From pilotrob at msn.com  Sat Dec  1 05:45:56 2007
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:45:56 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Tech section:Gerard's Garage
Message-ID: <BAY116-DAV5EB467BC886B9EA51E564D4720@phx.gbl>

"Thank you, Gerard."

I "second" this for sure. 

CapBob

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Sat Dec  1 06:04:43 2007
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 08:04:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Tech section:Gerard's Garage
In-Reply-To: <E4B4FFF4-BC45-454B-B177-7B37D45F905E@gerardsgarage.com>
References: <E4B4FFF4-BC45-454B-B177-7B37D45F905E@gerardsgarage.com>
Message-ID: <68vr7k$1vv9hi@email.mtu.edu>

Ah, the Stack-O-Matic is back!  Interesting!

At 01:34 AM 12/1/2007, Gerard Chateauvieux wrote:

Tim Collins
1966 AH Sprite 

From JMFarley50 at aol.com  Sat Dec  1 08:05:42 2007
From: JMFarley50 at aol.com (JMFarley50 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 10:05:42 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Tech section:Gerard's Garage
Message-ID: <bda.1cf64c94.3482d246@aol.com>

Gerard, first time I saw this.  Looks very helpful.
 
Thanks, John
(61 Bugeye)



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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Sat Dec  1 08:33:52 2007
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 07:33:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Frogeye/Bugeye values
In-Reply-To: <20071130225353.E30BB1879C8@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <892720.58151.qm@web36813.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

A lot of people who don't consder alterations (particularly those that improve performance) a bad thing - include me in that crowd.  Many of our little cars started getting altered as soon as they found their first homes - why fight it?  Of course, I enjoy a nice fenderless flat-head Deuce more than a perfectly resored '32 Ford too.  I certainly appreciate them both, just one more than the other.
   - David

David Ramsey <dwramsey at att.net> wrote:
  I guess it was a couple of years ago that BJ sold a resale red 1275/5-speed
disc car for over 30k. In the same sale an Iris blue 948/snoothcase drum car
restored to the same level sold for less than 15k. During the same period I
couldn't get 6k for my all original 61 in its Iris blue factory paint.
Crash


<money.>>

Why, Buster?? CLONES of Muscle Cars go for UN-believable amounts!!
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From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Sat Dec  1 10:14:07 2007
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 09:14:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Tech section:Gerard's Garage
In-Reply-To: <BAY116-DAV5EB467BC886B9EA51E564D4720@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <580897.3145.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Bob - i seventh it - Who eight it?.....LOL
   
  Great information at Gerards site.
   
  Many thanks for your hard work.......
   
  Vigil
  SoCal

"Robert E. Shlafer" <pilotrob at msn.com> wrote:
  "Thank you, Gerard."

I "second" this for sure. 

CapBob
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Dec  1 14:15:52 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 16:15:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 67 Progress if anybody cares
In-Reply-To: <235947.7669.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <235947.7669.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4751CF08.1020507@comcast.net>

Ron Soave wrote:

> My 60,000 BTU Modine heater went in today! 

Bite me

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Dec  1 14:57:35 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 16:57:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] widows car
In-Reply-To: <05b101c83382$79b0e3e0$6d12aba0$@com>
References: <05b101c83382$79b0e3e0$6d12aba0$@com>
Message-ID: <4751D8CF.3050003@comcast.net>

Wm. Severin Thompson wrote:
> Mary's looking for suggestions for tire choice for her MKI Midget 

Rubber ones?


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sat Dec  1 14:44:24 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 13:44:24 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] 67 Progress if anybody cares
In-Reply-To: <4751CF08.1020507@comcast.net>
References: <235947.7669.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4751CF08.1020507@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4751D5B8.1010804@earthlink.net>

<>Ron Soave wrote: "My 60,000 BTU Modine heater went in today!"
Frank Clarici wrote:  "Bite me"

OK, you guys, KNOCK IT OFF!!!  I don't care if you ARE Italian, we will 
have no love nibbles on the ear in this forum!!!!

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Dec  1 15:09:21 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 17:09:21 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Frogeye/Bugeye values
In-Reply-To: <380-2200711530184151312@earthlink.net>
References: <380-2200711530184151312@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4751DB91.1080804@comcast.net>

Robert Bruce Evans wrote:
>   (I really can't see Frank paying $4K for a basket case.)
> 

I just paid the most ever for a basket case.
The 67 that I "had to have" because my first Sprite was a 67, cost me 
$600. A bit steep but I "had to have it".
And I could not find another true 67 anywhere on the internet.
So I paid top dollar.
Now a $4000 bugeye project is crazy.
I only have $4000 into my 58 Bugeye and it is very pristine but has 
those price reducing items like a 1275, 5 speed, and disc brakes.
So I should have saved the original drum brake setup?
I do have a set or 2 of drums, lots of smoothcases, and a 948.
I can take the more expensive "goodies" out of it and replace them with 
the original stuff and if somebody wants to give me $35,000 for it, come 
NOW! Heck, I'll be extemely happy with $25,000 especially if I can keep 
the discs, 1275, and 5 speed.
I'll just make another one just like it for another 4k and buy another 
Jag or 2 so I have different colors to choose depending on my mood or 
the color of my shirt that day.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sat Dec  1 15:14:52 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 16:14:52 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] widows car
References: <05b101c83382$79b0e3e0$6d12aba0$@com>
	<4751D8CF.3050003@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <041601c83467$98cbfb80$0401a8c0@midget>

>> Mary's looking for suggestions for tire choice for her MKI Midget

Tire Rack lists nothing for 145/anything/13 that I can find.

155/80SR15 Dunlop SP 40 A/S for $47 each
155/80TR13 Kumho Solus KR21 for $35 each
155/80TR13 Kumho Power Star 758 for $27 each
165/70SR13 Yokohama Y379B for $53 each
165/70TR13 Sumitomo HTR T4 for $41 each
Bear in mind that you would still need to get them mounted and balanced.

Please do not consider this an endorsement of Tire Rack, merely a reflection 
of some of the sixes available.
David Lieb 

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sat Dec  1 14:57:52 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 13:57:52 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Tires
Message-ID: <380-220071261215752859@earthlink.net>

Flounder wrote:  "Mary's looking for suggestions for tire choice for her
MKI Midget"
Frank Clarici wrote:  "Rubber ones?"

Rubber?  You mean that stuff that used to come from trees in ASIA?  You
probably mean a styrene/butadiene copolymer to be used for automobile tires
is lowered in its rolling resistance by blending it with carbon black and
the following components (A) and (B): (A) a dinitrodiamine compound
represented by the following formula (I): ##STR1## wherein X is a divalent
organic group such as an alkylene, R.sup.1 is hydrogen or an organic group
such as an alkyl, provided that two nitrogen atoms linking through X may
further link through R.sup.1, and R.sup.2 and R.sup.3 are each hydrogen or
an alkyl, provided that R.sup.2 and R.sup.3 may conjointly form a ring; and
(B) a sulfide compound selected from dibenzothiazyl disulfide,
tetralkylthiuram disulfide, and alkyl- or hydroxy-substituted phenol
sulfide resin. The dinitrodiamine compound (A) and the sulfide compound (B)
are added simultaneously together with the carbon black in a first kneading
step of a high temperature.

Got that?

(If so, explain it to me, cause it is all a bunch of dog dirt to my simple
mind!)

Buster

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sat Dec  1 15:22:15 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 17:22:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] widows car
In-Reply-To: <041601c83467$98cbfb80$0401a8c0@midget>
References: <05b101c83382$79b0e3e0$6d12aba0$@com><4751D8CF.3050003@comcast.net>
	<041601c83467$98cbfb80$0401a8c0@midget>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP10AFAF361346803B9DADE1B8720@CEZ.ICE>

>> some of the sixes available 

And what is the sixth one?  ;)

-----Original Message-----

>> Mary's looking for suggestions for tire choice for her MKI Midget

Tire Rack lists nothing for 145/anything/13 that I can find.

155/80SR15 Dunlop SP 40 A/S for $47 each
155/80TR13 Kumho Solus KR21 for $35 each
155/80TR13 Kumho Power Star 758 for $27 each
165/70SR13 Yokohama Y379B for $53 each
165/70TR13 Sumitomo HTR T4 for $41 each
Bear in mind that you would still need to get them mounted and balanced.

Please do not consider this an endorsement of Tire Rack, merely a reflection

of some of the sixes available.
David Lieb 

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sat Dec  1 15:27:42 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 16:27:42 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] widows car
References: <05b101c83382$79b0e3e0$6d12aba0$@com><4751D8CF.3050003@comcast.net><041601c83467$98cbfb80$0401a8c0@midget>
	<BAYC1-PASMTP10AFAF361346803B9DADE1B8720@CEZ.ICE>
Message-ID: <042001c83469$643c8f40$0401a8c0@midget>

>>> some of the sixes available 
 
> And what is the sixth one?  ;)

Gotta guess on that one ;-)

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Sat Dec  1 15:31:06 2007
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 14:31:06 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] widows car
Message-ID: <0bfd01c83469$dd0100a0$0d6a010a@mail2world.com>

FWIW, I have a set of the Khumo  Power Stars on my Tercel, and they're a
pretty decent tire. 
 
-=Chris

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: David Lieb [dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com]
Sent: 12/1/2007 5:17:52 PM
To: wsthompson at thicko.com
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] widows car 

>> Mary's looking for suggestions for tire choice for her MKI Midget 

Tire Rack lists nothing for 145/anything/13 that I can find. 


155/80TR13 Kumho Power Star 758 for $27 each 


Please do not consider this an endorsement of Tire Rack, merely a
reflection 
of some of the sixes available. 
David Lieb 
_______________________________________________ 
c 
. 

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Sat Dec  1 15:35:25 2007
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 17:35:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] widows car
In-Reply-To: <05b101c83382$79b0e3e0$6d12aba0$@com>
References: <05b101c83382$79b0e3e0$6d12aba0$@com>
Message-ID: <68vr7k$203h51@email.mtu.edu>

Verdestein's in 145 size.

These may be a bit pricey for Mary. I'm guessing she will only use 
the car occasionally and that tires aren't that much of a 
consideration for her. The Kumho's  David mentioned seem to be a good 
price / value - maybe those. I think Sears has them.

Tires Unlimited, Inc in OH
www.tiresunlimited.com
145R13 Vredestein Sprint+ $53.30 (13 lbs.) each x 5 = $266.5 (65 lbs.)
ER12/13 radial tubes $7.06 (1 lbs.) each x 5 = $35.30 (5 lbs.)
Shipping 70 pounds to Midland, MI is $27.65
Total delivered price is $329.45


At 01:54 PM 11/30/2007, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote:
>Mary's looking for suggestions for tire choice for her MKI Midget (wire
>wheels).
>Wm. Severin Thompson

Tim Collins
1966 AH Sprite 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sat Dec  1 15:36:50 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 17:36:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] widows car
In-Reply-To: <042001c83469$643c8f40$0401a8c0@midget>
References: <05b101c83382$79b0e3e0$6d12aba0$@com><4751D8CF.3050003@comcast.net><041601c83467$98cbfb80$0401a8c0@midget>
	<BAYC1-PASMTP10AFAF361346803B9DADE1B8720@CEZ.ICE>
	<042001c83469$643c8f40$0401a8c0@midget>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP134D3C897D725F12F9C8D7B8720@CEZ.ICE>

There's Vredestein here:
http://britishwirewheel.com/tires.htm


-----Original Message-----
From: David Lieb [mailto:dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com] 


>>> some of the sixes available 
 
> And what is the sixth one?  ;)

Gotta guess on that one ;-)

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Dec  1 15:34:26 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 17:34:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Tires
In-Reply-To: <380-220071261215752859@earthlink.net>
References: <380-220071261215752859@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4751E172.5060307@comcast.net>

Robert Bruce Evans wrote:
> Flounder wrote:  "Mary's looking for suggestions for tire choice for her
> MKI Midget"
> Frank Clarici wrote:  "Rubber ones?"
> 
> Rubber?  You mean that stuff that used to come from trees in ASIA?  You
> probably mean a styrene/butadiene copolymer ................

Excuse me, I stand corrected.
So is this the same stuff they use to make the "rubber like" grommets 
and gaskets for out LBCs? If so, pollution eats it in a month.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From biffjones at verizon.net  Sat Dec  1 15:45:31 2007
From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 17:45:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] widows car, NOW Mary's tyres
References: <05b101c83382$79b0e3e0$6d12aba0$@com><4751D8CF.3050003@comcast.net><041601c83467$98cbfb80$0401a8c0@midget>
	<BAYC1-PASMTP10AFAF361346803B9DADE1B8720@CEZ.ICE>
Message-ID: <00d801c8346b$e14a0a10$2f01a8c0@dell1>

Try good ols Sears.  They have tires from cheap to expensive in 145 x 13.

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sat Dec  1 15:30:26 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 14:30:26 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Tires
Message-ID: <380-220071261223026765@earthlink.net>

Frank Clarici  wrote:  "So is this the same stuff they use to make the
"rubber like" grommets and gaskets for out LBCs? If so, pollution eats it
in a month."

And pretty soon you will be getting your tires with a 30 minute or 30
miles, whichever comes first, guarantee!!!!

RB

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Dec  1 15:53:23 2007
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 14:53:23 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Frogeye/Bugeye values
In-Reply-To: <4751DB91.1080804@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <511280.86690.qm@web30509.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
> I just paid the most ever for a basket case.
> The 67 that I "had to have" because my first Sprite
> was a 67, cost me 
> $600

Plus $300 in gas and tolls, $100 in food, $???? in
lost wages 'cause you drove 1/2 way across country to
pick up instead of working that day...

I know, bite me....

Ron


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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sat Dec  1 16:03:14 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 17:03:14 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Tires
References: <380-220071261215752859@earthlink.net>
	<4751E172.5060307@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <043801c8346e$5acfe4c0$0401a8c0@midget>

> So is this the same stuff they use to make the "rubber like" grommets 
> and gaskets for out LBCs? If so, pollution eats it in a month.

Nope. I think that they are using natural rubber for those grommets. 
If you were old enough to remember natural rubber, you would also 
remember that there were lots of plantations of it planted in Malaysia 
and other Eastern countries, as well as the fact that the stuff does not 
tolerate petroleum products like oil very well.
David Lieb

From refisk at chartermi.net  Sat Dec  1 16:06:27 2007
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 18:06:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Frogeye/Bugeye values
References: <511280.86690.qm@web30509.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <09af01c8346e$cd977040$6401a8c0@refisk>

Only $90 for food.  I bought Frank and Frankie breakfast just before they 
picked up the car.  :-)

Rick


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
To: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>; <b-evans at earthlink.net>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Frogeye/Bugeye values


> Plus $300 in gas and tolls, $100 in food, $???? in
> lost wages ...................
>
> I know, bite me....
>
> Ron

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat Dec  1 16:14:07 2007
From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 17:14:07 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Frogeye/Bugeye values
References: <511280.86690.qm@web30509.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<09af01c8346e$cd977040$6401a8c0@refisk>
Message-ID: <07cd01c8346f$e0189220$6501a8c0@actualshop>

<<I bought Frank and Frankie breakfast just before they
picked up the car. >>

Cheapskate!!  10 bucks for breakfest, Rick??  Oh the shame of it all!!!

<G>

From MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com  Sat Dec  1 16:17:23 2007
From: MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com (MICHAEL CARPENTER)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 18:17:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Frogeye/Bugeye values
References: <511280.86690.qm@web30509.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<09af01c8346e$cd977040$6401a8c0@refisk>
Message-ID: <004c01c83470$54e22f30$04f6f904@D1PWFG61>

Hey Rick,

I gave you a pink Sprite body and rims and all you gave me was a hard time. 
I didn't get any breakfast :^(.

Mike C
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick Fisk" <refisk at chartermi.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Frogeye/Bugeye values


> Only $90 for food.  I bought Frank and Frankie breakfast just before they
> picked up the car.  :-)
>
> Rick
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
> To: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>; <b-evans at earthlink.net>
> Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 5:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Frogeye/Bugeye values
>
>
>> Plus $300 in gas and tolls, $100 in food, $???? in
>> lost wages ...................
>>
>> I know, bite me....
>>
>> Ron

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Dec  1 16:21:50 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 17:21:50 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] widows car
In-Reply-To: <041601c83467$98cbfb80$0401a8c0@midget>
References: <05b101c83382$79b0e3e0$6d12aba0$@com>
	<4751D8CF.3050003@comcast.net> <041601c83467$98cbfb80$0401a8c0@midget>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712011521i2a93c6b1ja92746bb0aa71c3d@mail.gmail.com>

I put a set of the Kumho Power Star 758 155/80TR13's on my 68 wire
wheel midget. They look great and perform very well. You can't beat
the price.  When they mount and balance, be sure they put the balance
weights on the INSIDE of the wire wheels!
-
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

On 12/1/07, David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com> wrote:
> >> Mary's looking for suggestions for tire choice for her MKI Midget
>
> Tire Rack lists nothing for 145/anything/13 that I can find.
>
> 155/80SR15 Dunlop SP 40 A/S for $47 each
> 155/80TR13 Kumho Solus KR21 for $35 each
> 155/80TR13 Kumho Power Star 758 for $27 each
> 165/70SR13 Yokohama Y379B for $53 each
> 165/70TR13 Sumitomo HTR T4 for $41 each
> Bear in mind that you would still need to get them mounted and balanced.
>
> Please do not consider this an endorsement of Tire Rack, merely a reflection
> of some of the sixes available.
> David Lieb
> _______________________________________________
> bmwwxman at gmail.com
>
> Edit your replies
>
> http://www.team.net/archive
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets
>


-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From refisk at chartermi.net  Sat Dec  1 16:22:42 2007
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 18:22:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Frogeye/Bugeye values
References: <511280.86690.qm@web30509.mail.mud.yahoo.com><09af01c8346e$cd977040$6401a8c0@refisk>
	<07cd01c8346f$e0189220$6501a8c0@actualshop>
Message-ID: <09da01c83471$1254b830$6401a8c0@refisk>

One of the benefits of living in a small town - low price large portion 
homestyle cooking and low prices.  None of us was able to finish the meal. 
:-)

Rick


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <shop at justbrits.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Frogeye/Bugeye values


> <<I bought Frank and Frankie breakfast just before they
> picked up the car. >>
>
> Cheapskate!!  10 bucks for breakfest, Rick??  Oh the shame of it all!!!
>
> <G>
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Dec  1 16:24:06 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 17:24:06 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Tires
In-Reply-To: <043801c8346e$5acfe4c0$0401a8c0@midget>
References: <380-220071261215752859@earthlink.net>
	<4751E172.5060307@comcast.net> <043801c8346e$5acfe4c0$0401a8c0@midget>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712011524m4d1ed2acr5bbc07ced1337fff@mail.gmail.com>

It also hates Chinese and Italians....   ;-)
Jim

On 12/1/07, David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com> wrote:
> > So is this the same stuff they use to make the "rubber like" grommets
> > and gaskets for out LBCs? If so, pollution eats it in a month.
>
> Nope. I think that they are using natural rubber for those grommets.
> If you were old enough to remember natural rubber, you would also
> remember that there were lots of plantations of it planted in Malaysia
> and other Eastern countries, as well as the fact that the stuff does not
> tolerate petroleum products like oil very well.

From refisk at chartermi.net  Sat Dec  1 16:25:07 2007
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 18:25:07 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Frogeye/Bugeye values
References: <511280.86690.qm@web30509.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<09af01c8346e$cd977040$6401a8c0@refisk>
	<004c01c83470$54e22f30$04f6f904@D1PWFG61>
Message-ID: <09df01c83471$6954e7e0$6401a8c0@refisk>

We didn't get to your dad's house until about 4 PM.  Too late for breakfast 
and too early for supper.  Plus we had to turn around and drive 13 hours 
home.  :-)

Rick

PS - Pinkie is still a work in progress.  I'm not able to keep up with 
Frank - lol


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MICHAEL CARPENTER" <MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com>
To: "Rick Fisk" <refisk at chartermi.net>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Frogeye/Bugeye values


> Hey Rick,
>
> I gave you a pink Sprite body and rims and all you gave me was a hard 
> time. I didn't get any breakfast :^(.
>
> Mike C

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sat Dec  1 16:32:12 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 18:32:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Colorado weather
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP038DA6C00E577CDE02F5E1B8720@CEZ.ICE>

I take it that Colorado isn't getting good weather ( and they're not keeping
it ). 

 

 

 

major winter storm over Colorado is tracking northeastward towards southern
Ontario

 

.


Regions over eastern Ontario including Ottawa and Gatineau will not see snow
beginning until Sunday morning with the heaviest snow falling Sunday night
into Monday morning. The snow will be mixed with ice pellets and possibly
freezing rain especially in the Ottawa Valley. Snowfall amounts of 10 to 15
centimetres is possible by Monday morning with an additional 10 to 15 by
Monday evening.

Travel will be dangerous across Ontario as the snow may possibly be heavy at
times which can cause brief whiteout conditions. Furthermore roads will be
snow covered and slippery due to freezing rain and ice pellets.

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sat Dec  1 16:19:17 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 15:19:17 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Tires
Message-ID: <380-220071261231917406@earthlink.net>

Jim Johnson wrote:  "It also hates Chinese and Italians....   ;-)"

Oh, you are cruel!!!!  Funny as hell, too!!!!!

Silas

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sat Dec  1 16:23:01 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 15:23:01 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Colorado weather
Message-ID: <380-22007126123231453@earthlink.net>

Robert Duquette   "I take it that Colorado isn't getting good weather ( and
they're not keeping it ). major winter storm over Colorado is tracking
northeastward towards southern Ontario...Travel will be dangerous across
Ontario as the snow may possibly be heavy at times which can cause brief
whiteout conditions. Furthermore roads will be snow covered and slippery
due to freezing rain and ice pellets."

And here in Southern California we are looking at 77 to 79 this week!  Go
figure!

RBE

From gmeyer01 at snet.net  Sat Dec  1 16:48:13 2007
From: gmeyer01 at snet.net (The Mayers)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 15:48:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool in CT
Message-ID: <955495.25071.qm@web83816.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

The sun was out in CT today so I decided to take the Bugeye out for a spin.  I used a damp towel to wipe off the dust on the car and threw it on a bush to dry.  After about 40 minutes of fun I parked the car in the garage and went to get the towel.  It was frozen solid!  I knew it was cool outside but when I looked at the thermometer it read 26F.  I guess I will have to put the top back on and dig out the side curtains for my next spin.  Gary in CT  '61BE

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sat Dec  1 16:52:03 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 18:52:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Colorado weather
In-Reply-To: <380-22007126123231453@earthlink.net>
References: <380-22007126123231453@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP135DF49AE3188A62230548B8720@CEZ.ICE>

You know ... if you keep talking like that ... you're just going to end up
with a lot of "us" down there.  Is that what you really want?

RD

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Bruce Evans [mailto:b-evans at earthlink.net] 
Sent: December 1, 2007 6:23 PM
To: Robert Duquette; Spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: RE: Colorado weather

Robert Duquette   "I take it that Colorado isn't getting good weather ( and
they're not keeping it ). major winter storm over Colorado is tracking
northeastward towards southern Ontario...Travel will be dangerous across
Ontario as the snow may possibly be heavy at times which can cause brief
whiteout conditions. Furthermore roads will be snow covered and slippery
due to freezing rain and ice pellets."

And here in Southern California we are looking at 77 to 79 this week!  Go
figure!

RBE

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Sat Dec  1 16:53:17 2007
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 17:53:17 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Colorado weather
In-Reply-To: <380-22007126123231453@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <200712012353.lB1NrEU0010483@ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com>

Yeah, we got wet snow and now ice here in SE WI.  It can't make up its mind,
it changes every 10 minutes.  

LBC content is that car covers and tarps were on sale at Menards (regional
hardware chain just a slight notch above HF), so the sprite has a warm cover
and a tent as of this morning before it turned winter.

Fired up my little two cycle Toro snow thing I found on a curb this
summer-impressive little thing.

Chris
66MKIII
Brookfield, WI

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Robert Bruce Evans
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 5:23 PM
To: Robert Duquette; Spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Colorado weather

Robert Duquette   "I take it that Colorado isn't getting good weather ( and
they're not keeping it ). major winter storm over Colorado is tracking
northeastward towards southern Ontario...Travel will be dangerous across
Ontario as the snow may possibly be heavy at times which can cause brief
whiteout conditions. Furthermore roads will be snow covered and slippery
due to freezing rain and ice pellets."

And here in Southern California we are looking at 77 to 79 this week!  Go
figure!

RBE

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sat Dec  1 16:40:30 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 15:40:30 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Colorado weather
Message-ID: <380-220071261234030640@earthlink.net>

Robert Duquette wrote:  "You know ... if you keep talking like that ...
you're just going to end up with a lot of "us" down there.  Is that what
you really want?"

Hey, if we have an open date, you're welcome.  The mayor of Anaheim and the
Chamber of Commerce hate people like us.  "These people," said the mayor in
the newspaper, "are hurting the economy of Anaheim [by depriving the hotels
and motels business]."  You see, our dastardly deed is welcoming people to
and stay with us.  No charge.  A mile west of Disneyland, watch the
fireworks from our pool and spa, use our VW van, eat our food.  One year,
we had a steady stream of visitors from the middle of March until the end
of August.  I would take one family to one terminal at LAX, then pick up
another family at another terminal!  We just happen to think people are
great, and thoroughly enjoy having them here.  Last May, Frank and I stayed
with other Spridget folks, Alan and Pam East-Jones and Jim and Vicki Lodder
while we were in England.  Later, they came over here and stayed with us.  
I have never figured out how much money and taxes we "cost" the hotels and
motels, as well as the City of Anaheim.  But damn, its fun!

Buster Evans

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sat Dec  1 17:07:35 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 18:07:35 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Colorado weather
References: <380-220071261234030640@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <11f501c83477$57ea3ae0$0401a8c0@midget>

> . . .  One year,
> we had a steady stream of visitors from the middle of March until the end
> of August.  I would take one family to one terminal at LAX, then pick up
> another family at another terminal!  

Did they happen to look Hispanic? ;-)

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sat Dec  1 17:11:34 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 18:11:34 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Colorado weather
References: <200712012353.lB1NrEU0010483@ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <11fa01c83477$e69a3ec0$0401a8c0@midget>

> Fired up my little two cycle Toro snow thing I found on a curb this
> summer-impressive little thing.

It started snowing lightly (had to look twice to see a flake) this
morning, then tried to get serious for a while. Not enough to
fire up the 8hp 2-stage walk-behind I picked up off the curb
a month or so ago ;-) Just looked at the forecast here in Palatine, 
and they say the temps are going to be steadily climbing until 
6am tomorrow... go figure.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Dec  1 17:19:01 2007
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 16:19:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Colorado weather
In-Reply-To: <380-220071261234030640@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <696676.17855.qm@web30509.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- Robert Bruce Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:
> another family at another terminal!  We just happen
> to think people are
> great, and thoroughly enjoy having them 

I've been to Buster's many times, and can vouch for
his enthusiasm. In fact, Buster has the heart of a
little boy. In a jar on his desk.

Ron
(Apologies to Stephen King, noted lurker)


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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sat Dec  1 17:23:56 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 18:23:56 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Colorado weather
References: <696676.17855.qm@web30509.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <120001c83479$a07f17b0$0401a8c0@midget>

> I've been to Buster's many times, and can vouch for
> his enthusiasm. In fact, Buster has the heart of a
> little boy. In a jar on his desk.

Oh great, now we get all the Dahmer and Donner 
recipes...

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sat Dec  1 18:37:20 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 17:37:20 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Colorado weather
Message-ID: <380-22007120213720906@earthlink.net>

From: David Lieb wrote:  "Did they happen to look Hispanic? ;-)"

No, they had tickets for O'Hare.

RBE

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sat Dec  1 18:49:58 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 17:49:58 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Colorado weather
Message-ID: <380-22007120214958562@earthlink.net>

 Ron Soave wrote: "In fact, Buster has the heart of a little boy. In a jar
on his desk."

You're lucky!  I haven't been able to find a jar big enough for yours!

 "(Apologies to Stephen King, noted lurker)"

Oh, does he have a Spridget?

Silas

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Dec  1 21:08:25 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 23:08:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Frogeye/Bugeye values
In-Reply-To: <09da01c83471$1254b830$6401a8c0@refisk>
References: <511280.86690.qm@web30509.mail.mud.yahoo.com><09af01c8346e$cd977040$6401a8c0@refisk>
	<07cd01c8346f$e0189220$6501a8c0@actualshop>
	<09da01c83471$1254b830$6401a8c0@refisk>
Message-ID: <47522FB9.5070702@comcast.net>

Rick Fisk wrote:
> One of the benefits of living in a small town - low price large portion 
> homestyle cooking and low prices.  None of us was able to finish the meal. 

For sure! The best breakfast I had in a long time.
Too much bacon is an understatement.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Dec  1 21:15:23 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 23:15:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool in CT
In-Reply-To: <955495.25071.qm@web83816.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <955495.25071.qm@web83816.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4752315B.7090909@comcast.net>

I too put on my red with white trim santa's cap and went about in the 
Bugeye today. I had all the kids waving and ladys beeping.
It was a bit brisk with temps in the 30s. But the top is still off and I 
really should put some antifreeze in the radiator since it has only 
water since the May head gasket failure.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com  Sat Dec  1 21:13:53 2007
From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 23:13:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Affordable Ferrari on CraigsList
Message-ID: <13887532.1196568833898.JavaMail.root@wmvirt55>

http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/car/495732757.html

NFI, just looks cool!
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1975 Midget - trailerparked queen

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Dec  1 21:28:35 2007
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 20:28:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool in CT
In-Reply-To: <4752315B.7090909@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <465597.83029.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
> It was a bit brisk with temps in the 30s. But the
> top is still off 

Game over here. Sprites and Alfa are done unless
there's a few huge December rains (like last year).
The town of Roscoe threw out the ceremonial first
salt-chunk of Winter around 10 am this morning.

Ron


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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sat Dec  1 21:41:20 2007
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 22:41:20 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Tech section:Gerard's Garage
In-Reply-To: <580897.3145.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <580897.3145.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <A8B5F9BE-E9D8-4C21-B637-6A97450F130C@comcast.net>

I "ate" it..

Thanks Gerard!

Lester


On Dec 1, 2007, at 11:14 AM, <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com>  
<uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Bob - i seventh it - Who eight it?.....LOL
>
>   Great information at Gerards site.
>
>   Many thanks for your hard work.......
>
>   Vigil
>   SoCal
>
> "Robert E. Shlafer" <pilotrob at msn.com> wrote:
>   "Thank you, Gerard."
>
> I "second" this for sure.
>
> CapBob

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Dec  1 21:58:29 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 23:58:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool in CT
In-Reply-To: <465597.83029.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <465597.83029.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <47523B75.8010707@comcast.net>

Ron Soave wrote:

> Game over here. Sprites and Alfa are done unless
> there's a few huge December rains (like last year).
> The town of Roscoe threw out the ceremonial first
> salt-chunk of Winter around 10 am this morning.

So this means you park the car worth 10 grand, the car you already know 
how to replace rusty panels on, and drive around in the "new" car worth 
30 grand, the car you wouldn't try to fix if you life depended on it?

Sort of like towing the 20,000 dollar car to a show with a rig worth 
50,000. Go figure.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sat Dec  1 22:09:53 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 21:09:53 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool in CT
Message-ID: <380-220071202595378@earthlink.net>

Frank Clarici wrote:  "....and drive around in the "new" car worth 30
grand, the car you wouldn't try to fix if you life depended on it?"

How does plastic rust?

Silas

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Dec  1 22:22:08 2007
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 21:22:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool in CT
In-Reply-To: <47523B75.8010707@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <340596.76587.qm@web30515.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
> So this means you park the car worth 10 grand, the
> car you already know 
> how to replace rusty panels on, and drive around in
> the "new" car worth 
> 30 grand, 

I don't have a $30,000 new car, and either way it'd
depreciate by 30% next year anyway, driven or not. The
Alfa is only original once. The Sprite I could not
bring myself to drive in this slop, regardless of what
it's "worth". 

Ron


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From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sun Dec  2 00:14:39 2007
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 23:14:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] What's That Knob?
Message-ID: <9108a1864ea16a94a421ea.20071201231439.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com>

I know most of you have seen the You Tube Video of the Bugeye test drive
by Roy Salvitori at Silverstone in 1958.  I was watching it again fro the
umpteenth time tonight and noticed a screen shot of the instrument panel
with a large button or knob to the left of the windshield wiper knob.  I
can't make it out in the video, but it's not on my car.  Anyone know what
this is?  One more thing, this video is a goldmine of originality facts. 
You see the windshield wipers operating in the rainy conditions of the
track.  This gives you an idea how fast your wipers should work.  Mine
were never this fast and the last time I turned them on they did not work.
 My turn signal light stopped working too, unless you tap on it.  Boy
these cars just do not like to sit for very long.  You gotta drive em!
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

Here's the link to the You Tube video: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe94HcpHyGU

From dwramsey at att.net  Sun Dec  2 00:27:33 2007
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 23:27:33 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool in CT
In-Reply-To: <47523B75.8010707@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20071202072840.02325187A0B@autox.team.net>

Show me a "new" car that is worth 30 grand, or one that will be worth 10
grand in 40 years.  Sure you could drive the $20k car to the show and make
it a $10k car all at the same time.  Might as well drive the $50k rig, as it
will be loosing $10k in "worth" every year, if you drive it or not.
		Crash

So this means you park the car worth 10 grand, the car you already know 
how to replace rusty panels on, and drive around in the "new" car worth 
30 grand, the car you wouldn't try to fix if you life depended on it?

Sort of like towing the 20,000 dollar car to a show with a rig worth 
50,000. Go figure.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From kidjoevid at yahoo.com  Sun Dec  2 05:54:02 2007
From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com (Joe Lansing)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 04:54:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] B engine rebuild
Message-ID: <687655.43732.qm@web33211.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

What are some sources for B engine parts? All I can
think of is VB, Moss and APT. Are there
better/different sources you'd recommend? How about
complete engines? I'm looking at a rebuild on a 71
1800.

Thanks

Joe Lansing
62 Sprite
71 MGB GT


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From wsthompson at thicko.com  Sun Dec  2 06:36:26 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 07:36:26 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Affordable Ferrari on CraigsList
In-Reply-To: <13887532.1196568833898.JavaMail.root@wmvirt55>
References: <13887532.1196568833898.JavaMail.root@wmvirt55>
Message-ID: <00bd01c834e8$581901b0$084b0510$@com>

There are no affordable Ferrari's.

Owning a Ferrari is like being married to a good looking woman that cheats
on you. Someday she'll break your heart and take all your money.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 10:14 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Affordable Ferrari on CraigsList

http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/car/495732757.html

NFI, just looks cool!
Kent

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sun Dec  2 06:41:32 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 07:41:32 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool in CT
References: <465597.83029.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <114b01c834e9$0dbf8a20$6401a8c0@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cool in CT


--- Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
> It was a bit brisk with temps in the 30s. But the
> top is still off

Game over here. Sprites and Alfa are done unless
there's a few huge December rains (like last year).
The town of Roscoe threw out the ceremonial first
salt-chunk of Winter around 10 am this morning.

Ron


      ____________________________________________________________________________________

First salt down Friday here in NE WI.  6 inches of snow yesterday afternoon 
followed by sleet.  Supposed to get warm today -- maybe even 30 degrees.

All the toys have been put to bed for the winter.


LAD 

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sun Dec  2 06:44:42 2007
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 07:44:42 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool in CT
In-Reply-To: <20071202072840.02325187A0B@autox.team.net>
References: <47523B75.8010707@comcast.net>
	<20071202072840.02325187A0B@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <e98d88090712020544n586c7a71vc4d12d057f30a8bf@mail.gmail.com>

MAYBE, a Corvette.
But that is just a ride on the name, certainly not on the quality...
Don't get me wrong, they run well, and FAST. But 40 years from now, will
computer parts for it still be available?

On Dec 2, 2007 1:27 AM, David Ramsey <dwramsey at att.net> wrote:

> Show me a "new" car that is worth 30 grand, or one that will be worth 10
> grand in 40 years.  Sure you could drive the $20k car to the show and make
> it a $10k car all at the same time.  Might as well drive the $50k rig, as
> it
> will be loosing $10k in "worth" every year, if you drive it or not.
>                Crash
>
> So this means you park the car worth 10 grand, the car you already know
> how to replace rusty panels on, and drive around in the "new" car worth
> 30 grand, the car you wouldn't try to fix if you life depended on it?
>
> Sort of like towing the 20,000 dollar car to a show with a rig worth
> 50,000. Go figure.
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> _______________________________________________
> tequila.brad at gmail.com
>
> Edit your replies
>
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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun Dec  2 07:07:49 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 08:07:49 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool in CT
References: <465597.83029.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<114b01c834e9$0dbf8a20$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <123201c834ec$b8e83110$0401a8c0@midget>

> First salt down Friday here in NE WI.  

Heck, on Friday I was in the East St Louis area watching a tanker
lay down liquid salt on a dry road at 44*F. Can YOU spell
"overtime"?
David Lieb

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sun Dec  2 07:11:47 2007
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 08:11:47 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool in CT
In-Reply-To: <123201c834ec$b8e83110$0401a8c0@midget>
References: <465597.83029.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<114b01c834e9$0dbf8a20$6401a8c0@Larry>
	<123201c834ec$b8e83110$0401a8c0@midget>
Message-ID: <e98d88090712020611s651bee41w9fba0408886ae105@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah, I gotta get out and mow the front yard, it is getting kinda scraggly
looking. I'll keep the deck high, for root insulation, but I doubt we'll see
anything significant this year.

On Dec 2, 2007 8:07 AM, David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com> wrote:

> > First salt down Friday here in NE WI.
>
> Heck, on Friday I was in the East St Louis area watching a tanker
> lay down liquid salt on a dry road at 44*F. Can YOU spell
> "overtime"?
> David Lieb
> _______________________________________________
> tequila.brad at gmail.com
>
> Edit your replies
>
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>
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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun Dec  2 07:44:01 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 08:44:01 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool in CT
References: <465597.83029.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<47523B75.8010707@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <125101c834f1$c7d3d350$0401a8c0@midget>

> So this means you park the car worth 10 grand, the car you already know
> how to replace rusty panels on, and drive around in the "new" car worth
> 30 grand, the car you wouldn't try to fix if you life depended on it?
>
> Sort of like towing the 20,000 dollar car to a show with a rig worth
> 50,000. Go figure.

Frank,
You are confusing value with worth. To me, my 1972 RWA Midget is worth
$50,000 because that is what it would take to part me from it. Its value,
however, is more realistically around $5,000. This means that I will 
cheerfully
drive my $21,000 VW GTi (that I would be happy to part with for $10,000)
in the salt and leave my RWA at home (or at Flounder's home, as happens to
be the case right now).
David Lieb 

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sun Dec  2 07:47:57 2007
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 08:47:57 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool in CT
In-Reply-To: <125101c834f1$c7d3d350$0401a8c0@midget>
References: <465597.83029.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<47523B75.8010707@comcast.net> <125101c834f1$c7d3d350$0401a8c0@midget>
Message-ID: <e98d88090712020647se4d3ccfja60daf060d86402b@mail.gmail.com>

DAVID, you are fogetting, Frank can restore a Sprite in less time than it
takes most folks to pull an engine.

On Dec 2, 2007 8:44 AM, David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com> wrote:

> > So this means you park the car worth 10 grand, the car you already know
> > how to replace rusty panels on, and drive around in the "new" car worth
> > 30 grand, the car you wouldn't try to fix if you life depended on it?
> >
> > Sort of like towing the 20,000 dollar car to a show with a rig worth
> > 50,000. Go figure.
>
> Frank,
> You are confusing value with worth. To me, my 1972 RWA Midget is worth
> $50,000 because that is what it would take to part me from it. Its value,
> however, is more realistically around $5,000. This means that I will
> cheerfully
> drive my $21,000 VW GTi (that I would be happy to part with for $10,000)
> in the salt and leave my RWA at home (or at Flounder's home, as happens to
> be the case right now).
> David Lieb
> _______________________________________________
> tequila.brad at gmail.com
>
> Edit your replies
>
> http://www.team.net/archive
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets
>



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From wsthompson at thicko.com  Sun Dec  2 07:52:37 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 08:52:37 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool in CT
In-Reply-To: <125101c834f1$c7d3d350$0401a8c0@midget>
References: <465597.83029.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<47523B75.8010707@comcast.net> <125101c834f1$c7d3d350$0401a8c0@midget>
Message-ID: <00db01c834f2$fcbcf0f0$f636d2d0$@com>

Frank,

Ownership is 9/10ths of the law Frank. I'll sell ya Dave's car for $1500.

WST 

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
David Lieb
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 8:44 AM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cool in CT

> So this means you park the car worth 10 grand, the car you already know
> how to replace rusty panels on, and drive around in the "new" car worth
> 30 grand, the car you wouldn't try to fix if you life depended on it?
>
> Sort of like towing the 20,000 dollar car to a show with a rig worth
> 50,000. Go figure.

Frank,
You are confusing value with worth. To me, my 1972 RWA Midget is worth
$50,000 because that is what it would take to part me from it. Its value,
however, is more realistically around $5,000. This means that I will 
cheerfully
drive my $21,000 VW GTi (that I would be happy to part with for $10,000)
in the salt and leave my RWA at home (or at Flounder's home, as happens to
be the case right now).
David Lieb 
_______________________________________________

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Sun Dec  2 07:58:45 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 08:58:45 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool in CT
In-Reply-To: <00db01c834f2$fcbcf0f0$f636d2d0$@com>
References: <465597.83029.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<47523B75.8010707@comcast.net> <125101c834f1$c7d3d350$0401a8c0@midget>
	<00db01c834f2$fcbcf0f0$f636d2d0$@com>
Message-ID: <00e201c834f3$d857f740$8907e5c0$@com>

Sorry, had decaf this AM...

Meant to say "possession", not "ownership".

Kind of f's up the joke, huh?
\

Frank,

Ownership is 9/10ths of the law Frank. I'll sell ya Dave's car for $1500.

WST 

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
David Lieb
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 8:44 AM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cool in CT

> So this means you park the car worth 10 grand, the car you already know
> how to replace rusty panels on, and drive around in the "new" car worth
> 30 grand, the car you wouldn't try to fix if you life depended on it?
>
> Sort of like towing the 20,000 dollar car to a show with a rig worth
> 50,000. Go figure.

Frank,
You are confusing value with worth. To me, my 1972 RWA Midget is worth
$50,000 because that is what it would take to part me from it. Its value,
however, is more realistically around $5,000. This means that I will 
cheerfully
drive my $21,000 VW GTi (that I would be happy to part with for $10,000)
in the salt and leave my RWA at home (or at Flounder's home, as happens to
be the case right now).
David Lieb 
_______________________________________________

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Dec  2 08:07:10 2007
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 07:07:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool in CT
In-Reply-To: <00e201c834f3$d857f740$8907e5c0$@com>
Message-ID: <484247.61224.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson at thicko.com>
wrote:
> Meant to say "possession", not "ownership".
> 
> Kind of f's up the joke, huh?

Joke? I just paypal'd you the money.


      ____________________________________________________________________________________
Be a better pen pal. 
Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how.  http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun Dec  2 08:13:29 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 09:13:29 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool in CT
References: <484247.61224.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <125d01c834f5$e57aa0b0$0401a8c0@midget>

> Joke? I just paypal'd you the money.

Wow, it's worth $1500 to you without even driving it? 
You must be planning to part it out ;-)
WST, hold out for at least $3k, you should be able to
part it out for a lot more than that with the AL head, the 
5-speed, the alloy wheels (with nice new Sumitomos),
13" steering wheel, PPP adjustable shocks, etc.
David

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Sun Dec  2 08:38:04 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 09:38:04 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool in CT
In-Reply-To: <125d01c834f5$e57aa0b0$0401a8c0@midget>
References: <484247.61224.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<125d01c834f5$e57aa0b0$0401a8c0@midget>
Message-ID: <00ea01c834f9$55cfec50$016fc4f0$@com>

Oh, I've driven it. I was in St. Louis Fri, following this truck that was
spraying perfectly dry roads with liquid salt. $1500 tops.

Larry took it around the Dream Farm track yesterday.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
David Lieb
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 9:13 AM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cool in CT

> Joke? I just paypal'd you the money.

Wow, it's worth $1500 to you without even driving it? 
You must be planning to part it out ;-)
WST, hold out for at least $3k, you should be able to
part it out for a lot more than that with the AL head, the 
5-speed, the alloy wheels (with nice new Sumitomos),
13" steering wheel, PPP adjustable shocks, etc.
David

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Dec  2 08:37:05 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 10:37:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool in CT
In-Reply-To: <125d01c834f5$e57aa0b0$0401a8c0@midget>
References: <484247.61224.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<125d01c834f5$e57aa0b0$0401a8c0@midget>
Message-ID: <4752D121.60904@comcast.net>

David Lieb wrote:
>> Joke? I just paypal'd you the money.
> 
> Wow, it's worth $1500 to you without even driving it? 
> You must be planning to part it out ;-)
> WST, hold out for at least $3k, you should be able to
> part it out for a lot more than that with the AL head, the 
> 5-speed, the alloy wheels (with nice new Sumitomos),
> 13" steering wheel, PPP adjustable shocks, etc.

I don't want it, it has all those "non original" goodies.
WST, I'll give you $400 for it. I mean there are no original
parts on it.
No Dunlops, no ribcase, no original steering wheel, totally wrong 
shocks, and it doesn't have the smog head.
David, you ruined you car. What's the matter with you?
But if $400 doesn't work, how about I sell you all the original stuff so 
you can make it worth $5000 again?
I'll be fair, Give me $7000 and I shiop you a steering wheel, leaky 
shox, and a carboned up 12G1316 head. I even have a couple of bald 
Dunlop SP4s


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Sun Dec  2 08:43:29 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 09:43:29 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool in CT
In-Reply-To: <125d01c834f5$e57aa0b0$0401a8c0@midget>
References: <484247.61224.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<125d01c834f5$e57aa0b0$0401a8c0@midget>
Message-ID: <00eb01c834fa$17e178e0$47a46aa0$@com>

I am always surprised at how more claustrophobic the late model cars feel
compared to the earlier cars I have. The combination of the thicker padding
in the seats, the dashboard a little closer to the driver with all its extra
padding really make those car a lot less comfortable for my behemoth body.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
David Lieb
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 9:13 AM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cool in CT

> Joke? I just paypal'd you the money.

Wow, it's worth $1500 to you without even driving it? 
You must be planning to part it out ;-)
WST, hold out for at least $3k, you should be able to
part it out for a lot more than that with the AL head, the 
5-speed, the alloy wheels (with nice new Sumitomos),
13" steering wheel, PPP adjustable shocks, etc.
David

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Dec  2 08:45:32 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 10:45:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] What's That Knob?
In-Reply-To: <9108a1864ea16a94a421ea.20071201231439.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com>
References: <9108a1864ea16a94a421ea.20071201231439.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com>
Message-ID: <4752D31C.9050201@comcast.net>

Also in that video, you can clearly see the shifter rubber boot
is the way I have mine, and have always had mine.
Everybody else has em on upside down!!!
Is the knob the screen washer?


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Sun Dec  2 08:51:35 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 09:51:35 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool in CT
In-Reply-To: <125d01c834f5$e57aa0b0$0401a8c0@midget>
References: <484247.61224.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<125d01c834f5$e57aa0b0$0401a8c0@midget>
Message-ID: <00f601c834fb$392fd1d0$ab8f7570$@com>

Oh, I've driven it. I was in St. Louis Fri, following this truck that was
spraying perfectly dry roads with liquid salt. $1500 tops.

Larry took it around the Dream Farm track yesterday.


DL said...

Wow, it's worth $1500 to you without even driving it? 
You must be planning to part it out ;-)
WST, hold out for at least $3k, you should be able to
part it out for a lot more than that with the AL head, the 
5-speed, the alloy wheels (with nice new Sumitomos),
13" steering wheel, PPP adjustable shocks, etc.
David

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun Dec  2 09:30:19 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 10:30:19 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool in CT
References: <484247.61224.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<125d01c834f5$e57aa0b0$0401a8c0@midget> <4752D121.60904@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <126501c83500$a14cdba0$0401a8c0@midget>

> I'll be fair, Give me $7000 and I shiop you a steering wheel, leaky 
> shox, and a carboned up 12G1316 head. I even have a couple of bald 
> Dunlop SP4s

You forgot the busted ribcase from the Babe car that gave up in the Gap.

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sun Dec  2 09:58:20 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 08:58:20 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool in CT
Message-ID: <380-220071202165820797@earthlink.net>

Frank Clarici  wrote:  "I even have a couple of bald Dunlop SP4s"

NOS air?

RBE

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sun Dec  2 10:01:44 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 09:01:44 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool in CT
Message-ID: <380-22007120217144641@earthlink.net>

Flounder wrote:  "...dashboard a little closer to the driver with all its
extra padding really make those car a lot less comfortable for my behemoth
body."

I dunno, but my big problem  is getting my Chippendale hardbody in and out
these days.  Something must have happened to the car over the years.  Or
did someone put a gotcha in it at the BusterCluster!

Buster

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sun Dec  2 10:12:05 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 09:12:05 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool in CT
Message-ID: <380-2200712021712515@earthlink.net>

Brad Fornal wrote:  "....Frank can restore a Sprite in less time than it
takes most folks to pull an engine."

It takes him a little longer now.  The hernia reminded him that after he
approaches 70, he can't lift the engine by hand anymore!  Now he has to set
up and use an engine hoist like the rest of us wimps.

Buster

From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Sun Dec  2 11:15:30 2007
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 10:15:30 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] San Francisco Bay Area theft
Message-ID: <015EA60D-FE04-49C2-A71A-AC7E7783EFF9@gerardsgarage.com>

Sometime after midnight last night, both my Miatas had their side  
windows broken and the hardtops were stolen. One is red and one is  
white. These are both factory top with original paint and in perfect  
condition.

I know it's a long shot, but if anyone in the SF Bay area spots one  
or both for sale on Craigslist or anywhere else, I would appreciate a  
heads-up. I will be able to recognize either of these tops on sight.  
The value of the two tops alone makes this grand theft.

Thanks for your attention.

Gerard
San Francisco, CA

From bpazur at excel.net  Sun Dec  2 12:00:45 2007
From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 13:00:45 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool In Wisco
Message-ID: <001001c83515$a5c5ad00$2fe867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH>

Talk about frustration! I changed my quarter elliptic springs around at SOS
'07 (thanks Flounder). Now the rear end sits lower, and I can't take Mr. White
for a very much anticipated test drive. But I don't even know if I can get our
driver cars on the road. The driveway has 5" of very heavy wet snow that the
snow blower can't get thru. And it's much too long to shovel. Oh, well, Spring
is only 6 months away.

Bud

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sun Dec  2 10:50:59 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 09:50:59 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] San Francisco Bay Area theft
Message-ID: <380-220071202175059453@earthlink.net>

Gerard Chateauvieux wrote:  "Sometime after midnight last night, both my
Miatas had their side windows broken and the hardtops were stolen...The
value of the two tops alone makes this grand theft.

Gerard, first I assume you filed a police report.  Were the cars in a
garage or carport?  If so, the bigger charge is burglary (in California,
burglary is defined as entering a house, room, apartment, tenement, shop,
warehouse, store, mill, barn, stable, outhouse or other building, tent,
vessel, railroad car, cargo container, [mounted on a vehicle] ...or
mine...or aircraft....*or vehicle*...with intent to commit grand or *petit
larceny* or any felony is guilty of burglary."*

And if anyone catches the sonuvabeech, a little non-judicial punishment
would be in order before turning him over to the cops!!!

Buster Evans

  *Yep, in the academy, one of the test questions was what was the most
serious crime a married man could commit if he entered a church with the
*intent* to commit bigamy?  The most serious crime was burglary which has a
greater punishment than bigamy alone.  And that is why if someone breaks
into your car and just steals a CD, it is actually burglary!

From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net  Sun Dec  2 12:02:26 2007
From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 11:02:26 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool in CT
References: <47523B75.8010707@comcast.net><20071202072840.02325187A0B@autox.team.net>
	<e98d88090712020544n586c7a71vc4d12d057f30a8bf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <006101c83516$000158a0$f675fea9@p0k7l8>

Likely no need to worry.  The grade schooler next door will surely be able
to help you out!!  So just go buy it!

Paul A

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
To: "David Ramsey" <dwramsey at att.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 5:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cool in CT


> MAYBE, a Corvette.
> But 40 years from now, will
> computer parts for it still be available?

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun Dec  2 12:03:27 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 13:03:27 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool in CT
References: <484247.61224.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<125d01c834f5$e57aa0b0$0401a8c0@midget>
	<00ea01c834f9$55cfec50$016fc4f0$@com>
Message-ID: <128101c83516$06103fe0$0401a8c0@midget>

> Oh, I've driven it. I was in St. Louis Fri, following this truck that was
> spraying perfectly dry roads with liquid salt. $1500 tops.

No, I was commenting on Soaverino forking over a grand and a 
half without driving it.. Quite the compliment!
 
> Larry took it around the Dream Farm track yesterday.

Not the first time for that Midget...

From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net  Sun Dec  2 12:19:20 2007
From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 11:19:20 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] San Francisco Bay Area theft
References: <015EA60D-FE04-49C2-A71A-AC7E7783EFF9@gerardsgarage.com>
Message-ID: <00e301c83518$3f1cd300$f675fea9@p0k7l8>

What a lousy break.  Hope that they show up somewhere and are recoverable,

Paul A

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Gerard Chateauvieux
  To: morris_motors at yahoogroups.com ; Spridgets Spridgets ;
midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com ; 1100 GGroup ; bmwe34m5 at yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 10:15 AM
  Subject: [midgetsprite] San Francisco Bay Area theft


  Sometime after midnight last night, both my Miatas had their side
  windows broken and the hardtops were stolen. One is red and one is
  white. These are both factory top with original paint and in perfect
  condition.

  I know it's a long shot, but if anyone in the SF Bay area spots one
  or both for sale on Craigslist or anywhere else, I would appreciate a
  heads-up. I will be able to recognize either of these tops on sight.
  The value of the two tops alone makes this grand theft.

  Thanks for your attention.

  Gerard
  San Francisco, CA


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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sun Dec  2 12:33:45 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 13:33:45 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool In Wisco
References: <001001c83515$a5c5ad00$2fe867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH>
Message-ID: <11c601c8351a$41911c70$6401a8c0@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bud Pazur" <bpazur at excel.net>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 1:00 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool In Wisco


Talk about frustration! I changed my quarter elliptic springs around at SOS
'07 (thanks Flounder). Now the rear end sits lower, and I can't take Mr. 
White
for a very much anticipated test drive. But I don't even know if I can get 
our
driver cars on the road. The driveway has 5" of very heavy wet snow that the
snow blower can't get thru. And it's much too long to shovel. Oh, well, 
Spring
is only 6 months away.

Bud
_______________________________________________

Bud, you, like I, would be at the physical therapist's office before you got 
10 feet into shoveling that driveway.  Aren't bad backs a wonderful thing.

I've got an 8 HP thrower and it took me over two hours to do my driveway, 
that of the widow across the street and the single mom down the block plus a 
few driveway approaches in the neighborhood.  Talk about wet and heavy. 
Winter sucks already.

LAD 

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sun Dec  2 12:37:26 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 13:37:26 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool in CT
References: <380-22007120217144641@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <11d001c8351a$c5246e20$6401a8c0@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Bruce Evans" <b-evans at earthlink.net>
To: "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson at thicko.com>; "David Lieb" 
<dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>; "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cool in CT


Flounder wrote:  "...dashboard a little closer to the driver with all its
extra padding really make those car a lot less comfortable for my behemoth
body."

I dunno, but my big problem  is getting my Chippendale hardbody in and out
these days.  Something must have happened to the car over the years.  Or
did someone put a gotcha in it at the BusterCluster!

Buster
_______________________________________________

Buster, that "Chippendale hardbody" is not unlike the hard coating that a 
really old bucket of paint gets on it when left out in the open too long.

Sorry, pal, you were wide open for that one.

LAD

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Sun Dec  2 12:45:54 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 13:45:54 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool In Wisco
In-Reply-To: <11c601c8351a$41911c70$6401a8c0@Larry>
References: <001001c83515$a5c5ad00$2fe867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH>
	<11c601c8351a$41911c70$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <003d01c8351b$fd62d140$f82873c0$@com>

I seem to recall offering to come by with my plow truck... but was waved off
because of that great 8hp snowthrower...

I think we need pictures of the "widow" and the "single mother".

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Larry Daniels
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 1:34 PM

Bud, you, like I, would be at the physical therapist's office before you got

10 feet into shoveling that driveway.  Aren't bad backs a wonderful thing.

I've got an 8 HP thrower and it took me over two hours to do my driveway, 
that of the widow across the street and the single mom down the block plus a

few driveway approaches in the neighborhood.  Talk about wet and heavy. 
Winter sucks already.

LAD 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sun Dec  2 12:51:50 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:51:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] San Francisco Bay Area theft
In-Reply-To: <00e301c83518$3f1cd300$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
References: <015EA60D-FE04-49C2-A71A-AC7E7783EFF9@gerardsgarage.com>
	<00e301c83518$3f1cd300$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP0917072770EB39FD556BF8B8730@CEZ.ICE>

I don't think you recover them ... I think they are painted. :)

-----Original Message

What a lousy break.  Hope that they show up somewhere and are recoverable,

Paul A

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Gerard Chateauvieux
  To: morris_motors at yahoogroups.com ; Spridgets Spridgets ;
midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com ; 1100 GGroup ; bmwe34m5 at yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 10:15 AM
  Subject: [midgetsprite] San Francisco Bay Area theft


  Sometime after midnight last night, both my Miatas had their side
  windows broken and the hardtops were stolen. One is red and one is
  white. These are both factory top with original paint and in perfect
  condition.

  I know it's a long shot, but if anyone in the SF Bay area spots one
  or both for sale on Craigslist or anywhere else, I would appreciate a
  heads-up. I will be able to recognize either of these tops on sight.
  The value of the two tops alone makes this grand theft.

  Thanks for your attention.

  Gerard
  San Francisco, CA

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sun Dec  2 13:02:21 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:02:21 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool In Wisco
References: <001001c83515$a5c5ad00$2fe867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH>
	<11c601c8351a$41911c70$6401a8c0@Larry>
	<003d01c8351b$fd62d140$f82873c0$@com>
Message-ID: <11d901c8351e$4076d600$6401a8c0@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson at thicko.com>
To: "'Larry Daniels'" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>; "'Bud Pazur'" 
<bpazur at excel.net>; "'Spridgets'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 1:45 PM
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Cool In Wisco


I seem to recall offering to come by with my plow truck... but was waved off
because of that great 8hp snowthrower...

I think we need pictures of the "widow" and the "single mother".

===============================

Well, the widow just outlasted her second husband several years ago.  I'm 
sure you could keep up with her for awhile.  You'll need to act fast, 
though, as she leaves for her winter home in AZ soon.

The single mom might be a little too picky about her men for you to get 
lucky. 

From pdx.pete at verizon.net  Sun Dec  2 13:04:58 2007
From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (pdxpete)
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 12:04:58 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Affordable Ferrari on CraigsList
References: <13887532.1196568833898.JavaMail.root@wmvirt55>
	<00bd01c834e8$581901b0$084b0510$@com>
Message-ID: <004601c8351e$9dff1490$960f6f47@DBKF4T81>

There was an interesting article, written by Ferrari broker Mike Sheehan, in 
the December issue of Sports Car Market. He said that any Ferrari this side 
of the 512 BB (circa "76 - '81) will represent a "challenge" to maintain and 
restore. Apparently some model-specific parts, especially the electronics, 
just might not be available outside of a salvage yard. (Ferrari also uses an 
SD3 diagnostic computer that is not compatible with the standard OBD2 
boxes.) In terms of the cost of parts that are available, he cites the 
prices associated with 355 parts .... 40 valves at  $179 each, flywheels at 
$4,100 a pop, etc.

I once had a student who had turned wrenches for "America's Oldest Ferrari 
Dealership" back in the late 70's and early 80's.  Interestingly enough, for 
his work on Italian exotics he said got paid the same per hour as the 
mechanics in the Chebby dealership down the street.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson at thicko.com>


> There are no affordable Ferrari's.
>
> Owning a Ferrari is like being married to a good looking woman that cheats
> on you. Someday she'll break your heart and take all your money.

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Sun Dec  2 13:11:43 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:11:43 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool In Wisco
In-Reply-To: <11d901c8351e$4076d600$6401a8c0@Larry>
References: <001001c83515$a5c5ad00$2fe867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH>
	<11c601c8351a$41911c70$6401a8c0@Larry>
	<003d01c8351b$fd62d140$f82873c0$@com>
	<11d901c8351e$4076d600$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <004501c8351f$952446a0$bf6cd3e0$@com>

Oh, but Mr. Daniels, it is your interest in them that is suspect... Mr.
Snowthrower Hero Boy who knows far too many details".

(Not tryin' to horn in on your neighborhood action there, stud.)

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Daniels [mailto:ladaniels at sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 2:02 PM
To: Wm. Severin Thompson; 'Spridgets'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cool In Wisco


===============================

Well, the widow just outlasted her second husband several years ago.  I'm 
sure you could keep up with her for awhile.  You'll need to act fast, 
though, as she leaves for her winter home in AZ soon.

The single mom might be a little too picky about her men for you to get 
lucky. 

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sun Dec  2 13:11:57 2007
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:11:57 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] San Francisco Bay Area theft
In-Reply-To: <015EA60D-FE04-49C2-A71A-AC7E7783EFF9@gerardsgarage.com>
References: <015EA60D-FE04-49C2-A71A-AC7E7783EFF9@gerardsgarage.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910712021211t60a7fc46m814efadcc1e805a8@mail.gmail.com>

Bummer.  I leave my Miata unlocked under the carport at night.  A
couple of weeks ago some Bozo broke open the console and popped the
trunk, but didn't take anything.  The trunk was full of hand tools and
my $400 Fluke multimeter was right on top, the first thing you saw
when you look in the trunk.  A .357 was stashed in the bottom.  When
my wife said "Your trunk is open." that morning I ran out in my
underwear (boxer brief for those of you visualizing) and was thankful
the gun hadn't been taken.  I don't mind losing tools and junk so much
but I was very relieved that some punk kid criminal wannabe didn't get
the gun.  Now I usually carry it inside with me at night.
I left the faceplate on the Sony radio, too, "Take it if you want,
just don't cut the convertible top."
Those guys knew what they were after and probably followed you home
one night and returned with a stolen truck to take the tops.  When
something like that happens to me I feel violated.
I am mild mannered and not generally violent.  But, if and when I
catch someone stealing outside my house, it will be very hard not to
unleash a large amount of anger and violence on them.  God help them
if I find someone in my house.  Louisiana and Texas have some pretty
lenient laws when it comes to shooting intruders.  The old joke is you
can shoot them outside but it is easier to get away with if you drag
them inside afterward.  A guy here executed a man in the airport some
years ago with TV cameras and police officers escorting the man.  He
had good reason, IMHO, because of what the man did, but he surely got
away with murder.

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sun Dec  2 13:13:26 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:13:26 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Affordable Ferrari on CraigsList
References: <13887532.1196568833898.JavaMail.root@wmvirt55><00bd01c834e8$581901b0$084b0510$@com>
	<004601c8351e$9dff1490$960f6f47@DBKF4T81>
Message-ID: <11ea01c8351f$ccbe48e0$6401a8c0@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "pdxpete" <pdx.pete at verizon.net>
To: "'Spridgets'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC - Affordable Ferrari on CraigsList


There was an interesting article, written by Ferrari broker Mike Sheehan, in
the December issue of Sports Car Market. He said that any Ferrari this side
of the 512 BB (circa "76 - '81) will represent a "challenge" to maintain and
restore. Apparently some model-specific parts, especially the electronics,
just might not be available outside of a salvage yard. (Ferrari also uses an
SD3 diagnostic computer that is not compatible with the standard OBD2
boxes.) In terms of the cost of parts that are available, he cites the
prices associated with 355 parts .... 40 valves at  $179 each, flywheels at
$4,100 a pop, etc.
================================

I never had a Ferrari, but I do recall a Corvette who's parts were three 
times those of any other Chevy.  Then I got a Porsche 911 and wished I still 
had the Corvette.  Highway robbery.

You don't need as deep of pockets to buy that stuff as you do to maintain 
them.

LAD

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sun Dec  2 13:15:30 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:15:30 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool In Wisco
References: <001001c83515$a5c5ad00$2fe867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH>
	<11c601c8351a$41911c70$6401a8c0@Larry>
	<003d01c8351b$fd62d140$f82873c0$@com>
	<11d901c8351e$4076d600$6401a8c0@Larry>
	<004501c8351f$952446a0$bf6cd3e0$@com>
Message-ID: <11f301c83520$16bdeb30$6401a8c0@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson at thicko.com>
To: "'Larry Daniels'" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>; "'Spridgets'" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 2:11 PM
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Cool In Wisco


Oh, but Mr. Daniels, it is your interest in them that is suspect...

============================

I'm sure the concept would be lost on you.

LAD 

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Sun Dec  2 13:18:41 2007
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 12:18:41 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Affordable Ferrari on CraigsList
Message-ID: <01ba01c83520$87d29690$116a010a@mail2world.com>

That's rather like the situation I find myself in with the Cosworth
Vega. Even some simple things, sich as rear brake hardware, drums, or a
lower radiator hose, are hard to find or aren't made anymore. EFI
computers, injectors, sensors, fuel pumps, etc are available used, with
NOS stuff commanding good money on ebay.
 
Fortunately, there's the Cosworth Vega Owners Association, which has
spnsored some limited runs of essentials such as timing belts, engine
gaskets, and such wich are for sale through the club.
 
-=Chris

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Larry Daniels [ladaniels at sbcglobal.net]
Sent: 12/2/2007 3:17:26 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC - Affordable Ferrari on CraigsList 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "pdxpete" <pdx.pete at verizon.net> 
To: "'Spridgets'" <spridgets at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 2:04 PM 
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC - Affordable Ferrari on CraigsList 


There was an interesting article, written by Ferrari broker Mike
Sheehan, in 
the December issue of Sports Car Market. He said that any Ferrari this
side 
of the 512 BB (circa "76 - '81) will represent a "challenge" to maintain
and 
restore. Apparently some model-specific parts, especially the
electronics, 
just might not be available outside of a salvage yard. (Ferrari also
uses an 
SD3 diagnostic computer that is not compatible with the standard OBD2 
boxes.) In terms of the cost of parts that are available, he cites the 
prices associated with 355 parts .... 40 valves at $179 each, flywheels
at 
$4,100 a pop, etc. 
================================ 

I never had a Ferrari, but I do recall a Corvette who's parts were three
times those of any other Chevy. Then I got a Porsche 911 and wished I
still 
had the Corvette. Highway robbery. 

You don't need as deep of pockets to buy that stuff as you do to
maintain 
them. 

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sun Dec  2 12:32:52 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 11:32:52 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool in CT
Message-ID: <380-220071202193252437@earthlink.net>

Larry Daniels wrote:  "Buster, that "Chippendale hardbody" is not unlike
the hard coating that a really old bucket of paint gets on it when left out
in the open too long.    Sorry, pal, you were wide open for that one."

Do you *really* think I didn't leave it open for you or someone else on
purpose?!?!

Buster

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Sun Dec  2 13:28:44 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:28:44 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool In Wisco
In-Reply-To: <11f301c83520$16bdeb30$6401a8c0@Larry>
References: <001001c83515$a5c5ad00$2fe867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH>
	<11c601c8351a$41911c70$6401a8c0@Larry>
	<003d01c8351b$fd62d140$f82873c0$@com>
	<11d901c8351e$4076d600$6401a8c0@Larry>
	<004501c8351f$952446a0$bf6cd3e0$@com>
	<11f301c83520$16bdeb30$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <005501c83521$f1290790$d37b16b0$@com>

Uh huh... SnowthowerStudBoy... that altruistic front must be workin' for ya.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Larry Daniels
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 2:16 PM
To: 'Spridgets'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cool In Wisco

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson at thicko.com>
To: "'Larry Daniels'" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>; "'Spridgets'" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 2:11 PM
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Cool In Wisco


Oh, but Mr. Daniels, it is your interest in them that is suspect...

============================

I'm sure the concept would be lost on you.

LAD 
______________________________________________

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sun Dec  2 13:30:17 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:30:17 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Affordable Ferrari on CraigsList
References: <01ba01c83520$87d29690$116a010a@mail2world.com>
Message-ID: <120a01c83522$27ad5410$6401a8c0@Larry>

I would imagine that someone with something as pedestrian as an SHO Taurus
would run into the same problem.  Imagine getting bled out for Taurus parts.


----- Original Message -----
From: Chris King
To: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC - Affordable Ferrari on CraigsList


That's rather like the situation I find myself in with the Cosworth Vega. Even
some simple things, sich as rear brake hardware, drums, or a lower radiator
hose, are hard to find or aren't made anymore. EFI computers, injectors,
sensors, fuel pumps, etc are available used, with NOS stuff commanding good
money on ebay.

Fortunately, there's the Cosworth Vega Owners Association, which has spnsored
some limited runs of essentials such as timing belts, engine gaskets, and such
wich are for sale through the club.

-=Chris

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/

 <-----Original Message----->

          From: Larry Daniels [ladaniels at sbcglobal.net]
      Sent: 12/2/2007 3:17:26 PM
      To: spridgets at autox.team.net
      Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC - Affordable Ferrari on CraigsList

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "pdxpete" <pdx.pete at verizon.net>
      To: "'Spridgets'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
      Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 2:04 PM
      Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC - Affordable Ferrari on CraigsList


      There was an interesting article, written by Ferrari broker Mike
Sheehan, in
      the December issue of Sports Car Market. He said that any Ferrari this
side
      of the 512 BB (circa "76 - '81) will represent a "challenge" to maintain
and
      restore. Apparently some model-specific parts, especially the
electronics,
      just might not be available outside of a salvage yard. (Ferrari also
uses an
      SD3 diagnostic computer that is not compatible with the standard OBD2
      boxes.) In terms of the cost of parts that are available, he cites the
      prices associated with 355 parts .... 40 valves at $179 each, flywheels
at
      $4,100 a pop, etc.
      ================================

      I never had a Ferrari, but I do recall a Corvette who's parts were three
      times those of any other Chevy. Then I got a Porsche 911 and wished I
still
      had the Corvette. Highway robbery.

      You don't need as deep of pockets to buy that stuff as you do to
maintain
      them.

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sun Dec  2 13:36:05 2007
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:36:05 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Affordable Ferrari on CraigsList
In-Reply-To: <120a01c83522$27ad5410$6401a8c0@Larry>
References: <01ba01c83520$87d29690$116a010a@mail2world.com>
	<120a01c83522$27ad5410$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <e98d88090712021236x2d2df7ebud688fe721a2ed04d@mail.gmail.com>

My neighbor has one, and he got screwed hard on an engine rebuild.



On Dec 2, 2007 2:30 PM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> I would imagine that someone with something as pedestrian as an SHO Taurus
> would run into the same problem.  Imagine getting bled out for Taurus
> parts.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Chris King
> To: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 2:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC - Affordable Ferrari on CraigsList
>
>
> That's rather like the situation I find myself in with the Cosworth Vega.
> Even
> some simple things, sich as rear brake hardware, drums, or a lower
> radiator
> hose, are hard to find or aren't made anymore. EFI computers, injectors,
> sensors, fuel pumps, etc are available used, with NOS stuff commanding
> good
> money on ebay.
>
> Fortunately, there's the Cosworth Vega Owners Association, which has
> spnsored
> some limited runs of essentials such as timing belts, engine gaskets, and
> such
> wich are for sale through the club.
>
> -=Chris
>
> Chris King
> http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <http://home.comcast.net/%7Ekvcbk/>
>
>  <-----Original Message----->
>
>          From: Larry Daniels [ladaniels at sbcglobal.net]
>      Sent: 12/2/2007 3:17:26 PM
>      To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>      Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC - Affordable Ferrari on CraigsList
>
>      ----- Original Message -----
>      From: "pdxpete" <pdx.pete at verizon.net>
>      To: "'Spridgets'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>      Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 2:04 PM
>      Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC - Affordable Ferrari on CraigsList
>
>
>      There was an interesting article, written by Ferrari broker Mike
> Sheehan, in
>      the December issue of Sports Car Market. He said that any Ferrari
> this
> side
>      of the 512 BB (circa "76 - '81) will represent a "challenge" to
> maintain
> and
>      restore. Apparently some model-specific parts, especially the
> electronics,
>      just might not be available outside of a salvage yard. (Ferrari also
> uses an
>      SD3 diagnostic computer that is not compatible with the standard OBD2
>      boxes.) In terms of the cost of parts that are available, he cites
> the
>      prices associated with 355 parts .... 40 valves at $179 each,
> flywheels
> at
>      $4,100 a pop, etc.
>      ================================
>
>      I never had a Ferrari, but I do recall a Corvette who's parts were
> three
>      times those of any other Chevy. Then I got a Porsche 911 and wished I
> still
>      had the Corvette. Highway robbery.
>
>      You don't need as deep of pockets to buy that stuff as you do to
> maintain
>      them.
> _______________________________________________
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>
> Edit your replies
>
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>
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sun Dec  2 14:03:40 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 16:03:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] San Francisco Bay Area theft
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910712021211t60a7fc46m814efadcc1e805a8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <015EA60D-FE04-49C2-A71A-AC7E7783EFF9@gerardsgarage.com>
	<5f00d9910712021211t60a7fc46m814efadcc1e805a8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP134C8F826AF6DE5DDE55FEB8730@CEZ.ICE>

Thank you very much for that ( he says facetiously ) ... My first vision was
of Tim the tool man <whatshisname> as the guy about to become Santa Claus in
that movie.  ( Can you tell that I don't have a memory? )

-----Original Message-----
When
my wife said "Your trunk is open." that morning I ran out in my
underwear (boxer brief for those of you visualizing) 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sun Dec  2 14:08:02 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 16:08:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Affordable Ferrari on CraigsList
In-Reply-To: <120a01c83522$27ad5410$6401a8c0@Larry>
References: <01ba01c83520$87d29690$116a010a@mail2world.com>
	<120a01c83522$27ad5410$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP01AAB77E08110DD00E87B4B8730@CEZ.ICE>

My last car was a Taurus.  Has anyone ever heard of an oil pan rusting off
before?

-----Original Message-----

I would imagine that someone with something as pedestrian as an SHO Taurus
would run into the same problem.  Imagine getting bled out for Taurus parts.

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun Dec  2 14:13:20 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 15:13:20 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Affordable Ferrari on CraigsList
References: <01ba01c83520$87d29690$116a010a@mail2world.com><120a01c83522$27ad5410$6401a8c0@Larry>
	<BAYC1-PASMTP01AAB77E08110DD00E87B4B8730@CEZ.ICE>
Message-ID: <12ad01c83528$2aae5050$0401a8c0@midget>

> My last car was a Taurus.  Has anyone ever heard of an oil pan rusting off
> before?

A buddy of mine had a hole rust through the oilpan of his Jeep. Just wrong!

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Dec  2 15:00:27 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 17:00:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool in CT
In-Reply-To: <380-22007120217144641@earthlink.net>
References: <380-22007120217144641@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <47532AFB.6010805@comcast.net>

Robert Bruce Evans wrote:

> I dunno, but my big problem  is getting my Chippendale hardbody 

There you go, Chip & Dale, you are twice the man you used to be.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sun Dec  2 14:51:06 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 13:51:06 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool in CT
Message-ID: <380-220071202215160@earthlink.net>

Frank Clarici  wrote:  "There you go, Chip & Dale, you are twice the man
you used to be."

OK, you are in first place now.  That is just a whole lot better than the
pitiful submission by the guy in Wisconsin!

Buster

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun Dec  2 15:46:12 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 16:46:12 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool in CT
References: <380-220071202215160@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <12b901c83535$23d54f60$0401a8c0@midget>

> Frank Clarici  wrote:  "There you go, Chip & Dale, you are twice the man
> you used to be."

Round here we try to keep the chipmunks out of our Spridgets. Course there 
seem to be Chipmunks all over the place this time of year... 

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sun Dec  2 16:03:47 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 17:03:47 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool in CT
References: <380-220071202215160@earthlink.net>
	<12b901c83535$23d54f60$0401a8c0@midget>
Message-ID: <12a001c83537$99a61150$6401a8c0@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
To: <b-evans at earthlink.net>; "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cool in CT


> Frank Clarici  wrote:  "There you go, Chip & Dale, you are twice the man
> you used to be."

Round here we try to keep the chipmunks out of our Spridgets. Course there
seem to be Chipmunks all over the place this time of year...
_______________________________________________

Judging by our recent experience, it might be a good idea to keep raccoons 
out of them, too. 

From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net  Sun Dec  2 16:06:20 2007
From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 15:06:20 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] No LB C  The trunk monkey returns-- Now chaperoning!
Message-ID: <00c301c83537$f4cce040$f675fea9@p0k7l8>

You guys with dating age daughters, might want to hire this guy!!  LOL!!

Pa

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Sun Dec  2 16:06:30 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 17:06:30 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool in CT
In-Reply-To: <12a001c83537$99a61150$6401a8c0@Larry>
References: <380-220071202215160@earthlink.net>
	<12b901c83535$23d54f60$0401a8c0@midget>
	<12a001c83537$99a61150$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <00ff01c83537$fb36dfd0$f1a49f70$@com>

No shit.

(Pun intended)

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Larry Daniels
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 5:04 PM
To: David Lieb; Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cool in CT

From dwramsey at att.net  Sun Dec  2 16:19:21 2007
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 15:19:21 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] San Francisco Bay Area theft
In-Reply-To: <380-220071202175059453@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20071202232032.C5D091879EA@autox.team.net>

Two weeks ago my boat was broken into by the local kids, they stole around
$2k in gear. I arrived just as they were leaving over the fence and called
911.  I was told to come in a fill out a report, when I mentioned I could
still see them running away I was told "how could I be sure they were the
ones that broke into the boat".  Other than the fact they were carrying the
stuff that was stolen one of them was blowing my air horn out of my boat. I
guess that did it as they sent an officer to investigate, he arrived 1 1/2
hr later.  The first half hour he was there was spent reminding me that had
we voted for the increase the police wanted last election maybe they could
have caught them. The rest of the time was spent telling how I would have to
come down to the station to fill out a report because they don't do that in
the field anymore.  Now in the last couple of weeks this very same RV lot
has been broken into with thefts of property usually less than the damage
done to get in, almost everyday. The police have more important things to
do, like looking for the stalker that is scaring kids in the area. Well not
really because when the parents complained they were told if they had voted
for the increases maybe they could have caught "him".
		Crash  


Gerard Chateauvieux wrote:  "Sometime after midnight last night, both my
Miatas had their side windows broken and the hardtops were stolen...The
value of the two tops alone makes this grand theft.

Gerard, first I assume you filed a police report.  Were the cars in a
garage or carport?  If so, the bigger charge is burglary (in California,
burglary is defined as entering a house, room, apartment, tenement, shop,
warehouse, store, mill, barn, stable, outhouse or other building, tent,
vessel, railroad car, cargo container, [mounted on a vehicle] ...or
mine...or aircraft....*or vehicle*...with intent to commit grand or *petit
larceny* or any felony is guilty of burglary."*

And if anyone catches the sonuvabeech, a little non-judicial punishment
would be in order before turning him over to the cops!!!

Buster Evans

  *Yep, in the academy, one of the test questions was what was the most
serious crime a married man could commit if he entered a church with the
*intent* to commit bigamy?  The most serious crime was burglary which has a
greater punishment than bigamy alone.  And that is why if someone breaks
into your car and just steals a CD, it is actually burglary!

From dwramsey at att.net  Sun Dec  2 16:37:00 2007
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 15:37:00 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] I give up
Message-ID: <20071202233812.DB2691879F5@autox.team.net>

$10k buys it all. 40 year collection of sprite junk including both my
bug-is, 4 datsun 5-speeds not counting the one in my yellow car. Lots of new
and used parts

                        Crash

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun Dec  2 16:50:00 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 17:50:00 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] I give up
References: <20071202233812.DB2691879F5@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <12c901c8353e$14fa4690$0401a8c0@midget>

> $10k buys it all. 40 year collection of sprite junk including both my
> bug-is, 4 datsun 5-speeds not counting the one in my yellow car. Lots of 
> new
> and used parts

Crash,
Ya can't do this to us! Not even Trish is gonna spring 10G on my Xmas 
present. Break it into smaller lots for cry eye. Any of us with room for 
this lot have filled it already. Even Flounder is getting a little crowded. 
How about a coupla Bugeye kits and some assorted lots of parts?
David Lieb 

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sun Dec  2 17:13:17 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 16:13:17 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] San Francisco Bay Area theft
Message-ID: <380-22007121301317234@earthlink.net>

David Ramsey  wrote:  " The first half hour he was there was spent
reminding me that had we voted for the increase the police wanted last
election maybe they could
have caught them."

Fire his ass!  Cops have absolutely *no* business discussing politics with
the public while on the job!!!!  (No do government clerks, road workers,
accountant...anybody who works for the government and deals with the
public.)  I would have been fired.  But the chief was like LAPD's Bill
Parker would fire anyone who took a donut for free!!!!

RBE

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sun Dec  2 17:17:20 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 16:17:20 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] I give up
Message-ID: <380-22007121301720843@earthlink.net>

David Lieb wrote:  "Crash,  Ya can't do this to us!"

Just leave it at that, David.  I don't want to see *anyone* with that kind
of devotion to leave us!  Period!

Buster

From dwramsey at att.net  Sun Dec  2 19:26:03 2007
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 18:26:03 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] I give up
In-Reply-To: <0538A8FC-89CF-479C-BA7B-09512DA7D64D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20071203022717.EABFC187640@autox.team.net>

Both of my cars are in the state of Nevada. If I'm going to describe cars
and items then I'll just sell them on ebay.
		Crash

Second, what state are your cars in?

Third, will $5 k hold them until I get there?

And I'm serious..

Lester

From dwramsey at att.net  Sun Dec  2 19:48:49 2007
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 18:48:49 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] H1 1 1/4 carbs for sale
Message-ID: <20071203025003.52F06187A04@autox.team.net>

Im going to list these next week on ebay.  One set of bug-I carbs H1 1 <
these come complete with 4 1 < velocity stacks, wire mesh filters (these
are the standard 1 1/8 filters), all linkage, backing plate, spacers,and
intake manifold.  All are original to this set of carbs they will not work
on the stock H1 1 1/8 or HS2 1 <.  These carbs are like new with rebushed
bodies and new std shafts.  I dont know how to tell if these are works
carbs or the ones made in Calif. Any idea what I should ask for them, I
figure if I cant get $1k Id like to demil them to DOD standards and make
them into bookends.

                        Crash

From hal at katemuir.com  Sun Dec  2 19:22:34 2007
From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 18:22:34 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool In Wisco
In-Reply-To: <001001c83515$a5c5ad00$2fe867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH>
Message-ID: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFIELCFFAA.hal@katemuir.com>

 Oh, well, Spring
is only 6 months away.

Reminds me of why I moved back to CA from MPLS!   I could handle the
occaisional trip down to -26 deg with wind chill.  I just couldn't get used
to the fact that it was not springtime sometime in early March.  There were
only six things I didn't like about MPLS:  November, December, January,
February, March, and April.  Come to think of it, May, June, July, and
August weren't that hot either.  That left September (usually not too bad)
and October (which was a bit dicey, especially toward the end....)
Hal

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Mon Dec  3 08:58:12 2007
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 07:58:12 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] EFI bugeye
Message-ID: <004201c835c5$4f21e530$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

Its been a long two weeks as I burned out the first wide-band O2 sensor, redid
all the firewall-to-bonnet wiring harness to incorporate the new wires and
look neat.  Last night I got the first engine start with the ignition
activated.  Now the Megasquirt is in control of the fuel AND the spark.  Its
back to the books tonight as I study up on designing a "perfect" timing table
for a turbocharger engine.  I can set in timing values for RPM from 500 to
7000, and for manifold pressure from 10Kpa to 170Kpa (thats from idle to 10lbs
boost).

So far, I plan on about 9deg. around idle, about 32deg pushing hard, dropping
to 22deg at high boost and RPM.  Suggestions from anyone with experience in
timing curves on the A-series would be greatly appreciated.

On a separate front, my wife just bought my Christmas gift(which I can't play
with yet!!! but she'll never know I snuck into her closet and played with it
while she was out of the house this weekend).  Its a direct tie -in to Lake of
the Ozarks.  A nice big-screen GPS that will navigate me along the secondary
routes and point out exciting Points-of-interest along the way.  Wouldn't want
to miss "another roadside attraction", like the world's largest ball of string
or the museum of crochet while rushing off to Spridgetland.  And I can enter
waypoints for every spridget I see rotting in backyards and driveways as I
cross the US next spring, shopping for the next checkbook hemorrhage.

Glen Byrns

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Dec  3 09:12:31 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:12:31 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] EFI bugeye
In-Reply-To: <004201c835c5$4f21e530$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F24727A77B9A43440E7A7FFB86C0@phx.gbl>

Were you looking for a change of clothes? :)

Do you think she may have been tracking you while you were playing with the 
GPS and will now return it?  :)



>From: "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
>
>On a separate front, my wife just bought my Christmas gift(which I can't 
>play
>with yet!!! but she'll never know I snuck into her closet and played with 
>it
>while she was out of the house this weekend).  Its a direct tie -in to Lake 
>of
>the Ozarks.  A nice big-screen GPS that will navigate me along the 
>secondary
>routes and point out exciting Points-of-interest along the way.  Wouldn't 
>want
>to miss "another roadside attraction", like the world's largest ball of 
>string
>or the museum of crochet while rushing off to Spridgetland.  And I can 
>enter
>waypoints for every spridget I see rotting in backyards and driveways as I
>cross the US next spring, shopping for the next checkbook hemorrhage.
>
>Glen Byrns

From lists at woozy.com  Mon Dec  3 09:46:50 2007
From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 11:46:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] EFI bugeye
In-Reply-To: <004201c835c5$4f21e530$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
References: <004201c835c5$4f21e530$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <475432FA.4050104@woozy.com>

Glen Byrns wrote:
> On a separate front, my wife just bought my Christmas gift(which I can't play
> with yet!!! but she'll never know I snuck into her closet and played with it
> while she was out of the house this weekend).  

When I was a kid I used to sneak into my parent's closet to check out 
what they had bought for Christmas. One day my mother asked me if I had 
happend to have gone into their closet.  Of course I said no. She took 
me into their bedroom and showed me the trail of footprints I had made 
coming from their closet. She had poured out talcum powder on the floor 
of the closet to set a trap for me and my siblings.

I got my hide tanned real good for that one.

My wife is getting me a wide screen GPS for Christmas also, but I think 
I'll stay out of her closet having learned my lesson about that years 
ago ;-)

Cheers,

Robert

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Dec  3 09:51:04 2007
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 08:51:04 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] EFI bugeye
In-Reply-To: <475432FA.4050104@woozy.com>
Message-ID: <C37973F8.12F7C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Well that explains a lot.
> She had poured out talcum powder on the floor
> of the closet to set a trap for me and my siblings.
> 
> I got my hide tanned real good for that one.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Dec  3 10:45:10 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:45:10 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] ebay hijacking in the news
Message-ID: <BAY112-F21C5014CB25DB4DDAECC24B86C0@phx.gbl>

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/story/2007/12/03/ebay-hijack.html

From lists at woozy.com  Mon Dec  3 11:06:42 2007
From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:06:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] EFI bugeye
In-Reply-To: <C37973F8.12F7C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C37973F8.12F7C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <475445B2.70909@woozy.com>

Could be. My old man was an MP at West Point when I was little then he 
became a construction worker after he got out of the service. Not the 
kind of guy you want to have at the other end of a belt when you are a 
kid. He's the same guy who dug a hole with a backhoe and buried my 
Sprite in some landfill in NJ when I was in high school. Luckily he's 
mellowed greatly with age. He's actually a really sweet guy now and I'm 
probably half the a-hole I used to be too. Funny how that happens.......

Robert






Billy Zoom wrote:
> Well that explains a lot.
>   
>> She had poured out talcum powder on the floor
>> of the closet to set a trap for me and my siblings.
>>
>> I got my hide tanned real good for that one.

From RampantNM at aol.com  Mon Dec  3 13:24:07 2007
From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 15:24:07 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] "found" snow blowers
Message-ID: <cf6.222ec1af.3485bfe7@aol.com>

So you guys are saying it's not a good idea to leave your tools unattened  in 
your front yard anywhere near where you live????


In a message dated 12/1/2007 10:12:43 PM Mountain Standard Time,  
spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes:

>  Fired up my little two cycle Toro snow thing I found on a curb this
>  summer-impressive little thing.

It started snowing lightly (had to look  twice to see a flake) this
morning, then tried to get serious for a while.  Not enough to
fire up the 8hp 2-stage walk-behind I picked up off the  curb
a month or so ago ;-) 



 
Regards,

Robert B. Houston

74.5 MGBGT
73 MG  Midget

As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual  Skinners Union
carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet  pleasingly formed, 
perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for  experienced hands, 
the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be  inspected and 
adjusted as
described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop  manual.




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From RampantNM at aol.com  Mon Dec  3 13:34:08 2007
From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 15:34:08 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Miata Hard Tops
Message-ID: <c4d.24181187.3485c240@aol.com>

In a message dated 12/2/2007 1:37:05 PM Mountain Standard Time,  
spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes:

Sometime  after midnight last night, both my Miatas had their side
windows  broken and the hardtops were stolen. 


Gerard,
 
Why not place a Craigs list ad looking for a miata hard top?  It might  lead 
you to yours.
 
Regards,

Robert B. Houston

74.5 MGBGT
73 MG  Midget

As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual  Skinners Union
carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet  pleasingly formed, 
perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for  experienced hands, 
the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be  inspected and 
adjusted as
described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop  manual.




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From RampantNM at aol.com  Mon Dec  3 13:36:01 2007
From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 15:36:01 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Congratulations Larry!
Message-ID: <ccb.21d333b9.3485c2b1@aol.com>

In a message dated 12/2/2007 1:37:05 PM Mountain Standard Time,  
spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes:

I've got  an 8 HP thrower and it took me over two hours to do my driveway,  
..................................and the single mom down the block 

 
Did you take pictures?

 
Regards,

Robert B. Houston

74.5 MGBGT
73 MG  Midget

As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual  Skinners Union
carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet  pleasingly formed, 
perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for  experienced hands, 
the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be  inspected and 
adjusted as
described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop  manual.




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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Mon Dec  3 13:39:20 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 14:39:20 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] "found" snow blowers
References: <cf6.222ec1af.3485bfe7@aol.com>
Message-ID: <002001c835ec$958b2fa0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>

> So you guys are saying it's not a good idea to leave your tools unattened 
> in
> your front yard anywhere near where you live????

Especially at the curb in the midst of a bunch of bags of trash ;-) 

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Mon Dec  3 13:50:56 2007
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 14:50:56 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] "found" snow blowers
In-Reply-To: <cf6.222ec1af.3485bfe7@aol.com>
References: <cf6.222ec1af.3485bfe7@aol.com>
Message-ID: <c4b2a5cabba52.bba52c4b2a5ca@rdc-kc.rr.com>

Well, no, not really.  Too many kids anyway.

There have been a few times I have placed bets with our neighbor when 
we throw big stuff out on how long it will last.  Usually gone by 
sunset or just after.

The Toro was definitely trashed and not left for lack of gas or the 
quality of whatever was in the tank.

Chris  

> So you guys are saying it's not a good idea to leave your tools 
> unattened  in 
> your front yard anywhere near where you live????
> 
> 
> In a message dated 12/1/2007 10:12:43 PM Mountain Standard Time,  
> spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes:
> 
> >  Fired up my little two cycle Toro snow thing I found on a curb 
this
> >  summer-impressive little thing.
> 
> It started snowing lightly (had to look  twice to see a flake) this
> morning, then tried to get serious for a while.  Not enough to
> fire up the 8hp 2-stage walk-behind I picked up off the  curb
> a month or so ago ;-) 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Dec  3 13:59:42 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 20:59:42 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] "found" snow blowers
In-Reply-To: <cf6.222ec1af.3485bfe7@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F35BF0D3C9961D9D2B8538DB86C0@phx.gbl>

That's the truth around here.  People have been known to leave their 
snowthrowers running ( or not ) unattended and they come back to find them 
gone.

>From: RampantNM at aol.com
>
>So you guys are saying it's not a good idea to leave your tools unattened  
>in
>your front yard anywhere near where you live????
>
>
>In a message dated 12/1/2007 10:12:43 PM Mountain Standard Time,
>spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes:
>
> >  Fired up my little two cycle Toro snow thing I found on a curb this
> >  summer-impressive little thing.
>
>It started snowing lightly (had to look  twice to see a flake) this
>morning, then tried to get serious for a while.  Not enough to
>fire up the 8hp 2-stage walk-behind I picked up off the  curb
>a month or so ago ;-)

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Mon Dec  3 14:06:42 2007
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:06:42 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] EFI bugeye
In-Reply-To: <475445B2.70909@woozy.com>
References: <C37973F8.12F7C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com> <475445B2.70909@woozy.com>
Message-ID: <47546FE2.3010406@wi.net>

Robert Weeks wrote:
> Could be. My old man was an MP at West Point when I was little then he 
> became a construction worker after he got out of the service. Not the 
> kind of guy you want to have at the other end of a belt when you are a 
> kid. He's the same guy who dug a hole with a backhoe and buried my 
> Sprite in some landfill in NJ when I was in high school. Luckily he's 
> mellowed greatly with age. He's actually a really sweet guy now and I'm 
> probably half the a-hole I used to be too. Funny how that happens.......
>
> Robert
>   
So....Jimmy Hoffa's in a Sprite???  Frank will find him!!!

Dave
59 :{)
59 MGA1500
05 MCS
Burlington WI

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Mon Dec  3 14:28:23 2007
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 13:28:23 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Rover site with Lucas stuff
Message-ID: <000601c835f3$6f145e30$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

This guy's site has the usual Lucas jokes, but also has pictures of a nice
original Lucas smoke kit for replacing the lost smoke in your wiring harness.
This could be useful for you guys out there faking up repro jars of Lucas
smoke for your show display.  You can see the correct placement of the label
and count the threads on the neck of the jar.

Glen

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Mon Dec  3 14:49:58 2007
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 13:49:58 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Lucas smoke site
Message-ID: <000a01c835f6$75b12630$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

Sorry,
I forget to paste the site: http://www.mez.co.uk/lucas.html

From bilbostuufff at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  3 15:56:24 2007
From: bilbostuufff at yahoo.com (John Colclasure)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 14:56:24 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Vaccum Advance..
Message-ID: <838683.87802.qm@web56004.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Ok, folks, got a book, although it seems a bit worthless in most questions perhaps someone can answer this question. The Midget is a 1979...In the Haynes Repair Manual an illustration shows the Flame trap line going from the distirbutor vacuum unit to the Exhaust gas recirculation unit...However, for some reason I have no line going going to the distributor vaccum Unit..(Nothing attached)...and a line going from the Exhaust gas recirculation unit to a spout of the carberator....
  When I examine the illustration it shows a line going out of the carburator to someplace that is not shown in the picture...The car seems to get very jerky when going down the road especially at low rpns...(I am thinking this could be the lack of connection with the vaccum advance Unit....Any ideas? 

       
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon Dec  3 16:42:05 2007
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 17:42:05 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] EFI bugeye
In-Reply-To: <47546FE2.3010406@wi.net>
References: <C37973F8.12F7C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<475445B2.70909@woozy.com> <47546FE2.3010406@wi.net>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910712031542oa0acdcl72379e04bd7bc2bb@mail.gmail.com>

> So....Jimmy Hoffa's in a Sprite???  Frank will find him!!!
>

Quiet, silly one, Frank put him there.

From dmg at bossig.com  Mon Dec  3 16:48:17 2007
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:48:17 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] EFI bugeye
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910712031542oa0acdcl72379e04bd7bc2bb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C37973F8.12F7C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>,
	<47546FE2.3010406@wi.net>,
	<5f00d9910712031542oa0acdcl72379e04bd7bc2bb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47542541.22316.1C6177F@dmg.bossig.com>

My Brooklyn-born  ex-Brother-in-Law always said that JH was buried in 
Queens, and in Flushing, and in Brooklyn, and in Ozone park, and in.........

On 3 Dec 2007 at 17:42, derf wrote:
>> > So....Jimmy Hoffa's in a Sprite???  Frank will find him!!!

>> Quiet, silly one, Frank put him there.

-
Dave G, KK7SS
'65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Mon Dec  3 16:57:15 2007
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 15:57:15 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Affordable Ferrari on CraigsList
Message-ID: <1b2601c83608$3ab55620$0d6a010a@mail2world.com>

I replaced one on our Tercel several years ago because it had a hole
rusted in it and it was leaking.
 
Now it just leaks.
 
-=Chris.

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Robert Duquette [robertduquette at sympatico.ca]
Sent: 12/2/2007 4:11:02 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC - Affordable Ferrari on CraigsList 

My last car was a Taurus. Has anyone ever heard of an oil pan rusting
off 
before? 


. 

From dmg at bossig.com  Mon Dec  3 17:06:59 2007
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:06:59 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Peugot vs Sprite on Utube...
Message-ID: <475429A3.2717.1D732E4@dmg.bossig.com>

My teenage daughter is a big, BIG fan of the Twin-turbo(?) Toyota Supra.
I have just shown her the utube video of the Peugot 'Pimpmobile' vs the 
Bugeye Prescott Hill climb...

You know what... she was very pleased the Bugeye won....
There is hope for the younger generation after all....

-
Dave G, KK7SS
'65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Mon Dec  3 16:30:32 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 15:30:32 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] EFI bugeye
Message-ID: <380-22007121323303293@earthlink.net>

Dave G. wrote:  "My Brooklyn-born  ex-Brother-in-Law always said that JH
was buried in  Queens, and in Flushing, and in Brooklyn, and in Ozone park,
and in........."
derf wrote:  "So....Jimmy Hoffa's in a Sprite???  Frank will find him!!!"
Dave G wrote:  "Quiet, silly one, Frank put him there."

Don't be silly.  Frank was far too young.  He was just the flower boy.  And
pulled the gold teeth out.  (That is where he got his motto, "Waste not,
want not!")

Buster

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Mon Dec  3 17:27:54 2007
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 16:27:54 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Vaccum Advance..
Message-ID: <0b4c01c8360c$82d195a0$056a010a@mail2world.com>

John,
 
Haynes is OK for most stuff, but for this emissions detail, I find it
falls short. You really need to get the Bentley reprint of the factory
manual. Moss, VB, and several vendors on this list can hook you up.
 
Now, if your '79 is still pretty much stock, the vacuum can on the
distributor is actually a vacuum RETARD, not advance. What it does is
retard the timing for better emissions.  This si why the timing spec for
the late 1500 is 2* ATDC.
 
That said, the first thing to do is make sure the components involved
are actually working. After all this time, the EGR valve could be choked
with carbon, and the vacuum umit on the dizzy may have a split
diaphragm. Apply vacuum to the EGR and see if the diap[hragm/needle
moves. Same with the dizzy, though you'll have to openit up to see if
the arm from the vacuum retard unit moves.
 
I've attached for you (the list won't get it) a scan of the emissions
hose page for a '79 California Midget - it should be closer to what you
need. It's out of the Bentley book.
 
DO you have to get your car through an emissions inspection? If not, you
may want to just remove any inoperative components. We can help you out
with that if you want to go that rpute.
 
Hope this helps.
 
-=Chris


Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: John Colclasure [bilbostuufff at yahoo.com]
Sent: 12/3/2007 5:59:24 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Vaccum Advance.. 

Ok, folks, got a book, although it seems a bit worthless in most
questions perhaps someone can answer this question. The Midget is a
1979...In the Haynes Repair Manual an illustration shows the Flame trap
line going from the distirbutor vacuum unit to the Exhaust gas
recirculation unit...However, for some reason I have no line going going
to the distributor vaccum Unit..(Nothing attached)...and a line going
from the Exhaust gas recirculation unit to a spout of the carberator....
When I examine the illustration it shows a line going out of the
carburator to someplace that is not shown in the picture...The car seems
to get very jerky when going down the road especially at low rpns...(I
am thinking this could be the lack of connection with the vaccum advance
Unit....Any ideas? 


--------------------------------- 

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 79emission.jpg]

From dmg at bossig.com  Mon Dec  3 17:42:25 2007
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:42:25 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Broken Vacuum unit...  LBC content!  WOW!
Message-ID: <475431F1.475.1F7A52A@dmg.bossig.com>

Can any body tell me if I can repair a dizzy vacuum unit that leaks??
Or do I have to buy a new vacuum unit?
If so, from whom?

tia
-
Dave G, KK7SS
'65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Dec  3 18:35:50 2007
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:35:50 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Affordable Ferrari on CraigsList
In-Reply-To: <1b2601c83608$3ab55620$0d6a010a@mail2world.com>
Message-ID: <C379EEF6.12FB7%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> Has anyone ever heard of an oil pan rusting
> off 
That's what happens when they design an engine without proper oil leakage.

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Mon Dec  3 18:02:43 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 17:02:43 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Affordable Ferrari on CraigsList
Message-ID: <380-2200712241243906@earthlink.net>

 Chris King wrote:  "Has anyone ever heard of an oil pan rusting off" 
Billy Zoom wrote:  "That's what happens when they design an engine without
proper oil leakage."

But that, Billy is the secret genius of English automotive leakage design. 
It is an ancient secret handed down from father to son in evil rituals
under a full moon on the Salisbury Plain at the Winter solstice.  Similar
to the Family Lucas.

Buster

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Mon Dec  3 19:14:08 2007
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 20:14:08 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] EFI bugeye
In-Reply-To: <380-22007121323303293@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <200712040214.lB42E4c5025758@ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com>

Dave G. wrote:  "My Brooklyn-born  ex-Brother-in-Law always said that JH
was buried in  Queens, and in Flushing, and in Brooklyn, and in Ozone park,
and in........."
derf wrote:  "So....Jimmy Hoffa's in a Sprite???  Frank will find him!!!"
Dave G wrote:  "Quiet, silly one, Frank put him there."

Don't be silly.  Frank was far too young.  He was just the flower boy.  And
pulled the gold teeth out.  (That is where he got his motto, "Waste not,
want not!")

Buster


Oh...is that why there are gold Sprite emblems and then silver ones?

Chris

From dwramsey at att.net  Mon Dec  3 20:06:48 2007
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 19:06:48 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Broken Vacuum unit...  LBC content!  WOW!
In-Reply-To: <475431F1.475.1F7A52A@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <20071204030812.0FBBB1879ED@autox.team.net>

If you have a mityvac, pull a vacuum and pour some of that "green slime"
tire flat repair goop  on the other side when it will hold the vacuum it is
fixed.  Usually will last up to 6 months until you have to do it again.
		Crash

Can any body tell me if I can repair a dizzy vacuum unit that leaks??
Or do I have to buy a new vacuum unit?
If so, from whom?

tia
-
Dave G, KK7SS
'65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA

From dmg at bossig.com  Mon Dec  3 20:27:05 2007
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:27:05 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Broken Vacuum unit...  LBC content!  WOW!
In-Reply-To: <200712032007111.SM02864@psmtp.com>
References: <475431F1.475.1F7A52A@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<200712032007111.SM02864@psmtp.com>
Message-ID: <47545889.32140.28E68EE@dmg.bossig.com>

Crash,

Thank you very much ;-) What a neat solution.
I *do* have a Mityvac and will try this weekend...
How long does the "Green Slime" take to set up??

dave 

On 3 Dec 2007 at 19:06, David Ramsey wrote:

>> If you have a mityvac, pull a vacuum and pour some of that "green slime"
>> tire flat repair goop  on the other side when it will hold the vacuum it is
>> fixed.  Usually will last up to 6 months until you have to do it again.
>> 		Crash
>> 
>> Can any body tell me if I can repair a dizzy vacuum unit that leaks??
>> Or do I have to buy a new vacuum unit?
>> If so, from whom?
>> 
>> tia
>> -
>> Dave G, KK7SS
>> '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA
>> 
>> 
>> 

-
Dave G, KK7SS
'65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Mon Dec  3 19:43:11 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 18:43:11 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] I want this car...
Message-ID: <4754BEBF.8020900@earthlink.net>

And I don't care if it *is* the most expensive car in the world!!!

http://tinyurl.com/345mf4

Buster

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  3 20:58:02 2007
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 19:58:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool In Wisco
In-Reply-To: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFIELCFFAA.hal@katemuir.com>
Message-ID: <858279.75447.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- Hal Faulkner <hal at katemuir.com> wrote:
> Reminds me of why I moved back to CA from MPLS!  

Ah.....but when it's summer:

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=26&article_id=5935

Ron


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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Dec  4 00:05:08 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 01:05:08 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] I want this car...
In-Reply-To: <4754BEBF.8020900@earthlink.net>
References: <4754BEBF.8020900@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712032305q4575a3dbq94caa09351ea69ad@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/3/07, b-evans at earthlink.net <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:
> And I don't care if it *is* the most expensive car in the world!!!
>
> http://tinyurl.com/345mf4

A truly amazing motor car!

I will never forget 1966 walking around the High street in
Harrow-on-the-Hill with my first wife (we were courting) and coming
across a Rolls Royce Silver Ghost parked outside the pub at the
College. The look of lust on my face nearly ended our relationship.
Looking back now, I wish it had!!  I sold my beautiful 1946 MG TC and
put the money toward our wedding.  Should have kep the car!!  ;-)
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Mon Dec  3 23:38:57 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 22:38:57 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Anger as fines from speed cameras soar
Message-ID: <380-22007122463857593@earthlink.net>

And you think people in America are getting hosed by cities who use red-light cameras to generate revenue?  Just think of our poor Brit cousins!

 http://tinyurl.com/26txgx 
or
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=YKJUD5TX0UGPBQFIQMGSFGGAVCBQWIV0?xml=/news/2007/12/04/nspeed104.xml

Buster

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  4 06:03:00 2007
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 05:03:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] I want this car...
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0712032305q4575a3dbq94caa09351ea69ad@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <157141.47073.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> Looking back now, I wish it had!!  I sold my
> beautiful 1946 MG TC and
> put the money toward our wedding.  

My father told me the story of he and my mother stuck
in traffic at the Midtown Tunnel in 1955 on the way to
the Roosevelt Hotel to make the final arrangements for
their wedding. A Bugatti Type 35 was next to him, and
my father told the guy "that's my favorite car in the
world". The guy told him it was for sale. Of course
the car was exactly the cost of the wedding and my
father had to say no.

Ron


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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Dec  4 07:11:19 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 14:11:19 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Anger as fines from speed cameras soar
In-Reply-To: <380-22007122463857593@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F2363872F76132293A9EB01B86D0@phx.gbl>

We once voted out a provincial government that put in speed cameras and 
replaced them with one that promised ( and kept their word ) to remove them. 
  ( Obviously not the only issue, but it was a prominant one. )  We do have 
red light cameras at high accident intersections though.  And, they put up 
signs warning that there is a camera at the intersection so their motive 
doesn't appear to be a money grab.

>From: "Robert Bruce Evans" <b-evans at earthlink.net>
>
>And you think people in America are getting hosed by cities who use 
>red-light cameras to generate revenue?  Just think of our poor Brit 
>cousins!
>
>  http://tinyurl.com/26txgx
>or
>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=YKJUD5TX0UGPBQFIQMGSFGGAVCBQWIV0?xml=/news/2007/12/04/nspeed104.xml
>
>Buster

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Tue Dec  4 07:19:07 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 08:19:07 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Anger as fines from speed cameras soar
References: <BAY112-F2363872F76132293A9EB01B86D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <131401c83680$a2244960$0401a8c0@midget>

> . . . We do have
> red light cameras at high accident intersections though.  And, they put up
> signs warning that there is a camera at the intersection so their motive
> doesn't appear to be a money grab.

We have a number of those here in Chicago. Apparently (I wouldn't know), 
they mail you a picture of your car going through the red light and ask for 
your donation. A friend of mine, who happens to work for the police 
department, received one of these. He was about to send the money in when he 
realized that the picture actually showed his car going through a GREEN 
light; no violation in sight. You can't imagine what a difficult time he had 
trying to convince the authorities that their cameras were out of sync. 
Would probably have been cheaper and certainly easier to pay the fine, but a 
person has to have some principles...
David Lieb 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Dec  4 08:03:51 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 15:03:51 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Anger as fines from speed cameras soar
In-Reply-To: <131401c83680$a2244960$0401a8c0@midget>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F2278121E91A65FA69D135AB86D0@phx.gbl>

I guess you could photoshop those and have a print made. :)

>From: "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
>
> > . . . We do have
> > red light cameras at high accident intersections though.  And, they put 
>up
> > signs warning that there is a camera at the intersection so their motive
> > doesn't appear to be a money grab.
>
>We have a number of those here in Chicago. Apparently (I wouldn't know),
>they mail you a picture of your car going through the red light and ask for
>your donation. A friend of mine, who happens to work for the police
>department, received one of these. He was about to send the money in when 
>he
>realized that the picture actually showed his car going through a GREEN
>light; no violation in sight. You can't imagine what a difficult time he 
>had
>trying to convince the authorities that their cameras were out of sync.
>Would probably have been cheaper and certainly easier to pay the fine, but 
>a
>person has to have some principles...
>David Lieb

From dmg at bossig.com  Tue Dec  4 09:05:41 2007
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 08:05:41 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] I want this car...
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0712032305q4575a3dbq94caa09351ea69ad@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4754BEBF.8020900@earthlink.net>,
	<43840a7e0712032305q4575a3dbq94caa09351ea69ad@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47550A55.9462.181A69@dmg.bossig.com>

In my case it was "Either those guns go, or I go".
In hindsight, just like Jim, I should've kept the guns!!


On 4 Dec 2007 at 1:05, Jim Johnson wrote:

>>  I sold my beautiful 1946 MG TC and
>> put the money toward our wedding.  Should have kep the car!!  ;-)

-
Dave G, KK7SS
'65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Dec  4 09:40:30 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:40:30 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] I want this car...
In-Reply-To: <47550A55.9462.181A69@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F27D8294B3B3A19741C768AB86D0@phx.gbl>

The local classic rock station here plays a bit where a guy from AC/DC is 
talking about ( I think! ) Bon Scott and his spouse says something to the 
effect of "it's either the band or me" and he replied, "they're a great 
band".  And, the rest is history.  ( he joined the band. )


>From: "Dave G." <dmg at bossig.com>
>
>In my case it was "Either those guns go, or I go".
>In hindsight, just like Jim, I should've kept the guns!!
>
>
>On 4 Dec 2007 at 1:05, Jim Johnson wrote:
>
> >>  I sold my beautiful 1946 MG TC and
> >> put the money toward our wedding.  Should have kep the car!!  ;-)
>
>-
>Dave G, KK7SS
>'65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Tue Dec  4 10:07:23 2007
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 11:07:23 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] I want this car...
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F27D8294B3B3A19741C768AB86D0@phx.gbl>
References: <47550A55.9462.181A69@dmg.bossig.com>
	<BAY112-F27D8294B3B3A19741C768AB86D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <e98d88090712040907j10836b5ew9deebe756975811f@mail.gmail.com>

The bonny Scott, his parents moved to Oz when he was a wee lad, and he took
his nickname on as his own. He drove truck for the struggling AC/DC when
they were first starting out, as they went gig to gig. One night, the singer
didn't show, so Bon hopped up on stage, and sang for them. The next gig, the
singer showed up, Bon told him "fuck off, I've got your job now"
The rest is history...
If you don't have the AC/DC box set Bonfire, it is a MUST OWN, for any 70's
rock fan

On Dec 4, 2007 10:40 AM, Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
wrote:

> The local classic rock station here plays a bit where a guy from AC/DC is
> talking about ( I think! ) Bon Scott and his spouse says something to the
> effect of "it's either the band or me" and he replied, "they're a great
> band".  And, the rest is history.  ( he joined the band. )
>
>
> >From: "Dave G." <dmg at bossig.com>
> >
> >In my case it was "Either those guns go, or I go".
> >In hindsight, just like Jim, I should've kept the guns!!
> >
> >
> >On 4 Dec 2007 at 1:05, Jim Johnson wrote:
> >
> > >>  I sold my beautiful 1946 MG TC and
> > >> put the money toward our wedding.  Should have kep the car!!  ;-)
> >
> >-
> >Dave G, KK7SS
> >'65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA
> _______________________________________________
> tequila.brad at gmail.com
>
> Edit your replies
>
> http://www.team.net/archive
>
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>



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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Tue Dec  4 09:23:10 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 08:23:10 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] I want this car...
Message-ID: <380-220071224162310343@earthlink.net>

Ron Soave wrote:  "A Bugatti Type 35 was next to him, and my father told
the guy "that's my favorite car in the world".  The guy told him it was...

Blast!  It didn't have the fairytale ending I was hoping for.  Wouldn't it
have been greater ending with, "The guy told him it was HIS!!!"

Of course the car was exactly the cost of the wedding and my father had to
say no.

Just remember, and give thanks, for he didn't HAVE to!  That was a
yet-to-be father's love for his yet-to-be born son!  And it also proves
that you come to your love of cars naturally (and genetically).

Buster 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Dec  4 11:56:42 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 18:56:42 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] electrostatic rust control
Message-ID: <BAY112-F313FBEFFBDF4B0FF29CE17B86D0@phx.gbl>

I seem to remember seeing this being asked before, but I don't recall the 
answer.  Does electrostatic rust control work, or not?

http://www.counteractrust.com
http://www.counteractrust.com/Canadian%20Classics.htm

http://www.corrosion-doctors.org/Car/car-electronic-rust.htm

From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Tue Dec  4 12:41:03 2007
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 11:41:03 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 7, Issue 10
In-Reply-To: <mailman.36086.1196738873.12556.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.36086.1196738873.12556.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <F5082D12-C9F1-48EF-9D6B-D8D14EF46F33@gerardsgarage.com>

Robert,

I did just that. I haven't had a single reply. I also placed an add  
on Miata.net letting the community know of the theft.

However, it's likely that these were taken by some asian kids to use  
for themselves or to sell to friends. I'm sure they are on someone's  
else Miata right now with their proud new "owners". They may not even  
be from my neighborhood. A few years ago, I caught a couple Chinese  
kids prying parts off my neighbors car at 3 in the morning. The  
police captured them and if I remember correctly, they weren't even  
from San Francisco. Apparently, this is where they come to "shop".  
All part and parcel of the sense of entitlement which defines this  
generation. Even the cop told me "asian kids".

The problem is, the cops don't do anything and the perpetrators know  
this. The likelihood of them being caught is very slim and even if  
they do, I think they don't get much more than a slap on the wrist. I  
was told repeatedly, "we don't have the resources for stuff like  
this" . They don't even check for fingerprints. It's all  about  
"contact your insurance company". In other words, you're on your own  
pal. On the other hand,  If I had caught them, I probably either have  
been shot or gone to jail for "infringing on their rights". Worse  
still, you get the feeling insurance companies think you are trying  
to pull something. They even voice record your statements now. The  
whole experience is very creepy.

I was saving the red car for for my seventeen YO son who is just  
about to get his driver's license. So now he's gotten a personal  
taste of life's harsh realities as well.

Gerard



On Dec 3, 2007, at 7:27 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote:

>
>
>
> Gerard,
>
> Why not place a Craigs list ad looking for a miata hard top?  It  
> might  lead
> you to yours.
>
> Regards,
>
> Robert B. Houston

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Dec  4 13:01:21 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 20:01:21 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 7, Issue 10
In-Reply-To: <F5082D12-C9F1-48EF-9D6B-D8D14EF46F33@gerardsgarage.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F307333BA4CF438646D0085B86D0@phx.gbl>

You're not alone there.  I had someone locally tell me that the police 
provided them with a form for their insurance claim and weren't going to 
pursue the matter at all.

I reported a suspicious vehicle that had been parked ( abandoned ) in front 
of my house.  It was stolen.  They didn't print that either.  I would have 
thought when you started to get into the category of potentially unlicenced 
drivers joy riding and risking peoples lives that fingerprinting might come 
into the picture.

But, what kind of resources would it take to process them?  I guess I would 
have to walk a mile in their shoes.


>From: Gerard Chateauvieux <pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com>
>I
>was told repeatedly, "we don't have the resources for stuff like
>this" . They don't even check for fingerprints. It's all  about
>"contact your insurance company".

From dwramsey at att.net  Tue Dec  4 13:03:36 2007
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 12:03:36 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] I want this car...
In-Reply-To: <47550A55.9462.181A69@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <20071204200502.1C7EE187A21@autox.team.net>

First time I got married I traded my 68 GT500KR Shelby for a VW camper van.
Well it did get better mileage and it out lasted the marriage.
		
		Crash


In my case it was "Either those guns go, or I go".
In hindsight, just like Jim, I should've kept the guns!!


On 4 Dec 2007 at 1:05, Jim Johnson wrote:

>>  I sold my beautiful 1946 MG TC and
>> put the money toward our wedding.  Should have kep the car!!  ;-)

-
Dave G, KK7SS
'65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA

From cmlove at knology.net  Tue Dec  4 13:11:32 2007
From: cmlove at knology.net (Monty Love)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 14:11:32 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] electrostatic rust control
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F313FBEFFBDF4B0FF29CE17B86D0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-F313FBEFFBDF4B0FF29CE17B86D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000301c836b1$dd6c9050$6601a8c0@se.nos.boeing.com>

Check out this web site below.  It says to be very wary!!!!

http://www.corrosion-doctors.org/Car/car-electronic-rust.htm 


Charles M. "Monty" Love 
Dynetics, Inc. 
256-461-2780 
256-337-5581 (Cell)
256-882-1543 (Home)
ET Test 

The greatest revolutions come not by the discovery of something new. They
happen when someone radically changes or challenges what was always there.


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+cmlove=knology.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmlove=knology.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Robert Duquette
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 12:57 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] electrostatic rust control

I seem to remember seeing this being asked before, but I don't recall the
answer.  Does electrostatic rust control work, or not?

http://www.counteractrust.com
http://www.counteractrust.com/Canadian%20Classics.htm

http://www.corrosion-doctors.org/Car/car-electronic-rust.htm
_______________________________________________
cmlove at knology.net

Edit your replies

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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Tue Dec  4 12:21:46 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 11:21:46 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] "Perpetrators"?  No, criminals!
Message-ID: <380-220071224192146515@earthlink.net>

Gerad....

Please do not use the term "perpetrators".  This is only a fancy schmacy
word to please the PC'ers, and you don't need to pander to them.  Use the
word proper for English language usage:  criminals.  For that is exactly
what they are, for *you* know that a crime was committed.   And how did the
word "perpetrators" become popular?  Because that was the term used in New
York and some Eastern states that were/are the setting for so many cop
shows.  Out here, the favored term is "suspects".

Buster


> [Original Message]
> From: Gerard Chateauvieux <pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com>
> To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: 12/4/2007 11:41:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 7, Issue 10
>
> Robert,
>
> I did just that. I haven't had a single reply. I also placed an add  
> on Miata.net letting the community know of the theft.
>
> However, it's likely that these were taken by some asian kids to use  
> for themselves or to sell to friends. I'm sure they are on someone's  
> else Miata right now with their proud new "owners". They may not even  
> be from my neighborhood. A few years ago, I caught a couple Chinese  
> kids prying parts off my neighbors car at 3 in the morning. The  
> police captured them and if I remember correctly, they weren't even  
> from San Francisco. Apparently, this is where they come to "shop".  
> All part and parcel of the sense of entitlement which defines this  
> generation. Even the cop told me "asian kids".
>
> The problem is, the cops don't do anything and the perpetrators know  
> this. The likelihood of them being caught is very slim and even if  
> they do, I think they don't get much more than a slap on the wrist. I  
> was told repeatedly, "we don't have the resources for stuff like  
> this" . They don't even check for fingerprints. It's all  about  
> "contact your insurance company". In other words, you're on your own  
> pal. On the other hand,  If I had caught them, I probably either have  
> been shot or gone to jail for "infringing on their rights". Worse  
> still, you get the feeling insurance companies think you are trying  
> to pull something. They even voice record your statements now. The  
> whole experience is very creepy.
>
> I was saving the red car for for my seventeen YO son who is just  
> about to get his driver's license. So now he's gotten a personal  
> taste of life's harsh realities as well.
>
> Gerard
>
>
>
> On Dec 3, 2007, at 7:27 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Gerard,
> >
> > Why not place a Craigs list ad looking for a miata hard top?  It  
> > might  lead
> > you to yours.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Robert B. Houston
> _______________________________________________
> b-evans at earthlink.net
>
> Edit your replies
>
> http://www.team.net/archive
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Dec  4 13:17:44 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 20:17:44 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] I want this car...
In-Reply-To: <20071204200502.1C7EE187A21@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F334CED3BBFB58493C17807B86D0@phx.gbl>

Wow!  I'm starting to feel truly blessed, what with having far more guns and 
cars and tools than before I got married.

RD

>First time I got married I traded my 68 GT500KR Shelby for a VW camper van.
>Well it did get better mileage and it out lasted the marriage.
>
>		Crash
>
>
>In my case it was "Either those guns go, or I go".
>In hindsight, just like Jim, I should've kept the guns!!
>
>
>On 4 Dec 2007 at 1:05, Jim Johnson wrote:
>
> >>  I sold my beautiful 1946 MG TC and
> >> put the money toward our wedding.  Should have kep the car!!  ;-)
>
>-
>Dave G, KK7SS
>'65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Dec  4 13:21:11 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 20:21:11 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] "Perpetrators"? No, criminals!
In-Reply-To: <380-220071224192146515@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F3690AE22E6DAB245212BC8B86D0@phx.gbl>

I've heard other words used to describe them! ;)


>From: "Robert Bruce Evans" <b-evans at earthlink.net>
>
>Gerad....
>
>Please do not use the term "perpetrators".  This is only a fancy schmacy
>word to please the PC'ers, and you don't need to pander to them.  Use the
>word proper for English language usage:  criminals.  For that is exactly
>what they are, for *you* know that a crime was committed.   And how did the
>word "perpetrators" become popular?  Because that was the term used in New
>York and some Eastern states that were/are the setting for so many cop
>shows.  Out here, the favored term is "suspects".
>
>Buster
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Gerard Chateauvieux <pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com>
> > To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> > Date: 12/4/2007 11:41:51 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 7, Issue 10
> >
> > Robert,
> >
> > I did just that. I haven't had a single reply. I also placed an add
> > on Miata.net letting the community know of the theft.
> >
> > However, it's likely that these were taken by some asian kids to use
> > for themselves or to sell to friends. I'm sure they are on someone's
> > else Miata right now with their proud new "owners". They may not even
> > be from my neighborhood. A few years ago, I caught a couple Chinese
> > kids prying parts off my neighbors car at 3 in the morning. The
> > police captured them and if I remember correctly, they weren't even
> > from San Francisco. Apparently, this is where they come to "shop".
> > All part and parcel of the sense of entitlement which defines this
> > generation. Even the cop told me "asian kids".
> >
> > The problem is, the cops don't do anything and the perpetrators know
> > this. The likelihood of them being caught is very slim and even if
> > they do, I think they don't get much more than a slap on the wrist. I
> > was told repeatedly, "we don't have the resources for stuff like
> > this" . They don't even check for fingerprints. It's all  about
> > "contact your insurance company". In other words, you're on your own
> > pal. On the other hand,  If I had caught them, I probably either have
> > been shot or gone to jail for "infringing on their rights". Worse
> > still, you get the feeling insurance companies think you are trying
> > to pull something. They even voice record your statements now. The
> > whole experience is very creepy.
> >
> > I was saving the red car for for my seventeen YO son who is just
> > about to get his driver's license. So now he's gotten a personal
> > taste of life's harsh realities as well.
> >
> > Gerard

From peter at nosimport.com  Tue Dec  4 13:36:06 2007
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 14:36:06 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] "Perpetrators"? No, criminals!
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F3690AE22E6DAB245212BC8B86D0@phx.gbl>
References: <380-220071224192146515@earthlink.net>
	<BAY112-F3690AE22E6DAB245212BC8B86D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071204143255.01bb34a8@nosimport.com>

At 02:21 PM 12/4/2007, Robert Duquette wrote:

>I've heard other words used to describe them! ;)
======
Yesterday, I had a 1989 Honda Civic delivery car....

... and I had an employee who left the keys in it overnight.

Now I don't have that employee....



Good you say?


Ah, but I don't have the Civic, either.


Both are worth less than my deductible.



Peter C. 

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Dec  4 14:32:43 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 15:32:43 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] I want this car...
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F334CED3BBFB58493C17807B86D0@phx.gbl>
References: <20071204200502.1C7EE187A21@autox.team.net>
	<BAY112-F334CED3BBFB58493C17807B86D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712041332wa6a8154ib92ee213f0e81dd5@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/4/07, Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> Wow!  I'm starting to feel truly blessed, what with having far more guns
> and
> cars and tools than before I got married.


I also have far more guns, cars, motorcycles, tools, and musical instruments
than when I FIRST got married, but it took me 3 marriages to arrive at that
point....    ;-)
-
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Tue Dec  4 14:12:56 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 13:12:56 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] "Perpetrators"? No, criminals!
Message-ID: <380-220071224211256906@earthlink.net>

Peter C  wrote:  "Ah, but I don't have the Civic, either."

Let's see, a car today is comparable to a horse of yesteryear.  And what
did they do to horse thieves?  Any particular rope you would prefer to be
used?  Manila?  Sisal?  Maybe stand 'em on the Civic and put the pedal to
the metal as they did back then.

Buster

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Tue Dec  4 14:28:06 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 13:28:06 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] I want this car...
Message-ID: <380-22007122421286359@earthlink.net>

Jim Johnson wrote:  "I also have far more guns, cars, motorcycles, tools,
and musical instruments than when I FIRST got married, but it took me 3
marriages to arrive at that point....    ;-)"

Guess I am just lucky.  I already had my guns and my Sprite when Pam
married me.  Of course what she really wanted was the ex-Dodge police car I
owned, that had a bigger engine, a bigger radiator, a bigger alternator,
and heavier suspension.  And with a husband who also had a badge, that left
her fearless when it came to her heavy foot on the accelerator and her lust
for speed!

Buster

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue Dec  4 15:22:55 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 16:22:55 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] "Perpetrators"? No, criminals!
References: <380-220071224211256906@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <15d201c836c4$3855dbe0$6401a8c0@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Bruce Evans" <b-evans at earthlink.net>
To: "Peter C" <peter at nosimport.com>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] "Perpetrators"? No, criminals!


Peter C  wrote:  "Ah, but I don't have the Civic, either."

Let's see, a car today is comparable to a horse of yesteryear.  And what
did they do to horse thieves?  Any particular rope you would prefer to be
used?  Manila?  Sisal?  Maybe stand 'em on the Civic and put the pedal to
the metal as they did back then.

Buster
_______________________________________________

How about hemp rope.  When you are finished smoking the employee, you can 
smoke the rope.

Disclaimer:  Just a suggestion -- and not a serious one at that.  I would 
never advise anybody to use any materials in a way other than for what they 
were designed.  Especially when Big Brother might be listening.

Anon 

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Tue Dec  4 14:37:53 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 13:37:53 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] "Perpetrators"? No, criminals!
Message-ID: <380-220071224213753781@earthlink.net>

Larry Daniels wrote:  "Especially when Big Brother might be listening."

Sorry, but I heard that!

OK, you know the drill.  Against the wall.....

Silas P. Gumbody
Executive Assistant to Big Brother
Bald Knob, Arkansas

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Dec  4 16:21:02 2007
From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 17:21:02 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] I want this car...
References: <BAY112-F334CED3BBFB58493C17807B86D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <04ce01c836cc$566cac50$6501a8c0@actualshop>

<<Wow!  I'm starting to feel truly blessed, what with having far more guns and
cars and tools than before I got married.>>

A     HUGE    ditto, RD!!

I wouldn't even be in business if not for Wife!!  SHE found Garage, Property
and House.

<VBG>!!

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Tue Dec  4 16:50:27 2007
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 15:50:27 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] I want this car...
Message-ID: <178001c836d0$72009f40$116a010a@mail2world.com>

Same here. :)  Especially since my Midget was my birthday present! It
helps that she's become even more of a driving enthusiast with the BMW
she drives.
 
-=Chris


Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Robert Duquette [robertduquette at sympatico.ca]
Sent: 12/4/2007 3:21:44 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I want this car... 

Wow! I'm starting to feel truly blessed, what with having far more guns
and 
cars and tools than before I got married. 

RD 

From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net  Tue Dec  4 17:09:16 2007
From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 18:09:16 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] I want this car...
References: <178001c836d0$72009f40$116a010a@mail2world.com>
Message-ID: <072c01c836d3$1342e690$6501a8c0@actualshop>

<<It helps that she's become even more of a driving enthusiast with the BMW
she drives.>>

Nah Chris, she just loves your e-bay prowess!!!

LOL

From hal at katemuir.com  Tue Dec  4 17:36:01 2007
From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 16:36:01 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] "Perpetrators"?  No, criminals!
In-Reply-To: <380-220071224192146515@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFIEPLFFAA.hal@katemuir.com>

Buster said, "the favored term is "suspects"."

I have even heard a policeman on TV describing a criminal act for which no
one had yet been arrested say that  the "alleged suspects" escaped.
However, there is a distinction between "suspect and perpetrator: the
"suspect" is the person who you think committed a crime, the perpetrator is
the person who actually committed the crime, identified or not.  If you
"suspect" that, say, a Frank C. obtained a chrome headlight ring in an
extra-legal manner, he would be a "suspect."  The person who actually took
the chrome headlight ring (whether Frank or someone else) would, of course,
be the perpetrator.  Please note that this is a fictitious scenario used
only to illustrate a point of grammar and that any similarities to persons
or events that may have actually taken place is entirely coincidental.

From snhochberg at gmail.com  Tue Dec  4 17:56:10 2007
From: snhochberg at gmail.com (Sam H)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 18:56:10 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Anger as fines from speed cameras soar (David Lieb)
Message-ID: <9d4f61f00712041656l27b538c8o2c168e812109f28a@mail.gmail.com>

On a related note....

I once got a late notice in the mail regarding a parking ticket I'd
supposedly gotten on my Sprite on the South Side of Chicago, 7700 South
Something-Or-Other Street.

In a fit of naive yet sincere honesty, I wrote them back, saying that: A.
I'd never been that far on the South Side in my life, and B. I certainly
wouldn't have driven the Sprite there!

And they believed me and discarded the ticket! They had simply transcribed
the license plate incorrectly.

And on another tangent (threadjack alert), as an occasional lurker who's
never posted before (and not even sure this is gonna work) but subscribes in
digest form, maybe someone can tell me why, for the last month or three,
instead of one daily digest, I now get several daily? I know there was a
change to the system lately...just curious.

Oh, and I suppose, while I'm de-lurking, I'll brag that this summer, thanks
to a move into a larger garage (with an attached house), I was finally able
to achieve a long-time goal - to go an entire summer without putting the top
up on either of the toys - the '73 911 Targa or the Sprite. Well, I
lied...there was that one day, on the way home from the AHCA autocross in
the western Chicago 'burbs, when it started raining hard, really, really
hard....

And in another bold, unabashed attempt at getting even more off-topic,
what's a feasible wheel/tire size for a set of Minilites that will fit a
sqarebody (square wheel arch) Sprite? In case my Most Excellent Wife needs
me to drop a few more Xmas gift hints?

Here's some pics of the car, from a Chicagoland BCU show right after the
restoration:
http://members.tripod.com/PREV_PDLJMPR/despl20.jpg
http://members.tripod.com/PREV_PDLJMPR/despl21.jpg
http://members.tripod.com/PREV_PDLJMPR/despl22.jpg
http://members.tripod.com/PREV_PDLJMPR/despl23.jpg
This past year, at the same show, we were just pulling out when, over the
PA, we heard our name called...we'd won the "Diamond In The Rough" award. So
my last question is...was that a compliment?

...Sam Hochberg
Already in the throes of severe cabin fever and sports-car withdrawal
'68 Sprite

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Dec  4 19:37:51 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 20:37:51 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] "Perpetrators"? No, criminals!
In-Reply-To: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFIEPLFFAA.hal@katemuir.com>
References: <380-220071224192146515@earthlink.net>
	<HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFIEPLFFAA.hal@katemuir.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712041837r2187acf4ma822b3aa1040ee4b@mail.gmail.com>

Hmmmm....   If I recall correctly, there was a certain red BE parked in
front of Buster's garage door - the closest one of all to the assembly
area.  Perhaps we should examine the headlight rings on THAT car...   I will
not say who it belonged to but the owner's initials are "Hal Faulkner"...
;-)

Hal - according to your definition - a "perpetrator" would, per force, be a
"criminal" as Buster noted so why use the term "perpetrator"?  It looks to
me more like a term used by people who don't want to offend anyone with the
brutal truth.  It is so terribly P.C....

Besides....   Anyone who steals stuff from one of our cars is a "excrement
venting orifice"...

Cheers!!
Jim

On Dec 4, 2007 6:36 PM, Hal Faulkner <hal at katemuir.com> wrote:

> Buster said, "the favored term is "suspects"."
>
> I have even heard a policeman on TV describing a criminal act for which no
> one had yet been arrested say that  the "alleged suspects" escaped.
> However, there is a distinction between "suspect and perpetrator: the
> "suspect" is the person who you think committed a crime, the perpetrator
> is
> the person who actually committed the crime, identified or not.  If you
> "suspect" that, say, a Frank C. obtained a chrome headlight ring in an
> extra-legal manner, he would be a "suspect."  The person who actually took
> the chrome headlight ring (whether Frank or someone else) would, of
> course,
> be the perpetrator.  Please note that this is a fictitious scenario used
> only to illustrate a point of grammar and that any similarities to persons
> or events that may have actually taken place is entirely coincidental.
> _______________________________________________
> bmwwxman at gmail.com
>
> Edit your replies
>
> http://www.team.net/archive
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets
>



-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Tue Dec  4 19:53:36 2007
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 21:53:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Anger as fines from speed cameras soar (David Lieb)
In-Reply-To: <9d4f61f00712041656l27b538c8o2c168e812109f28a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9d4f61f00712041656l27b538c8o2c168e812109f28a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3A2C6AD5-AB00-467A-816D-0EA5D934A7BA@phillymgclub.com>

Go back and look at the size of the digests. Typically there is a  
limit to the size of the digest email. If enough BS gets posted (as it  
has lately, and every winter) then there are more digests. Lets say  
the digest has to go out if the amount of emails adds up to 100KB (I  
know no one remembers a KB). Then the list server sends a digest out.  
If that happens  at 9AM PST, and the folks on the west coast still  
have not gone to work, then thy post another 100KB of emails and  
another digest goes out. Then the Aussie's get added to the mix and  
another 1KB of interesting stuff and 99KB of BS gets to the list and  
another digest goes out. Soon it is 4 AM in England and only just  
midnight in the EST zone, where not a single sole would purport to  
post an off topic, band wasting email and you have at the minimum 3  
DIgests, if not more.

Now in the summer all us Right Coasters are driving or helping Frank  
(Well watching, anyway) and we're too damn busy driving to post a lot  
of KB, so the number of Digests decrease.

Got it??

Larry


On Dec 4, 2007, at 7:56 PM, Sam H wrote:

> And on another tangent (threadjack alert), as an occasional lurker  
> who's
> never posted before (and not even sure this is gonna work) but  
> subscribes in
> digest form, maybe someone can tell me why, for the last month or  
> three,
> instead of one daily digest, I now get several daily? I know there  
> was a
> change to the system lately...just curious.

-- 

Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Declare your Independence, Bring your MG to MG 2008
Valley Forge, PA June 26-29, 2008
http://mg2008.com

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Board Member at Large
Philadelphia MG Club



"I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've  
never actually known what the question is." - Douglas Adams

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Tue Dec  4 21:40:31 2007
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 22:40:31 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Anger as fines from speed cameras soar (David Lieb)
References: <9d4f61f00712041656l27b538c8o2c168e812109f28a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001c01c836f8$f7bda790$c7a1bf46@personal>

I think it is a lovely Sprite. Good on ya.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sam H" <snhochberg at gmail.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Anger as fines from speed cameras soar (David Lieb)


> On a related note....
>
> I once got a late notice in the mail regarding a parking ticket I'd
> supposedly gotten on my Sprite on the South Side of Chicago, 7700 South
> Something-Or-Other Street.
>
> In a fit of naive yet sincere honesty, I wrote them back, saying that: A.
> I'd never been that far on the South Side in my life, and B. I certainly
> wouldn't have driven the Sprite there!
>
> And they believed me and discarded the ticket! They had simply transcribed
> the license plate incorrectly.
>
> And on another tangent (threadjack alert), as an occasional lurker who's
> never posted before (and not even sure this is gonna work) but subscribes 
> in
> digest form, maybe someone can tell me why, for the last month or three,
> instead of one daily digest, I now get several daily? I know there was a
> change to the system lately...just curious.
>
> Oh, and I suppose, while I'm de-lurking, I'll brag that this summer, 
> thanks
> to a move into a larger garage (with an attached house), I was finally 
> able
> to achieve a long-time goal - to go an entire summer without putting the 
> top
> up on either of the toys - the '73 911 Targa or the Sprite. Well, I
> lied...there was that one day, on the way home from the AHCA autocross in
> the western Chicago 'burbs, when it started raining hard, really, really
> hard....
>
> And in another bold, unabashed attempt at getting even more off-topic,
> what's a feasible wheel/tire size for a set of Minilites that will fit a
> sqarebody (square wheel arch) Sprite? In case my Most Excellent Wife needs
> me to drop a few more Xmas gift hints?
>
> Here's some pics of the car, from a Chicagoland BCU show right after the
> restoration:
> http://members.tripod.com/PREV_PDLJMPR/despl20.jpg
> http://members.tripod.com/PREV_PDLJMPR/despl21.jpg
> http://members.tripod.com/PREV_PDLJMPR/despl22.jpg
> http://members.tripod.com/PREV_PDLJMPR/despl23.jpg
> This past year, at the same show, we were just pulling out when, over the
> PA, we heard our name called...we'd won the "Diamond In The Rough" award. 
> So
> my last question is...was that a compliment?
>
> ...Sam Hochberg
> Already in the throes of severe cabin fever and sports-car withdrawal
> '68 Sprite
> _______________________________________________
> jlaird237 at cox.net
>
> Edit your replies
>
> http://www.team.net/archive
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets
>
>
> -- 
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.13/1170 - Release Date: 
> 12/4/2007 10:52 AM

From hal at katemuir.com  Tue Dec  4 21:57:53 2007
From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 20:57:53 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Anger as fines from speed cameras soar (David Lieb)
In-Reply-To: <3A2C6AD5-AB00-467A-816D-0EA5D934A7BA@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFGEPPFFAA.hal@katemuir.com>

Larry et al,
Doesn't the international date line come into play here?  Soon we are all
posting tomorrow, thust guaranteeing another 3 digests then...
Hal

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of
Larry Macy
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 6:54 PM
To: Sam H
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Anger as fines from speed cameras soar (David
Lieb)


Go back and look at the size of the digests. Typically there is a
limit to the size of the digest email. If enough BS gets posted (as it
has lately, and every winter) then there are more digests. Lets say
the digest has to go out if the amount of emails adds up to 100KB (I
know no one remembers a KB). Then the list server sends a digest out.
If that happens  at 9AM PST, and the folks on the west coast still
have not gone to work, then thy post another 100KB of emails and
another digest goes out. Then the Aussie's get added to the mix and
another 1KB of interesting stuff and 99KB of BS gets to the list and
another digest goes out. Soon it is 4 AM in England and only just
midnight in the EST zone, where not a single sole would purport to
post an off topic, band wasting email and you have at the minimum 3
DIgests, if not more.

Now in the summer all us Right Coasters are driving or helping Frank
(Well watching, anyway) and we're too damn busy driving to post a lot
of KB, so the number of Digests decrease.

Got it??

Larry

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Tue Dec  4 21:07:15 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 20:07:15 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] eBay officials may face arrest?
Message-ID: <380-2200712354715937@earthlink.net>

I might even support this if it was not France!  

Even so, France's action brought the same weasel words eBay has been using for over 10 years, now, claiming, "...it acted only as a broker, facilitating meetings between buyers and sellers, and not as a public auction house."  In doing so, eBay denies any and all culpability or being complicit in the frauds it allows on its site.  I personally know that they have gone so far as to refuse to cooperate with some States' attorneys general who were pursuing fraud involving western and cowboy art associated with our family and early 20th century associates of Pam's great-uncle in the Taos Society of Artists.

 http://tinyurl.com/2ucdk8 

Buster Evans 

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Tue Dec  4 22:09:09 2007
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel)
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 23:09:09 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool In Wisco
In-Reply-To: <858279.75447.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <858279.75447.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <47563275.9050402@wi.net>

Ron Soave wrote:
> --- Hal Faulkner <hal at katemuir.com> wrote:
>   
>> Reminds me of why I moved back to CA from MPLS!  
>>     
>
> Ah.....but when it's summer:
>
> http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=26&article_id=5935
>
> Ron
>   
Ahhhh, Grasshopper!  You beat me to it.  That article is without a doubt 
my favorite Egan article.  He nailed my adolescent years.  I'd toss in 
Lynndale Farms near Pewaukee, now a subdivision.....sigh.
Oh, is it snowing outside?  I hadn't noticed.

Dave
59 :{)
59 MGA 1500
05 MCS Burlington WI

From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU  Wed Dec  5 04:49:44 2007
From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 06:49:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 7, Issue 12
In-Reply-To: <mailman.36316.1196822317.12556.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.36316.1196822317.12556.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <3901B84D-BE59-4A4E-A1B2-D4C01C796A26@dartmouth.edu>

Yep, same here only my Spridget was a 20th wedding anniversary  
present from the wife - I got her a teapot!

-m


On Dec 4, 2007, at 9:38 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote:
> Wow! I'm starting to feel truly blessed, what with having far more  
> guns
> and cars and tools than before I got married.

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Wed Dec  5 05:49:39 2007
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 07:49:39 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool In Wisco
Message-ID: <14969407.1196858979387.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Dave,

Have you read Return of the Bugeye pts 1 and 2?

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: David Woerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net>
>Sent: Dec 5, 2007 12:09 AM
>To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cool In Wisco
>
>Ron Soave wrote:
>> --- Hal Faulkner <hal at katemuir.com> wrote:
>>   
>>> Reminds me of why I moved back to CA from MPLS!  
>>>     
>>
>> Ah.....but when it's summer:
>>
>> http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=26&article_id=5935
>>
>> Ron
>>   
>Ahhhh, Grasshopper!  You beat me to it.  That article is without a doubt 
>my favorite Egan article.  He nailed my adolescent years.  I'd toss in 
>Lynndale Farms near Pewaukee, now a subdivision.....sigh.
>Oh, is it snowing outside?  I hadn't noticed.
>
>Dave
>59 :{)
>59 MGA 1500
>05 MCS Burlington WI


________________________________________
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed Dec  5 06:44:13 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 07:44:13 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] WOT -- 2007 SI Sportsman of the Year: Brett Favre
Message-ID: <165401c83744$ecb9c300$6401a8c0@Larry>

MessageGo Pack!



http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/magazine/specials/sportsman/2007/12/03/
sportsman.2007/index.html?eref=T1

From derf247 at gmail.com  Wed Dec  5 08:56:59 2007
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 09:56:59 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] WOT -- 2007 SI Sportsman of the Year: Brett  Favre
In-Reply-To: <165401c83744$ecb9c300$6401a8c0@Larry>
References: <165401c83744$ecb9c300$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910712050756n6fea4723p2f811a3ea071b9d2@mail.gmail.com>

Error 404.
Nevertheless, Go Pack Go.


On 12/5/07, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> MessageGo Pack!
>
>
>
> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/magazine/specials/sportsman/2007/12/03/
> sportsman.2007/index.html?eref=T1
> _______________________________________________
> derf247 at gmail.com
>
> Edit your replies
>
> http://www.team.net/archive
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets

From p.herder at cox.net  Wed Dec  5 09:00:41 2007
From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 10:00:41 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] WOT -- 2007 SI Sportsman of the Year: Brett Favre
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910712050756n6fea4723p2f811a3ea071b9d2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <165401c83744$ecb9c300$6401a8c0@Larry>
	<5f00d9910712050756n6fea4723p2f811a3ea071b9d2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <98BA2F478CB84BC793322D4E11498A9E@PaulVU>

Try:

<http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/magazine/specials/sportsman/2007/12/0
3/sportsman.2007/index.html?eref=T1>

Or

http://tinyurl.com/2sa9em



-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] WOT -- 2007 SI Sportsman of the Year: Brett Favre

Error 404.
Nevertheless, Go Pack Go.


On 12/5/07, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> MessageGo Pack!
>
>
>
>
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/magazine/specials/sportsman/2007/12/03
/
> sportsman.2007/index.html?eref=T1

From lists at woozy.com  Wed Dec  5 09:25:53 2007
From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks)
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 11:25:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] WOT -- 2007 SI Sportsman of the Year: Brett  Favre
In-Reply-To: <165401c83744$ecb9c300$6401a8c0@Larry>
References: <165401c83744$ecb9c300$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <4756D111.5090201@woozy.com>

Who is Brett Favre? With a name like that he must be a hairdresser or 
something.

;-)

Robert



Larry Daniels wrote:
> MessageGo Pack!
>
>
>
> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/magazine/specials/sportsman/2007/12/03/
> sportsman.2007/index.html?eref=T1
> _______________________________________________
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed Dec  5 09:32:45 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 10:32:45 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] WOT -- 2007 SI Sportsman of the Year: Brett  Favre
References: <165401c83744$ecb9c300$6401a8c0@Larry> <4756D111.5090201@woozy.com>
Message-ID: <169901c8375c$77e1ba20$6401a8c0@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Weeks" <lists at woozy.com>
To: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: "Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] WOT -- 2007 SI Sportsman of the Year: Brett Favre


Who is Brett Favre? With a name like that he must be a hairdresser or
something.

;-)

Robert

===========================

Ewwww... Robert, you have the whole state of WI gunning for you now.  You 
may want to stay away until things cool down a bit.  ;-))


LAD 

From mikey at b2systems.com  Wed Dec  5 09:40:31 2007
From: mikey at b2systems.com (Mike Rambour)
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 08:40:31 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Affordable Ferrari on CraigsList
In-Reply-To: <1b2601c83608$3ab55620$0d6a010a@mail2world.com>
References: <1b2601c83608$3ab55620$0d6a010a@mail2world.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071205082430.00e5e6f8@b2systems.com>

   There is a affordable Ferrari :) I own one :)

   ok so it has the FIAT nameplate on it but inside its all Ferrari 
with a awesome twin-overhead cam V6 fed by 3 2-Barrel Webers spinning 
at 8,500RPM and it even looks great.

   Its called a FIAT Dino Spider (they also made a Coupe but why bother).

   In the mid-60s Enzo wanted to go racing in Formula 2 but he needed 
to homolgate the motor, that means he had to build 500 cars with that 
motor before he could race the motor, in those days with a total 
production of less than 400 cars a year he could not build the 500 
cars he needed to homolgate the motor, he made a deal with FIAT and 
FIAT built the car (then kept on building them until they got to 1133 
of them) and he went racing.  The FIAT Dino is even accepted by the 
Ferrari Owners club if you can afford their membership fees (I can't)

	mike

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mike Rambour
Bug Writer err...Programmer       mikey at b2systems.com
*******************************************************************************
http://www.dinospider.com/  all about the ULTIMATE ALMOST a Ferrari
http://www.singercars.com/  all about the ULTIMATE BRITISH sports car
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Wed Dec  5 09:41:33 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 10:41:33 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] WOT -- 2007 SI Sportsman of the Year: Brett Favre
In-Reply-To: <169901c8375c$77e1ba20$6401a8c0@Larry>
References: <165401c83744$ecb9c300$6401a8c0@Larry>
	<4756D111.5090201@woozy.com> <169901c8375c$77e1ba20$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <007601c8375d$b3919d50$1ab4d7f0$@com>

F-A-V-R-E

Spelled like "fav-ray"

Pronounced as "farve"

(only in Alabama and Wisconsin)

Hell of a quarterback. Worshipped like a god (in Alabama, Wisconsin, and
other places).

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Larry Daniels
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:33 AM
To: Robert Weeks
Cc: Spridgets List
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] WOT -- 2007 SI Sportsman of the Year: Brett Favre

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Weeks" <lists at woozy.com>
To: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: "Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] WOT -- 2007 SI Sportsman of the Year: Brett Favre


Who is Brett Favre? With a name like that he must be a hairdresser or
something.

;-)

Robert

===========================

Ewwww... Robert, you have the whole state of WI gunning for you now.  You 
may want to stay away until things cool down a bit.  ;-))


LAD

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed Dec  5 10:33:08 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 11:33:08 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] WOT -- 2007 SI Sportsman of the Year: Brett Favre
References: <165401c83744$ecb9c300$6401a8c0@Larry>
	<4756D111.5090201@woozy.com> <169901c8375c$77e1ba20$6401a8c0@Larry>
	<007601c8375d$b3919d50$1ab4d7f0$@com>
Message-ID: <16aa01c83764$e75a2100$6401a8c0@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson at thicko.com>
To: "'Larry Daniels'" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>; "'Robert Weeks'" 
<lists at woozy.com>
Cc: "'Spridgets List'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:41 AM
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] WOT -- 2007 SI Sportsman of the Year: Brett Favre


F-A-V-R-E

Spelled like "fav-ray"

Pronounced as "farve"

(only in Alabama and Wisconsin)

Hell of a quarterback. Worshipped like a god (in Alabama, Wisconsin, and
other places).
=============================

Are you thinking of Mississippi and Wisconsin? 

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Wed Dec  5 11:09:36 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 12:09:36 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] WOT -- 2007 SI Sportsman of the Year: Brett Favre
In-Reply-To: <16aa01c83764$e75a2100$6401a8c0@Larry>
References: <165401c83744$ecb9c300$6401a8c0@Larry>
	<4756D111.5090201@woozy.com> <169901c8375c$77e1ba20$6401a8c0@Larry>
	<007601c8375d$b3919d50$1ab4d7f0$@com>
	<16aa01c83764$e75a2100$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <002301c8376a$0111bd60$03353820$@com>

Alabama...Mississippi... there's a difference?



-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Daniels [mailto:ladaniels at sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 11:33 AM
To: Wm. Severin Thompson
Cc: 'Spridgets List'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] WOT -- 2007 SI Sportsman of the Year: Brett Favre


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson at thicko.com>
To: "'Larry Daniels'" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>; "'Robert Weeks'" 
<lists at woozy.com>
Cc: "'Spridgets List'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:41 AM
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] WOT -- 2007 SI Sportsman of the Year: Brett Fare


F-A-V-R-E

Spelled like "fav-ray"

Pronounced as "farve"

(only in Alabama and Wisconsin)

Hell of a quarterback. Worshipped like a god (in Alabama, Wisconsin, and
other places).
=============================

Are you thinking of Mississippi and Wisconsin? 

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Wed Dec  5 11:02:34 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 10:02:34 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] WOT -- 2007 SI Sportsman of the Year: Brett Favre
Message-ID: <380-22007123518234953@earthlink.net>

Brett who?  Is that the idiot female stand-up comedian that had her kids
taken away for her stupidity?  OK.  Hum a few bars.  Maybe it will come to
me.

Silas

From derf247 at gmail.com  Wed Dec  5 12:27:13 2007
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 13:27:13 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] WOT -- 2007 SI Sportsman of the Year: Brett  Favre
In-Reply-To: <380-22007123518234953@earthlink.net>
References: <380-22007123518234953@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910712051127j7ca06f43s1d3fbbff940a4e8f@mail.gmail.com>

Only the most prolific football quarterback ever.  Most consecutive
starts, most yards passed, etc. etc.  He is from Mississippi.  The
Mannings are from nearby.  Bradshaw, too.
The Packers are owned by the town, not an idiot gozillionaire.  The
represent what football is supposed to be.  Want season tickets?  Get
on the list now and maybe your great grandkids will get them.

From heard at datatrontech.net  Wed Dec  5 12:29:55 2007
From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 14:29:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] OT - RC helicopter
Message-ID: <20071205193601.TCGG507.cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com@heard>

I know some of you guys (or gals) must be into RC stuff.  Anyone have any
experience with those really small helicopters that can be flown indoors?
I'm looking for something that would be easy to learn to fly.  High crash
tolerance is a must.
 
Thanks,
Heard

From lists at woozy.com  Wed Dec  5 12:52:03 2007
From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks)
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 14:52:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] OT - RC helicopter
In-Reply-To: <20071205193601.TCGG507.cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com@heard>
References: <20071205193601.TCGG507.cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com@heard>
Message-ID: <47570163.5040901@woozy.com>

My son has one of the really small Air Hogs Havoc helicopters. It's 
great, highly recommended. He's run it into the spinning ceiling fan a 
few times and it still works.

<http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/B000NSFO3W/103-2553643-5011018>

Robert



Heard Saxon wrote:
> I know some of you guys (or gals) must be into RC stuff.  Anyone have any
> experience with those really small helicopters that can be flown indoors?
> I'm looking for something that would be easy to learn to fly.  High crash
> tolerance is a must.
>  
> Thanks,
> Heard
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From wsthompson at thicko.com  Wed Dec  5 12:51:14 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 13:51:14 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] OT - RC helicopter
In-Reply-To: <20071205193601.TCGG507.cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com@heard>
References: <20071205193601.TCGG507.cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com@heard>
Message-ID: <005b01c83778$33576d70$9a064850$@com>

Just got the $30 variety from Target... very cool. I fly it around the
shop... it has a 16' ceiling.

Weighs nearly nuthin'... has a quick rechargeable battery... it connects to
the remote to charge.


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Heard Saxon
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 1:30 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] OT - RC helicopter

I know some of you guys (or gals) must be into RC stuff.  Anyone have any
experience with those really small helicopters that can be flown indoors?
I'm looking for something that would be easy to learn to fly.  High crash
tolerance is a must.
 
Thanks,
Heard

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Wed Dec  5 12:53:25 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 13:53:25 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] helo war
Message-ID: <006a01c83778$8181cdb0$84856910$@com>

Hey Larry. we need a pair of these.

 

<http://www.amazon.com/Air-Hogs-Havoc-Laser-Battle/dp/B000Y15UL4/ref=sr_1_4?
ie=UTF8&s=toys-and-games&qid=1196884334&sr=1-4>

 

 

Wm. Severin Thompson

~iii<O



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 <http://www.thicko.com/> www.thicko.com

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From gjbranch at comcast.net  Wed Dec  5 13:14:48 2007
From: gjbranch at comcast.net (Geoff Branch)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 15:14:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] OT - RC helicopter
References: <20071205193601.TCGG507.cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com@heard>
	<005b01c83778$33576d70$9a064850$@com>
Message-ID: <01a101c8377b$7c641ce0$0201a8c0@DELL>

Just don't EVER buy the one from HobbyTron.  It's crap.  All there stuff is 
crap. And they are impossible to deal with.

Geoff Branch
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson at thicko.com>
To: "'Heard Saxon'" <heard at datatrontech.net>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT - RC helicopter


> Just got the $30 variety from Target... very cool. I fly it around the
> shop... it has a 16' ceiling.
>
> Weighs nearly nuthin'... has a quick rechargeable battery... it connects 
> to
> the remote to charge.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf 
> Of
> Heard Saxon
> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 1:30 PM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] OT - RC helicopter
>
> I know some of you guys (or gals) must be into RC stuff.  Anyone have any
> experience with those really small helicopters that can be flown indoors?
> I'm looking for something that would be easy to learn to fly.  High crash
> tolerance is a must.

From davriker at nwi.net  Wed Dec  5 13:15:37 2007
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 12:15:37 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] [criminals, perps, etc]
References: <BAY112-F307333BA4CF438646D0085B86D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <01f001c8377b$9a363cd0$6400a8c0@dave>

I've Been to busy to check the list for 3 days and wow, did I get behind.

Gerard, Sorry about your loss.  Back in the '80's my friend bought a Midget. 
He and I probably had the only two in town.  He bought a brand new full 
tonneau cover, and it was stolen off of the car the first time he used it. 
We have no idea what the theives could have been thinking.  It was way 
before Ebay or Craigslist.

Political rant at risk of starting a thread:

The reason there aren't enough resources to pursue crime investigation is 
the practice of warehousing serious criminals.  All of our law inforcement 
money is consumed housing and feeding the repeat and violent criminals in a 
failed prison system.  If after two strikes you got an automatic death 
penalty carried out within 24 hours of your second appeal, and we could take 
all those prison guards and put them out enforcing laws.  With no more than 
two chances at rehabilitation, the odds of repeat offenders would be very 
small.  Intentional crimes large or small are usually committed because 
either a:  the reward outweighs the risk of being caught, or b:  the reward 
outweighs the cost of the penalty, or both.
David Riker
74 Midget.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Duquette" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 7, Issue 10


> You're not alone there.  I had someone locally tell me that the police
> provided them with a form for their insurance claim and weren't going to
> pursue the matter at all.
>
> I reported a suspicious vehicle that had been parked ( abandoned ) in 
> front
> of my house.  It was stolen.  They didn't print that either. 

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Wed Dec  5 13:20:44 2007
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 12:20:44 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] OT - RC helicopter
References: <20071205193601.TCGG507.cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com@heard>
Message-ID: <001001c8377c$530c8160$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

I've had three of them.  Love 'em.  I cut up the first two and made some 
weird flying toys out of the parts.  The third one flew so well out of the 
box that I've left it mostly intact.  A few things make them fly longer and 
better.  Reduce weight and noise by removing the plastic side "blisters" 
that cover the gears, cut away most of the forward section of the paper tail 
vane, or all of it and replace with a small bit of scotch tape.  There's a 
website that has tons of hop-up tricks once you get bored with the 
out-of-the-box performance, which is pretty darn good already.

Glen Byrns 

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed Dec  5 13:23:10 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 14:23:10 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] OT - RC helicopter
References: <20071205193601.TCGG507.cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com@heard>
	<001001c8377c$530c8160$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <002d01c8377c$a8034c80$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>

> I've had three of them.  Love 'em. 

Of which one, please?

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Dec  5 13:27:10 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 14:27:10 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] helo war
In-Reply-To: <006a01c83778$8181cdb0$84856910$@com>
References: <006a01c83778$8181cdb0$84856910$@com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712051227v7e3e37deh67dbb5fff57c6147@mail.gmail.com>

Can you guys spell; "second childhood"?

Cheers!!
Jim

On 12/5/07, Wm. Severin Thompson <wsthompson at thicko.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Larry. we need a pair of these.
>
>
>
> <
> http://www.amazon.com/Air-Hogs-Havoc-Laser-Battle/dp/B000Y15UL4/ref=sr_1_4
> ?
> ie=UTF8&s=toys-and-games&qid=1196884334&sr=1-4>

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Wed Dec  5 13:32:43 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 14:32:43 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] helo war
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0712051227v7e3e37deh67dbb5fff57c6147@mail.gmail.com>
References: <006a01c83778$8181cdb0$84856910$@com>
	<43840a7e0712051227v7e3e37deh67dbb5fff57c6147@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002701c8377d$fed85810$fc890830$@com>

Dude... I'm still 13 in my head, with occasional bursts to 26 when I need to
make an adult decision...

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Jim Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 2:27 PM
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] helo war

Can you guys spell; "second childhood"?

Cheers!!
Jim

From lists at woozy.com  Wed Dec  5 13:38:52 2007
From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks)
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 15:38:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [criminals, perps, etc]
In-Reply-To: <01f001c8377b$9a363cd0$6400a8c0@dave>
References: <BAY112-F307333BA4CF438646D0085B86D0@phx.gbl>
	<01f001c8377b$9a363cd0$6400a8c0@dave>
Message-ID: <47570C5C.4090701@woozy.com>

David Riker wrote:
> Political rant at risk of starting a thread:
>
> The reason there aren't enough resources to pursue crime investigation is 
> the practice of warehousing serious criminals.  All of our law inforcement 
> money is consumed housing and feeding the repeat and violent criminals in a 
> failed prison system.  If after two strikes you got an automatic death 
> penalty carried out within 24 hours of your second appeal, and we could take 
> all those prison guards and put them out enforcing laws.  With no more than 
> two chances at rehabilitation, the odds of repeat offenders would be very 
> small.  Intentional crimes large or small are usually committed because 
> either a:  the reward outweighs the risk of being caught, or b:  the reward 
> outweighs the cost of the penalty, or both.
> David Riker
> 74 Midget.
Oh hell, let's just kill them after the first strike, then we'd have a 
utopia. The sun would shine everyday in WalMart land.

The prison system doesn't consider itself failed, they are making money 
hand over fist. Building new prisons every day and employing more and 
more guards.

Fact is that the system is clogged up because of the so called "War on 
Drugs". Want to change the system? Stop locking up people for smoking & 
selling pot.

Wait, what am I thinking? It'd be much more fun just to kill 'em.

http://www.motherjones.com/news/special_reports/prisons/

Robert

From peter at nosimport.com  Wed Dec  5 13:39:07 2007
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 14:39:07 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] helo war
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0712051227v7e3e37deh67dbb5fff57c6147@mail.gmail.co
  m>
References: <006a01c83778$8181cdb0$84856910$@com>
	<43840a7e0712051227v7e3e37deh67dbb5fff57c6147@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071205143833.0330b4e0@nosimport.com>

Don't need to now.... just click and drag... ;-)

         Peter C
==
At 02:27 PM 12/5/2007, Jim Johnson wrote:

>Can you guys spell; "second childhood"?
>
>Cheers!!
>Jim

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Wed Dec  5 13:41:29 2007
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 12:41:29 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] OT - RC helicopter
References: <20071205193601.TCGG507.cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com@heard><001001c8377c$530c8160$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
	<002d01c8377c$a8034c80$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <000a01c8377f$36c91060$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

There's lots of information about all the rip-offs, and I wouldn't get one 
of those for my own reasons.  "Havoc" is the name of the company that bought 
the rights and manufactures under license to the inventor.  This is the 
brand you'll find at Target and Costco.  I'm not sure which other retailers 
carry the good ones.  AVOID the knockoffs, innumerable postings about QC 
problems.
My wife doesn't like the sound in the house, [so I use the bugeye's rear 
deck as a landing platform] and fly it around the garage trying to miss all 
the radio antennas and avoid getting cobwebs in the tail rotor.

[actual LBC content!!]
Glen

>> I've had three of them.  Love 'em.
>
> Of which one, please?

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Wed Dec  5 13:49:28 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 14:49:28 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] OT - RC helicopter
In-Reply-To: <000a01c8377f$36c91060$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
References: <20071205193601.TCGG507.cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com@heard><001001c8377c$530c8160$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
	<002d01c8377c$a8034c80$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<000a01c8377f$36c91060$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <002f01c83780$562de8d0$0289ba70$@com>

Hoss, the Wonder Dog... as in "I wonder how much he weighs?" (160lbs) "I
wonder how much he eats?" (More than you can imagine.) "I wonder what his
towing capacity is?" (Better than any Ford.), got sick of trying to sniff it
as it hovered nearby. The prop would whack him in the nose and piss him off.
Finally, he managed to bring it down with a furious chomp...,yet it still
flies.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Glen Byrns
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 2:41 PM
To: David Lieb
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT - RC helicopter

There's lots of information about all the rip-offs, and I wouldn't get one 
of those for my own reasons.  "Havoc" is the name of the company that bought

the rights and manufactures under license to the inventor.  This is the 
brand you'll find at Target and Costco.  I'm not sure which other retailers 
carry the good ones.  AVOID the knockoffs, innumerable postings about QC 
problems.
My wife doesn't like the sound in the house, [so I use the bugeye's rear 
deck as a landing platform] and fly it around the garage trying to miss all 
the radio antennas and avoid getting cobwebs in the tail rotor.

From derf247 at gmail.com  Wed Dec  5 13:51:20 2007
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 14:51:20 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Bipes are good, too. No LBC Content.
Message-ID: <5f00d9910712051251h6ca1b2f1i45ab9cb66df11f5f@mail.gmail.com>

If you like the helis you should try the Air Hogs Aero Ace Biplanes.
Don't get the jets, don't get a knock-off.  Get the Aero Ace Biplane.
A child can fly one easily.  They are for outdoors, though, unless you
have a large area.
Cheers,
Derf

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Wed Dec  5 13:40:30 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 12:40:30 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] WOT -- 2007 SI Sportsman of the Year: Brett  Favre
Message-ID: <380-220071235204030953@earthlink.net>

Flounder wrote:  "Hell of a quarterback."

What's a quarterback?  Change from the vending machine?

Silas

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Dec  5 14:46:31 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:46:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] WOT -- 2007 SI Sportsman of the Year: Brett Favre
In-Reply-To: <380-220071235204030953@earthlink.net>
References: <380-220071235204030953@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <47571C37.6020100@comcast.net>

Robert Bruce Evans wrote:
> Flounder wrote:  "Hell of a quarterback."
> 
> What's a quarterback?  Change from the vending machine?

Man are you really REALLY OLD!
Change from a vending machine ended back in 1962.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed Dec  5 15:07:36 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 16:07:36 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] WOT -- 2007 SI Sportsman of the Year: Brett  Favre
References: <380-220071235204030953@earthlink.net>
	<47571C37.6020100@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <004101c8378b$3efb7d70$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>

> Man are you really REALLY OLD!
> Change from a vending machine ended back in 1962.

I must be missing something here... I just got change back from a vending 
machine last Thursday. 

From peter at nosimport.com  Wed Dec  5 15:20:47 2007
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:20:47 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] WOT -- 2007 SI Sportsman of the Year: Brett Favre
In-Reply-To: <004101c8378b$3efb7d70$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <380-220071235204030953@earthlink.net>
	<47571C37.6020100@comcast.net>
	<004101c8378b$3efb7d70$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071205161927.032fd480@nosimport.com>

At 04:07 PM 12/5/2007, you wrote:

> > Man are you really REALLY OLD!
> > Change from a vending machine ended back in 1962.
>
>I must be missing something here... I just got change back from a vending
>machine last Thursday.
>_______________________________________________


That's very surprising, David.

Are you saying you got a quarter back in Chicago!

HAH!   Evidence says otherwise.


Peter C.

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed Dec  5 15:35:46 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 16:35:46 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] WOT -- 2007 SI Sportsman of the Year: Brett Favre
References: <380-220071235204030953@earthlink.net>
	<47571C37.6020100@comcast.net>
	<004101c8378b$3efb7d70$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20071205161927.032fd480@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <004901c8378f$2de0b010$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>

> Are you saying you got a quarter back in Chicago!
> HAH!   Evidence says otherwise.

Two of them, plus a nickle! Of course, by then I was in downstate Illinois, 
so it was probably an Illini, not a Bear. 

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed Dec  5 16:58:14 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 17:58:14 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] helo war
References: <006a01c83778$8181cdb0$84856910$@com>
	<43840a7e0712051227v7e3e37deh67dbb5fff57c6147@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <179d01c8379a$b3cd0bf0$6401a8c0@Larry>

"Second" childhood?  Are you kidding me?  What in the world makes you think 
we ever left our "first" childhood?

Look at the topics discussed on this list.  We are now a bunch of grown men 
talking about radio-controlled helicopters (toys).  We want to know how to 
soup them up (toys).  We want to buy pairs of them that shoot each other 
down with laser beams (toys).  Look at the cars we drive (toys).  Look at 
what we do to them to make them faster (toys).  We've got guys turbocharging 
them, we've got guys supercharging them, we even have a guy turbocharging 
his BE and adding FI to it (toys).  (Way to go, Glen.  Keep up the good 
work.)

And you ask about "second childhoods"?  HAH!!

Keep playing or you die.

LAD



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] helo war


Can you guys spell; "second childhood"?

Cheers!!
Jim

On 12/5/07, Wm. Severin Thompson <wsthompson at thicko.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Larry. we need a pair of these.
>
>
>
> <
> http://www.amazon.com/Air-Hogs-Havoc-Laser-Battle/dp/B000Y15UL4/ref=sr_1_4
> ?
> ie=UTF8&s=toys-and-games&qid=1196884334&sr=1-4>
_______________________________________________
ladaniels at sbcglobal.net

Edit your replies

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From jlaird237 at cox.net  Wed Dec  5 17:43:31 2007
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 18:43:31 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Request, LBC content
Message-ID: <000601c837a1$06a1d2b0$c7a1bf46@personal>

Does anyone have a rear engine to backing plate gasket they can scan and email
me. I know it would have to be scaned twice because of its size.

Dumb me I should have made copies of all the gaskets when I last got a set.

Appreciate any help, thanks.

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Wed Dec  5 17:54:38 2007
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 16:54:38 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] I want this car...
Message-ID: <0bb101c837a2$93ccc7c0$056a010a@mail2world.com>

True, that. 4out of the 5 vehicles in the fleet were bought on ebay. :)
(The other one she bought new in 1991, and it's still going with 230K on
the clock).
 
-=Chris

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: 63AHBJ7 [63AHBJ7 at comcast.net]
Sent: 12/4/2007 7:13:16 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I want this car... 

<<It helps that she's become even more of a driving enthusiast with the
BMW 
she drives.>> 

Nah Chris, she just loves your e-bay prowess!!! 

LOL 

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed Dec  5 18:11:15 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 19:11:15 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] I want this car...
References: <0bb101c837a2$93ccc7c0$056a010a@mail2world.com>
Message-ID: <001d01c837a4$e676f8e0$0401a8c0@midget>

> True, that. 4out of the 5 vehicles in the fleet were bought on ebay. :)
> (The other one she bought new in 1991, and it's still going with 230K on
> the clock).

And are you still selling that one back and forth to get around the 
emissions? 

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  5 19:02:21 2007
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 18:02:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool In Wisco
In-Reply-To: <14969407.1196858979387.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <969168.67688.qm@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- Mike/Donna Carpenter
<mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> Dave,
> Have you read Return of the Bugeye pts 1 and 2?
> Mike 

That story is what made me want to get a Bugeye when I
was 17, twenty four(!!) years ago. I have met Peter a
few times, and when I remind him of my age when I read
it, he always winces. 

Ron



      ____________________________________________________________________________________
Never miss a thing.  Make Yahoo your home page. 
http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  5 19:10:17 2007
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 18:10:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] helo war
In-Reply-To: <006a01c83778$8181cdb0$84856910$@com>
Message-ID: <308897.29559.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson at thicko.com>
wrote:

> Hey Larry. we need a pair of these.

I'm getting a visual of you guys sitting around in
Flounder's new home office trying to see who can get
the most penicils stuck in the ceiling, Flounder with
his Packers helmet on...

Ron                            


      ____________________________________________________________________________________
Looking for last minute shopping deals?  
Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.  http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Wed Dec  5 22:24:18 2007
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel)
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 23:24:18 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool In Wisco
In-Reply-To: <969168.67688.qm@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <969168.67688.qm@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <47578782.1000207@wi.net>

Ron Soave wrote:
> --- Mike/Donna Carpenter
> <mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com> wrote:
>   
>> Dave,
>> Have you read Return of the Bugeye pts 1 and 2?
>> Mike 
>>     
>
> That story is what made me want to get a Bugeye when I
> was 17, twenty four(!!) years ago. I have met Peter a
> few times, and when I remind him of my age when I read
> it, he always winces. 
>
> Ron
>   
Mike and Ron I understand why Peter would wince.  The story was written, 
I believe, in 1985 and I purchased the Bugeye in 1977.  We just 
celebrated out 30th anniversary in early September.  I asked Peter about 
my car as he states his was dark blue when it was stolen in Milwaukee.  
Mine was dark blue when I purchased it in Milwaukee.  Hmmmm.  We 
determined it isn't the same car.  I first saw a Bugeye in 1960 at Road 
America and then I crewed a bit with bunch of guys from Waukesha.  I had 
a 65 Mustang at the time and they raced Bugeyes and MGB's.  Traded the 
Mustang for a 68 MGB and it was lbc's from then on; but not as daily 
transportation.  The Bugeye found me long after the MGB was gone 
(replaced by a 73 Ford Capri 2800).  Peter sure does get our juices 
going with his articles!  It's 7*F outside and I'm going to pour a warm 
libation and reread "At Large".
Cheers!

Dave
59 :{)
59 MGA 1500
05 MCS
Burlington WI

From pythias at pacifier.com  Wed Dec  5 23:03:00 2007
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 22:03:00 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] RC helicopter
Message-ID: <652563598.20071205220300@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

  for those who are quick enough.. $10.00 +$5.00 shipping Thursday
  only at

  http://www.woot.com.

  or until they're gone.  shipping is per order, not per helicopter!!
  
  

-- 
Best regards,
Bill                             mailto:pythias at pacifier.com

 '66 Sprite "the red thing" (HAN8L 49403)

 "I don't want you delivering my mail any more - it never arrives on time," Tom expostulated.

From thefirebuilds at gmail.com  Wed Dec  5 23:10:00 2007
From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 00:10:00 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] RC helicopter
In-Reply-To: <652563598.20071205220300@pacifier.com>
References: <652563598.20071205220300@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <8a336b9d0712052210n6953aa8ct16902fb1986ecb3@mail.gmail.com>

Good find!  A mess of people are getting these as xmas presents this year.




On Dec 6, 2007 12:03 AM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:

> Hello Spridgets,
>
>  for those who are quick enough.. $10.00 +$5.00 shipping Thursday
>  only at
>
>  http://www.woot.com.
>
>  or until they're gone.  shipping is per order, not per helicopter!!
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Bill                             mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
>  '66 Sprite "the red thing" (HAN8L 49403)
>
>  "I don't want you delivering my mail any more - it never arrives on
> time," Tom expostulated.
> _______________________________________________
>
>


-- 
"I'll be true, I'll be useful...
I'll be cavalier...i'll be yours my dear.
And I'll belong to you..." - Dashboard

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Wed Dec  5 23:47:52 2007
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 22:47:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] RC helicopter
In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0712052210n6953aa8ct16902fb1986ecb3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <652563598.20071205220300@pacifier.com>
	<8a336b9d0712052210n6953aa8ct16902fb1986ecb3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <28930a6d314a656f8a5f78a.20071205224752.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com>

This is probably one of the knock-offs that come in from China.  Be
careful.  They DO NOT fly that well.  You should only buy Air Hogs or
Silverlit brand.  Air Hogs are licensed by SIlverlit to make these
helicopters.  Silverlit was the original, the rest are knock-offs.  I have
bought several and found out the hard way.  Take it from someone that has
been into RC since 1965.  These little helicopters look simple, but they
are a very sophisticated design.  Cut corners, ie. $10 copter, and it will
not fly very well.  Try Ebay.  They are all over it.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2
1970 Ace Pulse Commander and Carl Goldberg Jr Falcon
Sig Sr Kadet, Futaba radio and O.S. .70 FSII
Carl Goldberg Sr Falcon, Futaba radio and O.S. .46 AX


Flash.
> Good find!  A mess of people are getting these as xmas presents this year.
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 6, 2007 12:03 AM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Spridgets,
>>
>>  for those who are quick enough.. $10.00 +$5.00 shipping Thursday
>>  only at
>>
>>  http://www.woot.com.
>>
>>  or until they're gone.  shipping is per order, not per helicopter!!
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Bill                             mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>>
>>  '66 Sprite "the red thing" (HAN8L 49403)

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Dec  5 23:50:09 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 00:50:09 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] helo war
In-Reply-To: <308897.29559.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <006a01c83778$8181cdb0$84856910$@com>
	<308897.29559.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712052250o706a0104w73e532ad0bd27db@mail.gmail.com>

Yes.  And with each passing day they get closer to sitting there in diapers
sucking on teething rings....   ;-)

Cheers!!
The "more mature" Jim...

Is too!  IS not!  Is too!! IS not!!  Is not!! Is too!  IS not! Is too!  IS
not! Is too!  IS not! Is too!  IS not!

On 12/5/07, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> --- "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson at thicko.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hey Larry. we need a pair of these.
>
> I'm getting a visual of you guys sitting around in
> Flounder's new home office trying to see who can get
> the most penicils stuck in the ceiling, Flounder with
> his Packers helmet on...
>
> Ron
>
>
>
>       ____________________________________________________________________________________
> Looking for last minute shopping deals?
> Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
> http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
> _______________________________________________
> bmwwxman at gmail.com
>
> Edit your replies
>
> http://www.team.net/archive
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets
>



-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Thu Dec  6 02:39:07 2007
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 03:39:07 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] RC helicopter
In-Reply-To: <28930a6d314a656f8a5f78a.20071205224752.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com>
References: <652563598.20071205220300@pacifier.com>
	<8a336b9d0712052210n6953aa8ct16902fb1986ecb3@mail.gmail.com>
	<28930a6d314a656f8a5f78a.20071205224752.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090712060139i5ab5646aud8f3231ed1acb7b5@mail.gmail.com>

If you read the blurb, it tells you the remote doesn't work that well, so
buy a couple, as they DO crash. I recently purchased a HXDragonfly251. I
have yet to open it, are those any good? I figured for $22 new in the box,
what the hell...

On Dec 6, 2007 12:47 AM, <rrengineer at dslextreme.com> wrote:

> This is probably one of the knock-offs that come in from China.  Be
> careful.  They DO NOT fly that well.  You should only buy Air Hogs or
> Silverlit brand.  Air Hogs are licensed by SIlverlit to make these
> helicopters.  Silverlit was the original, the rest are knock-offs.  I have
> bought several and found out the hard way.  Take it from someone that has
> been into RC since 1965.  These little helicopters look simple, but they
> are a very sophisticated design.  Cut corners, ie. $10 copter, and it will
> not fly very well.  Try Ebay.  They are all over it.
> Mike MacLean
> 60 Sprite
> 56 BN2
> 1970 Ace Pulse Commander and Carl Goldberg Jr Falcon
> Sig Sr Kadet, Futaba radio and O.S. .70 FSII
> Carl Goldberg Sr Falcon, Futaba radio and O.S. .46 AX
>
>
> Flash.
> > Good find!  A mess of people are getting these as xmas presents this
> year.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Dec 6, 2007 12:03 AM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello Spridgets,
> >>
> >>  for those who are quick enough.. $10.00 +$5.00 shipping Thursday
> >>  only at
> >>
> >>  http://www.woot.com.
> >>
> >>  or until they're gone.  shipping is per order, not per helicopter!!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best regards,
> >> Bill                             mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
> >>
> >>  '66 Sprite "the red thing" (HAN8L 49403)
> _______________________________________________
> tequila.brad at gmail.com
>
> Edit your replies
>
> http://www.team.net/archive
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets
>



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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Dec  6 03:33:07 2007
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 05:33:07 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Very nice priced 59 Bugeye for sale
Message-ID: <205cef430712060233o190544b7s2c210f0e8de22122@mail.gmail.com>

List this 59 was just painted and looks really sweet. Someone on the list
has got to check it out. he is in Ohio and only wants $6800.
http://columbus.craigslist.org/car/471190969.html
He sent me some photos and if I had the cash it would be mine.
Enjoy,
Linda

62 California Sprite "Pinky"
www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Thu Dec  6 05:51:36 2007
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 07:51:36 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool In Wisco
Message-ID: <8166586.1196945496334.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hey Ron and Dave,

I guess that we are similar in age and fell in love with Bugeyes with the same Impetus.  I actually use to go with my father to the SCCA in the mid to late 1970s and I was attracted to Bugeyes by watching the owners/drivers working on them between races.  I still have pictures of the first Bugeye that I saw.  When I first saw the Bugeyes, i didn't know that they were so reasonable in price and so many of them built.  Once Peter Egans article was on the newstand and I read both articles probably 20 times, it has been downhill since!  There has been a Bugeye or two with me ever since 1985.

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: David Woerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net>
>Sent: Dec 6, 2007 12:24 AM
>To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cool In Wisco
>
>Ron Soave wrote:
>> --- Mike/Donna Carpenter
>> <mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com> wrote:
>>   
>>> Dave,
>>> Have you read Return of the Bugeye pts 1 and 2?
>>> Mike 
>>>     
>>
>> That story is what made me want to get a Bugeye when I
>> was 17, twenty four(!!) years ago. I have met Peter a
>> few times, and when I remind him of my age when I read
>> it, he always winces. 
>>
>> Ron
>>   
>Mike and Ron I understand why Peter would wince.  The story was written, 
>I believe, in 1985 and I purchased the Bugeye in 1977.  We just 
>celebrated out 30th anniversary in early September.  I asked Peter about 
>my car as he states his was dark blue when it was stolen in Milwaukee.  
>Mine was dark blue when I purchased it in Milwaukee.  Hmmmm.  We 
>determined it isn't the same car.  I first saw a Bugeye in 1960 at Road 
>America and then I crewed a bit with bunch of guys from Waukesha.  I had 
>a 65 Mustang at the time and they raced Bugeyes and MGB's.  Traded the 
>Mustang for a 68 MGB and it was lbc's from then on; but not as daily 
>transportation.  The Bugeye found me long after the MGB was gone 
>(replaced by a 73 Ford Capri 2800).  Peter sure does get our juices 
>going with his articles!  It's 7*F outside and I'm going to pour a warm 
>libation and reread "At Large".
>Cheers!
>
>Dave
>59 :{)
>59 MGA 1500
>05 MCS
>Burlington WI
>_______________________________________________


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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec  6 06:41:49 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 07:41:49 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] helo war
References: <006a01c83778$8181cdb0$84856910$@com><308897.29559.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<43840a7e0712052250o706a0104w73e532ad0bd27db@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <181b01c8380d$c0ff5b70$6401a8c0@Larry>

Teething rings?  Nobody told me about the teething rings.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
To: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 12:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] helo war


Yes.  And with each passing day they get closer to sitting there in diapers
sucking on teething rings....   ;-)

Cheers!!
The "more mature" Jim...

Is too!  IS not!  Is too!! IS not!!  Is not!! Is too!  IS not! Is too!  IS
not! Is too!  IS not! Is too!  IS not!

On 12/5/07, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> --- "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson at thicko.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hey Larry. we need a pair of these.
>
> I'm getting a visual of you guys sitting around in
> Flounder's new home office trying to see who can get
> the most penicils stuck in the ceiling, Flounder with
> his Packers helmet on...
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> 
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-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
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From heard at datatrontech.net  Thu Dec  6 06:45:42 2007
From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 08:45:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] RC helicopter
In-Reply-To: <28930a6d314a656f8a5f78a.20071205224752.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com>
Message-ID: <20071206135149.GCCJ26419.cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com@heard>

Picked up a 3 pack of the Air Hogs last night at Super Target.  I think they
were $25/ea.  Can't wait for Christmas! (or Xmas for you heathens)

Heard

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+heard=datatrontech.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+heard=datatrontech.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of rrengineer at dslextreme.com
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 1:48 AM
To: Flash.
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] RC helicopter

This is probably one of the knock-offs that come in from China.  Be
careful.  They DO NOT fly that well.  You should only buy Air Hogs or
Silverlit brand.  Air Hogs are licensed by SIlverlit to make these
helicopters.  Silverlit was the original, the rest are knock-offs.  I have
bought several and found out the hard way.  Take it from someone that has
been into RC since 1965.  These little helicopters look simple, but they
are a very sophisticated design.  Cut corners, ie. $10 copter, and it will
not fly very well.  Try Ebay.  They are all over it.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2
1970 Ace Pulse Commander and Carl Goldberg Jr Falcon
Sig Sr Kadet, Futaba radio and O.S. .70 FSII
Carl Goldberg Sr Falcon, Futaba radio and O.S. .46 AX


Flash.
> Good find!  A mess of people are getting these as xmas presents this year.
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 6, 2007 12:03 AM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Spridgets,
>>
>>  for those who are quick enough.. $10.00 +$5.00 shipping Thursday
>>  only at
>>
>>  http://www.woot.com.
>>
>>  or until they're gone.  shipping is per order, not per helicopter!!
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Bill                             mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>>
>>  '66 Sprite "the red thing" (HAN8L 49403)
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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Thu Dec  6 08:08:57 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 09:08:57 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] RC helicopter
References: <20071206135149.GCCJ26419.cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com@heard>
Message-ID: <005301c83819$ed38ce40$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>

> Picked up a 3 pack of the Air Hogs last night at Super Target.  I think 
> they
> were $25/ea.  Can't wait for Christmas! (or Xmas for you heathens)

Someone with a Saxon name calling US heathens???

From thefirebuilds at gmail.com  Thu Dec  6 08:14:53 2007
From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 09:14:53 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] RC helicopter
In-Reply-To: <005301c83819$ed38ce40$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <20071206135149.GCCJ26419.cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com@heard>
	<005301c83819$ed38ce40$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <8a336b9d0712060714y2a889ca4q8e6d87b63b6728d8@mail.gmail.com>

We call it Winter Carnival here now anyway.  No reason to exclude the
Muzzies or Hebrews.

On 12/6/07, David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com> wrote:
>
> > Picked up a 3 pack of the Air Hogs last night at Super Target.  I think
> > they
> > were $25/ea.  Can't wait for Christmas! (or Xmas for you heathens)
>
> Someone with a Saxon name calling US heathens???
>



-- 
"Well you are the one, the one that lies close to me
Whisper's "Hello, I've missed you quite terribly"
I fell in love, in love with you suddenly
Now there's no place else I could be but here in your arms" - Hellogoodbye

From John.Deikis at va.gov  Thu Dec  6 08:57:05 2007
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 10:57:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [criminals, perps, etc]
In-Reply-To: <01f001c8377b$9a363cd0$6400a8c0@dave>
References: <BAY112-F307333BA4CF438646D0085B86D0@phx.gbl>
	<01f001c8377b$9a363cd0$6400a8c0@dave>
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA94029214DA@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

Sure feels right on an emotional level
...but looks pretty scary when thought through rationally.
I would hope somewhere between the bleeding hearts and the Ayatollah's
Shiria Law we could come up with a consistent and affordable way to deal
with crime-- civil as well as governmental.


-----Original Message-----
From: David Riker [mailto:davriker at nwi.net]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 3:16 PM
To: Robert Duquette; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [criminals, perps, etc]

I've Been to busy to check the list for 3 days and wow, did I get
behind.

Gerard, Sorry about your loss.  Back in the '80's my friend bought a
Midget.
He and I probably had the only two in town.  He bought a brand new full
tonneau cover, and it was stolen off of the car the first time he used
it.
We have no idea what the theives could have been thinking.  It was way
before Ebay or Craigslist.

Political rant at risk of starting a thread:

The reason there aren't enough resources to pursue crime investigation
is
the practice of warehousing serious criminals.  All of our law
inforcement
money is consumed housing and feeding the repeat and violent criminals
in a
failed prison system.  If after two strikes you got an automatic death
penalty carried out within 24 hours of your second appeal, and we could
take
all those prison guards and put them out enforcing laws.  With no more
than
two chances at rehabilitation, the odds of repeat offenders would be
very
small.  Intentional crimes large or small are usually committed because
either a:  the reward outweighs the risk of being caught, or b:  the
reward
outweighs the cost of the penalty, or both.
David Riker
74 Midget.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Duquette" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 7, Issue 10


> You're not alone there.  I had someone locally tell me that the police
> provided them with a form for their insurance claim and weren't going
to
> pursue the matter at all.
>
> I reported a suspicious vehicle that had been parked ( abandoned ) in
> front
> of my house.  It was stolen.  They didn't print that either.

From bilbostuufff at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  6 09:07:57 2007
From: bilbostuufff at yahoo.com (John Colclasure)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 08:07:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Alternator Question
Message-ID: <699532.56272.qm@web56005.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

I am sure this is a silly question, but I will ask anyway. What is the plastice like piece attached to the alternator and can it be replaced. The one I have feels loose on the alternator and my red light seems to keep going on (79 midget), I am guessing that is the culprit...
       
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Dec  6 09:12:19 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 10:12:19 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks,
	June 26-29, 2008
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712060812j43e87571q303b13b537239472@mail.gmail.com>

An update on the 50th celebration at Lake of the Ozarks...

First of all, some folks have been told by the hotel that the hotel is
booked up.  That's true... WE have the entire hotel booked!  Be sure to tell
them you are with the "Spridgets" group and they will get you in. There are
still rooms left as of today at our special rate.

Some have asked about tech sessions...   Here's what we know as of now...

Frank Clarici is heading up the tech sessions.  There will be a session on
shock rebuilds by Peter Caldwell. Kevin Valentine and Frank Clarici will
team up on a basic body work session. There will be a "Stump the Mechanic"
contest with appropriate award. Frank will do a session on how to fix your
brake light switch. We are working on getting Glen Byrns to give a talk on
his Electronic Fuel Injection system.

Registrations continue to roll in for the event.  Don't be left out!!  The
hotel is filling up...  Tell Santa you want a registration for Christmas!!

For info and to pre-register, go to:  <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Thu Dec  6 09:17:33 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 10:17:33 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Alternator Question
References: <699532.56272.qm@web56005.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <005d01c83823$82e7f6b0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>

>I am sure this is a silly question, but I will ask anyway. What is the 
>plastice like piece attached to the alternator and can it be replaced. The 
>one I have feels loose on the alternator and my red light seems to keep 
>going on (79 midget), I am guessing that is the culprit...

John,
You can expect the red light to come on when you start the car and to 
flicker whenever the engine is under 1100rpm or so. Are you referring to the 
plastic cap on the back of the alternator? Just a shield to the best of my 
knowledge. Might be a good idea to replace the brushes and tighten up the 
electrical connections, too. Take pictures BEFORE you disconnect anything in 
there. There are at least three different standards involved and you will be 
much better off if you can look at how yours was than trying to make sense 
of multiple answers from us ;-)

If you go to http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/ and hit the "Spanners" link on the 
left, you can work your way through to some very good info on 
trouble-shooting your alternator.
David Lieb 

From lists at woozy.com  Thu Dec  6 09:29:23 2007
From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks)
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 11:29:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Alternator Question - different question
In-Reply-To: <005d01c83823$82e7f6b0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <699532.56272.qm@web56005.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<005d01c83823$82e7f6b0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <47582363.1050309@woozy.com>

That reminds me, I have a different alternator question. I bought a used 
spridget alternator on ebay a while back and it's been sitting in my 
shed. What is involved with converting my  '70 Midget that currently 
uses a generator to using this alternator? Might be something to keep me 
out of trouble for a few hours when the weather gets colder.

Thanks,

Robert

From nases at verizon.net  Thu Dec  6 09:27:58 2007
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 11:27:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] starter motor and generator color
Message-ID: <001901c83824$f70de440$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com>

The ones I have are (were) painted black.  Weren't they engine color
originally?
 
Any way to convert to an alternator and make an original looking Bugeye tach
working? 
 

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa

From hal at katemuir.com  Thu Dec  6 09:34:52 2007
From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 08:34:52 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Craigs List '69 Midget with hard top FS
Message-ID: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFEEDLFGAA.hal@katemuir.com>

Hey Spridgeteers,
Found this in Sacramento Craigs List 
http://tinyurl.com/2gl6ua
or for those who prefer
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/car/496534426.html

NFI, etc.

Hal

From JNBrashear at garverengineers.com  Thu Dec  6 10:24:13 2007
From: JNBrashear at garverengineers.com (Brashear, Jack, N)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 11:24:13 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Need Email address for Frank Clarici
Message-ID: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE6037D618E@glitas07.garverinc.local>

Please ??  My email attempts keep getting bounced back.

Jack

From dmg at bossig.com  Thu Dec  6 10:26:56 2007
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 09:26:56 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye story
Message-ID: <4757C060.15699.3D0B71@dmg.bossig.com>

Can somebody point me to Pts 1 and 11 od the bugeye Saga??
TIA

-
Dave G, KK7SS
'65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec  6 11:29:12 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 12:29:12 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Minator Wheel Fitment
Message-ID: <006001c83835$e68cfa00$6401a8c0@Larry>

Has anybody tried to fit 5.5 inch Minators on a square arch 1/4 elliptic Mark
II Sprite or Mark I Midget?

Any problems and what size tires did you use if it fit without rubbing?

Thanks,

LAD

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Thu Dec  6 10:55:06 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 09:55:06 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] eBay officials may face arrest?
Message-ID: <380-22007124617556796@earthlink.net>

Rick Williston wrote: Not sure what it being in France has to do with it, but it is a bit farfetched. As long as e-Bay provides seller's information when fraud is present I don't see how they can be held accountable for anything>
My aunt fanny they should not be held accountable. Since its very inception, eBay has refused to accept any and all responsibility for those who perpetrate fraud on their site. And I have the documentation to prove it.
I have had some experience in authenticating some early 20th century western/cowboy art of the Taos Society of Artists, including for Sothebys. (My wifes uncle was one of the founders of the Society, we collect his work, and we are involved with other descendants and his biographer.)
I have found numerous fakes and frauds asserting they were by Buck Dunton or other of the six founders. I have notified eBay *in detail*, and I have had other family members and experts contact eBay. Each time, eBay responded that their hands were clean because they only provided a forum for buyers and sellers to meet. They insisted it was not the role to ensure the legitimacy of anything, OR TO TAKE ANY ACTION in the case of fraud. In all of the complaints I was involved with, eBay refused to remove, investigate, or take any kind of action against the those involved in fraud involving significant thousands of dollars.
Fortunately, better luck was found by going to some States Attorneys General. New York was particularly cooperative, taking evidence and indicting one ring that stretched from New York to Florida.
In my view, when eBay is notified of suspected (or known) fraud, it simply becomes a co-conspirator in the fraud being perpetrated when it claims no responsibility.
(I will say that there are bargains. For a couple of hundred dollars, one train buff purchased a painting of a locomotive engineer in a train crash. Although, it was completely out of Uncle Bucks genre, it bore his signature. I was initially skeptical, but we were later able to authenticate it by finding the original illustration in, as I recall, a Colliers magazine! Its value? About $50,000 (a paltry sum because it was not in his specialty of cowboys and the west, about which he was an expert.)
Buster Evans

From grday at btinternet.com  Thu Dec  6 14:30:04 2007
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 21:30:04 -0000
Subject: [Spridgets] eBay officials may face arrest?
References: <380-22007124617556796@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <005401c8384f$2ab53670$9f099356@tairswork>

Different Countries, different laws.
Remember in some Countries you can go to jail for calling a teddy bear 
Muhammed.


Guy R Day


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Bruce Evans" <b-evans at earthlink.net>
To: <bugeye at yahoogroups.com>;
Cc: <Spridgets at autox.team.net>; <midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>;
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] eBay officials may face arrest?


> Rick Williston wrote: Not sure what it being in France has to do with it, 
> but it is a bit farfetched. As long as e-Bay provides seller's 
> information when fraud is present I don't see how they can be held 
> accountable for anything>
> My aunt fanny they should not be held accountable. Since its very 
> inception, eBay has refused to accept any and all responsibility for those 
> who perpetrate fraud on their site. And I have the documentation to prove 
> it.
> I have had some experience in authenticating some early 20th century 
> western/cowboy art of the Taos Society of Artists, including for 
> Sothebys. (My wifes uncle was one of the founders of the Society, we 
> collect his work, and we are involved with other descendants and his 
> biographer.)
> I have found numerous fakes and frauds asserting they were by Buck Dunton 
> or other of the six founders. I have notified eBay *in detail*, and I have 
> had other family members and experts contact eBay. Each time, eBay 
> responded that their hands were clean because they only provided a forum 
> for buyers and sellers to meet. They insisted it was not the role to 
> ensure the legitimacy of anything, OR TO TAKE ANY ACTION in the case of 
> fraud. In all of the complaints I was involved with, eBay refused to 
> remove, investigate, or take any kind of action against the those involved 
> in fraud involving significant thousands of dollars.
> Fortunately, better luck was found by going to some States Attorneys 
> General. New York was particularly cooperative, taking evidence and 
> indicting one ring that stretched from New York to Florida.
> In my view, when eBay is notified of suspected (or known) fraud, it simply 
> becomes a co-conspirator in the fraud being perpetrated when it claims no 
> responsibility.
> (I will say that there are bargains. For a couple of hundred dollars, one 
> train buff purchased a painting of a locomotive engineer in a train crash. 
> Although, it was completely out of Uncle Bucks genre, it bore his 
> signature. I was initially skeptical, but we were later able to 
> authenticate it by finding the original illustration in, as I recall, a 
> Colliers magazine! Its value? About $50,000 (a paltry sum because it was 
> not in his specialty of cowboys and the west, about which he was an 
> expert.)
> Buster Evans

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Thu Dec  6 16:20:35 2007
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel)
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 17:20:35 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye story
In-Reply-To: <4757C060.15699.3D0B71@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <4757C060.15699.3D0B71@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <475883C3.3020707@wi.net>

Dave G. wrote:
> Can somebody point me to Pts 1 and 11 od the bugeye Saga??
> TIA
>
> -
> Dave G, KK7SS
> '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA
>   
Dave,

Look for Peter Egan "At Large", Published by Brooklands Books Ltd.  ISBN 
# 185520 3480
It was sold by Road & Track and is a compilation of Egan's articles 
1983-1994
"Return of the Bugeye" parts 1 & 2 can be found in the June & July 1985 
issues.
It was distributed in the U.S.A. by:
CarTech
11481 Kost Dam Rd.
North Branch MN 55056
ph: 1.800.551.4754  or  612.583.3471

For those in Olde Blighty:
Brooklands Books Ltd.
PO Box 146
Cobham Surrey
KT11 1LG
England
ph: 01932 865051
email: sales at brooklands-books.com

And in OZ:
Brooklands Books Ltd.
1/81 Darley St.
PO Box 199
Mona Vale
NSW 2103
Australia

Check the big chains for it also.

There is a second compilation available also entitled "Side Glances" 
1983-1997.  Published jointly by Brooklands and Road & Track.
Road & Track
1499 Monrovia Ave.
Newport Beach CA 92663
www.roadandtrack.com

Best of luck!

Regards,

Dave
59 :{)
59 MGA 1500
05 MCS
Burlington WI

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Thu Dec  6 16:49:18 2007
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 15:49:18 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] I want this car...
Message-ID: <280701c83862$9d9cf980$0d6a010a@mail2world.com>

No, actually. I replaced the valve stem seals after the rally. No more
blue smoke, passed emmisions easily. I've put 35K miles on it since
then.
 
I just replaced the rear brake shoes for the first time in more than
100K miles, and now the e-brake doesn't work. A little too cold now to
figure out what's not right, but I'll definitely need to get to it by
next April, when it's due to be inspected again.
 
-=Chris

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: David Lieb [dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com]
Sent: 12/5/2007 8:15:15 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I want this car... 

> True, that. 4out of the 5 vehicles in the fleet were bought on ebay.
:) 
> (The other one she bought new in 1991, and it's still going with 230K
on 
> the clock). 

And are you still selling that one back and forth to get around the 
emissions? 
_______________________________________________ 

. 

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Dec  6 17:17:42 2007
From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 18:17:42 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Midget rear leaf spring bushes.
Message-ID: <069401c83866$96297c60$6501a8c0@actualshop>

Ladies & Gentlemen:

I do not re-call whom started the gripe thread about these, but as a
Distributor for Moss I forwarded said gripe to one of their gents who DOES
care about his Company.

His reply follows and I hope answers the questions.

Ed
*************************************************************************
----- Original Message -----
From: Dodd, Kelvi_
To: EDatJust
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 5:18 PM
Subject: Midget rear leaf spring bushes.


Ok. We went all the way back to England and are scrapping the whole lot as
being undersize. This isn't one we make, but we have something like 1500 of
them in the system.

Now we have to find someone that has made them correctly.

Please pass along a thank you to the list members. Until we can find another
source, we are suggesting our customers install the poly bushes. More money,
but they last longer.

Kelvin Dodd

Global Sourcing Engineer,  Moss Motors, Ltd.

www.mossmotors.com

440 Rutherford Street

Goleta, CA 93117


Phone : 805.679.7023

Fax:      805.692.2520

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Thu Dec  6 17:46:32 2007
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 18:46:32 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Fw: Midget rear leaf spring
	bushes.
References: <069401c83866$96297c60$6501a8c0@actualshop>
Message-ID: <002501c8386a$9c93cd40$c7a1bf46@personal>

Well I'll be, Nice answer as I would expect from Moss.

Oh Ed, I did make a gasket today.


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: shop at justbrits.com
  To: bugeye at yahoogroups.com ; midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com ; Spridgets
  Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 6:17 PM
  Subject: Bugeye Group..... Fw: Midget rear leaf spring bushes.


  Ladies & Gentlemen:

  I do not re-call whom started the gripe thread about these, but as a
Distributor for Moss I forwarded said gripe to one of their gents who DOES
care about his Company.

  His reply follows and I hope answers the questions.

  Ed
  *************************************************************************
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Dodd, Kelvi_
  To: EDatJust
  Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 5:18 PM
  Subject: Midget rear leaf spring bushes.

  Ok. We went all the way back to England and are scrapping the whole lot as
being undersize. This isn't one we make, but we have something like 1500 of
them in the system.

  Now we have to find someone that has made them correctly.

  Please pass along a thank you to the list members. Until we can find another
source, we are suggesting our customers install the poly bushes. More money,
but they last longer.

  Kelvin Dodd

  Global Sourcing Engineer, Moss Motors, Ltd.

  www.mossmotors.com

  440 Rutherford Street

  Goleta, CA 93117

  Phone : 805.679.7023

  Fax: 805.692.2520

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From dmg at bossig.com  Thu Dec  6 17:50:57 2007
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 16:50:57 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye story
In-Reply-To: <475883C3.3020707@wi.net>
References: <4757C060.15699.3D0B71@dmg.bossig.com>, <475883C3.3020707@wi.net>
Message-ID: <47582871.7450.1D38E75@dmg.bossig.com>

David W.,

Thank you very much for the info...
Now the hunt begins....

<G>

-
Dave G, KK7SS
'65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Dec  6 17:52:29 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 19:52:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] SOS '07 the time is now
In-Reply-To: <B671E636-B03C-406B-A6E5-280717747630@gerardsgarage.com>
References: <002401c82dcb$d1db99a0$7592cce0$@com>
	<47475C80.30604@comcast.net> <00a401c82e38$6b7030a0$425091e0$@com>
	<6F9708A3-E067-4484-91BE-BCF279803509@gerardsgarage.com>
	<A16A3A4D-F61D-4DDF-A89D-5C2188BB695B@phillymgclub.com>
	<B671E636-B03C-406B-A6E5-280717747630@gerardsgarage.com>
Message-ID: <4758994D.9040705@comcast.net>

Gerard Chateauvieux wrote:

> Sold the '72 Midget... it's now in New Jersey somewhere,

Gerard

It's in my area. I know the guy who bought it from you.
I gave you positive reviews ;)
He has a couple of Minis, he works with my daughter in law,
He is not mechanical. I ask him questions now and then but he doesn't 
have a clue.
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Thu Dec  6 18:06:32 2007
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 17:06:32 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] SOS '07 the time is now
In-Reply-To: <4758994D.9040705@comcast.net>
References: <002401c82dcb$d1db99a0$7592cce0$@com>
	<47475C80.30604@comcast.net> <00a401c82e38$6b7030a0$425091e0$@com>
	<6F9708A3-E067-4484-91BE-BCF279803509@gerardsgarage.com>
	<A16A3A4D-F61D-4DDF-A89D-5C2188BB695B@phillymgclub.com>
	<B671E636-B03C-406B-A6E5-280717747630@gerardsgarage.com>
	<4758994D.9040705@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <441250190712061706k36ec8d1dy972b15a25bf5407c@mail.gmail.com>

As him questions for what, "sport?" :-)

-g

On Dec 6, 2007 4:52 PM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> Gerard Chateauvieux wrote:
>
> > Sold the '72 Midget... it's now in New Jersey somewhere,
>
> Gerard
>
> It's in my area. I know the guy who bought it from you.
> I gave you positive reviews ;)
> He has a couple of Minis, he works with my daughter in law,
> He is not mechanical. I ask him questions now and then but he doesn't
> have a clue.
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
>  _______________________________________________
> wmgilroy at gmail.com
>
> Edit your replies
>
> http://www.team.net/archive
>
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From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Thu Dec  6 18:28:05 2007
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 17:28:05 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] SOS '07 the time is now
In-Reply-To: <4758994D.9040705@comcast.net>
References: <002401c82dcb$d1db99a0$7592cce0$@com>
	<47475C80.30604@comcast.net> <00a401c82e38$6b7030a0$425091e0$@com>
	<6F9708A3-E067-4484-91BE-BCF279803509@gerardsgarage.com>
	<A16A3A4D-F61D-4DDF-A89D-5C2188BB695B@phillymgclub.com>
	<B671E636-B03C-406B-A6E5-280717747630@gerardsgarage.com>
	<4758994D.9040705@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <6D5573AA-1A90-4D51-8C15-F97C3A321B3A@gerardsgarage.com>

He Frank,

The guy that bought it (Mike Brown, I think was his name) from me,  
sold it to someone else within a year. So, is the guy you refer to  
the second owner or has it been that long since you've seen it? I  
know Mike was into Minis as well.

Picture below he sent me from Joisey

Gerard

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 72midget.jpg]
On Dec 6, 2007, at 4:52 PM, Frank Clarici wrote:

>
> Gerard Chateauvieux wrote:
>
>> Sold the '72 Midget... it's now in New Jersey somewhere,
>
> Gerard
>
> It's in my area. I know the guy who bought it from you.
> I gave you positive reviews ;)
> He has a couple of Minis, he works with my daughter in law,
> He is not mechanical. I ask him questions now and then but he  
> doesn't have a clue.
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Thu Dec  6 19:01:52 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 20:01:52 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye story
References: <4757C060.15699.3D0B71@dmg.bossig.com> <475883C3.3020707@wi.net>
Message-ID: <005b01c83875$22e262d0$0401a8c0@midget>

> ... There is a second compilation available also entitled "Side Glances"
> 1983-1997.  Published jointly by Brooklands and Road & Track.

Heck, there are now FOUR volumes of "Side Glances". They did the right thing 
by not trying to select his best columns... instead, each volume of Side 
Glances contains EVERY one of his monthly columns in order for that time 
period. I got a little worried with the fourth volume when the description 
made a comment about the best of Peter Egan. Fortunately, it only meant that 
they were not only printing all the SG columns, they were also adding some 
additional columns.
For those having difficulty with the concept of keeping four wheels on the 
ground, there are also compilations of his writings for Motorcycle World (I 
think) published as "Leanings".
David Lieb 

From dmeadow at juno.com  Thu Dec  6 19:12:12 2007
From: dmeadow at juno.com (dmeadow at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 20:12:12 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Minator Wheel Fitment
Message-ID: <20071206.201212.1812.0.dmeadow@juno.com>

 We have a number of racers with this configuration.  They are typically
running 175 tires.  With the side loads in racing they do get some
rubbing, but that might not be true for street driving.  I'd recommend no
wider than a 165 (if you can find it).

David

On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 12:29:12 -0600 "Larry Daniels"
<ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> writes:
> Has anybody tried to fit 5.5 inch Minators on a square arch 1/4 
> elliptic Mark
> II Sprite or Mark I Midget?
> 
> Any problems and what size tires did you use if it fit without 
> rubbing?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> LAD

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Thu Dec  6 19:21:47 2007
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins)
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 21:21:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye story
In-Reply-To: <005b01c83875$22e262d0$0401a8c0@midget>
References: <4757C060.15699.3D0B71@dmg.bossig.com>
	<475883C3.3020707@wi.net> <005b01c83875$22e262d0$0401a8c0@midget>
Message-ID: <68vr7k$21erbu@email.mtu.edu>

At 09:01 PM 12/6/2007, you wrote:
> > ... There is a second compilation available also entitled "Side Glances"
> > 1983-1997.  Published jointly by Brooklands and Road & Track.

Peter Egan often drops names in his stories as in ; "I needed a part 
so I stopped went to Madison and picked up a shock from Peter C." Or, 
WST brought his tractor over to pull the Jeep out of the ditch."

So, how many of you Wisco or IL guys have been mentioned in Egan's 
articles? We read the names, but we didn't know you guys then.

Tim Collins 

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec  6 19:41:24 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 20:41:24 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Minator Wheel Fitment
References: <20071206.201212.1812.0.dmeadow@juno.com>
Message-ID: <016901c8387a$a911a2d0$6401a8c0@Larry>

Thank you, David.

Larry



----- Original Message ----- 
From: <dmeadow at juno.com>
To: <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Minator Wheel Fitment


We have a number of racers with this configuration.  They are typically
running 175 tires.  With the side loads in racing they do get some
rubbing, but that might not be true for street driving.  I'd recommend no
wider than a 165 (if you can find it).

David

On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 12:29:12 -0600 "Larry Daniels"
<ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> writes:
> Has anybody tried to fit 5.5 inch Minators on a square arch 1/4 
> elliptic Mark
> II Sprite or Mark I Midget?
> 
> Any problems and what size tires did you use if it fit without 
> rubbing?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> LAD

From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  6 19:48:34 2007
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 18:48:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye story
In-Reply-To: <68vr7k$21erbu@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <38881.86689.qm@web30514.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- "Timothy H. Collins" <thcollin at mtu.edu> wrote:
> So, how many of you Wisco or IL guys have been
> mentioned in Egan's 
> articles? We read the names, but we didn't know you
> guys then.

His article on being a driving instructor at
Midwestern Council school (I'm class of 2002 ;-))
talks about his student "Irv". That's the great Irv
the Perv of Team Thicko fame, if you're on Flounder's
Team Thicko list.

Ron


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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec  6 20:09:23 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 21:09:23 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye story
References: <38881.86689.qm@web30514.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <017601c8387e$91a47c90$6401a8c0@Larry>

If you graduated from Council, how come you aren't trading more paint?

LAD

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
To: "Timothy H. Collins" <thcollin at mtu.edu>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye story


--- "Timothy H. Collins" <thcollin at mtu.edu> wrote:
> So, how many of you Wisco or IL guys have been
> mentioned in Egan's
> articles? We read the names, but we didn't know you
> guys then.

His article on being a driving instructor at
Midwestern Council school (I'm class of 2002 ;-))
talks about his student "Irv". That's the great Irv
the Perv of Team Thicko fame, if you're on Flounder's
Team Thicko list.

Ron


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From wsthompson at thicko.com  Thu Dec  6 20:14:18 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 21:14:18 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye story
In-Reply-To: <017601c8387e$91a47c90$6401a8c0@Larry>
References: <38881.86689.qm@web30514.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<017601c8387e$91a47c90$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <004001c8387f$436a9680$ca3fc380$@com>

He just hasn't found the right Miata yet....

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Larry Daniels
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 9:09 PM
To: Ron Soave; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye story

If you graduated from Council, how come you aren't trading more paint?

LAD

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec  6 20:17:30 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 21:17:30 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye story
References: <38881.86689.qm@web30514.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<017601c8387e$91a47c90$6401a8c0@Larry>
	<004001c8387f$436a9680$ca3fc380$@com>
Message-ID: <018301c8387f$b3f8acc0$6401a8c0@Larry>

>From what I remember, Council drivers were never that particular with whom 
they they played bumper cars.  More like a NASCAR training course than a 
vintage driver training.

LAD



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson at thicko.com>
To: "'Larry Daniels'" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>; "'Ron Soave'" 
<soavero at yahoo.com>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 9:14 PM
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Bugeye story


He just hasn't found the right Miata yet....

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Larry Daniels
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 9:09 PM
To: Ron Soave; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye story

If you graduated from Council, how come you aren't trading more paint?

LAD

From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  6 20:46:34 2007
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 19:46:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye story
In-Reply-To: <018301c8387f$b3f8acc0$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <657402.5608.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> From what I remember, Council drivers were never
> that particular with whom 
> they they played bumper cars.  More like a NASCAR
> training course than a 
> vintage driver training.

The driver's school was fantastic - full 8 hour class,
test at end, very technical, lots of good video. Big
emphasis on safety, flagging, etiquette. My
instructor, Woody Carlson, was really great. The track
day was excellent. By far, it was the better of the 2
club-type schools I took. 

Of course, in my very first Council race qualifying
session I got hit by a club steward. He was sent home
and given 13/13 probation. Didn't help me much.

Ron









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From nory1 at adelphia.net  Thu Dec  6 20:53:43 2007
From: nory1 at adelphia.net (Nory)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 22:53:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] RC helicopter
In-Reply-To: <28930a6d314a656f8a5f78a.20071205224752.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com>
References: <652563598.20071205220300@pacifier.com>
	<8a336b9d0712052210n6953aa8ct16902fb1986ecb3@mail.gmail.com>
	<28930a6d314a656f8a5f78a.20071205224752.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com>
Message-ID: <E381FF50-40B1-4D2E-8899-C6660EB9F0D1@adelphia.net>

So, is it safe to assume the Air Hogs are NOT made in China?  Where  
are they made?


On Dec 6, 2007, at 1:47 AM, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote:

> This is probably one of the knock-offs that come in from China.  Be
> careful.  They DO NOT fly that well.  You should only buy Air Hogs or
> Silverlit brand.  Air Hogs are licensed by SIlverlit to make these
> helicopters.  Silverlit was the original, the rest are knock-offs.   
> I have
> bought several and found out the hard way.  Take it from someone  
> that has
> been into RC since 1965.  These little helicopters look simple, but  
> they
> are a very sophisticated design.  Cut corners, ie. $10 copter, and  
> it will
> not fly very well.  Try Ebay.  They are all over it.
> Mike MacLean
> 60 Sprite
> 56 BN2
> 1970 Ace Pulse Commander and Carl Goldberg Jr Falcon
> Sig Sr Kadet, Futaba radio and O.S. .70 FSII
> Carl Goldberg Sr Falcon, Futaba radio and O.S. .46 AX

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec  6 20:59:22 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 21:59:22 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye story
References: <657402.5608.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <018f01c83885$8d63e880$6401a8c0@Larry>

Well, at least, my memories of Council drivers seems to be spot on.

To be honest with you, I was not that impressed with my SCCA drivers school. 
Very rudimentary, I thought.  I got the feeling that they just wanted it to 
be over with.  But, then, I don't have any other school to compare it to.

Anybody attend one of the pro schools like Skip Barber or Bob Bondurant?  I 
talked with Bondurant once about his school when he was driving a friend's 
car at Elkhart, but I never got to his school.  The guy I bought my race car 
from was a pro test driver for Goodyear and recommended Bertil Roos's school 
to me, but I never attended there either.




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
To: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>; "Wm. Severin Thompson" 
<wsthompson at thicko.com>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye story


--- Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> From what I remember, Council drivers were never
> that particular with whom
> they they played bumper cars.  More like a NASCAR
> training course than a
> vintage driver training.

The driver's school was fantastic - full 8 hour class,
test at end, very technical, lots of good video. Big
emphasis on safety, flagging, etiquette. My
instructor, Woody Carlson, was really great. The track
day was excellent. By far, it was the better of the 2
club-type schools I took.

Of course, in my very first Council race qualifying
session I got hit by a club steward. He was sent home
and given 13/13 probation. Didn't help me much.

Ron









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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Dec  6 22:21:12 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 23:21:12 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye story
In-Reply-To: <657402.5608.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <018301c8387f$b3f8acc0$6401a8c0@Larry>
	<657402.5608.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712062121r866b847gfeba53ab6b824fb5@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/6/07, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:
<snip>
>
> My
> instructor, Woody Carlson, was really great.
>

Wow!  I didn't know he drove race cars!  I thought he just hung out at
Cheers with Norm, Cliff and the gang!   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

From derf247 at gmail.com  Thu Dec  6 22:30:53 2007
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 23:30:53 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] RC helicopter
In-Reply-To: <E381FF50-40B1-4D2E-8899-C6660EB9F0D1@adelphia.net>
References: <652563598.20071205220300@pacifier.com>
	<8a336b9d0712052210n6953aa8ct16902fb1986ecb3@mail.gmail.com>
	<28930a6d314a656f8a5f78a.20071205224752.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com>
	<E381FF50-40B1-4D2E-8899-C6660EB9F0D1@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910712062130u471a3bdatd6586bea4153ef02@mail.gmail.com>

I'm sure they are made in China but you can get products produced in
China in widely ranging quality levels.
The knock-offs cut corners here and there and that makes the
difference between an entertaining toy that flys well and a total
waste of money.
Cheers,
Derf

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Thu Dec  6 22:45:19 2007
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel)
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 23:45:19 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] RC helicopter
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910712062130u471a3bdatd6586bea4153ef02@mail.gmail.com>
References: <652563598.20071205220300@pacifier.com>
	<8a336b9d0712052210n6953aa8ct16902fb1986ecb3@mail.gmail.com>
	<28930a6d314a656f8a5f78a.20071205224752.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com>
	<E381FF50-40B1-4D2E-8899-C6660EB9F0D1@adelphia.net>
	<5f00d9910712062130u471a3bdatd6586bea4153ef02@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4758DDEF.4090900@wi.net>

derf wrote:
> I'm sure they are made in China but you can get products produced in
> China in widely ranging quality levels.
> The knock-offs cut corners here and there and that makes the
> difference between an entertaining toy that flys well and a total
> waste of money.
> Cheers,
> Derf
>   
Buy them soon before they're recalled!!!
Dave

From dwramsey at att.net  Thu Dec  6 23:27:09 2007
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 22:27:09 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] RC helicopter
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910712062130u471a3bdatd6586bea4153ef02@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20071207062804.32A62187A05@autox.team.net>

Your right usually the junk from China is of OK quality and meets the
standards of the company ordering it. It is after they "hijack" to tooling
and start making the knock-offs of the cheap Junk that you really get
problems.
		Crash
Ps I don't know how those choppers fly with all that lead paint.

I'm sure they are made in China but you can get products produced in
China in widely ranging quality levels.
The knock-offs cut corners here and there and that makes the
difference between an entertaining toy that flys well and a total
waste of money.
Cheers,
Derf

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Dec  7 05:52:38 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 06:52:38 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] CARS OF THE 50'S & 60'S
Message-ID: <01c201c838d0$0ce8b730$6401a8c0@Larry>

FW: CARS OF THE 50'S & 60'S, a fantastic productionFor all of my fellow
geezers on the lists:



    Cars of the 50's & 60's




    <http://thefiftiesandsixties.com/CarsWeDrove.htm>

From bpazur at excel.net  Fri Dec  7 06:27:15 2007
From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 07:27:15 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Driving Schools
Message-ID: <200712071327.lB7DRFsJ024406@green.excel.net>

LAD wrote:

Anybody attend one of the pro schools like Skip Barber or Bob Bondurant?


I attended the Skip Barber 3 day course at RA. I was generally pleased. The
last session (with the on-board camera which you get the video of) was ruined
by a person that couldn't drive and kept going off the track. We were
black-flagged twice and had to wait in the pit an interminable amount of time
while they got her back on. I was looking forward to opening it up that last
half hour (we were allowed to pass that last day), but we only got about 15
minutes of track time.

Bud Pazur

'60 Bugeye - Street Car - 1275cc - 'Mr. Wuite'
Race Spridget - 1275cc - 'SilverStreak'

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Dec  7 09:15:59 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 16:15:59 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] garage air lines
Message-ID: <BAY112-F24C5AAB657A06CB167BF30B8680@phx.gbl>

Not one to let a sleeping dog lie ...  ( Sleeping dogs should always be 
truthful, in my opinion. :) )

I'm not endorsing; nor do I have any experience with; nor do I have any 
financial interest ... I just bumped into the site and am passing it on.  ( 
Not to worry ... I didn't hurt myself. )

http://www.garage-pak.com/

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Fri Dec  7 08:42:18 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 07:42:18 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] CARS OF THE 50'S & 60'S
Message-ID: <380-220071257154218687@earthlink.net>

Larry Daniels wrote:  "CARS OF THE 50'S & 60'S, a fantastic productionFor all of my fellow geezers on the lists:  Cars of the 50's & 60's"

I hate to throw cold water on this wonderful piece of nostalgia, but these were certainly not the cars "we" drove in the 50's and 60's.  The reality was that unless our parents had the bucks to give their kids or co-sign loans, we simply could not afford to have most of these cars, especially in that condition.  Remember, most of those guys shown in the photos of the Carlsbad drag strip (which is still going strong) were much older (older than even Paul and me), and are long gone now.  

Those beautiful cars you see were either new (and therefore out of our price range), or the products of wistful guys who today put their very souls into the restoration of these beauties.   No, the abject reality is that we drove 39 or 41 Chevies or 46 Fords just before they moved on to the jalopy derbies where wanton destruction was the name of the game.

But to see them today?  Oh, the wonderful memories that come rushing back as if it were yesterday.

Buster Evans
Once upon a time, there was a tavern
Where we used to raise a glass or two.
Remember how we laughed away the hours,
Think of all the great things we would do?
Chorus:
Those were the days, my friend!
We thought they'd never end.
We'd sing and dance forever and a day.
We'd live the life we'd choose.
We'd fight and never lose.
For we were young and sure to have our way!
Di di di di


Then, the busy years went rushing by us.
We lost our starry notions on the way.
If, by chance, I'd see you in the tavern,
We'd smile at one another and we'd say,
Those were the days, my friend!
We thought they'd never end.
We'd sing and dance forever and a day.
We'd live the life we'd choose.
We'd fight and never lose.
Those were the days, oh yes those were the days!
Di di di di

Just tonight, I stood before the tavern.
Nothing seemed the way it used to be.
In the glass, I saw a strange reflection.
Was that lonely woman really me?

Those were the days, my friend
We thought they'd never end
We'd sing and dance forever and a day
We'd live the life we'd choose
We'd fight and never lose
Those were the days, oh yes those were the days!
Di di di di


Through the door, there came familiar laughter.
I saw your face and heard you call my name.
Oh my friend, we're older but no wiser,
For in our hearts, the dreams are still the same.
Those were the days, my friend!
We thought they'd never end.
We'd sing and dance forever and a day.
We'd live the life we'd choose.
We'd fight and never lose.
Those were the days, oh yes those were the days!
Di di di di  [big finish!]

From caws52803 at aol.com  Fri Dec  7 12:48:20 2007
From: caws52803 at aol.com (caws52803 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:48:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [Healeys] FW: This is interesting-Friday politics
In-Reply-To: <20071207193348.A9F7B1879CE@autox.team.net>
References: <20071207193348.A9F7B1879CE@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <8CA072140B96D7B-FD4-272C@webmail-da15.sysops.aol.com>

Dave,
I found this real interesting.? Disappointed that there was nothing to offend, so I guess this won't get alot of hate mail.
Rudy in NC


-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Porter <frogeye at porterscustom.com>
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Sent: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 2:33 pm
Subject: [Healeys] FW: This is interesting-Friday politics



Yeah, I know this is a quasi taboo subject, but times are changing and if we
want to continue enjoying our life style (cars), then perhaps this is a
mechanism to make better judgments as to who is making decisions in DC. IMHO
 Delete if you don't participate in our constitutional rights.
DP


The one instruction that I missed the first go-round is that you can skip a
question if it does not factor into your views about what is of national
importance.  See which of the candidates have (stated) views most similar to
yours.

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From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Fri Dec  7 13:10:06 2007
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 12:10:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] RC helicopter
In-Reply-To: <E381FF50-40B1-4D2E-8899-C6660EB9F0D1@adelphia.net>
References: <652563598.20071205220300@pacifier.com>
	<8a336b9d0712052210n6953aa8ct16902fb1986ecb3@mail.gmail.com>
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Well, you got me there.  Maybe Taiwan instead of mainland China.  In any
case the rest are knock-offs.  Not much copyright protection over there,
even among themselves.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2


Nory
> So, is it safe to assume the Air Hogs are NOT made in China?  Where
> are they made?
>
>
> On Dec 6, 2007, at 1:47 AM, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote:
>
>> This is probably one of the knock-offs that come in from China.  Be
>> careful.  They DO NOT fly that well.  You should only buy Air Hogs or
>> Silverlit brand.  Air Hogs are licensed by SIlverlit to make these
>> helicopters.  Silverlit was the original, the rest are knock-offs.
>> I have
>> bought several and found out the hard way.  Take it from someone
>> that has
>> been into RC since 1965.  These little helicopters look simple, but
>> they
>> are a very sophisticated design.  Cut corners, ie. $10 copter, and
>> it will
>> not fly very well.  Try Ebay.  They are all over it.
>> Mike MacLean
>> 60 Sprite
>> 56 BN2
>> 1970 Ace Pulse Commander and Carl Goldberg Jr Falcon
>> Sig Sr Kadet, Futaba radio and O.S. .70 FSII
>> Carl Goldberg Sr Falcon, Futaba radio and O.S. .46 AX

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Fri Dec  7 13:14:13 2007
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 12:14:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Lucas alternator.
Message-ID: <800217.81178.qm@web38914.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Does any one have a wiring diagram for Lucas Alternators or have a link to one on the Internet they could share or point me too?
   
  Your probably wondering "why" I have 3 or 4 alternators and 2 generators that were in a box that came with my car. They are very dirty and i can not read the poles that connect to the wiring system. I guess i could clean them up. But then i would still not know what wires to hook to what connector. The main reason is my local big auto parts suppliers in my area like NAPA who test these devices for free do not have a adapter plug to test my units. There was a place in Fountain Valley, California called Pacific. They would test & repair Alternators, generators, Dyna-starters, starters and other related devices. They were very reasonable and performed excellent work. I am not sure what happened to them. They may have moved or gone under. I know nothing about the devices. That is why I wanted to have them tested. Then i can either have them repaired or replaced with a new one. 
   
  Vigil
  SoCal      

       
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Dec  7 13:43:41 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 14:43:41 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Lucas alternator.
References: <800217.81178.qm@web38914.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <028101c83911$dae64350$6401a8c0@Larry>

Vigil,

You can download the Lucas Fault Diagnosis Service Manual here:

http://tinyurl.com/28dpmf

This is from a Volvo site, but I checked against my original Lucas manual 
download and it is identical.  It covers just about everything the Prince 
put his magic touch to.

Larry


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com>
To: "Sprite" <bugeye at yahoogroups.com>; "spridgets" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Midget/Sprite" <midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 2:14 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Lucas alternator.


Does any one have a wiring diagram for Lucas Alternators or have a link to 
one on the Internet they could share or point me too?

  Your probably wondering "why" I have 3 or 4 alternators and 2 generators 
that were in a box that came with my car. They are very dirty and i can not 
read the poles that connect to the wiring system. I guess i could clean them 
up. But then i would still not know what wires to hook to what connector. 
The main reason is my local big auto parts suppliers in my area like NAPA 
who test these devices for free do not have a adapter plug to test my units. 
There was a place in Fountain Valley, California called Pacific. They would 
test & repair Alternators, generators, Dyna-starters, starters and other 
related devices. They were very reasonable and performed excellent work. I 
am not sure what happened to them. They may have moved or gone under. I know 
nothing about the devices. That is why I wanted to have them tested. Then i 
can either have them repaired or replaced with a new one.

  Vigil
  SoCal


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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Dec  7 14:32:06 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 15:32:06 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] [Healeys] FW: This is interesting-Friday  politics
In-Reply-To: <8CA072140B96D7B-FD4-272C@webmail-da15.sysops.aol.com>
References: <20071207193348.A9F7B1879CE@autox.team.net>
	<8CA072140B96D7B-FD4-272C@webmail-da15.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712071332v2fb868c0r26da54fcce225072@mail.gmail.com>

I took the test.  Some of you Brits are going to have to explain to the rest
why mine came up "Ian Paisley"....   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On 12/7/07, caws52803 at aol.com <caws52803 at aol.com> wrote:
>
> Dave,
> I found this real interesting.? Disappointed that there was nothing to
> offend, so I guess this won't get alot of hate mail.
> Rudy in NC
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Porter <frogeye at porterscustom.com>
> To: healeys at autox.team.net
> Sent: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 2:33 pm
> Subject: [Healeys] FW: This is interesting-Friday politics
>
>
>
> Yeah, I know this is a quasi taboo subject, but times are changing and if
> we
> want to continue enjoying our life style (cars), then perhaps this is a
> mechanism to make better judgments as to who is making decisions in DC.
> IMHO
> Delete if you don't participate in our constitutional rights.
> DP
>
>
> The one instruction that I missed the first go-round is that you can skip
> a
> question if it does not factor into your views about what is of national
> importance.  See which of the candidates have (stated) views most similar
> to
> yours.
>
> http://www.wqad.com/Global/link.asp?L=259460

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Fri Dec  7 15:03:37 2007
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 16:03:37 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Lucas alternator.
In-Reply-To: <800217.81178.qm@web38914.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <800217.81178.qm@web38914.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090712071403u7f4d2acdl85622074916f9ac8@mail.gmail.com>

I have an alternator on the 65 Midget, so if anyone needs a photo of the
back of the thing, to see how the wires hook up, let me know off list.

Brad

On Dec 7, 2007 2:14 PM, <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Does any one have a wiring diagram for Lucas Alternators or have a link to
> one on the Internet they could share or point me too?
>
>  Your probably wondering "why" I have 3 or 4 alternators and 2 generators
> that were in a box that came with my car. They are very dirty and i can not
> read the poles that connect to the wiring system. I guess i could clean them
> up. But then i would still not know what wires to hook to what connector.
> The main reason is my local big auto parts suppliers in my area like NAPA
> who test these devices for free do not have a adapter plug to test my units.
> There was a place in Fountain Valley, California called Pacific. They would
> test & repair Alternators, generators, Dyna-starters, starters and other
> related devices. They were very reasonable and performed excellent work. I
> am not sure what happened to them. They may have moved or gone under. I know
> nothing about the devices. That is why I wanted to have them tested. Then i
> can either have them repaired or replaced with a new one.
>
>  Vigil
>  SoCal
>
>
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From pilotrob at msn.com  Fri Dec  7 16:51:43 2007
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 23:51:43 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... RE: CARS OF THE 50'S & 60'S
Message-ID: <BAY116-DAV166C8DCF555B82B14699ECD4680@phx.gbl>

"Those were the days my friend"

Sheer poetry, Buster. :)

CapBob

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Fri Dec  7 18:55:33 2007
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 17:55:33 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] RC helicopter
In-Reply-To: <ff0a2ae4a27d8a3b4ca.20071207121006.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com>
Message-ID: <C37F3995.1317A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> Maybe Taiwan instead of mainland China
That's a pretty big difference. Taiwan makes good stuff.

From stevenm at optonline.net  Fri Dec  7 20:22:14 2007
From: stevenm at optonline.net (Steven Michelsen)
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 22:22:14 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Lucas alternator.
References: <800217.81178.qm@web38914.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <01ac01c83949$87c4da00$6501a8c0@17053>

Here's a related bit of data that may help - a Lucas Generator Test booklet, on my site,,,

http://1978mgmidget.com/manuals_and_booklets.html

Hope this helps, 
Steve

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com 
  To: Sprite ; spridgets ; Midget/Sprite 
  Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 3:14 PM
  Subject: [midgetsprite] Lucas alternator.


  Does any one have a wiring diagram for Lucas Alternators or have a link to one on the Internet they could share or point me too?

  Your probably wondering "why" I have 3 or 4 alternators and 2 generators that were in a box that came with my car. They are very dirty and i can not read the poles that connect to the wiring system. I guess i could clean them up. But then i would still not know what wires to hook to what connector. The main reason is my local big auto parts suppliers in my area like NAPA who test these devices for free do not have a adapter plug to test my units. There was a place in Fountain Valley, California called Pacific. They would test & repair Alternators, generators, Dyna-starters, starters and other related devices. They were very reasonable and performed excellent work. I am not sure what happened to them. They may have moved or gone under. I know nothing about the devices. That is why I wanted to have them tested. Then i can either have them repaired or replaced with a new one. 

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From Mjsprite at aol.com  Fri Dec  7 21:46:16 2007
From: Mjsprite at aol.com (Mjsprite at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 23:46:16 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Driving Schools
Message-ID: <c04.260c58c1.348b7b98@aol.com>

I've been eyeing Frank Hawley's Dragster Adventure. Just doing a 700  
horsepower burnout seems worth the price of admission. How about getting a group  
together for a session at Pomona this spring?
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From cfchrist at earthlink.net  Fri Dec  7 22:27:52 2007
From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 00:27:52 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Driving Schools
Message-ID: <20297169.1197091672228.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

working as a PDX instructor for the last 2 years at pocono has been a hoot.     some people have an ability to drive and learn the line and braking and some just go really fast on the straights and pussy-foot around the corners and go like heck to the next corner.    instructing is an education in itself!

chuck

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>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Driving Schools
>
>I've been eyeing Frank Hawley's Dragster Adventure. Just doing a 700  
>horsepower burnout seems worth the price of admission. How about getting a group  
>together for a session at Pomona this spring?
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From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 22:01:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: FW: THE LAST ARGUMENT - no lbc
Message-ID: <829814.12113.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

There is a solution to every problem.
   
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From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 22:24:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: FW: THE LAST ARGUMENT - no lbc
In-Reply-To: <829814.12113.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <303876.96049.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I guess the group strips inbeded pictures too. It was a picture of a camper backed up to a cliff. So who ever was in the back was going to take the fall.
   
  Vigil

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  There is a solution to every problem.

LOL

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From herby at herbytoys.com  Sat Dec  8 00:26:22 2007
From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 23:26:22 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] 2 Bugeyes FS
Message-ID: <000f01c8396b$a3d04b40$6601a8c0@HERBYZ>

HYPERLINK
"http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/car/502345924.html"http://portland.craig
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2 fer 1. 

 

Herby
63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting)
62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver)
00 Dakota R/T (the new toy)
herby at herbytoys.com

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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sat Dec  8 08:59:02 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 10:59:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] no lbc - Czeck engine in Subaru
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP153DA30FD17C03EB984D34B8690@CEZ.ICE>

Whodathunk?

 

Does anyone here have a Subaru Outback H6 VDC and have had the pleasure of
having the check engine and VDC OFF lights come on on the instrument panel?

 

Robert D.

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Dec  8 09:16:19 2007
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 11:16:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] garage air lines
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F24C5AAB657A06CB167BF30B8680@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-F24C5AAB657A06CB167BF30B8680@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <205cef430712080816q3b61713i7727b75bd230ae63@mail.gmail.com>

Robert,
What a coincidence I just talked to my plumber this morning whom I have know
for 20 years about the white bread in the pipes for soldering which he still
does and he said they have these type of push on fittings for water now. I
sold plumbing for 10 years as a youngster and it's so cool to see this new
technology. He also said they now have a device which freezes a section of
pipe so you don't have to turn off the main to cut & refit fittings.
Expensive but very cool.
Lin

62 California Sprite "Pinky"
www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner



On Dec 7, 2007 11:15 AM, Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
wrote:

> Not one to let a sleeping dog lie ...  ( Sleeping dogs should always be
> truthful, in my opinion. :) )
>
> I'm not endorsing; nor do I have any experience with; nor do I have any
> financial interest ... I just bumped into the site and am passing it on.
>  (
> Not to worry ... I didn't hurt myself. )
>
> http://www.garage-pak.com/
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Dec  8 09:24:24 2007
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 08:24:24 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] CARS OF THE 50'S & 60'S
In-Reply-To: <380-220071257154218687@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <726273.18106.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- Robert Bruce Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:
> For we were young and sure to have our way

Or as the X song goes, 

"This is supposed to be the new world"

Ron


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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sat Dec  8 09:31:17 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 11:31:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] CARS OF THE 50'S & 60'S
In-Reply-To: <726273.18106.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <380-220071257154218687@earthlink.net>
	<726273.18106.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP13142E426A33211D54739EB8690@CEZ.ICE>

I'm still wondering why HE wrote this:

Just tonight, I stood before the tavern.
Nothing seemed the way it used to be.
In the glass, I saw a strange reflection.
Was that lonely woman really me?

:)

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Ron Soave
Sent: December 8, 2007 11:24 AM
To: Spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] CARS OF THE 50'S & 60'S

--- Robert Bruce Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:
> For we were young and sure to have our way

Or as the X song goes, 

"This is supposed to be the new world"

Ron


 
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Sat Dec  8 09:51:41 2007
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 08:51:41 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: FW: THE LAST ARGUMENT - no lbc
In-Reply-To: <829814.12113.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <829814.12113.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1129912293.20071208085141@pacifier.com>

Hello uniquelittlecars,

       for those who believe the IS a solution to every problem, do a
       googe search for

       unsolved math problems, or unsolved math theorems...

       now, just because a solution hasn't been found yet, doesn't
       mean there isn't one at all, (fermat's theorem comes to mind)..


       BUT.. ... ..




-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
   "66 Sprite
     I'm as confused as a baby in a topless bar.

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sat Dec  8 11:18:44 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 10:18:44 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] How gullible are people?
Message-ID: <380-220071268181844250@earthlink.net>

When you read tales of the '57 Chevy such as this, you begin to wonder just how gullible people can be!

http://tinyurl.com/yunyhd

Buster Evans

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sat Dec  8 12:27:43 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 13:27:43 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] How gullible are people?
References: <380-220071268181844250@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <010501c839d0$681fe280$0401a8c0@midget>

> When you read tales of the '57 Chevy such as this, you begin to wonder 
> just how gullible people can be!

With Chryler engines and chassis, no less! What an engineering feat; and all 
for the price of a used car... where are these people when you need them? 

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Dec  8 12:33:43 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 13:33:43 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] How gullible are people?
In-Reply-To: <380-220071268181844250@earthlink.net>
References: <380-220071268181844250@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712081133s1087eb9bmfa0ab538aeb32ef8@mail.gmail.com>

Even the math doesn't add up!!  (Pun intended!;-)   200,000 cars from 1957
to 1967 in a small facotry made by a small group.  Lessee... Assuming a 5
day work week with only 5 holidays a year, thats 51 weeks times 10 years or
510 weeks. Now an 8 hour work day brings the total hours of production to
4,080 hours.  200,000 cars produced in 4,080 hours comes to 49 cars an
hour.  I'd say those boys must really have been hustling in that little
factory outside of Jacksonville, IL!!  Wait!!!   Maybe they are superhuman
aliens!!  Yeah!  That would explain it!!

Cheers!!
Jim

On 12/8/07, Robert Bruce Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>   When you read tales of the '57 Chevy such as this, you begin to wonder
> just how gullible people can be!
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yunyhd
>
> Buster Evans

From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net  Sat Dec  8 12:38:00 2007
From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 11:38:00 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... How gullible are people?
References: <380-220071268181844250@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <021501c839d1$d8f5e1c0$f675fea9@p0k7l8>

Ahhhhh, 57 Chevs, some with Chrysler engines?

LOL!!

Pa


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bugeye at yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 10:18 AM
  Subject: Bugeye Group..... How gullible are people?


  When you read tales of the '57 Chevy such as this, you begin to wonder just
how gullible people can be!

  http://tinyurl.com/yunyhd

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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sat Dec  8 11:53:04 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 10:53:04 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: [midgetsprite] How gullible
 are people?
Message-ID: <3814-2200712681853462@earthlink.net>

Jim Johnson wrote:  "Even the math doesn't add up!!"

No kidding.  But people DO believe it!!!!  Kinda scary when you think about elections coming up!

Buster
 
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From kristi74midget at comcast.net  Sat Dec  8 13:18:43 2007
From: kristi74midget at comcast.net (Kristi & Lambert)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 15:18:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] How gullible are people?
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0712081133s1087eb9bmfa0ab538aeb32ef8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <380-220071268181844250@earthlink.net>
	<43840a7e0712081133s1087eb9bmfa0ab538aeb32ef8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5EC07F13-ACD6-4308-8DDB-C84DDBACDE76@comcast.net>

  wouldn't that be 20400 hours of work since it is a 40 hour work week
On Dec 8, 2007, at 2:33 PM, Jim Johnson wrote:

> Even the math doesn't add up!!  (Pun intended!;-)   200,000 cars  
> from 1957
> to 1967 in a small facotry made by a small group.  Lessee...  
> Assuming a 5
> day work week with only 5 holidays a year, thats 51 weeks times 10  
> years or
> 510 weeks. Now an 8 hour work day brings the total hours of  
> production to
> 4,080 hours.  200,000 cars produced in 4,080 hours comes to 49 cars an
> hour.  I'd say those boys must really have been hustling in that  
> little
> factory outside of Jacksonville, IL!!  Wait!!!   Maybe they are  
> superhuman
> aliens!!  Yeah!  That would explain it!!
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On 12/8/07, Robert Bruce Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>   When you read tales of the '57 Chevy such as this, you begin to  
>> wonder
>> just how gullible people can be!
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/yunyhd
>>
>> Buster Evans
> _______________________________________________
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Dec  8 13:26:34 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 15:26:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] How gullible are people?
In-Reply-To: <380-220071268181844250@earthlink.net>
References: <380-220071268181844250@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <475AFDFA.7020005@comcast.net>

Robert Bruce Evans wrote:
> When you read tales of the '57 Chevy such as this, you begin to wonder just how gullible people can be!
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/yunyhd

But today you can buy a brand new made in USA 57 Chevy.
All the parts come from china but they look nice for about a month.
And they weigh in at about 1/2 what a real 57 weighs.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sat Dec  8 13:42:20 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 15:42:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] How gullible are people?
In-Reply-To: <475AFDFA.7020005@comcast.net>
References: <380-220071268181844250@earthlink.net>
	<475AFDFA.7020005@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP10636C1136BFD2F7E35969B8690@CEZ.ICE>

For $180,000?

http://www.1957chevybody.com/body_options.html


-----Original Message-----


Robert Bruce Evans wrote:
> When you read tales of the '57 Chevy such as this, you begin to wonder
just how gullible people can be!
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/yunyhd

But today you can buy a brand new made in USA 57 Chevy.
All the parts come from china but they look nice for about a month.
And they weigh in at about 1/2 what a real 57 weighs.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sat Dec  8 13:56:30 2007
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 12:56:30 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] How gullible are people?
In-Reply-To: <380-220071268181844250@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <C38044FE.131BE%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> how gullible people can be!
Making knock-offs of the worst selling Chevy in history....that's quite a
business plan. If they were building them today, it might make sense.
BZ

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sat Dec  8 15:12:01 2007
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 14:12:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] RC helicopter
In-Reply-To: <C37F3995.1317A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <ff0a2ae4a27d8a3b4ca.20071207121006.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com>
	<C37F3995.1317A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <330a894a7f8a24ca.20071208141201.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com>

My point exactly.
Mike


Billy Zoom
>> Maybe Taiwan instead of mainland China
> That's a pretty big difference. Taiwan makes good stuff.

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Dec  8 15:33:02 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 17:33:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] RC helicopter
In-Reply-To: <330a894a7f8a24ca.20071208141201.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com>
References: <ff0a2ae4a27d8a3b4ca.20071207121006.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com>
	<C37F3995.1317A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<330a894a7f8a24ca.20071208141201.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com>
Message-ID: <475B1B9E.5000304@comcast.net>

rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote:
> My point exactly.
> Mike
> 
> 
> Billy Zoom
>>> Maybe Taiwan instead of mainland China
>> That's a pretty big difference. Taiwan makes good stuff.

And when will we be saying all the good stuff comes from china?
Remember when made in japan meant crap?
Now Taiwan makes good stuff.
Our standards have been lowered to accept crap, yes better crap but it's 
still crap.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sat Dec  8 15:51:57 2007
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 14:51:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] RC helicopter
In-Reply-To: <475B1B9E.5000304@comcast.net>
References: <ff0a2ae4a27d8a3b4ca.20071207121006.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com>
	<C37F3995.1317A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<330a894a7f8a24ca.20071208141201.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com>
	<475B1B9E.5000304@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <3042ca81e0da78a6ea22c6ba.20071208145157.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com>

If your gonna buy crap because nothing else is available, get the best
crap you can for your money. ;^)
Mike


Frank Clarici
> rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote:
>> My point exactly.
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> Billy Zoom
>>>> Maybe Taiwan instead of mainland China
>>> That's a pretty big difference. Taiwan makes good stuff.
>
> And when will we be saying all the good stuff comes from china?
> Remember when made in japan meant crap?
> Now Taiwan makes good stuff.
> Our standards have been lowered to accept crap, yes better crap but it's
> still crap.
>
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat Dec  8 16:30:37 2007
From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 17:30:37 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] garage air lines
References: <BAY112-F24C5AAB657A06CB167BF30B8680@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <041601c839f2$56993850$6501a8c0@actualshop>

<<I just bumped into the site and am passing it on.  (
Not to worry ... I didn't hurt myself. )>>

Interesting, RD!!  See the Big Healey??  Site has LBC "content"<VBG>!!

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Sat Dec  8 16:36:57 2007
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 15:36:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Team.Net Archives
In-Reply-To: <041601c839f2$56993850$6501a8c0@actualshop>
Message-ID: <765842.91251.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I went to Team.Net Archives today. I do not see any thing for Morris. Does this mean the group in no longer around?
   
  Vigil 

       
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From dwramsey at att.net  Sat Dec  8 16:49:34 2007
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 15:49:34 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: [midgetsprite] How gullible
 are people?
In-Reply-To: <3814-2200712681853462@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20071208235040.BCAC0187B0D@autox.team.net>

I see more 57 chevy convertibles every year at Hot August Nights here in
Reno than where ever made and there are more every year. Now I know why.
		Crash


Jim Johnson wrote:  "Even the math doesn't add up!!"

No kidding.  But people DO believe it!!!!  Kinda scary when you think about
elections coming up!

Buster

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sat Dec  8 16:57:33 2007
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 15:57:33 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] RC helicopter
In-Reply-To: <475B1B9E.5000304@comcast.net>
References: <ff0a2ae4a27d8a3b4ca.20071207121006.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com>
	<C37F3995.1317A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<330a894a7f8a24ca.20071208141201.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com>
	<475B1B9E.5000304@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <237136920.20071208155733@pacifier.com>

Hello ,

      those of us old enough to remember New Sprites, also remember
      "made in japan" was short for CHEAP JUNK. turns out, THEY knew
      it was cheap junk too, but that's what they thought we wanted to
      buy. they could and did make quality stuff for their market, but
      were exporting to get market share and hit price points, much as
      the chinese are now..

      the chinese KNOW they are selling junk too. BUT some things from
      china are showing that they KNOW the difference and can and DO
      make some very high quality goods. .. .. it just a matter of
      time and $$$$$$ or Luan...

      remember when you're one in a million in china there are more
      than a thousand out there just like you!



-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
   "66 Sprite
     Oh sure,  but what's the speed of dark?

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sat Dec  8 17:03:47 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 19:03:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] garage air lines
In-Reply-To: <041601c839f2$56993850$6501a8c0@actualshop>
References: <BAY112-F24C5AAB657A06CB167BF30B8680@phx.gbl>
	<041601c839f2$56993850$6501a8c0@actualshop>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP15C4E13C9F78E482C2DCC7B86A0@CEZ.ICE>

No, I must have missed that.

I did see a big H in the movie 'Transformers' last night though.  Driver's
door was ajar while being driven. :)

-----Original Message-----
From: shop at justbrits.com

<<I just bumped into the site and am passing it on.  (
Not to worry ... I didn't hurt myself. )>>

Interesting, RD!!  See the Big Healey??  Site has LBC "content"<VBG>!!

From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net  Sat Dec  8 17:50:46 2007
From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 16:50:46 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Team.Net Archives
References: <765842.91251.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002801c839fd$8aa2e6e0$f675fea9@p0k7l8>

That Morris group was in serious need of resuscitation.  Your Yahoo one may
well have pounded the last nail in the coffin lid!!

Pa

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Morris" <morris at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 3:36 PM
Subject: Team.Net Archives


> I went to Team.Net Archives today. I do not see any thing for Morris. Does
this mean the group in no longer around?
>
>   Vigil
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile.  Try it
now.
>
> ///  unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo at autox.team.net  or
try
> ///  http://www.team.net/cgi-bin/majorcool
> ///  http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo
> ///  Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/morris
> ///  Send list postings to morris at autox.team.net
> ///  Edit your replies!  If they include this trailer, they will NOT be
sent.

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Sat Dec  8 22:56:55 2007
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 21:56:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Team.Net Archives
In-Reply-To: <002801c839fd$8aa2e6e0$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
Message-ID: <84792.66852.qm@web38913.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Paul,
   
  As you know that was never the intention of the Morris Motors group. With all groups for Morris vehicles being dead. I found the opportunity to do some thing about it when the Morris Motors group was passed on to me. Being a member of a lot of groups i figured out what i liked and did not in the groups. When people asked about other Morris groups i always pass them on. The more information on our vehicles the better for all of us. I could not have made the group what it is today with out people like you helping with information. So i guess i was just the promoter. The group functions because of its members and there collaboration. With out people participating in a group they stale and die. The other important factor is to draw new owners. with out them asking questions the group is less interesting. And it also makes the not so new owners feel like they are part of the group because they can answer some of the questions. This keeps the group active. 
   
  By the way - Larry put a bug in my ear today and i started a new group for Austin.
   
  http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/AnyThingAustin/
   
   
  Vigil

Paul Asgeirsson <PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net> wrote:
  That Morris group was in serious need of resuscitation. Your Yahoo one may
well have pounded the last nail in the coffin lid!!

Pa

----- Original Message ----- 
From: 
To: ; "Morris" 
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 3:36 PM
Subject: Team.Net Archives


> I went to Team.Net Archives today. I do not see any thing for Morris. Does
this mean the group in no longer around?
>
> Vigil
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it
now.
>
> /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo at autox.team.net or
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> /// http://www.team.net/cgi-bin/majorcool
> /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo
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From kvacek at ameritech.net  Sun Dec  9 15:39:34 2007
From: kvacek at ameritech.net (Karl Vacek)
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 16:39:34 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] 78 dual brake master cylinder
Message-ID: <006301c83ab4$5fa4cfa0$6e01a8c0@KARL>

Hi - I'm back after many months off the list.

I'm finally working on my wife's 78 Midget - the 14,000 mile Wheel of Fortune
car.  I need to redo all hydraulics, and have done the clutch cylinders, but
when I disassembled the dual-line brake master cylinder I scratched the outer
portion of the piston a bit removing the snap ring.  That ring was actually
too big, making it not really fit in the annular space between the piston and
cylinder.  Not the kind of engineering that you'd see on an earlier car...

Anyway, it really looks to me like the outer seal isn't actually necessary -
not the outer boot, but the first seal inside of that.  There are two more
seals after that, that do the actual hydraulic pumping, and it looks to me
like the first seal (which mates to the piston in the area I scratched) is
just a second cleanliness seal.

Peter C told me I can't get a new piston.  I could of course just put it
together and try it, but I don't want to bother and waste the rebuild kit if
it's definitely an ill-fated attempt.

Anyone BTDT ??

Thanks!
Karl Vacek

From grday at btinternet.com  Sun Dec  9 16:08:04 2007
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 23:08:04 -0000
Subject: [Spridgets] 78 dual brake master cylinder
References: <006301c83ab4$5fa4cfa0$6e01a8c0@KARL>
Message-ID: <002f01c83ab8$5a9de5b0$0dab9656@tairswork>

You are playing with your brakes, you know, the things that save you butt 
when come up to a stop light or are barrelling too fast into a corner.  But 
hey, and it may be a selfish way of looking at it,  the good thing is it is 
your butt and not mine.  Or perhaps, your wife's....

Seriously Karl, I'd want the brakes about right.  I'll stand a little fuel 
starvation at high revs, tickover being a little lumpy, the heater burning 
my feet but brakes, well I like those to work properly.

All the best,

Guy R Day


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Karl Vacek" <kvacek at ameritech.net>
To: "Spridgets" <Spridgets at Autox.Team.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 10:39 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] 78 dual brake master cylinder


> Hi - I'm back after many months off the list.
>
> I'm finally working on my wife's 78 Midget - the 14,000 mile Wheel of 
> Fortune
> car.  I need to redo all hydraulics, and have done the clutch cylinders, 
> but
> when I disassembled the dual-line brake master cylinder I scratched the 
> outer
> portion of the piston a bit removing the snap ring.  That ring was 
> actually
> too big, making it not really fit in the annular space between the piston 
> and
> cylinder.  Not the kind of engineering that you'd see on an earlier car...
>
> Anyway, it really looks to me like the outer seal isn't actually 
> necessary -
> not the outer boot, but the first seal inside of that.  There are two more
> seals after that, that do the actual hydraulic pumping, and it looks to me
> like the first seal (which mates to the piston in the area I scratched) is
> just a second cleanliness seal.
>
> Peter C told me I can't get a new piston.  I could of course just put it
> together and try it, but I don't want to bother and waste the rebuild kit 
> if
> it's definitely an ill-fated attempt.
>
> Anyone BTDT ??
>
> Thanks!
> Karl Vacek
> _______________________________________________
> grday at btinternet.com
>
> Edit your replies
>
> http://www.team.net/archive
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets 

From nases at verizon.net  Sun Dec  9 19:58:13 2007
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 21:58:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] New bugeye restoration pics
Message-ID: <001401c83ad8$828c7850$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com>

I got the engine installed this weekend and I have some updated pictures of
my Bugeye restoration posted.
 
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/engine_install.htm
 

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sun Dec  9 21:24:59 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 20:24:59 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] The Big Interview: Sir Jackie Stewart
Message-ID: <380-220071211042459765@earthlink.net>

>From The Times of London comes a brilliant interview of one of the all-time favorites on any race track.   

http://tinyurl.com/3c8j2y
or
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/formula_1/article2983573.ece

Buster Evans

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Dec  9 22:36:43 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 23:36:43 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Depression...
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712092136i5e65b1b8r112fb40367fac7c2@mail.gmail.com>

I was depressed last night so I called Lifeline.
I got a call center in Pakistan.
I told them I was suicidal.
They got all excited and asked if I could drive a truck.
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Dec 10 06:33:45 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:33:45 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] no lbc - Nissan GT-R
Message-ID: <BAY112-F2891FC18B68F759B73E901B86B0@phx.gbl>

I didn't read the whole article, but some of you may be inetersted ...

http://en.autos.sympatico.msn.ca/guides_and_advice/article.aspx?cp-documentid=5841597

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Dec 10 07:23:37 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:23:37 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] New bugeye restoration pics
In-Reply-To: <0A82B1F60C39C541A336687D081AC99C010819EC@onncrxms7.agr.gc.ca>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F32939A7508E2863E41828BB86B0@phx.gbl>

Phil!

It always pleases me to see people progressing with their projects!!!

I like the 'yellow'.  :)  What make are the tires?  And, is your heater 
valve 180 degrees off?

Robert D.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Phil Nase
>
>I got the engine installed this weekend and I have some updated pictures
>of
>my Bugeye restoration posted.
>
>http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/engine_install.htm
>
>
>Phil Nase
>Quakertown, PA
>http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa

From twobees at sprynet.com  Mon Dec 10 08:23:12 2007
From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:23:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Dumb Question
Message-ID: <001a01c83b40$941c7da0$77451645@normoffice>

I've rebuilt a number of engines over the years, including a 948.  BUT...
I'm about to replace the timing gears & chain on one of mine & I see the cam
gear comes with rubber "tensioner rings."  I don't see any way to mount
these rings on the new cam gear & the previous gear certainly doesn't have
any.  Anyone able to tell me what the story is on these?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Norm Sippel
'59 Turner

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Mon Dec 10 09:08:11 2007
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 08:08:11 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Dumb Question
References: <001a01c83b40$941c7da0$77451645@normoffice>
Message-ID: <000801c83b46$e42ddea0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

Norm,

I had one of those on my Austin A35 948 motor.  I swapped out all the timing 
gear for a double row 1275 set including the harmonic balancer.  I never did 
figure out what puppose the rubber served.  I still have all the parts in 
very good shape if you want to replace with original type parts.  You're 
welcome to them.

Glen Byrns

> I've rebuilt a number of engines over the years, including a 948.  BUT...
> I'm about to replace the timing gears & chain on one of mine & I see the 
> cam
> gear comes with rubber "tensioner rings."  I don't see any way to mount
> these rings on the new cam gear & the previous gear certainly doesn't have
> any.  Anyone able to tell me what the story is on these?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Norm Sippel
> '59 Turner
> _______________________________________________

From peter at nosimport.com  Mon Dec 10 09:47:17 2007
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:47:17 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Dumb Question
In-Reply-To: <001a01c83b40$941c7da0$77451645@normoffice>
References: <001a01c83b40$941c7da0$77451645@normoffice>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071210104012.03520e20@nosimport.com>

The rubber rings were/are a tensioner, just kind of snugging things 
up a bit. The replacement sprockets do not have provision for them. 
One could argue their efficacy, and many folks removed them from the 
sprockets that could take them.

Peter C.


At 09:23 AM 12/10/2007, Norm wrote:

>I've rebuilt a number of engines over the years, including a 948.  BUT...
>I'm about to replace the timing gears & chain on one of mine & I see the cam
>gear comes with rubber "tensioner rings."  I don't see any way to mount
>these rings on the new cam gear & the previous gear certainly doesn't have
>any.  Anyone able to tell me what the story is on these?
>
>Thanks in advance for your help.
>
>Norm Sippel
>'59 Turner

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Mon Dec 10 09:51:00 2007
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:51:00 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Dumb Question
References: <001a01c83b40$941c7da0$77451645@normoffice>
Message-ID: <005401c83b4c$d7aa3ab0$c7a1bf46@personal>

The story is forget em on the Bugeye 948. Not a problem. I have had three 
now including a newish one and I have never seen those rings installed as 
there is no place to do so.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Norm" <twobees at sprynet.com>
To: "Spridgets Digest" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 9:23 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Dumb Question


> I've rebuilt a number of engines over the years, including a 948.  BUT...
> I'm about to replace the timing gears & chain on one of mine & I see the 
> cam
> gear comes with rubber "tensioner rings."  I don't see any way to mount
> these rings on the new cam gear & the previous gear certainly doesn't have
> any.  Anyone able to tell me what the story is on these?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Norm Sippel
> '59 Turner
> _______________________________________________
> jlaird237 at cox.net
>
> Edit your replies
>
> http://www.team.net/archive
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets
>
>
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From JNBrashear at garverengineers.com  Mon Dec 10 09:56:39 2007
From: JNBrashear at garverengineers.com (Brashear, Jack, N)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:56:39 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Dumb Question
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20071210104012.03520e20@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE6037D684F@glitas07.garverinc.local>

I never could figure out how those were supposed to function.  Guess the
rubber "grew" as RPMs increased thereby causing some mystical tensioning
of the chain??  The 1275 dbl. row chain/sprockets/harmonic balancer is
better for your 948 (IMHO) if your racer organization so allows.
Jack

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+jnbrashear=garverengineers.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+jnbrashear=garverengineers.com at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Peter C
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 10:47 AM
To: Norm; Spridgets Digest
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Dumb Question

The rubber rings were/are a tensioner, just kind of snugging things
up a bit. The replacement sprockets do not have provision for them.
One could argue their efficacy, and many folks removed them from the
sprockets that could take them.

Peter C.


At 09:23 AM 12/10/2007, Norm wrote:

>I've rebuilt a number of engines over the years, including a 948.
BUT...
>I'm about to replace the timing gears & chain on one of mine & I see
the cam
>gear comes with rubber "tensioner rings."  I don't see any way to mount
>these rings on the new cam gear & the previous gear certainly doesn't
have
>any.  Anyone able to tell me what the story is on these?
>
>Thanks in advance for your help.
>
>Norm Sippel
>'59 Turner

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Mon Dec 10 10:13:02 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:13:02 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] New Austin Yahoo group - AnyThingAustin
Message-ID: <060401c83b4f$ecee8950$6401a8c0@Larry>

I just wanted y'all to know that Vigil has set up a new Yahoo group for Austin
automobiles.  I was talking to him about the lack of a good group or list for
Austins and he volunteered to start one.  Vigil and I will be running it until
he has me up to speed on these things.

Knowing how British car ownership transcends brands, I guess there are a few
of you who may own and/or are fans of Austins.  The group started yesterday
and already there are 13 members.  Frank Clarici has even supplied the first
photo -- that of his '59 A40 Farina.  Thanks, Frank.

So... all are welcome.  The group is called AnyThingAustin.  This is not meant
to take anything away from any present groups -- only to have something for
Austins.  Certainly Austin Healeys and any other Brit car owners/fans are
welcome, too.

Cheers,

Larry Daniels

79 MGB LE
60 Bugeye
67 Austin A60 Pickup (Ute)

"You only need two tools: WD-40 and Duct Tape. If it
doesn't move and should, use the WD-40. If it
shouldn't move and does, use the duct tape."

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Mon Dec 10 10:24:57 2007
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:24:57 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Dumb Question
References: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE6037D684F@glitas07.garverinc.local>
Message-ID: <000801c83b51$96628d50$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

I think the chain edges would actually ride on the rubber and be pushed 
slightly above the trough at the bottom of each tooth of the sprocket 
providing some tensioning and noise dampening.  Of course, after 30 years or 
so, the rubber has turned to ceramic and has NO effect whatsoever except to 
puzzle modern day owners.

Glen



>I never could figure out how those were supposed to function.  Guess the
> rubber "grew" as RPMs increased thereby causing some mystical tensioning
> of the chain??  The 1275 dbl. row chain/sprockets/harmonic balancer is
> better for your 948 (IMHO) if your racer organization so allows.
> Jack

From bilbostuufff at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 10 12:27:55 2007
From: bilbostuufff at yahoo.com (John Colclasure)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:27:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget Back Seat?
Message-ID: <102728.91268.qm@web56011.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Says its a midgets back seat...I had no idea midgets ever had back seats, I cannot figure out how one would sit in one.
   
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Dec 10 12:51:15 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:51:15 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Go elf yourself
Message-ID: <BAY112-F297F1E6B4D4E947B448C77B86B0@phx.gbl>

http://www.elfyourself.com/

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Mon Dec 10 14:12:19 2007
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:12:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] AC/DC and LBC's
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F27D8294B3B3A19741C768AB86D0@phx.gbl>
References: <47550A55.9462.181A69@dmg.bossig.com>
	<BAY112-F27D8294B3B3A19741C768AB86D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU111-W43ED2C9774A4993B80671FC26B0@phx.gbl>

AC/DC front man Brian Johnson, who took over for Bon Scott after he died,
vintage races a Sports Racer and his wife, Brenda,
 Vintage Races a Bugeye! I had the pleasure to meet them at Sebring in 02.
GREAT people!
There's a pic on Ed's web site of their cars.

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer under resto

> From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca
>
> The local classic rock station here plays a bit where a guy from AC/DC is
> talking about ( I think! ) Bon Scott and his spouse says something to the
> effect of "it's either the band or me" and he replied, "they're a great
> band".  And, the rest is history.  ( he joined the band. )
>
>

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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Dec 10 14:28:36 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:28:36 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Go elf yourself
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F297F1E6B4D4E947B448C77B86B0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-F297F1E6B4D4E947B448C77B86B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712101328j4c1ee4detf1a2677f8327e300@mail.gmail.com>

Oh Yeah??  Well, Elf you too, Robert!!   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Dec 10, 2007 1:51 PM, Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
wrote:

> http://www.elfyourself.com/
> __________________________

From type79 at ix.netcom.com  Mon Dec 10 14:41:46 2007
From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:41:46 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Spridgets] AC/DC and LBC's
Message-ID: <1785500.1197322906780.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Does his engine sound better than his voice?

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/

-----Original Message-----
>From: brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com>
>Sent: Dec 10, 2007 4:12 PM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] AC/DC and LBC's
>
>AC/DC front man Brian Johnson, who took over for Bon Scott after he died,
>vintage races a Sports Racer and his wife, Brenda,
> Vintage Races a Bugeye! I had the pleasure to meet them at Sebring in 02.
>GREAT people!
>There's a pic on Ed's web site of their cars.
>
>Brian S.
>Bugeyeracer under resto
>
>> From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca
>>
>> The local classic rock station here plays a bit where a guy from AC/DC is
>> talking about ( I think! ) Bon Scott and his spouse says something to the
>> effect of "it's either the band or me" and he replied, "they're a great
>> band".  And, the rest is history.  ( he joined the band. )

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Dec 10 14:50:08 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:50:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget Back Seat?
In-Reply-To: <102728.91268.qm@web56011.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <102728.91268.qm@web56011.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <475DB490.4040604@comcast.net>

John Colclasure wrote:
> Says its a midgets back seat...I had no idea midgets ever had back seats, I cannot figure out how one would sit in one.
>    
>   http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=130181635592&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=003


Well 61-64 Midgets did have an optional cushion that served as a back seat.
They were not around in 71. And this looks like an MGB-GT back seat.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From theshoe5 at comcast.net  Mon Dec 10 15:09:01 2007
From: theshoe5 at comcast.net (Alan)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:09:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Wheels & Axle
Message-ID: <005501c83b79$46396fb0$6401a8c0@alanu23tkucaxb>

Anyone out there need a set of Rostyle wheels? A friend cleaned out his garage
and was going to toss them, but I figured somebody on this list may be in
need. Four, with trim rings and center caps, wheels painted black. I also have
a rear axle housing from a '78 Midget with steel wheels. No diff. or axles.
Free for the taking, will not ship. Items located in East Brunswick NJ. First
come first serve.
Alan '59 Sprite

From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net  Mon Dec 10 15:12:16 2007
From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:12:16 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Dumb Question
References: <001a01c83b40$941c7da0$77451645@normoffice>
	<000801c83b46$e42ddea0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <01fe01c83b79$baeaf0e0$f675fea9@p0k7l8>

Hi Norm,

When mounted in the original single chain timing gear, it was supposed to
put tension on the chain to make it run tighter.  It did that likely for 2
months and then that rubber turned into anthracite!  Then the timing chain
developed the death rattle for the rest of it's life.  Sounds a lot like
early Willys powered Jeep engines!!  On some of the side mount "A": series
engine, they did the spring loaded tensioner that ran against the back side
of the chain.

Many folks have no idea where on the chain pulley to mount these rubbers.
The old ones are so brittle they're a look alike to the steel!  Jam a small
bladed screwdriver into it and it splits and you just pull it out!!

Pa


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
To: "Norm" <twobees at sprynet.com>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Dumb Question


> Norm,
>
> I had one of those on my Austin A35 948 motor.  I swapped out all the
timing
> gear for a double row 1275 set including the harmonic balancer.  I never
did
> figure out what puppose the rubber served.  I still have all the parts in
> very good shape if you want to replace with original type parts.  You're
> welcome to them.
>
> Glen Byrns
>
> > I've rebuilt a number of engines over the years, including a 948.
BUT...
> > I'm about to replace the timing gears & chain on one of mine & I see the
> > cam
> > gear comes with rubber "tensioner rings."  I don't see any way to mount
> > these rings on the new cam gear & the previous gear certainly doesn't
have
> > any.  Anyone able to tell me what the story is on these?
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your help.
> >
> > Norm Sippel
> > '59 Turner

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Mon Dec 10 16:38:56 2007
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:38:56 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget Back Seat?
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV727BC9C355A68FC6E9915C86B0@phx.gbl>

"I couldn't figure out how one could sit in one"

Either could the seller, John.

Ad has been changed to MGB-GT.  :)

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Mon Dec 10 16:45:52 2007
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:45:52 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Depression...
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV84A6D5A12A04A8AB3A6F0C86B0@phx.gbl>

"....asked if I could drive a truck"

How much they payin', Jim? :)

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Mon Dec 10 16:49:10 2007
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:49:10 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] 78 dual brake master cylinder
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV8EC05D4AB809AFEF654BBC86B0@phx.gbl>

"Ill fated"

Maybe....stopping is usually not optional? :)

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From racerbob70 at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 10 16:52:33 2007
From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:52:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Depression...
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV84A6D5A12A04A8AB3A6F0C86B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <304214.71742.qm@web51612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

 Seven virgins?????



--- "Robert E. Shlafer" <pilotrob at webtv.net> wrote:

> "....asked if I could drive a truck"
> 
> How much they payin', Jim? :)
> 
> Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)
> _______________________________________________
> racerbob70 at yahoo.com
> 
>


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From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 10 17:20:28 2007
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:20:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] AC/DC and LBC's
In-Reply-To: <BLU111-W43ED2C9774A4993B80671FC26B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <104082.88920.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> AC/DC front man Brian Johnson, who took over for Bon
> Scott after he died,
> vintage races a Sports Racer and his wife, Brenda,
>  Vintage Races a Bugeye

Talk about serious synchronicity - 

My Sprite racing buddy Jeff Porasik saw him last Sat
night at a bar in  Sarasota. Brian played a local
Irish pub with former members of the late John
Entwistle's band (Jay - Andy Fairweather Low? I'd have
to look it up). I got a cell call with lots of
digitally filtered noise that was apparently "Back in
Black". 

Ron


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From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon Dec 10 18:09:39 2007
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:09:39 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] AC/DC and LBC's
In-Reply-To: <104082.88920.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <BLU111-W43ED2C9774A4993B80671FC26B0@phx.gbl>
	<104082.88920.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910712101709h5c0e43c7kcaf262cf98f034fa@mail.gmail.com>

I saw AC/DC back in the 80s.  They should have called it the Angus
Young Show.   Ahh, wasted youth.

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Dec 10 18:21:57 2007
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:21:57 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Go elf yourself
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F297F1E6B4D4E947B448C77B86B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C3832635.13253%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Shouldn't you be posting this on the Riley list?

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Dec 10 18:25:11 2007
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:25:11 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget Back Seat?
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV727BC9C355A68FC6E9915C86B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C38326F7.13254%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> "I couldn't figure out how one could sit in one"
I'd actually like to get one for Leroy (our dog).

From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon Dec 10 18:29:31 2007
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:29:31 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Go elf yourself
In-Reply-To: <C3832635.13253%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <BAY112-F297F1E6B4D4E947B448C77B86B0@phx.gbl>
	<C3832635.13253%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910712101729l2e3f8378rc41046fce86270f2@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah, Riley, the no spin zone, right?

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Dec 10 22:34:58 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:34:58 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Go elf yourself
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910712101729l2e3f8378rc41046fce86270f2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY112-F297F1E6B4D4E947B448C77B86B0@phx.gbl>
	<C3832635.13253%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<5f00d9910712101729l2e3f8378rc41046fce86270f2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712102134m1bd676a7o760fe8063c20e039@mail.gmail.com>

No.  As in "The life of..."

Cheers!!
Jim

On 12/10/07, derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yeah, Riley, the no spin zone, right?
>

-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From cfchrist at earthlink.net  Mon Dec 10 22:53:27 2007
From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:53:27 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [Spridgets] AC/DC and LBC's
Message-ID: <15469909.1197352407718.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

ummm , i got kinda got trashed with brian and brenda at sebring '02....... brian's car is a lotus.   i had the pleasure of sharing track time with them.

chuck.

-----Original Message-----
>From: brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com>
>Sent: Dec 10, 2007 4:12 PM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] AC/DC and LBC's
>
>AC/DC front man Brian Johnson, who took over for Bon Scott after he died,
>vintage races a Sports Racer and his wife, Brenda,
> Vintage Races a Bugeye! I had the pleasure to meet them at Sebring in 02.
>GREAT people!
>There's a pic on Ed's web site of their cars.
>
>Brian S.
>Bugeyeracer under resto
>
>> From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca
>>
>> The local classic rock station here plays a bit where a guy from AC/DC is
>> talking about ( I think! ) Bon Scott and his spouse says something to the
>> effect of "it's either the band or me" and he replied, "they're a great
>> band".  And, the rest is history.  ( he joined the band. )

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Dec 11 03:33:51 2007
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 05:33:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Lotus List?
Message-ID: <205cef430712110233i6187d6dduadba06919bb9559@mail.gmail.com>

List I meet a guy who has a Lotus is there a good list I can refer him to?
Thanks Lin

62 California Sprite "Pinky"
www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Dec 11 04:47:21 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:47:21 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Depression...
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV84A6D5A12A04A8AB3A6F0C86B0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY118-DAV84A6D5A12A04A8AB3A6F0C86B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP07E196B46C1ED8F799A7B6B8640@CEZ.ICE>

24 Virginians, or something like that ...

They do say that you'll have a blast though...

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Johnson
"....asked if I could drive a truck"

How much they payin', Jim? :)

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From bpazur at excel.net  Tue Dec 11 06:53:56 2007
From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:53:56 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Driving Schools
Message-ID: <200712111353.lBBDruDx031932@green.excel.net>

Bob Van Kirk wrote:


Bud,
  A friend of mine is talking about this school, how
much was the 3 day and what kind of car did you
use????  Will this get your license for most vintage
groups??


Bob -

When I went I think the cost was around $2500. We used an open wheel car with
a 2000cc Dodge (Neon?) engine. The have since changed to Honda power plants I
think.

They give everyone that completes the course a certificate just indicating
completion. But they grade you constantly during the three days on every
training exercize. Then you have to request another document, which I did,
that states your are qualified for an SCCA license. (A lot of vintage race
groups (like VSCDA don't issue 'licenses'). They go back and look at your
records and talk to your instructors, then, if they feel you are safe on the
track, they issue the document. They won't do that for everyone who completed
the course cause there are some of the drivers who just couldn't drive and
didn't pass. Then vintage groups (in my case, VSCDA)accept that document.


Bud Pazur

From sprite58 at hotmail.com  Tue Dec 11 07:58:14 2007
From: sprite58 at hotmail.com (r moses)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 09:58:14 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprites ... Golden Jubilee Official Poster
Message-ID: <BAY101-W14A71F400EB2B56A3BC6FDCB640@phx.gbl>

Golden Jubilee Official Poster

http://www.austinhealeysprite.org/regalia_sales/~Sprite%20Poster%20Flyer.pdf

This limited edition of 100 signed and numbered posters for the GOLDEN JUBILEE
commemorates the 50th anniversary of the legendary Austin-Healey Sprite.

Measuring 11 x 17 inches and printed on heavy satin-finish stock (basically
about the same thickness as poster board), the photo and poster design are
by California Graphic Artist John Loftus. The car is appropriately number
50for the golden anniversary of the Sprite.

Only 100 signed and numbered examples will be produced. The posters are
available only by mail order, and will be sold in the order that orders are
received. All proceeds, after expenses, go to support of the Golden Jubilee
meeting.

The cost is $19 each (plus $5 for packing and postage for up to three posters;
one poster is $24, two are $43, and three are $62). They will be sent in
mailing tubes
via First Class Mail with Delivery Confirmation. Limit of three per person,
please.

Please mail orders to SPRITE POSTER, 3439 NE SANDY BLVD, PMB 612, PORTLAND OR
97232 with checks and Money Orders payable to Sprite Poster.  If paying by
check, please allow five weeks for delivery.   Orders now being accepted.

By the way, the white space at the bottom of the poster is the perfect place
for
collecting autographs at the Golden Jubilee event, to be held in Carlisle,
Pennsylvania,
May 16-20, 2008.
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From mgmaven at bellsouth.net  Tue Dec 11 08:06:58 2007
From: mgmaven at bellsouth.net (Bob Spruck)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:06:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget Back Seat
Message-ID: <4.1.20071211095941.00b2df10@mail.bellsouth.net>

The cushion  on e-bay is definitely not Midget. I saw one "in the flesh" on
one of my six parts cars and I gave it to a Lister many years ago but I
cannot remember who it was. 

It was a rectangular shape that fit the rear parcel shelf and snapped to
the tonneau studs on the lower panel behind the seats. There would be no
way to call it a back seat as it was very thin. I think it was intended for
a very small person or amputee to sit sideways and unrestrained as was the
norm in the day as there is no leg room even with the seats in full forward
position.


Bob Spruck
MGMaven
Sharpsburg, GA
67 Midget Vintage Racer
72 Midget Street and Show
6 parts/project cars

From kevin at valentinephoto.net  Tue Dec 11 09:50:07 2007
From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:50:07 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Poly Bushing lube
Message-ID: <EFBEC9D5-5E2C-4929-943B-D8AFF1244226@valentinephoto.net>

Hey ALL,

I'll be installing poly bushings (black) on the inner front  
suspension.  The question is;  Should I use grease or  never-seize  
during assembly?

The reason I ask is - Some others who have installed Poly bushings  
had issues with a squeaking suspension (and I'd like to avoid that if  
possible ;)

Kevin V.

From bpazur at excel.net  Tue Dec 11 10:28:04 2007
From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:28:04 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Driving Schools
Message-ID: <200712111728.lBBHS4Ce023350@green.excel.net>

Bob Van Kirk wrote:

Bud,
  I am concerned that the open wheel experience isn't
that helpful for someone going in to say an MG or
similiar vehicle.  What is your opinion??
Thanks, Bob


Bob -

In some ways you are right. These cars are set up to handle wonderfully, and
are fairly forgiving to a novice driver. My Spridgets seemed to not be as
forgiving. But the rear end on these open wheel cars can still come around
very suddenly- I did about 2 1/2 360s on Turn 8, spun out coming onto the
short course after Turn 13, almost did on Turn 12, etc.

But the track and driving training is great. You just have to learn how your
own car handles at speed afterwards.

The real surprise I got in real racing was the corner traffic - Skip Barber's
insurance doesn't allow any passing in the corners - it's all a fairy tale
situation driving the line in the corners(except in wet weather, which we
had, and I'm glad we did, cause my first real race featured rain on the first
practice day). But in a real race, it seems like you are forced off the line
a lot in the corners. As Flounder once said, ' I never practice on the line'.
The corner traffic always unnerved me a bit. I was able to bail out into the
gravel sometimes. But what an adrenaline rush. One of the best experiences of
my life. Go for it!


Bud Pazur

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Tue Dec 11 10:41:27 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:41:27 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Driving Schools
References: <200712111728.lBBHS4Ce023350@green.excel.net>
Message-ID: <00c401c83c1d$0f14d200$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>

>  I am concerned that the open wheel experience isn't
> that helpful for someone going in to say an MG or
> similiar vehicle.  What is your opinion??

I got to "audit" the class when Willy Thompson (Not WST) took the 3-day Skip 
Barber Open Wheel course. No driving for me, but I got to watch and to sit 
through all of the classroom time. The only downside that I saw for those 
NOT intending to compete at or above this level was that they spent half a 
day on double-clutch down-shifts which is of little value to those not 
running dog boxes. If you are planning to do this, by all means keep your 
eyes out for the $500-off coupons!
David Lieb 

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Tue Dec 11 10:49:39 2007
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 09:49:39 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Driving Schools
References: <200712111728.lBBHS4Ce023350@green.excel.net>
	<00c401c83c1d$0f14d200$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <000c01c83c1e$36658f10$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

What?? Everyone doesn't do this on their spridgets?  Actually I rarely 
double clutch a shift except in rare situations, but I downshift virtually 
every gear every time.  Am I wearing out my clutch and gearbox prematurely? 
Don't bother answering this rhetorical question because I'll keep doing it 
anyway cause it sounds cool.  Maybe thats why my brakes last so long.

Glen


> I got to "audit" the class when Willy Thompson (Not WST) took the 3-day 
> Skip
> Barber Open Wheel course. No driving for me, but I got to watch and to sit
> through all of the classroom time. The only downside that I saw for those
> NOT intending to compete at or above this level was that they spent half a
> day on double-clutch down-shifts which is of little value to those not
> running dog boxes. If you are planning to do this, by all means keep your
> eyes out for the $500-off coupons!
> David Lieb

From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 11 11:03:32 2007
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:03:32 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Poly Bushing lube
In-Reply-To: <EFBEC9D5-5E2C-4929-943B-D8AFF1244226@valentinephoto.net>
References: <EFBEC9D5-5E2C-4929-943B-D8AFF1244226@valentinephoto.net>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910712111003t71ed6d4o17a97586894f1eea@mail.gmail.com>

You should use rubber there, IMHO.
Use poly for sway bars and rear springs.
Those who know more than me can tell you why.

From type79 at ix.netcom.com  Tue Dec 11 13:08:28 2007
From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:08:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Driving Schools
Message-ID: <20451563.1197403708966.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I've double-clutched since day one on every manual shift car I've ever owned. It's second nature to me and is a very smooth way to shift gears.

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/

-----Original Message-----
>From: Glen Byrns <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
>Sent: Dec 11, 2007 12:49 PM
>To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Driving Schools
>
>What?? Everyone doesn't do this on their spridgets?  Actually I rarely 
>double clutch a shift except in rare situations, but I downshift virtually 
>every gear every time.  Am I wearing out my clutch and gearbox prematurely? 
>Don't bother answering this rhetorical question because I'll keep doing it 
>anyway cause it sounds cool.  Maybe thats why my brakes last so long.

From nases at verizon.net  Tue Dec 11 13:34:09 2007
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:34:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] d shaft universal
Message-ID: <000301c83c35$3299e9a0$7001a8c0@na.sjcount.com>

Is there any way to tell if the universal for a Mk I needs replacing.  The
drive shaft is out of the car and I haven't driven the car yet so.....
 

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Tue Dec 11 13:56:49 2007
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:56:49 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Tires
Message-ID: <475EF991.4060400@wi.net>

OK, it's sleeting and icing and I'm waiting for parts so I'm bored and 
thought I'd stir the pot a bit.  With all of youse guys rebuilding 
multiple Spridgets and tires being as expensive as they are I always 
wondered were you were getting your tires. 

http://21st-century-tires.com/chengshan/chengshan.html

Trying to remain somewhat P.C., a lesser minded fellow might have fun 
with the road in China on which it's located.  I didn't see any tires in 
our size.

They may actually be a great company...just thought I'd get someone going.

Dave
59 :{)
59 MGA 1500
05 MCS
Burlington WI

From bpazur at excel.net  Tue Dec 11 14:01:42 2007
From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:01:42 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Driving Schools
Message-ID: <200712112101.lBBL1gso021662@green.excel.net>

What?? Everyone doesn't do this on their spridgets?  Actually I rarely
>double clutch a shift except in rare situations, but I downshift virtually
>every gear every time.  Am I wearing out my clutch and gearbox prematurely?
>Don't bother answering this rhetorical question because I'll keep doing it
>anyway cause it sounds cool.  Maybe thats why my brakes last so long.



I've always double clutched on all my driver cars over these long years.
Maybe that is why I've never replaced a clutch - even after as much as 160K
miles. I guess I'd rather replace brakes than the clutch.

Bud Pazur

From refisk at chartermi.net  Tue Dec 11 14:09:10 2007
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:09:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Driving Schools
References: <200712112101.lBBL1gso021662@green.excel.net>
Message-ID: <167901c83c3a$130f7910$6401a8c0@refisk>

My grandmother used to drive like that.  :-)

Anon

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bud Pazur" <bpazur at excel.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Driving Schools


> I've always double clutched on all my driver cars over these long years.
> Maybe that is why I've never replaced a clutch - even after as much as 
> 160K
> miles. I guess I'd rather replace brakes than the clutch.
>
> Bud Pazur

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Tue Dec 11 14:16:13 2007
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:16:13 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Driving Schools
References: <20451563.1197403708966.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <000f01c83c3b$0f4709f0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

I paid attention when I drove to lunch today and realized I double clutch 
every gear.  Odd habit from teenage years.  The friend that sold me my 
bugeye taught me about English cars in '69.  As I recall, he told me "The 
English trannys don't downshift for $hit since their synchro cones are made 
of butter".  He then taught me to double clutch and that was that. Wise 
fellow.
I've changed several clutches over the years, but never had to re-do a trans 
rebuild.   Hmmmmmm...?


Glen

> I've double-clutched since day one on every manual shift car I've ever 
> owned. It's second nature to me and is a very smooth way to shift gears.
>
> jay fishbein
> wallingford, ct
> home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Tue Dec 11 14:20:14 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:20:14 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
Message-ID: <007b01c83c3b$a06b4220$e141c660$@com>

So, I've got a summer place over at Green Lake. I was built in '59 as a
summer place. never intended as a year 'round home. My folks bought it in
'68. About 10 years ago, my folks gave it to my siblings and I. That didn't
work out so well, (predicted that) and I bought it from my siblings.

 

The place has a 220v baseboard heater, and a propane wall furnace. Years
ago, natural gas was not available there, but within the last few years, it
has become available. I looked into getting natural gas to the house. a
fairly inexpensive installation, as they charge $4 a foot to get it to the
house, and it's right across the street.

 

But, here's the kicker. (welcome to Wisco, your idiots in Madison in
action). All homes built before something like 1979 have to have an "energy
audit" before they'll sell natural gas to you. In order to qualify, I'd have
to replace all windows, replace any wall insulation, new doors, insulate the
floor, etc. 

 

So, I could have a 15,000 sq ft home with one person living in it, heated to
80F as long as it meets their energy audit requirements. They're happy to
take that money.but to get natural gas service to extend my lake house
season a month or two, I'll have to drop about $30,000 in the house.

 

Arrggghhh

 

 

Wm. Severin Thompson

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From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net  Tue Dec 11 14:25:56 2007
From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:25:56 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
References: <007b01c83c3b$a06b4220$e141c660$@com>
Message-ID: <002401c83c3c$6beda5a0$f675fea9@p0k7l8>

Keep the propane heater, if they'll allow it.  Now send what's left over
from the 30 K to me!!

Paul A

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson at thicko.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 1:20 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)


> So, I've got a summer place over at Green Lake. I was built in '59 as a
> summer place. never intended as a year 'round home. My folks bought it in
> '68. About 10 years ago, my folks gave it to my siblings and I. That
didn't
> work out so well, (predicted that) and I bought it from my siblings.
>
>
>
> The place has a 220v baseboard heater, and a propane wall furnace. Years
> ago, natural gas was not available there, but within the last few years,
it
> has become available. I looked into getting natural gas to the house. a
> fairly inexpensive installation, as they charge $4 a foot to get it to the
> house, and it's right across the street.
>
>
>
> But, here's the kicker. (welcome to Wisco, your idiots in Madison in
> action). All homes built before something like 1979 have to have an
"energy
> audit" before they'll sell natural gas to you. In order to qualify, I'd
have
> to replace all windows, replace any wall insulation, new doors, insulate
the
> floor, etc.
>
>
>
> So, I could have a 15,000 sq ft home with one person living in it, heated
to
> 80F as long as it meets their energy audit requirements. They're happy to
> take that money.but to get natural gas service to extend my lake house
> season a month or two, I'll have to drop about $30,000 in the house.
>
>
>
> Arrggghhh
>
>
>
>
>
> Wm. Severin Thompson

From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 11 14:32:55 2007
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:32:55 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
In-Reply-To: <002401c83c3c$6beda5a0$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
References: <007b01c83c3b$a06b4220$e141c660$@com>
	<002401c83c3c$6beda5a0$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910712111332h3f8dc465ta73ca0ae2fb50719@mail.gmail.com>

I've had propane heat and it wasn't that bad.  The cost would have to
be WAY out of line before I'd consider re-insulating the entire
structure.
OTOH, you might look into upgrading one part at a time and eventually
get tree-hugger compliant.  Maybe do windows one year, have some
insulation blown in the next, etc.

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Tue Dec 11 14:54:59 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:54:59 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
In-Reply-To: <002401c83c3c$6beda5a0$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
References: <007b01c83c3b$a06b4220$e141c660$@com>
	<002401c83c3c$6beda5a0$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
Message-ID: <009601c83c40$7bca7b20$735f7160$@com>

Well, a couple reasons why I want natural gas...

Propane was about $60 for a 100lb bottle... now it's $220.

Also, I really want to install a traditional style furnace, with a
thermostat, so I can keep the heat in there on to keep the pipes from
freezing during the last month and first month of the extended season.

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Asgeirsson [mailto:PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 3:26 PM
To: Wm. Severin Thompson; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)

Keep the propane heater, if they'll allow it.  Now send what's left over
from the 30 K to me!!

Paul A

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson at thicko.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 1:20 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Tue Dec 11 14:57:19 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:57:19 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910712111332h3f8dc465ta73ca0ae2fb50719@mail.gmail.com>
References: <007b01c83c3b$a06b4220$e141c660$@com>	
	<002401c83c3c$6beda5a0$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
	<5f00d9910712111332h3f8dc465ta73ca0ae2fb50719@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <009701c83c40$ced3ce20$6c7b6a60$@com>

Yeah, the solutions are all doable... I just don't think the government
should be able to tell me to do it before a purchase of a widely available
product.


-----Original Message-----
From: derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 3:33 PM
To: Paul Asgeirsson
Cc: Wm. Severin Thompson; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)

I've had propane heat and it wasn't that bad.  The cost would have to
be WAY out of line before I'd consider re-insulating the entire
structure.
OTOH, you might look into upgrading one part at a time and eventually
get tree-hugger compliant.  Maybe do windows one year, have some
insulation blown in the next, etc.

From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 11 15:03:19 2007
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:03:19 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
In-Reply-To: <009601c83c40$7bca7b20$735f7160$@com>
References: <007b01c83c3b$a06b4220$e141c660$@com>
	<002401c83c3c$6beda5a0$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
	<009601c83c40$7bca7b20$735f7160$@com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910712111403t3ca23684g1d606dcc19c63ba5@mail.gmail.com>

I thing the Jersey OHIT team can handle a stealth install.  While
they're at it, get them to wire everything to the top side of the
electric meter instead of the bottom.

Side note.  A friend of mine lives in an area where they charge a flat
fee for water every month.  He is seriously considering building some
sort of water powered generator.
He also has a small working Solar powered air conditioning unit.  The
only drawback is the unit uses Anhydrous Ammonia instead of Freon and
AA is not easy to get because of the other uses for it (Chrystal
Meth).  It works like the old Propane powered RV fridges.

From dwgwater at hotmail.com  Tue Dec 11 15:11:47 2007
From: dwgwater at hotmail.com (David Groundwater)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:11:47 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
In-Reply-To: <007b01c83c3b$a06b4220$e141c660$@com>
References: <007b01c83c3b$a06b4220$e141c660$@com>
Message-ID: <BAY135-W197E1899123C6061C44812CE640@phx.gbl>

Build an energy compliant outhouse with a little gas water heater and run the
service to that.....Dave70Midget

> From: wsthompson at thicko.com> To: spridgets at autox.team.net> Date: Tue, 11 Dec
2007 15:20:14 -0600> Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)> > So,
I've got a summer place over at Green Lake. I was built in '59 as a> summer
place. never intended as a year 'round home. My folks bought it in> '68. About
10 years ago, my folks gave it to my siblings and I. That didn't> work out so
well, (predicted that) and I bought it from my siblings.> > > > The place has
a 220v baseboard heater, and a propane wall furnace. Years> ago, natural gas
was not available there, but within the last few years, it> has become
available. I looked into getting natural gas to the house. a> fairly
inexpensive installation, as they charge $4 a foot to get it to the> house,
and it's right across the street.> > > > But, here's the kicker. (welcome to
Wisco, your idiots in Madison in> action). All homes built before something
like 1979 have to have an "energy> audit" before they'll sell natural gas to
you. In order to qualify, I'd have> to replace all windows, replace any wall
insulation, new doors, insulate the> floor, etc. > > > > So, I could have a
15,000 sq ft home with one person living in it, heated to> 80F as long as it
meets their energy audit requirements. They're happy to> take that money.but
to get natural gas service to extend my lake house> season a month or two,
I'll have to drop about $30,000 in the house.> > > > Arrggghhh> > > > > > Wm.
Severin Thompson> >

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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Dec 11 15:16:50 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:16:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
In-Reply-To: <BAY135-W197E1899123C6061C44812CE640@phx.gbl>
References: <007b01c83c3b$a06b4220$e141c660$@com>
	<BAY135-W197E1899123C6061C44812CE640@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP04EBDD3BBEB32DA4F90BE2B8640@CEZ.ICE>

A natural gas BBQ? :)

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of David Groundwater
Sent: December 11, 2007 5:12 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)

Build an energy compliant outhouse with a little gas water heater and run
the
service to that.....Dave70Midget

> From: wsthompson at thicko.com> To: spridgets at autox.team.net> Date: Tue, 11
Dec
2007 15:20:14 -0600> Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)> >
So,
I've got a summer place over at Green Lake. I was built in '59 as a> summer
place. never intended as a year 'round home. My folks bought it in> '68.
About
10 years ago, my folks gave it to my siblings and I. That didn't> work out
so
well, (predicted that) and I bought it from my siblings.> > > > The place
has
a 220v baseboard heater, and a propane wall furnace. Years> ago, natural gas
was not available there, but within the last few years, it> has become
available. I looked into getting natural gas to the house. a> fairly
inexpensive installation, as they charge $4 a foot to get it to the> house,
and it's right across the street.> > > > But, here's the kicker. (welcome to
Wisco, your idiots in Madison in> action). All homes built before something
like 1979 have to have an "energy> audit" before they'll sell natural gas to
you. In order to qualify, I'd have> to replace all windows, replace any wall
insulation, new doors, insulate the> floor, etc. > > > > So, I could have a
15,000 sq ft home with one person living in it, heated to> 80F as long as it
meets their energy audit requirements. They're happy to> take that money.but
to get natural gas service to extend my lake house> season a month or two,
I'll have to drop about $30,000 in the house.> > > > Arrggghhh> > > > > >
Wm.
Severin Thompson> >

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From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Dec 11 15:30:00 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:30:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Tires
In-Reply-To: <475EF991.4060400@wi.net>
References: <475EF991.4060400@wi.net>
Message-ID: <475F0F68.5040304@comcast.net>

David Woerpel wrote:
> OK, it's sleeting and icing and I'm waiting for parts so I'm bored and 
> thought I'd stir the pot a bit.  With all of youse guys rebuilding 
> multiple Spridgets and tires being as expensive as they are I always 
> wondered were you were getting your tires. 
> 
> http://21st-century-tires.com/chengshan/chengshan.html

The chinese tires have been recalled last summer.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Dec 11 15:35:40 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:35:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
In-Reply-To: <007b01c83c3b$a06b4220$e141c660$@com>
References: <007b01c83c3b$a06b4220$e141c660$@com>
Message-ID: <475F10BC.3060601@comcast.net>

Wm. Severin Thompson wrote:
>  I'll have to drop about $30,000 in the house.

WST,

I'll do the job for 29,500.00
Gas? Stealth? Yeah, we did that already.
Grab a meter from the guy up the street if you don't know anybody at the 
gas company, open the street at night (you will have to know a paving 
contractor) a roll of polly gas pipe and a case or 2 of brew.
What's the problem?


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Dec 11 15:41:33 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:41:33 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] d shaft universal
In-Reply-To: <000301c83c35$3299e9a0$7001a8c0@na.sjcount.com>
References: <000301c83c35$3299e9a0$7001a8c0@na.sjcount.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712111441g319d7e53nc0e51c4218095d77@mail.gmail.com>

Phil,

To the best of my knowledge once the shaft is removed the U-joints and yokes
can be played with.. making them move through their whole range of motion
will quickly determine which is bad. I put the drive shaft in a vice and
then run the U-joint through a range of motion check by hand. You can feel
it if the U-joint is the slightest bit sloppy and any direction. In your
case, I'd advise just replace the U-joints while you have everything out.
They are cheap and the piece of mind is well worth it. You may have to take
it to a machine shop to get the old ones out and press in the new ones.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Dec 11, 2007 2:34 PM, Phil Nase <nases at verizon.net> wrote:

> Is there any way to tell if the universal for a Mk I needs replacing.  The
> drive shaft is out of the car and I haven't driven the car yet so.....
>
>
> Phil Nase
> Quakertown, PA
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Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From peter at nosimport.com  Tue Dec 11 15:44:41 2007
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:44:41 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
In-Reply-To: <007b01c83c3b$a06b4220$e141c660$@com>
References: <007b01c83c3b$a06b4220$e141c660$@com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071211164248.03610428@nosimport.com>

At 03:20 PM 12/11/2007, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote:

>But, here's the kicker. (welcome to Wisco, your idiots in Madison in
>action). All homes built before something like 1979 have to have an "energy
>audit" before they'll sell natural gas to you. In order to qualify, I'd have
>to replace all windows, replace any wall insulation, new doors, insulate the
>floor, etc.
=======
Show them how you insulated with cellulose.... green cellulose, with 
portraits of presidents.

I may be in Madison.......


PPP 

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Dec 11 15:51:34 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:51:34 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20071211164248.03610428@nosimport.com>
References: <007b01c83c3b$a06b4220$e141c660$@com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20071211164248.03610428@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712111451l2fe2fc2ctf0b03720b9a3283a@mail.gmail.com>

Way cheaper.  For $20 I'll sell you my Texas Chili recipe. You then bottle
your own gas for the propane burner. Such a deal - you stay fed and produce
your heating fuel from within!!
-- 
Cheers!!
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Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>


On Dec 11, 2007 4:44 PM, Peter C <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> At 03:20 PM 12/11/2007, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote:
>
> >But, here's the kicker. (welcome to Wisco, your idiots in Madison in
> >action). All homes built before something like 1979 have to have an
> "energy
> >audit" before they'll sell natural gas to you. In order to qualify, I'd
> have
> >to replace all windows, replace any wall insulation, new doors, insulate
> the
> >floor, etc.
> =======
> Show them how you insulated with cellulose.... green cellulose, with
> portraits of presidents.
>
> I may be in Madison.......
>
>
> PPP
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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Tue Dec 11 15:42:25 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:42:25 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
Message-ID: <380-2200712211224225468@earthlink.net>

Flounder wrote:  ""I just don't think the government should be able to tell
me to do it before a purchase of a widely available product."

Ah, but that is the price you pay for living in a state that has
Wisconsin's long and proud history as the bastion of American socialism. 
In fact, the Socialist Party of Wisconsin was 110 this year, and is older
than the national party!

Buster Evans

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Tue Dec 11 16:01:57 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:01:57 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20071211164248.03610428@nosimport.com>
References: <007b01c83c3b$a06b4220$e141c660$@com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20071211164248.03610428@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <00d301c83c49$d678f6b0$836ae410$@com>

Yeah, or in the fine tradition of Wisconsin serial killers, just go all
Jeffrey Dahmer/Ed Gein on the inspector, and bury him under the crawlspace.


Show them how you insulated with cellulose.... green cellulose, with 
portraits of presidents.

I may be in Madison.......


PPP 

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue Dec 11 16:06:05 2007
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:06:05 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Driving Schools
In-Reply-To: <20451563.1197403708966.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <C38457DD.132B7%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Second to first must be exciting.
>>  I rarely 
>> double clutch a shift except in rare situations, but I downshift virtually
>> every gear every time.  

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Tue Dec 11 16:07:00 2007
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:07:00 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
References: <007b01c83c3b$a06b4220$e141c660$@com>
Message-ID: <002401c83c4a$892ca4f0$c7a1bf46@personal>

They just may wait a long time for your business.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson at thicko.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 3:20 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)


> So, I've got a summer place over at Green Lake. I was built in '59 as a
> summer place. never intended as a year 'round home. My folks bought it in
> '68. About 10 years ago, my folks gave it to my siblings and I. That 
> didn't
> work out so well, (predicted that) and I bought it from my siblings.
>
>
>
> The place has a 220v baseboard heater, and a propane wall furnace. Years
> ago, natural gas was not available there, but within the last few years, 
> it
> has become available. I looked into getting natural gas to the house. a
> fairly inexpensive installation, as they charge $4 a foot to get it to the
> house, and it's right across the street.
>
>
>
> But, here's the kicker. (welcome to Wisco, your idiots in Madison in
> action). All homes built before something like 1979 have to have an 
> "energy
> audit" before they'll sell natural gas to you. In order to qualify, I'd 
> have
> to replace all windows, replace any wall insulation, new doors, insulate 
> the
> floor, etc.
>
>
>
> So, I could have a 15,000 sq ft home with one person living in it, heated 
> to
> 80F as long as it meets their energy audit requirements. They're happy to
> take that money.but to get natural gas service to extend my lake house
> season a month or two, I'll have to drop about $30,000 in the house.
>
>
>
> Arrggghhh
>
>
>
>
>
> Wm. Severin Thompson
>
> ~iii<O
>
>
>
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>
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From peter at nosimport.com  Tue Dec 11 16:15:08 2007
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:15:08 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
In-Reply-To: <380-2200712211224225468@earthlink.net>
References: <380-2200712211224225468@earthlink.net>
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At 04:42 PM 12/11/2007, Robert Bruce Evans wrote:

>Flounder wrote:  ""I just don't think the government should be able to tell
>me to do it before a purchase of a widely available product."
>
>Ah, but that is the price you pay for living in a state that has
>Wisconsin's long and proud history as the bastion of American socialism.
>In fact, the Socialist Party of Wisconsin was 110 this year, and is older
>than the national party!
>
>Buster Evans
========================
The birthplace of the Republican Party is about 6 miles from WST's 
cottage in Ripon WI.
The John Birch Society headquarters was in Appleton, and may still 
be. (I don't want to google them, I might get on a "list")
Speaking of lists, Joe McCarthy is still in Appleton....    (and 
Houdini spent his life trying to escape)  It only took me 5 years!

PPP 

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue Dec 11 16:18:52 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:18:52 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
References: <007b01c83c3b$a06b4220$e141c660$@com><7.0.1.0.2.20071211164248.03610428@nosimport.com>
	<00d301c83c49$d678f6b0$836ae410$@com>
Message-ID: <096d01c83c4c$32443110$6401a8c0@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson at thicko.com>
To: "'Peter C'" <peter at nosimport.com>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)


Yeah, or in the fine tradition of Wisconsin serial killers, just go all
Jeffrey Dahmer/Ed Gein on the inspector, and bury him under the crawlspace.


=================================

You, coming from near the Illinois home of John Wayne Gacy, who actually did 
bury his victims under his house and killed more people than Gein and Dahmer 
combined, are making the WI folks a bit nervous.  Are they sure they had the 
right man in Gacy?  Why did you really leave IL?  Why do you want to bury 
the inspector under your house?  Old habit?

Pretty weird.

LAD 

From thefirebuilds at gmail.com  Tue Dec 11 16:20:14 2007
From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:20:14 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Driving Schools
In-Reply-To: <200712112101.lBBL1gso021662@green.excel.net>
References: <200712112101.lBBL1gso021662@green.excel.net>
Message-ID: <8a336b9d0712111520x6f033dfcwea53758808d9c733@mail.gmail.com>

Maybe that's why I have no memory of chasing your bumper into a corner.

On Dec 11, 2007 3:01 PM, Bud Pazur <bpazur at excel.net> wrote:

>
> I've always double clutched on all my driver cars over these long years.
> Maybe that is why I've never replaced a clutch - even after as much as 160K
> miles. I guess I'd rather replace brakes than the clutch.
>
> Bud Pazur
>

>



-- 
"Well you are the one, the one that lies close to me
Whisper's "Hello, I've missed you quite terribly"
I fell in love, in love with you suddenly
Now there's no place else I could be but here in your arms" - Hellogoodbye

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Tue Dec 11 16:28:49 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:28:49 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
In-Reply-To: <096d01c83c4c$32443110$6401a8c0@Larry>
References: <007b01c83c3b$a06b4220$e141c660$@com><7.0.1.0.2.20071211164248.03610428@nosimport.com>
	<00d301c83c49$d678f6b0$836ae410$@com>
	<096d01c83c4c$32443110$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <00e001c83c4d$978d0910$c6a71b30$@com>

Come on over Larry... we'll talk about it.

Tell Carrie you'll be late for dinner.



=================================

You, coming from near the Illinois home of John Wayne Gacy, who actually did

bury his victims under his house and killed more people than Gein and Dahmer

combined, are making the WI folks a bit nervous.  Are they sure they had the

right man in Gacy?  Why did you really leave IL?  Why do you want to bury 
the inspector under your house?  Old habit?

Pretty weird.

LAD 

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Tue Dec 11 17:50:22 2007
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:50:22 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Driving Schools
In-Reply-To: <200712112101.lBBL1gso021662@green.excel.net>
Message-ID: <20071212005022.XDYC16876.hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>

>From the BMW circles I belong to, the best way to put it is "..brakes are
cheaper than clutches, so have fun."

I tried heel/toe, but my feet are too big to make it fun and comfortable.
Double clutching is great with a car you know.

Careful when you try that in a friend's car that does not know about that
with them in the passenger seat.  It is fun watching them reach for the
fitzle and grab bars.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bud
Pazur
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 3:02 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Driving Schools

What?? Everyone doesn't do this on their spridgets?  Actually I rarely
>double clutch a shift except in rare situations, but I downshift virtually
>every gear every time.  Am I wearing out my clutch and gearbox prematurely?
>Don't bother answering this rhetorical question because I'll keep doing it
>anyway cause it sounds cool.  Maybe thats why my brakes last so long.



I've always double clutched on all my driver cars over these long years.
Maybe that is why I've never replaced a clutch - even after as much as 160K
miles. I guess I'd rather replace brakes than the clutch.

Bud Pazur

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Tue Dec 11 17:59:21 2007
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:59:21 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
In-Reply-To: <475F10BC.3060601@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20071212005921.BYUS22267.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>

Wish it were that easy-
I guy local here in MKE had a set up sort of like that split out for his
garage/inground pool, and they are nailing him.

<http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=601047>

Like a Green Lake plot won't rise to that value in 5 years anyway  :) 

Chris

Wm. Severin Thompson wrote:
>  I'll have to drop about $30,000 in the house.

WST,

I'll do the job for 29,500.00
Gas? Stealth? Yeah, we did that already.
Grab a meter from the guy up the street if you don't know anybody at the 
gas company, open the street at night (you will have to know a paving 
contractor) a roll of polly gas pipe and a case or 2 of brew.
What's the problem?

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Tue Dec 11 18:00:17 2007
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:00:17 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] d shaft universal
Message-ID: <023901c83c5a$5c6b05a0$056a010a@mail2world.com>

John Twist does 'em in 5 minutes!
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDX17xf9grA
 
-=Chris

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Jim Johnson [bmwwxman at gmail.com]
Sent: 12/11/2007 5:45:33 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] d shaft universal 

Phil, 

To the best of my knowledge once the shaft is removed the U-joints and
yokes 
can be played with.. making them move through their whole range of
motion 
will quickly determine which is bad. I put the drive shaft in a vice and
then run the U-joint through a range of motion check by hand. You can
feel 
it if the U-joint is the slightest bit sloppy and any direction. In your
case, I'd advise just replace the U-joints while you have everything
out. 
They are cheap and the piece of mind is well worth it. You may have to
take 
it to a machine shop to get the old ones out and press in the new ones. 

Cheers!! 
Jim 

On Dec 11, 2007 2:34 PM, Phil Nase <nases at verizon.net> wrote: 

> Is there any way to tell if the universal for a Mk I needs replacing.
The 
> drive shaft is out of the car and I haven't driven the car yet so.....
> 
> 
> Phil Nase 
> Quakertown, PA 
>
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa<http://home.comcast.net/%7Ephilnase
cpa> 
>  
. 

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Tue Dec 11 10:15:56 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:15:56 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Poly Bushing lube
References: <EFBEC9D5-5E2C-4929-943B-D8AFF1244226@valentinephoto.net>
Message-ID: <00bd01c83c19$7ec444e0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>

> I'll be installing poly bushings (black) on the inner front
> suspension.  The question is;  Should I use grease or  never-seize
> during assembly?

Mine came with a tube of thick and sticky clear grease that I think was 
silicone-based. Seems to have worked well as I have had no issues with 
squeaking over many miles. I understand that some of the newer compounds 
have lubrication built in. Might want to check the manufacturer's website...
David Lieb 

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Tue Dec 11 18:02:55 2007
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:02:55 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Poly Bushing lube
Message-ID: <04a501c83c5a$ba8a2d00$056a010a@mail2world.com>

I haven't done this (yet), but I've heard that there's a special grease
that's supposed to be used with them. Can you contact the supplier to
find out?
 
-=Chris

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: K. Valentine [kevin at valentinephoto.net]
Sent: 12/11/2007 11:54:07 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Poly Bushing lube 

Hey ALL, 

I'll be installing poly bushings (black) on the inner front 
suspension. The question is; Should I use grease or never-seize 
during assembly? 

The reason I ask is - Some others who have installed Poly bushings 
had issues with a squeaking suspension (and I'd like to avoid that if 
possible ;) 

Kevin V. 

. 

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Tue Dec 11 18:15:34 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:15:34 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
In-Reply-To: <20071212005921.BYUS22267.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
References: <475F10BC.3060601@comcast.net>
	<20071212005921.BYUS22267.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
Message-ID: <011001c83c5c$82eeb940$88cc2bc0$@com>

Well, 20 years from now, we'll sell the Dream Farm, and have the Green Lake
place turned into our year 'round place. I've got 2 daughters at DePaul, and
2 stepsons yet to go to college... so, I don't have extra dough to be
throwing at the lake house now. 


Like a Green Lake plot won't rise to that value in 5 years anyway  :) 

Chris

Wm. Severin Thompson wrote:
>  I'll have to drop about $30,000 in the house.

WST,

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue Dec 11 19:03:19 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:03:19 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
References: <380-2200712211224225468@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <09a701c83c63$2b18e5e0$6401a8c0@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Bruce Evans" <b-evans at earthlink.net>
To: "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson at thicko.com>; "derf" 
<derf247 at gmail.com>; "Paul Asgeirsson" <PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)


Flounder wrote:  ""I just don't think the government should be able to tell
me to do it before a purchase of a widely available product."

Ah, but that is the price you pay for living in a state that has
Wisconsin's long and proud history as the bastion of American socialism.
In fact, the Socialist Party of Wisconsin was 110 this year, and is older
than the national party!

Buster Evans
_______________________________________________

Ahh, Buster, the socialist tendencies never end here in WI, either.  Why, we 
have free public schools through high school and reduced in-state tuition 
for college after that.  Get this, we have public police and fire 
departments and many public hospitals. Would you believe that we have roads 
here that are publicly owned?  Not a privately owned toll road in the whole 
damned state for some lucky capitalist to get rich on.  Shameful.

Did you know that the local fire department operates a bunch of rescue 
squads that respond to all fire calls and ambulance requests?  That puts the 
private fire departments right out of business.  Hey, the city I live in 
plows the snow off the streets instead of hiring private contractors to do 
that.  How can a profiteer make a fortune off of our tax dollars when that 
happens?  As a local businessman, it just pisses me off.  I mean I would be 
more than willing to pay higher taxes so somebody can get rich by profitting 
off of these services.  It's just un-American.

Can you imagine all of that?  I'll bet it doesn't happen by you, does it?

LAD

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 11 19:06:14 2007
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:06:14 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
In-Reply-To: <007b01c83c3b$a06b4220$e141c660$@com>
References: <007b01c83c3b$a06b4220$e141c660$@com>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10712111806o736b375agaeb1cba2646bf555@mail.gmail.com>

WST,

That's one BIG lake house!

My house is 4500 square feet.  Heat, water are both natural gas.  Winter
runs about $150.00.  Home built in '92.

In our area in Southern Oregon, from time-to-time, the utility company
offers tax incentives for upgrading older homes.  Not always the full amount
if you hire it done, but should you elect to do it, it most likely will.

Windows help but the biggest savings is insulation.

I've had all electric, including heat-pump type and gas is my choice.

Herb

On Dec 11, 2007 1:20 PM, Wm. Severin Thompson <wsthompson at thicko.com> wrote:

> So, I've got a summer place over at Green Lake. I was built in '59 as a
> summer place. never intended as a year 'round home. My folks bought it in
> '68. About 10 years ago, my folks gave it to my siblings and I. That
> didn't
> work out so well, (predicted that) and I bought it from my siblings.
>
>
>
> The place has a 220v baseboard heater, and a propane wall furnace. Years
> ago, natural gas was not available there, but within the last few years,
> it
> has become available. I looked into getting natural gas to the house. a
> fairly inexpensive installation, as they charge $4 a foot to get it to the
> house, and it's right across the street.
>
>
>
> But, here's the kicker. (welcome to Wisco, your idiots in Madison in
> action). All homes built before something like 1979 have to have an
> "energy
> audit" before they'll sell natural gas to you. In order to qualify, I'd
> have
> to replace all windows, replace any wall insulation, new doors, insulate
> the
> floor, etc.
>
>
>
> So, I could have a 15,000 sq ft home with one person living in it, heated
> to
> 80F as long as it meets their energy audit requirements. They're happy to
> take that money.but to get natural gas service to extend my lake house
> season a month or two, I'll have to drop about $30,000 in the house.
>
>
>
> Arrggghhh
>
>
>
>
>
> Wm. Severin Thompson
>
> ~iii<O
>
>
>
>  <mailto:wsthompson at thicko.com> wsthompson at thicko.com
>
>  <http://www.thicko.com/> www.thicko.com
>
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 11 19:07:37 2007
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:07:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Lotus List?
In-Reply-To: <205cef430712110233i6187d6dduadba06919bb9559@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <104222.49017.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote:

> List I meet a guy who has a Lotus is there a good
> list I can refer him to?
> Thanks Lin

Start here-- http://www.espritfactfile.com/ . 

Yours truly got a credit at the end ;-). Tell your
friend to say hi to Karl Franz for me.

Ron


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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Tue Dec 11 19:01:31 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:01:31 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
Message-ID: <380-22007123122131625@earthlink.net>

Chris Manuel wrote:  "I guy local here in MKE had a set up sort of like
that split out for his garage/inground pool, and they are nailing him."

Aw, c'mon, now, WTF is "criminal-thinking counseling"?  The anal orifice
has proven he ALREADY thinks like a criminal.  And just to prove what a
pair of lying lowlifes he and his attorney were, they had the gall to deny
he had anything to do with it.  But wife owned up to it!

I guess what pisses me off is that the pond scum was cheating not just the
gas company, but everyone else who had to pay for what *he* was stealing! 
Some people think these types are heroes because they stole from the "big
companies".  Like hell, anyone who steals from a big company is no better
than a sneak thief or shoplifter, for we all have to pay for their thefts! 
Do people *really* believe that big companies just absorb such losses and
don't pass them on to the consumer?  Duh!  (And I believe that *everybody*
who knows Frank, knows he was joking!!!  He ain't that kinda guy!  I mean,
Sprite headlight rims are one thing, but....)

Buste

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue Dec 11 19:18:55 2007
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:18:55 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10712111806o736b375agaeb1cba2646bf555@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C384850F.132D5%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> My house is 4500 square feet.
Mine is almost 1200 square feet, and I still owe $400,000 on it.

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Dec 11 19:25:29 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:25:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
In-Reply-To: <20071212005921.BYUS22267.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
References: <20071212005921.BYUS22267.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
Message-ID: <475F4699.20505@comcast.net>

Chris Manuel wrote:
> Wish it were that easy-
> I guy local here in MKE had a set up sort of like that split out for his
> garage/inground pool, and they are nailing him.

I did not say "bypass the meter" I said go GET a meter from the guy up 
the street ;)


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Tue Dec 11 19:30:14 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:30:14 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10712111806o736b375agaeb1cba2646bf555@mail.gmail.com>
References: <007b01c83c3b$a06b4220$e141c660$@com>
	<2ad6c6b10712111806o736b375agaeb1cba2646bf555@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <014001c83c66$f1387940$d3a96bc0$@com>

No, my house isn't 15,000 sq ft. 

 

I was saying, I could have a palace (I don't) on the lake like some do, and
heat the shit out of it to a ridiculous temperature, but as long as I passed
the energy audit, that would be ok. So, they're not really concerned about
conservation.

 

From: WFO Herb [mailto:froggi60 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 8:06 PM
To: Wm. Severin Thompson
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)

 

WST,

 

That's one BIG lake house!

 

My house is 4500 square feet.  Heat, water are both natural gas.  Winter
runs about $150.00.  Home built in '92.

 

In our area in Southern Oregon, from time-to-time, the utility company
offers tax incentives for upgrading older homes.  Not always the full amount
if you hire it done, but should you elect to do it, it most likely will.  

 

Windows help but the biggest savings is insulation.

 

I've had all electric, including heat-pump type and gas is my choice.

 

Herb

On Dec 11, 2007 1:20 PM, Wm. Severin Thompson <wsthompson at thicko.com> wrote:

So, I've got a summer place over at Green Lake. I was built in '59 as a
summer place. never intended as a year 'round home. My folks bought it in 
'68. About 10 years ago, my folks gave it to my siblings and I. That didn't
work out so well, (predicted that) and I bought it from my siblings.



The place has a 220v baseboard heater, and a propane wall furnace. Years 
ago, natural gas was not available there, but within the last few years, it
has become available. I looked into getting natural gas to the house. a
fairly inexpensive installation, as they charge $4 a foot to get it to the 
house, and it's right across the street.



But, here's the kicker. (welcome to Wisco, your idiots in Madison in
action). All homes built before something like 1979 have to have an "energy
audit" before they'll sell natural gas to you. In order to qualify, I'd have
to replace all windows, replace any wall insulation, new doors, insulate the
floor, etc.



So, I could have a 15,000 sq ft home with one person living in it, heated to

80F as long as it meets their energy audit requirements. They're happy to
take that money.but to get natural gas service to extend my lake house
season a month or two, I'll have to drop about $30,000 in the house. 



Arrggghhh





Wm. Severin Thompson

~iii<O

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Tue Dec 11 19:25:47 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:25:47 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
In-Reply-To: <09a701c83c63$2b18e5e0$6401a8c0@Larry>
References: <380-2200712211224225468@earthlink.net>
	<09a701c83c63$2b18e5e0$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <475F46AB.5000805@earthlink.net>

Larry Daniels wrote:  "Can you imagine all of that?"

Whoa, whoa, whoa!   Have a talk with Flounder.  I was just responding to 
his comment, that,"I just don't think the government should be able to 
tell me to do it before a purchase of a widely available product."

But as far as free public schools and reduced in-state tuition for 
college, you would have to take that up with Martin Luther.  And with 
the Puritans who started it in this country!.  Public police, fire, 
roads, etc.?  Those are *communal* efforts that safeguard the 
commonweal, and predate by centuries even the founding of our country.

"Hey, the city I live in plows the snow off the streets....I'll bet it 
doesn't happen by you, does it?"

Absolutely not!  If I want snow cleared off the public street on which I 
live, I gotta get the shovel and do it myself!

Buster

From davriker at nwi.net  Tue Dec 11 20:04:31 2007
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:04:31 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
References: <380-2200712211224225468@earthlink.net><09a701c83c63$2b18e5e0$6401a8c0@Larry>
	<475F46AB.5000805@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <005f01c83c6b$b781bf40$6400a8c0@dave>

And the last time it snowed in Aneheim was???

David Riker
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <b-evans at earthlink.net>
To: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 6:25 PM

> "Hey, the city I live in plows the snow off the streets....I'll bet it 
> doesn't happen by you, does it?"
> 
> Absolutely not!  If I want snow cleared off the public street on which I 
> live, I gotta get the shovel and do it myself!
> 
> Buster
> _______________________________________________
> davriker at nwi.net

From dwramsey at att.net  Tue Dec 11 20:17:49 2007
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:17:49 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
In-Reply-To: <009601c83c40$7bca7b20$735f7160$@com>
Message-ID: <20071212031935.C0FF61879DF@autox.team.net>

Lots of people around here have LNG or Propane and traditional style
furnaces, hot water heaters, stoves, & reefers. Hell some of them even think
they are real people.
		Crash

Well, a couple reasons why I want natural gas...

Propane was about $60 for a 100lb bottle... now it's $220.

Also, I really want to install a traditional style furnace, with a
thermostat, so I can keep the heat in there on to keep the pipes from
freezing during the last month and first month of the extended season.

From dwramsey at att.net  Tue Dec 11 20:24:01 2007
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:24:01 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Driving Schools
In-Reply-To: <20071212005022.XDYC16876.hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
Message-ID: <20071212032529.6342D1879EA@autox.team.net>

A very wise "snake oil" salesman once said that brakes are for stopping and
engines are for going.
		Crash


I tried heel/toe, but my feet are too big to make it fun and comfortable.
Double clutching is great with a car you know.

Careful when you try that in a friend's car that does not know about that
with them in the passenger seat.  It is fun watching them reach for the
fitzle and grab bars.

Chris

From millerls at ado13.com  Tue Dec 11 20:35:01 2007
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:35:01 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
References: <380-2200712211224225468@earthlink.net>
	<09a701c83c63$2b18e5e0$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <011201c83c6f$facffbf0$c90e0618@HP>

ROTFLMAO

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
To: <b-evans at earthlink.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)


> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Robert Bruce Evans" <b-evans at earthlink.net>
> To: "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson at thicko.com>; "derf"
> <derf247 at gmail.com>; "Paul Asgeirsson" <PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net>
> Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 4:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
>
>
> Flounder wrote:  ""I just don't think the government should be able to 
> tell
> me to do it before a purchase of a widely available product."
>
> Ah, but that is the price you pay for living in a state that has
> Wisconsin's long and proud history as the bastion of American socialism.
> In fact, the Socialist Party of Wisconsin was 110 this year, and is older
> than the national party!
>
> Buster Evans
> _______________________________________________
>
> Ahh, Buster, the socialist tendencies never end here in WI, either.  Why, 
> we
> have free public schools through high school and reduced in-state tuition
> for college after that.  Get this, we have public police and fire
> departments and many public hospitals. Would you believe that we have 
> roads
> here that are publicly owned?  Not a privately owned toll road in the 
> whole
> damned state for some lucky capitalist to get rich on.  Shameful.
>
> Did you know that the local fire department operates a bunch of rescue
> squads that respond to all fire calls and ambulance requests?  That puts 
> the
> private fire departments right out of business.  Hey, the city I live in
> plows the snow off the streets instead of hiring private contractors to do
> that.  How can a profiteer make a fortune off of our tax dollars when that
> happens?  As a local businessman, it just pisses me off.  I mean I would 
> be
> more than willing to pay higher taxes so somebody can get rich by 
> profitting
> off of these services.  It's just un-American.
>
> Can you imagine all of that?  I'll bet it doesn't happen by you, does it?

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Tue Dec 11 20:28:42 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:28:42 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
Message-ID: <380-220071231232842421@earthlink.net>

David Riker wrote:  "And the last time it snowed in Aneheim was???"

Hey, Larry didn't ask me *that*!  He just wanted to know if the city I live
in plows the snow off the streets!

And, as a matter of fact, it *does* snow a little  in Anaheim Hills (that's
the hoity-toity section) every year.  And there was a good coating in 1948.
The last time it had "plowable" snow was in November 1928!  And *no*, the
City did not plow the roads!

Buster

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Dec 11 20:40:01 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:40:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
In-Reply-To: <380-220071231232842421@earthlink.net>
References: <380-220071231232842421@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <475F5811.9040909@comcast.net>

Robert Bruce Evans wrote:
> David Riker wrote:  "And the last time it snowed in Aneheim was???"

With Buster living in Anaheim,
That city gets a snow job every day.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 11 21:03:17 2007
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:03:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
In-Reply-To: <380-220071231232842421@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <895428.26640.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- Robert Bruce Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:
> And, as a matter of fact, it *does* snow a little 
> in Anaheim Hills (that's
> the hoity-toity section) every year.

Not in 2006 when I "lived" there. There were fires in
February, though. 

Ron


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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue Dec 11 21:35:45 2007
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:35:45 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
In-Reply-To: <005f01c83c6b$b781bf40$6400a8c0@dave>
Message-ID: <C384A521.132E5%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> snowed in Aneheim
We can see it on the mountain tops. That's good enough.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Dec 11 21:48:09 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:48:09 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Driving Schools
In-Reply-To: <20071212032529.6342D1879EA@autox.team.net>
References: <20071212005022.XDYC16876.hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
	<20071212032529.6342D1879EA@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712112048l4736d8f7hc7df2f89e21e14dc@mail.gmail.com>

True David, but I find it useful in very tight and slow maneuvers to
downshift early so that I can get on the horses quicker. My admittedly limit
track experience (60s - Europe) is that engines last a lot longer than
brakes so where you can slow up with a downshift you are saving some brake
linings providing you have a good clutch.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Dec 11, 2007 9:24 PM, David Ramsey <dwramsey at att.net> wrote:

> A very wise "snake oil" salesman once said that brakes are for stopping
> and
> engines are for going.
>                Crash
>
>
> I tried heel/toe, but my feet are too big to make it fun and comfortable.
> Double clutching is great with a car you know.
>
> Careful when you try that in a friend's car that does not know about that
> with them in the passenger seat.  It is fun watching them reach for the
> fitzle and grab bars.
>
> Chris
> _______________________________________________
> bmwwxman at gmail.com
>
> Edit your replies
>
> http://www.team.net/archive
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets
>



-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Tue Dec 11 21:41:34 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:41:34 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
Message-ID: <380-220071231244134125@earthlink.net>

Ron Soave wrote:  "Not in 2006 when I "lived" there. There were fires in
February, though."

But you were staying in the "lower elevations".  That year (2005/6),
Anaheim Hills had .04 inches of precipitation from snow, which happens to
also be its annual average.  According to the National Weather Service,
that is, and we all know how weathermen lie!  

Anyway, whenever Southern California gets snow like that, or even a little
rain, drivers go berserk and are all elbows and assholes on the streets and
freeways!  It's "bodyshop weather"!  First, nobody out here knows how to
drive in rain, and second, the infrequency of rain lets the oil settle in
the roadway.  When rain does come, the oil which has never had a chance to
wash away, just floats up and makes matters worse.

Buster

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 11 21:54:16 2007
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:54:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
In-Reply-To: <380-220071231244134125@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <722817.16923.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- Robert Bruce Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:
> That year (2005/6),
> Anaheim Hills had .04 inches of precipitation from
> snow, which happens to
> also be its annual average

That's 1/4 of our breaker points gap. Here we call
that "frost", at best ;-)


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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Tue Dec 11 22:45:41 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:45:41 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
Message-ID: <380-220071231254541968@earthlink.net>

Ron Soave wrote:  "That's 1/4 of our breaker points gap. Here we call that
"frost", at best ;-)"

Oh, but in sunny Southern California it is called a blizzard!!!!  People
probably trapped in their homes.  Thousands of people unable to navigate
the roads to work!  Roofs in imminent danger of collapse!  No trifling
matter!!!!

Buster

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Tue Dec 11 18:14:04 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:14:04 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Driving Schools
References: <C38457DD.132B7%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <00a301c83c5c$4a28ba20$0401a8c0@midget>

>>>  I rarely double clutch a shift except in rare situations, but I 
>>> downshift virtually every gear every time.

> Second to first must be exciting.

Billy,
That is the WHOLE POINT to double-declutching. It is used to match rpm of 
the two shafts so that you do not need synchros to shift smoothly. With 
synchros, it is largely ornamental and only done by poseurs or people on 
this list ;-) Agressive race-style double-declutching will wear out your 
gearbox faster than normal driving. I prefer replacing brakes.

My dad always claimed to be able to shift an old non-synchro jeep gearbox 
from first to high and back without a noise from the gearbox. 

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Wed Dec 12 02:29:22 2007
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:29:22 -0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Driving Schools
In-Reply-To: <20071212005022.XDYC16876.hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
Message-ID: <002d01c83ca1$7b3ac730$0201a8c0@Laptop>

I learn't to drive in a car that had no sychromesh
on any gears, and the first 4 cars that I owned
all had no non synchro gears. So I learn't a full
double de-clutch routine.  But I very rarely use
it these days. Even done by well practised drivers
it is just too slow. It has no benefit at all with
a syncho gearbox and is certaiinly not
recommended.
However, one should accurately adjust the revs
part way through the change on a down-shift and
some people mistake this for double de-clutching.
This is far easier with heel-and-toe, but even
this is a bit of a misnomer in a Spridget. The
action is  using the outer edge of the foot (not
one's  heel) on the throttle, whilst breaking with
the ball of the foot.

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From:
spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.t
eam.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk
@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Chris Manuel
Sent: 12 December 2007 00:50
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Driving Schools


>From the BMW circles I belong to, the best way to
put it is "..brakes are
cheaper than clutches, so have fun."

I tried heel/toe, but my feet are too big to make
it fun and comfortable.
Double clutching is great with a car you know.

Careful when you try that in a friend's car that
does not know about that
with them in the passenger seat.  It is fun
watching them reach for the
fitzle and grab bars.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From:
spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.
team.net] On Behalf Of Bud
Pazur
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 3:02 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Driving Schools

What?? Everyone doesn't do this on their
spridgets?  Actually I rarely
>double clutch a shift except in rare situations,
but I downshift virtually
>every gear every time.  Am I wearing out my
clutch and gearbox prematurely?
>Don't bother answering this rhetorical question
because I'll keep doing it
>anyway cause it sounds cool.  Maybe thats why my
brakes last so long.



I've always double clutched on all my driver cars
over these long years.
Maybe that is why I've never replaced a clutch -
even after as much as 160K
miles. I guess I'd rather replace brakes than the
clutch.

Bud Pazur

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From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 12 05:49:41 2007
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 04:49:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Driving Schools
In-Reply-To: <002d01c83ca1$7b3ac730$0201a8c0@Laptop>
Message-ID: <503135.84610.qm@web30509.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- Guy Weller <guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> I learn't to drive in a car that had no sychromesh
> on any gears, and the first 4 cars that I owned
> all had no non synchro gears. 

Doesn't that mean that a properly executed
rev-matching double clutch doesn't "involve" your
synchros and is saving your transmission?

Ron


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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Dec 12 06:41:24 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:41:24 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Driving Schools
In-Reply-To: <503135.84610.qm@web30509.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F220D9953F867817008987FB8650@phx.gbl>

Oh yeah!!  Bring rev-matching into it ...

>--- Guy Weller <guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > I learn't to drive in a car that had no sychromesh
> > on any gears, and the first 4 cars that I owned
> > all had no non synchro gears.

>From: Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
>Doesn't that mean that a properly executed
>rev-matching double clutch doesn't "involve" your
>synchros and is saving your transmission?

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Wed Dec 12 06:54:54 2007
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:54:54 -0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Driving Schools
In-Reply-To: <503135.84610.qm@web30509.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001c01c83cc6$934c4720$0501a8c0@MAIN>

Ron,
That may be true to some extent, but I doubt if many people can do it that
accurately, and it rather then begs the question as to what are the synchro
rings for?

I think it also depends on the type of driving you do. If you potter along
in the sunshine and are never in a hurry, then maybe double de-clutching is
ok. But I use mine as a daily driver and work car. I need to keep up with -
or ahead of, the modern traffic in all sorts of driving conditions. DD
clutching just doesn't come in to it!.  I have just travelled about 160
miles this morning, to attending work meetings in the western Lake District,
including fast dual carriageways, twisty narrow lanes and single track
mountain passes.  And if at every change I de-clutched, moved into neutral,
took my foot off the clutch, blipped the throttle, depressed the clutch
again and then moved into the next gear I would still be 100 miles away!

Guy
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf
Of Ron Soave
Sent: 12 December 2007 12:50
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Driving Schools

--- Guy Weller <guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> I learn't to drive in a car that had no sychromesh
> on any gears, and the first 4 cars that I owned
> all had no non synchro gears.

Doesn't that mean that a properly executed
rev-matching double clutch doesn't "involve" your
synchros and is saving your transmission?

Ron


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From wsthompson at thicko.com  Wed Dec 12 07:00:47 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 08:00:47 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Driving Schools
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F220D9953F867817008987FB8650@phx.gbl>
References: <503135.84610.qm@web30509.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<BAY112-F220D9953F867817008987FB8650@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <01f201c83cc7$6bb7df70$43279e50$@com>

My trial by fire double clutching was about 30 years ago. I was a musician,
worked about 8 hours a week. My landlord had a bus company, and asked if
would drive a coach for him on occasion. There was a lot of rev-matching
going on. My first time in a bus, was a Scenicruiser, or an MC-7... I can't
remember.  I had to parallel park the behemoth on Michigan Ave. in Chicago
in front of the Raddison hotel.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Robert Duquette
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 7:41 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Driving Schools

Oh yeah!!  Bring rev-matching into it ...

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Dec 12 08:01:02 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:01:02 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Driving Schools
In-Reply-To: <001c01c83cc6$934c4720$0501a8c0@MAIN>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F22218537366EE678BE6B05B8650@phx.gbl>

It looks very elegant and impressive though, doesn't it?

I remember my father double clutching in his log truck and he made it look 
like dancing.  ( Waltzing, not R&R. :))  His nickname among his 
co-workers/competitors was "Turtle".

Robert D.



>From: "Guy Weller" <guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk>
>
>Ron,
>That may be true to some extent, but I doubt if many people can do it that
>accurately, and it rather then begs the question as to what are the synchro
>rings for?
>
>I think it also depends on the type of driving you do. If you potter along
>in the sunshine and are never in a hurry, then maybe double de-clutching is
>ok. But I use mine as a daily driver and work car. I need to keep up with -
>or ahead of, the modern traffic in all sorts of driving conditions. DD
>clutching just doesn't come in to it!.  I have just travelled about 160
>miles this morning, to attending work meetings in the western Lake 
>District,
>including fast dual carriageways, twisty narrow lanes and single track
>mountain passes.  And if at every change I de-clutched, moved into neutral,
>took my foot off the clutch, blipped the throttle, depressed the clutch
>again and then moved into the next gear I would still be 100 miles away!
>
>Guy
>-----Original Message-----
>From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
>[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf
>Of Ron Soave
>Sent: 12 December 2007 12:50
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Driving Schools
>
>--- Guy Weller <guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > I learn't to drive in a car that had no sychromesh
> > on any gears, and the first 4 cars that I owned
> > all had no non synchro gears.
>
>Doesn't that mean that a properly executed
>rev-matching double clutch doesn't "involve" your
>synchros and is saving your transmission?
>
>Ron

From John.Deikis at va.gov  Wed Dec 12 08:52:41 2007
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:52:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Driving Schools
In-Reply-To: <200712111728.lBBHS4Ce023350@green.excel.net>
References: <200712111728.lBBHS4Ce023350@green.excel.net>
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA94029214FF@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

About 20 years ago, my family bought me a Skip Barber certificate for my
40th birthday.  At that time, you could do the school in open-wheeled
cars or Bimmer M3's.  I chose the closed car, much to the disgust of my
racing buddies because I figured if I ever DID go racing, I would never
be in the open-wheel league.
Now that I race a Spridget, all I can say is...The cars are quite
similar in that you can't see the wheels from the driver's seat, and the
doors open.
....Wish I had an M3!
JohnD


-----Original Message-----
From: Bud Pazur [mailto:bpazur at excel.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 12:28 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Driving Schools

Bob Van Kirk wrote:

Bud,
  I am concerned that the open wheel experience isn't
that helpful for someone going in to say an MG or
similiar vehicle.  What is your opinion??
Thanks, Bob


Bob -

In some ways you are right. These cars are set up to handle wonderfully,
and
are fairly forgiving to a novice driver. My Spridgets seemed to not be
as
forgiving. But the rear end on these open wheel cars can still come
around
very suddenly- I did about 2 1/2 360s on Turn 8, spun out coming onto
the
short course after Turn 13, almost did on Turn 12, etc.

But the track and driving training is great. You just have to learn how
your
own car handles at speed afterwards.

The real surprise I got in real racing was the corner traffic - Skip
Barber's
insurance doesn't allow any passing in the corners - it's all a fairy
tale
situation driving the line in the corners(except in wet weather, which
we
had, and I'm glad we did, cause my first real race featured rain on the
first
practice day). But in a real race, it seems like you are forced off the
line
a lot in the corners. As Flounder once said, ' I never practice on the
line'.
The corner traffic always unnerved me a bit. I was able to bail out into
the
gravel sometimes. But what an adrenaline rush. One of the best
experiences of
my life. Go for it!


Bud Pazur

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Dec 12 09:23:08 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:23:08 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll stir the pot up (no LBC)
In-Reply-To: <380-220071231244134125@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F342772B427DDCABB3BE5F4B8650@phx.gbl>

It's not too much different here in the land of ice and snow.  If someone 
spits on the street there's mayhem.

Robert D.
Ottawa ON Canada



>Anyway, whenever Southern California gets snow like that, or even a little
>rain, drivers go berserk and are all elbows and assholes on the streets and
>freeways!  It's "bodyshop weather"!  First, nobody out here knows how to
>drive in rain, and second, the infrequency of rain lets the oil settle in
>the roadway.  When rain does come, the oil which has never had a chance to
>wash away, just floats up and makes matters worse.
>
>Buster

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed Dec 12 09:39:01 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:39:01 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] MPG
Message-ID: <00ed01c83cdd$810beae0$6401a8c0@Larry>

A recent study found the average American walks about 900 miles per year.

Another study found Americans drink, on average, 22 gallons of beer a year.

That means, on average, Americans get about 41 miles to the gallon.

Kind of makes you proud to be an American.

From cciaffone at verizon.net  Wed Dec 12 11:03:36 2007
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:03:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Oh Yessss!
Message-ID: <47602278.9090608@verizon.net>

Mid-December, early winter ... Right???

Here I am in a T-shirt, top down, cruising.  No heater needed.

If THIS is winter ... then  Yessss!  Bring it On.

chuck

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Dec 12 11:09:57 2007
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:09:57 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Oh Yessss!
In-Reply-To: <47602278.9090608@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <C38563F5.1331F%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> Here I am in a T-shirt, top down, cruising.  No heater needed.
I'm sitting at my desk in long sleeves and a jacket, and I'm freezing. It's
down in the mid-fifties out here.
BZ

From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net  Wed Dec 12 11:13:49 2007
From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:13:49 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [Spridgets] Triumphs Digest, Vol 1, Issue 402
Message-ID: <1897417.1197483229313.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Dear Listers,
Just got back from a screening of the soon-to-be-realeased Chipmonk film at Fox.  The lead character, Dave, is a somewhat slacker misic writer who lives in a cute little Hollywood bungalow complex, likes the girl next door and drives ............. a tired, but cheerful red TR4 with a primered door ........... kudos ti the studio for not making any British car negative subplots or comments.

Worked for me - film was cute and not as bad as I had imagined. 

Best,

Rick Feibusch
British Car Network
Venice Beach. CA

From derf247 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 12 11:13:56 2007
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:13:56 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Oh Yessss!
In-Reply-To: <47602278.9090608@verizon.net>
References: <47602278.9090608@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910712121013s29e4baedp5c48424e7f62fa4c@mail.gmail.com>

Still hot in the real LA.  Miata's got A/C, though.

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Dec 12 11:21:08 2007
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:21:08 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Oh Yessss!
In-Reply-To: <C38563F5.1331F%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <47602278.9090608@verizon.net>
	<C38563F5.1331F%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090712121021g68ce2b47q31fe68340daf1e84@mail.gmail.com>

upper 30's, rainy, windy, and just a sweatshirt...

On Dec 12, 2007 12:09 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:

> > Here I am in a T-shirt, top down, cruising.  No heater needed.
> I'm sitting at my desk in long sleeves and a jacket, and I'm freezing.
> It's
> down in the mid-fifties out here.
> BZ
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Dec 12 11:28:17 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:28:17 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Oh Yessss!
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090712121021g68ce2b47q31fe68340daf1e84@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F272C2E51739AD8B98496FBB8650@phx.gbl>

Today Sunny with cloudy periods. Wind west 30 km/h becoming light this 
afternoon. Temperature falling to minus 5 this afternoon. Tonight A few 
clouds. Low minus 17. ( in F )

long sleeve shirt with leather jacket.
Subaru has a heater though

Robert D.


>From: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
>
>upper 30's, rainy, windy, and just a sweatshirt...
>
>On Dec 12, 2007 12:09 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:
>
> > > Here I am in a T-shirt, top down, cruising.  No heater needed.
> > I'm sitting at my desk in long sleeves and a jacket, and I'm freezing.
> > It's
> > down in the mid-fifties out here.
> > BZ

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Dec 12 11:29:24 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:29:24 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Oh Yessss!
In-Reply-To: <47602278.9090608@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F21F71B386CDFDF8B47BD4FB8650@phx.gbl>

There's one fan of global warming !  :)

( Technically, it's not winter yet. )

>From: chuck <cciaffone at verizon.net>
>
>Mid-December, early winter ... Right???
>
>Here I am in a T-shirt, top down, cruising.  No heater needed.
>
>If THIS is winter ... then  Yessss!  Bring it On.
>
>chuck

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Wed Dec 12 11:46:44 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:46:44 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Oh Yessss!
Message-ID: <380-2200712312184644281@earthlink.net>

Billy Zoom  wrote:  "I'm sitting at my desk in long sleeves and a jacket,
and I'm freezing. It's down in the mid-fifties out here."

Just be prepared, Billy, the forecast is that it will plunge into the
mid-40's overnight for the rest of the week!  It's the kind of weather that
brings out the best in  a woman!

Buster

From dmg at bossig.com  Wed Dec 12 12:17:01 2007
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:17:01 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Oh Yessss!
In-Reply-To: <C38563F5.1331F%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <47602278.9090608@verizon.net>,
	<C38563F5.1331F%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <475FC32D.20744.BA5877@dmg.bossig.com>

Today's high---- 28.7F
Weather for the next week... snow, freezing rain and freezing fog...
Chains required over several of the mountain passes.
But at least I no longer live in Minnesota   ;-))

On 12 Dec 2007 at 10:09, Billy Zoom wrote:

>> > Here I am in a T-shirt, top down, cruising.  No heater needed.

-
Dave G, KK7SS
'65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 12 12:17:41 2007
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:17:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Oh Yessss!
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090712121021g68ce2b47q31fe68340daf1e84@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <430146.27835.qm@web36810.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

"upper 30's, rainy, windy, and just a sweatshirt..."

Long Island started the day with a morning that would have been great in the Midget (goes without saying the top would be down).  Unfortunately, NYC commuter traffic is not my idea of fun in the LBC.  Haven't been out of the office since arriving, but it's supposed to get really cold by tomorrow morning and stay that way for a while.  This may have been my last chance for a warm drive.  Guess it's time to start the Winter projects for real.
   - David 

       
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From John.Deikis at va.gov  Wed Dec 12 12:34:54 2007
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:34:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Oh Yessss! --It must be winter
In-Reply-To: <380-2200712312184644281@earthlink.net>
References: <380-2200712312184644281@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921502@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

I can tell that winter is near...we are starting to go on endlessly
about plastic helicopters, parallel-parking Sceni-Cruisers, and the
weather.

How about Hilary Clinton?
Your last colonoscopy?
The many uses for frozen barn cats when the microwave is broken?

JohnD


>Just be prepared, Billy, the forecast is that it will plunge into the
>mid-40's overnight for the rest of the week!  It's the kind of weather
that
>brings out the best in  a woman!

>Buster

From RampantNM at aol.com  Wed Dec 12 12:54:34 2007
From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:54:34 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24
Message-ID: <cfb.22eab36e.3491967a@aol.com>

In a message dated 12/11/2007 12:03:06 PM Mountain Standard Time,  
spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes:

There  would be no
way to call it a back seat as it was very thin. I think it was  intended for
a very small person or amputee to sit sideways and  unrestrained as was the
norm in the day as there is no leg room even with  the seats in full forward
position.



Ahhh...even a decent sized college student could fit back there in  1968, and 
three of us drove down from Denton, TX to Ft. Worth to watch my old  high 
school play football, in my 65 Midget.
 
Regards,

Robert B. Houston

74.5 MGBGT
73 MG  Midget

As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual  Skinners Union
carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet  pleasingly formed, 
perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for  experienced hands, 
the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be  inspected and 
adjusted as
described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop  manual.




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From cciaffone at verizon.net  Wed Dec 12 12:54:18 2007
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:54:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Oh Yessss!
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F21F71B386CDFDF8B47BD4FB8650@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-F21F71B386CDFDF8B47BD4FB8650@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <47603C6A.6000600@verizon.net>

Less a fan, and more resigned to it. If those who control
our destinies refuse to do anything for reasons of profit,
what can a lone retiree do??

chuck

Robert Duquette wrote:
> There's one fan of global warming !  :)
>
> ( Technically, it's not winter yet. )

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Dec 12 12:57:13 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:57:13 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Oh Yessss!
In-Reply-To: <430146.27835.qm@web36810.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <e98d88090712121021g68ce2b47q31fe68340daf1e84@mail.gmail.com>
	<430146.27835.qm@web36810.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712121157mb8b5b2cw29eb0771a1704541@mail.gmail.com>

Kansas.   Need I say more?   Ice all over everything. Powerlines and trees
down eveywhere. Presently 26F with light snow. When skies clear tonight
we'll bottom out around 15F.  Oh....  Wind Chill is currently 9F.  You can
take your T-shirt weather and.......... <grump!>
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Dec 12 13:00:13 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:00:13 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Oh Yessss! --It must be winter
In-Reply-To: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921502@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
References: <380-2200712312184644281@earthlink.net>
	<E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921502@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712121200h3cb7f000o3db209f18ad38ed7@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/12/07, Deikis, John G <John.Deikis at va.gov> wrote:
>
> Your last colonoscopy?


Let's not start trashing the Republicans....   ;-)

From RampantNM at aol.com  Wed Dec 12 13:09:06 2007
From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:09:06 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Snow Plow
Message-ID: <bea.1fd449e7.349199e2@aol.com>

In a message dated 12/12/2007 6:55:49 AM Mountain Standard Time,  
spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes:

I gotta  get the shovel and do it myself!

Buster





Must of been a hell of a salesman to sell Buster a snow shovel in  Anaheim....
 
Regards,

Robert B. Houston

74.5 MGBGT
73 MG  Midget

As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual  Skinners Union
carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet  pleasingly formed, 
perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for  experienced hands, 
the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be  inspected and 
adjusted as
described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop  manual.




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From RampantNM at aol.com  Wed Dec 12 13:15:13 2007
From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:15:13 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Double Clutching...
Message-ID: <d3c.1bbc14cb.34919b51@aol.com>

In a message dated 12/12/2007 6:55:49 AM Mountain Standard Time,  
spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes:

My dad  always claimed to be able to shift an old non-synchro jeep gearbox 
from  first to high and back without a noise from the gearbox.  



He probably didn't use the clutch at all....a technique I learned on 10  
speed trucks in the 70's.  Learned to double clutch too, but for normal  
acceleration through the gears, no clutch at all after start up.

 
Regards,

Robert B. Houston

74.5 MGBGT
73 MG  Midget

As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual  Skinners Union
carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet  pleasingly formed, 
perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for  experienced hands, 
the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be  inspected and 
adjusted as
described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop  manual.




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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Dec 12 13:17:30 2007
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:17:30 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24
In-Reply-To: <cfb.22eab36e.3491967a@aol.com>
References: <cfb.22eab36e.3491967a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090712121217v36acccbby364eef98ec2ec06c@mail.gmail.com>

One night, my wife and I were in Cleburne, drinking buttery nipples at a
party. We ran out of the "butter" and needed to make a run to Acton (the
nearest place for liquor). Three of us loaded up in the 65 Midget, and
headed out. All back roads, nice twisties, and some hills to make it a bit
more fun. We get to the store, get our supplies, and then I go out to top
off the oil (it pours out at speed). As we are walking outside, an older
gentleman in a Ford, pulls up, and just sits there. I get the levels
correct, put the empties in the boot, and secure the bonnet. I walk over to
the Ford, believing it to be dead; as is their nature, and as the man if he
needs any help. He smiles and said "No, I just wanted to see how all three
of you fit in that thing" so we loaded up, waved, and drove away.
The rest of the evening is a bit of a blur.......

On Dec 12, 2007 1:54 PM, <RampantNM at aol.com> wrote:

> In a message dated 12/11/2007 12:03:06 PM Mountain Standard Time,
> spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes:
>
> There  would be no
> way to call it a back seat as it was very thin. I think it was  intended
> for
> a very small person or amputee to sit sideways and  unrestrained as was
> the
> norm in the day as there is no leg room even with  the seats in full
> forward
> position.
>
>
>
> Ahhh...even a decent sized college student could fit back there in  1968,
> and
> three of us drove down from Denton, TX to Ft. Worth to watch my old  high
> school play football, in my 65 Midget.
>
> Regards,
>
> Robert B. Houston
>
> 74.5 MGBGT
> 73 MG  Midget
>
> As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual  Skinners Union
> carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet  pleasingly formed,
> perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for  experienced
> hands,
> the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be  inspected and
> adjusted as
> described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop  manual.
>
>
>
>
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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Wed Dec 12 13:15:50 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:15:50 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Snow Plow
Message-ID: <380-2200712312201550734@earthlink.net>

Robert Houston wrote:  "Must of been a hell of a salesman to sell Buster a
snow shovel in  Anaheim...."

Aw, a shovel is a shovel is a shovel!

All seriousness aside, I don't *do* snow no mo'!  I've lived in it, I've
shoveled it, I've had frozen pipes, I've had chains, I've been snowbound in
a mountain cabin, and I have driven the Sprite through a howling blizzard
so bad I had to stop every few minutes to clear the snow from the
windshield.  Now, I thoroughly enjoy the snow.  On the far and distant
mountains.  Knowing I can visit it, but it won't visit me!!!!

Buster

From hal at katemuir.com  Wed Dec 12 12:30:05 2007
From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:30:05 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Snow Plow
In-Reply-To: <bea.1fd449e7.349199e2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFEEBBFHAA.hal@katemuir.com>

"Must of been a hell of a salesman to sell Buster a snow shovel in
Anaheim...."


That shovel can be used for other  things as well....
Very useful on this list :)
Hal

From cciaffone at verizon.net  Wed Dec 12 13:54:49 2007
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:54:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Oh Yessss! --It must be winter
In-Reply-To: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921502@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
References: <380-2200712312184644281@earthlink.net>
	<E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921502@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
Message-ID: <47604A99.8060206@verizon.net>

Deikis, John G wrote:
> I can tell that winter is near...we are starting to go on endlessly
> about plastic helicopters, parallel-parking Sceni-Cruisers, and the
> weather.
>
>   
A Big NOPE to that!

Here in North Carolina it's still top-down Spridget weather. Topped off
the SUs and the clutch fluid and off I went. Gonna be chillier
tomorrow, but still Spridget weather.

BTW - WD-40'd starter bendix is still working great!

chuck

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Wed Dec 12 14:22:16 2007
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:22:16 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Oh Yessss!
References: <BAY112-F21F71B386CDFDF8B47BD4FB8650@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <004401c83d05$121d9ac0$c7a1bf46@personal>

77 here in north Florida. Did the final tweking on the carbs then went for a 
nice drive.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Duquette" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Oh Yessss!


> There's one fan of global warming !  :)
>
> ( Technically, it's not winter yet. )
>
>>From: chuck <cciaffone at verizon.net>
>>
>>Mid-December, early winter ... Right???
>>
>>Here I am in a T-shirt, top down, cruising.  No heater needed.
>>
>>If THIS is winter ... then  Yessss!  Bring it On.
>>
>>chuck
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From pvanwig at charter.net  Wed Dec 12 15:01:36 2007
From: pvanwig at charter.net (Paul Van Wig)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:01:36 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090712121217v36acccbby364eef98ec2ec06c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cfb.22eab36e.3491967a@aol.com>
	<e98d88090712121217v36acccbby364eef98ec2ec06c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <020401c83d0a$91109710$9a00a8c0@PaulsTOSHIBA>

Got 5 in my 65 Sprite with the top up (had to put the top up so as not to be
noticed by the cops) 1 behind the seat girlfriend on my lap (She had to
shift) and 2 in the passenger seat only about five miles.

Paul Van Wig
pvanwig at charter.net 

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+pvanwig=charter.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+pvanwig=charter.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Brad Fornal
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 12:18 PM
To: RampantNM at aol.com
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24

One night, my wife and I were in Cleburne, drinking buttery nipples at a
party. We ran out of the "butter" and needed to make a run to Acton (the
nearest place for liquor). Three of us loaded up in the 65 Midget, and
headed out. All back roads, nice twisties, and some hills to make it a bit
more fun. We get to the store, get our supplies, and then I go out to top
off the oil (it pours out at speed). As we are walking outside, an older
gentleman in a Ford, pulls up, and just sits there. I get the levels
correct, put the empties in the boot, and secure the bonnet. I walk over to
the Ford, believing it to be dead; as is their nature, and as the man if he
needs any help. He smiles and said "No, I just wanted to see how all three
of you fit in that thing" so we loaded up, waved, and drove away.
The rest of the evening is a bit of a blur.......

On Dec 12, 2007 1:54 PM, <RampantNM at aol.com> wrote:

> In a message dated 12/11/2007 12:03:06 PM Mountain Standard Time,
> spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes:
>
> There  would be no
> way to call it a back seat as it was very thin. I think it was  intended
> for
> a very small person or amputee to sit sideways and  unrestrained as was
> the
> norm in the day as there is no leg room even with  the seats in full
> forward
> position.
>
>
>
> Ahhh...even a decent sized college student could fit back there in  1968,
> and
> three of us drove down from Denton, TX to Ft. Worth to watch my old  high
> school play football, in my 65 Midget.
>
> Regards,
>
> Robert B. Houston
>
> 74.5 MGBGT
> 73 MG  Midget
>
> As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual  Skinners Union
> carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet  pleasingly formed,
> perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for  experienced
> hands,
> the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be  inspected and
> adjusted as
> described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop  manual.
>
>
>
>
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Dec 12 15:58:19 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:58:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Oh Yessss!
In-Reply-To: <380-2200712312184644281@earthlink.net>
References: <380-2200712312184644281@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4760678B.9060809@comcast.net>

Robert Bruce Evans wrote:
> Billy Zoom  wrote:  "I'm sitting at my desk in long sleeves and a jacket,
> and I'm freezing. It's down in the mid-fifties out here."
> 
> Just be prepared, Billy, the forecast is that it will plunge into the
> mid-40's overnight for the rest of the week!  It's the kind of weather that
> brings out the best in  a woman!


So why is "mid 50s" long sleeve and jackets in So Cal but where men are 
men in Joisey, mid 50s is tee shirt weather?
40s is long sleeves, 30s is sweatshirt, low 20s is jacket and top up 
weather.



-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Dec 12 16:01:45 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:01:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24
In-Reply-To: <020401c83d0a$91109710$9a00a8c0@PaulsTOSHIBA>
References: <cfb.22eab36e.3491967a@aol.com>
	<e98d88090712121217v36acccbby364eef98ec2ec06c@mail.gmail.com>
	<020401c83d0a$91109710$9a00a8c0@PaulsTOSHIBA>
Message-ID: <47606859.2030905@comcast.net>

Paul Van Wig wrote:
> Got 5 in my 65 Sprite with the top up 

I had 7 in my first 67 Sprite, top up and we went bowling.
You should have seen the look on peoples faces as we piled out.
It took 3 to drive, I worked the pedals, the girl on my lap steered, the 
guy on the tunnel shifted.
2 seats, 2 laps, 1 tunnel, and 2 in the back.



-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Wed Dec 12 16:10:17 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:10:17 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24
In-Reply-To: <47606859.2030905@comcast.net>
References: <cfb.22eab36e.3491967a@aol.com>
	<e98d88090712121217v36acccbby364eef98ec2ec06c@mail.gmail.com>
	<020401c83d0a$91109710$9a00a8c0@PaulsTOSHIBA>
	<47606859.2030905@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <040101c83d14$2b07a260$8116e720$@com>

I believe you neglected to mention the 5 gallon vat of "bah bah lube" and
the shoehorn.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Frank Clarici


I had 7 in my first 67 Sprite, top up and we went bowling.
You should have seen the look on peoples faces as we piled out.
It took 3 to drive, I worked the pedals, the girl on my lap steered, the 
guy on the tunnel shifted.
2 seats, 2 laps, 1 tunnel, and 2 in the back.



-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Dec 12 16:19:29 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:19:29 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Oh Yessss!
In-Reply-To: <4760678B.9060809@comcast.net>
References: <380-2200712312184644281@earthlink.net>
	<4760678B.9060809@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712121519x30810899m9f6adac3fa5c92e1@mail.gmail.com>

Yup.  That's Joisey!  Where the men are men and the sheep are nervous!
Cheers!!
Jim

On 12/12/07, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Robert Bruce Evans wrote:
> > Billy Zoom  wrote:  "I'm sitting at my desk in long sleeves and a
> jacket,
> > and I'm freezing. It's down in the mid-fifties out here."
> >
> > Just be prepared, Billy, the forecast is that it will plunge into the
> > mid-40's overnight for the rest of the week!  It's the kind of weather
> that
> > brings out the best in  a woman!
>
>
> So why is "mid 50s" long sleeve and jackets in So Cal but where men are
> men in Joisey, mid 50s is tee shirt weather?
> 40s is long sleeves, 30s is sweatshirt, low 20s is jacket and top up
> weather.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Dec 12 16:22:31 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:22:31 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24
In-Reply-To: <040101c83d14$2b07a260$8116e720$@com>
References: <cfb.22eab36e.3491967a@aol.com>
	<e98d88090712121217v36acccbby364eef98ec2ec06c@mail.gmail.com>
	<020401c83d0a$91109710$9a00a8c0@PaulsTOSHIBA>
	<47606859.2030905@comcast.net> <040101c83d14$2b07a260$8116e720$@com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712121522x81ec089o4f1da296fbef3a25@mail.gmail.com>

Bowling?  7 people in a spridget??  Where the hell did you put your balls??
Jim

On 12/12/07, Wm. Severin Thompson <wsthompson at thicko.com> wrote:
>
> I believe you neglected to mention the 5 gallon vat of "bah bah lube" and
> the shoehorn.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
> Of
> Frank Clarici
>
>
> I had 7 in my first 67 Sprite, top up and we went bowling.
> You should have seen the look on peoples faces as we piled out.
> It took 3 to drive, I worked the pedals, the girl on my lap steered, the
> guy on the tunnel shifted.
> 2 seats, 2 laps, 1 tunnel, and 2 in the back.

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Wed Dec 12 16:31:55 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:31:55 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Oh Yessss!
Message-ID: <380-2200712312233155171@earthlink.net>

Frank Clarici wrote:  "So why is "mid 50s" long sleeve and jackets in So
Cal but where men are men in Joisey, mid 50s is tee shirt weather?  40s is
long sleeves, 30s is sweatshirt, low 20s is jacket and top up weather."

I dunno, but I am still in shorts and t-shirt.  I am not about to go out
and buy a pair of long trousers until its closer to 0F.  We went up to
Provo, Utah, to visit my grandson at Thanksgiving.  We were up in the
mountains, and it was only 25, but he was all bundled up when Pam took our
photo...yes, with me in shorts and t-shirt.  Hey, that's what keeps the
blood moving and my reputation in tack.

Buster. 

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 12 17:00:49 2007
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:00:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24
In-Reply-To: <47606859.2030905@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <347027.7693.qm@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
> I had 7 in my first 67 Sprite, 

I had 6 in my 1st MGB. I got handcuffed by a cop, 1st
and only time ever. Later 3 of the girls used
handcuffs on each other, but that's a whole 'nother
story. The 80s WERE good for a few things.

Ron


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From dwramsey at att.net  Wed Dec 12 17:08:22 2007
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:08:22 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Driving Schools
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F22218537366EE678BE6B05B8650@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20071213000909.424C91879ED@autox.team.net>

I drove a truck with a "Brownie" gear box, double clutch, double shift,
steer with your knee, you got to love a Road Ranger, no clutch at all.
Still a well done double clutch downshift into first with a smoothcase is
pure art.
		Crash 

I remember my father double clutching in his log truck and he made it look 
like dancing.  ( Waltzing, not R&R. :))  His nickname among his 
co-workers/competitors was "Turtle".

Robert D.

From dwramsey at att.net  Wed Dec 12 17:15:43 2007
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:15:43 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24
In-Reply-To: <47606859.2030905@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20071213001629.B39FB187A50@autox.team.net>

You got pictures?
		Crash

Paul Van Wig wrote:
> Got 5 in my 65 Sprite with the top up 

I had 7 in my first 67 Sprite, top up and we went bowling.
You should have seen the look on peoples faces as we piled out.
It took 3 to drive, I worked the pedals, the girl on my lap steered, the 
guy on the tunnel shifted.
2 seats, 2 laps, 1 tunnel, and 2 in the back.



-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net  Wed Dec 12 17:23:35 2007
From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:23:35 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] [morris_motors] Morris/Datsun 310
References: <AOEILLOJIIDDCMEDMCJACENADBAA.crowen57@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002501c83d1e$6864aa40$f675fea9@p0k7l8>

This car was built by Peter Portugal, an incredibly talented car builder.
When I get a chance later tonight or tomorrow, I'll give the history of these
2 cars as I know it.  I

If I'd known this front drive 6 passenger Morris Minor with rumble seat was
for sale, BOY!  Would I have snapped it up!  This is a treasure from a man who
can really do cars.  Alan, wanna sell it?

In the meantime, take a look at these sites, they'll blow you away!!

 www.wildhorses.com/car/

http://peterportugal.com/

http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/bodyDesigner.aspx?bdID=92&carID=9162

https://latc.com/2006/07/05/special_sect/special_sect2.html

He makes some of us mortals look pretty anemic as far as car design and
modifications go.

Paul A

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Carl Owen
  To: morris_motors at yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 3:54 PM
  Subject: RE: [morris_motors] Morris/Datsun 310



  It sure looks better than the old 310/F-10 Datsuns!



  Carl

  Southeast Texas



  -----Original Message-----
  From: morris_motors at yahoogroups.com [mailto:morris_motors at yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Alan Grossman
  Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 4:21 PM
  To: morris_motors at yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [morris_motors] Morris/Datsun 310



  Hi,
  Wondering if anyone, especially PA knows anything about a Morris Tourer I
  bought while ago. It was in Eureka, CA. I made the peurchase sight unseen,
  and the seller who knew nothing about MM did say it had a Datsun Engine.

  Imagine my surprise to find a transverse front wheel drive powertrain! The
  Morris body has been grafted to an entire Datsun chassis. The only orig
  parts are body parts. Has the trunk lid reverse hinged too, maybe the
  builder was planning on a rumble seat?

  Just curious if anyone knows more about this car. Currently maroon with
  black wings.

  Pic, attached, don't know if it will work.

  Cheers, Alan


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From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Wed Dec 12 17:22:20 2007
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:22:20 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Oh Yessss!
Message-ID: <0dc401c83d1e$39c76060$0d6a010a@mail2world.com>

Ah, so you've been out to Hunterdon County! (That'd be right across the
river from PA).
 
Not sure there are too many sheep down the shore....
 
-=Chris

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Jim Johnson [bmwwxman at gmail.com]
Sent: 12/12/2007 6:23:29 PM
To: 
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Oh Yessss! 

Yup. That's Joisey! Where the men are men and the sheep are nervous! 
Cheers!! 
Jim . 

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed Dec 12 12:11:00 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:11:00 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Driving Schools
References: <200712111728.lBBHS4Ce023350@green.excel.net>
	<E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA94029214FF@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
Message-ID: <012301c83cf2$bbf61d00$0401a8c0@midget>

> Now that I race a Spridget, all I can say is...The cars are quite
> similar in that you can't see the wheels from the driver's seat, and the
> doors open.
> ....Wish I had an M3!

You used to have a Honda-3... Shoulda kept it ;-)

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Dec 12 17:24:36 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:24:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24
Message-ID: <47607BC4.8040405@comcast.net>

David Ramsey wrote:
> You got pictures?

I wish I did.
That was way back when the only camers I had was a Polaroid Swinger


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Dec 12 17:25:37 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:25:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Oh Yessss!
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0712121519x30810899m9f6adac3fa5c92e1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <380-2200712312184644281@earthlink.net>
	<4760678B.9060809@comcast.net>
	<43840a7e0712121519x30810899m9f6adac3fa5c92e1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47607C01.2020701@comcast.net>

Jim Johnson wrote:
> Yup.  That's Joisey!  Where the men are men and the sheep are nervous!

The sheep have overcome their nervousness.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From cciaffone at verizon.net  Wed Dec 12 17:38:57 2007
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:38:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Oh Yessss!
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0712121519x30810899m9f6adac3fa5c92e1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <380-2200712312184644281@earthlink.net>
	<4760678B.9060809@comcast.net>
	<43840a7e0712121519x30810899m9f6adac3fa5c92e1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47607F21.40900@verizon.net>

No no no ... how it goes is:

Where the men are men and sheep are SCARED!

chuck


Jim Johnson wrote:
> Yup.  That's Joisey!  Where the men are men and the sheep are nervous!
> Cheers!!
> Jim

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Wed Dec 12 18:03:06 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:03:06 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24
Message-ID: <380-2200712413136703@earthlink.net>

Frank Clarici  "That was way back when the only camers I had was a Polaroid
Swinger"

Swinger?  Dreamer!  (Does Diane know?)

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 12 18:12:32 2007
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:12:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Oh Yessss!
In-Reply-To: <47607F21.40900@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <467457.85958.qm@web30515.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- chuck <cciaffone at verizon.net> wrote:
> No no no ... how it goes is:
> Where the men are men and sheep are SCARED!

Actually, it's: 

"Where the men are men, the women are men, and the
sheep are scared."


Ron


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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Wed Dec 12 18:12:57 2007
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:12:57 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: The SU Carburetter Company - Free Metering
 Needle(s) with every SU service and rebuild order kit]
Message-ID: <47608719.4030007@wi.net>

Anyone else get this?  I order parts from Burlen occasionally and just 
wondered if anyone else got this notice.  There great to deal with; at 
least in my experience.  I was hoping for a free rebuild kit!
Dave
59 :{)
59 MGA 1500
05 MCS
Burlington WI

SU wrote:

Dear Sir/Madam,

 From the 1st of December 2007 we are offering all of our customers a 
free metering needle(s) with every SU service kit and rebuild kit 
ordered via the Burlen Fuel Systems website at _www.burlen.co.uk_ 
<outbind://62/www.burlen.co.uk>.

You can take you pick from our huge range of needles to pick the best 
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From cciaffone at verizon.net  Wed Dec 12 18:22:26 2007
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:22:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Oh Yessss!
In-Reply-To: <467457.85958.qm@web30515.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <467457.85958.qm@web30515.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <47608952.7010000@verizon.net>

Ah yess ... Scotland the Brave!

Ron Soave wrote:
> Actually, it's: 
>
> "Where the men are men, the women are men, and the
> sheep are scared."
>
>
> Ron

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Wed Dec 12 16:34:28 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:34:28 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Oh Yessss!
Message-ID: <380-220071231223342846@earthlink.net>

From: Jim Johnson wrote:  "Yup.  That's Joisey!  Where the men are men and
the sheep are nervous!"

And the men all wear Velcro belt buckles

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 12 22:10:48 2007
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:10:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Vote vot e vote!!!!!!!!!!!
Message-ID: <267072.19636.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Just a gentle reminder to vote for the BusterCluster
car as your favorite reader restoration article of the
year in Practical Classics Magazine.

To: <pc.competitionemap.com>
Subject: Favorite Reader-Restoration

Text: 1960 BusterCluster Austin-Healey Sprite

Proceeds go to the Sprite 50th Lake of the Ozarks
gathering!!!

Ron


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From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 12 22:11:03 2007
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:11:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24
In-Reply-To: <47606859.2030905@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <16378.3488.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Frank,
   
  7 - Now That is Cozy..............LOL
   
  Vigil


Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
  Paul Van Wig wrote:
> Got 5 in my 65 Sprite with the top up 

I had 7 in my first 67 Sprite, top up and we went bowling.
You should have seen the look on peoples faces as we piled out.
It took 3 to drive, I worked the pedals, the girl on my lap steered, the 
guy on the tunnel shifted.
2 seats, 2 laps, 1 tunnel, and 2 in the back.



-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
_______________________________________________
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 12 22:17:54 2007
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:17:54 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] READ ME!!! Wrong address!!! (Re: Vote vot e
	vote!!!!!!!!!!!
Message-ID: <284331.21190.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Wrong address!!! it's pc.competition at emap.com 

I forgot the "@" symbol


--- Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Just a gentle reminder to vote for the BusterCluster
> car as your favorite reader restoration article of
> the
> year in Practical Classics Magazine.
> 
> To: <pc.competitionemap.com>
> Subject: Favorite Reader-Restoration
> 
> Text: 1960 BusterCluster Austin-Healey Sprite
> 
> Proceeds go to the Sprite 50th Lake of the Ozarks
> gathering!!!
> 
> Ron
> 
> 
>      
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From Mjsprite at aol.com  Wed Dec 12 22:36:03 2007
From: Mjsprite at aol.com (Mjsprite at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:36:03 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Driving Schools
Message-ID: <bdb.1f14dd1b.34921ec3@aol.com>

When I'm getting going in my Sprite I shift like Ronnie Sox did in his old  
Pro Stock. Barely let off the gas (just so the engine doesn't blow if you miss  
the shift - no rev limiter) and push the clutch in just enough to slam into 
the  next gear.  It has to be orchestrated very closely. Almost as fast as an  
automatic. Clutch is 9 years old and tranny is original. Not a daily driver  
though. I downshift almost as hard except, of course, to first.
Mike
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From motorchef at comcast.net  Thu Dec 13 05:02:33 2007
From: motorchef at comcast.net (Joe)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:02:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Get me off this list
Message-ID: <003401c83d80$0ceb13e0$26c13ba0$@net>

The mail coming in here is crazy! How do I stop this? Help!

 

Joe Kerick

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Thu Dec 13 09:06:11 2007
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:06:11 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] No List Content
Message-ID: <e98d88090712130806l69a39475l2a88abbbd6cf1415@mail.gmail.com>

Last month, I had the pleasure of seeing three GREAT bands perform in
Denton, Tx.
One of these bands, The Band of Heathens, is now offering up their
first DVD. Titled "Live at Antone's" this follow up to their award
winning "Live at Momos" CD, will introduce you to the visual power of
their live show.
Back on June 1st, Martha and I loaded up the tequila bar and headed to
Austin, soon the be the next "music capital of the nation". As
mentioned, The Heathens had garnered no less than 17 awards earlier
this year, at the SXSW music festival held annually in Austin. But
this evening was to be different, this was the documentation of their
live show. Mike Graziano and Greg Gowins from the Spridget list, as
well as Mr Clem and Nora Lee from the Slobberbone/Drams list were also
in attendance. They, hopefully, will attest to how great the music was
that night. For those that did miss it, this DVD will put you right up
front for this amazing night of music. Once you realize you can't sit
in front of the television forever, be comforted with the audio CD
that is also included in this DVD set. This contains 15 of the 17
songs performed that night. Now you can enjoy this handmade music
everywhere you go. There is a sale going on prior to Christmas, with
the set costing a mere $20. After the holidays though, the cost will
rise to $25, so get this bargain while you can.
http://www.theconnextion.com/bandofheathens_index.cfm
A great companion to this DVD set, would be the "Live at Momos" CD.
Their sound has been compared to The Subdudes, and their covers of
songs from The Band and Tom Waits has really shown the range of sound
this band is capable of. For sound bites
http://www.thisistexasmusic.com/reviews/livefrommomos.html
Or if that just isn't enough, four full songs, showing how well they
meld live, can be heard here
http://www.bandofheathens.com/
or here
http://www.myspace.com/thebandofheathens
their myspace page has a live song from a different venue.
For you Trucker fans waiting on Brighter than Creations Dark, and you
Drams fans waiting for whatever Brent and the boys have for us, this
will hold you over. It is my belief, and hopefully those that were at
the Nov party will attest, this will hold you very well.
For you car folk out there, this is some fine wrench turning music. I
think most all of us have a stereo in the garage to cover our cussing
out our most prized possessions from time to time.
Look for it, ask for it, fine hand crafted music, straight outta Texas.

Thanks for reading this far,

Brad

OH, I also have several poorly shot video clips of the Heathens on my
myspace video page.

-- 
www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU  Thu Dec 13 12:35:50 2007
From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:35:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Music to wrench by...
In-Reply-To: <mailman.38342.1197562019.12556.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.38342.1197562019.12556.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <4163C947-005C-4E20-9AD4-8B4BC98F47C7@dartmouth.edu>

I recently discovered some decent music by:
	Thee Headcoats
	Holly Golightly
	Boss Martians
	The Surf Trio

and for those who like a good bit of guitar: Wes Montgomery

Weather content: Cold and snowing

LBC content: one month into winter and one flat tire...

-m

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Dec 13 14:09:15 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:09:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24
In-Reply-To: <347027.7693.qm@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <47606859.2030905@comcast.net>
	<347027.7693.qm@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP04EF66F65FF388E91D2A80B8660@CEZ.ICE>

I had 7 in my '76 MGB; top down and I got pulled over ...

Some of the people in my car were razzing some girls in a car travelling
beside us.  If they hadn't turned around and come back, I think we were in
trouble.  But, they came back and said something to the effect of "I hope we
didn't get them in trouble!"  The cop looked at the car and said that 3 had
to get out and walk or he would give all of us a ride.  We were 3 blocks
from my place at that point.

Robert D.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Soave

--- Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
> I had 7 in my first 67 Sprite, 

I had 6 in my 1st MGB. I got handcuffed by a cop, 1st
and only time ever. Later 3 of the girls used
handcuffs on each other, but that's a whole 'nother
story. The 80s WERE good for a few things.

Ron

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Dec 13 14:11:26 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:11:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Oh Yessss!
In-Reply-To: <380-2200712312233155171@earthlink.net>
References: <380-2200712312233155171@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP023ECE6BAA9CCD1A753F42B8660@CEZ.ICE>

When things start to shrink, then it's time to dress warmer, or the
reputation may suffer.

-----Original Message-----
From: with me in shorts and t-shirt.  Hey, that's what keeps the
blood moving and my reputation in tack.

Buster. 

From RampantNM at aol.com  Thu Dec 13 16:03:25 2007
From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:03:25 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Bowling
Message-ID: <c59.1fe330f8.3493143d@aol.com>

In a message dated 12/12/2007 4:23:48 PM Mountain Standard Time,  
spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes:

Bowling?  7 people in a spridget??  Where the hell did you  put your balls??
Jim






He told you, one pair in the seat, one pair on the hump, and two pair  in the 
back....
 
Regards,

Robert B. Houston

74.5 MGBGT
73 MG  Midget

As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual  Skinners Union
carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet  pleasingly formed, 
perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for  experienced hands, 
the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be  inspected and 
adjusted as
described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop  manual.




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From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Thu Dec 13 18:33:30 2007
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:33:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24
In-Reply-To: <47606859.2030905@comcast.net>
References: <cfb.22eab36e.3491967a@aol.com>
	<e98d88090712121217v36acccbby364eef98ec2ec06c@mail.gmail.com>
	<020401c83d0a$91109710$9a00a8c0@PaulsTOSHIBA>
	<47606859.2030905@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <DACD0FE1-0D77-49F2-AE63-29096D833B60@phillymgclub.com>

Wimp,

I had 9 in a 76 Midget, and picnic stuff. Drove across town to the  
local picnic spot and had a picnic. With BBQ and beer. Then loaded all  
up and drove home. On the other side of the coin, one was my ex at  
4'10" 90 lbs and another my daughter at 5 yrs old. But there was some  
confusion on who was supposed to shift. Top down.

I have a pic someplace. If I find it (I think it is in a box my ex  
took, which is now in my daughters basement), I'll post it someplace.

Larry

On Dec 12, 2007, at 6:01 PM, Frank Clarici wrote:

> Paul Van Wig wrote:
>> Got 5 in my 65 Sprite with the top up
>
> I had 7 in my first 67 Sprite, top up and we went bowling.
> You should have seen the look on peoples faces as we piled out.
> It took 3 to drive, I worked the pedals, the girl on my lap steered,  
> the
> guy on the tunnel shifted.
> 2 seats, 2 laps, 1 tunnel, and 2 in the back.
>
>
>
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> _______________________________________________
> lmacy at phillymgclub.com
>
> Edit your replies
>
> http://www.team.net/archive
>
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-- 

Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Declare your Independence, Bring your MG to MG 2008
Valley Forge, PA June 26-29, 2008
http://mg2008.com

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Board Member at Large
Philadelphia MG Club


"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of  
arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in  
sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally  
worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!".

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Thu Dec 13 18:40:38 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:40:38 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24
References: <cfb.22eab36e.3491967a@aol.com><e98d88090712121217v36acccbby364eef98ec2ec06c@mail.gmail.com><020401c83d0a$91109710$9a00a8c0@PaulsTOSHIBA><47606859.2030905@comcast.net>
	<DACD0FE1-0D77-49F2-AE63-29096D833B60@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <001c01c83df2$548b1480$0401a8c0@midget>

>>> Got 5 in my 65 Sprite with the top up

>> I had 7 in my first 67 Sprite, top up and we went bowling.
>> It took 3 to drive, I worked the pedals, the girl on my lap steered,
>> the guy on the tunnel shifted.
>> 2 seats, 2 laps, 1 tunnel, and 2 in the back.

> I had 9 in a 76 Midget, and picnic stuff. Drove across town to the
> local picnic spot and had a picnic. With BBQ and beer. Then loaded all
> up and drove home.

This is starting to sound like a re-make of the Monty Python routine about 
the Yorkshiremen.. Aye,we dreamed of driving crosstown with only nine of us 
in a Midget. Luxury! We had to put all 25 of us into one Fiat Topolino with 
flat tires! 

From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 13 19:10:59 2007
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:10:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24
In-Reply-To: <001c01c83df2$548b1480$0401a8c0@midget>
Message-ID: <235948.12369.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com> wrote:
> the Yorkshiremen.. Aye,we dreamed of driving
> crosstown with only nine of us 
> in a Midget. Luxury! We had to put all 25 of us into
> one Fiat Topolino with 
> flat tires

At least you had tires. Every night me Dad would come
home, murder us in cold blood, ball us up, use us for
tires on the car, and dance about the Topolino singing
"Glory Hallelujah"!

Tell kids that today and the won't believe ya.

Ron


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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Thu Dec 13 19:27:58 2007
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:27:58 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24
In-Reply-To: <235948.12369.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C3872A2E.1339D%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> At least you had tires. Every night me Dad would come
> home, murder us in cold blood, ball us up, use us for
> tires on the car, and dance about the Topolino singing
> "Glory Hallelujah"!
> 
> Tell kids that today and the won't believe ya.
At least you had a dad. We had to come home and murder ourselves every
night.

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Dec 13 19:31:30 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:31:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24
In-Reply-To: <235948.12369.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <235948.12369.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4761EB02.2010509@comcast.net>

17 of us in a Mustang, windows up, summer time, no air con and we all 
lit up a smoke.
Let's see you opens the window first.
Drove over to the beach in that car, I don't remember who or how many 
were driving but that was a cramped smoky ride.
I was in the back somewhere. Nobody in the trunk either.
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Dec 13 19:38:26 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:38:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] BMC Quality control
Message-ID: <4761ECA2.6050800@comcast.net>

While assembling the 67 front end for fit before body work, I find the 
right fender way short of the bonnet lip. It was not hit in that spot.
So all the adjusting in the world will not make ends meet.
So I measured each fender to find the right side 3/8" SHORTER than the 
bonnet and left fender.
I know big Healey fenders are not even close if you lay them back to 
back but I thought they got it a little closer on the Sprites.
The bonnet measures 48-5/8" at the fender lip on each side, as does the 
lip of the left fender. So how come the right fender measures 48-1/8" ?
Tomorrow I take a BFH to the fender or maybe see what the port-o-power 
can do.
At least I have the underside and engine bay painted. The doors fit 
perfect, but the front end looks like a nightmare.
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Thu Dec 13 19:57:28 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:57:28 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] BMC Quality control
In-Reply-To: <4761ECA2.6050800@comcast.net>
References: <4761ECA2.6050800@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <005e01c83dfd$11c2d2e0$354878a0$@com>

Ok, first off, take back everything bad you've said about big Healeys.

Want me to measure some of the chicken coop raccoon pooh fenders to see of
one's a better fit for ya?

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Frank Clarici
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 8:38 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] BMC Quality control

While assembling the 67 front end for fit before body work, I find the 
right fender way short of the bonnet lip. It was not hit in that spot.
So all the adjusting in the world will not make ends meet.
So I measured each fender to find the right side 3/8" SHORTER than the 
bonnet and left fender.
I know big Healey fenders are not even close if you lay them back to 
back but I thought they got it a little closer on the Sprites.
The bonnet measures 48-5/8" at the fender lip on each side, as does the 
lip of the left fender. So how come the right fender measures 48-1/8" ?
Tomorrow I take a BFH to the fender or maybe see what the port-o-power 
can do.
At least I have the underside and engine bay painted. The doors fit 
perfect, but the front end looks like a nightmare.
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Thu Dec 13 20:00:06 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:00:06 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] BMC Quality control
References: <4761ECA2.6050800@comcast.net>
	<005e01c83dfd$11c2d2e0$354878a0$@com>
Message-ID: <003301c83dfd$6ed3e5a0$0401a8c0@midget>

> Ok, first off, take back everything bad you've said about big Healeys.

Be reasonable, Flounder. You KNOW that would take so long that the rest of 
the car would have rusted away by the time he is done. 

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Dec 13 20:09:33 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:09:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] BMC Quality control
In-Reply-To: <005e01c83dfd$11c2d2e0$354878a0$@com>
References: <4761ECA2.6050800@comcast.net>
	<005e01c83dfd$11c2d2e0$354878a0$@com>
Message-ID: <4761F3ED.8070006@comcast.net>

Wm. Severin Thompson wrote:
> Ok, first off, take back everything bad you've said about big Healeys.

I just can't do that. I owned one. I restored it, 40s tech at it's best.

> Want me to measure some of the chicken coop raccoon pooh fenders to see of
> one's a better fit for ya?

Please do. From the bonnet side of the fender, top edge, cowl to front 
lip where the alum surround would go.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec 13 20:34:14 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:34:14 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24
References: <235948.12369.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4761EB02.2010509@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <049701c83e02$339c5800$6401a8c0@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>
To: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24


17 of us in a Mustang, windows up, summer time, no air con and we all
lit up a smoke.
Let's see you opens the window first.
Drove over to the beach in that car, I don't remember who or how many
were driving but that was a cramped smoky ride.
I was in the back somewhere. Nobody in the trunk either.
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
_______________________________________________

8 of us in a 65 V-dub Beetle.  Drunk as skunks.  Middle of a WI winter, 
colder than a witch's t_t out.  Typical V-dub heater/defroster had no effect 
on a bunch of drunks exhalation frosting up the windows.  Had to open the 
windows and stick your head out to see where the hell you were going. 
Freeze your face off and never care because you were too loaded to know how 
much it hurt.  Ah, yes, the folly of youth.  Would probably do the same 
thing all over again.

BTW, we (more or less, intentionally) hit a cat crossing the road and left 
it's guts frozen on the RF fender as a trophy for the rest of the winter. 
High school officials had a little bit of a problem with that being parked 
in the lot every day.  Bright kids.

LAD 

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Thu Dec 13 22:03:13 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:03:13 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24
Message-ID: <380-220071251453130@earthlink.net>

Billy Zoom wrote:  "At least you had a dad. We had to come home and murder
ourselves every night."

Arrgh....  You were lucky!  We tried to come home, but our folks had moved
and taken the house with them.  And left no forwarding address

From dwramsey at att.net  Thu Dec 13 22:47:18 2007
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:47:18 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24
In-Reply-To: <4761EB02.2010509@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20071214054810.DAEAD1879EB@autox.team.net>

You got pictures?
		Crash


17 of us in a Mustang, windows up, summer time, no air con and we all 
lit up a smoke.
Let's see you opens the window first.
Drove over to the beach in that car, I don't remember who or how many 
were driving but that was a cramped smoky ride.
I was in the back somewhere. Nobody in the trunk either.
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Fri Dec 14 05:33:56 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 06:33:56 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24
References: <380-220071251453130@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <003d01c83e4d$98f55d00$0401a8c0@midget>

>> Billy Zoom wrote:  "At least you had a dad. We had to come home and 
>> murder
>> ourselves every night."

> Arrgh....  You were lucky!  We tried to come home, but our folks had moved
> and taken the house with them.  And left no forwarding address

Now you sound more like Emo Phillips...

"When I was 9, my folks moved to Downers Grove, Illinois...
When I was 12, I FOUND them." 

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Fri Dec 14 05:34:55 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 06:34:55 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24
References: <20071214054810.DAEAD1879EB@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <004101c83e4d$bb6d3740$0401a8c0@midget>

>> 17 of us in a Mustang, windows up, summer time, no air con and we all 
>> lit up a smoke.

> You got pictures?

Wouldn't that come under the heading of incriminating evidence?

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Dec 14 08:49:50 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:49:50 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [Mgs] Good Laugh on Ebay
Message-ID: <04e401c83e68$f68ee560$6401a8c0@Larry>

>From the MG list


Check out this guys description of a Unipart oil filter for sale on eBay:

http://tinyurl.com/29tser

From derf247 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 14 09:36:03 2007
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:36:03 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Get me off this list
In-Reply-To: <003401c83d80$0ceb13e0$26c13ba0$@net>
References: <003401c83d80$0ceb13e0$26c13ba0$@net>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910712140836u9e15385y96bbf89b76d864be@mail.gmail.com>

You stop it the same way you started it.
Begin with the link at the bottom of every message from the list.


On 12/13/07, Joe <motorchef at comcast.net> wrote:
> The mail coming in here is crazy! How do I stop this? Help!

From derf247 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 14 09:40:26 2007
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:40:26 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24
In-Reply-To: <004101c83e4d$bb6d3740$0401a8c0@midget>
References: <20071214054810.DAEAD1879EB@autox.team.net>
	<004101c83e4d$bb6d3740$0401a8c0@midget>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910712140840o25d5af9cv2dfe0779c68a3213@mail.gmail.com>

9 in a Mustang.
Marcus, driving.  Me in the passenger seat.  7 pretty girls, some very
pretty, stacked in with us.

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Fri Dec 14 09:53:35 2007
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:53:35 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Get me off this list
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910712140836u9e15385y96bbf89b76d864be@mail.gmail.com>
References: <003401c83d80$0ceb13e0$26c13ba0$@net>
	<5f00d9910712140836u9e15385y96bbf89b76d864be@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090712140853q4dea5c50x23f6d50737cfb1a7@mail.gmail.com>

You can check out any time you like
But you can never leave..........

On Dec 14, 2007 10:36 AM, derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:

> You stop it the same way you started it.
> Begin with the link at the bottom of every message from the list.
>
>
> On 12/13/07, Joe <motorchef at comcast.net> wrote:
> > The mail coming in here is crazy! How do I stop this? Help!
> _______________________________________________
> tequila.brad at gmail.com
>
> Edit your replies
>
> http://www.team.net/archive
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets
>



-- 
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From wsthompson at thicko.com  Fri Dec 14 09:54:27 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:54:27 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] BMC Quality control
In-Reply-To: <4761F3ED.8070006@comcast.net>
References: <4761ECA2.6050800@comcast.net>
	<005e01c83dfd$11c2d2e0$354878a0$@com> <4761F3ED.8070006@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <006401c83e71$ff0e1a40$fd2a4ec0$@com>

Mary's Midget (bondo right front)
Left 48 3/4 Right 48 7/8

Tetanus the lime green rotbucket
Left 48 7/8 Right 49

CoonCrap 2	
Left 48 3/4 Right 48 3/4

All pretty consistant.

I just can't do that. I owned one. I restored it, 40s tech at it's best.

> Want me to measure some of the chicken coop raccoon pooh fenders to see of
> one's a better fit for ya?

Please do. From the bonnet side of the fender, top edge, cowl to front 
lip where the alum surround would go.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Dec 14 10:03:05 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:03:05 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910712140840o25d5af9cv2dfe0779c68a3213@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F20B87DACC11A32FE8B7ACEB8670@phx.gbl>

Why did you get out?

>From: derf <derf247 at gmail.com>
>
>9 in a Mustang.
>Marcus, driving.  Me in the passenger seat.  7 pretty girls, some very
>pretty, stacked in with us.

From John.Deikis at va.gov  Fri Dec 14 10:51:15 2007
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:51:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] BMC Quality control
In-Reply-To: <4761ECA2.6050800@comcast.net>
References: <4761ECA2.6050800@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921510@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

It's the stout.


-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Clarici [mailto:spritenut at comcast.net]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 9:38 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] BMC Quality control

... So how come the right fender measures 48-1/8" ?...
--
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net  Fri Dec 14 11:21:07 2007
From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:21:07 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Fw: [Mgs] Good Laugh on Ebay
References: <04e401c83e68$f68ee560$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <004801c83e7e$1a175fc0$f675fea9@p0k7l8>

What a riot!!  Worth the read

Pa

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Larry Daniels
  To: Spridgets List ; bugeye at yahoogroups.com ; Austin Group
  Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 7:49 AM
  Subject: Bugeye Group..... Fw: [Mgs] Good Laugh on Ebay


  From the MG list

  Check out this guys description of a Unipart oil filter for sale on eBay:

  http://tinyurl.com/29tser



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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Fri Dec 14 11:16:13 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:16:13 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24
In-Reply-To: <003d01c83e4d$98f55d00$0401a8c0@midget>
References: <380-220071251453130@earthlink.net>
	<003d01c83e4d$98f55d00$0401a8c0@midget>
Message-ID: <4762C86D.4030307@earthlink.net>

David Lieb wrote: "Now you sound more like Emo Phillips..."

Nope, just one of Four Yorkshiremen.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Dec 14 11:35:13 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:35:13 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] BMC Quality control
In-Reply-To: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921510@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
References: <4761ECA2.6050800@comcast.net>
	<E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921510@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712141035m5b109e1by2ed459bfa1230e26@mail.gmail.com>

Give it some Viagra....


On 12/14/07, Deikis, John G <John.Deikis at va.gov> wrote:
>
> It's the stout.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank Clarici [mailto:spritenut at comcast.net]
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 9:38 PM
> To: Spridgets
> Subject: [Spridgets] BMC Quality control
>
> ... So how come the right fender measures 48-1/8" ?...
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> _______________________________________________
> bmwwxman at gmail.com
>
> Edit your replies
>
> http://www.team.net/archive
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets
>



-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Fri Dec 14 12:24:17 2007
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:24:17 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] OK experts, LBC content
Message-ID: <000601c83e86$eb7b8660$c7a1bf46@personal>

You guys may have seen this before?

I just came back from a nice drive, lovely here sun out and high 60s.

Here is what I determined.

Below 3K RPM all is fine. From 3K to 4K clutch pedel is low but workable when
shifting. Above 4K pedel will not release clutch.

I do have a 1275 slave push rod installed which is 2 11/16 long vs the 948,
1098 which is 2 1/2 inchs long. However, I would think that the longer one
would be fine as the pedel is good other wise. But then is it? I can change
out easly enough, not a problem. Do you think it makes any difference?
_________________________
Jack Laird
Retired USAF


AN5L 24515, Eng. 9C-U-H 16218, Apr. 1959
"Miss Agatha" On the road again and smiling.

From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU  Fri Dec 14 12:25:27 2007
From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:25:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 7, Issue 31
In-Reply-To: <mailman.38608.1197650472.12556.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.38608.1197650472.12556.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <2BCCF269-CE17-4B32-9CD2-87C75B5E5BF8@dartmouth.edu>

Jeesh rub it in - at least you had a house once - we lived in a  
Mustang at the Bowling Alley....


On Dec 14, 2007, at 11:41 AM, "Robert Bruce Evans" <b- 
evans at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Arrgh....  You were lucky!  We tried to come home, but our folks  
> had moved
> and taken the house with them.  And left no forwarding address

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Fri Dec 14 12:42:19 2007
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:42:19 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] More LBC content
Message-ID: <000601c83e89$7099abe0$c7a1bf46@personal>

you guys may have seen this before?

Has anyone else had this prob? I just came back from a nice drive, lovely here
sun out and high 60s.

Here is what I determined.

Below 3K RPM all is fine. From 3K to 4K clutch pedel is low but workable when
shifting. Above 4K pedel will not release clutch.

I do have a 1275 slave push rod which is 2 11/16 long vs the 948, 1098 which
is 2 1/2 inchs long. However, I would think that the longer one would be fine
as the pedel is good other wise. But then is it? I can change out easly
enough, not a problem. Do you think it makes any difference?

Guess I forgot to say, new cylinders, new clutch etc etc.
Did not notice with old worn out clutch.
_________________________
Jack Laird
Retired USAF


AN5L 24515, Eng. 9C-U-H 16218, Apr. 1959
"Miss Agatha" On the road again and smiling.

From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net  Fri Dec 14 14:09:30 2007
From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:09:30 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] More LBC content
References: <000601c83e89$7099abe0$c7a1bf46@personal>
Message-ID: <020601c83e95$9fb752e0$f675fea9@p0k7l8>

Souinds like a possible bubble of air in the clutch system.  Many clutch
designs clamp tighter at high RPM's.  If that's your case, as more release
bearing pressure is needed, the bubble compresses more and inhibits the
travel of the release arm.  At lower rpm's, the air bubble might not
compress as much, allowing the release of the disc.

Pa

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jack Laird" <jlaird237 at cox.net>
To: "spridgets net" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 11:42 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] More LBC content


> you guys may have seen this before?
>
> Has anyone else had this prob? I just came back from a nice drive, lovely
here
> sun out and high 60s.
>
> Here is what I determined.
>
> Below 3K RPM all is fine. From 3K to 4K clutch pedel is low but workable
when
> shifting. Above 4K pedel will not release clutch.
>
> I do have a 1275 slave push rod which is 2 11/16 long vs the 948, 1098
which
> is 2 1/2 inchs long. However, I would think that the longer one would be
fine
> as the pedel is good other wise. But then is it? I can change out easly
> enough, not a problem. Do you think it makes any difference?
>
> Guess I forgot to say, new cylinders, new clutch etc etc.
> Did not notice with old worn out clutch.
> _________________________
> Jack Laird
> Retired USAF
>
>
> AN5L 24515, Eng. 9C-U-H 16218, Apr. 1959
> "Miss Agatha" On the road again and smiling.

From Daniel1312 at aol.com  Fri Dec 14 15:41:12 2007
From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:41:12 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] test 2 Daniel1312 returns
Message-ID: <d33.1d5bc13f.34946088@aol.com>

Test 2

From Daniel1312 at aol.com  Fri Dec 14 15:52:50 2007
From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:52:50 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] New engine runs
Message-ID: <d0f.19c7cdb6.34946342@aol.com>

Hi List,
 
I've made it back to the list before Christmas and hope to hang on until  the 
first week of the new year.
 
Much been happening on the list since the summer?
 
I've finally finished the install on the new engine for my Sprite which  also 
has an aluminium alloy cast Weslake rocker cover.  I had a whole  series of 
hold-ups which involved waiting for parts time after time.
 
Final bits arrived on Tuesday and I've spent every evening since in the  
garage.  Did I mention I have an aluminium alloy cast Weslake rocker  cover.  Ok, 
it's not as cold over here as it where most of you are but  nonetheless 
working in an unheated garage at about freezing or just below is no  fun.  The first 
time I picked up anything metal my hand's practically  froze.
 
With nearly new everything including a new Controlled Vortex exhaust  
manifold and system pipe it was typical that nothing simply bolted together but  had 
to have a couple of test fits and adjustments first.
 
Tonight I did the ignition timing - without a timing light as I'd spend the  
timing light money on new roller rockers and the engine fired up practically  
straight away.  Yeah, I did crank the engine for oil pressure and saw some  
before attempting to start it.  Bear in mind that starting an engine  on a 
45DCOE that has a fairly radical cam in near freezing conditions with  approximate 
engine timing is less than ideal.  So, I was really pleased it  started 
without too much fuss.
 
The cam is is new so that had to be bedded in for 20 mins at 2250-2500  rpm.  
The new engine won't make much more power though is lighter and with  a 
lighter flywheel and clutch.  At one point I didn't so much as  accidentally blip 
the throttle to 4250 as over caress the pedal.
 
I still have to get the bonnet on and do a lot of unrelated (to the engine  
change) wiring and other tidying up jobs so may not get to drive it until 
Sunday  afternoon or maybe the following Saturday.  I also have some other stuff to 
 fit in between now and then.
 
Did I forget to mention the Weslake rocker cover:  _www.weslake.co.uk_ 
(http://www.weslake.co.uk)  
 
Regards
 
Daniel1312

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Dec 14 17:12:26 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:12:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] New engine runs
In-Reply-To: <d0f.19c7cdb6.34946342@aol.com>
References: <d0f.19c7cdb6.34946342@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP02F946C9B272C74A1EE638B8600@CEZ.ICE>

That sounds pretty good!  So, what did you end up using for a rocker cover?

Robert D.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Daniel1312 at aol.com
Sent: December 14, 2007 5:53 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] New engine runs

Hi List,
 
I've made it back to the list before Christmas and hope to hang on until
the 
first week of the new year.
 
Much been happening on the list since the summer?
 
I've finally finished the install on the new engine for my Sprite which
also 
has an aluminium alloy cast Weslake rocker cover.  I had a whole  series of 
hold-ups which involved waiting for parts time after time.
 
Final bits arrived on Tuesday and I've spent every evening since in the  
garage.  Did I mention I have an aluminium alloy cast Weslake rocker  cover.
Ok, 
it's not as cold over here as it where most of you are but  nonetheless 
working in an unheated garage at about freezing or just below is no  fun.
The first 
time I picked up anything metal my hand's practically  froze.
 
With nearly new everything including a new Controlled Vortex exhaust  
manifold and system pipe it was typical that nothing simply bolted together
but  had 
to have a couple of test fits and adjustments first.
 
Tonight I did the ignition timing - without a timing light as I'd spend the

timing light money on new roller rockers and the engine fired up practically

straight away.  Yeah, I did crank the engine for oil pressure and saw some  
before attempting to start it.  Bear in mind that starting an engine  on a 
45DCOE that has a fairly radical cam in near freezing conditions with
approximate 
engine timing is less than ideal.  So, I was really pleased it  started 
without too much fuss.
 
The cam is is new so that had to be bedded in for 20 mins at 2250-2500  rpm.

The new engine won't make much more power though is lighter and with  a 
lighter flywheel and clutch.  At one point I didn't so much as  accidentally
blip 
the throttle to 4250 as over caress the pedal.
 
I still have to get the bonnet on and do a lot of unrelated (to the engine  
change) wiring and other tidying up jobs so may not get to drive it until 
Sunday  afternoon or maybe the following Saturday.  I also have some other
stuff to 
 fit in between now and then.
 
Did I forget to mention the Weslake rocker cover:  _www.weslake.co.uk_ 
(http://www.weslake.co.uk)  
 
Regards
 
Daniel1312

From tnhotairpilot at comcast.net  Fri Dec 14 18:01:35 2007
From: tnhotairpilot at comcast.net (Hank Beck)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:01:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Read intro before watching: Amazing commercial
Message-ID: <20071215010245.62BE01879D2@autox.team.net>

> > Subject: Read intro before watching: Amazing commercial
> >
> >  This is really cool, make sure you read the text below prior to > opening
> >
> > READ FIRST
> >
> >
> >>
> >> This is just way TOO cool a video.  You have to see it to believe it
> >> (but be sure to first read the text intro below).
> >>
> >> If you thought that the people who set up a room full of 
> dominoes to >> have
> >> them knocked over later was amazing, you haven't seen anything yet..
> >>
> >> There are no computer graphics or digital tricks in these images.
> >> Everything that you see happened in real time exactly as you see it..
> >>
> >> The recording required 606 takes and in the first 605 takes 
> there >> always
> >> was something, usually of minor importance, that didn't work.  It was
> >> necessary for the recording team to install the set-up time 
> after >> time and
> >> it took several weeks working day and night to achieve this effect.
> >>
> >> The recording cost 6 million dollars and it took 3 months to finish,
> >> including the engineering design of the sequence.
> >>
> >> The duration of the video is only 2 minutes, but every time that >> Honda
> >> shows the commercial on British television, they make enough money to
> >> support any of us for the rest of our lives.  However, this >> 
> commercial has
> >> turned out to be the most displayed in the history of the Internet.
> >>
> >> Honda execs think that it will pay for itself simply because of 
> the >> free
> >> showings (Honda is not paying one cent for you to see it)
> >>
> >> When Honda senior execs viewed it, they immediately approved 
> it >> without
> >> hesitation-including costs.
> >>
> >> There are only six Honda Accords built by hand in the whole 
> world, >> and to
> >> the horror of Honda engineers, the recording team disassembled 
> two >> of them
> >> for the recording.
> >>
> >> Everything you see in the sequence (besides the walls, floor, ramp >> and
> >> untouched Honda Accord) is part of those two automobiles.  The 
> voice >> is
> >> that of Garrison Keiller. The commercial was so well received by >> Honda
> >> execs when they saw it, that their first comment was how amazing the
> >> computer graphics were.  They almost fell out of their chairs 
> when >> told
> >> that the recording was real without any graphics manipulation.
> >>
> >> By the way, about the wind shield wipers in the new Honda 
> Accords, >> they
> >> are sensitive to water and designed to start working as soon as 
> they >> get
> >> wet.
> >>
>http:\\www.mywebpages.comcast.net/tnhotairpilot/AllPhysics.wmv

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Dec 14 18:42:12 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:42:12 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] RC Copter
Message-ID: <057d01c83ebb$b73724b0$6401a8c0@Larry>

Got my copters today.  What a blast.  If there was ever any doubt in my wife's
mind whether I had grown up, the answer is now evident.

I already got banished to my den with it for buzzing my wife and the dogs in
the living room.  Who didn't know that would happen.



LAD

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Fri Dec 14 18:48:16 2007
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:48:16 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] OK experts, LBC content
In-Reply-To: <000601c83e86$eb7b8660$c7a1bf46@personal>
Message-ID: <C3887260.133E3%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> Below 3K RPM all is fine. From 3K to 4K clutch pedel is low but workable when
> shifting. Above 4K pedel will not release clutch.
How does the clutch know the RPM's?

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Dec 14 19:00:20 2007
From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:00:20 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [Mgs] Good Laugh on Ebay
Message-ID: <093301c83ebe$3ffc8040$6501a8c0@actualshop>

Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 9:31 AM
Subject: [Mgs] Good Laugh on Ebay


Check out this guys description of a Unipart oil filter for sale on eBay:

http://tinyurl.com/29tser

From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri Dec 14 19:22:19 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:22:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] New engine runs
In-Reply-To: <d0f.19c7cdb6.34946342@aol.com>
References: <d0f.19c7cdb6.34946342@aol.com>
Message-ID: <47633A5B.5060407@comcast.net>

Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote:

> I've finally finished the install on the new engine for my Sprite 

The long awaited engine finally breathes.
125 mph around the round about next time I visit?
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net  Fri Dec 14 19:41:55 2007
From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:41:55 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] OK experts, LBC content
References: <C3887260.133E3%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <027201c83ec4$0fa76580$f675fea9@p0k7l8>

Depending on the design, by centrifugal weights.  Some don't know.  Maybe
they should be known a stupid clutches!

Pa

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Billy Zoom" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>

> How does the clutch know the RPM's?

From Grossac at aol.com  Fri Dec 14 20:21:42 2007
From: Grossac at aol.com (Grossac at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:21:42 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Speed 50! - Sprite Celebration Races at Mid-Ohio,
 June  2008
Message-ID: <d4f.1b4b51e0.3494a246@aol.com>

And,  another Sprite Featured Race for 2008:

SPRITE  SPEED 50!

A CELEBRATION OF 50 YEARS OF  RACING SPRITES
AT SVRAbS MID-OHIO VINTAGE  RACES, JUNE 26-29, 2008

Who:  Worldbs largest  gathering of racing Sprites and their brothers under
the skin (Midgets and  Sprite-derived specials).
What:  Four fun days of  practice, qualifying, qualifying aces and feature
races.
Where:  Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course, Lexington, Ohio
When:  Thursday June 26  through Sunday June 29, 2008.
Why:  To celebrate the  50th anniversary of our beloved Sprites and their
early racing  successes, also including examples of variants and modern
iterations (selected  current SCCA cars with history.)  Additionally, entrants
will be
eligible to compete for overall honors in  the Across-the Border Can-Am
Challenge with the VARAC event being held the  preceding weekend at Mosport.
Some pertinent details:
B7        Information and  registration at _www.SVRA.com_
(http://www.svra.com/) .
B7        Thursday b Optional  track familiarization day with available
coaching.
B7        Friday b A minimum of  two practice/qualifying sessions.
B7        Saturday b A  minimum of one qualifying session and one qualifying
race.  Depending on car  preparation/modifications and speed potential, SVRA
may assign selected cars to  an appropriate class.
B7        Sunday b Morning  warm-ups, and afternoon class races, followed by
trophy presentations.
B7        Number of sessions and  races will be dependent on the size of the
entry. There will be at least one  dedicated All-Sprite Feature Race during
the
weekend in addition to races for  SVRAbs normal race groupings.  With  a
large enough entry, Sprites may be eligible for reduced entry fees and other
bestowments.
Chris Gross  12-14-07



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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Dec 14 23:06:13 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:06:13 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] OK experts, LBC content
In-Reply-To: <C3887260.133E3%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <000601c83e86$eb7b8660$c7a1bf46@personal>
	<C3887260.133E3%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712142206r2b65efdcta284cbb714e4451c@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/14/07, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:
>
>
> How does the clutch know the RPM's?


Clutches are very sensitive things. Very existential. They empathize with
the whole mechanical experience. I know that some people think mechanicals
are simply nuts and bolts. Those people are like the Republicans. They just
don't understand how some of us can "feel" things are right without any
concrete evidence. If your clutch knows the RPMs you should just relax and
go with the flow. Give your clutch the chance to be something special. Let
it be... Let it be...   Let it be...     ;-)   (Here's a flower in your
exhaust pipe).
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Thu Dec 13 07:24:02 2007
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester Ewing)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 08:24:02 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Unsub instructions was  Get me off this list
In-Reply-To: <003401c83d80$0ceb13e0$26c13ba0$@net>
References: <003401c83d80$0ceb13e0$26c13ba0$@net>
Message-ID: <3CCB0EF9-362B-4437-A396-9E640060D2E7@comcast.net>

On Dec 13, 2007, at 6:02 AM, Joe wrote:

> The mail coming in here is crazy! How do I stop this? Help!
>
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From dwramsey at att.net  Sat Dec 15 00:34:59 2007
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:34:59 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] OK experts, LBC content
In-Reply-To: <000601c83e86$eb7b8660$c7a1bf46@personal>
Message-ID: <20071215073600.BC0EF187A13@autox.team.net>

Putting the longer push rod in a 948 clutch is usually done because the TO
bearing and/or clutch is worn (I've seen lots of push rods with extensions
welded on in the old day). Putting the shorter one in should make it worse
not better.  You could try an even longer push rod (or the proper size nut
in the slave cylinder, seen that a lot also). If you have a later model
ribcase and the original 948 backing plate that also can cause that type of
problem. My bet is you will soon be replacing the clutch and TO bearing.
		Crash 


You guys may have seen this before?

I just came back from a nice drive, lovely here sun out and high 60s.

Here is what I determined.

Below 3K RPM all is fine. From 3K to 4K clutch pedel is low but workable
when
shifting. Above 4K pedel will not release clutch.

I do have a 1275 slave push rod installed which is 2 11/16 long vs the 948,
1098 which is 2 1/2 inchs long. However, I would think that the longer one
would be fine as the pedel is good other wise. But then is it? I can change
out easly enough, not a problem. Do you think it makes any difference?
_________________________
Jack Laird
Retired USAF

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sat Dec 15 02:21:38 2007
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:21:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] RC Copter
In-Reply-To: <057d01c83ebb$b73724b0$6401a8c0@Larry>
References: <057d01c83ebb$b73724b0$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <d3f8a23a72a211eca30510a.20071215012138.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com>

Which ones did you get Larry?
Mike MacLean


Larry Daniels
> Got my copters today.  What a blast.  If there was ever any doubt in my
> wife's
> mind whether I had grown up, the answer is now evident.
>
> I already got banished to my den with it for buzzing my wife and the dogs
> in
> the living room.  Who didn't know that would happen.
>
>
>
> LAD
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From jlaird237 at cox.net  Sat Dec 15 06:34:26 2007
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 07:34:26 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] OK experts, LBC content
References: <20071215073516.IUED18122.fed1rmmtai108.cox.net@fed1rmimpi02.cox.net>
Message-ID: <002501c83f1f$3641b0f0$c7a1bf46@personal>

Gesh, it is all new. Less than 100 miles. Had the engine out 4 times getting 
a rear leak fixed and think maybe, just maybe got a bubble in the line that 
is causing the problem. Going to put a vacumn bleeder on it tuesday.

Is a 949 with an orginal tranny, in excellent shape I may add.

At rest or low RPMs the clutch feels good and works just great. Smooth no 
judder and nice travel. It just goes further in before releasing the clutch 
at higher RPM and all the way to the floor over about 4500.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Ramsey" <dwramsey at att.net>
To: "'Jack Laird'" <jlaird237 at cox.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 1:34 AM
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] OK experts, LBC content


> Putting the longer push rod in a 948 clutch is usually done because the TO
> bearing and/or clutch is worn (I've seen lots of push rods with extensions
> welded on in the old day). Putting the shorter one in should make it worse
> not better.  You could try an even longer push rod (or the proper size nut
> in the slave cylinder, seen that a lot also). If you have a later model
> ribcase and the original 948 backing plate that also can cause that type 
> of
> problem. My bet is you will soon be replacing the clutch and TO bearing.
> Crash
>
>
> You guys may have seen this before?
>
> I just came back from a nice drive, lovely here sun out and high 60s.
>
> Here is what I determined.
>
> Below 3K RPM all is fine. From 3K to 4K clutch pedel is low but workable
> when
> shifting. Above 4K pedel will not release clutch.
>
> I do have a 1275 slave push rod installed which is 2 11/16 long vs the 
> 948,
> 1098 which is 2 1/2 inchs long. However, I would think that the longer one
> would be fine as the pedel is good other wise. But then is it? I can 
> change
> out easly enough, not a problem. Do you think it makes any difference?
> _________________________
> Jack Laird
> Retired USAF
>
>
>
>
>
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sat Dec 15 08:44:44 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 10:44:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] New engine runs
In-Reply-To: <be0.27977185.349506b0@aol.com>
References: <be0.27977185.349506b0@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP0971F7A0BBA958582175A9B8600@CEZ.ICE>

Sorry, could you repeat that again?  ;)

 

  _____  

From: Daniel1312 at aol.com [mailto:Daniel1312 at aol.com] 
Sent: December 15, 2007 5:30 AM
To: robertduquette at sympatico.ca
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New engine runs

 

W E S L A K E

 

 

In a message dated 15/12/2007 00:12:53 GMT Standard Time,
robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes:

That sounds pretty good!  So, what did you end up using for a rocker cover?

Robert D.

From dmeadow at juno.com  Sat Dec 15 12:12:53 2007
From: dmeadow at juno.com (dmeadow at juno.com)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:12:53 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] 2 Vintage MG Midget Racecars for Sale
Message-ID: <20071215.131254.3992.1.dmeadow@juno.com>

With the 50th anniversary of the introduction of the Sprite, this is the
year to race a Spridget!!  Many venues are offering special run groups,
fees, and track time for Spridget racers (and, yes, Midgets are
eligible).

I've got two racecars for sale.  One is the wife's yellow #29 car that
some of you may have seen at various events.  It is a mid-pack car and is
ready to race.  It has a relatively mild motor and a stock transmission. 
We're asking $8800 for that one.

The other is a grey/green #75 that was formerly owned and raced by Gregg
Rodgers of Pinnacle Autosports.  It is a front-runner with all the
goodies.  You might have seen it finishing in the top three or better at
national venues across the country.  We're asking $13,500 for that one.

Never fear, I'm keeping The Gnat, my world famous '74 Midget racer, and
will be racing it this year.

Contact me off list if you are sincerely interested.

Thanks!

David Littlefield
Houston, TX

From nory1 at adelphia.net  Wed Dec 12 21:18:46 2007
From: nory1 at adelphia.net (Nory)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 23:18:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Oh Yessss!
In-Reply-To: <4760678B.9060809@comcast.net>
References: <380-2200712312184644281@earthlink.net>
	<4760678B.9060809@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <DB02F538-BD1B-406D-AE86-84FA2E0B55A3@adelphia.net>

Hell, mid 50's is BEACH weather in Buffalo!


On Dec 12, 2007, at 5:58 PM, Frank Clarici wrote:

> So why is "mid 50s" long sleeve and jackets in So Cal but where men  
> are
> men in Joisey, mid 50s is tee shirt weather?
> 40s is long sleeves, 30s is sweatshirt, low 20s is jacket and top up
> weather.

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sat Dec 15 19:15:35 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:15:35 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Oh Yessss!
In-Reply-To: <DB02F538-BD1B-406D-AE86-84FA2E0B55A3@adelphia.net>
References: <380-2200712312184644281@earthlink.net>
	<4760678B.9060809@comcast.net>
	<DB02F538-BD1B-406D-AE86-84FA2E0B55A3@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <47648A47.6090507@earthlink.net>

Nory wrote::  "So why is "mid 50s" long sleeve and jackets in So Cal..."

Say *WHAT*????  I have a long-sleeved shirt.  Somewhere.  Usually take 
with me to England "just in case"...

" is jacket and top up weather."

What's a "top"???  (Oh, yeah, I had one of those about 40 years ago.  
But I was in Memphis back then!

Buster

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sat Dec 15 20:43:14 2007
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester Ewing)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 21:43:14 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] New engine runs
In-Reply-To: <BAYC1-PASMTP0971F7A0BBA958582175A9B8600@CEZ.ICE>
References: <be0.27977185.349506b0@aol.com>
	<BAYC1-PASMTP0971F7A0BBA958582175A9B8600@CEZ.ICE>
Message-ID: <CAAC4859-1CBE-4F93-A2EE-6D269FC0221C@comcast.net>

Ya know..  I have a fairly stock Moss Green rocker cover that you  
could use for those extra concours points..  I'ld hate to let it go  
but you sound like you are in desperate need of one ..

Lester

On Dec 15, 2007, at 9:44 AM, Robert Duquette wrote:

> Sorry, could you repeat that again?  ;)
>
>
>
>  _____
>
> From: Daniel1312 at aol.com [mailto:Daniel1312 at aol.com]
> Sent: December 15, 2007 5:30 AM
> To: robertduquette at sympatico.ca
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New engine runs
>
>
>
> W E S L A K E
>
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 15/12/2007 00:12:53 GMT Standard Time,
> robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes:
>
> That sounds pretty good!  So, what did you end up using for a rocker  
> cover?
>
> Robert D.
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From shelden3 at pldi.net  Sat Dec 15 21:48:38 2007
From: shelden3 at pldi.net (Charlie Shelden)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:48:38 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] cool tool find
Message-ID: <003401c83f9e$ecc38b80$6601a8c0@housexemkv1xcx>

Hello all!

While not directly spridget related, this is certainly a tool that you could
use.  I was rebuilding my father's yamaha golf cart and the threads on the end
of the crank became really messed up (another story).  I worked on filing and
it was hopeless.  I kept thinking surely there is a tool for this.

I found a product called "Chase 'em Back" it is a die that is hinged, to allow
you to place the die on the shaft and then back over the damaged threads. How
ingenious!  They have many kits for sale but I only needed a 16x1mm die,
called them and they are 16.00, I ordered it on wednesday and it arrived in
the mail today from California.  How about that for quick!  It works as
advertised as well, You can use a T-handle or a 1 1/4 socket to work the die.
I am a very happy customer indeed, do a google search and check them out.  I'm
sure when I start my Bugeye project back up I'll find my self ordering a
complete set of die's for just such needs.

Merry Christmas,

Charlie in frozen Oklahoma

59 Sprite

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From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au  Sat Dec 15 22:12:51 2007
From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 16:12:51 +1100 (EST)
Subject: [Spridgets] rear brakes sticking
Message-ID: <860625.33995.qm@web50608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

  I am cooking my rear brakes..
   
  What would cause them to stay on when the brake pedal is released?
   
  mkIIa sprite with one double piston wheel cylinder each side.
   
   
  It started last week when i smelled brake or clutch.. the heat caused the plastic centre cap on my alloy wheel to relax and fall off, which i heard, and saw both rear wheels were hot. The brake linings had cooked and broken up.
  minimal drum scoring, but needed new rubber boots for the wheel cyls.
   
  Installed new linings yesterday, adjusted to acheive a free spinning wheel.. drove a few km....cooking again.
  I backed off the adjusters, got the wheel to spin free, then applied the pedal, released, and there is still brake on the wheel when i spin it by hand.
   
  advice appreciated
   
  andy
   

       
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From racerbob70 at yahoo.com  Sat Dec 15 23:17:26 2007
From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:17:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] rear brakes sticking
In-Reply-To: <860625.33995.qm@web50608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <469088.23447.qm@web51606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Andy,
  The flex line at the rear is swollen shut probably
from age.  The higher pressure from the master
cylinder forces fluid thru it but then it can't return
to the master.  BTDT!!!!!  I'd replace all 3 flex
lines, front and back.
Bob


--- Andy Webster <a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au> wrote:

>   I am cooking my rear brakes..
>    
>   What would cause them to stay on when the brake
> pedal is released?
>    
>   mkIIa sprite with one double piston wheel cylinder
> each side.
>    
>    
>   It started last week when i smelled brake or
> clutch.. the heat caused the plastic centre cap on
> my alloy wheel to relax and fall off, which i heard,
> and saw both rear wheels were hot. The brake linings
> had cooked and broken up.
>   minimal drum scoring, but needed new rubber boots
> for the wheel cyls.
>    
>   Installed new linings yesterday, adjusted to
> acheive a free spinning wheel.. drove a few
> km....cooking again.
>   I backed off the adjusters, got the wheel to spin
> free, then applied the pedal, released, and there is
> still brake on the wheel when i spin it by hand.
>    
>   advice appreciated
>    
>   andy
>    
> 
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Dec 16 00:55:02 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 01:55:02 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] rear brakes sticking
In-Reply-To: <469088.23447.qm@web51606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <860625.33995.qm@web50608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<469088.23447.qm@web51606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712152355g7bafa11pcf55d88e39743058@mail.gmail.com>

Firs check the hand brake adjustment....
Jim

On 12/16/07, Bob Van Kirk <racerbob70 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Andy,
>   The flex line at the rear is swollen shut probably
> from age.  The higher pressure from the master
> cylinder forces fluid thru it but then it can't return
> to the master.  BTDT!!!!!  I'd replace all 3 flex
> lines, front and back.
> Bob
>
>
> --- Andy Webster <a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> >   I am cooking my rear brakes..
> >
> >   What would cause them to stay on when the brake
> > pedal is released?
> >
> >   mkIIa sprite with one double piston wheel cylinder
> > each side.
> >
> >
> >   It started last week when i smelled brake or
> > clutch.. the heat caused the plastic centre cap on
> > my alloy wheel to relax and fall off, which i heard,
> > and saw both rear wheels were hot. The brake linings
> > had cooked and broken up.
> >   minimal drum scoring, but needed new rubber boots
> > for the wheel cyls.
> >
> >   Installed new linings yesterday, adjusted to
> > acheive a free spinning wheel.. drove a few
> > km....cooking again.
> >   I backed off the adjusters, got the wheel to spin
> > free, then applied the pedal, released, and there is
> > still brake on the wheel when i spin it by hand.
> >
> >   advice appreciated
> >
> >   andy
> >
> >
> >
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From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Sun Dec 16 07:17:27 2007
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 09:17:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] AC/DC and LBC's
In-Reply-To: <104082.88920.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <BLU111-W43ED2C9774A4993B80671FC26B0@phx.gbl>
	<104082.88920.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU111-W485B687C53A462FE6D728AC2610@phx.gbl>

Sounds cool, he does live in Sarasota. And the crew that prepares their cars
is from Sarasota too.
Can't remember the name of the outfit.
Very cool that he would play a local hangout.

Brian S.

Bugeyeracer under resto

> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:20:28 -0800
> From: soavero at yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] AC/DC and LBC's
> To: bugeye15 at hotmail.com; spridgets at autox.team.net
>
>
> --- brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > AC/DC front man Brian Johnson, who took over for Bon
> > Scott after he died,
> > vintage races a Sports Racer and his wife, Brenda,
> >  Vintage Races a Bugeye
>
> Talk about serious synchronicity -
>
> My Sprite racing buddy Jeff Porasik saw him last Sat
> night at a bar in  Sarasota. Brian played a local
> Irish pub with former members of the late John
> Entwistle's band (Jay - Andy Fairweather Low? I'd have
> to look it up). I got a cell call with lots of
> digitally filtered noise that was apparently "Back in
> Black".
>
> Ron
>

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From geowiz.sgy at cox.net  Sun Dec 16 07:52:55 2007
From: geowiz.sgy at cox.net (James E. Pickard)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 08:52:55 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel problem
Message-ID: <20FD8B2205D447068484CB2BE78F1A62@JEPHome>

The bugeye died on my way home from the weekly breakfast gathering of the
SICKOS (Special Interest Car Klub/Organization/Society).  Even with my limited
(but improving) mechanical skills I was quickly able to determine that lack of
fuel was the culprit.  As the gas tank was half full, I assumed the mechanical
fuel pump had likely ruptured the diaphragm, but upon disassembly, it was
intact.  But while removing the fuel line to gain access to the pump (talk
about tight), I realized no gas was flowing via gravity from the tank.  I
could blow into the fuel line, but that didn't initiate flow.  Finally, by
pressurizing the fuel tank, I got a good flow going that was sustained after
releasing the pressure.

Fine and dandy, except I really haven't fixed anything.  Whatever caused the
blockage is likely still in there, lurking to rear its ugly head again.  What
should I do before I put it all back together and declare the problem fixed?

Thanks.

Jim Pickard
B9473298 ('65 Tiger)
AN5L/12109 ('59 Sprite)
2003 Mini Cooper
Lafayette, LA

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Dec 16 08:21:14 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 10:21:14 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel problem
In-Reply-To: <20FD8B2205D447068484CB2BE78F1A62@JEPHome>
References: <20FD8B2205D447068484CB2BE78F1A62@JEPHome>
Message-ID: <4765426A.20900@comcast.net>

Try compressed air and blowing from the fuel pump back to the tank 
(remove the gas cap) This should dislodge anything stuck to the screen 
inside the tank. But if it happens again, you may have to drop the tank 
and clean it out.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From vern at srvinet.com  Sun Dec 16 09:03:28 2007
From: vern at srvinet.com (vern at srvinet.com)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 09:03:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] posi screw driver
Message-ID: <47654C50.70900@srvinet.com>

I can't find anyone who supplies a #4 posi screw driver to use
on the door hinges.
Anyone know who might supply such an item.  Sure would
be nice to work on doors without ruining the heads of the bolts.
Vern

-- 
See my
59 bugeye
78 MGB 
79 midget RB at:

http://olsen.ispeedwireless.net/

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun Dec 16 09:10:19 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 10:10:19 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] posi screw driver
References: <47654C50.70900@srvinet.com>
Message-ID: <00cf01c83ffe$27b733e0$0401a8c0@midget>

>I can't find anyone who supplies a #4 posi screw driver to use
> on the door hinges.

Vern,
It would probably work better if you were looking for "Pozi" or "Pozidriv" 
rather than "Posi".
Snap-On carries them
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/tools.asp?tool=all&Group_ID=279&store=snapon-store
David 

From Daniel1312 at aol.com  Sun Dec 16 10:55:59 2007
From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 12:55:59 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] First drive on new engine
Message-ID: <c5e.2639bffc.3496c0af@aol.com>

Hi list,

Managed to find time today for the first drive on the new engine.  The
objective was to put 100 miles on it at 3000 rpm.  I thought the roads  would
be
quiet but they turned out to be busier than expected.  There were  2 problems,
the first after about a mile was that a plug lead came loose which  was easily
fixed.  The second was another total ignition failure.  I  fixed it without
knowing what the problem was (jiggled lots of leads) but  suspect it's a bad
contact on the electronic ignition pickup.  I'm ordering  a new set of HT
leads
in the morning.

I made one stop for petrol - I don't know the price in gallons but it's  over
a #1 a Litre now.

The weather was close to freezing and my feet were numb when I got home
after just under 2 hours.  I managed 96 miles rather than a 100 but all at  a
steady 3000-3100 rpm which is about 60mph+ (3.9 diff and a 5 speed).  I'm
open to
suggestions on how to run-in the engine from this point forward.

The engine ran ok and seemed smooth enough.  All the guages read Ok  though
as expected it ran a little on the hot side for coolant to what I'd have
expected (I'll check the level tomorrow).  There were no fluid leaks of any
kind.
I realised half way home that I'd forgotten to connect the horn but  that's
connected now.

The worst part of the trip was catching up a gritting lorry which was in  the
middle lane (of 3) and showering the road with grit.  I undertook it,
following a lorry, and back at home later hoovered up what grit I could find
and
washed off the front spoiler (it's readily removable with Dzuz fasteners).

The engine revs freely enough and I suspect it wil come up on the cam a lot
harder than the old cam did despite being a very similar grind.  I think  the
reason for this will be the way the cam has been timed - the old cam was
timed slightly mild as the optimum position fell between dowels on the timing
wheel.

Another reason for revving so freely is that the reciprocating weight
(mostly on the flywheel and clutch) is 1.6Kg approx lighter and the crank is
wedged
rather than just balanced.  The engine and installation is a further  4-5Kg
lighter still as the engine now has an aluminium alloy Pierce head.

So, everything about as it should be for a new engine. Did I mention this
engine has a W E S L A K E cast aluminium alloy rocker from the original
pattern.

Daniel1312

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun Dec 16 12:22:57 2007
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 11:22:57 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] First drive on new engine
In-Reply-To: <c5e.2639bffc.3496c0af@aol.com>
References: <c5e.2639bffc.3496c0af@aol.com>
Message-ID: <138932539.20071216112257@pacifier.com>

Hello Daniel1312,

       others who have done engine rebuilds will weigh in (never done
       one myself) but all the information that i pick up from
       EVERYWHERE is to break it in by driving it like you stole it!
       drive HARD, rev all the way up, shift do it again.. apparenlty,
       baby-ing during break in can and often does cause ridges to
       build up on the cylinder walls near the top of the throw.. if
       you haven't been red-lining it you may never be able to!




-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
   "66 Sprite
     "Who would want to steal modern art?" asked Tom abstractedly.

From Daniel1312 at aol.com  Sun Dec 16 13:29:55 2007
From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 15:29:55 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] First drive on new engine
Message-ID: <c31.20520623.3496e4c3@aol.com>

I am aware of that view and even read a long article on it.  However,  it 
only stands as 'good' advice for bedding in the rings and bores.  I've  read 
nothing that suggests it's a good practice for main or con-rod big end  bearings.
 
My previous engine was successfully revved to 7,500rpm on an almost weekly  
basis despite having a very steady run-in period.  That engine was once  
accidentally revved to 8,250 and survived.
 
The first 100 miles (actually 96) that the engine has been driven was done  
in accordance with the engine builders advice.  He has built a high number  of 
race winning engines as well as fast road engines.
 
Still, your view is as valid as anyone elses.
 
Regards
 
Daniel1312
 
In a message dated 16/12/2007 19:23:04 GMT Standard Time,  
pythias at pacifier.com writes:

Hello  Daniel1312,

others who have done engine  rebuilds will weigh in (never done
one myself)  but all the information that i pick up from
EVERYWHERE is to break it in by driving it like you stole it!
drive HARD, rev all the way up, shift do it again..  apparenlty,
baby-ing during break in can and  often does cause ridges to
build up on the  cylinder walls near the top of the throw.. if
you haven't been red-lining it you may never be able  to!

From dmg at bossig.com  Sun Dec 16 13:51:03 2007
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 12:51:03 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] First drive on new engine
In-Reply-To: <c31.20520623.3496e4c3@aol.com>
References: <c31.20520623.3496e4c3@aol.com>
Message-ID: <47651F37.19032.124E8AE@dmg.bossig.com>

FWIW...

Once, in an earlier life as a 'Brit', I bought a new Mini 1000 and a new 
Escort GT. I seem to remember that, in the owners manual,  it usually went 
something like this:---

Quoting from a bad memory!
"Do not exceed 30 mph for the first 100 miles. Graudally increase speed, in 
short bursts, until maximum speed is achieved at 1000 miles"

We used to put a small notice in the back window that read "Running In". to 
avoid some rather rude gestures from the frustrated dirvers behind you...
-
Dave G, KK7SS
'65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA

From Daniel1312 at aol.com  Sun Dec 16 14:05:41 2007
From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 16:05:41 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] First drive on new engine
Message-ID: <d4c.148d6077.3496ed25@aol.com>

That does sound familiar.  In my youth running in a rebuilt engine  involved 
a lot of 'short bursts'.  A 1000 miles is that I had mind but it  will 
probably need more than that before I put it in the dyno.  I usually  get comments 
like - in a few more thousands miles it will probably produce  another 5bhp+.
 
I was tempted to put a sign in the back saying 'running in, please pass'  but 
for 60mph and quick through the gears even changing at 3000rpm decided not  
to bother.
 
Did I forget to mention my W E S L A K E rocker cover in this post?
 
Regards
 
Daniel1312
 
 
In a message dated 16/12/2007 20:51:28 GMT Standard Time, dmg at bossig.com  
writes:

Graudally increase speed, in 
short bursts, until maximum speed is  achieved at 1000 miles"

We used to put a small notice in the back  window that read "Running In". 

From dmg at bossig.com  Sun Dec 16 14:21:12 2007
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 13:21:12 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] First drive on new engine
In-Reply-To: <d4c.148d6077.3496ed25@aol.com>
References: <d4c.148d6077.3496ed25@aol.com>
Message-ID: <47652648.1778.14085B6@dmg.bossig.com>

Daniel,

By any remote chance... did you happen across a W E S L A K E rocker 
cover during the rebuild???

On 16 Dec 2007 at 16:05, Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote:

>> Did I forget to mention my W E S L A K E rocker cover in this post?

-
Dave G, KK7SS
'65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun Dec 16 14:30:22 2007
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 13:30:22 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] First drive on new engine
In-Reply-To: <d4c.148d6077.3496ed25@aol.com>
References: <d4c.148d6077.3496ed25@aol.com>
Message-ID: <593379674.20071216133022@pacifier.com>

Hello Daniel1312,

       the other thing.. change OIL.. i like once at 200 miles again
       at 500 miles, once  at 1000 miles, once at 3000 miles .. .. to make SURE all the
       metal gets removed...


       my Two cents ...

       




-- 
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 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
   "66 Sprite
     "I'm about to hit the golf ball," Tom forewarned.

From Daniel1312 at aol.com  Sun Dec 16 15:09:01 2007
From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 17:09:01 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] First drive on new engine
Message-ID: <d17.1b5c4ca7.3496fbfd@aol.com>

Hi Bill,
 
I've never changed the oil before 500 miles before but follow the 500 with  a 
1000.  I always thought some of the bits in the oil was meant to help the  
wear in process?  Doesn't sound like to good advice does it?
 
What about filter changes - at (200), 500 and a 1000?
 
Regards
 
Daniel1312 - W E S L A K E 
 
In a message dated 16/12/2007 21:30:45 GMT Standard Time,  
pythias at pacifier.com writes:

Hello  Daniel1312,

the other thing.. change OIL.. i  like once at 200 miles again
at 500 miles,  once  at 1000 miles, once at 3000 miles .. .. to make SURE all 
 the
metal gets removed...


my Two cents ...






-- 
Best regards,
Bill         

From Daniel1312 at aol.com  Sun Dec 16 15:12:23 2007
From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 17:12:23 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] New engine runs
Message-ID: <c07.26dfb178.3496fcc7@aol.com>

Hi Frank,
 
I'm not expecting this engine to make much more power than the old one did  
in its prime.  The old engine ran 116 - 119mph (the latter that one time on  a 
gradient) but not with the small aerodynamic mods it has at present.  If  it 
pulls 120-122mph on the flat I'll be very happy.
 
Regards 
 
Daniel 'Weslake' 1312
 
In a message dated 15/12/2007 02:29:34 GMT Standard Time,  
spritenut at comcast.net writes:

The long  awaited engine finally breathes.
125 mph around the round about next time I  visit?
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Sun Dec 16 16:21:05 2007
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 15:21:05 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] OT: any Alfa Giulia lovers out there?
Message-ID: <CBD5F92D-5F71-4009-89B9-53EF48FDA212@gerardsgarage.com>

In case anyone is interested, this is a friend's car. He has spared  
absolutely no expense professionally restoring this car.

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/car/509775617.html

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Dec 16 17:25:30 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 18:25:30 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] New engine runs
In-Reply-To: <c07.26dfb178.3496fcc7@aol.com>
References: <c07.26dfb178.3496fcc7@aol.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712161625q33abe9ddnc6eaaa48227245ec@mail.gmail.com>

Daniel,

The blokes at the local constabulary are pretending they didn't read
that....   ;-)
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

On 12/16/07, Daniel1312 at aol.com <Daniel1312 at aol.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Frank,
>
> I'm not expecting this engine to make much more power than the old one did
> in its prime.  The old engine ran 116 - 119mph (the latter that one time
> on  a
> gradient) but not with the small aerodynamic mods it has at
> present.  If  it
> pulls 120-122mph on the flat I'll be very happy.
>
> Regards
>
> Daniel 'Weslake' 1312
>
> In a message dated 15/12/2007 02:29:34 GMT Standard Time,
> spritenut at comcast.net writes:
>
> The long  awaited engine finally breathes.
> 125 mph around the round about next time I  visit?
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> _

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Dec 16 17:38:00 2007
From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 18:38:00 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] First drive on new engine
References: <d17.1b5c4ca7.3496fbfd@aol.com>
Message-ID: <034d01c84045$141041f0$6501a8c0@actualshop>

Daniel:

Personally, after bedding cam in I go drive the 100 miles and change oil &
filter.

I also use an Oil Testing Lab to analyze EVERY oil change!!!

AMAZING what they can PREVENT!!!<G>

Ed
'63 AH BJ 7 (Hortense THE Healey wearing ORIGINAL Valve Cover !!!)

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Dec 16 18:39:33 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 20:39:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] First drive on new engine
In-Reply-To: <d17.1b5c4ca7.3496fbfd@aol.com>
References: <d17.1b5c4ca7.3496fbfd@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4765D355.3070606@comcast.net>

Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote:

> I've never changed the oil before 500 miles before but follow the 500 with  a 
> 1000. 

I change the oil after a 20 minute test run before I even drive the car, 
then 500 miles.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Sun Dec 16 21:08:24 2007
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 20:08:24 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Great Pics from Fleetweek
In-Reply-To: <c33.204da9e4.34960737@aol.com>
References: <c33.204da9e4.34960737@aol.com>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10712162008o5eed6812kb7de343722f0f92@mail.gmail.com>

Watch the video too.



 BZ's '07 San Francisco Fleetweek Photo
Gallery<http://home.comcast.net/~bzee1a/>
**
*http://home.comcast.net/~bzee1a/*

From lbc at littlebitcountry.com  Mon Dec 17 05:26:47 2007
From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 07:26:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Great Pics from Fleetweek
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10712162008o5eed6812kb7de343722f0f92@mail.gmail.com
  >
References: <c33.204da9e4.34960737@aol.com>
	<2ad6c6b10712162008o5eed6812kb7de343722f0f92@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071217072542.0476e1c8@littlebitcountry.com>

Great shots Herb.

Dave



At 11:08 PM 12/16/2007, you wrote:
>Watch the video too.
>
>
>
>  BZ's '07 San Francisco Fleetweek Photo
>Gallery<http://home.comcast.net/~bzee1a/>
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From nory1 at adelphia.net  Mon Dec 17 08:40:15 2007
From: nory1 at adelphia.net (Nory)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 10:40:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] For the Holidays (No LBC)
Message-ID: <062F4AC6-E846-47F4-BB0F-B8F830CC0453@adelphia.net>

For the holidays............

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type audio/mpeg which had a name of Rusty Chevrolet (Jingle Bells}.mp3]

From ricksnover at earthlink.net  Mon Dec 17 08:54:40 2007
From: ricksnover at earthlink.net (Rick Snover)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 07:54:40 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20071217074856.032e03c0@pop.earthlink.net>

Fellow Sprite owner and AHCSD member Chris Segal, his wife Karina, their 
dogs Rojo and Olive, and their '58 Bugeye (first place at SD British Car 
Day this year) were featured on "The Dog Whisperer" on the Natiional 
Geographic Channel this past Friday night. A portion of the segment, sadly 
not including the Sprite, is up on YouTube: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnzufLjYU1U

Rick
PS - If you're searching TV listings for a rerun, search for "Olive" in the 
show description.

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Mon Dec 17 08:56:24 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 09:56:24 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] For the Holidays (No LBC)
References: <062F4AC6-E846-47F4-BB0F-B8F830CC0453@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <0a0201c840c5$60773820$0401a8c0@midget>

> ...Rusty Chevrolet (Jingle Bells}.mp3

Yup, everyone needs Da Yoopers ;-)

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Mon Dec 17 08:57:10 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 09:57:10 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
References: <6.2.0.14.2.20071217074856.032e03c0@pop.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <0a0601c840c5$7bcf3050$0401a8c0@midget>

> PS - If you're searching TV listings for a rerun, search for "Olive" in 
> the
> show description.

As in "Olive, the other reindeer"? 

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Mon Dec 17 09:23:07 2007
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:23:07 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] For the Holidays (No LBC)
In-Reply-To: <0a0201c840c5$60773820$0401a8c0@midget>
References: <062F4AC6-E846-47F4-BB0F-B8F830CC0453@adelphia.net>
	<0a0201c840c5$60773820$0401a8c0@midget>
Message-ID: <69cq7p$25shv7@email.mtu.edu>

At 10:56 AM 12/17/2007, David Lieb wrote:
> > ...Rusty Chevrolet (Jingle Bells}.mp3
>
>Yup, everyone needs Da Yoopers ;-)

Yes, Da Yoopers claim that Green Bay is the capitol of the U.P. of Michigan!
http://www.dayoopers.com/
Check the pictures. World's largest chain saw. Flat bed mounted rifle. etc.

Tim Collins 

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Mon Dec 17 09:54:50 2007
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 10:54:50 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
References: <6.2.0.14.2.20071217074856.032e03c0@pop.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <000901c840cd$8a240970$c7a1bf46@personal>

Lovely work he does as always.


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> Fellow Sprite owner and AHCSD member Chris Segal, his wife Karina, their
> dogs Rojo and Olive, and their '58 Bugeye (first place at SD British Car
> Day this year) were featured on "The Dog Whisperer" on the Natiional
> Geographic Channel this past Friday night. A portion of the segment, sadly
> not including the Sprite, is up on YouTube:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnzufLjYU1U
>
> Rick
> PS - If you're searching TV listings for a rerun, search for "Olive" in 
> the
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Mon Dec 17 10:41:07 2007
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:41:07 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Class Action Lawyer needed
Message-ID: <e98d88090712170941w2e48be2y378a430d265554d8@mail.gmail.com>

If anyone knows someone that has the balls, to take on Nissan Motors, send
them my way.

Thanks

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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Mon Dec 17 11:07:26 2007
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester Ewing)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 12:07:26 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Great Pics from Fleetweek
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10712162008o5eed6812kb7de343722f0f92@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c33.204da9e4.34960737@aol.com>
	<2ad6c6b10712162008o5eed6812kb7de343722f0f92@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <73670732-87AF-4BBB-94E0-F1E4C93F8503@comcast.net>

This was our BZoom??  I would swear that the Blue Angels are not  
allowed to get that close to the deck.  Granted, I've only been  
watching them since '65 or so at Pensacola NAS..

Lester

.. just wanted to make sure that it wasn't photochopped...

On Dec 16, 2007, at 10:08 PM, WFO Herb wrote:

> Watch the video too.
>
>
>
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From froggi60 at gmail.com  Mon Dec 17 19:58:43 2007
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:58:43 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Great Pics from Fleetweek
In-Reply-To: <73670732-87AF-4BBB-94E0-F1E4C93F8503@comcast.net>
References: <c33.204da9e4.34960737@aol.com>
	<2ad6c6b10712162008o5eed6812kb7de343722f0f92@mail.gmail.com>
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It's San Francisco...they do things 'different' there!

On Dec 17, 2007 10:07 AM, Lester Ewing <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:

> This was our BZoom??  I would swear that the Blue Angels are not
> allowed to get that close to the deck.  Granted, I've only been
> watching them since '65 or so at Pensacola NAS..
>
> Lester
>
> .. just wanted to make sure that it wasn't photochopped...
>
> On Dec 16, 2007, at 10:08 PM, WFO Herb wrote:
>
> > Watch the video too.
> >
> >
> >
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From herby at herbytoys.com  Mon Dec 17 20:59:54 2007
From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 19:59:54 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Great Pics from Fleetweek
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10712162008o5eed6812kb7de343722f0f92@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c8412a$74184a80$6601a8c0@HERBYZ>

Awesome photo's!!! I remember years ago (back when Feinstein was mayor) my
wife and I were in SF standing on Market Street looking down toward the bay
when we saw this blue streak going knife edge at what looked like the 10th
story level. We were awestruck. They also broke some windows that year.
People complained but most everyone wanted them back.

I like the F16 shot too. May be some of our AB flaps in there!  

Herby
63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting)
62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver)
00 Dakota R/T (the new toy)
herby at herbytoys.com
www.herbytoys.com

-----Original Message-----
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WFO Herb
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 8:08 PM
To: Ed's Spridgeteers; Spridgeteers
Subject: [Spridgets] Great Pics from Fleetweek

Watch the video too.



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From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net  Mon Dec 17 21:33:26 2007
From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:33:26 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite Tranny
Message-ID: <004601c8412f$22fe0400$f675fea9@p0k7l8>

Hi guys,

Looking for some info on parts, possibly for the Sebring.  Specifically
gearbox parts.  I have a set of NOS gears that I'm unable to identify that
might be for that car,  but I can't locate any part numbers relating to a
particular car.  Have the numbers on the parts, but that's all.

OK to contact me off list if you care to.

Regards, Paul A

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Tue Dec 18 00:01:20 2007
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 07:01:20 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] First drive on new engine
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV118AA0F9C6B90CF18349EC8630@phx.gbl>

As suggested by mfgr. in original owner's
handbook. 

"Ridges" don't form for many miles. But before you've got 3-5k, do some WOT 
accelerations to redline in 2nd/3rd gear. 

Otherwise, you can minimize the metal loss to internal parts during breakin by "rubbing" them against one another with "normal" loading ("burnishing") or you can maximize metal loss ("tearing off") during break-in by un-necessarily FORCING them against one another by "loading" heavily (WOT accelerations or "lugging").

Of course, if you can easily R&R motors yourself and/or do your own engine rebuilding, or pay others to do it and don't
mind most likely spending more money than you have to sooner than you need to, drive the hell out of it during "break-in". :):)

Mfg. recommends to vary rpm's constantly
during the first 500 miles. In the owner's
handbook.

Not in the owner's handbook: Keep the runs on the short side during the first
500 miles allowing the motor to "cycle"
(warm/cool between runs).

Drain the oil and change the filter after the
first 100 miles when oil contamination with metal particles will normally be greatest. No sense un-necessarily circulating RELATIVELY heavily contaminated (metal particles) oil through the internals for no
good reason ("cheap insurance" so to speak).

CapBob 

P.S. - The less metal you "take off" of interal parts during break-in, the longer serviceable clearances between parts will exist, all other factors being/remaining equal.

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Tue Dec 18 10:47:53 2007
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester Ewing)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:47:53 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Convertible top purchase??
Message-ID: <521CB8D9-4471-466B-8331-52173DB78BB1@comcast.net>

.. and the reason that I shouldn't buy this is???

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150195422726

Or is there a better way to go?

Lester

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue Dec 18 10:56:17 2007
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:56:17 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Convertible top purchase??
In-Reply-To: <521CB8D9-4471-466B-8331-52173DB78BB1@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <C38D49C1.134ED%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> reason that I shouldn't buy this is???
Because tops are for sissies?

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Tue Dec 18 11:05:30 2007
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester Ewing)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:05:30 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Convertible top purchase??
In-Reply-To: <C38D49C1.134ED%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C38D49C1.134ED%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <5A9369E3-D53E-4C14-B9A9-D204E3FA9C62@comcast.net>

Ok, other than that... let me ask if there are better manufacturers or  
suppliers...

Lester

Geeeze..  I just use it to keep the rat poo off the interior.. ;-)



On Dec 18, 2007, at 11:56 AM, Billy Zoom wrote:

>> reason that I shouldn't buy this is???
> Because tops are for sissies?

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Tue Dec 18 12:12:15 2007
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:12:15 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Convertible top purchase??
In-Reply-To: <5A9369E3-D53E-4C14-B9A9-D204E3FA9C62@comcast.net>
References: <C38D49C1.134ED%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<5A9369E3-D53E-4C14-B9A9-D204E3FA9C62@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <441250190712181112s3cfe6f4eqa1ca7ce52fc341f4@mail.gmail.com>

That must be some really tall rats.

On Dec 18, 2007 10:05 AM, Lester Ewing <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:

> Ok, other than that... let me ask if there are better manufacturers or
> suppliers...
>
> Lester
>
> Geeeze..  I just use it to keep the rat poo off the interior.. ;-)
>
>
>
> On Dec 18, 2007, at 11:56 AM, Billy Zoom wrote:
>
> >> reason that I shouldn't buy this is???
> > Because tops are for sissies?
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Tue Dec 18 12:20:55 2007
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester Ewing)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:20:55 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Convertible top purchase??
In-Reply-To: <441250190712181112s3cfe6f4eqa1ca7ce52fc341f4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C38D49C1.134ED%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<5A9369E3-D53E-4C14-B9A9-D204E3FA9C62@comcast.net>
	<441250190712181112s3cfe6f4eqa1ca7ce52fc341f4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3A5F586E-CFFA-49F3-8EB5-B36F26EF9F7A@comcast.net>

Not tall, they just have the tactical advantage of the beams for the  
ceiling..  at least I hope that they aren't that tall..

Lester

On Dec 18, 2007, at 1:12 PM, Bill Gilroy wrote:

> That must be some really tall rats.
>
> On Dec 18, 2007 10:05 AM, Lester Ewing <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:
> Ok, other than that... let me ask if there are better manufacturers or
> suppliers...
>
> Lester
>
> Geeeze..  I just use it to keep the rat poo off the interior.. ;-)
>
>
>
> On Dec 18, 2007, at 11:56 AM, Billy Zoom wrote:
>
> >> reason that I shouldn't buy this is???
> > Because tops are for sissies?
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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Tue Dec 18 12:16:31 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:16:31 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Convertible top purchase??
References: <521CB8D9-4471-466B-8331-52173DB78BB1@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <0a8101c841ab$2b06fb30$0401a8c0@midget>

If you are just keeping the rat poo off, get a cockpit cover. They keep the 
car cooler in the sunshine, too. Also less than half the current bid on that 
top. It will also fit, which is always an issue with an old top that has 
been sitting around for years. OTOH, the one in the ad says it does Mach 
1...
David Lieb

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 18 13:44:06 2007
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:44:06 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite Tranny
In-Reply-To: <004601c8412f$22fe0400$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
References: <004601c8412f$22fe0400$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10712181244h4962dd2dh3f1fb78955bcf6c0@mail.gmail.com>

Did you contact Tom Colby?

On Dec 17, 2007 8:33 PM, Paul Asgeirsson <PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net>
wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> Looking for some info on parts, possibly for the Sebring.  Specifically
> gearbox parts.  I have a set of NOS gears that I'm unable to identify that
> might be for that car,  but I can't locate any part numbers relating to a
> particular car.  Have the numbers on the parts, but that's all.
>
> OK to contact me off list if you care to.
>
> Regards, Paul A
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From dwramsey at att.net  Tue Dec 18 14:30:39 2007
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:30:39 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Convertible top purchase??
In-Reply-To: <521CB8D9-4471-466B-8331-52173DB78BB1@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20071218213211.A7C78187A9B@autox.team.net>

For not that much more you could get a NIB Robbins top.  I like their "Sail
cloth" material, and it would come with the lift-a-dot and tenex snaps.
		Crash


.. and the reason that I shouldn't buy this is???

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150195422726

Or is there a better way to go?

Lester

From millerls at ado13.com  Tue Dec 18 16:28:31 2007
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:28:31 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Rose Joint/Rod End/Heim joint
Message-ID: <031101c841cd$b42f9ee0$c90e0618@HP>

Anybody know where I can find this type of Rose Joint? 
http://tinyurl.com/2v9ja6

It is the type that allows removal of the ball.

Have searched the web and this is the only one that I have found. Problem is 
that every joint of this type shows up on a search so there is a lot of crap 
to wade through.

Larry

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 18 17:36:50 2007
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:36:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Wow! (future LBC)
Message-ID: <554999.40181.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Two unexpected and unexplained miracles occurred
today:

1) The contractor finally finished the new workshop,
10 weeks into a 3 week job (it's beautiful, I must
admit).

2) Keith Richards turned 64.

In the "expected" department, the garage was buttoned
up for about 9 minutes and the tax assessor showed up.

Cheers,
Ron


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From froggi60 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 18 18:11:22 2007
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:11:22 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Convertible top purchase??
In-Reply-To: <20071218213211.A7C78187A9B@autox.team.net>
References: <521CB8D9-4471-466B-8331-52173DB78BB1@comcast.net>
	<20071218213211.A7C78187A9B@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10712181711w78c5a642odc2f947961eec7b5@mail.gmail.com>

Lester,

I have a brand new, still in the box top...Addco I think.  I purchased it
(new) in '76.

However...if I were to put a top on my Bugeye that I expected to be
'serviceable', I'd buy a new one.

Age causes vinyl and plastics to become brittle, shrink at different
rates, even when not exposed to sun and elements.

Just my two-cents.

Herb

On Dec 18, 2007 1:30 PM, David Ramsey <dwramsey at att.net> wrote:

> For not that much more you could get a NIB Robbins top.  I like their
> "Sail
> cloth" material, and it would come with the lift-a-dot and tenex snaps.
>                Crash
>
>
> .. and the reason that I shouldn't buy this is???
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150195422726
>
> Or is there a better way to go?
>
> Lester
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue Dec 18 18:21:03 2007
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:21:03 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Rose Joint/Rod End/Heim joint
In-Reply-To: <031101c841cd$b42f9ee0$c90e0618@HP>
Message-ID: <C38DB1FF.13514%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> the type that allows removal of the ball.
I can put you in touch with my ex.

From shelden3 at pldi.net  Tue Dec 18 18:21:22 2007
From: shelden3 at pldi.net (Charlie Shelden)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 19:21:22 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Heating the LBC workshop
Message-ID: <005601c841dd$775fbd00$6601a8c0@housexemkv1xcx>

Hey has anyone out there in the cold climates used one of the 55gal barrel
stove kits?  I have an abundance of firewood and have been using a small
propane IR type heater for my 24x30 workspace.  Tractor Supply had the kit for
19.00 less the barrel and pipe so I bought it.  Any experiances? Good bad?

Thought it might help keep the shop warm so I want to go out on these cool
nights.

Charlie

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From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net  Wed Dec 19 06:34:16 2007
From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 05:34:16 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Rose Joint/Rod End/Heim joint
References: <031101c841cd$b42f9ee0$c90e0618@HP>
Message-ID: <008301c84243$daf090e0$f675fea9@p0k7l8>

Hi Larry,

Nearly all major Bearing houses stock these in several grades and
configurations.  I use these in several applications on The Morrises.  I get
them made in a configuration that's stock, but no one stocks them!!!  Bonus
for me!

Later, Paul A



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry & Sandi Miller" <millerls at ado13.com>
To: "Spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 3:28 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Rose Joint/Rod End/Heim joint


> Anybody know where I can find this type of Rose Joint?
> http://tinyurl.com/2v9ja6
>
> It is the type that allows removal of the ball.
>
> Have searched the web and this is the only one that I have found. Problem
is
> that every joint of this type shows up on a search so there is a lot of
crap
> to wade through.
>
> Larry
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From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net  Wed Dec 19 07:49:33 2007
From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 06:49:33 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Wow! (future LBC)
References: <554999.40181.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00d301c8424e$5f499800$f675fea9@p0k7l8>

Great that it's finished and ahead of schedule!

A POX on the tax assesor!!

Paul A

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 4:36 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Wow! (future LBC)


> Two unexpected and unexplained miracles occurred
> today:
>
> 1) The contractor finally finished the new workshop,
> 10 weeks into a 3 week job (it's beautiful, I must
> admit).
>
> 2) Keith Richards turned 64.
>
> In the "expected" department, the garage was buttoned
> up for about 9 minutes and the tax assessor showed up.
>
> Cheers,
> Ron
>
>
>
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From davegran at ticon.net  Tue Dec 18 19:59:54 2007
From: davegran at ticon.net (Dave Grandeffo)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:59:54 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] First drive on new engine
References: <mailman.8.1198004402.6074.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <4768892A.7810@ticon.net>

http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

-- 
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www.kettlemorainemotorsports.com
Southern Wisconsin
USA

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Tue Dec 18 20:38:59 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:38:59 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Heating the LBC workshop
In-Reply-To: <005601c841dd$775fbd00$6601a8c0@housexemkv1xcx>
References: <005601c841dd$775fbd00$6601a8c0@housexemkv1xcx>
Message-ID: <064b01c841f0$b726a9e0$2573fda0$@com>

Charlie,

The real benefit of a cast iron stove vs. a barrel stove is residual heat.
The cast iron radiates heat a lot longer after the logs are burned up.

WST

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Charlie Shelden
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 7:21 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Heating the LBC workshop

Hey has anyone out there in the cold climates used one of the 55gal barrel
stove kits?  I have an abundance of firewood and have been using a small
propane IR type heater for my 24x30 workspace.  Tractor Supply had the kit
for
19.00 less the barrel and pipe so I bought it.  Any experiances? Good bad?

Thought it might help keep the shop warm so I want to go out on these cool
nights.

Charlie

--

From shelden3 at pldi.net  Tue Dec 18 20:41:44 2007
From: shelden3 at pldi.net (Charlie Shelden)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:41:44 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Heating the LBC workshop
References: <005601c841dd$775fbd00$6601a8c0@housexemkv1xcx>
	<064b01c841f0$b726a9e0$2573fda0$@com>
Message-ID: <00b601c841f1$1327fa50$6601a8c0@housexemkv1xcx>

That I do know as we heat our home with a cast iron wood insert, my thought 
was to put a 30gal barrel inside this one and fill it with masonary sand or 
about 1/2 or so, as It would have some mass at that point, so the fire would 
burn on the inner barrel and then go to the chimney.  Make sense?  I have a 
propane heater that heats the area you are working in VERY well, this kit 
was on sale so thought humm why not try it.

Charlie

all very good comments.


> Charlie,
>
> The real benefit of a cast iron stove vs. a barrel stove is residual heat.
> The cast iron radiates heat a lot longer after the logs are burned up.
>
> WST
>
> 

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From wsthompson at thicko.com  Tue Dec 18 20:54:56 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:54:56 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Heating the LBC workshop
In-Reply-To: <00b601c841f1$1327fa50$6601a8c0@housexemkv1xcx>
References: <005601c841dd$775fbd00$6601a8c0@housexemkv1xcx>
	<064b01c841f0$b726a9e0$2573fda0$@com>
	<00b601c841f1$1327fa50$6601a8c0@housexemkv1xcx>
Message-ID: <065101c841f2$f0dc0020$d2940060$@com>

Charlie,

I have a Vermont Casting stove in the living room of my old house in IL.

Our farm house in WI has 2 furnaces... side by side. One oil, the other
wood. Both are tied into the fan & ducting of the house. The firebrick in
the wood furnace really holds heat. Some firebrick in your barrel stove
might be a good addition.

Oh, and burn hardwood.

WST

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Charlie Shelden
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:42 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Heating the LBC workshop

That I do know as we heat our home with a cast iron wood insert, my thought 
was to put a 30gal barrel inside this one and fill it with masonary sand or 
about 1/2 or so, as It would have some mass at that point, so the fire would

burn on the inner barrel and then go to the chimney.  Make sense?  I have a 
propane heater that heats the area you are working in VERY well, this kit 
was on sale so thought humm why not try it.

Charlie

all very good comments.


> Charlie,
>
> The real benefit of a cast iron stove vs. a barrel stove is residual heat.
> The cast iron radiates heat a lot longer after the logs are burned up.
>
> WST
>
> 

-- 

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 18 21:34:24 2007
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:34:24 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Heating the LBC workshop
In-Reply-To: <005601c841dd$775fbd00$6601a8c0@housexemkv1xcx>
Message-ID: <231589.71188.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Charlie,
   
  If it is the same as the one i had. They cook. 
   
  Mine had a double barrel.
   
  The bottom was used to burn and had a reinforced bottom. It also had a copper coil that ran under the grade. The copper tube was to heat water for showers and washing. It circulated water from the barrel the was mounted in the shed out side. It was mounted on a self by the roof. So any time we had a fires . Which was every day. We had hot water. The top barrel looked like a donut and had a baffle so the heat took the long way to the exit pipe. There was a flue for the baffle in the pipe that ran up the center. After it was going you turned the handle and stand back. My friend had a two year old and was worried about her getting burnt. She walk about ten feet from the heater and turned around. Hot is not the word for that heater. Blazing is more like it. It heated a 1500 sq ft cabin with no problem. I think they called it a Alaskan oil can heater. i bought it in Idaho from a local guy that made them. For a shop i would go for a little potbelly. It has a flat place to put
 the pan with water and should do just fine.   
   
  Vigil

Charlie Shelden <shelden3 at pldi.net> wrote:
  Hey has anyone out there in the cold climates used one of the 55gal barrel
stove kits? I have an abundance of firewood and have been using a small
propane IR type heater for my 24x30 workspace. Tractor Supply had the kit for
19.00 less the barrel and pipe so I bought it. Any experiances? Good bad?

Thought it might help keep the shop warm so I want to go out on these cool
nights.

Charlie

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From shelden3 at pldi.net  Tue Dec 18 21:50:17 2007
From: shelden3 at pldi.net (Charlie Shelden)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:50:17 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Heating the LBC workshop
References: <231589.71188.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00e201c841fa$a74d0050$6601a8c0@housexemkv1xcx>

Sounds similar, the same company makes a kit to attach a second barrel to the
top so you can get more heat, my shop is only 24x30 so it won't take a whole
bunch.  THis is most likely over kill to be sure, but I'm off for two weeks
and plan to spend some time in the shop with the car thought why pay for
propane if I can build this thing for less than 50.00.  I plan to put castors
on it and roll it under my bench in the summer as floor space is always
needed.  I bet it burns me out of there to be sure.

Charlie

  If it is the same as the one i had. They cook.

  Mine had a double barrel.

  earch.

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From hal at katemuir.com  Tue Dec 18 20:51:35 2007
From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 19:51:35 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] '67 Sprite FS.  Could be a good deal. NFI, etc.
Message-ID: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFGEOIFHAA.hal@katemuir.com>

Looks like a good "easy" project.  No mention of condition of engine/tranny.
Frank, this could be your '67!! (although it's a bit overpriced for you.)
located near Sacramento, CA
http://tinyurl.com/yora78

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Wed Dec 19 00:34:05 2007
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 23:34:05 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC: Hold my beer and watch this
Message-ID: <441250190712182334yc71d8ddlec672f16bb3b1896@mail.gmail.com>

http://video.cardomain.com/Clip.aspx?key=A51E3A2E1666EAA5&ctx=feat

From dwramsey at att.net  Wed Dec 19 01:21:26 2007
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 00:21:26 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] '67 Sprite FS.  Could be a good deal. NFI, etc.
In-Reply-To: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFGEOIFHAA.hal@katemuir.com>
Message-ID: <20071219082257.47B541879BD@autox.team.net>

They did mention that the engine/tranny was out of the car, just not how far
out it was.
		Crash 


Looks like a good "easy" project.  No mention of condition of engine/tranny.
Frank, this could be your '67!! (although it's a bit overpriced for you.)
located near Sacramento, CA
http://tinyurl.com/yora78

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Wed Dec 19 01:36:05 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 00:36:05 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Can't afford the car of your dreams?
Message-ID: <4768D7F5.2060002@earthlink.net>

Here's the answer!!!

http://tinyurl.com/2xlwvn

From shelden3 at pldi.net  Wed Dec 19 04:08:03 2007
From: shelden3 at pldi.net (Charlie Shelden)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 05:08:03 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Heating the LBC workshop
References: <231589.71188.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<00e201c841fa$a74d0050$6601a8c0@housexemkv1xcx>
	<43840a7e0712182239n38a8ecd9k70466a6b00973b09@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <010a01c8422f$6ce39750$6601a8c0@housexemkv1xcx>

It is all reletive my friend...LOL.  Banana trees??  Humm maybe down by brads
place.  If we had some here well they got covered in ice last week and broke
over.  Now Dodge that is where you don't need one haahaa.



  A stove??!! C'mon, Charlie!  You live in Oklahoma!  You don't even have to
cover the banana trees down there in the winter!  ;-)


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From davegran at ticon.net  Wed Dec 19 03:57:20 2007
From: davegran at ticon.net (Dave Grandeffo)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 04:57:20 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Heating the LBC workshop
Message-ID: <4768F910.1270@ticon.net>

Charlie Shelden wrote:

> Sounds similar, the same company makes a kit to attach a second barrel to the
> top so you can get more heat, my shop is only 24x30 so it won't take a whole
> bunch.  THis is most likely over kill to be sure, but I'm off for two weeks
> and plan to spend some time in the shop with the car thought why pay for
> propane if I can build this thing for less than 50.00.  I plan to put castors
> on it and roll it under my bench in the summer as floor space is always
> needed.  I bet it burns me out of there to be sure.
> 
> Charlie
> 


If you install the second barrel, it will increase the efficiency of the
stove and allow you to throttle it back more and not have to fill it as
often.

-- 
Dave Grandeffo
www.kettlemorainemotorsports.com
Southern Wisconsin
USA

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Wed Dec 19 05:27:18 2007
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 07:27:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Heating the LBC workshop
In-Reply-To: <005601c841dd$775fbd00$6601a8c0@housexemkv1xcx>
References: <005601c841dd$775fbd00$6601a8c0@housexemkv1xcx>
Message-ID: <69cq7p$26dmbc@email.mtu.edu>

Charlie,
I've had a wood stove in my garage. I found it took a lot of floor 
space first because a 55 gal drum is fairly big and then you need to 
maintain clearances around the stove for safety. Your propane heater 
probably takes much less space and can be moved around as needed. You 
don't have to go out and cut down (then cut up) propane for fuel - 
that's a consideration too. Propane is easier to store and not as 
messy to store. I once lived at a house that had a sauna with a 55 
gal drum heater - in a room about 6 x 6 feet. When your skin pealed 
back like a birch tree you knew the sauna was ready. Stay with the 
propane in your shop.
Tim

At 08:21 PM 12/18/2007, Charlie Shelden wrote:
>Hey has anyone out there in the cold climates used one of the 55gal barrel
>stove kits?

Tim Collins 

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Wed Dec 19 05:29:20 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 06:29:20 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Heating the LBC workshop
In-Reply-To: <4768F910.1270@ticon.net>
References: <4768F910.1270@ticon.net>
Message-ID: <06e801c8423a$cc2f56d0$648e0470$@com>

I think you can get a small cast iron stove at Fleet Farm for maybe $150?

If you choose something too large for your space, you spend far too much
time managing your heat source rather than working on your projects in your
shop.

A "too Large" stove ends up being throttled back constantly. This produces a
lot of smoke... a LOT of smoke. Not sure how far away your neighbors are,
but it might be an issue.

Also, it increases the creosote buildup in your chimney, which also
increases the chance of a chimney fire.(You do NOT want a chimney fire.)

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Dave Grandeffo
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:57 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Heating the LBC workshop

Charlie Shelden wrote:

> Sounds similar, the same company makes a kit to attach a second barrel to
the
> top so you can get more heat, my shop is only 24x30 so it won't take a
whole
> bunch.  THis is most likely over kill to be sure, but I'm off for two
weeks
> and plan to spend some time in the shop with the car thought why pay for
> propane if I can build this thing for less than 50.00.  I plan to put
castors
> on it and roll it under my bench in the summer as floor space is always
> needed.  I bet it burns me out of there to be sure.
> 
> Charlie
> 


If you install the second barrel, it will increase the efficiency of the
stove and allow you to throttle it back more and not have to fill it as
often.

-- 
Dave Grandeffo
www.kettlemorainemotorsports.com
Southern Wisconsin

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Wed Dec 19 05:33:05 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 06:33:05 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Heating the LBC workshop
In-Reply-To: <06e801c8423a$cc2f56d0$648e0470$@com>
References: <4768F910.1270@ticon.net>
  <06e801c8423a$cc2f56d0$648e0470$@com>
Message-ID: <06e901c8423b$4f50acd0$edf20670$@com>

http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2099067

From dmeadow at juno.com  Wed Dec 19 05:55:15 2007
From: dmeadow at juno.com (dmeadow at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 06:55:15 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Heating the LBC workshop
Message-ID: <20071219.065515.1960.2.dmeadow@juno.com>

Formula for heating the LBC workshop:

Take one well-insulated garage.
Take one 2004 Corvette.  Drive vigorously.
Mix.

Well, works in Houston winters, anyway :).

-David Littlefield

From peter at nosimport.com  Wed Dec 19 07:41:25 2007
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:41:25 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Heating the LBC workshop
In-Reply-To: <005601c841dd$775fbd00$6601a8c0@housexemkv1xcx>
References: <005601c841dd$775fbd00$6601a8c0@housexemkv1xcx>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071219083734.03a49c30@nosimport.com>

Charlie,
         I've had experience with several wood stoves. The barrel 
ones are good.

         HOWEVER.... I would be more than VERY reluctant to use one 
anywhere near a car workshop.
         There are just too many fumes crawling around the floor. I 
would not endorse any kind of open flame, in fact.

         But then, I'm cautious.

         But then I've also lost everything to fire.  Devastating.

Peter C.
=========


At 07:21 PM 12/18/2007, Charlie Shelden wrote:

>Hey has anyone out there in the cold climates used one of the 55gal barrel
>stove kits?  I have an abundance of firewood and have been using a small
>propane IR type heater for my 24x30 workspace.  Tractor Supply had the kit for
>19.00 less the barrel and pipe so I bought it.  Any experiances? Good bad?
>
>Thought it might help keep the shop warm so I want to go out on these cool
>nights.
>
>Charlie
>
>-

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Dec 19 07:58:58 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:58:58 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Heating the LBC workshop
Message-ID: <BAY112-F3677329E7F2B0526B8CB51B85C0@phx.gbl>

Not 'everything' ... only material possessions. ;)

>From: Peter C <peter at nosimport.com>
>
>Charlie,
>          I've had experience with several wood stoves. The barrel
>ones are good.
>
>          HOWEVER.... I would be more than VERY reluctant to use one
>anywhere near a car workshop.
>          There are just too many fumes crawling around the floor. I
>would not endorse any kind of open flame, in fact.
>
>          But then, I'm cautious.
>
>          But then I've also lost everything to fire.  Devastating.
>
>Peter C.
>=========
>
>
>At 07:21 PM 12/18/2007, Charlie Shelden wrote:
>
> >Hey has anyone out there in the cold climates used one of the 55gal 
>barrel
> >stove kits?  I have an abundance of firewood and have been using a small
> >propane IR type heater for my 24x30 workspace.  Tractor Supply had the 
>kit for
> >19.00 less the barrel and pipe so I bought it.  Any experiances? Good 
>bad?
> >
> >Thought it might help keep the shop warm so I want to go out on these 
>cool
> >nights.
> >
> >Charlie

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Wed Dec 19 08:02:07 2007
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 9:02:07 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Heating the LBC workshop
Message-ID: <14387075.2451951198076527890.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web20-z01>

We had one years ago and although it works, it is not long lasting.  We had a run in after a year or so with a seam that split and only appeared after stoking it up.  It was a mess.

Chris


---- Peter C <peter at nosimport.com> wrote: 
> Charlie,
>          I've had experience with several wood stoves. The barrel 
> ones are good.
> 
>          HOWEVER.... I would be more than VERY reluctant to use one 
> anywhere near a car workshop.
>          There are just too many fumes crawling around the floor. I 
> would not endorse any kind of open flame, in fact.
> 
>          But then, I'm cautious.
> 
>          But then I've also lost everything to fire.  Devastating.
> 
> Peter C.
> =========
> 
> 
> At 07:21 PM 12/18/2007, Charlie Shelden wrote:
> 
> >Hey has anyone out there in the cold climates used one of the 55gal barrel
> >stove kits?  I have an abundance of firewood and have been using a small
> >propane IR type heater for my 24x30 workspace.  Tractor Supply had the kit for
> >19.00 less the barrel and pipe so I bought it.  Any experiances? Good bad?
> >
> >Thought it might help keep the shop warm so I want to go out on these cool
> >nights.
> >
> >Charlie

From peter at nosimport.com  Wed Dec 19 08:07:33 2007
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:07:33 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Heating the LBC workshop
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F3677329E7F2B0526B8CB51B85C0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-F3677329E7F2B0526B8CB51B85C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071219090630.03ae8440@nosimport.com>

True, but it kicks the s%^t out of you, and you lose "something"


At 08:58 AM 12/19/2007, Robert Duquette wrote:

>Not 'everything' ... only material possessions. ;)

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed Dec 19 08:08:34 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:08:34 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Heating the LBC workshop
References: <14387075.2451951198076527890.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web20-z01>
Message-ID: <001c01c84251$064a3590$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>

> We had one years ago and although it works, it is not long lasting.  We 
> had a run in after a year or so with a seam that split and only appeared 
> after stoking it up.  It was a mess.

Sounds like you were running a little lean... did you try turning the jet 
down a couple flats?
Anon 

From type79 at ix.netcom.com  Wed Dec 19 08:16:38 2007
From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:16:38 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [Spridgets] Heating the LBC workshop
Message-ID: <32265382.1198077398706.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

The loss of material possessions is inconsequential next to the accompanying fear and guilt (for those that feel they could have prevented the fire). In addition, there is the great loss of the time spent during the restoration process or worse, the rebuilding process, and the need to replace personal property. Basically the family's lives are put on hold for 6 months to a year and sometimes more. 

Few can't comprehend the scenario of losing literally EVERYTHING.

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/

-----Original Message-----
>From: Peter C <peter at nosimport.com>
>Sent: Dec 19, 2007 10:07 AM
>To: Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>, spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Heating the LBC workshop
>
>True, but it kicks the s%^t out of you, and you lose "something"
>
>
>At 08:58 AM 12/19/2007, Robert Duquette wrote:
>
>>Not 'everything' ... only material possessions. ;)

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Dec 19 08:24:43 2007
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester Ewing)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:24:43 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Convertible top purchase??
In-Reply-To: <4769311C.6020201@srvinet.com>
References: <C38D49C1.134ED%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<5A9369E3-D53E-4C14-B9A9-D204E3FA9C62@comcast.net>
	<4769311C.6020201@srvinet.com>
Message-ID: <D5B29CC6-2EF2-49E0-885D-95E6FD91E4E0@comcast.net>

 From this Heritage?

http://www.heritagetrim.com/

These are the folks who charged a premium price for an average  
product, provided little to no support, and that was incorrect.  Poor  
carpet fit front and rear, poor padding fit..  I mean it was a  
nightmare.. no, it *is* a nightmare.  I certainly will never deal with  
these folks again.

Perhaps there is another Heritage out there..

lester


On Dec 19, 2007, at 8:56 AM, vern at srvinet.com wrote:

> Lester:  I have to put in my vote for Heritage.  They have
> a great product and must absorb most of the shipping. I got a  
> complete interior and top and shipping from
> Great Britain was only $30. as I recall.
> Vern
>
> Lester Ewing wrote:
>
>> Ok, other than that... let me ask if there are better manufacturers  
>> or  suppliers...
>>
>> Lester
>>
>> Geeeze..  I just use it to keep the rat poo off the interior.. ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 18, 2007, at 11:56 AM, Billy Zoom wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> reason that I shouldn't buy this is???
>>>>
>>> Because tops are for sissies?
>>>
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> 78 MGB 79 midget RB at:
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Dec 19 08:30:49 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:30:49 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] '67 Sprite FS. Could be a good deal. NFI, etc.
In-Reply-To: <20071219082257.47B541879BD@autox.team.net>
References: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFGEOIFHAA.hal@katemuir.com>
	<20071219082257.47B541879BD@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712190730w2797671an22079ac0ba116a95@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/19/07, David Ramsey <dwramsey at att.net> wrote:
>
> They did mention that the engine/tranny was out of the car, just not how
> far
> out it was.
>                 Crash

Or whether they are still colocated with the car and in good
condition....    ;-)
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Dec 19 09:07:26 2007
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester Ewing)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:07:26 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Convertible top purchase??
In-Reply-To: <521CB8D9-4471-466B-8331-52173DB78BB1@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <45B2D7A8-36F8-4963-85DE-5B00E78541C4@comcast.net>

.. and who sells Robbins tops??

Mr. Robbins??  sorry..  couldn't resist..  so really, who sells them..

Lester


On Dec 18, 2007, at 3:30 PM, David Ramsey wrote:

> For not that much more you could get a NIB Robbins top.  I like  
> their "Sail
> cloth" material, and it would come with the lift-a-dot and tenex  
> snaps.
> 		Crash
>
>
> .. and the reason that I shouldn't buy this is???
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150195422726
>
> Or is there a better way to go?
>
> Lester

From type79 at ix.netcom.com  Wed Dec 19 09:12:52 2007
From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:12:52 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [Spridgets] Convertible top purchase??
Message-ID: <27869216.1198080772045.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=robbins+tops&btnG=Google+Search

-----Original Message-----
>From: Lester Ewing <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
>Sent: Dec 19, 2007 11:07 AM
>To: David Ramsey <dwramsey at att.net>
>Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Convertible top purchase??
>
>.. and who sells Robbins tops??
>
>Mr. Robbins??  sorry..  couldn't resist..  so really, who sells them..
>
>Lester

From type79 at ix.netcom.com  Wed Dec 19 09:14:38 2007
From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:14:38 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [Spridgets] Convertible top purchase??
Message-ID: <10361936.1198080878722.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=robbins+tops&btnG=Google+Search

>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Lester Ewing <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
>>Sent: Dec 19, 2007 11:07 AM
>>To: David Ramsey <dwramsey at att.net>
>>Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
>>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Convertible top purchase??
>>
>>.. and who sells Robbins tops??
>>
>>Mr. Robbins??  sorry..  couldn't resist..  so really, who sells them..
>>
>>Lester

From lists at woozy.com  Wed Dec 19 09:53:00 2007
From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:53:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Can't afford the car of your dreams?
In-Reply-To: <4768D7F5.2060002@earthlink.net>
References: <4768D7F5.2060002@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <47694C6C.2010609@woozy.com>

There's more here including a video:

http://www.maxhydemotors.com/mkii.html

Robert


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>
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Dec 19 09:48:54 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:48:54 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Heating the LBC workshop
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20071219090630.03ae8440@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F2984C82F8090230BE894DAB85C0@phx.gbl>

True enough.  I haven't had the pleasure of losing all material possessions, 
but I have had a basement flood with the associated renovation.  That was 
horrible!  People practically living in your house for 2 months; figuring 
out the insurance claim; decisions on how to do things since you now have a 
choice; juggling contractors; permanent loss of personal items that you 
never would have disposed of; expense; etc.  I have a glimmer of what losing 
'everything' could be like, but I don't know for sure.

I rolled my MGB over an embankment with passengers in it and landed upside 
down.  We all probably should have died, but we all walked away.  I'll never 
forget what could have happened because of my actions.

And, I lost my brother to someone else's bad driving.  I would gladly trade 
all of my worldly possessions to have him back.

What happens to us in life does change us.  Oh, to young and innocent again! 
  I've had it kicked out of me a few times, but people still tell me I'm 
full of it.  ;)

On a slightly different note, last night I got home to find that I have ice 
dams on my roof and water running through the ceiling in to the family room. 
  I had to climb out the 2nd floor bathroom window and shovel 5 feet of snow 
to get a place to work.  Then got a ladder and I hacked at the ice on the 
roof with the backside of an axe until I couldn't feel my fingers anymore.  
Then I went downstairs to find our geriatric dog had crapped in the house.  
I got to clean that up.  Then my wife came home and freaked.  One of her 
complaints was that I had some Christmas decorations that I had brought up 
but had not put outside ( but it was really the running water that had her 
going).  I'd been too busy with the snow storm.  So, I put those out and 
plugged them in.  Then I hauled out the snowthrower and wrestled it into the 
back yard to clear off a working area to pull snow off the garage roof.  
Pulled some snow off and used the snowthrower to push that snow further 
away.  I decided to widen the dog's walkway a bit and in the process, picked 
up one of those wire plant supporters that hadn't been put away and was 
buried in the snow.  That wrapped around the snowthrower auger really well.  
I cleared that out and replaced the shear pin.  Then I went in the house and 
my wife commented that all this didn't phase me much.  I replied that in the 
grand scheme of things, I've been through worse and this really wasn't a big 
deal.  Maybe that's what they mean by "that which doesn't kill you only 
makes you stronger"?

>From: Peter C <peter at nosimport.com>
>
>True, but it kicks the s%^t out of you, and you lose "something"
>
>
>At 08:58 AM 12/19/2007, Robert Duquette wrote:
>
>>Not 'everything' ... only material possessions. ;)

From nases at verizon.net  Wed Dec 19 10:57:01 2007
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:57:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Mk1 Sprite battery
Message-ID: <003201c84268$8f1f14f0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com>

I'll soon need a battery for the bugeye.  Any specific ratings I should get
or just get black in the right size?
 

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa

From p.herder at cox.net  Wed Dec 19 11:01:13 2007
From: p.herder at cox.net (p.herder at cox.net)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:01:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Losing everything ...
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F2984C82F8090230BE894DAB85C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20071219130113.J37UB.44599.root@eastrmwml33>

---- Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote: 
> Maybe that's what they mean by "that which doesn't kill you only 
> makes you stronger"?

I thought it was "that which doesn't kill you still hurts like hell!"

;^)

Paul

From daredelvis at gmail.com  Wed Dec 19 11:16:14 2007
From: daredelvis at gmail.com (brian james)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:16:14 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Mk1 Sprite battery
In-Reply-To: <003201c84268$8f1f14f0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com>
References: <003201c84268$8f1f14f0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com>
Message-ID: <531383560712191016x376b59bcu9de75e78930210da@mail.gmail.com>

The Optima Red top fits. They are expensive, but will be less likely to
contribute to rusting out your firewall then a regular battery.
Brian


On 12/19/07, Phil Nase <nases at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> I'll soon need a battery for the bugeye.  Any specific ratings I should
> get
> or just get black in the right size?
>
>
> Phil Nase
> Quakertown, PA
> http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa
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From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Wed Dec 19 12:17:51 2007
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:17:51 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Mk1 Sprite battery
Message-ID: <17020269.1198091871270.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

A small garden tractor battery will work just fine and not weigh your ride down.

MC

-----Original Message-----
>From: Phil Nase <nases at verizon.net>
>Sent: Dec 19, 2007 12:57 PM
>To: 'Spridgets' <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: [Spridgets] Mk1 Sprite battery
>
>I'll soon need a battery for the bugeye.  Any specific ratings I should get
>or just get black in the right size?
> 
>
>Phil Nase
>Quakertown, PA
>

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From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Wed Dec 19 12:19:15 2007
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:19:15 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Mk1 Sprite battery
Message-ID: <1310314.1198091955281.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

You can usually get the garden tractor battery for around $19 in the spring when they go on sell.

MC

-----Original Message-----
>From: brian james <daredelvis at gmail.com>
>Sent: Dec 19, 2007 1:16 PM
>To: nases at verizon.net
>Cc: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Mk1 Sprite battery
>
>The Optima Red top fits. They are expensive, but will be less likely to
>contribute to rusting out your firewall then a regular battery.
>Brian
>
>
>On 12/19/07, Phil Nase <nases at verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> I'll soon need a battery for the bugeye.  Any specific ratings I should
>> get
>> or just get black in the right size?
>>
>>
>> Phil Nase
>> Quakertown, PA


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From cciaffone at verizon.net  Wed Dec 19 12:47:37 2007
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:47:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Top Down Weather
Message-ID: <47697559.3010904@verizon.net>

Yesterday I had to have the top up, 20 degrees. Brrrr. But when the heater
gets revved, it get's right toasty inside. But lemme tell you, 
stretching the
soft top in 20 degrees is no mean trick.

But today, with temps up in the 30's, the top came down. Wheeee!!!

chuck

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Dec 19 13:02:52 2007
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:02:52 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Mk1 Sprite battery
In-Reply-To: <1310314.1198091955281.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <C38EB8EC.1356B%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Get anything that fits in your hold-down bracket securely.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Dec 19 13:07:23 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:07:23 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Top Down Weather
In-Reply-To: <47697559.3010904@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F211515FFAE65AE5DABB091B85C0@phx.gbl>

Bah!  Humbug!!!

Ottawa traffic cameras:
http://www.cbc.ca/ottawa/traffic/FrameSet.htm


>From: chuck <cciaffone at verizon.net>
>
>Yesterday I had to have the top up, 20 degrees. Brrrr. But when the heater
>gets revved, it get's right toasty inside. But lemme tell you,
>stretching the
>soft top in 20 degrees is no mean trick.
>
>But today, with temps up in the 30's, the top came down. Wheeee!!!
>
>chuck

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Dec 19 13:21:00 2007
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:21:00 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Top Down Weather
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F211515FFAE65AE5DABB091B85C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C38EBD2C.13571%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

They need better cameras.  Everything looks all white and fuzzy.

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Dec 19 13:27:29 2007
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester Ewing)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:27:29 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Convertible top purchase??
In-Reply-To: <10361936.1198080878722.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <10361936.1198080878722.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <D59043BE-DD99-429D-8F1F-572C2872EE4A@comcast.net>

Thanks..  And Robbins is the make to purchase?  So say we all?

Lester


On Dec 19, 2007, at 10:14 AM, type79 at ix.netcom.com wrote:

> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=robbins+tops&btnG=Google+Search
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Lester Ewing <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
>>> Sent: Dec 19, 2007 11:07 AM
>>> To: David Ramsey <dwramsey at att.net>
>>> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Convertible top purchase??
>>>
>>> .. and who sells Robbins tops??
>>>
>>> Mr. Robbins??  sorry..  couldn't resist..  so really, who sells  
>>> them..
>>>
>>> Lester

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Dec 19 13:23:30 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:23:30 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Top Down Weather
In-Reply-To: <C38EBD2C.13571%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F338DBB1F03877A6D8BFFCDB85C0@phx.gbl>

They make our windshields out of the same glass as those camera lenses.  :(

>From: Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
>
>They need better cameras.  Everything looks all white and fuzzy.

From hal at katemuir.com  Wed Dec 19 13:32:26 2007
From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:32:26 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye FS in Reno NV.   NFI, etc
Message-ID: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFIEAGFIAA.hal@katemuir.com>

In the Sacramento Craig's List:
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/car/513914753.html

Hal

From derf247 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 19 13:33:57 2007
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:33:57 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye FS in Reno NV. NFI, etc
In-Reply-To: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFIEAGFIAA.hal@katemuir.com>
References: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFIEAGFIAA.hal@katemuir.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910712191233q6481d7c5jb5ca41f4abd6b1f9@mail.gmail.com>

Looks like one of Frank's old cars.

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed Dec 19 13:36:18 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:36:18 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye FS in Reno NV. NFI, etc
References: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFIEAGFIAA.hal@katemuir.com>
	<5f00d9910712191233q6481d7c5jb5ca41f4abd6b1f9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005701c8427e$cf759040$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>

> Looks like one of Frank's old cars.

Up to and including the Weber ;-)
Of course, not having a 1275....

From Daniel1312 at aol.com  Wed Dec 19 13:43:00 2007
From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:43:00 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Can't afford the car of your dreams?
Message-ID: <be1.27f98d7b.349adc54@aol.com>

It's the most horrid thing I've ever seen.  I saw it in today's  newspaper.
They said it cost him #10,000 to build.  That's ten  thousands pounds
sterling.

Daniel1312

In a message dated 19/12/2007 16:48:27 GMT Standard Time, lists at woozy.com
writes:

There's  more here including a  video:

http://www.maxhydemotors.com/mkii.html

Robert

From type79 at ix.netcom.com  Wed Dec 19 13:44:05 2007
From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:44:05 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Convertible top purchase??
Message-ID: <31628068.1198097045961.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

They're a crapshoot IMO.

Over the years, I've received excellent product from them as well as product that was cut wrong which they refused to even entertain to correct.

btw, If you're doing an early car and are concerned with originality, have it made with Everflex with French rolled binding.

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/

-----Original Message-----
>From: Lester Ewing <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
>Sent: Dec 19, 2007 3:27 PM
>To: 
>Cc: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Convertible top purchase??
>
>Thanks..  And Robbins is the make to purchase?  So say we all?

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Wed Dec 19 13:47:07 2007
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:47:07 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye FS in Reno NV.   NFI, etc
References: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFIEAGFIAA.hal@katemuir.com>
Message-ID: <001001c84280$51e3a660$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

Just a durn minute,  I know that car.  That's Crash's bugeye or I'm blind.

What's up Crash?  You going to try to unload all your Sprite stuff?

Glen

> In the Sacramento Craig's List:
> http://sacramento.craigslist.org/car/513914753.html
> 
> Hal

From cciaffone at verizon.net  Wed Dec 19 13:52:27 2007
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:52:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Top Down Weather
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F211515FFAE65AE5DABB091B85C0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-F211515FFAE65AE5DABB091B85C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4769848B.3000406@verizon.net>

We had that here in Durham NC and they would keep all the
kids in school over night, close down the roads, and declare
an emergency!

Robert Duquette wrote:
> Bah!  Humbug!!!
>
> Ottawa traffic cameras:
> http://www.cbc.ca/ottawa/traffic/FrameSet.htm

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Wed Dec 19 14:14:21 2007
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:14:21 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] EFI non-progress
Message-ID: <000601c84284$201d5a50$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

I'm always quick to post when things are going great, so here's the balancing
post.

I haven't made a lick of progress in two weeks since I screwed up and burned
out the EFI computer.  I "sparked" the tach wire across the negative coil lead
while the engine was running to see if the tach would give a little jump.
Well.......it did.  It jumped right to 0.  I shorted out the power supply
portion of the ECU and I'll have to eventually diagnose it and swap out a few
capacitors.
In the meantime, I ordered a second kit and built another ECU(which I told me
wife will go into her Morris after I use it as a backup spare for the Missouri
trip).  While this technically true, it saves me admitting to SWMBO what a big
screwup I committed.  In the two day process of building the new one, I
figured out the source of the ignition problem that was stumping me.  ( A
capacitor installed for "coil triggered" ignition that isn't needed for the
optical Crane trigger was causing intermittent dropped sparks.)

The wideband sensor was replaced on warranty, the new center speaker/boost
gauge/fuel pressure gauge console is designed and patterned, ready to cut out
of aluminum and cover in vinyl.  It'll occupy the same area as the original
Spridget center radio console.  The timing table is entered and ready to test.
So like Canned Heat said,

"I'm on the road again.."

Glen Byrns

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 19 14:26:08 2007
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:26:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Heating the LBC workshop
In-Reply-To: <4768F910.1270@ticon.net>
Message-ID: <891491.53659.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

This is very true. The single barrel from what i had heard when i was looking. Are not very good for heating. That is why a suggested a cast iron. As some one said it radiates heat well. Very efficient. He burns Tamarack - or other hard word He uses it in the winter to heat a two car shop. In the summer he stores the cast iron unit and some of the pipe and uses the vent for other uses. Works for him any way. 
   
  Vigil

Dave Grandeffo <davegran at ticon.net> wrote:
  Charlie Shelden wrote:

> Sounds similar, the same company makes a kit to attach a second barrel to the
> top so you can get more heat, my shop is only 24x30 so it won't take a whole
> bunch. THis is most likely over kill to be sure, but I'm off for two weeks
> and plan to spend some time in the shop with the car thought why pay for
> propane if I can build this thing for less than 50.00. I plan to put castors
> on it and roll it under my bench in the summer as floor space is always
> needed. I bet it burns me out of there to be sure.
> 
> Charlie
> 


If you install the second barrel, it will increase the efficiency of the
stove and allow you to throttle it back more and not have to fill it as
often.

-- 
Dave Grandeffo
www.kettlemorainemotorsports.com
Southern Wisconsin
USA
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Dec 19 14:57:47 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:57:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Top Down Weather
In-Reply-To: <4769848B.3000406@verizon.net>
References: <BAY112-F211515FFAE65AE5DABB091B85C0@phx.gbl>
	<4769848B.3000406@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP152388C4FB9AAB42926CF4B85C0@CEZ.ICE>

Here the kids stay home.

-----Original Message-----
From: chuck [mailto:cciaffone at verizon.net] 
Sent: December 19, 2007 3:52 PM
To: Robert Duquette
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Top Down Weather

We had that here in Durham NC and they would keep all the
kids in school over night, close down the roads, and declare
an emergency!

Robert Duquette wrote:
> Bah!  Humbug!!!
>
> Ottawa traffic cameras:
> http://www.cbc.ca/ottawa/traffic/FrameSet.htm

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Wed Dec 19 15:31:40 2007
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:31:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Just in time for Christmas - no lbc
Message-ID: <69cq7p$26hmvn@email.mtu.edu>

You LBC, helicopter, motorcycle guys will just have to get one of these.
http://www.flixxy.com/motorcycle-engine-usb-hub.htm

Tim Collins
1966 AH Sprite 

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Dec 19 17:05:10 2007
From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:05:10 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Just in time for Christmas - no lbc
References: <69cq7p$26hmvn@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <1a6a01c8429b$fd423d80$6501a8c0@actualshop>

I think we ALL want Cap'n. Bob to do this in a REAL one (I'll host the
video)!!!!

http://www.flixxy.com/rc-plane-mig29.htm

Long and AMAZING !!!

From millerls at ado13.com  Wed Dec 19 17:12:09 2007
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:12:09 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye FS in Reno NV.   NFI, etc
References: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFIEAGFIAA.hal@katemuir.com>
Message-ID: <03f401c8429c$f72927a0$c90e0618@HP>

I do believe that car belongs to the former worlds Sprite driver.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hal Faulkner" <hal at katemuir.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 12:32 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye FS in Reno NV. NFI, etc


> In the Sacramento Craig's List:
> http://sacramento.craigslist.org/car/513914753.html
> 
> Hal
> _______________________________________________

From millerls at ado13.com  Wed Dec 19 17:14:37 2007
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:14:37 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye FS in Reno NV.   NFI, etc
References: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFIEAGFIAA.hal@katemuir.com>
	<03f401c8429c$f72927a0$c90e0618@HP>
Message-ID: <040701c8429d$4f07f780$c90e0618@HP>

The word "LARGEST" seems to have fallen out of my last message :-(

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry & Sandi Miller" <millerls at ado13.com>
To: "Hal Faulkner" <hal at katemuir.com>; "Spridgets" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye FS in Reno NV. NFI, etc


>I do believe that car belongs to the former worlds Sprite driver.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Hal Faulkner" <hal at katemuir.com>
> To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 12:32 PM
> Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye FS in Reno NV. NFI, etc
>
>
>> In the Sacramento Craig's List:
>> http://sacramento.craigslist.org/car/513914753.html
>>
>> Hal
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From type79 at ix.netcom.com  Wed Dec 19 17:17:10 2007
From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 19:17:10 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Just in time for Christmas - no lbc
Message-ID: <21399335.1198109830827.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Sure, if it provides a distraction to keep Napolean away from his keyboard.

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/

-----Original Message-----
>From: shop at justbrits.com
>Sent: Dec 19, 2007 7:05 PM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Just in time for Christmas - no lbc
>
>I think we ALL want Cap'n. Bob to do this in a REAL one (I'll host the
>video)!!!!
>
>http://www.flixxy.com/rc-plane-mig29.htm

From dwramsey at att.net  Wed Dec 19 17:23:04 2007
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:23:04 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Convertible top purchase??
In-Reply-To: <45B2D7A8-36F8-4963-85DE-5B00E78541C4@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20071220002353.7C1BD1879F5@autox.team.net>

Lester try this web site, http://www.robbinsautotopco.com/homepage.html it
works for me. In fact I helped them size the tops for the bug-I's when I
bought mine.
		Crash


.. and who sells Robbins tops??

Mr. Robbins??  sorry..  couldn't resist..  so really, who sells them..

Lester


On Dec 18, 2007, at 3:30 PM, David Ramsey wrote:

> For not that much more you could get a NIB Robbins top.  I like  
> their "Sail
> cloth" material, and it would come with the lift-a-dot and tenex  
> snaps.
> 		Crash
>
>
> .. and the reason that I shouldn't buy this is???
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150195422726
>
> Or is there a better way to go?
>
> Lester

From dwramsey at att.net  Wed Dec 19 17:56:11 2007
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:56:11 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye FS in Reno NV.   NFI, etc
In-Reply-To: <040701c8429d$4f07f780$c90e0618@HP>
Message-ID: <20071220005659.F27651879C1@autox.team.net>

Busted, it was offered to the list first.
		Crash  

The word "LARGEST" seems to have fallen out of my last message :-(


>I do believe that car belongs to the former worlds Sprite driver.
>
>
>> In the Sacramento Craig's List:
>> http://sacramento.craigslist.org/car/513914753.html
>>
>> Hal

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Dec 19 18:14:30 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:14:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Mk1 Sprite battery
In-Reply-To: <003201c84268$8f1f14f0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com>
References: <003201c84268$8f1f14f0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com>
Message-ID: <4769C1F6.2060703@comcast.net>

Phil Nase wrote:
> I'll soon need a battery for the bugeye. 

Group 24, do watch where the terminals are.
Correct is against the fire wall, but that's what causes all the 
firewalls to rust out at those bumps where the battery sits.
I get a group 24 with the terminals out near the heater.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Dec 19 18:18:15 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:18:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye FS in Reno NV. NFI, etc
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910712191233q6481d7c5jb5ca41f4abd6b1f9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFIEAGFIAA.hal@katemuir.com>
	<5f00d9910712191233q6481d7c5jb5ca41f4abd6b1f9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4769C2D7.9000002@comcast.net>

derf wrote:
> Looks like one of Frank's old cars.

Hummm, yellow with a black stripe in Reno.
And Crash mentioned selling his Bugeye which looked identical to my old 
yellow Bugeye.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 19 18:50:54 2007
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:50:54 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC: Hold my beer and watch this
In-Reply-To: <441250190712182334yc71d8ddlec672f16bb3b1896@mail.gmail.com>
References: <441250190712182334yc71d8ddlec672f16bb3b1896@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10712191750y1ea4c86sfad9576da5f9005d@mail.gmail.com>

How many beers does that take?

From dwramsey at att.net  Wed Dec 19 18:53:07 2007
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:53:07 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Mk1 Sprite battery
In-Reply-To: <4769C1F6.2060703@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20071220015355.23D15187A1B@autox.team.net>

The difference being between a Group 24 or 24F. Personally, I really the
Optima.
		Crash


Phil Nase wrote:
> I'll soon need a battery for the bugeye. 

Group 24, do watch where the terminals are.
Correct is against the fire wall, but that's what causes all the 
firewalls to rust out at those bumps where the battery sits.
I get a group 24 with the terminals out near the heater.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
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From froggi60 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 19 19:11:45 2007
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:11:45 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Just in time for Christmas - no lbc
In-Reply-To: <69cq7p$26hmvn@email.mtu.edu>
References: <69cq7p$26hmvn@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10712191811x4008b888oa532a2f03cd52ee2@mail.gmail.com>

If that's 'for real', being the original owner of a 1964 Triumph Bonneville
you bet I want one!

Thanks for sending it Tim.

Herb

From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net  Thu Dec 20 07:47:43 2007
From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 06:47:43 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Mk1 Sprite battery
References: <003201c84268$8f1f14f0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com>
	<4769C1F6.2060703@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <014b01c84317$488d7cc0$f675fea9@p0k7l8>

I think the one you might need is a 24F.  Or a 24 would also work.  Mostly
depends on which side of the battery front you want to go to ground!!

Paul A

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>
To: <nases at verizon.net>
Cc: "'Spridgets'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Mk1 Sprite battery


> Phil Nase wrote:
> > I'll soon need a battery for the bugeye.
>
> Group 24, do watch where the terminals are.
> Correct is against the fire wall, but that's what causes all the
> firewalls to rust out at those bumps where the battery sits.
> I get a group 24 with the terminals out near the heater.
>
>
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ

From nases at verizon.net  Wed Dec 19 20:20:53 2007
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:20:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] u joint install
Message-ID: <006a01c842b7$54b9a4c0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com>

I installed the rear u joint tonight with the grease zerk facing the drive
shaft.  It bumps the fixed end of the shaft before it reaches the end of its
travel.  My manual shows both ends with the zerk pointing to the drive
shaft.
 
I hope I don't have to ruin a new u joint to change it.  Anyone know?
 

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa

From dwramsey at att.net  Wed Dec 19 20:23:49 2007
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 19:23:49 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye FS in Reno NV. NFI, etc
In-Reply-To: <005701c8427e$cf759040$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <20071220032437.75E521879F5@autox.team.net>

> Looks like one of Frank's old cars.

Up to and including the Weber ;-)
Of course, not having a 1275....

It gets 40mpg and can run 90+ mph all day long.
		Crash

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Wed Dec 19 20:19:38 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 19:19:38 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
Message-ID: <380-220071242031938156@earthlink.net>

..go to jail!

 http://tinyurl.com/yr2nxo 

California will have a new law in 2008 that bans use of a cell phone while driving.  About time!  I once saw a woman (Frank's favorite kind) with a cell phone to EACH ear, while she turned a corner with her elbows!!!!

Buster

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Dec 19 20:32:58 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:32:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye FS in Reno NV. NFI, etc
In-Reply-To: <20071220032437.75E521879F5@autox.team.net>
References: <20071220032437.75E521879F5@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <4769E26A.9080209@comcast.net>

David Ramsey wrote:

> Up to and including the Weber ;-)
> Of course, not having a 1275....
> 
> It gets 40mpg and can run 90+ mph all day long.
> 		Crash

Mine will run all day at 90 too but I get 25 mpg at best.
What's your magic on the Weber?

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed Dec 19 20:45:34 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:45:34 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye FS in Reno NV. NFI, etc
References: <20071220032437.75E521879F5@autox.team.net>
	<4769E26A.9080209@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <006101c842ba$c705de60$0401a8c0@midget>

>> It gets 40mpg and can run 90+ mph all day long.
>> Crash
 
> Mine will run all day at 90 too but I get 25 mpg at best.
> What's your magic on the Weber?

Frank,
He didn't say it would do both at the same time!

From thefirebuilds at gmail.com  Wed Dec 19 20:48:37 2007
From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:48:37 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <380-220071242031938156@earthlink.net>
References: <380-220071242031938156@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <8a336b9d0712191948j3b88e254hb4c14fa23cc2070@mail.gmail.com>

Sounds hot.  I bet she was a goer.



On Dec 19, 2007 9:19 PM, Robert Bruce Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:

> ..go to jail!
>
>  http://tinyurl.com/yr2nxo
>
> California will have a new law in 2008 that bans use of a cell phone while
> driving.  About time!  I once saw a woman (Frank's favorite kind) with a
> cell phone to EACH ear, while she turned a corner with her elbows!!!!
>
> Buster
> _______________________________________________
>
>
> --
> "Well you are the one, the one that lies close to me
> Whisper's "Hello, I've missed you quite terribly"
> I fell in love, in love with you suddenly
> Now there's no place else I could be but here in your arms" - Hellogoodbye

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed Dec 19 20:53:03 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:53:03 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
References: <380-220071242031938156@earthlink.net>
	<8a336b9d0712191948j3b88e254hb4c14fa23cc2070@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <006801c842bb$d2907820$0401a8c0@midget>

>> California will have a new law in 2008 that bans use of a cell phone 
>> while
>> driving.  About time!  I once saw a woman (Frank's favorite kind) with a
>> cell phone to EACH ear, while she turned a corner with her elbows!!!!

Yet another case of dumbing things down for the shallow end of the gene 
pool.
You know, some of us CAN drive competently while using a cell phone.
Others cannot drive with the radio on. Start issuing tickets for incompetent
driving regardless of cellphone use. 

From dmg at bossig.com  Wed Dec 19 21:10:08 2007
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:10:08 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <380-220071242031938156@earthlink.net>
References: <380-220071242031938156@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <47697AA0.20115.2A1C663@dmg.bossig.com>

In WA State....
Under new laws, drivers who read and compose text messages or talk on a 
cell phone without a hands-free device could face a $101 ticket. The text-
messaging ban takes effect Jan. 1; the cell-phone law will be enforced 
starting in July 2008.

But here is the "out"!
Drivers are exempt in some situations, including emergencies, and neither 
offense will be enough to get a driver pulled over by the police.
 
So where's the 'sting!'
-
Dave G, KK7SS
'65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Dec 19 21:18:58 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:18:58 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] u joint install
In-Reply-To: <006a01c842b7$54b9a4c0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com>
References: <006a01c842b7$54b9a4c0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712192018o22816ca0s362f76260e376f56@mail.gmail.com>

Phil,

Did this job about 8 months ago. Examine the U-joint yokes. One side has a
bit deeper curve than the other. That's where the zerk goes. This is hard to
explain in words. A picture is worth a thousand words and I know there are a
couple out there but am not sure where to tell you to look. Maybe some of
the others can help. Anyway, pretty sure you are going to have to do it over
again...   Thankfully, the Hardy Spicers are pretty cheap.....

Come to think of it, I think Just Ed has a picture of this that he sent
me... Try him at Ed at justbrits.com

Sorry!
Jim

On Dec 19, 2007 9:20 PM, Phil Nase <nases at verizon.net> wrote:

> I installed the rear u joint tonight with the grease zerk facing the drive
> shaft.  It bumps the fixed end of the shaft before it reaches the end of
> its
> travel.  My manual shows both ends with the zerk pointing to the drive
> shaft.
>
> I hope I don't have to ruin a new u joint to change it.  Anyone know?
>
>
> Phil Nase
> Quakertown, PA
> http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa<http://home.comcast.net/%7Ephilnasecpa>
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-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Wed Dec 19 21:17:34 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:17:34 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
Message-ID: <380-220071242041734687@earthlink.net>

David Lieb wrote:  "Yet another case of dumbing things down for the shallow
end of the gene pool.  You know, some of us CAN drive competently while
using a cell phone.  Others cannot drive with the radio on. Start issuing
tickets for incompetent driving regardless of cellphone use."

And *who* decides what is or is not incompetent.  There was an already old
saying when I was a cop:  "There is no law against stupidity."

But, the fact remands that study after study has found a direct causal link
betwee cell phone usage and accidents.

 "According to NHTSA, at any given moment of the day, 500,000 drivers of
passenger vehicles are talking on handheld cell phones....the NHTSA has
determined that driver inattention is a primary or contributing factor in
as many as 25 percent of all police-reported traffic accidents."   "Car
accident statistics indicate 98 percent of reported accidents involve a
single distracted driver. Rubbernecking was the highest percentage of
single distractions, followed by driver fatigue, looking at scenery or
landmarks, passenger or child distractions, adjusting the radio or other
music form, and cell phone use."  That, I believe, describes stupid driving.

Personally, I would prefer that they be banned for MY protection, and the
protection of my family.

Buster

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Dec 19 21:27:04 2007
From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:27:04 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] u joint install
References: <006a01c842b7$54b9a4c0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com>
	<43840a7e0712192018o22816ca0s362f76260e376f56@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <034a01c842c0$93944160$6501a8c0@actualshop>

<<Try him at Ed at justbrits.com>>

Why not try www.justbrits.com and check in "Various Articles" for "infamous"
LBC u-joint (as I already told Phil, Jim.)<G>!!??

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Dec 19 21:37:30 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:37:30 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <380-220071242041734687@earthlink.net>
References: <380-220071242041734687@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712192037t7933f3ach54e9dad28cb33d62@mail.gmail.com>

Statistics show that 88% of drivers involved in accidents own cell phones.
Clearly cell phones are causing highway carnage. Nearly 98% of drivers
involved in accidents like potatoes. Therefore potatoes are the leading
cause of accidents, right?  Face it. There are morons all around us. Morons
who don't pay attention behind the wheel are the cause of accidents. It
matters little what distracts them. Their failing to pay attention driving
is the culprit, not the distraction itself.

Oh!  Also, A certain percent of drivers involved in accidents were
distracted as the scratched their a$$. Therefore, we'll all be a lot safer
when people with an a$$ are forbidden to drive.

Or....

18% of people who know Buster Evans have had accidents. Therefore......
;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Dec 19, 2007 10:17 PM, Robert Bruce Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:

> David Lieb wrote:  "Yet another case of dumbing things down for the
> shallow
> end of the gene pool.  You know, some of us CAN drive competently while
> using a cell phone.  Others cannot drive with the radio on. Start issuing
> tickets for incompetent driving regardless of cellphone use."
>
> And *who* decides what is or is not incompetent.  There was an already old
> saying when I was a cop:  "There is no law against stupidity."
>
> But, the fact remands that study after study has found a direct causal
> link
> betwee cell phone usage and accidents.
>
>  "According to NHTSA, at any given moment of the day, 500,000 drivers of
> passenger vehicles are talking on handheld cell phones....the NHTSA has
> determined that driver inattention is a primary or contributing factor in
> as many as 25 percent of all police-reported traffic accidents."   "Car
> accident statistics indicate 98 percent of reported accidents involve a
> single distracted driver. Rubbernecking was the highest percentage of
> single distractions, followed by driver fatigue, looking at scenery or
> landmarks, passenger or child distractions, adjusting the radio or other
> music form, and cell phone use."  That, I believe, describes stupid
> driving.
>
> Personally, I would prefer that they be banned for MY protection, and the
> protection of my family.
>
> Buster
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From dwramsey at att.net  Wed Dec 19 21:48:19 2007
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:48:19 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye FS in Reno NV. NFI, etc
In-Reply-To: <4769E26A.9080209@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20071220044908.7E68E1879F5@autox.team.net>

Take it off and put the Su's back on. With the 40 DCOE the best I would get
was around 35mpg.

David Ramsey wrote:

> Up to and including the Weber ;-)
> Of course, not having a 1275....
> 
> It gets 40mpg and can run 90+ mph all day long.
> 		Crash

Mine will run all day at 90 too but I get 25 mpg at best.
What's your magic on the Weber?

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From bilbostuufff at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 19 22:04:13 2007
From: bilbostuufff at yahoo.com (John Colclasure)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:04:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Stolen Car
Message-ID: <627504.22696.qm@web56009.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

I received the following from My MG club concerning a stolen car in Downey California. The Car is not an MG, but never the less a collector is a collector..

Calling all Cars!
Don Hampton had his Ford Phaeton Stolen.. Please watch the video,, click on the blue area ..

http://www.hamptonb lowers.com/ stolen.html

       
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From dwramsey at att.net  Wed Dec 19 22:31:32 2007
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:31:32 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0712192037t7933f3ach54e9dad28cb33d62@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20071220053221.C298D187A0F@autox.team.net>

More people die in the bath tub than in car crashes every year, so I guess
you're saying you shouldn't use your cell phone in the tub, the other option
just stinks?
		Crash


Statistics show that 88% of drivers involved in accidents own cell phones.
Clearly cell phones are causing highway carnage. Nearly 98% of drivers
involved in accidents like potatoes. Therefore potatoes are the leading
cause of accidents, right?  Face it. There are morons all around us. Morons
who don't pay attention behind the wheel are the cause of accidents. It
matters little what distracts them. Their failing to pay attention driving
is the culprit, not the distraction itself.

Oh!  Also, A certain percent of drivers involved in accidents were
distracted as the scratched their a$$. Therefore, we'll all be a lot safer
when people with an a$$ are forbidden to drive.

Or....

18% of people who know Buster Evans have had accidents. Therefore......
;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Wed Dec 19 22:33:49 2007
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:33:49 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC: Hold my beer and watch this
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10712191750y1ea4c86sfad9576da5f9005d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <441250190712182334yc71d8ddlec672f16bb3b1896@mail.gmail.com>
	<2ad6c6b10712191750y1ea4c86sfad9576da5f9005d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <441250190712192133k15fca925h127c8b51dd46d0b0@mail.gmail.com>

In the trailer park the fun starts at one!

On 12/19/07, WFO Herb <froggi60 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> How many beers does that take?

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Wed Dec 19 23:56:47 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:56:47 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
Message-ID: <380-220071242065647437@earthlink.net>

Jim Johnson wrote:  "A certain percent of drivers involved in accidents
were distracted as the scratched their a$$. Therefore, we'll all be a lot
safer when people with an a$$ are forbidden to drive."

You just don't understand, Jim!  *Why* do they scratch their a$$?  
Obviously, Jim, you do not get the point.  They *are* rotten azzholes, they
itch so they scratch!  Where *is* your compassion?

RB

From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU  Thu Dec 20 07:51:41 2007
From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:51:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Winshield wiper fail points
In-Reply-To: <mailman.39714.1198109878.12556.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.39714.1198109878.12556.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <EA1FDC5F-BCC8-4988-8A8B-3C2D7277925F@dartmouth.edu>

Hi,

The windshield wipers on my '79 are sooo slow they are practically  
useless.

So as I think about fixing them I figured I'd check with the list to  
see where the common points of failure are.

Switch, motor, the complicated system of cables and gears?

thanks,
-m

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Thu Dec 20 07:59:52 2007
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 06:59:52 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <47697AA0.20115.2A1C663@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <C38FC368.135BC%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

I guy out here was run over by a train a couple of weeks ago while talking
on his phone and pacing back and forth across a railroad crossing.
BZ

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Thu Dec 20 08:11:05 2007
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:11:05 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Winshield wiper fail points
In-Reply-To: <EA1FDC5F-BCC8-4988-8A8B-3C2D7277925F@dartmouth.edu>
References: <mailman.39714.1198109878.12556.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<EA1FDC5F-BCC8-4988-8A8B-3C2D7277925F@dartmouth.edu>
Message-ID: <e98d88090712200711oc891fc3kfb45bab6d78a6554@mail.gmail.com>

I'd be more inclined to accuse your wheel boxes. The housings are aluminium,
and the shafts are steel, and you know what happens when dissimilar metals
are in contact with one another. I'd see if you can get them out, and try to
free them up with some sort of moly based lube.

Brad

On Dec 20, 2007 8:51 AM, Mark A. O'Neil <mark.a.oneil at dartmouth.edu> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The windshield wipers on my '79 are sooo slow they are practically
> useless.
>
> So as I think about fixing them I figured I'd check with the list to
> see where the common points of failure are.
>
> Switch, motor, the complicated system of cables and gears?
>
> thanks,
> -m
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From type79 at ix.netcom.com  Thu Dec 20 08:11:37 2007
From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:11:37 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
Message-ID: <22788338.1198163497555.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Was that a commuter train?

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/

-----Original Message-----
>From: Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
>Sent: Dec 20, 2007 9:59 AM
>To: dmg at bossig.com, Spridgets at autox.team.net, midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com, bugeye at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
>
>I guy out here was run over by a train a couple of weeks ago while talking
>on his phone and pacing back and forth across a railroad crossing.

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec 20 08:19:01 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:19:01 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
References: <22788338.1198163497555.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <0cac01c8431b$a75654d0$6401a8c0@Larry>

Maybe they were just making another one of those commercials where the 
connection gets dropped.

LAD

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <type79 at ix.netcom.com>
To: <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...


Was that a commuter train?

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/

-----Original Message-----
>From: Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
>Sent: Dec 20, 2007 9:59 AM
>To: dmg at bossig.com, Spridgets at autox.team.net, midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com, 
>bugeye at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
>
>I guy out here was run over by a train a couple of weeks ago while talking
>on his phone and pacing back and forth across a railroad crossing.
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Thu Dec 20 08:28:40 2007
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 07:28:40 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <22788338.1198163497555.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <C38FCA28.135CB%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> Was that a commuter train?
I don't know. The story was on the radio every fifteen minutes, but I wasn't
paying that much attention. The commuters are still pretty loud.

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Thu Dec 20 09:30:05 2007
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 08:30:05 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <C38FC368.135BC%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <47697AA0.20115.2A1C663@dmg.bossig.com>
	<C38FC368.135BC%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <441250190712200830v1cf46293k45b77f72162b2465@mail.gmail.com>

I'll bet he won't make that mistake again!

On 12/20/07, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:
>
> I guy out here was run over by a train a couple of weeks ago while talking
> on his phone and pacing back and forth across a railroad crossing.
> BZ

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Thu Dec 20 09:33:52 2007
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 08:33:52 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <380-220071242041734687@earthlink.net>
References: <380-220071242041734687@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <441250190712200833v365474d5r38b360144b7ea0b8@mail.gmail.com>

The funny thing is the link is to all cell phone usage not just hand held
cell phone usage.  So if they want to enact a ban for safety it should be
all cell phone usage, not just the hand held usage.  It seems hands free is
just as distracting as hand held.  Another law passed to make people feel
good.   Reminds me of the federal car jacking law.

-g




On 12/19/07, Robert Bruce Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
> But, the fact remands that study after study has found a direct causal
> link
> betwee cell phone usage and accidents.
>
> "According to NHTSA, at any given moment of the day, 500,000 drivers of
> passenger vehicles are talking on handheld cell phones....the NHTSA has
> determined that driver inattention is a primary or contributing factor in
> as many as 25 percent of all police-reported traffic accidents."   "Car
> accident statistics indicate 98 percent of reported accidents involve a
> single distracted driver. Rubbernecking was the highest percentage of
> single distractions, followed by driver fatigue, looking at scenery or
> landmarks, passenger or child distractions, adjusting the radio or other
> music form, and cell phone use."  That, I believe, describes stupid
> driving.
>
> Personally, I would prefer that they be banned for MY protection, and the
> protection of my family.
>
> Buster

From derf247 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 20 09:37:55 2007
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:37:55 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] u joint install
In-Reply-To: <006a01c842b7$54b9a4c0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com>
References: <006a01c842b7$54b9a4c0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910712200837h44f71d4bo7abce451435f4d50@mail.gmail.com>

Install the zerk, grease the joint, remove the zerk, install a plug?

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Thu Dec 20 09:39:51 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 08:39:51 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
Message-ID: <380-2200712420163951562@earthlink.net>

Billy Zoom wrote:  "I guy out here was run over by a train a couple of
weeks ago while talking on his phone and pacing back and forth across a
railroad crossing."

Oh boy, just an inconsiderate "train driver" on his cell phone.  

BE

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Thu Dec 20 09:55:12 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:55:12 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
References: <380-2200712420163951562@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <002801c84329$16767040$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>

> Billy Zoom wrote:  "I guy out here was run over by a train a couple of
> weeks ago while talking on his phone and pacing back and forth across a
> railroad crossing."
 
> Oh boy, just an inconsiderate "train driver" on his cell phone.  

Careful, Mike might take umbrage.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Dec 20 10:06:50 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:06:50 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <002801c84329$16767040$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <380-2200712420163951562@earthlink.net>
	<002801c84329$16767040$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712200906o38911a65n41a88c9ef70c9632@mail.gmail.com>

I'm sorry....   Could you guys repeat what you just wrote?  I was on the
phone.....
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2008!!
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From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 20 10:17:44 2007
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:17:44 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <380-2200712420163951562@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <463292.13830.qm@web38911.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Geeesh
   
  Is our generation so screwed up we need the government to baby sit us with laws and bail them out from fires and other tragedies. I for one think we have to many laws and way to much bailing out stupid rich people. I do not live where any of that crap happens for a couple of reasons. One being i could not afford it. The other being i have seen all the crap happening all the time. I also think people should be responsible for their own actions. 
   
  Vigil

Robert Bruce Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:
  Billy Zoom wrote: "I guy out here was run over by a train a couple of
weeks ago while talking on his phone and pacing back and forth across a
railroad crossing."

Oh boy, just an inconsiderate "train driver" on his cell phone. 

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From peter at nosimport.com  Thu Dec 20 10:21:22 2007
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:21:22 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0712200906o38911a65n41a88c9ef70c9632@mail.gmail.co
  m>
References: <380-2200712420163951562@earthlink.net>
	<002801c84329$16767040$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<43840a7e0712200906o38911a65n41a88c9ef70c9632@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071220111601.032be658@nosimport.com>

True story.....

Had a customer calling from his cell phone looking for parts for his Jetta.

I needed his VIN.

  I heard some shuffling, then a oompf, then he said  "I'll have to 
pull over and stop and get that for you. I can't quite get my head 
close enough too see it."


Yikes!


Peter C.

From p.herder at cox.net  Thu Dec 20 10:21:53 2007
From: p.herder at cox.net (p.herder at cox.net)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:21:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <C38FC368.135BC%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <20071220122153.5E9SM.132936.root@eastrmwml10>

---- Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote: 
> I guy out here was run over by a train a couple of weeks ago while talking
> on his phone and pacing back and forth across a railroad crossing.
> BZ

As my wife would say;

"Thin the herd!"

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Thu Dec 20 10:18:29 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:18:29 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
Message-ID: <380-2200712420171829500@earthlink.net>

David Lieb "umbrage".

Can you spell that for me?

B

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Thu Dec 20 10:50:20 2007
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:50:20 -0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Winshield wiper fail points
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090712200711oc891fc3kfb45bab6d78a6554@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004701c84330$ca967b90$0201a8c0@Laptop>

The usual problem is that the grease inside the
rack tube becomes solidified with age (don't we
all!) and then the wipers gradually slow down. The
solution is to strip them down, clean out the old
grese with a solvent ( petrol or engine cleaner)
and re-gerease with fresh.

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From:
spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.t
eam.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk
@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Brad Fornal
Sent: 20 December 2007 15:11
To: Mark A. O'Neil
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Winshield wiper fail
points


I'd be more inclined to accuse your wheel boxes.
The housings are aluminium,
and the shafts are steel, and you know what
happens when dissimilar metals
are in contact with one another. I'd see if you
can get them out, and try to
free them up with some sort of moly based lube.

Brad

On Dec 20, 2007 8:51 AM, Mark A. O'Neil
<mark.a.oneil at dartmouth.edu> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The windshield wipers on my '79 are sooo slow
they are practically
> useless.
>
> So as I think about fixing them I figured I'd
check with the list to
> see where the common points of failure are.
>
> Switch, motor, the complicated system of cables
and gears?
>
> thanks,
> -m
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Thu Dec 20 10:58:34 2007
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:58:34 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <463292.13830.qm@web38911.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C38FED4A.135EB%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> Is our generation so screwed up
Well, DUH!

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 20 11:00:40 2007
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:00:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <20071220122153.5E9SM.132936.root@eastrmwml10>
Message-ID: <694975.94894.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

    "Thin the herd!"
   
  Or said another way...  Darwin's theory in Action
   
   - David

       
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From cciaffone at verizon.net  Thu Dec 20 11:08:50 2007
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:08:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <694975.94894.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <694975.94894.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <476AAFB2.3040708@verizon.net>

David Booker wrote:
>     "Thin the herd!"
>    
>   Or said another way...  Darwin's theory in Action
>    
>    - David
>   
The chief problem here is that, when they lose control, it may be
YOU what get's thinned!

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Thu Dec 20 11:09:02 2007
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:09:02 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <694975.94894.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20071220122153.5E9SM.132936.root@eastrmwml10>
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Don't worry, there will be a lawyer to sue Darwin's descendants, for such a
"politically incorrect" theory.

On Dec 20, 2007 12:00 PM, David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>    "Thin the herd!"
>
>  Or said another way...  Darwin's theory in Action
>
>   - David
>
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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Thu Dec 20 11:04:43 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:04:43 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
Message-ID: <380-22007124201844378@earthlink.net>

Vigil wrote:  "I also think people should be responsible for their own
actions."

And what if they refuse?  What are you going to do then?  Just let them
hurt or kill others through their own stupid, inconsiderate actions.  Prime
example yesterday.  Pam has extreme difficulty walking any distance, and we
have a handicapped placard.  At the grocery store,  the handicapped parking
was filled.  Filled with people who did not have a handicapped placard. 
One obese hulk was standing by his car that had no handicapped placard. 
When I asked him about it, he went into an obscene rage that he didn't need
one because he couldn't find a closer parking place, and besides, he
"claimed" his son was a cop!  He continued his rage even while I was taking
down his license number!   Touchy porker.

Buster

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 20 11:15:21 2007
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:15:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <22788338.1198163497555.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <672350.25114.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

It is a train with a bar car that takes you to work in another area.
   
  Vigil

type79 at ix.netcom.com wrote:
  Was that a commuter train?

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/

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>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
>
>I guy out here was run over by a train a couple of weeks ago while talking
>on his phone and pacing back and forth across a railroad crossing.
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Dec 20 11:31:31 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:31:31 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <672350.25114.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <22788338.1198163497555.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<672350.25114.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712201031u43202b58j8202826ef56c0a86@mail.gmail.com>

The whole situation exists because generations of parents starting in the
1930s and 40s abdicated their responsibility. They let child rearing expert
Dr. Spock (No, not the Vulcan - the other one) teach about 3 generations of
Americans that nobody should be held responsible for their actions because
it will give them a psychological trauma.

Sadly the only way out now is "thin the herd" as Paul mentioned. And you are
going to loose a few of the good cows too. It is justifiable though since it
is all for the good health of the herd as a whole. Its kinda like teaching
the town bully a lesson. You beat the heck out of him, but you get a black
eye and a broken tooth yourself in doing it.  Fortunes of war in the British
lexicon....

Cheers!!
Jim - whose parents whipped his ass when he screwed up thereby inflicting
grave psychological damage...    ;-)

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 20 11:42:44 2007
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:42:44 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <380-22007124201844378@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <488518.10843.qm@web38913.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

You get on your cell phone and call a cop. After the jerk pays several hundred for the space once - he should learn. If not soon he will not have any money. In any case he is eliminated from the game. 
   
  I do have a handicapped tag. I think in the last year i may have used it once when my back was really killing me and i was going in to a store for a short time to get med's. The rest of the time i use the regular parking lot just like every one else. I figure the people that feel bad that day need it more.   
   
  Vigil
   
  
Robert Bruce Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote: 
  Vigil wrote: "I also think people should be responsible for their own
actions."

And what if they refuse? What are you going to do then? Just let them
hurt or kill others through their own stupid, inconsiderate actions. Prime
example yesterday. Pam has extreme difficulty walking any distance, and we
have a handicapped placard. At the grocery store, the handicapped parking
was filled. Filled with people who did not have a handicapped placard. 
One obese hulk was standing by his car that had no handicapped placard. 
When I asked him about it, he went into an obscene rage that he didn't need
one because he couldn't find a closer parking place, and besides, he
"claimed" his son was a cop! He continued his rage even while I was taking
down his license number! Touchy porker.

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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec 20 11:43:40 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:43:40 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
References: <22788338.1198163497555.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net><672350.25114.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<43840a7e0712201031u43202b58j8202826ef56c0a86@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0dab01c84338$3e073b30$6401a8c0@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>

Cheers!!
Jim - whose parents whipped his ass when he screwed up thereby inflicting
grave psychological damage...    ;-)
_______________________________________________

We knew you couldn't have gotten that screwed up without some outside help.

ED

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Dec 20 11:48:06 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:48:06 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <488518.10843.qm@web38913.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <380-22007124201844378@earthlink.net>
	<488518.10843.qm@web38913.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712201048h5fa1b1d3x2d10d945d898f8ef@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/20/07, uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> <snip> I figure the people that feel bad that day need it more.
>



So your folks whipped your ass and taught you some consideration for others
too....   ;-)
Jim
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Thu Dec 20 11:50:13 2007
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:50:13 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0712201031u43202b58j8202826ef56c0a86@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C38FF965.135FD%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

It's all based on the false assumption that psychological trauma is an
inherently bad thing. It is man's capacity for suffering, overcoming, and
finally finding humour in our own psychological trauma that sets us apart
from the lower life forms.
BZ
> The whole situation exists because generations of parents starting in the
> 1930s and 40s abdicated their responsibility. They let child rearing expert
> Dr. Spock (No, not the Vulcan - the other one) teach about 3 generations of
> Americans that nobody should be held responsible for their actions because
> it will give them a psychological trauma.

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Thu Dec 20 11:51:39 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:51:39 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <488518.10843.qm@web38913.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <380-22007124201844378@earthlink.net>
	<488518.10843.qm@web38913.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <006501c84339$5cff6f20$16fe4d60$@com>

I had a guy that worked for me... and we pulled up to McCormick Place in
Chicago for a trade show. I watched as he smiled and pulled out a handicap
dealie for the mirror  as he swung into a handicapped parking spot. He was
quite proud of the fact that he did this all the time. 

I suggested he move his car or he would need handicapped parking for real
when I was done with him.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 12:43 PM
To: b-evans at earthlink.net; Spridgets at autox.team.net;
midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com; bugeye at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...

You get on your cell phone and call a cop. After the jerk pays several
hundred for the space once - he should learn. If not soon he will not have
any money. In any case he is eliminated from the game. 
   
  I do have a handicapped tag. I think in the last year i may have used it
once when my back was really killing me and i was going in to a store for a
short time to get med's. The rest of the time i use the regular parking lot
just like every one else. I figure the people that feel bad that day need it
more.   
   
  Vigil

From JNBrashear at garverengineers.com  Thu Dec 20 11:59:18 2007
From: JNBrashear at garverengineers.com (Brashear, Jack, N)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:59:18 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: Use your cell phone  driving...
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0712201048h5fa1b1d3x2d10d945d898f8ef@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE60384E252@glitas07.garverinc.local>

Can anyone actually HEAR a ring tone, let alone an audible conversation,
on a cell phone while blasting down the road in a top-down Spridget??
Top-up noise is even worse for cell phones at 75 mph in my old threshing
machine.  What the heck, I didn't want to be disturbed anyway while
having so much fun!!
Jack

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+jnbrashear=garverengineers.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+jnbrashear=garverengineers.com at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Jim Johnson
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 12:48 PM
To: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com
Cc: Spridgets at autox.team.net; bugeye at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: Use your cell phone
driving...

On 12/20/07, uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
> <snip> I figure the people that feel bad that day need it more.
>



So your folks whipped your ass and taught you some consideration for
others
too....   ;-)
Jim
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From dmg at bossig.com  Thu Dec 20 11:59:57 2007
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:59:57 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <488518.10843.qm@web38913.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <380-22007124201844378@earthlink.net>,
	<488518.10843.qm@web38913.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <476A4B2D.20816.A9E72D@dmg.bossig.com>

I have Heart/Lung problems and have a permanent handicapped plate. But 
- I still park a bit away from the store because that makes me get a bit of 
exercise (that I am sure I need) getting into the store.

But what really bugs me is seeing a perfectly healthy person climb down 
from a jacked-up 1/2 ton 4x4 parked in a handicapped slot because they 
are using a relative's placard...and not a cop in sight!!

I just wish I was physically big enough to have a confrontation...!!

dmg

On 20 Dec 2007 at 10:42, uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com wrote:
>> At the grocery store, the handicapped parking
>> was filled. Filled with people who did not have a handicapped placard. 

-
Dave G, KK7SS
'65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Thu Dec 20 12:11:03 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:11:03 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Calif. EPA bureaucrats jobless?
Message-ID: <380-220071242019113531@earthlink.net>

You would think that this EPA ruling on carbon dioxide emissions from automobiles would put a lot of bureaucrats in the unemployment lines.  But we all know that NO bureaucracy ever shrinks.  They will just be transferred elsewhere!

http://tinyurl.com/27sl9a

Buster

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 20 12:23:50 2007
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:23:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0712201048h5fa1b1d3x2d10d945d898f8ef@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <943147.46170.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

No my parents were Quakers.
   
  Just kidding - 
   
  My parents were not abusive - i did get a good whipping when i screwed up.
   
  Vigil.

Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
  On 12/20/07, uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com wrote:
>
> I figure the people that feel bad that day need it more.
>



So your folks whipped your ass and taught you some consideration for others
too.... ;-)
Jim
-- 
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From dmg at bossig.com  Thu Dec 20 12:27:55 2007
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:27:55 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Calif. EPA bureaucrats jobless?
In-Reply-To: <380-220071242019113531@earthlink.net>
References: <380-220071242019113531@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <476A51BB.24907.C38316@dmg.bossig.com>

Buster,

Oh No! Obviously they will be needed to further obfuscate interpreting the 
new regulations

dmg

On 20 Dec 2007 at 11:11, Robert Bruce Evans wrote:

>> You would think that this EPA ruling on carbon dioxide emissions from
>> automobiles would put a lot of bureaucrats in the unemployment lines.  But we
>> all know that NO bureaucracy ever shrinks.  They will just be transferred
>> elsewhere!

-
Dave G, KK7SS
'65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Thu Dec 20 13:23:47 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:23:47 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
References: <488518.10843.qm@web38913.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <006b01c84346$3a22a5a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>

>  I do have a handicapped tag. I think in the last year i may have used it 
> once when my back was really killing me and i was going in to a store for 
> a short time to get med's. The rest of the time i use the regular parking 
> lot just like every one else. I figure the people that feel bad that day 
> need it more.

Sure, Vigil, YOU have a handicap tag but you have to block a space that I 
could be using instead? Thanks a LOT! Because of you, I get to walk even 
further ;-)
ED 

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Thu Dec 20 13:50:17 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:50:17 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Calif. EPA bureaucrats jobless?
Message-ID: <380-2200712420205017468@earthlink.net>

Bob Gardner wrote:  "The air is amazingly clean now...."

Compared to WHAT, Bob.  I will tell you one thing, the Southern California air it is NOT as clean as it was when I was a kid in the '40, and every day you could see the television transmitters on Mt. Baldy 25 miles away!  Anyone who has flown into the crappy brown skies in the Southern California basin can attest to just how bad the air is!!!!

"and I read that if you get fed up with it all, and want to commit suicide, you can take your new car in the garage, close the garage door, start it up, roll down the windows and the car will run out of gas before it hurts you! WoW."

And who wrote THAT piece of bovine feces?  The ones we found when I was a cop would argue that point with the person.  More importantly, if it that claptrap were true, my daughter would not have had to go to her best friend's funeral last weekend!

Buster

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 20 14:00:12 2007
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:00:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <006b01c84346$3a22a5a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <914985.73386.qm@web38912.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Well Ed- 
   
  If you do not mind parking in the back you can have my space. Like some one stated -  I need the exercise so i do not even try to park close most of time. I have no real schedule so it does not matter how long it takes me. Next time i will try to block two spaces in the back in case you show up. The keys are under the mat just move me over........LOL
   
  Vigil

David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com> wrote:
  > I do have a handicapped tag. I think in the last year i may have used it 
> once when my back was really killing me and i was going in to a store for 
> a short time to get med's. The rest of the time i use the regular parking 
> lot just like every one else. I figure the people that feel bad that day 
> need it more.

Sure, Vigil, YOU have a handicap tag but you have to block a space that I 
could be using instead? Thanks a LOT! Because of you, I get to walk even 
further ;-)
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From Daniel1312 at aol.com  Thu Dec 20 14:22:00 2007
From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:22:00 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
Message-ID: <d3e.1d2e80de.349c36f8@aol.com>

Does anyone know if W E S L A K E do a cell phone?
 
In a message dated 20/12/2007 04:37:46 GMT Standard Time,  bmwwxman at gmail.com 
writes:

cell  phones

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Thu Dec 20 14:33:24 2007
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:33:24 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <d3e.1d2e80de.349c36f8@aol.com>
References: <d3e.1d2e80de.349c36f8@aol.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090712201333t3bb36c81ua05186946f6b25fc@mail.gmail.com>

I'll give you my cell phone number, so you can text "W E S L A K E" to me,
if it will help you out!!!
LOL

Brad

P.S. Keep an eye out, for an envelope full of used stamps, heading your way

On Dec 20, 2007 3:22 PM, <Daniel1312 at aol.com> wrote:

> Does anyone know if W E S L A K E do a cell phone?
>
> In a message dated 20/12/2007 04:37:46 GMT Standard Time,
> bmwwxman at gmail.com
> writes:
>
> cell  phones
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 20 14:36:35 2007
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:36:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <476AAFB2.3040708@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <284771.95641.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

"The chief problem here is that, when they lose control, it may be
YOU what get's thinned!"

  How true - You've got to stay alert and hope that is enough.  New York has a law against using hand-held phones while driving.  My friend who is a cop here says he hands out tickets daily for the offense.  When I lived in Tennessee, I found the situation far worse because there was no law against it there.  Even with the less-populated roads, I ended up dodging some fool wandering into my lane at least once daily.  It was not a rare thing to find I was the only person within site NOT talking on a phone in commuter traffic!  
   
   - David

       
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From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net  Fri Dec 21 02:45:29 2007
From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 01:45:29 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
References: <d3e.1d2e80de.349c36f8@aol.com>
Message-ID: <008101c843b6$3a996760$f675fea9@p0k7l8>

Dunno on the cell phones, but I've heard rumors they do tappet covers.  I
think they're good for putting wheels on and racing them down an inclined
plane.

Paul A

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Daniel1312 at aol.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...


> Does anyone know if W E S L A K E do a cell phone?
>
> In a message dated 20/12/2007 04:37:46 GMT Standard Time,
bmwwxman at gmail.com
> writes:

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Thu Dec 20 14:55:12 2007
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:55:12 -0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <284771.95641.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <007401c84352$ffbf5e50$0201a8c0@Laptop>

Just announced thisevening an intention to
increase the penalty for using a mobile phone
whilst driving to up to 2 years driving ban. That
is twice the normal penalty for driving whilst
over the alcohol limit.

-----Original Message-----
From:
spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.t
eam.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk
@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of David Booker
Sent: 20 December 2007 21:37
To: Spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone
driving...


"The chief problem here is that, when they lose
control, it may be
YOU what get's thinned!"

  How true - You've got to stay alert and hope
that is enough.  New York has a law against using
hand-held phones while driving.  My friend who is
a cop here says he hands out tickets daily for the
offense.  When I lived in Tennessee, I found the
situation far worse because there was no law
against it there.  Even with the less-populated
roads, I ended up dodging some fool wandering into
my lane at least once daily.  It was not a rare
thing to find I was the only person within site
NOT talking on a phone in commuter traffic!

   - David


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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec 20 15:00:58 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:00:58 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
References: <d3e.1d2e80de.349c36f8@aol.com>
	<008101c843b6$3a996760$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
Message-ID: <0e4801c84353$cdf940b0$6401a8c0@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Asgeirsson" <PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net>
To: <Daniel1312 at aol.com>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 3:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...


Dunno on the cell phones, but I've heard rumors they do tappet covers.  I
think they're good for putting wheels on and racing them down an inclined
plane.

Paul A

===============================

BTDT, the flight attendant told me to get the toys out of the aisle.  She 
said I had to sit down and buckle up because we were coming down for a 
landing.

They're getting kinda bitchy these days.

LAD 

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec 20 15:17:48 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:17:48 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
References: <007401c84352$ffbf5e50$0201a8c0@Laptop>
Message-ID: <0e6e01c84356$27d9c210$6401a8c0@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Guy Weller" <guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk>
To: "'David Booker'" <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com>; <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...


Just announced thisevening an intention to
increase the penalty for using a mobile phone
whilst driving to up to 2 years driving ban. That
is twice the normal penalty for driving whilst
over the alcohol limit.

=========================

So tell them you weren't using the phone.  Just say you were drunk and 
forgot you had the phone up to your ear.  Save a year.

Hope that helps.

LAD 

From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net  Fri Dec 21 03:24:22 2007
From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 02:24:22 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
References: <007401c84352$ffbf5e50$0201a8c0@Laptop>
Message-ID: <00be01c843bb$a8d2ed00$f675fea9@p0k7l8>

What's the penalty for talking to yourself?  I do that!  Will it be illegal?

Pa

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Guy Weller" <guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk>
To: "'David Booker'" <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com>; <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...


> Just announced thisevening an intention to
> increase the penalty for using a mobile phone
> whilst driving to up to 2 years driving ban. That
> is twice the normal penalty for driving whilst
> over the alcohol limit.

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Thu Dec 20 15:26:43 2007
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:26:43 -0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <0e6e01c84356$27d9c210$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <000001c84357$669ead70$0201a8c0@Laptop>

LOL.
Don't use a phone in the car - as someone else
said, I cannot hear it ring let alone hear anyone
speak on it in the Sprite!
I also operate on a zero drink tollerance when
driving. Then make up for it when I am not!

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Daniels
[mailto:ladaniels at sbcglobal.net]
Sent: 20 December 2007 22:18
To: Guy Weller; Spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone
driving...



----- Original Message -----
From: "Guy Weller" <guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk>
To: "'David Booker'" <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com>;
<Spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone
driving...


Just announced thisevening an intention to
increase the penalty for using a mobile phone
whilst driving to up to 2 years driving ban. That
is twice the normal penalty for driving whilst
over the alcohol limit.

=========================

So tell them you weren't using the phone.  Just
say you were drunk and
forgot you had the phone up to your ear.  Save a
year.

Hope that helps.

LAD


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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec 20 15:27:06 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:27:06 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
References: <000001c84357$669ead70$0201a8c0@Laptop>
Message-ID: <0e8b01c84357$743fc090$6401a8c0@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Guy Weller" <guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk>
To: "'Larry Daniels'" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>; <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:26 PM
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...


LOL.
Don't use a phone in the car - as someone else
said, I cannot hear it ring let alone hear anyone
speak on it in the Sprite!
I also operate on a zero drink tollerance when
driving. Then make up for it when I am not!

Guy
============================

I don't drink when driving, either.  You could spill your drink.  Always 
pull over.

LAD 

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Thu Dec 20 15:32:12 2007
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:32:12 -0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <00be01c843bb$a8d2ed00$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
Message-ID: <000501c84358$2b4e6480$0201a8c0@Laptop>

My attempts at singing to myself in the car would
carry a heavy penalty.

In the UK, you can also get "done" for eating
whilst driving. No, I don't mean with a knife and
fork, but eating a chocolate bar or an apple.
Never made sense to me when smoking whilst driving
is apparently acceptable.  I am not a smoker but
it always seemed that dropping a sweet bar whilst
driving wouldn't cause a problem, but dropping a
lighted cigarette on one's crotch could cause a
certain degree of distraction.

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Asgeirsson
[mailto:PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net]
Sent: 21 December 2007 10:24
To: Guy Weller; 'David Booker';
Spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone
driving...


What's the penalty for talking to yourself?  I do
that!  Will it be illegal?

Pa

----- Original Message -----
From: "Guy Weller" <guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk>
To: "'David Booker'" <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com>;
<Spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone
driving...


> Just announced thisevening an intention to
> increase the penalty for using a mobile phone
> whilst driving to up to 2 years driving ban.
That
> is twice the normal penalty for driving whilst
> over the alcohol limit.


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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Thu Dec 20 15:34:55 2007
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:34:55 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <000501c84358$2b4e6480$0201a8c0@Laptop>
References: <00be01c843bb$a8d2ed00$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
	<000501c84358$2b4e6480$0201a8c0@Laptop>
Message-ID: <e98d88090712201434i16d8fbcbre5652e8b96fba9e9@mail.gmail.com>

Wow, penalties for eating behind the wheel... What type of fine are you
threatened with for that offense.
I know a girl that changed her clothes while driving. I don't know who was
more distracted, her, or the men around her. She is rather attractive, just
not real bright.

On Dec 20, 2007 4:32 PM, Guy Weller <guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> My attempts at singing to myself in the car would
> carry a heavy penalty.
>
> In the UK, you can also get "done" for eating
> whilst driving. No, I don't mean with a knife and
> fork, but eating a chocolate bar or an apple.
> Never made sense to me when smoking whilst driving
> is apparently acceptable.  I am not a smoker but
> it always seemed that dropping a sweet bar whilst
> driving wouldn't cause a problem, but dropping a
> lighted cigarette on one's crotch could cause a
> certain degree of distraction.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Asgeirsson
> [mailto:PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net]
> Sent: 21 December 2007 10:24
> To: Guy Weller; 'David Booker';
> Spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone
> driving...
>
>
> What's the penalty for talking to yourself?  I do
> that!  Will it be illegal?
>
> Pa
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Guy Weller" <guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk>
> To: "'David Booker'" <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com>;
> <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 1:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone
> driving...
>
>
> > Just announced thisevening an intention to
> > increase the penalty for using a mobile phone
> > whilst driving to up to 2 years driving ban.
> That
> > is twice the normal penalty for driving whilst
> > over the alcohol limit.
>
>
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From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Thu Dec 20 15:40:40 2007
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:40:40 -0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090712201434i16d8fbcbre5652e8b96fba9e9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c84359$59eb43c0$0201a8c0@Laptop>

60 GBP ( thats about $120 isn't it?) and 3 penalty points. Penalty points add
up. when you get to 12 you loose your licence.
 
Guy
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Fornal [mailto:tequila.brad at gmail.com]
Sent: 20 December 2007 22:35
To: Guy Weller
Cc: Paul Asgeirsson; David Booker; Spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...


Wow, penalties for eating behind the wheel... What type of fine are you
threatened with for that offense.
I know a girl that changed her clothes while driving. I don't know who was
more distracted, her, or the men around her. She is rather attractive, just
not real bright.


On Dec 20, 2007 4:32 PM, Guy Weller < HYPERLINK
"mailto:guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk"guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk> wrote:


My attempts at singing to myself in the car would
carry a heavy penalty.

In the UK, you can also get "done" for eating
whilst driving. No, I don't mean with a knife and
fork, but eating a chocolate bar or an apple.
Never made sense to me when smoking whilst driving
is apparently acceptable.  I am not a smoker but
it always seemed that dropping a sweet bar whilst
driving wouldn't cause a problem, but dropping a
lighted cigarette on one's crotch could cause a
certain degree of distraction.


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Asgeirsson

[mailto: HYPERLINK
"mailto:PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net"PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net ]
Sent: 21 December 2007 10:24
To: Guy Weller; 'David Booker';
HYPERLINK "mailto:Spridgets at autox.team.net"Spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone
driving...


What's the penalty for talking to yourself?  I do
that!  Will it be illegal?

Pa

----- Original Message -----
From: "Guy Weller" < HYPERLINK
"mailto:guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk"guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk >
To: "'David Booker'" < HYPERLINK
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Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone
driving...


> Just announced thisevening an intention to
> increase the penalty for using a mobile phone
> whilst driving to up to 2 years driving ban.
That
> is twice the normal penalty for driving whilst
> over the alcohol limit.



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From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Thu Dec 20 15:47:22 2007
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:47:22 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090712201434i16d8fbcbre5652e8b96fba9e9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20071220224724.SOHD27181.hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>

I saw that girl once in my rear view mirror while at a stop and go light
(Milwaukee description of an intersection)...It did brighten my commute
home.

Also, is that why Spridgets never made it to this age?  No cup holders?

Chris

66 MKIII
00 BMW 528iT


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Brad Fornal
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:35 PM
To: Guy Weller
Cc: Spridgets at autox.team.net; Paul Asgeirsson
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...

Wow, penalties for eating behind the wheel... What type of fine are you
threatened with for that offense.
I know a girl that changed her clothes while driving. I don't know who was
more distracted, her, or the men around her. She is rather attractive, just
not real bright.

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Thu Dec 20 15:44:26 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:44:26 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
Message-ID: <380-2200712420224426250@earthlink.net>

Larry Daniels wrote:  "I don't drink when driving, either.  You could spill
your drink.  Always pull over."

I can remember when they had drive-through liquor stores in Mississippi. 
The customers did not adhere to your noble thoughts.

Buster

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Thu Dec 20 15:57:11 2007
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:57:11 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <380-2200712420224426250@earthlink.net>
References: <380-2200712420224426250@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <e98d88090712201457k7e6f26c5p19aa16f8772e6e62@mail.gmail.com>

I pass a drive through beer barn every day, twice........
I said "PASS" Ed, SHUT THE *F* UP!!!

On Dec 20, 2007 4:44 PM, Robert Bruce Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Larry Daniels wrote:  "I don't drink when driving, either.  You could
> spill
> your drink.  Always pull over."
>
> I can remember when they had drive-through liquor stores in Mississippi.
> The customers did not adhere to your noble thoughts.
>
> Buster
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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Thu Dec 20 15:53:10 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:53:10 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
Message-ID: <380-2200712420225310609@earthlink.net>

Guy Weller  wrote:  "In the UK, you can also get "done" for eating whilst
driving. No, I don't mean with a knife and fork, but eating a chocolate bar
or an apple."

It was a couple of years ago when a woman in Essex was at a stop light,
took a drink of bottled water, but had not put it away and got booked for
unsafe driving.

"Never made sense to me when smoking whilst driving is apparently
acceptable."

Well, don't do it now!  It has been illegal since July when Parliament
passed a new law that prohibits smoking while driving a motor vehicle! 
(After they had banned smoking in any enclosed "building", you could not
smoke in a car if there were passengers!)

Buster Evans

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Thu Dec 20 16:00:12 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:00:12 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
References: <380-2200712420224426250@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <00bd01c8435c$13d7c860$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>

> I can remember when they had drive-through liquor stores in Mississippi.
> The customers did not adhere to your noble thoughts.

There is a little strip of West Virginia just west of Pittsburgh. In honor 
of the
Pennsylvania "package stores", there were quite a few drive-through liquor
barns in that stretch of US30, all of whose exits were pointed towards PA
for some reason. 

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Thu Dec 20 16:01:11 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:01:11 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
Message-ID: <380-22007124202311178@earthlink.net>

Brad Fornal wrote:  "I know a girl that changed her clothes while driving."

Idiots I have seen;

.     ---A bonehead with his newspaper spread out on the steering wheel as
he barreled down the freeway!
.     ---(Many times) Dumb broads peering into the rear view mirror while 
using eyelash curlers!
.     ---(Many times) Other dumb broads applying mascara, lipstick, eye
shadow with their eyes glued on the rear view mirror!
.     ---All kinds of people trying to read a book while driving!
.     ---A guy getting head from his girlfriend while driving his Sprite.  
Hmmmmm.  Forget that one.
.     ---A woman turned around in her seat, trying to beat her kids while
driving!

Buster

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Dec 20 16:03:18 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:03:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <C38FC368.135BC%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C38FC368.135BC%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <476AF4B6.4040706@comcast.net>

Billy Zoom wrote:
> I guy out here was run over by a train a couple of weeks ago while talking
> on his phone and pacing back and forth across a railroad crossing.

Let me guess, he didn't see it coming?
I think you can see, hear, and FEEL a train coming from 1/4 mile away.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From peter at nosimport.com  Thu Dec 20 16:11:29 2007
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:11:29 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <380-22007124202311178@earthlink.net>
References: <380-22007124202311178@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071220171023.032614c8@nosimport.com>

At 05:01 PM 12/20/2007, Robert Bruce Evans wrote:
>.     ---A guy getting head from his girlfriend while driving his Sprite.
>Hmmmmm.  Forget that one.
>Buster
====
Musta had a small steering wheel, or sumptin'


ED 

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Thu Dec 20 16:06:45 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:06:45 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
Message-ID: <380-220071242023645921@earthlink.net>

Frank Clarici wrote:  "I think you can see, hear, and FEEL a train coming
from 1/4 mile away."

Oh, I know a certain engineer between San Bernardino and Barstow who uses
STEALTH to creep up and get 'em!!!!

Buster

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Thu Dec 20 16:16:06 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:16:06 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
Message-ID: <380-220071242023166265@earthlink.net>

Peter C  wrote:  "Musta had a small steering wheel, or sumptin'"

Naw, just creative planning, and both getting in the right position just to
prove it could be done!  AND driving at a low speed!  (And, yes, there was
another couple to witness!)

Ah  youth!!!!

Buster

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Dec 20 16:21:02 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:21:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0712201031u43202b58j8202826ef56c0a86@mail.gmail.com>
References: <22788338.1198163497555.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<672350.25114.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<43840a7e0712201031u43202b58j8202826ef56c0a86@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <476AF8DE.5010800@comcast.net>

Jim Johnson wrote:

> Jim - whose parents whipped his ass when he screwed up thereby inflicting
> grave psychological damage...    ;-)


Is that why I am screwed up too?
I still have the reverse imprint of a big ole belt buckle that reads 
"MONTANA" on my ass.
And my old man put me thru a wall for some reason.
My mother yanked out a rather large wad of hair.
And how many days, weeks, months of "confined to your room" , a room 
with no phone, TV, and my parents took the radio out of the room too!
But I never deserved any of this. I am now ruined for life.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 20 16:28:30 2007
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:28:30 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <476AF8DE.5010800@comcast.net>
References: <22788338.1198163497555.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<672350.25114.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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	<476AF8DE.5010800@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10712201528j5e95fc72p13d40561c6c070e4@mail.gmail.com>

Wow...We have the same parents!
Herb

On Dec 20, 2007 3:21 PM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> Jim Johnson wrote:
>
> > Jim - whose parents whipped his ass when he screwed up thereby
> inflicting
> > grave psychological damage...    ;-)
>
>
> Is that why I am screwed up too?
> I still have the reverse imprint of a big ole belt buckle that reads
> "MONTANA" on my ass.
> And my old man put me thru a wall for some reason.
> My mother yanked out a rather large wad of hair.
> And how many days, weeks, months of "confined to your room" , a room
> with no phone, TV, and my parents took the radio out of the room too!
> But I never deserved any of this. I am now ruined for life.
>
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
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From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net  Fri Dec 21 04:29:56 2007
From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 03:29:56 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
References: <22788338.1198163497555.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net><672350.25114.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com><43840a7e0712201031u43202b58j8202826ef56c0a86@mail.gmail.com>
	<476AF8DE.5010800@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <017c01c843c4$d19038c0$f675fea9@p0k7l8>

I agree!  I've seen you!  LOL!

When I screwed up anywhere in the neighborhood, playing in the street or
someones home, my Mom knew all about it by the time I got home!  My side of
the story made NO difference.  The jury of one had me about strung up
already.

Pa

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...


and my parents took the radio out of the room too!
> But I never deserved any of this. I am now ruined for life.

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 20 16:34:02 2007
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:34:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <00be01c843bb$a8d2ed00$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
Message-ID: <664205.53601.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I think the penalty is having to listen to yourself. 
   
  I am guilty of the same thing too.
   
  The bad part is when i for get my lady is in the car. 
   
  She get
   
  LOL
   
  Vigil

Paul Asgeirsson <PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net> wrote:
  What's the penalty for talking to yourself? I do that! Will it be illegal?

Pa

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Guy Weller" 
To: "'David Booker'" ; 
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...


> Just announced thisevening an intention to
> increase the penalty for using a mobile phone
> whilst driving to up to 2 years driving ban. That
> is twice the normal penalty for driving whilst
> over the alcohol limit.
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From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Dec 20 17:55:48 2007
From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:55:48 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
References: <380-22007124202311178@earthlink.net>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20071220171023.032614c8@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <0d0801c8436c$3a4fdae0$6501a8c0@actualshop>

<<t 05:01 PM 12/20/2007, Robert Bruce Evans wrote:
>.     ---A guy getting head from his girlfriend while driving his Sprite.
>Hmmmmm.  Forget that one.
>Buster
====
Musta had a small steering wheel, or sumptin'

ED>>

NO steering wheel, PPP.  Vise-grips on the column!!!    Duh!!

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Dec 20 17:58:03 2007
From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:58:03 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
References: <380-2200712420224426250@earthlink.net>
	<e98d88090712201457k7e6f26c5p19aa16f8772e6e62@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0d1001c8436c$8a848a10$6501a8c0@actualshop>

<<I pass a drive through beer barn every day, twice........
I said "PASS" Ed, SHUT THE *F* UP!!!
>>

Nope BUT I do beleive you Brad!!

Place only sells BEER and NO to-kill-ya!!!!

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Dec 20 18:00:12 2007
From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:00:12 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
References: <000501c84358$2b4e6480$0201a8c0@Laptop>
Message-ID: <0d1d01c8436c$d76d1b80$6501a8c0@actualshop>

<<but dropping a lighted cigarette on one's crotch could cause a
certain degree of distraction.>>

Not over here, Guy!!  Has to be McDonald's (duh!) coffee!!!  Everything else
is "weak"!!!

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Dec 20 18:02:41 2007
From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:02:41 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
References: <380-2200712420163951562@earthlink.net><002801c84329$16767040$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov><43840a7e0712200906o38911a65n41a88c9ef70c9632@mail.gmail.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20071220111601.032be658@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <0d2501c8436d$304fc6d0$6501a8c0@actualshop>

<<I can't quite get my head close enough too see it.">>

Musta been a cheesehead!!

Down here he woulda just stuck a mirror out the window and read you the #
backwards and upside down, Peter.

Geesh, cheeseheads have NO imagination !!!

DL

From dwramsey at att.net  Thu Dec 20 18:09:16 2007
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:09:16 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Calif. EPA bureaucrats jobless?
In-Reply-To: <380-2200712420205017468@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20071221011017.71A7D187A4B@autox.team.net>

In 1966 I would visit my grandmother who lived on Glenwood Rd in Glendale
her house was three blocks from Hoover High school. On a clear day you could
see the school, but most days were not "clear".  Still today when I visit
the area coming over the grapevine tears come to my eyes. At first I think
I'm just being nostalgic, and then I remember what the Indians called the LA
basin, "valley of the smoke".
		Crash 
Ps anybody wanting to die in LA need only to drive 55mph on the I-5 Golden
state freeway and flip off anybody who honks their horn at them.  They will
be removed from the gene pool quick.  

Bob Gardner wrote:  "The air is amazingly clean now...."

Compared to WHAT, Bob.  I will tell you one thing, the Southern California
air it is NOT as clean as it was when I was a kid in the '40, and every day
you could see the television transmitters on Mt. Baldy 25 miles away!
Anyone who has flown into the crappy brown skies in the Southern California
basin can attest to just how bad the air is!!!!

"and I read that if you get fed up with it all, and want to commit suicide,
you can take your new car in the garage, close the garage door, start it up,
roll down the windows and the car will run out of gas before it hurts you!
WoW."

And who wrote THAT piece of bovine feces?  The ones we found when I was a
cop would argue that point with the person.  More importantly, if it that
claptrap were true, my daughter would not have had to go to her best
friend's funeral last weekend!

Buster

From dwramsey at att.net  Thu Dec 20 18:12:42 2007
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:12:42 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <d3e.1d2e80de.349c36f8@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20071221011343.0889B187A17@autox.team.net>

They sure do it is a reproduction of their old WESTLAKE pay phone model.
		Crash

Does anyone know if W E S L A K E do a cell phone?

From herby at herbytoys.com  Thu Dec 20 18:28:58 2007
From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:28:58 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <22788338.1198163497555.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <002f01c84370$dd6c2770$6601a8c0@HERBYZ>

That same thing happened a few blocks from my work. Amtrak rolling through
and an 18-19 year old kid with headphones plugged into his cellphone. The
speculation was he was listening to music. Either way it was stupid. It was
all over the local radio talk shows. Most agreed that he was stupid. I feel
sorry for his family to have to endure it all.

Herby
63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting)
62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver)
00 Dakota R/T (the new toy)
herby at herbytoys.com
www.herbytoys.com


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+herby=herbytoys.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+herby=herbytoys.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
type79 at ix.netcom.com
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 7:12 AM
To: Spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...

Was that a commuter train?

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/

-----Original Message-----
>From: Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
>Sent: Dec 20, 2007 9:59 AM
>To: dmg at bossig.com, Spridgets at autox.team.net, midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com,
bugeye at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
>
>I guy out here was run over by a train a couple of weeks ago while talking
>on his phone and pacing back and forth across a railroad crossing.

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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Thu Dec 20 18:32:18 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:32:18 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Calif. EPA bureaucrats jobless?
Message-ID: <380-220071252113218453@earthlink.net>

David Ramsey wrote:  "In 1966 I would visit my grandmother who lived on
Glenwood Rd in Glendale....but most days were not "clear".

1966?  Good grief!  That is current events.  I am referring to 1945-55 when
the mountains were to be seen every day!  From that point on, it was all
downhill.

" I remember what the Indians called the LA basin, "valley of the smoke"."

I'm afraid that there is *no* scholarly research that finds this Urban
Legend has any validity.  So until there is, it must remain one of those
rumors and cute sayings people drag out.

Buster

From herby at herbytoys.com  Thu Dec 20 18:52:55 2007
From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:52:55 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <380-2200712420224426250@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <003501c84374$363f8920$6601a8c0@HERBYZ>

I can remember when they had drive-through liquor stores in Mississippi. 
The customers did not adhere to your noble thoughts.

Buster
_______________________________________________

Yeah, my wife and I experienced that in Louisiana years ago. They taped the
drivers (me) straw down. Yeah, that works  /:P

Herby
63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting)
62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver)
00 Dakota R/T (the new toy)
herby at herbytoys.com
www.herbytoys.com


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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Thu Dec 20 19:03:25 2007
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:03:25 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <00be01c843bb$a8d2ed00$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
Message-ID: <C3905EED.1364B%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> penalty for talking to yourself?
I sometimes put on the Cell phone earpiece so I can talk to myself in public
without being stared at. I rarely tell myself anything I didn't already
know, but I occasionally bring up things I'd forgotten.

From dmg at bossig.com  Thu Dec 20 19:19:12 2007
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:19:12 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <C3905EED.1364B%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <00be01c843bb$a8d2ed00$f675fea9@p0k7l8>,
	<C3905EED.1364B%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <476AB220.30402.23C0C46@dmg.bossig.com>

Talking to yourself.... no problem.
Arguing with yourself.... no problem
Arguing with yourself and losing.?.. NOW you got a problem..!!.

dmg

On 20 Dec 2007 at 18:03, Billy Zoom wrote:

>> > penalty for talking to yourself?
>> I sometimes put on the Cell phone earpiece so I can talk to myself in public
>> without being stared at.

-
Dave G, KK7SS
'65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Thu Dec 20 19:26:01 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:26:01 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] More and crazier Brit laws
Message-ID: <380-22007125212261875@earthlink.net>

The Crown Prosecution Service today announced new policies for the coming year.  Still, I think that the English drivers are generally better than Americans, and with fewer accidents.
Dangerous driving 
Maximum penalty of up to two years jail 
 racing or competitive driving 
 reading a newspaper 
 sudden change of lane 
Careless driving 
Penalty points, #2,500 fine, possible ban 
 tuning the radio 
 lighting a cigarette, if avoidably distracted 
Inconsiderate driving 
Penalty points, community #2,500 fine 
 driving a bus in a way that alarms passengers 
 driving with lights on full beam 
 driving through a puddle, splashing pedestrians 
For the full incredible story, see  http://tinyurl.com/2tr7xc 
Buster

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Dec 20 19:41:15 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:41:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Christmas Cheer
Message-ID: <476B27CB.40609@comcast.net>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi_NhFS4xEE

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec 20 19:48:39 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:48:39 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Christmas Cheer
References: <476B27CB.40609@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <0f0501c8437b$fdfd6660$6401a8c0@Larry>

The Ron Soave Orchestra was a nice touch.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 8:41 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Christmas Cheer


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi_NhFS4xEE
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Dec 20 19:51:56 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:51:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Winshield wiper fail points
In-Reply-To: <EA1FDC5F-BCC8-4988-8A8B-3C2D7277925F@dartmouth.edu>
References: <mailman.39714.1198109878.12556.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<EA1FDC5F-BCC8-4988-8A8B-3C2D7277925F@dartmouth.edu>
Message-ID: <476B2A4C.5020507@comcast.net>

Check for a kink in the rack tubes, old grease or no grease in the tubes 
and the wheel boxes do come apart with a suitable punch (out of the car 
and on the work bench)

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Dec 20 19:53:20 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:53:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Calif. EPA bureaucrats jobless?
In-Reply-To: <380-220071252113218453@earthlink.net>
References: <380-220071252113218453@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <476B2AA0.1060601@comcast.net>

Robert Bruce Evans wrote:

> " I remember what the Indians called the LA basin, "valley of the smoke"."
> 
> I'm afraid that there is *no* scholarly research that finds this Urban
> Legend has any validity.  So until there is, it must remain one of those
> rumors and cute sayings people drag out.

But I read it here on the internet. So it MUST be true.
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Thu Dec 20 20:47:58 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:47:58 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Calif. EPA bureaucrats jobless?
In-Reply-To: <476B2AA0.1060601@comcast.net>
References: <380-220071252113218453@earthlink.net>
	<476B2AA0.1060601@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <476B376E.2010709@earthlink.net>

Frank Clarici wrote:  "But I read it here on the internet. So it MUST be 
true."

Yeah, but we have all read on the Internet that Frank Clarici does not 
nick headlight rings in Anaheim, California, and we all know THAT'S a 
lie, too!!!!  Especially since he had the effrontery to post a photo of 
one of his project cars, and there was the headlight ring on the floor 
of the garage!!!

Buster

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Dec 20 20:54:45 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:54:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite tweaking 101
Message-ID: <476B3905.6080908@comcast.net>

So after hammering out the dents in a really hammered fender, but one 
that was long enough to match the bonnet, I tried to make the final 
adjustments and clearances between fender and bonnet with the right 
fender not co-operating at all.
I just could not get the bonnet straight with proper fender clearance.
And I knew leaving it as was would just chip the paint every time I 
opened the bonnet.
So tonight I nailed a 2x12 across a few ceiling beams and port-o-powered 
the fender down.
Now picture this, the Sprite is on 2 tall jack stands in the back and a 
spackle bucket in the middle up front. So jacking down from inside the 
headlamp hole makes the car pivot. Now I go around back and push on the 
left rear quarter to tweak the right fender.
After several attempts, and a visit by the local building inspector 
(pleasure, not business) we got the fender where it needed to be.
Tighten the bolts, put a tack weld in a couple of spots to keep it there
And now I can finish up the body work.
I am beginning to think this 67 was crushed once and hammered back into 
a reasonable facsimile of a Sprite in some past life.
The frame rails are where they should be but the whole car needed lots 
of tweaking. I am glad I am tweaking before paint.
I am also going to index the bonnet with a couple of pins to aid in 
future R&R of it.
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net  Thu Dec 20 21:08:41 2007
From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:08:41 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Calif. EPA bureaucrats jobless?
References: <380-220071252113218453@earthlink.net><476B2AA0.1060601@comcast.net>
	<476B376E.2010709@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <02e601c84387$32ec6be0$6501a8c0@actualshop>

<<and there was the headlight ring on the floor of the garage!!!>>

Er, Mr. Policeman, Ret.,  you do NOT make a case as you say "the" and not
"his",

therefore Frank must be (and I use the word VERY loosely) "innocent" !!

Your "report" writing is suffering!!!

David

From nory1 at adelphia.net  Thu Dec 20 22:09:32 2007
From: nory1 at adelphia.net (Nory)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:09:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Vote for cute kid
Message-ID: <2455056C-14F7-4204-994A-D1FBB248EAAE@adelphia.net>

Hey everybody!  Help my little 1-year-old great niece with a photo  
contest --- please?  Go to the website at http:// 
shportraits.blogspot.com/2007/12/blog-banner-contest_11.html

and vote for photo number 1.  Voting ends tomorrow and we need a big  
push of votes if she's to win.

Thanks gang!

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Thu Dec 20 23:27:43 2007
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:27:43 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Christmas Cheer
In-Reply-To: <476B27CB.40609@comcast.net>
References: <476B27CB.40609@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <441250190712202227q6018156exb2cf47281fe52825@mail.gmail.com>

Ok, was it only me or was that young lady with the baby hot?

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>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi_NhFS4xEE
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Fri Dec 21 01:58:07 2007
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 02:58:07 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite tweaking 101
In-Reply-To: <476B3905.6080908@comcast.net>
References: <476B3905.6080908@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <e98d88090712210058g78e53193wf88744ead6ba680b@mail.gmail.com>

Just like from the factory.........

LOL

I have not seen any photos lately. As soon as you have some to share, please
do.

Brad

On Dec 20, 2007 9:54 PM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

>
> I am also going to index the bonnet with a couple of pins to aid in
> future R&R of it.
> --
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> Toms River, NJ
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From pilotrob at msn.com  Fri Dec 21 05:26:06 2007
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 12:26:06 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Calif. EPA bureaucrats jobless?
Message-ID: <BAY116-DAV11D7BF1A15A6933C971E76D45E0@phx.gbl>

The air over the USA will never be as clean
as it was in the 40's in our lifetime anyway, 
and with China and other countries going through THEIR industrial development cycles, I doubt it will be for some time.

But having flown the NYC Metro area since
the mid-60's, I can tell you truthfully that this particular airspace IS a helluvalot cleaner today than it was back in late 60's.

Of course, this area is hardly a "bowl "confined" by mountains.

CapBob

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Dec 21 09:53:58 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 10:53:58 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Christmas Cheer
In-Reply-To: <441250190712202227q6018156exb2cf47281fe52825@mail.gmail.com>
References: <476B27CB.40609@comcast.net>
	<441250190712202227q6018156exb2cf47281fe52825@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712210853r33b7d600s92e4f202883a0631@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/21/07, Bill Gilroy <wmgilroy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ok, was it only me or was that young lady with the baby hot?
>

Not getting out much these days, eh Bill?
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From nases at verizon.net  Fri Dec 21 12:56:34 2007
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 14:56:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] auto auction incl Bugeyes
Message-ID: <003201c8440b$97147b10$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com>

>From a yahoo lister, there is an auction in PA close to my neck of the woods
auctioning off some classics including bugeyes in January.
 
http://www.alderferauction.com/contents/upcomingdetails.aspx?EventId=967
 

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Dec 21 13:03:25 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 14:03:25 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] auto auction incl Bugeyes
In-Reply-To: <003201c8440b$97147b10$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com>
References: <003201c8440b$97147b10$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712211203n331c6f5aqb2ed439f8b686cbb@mail.gmail.com>

Cool!!  Okay Phil...  For Xmas you can get me either the Red BE or the MG
TD. I'm not picky....   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On 12/21/07, Phil Nase <nases at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> >From a yahoo lister, there is an auction in PA close to my neck of the
> woods
> auctioning off some classics including bugeyes in January.
>
> http://www.alderferauction.com/contents/upcomingdetails.aspx?EventId=967
>
>
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From abcoz at hky.com  Fri Dec 21 15:19:53 2007
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 17:19:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <00bd01c8435c$13d7c860$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <006101c8441f$9cd467e0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Well, not in the last 40 years, or so.  But what there was an abundance
of, on the (approximately) 3 mile stretch of route 30 (which I routinely
travel over), was "beer joints", where 18 yr old PA residents could
drink (3.2%) beer legally.  And, at a lot of those places, you needed to
fight your way in and shoot your way out!  Same thing on route 40,
between Wheeling and the PA line.  
And, yeah, back in the day I visited them all, on one evening or the
next.....we're only young, dumb and immortal, simultaneously, for a very
brief time.

Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
David Lieb
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 6:00 PM
To: Spridget List
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Use your cell phone driving...

> I can remember when they had drive-through liquor stores in
Mississippi.
> The customers did not adhere to your noble thoughts.

There is a little strip of West Virginia just west of Pittsburgh. In
honor 
of the
Pennsylvania "package stores", there were quite a few drive-through
liquor
barns in that stretch of US30, all of whose exits were pointed towards
PA
for some reason. 
_______________________________________________

From dwramsey at att.net  Fri Dec 21 14:24:16 2007
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:24:16 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] auto auction incl Bugeyes
In-Reply-To: <003201c8440b$97147b10$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com>
Message-ID: <20071221212523.36E67187B0B@autox.team.net>

Wow, that collection puts the National Auto Museum here in Reno to shame. I
need to plan a vacation to come back and look at the rest of the
"collection" or was that it.
		Crash

>From a yahoo lister, there is an auction in PA close to my neck of the
woods
auctioning off some classics including bugeyes in January.
 
http://www.alderferauction.com/contents/upcomingdetails.aspx?EventId=967
 

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sat Dec 22 06:38:14 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 07:38:14 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Christmas stamps.....blonds
Message-ID: <110b01c8449f$e771c1a0$6401a8c0@Larry>

A blonde goes to the post office to buy stamps for her Christmas cards.
She says to the clerk, "May I have 50 Christmas stamps?"
The clerk says, "What denomination?"
The blonde says, "God help us. Has it come to this?  Give me 6 Catholic, 12
Presbyterian, 10 Lutheran and 22 Baptists."

 HAPPY HOLIDAY

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sat Dec 22 07:35:27 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 08:35:27 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] auto auction incl Bugeyes
References: <003201c8440b$97147b10$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com>
Message-ID: <00d301c844a7$e575f800$0401a8c0@midget>

"...ten 1961 (??) Bugeye Sprites (one with Judson Supercharger)..."
So THAT'S what happened to all of the 1961 Bugeyes! 

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sat Dec 22 12:13:23 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 11:13:23 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] RE: Bugeye Group..... Re: Use your
 cell phone driving...
Message-ID: <380-2200712622191323250@earthlink.net>

Someone wrote: Too many people feel they have the right to be taken care of. end of story

That is because we live in the Age of Entitlement. It seems that far too many people believe that they are entitled to something, especially from the Government. That is exactly the reason the Federal budget is out of whack and will NEVER be in balance. At this point, two-thirds of the Federal budget consist of entitlements that are fixed in the budget year after year, and which would literally take an act of Congress to eliminate. And what are these entitlements?

.    --Federal employee retirement benefits
.    --Special education to the school for developmentally handicapped
.    --Federal aid to economically disadvantaged schools
.    --Migrant education
.    --Other education issues
.    --Interest on the deficit in Federal spending
.    --Federal employees and retirees health benefits
.    --Certain veterans benefits
.    --Certain unemployment benefits
.    --Certain social services
.    --Certain community developments
.    --Medicaid health benefits for those who cannot afford it
.    --Medicare
.    --Social Security

Of course the budget could be balanced by eliminating ALL discretionary spending for defense, homeland security, justice, veterans benefits, highways, unemployment bene-fits, the environment, social services, community development, energy, international aid, science research, and farm subsidies.
The big problem is that people now feel entitled to some aspect of Federal money, and want to be taken care of by Government. And woe betide anyone who tries to take it from them! It is so much easier for gutless politicians NOT to make hard decisions!

Buster Evans

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sat Dec 22 12:28:58 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 13:28:58 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] RE: Bugeye Group..... Re: Use your
 cell phone driving...
References: <380-2200712622191323250@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <117c01c844d0$e69c2be0$6401a8c0@Larry>

Did you take a "crabby old fart" pill today, Buster?




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Bruce Evans" <b-evans at earthlink.net>
To: <midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>; <bugeye at yahoogroups.com>; 
<Spridgets at autox.team.net>; <midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] RE: Bugeye Group..... Re: Use your 
cell phone driving...


Someone wrote: Too many people feel they have the right to be taken care 
of. end of story

That is because we live in the Age of Entitlement. It seems that far too 
many people believe that they are entitled to something, especially from 
the Government. That is exactly the reason the Federal budget is out of 
whack and will NEVER be in balance. At this point, two-thirds of the Federal 
budget consist of entitlements that are fixed in the budget year after 
year, and which would literally take an act of Congress to eliminate. And 
what are these entitlements?

.    --Federal employee retirement benefits
.    --Special education to the school for developmentally handicapped
.    --Federal aid to economically disadvantaged schools
.    --Migrant education
.    --Other education issues
.    --Interest on the deficit in Federal spending
.    --Federal employees and retirees health benefits
.    --Certain veterans benefits
.    --Certain unemployment benefits
.    --Certain social services
.    --Certain community developments
.    --Medicaid health benefits for those who cannot afford it
.    --Medicare
.    --Social Security

Of course the budget could be balanced by eliminating ALL discretionary 
spending for defense, homeland security, justice, veterans benefits, 
highways, unemployment bene-fits, the environment, social services, 
community development, energy, international aid, science research, and farm 
subsidies.
The big problem is that people now feel entitled to some aspect of Federal 
money, and want to be taken care of by Government. And woe betide anyone 
who tries to take it from them! It is so much easier for gutless politicians 
NOT to make hard decisions!

Buster Evans
You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net

http://www.team.net/archive

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From dmg at bossig.com  Sat Dec 22 12:48:45 2007
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 11:48:45 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] RE: Bugeye Group..... Re: Use your
 cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <380-2200712622191323250@earthlink.net>
References: <380-2200712622191323250@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <476CF99D.23137.DFA403@dmg.bossig.com>

Buster,

With no disrespect...
For almost 50 years the government, without my consent, took money from 
my hard earned income under an enforced contract "guaranteeing" that I 
would not want for the basics of life when I could no longer work.
And, as a member of the RAF for less that 20 years, I do not receive any 
military benefits; nor does that  service qualifuy me for US Veterans 
benefits
As a Contract worker for most of my life I do not enjoy the luxury of a 
company pension. Which is a different subject.
I therefore think and maintain that I have earned, and deserve, that small, 
taxed, income that I get from the government which derives from those 
years of enforced deductions...

Again, I say this with all respect to all, including the double, and triple, 
dippers that I know of in my local community ....

dmg

On 22 Dec 2007 at 11:13, Robert Bruce Evans wrote:

>> .    --Medicare
>> .    --Social Security

-
Dave G, KK7SS
'65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sat Dec 22 13:59:54 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 12:59:54 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] RE: Bugeye Group..... Re: Use your
 cell phone driving...
Message-ID: <380-2200712622205954421@earthlink.net>

Dave G. wrote: "I therefore think and maintain that I have earned, and
deserve, that small, taxed, income that I get from the government which
derives from those years of enforced deductions..."

Oh, absolutely, no disagreement there!  That is YOUR money that the
Government to guarantee you what was promised.  However, from that initial
concept, Congress has added so many other things that pay for entitlements
NOT covered by that social compact, and to pay to people who have not put
money into an account!  At the same time, Government *confiscates* money
deposited if the employee does not meet its new requirements.  My wife, for
example was not covered by Social Security when teaching.  She did have
money that was taken for non-teaching jobs.  But because she had
accumulated only 39 of the 40 quarters required, she is denied any Social
Security benefits, *and* the Government will not return the money it
confiscated!

As far as your promised benefits from being in the RAF, well you know how
the taxpayer in England is being screwed right and left by the socialists
of New Labour.  AND they are taking away more and more retirement benefits
every year (just last month, "stay at home mothers".

Buster

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sat Dec 22 14:17:28 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 13:17:28 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Entitlements
Message-ID: <380-2200712622211728984@earthlink.net>

Jim Johnson wrote:  "As a 41 year federal employee, I paid into the retirement"

But do Federal employees pay retroactively for "enhancements" added during their employment?

"I sure haven't seen much lavish spending at the VA hospitals."

THAT is not an entitlement. It is *discretionary* and can be changed from year to year. One of the problems with VA hospitals is that Congress has opened them to veterans NEVER injured on duty, even if they only made it through boot camp.
The VA home loan program doesn't cost the tax payer much at all since all it does is guarantee the veteran's loan - the vet still pays a mortgage just like everyone else.
But if the veteran defaults, the Government guarantees pay the full balance to the lender.
I hold that we owe our veterans*something* because they sure don't get much in the pay envelope. Remember, a veteran is someone who writes a blank check to the rest of us for an amount up to and including their life.... What monetary value do you put on that?
I know others do not agree, but my belief is that the people of the United States never owed me a cent for the four years I spent in the service to *my* country.--- We may have been destitute when I was in college, but at least I stood by *my personal principles. 

Finally, people pay into - read: *purchase* - Medicare and Social Security.--- But, as I pointed out to Dave G., they Government grants the same entitlement to people who never paid into the system, and *confiscates* the money of those who did not work sufficient quarters!
Buster
,_._,___ 

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Sat Dec 22 14:47:29 2007
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 15:47:29 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Todays LBC content, question
Message-ID: <001b01c844e4$40023d60$c7a1bf46@personal>

I just bought an engine and gearbox, complete and running with all assesories,
when pulled last year, with the number 9CG-DA-H23732 and the cylinder head
12A185.

I understand what the engine number means. It came from an Midget MK I, close
ratio gears, high compression, 9.1. My question is that head, seems it is a
Cooper S head is it not?

From hal at katemuir.com  Sat Dec 22 15:14:47 2007
From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 14:14:47 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Todays LBC content, question
In-Reply-To: <001b01c844e4$40023d60$c7a1bf46@personal>
Message-ID: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFOEIGFIAA.hal@katemuir.com>

According to Vizard (3rd ed., p 167):
12A185 was an early "S" casting, coded "yellow."  It should have 1.4"
intakes and 1.15" exhaust.  But it may have 1.218" ex.  The text is a bit
confusing.  If it has the larger ex valves you will want to check for cracks
between the valves.  It is also (apparently) a big bore head, thus not
original to your 9CG engine.

Hal


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of
Jack Laird
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 1:47 PM
To: spridgets net
Subject: [Spridgets] Todays LBC content, question


I just bought an engine and gearbox, complete and running with all
assesories,
when pulled last year, with the number 9CG-DA-H23732 and the cylinder head
12A185.

I understand what the engine number means. It came from an Midget MK I,
close
ratio gears, high compression, 9.1. My question is that head, seems it is a
Cooper S head is it not?

From pdx.pete at verizon.net  Sat Dec 22 15:18:28 2007
From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (Peter Shull)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 14:18:28 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Entitlements
References: <380-2200712622211728984@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <002b01c844e8$94b59a10$280b6f47@DBKF4T81>

For some people, Social Security can be a pretty sweet deal ... it all 
depends on how long they live.

My mother is now 93 and has been collecting SS for 28 years now. No mistake 
about it, she does need that money. However there's no way in heck she or 
the school systems for which she worked put enough money into SS down 
through the years to cover what she's received.

Very rough calculations tell me that my employers and I have contributed an 
amount that, on the surface, equals a little over 8 years of SS benefits 
for. Granted, all this assumes that I retire at age 66, incorporates some 
rough extrapolations, doesn't factor in an interest rate (which has been 
running, what, under 3 % per annum), etc., etc. This means that once I hit 
age 75 or 76 I will likely have depleted any monies contributed to SS by 
myself or my various employers. From there on out it's gonna take someone 
else's money.

As I said, for some folks it turns out to be a good "purchase", mandatory or 
not.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Dec 22 15:37:43 2007
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 14:37:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Todays LBC content, question
In-Reply-To: <001b01c844e4$40023d60$c7a1bf46@personal>
Message-ID: <406820.93425.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- Jack Laird <jlaird237 at cox.net> wrote:

> 12A185.....My question is
> that head, seems it is a
> Cooper S head is it not

I think it is listed as such in Vizard's book, but
I've never heard from anywhere else that it is, and in
fact is supposedly prone to cracking and avoided by
some. I have several, and have found them to be
neither great performing nor prone to cracking. 

Ron


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From dwramsey at att.net  Sat Dec 22 16:59:21 2007
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 15:59:21 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Todays LBC content, question
In-Reply-To: <001b01c844e4$40023d60$c7a1bf46@personal>
Message-ID: <20071223000036.BD3061879D0@autox.team.net>

As I recall off hand that is a late 1098 head, the 206 head was the early
1098 and copper S.
		Crash


I just bought an engine and gearbox, complete and running with all
assesories,
when pulled last year, with the number 9CG-DA-H23732 and the cylinder head
12A185.

I understand what the engine number means. It came from an Midget MK I,
close
ratio gears, high compression, 9.1. My question is that head, seems it is a
Cooper S head is it not?
_______________________________________________

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sat Dec 22 18:32:23 2007
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:32:23 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Merry Chistmas and God's Blessings!
Message-ID: <380-220071202313223140@earthlink.net>

Well, folks, Pam and I are heading out to Provo, Utah, to celebrate Christmas with out grandson who is in school in the snowy weather.  So we will be taking him out to Christmas breakfast and dinner at MacDonalds...if there is one open!  We will be back next Thursday, so may I take this opportunity to wish the very best of His Blessings to you and to your families as we celebrate the birth of his Son.

Good health, good luck, and God's blessings on one and all.

Buster and Pam Evans

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sat Dec 22 18:45:58 2007
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:45:58 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Merry Chistmas and God's Blessings!
In-Reply-To: <380-220071202313223140@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <C392FDD6.13704%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

It'll be disturbingly cheerful without you. Hurry back.

> will be back next Thursday, so may I take this opportunity to wish the very
> best of His Blessings to you and to your families as we celebrate the birth of
> his Son.
> 
> Good health, good luck, and God's blessings on one and all.
> 
> Buster and Pam Evans

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Sat Dec 22 20:56:56 2007
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 19:56:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] RE: Bugeye Group..... Re: Use your
 cell phone driving...
In-Reply-To: <380-2200712622205954421@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <862764.7947.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

What tops the books for me is the government employee that is getting their salary for the rest of  - what seems for ever for every one in there family. They should be on SS just like every one else. I figure  - Yes they were voted in - But no one gets 100% of the vote - so why do they get this topping on the cake - and the rest of us do not?
   
  Vigil

Robert Bruce Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:
  Dave G. wrote: "I therefore think and maintain that I have earned, and
deserve, that small, taxed, income that I get from the government which
derives from those years of enforced deductions..."

Oh, absolutely, no disagreement there! That is YOUR money that the
Government to guarantee you what was promised. However, from that initial
concept, Congress has added so many other things that pay for entitlements
NOT covered by that social compact, and to pay to people who have not put
money into an account! At the same time, Government *confiscates* money
deposited if the employee does not meet its new requirements. My wife, for
example was not covered by Social Security when teaching. She did have
money that was taken for non-teaching jobs. But because she had
accumulated only 39 of the 40 quarters required, she is denied any Social
Security benefits, *and* the Government will not return the money it
confiscated!

As far as your promised benefits from being in the RAF, well you know how
the taxpayer in England is being screwed right and left by the socialists
of New Labour. AND they are taking away more and more retirement benefits
every year (just last month, "stay at home mothers".

Buster
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From MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com  Sat Dec 22 21:08:38 2007
From: MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com (MICHAEL CARPENTER)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 23:08:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] RE: Bugeye Group..... Re: Use your
 cell phone driving...
References: <862764.7947.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <004701c84519$7f1daf90$a6aef904@D1PWFG61>

I think that I know this one . . . Because they can? ;^))

MC
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com>
To: <b-evans at earthlink.net>; "Dave G." <dmg at bossig.com>; 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] RE: Bugeye Group..... Re: Use your 
cell phone driving...


> What tops the books for me is the government employee that is getting 
> their salary for the rest of  - what seems for ever for every one in there 
> family. They should be on SS just like every one else. I figure  - Yes 
> they were voted in - But no one gets 100% of the vote - so why do they get 
> this topping on the cake - and the rest of us do not?
>
>  Vigil
>
> Robert Bruce Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:
>  Dave G. wrote: "I therefore think and maintain that I have earned, and
> deserve, that small, taxed, income that I get from the government which
> derives from those years of enforced deductions..."
>
> Oh, absolutely, no disagreement there! That is YOUR money that the
> Government to guarantee you what was promised. However, from that initial
> concept, Congress has added so many other things that pay for entitlements
> NOT covered by that social compact, and to pay to people who have not put
> money into an account! At the same time, Government *confiscates* money
> deposited if the employee does not meet its new requirements. My wife, for
> example was not covered by Social Security when teaching. She did have
> money that was taken for non-teaching jobs. But because she had
> accumulated only 39 of the 40 quarters required, she is denied any Social
> Security benefits, *and* the Government will not return the money it
> confiscated!
>
> As far as your promised benefits from being in the RAF, well you know how
> the taxpayer in England is being screwed right and left by the socialists
> of New Labour. AND they are taking away more and more retirement benefits
> every year (just last month, "stay at home mothers".
>
> Buster

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Dec 23 00:06:27 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 01:06:27 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Last few days to vote and support the cause!!
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712222306o3be4fce5y3322896c0c6abc39@mail.gmail.com>

All,

We have until the last day of the year to vote in the Practical Classics
reader-restored car contest.

For those who do not know, Practical Classics Magazine holds an annual
contest to select the best reader restored car from their 12 feature issues.
In this year's contest, Buster Evan's "BusterCluster" Sprite is in the
running (October article) and Buster has generously agreed to donate the
winings to help finance the "50 Years of Spridgets" event at Lake of the
Ozarks in 2008 *IF* the BusterCluster car wins!!

The voting is via email or via the Practical Classics web forum. Anyone can
vote...   The cut-off is December 31st.  To help out, please send an email
to

<pc.competitions at emap.com>

The email should be as follows:

Subject: Best Reader-Restored car

Text: 1960 Austin Healey Frogeye Sprite from the BusterCluster

Your name...

Vote early and often  ;-)

If you have any other online lists that might help out, please forward this
message to them. Several of my personal lists have helped by sending emails
even though they are not car related lists.

Many Thanks in advance!!
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From pilotrob at msn.com  Sun Dec 23 07:33:50 2007
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 14:33:50 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Oils
Message-ID: <BAY116-DAV10D39F92A8C188CE5B0124D4580@phx.gbl>

Had a longish talk with George French of Oil Extreme the other day about the
lack of
ZDDP in modern oil, including Oil Extreme.

Oil Extreme is bereft of ZDDP because it quite simply doesn't nedd it by way
of it's formula and technology as an extreme pressure lubricant in and of
itself to begin with, having an extremely high Total Base Number (film
strength) which in and of itself PREVENTS metal/metal contact.

This shows up on the dyno in terms of a reduction in engine friction leading
to an increase in HP, as proven by David Vizard and Grassroots in their
continuous tests of this product with all types of engines at various
mileages.

All info on this is available on the Oil Extreme website and George welcomes
all
challenges in this respect. He also welcomes
all phone calls....very approachable.

According to Mr. French:
Oil Extreme is not subject to "drainoff" in the case of a vehicle stored.
considering that after use over a couple of thousand miles, this product
permeates the asperities  in metal surfaces.

Dave Vizard was so impressed with his dyno results (along with all others)
that he
purchased stock in the company.

CapBob.

From nases at verizon.net  Sun Dec 23 08:19:16 2007
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 10:19:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] remote clutch bleed lines
Message-ID: <001301c84577$2f311630$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com>

Anyone have any pics of their remote clutch bleed line setups?  Could you
post them or send them to me.  Thanks.
 

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Dec 23 13:21:27 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 15:21:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 67 Progress
Message-ID: <476EC347.1070804@comcast.net>

Major bodywork under control.
Block sanding to see what needs attention as seen on the enlarged shot 
of the first picture, the guide coat shows it all.

http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/bodywork101.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/bodywork102.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/bodywork103.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/1275a.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/1275b.jpg
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Sun Dec 23 13:33:12 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 14:33:12 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] 67 Progress
In-Reply-To: <476EC347.1070804@comcast.net>
References: <476EC347.1070804@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <007801c845a3$0b7916d0$226b4470$@com>

That car is cryin' for a set of helper springs held in with 2" x 4"s and
wood screws.... I happen to know where you could pick up a set...



-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Frank Clarici
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 2:21 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] 67 Progress

Major bodywork under control.
Block sanding to see what needs attention as seen on the enlarged shot 
of the first picture, the guide coat shows it all.

http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/bodywork101.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/bodywork102.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/bodywork103.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/1275a.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/1275b.jpg
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From kgrowler at aol.com  Sun Dec 23 15:46:52 2007
From: kgrowler at aol.com (kgrowler at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 17:46:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] MG Song
Message-ID: <8CA13CCD8B92F62-2EA4-82E0@webmail-mf17.sysops.aol.com>

A post I sent yesterday on my Road Songs list hasn't shown up in the Digest.
Perhaps too long. If it actually went through to the live list and the
following is duplicated, I apologize.




Over the past few years Bob Zimmerman, former North American Midget Registrar,
has kindly given me copies of his CDs of his original music that he makes up
for family and friends. 'Roadster Therapy' is a great road song about his MG
from one a couple years ago. Bob has kindly posted MP3s of 'Roadster Therapy'
and some of his other car-related songs. B They can be found at
B http://www.garageband.com/artist/Zimmerman




Happy Holidays,




Kim Tonry

Downers Grove, Illinois

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From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 23 17:16:49 2007
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 16:16:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] MG Song
In-Reply-To: <8CA13CCD8B92F62-2EA4-82E0@webmail-mf17.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <414310.15967.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

> Bob Zimmerman
> has kindly given me copies of his CDs 

Is Dylan using his real name again?

It's not a Spridget tune, but I was listening to
Warren Zevon's Studebaker song (sung by his son) in
the garage earlier. Could easily be a Spridget
soundtrack song.


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From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Dec 23 20:38:04 2007
From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 21:38:04 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Last few days to vote and support
 the cause!!
References: <43840a7e0712222306o3be4fce5y3322896c0c6abc39@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <09d201c845de$64805f50$6401a8c0@actualshop>

<<Text: 1960 Austin Healey Frogeye Sprite from the BusterCluster

Your name...

Vote early and often>>

14 times TODAY, OK Jim????

<G>

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Dec 23 21:40:19 2007
From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 22:40:19 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Xmas Card
References: <43840a7e0712222306o3be4fce5y3322896c0c6abc39@mail.gmail.com>
	<025f01c84598$83c96aa0$4fa40644@internetpc>
	<001301c8459e$4ba40990$c7a1bf46@personal>
Message-ID: <0cd301c845e7$1724f8c0$6401a8c0@actualshop>

Folks:

Cindy & I received a card from a couple of Big Healey friends of ours (close
to 30 years) that I    KNOW     you will want to see.  It is the absolute
PERFECT LBC card!!!!!!!

I have nor will have any financial interest.  Am just sharing!!!

Have a very Merry Christmas!!!!!

Ed & Cindy Kaler

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Dec 23 21:55:44 2007
From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 22:55:44 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Xmas Card
References: <43840a7e0712222306o3be4fce5y3322896c0c6abc39@mail.gmail.com>
	<025f01c84598$83c96aa0$4fa40644@internetpc>
	<001301c8459e$4ba40990$c7a1bf46@personal>
	<0cd301c845e7$1724f8c0$6401a8c0@actualshop>
Message-ID: <0dc601c845e9$3e4d29c0$6401a8c0@actualshop>

Ooops!!

In "Various Articles"!!!

www.justbrits.com (but you "knew" that part, right<G>).

From herby at herbytoys.com  Sun Dec 23 22:19:05 2007
From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 21:19:05 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Xmas Card
In-Reply-To: <0cd301c845e7$1724f8c0$6401a8c0@actualshop>
Message-ID: <000b01c845ec$811bf2b0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ>

Awesome card Ed!! Thank you for sharing with us.

Merry Christmas to you and Cindy and to all the Spridgeteers out there!!

Herby
63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting)
62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver)
00 Dakota R/T (the new toy)
herby at herbytoys.com
www.herbytoys.com

Folks:

Cindy & I received a card from a couple of Big Healey friends of ours (close
to 30 years) that I    KNOW     you will want to see.  It is the absolute
PERFECT LBC card!!!!!!!

I have nor will have any financial interest.  Am just sharing!!!

Have a very Merry Christmas!!!!!

Ed & Cindy Kaler
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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Sun Dec 23 22:50:44 2007
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 23:50:44 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!
Message-ID: <476F48B4.5060603@wi.net>

Hope the entire Spridget group has a healthy and happy holiday season 
and for those to whom it applies: MERRY CHRISTMAS!!
Dave
59 :{)
59 MGA 1500
05 MCS

From herby at herbytoys.com  Mon Dec 24 00:16:15 2007
From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 23:16:15 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Tractor Supply
Message-ID: <001101c845fc$e0f225a0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ>

Okay not holiday related and not really LBC (although shop related) but
definitely cool. On our way back from my MILs place in the NorCal mountains
for an early Xmas (no snow, bummer) we stopped off at the new Tractor Supply
store in Oakdale. It was quite cool. Everyone on the list(s) who talks about
their local TSC store is so right, they have a lot of great stuff! I didnt
buy anything but not for trying. If I could have fit the IR compressor they
had on sale for $500 in the Camry it would be in my garage right now :-)



Happy holidays everyone!!



Herby
63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting)
62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver)
00 Dakota R/T (the new toy)
herby at herbytoys.com

www.herbytoys.com




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From Daniel1312 at aol.com  Mon Dec 24 04:12:35 2007
From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 06:12:35 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Williams & Pritchard Sebring II
Message-ID: <ce1.1d15982f.34a0ee23@aol.com>

Hi list,
 
I've just learned about another fibreglass front that I think was discussed  
on the list some time ago.  Apparently Williams & Pritchard produced  
something called a Sebring II which looks like the Ashley front only with a  
rectangular grill aperture.
 
Apologies if everyone knew this already - as far as I know it's not  
documented in any book.
 
The link should go to the thread on the MG Cars bulletin Board
 
Regards
 
Daniel1312
 

 
_http://www2.mgcars.org.uk/cgi-bin/gen5?runprog=mgbbs&mode=thread&access=20979
893601086&subject=97&source=T&thread=2007122014150810747_ 
(http://www2.mgcars.org.uk/cgi-bin/gen5?runprog=mgbbs&mode=thread&access=20979893601086&subject=97
&source=T&thread=2007122014150810747) 

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Mon Dec 24 05:43:55 2007
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 12:43:55 -0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Williams & Pritchard Sebring II
In-Reply-To: <ce1.1d15982f.34a0ee23@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000201c8462a$a5a7fdc0$0201a8c0@Laptop>

Or for those that struggle with unwieldly long
URLs !

http://tinyurl.com/2s76vj

Guy

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@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Daniel1312 at aol.com
Sent: 24 December 2007 11:13
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Williams & Pritchard Sebring
II


Hi list,

I've just learned about another fibreglass front
that I think was discussed
on the list some time ago.  Apparently Williams &
Pritchard produced
something called a Sebring II which looks like the
Ashley front only with a
rectangular grill aperture.

Apologies if everyone knew this already - as far
as I know it's not
documented in any book.

The link should go to the thread on the MG Cars
bulletin Board

Regards

Daniel1312



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From wsthompson at thicko.com  Mon Dec 24 05:48:33 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 06:48:33 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Williams & Pritchard Sebring II
In-Reply-To: <ce1.1d15982f.34a0ee23@aol.com>
References: <ce1.1d15982f.34a0ee23@aol.com>
Message-ID: <00df01c8462b$4e1f6ec0$ea5e4c40$@com>

Daniel,

 

Yes, the nose pictured here
http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/toomanyspridgets/a2 is the same as on
Redrum, pictured here http://www.thicko.com/RedrumPart2.htm on my Thicko
site.

 

It was produced by Williams & Pritchard. I never had heard of the Sebring II
name. I've always thought it looked similar to the nose the Works used on
some of the later Targa Florio cars. If you come up with any of the original
literature or advertisements, I'd love to see it.

 

I've never seen another one in person. I know there's one pictured in
"Mighty Midgets and Special Sprites".

 

I have talked to Spridgetech about pulling a mold. maybe we'll make some up.

 

WST

 

From: Daniel1312 at aol.com [mailto:Daniel1312 at aol.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 5:13 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Cc: wsthompson at thicko.com
Subject: Williams & Pritchard Sebring II

 

Hi list,

 

I've just learned about another fibreglass front that I think was discussed
on the list some time ago.  Apparently Williams & Pritchard produced
something called a Sebring II which looks like the Ashley front only with a
rectangular grill aperture.

 

Apologies if everyone knew this already - as far as I know it's not
documented in any book.

 

The link should go to the thread on the MG Cars bulletin Board

 

Regards

 

Daniel1312

 

 

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79893601086&subject=97&source=T&thread=2007122014150810747>
&mode=thread&access=20979893601086&subject=97&source=T&thread=20071220141508
10747

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Mon Dec 24 05:57:36 2007
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 07:57:36 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Williams & Pritchard Sebring II
Message-ID: <29032019.1198501056193.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

You guys got me on this one.  I thought that W&P only worked in aluminium.  I didn't know that they worked also in fiberglas.  

Is this true?

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson at thicko.com>
>Sent: Dec 24, 2007 7:48 AM
>To: Daniel1312 at aol.com, spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Williams & Pritchard Sebring II
>
>Daniel,
>
> 
>
>Yes, the nose pictured here
>http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/toomanyspridgets/a2 is the same as on
>Redrum, pictured here http://www.thicko.com/RedrumPart2.htm on my Thicko
>site.
>
> 
>
>It was produced by Williams & Pritchard. I never had heard of the Sebring II
>name. I've always thought it looked similar to the nose the Works used on
>some of the later Targa Florio cars. If you come up with any of the original
>literature or advertisements, I'd love to see it.
>
> 
>
>I've never seen another one in person. I know there's one pictured in
>"Mighty Midgets and Special Sprites".
>
> 
>
>I have talked to Spridgetech about pulling a mold. maybe we'll make some up.
>
> 
>
>WST
>
> 
>
>From: Daniel1312 at aol.com [mailto:Daniel1312 at aol.com] 
>Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 5:13 AM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Cc: wsthompson at thicko.com
>Subject: Williams & Pritchard Sebring II
>
> 
>
>Hi list,
>
> 
>
>I've just learned about another fibreglass front that I think was discussed
>on the list some time ago.  Apparently Williams & Pritchard produced
>something called a Sebring II which looks like the Ashley front only with a
>rectangular grill aperture.
>
> 
>
>Apologies if everyone knew this already - as far as I know it's not
>documented in any book.
>
> 
>
>The link should go to the thread on the MG Cars bulletin Board
>
> 
>
>Regards
>
> 
>
>Daniel1312
>
> 
>
> 
>


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From wsthompson at thicko.com  Mon Dec 24 06:01:39 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 07:01:39 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Williams & Pritchard Sebring II
In-Reply-To: <29032019.1198501056193.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <29032019.1198501056193.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <00ea01c8462d$21d52ab0$657f8010$@com>

Yes, they produced items in both materials, usually in alloy first.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike/Donna Carpenter [mailto:mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com]
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 6:58 AM
To: Wm. Severin Thompson; Daniel1312 at aol.com; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Williams & Pritchard Sebring II

You guys got me on this one.  I thought that W&P only worked in aluminium.  I
didn't know that they worked also in fiberglas.

Is this true?

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson at thicko.com>
>Sent: Dec 24, 2007 7:48 AM
>To: Daniel1312 at aol.com, spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Williams & Pritchard Sebring II
>
>Daniel,
>
>
>
>Yes, the nose pictured here
>http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/toomanyspridgets/a2 is the same as on
>Redrum, pictured here http://www.thicko.com/RedrumPart2.htm on my Thicko
>site.
>
>
>
>It was produced by Williams & Pritchard. I never had heard of the Sebring II
>name. I've always thought it looked similar to the nose the Works used on
>some of the later Targa Florio cars. If you come up with any of the original
>literature or advertisements, I'd love to see it.
>
>
>
>I've never seen another one in person. I know there's one pictured in
>"Mighty Midgets and Special Sprites".
>
>
>
>I have talked to Spridgetech about pulling a mold. maybe we'll make some up.
>
>
>
>WST
>
>
>
>From: Daniel1312 at aol.com [mailto:Daniel1312 at aol.com]
>Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 5:13 AM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Cc: wsthompson at thicko.com
>Subject: Williams & Pritchard Sebring II
>
>
>
>Hi list,
>
>
>
>I've just learned about another fibreglass front that I think was discussed
>on the list some time ago.  Apparently Williams & Pritchard produced
>something called a Sebring II which looks like the Ashley front only with a
>rectangular grill aperture.
>
>
>
>Apologies if everyone knew this already - as far as I know it's not
>documented in any book.
>
>
>
>The link should go to the thread on the MG Cars bulletin Board
>
>
>
>Regards
>
>
>
>Daniel1312
>
>
>
>
>


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From Daniel1312 at aol.com  Mon Dec 24 08:11:53 2007
From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 10:11:53 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Williams & Pritchard Sebring II
Message-ID: <c89.1e780ab2.34a12639@aol.com>

One of the links on the MG Cars BBS is of the original W&P  literature.  So,
that's another Spridgetly mystery solved Holmes.

Daniel1312


In a message dated 24/12/2007 12:49:07 GMT Standard Time,
wsthompson at thicko.c
om writes:

It  was produced by Williams  & Pritchardb& I never had heard of the Sebring
II name. Ibve always thought  it looked similar to the nose the Works used
on
some of the later Targa Florio  cars. If you come up with any of the original
literature or advertisements,  Ibd love to see it.

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Mon Dec 24 08:15:50 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 09:15:50 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Williams & Pritchard Sebring II
In-Reply-To: <c89.1e780ab2.34a12639@aol.com>
References: <c89.1e780ab2.34a12639@aol.com>
Message-ID: <012201c8463f$e089a460$a19ced20$@com>

Yes, thatbs cool. Butb& another mystery looms.



Look at the adb&. Did W&P make that fastback hardtop? Ibd have to assume
so. It is nearly identical to the Ashley hardtop that I have (which has an
Ashley badge on it).



Also, I have a couple other bonnets and some Bugeye fastback hardtops we need
to definitively identify.



From: Daniel1312 at aol.com [mailto:Daniel1312 at aol.com]
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 9:12 AM
To: wsthompson at thicko.com; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Williams & Pritchard Sebring II



One of the links on the MG Cars BBS is of the original W&P literature.  So,
that's another Spridgetly mystery solved Holmes.



Daniel1312





In a message dated 24/12/2007 12:49:07 GMT Standard Time,
wsthompson at thicko.com writes:

It was produced by Williams & Pritchardb& I never had heard of the Sebring II
name. Ibve always thought it looked similar to the nose the Works used on
some of the later Targa Florio cars. If you come up with any of the original
literature or advertisements, Ibd love to see it.

From pythias at pacifier.com  Mon Dec 24 08:59:45 2007
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 07:59:45 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Air Hogs
Message-ID: <335894309.20071224075945@pacifier.com>

Hello ,


      Every one seems to say air hogs are the best RC .. here's an Air
      Hog Flying Saucer .. $10.00... today only!..

  http://www.1saleaday.com/

  Merry
  Christmas.  ....
-- 
Best regards,
Bill                             mailto:pythias at pacifier.com

 '66 Sprite "the red thing" (HAN8L 49403)

 Nebraska: At least the cows are sane.

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Dec 24 10:21:45 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 12:21:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Williams & Pritchard Sebring II
In-Reply-To: <29032019.1198501056193.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <29032019.1198501056193.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <476FEAA9.4040109@comcast.net>

Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote:

> I thought that W&P only worked in aluminium. 
> I didn't know that they worked also in fiberglas.  

My Speedwell nose is an original W&P fiberglass piece.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 24 11:33:15 2007
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 10:33:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Tractor Supply & Merry Christmas
In-Reply-To: <001101c845fc$e0f225a0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ>
Message-ID: <388816.67526.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Gotta say I miss having a TSC around.  Haven't found one here on Long Island - maybe out East in Suffolk county somewhere.  It's a great place for anything from snow boots to wild bird feed to pocket knives.  Also - if you ride a pre belt-driven Harley, the chains they sell to drive various tractor bits are the same thing that drives your scoot for about half the price you pay when it says HD on the box!
   
  Merry Christmas everybody.  Glad I found this group this year - You've been very informative and entertaining.  My son and I are flying out for a week visiting family and friends back South where convertibles and bikes are viable year-round modes of transport.  I'll be back next year for more.  (yes, I know Frank - you drive top down all year.  I do too, it's just that down there you can do it without quite so much bundling up before hand).
   
   - David

Herby <herby at herbytoys.com> wrote:
  Okay not holiday related and not really LBC (although shop related) but
definitely cool. On our way back from my MILs place in the NorCal mountains
for an early Xmas (no snow, bummer) we stopped off at the new Tractor Supply
store in Oakdale. It was quite cool. Everyone on the list(s) who talks about
their local TSC store is so right, they have a lot of great stuff! I didnt
buy anything but not for trying. If I could have fit the IR compressor they
had on sale for $500 in the Camry it would be in my garage right now :-)



Happy holidays everyone!!



Herby
63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting)
62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver)
00 Dakota R/T (the new toy)
herby at herbytoys.com

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From biffjones at verizon.net  Mon Dec 24 21:38:15 2007
From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 23:38:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 1966 Sprite For Sale
Message-ID: <004d01c846af$f7525b90$2f01a8c0@dell1>

A friend has decided to sell his car and asked that I forward it to the
lists.
Below is his description of the car.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------
1966 Mark III. It's not original, but very sound and no major rust.  It has
the
correct 1098 engine with the Weber carb and a new Pertonix ignition  and coil.
I also believe, but have no documentation, that there is some kind of street
cam
in the motor.  I will also include whatever extra parts that I have.
Asking $5,200.00 for the car and spares.
Contact Herman Farrer at herman at capitalhealeys.org
Pictures of the car can be seen at
http://public.fotki.com/BiffJ/1966-sprite-mkiii/

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 25 14:49:12 2007
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 13:49:12 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] This day...
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10712251349p4bb034dvadfad83251973ab4@mail.gmail.com>

Merry Christmas to you and yours.

May the Good Lord bless you.

Herb

From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Tue Dec 25 15:13:47 2007
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux)
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 14:13:47 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Master cylinder front cover
Message-ID: <88B2D2FA-E27E-4568-B688-F27FC25E7F42@gerardsgarage.com>

I am missing one of these for the early tandem master cylinders used  
in the Bugeyes. Anyone have a spare?

If you want to contact me off list:

pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com

Thanks

Gerard

From mikey at b2systems.com  Tue Dec 25 17:59:11 2007
From: mikey at b2systems.com (Mike Rambour)
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 16:59:11 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] helo war
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0712051227v7e3e37deh67dbb5fff57c6147@mail.gmail.co
  m>
References: <006a01c83778$8181cdb0$84856910$@com>
	<43840a7e0712051227v7e3e37deh67dbb5fff57c6147@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071225165713.0811b878@b2systems.com>

  Remember this thread ? Well the answer Jim is YES I can spell 
second childhood (assuming I ever left my first).

   Sent this message to Santa when it got sent to the list and I have 
been shooting down Santa and my Daughter all day with them, what a blast.

         mike

At 12:27 PM 12/5/2007, Jim Johnson wrote:
>Can you guys spell; "second childhood"?
>
>Cheers!!
>Jim
>
>On 12/5/07, Wm. Severin Thompson <wsthompson at thicko.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Larry. we need a pair of these.
> >
> >
> >
> > <
> > http://www.amazon.com/Air-Hogs-Havoc-Laser-Battle/dp/B000Y15UL4/ref=sr_1_4
> > ?
> > ie=UTF8&s=toys-and-games&qid=1196884334&sr=1-4>
>_______________________________________________
>mikey at b2systems.com
>
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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Tue Dec 25 18:42:53 2007
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 19:42:53 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] WTB Bugeye bonnet
Message-ID: <D1DD548F700F4CA2AA05940EB3B7B1DB@Home>

I am a newbie hoping to Bugize a '72-'74 Midget.  I need weather protection in NY.  Does anyone know of a Bugeye bonnet in restorable condition for sale?  

From thefirebuilds at gmail.com  Tue Dec 25 19:51:56 2007
From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.)
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 20:51:56 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] RC helicopter
In-Reply-To: <652563598.20071205220300@pacifier.com>
References: <652563598.20071205220300@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <8a336b9d0712251851u19d5e327leb9a11d169b1b48@mail.gmail.com>

copter update:

i bought 3 for my friends during xmas.  One was delivered christmas eve.
One delivered today, one will be delivered tomorrow.

The christmas eve one lost its life earlier today when the counterweights
and tail rotor decided to no longer be attached to the main device.  I will
let you know how the rest fair.  (fare?)




On Dec 6, 2007 12:03 AM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:

> Hello Spridgets,
>
>  for those who are quick enough.. $10.00 +$5.00 shipping Thursday
>  only at
>
>  http://www.woot.com.
>
>  or until they're gone.  shipping is per order, not per helicopter!!
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Bill                             mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
>  '66 Sprite "the red thing" (HAN8L 49403)
>
>  "I don't want you delivering my mail any more - it never arrives on
> time," Tom expostulated.
> _______________________________________________
>



-- 
"Well you are the one, the one that lies close to me
Whisper's "Hello, I've missed you quite terribly"
I fell in love, in love with you suddenly
Now there's no place else I could be but here in your arms" - Hellogoodbye

From p.herder at cox.net  Tue Dec 25 20:13:09 2007
From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder)
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 21:13:09 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] RC helicopter
In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0712251851u19d5e327leb9a11d169b1b48@mail.gmail.com>
References: <652563598.20071205220300@pacifier.com>
	<8a336b9d0712251851u19d5e327leb9a11d169b1b48@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <598466B1F1C74F0897C0EDA9B9D822B4@PaulVU>

I got two of the Air Hogs Havoc Helis and have been entertaining the cats
with one of them.  I got them from Target via Amazon.com where they were
shipped for free and arrived 2 days after I ordered them!

I also got one of the knock-off ones from WOOT.  Never again will I buy from
WOOT.  They shipped it via DHL from Dallas to Kansas City where it was
mailed to me in Sedgwick, KS.  It took over a week to arrive!  If they had
mailed it from Dallas, it probably would have taken 2-3 days.  I haven't
tried to fly it yet but I do see that it is built different (different
flybar.)

BTW, the cats actually love it!  They watch it VERY carefully and try to
knock it out of the air if I fly it too close to any one of them.  Even the
21 year old cat came out to see what was happening.  One of the cats is the
stereotype scaredie cat and when I flew the heli down near him, he
immediately attacked and knocked it out of the air.  The heli does survive a
lot (running into things and having it knocked out of the air!) and I have
not damaged it beyond repair (yet!)

I have more flight time with this heli than I ever did with my gas powered
R/C helicopters!  ;^)

Paul

-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] RC helicopter

copter update:

i bought 3 for my friends during xmas.  One was delivered christmas eve.
One delivered today, one will be delivered tomorrow.

The christmas eve one lost its life earlier today when the counterweights
and tail rotor decided to no longer be attached to the main device.  I will
let you know how the rest fair.  (fare?)




On Dec 6, 2007 12:03 AM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:

> Hello Spridgets,
>
>  for those who are quick enough.. $10.00 +$5.00 shipping Thursday
>  only at
>
>  http://www.woot.com.
>
>  or until they're gone.  shipping is per order, not per helicopter!!
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Bill                             mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
>  '66 Sprite "the red thing" (HAN8L 49403)
>
>  "I don't want you delivering my mail any more - it never arrives on
> time," Tom expostulated.
> _______________________________________________
>



-- 
"Well you are the one, the one that lies close to me
Whisper's "Hello, I've missed you quite terribly"
I fell in love, in love with you suddenly
Now there's no place else I could be but here in your arms" - Hellogoodbye

From Daniel1312 at aol.com  Wed Dec 26 03:46:12 2007
From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 05:46:12 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Williams & Pritchard Sebring II
Message-ID: <ce5.244e3b94.34a38af4@aol.com>

I'm no expert on these things but if you post some images on the MG Cars  BBS
you might get to identify a couple more things.

Regards

Daniel


In a message dated 24/12/2007 15:16:10 GMT Standard Time,
wsthompson at thicko.com writes:

Yes,  thatbs cool. Butb& another mystery looms.
Look  at the adb&. Did W&P make that fastback hardtop? Ibd have to assume
so.
It  is nearly identical to the Ashley hardtop that I have (which has an
Ashley  badge on it).
Also,  I have a couple other bonnets and some Bugeye fastback hardtops we
need to  definitively identify.

From peter at nosimport.com  Wed Dec 26 10:34:29 2007
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 11:34:29 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget content?
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071226113337.03898b78@mailbag.com>

... and where do you place the accent?


Peter C.

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Dec 26 11:43:49 2007
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 12:43:49 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Christmas Cheer
In-Reply-To: <441250190712202227q6018156exb2cf47281fe52825@mail.gmail.com>
References: <476B27CB.40609@comcast.net>
	<441250190712202227q6018156exb2cf47281fe52825@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B4141583-6989-4D1E-A8D0-D7C99B43D4CB@comcast.net>

Sure she was hot but in two years when she turns 16 she'll be all used  
up..

Lester

.. think Brittney Speirs



On Dec 21, 2007, at 12:27 AM, Bill Gilroy wrote:

> Ok, was it only me or was that young lady with the baby hot?

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Dec 26 21:29:49 2007
From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 22:29:49 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Glen Byrns
Message-ID: <02f901c84841$1e7223d0$6401a8c0@actualshop>

Merry Christmas, Glen!!!!!

http://www.justbrits.com/Misc/GB_Gift.html

<V V V B G>

E

From pythias at pacifier.com  Wed Dec 26 22:24:49 2007
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 21:24:49 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] NW Caravan?  to 50th in Mo?
Message-ID: <1592782750.20071226212449@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

      It's less than 6 months now until the 50 year celebration in Mo.

      Time to start thinking about a a caravan from the Pacific
      Northwest....   Paul A.?  pdxpete?  Seattle area lister?..
      Salem? WFO herb?.. its not to early to start getting this
      organized and committed... miles per day? . route?... which
      spares? .. .

-- 
Best regards,
Bill                             mailto:pythias at pacifier.com

 '66 Sprite "the red thing" (HAN8L 49403)

 My drinking team has a bowling problem.

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Thu Dec 27 07:48:13 2007
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:48:13 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Glen Byrns
In-Reply-To: <02f901c84841$1e7223d0$6401a8c0@actualshop>
References: <02f901c84841$1e7223d0$6401a8c0@actualshop>
Message-ID: <e98d88090712270648o4fb94b12i5278991eb9f226ed@mail.gmail.com>

Photoshop a can of Miller Lite into the photo, and it could be a young Ed,
working on a project.....

On Dec 26, 2007 10:29 PM, <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:

> Merry Christmas, Glen!!!!!
>
> http://www.justbrits.com/Misc/GB_Gift.html
>
> <V V V B G>
>
> E
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Dec 27 09:40:21 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 10:40:21 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] NW Caravan? to 50th in Mo?
In-Reply-To: <1592782750.20071226212449@pacifier.com>
References: <1592782750.20071226212449@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712270840v741d4102ua0cc85eae91ba54f@mail.gmail.com>

Bill and all,

There has been some discussion of putting a few convoys together from other
regions as well. Offers for special treatment along the way are in place for
Blytheville, AR and Eureka Springs, AR. The Mayor of Blytheville himself
will be attending the event and has offered to host people passing through
Blytheville from the southeast. Eureka Springs is only a few hours south of
the event site and is actually the northern terminus of the famed "Pig
Trail" on Arkansas Highway 23  - one of America's top ten roads as rated by
Car & Driver.

There was some talk about a group coming from the far Southeast and also
from the Northeast and from Southern California. We probably need to set up
some sort of clearing house for this as has been suggested though I'm not
sure of the best way to do it. Suggestions much appreciated!
I'm thinking of trying to piece together some sort of frappr map which would
identify the stops along each convoy route to Lake of the Ozarks. Whadda ya
think?

"50 Years of Spridgets" is rapidly shaping up to be a wonderful rally and we
are getting excited about all the fun to come!
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

On Dec 26, 2007 11:24 PM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:

> Hello Spridgets,
>
>      It's less than 6 months now until the 50 year celebration in Mo.
>
>      Time to start thinking about a a caravan from the Pacific
>      Northwest....   Paul A.?  pdxpete?  Seattle area lister?..
>      Salem? WFO herb?.. its not to early to start getting this
>      organized and committed... miles per day? . route?... which
>      spares? .. .
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Bill                             mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
>  '66 Sprite "the red thing" (HAN8L 49403)
>
>  My drinking team has a bowling problem.

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Thu Dec 27 09:47:58 2007
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:47:58 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] NW Caravan?  to 50th in Mo?
References: <1592782750.20071226212449@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <000601c848a8$3d0ee0f0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

Hi Bill et al,

I plan on leaving Davis about five days ahead of the event and driving more 
or less on secondary routes near 80.  I just got a GPS for Christmas and 
will be stopping at every "World's Biggest Ball of Twine" sort of thing I 
can find.  Totally inspired by "Just Another Roadside Attraction".
Actually, its just safer than tailgating some diesel belching semi on the 
interstate for day after day.

With cell phones ,GPS and a wireless connection at every Starbucks, we can 
monitor each other's progress through the list and form up in caravans as we 
go.  I'll be bringing the laptop to communicate with the Megasquirt and 
it'll be my connection to the list while on route.

I'm wide open to suggestions of ridiculous roadside attractions and scenic 
minor routes between northern CA and Missouri.

Glen Byrns

> Hello Spridgets,
>
>      It's less than 6 months now until the 50 year celebration in Mo.
>
>      Time to start thinking about a a caravan from the Pacific
>      Northwest....   Paul A.?  pdxpete?  Seattle area lister?..
>      Salem? WFO herb?.. its not to early to start getting this
>      organized and committed... miles per day? . route?... which
>      spares? .. .
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Bill                             mailto:pythias at pacifier.com

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Thu Dec 27 09:54:14 2007
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:54:14 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Glen Byrns
References: <02f901c84841$1e7223d0$6401a8c0@actualshop>
Message-ID: <000d01c848a9$1df46d10$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

That is one COOL kit!  Only problem is that when you build a car EFI 
computer with those parts, the only car it fits in is a Hummer.
I was too embarassed to ask for that kit for Xmas but I wanted it!

My daugheter told me this Christmas that the FSL(future son-in-law) doesn't 
like toys.  So I'm thinking "Oh, great, my daughter hooked up with a girl!" 
I ignored her and got him one of those little infra-red micro helicopters 
and he spent Christmas day flying it all around the living room.   The 
shocked look on my daughter's face when she realized that "They're all just 
alike!!!!!" was priceless.

Merry Christmas to all,

Glen


> Merry Christmas, Glen!!!!!
>
> http://www.justbrits.com/Misc/GB_Gift.html
>
> <V V V B G>
>
> E

From hal at katemuir.com  Thu Dec 27 10:05:27 2007
From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 09:05:27 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Glen Byrns
In-Reply-To: <000d01c848a9$1df46d10$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFKECKFJAA.hal@katemuir.com>

Glen,
I guess it's better that she find out BEFORE they get married!
Hal

-----Original Message-----
 The shocked look on my daughter's face when she realized that "They're all
just
alike!!!!!" was priceless.

Merry Christmas to all,

Glen

From pythias at pacifier.com  Thu Dec 27 10:44:42 2007
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 09:44:42 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] NW Caravan?  to 50th in Mo?
In-Reply-To: <000601c848a8$3d0ee0f0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
References: <1592782750.20071226212449@pacifier.com>
	<000601c848a8$3d0ee0f0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <431776646.20071227094442@pacifier.com>

Hello Glen,

       the routing to make some sort of link between those traveling
       from Southern California and those from the Pacific Northwest
       is extremely LONG. as in an extra 1000 miles for either group..
       one route comes in along I-40 through Texas and the northern
       route is through Wyoming and Nebraska. It would add at least 2
       days to the trip!....ONE WAY! .. that's figuring from the NW
       its a tad over 2000 miles (Portland OR) 500 miles per day, 4
       days. .. now 500 miles averaging 50 miles per hour, (food, gas,
       rest stops) is still 10 hours a day of driving time.. ..
       hitting the road at 8:00 off the road into a motel room by 6:00
       pm.... those are long days...... not that someone can't do a 16
       hour day, but its just not fun to travel like that... at least
       for me.... naturally, i'm willing to go along with whatever a
       "caravan" collectively decides is the best
       .---routing---timing---rest stops---food----etc.... but the
       logistics SHOULD be worked out...




-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
   "66 Sprite
     I took an IQ test and the results were negative.

From pdx.pete at verizon.net  Thu Dec 27 11:00:44 2007
From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (pdxpete)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 10:00:44 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] NW Caravan?  to 50th in Mo?
References: <1592782750.20071226212449@pacifier.com>
	<000601c848a8$3d0ee0f0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <003401c848b2$674ce3d0$d8026f47@DBKF4T81>

Prairie Dog Town in Oakley, Kansas is conveniently located just off I-70. At 
one point in time they claimed to have a live 6-legged steer, but that's 
been a while ago.
http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/KSOAKprairie.html

Cawker City, Kansas, not-so-conveniently located on US 24, is home to what 
the locals claim to be the World's Largest Ball of Twine. (We could get ito 
a discussion about how those other, technically larger ones are comprised of 
synthetic twine and the one in Cawker City is made up of the real deal.)
http://skyways.lib.ks.us/towns/Cawker/

If you want backroads, being really out of the way, want to take a detour 
off I-70 and have a hankering for fried chicken, there's always the 
Brookville Cafe on State Route 140 west of Salina. Here's a write-up from 
the Chicago Tribune:
http://www.brookvillehotel.com/art1.htm

And then there's always terminal boredom (no website available, or needed).

More to follow ........ maybe. 

From refisk at chartermi.net  Thu Dec 27 11:26:29 2007
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 13:26:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NW Caravan?  to 50th in Mo?
References: <1592782750.20071226212449@pacifier.com><000601c848a8$3d0ee0f0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
	<431776646.20071227094442@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <017401c848b5$ffb2af80$6501a8c0@refisk>

No sense of adventure huh Bill?  :-)

For me half the fun of a trip like this is taking off without so much as a 
map.  I've always gotten to where I wanted to go and had some great 
adventures along the way.  But your mileage may vary........  :-)

Rick


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NW Caravan? to 50th in Mo?


> Hello Glen,
>
>       the routing ............(snip)......................
>       ............................................but the
>       logistics SHOULD be worked out...
>
> Best regards,
> Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>   "66 Sprite
>     I took an IQ test and the results were negative.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Dec 27 11:36:05 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 13:36:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget content?
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20071226113337.03898b78@mailbag.com>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20071226113337.03898b78@mailbag.com>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP11120C89D0D8912B989CA4B8540@CEZ.ICE>

The ax scent?  It's usually on the cutting edge or back from there.

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter C

... and where do you place the accent?


Peter C.

From pythias at pacifier.com  Thu Dec 27 12:08:25 2007
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 11:08:25 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] NW Caravan?  to 50th in Mo?
In-Reply-To: <017401c848b5$ffb2af80$6501a8c0@refisk>
References: <1592782750.20071226212449@pacifier.com><000601c848a8$3d0ee0f0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
	<431776646.20071227094442@pacifier.com>
	<017401c848b5$ffb2af80$6501a8c0@refisk>
Message-ID: <19234166.20071227110825@pacifier.com>

Hello Rick,

       the sense of adventure thing cannot be under-rated. BUT, i'm
       already figuring two weeks or so for the trip... time
       constraints become a factor.. tho most of the listers are OLD,
       not all of us are RETIRED!




-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
   "66 Sprite
     I didn't climb to the top of the food chain to become a vegetarian!

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Dec 27 12:33:21 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 13:33:21 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] NW Caravan? to 50th in Mo?
In-Reply-To: <19234166.20071227110825@pacifier.com>
References: <1592782750.20071226212449@pacifier.com>
	<000601c848a8$3d0ee0f0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
	<431776646.20071227094442@pacifier.com>
	<017401c848b5$ffb2af80$6501a8c0@refisk>
	<19234166.20071227110825@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712271133i5fb829e3q4c9ffeebe0967546@mail.gmail.com>

On Dec 27, 2007 1:08 PM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:

> Hello Rick,
>
>       the sense of adventure thing cannot be under-rated. BUT, i'm
>       already figuring two weeks or so for the trip... time
>       constraints become a factor.. tho most of the listers are OLD,
>       not all of us are RETIRED!


True, Bill...  But our passion for these little cars is proof positive that
most of us are RETARDED!    ;-)

Many years and several 100K miles of traveling via motorcycle have taken me
off the Interstates and through some pretty magical places. I'll try to
assemble a list or two of things that fall into Glen's category....   Don't
want you guys getting bored!!
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From paulbaker53 at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Dec 27 12:42:26 2007
From: paulbaker53 at yahoo.co.uk (Paul Baker)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:42:26 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Williams & Pritchard Sebring II
Message-ID: <991148.37245.qm@web27803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

Daniel,

I bought my sprite last year which was supposed to have an Ashley
front and hardtop.  After some research it turned out that the front was a W&P
Sebring 2 and the hardtop from Ashley.  I located the company (Fibresports)
that has the moulds which they bought from W&P many years ago.  I am having a
new lighterweight fibreglass front made and will be collecting it next week.
They also have the moulds for the Sebring and Monza fronts. 

A picture of the
current front on my Sprite can be seen on the www.Healeysport.org website at
http://www.healeysport.org/images/SHC%20Westmount%2007/HTML/paul.htm  The
picture was taken when hillclimbing on Jersey.

Hope this helps

Paul

65 Mk3
Sprite
66 BJ8
67 BJ8

 
----- Original Message ----
From: "Daniel1312 at aol.com"
<Daniel1312 at aol.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Monday, 24 December,
2007 11:12:35 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Williams & Pritchard Sebring II

Hi
list,

I've just learned about another fibreglass front that I think was
discussed  
on the list some time ago.  Apparently Williams & Pritchard
produced  
something called a Sebring II which looks like the Ashley front
only with a  
rectangular grill aperture.

Apologies if everyone knew this
already - as far as I know it's not  
documented in any book.

The link should
go to the thread on the MG Cars bulletin Board

Regards

Daniel1312
__________________________________________________________
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Thu Dec 27 12:51:31 2007
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 11:51:31 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] NW Caravan? to 50th in Mo?
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0712271133i5fb829e3q4c9ffeebe0967546@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1592782750.20071226212449@pacifier.com>
	<000601c848a8$3d0ee0f0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
	<431776646.20071227094442@pacifier.com>
	<017401c848b5$ffb2af80$6501a8c0@refisk>
	<19234166.20071227110825@pacifier.com>
	<43840a7e0712271133i5fb829e3q4c9ffeebe0967546@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <982650633.20071227115131@pacifier.com>

Hello Jim,

       like most sprite owners, i've been travelling the US since
       before the Interstate System was finished.. (is it finished
       YET)... most of us REMEMBER --Burman Shave signs,.. the thrill
       of approaching "Little America", only to be disappointed when
       finally arriving, but stopping anyway.. We remember Sinclair
       Gasoline, Stinker Stations, Smuckers Stops, .. etc, etc...

       some of those things still exist, and some are only  memories
       and pictures, .. all worth having seen and done and "been
       there"... .. and there is always something yet to be seen
       all across the country.. . .. .. ..BUT

       I'm looking forward MOST of all to seeing the PEOPLE of the
       list! everything else on the trip is Secondary to THAT... it
       would do me no good to see the country, but break down and not
       make it to "the bash"... .. so ... maybe on the way home, ..
       side trips.... maybe i'll be to burned out by then for that,
       maybe not.. and most of us know that its not the destination,
       but the Journey that's important.. ... elsewise why even bother
       with these cars at all?... .. .. looking forward to SEEING one
       and all...




-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
   "66 Sprite
     "It's hard work arresting that girl!" said Tom, laboring under a misapprehension.

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Thu Dec 27 13:41:21 2007
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:41:21 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] NW Caravan?  to 50th in Mo?
In-Reply-To: <000601c848a8$3d0ee0f0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <20071227204124.TEYC21064.hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>

Pretty much any Waffle House fits in that category :)

Maybe I'll get it together by then...

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Glen Byrns
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:48 AM
To: Bill L
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NW Caravan? to 50th in Mo?

I'm wide open to suggestions of ridiculous roadside attractions and scenic 
minor routes between northern CA and Missouri.

Glen Byrns

From shelden3 at pldi.net  Thu Dec 27 14:17:59 2007
From: shelden3 at pldi.net (Charlie Shelden)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:17:59 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] NW Caravan?  to 50th in Mo?
References: <20071227204124.TEYC21064.hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
Message-ID: <00bd01c848cd$f500e030$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx>

If coming through Oklahoma.  You can exit I-40 and take the old Route 66 
almost all the way into Mo.  Lots of back roads and it goes along I-44 
thorugh Tulsa into Joplin so plenty of places to stop and such.  Might be a 
good meeting point for listers in Texas meeting those from the W/SW to get 
there.

Charlie
OKC,OK 


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From Daniel1312 at aol.com  Thu Dec 27 16:34:42 2007
From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:34:42 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Wire spoked wheel - clamp length
Message-ID: <d37.1f1e43df.34a59092@aol.com>

Hi List,

I know I've asked this before in the past 5 years but still have a gap I'm
looking to fill.  I have the following lengths of the clamp used to secure
the
spare wheel:


Sprite/Midget  Rostyle             5.25b
MGB Rostyle                         6 3/8b
MGB wire wheel                    7b
But I don't have a length for the Sprite/Midget wire  wheel - anyone have one
handy they can measure for me?
Thanks
Daniel

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Dec 27 17:55:02 2007
From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:55:02 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Glen Byrns
References: <02f901c84841$1e7223d0$6401a8c0@actualshop>
	<e98d88090712270648o4fb94b12i5278991eb9f226ed@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <053201c848ec$47c90fe0$6401a8c0@actualshop>

<<Photoshop a can of Miller Lite into the photo, and it could be a young Ed,
working on a project.....>>

Coulda been except (back when they where GOOD) brew woulda been Schulta or
Carling Black Label!!!!

Anon

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Dec 27 18:17:59 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:17:59 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Glen Byrns
In-Reply-To: <053201c848ec$47c90fe0$6401a8c0@actualshop>
References: <02f901c84841$1e7223d0$6401a8c0@actualshop>
	<e98d88090712270648o4fb94b12i5278991eb9f226ed@mail.gmail.com>
	<053201c848ec$47c90fe0$6401a8c0@actualshop>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712271717u7e3a86b1lefabf8ff0e421cfc@mail.gmail.com>

Naw.  Couldn't have been a young Ed. You're talkin' pre-wheel
technology...   :-)
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

The Bradster sez:

> Photoshop a can of Miller Lite into the photo, and it could be a young Ed,
> working on a project.....

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Dec 27 18:38:48 2007
From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:38:48 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Glen Byrns
References: <02f901c84841$1e7223d0$6401a8c0@actualshop><e98d88090712270648o4fb94b12i5278991eb9f226ed@mail.gmail.com><053201c848ec$47c90fe0$6401a8c0@actualshop>
	<43840a7e0712271717u7e3a86b1lefabf8ff0e421cfc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <06ae01c848f2$64c2e980$6401a8c0@actualshop>

<<Couldn't have been a young Ed. You're talkin' pre-wheel
technology...>>

Youse gots to be talkin' 'bout yerself, Jim!!!

Yer the retired (retarded) one, NOT me!!!!!

LOL

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Dec 27 19:01:35 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:01:35 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Glen Byrns
In-Reply-To: <06ae01c848f2$64c2e980$6401a8c0@actualshop>
References: <02f901c84841$1e7223d0$6401a8c0@actualshop>
	<e98d88090712270648o4fb94b12i5278991eb9f226ed@mail.gmail.com>
	<053201c848ec$47c90fe0$6401a8c0@actualshop>
	<43840a7e0712271717u7e3a86b1lefabf8ff0e421cfc@mail.gmail.com>
	<06ae01c848f2$64c2e980$6401a8c0@actualshop>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712271801q6251b6d7rdbec0d075956824a@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah, but now we're talking pre-dirt technology!  LMAO!
Jim

On Dec 27, 2007 7:38 PM, <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:

> <<Couldn't have been a young Ed. You're talkin' pre-wheel
> technology...>>
>
> Youse gots to be talkin' 'bout yerself, Jim!!!
>
> Yer the retired (retarded) one, NOT me!!!!!
>
> LOL

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Dec 27 19:08:52 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:08:52 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] NW Caravan? to 50th in Mo?
In-Reply-To: <00bd01c848cd$f500e030$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx>
References: <20071227204124.TEYC21064.hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
	<00bd01c848cd$f500e030$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712271808t12c81518i9091c19637be1462@mail.gmail.com>

Charlie's right about east OK and the Mother Road...   In fact, one of the
day trips we have planned out of Lake of the Ozarks is Southeast through
Rolla and St. James MO where you can drive along a stretch of Route 66 and
there are some neat old original dinners and mom&pop businesses as well as a
few caves and some of Missouri's best wineries!  We'll have some info
available for everyone when they sign in at the event headquarters hotel...
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

On Dec 27, 2007 3:17 PM, Charlie Shelden <shelden3 at pldi.net> wrote:

> If coming through Oklahoma.  You can exit I-40 and take the old Route 66
> almost all the way into Mo.  Lots of back roads and it goes along I-44
> thorugh Tulsa into Joplin so plenty of places to stop and such.  Might be
> a
> good meeting point for listers in Texas meeting those from the W/SW to get
> there.
>
> Charlie
> OKC,OK

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Dec 27 21:59:34 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 23:59:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NW Caravan?  to 50th in Mo?
In-Reply-To: <017401c848b5$ffb2af80$6501a8c0@refisk>
References: <1592782750.20071226212449@pacifier.com><000601c848a8$3d0ee0f0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
	<431776646.20071227094442@pacifier.com>
	<017401c848b5$ffb2af80$6501a8c0@refisk>
Message-ID: <477482B6.7010001@comcast.net>

Rick Fisk wrote:

> For me half the fun of a trip like this is taking off without so much as a 
> map.

With a 2 day drive to get there, 4 days there, 2 days back, 8 days in a 
Sprite is enough. And the whole family is driving a Sprite or A40 so we 
are taking the fast and furious route. PA pike to I-70.
Me in my 59, my son and his wife in the 58, and my daughter and maybe 
boyfriend in either the 67 or her Austin A40, she hasn't decided what to 
drive yet, and of course the 67 is a bare primered mess right now.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net  Fri Dec 28 22:15:07 2007
From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 21:15:07 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] NW Caravan? to 50th in Mo?
References: <1592782750.20071226212449@pacifier.com><000601c848a8$3d0ee0f0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu><431776646.20071227094442@pacifier.com><017401c848b5$ffb2af80$6501a8c0@refisk><19234166.20071227110825@pacifier.com>
	<43840a7e0712271133i5fb829e3q4c9ffeebe0967546@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001d01c849d9$c84bc980$f675fea9@p0k7l8>

Hey Jim!

Don't forget the merry go rounds on your list of oddities!!

Pa

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NW Caravan? to 50th in Mo?


> On Dec 27, 2007 1:08 PM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello Rick,
> >
> >       the sense of adventure thing cannot be under-rated. BUT, i'm
> >       already figuring two weeks or so for the trip... time
> >       constraints become a factor.. tho most of the listers are OLD,
> >       not all of us are RETIRED!
>
>
> True, Bill...  But our passion for these little cars is proof positive
that
> most of us are RETARDED!    ;-)
>
> Many years and several 100K miles of traveling via motorcycle have taken
me
> off the Interstates and through some pretty magical places. I'll try to
> assemble a list or two of things that fall into Glen's category....
Don't
> want you guys getting bored!!
> -- 
> Cheers!!
> Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
> Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!

From refisk at chartermi.net  Thu Dec 27 22:19:03 2007
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 00:19:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NW Caravan?  to 50th in Mo?
References: <1592782750.20071226212449@pacifier.com><000601c848a8$3d0ee0f0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu><431776646.20071227094442@pacifier.com><017401c848b5$ffb2af80$6501a8c0@refisk>
	<19234166.20071227110825@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <01d601c84911$2922b030$6501a8c0@refisk>

I'm old physically, but still 13 most of the time mentally.  Just ask my 
wife.  :-)

Not retired though, unfortunately.  Time won't be a problem for me as I 
never seem to take all of my vacation time.  I still have 8 days to use up 
in 2007.   lol

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NW Caravan? to 50th in Mo?


> Hello Rick,
>
>       the sense of adventure thing cannot be under-rated. BUT, i'm
>       already figuring two weeks or so for the trip... time
>       constraints become a factor.. tho most of the listers are OLD,
>       not all of us are RETIRED!
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>   "66 Sprite
>     I didn't climb to the top of the food chain to become a vegetarian!

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Thu Dec 27 22:31:58 2007
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 05:31:58 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] WTB Bugeye bonnet
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV3F6066286A38BD3EBEA68C8550@phx.gbl>

Yep...mine. It's vented on top and the left hand side as well. It's got new fender beading so no rust there. Has the normal
minor rusted out metal in each lower corner but it's definitely so big deal and is
easily "restorable". I'll be replacing it with
a fibreglass bonnet in the early Spring. Along about April, maybe sooner if it gets
warmer sooner! :)

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Thu Dec 27 22:47:32 2007
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 21:47:32 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] NW Caravan? to 50th in Mo?
In-Reply-To: <477482B6.7010001@comcast.net>
References: <1592782750.20071226212449@pacifier.com>
	<000601c848a8$3d0ee0f0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
	<431776646.20071227094442@pacifier.com>
	<017401c848b5$ffb2af80$6501a8c0@refisk> <477482B6.7010001@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <441250190712272147l4037fc2ew24cb9bddf873df17@mail.gmail.com>

2 days from NJ.  It is a hair over 2,000 miles from Seattle.  That is one
long trip through a whole lot of nothing.  What this really means is I have
to get paint on my MG by the end of February so I can shake it down before I
head to MO.  But even @ 500 miles a day, that is about 10 hours of driving
each day, it will be 4 days.  Since the route will be something like:

Seattle, Spokane, Missoula, Butte (should be called Butt), Billings, Rapid
City, Sioux Falls, Kanas City.  They are some really small cities and a
whole lot of nothing in between.  Used to think Spokane was a big city until
I got there; think New Brunswick, NJ without J&J.    My feelings are bring
the sunblock and plan 2 to 2.5 weeks and plan to sweat your whatever off.

-g



On 12/27/07, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Rick Fisk wrote:
>
> > For me half the fun of a trip like this is taking off without so much as
> a
> > map.
>
> With a 2 day drive to get there, 4 days there, 2 days back, 8 days in a
> Sprite is enough. And the whole family is driving a Sprite or A40 so we
> are taking the fast and furious route. PA pike to I-70.
> Me in my 59, my son and his wife in the 58, and my daughter and maybe
> boyfriend in either the 67 or her Austin A40, she hasn't decided what to
> drive yet, and of course the 67 is a bare primered mess right now.
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Thu Dec 27 23:05:36 2007
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 22:05:36 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] NW Caravan? to 50th in Mo?
In-Reply-To: <441250190712272147l4037fc2ew24cb9bddf873df17@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1592782750.20071226212449@pacifier.com>
	<000601c848a8$3d0ee0f0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
	<431776646.20071227094442@pacifier.com>
	<017401c848b5$ffb2af80$6501a8c0@refisk> <477482B6.7010001@comcast.net>
	<441250190712272147l4037fc2ew24cb9bddf873df17@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <156985973.20071227220536@pacifier.com>

Hello Bill,

       from Kelso its a tad over 2000 miles but instead of I-90, its
       I-80... have you considered taking this "southern route" and
       meeting up with the Portland Area listers? or are there enough
       in Seatttle to make your own caravan?.. or should  Portland
       Area folks.head up  that way.....(could be hard to convice
       either group to go the longer route--for them00) google maps
       show 1994 miles from Portland, 2046 from
       Seattle..... its 160 miles from Seattle TO Portland, so driving
       south only adds 100 miles to the ONE WAY trip... ..

       it could be worth it either way if it means having a support
       caravan!?...




-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
   "66 Sprite
     "I want this statue to look like the Venus de Milo," said Tom disarmingly.

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Fri Dec 28 00:51:26 2007
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 23:51:26 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] NW Caravan? to 50th in Mo?
In-Reply-To: <156985973.20071227220536@pacifier.com>
References: <1592782750.20071226212449@pacifier.com>
	<000601c848a8$3d0ee0f0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
	<431776646.20071227094442@pacifier.com>
	<017401c848b5$ffb2af80$6501a8c0@refisk> <477482B6.7010001@comcast.net>
	<441250190712272147l4037fc2ew24cb9bddf873df17@mail.gmail.com>
	<156985973.20071227220536@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <441250190712272351u83deaf7m245eac673bf988fb@mail.gmail.com>

I have done the I90 route before so heading south could work.  It could be
I80 there, I90  back.  There are many ways to skin this cat.  If there are
people going from No. Ca they might go through Salt Lake City, and we could
add more to the group.  Anyone else who might be heading through Salt Lake?
The more the merrier.

-g


On 12/27/07, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Bill,
>
>       from Kelso its a tad over 2000 miles but instead of I-90, its
>       I-80... have you considered taking this "southern route" and
>       meeting up with the Portland Area listers? or are there enough
>       in Seatttle to make your own caravan?.. or should  Portland
>       Area folks.head up  that way.....(could be hard to convice
>       either group to go the longer route--for them00) google maps
>       show 1994 miles from Portland, 2046 from
>       Seattle..... its 160 miles from Seattle TO Portland, so driving
>       south only adds 100 miles to the ONE WAY trip... ..
>
>       it could be worth it either way if it means having a support
>       caravan!?...
>
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>   "66 Sprite
>     "I want this statue to look like the Venus de Milo," said Tom
> disarmingly.

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Fri Dec 28 00:53:37 2007
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 23:53:37 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Christmas Cheer
In-Reply-To: <B4141583-6989-4D1E-A8D0-D7C99B43D4CB@comcast.net>
References: <476B27CB.40609@comcast.net>
	<441250190712202227q6018156exb2cf47281fe52825@mail.gmail.com>
	<B4141583-6989-4D1E-A8D0-D7C99B43D4CB@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <441250190712272353t64870312hc38491cf665382ca@mail.gmail.com>

Wow, I guess I am not in tune with trailer park occupants.

On 12/26/07, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Sure she was hot but in two years when she turns 16 she'll be all used
> up..
>
> Lester
>
> .. think Brittney Speirs
>
>
>
> On Dec 21, 2007, at 12:27 AM, Bill Gilroy wrote:
>
> > Ok, was it only me or was that young lady with the baby hot?
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From paulbaker53 at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Dec 28 02:45:33 2007
From: paulbaker53 at yahoo.co.uk (Paul Baker)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 09:45:33 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Williams & Pritchard Sebring II
Message-ID: <491213.31295.qm@web27811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

Bob,

Not only is the sound great but the view over St Helier harbour is
something else - although I'm not usually looking at the view at that stage!!
Jersey is a fantastic weekend of motorsport with a moonlight quarter mile
sprint and two hill climbs over three days.  I'm not sure that Hill Climbing
and sprinting is as popular in the US as it is in the UK and Europe, hence you
may  not have seen the 'timing strut' before.  Its used to break the timing
beam at the start and finish of the hill climb or sprint and has to be a
regulation height, width etc..

Paul


----- Original Message ----
From: Bob
Van Kirk <racerbob70 at yahoo.com>
To: Paul Baker <paulbaker53 at yahoo.co.uk>
Sent:
Thursday, 27 December, 2007 8:48:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Williams &
Pritchard Sebring II

Paul,
  Great pictures!  I bet the sound bouncing off
that
stone wall was awesome.  Question, what is the purpose
of the single
black upright bar on the front of the
cars????
Thanks, Bob


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From paulbaker53 at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Dec 28 03:11:49 2007
From: paulbaker53 at yahoo.co.uk (Paul Baker)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 10:11:49 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Williams & Pritchard Sebring II
Message-ID: <394623.7251.qm@web27801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

William,

The Sebring 2 front is also quite rare in the UK.  I've not seen
another - apart from the awesome Michele Tommassi 'Ashley Sprite' he raced at
the Goodwood Revival two years ago in the Fordwater Trophy.   Take a look at
it on the www.Sebringsprite.com website.

It depends on the style and supplier
but the prices ranged from 350-500 pounds (700-1000 dollars).  I'm also having
the moulded headlight covers made for an extra 60 pounds.

Good luck with your
build.

Paul


----- Original Message ----
From: Wm. Severin Thompson
<wsthompson at thicko.com>
To: Paul Baker <paulbaker53 at yahoo.co.uk>
Sent:
Thursday, 27 December, 2007 8:19:48 PM
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Williams &
Pritchard Sebring II


Hello Paul,
 
I have that bonnet as wellb& quite rare
here in the US. What kind of costs are they charging to make one there in the
UK? 
 
WST

 
-----Original Message-----
From:
spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Paul Baker
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:42 PM
To: Daniel1312 at aol.com
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Williams & Pritchard
Sebring II
 
Daniel,
 
I bought my sprite last year which was supposed to have
an Ashley
front and hardtop.  After some research it turned out that the front
was a W&P
Sebring 2 and the hardtop from Ashley.  I located the company
(Fibresports)
that has the moulds which they bought from W&P many years ago.
I am having a
new lighterweight fibreglass front made and will be collecting
it next week.
They also have the moulds for the Sebring and Monza fronts. 
 
A
picture of the
current front on my Sprite can be seen on the
www.Healeysport.org website at
http://www.healeysport.org/images/SHC%20Westmount%2007/HTML/paul.htm  The
picture was taken when hillclimbing on Jersey.
 
Hope this helps
 
Paul
 
65
Mk3
Sprite
66 BJ8
67 BJ8
 
 
----- Original Message ----
From:
"Daniel1312 at aol.com"
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To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent:
Monday, 24 December,
2007 11:12:35 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Williams &
Pritchard Sebring II
 
Hi
list,
 
I've just learned about another fibreglass
front that I think was
discussed  
on the list some time ago.  Apparently
Williams & Pritchard
produced  
something called a Sebring II which looks like
the Ashley front
only with a  
rectangular grill aperture.
 
Apologies if
everyone knew this
already - as far as I know it's not  
documented in any
book.
 
The link should
go to the thread on the MG Cars bulletin Board
Regards
 
Daniel1312
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From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Fri Dec 28 05:50:15 2007
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 07:50:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NW Caravan? to 50th in Mo?
In-Reply-To: <441250190712272147l4037fc2ew24cb9bddf873df17@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1592782750.20071226212449@pacifier.com>
	<000601c848a8$3d0ee0f0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
	<431776646.20071227094442@pacifier.com>
	<017401c848b5$ffb2af80$6501a8c0@refisk> <477482B6.7010001@comcast.net>
	<441250190712272147l4037fc2ew24cb9bddf873df17@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2E9E9047-8F9E-4727-8B77-D3FDF57A84C6@phillymgclub.com>

For the scenic route, why not drop down I25 along the Big Horns of WY  
and into Colorado and pick up I70 in Denver. I know that from the  
Rockies to Missouri, is a whole lotta nuttin to look at, so take the  
scenic route to Kansas ;-)

(done the Arkansas to Wyoming drive more than once whilst going to  
school in Fayetteville)

Larry

On Dec 28, 2007, at 12:47 AM, Bill Gilroy wrote:

> 2 days from NJ.  It is a hair over 2,000 miles from Seattle.  That  
> is one
> long trip through a whole lot of nothing.  What this really means is  
> I have
> to get paint on my MG by the end of February so I can shake it down  
> before I
> head to MO.  But even @ 500 miles a day, that is about 10 hours of  
> driving
> each day, it will be 4 days.  Since the route will be something like:
>
> Seattle, Spokane, Missoula, Butte (should be called Butt), Billings,  
> Rapid
> City, Sioux Falls, Kanas City.  They are some really small cities  
> and a
> whole lot of nothing in between.  Used to think Spokane was a big  
> city until
> I got there; think New Brunswick, NJ without J&J.    My feelings are  
> bring
> the sunblock and plan 2 to 2.5 weeks and plan to sweat your whatever  
> off.
>
> -g
>
>
>
> On 12/27/07, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Rick Fisk wrote:
>>
>>> For me half the fun of a trip like this is taking off without so  
>>> much as
>> a
>>> map.
>>
>> With a 2 day drive to get there, 4 days there, 2 days back, 8 days  
>> in a
>> Sprite is enough. And the whole family is driving a Sprite or A40  
>> so we
>> are taking the fast and furious route. PA pike to I-70.
>> Me in my 59, my son and his wife in the 58, and my daughter and maybe
>> boyfriend in either the 67 or her Austin A40, she hasn't decided  
>> what to
>> drive yet, and of course the 67 is a bare primered mess right now.
>>
>> --
>> Frank Clarici
>> Toms River, NJ
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Fri Dec 28 07:00:16 2007
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 08:00:16 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Christmas Cheer
In-Reply-To: <441250190712272353t64870312hc38491cf665382ca@mail.gmail.com>
References: <476B27CB.40609@comcast.net>
	<441250190712202227q6018156exb2cf47281fe52825@mail.gmail.com>
	<B4141583-6989-4D1E-A8D0-D7C99B43D4CB@comcast.net>
	<441250190712272353t64870312hc38491cf665382ca@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A13970E9-0A61-4F21-A668-3E567015E744@comcast.net>

Spend a few years in Louisiana..

Lester


On Dec 28, 2007, at 1:53 AM, Bill Gilroy wrote:

> Wow, I guess I am not in tune with trailer park occupants.
>
> On 12/26/07, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:
> Sure she was hot but in two years when she turns 16 she'll be all used
> up..
>
> Lester
>
> .. think Brittney Speirs
>
>
>
> On Dec 21, 2007, at 12:27 AM, Bill Gilroy wrote:
>
> > Ok, was it only me or was that young lady with the baby hot?

From pythias at pacifier.com  Fri Dec 28 09:37:03 2007
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 08:37:03 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] NW Caravan? to 50th in Mo?
In-Reply-To: <441250190712272351u83deaf7m245eac673bf988fb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1592782750.20071226212449@pacifier.com>
	<000601c848a8$3d0ee0f0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
	<431776646.20071227094442@pacifier.com>
	<017401c848b5$ffb2af80$6501a8c0@refisk> <477482B6.7010001@comcast.net>
	<441250190712272147l4037fc2ew24cb9bddf873df17@mail.gmail.com>
	<156985973.20071227220536@pacifier.com>
	<441250190712272351u83deaf7m245eac673bf988fb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1831270688.20071228083703@pacifier.com>

Hello Bill,

       i was thinking kinda the same thing... about 1-80 out and i-90
       back! make it a kinda roundy round thing... ..

       any takers from the NW... ..

       any NoCal or SoCal  listers thinking of going thru Salt Lake City?




-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
   "66 Sprite
     "He's a boring chap," said Tom indulgently.

From bogodwin at bellsouth.net  Fri Dec 28 09:45:10 2007
From: bogodwin at bellsouth.net (Bobby Godwin)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 11:45:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] WTB Bugeye bonnet
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV3F6066286A38BD3EBEA68C8550@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <LDEDLPPKNKAGKNFICGALOEADDJAA.bogodwin@bellsouth.net>

	This brings up a question.  My fender beading, down below the turn signal
light, is rusting away.  I know you can buy replacements from BV.  They look
like, in the picture, that they have a flange that has to be inserted
between the fender and the top of the hood.  Can someone tell me how these
things are replaced.
							Bobby Godwin

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+bogodwin=bellsouth.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+bogodwin=bellsouth.net at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of
Robert E. Shlafer
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:32 AM
To: Michael Rowe; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] WTB Bugeye bonnet

Yep...mine. It's vented on top and the left hand side as well. It's got new
fender beading so no rust there. Has the normal
minor rusted out metal in each lower corner but it's definitely so big deal
and is
easily "restorable". I'll be replacing it with
a fibreglass bonnet in the early Spring. Along about April, maybe sooner if
it gets
warmer sooner! :)

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)
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From John.Deikis at va.gov  Fri Dec 28 10:16:45 2007
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:16:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Williams & Pritchard Sebring II
In-Reply-To: <991148.37245.qm@web27803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
References: <991148.37245.qm@web27803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921543@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

Daniel:
Just took a look at the healeysport.org website.
Do you Brits REALLY wear tuxedos at race banquets???
It's so.....continental!
We should try it down in the Ozarks next summer.
Shoes too.
-JohnD


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Baker [mailto:paulbaker53 at yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 2:42 PM
To: Daniel1312 at aol.com
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Williams & Pritchard Sebring II

Daniel,

I bought my sprite last year which was supposed to have an Ashley
front and hardtop.  After some research it turned out that the front was
a W&P
Sebring 2 and the hardtop from Ashley.  I located the company
(Fibresports)
that has the moulds which they bought from W&P many years ago.  I am
having a
new lighterweight fibreglass front made and will be collecting it next
week.
They also have the moulds for the Sebring and Monza fronts.

A picture of the
current front on my Sprite can be seen on the www.Healeysport.org
website at
http://www.healeysport.org/images/SHC%20Westmount%2007/HTML/paul.htm
The
picture was taken when hillclimbing on Jersey.

Hope this helps

Paul

65 Mk3
Sprite
66 BJ8
67 BJ8


----- Original Message ----
From: "Daniel1312 at aol.com"
<Daniel1312 at aol.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Monday, 24 December,
2007 11:12:35 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Williams & Pritchard Sebring II

Hi
list,

I've just learned about another fibreglass front that I think was
discussed
on the list some time ago.  Apparently Williams & Pritchard
produced
something called a Sebring II which looks like the Ashley front
only with a
rectangular grill aperture.

Apologies if everyone knew this
already - as far as I know it's not
documented in any book.

The link should
go to the thread on the MG Cars bulletin Board

Regards

Daniel1312
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From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Dec 28 10:21:04 2007
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 11:21:04 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071228111931.03338e58@mailbag.com>

.. in the following sentence (uttered during a snowstorm)

"People are driving like idiots out there!"


Peter C. (during a snowstorm in WI)

From derf247 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 28 10:23:38 2007
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 11:23:38 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20071228111931.03338e58@mailbag.com>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20071228111931.03338e58@mailbag.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910712280923q79633e53v8604334f19d567ee@mail.gmail.com>

Define idiot?  That's easy.  George Carlin did it years ago:
"Anyone driving slower than you is an idiot.
Anyone driving faster than you is a maniac."

Cheers,
Derf

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Fri Dec 28 11:00:15 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:00:15 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Williams & Pritchard Sebring II
In-Reply-To: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921543@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
References: <991148.37245.qm@web27803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
	<E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921543@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
Message-ID: <00f001c8497b$82186120$86492360$@com>

Hell, better start worrying about having enough teeth to go around...

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Deikis, John G
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 11:17 AM
To: Daniel1312 at aol.com
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Williams & Pritchard Sebring II

Daniel:
Just took a look at the healeysport.org website.
Do you Brits REALLY wear tuxedos at race banquets???
It's so.....continental!
We should try it down in the Ozarks next summer.
Shoes too.
-JohnD

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Fri Dec 28 11:03:57 2007
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 10:03:57 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20071228111931.03338e58@mailbag.com>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20071228111931.03338e58@mailbag.com>
Message-ID: <441250190712281003t488e60b5p5dcee9d47bdac8bc@mail.gmail.com>

Dude,

You have not seen anything until you watch the people in the Pac NW try to
drive in the snow.  They take it to new levels.  For example, last snow
storm I saw 3 cars in a ditch, all piled together door to door.  Add the
idiot trying to put chains on his Mercedes while parked in the fast lane,
and the fun begins.


-g



On Dec 28, 2007 9:21 AM, Peter C <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> .. in the following sentence (uttered during a snowstorm)
>
> "People are driving like idiots out there!"
>
>
> Peter C. (during a snowstorm in WI)
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From wsthompson at thicko.com  Fri Dec 28 11:06:44 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:06:44 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20071228111931.03338e58@mailbag.com>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20071228111931.03338e58@mailbag.com>
Message-ID: <00f101c8497c$69b6f730$3d24e590$@com>

Amen to that.

I had to go to town this AM... came across a GMC Blazer high centered on a
5' snowpile at the entrance to Rt. 41 and County N. Interesting thing
was.... it's still running, in gear, front and rear wheels spinning, and the
driver is out of the vehicle. When he got out to look at his predicament, he
didn't take it out of DRIVE, nor did he shut the motor off. Then, he
compounded his error by locking himself out of the vehicle. Nah... this
isn't dangerous at all.

Then of course, he's making the common error of standing near his vehicle in
the same slippery area that caused him to lose control... and it doesn't
occur to him to stand in a safer place. Ughhh.

His OnStar was disabled, so they couldn't help unlock the doors. I called
911, and an hour later a county sheriff with a Slim Jim to unlock the doors
and a tow truck showed up. 

I figured he was having a worse day than I was.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Peter C
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 11:21 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...

.. in the following sentence (uttered during a snowstorm)

"People are driving like idiots out there!"


Peter C. (during a snowstorm in WI)
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Fri Dec 28 11:14:24 2007
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:14:24 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Old Cars
Message-ID: <e98d88090712281014x1ced4e2arbd764d80cdffc04b@mail.gmail.com>

I just finished watching "Riding Giants", a film about the first big wave
riders in Hawaii, in the late 50's, early 60's. Lots of great old cars in
this film.
Bear in mind, I am to young to recognize many of these cars, but I know lots
of you on this list would get a kick out of seeing them. Of course, the surf
footage is amazing as well.

Brad

-- 
www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Dec 28 11:17:43 2007
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:17:43 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
In-Reply-To: <00f101c8497c$69b6f730$3d24e590$@com>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20071228111931.03338e58@mailbag.com>
	<00f101c8497c$69b6f730$3d24e590$@com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071228121422.033474e8@nosimport.com>

Oooh, was it MY sheriff?  The one we had coffee with after the Deere?

I spun on 41 once in my Peugeot 504 full of wimmen. Rested safely 
against the bridge wall, until the Statey came to our rescue by 
sliding into us and totaling both cars. So yes, I agree, step away 
from the vee-hi-cal.


At 12:06 PM 12/28/2007, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote:

>Amen to that.
>
>I had to go to town this AM... came across a GMC Blazer high centered on a
>5' snowpile at the entrance to Rt. 41 and County N. Interesting thing
>was.... it's still running, in gear, front and rear wheels spinning, and the
>driver is out of the vehicle. When he got out to look at his predicament, he
>didn't take it out of DRIVE, nor did he shut the motor off. Then, he
>compounded his error by locking himself out of the vehicle. Nah... this
>isn't dangerous at all.
>
>Then of course, he's making the common error of standing near his vehicle in
>the same slippery area that caused him to lose control... and it doesn't
>occur to him to stand in a safer place. Ughhh.
>
>His OnStar was disabled, so they couldn't help unlock the doors. I called
>911, and an hour later a county sheriff with a Slim Jim to unlock the doors
>and a tow truck showed up.
>
>I figured he was having a worse day than I was.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
>[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
>Peter C
>Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 11:21 AM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
>
>.. in the following sentence (uttered during a snowstorm)
>
>"People are driving like idiots out there!"
>
>
>Peter C. (during a snowstorm in WI)

From Daniel1312 at aol.com  Fri Dec 28 11:24:21 2007
From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 13:24:21 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Williams & Pritchard Sebring II
Message-ID: <d19.1afa3ced.34a69955@aol.com>

Well, to be honest I wouldn't know as personally I don't do banquets or  
tuxedos!
 
In a message dated 28/12/2007 17:17:10 GMT Standard Time,  John.Deikis at va.gov 
writes:

Daniel:
Just took a look at the healeysport.org website.   
Do you Brits REALLY wear tuxedos at race banquets???
It's  so.....continental!
We should try it down in the Ozarks next  summer.
Shoes too

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Dec 28 11:26:38 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:26:38 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Old Cars
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090712281014x1ced4e2arbd764d80cdffc04b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e98d88090712281014x1ced4e2arbd764d80cdffc04b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712281026m51a973b5n2438d3d65235859c@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/28/07, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   I just finished watching "Riding Giants", a film about the first big
> wave
> riders in Hawaii, in the late 50's, early 60's. Lots of great old cars in
> this film.
> Bear in mind, I am to young to recognize many of these cars, but I know
> lots
> of you on this list would get a kick out of seeing them. Of course, the
> surf
> footage is amazing as well.
>
> Brad
>










There were *cars* back then???!!!   Way cool, Dude!!!   Of course *I*
wouldn't know about those "Olden Days"...  <smurk!>
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From Daniel1312 at aol.com  Fri Dec 28 11:27:53 2007
From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 13:27:53 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Old Cars
Message-ID: <bc1.23e8bf6e.34a69a29@aol.com>

Well you would say that wouldn't you!  Where is Ed by the way?
 
Someone else..
 
In a message dated 28/12/2007 18:14:41 GMT Standard Time,  
tequila.brad at gmail.com writes:

late  50's, early 60's. Lots of great old cars in
this film.
Bear in mind, I  am to young to recognize many of these cars

From millerls at ado13.com  Fri Dec 28 11:36:30 2007
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 10:36:30 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] NW Caravan? to 50th in Mo?
References: <1592782750.20071226212449@pacifier.com><000601c848a8$3d0ee0f0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu><431776646.20071227094442@pacifier.com><017401c848b5$ffb2af80$6501a8c0@refisk>
	<477482B6.7010001@comcast.net><441250190712272147l4037fc2ew24cb9bddf873df17@mail.gmail.com><156985973.20071227220536@pacifier.com><441250190712272351u83deaf7m245eac673bf988fb@mail.gmail.com>
	<1831270688.20071228083703@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <002a01c84980$9116ef20$53997e4c@HP>

I'm located in Monterey/Salinas CA. About 100 miles south of San Francisco. 
We are whimping out and are going to haul BUGZUKI.

We have to stop for a day or two in Colorado Springs to visit Daughter so 
will be going South East to Barstow where we will pick up I 15 North.

I 15 North to I 70 East then South on I 25 to Colorado Springs.

>From there we will get back on I 70 and stay there until East of KC where we 
will pick up US 65 South to SR 7 at which point we will be quite near Osage 
Beach ;-)

Coming back we have to make a stop in Ozark Arkansas.

Not a trip conducive to caravanning but I will keep an eye out for Little 
British Cars.

If anyone has items they need to take to MO but don't have room email me off 
line and I might be able to help.

Larry Miller 

From stargazer1 at cox.net  Fri Dec 28 11:45:02 2007
From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 10:45:02 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20071228111931.03338e58@mailbag.com>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20071228111931.03338e58@mailbag.com>
Message-ID: <4775442E.1000004@cox.net>

Peter C wrote:

>.. in the following sentence (uttered during a snowstorm)
>
>"People are driving like idiots out there!"
>
>  
>
San Diego (CA) in a rainstorm. People driving waaay too fast for 
conditions. Lots of accidents that start as solo spinouts, then collect 
several innocent cars in the process. The county accident count goes 
from a few, to hundreds. Best to be playing Paul Simon's _Slip Slidin' 
Away_ on the stereo.

Cheers,
Dave Ambrose

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Dec 28 11:48:52 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:48:52 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
In-Reply-To: <441250190712281003t488e60b5p5dcee9d47bdac8bc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20071228111931.03338e58@mailbag.com>
	<441250190712281003t488e60b5p5dcee9d47bdac8bc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712281048y39114775q5c9baf314ce0c3b9@mail.gmail.com>

Oh I can top that easily.  Dodge City, Kansas.  Now 55% hispanic (about 50%
of that illegal and working in the meat packing plants). About 10% of the
population hasn't been in this country long enough to experience winter -
owns a car for the first time in their lives -  doesn't speak English - has
no license - has no insurance - believes that when the rear wheels start to
slip the proper procedure is to push the foot feed all the way to the floor
and hold it there - believes that you can drive as fast and stop as quickly
on ice as you can on dry pavement. When it snows here (or worse - an ice
storm), the WASPs stay off the roads out of fear for their life. We call it
the "Mexican Ice Capades" and it truly is beautiful to behold as long as you
are standing somewhere safe and not in a vehicle.  Pirouets, Sashays,
Chasses, Rumbas, Tangos, Enchuflas, Grapevines...   All performed with cars
at speed....
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

On 12/28/07, Bill Gilroy <wmgilroy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dude,
>
> You have not seen anything until you watch the people in the Pac NW try to
> drive in the snow.  They take it to new levels.  For example, last snow
> storm I saw 3 cars in a ditch, all piled together door to door.  Add the
> idiot trying to put chains on his Mercedes while parked in the fast lane,
> and the fun begins.

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Fri Dec 28 11:50:01 2007
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:50:01 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20071228111931.03338e58@mailbag.com>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20071228111931.03338e58@mailbag.com>
Message-ID: <D074445A-E0AC-427A-BC0E-8C427DC4AD60@comcast.net>

I vote for Brittny Speirs again..

Lester

On Dec 28, 2007, at 11:21 AM, Peter C wrote:

> .. in the following sentence (uttered during a snowstorm)
>
> "People are driving like idiots out there!"
>
>
> Peter C. (during a snowstorm in WI)

From John.Deikis at va.gov  Fri Dec 28 12:01:45 2007
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 14:01:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20071228111931.03338e58@mailbag.com>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20071228111931.03338e58@mailbag.com>
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921546@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

I hear myelf saying that every time I cross into Illinois-- winter or
summer.

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter C [mailto:peter at nosimport.com]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:21 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...

.. in the following sentence (uttered during a snowstorm)

"People are driving like idiots out there!"


Peter C. (during a snowstorm in WI)

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Dec 28 12:05:37 2007
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 13:05:37 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
In-Reply-To: <010001c8497f$73b93150$5b2b93f0$@com>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20071228111931.03338e58@mailbag.com>
	<00f101c8497c$69b6f730$3d24e590$@com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20071228121422.033474e8@nosimport.com>
	<010001c8497f$73b93150$5b2b93f0$@com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071228130319.03338720@nosimport.com>

Ya know, while she was writing up the report, standing next to her 
car with lights-a-blazing, she got hit in the elbow by a passing SUV. 
She flipped him off!  Beautiful. I still love her, and consider 
speeding whenever I go through FDL county.

At 12:28 PM 12/28/2007, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote:

>No... different county, I think.
>
>I think she still pines for you though...even when she goes to dykes with
>bikes conventions...
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Peter C [mailto:peter at nosimport.com]
>Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:18 PM
>To: Wm. Severin Thompson; spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
>
>Oooh, was it MY sheriff?  The one we had coffee with after the Deere?

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Dec 28 12:08:39 2007
From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 13:08:39 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20071228111931.03338e58@mailbag.com><441250190712281003t488e60b5p5dcee9d47bdac8bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0712281048y39114775q5c9baf314ce0c3b9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <039501c84985$0ea63230$6401a8c0@actualshop>

<<Pirouets, Sashays,
Chasses, Rumbas, Tangos, Enchuflas, Grapevines...   All performed with cars
at speed....>>

Good Grief!!!  NO Chicken Dance???    Lame<G>

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Fri Dec 28 12:18:08 2007
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 11:18:08 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0712281048y39114775q5c9baf314ce0c3b9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20071228111931.03338e58@mailbag.com>
	<441250190712281003t488e60b5p5dcee9d47bdac8bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0712281048y39114775q5c9baf314ce0c3b9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <441250190712281118x4868b15x224f4402be7ccb4e@mail.gmail.com>

That is an awful lot of skating terms for a straight guy to know and
identify.

On Dec 28, 2007 10:48 AM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> the "Mexican Ice Capades" and it truly is beautiful to behold as long as
> you
> are standing somewhere safe and not in a vehicle.  Pirouets, Sashays,
> Chasses, Rumbas, Tangos, Enchuflas, Grapevines...   All performed with
> cars
> at speed....

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Dec 28 12:33:05 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 14:33:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20071228111931.03338e58@mailbag.com>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20071228111931.03338e58@mailbag.com>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP11ED5E4872E672785A2567B8550@CEZ.ICE>

Anyone that drives like me.

-----Original Message-----
From: robertduquette=sympatico.ca
.. in the following sentence (uttered during a snowstorm)

"People are driving like idiots out there!"


Peter C. (during a snowstorm in WI)

From pythias at pacifier.com  Fri Dec 28 13:05:05 2007
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:05:05 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
In-Reply-To: <441250190712281003t488e60b5p5dcee9d47bdac8bc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20071228111931.03338e58@mailbag.com>
	<441250190712281003t488e60b5p5dcee9d47bdac8bc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <841299933.20071228120505@pacifier.com>

Hello Bill,

       what you fail to mention (of course this doesn't EXCUSE the
       inept drivers, and those who think 4wd allows them to stop and
       turn as fast as they can GET GOING) is the the snow in the NW
       IS SLICKER than that in the Northeast.. .. those NOT from the
       area will wonder.. HOW CAN THAT BE?... rest assured, it IS...
       mostly because when it snows its usually right around 32
       degrees.. the snow is dense and after someone drives on it
       ONCE, its PACKED ICE, .. not at all like that wispy blowy stuff
       that exists where its 15 degrees or less when it snows.. ..
       people from east of the Pacific NW see 3 inches of snow and
       LAUGH LAUGH LAUGH when they seattle shut down by that
       "little".. then they come out here and CRASH thinking THEY know
       how to drive in it.. ...

       enough rant.. sorry
       




-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
   "66 Sprite
     "I wonder why the hive's still empty," said Tom belatedly.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Dec 28 13:18:32 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:18:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
In-Reply-To: <841299933.20071228120505@pacifier.com>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20071228111931.03338e58@mailbag.com><441250190712281003t488e60b5p5dcee9d47bdac8bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<841299933.20071228120505@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP124DB4FED75EA8A015F994B8550@CEZ.ICE>

Up here in the great white north, we get a range of snow conditions.  Wispy
to wet ( not to mention freezing rain and 'black' ice ).  What catches a lot
of people off guard, is the polished packed snow at the intersections where
other people have slid to a stop and spun away.  You have pretty good
traction until you get to where you have to stop.

Have I mentioned lately how much I love the Subaru with snow tires for
winter driving?

Robert D.


-----Original Message-----
From: robertduquette=sympatico.ca

Hello Bill,

       what you fail to mention (of course this doesn't EXCUSE the
       inept drivers, and those who think 4wd allows them to stop and
       turn as fast as they can GET GOING) is the the snow in the NW
       IS SLICKER than that in the Northeast.. .. those NOT from the
       area will wonder.. HOW CAN THAT BE?... rest assured, it IS...
       mostly because when it snows its usually right around 32
       degrees.. the snow is dense and after someone drives on it
       ONCE, its PACKED ICE, .. not at all like that wispy blowy stuff
       that exists where its 15 degrees or less when it snows.. ..
       people from east of the Pacific NW see 3 inches of snow and
       LAUGH LAUGH LAUGH when they seattle shut down by that
       "little".. then they come out here and CRASH thinking THEY know
       how to drive in it.. ...

       enough rant.. sorry
       
-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
   "66 Sprite
     "I wonder why the hive's still empty," said Tom belatedly.

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Fri Dec 28 13:46:35 2007
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:46:35 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
In-Reply-To: <841299933.20071228120505@pacifier.com>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20071228111931.03338e58@mailbag.com>
	<441250190712281003t488e60b5p5dcee9d47bdac8bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<841299933.20071228120505@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <441250190712281246n57f3e88dm317c6d421ab5285e@mail.gmail.com>

I agree that the stuff here is slicker than pig snot, but not every idiot on
the road is a first time snow driver in the PACNW.  I managed just fine last
winter with winter tires on my wife's Passat and chains on my S10.  The only
thing I could not do was get my truck up the mountain that I live on, so I
would have to walk the last mile.  I could make if there was nobody else
stuck on the hill, but that is almost never happened.  I can't stop  my
truck on the hill then get started again.  My wife's car can do that with
winter tires.

Still I see way more stupid in the snow out here than in NJ; you would think
the locals could find a way to drive without plunging into the ditches.  It
was way funny watching people try to get up my mountain last year; I stood
there for an hour and just laughed as people made the attempt.  I wound up
betting with some guy if each car would get up the hill or not.  In the end
there was a group of betting on if the cars could get up the hill and what
they would hit when they started to slide back down.

-g



On Dec 28, 2007 12:05 PM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:

> Hello Bill,
>
>       what you fail to mention (of course this doesn't EXCUSE the
>       inept drivers, and those who think 4wd allows them to stop and
>       turn as fast as they can GET GOING) is the the snow in the NW
>       IS SLICKER than that in the Northeast.. .. those NOT from the
>       area will wonder.. HOW CAN THAT BE?... rest assured, it IS...
>       mostly because when it snows its usually right around 32
>       degrees.. the snow is dense and after someone drives on it
>       ONCE, its PACKED ICE, .. not at all like that wispy blowy stuff
>       that exists where its 15 degrees or less when it snows.. ..
>       people from east of the Pacific NW see 3 inches of snow and
>       LAUGH LAUGH LAUGH when they seattle shut down by that
>       "little".. then they come out here and CRASH thinking THEY know
>       how to drive in it.. ...
>
>       enough rant.. sorry
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>   "66 Sprite
>     "I wonder why the hive's still empty," said Tom belatedly.

From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri Dec 28 15:36:48 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:36:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
In-Reply-To: <841299933.20071228120505@pacifier.com>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20071228111931.03338e58@mailbag.com>
	<441250190712281003t488e60b5p5dcee9d47bdac8bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<841299933.20071228120505@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <47757A80.5000205@comcast.net>

Bill L wrote:
>       the snow in the NW
>        IS SLICKER than that in the Northeast.. .. those NOT from the
>        area will wonder.. HOW CAN THAT BE?... rest assured, it IS...
>        mostly because when it snows its usually right around 32
>        degrees.. 

Gilroy,

Shall we tell him it's usually 33 and raining then it drops to 31 and 
snows then it warms back up to 33 and makes the ice wet here in NJ.
But here we KNOW how to drive on the stuff.
I bet it's the same stuff out there that you grew up on back here.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From lbc at littlebitcountry.com  Fri Dec 28 15:54:21 2007
From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:54:21 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
In-Reply-To: <441250190712281118x4868b15x224f4402be7ccb4e@mail.gmail.com
  >
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20071228111931.03338e58@mailbag.com>
	<441250190712281003t488e60b5p5dcee9d47bdac8bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0712281048y39114775q5c9baf314ce0c3b9@mail.gmail.com>
	<441250190712281118x4868b15x224f4402be7ccb4e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071228175232.046d6f28@littlebitcountry.com>

Speaking of Straight Guys !!! How did you know they were skating 
terms, I thought they were Mexican dance moves.

Dave

At 02:18 PM 12/28/2007, you wrote:
>That is an awful lot of skating terms for a straight guy to know and
>identify.
>
>On Dec 28, 2007 10:48 AM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > the "Mexican Ice Capades" and it truly is beautiful to behold as long as
> > you
> > are standing somewhere safe and not in a vehicle.  Pirouets, Sashays,
> > Chasses, Rumbas, Tangos, Enchuflas, Grapevines...   All performed with
> > cars
> > at speed....
>______________

From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri Dec 28 15:57:13 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:57:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] WTB Bugeye bonnet
In-Reply-To: <LDEDLPPKNKAGKNFICGALOEADDJAA.bogodwin@bellsouth.net>
References: <LDEDLPPKNKAGKNFICGALOEADDJAA.bogodwin@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <47757F49.7020506@comcast.net>

Bobby Godwin wrote:
> 	This brings up a question.  My fender beading,

>  Can someone tell me how these things are replaced.

Remove the fender from the bonnet, now you can get to the T moulding.
Or weld a suitable replacement over the seam.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From dmg at bossig.com  Fri Dec 28 16:17:41 2007
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:17:41 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
In-Reply-To: <47757A80.5000205@comcast.net>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20071228111931.03338e58@mailbag.com>,
	<841299933.20071228120505@pacifier.com>,
	<47757A80.5000205@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <47751395.977.17A95F8@dmg.bossig.com>

Sounds suspiciously like "Stone Soup" to me..  ;-))

On 28 Dec 2007 at 17:36, Frank Clarici wrote:

>> Bill L wrote:
>> >       the snow in the NW
>> >        IS SLICKER than that in the Northeast.. .. those NOT from the
>> >        area will wonder.. HOW CAN THAT BE?... rest assured, it IS...
>> >        mostly because when it snows its usually right around 32
>> >        degrees.. 
>> 
>> Gilroy,
>> 
>> Shall we tell him it's usually 33 and raining then it drops to 31 and 
>> snows then it warms back up to 33 and makes the ice wet here in NJ.
>> But here we KNOW how to drive on the stuff.
>> I bet it's the same stuff out there that you grew up on back here.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Frank Clarici
-
Dave G, KK7SS
'65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Dec 28 17:13:18 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:13:18 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20071228111931.03338e58@mailbag.com><441250190712281003t488e60b5p5dcee9d47bdac8bc@mail.gmail.com><841299933.20071228120505@pacifier.com>
	<441250190712281246n57f3e88dm317c6d421ab5285e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <02ef01c849af$9d820ef0$6401a8c0@Larry>

Hopefully you had enough adult beverages to properly enjoy such a spectacle.

LAD

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Gilroy" <wmgilroy at gmail.com>
To: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...


I agree that the stuff here is slicker than pig snot, but not every idiot on
the road is a first time snow driver in the PACNW.  I managed just fine last
winter with winter tires on my wife's Passat and chains on my S10.  The only
thing I could not do was get my truck up the mountain that I live on, so I
would have to walk the last mile.  I could make if there was nobody else
stuck on the hill, but that is almost never happened.  I can't stop  my
truck on the hill then get started again.  My wife's car can do that with
winter tires.

Still I see way more stupid in the snow out here than in NJ; you would think
the locals could find a way to drive without plunging into the ditches.  It
was way funny watching people try to get up my mountain last year; I stood
there for an hour and just laughed as people made the attempt.  I wound up
betting with some guy if each car would get up the hill or not.  In the end
there was a group of betting on if the cars could get up the hill and what
they would hit when they started to slide back down.

-g

From pythias at pacifier.com  Fri Dec 28 17:55:59 2007
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 16:55:59 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
In-Reply-To: <47757A80.5000205@comcast.net>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20071228111931.03338e58@mailbag.com>
	<441250190712281003t488e60b5p5dcee9d47bdac8bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<841299933.20071228120505@pacifier.com> <47757A80.5000205@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1192649799.20071228165559@pacifier.com>

Hello,

        i failed to mention the obvious.. they NEVER SALT the roads in
        the PAC NW... when i lived in NY, (Putnam County) within three
        days the major roads had been CLEARED. there's no challenge in
        driving in NEW snow.. its the stuff that's been there for DAYS
        and gets packed down that'll get ya.. ... AND

        ANYBODY can drive with chains on.. or snow tires with studs..
        big deal.. don't even need 4WD! .. try it with all seasons in
        the PAC NW.... with rear wheel drive, .. ..

        i KNOW most listers can do it.. its the amateurs (who as Bill
        Gilroy pointed out, will stop going up a hill... D'oh) who get
        ya when you're tooling around!..  heck driving in that snot is
        how most of learned car control!

       
        

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com

      * "This is the fastest way to get drunk," said Tom quixotically.

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Dec 28 17:56:29 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:56:29 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Spam Filters
Message-ID: <030301c849b5$a5d977e0$6401a8c0@Larry>

Has anybody else been having a problem with your spam filter taking out
autox.team.net messages lately?  My Yahoo groups aren't affected, but the darn
thing is taking out about 1/2 of my Spridget and MG lists through Mark.  It
has been going on for, it seems, 2 to 3 weeks now.

I have DSL with AT&T Yahoo.


LAD

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Dec 28 17:57:56 2007
From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:57:56 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20071228111931.03338e58@mailbag.com>
	<E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921546@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
Message-ID: <0d4601c849b5$d98c2dd0$6401a8c0@actualshop>

<<I hear myelf saying that every time I cross into Illinois-- winter or
summer.>>

AND spring & fall, JD!!!  NEVER stops!!!

From dwramsey at att.net  Fri Dec 28 18:10:45 2007
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:10:45 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
In-Reply-To: <BAYC1-PASMTP124DB4FED75EA8A015F994B8550@CEZ.ICE>
Message-ID: <20071229011144.E9970187AD1@autox.team.net>

It is the black ice that gets the 4 wheelers around here. Ever since they
invented M&S tires when it rains on Donner summit on I80 they require chains
unless you have 4 wheel drive, so you end up with a lane doing 30mph with
the 4X4's going by at 65. Works until they hit the black ice then the 4X4's
are all over the sides of the road wondering what happened. My Jeep Wrangler
will swap ends at 20 when you try to brake, unless you have studded snows on
all 4 corners.  A couple of year ago we had 7' of snow here in town, which
worked out to about waist deep on the roads. I really had to slow down
because the Jeep would plow the snow up over the windshield and I couldn't
see.  The city fathers in their great wisdom had everything out that could
push snow on the main streets and they were dry in 2 days, of course they
didn't do anything on the side streets so you had to chain up, drive two
blocks and then remove the chains, got old after a week. I did learn a
valuable lesson, next time I'll make two lanes on my street with the Jeep.
		Crash

Up here in the great white north, we get a range of snow conditions.  Wispy
to wet ( not to mention freezing rain and 'black' ice ).  What catches a lot
of people off guard, is the polished packed snow at the intersections where
other people have slid to a stop and spun away.  You have pretty good
traction until you get to where you have to stop.

Have I mentioned lately how much I love the Subaru with snow tires for
winter driving?

Robert D.

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Fri Dec 28 19:42:34 2007
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 20:42:34 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
In-Reply-To: <441250190712281118x4868b15x224f4402be7ccb4e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20071228111931.03338e58@mailbag.com>
	<441250190712281003t488e60b5p5dcee9d47bdac8bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0712281048y39114775q5c9baf314ce0c3b9@mail.gmail.com>
	<441250190712281118x4868b15x224f4402be7ccb4e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090712281842g5697ea7arce384930a6ea002f@mail.gmail.com>

I didn't know they were skating terms......
Sooooo Mr Bill, are you *REALLY *married???

LOL

On Dec 28, 2007 1:18 PM, Bill Gilroy <wmgilroy at gmail.com> wrote:

> That is an awful lot of skating terms for a straight guy to know and
> identify.
>
> On Dec 28, 2007 10:48 AM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > the "Mexican Ice Capades" and it truly is beautiful to behold as long as
> > you
> > are standing somewhere safe and not in a vehicle.  Pirouets, Sashays,
> > Chasses, Rumbas, Tangos, Enchuflas, Grapevines...   All performed with
> > cars
> > at speed....
> _______________________________________________
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-- 
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From racerbob70 at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 28 19:51:49 2007
From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:51:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Spam Filters
In-Reply-To: <030301c849b5$a5d977e0$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <88495.19760.qm@web51609.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Larry,
  The same is happening to me also.  I contacted Yahoo
and got a form type of answer.  Said how I had to mark
them as "not spam"!!!!!  Well I've been marking them
for over 2 weeks now and I'm still getting them.  What
pisses me off is that I have to download each message
to mark it as spam.  If I could just mark it with a
drag down menu wouldn't be so bad..


--- Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Has anybody else been having a problem with your
> spam filter taking out
> autox.team.net messages lately?  My Yahoo groups
> aren't affected, but the darn
> thing is taking out about 1/2 of my Spridget and MG
> lists through Mark.  It
> has been going on for, it seems, 2 to 3 weeks now.
> 
> I have DSL with AT&T Yahoo.
> 
> 
> LAD
> _______________________________________________
> Support 


      ____________________________________________________________________________________
Looking for last minute shopping deals?  
Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.  http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Dec 28 19:54:33 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 20:54:33 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Spam Filters
References: <88495.19760.qm@web51609.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <036301c849c6$245c9a60$6401a8c0@Larry>

I just went into my spam filter and had it take all messages with [Spridget] 
in the subject and move them to the inbox.  Time will tell how well it 
works.

Larry


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Van Kirk" <racerbob70 at yahoo.com>
To: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>; "Spridgets List" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spam Filters


Larry,
  The same is happening to me also.  I contacted Yahoo
and got a form type of answer.  Said how I had to mark
them as "not spam"!!!!!  Well I've been marking them
for over 2 weeks now and I'm still getting them.  What
pisses me off is that I have to download each message
to mark it as spam.  If I could just mark it with a
drag down menu wouldn't be so bad..


--- Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Has anybody else been having a problem with your
> spam filter taking out
> autox.team.net messages lately?  My Yahoo groups
> aren't affected, but the darn
> thing is taking out about 1/2 of my Spridget and MG
> lists through Mark.  It
> has been going on for, it seems, 2 to 3 weeks now.
>
> I have DSL with AT&T Yahoo.
>
>
> LAD
> _______________________________________________
> Support


      ____________________________________________________________________________________
Looking for last minute shopping deals?
Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. 
http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping 

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Fri Dec 28 20:04:53 2007
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 21:04:53 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Spam Filters
In-Reply-To: <88495.19760.qm@web51609.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <030301c849b5$a5d977e0$6401a8c0@Larry>
	<88495.19760.qm@web51609.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <006801c849c7$9783b590$c68b20b0$@com>

It is not just a Yahoo issue.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Bob Van Kirk
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:52 PM
To: Larry Daniels; Spridgets List
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spam Filters

Larry,
  The same is happening to me also.  I contacted Yahoo
and got a form type of answer.  Said how I had to mark
them as "not spam"!!!!!  Well I've been marking them
for over 2 weeks now and I'm still getting them.  What
pisses me off is that I have to download each message
to mark it as spam.  If I could just mark it with a
drag down menu wouldn't be so bad..

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Dec 28 22:56:22 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 23:56:22 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Speeding Ticket
In-Reply-To: <159082.3604.qm@web63408.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <000001c8483b$87cfec00$6601a8c0@D6CMZZ71>
	<159082.3604.qm@web63408.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712282156g2bac8107tf745dc1df213c4b4@mail.gmail.com>

Top this for a speeding ticket:

Two British traffic patrol officers from North Berwick were involved in an
unusual incident while checking for speeding motorists on the A1 Great North
Road . One of the officers used a hand-held radar device to check the speed
of a vehicle approaching over the crest of a hill, and was surprised when
the speed was recorded at over 300 mph. Their radar suddenly stopped working
and the officers were not able to reset it.

Just then a deafening roar over the treetops revealed that the radar had in
fact latched on to a NATO Tornado fighter jet which was engaged in a low
flying exercise over the Border district, approaching from the North Sea .

Back at police headquarters the chief constable fired off a stiff complaint
to the RAF Liaison office.

Back came the reply in true laconic RAF style:

"Thank you for your message, which allows us to complete the file on this
incident. You may be interested to know that the tactical computer in the
Tornado had detected the presence of, and subsequently locked onto, your
hostile radar equipment and automatically sent a jamming signal back to it.
Furthermore, an air-to-ground missile aboard the fully-armed aircraft had
also automatically locked onto your equipment.

Fortunately the pilot flying the Tornado recognized the situation for what
it was, quickly responded to the missile systems alert status, and was able
to override the automated defense system before the missile was launched and
your hostile radar installation was destroyed.

Good Day..."
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Dec 28 23:12:16 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 00:12:16 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090712281842g5697ea7arce384930a6ea002f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20071228111931.03338e58@mailbag.com>
	<441250190712281003t488e60b5p5dcee9d47bdac8bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0712281048y39114775q5c9baf314ce0c3b9@mail.gmail.com>
	<441250190712281118x4868b15x224f4402be7ccb4e@mail.gmail.com>
	<e98d88090712281842g5697ea7arce384930a6ea002f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712282212n60298825w585fd883df81aa13@mail.gmail.com>

They aren't skating terms, you uncouth cretins!  They are dance steps for
everything from ballet to salsa. Looks like I wasted two minutes of my
valuable time typing THAT analogy. Henceforth I'll stick to guns, cats,
Frank Zappa and turds in the punch bowl.

Pearls before swine...   ;-)
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

On 12/28/07, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I didn't know they were skating terms......
> Sooooo Mr Bill, are you *REALLY *married???
>
> LOL
>
> On Dec 28, 2007 1:18 PM, Bill Gilroy <wmgilroy at gmail.com > wrote:
>
> > That is an awful lot of skating terms for a straight guy to know and
> > identify.
> >
> > On Dec 28, 2007 10:48 AM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > the "Mexican Ice Capades" and it truly is beautiful to behold as long
> > as
> > > you
> > > are standing somewhere safe and not in a vehicle.  Pirouets, Sashays,
> > > Chasses, Rumbas, Tangos, Enchuflas, Grapevines...   All performed with
> > > cars
> > > at speed....

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Fri Dec 28 23:29:39 2007
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 22:29:39 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
In-Reply-To: <47757A80.5000205@comcast.net>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20071228111931.03338e58@mailbag.com>
	<441250190712281003t488e60b5p5dcee9d47bdac8bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<841299933.20071228120505@pacifier.com> <47757A80.5000205@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <441250190712282229h64c2251aj7931be178fe958b@mail.gmail.com>

The difference here is that they have hills all over.  Also I think there is
all of 1 snow plow in King County.  In my town they have about 1 sanding
truck, no salt and maybe a plow.  The stuff stay around until God decides it
is time to send it to the rivers.  It is worst here, add in all the MS guys
with BMW's and summer tires; oh the fun.

-g



On 12/28/07, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Bill L wrote:
> >       the snow in the NW
> >        IS SLICKER than that in the Northeast.. .. those NOT from the
> >        area will wonder.. HOW CAN THAT BE?... rest assured, it IS...
> >        mostly because when it snows its usually right around 32
> >        degrees..
>
> Gilroy,
>
> Shall we tell him it's usually 33 and raining then it drops to 31 and
> snows then it warms back up to 33 and makes the ice wet here in NJ.
> But here we KNOW how to drive on the stuff.
> I bet it's the same stuff out there that you grew up on back here.
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Fri Dec 28 23:34:53 2007
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 22:34:53 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090712281842g5697ea7arce384930a6ea002f@mail.gmail.com>
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Clearly I passed the straight test.  Jim said " Ice Capades" so I assumed
that they were skating moves.  Turns out they are dance moves and I could
not identify them as even that.

On 12/28/07, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I didn't know they were skating terms......
> Sooooo Mr Bill, are you *REALLY *married???

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Fri Dec 28 23:39:33 2007
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 22:39:33 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
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I also forgot, it seems here in the Pac NW once your car starts to slide
most people here just press on the brakes even harder.  They would slide off
the road because the wheels are locked.  If they did not touch the brakes
they could have driven down the hill.  Funniest one was a Subaru that almost
made it to the top of the hill.  When he started to slide backwards he
hammered the brakes and locked the wheels.  He slide backwards about 1/2 of
the way down the hill gaining speed all the way.  He drifted to the right
and bounced off the front of a stuck mini van and when over the curb, and
about 30 feet down the side of the road into the trees.  We all gave him a
10 expect for the Russian judge who gave in a 7.5.

-g



On 12/28/07, Bill Gilroy <wmgilroy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The difference here is that they have hills all over.  Also I think there
> is all of 1 snow plow in King County.  In my town they have about 1 sanding
> truck, no salt and maybe a plow.  The stuff stay around until God decides it
> is time to send it to the rivers.  It is worst here, add in all the MS guys
> with BMW's and summer tires; oh the fun.

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sat Dec 29 00:08:50 2007
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 23:08:50 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
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Hello Bill,

       What a crack-up!  (pun INTENDED).. .

       i used to go out in my dads BUICK when it was slick out and
       throw it into slides, punch the gas to get it twisted up, and
       go driving over the hills ... its made my car control
       "instinctive".. i don't have to think about steering into the
       slide, adding power in a corner, .... all those things they try
       to tell you in driver's ed. but can't DEMONSTRATE, let alone
       let you practice... ... never put it in the ditch, OR hit
       anything that did any damage!!! .. ... .. ...

       I take it YOU ARE planning for MO.!  too cool.. i'm hoping for
       more than one from the Seattle Area, .. ? ... ?    Should be
       one, (or more) from BC?... ..
       SPIKE? from Marysville?




-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
   "66 Sprite
     "I haven't developed my photographs yet," said Tom negatively.

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Sat Dec 29 00:50:23 2007
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 23:50:23 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Spam Filters
In-Reply-To: <030301c849b5$a5d977e0$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <343226.89331.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Me Too - Ton of them in the spam box. Guess Yahoo does not like cars....LOL
   
  Vigil

Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
  Has anybody else been having a problem with your spam filter taking out
autox.team.net messages lately? My Yahoo groups aren't affected, but the darn
thing is taking out about 1/2 of my Spridget and MG lists through Mark. It
has been going on for, it seems, 2 to 3 weeks now.

I have DSL with AT&T Yahoo.


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From james.f.juhas at snet.net  Sat Dec 29 06:49:00 2007
From: james.f.juhas at snet.net (Jim Juhas)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 8:49:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] WTB Bugeye bonnet
Message-ID: <20071229135017.34B56187A00@autox.team.net>

Another method is to take the new T piece and cut the leg off.  Then braze the ead portion over the seam, once you have ground down/out the old bead.  Won't last as long, though.

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Sat Dec 29 11:22:22 2007
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 13:22:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Carpet - Identify these. . .
Message-ID: <68vr7k$278sbf@email.mtu.edu>

During February of 1991, I purchased a "Delux Do-it-yourselfer's 
Dream" carpet kit from VB (item # 9-9527 BL - it's still in their 
catalog!). Today I am beginning to install it. The original carpets 
were moldy & stinky so are long gone. That means I am "flying blind" 
on the install. The only thing I have is a page with the pieces shown 
in roughly their side-by-side orientation. Off to the side are shown 
three "strange" little pieces. I can't determine where they are 
intended to be used. Two are left/right pieces, roughly triangular, 
with one leg being 2-3/4" and the other 3-1/2". Instead of a straight 
line for the hypotenuse, they are connected with an arc. These are 
not bound. The other piece is a rectangle measuring 8 x 9 inches - 
not bound. In the supplied diagram these are marked "K" and "L" 
(rectangle). Where do these go?

Also, an envelop contains 10 carpet snaps. These are the two piece 
units. One piece, a ring with prongs, pierces the carpet and then the 
prongs are bent over the snap part. I believe 8 of these are used on 
the parcel shelf. Where are the other 2 used? I seem to remember that 
the carpet pieces under the seats and footwells snapped in too. The 
car is missing a lot of snap holes which could serve as clues because 
of the new patch panels. If more carpet pieces snap in, then I'm 
going to have to find more snap's.

What's a good carpet adhesive? Isn't there a 3M 777 product that's good?

The car is finally home, painted and ready for assembly. I added some 
new photos at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ They aren't 
in chronological order (wish I could fix that), but you can figure them out.

Tim Collins
1966 AH Sprite 

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat Dec 29 14:56:52 2007
From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:56:52 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
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Message-ID: <066401c84a65$baa29a70$6401a8c0@actualshop>

<<They aren't skating terms, you uncouth cretins!  They are dance steps for
everything from ballet to salsa.>>

Which IS why I made the crack about you MISSING the "Chicken Dance", Jim!!!
LOL

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sat Dec 29 15:01:09 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:01:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
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No ABS???

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Gilroy
Funniest one was a Subaru that almost
made it to the top of the hill.  When he started to slide backwards he
hammered the brakes and locked the wheels.  He slide backwards about 1/2 of
the way down the hill gaining speed all the way.  He drifted to the right
and bounced off the front of a stuck mini van and when over the curb, and
about 30 feet down the side of the road into the trees.  We all gave him a
10 expect for the Russian judge who gave in a 7.5.

-g

From Mgleigh at aol.com  Sat Dec 29 15:16:55 2007
From: Mgleigh at aol.com (Mgleigh at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:16:55 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] speeding ticket
Message-ID: <d6a.17452825.34a82157@aol.com>

Sure would be cool to have that happen to some of the speed traps around  
here.  If I were the officer involved, I think I might have a mild coronary  
after receiving that letter.
Leigh
59 Sprite 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Back came the reply in true laconic RAF style:

"Thank you for your  message, which allows us to complete the file on this
incident. You may be  interested to know that the tactical computer in the
Tornado had detected the  presence of, and subsequently locked onto, your
hostile radar equipment and  automatically sent a jamming signal back to it.
Furthermore, an air-to-ground  missile aboard the fully-armed aircraft had
also automatically locked onto  your equipment.

Fortunately the pilot flying the Tornado recognized the  situation for what
it was, quickly responded to the missile systems alert  status, and was able
to override the automated defense system before the  missile was launched and
your hostile radar installation was  destroyed.




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From p.herder at cox.net  Sat Dec 29 15:25:19 2007
From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:25:19 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] speeding ticket ... not
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This has been around for a while ...

Good story but untrue.

http://www.snopes.com/horrors/techno/radar.asp

-----Original Message-----

Sure would be cool to have that happen to some of the speed traps around  
here.  If I were the officer involved, I think I might have a mild coronary

after receiving that letter.
Leigh
59 Sprite 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Back came the reply in true laconic RAF style:

"Thank you for your  message, which allows us to complete the file on this
incident. You may be  interested to know that the tactical computer in the
Tornado had detected the  presence of, and subsequently locked onto, your
hostile radar equipment and  automatically sent a jamming signal back to it.
Furthermore, an air-to-ground  missile aboard the fully-armed aircraft had
also automatically locked onto  your equipment.

Fortunately the pilot flying the Tornado recognized the  situation for what
it was, quickly responded to the missile systems alert  status, and was able
to override the automated defense system before the  missile was launched
and
your hostile radar installation was  destroyed.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Dec 29 15:34:45 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:34:45 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] speeding ticket ... not
In-Reply-To: <A6E2B7639F0B4B78AD2860B3FEDD3A06@PaulVU>
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I'm not surprised it is a fake. None of the many fighter pilots I have known
would have stopped the HARM from launching...   ;-)
Jim

On 12/29/07, Paul Herder <p.herder at cox.net> wrote:
>
> This has been around for a while ...
>
> Good story but untrue.
>
> http://www.snopes.com/horrors/techno/radar.asp
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> Sure would be cool to have that happen to some of the speed traps around
> here.  If I were the officer involved, I think I might have a mild
> coronary
>
> after receiving that letter.
> Leigh
> 59 Sprite
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Back came the reply in true laconic RAF style:
>
> "Thank you for your  message, which allows us to complete the file on this
> incident. You may be  interested to know that the tactical computer in the
> Tornado had detected the  presence of, and subsequently locked onto, your
> hostile radar equipment and  automatically sent a jamming signal back to
> it.
> Furthermore, an air-to-ground  missile aboard the fully-armed aircraft had
> also automatically locked onto  your equipment.
>
> Fortunately the pilot flying the Tornado recognized the  situation for
> what
> it was, quickly responded to the missile systems alert  status, and was
> able
> to override the automated defense system before the  missile was launched
> and
> your hostile radar installation was  destroyed.
> _______________________________________________

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Dec 29 18:59:56 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 20:59:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Carpet - Identify these. . .
In-Reply-To: <68vr7k$278sbf@email.mtu.edu>
References: <68vr7k$278sbf@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <4776FB9C.9000806@comcast.net>

Timothy H. Collins wrote:
> Off to the side are shown 
> three "strange" little pieces. 

2 with the arcs go on the frame at the rear wheel hump/back shelf. (L&R)
The other 2 are for the frame rails that run from the frame in front of 
the seat to the gas pedal along that footwell frame. It folds over the 
frame near the cross frame in front of the seat but tapers to about a 2" 
piece at the gas pedal. Same on the other side. (left/right)


> Also, an envelop contains 10 carpet snaps. 
6 on the back shelf, 2 each on the top of footwells, tranny tunnel had 
snaps too.


> What's a good carpet adhesive? Isn't there a 3M 777 product that's good?

3M #74 works great for carpets. It lets you remove them in the future 
without having the loop rip out/off like some stronger glues.
I glue all my carpets, even the tranny hump and when I need to check or 
fill the tranny, I just spray the rug with a shot of glue.
I never had anything come loose except maybe the footwell rugs which I 
never use, I use rubber mats cuz the rugs wear out of come loose ;)

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat Dec 29 20:46:53 2007
From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 21:46:53 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] NW Caravan? to 50th in Mo?
References: <20071227204124.TEYC21064.hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL><00bd01c848cd$f500e030$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx>
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Message-ID: <069d01c84a96$9e797950$6401a8c0@actualshop>

Jim Johnson wrote and I quote:

"Charlie's right about east OK and the Mother Road... "

In regards to the Mother Road and for you folks "worried" about the "Trip to
The Ozarks" please visit:

http://www.justbrits.com/cars/Austin7s.html

and "learn" just what "adventure" means!!!!  <VBG>

Keep in mind those cars are SMALLER than even Frogeyes!!!!    Yikes!!  IIRC,
David Lieb (of spridgets at autox "fame") also saw them and met the Brits!!

Awesome!!
Ed

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sat Dec 29 20:56:30 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 21:56:30 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] NW Caravan? to 50th in Mo?
References: <20071227204124.TEYC21064.hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL><00bd01c848cd$f500e030$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx><43840a7e0712271808t12c81518i9091c19637be1462@mail.gmail.com>
	<069d01c84a96$9e797950$6401a8c0@actualshop>
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> http://www.justbrits.com/cars/Austin7s.html
>
> and "learn" just what "adventure" means!!!!  <VBG>
>
> Keep in mind those cars are SMALLER than even Frogeyes!!!!    Yikes!! 
> IIRC,
> David Lieb (of spridgets at autox "fame") also saw them and met the Brits!!

And most of those same Baby Austins had gone from Buenos Aires over the 
Andes to the coast of Chile and back the year before. The white car had a 
most impressive collection of spare parts from bolts to a differential ring 
gear tucked into an assortment of compartments. Delightful people! More 
pictures at http://www.a7route66.typepad.com/
David Lieb 

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Sat Dec 29 21:30:01 2007
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 20:30:01 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
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Maybe only ABS on the rear wheels?

On 12/29/07, Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> No ABS???
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Gilroy
> Funniest one was a Subaru that almost
> made it to the top of the hill.  When he started to slide backwards he
> hammered the brakes and locked the wheels.  He slide backwards about 1/2
> of
> the way down the hill gaining speed all the way.  He drifted to the right
> and bounced off the front of a stuck mini van and when over the curb, and
> about 30 feet down the side of the road into the trees.  We all gave him a
> 10 expect for the Russian judge who gave in a 7.5.
>
> -g
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From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Sat Dec 29 22:53:46 2007
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 21:53:46 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
Message-ID: <02a801c84aa8$57ce7b10$116a010a@mail2world.com>

ABS works on speed difference between the wheels.That's one reason why
it doesn't go off at a dead stop. Lock 'em up at 0mph, and then start to
slide, and it'll do you no good. But if you let go and start rolling,
and then apply the brakes, and the wheels slip, voila, ABS!
 
-=Chris


Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Bill Gilroy [wmgilroy at gmail.com]
Sent: 12/29/2007 11:34:01 PM
To: robertduquette at sympatico.ca
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Please define idiot... 

Maybe only ABS on the rear wheels? 

On 12/29/07, Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote: 
> 
> No ABS??? 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Bill Gilroy 
> Funniest one was a Subaru that almost 
> made it to the top of the hill. When he started to slide backwards he 
> hammered the brakes and locked the wheels. He slide backwards about
1/2 
> of 
> the way down the hill gaining speed all the way. He drifted to the
right 
> and bounced off the front of a stuck mini van and when over the curb,
and 
> about 30 feet down the side of the road into the trees. We all gave
him a 
> 10 expect for the Russian judge who gave in a 7.5. 
> 
> -g 
> _______________________________________________ 
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From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Sun Dec 30 02:16:09 2007
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 09:16:09 -0000
Subject: [Spridgets] NW Caravan? to 50th in Mo?
In-Reply-To: <069d01c84a96$9e797950$6401a8c0@actualshop>
Message-ID: <001201c84ac4$9e6984e0$0201a8c0@Laptop>

The white car in the photos is, I think, a 750cc
Cambridge bodied special. I can't be quite certain
of this but that is what it looks like to me. The
second car I ever owned was one and at that time
there were just 6 known to survive world wide.
There were only about 20 cars originally built
with that particular body.  And no, I didn't own
it from new!

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From:
spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.t
eam.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk
@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of shop at justbrits.com
Sent: 30 December 2007 03:47
To: Spridgets; bugeye at yahoogroups.com;
midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NW Caravan? to 50th in
Mo?


Jim Johnson wrote and I quote:

"Charlie's right about east OK and the Mother
Road... "

In regards to the Mother Road and for you folks
"worried" about the "Trip to
The Ozarks" please visit:

http://www.justbrits.com/cars/Austin7s.html

and "learn" just what "adventure" means!!!!  <VBG>

Keep in mind those cars are SMALLER than even
Frogeyes!!!!    Yikes!!  IIRC,
David Lieb (of spridgets at autox "fame") also saw
them and met the Brits!!

Awesome!!
Ed
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sun Dec 30 06:03:16 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 08:03:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
In-Reply-To: <02a801c84aa8$57ce7b10$116a010a@mail2world.com>
References: <02a801c84aa8$57ce7b10$116a010a@mail2world.com>
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That's good to know.  I'm old enough that I think that I would instinctively
back off the brakes if they were locked up, but it's good to know.  Now ...
how can I test that?  :)

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris King

ABS works on speed difference between the wheels.That's one reason why
it doesn't go off at a dead stop. Lock 'em up at 0mph, and then start to
slide, and it'll do you no good. But if you let go and start rolling,
and then apply the brakes, and the wheels slip, voila, ABS!
 
-=Chris
<-----Original Message----->
From: Bill Gilroy [wmgilroy at gmail.com]

Maybe only ABS on the rear wheels? 

On 12/29/07, Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote: 
> 
> No ABS??? 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Bill Gilroy 
> Funniest one was a Subaru that almost 
> made it to the top of the hill. When he started to slide backwards he 
> hammered the brakes and locked the wheels. He slide backwards about
1/2 
> of 
> the way down the hill gaining speed all the way. He drifted to the
right 
> and bounced off the front of a stuck mini van and when over the curb,
and 
> about 30 feet down the side of the road into the trees. We all gave
him a 
> 10 expect for the Russian judge who gave in a 7.5. 
> 
> -g 

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun Dec 30 08:04:54 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 09:04:54 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] NW Caravan? to 50th in Mo?
References: <001201c84ac4$9e6984e0$0201a8c0@Laptop>
Message-ID: <009c01c84af5$596a70d0$0401a8c0@midget>

> The white car in the photos is, I think, a 750cc
> Cambridge bodied special. I can't be quite certain
> of this but that is what it looks like to me. 

Yup, that is exactly what it is. 

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun Dec 30 08:07:54 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 09:07:54 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
References: <02a801c84aa8$57ce7b10$116a010a@mail2world.com>
	<BAYC1-PASMTP06EFFB0BBAC8FCF784ABD6B8570@CEZ.ICE>
Message-ID: <009e01c84af5$c12576c0$0401a8c0@midget>

> ABS works on speed difference between the wheels.That's one reason why
> it doesn't go off at a dead stop. Lock 'em up at 0mph, and then start to
> slide, and it'll do you no good. But if you let go and start rolling,
> and then apply the brakes, and the wheels slip, voila, ABS!

All well and good, Chris, but on ice where none of the four wheels has
any traction, ABS does ABSolutely no good at all. Likewise, having a
Subaru WRX STi with all the Torsens in the world does you no good
when you high-center it on a snowdift, but it certainly was highly 
entertaining for the rest of us to watch the Polish dude try to figure 
out why his "invincible" car was not moving ;-)
David Lieb

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sun Dec 30 08:56:16 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 10:56:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
In-Reply-To: <009e01c84af5$c12576c0$0401a8c0@midget>
References: <02a801c84aa8$57ce7b10$116a010a@mail2world.com><BAYC1-PASMTP06EFFB0BBAC8FCF784ABD6B8570@CEZ.ICE>
	<009e01c84af5$c12576c0$0401a8c0@midget>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP044D78B9E68FD3ACDBB167B8570@CEZ.ICE>

Cars don't drive themselves.  I drive an older Subaru ( 2001 ) and with
snows on ... it's the greatest car I've ever driven.  I'm not in the
financial league to buy the latest and greatest, but to me it's great.
Brake wise, I learned this fall that performance summer tires on the
"slippery as" snow aren't a good thing.  My understanding is that ABS does
not stop you faster, but allows you to keep some directional control.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Lieb

> ABS works on speed difference between the wheels.That's one reason why
> it doesn't go off at a dead stop. Lock 'em up at 0mph, and then start to
> slide, and it'll do you no good. But if you let go and start rolling,
> and then apply the brakes, and the wheels slip, voila, ABS!

All well and good, Chris, but on ice where none of the four wheels has
any traction, ABS does ABSolutely no good at all. Likewise, having a
Subaru WRX STi with all the Torsens in the world does you no good
when you high-center it on a snowdift, but it certainly was highly 
entertaining for the rest of us to watch the Polish dude try to figure 
out why his "invincible" car was not moving ;-)
David Lieb

From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 30 09:25:18 2007
From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 08:25:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Miata Question with LBC Content
Message-ID: <455002.66258.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I picked up a set of Miata Seats from a '91 on Saturday to go in Bugsy my '68 Sprite. Great shape, black cloth, $150 after some bargaining, a little cleaning needed, all that stuff. My question is this for any of you Miata Owners. There is a 2 pair wiring harness that connects both seats together. I figure it could be for either Seat Belt not Connected Reminder Lamp or possibly Seat Heater but I'm guessing the former. Anyone who owns one of these early Miata's got a clue? Before I just cut the cable short if this is a seatback heater..... And no I do not want to change to an alternator yet to support a seatback heater. But could be convinced. My money is on seatbelt reminder lamp.

Jim Gruber
Bugsy '68 Sprite (future Bugeye in disguise)
Cincinnati, OH
       
---------------------------------
Looking for last minute shopping deals?  Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

From thefirebuilds at gmail.com  Sun Dec 30 09:34:30 2007
From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 10:34:30 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Miata Question with LBC Content
In-Reply-To: <455002.66258.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <455002.66258.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8a336b9d0712300834l32027526t45c1ef6fc832a536@mail.gmail.com>

Do they have headrest speakers?  I don't recall a seatbelt warning lamp on
the miata, but I know they all have that pair of wires under the seat.

On Dec 30, 2007 10:25 AM, James Gruber <thistle_3619 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I picked up a set of Miata Seats from a '91 on Saturday to go in Bugsy my
> '68 Sprite. Great shape, black cloth, $150 after some bargaining, a little
> cleaning needed, all that stuff. My question is this for any of you Miata
> Owners. There is a 2 pair wiring harness that connects both seats together.
> I figure it could be for either Seat Belt not Connected Reminder Lamp or
> possibly Seat Heater but I'm guessing the former. Anyone who owns one of
> these early Miata's got a clue? Before I just cut the cable short if this is
> a seatback heater..... And no I do not want to change to an alternator yet
> to support a seatback heater. But could be convinced. My money is on
> seatbelt reminder lamp.
>
> Jim Gruber
> Bugsy '68 Sprite (future Bugeye in disguise)
> Cincinnati, OH
>
> ---------------------------------
> Looking for last minute shopping deals?  Find them fast with Yahoo!
> Search.
> _______________________________________________
>



-- 
"Well you are the one, the one that lies close to me
Whisper's "Hello, I've missed you quite terribly"
I fell in love, in love with you suddenly
Now there's no place else I could be but here in your arms" - Hellogoodbye

From bpazur at excel.net  Sun Dec 30 10:16:04 2007
From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 11:16:04 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...(some LBC content)
References: <02a801c84aa8$57ce7b10$116a010a@mail2world.com><BAYC1-PASMTP06EFFB0BBAC8FCF784ABD6B8570@CEZ.ICE><009e01c84af5$c12576c0$0401a8c0@midget>
	<BAYC1-PASMTP044D78B9E68FD3ACDBB167B8570@CEZ.ICE>
Message-ID: <000b01c84b07$a9344b10$0ce867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH>

I drive a 2002 Subaru WRX. Its ABS brakes saved my ass when an older
gentleman drove his big sedan clean thru a stop sign at a country
intersection I was approaching. It was a defining moment, the reason I put a
street roll bar on my Bugeye. I agree about directional control - the
culverts around here are pretty deep, and the ABS probably kept me out of
the culvert. But the road was dry. But on snow, my two AWD Subarus are also
great.

Bud Pazur


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Duquette" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
To: "'Spridgets'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...


> Cars don't drive themselves.  I drive an older Subaru ( 2001 ) and with
> snows on ... it's the greatest car I've ever driven.  I'm not in the
> financial league to buy the latest and greatest, but to me it's great.
> Brake wise, I learned this fall that performance summer tires on the
> "slippery as" snow aren't a good thing.  My understanding is that ABS does
> not stop you faster, but allows you to keep some directional control.

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Sun Dec 30 09:55:51 2007
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 11:55:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
In-Reply-To: <BAYC1-PASMTP044D78B9E68FD3ACDBB167B8570@CEZ.ICE>
References: <02a801c84aa8$57ce7b10$116a010a@mail2world.com><BAYC1-PASMTP06EFFB0BBAC8FCF784ABD6B8570@CEZ.ICE>
	<009e01c84af5$c12576c0$0401a8c0@midget>
	<BAYC1-PASMTP044D78B9E68FD3ACDBB167B8570@CEZ.ICE>
Message-ID: <3DA26660-A6DD-4AFF-B847-872839F383CA@phillymgclub.com>

In fact, ABS equipped cars tend to have longer stopping distance on  
dry pavement. Not sure about ice, never owned a car that had it.

It's only function, AFAIK, is directional control and control in a  
panic stop. It serves no other function, it certainly is not about  
stopping shorter.

Larry

On Dec 30, 2007, at 10:56 AM, Robert Duquette wrote:

> Cars don't drive themselves.  I drive an older Subaru ( 2001 ) and  
> with
> snows on ... it's the greatest car I've ever driven.  I'm not in the
> financial league to buy the latest and greatest, but to me it's great.
> Brake wise, I learned this fall that performance summer tires on the
> "slippery as" snow aren't a good thing.  My understanding is that  
> ABS does
> not stop you faster, but allows you to keep some directional control.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Lieb
>
>> ABS works on speed difference between the wheels.That's one reason  
>> why
>> it doesn't go off at a dead stop. Lock 'em up at 0mph, and then  
>> start to
>> slide, and it'll do you no good. But if you let go and start rolling,
>> and then apply the brakes, and the wheels slip, voila, ABS!
>
> All well and good, Chris, but on ice where none of the four wheels has
> any traction, ABS does ABSolutely no good at all. Likewise, having a
> Subaru WRX STi with all the Torsens in the world does you no good
> when you high-center it on a snowdift, but it certainly was highly
> entertaining for the rest of us to watch the Polish dude try to figure
> out why his "invincible" car was not moving ;-)
> David Lieb
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From Daniel1312 at aol.com  Sun Dec 30 10:17:02 2007
From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 12:17:02 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
Message-ID: <d5d.1699fbc0.34a92c8e@aol.com>

Not quite true it simply means you hit something without having the wheels  
locked up rather than hitting something with wheels locked up.
 
As an aside in deep snow cars without ABS stop quicker than cars with ABS  
because the locked wheel builds up a wedge of snow in front of the wheel which  
helps to slow the car down, while the car with ABS rides on top of the  snow.
 
Daniel1312
 
In a message dated 30/12/2007 15:08:51 GMT Standard Time,  
dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes:

All well  and good, Chris, but on ice where none of the four wheels has
any traction,  ABS does ABSolutely no good at all.

From stargazer1 at cox.net  Sun Dec 30 10:25:14 2007
From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 09:25:14 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Miata Question with LBC Content
In-Reply-To: <455002.66258.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <455002.66258.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4777D47A.5040407@cox.net>

James Gruber wrote:

>I picked up a set of Miata Seats from a '91 on Saturday to go in Bugsy my '68 Sprite. Great shape, black cloth, $150 after some bargaining, a little cleaning needed, all that stuff. My question is this for any of you Miata Owners. There is a 2 pair wiring harness that connects both seats together. I figure it could be for either Seat Belt not Connected Reminder Lamp or possibly Seat Heater but I'm guessing the former. Anyone who owns one of these early Miata's got a clue? Before I just cut the cable short if this is a seatback heater..... And no I do not want to change to an alternator yet to support a seatback heater. But could be convinced. My money is on seatbelt reminder lamp.
>  
>
Each seat should have two speakers in the headrest.  Wire those to the 
rear speaker output of your stereo and be happy.

Cheers,
Dave Ambrose

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Sun Dec 30 10:31:58 2007
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 11:31:58 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Miata Question with LBC Content
Message-ID: <8988640.333021199035918882.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web27-z01>

did ithe Miata originally have an airbag?  '91 might be too early for one, but usually there is a sensor in the seat for those as well.

Chris 
---- "Flash." <thefirebuilds at gmail.com> wrote: 
> Do they have headrest speakers?  I don't recall a seatbelt warning lamp on
> the miata, but I know they all have that pair of wires under the seat.
> 
> On Dec 30, 2007 10:25 AM, James Gruber <thistle_3619 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > I picked up a set of Miata Seats from a '91 on Saturday to go in Bugsy my
> > '68 Sprite. Great shape, black cloth, $150 after some bargaining, a little
> > cleaning needed, all that stuff. My question is this for any of you Miata
> > Owners. There is a 2 pair wiring harness that connects both seats together.
> > I figure it could be for either Seat Belt not Connected Reminder Lamp or
> > possibly Seat Heater but I'm guessing the former. Anyone who owns one of
> > these early Miata's got a clue? Before I just cut the cable short if this is
> > a seatback heater..... And no I do not want to change to an alternator yet
> > to support a seatback heater. But could be convinced. My money is on
> > seatbelt reminder lamp.
> >
> > Jim Gruber
> > Bugsy '68 Sprite (future Bugeye in disguise)
> > Cincinnati, OH
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Looking for last minute shopping deals?  Find them fast with Yahoo!
> > Search.
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> "Well you are the one, the one that lies close to me
> Whisper's "Hello, I've missed you quite terribly"
> I fell in love, in love with you suddenly
> Now there's no place else I could be but here in your arms" - Hellogoodbye
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From thefirebuilds at gmail.com  Sun Dec 30 10:36:43 2007
From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 11:36:43 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Miata Question with LBC Content
In-Reply-To: <8988640.333021199035918882.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web27-z01>
References: <8988640.333021199035918882.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web27-z01>
Message-ID: <8a336b9d0712300936p5008a061ub7dbc15de9fbc9fd@mail.gmail.com>

89-93 had a single airbag in the steering wheel, 94-04 added the passenger
side airbags, 05+ has a whole bunch of other crap.  My guess is the wiring
has to do with either the primary or SRS, or possibly is involved in wiring
for the headrest speakers.  I think despite not all seats having headrest
speakers, all were wired for it.

The headrest speakers, in addition to two small 3.5" speakers in the
headrest havea  6-7" subwoofer in the back of the seat that is bolted to a
metal tube to increase vibration.

Most leather seats have a zipper on them, but not all actually had the
speakers in them.

On Dec 30, 2007 11:31 AM, <cmanuel at wi.rr.com> wrote:

> did ithe Miata originally have an airbag?  '91 might be too early for one,
> but usually there is a sensor in the seat for those as well.
>
> Chris
> ---- "Flash." <thefirebuilds at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Do they have headrest speakers?  I don't recall a seatbelt warning lamp
> on
> > the miata, but I know they all have that pair of wires under the seat.
> >
> > On Dec 30, 2007 10:25 AM, James Gruber <thistle_3619 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I picked up a set of Miata Seats from a '91 on Saturday to go in Bugsy
> my
> > > '68 Sprite. Great shape, black cloth, $150 after some bargaining, a
> little
> > > cleaning needed, all that stuff. My question is this for any of you
> Miata
> > > Owners. There is a 2 pair wiring harness that connects both seats
> together.
> > > I figure it could be for either Seat Belt not Connected Reminder Lamp
> or
> > > possibly Seat Heater but I'm guessing the former. Anyone who owns one
> of
> > > these early Miata's got a clue? Before I just cut the cable short if
> this is
> > > a seatback heater..... And no I do not want to change to an alternator
> yet
> > > to support a seatback heater. But could be convinced. My money is on
> > > seatbelt reminder lamp.
> > >
> > > Jim Gruber
> > > Bugsy '68 Sprite (future Bugeye in disguise)
> > > Cincinnati, OH
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > Looking for last minute shopping deals?  Find them fast with Yahoo!
> > > Search.
> > > _______________________________________________
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > "Well you are the one, the one that lies close to me
> > Whisper's "Hello, I've missed you quite terribly"
> > I fell in love, in love with you suddenly
> > Now there's no place else I could be but here in your arms" -
> Hellogoodbye
>
>
>



-- 
"Well you are the one, the one that lies close to me
Whisper's "Hello, I've missed you quite terribly"
I fell in love, in love with you suddenly
Now there's no place else I could be but here in your arms" - Hellogoodbye

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sun Dec 30 10:58:37 2007
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 11:58:37 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] ABS was Please define idiot...
In-Reply-To: <d5d.1699fbc0.34a92c8e@aol.com>
References: <d5d.1699fbc0.34a92c8e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <6285FA6C-0865-4CA9-8C83-C31E53C1FBF8@comcast.net>

.. and where are you guys getting data about ABS?  I would like to  
read up on what you are saying..

Lester


On Dec 30, 2007, at 11:17 AM, Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote:

> Not quite true it simply means you hit something without having the  
> wheels
> locked up rather than hitting something with wheels locked up.
>
> As an aside in deep snow cars without ABS stop quicker than cars  
> with ABS
> because the locked wheel builds up a wedge of snow in front of the  
> wheel which
> helps to slow the car down, while the car with ABS rides on top of  
> the  snow.
>
> Daniel1312
>
> In a message dated 30/12/2007 15:08:51 GMT Standard Time,
> dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes:
>
> All well  and good, Chris, but on ice where none of the four wheels  
> has
> any traction,  ABS does ABSolutely no good at all.
> _______________________________________________

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sun Dec 30 11:06:48 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 13:06:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ABS was Please define idiot...
In-Reply-To: <6285FA6C-0865-4CA9-8C83-C31E53C1FBF8@comcast.net>
References: <d5d.1699fbc0.34a92c8e@aol.com>
	<6285FA6C-0865-4CA9-8C83-C31E53C1FBF8@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP12E3AE0A84B12C9293774DB8570@CEZ.ICE>

Here's one site:
http://www.tc.gc.ca/roadsafety/tp/tp13082/abs2_e.htm#stop

This is the main page to that site:
http://www.tc.gc.ca/roadsafety/tp/tp13082/absind_e.htm


-----Original Message-----
From: Lester

.. and where are you guys getting data about ABS?  I would like to  
read up on what you are saying..

Lester


On Dec 30, 2007, at 11:17 AM, Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote:

> Not quite true it simply means you hit something without having the  
> wheels
> locked up rather than hitting something with wheels locked up.
>
> As an aside in deep snow cars without ABS stop quicker than cars  
> with ABS
> because the locked wheel builds up a wedge of snow in front of the  
> wheel which
> helps to slow the car down, while the car with ABS rides on top of  
> the  snow.
>
> Daniel1312
>
> In a message dated 30/12/2007 15:08:51 GMT Standard Time,
> dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes:
>
> All well  and good, Chris, but on ice where none of the four wheels  
> has
> any traction,  ABS does ABSolutely no good at all.

From james.f.juhas at snet.net  Sun Dec 30 11:22:00 2007
From: james.f.juhas at snet.net (Jim Juhas)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 13:22:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Miata Question with LBC Content
Message-ID: <20071230182307.8C888187B09@autox.team.net>

Not all Miata seats had speakers in the headrests.  I had a '91 without speakers but with a warning light and presently have a 2002 that's the same.

-----Original Message-----

From:  David Ambrose <stargazer1 at cox.net>
Subj:  Re: [Spridgets] Miata Question with LBC Content
Date:  Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:25 pm
Size:  1K
To:  James Gruber <thistle_3619 at yahoo.com>
cc:  Spridgets Digest <spridgets at autox.team.net>

James Gruber wrote:

>I picked up a set of Miata Seats from a '91 on Saturday to go in Bugsy my '68 Sprite. Great shape, black cloth, $150 after some bargaining, a little cleaning needed, all that stuff. My question is this for any of you Miata Owners. There is a 2 pair wiring harness that connects both seats together. I figure it could be for either Seat Belt not Connected Reminder Lamp or possibly Seat Heater but I'm guessing the former. Anyone who owns one of these early Miata's got a clue? Before I just cut the cable short if this is a seatback heater..... And no I do not want to change to an alternator yet to support a seatback heater. But could be convinced. My money is on seatbelt reminder lamp.
>  
>
Each seat should have two speakers in the headrest.  Wire those to the 
rear speaker output of your stereo and be happy.

Cheers,
Dave Ambrose
_

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sun Dec 30 11:28:58 2007
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 12:28:58 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] ABS was Please define idiot...
In-Reply-To: <BAYC1-PASMTP12E3AE0A84B12C9293774DB8570@CEZ.ICE>
References: <d5d.1699fbc0.34a92c8e@aol.com>
	<6285FA6C-0865-4CA9-8C83-C31E53C1FBF8@comcast.net>
	<BAYC1-PASMTP12E3AE0A84B12C9293774DB8570@CEZ.ICE>
Message-ID: <B6FD42E4-9722-47D7-8B22-67780BD755CB@comcast.net>

Ok, but the article says that braking on dry or wet roads is about the  
same as with regular brakes  not worse, and it says what is stated  
below about snowplowing..

Lester
On Dec 30, 2007, at 12:06 PM, Robert Duquette wrote:

> Here's one site:
> http://www.tc.gc.ca/roadsafety/tp/tp13082/abs2_e.htm#stop
>
> This is the main page to that site:
> http://www.tc.gc.ca/roadsafety/tp/tp13082/absind_e.htm
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lester
>
> .. and where are you guys getting data about ABS?  I would like to
> read up on what you are saying..
>
> Lester
>
>
> On Dec 30, 2007, at 11:17 AM, Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote:
>>
>> As an aside in deep snow cars without ABS stop quicker than cars
>> with ABS
>> because the locked wheel builds up a wedge of snow in front of the
>> wheel which
>> helps to slow the car down, while the car with ABS rides on top of
>> the  snow.
>>
>> Daniel1312

From james.f.juhas at snet.net  Sun Dec 30 11:31:00 2007
From: james.f.juhas at snet.net (Jim Juhas)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 13:31:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
Message-ID: <20071230183244.61C5E187B8B@autox.team.net>

Instead of spending money on the optional ABS over the past several years, I instead was treated to driving school w/ Skip Barber at LRP.  But I knew the day would come when tech would catch up to me.  My new F250 has ABS.  I think it's standard now.  No need to test it yet. 

-----Original Message-----

From:  Larry Macy <lmacy at phillymgclub.com>
Subj:  Re: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
Date:  Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:59 am
Size:  1K
To:  Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
cc:  "'Spridgets'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>

In fact, ABS equipped cars tend to have longer stopping distance on  
dry pavement. Not sure about ice, never owned a car that had it.

It's only function, AFAIK, is directional control and control in a  
panic stop. It serves no other function, it certainly is not about  
stopping shorter.

Larry

On Dec 30, 2007, at 10:56 AM, Robert Duquette wrote:

> Cars don't drive themselves.  I drive an older Subaru ( 2001 ) and  
> with
> snows on ... it's the greatest car I've ever driven.  I'm not in the
> financial league to buy the latest and greatest, but to me it's great.
> Brake wise, I learned this fall that performance summer tires on the
> "slippery as" snow aren't a good thing.  My understanding is that  
> ABS does
> not stop you faster, but allows you to keep some directional control.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Lieb
>
>> ABS works on speed difference between the wheels.That's one reason  
>> why
>> it doesn't go off at a dead stop. Lock 'em up at 0mph, and then  
>> start to
>> slide, and it'll do you no good. But if you let go and start rolling,
>> and then apply the brakes, and the wheels slip, voila, ABS!
>
> All well and good, Chris, but on ice where none of the four wheels has
> any traction, ABS does ABSolutely no good at all. Likewise, having a
> Subaru WRX STi with all the Torsens in the world does you no good
> when you high-center it on a snowdift, but it certainly was highly
> entertaining for the rest of us to watch the Polish dude try to figure
> out why his "invincible" car was not moving ;-)
> David Lieb
> _

From james.f.juhas at snet.net  Sun Dec 30 11:36:00 2007
From: james.f.juhas at snet.net (Jim Juhas)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 13:36:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Miata Question with LBC Content
Message-ID: <20071230183729.0DC77187BF5@autox.team.net>

My '91 had an air bag, at least on the  driver's side.  I didn't have it long enough to know more. 

-----Original Message-----

From:  <cmanuel at wi.rr.com>
Subj:  Re: [Spridgets] Miata Question with LBC Content
Date:  Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:32 pm
Size:  1K
To:  Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>

did ithe Miata originally have an airbag?  '91 might be too early for one, but usually there is a sensor in the seat for those as well.

Chris 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sun Dec 30 11:41:05 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 13:41:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ABS was Please define idiot...
In-Reply-To: <B6FD42E4-9722-47D7-8B22-67780BD755CB@comcast.net>
References: <d5d.1699fbc0.34a92c8e@aol.com><6285FA6C-0865-4CA9-8C83-C31E53C1FBF8@comcast.net><BAYC1-PASMTP12E3AE0A84B12C9293774DB8570@CEZ.ICE>
	<B6FD42E4-9722-47D7-8B22-67780BD755CB@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP045326F1141FEFA55871D2B8570@CEZ.ICE>

Yeah, but all "I" had said about ABS is that you retain some directional
control with them as opposed to locking the wheels.

I guess that is covered here:
http://www.tc.gc.ca/roadsafety/tp/tp13082/abs1_e.htm#Why
which is why I gave the main index page.  I haven't read the whole thing yet
...


-----Original Message-----
From: Lester

Ok, but the article says that braking on dry or wet roads is about the  
same as with regular brakes  not worse, and it says what is stated  
below about snowplowing..

Lester
On Dec 30, 2007, at 12:06 PM, Robert Duquette wrote:

> Here's one site:
> http://www.tc.gc.ca/roadsafety/tp/tp13082/abs2_e.htm#stop
>
> This is the main page to that site:
> http://www.tc.gc.ca/roadsafety/tp/tp13082/absind_e.htm
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lester
>
> .. and where are you guys getting data about ABS?  I would like to
> read up on what you are saying..
>
> Lester
>
>
> On Dec 30, 2007, at 11:17 AM, Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote:
>>
>> As an aside in deep snow cars without ABS stop quicker than cars
>> with ABS
>> because the locked wheel builds up a wedge of snow in front of the
>> wheel which
>> helps to slow the car down, while the car with ABS rides on top of
>> the  snow.
>>
>> Daniel1312

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sun Dec 30 12:01:02 2007
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 13:01:02 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
In-Reply-To: <20071230183244.61C5E187B8B@autox.team.net>
References: <20071230183244.61C5E187B8B@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <281FEB71-90CA-43B5-82C6-A25B4A04F364@comcast.net>

Yup, me as well.. and that park in SC..  I hated the skid pad.  I  
spend all my driving skill trying to prevent a skid and he tells me to  
go into one..

Lester

On Dec 30, 2007, at 12:31 PM, Jim Juhas wrote:

> Instead of spending money on the optional ABS over the past several  
> years, I instead was treated to driving school w/ Skip Barber at  
> LRP.  But I knew the day would come when tech would catch up to me.   
> My new F250 has ABS.  I think it's standard now.  No need to test it  
> yet.
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From:  Larry Macy <lmacy at phillymgclub.com>
> Subj:  Re: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
> Date:  Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:59 am
> Size:  1K
> To:  Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
> cc:  "'Spridgets'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>
> In fact, ABS equipped cars tend to have longer stopping distance on
> dry pavement. Not sure about ice, never owned a car that had it.
>
> It's only function, AFAIK, is directional control and control in a
> panic stop. It serves no other function, it certainly is not about
> stopping shorter.
>
> Larry
>
> On Dec 30, 2007, at 10:56 AM, Robert Duquette wrote:
>
>> Cars don't drive themselves.  I drive an older Subaru ( 2001 ) and
>> with
>> snows on ... it's the greatest car I've ever driven.  I'm not in the
>> financial league to buy the latest and greatest, but to me it's  
>> great.
>> Brake wise, I learned this fall that performance summer tires on the
>> "slippery as" snow aren't a good thing.  My understanding is that
>> ABS does
>> not stop you faster, but allows you to keep some directional control.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Lieb
>>
>>> ABS works on speed difference between the wheels.That's one reason
>>> why
>>> it doesn't go off at a dead stop. Lock 'em up at 0mph, and then
>>> start to
>>> slide, and it'll do you no good. But if you let go and start  
>>> rolling,
>>> and then apply the brakes, and the wheels slip, voila, ABS!
>>
>> All well and good, Chris, but on ice where none of the four wheels  
>> has
>> any traction, ABS does ABSolutely no good at all. Likewise, having a
>> Subaru WRX STi with all the Torsens in the world does you no good
>> when you high-center it on a snowdift, but it certainly was highly
>> entertaining for the rest of us to watch the Polish dude try to  
>> figure
>> out why his "invincible" car was not moving ;-)
>> David Lieb
>> _
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From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 30 12:04:36 2007
From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 11:04:36 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Miata Question with LBC Content
Message-ID: <624575.48743.qm@web34211.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks Dave,
   
  Found the hidden zipper. There are speakers under there. Thanks everyone for the response.
   
  

Jim Juhas <james.f.juhas at snet.net> wrote:
  Not all Miata seats had speakers in the headrests. I had a '91 without speakers but with a warning light and presently have a 2002 that's the same.

-----Original Message-----

From: David Ambrose 
Subj: Re: [Spridgets] Miata Question with LBC Content
Date: Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:25 pm
Size: 1K
To: James Gruber 
cc: Spridgets Digest 

James Gruber wrote:

>I picked up a set of Miata Seats from a '91 on Saturday to go in Bugsy my '68 Sprite. Great shape, black cloth, $150 after some bargaining, a little cleaning needed, all that stuff. My question is this for any of you Miata Owners. There is a 2 pair wiring harness that connects both seats together. I figure it could be for either Seat Belt not Connected Reminder Lamp or possibly Seat Heater but I'm guessing the former. Anyone who owns one of these early Miata's got a clue? Before I just cut the cable short if this is a seatback heater..... And no I do not want to change to an alternator yet to support a seatback heater. But could be convinced. My money is on seatbelt reminder lamp.
> 
>
Each seat should have two speakers in the headrest. Wire those to the 
rear speaker output of your stereo and be happy.

Cheers,
Dave Ambrose
_



       
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From Daniel1312 at aol.com  Sun Dec 30 12:16:00 2007
From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 14:16:00 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] ABS was Please define idiot...
Message-ID: <c89.1f0af39f.34a94870@aol.com>

Never believe what you read in an article - it may not necessarily be  
accurate.
 
Sometimes an article will have a bias towards an advertiser.  
 
Course if you ever read that a W e s l a k e rocker cover is the best, take  
it from that me that it's a fact.
 
I once really upset the apple cart and Bosch, who ran a magazine feature  and 
competition about ABS.  One question was when did Bosch invent anti  lock 
braking - my response was that they didn't.  I think it was Dunlop  with the 
maxaret system, first developed for aircraft that invented anti-lock  braking and 
it first appeared on the Jensen Interceptor (not all models?).   Boy were they 
Pi**** about that.  I don' think they ever announced a winner  for the 
competition.
 
Daniel1312
 
 
In a message dated 30/12/2007 18:31:46 GMT Standard Time,  
oldsaabguy at comcast.net writes:

Ok, but  the article says that braking on dry or wet roads is about the  
same  as with regular brakes  not worse, and it says what is stated   
below about snowplowing..

Lester

From abcoz at hky.com  Sun Dec 30 14:52:09 2007
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 16:52:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] primers....thinking out loud
Message-ID: <001f01c84b2e$3a59c680$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Getting ready to start painting my '73 Midget restoration project.  The
first step will be the undercarriage, which has been "mechanically"
stripped (about 95% of OE undersealant has been removed).  Inner & outer
sills, lower door posts, and left rear fender are new, and I've gone to
great pains to duplicate the original seams between door posts & sills
and rear fender & sill.  New panels were sand-blasted, and POR-15
coated, with 3M Weld-Thru Primer applied over bare (blasted) metal in
all weld seam areas.  Of course, there will be some areas, around the
welds, where all paint is burned away.  In order to avoid any chance of
surface contamination prior to painting, I'll address those with Waxoyl
after ALL painting is finished.
Now, on to my question.  I stopped by my local autobody shop supply
house and picked up some PPG epoxy primer.  While reading the
instruction data sheet, I was disappointed to read that PPG calls for a
"soap & water wash".  Since I can't bake the car dry, there's NO WAY I'm
gonna apply any water to that Midget.  So, I've decided to switch back
to a Dupont system, and start with Variprime, a self-etching primer
which doesn't require any sort of water washing preparation......just a
good wipe-down with 3919S.
Of course, top/"shiny" surfaces will get an application of
primer-surfacer, before the base coat-clear coat acrylic lacquer top
coat (underside gets 3M Body Shutz, then paint).
Can you think of anything I haven't thought of, here?  It's been 17
years since I've painted a car, and I'm trying to avoid any blatantly
stupid mistakes......the less blatant stuff, I'll muddle through,
somehow ;)
Thanks.
Bud Osbourne

From millerls at ado13.com  Sun Dec 30 14:00:46 2007
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 13:00:46 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Miata Question with LBC Content
References: <455002.66258.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00a701c84b27$0d2eae70$53997e4c@HP>

Wires are for the speaker. First side airbag in the seat was the 2006.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Gruber" <thistle_3619 at yahoo.com>
To: "Spridgets Digest" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 8:25 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Miata Question with LBC Content


>I picked up a set of Miata Seats from a '91 on Saturday to go in Bugsy my 
>'68 Sprite. Great shape, black cloth, $150 after some bargaining, a little 
>cleaning needed, all that stuff. My question is this for any of you Miata 
>Owners. There is a 2 pair wiring harness that connects both seats together. 
>I figure it could be for either Seat Belt not Connected Reminder Lamp or 
>possibly Seat Heater but I'm guessing the former. Anyone who owns one of 
>these early Miata's got a clue? Before I just cut the cable short if this 
>is a seatback heater..... And no I do not want to change to an alternator 
>yet to support a seatback heater. But could be convinced. My money is on 
>seatbelt reminder lamp.
>
> Jim Gruber
> Bugsy '68 Sprite (future Bugeye in disguise)
> Cincinnati, OH
>
> ---------------------------------

From millerls at ado13.com  Sun Dec 30 14:00:46 2007
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 13:00:46 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Miata Question with LBC Content
References: <455002.66258.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00a701c84b27$0d2eae70$53997e4c@HP>

Wires are for the speaker. First side airbag in the seat was the 2006.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Gruber" <thistle_3619 at yahoo.com>
To: "Spridgets Digest" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 8:25 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Miata Question with LBC Content


>I picked up a set of Miata Seats from a '91 on Saturday to go in Bugsy my 
>'68 Sprite. Great shape, black cloth, $150 after some bargaining, a little 
>cleaning needed, all that stuff. My question is this for any of you Miata 
>Owners. There is a 2 pair wiring harness that connects both seats together. 
>I figure it could be for either Seat Belt not Connected Reminder Lamp or 
>possibly Seat Heater but I'm guessing the former. Anyone who owns one of 
>these early Miata's got a clue? Before I just cut the cable short if this 
>is a seatback heater..... And no I do not want to change to an alternator 
>yet to support a seatback heater. But could be convinced. My money is on 
>seatbelt reminder lamp.
>
> Jim Gruber
> Bugsy '68 Sprite (future Bugeye in disguise)
> Cincinnati, OH
>
> ---------------------------------

From james.f.juhas at snet.net  Sun Dec 30 14:22:00 2007
From: james.f.juhas at snet.net (Jim Juhas)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 16:22:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
Message-ID: <20071230212406.67E1F187AAF@autox.team.net>

The skid skills have helped now that I started racing my MGA.  Old school techniques in VSCCA with vintage cars. tires & brakes.

-----Original Message-----

From:  Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
Subj:  Re: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
Date:  Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:10 pm
Size:  1K
To:  
cc:  Spridgets List <spridgets at autox.team.net>

Yup, me as well.. and that park in SC..  I hated the skid pad.  I  
spend all my driving skill trying to prevent a skid and he tells me to  
go into one..

Lester

On Dec 30, 2007, at 12:31 PM, Jim Juhas wrote:

> Instead of spending money on the optional ABS over the past several  
> years, I instead was treated to driving school w/ Skip Barber at  
> LRP.  But I knew the day would come when tech would catch up to me.   
> My new F250 has ABS.  I think it's standard now.  No need to test it  
> yet.

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Dec 30 15:09:12 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 17:09:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] primers....thinking out loud
In-Reply-To: <001f01c84b2e$3a59c680$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
References: <001f01c84b2e$3a59c680$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
Message-ID: <47781708.8020600@comcast.net>

The soap and water wash is to clean the dust off the car.
You can use final prep or wax/grease remover instead.
Also watch the etching primers, they do not like body filler over 
etching primers. Or so the label says.
I etch, epoxy, then surface/filler prime.
Also give long hard thoughts to a base/clear paint job.
Touch ups are near impossible or very time consuming.
My son was a base/clear man for a few years but WHEN, not IF the base 
clear got a chip or scratch, the touch up was worse than the damage.
Now he, like me, use the single stage urethane paint.
Need a scratch or chip touched up, just do it and wet sand the spot the 
next day, you never see it.
But, I am just thinking out loud Bud, just letting you know what I have 
learned about base/clears. I wish my Jag was never clear coated because 
now 4 years old, there are chips in the clear and it's just not possible 
to touch it up and make it look good.
Just think, the car is all painted and shiny and during assembly you 
slip with a screw driver or wrench and chip the paint where the mirror 
goes on the door. Gawd I hate it when I do that! Good thing it was 
single stage.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Dec 30 16:18:47 2007
From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 17:18:47 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] primers....thinking out loud
References: <001f01c84b2e$3a59c680$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
Message-ID: <032b01c84b3a$54dff950$6401a8c0@actualshop>

Bud:

I agree TOTALLY with Frank!!!  Single stage also looks closer to org. than the
"shiny" 2 stage.

Besides, it's cheaper!! LOL

Ed

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Sun Dec 30 17:35:27 2007
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 18:35:27 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] primers....thinking out loud
References: <001f01c84b2e$3a59c680$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
	<47781708.8020600@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <000d01c84b45$0a581330$6401a8c0@personal>

My body guy, and Tonys, says no prob with touching up clear coat. We will 
see.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>
To: "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz at hky.com>
Cc: "Spridgets at Autox. Team. Net" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] primers....thinking out loud


> The soap and water wash is to clean the dust off the car.
> You can use final prep or wax/grease remover instead.
> Also watch the etching primers, they do not like body filler over
> etching primers. Or so the label says.
> I etch, epoxy, then surface/filler prime.
> Also give long hard thoughts to a base/clear paint job.
> Touch ups are near impossible or very time consuming.
> My son was a base/clear man for a few years but WHEN, not IF the base
> clear got a chip or scratch, the touch up was worse than the damage.
> Now he, like me, use the single stage urethane paint.
> Need a scratch or chip touched up, just do it and wet sand the spot the
> next day, you never see it.
> But, I am just thinking out loud Bud, just letting you know what I have
> learned about base/clears. I wish my Jag was never clear coated because
> now 4 years old, there are chips in the clear and it's just not possible
> to touch it up and make it look good.
> Just think, the car is all painted and shiny and during assembly you
> slip with a screw driver or wrench and chip the paint where the mirror
> goes on the door. Gawd I hate it when I do that! Good thing it was
> single stage.
>
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
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From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sun Dec 30 19:11:19 2007
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 02:11:19 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...(some LBC content)
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV87F8C535F0690DAF712E0C8500@phx.gbl>

You're not the only one who swears by his
WRX when it comes to safety.

My old boss at the autoparts store I used to work at between flying jobs many moons ago has a WRX. The car is not only
superfast, the handling/braking is absolutley phenomenal...nice to have for icy/snowy conditions (driven reasonably for conditions, of course!:).

It really is a helluva machine/value for the buck.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sun Dec 30 20:12:46 2007
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 21:12:46 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Miata Question with LBC Content
In-Reply-To: <624575.48743.qm@web34211.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <624575.48743.qm@web34211.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910712301912q4dabfbb3u33d91254ed938720@mail.gmail.com>

Get some high pass filter caps and put them in line with those
headrest speakers.  Headrest speakers are great, but they don't sound
too good without high pass filtering.

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Sun Dec 30 21:57:26 2007
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 20:57:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] EFI progress
Message-ID: <200712310457.lBV4vQ0r013557@diometes.ucdavis.edu>

I've come a  long way with the EFI tuning.  The wideband O2 
sensor allows the Autotune function to dial in the car pretty fast.
The timing table is set up as well as a table of target
air/fuel ratios.  This allows me to operate at, say, 12;1 AFR and
22deg. BTDC when at 10lbs boost, and 16;1 AFR at 49deg. BTDC when 
cruising.
The plugs look great and each morning's cold start is better dialed
in than the day before. The motor is running so well that I've had
to cover half the radiator to get up to the 160deg needed to trigger 
Autotune.  Well, part good tune and part bloody cold weather!!!

I finished a new center console to hold two speakers, fuel pressure 
gauge, AFR gauge and power tap for the GPS and/or G-tech.

I mounted the old fiberglass hardtop and cleaned it up.  It sure
makes these winter tuning rides more bearable.

I posted shots of the new console and hardtop on my homepage:
http://home.comcast.net/~byrns.family/wsb/html/view.cgi-photos.html-.html

This is one hell of an education on engine management and its turning
out to be really fun.

Glen Byrns

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sun Dec 30 22:13:09 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:13:09 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Spam Filters
References: <88495.19760.qm@web51609.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<036301c849c6$245c9a60$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <066501c84b6b$d5f70a20$6401a8c0@Larry>

It has been 2 days now and I have had no further problem with the spam 
filter taking out the autox.team.net emails.

That must be the cure.

LAD


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Bob Van Kirk" <racerbob70 at yahoo.com>; "Spridgets List" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spam Filters


I just went into my spam filter and had it take all messages with [Spridget]
in the subject and move them to the inbox.  Time will tell how well it
works.

Larry


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Van Kirk" <racerbob70 at yahoo.com>
To: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>; "Spridgets List"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spam Filters


Larry,
  The same is happening to me also.  I contacted Yahoo
and got a form type of answer.  Said how I had to mark
them as "not spam"!!!!!  Well I've been marking them
for over 2 weeks now and I'm still getting them.  What
pisses me off is that I have to download each message
to mark it as spam.  If I could just mark it with a
drag down menu wouldn't be so bad..


--- Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Has anybody else been having a problem with your
> spam filter taking out
> autox.team.net messages lately?  My Yahoo groups
> aren't affected, but the darn
> thing is taking out about 1/2 of my Spridget and MG
> lists through Mark.  It
> has been going on for, it seems, 2 to 3 weeks now.
>
> I have DSL with AT&T Yahoo.
>
>
> LAD
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 30 22:43:25 2007
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 21:43:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Iowa craigslist sprite
Message-ID: <784927.52007.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

http://desmoines.craigslist.org/car/517174154.htm

Now where the f at ck is my copy of dharma Bums??? this
materialism thing is getting very bad in my head....


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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Dec 30 22:54:23 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:54:23 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] EFI progress
In-Reply-To: <200712310457.lBV4vQ0r013557@diometes.ucdavis.edu>
References: <200712310457.lBV4vQ0r013557@diometes.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712302154w216edf0v939303f529eb089a@mail.gmail.com>

Glen,

I sure am looking forward to seeing your handywork in Missouri!!  I'm about
as ignorant as they come with engine management so I hope to pick up a lot
of knowledge from you.

For those who didn't already know it, Glen has agreed to do a tech
presentation on his EFI project BE at the Golden Anniversary event. Between
seeing Glen's work and taking a gander at Larry Miller's BUGZUKI we should
all get a primer in what can be done to "soup-up" an LBC!
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

On 12/30/07, Glen Byrns <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu> wrote:
>
> I've come a  long way with the EFI tuning.  The wideband O2
> sensor allows the Autotune function to dial in the car pretty fast.
> The timing table is set up as well as a table of target
> air/fuel ratios.  This allows me to operate at, say, 12;1 AFR and
> 22deg. BTDC when at 10lbs boost, and 16;1 AFR at 49deg. BTDC when
> cruising.
> The plugs look great and each morning's cold start is better dialed
> in than the day before. The motor is running so well that I've had
> to cover half the radiator to get up to the 160deg needed to trigger
> Autotune.  Well, part good tune and part bloody cold weather!!!
>
> I finished a new center console to hold two speakers, fuel pressure
> gauge, AFR gauge and power tap for the GPS and/or G-tech.
>
> I mounted the old fiberglass hardtop and cleaned it up.  It sure
> makes these winter tuning rides more bearable.
>
> I posted shots of the new console and hardtop on my homepage:
> http://home.comcast.net/~byrns.family/wsb/html/view.cgi-photos.html-.html
>
> This is one hell of an education on engine management and its turning
> out to be really fun.

From stargazer1 at cox.net  Mon Dec 31 00:28:57 2007
From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:28:57 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Iowa craigslist sprite
In-Reply-To: <784927.52007.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <784927.52007.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <47789A39.5020103@cox.net>

Ron Soave wrote:

>http://desmoines.craigslist.org/car/517174154.htm
>
>Now where the f at ck is my copy of dharma Bums??? this
>materialism thing is getting very bad in my head....
>  
>
This is wierd. I've misplaced my copy too. Probably ran off for some Yab 
Yam. :-)  Better than dharma bums are the Urban Dharma podcasts on iTunes.

Cheers,
Dave Ambrose

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Mon Dec 31 04:08:18 2007
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 05:08:18 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Iowa craigslist sprite
In-Reply-To: <47789A39.5020103@cox.net>
References: <784927.52007.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<47789A39.5020103@cox.net>
Message-ID: <e98d88090712310308qf7c1e61hd303ed111f963bb5@mail.gmail.com>

blank page...........

On Dec 31, 2007 1:28 AM, David Ambrose <stargazer1 at cox.net> wrote:

> Ron Soave wrote:
>
> >http://desmoines.craigslist.org/car/517174154.htm
> >
> >Now where the f at ck is my copy of dharma Bums??? this
> >materialism thing is getting very bad in my head....
> >
> >
> This is wierd. I've misplaced my copy too. Probably ran off for some Yab
> Yam. :-)  Better than dharma bums are the Urban Dharma podcasts on iTunes.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave Ambrose
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From kgrowler at aol.com  Mon Dec 31 04:56:51 2007
From: kgrowler at aol.com (kgrowler at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 06:56:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Iowa craigslist sprite
Message-ID: <8CA19BB5D5D5701-C7C-266C@webmail-db14.sysops.aol.com>

<<<Now where the f at ck is my copy of dharma Bums??? >>>


It's not right there on the shelf between 'Desolation Angels' and 'On The Road'?




Kim Tonry

Downeres Grove, Illinois, USA




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From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Mon Dec 31 04:57:39 2007
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 06:57:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
Message-ID: <DA9B4FC3-389D-49D0-ADA6-DEF1E85D59BD@phillymgclub.com>

My 2WD 2003 Dodge Dakota had ABS, but only on the rear. Could not get  
the damn thing to slide sideways fur nuttin' Well, except on ice ;-)

Also had a limited slip. Both were std in 2 WD, but not the 4WD models.

Larry

On Dec 30, 2007, at 1:31 PM, Jim Juhas wrote:

> Instead of spending money on the optional ABS over the past several  
> years, I instead was treated to driving school w/ Skip Barber at  
> LRP.  But I knew the day would come when tech would catch up to me.   
> My new F250 has ABS.  I think it's standard now.  No need to test it  
> yet.
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From:  Larry Macy <lmacy at phillymgclub.com>
> Subj:  Re: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
> Date:  Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:59 am
> Size:  1K
> To:  Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
> cc:  "'Spridgets'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>
> In fact, ABS equipped cars tend to have longer stopping distance on
> dry pavement. Not sure about ice, never owned a car that had it.
>
> It's only function, AFAIK, is directional control and control in a
> panic stop. It serves no other function, it certainly is not about
> stopping shorter.
>
> Larry
>
> On Dec 30, 2007, at 10:56 AM, Robert Duquette wrote:
>
>> Cars don't drive themselves.  I drive an older Subaru ( 2001 ) and
>> with
>> snows on ... it's the greatest car I've ever driven.  I'm not in the
>> financial league to buy the latest and greatest, but to me it's  
>> great.
>> Brake wise, I learned this fall that performance summer tires on the
>> "slippery as" snow aren't a good thing.  My understanding is that
>> ABS does
>> not stop you faster, but allows you to keep some directional control.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Lieb
>>
>>> ABS works on speed difference between the wheels.That's one reason
>>> why
>>> it doesn't go off at a dead stop. Lock 'em up at 0mph, and then
>>> start to
>>> slide, and it'll do you no good. But if you let go and start  
>>> rolling,
>>> and then apply the brakes, and the wheels slip, voila, ABS!
>>
>> All well and good, Chris, but on ice where none of the four wheels  
>> has
>> any traction, ABS does ABSolutely no good at all. Likewise, having a
>> Subaru WRX STi with all the Torsens in the world does you no good
>> when you high-center it on a snowdift, but it certainly was highly
>> entertaining for the rest of us to watch the Polish dude try to  
>> figure
>> out why his "invincible" car was not moving ;-)
>> David Lieb
>> _

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Mon Dec 31 05:11:21 2007
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 07:11:21 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
In-Reply-To: <DA9B4FC3-389D-49D0-ADA6-DEF1E85D59BD@phillymgclub.com>
References: <DA9B4FC3-389D-49D0-ADA6-DEF1E85D59BD@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <9B33577C-A717-4FE5-BDC3-AB211A85FE16@phillymgclub.com>

I should clarify that. I could get it to slide with the right pedal,  
not the center one.

Larry

On Dec 31, 2007, at 6:57 AM, Larry Macy wrote:

> My 2WD 2003 Dodge Dakota had ABS, but only on the rear. Could not get
> the damn thing to slide sideways fur nuttin' Well, except on ice ;-)
>
> Also had a limited slip. Both were std in 2 WD, but not the 4WD  
> models.
>
> Larry
>
> On Dec 30, 2007, at 1:31 PM, Jim Juhas wrote:
>
>> Instead of spending money on the optional ABS over the past several
>> years, I instead was treated to driving school w/ Skip Barber at
>> LRP.  But I knew the day would come when tech would catch up to me.
>> My new F250 has ABS.  I think it's standard now.  No need to test it
>> yet.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From:  Larry Macy <lmacy at phillymgclub.com>
>> Subj:  Re: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
>> Date:  Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:59 am
>> Size:  1K
>> To:  Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
>> cc:  "'Spridgets'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>>
>> In fact, ABS equipped cars tend to have longer stopping distance on
>> dry pavement. Not sure about ice, never owned a car that had it.
>>
>> It's only function, AFAIK, is directional control and control in a
>> panic stop. It serves no other function, it certainly is not about
>> stopping shorter.
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> On Dec 30, 2007, at 10:56 AM, Robert Duquette wrote:
>>
>>> Cars don't drive themselves.  I drive an older Subaru ( 2001 ) and
>>> with
>>> snows on ... it's the greatest car I've ever driven.  I'm not in the
>>> financial league to buy the latest and greatest, but to me it's
>>> great.
>>> Brake wise, I learned this fall that performance summer tires on the
>>> "slippery as" snow aren't a good thing.  My understanding is that
>>> ABS does
>>> not stop you faster, but allows you to keep some directional  
>>> control.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: David Lieb
>>>
>>>> ABS works on speed difference between the wheels.That's one reason
>>>> why
>>>> it doesn't go off at a dead stop. Lock 'em up at 0mph, and then
>>>> start to
>>>> slide, and it'll do you no good. But if you let go and start
>>>> rolling,
>>>> and then apply the brakes, and the wheels slip, voila, ABS!
>>>
>>> All well and good, Chris, but on ice where none of the four wheels
>>> has
>>> any traction, ABS does ABSolutely no good at all. Likewise, having a
>>> Subaru WRX STi with all the Torsens in the world does you no good
>>> when you high-center it on a snowdift, but it certainly was highly
>>> entertaining for the rest of us to watch the Polish dude try to
>>> figure
>>> out why his "invincible" car was not moving ;-)
>>> David Lieb
>>> _
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From james.f.juhas at snet.net  Mon Dec 31 06:00:00 2007
From: james.f.juhas at snet.net (Jim Juhas)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 8:00:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
Message-ID: <20071231130138.DD6F3187A6C@autox.team.net>

My 1994 Dodge Ram 1500 had rear ABS but without LSD.  I never thougt it did much.  When towing my race trailer with the equalizing hitch I would often get rear lockup on wet roads.  On mine there was no fancy hydraulics so I'm not sure how it was supposed to work. 

-----Original Message-----

From:  Larry Macy <lmacy at phillymgclub.com>
Subj:  Re: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
Date:  Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:57 am
Size:  1K
To:  Jim Juhas <james.f.juhas at snet.net>
cc:  Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>,        "'Spridgets'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>

My 2WD 2003 Dodge Dakota had ABS, but only on the rear. Could not get  
the damn thing to slide sideways fur nuttin' Well, except on ice ;-)

Also had a limited slip. Both were std in 2 WD, but not the 4WD models.

Larry

From p.herder at cox.net  Mon Dec 31 07:23:49 2007
From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 08:23:49 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Iowa craigslist sprite
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090712310308qf7c1e61hd303ed111f963bb5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <784927.52007.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com><47789A39.5020103@cox.net>
	<e98d88090712310308qf7c1e61hd303ed111f963bb5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <19F7DF571BDD4A42A5866B42F74E2ABC@PaulVU>

He cut off the last "l"

Try this:

http://desmoines.craigslist.org/car/517174154.html

Paul

-----Original Message-----

blank page...........

On Dec 31, 2007 1:28 AM, David Ambrose <stargazer1 at cox.net> wrote:

> Ron Soave wrote:
>
> >http://desmoines.craigslist.org/car/517174154.htm
> >
> >Now where the f at ck is my copy of dharma Bums??? this
> >materialism thing is getting very bad in my head....
> >
> >
> This is wierd. I've misplaced my copy too. Probably ran off for some Yab
> Yam. :-)  Better than dharma bums are the Urban Dharma podcasts on iTunes.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave Ambrose
> _______________________________________________

From abcoz at hky.com  Mon Dec 31 08:48:24 2007
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 10:48:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] primers....thinking out loud
In-Reply-To: <47781708.8020600@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <003101c84bc4$94749280$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Thanks, Frank.  Keeping in mind that this discussion is for the
underside, only; I've already got the dust situation well under control.
The general consensus is that the PPG product can/has been successfully
used with just a good "solvent wash".  My solvents of choice are Dupont
3919S, followed by lacquer thinner.
Re: the body filler over self-etching primers.....I've long since
mis-placed the instruction/data sheet for Variprime, so I have no way to
confirm that.  However, I'm going to follow your recommendation and stay
away from the self-etching primer (even though I won't be using any body
filler on the underside).
As far as base-clear vs. single stage is concerned, I'm not real
concerned with duplicating the original finish, and I've been very happy
with the two base coat-clear coat lacquer paint jobs I've done, as
opposed to acrylic enamel, or single stage lacquer.  Since this one will
be Glacier White, I'm fairly comfortable with future repairs, given
white's wonderful ability to hide repairs/imperfections.  Also, this is
a "driver", first and formost, so I'm not concerned about a few paint
chips gained from hard driving ;)
The guy I learned painting from, years (now decades !!!) ago, has been
urging me to try the new acrylic enamels (or whatever they've been
replaced with) since 1990.  However, I have found the acrylic lacquer to
be durable enough for my purposes, as well as MUCH easier to live with
in my workshop (clean-up issues, primarily).  So, until the enviro-nazis
pry the acrylic lacquer out of my cold, dead hands (or I can no longer
find the stuff); I'm stickin' with it.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Clarici [mailto:spritenut at comcast.net] 
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 5:09 PM
To: Bud Osbourne
Cc: Spridgets at Autox. Team. Net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] primers....thinking out loud

The soap and water wash is to clean the dust off the car.
You can use final prep or wax/grease remover instead.
Also watch the etching primers, they do not like body filler over 
etching primers. Or so the label says.
I etch, epoxy, then surface/filler prime.
Also give long hard thoughts to a base/clear paint job.
Touch ups are near impossible or very time consuming.
My son was a base/clear man for a few years but WHEN, not IF the base 
clear got a chip or scratch, the touch up was worse than the damage.
Now he, like me, use the single stage urethane paint.
Need a scratch or chip touched up, just do it and wet sand the spot the 
next day, you never see it.
But, I am just thinking out loud Bud, just letting you know what I have 
learned about base/clears. I wish my Jag was never clear coated because 
now 4 years old, there are chips in the clear and it's just not possible

to touch it up and make it look good.
Just think, the car is all painted and shiny and during assembly you 
slip with a screw driver or wrench and chip the paint where the mirror 
goes on the door. Gawd I hate it when I do that! Good thing it was 
single stage.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Dec 31 07:48:34 2007
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 09:48:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
In-Reply-To: <6diap8$lefi4a@toip16.srvr.bell.ca>
References: <6diap8$lefi4a@toip16.srvr.bell.ca>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP112D20B97A1C50132172CDB8500@CEZ.ICE>

Please accept my apologies in advance ... but ... you really shouldn't be
driving while on LSD ...  ;)

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Juhas
My 1994 Dodge Ram 1500 had rear ABS but without LSD.  I never thougt it did
much.  When towing my race trailer with the equalizing hitch I would often
get rear lockup on wet roads.  On mine there was no fancy hydraulics so I'm
not sure how it was supposed to work. 

-----Original Message-----

From:  Larry Macy

My 2WD 2003 Dodge Dakota had ABS, but only on the rear. Could not get  
the damn thing to slide sideways fur nuttin' Well, except on ice ;-)

Also had a limited slip. Both were std in 2 WD, but not the 4WD models.

Larry

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Mon Dec 31 08:06:42 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 09:06:42 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
References: <6diap8$lefi4a@toip16.srvr.bell.ca>
	<BAYC1-PASMTP112D20B97A1C50132172CDB8500@CEZ.ICE>
Message-ID: <000a01c84bbe$c0c5d840$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>

> Please accept my apologies in advance ... but ... you really shouldn't be
> driving while on LSD ...  ;)

That all depends...
Here in Chicago they close down Lake Shore Drive once a year for 
their "Bike the Drive" event. Other than that, you are REQUIRED to 
drive on LSD.

From bpazur at excel.net  Mon Dec 31 09:55:56 2007
From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 10:55:56 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...(some LBC content)
References: <BAY118-DAV87F8C535F0690DAF712E0C8500@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000901c84bce$047c4ba0$c8e767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH>

Yeah, my WRX is fast - following someone at 55 MPH, I drop it into third and
I pass at 85 in about two seconds. And with my 'summer tires' (225/45ZR17
Kuhmos), it corners like an SOB at high speeds on country roads (of course,
I only do that when I can do it safely).

Bud

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert E. Shlafer" <pilotrob at webtv.net>
To: "Bud Pazur" <bpazur at excel.net>; "Robert Duquette"
<robertduquette at sympatico.ca>; "'Spridgets'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...(some LBC content)


> You're not the only one who swears by his
> WRX when it comes to safety.
>
> My old boss at the autoparts store I used to work at between flying jobs
many moons ago has a WRX. The car is not only
> superfast, the handling/braking is absolutley phenomenal...nice to have
for icy/snowy conditions (driven reasonably for conditions, of course!:).
>
> It really is a helluva machine/value for the buck.
>
> Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From dmg at bossig.com  Mon Dec 31 09:35:02 2007
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 08:35:02 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...(some LBC content)
In-Reply-To: <000901c84bce$047c4ba0$c8e767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH>
References: <BAY118-DAV87F8C535F0690DAF712E0C8500@phx.gbl>,
	<000901c84bce$047c4ba0$c8e767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH>
Message-ID: <4778A9B6.23178.1600DF@dmg.bossig.com>

>> it corners like an SOB at high speeds on country roads
>> (of course, I only do that when I can do it safely).

Of course you do....
I believe you....
Thousands wouldn't, but I do...
I also believe in the Tooth Fairy...  <BFG>

-
Dave G, KK7SS
'65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA

From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 31 09:47:15 2007
From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 08:47:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted
Message-ID: <880054.47211.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Yeah that statement alone is scary with this list. 
   
  I'm putting Bugsy into the garage for A Pillar skin work. Outer Sills were replaced by PO many years ago but I've got a slight door gap issue on DS Door and even on PS Door. Rub at the top. Doors do close but gap is real close. Do I 
   
  1) Try to trim and reweld edge of the door for clearance.
   
  2) Cut off Outer sills, place jack under car and lift to obtain additional door gap clearance, Reweld new Outer sills back on.  
   
  I'm making assumption that I can do some sort of adjustment to door gaps by lifting with Outer Sill off. Please correct my errant thinking if I'm wrong. 


Jim Gruber
Bugsy '68 Sprite (future Bugeye in disguise)
Cincinnati, OH
       
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From twobees at sprynet.com  Mon Dec 31 09:55:46 2007
From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 11:55:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Grassroots Motorsport magazine
Message-ID: <002601c84bcd$fd6a2530$64451645@normoffice>

Anyone out there have a copy of the GRM October issue?  I'm looking for
something that may have been in it.  None of the libraries around here carry
it.  And, I don't know anyone who buys it.  And, I don't want to buy a back
issue too see IF what I'm seeking is in it.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Norm
'59 Turner w/948

From p.herder at cox.net  Mon Dec 31 10:08:52 2007
From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 11:08:52 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] EFI progress
In-Reply-To: <200712310457.lBV4vQ0r013557@diometes.ucdavis.edu>
References: <200712310457.lBV4vQ0r013557@diometes.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <807DDB0D63A74BAA98DD921FA3A5D9AC@PaulVU>

FYI, the latest copy of Practical Classics has an article on putting EFI AND
DIS on an "A" engine!  It is in two parts and the current issue (January
2008) has part one.

 

Part two has the fuel system, circuitry and components.  I am looking
forward to seeing what they used for a throttle body and injector(s).

 

Paul

66 Sprite in Sedgwick, KS

 

-----Original Message-----



I've come a long way with the EFI tuning.  The wideband O2 

sensor allows the Autotune function to dial in the car pretty fast.

The timing table is set up as well as a table of target

air/fuel ratios.  This allows me to operate at, say, 12;1 AFR and

22deg. BTDC when at 10lbs boost, and 16;1 AFR at 49deg. BTDC when 

cruising.

The plugs look great and each morning's cold start is better dialed

in than the day before. The motor is running so well that I've had

to cover half the radiator to get up to the 160deg needed to trigger 

Autotune.  Well, part good tune and part bloody cold weather!!!

 

I finished a new center console to hold two speakers, fuel pressure 

gauge, AFR gauge and power tap for the GPS and/or G-tech.

 

I mounted the old fiberglass hardtop and cleaned it up.  It sure

makes these winter tuning rides more bearable.

 

I posted shots of the new console and hardtop on my homepage:

http://home.comcast.net/~byrns.family/wsb/html/view.cgi-photos.html-.html

 

This is one hell of an education on engine management and its turning

out to be really fun.

 

Glen Byrns

_______________________________________________

From pythias at pacifier.com  Mon Dec 31 11:05:04 2007
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 10:05:04 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted
In-Reply-To: <880054.47211.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <880054.47211.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <802499676.20071231100504@pacifier.com>

Hello James,

       in my opinion, brussel  sprouts are icky!




-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
   "66 Sprite
     "I used to command a battalion of German ants," said Tom exuberantly.

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Mon Dec 31 11:11:28 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:11:28 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted
References: <880054.47211.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<802499676.20071231100504@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <003801c84bd8$90867850$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>

>       in my opinion, brussel  sprouts are icky!

Since I am not qualified to have an opinion on the original question, I will 
join the food group and state that okra was created for the sole purpose of 
making seafood gumbo and it is sinful to so much as contemplate any other 
use. I could really use some good gumbo right now, although I will try to 
compensate to some degree by leaving right now and picking up a Giordano's 
pizza for lunch.
David Lieb
1972 RWA Midget
1960 RWA Bugeye 

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Mon Dec 31 12:38:33 2007
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 13:38:33 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted
In-Reply-To: <003801c84bd8$90867850$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <880054.47211.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<802499676.20071231100504@pacifier.com>
	<003801c84bd8$90867850$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <e98d88090712311138k6916a9ah4f27415011e44946@mail.gmail.com>

Obviously, you have not had pickled okra

On Dec 31, 2007 12:11 PM, David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com> wrote:

> >       in my opinion, brussel  sprouts are icky!
>
> Since I am not qualified to have an opinion on the original question, I
> will
> join the food group and state that okra was created for the sole purpose
> of
> making seafood gumbo and it is sinful to so much as contemplate any other
> use. I could really use some good gumbo right now, although I will try to
> compensate to some degree by leaving right now and picking up a Giordano's
> pizza for lunch.
> David Lieb
> 1972 RWA Midget
> 1960 RWA Bugeye
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Dec 31 12:45:45 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 13:45:45 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090712311138k6916a9ah4f27415011e44946@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880054.47211.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<802499676.20071231100504@pacifier.com>
	<003801c84bd8$90867850$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<e98d88090712311138k6916a9ah4f27415011e44946@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712311145n339dc919m56c0ee8c2275bbf7@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/31/07, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Obviously, you have not had pickled okra
>

Or pan fried, breaded okra. Or deep fried, breaded okra...    Damned
Yankees....
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Mon Dec 31 12:50:51 2007
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 13:50:51 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0712311145n339dc919m56c0ee8c2275bbf7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880054.47211.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<802499676.20071231100504@pacifier.com>
	<003801c84bd8$90867850$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<e98d88090712311138k6916a9ah4f27415011e44946@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0712311145n339dc919m56c0ee8c2275bbf7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090712311150g70796ce2q596975297f8339e3@mail.gmail.com>

Don't curse the Yankees on okra. They just don't have much knowlege of the
stuff. A few years ago, my wife made some pickled okra, with a habanero
pepper in there, to spice them up. Chuck Christ can attest to the flavor. He
had never heard of such, prior to my sending him a jar.
Bottom line, they jus' don't know....
The south still holds many pleasures, not know of up north. Ron, I'll get
that package going your way today.

Brad

On Dec 31, 2007 1:45 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 12/31/07, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Obviously, you have not had pickled okra
> >
>
> Or pan fried, breaded okra. Or deep fried, breaded okra...    Damned
> Yankees....
> --
> Cheers!!
> Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
> Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
> 2008!!
> For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
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From thefirebuilds at gmail.com  Mon Dec 31 12:53:07 2007
From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 13:53:07 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090712311150g70796ce2q596975297f8339e3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880054.47211.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<802499676.20071231100504@pacifier.com>
	<003801c84bd8$90867850$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<e98d88090712311138k6916a9ah4f27415011e44946@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0712311145n339dc919m56c0ee8c2275bbf7@mail.gmail.com>
	<e98d88090712311150g70796ce2q596975297f8339e3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8a336b9d0712311153l2533e25bh42c80cb19ede3caf@mail.gmail.com>

please keep the pigs feet, ankles, ears, cow tongues, greens, chitlins,
gritz, thick gravy and history of human oppression, and I will enjoy the
bland north.

On 12/31/07, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Don't curse the Yankees on okra. They just don't have much knowlege of the
> stuff. A few years ago, my wife made some pickled okra, with a habanero
> pepper in there, to spice them up. Chuck Christ can attest to the flavor.
> He
> had never heard of such, prior to my sending him a jar.
> Bottom line, they jus' don't know....
> The south still holds many pleasures, not know of up north. Ron, I'll get
> that package going your way today.
>
> Brad
>
> On Dec 31, 2007 1:45 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 12/31/07, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Obviously, you have not had pickled okra
> > >
> >
> > Or pan fried, breaded okra. Or deep fried, breaded okra...    Damned
> > Yankees....
> > --
> > Cheers!!
> > Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
> > Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
> > 2008!!
> > For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
> >
> > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com
> >
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> >
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>
>
>
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>



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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Dec 31 13:04:36 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 14:04:36 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Finally working on my car...
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712311204o71dea4d9rd0cb08020c18dc79@mail.gmail.com>

Well, I finally got started on the Midget. Brought the engine and tranny
home from the brother-in-law's shop where the chassis sits yesterday. Today
I unloaded the lump from the back of the pickup onto my hydraulic bike lift
and dove into it. It didn't take long (thankfully) to identify both of my
main issues and actually fix one of them!  I lifted the rocker assembly off
and slapped a super-magnet onto the push rods one at a time starting from
the front. On the end of the fourth pushrod, there was my little metal pin
which I had knocked off the oil filler tube and down into the engine. # 1
problem fixed!  # 2 isn't going to go so quickly. When I took off the
flywheel and back plate, my Exxon Valdez scale oil leak became obvious. It
wasn't the oil pump can - it is the rear main pumping oil.  Now I get to try
Paul A's fix for the rear main. With a little luck I'll be putting the
engine and tranny back into a drivable car in a week or two if I get a break
from the cold weather.

Oh....   A final reminder!  Today is the last chance to vote for Buster's
Sprite and the BusterCluster article in Practical Classics.  You have until
midnight UK time (6:00 pm CST) to send an email to <pc.competitions at emap.com>
with a subject of "Best Reader-Restored"  and a text of "BusterCluster 1960
Sprite".  Remember that any winnings will be donated to help finance the
Spridget Golden Anniversary in Missouri so get those votes in!
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From james.f.juhas at snet.net  Mon Dec 31 13:18:00 2007
From: james.f.juhas at snet.net (Jim Juhas)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 15:18:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
Message-ID: <20071231201925.D4251187B1A@autox.team.net>

My new truck came with LSD.  Great deal, huh?  I bought it for trips, after all.  V

-----Original Message-----

From:  "Robert Duquette" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
Subj:  Re: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
Date:  Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:49 am
Size:  905 bytes
To:  "'Spridgets'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>

Please accept my apologies in advance ... but ... you really shouldn't be
driving while on LSD ...  ;)

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Juhas
My 1994 Dodge Ram 1500 had rear ABS but without LSD.  I never thougt it did
much.  When towing my race trailer with the equalizing hitch I would often
get rear lockup on wet roads.  On mine there was no fancy hydraulics so I'm
not sure how it was supposed to work. 

-----Original Message-----

From:  Larry Macy

My 2WD 2003 Dodge Dakota had ABS, but only on the rear. Could not get  
the damn thing to slide sideways fur nuttin' Well, except on ice ;-)

Also had a limited slip. Both were std in 2 WD, but not the 4WD models.

Larry

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Dec 31 13:18:53 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 14:18:53 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted
In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0712311153l2533e25bh42c80cb19ede3caf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880054.47211.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<802499676.20071231100504@pacifier.com>
	<003801c84bd8$90867850$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<e98d88090712311138k6916a9ah4f27415011e44946@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0712311145n339dc919m56c0ee8c2275bbf7@mail.gmail.com>
	<e98d88090712311150g70796ce2q596975297f8339e3@mail.gmail.com>
	<8a336b9d0712311153l2533e25bh42c80cb19ede3caf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712311218t3a7c06cflb40bdd6716a50cdb@mail.gmail.com>

That's what I like about northerners....    You could serve them a dish of
warm, soggy cardboard and they'd love it providing you don't ask them to
sample some new epicurian delight or actually taste something! And to think,
I used to be one of them! Thank heaven for my time in Asia, Europe and
Texas!   NOW I know better!!
--
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

"Parlez s'il vous plant l'anglais". - Le Marquis de Lafayette

On 12/31/07, Flash. <thefirebuilds at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> please keep the pigs feet, ankles, ears, cow tongues, greens, chitlins,
> gritz, thick gravy and history of human oppression, and I will enjoy the
> bland north.
>
> On 12/31/07, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Don't curse the Yankees on okra. They just don't have much knowlege of
> the
> > stuff. A few years ago, my wife made some pickled okra, with a habanero
> > pepper in there, to spice them up. Chuck Christ can attest to the
> flavor.
> > He
> > had never heard of such, prior to my sending him a jar.
> > Bottom line, they jus' don't know....
> > The south still holds many pleasures, not know of up north. Ron, I'll
> get
> > that package going your way today.
> >
> > Brad

From pvanwig at charter.net  Mon Dec 31 13:27:44 2007
From: pvanwig at charter.net (Paul Van Wig)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:27:44 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0712311145n339dc919m56c0ee8c2275bbf7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880054.47211.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com><802499676.20071231100504@pacifier.com><003801c84bd8$90867850$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov><e98d88090712311138k6916a9ah4f27415011e44946@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0712311145n339dc919m56c0ee8c2275bbf7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001b01c84beb$9a319e80$8700a8c0@PaulsToshiba>

Or even raw okra.
Paul Van Wig
"Southern California"

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+pvanwig=charter.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+pvanwig=charter.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Jim Johnson
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:46 AM
Cc: Spridget List
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted

On 12/31/07, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Obviously, you have not had pickled okra
>

Or pan fried, breaded okra. Or deep fried, breaded okra...    Damned
Yankees....
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Mon Dec 31 13:33:40 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 14:33:40 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted
References: <880054.47211.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com><802499676.20071231100504@pacifier.com><003801c84bd8$90867850$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov><e98d88090712311138k6916a9ah4f27415011e44946@mail.gmail.com><43840a7e0712311145n339dc919m56c0ee8c2275bbf7@mail.gmail.com><e98d88090712311150g70796ce2q596975297f8339e3@mail.gmail.com><8a336b9d0712311153l2533e25bh42c80cb19ede3caf@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0712311218t3a7c06cflb40bdd6716a50cdb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <072b01c84bec$6ed35d90$6401a8c0@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted


That's what I like about northerners....    You could serve them a dish of
warm, soggy cardboard and they'd love it providing you don't ask them to
sample some new epicurian delight or actually taste something! And to think,
I used to be one of them! Thank heaven for my time in Asia, Europe and
Texas!   NOW I know better!!
--
===========================

Pretty sweeping generalization there.  I have lived all my life in the north 
and one of my favorite foods is good old southern-style comfort food.  Can't 
beat it.

However, the standard for what is food stops a bit short of "any part of any 
thing that ever was alive."

LAD 

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Mon Dec 31 13:36:39 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 14:36:39 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted
References: <880054.47211.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com><802499676.20071231100504@pacifier.com><003801c84bd8$90867850$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov><e98d88090712311138k6916a9ah4f27415011e44946@mail.gmail.com><43840a7e0712311145n339dc919m56c0ee8c2275bbf7@mail.gmail.com><e98d88090712311150g70796ce2q596975297f8339e3@mail.gmail.com><8a336b9d0712311153l2533e25bh42c80cb19ede3caf@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0712311218t3a7c06cflb40bdd6716a50cdb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005301c84bec$d87ffa50$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>

I will confess to ignorance (blissful ignorance at that!) regarding pickled 
okra, but I have had it most other ways imaginable. I have never been able 
to convince my mother that okra is not food. I would offer you a sample of 
her stewed tomatoes and okra sometime, but I will not be there to partake. I 
still maintain that any use of okra outside of a good seafood gumbo is a sin 
and a wastefulness. Somehow okra is essential to a good gumbo and useless 
elsewhere.
After all, it was opinions that were elicited, not necessarily facts ;-)
I do rather like cow tongue, however, and grits are a delight that 
southerners seem determined not to share.
David Lieb
PS. Larry, your criteria seems to eliminate virtually every food group I 
have ever known other than Kraft maccaroni and cheese (if that really IS 
food). 

From thefirebuilds at gmail.com  Mon Dec 31 13:38:33 2007
From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 14:38:33 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0712311218t3a7c06cflb40bdd6716a50cdb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880054.47211.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<802499676.20071231100504@pacifier.com>
	<003801c84bd8$90867850$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<e98d88090712311138k6916a9ah4f27415011e44946@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0712311145n339dc919m56c0ee8c2275bbf7@mail.gmail.com>
	<e98d88090712311150g70796ce2q596975297f8339e3@mail.gmail.com>
	<8a336b9d0712311153l2533e25bh42c80cb19ede3caf@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0712311218t3a7c06cflb40bdd6716a50cdb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8a336b9d0712311238ha49b5f7x1cc0463ef44dd924@mail.gmail.com>

My family is from Kentucky (bowling green), but you can keep that garbage.

On 12/31/07, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> That's what I like about northerners....    You could serve them a dish of
> warm, soggy cardboard and they'd love it providing you don't ask them to
> sample some new epicurian delight or actually taste something! And to
> think,
> I used to be one of them! Thank heaven for my time in Asia, Europe and
> Texas!   NOW I know better!!
> --
> Cheers!!
> Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
> Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
> 2008!!
> For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
>
> "Parlez s'il vous plant l'anglais". - Le Marquis de Lafayette
>
> On 12/31/07, Flash. <thefirebuilds at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > please keep the pigs feet, ankles, ears, cow tongues, greens, chitlins,
> > gritz, thick gravy and history of human oppression, and I will enjoy the
> > bland north.
> >
> > On 12/31/07, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Don't curse the Yankees on okra. They just don't have much knowlege of
> > the
> > > stuff. A few years ago, my wife made some pickled okra, with a
> habanero
> > > pepper in there, to spice them up. Chuck Christ can attest to the
> > flavor.
> > > He
> > > had never heard of such, prior to my sending him a jar.
> > > Bottom line, they jus' don't know....
> > > The south still holds many pleasures, not know of up north. Ron, I'll
> > get
> > > that package going your way today.
> > >
> > > Brad
> _______________________________________________
>



--
"Une vie ` me cacher et puis libre enfin
Le festin est sur mon chemin" - Le Festin

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Mon Dec 31 13:52:58 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 14:52:58 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted
References: <880054.47211.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com><802499676.20071231100504@pacifier.com><003801c84bd8$90867850$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov><e98d88090712311138k6916a9ah4f27415011e44946@mail.gmail.com><43840a7e0712311145n339dc919m56c0ee8c2275bbf7@mail.gmail.com><e98d88090712311150g70796ce2q596975297f8339e3@mail.gmail.com><8a336b9d0712311153l2533e25bh42c80cb19ede3caf@mail.gmail.com><43840a7e0712311218t3a7c06cflb40bdd6716a50cdb@mail.gmail.com>
	<005301c84bec$d87ffa50$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <074401c84bef$20636170$6401a8c0@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
To: "Spridget List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted


I will confess to ignorance (blissful ignorance at that!) regarding pickled
okra, but I have had it most other ways imaginable. I have never been able
to convince my mother that okra is not food. I would offer you a sample of
her stewed tomatoes and okra sometime, but I will not be there to partake. I
still maintain that any use of okra outside of a good seafood gumbo is a sin
and a wastefulness. Somehow okra is essential to a good gumbo and useless
elsewhere.
After all, it was opinions that were elicited, not necessarily facts ;-)
I do rather like cow tongue, however, and grits are a delight that
southerners seem determined not to share.
David Lieb
PS. Larry, your criteria seems to eliminate virtually every food group I
have ever known other than Kraft maccaroni and cheese (if that really IS
food).
_______________________________________________

No, no, David.  I am only saying that merely because something was once a 
part of something alive, does not, in and of itself, qualify it as food.

Trust me, I am a confirmed carnivore.  And will probably someday have the 
heart attack to prove it.  Not that that will stop me.

LAD 

From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon Dec 31 13:59:58 2007
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 14:59:58 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
In-Reply-To: <DA9B4FC3-389D-49D0-ADA6-DEF1E85D59BD@phillymgclub.com>
References: <DA9B4FC3-389D-49D0-ADA6-DEF1E85D59BD@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910712311259i7f9546a5t888b20d6415e6533@mail.gmail.com>

That is what the far left pedal (parking brake) is for.


On Dec 31, 2007 5:57 AM, Larry Macy <lmacy at phillymgclub.com> wrote:
> My 2WD 2003 Dodge Dakota had ABS, but only on the rear. Could not get
> the damn thing to slide sideways fur nuttin' Well, except on ice ;-)

From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon Dec 31 14:02:18 2007
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 15:02:18 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted
In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0712311238ha49b5f7x1cc0463ef44dd924@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880054.47211.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<802499676.20071231100504@pacifier.com>
	<003801c84bd8$90867850$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<e98d88090712311138k6916a9ah4f27415011e44946@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0712311145n339dc919m56c0ee8c2275bbf7@mail.gmail.com>
	<e98d88090712311150g70796ce2q596975297f8339e3@mail.gmail.com>
	<8a336b9d0712311153l2533e25bh42c80cb19ede3caf@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0712311218t3a7c06cflb40bdd6716a50cdb@mail.gmail.com>
	<8a336b9d0712311238ha49b5f7x1cc0463ef44dd924@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910712311302x59cfe870gaf997f81ca7dfcac@mail.gmail.com>

I didn't think Bowling Green was garbage.

On Dec 31, 2007 2:38 PM, Flash. <thefirebuilds at gmail.com> wrote:
> My family is from Kentucky (bowling green), but you can keep that garbage.

From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon Dec 31 14:09:26 2007
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 15:09:26 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Opinions wanted. Now: Guide to Good Food
Message-ID: <5f00d9910712311309n16be0aepc96b0c807990827f@mail.gmail.com>

Pickled Okra = good
Fried Okra = good
Slimy Okra = pass
Rocky Mt. Oysters = pass
Escargot = good, but pass.
Boudin = good, but the casing IS pig intestine.
Blood Boudin = pass
Cracklins(fried pig skins) = good, but pass
Boiled Crawfish = good, but pass most of the time
Boiled Shrimp = good
Cow Tongue = pass
Pig parts, other than bacon or chops = pass
Hog Head Cheese = good, but pass

To be continued...........

From egnorant at dctexas.net  Mon Dec 31 14:12:53 2007
From: egnorant at dctexas.net (Bruce Lowry)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 15:12:53 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted
References: <880054.47211.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com><802499676.20071231100504@pacifier.com><003801c84bd8$90867850$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov><e98d88090712311138k6916a9ah4f27415011e44946@mail.gmail.com><43840a7e0712311145n339dc919m56c0ee8c2275bbf7@mail.gmail.com><e98d88090712311150g70796ce2q596975297f8339e3@mail.gmail.com><8a336b9d0712311153l2533e25bh42c80cb19ede3caf@mail.gmail.com><43840a7e0712311218t3a7c06cflb40bdd6716a50cdb@mail.gmail.com>
	<005301c84bec$d87ffa50$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <00d401c84bf1$e893a1d0$510a0a0a@lowrybruce>

Asked for a chicken fried with mashed taters and gravy with  a side of fried 
okra with a Dr. Pepper once in Springfield Ill once. Best they could do was 
a Veal cutlet, instant mashed potatoes with green things in it with some 
thin dark brown piss on it...and no lumps!!! They did have fried squash 
which was good, but ended up with an iced tea that I had to put sugar in.
I once worked in a restaraunt where we had the perfect ongoing Gumbo.
Nearly 2 years until some idiot put CORN in it.
Never the same after that.
Yes, Okra if food..Anchovies are not food!

Bruce
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
To: "Spridget List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted


>I will confess to ignorance (blissful ignorance at that!) regarding pickled
> okra, but I have had it most other ways imaginable. I have never been able
> to convince my mother that okra is not food. I would offer you a sample of
> her stewed tomatoes and okra sometime, but I will not be there to partake. 
> I
> still maintain that any use of okra outside of a good seafood gumbo is a 
> sin
> and a wastefulness. Somehow okra is essential to a good gumbo and useless
> elsewhere.
> After all, it was opinions that were elicited, not necessarily facts ;-)
> I do rather like cow tongue, however, and grits are a delight that
> southerners seem determined not to share.
> David Lieb
> PS. Larry, your criteria seems to eliminate virtually every food group I
> have ever known other than Kraft maccaroni and cheese (if that really IS
> food).
> _______________________________________________
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From jax2a at hotmail.com  Mon Dec 31 14:29:07 2007
From: jax2a at hotmail.com (Peej Noggin)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 16:29:07 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] GRM Request
In-Reply-To: <mailman.10.1199127602.24871.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.10.1199127602.24871.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <BAY101-W321252109CA9FE7E88B4F8EF500@phx.gbl>

Norm, I get GRM.  What are you looking for?

Jack

--Forwarded Message Attachment--From: twobees at sprynet.comSubject: [Spridgets]
Grassroots Motorsport magazineDate: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 11:55:46 -0500To:
spridgets at autox.team.netAnyone out there have a copy of the GRM October issue?
I'm looking forsomething that may have been in it.  None of the libraries
around here carryit.  And, I don't know anyone who buys it.  And, I don't want
to buy a backissue too see IF what I'm seeking is in it. Any help would be
appreciated. Thanks in advance. Norm'59 Turner w/948

_________________________________________________________________
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From shelden3 at pldi.net  Mon Dec 31 14:50:33 2007
From: shelden3 at pldi.net (Charlie Shelden)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 15:50:33 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted now OKRA
References: <880054.47211.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com><802499676.20071231100504@pacifier.com>
	<003801c84bd8$90867850$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <002801c84bf7$2b9d3ef0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx>

While Okra is ok in gumbo especially that, that comes from the state of LA., 
in which case there needs to be some crawfish involved.

Around here you can't eat chicken fried steak unless you have mashed 
potatoe, cream gravey (the kind with the grease and unknown fryings from the 
pan), corn on cob and FRIED okra.

Okra boiled, pickled, canned steamed etc...well it isn't good In MY opinion 
:)

Charlie
OKC,OK
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
To: "Spridget List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted


>>       in my opinion, brussel  sprouts are icky!
> 


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From abcoz at hky.com  Mon Dec 31 16:16:56 2007
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 18:16:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted
In-Reply-To: <880054.47211.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <004401c84c03$3d110e80$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Jim,
Have you ever had the chassis checked for "true"?  If you plan to get
those door gaps corrected the right way, you will have to have some way
of checking and re-checking the chassis alignment, before you weld
everything back into place.  Otherwise, you could end up with a pretty
significantly "tweaked" chassis.
If you've got a good, LEVEL concrete floor in your garage, you can
probably come up with some sort of arrangement to measure and support
the chassis, while you line things up.  Of course, you'll want to do a
bunch of door gap measurements, and diagonal measurements between r/s
and l/s door openings.  Probably wouldn't hurt to measure the doors in a
bunch of places, too.
It's entirely possible that the door gap condition you've described
could be the result of a previous repair/replacement of the rear
fenders.  You see, when the rear fenders are cut free from the inner
fenders, for installation of a lower fender repair panel, the fender
tends to "straighten out"/loose it's bow, causing the door gap to
mysteriously shrink.  Don't ask me how I learned this ;)
Also, when you do repair work/re-skin of the door posts, there is a good
chance you can build in some real alignment/clearance problems for
yourself.  Be real careful, take your time, and think your way through
it.
BTW, I prefer sauerkraut and kielbasa, washed down with a really good
lager.  Them southern boys can keep their okra(?) and their Bud, Bud
Light/Miller, Miller Light;)
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
James Gruber
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:47 AM
To: Spridgets Digest
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted

Yeah that statement alone is scary with this list. 
   
  I'm putting Bugsy into the garage for A Pillar skin work. Outer Sills
were replaced by PO many years ago but I've got a slight door gap issue
on DS Door and even on PS Door. Rub at the top. Doors do close but gap
is real close. Do I 
   
  1) Try to trim and reweld edge of the door for clearance.
   
  2) Cut off Outer sills, place jack under car and lift to obtain
additional door gap clearance, Reweld new Outer sills back on.  
   
  I'm making assumption that I can do some sort of adjustment to door
gaps by lifting with Outer Sill off. Please correct my errant thinking
if I'm wrong. 


Jim Gruber
Bugsy '68 Sprite (future Bugeye in disguise)
Cincinnati, OH

From abcoz at hky.com  Mon Dec 31 16:29:57 2007
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 18:29:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] primers....thinking out loud
In-Reply-To: <47781708.8020600@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <004501c84c05$0ea37540$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Frank,
My local autobody shop supply house confirmed what you said about not
applying fillers over self-etching primers.  It seems that the etching
"agent" leaches into the filler.
Also, they said that they didn't know of ANYONE who is following PPG's
recommendation to "soap & water" wash the metal before applying the
epoxy primer. 
We also discussed the new enamels, and I'm beginning to feel a bit more
comfortable with making the switch from lacquer to enamel.  While it
would be pretty hard to screw up Glacier White, the other paint work I'm
planning this year involves a dove grey Mk.I, and I sure don't want to
have to depend on some guy half way across the country getting THAT
color mixed correctly.  Much easier to have it mixed up a couple of
miles from home, on the morning that I will be shooting it.  So, I'm now
an old dog leaning very strongly toward learning a few new tricks.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Clarici [mailto:spritenut at comcast.net] 
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 5:09 PM
To: Bud Osbourne
Cc: Spridgets at Autox. Team. Net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] primers....thinking out loud

The soap and water wash is to clean the dust off the car.
You can use final prep or wax/grease remover instead.
Also watch the etching primers, they do not like body filler over 
etching primers. Or so the label says.
I etch, epoxy, then surface/filler prime.
Also give long hard thoughts to a base/clear paint job.
Touch ups are near impossible or very time consuming.
My son was a base/clear man for a few years but WHEN, not IF the base 
clear got a chip or scratch, the touch up was worse than the damage.
Now he, like me, use the single stage urethane paint.
Need a scratch or chip touched up, just do it and wet sand the spot the 
next day, you never see it.
But, I am just thinking out loud Bud, just letting you know what I have 
learned about base/clears. I wish my Jag was never clear coated because 
now 4 years old, there are chips in the clear and it's just not possible

to touch it up and make it look good.
Just think, the car is all painted and shiny and during assembly you 
slip with a screw driver or wrench and chip the paint where the mirror 
goes on the door. Gawd I hate it when I do that! Good thing it was 
single stage.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Mon Dec 31 15:24:39 2007
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 16:24:39 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted
References: <880054.47211.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com><802499676.20071231100504@pacifier.com><003801c84bd8$90867850$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov><e98d88090712311138k6916a9ah4f27415011e44946@mail.gmail.com><43840a7e0712311145n339dc919m56c0ee8c2275bbf7@mail.gmail.com>
	<001b01c84beb$9a319e80$8700a8c0@PaulsToshiba>
Message-ID: <000b01c84bfb$ef2b5c90$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>

> Or even raw okra.

In that case, allow me to imply that you would eat eggplant, too ;-)
Don't even get me started on chayote squash!

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Dec 31 15:21:52 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:21:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted
In-Reply-To: <00d401c84bf1$e893a1d0$510a0a0a@lowrybruce>
References: <880054.47211.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com><802499676.20071231100504@pacifier.com><003801c84bd8$90867850$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov><e98d88090712311138k6916a9ah4f27415011e44946@mail.gmail.com><43840a7e0712311145n339dc919m56c0ee8c2275bbf7@mail.gmail.com><e98d88090712311150g70796ce2q596975297f8339e3@mail.gmail.com><8a336b9d0712311153l2533e25bh42c80cb19ede3caf@mail.gmail.com><43840a7e0712311218t3a7c06cflb40bdd6716a50cdb@mail.gmail.com>
	<005301c84bec$d87ffa50$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<00d401c84bf1$e893a1d0$510a0a0a@lowrybruce>
Message-ID: <47796B80.1070302@comcast.net>

Bruce Lowry wrote:

> Yes, Okra if food..Anchovies are not food!

Anchovies on a REAL tomato pie, not a cardboard pizza, are to die for.
I even like okra. Isn't that a whale? ;)
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Dec 31 15:27:18 2007
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:27:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted
In-Reply-To: <880054.47211.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <880054.47211.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <47796CC6.2020605@comcast.net>

James Gruber wrote:
> Yeah that statement alone is scary with this list. 
>    
>   I'm putting Bugsy into the garage for A Pillar skin work. 

So now that we all gave our opinions on foods, has anybody tried to 
offer help for Jim's doors?

Jim
Have you tried adjusting the doors? They move up, down, in, out at each 
hinge.
Loosen the bolts inside the door, and loosen the screws in the hinges.
I use some thin strips of wood to hold the door close while tightening 
the bolts. Keep upward pressure on the doors where they meet the B post 
because it's own weight will make it drop just a tad.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From dmg at bossig.com  Mon Dec 31 15:54:20 2007
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 14:54:20 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted now OKRA
In-Reply-To: <002801c84bf7$2b9d3ef0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx>
References: <880054.47211.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<002801c84bf7$2b9d3ef0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx>
Message-ID: <4779029C.16845.1714708@dmg.bossig.com>

What I miss (up here in the Pacific NW) is Smithfield ham with red-eye 
gravy with a sausage patty and SF Hash browns for a Sunday breakfast.

On the other hand, maybe that's a good thing because I've had a triple-
bypass <Grin>

-
Dave G, KK7SS
'65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Mon Dec 31 16:02:09 2007
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:02:09 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted
References: <880054.47211.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com><802499676.20071231100504@pacifier.com><003801c84bd8$90867850$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov><e98d88090712311138k6916a9ah4f27415011e44946@mail.gmail.com><43840a7e0712311145n339dc919m56c0ee8c2275bbf7@mail.gmail.com><e98d88090712311150g70796ce2q596975297f8339e3@mail.gmail.com><8a336b9d0712311153l2533e25bh42c80cb19ede3caf@mail.gmail.com><43840a7e0712311218t3a7c06cflb40bdd6716a50cdb@mail.gmail.com><005301c84bec$d87ffa50$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov><00d401c84bf1$e893a1d0$510a0a0a@lowrybruce>
	<47796B80.1070302@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <078401c84c01$2c4692c0$6401a8c0@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>
To: "Bruce Lowry" <egnorant at dctexas.net>
Cc: "Spridget List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted


Bruce Lowry wrote:

> Yes, Okra if food..Anchovies are not food!

Anchovies on a REAL tomato pie, not a cardboard pizza, are to die for.
I even like okra. Isn't that a whale? ;)
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
_______________________________________________

Nor can you have a real Caesar Salad w/o anchovies.

LAD

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Mon Dec 31 16:04:31 2007
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:04:31 -0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted now OKRA
In-Reply-To: <4779029C.16845.1714708@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <000401c84c01$8163aa90$0501a8c0@MAIN>

I signed back on to "Spridgets" a few weeks before Christmas.
Whilst I respect everyone's' rights to discuss any topic under the sun (or
moon) I am disappointed with the lack of Spridget talk on this Spridget
list.
It isn't like it used to be on this particular list, way back.
I know this is Cabin Fever Season for many but wonder if perhaps the more
technical discussion has migrated to another list?

Happy New Year!

Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf
Of Dave G.
Sent: 31 December 2007 22:54
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted now OKRA

What I miss (up here in the Pacific NW) is Smithfield ham with red-eye
gravy with a sausage patty and SF Hash browns for a Sunday breakfast.

On the other hand, maybe that's a good thing because I've had a triple-
bypass <Grin>

-
Dave G, KK7SS
'65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA
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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Mon Dec 31 16:32:47 2007
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:32:47 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] WTB Hardtop
Message-ID: <895BE931A9D4407D97882AEF9311A5A7@Home>

Seeing Glen Byrns' hardtop at 
http://home.comcast.net/~byrns.family/wsb/html/view.cgi-photos.html-.html
reminds me that NY weather will be more bearable with a hardtop that will fit a MKIII.  Does anyone just happen to have an extra lying around they would sell?  

Michael Rowe

From Daniel1312 at aol.com  Mon Dec 31 16:34:01 2007
From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 18:34:01 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] New Engine oil change
Message-ID: <c78.23ca1391.34aad669@aol.com>

Hi List,
 
I decided that since the new engine in my Sprite cost me a small fortune  
(King's ransom if you're a royalist) I'd go with the oil change after a 100  
miles rather than wait for the full 500 miles.  The oil still looked pretty  clean 
when it came and there was some metal particles that drained out with  the 
oil.  The sump plug, which is magnetic, had really fine metal sludge on  it that 
wiped off.  In fact the oil looked a whole lot better than the old  that came 
out of the old engine before I pulled it.
 
I decided NOT to change the filter at this point and will either change it  
at 500 miles or maybe wait for the full 1000.
 
Regards and Happy New Year
 
Daniel1312

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Mon Dec 31 16:42:58 2007
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:42:58 -0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted now OKRA
In-Reply-To: <68vr7k$27kugc@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <001201c84c06$e01ad9f0$0501a8c0@MAIN>

Hi Tim,
I replaced the rack on mine a few weeks ago. I found that the replacement
rack tube was slightly slack in the clamps, although the original had been
tight. The company who supplied the rack said it was normal to put a couple
of wraps of insulating tape around. I checked with others who said much the
same. I actually used some of the self-annealing tape as it seemed to do the
job better and was soft enough to allow the clamps to tighten down properly.

Between the clamps and the frame I used packing pieces cut from 2mm thick
Vinyl floor tiles when I first rebuilt the car about 45,000 miles ago. They
were still in good condition when I replaced the rack.

Happy New Year to all.

Guy
-----Original Message-----
From: Timothy H. Collins [mailto:thcollin at mtu.edu]
Sent: 31 December 2007 23:27
To: Guy Weller
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted now OKRA

Guy,
Maybe you can help me with a Spridget question. Do you know what
should be used between the rack and pinon and the brackets that
fasten the rack to the car for a liner? Strips of inner tube? tar
paper? nothing? I seem to remember something in there, but that was
decades ago that I took it apart.

I think you are right about cabin fever and perhaps there aren't that
many guys working on their cars so questions are far and few. I am,
though. Have a look: http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/

Anyway, Happy New Year!
Tim

At 06:04 PM 12/31/2007, you wrote:
>I signed back on to "Spridgets" a few weeks before Christmas.
>Whilst I respect everyone's' rights to discuss any topic under the sun (or
>moon) I am disappointed with the lack of Spridget talk on this Spridget
>list.
>It isn't like it used to be on this particular list, way back.
>I know this is Cabin Fever Season for many but wonder if perhaps the more
>technical discussion has migrated to another list?
>
>Happy New Year!
>
>Guy

Tim Collins
1966 AH Sprite
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From bpazur at excel.net  Mon Dec 31 17:32:32 2007
From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 18:32:32 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...(some LBC content)
References: <BAY118-DAV87F8C535F0690DAF712E0C8500@phx.gbl>,
	<000901c84bce$047c4ba0$c8e767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH>
	<4778A9B6.23178.1600DF@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <000501c84c0d$cca57360$1ae767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH>

That's funny - I beleive in the Tooth Fairy too.

Bud

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave G." <dmg at bossig.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...(some LBC content)


> >> it corners like an SOB at high speeds on country roads
> >> (of course, I only do that when I can do it safely).
> 
> Of course you do....
> I believe you....
> Thousands wouldn't, but I do...
> I also believe in the Tooth Fairy...  <BFG>
> 
> -
> Dave G, KK7SS
> '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA
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From bpazur at excel.net  Mon Dec 31 17:40:01 2007
From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 18:40:01 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Okra
Message-ID: <000e01c84c0e$d867e600$1ae767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH>

I believe in okra, too. But, to me, grits and collards greens are the Holy
Grail of Southern food. On a trip down to Mississippi a couple of years ago,
to visit the sacred sites of the Delta Blues, I had plenty of both. Sheboygan
may have brats, which I love, but I am longing for those hot tamales.

Bud

From pythias at pacifier.com  Mon Dec 31 17:13:52 2007
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 16:13:52 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] WTB Hardtop
In-Reply-To: <895BE931A9D4407D97882AEF9311A5A7@Home>
References: <895BE931A9D4407D97882AEF9311A5A7@Home>
Message-ID: <1153142003.20071231161352@pacifier.com>

Hello Michael,

       hey, get in the back of the line for that... .. i'm # 2 or #3
       for that Mk III Hardtop already!




-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
   "66 Sprite
     WARNING! Driver only carries $20.00 in ammunition

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Mon Dec 31 17:33:39 2007
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 19:33:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Please define idiot...
Message-ID: <2B3AF8A6-9EE7-4D28-9B1F-90AD0E5A3F59@phillymgclub.com>

Interesting, I always thought LSD was supposed to do "SoMeThInG" But  
the Army never figured what
On Dec 31, 2007, at 8:00 AM, Jim Juhas wrote:

>  without LSD

-- 

Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Declare your Independence, Bring your MG to MG 2008
Valley Forge, PA June 26-29, 2008
http://mg2008.com

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lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Board Member at Large
Philadelphia MG Club



"I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've  
never actually known what the question is." - Douglas Adams

From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 31 17:36:37 2007
From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 16:36:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted
In-Reply-To: <47796CC6.2020605@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <290727.83000.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Frank,
   
  That certainly sounds like a better place to start. I've got a little bit of room at the front of the doors to move them. I'll start with that. Replacing A Pillar Skin will be enough of a job while teaching myself to weld, that I don't want to take on any more than necessary. Bugsy is in the garage as of this afternoon and hood and fenders are coming off for his new Rhinoplasty starting tomorrow. Thanks.

Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
  James Gruber wrote:
> Yeah that statement alone is scary with this list. 
> 
> I'm putting Bugsy into the garage for A Pillar skin work. 

So now that we all gave our opinions on foods, has anybody tried to 
offer help for Jim's doors?

Jim
Have you tried adjusting the doors? They move up, down, in, out at each 
hinge.
Loosen the bolts inside the door, and loosen the screws in the hinges.
I use some thin strips of wood to hold the door close while tightening 
the bolts. Keep upward pressure on the doors where they meet the B post 
because it's own weight will make it drop just a tad.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ



Jim Gruber
Bugsy '68 Sprite (future Bugeye in disguise)
Cincinnati, OH
       
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Mon Dec 31 20:28:41 2007
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 21:28:41 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted now OKRA
In-Reply-To: <000401c84c01$8163aa90$0501a8c0@MAIN>
References: <4779029C.16845.1714708@dmg.bossig.com>
	<000401c84c01$8163aa90$0501a8c0@MAIN>
Message-ID: <e98d88090712311928i2f94e761n1d38af25828d1cf5@mail.gmail.com>

Guy, I'd be working on our Sprite, if a certain "I take two months to think
about rebuilding the carbs you sent" lazy as fuck Yankee would get off his
ass and do something...

On 12/31/07, Guy Weller <guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I signed back on to "Spridgets" a few weeks before Christmas.
> Whilst I respect everyone's' rights to discuss any topic under the sun (or
> moon) I am disappointed with the lack of Spridget talk on this Spridget
> list.
> It isn't like it used to be on this particular list, way back.
> I know this is Cabin Fever Season for many but wonder if perhaps the more
> technical discussion has migrated to another list?
>
> Happy New Year!
>
> Guy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On
> Behalf
> Of Dave G.
> Sent: 31 December 2007 22:54
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted now OKRA
>
> What I miss (up here in the Pacific NW) is Smithfield ham with red-eye
> gravy with a sausage patty and SF Hash browns for a Sunday breakfast.
>
> On the other hand, maybe that's a good thing because I've had a triple-
> bypass <Grin>
>
> -
> Dave G, KK7SS
> '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Mon Dec 31 20:35:07 2007
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 21:35:07 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] New Engine oil change
In-Reply-To: <c78.23ca1391.34aad669@aol.com>
References: <c78.23ca1391.34aad669@aol.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090712311935x4cb210a6v73e3ddceedff282d@mail.gmail.com>

Did you remove your W E S L A K E cover and clean it as well????

On 12/31/07, Daniel1312 at aol.com <Daniel1312 at aol.com> wrote:
>
> Hi List,
>
> I decided that since the new engine in my Sprite cost me a small fortune
> (King's ransom if you're a royalist) I'd go with the oil change after a
> 100
> miles rather than wait for the full 500 miles.  The oil still looked
> pretty  clean
> when it came and there was some metal particles that drained out with  the
> oil.  The sump plug, which is magnetic, had really fine metal sludge
> on  it that
> wiped off.  In fact the oil looked a whole lot better than the old  that
> came
> out of the old engine before I pulled it.
>
> I decided NOT to change the filter at this point and will either change it
> at 500 miles or maybe wait for the full 1000.
>
> Regards and Happy New Year
>
> Daniel1312
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From pilotrob at msn.com  Mon Dec 31 20:45:13 2007
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2008 03:45:13 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Happy new year
Message-ID: <BAY116-DAV678B52DEEC5B289002905D4510@phx.gbl>

Happy New Year all. :)

CapBob

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Mon Dec 31 21:11:36 2007
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2008 04:11:36 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] New Engine oil change
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV10232F85A562086E7FA8A2C8510@phx.gbl>

C'mon, Daniel....

if you have metal particles in the oil (not unexpected under the circumstances) then
you have metal particles in the  filter. 

Why would you take the chance of circulating new oil through a contaminated filter, to possibly re-distribute some of the metal contained within through your expensive engine....for the relatively EXTREMELY minor cost of a new filter?

Happy New Year, mate.....

CapBob ("watchin' your six":)


-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Fornal
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 10:35 PM
To: Daniel1312 at aol.com
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New Engine oil change

Did you remove your W E S L A K E cover and clean it as well????

On 12/31/07, Daniel1312 at aol.com <Daniel1312 at aol.com> wrote:
>
> Hi List,
>
> I decided that since the new engine in my Sprite cost me a small fortune
> (King's ransom if you're a royalist) I'd go with the oil change after a
> 100
> miles rather than wait for the full 500 miles.  The oil still looked
> pretty  clean
> when it came and there was some metal particles that drained out with  the
> oil.  The sump plug, which is magnetic, had really fine metal sludge
> on  it that
> wiped off.  In fact the oil looked a whole lot better than the old  that
> came
> out of the old engine before I pulled it.
>
> I decided NOT to change the filter at this point and will either change it
> at 500 miles or maybe wait for the full 1000.
>
> Regards and Happy New Year
>
> Daniel1312
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From pilotrob at webtv.net  Mon Dec 31 21:28:19 2007
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2008 04:28:19 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] primers....thinking out loud
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV12789636F01CC15EF62379C8510@phx.gbl>

IMHO....

acrylic enamel with urethane hardner.....
can be buffed to a very high gloss and unlike clearcoats, very easy to "touch up".

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Mon Dec 31 21:38:59 2007
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2008 04:38:59 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] EFI progress
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV17FFCE7F670C4644A0ADF9C8510@phx.gbl>

Nothing like modern electronics. With your educated understanding, it dial in best fuel and timing for best performance, best economy, etc. Absolutely great stuff, Glen. :)

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From dwramsey at att.net  Mon Dec 31 22:07:42 2007
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 21:07:42 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] New Engine oil change
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV10232F85A562086E7FA8A2C8510@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20080101050904.65DAD1879EA@autox.team.net>

Let's assume that the filter caught whatever is in it now. Even if it is
full and starts to bypass what is already caught will stay in the filter. I
doubt the filter is full so changing it really isn't needed. Besides if a
new engine is throwing enough metal into the filter to clog it he will know
soon enough.
		Crash

C'mon, Daniel....

if you have metal particles in the oil (not unexpected under the
circumstances) then
you have metal particles in the  filter. 

Why would you take the chance of circulating new oil through a contaminated
filter, to possibly re-distribute some of the metal contained within through
your expensive engine....for the relatively EXTREMELY minor cost of a new
filter?

Happy New Year, mate.....

CapBob ("watchin' your six":)

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Mon Dec 31 22:24:09 2007
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 21:24:09 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted now OKRA
In-Reply-To: <4779029C.16845.1714708@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <880054.47211.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<002801c84bf7$2b9d3ef0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx>
	<4779029C.16845.1714708@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <441250190712312124wfb8ed9dw3604e5446e33e6a1@mail.gmail.com>

What is reallhy missing in the Pac NWi is:


   1. Pizza
   2. Tomato Pies (Hudson St.  Sorry Frank)
   3. Tastykakes
   4. Drakes cakes
   5. Pork Roll
   6. A decent selection of pretzels (Utz, Bachman, etc)
   7. Cheese steaks
   8. People who know how to yield


-g

On 12/31/07, Dave G. <dmg at bossig.com> wrote:

> What I miss (up here in the Pacific NW) is Smithfield ham with red-eye
> gravy with a sausage patty and SF Hash browns for a Sunday breakfast.
>
> On the other hand, maybe that's a good thing because I've had a triple-
> bypass <Grin>
>
> -
> Dave G, KK7SS
> '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA
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From dmg at bossig.com  Mon Dec 31 22:39:01 2007
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 21:39:01 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted now OKRA
In-Reply-To: <441250190712312124wfb8ed9dw3604e5446e33e6a1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880054.47211.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<4779029C.16845.1714708@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<441250190712312124wfb8ed9dw3604e5446e33e6a1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47796175.9375.2E3C78B@dmg.bossig.com>

On 31 Dec 2007 at 21:24, Bill Gilroy wrote:
>> People who know how to yield

Hey!! This *IS* the North-West we're talking about...
Any one think of a reason why this is so cheap??
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/car/518870032.html

-
Dave G, KK7SS
'65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Dec 31 23:05:30 2007
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 00:05:30 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910712311302x59cfe870gaf997f81ca7dfcac@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880054.47211.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<802499676.20071231100504@pacifier.com>
	<003801c84bd8$90867850$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<e98d88090712311138k6916a9ah4f27415011e44946@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0712311145n339dc919m56c0ee8c2275bbf7@mail.gmail.com>
	<e98d88090712311150g70796ce2q596975297f8339e3@mail.gmail.com>
	<8a336b9d0712311153l2533e25bh42c80cb19ede3caf@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0712311218t3a7c06cflb40bdd6716a50cdb@mail.gmail.com>
	<8a336b9d0712311238ha49b5f7x1cc0463ef44dd924@mail.gmail.com>
	<5f00d9910712311302x59cfe870gaf997f81ca7dfcac@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0712312205s2276d5e1q2268011d687180cc@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/31/07, derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I didn't think Bowling Green was garbage.


It's not.  It is an environmentally friendly leisure sport perpetrated by Al
Gore.
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Mon Dec 31 23:49:38 2007
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 00:49:38 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Happy new year
In-Reply-To: <BAY116-DAV678B52DEEC5B289002905D4510@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY116-DAV678B52DEEC5B289002905D4510@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <D43EA36B-FF63-4A48-87BA-72F936033ABE@comcast.net>

And from the South as well..  Happy New Year!

Lester

On Dec 31, 2007, at 9:45 PM, Robert E. Shlafer wrote:

> Happy New Year all. :)
>
> CapBob