldn't touch. This thing must have had one last beat mission in its life back in '87 if I trust the license plate stickers. I have never seen bent steel rims and a dented gas tank like that. Lots of metal missing, enough in the front where the M-I-D-G-E-T letters appear to hold parts together, and one side only spells idget. I sat in the seat and made it recline in a way that it was not meant to. Looking underneath, there was none really to speak of. The seller was intrigued by 3 wipers. He never drove it, just pushed it from a neighbors. Transmission in the trunk. 1500 block with no carbs leaning against the passenger door. I told him I wanted the alternator and the headlights. He pulled out a smog pump and the actual lamps (not rings, etc) and wouldn't take less, and pushes me to buy the whole thing for $100 and a "buddy will tow it" home for me. Sure I can ebay it. In fact, I can probably dispose of it in my garbage with a sawzall within a few weeks. No title. No way to convince wife. Well, prob could, but it's a 1500... I thank him for his time and wish him luck. Anyone want it? I know you guys have seen this a lot, but this was my first Spridget experience like this. http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/car/383186229.html Chris 66MKIII Brookfield, WI -----Original Message----- From: Bud Osbourne [mailto:abcoz at hky.com] Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 3:31 PM To: cmanuel at wi.rr.com; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Spridgets] quick headlight question Chris, Save every little bit you can from that '75, including every stinking fastener, electrical component, wiring harness/scrap/bit, hardware items.....just everything you can salvage. The little bits and pieces can (for the most part) be reconditioned and re-used on a future project, and they're of FAR better quality than just about anything you can find on the market, today. Bud Osbourne From pilotrob at msn.com Sun Jul 29 16:33:31 2007 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:33:31 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... No LBC - EAA Air Show Message-ID: Yes... there is always a safety (fudge) factor built in, Larry. Taking a guess the mfgr's. speed limit is a control surface "flutter" consideration, most likely. Excellent power/weight/airspeed performance per lb. of fuel consumed. Saves the motor as well considering full throttle is an "acceleration" (takeoff or go-around) consideration only. Cruise must be very economical all things considered. Nice sport plane! :) CapBob From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jul 29 16:34:28 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 16:34:28 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] quick headlight question In-Reply-To: <200707292215.l6TMEueT017686@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> References: <015601c7d21f$69b90220$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> <200707292215.l6TMEueT017686@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707291534w62fbef2dx180f67a9e269b47f@mail.gmail.com> I like the "working engine" part. Get him to demonstrate the engine working. That's a $100 parts car. You can get over $100 for the rear chunk on ebay if it is 3.9 or 3.7 and in decent condition. If the dual gauge works there's another $25-50. BTA 806 axles go for $25-50 easily. I'd give $100 if it were close enough. Part it out, you are sure to find a few things you need. Cheers, Derf From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 29 16:48:51 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 15:48:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Gearbox Oil In-Reply-To: <015701c7d222$c7e8eb00$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <830818.7558.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> It won't affect speed, it will affect the coating on the synchros. This from Eric Jones, who was a BMC factory mechanic, and has built thousands of gearboxes. Eric has also raced for 30+ years. --- Bud Osbourne wrote: > Ron is correct, but, back in the 60s and 70s, my > buddies racing > Spridgets used 90 wt. gear lube in their rib-case > gearboxes, with > excellent results. My "buddies" included the H > Production lap record > holder (the record stood for something over 5 or 6 > years), and future F > Production nat'l champion Bob Criss, among others. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jul 29 16:49:08 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 18:49:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] quick headlight question In-Reply-To: References: <380-220077029172026625@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <46AD1964.1090901@comcast.net> cmanuel at wi.rr.com wrote: > quick question for the collective brain- > > Will the headlight rings and assemblies from a '75 midget fit a '66 > sprite? Yes but you need the buckets because the 1500s used a clip on headlamp ring where earlier cars used a screw on ring. The buckets fit all the cars. > Anyone need parts from a trashed 75? Save the A arms, give the shox to Peter, sway bars don't go bad, Tranny, diff, wire harness, bulbs, gauges, heater, heater door flaps, defrost ducts, save it all. Let the body shell go back to earth but save all those parts. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jul 29 17:02:00 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 19:02:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] '65 dashboard drawing needed... In-Reply-To: <46AC65F5.7304.9A1FB0@dmg.bossig.com> References: <46AC65F5.7304.9A1FB0@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <46AD1C68.6060603@comcast.net> Dave G. wrote: > Does anybody have a drawing for a '65 Sprite dashboard from the rear?? > I need to see where the wires and connectors go. Dave white, brown, white/red go to ign switch brown/blu, red, blue go to headlamp switch red, red white - dash light switch black, black/green - wiper switch green/yellow goes to one of the black wires on the hgeater switch the other gets a solid green, doesn't matter what side. fuel gauge...green, grn/blk (grn/black goes to side marked "T" (tank) solid green goes to side marked "B" (battery) Tach...green to spade, white loop around the small thumb screw connector. Speedo just a dash light (red/white) and a ground. oil/temp same as speedo Blu/white goes to high beam indicator brown/yellow to ign lamp indicator brown/?? goes to dirty oil filter lamp L & R dash signal indicators , uh, I forget but they are light green/? or green/red and green/white. All this is from memory so don't scream too loud if I goofed ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jul 29 17:05:54 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 18:05:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Gearbox Oil In-Reply-To: <830818.7558.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <015701c7d222$c7e8eb00$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> <830818.7558.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0707291605h58606863tede070b372c19be6@mail.gmail.com> What is the coating on the synchronizer rings? The main caution I have heard about using gear lube in older trannys (those which originally recommended motor oil) concerns the lubes which contain sulphur compounds. Over time and with the addition of any moisture (H2O) you get minuet amounts of sulphuric acid (H2SO4) which attacks and destroys brass and copper bushings...etc. In old BMW motorcycle trannys, the bushings are brass but even with them, it takes something like 60K miles to do noticeable damage. I understand however that there are various different compositions of gear lube, some of which do not have the sulphur? The other concern I had heard about gear lubes had to do with them damaging the seals. This can be cured by using modern Viton seals. I have done this with motorcycle trannys a few times. Also GL-4 application gear lubes will not attack the brass or copper bushings. Modern GL-5 *will*. Cheers!! Jimindodgecity On 7/29/07, Ron Soave wrote: > It won't affect speed, it will affect the coating on > the synchros. This from Eric Jones, who was a BMC > factory mechanic, and has built thousands of > gearboxes. Eric has also raced for 30+ years. > > --- Bud Osbourne wrote: > > > Ron is correct, but, back in the 60s and 70s, my > > buddies racing > > Spridgets used 90 wt. gear lube in their rib-case > > gearboxes, with > > excellent results. My "buddies" included the H > > Production lap record > > holder (the record stood for something over 5 or 6 > > years), and future F > > Production nat'l champion Bob Criss, among others. > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search > that gives answers, not web links. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From dmg at bossig.com Sun Jul 29 17:32:34 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 16:32:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] '65 dashboard drawing needed... In-Reply-To: <46AD1C68.6060603@comcast.net> References: <46AC65F5.7304.9A1FB0@dmg.bossig.com>, <46AD1C68.6060603@comcast.net> Message-ID: <46ACC122.11592.1FE445B@dmg.bossig.com> Frank, Thank you very mch... that willhelp a lot ;^D Now I'm just joping the DPO didn't do too many splices... you should see the wiring to the headlights/tuen signals/ etc... He didn't bother to get bullet connectors, so he took blue coded spade connectors, folded the spade over and jammed them into the connector blocks in many, many places... It's going to take a little longer than I thought ;-o Thanks again ;-) - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From 62bt7 at prodigy.net Fri Jul 27 21:05:24 2007 From: 62bt7 at prodigy.net (62bt7) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:05:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Brits across the Pond / Flood Disaster References: <8C99E879903AEA9-9B4-5913@webmail-db11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <046c01c7d0c4$26e137d0$3235480c@kirkgrbymz8g9u> All, Not to lessen the concern for Austin-Healey owners suffering. I am informed DMH FAMILY members have suffered major loss, "complete home flooding" and, "it is a dreadful mess". My thoughts are with them ALL, as the1980 flood and 2003 fire here in San Bernardino took it's toll. Kirk Kvam Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brits across the Pond > Rudy - They are no longer across the pond, they're in it! All of us have the best wishes to those who are dealing with this right now. Alan > On 7/28/07, caws52803 at aol.com wrote: There has been alot of TV coverage about the flooding in England.? I was just curious if any of our Healey friends have suffered any losses. Rudy Streng BN4 AN5 Lenoir, NC _______________________________________________ From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Jul 27 17:56:43 2007 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 07:56:43 +0800 Subject: [Spridgets] [Healeys] Brits across the Pond In-Reply-To: <8C99E879903AEA9-9B4-5913@webmail-db11.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C99E879903AEA9-9B4-5913@webmail-db11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Rudy - They are no longer across the pond, they're in it! All of us have the best wishes to those who are dealing with this right now. Alan On 7/28/07, caws52803 at aol.com wrote: > > There has been alot of TV coverage about the flooding in England.? I was > just curious if any of our Healey friends have suffered any losses. > Rudy Streng > BN4 > AN5 > Lenoir, NC From abcoz at hky.com Sun Jul 29 18:08:58 2007 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 20:08:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Gearbox Oil In-Reply-To: <830818.7558.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <015a01c7d23d$d3dd9260$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Of that I have no doubt. Of course, my friends were rebuilding their trannys, due to wear from racing conditions, long before the additives in the gear lube could become a factor. I'm certainly not advocating the use of 90 wt. gear lube in Spridget trannys. I'm just sharing some amusing experience, from a bygone era. My Midget still runs the same tranny it had in it when I bought it (as a $500 beater) 25 years ago, and I still run 20W-50 engine oil in it. It still shifts beautifully, and I've been amazed by the longevity of it. Of course, first gear is pretty grotty, but, at least there are no missing teeth (I've always been very careful never to engage first gear until the car is completely stopped). By the way; speaking of racing. In addition to seeing/meeting some guys that really know what they are doing, I've encountered some of the most bone-headed people, in relation to how they set-up & maintain their Brit cars. One thing I suspected, going into racing, and had confirmed beyond a shadow of doubt, by the time I stopped racing: the BMC factory folks really knew what they were doing, and that if I followed the advice which they'd so helpfully put in their competition prep manuals and shop manuals, my car would stay together and run well. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 5:49 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gearbox Oil It won't affect speed, it will affect the coating on the synchros. This from Eric Jones, who was a BMC factory mechanic, and has built thousands of gearboxes. Eric has also raced for 30+ years. --- Bud Osbourne wrote: > Ron is correct, but, back in the 60s and 70s, my > buddies racing > Spridgets used 90 wt. gear lube in their rib-case > gearboxes, with > excellent results. My "buddies" included the H > Production lap record > holder (the record stood for something over 5 or 6 > years), and future F > Production nat'l champion Bob Criss, among others. From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Sun Jul 29 19:51:28 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:51:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] We're In Message-ID: <4CEF92D8-8D79-4AD8-9BCC-C75ABD06C6FD@phillymgclub.com> Well after 2 long weeks of sanding, painting, sanding some more, painting some more we are finally in our new home. The MG is in the driveway, the bed is set up (but we had to sleep on an air mattress last night as the water bed was still a bit on the chilly side), the kitchen is ready, and we have tunes, Saturday, july 28th, the movers showed up at 8:30, their estimate for the job was 7 hours for $1000. I told the kid running the show that since that was the estimate, then I had a grand in my pocket and any time they cut off that 7 hrs would go in their pocket. His response? "Seriously?" I answered "yes" and they were off!! 4 hrs later they were done. Completely soaked in sweat from the 90 F 80% humidity day they managed to pull it off and stick some cash in their pockets. About 11 AM a work crew gathered at the house. Theresa's family pitched in to sort stuff out. Included was her sisters, Barbara, Joan, and Maureen, her brother, Jim and her mother, Isabella. Barbara and Jim brought their spouses, Kenny and Janice. Kristi and Lambert, and Greg and Monica (Greg's girl friend) also showed up to help. By the time they were done, the kitchen, the living room, the dining room were all sorted out and ready to live. There is more to be done. We still have plenty of boxes to unpack, I have to get my tools and a small shed from Kristi and Lambert's, and the bathroom is still a construction zone. We decided to remodel the bathroom before we moved in and it has a toilet and a tub, but no shower or sink. It is nearly ready to paint and Jim is coming on Monday to hook up the sink. So it's close. So for the first time in 50 years, I am the proud owner of a house, not a mobile home. The feeling is amazing and Theresa and I are looking forward to spending our lives here. BTW, our new address is 729 Barclay Ave Morrisville, PA 19067 And this one you can write in Pen, we intend to stay for a while ;-) Larry -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From nases at verizon.net Sun Jul 29 20:01:27 2007 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:01:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] We're In In-Reply-To: <4CEF92D8-8D79-4AD8-9BCC-C75ABD06C6FD@phillymgclub.com> References: <4CEF92D8-8D79-4AD8-9BCC-C75ABD06C6FD@phillymgclub.com> Message-ID: <000101c7d24d$8aecadb0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> Congratulations Larry and Theresa. I hope you have a lot of good years there. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa To: Spridgets net Subject: [Spridgets] We're In Well after 2 long weeks of sanding, painting, sanding some more, painting some more we are finally in our new home. The MG is in the driveway, the bed is set up (but we had to sleep on an air mattress last night as the water bed was still a bit on the chilly side), the kitchen is ready, and we have tunes, Saturday, july 28th, the movers showed up at 8:30, their estimate for the job was 7 hours for $1000. I told the kid running the show that since that was the estimate, then I had a grand in my pocket and any time they cut off that 7 hrs would go in their pocket. His response? "Seriously?" I answered "yes" and they were off!! 4 hrs later they were done. Completely soaked in sweat from the 90 F 80% humidity day they managed to pull it off and stick some cash in their pockets. About 11 AM a work crew gathered at the house. Theresa's family pitched in to sort stuff out. Included was her sisters, Barbara, Joan, and Maureen, her brother, Jim and her mother, Isabella. Barbara and Jim brought their spouses, Kenny and Janice. Kristi and Lambert, and Greg and Monica (Greg's girl friend) also showed up to help. By the time they were done, the kitchen, the living room, the dining room were all sorted out and ready to live. There is more to be done. We still have plenty of boxes to unpack, I have to get my tools and a small shed from Kristi and Lambert's, and the bathroom is still a construction zone. We decided to remodel the bathroom before we moved in and it has a toilet and a tub, but no shower or sink. It is nearly ready to paint and Jim is coming on Monday to hook up the sink. So it's close. So for the first time in 50 years, I am the proud owner of a house, not a mobile home. The feeling is amazing and Theresa and I are looking forward to spending our lives here. BTW, our new address is 729 Barclay Ave Morrisville, PA 19067 And this one you can write in Pen, we intend to stay for a while ;-) Larry From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jul 29 20:06:25 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:06:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] We're In In-Reply-To: <4CEF92D8-8D79-4AD8-9BCC-C75ABD06C6FD@phillymgclub.com> References: <4CEF92D8-8D79-4AD8-9BCC-C75ABD06C6FD@phillymgclub.com> Message-ID: <46AD47A1.9080500@comcast.net> Larry Macy wrote: > Well after 2 long weeks of sanding, painting, sanding some more, And I thought you were talking about the body work on the MG. That's next right? As soon as the new house is in order or you turn 95, whatever comes first ;) Seriously congrats on the new home. Best of luck. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 29 20:16:35 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:16:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] We're In References: <4CEF92D8-8D79-4AD8-9BCC-C75ABD06C6FD@phillymgclub.com> Message-ID: <12e701c7d24f$a837d870$6401a8c0@Larry> Hey, congrats on the new digs, Larry. The really, real Larry, Larry Daniels P.S. So what do you need for the house warming? Fellow Spridgeteers need to know. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Macy" To: "Spridgets net" Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 8:51 PM Subject: [Spridgets] We're In Well after 2 long weeks of sanding, painting, sanding some more, painting some more we are finally in our new home. The MG is in the driveway, the bed is set up (but we had to sleep on an air mattress last night as the water bed was still a bit on the chilly side), the kitchen is ready, and we have tunes, Saturday, july 28th, the movers showed up at 8:30, their estimate for the job was 7 hours for $1000. I told the kid running the show that since that was the estimate, then I had a grand in my pocket and any time they cut off that 7 hrs would go in their pocket. His response? "Seriously?" I answered "yes" and they were off!! 4 hrs later they were done. Completely soaked in sweat from the 90 F 80% humidity day they managed to pull it off and stick some cash in their pockets. About 11 AM a work crew gathered at the house. Theresa's family pitched in to sort stuff out. Included was her sisters, Barbara, Joan, and Maureen, her brother, Jim and her mother, Isabella. Barbara and Jim brought their spouses, Kenny and Janice. Kristi and Lambert, and Greg and Monica (Greg's girl friend) also showed up to help. By the time they were done, the kitchen, the living room, the dining room were all sorted out and ready to live. There is more to be done. We still have plenty of boxes to unpack, I have to get my tools and a small shed from Kristi and Lambert's, and the bathroom is still a construction zone. We decided to remodel the bathroom before we moved in and it has a toilet and a tub, but no shower or sink. It is nearly ready to paint and Jim is coming on Monday to hook up the sink. So it's close. So for the first time in 50 years, I am the proud owner of a house, not a mobile home. The feeling is amazing and Theresa and I are looking forward to spending our lives here. BTW, our new address is 729 Barclay Ave Morrisville, PA 19067 And this one you can write in Pen, we intend to stay for a while ;-) Larry -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spridget63 at verizon.net Sun Jul 29 20:18:36 2007 From: spridget63 at verizon.net (DANIEL WALTERS) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:18:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] We're In References: <4CEF92D8-8D79-4AD8-9BCC-C75ABD06C6FD@phillymgclub.com> Message-ID: <000801c7d24f$f123e7e0$6700a8c0@am.med.ge.com> Congrats Larry, best of luck in the new (permanent) place! Dan From b-evans at earthlink.net Sun Jul 29 20:24:18 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 19:24:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] We're In Message-ID: <380-22007713022418500@earthlink.net> Larry Daniels wrote: "So what do you need for the house warming? Fellow Spridgeteers need to know." A HouseCluster From froggi60 at gmail.com Sun Jul 29 20:42:22 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 19:42:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] I need some of what he's smokin... In-Reply-To: <3746.216.183.226.225.1185729704.squirrel@www.thicko.com> References: <18020305.1185729099149.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <3746.216.183.226.225.1185729704.squirrel@www.thicko.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10707291942g446f09d6l71541d5ed5fa1a7c@mail.gmail.com> Hey.... How about sending pictures of all the different tops you have. Educational On 7/29/07, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > > Funny, I've always loved Sprite with hardtops... the hardtops set them > apart from the usual. In fact, it wasa red Bugeye with a factory hardtop, > maybe owned by he that shall not be named that captured my interest. > Sitting there with matching red top and side curtains, looking almost like > 'chop top", I thought it was cool, and set out to gather hardtops. > > I have 2 factory BMC bugeye hardtops. (I'd love to have the Warwick > version) > > I have an Ashley "bubble top" Bugeye fastback hardtop. > > I have a "swoopy" Ashley? Bugeye fastback hardtop > > I have a MKII factory hardtop.(love to have the Warwick MKII top as well) > > I have an Ashley MK fastback hardtop. > > I have 2 BMC factory MKIII hardtops. > > I have a Universal Laminations 100-4 hardtop. > > I have an aftermarket (can't remember the manufacturer) BN6 hardtop. > > I guess you can say I like hardtops on soft top cars. > > Storage is easier when you have cars to put them on. > > ;) > > > > Maybe it was $200. In reality it was actually in much BETTER condition > > than the one on ebay from the gold coast of CT. > > > > I think i paid $350.00 for that car. I wanted it for hardtop to use on > my > > '74. So now I have a hardtop for my '74. Big deal. :-/ I also have a > > hardtop for my Innocenti Spider. Incredibly difficult things to store. > At > > least the one for the '74 is unrestored so I don't have to worry about > it. > > The top hasn't been up on the '74 in about 3 years. > > > > The only good hardtops are those that don't come off. > > > > jay fishbein > > wallingford, ct > _______________________________________________ > froggi60 at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 29 20:51:07 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 19:51:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Brits across the Pond / Flood Disaster In-Reply-To: <046c01c7d0c4$26e137d0$3235480c@kirkgrbymz8g9u> Message-ID: <864755.92723.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- 62bt7 <62bt7 at prodigy.net> wrote: > My thoughts are with them ALL, One of my sister companies is Dowty Propellers. There were some scary pictures of their flooded wind tunnel. Thoughts to all, as well - Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Sun Jul 29 21:12:07 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:12:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] We're In References: <380-22007713022418500@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <00d801c7d257$69e43660$6501a8c0@actualshop> Buster: <> If yer gonna keep JJ happy then you would have to pose that question with a Mid-West sorts thing!!! It (Mid-Westernese) would be "A HoserCluster"!!! Anonici From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Sun Jul 29 21:15:42 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:15:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] We're In References: <4CEF92D8-8D79-4AD8-9BCC-C75ABD06C6FD@phillymgclub.com> <12e701c7d24f$a837d870$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <00ec01c7d257$e9c0c1a0$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> Sorry LD, the good "phud" has HAIR (and LOTS of it)!! You don't. Ergo, Macy is "real" Larry!!! From kevin at valentinephoto.net Sun Jul 29 21:40:47 2007 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 23:40:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] We're In In-Reply-To: <4CEF92D8-8D79-4AD8-9BCC-C75ABD06C6FD@phillymgclub.com> References: <4CEF92D8-8D79-4AD8-9BCC-C75ABD06C6FD@phillymgclub.com> Message-ID: <11520B47-0AE2-4723-A26C-AFDF3F470216@valentinephoto.net> On Jul 29, 2007, at 9:51 PM, Larry Macy wrote: > we are finally in our new home. The MG is in the > driveway, Congrats!!!!!!!! When do we build the garage? ;) Kevin From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Sun Jul 29 21:55:01 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:55:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] We're In References: <4CEF92D8-8D79-4AD8-9BCC-C75ABD06C6FD@phillymgclub.com> <11520B47-0AE2-4723-A26C-AFDF3F470216@valentinephoto.net> Message-ID: <01b701c7d25d$6a5279d0$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> YOU better finish YOUR house FIRST, Kev!!! Anon PS: Or I'll tell WIFE you have "other priorities"!!!! From b-evans at earthlink.net Sun Jul 29 23:45:30 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:45:30 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Brits across the Pond Message-ID: <380-22007713054530562@earthlink.net> Alan Seigrist wrote: "They are no longer across the pond, they're in it!" But some of them are getting out while they can. Tomorrow (Monday) Jim and Vicky Lodder, members of the list who opened their home to Frank Clarici and me, will be coming over with their twin sons for a two week visit. Vicky said that it hasn't stopped raining since we left, and she WANTS SUNSHINE! Then we have a two week visit from non-Sprite friends seeking to escape the flood. Finally Alan East-Jones, who will mastermind the anniversary JOGLE next year, and and his wife Pam will be coming over September 3. Frank and I were their guests in May also. So some will be escaping the floods for the dryness of Southern California. Buster From wmgilroy at gmail.com Mon Jul 30 00:59:02 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 23:59:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] We're In In-Reply-To: <01b701c7d25d$6a5279d0$6501a8c0@actualshop> References: <4CEF92D8-8D79-4AD8-9BCC-C75ABD06C6FD@phillymgclub.com> <11520B47-0AE2-4723-A26C-AFDF3F470216@valentinephoto.net> <01b701c7d25d$6a5279d0$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <441250190707292359j4a66573cm6b21c21203fea68e@mail.gmail.com> Buy her a ticket to Las Vegas and all will be good. -g On 7/29/07, 63AHBJ7 <63ahbj7 at gmail.com> wrote: > > <> > > YOU better finish YOUR house FIRST, Kev!!! > > Anon > > PS: Or I'll tell WIFE you have "other priorities"!!!! > _______________________________________________ > wmgilroy at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Vote for Team Death Trap at http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx each day and vote for until Aug. 8th and forward this onto anyone who can help spread the word. From gmari2 at verizon.net Mon Jul 30 05:06:30 2007 From: gmari2 at verizon.net (gmari2 at verizon.net) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 06:06:30 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spridgets] We're In Message-ID: <12067742.3984981185793591010.JavaMail.root@vms061.mailsrvcs.net> Enjoy the rush Larry!!! Just don't have any babies. At our age that can be severely life shortening. In my case it would be nearly instantaneous. I'd jump off the nearest bridge! Seriously...CONGRATULATIONS! George Marinos Glen Rock, NJ >From: Larry Macy >Date: 2007/07/29 Sun PM 08:51:28 CDT >To: Spridgets net >Subject: [Spridgets] We're In >Well after 2 long weeks of sanding, painting, sanding some more, >painting some more we are finally in our new home. The MG is in the >driveway, the bed is set up (but we had to sleep on an air mattress >last night as the water bed was still a bit on the chilly side), the >kitchen is ready, and we have tunes, > >Saturday, july 28th, the movers showed up at 8:30, their estimate for >the job was 7 hours for $1000. I told the kid running the show that >since that was the estimate, then I had a grand in my pocket and any >time they cut off that 7 hrs would go in their pocket. His response? >"Seriously?" I answered "yes" and they were off!! 4 hrs later they >were done. Completely soaked in sweat from the 90 F 80% humidity day >they managed to pull it off and stick some cash in their pockets. > >About 11 AM a work crew gathered at the house. Theresa's family >pitched in to sort stuff out. Included was her sisters, Barbara, Joan, >and Maureen, her brother, Jim and her mother, Isabella. Barbara and >Jim brought their spouses, Kenny and Janice. Kristi and Lambert, and >Greg and Monica (Greg's girl friend) also showed up to help. By the >time they were done, the kitchen, the living room, the dining room >were all sorted out and ready to live. > >There is more to be done. We still have plenty of boxes to unpack, I >have to get my tools and a small shed from Kristi and Lambert's, and >the bathroom is still a construction zone. We decided to remodel the >bathroom before we moved in and it has a toilet and a tub, but no >shower or sink. It is nearly ready to paint and Jim is coming on >Monday to hook up the sink. So it's close. > >So for the first time in 50 years, I am the proud owner of a house, >not a mobile home. The feeling is amazing and Theresa and I are >looking forward to spending our lives here. > >BTW, our new address is >729 Barclay Ave >Morrisville, PA 19067 > >And this one you can write in Pen, we intend to stay for a while ;-) > >Larry > > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. >_______________________________________________ >gmari2 at verizon.net > >Edit your replies > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets George Marinos From lists at woozy.com Mon Jul 30 06:16:23 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 08:16:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Gearbox Oil In-Reply-To: <404947.63375.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <404947.63375.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46ADD697.90704@woozy.com> Thanks to everyone who answered this question. The reason that I was asking is that second gear has gone out in my transmission and I was hoping to swap out the bad ribcase tranny with a smoothcase I have. The car was running a great a week ago. I put over 100 miles on it the previous Sunday. Second gear would pop out of gear periodically but it wasn't too bad. Then Wednesday night on the way home from work it kept getting harder to get the car in second gear and to keep it into second. Thursday morning I couldn't get it into second or if I did after numerous tries it would pop right out. My Midget is slated to be the demo car for our local club's tech session on engine health in two weeks and I'd like to get it back on the road by then. I guess putting the smoothcase is the quickest fix for now. Can anyone tell me what is involved with fixing second gear in the ribcase? Thanks again, Robert Ron Soave wrote: > Nope. Use regular motor oil. DO NOT use hypoid gear > oil. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jul 30 06:22:58 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:22:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Gearbox Oil References: <404947.63375.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <46ADD697.90704@woozy.com> Message-ID: <016a01c7d2a4$5daa2650$0401a8c0@midget> > My Midget is slated to be the demo car for our local club's tech session > on engine health in two weeks and I'd like to get it back on the road by > then. I guess putting the smoothcase is the quickest fix for now. Can > anyone tell me what is involved with fixing second gear in the ribcase? Maybe it should volunteer to be the demo car for ribcase rebuilds? Maybe it KNOWS what happens to demo cars at these events and is trying to escape the fate in store for it? From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jul 30 06:25:59 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:25:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] We're In References: <4CEF92D8-8D79-4AD8-9BCC-C75ABD06C6FD@phillymgclub.com><12e701c7d24f$a837d870$6401a8c0@Larry> <00ec01c7d257$e9c0c1a0$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <016d01c7d2a4$c99fa1a0$0401a8c0@midget> Welcome to the new reality, Larry! Are you sure you can adjust? From dwoerpel at wi.net Mon Jul 30 08:50:51 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 09:50:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] VOTE - as many times as you can In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070729063119.0467d140@littlebitcountry.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070729063119.0467d140@littlebitcountry.com> Message-ID: <46ADFACB.6040005@wi.net> Don't forget to vote. I just got Death Trap to 30% so there is still hope! Dave is right it takes 12 votes to increase 0.1%. http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx Dave Woerpel 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS Burlington WI From JNBrashear at garverengineers.com Mon Jul 30 09:21:17 2007 From: JNBrashear at garverengineers.com (Brashear, Jack, N) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:21:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Many thanks for the help - Crown Vic tranny problem - No LBC Message-ID: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE60341F7C8@glitas07.garverinc.local> Many thanks to all you listers for the feedback on the shudder problem with wifey-poo's Crown Victoria transmission. Several of you nailed the problem spot on. A six-dollar tube of NAPA "Dr. Tranny's Instant Shudder Fixx" took care of a scary situation. Lots better than a trans overhaul....thanks again !! Jack From peter at nosimport.com Mon Jul 30 09:52:25 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:52:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget parts for sale-SE Wisconsin In-Reply-To: References: <00d001c7d138$b1b1ecf0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> <168793.43796.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070730105144.03a966a8@nosimport.com> Careful. A few of those parts are for MGBs. Peter C == At 12:38 PM 7/28/2007, cmanuel at wi.rr.com wrote: >Hi all-found this locally. No ties to it, don't know the guy, YMMV, >etc. Wants to sell it as a lot and just can't fit all the stuff at >this time. > >http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/pts/382362067.html > >Chris > >66MKIII >Brookfield, WI From peter at nosimport.com Mon Jul 30 11:02:58 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:02:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone try this (LBC Content)? In-Reply-To: <246752.58666.qm@web56115.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070729063119.0467d140@littlebitcountry.com> <246752.58666.qm@web56115.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070730115719.035ff6a8@nosimport.com> At 08:11 AM 7/29/2007, John Mac wrote: >http://www.mgaguru.com/mgtech/suspensn/fs122.htm >Looks like a bunch of bits from Pep Boys and McMaster >Car. > >John MacDonald >Bedford, NH > >Running Topless MGB! :) >59 Sprite :( >------------------------------------------------------- John, Let me help. It's McMaster Carr. 2 r's And actually, we copied what Armstrong devised, but thought casting new bodies un-necessary. Also, none were ever made for the front of an MGB or and MGA, (no room) which was part of our motivation. Other mods are required internally as well. Heck, I'll even give you the part numbers of the components. Peter C. =========== From smarc at smarc.net Mon Jul 30 13:04:33 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:04:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] brake bleeding problems Message-ID: <46AE3641.1010204@smarc.net> Ok, getting somewhat aggravated here, this shouldn't be so difficult... 73 midget, complete brake job, all three hoses, new wheel cylinders, rebuilt calipers, brand new lockheed master. Castrol LMA fluid. Using a long piece of tubing running from bleeder back to master, and starting from the longest run to the shortest, bled the system till no more air bubbles could be seen anywhere. Seemed good with a nice firm pedal. Car is still on stands, so cant drive it yet. Notice the front hubs seem locked, can't budge them by hand. Hmmm says I, let me crack the bleeders on the front and see what happens. Cracked them just the slightest bit, and the front hubs freed right up. Once again brake pedal hits the floor with no resistance. Back to where I started -WTH?! 2 - 3 pumps builds up system pressure again, but it "just disappears" within moments, pedal will go to the floor. No fluid leaking, and had good fluid flow from each wheel (as determined by bleeding). This isn't the first time I have done this job (albeit previously on MGB's). Never had any probs like this. What is going on here? Have gone around multiple times tapping on lines & fittings to remove trapped air. Have bled using conventional method. Have bled by pump pedal several times to build pressure, then crack bleeder (closing it while pedal is held down of course). Have checked the differential pressure warning switch - it is centered and working. No, I did not bench bleed the master as I had no fittings which would work with it. My uneducated guess is that bleeding using the tubing as I did is pretty much like bench bleeding? We continued to circulate the fluid for a few minutes after the bubbles had disappeared thru the entire 12 - 14 feet of tubing... Could there be that much more air lurking in the system? -- Marc I'm taking the time for a number of things that weren't important yesterday... From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jul 30 13:14:09 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 13:14:09 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone try this (LBC Content)? In-Reply-To: <246752.58666.qm@web56115.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070729063119.0467d140@littlebitcountry.com> <246752.58666.qm@web56115.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707301214g21e66fd8sd8d6bf4be7e7a89f@mail.gmail.com> On 7/29/07, John Mac wrote: > http://www.mgaguru.com/mgtech/suspensn/fs122.htm > Looks like a bunch of bits from Pep Boys and McMaster > Car. Yes, but Peter would not put a bunch of bits together and sell them. His reputation for being THE Armstrong shock guy would be tarnished if he started peddling junk. You can bet there is some engineering and modification involved in making them work properly. If not, then Peter would simply give you a list of the bits and tell you how to install them. You should contact him for all your parts needs, too. Paul A and Ed at justbrits.com are good, too. Cheers, Derf From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Jul 30 13:14:59 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 14:14:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] brake bleeding problems In-Reply-To: <46AE3641.1010204@smarc.net> References: <46AE3641.1010204@smarc.net> Message-ID: What is the condition of your rubber flex hoses at the front? Could they be old, and collapsing internally? This is a common ailment when the old hoses begin to fail. Brad On 7/30/07, Marc wrote: > Ok, getting somewhat aggravated here, this shouldn't be so difficult... > > 73 midget, complete brake job, all three hoses, new wheel cylinders, > rebuilt calipers, brand new lockheed master. Castrol LMA fluid. > > Using a long piece of tubing running from bleeder back to master, and > starting from the longest run to the shortest, bled the system till no > more air bubbles could be seen anywhere. Seemed good with a nice firm > pedal. Car is still on stands, so cant drive it yet. Notice the front > hubs seem locked, can't budge them by hand. Hmmm says I, let me crack > the bleeders on the front and see what happens. > > Cracked them just the slightest bit, and the front hubs freed right up. > Once again brake pedal hits the floor with no resistance. Back to where > I started -WTH?! 2 - 3 pumps builds up system pressure again, but it > "just disappears" within moments, pedal will go to the floor. No fluid > leaking, and had good fluid flow from each wheel (as determined by > bleeding). > > This isn't the first time I have done this job (albeit previously on > MGB's). Never had any probs like this. What is going on here? > > Have gone around multiple times tapping on lines & fittings to remove > trapped air. Have bled using conventional method. Have bled by pump > pedal several times to build pressure, then crack bleeder (closing it > while pedal is held down of course). > > Have checked the differential pressure warning switch - it is centered > and working. No, I did not bench bleed the master as I had no fittings > which would work with it. My uneducated guess is that bleeding using > the tubing as I did is pretty much like bench bleeding? We continued to > circulate the fluid for a few minutes after the bubbles had disappeared > thru the entire 12 - 14 feet of tubing... Could there be that much more > air lurking in the system? From smarc at smarc.net Mon Jul 30 13:17:31 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:17:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] brake bleeding problems In-Reply-To: References: <46AE3641.1010204@smarc.net> Message-ID: <46AE394B.204@smarc.net> As I said, all three hoses replaced... Marc I'm taking the time for a number of things that weren't important yesterday... Brad Fornal wrote: > What is the condition of your rubber flex hoses at the front? Could > they be old, and collapsing internally? This is a common ailment when > the old hoses begin to fail. > > Brad > > On 7/30/07, Marc wrote: > >> Ok, getting somewhat aggravated here, this shouldn't be so difficult... >> >> 73 midget, complete brake job, all three hoses, new wheel cylinders, >> rebuilt calipers, brand new lockheed master. Castrol LMA fluid. >> >> Using a long piece of tubing running from bleeder back to master, and >> starting from the longest run to the shortest, bled the system till no >> more air bubbles could be seen anywhere. Seemed good with a nice firm >> pedal. Car is still on stands, so cant drive it yet. Notice the front >> hubs seem locked, can't budge them by hand. Hmmm says I, let me crack >> the bleeders on the front and see what happens. >> >> Cracked them just the slightest bit, and the front hubs freed right up. >> Once again brake pedal hits the floor with no resistance. Back to where >> I started -WTH?! 2 - 3 pumps builds up system pressure again, but it >> "just disappears" within moments, pedal will go to the floor. No fluid >> leaking, and had good fluid flow from each wheel (as determined by >> bleeding). >> >> This isn't the first time I have done this job (albeit previously on >> MGB's). Never had any probs like this. What is going on here? >> >> Have gone around multiple times tapping on lines & fittings to remove >> trapped air. Have bled using conventional method. Have bled by pump >> pedal several times to build pressure, then crack bleeder (closing it >> while pedal is held down of course). >> >> Have checked the differential pressure warning switch - it is centered >> and working. No, I did not bench bleed the master as I had no fittings >> which would work with it. My uneducated guess is that bleeding using >> the tubing as I did is pretty much like bench bleeding? We continued to >> circulate the fluid for a few minutes after the bubbles had disappeared >> thru the entire 12 - 14 feet of tubing... Could there be that much more >> air lurking in the system? From abcoz at hky.com Mon Jul 30 13:26:16 2007 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:26:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] brake bleeding problems In-Reply-To: <46AE3641.1010204@smarc.net> Message-ID: <001101c7d2df$7fe36f20$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Marc, Sometimes the calipers trap air and are a real bear to bleed out. From the sound of it, you are working by yourself on this. Sometimes, it helps to have 3 people: one to pump the brake pedal, one to operate the bleeders, and one to keep the brake fluid reservoir filled. By doing it this way, the air has much less time to flow back to a "high point" in the circuit, from which it can continue to frustrate your efforts to expel it. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Marc Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 2:05 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] brake bleeding problems Ok, getting somewhat aggravated here, this shouldn't be so difficult... 73 midget, complete brake job, all three hoses, new wheel cylinders, rebuilt calipers, brand new lockheed master. Castrol LMA fluid. Using a long piece of tubing running from bleeder back to master, and starting from the longest run to the shortest, bled the system till no more air bubbles could be seen anywhere. Seemed good with a nice firm pedal. Car is still on stands, so cant drive it yet. Notice the front hubs seem locked, can't budge them by hand. Hmmm says I, let me crack the bleeders on the front and see what happens. Cracked them just the slightest bit, and the front hubs freed right up. Once again brake pedal hits the floor with no resistance. Back to where I started -WTH?! 2 - 3 pumps builds up system pressure again, but it "just disappears" within moments, pedal will go to the floor. No fluid leaking, and had good fluid flow from each wheel (as determined by bleeding). This isn't the first time I have done this job (albeit previously on MGB's). Never had any probs like this. What is going on here? Have gone around multiple times tapping on lines & fittings to remove trapped air. Have bled using conventional method. Have bled by pump pedal several times to build pressure, then crack bleeder (closing it while pedal is held down of course). Have checked the differential pressure warning switch - it is centered and working. No, I did not bench bleed the master as I had no fittings which would work with it. My uneducated guess is that bleeding using the tubing as I did is pretty much like bench bleeding? We continued to circulate the fluid for a few minutes after the bubbles had disappeared thru the entire 12 - 14 feet of tubing... Could there be that much more air lurking in the system? -- Marc I'm taking the time for a number of things that weren't important yesterday... From froggi60 at gmail.com Mon Jul 30 16:26:44 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:26:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] We're In In-Reply-To: <4CEF92D8-8D79-4AD8-9BCC-C75ABD06C6FD@phillymgclub.com> References: <4CEF92D8-8D79-4AD8-9BCC-C75ABD06C6FD@phillymgclub.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10707301526q42476f36o5dd262fb9282fea8@mail.gmail.com> Best of luck and memories-to-come in your new Home! Herb On 7/29/07, Larry Macy wrote: > > Well after 2 long weeks of sanding, painting, sanding some more, > painting some more we are finally in our new home. The MG is in the > driveway, the bed is set up (but we had to sleep on an air mattress > last night as the water bed was still a bit on the chilly side), the > kitchen is ready, and we have tunes, > > Saturday, july 28th, the movers showed up at 8:30, their estimate for > the job was 7 hours for $1000. I told the kid running the show that > since that was the estimate, then I had a grand in my pocket and any > time they cut off that 7 hrs would go in their pocket. His response? > "Seriously?" I answered "yes" and they were off!! 4 hrs later they > were done. Completely soaked in sweat from the 90 F 80% humidity day > they managed to pull it off and stick some cash in their pockets. > > About 11 AM a work crew gathered at the house. Theresa's family > pitched in to sort stuff out. Included was her sisters, Barbara, Joan, > and Maureen, her brother, Jim and her mother, Isabella. Barbara and > Jim brought their spouses, Kenny and Janice. Kristi and Lambert, and > Greg and Monica (Greg's girl friend) also showed up to help. By the > time they were done, the kitchen, the living room, the dining room > were all sorted out and ready to live. > > There is more to be done. We still have plenty of boxes to unpack, I > have to get my tools and a small shed from Kristi and Lambert's, and > the bathroom is still a construction zone. We decided to remodel the > bathroom before we moved in and it has a toilet and a tub, but no > shower or sink. It is nearly ready to paint and Jim is coming on > Monday to hook up the sink. So it's close. > > So for the first time in 50 years, I am the proud owner of a house, > not a mobile home. The feeling is amazing and Theresa and I are > looking forward to spending our lives here. > > BTW, our new address is > 729 Barclay Ave > Morrisville, PA 19067 > > And this one you can write in Pen, we intend to stay for a while ;-) > > Larry > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > _______________________________________________ > froggi60 at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Mon Jul 30 18:29:13 2007 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:29:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] We're In Message-ID: <2b9a01c7d309$d1c62a60$0e6a010a@mail2world.com> Heh, heh. That's why my Midget was restored in 3 years, and my house is still a shambles! Congratulations you two! Good luck with the house! -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Frank Clarici [spritenut at comcast.net] Sent: 7/29/2007 10:07:25 PM To: lmacy at phillymgclub.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] We're In Larry Macy wrote: > Well after 2 long weeks of sanding, painting, sanding some more, And I thought you were talking about the body work on the MG. That's next right? As soon as the new house is in order or you turn 95, whatever comes first ;) Seriously congrats on the new home. Best of luck. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From nases at verizon.net Mon Jul 30 18:38:01 2007 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 20:38:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Pedal box dust excluder Message-ID: <000001c7d30b$0d5c9220$6a01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> I have a dust excluder to install in my rebuilt pedal box. Does it get put in the top over the pedals or underneath the box (inside the car) over the pedal tops? It seems it won't stay in place if installed on top of the box. Can someone explain bench bleeding the MC to me. I'm not sure what slave or tranny I'm using so I don't plan on bleeding the clutch side yet. Any good way to seal that off until I'm ready so I can get the brakes operating first? Thanks. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon Jul 30 19:14:31 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:14:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] No Sale Message-ID: <7348a1363ea12034a1ab38a.20070730181431.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> A Few days ago I told the list I was buying a 73 RWA Midget. I was supposed to go trailer it away today at 6PM. I just got a call from the guy's wife. She says he won't be selling it to me because today someone offered him more than he had promised it to me for. Apparently he did not have the guts to call me himself. So, I'm sitting here with $1000 cash in my pocket and nowhere to go. I just started my 2 week vacation today and had not planned on going anywhere, but now... Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From dmg at bossig.com Mon Jul 30 19:18:39 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:18:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No Sale In-Reply-To: <7348a1363ea12034a1ab38a.20070730181431.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <7348a1363ea12034a1ab38a.20070730181431.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <46AE2B7F.12076.2894D7F@dmg.bossig.com> Viva Las Vegas.... ;^D On 30 Jul 2007 at 18:14, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: >> So, I'm sitting here with $1000 >> cash in my pocket and nowhere to go. I just started my 2 week vacation >> today and had not planned on going anywhere, but now... - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Mon Jul 30 19:23:43 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 20:23:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No Sale References: <7348a1363ea12034a1ab38a.20070730181431.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <015201c7d311$6f7a9dc0$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> STURGIS IS calling, Mike!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!! From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon Jul 30 19:41:21 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:41:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] No Sale In-Reply-To: <46AE2B7F.12076.2894D7F@dmg.bossig.com> References: <7348a1363ea12034a1ab38a.20070730181431.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <46AE2B7F.12076.2894D7F@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: Vegas!?! I might as well stay home and flush the 1000 bucks down the toilet! Vegas has never been kind to me. Mike Dave G. > Viva Las Vegas.... ;^D > > On 30 Jul 2007 at 18:14, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: > >>> So, I'm sitting here with $1000 >>> cash in my pocket and nowhere to go. I just started my 2 week vacation >>> today and had not planned on going anywhere, but now... > > - > Dave G > '65 MKIII Sprite > _______________________________________________ > rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon Jul 30 19:43:25 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:43:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] No Sale In-Reply-To: <015201c7d311$6f7a9dc0$6501a8c0@actualshop> References: <7348a1363ea12034a1ab38a.20070730181431.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <015201c7d311$6f7a9dc0$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <11d8ca30075a2c9dea42234a.20070730184325.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Now that's something to think about. All I would have to do is get on the bike and ride... Mike 63AHBJ7 > <> > > STURGIS IS calling, Mike!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > !!! > _______________________________________________ > rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jul 30 19:50:34 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:50:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No Sale In-Reply-To: <7348a1363ea12034a1ab38a.20070730181431.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <7348a1363ea12034a1ab38a.20070730181431.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <46AE956A.70905@comcast.net> rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: > So, I'm sitting here with $1000 > cash in my pocket and nowhere to go. I just started my 2 week vacation > today and had not planned on going anywhere, but now... I bet the Healey could eat up that $1000 real fast. Start working on it!!! Or ride out to Sturgis. I was there in 92 but without a bike. Even if you don't bring a bike, it was an unforgettable experience. I never saw so many beautiful bikes and nice people. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From dmg at bossig.com Mon Jul 30 19:55:02 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:55:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No Sale In-Reply-To: References: <7348a1363ea12034a1ab38a.20070730181431.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com>, <46AE2B7F.12076.2894D7F@dmg.bossig.com>, Message-ID: <46AE3406.30372.2AA9A56@dmg.bossig.com> I was thinking of the shows.... On 30 Jul 2007 at 18:41, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: >> Vegas!?! I might as well stay home and flush the 1000 bucks down the >> toilet! Vegas has never been kind to me. - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Mon Jul 30 19:59:44 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 20:59:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No Sale In-Reply-To: <7348a1363ea12034a1ab38a.20070730181431.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <7348a1363ea12034a1ab38a.20070730181431.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0707301859s628b59b9ic4beffe6ad644617@mail.gmail.com> "Your husband is a gutless sack ma'am. " If you didn't say that you are teh chicken. On 7/30/07, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: > A Few days ago I told the list I was buying a 73 RWA Midget. I was > supposed to go trailer it away today at 6PM. I just got a call from the > guy's wife. She says he won't be selling it to me because today someone > offered him more than he had promised it to me for. Apparently he did > not have the guts to call me himself. So, I'm sitting here with $1000 > cash in my pocket and nowhere to go. I just started my 2 week vacation > today and had not planned on going anywhere, but now... > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > _______________________________________________ -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - Reduced! $875 From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon Jul 30 20:01:03 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:01:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] No Sale In-Reply-To: <46AE956A.70905@comcast.net> References: <7348a1363ea12034a1ab38a.20070730181431.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <46AE956A.70905@comcast.net> Message-ID: In reality I DO have a lot of work to do on my Bugeye. I need to change out the front suspension bushings, solve the clutch problem (just rebuilt the master) with the 5 speed install, replace all the hoses, install all the correct exhaust hangers and really break in the new 1275 rebuild. Sounds like that could take up part of the 2 weeks. Anyone local got some time on their hands in the next couple of weeks I will supply all the beer and pizza they can hold, even if they only show up for moral support. Mike Frank Clarici > rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: >> So, I'm sitting here with $1000 >> cash in my pocket and nowhere to go. I just started my 2 week vacation >> today and had not planned on going anywhere, but now... > > I bet the Healey could eat up that $1000 real fast. > Start working on it!!! > Or ride out to Sturgis. I was there in 92 but without a bike. > Even if you don't bring a bike, it was an unforgettable experience. > I never saw so many beautiful bikes and nice people. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon Jul 30 20:03:17 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:03:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] No Sale In-Reply-To: <46AE3406.30372.2AA9A56@dmg.bossig.com> References: <7348a1363ea12034a1ab38a.20070730181431.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com>, <46AE2B7F.12076.2894D7F@dmg.bossig.com>, <46AE3406.30372.2AA9A56@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: I don't think Blue Man Group is a satisfactory substitute for a 73 RWA Midget, but the Chicken Ranch... Mike Dave G. > I was thinking of the shows.... > > On 30 Jul 2007 at 18:41, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: > >>> Vegas!?! I might as well stay home and flush the 1000 bucks down the >>> toilet! Vegas has never been kind to me. > > - > Dave G > '65 MKIII Sprite > _______________________________________________ > rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jul 30 20:06:51 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 22:06:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No Sale In-Reply-To: References: <7348a1363ea12034a1ab38a.20070730181431.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <46AE956A.70905@comcast.net> Message-ID: <46AE993B.5070801@comcast.net> rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: > In reality I DO have a lot of work to do on my Bugeye. I need to change > out the front suspension bushings, solve the clutch problem (just rebuilt > the master) with the 5 speed install, replace all the hoses, install all > the correct exhaust hangers and really break in the new 1275 rebuild. > Sounds like that could take up part of the 2 weeks. At least a day, 2 if you have lots of beers ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon Jul 30 20:09:00 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:09:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] No Sale In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0707301859s628b59b9ic4beffe6ad644617@mail.gmail.com> References: <7348a1363ea12034a1ab38a.20070730181431.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <8a336b9d0707301859s628b59b9ic4beffe6ad644617@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0a0a0a0a.20070730190900.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Ya know Flash, I was only trying to put another Spridget back on the road. Now someone else is digging deep in his wallet and doing it. I hope he has a lot of fun with it. I've got a BN2 restoration going that has cost me a third of what I paid for my house in '88 so far. I'm already doing my part to put 'em back on the road! Mike P.S. Cluck, Cluck! Flash. > "Your husband is a gutless sack ma'am. " > > If you didn't say that you are the chicken. > > On 7/30/07, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: >> A Few days ago I told the list I was buying a 73 RWA Midget. I was >> supposed to go trailer it away today at 6PM. I just got a call from the >> guy's wife. She says he won't be selling it to me because today someone >> offered him more than he had promised it to me for. Apparently he did >> not have the guts to call me himself. So, I'm sitting here with $1000 >> cash in my pocket and nowhere to go. I just started my 2 week vacation >> today and had not planned on going anywhere, but now... >> Mike MacLean >> 60 Sprite >> 56 BN2 >> _______________________________________________ From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon Jul 30 20:11:27 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:11:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] No Sale In-Reply-To: <46AE993B.5070801@comcast.net> References: <7348a1363ea12034a1ab38a.20070730181431.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <46AE956A.70905@comcast.net> <46AE993B.5070801@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4ee4ad44fac53aa1245ca.20070730191127.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> I guess it's an East Coast, West Coast kinda thang. ;^) Mike Frank Clarici > rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: >> In reality I DO have a lot of work to do on my Bugeye. I need to change >> out the front suspension bushings, solve the clutch problem (just >> rebuilt >> the master) with the 5 speed install, replace all the hoses, install all >> the correct exhaust hangers and really break in the new 1275 rebuild. >> Sounds like that could take up part of the 2 weeks. > > At least a day, 2 if you have lots of beers ;) > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Mon Jul 30 20:27:15 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:27:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No Sale In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0707301859s628b59b9ic4beffe6ad644617@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200707310225.l6V2PEdR000365@ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com> Come on up to Milwaukee, I got the week off too and a lot of beer. No, the house painting will not be completed. Grass is too dry to grow...I hope to make some good progress this week. Cold draft beer... Chris 66MKIII On 7/30/07, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: > A Few days ago I told the list I was buying a 73 RWA Midget. I was > supposed to go trailer it away today at 6PM. I just got a call from the > guy's wife. She says he won't be selling it to me because today someone > offered him more than he had promised it to me for. Apparently he did > not have the guts to call me himself. So, I'm sitting here with $1000 > cash in my pocket and nowhere to go. I just started my 2 week vacation > today and had not planned on going anywhere, but now... > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > _______________________________________________ From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon Jul 30 20:40:48 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:40:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] No Sale In-Reply-To: <200707310225.l6V2PEdR000365@ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com> References: <8a336b9d0707301859s628b59b9ic4beffe6ad644617@mail.gmail.com> <200707310225.l6V2PEdR000365@ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <1fe00a55c80a4fb00a76200a.20070730194048.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Is that Chris or Tom Sawyer? I think I'll stay here and work on my Bugeye and clean the garage, but your welcome to paint the house later and come drink my beer. Mike Chris Manuel > Come on up to Milwaukee, I got the week off too and a lot of beer. > No, the house painting will not be completed. Grass is too dry to > grow...I > hope to make some good progress this week. > > Cold draft beer... > > Chris > > 66MKIII > > > On 7/30/07, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: >> A Few days ago I told the list I was buying a 73 RWA Midget. I was >> supposed to go trailer it away today at 6PM. I just got a call from the >> guy's wife. She says he won't be selling it to me because today someone >> offered him more than he had promised it to me for. Apparently he did >> not have the guts to call me himself. So, I'm sitting here with $1000 >> cash in my pocket and nowhere to go. I just started my 2 week vacation >> today and had not planned on going anywhere, but now... >> Mike MacLean >> 60 Sprite >> 56 BN2 >> _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jul 30 21:01:45 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 22:01:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No Sale In-Reply-To: <1fe00a55c80a4fb00a76200a.20070730194048.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <8a336b9d0707301859s628b59b9ic4beffe6ad644617@mail.gmail.com> <200707310225.l6V2PEdR000365@ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1fe00a55c80a4fb00a76200a.20070730194048.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0707302001n4437b88cn53d536c5ab0becb9@mail.gmail.com> Hell, Mike... C'mon out to Dodge City! We'll tell lies about our cars and bikes, burn up a few ammo cans of pistol rounds, check out the Wild West, and drink the place dry!! Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City On 7/30/07, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: > Is that Chris or Tom Sawyer? I think I'll stay here and work on my Bugeye > and clean the garage, but your welcome to paint the house later and come > drink my beer. > Mike > > > Chris Manuel > > Come on up to Milwaukee, I got the week off too and a lot of beer. > > No, the house painting will not be completed. Grass is too dry to > > grow...I > > hope to make some good progress this week. > > > > Cold draft beer... > > > > Chris > > > > 66MKIII > > > > > > On 7/30/07, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: > >> A Few days ago I told the list I was buying a 73 RWA Midget. I was > >> supposed to go trailer it away today at 6PM. I just got a call from the > >> guy's wife. She says he won't be selling it to me because today someone > >> offered him more than he had promised it to me for. Apparently he did > >> not have the guts to call me himself. So, I'm sitting here with $1000 > >> cash in my pocket and nowhere to go. I just started my 2 week vacation > >> today and had not planned on going anywhere, but now... > >> Mike MacLean > >> 60 Sprite > >> 56 BN2 > >> _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > > rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > > > Edit your replies > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Mon Jul 30 21:20:17 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 22:20:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No Sale In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0707302001n4437b88cn53d536c5ab0becb9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200707310318.l6V3IGKq007349@ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com> Oh no...no worry about painting. Just a request from the wife, but its on the idiot neighbor side of the house so it'll wait until fall. I like waking them up to the buzzing sound of a Wagner. (they have cats) I can't have guns here. But I do have Leinenkugels on tap. Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 10:02 PM Cc: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No Sale Hell, Mike... C'mon out to Dodge City! We'll tell lies about our cars and bikes, burn up a few ammo cans of pistol rounds, check out the Wild West, and drink the place dry!! Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City On 7/30/07, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: > Is that Chris or Tom Sawyer? I think I'll stay here and work on my Bugeye > and clean the garage, but your welcome to paint the house later and come > drink my beer. > Mike > > > Chris Manuel > > Come on up to Milwaukee, I got the week off too and a lot of beer. > > No, the house painting will not be completed. Grass is too dry to > > grow...I > > hope to make some good progress this week. > > > > Cold draft beer... > > > > Chris > > > > 66MKIII \ From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon Jul 30 21:42:51 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 20:42:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] No Sale In-Reply-To: <200707310318.l6V3IGKq007349@ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com> References: <43840a7e0707302001n4437b88cn53d536c5ab0becb9@mail.gmail.com> <200707310318.l6V3IGKq007349@ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <238f8a5fb32a58e6ca83c88a.20070730204251.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Oooooooooh. On tap... Mike Chris Manuel > Oh no...no worry about painting. Just a request from the wife, but its on > the idiot neighbor side of the house so it'll wait until fall. I like > waking them up to the buzzing sound of a Wagner. (they have cats) > > I can't have guns here. But I do have Leinenkugels on tap. > > > Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > Jim > Johnson > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 10:02 PM > Cc: Spridget List > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No Sale > > Hell, Mike... C'mon out to Dodge City! We'll tell lies about our > cars and bikes, burn up a few ammo cans of pistol rounds, check out > the Wild West, and drink the place dry!! > > Cheers!! > Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City > > On 7/30/07, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: >> Is that Chris or Tom Sawyer? I think I'll stay here and work on my >> Bugeye >> and clean the garage, but your welcome to paint the house later and come >> drink my beer. >> Mike >> >> >> Chris Manuel >> > Come on up to Milwaukee, I got the week off too and a lot of beer. >> > No, the house painting will not be completed. Grass is too dry to >> > grow...I >> > hope to make some good progress this week. >> > >> > Cold draft beer... >> > >> > Chris >> > >> > 66MKIII > \ > _______________________________________________ > rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Mon Jul 30 22:08:24 2007 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:08:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Pedal box dust excluder Message-ID: Hi Phil, The excluder goes on the outside. There should be four bent over tabs that hold it in place. If you pedal box is missing them, that would explain it not staying in place. Regarding blocking off the clutch side, you could make up a short piece of line that can be capped with a plug and later used with a union to connect the rest of the way to the slave. I suggest this as it will save you some fluid mess as removing a plug or line from the rear of the MC will likely cause some spillage once you have fluid in there. Otherwise, I guess drain the MC with something akin to a turkey baster if you use the latter technique. Cheers. Gerard Message: 8 I have a dust excluder to install in my rebuilt pedal box. Does it get put in the top over the pedals or underneath the box (inside the car) over the pedal tops? It seems it won't stay in place if installed on top of the box. Can someone explain bench bleeding the MC to me. I'm not sure what slave or tranny I'm using so I don't plan on bleeding the clutch side yet. Any good way to seal that off until I'm ready so I can get the brakes operating first? Thanks. Phil Nase From racerbob70 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 31 10:07:17 2007 From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 09:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [MGVR] STOLEN MGA Message-ID: <756646.55408.qm@web51611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Perhaps you fellows on the west coast can keep an eye out for this car... --- Scott Brown wrote: > To: MGVR at yahoogroups.com > From: "Scott Brown" > Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:51:00 -0000 > Subject: [MGVR] STOLEN MGA > > Steve Meline, Huntington Beach CA > Hi Guys. > The beige A with the smooth valance, head fairing > and gold wheels featured in the "...GT-32" > and "... Smooth valance" thead is mine. I've always > wanted to show it to you but could never > figure-out the technology. I really hope you like > it. > Last night, after getting home from Whistler, it was > stolen. I had an elctrical fire (just smoke) > on the way home with the pizza. Parked it, and > retuned to find it gone. I had it for 27 years. > Get yours insured! > Please keep an eye-out for it or its components. It > has a Ford 5-speed, very well developed > 18V engine, roller rockers, Maniflow intake and > exhaust manifolds, MGA SUs.... > > Thank you. > Steve > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting From pvanwig at charter.net Tue Jul 31 11:21:17 2007 From: pvanwig at charter.net (Paul Van Wig) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 10:21:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] VOTE - as many times as you can In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070729063119.0467d140@littlebitcountry.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070729063119.0467d140@littlebitcountry.com> Message-ID: <006201c7d397$34893c40$8700a8c0@PaulsLaptop> I just found out I can vote twice a day on one machine. I use a iMac with bootcamp and Win xp and the web site thinks it is two machines! Paul Van Wig -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+pvanwig=charter.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+pvanwig=charter.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Yealy Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 3:34 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] VOTE - as many times as you can Apocalyptic Rust Rockets 34.6% Death Trap 28.8% X-Wing Racer 24.5% Big Pig Warriors 9.4% DB5 Devils 2.7% Get out and vote, the Death Trap has fallen way behind. http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jul 31 11:58:56 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:58:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] VOTE - as many times as you can Message-ID: <20070731175856.TTTS8273.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Humph!! I'm sitting here repeatedly voting for death trap, deleting cookies, reloading the page and voting again. I've brought them up at least .2 and moved Death trap from 3rd to 2nd ( if I'm the only one voting at the moment ) and now I notice that x-wing is also going up in percent. :( > From: "Paul Van Wig" > > I just found out I can vote twice a day on one machine. I use a iMac with > bootcamp and Win xp and the web site thinks it is two machines! > > Paul Van Wig > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+pvanwig=charter.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+pvanwig=charter.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > Dave Yealy > Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 3:34 AM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] VOTE - as many times as you can > > Apocalyptic Rust Rockets 34.6% > > Death Trap 28.8% > > X-Wing Racer 24.5% > > Big Pig Warriors 9.4% > > DB5 Devils 2.7% > > Get out and vote, the Death Trap has fallen way behind. > > http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx > _______________________________________________ > robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 31 12:24:56 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:24:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] VOTE - as many times as you can References: <20070731175856.TTTS8273.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <011a01c7d3a0$196165b0$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] VOTE - as many times as you can Humph!! I'm sitting here repeatedly voting for death trap, deleting cookies, reloading the page and voting again. I've brought them up at least .2 and moved Death trap from 3rd to 2nd ( if I'm the only one voting at the moment ) and now I notice that x-wing is also going up in percent. :( ===================================== OK, I've got to get back to the office, but we are only down by 1/2 of a point. Let's show 'em who knows how to cheat. From froggi60 at gmail.com Tue Jul 31 12:30:33 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 11:30:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No Sale In-Reply-To: <7348a1363ea12034a1ab38a.20070730181431.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <7348a1363ea12034a1ab38a.20070730181431.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10707311130l144381cap67fc1781b172c421@mail.gmail.com> I despise SOBs like that guy. His 'word' means nothing and his hand shake even less. I had the same type experience on a Porsche 928...got a better offer. I even have the guy money to hold it until the weekend when I could come back with a trailer. Damn people anyway!!! On 7/30/07, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: > > A Few days ago I told the list I was buying a 73 RWA Midget. I was > supposed to go trailer it away today at 6PM. I just got a call from the > guy's wife. She says he won't be selling it to me because today someone > offered him more than he had promised it to me for. Apparently he did > not have the guts to call me himself. So, I'm sitting here with $1000 > cash in my pocket and nowhere to go. I just started my 2 week vacation > today and had not planned on going anywhere, but now... > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > _______________________________________________ > froggi60 at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jul 31 12:44:29 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:44:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No Sale References: <7348a1363ea12034a1ab38a.20070730181431.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <2ad6c6b10707311130l144381cap67fc1781b172c421@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001b01c7d3a2$d4818850$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > I had the same type experience on a Porsche 928...got a better offer. I > even have the guy money to hold it until the weekend when I could come > back > with a trailer. > > Damn people anyway!!! At least he spared you the ownership of a 928 (although I like the headlights...)! From racerbob70 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 31 12:48:42 2007 From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 11:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Red Bull Soapbox Entries Message-ID: <414029.36592.qm@web51603.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Okay the Death Trap is now ahead by .2 after voting 30 times, come on list..... BTW did anybody notice that when yu leave your cursor on the vote icon a window pops up that says "sumbit now"???? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Jul 31 12:51:59 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:51:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Red Bull Soapbox Entries In-Reply-To: <414029.36592.qm@web51603.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <414029.36592.qm@web51603.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: All this is like the pissing contests that one gets into with someone else on eBay. We need to wait until the final night, and waylay their asses On 7/31/07, Bob Van Kirk wrote: > Okay the Death Trap is now ahead by .2 after voting > 30 times, come on list..... > BTW did anybody notice that when yu leave your > cursor on the vote icon a window pops up that says > "sumbit now"???? > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search > that gives answers, not web links. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jul 31 13:07:03 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:07:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Red Bull Soapbox Entries Message-ID: <20070731190703.IWYN13659.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> You have a good point ... but I would hate to be the db5 devils. :) > From: "Brad Fornal" > > All this is like the pissing contests that one gets into with someone > else on eBay. We need to wait until the final night, and waylay their > asses > > On 7/31/07, Bob Van Kirk wrote: > > Okay the Death Trap is now ahead by .2 after voting > > 30 times, come on list..... > > BTW did anybody notice that when yu leave your > > cursor on the vote icon a window pops up that says > > "sumbit now"???? > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search > > that gives answers, not web links. > > http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC > > _______________________________________________ > > tequila.brad at gmail.com > > > > Edit your replies > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > > -- > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dmeadow at juno.com Tue Jul 31 13:22:38 2007 From: dmeadow at juno.com (dmeadow at juno.com) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:22:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 123 Ignition Message-ID: <20070731.142238.368.0.dmeadow@juno.com> Anyone out there have one in their Spridget? I need to know what car and model year the rotor and cap come from. I've got the Bosch part number from the manual, but the auto parts stores I've gone to can't work with that. They have to start with the car(s) it was originally manufactured for. I've tried the 123 website without success. Thanks! David From grday at btinternet.com Tue Jul 31 13:35:42 2007 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:35:42 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] VOTE - as many times as you can References: <20070731175856.TTTS8273.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <011a01c7d3a0$196165b0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <004f01c7d3a9$fc083ac0$c1099356@tairswork> Would it be too hard to write a macro and have a spare machine vote every 30 secs or so? Surely with the combined abilities on computers, someone in the group could do this. GRD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" To: "Robert Duquette" ; Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] VOTE - as many times as you can > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Duquette" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 12:58 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] VOTE - as many times as you can > > > Humph!! > > I'm sitting here repeatedly voting for death trap, deleting cookies, > reloading the page and voting again. > > I've brought them up at least .2 and moved Death trap from 3rd to 2nd ( if > I'm the only one voting at the moment ) and now I notice that x-wing is > also > going up in percent. :( > > ===================================== > > OK, I've got to get back to the office, but we are only down by 1/2 of a > point. > > Let's show 'em who knows how to cheat. > _______________________________________________ > grday at btinternet.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From type79 at ix.netcom.com Tue Jul 31 13:37:41 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:37:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] No Sale Message-ID: <19876078.1185910661904.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I've had similar experiences. Their "word" means nothing. Instead of being truthful and telling the person inquiring about the car: "It's sold.", they continue to field inquiries and show the car. That's why when you strike a deal, you have to get the car out of there immediately. It happens the other way around too. When I was selling my 7, a prospect made an appointment with me on a Sunday to come see and test-drive the car. He arrives with his entire family, and immediately informs that he has no interest in buying my car, just wanted to show his wife what one looks like because he is thinking about looking for one. I showed them the car, but if I had it to do all over again would have told him to take a hike. He contacted me some time later and I was happy to be able to tell him the car had been sold. jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ -----Original Message----- >From: WFO Herb >Sent: Jul 31, 2007 2:30 PM >To: "rrengineer at dslextreme.com" >Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No Sale > >I despise SOBs like that guy. His 'word' means nothing and his hand shake even less. > >I had the same type experience on a Porsche 928...got a better offer. I even have the guy money to hold it until the weekend when I could come back with a trailer. From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jul 31 14:17:02 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:17:02 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] VOTE - as many times as you can In-Reply-To: <004f01c7d3a9$fc083ac0$c1099356@tairswork> References: <20070731175856.TTTS8273.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <011a01c7d3a0$196165b0$6401a8c0@Larry> <004f01c7d3a9$fc083ac0$c1099356@tairswork> Message-ID: <5f00d9910707311317j814c1fayfe93f4f14f6b838e@mail.gmail.com> Someone had a good idea to wait until the last night and hit them hard. If we hit hard now then they will just hit back as hard as they can. We should just keep it close and then let fly with both barrels on the last night. Cheers, Derf From RobertDuquette at Sympatico.ca Tue Jul 31 14:45:40 2007 From: RobertDuquette at Sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:45:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] VOTE - as many times as you can In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910707311317j814c1fayfe93f4f14f6b838e@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070731175856.TTTS8273.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <011a01c7d3a0$196165b0$6401a8c0@Larry> <004f01c7d3a9$fc083ac0$c1099356@tairswork> <5f00d9910707311317j814c1fayfe93f4f14f6b838e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <011401c7d3b3$c1c9e7f0$6601a8c0@RobertDuquette> Ever wonder what resources they have at their disposal? -----Original Message----- From: derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] Sent: July 31, 2007 4:17 PM To: Guy R Day Cc: Larry Daniels; Robert Duquette; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] VOTE - as many times as you can Someone had a good idea to wait until the last night and hit them hard. If we hit hard now then they will just hit back as hard as they can. We should just keep it close and then let fly with both barrels on the last night. Cheers, Derf From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Tue Jul 31 15:34:07 2007 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:34:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Forward message from Daniel1312 References: Message-ID: <5125768C-20D9-4C2A-8BF1-2DA82C488A04@gerardsgarage.com> Daniel1312 at aol.com asked me to forward his message below to the list. Reply to Daniel as he is offlist currently Gerard > > > PS: I'm off list at present as I have weeks of evenings of work to > do to my book at present but if you get chance maybe you post this > message> > > For anyone who purchased a big water pump pulley from Daniel > can you e-mail him with what length of fan/drive belt you used and > whether this is for a dynamo or alternator and what size engine. > For anyone that wants a big pulley he has one left to sell. > > Thanks > Regards > > Daniel Daniel1312 at aol.com From peter at nosimport.com Tue Jul 31 15:42:48 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:42:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Forward message from Daniel1312 In-Reply-To: <5125768C-20D9-4C2A-8BF1-2DA82C488A04@gerardsgarage.com> References: <5125768C-20D9-4C2A-8BF1-2DA82C488A04@gerardsgarage.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070731164145.0372c978@nosimport.com> At 04:34 PM 7/31/2007, Gerard Chateauvieux wrote: >Daniel1312 at aol.com asked me to forward his message below to the list. > >Reply to Daniel as he is offlist currently >Gerard> > > PS: I'm off list at present as I have weeks of evenings of work to > > do to my book at present but if you get chance maybe you post this > > message> > > > > For anyone who purchased a big water pump pulley from Daniel > > can you e-mail him with what length of fan/drive belt you used and > > whether this is for a dynamo or alternator and what size engine. > > For anyone that wants a big pulley he has one left to sell. > > > > Thanks > > > Regards > > > > Daniel > >Daniel1312 at aol.com ===================== Great! Daniel send me one with the correct belt. Thanks Peter C == From lists at woozy.com Tue Jul 31 18:11:29 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:11:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] VOTE - as many times as you can In-Reply-To: <004f01c7d3a9$fc083ac0$c1099356@tairswork> References: <20070731175856.TTTS8273.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <011a01c7d3a0$196165b0$6401a8c0@Larry> <004f01c7d3a9$fc083ac0$c1099356@tairswork> Message-ID: <46AFCFB1.6000603@woozy.com> The CAPTCHA (little doohickey with the distorted letters and numbers) makes it difficult to script. Otherwise it would be a piece of cake..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAPTCHA Robert Weeks Bahama, NC 1970 MG Midget - No second gear 1969 MG Midget - Organ donor Guy R Day wrote: > Would it be too hard to write a macro and have a spare machine vote every 30 > secs or so? > Surely with the combined abilities on computers, someone in the group could > do this. > > GRD From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jul 31 18:17:56 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:17:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] VOTE - as many times as you can References: <20070731175856.TTTS8273.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca><011a01c7d3a0$196165b0$6401a8c0@Larry><004f01c7d3a9$fc083ac0$c1099356@tairswork> <46AFCFB1.6000603@woozy.com> Message-ID: <01d001c7d3d1$69a42860$0401a8c0@midget> > The CAPTCHA (little doohickey with the distorted letters and numbers) > makes it difficult to script. Otherwise it would be a piece of cake..... Exactly as it was intended. OTOH, a nice little macro that flushed the cookies and refreshed the page, selected deathtrap and moved the focus to the entry line for the captcha would be convenient... From nonrunningmgb at yahoo.com Tue Jul 31 18:56:40 2007 From: nonrunningmgb at yahoo.com (John Mac) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:56:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone try this (LBC Content)? In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070730115719.035ff6a8@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <478646.81928.qm@web56111.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hello Peter, My apoligies for insulting the intricacy and detail of the adjustable shock in the attached website. I'm sure a lot of R+D and testing went into it's design and manufacture. I must tell you it is a very clever deisgn. When I finally get tired of my current set up I may seriously consider purchasing a set from the experts. Thank you for your feed back, John MacDonald - I spell car with one r :) --- Peter C wrote: > At 08:11 AM 7/29/2007, John Mac wrote: > > >http://www.mgaguru.com/mgtech/suspensn/fs122.htm > >Looks like a bunch of bits from Pep Boys and > McMaster > >Car. > > > >John MacDonald > >Bedford, NH > > > >Running Topless MGB! :) > >59 Sprite :( > >------------------------------------------------------- > > > > John, > Let me help. > > It's McMaster Carr. 2 r's > > And actually, we copied what Armstrong > devised, but thought > casting new bodies un-necessary. Also, none were > ever made for the > front of an MGB or and MGA, (no room) which was part > of our > motivation. Other mods are required internally as > well. > > Heck, I'll even give you the part numbers > of the components. > > Peter C. > =========== > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php From pythias at pacifier.com Tue Jul 31 21:01:28 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:01:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap In-Reply-To: <20070723125808.OFHV18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20070723125808.OFHV18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <738338097.20070731200128@pacifier.com> Hello, http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx those CHEATERS! i had to vote about 20 times just to keep up with those DOGS! my technique (firefox) is to click on the link in email. I have my cookies turned off!...vote, click link, close old window, enter "gripka?" .. vote, click link..... -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite If love of money is the root of all evil, why do churches want it? From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 31 21:05:18 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 22:05:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap References: <20070723125808.OFHV18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <738338097.20070731200128@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <020001c7d3e8$cb191300$6401a8c0@Larry> Bill, I think we have taken this on as a Spridget (or all LBC's) project by now. It seems the MG list is just as avid about winning this thing. BIG blitzkrieg on the 8th. Larry D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill L" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Death Trap Hello, http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx those CHEATERS! i had to vote about 20 times just to keep up with those DOGS! my technique (firefox) is to click on the link in email. I have my cookies turned off!...vote, click link, close old window, enter "gripka?" .. vote, click link..... -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite If love of money is the root of all evil, why do churches want it? _______________________________________________ ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Jul 31 20:57:39 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:57:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [9issa] Funny Country song Message-ID: <380-2200783125739671@earthlink.net> no trains, dogs, pickup trucks or jail or Divorce..........But a great country song..... no trains, dogs, pickup trucks or jail or Divorce..........Then it ain't country! May be what y'all call country up there boy. BUT IT AIN'T!!!!! (probly never lived there nether...nuther one of them counterfeit Confederates) ----- Original Message ----- From: JB at comcast To: EDatJust Sent: 7/31/2007 4:15:11 PM Subject: Fw: [9issa] Funny Country song To: 9issa at justbrits.com Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 5:27 PM Subject: [9issa] Funny Country song This has to be one of the funniest country songs ever written.......not the perfect one mind you.....no trains, dogs, pickup trucks or jail or Divorce..........But a great country song..... You'll need sound to appreciate this one. Click here: ~ The Big One ~ Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com. _______________________________________________ 9issa mailing list 9issa at justbrits.com http://justbrits.com/mailman/listinfo/9issa_justbrits.com From sprite58 at hotmail.com Tue Jul 31 21:31:30 2007 From: sprite58 at hotmail.com (r moses) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 22:31:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] revolving Sprite Message-ID: Have an urge to revolve a Sprite at SJ08. I have had this urge for about 15 years or so. Just missed a contraption that was sold by the Antique Car Club of America here in Hershey a couple of months ago. No idea of how much it went for. I have not Googled it yet. Any suggestions for something very small, light weight, inconspicuous that can be draped with nice cloth to hide it and NOT cause any possibility of damage to the Sprite it is revolving? Oh yes, it cant destroy the convention center flooring/rugs or walk around the building on its own. Can I build something and have a couple of them? A fail safe switch pull string would be nice extra too. Sorry about the clone double messages. _________________________________________________________________ http://liveearth.msn.com