[Spridgets] Please define idiot...

[Larry Macy]

My 2WD 2003 Dodge Dakota had ABS, but only on the rear. Could not get  
the damn thing to slide sideways fur nuttin' Well, except on ice ;-)

Also had a limited slip. Both were std in 2 WD, but not the 4WD models.

Larry

On Dec 30, 2007, at 1:31 PM, Jim Juhas wrote:

> Instead of spending money on the optional ABS over the past several  
> years, I instead was treated to driving school w/ Skip Barber at  
> LRP.  But I knew the day would come when tech would catch up to me.   
> My new F250 has ABS.  I think it's standard now.  No need to test it  
> yet.
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From:  Larry Macy <lmacy at phillymgclub.com>
> Subj:  Re: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
> Date:  Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:59 am
> Size:  1K
> To:  Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
> cc:  "'Spridgets'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>
> In fact, ABS equipped cars tend to have longer stopping distance on
> dry pavement. Not sure about ice, never owned a car that had it.
>
> It's only function, AFAIK, is directional control and control in a
> panic stop. It serves no other function, it certainly is not about
> stopping shorter.
>
> Larry
>
> On Dec 30, 2007, at 10:56 AM, Robert Duquette wrote:
>
>> Cars don't drive themselves.  I drive an older Subaru ( 2001 ) and
>> with
>> snows on ... it's the greatest car I've ever driven.  I'm not in the
>> financial league to buy the latest and greatest, but to me it's  
>> great.
>> Brake wise, I learned this fall that performance summer tires on the
>> "slippery as" snow aren't a good thing.  My understanding is that
>> ABS does
>> not stop you faster, but allows you to keep some directional control.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Lieb
>>
>>> ABS works on speed difference between the wheels.That's one reason
>>> why
>>> it doesn't go off at a dead stop. Lock 'em up at 0mph, and then
>>> start to
>>> slide, and it'll do you no good. But if you let go and start  
>>> rolling,
>>> and then apply the brakes, and the wheels slip, voila, ABS!
>>
>> All well and good, Chris, but on ice where none of the four wheels  
>> has
>> any traction, ABS does ABSolutely no good at all. Likewise, having a
>> Subaru WRX STi with all the Torsens in the world does you no good
>> when you high-center it on a snowdift, but it certainly was highly
>> entertaining for the rest of us to watch the Polish dude try to  
>> figure
>> out why his "invincible" car was not moving ;-)
>> David Lieb
>> _