From BCAH at aol.com Wed Aug 1 02:54:51 2007 From: BCAH at aol.com (BCAH at aol.com) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 04:54:51 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP Message-ID: Hello, Anyone know what is the latest thoughts on the lack of ZDDP in modern oils?High cam wear and all that. I have seen articles on it both ways.--------Bob C in KS ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour From RobertDuquette at Sympatico.ca Wed Aug 1 05:33:19 2007 From: RobertDuquette at Sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 07:33:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] VOTE - as many times as you can In-Reply-To: <01d001c7d3d1$69a42860$0401a8c0@midget> References: <20070731175856.TTTS8273.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca><011a01c7d3a0$196165b0$6401a8c0@Larry><004f01c7d3a9$fc083ac0$c1099356@tairswork><46AFCFB1.6000603@woozy.com> <01d001c7d3d1$69a42860$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <019901c7d42f$c269bf10$6601a8c0@RobertDuquette> But, if someone can write that script, I can tell you from a couple of hours of voting yesterday, that the CAPTCHA repeats ( and one doesn't work ( or I can't read it)). But how long would you be able to run the script before someone realized they were being blitzed? -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: July 31, 2007 8:18 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] VOTE - as many times as you can > The CAPTCHA (little doohickey with the distorted letters and numbers) > makes it difficult to script. Otherwise it would be a piece of cake..... Exactly as it was intended. OTOH, a nice little macro that flushed the cookies and refreshed the page, selected deathtrap and moved the focus to the entry line for the captcha would be convenient... _______________________________________________ robertduquette at sympatico.ca Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Aug 1 06:17:33 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 07:17:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap References: <20070723125808.OFHV18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <738338097.20070731200128@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <020001c7d435$f09dff30$0401a8c0@midget> > my technique (firefox) is to click on the link in > email. I have my cookies turned off!...vote, click link, close old > window, enter "gripka?" .. vote, click link..... Good call! I never noticed that obvious box to turn off cookies... You could trim it up a bit, however. Type in the captcha, tab then space to place the vote, F5 to refresh back to the main page, click on DB5 Devils (just kidding), click in the captcha blank and repeat. I coulda voted 3 or 4 times instead of typing this ;-) From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Aug 1 05:38:17 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 06:38:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP References: Message-ID: <01fd01c7d430$74d0d3f0$0401a8c0@midget> > Hello, Anyone know what is the latest thoughts on the lack of ZDDP in > modern oils?High cam wear and all that. I have seen articles on it both > ways.--------Bob C in KS The word as it filters down around here is that motor oil with a ratink of SL or higher has virtually no ZDDP content in order to enhance catalytic performance, etc. There are a couple oils that still have some, but it is such a small percentage of what they used to have that it might as well not be there at all. It is most important with a new engine, but it is still an issue after the engine has been broken in. For no, STP oil treatment happens to have the ZDDP additives in it, so the recommendation is to be sure to use STP. How much longer that will go on is anybody's guess. Anybody know the shelf life of STP? David Lieb From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Aug 1 06:30:28 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 8:30:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Message-ID: <20070801123028.YQDK26794.tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Current status: 3rd place 31.3% 30.9% DT = 29.3% That's what? About 400 votes behind? ( at approx. 20 votes per .1% ) From thcollin at mtu.edu Wed Aug 1 08:54:31 2007 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 10:54:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <60324o$lprfm@email.mtu.edu> At 04:54 AM 8/1/2007, BCAH at aol.com wrote: >Hello, Anyone know what is the latest thoughts on the lack of ZDDP in >modern oils?High cam wear and all that. I have seen articles on it both >ways.--------Bob C in KS Visit Dow Corning Automotive: http://www.dowcorning.com/content/auto/ and search for pdf documents on the subject of : Zinc dialkyl dithio phosphate. Don't use the abbreviation ZDDP. You should find over 70 documents which are for the most part readable, but technical in nature - lots of test data, charts and graphs. DCorning is big in producing Molycote products which is supposed to be an excellent friction reducer. A sneaky racer might put this in the engine, transmission and rear end and use moly based grease (BR2, I believe). The car would then go so fast that you would experience warp speed "time travel." Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From peter at nosimport.com Wed Aug 1 10:57:02 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 11:57:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070801115422.03579c30@mailbag.com> ... that anyone on this list should call this guy, but..... In Madison Wisconsin paper today: "Ferrari '79 308GTS Full service completed lasted fall always stored in heated & controlled garage, new interior, 45K invested will sell for 35K firm, if you don't have any money, don't call me" (608) 825-2782 " Anon From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Aug 1 11:10:12 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 11:10:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070801115422.03579c30@mailbag.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070801115422.03579c30@mailbag.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910708011010n38df6c38gba227fbe682424bc@mail.gmail.com> A lister should buy that. Then they will surely learn to appreciate the simplicity and low cost of Spridgets. Ferraris are cool, but for that kind of jack I'd look at an Elise. But, if you already have one, or if you look like Tom Selleck, go for it. Cheers, Derf From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Wed Aug 1 11:15:15 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 12:15:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910708011010n38df6c38gba227fbe682424bc@mail.gmail.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070801115422.03579c30@mailbag.com> <5f00d9910708011010n38df6c38gba227fbe682424bc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0708011015k47aa030jb91727c3cbd89939@mail.gmail.com> im going to call him just because he told me not to. On 8/1/07, derf wrote: > A lister should buy that. Then they will surely learn to appreciate > the simplicity and low cost of Spridgets. > Ferraris are cool, but for that kind of jack I'd look at an Elise. > But, if you already have one, or if you look like Tom Selleck, go for > it. > Cheers, > Derf > _______________________________________________ > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - Reduced! $875 From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Aug 1 11:16:06 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 13:16:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... Message-ID: <20070801171607.XQGA29719.tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> "don't have any money" is my middle name. > From: Peter C > > ... that anyone on this list should call this guy, but..... > > In Madison Wisconsin paper today: > > "Ferrari '79 308GTS Full service > completed lasted fall always stored in heated & controlled garage, > new interior, 45K invested will sell for 35K firm, if you don't have > any money, don't call me" (608) 825-2782 " > > > Anon > _______________________________________________ > robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Wed Aug 1 11:23:35 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 12:23:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... In-Reply-To: <20070801171607.XQGA29719.tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20070801171607.XQGA29719.tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0708011023x5f83a219q6c263ab027fd4d51@mail.gmail.com> I just called and left a voicemail offering to trade my mint condition bugeye sprite (with a few holes in the floorboard, natch) and say a thousand bucks, for that ferrari. On 8/1/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > "don't have any money" is my middle name. > > > From: Peter C > > > > ... that anyone on this list should call this guy, but..... > > > > In Madison Wisconsin paper today: > > > > "Ferrari '79 308GTS Full service > > completed lasted fall always stored in heated & controlled garage, > > new interior, 45K invested will sell for 35K firm, if you don't have > > any money, don't call me" (608) 825-2782 " > > > > > > Anon > > _______________________________________________ -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - Reduced! $875 From thcollin at mtu.edu Wed Aug 1 11:24:54 2007 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 13:24:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] MGTD For Sale Message-ID: <60313l$jbd72@email.mtu.edu> Here's a car that's a little more down to earth than the one Peter points out. . . MG TD: 1952, Green convertible w/Black top, needs restoring, $8900. (989) 859-6835. Classic&Antique Autos - Midland Daily News - 08/01/2007 I have no idea who the owner is, & have not seen the car - just saw the ad in the paper today. All I know is that the phone number is a cell phone. Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From hal at katemuir.com Wed Aug 1 11:38:08 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 10:38:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0708011023x5f83a219q6c263ab027fd4d51@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: HERESY!!!! "I just called and left a voicemail offering to trade my mint condition bugeye sprite (with a few holes in the floorboard, natch) and say a thousand bucks, for that ferrari." From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Aug 1 11:37:59 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 13:37:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... Message-ID: <20070801173759.HRGN9197.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> I was selling a bicycle. ( Clenaing out the garage. ) One guy responded. He showed up with no money and wanted to take the bike to go get the money. "Uh ... no". Then he showed up $10 short. "Uh ... no". "But, I really want it!" "So what is that to me?" > From: shelden3 at pldi.net > > Tell him you will give him 100.00 on pay day every month...seems that is > what I get when I advertise something anymore. I"m like does it say > Credit Union on my house??? > > > "don't have any money" is my middle name. > > > >> From: Peter C > >> > >> ... that anyone on this list should call this guy, but..... > >> > >> In Madison Wisconsin paper today: > >> > >> "Ferrari '79 308GTS Full service > >> completed lasted fall always stored in heated & controlled garage, > >> new interior, 45K invested will sell for 35K firm, if you don't have > >> any money, don't call me" (608) 825-2782 " > >> > >> > >> Anon > >> _______________________________________________ > >> robertduquette at sympatico.ca > >> > >> Edit your replies > >> > >> http://www.team.net/archive > >> > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > _______________________________________________ > > shelden3 at pldi.net > > > > Edit your replies > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Aug 1 11:39:13 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 13:39:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... Message-ID: <20070801173913.BRQU26794.tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Subject to inspection of his Ferrari, of course? > From: Flash. > Date: 2007/08/01 Wed PM 01:23:35 EDT > To: "Spridget List" > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... > > I just called and left a voicemail offering to trade my mint condition > bugeye sprite (with a few holes in the floorboard, natch) and say a > thousand bucks, for that ferrari. > > On 8/1/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > > "don't have any money" is my middle name. > > > > > From: Peter C > > > > > > ... that anyone on this list should call this guy, but..... > > > > > > In Madison Wisconsin paper today: > > > > > > "Ferrari '79 308GTS Full service > > > completed lasted fall always stored in heated & controlled garage, > > > new interior, 45K invested will sell for 35K firm, if you don't have > > > any money, don't call me" (608) 825-2782 " > > > > > > > > > Anon > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > -- > http://btdtracing.com > 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata > 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - Reduced! $875 > _______________________________________________ > robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Aug 1 11:52:58 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 11:52:58 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070801115422.03579c30@mailbag.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070801115422.03579c30@mailbag.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910708011052k3cd59e62l30a540d9cce8bf6@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I'm here to test drive your Ferrari. I brought a DVD of "Ferris Beuller's Day Off" for you to watch while I'm gone. I should be back in a few hours. Thanks. From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Wed Aug 1 11:54:18 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 12:54:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910708011052k3cd59e62l30a540d9cce8bf6@mail.gmail.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070801115422.03579c30@mailbag.com> <5f00d9910708011052k3cd59e62l30a540d9cce8bf6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0708011054k13f11401od8bfcd025588c9cd@mail.gmail.com> Went with the 15 year old reference huh? On 8/1/07, derf wrote: > Hi, I'm here to test drive your Ferrari. I brought a DVD of "Ferris > Beuller's Day Off" for you to watch while I'm gone. I should be back > in a few hours. Thanks. > _______________________________________________ \ -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - Reduced! $875 From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Aug 1 14:50:15 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 14:50:15 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0708011054k13f11401od8bfcd025588c9cd@mail.gmail.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070801115422.03579c30@mailbag.com> <5f00d9910708011052k3cd59e62l30a540d9cce8bf6@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0708011054k13f11401od8bfcd025588c9cd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910708011350i109b0b49u84b1fc4feca942ed@mail.gmail.com> Well, lately, Ferrari brings three things to mind: Magnum PI. Ferris Beuller (250 GT?) Eddie Griffin wrecking the Enzo and stating "......Brother can't drive" From lists at woozy.com Wed Aug 1 14:58:09 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 16:58:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910708011350i109b0b49u84b1fc4feca942ed@mail.gmail.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070801115422.03579c30@mailbag.com> <5f00d9910708011052k3cd59e62l30a540d9cce8bf6@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0708011054k13f11401od8bfcd025588c9cd@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910708011350i109b0b49u84b1fc4feca942ed@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46B0F3E1.5090102@woozy.com> And this joke I came across earlier today: A blonde who's down on her luck is walking through a luxurious neighborhood looking for odd jobs to do when she approaches a large house. She goes up to the house, rings the bell and the owner comes to the door. He asks the lady what he can do for her. The blonde tells him of her situation, that she is down on her luck and wants to know if he has any odd jobs that she could do. The man thinks about it for a second and then remembers that he has been wanting his porch painted. He asks the blonde if she paints? The blonde says, "Sure anything." "Well, I've been wanting my porch painted, how much would you charge?" the man replies. "I don't know, say $50 bucks." "Sounds good. Go ahead and get started." He closes the door and walks back inside. His wife asks him, "Who was at the door?" He tells her of the blonde and her situation and then told his wife that the blonde agreed to paint the porch for $50 bucks. The astonished wife says, "$50 bucks, but that porch goes the full length of our house and then some. It will be at least a few hours job. You really should pay her more." "But that's all she said she wanted, and anyway she's a dumb blonde!" 10 minutes later, they get a knock on the door. The man answers the door and the blone stands there and says, "All done." With a surprised look on his face, "I can't believe it, you're already done painting the entire porch." "Yes, and by the way it's not a porch it's a Ferrari." derf wrote: > Well, lately, Ferrari brings three things to mind: From wmgilroy at gmail.com Wed Aug 1 15:48:46 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 14:48:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wheels for the Spridget? Message-ID: <441250190708011448yc52c9aboea6bb2ea2488a158@mail.gmail.com> If only they would come in 13 inch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb3THwZjnHY -- Vote for Team Death Trap at http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx each day and vote for until Aug. 8th and forward this onto anyone who can help spread the word. From pdx.pete at verizon.net Wed Aug 1 15:55:39 2007 From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (pdxpete) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 14:55:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Ping: Mr. Gilroy and Bill L Message-ID: <00b101c7d486$b3703550$6d096f47@DBKF4T81> >From yesterday's Portland Craigslist: http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/pts/385992300.html MG Midget Sprite Fenders I have a set of 1973 midget fenders, radiator valliance and trunk lid. Needs some TLC to make nice. Has about 3 coats of paint on everything and could be nice when finished. $100 for everything. Dave 503-806-6666 Reply to: sale-385992300 at craigslist.org NFI, etc., etc. From pdx.pete at verizon.net Wed Aug 1 15:59:25 2007 From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (pdxpete) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 14:59:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] MK I Sprite Top Bows in Portland Oregon Message-ID: <00b801c7d487$3a54add0$6d096f47@DBKF4T81> >From today's Portland Craigslist: http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/pts/386907255.html MK I Sprite Top Bows - $35 One set top bows for bug eye sprite (they do not split in the middle). Please call my cell phone 503 475 1632. Thanks for looking Reply to: sale-386907255 at craigslist.org NFI, etc., etc. From thcollin at mtu.edu Wed Aug 1 16:06:12 2007 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 18:06:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wheels for the Spridget? In-Reply-To: <441250190708011448yc52c9aboea6bb2ea2488a158@mail.gmail.com > References: <441250190708011448yc52c9aboea6bb2ea2488a158@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <60313l$jct46@email.mtu.edu> Bill, Build your own for $37.50. http://www.ladyada.net/make/spokepov/index.html Not quite as versatile, but . . . At 05:48 PM 8/1/2007, Bill Gilroy wrote: >If only they would come in 13 inch. Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From wmgilroy at gmail.com Wed Aug 1 16:23:20 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 15:23:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wheels for the Spridget? In-Reply-To: <60313l$jct46@email.mtu.edu> References: <441250190708011448yc52c9aboea6bb2ea2488a158@mail.gmail.com> <60313l$jct46@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <441250190708011523j1db0e683r47b4467bfe2898e1@mail.gmail.com> Will that allow me to score with a gal in the car? That is the bar we need to meet. On 8/1/07, Timothy H. Collins wrote: > > Bill, Build your own for $37.50. > http://www.ladyada.net/make/spokepov/index.html > Not quite as versatile, but . . . > > At 05:48 PM 8/1/2007, Bill Gilroy wrote: > >If only they would come in 13 inch. > > Tim Collins > 1966 AH Sprite > -- Vote for Team Death Trap at http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx each day and vote for until Aug. 8th and forward this onto anyone who can help spread the word. From smarc at smarc.net Wed Aug 1 16:38:34 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 18:38:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wheels for the Spridget? In-Reply-To: <60313l$jct46@email.mtu.edu> References: <441250190708011448yc52c9aboea6bb2ea2488a158@mail.gmail.com> <60313l$jct46@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <46B10B6A.4060506@smarc.net> Hey now - only $10,000 on ebay... Marc Timothy H. Collins wrote: Bill, Build your own for $37.50. http://www.ladyada.net/make/spokepov/index.html Not quite as versatile, but . . . At 05:48 PM 8/1/2007, Bill Gilroy wrote: If only they would come in 13 inch. From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Aug 1 19:27:24 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 18:27:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910708011052k3cd59e62l30a540d9cce8bf6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <791614.68760.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Ferrari As a long standing list member, I respectfully ask that no one mention Ferraris for sale without warning. I've lusted for one since the day I heard a 365 with 6 webers at full throttle as an impressionable yute, and spent my first allowance on a Road and Track with a 512 Boxer on the cover. I think 308s are ridiculously cheap right now (yes, I know the cost of maintenance/repair; I also know they WILL appreciate as my demographic ages). I know "real" Foo-foos have 12 cylinders, but they are so cheap that if a guy sold off a few of his cheap 2-seaters, quit racing and sold his car trailer he could sorta afford one, and I don't need temptation to go down that path! Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC From mconn2 at bright.net Wed Aug 1 19:45:39 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 21:45:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... References: <791614.68760.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000601c7d4a6$d5413ab0$cb34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Ron, Buy one straight away. I double dog dare you! Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... >> Ferrari > > As a long standing list member, I respectfully ask > that no one mention Ferraris for sale without warning. > I've lusted for one since the day I heard a 365 with 6 > webers at full throttle as an impressionable yute, and > spent my first allowance on a Road and Track with a > 512 Boxer on the cover. I think 308s are ridiculously > cheap right now (yes, I know the cost of > maintenance/repair; I also know they WILL appreciate > as my demographic ages). I know "real" Foo-foos have > 12 cylinders, but they are so cheap that if a guy sold > off a few of his cheap 2-seaters, quit racing and sold > his car trailer he could sorta afford one, and I don't > need temptation to go down that path! > > Ron > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search > that gives answers, not web links. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mconn2 at bright.net Wed Aug 1 19:53:59 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 21:53:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... References: <791614.68760.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001901c7d4a7$ff3b45d0$cb34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Ron, ........ And whilst we're on the subject, why mention it in the first place. Whine, whine, whine............ I think about Caterham Sevens' all the time, but I don't go on about them or mention them on the List. It would be unseemly so to do. (I have it on good authority that selling my AN5 to buy one would upset the Austin Healey gods.) Either buy a Ferrari, or be quiet................! Oh, yes, and lust is one of the 7 (not Caterham) deadly sins. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... >> Ferrari > > As a long standing list member, I respectfully ask > that no one mention Ferraris for sale without warning. > I've lusted for one since the day I heard a 365 with 6 > webers at full throttle as an impressionable yute, and > spent my first allowance on a Road and Track with a > 512 Boxer on the cover. I think 308s are ridiculously > cheap right now (yes, I know the cost of > maintenance/repair; I also know they WILL appreciate > as my demographic ages). I know "real" Foo-foos have > 12 cylinders, but they are so cheap that if a guy sold > off a few of his cheap 2-seaters, quit racing and sold > his car trailer he could sorta afford one, and I don't > need temptation to go down that path! > > Ron > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search > that gives answers, not web links. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Aug 1 19:56:37 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 20:56:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... References: <791614.68760.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <03fe01c7d4a8$5ced2c70$6401a8c0@Larry> Ah, Ron. Can't say as I blame you. I've owned an American sports car (Corvette), Japanese (240 Z), German (Porsche 911) and now these little LBC's. I always swore I would never own an Italian sports car and have to deal with their temperamental little BS personalities. They are kind of like dating a beautiful woman -- a little bit of pain for every bit of pleasure (BTDT, too). But, as we talked about recently, get me around a Dino 246 GTS and my pulse goes way out of whack. That has to be one of the most beautiful cars I've seen. Don't know if I could hold true to my better judgment. It doesn't help that my better half always says, "If you like it that much, buy it". She's definitely an enabler. BTW, did you see that 512 BB at the BRIC? Pretty darned impressive performance. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... > Ferrari As a long standing list member, I respectfully ask that no one mention Ferraris for sale without warning. I've lusted for one since the day I heard a 365 with 6 webers at full throttle as an impressionable yute, and spent my first allowance on a Road and Track with a 512 Boxer on the cover. I think 308s are ridiculously cheap right now (yes, I know the cost of maintenance/repair; I also know they WILL appreciate as my demographic ages). I know "real" Foo-foos have 12 cylinders, but they are so cheap that if a guy sold off a few of his cheap 2-seaters, quit racing and sold his car trailer he could sorta afford one, and I don't need temptation to go down that path! Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC _______________________________________________ ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Aug 1 19:57:53 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 18:57:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... In-Reply-To: <001901c7d4a7$ff3b45d0$cb34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <164746.74878.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Michael Conn wrote: > ........ And whilst we're on the subject, why > mention it in the first place. To irritate you. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC From lists at woozy.com Wed Aug 1 20:11:07 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 22:11:07 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... In-Reply-To: <000601c7d4a6$d5413ab0$cb34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> References: <791614.68760.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <000601c7d4a6$d5413ab0$cb34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <46B13D3B.1050000@woozy.com> I can't remember if this video was posted to this list or not but the first Ferrari in the clip looks like it would be a blast to drive: http://tinyurl.com/3325xn Now here is a nice example another little red Italian car that has been the stuff of my car dreams for as long as I can remember: http://tinyurl.com/258emj Robert From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Aug 1 20:14:56 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 21:14:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Message-ID: <021401c7d4aa$ec3c4490$0401a8c0@midget> Derf, Much as I admire your tactical prowess, I think that there is a significant flaw therein. From what I have seen of their server, a last-minute attempt to blitz it would be more likely to resemble a denial of service attack and bring the thing to its knees, resulting in the victory of whatever team happened to be in the lead at that moment. It just does not seem to be very robust. After all, only one vote per person per day, right? How many friends could these losers have ;-)? I think it would be wise to be in the lead going into that last day; preferably an insurmountable lead, but at least a lead that will be a bit daunting to the opposition. In that spirit, I am happy to say thanks to any of you who were helping me this afternoon as we moved from third place up to first place with a lead of 2.1% over second place. Someone from X-Wing seemed to be striving to emulate us, but the best they were able to do was to hold their ground against our lead while slowly passing the erstwhile first-place Rust Rockets. I do feel sorry for the DB5 Devils... David Lieb Vote early and vote often From pythias at pacifier.com Wed Aug 1 20:28:08 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 19:28:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap In-Reply-To: <021401c7d4aa$ec3c4490$0401a8c0@midget> References: <021401c7d4aa$ec3c4490$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <36922358.20070801192808@pacifier.com> Hello David, today i turned my 16 year old son to the task, asking him to enlist HIS friends as well... since WE have been to a red bull flugtag, he knows the importance..... and will do his/their part as well! -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite * "It's become much bigger," said Tom with a groan. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Aug 1 20:37:13 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 21:37:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap References: <021401c7d4aa$ec3c4490$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <041101c7d4ae$09a7ac10$6401a8c0@Larry> I've got to agree with David. Also realize that, as the contest goes on and more votes are tabulated, it will require more and more votes to raise the percentage differences. IOW, early on it may have taken only a few votes to raise our percentage of the total. At the end, one percent of the total is likely to be one hell of a lot of votes. If we are way up at the end, we are likely to stay there with a good effort. And Bill Gilroy is going to owe all of us a lot of beer. ;-)) LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 9:14 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Derf, Much as I admire your tactical prowess, I think that there is a significant flaw therein. From what I have seen of their server, a last-minute attempt to blitz it would be more likely to resemble a denial of service attack and bring the thing to its knees, resulting in the victory of whatever team happened to be in the lead at that moment. It just does not seem to be very robust. After all, only one vote per person per day, right? How many friends could these losers have ;-)? I think it would be wise to be in the lead going into that last day; preferably an insurmountable lead, but at least a lead that will be a bit daunting to the opposition. In that spirit, I am happy to say thanks to any of you who were helping me this afternoon as we moved from third place up to first place with a lead of 2.1% over second place. Someone from X-Wing seemed to be striving to emulate us, but the best they were able to do was to hold their ground against our lead while slowly passing the erstwhile first-place Rust Rockets. I do feel sorry for the DB5 Devils... David Lieb Vote early and vote often From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Wed Aug 1 20:38:23 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 19:38:23 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... References: <791614.68760.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001a01c7d4ae$337a4e80$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Hi Ron, Did some brake line and hose work and got rid of some engine oil leaks on a 250GT SWB with the competition engine. You know, with 6 old fashioned dual carbs marching down the intake manifold!! He let me drive it after wards. Damn noisy machine, I've got to say. Never got it out of 2nd gear. But on the other hand this was a 5 speed car that would do 100 MPH in 2nd gear! I didn't though. But the engine sound is still fresh in my ears. Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... > > Ferrari > > As a long standing list member, I respectfully ask > that no one mention Ferraris for sale without warning. > I've lusted for one since the day I heard a 365 with 6 > webers at full throttle as an impressionable yute, and > spent my first allowance on a Road and Track with a > 512 Boxer on the cover. I think 308s are ridiculously > cheap right now (yes, I know the cost of > maintenance/repair; I also know they WILL appreciate > as my demographic ages). I know "real" Foo-foos have > 12 cylinders, but they are so cheap that if a guy sold > off a few of his cheap 2-seaters, quit racing and sold > his car trailer he could sorta afford one, and I don't > need temptation to go down that path! > > Ron From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Wed Aug 1 21:19:37 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 22:19:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap References: <021401c7d4aa$ec3c4490$0401a8c0@midget> <041101c7d4ae$09a7ac10$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <00c701c7d4b3$f5233bf0$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> You got THAT right, Larry!!! I voted so many times (TWO beers length) just to keep up with some nut voting for Rust Rockets!!! And i do NOT drick THAT fast!!!! BION!! From Skipkathryn at aol.com Wed Aug 1 22:17:53 2007 From: Skipkathryn at aol.com (Skipkathryn at aol.com) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 00:17:53 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Bumpers Message-ID: Howdy, Anyone know of a good product to treat the bumpers on a 76 Midget? Thanks. Skip 1976 Midget ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour From wmgilroy at gmail.com Thu Aug 2 00:19:32 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 23:19:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... In-Reply-To: <000601c7d4a6$d5413ab0$cb34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> References: <791614.68760.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <000601c7d4a6$d5413ab0$cb34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <441250190708012319q49e882b1gb270367833cdc18d@mail.gmail.com> That is a complete breach of dog dare etiquette! On 8/1/07, Michael Conn wrote: > > Ron, > > Buy one straight away. I double dog dare you! > > Michael From wmgilroy at gmail.com Thu Aug 2 00:21:37 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 23:21:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bumpers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <441250190708012321j71f71aa2p5e9b87fdd3834ec@mail.gmail.com> Impact wrench to get them off the car? On 8/1/07, Skipkathryn at aol.com wrote: > > Howdy, > > Anyone know of a good product to treat the bumpers on a 76 Midget? > > -- > > Vote for Team Death Trap at > http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx each day and > vote for until Aug. 8th and forward this onto anyone who can help spread the > word. From wmgilroy at gmail.com Thu Aug 2 00:22:59 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 23:22:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap In-Reply-To: <041101c7d4ae$09a7ac10$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <021401c7d4aa$ec3c4490$0401a8c0@midget> <041101c7d4ae$09a7ac10$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <441250190708012322x7e717a7ah7114205e2bf0d954@mail.gmail.com> I was thinking about that is afternoon. I am going to be buying a lot of pitchers over the next couple of years as I meet up with you voters. On 8/1/07, Larry Daniels wrote: And Bill Gilroy is going to owe all of us a lot of beer. ;-)) LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 9:14 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Derf, Much as I admire your tactical prowess, I think that there is a significant flaw therein. From what I have seen of their server, a last-minute attempt to blitz it would be more likely to resemble a denial of service attack and bring the thing to its knees, resulting in the victory of whatever team happened to be in the lead at that moment. It just does not seem to be very robust. After all, only one vote per person per day, right? How many friends could these losers have ;-)? I think it would be wise to be in the lead going into that last day; preferably an insurmountable lead, but at least a lead that will be a bit daunting to the opposition. In that spirit, I am happy to say thanks to any of you who were helping me this afternoon as we moved from third place up to first place with a lead of 2.1% over second place. Someone from X-Wing seemed to be striving to emulate us, but the best they were able to do was to hold their ground against our lead while slowly passing the erstwhile first-place Rust Rockets. I do feel sorry for the DB5 Devils... David Lieb Vote early and vote often _______________________________________________ wmgilroy at gmail.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Vote for Team Death Trap at http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx each day and vote for until Aug. 8th and forward this onto anyone who can help spread the word. From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Thu Aug 2 01:25:52 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 00:25:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070801115422.03579c30@mailbag.com><5f00d9910708011052k3cd59e62l30a540d9cce8bf6@mail.gmail.com><8a336b9d0708011054k13f11401od8bfcd025588c9cd@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910708011350i109b0b49u84b1fc4feca942ed@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <008d01c7d4d6$5cb1e240$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Not a 250GT, but a decent appearing "Lookalike" It was a kit car, a replicar, made in El Cajon California. Had a Ford V8 in it built by Randy Zoller of Santee. The windshield brackets were from a FIAT. Well, something had to be from the old country! They leased them for the movie and returned them very properly thrashed! The one that went through the garage end into the canyon, was a mock up, not a real car. Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "Flash." Cc: "Spridget List" Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... > Ferris Beuller (250 GT?) From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Thu Aug 2 05:26:48 2007 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 7:26:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... Message-ID: <11100755.1186054008666.JavaMail.root@wmvirt99> ---- Ron Soave wrote: Ferrari A couple of quick stories on the "F" cars... Right after high school a buddy and I drove my 65 Sprite from Cincinnati to LA and San Diego. Out there in liberalland we happened to stop by a Ferrari dealership just for grins. In 1971 a Dino 246 was $10 K and the full-blown luxury model was $13 K. I don't remember what the other models ran. They had a Sunbeam Tiger that they took in trade. It had 16 K on the clock, was absolutely perfect and could have been bought for $1600. The other F story is about a friend that found a pair of Ferraris in a barn along the Ohio river in Kentucky. He bought one for $15 K in 1969. It was a 1966 LWB 275 GT. He could have bought the other one that was next to it in the barn for the same price. He chose the 275 because it had a full interior. The other car only had a canvas driver's seat in it. It was a race car that he was told was Phil Hill's back-up car. It was a 250 GTO. Oh well... His 275 was on the cover of a magazine about 7 years ago. It had been fully restored and sold for 1.1 million. Kent 1960 Bugeye 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Aug 2 08:51:19 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 09:51:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap FOR MACS In-Reply-To: <441250190708012322x7e717a7ah7114205e2bf0d954@mail.gmail.com> References: <021401c7d4aa$ec3c4490$0401a8c0@midget> <041101c7d4ae$09a7ac10$6401a8c0@Larry> <441250190708012322x7e717a7ah7114205e2bf0d954@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <04C6B904-8529-408F-B8C1-2B42905C0CB6@comcast.net> For those of you on Macs... Open Safari Preferences go to Security tab Click on "Show Cookies" button Click on the "Expires" header You should see .redbullsoapboxusa.com Click to highlight Click on "Website Header" Scroll down until you find it. You will now see 6 cookies. Highlight all 6 cookies and click remove. DO NOT MOVE ANYTHING ELSE IN THIS WINDOW! Open new Safari window, vote, and get back to cookies window. Your 6 new cookies will be readily visible. Repeat. Lester > > Vote for Team Death Trap at > http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx each > day and > vote for until Aug. 8th and forward this onto anyone who can help > spread the > word. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Aug 2 08:58:05 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 09:58:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap for Mac In-Reply-To: <441250190708012322x7e717a7ah7114205e2bf0d954@mail.gmail.com> References: <021401c7d4aa$ec3c4490$0401a8c0@midget> <041101c7d4ae$09a7ac10$6401a8c0@Larry> <441250190708012322x7e717a7ah7114205e2bf0d954@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <289DB8C7-C5BC-4FFE-A683-6089E1EAA69F@comcast.net> Ok, the cookie to delete is actually named: SoapboxPCVoting Lester http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Aug 2 09:00:36 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 10:00:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap for Mac In-Reply-To: <289DB8C7-C5BC-4FFE-A683-6089E1EAA69F@comcast.net> References: <021401c7d4aa$ec3c4490$0401a8c0@midget> <041101c7d4ae$09a7ac10$6401a8c0@Larry> <441250190708012322x7e717a7ah7114205e2bf0d954@mail.gmail.com> <289DB8C7-C5BC-4FFE-A683-6089E1EAA69F@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4F73B812-6A3D-4B29-91E9-4F1741A1371B@comcast.net> We are up by one full tenth! Lester On Aug 2, 2007, at 9:58 AM, oldsaabguy wrote: > Ok, the cookie to delete is actually named: > > SoapboxPCVoting > > Lester > > http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Aug 2 09:01:25 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 11:01:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap FOR MACS Message-ID: <20070802150125.QSPY1592.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> The Apocalyptic Rust Rockets seem to have a push on right now. > > From: oldsaabguy > Date: 2007/08/02 Thu AM 10:51:19 EDT > CC: Spridgets List > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Death Trap FOR MACS > > For those of you on Macs... > > Open Safari Preferences > > go to Security tab > > Click on "Show Cookies" button > > Click on the "Expires" header > > You should see .redbullsoapboxusa.com > > Click to highlight > > Click on "Website Header" > > Scroll down until you find it. You will now see 6 cookies. > > Highlight all 6 cookies and click remove. DO NOT MOVE ANYTHING ELSE > IN THIS WINDOW! > > Open new Safari window, vote, and get back to cookies window. Your > 6 new cookies will be readily visible. > > Repeat. > > Lester > > > > > Vote for Team Death Trap at > > http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx each > > day and > > vote for until Aug. 8th and forward this onto anyone who can help > > spread the > > word. > _______________________________________________ > robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Aug 2 09:03:15 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 11:03:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap for Mac Message-ID: <20070802150315.QUIR1592.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> >From where I'm sitting, we're down by .2 ?? Are you voting for the right team? :) > From: oldsaabguy > > We are up by one full tenth! > > Lester > > > On Aug 2, 2007, at 9:58 AM, oldsaabguy wrote: > > > Ok, the cookie to delete is actually named: > > > > SoapboxPCVoting > > > > Lester > > > > http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx > _______________________________________________ > robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Aug 2 09:49:42 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 11:49:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] RHD dist cap ?!?! Message-ID: <20070802154942.NOGE7033.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Who da thunk it? http://www.tdcperformance.ca/ http://www.tdcperformance.ca/pdfs/rightangle.pdf From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Thu Aug 2 10:34:20 2007 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 12:34:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] RHD dist cap ?!?! Message-ID: <20466270.1186072460099.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I would have thunk it. A RHD Seven needs a special dist. cap. MC -----Original Message----- >From: Robert Duquette >Sent: Aug 2, 2007 11:49 AM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: [Spridgets] RHD dist cap ?!?! > >Who da thunk it? > >http://www.tdcperformance.ca/ > ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Aug 2 11:30:47 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 13:30:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] RHD dist cap ?!?! Message-ID: <20070802173047.PZAE19497.tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> I have a '65 RHD Sprite, albeit in pieces, though I did drive it for a few years, and I have a '67 RHD Midget and the thought never crossed my mind. I don't think it ever came up in RHD specific parts conversations either. > From: Mike/Donna Carpenter > > I would have thunk it. A RHD Seven needs a special dist. cap. > > MC > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Robert Duquette > > > >Who da thunk it? > > > >http://www.tdcperformance.ca/ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Aug 2 11:37:18 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 12:37:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] RHD dist cap ?!?! References: <20070802173047.PZAE19497.tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <008001c7d52b$c6f8c290$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] RHD dist cap ?!?! >I have a '65 RHD Sprite, albeit in pieces, though I did drive it for a few >years, and I have a '67 RHD Midget and the thought never crossed my mind. >I don't think it ever came up in RHD specific parts conversations either. It should. Otherwise the cap will hit the steering column. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Aug 2 11:42:12 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 12:42:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap References: <20070802150125.QSPY1592.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <008301c7d52c$75853550$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > The Apocalyptic Rust Rockets seem to have a push on right now. Death Trap 33.7% Apocalyptic Rust Rockets 32.7% X-Wing Racer 26.9% Big Pig Warriors 5.1% DB5 Devils 1.6% The rust rockets were pushing hard last night. It was all we could do to keep them at bay; when I got up this morning, they had forged ahead. Now we are ahead again and the poor X-Types are sliding. Gonna be a long six days. I suppose that they are using Pacific Time to close at midnight? Gonna be a lot of weight on the left-coasters... From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Aug 2 11:44:19 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 13:44:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] RHD dist cap ?!?! Message-ID: <20070802174419.QSUK18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> I'm going to have to take a closer look ( or try one ). :) > From: "David Lieb" > Date: 2007/08/02 Thu PM 01:37:18 EDT > To: "Spridget List" > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] RHD dist cap ?!?! > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] RHD dist cap ?!?! > >I have a '65 RHD Sprite, albeit in pieces, though I did drive it for a few > >years, and I have a '67 RHD Midget and the thought never crossed my mind. > >I don't think it ever came up in RHD specific parts conversations either. > > It should. Otherwise the cap will hit the steering column. > _______________________________________________ > robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Aug 2 11:56:49 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 12:56:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] RHD dist cap ?!?! References: <20070802174419.QSUK18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <008801c7d52e$81c0b310$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > I'm going to have to take a closer look ( or try one ). :) I do know that the Brits objected to the 123/Mini for Spridget use because of the top-entry cap. I imagine that is why the site now has instructions for modifying for side-entry use. From wmgilroy at gmail.com Thu Aug 2 12:01:30 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 11:01:30 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] RHD dist cap ?!?! In-Reply-To: <008801c7d52e$81c0b310$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <20070802174419.QSUK18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <008801c7d52e$81c0b310$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <441250190708021101t31037ddagb307716d69983d32@mail.gmail.com> I like side entry cap because one you can use a set of 7mm V-8 plug wires to create 2 set of Midget plug wires. -g On 8/2/07, David Lieb wrote: > > > I'm going to have to take a closer look ( or try one ). :) > > I do know that the Brits objected to the 123/Mini for Spridget use because > of the top-entry cap. I imagine that is why the site now has instructions > for modifying for side-entry use. > _______________________________________________ > wmgilroy at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Vote for Team Death Trap at http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx each day and vote for until Aug. 8th and forward this onto anyone who can help spread the word. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Aug 2 12:08:43 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 14:08:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] RHD dist cap ?!?! Message-ID: <20070802180843.EMSO13659.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> I don't have a 123/Mini dist and I'm sure that I can't afford one. I was thinking more along the lines of whether the same thing applied to the stock dist. and caps. I do have some old top entry caps around to try on if I ever get bored ... > > I'm going to have to take a closer look ( or try one ). :) > > From: "David Lieb" > I do know that the Brits objected to the 123/Mini for Spridget use because > of the top-entry cap. I imagine that is why the site now has instructions > for modifying for side-entry use. From lists at woozy.com Thu Aug 2 13:05:48 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:05:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... In-Reply-To: <11100755.1186054008666.JavaMail.root@wmvirt99> References: <11100755.1186054008666.JavaMail.root@wmvirt99> Message-ID: <46B22B0C.6060005@woozy.com> 5 Ferraris for 7 bucks: http://tinyurl.com/2b9sqq Robert From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Thu Aug 2 13:29:41 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 12:29:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Missouri motor done...? Message-ID: <000e01c7d53b$7978dfe0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Turbo Bugsy is back on the road and feels pretty good. Initial tuning drives go well and the only thing to work out so far is a tendency to stutter a bit at steady throttle settings. Ignition, maybe. Carburetion, probably. I've got to reconnect the O2 sensor and redial the carb. Putting in the stereo speakers forced the removal of the O2 guage and I'll need to either lay it on the passenger seat for temporary use or find a new place to mount it. Glen From wmgilroy at gmail.com Thu Aug 2 15:12:57 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 14:12:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Electric muscle cars Message-ID: <441250190708021412w33c67867sa87966b14253822c@mail.gmail.com> Check out http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118593442187584293.html?mod=hps_us_pageone -- Vote for Team Death Trap at http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx each day and vote for until Aug. 8th and forward this onto anyone who can help spread the word. From mconn2 at bright.net Thu Aug 2 16:16:02 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 18:16:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... References: <164746.74878.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000c01c7d552$b79b95d0$aeaeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> Ron, LOL. Great, I enjoyed that. You won't mention my selling the AN5 to get a Caterham Seven will you? I'm really getting quite concerned about the possibility of offending the Austin Healey god. Do you think you'll get one of those cars you like? Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... > --- Michael Conn wrote: >> ........ And whilst we're on the subject, why >> mention it in the first place. > > To irritate you. > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search > that gives answers, not web links. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Aug 2 16:42:27 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 16:42:27 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Carb Sync Tool $18 Message-ID: <5f00d9910708021542j5e3bb9cdk3a30bef3d199fe24@mail.gmail.com> NFI, but looked like something a lister could use: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=413729 From mconn2 at bright.net Thu Aug 2 16:43:50 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 18:43:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... References: <791614.68760.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <000601c7d4a6$d5413ab0$cb34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <46B13D3B.1050000@woozy.com> Message-ID: <001901c7d556$990a47c0$aeaeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> Robert, The Ferrari looks (apart from the color) and sounds like my AN5, don't you agree? Yes, the Alfa is beautiful. Michael From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Aug 2 17:14:57 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 16:14:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... In-Reply-To: <000c01c7d552$b79b95d0$aeaeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <389227.77997.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Michael Conn wrote: > You won't mention my selling the AN5 to get a > Caterham Seven will you? I'm Michael, Don't look at this. The owner is an SCCA national champ with probably the fastest A-Series engined Sprite in the world (with Peter C.'s adjustable shocks on it!), and he REALLY knows how to set up a car. Again, don't look: http://prodracing.com/prodcar/viewtopic.php?t=8065 Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Aug 2 17:36:59 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 18:36:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... References: <389227.77997.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001501c7d55e$05d7f670$0401a8c0@midget> > Don't look at this. The owner is an SCCA national > champ with probably the fastest A-Series engined > Sprite in the world (with Peter C.'s adjustable shocks > on it!), and he REALLY knows how to set up a car. > Again, don't look: > > http://prodracing.com/prodcar/viewtopic.php?t=8065 But Ron, the ad says it has a Zetec engine, not an A-Series. He doesn't say what rear axle he used to handle all that power... Or is this a different vehicle? From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Aug 2 17:47:53 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 16:47:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... In-Reply-To: <001501c7d55e$05d7f670$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <688337.35887.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- David Lieb wrote: > But Ron, the ad says it has a Zetec engine, not an > A-Series. > He doesn't say what rear axle he used to handle all > that > power... Or is this a different vehicle? He has the Sprite with A-Series motor, and the Cat 7 with Zetec. Without looking or asking, I'm certain Craig's got the appropriate rear axle in it! ____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ From type79 at ix.netcom.com Thu Aug 2 17:59:52 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 19:59:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... Message-ID: <25729376.1186099193000.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net> You guys can romance over the A-series all you want, I'll take the superlight. jay fishbein wallingford,ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ -----Original Message----- >From: Ron Soave >Sent: Aug 2, 2007 7:47 PM >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... > > >He has the Sprite with A-Series motor, and the Cat 7 >with Zetec. Without looking or asking, I'm certain >Craig's got the appropriate rear axle in it! From mconn2 at bright.net Thu Aug 2 18:06:08 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 20:06:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... References: <25729376.1186099193000.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <002401c7d562$18b7d2c0$aeaeadd1@YOURD28EB17757> Jay, If you ask me. they're just being petty. Jealous is what they all are. (I'm not like that. I can't afford it, but I think it's lovely.) Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... > You guys can romance over the A-series all you want, I'll take the > superlight. > > jay fishbein > wallingford,ct > http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Ron Soave >>Sent: Aug 2, 2007 7:47 PM >>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... >> > >> >>He has the Sprite with A-Series motor, and the Cat 7 >>with Zetec. Without looking or asking, I'm certain >>Craig's got the appropriate rear axle in it! > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Aug 2 18:19:45 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 17:19:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... In-Reply-To: <25729376.1186099193000.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <201921.21231.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- type79 at ix.netcom.com wrote: > You guys can romance over the A-series all you want His 7 doesn't have an A-Series. Point was, he knows how to tune a motor. His limited prep 1275 in his racecar was so fast that it spun THREE TIMES in the 2006 Runoffs and he still finished 2nd. Motor by George Bauchman at Midwest Motorsports. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Aug 2 18:29:00 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 19:29:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... References: <201921.21231.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003301c7d565$4a112800$0401a8c0@midget> > ... His limited prep 1275 in his > racecar was so fast that it spun THREE TIMES in the > 2006 Runoffs and he still finished 2nd. You do know how to find the most impressive stats, don't you? From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Aug 2 18:30:49 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 19:30:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... In-Reply-To: <201921.21231.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <25729376.1186099193000.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <201921.21231.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002001c7d565$8c5b5f00$a5121d00$@com> Ron would pretty much like to have either Billy Zoom's or George Bauchman's love child. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 7:20 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... --- type79 at ix.netcom.com wrote: > You guys can romance over the A-series all you want His 7 doesn't have an A-Series. Point was, he knows how to tune a motor. His limited prep 1275 in his racecar was so fast that it spun THREE TIMES in the 2006 Runoffs and he still finished 2nd. Motor by George Bauchman at Midwest Motorsports. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Aug 2 18:34:29 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 19:34:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... References: <25729376.1186099193000.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net><201921.21231.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <002001c7d565$8c5b5f00$a5121d00$@com> Message-ID: <003701c7d566$0dffb1f0$0401a8c0@midget> > Ron would pretty much like to have either Billy Zoom's or George > Bauchman's > love child. Hey, I thought Ron sold his Miata and got an Alfa ;-) From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Aug 2 18:37:37 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 19:37:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... In-Reply-To: <003701c7d566$0dffb1f0$0401a8c0@midget> References: <25729376.1186099193000.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net><201921.21231.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <002001c7d565$8c5b5f00$a5121d00$@com> <003701c7d566$0dffb1f0$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <002101c7d566$7f6c4150$7e44c3f0$@com> Yeah, but the effect lingers... -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 7:34 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... > Ron would pretty much like to have either Billy Zoom's or George > Bauchman's > love child. Hey, I thought Ron sold his Miata and got an Alfa ;-) _______________________________________________ wsthompson at thicko.com From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Thu Aug 2 19:22:06 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 20:22:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Carb Sync Tool $18 References: <5f00d9910708021542j5e3bb9cdk3a30bef3d199fe24@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <013001c7d56c$ba4d97a0$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> While the statement is true enough derf, I sure don't like the fact that the screw that holds the "indicator tube" on is NEW, it is NOT an "real" one, and no warrantee implied nor offered, and looks well used?? From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Aug 2 19:57:58 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 18:57:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... In-Reply-To: <002001c7d565$8c5b5f00$a5121d00$@com> Message-ID: <20922.2598.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'm holding out for Maynard Ferguson sticker on a parked race car. --- "Wm. Severin Thompson" wrote: ____________________________________________________________________________________ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Aug 2 20:21:11 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 19:21:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] I would NEVER suggest... In-Reply-To: <003301c7d565$4a112800$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <322034.91099.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- David Lieb wrote: > You do know how to find the most impressive stats, > don't you? As for the spin story, Bauchman told me, so I looked it up in the race reports: Race Eight: H Production Tom Feller of Clarkston, Mich., captured his third consecutive H Production title at the 2006 SCCA National Championship Runoffs. Craig Chima, of Akron, Ohio, and Don Barrack, of Waterloo, S.C., completed the podium. >From the drop of the green flag, it looked like the show belonged to the polesitter Chima, and his No. 8 Midwest Motorsports /Goodyear MG Midget. But, jaws dropped on lap four when Chima spun on his own in Turn Six. Feller didn't even flinch, as he powered his No. 71 W.Michigan Import/Goodyear Triumph Spitfire into the lead. Chima wasn't finished however; setting laptimes nearly a second faster than Feller, Chima chipped away at the gap his spin had cost him and caught Feller on lap seven. Chima regained the lead briefly, until he spun for a second time in Turn 14 and Feller again retook the lead. Feller left Chima behind, despite Chima's best efforts to make a comeback, which was marred by a third spin on lap 15. ----------------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ From abcoz at hky.com Thu Aug 2 20:42:15 2007 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 22:42:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Distributor question Message-ID: <007e01c7d577$e6d51fe0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Is there anyone out there that restores Lucas 25D distributors, and gets the advance curve just right? Or, is there a source for replacement springs (for the mechanical advance). I have a pile of old distributors, and could probably, by trial and error, come up with the combination of parts that gives me the advance curve I want for my basically stock 1275....but I don't want to make a career out of it. One of my Triumph buddies has a Sun distributor machine, but, I just don't have time to mess with it. I see APT has new 45Ds available, but does anyone know how the stock 45D is set up, as far as advance curve? Basically, I'd like to end up with a distributor curved like a '67. Thanks. Bud Osbourne From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Aug 2 21:14:06 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 20:14:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Distributor question In-Reply-To: <007e01c7d577$e6d51fe0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <915804.22366.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Bud Osbourne wrote: > Is there anyone out there that restores Lucas 25D > distributors, and gets > the advance curve just right? Bud, I haven't used him yet, but I'm told this guy is the best: http://www.advanceddistributors.com/ Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Aug 2 21:43:39 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 22:43:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Warm wires? In-Reply-To: <915804.22366.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <915804.22366.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ok, She runs better than ever (funny noises excepted) but tonight she had trouble with the blinkers, VERY slow , and I notice that the brown wire is very warm. Is now a good time to sell? Other input gladly accepted. Lester From dwoerpel at wi.net Fri Aug 3 00:23:22 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 01:23:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Message-ID: <46B2C9DA.3090301@wi.net> OK, we're up 34.2 to 34.1............I gotta go nite-nite. Keep it goin'! http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS From BCAH at aol.com Fri Aug 3 03:43:43 2007 From: BCAH at aol.com (BCAH at aol.com) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 05:43:43 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] fuel pump Message-ID: Hello, I have two 1275cc on the floor. One has a hole with a blanking plate for the use of a mechanical fuel pump and the other does not. What car had a 1275 and a mechanical pump? When the 1275 goes into the BI, I was planning on using the mech pump from the 948cc. Burlen carb e-mailed me that there are different part numbers for the different pumps. I was thinking they were really the same unit with the number simply reflecting the application.This weekend I'll drag out everything and measure but I was hoping someone had some knowledge about this.Any thoughts?----------------Bob C in KS ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour From CAWS52803 at aol.com Fri Aug 3 05:54:30 2007 From: CAWS52803 at aol.com (CAWS52803 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 07:54:30 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Message-ID: In a message dated 8/3/2007 2:23:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, dwoerpel at wi.net writes: _http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx_ (http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx) Its almost 8 am here in NC and I gave it one more shot. Tied right now, so give it all you got! Rudy Streng ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Fri Aug 3 06:03:46 2007 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 08:03:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] fuel pump Message-ID: <22271263.1186142626436.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I think that this question came up a few months ago. It was the early to mid '70s 1275, usually the 12V ones that have the fuel pump hole. They are usually blocked off. Mike C -----Original Message----- >From: BCAH at aol.com >Sent: Aug 3, 2007 5:43 AM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: [Spridgets] fuel pump > >Hello, I have two 1275cc on the floor. One has a hole with a blanking plate >for the use of a mechanical fuel pump and the other does not. What car had a >1275 and a mechanical pump? When the 1275 goes into the BI, I was planning on > using the mech pump from the 948cc. Burlen carb e-mailed me that there are >different part numbers for the different pumps. I was thinking they were >really the same unit with the number simply reflecting the application.This >weekend I'll drag out everything and measure but I was hoping someone had some >knowledge about this.Any thoughts?----------------Bob C in KS > > > >************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From peter at nosimport.com Fri Aug 3 11:23:00 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 12:23:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Deves rings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070803122109.03307730@nosimport.com> I just found out Deves is " an operating division of Mini Mania, Inc." Dang PPP From lists at woozy.com Fri Aug 3 13:10:13 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 15:10:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget MKIII transmission paint color In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070803122109.03307730@nosimport.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070803122109.03307730@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <46B37D95.4020302@woozy.com> I'm going to hopefully be swapping transmissions in my '70 Midget this weekend and I figured I'd paint the transmission before installing it. Does anyone know if the original color for the transmission is the same BMC green as the engine or is it silver? Thanks, Robert Weeks From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Fri Aug 3 13:22:22 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 14:22:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget MKIII transmission paint color In-Reply-To: <46B37D95.4020302@woozy.com> Message-ID: <200708031918.l73JIVFm018402@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> They didn't come from the factory with a baked on oil color? Sorry, couldn't resist. Chris 66MKIII -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Weeks Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 2:10 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Midget MKIII transmission paint color I'm going to hopefully be swapping transmissions in my '70 Midget this weekend and I figured I'd paint the transmission before installing it. Does anyone know if the original color for the transmission is the same BMC green as the engine or is it silver? Thanks, Robert Weeks From type79 at ix.netcom.com Fri Aug 3 13:43:10 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 15:43:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Midget MKIII transmission paint color Message-ID: <17284728.1186170190186.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Robert, I believe the trannys were always painted engine color. Also, for clarification, I believe by that time the color used would have been the Austin green as used on Austin-Healey 3000 motors and not the dark green used on the earlier cars. jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ -----Original Message----- >From: Robert Weeks >Sent: Aug 3, 2007 3:10 PM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: [Spridgets] Midget MKIII transmission paint color > >I'm going to hopefully be swapping transmissions in my '70 Midget this >weekend and I figured I'd paint the transmission before installing it. >Does anyone know if the original color for the transmission is the same >BMC green as the engine or is it silver? From lists at woozy.com Fri Aug 3 13:59:09 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 15:59:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget MKIII transmission paint color In-Reply-To: <17284728.1186170190186.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <17284728.1186170190186.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <46B3890D.8040909@woozy.com> Thanks Jay, I have some of the green engine paint from Moss. Not sure if it is the Austin green or not, they only list green for pre-72 and black from 72 on. It matches the green on the engine so I'll use that. Thanks again, Robert type79 at ix.netcom.com wrote: > Robert, > I believe the trannys were always painted engine color. Also, for clarification, I believe by that time the color used would have been the Austin green as used on Austin-Healey 3000 motors and not the dark green used on the earlier cars. > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ From dmg at bossig.com Fri Aug 3 14:04:32 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 13:04:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget MKIII transmission paint color In-Reply-To: <46B3890D.8040909@woozy.com> References: <17284728.1186170190186.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net>, <46B3890D.8040909@woozy.com> Message-ID: <46B327E0.13051.16658FF@dmg.bossig.com> Don't worry if it's a shade or two lighter. Hot oil darkens any paint... On 3 Aug 2007 at 15:59, Robert Weeks wrote: >> It matches the green on the engine so I'll use that. - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Aug 3 15:06:12 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 16:06:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Message-ID: <002c01c7d612$1f7c8c80$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Death Trap 36% Apocalyptic Rust Rockets 33.4% X-Wing Racer 24.5% Big Pig Warriors 4.6% DB5 Devils 1.5% Five days and ten hours from now ... David Lieb 1972 RWA Midget From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Aug 3 16:20:17 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 15:20:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Good cheap nut/bolt holder Message-ID: <153166.34101.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just a little helpful hint from the Spridget kitchen - I pulled a motor last night, and I usually use a little tray to keep the nuts and bolts sorted. A really good, cheap tray is a 12 place muffin tin, $2.96 from your local Wal-Mart type place. Carry on, Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Aug 3 16:23:52 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 17:23:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Good cheap nut/bolt holder References: <153166.34101.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <007901c7d61c$f9d172b0$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 5:20 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Good cheap nut/bolt holder Just a little helpful hint from the Spridget kitchen - I pulled a motor last night, and I usually use a little tray to keep the nuts and bolts sorted. A really good, cheap tray is a 12 place muffin tin, $2.96 from your local Wal-Mart type place. Carry on, Ron ======================= You can also buy sheets of magnetic material that you can cut to shape and insert in the muffin tin to keep that hardware where you put it. Heloise From dmg at bossig.com Fri Aug 3 17:16:21 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 16:16:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Good cheap nut/bolt holder In-Reply-To: <007901c7d61c$f9d172b0$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <153166.34101.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <007901c7d61c$f9d172b0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <46B354D5.24812.215F7BD@dmg.bossig.com> I have my mufin tray sitting in a magnetic tray I bought from (gasp!) Horrible Fright. The only problem is that, after a while, everything sticks together magnetically!!! But they also stick to the wrench ;^) On 3 Aug 2007 at 17:23, Larry Daniels wrote: >> A >> really good, cheap tray is a 12 place muffin tin, >> $2.96 from your local Wal-Mart type place. - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From froggi60 at gmail.com Fri Aug 3 17:28:18 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 16:28:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap In-Reply-To: <46B2C9DA.3090301@wi.net> References: <46B2C9DA.3090301@wi.net> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10708031628o7a58a056j6c8dac4b57febf5b@mail.gmail.com> I'm glad someone always sends the address.... On 8/2/07, David Woerpel wrote: > > OK, we're up 34.2 to 34.1............I gotta go nite-nite. > Keep it goin'! > > http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx > > Dave > 59 :{) > 59 MGA 1500 > 05 MCS > _______________________________________________ > froggi60 at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pvanwig at charter.net Fri Aug 3 18:43:35 2007 From: pvanwig at charter.net (Paul Van Wig) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 17:43:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for Key blanks In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10708031628o7a58a056j6c8dac4b57febf5b@mail.gmail.com> References: <46B2C9DA.3090301@wi.net> <2ad6c6b10708031628o7a58a056j6c8dac4b57febf5b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002301c7d630$7de851a0$6400a8c0@PaulsLaptop> Google tuned up an eBay site any others out there. Looking for split screen Minor Paul Van Wig Long Beach, CA From Miniac7 at aol.com Fri Aug 3 19:39:30 2007 From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 21:39:30 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] SU Carb Help Sought Message-ID: Listers, I am about to get my recently rebuilt 1275 back from the rebuilder and am almost ready to install it in a road car. I would like to ask for suggestions on needles and springs for the twin SU's. Here's the build spec: ..Rebuilt and fully balanced 1293 cc ..Lightened rods, and flywheel ..Swiftune SW5 cam ..Fully rebuilt 12G1316 Spridget smog head, ported, 3 angle valve seats, hardened valve seats, lead free, new valves, guides, and dual springs ..25 D dizzy using points/condenser ..LCB header to free flow Sportex tuned exhaust ..Twin 1.25 SU with K&N pancake filters, port matched intake manifold Based on this build spec what needle and spring is recommended? Once I move to a set of twin 1.5's, what would be the suggested needles and springs for that application? Thanks for any help you can offer. Howard Collins Virginia Beach, VA. ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Aug 3 20:36:24 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 21:36:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap References: <46B2C9DA.3090301@wi.net> Message-ID: <00bb01c7d640$40af74c0$0401a8c0@midget> Now I can't get to the website... Last I checked we were up by 3% or so. Looks like someone overwhelmed the server. > http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Aug 3 21:34:14 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 22:34:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Message-ID: <004601c7d648$550c3040$6401a8c0@Larry> Hey, I just got home and wanted to check the score. What's up? I can't get in. Were we ahead yet when it died? LAD From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Aug 3 21:36:52 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 22:36:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap References: <004601c7d648$550c3040$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <00d801c7d648$b2e65f60$0401a8c0@midget> We were up by a couple percent an hour or so before it died. Didn't someone suggest that this might happen? If anyone finds it back up again, be sure to let us know. From jlaird237 at cox.net Fri Aug 3 21:55:19 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 22:55:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for Key blanks References: <46B2C9DA.3090301@wi.net><2ad6c6b10708031628o7a58a056j6c8dac4b57febf5b@mail.gmail.com> <002301c7d630$7de851a0$6400a8c0@PaulsLaptop> Message-ID: <000701c7d64b$467b1070$6401a8c0@personal> http://www.triple-c.com/Austin_Healey_Keys.cfm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Van Wig" To: "'Spridgets'" ; ; Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 7:43 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for Key blanks > Google tuned up an eBay site any others out there. > Looking for split screen Minor > Paul Van Wig > Long Beach, CA > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.2/933 - Release Date: 8/2/2007 > 2:22 PM From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Aug 3 21:56:43 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 22:56:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap References: <004601c7d648$550c3040$6401a8c0@Larry> <00d801c7d648$b2e65f60$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <007001c7d64b$79329d80$6401a8c0@Larry> Probably one of those apocalyptic guys with the rusty rockets that broke it. Use 'em or lose 'em. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Death Trap We were up by a couple percent an hour or so before it died. Didn't someone suggest that this might happen? If anyone finds it back up again, be sure to let us know. _______________________________________________ ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pythias at pacifier.com Fri Aug 3 22:14:29 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 21:14:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] SEBRING hardtop!!! Message-ID: <1212319074.20070803211429@pacifier.com> Hello Spridgets, http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-MIDGET-SEBRING-HARDTOP-GREAT-PRICE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33652QQihZ019QQitemZ290145996564QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW i want it, but "local pick-up" only -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite "the red thing" (HAN8L 49403) * "We're off to Scotland," said Tom clandestinely. From dwoerpel at wi.net Fri Aug 3 23:42:52 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 00:42:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10708031628o7a58a056j6c8dac4b57febf5b@mail.gmail.com> References: <46B2C9DA.3090301@wi.net> <2ad6c6b10708031628o7a58a056j6c8dac4b57febf5b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46B411DC.8010706@wi.net> 1230am and still down. What did you guys do during the day???!! This means we win!! Right!!! ok maybe not quite yet. http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx > > > Dave > 59 :{) > 59 MGA 1500 > 05 MCS From wmgilroy at gmail.com Sat Aug 4 00:05:07 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 23:05:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap In-Reply-To: <46B411DC.8010706@wi.net> References: <46B2C9DA.3090301@wi.net> <2ad6c6b10708031628o7a58a056j6c8dac4b57febf5b@mail.gmail.com> <46B411DC.8010706@wi.net> Message-ID: <441250190708032305m3f5c50dbn7831198b28b943b6@mail.gmail.com> Seems to be back up 11 PM PDT. I have to thank you guys for being all over this. First round is on me as I meet up with you guys over the next few years. -g On 8/3/07, David Woerpel wrote: > > 1230am and still down. What did you guys do during the day???!! This > means we win!! Right!!! ok maybe not quite yet. > > http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx > > > > > > Dave > > 59 :{) > > 59 MGA 1500 > > 05 MCS > _______________________________________________ > wmgilroy at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Vote for Team Death Trap at http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx each day and vote for until Aug. 8th and forward this onto anyone who can help spread the word. From dwoerpel at wi.net Sat Aug 4 00:32:00 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 01:32:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap In-Reply-To: <441250190708032305m3f5c50dbn7831198b28b943b6@mail.gmail.com> References: <46B2C9DA.3090301@wi.net> <2ad6c6b10708031628o7a58a056j6c8dac4b57febf5b@mail.gmail.com> <46B411DC.8010706@wi.net> <441250190708032305m3f5c50dbn7831198b28b943b6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46B41D60.3060501@wi.net> Bill Gilroy wrote: > Seems to be back up 11 PM PDT. I have to thank you guys for being all > over this. First round is on me as I meet up with you guys over the > next few years. > > -g > Huh? 0129am CDT and it's not loading here. Too much cheese here in Wisconsin. I even got rid of the cookie...also ate a cookie! Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Aug 4 01:23:51 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 01:23:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] SU Carb Help Sought In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910708040023i35753819i1b93c81a0f5a3ec8@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Unless your are determined to have twins, I would consider a single HIF6 or a Weber 45. Either way I would opt for a better intake. Also, don't forget the springs if you are using SUs. Needle, dashpot oil, and spring all play a part in the symphony that is the SU carb. Cheers, Derf From Miniac7 at aol.com Sat Aug 4 04:35:02 2007 From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 06:35:02 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] SU Carb Help Sought Message-ID: Derf, I'm an old fashioned twin carb guy a I'm stickin' to my guns on that. Which springs to use is also a part of my initial question. I typically use standard SU dashpot oil and never found a reason to change from that. Once this engine is installed and de-bugged I plan to put in on a rolling road chassis dyno with the HS2's and do some base line testing. The major thing will be to switch it over to the HS4's while on the rollers to do a direct comparison between the two set-ups. Thanks for your input, Howard ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour From mdmyers_ct at juno.com Sat Aug 4 06:44:15 2007 From: mdmyers_ct at juno.com (Michael D Myers) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 08:44:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] looking for a project? Message-ID: <20070804.084415.2364.0.mdmyers_ct@juno.com> 1964 Sprite project on Hartford craigslist (NFI): http://hartford.craigslist.org/car/388256861.html Mike Myers From lbcs at embarqmail.com Sat Aug 4 06:59:58 2007 From: lbcs at embarqmail.com (Bill Miller (LBCs)) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 08:59:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap In-Reply-To: <46B41D60.3060501@wi.net> References: <46B2C9DA.3090301@wi.net> <2ad6c6b10708031628o7a58a056j6c8dac4b57febf5b@mail.gmail.com> <46B411DC.8010706@wi.net><441250190708032305m3f5c50dbn7831198b28b943b6@mail.gmail.com> <46B41D60.3060501@wi.net> Message-ID: <001001c7d697$5d3dde90$0200a8c0@bills> I think you guys broke it.... It won't load, gives a .net error From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Aug 4 07:03:47 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 08:03:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap References: <46B2C9DA.3090301@wi.net><2ad6c6b10708031628o7a58a056j6c8dac4b57febf5b@mail.gmail.com><46B411DC.8010706@wi.net><441250190708032305m3f5c50dbn7831198b28b943b6@mail.gmail.com><46B41D60.3060501@wi.net> <001001c7d697$5d3dde90$0200a8c0@bills> Message-ID: <00fb01c7d697$e5d202e0$0401a8c0@midget> >I think you guys broke it.... > It won't load, gives a .net error Well, we were certainly trying hard enough. I was voting 6 to 7 times per minute myself... From wsthompson at thicko.com Sat Aug 4 07:40:49 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 08:40:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone near Allenton, or Philadelphia, PA? Message-ID: <001101c7d69d$199ede40$4cdc9ac0$@com> I'm looking for someone that lives somewhere near Allenton or Philadelphia, PA that would be willing to pick up a hardtop, and take it to Greyhound and ship it for me.. Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From dwoerpel at wi.net Sat Aug 4 08:51:52 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 09:51:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap In-Reply-To: <00fb01c7d697$e5d202e0$0401a8c0@midget> References: <46B2C9DA.3090301@wi.net><2ad6c6b10708031628o7a58a056j6c8dac4b57febf5b@mail.gmail.com><46B411DC.8010706@wi.net><441250190708032305m3f5c50dbn7831198b28b943b6@mail.gmail.com><46B41D60.3060501@wi.net> <001001c7d697$5d3dde90$0200a8c0@bills> <00fb01c7d697$e5d202e0$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <46B49288.6010702@wi.net> OK it was */948/* am CDT when I started this...so I HAD to write! Still down. http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx Dave Woerpel 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS David Lieb wrote: >> I think you guys broke it.... >> It won't load, gives a .net error >> > > Well, we were certainly trying hard enough. I was voting 6 to 7 times per > minute myself... From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Aug 4 09:09:25 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 10:09:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap References: <46B2C9DA.3090301@wi.net><2ad6c6b10708031628o7a58a056j6c8dac4b57febf5b@mail.gmail.com><46B411DC.8010706@wi.net><441250190708032305m3f5c50dbn7831198b28b943b6@mail.gmail.com><46B41D60.3060501@wi.net><001001c7d697$5d3dde90$0200a8c0@bills><00fb01c7d697$e5d202e0$0401a8c0@midget> <46B49288.6010702@wi.net> Message-ID: <00d201c7d6a9$72c8d550$6401a8c0@Larry> Geez, I took the wife out for dinner last night -- I was only gone a few hours -- and you guys broke it while I was gone. You're like a bunch of kids. You can't be trusted alone. ;-)) LAD ================================= OK it was */948/* am CDT when I started this...so I HAD to write! Still down. http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx Dave Woerpel 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS David Lieb wrote: >> I think you guys broke it.... >> It won't load, gives a .net error >> > > Well, we were certainly trying hard enough. I was voting 6 to 7 times per > minute myself... From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Sat Aug 4 10:15:39 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 11:15:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap References: <46B2C9DA.3090301@wi.net><2ad6c6b10708031628o7a58a056j6c8dac4b57febf5b@mail.gmail.com><46B411DC.8010706@wi.net><441250190708032305m3f5c50dbn7831198b28b943b6@mail.gmail.com><46B41D60.3060501@wi.net><001001c7d697$5d3dde90$0200a8c0@bills><00fb01c7d697$e5d202e0$0401a8c0@midget><46B49288.6010702@wi.net> <00d201c7d6a9$72c8d550$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <009001c7d6b2$b33c8880$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> See, had you spent MONEY on LBCs or bought another one....... From wmgilroy at gmail.com Sat Aug 4 10:59:16 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 09:59:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap In-Reply-To: <46B41D60.3060501@wi.net> References: <46B2C9DA.3090301@wi.net> <2ad6c6b10708031628o7a58a056j6c8dac4b57febf5b@mail.gmail.com> <46B411DC.8010706@wi.net> <441250190708032305m3f5c50dbn7831198b28b943b6@mail.gmail.com> <46B41D60.3060501@wi.net> Message-ID: <441250190708040959g68323269mf2abd544e45429f3@mail.gmail.com> You are right, it is still down, not sure why it loaded once for me. Still down at 10 AM PDT. -g On 8/3/07, David Woerpel wrote: > > Bill Gilroy wrote: > > Seems to be back up 11 PM PDT. I have to thank you guys for being all > > over this. First round is on me as I meet up with you guys over the > > next few years. > > > > -g > > > Huh? 0129am CDT and it's not loading here. Too much cheese here in > Wisconsin. I even got rid of the cookie...also ate a cookie! > > Dave > 59 :{) > 59 MGA 1500 > 05 MCS > _______________________________________________ > wmgilroy at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Vote for Team Death Trap at http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx each day and vote for until Aug. 8th and forward this onto anyone who can help spread the word. From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Aug 4 11:01:52 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 11:01:52 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap In-Reply-To: <441250190708040959g68323269mf2abd544e45429f3@mail.gmail.com> References: <46B2C9DA.3090301@wi.net> <2ad6c6b10708031628o7a58a056j6c8dac4b57febf5b@mail.gmail.com> <46B411DC.8010706@wi.net> <441250190708032305m3f5c50dbn7831198b28b943b6@mail.gmail.com> <46B41D60.3060501@wi.net> <441250190708040959g68323269mf2abd544e45429f3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910708041001r6be6af30i3554d2394aa0de39@mail.gmail.com> They are probably investigating the obvious cheating. From wmgilroy at gmail.com Sat Aug 4 11:05:07 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 10:05:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910708041001r6be6af30i3554d2394aa0de39@mail.gmail.com> References: <46B2C9DA.3090301@wi.net> <2ad6c6b10708031628o7a58a056j6c8dac4b57febf5b@mail.gmail.com> <46B411DC.8010706@wi.net> <441250190708032305m3f5c50dbn7831198b28b943b6@mail.gmail.com> <46B41D60.3060501@wi.net> <441250190708040959g68323269mf2abd544e45429f3@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910708041001r6be6af30i3554d2394aa0de39@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <441250190708041005v4e819f75k4e7ea0cc2706fca0@mail.gmail.com> Every weekend the rust rockets surge pass us and it takes until about Wed to catch up and pass them. Now there is not a chance of them passing us if this keeps up. Regards, Hanging Chad :-) On 8/4/07, derf wrote: > > They are probably investigating the obvious cheating. > -- Vote for Team Death Trap at http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx each day and vote for until Aug. 8th and forward this onto anyone who can help spread the word. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Aug 4 11:16:01 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 12:16:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap References: <46B2C9DA.3090301@wi.net><2ad6c6b10708031628o7a58a056j6c8dac4b57febf5b@mail.gmail.com><46B411DC.8010706@wi.net><441250190708032305m3f5c50dbn7831198b28b943b6@mail.gmail.com><46B41D60.3060501@wi.net><441250190708040959g68323269mf2abd544e45429f3@mail.gmail.com><5f00d9910708041001r6be6af30i3554d2394aa0de39@mail.gmail.com> <441250190708041005v4e819f75k4e7ea0cc2706fca0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <011701c7d6bb$21fc9be0$0401a8c0@midget> >> They are probably investigating the obvious cheating. over 500 votes from one ip address in under ten minutes? Why would you think there was any cheating going on? From mark at nashvilletn.org Sat Aug 4 11:29:07 2007 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 12:29:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Seat Backs Message-ID: <029f01c7d6bc$f8907180$0600a8c0@Dell9200> I am in the process of getting new upholstery made for my Bugeye and today I removed the old vinyl and padding from the seat backs. On one back at the bottom front where the hinge bolt goes through I have a lot of RUST. The rest of the back is solid but I need to repair the area where the hinge is. It looks like it is just the outer layer that is about gone on one side. It is only the area between the inner panel and the outside edge where the single layer of steel is sandwiched on the outside. It looks like I have the choice of cutting the outside layer off and matching the inside curve with a grinder or making an new piece and having it welded to the outside of the frame. Time is of the essence, anybody else been there? Here is a link to a picture of my problem of the day! http://www.nashvilletn.org/Bugeye/back.jpg Mark Nashville http://www.arrestmered.com From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Aug 4 11:35:22 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 10:35:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Seat Backs In-Reply-To: <029f01c7d6bc$f8907180$0600a8c0@Dell9200> Message-ID: > Time is of the essence, anybody else been there? Cut out the old, MIG in the new. I always takes less time to do it right once. BZ From mark at nashvilletn.org Sat Aug 4 14:43:18 2007 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 15:43:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Seat Backs References: <029f01c7d6bc$f8907180$0600a8c0@Dell9200> Message-ID: <000601c7d6d8$1790e400$0600a8c0@Dell9200> Thanks Guys, You spurred me on, 2 hours with some tin snips and a Mapp Gas torch (that's all I got at home) and the new piece of steel is brazed on. It's not pretty but it's solid and will be covered up anyway. Off to the sandblaster tomorrow. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 12:29 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Seat Backs I am in the process of getting new upholstery made for my Bugeye and today I removed the old vinyl and padding from the seat backs. On one back at the bottom front where the hinge bolt goes through I have a lot of RUST. The rest of the back is solid but I need to repair the area where the hinge is. It looks like it is just the outer layer that is about gone on one side. It is only the area between the inner panel and the outside edge where the single layer of steel is sandwiched on the outside. It looks like I have the choice of cutting the outside layer off and matching the inside curve with a grinder or making an new piece and having it welded to the outside of the frame. Time is of the essence, anybody else been there? Here is a link to a picture of my problem of the day! http://www.nashvilletn.org/Bugeye/back.jpg Mark Nashville http://www.arrestmered.com _______________________________________________ From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sat Aug 4 14:46:40 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 13:46:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Panel Light Sw Set Screw Message-ID: <1e8c0a52350a4c5e0a70c10a.20070804134640.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Anybody out there got a broken panel light switch so they might part with one of the brass set screws? I just received a nice panel light switch I won on Ebay for a good price, but one of the set screws is missing. At least anyone know what size thread it is and where I can buy a modern replacement? Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Aug 4 16:29:43 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 18:29:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Panel Light Sw Set Screw In-Reply-To: <1e8c0a52350a4c5e0a70c10a.20070804134640.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <1e8c0a52350a4c5e0a70c10a.20070804134640.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <46B4FDD7.9000402@comcast.net> rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: > Anybody out there got a broken panel light switch so they might part with > one of the brass set screws? Mike Not positive but I think the lugs are 8/32s. I picked up a few at the local hardware store (brass) for the wiper switch lugs on the 58. I know they are NOT 10/32. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From wolf.brent at gmail.com Sat Aug 4 19:07:56 2007 From: wolf.brent at gmail.com (Brent Wolf) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 21:07:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - PT Cruiser A/C Message-ID: <62b83300708041807u250a22a9h19405da5eee4505f@mail.gmail.com> List, Sorry for this non-LBC question, however. My wifes 1992 PT Cruisers A/C has quit blowing cold air. Symptoms are: compressor cycles relatively often, the tubing/hoses are ice cold, however, the air blowing into the car is warm. I am thinking something with the controls because 1) turn the temperature control to hot and it blows hot, hot air. Back to cold and it blows warm but not one bit of cold. 2) The control to change from outside air to inside recirculation does not seem to do anything. No change in air flow like I get in my chevy, nothing. Something tells me I have to take the entire dash out to find this - Anyone with any insite would be greatly appreciated. TIA Brent 71 Midget From pythias at pacifier.com Sat Aug 4 19:14:59 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 18:14:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap In-Reply-To: <441250190708040959g68323269mf2abd544e45429f3@mail.gmail.com> References: <46B2C9DA.3090301@wi.net> <2ad6c6b10708031628o7a58a056j6c8dac4b57febf5b@mail.gmail.com> <46B411DC.8010706@wi.net> <441250190708032305m3f5c50dbn7831198b28b943b6@mail.gmail.com> <46B41D60.3060501@wi.net> <441250190708040959g68323269mf2abd544e45429f3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <71762695.20070804181459@pacifier.com> Hello Bill, my guess is that someone tried not just to stack the deck, (us?!!) but tried to write a script to vote automatically... my son said he had a program........ but didn't know how to make it read the "captcha".... but if he did he would have used it... i asked him to ask HIS friends to vote... .. of course the fact that any number of listers were also voting, uh, beyond the scope of the rules, and the "loosers" trying whatever THEY could (we,) just trying to keep up with THOSE CHEATING DOGS )... we'll ALL keep trying tho... hey weren't we up by two or three percent when it crashed out? -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite * "So only one person arrived at the party before I did?" Tom second-guessed. From pythias at pacifier.com Sat Aug 4 19:25:25 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 18:25:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap In-Reply-To: <441250190708032305m3f5c50dbn7831198b28b943b6@mail.gmail.com> References: <46B2C9DA.3090301@wi.net> <2ad6c6b10708031628o7a58a056j6c8dac4b57febf5b@mail.gmail.com> <46B411DC.8010706@wi.net> <441250190708032305m3f5c50dbn7831198b28b943b6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1344401571.20070804182525@pacifier.com> Hello Bill, just tried an anonymizer in case we who had been multiple voting had been blocked.. they are really DOWN, not just blocking us cheatin' dogs! -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite * "I need an injection," Tom pleaded in vain. From wsthompson at thicko.com Sat Aug 4 20:14:37 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 21:14:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] somewhere at a bar in Wisco Message-ID: <000501c7d706$61d0fbd0$2572f370$@com> http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/2606/image001xs9.gif Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From shelden3 at pldi.net Sat Aug 4 20:19:09 2007 From: shelden3 at pldi.net (Charlie Shelden) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 21:19:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] somewhere at a bar in Wisco References: <000501c7d706$61d0fbd0$2572f370$@com> Message-ID: <001001c7d707$020d08a0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> Actually that would be at a club in College Station, Texas home of the Aggies........ Charlie Boomer Sooner BABY! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: "'Team Thicko'" ; "'Spridgets'" Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 9:14 PM Subject: [Spridgets] somewhere at a bar in Wisco > http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/2606/image001xs9.gif > > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1802 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Sat Aug 4 20:25:37 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 21:25:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] somewhere at a bar in Wisco In-Reply-To: <000501c7d706$61d0fbd0$2572f370$@com> Message-ID: <200708050223.l752NV4X025362@ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com> Hey now, just because the State Fair is in town...too bad she didn't make the cut. There are nicer ones here this week. Chris 66MKIII Milwaukee/Brookfield, WI -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Wm. Severin Thompson Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 9:15 PM To: 'Team Thicko'; 'Spridgets' Subject: [Spridgets] somewhere at a bar in Wisco http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/2606/image001xs9.gif Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii<2ad6c6b10708031628o7a58a056j6c8dac4b57febf5b@mail.gmail.com><46B411DC.8010706@wi.net><441250190708032305m3f5c50dbn7831198b28b943b6@mail.gmail.com> <1344401571.20070804182525@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <011a01c7d70d$47fd5580$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill L" Hello Bill, just tried an anonymizer in case we who had been multiple voting had been blocked.. they are really DOWN, not just blocking us cheatin' dogs! -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite * "I need an injection," Tom pleaded in vain. =============================== Gee, I hope they don't invalidate the contest. I'd hate to think I did all that cheating in vain. LAD From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Sat Aug 4 21:57:59 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 22:57:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] somewhere at a bar in Wisco In-Reply-To: <000501c7d706$61d0fbd0$2572f370$@com> References: <000501c7d706$61d0fbd0$2572f370$@com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0708042057i15a8943ao1be769266d15486e@mail.gmail.com> This reminds me of when Seinfeld complains about his friend converting to judaism for the jokes. Did you move to Wisconsin just so you could make abysmal farm-redneck jokes? On 8/4/07, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/2606/image001xs9.gif > > > > > > Wm. Severin Thompson > > ~iii > > > wsthompson at thicko.com > > www.thicko.com > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] > >> -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - Reduced! $875 From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Sat Aug 4 22:09:03 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 23:09:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] somewhere at a bar in Wisco References: <000501c7d706$61d0fbd0$2572f370$@com> <8a336b9d0708042057i15a8943ao1be769266d15486e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <019b01c7d716$5c5587b0$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> You where HATCHED there, Flash. Crawl back in you Manhatten. From dwoerpel at wi.net Sat Aug 4 22:53:46 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 23:53:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] somewhere at a bar in Wisco In-Reply-To: <000501c7d706$61d0fbd0$2572f370$@com> References: <000501c7d706$61d0fbd0$2572f370$@com> Message-ID: <46B557DA.6020301@wi.net> Hey! That's in one of your outbuildings Flounder! You auditioning entertainment for the next Flounder Fest? I think it's step down from Maynard Ferguson! I'm off to catch some trout (no! not trouser trout!!) for a week so try to keep voting for Death Trap and give Flounder something to do with his time! ;-) Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 05 MCS Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/2606/image001xs9.gif > > Wm. Severin Thompson From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Aug 4 23:13:34 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 23:13:34 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - PT Cruiser A/C In-Reply-To: <62b83300708041807u250a22a9h19405da5eee4505f@mail.gmail.com> References: <62b83300708041807u250a22a9h19405da5eee4505f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910708042213o4fdc2245ie282176c38dff37d@mail.gmail.com> If there is condensation on parts of the lines than the Freon system is probably doing its thing. Check for a bad duct or diverter valve in the controls. Chrysler products seem to be exceedingly difficult to work on when it comes to things behind the dash. Good luck. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Aug 4 23:15:21 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 23:15:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] somewhere at a bar in Wisco In-Reply-To: <000501c7d706$61d0fbd0$2572f370$@com> References: <000501c7d706$61d0fbd0$2572f370$@com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910708042215i2d6ee0b8n9bab0e1513c74ac6@mail.gmail.com> Udderly appalling. From dwoerpel at wi.net Sat Aug 4 23:21:58 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 00:21:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] somewhere at a bar in Wisco In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910708042215i2d6ee0b8n9bab0e1513c74ac6@mail.gmail.com> References: <000501c7d706$61d0fbd0$2572f370$@com> <5f00d9910708042215i2d6ee0b8n9bab0e1513c74ac6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46B55E76.601@wi.net> Nothing but the best here in Wisconsin! Actually she used to work for Borden's then Golden Guernsey and now she's forced to eek out a living working weekends on the Dream Farm. ;-) ok, i'm running away now. Dave derf wrote: > Udderly appalling. > _______________________________________________ From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Aug 4 23:37:24 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 23:37:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Way OT, Online RXs, Turning into a coot and need more pills Message-ID: <5f00d9910708042237p506fcc30x1fd7852ffed1361e@mail.gmail.com> Anyone get their meds online? I feel like a victim of the Healthcare Industrial Complex. I have several Dr friends that can write me a scrip but how do I go about getting the stuff sent to me? I know there are many coots on the list. Everyone knows coots take mucho meds. So, please enlighten me on ordering meds over the net legally and legitimately. This really stems from the fact that our nice neighborhood Eckerd store was overthrown by a lame CVS chain. If I needed to squirt oil or glue or whatever in somewhere tiny I could go into Eckerd and get syringes and needles for a quarter. Now they refuse to sell them to me. Do I look like a Heroin addict? NO, of course not, Heroin addicts get free needles. I want to buy one to support my glue squirting habit. From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Sat Aug 4 23:53:51 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 00:53:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] somewhere at a bar in Wisco In-Reply-To: <019b01c7d716$5c5587b0$6501a8c0@actualshop> References: <000501c7d706$61d0fbd0$2572f370$@com> <8a336b9d0708042057i15a8943ao1be769266d15486e@mail.gmail.com> <019b01c7d716$5c5587b0$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0708042253k7776f888jedbb47f9cfcf636@mail.gmail.com> Does anyone here speak drunk asshole? On 8/4/07, WJHS1960 wrote: > < make abysmal farm-redneck jokes? > >> > > You where HATCHED there, Flash. Crawl back in you Manhatten. > _______________________________________________ -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - Reduced! $875 From herby at herbytoys.com Sun Aug 5 00:13:56 2007 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 23:13:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] somewhere at a bar in Wisco In-Reply-To: <46B55E76.601@wi.net> Message-ID: <000001c7d727$d0348df0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> " Nothing but the best here in Wisconsin! Actually she used to work for Borden's then Golden Guernsey and now she's forced to eek out a living working weekends on the Dream Farm. ;-) " Ooohhh,You were milking that one!! (I know I'm banished now!) Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com From herby at herbytoys.com Sun Aug 5 02:16:07 2007 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 01:16:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Way OT, Online RXs, Turning into a coot and need more pills In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910708042237p506fcc30x1fd7852ffed1361e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000c01c7d738$e19a1360$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> Derf My wife uses http://www.horizondrugs.com/ Hers come in from Costa Rica, India as well as the good old USA. She has had no issues with them at all. You ca also try any of the Canadian online sites. Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com Anyone get their meds online? From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Aug 5 06:29:25 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 07:29:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] somewhere at a bar in Wisco In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0708042057i15a8943ao1be769266d15486e@mail.gmail.com> References: <000501c7d706$61d0fbd0$2572f370$@com> <8a336b9d0708042057i15a8943ao1be769266d15486e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001801c7d75c$446a2ac0$cd3e8040$@com> Step away from the cow, son. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Flash. Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 10:58 PM To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] somewhere at a bar in Wisco This reminds me of when Seinfeld complains about his friend converting to judaism for the jokes. Did you move to Wisconsin just so you could make abysmal farm-redneck jokes? On 8/4/07, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/2606/image001xs9.gif > > > > > > Wm. Severin Thompson > > ~iii<8a336b9d0708042057i15a8943ao1be769266d15486e@mail.gmail.com><019b01c7d716$5c5587b0$6501a8c0@actualshop> <8a336b9d0708042253k7776f888jedbb47f9cfcf636@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <004301c7d768$bd20c300$0401a8c0@midget> > Does anyone here speak drunk asshole? I think that we are outnumbered by the ones that do, Flash. From chris_west at juno.com Sun Aug 5 09:43:20 2007 From: chris_west at juno.com (Chris M West) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 11:43:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] PT Cruiser AC Message-ID: <20070805.114321.732.0.chris_west@juno.com> Brent Wolf wrote: My wifes 1992 PT Cruisers A/C has quit blowing cold air. Symptoms are: compressor cycles relatively often, the tubing/hoses are ice cold, however, the air blowing into the car is warm. =============================================== Brent, The HVAC system on the PT (as well as most newer vehicles) is of the "air blend" type in which the temperature of the system's output is determined by mixing hot air (from the heater core in "heat" mode and from the outside in "AC" mode or the vehicle cabin in "max AC") with cold air ( from the outside in "heat" or from the AC evaporator in "AC"). This mixing is regulated by a "blend door" in the HVAC ductwork. This blend door is vacuum controlled. If there is insufficient (or no) vacuum present at the actuator the door will not move, and the temp will not change. The Chrysler minivans are pretty notorious for hacing issues in this regard. The door that determines where the hot air comes from is also vacuum controlled and could also be inoperative. Do a thorough visual inspection of all of the vacuum lines in the engine compartment, especially the small diameter hard plastic ones, whick seem to get brittle and break for no apparrent reason. If these all check out OK, try to inspect the ones under / behind the dash. I have had good luck repairing these lines by slipping a length of the appropriately sized ( inner diameter) rubber vacuum hose over the broken ends. One other possible cause of the problem is the "cabin air" filter (not sure if the PT has one, but many newer vehicles do). Check the owner's manual to see if you have one and where it is located. Pull it out and inspect. If it is very dirty it could be restricting the air flow to the HVAC system. Replace it if needed, Hope this helps, Chris AN5L35578 From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Sun Aug 5 12:05:33 2007 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 14:05:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Way OT, Online RXs, Turning into a coot and need more pills Message-ID: <25298259.1186337133502.JavaMail.root@wmvirt66> If I needed to squirt oil or glue or whatever in somewhere tiny I could go into Eckerd and get syringes and needles for a quarter. Now they refuse to sell them to me. Do I look like a Heroin addict? NO, of course not, Heroin addicts get free needles. I want to buy one to support my glue squirting habit. 2 possibilities: Get a scrpt for the syringes or get some needle tip extensions for your glue bottle. The better hobby shops sell them in multi-paks. Great for getting that thin CA glue into the hard to reach spots. Kent 1960 Bugeye 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen From refisk at chartermi.net Sun Aug 5 12:18:48 2007 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 14:18:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Way OT, Online RXs, Turning into a coot and need more pills References: <25298259.1186337133502.JavaMail.root@wmvirt66> Message-ID: <004001c7d78d$11ca9c40$6401a8c0@refisk> Derf, I used to have a big herd of dogs and did my own doctoring. Go to your local pet supply house that sells vaccines and they will sell you all the syringes you want. Rick PS - I use Medco for online prescription ordering. http://www.medcohealth.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Way OT, Online RXs, Turning into a coot and need more pills > If I needed to squirt oil or glue or whatever in somewhere tiny I could go > into Eckerd and get syringes and needles for a quarter. Now they refuse > to sell them to me. Do I look like a Heroin addict? NO, of course not, > Heroin addicts get free needles. I want to buy one to support my glue > squirting habit. > > 2 possibilities: Get a scrpt for the syringes or get some needle tip > extensions for your glue bottle. The better hobby shops sell them in > multi-paks. Great for getting that thin CA glue into the hard to reach > spots. > > Kent > 1960 Bugeye > 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Aug 5 13:01:36 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 13:01:36 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] somewhere at a bar in Wisco In-Reply-To: <001801c7d75c$446a2ac0$cd3e8040$@com> References: <000501c7d706$61d0fbd0$2572f370$@com> <8a336b9d0708042057i15a8943ao1be769266d15486e@mail.gmail.com> <001801c7d75c$446a2ac0$cd3e8040$@com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910708051201j5bd3a082jbe096ad7057fd6de@mail.gmail.com> On 8/5/07, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > Step away from the cow, son. > Really, officer, I was trying to tip it with a pelvic thrust. From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Sun Aug 5 14:56:50 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 13:56:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] SEBRING hardtop!!! References: <1212319074.20070803211429@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <008e01c7d7a3$2611f2a0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> I take it that's a "No go" as a carry on? Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill L" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 9:14 PM Subject: [Spridgets] SEBRING hardtop!!! > Hello Spridgets, > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-MIDGET-SEBRING-HARDTOP-GREAT-PRICE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33652QQihZ019QQitemZ290145996564QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW > > i want it, but "local pick-up" only > > -- > Best regards, > Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite "the red thing" (HAN8L 49403) > > * "We're off to Scotland," said Tom clandestinely. > _______________________________________________ > pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From sprite58 at hotmail.com Sun Aug 5 15:11:53 2007 From: sprite58 at hotmail.com (r moses) Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 16:11:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sale-Wanted-Trade up & running Message-ID: Spridget enthusiasts, The sale-wanted-trade section of & is now working. If you want more exposure for your items email them to DR.MOSES at verizon.net. They will be added on the site as received ASAP. The website is updated each week and sometimes daily at the beginning four days of the week. Thanks to all of you who have subscribed and are supporting the email version of SPRITE Newsletters. If you have something you want in the fall issue of the Newsletters let me know soon. The printed version of SPRITE Newsletters and SPRITE project announcements goes out to hundreds of people who for one reason or another do not frequent the internet so much. Rick _________________________________________________________________ Now you can see troublebefore he arrives http://newlivehotmail.com/?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_viral_protection_0507 From kgrowler at aol.com Sun Aug 5 15:18:31 2007 From: kgrowler at aol.com (kgrowler at aol.com) Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 17:18:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Miata Owner's Manual Message-ID: <8C9A5BD4EE08304-8F0-DE0C@webmail-dd06.sysops.aol.com> Got a call from my Dad this afternoon and he told me he bought a '96 Miata. He'd been looking over various ones he'd spotted on offer the last few years so it didn't come as a total shock. I'm guessing he's going to keep it in my brother-in-law's pole barn next to the '65 Midget bodyshell I'm still trying to get to. He mentioned it didn't have an Owner's Manual with it and he would like to obtain one. Googling, checking eBay and looking up the local club's classified section didn't come up with a specifically '96 one. Any listers who also have a foot in the MX-5 world have suggestions on where I can locate one for him? Kim Tonry Downer's Grove, Illinois, USA 79 Midget, 65 Midget, 74 BGT, 58 MGA ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Aug 5 18:36:33 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 18:36:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Miata Owner's Manual In-Reply-To: <8C9A5BD4EE08304-8F0-DE0C@webmail-dd06.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C9A5BD4EE08304-8F0-DE0C@webmail-dd06.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910708051736m1c868275pa11118396c85f7f8@mail.gmail.com> I got mine on ebay. You can find new or lightly used ones for less than $10. Cheers, Derf From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Sun Aug 5 18:53:27 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 19:53:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Miata Owner's Manual In-Reply-To: <8C9A5BD4EE08304-8F0-DE0C@webmail-dd06.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C9A5BD4EE08304-8F0-DE0C@webmail-dd06.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0708051753h3021f363s7356218fadb689d3@mail.gmail.com> Youre just going to have to wait out ebay, BUT if you're in a hurry post a "want to buy" on miata.net and a "want to buy" on ebay.com. The manuals were year specific at least for the first few years. On 8/5/07, kgrowler at aol.com wrote: > Got a call from my Dad this afternoon and he told me he bought a '96 > Miata. He'd been looking over various ones he'd spotted on offer the > last few years so it didn't come as a total shock. I'm guessing he's > going to keep it in my brother-in-law's pole barn next to the '65 > Midget bodyshell I'm still trying to get to. > > He mentioned it didn't have an Owner's Manual with it and he would like > to obtain one. Googling, checking eBay and looking up the local club's > classified section didn't come up with a specifically '96 one. Any > listers who also have a foot in the MX-5 world have suggestions on > where I can locate one for him? > > Kim Tonry > Downer's Grove, Illinois, USA > 79 Midget, 65 Midget, 74 BGT, 58 MGA > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free > from AOL at AOL.com. > _______________________________________________ > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - Reduced! $875 From mconn2 at bright.net Sun Aug 5 19:16:08 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 21:16:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] AN5 Message-ID: <000e01c7d7c7$5f341120$4734ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Listers, I've got the original steering wheel back on, and everything works. I had to shorten the brush because the horn button would stay seated. I did this with a sharp knife by cutting away at the plastic tube. I also used a wheel to shorten the whole thing by removing the solder from one end. I made a groove in the wheel hub. Having done this, I "fiddled" with the horn push until it "fell" into place. Thanks to all who gave help. (The suggested use of epoxy tempted me more than once, I can tell you.) From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Aug 5 19:43:35 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 01:43:35 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP Message-ID: Redline, Royal Purple, Shell Rotella, Valvoline vr-1, Oil Xtreme (synthetic) are a few and those oils labeled suitable for diesels. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Aug 5 19:48:31 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 20:48:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP References: Message-ID: <001d01c7d7cb$e6183eb0$0401a8c0@midget> > Redline, Royal Purple, Shell Rotella, Valvoline vr-1, Oil Xtreme > (synthetic) are a few and those oils labeled suitable for diesels. Better check again, Cap'n. Those all have higher levels than the SL and higher ratings, but significantly lower than the Spridget engine was brought up to expect. They are also going to drop further. David Lieb From ah53 at yahoo.com Sun Aug 5 20:54:29 2007 From: ah53 at yahoo.com (jomar healey) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 19:54:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 30th Anniversary Encounter Message-ID: <537824.47705.qm@web31506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> This Thurs through Sat is the 30th Encounter put on by the Austin Healey Sports and Touring club at the Hilton hotel in Parsippany NJ. Jerry Coker is the honored guest and events are planned every day with a car show on Sat. Hope to see some of you there. Joe BN1 #923 Coronet Cream BN2 100M BJ8 Just a great car '65 "Wedding Sprite" now in residence with "The Kid" and her spouse --------------------------------- Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. From dmg at bossig.com Sun Aug 5 21:33:57 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 20:33:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] How much?? Message-ID: <46B63435.25356.2DE07AE@dmg.bossig.com> http://kpr.craigslist.org/car/389836193.html This has drum brakes, Datsun 5-speed, unknown engine, rewired. Needs paint job. I suspect it's been driven hard!! I'm tempted --- Don't know where I'd put it, but....... How much is it worth?? I'm going to have a look on Monday afternoon.... - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon Aug 6 10:23:08 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 11:23:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] VOTE - as many times as you can In-Reply-To: <006201c7d397$34893c40$8700a8c0@PaulsLaptop> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070729063119.0467d140@littlebitcountry.com> <006201c7d397$34893c40$8700a8c0@PaulsLaptop> Message-ID: <7E75ECB1-D589-4059-9E38-B21A8209D900@comcast.net> Still dead at 11:22 am CST Lester > > http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx From racerbob70 at yahoo.com Mon Aug 6 10:52:36 2007 From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 09:52:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] VOTE - as many times as you can In-Reply-To: <7E75ECB1-D589-4059-9E38-B21A8209D900@comcast.net> Message-ID: <820484.18069.qm@web51611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> It's alive!!!!! 12:52PM EDT --- oldsaabguy wrote: > Still dead at 11:22 am CST > > Lester > > > > > > http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx > _______________________________________________ > racerbob70 at yahoo.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Aug 6 11:28:06 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 12:28:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] VOTE - as many times as you can References: <820484.18069.qm@web51611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001001c7d84f$26e11650$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Death Trap 36.5% Apocalyptic Rust Rockets 34.3% X-Wing Racer 23.4% Big Pig Warriors 4.4% DB5 Devils 1.5% From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Aug 6 11:38:01 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 12:38:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: VOTE - as many times as you can Message-ID: <02f501c7d850$8a769900$6401a8c0@Larry> Death Trap 36.5% Apocalyptic Rust Rockets 34.3% X-Wing Racer 23.4% Big Pig Warriors 4.4% DB5 Devils 1.5% Now 36.4 to 34.4. It looks like the Rusty Rockets found out, too. Time to vote! From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Aug 6 12:47:39 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 13:47:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: VOTE - as many times as you can References: <02f501c7d850$8a769900$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <001b01c7d85a$43f2cb70$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Now 36.4 to 34.4. It looks like the Rusty Rockets found out, too. Time > to > vote! Death Trap 37.1% Apocalyptic Rust Rockets 34.1% X-Wing Racer 23% Big Pig Warriors 4.3% DB5 Devils 1.5% They ought to be getting a little discouraged by now... From grday at btinternet.com Mon Aug 6 13:52:54 2007 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 20:52:54 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] VOTE - as many times as you can References: <820484.18069.qm@web51611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <001001c7d84f$26e11650$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <002801c7d863$6133dfe0$fbe78556@tairswork> 8.45pm UK time, back in business. Let's try and break it again whilst we're ahead. Death Trap 37.4% Apocalyptic Rust Rockets 34% http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx GRD From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Aug 6 14:52:20 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 15:52:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] what's the deal on this site? Message-ID: <004001c7d86b$b082c950$11885bf0$@com> http://lbc.gotstogo.com/ Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From stevenm at optonline.net Mon Aug 6 15:14:03 2007 From: stevenm at optonline.net (Steven Michelsen) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 17:14:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] what's the deal on this site? References: <004001c7d86b$b082c950$11885bf0$@com> Message-ID: <115401c7d86e$b7498780$6701a8c0@17053> Some guy named Dave created this site in 2005. Below are his posts on the yahoo midgetsprite group that describes it. I believe what it basically provides is a relatively user-friendly way to search the archives of the midgetsprite group and the bugeye group. Steve '78 Midget ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, after months of work... It is finally ready for prime time. GotsToGo LBC - http://lbc.gotstogo.com GotsToGo LBC is the largest repository of information on the web for LBCs (specifically Bugeyes, Frogeyes, Sprites, MG Midgets and Mini Coopers). Yes, it's slightly commercial. I have some pertinent Google Ads and Amazon associate links (http://lbc.gotstogo.com/store.php). But, these just help me to pay for the web hosting and software that I had to buy. I have not spent much time on this list since I am a Bugeye owner ('59, it's the red one on the front page of the website). But, I thought you guys might be interested in the resource that I have created. The Bugeye Yahoo Group, my guinea pigs all August, seemed to really like the easy and fast search capability. Anyone know what size the bolts are for the starter of a Bugeye? Search for "starter bolts" in the Bugeye & Frogeye Blog (http://lbc.gotstogo.com/weblogbf1/). So, anyhow. let me know what you think. Send me an e-mail from this link: http://lbc.gotstogo.com/contact.php GotsToGo David '59 Bugeye AKA "ex_cmp_guy" on the Bugeye Yahoo Group AND A FURTHER NOTE FROM DAVE Nope, no copyright issues. Yahoo doesn't own the messages per their Terms of Service. Otherwise they would be responsbile for what listers said. The authors own the content. Thus, I give the author credit with the information made available from the original listing, while not intruding on the author's privacy (like listing their e- mail or other things that spammers could make use of). Besides if you are really curious, you can take the info from my site and find the actual entry from the Yahoo Group. Pretty easy to do, but you have to put up with their horrible search. I would give a link back to the original entry, but since most Yahoo groups are membership based, the link wouldn't matter. It would just be a broken link. Also, in an extreme case, if anyone wants me to take their posts off, it's possible to do... but a bit of work potentially. And, I welcome listers to contact me about "inappropriate" posts that make it through my filters. I want this information to be really high quality, the "best of the best" for all LBC owners to enjoy and use. GotsToGo... still need more sleep. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: "'Spridget List'" Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 4:52 PM Subject: [Spridgets] what's the deal on this site? > http://lbc.gotstogo.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wm. Severin Thompson > > ~iii <40b437200708061134q6e15c954y5282b973322a45cb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <031201c7d86f$87bb0a60$6401a8c0@Larry> Way to go, Simon. We're at 37.7% now. RR is at 33.8%. I think that is our biggest lead ever. Keep up the good work. We'll teach them to mess with a bunch of LBCers. Get ready to buy some beer, Gilroy!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Matthews" To: "Larry Daniels" Cc: ; "MG List" Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [Mgs] Death Trap I just pushed DT to 37%! Simon From grday at btinternet.com Mon Aug 6 15:27:56 2007 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 22:27:56 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] what's the deal on this site? References: <004001c7d86b$b082c950$11885bf0$@com> Message-ID: <003801c7d870$a9b8dd30$fbe78556@tairswork> When the list gets stumped for answers it's somewhere to send people. LOL GRD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: "'Spridget List'" Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 9:52 PM Subject: [Spridgets] what's the deal on this site? > http://lbc.gotstogo.com/ > > Wm. Severin Thompson > > ~iii<40b437200708061134q6e15c954y5282b973322a45cb@mail.gmail.com> <031201c7d86f$87bb0a60$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <009b01c7d872$60b0f670$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> And LOTS of it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Non-imbiber From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Aug 6 15:49:23 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 16:49:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] what's the deal on this site? In-Reply-To: <115401c7d86e$b7498780$6701a8c0@17053> References: <004001c7d86b$b082c950$11885bf0$@com> <115401c7d86e$b7498780$6701a8c0@17053> Message-ID: <005401c7d873$a8bb3bf0$fa31b3d0$@com> I stumbled across it, and didn't see too many recent posts... -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steven Michelsen Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 4:14 PM To: 'Spridget List' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] what's the deal on this site? Some guy named Dave created this site in 2005. Below are his posts on the yahoo midgetsprite group that describes it. I believe what it basically provides is a relatively user-friendly way to search the archives of the midgetsprite group and the bugeye group. Steve '78 Midget ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------- Well, after months of work... It is finally ready for prime time. GotsToGo LBC - http://lbc.gotstogo.com GotsToGo LBC is the largest repository of information on the web for LBCs (specifically Bugeyes, Frogeyes, Sprites, MG Midgets and Mini Coopers). Yes, it's slightly commercial. I have some pertinent Google Ads and Amazon associate links (http://lbc.gotstogo.com/store.php). But, these just help me to pay for the web hosting and software that I had to buy. I have not spent much time on this list since I am a Bugeye owner ('59, it's the red one on the front page of the website). But, I thought you guys might be interested in the resource that I have created. The Bugeye Yahoo Group, my guinea pigs all August, seemed to really like the easy and fast search capability. Anyone know what size the bolts are for the starter of a Bugeye? Search for "starter bolts" in the Bugeye & Frogeye Blog (http://lbc.gotstogo.com/weblogbf1/). So, anyhow. let me know what you think. Send me an e-mail from this link: http://lbc.gotstogo.com/contact.php GotsToGo From mconn2 at bright.net Mon Aug 6 16:14:08 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 18:14:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] what's the deal on this site? References: <004001c7d86b$b082c950$11885bf0$@com> Message-ID: <002a01c7d877$1d4138f0$8c34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Wm, I don't know the deal, but I enjoyed looking at the Austin A35. Michael From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Aug 6 17:33:26 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 18:33:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] double bearing hubs wanted Message-ID: <000601c7d882$31ae67d0$950b3770$@com> Anyone have a set they want to part with? Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From pythias at pacifier.com Mon Aug 6 17:31:21 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 16:31:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap In-Reply-To: <20070723125808.OFHV18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20070723125808.OFHV18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <1197335827.20070806163121@pacifier.com> Hello, 38.1 us 33.7 them... 16:30 PDT http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite * "This is the fastest way to get drunk," said Tom quixotically. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Aug 6 17:45:39 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 18:45:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [Mgs] Please vote & keep it going Message-ID: <036201c7d883$e5cea8f0$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordies Garage" To: Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 5:20 PM Subject: [Mgs] Please vote & keep it going Interesting concept. I'm for it! http://www.theracingnetwork.com/ Gordie Bird '62 MGA '67 BGT ========================= Take a quick look at this. It's a chance to get away from the NASCAR Network (Speed Channel). There is some stuff here I might not like as well as others, but it beats what happened to Speed. From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Mon Aug 6 17:58:35 2007 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 19:58:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [Mgs] Please vote & keep it going In-Reply-To: <036201c7d883$e5cea8f0$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <036201c7d883$e5cea8f0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070806195719.04703b58@littlebitcountry.com> Looks like a spammers setup. Have fun Dave >Interesting concept. I'm for it! >http://www.theracingnetwork.com/ > >Gordie Bird >'62 MGA >'67 BGT >========================= > >Take a quick look at this. It's a chance to get away from the NASCAR >Network (Speed Channel). > >There is some stuff here I might not like as well as others, but it beats >what happened to Speed. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Aug 6 20:12:53 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 21:12:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap References: <20070723125808.OFHV18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <1197335827.20070806163121@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <039e01c7d898$773180b0$6401a8c0@Larry> 9:10 PM CDT DT 38.5% RR 33.5% There, that oughta demoralize them for a while. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill L" To: "Bill Gilroy" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Death Trap Hello, 38.1 us 33.7 them... 16:30 PDT http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite * "This is the fastest way to get drunk," said Tom quixotically. _______________________________________________ ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pythias at pacifier.com Mon Aug 6 22:45:20 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 21:45:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap In-Reply-To: <039e01c7d898$773180b0$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <20070723125808.OFHV18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <1197335827.20070806163121@pacifier.com> <039e01c7d898$773180b0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <68587394.20070806214520@pacifier.com> Hello , up by over 6% 39.2% 33.1% 22:45 PDT .... 8/6/07 http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite * "Perhaps I will," said Tom with all his might. From pilotrob at webtv.net Mon Aug 6 23:27:25 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 05:27:25 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP Message-ID: They change the (API) requirements of over-the road Diesels as well, Dave? Oil Xtreme ain't changin' for sure, though I haven't heard about the others. But this having been said, where are you getting your information from in this respect, Dave? Educate us! :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pilotrob at webtv.net Mon Aug 6 23:28:55 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 05:28:55 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Deves rings Message-ID: "I just found out Deves/MiniMania" Oh, boy...price increase to follow, no doubt. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Mon Aug 6 23:34:06 2007 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 22:34:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget for sale in NJ? Message-ID: <716053.14944.qm@web36815.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just learned about this discussion site and signed up tonight. Received an email response to a "Spridget wanted" ad I have posted on another site. The note said somebody in New Jersey wants to sell his Spridget... I looked but was unable to find the discussion thread. If you're out there with a square body Sprite or chrome-bumper Midget for sale, let me know. I live on Long Island and have a long commute into NYC every day. With that in mind, I don't have the time for another restoration (sold all the fun stuff when I moved up here 3 yrs ago)... Not looking for a show car, but a solid Spridget in good running shape, no rust. Would love to get some top-down driving in before the end of summer! Thanks - David --------------------------------- Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Aug 7 06:13:00 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 07:13:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP References: Message-ID: <003a01c7d8ec$4caebcf0$0201a8c0@midget> > They change the (API) requirements of over-the road Diesels as well, Dave? > Oil Xtreme ain't changin' for sure, though I haven't heard about the > others. > But this having been said, where are you getting your information from in > this respect, Dave? Educate us! :) Try this one, Cap'n: http://www.lubereport.com/e_article000288578.cfm From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Aug 7 07:59:07 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 07:59:07 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget for sale in NJ? In-Reply-To: <716053.14944.qm@web36815.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <716053.14944.qm@web36815.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910708070659w12adf480m706ba4dfd8dc754b@mail.gmail.com> Talk to Frank Clarici. He is THE Spridget guy as far as I'm concerned. He is in Toms River Joisey, too. He can help you find exactly what you want for a good price. He is on this list. Cheers, Derf From lists at woozy.com Tue Aug 7 09:38:46 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 11:38:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] How I spent my weekend Message-ID: <46B89206.9050303@woozy.com> Some pictures from last weekend's transmission swap: http://tinyurl.com/ywz32e Check out my plywood "driveway" while you're there ;-) Robert From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Tue Aug 7 09:56:28 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 10:56:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] How I spent my weekend In-Reply-To: <46B89206.9050303@woozy.com> References: <46B89206.9050303@woozy.com> Message-ID: Thanks! that helps me finally visualize how to get mine back in. just curious though, what made you decide to install the tranny and block seperately? Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Weeks Date: Tuesday, August 7, 2007 10:39 am Subject: [Spridgets] How I spent my weekend To: spridgets net > Some pictures from last weekend's transmission swap: > > http://tinyurl.com/ywz32e > > Check out my plywood "driveway" while you're there ;-) > > Robert From lists at woozy.com Tue Aug 7 10:02:36 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 12:02:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] How I spent my weekend In-Reply-To: References: <46B89206.9050303@woozy.com> Message-ID: <46B8979C.2090101@woozy.com> Thanks! I guess that's the way I've always done it. To me it seems easier when working alone. I did get my wife to help with lining up the driveshaft while I lay under the car and lifted the transmission into position. In the photos the transmission mount is on backwards. I didn't notice that until after the first time we got it in....... doh! The engine tilter really helps a lot with getting it back in if you are working solo. Robert cmanuel at wi.rr.com wrote: > Thanks! that helps me finally visualize how to get mine back in. > > just curious though, what made you decide to install the tranny and > block seperately? > > Chris From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Tue Aug 7 10:05:47 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 09:05:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] How I spent my weekend In-Reply-To: <46B8979C.2090101@woozy.com> References: <46B89206.9050303@woozy.com> <46B8979C.2090101@woozy.com> Message-ID: <3e6caa7fda9c0ead7b9a.20070807090547.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Robert, Why did you go from a ribcase transmission to the weaker smoothcase? Am I missing something here? Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Robert Weeks > Thanks! I guess that's the way I've always done it. To me it seems > easier when working alone. I did get my wife to help with lining up the > driveshaft while I lay under the car and lifted the transmission into > position. In the photos the transmission mount is on backwards. I didn't > notice that until after the first time we got it in....... doh! > > The engine tilter really helps a lot with getting it back in if you are > working solo. > > Robert > > > cmanuel at wi.rr.com wrote: >> Thanks! that helps me finally visualize how to get mine back in. >> >> just curious though, what made you decide to install the tranny and >> block seperately? >> >> Chris From lists at woozy.com Tue Aug 7 10:13:57 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 12:13:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] How I spent my weekend In-Reply-To: <3e6caa7fda9c0ead7b9a.20070807090547.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <46B89206.9050303@woozy.com> <46B8979C.2090101@woozy.com> <3e6caa7fda9c0ead7b9a.20070807090547.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <46B89A45.2050006@woozy.com> Basically 'cause we-really-tight. The ribcase was fried, no second gear. I had the smoothcase and it ran strong when I pulled it out of my parts car. Someday I'll have the money for the 5 speed Datsun conversion but I didn't want to take the car off the road until then. All it cost me to get it back on the road was my labor and the cost of the paint, oil and antifreeze which is about all I can afford at the moment. Robert rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: > Robert, > Why did you go from a ribcase transmission to the weaker smoothcase? > Am I missing something here? > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > > > > Robert Weeks > >> Thanks! I guess that's the way I've always done it. To me it seems >> easier when working alone. I did get my wife to help with lining up the >> driveshaft while I lay under the car and lifted the transmission into >> position. In the photos the transmission mount is on backwards. I didn't >> notice that until after the first time we got it in....... doh! >> >> The engine tilter really helps a lot with getting it back in if you are >> working solo. >> >> Robert >> >> >> cmanuel at wi.rr.com wrote: >> >>> Thanks! that helps me finally visualize how to get mine back in. >>> >>> just curious though, what made you decide to install the tranny and >>> block seperately? >>> >>> Chris From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Tue Aug 7 10:38:52 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 09:38:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] How I spent my weekend In-Reply-To: <46B89A45.2050006@woozy.com> References: <46B89206.9050303@woozy.com> <46B8979C.2090101@woozy.com> <3e6caa7fda9c0ead7b9a.20070807090547.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <46B89A45.2050006@woozy.com> Message-ID: <20ce0a58488a52030a715e8a.20070807093852.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Robert, I'm sure there is someone on the list that already made the swap to a Datsun 5 speed trans that has a working ribcase laying around they would sell you cheap to nothing! Once you make the swap to the 5 speed, you'll never go back. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Robert Weeks > Basically 'cause we-really-tight. > > The ribcase was fried, no second gear. I had the smoothcase and it ran > strong when I pulled it out of my parts car. Someday I'll have the money > for the 5 speed Datsun conversion but I didn't want to take the car off > the road until then. All it cost me to get it back on the road was my > labor and the cost of the paint, oil and antifreeze which is about all I > can afford at the moment. > > Robert > > > rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: >> Robert, >> Why did you go from a ribcase transmission to the weaker >> smoothcase? >> Am I missing something here? >> Mike MacLean >> 60 Sprite >> 56 BN2 >> >> >> >> Robert Weeks >> >>> Thanks! I guess that's the way I've always done it. To me it seems >>> easier when working alone. I did get my wife to help with lining up the >>> driveshaft while I lay under the car and lifted the transmission into >>> position. In the photos the transmission mount is on backwards. I >>> didn't >>> notice that until after the first time we got it in....... doh! >>> >>> The engine tilter really helps a lot with getting it back in if you are >>> working solo. >>> >>> Robert >>> >>> >>> cmanuel at wi.rr.com wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks! that helps me finally visualize how to get mine back in. >>>> >>>> just curious though, what made you decide to install the tranny and >>>> block seperately? >>>> >>>> Chris From lists at woozy.com Tue Aug 7 10:49:12 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 12:49:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] How I spent my weekend In-Reply-To: <20ce0a58488a52030a715e8a.20070807093852.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <46B89206.9050303@woozy.com> <46B8979C.2090101@woozy.com> <3e6caa7fda9c0ead7b9a.20070807090547.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <46B89A45.2050006@woozy.com> <20ce0a58488a52030a715e8a.20070807093852.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <46B8A288.5060709@woozy.com> Well, if someone were to give me a working ribcase that didn't need rebuilding I certainly wouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth, but until that happens I'll be driving the smoothcase. That smoothcase came out of my '69 Midget that I drove daily for 5 years. I never had any idea it was a smoothcase until the day I pulled it out of the car. It always functioned perfectly. I'd bet good money that there are very few people who could tell the difference between the two types of transmissions based on how they drive. I did bid on a ribcase on ebay this weekend and I was the high bidder when the auction ended but the seller had a $250 reserve. I'd rather put that money towards a 5 speed than towards a questionable ribcase. Thanks, Robert rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: > Robert, > I'm sure there is someone on the list that already made the swap to a > Datsun 5 speed trans that has a working ribcase laying around they > would sell you cheap to nothing! Once you make the swap to the 5 > speed, you'll never go back. > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Tue Aug 7 11:00:43 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 10:00:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] How I spent my weekend In-Reply-To: <46B8A288.5060709@woozy.com> References: <46B89206.9050303@woozy.com> <46B8979C.2090101@woozy.com> <3e6caa7fda9c0ead7b9a.20070807090547.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <46B89A45.2050006@woozy.com> <20ce0a58488a52030a715e8a.20070807093852.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <46B8A288.5060709@woozy.com> Message-ID: <0a0a0a0a.20070807100043.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Other than the weaker synchros, the main difference between the smoothcase and the ribcase are the gear ratios. The ribcase has much closer ratios than the smoothcase. Just wondered about the backwards swap, but if it runs O.K. then at least you will be on the road this weekend. Have fun. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite (with 5 speed) 56 BN2 Robert Weeks > Well, if someone were to give me a working ribcase that didn't need > rebuilding I certainly wouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth, but > until that happens I'll be driving the smoothcase. > > That smoothcase came out of my '69 Midget that I drove daily for 5 > years. I never had any idea it was a smoothcase until the day I pulled > it out of the car. It always functioned perfectly. I'd bet good money > that there are very few people who could tell the difference between the > two types of transmissions based on how they drive. > > I did bid on a ribcase on ebay this weekend and I was the high bidder > when the auction ended but the seller had a $250 reserve. I'd rather put > that money towards a 5 speed than towards a questionable ribcase. > > Thanks, > > Robert > > > > rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: >> Robert, >> I'm sure there is someone on the list that already made the swap to >> a >> Datsun 5 speed trans that has a working ribcase laying around they >> would sell you cheap to nothing! Once you make the swap to the 5 >> speed, you'll never go back. >> Mike MacLean >> 60 Sprite >> 56 BN2 From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Tue Aug 7 11:14:01 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 12:14:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] what a great use of state funds. Message-ID: <8a336b9d0708071014u727ef40by376c52a61f058fa5@mail.gmail.com> http://www.tailofthedragon.com/dragon_SHUTDOWN.html dummies. -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - Reduced! $875 From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Aug 7 11:36:35 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 12:36:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Since most of us hate cats, buy THIS for your dog......... Message-ID: http://www.vickdogchewtoy.com/ -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Tue Aug 7 11:45:46 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 12:45:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] what a great use of state funds. In-Reply-To: <009701c7d918$bc5f1960$6400a8c0@htpc> References: <8a336b9d0708071014u727ef40by376c52a61f058fa5@mail.gmail.com> <009701c7d918$bc5f1960$6400a8c0@htpc> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0708071045g62b31a4ah230abac0cd184677@mail.gmail.com> you still got bbq. On 8/7/07, Rick Sorak wrote: > As a citizen of TN I'm embarrassed by this..... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Flash." > To: "Spridget List" ; > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 12:14 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] what a great use of state funds. > > > > http://www.tailofthedragon.com/dragon_SHUTDOWN.html > > > > dummies. > > > > -- > > http://btdtracing.com > > 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata > > 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - Reduced! $875 -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - Reduced! $875 From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Aug 7 12:00:12 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 13:00:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [Mgs] Death Trap -- Rust Rockets fighting back References: <40b437200708071038s4be359bi89b6eb0b78d7add3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <04a101c7d91c$ce2e4900$6401a8c0@Larry> The Rust Rockets are in a big push. They are comnig back real strong. We need votes. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Matthews" To: "Eric Erickson" Cc: "MG LIST" Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [Mgs] Death Trap -- Rust Rockets fighting back It has dropped to 39.1% -- it looks like the Rust Rockets are fighting back. Simon _______________________________________________ ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Edit your replies Mgs at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Aug 7 12:15:22 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 13:15:22 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spridgets] [Mgs] Death Trap -- Rust Rockets fighting back In-Reply-To: <04a101c7d91c$ce2e4900$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <40b437200708071038s4be359bi89b6eb0b78d7add3@mail.gmail.com> <04a101c7d91c$ce2e4900$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <3161.216.183.226.225.1186510522.squirrel@www.thicko.com> I know a guy that could have restored both his Bugeyes in all the time he's spent screwing around with this stuff... > The Rust Rockets are in a big push. They are comnig back real strong. We > need votes. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Simon Matthews" > To: "Eric Erickson" > Cc: "MG LIST" > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 12:38 PM > Subject: Re: [Mgs] Death Trap -- Rust Rockets fighting back > > > It has dropped to 39.1% -- it looks like the Rust Rockets are fighting > back. > > Simon From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Aug 7 12:19:28 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 14:19:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] [Mgs] Death Trap -- Rust Rockets fighting back Message-ID: <20070807181928.DABF8273.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> But, try to sneak a bugeye into your office and get away with working on it. ;) Ed > From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" > > I know a guy that could have restored both his Bugeyes in all the time > he's spent screwing around with this stuff... > > > > > > The Rust Rockets are in a big push. They are comnig back real strong. We > > need votes. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Simon Matthews" > > To: "Eric Erickson" > > Cc: "MG LIST" > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 12:38 PM > > Subject: Re: [Mgs] Death Trap -- Rust Rockets fighting back > > > > > > It has dropped to 39.1% -- it looks like the Rust Rockets are fighting > > back. > > > > Simon From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Aug 7 12:21:30 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 13:21:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [Mgs] Death Trap -- Rust Rockets fighting back References: <40b437200708071038s4be359bi89b6eb0b78d7add3@mail.gmail.com> <04a101c7d91c$ce2e4900$6401a8c0@Larry> <3161.216.183.226.225.1186510522.squirrel@www.thicko.com> Message-ID: <04b601c7d91f$c7887190$6401a8c0@Larry> I'll let you know when I think it's any of your business what I do while eating my lunch. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: "Larry Daniels" Cc: "Spridgets List" ; ; ; "Simon Matthews" ; "MG LIST" Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [Mgs] Death Trap -- Rust Rockets fighting back I know a guy that could have restored both his Bugeyes in all the time he's spent screwing around with this stuff... > The Rust Rockets are in a big push. They are comnig back real strong. We > need votes. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Simon Matthews" > To: "Eric Erickson" > Cc: "MG LIST" > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 12:38 PM > Subject: Re: [Mgs] Death Trap -- Rust Rockets fighting back > > > It has dropped to 39.1% -- it looks like the Rust Rockets are fighting > back. > > Simon From froggi60 at gmail.com Tue Aug 7 12:23:33 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 11:23:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap In-Reply-To: <039e01c7d898$773180b0$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <20070723125808.OFHV18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <1197335827.20070806163121@pacifier.com> <039e01c7d898$773180b0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10708071123y35f5a79o60b82c7ef46fcc12@mail.gmail.com> When does the voting end? From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Aug 7 12:34:28 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 13:34:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spridgets] [Mgs] Death Trap -- Rust Rockets fighting back In-Reply-To: <04b601c7d91f$c7887190$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <40b437200708071038s4be359bi89b6eb0b78d7add3@mail.gmail.com> <04a101c7d91c$ce2e4900$6401a8c0@Larry> <3161.216.183.226.225.1186510522.squirrel@www.thicko.com> <04b601c7d91f$c7887190$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <3375.216.183.226.225.1186511668.squirrel@www.thicko.com> I don't recall naming names...but guilt is a wonderful tool. Speaking of "tools", where the hell were you a week .5 ago Friday? > I'll let you know when I think it's any of your business what I do while > eating my lunch. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" > To: "Larry Daniels" > Cc: "Spridgets List" ; ; > ; "Simon Matthews" ; > "MG > LIST" > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 1:15 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [Mgs] Death Trap -- Rust Rockets fighting back > > > I know a guy that could have restored both his Bugeyes in all the time > he's spent screwing around with this stuff... > > > > >> The Rust Rockets are in a big push. They are comnig back real strong. >> We >> need votes. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Aug 7 12:36:10 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 14:36:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Message-ID: <20070807183610.BVRD574.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> from the site: Voting ends at midnight on August 8, 2007. I'm not sure which time zone that is. > From: "WFO Herb" > > When does the voting end? From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Aug 7 13:59:29 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 14:59:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap In-Reply-To: <20070807183610.BVRD574.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20070807183610.BVRD574.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: Since the site mentions Seattle in the web address, I would assume it would be Pacific time. Brad On 8/7/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > from the site: > Voting ends at midnight on August 8, 2007. > > I'm not sure which time zone that is. > > > > From: "WFO Herb" > > > > When does the voting end? > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From wmgilroy at gmail.com Tue Aug 7 14:33:01 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 13:33:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap In-Reply-To: References: <20070807183610.BVRD574.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <441250190708071333u2530e7f4o7f2b10e98098800f@mail.gmail.com> I think it is either central time or mountain. It would depend on where the Red Bull has their servers. Thanks for the votes. Gilroy Vote for Team Death Trap at http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx each day and vote for until Aug. 8th and forward this onto anyone who can help spread the word. On 8/7/07, Brad Fornal wrote: > > Since the site mentions Seattle in the web address, I would assume it > would be Pacific time. > > Brad > > On 8/7/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > > from the site: > > Voting ends at midnight on August 8, 2007. > > > > I'm not sure which time zone that is. > > > > > > > From: "WFO Herb" > > > > > > When does the voting end? > > _______________________________________________ > > tequila.brad at gmail.com > > > > Edit your replies > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > > -- > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > wmgilroy at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Vote for Team Death Trap at http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx each day and vote for until Aug. 8th and forward this onto anyone who can help spread the word. From wmgilroy at gmail.com Tue Aug 7 14:33:44 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 13:33:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [Mgs] Death Trap -- Rust Rockets fighting back In-Reply-To: <3161.216.183.226.225.1186510522.squirrel@www.thicko.com> References: <40b437200708071038s4be359bi89b6eb0b78d7add3@mail.gmail.com> <04a101c7d91c$ce2e4900$6401a8c0@Larry> <3161.216.183.226.225.1186510522.squirrel@www.thicko.com> Message-ID: <441250190708071333y74ae5837ydd924f337ac8e54f@mail.gmail.com> Wait, I don't have a bugeye. -g On 8/7/07, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > > I know a guy that could have restored both his Bugeyes in all the time > he's spent screwing around with this stuff... > > > > > > The Rust Rockets are in a big push. They are comnig back real > strong. We > > need votes. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Simon Matthews" > > To: "Eric Erickson" > > Cc: "MG LIST" > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 12:38 PM > > Subject: Re: [Mgs] Death Trap -- Rust Rockets fighting back > > > > > > It has dropped to 39.1% -- it looks like the Rust Rockets are fighting > > back. > > > > Simon > _______________________________________________ > wmgilroy at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Vote for Team Death Trap at http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx each day and vote for until Aug. 8th and forward this onto anyone who can help spread the word. From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Tue Aug 7 14:34:16 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 13:34:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap References: <20070723125808.OFHV18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca><1197335827.20070806163121@pacifier.com><039e01c7d898$773180b0$6401a8c0@Larry> <2ad6c6b10708071123y35f5a79o60b82c7ef46fcc12@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <014901c7d932$53f66f80$f675fea9@p0k7l8> NEVER!!! It just goes on and on!! (That's a quote from one of my grand-daughters about her Gramma talking!) Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "WFO Herb" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Death Trap > When does the voting end? From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Aug 7 14:59:21 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 15:59:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [Mgs] Death Trap -- Rust Rockets fighting back References: <40b437200708071038s4be359bi89b6eb0b78d7add3@mail.gmail.com><04a101c7d91c$ce2e4900$6401a8c0@Larry><3161.216.183.226.225.1186510522.squirrel@www.thicko.com> <441250190708071333y74ae5837ydd924f337ac8e54f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <007c01c7d935$d48e2d10$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Wait, I don't have a bugeye. Neither do I... From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Tue Aug 7 16:30:52 2007 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 08:30:52 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] vac advance and italian side draught (draft) carbs In-Reply-To: <441250190708071333u2530e7f4o7f2b10e98098800f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <832247.16513.qm@web50601.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Greetings, currently in the throes of assembling a fresh 1275... I want to use my dellorto DHLA40 on it. Can I use the vaccuum advance (25D4 dizzy) or should I get a 43D (non-vac) dizzy? Will having a vac-ad save fuel on long runs? The engine is only lightly tweaked, having the US low comp pistons replaced with hypatec pistons, a cam grind something akin to a kent 276, and LCB header. If anyone has played with jetting and knows the optimum bits to use in a 40mm on an engine like this, then i am all ears....or eyes... Andy Brisbane AUST mkIIa --------------------------------- Yahoo!7 Mail has just got even bigger and better with unlimited storage on all webmail accounts. Find out more. From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Tue Aug 7 16:40:09 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 17:40:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] what a great use of state funds. References: <8a336b9d0708071014u727ef40by376c52a61f058fa5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <021601c7d943$e9422190$6501a8c0@actualshop> The world has come to an end!!!! <> I agree with Flash?!?!?!?!!!! From pythias at pacifier.com Tue Aug 7 20:32:39 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 19:32:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap In-Reply-To: <039e01c7d898$773180b0$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <20070723125808.OFHV18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <1197335827.20070806163121@pacifier.com> <039e01c7d898$773180b0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <1069233306.20070807193239@pacifier.com> Hello , just been voting for a half hour straight.. Death trap was ahead by .2 when i started.. went down by .1 WHILE i was voting.. back up by .1 .. 19:32/8/7/07 BIG PUSH TOMORROW!.. those guys won't stop! -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite "This country will no longer have an official religion," King Tom decreed. From lists at woozy.com Tue Aug 7 20:33:16 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 22:33:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] [Mgs] Death Trap -- Rust Rockets fighting back In-Reply-To: <04a101c7d91c$ce2e4900$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <40b437200708071038s4be359bi89b6eb0b78d7add3@mail.gmail.com> <04a101c7d91c$ce2e4900$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <46B92B6C.6010307@woozy.com> Looks like the rust rockets are pulling ahead. Time to vote! BTW - if you all enjoy voting in these online contests please consider voting for the folks in the email below. I bought my banjo from them and they are a great group of people. Thanks, Robert Dear friends: We need your vote! Weve been chosen as one of 20 finalists in the Forbes Magazine Boost Your Business contest. The grand prize is $100,000.00. Many of you know that weve outgrown our little warehouse. The award would serve as a down-payment on a new store with more space. That would enable us to put more products in the showroom, making them more accessible to you when you visit. The contest is now in your hands. Forbes has set up a Web site with details on the 20 finalists. Your vote will determine who is selected to qualify for the top 5. Those 5 will travel to New York City and make a formal presentation to the Forbes staff. Please vote for us today by clicking on the link below, and please accept our gratitude for helping us to reach the finals. Thank you. http://www.forbes.com/byb/byb07_unicycle.html Best regards, John & Amy Drummond www.Unicycle.com www.Banjo.com Larry Daniels wrote: > The Rust Rockets are in a big push. They are comnig back real strong. We > need votes. From grday at btinternet.com Wed Aug 8 02:27:36 2007 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 09:27:36 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap References: <20070723125808.OFHV18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca><1197335827.20070806163121@pacifier.com><039e01c7d898$773180b0$6401a8c0@Larry> <1069233306.20070807193239@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <003a01c7d995$fa3350d0$7a988d56@tairswork> Apocalyptic Rust Rockets 40.3% down 0.1 Death Trap 37.6% up 0.2 over the last 35mins I have been voting. More DEATH TRAP button users are urgently needed for a final surge ahead please. http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com:80/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx GRD From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Aug 8 06:36:14 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 07:36:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Voting Hints References: <40b437200708071038s4be359bi89b6eb0b78d7add3@mail.gmail.com><04a101c7d91c$ce2e4900$6401a8c0@Larry> <46B92B6C.6010307@woozy.com> Message-ID: <008a01c7d9b8$b64f5210$0201a8c0@midget> In case you were curious... Install an alternate browser (IE7, Firefox, whatever) so as not to lose the cookies you value. There are quite a few numbers and letters which will never appear in the captcha; I 1 O 0 Keystrokes are your friends. After typing in the captcha code, Tab then Space will cast your vote; F5 will refresh the screen, ready for you to click the picture of the cheesehead then click in the voting slot and repeat. As a non-touch-typist, I can still vote 5 to 7 times per minute this way. If you mistype the captcha, it is faster to click the link saying you couldn't read it, Tab to the text field and type the new one than to edit your original mistake. If you get the server error screen, click in the address bar and hit Enter. Chicago has never voted like this before... David Lieb From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Aug 8 06:55:23 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 8:55:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Voting Hints Message-ID: <20070808125523.JQOL7033.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Or, disable cookies ( I'm using IE ) while you're voting and enable them again before you go back to business. And, we're behind again, though reasonably close. Today midnight is the last day to vote. http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx Almost time for Brad's snipers to take over. Does anyone have a take on how many votes it takes to move it '.1%'. Somewhere around 20 or 30 ?? > From: "David Lieb" > In case you were curious... > > Install an alternate browser (IE7, Firefox, whatever) so as not to lose the > cookies you value. From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Wed Aug 8 07:07:24 2007 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 08:07:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Voting Hints In-Reply-To: <20070808125523.JQOL7033.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20070808125523.JQOL7033.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0708080607p68ac612axe20759d01faee4f@mail.gmail.com> On 8/8/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > Or, disable cookies ( I'm using IE ) while you're voting and enable them again before you go back to business. Better yet, if using IE, simply go to Tools | Internet Options | Privacy | Sites and block cookies just from rebullsoapboxusa.com. From grunt333 at verizon.net Wed Aug 8 07:07:54 2007 From: grunt333 at verizon.net (CARL ELLIOT) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 06:07:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 2 Jaguars Message-ID: <453995.58501.qm@web84307.mail.re1.yahoo.com> 2 JagS in southern NJ. Before I Ebay them or part them out a very nice 86 XJS and a german XJ-6 to trade or sell great price for both cant care for them any more due to major surgerys and recovery. 609-698-5414 or grunt333 at verizon.net From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Aug 8 07:54:42 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 08:54:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Voting Hints References: <20070808125523.JQOL7033.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <009f01c7d9c3$ac033550$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Almost time for Brad's snipers to take over. Does anyone have a take on > how many votes it takes to move it '.1%'. Somewhere around 20 or 30 ?? Yesterday it seemed to be 35 votes, but it is probably closer to 45 or 50 by now. It is hard to be sure, since you have no way of knowing how many other people are simultaneously voting for any of the candidates. David Lieb From racerbob70 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 8 08:55:21 2007 From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 07:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Voting Hints In-Reply-To: <009f01c7d9c3$ac033550$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <853819.26502.qm@web51607.mail.re2.yahoo.com> --- David Lieb wrote: > > Almost time for Brad's snipers to take over. Does > anyone have a take on > > how many votes it takes to move it '.1%'. > Somewhere around 20 or 30 ?? > > Yesterday it seemed to be 35 votes, but it is > probably closer to 45 or 50 by > now. It is hard to be sure, since you have no way of > knowing how many other > people are simultaneously voting for any of the > candidates. > David Lieb > _______________________________________________ I voted over 50 times last night and lost ground!! ____________________________________________________________________________________ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC From thcollin at mtu.edu Wed Aug 8 08:59:25 2007 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 10:59:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Faulty Fuses - no LBC but may save your other vehicles. Message-ID: <60324o$nahr6@email.mtu.edu> I have a cousin who works at GM. He sent this note that is going around there. Can't verify that it's true, but judging from the quality (or lack thereof) of recent off-shore products it may be true. The note reads: We have now had two vehicles come into our department with extensive wiring harness damage. Both of these vehicles had a replacement 15 amp fuse instead of the GM fuse. The fuse does NOT "pop" causing the wiring harness to catch fire. The fuse has a clear, hard plastic blue body with the amperage stamped into the top there is no white paint on the fuse. There are no identifying marks on the fuse to tell who is making it. The fuse is distributed by Harbor Freight, I attached a picture of the box of fuses. Your dealers should look out to make sure that suspect wiring problems are not caused by these defective aftermarket fuses. The 15 amp fuse on this particular truck did not "pop" even at 50 amps. The fuse in the second picture still tests "good" even after a direct short across the battery. We tested six of these fuses and none of them pop. Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From biffjones at verizon.net Wed Aug 8 09:03:09 2007 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 11:03:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Death Trap Voting Hints Message-ID: <003901c7d9cd$3c0593b0$2f01a8c0@dell1> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Biff Jones" To: "Jethro" Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 10:33 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Death Trap Voting Hints >I noticed that with cookies disabled for the red bull voting the same >captha number shows up every time I vote. Are my votes being recorded or >because cookies are disabled my votes not being counted? > > If they are being counted then a script with cookies disabled could use > the same captha number and automaticly vote and > vote................................... > > Biff Jones > "Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical > minority, > and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds > forth the > proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean > end." > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jethro" > To: "Robert Duquette" > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 9:07 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Death Trap Voting Hints > > >> On 8/8/07, Robert Duquette wrote: >>> Or, disable cookies ( I'm using IE ) while you're voting and enable them >>> again before you go back to business. >> >> Better yet, if using IE, simply go to Tools | Internet Options | >> Privacy | Sites and block cookies just from rebullsoapboxusa.com. >> _______________________________________________ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Aug 8 09:11:57 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 08:11:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Faulty Fuses - no LBC but may save your other vehicles. In-Reply-To: <60324o$nahr6@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: But then again...the fuse isn't an issue unless the wiring is defective. I wouldn't trust HF fuses, or GM wiring. BZ From hgmiller3 at qwest.net Wed Aug 8 09:45:45 2007 From: hgmiller3 at qwest.net (Herbert Miller) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 10:45:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Voting Hints In-Reply-To: <853819.26502.qm@web51607.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20070808154601.7624E53BD1E@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net> When is this Death Trap BS going to stop? What does it have to do with Spriget's? Herb -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+hgmiller3=qwest.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+hgmiller3=qwest.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Van Kirk Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 9:55 AM To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Death Trap Voting Hints --- David Lieb wrote: > > Almost time for Brad's snipers to take over. Does > anyone have a take on > > how many votes it takes to move it '.1%'. > Somewhere around 20 or 30 ?? > > Yesterday it seemed to be 35 votes, but it is probably closer to 45 or > 50 by now. It is hard to be sure, since you have no way of knowing how > many other people are simultaneously voting for any of the candidates. > David Lieb > _______________________________________________ I voted over 50 times last night and lost ground!! ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC _______________________________________________ hgmiller3 at qwest.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.15/728 - Release Date: 3/20/2007 8:07 AM -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.15/728 - Release Date: 3/20/2007 8:07 AM From cciaffone at verizon.net Wed Aug 8 09:54:38 2007 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 11:54:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Voting Hints In-Reply-To: <20070808154601.7624E53BD1E@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net> References: <20070808154601.7624E53BD1E@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: <46B9E73E.8010905@verizon.net> Oh Gawd, now here come the cat threads! Herbert Miller wrote: > When is this Death Trap BS going to stop? What does it have to do with > Spriget's? From racerbob70 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 8 09:54:09 2007 From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 08:54:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: RE: Death Trap Voting Hints Message-ID: <28663.68378.qm@web51611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Because a fellow spridgeteer asked for our help to get him and his buddies into this race. He's a fellow spridgeteer, no further explanation is needed. It ends tonight.... > --- Herbert Miller wrote: > > > When is this Death Trap BS going to stop? What > does > > it have to do with > > Spriget's? > > Herb > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and > hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. > http://farechase.yahoo.com/ > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Aug 8 09:57:26 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 11:57:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Voting Hints Message-ID: <20070808155726.LGZL26794.tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Well Herb, today is the last day for voting, and we are falling behind, so, I would say the chances are good that tomorrow might be the last day you hear about it. It has to do with the camaraderie of Spridget owners. > From: "Herbert Miller" > > When is this Death Trap BS going to stop? What does it have to do with > Spriget's? > Herb _______________________________________________ robertduquette at sympatico.ca Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Aug 8 09:58:12 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 11:58:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Voting Hints Message-ID: <20070808155812.SDGL9197.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Cats have threads? > From: chuck > > Oh Gawd, now here come the cat threads! > > Herbert Miller wrote: > > When is this Death Trap BS going to stop? What does it have to do with > > Spriget's? _______________________________________________ robertduquette at sympatico.ca Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From cciaffone at verizon.net Wed Aug 8 10:04:27 2007 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:04:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Voting Hints In-Reply-To: <20070808155812.SDGL9197.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20070808155812.SDGL9197.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <46B9E98B.6030302@verizon.net> Mine seems to leave nothing but ... esp of what used to be upholstery! Robert Duquette wrote: > Cats have threads? From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Wed Aug 8 10:21:34 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 11:21:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Voting Hints References: <20070808155812.SDGL9197.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <026801c7d9d8$30e2c600$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> No but they DO make fine tennis rackets, RD!!!!! LOL From smarc at smarc.net Wed Aug 8 10:44:38 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:44:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Voting Hints In-Reply-To: <026801c7d9d8$30e2c600$6501a8c0@actualshop> References: <20070808155812.SDGL9197.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <026801c7d9d8$30e2c600$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <46B9F2F6.3020308@smarc.net> Aw c'mon... give some credit to the little furry horizontals... there are no longer mice in my garage to terrorize my LBC's... - Marc 63AHBJ7 wrote: ><> > >No but they DO make fine tennis rackets, RD!!!!! LOL From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Aug 8 10:49:16 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 12:49:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Voting Hints Message-ID: <20070808164916.LPNI8273.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> "there are no longer mice" You're saying that the mice are shorter now? ;) RD > > From: Marc > > Aw c'mon... give some credit to the little furry horizontals... there > are no longer mice in my garage to terrorize my LBC's... > > - > Marc > > 63AHBJ7 wrote: > > ><> > > > >No but they DO make fine tennis rackets, RD!!!!! LOL > _______________________________________________ > robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From smarc at smarc.net Wed Aug 8 10:50:35 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:50:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Voting Hints In-Reply-To: <20070808164916.LPNI8273.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> References: <20070808164916.LPNI8273.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <46B9F45B.2090501@smarc.net> Exactly - The cats bit their legs off... before swallowing the rest of them! ;-) Robert Duquette wrote: >"there are no longer mice" > >You're saying that the mice are shorter now? ;) > >RD > > > > >>From: Marc >> >>Aw c'mon... give some credit to the little furry horizontals... there >>are no longer mice in my garage to terrorize my LBC's... >> >>- >>Marc >> >>63AHBJ7 wrote: >> >> >> >>><> >>> >>>No but they DO make fine tennis rackets, RD!!!!! LOL From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Aug 8 11:30:10 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 12:30:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Voting Hints References: <20070808154601.7624E53BD1E@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: <00d101c7d9e1$c6cf4590$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > When is this Death Trap BS going to stop? What does it have to do with > Spriget's? > Herb Hmmm, Herbert Miller? I don't seem to recognize this name... have I seen ANY Spridget-related posts from you? Spridgets tend to be secondary here. First and foremost, we are friends, even the people I can't stand are my friends. Funny how many of them have links to Spridgets... From heard at datatrontech.net Wed Aug 8 11:27:35 2007 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 13:27:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Faulty Fuses - no LBC but may save your other vehicles. In-Reply-To: <60324o$nahr6@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <20070808173052.ZBAI12880.cdptpa-omta05.mail.rr.com@heard> Just one more example of Chinese shit. They should be required to place the following warning on all of their products: Caution - this product is made of inferior, questionable, and sometimes unknown materials using substandard engineering and manufacturing processes. Do not expect this product to work for your intended purposes and indeed, it may cause more harm than good. In the unlikely event this item works at all, it would normally be referred to as 'crap'. Since it most likely won't work at all, you may derive other terms to describe it as necessary. In any event, the manufacturer cannot be held responsible for any damages or injury caused by the attempted use of this product. When attempting to use this product, please remember, even though we may have put you or a loved one out of work, you saved a lot of money and got something that slightly resembles the real item. Heard -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+heard=datatrontech.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+heard=datatrontech.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Timothy H. Collins Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 10:59 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Faulty Fuses - no LBC but may save your other vehicles. I have a cousin who works at GM. He sent this note that is going around there. Can't verify that it's true, but judging from the quality (or lack thereof) of recent off-shore products it may be true. The note reads: We have now had two vehicles come into our department with extensive wiring harness damage. Both of these vehicles had a replacement 15 amp fuse instead of the GM fuse. The fuse does NOT "pop" causing the wiring harness to catch fire. The fuse has a clear, hard plastic blue body with the amperage stamped into the top there is no white paint on the fuse. There are no identifying marks on the fuse to tell who is making it. The fuse is distributed by Harbor Freight, I attached a picture of the box of fuses. Your dealers should look out to make sure that suspect wiring problems are not caused by these defective aftermarket fuses. The 15 amp fuse on this particular truck did not "pop" even at 50 amps. The fuse in the second picture still tests "good" even after a direct short across the battery. We tested six of these fuses and none of them pop. Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Aug 8 11:39:22 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 12:39:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Voting Hints In-Reply-To: <46B9F2F6.3020308@smarc.net> References: <20070808155812.SDGL9197.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <026801c7d9d8$30e2c600$6501a8c0@actualshop> <46B9F2F6.3020308@smarc.net> Message-ID: <4349F207-3B6D-4849-B2C9-D26A8BC53924@comcast.net> What, the cat traps catch mice too?? Lester On Aug 8, 2007, at 11:44 AM, Marc wrote: > Aw c'mon... give some credit to the little furry horizontals... there > are no longer mice in my garage to terrorize my LBC's... > > - > Marc > > 63AHBJ7 wrote: > >> <> >> >> No but they DO make fine tennis rackets, RD!!!!! LOL From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Wed Aug 8 12:07:22 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 11:07:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Thread Locker on Head Studs Message-ID: <28e8a6e16a6644a87f4a.20070808110722.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> I am getting ready to put the head on my BN2 engine and wondered if any of you guys put anything on the threads of the head studs that you screw into the block. An engine builder friend of mine recommended one of the Locktite thread locker products. In the past I have just put them in dry. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Wed Aug 8 12:14:45 2007 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 14:14:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070808141409.047b0cd0@littlebitcountry.com> Just voted for an hour or so and the Death Trap came up 3/10 of a percent. Now it's time to play some golf and drink beer, not in that order either. RR = 40.9 DT = 31.9 Get out and vote till your mouse finger hurts Dave More DEATH TRAP button users are urgently needed for a final surge ahead please. http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com:80/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Aug 8 12:14:58 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 13:14:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Thread Locker on Head Studs References: <28e8a6e16a6644a87f4a.20070808110722.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <00d901c7d9e8$08359d80$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >I am getting ready to put the head on my BN2 engine and wondered if any of > you guys put anything on the threads of the head studs that you screw into > the block. An engine builder friend of mine recommended one of the > Locktite thread locker products. In the past I have just put them in dry. My understanding is that you will not get an accurate torquing of the head unless they are lubricated. Otherwise, the torque figure is NOT an accurate repesentation of the amount of stretch. David Lieb From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Wed Aug 8 12:17:11 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 11:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Thread Locker on Head Studs In-Reply-To: <00d901c7d9e8$08359d80$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <28e8a6e16a6644a87f4a.20070808110722.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <00d901c7d9e8$08359d80$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <31aca85ada7c2eaa516a.20070808111711.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> David, I think you misunderstand. I am talking about the threads into the block, not the nut that holds the head down. Mike David Lieb >>I am getting ready to put the head on my BN2 engine and wondered if any >> of >> you guys put anything on the threads of the head studs that you screw >> into >> the block. An engine builder friend of mine recommended one of the >> Locktite thread locker products. In the past I have just put them in >> dry. > > My understanding is that you will not get an accurate torquing of the head > unless they are lubricated. Otherwise, the torque figure is NOT an > accurate > repesentation of the amount of stretch. > David Lieb > _______________________________________________ > rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Wed Aug 8 12:21:36 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 11:21:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Stud Sockets Message-ID: Another head stud question. Any of you guys use stud sockets of any type to install your studs? If so, where to buy and what cost? The same engine builder friend of mine suggested cheap head stud sockets that work with washers somehow. He said you could get a cheap Chinky setup and just throw them out after using them. Horrible Fright Have these? Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Aug 8 12:22:51 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 13:22:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Thread Locker on Head Studs References: <28e8a6e16a6644a87f4a.20070808110722.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <00d901c7d9e8$08359d80$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <31aca85ada7c2eaa516a.20070808111711.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <00e301c7d9e9$21cb7de0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > I think you misunderstand. I am talking about the threads into the > block, not the nut that holds the head down. Darnit, you are right, Mike. I musta bin votin too much ;-) I could see the use of a threadlocker at the block end of the stud, but I would want to be very selective and avoid the "permanent" ones. From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Wed Aug 8 12:41:42 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 11:41:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Compressor Power Message-ID: <1c968a4cef6a47784a5f034a.20070808114142.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> I have an almost new Sears upright single stage 60 Gallon oil type compressor that has been a great tool to have for many uses. Recently I tried to turn it on and got nothing. I went to the fuse box on the side of the house and one of the two breaker levers on the 220 circuit breaker that came with the house for the 220 dryer outlet was tripped. I reset it and then manually tripped both of them and reset them again. The compressor still acted as if it were dead and the circuit breakers were not tripped! Any ideas on this. I am not an electrician and can barely install the wiring harness on my cars. Do I need an electrician? Mike MacLean 56 BN2 60 AN5 From type79 at ix.netcom.com Wed Aug 8 13:04:39 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 15:04:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] NOS Tach Drive Message-ID: <11306683.1186599879080.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I believe someone was looking for one of these? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&viewitem=&item=150149100143 jay fishbein wallingford, ct home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Wed Aug 8 13:55:26 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 12:55:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Stud Sockets References: Message-ID: <018801c7d9f6$11db10a0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> I have a set from Horrible freight and they work fine with a ratchet or similar. NO good with an impact wrench. These are similar in action to the Snap On ones. No problems with them in several years of use. Great buy! Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 11:21 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Stud Sockets > Another head stud question. Any of you guys use stud sockets of any type > to install your studs? If so, where to buy and what cost? The same > engine builder friend of mine suggested cheap head stud sockets that work > with washers somehow. He said you could get a cheap Chinky setup and just > throw them out after using them. Horrible Fright Have these? > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Aug 8 14:00:33 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 16:00:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Compressor Power In-Reply-To: <1c968a4cef6a47784a5f034a.20070808114142.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <1c968a4cef6a47784a5f034a.20070808114142.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <46BA20E1.1090209@comcast.net> Mike Does the compressor motor have a reset button on it? Push down that button and see if it fires up. If not the points on the pressure switch may need a cleaning. Turn off the power before you open up the pressure switch cover. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From hal at katemuir.com Wed Aug 8 14:08:21 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 13:08:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Thread Locker on Head Studs In-Reply-To: <00e301c7d9e9$21cb7de0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: I suggest that youse guys look at the APT web site and read the instructions they have for using or not using thread locker on their studs: Use it or not, but if you do use it make sure that you have tightened the studs to final torque before the thread locker sets. Otherwise the stuff can loosen after the engine has been run for a while and release some of the pre-tension on the studs. 'course, you're gonna re-torque them studs about once every twenty minutes for the first 500 miles anyway, right? So it really shouldn't make much difference. BTW, APT and my machinist both say the studs should go into the block only a little more than hand tight. Can't remember the number, but it should be on APT's web site.... Hal From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Wed Aug 8 14:06:45 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 15:06:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Stud Sockets References: <018801c7d9f6$11db10a0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <037501c7d9f7$a5d64120$6501a8c0@actualshop> Suggest you check out "The Best Stuf Removers" at http://www.justbrits.com/Articles.html From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Wed Aug 8 14:10:44 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 15:10:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Thread Locker on Head Studs References: Message-ID: <038b01c7d9f8$34ef4000$6501a8c0@actualshop> Almost all of your post is right on, Hal!! <> On the couple hundred motors I have done, I only use the tightest I can get with my hand. No prob in all these years!! And with NOTHING on them!! From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Wed Aug 8 14:12:42 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 13:12:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Compressor Power Message-ID: <85e0a16848a14eb0a1bcf0a.20070808131242.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Frank, Let me explain fully. Yes, there is a red reset button on the motor and it is not tripped. I opened the pressure switch box and the points work fine mechanically and are not burnt. They look like shiny copper. The way the power is setup for this compressor is thru the laundry room 220 dryer wall recepticle (220V-3 prong) and a 4 foot extension cord made by an electrician friend of mine with the large correct 3 prong connectors. This connects to a 4 foot pig tail from the pressure switch that ends in a 3 prong 220 volt connector. The compressor says 240 volts on a label on the tank. I am leaning towards a bad circuit breaker as it has tripped a few times trying to make the compressor work, but no longer trips at all. I have a digital VOM that can measure 220V AC, so I need to see if there is power coming out of the 4 foot extension cord from the wall and then the wall if not. If ther is power ther, then the problem lies with the compressor (pressure switch?) Heck, just to inflate 4 tires! I got better things to do on my vacation that ends Sunday night. Mike Frank Clarici > Mike > > Does the compressor motor have a reset button on it? > Push down that button and see if it fires up. > If not the points on the pressure switch may need a cleaning. > Turn off the power before you open up the pressure switch cover. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From froggi60 at gmail.com Wed Aug 8 14:35:37 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 13:35:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Site Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10708081335n5e34e4d7s5c98f4d4c2999101@mail.gmail.com> Seen this? WARNING...time consuming. www.roadsters.com From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Wed Aug 8 14:35:50 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 13:35:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] craiglist deal Message-ID: <000601c7d9fb$b58995a0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/pts/390960795.html NFI Glen From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Aug 8 15:18:41 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 16:18:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Two moons on 27 August - No LBC In-Reply-To: <691127.14203.qm@web38912.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <691127.14203.qm@web38912.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: No it won't. There is no way from this planet those two bodies will have the same annular appearance. Lester Very amateur astronomer On Aug 8, 2007, at 4:14 PM, wrote: > > > Two moons on 27 August > > > 27th Aug the Whole World is waiting for............. > > Planet Mars will be the brightest in the night sky starting August. > > It will look as large as the full moon to the naked eye. > > This will cultivate on Aug.. 27 when Mars comes within 34.65M miles > of earth. Be sure to watch the sky on Aug. 27 12:30 am. It will > look like the earth has 2 moons. The next time Mars may come this > close is in 2287. > > Share this with your friends as NO ONE ALIVE TODAY will ever see it > > again. > > --------------------------------- > Luggage? GPS? Comic books? > Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! 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Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe > Recent Activity > 13 > New Members > 30 > New Photos > Visit Your Group > SPONSORED LINKS > Austin healey > Austin healey part > Austin healey 3000 > Austin healey sprite > Austin healey for sale > Health Zone > Look your best! > > Groups to help you > > look & feel great. > > Yahoo! News > Sexual Health > > Get important > > sex health news > > Yahoo! Finance > It's Now Personal > > Guides, news, > > advice & more. > > . > > __,_._,___ From mconn2 at bright.net Wed Aug 8 17:11:43 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 19:11:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Voting Hints References: <20070808154601.7624E53BD1E@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net> <46B9E73E.8010905@verizon.net> Message-ID: <003b01c7da11$7cddd340$5834ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Chuck, I agree with Herbert. Added to which I'm not sure I understand what's going on. Now, if I can just remember where I live ................... Michael From RobertDuquette at Sympatico.ca Wed Aug 8 17:24:51 2007 From: RobertDuquette at Sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 19:24:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Voting Hints In-Reply-To: <003b01c7da11$7cddd340$5834ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> References: <20070808154601.7624E53BD1E@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net><46B9E73E.8010905@verizon.net> <003b01c7da11$7cddd340$5834ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <000501c7da13$529ca5a0$6401a8c0@RobertDuquette> No worries. Someone will tell you where to go. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Conn Sent: August 8, 2007 7:12 PM To: cciaffone at verizon.net Cc: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Death Trap Voting Hints Chuck, I agree with Herbert. Added to which I'm not sure I understand what's going on. Now, if I can just remember where I live ................... Michael From mconn2 at bright.net Wed Aug 8 17:25:30 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 19:25:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Voting Hints References: <20070808155812.SDGL9197.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <004401c7da13$6a5afc50$5834ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Robert, I'm getting more confused by the minute. What has cat threads got to do with rust buckets and death traps? I think I've lost my keys, or is it my mind. I can't grasp anything about what's going on. I've just bought a digital camera, and can't use it because I can't get it out of the box. I've also got a small plastic packet of something which I can't open. The shop told me it takes 400 pictures. (How can a small packet of something take 400 pictures? (I'm not stupid, you know.) What's their point. All I want is a roll of film to put in the camera (when I've got it out of the box). I bought the camera so I can send a picture or two of my AN5 to Ed, and now I'm not so sure. (Maybe I'll sell the AN5 to include a boxed camera and a small plastic of something. Michael From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Aug 8 17:30:31 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 18:30:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Voting Hints References: <20070808155812.SDGL9197.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <004401c7da13$6a5afc50$5834ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <00b101c7da14$1d044a50$0201a8c0@midget> > I'm getting more confused by the minute. What has cat threads got to do > with rust buckets and death traps? I think I've lost my keys, or is it > my > mind. I can't grasp anything about what's going on. That explains a lot ;-) "It's Christmas and I don't know where I am..." or some such carol. From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Wed Aug 8 18:47:18 2007 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 10:47:18 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] vac advance and italian side draught (draft) carbs In-Reply-To: <00bc01c7da14$95b4e590$0201a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <399300.33156.qm@web50604.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I really don't know... I will admit that I've always been a slacker when it came to distributors... by the time i get to that, i'm so itchy to drive the thing that i slap in what i had lying around...it runs? great! lets go for a drive! I'd like to do it right this time. Unfortunately, being a RHD country, the choices for replacement dizzies are very few.. as the steering column will foul a hitachi or many other (cheap) choices.. the 123 dizzies look good, but are expensive. I guess a mini one would be reasonably OK, as long as a side entry cap could be fitted/ modified to fit. I will be running a 270 degree cam, so i figure a re-curve would be wise. getting back to the vac advance... if i tap into my dellorto manifold and fit the vac-pipe to it, do you know if this is satisfactory? or will it all be wrong because of the different take-off point and differing vaccuum levels? thanks Andy David Lieb wrote: How far off do you think the curve from a 1275 Mini of a similar vintage might be? --------------------------------- Yahoo!7 Mail has just got even bigger and better with unlimited storage on all webmail accounts. Find out more. From RobertDuquette at Sympatico.ca Wed Aug 8 20:18:28 2007 From: RobertDuquette at Sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 22:18:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Voting Hints In-Reply-To: <004401c7da13$6a5afc50$5834ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> References: <20070808155812.SDGL9197.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <004401c7da13$6a5afc50$5834ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <000c01c7da2b$932c6e80$6401a8c0@RobertDuquette> The digital film is hard to find; I'll grant you that! -----Original Message----- From: Michael Conn [mailto:mconn2 at bright.net] Sent: August 8, 2007 7:26 PM To: Robert Duquette Cc: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Death Trap Voting Hints Robert, I'm getting more confused by the minute. What has cat threads got to do with rust buckets and death traps? I think I've lost my keys, or is it my mind. I can't grasp anything about what's going on. I've just bought a digital camera, and can't use it because I can't get it out of the box. I've also got a small plastic packet of something which I can't open. The shop told me it takes 400 pictures. (How can a small packet of something take 400 pictures? (I'm not stupid, you know.) What's their point. All I want is a roll of film to put in the camera (when I've got it out of the box). I bought the camera so I can send a picture or two of my AN5 to Ed, and now I'm not so sure. (Maybe I'll sell the AN5 to include a boxed camera and a small plastic of something. Michael From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Wed Aug 8 20:42:18 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 21:42:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Voting Hints References: <20070808155812.SDGL9197.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca><004401c7da13$6a5afc50$5834ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <000c01c7da2b$932c6e80$6401a8c0@RobertDuquette> Message-ID: <00bb01c7da2e$e9b2abe0$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> 'cause da pixils are too small, RD?? Anon PS: 'course if you think that's hard, try to find B & W Tri-X From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Wed Aug 8 20:47:26 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 21:47:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Voting Hints References: <20070808155812.SDGL9197.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <004401c7da13$6a5afc50$5834ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <00c701c7da2f$9ff52630$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> And the only reason for THAT problems Michael is that you lost the Five Language Direction for your Pocket Knife!!! Right?? RD From pilotrob at webtv.net Wed Aug 8 20:50:19 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 02:50:19 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP Message-ID: Many thanx for the update link on changes on the way with respect to Diesel Oils, Dave. Looks like it'll be specialty stuff like Oil Xtreme, Royal Purple and Redline among a few others which will end up the best oils for our older flat tappet motors, eh? Thanx again, Dave. You do us all a service by warning us in advance. :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Wed Aug 8 20:57:42 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 21:57:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP References: Message-ID: <018f01c7da31$10769cd0$6501a8c0@actualshop> As I sit here looking at my bottle of E.O.S. Lube, I am reminded to remind you (and List) to read the article on www.justbrits.com . From pilotrob at webtv.net Wed Aug 8 21:03:21 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 03:03:21 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] vac advance and italian side draught (draft) carbs Message-ID: For jetting, you might take a look at Vizard's recommendations per his book on tuning Series A engines utilizing Webers and Dellortos, Andy. Vac. advance offers more complete combustion under conditions of light throttle cruise and thus, slightly better fuel economy in this configuration. As a practical matter, you probably won't notice the difference considering you've upped the compression ratio (better torque in accordance with selected cam profile) in any event. Simply "cap off" (seal) the vac. advance port at the distributor and set timing to book spec. to begin with. Depending upon compression ratio, you'll be looking for no more than 34 degrees total advance and 30-32 might be a better idea considering today's "garbage" unleaded octanes, assuming a running water temp, of 180F or so. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Aug 8 21:27:06 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 23:27:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] SU fuel pump problem Message-ID: <46BA898A.6040100@comcast.net> Ok I put a bench tested SU on a Midget and it worked fine for a few miles then crapped out. I took another bench tested SU fuel pump and replaced the first one. I also checked that first pump on the bench and it seemed to work just fine. So tonight I take the car 4 miles into town to cruise night and it craps out as I was pulling into the parking spot. I tapped the fuel pump and it started ticking so I assumed it has a bum ground. Cruise night ends, Midget fires up and I leave only to get 1/2 way home and have the pump crap out. This time I crawl under and wiggle it but it's hot, very hot, and does not start ticking. Call my son to bring truck and rope but by the time he arrives, the fuel pump cooled down and starting working with out me beating on it. The car made it home. So what is causing the pump to get hot and crap out? I ran a new clean ground to the body of the pump. it works fine when cool, This is a new one on me. 2 pumps that work on the bench but not in the car. Wires are good, ground is good. These are stock SU points type pumps. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From wmgilroy at gmail.com Wed Aug 8 23:32:00 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 22:32:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] SU fuel pump problem In-Reply-To: <46BA898A.6040100@comcast.net> References: <46BA898A.6040100@comcast.net> Message-ID: <441250190708082232l552644e2o34e62f799aadbc36@mail.gmail.com> Could it be a restriction in the line causing it to work harder? Or maybe crap in the tank that is gumming up something and making it work harder. I doubt you could ever get more than 12V out of a Lucas electrical system; that said could it be running at > 12V. All WAGs on my part. -g On 8/8/07, Frank Clarici wrote: > > Ok I put a bench tested SU on a Midget and it worked fine for a few > miles then crapped out. I took another bench tested SU fuel pump and > replaced the first one. I also checked that first pump on the bench and > it seemed to work just fine. > So tonight I take the car 4 miles into town to cruise night and it craps > out as I was pulling into the parking spot. > I tapped the fuel pump and it started ticking so I assumed it has a bum > ground. > Cruise night ends, Midget fires up and I leave only to get 1/2 way home > and have the pump crap out. This time I crawl under and wiggle it but > it's hot, very hot, and does not start ticking. > Call my son to bring truck and rope but by the time he arrives, the fuel > pump cooled down and starting working with out me beating on it. > The car made it home. > So what is causing the pump to get hot and crap out? I ran a new clean > ground to the body of the pump. it works fine when cool, This is a new > one on me. 2 pumps that work on the bench but not in the car. > Wires are good, ground is good. These are stock SU points type pumps. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > wmgilroy at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Vote for Team Death Trap at http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx each day and vote for until Aug. 8th and forward this onto anyone who can help spread the word. From wmgilroy at gmail.com Thu Aug 9 00:02:22 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 23:02:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget FS Seattle area Message-ID: <441250190708082302j56e3dfa1w609ecb0daf11c5f@mail.gmail.com> http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/car/392361753.html NFI From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Thu Aug 9 09:03:12 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 08:03:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP References: <018f01c7da31$10769cd0$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <003301c7da96$695e8460$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Hi Ed, The article is good, but there have been some changes in formulation since article #3. Industry has reformulated those reccommended oils so little of the oils are available with the ZDDP at levels needed for our engines and the type of oil needed. Yes, Oil is not oil for lubrication purposes on engines. For the break in oils, it's now suggested that any HD30 weight with the Crane Super Lube added to it. At the moment, Crane is backordered on the additive. After break in there are but 3 oils that are suitable to use on our flat tappet engines. Valvoline VR-1 20-50 Castrol Syntec 20-50 Look for the notation on the bottle back, suitable for classic cars. Red Line 10-40 That's about it for now on the oils suitable for our newer old engines. I guess the days of whatever is on sale is OK for our cars is gone forever. Later, Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "63AHBJ7" <63ahbj7 at gmail.com> To: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ZDDP > As I sit here looking at my bottle of E.O.S. Lube, I am reminded to remind you > (and List) to read the article on www.justbrits.com . > _______________________________________________ > pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu Aug 9 12:40:48 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 14:40:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Stud Sockets In-Reply-To: <037501c7d9f7$a5d64120$6501a8c0@actualshop> References: <018801c7d9f6$11db10a0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <037501c7d9f7$a5d64120$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: I'm open to some education here: What's the matter with a couple of nuts jammed together to unscrew a stud? JohnD -----Original Message----- From: WJHS1960 [mailto:WJHS1960 at comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 4:07 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Stud Sockets Suggest you check out "The Best Stuf Removers" at http://www.justbrits.com/Articles.html From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Aug 9 13:10:47 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 15:10:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Stud Sockets Message-ID: <20070809191047.JOHX13659.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Well, you try it if you want ... but it sounds way too painful for this stud!!! ;) > From: "Deikis, John G" > > I'm open to some education here: What's the matter with a couple of > nuts jammed together to unscrew a stud? > JohnD From mark at nashvilletn.org Thu Aug 9 13:36:58 2007 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 14:36:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Stud Sockets References: <20070809191047.JOHX13659.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <008e01c7dabc$a6ef5cc0$8500a8c0@CT> Does unscrewing a stud make a Virgin? Well, you try it if you want ... but it sounds way too painful for this stud!!! ;) > From: "Deikis, John G" > > I'm open to some education here: What's the matter with a couple of > nuts jammed together to unscrew a stud? > JohnD _______________________________________________ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Aug 9 13:40:38 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 12:40:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Stud Sockets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Are the Craftsman 4458's not good anymore? I've been using mine for over 35 years. It's always worked fine. BZ From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Thu Aug 9 13:58:37 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 14:58:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [F500] NASCAR Coach Reveals Winning Strategy (OT) In-Reply-To: <02cb01c7dabb$87fe54c0$6401a8c0@cm50192a> References: <20070808143612.IMMI26965.fed1rmmtao105.cox.net@fed1rmimpo02.cox.net> <02cb01c7dabb$87fe54c0$6401a8c0@cm50192a> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0708091258t69c2168bvbd4dd79008cd16ee@mail.gmail.com> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: dogill80 at sbcglobal.net Date: Aug 9, 2007 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [F500] NASCAR Coach Reveals Winning Strategy (OT) To: f500 at f500.org I had trouble keeping up and had to replay to grasp the intent. A lot more technical than I had imagined. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David W. Riddle" To: ; ; Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 9:30 AM Subject: [F500] NASCAR Coach Reveals Winning Strategy > http://www.theonion.com/content/video/nascar_coach_reveals_winning ________________________________ FormulaCar Magazine - A Proud Supporter of Formula 500 The Official Publication of Junior Formula Car Racing Subscribe Today! www.formulacarmag.com or 519-624-2003 _________________________________ _______________________________________________ F500 mailing list - F500 at f500.org To unsubscribe or change options please visit: http://f500.org/mailman/listinfo/f500 *** Please, DO NOT send unsubscribe requests to the mailing list! *** -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata 1991 Mazda Miata Hardtop for sale - Reduced! $875 From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu Aug 9 14:17:13 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 16:17:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP In-Reply-To: <003301c7da96$695e8460$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <018f01c7da31$10769cd0$6501a8c0@actualshop> <003301c7da96$695e8460$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: Just a couple of weeks ago, I heard an oil engineer from Spectro do a tech on this at a bike rally. Afterwards, I asked him what I should run in old British cars with flat tappet cams if I did not want to spend $12 a quart for specialty motorcycle synthetics like his product. He said if I wanted to stick with dyno oil to choose any of the major diesel truck oils for a good dose of ZDDP. Stuff like Delo or Rotella-T. And what about the idea somebody threw out a few weeks ago about dosing our old 20-50 Castrol GTX with bottle of STP? Any validity to that? Necessity should be the mother of invention! JohnD -----Original Message----- From: Paul Asgeirsson [mailto:PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net] Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 11:03 AM To: 63AHBJ7; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ZDDP Hi Ed, The article is good, but there have been some changes in formulation since article #3. Industry has reformulated those reccommended oils so little of the oils are available with the ZDDP at levels needed for our engines and the type of oil needed. Yes, Oil is not oil for lubrication purposes on engines. For the break in oils, it's now suggested that any HD30 weight with the Crane Super Lube added to it. At the moment, Crane is backordered on the additive. After break in there are but 3 oils that are suitable to use on our flat tappet engines. Valvoline VR-1 20-50 Castrol Syntec 20-50 Look for the notation on the bottle back, suitable for classic cars. Red Line 10-40 That's about it for now on the oils suitable for our newer old engines. I guess the days of whatever is on sale is OK for our cars is gone forever. Later, Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "63AHBJ7" <63ahbj7 at gmail.com> To: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ZDDP > As I sit here looking at my bottle of E.O.S. Lube, I am reminded to remind you > (and List) to read the article on www.justbrits.com . > _______________________________________________ > pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu Aug 9 15:40:25 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 14:40:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] SU fuel pump problem In-Reply-To: <46BA898A.6040100@comcast.net> References: <46BA898A.6040100@comcast.net> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10708091440m5a9dc58fv7a47bcb3a354eb72@mail.gmail.com> Filter before pump? On 8/8/07, Frank Clarici wrote: > > Ok I put a bench tested SU on a Midget and it worked fine for a few > miles then crapped out. I took another bench tested SU fuel pump and > replaced the first one. I also checked that first pump on the bench and > it seemed to work just fine. > So tonight I take the car 4 miles into town to cruise night and it craps > out as I was pulling into the parking spot. > I tapped the fuel pump and it started ticking so I assumed it has a bum > ground. > Cruise night ends, Midget fires up and I leave only to get 1/2 way home > and have the pump crap out. This time I crawl under and wiggle it but > it's hot, very hot, and does not start ticking. > Call my son to bring truck and rope but by the time he arrives, the fuel > pump cooled down and starting working with out me beating on it. > The car made it home. > So what is causing the pump to get hot and crap out? I ran a new clean > ground to the body of the pump. it works fine when cool, This is a new > one on me. 2 pumps that work on the bench but not in the car. > Wires are good, ground is good. These are stock SU points type pumps. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > froggi60 at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Aug 9 15:44:10 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 16:44:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SU fuel pump problem In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10708091440m5a9dc58fv7a47bcb3a354eb72@mail.gmail.com> References: <46BA898A.6040100@comcast.net> <2ad6c6b10708091440m5a9dc58fv7a47bcb3a354eb72@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7F2F830D-F0C2-4692-BF44-B21AF1792ED3@comcast.net> 6v pump and 12 v car? Lester On Aug 9, 2007, at 4:40 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > Filter before pump? > > On 8/8/07, Frank Clarici wrote: >> >> Ok I put a bench tested SU on a Midget and it worked fine for a few >> miles then crapped out. I took another bench tested SU fuel pump and >> replaced the first one. I also checked that first pump on the >> bench and >> it seemed to work just fine. >> So tonight I take the car 4 miles into town to cruise night and it >> craps >> out as I was pulling into the parking spot. >> I tapped the fuel pump and it started ticking so I assumed it has >> a bum >> ground. >> Cruise night ends, Midget fires up and I leave only to get 1/2 way >> home >> and have the pump crap out. This time I crawl under and wiggle it but >> it's hot, very hot, and does not start ticking. >> Call my son to bring truck and rope but by the time he arrives, >> the fuel >> pump cooled down and starting working with out me beating on it. >> The car made it home. >> So what is causing the pump to get hot and crap out? I ran a new >> clean >> ground to the body of the pump. it works fine when cool, This is a >> new >> one on me. 2 pumps that work on the bench but not in the car. >> Wires are good, ground is good. These are stock SU points type pumps. >> >> -- >> Frank Clarici >> Toms River, NJ >> _______________________________________________ >> froggi60 at gmail.com >> >> Edit your replies >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Aug 9 15:45:35 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 16:45:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake question for racer types.. Message-ID: <1AB2BB09-1C15-4A85-A16E-DD3341B7C7CD@comcast.net> Ok all you racer types, what is the reason or reasons for going to -3 or -4 AN brake line instead of good ol' 45 deg flared stuff?? Lester From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Aug 9 15:49:18 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:49:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Castrol GTX with bottle of STP? STP still contains ZDDP, but they don't tell you how much. It used to be the main ingredient, but now it's listed last instead of first. Presumably, STP 4cyl. in the red bottle would be better than the regular blue bottle because it's main function isn't to raise viscosity. It's too bad we can't just buy ZDDP. I'll bet one quart would last a long time. BZ From nases at verizon.net Thu Aug 9 16:10:38 2007 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 18:10:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake line location Message-ID: <000001c7dad2$1e813500$7001a8c0@na.sjcount.com> In a stock bugeye setup does the brake line from the switch run down the outboard or inboard side of the frame rail to the rear of the car? Thanks. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa From mconn2 at bright.net Thu Aug 9 16:57:28 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 18:57:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Message-ID: <000a01c7dad8$a9d79ee0$cd34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Listers, I non-LBC queston! I'd lke to look for a person who moved from England to South Africa some years ago. Any ideas as to the best way to go about this? Michael From mconn2 at bright.net Thu Aug 9 17:06:02 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 19:06:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Voting Hints References: <20070808155812.SDGL9197.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca><004401c7da13$6a5afc50$5834ffd8@YOURD28EB17757><000c01c7da2b$932c6e80$6401a8c0@RobertDuquette> <00bb01c7da2e$e9b2abe0$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <001801c7dad9$dc087a50$cd34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> I'll take your word for that. (Although I can't altogether understand what you're talking about!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "63AHBJ7" <63ahbj7 at gmail.com> To: "'spridgets'" Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Death Trap Voting Hints > <> > > 'cause da pixils are too small, RD?? > > Anon > > PS: 'course if you think that's hard, try to find B & W Tri-X > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mconn2 at bright.net Thu Aug 9 17:10:04 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 19:10:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Death Trap Voting Hints References: <20070808155812.SDGL9197.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca><004401c7da13$6a5afc50$5834ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <00c701c7da2f$9ff52630$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <001d01c7dada$6c196dc0$cd34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Is that what I did wrong? Whilst we're on the subject does anyone know who to operate a Swiss Army officers knife? I was an officer, but don't remember receiving instruction how to do that. Then again, I wasn't in the Swiss Army. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "63AHBJ7" <63ahbj7 at gmail.com> To: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 10:47 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Death Trap Voting Hints > <> > > And the only reason for THAT problems Michael is that you lost the Five > Language Direction for your Pocket Knife!!! > > Right?? > > RD > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Aug 9 17:48:26 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 18:48:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP In-Reply-To: <003301c7da96$695e8460$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <018f01c7da31$10769cd0$6501a8c0@actualshop> <003301c7da96$695e8460$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: Ok, and the reason we can't use Rotella T is again?? Lester On Aug 9, 2007, at 10:03 AM, Paul Asgeirsson wrote: > Hi Ed, > > The article is good, but there have been some changes in > formulation since > article #3. Industry has reformulated those reccommended oils so > little of > the oils are available with the ZDDP at levels needed for our > engines and > the type of oil needed. Yes, Oil is not oil for lubrication > purposes on > engines. > > For the break in oils, it's now suggested that any HD30 weight with > the > Crane Super Lube added to it. At the moment, Crane is backordered > on the > additive. After break in there are but 3 oils that are suitable to > use on > our flat tappet engines. > > Valvoline VR-1 20-50 > Castrol Syntec 20-50 Look for the notation on the bottle back, > suitable for > classic cars. > Red Line 10-40 > > That's about it for now on the oils suitable for our newer old > engines. > > I guess the days of whatever is on sale is OK for our cars is gone > forever. > > Later, Paul A > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "63AHBJ7" <63ahbj7 at gmail.com> > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 7:57 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ZDDP > > >> As I sit here looking at my bottle of E.O.S. Lube, I am reminded >> to remind > you >> (and List) to read the article on www.justbrits.com . >> _______________________________________________ >> pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net >> >> Edit your replies >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Aug 9 17:56:13 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 16:56:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <000a01c7dad8$a9d79ee0$cd34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <972839.48330.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Michael Conn wrote: > I'd lke to look for a person who moved from England > to South Africa some years > ago. Any ideas as to the best way to go about > this? Michael, Turn right at France. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz From mconn2 at bright.net Thu Aug 9 18:01:12 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 20:01:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) References: <972839.48330.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000801c7dae1$90e1c380$cd34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Ron, Will that work, if I'm here in the US? Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Michael Conn" ; "spridgets" Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject) > --- Michael Conn wrote: >> I'd lke to look for a person who moved from England >> to South Africa some years >> ago. Any ideas as to the best way to go about >> this? > > Michael, > > Turn right at France. > > Ron > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Luggage? GPS? Comic books? > Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz From pilotrob at webtv.net Thu Aug 9 18:06:46 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 00:06:46 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] SU fuel pump problem Message-ID: "points-type" pumps. When points-type pumps begin to fail, you tap their body with a hammer. That usually gets 'em goin' for a while. But in the end, you gotta open 'em up and "clean 'em up".....dress the points, clean up any/all electrical stuff and renew diaphragms if so equipped etc. But at least you get a "warning" before hand. With the electronic types, they usually just quit....and stay that way! "Hard-time" replacement of electronic pumps based on miles or time in service (I replace my LP Facet/filter every 4-5 years, whether it needs it or not) prevents this problem, for which tow insurance (also bearing in mind modern electronic "HI" ignitions which can also simply quit at any time) was created. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Thu Aug 9 18:17:09 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 17:17:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Another Tach Drive on Ebay Message-ID: <28a4a6d5fa659aa6336a.20070809171709.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Here is another original brand new tach drive gear box on Ebay. NFI http://tinyurl.com/256t7l Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Thu Aug 9 18:51:15 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 19:51:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) References: <972839.48330.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <015d01c7dae8$95115f40$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> ASSuming he is coming from UK or USA, Ron?? Be REALLY bad if coming from Russia!!! TSW From dmg at bossig.com Thu Aug 9 18:53:47 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:53:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <015d01c7dae8$95115f40$6501a8c0@actualshop> References: <972839.48330.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <015d01c7dae8$95115f40$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <46BB54AB.31981.26E3650@dmg.bossig.com> But he'dstill get there.............. eventually!! On 9 Aug 2007 at 19:51, WJHS1960 wrote: >> Be REALLY bad if coming from Russia!!! - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Thu Aug 9 18:55:10 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 19:55:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Another Tach Drive on Ebay References: <28a4a6d5fa659aa6336a.20070809171709.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <016901c7dae9$1af46d50$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> Like his other products Mike, sure looks like Moss product!?!?!? From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Aug 9 19:05:34 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 21:05:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Another Tach Drive on Ebay In-Reply-To: <28a4a6d5fa659aa6336a.20070809171709.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <28a4a6d5fa659aa6336a.20070809171709.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <46BBB9DE.9060902@comcast.net> rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: > Here is another original brand new tach drive gear box on Ebay. NFI > > http://tinyurl.com/256t7l That is a cheapo repro. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Thu Aug 9 19:24:49 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 20:24:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) References: <972839.48330.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <015d01c7dae8$95115f40$6501a8c0@actualshop> <46BB54AB.31981.26E3650@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <01f401c7daed$3ee703e0$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> er, HOW Dave??? Going fully around the globe wouldn't he STILL be going WRONG way?? From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Aug 9 20:00:57 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 22:00:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake line location In-Reply-To: <000001c7dad2$1e813500$7001a8c0@na.sjcount.com> References: <000001c7dad2$1e813500$7001a8c0@na.sjcount.com> Message-ID: <46BBC6D9.5020907@comcast.net> Phil Nase wrote: > In a stock bugeye setup does the brake line from the switch run down the > outboard or inboard side of the frame rail to the rear of the car? Phil The brake line runs on the outer side of the rail, fuel line runs inboard. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From dmg at bossig.com Thu Aug 9 20:05:25 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 19:05:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <01f401c7daed$3ee703e0$6501a8c0@actualshop> References: <972839.48330.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <01f401c7daed$3ee703e0$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <46BB6575.32199.2AFCB22@dmg.bossig.com> If he goes North or South at Paris he would, after a few long cold swimming sessions and a long walk, end up in Algiers. From there he could hire a camel to Dakar, then overland in a SUV to Jo'burg. On the other hand, his chances of surviving the hostiles on the way are very small. So going by Air might be better - except perhaps (from personal experience) on TAP or such... On 9 Aug 2007 at 20:24, WJHS1960 wrote: >> <> >> >> er, HOW Dave??? >> >> Going fully around the globe wouldn't he STILL be going WRONG way?? - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Thu Aug 9 20:14:27 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 21:14:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) References: <972839.48330.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <01f401c7daed$3ee703e0$6501a8c0@actualshop> <46BB6575.32199.2AFCB22@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <003301c7daf4$2f109600$6501a8c0@actualshop> UPS??? FedEx??? From davriker at digitalpath.net Thu Aug 9 21:00:22 2007 From: davriker at digitalpath.net (David Riker) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 20:00:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP References: <018f01c7da31$10769cd0$6501a8c0@actualshop> <003301c7da96$695e8460$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <006301c7dafa$983b70e0$6400a8c0@dave> Sounds like it's time for someone to engineer a roller tappet conversion kit for the A-series engine...... David Riker davriker at digitalpath.net http://community.webshots.com/user/fool4mg http://www.myspace.com/fool4mg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Asgeirsson" To: "63AHBJ7" <63ahbj7 at gmail.com>; "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ZDDP > Hi Ed, > > The article is good, but there have been some changes in formulation since > article #3. Industry has reformulated those reccommended oils so little > of > the oils are available with the ZDDP at levels needed for our engines and > the type of oil needed. Yes, Oil is not oil for lubrication purposes on > engines. > > For the break in oils, it's now suggested that any HD30 weight with the > Crane Super Lube added to it. At the moment, Crane is backordered on the > additive. After break in there are but 3 oils that are suitable to use on > our flat tappet engines. > > Valvoline VR-1 20-50 > Castrol Syntec 20-50 Look for the notation on the bottle back, suitable > for > classic cars. > Red Line 10-40 > > That's about it for now on the oils suitable for our newer old engines. > > I guess the days of whatever is on sale is OK for our cars is gone > forever. > > Later, Paul A From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Thu Aug 9 21:03:31 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 20:03:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Another Tach Drive on Ebay In-Reply-To: <46BBB9DE.9060902@comcast.net> References: <28a4a6d5fa659aa6336a.20070809171709.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <46BBB9DE.9060902@comcast.net> Message-ID: <18b4a427ba3dc2a3c4ea.20070809200331.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> O.K. My bad. Sure got some sharp eyes looking out for everyone on this list. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Frank Clarici > rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: >> Here is another original brand new tach drive gear box on Ebay. NFI >> >> http://tinyurl.com/256t7l > > That is a cheapo repro. > > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Thu Aug 9 23:47:02 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 22:47:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP References: Message-ID: <008401c7db11$e14b8ba0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> >From Keith Ansell: Pa Ok, here's what I understand: I'll start with the Kendall GT-1 Racing oil. Racing oils commonly have very light buffer additive packages and are NOT good for the street unless they are changed, in some cases, in as little as 100 miles or 30 days. They usually will have ZDDP at about 1200 Ppm or higher. The additive packages in a racing oil to reduce the destruction of our engines from water, acids and particle suspension are almost non-existant. This is why with the Valvoline VR-1 20W-50 they are adamant that 2,500 miles or one season is the MOST you should ever run it and their oil IS formulated to be ok for the street. I would suggest that this person addresses the Street vs. Race qualities of this oil. I have talked to Pennzoil (Penn) and they have stated that they have NO oil for the street. Remember the Pennzoil name is now owned by Shell, a Dutch company. Caterpillar oil- Again we have a formulation problem. The short idle to full throttle cycles of automobile use, the chartaristics of diesel combustion and the long cycles of diesel running demand a buffer/additive package that is not correct for street or racing. I would guess that the ZDDP would be very high in these oils and from that standpoint they may be within the range we are looking for for this compound. The problem is nothing else in the oil is formulated correctly for our engines. Good thought process in both these cases but neither will do our engines any good. From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Fri Aug 10 02:24:51 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 01:24:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP In-Reply-To: <008401c7db11$e14b8ba0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <008401c7db11$e14b8ba0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <14520a36af8a32cd0a319b0a.20070810012451.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Paul, How about V-Twin motorcycle oil like I use in my Harley? That engine is 20s-30s technology. Like Amsoil, Redline, Spectro, Mobil 1? Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Paul Asgeirsson >>From Keith Ansell: > > Pa > > > Ok, here's what I understand: > > I'll start with the Kendall GT-1 Racing oil. Racing oils commonly have > very > light buffer additive packages and are NOT good for the street unless they > are changed, in some cases, in as little as 100 miles or 30 days. They > usually will have ZDDP at about 1200 Ppm or higher. The additive packages > in > a racing oil to reduce the destruction of our engines from water, acids > and > particle suspension are almost non-existant. This is why with the > Valvoline > VR-1 20W-50 they are adamant that 2,500 miles or one season is the MOST > you > should ever run it and their oil IS formulated to be ok for the street. I > would suggest that this person addresses the Street vs. Race qualities of > this oil. I have talked to Pennzoil (Penn) and they have stated that they > have NO oil for the street. Remember the Pennzoil name is now owned by > Shell, a Dutch company. > > Caterpillar oil- Again we have a formulation problem. The short idle to > full > throttle cycles of automobile use, the chartaristics of diesel combustion > and the long cycles of diesel running demand a buffer/additive package > that > is not correct for street or racing. I would guess that the ZDDP would be > very high in these oils and from that standpoint they may be within the > range we are looking for for this compound. The problem is nothing else in > the oil is formulated correctly for our engines. > > Good thought process in both these cases but neither will do our engines > any > good. From dmeadow at juno.com Fri Aug 10 04:53:06 2007 From: dmeadow at juno.com (dmeadow at juno.com) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 05:53:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Stud Sockets Message-ID: <20070810.055307.2172.0.dmeadow@juno.com> I bought a set of four from Jegs (www.jegs.com). Look like regular sockets but have a cam mechanism inside. I tried one of the one-size-fits-all big cam tools from HF, but it wouldn't release very easily and it eventually broke. I was using the double-nut method until I bought the Jegs set, which is OK if you only build one engine every ten years. David On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 11:21:36 -0700 (PDT) rrengineer at dslextreme.com writes: > Another head stud question. Any of you guys use stud sockets of any > type > to install your studs? If so, where to buy and what cost? The > same > engine builder friend of mine suggested cheap head stud sockets that > work > with washers somehow. He said you could get a cheap Chinky setup > and just > throw them out after using them. Horrible Fright Have these? > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > _______________________________________________ From pilotrob at webtv.net Fri Aug 10 05:08:55 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:08:55 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP Message-ID: I'm using 15W-40 Rotella mixed with Oil Xtreme further fortified with Oil Xtreme concentrate. ZDDP, etc. out the yingyang! :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From John.Deikis at va.gov Fri Aug 10 07:22:57 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 09:22:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is America. We should be able to buy anything. Here's an entrepreneurial opportunity for you: ZOOM'S DOUBLE DETERGENT PETROLEUM product ("ZDDP") Our motto: "Made for you father's Oldsmobile!" -----Original Message----- From: Billy Zoom [mailto:billyzoom at billyzoom.com] Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 5:49 PM To: Deikis, John G; Paul Asgeirsson; 63AHBJ7; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ZDDP > Castrol GTX with bottle of STP? STP still contains ZDDP, but they don't tell you how much. It used to be the main ingredient, but now it's listed last instead of first. Presumably, STP 4cyl. in the red bottle would be better than the regular blue bottle because it's main function isn't to raise viscosity. It's too bad we can't just buy ZDDP. I'll bet one quart would last a long time. BZ From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net Fri Aug 10 11:03:14 2007 From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (Richard Feibusch) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 09:03:14 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Wanted - Sad Story Message-ID: Dear Readers, I just have been contacted by Debra Kadner of the San Francisco Bay Area who managed to wreck her beloved red Bugeye while participating in the Alpine 500 rallye. Neither Debra or her sister were hurt but the car is unrepairable (rolled - no roll bar - YIKES!) and she is looking for a car to replace it. While she would like to find a complete finished and upgraded car, a clean solid builder would also be OK as she kept the remains of her old car for parts. I am looking here in LA and she is working with some folks up nprth but we have been unable to find anything suitable. If you have any ideas or know of anything that might fit the bill, please contact Debra. Debra Kadner 408-718-9905 From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Fri Aug 10 10:36:05 2007 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:36:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Wanted - Sad Story Message-ID: <22611489.1186763765207.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Ebay has lots of Bugeyes for sale. Take a look there. MC -----Original Message----- >From: Richard Feibusch >Sent: Aug 10, 2007 1:03 PM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net, morris at autox.team.net, healeys at autox.team.net, mini-list at autox.team.net >Cc: morris_motors at yahoogroups.com, DONALD RACINE >Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Wanted - Sad Story > >Dear Readers, >I just have been contacted by Debra Kadner of the San Francisco Bay Area who managed to wreck her beloved red Bugeye while participating in the Alpine 500 rallye. Neither Debra or her sister were hurt but the car is unrepairable (rolled - no roll bar - YIKES!) and she is looking for a car to replace it. While she would like to find a complete finished and upgraded car, a clean solid builder would also be OK as she kept the remains of her old car for parts. > >I am looking here in LA and she is working with some folks up nprth but we have been unable to find anything suitable. If you have any ideas or know of anything that might fit the bill, please contact Debra. > >Debra Kadner >408-718-9905 > ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Fri Aug 10 12:09:06 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:09:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP In-Reply-To: <008401c7db11$e14b8ba0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <264229.48080.qm@web38911.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Gang, The guy down the street works for Kandall. He told me that what Paul said is true with most of the oils for general public today. To look for comercial oils and you will find more ZDDP in those products because it is a better grade of oil over all in most cases. He said one of there products has 1500 ppm ZDDP. He did not think any one would want more then that in there car engine. He thought any thing over 1000 PPM should be enough for any old motor. Which brought up my question. What do you look for as far as PPM for ZDDP? Vigil Paul Asgeirsson wrote: >From Keith Ansell: Pa Ok, here's what I understand: I'll start with the Kendall GT-1 Racing oil. Racing oils commonly have very light buffer additive packages and are NOT good for the street unless they are changed, in some cases, in as little as 100 miles or 30 days. They usually will have ZDDP at about 1200 Ppm or higher. The additive packages in a racing oil to reduce the destruction of our engines from water, acids and particle suspension are almost non-existant. This is why with the Valvoline VR-1 20W-50 they are adamant that 2,500 miles or one season is the MOST you should ever run it and their oil IS formulated to be ok for the street. I would suggest that this person addresses the Street vs. Race qualities of this oil. I have talked to Pennzoil (Penn) and they have stated that they have NO oil for the street. Remember the Pennzoil name is now owned by Shell, a Dutch company. Caterpillar oil- Again we have a formulation problem. The short idle to full throttle cycles of automobile use, the chartaristics of diesel combustion and the long cycles of diesel running demand a buffer/additive package that is not correct for street or racing. I would guess that the ZDDP would be very high in these oils and from that standpoint they may be within the range we are looking for for this compound. The problem is nothing else in the oil is formulated correctly for our engines. Good thought process in both these cases but neither will do our engines any good. _______________________________________________ uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Aug 10 14:02:44 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 16:02:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] free car cleaner ??? Message-ID: <000c01c7db89$7b5ea070$6401a8c0@RobertDuquette> I haven't checked this out, but I'm told it's a 100% rebate . http://www.carcare.dupont.com/promo/promotions.stm all disclaimers apply From dmg at bossig.com Fri Aug 10 14:56:24 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:56:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] SU's -- such is life...!! Message-ID: <46BC6E88.6614.19724D2@dmg.bossig.com> I only just worked it out... I have 1&1/4" Mini SU's on a 1275 manifold on (I suspect) a Mini cylinder head. Which explains why my SU float bowls are canted 10 degrees off of vertical!! Suc is life!! - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From peter at nosimport.com Fri Aug 10 15:02:08 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 16:02:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SU's -- such is life...!! In-Reply-To: <46BC6E88.6614.19724D2@dmg.bossig.com> References: <46BC6E88.6614.19724D2@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070810160007.01b80cb8@nosimport.com> Is the manifold Mini and/or the carbs? You can get different angled rubber grommets to solve the carb issue, but the manifold should be corrected if nec. Peter C == At 03:56 PM 8/10/2007, Dave G. wrote: >I only just worked it out... >I have 1&1/4" Mini SU's on a 1275 manifold on (I suspect) a Mini cylinder >head. >Which explains why my SU float bowls are canted 10 degrees off of >vertical!! >Suc is life!! > >- >Dave G >'65 MKIII Sprite From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Aug 10 17:45:49 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:45:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Wanted - Sad Story In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <205cef430708101645h5a17d052j1d1e59ccd50026d9@mail.gmail.com> Richard, I just sent her a message regarding a 59 for $600 out west. Hope she gets it : ) Linda On 8/10/07, Richard Feibusch wrote: > > Dear Readers, > I just have been contacted by Debra Kadner of the San Francisco Bay Area > who managed to wreck her beloved red Bugeye while participating in the > Alpine 500 rallye. Neither Debra or her sister were hurt but the car is > unrepairable (rolled - no roll bar - YIKES!) and she is looking for a car to > replace it. While she would like to find a complete finished and upgraded > car, a clean solid builder would also be OK as she kept the remains of her > old car for parts. > > I am looking here in LA and she is working with some folks up nprth but we > have been unable to find anything suitable. If you have any ideas or know of > anything that might fit the bill, please contact Debra. > > Debra Kadner > 408-718-9905 > > _______________________________________________ > grunthaner at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From froggi60 at gmail.com Fri Aug 10 17:47:12 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 16:47:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <000a01c7dad8$a9d79ee0$cd34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> References: <000a01c7dad8$a9d79ee0$cd34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10708101647u4d9d7e0en296f1981338c8ed7@mail.gmail.com> Perhaps he's a list member.... From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Fri Aug 10 18:45:33 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:45:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Gauge part anyone?? Message-ID: Good evening all, i am trying to find the dohickey that holds the light for the double gauge. I retro fitted a "proper" gauge but I don't own the fitting.. anyone have one that they would be willing to part with?? Thanks, Lester From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Aug 10 18:57:32 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:57:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Any Listers Near Tacoma WA? Message-ID: <011301c7dbb2$9a936100$6401a8c0@Larry> Gentlemen, A very good friend of mine has a son attending college in Tacoma, WA. While his son was doing some research in Budapest, someone stole his car from in front of the home of one of his professor's. His prof was taking care of the car while he was overseas. Anyhow, this friend of mine, who is also a prof/author/lecturer type in Indiana and who knows absolutely nothing about cars, needs to get a new car for his kid over on the left coast. The problem is that his kid knows even less about cars. Is there anybody in the Tacoma area who can hold his hand and make sure he doesn't get ripped off by an unscrupulous seller? He really is a good kid, incredibly bright like his father, but totally clueless about cars. Junior is presently in Utah doing more research before returning to classes in Tacoma for the fall semester. Can anybody help? I'll be talking to his dad on Sunday and can get more details then. Let me know. And thanks. Larry Daniels 79 MGB LE 60 Bugeye 67 Austin A60 Pickup (Ute) "You only need two tools: WD-40 and Duct Tape. If it doesn't move and should, use the WD-40. If it shouldn't move and does, use the duct tape." From d.swanson at earthlink.net Fri Aug 10 19:38:06 2007 From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 21:38:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Mini Intake Message-ID: <3ED3E77656D84D4CB674F42C229F99CA@HomeComputer> There has been talk before that a single carb mini intake will not work on a Spridget because the hood will hit the top of the carb dash pot. Is this the case for both a bugeye and square body? Dean '62 A.H. Sprite mkII Holly Springs, NC From dmg at bossig.com Fri Aug 10 20:56:21 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:56:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Confused as heck... Message-ID: <46BCC2E5.9480.2E0AEF1@dmg.bossig.com> I should learn NOT to jump to conclusions...!! I have just removed and cleaned the inlet manifold and SU's, and I find the following.. 1) The manifold is marked 12g1450 - which is correct for a 1275 motor. and, 2)Cleaning off the Aluminum paint from the carbs I find the tabs are stamped AUD328F/R - which is also correct for a 1275 motor. SO why are my float bowls leaning at an angle intead of being upright?? I'm soooo confused !! - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Aug 10 21:05:14 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 23:05:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Confused as heck... In-Reply-To: <46BCC2E5.9480.2E0AEF1@dmg.bossig.com> References: <46BCC2E5.9480.2E0AEF1@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <46BD276A.5050604@comcast.net> Dave G. wrote: > SO why are my float bowls leaning at an angle intead of being upright?? > I'm soooo confused !! My guess is the tabs where the floats bolt on have sheared off. I have several SUs with snapped off tabs. They work fine with just the rubber grommet as long as you don't do roll overs or highly banked curves at high speeds. Try moving the float bowl by hand, you should have some resistance against the runner grommet but it will move. If not the DPO has the front/rear grommets on the wrong carbs, they are handed. If you can loosen the float bowl bolt some, check for the lock tabs before moving the bowls. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Fri Aug 10 21:52:34 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 20:52:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Confused as heck... References: <46BCC2E5.9480.2E0AEF1@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <00e301c7dbcb$100733e0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Hi Dave, Well, the carb body should be at about a 10 or 15 degree angle as that's what the manifold should be. Manifold vertical at the block, angled at the carb body. Then the floats should be vertical. It's possible that someone rebuilt them with the wrong rubber piece that goes between the carb body and the float bowl. They come in several angles. Hope this helps some. OTOH, is the car setting on a side hill?? Just wondering. Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G." To: "spridgets" Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 7:56 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Confused as heck... > I should learn NOT to jump to conclusions...!! > > I have just removed and cleaned the inlet manifold and SU's, and I find the > following.. > 1) The manifold is marked 12g1450 - which is correct for a 1275 motor. > and, > 2)Cleaning off the Aluminum paint from the carbs I find the tabs are > stamped AUD328F/R - which is also correct for a 1275 motor. > > SO why are my float bowls leaning at an angle intead of being upright?? > I'm soooo confused !! > > - > Dave G > '65 MKIII Sprite > _______________________________________________ > pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dmg at bossig.com Fri Aug 10 22:00:24 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 21:00:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Confused as heck... In-Reply-To: <00e301c7dbcb$100733e0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <46BCC2E5.9480.2E0AEF1@dmg.bossig.com>, <00e301c7dbcb$100733e0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <46BCD1E8.16786.31B5067@dmg.bossig.com> Paul, The carb body is at an angle but the float chamber is also at a smaller angle! Frank suggested that maybe the PO put the grommets on the wrong carbs as the are 'handed'. Looking from the front of the car they are turned about 10 degrees clockwise. So I am assuming that they are 30 degree grommets and that I need a pair of 20 degree grommets. That would bring them back counter-clockwise by 10 degrees and should put them vertical. In the meantime I have them well balanced and 'singing' nicely. I might just leave well enough alone?? On 10 Aug 2007 at 20:52, Paul Asgeirsson wrote: >> Then the floats should be vertical. >> >> It's possible that someone rebuilt them with the wrong rubber piece that >> goes between the carb body and the float bowl. They come in several >> angles. - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From mark at nashvilletn.org Sat Aug 11 08:07:26 2007 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 09:07:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP References: Message-ID: <01a001c7dc20$f31ff310$0600a8c0@Dell9200> Does anybody know if Canada is adopting the same reduced ZDDP requirements as the US? I am going to be there next week and thought I might drag a case or two back with me if it the good old stuff. Mark Nashville http://www.arrestmered.com From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Sat Aug 11 08:17:47 2007 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 00:17:47 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] belt drive...crankshaft shims? In-Reply-To: <01a001c7dc20$f31ff310$0600a8c0@Dell9200> Message-ID: <952707.59190.qm@web50603.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Greetings, I wonder if anyone can tell me how to set up the TRIGER belt drive timing gears. Do I need to shim the crank sprocket? Doesn't seem as criticial as a chain driven timing set. cheers Andy --------------------------------- Sick of deleting your inbox? Yahoo!7 Mail has free unlimited storage. Get it now. From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Sat Aug 11 11:14:34 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 10:14:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP In-Reply-To: <01a001c7dc20$f31ff310$0600a8c0@Dell9200> Message-ID: <704603.37395.qm@web38915.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mark, I would be surprised if it was not in effect already. Canada in some cases are more strict on some types of laws then the USA. I believe it was Drag racing (If not, a car sport) Canada did not want them to burn the fuel they were using because of their pollution laws. The track applied for a exemption for the race day event. They were turned down and told to run different fuel or not at all. Need less to say the track is no longer on the schedule and another one was added in the USA. Vigil Mark wrote: Does anybody know if Canada is adopting the same reduced ZDDP requirements as the US? I am going to be there next week and thought I might drag a case or two back with me if it the good old stuff. Mark Nashville http://www.arrestmered.com _______________________________________________ uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Aug 11 11:41:55 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 12:41:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI for US veterans... Message-ID: <43840a7e0708111041p7358789cy1ef9f04f5f66e52d@mail.gmail.com> Just found out about this and thought any US veterans on the lists might like to know... Cheers!! Jim WASHINGTON, D.C. - U.S. Senator Jim Inhofe (R-Okla.) today praised the passage by unanimous consent of his bill (S.1877) clarifying U.S. law to allow veterans and servicemen not in uniform to salute the flag. Current l aw (US Code Title 4, Chapter 1) states that veterans and servicemen not in uniform should place their hand over their heart without clarifying whether they can or should salute the flag. "The salute is a form of honor and respect, representing pride in one's military service," Senator Inhofe said. "Veterans and service members continue representing the military services even when not in uniform."Unfortunately, current U.S. law leaves confusion as to whether veterans and service members out of uniform can or should salute the flag. My legislation will clarify this regulation, allowing veterans and servicemen alike to salute the flag, whether they are in uniform or not."I look forward to seeing those who have served saluting proudly at baseball games, parades, and formal events. I believe this is an appropriate way to honor and recognize the 25 million veterans in the United States who have served in the military and remain as role models to others citizens. Those who are currently serving or have served in the military have earned this right, and their recognition will be an inspiration to others." -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From froggi60 at gmail.com Sat Aug 11 11:45:03 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 10:45:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Any Listers Near Tacoma WA? In-Reply-To: <011301c7dbb2$9a936100$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <011301c7dbb2$9a936100$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10708111045o5fcdfce5ld6f0a85c7b8c36fb@mail.gmail.com> Paul's close. From froggi60 at gmail.com Sat Aug 11 11:55:16 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 10:55:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI for US veterans... In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0708111041p7358789cy1ef9f04f5f66e52d@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0708111041p7358789cy1ef9f04f5f66e52d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10708111055r5bbdf9abj123931fde49501b8@mail.gmail.com> THANK YOU JIM! It's about time. I've always felt I (vets and active) should be allowed to salute. Now we can. Herb From hal at katemuir.com Sat Aug 11 13:43:14 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 12:43:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] RWA midget on Craig's list $500 Message-ID: http://tinyurl.com/2z9ymz In Northern CA. NFI etc From froggi60 at gmail.com Sat Aug 11 14:13:15 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 13:13:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC by any other name.... Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10708111313jab472dfodcb566a4042b0f1c@mail.gmail.com> Spridgeteers, Like many of you, I've owned LBC's over thirty years. It's a love/hate relation we live with. But I've got to tell you...my TR8 is such an enjoyment to drive I could (well, not really) not spend another hour behind the wheel of a Bugeye. According to recent articles in the past two issues of Hemmings "Sports & Exotics", they are a car you should own; ten cars selected. The Bugeye was one of the ten as well, so was the Tiger. Don't recall the others. The car has power; excellent steering; comfortable seating; adequate leg room...and...air conditioning (on most cars). Which makes it a great car for trips, IMHO. Overall, I have to say, it's one of the best handling cars I've owned...period; Porsche & Corvettes included. There have been a couple on ebay recently, one gorgeous black FHC with a flawless body; $8,500.00. Check 'em out, you won't be disappointed. I've been living with mine now for seven years. Used it as my daily driver through two winters and three summers. Don't wait too long on buying one, they are rapidly appreciating! Ask Jon P, he's a 'cross-driver' (in love with his E-Type). WFO Herb Keep the sticky side down! Grants Pass, Oregon From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Sat Aug 11 15:02:43 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 14:02:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Confused as heck... References: <46BCC2E5.9480.2E0AEF1@dmg.bossig.com>, <00e301c7dbcb$100733e0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <46BCD1E8.16786.31B5067@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <002601c7dc5b$0aa0e640$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Don't argue with success!! Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G." To: "Paul Asgeirsson" ; Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Confused as heck... > Paul, > > The carb body is at an angle but the float chamber is also at a smaller > angle! > Frank suggested that maybe the PO put the grommets on the wrong carbs > as the are 'handed'. > Looking from the front of the car they are turned about 10 degrees > clockwise. > So I am assuming that they are 30 degree grommets and that I need a pair > of 20 degree grommets. That would bring them back counter-clockwise by > 10 degrees and should put them vertical. > In the meantime I have them well balanced and 'singing' nicely. I might just > leave well enough alone?? > > On 10 Aug 2007 at 20:52, Paul Asgeirsson wrote: > > >> Then the floats should be vertical. > >> > >> It's possible that someone rebuilt them with the wrong rubber piece that > >> goes between the carb body and the float bowl. They come in several > >> angles. > > - > Dave G > '65 MKIII Sprite From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Aug 11 15:36:12 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 14:36:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] RWA midget on Craig's list $500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <519101.76570.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Hal Faulkner wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/2z9ymz I've seen worse entered in car shows. Someone needs to buy that. Ron Soave "Take it, Dee Dee" - http://youtube.com/watch?v=9BYOulnVXAE ____________________________________________________________________________________ Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ From dmeadow at juno.com Sat Aug 11 20:25:37 2007 From: dmeadow at juno.com (dmeadow at juno.com) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:25:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Throwout bearings Message-ID: <20070811.212537.2388.0.dmeadow@juno.com> Recently I've had some trouble with these. It seems that some of the new ones are not as thick as they need to be. When you install them they don't release the clutch sufficiently and it will grind going into the gears. I recently replaced one to fix the problem, then installed a new one in another car and have a similar problem. Anyone else had this problem? Or have a solution? David From MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com Sat Aug 11 22:19:12 2007 From: MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com (MICHAEL CARPENTER) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 00:19:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI for US veterans... References: <43840a7e0708111041p7358789cy1ef9f04f5f66e52d@mail.gmail.com> <2ad6c6b10708111055r5bbdf9abj123931fde49501b8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001f01c7dc97$f0416b20$2eaef904@D1PWFG61> I have a question as all of this puzzles me. I have not been in the military. I am trying to get this straight in my head. In the past have you not been allowed to salute the flag? If so that sounds a bit ridiculous. I must be missing something. Please enlighten me. Mike C ----- Original Message ----- From: "WFO Herb" To: "Jim Johnson" Cc: "Spridget List" ; "Yahoo Spridget list" ; Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FYI for US veterans... > THANK YOU JIM! > > It's about time. I've always felt I (vets and active) should be allowed > to > salute. Now we can. > > Herb > _______________________________________________ From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Aug 11 23:02:54 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 22:02:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI for US veterans... Message-ID: <380-2200780125254125@earthlink.net> Mike C wrote: I have a question as all of this puzzles me. I have not been in the military. I am trying to get this straight in my head. In the past have you not been allowed to salute the flag? If so that sounds a bit ridiculous. I must be missing something. Not ridiculous at all, Mike. Few people are aware that there is a Flag Code of the United States (Title 4, United States Code, Chapter 1), and fewer still are aware of its contents. The proper way for the military to honor the flag is render a hand salute of the right hand. The manner prescribed for all civilians is with the right hand placed over the heart. If a man is wearing a hat, it is with the hat placed over the heart. Non-citizens are to simply stand at attention. Veterans are no longer in the military, and therefore civilians obligated to honor the flag in the civilian manner. Ironically, police, firemen, and other occupations are civilians, but have disregarded the Code's provisions and have co-opted the hand salute. As a Navy veteran, I have always found it difficult to place my hand over my heart. I get goose bumps and have to restrain my right hand that intuitively wants to give a hand salute instead. Buster Evans Watch for the 23 Great Spridget Miracle Workers in the October "Practical Classics" From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Sat Aug 11 23:42:33 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 00:42:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI for US veterans... References: <380-2200780125254125@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <00dd01c7dca3$94d51140$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> Code be ....d, Buster. I still (and ALWAYS will) SALUTE. And since a Cub Scout!! From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Aug 11 23:50:55 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 22:50:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI for US veterans... Message-ID: <380-22007801255055562@earthlink.net> 63AHBJ7 wrote: Code be ....d, Buster. I still (and ALWAYS will) SALUTE. And since a Cub Scout!! Aw, that's OK, the courts said you didn't need to obey that law. Those flag burners that wore the flag as a headband back in the '60s and early '70s got the court to say it was their (and your) free speech right to ignore the that section of the U.S. Code. Buster Evans Watch for the 23 Great Spridget Miracle Workers in the October "Practical Classics" From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Aug 12 08:21:12 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 14:21:12 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Throwout bearings Message-ID: No advice can I offer considering I've used upgraded "rollers" (as sold by MiniMania) for the last umpteen years with absolutely no clutch problems such as I had once in a while with the stock item. Today's stock item is probably a cheapo Chinese/Indian mfg. affair, anyway? The "roller" costs a bit more.... Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Aug 12 10:05:29 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 09:05:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Good list buffer recommendation Message-ID: <374519.56640.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks to Frank et. al. for the recommendation for a buffer. The Makita showed up Friday, and it's excellent for the light duty I've given it so far. I got this one, for $90 less on ebay: http://detailking.com/content/view/80/188/ Now, which 4 post lift is best? Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Sun Aug 12 13:50:41 2007 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 14:50:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] roller tappet conversion kit (was Re: ZDDP) Message-ID: <8de85a9c0708121250g41715ccdh3465ae9432d1be7d@mail.gmail.com> On 8/9/07, David Riker wrote: > Sounds like it's time for someone to engineer a roller tappet conversion kit > for the A-series engine...... Like this? http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com/roller.jpg http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com/midgetsprite.html#Anchor-ENGINE-35882 Has anyone here tried this setup and have comments to share? From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Sun Aug 12 13:51:52 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 12:51:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Throwout bearings References: <20070811.212537.2388.0.dmeadow@juno.com> Message-ID: <004901c7dd1a$3bcb0ec0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> The throw out bearings come in different offsets. The 948 one is almost flat and won't work with the 1098 or 1275 engines and their respective clutch covers. For those engines a 1275 one will work OK. There is or was one for a 1098, but isn't as common for availability. Just be aware that you need to use the right one for the engine. Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 7:25 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Throwout bearings > Recently I've had some trouble with these. It seems that some of the new > ones are not as thick as they need to be. When you install them they > don't release the clutch sufficiently and it will grind going into the > gears. > > I recently replaced one to fix the problem, then installed a new one in > another car and have a similar problem. > > Anyone else had this problem? Or have a solution? > > David > _______________________________________________ > pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Sun Aug 12 14:01:25 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 13:01:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] roller tappet conversion kit (was Re: ZDDP) References: <8de85a9c0708121250g41715ccdh3465ae9432d1be7d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <008901c7dd1b$90fe7840$f675fea9@p0k7l8> That's a roller rocker arm. Tappet is the one that the camshaft rubs against and moves the push rod up to move the rocker arm. Sometimes referred to as a cam follower. Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jethro" To: "David Riker" Cc: "Paul Asgeirsson" ; "63AHBJ7" <63ahbj7 at gmail.com>; "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 12:50 PM Subject: roller tappet conversion kit (was Re: [Spridgets] ZDDP) > On 8/9/07, David Riker wrote: > > Sounds like it's time for someone to engineer a roller tappet conversion kit > > for the A-series engine...... > > Like this? > http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com/roller.jpg > http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com/midgetsprite.html#Anchor-ENGINE-35882 > > Has anyone here tried this setup and have comments to share? From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Sun Aug 12 14:09:35 2007 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 15:09:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] roller tappet conversion kit (was Re: ZDDP) In-Reply-To: <008901c7dd1b$90fe7840$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <8de85a9c0708121250g41715ccdh3465ae9432d1be7d@mail.gmail.com> <008901c7dd1b$90fe7840$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0708121309g1663a70q6a9659dc4540c6bc@mail.gmail.com> Ah, OK, ... thanks Paul What can I say ... I'm more of a computer geek that's just playing with an MG for some relaxation. crawling back into newbie lurk mode On 8/12/07, Paul Asgeirsson wrote: > That's a roller rocker arm. > > Tappet is the one that the camshaft rubs against and moves the push rod up > to move the rocker arm. Sometimes referred to as a cam follower. > > Paul A From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Aug 12 18:05:40 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 19:05:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] alloy radiator pics Message-ID: <002601c7dd3d$b0b58c60$1220a520$@com> Anyone have any pics handy of their Speedwell style alloy radiator install? Also, oil cooler install? Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com Sun Aug 12 18:53:51 2007 From: MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com (MICHAEL CARPENTER) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 20:53:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI for US veterans... References: <380-2200780125254125@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <002e01c7dd44$6acc3170$41f6f904@D1PWFG61> Thanks Buster. That is interesting. I wanted to go into the Marines as a teen and then I am not quite sure what happened. I guess someone talked me in to college instead. I have total respect for those that serve and I thank you all for doing so. I didn't realize their was such a code. Mike C ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Bruce Evans" To: ; ; Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 1:02 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FYI for US veterans... > Mike C wrote: I have a question as all of this puzzles me. I have not > been in the military. I am trying to get this straight in my head. In the > past have you not been allowed to salute the flag? If so that sounds a bit > ridiculous. I must be missing something. > Not ridiculous at all, Mike. Few people are aware that there is a Flag > Code of the United States (Title 4, United States Code, Chapter 1), and > fewer still are aware of its contents. > The proper way for the military to honor the flag is render a hand salute > of the right hand. The manner prescribed for all civilians is with the > right hand placed over the heart. If a man is wearing a hat, it is with > the hat placed over the heart. Non-citizens are to simply stand at > attention. Veterans are no longer in the military, and therefore > civilians obligated to honor the flag in the civilian manner. Ironically, > police, firemen, and other occupations are civilians, but have disregarded > the Code's provisions and have co-opted the hand salute. > As a Navy veteran, I have always found it difficult to place my hand over > my heart. I get goose bumps and have to restrain my right hand that > intuitively wants to give a hand salute instead. > Buster Evans > Watch for the 23 Great Spridget Miracle Workers in the October "Practical > Classics" From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Sun Aug 12 19:54:48 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 18:54:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Silly me! Message-ID: <001e01c7dd4d$077b7460$f675fea9@p0k7l8> OK guys, when you quit laughing, tell me the answer. I was working on a customers 74 Midget, getting ready to take it for test run. No Bonnet on the car. I get all loaded up, Wallet, glasses, cell phone. See something by the dizzy I wnt to check, bend over to look and my cell phone falls out of my shirt pocket!! Tumbles nicely into the area between the fender and the wheel well!! Like you guys have never dropped anything there, but how did you retrieve it? Borrow a 4 year old and dangle him down there? I could use some suggestions! Can't get my arm down there. Way too big! It's a prepaid plan on the phone and still has almost 500 minutes left. Don't want to toss them. Fill me in on ideas. TIA, Paul A From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Aug 12 20:02:18 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 22:02:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Silly me! In-Reply-To: <001e01c7dd4d$077b7460$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <001e01c7dd4d$077b7460$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <46BFBBAA.9030008@comcast.net> Paul Asgeirsson wrote: > OK guys, when you quit laughing, tell me the answer. > Like you guys have never dropped anything there, but how did you retrieve it? If it's steel, use a magnet but with the cell phone, it looks like it's pull the fender time. God I love my Bugeye ;) You might be able to remove the interior panel and reach it from the rust hole on the inner wall. Sure they all rust out in there. Stick of wood with some really sticky tape on the end (and a prayer) Go find a 4 year old? A guy with long skinny arm? Hey, you have pretty long arms, chop off your hand and just stick your arm down there. Put a bugeye nose on the car? Seriously, you have to remove the interior panel to pull the fender but a nice cut hole, suitable for a speaker in the future, or fold it back and tack weld it, is about the only way to get to it if some sticky stuff on a stick doesn't do it. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Aug 12 20:08:14 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 20:08:14 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Silly me! In-Reply-To: <001e01c7dd4d$077b7460$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <001e01c7dd4d$077b7460$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <5f00d9910708121908l1eb252dbj552ade685a0a6148@mail.gmail.com> Invert the car? Call the phone and get a good laugh? From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Aug 12 20:13:20 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 22:13:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tach Drive Message-ID: <46BFBE40.7050001@comcast.net> This one is real, note the Smiths box in the background. http://tinyurl.com/ysl8gs -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From dmg at bossig.com Sun Aug 12 20:26:49 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 19:26:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Silly me! In-Reply-To: <001e01c7dd4d$077b7460$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <001e01c7dd4d$077b7460$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <46BF5EF9.24741.29BDD15@dmg.bossig.com> Can you see it using one of those inspection mirrors with joints (from Horrible Frieght)?? If so, a large wad of Blue Tack wrapped on the end of the inspection mirror might get it. I've also used one of those 'things" that has a flexible outer case and a button you push at one end that operates three little 'grab it' wires on the other... (What a lousy description - but I don't know what they're called!) - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From pythias at pacifier.com Sun Aug 12 20:32:47 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 19:32:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Silly me! In-Reply-To: <001e01c7dd4d$077b7460$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <001e01c7dd4d$077b7460$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <1361927029.20070812193247@pacifier.com> Hello Paul, if you can wait until i get there tuesday, i can reach down in there for ya! -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite * "I've gone back to my wife," was Tom's rejoinder. From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sun Aug 12 20:33:18 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 19:33:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Tach Drive In-Reply-To: <46BFBE40.7050001@comcast.net> References: <46BFBE40.7050001@comcast.net> Message-ID: <9dc8a1a89ea18a74a19d04a.20070812193318.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> O.K. So I'm still being beat up for recommending a repro box. I should have known I have 2 in the box just like this auction. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Frank, your Dad has not answered his email. Frank Clarici > This one is real, note the Smiths box in the background. > > http://tinyurl.com/ysl8gs > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Aug 12 20:44:43 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 19:44:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Tach Drive In-Reply-To: <9dc8a1a89ea18a74a19d04a.20070812193318.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <630276.99444.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I was hoping to bid until a few days ago until everyone started advertising the damn thing! --- rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: > O.K. So I'm still being beat up for recommending a > repro box. I should > have known I have 2 in the box just like this > auction. > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > Frank, your Dad has not answered his email. > > > Frank Clarici > > This one is real, note the Smiths box in the > background. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Sun Aug 12 20:49:21 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 19:49:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Was Silly me, Now I GOT IT!! Message-ID: <007101c7dd54$b326bc00$f675fea9@p0k7l8> After reading a whole bunch of good suggestions, this is what I did! I used a piece of that galvanized strapping used in home construction, wrapped a big wad of DUM Dum, (Appropriate name!) also known now as strip caulk and got it down there and could feel the phone. was able to slide it forward and even lift it a bit, but it kept falling off. So slid it way forward, laid on the engine and was able to get my left hand down there and pull it up between my fingers all the while my phone was happily screaming as it came up! Hooray you guys, you're the greatest!! Thanks so much!! Paul A From pdx.pete at verizon.net Sun Aug 12 21:03:26 2007 From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (pdxpete) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 20:03:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Silly me! References: <001e01c7dd4d$077b7460$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <000e01c7dd56$852021f0$9c096f47@DBKF4T81> Got two words for you ... plasma cutter. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Asgeirsson" To: ; Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 6:54 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Silly me! > OK guys, when you quit laughing, tell me the answer. From pdx.pete at verizon.net Sun Aug 12 21:05:45 2007 From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (pdxpete) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 20:05:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Was Silly me, Now I GOT IT!! References: <007101c7dd54$b326bc00$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <003501c7dd56$d80cec40$9c096f47@DBKF4T81> So, I take it you're not going to use the plasma cutter????? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Asgeirsson" To: ; Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 7:49 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Was Silly me, Now I GOT IT!! > After reading a whole bunch of good suggestions, this is what I did! From millerls at ado13.com Sun Aug 12 23:10:34 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 22:10:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] alloy radiator pics References: <002601c7dd3d$b0b58c60$1220a520$@com> Message-ID: <057d01c7dd68$47a28900$d280bc43@HP> You can find both here http://www.ado13.com/dohczuke/dohc.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: "'Spridget List'" ; "'Team Thicko'" Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 5:05 PM Subject: [Spridgets] alloy radiator pics > Anyone have any pics handy of their Speedwell style alloy radiator > install? > Also, oil cooler install? > > > > > > > > > > Wm. Severin Thompson > > ~iii > > > wsthompson at thicko.com > > www.thicko.com > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of > image001.png] > _______________________________________________ From froggi60 at gmail.com Mon Aug 13 01:01:54 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 00:01:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI for US veterans... In-Reply-To: <380-2200780125254125@earthlink.net> References: <380-2200780125254125@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10708130001v55bfafb5ice93e6dc647f28d@mail.gmail.com> Thanks, Buster. Saved me a lot of typing. Question: You said "...Watch for the 23 Great Spridget Miracle Workers in the October "Practical Classics" Can't say I've seen PC...it is a magazine, right? Herb From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Aug 13 07:27:40 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:27:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP References: Message-ID: <004d01c7ddad$ba81fbf0$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" To: "Deikis, John G" ; "Paul Asgeirsson" ; "63AHBJ7" <63ahbj7 at gmail.com>; "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ZDDP > Castrol GTX with bottle of STP? STP still contains ZDDP, but they don't tell you how much. It used to be the main ingredient, but now it's listed last instead of first. Presumably, STP 4cyl. in the red bottle would be better than the regular blue bottle because it's main function isn't to raise viscosity. It's too bad we can't just buy ZDDP. I'll bet one quart would last a long time. BZ ============================== I emailed STP from their website regarding the two oil additives and their relative amount of ZDDP. Here is their response: Dear Mr. Daniels, Thank you for contacting us about STP Oil Treatment. We always appreciate hearing from our consumers. The STP 4 Cylinder Oil Treatment contains only slightly more than the STP Oil Treatment. They both contain about 4 times the amount of ZDDP as what motor oils once contained. The product was originally designed for flat tappet cam motors. We have many classic car owners that use our product for this reason. Again, thank you for contacting us. Sincerely, Patti Copper Consumer Response Representative Consumer Services ---------------------------- Given this, I think we could safely use a bottle (or 2 -- they are a tad less than a pint) of either additive in every oil change and have a resultant mix containing about the same amount of ZDDP as in the good old days. I was a little concerned about the info Paul A received about racing oils not being formulated for normal mileage between changes. This should take care of any concerns and enable us to use whatever quality off-the-shelf oil we want, no? Larry Daniels From mconn2 at bright.net Mon Aug 13 08:17:45 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:17:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] AN5 Message-ID: <001901c7ddb4$b8a23b40$7334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Listers, Does anybody know the correct length of the gear shift lever from the bottom of the shift knob to the point where it appears in an AN5, please? (From what I recall of those I saw in my earlier days, the one in my current AN5 seems to be too long.) Look forward to hearing from someone. From JNBrashear at garverengineers.com Mon Aug 13 08:40:47 2007 From: JNBrashear at garverengineers.com (Brashear, Jack, N) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 09:40:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Mini Intake In-Reply-To: <3ED3E77656D84D4CB674F42C229F99CA@HomeComputer> Message-ID: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603488A38@glitas07.garverinc.local> Hi Dean, PLEASE DON'T READ IF YOU'RE A CONCOURS GUY. I don't know about the Bugeye, but there definitely is such interference on square body Spridgets. Case in point - my Mk2 Sprite. I bought a Howleys (Mini) inlet from Avonbar Racing on a trip to England back in the 90's. The upward tilt caused the HIF6 carb top to be too high for hood closure by a little over one inch. Here's what I did: I relieved the hood by heating the area with a propane torch and shaped it using vinyl body mallets. I was a little reluctant at first to bang up my hood but the result came out great....sorta like the bump on a TR4 hood, just not as big. Sanding and painting took care of the cosmetics. It really looks cool and I get lots of positive comments about it. By the way, the single HIF6 is the best conversion I ever did to the car beyond the 5-speed....you'll love it. Contact me off list and I'll send you a photo as I think the list strips photo attachments. Jack -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+jnbrashear=garverengineers.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+jnbrashear=garverengineers.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dean Swanson Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 8:38 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Mini Intake There has been talk before that a single carb mini intake will not work on a Spridget because the hood will hit the top of the carb dash pot. Is this the case for both a bugeye and square body? Dean '62 A.H. Sprite mkII Holly Springs, NC From lists at woozy.com Mon Aug 13 09:20:56 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 11:20:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Speedometer cable? Message-ID: <46C076D8.6000201@woozy.com> I finished up my transmission transplant on Saturday and everything is working great except for the speedo. I reconnected the cable to the transmission after the transmission was in the car so I can't see how it is mating with the speedo drive but it feels like it is correct. When I detached the cable from the back of the speedometer it is not turning while I'm driving. Is there any trick for getting this right or is it just a try, try again type of thing? The speedo drive worked on the transmission before I removed it from the other car so I'm thinking it's how I attached the cable that has to be the problem. Other than that the replacement transmission is working perfectly. Thanks, Robert From JNBrashear at garverengineers.com Mon Aug 13 10:06:48 2007 From: JNBrashear at garverengineers.com (Brashear, Jack, N) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 11:06:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Funny LBC for sale Message-ID: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603488ABE@glitas07.garverinc.local> Well, once again I'm trying to sell my 1973 Austin Marina 1.8L automatic. This is a superb car inside and out. Take the bus to Little Rock and drive her home. Photos, history and price on request. Jack From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Aug 13 10:20:06 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 09:20:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun speedo attachment Message-ID: <001a01c7ddc5$cff90dd0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Robert, If the cable isn't inserted carefully, the nylon speedo gear in the datsun tranny will strip easily leaving a dead spot in the gear teeth. Check the assembly by turning the transmission over with the cable attached and check for motion at the speedo end. If turing the trans doesn't turn the cable, remove the cable and test. With the cable removed, rolling the back or forward will allow you to reach through the shifter hole and put your fingertip on the speedo gear end and feel it turn. If it turns, all is good, reconnect properly and test again. If it doesn't turn beneath your fingertip as the car is pushed backward in gear, replace the speedo gear. To do it without pulling the trans, jack the back of the car up as high as you can to move all the trans oil to the front, lay a rag under the speedo gear of the trans, have the new one in your hand as you pull the little bolt and worry the old one out. Quickly push the new one in with twisting motion and bolt into place. To tighten the conversion adaptor for the Datsun box to the speedo gear, I made a special wrench from a flat piece of steel plate about 2"x6" with a sntch cut into one end big enough to span the flats of the adaptor nut. E-mail me and I'll send you a photo of the wrench. Sort of sounds like someone had this exact same problem very recently doesn't it?? Don't ask. Glen Byrns From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Aug 13 10:30:40 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 09:30:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugsy back on road Message-ID: <002701c7ddc7$49c55cd0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> The turbo motor is dialed in and running great. I took Bugsy for a 120 mile twisty ride yesterday in the local mountains and it ran great. I needed to have a solid outing before deciding on taking Bugsy on vacation in the Sierra next week as I try to do each year. Suspension is nice and tight, the new steering tube felts have relaxed a bit and now feel perfect. The newly repaired speedo drive tells me I got 24mpg. Not great, but I was gassing it pretty good in the hills rather than driving like a Prius owner. Still going easy on the boost, but it would be nice to keep a set of pistons long enough to pay off the credit card charge that paid for them. The new stereo is loud enough to be heard to 70mph, the I-pod hookup works fine. I dragged out the sewing machine last night and modified the tonneau cover to fit around the roll bar. Things are going so good, I'm starting to look critically at the paint and imagining hundreds of critical lister eyes detecting every flaw as I pull up in Missouri. Glen Byrns From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon Aug 13 10:34:07 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 09:34:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 23 Spridget Miracle Workers Message-ID: <380-22007811316347640@earthlink.net> Herb wrote: "Question: You said "...Watch for the 23 Great Spridget Miracle Workers in the October "Practical Classics" Can't say I've seen PC...it is a magazine, right?" Yep, it is a great magazine devoted specifically to the maintenance, repair, and restoration of those classic English cars that have become an important part of our lives. It is published in England where the restoration of these cars is a national passion, and every 178-page issue is chock-a-block full of good stuff. It is available her in the U.S. at major magazine retailers such as Barnes and Noble, Borders, and other large sales points. It is also available by subscription, and there are many on the list who get it every month. To take a look at the magazine, check either http://tinyurl.com/342esj . Subscriptions are available through their U.S. mailing agent: http://www.ewa1.com/mghpc.html. The "23 Great Spridget Miracle Workers" will be an October feature article saluting the 23 guys who last year came to our house from all over the country for that "mystical, magical" three days to restore the Sprite I have had since its birth 47 years ago, and the American love for the Spridgets. Buster Evans From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Aug 13 11:01:25 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 13:01:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugsy back on road In-Reply-To: <002701c7ddc7$49c55cd0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <002701c7ddc7$49c55cd0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <46C08E65.2070407@comcast.net> Glen Byrns wrote: > I'm starting to look critically at the paint and > imagining hundreds of critical lister eyes detecting every flaw as I pull up > in Missouri. Glen This is NOT the big Healey list. We don't care what it looks like, we just care that it drives and you drove it there. My blue Sprite is showing some rust bubbles, do I re-repaint the car before Missouri? Maybe, if I don't have any other project car to work on over the winter. But if I don't get to it, oh well, it is what it is. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Aug 13 11:12:53 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:12:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugsy back on road References: <002701c7ddc7$49c55cd0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <46C08E65.2070407@comcast.net> Message-ID: <000801c7ddcd$30050ce0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> I have a backup plan in case I don't touch up the paint this winter. By taking nothing but secondary routes through farmland, I should be able to accumulate enough bug-guts on the car between here and Missouri that I'll have to TELL you what color it is. Glen From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Mon Aug 13 11:55:09 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:55:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 23 Spridget Miracle Workers In-Reply-To: <380-22007811316347640@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <604474.21876.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Is Practical Classic sold in any of the Stores in the good old USA? Robert Bruce Evans wrote: Herb wrote: "Question: You said "...Watch for the 23 Great Spridget Miracle Workers in the October "Practical Classics" Can't say I've seen PC...it is a magazine, right?" Yep, it is a great magazine devoted specifically to the maintenance, repair, and restoration of those classic English cars that have become an important part of our lives. It is published in England where the restoration of these cars is a national passion, and every 178-page issue is chock-a-block full of good stuff. It is available her in the U.S. at major magazine retailers such as Barnes and Noble, Borders, and other large sales points. It is also available by subscription, and there are many on the list who get it every month. To take a look at the magazine, check either http://tinyurl.com/342esj . Subscriptions are available through their U.S. mailing agent: http://www.ewa1.com/mghpc.html. The "23 Great Spridget Miracle Workers" will be an October feature article saluting the 23 guys who last year came to our house from all over the country for that "mystical, magical" three days to restore the Sprite I have had since its birth 47 years ago, and the American love for the Spridgets. Buster Evans _______________________________________________ uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon Aug 13 13:07:15 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:07:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 23 Spridget Miracle Workers Message-ID: <380-2200781131971593@earthlink.net> Vigil wrote: Is Practical Classic sold in any of the Stores in the good old USA? Yep. "Barnes and Noble, Borders, and other large sales points..." From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Aug 13 14:28:50 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 15:28:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Silly me! In-Reply-To: <001e01c7dd4d$077b7460$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <001e01c7dd4d$077b7460$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <43840a7e0708131328i178d68eeva5d8e49fe0932486@mail.gmail.com> Gawd! I can tell youse guys didn't grow up in no city scrounging nickels and dimes outta the sewer gratings!! Get yerself a big wad of Double Bubble and a stick! If you get lucky on the first stab at it, the gum will still be usable! ;-) Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City On 8/12/07, Paul Asgeirsson wrote: > OK guys, when you quit laughing, tell me the answer. > > I was working on a customers 74 Midget, getting ready to take it for test run. > No Bonnet on the car. I get all loaded up, Wallet, glasses, cell phone. See > something by the dizzy I wnt to check, bend over to look and my cell phone > falls out of my shirt pocket!! Tumbles nicely into the area between the > fender and the wheel well!! > > Like you guys have never dropped anything there, but how did you retrieve it? > Borrow a 4 year old and dangle him down there? I could use some suggestions! > Can't get my arm down there. Way too big! It's a prepaid plan on the phone > and still has almost 500 minutes left. Don't want to toss them. > > Fill me in on ideas. > > TIA, Paul A > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Aug 13 14:31:45 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 16:31:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Latest oshit meeting Message-ID: <46C0BFB1.2060402@comcast.net> Here is a link to some pics of the latest... E astern A rea T eam of S pridget H andymen I n T ransit http://www.valentinephoto.net/oshit/page3/page28/page28.html With thanks to Rob Valentine for the pictures. The oshit session was for lister Bob Campion who's 61 Sprite wasn't quite right til we got our hands on it. Also Linda's Pinky needed a bit of work and a non lister Paul Santini pretty much rebuild his 1500 Midget with the help of Chris King. Although Paul's brakes locked up 1/2 way home, we did manage to get him all the way home before Midnight. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Aug 13 14:33:23 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 15:33:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugsy back on road In-Reply-To: <000801c7ddcd$30050ce0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <002701c7ddc7$49c55cd0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <46C08E65.2070407@comcast.net> <000801c7ddcd$30050ce0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <43840a7e0708131333o6b3bb060w69bded680289d2c4@mail.gmail.com> Don't concern yourself, Glen. Mine won't be painted by then. It'll still have the original orange puke color with all the chips, divits, rust, fading and what look like some little gobs of concrete here and there. Everyone will be too busy laughing at my Midget to worry about your BE!! Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City On 8/13/07, Glen Byrns wrote: > I have a backup plan in case I don't touch up the paint this winter. By > taking nothing but secondary routes through farmland, I should be able to > accumulate enough bug-guts on the car between here and Missouri that I'll > have to TELL you what color it is. > > Glen > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Aug 13 14:34:36 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 15:34:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Silly me! References: <001e01c7dd4d$077b7460$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <43840a7e0708131328i178d68eeva5d8e49fe0932486@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <12bd01c7dde9$5db1f290$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Gawd! I can tell youse guys didn't grow up in no city scrounging > nickels and dimes outta the sewer gratings!! Get yerself a big wad > of Double Bubble and a stick! If you get lucky on the first stab at > it, the gum will still be usable! Gee, we thought ourselves fortunate if we found pennies! Haven't you heard the story about the scotsman who threw his wallet down the privy? From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Aug 13 14:39:28 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 15:39:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Silly me! In-Reply-To: <12bd01c7dde9$5db1f290$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <001e01c7dd4d$077b7460$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <43840a7e0708131328i178d68eeva5d8e49fe0932486@mail.gmail.com> <12bd01c7dde9$5db1f290$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <43840a7e0708131339y3c74ddeekd16f12f9389d0e3a@mail.gmail.com> City kid to country kid standing on city street corner, "Yo! Youse got change for a ten?" Country kid, "Why, yes! I believe I do!" City kid, "Good. Gimme it." David... Obviously you didn't know to look in the gratings outside the bars! Cheers!! Jim On 8/13/07, David Lieb wrote: > > Gawd! I can tell youse guys didn't grow up in no city scrounging > > nickels and dimes outta the sewer gratings!! Get yerself a big wad > > of Double Bubble and a stick! If you get lucky on the first stab at > > it, the gum will still be usable! > > Gee, we thought ourselves fortunate if we found pennies! Haven't you heard > the story about the scotsman who threw his wallet down the privy? > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From John.Deikis at va.gov Mon Aug 13 15:39:09 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 17:39:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP In-Reply-To: <004d01c7ddad$ba81fbf0$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <004d01c7ddad$ba81fbf0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: Cagey devils! Still won't tell us the ppm! -----Original Message----- From: Larry Daniels [mailto:ladaniels at sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 9:28 AM To: Billy Zoom; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ZDDP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" To: "Deikis, John G" ; "Paul Asgeirsson" ; "63AHBJ7" <63ahbj7 at gmail.com>; "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ZDDP > Castrol GTX with bottle of STP? STP still contains ZDDP, but they don't tell you how much. It used to be the main ingredient, but now it's listed last instead of first. Presumably, STP 4cyl. in the red bottle would be better than the regular blue bottle because it's main function isn't to raise viscosity. It's too bad we can't just buy ZDDP. I'll bet one quart would last a long time. BZ ============================== I emailed STP from their website regarding the two oil additives and their relative amount of ZDDP. Here is their response: Dear Mr. Daniels, Thank you for contacting us about STP Oil Treatment. We always appreciate hearing from our consumers. The STP 4 Cylinder Oil Treatment contains only slightly more than the STP Oil Treatment. They both contain about 4 times the amount of ZDDP as what motor oils once contained. The product was originally designed for flat tappet cam motors. We have many classic car owners that use our product for this reason. Again, thank you for contacting us. Sincerely, Patti Copper Consumer Response Representative Consumer Services ---------------------------- Given this, I think we could safely use a bottle (or 2 -- they are a tad less than a pint) of either additive in every oil change and have a resultant mix containing about the same amount of ZDDP as in the good old days. I was a little concerned about the info Paul A received about racing oils not being formulated for normal mileage between changes. This should take care of any concerns and enable us to use whatever quality off-the-shelf oil we want, no? Larry Daniels From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Mon Aug 13 16:10:04 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 17:10:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP References: <004d01c7ddad$ba81fbf0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <009001c7ddf6$b38994e0$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> As I sit here with GM's pint of E.O.S., it too says nada!! From pelliott at innercite.com Mon Aug 13 17:15:27 2007 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Patrick Elliott) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 16:15:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 62' MkII - fitting Bugeye style Bumperettes Message-ID: <005a01c7ddff$d64d7d30$82e87790$@com> Long time absence from this list, I destroyed my rear bumper, its a long story. Looking at changing the style of the car, so my question is, Can I fit bugeye bumperettes to a 62 mkii without doing any body modifications? (mine or the car?) Thanks. _____ Patrick Elliott 541 297 0004 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.17/951 - Release Date: 8/13/2007 10:15 AM From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Aug 13 17:18:59 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 19:18:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 62' MkII - fitting Bugeye style Bumperettes In-Reply-To: <005a01c7ddff$d64d7d30$82e87790$@com> References: <005a01c7ddff$d64d7d30$82e87790$@com> Message-ID: <46C0E6E3.2000902@comcast.net> Patrick Elliott wrote: > Long time absence from this list, > > > > I destroyed my rear bumper, its a long story. Looking at changing the > style of the car, so my question is, Can I fit bugeye bumperettes to a 62 > mkii without doing any body modifications? (mine or the car?) Direct bolt on replacement. But you will need the Bugeye bumper irons. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From r_l_campion at hotmail.com Mon Aug 13 19:04:57 2007 From: r_l_campion at hotmail.com (Bob & Linda) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:04:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] My Oshit Message-ID: Obviously, I have a different perspective than anyone else's since they all got together to help me and the others out. So a bit of digression if I may. Last year my wife Linda and I were a part of the Valentine Pa rally in our regular car because our 61 Sprite needed a lot of work. We had a ball, and met many nice people, some of whom were at this weekends OSHIT. While there, Kev suggested that they might be able to do an OSHIT on my car someday. Over the past year my back problems have gotten progressively worse, and I have been unable to do much physical work at all, so after changing out all the brakes/wheel cylinders and other things last summer with the help of a very close friend who has a lot more mechanical knowledge than I, we decided to ask Kev what he could do. He made me a part of the OSHIT group and the race was on from there. I ordered what they though they would need, Kev rallied all the help for last weekend, and then we were on. Frank and Diane were great host and hostess to me, shared their spare bedroom, and treated me to dinner Friday night at there yacht club. You couldn't ask for two nicer people. After dinner Frank wanted to take a look at the car, so he tried to start it. I thought it was a fuel problem, but he immediately thought electric, and of course hit the nail on the head. That car was purring like a kitten in just a few minutes, so he fired off and e-mail to Kev that we needed brainwork, not extra parts. Sat morning everyone started to arrive and worked fast and furious on not only my car, but on two others also. Frank and Kev went 90 mph for 10-12 hours, you would have thought they were teenagers! The others all chipped in in one way or another with cleaning parts, holding the light or parts, sandblasting, polishing, reading the manuals and wiring diagrams, to posing for his own pictures so that he could make a really good show of the whole thing. We were so late that I was asked to stay another night, so Sunday morning I finally bid farewell to this great couple (Diane that was super home-made bread) and headed for upstate NY (Syracuse area, not Westchester County) and made it in 2 hours less than the trip down. (The moral here is don't go to Frank's on a summer Friday if you want to get there on time). Buster, I never met you, but you and I have had some sort of "out of body" experience with this wonderful group, and like you, I will never forget it. A big THANK YOU to everyone! Bob Campion Vernon, NY From lists at woozy.com Mon Aug 13 19:08:09 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:08:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Latest oshit meeting In-Reply-To: <46C0BFB1.2060402@comcast.net> References: <46C0BFB1.2060402@comcast.net> Message-ID: <46C10079.5080804@woozy.com> Frank Clarici wrote: Hey Frank, Looks like a good time! Is that a Cosworth Vega in one of those pictures? My little brother had one of those back in High School. Robert > Here is a link to some pics of the latest... > E astern > A rea > T eam of > S pridget > H andymen > I n > T ransit > > http://www.valentinephoto.net/oshit/page3/page28/page28.html > > With thanks to Rob Valentine for the pictures. > The oshit session was for lister Bob Campion who's 61 Sprite wasn't > quite right til we got our hands on it. > Also Linda's Pinky needed a bit of work and a non lister Paul Santini > pretty much rebuild his 1500 Midget with the help of Chris King. > Although Paul's brakes locked up 1/2 way home, we did manage to get him > all the way home before Midnight. From herby at herbytoys.com Mon Aug 13 19:10:19 2007 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 18:10:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 62' MkII - fitting Bugeye style Bumperettes In-Reply-To: <005a01c7ddff$d64d7d30$82e87790$@com> Message-ID: <000301c7de0f$e33c3d00$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> Sure can Patrick. See my car http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/albums/Herbytoy_Pics/62_RRquarter.jpg Franks right, you need the BE irons (brackets) but bolts right up. Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com Subject: [Spridgets] 62' MkII - fitting Bugeye style Bumperettes Long time absence from this list, I destroyed my rear bumper, its a long story. Looking at changing the style of the car, so my question is, Can I fit bugeye bumperettes to a 62 mkii without doing any body modifications? (mine or the car?) Thanks. _____ Patrick Elliott From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Mon Aug 13 19:32:31 2007 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 18:32:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Latest oshit meeting Message-ID: <1842601c7de12$fb8fc770$0d6a010a@mail2world.com> Yes it is, it's my new toy! :) It's #1103, with the optional pimpin' white interior. :) -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Robert Weeks [lists at woozy.com] Sent: 8/13/2007 9:08:09 PM To: spritenut at comcast.net Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Latest oshit meeting Frank Clarici wrote: Hey Frank, Looks like a good time! Is that a Cosworth Vega in one of those pictures? My little brother had one of those back in High School. Robert > Here is a link to some pics of the latest... > E astern > A rea > T eam of > S pridget > H andymen > I n > T ransit > > http://www.valentinephoto.net/oshit/page3/page28/page28.html > > With thanks to Rob Valentine for the pictures. > The oshit session was for lister Bob Campion who's 61 Sprite wasn't > quite right til we got our hands on it. > Also Linda's Pinky needed a bit of work and a non lister Paul Santini > pretty much rebuild his 1500 Midget with the help of Chris King. > Although Paul's brakes locked up 1/2 way home, we did manage to get him > all the way home before Midnight. _______________________________________________ From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Mon Aug 13 19:37:53 2007 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 18:37:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugsy back on road Message-ID: Hell, mine still has the hammered out divots in the wings from the roll-over nearly two years ago. Hopefully I'll get to them, but if I don't it's going as is. -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Jim Johnson [bmwwxman at gmail.com] Sent: 8/13/2007 4:33:23 PM To: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugsy back on road Don't concern yourself, Glen. Mine won't be painted by then. It'll still have the original orange puke color with all the chips, divits, rust, fading and what look like some little gobs of concrete here and there. Everyone will be too busy laughing at my Midget to worry about your BE!! Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City On 8/13/07, Glen Byrns wrote: > I have a backup plan in case I don't touch up the paint this winter. By > taking nothing but secondary routes through farmland, I should be able to > accumulate enough bug-guts on the car between here and Missouri that I'll > have to TELL you what color it is. > > Glen From robert at valentinephoto.net Mon Aug 13 19:58:46 2007 From: robert at valentinephoto.net (Robert A. Valentine) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:58:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Latest oshit meeting In-Reply-To: <1842601c7de12$fb8fc770$0d6a010a@mail2world.com> References: <1842601c7de12$fb8fc770$0d6a010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: <4C3A33D3-3C00-40B2-A952-15A0362A8C4C@valentinephoto.net> Now all you need is the big purple hat with the BIG feather on it. ;-) - Rob Valentine 74 Yellow Bugeye'd Midget On Aug 13, 2007, at 9:32 PM, Chris King wrote: > Yes it is, it's my new toy! :) It's #1103, with the optional pimpin' > white interior. :) > > -=Chris From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Mon Aug 13 20:10:46 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:10:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Latest oshit meeting References: <1842601c7de12$fb8fc770$0d6a010a@mail2world.com> <4C3A33D3-3C00-40B2-A952-15A0362A8C4C@valentinephoto.net> Message-ID: <016701c7de18$54678400$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> To match YOUR car, Rob?!?!?!? From cfchrist at earthlink.net Mon Aug 13 20:16:32 2007 From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 22:16:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Latest oshit meeting Message-ID: <6835791.1187057792184.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> ROB! YOU CAN PICK UP ONE ON THE NEXT TRIP TO DISNEY! (I SAW THEM THERE BACK IN MARCH....) (darn caps lock thingy! sorry....) chuck. -----Original Message----- >From: "Robert A. Valentine" >Sent: Aug 13, 2007 9:58 PM >To: Chris King >Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Latest oshit meeting > >Now all you need is the big purple hat with the BIG feather on it. ;-) > >- >Rob Valentine >74 Yellow Bugeye'd Midget > > > >On Aug 13, 2007, at 9:32 PM, Chris King wrote: > >> Yes it is, it's my new toy! :) It's #1103, with the optional pimpin' >> white interior. :) >> >> -=Chris From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Mon Aug 13 20:27:57 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:27:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Latest oshit meeting References: <6835791.1187057792184.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <007b01c7de1a$bab92400$6501a8c0@actualshop> <<(darn caps lock thingy! sorry....)>> You just SCARED the bejeeehes out of EVERYBODY, chuck!!!! stop that!!!! From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Aug 13 21:05:00 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 22:05:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Latest oshit meeting References: <6835791.1187057792184.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <007b01c7de1a$bab92400$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <002901c7de1f$e7e47510$0201a8c0@midget> > <<(darn caps lock thingy! sorry....)>> > > You just SCARED the bejeeehes out of EVERYBODY, chuck!!!! > stop that!!!! Yeah, we all thought ED had another pseudonym ;-) From philip.s.jones at comcast.net Mon Aug 13 22:13:05 2007 From: philip.s.jones at comcast.net (Philip Jones) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:13:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Latest oshit meeting Message-ID: <000d01c7de29$6cf7e800$0a00a8c0@Holly> You guys have done it again! Making me proud to be a spridgeteer . . . . Good job. From millerls at ado13.com Mon Aug 13 23:16:07 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 22:16:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] My Oshit References: Message-ID: <064501c7de32$38fcc850$d280bc43@HP> > and treated me to dinner Friday night at there yacht club. You couldn't > ask Yacht Club? Frank must be holding out on us. From jlaird237 at cox.net Tue Aug 14 05:51:24 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 06:51:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] My Oshit References: <064501c7de32$38fcc850$d280bc43@HP> Message-ID: <000901c7de69$709a9620$6401a8c0@personal> Pics, we want Pics of Larrys Yacht. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry & Sandi Miller" To: "Bob & Linda" ; "Spridget List" Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 12:16 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] My Oshit >> and treated me to dinner Friday night at there yacht club. You couldn't >> ask > > Yacht Club? Frank must be holding out on us. > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.17/951 - Release Date: 8/13/2007 > 10:15 AM From John.Deikis at va.gov Tue Aug 14 06:40:12 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 08:40:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] My Oshit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Frank belongs to a YACHT CLUB???? This is a great country! -----Original Message----- From: Bob & Linda [mailto:r_l_campion at hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 9:05 PM To: Spridget List Subject: [Spridgets] My Oshit Obviously, I have a different perspective than anyone else's since they all got together to help me and the others out. So a bit of digression if I may. Last year my wife Linda and I were a part of the Valentine Pa rally in our regular car because our 61 Sprite needed a lot of work. We had a ball, and met many nice people, some of whom were at this weekends OSHIT. While there, Kev suggested that they might be able to do an OSHIT on my car someday. Over the past year my back problems have gotten progressively worse, and I have been unable to do much physical work at all, so after changing out all the brakes/wheel cylinders and other things last summer with the help of a very close friend who has a lot more mechanical knowledge than I, we decided to ask Kev what he could do. He made me a part of the OSHIT group and the race was on from there. I ordered what they though they would need, Kev rallied all the help for last weekend, and then we were on. Frank and Diane were great host and hostess to me, shared their spare bedroom, and treated me to dinner Friday night at there yacht club. You couldn't ask for two nicer people. After dinner Frank wanted to take a look at the car, so he tried to start it. I thought it was a fuel problem, but he immediately thought electric, and of course hit the nail on the head. That car was purring like a kitten in just a few minutes, so he fired off and e-mail to Kev that we needed brainwork, not extra parts. Sat morning everyone started to arrive and worked fast and furious on not only my car, but on two others also. Frank and Kev went 90 mph for 10-12 hours, you would have thought they were teenagers! The others all chipped in in one way or another with cleaning parts, holding the light or parts, sandblasting, polishing, reading the manuals and wiring diagrams, to posing for his own pictures so that he could make a really good show of the whole thing. We were so late that I was asked to stay another night, so Sunday morning I finally bid farewell to this great couple (Diane that was super home-made bread) and headed for upstate NY (Syracuse area, not Westchester County) and made it in 2 hours less than the trip down. (The moral here is don't go to Frank's on a summer Friday if you want to get there on time). Buster, I never met you, but you and I have had some sort of "out of body" experience with this wonderful group, and like you, I will never forget it. A big THANK YOU to everyone! Bob Campion Vernon, NY From peter at nosimport.com Tue Aug 14 07:35:55 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 08:35:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Latest oshit meeting In-Reply-To: <1842601c7de12$fb8fc770$0d6a010a@mail2world.com> References: <1842601c7de12$fb8fc770$0d6a010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070814083416.038f9e90@nosimport.com> At 08:32 PM 8/13/2007, Chris King wrote: >Yes it is, it's my new toy! :) It's #1103, with the optional pimpin' >white interior. :) > >-=Chris ================= Have I got something you need.......... Ready? How about a nice pair (or 2) of SPAX adjustable rear shocks? Eh?? nudge nudge. PPP From JMFarley50 at aol.com Tue Aug 14 09:28:47 2007 From: JMFarley50 at aol.com (JMFarley50 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:28:47 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] TR-3 / TR-4 Cylinder Head Message-ID: My friend is rebuilding a TR-3 engine and found cracks in the cylinder head when having a valve job performed. Before trying to salvage the head he has, he thought he would first try to find a good, non-cracked one . Does anyone know of anybody that has a good TR-3 or TR-4 cylinder head he could buy? Thanks, John ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour From pvanwig at charter.net Tue Aug 14 11:28:41 2007 From: pvanwig at charter.net (Paul Van Wig) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:28:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Silly me! In-Reply-To: <001e01c7dd4d$077b7460$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <001e01c7dd4d$077b7460$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <013e01c7de98$8efdee30$6400a8c0@PaulsLaptop> I found two wenches driver's side of my first Midget when changing a damaged fender! Paul Van Wig pvanwig at charter.net -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+pvanwig=charter.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+pvanwig=charter.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Asgeirsson Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 6:55 PM To: Spridgets at autox.team.net; midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Spridgets] Silly me! OK guys, when you quit laughing, tell me the answer. I was working on a customers 74 Midget, getting ready to take it for test run. No Bonnet on the car. I get all loaded up, Wallet, glasses, cell phone. See something by the dizzy I wnt to check, bend over to look and my cell phone falls out of my shirt pocket!! Tumbles nicely into the area between the fender and the wheel well!! Like you guys have never dropped anything there, but how did you retrieve it? Borrow a 4 year old and dangle him down there? I could use some suggestions! Can't get my arm down there. Way too big! It's a prepaid plan on the phone and still has almost 500 minutes left. Don't want to toss them. Fill me in on ideas. TIA, Paul A From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Tue Aug 14 11:48:56 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:48:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Silly me! References: <001e01c7dd4d$077b7460$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <013e01c7de98$8efdee30$6400a8c0@PaulsLaptop> Message-ID: <007f01c7de9b$63c1f060$f675fea9@p0k7l8> HEY! that might be one of mine! What size is it? LOL, Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Van Wig" To: "'Paul Asgeirsson'" ; ; Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 10:28 AM Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Silly me! > I found two wenches driver's side of my first Midget when changing a damaged > fender! > > Paul Van Wig > pvanwig at charter.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+pvanwig=charter.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+pvanwig=charter.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > Paul Asgeirsson > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 6:55 PM > To: Spridgets at autox.team.net; midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Spridgets] Silly me! > > OK guys, when you quit laughing, tell me the answer. > > I was working on a customers 74 Midget, getting ready to take it for test > run. > No Bonnet on the car. I get all loaded up, Wallet, glasses, cell phone. > See > something by the dizzy I wnt to check, bend over to look and my cell phone > falls out of my shirt pocket!! Tumbles nicely into the area between the > fender and the wheel well!! > > Like you guys have never dropped anything there, but how did you retrieve > it? > Borrow a 4 year old and dangle him down there? I could use some > suggestions! > Can't get my arm down there. Way too big! It's a prepaid plan on the phone > and still has almost 500 minutes left. Don't want to toss them. > > Fill me in on ideas. > > TIA, Paul A From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Aug 14 12:36:07 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:36:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Silly me! References: <001e01c7dd4d$077b7460$f675fea9@p0k7l8><013e01c7de98$8efdee30$6400a8c0@PaulsLaptop> <007f01c7de9b$63c1f060$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <12e201c7dea1$fab475a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >> I found two wenches driver's side of my first Midget when changing a >> damaged fender! Being this List, I suppose the mandatory responses include: One was a size 10 and the other a size 6... I woulda thought it would work better with the wenches on the passenger side... More contributions??? From wmgilroy at gmail.com Tue Aug 14 12:52:24 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:52:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] My Oshit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <441250190708141152m45de3228o90c6fb28d1ebdad8@mail.gmail.com> Next thing you know they will let the Irish join! On 8/14/07, Deikis, John G wrote: > > Frank belongs to a YACHT CLUB???? > This is a great country! From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Aug 14 12:53:57 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:53:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Silly me! In-Reply-To: <12e201c7dea1$fab475a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: > One was a size 10 and the other a size 6... Are those French wrenches?? Surely one of them was 7/16". From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Aug 14 12:55:36 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:55:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Silly me! References: Message-ID: <12e801c7dea4$b3a1d9c0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >> One was a size 10 and the other a size 6... > Are those French wrenches?? Surely one of them was 7/16". No. Look again. He did not say that he found "wrenches". From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Aug 14 12:59:04 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:59:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Silly me! In-Reply-To: <12e801c7dea4$b3a1d9c0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: > No. Look again. He did not say that he found "wrenches In that case, I'll take the plump one. From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Tue Aug 14 13:16:13 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 12:16:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Silly me! References: Message-ID: <00db01c7dea7$95919800$f675fea9@p0k7l8> LOL!! Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" To: "David Lieb" ; "Spridget List" Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Silly me! > > No. Look again. He did not say that he found "wrenches > In that case, I'll take the plump one. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Aug 14 13:19:52 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:19:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Silly me! In-Reply-To: <007f01c7de9b$63c1f060$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <001e01c7dd4d$077b7460$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <013e01c7de98$8efdee30$6400a8c0@PaulsLaptop> <007f01c7de9b$63c1f060$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: For me, I open the bonnet, then, facing forward, I put my hand into the fender opening, (what side I am on determines what hand) gently pushing it downward, while I twist slowly to get my stomach against the wheel well. I have not done it in some time, but sitting at my desk, I recall this is how I insert my arm into the treasure pit. I DO wear a leather glove, and long sleeve shirt, in case there are any brown recluse, or black widow spiders habitating inside. They are both quite prevelant here in Texas. Things found in this manner Wrenches Screwdrivers A 3/8 ratchet A fuse box cover for the early 2 fuse box but the BEST find ever, was an almost perfect fat washer bottle (you know, the kind they don't make for the Bugeye anymore) and bracket. The bottle wasn't even yellowed. I found this in the fender of the Drag Sprite, when we first got it. Bra On 8/14/07, Paul Asgeirsson wrote: > HEY! that might be one of mine! What size is it? > > LOL, Paul A > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Van Wig" > To: "'Paul Asgeirsson'" ; > ; > Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 10:28 AM > Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Silly me! > > > > I found two wenches driver's side of my first Midget when changing a > damaged > > fender! > > > > Paul Van Wig > > pvanwig at charter.net > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: spridgets-bounces+pvanwig=charter.net at autox.team.net > > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+pvanwig=charter.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > > Paul Asgeirsson > > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 6:55 PM > > To: Spridgets at autox.team.net; midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [Spridgets] Silly me! > > > > OK guys, when you quit laughing, tell me the answer. > > > > I was working on a customers 74 Midget, getting ready to take it for test > > run. > > No Bonnet on the car. I get all loaded up, Wallet, glasses, cell phone. > > See > > something by the dizzy I wnt to check, bend over to look and my cell phone > > falls out of my shirt pocket!! Tumbles nicely into the area between the > > fender and the wheel well!! > > > > Like you guys have never dropped anything there, but how did you retrieve > > it? > > Borrow a 4 year old and dangle him down there? I could use some > > suggestions! > > Can't get my arm down there. Way too big! It's a prepaid plan on the > phone > > and still has almost 500 minutes left. Don't want to toss them. > > > > Fill me in on ideas. > > > > TIA, Paul A > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Aug 14 13:49:51 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:49:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Silly me! In-Reply-To: <12e801c7dea4$b3a1d9c0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <12e801c7dea4$b3a1d9c0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <43840a7e0708141249l5d3ab99cq1f503eb63735eda0@mail.gmail.com> I don't have my glasses at the moment... Who are these Fresh Wenches everyone is talking about? Cheers!! Jim On 8/14/07, David Lieb wrote: > >> One was a size 10 and the other a size 6... > > > Are those French wrenches?? Surely one of them was 7/16". > > No. Look again. He did not say that he found "wrenches". From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Aug 14 13:52:13 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:52:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] My Oshit In-Reply-To: <441250190708141152m45de3228o90c6fb28d1ebdad8@mail.gmail.com> References: <441250190708141152m45de3228o90c6fb28d1ebdad8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0708141252s30883fa7y7a4f20bd55d8dfd@mail.gmail.com> Maybe it was a miss spelling? Maybe it as a Yak club? Cheers!! Jim On 8/14/07, Bill Gilroy wrote: > Next thing you know they will let the Irish join! > > On 8/14/07, Deikis, John G wrote: > > > > Frank belongs to a YACHT CLUB???? > > This is a great country! > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Tue Aug 14 14:27:11 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:27:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] another "found in fenderwell" story Message-ID: <000f01c7deb1$7ec054e0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Some of you know that my bugeye was owned by a neighbor when I was a teenager. After teaching me about cars as he fixed it up, we parted ways not to meet again for 30 years. I looked him up back in 1999 and bought the Sprite from him that I had watched rebuilt all those years ago. That first day with the Sprite tucked safely in MY garage, I began a close examination and clean out of the interior prior to the first total strip of the car. Headfirst, on my belly, I reached my hand into the rear fender wells and started extracting all kinds of crap. Kids toys from the PO's child rearing years, an old feeler gauge, a few nuts and bolts, old gas receipts, and a very nasty looking black leather glove. Time for the "Wayne's World" flashback sound effect......wave fingers through the air........ 1970, Riverside Raceway. My neighbor/friend/bugeye owner and I stand in the infield watching the Riverside 500. The drive to Riverside from Gardena with the top down in his newly restored bugeye was cold and I wore my leather gloves. Thrown in the back when we arrived, I didn't need them on the way home. Later, while searching, I could only find one of them and gave up the search. My neighbor said not to worry, if he found it he'd give it back because it would be way too big for his smaller hands. Flash forward sound effect (with finger waving gestures) Now thirty years later as I recall this dim teenage memory, I pry the fingers apart and slowly push my hand into the glove like OJ. Nasty, ragged, stiff and stained, it fit perfectly. No, Rod Serling was not standing in my driveway with his hands clasped in front of him. Glen Byrns From dmg at bossig.com Tue Aug 14 15:12:52 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:12:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wiring Harness... Message-ID: <46C1B864.19152.1A0C9FF@dmg.bossig.com> The wiring on my beast is totally screwed-up! I'm considering re-wiring it from the ground (no pun intended) up. It is still a positive ground system. Has anyone used the "Painless Wiring" 8 Circuit Modular T-Bucket Harness, Part No. 10308 to re-wire a Spridget?? Specifically a '65-67 Mk III... If so, was it a good or bad expeience?? Do you think it was an easier to install than the purpose-built Vic-Brit/Moss harnesses?? Suggestions welcome TIA - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From hal at katemuir.com Tue Aug 14 17:24:57 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:24:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wiring Harness... In-Reply-To: <46C1B864.19152.1A0C9FF@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: Dave, I used some kind of Painless Wiring fuse block in FROG AYE. I think it's about 12 circuits. WAY overkill. But now I got separate circuits for everything and a relay for the horn, and,.... Oh, yeah, a home made wiring harness that I'll finish someday. Too much work. Don't think I'd do it again.... Hal -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Dave G. Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 2:13 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Wiring Harness... The wiring on my beast is totally screwed-up! I'm considering re-wiring it from the ground (no pun intended) up. It is still a positive ground system. Has anyone used the "Painless Wiring" 8 Circuit Modular T-Bucket Harness, Part No. 10308 to re-wire a Spridget?? Specifically a '65-67 Mk III... If so, was it a good or bad expeience?? Do you think it was an easier to install than the purpose-built Vic-Brit/Moss harnesses?? Suggestions welcome TIA From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Aug 14 17:22:29 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:22:29 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Wiring Harness... In-Reply-To: References: <46C1B864.19152.1A0C9FF@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910708141622tfc10fbah50d144ce8e82247@mail.gmail.com> I have a modern fuse block that is a kind of drop in upgrade for Spridgets if anyone is interested. I think I paid $6 for them. They take ATO fuses and have 1/4 tabs on the bottom. IIRC, the bolt holes even line up with those of the late Midgets. From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Aug 14 17:29:09 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:29:09 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Wiring harness fuse block Message-ID: <5f00d9910708141629o7512b44dj70adaf79e03df101@mail.gmail.com> Here's a pic of mine: I used standoffs and some pre-wiring. http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/dovco/MGStuff/fuseblock.jpg From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Aug 14 19:27:50 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 20:27:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Pressure Plate torque values Message-ID: I went through the Haynes, but can't seem to find the torque settings for the pressure plate. Anyone know off the top of their head? Brad -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From racerbob70 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 14 20:23:09 2007 From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 19:23:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Pressure Plate torque values In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <93209.45317.qm@web51609.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Brad, An old book that I have says 25 to 30# plus tighten it down in a crisscross pattern... --- Brad Fornal wrote: > I went through the Haynes, but can't seem to find > the torque settings > for the pressure plate. Anyone know off the top of > their head? > > Brad > > -- > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Tue Aug 14 20:27:49 2007 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 21:27:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] bonnet latch cup Message-ID: <8de85a9c0708141927r7e751d24x60d2e18b8aef203e@mail.gmail.com> My bonnet has been popping loose when driving around - thankfully the safety catch is in working order! I noticed one of the hinges was a bit loose and corrected that, but continue to have the problem. Tonight while browsing the Terry Horler book I noticed in one of the pictures there's a cup above the latch. Then I browsed the pictures of various cars I've seen on the Internet and see that all of them have one too. I'm guessing this serves in part to keep the bonnet stable by snugging around the spring on the bonnet lock pin. Is that correct? Looking at my car again I can now faintly see an outline in the paint where my car once had one of these cups but it was removed by the DPO for whatever reason. By any chance do any of you have one laying around on a parts car you'd care to part with? From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Aug 14 20:23:58 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 19:23:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Car recall Message-ID: <380-22007831522358734@earthlink.net> And another 483,000 cars and trucks have been subjected to a recall!!! http://tinyurl.com/25h78f It should not affect the stock price of car and truck manufacturer Mattel who shifted all of its production to China. Other of its subsidiary operations have also been affected. From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Tue Aug 14 20:41:46 2007 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 21:41:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Car recall In-Reply-To: <380-22007831522358734@earthlink.net> References: <380-22007831522358734@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0708141941r3d48124fyfbe7441ad935b0b6@mail.gmail.com> My son had one of those Sarge cars ... it didn't fair too well in his crash tests either! From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Tue Aug 14 21:12:51 2007 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:12:51 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] bonnet latch cup In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0708141927r7e751d24x60d2e18b8aef203e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <268824.98622.qm@web50603.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hey Jethro, my sprite still has the cup...and my bonnet pops too.. certainly provides an adrenalin surge when it happens at 70mph.. (can you guess what the following represents? "OoOoOoOoOo") I cant bear to drill holes for pins in an otherwise straight hood, so I am looking for period style leather straps to do the job. Andy Australia Jethro wrote: My bonnet has been popping loose when driving around - thankfully the safety catch is in working order! --------------------------------- Get the World's number 1 free email service. Find out more. From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Aug 14 22:24:28 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 00:24:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Latest oshit meeting In-Reply-To: <46C0BFB1.2060402@comcast.net> References: <46C0BFB1.2060402@comcast.net> Message-ID: <205cef430708142124r2253f22ay19b40e1cfbd63cc8@mail.gmail.com> Frank, You absolutely kill me with your humor: E astern A rea T eam of S pridget H andymen I n T ransit What a great OSHIT day too, you and the team are the best people in the whole world. My little pink Sprite is glued to the road now that you fixed her with that new shock. I was a little embarrassed to turn on my headlights on the way home because I have to whack the passengers side headlight to get her to work but I got home just as the sun was going down & whacked it in the driveway. I am also glad all the other LBC's are roadworthy once again too! Thanks for a great OSHIT day. Linda 62 California Sprite "Pinky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner On 8/13/07, Frank Clarici wrote: > > Here is a link to some pics of the latest... > E astern > A rea > T eam of > S pridget > H andymen > I n > T ransit > > http://www.valentinephoto.net/oshit/page3/page28/page28.html > > With thanks to Rob Valentine for the pictures. > The oshit session was for lister Bob Campion who's 61 Sprite wasn't > quite right til we got our hands on it. > Also Linda's Pinky needed a bit of work and a non lister Paul Santini > pretty much rebuild his 1500 Midget with the help of Chris King. > Although Paul's brakes locked up 1/2 way home, we did manage to get him > all the way home before Midnight. > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > grunthaner at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Aug 14 22:40:23 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 00:40:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Car recall In-Reply-To: <380-22007831522358734@earthlink.net> References: <380-22007831522358734@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <46C283B7.40404@comcast.net> Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > And another 483,000 cars and trucks have been subjected to a recall!!! > > http://tinyurl.com/25h78f And the head of the chinese toy industry hung himself yesterday, just a few months too late if you ask me. 1 down, a couple billion to go :) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Aug 14 22:38:12 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 21:38:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Car recall Message-ID: <380-22007831543812562@earthlink.net> Frank wrote: And the head of the chinese toy industry hung himself yesterday, just a few months too late if you ask me. 1 down, a couple billion to go :) No problem. He used Chinese-made rope. He survived. From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Aug 14 22:59:56 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 00:59:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuse box breaker question Message-ID: <205cef430708142159m6289748cu9054815c9b07d557@mail.gmail.com> List, I recently bought a 30 gal. air compressor 110 and only used it one time without trouble, the other day I turned it on (in my garage) and blew the breaker 2 times. I only had the overhead lights on at the time 1 incandescent 100 watt bulbe, and 3 double bulb 40 Watt florescent lights I'll try it in the daylight without the lights on next. Can I put in a larger breaker or do I need an electrician? If the breaker blows (turns off) do I need to rewire the garage line? Thanks Lin From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Aug 15 00:04:41 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 23:04:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy sheeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittttttttttttttttttt!!!!! Message-ID: <380-2200783156441890@earthlink.net> Actually, I think this guy's attitude is typical of all the drivers I have seen in Paris. Still, at 140 mph, it is a little quick. So put on your astronaut diapers, belt up, and hang on.... (Be patient for it takes him 8 min 39 sec to make the drive.) http://tinyurl.com/jtmsw or http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7503638729249272041 "On an August morning in 1978, French filmmaker Claude Lelouch mounted a gyro-stabilized camera to the bumper of a Ferrari 275 GTB and had ... all ; a friend, a professional Formula 1 racer, drive at breakneck speed through the heart of Paris. The film was limited for technical reasons to 10 minutes; the course was from Porte Dauphine, through the Louvre, to the Basilica of Sacre Coeur. No streets were closed, for Lelouch was unable to obtain a permit. The driver completed the course in about 9 minutes, reaching nearly 140 MPH in some stretches. The footage reveals him running real red lights, nearly hitting real pedestrians, and driving the wrong way up real one-way streets." Buster From wmgilroy at gmail.com Wed Aug 15 01:04:27 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 00:04:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Car recall In-Reply-To: <380-22007831522358734@earthlink.net> References: <380-22007831522358734@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <441250190708150004i23820bbcx97e14b9247eb3e17@mail.gmail.com> At the end of July there was an article in the New York Times and it basically stated that Mattel was doing manufacturing right in China. They owned their factories and were maintaining tight quality control. They stated that Mattel was the model to follow because Mattel understood the value of their brand. Then 3 weeks later, whoops ....... Ironic. -g On 8/14/07, Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > > And another 483,000 cars and trucks have been subjected to a recall!!! > > http://tinyurl.com/25h78f > > It should not affect the stock price of car and truck manufacturer Mattel > who shifted all of its production to China. Other of its subsidiary > operations have also been affected. > _______________________________________________ > wmgilroy at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Vote for Team Death Trap at http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx each day and vote for until Aug. 8th and forward this onto anyone who can help spread the word. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Aug 15 04:04:15 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:04:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Pressure Plate torque values In-Reply-To: <93209.45317.qm@web51609.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <93209.45317.qm@web51609.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thank you, I'll do that this morning before work!! On 8/14/07, Bob Van Kirk wrote: > Brad, > An old book that I have says 25 to 30# plus tighten > it down in a crisscross pattern... > > > --- Brad Fornal wrote: > > > I went through the Haynes, but can't seem to find > > the torque settings > > for the pressure plate. Anyone know off the top of > > their head? > > > > Brad > > > > -- > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > > _______________________________________________ -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Aug 15 07:07:45 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 07:07:45 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuse box breaker question In-Reply-To: <205cef430708142159m6289748cu9054815c9b07d557@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430708142159m6289748cu9054815c9b07d557@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910708150607r78694aefya90cc6cf1808148b@mail.gmail.com> Hi, There should be a rating on the compressor motor regarding amperage. Compressor motors have a high inrush current meaning they take a lot of amps at startup. A single 100w incandescent draws about 1 amp. Three fluorescents probably draw less than 1 amp each, so figure less than 5 amps on the circuit already. Standard outlets are rated for 15 amps and most circuits have 15 amp breakers. You could just put in a larger breaker but you should upgrade the outlet if you do. Ideally you would want the compressor on a dedicated breaker, probably 20 amps. Cheers, Derf On 8/14/07, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List, > I recently bought a 30 gal. air compressor 110 and only used it one time > without trouble, the other day I turned it on (in my garage) and blew the > breaker 2 times. I only had the overhead lights on at the time 1 > incandescent 100 watt bulbe, and 3 double bulb 40 Watt florescent lights > I'll try it in the daylight without the lights on next. Can I put in a > larger breaker or do I need an electrician? If the breaker blows (turns > off) do I need to rewire the garage line? > Thanks Lin > _______________________________________________ > derf247 at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From svandeweghe at hopennmachinery.com Wed Aug 15 07:13:00 2007 From: svandeweghe at hopennmachinery.com (Scott Van De Weghe) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:13:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Solo-bleed screws for Spridget Message-ID: Has anybody used Earl's Performance Plumbing Solo-bleed bleeder screws in their Spridget? I have to bleed the brakes (again) & think these bleeders will make it easier. http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=EAR%2D280 035ERL&N=700+115&autoview=sku '65 1098 Sprite, 5 speed ex G Prod racecar Scott W. Van De Weghe From pythias at pacifier.com Wed Aug 15 07:14:16 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 06:14:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuse box breaker question In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910708150607r78694aefya90cc6cf1808148b@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430708142159m6289748cu9054815c9b07d557@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910708150607r78694aefya90cc6cf1808148b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1715443753.20070815061416@pacifier.com> Hello derf, you should NOT simply up-rate a breaker and change the outlet from a 15 amp to a 20 amp breaker/receptacle!!! the breaker size is determined by the WIRE size, which also has to be changed... current flow = HEAT. too small wire = too much heat = FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite The sex was so good that even the neighbors had a cigarette. From tannen at babson.edu Wed Aug 15 07:21:27 2007 From: tannen at babson.edu (Tannen, Skip) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:21:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 3, Issue 39 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <32A28289A5388B4E8660426763E2E93E4BA563@EMPMAIL2.babson.edu> Yes, you will probably need to rewire - I went through the same thing with my 30 gallon Craftsman compressor. Even upgrading to a 30A breaker didn't do it because my wiring was 14 gauge - I needed to go to 12 gauge before it would run without tripping the breaker. Skip Tannen tannen at babson.edu '65 Austin Healey Sprite '71 Triumph Bonneville T120R -----Original Message----- Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 00:59:56 -0400 From: "Linda Grunthaner" Subject: [Spridgets] Fuse box breaker question To: Spridgets Message-ID: <205cef430708142159m6289748cu9054815c9b07d557 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List, I recently bought a 30 gal. air compressor 110 and only used it one time without trouble, the other day I turned it on (in my garage) and blew the breaker 2 times. I only had the overhead lights on at the time 1 incandescent 100 watt bulbe, and 3 double bulb 40 Watt florescent lights I'll try it in the daylight without the lights on next. Can I put in a larger breaker or do I need an electrician? If the breaker blows (turns off) do I need to rewire the garage line? Thanks Lin From heard at datatrontech.net Wed Aug 15 07:27:04 2007 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:27:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuse box breaker question In-Reply-To: <1715443753.20070815061416@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <20070815133031.KATJ5565.cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com@heard> I would second that opinion. The main purpose of the breaker is to trip BEFORE the wire melts and starts a fire. Without knowing the size and type of that wire, there is no way you can safely increase the breaker size. I would suggest there may be something wrong with that compressor. A standard run-of-the-mill 120V 30 gallon compressor should run from any standard 15 or 20 amp circuit. Try it on a different circuit and see if that also kicks the breaker. Heard -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+heard=datatrontech.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+heard=datatrontech.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill L Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 9:14 AM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuse box breaker question Hello derf, you should NOT simply up-rate a breaker and change the outlet from a 15 amp to a 20 amp breaker/receptacle!!! the breaker size is determined by the WIRE size, which also has to be changed... current flow = HEAT. too small wire = too much heat = FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite The sex was so good that even the neighbors had a cigarette. _______________________________________________ heard at datatrontech.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From rbc_48183 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 15 08:05:58 2007 From: rbc_48183 at yahoo.com (roger cotting) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 07:05:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Solo-bleed screws for Spridget In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <773374.85777.qm@web36411.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I've used speedbleeder(www.speedbleeder.com) They seem to work well, even in the hard to bleed clutch. Roger Scott Van De Weghe wrote: Has anybody used Earl's Performance Plumbing Solo-bleed bleeder screws in their Spridget? I have to bleed the brakes (again) & think these bleeders will make it easier. http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=EAR%2D280 035ERL&N=700+115&autoview=sku '65 1098 Sprite, 5 speed ex G Prod racecar Roger Cotting --------------------------------- Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Wed Aug 15 08:21:50 2007 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 10:21:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fuse box breaker question Message-ID: <4498405.1187187710446.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> You can uprate the breaker often times and have no ill effect. Often a much heavier guage of wire was used in the first place. Analyze the wire ga - OK throw the breaker first. "too small wire = too much heat = fire" - Is your garage wired with 22 ga. wire? ;^)). MC -----Original Message----- >From: Bill L >Sent: Aug 15, 2007 9:14 AM >To: Spridgets >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuse box breaker question > >Hello derf, > > you should NOT simply up-rate a breaker and change the outlet > from a 15 amp to a 20 amp breaker/receptacle!!! the breaker > size is determined by the WIRE size, which also has to be > changed... current flow = HEAT. too small wire = too much heat > = FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > >-- >Best regards, > Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > "66 Sprite > The sex was so good that even the neighbors had a cigarette. ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Aug 15 08:31:51 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:31:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Latest oshit meeting In-Reply-To: <205cef430708142124r2253f22ay19b40e1cfbd63cc8@mail.gmail.com> References: <46C0BFB1.2060402@comcast.net> <205cef430708142124r2253f22ay19b40e1cfbd63cc8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Ya know, if this comment had come from a MALE list member, the comments would have been merciless............ I'm just sayin' On 8/14/07, Linda Grunthaner wrote: I got home just as the sun was going down & whacked it in the driveway. From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Wed Aug 15 08:40:10 2007 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:40:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuse box breaker question In-Reply-To: <4498405.1187187710446.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <4498405.1187187710446.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0708150740u576ab34cld066fca7eb39cecf@mail.gmail.com> On 8/15/07, Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote: > You can uprate the breaker often times and have no ill effect. Often a much heavier guage of wire was used in the first place. Analyze the wire ga - OK throw the breaker first. And _often_ you'll land on an empty cylinder when playing russian roulette. > "too small wire = too much heat = fire" - Is your garage wired with 22 ga. wire? ;^)). Unless you wired it yourself you'll never know what it's wired with unless you LOOK. Why take a chance when it's so easy to just check the wire size before uprating the breaker? It's also possible Linda if the breaker is older and has been tripped numerous times before that it is getting weak and simply needs replaced with a same sized breaker. From type79 at ix.netcom.com Wed Aug 15 08:46:33 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 10:46:33 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [Spridgets] MGB Identity Crisis Message-ID: <12541672.1187189193952.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-MGB-1969-MGB-TOURER_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ31857QQihZ011QQitemZ320147610245QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW jay fishbein wallingford, ct home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Aug 15 08:47:16 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:47:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuse box breaker question References: <4498405.1187187710446.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <8de85a9c0708150740u576ab34cld066fca7eb39cecf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <131b01c7df4b$2caee870$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >> You can uprate the breaker often times and have no ill effect. Often a >> much heavier guage of wire was used in the first place. Analyze the wire >> ga - OK throw the breaker first. Derf's point was that the breaker was tripping when the motor tried to start, not under continued use. The extra amperage used at start is of short duration and does not necessarily represent a fire hazard. I agree that the ideal solution is to run a brand new dedicated 20A circuit for this device, but that is probably overkill. OTOH, if you put off all your projects until you get around to re-wiring the garage... On the third hand, since Lin has or is getting a MIG, it is probably a great time to re-wire properly. David Lieb From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Aug 15 08:49:11 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:49:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] bonnet latch cup References: <8de85a9c0708141927r7e751d24x60d2e18b8aef203e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <131e01c7df4b$71904510$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > My bonnet has been popping loose when driving around - thankfully the > safety catch is in working order! You might just need to R&R the latch mechanism. Drag on the cable preventing it from returning to place alacritously, 30 years of grunge on the latch, these things add up. Do it right. David From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Aug 15 09:24:20 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:24:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuse box breaker question In-Reply-To: <131b01c7df4b$2caee870$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: Check the compressor before you start rewiring your house. From heard at datatrontech.net Wed Aug 15 09:28:48 2007 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:28:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuse box breaker question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070815153215.KVGA17672.cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com@heard> Yes! Do this! Don't ask me how I know this lesson. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+heard=datatrontech.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+heard=datatrontech.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Billy Zoom Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 11:24 AM To: David Lieb; Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuse box breaker question Check the compressor before you start rewiring your house. _______________________________________________ heard at datatrontech.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From type79 at ix.netcom.com Wed Aug 15 10:46:53 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 12:46:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] RE: Bugeye Group..... Holy sheeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittttttttttttttttttt!!!!! Message-ID: <12076608.1187196413005.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> There's a wealth of information on this short movie including speculation who was the real driver and the other circumstances about it's filming. Fact or fiction? I don't know. jay fishbein wallingford, ct home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ -----Original Message----- >From: "Robert D. Gardner" >Sent: Aug 15, 2007 12:36 PM >To: bugeye at yahoogroups.com, Spridgets at autox.team.net, midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com >Subject: [midgetsprite] RE: Bugeye Group..... Holy sheeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittttttttttttttttttt!!!!! > >Great movie! > >I have a copy of it on video tape that I got around 25 years ago. Great to >see it again. He went just a little faster than a taxi driver I had in >Paris who took us to the exact same spot! It was the best taxi ride I have >ever had. > >Cheers, > >Bob in San Diego From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Aug 15 10:47:50 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:47:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] another "found in fenderwell" story In-Reply-To: <000f01c7deb1$7ec054e0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <000f01c7deb1$7ec054e0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: ok, so if I get this right you killed Ms. Brown and you get no aquit' as they fit?? Very neat story.. still have the other glove?? ;-)) Lester On Aug 14, 2007, at 3:27 PM, Glen Byrns wrote: > Some of you know that my bugeye was owned by a neighbor when I was > a teenager. > After teaching me about cars as he fixed it up, we parted ways not > to meet > again for 30 years. I looked him up back in 1999 and bought the > Sprite from > him that I had watched rebuilt all those years ago. > > That first day with the Sprite tucked safely in MY garage, I began > a close > examination and clean out of the interior prior to the first total > strip of > the car. Headfirst, on my belly, I reached my hand into the rear > fender wells > and started extracting all kinds of crap. Kids toys from the PO's > child > rearing years, an old feeler gauge, a few nuts and bolts, old gas > receipts, > and a very nasty looking black leather glove. > > Time for the "Wayne's World" flashback sound effect......wave > fingers through > the air........ > > 1970, Riverside Raceway. My neighbor/friend/bugeye owner and I > stand in the > infield watching the Riverside 500. The drive to Riverside from > Gardena with > the top down in his newly restored bugeye was cold and I wore my > leather > gloves. Thrown in the back when we arrived, I didn't need them on > the way > home. Later, while searching, I could only find one of them and > gave up the > search. My neighbor said not to worry, if he found it he'd give it > back > because it would be way too big for his smaller hands. > > Flash forward sound effect (with finger waving gestures) > > Now thirty years later as I recall this dim teenage memory, I pry > the fingers > apart and slowly push my hand into the glove like OJ. Nasty, > ragged, stiff > and stained, it fit perfectly. No, Rod Serling was not standing in my > driveway with his hands clasped in front of him. > > Glen Byrns > _______________________________________________ > oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Aug 15 12:43:19 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:43:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuse box breaker question In-Reply-To: <4498405.1187187710446.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <4498405.1187187710446.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910708151143h4e809539oad3c2535f3996ad1@mail.gmail.com> On 8/15/07, Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote: > You can uprate the breaker often times and have no ill effect. Often a much heavier guage of wire was used in the first place. Analyze the wire ga - OK throw the breaker first. > > "too small wire = too much heat = fire" - Is your garage wired with 22 ga. wire? ;^)). > > MC > Thank you. 22ga, lol. If you check you home you'll probably find the same wire size is used for your 15 amp and 20 amp circuits. If you house is very old, then you may have fuses instead of breakers. When you change the breaker (if you do) then you'll be able to see if something less than 14 ga is there. If so, then upgrading to a 20 amp breaker might not be a good idea. Plus, I think a 25 amp breaker would trip before a 16 ga wire got hot enough to catch fire. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Aug 15 12:55:55 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:55:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuse box breaker question In-Reply-To: <205cef430708142159m6289748cu9054815c9b07d557@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430708142159m6289748cu9054815c9b07d557@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910708151155y4915f384pc798eb76437f141c@mail.gmail.com> Hi, A Craftsman 2hp 33 gal compressor motor draws a rated 15 amps. So, running it with anything else on the 15 amp circuit may cause the breaker to trip. I would look into getting an extra 20 or 25 amp circuit installed. Cost will depend on how far the area is from the breaker panel. If that is cost prohibitive then see if you can isolate one existing circuit. Cheers, Derf On 8/14/07, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List, > I recently bought a 30 gal. air compressor 110 and only used it one time > without trouble, the other day I turned it on (in my garage) and blew the > breaker 2 times. I only had the overhead lights on at the time 1 > incandescent 100 watt bulbe, and 3 double bulb 40 Watt florescent lights > I'll try it in the daylight without the lights on next. Can I put in a > larger breaker or do I need an electrician? If the breaker blows (turns > off) do I need to rewire the garage line? > Thanks Lin > _______________________________________________ > derf247 at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Aug 15 14:06:47 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:06:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuse box breaker question In-Reply-To: <1715443753.20070815061416@pacifier.com> References: <205cef430708142159m6289748cu9054815c9b07d557@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910708150607r78694aefya90cc6cf1808148b@mail.gmail.com> <1715443753.20070815061416@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <6473624F-DA42-4AA6-873C-3E25E8C2BFF0@comcast.net> ROGER! We have an order to FIRE! Commence firing. You may fire at will. Lester .. hmm.. weird associations when the temp gets too high.. ;-) On Aug 15, 2007, at 8:14 AM, Bill L wrote: > Hello derf, > > you should NOT simply up-rate a breaker and change the outlet > from a 15 amp to a 20 amp breaker/receptacle!!! the breaker > size is determined by the WIRE size, which also has to be > changed... current flow = HEAT. too small wire = too much heat > = FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > "66 Sprite > The sex was so good that even the neighbors had a cigarette. From dmg at bossig.com Wed Aug 15 14:15:19 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:15:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuse box breaker question In-Reply-To: <6473624F-DA42-4AA6-873C-3E25E8C2BFF0@comcast.net> References: <205cef430708142159m6289748cu9054815c9b07d557@mail.gmail.com>, <1715443753.20070815061416@pacifier.com>, <6473624F-DA42-4AA6-873C-3E25E8C2BFF0@comcast.net> Message-ID: <46C2FC67.17493.9F4ADE@dmg.bossig.com> Why Will ? What did he ever do to you?? On 15 Aug 2007 at 15:06, oldsaabguy wrote: >> You may fire at will. - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Aug 15 14:18:32 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:18:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuse box breaker question In-Reply-To: <46C2FC67.17493.9F4ADE@dmg.bossig.com> References: <205cef430708142159m6289748cu9054815c9b07d557@mail.gmail.com>, <1715443753.20070815061416@pacifier.com>, <6473624F-DA42-4AA6-873C-3E25E8C2BFF0@comcast.net> <46C2FC67.17493.9F4ADE@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <02D8361E-23E4-486D-B1E0-BA7038006C48@comcast.net> GOTCHA! Will was my roommate in college and he was independently wealthy which allowed him time to play with computers and develop "The Sims".. Lester On Aug 15, 2007, at 3:15 PM, Dave G. wrote: > Why Will ? What did he ever do to you?? > > On 15 Aug 2007 at 15:06, oldsaabguy wrote: >>> You may fire at will. > > - > Dave G > '65 MKIII Sprite From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Wed Aug 15 15:14:33 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:14:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Jaguar for sale Message-ID: <000601c7df81$47182b50$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Surprise, surprise! You turn a Jag into a Ford and people stay away in droves. Who would have guessed? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20145762/ Glen From kevin at valentinephoto.net Wed Aug 15 15:16:10 2007 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:16:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuse box breaker question In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910708151143h4e809539oad3c2535f3996ad1@mail.gmail.com> References: <4498405.1187187710446.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <5f00d9910708151143h4e809539oad3c2535f3996ad1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7A316A5C-0B9F-4E78-81A7-68C268F00EA7@valentinephoto.net> On Aug 15, 2007, at 2:43 PM, derf wrote: > Plus, I think a 25 amp breaker would trip before a 16 ga wire > got hot enough to catch fire. Not true. I just had a fire in my attic (fire trucks and all) $10,000 in damage. 15 amp circuit, new wiring, a NEW Chinese window fan quit working and burst into flame where the cord went into the motor. The breaker didn't break until AFTER the fire started. DON'T guess about this.......... Be SURE!!! Kevin V. From heard at datatrontech.net Wed Aug 15 15:51:22 2007 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:51:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuse box breaker question In-Reply-To: <7A316A5C-0B9F-4E78-81A7-68C268F00EA7@valentinephoto.net> Message-ID: <20070815215449.GCDV20625.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@heard> Now THAT is scary! I'm no lawyer (don't mean to brag) but Home Depot, Lowes, Wall Mart and the rest of the purveyors of Chinese shit are just begging for some big lawsuits. As I finish building a new house here in the next month or so, I'll definitely be holding my breath for a while considering all the Chinese crap that went into it. I can't help but wonder if my Chinese fans caused a fire, would the Chinese smoke detectors work? And I'm really worried about those Chinese wheel bearings I just put on my boat trailer. Heard -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+heard=datatrontech.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+heard=datatrontech.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of K. Valentine Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 5:16 PM To: derf Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuse box breaker question On Aug 15, 2007, at 2:43 PM, derf wrote: > Plus, I think a 25 amp breaker would trip before a 16 ga wire > got hot enough to catch fire. Not true. I just had a fire in my attic (fire trucks and all) $10,000 in damage. 15 amp circuit, new wiring, a NEW Chinese window fan quit working and burst into flame where the cord went into the motor. The breaker didn't break until AFTER the fire started. DON'T guess about this.......... Be SURE!!! Kevin V. _______________________________________________ heard at datatrontech.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Wed Aug 15 16:11:26 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:11:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuse box breaker question References: <20070815215449.GCDV20625.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@heard> Message-ID: <007401c7df89$396f5660$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> Boat won't sink, Heard!!! From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Aug 15 16:12:49 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:12:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Jaguar for sale In-Reply-To: <000601c7df81$47182b50$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: > turn a Jag into a Ford and people stay away Ford certainly improved the build quality significantly. I think their problem was that they quit making cool cars and started aiming exclusively at the rich divorcee market. That happened long before Ford got involved. BZ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Aug 15 16:14:17 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:14:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuse box breaker question In-Reply-To: <20070815215449.GCDV20625.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@heard> Message-ID: > if my Chinese fans caused a > fire, would the Chinese smoke detectors work? Maybe you should have a Chinese fire drill to find out. From froggi60 at gmail.com Wed Aug 15 17:15:54 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 16:15:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Firemen's Revenge In-Reply-To: References: <26732ECA1E444F55913052702522CA14@HOMEPC> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10708151615x4cdcf7bdi56a37a40cd5d8fa2@mail.gmail.com> Washington State plates I believe! This picture will make your day. Wonder if he got a ticket too. *Firemen's Revenge* *** * *This is one of the best photos I've seen in years! I bet he won't think he is above the law next time. * [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] From kevin at valentinephoto.net Wed Aug 15 17:50:49 2007 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:50:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuse box breaker question In-Reply-To: <20070815215449.GCDV20625.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@heard> References: <20070815215449.GCDV20625.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@heard> Message-ID: <0B23C003-8E39-4BF1-96E6-67E808FEA6C5@valentinephoto.net> On Aug 15, 2007, at 5:51 PM, Heard Saxon wrote: > Now THAT is scary! > > I'm no lawyer (don't mean to brag) but Home Depot, Lowes, Wall Mart > and the > rest of the purveyors of Chinese shit are just begging for some big > lawsuits. Heard, My insurance company has filed suit against the company who manufactured the fan. Kevin V. From refisk at chartermi.net Wed Aug 15 17:57:53 2007 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:57:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuse box breaker question References: <20070815215449.GCDV20625.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@heard> <0B23C003-8E39-4BF1-96E6-67E808FEA6C5@valentinephoto.net> Message-ID: <011f01c7df98$18213140$6401a8c0@refisk> Kevin, Sorry to hear of your troubles. I'm curious - was the fan UL or CSA listed? Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "K. Valentine" To: "Heard Saxon" Cc: "'Spridgets'" Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuse box breaker question > On Aug 15, 2007, at 5:51 PM, Heard Saxon wrote: > >> Now THAT is scary! >> >> I'm no lawyer (don't mean to brag) but Home Depot, Lowes, Wall Mart >> and the >> rest of the purveyors of Chinese shit are just begging for some big >> lawsuits. > > Heard, > > My insurance company has filed suit against the company who > manufactured the fan. > > Kevin V. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Aug 15 18:04:04 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:04:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuse box breaker question References: <4498405.1187187710446.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net><5f00d9910708151143h4e809539oad3c2535f3996ad1@mail.gmail.com> <7A316A5C-0B9F-4E78-81A7-68C268F00EA7@valentinephoto.net> Message-ID: <005401c7df98$f610fd00$0201a8c0@midget> > On Aug 15, 2007, at 2:43 PM, derf wrote: >> Plus, I think a 25 amp breaker would trip before a 16 ga wire >> got hot enough to catch fire. > > > Not true. > I just had a fire in my attic (fire trucks and all) $10,000 in damage. > 15 amp circuit, new wiring, a NEW Chinese window fan quit working > and burst into flame where the cord went into the motor. The breaker > didn't break until AFTER the fire started. Fire doesn't tend to be what trips the breaker, Kevin.The house wiring was more than up to the job in hand. You can blame poor quality wiring in the chinese fan, but it does not affect the validity of Derf's statement. I doubt very much that it was your new wiring, but far more likely the windings in the motor which were far less than 16ga. Makes little difference in your loss, however. I think Frank might be onto something... is there still time to not buy chinese? David Lieb From kevin at valentinephoto.net Wed Aug 15 18:05:48 2007 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:05:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuse box breaker question In-Reply-To: <011f01c7df98$18213140$6401a8c0@refisk> References: <20070815215449.GCDV20625.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@heard> <0B23C003-8E39-4BF1-96E6-67E808FEA6C5@valentinephoto.net> <011f01c7df98$18213140$6401a8c0@refisk> Message-ID: <77679F6B-EBE7-4D8B-A3D4-C53E8FC6A83B@valentinephoto.net> Rick, I don't know. The insurance company took what was left of the fan to an independent forensics lab where it was determined the fan was at fault. Kevin On Aug 15, 2007, at 7:57 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: > Kevin, > > Sorry to hear of your troubles. I'm curious - was the fan UL or > CSA listed? > > Rick From smarc at smarc.net Wed Aug 15 19:56:59 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:56:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] seat rails Message-ID: <46C3AEEB.7050306@smarc.net> Hi all - Among the other problems my Midget had, was completely rotten and rusted seats. I got a set of seats on eBay. Good deal, but seller noted he only had 3 of the 4 seat rails. "No problem" I figured, I have a complete set of rails from the original seats. A couple months pass, finally I'm ready to install the seats. I grab my seat rails, and set the driver seat in place, only to find the bolt holes don't line up! I measure the base of the old and new seats to find the new ones are like an inch & a half wider! After the initial shock wears off, I remember about the seat rails. I grab the three rails that came with the seats, and find they are quite different. The old, narrow seat frame uses a rail that has the lip bent OUTSIDE the angle, while the new wider seat frame uses a rail that has the lip bent INSIDE the angle. Using the rails that came with the new seats, the bolt holes match up and the seat fits in nicely. But I only have a one seater now... I need ONE rail that has the lip bent into the angle iron!! You can see the rails at http://www.smarc.net/MG/midget/SeatRail/ If you have one I can beg, borrow or buy, please let me know! I'd rather not bodge the seat mount unless I just have no other choice... -- Marc From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Aug 15 20:02:04 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:02:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] (N)OSHIT meeting Message-ID: <991252.1791.qm@web30514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> We didn't fix anything, but it was a nice break from a business trip to head to Toms River for dinner with Frank and Alan Fisher. Nice to finally meet Alan and see my goomba and the Mrs. again. We had dinner at Surf Taco at the shore, beers at the Yacht Club(!!) and putzed around Frank and Frankie's garages. The 1958 Bugeye Frank did is a miracle. That is all.... Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Aug 15 20:39:15 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:39:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Do you trust Chinese goods? Message-ID: <380-22007841623915609@earthlink.net> The U.K. is also experiencing a need to recall items manufactured in China, and theirs may be of a greater scale than here. It is obviously a world-wide problem that is now out of control. The London Telegraph is asking, "Do you still trust Chinese goods." Since the question is open to everyone, even we Yanks can give our thoughts. I have, so feel free to add yours at http://tinyurl.com/27z7os . Buster http://tinyurl.com/27z7os From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Aug 15 21:01:25 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:01:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] (N)OSHIT meeting Message-ID: <380-2200784163125671@earthlink.net> Ron Soave wrote: "We had dinner at Surf Taco at the shore, beers at the Yacht Club(!!) and putzed around Frank and Frankie's garages. The 1958 Bugeye Frank did is a miracle." He didn't twist your arm into eating one of the "fish tacos", did he? Isn't the Yacht Club swanky, though. I was in awe. And the '58 Bugeye? Is that not a dream? I dare anyone to take a look at it today and then visualize and believe it was the rustbucket he brought home and the spider web it was after bead blasting. The miracle was over the top, even for Frank! It was a project that needed more "before" photos to convince folks how bad it was!!! Buster From wsthompson at thicko.com Wed Aug 15 22:03:01 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:03:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Grattan a Go GO Message-ID: <000001c7dfba$58fdaf00$0af90d00$@com> Well, after a few trials and tribulations, I'm ready for Grattan. Despite the carb fire of yesterday, everything is all cleaned up. The Elgin 75-12 cam brings back the sweet familiar 948 refrain I like to hear. Because I went to a Speedwell radiator, I couldn't use the factory shroud area to mount my oil cooler, so I bracketed it between the frame rails. But after I re-fabricated some pins to latch my Targa bonnet because I misplaced the others, I found the oil cooler interfered with the built in shroud on the bonnet. Luckily, a little automotive archeological sleuthing turned up 2 holes in the inner fender from a previous race life, and the relocation was easy. Weather is s'posed to be 70's Fri, Sat, and Sun. Should be a nice weekend. Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From pelliott at innercite.com Wed Aug 15 22:46:51 2007 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Patrick Elliott) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:46:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 distributor to block interface widget. Message-ID: <000301c7dfc0$7662cd90$632868b0$@com> Im putting together a 1275 and discover a minor yet critical missing part. The distributor to block interface widget, thingymajiggybob. This bushing like structure bolts into the block and holds in the dizzy shaft while providing a machine fit hole into which one would slide his (or hers) distributor.. Willing to pay. _____ Patrick Elliott www.SyilAmerica.com 541 297 0004 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/953 - Release Date: 8/14/2007 5:19 PM From cyrille at hp.com Thu Aug 16 08:04:55 2007 From: cyrille at hp.com (de Brebisson, Cyrille (Calculator Division)) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:04:55 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Do you trust Chinese goods? In-Reply-To: <380-22007841623915609@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <128F995FF4B7C641826217B3E6E7B226AFED100D27@G1W0487.americas.hpqcorp.net> Hello, > The U.K. is also experiencing a need to recall items manufactured in China, and theirs may be of a greater scale than here. It is obviously a world-wide problem that is now out of control. The London Telegraph is asking, "Do you still trust Chinese goods." I manufacture products in China, and the truth of the matter is, they will do anything to make an extra buck or two... (actually, most of the manufacturers are acually tawaneese, but with factory in china).... They will use recycles plastics (that end up breacking when used inapropriately), lower cost material anyplace they can (tooth paste scandal, lead paint stuff, the exploding capacitors of 4 to 5 years ago)... If you do not specify exactly what you want, they will use it to their advantage, if you do specify it, they might still cheat... I mean, we are talking about a country where you can "rent" a "model" manufacturing plant for a day to show your non-chineese customer how great your manufacturing plant is, how clean and how happy the employes are... And then go and manufacture in your sweat shop.... Ho, and they know EXACTLY the quality of what they produce, they are very good at grading "copies" by quality on the first look/touch... cyrille From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Aug 16 08:17:18 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 09:17:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Do you trust Chinese goods? References: <128F995FF4B7C641826217B3E6E7B226AFED100D27@G1W0487.americas.hpqcorp.net> Message-ID: <001601c7e010$286c4030$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Ho, and they know EXACTLY the quality of what they produce, they are very > good at grading "copies" by quality on the first look/touch... And they seem to be quite good at making Spridget parts with cheap natural rubber instead of petroleum-resistant synthetic rubber... From type79 at ix.netcom.com Thu Aug 16 08:31:47 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:31:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Do you trust Chinese goods? Message-ID: <33259789.1187274707064.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Truth be told, everyone is always looking to save a dollar, buy for the least amount of money, support the lowest bidder, and bargain retailer. How many times have people on these lists asked where to buy lbc parts at the best prices? The internet has exacerbated this problem as we now scour the web for the lowest price amongst all of the strangers that come-up on our search. We will never meet those "vendors" and have no information as to their knowledge or reputation. Buyers jump over 3 people they know pesonally to save 5% to buy from an unknown. Some even criticize other for not buying American when their Ford or Chevrolet has fewer parts sourced in the US than a Toyota. :-/ Then we moan about the demise of the small retailer, the local hardware store, and parts house or the salesperson that lacks any product knowledge. We are victims of our own greed. jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours." Hunter S. Thompson -----Original Message----- >From: "de Brebisson, Cyrille (Calculator Division)" >Sent: Aug 16, 2007 10:04 AM >To: "Spridgets at autox.team.net" >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Do you trust Chinese goods? > >Hello, > > >> The U.K. is also experiencing a need to recall items manufactured in China, >and theirs may be of a greater scale than here. It is obviously a world-wide >problem that is now out of control. The London Telegraph is asking, "Do you >still trust Chinese goods." > >I manufacture products in China, and the truth of the matter is, they will do >anything to make an extra buck or two... (actually, most of the manufacturers >are acually tawaneese, but with factory in china).... >They will use recycles plastics (that end up breacking when used >inapropriately), lower cost material anyplace they can (tooth paste scandal, >lead paint stuff, the exploding capacitors of 4 to 5 years ago)... If you do >not specify exactly what you want, they will use it to their advantage, if you >do specify it, they might still cheat... > >I mean, we are talking about a country where you can "rent" a "model" >manufacturing plant for a day to show your non-chineese customer how great >your manufacturing plant is, how clean and how happy the employes are... And >then go and manufacture in your sweat shop.... > >Ho, and they know EXACTLY the quality of what they produce, they are very good >at grading "copies" by quality on the first look/touch... From grday at btinternet.com Thu Aug 16 08:35:11 2007 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:35:11 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Do you trust Chinese goods? References: <128F995FF4B7C641826217B3E6E7B226AFED100D27@G1W0487.americas.hpqcorp.net> Message-ID: <002001c7e012$a71ac0d0$6e889156@tairswork> An excellent little treatise that only omits their national lack of and refusal to acknowledge international copyright laws. GRD ----- Original Message ----- From: "de Brebisson, Cyrille (Calculator Division)" To: Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Do you trust Chinese goods? > Hello, > > >> The U.K. is also experiencing a need to recall items manufactured in >> China, > and theirs may be of a greater scale than here. It is obviously a > world-wide > problem that is now out of control. The London Telegraph is asking, "Do > you > still trust Chinese goods." > > I manufacture products in China, and the truth of the matter is, they will > do > anything to make an extra buck or two... (actually, most of the > manufacturers > are acually tawaneese, but with factory in china).... > They will use recycles plastics (that end up breacking when used > inapropriately), lower cost material anyplace they can (tooth paste > scandal, > lead paint stuff, the exploding capacitors of 4 to 5 years ago)... If you > do > not specify exactly what you want, they will use it to their advantage, if > you > do specify it, they might still cheat... > > I mean, we are talking about a country where you can "rent" a "model" > manufacturing plant for a day to show your non-chineese customer how great > your manufacturing plant is, how clean and how happy the employes are... > And > then go and manufacture in your sweat shop.... > > Ho, and they know EXACTLY the quality of what they produce, they are very > good > at grading "copies" by quality on the first look/touch... > > cyrille > _______________________________________________ > grday at btinternet.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From cyrille at hp.com Thu Aug 16 09:00:57 2007 From: cyrille at hp.com (de Brebisson, Cyrille (Calculator Division)) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:00:57 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Do you trust Chinese goods? In-Reply-To: <002001c7e012$a71ac0d0$6e889156@tairswork> Message-ID: <128F995FF4B7C641826217B3E6E7B226AFED100D96@G1W0487.americas.hpqcorp.net> Hello, I think that it is more a cultural thing. I talked about that to one of my engineer and he explained to me the following: Here in the "west", we have always concidered that "idea" bellonged to their originators, over there, they do not have that deep cultural association of an idea whit it's creator, so to them copyright laws do not make sense, property is property of a "physical asset" and they do not understand the notion of property of a non physical asset like an idea... To them, for example, a CD should be worth around 40c because that how much it cost to make it, that is a proce of a CD regardless of what is on it... They value the physical support, not the content... Why would they recognize a law that, one: they do not understand, and two would make life a whole lot harder for them? cyrille -----Original Message----- From: Guy R Day [mailto:grday at btinternet.com] Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 8:35 AM To: de Brebisson, Cyrille (Calculator Division); Spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Do you trust Chinese goods? An excellent little treatise that only omits their national lack of and refusal to acknowledge international copyright laws. From type79 at ix.netcom.com Thu Aug 16 09:16:03 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:16:03 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [Spridgets] Do you trust Chinese goods? Message-ID: <11747934.1187277363359.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Cultural? Remember Napster? jay fishbein wallingford, ct home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ "I bet the worst part about dying is the part where your whole life passes before you." Jane Wagner -----Original Message----- >From: "de Brebisson, Cyrille (Calculator Division)" >Sent: Aug 16, 2007 11:00 AM >To: Guy R Day , "Spridgets at autox.team.net" >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Do you trust Chinese goods? > >Hello, > >I think that it is more a cultural thing. > >I talked about that to one of my engineer and he explained to me the >following: > >Here in the "west", we have always concidered that "idea" bellonged to their >originators, over there, they do not have that deep cultural association of an >idea whit it's creator, so to them copyright laws do not make sense, property >is property of a "physical asset" and they do not understand the notion of >property of a non physical asset like an idea... > >To them, for example, a CD should be worth around 40c because that how much it >cost to make it, that is a proce of a CD regardless of what is on it... They >value the physical support, not the content... From bberlin at chubb.com Thu Aug 16 09:18:06 2007 From: bberlin at chubb.com (bberlin at chubb.com) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:18:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Need Rear Main Bearing Seal In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Can't find the top half of the rear main bearing cap, the part that attaches with 3 bolts and sticks out past the rear engine plate. I need this to continue putting together a 1275 engine. I had it when I took the engine apart, searched through all my baggies -- it's gone. Question: Does anyone have a spare? Can I buy a new one? I have a 1098 engine sitting on the floor that I could remove that rear engine plate and then take of it's seal - but that's a last resort (I'm assuming the one from a 1098 engine will fit the 1275) Any thoughts? Thanks....Bruce From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Aug 16 09:21:14 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:21:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] seat rails In-Reply-To: <46C3AEEB.7050306@smarc.net> References: <46C3AEEB.7050306@smarc.net> Message-ID: That is just like the seat rails in the 68 Sprite. I also was needing one. I had some out of the early 70's cars, so I did the only thing I could think of. I took one of each to a welding shop. I had them cut the base off the 70 rail, and flip it over, and reweld it so that I had the "C" style, rather than the "Z" style. It doesn't look too bad, and only cost me $10 labor. Best part is, it works, without redrilling the car. Brad On 8/15/07, Marc wrote: > Hi all - > > Among the other problems my Midget had, was completely rotten and rusted > seats. I got a set of seats on eBay. Good deal, but seller noted he only > had 3 of the 4 seat rails. "No problem" I figured, I have a complete set > of rails from the original seats. > > A couple months pass, finally I'm ready to install the seats. I grab my > seat rails, and set the driver seat in place, only to find the bolt > holes don't line up! > > I measure the base of the old and new seats to find the new ones are > like an inch & a half wider! After the initial shock wears off, I > remember about the seat rails. I grab the three rails that came with the > seats, and find they are quite different. The old, narrow seat frame > uses a rail that has the lip bent OUTSIDE the angle, while the new wider > seat frame uses a rail that has the lip bent INSIDE the angle. > > Using the rails that came with the new seats, the bolt holes match up > and the seat fits in nicely. But I only have a one seater now... > > I need ONE rail that has the lip bent into the angle iron!! You can see > the rails at http://www.smarc.net/MG/midget/SeatRail/ > > If you have one I can beg, borrow or buy, please let me know! I'd > rather not bodge the seat mount unless I just have no other choice... From smarc at smarc.net Thu Aug 16 09:32:21 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:32:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] seat rails In-Reply-To: References: <46C3AEEB.7050306@smarc.net> Message-ID: <46C46E05.10103@smarc.net> I was considering welding some tabs or another piece of angle on the other side to make it work... Marc Brad Fornal wrote: > That is just like the seat rails in the 68 Sprite. I also was needing > one. I had some out of the early 70's cars, so I did the only thing I > could think of. I took one of each to a welding shop. I had them cut > the base off the 70 rail, and flip it over, and reweld it so that I > had the "C" style, rather than the "Z" style. It doesn't look too bad, > and only cost me $10 labor. > Best part is, it works, without redrilling the car. > > Brad From sprite58 at hotmail.com Thu Aug 16 09:47:37 2007 From: sprite58 at hotmail.com (r moses) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:47:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] On-line SPRITE Registry, GAHSR Message-ID: Global Austin-Healey Sprite Registry, GAHSR The SPRITE registry has been around since the mid 1980's. Hundreds of cars have been recorded. Many of you have registered your Sprites and some MG Midgets too. If you care to register your Sprite/s there are now 3 ways to register. The on-line method only takes a couple of minutes. You can register up to 6 Sprites at one time. Register on-line at . Go to the Global A-H Registry button. Please be assured, as always, your privacy will be maintained by various methods. Check out the PDF Mission Statement and Data Collection pages. Every attempt is being made to locate everybody that has ever previously registered in the GAHSR. If your address, email or Sprite registry information has changed kindly email me with an update. Thanks, Rick _________________________________________________________________ Learn.Laugh.Share. Reallivemoms is right place! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us From grday at btinternet.com Thu Aug 16 09:54:31 2007 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:54:31 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Do you trust Chinese goods? References: <128F995FF4B7C641826217B3E6E7B226AFED100D96@G1W0487.americas.hpqcorp.net> Message-ID: <005701c7e01d$bc1bcb40$6e889156@tairswork> Fully agree with you on that as well, but must be very annoying when you set up production in China utilising your patented or copyrighted ideas only to find that 2 weeks later a 'mirror' factory next door is producing 2nd rate copies. Probably using your labour who are doing a 2nd shift as well. Thankfully this is not my working area. Regards GRD ----- Original Message ----- From: "de Brebisson, Cyrille (Calculator Division)" To: "Guy R Day" ; Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 4:00 PM Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Do you trust Chinese goods? Hello, I think that it is more a cultural thing. I talked about that to one of my engineer and he explained to me the following: Here in the "west", we have always concidered that "idea" bellonged to their originators, over there, they do not have that deep cultural association of an idea whit it's creator, so to them copyright laws do not make sense, property is property of a "physical asset" and they do not understand the notion of property of a non physical asset like an idea... To them, for example, a CD should be worth around 40c because that how much it cost to make it, that is a proce of a CD regardless of what is on it... They value the physical support, not the content... Why would they recognize a law that, one: they do not understand, and two would make life a whole lot harder for them? cyrille -----Original Message----- From: Guy R Day [mailto:grday at btinternet.com] Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 8:35 AM To: de Brebisson, Cyrille (Calculator Division); Spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Do you trust Chinese goods? An excellent little treatise that only omits their national lack of and refusal to acknowledge international copyright laws. From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu Aug 16 10:04:06 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:04:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Grattan a Go GO In-Reply-To: <000001c7dfba$58fdaf00$0af90d00$@com> References: <000001c7dfba$58fdaf00$0af90d00$@com> Message-ID: Got the "Works Midget" on the trailer outside my office window and just waiting for this afternoon and the drive up to Grattan. Hard to think about work...well, I don't think that much about it anyway. My new set of Hoosiers should ensure slow times, long tread life, and frugal cost-per-race-weekend. Now the hillbillies at the Kokolene station see them white sidewall letters and say, "Hey, dude! That's a race car, aint' it!" See ya on the street! JohnD aka "Blunt Head Trauma" -----Original Message----- From: Wm. Severin Thompson [mailto:wsthompson at thicko.com] Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 12:03 AM To: 'Team Thicko' Cc: 'Spridget List' Subject: [Spridgets] Grattan a Go GO Well, after a few trials and tribulations, I'm ready for Grattan. Despite the carb fire of yesterday, everything is all cleaned up. The Elgin 75-12 cam brings back the sweet familiar 948 refrain I like to hear. Because I went to a Speedwell radiator, I couldn't use the factory shroud area to mount my oil cooler, so I bracketed it between the frame rails. But after I re-fabricated some pins to latch my Targa bonnet because I misplaced the others, I found the oil cooler interfered with the built in shroud on the bonnet. Luckily, a little automotive archeological sleuthing turned up 2 holes in the inner fender from a previous race life, and the relocation was easy. Weather is s'posed to be 70's Fri, Sat, and Sun. Should be a nice weekend. Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From sprite58 at hotmail.com Thu Aug 16 10:20:43 2007 From: sprite58 at hotmail.com (r moses) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:20:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Gas 4 Regalia Message-ID: Gas 4 Regalia Over the past months we have been attending various Healey events & British car shows. We register and set up a British flag and Sprite / Healey regalia table/s. We have fun and meet lots of old friends and many new Sprite enthusiasts too. We have sold a number of hundred dollars of regalia at these gatherings. There are still more meets we will attend this year and next. All this money will be equally divided and used to offset the cost of gasoline for each Registered enthusiasts attending Sprite Jubilee 08 next May. I thought dispensing the new US gold dollars would be appropriate on this golden Sprite anniversary. Rick _________________________________________________________________ Puzzles, trivia teasers, word scrambles and more. Play for your chance to win! http://club.live.com/home.aspx?icid=CLUB_hotmailtextlink From pelliott at innercite.com Thu Aug 16 14:20:59 2007 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Patrick Elliott) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:20:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 distributor to block interface widget. In-Reply-To: <46C46171.5000001@woozy.com> References: <000301c7dfc0$7662cd90$632868b0$@com> <46C46171.5000001@woozy.com> Message-ID: <006a01c7e042$f646d8d0$e2d48a70$@com> Thanks to all who've replied.. Paul A. mailed one to me this morning. Patrick Elliott www.SyilAmerica.com 541 297 0004 -----Original Message----- From: Robert Weeks [mailto:lists at woozy.com] Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 7:39 AM To: Patrick Elliott Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1275 distributor to block interface widget. Hey Patrick, I think I have a spare one of these in my shed. If you still need it I'll check tonight and send you a photo to make sure it is the correct piece. Did you need the distributor clamp also or just this piece? Robert Patrick Elliott wrote: > Im putting together a 1275 and discover a minor yet critical missing part. > The distributor to block interface widget, thingymajiggybob. This bushing > like structure bolts into the block and holds in the dizzy shaft while > providing a machine fit hole into which one would slide his (or hers) > distributor.. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/956 - Release Date: 8/16/2007 9:48 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/956 - Release Date: 8/16/2007 9:48 AM From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu Aug 16 16:00:14 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:00:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy sheeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittttttttttttttttttt!!!!! In-Reply-To: <380-2200783156441890@earthlink.net> References: <380-2200783156441890@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10708161500g75980107m7db7e68c65af4c72@mail.gmail.com> You have to love early-morning runs! Wonder what the 'old' record was? I've driven on some of those streets ('60's)...but my VW didn't run like that! Thanks Buster. Herb From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu Aug 16 16:22:55 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:22:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] TR Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10708161522l4632b0del2d1b183adf3db113@mail.gmail.com> Last week I sent a message regarding the TR8. Didn't receive even one...good or bad...reply. Did it make it to you guys (and gals)? Herb From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Aug 16 16:29:42 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:29:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] TR References: <2ad6c6b10708161522l4632b0del2d1b183adf3db113@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <003001c7e054$f13ab660$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Last week I sent a message regarding the TR8. > Didn't receive even one...good or bad...reply. > Did it make it to you guys (and gals)? Herb, Yes, your message came through. We ignored the heresy as common curtesy demanded. Otherwise we might have allowed ourselves to exhibit jealousy and other traits not proper in a good Spridgeteer ;-) Truth be told, however, I do not think I would trade a good RWA Midget for a TR7 or TR8, despite the difference in "value". My midget does what I ask of it in a simple yet elegant manner; what more could I want? I do not have room for more cars anyway. David Lieb From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Aug 16 16:47:23 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] TR In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10708161522l4632b0del2d1b183adf3db113@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <218331.82943.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- WFO Herb wrote: > Last week I sent a message regarding the TR8. > Did it make it to you guys (and gals)? Herb, We got it. We're just feigning ambivalence to help keep the values down for you TR8 lovers. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Thu Aug 16 17:10:35 2007 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:10:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] TR Message-ID: <572601c7e05a$a715a300$0e6a010a@mail2world.com> Ain't that the truth! :) Although I have to admit that the drop-top wedge looks pretty good, and a V8 is always fun. -=Chris (keepin' the fleet of five alive) Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: David Lieb [dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com] Sent: 8/16/2007 6:29:42 PM To: froggi60 at gmail.com;spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] TR I do not have room for more cars anyway. David Lieb From mconn2 at bright.net Thu Aug 16 17:39:26 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:39:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Message-ID: <004e01c7e05e$af969ee0$d134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> List, What do you do to prevent e-mails coming from the List when you won't be around for a time, and don't want other people to be bothered with it? Look forward to hearing from you. Michael From wmgilroy at gmail.com Thu Aug 16 17:49:39 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:49:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] TR In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10708161522l4632b0del2d1b183adf3db113@mail.gmail.com> References: <2ad6c6b10708161522l4632b0del2d1b183adf3db113@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <441250190708161649q39ce7ee4vc7dd148906182ec4@mail.gmail.com> I really wanted a car that is the "Shape of things that have came". Rimshot! Montana Bob On 8/16/07, WFO Herb wrote: > > Last week I sent a message regarding the TR8. > > Didn't receive even one...good or bad...reply. > > Did it make it to you guys (and gals)? > > Herb > _______________________________________________ > wmgilroy at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Vote for Team Death Trap at http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx each day and vote for until Aug. 8th and forward this onto anyone who can help spread the word. From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Thu Aug 16 17:52:26 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:52:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) References: <004e01c7e05e$af969ee0$d134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <02a201c7e060$80ea00d0$6501a8c0@actualshop> Click on the very last line of EVERY List post, scroll down and enter your password, Michael. Scroll down the new page and (I think) what you want is 1st Option. From rbc_48183 at yahoo.com Thu Aug 16 18:19:39 2007 From: rbc_48183 at yahoo.com (roger cotting) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:19:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] TR8 Message-ID: <79386.87514.qm@web36412.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I love my Bugeye, the car I raced in the 70's, the car I have as a really fast street car, but if I want to get my kicks, I drive by the local teenage hangout and rev my TR8 engine. The looks are priceless! Roger Roger Cotting --------------------------------- Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Aug 16 18:29:16 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:29:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] TR References: <218331.82943.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003a01c7e065$a58b3170$0201a8c0@midget> >> Last week I sent a message regarding the TR8. >> Did it make it to you guys (and gals)? > > Herb, > We got it. We're just feigning ambivalence to help > keep the values down for you TR8 lovers. > Ron Ron, Ron, Ron, WE aren't keeping the values down, BMC or BL or whoever it was at the time did this "far above our power to add or detract". We CAN, however, do our feeble best to keep the prices down... The required stones having been cast, I will admit to a weakness for a nice convertible TR8. David Lieb From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Thu Aug 16 19:08:09 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:08:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [9issa] TR References: <2ad6c6b10708161522l4632b0del2d1b183adf3db113@mail.gmail.com> <01c201c7e05f$c12a0560$22aa0644@internetpc> Message-ID: <005801c7e06b$137c8a80$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> Boy DO I know how that goes, Bob!!!!!!! LOL From mconn2 at bright.net Thu Aug 16 19:21:52 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:21:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Message-ID: <001a01c7e06c$fe715b00$d134ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> List, Thank you for telling me how to leave the list until Augest 24th. Michael From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Thu Aug 16 21:07:13 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:07:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] TR References: <2ad6c6b10708161522l4632b0del2d1b183adf3db113@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002a01c7e07b$b7066f80$f675fea9@p0k7l8> I saw it! So you can throw rocks at me on the way to Palo Alto for not responding!! Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "WFO Herb" To: "Ed's Spridgeteers" <9issa at justbrits.com>; "Spridgeteers" Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 3:22 PM Subject: [Spridgets] TR > Last week I sent a message regarding the TR8. > > Didn't receive even one...good or bad...reply. > > Did it make it to you guys (and gals)? > > Herb From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Fri Aug 17 00:17:35 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 23:17:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Need Rear Main Bearing Seal References: Message-ID: <006b01c7e096$4f7173e0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Hi Bruce, That's a part that doesn't interchange well. The one that was on the engine ideally should be there. BUT! If you're going to rob one from another block, it should be line bored so it fits properly. A 2"main one from a 1098 might fit initially OK, but save yourself some grief and get it line bored. It's part of the rear main scroll seal arrangement and requires close tolerances to work well. Best, Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 8:18 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Need Rear Main Bearing Seal > Can't find the top half of the rear main bearing cap, the part that > attaches with 3 bolts and sticks out past the rear engine plate. > > I need this to continue putting together a 1275 engine. I had it when I > took the engine apart, searched through all my baggies -- it's gone. > > Question: Does anyone have a spare? Can I buy a new one? > > I have a 1098 engine sitting on the floor that I could remove that rear > engine plate and then take of it's seal - but that's a last resort (I'm > assuming the one from a 1098 engine will fit the 1275) > > Any thoughts? > > Thanks....Bruce From wmgilroy at gmail.com Fri Aug 17 01:01:15 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 00:01:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] CL deal only $700 Message-ID: <441250190708170001t55997659n1512ca4afcfb7a1e@mail.gmail.com> This guy is an optimist! http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/pts/398696911.html From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Fri Aug 17 03:48:33 2007 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:48:33 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Need Rear Main Bearing Seal In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <761823.24904.qm@web50605.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Only after timing the cam last week did i remember what i learned 8 years ago. do the rear main seal FIRST! not later but before you fix the crankshaft down. live and learn...again I bet you put it "in a safe place" eh? Andy mkiia sprite soon to be 1275 and 5speeded bberlin at chubb.com wrote: Can't find the top half of the rear main bearing cap, the part that attaches with 3 bolts and sticks out past the rear engine plate. I need this to continue putting together a 1275 engine. I had it when I took the engine apart, searched through all my baggies -- it's gone. Question: Does anyone have a spare? Can I buy a new one? I have a 1098 engine sitting on the floor that I could remove that rear engine plate and then take of it's seal - but that's a last resort (I'm assuming the one from a 1098 engine will fit the 1275) Any thoughts? Thanks....Bruce _______________________________________________ a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Sick of deleting your inbox? Yahoo!7 Mail has free unlimited storage. Get it now. From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Fri Aug 17 08:11:04 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy, Ph.D.) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 09:11:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] RE: Bugeye Group..... Holy sheeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittttttttttttttttttt!!!!! In-Reply-To: <12076608.1187196413005.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <12076608.1187196413005.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1187359864.46c5ac78bce5b@mail.opentransfer.com> Gotta love the missed shift at about 3:30 or so. It is a "blended" movie. It gets dark about 6 minutes in, but when the girl shows up, it's broad daylight again. Larry Quoting type79 at ix.netcom.com: > There's a wealth of information on this short movie including speculation who > was the real driver and the other circumstances about it's filming. Fact or > fiction? I don't know. > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ > > -----Original Message----- > >From: "Robert D. Gardner" > >Sent: Aug 15, 2007 12:36 PM > >To: bugeye at yahoogroups.com, Spridgets at autox.team.net, > midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com > >Subject: [midgetsprite] RE: Bugeye Group..... Holy > sheeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittttttttttttttttttt!!!!! > > > >Great movie! > > > >I have a copy of it on video tape that I got around 25 years ago. Great to > >see it again. He went just a little faster than a taxi driver I had in > >Paris who took us to the exact same spot! It was the best taxi ride I have > >ever had. > > > >Cheers, > > > >Bob in San Diego > _______________________________________________ > lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at bbl.med.upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. From bberlin at chubb.com Fri Aug 17 12:20:49 2007 From: bberlin at chubb.com (bberlin at chubb.com) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:20:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Missing Rear Main Scroll In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've located the missing piece and while it's being sent to me I'll disassemble the engine for line-boring. A little more experience will be gained in engine-building. The hardest part to me was timing in the cam, this time it definitely will be easier One thing I forgot to mention that the crankshaft is not the original one from the engine, it was in to bad a shape to correct, so another used one was located and corrected. There's another arguement for line-boring the block. I did ask the machine shop about line-boring and they said it wasn't needed. The ultimate responsibility is mine. Thanks all From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Fri Aug 17 12:58:33 2007 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:58:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] CL deal only $700 Message-ID: <137101c7e100$9bcab070$056a010a@mail2world.com> Yeah, but if he spent an hour with a wrwnch and another hour washing it, he might be able to get more than the $50 it looks like it's worth in the photos. :) -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Bill Gilroy [wmgilroy at gmail.com] Sent: 8/17/2007 3:01:15 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] CL deal only $700 This guy is an optimist! http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/pts/398696911.html _______________________________________________ From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Fri Aug 17 13:20:45 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:20:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Missing Rear Main Scroll References: Message-ID: <002d01c7e103$b7387330$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> There is the ULTIMATE reason to let the machine shop ASSEMBLE it, folks!!!!! I LOVE building motors but then I HAVE to warrentee it. That's why I have them do it!! From wmgilroy at gmail.com Fri Aug 17 14:34:04 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:34:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] CL deal only $700 In-Reply-To: <137101c7e100$9bcab070$056a010a@mail2world.com> References: <137101c7e100$9bcab070$056a010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: <441250190708171334k272c8ee5k3340356e0e1add99@mail.gmail.com> Tough to wash the rust off the front end. On 8/17/07, Chris King wrote: > > Yeah, but if he spent an hour with a wrwnch and another hour washing it, > he might be able to get more than the $50 it looks like it's worth in the > photos. :) > > -=Chris > > Chris King > http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ > <-----Original Message-----> > > > > *From: Bill Gilroy [wmgilroy at gmail.com]* > Sent: 8/17/2007 3:01:15 AM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] CL deal only $700 > > This guy is an optimist! > > http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/pts/398696911.html > _______________________________________________ > > > -- Vote for Team Death Trap at http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx each day and vote for until Aug. 8th and forward this onto anyone who can help spread the word. From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Aug 17 15:02:21 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:02:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Missing Rear Main Scroll In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <261063.36353.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- bberlin at chubb.com wrote: > engine-building. The hardest > part to me was timing in the cam, this > time it definitely will be easier Last time I did this I took pics step by step in case anyone would like them. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri Aug 17 14:57:41 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:57:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] OK, Whodunit? Message-ID: <380-2200785172057410@earthlink.net> OK, who is it? I have received in the mail a brand new, Mint-in-the-Box 1:18 black Cadillac Escalade. It is from the "DUB CITY BIG BALLER$ Diecast Collection". Made in China for "Jada Toys" in the City of Industry, California. Yes, I double checked, and it was addressed to me, and the return address is handwritten from someone completely unknown to me, and from a city, town, or village I have never heard of. Oh, it looks pretty enough, but I don't collect them, don't necessarily care for them, and the only model cars in the house belong to the grandkids. It is all a mystery to me. Since it is a car, I figure it has to be someone on these lists. WHO DONE IT???? Buster From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Fri Aug 17 15:13:47 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:13:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OK, Whodunit? In-Reply-To: <380-2200785172057410@earthlink.net> References: <380-2200785172057410@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0708171413u6bd4ec1fkf0cfa8386b4a82f6@mail.gmail.com> don't put it in your mouth, unless you want to enter a Dandy-Walker look-alike contest. On 8/17/07, Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > OK, who is it? I have received in the mail a brand new, Mint-in-the-Box 1:18 black Cadillac Escalade. It is from the "DUB CITY BIG BALLER$ Diecast Collection". Made in China for "Jada Toys" in the City of Industry, California. Yes, I double checked, and it was addressed to me, and the return address is handwritten from someone completely unknown to me, and from a city, town, or village I have never heard of. Oh, it looks pretty enough, but I don't collect them, don't necessarily care for them, and the only model cars in the house belong to the grandkids. It is all a mystery to me. Since it is a car, I figure it has to be someone on these lists. > > WHO DONE IT???? > > Buster > _______________________________________________ > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri Aug 17 15:11:29 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:11:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] OK, Whodunit? Message-ID: <380-220078517211129312@earthlink.net> res0kpqgverizon.net wrote: "If this were a game of Clue, my vote would be for Clarici in the bathroom with a plunger....In any case, whatever you do, DO NOT eat the paint. " Naw, it can't be Frank. I think I said it was made in China. And the box has that somewhat "made in China" look to it. Does ANYONE in their right mind think that Frank would throw away good American money on something from "there"? Nope. He has too much common sense. And as for the paint, I will readily admit to being dumb, but I ain't stupid! (I have even conned some people into believing that.) Buster From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Aug 17 15:24:22 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:24:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OK, Whodunit? References: <380-2200785172057410@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <00db01c7e114$fb045870$0201a8c0@midget> > WHO DONE IT???? Not I Of course, if you were to re-word the question to "who is going to do it next"... From pelliott at innercite.com Fri Aug 17 18:45:00 2007 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Patrick Elliott) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 17:45:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] OK, Whodunit? In-Reply-To: <380-2200785172057410@earthlink.net> References: <380-2200785172057410@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <002d01c7e131$024a0140$06de03c0$@com> Just for clarification and edification, What is your address? Patrick Elliott www.SyilAmerica.com 541 297 0004 -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+pelliott=innercite.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+pelliott=innercite.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Bruce Evans Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 1:58 PM To: Spridgets at autox.team.net; midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com; bugeye at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Spridgets] OK, Whodunit? OK, who is it? I have received in the mail a brand new, Mint-in-the-Box 1:18 black Cadillac Escalade. It is from the "DUB CITY BIG BALLER$ Diecast Collection". Made in China for "Jada Toys" in the City of Industry, California. Yes, I double checked, and it was addressed to me, and the return address is handwritten from someone completely unknown to me, and from a city, town, or village I have never heard of. Oh, it looks pretty enough, but I don't collect them, don't necessarily care for them, and the only model cars in the house belong to the grandkids. It is all a mystery to me. Since it is a car, I figure it has to be someone on these lists. WHO DONE IT???? Buster _______________________________________________ pelliott at innercite.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.0/957 - Release Date: 8/16/2007 1:46 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.0/957 - Release Date: 8/16/2007 1:46 PM From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Fri Aug 17 21:26:43 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:26:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OK, Whodunit? In-Reply-To: <380-220078517211129312@earthlink.net> References: <380-220078517211129312@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Chinese committee for better relations?? Lester Sent from my iPhone On Aug 17, 2007, at 4:11 PM, "Robert Bruce Evans" wrote: > res0kpqgverizon.net wrote: "If this were a game of Clue, my vote > would be for Clarici in the bathroom with a plunger....In any case, > whatever you do, DO NOT eat the paint. " > > Naw, it can't be Frank. I think I said it was made in China. And > the box has that somewhat "made in China" look to it. Does ANYONE > in their right mind think that Frank would throw away good American > money on something from "there"? Nope. He has too much common > sense. > > And as for the paint, I will readily admit to being dumb, but I > ain't stupid! (I have even conned some people into believing that.) > > Buster > _______________________________________________ > oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dwoerpel at wi.net Fri Aug 17 22:48:41 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:48:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP again Message-ID: <46C67A29.4090105@wi.net> Anyone know anything about this product? http://www.7ent.com/detail.cfm?pageid=2957 Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS Burlington WI From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Aug 17 22:54:39 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:54:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP again References: <46C67A29.4090105@wi.net> Message-ID: <00f201c7e153$e2b69460$0201a8c0@midget> > Anyone know anything about this product? > http://www.7ent.com/detail.cfm?pageid=2957 Oooo, notice that they say nothing about PPM either? I also notice that they charge $9.98 for the same bottle that JR Motorsports sells for $3.99. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri Aug 17 22:59:36 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:59:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP again In-Reply-To: <46C67A29.4090105@wi.net> Message-ID: This oil does contain the EP additive package ZDDP in percentages over 0.14% which is at recommended levels to protect flat tappets http://www.lubriplate.com/ From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri Aug 17 23:00:22 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:00:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] On a Clear Day... Message-ID: <3813-2200786185022390@earthlink.net> Anyone who wants a better understanding of how General Motors came to screw up and forget what the public likes, simply needs to watch: http://tinyurl.com/2ro66l . or http://autos.msn.com/advice/article.aspx?contentid=4022981&src=News And then read John Z. DeLorean's heretical book, "On a Clear Day You Can See General Motors: John Z. DeLoreans Look Inside the Automotive Giant". Grosse Pointe, MI: Wright Enterprises, 1979. ISBN-10: 0960356207 It was written in the days after he had been canned, but before the DeLorean, the fraud against the British Government in Northern Ireland, and before "snow" fall from grace. In looking at the article, be sure to watch the Broadband video by the owner who sold it at Barrett-Jackson. From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Aug 17 23:24:33 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:24:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] On a Clear Day... In-Reply-To: <3813-2200786185022390@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <295178.97043.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > And then read John Z. DeLorean's heretical book, "On > a Clear Day You Can See General Motors: John Z. > DeLoreans Look Inside the Automotive Giant". Grosse > Pointe, MI: Wright Enterprises, 1979. ISBN-10: > 0960356207 Also read David Halberstam's "The Reckoning." Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ From herby at herbytoys.com Sat Aug 18 00:27:00 2007 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:27:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Rare Midget part? (ebay) Message-ID: <000801c7e160$ca3eece0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> Here is the ultra rare MG Midget IRS. Get it quick. http://tinyurl.com/36sbv7 Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Aug 18 03:08:37 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 04:08:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP again In-Reply-To: References: <46C67A29.4090105@wi.net> Message-ID: I called our company's Schaeffer's rep, and they do, and will continue to carry a moly oil, with zinc in it. http://www.schaefferoil.com/motor_oils.html The rep returned my call, when I was in the middle of a meeting with another sales rep, so I didn't get to talk to him long. But the link above has a dealer locator page, so that you can call someone in your area. Brad On 8/17/07, Billy Zoom wrote: > This oil does contain the EP additive package ZDDP in percentages over 0.14% > which is at recommended levels to protect flat tappets > http://www.lubriplate.com/ > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Sat Aug 18 05:46:40 2007 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 04:46:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP again Message-ID: <27c901c7e18d$70ee4410$0d6a010a@mail2world.com> You can get something similar at your local GM dealer: http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/engine/flat_tappet_cam_tech/photo_05. html I don't know price, ppm. YMMV, etc. -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: David Woerpel [dwoerpel at wi.net] Sent: 8/18/2007 12:48:41 AM To: mgs at autox.team.net;Spridgets at autox.team.net;spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP again Anyone know anything about this product? http://www.7ent.com/detail.cfm?pageid=2957 Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS Burlington WI _______________________________________________ From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Aug 18 06:48:12 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 07:48:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP again References: Message-ID: <016801c7e196$0aeebab0$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" To: "David Woerpel" ; "MGs" ; "Spridgets" ; Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 11:59 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ZDDP again This oil does contain the EP additive package ZDDP in percentages over 0.14% which is at recommended levels to protect flat tappets http://www.lubriplate.com/ _______________________________________________ Huh? It specifically says "zinc free". From mdmyers_ct at juno.com Sat Aug 18 07:02:15 2007 From: mdmyers_ct at juno.com (Michael D Myers) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 09:02:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP again Message-ID: <20070818.090216.3892.0.mdmyers_ct@juno.com> I would not use this in an engine, it is a gearbox and does not have the additives to deal with the combustion temperatures and by products (i.e. water dispersants and detergents). Mike Myers On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:59:36 -0700 Billy Zoom writes: > This oil does contain the EP additive package ZDDP in percentages > over 0.14% > which is at recommended levels to protect flat tappets > http://www.lubriplate.com/ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Aug 18 07:13:03 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 06:13:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP again In-Reply-To: <016801c7e196$0aeebab0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: ebay 150150932993 From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Sat Aug 18 09:03:52 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 08:03:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 12 volt 2 amp screw base bulb Message-ID: <872298.7188.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> HELP NEEDED ! I need a source for a 12Volt 2 amp screw base bulb for the water/oil pressure gauge. I have tried Pep boys, Radio shack and several auto parts stores. Tomorrow i guess i will start calling the electronic stores. I can not believe it is not available in a local store. Any one ever buy one local that can give me an idea where to look.? Vigil California --------------------------------- Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search. From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Aug 18 09:04:45 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 09:04:45 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Rare Midget part? (ebay) In-Reply-To: <000801c7e160$ca3eece0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> References: <000801c7e160$ca3eece0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> Message-ID: <5f00d9910708180804pd815811g96bb103fb3931ccf@mail.gmail.com> That's from a 57 Bugeye, right? From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Aug 18 09:12:18 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 10:12:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rare Midget part? (ebay) In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910708180804pd815811g96bb103fb3931ccf@mail.gmail.com> References: <000801c7e160$ca3eece0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> <5f00d9910708180804pd815811g96bb103fb3931ccf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I asked the seller what year it was off of, and he thinks it is off one earlier than a 60. He will let me know later, what year it is from On 8/18/07, derf wrote: > That's from a 57 Bugeye, right? > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From dmg at bossig.com Sat Aug 18 09:12:48 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 08:12:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 12 volt 2 amp screw base bulb In-Reply-To: <872298.7188.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <872298.7188.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46C6AA00.13454.42FA9B@dmg.bossig.com> Vigil, You must have the spec wrong... 12V 2A is 24 Watts!! Much too bright! That's almost a headlight! I think you may be looking for a 12V 2Watt... Let me know if you can't locate one. I think I may have one or two in an old harness in the garage... Dave G. On 18 Aug 2007 at 8:03, uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com wrote: >> I need a source for a 12Volt 2 amp screw base bulb for the water/oil >> pressure gauge. - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Sat Aug 18 10:36:12 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 11:36:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Strange front bumper In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200708181631.l7IGVleA006832@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> Hi all- I was doing a garage clean out/mental check and needed to re-sort my part bins for my Sprite. I guess I never really looked at it before, but my front bumper has a real odd look to it, with just a single guard in the center. A photo of it is on the bottom of my page http://www.elmbrookcomputers.com/sprite.html Is this original? I have not seen one like this in any photos. Thanks- Chris 1966 MKIII Brookfield, WI From type79 at ix.netcom.com Sat Aug 18 11:04:04 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 13:04:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Strange front bumper Message-ID: <33310359.1187456644218.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Chris, Some might guess that's a prototype bumper from an early Edsel design but it isn't. It is a Spridget bumper that an enterprising owner who lacking a pair of overriders decided to split the difference and mount the only one he did have in the center. Personally I think it's beautiful and would restore it and install it as is. Incredible find. Good Luck, jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ -----Original Message----- >From: Chris Manuel >Sent: Aug 18, 2007 12:36 PM >To: 'Spridget List' >Subject: [Spridgets] Strange front bumper > >Hi all- > >I was doing a garage clean out/mental check and needed to re-sort my part >bins for my Sprite. > >I guess I never really looked at it before, but my front bumper has a real >odd look to it, with just a single guard in the center. A photo of it is on >the bottom of my page > >http://www.elmbrookcomputers.com/sprite.html > >Is this original? I have not seen one like this in any photos. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Aug 18 11:05:56 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:05:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Strange front bumper In-Reply-To: <200708181631.l7IGVleA006832@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> References: <200708181631.l7IGVleA006832@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: Somebody took off the license plate mount, and put the one over rider there. That isn't original. On 8/18/07, Chris Manuel wrote: > Hi all- > > I was doing a garage clean out/mental check and needed to re-sort my part > bins for my Sprite. > > I guess I never really looked at it before, but my front bumper has a real > odd look to it, with just a single guard in the center. A photo of it is on > the bottom of my page > > http://www.elmbrookcomputers.com/sprite.html > > Is this original? I have not seen one like this in any photos. > > > Thanks- > > > Chris > > 1966 MKIII > Brookfield, WI > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Aug 18 11:10:32 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 10:10:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Strange front bumper In-Reply-To: <200708181631.l7IGVleA006832@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: > Is this original? Yes, but it usually only came with the Cyclops headlight option. From wmgilroy at gmail.com Sat Aug 18 11:21:15 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 10:21:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Rare Midget part? (ebay) In-Reply-To: References: <000801c7e160$ca3eece0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> <5f00d9910708180804pd815811g96bb103fb3931ccf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <441250190708181021y4d1de51al99d453987cdb9ad3@mail.gmail.com> Maybe someone should tell him it looks like it is off a spitfire? On 8/18/07, Brad Fornal wrote: > > I asked the seller what year it was off of, and he thinks it is off > one earlier than a 60. He will let me know later, what year it is from > > On 8/18/07, derf wrote: > > That's from a 57 Bugeye, right? > > _______________________________________________ > > tequila.brad at gmail.com > > > > Edit your replies > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > > -- > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > wmgilroy at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Vote for Team Death Trap at http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com/Seattle-2007/wildcard.aspx each day and vote for until Aug. 8th and forward this onto anyone who can help spread the word. From thcollin at mtu.edu Sat Aug 18 11:53:26 2007 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 13:53:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Strange front bumper In-Reply-To: <200708181631.l7IGVleA006832@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> References: <200708181631.l7IGVleA006832@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <60313l$o86v3@email.mtu.edu> Chris, My sister-in-law just sent me a series of pictures titled: "Husband of the Year." They show things like big bubba in a row boat while his tiny wife rows the boat, The woman carrying a dozen of six packs while the husband carries one can, . . . well you get the pictures. Now had you been IN your Sprite while the kids were pushing, you could have been a candidate for FATHER of the Year!! LOL At 12:36 PM 8/18/2007, Chris Manuel wrote: >Hi all- > >I was doing a garage clean out/mental check and needed to re-sort my part >bins for my Sprite. Tim Collins From herby at herbytoys.com Sat Aug 18 13:03:36 2007 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:03:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Strange front bumper In-Reply-To: <200708181631.l7IGVleA006832@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <000001c7e1ca$7c88ec20$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> I think you should put it on ebay as another rare 57 Bugeye part like the equally rare IRS :) Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com I guess I never really looked at it before, but my front bumper has a real odd look to it, with just a single guard in the center. A photo of it is on the bottom of my page http://www.elmbrookcomputers.com/sprite.html Is this original? I have not seen one like this in any photos. Thanks- Chris 1966 MKIII Brookfield, WI From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Aug 18 13:18:54 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:18:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Strange front bumper In-Reply-To: <000001c7e1ca$7c88ec20$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> Message-ID: I believe that bumper was the factory French spec export model. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Aug 18 14:58:40 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 15:58:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Colour advice needed Message-ID: I am getting the motor and tranny ready to go back into the 68. I am NOT looking to go concours, but since I AM painting everything, I still want to do it right. I had seen some paint on the tranny, so I painted it. I read in the standards that ribcases were never painted, oh well, it looks nice. I need to know what colour the fan blade pully, and starter should be. Also, is the intake painted or raw aluminium? Thank you, Brad -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From dmg at bossig.com Sat Aug 18 15:14:06 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:14:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine color?? Message-ID: <46C6FEAE.21296.18DC141@dmg.bossig.com> Can any one tell me what vehicle a fire engine red 1275 may have come out of??? I found a few photos under the trunk carpet... the engine shown on the hoist is red, the engine in the car is green and doesn''t have the correct number for a Spridget... TIA - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Aug 18 15:39:34 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 15:39:34 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine color?? In-Reply-To: <46C6FEAE.21296.18DC141@dmg.bossig.com> References: <46C6FEAE.21296.18DC141@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910708181439g35a95bf0g575f469e0e3d2b3a@mail.gmail.com> A Morris Fire Engine? From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Sat Aug 18 17:08:53 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:08:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine color?? References: <46C6FEAE.21296.18DC141@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <00a301c7e1ec$befc5d90$6501a8c0@actualshop> What is the casting number, Dave?? From lists at woozy.com Sat Aug 18 18:29:10 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 20:29:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Muffler Recommendations? Message-ID: <46C78ED6.8010802@woozy.com> Does anyone have any recommendations for a replacement muffler other than the stock or Monza mufflers that are sold by the usual suspects? This is for a 1275 with a LCB header. Thanks! Robert Weeks From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Aug 18 20:28:01 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 20:28:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Muffler Recommendations? In-Reply-To: <46C78ED6.8010802@woozy.com> References: <46C78ED6.8010802@woozy.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910708181928t2bebc51keae8bf1fa359ff8@mail.gmail.com> I like the good old Flowmasters. You can find many different configurations and good prices on ebay. Cheers, Derf From smarc at smarc.net Sat Aug 18 22:34:51 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 00:34:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil leak from dip stick? Message-ID: <46C7C86B.7020907@smarc.net> I got the midget started up and backed out of the garage today. Tweaked the carbs a little, still not ready for a good shake out run. Went into the garage for a screw driver and noticed a pretty good oil puddle where the midget had been sitting. Closer look at the engine, I see a little oil seepage at the valve cover hold down nut, and oil seeping from the dip stick. I know this can't be good. Never seen this car run much, was a project when I got it. There was a lot of vapor coming from the hose on the timing cover - I plumbed that to a T fitting and ran it to the SU's. I never saw that much vapor from any of my mgb's, but this is my first midget (73, 1275) so have no idea whats normal. The valve cover vent has a hose hanging to the underside like a road draft tube. There is a small amount of vapor coming from that as well. Obviously there is unwanted pressure in the engine block, but why? This engine has had some kind of work in the past, the head is a different color from the block. Although a little hard to start (haven't replaced points, wires, plugs or tuned the carbs I just installed) one started it runs and idles very smoothly. What do I do / look for? Car was desmogged when I got it... -- Marc From wmgilroy at gmail.com Sun Aug 19 02:21:53 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 01:21:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil leak from dip stick? In-Reply-To: <46C7C86B.7020907@smarc.net> References: <46C7C86B.7020907@smarc.net> Message-ID: <441250190708190121l3a9e6c93he848743034d1d22a@mail.gmail.com> Excessive piston blow by? I saw that on one of the engines in my Midget. A compression test should help confirm or deny that blow by theory. Is it a 1275 or a SpitFiget? -g On 8/18/07, Marc wrote: > > > Went into the garage for a screw driver and noticed a pretty good oil > puddle where the midget had been sitting. Closer look at the engine, I > see a little oil seepage at the valve cover hold down nut, and oil > seeping from the dip stick. I know this can't be good. From dmg at bossig.com Sun Aug 19 09:34:02 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 08:34:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine color?? In-Reply-To: <00a301c7e1ec$befc5d90$6501a8c0@actualshop> References: <46C6FEAE.21296.18DC141@dmg.bossig.com>, <00a301c7e1ec$befc5d90$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <46C8007A.1901.553FF9@dmg.bossig.com> Ed, On 18 Aug 2007 at 18:08, 63AHBJ7 wrote: >> What is the casting number, Dave?? The block casting number is 12G/1279... found on LHS under #4 exhaust port.. I verified that the carb numbers are correct for a 1275. The manifold number is for a Spridget manifold but the carb fuel bowls are at the wrong angle which suggests a Mini influence somewhere... The head casting number is 12G940 I don't have the car at home at the moment. I sent it to Walla-Walla yesterday to have the 3.9 put in and some other physical work done. I don't have the same "go for it" since the triple bypass ;-( I had just put the working fuel gauge in (Thanks, Frank) only to find that the 12V wire didn't carry 12V.... one more thing to chase down. Also found that the passenger floor pan "Oil Cans".... maybe some sticky sound deadening stuff will fix that... I managed to fix the Audiovox AM radio and put it in a console I had from a '73(?). The console looks OK sitting on the table. I figure that I can at least listen to the local stations while I am working on the car.... -- Dave G. '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Aug 19 10:15:47 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 16:15:47 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Muffler Recommendations? Message-ID: If 1.75" diameter collector/exhaust system...."early" MGB ANSA rear box assembly. Not cheap but heavily well-built with great sound. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From danwigi at yahoo.com Sun Aug 19 13:57:37 2007 From: danwigi at yahoo.com (Danny Wigington) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 12:57:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Leaf Springs Message-ID: <386940.55348.qm@web56801.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hello all, my name is Dan. I recently became the proud owner of a 1971 Midget and I am trying to sort out a few problems on this car. The one that I need help on now is finding some good leaf springs, preferably in the San Jose area. From what I have read the new ones are made of a lower quality metal so I hoping someone would have some good used ones or some ideas as to who makes good ones. I have had many British cars since 1969, and this was the first one I have seen with smooth-case gears in a rib-case transmission. Fortunately I had a spare rib-case that I did not get rid when I lost my storage. Thanks, Dan --------------------------------- Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Aug 19 14:43:57 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 14:43:57 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil leak from dip stick? In-Reply-To: <46C7C86B.7020907@smarc.net> References: <46C7C86B.7020907@smarc.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910708191343xdf0cba6i8ed8a83dd86895b1@mail.gmail.com> Lack of proper PCV? From higgs6 at cogeco.ca Sun Aug 19 17:14:46 2007 From: higgs6 at cogeco.ca (Greg Higgins) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 19:14:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] oil coming from dip stick Message-ID: <000d01c7e2b6$bbe96970$c402a8c0@higgs> I have seen an engine with oil coming up through the dip stick. The problem was 2 broken piston rings on # 4 cylinder, just my 2 cents. Greg Higgins From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Aug 19 18:26:27 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 00:26:27 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP again Message-ID: JR Motorsports sells the same quantity of Clevite Engine Assembly Lube as 7 Ent. for only $4.00?? Where? I can't find it on JR's website. Please point me in the right direction. This is good stuff. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Aug 19 18:35:25 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 19:35:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP again References: Message-ID: <00bf01c7e2c2$00a16b20$0201a8c0@midget> > JR Motorsports sells the same quantity of > Clevite Engine Assembly Lube as 7 Ent. for only $4.00?? Where? I can't > find it on JR's website. Please point me in the right direction. This is > good stuff. I did a google on "clevite 77 bearing guard" and found this: http://www.jrmotorsportsltd.com/product.cfm/productID/884.cfm From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Aug 19 19:01:45 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 01:01:45 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP again Message-ID: Many thanx, David. Could not find it under their products for some odd reason. Just ordered a 1 gal. jug. Excellent price. Thanx again!:) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) -----Original Message----- From: David Lieb Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 8:35 PM To: Robert E. Shlafer, Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ZDDP again > JR Motorsports sells the same quantity of > Clevite Engine Assembly Lube as 7 Ent. for only $4.00?? Where? I can't > find it on JR's website. Please point me in the right direction. This is > good stuff. I did a google on "clevite 77 bearing guard" and found this: http://www.jrmotorsportsltd.com/product.cfm/productID/884.cfm _______________________________________________ pilotrob at webtv.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dwramsey at att.net Sun Aug 19 19:23:41 2007 From: dwramsey at att.net (dwramsey at att.net) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 01:23:41 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine color?? Message-ID: <082020070123.22973.46C8ED1C000D6FD2000059BD2160376223970A9C030E9D990B@att.net> The angle of the float bowl is determined by the round "rubber" gasket between the body and bowl. Swap the two gaskets front carb to back carb the angle of the bowls should line up. One way works for inline and the other for transverse engines. I also paint the fan and other parts John Deere yellow. Crash From dmeadow at juno.com Sun Aug 19 19:26:36 2007 From: dmeadow at juno.com (dmeadow at juno.com) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 20:26:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP again Message-ID: <20070819.203633.312.0.dmeadow@juno.com> FWIW, this is this stuff my (2nd generation) machinist uses religiously. He says it is good for motors that sit a while before being used, as well. On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 19:35:25 -0500 "David Lieb" writes: > > JR Motorsports sells the same quantity of > > Clevite Engine Assembly Lube as 7 Ent. for only $4.00?? Where? I > can't > > find it on JR's website. Please point me in the right direction. > This is > > good stuff. > > I did a google on "clevite 77 bearing guard" and found this: > http://www.jrmotorsportsltd.com/product.cfm/productID/884.cfm > _______________________________________________ From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Sun Aug 19 19:47:20 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 20:47:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP again References: <00bf01c7e2c2$00a16b20$0201a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <031601c7e2cc$0bfe7620$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> David, you didn't EXPECT Cap' to even think to use EVERYBODIES "best friend", much less know HOW to use it, did you???? LOL From hal at katemuir.com Sun Aug 19 20:13:42 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 19:13:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP again In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Cap'n Bob said, "Just ordered a 1 gal. jug. Excellent price." Cap'n boB, how many engines are you assembling???????????? Hal From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Aug 19 21:00:38 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 03:00:38 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] TR-8 Message-ID: Nice interior, good sound system, easy to use convertible top, wind-up windows, quiet exhaust....it's sorta like a girl's car, isn't it?? :):) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From dmg at bossig.com Sun Aug 19 21:02:23 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 20:02:23 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine color?? In-Reply-To: <082020070123.22973.46C8ED1C000D6FD2000059BD2160376223970A9C030E9D990B@att.net> References: <082020070123.22973.46C8ED1C000D6FD2000059BD2160376223970A9C030E9D990B@att.net> Message-ID: <46C8A1CF.13274.2CB74CC@dmg.bossig.com> Crash, I'll try that as soon as I get it back from the shop in Walla-Walla (about 70 miles away...) I'm having them do some work that I'm medically prohibited from tackling... I'm still limited to a certain level of exertion ;-( Dave G. On 20 Aug 2007 at 1:23, dwramsey at att.net wrote: >> The angle of the float bowl is determined by the round "rubber" gasket between the body and bowl. Swap the two gaskets front carb to back carb the angle of the bowls should line up. - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Aug 19 21:50:52 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 03:50:52 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP again Message-ID: "assembling"? Nope. Mixing! :) This gallon placed within smaller containers will last me about forever....which, considering I'm going on 65, ain't gonna be that long anyway! :):) According to recent input, the amount of ZDDP in oils still containing ZDDP is being reduced. I ain't Frank Clarici...rebuilds are far more expensive than Clevite. :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From b-evans at earthlink.net Sun Aug 19 21:34:23 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 20:34:23 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Old-fashioned record breaking Message-ID: <380-22007812033423687@earthlink.net> These Brits want to break speed records without a jet! Didn't know they used wheel power anymore! http://tinyurl.com/yp6h7u Buster Evans Practical Classics Salutes 23 Spridget Miracle Workers in October From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Aug 19 21:57:44 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 03:57:44 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] OK, Whodunit? Message-ID: Incidentally.... the guy in charge of the company that supplied the paint for recalled Chinese toys....killed himself last weekend. No such thing as "white collar" crime over there. You eff up by bringing dishonor upon the Chinese government or people through irresponsible behaviour.....you're done. Japanese are more or less the same way. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Mon Aug 20 05:41:08 2007 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 04:41:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] These Brits want to break speed records without a jet! Message-ID: <975579.9113.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> [These Brits want to break speed records without a jet! Didn't know they used wheel power anymore! http://tinyurl.com/yp6h7u Buster Evans Practical Classics Salutes 23 Spridget Miracle Workers in October] Jet-powered vehicles make up only a tiny percentage of the LSR records out there for the challenging and taking. Google Bonneville or LSR and you'll find classes for vehicles of every description. There are classes for every fuel type, displacement, number of driven wheels, and amount of modifications from stock you can dream up. - David Booker --------------------------------- Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Mon Aug 20 05:48:13 2007 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 7:48:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] oil coming from dip stick Message-ID: <5156453.1187610493358.JavaMail.root@wmvirt1> ---- Greg Higgins wrote: I have seen an engine with oil coming up through the dip stick. The problem was 2 broken piston rings on # 4 cylinder, just my 2 cents. Ha! That's nothing... Try putting a Judson on a freshly rebuilt engine before breaking it in! You'll find more places that can leak than you would ever expect. Don't ask me how I know... Kent 1960 Bugeye 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen From dwoerpel at wi.net Mon Aug 20 08:41:49 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 09:41:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP [Fwd: RE: Rotella Ask Our Expert: Switching Oils] Message-ID: <46C9A82D.2070107@wi.net> Here is a response to my letter in regards to Rotella T as a substitute for low ZDDP oil. Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS Burlington WI -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: Rotella Ask Our Expert: Switching Oils Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 09:27:55 -0500 From: To: David, Rotella T with Triple Protection 15W-40 CJ-4 has approximately 1200 ppm zinc (ZDDP). This is 50% more zinc than current passenger car motor oils which contain approximately 800 ppm zinc. Passenger car motor oils had approximately 1200 ppm zinc prior to 2001. In 2001 the zinc in passenger car motor oils was reduced to 1000 ppm and in 2005 reduced again to the current 800 ppm. Rotella T with Triple Protection 15W-40 does have a gasoline rating of SM (not energy conserving GF-4, would void a new car warranty). http://www.shellusserver.com/products/pdf/RotellaT(CJ-4).pdf http://www.api.org/certifications/engineoil/categories/upload/EngineOilGuide2006.pdf Thus, the new Rotella T with Triple Protection 15W-40 CJ-4 has the same zinc anti-wear content that passenger car motor oils had in 2000 before the current problems with flat tappet engine began. Rotella T oils should work well in your older British cars. Richard Moore Staff Engineer Shell Global Solutions (US) Inc. Westhollow Technology Center, PO Box 4327, Houston, TX 77210, United States of America 1-800-231-6950 -----Original Message----- From: dwoerpel at wi.net [mailto:dwoerpel at wi.net] Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 11:40 PM To: askshell, SLUBE-GSMR/5 Subject: Rotella Ask Our Expert: Switching Oils ------------------------------------------------ ROTELLA.com E-mail Form ------------------------------------------------ NAME David Woerpel E-MAIL ADDRESS dwoerpel at wi.net SUBJECT Switching Oils COMMENTS ---------------------------------------------- Now that ZDDP has been decreased in gasoline engine oils, what oils are applicable on my 1959 British cars? I have been told Rotella T for diesel engines would work. Is this true? Any drawbacks? Thanks, Dave ---------------------------------------------- From John.Deikis at va.gov Mon Aug 20 08:50:17 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 10:50:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Historic hot rod on PBS tonite Message-ID: Hey! This may be of interest to some. JohnD HISTORY DETECTIVES Monday, August 20, 2007 9 - 10:00 pm A man in California owns a 1932 Ford roadster that, upon purchase, had an engine too powerful for normal driving. Was the contributor's car among the popular hot rods raced out at the dry lakes? The Detectives high-tail it to California to investigate one of the most iconic hot rods of all time. (CC, Stereo) Examine our online time capsule and try to find out which year it dates from. See if you can crack the case. http://www.pbs.org/historydetectives From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Aug 20 08:59:08 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 09:59:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Historic hot rod on PBS tonite References: Message-ID: <000901c7e33a$a953acb0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > A man in California owns a 1932 Ford roadster that, upon purchase, had > an engine too powerful for normal driving. Right! We all know there is no such thing as too powerful, too fast, too beautiful, etc. From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Mon Aug 20 09:07:31 2007 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 08:07:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Heater Air Valve Control Cable Message-ID: <651140.26125.qm@web34204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Anyone got a source for the Heater Air/Valve control cable that fot Spridgets 68 and above. This is a approx 52" steel jacketed cable that goes from the rotary adjustment control to the Air/Valve on the heater box. I'm thinking it should be some sort of standard HVAC Equipment. Mine got buggered up when trying to get it working smoother. I don't see this cable in the MOSS or VB Catalogs. Just the short one from pre '68 Spridgets. Any ideas. Jim Gruber Bugsy '68 Sprite (future Bugeye in disguise) Cincinnati, OH --------------------------------- Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Mon Aug 20 09:57:10 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 08:57:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC- Next trick? Message-ID: <000401c7e343$2d365d40$f675fea9@p0k7l8> NO LBC! For the off road guys! Paul A [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type video/x-ms-wmv which had a name of 070610-004543-Metacafe-Jeep-Dump.wmv] From kevin at valentinephoto.net Mon Aug 20 10:10:37 2007 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:10:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Heater Air Valve Control Cable In-Reply-To: <651140.26125.qm@web34204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <651140.26125.qm@web34204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Aug 20, 2007, at 11:07 AM, James Gruber wrote: > Anyone got a source for the Heater Air/Valve control cable that fot > Spridgets 68 and above. This is a approx 52" > Any ideas. Jim, Lawnmower throttle cable. Kevin V. From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Mon Aug 20 10:16:55 2007 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 09:16:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Heater Air Valve Control Cable In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <134970.32434.qm@web34215.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Got an answer thanks all. Lawn Mower Supply Shop or Tractor Supply Jim Gruber Bugsy '68 Sprite (future Bugeye in disguise) Cincinnati, OH --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. From ourxke at hotmail.com Mon Aug 20 10:20:13 2007 From: ourxke at hotmail.com (Ken Wignall) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:20:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Release Bearing Message-ID: New lister today. First post. The carbon-like material of my release bearing went to pieces yesterday. Everything was a fresh rebuild just over a year ago. Making plans to pull the drivetrain. A fellow Sprite owner told me about this list and said that he had been reading that this has not been uncommon as of late with many owners. Lucky us! He recalled reading that there was someone out there that was making an actual reliable replacement release 'bearing', an actual bearing. Are there any readers that know who that supplier is? I don't want to go through this again with another inferior product. 60 A.H. Bugeye 54 A.H BN1 62 A.H MK2 62 XKE roadster _________________________________________________________________ Recharge--play some free games. Win cool prizes too! http://club.live.com/home.aspx?icid=CLUB_wlmailtextlink From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU Mon Aug 20 10:26:22 2007 From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:26:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wobbly rear wheel? Message-ID: Hi, I recently worked on my emergency brake cable and thus had the rear left wheel off. This morning while being followed in to drop the car off for inspection I was told that wheel was wobbling - the lugs were tight and pulling on the wheel produced no 'give'. It drives fine with no noticeable vibration. So the question is what could be the cause? The only thing I can think of at the moment is that when putting the wheel back on I didn't get the brake drum seated and the whole thing tightened up at a slight angle - possible? thanks, -m From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Aug 20 10:33:13 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 09:33:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wobbly rear wheel? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Bent rim. From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Mon Aug 20 10:37:54 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 09:37:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wobbly rear wheel? References: Message-ID: <00aa01c7e348$8ce64480$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Possible. But more likely a bent wheel. Don't know the type wheels you're using, but many of these wheels are not very strong. They are easily bent by the older type tire changing machines. The Coates ones that put up pressure on one side and down on the opposite to unseat the bead. Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark A. O'Neil" To: Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:26 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Wobbly rear wheel? > Hi, > > I recently worked on my emergency brake cable and thus had the rear > left wheel off. This morning while being followed in to drop the car > off for inspection I was told that wheel was wobbling - the lugs were > tight and pulling on the wheel produced no 'give'. It drives fine > with no noticeable vibration. > > So the question is what could be the cause? > > The only thing I can think of at the moment is that when putting the > wheel back on I didn't get the brake drum seated and the whole thing > tightened up at a slight angle - possible? > > > thanks, > -m From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU Mon Aug 20 10:48:57 2007 From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:48:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wobbly rear wheel? In-Reply-To: <00aa01c7e348$8ce64480$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <00aa01c7e348$8ce64480$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <0EF7929A-05F8-4DE2-AAD7-AD13A95EDACD@Dartmouth.EDU> Yes, a bent rim was also suggested by someone else. The rim in question was on the front and there was no perceptible wobble then, which is why I hadn't really considered it being bent. When I get the car back this evening, I will switch right for left and see if it wobbles on the other side. -m On Aug 20, 2007, at 12:37 PM, Paul Asgeirsson wrote: > Possible. But more likely a bent wheel. Don't know the type > wheels you're > using, but many of these wheels are not very strong. They are > easily bent > by the older type tire changing machines. The Coates ones that put up > pressure on one side and down on the opposite to unseat the bead. > > Paul A > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark A. O'Neil" > To: > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:26 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] Wobbly rear wheel? > > >> Hi, >> >> I recently worked on my emergency brake cable and thus had the rear >> left wheel off. This morning while being followed in to drop the car >> off for inspection I was told that wheel was wobbling - the lugs were >> tight and pulling on the wheel produced no 'give'. It drives fine >> with no noticeable vibration. >> >> So the question is what could be the cause? >> >> The only thing I can think of at the moment is that when putting the >> wheel back on I didn't get the brake drum seated and the whole thing >> tightened up at a slight angle - possible? >> >> >> thanks, >> -m From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU Mon Aug 20 10:54:10 2007 From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:54:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wobbly rear wheel? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9F6B908E-087E-48F6-92EB-5E226F14A0DB@dartmouth.edu> On Aug 20, 2007, at 12:38 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > Possible. But more likely a bent wheel. Don't know the type > wheels you're > using, but many of these wheels are not very strong. They are > easily bent > by the older type tire changing machines. The Coates ones that put up > pressure on one side and down on the opposite to unseat the bead. > > Paul A Which brings up the next question - where to find (affordable - daily driver) suitable replacements. Stock not necessary. -m From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Aug 20 10:54:48 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:54:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone care to check their spare parts bins? Message-ID: I am looking for a few parts I am missing for the 68 engine re-assembly project. I know there are vendors on the list, and I will hit them up next, but I thought I would ask if anyone cares to look in their spares bins. Parts needed... The 6 blade plastic fan, I'd like one that looks nice enough to go onto a repainted, purtied up engine. (I'm fairly certain this will have to be purchased new) The clips that hold the throwout bushing onto the pivot arm. A couple of exhaust manifold studs. Or, if someone knows the size, I'll run down to the local NAPA. I'm sure I'll find more, but this is what I am needing so far. I have these bit on other completed assemblies, but I would rather buy the few parts I need, than scavange something else. Thank you, Brad -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Aug 20 11:04:04 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:04:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Release Bearing References: Message-ID: <003c01c7e34c$1d1fa020$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Ken, My personal opinion is that the new replacements do not perform as well as the original ones did. I have been completely satisfied with the ones like this: http://tinyurl.com/28ha4d Thousands of trouble-free miles for me. I am not recommending Minimania as a supplier, it just happened to be the easiest place to find a picture of one. If you ask nicely, I imagine one of the suppliers on this list might give you a quote for one ;-) David Lieb From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Aug 20 11:10:40 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:10:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Release Bearing In-Reply-To: <003c01c7e34c$1d1fa020$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <003c01c7e34c$1d1fa020$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: The key to longevity on the original design, is DO NOT RIDE THE CLUTCH!!! Shift into neutral at stop lights and signs. When getting ready to take off, shift into second, and THEN into first. This will keep you from messing up your non syncro first gear, by aligning things up. Keep your foot off the clutch unless you are actually shifting. Brad On 8/20/07, David Lieb wrote: > Ken, > My personal opinion is that the new replacements do not perform as well as > the original ones did. I have been completely satisfied with the ones like > this: http://tinyurl.com/28ha4d > Thousands of trouble-free miles for me. > > I am not recommending Minimania as a supplier, it just happened to be the > easiest place to find a picture of one. If you ask nicely, I imagine one of > the suppliers on this list might give you a quote for one ;-) > David Lieb > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon Aug 20 11:42:36 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 10:42:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Supercharger advi9ce Message-ID: <380-22007812017423631@earthlink.net> A friend in England is planning to rebuild a Shorrock 75 supercharger for his Spridget. He would like any pointers on parts suppliers in the U.S.? Can anyone here help? Buster Practical Classics Salutes 23 Spridget Miracle Workers in October From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon Aug 20 14:57:37 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:57:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Don't let her go! Message-ID: <380-220078120205737187@earthlink.net> Brad Formal wrote: "Thank you Ginny!" I hope others agree Virginia should not be let off the hook and off our list just because she has to sell her car! Good people are hard to find these days! Buster Practical Classics Salutes 23 Spridget Miracle Workers in October ----- Original Message ----- From: Brad Fornal To: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com Sent: 8/20/2007 1:34:55 PM Subject: Re: [midgetsprite] Anyone care to check their spare parts bins? Brad Formal wrote: Thank you Ginny!! On 8/20/07, Virginia Leonard wrote: > I'm pretty sure I have a fan blade in a box in the garage. It's yellow but > don't remember the shape it's in. I'll look when I get home. > -----Original Message----- > From: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com [mailto:midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of Brad Fornal > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 11:55 AM > To: Spridgets; Yahoo Spridget list > Subject: [midgetsprite] Anyone care to check their spare parts bins? > I am looking for a few parts I am missing for the 68 engine > re-assembly project. I know there are vendors on the list, and I will > hit them up next, but I thought I would ask if anyone cares to look in > their spares bins. > Parts needed... > The 6 blade plastic fan, I'd like one that looks nice enough to go > onto a repainted, purtied up engine. (I'm fairly certain this will > have to be purchased new) > The clips that hold the throwout bushing onto the pivot arm. > A couple of exhaust manifold studs. Or, if someone knows the size, > I'll run down to the local NAPA. > I'm sure I'll find more, but this is what I am needing so far. I have > these bit on other completed assemblies, but I would rather buy the > few parts I need, than scavange something else. > > Thank you, > Brad> From peter at nosimport.com Mon Aug 20 15:23:50 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:23:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank'llrainya Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070820161503.0318aab8@mailbag.com> Frank and his too lovely wife Diane are in transit back to Joisey from whence they came late last week. We WERE in the midst of a nice drought, until they showed up. Now we've had several feet of rain since Saturday when we began our walking tour of Westconsin. Frank always blames PennsylRainia for the wet conditions at Carlisle every year. Methinks it is They who should be blaming him. Anyway, we had a very pleasant visit with them both. Didn't talk about cars too much. Frank, I hope the return trip was uneventful. You all are welcome any time. Peter C. From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon Aug 20 15:19:34 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:19:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank'llrainya Message-ID: <380-220078120211934421@earthlink.net> Peter C. wrote: "We WERE in the midst of a nice drought, until they showed up. Now we've had several feet of rain since Saturday..." Well, when Frank and I went to England, they had had six weeks of perfect Spring weather. When we got there, it began bucketing, and it bucketed for every day he was in England. Even when he left, it has continued to the point there were floods, deaths, and loss of homes and crops. And he wants to blame Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and all of England. I doubt that! I understand Her Majesty has posted a reward for his head on a pike, and MI-6 has sent a hit squad to Joisey. Buster Practical Classics Salutes 23 Spridget Miracle Workers in October > [Original Message] > From: Peter C > To: > Date: 8/20/2007 2:24:23 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Frank'llrainya > > Frank and his too lovely wife Diane are in transit back to Joisey > from whence they came late last week. > > We WERE in the midst of a nice drought, until they showed up. > > Now we've had several feet of rain since Saturday when we began our > walking tour of Westconsin. > > Frank always blames PennsylRainia for the wet conditions at Carlisle > every year. > > Methinks it is They who should be blaming him. > > Anyway, we had a very pleasant visit with them both. Didn't talk > about cars too much. > > Frank, I hope the return trip was uneventful. You all are welcome any time. > > Peter C. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Aug 20 15:58:40 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:58:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank'llrainya References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070820161503.0318aab8@mailbag.com> Message-ID: <005301c7e375$46f923c0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Frank and his too lovely wife Diane are in transit back to Joisey > from whence they came late last week. Darn it, I had assumed that the peripatetic Soave had gone to Joisey to see them, not vice versa. I guess my invite is still in the mail. From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Aug 20 16:17:21 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:17:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Frank'llrainya In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070820161503.0318aab8@mailbag.com> Message-ID: <962127.74412.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Peter C wrote: > Frank, I hope the return trip was uneventful. You > all are welcome any time. I talked to them a few minutes ago. They may have to stop for the rain in PA. Raining like a monkey the whole way home. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Aug 20 16:22:18 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Release Bearing In-Reply-To: <003c01c7e34c$1d1fa020$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <907509.75360.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- David Lieb wrote: > this: http://tinyurl.com/28ha4d > Thousands of trouble-free miles for me. It's $20+ cheaper on ebay. The MM description - carbon is a fine bearing surface! Lots of rolling element ball bearings use carbon pellets or balls every-other-ball for lubricity as well. I've had no problems whatsoever with carbon, even in a race application. The pressure plates keep grenading on me with alarming regularity. Ron From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Aug 20 16:44:11 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:44:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Release Bearing References: <907509.75360.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005e01c7e37b$a114b580$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > I've had no problems whatsoever with carbon, even in a > race application. The pressure plates keep grenading > on me with alarming regularity. Ron, All I know for sure is that I HATE to pull an engine JUST to change a release bearing because the carbon cracked off. I never had to do that with the rollers. David Lieb 1972 RWA Midget From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Aug 20 16:51:07 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:51:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Frank'llrainya In-Reply-To: <005301c7e375$46f923c0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <551404.33289.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- David Lieb wrote: > Darn it, I had assumed that the peripatetic Soave > had gone > to Joisey to see them, not vice versa Both! I called Frank to tell him I'd be in town the 14th, Diane picked up and said "SOAVE! We're coming to see you the 14th!." They delayed their departure a day and wandered out from there. I had to look up peripatetic, BTW! Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Aug 20 16:54:08 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:54:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Release Bearing In-Reply-To: <005e01c7e37b$a114b580$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <885077.67198.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- David Lieb wrote: > release bearing because the carbon cracked off. I > never had to do that with > the rollers. I hear ya, but I'm in the midst of bearing hell at work right now with an angular contact ball bearing that is failing under minimal thrust load, so I'm a little biased at the moment. There was a bearing engineer on the list, I forget who - please contact me if you're doing any consulting (seriously). Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ From abcoz at hky.com Mon Aug 20 17:19:04 2007 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:19:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Release Bearing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001701c7e380$80657400$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> To Brad's excellent advice I would ad: Don't even let your foot TOUCH the clutch pedal, until you actually need to disengage the clutch. Just having your foot in contact with the pedal may very well pressurize the clutch hydraulics enough to move the release bearing into sufficient contact with the pressure plate to cause wearing of the carbon ring. Also, I suspect that most are not aware that by touching the carbon ring contact surface, with your hand/fingers, you likely have contaminated the bearing enough to cause premature wear. Clean both the release bearing carbon ring, and the rotating face on the pressure plate with something like Brake-Clean on a lint-free rag before installing. Then, make sure nothing touches either part until you bolt the trans to the engine. Another thing noticed on a new carbon ring release bearing, on an MGB I did a clutch job on, last year, was that the bearings are now......are you ready for this.......made in China. This means that the f_ _ _ ing things don't fit the release fork correctly (too tight), and some filing is necessary to prevent them from keeping one edge in contact with the pressure plate (and causing a squeal.....don't ask me how I know this), when things warm up and make it sit too snugly in the release fork to allow it to pivot. Bud Osbourne Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Fornal Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 12:11 PM To: David Lieb Cc: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Release Bearing The key to longevity on the original design, is DO NOT RIDE THE CLUTCH!!! Shift into neutral at stop lights and signs. When getting ready to take off, shift into second, and THEN into first. This will keep you from messing up your non syncro first gear, by aligning things up. Keep your foot off the clutch unless you are actually shifting. Brad From kevin at valentinephoto.net Mon Aug 20 17:17:41 2007 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:17:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Release Bearing In-Reply-To: <907509.75360.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <907509.75360.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <75BEAC74-438C-40F2-8729-BB11CDE23471@valentinephoto.net> On Aug 20, 2007, at 6:22 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > --- David Lieb wrote: >> this: http://tinyurl.com/28ha4d >> Thousands of trouble-free miles for me. > > It's $20+ cheaper on ebay. Ron, I have been doing some research concerning the roller bearings. I contacted the seller on eBay. He told me his bearing is made in the USA but REFUSED to reveal the name of the manufacturer. Peter C. also has some experience and advice about certain makes of these rollers. I had a failure within 700 miles with the first roller bearing I used (several years ago), so I am a little hesitant to use these again. I have recently had the failure of a carbon bearing in Rob's yellow Spridget, but that bearing has well over 20,000 miles on it, (it was in the car when I got it and we put at least 20k on the car since then). Until I can find a reliable roller, I think I'll stay with the carbon type. Anybody using a roller? If so, do you have a manufacturer's name and model #? How long have you had it in service? Kevin From kevin at valentinephoto.net Mon Aug 20 17:21:18 2007 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:21:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank'llrainya In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070820161503.0318aab8@mailbag.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070820161503.0318aab8@mailbag.com> Message-ID: <69B13307-732D-4480-871D-B7FAFF24B6F5@valentinephoto.net> On Aug 20, 2007, at 5:23 PM, Peter C wrote: > > Frank always blames PennsylRainia for the wet conditions at Carlisle > every year. > > Methinks it is They who should be blaming him. Yep, HE brought rain with him to last year's PA Rally............ From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Mon Aug 20 18:45:38 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:45:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank'llrainya References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070820161503.0318aab8@mailbag.com> <69B13307-732D-4480-871D-B7FAFF24B6F5@valentinephoto.net> Message-ID: <00a401c7e38c$98242260$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> BAD as I HATE to "defend" him Kevin, Frank DID NOT!!! Remember I was a "witness"!!!! LOL From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Aug 20 21:15:54 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 23:15:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Jaguar for sale In-Reply-To: <000601c7df81$47182b50$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <000601c7df81$47182b50$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <46CA58EA.3030607@comcast.net> Glen Byrns wrote: > Surprise, surprise! You turn a Jag into a Ford and people stay away in > droves. Who would have guessed? Well I just returned from a trip to the midwest with my Ford/Jaguar (faguar ;) )and not only does it have more style than anything asian, I got 31.2 MPG @ 75 MPH with the air on. I love my Jag, I hate my Ford. Yeah I know, same damn car but one looks and drives a whole lot better than the other. And no Lucas electricks! -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Aug 20 21:52:50 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 23:52:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 12 volt 2 amp screw base bulb In-Reply-To: <872298.7188.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <872298.7188.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46CA6192.3000501@comcast.net> uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com wrote: > HELP NEEDED ! > > I need a source for a 12Volt 2 amp screw base bulb Paul A has em. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Aug 20 22:12:22 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 00:12:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Release Bearing In-Reply-To: <001701c7e380$80657400$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> References: <001701c7e380$80657400$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <46CA6626.60607@comcast.net> Bud Osbourne wrote: > Another thing noticed on a new carbon ring release bearing, .....are > you ready for this.......made in China. Now we know why they self destruct in a month. BUT the chinks make this stuff to "our specs" so I have heard. Well if it's made in china, it WILL fail if it even works out of the box. The box it comes in will outlive the part but only if you throw out the box in the proper fashion or light it on fire as soon as you remove the defective part. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From franks97 at verizon.net Mon Aug 20 22:20:25 2007 From: franks97 at verizon.net (Franks) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:20:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch, Pressure Plates and Roller Bearing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/20/07 4:19 PM, "spridgets-request at autox.team.net" wrote: > Anybody using a roller? If so, do you have a manufacturer's name and > model #? How long have you had it in service? > > > Kevin I use a roller type in my race Sprite. I bought it from Mini Mania seven years ago and it is still going strong. I am in he process of replacing the clutch as it went away during the Sunday race at the Portland Historics. Paul A. is sourcing me one with a Kevlar material. Several of my fellow Spridget racers have had problems with pressure plate failures. I am considering using the one that I took out. It is about four years old and seems to be in good condition. Any thoughts on that? -- David Franks franks97 at verizon.net 67 AH Sprite #82 Blue From froggi60 at gmail.com Mon Aug 20 22:28:23 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:28:23 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Don't let her go! In-Reply-To: <380-220078120205737187@earthlink.net> References: <380-220078120205737187@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10708202128u581d6d41i895c47141c846011@mail.gmail.com> Besides, we need you gals to keep us in line! You know how guys are when they get together without any women around. Heck, just the language alone.... From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Mon Aug 20 23:18:46 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 22:18:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Blown Airport Racer Sprite Message-ID: <302572.7701.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Blown Airport Racer Sprite I happen to see this car on spritespot. The guy has done a very nice job on this car. He was at the last South West Unique Little Car Show with his supercharged Sprite. He took first place in his class. The car looks much better in person then the pictures. I just thought i would share this with the group. I remember a few of these at the airport races and at the canery races in the Starkist parking lot here in California. I know never to ask for comments with this crowd. Just to expect them.........LOL Yes, Capt'n he runs racing gas with the Judson and it runs very very well.........Vigil Second page at: http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/59-Austin-Healey-Sprite 1959 Austin Healey Sprite 1959 Austin Healey Sprite, My version of an 'Airport Racer'. Attached are some pictures of the restoration. When we picked up the car, it was a basket case, barely ran, wouldn't stop. This is the result of twenty-five months of hard work, and one understanding wife. A two year journey to not only restore a car, but to keep alive part of California's racing history. The car is basically stock with the addition of some period performance parts. Some of the features are a Judson Supercharged 948cc engine, Abarth exhaust, leather interior and Lucas dual horns. I hope you enjoy looking at the photos, Leave comments, I'd like to see what you think. Added a Sub-album for the "Bugeye Couch" Take a look! Added some photos from the Hemmings Photo Shoot and Healey Week 2007 May 22, 2007 --------------------------------- Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Aug 21 00:58:58 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 01:58:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Jaguar for sale In-Reply-To: <46CA58EA.3030607@comcast.net> References: <000601c7df81$47182b50$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <46CA58EA.3030607@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0708202358y7a0b213dj7a27c8f16d5f7848@mail.gmail.com> Efing heretic!! Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City On 8/20/07, Frank Clarici wrote: > Glen Byrns wrote: > > Surprise, surprise! You turn a Jag into a Ford and people stay away in > > droves. Who would have guessed? > > Well I just returned from a trip to the midwest with my Ford/Jaguar > (faguar ;) )and not only does it have more style than anything asian, I > got 31.2 MPG @ 75 MPH with the air on. > I love my Jag, I hate my Ford. Yeah I know, same damn car but one looks > and drives a whole lot better than the other. And no Lucas electricks! From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Aug 21 08:17:06 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:17:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Bugeye?? Message-ID: Hi all, especially those in Wisconsin.. I have a SAAB buddy who is interested in a Bugeye on eBay, item 190141774680. To me it looks like all bondo but I don't really know. Anyone with any info on this car?? Thanks, Lester From dwoerpel at wi.net Tue Aug 21 09:02:45 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 10:02:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Bugeye?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46CAFE95.1080508@wi.net> Sorry about some of you receiving this multiple times. The car is located in SW Wisconsin and if someone is brave enough to go look at it they should do so soon. Unless the barn is on a hill it may be a flood sale by the time the auction ends. I am not trying to scare anyone but you should know what you would be driving into. A friend of mine not 30 miles away has 5 feet of water in his basement; so far 8" of rain. Folks from Texas can relate (was Frank there too???). If it weren't 4 hours away I would be happy to check it out as it looks to be "all there" and is a great car for total restoration......an A.W.S.H.I.T. ("All Wisconsin" chapter) project? Good Luck oldsaabguy! I'll do some checking and see what I can come up with; Peter, road trip? Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS Burlington WI oldsaabguy wrote: > Hi all, especially those in Wisconsin.. I have a SAAB buddy who is > interested in a Bugeye on eBay, item 190141774680. To me it looks > like all bondo but I don't really know. Anyone with any info on > this car?? > > Thanks, > > Lester From John.Deikis at va.gov Tue Aug 21 10:35:11 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 12:35:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank'llrainya In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070820161503.0318aab8@mailbag.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070820161503.0318aab8@mailbag.com> Message-ID: I could have used both of you guys this past weekend at Grattan. It was the weekend form hell! The only thing that didn't stop working was the water pump. In three days, I never went out on the track once that I didn't pull into the pits the first time around with a miss, or a sputter, or a cylinder not firing. That's what you get when you have a pretty good 10-year streak (minus some years that included a couple of holed pistons, a spun bearing, a rollover and a tee-bone nudge during a real estate dispute). I'm ready to trade up to a Trabant. JohnD -----Original Message----- From: Peter C [mailto:peter at nosimport.com] Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 5:24 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Frank'llrainya Frank and his too lovely wife Diane are in transit back to Joisey from whence they came late last week. We WERE in the midst of a nice drought, until they showed up. Now we've had several feet of rain since Saturday when we began our walking tour of Westconsin. Frank always blames PennsylRainia for the wet conditions at Carlisle every year. Methinks it is They who should be blaming him. Anyway, we had a very pleasant visit with them both. Didn't talk about cars too much. Frank, I hope the return trip was uneventful. You all are welcome any time. Peter C. From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Aug 21 13:43:18 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 13:43:18 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch, Pressure Plates and Roller Bearing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910708211243m411e4127hf1952f1d0933048c@mail.gmail.com> If it ain't broke......... Normally I would say replace it with new but it seems like the new ones are made from that Chinese steel that doesn't last ten minutes. Given that choice I would use the old one. Cheers, Derf From wmgilroy at gmail.com Tue Aug 21 14:32:09 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 13:32:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC: Add a sunroof to any car Message-ID: <441250190708211332h11a49aeew1f3c848cc1e704b5@mail.gmail.com> If my wife's car did not already have a sunroff I would be all over this product. I think the Parts Pimp has missed a great chance to make some extra cash. http://www.autoblog.com/2007/08/21/decano-self-adhesive-sunroof-doesnt-let-the-sun-shine-in/ -g From peter at nosimport.com Tue Aug 21 14:45:05 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:45:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC: Add a sunroof to any car In-Reply-To: <441250190708211332h11a49aeew1f3c848cc1e704b5@mail.gmail.co m> References: <441250190708211332h11a49aeew1f3c848cc1e704b5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070821154117.036348f0@nosimport.com> At 03:32 PM 8/21/2007, Bill Gilroy wrote: >If my wife's car did not already have a sunroff I would be all over this >product. I think the Parts Pimp has missed a great chance to make some >extra cash. >http://www.autoblog.com/2007/08/21/decano-self-adhesive-sunroof-doesnt-let-the-sun-shine-in/ > >-g >_______________________________________________ Ya know, when we used to sell lots of retail, we sold cell phones like this for $11.99. And the "antennae" for another $4.99 2 people reported having had their windows broken and the "phone" stolen. Honest. PPP From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Aug 21 19:20:28 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 20:20:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Two wire hose clamps Message-ID: If anyone has any of the original two wire hose clamps that they are not using, I'd like to beg, borrow or buy them from you. I may end up changing back, but I would like to initially set the engine bay up with the originals. I only have 4 small ones, and I am using them on the smog system. I'm not sure how many of each I will need. Frank......??? -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From pilotrob at msn.com Tue Aug 21 21:00:23 2007 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 03:00:23 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Blown Airport Racer Sprite Message-ID: Yessiree, Vigil... 100+RON is what a Judsonized motor was meant to burn "back in the days" in consideration of the maximum in cylinder filling (dynamic compression ratio) bought about by supercharging, in accordance with the literature which originally accompanied the blower. And this is especially the case with "vane-type" blowers considering their penchant for "compression heating" of inducted air. Europe comes pretty close with their unleaded 98RON though I do not know whether this is available continent-wide. Mine ran fine on my stock 8.8-1 1275 on CAM2 "purple" but this got expensive at US$6.00 a US gallon. Even more expensive today. I remember seeing this car in previous pictures, Vigil. Nice machine! :) CapBob From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Aug 19 07:12:04 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 08:12:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil leak from dip stick? References: <46C7C86B.7020907@smarc.net> Message-ID: <000c01c7e262$8a23c1a0$0201a8c0@midget> Marc, Oil from the dipstick always seems to mean that the engine is generating more crankcase pressure than it can get rid of. Either there is excessive blowby past the tired old rings, or else the venting is inadequate. As Bill Gilroy indicated, check out the internal health of the engine, especially rings and valve guides, by doing a compression test and maybe a leakdown test, too. A 1973 1275 originally had two forms of smogging; the air pump and the charcoal cannister. The air pump is no big loss unless you have a strange desire to create a concours RWA Midget. The pump itself was worn out in the first 10,000 miles or so of use and represented nothing but a power drain from day 1 anyway. Just make sure the holes in the side of the head are properly plugged. The charcoal cannister system, however, was a useful thing. It was a passive system that robbed no power from the engine at all. It is also a little more difficult to remove properly. The objective of this system was to eliminate most of the gasoline vapors from the car. Therefore, the vents from the carb float bowls, the valve cover, the timing chain cover, and the gas tank were all connected to the charcoal cannister, which served as a filter. Since the system has already been removed, your options are rather limited, so lets take a look at what needs to be accomplished. 1. Gas tank As your engine burns gasoline, the level in the tank goes down (darn it!) and the volume needs to be replaced by air, otherwise you get the not-uncommon scenario of driving a mile or two and "running out of gas" because of the vacuum in the tank. You can vent it fairly easily by drilling a couple of 1/8" holes in the metal disk inside the gas cap. If your state still does emissions testing of 1973 Midgets, have a spare cap for the test. While you are back at this end of the car, take a look at the smaller hose in the boot which goes into the top of the tank next to the filler hose. This connects to the vapor separator mounted in the side of the boot, which, in turn, connects to the charcoal cannister. I can almost guarantee that the rubber hose inside that metal braid has long since perished. I would recommend plugging it at the tank (venting your tank inside the boot is not really recommended, even in a convertible). If necessary, you can cut the crimp on the hose connection and disassemble it. If the rest of the venting system has been disabled, it is no longer doing anything. If the hose has perished badly enough, this can cause the gas station pump NOT to cut off when the tank is full. 2. Carburetor vents Assuming you still have the original HS2 carbs, the top connection on each of the flot bowl lids is a vent. The factory plumbed these to the cannister via a metal pipe. If the pipe is still there, leave it in place and route it so that any gasoline that comes shooting out of them if your needle valve sticks does NOT go onto the exhaust. 3. Engine vents The factory used the Y-pipe connected between the two carbs to put a small vacuum on the crankcase via the timing-chain cover. They then ran a hose from the top of the valve cover to the charcoal cannister. The pipe on the valve cover originally had a small orifice on it so that there would be a little vacuum in the crankcase to minimize oil loss. There is no telling what is left of your system now. Many people saw off the end of this pipe to eliminate the orifice and vent it to atmosphere by running a hose down to the slipstream under the car (sounds like your DPO did this). They also plug the Y-pipe on the carbs and vent the timing-chain cover via a hose over the top of the engine and down into the slipstream by the other one. This will work ok. In some cases, it could be worthwhile to remove the blanking plate on the side of the engine where a merchanical fuel pump would mount and install a hose fitting to it and add a third hose over the engine into the slipstream. Another option, if the orifice on the valve cover is still intact, is to use the intake manifold connection from the air pump to run a hose to a "normal" in-line PCV valve from your local autoparts store and thence to the timing-chain cover. Install a fuel filter in the hose from the valve cover down to clean the small amount of air that should be coming through there and you should have a reasonable amount of vacuum in your crankcase. As Bill implied, however, if your rings are not sealing very well, you don't have a whole lot of hope of controlling the crankcase pressure. David Lieb From tnhotairpilot at comcast.net Tue Aug 21 21:20:51 2007 From: tnhotairpilot at comcast.net (Hank Beck) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 23:20:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Two wire hose clamps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070822032219.6601D18763F@autox.team.net> Brad, I think I have a few from a 76 Midget that I could let you have. Give me the address & I;ll send them too you. Hank Beck At 09:20 PM 8/21/2007, you wrote: >If anyone has any of the original two wire hose clamps that they are >not using, I'd like to beg, borrow or buy them from you. >I may end up changing back, but I would like to initially set the >engine bay up with the originals. I only have 4 small ones, and I am >using them on the smog system. I'm not sure how many of each I will >need. >Frank......??? > >-- >www.myspace.com/tequilabrad >_______________________________________________ >tnhotairpilot at comcast.net > >Edit your replies > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Aug 22 07:04:44 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:04:44 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] sputtering Message-ID: Both me and the car! Miss Marple has been running poorly and being neglected. She sounds like an old VW bug. I'm up to about 150 miles for the year. She sputters along. But, it's not quite that simple. I did a poor man's tune up ( and got a wake up shock from a plug wire in the process ), and she ran well for one drive. ( I cleaned things up. Filed points, gapped plugs, checked for spark, etc ) So, next time I got some time, I changed the points, and she ran fine ... for one drive. Next time I got a few minutes, I changed the condenser, and she ran fine ... for one drive. Actually, this time, she started off sputtering, but as the car warmed up she suddenly went back to normal. This lasted the duration of the drive. Yesterday, I drove her in to work, sputtering along here and back. Today, due to a kitchen accident which sent me back to the shower, I was a bit too late to bike in and the family car is shy of gas, so I was thinking I could maybe try to figure out what's wrong with her at lunch time. Sputtering along to work, when halfway here, with the coolant guage reading 170 at the head and just above N in the rad. Poof! A cloud of smog behind me and she's running like a top again. Does anyone have any clues for me? I'm starting to think that she just wants the attention. Robert the clueless PS: I also swapped in the dist cap and wires from a 1098 which was running just fine when I tore down my Sprite. It made no difference. From doug_altman at yahoo.com Wed Aug 22 07:39:28 2007 From: doug_altman at yahoo.com (Doug Altman) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 06:39:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Wire Hose Clamps Message-ID: <259314.56427.qm@web63509.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Brad - I have a few extras also. All in good shape except for the 1" ers. If you need them, let me know, I will send them out. 1 - 2 3/4", 4 - 1 3/4", 1 - 1 1/4", 2 - 1", 3 - 3/4" Doug Altman --------------------------------- Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. From peter at nosimport.com Wed Aug 22 08:00:16 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:00:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wire Hose Clamps In-Reply-To: <259314.56427.qm@web63509.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <259314.56427.qm@web63509.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070822085144.035bb578@nosimport.com> At 08:39 AM 8/22/2007, Doug Altman wrote: >Brad - I have a few extras also. All in good shape except for the >1" ers. If you need them, let me know, I will send them out. > 1 - 2 3/4", 4 - 1 3/4", 1 - 1 1/4", 2 - 1", 3 - 3/4" > Doug Altman ========================= F Y'alls' I Moss lists the clamps. Now, the fine print..... THEY DON'T LIST A 1" SIZE!!!! Which, curiously enough is the size you need for a Sprite... or Mini, for that manner. I discovered that if you use the size they DO sell, antifreeze will spray all over your engine and windshield, etc. Also, in the large bag of clamps I recently purchased from them, roughly half have a hex headed screw rather than a nice slotted one. No worries, run down to the local Ace and get some screws. NOTE: they are 5mm metric screws. ahem. all-righty-then Peter C. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Aug 22 09:14:09 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:14:09 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] DNA ( next to no LBC content ) Message-ID: I heard on the news this AM that a couple hundred people in the states had their DNA tested to determine what they were at risk for in their lives. The form that they showed indicated that that person had a risk of high cholesterol, diabetes, high blood pressure and a few other things less closely related than that. I wonder if the risk of spridget ownership can be determined that way? :) From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Aug 22 10:24:38 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:24:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] sputtering In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46CC6346.70705@comcast.net> Stuck carb piston or stuck float so no fuel is getting to 1 carb. Change the plugs and wires too. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From Daniel1312 at aol.com Wed Aug 22 13:02:14 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:02:14 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget update & ring a ding ding Message-ID: Hi List, I'm off work for a week after tomorrow so I can handle spridget e-mails so I'm back on list for a while. Not much is new here though I do collect my new engine on Thursday but not the cylinder head. Last Saturday I was at a very good race meeting (I'm a tech official) and saw my first ever 2-stroke SAAB racing. It went quite well other than laying down a fairly heavy smoke screen at the start of the race. There were a couple of Ford Anglia, a 3.0 Capri, an A30/A25 a couple of Morris Minors (both ran last) and other stuff that escape me at present. There are some decent video clips of previous races (Brands Hatch in the wet) if anyone has time for an idle download at www.classictouringcarclub.co.uk I think. Regards Daniel1312 From danwigi at yahoo.com Wed Aug 22 14:39:41 2007 From: danwigi at yahoo.com (Danny Wigington) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:39:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Leaf Springs Again Message-ID: <288440.57950.qm@web56814.mail.re3.yahoo.com> I posted a question to this list about where to find some good used leaf springs for a '71 Midget and received no response. I remembered that I signed up for digest mode so I switched out of it as that may have affected anyone's ability to respond to my inquiry. So again, if you have any leaf springs that you want to get rid of, please let me know. I live in Santa Cruz, CA. or if you know of any wrecking yards in the Bay Area that would have LBC parts I would appreciate the lead. Thanks again, Dan. --------------------------------- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. From rkburkesr at hotmail.com Wed Aug 22 15:41:03 2007 From: rkburkesr at hotmail.com (Robah Burke) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:41:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Blown Airport Racer Sprite In-Reply-To: Message-ID: My husband RK Burke enjoyed being a part of the Spridget Mailing List. He passed away last Monday at Duke Hospital, so please remove him from your contact list. When I am ready to "relocate" his "little British cars," I will email one of you and ask you to add this information to the Spridget Mailing List. Thank you! Deb Burke >From: "Robert E. Shlafer" >To: bugeye at yahoogroups.com, spridgets >,Midget/Sprite >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Blown Airport Racer Sprite >Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 03:00:23 GMT > >Yessiree, Vigil... > >100+RON is what a Judsonized motor was >meant to burn "back in the days" in consideration of the maximum in >cylinder filling (dynamic compression ratio) bought about by >supercharging, in accordance with the literature which originally >accompanied the blower. > >And this is especially the case with "vane-type" blowers considering their >penchant >for "compression heating" of inducted air. > >Europe comes pretty close with their >unleaded 98RON though I do not know >whether this is available continent-wide. > >Mine ran fine on my stock 8.8-1 1275 on >CAM2 "purple" but this got expensive at >US$6.00 a US gallon. Even more expensive >today. > >I remember seeing this car in previous >pictures, Vigil. Nice machine! :) > >CapBob >_______________________________________________ >rkburkesr at hotmail.com > >Edit your replies > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Booking a flight? Know when to buy with airfare predictions on MSN Travel. http://travel.msn.com/Articles/aboutfarecast.aspx&ocid=T001MSN25A07001 From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Aug 22 19:04:26 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:04:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Perfect for Just Ed-Camino Message-ID: <620503.94776.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> http://cars-on-line.com/31997.html Ron Soave "Take it, Dee Dee" - http://youtube.com/watch?v=9BYOulnVXAE From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Wed Aug 22 20:27:56 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 21:27:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Perfect for Just Ed-Camino References: <620503.94776.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <02e101c7e52d$38732df0$6501a8c0@actualshop> Actually Ron, normally I would consider!!! But I need 'nother gas-gussler like a hole in the head!!! "Amber" is a 500+HP 350cid!!! Got 16mpg on thew road to see you at Blackhawk!! UGH!! Anon From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Aug 22 20:35:14 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 21:35:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Perfect for Just Ed-Camino References: <620503.94776.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <04db01c7e52e$3c8ba6f0$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:04 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Perfect for Just Ed-Camino http://cars-on-line.com/31997.html Ron Soave "Take it, Dee Dee" - http://youtube.com/watch?v=9BYOulnVXAE _______________________________________________ That thing looks like it would be perfect for a pimp who lives in the middle of Iowa. Ed From wmgilroy at gmail.com Wed Aug 22 20:59:50 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:59:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Perfect for Just Ed-Camino In-Reply-To: <04db01c7e52e$3c8ba6f0$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <620503.94776.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <04db01c7e52e$3c8ba6f0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <441250190708221959y5de082dfi848838755626a544@mail.gmail.com> What is in a pimp's from Iowa stable? Barnyard animals? Or would that be WI? Montana Box On 8/22/07, Larry Daniels wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Soave" > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:04 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Perfect for Just Ed-Camino > > > http://cars-on-line.com/31997.html > > > Ron Soave > > "Take it, Dee Dee" - http://youtube.com/watch?v=9BYOulnVXAE > _______________________________________________ > > That thing looks like it would be perfect for a pimp who lives in the > middle > of Iowa. > > Ed > _______________________________________________ > wmgilroy at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Wed Aug 22 21:03:02 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 22:03:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Perfect for Just Ed-Camino References: <620503.94776.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com><04db01c7e52e$3c8ba6f0$6401a8c0@Larry> <441250190708221959y5de082dfi848838755626a544@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <038801c7e532$1fd13bc0$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> Answered yer own question, Montana!!!! From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Aug 22 21:07:21 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 22:07:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Perfect for Just Ed-Camino References: <620503.94776.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <04db01c7e52e$3c8ba6f0$6401a8c0@Larry> <441250190708221959y5de082dfi848838755626a544@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <04f201c7e532$b92e6720$6401a8c0@Larry> Whoa, whoa, whoa, Bill. First of all, I'm from WI. OK, originally IL, but here longer. Now, to answer your question, I would suppose that a pimp from Iowa's stable would consist of pigs. You can take that anyway you wish. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Gilroy To: Larry Daniels Cc: Ron Soave ; Spridgets Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Perfect for Just Ed-Camino What is in a pimp's from Iowa stable? Barnyard animals? Or would that be WI? Montana Box On 8/22/07, Larry Daniels wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:04 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Perfect for Just Ed-Camino http://cars-on-line.com/31997.html Ron Soave "Take it, Dee Dee" - http://youtube.com/watch?v=9BYOulnVXAE _______________________________________________ That thing looks like it would be perfect for a pimp who lives in the middle of Iowa. Ed From herby at herbytoys.com Wed Aug 22 21:19:44 2007 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:19:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tranny swap issues Message-ID: <000601c7e534$753de840$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> Okay so I get the 1275 and smoothcase out of the car. I pull off the tranny. I look at the pressure plate and yep its a 6-1/2 inch, so far so good. (oh yeah, this is DPO stuff I havent been into yet). I pop the P.P. off and then the flywheel. I check the pilot bushing, it just about falls out. It looks odd so I compare with the new one. Old DPO one is > OD and the new one is 5/8 OD!! Whats wrong here? IDs on both are the same. The crank ID measures ~ .760. Any ideas? Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com From herby at herbytoys.com Wed Aug 22 21:30:40 2007 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:30:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Leaf Springs Again In-Reply-To: <288440.57950.qm@web56814.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000b01c7e535$fc8e4c80$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> Welcome to the list Dan. Nice to "see" another Bay Area Spridgeteer! Sorry don't have any 1/2 leaf springs and don't know any wrecking yards down your way but Midgets pop into Pick-A-Part yards occasionally. I haven't been my local one in awhile (maybe it's time for an adventure!).You might contact John Carey (he's not on the list) jbcarey-at-sbcglobal-dot-net as he's in the South Bay. If you can wait until the Palo Alto British show I'm sure there will be someone there who has some or knows someone who does. Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com I posted a question to this list about where to find some good used leaf springs for a '71 Midget and received no response. I remembered that I signed up for digest mode so I switched out of it as that may have affected anyone's ability to respond to my inquiry. So again, if you have any leaf springs that you want to get rid of, please let me know. I live in Santa Cruz, CA. or if you know of any wrecking yards in the Bay Area that would have LBC parts I would appreciate the lead. Thanks again, Dan. From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Wed Aug 22 21:35:40 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:35:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tranny swap issues References: <000601c7e534$753de840$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> Message-ID: <00a701c7e536$aece5160$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Can't make out the old OD of the pilot bush. Write it out, please. It's square? Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herby" To: "'Spridget List'" Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:19 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Tranny swap issues > Okay so I get the 1275 and smoothcase out of the car. I pull off the tranny. > I look at the pressure plate and yep its a 6-1/2 inch, so far so good. (oh > yeah, this is DPO stuff I havent been into yet). I pop the P.P. off and > then the flywheel. I check the pilot bushing, it just about falls out. It > looks odd so I compare with the new one. Old DPO one is > OD and the new > one is 5/8 OD!! Whats wrong here? IDs on both are the same. The crank ID > measures ~ .760. Any ideas? > > > > Herby > 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) > 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) > 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) > herby at herbytoys.com From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Wed Aug 22 21:38:15 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:38:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Leaf Springs Again References: <000b01c7e535$fc8e4c80$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> Message-ID: <00ad01c7e537$0b6b6ca0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Hi Dan, If your springs are just weak and sagging, but not broken, why not have a spring place refurbish them? Trading old for old sometimes doesn't get you very far!! Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herby" To: "'Danny Wigington'" ; Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Leaf Springs Again > Welcome to the list Dan. Nice to "see" another Bay Area Spridgeteer! Sorry > don't have any 1/2 leaf springs and don't know any wrecking yards down your > way but Midgets pop into Pick-A-Part yards occasionally. I haven't been my > local one in awhile (maybe it's time for an adventure!).You might contact > John Carey (he's not on the list) jbcarey-at-sbcglobal-dot-net as he's in > the South Bay. > > If you can wait until the Palo Alto British show I'm sure there will be > someone there who has some or knows someone who does. > > Herby > 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) > 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) > 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) > herby at herbytoys.com > www.herbytoys.com > > I posted a question to this list about where to find some good used leaf > springs for a '71 Midget and received no response. I remembered that I > signed up for digest mode so I switched out of it as that may have affected > anyone's ability to respond to my inquiry. So again, if you have any leaf > springs that you want to get rid of, please let me know. I live in Santa > Cruz, CA. or if you know of any wrecking yards in the Bay Area that would > have LBC parts I would appreciate the lead. > Thanks again, Dan. From herby at herbytoys.com Wed Aug 22 21:52:55 2007 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:52:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tranny swap issues In-Reply-To: <00a701c7e536$aece5160$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <000c01c7e539$1981c4e0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> Sorry, I've never had that happen before. How about I try decimals? The OD old DPO is .750 and the new one is .625. Both ID at .500. The crank ID measures about .760. Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com -----Original Message----- From: Paul Asgeirsson [mailto:PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:36 PM To: herby at herbytoys.com; 'Spridget List' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tranny swap issues Can't make out the old OD of the pilot bush. Write it out, please. It's square? Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herby" To: "'Spridget List'" Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:19 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Tranny swap issues > Okay so I get the 1275 and smoothcase out of the car. I pull off the tranny. > I look at the pressure plate and yep its a 6-1/2 inch, so far so good. (oh > yeah, this is DPO stuff I havent been into yet). I pop the P.P. off and > then the flywheel. I check the pilot bushing, it just about falls out. It > looks odd so I compare with the new one. Old DPO one is > OD and the new > one is 5/8 OD!! Whats wrong here? IDs on both are the same. The crank ID > measures ~ .760. Any ideas? > > > > Herby > 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) > 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) > 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) > herby at herbytoys.com From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Wed Aug 22 22:20:44 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 21:20:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tranny swap issues References: <000c01c7e539$1981c4e0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> Message-ID: <00bc01c7e53c$facd3760$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Hi Herby, I'm assuming that you are measuring deep in the end of the crankshaft to get that .750. I've never seen one, only heard about them, but seems to me that an easy fix is to get a .750 OD X .500 ID oilite bushing and saw off what you need. They all come in too long!! Shorten is easy! With my 5 speed adapter, the bushing fits in the very end of the crankshaft and just about all 1275 cranks are .882 there. I'd just get a larger OD bushing, if it were my car. Later, Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herby" To: "'Paul Asgeirsson'" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:52 PM Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Tranny swap issues Sorry, I've never had that happen before. How about I try decimals? The OD old DPO is .750 and the new one is .625. Both ID at .500. The crank ID measures about .760. Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com -----Original Message----- From: Paul Asgeirsson [mailto:PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:36 PM To: herby at herbytoys.com; 'Spridget List' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tranny swap issues Can't make out the old OD of the pilot bush. Write it out, please. It's square? Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herby" To: "'Spridget List'" Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:19 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Tranny swap issues > Okay so I get the 1275 and smoothcase out of the car. I pull off the tranny. > I look at the pressure plate and yep its a 6-1/2 inch, so far so good. (oh > yeah, this is DPO stuff I havent been into yet). I pop the P.P. off and > then the flywheel. I check the pilot bushing, it just about falls out. It > looks odd so I compare with the new one. Old DPO one is > OD and the new > one is 5/8 OD!! Whats wrong here? IDs on both are the same. The crank ID > measures ~ .760. Any ideas? > > > > Herby > 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) > 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) > 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) > herby at herbytoys.com From herby at herbytoys.com Wed Aug 22 22:27:19 2007 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 21:27:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tranny swap issues In-Reply-To: <00bc01c7e53c$facd3760$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <000d01c7e53d$e4d29440$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> Thanks Paul. Yes I'm measuring deep inside the crank. I have a set of different size oilites somewhere in my garage. I'll have to dig them out. Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com -----Original Message----- From: Paul Asgeirsson [mailto:PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 9:21 PM To: herby at herbytoys.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tranny swap issues Hi Herby, I'm assuming that you are measuring deep in the end of the crankshaft to get that .750. I've never seen one, only heard about them, but seems to me that an easy fix is to get a .750 OD X .500 ID oilite bushing and saw off what you need. They all come in too long!! Shorten is easy! With my 5 speed adapter, the bushing fits in the very end of the crankshaft and just about all 1275 cranks are .882 there. I'd just get a larger OD bushing, if it were my car. Later, Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herby" To: "'Paul Asgeirsson'" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:52 PM Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Tranny swap issues Sorry, I've never had that happen before. How about I try decimals? The OD old DPO is .750 and the new one is .625. Both ID at .500. The crank ID measures about .760. Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com -----Original Message----- From: Paul Asgeirsson [mailto:PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:36 PM To: herby at herbytoys.com; 'Spridget List' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tranny swap issues Can't make out the old OD of the pilot bush. Write it out, please. It's square? Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herby" To: "'Spridget List'" Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:19 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Tranny swap issues > Okay so I get the 1275 and smoothcase out of the car. I pull off the tranny. > I look at the pressure plate and yep its a 6-1/2 inch, so far so good. (oh > yeah, this is DPO stuff I havent been into yet). I pop the P.P. off and > then the flywheel. I check the pilot bushing, it just about falls out. It > looks odd so I compare with the new one. Old DPO one is > OD and the new > one is 5/8 OD!! Whats wrong here? IDs on both are the same. The crank ID > measures ~ .760. Any ideas? > > > > Herby > 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) > 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) > 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) > herby at herbytoys.com From dwoerpel at wi.net Wed Aug 22 23:55:36 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 00:55:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Perfect for Just Ed-Camino In-Reply-To: <04f201c7e532$b92e6720$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <620503.94776.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <04db01c7e52e$3c8ba6f0$6401a8c0@Larry> <441250190708221959y5de082dfi848838755626a544@mail.gmail.com> <04f201c7e532$b92e6720$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <46CD2158.2060200@wi.net> Right on, Homes! I have seen that car and it's actually very well kept. It needs to be slammed or made as an active lo-rider with 26" spinners or maybe the Pimpstar LED wheels from DUB. THEN, take it to Iowa! Dave Burlington WI Larry Daniels wrote: > Whoa, whoa, whoa, Bill. > > First of all, I'm from WI. OK, originally IL, but here longer. > > Now, to answer your question, I would suppose that a pimp from Iowa's stable > would consist of pigs. You can take that anyway you wish. > > > LAD From pilotrob at msn.com Thu Aug 23 04:39:11 2007 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:39:11 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Supercharger advi9ce Message-ID: Jon Peck in (I think) Ireland comes to mind as about the only Shorrocks source I could find years ago when I was into low pressure supercharging. British Classic & Sports Cars (BCSC) I think was the name of the firm. Had a UK website. CapBob -----Original Message----- From: Robert Bruce Evans Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 1:42 PM To: Spridgets at autox.team.net, midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com, bugeye at yahoogroups.com Subject: [midgetsprite] Supercharger advi9ce A friend in England is planning to rebuild a Shorrock 75 supercharger for his Spridget. He would like any pointers on parts suppliers in the U.S.? Can anyone here help? Buster Practical Classics Salutes 23 Spridget Miracle Workers in October [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Aug 23 06:04:03 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 05:04:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Perfect for Just Ed-Camino In-Reply-To: <46CD2158.2060200@wi.net> Message-ID: <99545.37081.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- David Woerpel wrote: > I have seen that car I hope you were wearing protection. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ From doug_altman at yahoo.com Thu Aug 23 06:10:31 2007 From: doug_altman at yahoo.com (Doug Altman) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 05:10:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Wire Hose Clamps Message-ID: <518786.8429.qm@web63504.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Clarke Spares has a nice collection of clamps as does Anglo Parts. Doug ....o~'o --------------------------------- Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Aug 23 06:28:05 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 07:28:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tranny swap issues References: <000601c7e534$753de840$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> Message-ID: <017f01c7e581$0ea3b4a0$0201a8c0@midget> Herby, Yes, there are two standards for the OD of 1275 pilot bushes (same ID). Bill Perry supplies both bushes with his 5-speed kit because there is no way to know which you have until you pull the tranny. 5/8" is the more common, but 3/4" is what my car has. I think the extra room was to allow for a needle-bearing pilot, but I have not seen one of those. David Lieb From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU Thu Aug 23 06:37:02 2007 From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 08:37:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Removal of rear axle Message-ID: Hi, Earlier this week I wrote asking about a rear wheel wobble on my '79 spridget. Turns out it was not the rim, but while on the way to get inspected the wheel threw one of the screws that holds the hub on(?). My wife while following behind saw and later gleefully identified the projectile. The short of it is that the seal broke and gear oil trashed the brakes so I could not get it inspected after all. Bummer. The long of it is I have to seal it back up - the mechanic says I should minimally replace the gasket and o-ring. He suggested that while I was in there that it wouldn't hurt to check out the bearings and replace them. Anything else I should look for ? I have looked at the instructions and have a couple questions: Is this thing really held in by those three little screws (now two in my case!) and once those screws are removed should the axle shaft simply pull out - probably with a bit of persuasion? What am I missing here if anything? There is a whole paragraph devoted to removal in the guide - not much more. If persuasion is required how best to do that - keeping in mind the farm boy in me says get a bigger hammer! Thanks, -m From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Aug 23 06:55:55 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:55:55 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Canadian RHD vehicles in the news Message-ID: Oh-oh! Another excuse to raise insurance rates. ( I think there was someone on the list who wanted to be notified if a link opened a file? This one does. It's a news video from Canadian Broadcasting Corp.) http://www.cbc.ca/mrl3/8752/news/features/shanks-righthanddrive-070822.wmv From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Aug 23 07:12:30 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 08:12:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Canadian RHD vehicles in the news References: Message-ID: <055f01c7e587$43d7cbb0$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 7:55 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Canadian RHD vehicles in the news Oh-oh! Another excuse to raise insurance rates. ( I think there was someone on the list who wanted to be notified if a link opened a file? This one does. It's a news video from Canadian Broadcasting Corp.) http://www.cbc.ca/mrl3/8752/news/features/shanks-righthanddrive-070822.wmv _______________________________________________ Hey, Bob, tell those Canucks that, if you aren't driving on the right side, then you must be driving on the wrong side! Larry Daniels w/ a RHD Austin Ute From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Aug 23 07:23:03 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:23:03 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Canadian RHD vehicles in the news In-Reply-To: <055f01c7e587$43d7cbb0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: LArry, People are constantly pulling up beside me on the road and telling me that the steering wheel is on the wrong side, and I'm forever telling them that it's on the 'right' side. A second later, the lights of recognition come on and they smile. RD '67 RHD MG Midget '65 RHD AH Sprite ( in pieces for years now ) >From: "Larry Daniels" >To: "Robert Duquette" >, >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Canadian RHD vehicles in the news >Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 08:12:30 -0500 > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Robert Duquette" >To: >Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 7:55 AM >Subject: [Spridgets] Canadian RHD vehicles in the news > > >Oh-oh! Another excuse to raise insurance rates. > >( I think there was someone on the list who wanted to be notified if a link >opened a file? This one does. It's a news video from Canadian >Broadcasting >Corp.) > >http://www.cbc.ca/mrl3/8752/news/features/shanks-righthanddrive-070822.wmv >_______________________________________________ > >Hey, Bob, tell those Canucks that, if you aren't driving on the right side, >then you must be driving on the wrong side! > >Larry Daniels >w/ a RHD Austin Ute From peter at nosimport.com Thu Aug 23 07:40:13 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 08:40:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Removal of rear axle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070823083207.0349c9f8@nosimport.com> Mark, Briefly.... the axle IS held on by that screw...and the 4 wheel studs and nuts. Not to worry. But the axle does just pull out, and that's OK. Removal of the bearing, if you're so inclined, can be accomplished by buying/renting a wheel puller and fabricating a way to use it...... OR. installing the brake drum on inside out and smacking it smartly with a large hammer, preferably rubber, whilst rotating it. Once you've gotten the retaining nut off and the tab washer. (and the left side is LH threads) Peter C == At 07:37 AM 8/23/2007, Mark A. O'Neil wrote: >Hi, > >Earlier this week I wrote asking about a rear wheel wobble on my '79 >spridget. Turns out it was not the rim, WHAT WAS IT? >SNIP >The long of it is I have to seal it back up - the mechanic says I >should minimally replace the gasket and o-ring. He suggested that >while I was in there that it wouldn't hurt to check out the bearings >and replace them. Anything else I should look for ? > >I have looked at the instructions and have a couple questions: > >Is this thing really held in by those three little screws (now two in >my case!) and once those screws are removed should the axle shaft >simply pull out - probably with a bit of persuasion? What am I >missing here if anything? There is a whole paragraph devoted to >removal in the guide - not much more. > >If persuasion is required how best to do that - keeping in mind the >farm boy in me says get a bigger hammer! > >Thanks, >-m From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU Thu Aug 23 08:08:40 2007 From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:08:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Removal of rear axle In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070823083207.0349c9f8@nosimport.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070823083207.0349c9f8@nosimport.com> Message-ID: Peter, Thanks for the pointers. The wobble, according to the mechanic, was the result of one screw missing and the drum screw backing out from vibration. Apparently that was enough to break the seal allowing gear oil into the drum. Hence the repair. I guess the o-ring was just a casualty of age. I am fairly certain I will have another question or two once I get into it tonight. Is it important on replacing the axle to get the splines aligned in the same position as they were when the axle was removed? Or is wear not really a consideration. From the diagram I have it does not seem like it would be an issue. -m On Aug 23, 2007, at 9:40 AM, Peter C wrote: > Mark, > Briefly.... the axle IS held on by that screw...and the 4 > wheel studs and nuts. Not to worry. But the axle does just pull > out, and that's OK. > > Removal of the bearing, if you're so inclined, can be > accomplished by buying/renting a wheel puller and fabricating a way > to use it...... OR. installing the brake drum on inside out and > smacking it smartly with a large hammer, preferably rubber, whilst > rotating it. Once you've gotten the retaining nut off and the tab > washer. (and the left side is LH threads) > > Peter C > == > > At 07:37 AM 8/23/2007, Mark A. O'Neil wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Earlier this week I wrote asking about a rear wheel wobble on my '79 >> spridget. Turns out it was not the rim, > > WHAT WAS IT? From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Aug 23 08:40:57 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 09:40:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Removal of rear axle References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070823083207.0349c9f8@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <005d01c7e593$9ee48c80$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > The wobble, according to the mechanic, was the result of one screw > missing and the drum screw backing out from vibration. Apparently > that was enough to break the seal allowing gear oil into the drum. > Hence the repair. I guess the o-ring was just a casualty of age. Your mechanic is full of it. The lugnuts hold everything in place. You could run without any of the other screws (as long as you didn't take your wheel off) and not have any of that happen. If, however, your lugnuts were not properly done up, the other three screws are NOT adequate to the job they have suddenly inherited and you will get your wheel wobble and your seal violation. You caused the problem by not being diligent when putting the tire on. It could have been worse... have you seen the video of the RX-7 that lost all four wheels in an autocross? David Lieb From dwoerpel at wi.net Thu Aug 23 09:59:01 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:59:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Perfect for Just Ed-Camino In-Reply-To: <99545.37081.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <99545.37081.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46CDAEC5.1030700@wi.net> Ron Soave wrote: > --- David Woerpel wrote: > >> I have seen that car I hope you were wearing protection. >> Ron Nah, no protection needed. Besides by the time everyone is done laughing at the MINI I'm long gone. It was in a very nice 'hood park out front of a worn 2-story with a couple of nice, though rather large, gentlemen on the front porch with an amazing assortment of 'tats'. OK, I'm joking, it was parked at Southridge Mall. I did go look at it wondering if the car was factory built or a custom job. If it's custom, I want to know who did the work! Now, if you square-bodied owners would remove the boot lid you could have an El Spridmino (or a P.R. Pickup as is most p.i.c. to say). I'm off to rebuild a couple of dynamos, er, generators. Good job while our monsoons are passing through, 9" and still more to come (rain, boys, I'm talking about /rain). /Time to buy an Amphicar or put outriggers on the Bugeye. Dave Burlington WI / / From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Aug 23 10:06:46 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:06:46 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Perfect for Just Ed-Camino In-Reply-To: <46CDAEC5.1030700@wi.net> Message-ID: Is that what's in that Jackie Chan movie? An El Spridmino? ;) >From: David Woerpel >Now, if you square-bodied owners would remove the boot lid you could >have an El Spridmino (or a P.R. Pickup as is most p.i.c. to say). > >Dave >Burlington WI From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu Aug 23 10:41:38 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:41:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget update & ring a ding ding In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Daniel1312 at aol.com [mailto:Daniel1312 at aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:02 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget update & ring a ding ding ...an A30/A25 a couple of Morris Minors (both ran last) ... Behind the Saab?!! C'mon! From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Aug 23 13:27:39 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:27:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] this is so wrong it's right Message-ID: <004b01c7e5bb$ad7576b0$08606410$@com> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RATROD-AUSTIN-MINI-CHEVY-PRO-STREET_W0QQitemZ 260150962005QQihZ016QQcategoryZ98062QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Ebay item number 260150962005 Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From Daniel1312 at aol.com Thu Aug 23 13:34:28 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:34:28 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget update & ring a ding ding Message-ID: The saabs a 2 stroke so on a like for like engine size ought to produce twice the power. A really fat guy was in one of the Minors. Possibly the minors were 998/1098? In a message dated 23/08/07 17:41:56 GMT Daylight Time, John.Deikis at va.gov writes: > ...an A30/A25 a couple of Morris Minors (both ran > last) ... > > Behind the Saab?!! C'mon! From peter at nosimport.com Thu Aug 23 13:40:10 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:40:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget update & ring a ding ding In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070823143825.035ef028@nosimport.com> At 02:34 PM 8/23/2007, Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: >The saabs a 2 stroke so on a like for like engine size ought to produce twice >the power. A really fat guy was in one of the Minors. Possibly the minors >were 998/1098? ============= I saw a .... um... shall-we-say..... BIG guy in a 2 stroke Saab go real fast, once. Peter C From dmg at bossig.com Thu Aug 23 13:41:39 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:41:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Saab's... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46CD8083.2194.12B37DA@dmg.bossig.com> I drove a 3-cyl Saab when I was living in RSA... Three cylinders, two distributors... Went like Stink!! - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Aug 23 13:47:09 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:47:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget update & ring a ding ding References: Message-ID: <009101c7e5be$64e1b910$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> The old DKW 3-cylinder 2-strokes had three sets of points and three coils (one of each for each cylinder). Musta been a bear to tune, but they ran pretty good... Never got to see one driven in anger. David Lieb From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Thu Aug 23 15:51:11 2007 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 17:51:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC! Some people think Spridget owners are nuts! Message-ID: <21567373.1187905871413.JavaMail.root@wmvirt99> http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/car/404246378.html NFI, yada, yada Ed From herby at herbytoys.com Thu Aug 23 20:26:53 2007 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:26:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tranny swap issues In-Reply-To: <00bc01c7e53c$facd3760$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <001101c7e5f6$3dce8a50$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> Yeah, I had some oilite bushings. Now to get it cut down. Yes, Paul my crank is .882 in the outermost ID. Now another question. Do I need the paper gasket on the back plate or will judicious use of "permatex" be okay? I have a whole bunch of engine gaskets but not that one. It looks pretty involved to cut out one of my own. Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com Hi Herby, I'm assuming that you are measuring deep in the end of the crankshaft to get that .750. I've never seen one, only heard about them, but seems to me that an easy fix is to get a .750 OD X .500 ID oilite bushing and saw off what you need. They all come in too long!! Shorten is easy! With my 5 speed adapter, the bushing fits in the very end of the crankshaft and just about all 1275 cranks are .882 there. I'd just get a larger OD bushing, if it were my car. Later, Paul A From mconn2 at bright.net Thu Aug 23 20:31:04 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:31:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Message-ID: <000801c7e5f6$d1eec470$8e34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> I'm back from Tennessee. I went to see the Grand Olde Oprey. From sprite58 at hotmail.com Thu Aug 23 21:04:35 2007 From: sprite58 at hotmail.com (r moses) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:04:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Mk2 Sprite for sale Message-ID: If interested. 1963 MK2 Sprite for sale. Just added 8/23/07 to www.austinhealeysprite.org Sale-Wanted-Trade section. _________________________________________________________________ More photos, more messages, more storageget 2GB with Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_2G_0507 From dmg at bossig.com Thu Aug 23 21:07:13 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:07:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <000801c7e5f6$d1eec470$8e34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> References: <000801c7e5f6$d1eec470$8e34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <46CDE8F1.21302.2C314B2@dmg.bossig.com> Isn't she a fantastic cook !! On 23 Aug 2007 at 22:31, Michael Conn wrote: >> I went to see the Grand Olde Oprey - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Aug 23 21:10:21 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:10:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Tranny swap issues In-Reply-To: <001101c7e5f6$3dce8a50$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> Message-ID: <253847.75514.qm@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Herby wrote: > judicious use of "permatex" be okay? Yes, but that would make you a card carrying member of the DPO club when the next guy has to take it apart and spends a half hour making a mess of cleaning it off (thank you, W!ll P&rry). At worst, the gasket is part of a cheap set that will leave you with spares. At best, it's a buck or two if someone has an open set. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow From herby at herbytoys.com Thu Aug 23 21:25:15 2007 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:25:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tranny swap issues In-Reply-To: <253847.75514.qm@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002301c7e5fe$63965940$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> Good point Ron! I'm trying to correct DPO issues now. Don't know what I was thinking. Ed's going to check his stock tomorrow. Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com > judicious use of "permatex" be okay? Yes, but that would make you a card carrying member of the DPO club when the next guy has to take it apart and spends a half hour making a mess of cleaning it off (thank you, W!ll P&rry). At worst, the gasket is part of a cheap set that will leave you with spares. At best, it's a buck or two if someone has an open set. Ron From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Thu Aug 23 22:07:46 2007 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:07:46 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] valve guides Message-ID: <794517.10999.qm@web50608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> G'day does anyone have a rule of thumb for deciding if valve guides are worn? when I hold the head up and look through the guide hole, it looks nice and shiny with no visual signs of wear. When the unsprung valve sits in the guide, there is some play. does anyone have some tips? I am having hardened exhaust seats inserted, so that I may end the days of fuel additives. Does anyone have tips for working a 12G1316 (smog) head? tips for porting etc? I told the guys at the shop, if there are cost effective gains to be made, then go for it, but I'm not looking for every last HP at any cost. Vizard doesn't have a lot to say about this head, and I figure they are fairly scarce here in Australia. I bought/imported mine from a lister. thanks Andy mkIIa sprite 59 minor coupe --------------------------------- Get the World's number 1 free email service. Find out more. From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Thu Aug 23 23:20:40 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:20:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tranny swap issues References: <002301c7e5fe$63965940$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> Message-ID: <004001c7e60e$86c5f780$f675fea9@p0k7l8> I also have the 1275 engine backplate gaskets for sale separately. 6.25. Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herby" To: "'Ron Soave'" ; Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tranny swap issues > Good point Ron! I'm trying to correct DPO issues now. Don't know what I was > thinking. Ed's going to check his stock tomorrow. > > Herby > 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) > 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) > 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) > herby at herbytoys.com > www.herbytoys.com > > > judicious use of "permatex" be okay? > > Yes, but that would make you a card carrying member of > the DPO club when the next guy has to take it apart > and spends a half hour making a mess of cleaning it > off (thank you, W!ll P&rry). At worst, the gasket is > part of a cheap set that will leave you with spares. > At best, it's a buck or two if someone has an open > set. > > Ron From BCAH at aol.com Fri Aug 24 00:22:11 2007 From: BCAH at aol.com (BCAH at aol.com) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 02:22:11 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] grease nipples Message-ID: For the steering rack all I did was remove the nipple and drill out the little ball with a small drill bit.The spring follows. Then I pushed a small rubber hose over the spout of a pump style oil can,---pushed the other end over the reinstalled nipple , ---and pumped away. To protect the rack from dirt(because of the open hole) I purchased some caps at the hardware store. These caps ,I think , are used to push over exposed bolts so one does not get cut. Works for me,-------Bob C in KS ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour From BCAH at aol.com Fri Aug 24 00:31:22 2007 From: BCAH at aol.com (BCAH at aol.com) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 02:31:22 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] extra grease fitting on suspension Message-ID: Hello all,----any advice on how to install the extra grease fitting on the lower wishbone spring plate? Drill and tap threads,----just drill a hole and force it in? What stays put? I have a grease gun with a rubber tip so maybe just drill a small hole and pump it in? Maybe use a small cut down bolt to screw in to close hole? Any thoughts out there? I am wondering if the pressure would blow out the grease fitting. Bob C ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour From pelliott at innercite.com Fri Aug 24 10:35:04 2007 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Pat) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 09:35:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tranny swap issues In-Reply-To: <002301c7e5fe$63965940$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> References: <253847.75514.qm@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <002301c7e5fe$63965940$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> Message-ID: <002501c7e66c$bb082c80$6501a8c0@edgewireless.com> What's worse is having to deal with DCO (Dumb Current owner)issues later down the road and spend a few hours cussing yourself for something stupid you did because you were in a hurry. I don't want to discuss how I've come to know this. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+pelliott=innercite.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+pelliott=innercite.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Herby Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 8:25 PM To: 'Ron Soave'; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tranny swap issues Good point Ron! I'm trying to correct DPO issues now. Don't know what I was thinking. Ed's going to check his stock tomorrow. Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com > judicious use of "permatex" be okay? Yes, but that would make you a card carrying member of the DPO club when the next guy has to take it apart and spends a half hour making a mess of cleaning it off (thank you, W!ll P&rry). At worst, the gasket is part of a cheap set that will leave you with spares. At best, it's a buck or two if someone has an open set. Ron _______________________________________________ pelliott at innercite.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Aug 24 10:43:49 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:43:49 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Tranny swap issues In-Reply-To: <002501c7e66c$bb082c80$6501a8c0@edgewireless.com> Message-ID: But, I bet a lot of enquiring minds want to know ... :) >From: "Pat" > >What's worse is having to deal with DCO (Dumb Current owner)issues later >down the road and spend a few hours cussing yourself for something stupid >you did because you were in a hurry. > >I don't want to discuss how I've come to know this. From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Fri Aug 24 14:26:11 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:26:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Innocenti For Sale Message-ID: <010001c7e68d$03020630$6501a8c0@actualshop> Sure wish I COULD!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: type79 at ix.netcom.com Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 1:21 PM Subject: Innocenti For Sale Shameless self-promotion - Item #120153401282 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=002&sspagename=ST RK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=120153401282&rd=1 From hal at katemuir.com Fri Aug 24 15:13:29 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:13:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] valve guides In-Reply-To: <794517.10999.qm@web50608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Andy, Treat the 1316 casting just the same as the 12G940. You can block of the air holes with 1/8 27 NPT allen plugs. Your machinist can tell you if the guides are worn, he should have specs for how much play is permissable; however, for the cost of replacing them it is a pretty safe bet they are worn. Hal From John.Deikis at va.gov Fri Aug 24 15:27:05 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 17:27:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] extra grease fitting on suspension In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Your question is unclear. You must not mean the "spring plate." Why would you grease it? JohnD -----Original Message----- From: BCAH at aol.com [mailto:BCAH at aol.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 2:31 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] extra grease fitting on suspension Hello all,----any advice on how to install the extra grease fitting on the lower wishbone spring plate? Drill and tap threads,----just drill a hole and force it in? What stays put? I have a grease gun with a rubber tip so maybe just drill a small hole and pump it in? Maybe use a small cut down bolt to screw in to close hole? Any thoughts out there? I am wondering if the pressure would blow out the grease fitting. Bob C ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Fri Aug 24 15:47:03 2007 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:47:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] valve guides Message-ID: <257901c7e698$4ef11b70$056a010a@mail2world.com> I think those fittings are 7/16-20 UNF, not 1/8-27 pipe thread... -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Hal Faulkner [hal at katemuir.com] Sent: 8/24/2007 5:13:29 PM To: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au;spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] valve guides Andy, Treat the 1316 casting just the same as the 12G940. You can block of the air holes with 1/8 27 NPT allen plugs. Your machinist can tell you if the guides are worn, he should have specs for how much play is permissable; however, for the cost of replacing them it is a pretty safe bet they are worn. Hal _______________________________________________ From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Fri Aug 24 16:03:40 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 17:03:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] valve guides References: <257901c7e698$4ef11b70$056a010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: <006901c7e69a$a1e5ea20$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> Yep. 1/8 would just fall inside!! From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Aug 24 18:42:33 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 17:42:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Rockford Craigslist - L(ocal) B(ooger) C(ontent) Message-ID: <86535.27864.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Doing my daily surf through the local collectible section of craigslist.org: http://rockford.craigslist.org/clt/397901508.html Every time my wife thinks the LBC jones is out of hand, something like this re-calibrates her. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Aug 24 19:24:36 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 20:24:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rockford Craigslist - L(ocal) B(ooger) C(ontent) References: <86535.27864.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <082f01c7e6b6$b4481e10$6401a8c0@Larry> Gawd, I miss Ill-inois. If it wasn't for WST digging up stories of animal love, necrophilia and sexually deviant automobiles, I'd think I could never go home again. LAD... ...praying for some dry weather so I can go to the BBQ cook-off championships tomorrow. Dave W. and you Northern IL folks... you still keeping the powder dry? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 7:42 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Rockford Craigslist - L(ocal) B(ooger) C(ontent) Doing my daily surf through the local collectible section of craigslist.org: http://rockford.craigslist.org/clt/397901508.html Every time my wife thinks the LBC jones is out of hand, something like this re-calibrates her. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ _______________________________________________ ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dwoerpel at wi.net Fri Aug 24 22:45:11 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 23:45:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rockford Craigslist - L(ocal) B(ooger) C(ontent) In-Reply-To: <082f01c7e6b6$b4481e10$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <86535.27864.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <082f01c7e6b6$b4481e10$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <46CFB3D7.7070401@wi.net> Ron, you have totally outdone yourself with this one......I mean JEEEEZ! Now, as a biologist I am totally contemplating the cloning procedure here. I just purchased Eastwood's home cloning kit, unfortunately it's made in China so the "new" King may have a different "slant" on things but will probably do a mean karaoke. OK, sorry. Larry, it's so damn wet down here that algae is growing on our skin. It's so moist the Bugeye turned green! We live on Mt. Ararat, however, so everything is dry in the house and garage. Not so nice for the lowland folks. Some city streets are closed off but not a big deal. Hopefully the humidity will leave us soon. Oh ya, get rid of the mosquitoes too. A person can't even work in the garage without giving a couple of pints of B+. Hmmm, a couple of strong Beefeater's and tonic should get the little buggers....or is that boogers? Have fun at the BBQ and thanks for thinking of us. Ron, let me know if you come across a Giulietta or GT...not that I can do anything about it but it's nice to drool. Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS Burlington WI (growing moldy cheese) Larry Daniels wrote: > Gawd, I miss Ill-inois. > > If it wasn't for WST digging up stories of animal love, necrophilia and > sexually deviant automobiles, I'd think I could never go home again. > > > LAD... > > ...praying for some dry weather so I can go to the BBQ cook-off > championships tomorrow. > > Dave W. and you Northern IL folks... you still keeping the powder dry? From Daniel1312 at aol.com Sat Aug 25 01:49:17 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 03:49:17 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Speeding Message-ID: Hi list, Well, it is a nice fast stretch of road ............. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/oxfordshire/6962448.stm Daniel1312 From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Sat Aug 25 05:47:29 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 06:47:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Speeding In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8a336b9d0708250447n2572e414md560d05d56fd0b66@mail.gmail.com> with a porcupine the pricks are on the outside. On 8/25/07, Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: > Hi list, > > Well, it is a nice fast stretch of road ............. > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/oxfordshire/6962448.stm > > Daniel1312 -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Aug 25 06:01:27 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 07:01:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rockford Craigslist - L(ocal) B(ooger) C(ontent) References: <86535.27864.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com><082f01c7e6b6$b4481e10$6401a8c0@Larry> <46CFB3D7.7070401@wi.net> Message-ID: <08c701c7e70f$abd0c4e0$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Woerpel" We live on Mt. Ararat... Ron, let me know if you come across a Giulietta or GT...not that I can do anything about it but it's nice to drool. Dave ============================ Dave, sell off some pieces of the ark to the tourists and you'll have enough to buy both cars. Larry From wsthompson at thicko.com Sat Aug 25 07:20:41 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 08:20:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] it's only fair (book recommendation) Message-ID: <000901c7e71a$beb3aa40$3c1afec0$@com> Since seeking asylum in Wisco for the 2nd half of my life (yes, I intend to live to be 100), I have occasionally been harsh, sometimes amused by life here north of the Cheddar Curtain. Well, in this instance, I have something very positive to share with you. I picked up a book at the Fond du Lac library called "Truck: a Love Story" by Michael Perry. See http://www.sneezingcow.com/ . This is certainly one of the best books I've read in my entire life, (and I read numerous books every week). If you get a chance, see if your library has it, or just order it from Michaels website or Amazon. Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From gjbranch at comcast.net Sat Aug 25 07:41:36 2007 From: gjbranch at comcast.net (Geoff Branch) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 09:41:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] it's only fair (book recommendation) References: <000901c7e71a$beb3aa40$3c1afec0$@com> Message-ID: <01a701c7e71d$a8b5c0e0$0201a8c0@DELL> I'll read this one if you'll read: The Power of One by Bryce Courtney. One of the most enjoyable reads of all times.....and I should know as I've been through it at least 4 times. Geoff Branch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: "'Spridget List'" ; "'Team Thicko'" Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 9:20 AM Subject: [Spridgets] it's only fair (book recommendation) > Since seeking asylum in Wisco for the 2nd half of my life (yes, I intend > to > live to be 100), I have occasionally been harsh, sometimes amused by life > here north of the Cheddar Curtain. > > > > Well, in this instance, I have something very positive to share with you. > I > picked up a book at the Fond du Lac library called "Truck: a Love Story" > by > Michael Perry. See http://www.sneezingcow.com/ . This is certainly one of > the best books I've read in my entire life, (and I read numerous books > every > week). If you get a chance, see if your library has it, or just order it > from Michaels website or Amazon. > > > > > > Wm. Severin Thompson From wsthompson at thicko.com Sat Aug 25 08:38:54 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 09:38:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] it's only fair (book recommendation) In-Reply-To: <01a701c7e71d$a8b5c0e0$0201a8c0@DELL> References: <000901c7e71a$beb3aa40$3c1afec0$@com> <01a701c7e71d$a8b5c0e0$0201a8c0@DELL> Message-ID: <000301c7e725$ab8031e0$028095a0$@com> I'll be glad to read that. I figure if any of you read "Truck: a Love Story", you'll soon rush to read his first book, which takes a little more serious tone, called "Population:485", which recounts "meeting your neighbors one siren at a time", and details his life as an EMT/volunteer fireman in a small town. -----Original Message----- From: Geoff Branch [mailto:gjbranch at comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 8:42 AM To: Wm. Severin Thompson; 'Spridget List'; 'Team Thicko' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] it's only fair (book recommendation) I'll read this one if you'll read: The Power of One by Bryce Courtney. One of the most enjoyable reads of all times.....and I should know as I've been through it at least 4 times. Geoff Branch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: "'Spridget List'" ; "'Team Thicko'" Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 9:20 AM Subject: [Spridgets] it's only fair (book recommendation) > Since seeking asylum in Wisco for the 2nd half of my life (yes, I intend > to > live to be 100), I have occasionally been harsh, sometimes amused by life > here north of the Cheddar Curtain. > > > > Well, in this instance, I have something very positive to share with you. > I > picked up a book at the Fond du Lac library called "Truck: a Love Story" > by > Michael Perry. See http://www.sneezingcow.com/ . This is certainly one of > the best books I've read in my entire life, (and I read numerous books > every > week). If you get a chance, see if your library has it, or just order it > from Michaels website or Amazon. > > > > > > Wm. Severin Thompson From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Aug 25 09:32:00 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 08:32:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] it's only fair (book recommendation) In-Reply-To: <000301c7e725$ab8031e0$028095a0$@com> Message-ID: <146651.17275.qm@web30509.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- "Wm. Severin Thompson" wrote: > I figure if any of you read "Truck: a Love Story", > you'll soon rush to read > his first book, which takes a little more serious > tone, called > "Population:485", which recounts "meeting your > neighbors one siren at a > time", I dunno - last time I got a book from a library in Wisconsin, all the pages were already colored in. Ron From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Aug 25 09:58:39 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 08:58:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Speeding Message-ID: <380-220078625155839109@earthlink.net> Daniel wrote: "Well, it is a nice fast stretch of road ............." When I read about this the other day, I immediately thought of the idiot copper in Shropshire who was caught driving his Vauxhall Vectra police car at the previous record speeds consistently over 100 mph, peaking at 159 mph in the wee hours of the morning. Caught when other officers saw the tape made by speed cameras in the car itself, charges were filed and the copper hauled into court. He told the judge he had merely "taken the car out to assess its capabilities." Although the judge admitted that the bonehead had driven at "eye-watering" speeds, he found him not guilty, and then went on to criticize the police for the investigation! Not surprisingly there was a public outcry not only from road safety groups, but from the father of a girl who had lost a leg when hit by a speeding police car. "There was one rule for us and one for them," the father complained. http://tinyurl.com/yvuyrs I believe if you check your own state's vehicle code, you will find that police officers are required to observe ALL traffic laws unless in hot pursuit or given an emergency assignment authorizing red light and siren (Code 3). Personally, I got sufficient adrenaline in the pursuits. When in the police academy, the CHP traffic instructor told us, "I guarantee that within a year, one of you will be involved in an accident when you did not observe that law." Sure enough, it happened in five months, and the guy was out of a job. Buster Evans From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Aug 25 10:07:41 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 09:07:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] it's only fair (book recommendation) Message-ID: <380-22007862516741750@earthlink.net> Ron Soave wrote: "I dunno - last time I got a book from a library in Wisconsin, all the pages were already colored in." I'm gonna sue your derriere! I fell off my chair with laughter and sprained my fat! Buster From hal at katemuir.com Sat Aug 25 12:08:12 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 11:08:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] valve guides In-Reply-To: <006901c7e69a$a1e5ea20$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: Missed the post that this is a response to, but.... The tap that I used to chase the threads on the air holes on my 12G1316 head is clearly marked 1/8-27 NPT. Much bigger in diameter than 1/8". Hal -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of WJHS1960 Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 3:04 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] valve guides <> Yep. 1/8 would just fall inside!! From hal at katemuir.com Sat Aug 25 12:20:21 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 11:20:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] valve guides In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Oh yes, "drill size 21/64". Pipe threads are bizzare. Hal -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Hal Faulkner Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 11:08 AM To: WJHS1960; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] valve guides Missed the post that this is a response to, but.... The tap that I used to chase the threads on the air holes on my 12G1316 head is clearly marked 1/8-27 NPT. Much bigger in diameter than 1/8". Hal -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of WJHS1960 Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 3:04 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] valve guides <> Yep. 1/8 would just fall inside!! From froggi60 at gmail.com Sat Aug 25 12:45:08 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 11:45:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] LBCs & Cats...Toilet Bowl Cleaning Instructions !!!! Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10708251145x20bf883ch708970e998474264@mail.gmail.com> *-------Original Message-------* this Really works,,, you can use turpentine with it too ???? *Instructions for cleaning a toilet**: ** ** ** 1. Put both lids of the toilet up and add 1/8 cup of pet shampoo to the water in the bowl. 2. Pick up the cat and soothe himwhile you carry him towards the bathroom.** ** 3. In one smooth movement, put the cat in the toilet and close both lids. You may** **need to stand on the lid.** ** 4. The cat will self agitate and make ample suds. ****Never mind the noises that come from the toilet, the cat is* ***actually enjoying this. ** 5. Flush the toilet three or four times. ****This provides a "power-wash" and rinse".** ** 6. Have someone open the front door of your home. Be sure that there are no people between the bathroom and the front door. **** 7. Stand behind the toilet as far as you can,** **and quickly lift both lids.** ** 8. The cat will rocket out of the toilet,** **streak through the bathroom, and run outside where he will dry himself off.** ** 9. Both the commode and the cat will be sparkling clean.* ** ? *Sincerely, ** The Dog ** * ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 001301c7aeb2$96ae1030$bd505bd12.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 001201c7aeb2$96ab9f30$bd505bd11.jpg] From herby at herbytoys.com Sat Aug 25 18:16:02 2007 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 17:16:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tranny swap issues In-Reply-To: <002501c7e5fb$33736120$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <000001c7e776$4b84cca0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> Well after some deeper diving in the "parts bins" I found a rear plate gasket. Thanks anyway to Ed and Paul A. for your offers. I keep saying I'm going to sort and catalog this stuff but of course that takes time away from doing fun stuff like cleaning 45 years of grease, oil and general crud out of the tunnel and off the underside of a Sprite :( Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com New gasket is desirable, but you can use the permatex OK. The only place that needs sealing is around the oil pump. All the rest of the gasket is there for the ride! The 1275 back plate gasket fits all the engines. The 948/1098 ones don't! Later, Paul A From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Aug 25 18:26:39 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 17:26:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tranny swap issues In-Reply-To: <000001c7e776$4b84cca0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> Message-ID: > cleaning 45 years of grease, oil and general crud out > of the tunnel and off the underside of a Sprite That's your British rust proofing. Better to leave it alone. From peter at nosimport.com Sat Aug 25 18:30:21 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 19:30:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] it's only fair (book recommendation) In-Reply-To: <146651.17275.qm@web30509.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <000301c7e725$ab8031e0$028095a0$@com> <146651.17275.qm@web30509.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070825192755.0327ad40@nosimport.com> At 10:32 AM 8/25/2007, Ron Soave wrote: >--- "Wm. Severin Thompson" >wrote: > > I figure if any of you read "Truck: a Love Story", > > you'll soon rush to read > > his first book, which takes a little more serious > > tone, called > > "Population:485", which recounts "meeting your > > neighbors one siren at a > > time", > >I dunno - last time I got a book from a library in >Wisconsin, all the pages were already colored in. > >Ron At which Road America do you think you'll be racing at? You MAY want to change license plates. Besides, that's recycled from the Bush presidential library joke PPP From herby at herbytoys.com Sat Aug 25 18:35:36 2007 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 17:35:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tranny swap issues In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000101c7e779$06eea270$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> Yeah, but it's a Kalifornia Kar and I don't drive it in rain :) Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com -----Original Message----- From: Billy Zoom [mailto:billyzoom at billyzoom.com] Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 5:27 PM To: herby at herbytoys.com; spridgets at autox.team.net; 'Paul Asgeirsson'; 'EDatJust' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tranny swap issues > cleaning 45 years of grease, oil and general crud out > of the tunnel and off the underside of a Sprite That's your British rust proofing. Better to leave it alone. From pythias at pacifier.com Sat Aug 25 18:37:28 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 17:37:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 flywheel? Message-ID: <167311663.20070825173728@pacifier.com> Hello Spridgets, anybody have a spare 1275 flywheel i can beg borrow (forever!) steal or buy? .. just in case i decide to replace my 1098, i need to have the flywheel for ready for Paul's 5 speed that's already in the car! TIA -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite "the red thing" (HAN8L 49403) WANTED: Meaningful overnight relationship. From herby at herbytoys.com Sat Aug 25 18:39:51 2007 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 17:39:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] oil pump Q Message-ID: <000201c7e779$9eeefcf0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> After pulling the rear plate and looking at my oil pump I notice it has 2 Phillips head screws and 2 hex head screws/bolts. Is this normal or is it another DPO "modification"? Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Sat Aug 25 20:27:15 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 21:27:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] oil pump Q References: <000201c7e779$9eeefcf0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> Message-ID: <00ed01c7e788$9e24aa40$6501a8c0@actualshop> You have a newer-incorrect replacement pump, Herb. er, unless they are at 10:30, 2:30, 4:30, and 7:30. See http://www.justbrits.com/1275/pump.html Lemme know if you want correct one. From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Sun Aug 26 09:44:25 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 08:44:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Few days away Message-ID: <001e01c7e7f7$fcb7f0c0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Hi all, Leaving today at noon and I'll be away from the shop, phone and email until Thursday afternoon, Aug 30. Doing the Creation Vacation routine again at Camp McGruder on the coast as a "Friend of the Family". Lotsa work, lotsa fun, lotsa satisfaction! Always Nice doing this volunteer work. I look forward to it. Paul A From herby at herbytoys.com Sun Aug 26 13:52:16 2007 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 12:52:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] oil pump Q In-Reply-To: <00ed01c7e788$9e24aa40$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <000001c7e81a$9bff44e0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> The pump has what looks like Hoboorn-Eaton printed on it and the hex screws are at the "temporary" locations as shown in your pix (upper left and lower right). I really don't want to have to tear apart the engine unless absolutely required. If I have to go that far I'm just going to throw a 266 cam in it too. If I do that I may not get back together in time for the Sep 09 Brit Show. I'm not Frank! Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+herby=herbytoys.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+herby=herbytoys.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of 63AHBJ7 Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 7:27 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil pump Q You have a newer-incorrect replacement pump, Herb. er, unless they are at 10:30, 2:30, 4:30, and 7:30. See http://www.justbrits.com/1275/pump.html Lemme know if you want correct one From kidjoevid at yahoo.com Sun Aug 26 16:32:55 2007 From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com (Joe Lansing) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 15:32:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Dizzy spindle boss Message-ID: <877442.2706.qm@web33212.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I wrote a month ago regarding my incredibly bad karma and mechanical abilities when my brand new rebuilt 1275 broke the boss in the block for the dizzy spindle. If anyone has any insight as to what went wrong, please let me know what you think. See a pic at the link below. I finally got a new block and it goes to the machine shop tomorrow. Surely there isn't anything one could do assembling the short block that would cause this, would there? The freakin' thing ran smooth for 60 sec. http://www.flickr.com/photos/40542646 at N00/1243788992/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/40542646 at N00/1242964161/ Joe Lansing 1962 effing Sprite 1972 effing tree-crunched, non selling, pile-o-GT6 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ From Daniel1312 at aol.com Sun Aug 26 16:52:47 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 18:52:47 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Dizzy spindle boss Message-ID: I've never heard of this happening before. Could be the block was damaged already at that point, the spindle was a mismatch with this particular block and was tight so seized, could be the distributor was binding somehow, stopped and the spindle stopped till the cam spat it out? Do you have a picture of what the spindle looked like after? Did the spindle turn freely in the block when it was assembled? The block was a 1275? Regards Daniel In a message dated 26/08/07 23:33:28 GMT Daylight Time, kidjoevid at yahoo.com writes: > wrote a month ago regarding my incredibly bad karma > and mechanical abilities when my brand new rebuilt > 1275 broke the boss in the block for the dizzy > spindle. If anyone has any insight as to what went > wrong, please let me know what you think. See a pic at > the link below. I finally got a new block and it goes > to the machine shop tomorrow. Surely there isn't > anything one could do assembling the short block that > would cause this, would there? The freakin' thing ran > smooth for 60 sec. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/40542646 at N00/1243788992/ > http://www.flickr.com/photos/40542646 at N00/1242964161/ > > Joe Lansing From dwoerpel at wi.net Sun Aug 26 17:02:21 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 18:02:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Dizzy spindle boss In-Reply-To: <877442.2706.qm@web33212.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <877442.2706.qm@web33212.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46D2067D.80100@wi.net> Joe, There had to be weakness or a bind as Daniel pointed out. I'm sorry to make a joke when you're probably really frustrated, but it's so obvious what the problem was. The block was made in New Jersey (N J)! ;-) Running away as fast as I can! Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS I forgot what town I live in Joe Lansing wrote: > I wrote a month ago regarding my incredibly bad karma > and mechanical abilities when my brand new rebuilt > 1275 broke the boss in the block for the dizzy > spindle. If anyone has any insight as to what went > wrong, please let me know what you think. See a pic at > the link below. I finally got a new block and it goes > to the machine shop tomorrow. Surely there isn't > anything one could do assembling the short block that > would cause this, would there? The freakin' thing ran > smooth for 60 sec. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/40542646 at N00/1243788992/ > http://www.flickr.com/photos/40542646 at N00/1242964161/ > > Joe Lansing > 1962 effing Sprite > 1972 effing tree-crunched, non selling, pile-o-GT6 From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Aug 26 18:22:03 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 00:22:03 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Dizzy spindle boss Message-ID: More importantly, what does your engine builder think happened, Joe? Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Aug 26 18:26:29 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 00:26:29 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] valve guides Message-ID: Might as well go the better valve guide material as well then which will hold up better with unleaded fuel. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Aug 26 18:26:40 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 18:26:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Dizzy spindle boss In-Reply-To: <877442.2706.qm@web33212.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <877442.2706.qm@web33212.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910708261726j455d1ffbgb255d492221dbe7a@mail.gmail.com> I would look hard for debris. Was cam end float checked? Maybe the cam moved in/out too much and gears came out of mesh? Bummer. At least Spridget blocks are still available and relatively cheap. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Aug 26 18:29:13 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 18:29:13 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Braver than you? Message-ID: <5f00d9910708261729v564743dbx748cf9cab9451ec0@mail.gmail.com> I saw a Spitfire with Illinois plates parked with the top down and Best Buy in Baton Rouge. I hope the guy(gal?) has a trailer or at least AAA. It looked to be in good/fair shape and seemed to be a daily driver type. Brave fellow if he(she?) drove all the way down from yankeeland. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Aug 26 18:30:33 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 18:30:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] valve guides In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910708261730y74e79b71o2601ee89b7c08ffc@mail.gmail.com> Does the guide have to be special for unleaded fuel? Either way, chief say guides cheap, go new, kemosabbee. From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Sun Aug 26 19:01:13 2007 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:01:13 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] valve guides In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910708261730y74e79b71o2601ee89b7c08ffc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <753033.47081.qm@web50601.mail.re2.yahoo.com> cheers derf, I dont believe the guides are specific for leded/unleaded fuel, but i believe guide material and the valve material need to be compatible or wear can be accelerated. Also, valve stem seals.... Only on the inlets? or exhaust too? I have had it with the standard bolts for the main bearings, or more specifically, with the poxy locktabs which seem to be little more than a pre-load losing swarf generator. I cant get the bolts torqued up without the locktab deforming, spinning, shredding or squeezing. I am buying ARP main studs today. Andy derf wrote: Does the guide have to be special for unleaded fuel? Either way, chief say guides cheap, go new, kemosabbee. --------------------------------- Feel safe with award winning spam protection on Yahoo!7 Mail. Find out more. From mconn2 at bright.net Sun Aug 26 19:02:55 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:02:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) References: <000801c7e5f6$d1eec470$8e34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <46CDE8F1.21302.2C314B2@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <002701c7e846$011533f0$c434ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Er, yes, I suppose she is. (Boiled beef and carrots, boiled beef and carrots etc., etc.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G." To: "spridgets" Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject) > Isn't she a fantastic cook !! > > On 23 Aug 2007 at 22:31, Michael Conn wrote: > >>> I went to see the Grand Olde Oprey > > - > Dave G > '65 MKIII Sprite > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Sun Aug 26 19:10:29 2007 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:10:29 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] oil pump Q In-Reply-To: <000001c7e81a$9bff44e0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> Message-ID: <573662.49231.qm@web50603.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Holborn-Eaton were a factory pump. At least they are listed as one of the original pumps in my workshop manual. I recently chose not to replace my Holborn-Eaton oil pump. I dismantled it, saw some light scoring on the lobes, but had a lobe/lobe clearance of about .002, and the book says <.006 is permissible. That same day I read somebody's post about "you know you're a Mo$$ customer when...." and decided to stick with the original pump. My eaton pump has the philips head screws, and I wondered the same thing about a DPO. Andy Herby wrote: The pump has what looks like Hoboorn-Eaton printed on it and the hex screws are at the "temporary" locations as shown in your pix (upper left and lower right). I really don't want to have to tear apart the engine unless absolutely required. If I have to go that far I'm just going to throw a 266 cam in it too. If I do that I may not get back together in time for the Sep 09 Brit Show. I'm not Frank! Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+herby=herbytoys.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+herby=herbytoys.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of 63AHBJ7 Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 7:27 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil pump Q You have a newer-incorrect replacement pump, Herb. er, unless they are at 10:30, 2:30, 4:30, and 7:30. See http://www.justbrits.com/1275/pump.html Lemme know if you want correct one _______________________________________________ a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Sick of deleting your inbox? Yahoo!7 Mail has free unlimited storage. Get it now. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Aug 26 19:14:39 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 19:14:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] valve guides In-Reply-To: <753033.47081.qm@web50601.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <5f00d9910708261730y74e79b71o2601ee89b7c08ffc@mail.gmail.com> <753033.47081.qm@web50601.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910708261814q1abc0dbfub4940841bdefacc9@mail.gmail.com> I consider ARP stuff to be a wise investment. Good stuff is hard to beat. If you are having anything else done to the head you may as well go all the way and do it right. Get new guides pressed in and get a good valve job. Get some mild porting done while you're in there. Cheers, Derf From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Aug 26 19:39:09 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 20:39:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A Puzzler Message-ID: <099401c7e84b$11179d60$6401a8c0@Larry> Oh, incredibly wise ones, I have a question for you. Today while stripping down my Bugeye #2 project, I found a tag screwed to the chassis rail just after the chassis number plate. In fact, the screw at the trailing edge of the chassis plate was shared in holding down the leading edge of this second tag. The tag seems to be a vinyl type material and is 1" tall by 1.75" wide. It bears the letters and numbers "BMC-61". Does anybody have any idea what this means? There is also a lot of crayon lettering on the rear of the dash on the passenger side. I didn't write it all down before leaving Flounder's shop where it is stored, but neither of us could make any sense of it. The chassis tag on this car says AN5L / 47156 which would seem to indicate a September 1960 build date by normal production. That doesn't jibe with a "BMC-61" tag. Is it possible that this was a CKD car from somewhere other than Australia? Horler says Aussie CKD's had chassis numbers prefaced with YH and this is a LHD car. He also says that cars were taken out of the numbering order to be assembled overseas later as CKD cars and that the "largest" market was Australia, but not the only market. Could this have been taken out of the production line order in 1960 and sold as one of the 24 LHD CKD cars in 1961? Yeah, I know, highly doubtful. Also the first color on this car is a kind of maroon color. (I think -- I'm a bit color blind -- maybe Flounder can describe it better.) That doesn't seem to be a standard color scheme according to Horler, either. One other bit of info is that there is no title with it and it definitely was a dedicated race car in it's prior life and, in fact, was bought in a package deal with another Bugeye race car with Elliot Forbes-Robinson race history that Flounder took as part of his end of the deal. I am at a loss to explain the "BMC-61" tag and the, seemingly, Sept. 1960 build date by chassis number. Has anybody heard of dealers attaching this tag when the car was sold new? The odd color could be explained by somebody totally stripping it to bare metal throughout (and I mean every inch) and repainting to his taste. Anybody have a clue what is with this car / tag number? Larry Daniels From b-evans at earthlink.net Sun Aug 26 20:05:50 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 19:05:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A Puzzler Message-ID: <380-2200781272550437@earthlink.net> Larry Daniels wrote: "It bears the letters and numbers "BMC-61". Beats the snot outta me. Mine did not have one when new. . There is also a lot of crayon lettering on the rear of the dash on the passenger side." Let's see, there is that set of numbers/letters anywhere on the rear of the dash, and there another set of numbers/letters written on the hump behind the seats. Both were in yellow crayon on mine. One was the interior and exterior colors, and the other the VIN number. Without dashing to my books, I cannot recall which was which. The number on the hump, however, is a good indicator of whether the car has been painted or not. If there is no number, the bet is that it has been painted over (as mine was for the BusterCluster). There, again is where Jay would be the best bet for the authoritative word. Buster From b-evans at earthlink.net Sun Aug 26 20:17:36 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 19:17:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A Puzzle Message-ID: <380-22007812721736765@earthlink.net> Bill McLeod wrote: "It has certainly been a while, but that sure sounds like the tag the state of California used to fasten beside the VIN number to authorize a year of first sale." Hmm. Never heard of that one. It was not part of the California Vehicle Code in 1963, nor was it in the courses taught by the CHP at that time. Mine was registered in California in 1963, and no additional tag was put on the car. Buster Evans From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Sun Aug 26 20:27:32 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:27:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A Puzzle References: <380-22007812721736765@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <010301c7e851$d35c1210$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> True. Been discussed AND proved beyond any reasonable doubt on the Big Healey List, guys!! Ad nauseam. From hal at katemuir.com Sun Aug 26 20:52:39 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 19:52:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] valve guides Message-ID: This never showed up on the list, so here it is again. Hal Oh yes, "drill size 21/64". Pipe threads are bizzare. Hal -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Hal Faulkner Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 11:08 AM To: WJHS1960; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] valve guides Missed the post that this is a response to, but.... The tap that I used to chase the threads on the air holes on my 12G1316 head is clearly marked 1/8-27 NPT. Much bigger in diameter than 1/8". Hal -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of WJHS1960 Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 3:04 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] valve guides <> Yep. 1/8 would just fall inside!! From pdx.pete at verizon.net Sun Aug 26 20:59:33 2007 From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (pdxpete) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 19:59:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A Puzzle References: <380-22007812721736765@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <009c01c7e856$4c2dcd10$67096f47@DBKF4T81> My Morris Minor had a similar tag on it. In this case it was labeled BMC 1961. I'm fairly certain that the title for the car claims it is a '61, whilst the VIN states it is if 1959 vintage. Dunno if this is something that is California-specific, but the car was originally titled there. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Bruce Evans" To: ; ; Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A Puzzle > Bill McLeod wrote: "It has certainly been a while, but that sure sounds > like the tag the state of California used to fasten beside the VIN number > to authorize a year of first sale." From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Aug 26 21:10:10 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 22:10:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [Mgs] ZDDP again References: <46C67A29.4090105@wi.net> <002501c7e855$7902a870$6600a8c0@yourmb2swywknr> Message-ID: <09f601c7e857$c7b40110$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Donahue" This product sounds interesting. BTW, STP is supposed to have ZDDP in it. Does it have enough to make up for what the EPA is taking out? Bob Donahue (Still Stuck in the '50s) ==================================== Bob, I don't have any ppm numbers for you, but this is what STP told me: I emailed STP from their website regarding the two oil additives and their relative amount of ZDDP. Here is their response: Dear Mr. Daniels, Thank you for contacting us about STP Oil Treatment. We always appreciate hearing from our consumers. The STP 4 Cylinder Oil Treatment contains only slightly more than the STP Oil Treatment. They both contain about 4 times the amount of ZDDP as what motor oils once contained. The product was originally designed for flat tappet cam motors. We have many classic car owners that use our product for this reason. Again, thank you for contacting us. Sincerely, Patti Copper From pelliott at innercite.com Sun Aug 26 21:46:55 2007 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Patrick Elliott) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 20:46:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A Puzzle In-Reply-To: <009c01c7e856$4c2dcd10$67096f47@DBKF4T81> References: <380-22007812721736765@earthlink.net> <009c01c7e856$4c2dcd10$67096f47@DBKF4T81> Message-ID: <003b01c7e85c$ea3537e0$be9fa7a0$@com> I've got one too. It's an original California car. Patrick Elliott www.SyilAmerica.com -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+pelliott=innercite.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+pelliott=innercite.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of pdxpete Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 8:00 PM To: b-evans at earthlink.net; Spridgets at autox.team.net; midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com; bugeye at yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A Puzzle My Morris Minor had a similar tag on it. In this case it was labeled BMC 1961. I'm fairly certain that the title for the car claims it is a '61, whilst the VIN states it is if 1959 vintage. Dunno if this is something that is California-specific, but the car was originally titled there. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Bruce Evans" To: ; ; Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A Puzzle > Bill McLeod wrote: "It has certainly been a while, but that sure sounds > like the tag the state of California used to fasten beside the VIN number > to authorize a year of first sale." _______________________________________________ pelliott at innercite.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.8/973 - Release Date: 8/25/2007 5:00 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.8/973 - Release Date: 8/25/2007 5:00 PM From b-evans at earthlink.net Sun Aug 26 22:55:12 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:55:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A Puzzle Message-ID: <380-22007812745512609@earthlink.net> WJHS1960 wrote: "True. Been discussed AND proved beyond any reasonable doubt on the Big Healey List, guys!! Ad nauseam." And what I am saying is that as a cop contemporary to the issue, there was nothing in the California Vehicle Code and nothing from CHP instructors in 1963 (the vehicle code at that time did not change for two years). The Vehicle Code at that time requires that registration certificates carry the "year", and that year was determined by the year the vehicle was first sold. Having just checked the darkened pages of the California Vehicle Code issued to me so long ago, there is no provision for the Department of Motor Vehicles attaching any numbers to a vehicle. Section 10750 specifically states, "This section does not prohibit...nor prevent the *manufacturer* from placing in the ordinary course of business numbers or marks upon a new motor vehicle or parts thereof." As an historian, as a newspaperman, and as a cop, I would have to EVIDENCE proving the California Vehicle Code wrong. Simple as that. Can anyone offer ANY evidence? Buster From b-evans at earthlink.net Sun Aug 26 23:23:50 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 22:23:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A Puzzle Message-ID: <380-22007812752350187@earthlink.net> Gerard wrote: "Yep, I have had a couple 60's vintage BMC's with that tag... the '64 MG 1100 I have now has a BMC64 and had an MKI Midget with that plastic tag too." I think people are losing sight of the original issue. Bill believed, "It has certainly been a while, but that sure sounds like the tag the state of California used to fasten beside the VIN number to authorize a year of first sale." However, the plate Larry ref errs to is, "at the trailing edge of the chassis plate was shared in holding down the leading edge of this second tag." It is my contention that the *State of California* never put such a tag on a vehicle. Neither did my new Bugeye have such a tag. Buster From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon Aug 27 00:12:54 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 23:12:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A Puzzle Message-ID: <380-22007812761254640@earthlink.net> Gerard... I think that the one thing we can all agree on is that Donald Healey is rolling over in his grave with laughter at all of the consternation he has caused to Bugeye/Frogeye/BMC owners! Right now, we are trying to wrestle with his bloody numbers game. What numbers where mean what? I suspect that if you go to the 50 states, you will have some probably differ on what IS the correct VIN number! Now is the issue of a simple little tag with three letters and two numbers!!! Then you get into the entire questions of colors, badges, gas caps, and on down the line. Then you have problems like my front U-joint access hole from which you had to use a dentists mirror to locate, necessitating some tin snips within a couple of months. Then there are all of the head scars from the bonnet! Thank you Donald. You deserve all of those quaint Anglo-Saxonisms uttered sotto voce at you. Buster From dwramsey at att.net Mon Aug 27 01:42:27 2007 From: dwramsey at att.net (dwramsey at att.net) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 07:42:27 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] A Puzzler Message-ID: <082720070742.25950.46D28063000492170000655E2160376316970A9C030E9D990B@att.net> The BMC61 tag is common on sprites sold in 61 in the USA, mine has it, my neighbor's does also. By the vin number mine was built around 4JUL60, AN5L 42XXX, not sure about his. I've seen this same tag on several other cars over the years. My neighbor's car is red and he bought it new. It is a dark blood red and not resale red like most bug-i's are these days. The build information is written in yellow crayon on the back of the dash and there are marks on the rear of the tunnel. The only thing on the back of the dash I wasn't sure of was, what the WW is for. Either white wall tires or windscreen washers as my car came with both. Crash Bugeye #2 project, I found a tag screwed to the chassis rail just > after the chassis number plate.... "BMC-61". Does anybody have any idea what this > means? There is also a lot of crayon lettering on the rear of the dash on the > passenger side. > The chassis tag on this car says AN5L / 47156 which would seem to indicate a > September 1960 build date by normal production. That doesn't jibe with a > "BMC-61" tag.> Also the first color on this car is a kind of maroon color. (I think -- I'm a > bit color blind -- maybe Flounder can describe it better.) That doesn't seem > to be a standard color scheme according to Horler, either. From Daniel1312 at aol.com Mon Aug 27 04:49:05 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 06:49:05 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] valve guides Message-ID: I didn't think lock tabs were ever used with main bearing bolts for the reasons that you have discovered? In a message dated 27/08/07 02:01:29 GMT Daylight Time, a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au writes: > I have had it with the standard bolts for the main bearings, or more > specifically, with the poxy locktabs which seem to be little more than a pre-load > losing swarf generator. > I cant get the bolts torqued up without the locktab deforming, spinning, > shredding or squeezing. From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Mon Aug 27 05:48:08 2007 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 07:48:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] A Puzzle Message-ID: <17836400.1188215288773.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I have a '61 MG Midget out of Oxnard, California that had the same tag held on by one of the VIN plate screws. It is an extremely original Midget. Mike C -----Original Message----- >From: Patrick Elliott >Sent: Aug 26, 2007 11:46 PM >To: Spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A Puzzle > >I've got one too. It's an original California car. > >Patrick Elliott >www.SyilAmerica.com > > >-----Original Message----- >From: spridgets-bounces+pelliott=innercite.com at autox.team.net >[mailto:spridgets-bounces+pelliott=innercite.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf >Of pdxpete >Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 8:00 PM >To: b-evans at earthlink.net; Spridgets at autox.team.net; >midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com; bugeye at yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A Puzzle > >My Morris Minor had a similar tag on it. In this case it was labeled BMC >1961. I'm fairly certain that the title for the car claims it is a '61, >whilst the VIN states it is if 1959 vintage. Dunno if this is something that > >is California-specific, but the car was originally titled there. > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Robert Bruce Evans" >To: ; ; > >Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 7:17 PM >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A Puzzle > > >> Bill McLeod wrote: "It has certainly been a while, but that sure sounds >> like the tag the state of California used to fasten beside the VIN number >> to authorize a year of first sale." >_______________________________________________ >pelliott at innercite.com > >Edit your replies > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.8/973 - Release Date: 8/25/2007 >5:00 PM > > ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Aug 27 06:22:22 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 07:22:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 4 valves, 4 hands, 2 idiots Message-ID: <002101c7e8a4$eda9d780$c8fd8680$@com> Larry " Mr. Peepers" Daniels and I returned to his never ending attempts to get one of his bugeyes on the road. Latest decision involves doing our own sandblasting, and ""DA'ing" the sheet metal. We have a local guy that does great media blasting work, but gets expensive if it has to include sand blasting. One of the benefits of media blasting is the bare metal does not immediately begin to rust, whereas sandblasted steel starts rusting the moment it's blasted, requiring immediate application of epoxy primer to seal it. Unfortunately, this western tub (former racecar) sat out in IL winters on an open trailer, inclined in a manner that water and debris pooled in odd places. So, it does have enough surface rust to warrant sandblasting. So, Lar' & I once again got out the pressurized Harbor Freight sandblaster that I got from Jacques in a car deal. We had tried it before, and it seemed clogged. We removed all media, and checked all the valves (4) and disassembled a couple of hoses and fittings, and still was unable to get it to blast for more than a second. Our conclusion is the blast tip is unsuitable for the "Black Beauty" media that I like to use. We'll search for sand media or a different tip and see if that solves our issue. As we tried various valve combinations (one on the nozzle, one on the inlet, one on the siphon hose, and one on the bottom of the blaster), I'd catch Larry pointing the nozzle at me, at him, or at something expensive. I'm like. "hey!" Anyway, of course it was me that had his hand near the (pressurized) air inlet when in our 21st attempt to get it all to work, managed to sandblast the hell out of the topside of my hand. Today it looks like I was attacked with a red spray paint can. WST (one of the idiots, two of the hands. one of which is rust free) Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Aug 27 06:47:04 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 07:47:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ahh, the old angle iron bodged together thrick Message-ID: <002701c7e8a8$6089ecb0$219dc610$@com> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Austin-Healey-bug-eye-sprite-1960-58-59-Austi n-Healy-bug-eye-sprite-no-reserve_W0QQitemZ290154451556QQihZ019QQcategoryZ60 23QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem item number 290154451556 Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From teachjp at gmail.com Mon Aug 27 06:52:30 2007 From: teachjp at gmail.com (John Poynton) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 08:52:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] leaking master cylinder? Message-ID: I usually am lurking on the list, but really enjoy the banter, both of cars and cats. However, my rarely driven 79 midget has developed a leak under the brake pedal. I am assuming this means a new master cylinder. Is my assumption correct? Thank you all for the advice and good times. Peace, JP On 8/26/07, derf wrote: > > I would look hard for debris. Was cam end float checked? Maybe the > cam moved in/out too much and gears came out of mesh? > Bummer. At least Spridget blocks are still available and relatively > cheap. > Cheers, > Derf > _______________________________________________ > teachjp at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- John Poynton Resource Room Teacher Sts Neumann and Gorretti Catholic High School Philadelphia, PA From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Aug 27 06:55:04 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 06:55:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] leaking master cylinder? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910708270555i3b86945awd53ae3901afe59aa@mail.gmail.com> If it is leaking brake fluid it could be either brake or clutch MC. Or, you might have a broken reservoir or something. Have a look under the bonnet and report what you find. Cheers, Derf From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Aug 27 07:01:00 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 08:01:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 4 valves, 4 hands, 2 idiots References: <002101c7e8a4$eda9d780$c8fd8680$@com> Message-ID: <0a5701c7e8aa$528fab20$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" Anyway, of course it was me that had his hand near the (pressurized) air inlet when in our 21st attempt to get it all to work, managed to sandblast the hell out of the topside of my hand. Today it looks like I was attacked with a red spray paint can. ===================================== It was just your turn to get hurt. As I recall that was the second time you blasted your hand -- and in the same way. Now, what was that definition of insanity? After you got yourself the first time, I said it doesn't count if there's no blood. Thanks for accommodating me on the repeat performance. LAD From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Aug 27 07:06:23 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 08:06:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 4 valves, 4 hands, 2 idiots In-Reply-To: <0a5701c7e8aa$528fab20$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <002101c7e8a4$eda9d780$c8fd8680$@com> <0a5701c7e8aa$528fab20$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <002e01c7e8ab$15525f40$3ff71dc0$@com> The Dream Farm... where dreams have been sown & reaped since 2005, and blood has been spilling a similar amount of time. -----Original Message----- From: owner-team-thicko at Autox.Team.Net [mailto:owner-team-thicko at Autox.Team.Net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 8:01 AM To: Wm. Severin Thompson; 'Spridget List'; team-thicko at autox.team.net Subject: Re: 4 valves, 4 hands, 2 idiots ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" Anyway, of course it was me that had his hand near the (pressurized) air inlet when in our 21st attempt to get it all to work, managed to sandblast the hell out of the topside of my hand. Today it looks like I was attacked with a red spray paint can. ===================================== It was just your turn to get hurt. As I recall that was the second time you blasted your hand -- and in the same way. Now, what was that definition of insanity? After you got yourself the first time, I said it doesn't count if there's no blood. Thanks for accommodating me on the repeat performance. LAD From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Mon Aug 27 07:07:24 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 08:07:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 4 valves, 4 hands, 2 idiots In-Reply-To: <002e01c7e8ab$15525f40$3ff71dc0$@com> References: <002101c7e8a4$eda9d780$c8fd8680$@com> <0a5701c7e8aa$528fab20$6401a8c0@Larry> <002e01c7e8ab$15525f40$3ff71dc0$@com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0708270607n14cd922j5dfd2c01d1a67827@mail.gmail.com> Well we do think of you as our very own Matt Roloff. On 8/27/07, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > The Dream Farm... where dreams have been sown & reaped since 2005, and blood > has been spilling a similar amount of time. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-team-thicko at Autox.Team.Net > [mailto:owner-team-thicko at Autox.Team.Net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels > Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 8:01 AM > To: Wm. Severin Thompson; 'Spridget List'; team-thicko at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: 4 valves, 4 hands, 2 idiots > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" > > > Anyway, of course it was me that had his hand near the > (pressurized) air inlet when in our 21st attempt to get it all to work, > managed to sandblast the hell out of the topside of my hand. Today it looks > like I was attacked with a red spray paint can. > > ===================================== > > It was just your turn to get hurt. As I recall that was the second time you > > blasted your hand -- and in the same way. Now, what was that definition of > insanity? > > After you got yourself the first time, I said it doesn't count if there's no > > blood. Thanks for accommodating me on the repeat performance. > > LAD > > > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata From abcoz at hky.com Mon Aug 27 07:21:46 2007 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 09:21:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Distributors Message-ID: <009501c7e8ad$38c26a40$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Several weeks ago, I posted a request for information regarding restoration of Lucas 25D distributors. I had run out of donor distributors, from which to cobble together a reasonably properly functioning distributor for my '72 Midget. The unanimous recommendation, from those who responded (thanks, again, guys) was Advanced Distributors, in Shakopee, MN. I contacted owner Jeff Schlemmer, and discussed my car's needs, and turn-around time for his rebuilds. I also had an MGB distributor, which would be used on a friend's '80 MGB, to allow it to properly utilize it's twin SUs. To make a long story short, I'm absolutely delighted with the results, and the lightening-quick turn-around time. I installed my rebuilt/restored distributor (re-curved to Jeff's modified '67 specs), and, after driving the car for several hours this past Saturday afternoon & evening, I've been re-acquainted with the joy of driving a strong, stock 1275. You know, when you drive the same car for 25 years, things tend to deteriorate from optimum to marginal function in a very subtle, imperceptible manner. Although I'd changed distributors a few times over the years, it had been a few years since I really took a good, hard look at what my distributor's advance curve and total advance had morphed into. It was not a good thing. With Jeff's new advance curve (Jeff: "You're gonna like it"), it's like I have a freshly rebuilt engine. We plugged the other Jeff-massaged distributor into my friend's MGB, yesterday. Needless to say, he was just blown away by the dramatic improvement in the car's throttle response, and all-around drivability. So, I strongly urge anyone who' distributor has not been rebuilt since their car was built (that would probably include the vast majority of us) to send you distributors up to Jeff, for a rebuild. Mine (actually, this was a core I had lying around, rather than the one that was in my car) needed a new bushing, and clamp flange repair (Jeff's repair/modification will NEVER crack), as well as the re-curving. My costs were: Rebuild distributor w/shaft bushing = $99.00 Crack repair at clamp = $20.00 Lucas point/condenser/terminal block installed = $20.00 Total = $139.00, plus shipping (I used UPS second day air) Advanced Distributors www.advanceddistributors.com Bud Osbourne From racerbob70 at yahoo.com Mon Aug 27 07:34:10 2007 From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 06:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 4 valves, 4 hands, 2 idiots In-Reply-To: <002101c7e8a4$eda9d780$c8fd8680$@com> Message-ID: <876459.82044.qm@web51611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> --- "Wm. Severin Thompson" wrote: > I'm like. "hey!" Anyway, of course it was me that had his hand near the (pressurized) air inlet when in our 21st attempt to get it all to work, managed to sandblast the hell out of the topside of my hand. Today it looks like I was attacked with a red spray paint can. > Somehow the phrase, " Hey Bubba, watch this", comes to mind". LOL ____________________________________________________________________________________ Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Aug 27 08:56:47 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 07:56:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] bugsy vacation drive report Message-ID: <009301c7e8ba$7e44aee0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> The yearly sojourn to Packer Lake in the Sierra went well. The rebuilt 1275 started out well, but began sputtering and missing as the road angled up into the mountains. The more HP I needed, the more it sputtered. More throttle helped a bit so I concluded that the new carb needle was too lean. When I got to the lake, I borrowed the neighbor's tiny whetstone for sharpening fish hooks. I laid the needle on a flat surface and stroked a flat onto the midrange area of the needle. Test drove it to the top of the local ridge, MUCH better. A few more strokes of the whetstone and another retry gave good results. At 6000 feet, going uphill in third and pulling strong without miss, perfect!! I couldn't wait to get home to check the plugs. When I did, the color was excellent and the mileage looks to be fantastic. If I can keep my foot off the floor for a few months, I could easily imagine driving this version to Missouri. Since both daughters had to leave the lake for school (one to teach, one to learn) after just two days, the wife and I got our first taste of the "empty nest". So far, it tasted like fresh caught trout, excellent wine, and no need to shut the doors at night. Sweet! Regards, Glen Byrns From thcollin at mtu.edu Mon Aug 27 09:34:15 2007 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:34:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 4 valves, 4 hands, 2 idiots In-Reply-To: <002101c7e8a4$eda9d780$c8fd8680$@com> References: <002101c7e8a4$eda9d780$c8fd8680$@com> Message-ID: <60313l$qormf@email.mtu.edu> . . . But we in it shall be rememberhd; We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; For he to-day that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile This day shall gentle his condition: And gentlemen in England, now a-bed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks. . . Shakespeare (I guess that about sums up your weekend!) I've been using sand from the local concrete block plant. It comes in 50 pound bags and looks like the stuff that you once saw in ash trays beside elevators, etc. Very uniform in size and does come in fine and coarse grit. Of course there's the silica problem - just bundle up and wear your personal protection gear. Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Aug 27 09:36:38 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:36:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 4 valves, 4 hands, 2 idiots In-Reply-To: <60313l$qormf@email.mtu.edu> References: <002101c7e8a4$eda9d780$c8fd8680$@com> <60313l$qormf@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <003701c7e8c0$10f9f510$32eddf30$@com> Let the record show... there was no "manhood holding". -----Original Message----- From: Timothy H. Collins [mailto:thcollin at mtu.edu] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 10:34 AM To: Wm. Severin Thompson; 'Spridget List' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 4 valves, 4 hands, 2 idiots . . . But we in it shall be rememberhd; We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; For he to-day that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile This day shall gentle his condition: And gentlemen in England, now a-bed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks. . . Shakespeare (I guess that about sums up your weekend!) I've been using sand from the local concrete block plant. It comes in 50 pound bags and looks like the stuff that you once saw in ash trays beside elevators, etc. Very uniform in size and does come in fine and coarse grit. Of course there's the silica problem - just bundle up and wear your personal protection gear. Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From teachjp at gmail.com Mon Aug 27 10:18:48 2007 From: teachjp at gmail.com (John Poynton) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:18:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] brake master cylinder Message-ID: Ok, Thanks to David and Derf it seems as if it is the brake master cylinder. What would be the best source for a master cylinder? Moss or VB? There is somebody on ebay who is selling lockheed master cylinders for spridgets for $60 less than Moss and VB, does anyone know anything about Over Stock Auto Parts. He is listing it at $175! Thanks for the help. JP -- John Poynton Resource Room Teacher Sts Neumann and Gorretti Catholic High School Philadelphia, PA From Daniel1312 at aol.com Mon Aug 27 11:40:48 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 13:40:48 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Distributors Message-ID: I agree but it seems to be something a lot of people overlook. A distributor with the correct curve whether for a modified or standard engine is always money well spent. Danile1312 In a message dated 27/08/07 14:32:35 GMT Daylight Time, abcoz at hky.com writes: > Although I'd changed distributors a few times > over the years, it had been a few years since I really took a good, hard > look at what my distributor's advance curve and total advance had > morphed into. It was not a good thing. From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Aug 27 12:38:56 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 13:38:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] brake master cylinder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910708271138p5371ba73lf78a10baa29d098@mail.gmail.com> Best sources are, in general order: Peter C at WW www.nosimport.com Paul A at Morriservice Ed at Justbrits Autozone Oreilly Anyone else you can think of Hillary Clinton A few other souces Mo$$ VB The Chinese ambassador From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Aug 27 12:40:42 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 13:40:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] for the Miata owners that want to be less "sensitive" Message-ID: <006301c7e8d9$c78e0870$56aa1950$@com> http://www.motoamericainc.com/G20.htm Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Aug 27 12:41:42 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 13:41:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Distributors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910708271141o677c44cbsba9b405756df777a@mail.gmail.com> I agree. An otherwise wonderfully tuned car without a good dizzy curve is little better than a car with stock tuning. A-series dizzies have much room for improvement in the advance curve tuning department. Cheers, Derf From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Aug 27 12:54:35 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 13:54:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] brake master cylinder In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910708271138p5371ba73lf78a10baa29d098@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910708271138p5371ba73lf78a10baa29d098@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: If you get it from the Chinese ambassador, you can bypass Moss and Vicky Brit completely, and go straight to the source. On 8/27/07, derf wrote: > Best sources are, in general order: > Peter C at WW www.nosimport.com > Paul A at Morriservice > Ed at Justbrits > Autozone > Oreilly > Anyone else you can think of > Hillary Clinton > A few other souces > Mo$$ > VB > The Chinese ambassador > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Aug 27 13:30:52 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:30:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] another great rock video(no LBC) Message-ID: <001001c7e8e0$c8432370$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Not much you can say after this.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCgrG35-3js ....except "Don't book them for the Sprite meet!" Glen From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Aug 27 13:40:14 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 14:40:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] another great rock video(no LBC) In-Reply-To: <001001c7e8e0$c8432370$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <001001c7e8e0$c8432370$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <007401c7e8e2$19192640$4b4b72c0$@com> This is the guy you want for Sprite meets... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTAH8veqkU8&mode=user&search= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Glen Byrns Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 2:31 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] another great rock video(no LBC) Not much you can say after this.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCgrG35-3js ....except "Don't book them for the Sprite meet!" Glen _______________________________________________ wsthompson at thicko.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Aug 27 13:46:06 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 14:46:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] steering rack Message-ID: <007501c7e8e2$eadea060$c09be120$@com> On my street car. Any bright ideas as to why my steering rack can move side to side? (Yes, I will take a serious look at it over the weekend. just wondering if anyone else had seen this.) Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Aug 27 14:21:50 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:21:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] brake master cylinder In-Reply-To: References: <5f00d9910708271138p5371ba73lf78a10baa29d098@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910708271321h69735e4ctb16d3dd716262b66@mail.gmail.com> Yeah, I also forgot to put this list and ebay between Ed and Autozone. From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Aug 27 14:25:51 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:25:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] steering rack In-Reply-To: <007501c7e8e2$eadea060$c09be120$@com> References: <007501c7e8e2$eadea060$c09be120$@com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910708271325h39939b03m91cff8f41ad6dabf@mail.gmail.com> I would say inadequate hold down force, i.e. something is loose. Things that move and shouldn't get duct tape. Things that should move and don't get WD-40. From refisk at chartermi.net Mon Aug 27 14:41:10 2007 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 16:41:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] steering rack References: <007501c7e8e2$eadea060$c09be120$@com> Message-ID: <020d01c7e8ea$9a26bdd0$6401a8c0@refisk> The rack on my '59 Sprite has moved about 3/16ths of an inch side to side since the day I bought it in 1968. Rack clamps and mounting bolts are correctly tightened. The car tracks nice and straight with no wandering. I always figured it was a factory oversteer reduction mod. :-) Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: "'Spridgets'" Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:46 PM Subject: [Spridgets] steering rack > On my street car. > > > > Any bright ideas as to why my steering rack can move side to side? (Yes, I > will take a serious look at it over the weekend. just wondering if anyone > else had seen this.) > > Wm. Severin Thompson From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Aug 27 14:45:20 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:45:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Lance's Lambo found dead on the Edens Message-ID: <0b7701c7e8eb$2fe0f8e0$6401a8c0@Larry> And another one from the more-money-than-brains files: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chi-070827edens-crash,0,933588.story?col l=chi-newslocal-hed Maybe he lost it when one of Vick's dogs bit the tires. From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon Aug 27 14:57:39 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 13:57:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A Puzzle Message-ID: <380-220078127205739796@earthlink.net> Bill McLeod wrote: "That's about as likely as someone proving that God exists! I don't believe either of us declared that the tag was required by California law." Oops! I beg to differ, Bill, but Larry first raised the issue at "Sent: 8/26/2007 6:40:17 PM" And then 17 minutes later, you replied: ----- Original Message ----- From: wbmcleod To: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com Sent: 8/26/2007 6:57:58 PM Subject: [midgetsprite] Re: A Puzzler It has certainly been a while, but that sure sounds like the tag the state of California used to fasten beside the VIN number to authorize a year of first sale. "As an historian, a newspaperperson and perhaps even as a cop, you should know better than to argue against an assertion that was never put forth!" Oh, but I do, Bill. So correct me if I am wrong, but it would seem that it was you who made that assertion, and I who said there was no evidence for it in California law. Now, about the proof to the contrary? Buster Evans From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Mon Aug 27 15:08:03 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 16:08:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Lance's Lambo found dead on the Edens References: <0b7701c7e8eb$2fe0f8e0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <006401c7e8ee$5c478540$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> Actually Larry, turns out he DOES have some "brains"!! First reported as the driver had flat just LEFT THE SCENE(illegal). Confimed later by I.S.P. that he had in fact called them "right after" (no further info being released by I.S.P. as yet) the "incident". THAT is amazing!! From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon Aug 27 15:25:52 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 14:25:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A Puzzle Message-ID: <380-220078127212552781@earthlink.net> David Doiron wrote: "These tags were applied on MOST of the cars that were processed by "British Motor Cars", the distibutor for the US west coast based in San Francisco." Well, that certainly makes sense! Each state, of course, has its own laws regarding vehicle registration. "Back then", some states went by the year of manufacture, some (for imports) went by the year imported unless it had documentation otherwise, and for homebuilt cars like Johnny Cash's, by the year first registered. "Istill have a tiny box in my roll-away full of little black tags." I suspect they would be coveted by the concours devotees of several marques "As to the crayon markings, I had no dealings with them and cannot help." Most people never saw them because they were hidden from view. Buster Evans From theshoe5 at comcast.net Mon Aug 27 16:20:49 2007 From: theshoe5 at comcast.net (Alan) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:20:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wheeler Dealers References: <009501c7e8ad$38c26a40$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <004201c7e8f8$87098530$6401a8c0@alanu23tkucaxb> Has anyone else see these on YouTube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tgn8udQugXk I've seen the MGBGT and the Mini. Very funny stuff, I'm hooked. I was woundering if they ever did a Midget or a Sprite and were did they air. Alan '59 Sprite From nases at verizon.net Mon Aug 27 16:22:53 2007 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:22:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Cam sprocket nut removal Message-ID: <00a101c7e8f8$d04477f0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> I am replacing the front engine cover on a 1098 engine. I can't budge the cam sproket nut. The washer tab is bent flat but the nut won't move. Any tips? Thanks. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Aug 27 16:31:16 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:31:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Cam sprocket nut removal References: <00a101c7e8f8$d04477f0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> Message-ID: <000401c7e8f9$fbba74b0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> The blue wrench, of course! Direct the handy propane torch flame to the nut, avoiding the cam. When the oil residue starts to really stink, go for it. Glen >I am replacing the front engine cover on a 1098 engine. I can't budge the > cam sproket nut. The washer tab is bent flat but the nut won't move. > Any > tips? > > Thanks. > > Phil Nase > Quakertown, PA From millerls at ado13.com Mon Aug 27 16:35:12 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:35:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] steering rack References: <007501c7e8e2$eadea060$c09be120$@com> Message-ID: <005801c7e8fa$8866b950$d280bc43@HP> My problem was the gaskets that wrap around the tube were too thin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: "'Spridgets'" Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 12:46 PM Subject: [Spridgets] steering rack > On my street car. > > > > Any bright ideas as to why my steering rack can move side to side? (Yes, I > will take a serious look at it over the weekend. just wondering if anyone > else had seen this.) > > > > > > Wm. Severin Thompson > > ~iii Message-ID: <479422.19693.qm@web50612.mail.re2.yahoo.com> So is there a map or chart to tell what is a good curve to suit certain mods? what i'm asking is, can I reap the benefits of someone elses expensive dyno time and just order a curve to suit certain mods: like a 270' cam, LCB & dellorto and maybe slightly higher CR ( havent checked the combustion volume and done the sums yet) I noticed that MM sells a pertronix fitted 25D distributor for $200. Anyone tried one of those? They have a table of the advance curve on the website. I dunno but I expect it is stock. (max 12' diz advance all in by 3000rpm) Can 123 distributors fit in sprites? (i probably should direct that question to the (RHD) brits and australians.) Andy derf wrote: I agree. An otherwise wonderfully tuned car without a good dizzy curve is little better than a car with stock tuning. A-series dizzies have much room for improvement in the advance curve tuning department. Cheers, Derf _______________________________________________ a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Feel safe with award winning spam protection on Yahoo!7 Mail. Find out more. From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon Aug 27 17:12:37 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 16:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Distributors In-Reply-To: <479422.19693.qm@web50612.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <5f00d9910708271141o677c44cbsba9b405756df777a@mail.gmail.com> <479422.19693.qm@web50612.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <75f0a13d64a126d8ade0a.20070827161237.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Andy, Do you have an old 25D laying around. Just call Jeff at Advanced Distributors and tell him what cam, CR, displacement, etc. and he will curve the distributor for your needs. He also will install a Pertronix if you want one. Very reasonable and great work. No financial interest, just a satisfied customer. He rebuilt a BN2 distributor for me and recommended I replace the innards with 25D parts because the old BN2 distributor holds the advance too long after the car is back at idle. Who knew? He even made an old distributor look pretty again. http://www.advanceddistributors.com/ Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Andy Webster > So is there a map or chart to tell what is a good curve to suit certain > mods? > > what i'm asking is, can I reap the benefits of someone elses expensive > dyno time and just order a curve to suit certain mods: like a 270' cam, > LCB & dellorto and maybe slightly higher CR ( havent checked the > combustion volume and done the sums yet) > > I noticed that MM sells a pertronix fitted 25D distributor for $200. > Anyone tried one of those? They have a table of the advance curve on the > website. I dunno but I expect it is stock. (max 12' diz advance all in > by 3000rpm) > > Can 123 distributors fit in sprites? (i probably should direct that > question to the (RHD) brits and australians.) > > Andy > > derf wrote: > I agree. An otherwise wonderfully tuned car without a good dizzy > curve is little better than a car with stock tuning. > A-series dizzies have much room for improvement in the advance curve > tuning department. > Cheers, > Derf > _______________________________________________ > a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > --------------------------------- > Feel safe with award winning spam protection on Yahoo!7 Mail. Find out > more. > _______________________________________________ > rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Aug 27 17:36:05 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:36:05 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] steering rack In-Reply-To: <005801c7e8fa$8866b950$d280bc43@HP> References: <007501c7e8e2$eadea060$c09be120$@com> <005801c7e8fa$8866b950$d280bc43@HP> Message-ID: <5f00d9910708271636o149cee02p4567ae362c71949a@mail.gmail.com> On 8/27/07, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > My problem was the gaskets that wrap around the tube were too thin. > Mo$$ parts? From millerls at ado13.com Mon Aug 27 18:06:05 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:06:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] steering rack References: <007501c7e8e2$eadea060$c09be120$@com> <005801c7e8fa$8866b950$d280bc43@HP> <5f00d9910708271636o149cee02p4567ae362c71949a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <012101c7e907$3acaa370$d280bc43@HP> Probably. ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "Larry & Sandi Miller" Cc: "Wm. Severin Thompson" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] steering rack > On 8/27/07, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: >> My problem was the gaskets that wrap around the tube were too thin. >> > Mo$$ parts? From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Mon Aug 27 17:22:05 2007 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 16:22:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] ahh, the old angle iron bodged together thrick Message-ID: <267901c7e901$14d2b1e0$0e6a010a@mail2world.com> I like the oh-so-70's shag carpeting and complementing couch-button door panels. Ick! -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Wm. Severin Thompson [wsthompson at thicko.com] Sent: 8/27/2007 8:47:04 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] ahh, the old angle iron bodged together thrick item number 290154451556 From kidjoevid at yahoo.com Mon Aug 27 18:51:22 2007 From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com (Joe Lansing) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:51:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Dizzy spindle boss In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <283031.28365.qm@web33201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just got back from the builder/machinists shop and nobody there could believe it. No answers. They put it together, but if I can't pinpoint cause of failure, and they can't and nobody on this list can, then who do I blame...BMC? Donald Healey? My machinist/builder? I assembled things after he did the short block, and I spun it numerous times before putting the pan on, after the pan, after the head etc ad infinitum. No interference at any time... So it's 6-8 weeks for a new engine... Thanks, Joe > More importantly, what does your engine builder > think happened, Joe? > > Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Mon Aug 27 19:10:02 2007 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Steering Rack. Message-ID: <994587.19786.qm@web34201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I had this happen to Bugsy when I replaced the rack. A couple of pieces of bicycle inner tube glued to both sides of clamps for the rack fixed the problem. Be sure to use a bottoming tap to clean the threads out. Those are aluminum pieces in there. Follow the torque specs. Jim Gruber Bugsy '68 Sprite (future Bugeye in disguise) Cincinnati, OH --------------------------------- Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Aug 27 19:42:50 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:42:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Crashing the list looking for Frank Message-ID: <03b501c7e914$bef8e9b0$0201a8c0@midget> Sorry about this, but I was trying to send an email to Frank and got rejected because I am not in his list of acceptable people. Frank, could I send you an email, Please? David Lieb From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Aug 27 19:50:27 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:50:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Little part needed Message-ID: <754820.42520.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Finishing race prep on White Trash, the latest addition to the "sh!t that fell off the car last race" is the little breather fitting on the real axle housing. Anyone have one on an old axle taking up space? I should be able to replenish it in the not so near future. TIA, Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Aug 27 19:53:37 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:53:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Little part needed In-Reply-To: <754820.42520.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <335181.34764.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > is the little breather fitting on the real axle That's "rear" axle. From p.herder at cox.net Mon Aug 27 20:08:37 2007 From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:08:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Lance's Lambo found dead on the Edens In-Reply-To: <006401c7e8ee$5c478540$6501a8c0@actualshop> References: <0b7701c7e8eb$2fe0f8e0$6401a8c0@Larry> <006401c7e8ee$5c478540$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <003901c7e918$58886850$099938f0$@herder@cox.net> Sounds like that actor that crashed a Ferrari Enzo ... when asked about what happened he replied "Brother can't drive". BTW, all the news sites are reporting he is facing misdemeanor charges for leaving the scene of the accident. Probably a better charge then to face a breathalyzer test I would guess. -----Original Message----- <> Actually Larry, turns out he DOES have some "brains"!! First reported as the driver had flat just LEFT THE SCENE(illegal). Confimed later by I.S.P. that he had in fact called them "right after" (no further info being released by I.S.P. as yet) the "incident". THAT is amazing!! From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Mon Aug 27 20:15:07 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:15:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] spotted: Sprite, red with white hard top, southbound on i43? Message-ID: <8a336b9d0708271915p386f1a7bw330fafe2ab34e554@mail.gmail.com> Today around 4:30 pm, west Milwaukee. Quebec plates. gentleman of a larger stature. Any of you all? That thing looked sooo unbearably small among the commuters. -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Aug 27 20:17:29 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:17:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] spotted: Sprite, red with white hard top, southbound on i43? References: <8a336b9d0708271915p386f1a7bw330fafe2ab34e554@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <03c501c7e919$96036e90$0201a8c0@midget> > Today around 4:30 pm, west Milwaukee. Quebec plates. gentleman of a > larger stature. Any of you all? That thing looked sooo unbearably > small among the commuters. This from the guy who commutes on a Honda Metropolitan scooter? WST From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Mon Aug 27 20:19:08 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:19:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] spotted: Sprite, red with white hard top, southbound on i43? In-Reply-To: <03c501c7e919$96036e90$0201a8c0@midget> References: <8a336b9d0708271915p386f1a7bw330fafe2ab34e554@mail.gmail.com> <03c501c7e919$96036e90$0201a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0708271919n452a9dc3vfc2e5c271c73ff7d@mail.gmail.com> Hey, how did matt roloff get in dave's email? and i was driving the mazda 6. I think i actually passed completely over the sprite before i felt the thud. On 8/27/07, David Lieb wrote: > > Today around 4:30 pm, west Milwaukee. Quebec plates. gentleman of a > > larger stature. Any of you all? That thing looked sooo unbearably > > small among the commuters. > > This from the guy who commutes on a Honda Metropolitan scooter? > WST > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Mon Aug 27 20:28:12 2007 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 12:28:12 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] valve guides In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <92665.4397.qm@web50608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> They were there when i pulled it apart, and I remember them being in my 1098 bottom end too. Thumbnail sized and shaped, supposed to be bent over the bolt head after torquing the bolt. I bought 2 types from 2 stores, 1 was symmetrical, 1 was not symmetrical, both sucked. The material is too soft, and the holes drilled too close to the straight edge so it cant butt up against the flat edge of the bearing cap when the bolt is in place... meaning that one tiny corner of the tab bears all the rotational force of torquing the bolt, and eventually folds up, allowing the tab to rotate with the bolt and causing much swearing and annoyance. A local mini guru told me yesterday (as I was showing off my new ARP studs) that he leaves the tabs out and always uses some loctite. ( he has a very intereting engine project cooking at the moment.... a DOHC A-series with a choice of 8 or 16 valves) andy Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: I didn't think lock tabs were ever used with main bearing bolts for the reasons that you have discovered? --------------------------------- Sick of deleting your inbox? Yahoo!7 Mail has free unlimited storage. Get it now. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Aug 27 20:34:40 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:34:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Crashing the list looking for Frank In-Reply-To: <03b501c7e914$bef8e9b0$0201a8c0@midget> References: <03b501c7e914$bef8e9b0$0201a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <43840a7e0708271934q40acbfb5udce6a53bc9a7b8dd@mail.gmail.com> It's the word "Chicago" in your email address, David. All Jersey Wops reject email from people in Chicago.... ;-) Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City On 8/27/07, David Lieb wrote: > Sorry about this, but I was trying to send an email to Frank and got > rejected because I am not in his list of acceptable people. > Frank, could I send you an email, Please? > David Lieb From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Aug 27 20:43:45 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:43:45 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spridgets] spotted: Sprite, red with white hard top, southbound on i43? In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0708271915p386f1a7bw330fafe2ab34e554@mail.gmail.com> References: <8a336b9d0708271915p386f1a7bw330fafe2ab34e554@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1133.76.238.18.52.1188269025.squirrel@www.thicko.com> Let's just say your Beat Racing blue Mazda was spotted... > Today around 4:30 pm, west Milwaukee. Quebec plates. gentleman of a > larger stature. Any of you all? That thing looked sooo unbearably > small among the commuters. > > -- > http://btdtracing.com > 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Mon Aug 27 20:53:11 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:53:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Crashing the list looking for Frank References: <03b501c7e914$bef8e9b0$0201a8c0@midget> <43840a7e0708271934q40acbfb5udce6a53bc9a7b8dd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <016f01c7e91e$92dd5d20$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> Yeah, they just show up on your door step, driving a Jag Saloon, on their way to Madison!! UN-REAL!! No wait, the UN-REAL part was Frank (with the Lady Di) using (and following directions therwefrom) a GPS!!!!! Funny, he didn't need it last time (10 years)!! From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Aug 27 21:06:05 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 22:06:05 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Crashing the list looking for Frank In-Reply-To: <016f01c7e91e$92dd5d20$6501a8c0@actualshop> References: <03b501c7e914$bef8e9b0$0201a8c0@midget> <43840a7e0708271934q40acbfb5udce6a53bc9a7b8dd@mail.gmail.com> <016f01c7e91e$92dd5d20$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <1836.76.238.18.52.1188270365.squirrel@www.thicko.com> Speaking of Frank... any truth to the rumor you're coming out to the Elkhart Lake race mid Sept? Speak to us Frank... > <> > > Yeah, they just show up on your door step, driving a Jag Saloon, on their > way > to Madison!! UN-REAL!! > > No wait, the UN-REAL part was Frank (with the Lady Di) using (and > following > directions therwefrom) a GPS!!!!! > > Funny, he didn't need it last time (10 years)!! From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Mon Aug 27 21:06:32 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 22:06:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] spotted: Sprite, red with white hard top, southbound on i43? In-Reply-To: <1133.76.238.18.52.1188269025.squirrel@www.thicko.com> References: <8a336b9d0708271915p386f1a7bw330fafe2ab34e554@mail.gmail.com> <1133.76.238.18.52.1188269025.squirrel@www.thicko.com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0708272006v47c841a5t6b1cde311996d4c1@mail.gmail.com> Did the gas on your Yamaha Mule run out, Matt Roloff? Where do you store the crutches in a car that small? On 8/27/07, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > Let's just say your Beat Racing blue Mazda was spotted... > > > > Today around 4:30 pm, west Milwaukee. Quebec plates. gentleman of a > > larger stature. Any of you all? That thing looked sooo unbearably > > small among the commuters. > > > > -- > > http://btdtracing.com > > 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata > > > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Mon Aug 27 21:11:56 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 22:11:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] spotted: Sprite, red with white hard top, southbound on i43? In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0708271919n452a9dc3vfc2e5c271c73ff7d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200708280307.l7S375Fn001149@ms-smtp-03.rdc-kc.rr.com> Was it black and red? I didn't see a front plate near 94 and Moorland. New one in my 'hood at least. Sounded good. Chris 66 MKIII 2000 BMW 528 iT On 8/27/07, David Lieb wrote: > > Today around 4:30 pm, west Milwaukee. Quebec plates. gentleman of a > > larger stature. Any of you all? That thing looked sooo unbearably > > small among the commuters. From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Mon Aug 27 21:32:52 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 22:32:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] spotted: Sprite, red with white hard top, southbound on i43? In-Reply-To: <200708280307.l7S375Fn001149@ms-smtp-03.rdc-kc.rr.com> References: <8a336b9d0708271919n452a9dc3vfc2e5c271c73ff7d@mail.gmail.com> <200708280307.l7S375Fn001149@ms-smtp-03.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0708272032w34625806sc4731836c82d9f09@mail.gmail.com> rear plate, didnt see a front. red but a 40 fter, white top. no black that i saw On 8/27/07, Chris Manuel wrote: > Was it black and red? I didn't see a front plate near 94 and Moorland. New > one in my 'hood at least. Sounded good. > > Chris > > 66 MKIII > 2000 BMW 528 iT > > > On 8/27/07, David Lieb wrote: > > > Today around 4:30 pm, west Milwaukee. Quebec plates. gentleman of a > > > larger stature. Any of you all? That thing looked sooo unbearably > > > small among the commuters. > _______________________________________________ -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Aug 27 21:58:19 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:58:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Crashing the list looking for Frank In-Reply-To: <1836.76.238.18.52.1188270365.squirrel@www.thicko.com> Message-ID: <554624.44214.qm@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In light of the recent trip and a large remodeling job back in Jersey, Frank is planning to drive out to Mid Ohio in October instead. I think his email has gone bye-bye for the moment. --- "Wm. Severin Thompson" wrote: > Speaking of Frank... any truth to the rumor you're > coming out to the > Elkhart Lake race mid Sept? Speak to us Frank... ____________________________________________________________________________________ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Aug 27 21:59:51 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:59:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] spotted: Sprite, red with white hard top, southbound on i43? In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0708271915p386f1a7bw330fafe2ab34e554@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <421033.5966.qm@web30515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- "Flash." wrote: > Today around 4:30 pm, west Milwaukee. Quebec > plates. gentleman of a > larger stature. This is too easy - That was no gentleman, that was Flounder. 'hopper From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Aug 27 22:22:47 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 00:22:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Crashing the list looking for Frank In-Reply-To: <03b501c7e914$bef8e9b0$0201a8c0@midget> References: <03b501c7e914$bef8e9b0$0201a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <46D3A317.7070209@comcast.net> David Lieb wrote: > Sorry about this, but I was trying to send an email to Frank and got > rejected because I am not in his list of acceptable people. David Since when? You are in my address book, all emails before worked. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Aug 27 22:36:20 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 00:36:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Record restoration Message-ID: <46D3A644.2090807@comcast.net> Kevin V showed up at my door yesterday, Sunday around 9:00 am with a totally disassembled Midget on a trailer, a pickup truck with 4 fenders, 2 bonnets, a few doors, some patch panels, and a couple of boot lids. We picked the best of the bunch, cut out the A posts, rear dog legs, and some other rusted out areas, welded it up, bondo-ed it up and today (Monday) it is sporting it's second coat of primer and just about ready for paint tomorrow. We do have to sand it down with 320 grit and touch up a few spots with some spot putty but tomorrow it should be "RESALE RED"! Give us til Thursday and all the mechanicals will be finished. We have found that Burger King wrappers take too long so we used Taco Bell wrappers to fil the rust holes this time. Thus the record body work. Kevin is still here but he was worried about getting his 71 Midget in tip top shape for next June and the 50th meet. Well 3 days and it's painted from a typical shell with major rust. It did have good floors and sills so that helped. And his patch panels were bought 8 years ago and made in the UK so THAT was a plus too. Kevin sanded, I cut and welded, Kevin sanded I mixed paint, Kevin sanded, I squirted primer, Kevin sanded, I cleaned up the garage, Kevin sanded, I watched, Kevin sanded I was a gopher,Kevin sanded while I cut up Taco Bell wrappers, Kevin sanded some more and I helped for a change. So if 2 guys can put a Midget together in 2 days and have it ready for paint, why do I keep reading about 1, 2, 5, and 10 year projects? Just do it! Oh yeah, tomorrow while Kevin is sanding, I'll go get the paint. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Aug 28 00:01:17 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 23:01:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Lance's Lambo found dead on the Edens Message-ID: <380-2200782286117218@earthlink.net> Larry Daniel wrote: "And another one from the more-money-than-brains files" Yeah, but what do you want to bet he has to count the money if it is over 10 singles? Buste From Daniel1312 at aol.com Tue Aug 28 03:14:30 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 05:14:30 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Little part needed Message-ID: You could fit a pipe with a pipe fitting nut. In a message dated 28/08/07 02:50:50 GMT Daylight Time, soavero at yahoo.com writes: > Finishing race prep on White Trash, the latest > addition to the "sh!t that fell off the car last race" > is the little breather fitting on the real axle > housing. Anyone have one on an old axle taking up > space? I should be able to replenish it in the not so > near future. > > TIA, > Ron From Daniel1312 at aol.com Tue Aug 28 03:29:24 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 05:29:24 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] valve guides Message-ID: aha a 1098 part, strange territory for me - 6K 927 but Ooops they fitted them to the 1275 as well 12A 1381. I can't see I've seen them - will have to have a look on my Marina & Ital engines to see if they carried on using them. The very last time I tried to use a lock tab was on a diff and while torquing up with a torque wrench for a minute I thought I'd stripped a thread but then saw what was happening to the lock tab. Daniel1312 In a message dated 28/08/07 03:28:18 GMT Daylight Time, a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au writes: > Subj: Re: [Spridgets] valve guides > Date: 28/08/07 03:28:18 GMT Daylight Time > From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au > To: Daniel1312 at aol.com, spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent from the Internet > > > > They were there when i pulled it apart, and I remember them being in my 1098 > bottom end too. > Thumbnail sized and shaped, supposed to be bent over the bolt head after > torquing the bolt. > I bought 2 types from 2 stores, 1 was symmetrical, 1 was not symmetrical, > both sucked. The material is too soft, and the holes drilled too close to the > straight edge so it cant butt up against the flat edge of the bearing cap > when the bolt is in place... meaning that one tiny corner of the tab bears all > the rotational force of torquing the bolt, and eventually folds up, allowing > the tab to rotate with the bolt and causing much swearing and annoyance. > > A local mini guru told me yesterday (as I was showing off my new ARP studs) > that he leaves the tabs out and always uses some loctite. > ( he has a very intereting engine project cooking at the moment.... a DOHC > A-series with a choice of 8 or 16 valves) > andy > > > Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: > > >> I didn't think lock tabs were ever used with main bearing bolts for the >> reasons that you have discovered? From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 28 06:35:45 2007 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 05:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Record restoration In-Reply-To: <46D3A644.2090807@comcast.net> Message-ID: <422407.4237.qm@web36814.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Guess it's a good thing I cleared out your last '71 the day before... Hope to have it registered in NY with historic plates by tomorrow afternoon! - David Frank Clarici wrote: Kevin V showed up at my door yesterday, Sunday around 9:00 am with a totally disassembled Midget on a trailer, a pickup truck with 4 fenders, 2 bonnets, a few doors, some patch panels, and a couple of boot lids. We picked the best of the bunch, cut out the A posts, rear dog legs, and some other rusted out areas, welded it up, bondo-ed it up and today (Monday) it is sporting it's second coat of primer and just about ready for paint tomorrow. We do have to sand it down with 320 grit and touch up a few spots with some spot putty but tomorrow it should be "RESALE RED"! Give us til Thursday and all the mechanicals will be finished. We have found that Burger King wrappers take too long so we used Taco Bell wrappers to fil the rust holes this time. Thus the record body work. Kevin is still here but he was worried about getting his 71 Midget in tip top shape for next June and the 50th meet. Well 3 days and it's painted from a typical shell with major rust. It did have good floors and sills so that helped. And his patch panels were bought 8 years ago and made in the UK so THAT was a plus too. Kevin sanded, I cut and welded, Kevin sanded I mixed paint, Kevin sanded, I squirted primer, Kevin sanded, I cleaned up the garage, Kevin sanded, I watched, Kevin sanded I was a gopher,Kevin sanded while I cut up Taco Bell wrappers, Kevin sanded some more and I helped for a change. So if 2 guys can put a Midget together in 2 days and have it ready for paint, why do I keep reading about 1, 2, 5, and 10 year projects? Just do it! Oh yeah, tomorrow while Kevin is sanding, I'll go get the paint. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ _______________________________________________ tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Aug 28 06:50:26 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 12:50:26 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Distributors In-Reply-To: <479422.19693.qm@web50612.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: >>So is there a map or chart to tell what is a good curve to suit 36-24-36 used to be the standard measure for perfection. Oh wait my mind is somewhere else. On a more serious note, the 123 site has info above their distributors for RHD cars: http://www.tdcperformance.ca/ It doesn't state what nationalisty you have to be. ;) RD >From: Andy Webster > >So is there a map or chart to tell what is a good curve to suit certain >mods? > > Can 123 distributors fit in sprites? (i probably should direct that >question to the (RHD) brits and australians.) > > Andy From John.Deikis at va.gov Tue Aug 28 07:25:09 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:25:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] for the Miata owners that want to be less "sensitive" In-Reply-To: <006301c7e8d9$c78e0870$56aa1950$@com> References: <006301c7e8d9$c78e0870$56aa1950$@com> Message-ID: No windows? No a/c? No friggin' cup holders??!! -----Original Message----- From: Wm. Severin Thompson [mailto:wsthompson at thicko.com] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 2:41 PM To: 'Spridget List' Subject: [Spridgets] for the Miata owners that want to be less "sensitive" http://www.motoamericainc.com/G20.htm Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Aug 28 07:51:26 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 13:51:26 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Record restoration In-Reply-To: <422407.4237.qm@web36814.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: You could probably keep the cost down by using Chinese cardboard instead of Taco Bell wrappers?? :) I guess there's more than a few reasons why you would hear about projects of that length. I would guess that time and money figure into most of them, and 'motivation at the moment' in most. That would be in mine. The main reason for my 7? years on hold Sprite, is that after ( almost ) completely disassembling the Sprite, I found a handyman special house that we wanted and that has occupied those free moments that I used to have a hobby for. In exchange for different priorities, I bought a second LBC to drive. Like you say, though, momentum is a great thing. Once you set your mind to something and take the first step, things do move. One of the expressions that I like goes something like: "The best excuses don't pay the bills.". Back in the old days, I had a neighbour like you. I could go home for a weekend at my parents and drive back with body work done and a fresh respray. And, VERY reasonable also. I bought a paint sprayer attachment for my compressor and oiled my cedar deck. Made me think I could take a shot at painting a car! The oil is very forgiving. RD >Frank Clarici wrote: > Kevin V showed up at my door yesterday, Sunday around 9:00 am with a >totally disassembled Midget on a trailer, a pickup truck with 4 fenders, >2 bonnets, a few doors, some patch panels, and a couple of boot lids. >We picked the best of the bunch, cut out the A posts, rear dog legs, and >some other rusted out areas, welded it up, bondo-ed it up and today >(Monday) it is sporting it's second coat of primer and just about ready >for paint tomorrow. We do have to sand it down with 320 grit and touch >up a few spots with some spot putty but tomorrow it should be "RESALE >RED"! Give us til Thursday and all the mechanicals will be finished. >We have found that Burger King wrappers take too long so we used Taco >Bell wrappers to fil the rust holes this time. Thus the record body work. >Kevin is still here but he was worried about getting his 71 Midget in >tip top shape for next June and the 50th meet. Well 3 days and it's >painted from a typical shell with major rust. It did have good floors >and sills so that helped. And his patch panels were bought 8 years ago >and made in the UK so THAT was a plus too. Kevin sanded, I cut and >welded, Kevin sanded I mixed paint, Kevin sanded, I squirted primer, >Kevin sanded, I cleaned up the garage, Kevin sanded, I watched, Kevin >sanded I was a gopher,Kevin sanded while I cut up Taco Bell wrappers, >Kevin sanded some more and I helped for a change. >So if 2 guys can put a Midget together in 2 days and have it ready for >paint, why do I keep reading about 1, 2, 5, and 10 year projects? >Just do it! >Oh yeah, tomorrow while Kevin is sanding, I'll go get the paint. >-- >Frank Clarici >Toms River, NJ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Aug 28 08:06:55 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:06:55 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] spotted: Sprite, red with white hard top, southbound on i43? In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0708272032w34625806sc4731836c82d9f09@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Quebec has only rear plates. It's a government spending saving method? As a result, there's a lot of custom front plates. RD >From: Flash. >To: "Spridget List" >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] spotted: Sprite, red with white hard top, >southbound on i43? >Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 22:32:52 -0500 > >rear plate, didnt see a front. red but a 40 fter, white top. no >black that i saw > >On 8/27/07, Chris Manuel wrote: > > Was it black and red? I didn't see a front plate near 94 and Moorland. >New > > one in my 'hood at least. Sounded good. > > > > Chris > > > > 66 MKIII > > 2000 BMW 528 iT > > > > > > On 8/27/07, David Lieb wrote: > > > > Today around 4:30 pm, west Milwaukee. Quebec plates. gentleman of >a > > > > larger stature. Any of you all? That thing looked sooo unbearably > > > > small among the commuters. > > _______________________________________________ > > > >-- >http://btdtracing.com >97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata >_______________________________________________ >robertduquette at sympatico.ca > >Edit your replies > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From caws52803 at aol.com Tue Aug 28 08:14:23 2007 From: caws52803 at aol.com (caws52803 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 10:14:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] spotted: Sprite, red with white hard top, southbound on i43? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8C9B794DE145AFC-8EC-999@FWM-D21.sysops.aol.com> NC also just has rear plates, but is considering a front plate.? My Bugeye has no front bumper so there is no place for the plate. Rudy -----Original Message----- From: Robert Duquette To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 10:06 am Subject: Re: [Spridgets] spotted: Sprite, red with white hard top, southbound on i43? Quebec has only rear plates. It's a government spending saving method? As a result, there's a lot of custom front plates. RD >From: Flash. >To: "Spridget List" >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] spotted: Sprite, red with white hard top, >southbound on i43? >Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 22:32:52 -0500 > >rear plate, didnt see a front. red but a 40 fter, white top. no >black that i saw > >On 8/27/07, Chris Manuel wrote: > > Was it black and red? I didn't see a front plate near 94 and Moorland. >New > > one in my 'hood at least. Sounded good. > > > > Chris > > > > 66 MKIII > > 2000 BMW 528 iT > > > > > > On 8/27/07, David Lieb wrote: > > > > Today around 4:30 pm, west Milwaukee. Quebec plates. gentleman of >a > > > > larger stature. Any of you all? That thing looked sooo unbearably > > > > small among the commuters. > > _______________________________________________ > > > >-- >http://btdtracing.com >97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata >_______________________________________________ >robertduquette at sympatico.ca > >Edit your replies > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _______________________________________________ caws52803 at aol.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com From dmg at bossig.com Tue Aug 28 09:08:41 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 08:08:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Record restoration In-Reply-To: <46D3A644.2090807@comcast.net> References: <46D3A644.2090807@comcast.net> Message-ID: <46D3D809.31829.1A3B55@dmg.bossig.com> Being real Dumb. what do you do with the BK/TB wrappers...? How do they fill rust holes and why?? On 28 Aug 2007 at 0:36, Frank Clarici wrote: >> We have found that Burger King wrappers take too long so we used Taco >> Bell wrappers to fil the rust holes this time. Thus the record body >> work. - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From peter at nosimport.com Tue Aug 28 09:25:59 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 10:25:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Record restoration In-Reply-To: <46D3A644.2090807@comcast.net> References: <46D3A644.2090807@comcast.net> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070828102107.03642e58@nosimport.com> At 11:36 PM 8/27/2007, Frank Clarici wrote: >We have found that Burger King wrappers take too long so we used Taco >Bell wrappers to fil the rust holes this time. >-- >Frank Clarici >Toms River, NJ ===================== I wondered whether the change from trans-fats would have an effect. Perhaps we need to write their chemists and insist they change their oil formulations, otherwise, we could probably talk STP into making an additive we could add to the BK Whopper to hasten bondo curing time. Now I hear that Dunkin' Dognuts boxes will be similarly threatened as viable floorboards. Peter C. From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Tue Aug 28 10:06:37 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:06:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Record restoration References: <46D3A644.2090807@comcast.net> <46D3D809.31829.1A3B55@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <000601c7e98d$6a369110$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> When you're filling a surface hole with no access to the backside, the wadded up wrappers stuffed through the hole into the inner space serve as a filler/backing to help support the wad of bondo you shove into the hole until it cures. My PO was pretty high-class. He covered the unwanted antenna hole with a piece of adhesive backed aluminum foil and bondo'ed over the top thinly. Bit of a surprise, but actually a pretty good job. I cut a disc of 18 ga steel and welded it shut properly. Glen > Being real Dumb. what do you do with the BK/TB wrappers...? > How do they fill rust holes and why?? > > On 28 Aug 2007 at 0:36, Frank Clarici wrote: > >>> We have found that Burger King wrappers take too long so we used Taco >>> Bell wrappers to fil the rust holes this time. Thus the record body >>> work. > > - > Dave G > '65 MKIII Sprite From Daniel1312 at aol.com Tue Aug 28 10:15:12 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 12:15:12 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Record restoration Message-ID: In the UK, you might use scrunched up newspaper - it fills the hole so the body filler can stick to something? If you try and fill a hole with just body filler it simply plops on the floor - or so a PO told me. Daniel1312 In a message dated 28/08/07 16:09:51 GMT Daylight Time, dmg at bossig.com writes: > Being real Dumb. what do you do with the BK/TB wrappers...? > How do they fill rust holes and why?? > > On 28 Aug 2007 at 0:36, Frank Clarici wrote: > > >>We have found that Burger King wrappers take too long so we used Taco > >>Bell wrappers to fil the rust holes this time. Thus the record body > >>work. > > - From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Tue Aug 28 10:19:51 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:19:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks Message-ID: <000601c7e98f$42bf0ac0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Another Bondo trick for large open holes you're too lazy or welder-less to fill properly is to take a disc of cardboard slightly larger than the hole and put a knotted string through a hole in the center. Turn the disc on edge to push it through the hole and then using the string, pull the disc up against the backside of the hole. While you continue holding the string, fill in the open space with bondo and hold the string snugly to keep the cardboard backing in place until the bondo firms up. Cut off the string and start sanding. My dad showed me that trick when he made me patch the drywall I put my foot through when my flying kick accidently missed my younger brother. This method is only to be used on a car you plan to sell to a person you will definetely never meet again. Glen From dmg at bossig.com Tue Aug 28 10:23:22 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:23:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Record restoration In-Reply-To: <000601c7e98d$6a369110$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <46D3A644.2090807@comcast.net>, <000601c7e98d$6a369110$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <46D3E98A.13529.5E9820@dmg.bossig.com> Thanks to all who replied.... now I understand ;^) Every day I learn something.... I'll file it with my Old dad's words about "Oatmeal will quiet a noisy gearbox", and "Nylons in the sump will temperarily quieten noisy big-ends!" and a few other things to watch for... :-) On 28 Aug 2007 at 9:06, Glen Byrns wrote: >> > Being real Dumb. what do you do with the BK/TB wrappers...? >> > How do they fill rust holes and why?? - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From lists at woozy.com Tue Aug 28 10:44:21 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 12:44:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Cooling Puzzle Message-ID: <46D450E5.9000402@woozy.com> Hey all, When I got my current '70 Midget back in the spring I had a lot of overheating problems. Since then I've replaced the radiator with a new (non-Chinese) one and replaced the water pump, flushed the cooling system and added an oil cooler. I also retarded the timing somewhat and that seemed to help the most. I didn't use a timing light to set the timing I just did some trial and error fiddling with it to get it to where it would start good and run well. After doing all of that the water temp gauge never went above 7:00 (the cool side of normal). Until today............ A couple of weekends ago our local MC Club had a tech session at the local LBC place on diagnosing engine health and my Midget was one of the two demo cars. We checked oil pressure, vacume readings, did a compression test and a leak down test. The Midget passed with flying colors except that the vacume readings indicated that the timing was retarded and a look at the plugs showed that it was running rich. So today I get out the timing light and set the timing and I adjusted the carbs. When I got done it was purring at idle. Then I looked at the water temperature gauge before turning off the ignition and the needle was pegged at the hot end of the gauge. I didn't advance the timing *that* much. I maybe rotated the dizzy body 3/32" - 1/8" (no click adjuster on this dizzy). Is this just a coincidence that it overheated when I advanced the ignition sightly? Or could there be some underlying problem that I'm missing that is causing it to overheat when the timing is set to spec ? Thanks, Robert From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Aug 28 11:24:29 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:24:29 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Record restoration In-Reply-To: Message-ID: After the fish and chips are removed, right? :) >From: Daniel1312 at aol.com >To: dmg at bossig.com, spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Record restoration >Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 12:15:12 EDT > >In the UK, you might use scrunched up newspaper - it fills the hole so the >body filler can stick to something? If you try and fill a hole with just >body >filler it simply plops on the floor - or so a PO told me. > >Daniel1312 From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Aug 28 11:33:19 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 10:33:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Record restoration In-Reply-To: <000601c7e98d$6a369110$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: There used to be a guy who worked in the Pep Boys parking lot. He'd do your whole car for $60, even if the lower parts were rusted off. He used to duct tape balloons into the deep dents and Bondo over them. I had to drag our bass player out of the parking lot because he thought it was the deal of a lifetime. BZ From dmg at bossig.com Tue Aug 28 11:36:07 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 10:36:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Cooling Puzzle In-Reply-To: <46D450E5.9000402@woozy.com> References: <46D450E5.9000402@woozy.com> Message-ID: <46D3FA97.20236.A12F0F@dmg.bossig.com> Just a thought. Have you re-tuned the carbs?? Advancing the timing has the effect of leaning the mixture. Lean mixtures run hot! Dave G. From sgregson at telus.net Tue Aug 28 12:27:16 2007 From: sgregson at telus.net (sgregson at telus.net) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 11:27:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Gear box 1969 Midge In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1188325636.46d46904eef3d@webmail.telus.net> It seems I no longer have 1st gear and reverse is about to go too...is it worth trying to find a used one on the internet - or rather just go right to the mechanic and ask him to do the whole job of replacement? From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Aug 28 12:39:49 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 13:39:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Gear box 1969 Midge In-Reply-To: <1188325636.46d46904eef3d@webmail.telus.net> References: <1188325636.46d46904eef3d@webmail.telus.net> Message-ID: <003001c7e9a2$d2f6c570$78e45050$@com> Where do you live? My guy's in West Bend... does all my racecar boxes...Sprite trans are shippable... -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of sgregson at telus.net Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 1:27 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Gear box 1969 Midge It seems I no longer have 1st gear and reverse is about to go too...is it worth trying to find a used one on the internet - or rather just go right to the mechanic and ask him to do the whole job of replacement? From lists at woozy.com Tue Aug 28 12:53:19 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:53:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Cooling Puzzle In-Reply-To: <46D3FA97.20236.A12F0F@dmg.bossig.com> References: <46D450E5.9000402@woozy.com> <46D3FA97.20236.A12F0F@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <46D46F1F.8010809@woozy.com> Thanks, I did retune the carbs. It was idling a long time while I was doing the timing and carbs and it is really hot here today. After the engine cooled I noticed that the coolant was low. There may be a small leak from a hose clamp somewhere. I had pulled the engine to do the transmission swap and maybe the clamps just need to be double checked. I dialed back the advance slightly and topped it up with water and drove it to the muffler place to have the new glasspack installed. No overheating on that trip which was about 30 miles roundtrip. Thanks again, Robert Dave G. wrote: > Just a thought. > Have you re-tuned the carbs?? > Advancing the timing has the effect of leaning the mixture. > Lean mixtures run hot! > > Dave G. > _______________________________________________ > lists at woozy.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From Daniel1312 at aol.com Tue Aug 28 14:25:13 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:25:13 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Record restoration Message-ID: Sadly, and probably due a European law they have to be sold in brand new paper nowadays. In a message dated 28/08/07 18:24:59 GMT Daylight Time, robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes: > After the fish and chips are removed, right? :) From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Aug 28 14:31:27 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 13:31:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] They'll break your heart... Message-ID: <380-220078228203127671@earthlink.net> If you want to cry a little, take a look at the third frame of these shots of the Minnesota floods. The rest will make you give thanks. http://sevenels.net/flood/07flood.html Buster From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Aug 28 15:37:42 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:37:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1965 Midget for Sale Message-ID: <006f01c7e9bb$ab3baf00$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> I just got a call from a guy who is looking to sell his 1965 MG Midget Mark II. As you probably know, these were the transitional years when they had the nice smooth 1098 engine, the stowable top and the roll-up windows. If they had only used round wheel arches, I would be looking for one myself. He is the third owner, but he still has the original title from the car as well as the original tonneau (which still fits!). It has been completely reconditioned including the 1098 engine and transmission. White with a black interior with the white piping. New top. Guy is getting old and wants to downsize to just an MGA and an MGB. Really wants to find someone who will care about the car. NADA claims the car should be worth $9,100; he would like to see $7,000. Anybody interested should give Mike Smith a call at (630) 553-3269. NFI, etc. David Lieb 1972 RWA Midget From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Aug 28 16:05:51 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:05:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1965 Midget for Sale In-Reply-To: <006f01c7e9bb$ab3baf00$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <006f01c7e9bb$ab3baf00$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <000c01c7e9bf$9ab643d0$d022cb70$@com> Just returned from my trip to IL publicized recently, and despite sitting in 2 separate 1/2 hour construction delays, and driving 70 mph the rest of the time, my MKIII Sprite, the equivalent of what's for sale below, returned 38 mpg. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 4:38 PM To: Spridget List Subject: [Spridgets] 1965 Midget for Sale I just got a call from a guy who is looking to sell his 1965 MG Midget Mark II. As you probably know, these were the transitional years when they had the nice smooth 1098 engine, the stowable top and the roll-up windows. If they had only used round wheel arches, I would be looking for one myself. He is the third owner, but he still has the original title from the car as well as the original tonneau (which still fits!). It has been completely reconditioned including the 1098 engine and transmission. White with a black interior with the white piping. New top. Guy is getting old and wants to downsize to just an MGA and an MGB. Really wants to find someone who will care about the car. NADA claims the car should be worth $9,100; he would like to see $7,000. Anybody interested should give Mike Smith a call at (630) 553-3269. NFI, etc. David Lieb 1972 RWA Midget From mconn2 at bright.net Tue Aug 28 16:23:48 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:23:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks References: <000601c7e98f$42bf0ac0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <004c01c7e9c2$1b741c70$7a34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> List. The stories about how to fill in holes in our spridgets are really quite depressing, don't you think. Surely it's much more satisfying to do the job properly (i.e. buy replacement panels or whatever). The first e-mail or so depressed me, so I'm just hitting delete now. We're to preserve our LBC's are we not? Don't send me e-mails full of abuse, I'll just hit delete every time I see one. Sorry, feel a bit serious about this topic (not to mention depressed)! Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen Byrns" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 12:19 PM Subject: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks > Another Bondo trick for large open holes you're too lazy or welder-less to > fill properly is to take a disc of cardboard slightly larger than the hole > and > put a knotted string through a hole in the center. Turn the disc on edge > to > push it through the hole and then using the string, pull the disc up > against > the backside of the hole. While you continue holding the string, fill in > the > open space with bondo and hold the string snugly to keep the cardboard > backing > in place until the bondo firms up. Cut off the string and start sanding. > > My dad showed me that trick when he made me patch the drywall I put my > foot > through when my flying kick accidently missed my younger brother. This > method > is only to be used on a car you plan to sell to a person you will > definetely > never meet again. > > Glen > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From Daniel1312 at aol.com Tue Aug 28 16:28:44 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:28:44 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] 1965 Midget for Sale Message-ID: That's what you get for not having a 5-speed - just think the same noise but 20mph faster. In a message dated 28/08/07 23:06:29 GMT Daylight Time, wsthompson at thicko.com writes: > and driving 70 mph the rest of the > time, my MKIII Sprite, From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Aug 28 16:34:11 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:34:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks In-Reply-To: <004c01c7e9c2$1b741c70$7a34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> References: <000601c7e98f$42bf0ac0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <004c01c7e9c2$1b741c70$7a34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <001301c7e9c3$902fe160$b08fa420$@com> Michael, The Burger King wrapper story is part of a running joke between Frank and I. While there are plenty of hacks out there in body shops that might wad up their sandwich wrapper from lunch and stuff it in a rust hole and fling bondo at it from 5' away... we are not advocating that for Spridget preservation. It is amazing when you become an automotive archeologist and take some of these nearly 50 year old cars down to bare metal to see the horrors of past body shop transgressions. WST -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Conn Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 5:24 PM To: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks List. The stories about how to fill in holes in our spridgets are really quite depressing, don't you think. Surely it's much more satisfying to do the job properly (i.e. buy replacement panels or whatever). The first e-mail or so depressed me, so I'm just hitting delete now. We're to preserve our LBC's are we not? Don't send me e-mails full of abuse, I'll just hit delete every time I see one. Sorry, feel a bit serious about this topic (not to mention depressed)! Michael From Daniel1312 at aol.com Tue Aug 28 16:34:12 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:34:12 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Looking under the bonnet Message-ID: Hi list, Had to use the Sprite to collect some bags of sand and cement today on account of only having 1 car in the household. I was pleasantly suprised the youngish (well compared to me) guys in the yard were interested in my Sprite. We quickly established the spinners weren't quite like James Bond's (must find something else to sell so I can get the 3 eared spinners) and then they asked to look under the bonnet. I can't remember the last time anyone asked to see under the bonnet - usually I ask them if they want to have a look - especially now I have a proper oil catch tank (#150 and worth every penny). I just felt encouraged that anyone under the age of 30 if not 25 are still interested in old cars. Daniel1312 From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Aug 28 16:41:02 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:41:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks In-Reply-To: <001301c7e9c3$902fe160$b08fa420$@com> References: <000601c7e98f$42bf0ac0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <004c01c7e9c2$1b741c70$7a34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <001301c7e9c3$902fe160$b08fa420$@com> Message-ID: When we took the 68 in to be reworked, they found bullet holes in the rear quarter. I still have that panel hanging in the parts shed. When I was back in the town where I originally bought the car, I stopped in to see the guy I got it from (his wife actually). I was showing photos of the car in the process of restoration. She left the room, and would not return. I often wonder if she was mad that we were doing something to the car that they wouldn't/couldn't do. Anyway, I asked the guy about the bullet holes. He hollered back to his wife "Honey, do you know anything about bullet holes in the car?" She yells back "My ex had it in Tennessee for a few years, and he grew marijuana for Christ's sake". I never really knew what THAT had to do with the f'n bullet holes, but that conversation still sticks with me.... Now that the motor is going back together, would it be in poor taste to stop in and visit again, on my way to Lake of the Ozarks? It IS along the way. On 8/28/07, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > Michael, > > The Burger King wrapper story is part of a running joke between Frank and I. > While there are plenty of hacks out there in body shops that might wad up > their sandwich wrapper from lunch and stuff it in a rust hole and fling > bondo at it from 5' away... we are not advocating that for Spridget > preservation. > > It is amazing when you become an automotive archeologist and take some of > these nearly 50 year old cars down to bare metal to see the horrors of past > body shop transgressions. > > WST > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > Michael Conn > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 5:24 PM > To: spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks > > List. > > The stories about how to fill in holes in our spridgets are really quite > depressing, don't you think. Surely it's much more satisfying to do the > job properly (i.e. buy replacement panels or whatever). The first e-mail > or so depressed me, so I'm just hitting delete now. We're to preserve our > LBC's are we not? Don't send me e-mails full of abuse, I'll just hit > delete every time I see one. > > Sorry, feel a bit serious about this topic (not to mention depressed)! > > Michael > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Aug 28 16:39:53 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:39:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks In-Reply-To: <001301c7e9c3$902fe160$b08fa420$@com> References: <000601c7e98f$42bf0ac0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <004c01c7e9c2$1b741c70$7a34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <001301c7e9c3$902fe160$b08fa420$@com> Message-ID: <46D4A439.3010900@comcast.net> Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > Michael, > > The Burger King wrapper story is part of a running joke between Frank and I. And it's NOT Burger King, it's TACO BELL! Yeah, can't anybody take a joke these days? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Aug 28 16:47:08 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:47:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks In-Reply-To: <46D4A439.3010900@comcast.net> References: <000601c7e98f$42bf0ac0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <004c01c7e9c2$1b741c70$7a34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <001301c7e9c3$902fe160$b08fa420$@com> <46D4A439.3010900@comcast.net> Message-ID: <001f01c7e9c5$5f5c92c0$1e15b840$@com> Yes, the foil content of the Taco Bell wrappers gives at least 4 hours more rust protection to the bondo plug than the paper wrapper of the Burger Kings. There's an awful lot of body shops that still do stuff like that... just slather some of today's exceptional fillers with tiger hair, etc. in them (no, no tigers were killed in the making of this bondo), and are confident to give you a 2 year "rust through" guarantee. The bondo usually pops out of the rust crater in 731 days, or in the case of the Taco Bell wrapper, 731 days + 4 hours. -----Original Message----- From: Frank Clarici [mailto:spritenut at comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 5:40 PM To: Wm. Severin Thompson Cc: 'Michael Conn'; 'spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > Michael, > > The Burger King wrapper story is part of a running joke between Frank and I. And it's NOT Burger King, it's TACO BELL! Yeah, can't anybody take a joke these days? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Tue Aug 28 17:00:23 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:00:23 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks References: <000601c7e98f$42bf0ac0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <004c01c7e9c2$1b741c70$7a34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <000c01c7e9c7$37878320$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Don't take it too seriously Michael. Most of us are relating things we have found done by Previous Owners, God bless them all. It would be great if we all had the skills/equipment/money to swap out every dented panel, use only lead filler applied by a true "artiste" or hire top professionals for our restorations. But reality varies owner by owner. Even a taco-wrapper under a slug of Bondo beats a giant untended rust hole that sends another LBC to the crusher. Besides, it gives us an entire class of people to berate and demean on the list. Also a bunch of "can you top this?" DPO stories for when we meet. Most of us would never do any of these terrible things to our treasured little Spridgets. But for a dented Triumph however.............. Glen > List. > > The stories about how to fill in holes in our spridgets are really quite > depressing, don't you think. Surely it's much more satisfying to do the > job properly (i.e. buy replacement panels or whatever). The first e-mail > or so depressed me, so I'm just hitting delete now. We're to preserve > our > LBC's are we not? Don't send me e-mails full of abuse, I'll just hit > delete every time I see one. > > Sorry, feel a bit serious about this topic (not to mention depressed)! > > Michael From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Aug 28 17:16:57 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:16:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Record restoration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46D4ACE9.80605@earthlink.net> Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: "Sadly, and probably due a European law they have to be sold in brand new paper nowadays." Bloody Brussels bureaucrats! What Yank can forget their first fish and chips with mushy peas swaddled in The Guardian! (Don't they know that is where the epithet "fish wrapper" originated when referring to a newspaper?) Buster Evans From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Aug 28 17:19:49 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:19:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks Message-ID: <380-220078228231949234@earthlink.net> Michael wrote: "The stories about how to fill in holes in our spridgets are really quite depressing, don't you think. Surely it's much more satisfying to do the job properly (i.e. buy replacement panels or whatever)." That is all fine and well if an owner 1) can afford the $200 for, say, a door skin, 2) can find that the body panels are even available, 3) can afford the equipment, 4) has the skills necessary for the work, or 5) has the time and place for the work. In 1961, my brother smashed the right front end of my Bugeye, and as a poor sailor I had no alternative to Bondo and match the paint as closely as possible. That car provided me incredible fun, pleasure, and transportation just like that for decades. Only a year and a half ago did the work get done properly. My Sprite has never been, nor will ever be a trailer queen concours car. It has will and will forever be just what it was designed to deliver: fun, pleasure, and transportation. It is the preservation of the marque that is important! I would much rather see Frank and Kevin do a quick restoration than have a car go to the grinder. We all know that those two are not doing it for the money, but to keep them on the road. Buster Evans From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Aug 28 17:27:17 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:27:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks Message-ID: <380-220078228232717484@earthlink.net> WST wrote: "It is amazing when you become an automotive archeologist and take some of these nearly 50 year old cars down to bare metal to see the horrors of past body shop transgressions." Like the Bugeye I once bought that had 1/8" wall paneling as backing for Bondo, as well as replacing the rusted-out footwell panel? Buste From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Aug 28 17:29:47 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:29:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking under the bonnet Message-ID: <380-22007822823294746@earthlink.net> Daniel1312 wrote: "I just felt encouraged that anyone under the age of 30 if not 25 are still interested in old cars." Tell them to come to California where I can find a decent car for them to restore!!! Buste From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Aug 28 17:29:47 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:29:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking under the bonnet Message-ID: <380-22007822823294762@earthlink.net> Daniel1312 wrote: "I just felt encouraged that anyone under the age of 30 if not 25 are still interested in old cars." Tell them to come to California where I can find a decent car for them to restore!!! Buste From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Aug 28 17:34:33 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:34:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks In-Reply-To: <380-220078228232717484@earthlink.net> References: <380-220078228232717484@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <002c01c7e9cb$fe8bb4b0$fba31e10$@com> I can recall showing up to my first AHCA meeting in 1974, as an 18 year old kid, with my California BN6 big Healey. It was/is (still have it) rust free. Somewhere in San Bernadino in the 60's, the car got the sweetest 1" fender flares shaped into the original steel. It also had Shelby aluminum slotted wheels, and a side exhaust. Some club asshole comes up, looks it over, and announces , "You ruined that car. You RUINED that car!" I say something to the effect of, "ok, dickhead... where's your car?" He points to his car. As I look it over, I discover he's sheet metal screwed road signs in as floors. I pointed to that, and said, " I ruined my car?" -----Original Message----- From: Robert Bruce Evans [mailto:b-evans at earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 6:27 PM To: Wm. Severin Thompson; Michael Conn; Spridgets Subject: Re: was record resto, now Bondo tricks WST wrote: "It is amazing when you become an automotive archeologist and take some of these nearly 50 year old cars down to bare metal to see the horrors of past body shop transgressions." Like the Bugeye I once bought that had 1/8" wall paneling as backing for Bondo, as well as replacing the rusted-out footwell panel? Buste From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Aug 28 17:37:51 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:37:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks Message-ID: <380-220078228233751734@earthlink.net> Brad Fornal: "I never really knew what THAT had to do with the f'n bullet holes, but that conversation still sticks with me...." Well, there was a time when such oddities could once in a while be found in cars back in East and Southeast Tennessee. Until at least the early 60s, 'shine was still big business. (Was it Junior Johnson who once upon a time told a similar tale?) Now, perhaps, pot has replaced 'shine. Buster From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Aug 28 17:44:10 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:44:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] cars is in "Mechanicsville" Message-ID: <003601c7e9cd$56e23020$04a69060$@com> Town name is a bit of misnomer, wouldn't you say? Ebay item numb300145924667 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-Midget-RARE-1975-MG-MIDGET-RACE-CAR-V8-TUB BED-OUT-ROLL-CAGE_W0QQitemZ300145924667QQihZ020QQcategoryZ31859QQssPageNameZ WDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Item number 300145924667 Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Aug 28 17:44:52 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:44:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks Message-ID: <380-220078228234452906@earthlink.net> Glyn Byrns wrote: "Besides, it gives us an entire class of people to berate and demean on the list. Also a bunch of "can you top this?" DPO stories for when we meet." You better be very, very careful where you tread, Glyn. You are getting dangerously close to hurting the feelings of us DOO's, you know. Buster From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Aug 28 18:02:13 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 20:02:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks In-Reply-To: <002c01c7e9cb$fe8bb4b0$fba31e10$@com> References: <380-220078228232717484@earthlink.net> <002c01c7e9cb$fe8bb4b0$fba31e10$@com> Message-ID: <46D4B785.3080502@comcast.net> Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > I can recall showing up to my first AHCA meeting in 1974, > with my California BN6 big Healey. Damn Flounder, I learned something today. I never knew Healeys were made in California. I thought they all came from England. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Aug 28 18:12:48 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:12:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks In-Reply-To: <46D4B785.3080502@comcast.net> References: <380-220078228232717484@earthlink.net> <002c01c7e9cb$fe8bb4b0$fba31e10$@com> <46D4B785.3080502@comcast.net> Message-ID: <003c01c7e9d1$56a159c0$03e40d40$@com> Hey, we know the bulk of your big Healey was made in Jersey, with the best Chinese parts. -----Original Message----- From: Frank Clarici [mailto:spritenut at comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 7:02 PM To: Wm. Severin Thompson Cc: 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > I can recall showing up to my first AHCA meeting in 1974, > with my California BN6 big Healey. Damn Flounder, I learned something today. I never knew Healeys were made in California. I thought they all came from England. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Tue Aug 28 18:15:00 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:15:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks References: <380-220078228233751734@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <03e101c7e9d1$a6531d50$6601a8c0@actualshop> <<(Was it Junior Johnson who once upon a time told a similar tale?)>> Several Buster, Serveral!!!!!! From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Aug 28 18:17:33 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:17:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] cars is in "Mechanicsville" In-Reply-To: <003601c7e9cd$56e23020$04a69060$@com> References: <003601c7e9cd$56e23020$04a69060$@com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910708281717u3bf534d6u94f80e4d4bea6f91@mail.gmail.com> Well, you can't call a town "Deathtrapsville", can you? On 8/28/07, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > Town name is a bit of misnomer, wouldn't you say? From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Aug 28 18:17:44 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 20:17:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks In-Reply-To: <003c01c7e9d1$56a159c0$03e40d40$@com> References: <380-220078228232717484@earthlink.net> <002c01c7e9cb$fe8bb4b0$fba31e10$@com> <46D4B785.3080502@comcast.net> <003c01c7e9d1$56a159c0$03e40d40$@com> Message-ID: <46D4BB28.5030905@comcast.net> Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > Hey, we know the bulk of your big Healey was made in Jersey, with the best > Chinese parts. No chinese parts on my BRITISH cars. So are you saying all these restored moss Healeys are chinese healeys? No wonder none of them are selling. I sold mine :) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From mconn2 at bright.net Tue Aug 28 18:22:14 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 20:22:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks References: <000601c7e98f$42bf0ac0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <004c01c7e9c2$1b741c70$7a34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <001301c7e9c3$902fe160$b08fa420$@com> Message-ID: <000601c7e9d2$a6db6ab0$7a34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Wm., I think that's the depressinbg part. I'm working on having my AN5 painted, and I'm dreading what will be found! Do you know what I mean? Oh, dear. Woe is me. Builds character, I guess. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: "'Michael Conn'" ; "'spridgets'" Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 6:34 PM Subject: RE: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks > Michael, > > The Burger King wrapper story is part of a running joke between Frank and > I. > While there are plenty of hacks out there in body shops that might wad up > their sandwich wrapper from lunch and stuff it in a rust hole and fling > bondo at it from 5' away... we are not advocating that for Spridget > preservation. > > It is amazing when you become an automotive archeologist and take some of > these nearly 50 year old cars down to bare metal to see the horrors of > past > body shop transgressions. > > WST > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf > Of > Michael Conn > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 5:24 PM > To: spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks > > List. > > The stories about how to fill in holes in our spridgets are really quite > depressing, don't you think. Surely it's much more satisfying to do the > job properly (i.e. buy replacement panels or whatever). The first e-mail > or so depressed me, so I'm just hitting delete now. We're to preserve > our > LBC's are we not? Don't send me e-mails full of abuse, I'll just hit > delete every time I see one. > > Sorry, feel a bit serious about this topic (not to mention depressed)! > > Michael From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Tue Aug 28 18:24:54 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:24:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] cars is in "Mechanicsville" In-Reply-To: <003601c7e9cd$56e23020$04a69060$@com> Message-ID: <200708290022.l7T0MCac022268@ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com> The more links you guys post, the better I feel about what I have. By chance, is there anyone in the Milwaukee area over the holiday weekend? I think I finally hit that point where I need a second set of eyes. The books I have just only seem to go so far. Chris 66 MKIII 2000 528 iT Brookfield, WI -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Wm. Severin Thompson Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 6:44 PM To: 'Spridgets'; team-thicko at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] cars is in "Mechanicsville" Town name is a bit of misnomer, wouldn't you say? Ebay item numb300145924667 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-Midget-RARE-1975-MG-MIDGET-RACE-CAR-V8-TUB BED-OUT-ROLL-CAGE_W0QQitemZ300145924667QQihZ020QQcategoryZ31859QQssPageNameZ WDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Item number 300145924667 Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii Message-ID: <044501c7e9d3$da5eddd0$6601a8c0@actualshop> <<...trailer queen concours car. >> Actually Buster, In both AHCA, AHCUSA, NAMGBR, & NAMGAR Concours cars are ENCOURAGED to be DRIVEN & USED and MOSTLY are with "trailer queens" being Discouraged!!! Judging points are NOT deducted for probs arising from "driving use"!! As a GREAT example, in 1988 (for Conclave) a good friend of mine and one of the writers of Big Healeys Concours Standards (guidelines) drove is (only) 90% finished Concours Big Healey from Ottawa, Canada to Shangra-La, OK. and 2 "flaws" where found BUT the were from driving usage!! A goodly number of Coucours cars are even RACED!! And in your case, she IS closer to Concours Standards than you would think!!! A purchase by you (from George Merinos - autox Lister) of the Sprite Standards and then you going over your car would tell you that!!! Me From mconn2 at bright.net Tue Aug 28 18:31:08 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 20:31:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget repair - another perspective References: <000601c7e98f$42bf0ac0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <004c01c7e9c2$1b741c70$7a34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <60313l$rhudf@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <001b01c7e9d3$e571a4f0$7a34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Tim, You,ve got a lot more courage than I have, that's for sure. I live in dread what will be found when the prep works being done. Now, that's a depressing thought! Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy H. Collins" To: "Michael Conn" Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 6:41 PM Subject: Spridget repair - another perspective > Michael, > On the other hand, I spend the day making two patch panels and welding one > of them in. They are patches for the inner wheel well - nobody will ever > see them - and they just as well could have been "bodged" with bondo, etc. > I find satisfaction in doing the job to the best of my ability with > materials and methods I feel are correct. Hang in there. Oh, I do use > bondo, but only a skim coat to smooth surface imperfections - not to fill > holes where metal should be. I'm not a professional body man working in a > well stocked shop. I learn as I go and make it look as good as I can > according to my abilities. > Tim > > At 06:23 PM 8/28/2007, you wrote: >>List. >> >>The stories about how to fill in holes in our spridgets are really quite >>depressing, don't you think. Surely it's much more satisfying to do the >>job properly (i.e. buy replacement panels or whatever). The first e-mail >>or so depressed me, so I'm just hitting delete now. We're to preserve >>our >>LBC's are we not? Don't send me e-mails full of abuse, I'll just hit >>delete every time I see one. >> >>Sorry, feel a bit serious about this topic (not to mention depressed)! >> >>Michael > > Tim Collins > 1966 AH Sprite From dwoerpel at wi.net Tue Aug 28 18:31:20 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:31:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] cars is in "Mechanicsville" In-Reply-To: <200708290022.l7T0MCac022268@ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com> References: <200708290022.l7T0MCac022268@ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <46D4BE58.9030802@wi.net> Chris, I know Bugeyes inside and out some of the Spridgets workings (those are "new fangled" machines). What do you need specifically? I'll be on Pilgrim Parkway in the afternoon and could stop over when finished there. Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS Burlington WI Chris Manuel wrote: > The more links you guys post, the better I feel about what I have. > > By chance, is there anyone in the Milwaukee area over the holiday weekend? > I think I finally hit that point where I need a second set of eyes. The > books I have just only seem to go so far. > > Chris > > 66 MKIII > 2000 528 iT > Brookfield, WI From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Aug 28 18:32:54 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:32:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] cars is in "Mechanicsville" In-Reply-To: <200708290022.l7T0MCac022268@ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com> References: <003601c7e9cd$56e23020$04a69060$@com> <200708290022.l7T0MCac022268@ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <004901c7e9d4$2706e3d0$7514ab70$@com> What's the question? (drove home thru Milwaukee today) -----Original Message----- From: Chris Manuel [mailto:cmanuel at wi.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 7:25 PM To: 'Wm. Severin Thompson'; 'Spridgets'; team-thicko at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Spridgets] cars is in "Mechanicsville" The more links you guys post, the better I feel about what I have. By chance, is there anyone in the Milwaukee area over the holiday weekend? I think I finally hit that point where I need a second set of eyes. The books I have just only seem to go so far. Chris 66 MKIII 2000 528 iT Brookfield, WI From mconn2 at bright.net Tue Aug 28 18:36:14 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 20:36:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks References: <000601c7e98f$42bf0ac0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <004c01c7e9c2$1b741c70$7a34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <001301c7e9c3$902fe160$b08fa420$@com> <46D4A439.3010900@comcast.net> <001f01c7e9c5$5f5c92c0$1e15b840$@com> Message-ID: <002001c7e9d4$9baaa960$7a34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Wm., I think that's my point. Ain't gonna be no Taco Bell wrappers, Burger King wrappers, bondo, bubble gum or whatever. I'm getting more depressed by the minute. Woe is me. And, no, I don't have a lot of money! That's another point involved in this ever increasing feeling of depression. Is there any one out there who just wants to prep and paint an AN5? Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: "'Frank Clarici'" Cc: "'Michael Conn'" ; "'spridgets'" Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 6:47 PM Subject: RE: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks > Yes, the foil content of the Taco Bell wrappers gives at least 4 hours > more > rust protection to the bondo plug than the paper wrapper of the Burger > Kings. > > There's an awful lot of body shops that still do stuff like that... just > slather some of today's exceptional fillers with tiger hair, etc. in them > (no, no tigers were killed in the making of this bondo), and are confident > to give you a 2 year "rust through" guarantee. The bondo usually pops out > of > the rust crater in 731 days, or in the case of the Taco Bell wrapper, 731 > days + 4 hours. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Frank Clarici [mailto:spritenut at comcast.net] > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 5:40 PM > To: Wm. Severin Thompson > Cc: 'Michael Conn'; 'spridgets' > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks > > Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: >> Michael, >> >> The Burger King wrapper story is part of a running joke between Frank and > I. > > And it's NOT Burger King, it's TACO BELL! > Yeah, can't anybody take a joke these days? > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From mconn2 at bright.net Tue Aug 28 18:39:06 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 20:39:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks References: <000601c7e98f$42bf0ac0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <004c01c7e9c2$1b741c70$7a34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <000c01c7e9c7$37878320$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <002701c7e9d5$01d2da50$7a34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Glyn. Woe is me. Please, see my other e-mails on the subject. (Note, please, I don't have a lot of money or the ability to do it myself. Wishful thinking on my part.) Woe is me. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen Byrns" To: "Michael Conn" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks > Don't take it too seriously Michael. Most of us are relating things we > have found done by Previous Owners, God bless them all. > It would be great if we all had the skills/equipment/money to swap out > every dented panel, use only lead filler applied by a true "artiste" or > hire top professionals for our restorations. But reality varies owner by > owner. Even a taco-wrapper under a slug of Bondo beats a giant untended > rust hole that sends another LBC to the crusher. Besides, it gives us an > entire class of people to berate and demean on the list. Also a bunch of > "can you top this?" DPO stories for when we meet. > > Most of us would never do any of these terrible things to our treasured > little Spridgets. But for a dented Triumph however.............. > > > Glen > > > >> List. >> >> The stories about how to fill in holes in our spridgets are really quite >> depressing, don't you think. Surely it's much more satisfying to do the >> job properly (i.e. buy replacement panels or whatever). The first >> e-mail >> or so depressed me, so I'm just hitting delete now. We're to preserve >> our >> LBC's are we not? Don't send me e-mails full of abuse, I'll just hit >> delete every time I see one. >> >> Sorry, feel a bit serious about this topic (not to mention depressed)! >> >> Michael From mconn2 at bright.net Tue Aug 28 18:40:56 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 20:40:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks References: <380-220078228231949234@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <003001c7e9d5$43f4efe0$7a34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Buster, Woe is me. Please, see my other e-mails on the subjects. Oh, dear. Help! Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Bruce Evans" To: "Michael Conn" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks > Michael wrote: "The stories about how to fill in holes in our spridgets > are really quite depressing, don't you think. Surely it's much more > satisfying to do the job properly (i.e. buy replacement panels or > whatever)." > > That is all fine and well if an owner 1) can afford the $200 for, say, a > door skin, 2) can find that the body panels are even available, 3) can > afford the equipment, 4) has the skills necessary for the work, or 5) has > the time and place for the work. In 1961, my brother smashed the right > front end of my Bugeye, and as a poor sailor I had no alternative to Bondo > and match the paint as closely as possible. That car provided me > incredible fun, pleasure, and transportation just like that for decades. > Only a year and a half ago did the work get done properly. > > My Sprite has never been, nor will ever be a trailer queen concours car. > It has will and will forever be just what it was designed to deliver: > fun, > pleasure, and transportation. It is the preservation of the marque that > is > important! I would much rather see Frank and Kevin do a quick restoration > than have a car go to the grinder. We all know that those two are not > doing it for the money, but to keep them on the road. > > Buster Evans From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Tue Aug 28 19:05:07 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 20:05:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] cars is in "Mechanicsville" In-Reply-To: <004901c7e9d4$2706e3d0$7514ab70$@com> Message-ID: <200708290104.l7T14tH1024463@ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com> Well, I've never owned.or even driven one of these before so bear with me. Yes I was sober when I bought it. I had to shelve it for a month since the primary grocery getter felt needy again and threw a couple of coils. I'm back to putting the Sprite together again. I have a box of "parts" that I just cannot find in my books and I'm just not sure if they belong to this car or something else from the DPO's garage from the past 20 years. Also, the moon phase must be incorrect again and I just cannot get the remote unit back on the transmission. Not looking for actual grunt work, just the magic passwords. And any other tips. I guess I hit that lull in the project and the realization I'm looking at the brink of September. Maybe since WST drove through the county I'll have better luck, along with the sighting of 3 Spridgets over the weekend. Chris -----Original Message----- From: Wm. Severin Thompson [mailto:wsthompson at thicko.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 7:33 PM To: 'Chris Manuel'; 'Spridgets'; team-thicko at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Spridgets] cars is in "Mechanicsville" What's the question? (drove home thru Milwaukee today) -----Original Message----- From: Chris Manuel [mailto:cmanuel at wi.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 7:25 PM To: 'Wm. Severin Thompson'; 'Spridgets'; team-thicko at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Spridgets] cars is in "Mechanicsville" The more links you guys post, the better I feel about what I have. By chance, is there anyone in the Milwaukee area over the holiday weekend? I think I finally hit that point where I need a second set of eyes. The books I have just only seem to go so far. Chris 66 MKIII 2000 528 iT Brookfield, WI From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Aug 28 19:14:44 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 20:14:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks In-Reply-To: <002701c7e9d5$01d2da50$7a34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> References: <000601c7e98f$42bf0ac0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <004c01c7e9c2$1b741c70$7a34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <000c01c7e9c7$37878320$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <002701c7e9d5$01d2da50$7a34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <004d01c7e9d9$fdf2eec0$f9d8cc40$@com> OK Michael... one more "woe is me" and we're gonna come over an go medieval on your ass (not in a Miata sort of way, of course). -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Conn Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 7:39 PM To: Glen Byrns Cc: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks Glyn. Woe is me. Please, see my other e-mails on the subject. (Note, please, I don't have a lot of money or the ability to do it myself. Wishful thinking on my part.) Woe is me. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen Byrns" To: "Michael Conn" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks > Don't take it too seriously Michael. Most of us are relating things we > have found done by Previous Owners, God bless them all. > It would be great if we all had the skills/equipment/money to swap out > every dented panel, use only lead filler applied by a true "artiste" or > hire top professionals for our restorations. But reality varies owner by > owner. Even a taco-wrapper under a slug of Bondo beats a giant untended > rust hole that sends another LBC to the crusher. Besides, it gives us an > entire class of people to berate and demean on the list. Also a bunch of > "can you top this?" DPO stories for when we meet. > > Most of us would never do any of these terrible things to our treasured > little Spridgets. But for a dented Triumph however.............. > > > Glen > > > >> List. >> >> The stories about how to fill in holes in our spridgets are really quite >> depressing, don't you think. Surely it's much more satisfying to do the >> job properly (i.e. buy replacement panels or whatever). The first >> e-mail >> or so depressed me, so I'm just hitting delete now. We're to preserve >> our >> LBC's are we not? Don't send me e-mails full of abuse, I'll just hit >> delete every time I see one. >> >> Sorry, feel a bit serious about this topic (not to mention depressed)! >> >> Michael _______________________________________________ From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Aug 28 19:35:01 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 20:35:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OK, since we are all getting testy here... when insults had class Message-ID: <0d1c01c7e9dc$d2398390$6401a8c0@Larry> Woe is me... "He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire." -- Winston Churchill "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." -- Clarence Darrow "He has never been known to use a word that might send a reader to the dictionary." -- William Faulkner (about Ernest Hemingway) "I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it." -- Groucho Marx "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - - Mark Twain "He has no enemies, but is intensely disliked by his friends." -- Oscar Wilde "I am enclosing two tickets to the first night of my new play; bring a friend... If you have one." -- George Bernard Shaw to Winston Churchill... followed by Churchill's response: "Cannot possibly attend first night, will attend second, if there is one." -- Winston Churchill "I feel so miserable without you; it's almost like having you here." -- Stephen Bishop "He is a self-made man and worships his creator." -- John Bright "I've just learned about his illness. Let's hope it's nothing trivial." -- Irvin S. Cobb "He is not only dull himself; he is the cause of dullness in others." -- Samuel Johnson "He is simply a shiver looking for a spine to run up." -- Paul Keating "He had delusions of adequacy." -- Walter Kerr "Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it?" -- Mark Twain "His mother should have thrown him away and kept the stork." -- Mae West "Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go." -- Oscar Wilde Lady Astor once remarked to Winston Churchill at a dinner party, "Winston, if you were my husband, I would poison your coffee!" Churchill replied, "Madam, if I were your husband I would drink it!" From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Aug 28 19:50:31 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 20:50:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OK, since we are all getting testy here... when insults had class In-Reply-To: <0d1c01c7e9dc$d2398390$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <0d1c01c7e9dc$d2398390$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <000001c7e9de$ff626b00$fe274100$@com> Bring your Taco Bell wrappers with when you come over tomorrow... we'll have your car done in no time.... -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:35 PM To: Spridgets List Subject: [Spridgets] OK, since we are all getting testy here... when insults had class Woe is me... "He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire." -- Winston Churchill "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." -- Clarence Darrow "He has never been known to use a word that might send a reader to the dictionary." -- William Faulkner (about Ernest Hemingway) "I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it." -- Groucho Marx "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - - Mark Twain "He has no enemies, but is intensely disliked by his friends." -- Oscar Wilde "I am enclosing two tickets to the first night of my new play; bring a friend... If you have one." -- George Bernard Shaw to Winston Churchill... followed by Churchill's response: "Cannot possibly attend first night, will attend second, if there is one." -- Winston Churchill "I feel so miserable without you; it's almost like having you here." -- Stephen Bishop "He is a self-made man and worships his creator." -- John Bright "I've just learned about his illness. Let's hope it's nothing trivial." -- Irvin S. Cobb "He is not only dull himself; he is the cause of dullness in others." -- Samuel Johnson "He is simply a shiver looking for a spine to run up." -- Paul Keating "He had delusions of adequacy." -- Walter Kerr "Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it?" -- Mark Twain "His mother should have thrown him away and kept the stork." -- Mae West "Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go." -- Oscar Wilde Lady Astor once remarked to Winston Churchill at a dinner party, "Winston, if you were my husband, I would poison your coffee!" Churchill replied, "Madam, if I were your husband I would drink it!" _______________________________________________ From smarc at smarc.net Tue Aug 28 19:50:43 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 21:50:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] cars is in "Mechanicsville" In-Reply-To: <003601c7e9cd$56e23020$04a69060$@com> References: <003601c7e9cd$56e23020$04a69060$@com> Message-ID: <46D4D0F3.1080503@smarc.net> Heh, you should see the ones in Scaggsville.... ;-) Yep, thats a real place.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scaggsville,_Maryland Marc (A Baltimoron from sunny Baltimore, Maryland) Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > Town name is a bit of misnomer, wouldn't you say? > > > > Ebay item numb300145924667 > > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-Midget-RARE-1975-MG-MIDGET-RACE-CAR-V8-TUB > BED-OUT-ROLL-CAGE_W0QQitemZ300145924667QQihZ020QQcategoryZ31859QQssPageNameZ > WDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > > Item number 300145924667 > > > > > > > > > > Wm. Severin Thompson > > ~iii <002c01c7e9cb$fe8bb4b0$fba31e10$@com> Message-ID: <0d2101c7e9e0$0bc7ad50$6401a8c0@Larry> Actually, you only defaced the car when you smashed the hell out of the front end of it with the accident on the trailer. If it wasn't for the fact that you were physically ill after that bone-head move, I would say that you ruined it then. I sure am glad that neither I, nor anybody else, was within a hundred miles of that occurance and had to be the misplaced recipient of the blame for that incredible screw-up. It was, and still is, albeit a bit damaged, a very pretty car. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: ; "'Michael Conn'" ; "'Spridgets'" Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks I can recall showing up to my first AHCA meeting in 1974, as an 18 year old kid, with my California BN6 big Healey. It was/is (still have it) rust free. Somewhere in San Bernadino in the 60's, the car got the sweetest 1" fender flares shaped into the original steel. It also had Shelby aluminum slotted wheels, and a side exhaust. Some club asshole comes up, looks it over, and announces , "You ruined that car. You RUINED that car!" I say something to the effect of, "ok, dickhead... where's your car?" He points to his car. As I look it over, I discover he's sheet metal screwed road signs in as floors. I pointed to that, and said, " I ruined my car?" From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Aug 28 20:00:32 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 21:00:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks In-Reply-To: <0d2101c7e9e0$0bc7ad50$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <380-220078228232717484@earthlink.net> <002c01c7e9cb$fe8bb4b0$fba31e10$@com> <0d2101c7e9e0$0bc7ad50$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <000101c7e9e0$635aa720$2a0ff560$@com> Yeah, but it ain't rusty, and it ain't a Miata, and it ain't yours. -----Original Message----- From: Larry Daniels [mailto:ladaniels at sbcglobal.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:58 PM To: Wm. Severin Thompson; 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks Actually, you only defaced the car when you smashed the hell out of the front end of it with the accident on the trailer. If it wasn't for the fact that you were physically ill after that bone-head move, I would say that you ruined it then. I sure am glad that neither I, nor anybody else, was within a hundred miles of that occurance and had to be the misplaced recipient of the blame for that incredible screw-up. It was, and still is, albeit a bit damaged, a very pretty car. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: ; "'Michael Conn'" ; "'Spridgets'" Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks I can recall showing up to my first AHCA meeting in 1974, as an 18 year old kid, with my California BN6 big Healey. It was/is (still have it) rust free. Somewhere in San Bernadino in the 60's, the car got the sweetest 1" fender flares shaped into the original steel. It also had Shelby aluminum slotted wheels, and a side exhaust. Some club asshole comes up, looks it over, and announces , "You ruined that car. You RUINED that car!" I say something to the effect of, "ok, dickhead... where's your car?" He points to his car. As I look it over, I discover he's sheet metal screwed road signs in as floors. I pointed to that, and said, " I ruined my car?" From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Aug 28 20:03:23 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 21:03:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks References: <380-220078228232717484@earthlink.net> <002c01c7e9cb$fe8bb4b0$fba31e10$@com> <0d2101c7e9e0$0bc7ad50$6401a8c0@Larry> <000101c7e9e0$635aa720$2a0ff560$@com> Message-ID: <0d3f01c7e9e0$c85aabc0$6401a8c0@Larry> Yeah, if it was mine, you would be in a constant litany about how long it takes to restore it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: "'Larry Daniels'" ; "'Spridgets'" Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 9:00 PM Subject: RE: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks Yeah, but it ain't rusty, and it ain't a Miata, and it ain't yours. -----Original Message----- From: Larry Daniels [mailto:ladaniels at sbcglobal.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:58 PM To: Wm. Severin Thompson; 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks Actually, you only defaced the car when you smashed the hell out of the front end of it with the accident on the trailer. If it wasn't for the fact that you were physically ill after that bone-head move, I would say that you ruined it then. I sure am glad that neither I, nor anybody else, was within a hundred miles of that occurance and had to be the misplaced recipient of the blame for that incredible screw-up. It was, and still is, albeit a bit damaged, a very pretty car. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: ; "'Michael Conn'" ; "'Spridgets'" Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks I can recall showing up to my first AHCA meeting in 1974, as an 18 year old kid, with my California BN6 big Healey. It was/is (still have it) rust free. Somewhere in San Bernadino in the 60's, the car got the sweetest 1" fender flares shaped into the original steel. It also had Shelby aluminum slotted wheels, and a side exhaust. Some club asshole comes up, looks it over, and announces , "You ruined that car. You RUINED that car!" I say something to the effect of, "ok, dickhead... where's your car?" He points to his car. As I look it over, I discover he's sheet metal screwed road signs in as floors. I pointed to that, and said, " I ruined my car?" From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Aug 28 21:10:54 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 21:10:54 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Good Helmet for Track Days? Message-ID: <5f00d9910708282010u46a6e4dfy89ce20470bbfe727@mail.gmail.com> What's a good entry level cranium protector for tooling around a road course? I ran into an old buddy with a new Mustang and it looks like I'll be heading to the track soon. As it turns out the LA State Police has a 2 mile road course that they use for training. They rent the facility out of track days, drifting, etc. Who woulda thunk it? I just keep hearing Junior Brown singing "If you wanna race then get on a race track". From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Aug 28 21:14:13 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 22:14:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC... a pool. Message-ID: <0de301c7e9ea$ad937650$6401a8c0@Larry> Let's start a pool. How long before anti-gay marriage, anti-gay, gay Republican Senator Craig: A) Finds Jesus B) Enters a 12 step program C) Goes into a rehab program D) Renounces his position on gay marriage and proclaims his undying love for fellow Republican, anti-gay marriage, anti-gay, gay, ex-Congressman Mark Foley Pay your money and take your chance. The line forms on the right. Mail all your entries to the "Republican-oh-shit-we-got-caught-again" committee. Ya gotta love it. From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Aug 28 22:28:54 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 21:28:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] OK, since we are all getting testy here... when insults had class Message-ID: <380-22007832942854968@earthlink.net> Larry Daniels wrote: Some GREAT quotes!!!! To which I might add: I am sitting in the smallest room in the house. I have your review [e-mail, letter, etc.] in front of me. In a moment I will have it behind me. --Max Reger to the music critic R. Louis Oh, you miserable villain! What I shit is better than anything you have ever thought! --Ludwig van Beethoven to the music critic G. Weber about his review of Wellingtons Sieg I refuse to argue with those I have to educate first. --Lewis M. Davis Rossini would have been a great composer if his teacher had spanked him enough. --Ludwig van Beethoven There are no woman composers, never have been and possibly never will be. --Sir Thomas Beecham I occassionally play works by contemporary composer for two reasons. First to discourage the composer from writing any more, and second to remind myself how much I appreciate Beethoven. --Jasha Heifetz I prefer the company of peasants because they have not been educated sufficiently to reason incorrectly --Montaigne A wise man does not learn from his mistakes. He learns from the mistakes of others. --RB Evans Meetings are a visible sign of the failure of an organization. --Peter Drucker Meetings are what people do instead of doing things. --Peter Drucker What is a committee? A group of the unwilling, picked from the unfit, to do the unnecessary." --Richard Harkness Committee - a group of men who keep minutes an waste hours. --M. Berle Attitudes dont change unless there is a strong motivation and strong understanding. --Dick Deihl Good management adapts and adapts well. --Dick Deihl The Navy (or any organization/business) is a master plan designed by geniuses for execution by idiots. If you are not an idiot, but find yourself in the Navy, you can only operate well by pretending to be one. All the shortcuts and economies and common-sense changes that your native intelligence suggests to you are mistakes. Learn to quash them. Constantly ask yourself, How would I do this if I were a fool? Throttle down your mind to a crawl. Then you will never go wrong. --Herman Wouk, The Caine Mutiny From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Tue Aug 28 22:30:51 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 23:30:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OK, since we are all getting testy here... when insults had class In-Reply-To: <000001c7e9de$ff626b00$fe274100$@com> References: <0d1c01c7e9dc$d2398390$6401a8c0@Larry> <000001c7e9de$ff626b00$fe274100$@com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0708282130s28e07367g62bd8a4b6e22142f@mail.gmail.com> "You can still see part of the coat hanger in his scalp" - Jim Norton. On 8/28/07, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > Bring your Taco Bell wrappers with when you come over tomorrow... we'll have > your car done in no time.... > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > Larry Daniels > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:35 PM > To: Spridgets List > Subject: [Spridgets] OK, since we are all getting testy here... when insults > had class > > Woe is me... > > > > > > > "He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire." -- > Winston > Churchill > > > > > > "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great > pleasure." -- Clarence Darrow > > > > > > "He has never been known to use a word that might send a reader to the > dictionary." -- William Faulkner (about Ernest Hemingway) > > > > > > > "I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it." -- Groucho > Marx > > > > > > "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of > it." - - Mark Twain > > > > > > "He has no enemies, but is intensely disliked by his friends." -- Oscar > Wilde > > > > > > "I am enclosing two tickets to the first night of my new play; bring a > friend... If you have one." -- George Bernard Shaw to Winston Churchill... > > followed by Churchill's response: "Cannot possibly attend first night, will > attend second, if there is one." -- Winston Churchill > > > > > > "I feel so miserable without you; it's almost like having you here." -- > Stephen Bishop > > > > > > > "He is a self-made man and worships his creator." -- John Bright > > > > > > > > "I've just learned about his illness. Let's hope it's nothing trivial." -- > Irvin S. Cobb > > > > > > "He is not only dull himself; he is the cause of dullness in others." -- > Samuel Johnson > > > > > > "He is simply a shiver looking for a spine to run up." -- Paul Keating > > > > > > "He had delusions of adequacy." -- Walter Kerr > > > > > > "Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it?" > -- > Mark Twain > > > > > > > "His mother should have thrown him away and kept the stork." -- Mae West > > > > > > > "Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go." -- Oscar > Wilde > > > > > > > Lady Astor once remarked to Winston Churchill at a dinner party, "Winston, > if > you were my husband, I would poison your coffee!" > > > > Churchill replied, "Madam, if I were your husband I would drink it!" -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata Red hardtop for sale, $950. Inquire with driver. From pdx.pete at verizon.net Tue Aug 28 22:42:28 2007 From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (pdxpete) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 21:42:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC... a pool. References: <0de301c7e9ea$ad937650$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <009801c7e9f7$01609810$6c0b6f47@DBKF4T81> Personally, I don't give a hoot about the true nature of Craig's sexuality. That's his business. And, although I find his ideological "postures" to be at best unfortunate, he has the right to be anti-whatever and even, potentially, hypocritical. What really bothers me is the f*****g stupidity and/or arrogance of it all. Doing anything other than attending to the necessary ablutions, as expeditiously as possible, is all one does in a public restroom. Come on ... everyone knows this! The man should be old enough to remember (or have heard of) Walter Jenkins, Wilbur Mills and Fanne Fox, Gary Hart, and a host of others whose political careers have been ended by sheer foible. If it turns out that ancient history is not Craig's strong suit he just has to be aware that he's recently been under scrutiny from a home state newspaper. So, either he's a totally unaware individual, or he has nothing that remotely resembles good judgment, or he believes that he is above it all. In any case, no matter what the reason, he should no longer occupy any position of public authority. And I hope he doesn't drive an LBC. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" > Let's start a pool. > > How long before anti-gay marriage, anti-gay, gay Republican Senator Craig: From Daniel1312 at aol.com Wed Aug 29 02:39:33 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 04:39:33 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] cars is in "Mechanicsville" Message-ID: I had an accident in my Sprite I bit like that. After the car was taken off the flat bed and put in my garage before my wife found out (I told her 2 weeks later) I cleared out the rear light unit parts in the boot. Turned out a lot of the bits of orange and red plastic was debris from someone else's accident on the same spot. Daniel1312 In a message dated 29/08/07 02:05:28 GMT Daylight Time, cmanuel at wi.rr.com writes: > I have a box of "parts" that I just cannot find in my books and I'm just > not > sure if they belong to this car or something else From Daniel1312 at aol.com Wed Aug 29 02:42:21 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 04:42:21 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC... a pool. Message-ID: Sounds like a Liberal Democrat to me, but then again I have trouble understanding even British Politics. Daniel1312 in ENGLAND!!!! n a message dated 29/08/07 04:15:07 GMT Daylight Time, ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: > > Let's start a pool. > > How long before anti-gay marriage, anti-gay, gay Republican Senator Craig: > > A) Finds Jesus > > B) Enters a 12 step program > > C) Goes into a rehab program > > D) Renounces his position on gay marriage and proclaims his undying love for > fellow Republican, anti-gay marriage, anti-gay, gay, ex-Congressman Mark > Foley > > Pay your money and take your chance. The line forms on the right. > > > Mail all your entries to the "Republican-oh-shit-we-got-caught-again" > committee. > > > Ya gotta love it. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Aug 29 05:04:41 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 06:04:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC... a pool. References: Message-ID: <003001c7ea2c$6708d080$6401a8c0@Larry> Actually, I don't like the Democrats, either. I just delight in the hypocrisy. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel1312 at aol.com To: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net ; spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 3:42 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC... a pool. Sounds like a Liberal Democrat to me, but then again I have trouble understanding even British Politics. Daniel1312 in ENGLAND!!!! n a message dated 29/08/07 04:15:07 GMT Daylight Time, ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: Let's start a pool. How long before anti-gay marriage, anti-gay, gay Republican Senator Craig: A) Finds Jesus B) Enters a 12 step program C) Goes into a rehab program D) Renounces his position on gay marriage and proclaims his undying love for fellow Republican, anti-gay marriage, anti-gay, gay, ex-Congressman Mark Foley Pay your money and take your chance. The line forms on the right. Mail all your entries to the "Republican-oh-shit-we-got-caught-again" committee. Ya gotta love it. From wsthompson at thicko.com Wed Aug 29 06:37:30 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 07:37:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC... a pool. In-Reply-To: <003001c7ea2c$6708d080$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <003001c7ea2c$6708d080$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <000c01c7ea39$5fd24640$1f76d2c0$@com> If you delight in hypocrisy, ya gotta love this... http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/house.asp -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 6:05 AM To: Daniel1312 at aol.com; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC... a pool. Actually, I don't like the Democrats, either. I just delight in the hypocrisy. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel1312 at aol.com To: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net ; spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 3:42 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC... a pool. Sounds like a Liberal Democrat to me, but then again I have trouble understanding even British Politics. Daniel1312 in ENGLAND!!!! n a message dated 29/08/07 04:15:07 GMT Daylight Time, ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: Let's start a pool. How long before anti-gay marriage, anti-gay, gay Republican Senator Craig: A) Finds Jesus B) Enters a 12 step program C) Goes into a rehab program D) Renounces his position on gay marriage and proclaims his undying love for fellow Republican, anti-gay marriage, anti-gay, gay, ex-Congressman Mark Foley Pay your money and take your chance. The line forms on the right. Mail all your entries to the "Republican-oh-shit-we-got-caught-again" committee. Ya gotta love it. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Aug 29 07:06:10 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:06:10 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC... a pool. In-Reply-To: <009801c7e9f7$01609810$6c0b6f47@DBKF4T81> Message-ID: Auntie-whatever? He's a cross dresser too? Ed >From: "pdxpete" > >he has the right to be anti-whatever From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 07:08:51 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:08:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuse box breaker question In-Reply-To: <20070815133031.KATJ5565.cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com@heard> References: <1715443753.20070815061416@pacifier.com> <20070815133031.KATJ5565.cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com@heard> Message-ID: <205cef430708290608q25c0d96bq412f8a0f1a7ba0e2@mail.gmail.com> List, I spoke with my dad who is a civil engineer and I will contact an electrician to possibly rewire the garage. Thanks Linda On 8/15/07, Heard Saxon wrote: > > I would second that opinion. The main purpose of the breaker is to trip > BEFORE the wire melts and starts a fire. Without knowing the size and > type > of that wire, there is no way you can safely increase the breaker size. > > I would suggest there may be something wrong with that compressor. A > standard run-of-the-mill 120V 30 gallon compressor should run from any > standard 15 or 20 amp circuit. Try it on a different circuit and see if > that also kicks the breaker. > > Heard > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+heard=datatrontech.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+heard=datatrontech.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf > Of Bill L > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 9:14 AM > To: Spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuse box breaker question > > Hello derf, > > you should NOT simply up-rate a breaker and change the outlet > from a 15 amp to a 20 amp breaker/receptacle!!! the breaker > size is determined by the WIRE size, which also has to be > changed... current flow = HEAT. too small wire = too much heat > = FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > "66 Sprite > The sex was so good that even the neighbors had a cigarette. > _______________________________________________ > heard at datatrontech.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > grunthaner at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 07:11:39 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:11:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuse box breaker question In-Reply-To: <131b01c7df4b$2caee870$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <4498405.1187187710446.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <8de85a9c0708150740u576ab34cld066fca7eb39cecf@mail.gmail.com> <131b01c7df4b$2caee870$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <205cef430708290611i6e2d660au8939936d9e7c029f@mail.gmail.com> David & List, Yes I am getting an electrician because I also bought a new MIG and will need a new dedicated line. Thanks Lin On 8/15/07, David Lieb wrote: > > >> You can uprate the breaker often times and have no ill effect. Often a > >> much heavier guage of wire was used in the first place. Analyze the > wire > >> ga - OK throw the breaker first. > > Derf's point was that the breaker was tripping when the motor tried to > start, not under continued use. The extra amperage used at start is of > short > duration and does not necessarily represent a fire hazard. I agree that > the > ideal solution is to run a brand new dedicated 20A circuit for this > device, > but that is probably overkill. OTOH, if you put off all your projects > until > you get around to re-wiring the garage... On the third hand, since Lin has > or is getting a MIG, it is probably a great time to re-wire properly. > David Lieb > _______________________________________________ > grunthaner at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dmg at bossig.com Wed Aug 29 07:51:41 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 06:51:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] OK, since we are all getting testy here... when insults had class In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0708282130s28e07367g62bd8a4b6e22142f@mail.gmail.com> References: <0d1c01c7e9dc$d2398390$6401a8c0@Larry>, <000001c7e9de$ff626b00$fe274100$@com>, <8a336b9d0708282130s28e07367g62bd8a4b6e22142f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46D5177D.27484.15604A@dmg.bossig.com> My all-time favorite (so far) is by a ficititious character, Lazarus Long;.. "Never under-estimate the Power of Human stupidity" R.A.Heilein - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Aug 29 09:45:33 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 08:45:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC... a pool. Message-ID: <380-220078329154533656@earthlink.net> Larry Daniels wrote: "Actually, I don't like the Democrats, either. I just delight in the hypocrisy." In the words of the Great Southern Orator: "There ain't a dime's worth of difference!" --George Wallace, 1968 Besides, we share with the politicians of both parties the quirk of fate that we are all too human. Buster Evan From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 10:22:50 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 11:22:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC... a pool. In-Reply-To: <380-220078329154533656@earthlink.net> References: <380-220078329154533656@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0708290922k520110c3j95b4f41b223f2130@mail.gmail.com> On 8/29/07, Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > > Besides, we share with the politicians of both parties the quirk of fate > that we are all too human. True. But experince teaches us that some are more too human than others... ;-) Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Aug 29 10:29:07 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:29:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC... a pool. Message-ID: <380-22007832916297640@earthlink.net> Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: " If you delight in hypocrisy, ya gotta love this..." Oh, Flounder, you are so cruel! There you go, shattering the wonderful illusion so carefully crafted by the inventor of the Internet. Destroying an image so perfectly spun around the world of this Great Environmentalist. You have sought to reveal Am Inconvenient Truth, to coin a phrase! I am shattered and devastated that he doth have feet of clay! Oh, my, what shall we ever do? Buster From kevin at valentinephoto.net Wed Aug 29 10:28:43 2007 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:28:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Record restoration In-Reply-To: <46D3A644.2090807@comcast.net> References: <46D3A644.2090807@comcast.net> Message-ID: <52D741BC-C7CD-43A8-AE6C-6F1CAC415CCC@valentinephoto.net> On Aug 28, 2007, at 12:36 AM, Frank Clarici wrote: > Kevin sanded, I cut and welded, > Kevin sanded I mixed paint, > Kevin sanded, I squirted primer, > Kevin sanded, I cleaned up the garage, > Kevin sanded, I watched, > Kevin sanded I was a gopher, > Kevin sanded while I cut up Taco Bell wrappers, > Kevin sanded some more and I helped for a change. > > Oh yeah, tomorrow while Kevin is sanding, I'll go get the paint. It's Wednesday and I'm back in PA. My right arm is numb from the elbow down and I have no feeling in the fingertips of my right hand. The car is ready for paint. Frank shot the jams and interior yesterday before I left his place. Frank spent the better part of Sunday welding in British Heritage repair panels and fabricating other small sheet metal panels while I sanded the car to bare metal. Sunday night it was in primer and Monday morning the sanding began......... I've probably worked on 75 or 80 different Spridgets over the last few years, but this was the most fun I've had working on these cars in a long time. (Probably because this one is mine ;) Kevin V. From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 29 10:38:22 2007 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:38:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks In-Reply-To: <000c01c7e9c7$37878320$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <821892.23966.qm@web36809.mail.mud.yahoo.com> "Most of us would never do any of these terrible things to our treasured little Spridgets. But for a dented Triumph however.............." Speaking of old Triumphs... While prepping the body of a MKIII Spitfire I restored about 20 years ago, I found the driver side sill filled with a wadded-up plastic shower curtain. Definitely stronger material than Burger King or Taco Bell wrappers, but not nearly as environmentally friendly. - David > List. > > The stories about how to fill in holes in our spridgets are really quite > depressing, don't you think. Surely it's much more satisfying to do the > job properly (i.e. buy replacement panels or whatever). The first e-mail > or so depressed me, so I'm just hitting delete now. We're to preserve > our > LBC's are we not? Don't send me e-mails full of abuse, I'll just hit > delete every time I see one. > > Sorry, feel a bit serious about this topic (not to mention depressed)! > > Michael _______________________________________________ tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Aug 29 10:40:19 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:40:19 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Record restoration In-Reply-To: <52D741BC-C7CD-43A8-AE6C-6F1CAC415CCC@valentinephoto.net> Message-ID: You will post pictures, won't you? RD >From: "K. Valentine" > >On Aug 28, 2007, at 12:36 AM, Frank Clarici wrote: > > Kevin sanded, I cut and welded, > > Kevin sanded I mixed paint, > > Kevin sanded, I squirted primer, > > Kevin sanded, I cleaned up the garage, > > Kevin sanded, I watched, > > Kevin sanded I was a gopher, > > Kevin sanded while I cut up Taco Bell wrappers, > > Kevin sanded some more and I helped for a change. > > > > Oh yeah, tomorrow while Kevin is sanding, I'll go get the paint. > > >It's Wednesday and I'm back in PA. My right arm is numb from the >elbow down and I have no feeling in the fingertips of my right >hand. The car is ready for paint. Frank shot the jams and interior >yesterday before I left his place. > >Frank spent the better part of Sunday welding in British Heritage >repair panels and fabricating other small sheet metal panels while I >sanded the car to bare metal. Sunday night it was in primer and >Monday morning the sanding began......... > >I've probably worked on 75 or 80 different Spridgets over the last >few years, but this was the most fun I've had working on these cars >in a long time. (Probably because this one is mine ;) > >Kevin V. From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Aug 29 10:45:02 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:45:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The Gaydon Sprite ledger book Message-ID: <380-22007832916452421@earthlink.net> David Doiron wrote: "I was lucky enough to visit with Anders Clausager in Gayden. I held in my hands the actual hand-written ledger book that recorded Sprite production." Many have declared me wrong-headed when I tell them my Sprite was equipped with whitewall tires on it when I purchased it new. No, they insisted, all Sprites had black walls. When Frank and I went to Gaydon in May, the lads in the record office gave us that ledget book to review. There in the cursive writing of some obscure clerk was recorded my Sprite. In the right hand column, it noted that it was sent from the factor with white sidewalls! What a relief. I may be dumb and crazy, but not on this issue! If anyone visits England, I would highly recommend you visit Gaydon if for no other reason than to look up your car's VIN. Buster Evans From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 11:00:45 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:00:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC... a pool. In-Reply-To: <380-22007832916297640@earthlink.net> References: <380-22007832916297640@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Knowing you Buster, you'll probably vote for him.... On 8/29/07, Robert Bruce Evans wrote: Oh, my, what shall we ever do? From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Aug 29 11:46:37 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 10:46:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC... a pool Message-ID: <46D5B0FD.1030301@earthlink.net> Brad Fornal wrote: "Knowing you Buster, you'll probably vote for him...." No way! I Go Pogo!!!! He's the candidate with an illustrious past, and who truly knows who the enemy is! And something about guns. Buster [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of RiskyGuy.jpg] From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Aug 29 11:52:43 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:52:43 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] More quotes Message-ID: from here http://www.quotationspage.com/random.php3 ( There are other categories there, as well. ) A joke's a very serious thing. Charles Churchill, "The Ghost", 1762 He that falls in love with himself will have no rivals. Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790) Don't let yourself forget what it's like to be sixteen. Anonymous Good teaching is one-fourth preparation and three-fourths theater. Gail Godwin I never vote for anyone; I always vote against. W. C. Fields (1880 - 1946) Happiness is when what you think, what you say, and what you do are in harmony. Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948) There are two ways of exerting one's strength: one is pushing down, the other is pulling up. Booker T. Washington (1856 - 1915) No great deed, private or public, had ever been undertaken in a bliss of certainty. Leon Wieseltier, in The New Republic I'm seventeen and I'm crazy. My uncle says the two always go together. When people ask your age, he said, always say seventeen and insane. Ray Bradbury (1920 - ), Fahrenheit 451, 1953 You may be deceived if you trust too much, but you will live in torment if you do not trust enough. Frank Crane From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Aug 29 11:54:22 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:54:22 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Humour and quotes Message-ID: A man, whose level of drunkenness was bordering on the absurd, stood up to leave a bar and fell flat on his face. "Maybe all I need is some fresh air," thought the man as he crawled outside. He tried to stand up again, but fell face first into the mud. "Screw it," he thought. "I'll just crawl home." The next morning, his wife found him on the doorstep asleep. "You went out drinking last night, didn't you?" she said. "Uh, yes," he said sheepishly. "How did you know?" "You left your wheelchair at the bar again." - - - - - - A little kid asks his father, "Daddy, is God a man or a woman?" "Both son. God is both." After awhile the kid comes again and asks, "Daddy, is God black or white?" "Both son, both." "Daddy, does God love children?" "Yes son, he loves all children." The child returns a few minutes later and says, "Daddy, is Michael Jackson God?" - - - - - - - - - The only reason some people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory. - Paul Fix Not only is there no God, but try getting a plumber on weekends. - Woody Allen A man can be happy with any woman as long as he does not love her. - Oscar Wilde From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Aug 29 12:40:39 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:40:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC... a pool References: <46D5B0FD.1030301@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <00a101c7ea6c$1979aac0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > No way! I Go Pogo!!!! He's the candidate with an illustrious past, > and who truly knows who the enemy is! And something about guns. Yeah, let's hear it for Walt Kelly's candidate! "Oh the party of the first part and the party of the next Were partly participled in a parsley-covered text. Were you partial to a party who has parcelled out its parts? With lights out you may triple on a homer in the dark." From wmgilroy at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 12:40:41 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 11:40:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost Message-ID: <441250190708291140x3319e68er3fd6a62b60ef26d5@mail.gmail.com> This message is overdue. Several people have asked if we made it into the Red Bull soapbox derby. The answer is no. People are asking why we lost. They want to know how, after we massed an army of people who voted each day why did Team Death Trap still lose? There was a fundamental flaw in our plan, so basic, that we were doomed from the start. The "Death Trap Army" was made up of people like you and I. We go to work, we drink, we work on cars, have families, and most important we can have sex. It turns out that the winning team, "The Rust Rockets" voters were made up of a bunch of nerds, who play the online game, "World of Warcraft". Think pasty nerds who never leave the computer, never see the daylight, have no personal friends, never talked to a girl and most important, never have sex. You can't compete against an army of gaming nerds. So the reason we lost is the "Death Trap Army" was much to normal. Thanks for voting, the first beer is on me, now go have sex. Bill "the loser" Gilroy From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Aug 29 12:42:14 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:42:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Autocross last Saturday Message-ID: <00a501c7ea6c$5259e8a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Shameless self-promotion... A friend of mine just emailed me that footage of two of my runs at last Saturday's Miata Club autocross are on Youtube... http://www.youtube.com/clementinemini David Lieb 1972 RWA Midget From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Aug 29 12:46:27 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:46:27 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost In-Reply-To: <441250190708291140x3319e68er3fd6a62b60ef26d5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: >So the reason we lost is the "Death Trap Army" was much too normal. That makes me laugh! > Thanks for voting, the first beer is on me, now go have sex. >Bill "the loser" Gilroy How did you get the beer on yourself? ;) From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 13:09:11 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:09:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost In-Reply-To: References: <441250190708291140x3319e68er3fd6a62b60ef26d5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: He probably tried drinking beer, while having sex........... On 8/29/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > > Thanks for voting, the first beer is on me, now go have sex. > >Bill "the loser" Gilroy > > How did you get the beer on yourself? ;) -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Aug 29 13:24:28 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:24:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost References: <441250190708291140x3319e68er3fd6a62b60ef26d5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00bd01c7ea72$382a3510$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > the "Death Trap Army" was much to normal. Thanks for voting, the first > beer > is on me, now go have sex. Vive la diference! From wmgilroy at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 13:25:00 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:25:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost In-Reply-To: References: <441250190708291140x3319e68er3fd6a62b60ef26d5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <441250190708291225s6c553d67g30837323f1e6a8f1@mail.gmail.com> Right girl, right beer, right act, no problem. On 8/29/07, Brad Fornal wrote: > > He probably tried drinking beer, while having sex........... From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Aug 29 13:34:54 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 19:34:54 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost In-Reply-To: <441250190708291225s6c553d67g30837323f1e6a8f1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: "Act"? You were only acting? Better not let that girl find out!! :) >From: "Bill Gilroy" >To: "Brad Fornal" >CC: "Robert Duquette" , >spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost >Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:25:00 -0700 > >Right girl, right beer, right act, no problem. > >On 8/29/07, Brad Fornal wrote: > > > > He probably tried drinking beer, while having sex........... From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Wed Aug 29 13:41:37 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:41:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost References: Message-ID: <058b01c7ea74$9d64e6d0$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> Like they NEVER do!!!! LOL From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 13:44:11 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:44:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Autocross last Saturday In-Reply-To: <00a501c7ea6c$5259e8a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <00a501c7ea6c$5259e8a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <43840a7e0708291244m1639aaa6t764f385fd5797e9a@mail.gmail.com> Thanks for the video David!! It made for a nice "time-out for fun" this afternoon... Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City On 8/29/07, David Lieb wrote: > Shameless self-promotion... > A friend of mine just emailed me that footage of two of my runs at last > Saturday's Miata Club autocross are on Youtube... > http://www.youtube.com/clementinemini > David Lieb > 1972 RWA Midget From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net Wed Aug 29 14:40:28 2007 From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (Richard Feibusch) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:40:28 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] LABOR DAY BRITISH CAR TOUR STARTING IN MALIBU, CA Message-ID: ***************************************************** Fun SoCal Event! - Labor Day Labor Day is coming! That means it's time to get your British classic tuned up in preparation for the 2007 All British Labor Day Run. September 3, 2007 ~ Malibu, California This is the third and final holiday run for the season, so don't miss out! The Labor Day Run caters to those who love twisty canyon roads, and is definitely not for anyone who suffers car sickness. The route follows some of the most fun sports car roads in the Santa Monica mountains, but is perfectly suitable for sedans or slower drivers as well. We will meet at the Malibu Colony Plaza located at 23841 West Malibu Road, at the southwest corner of Pacific Coast Highway and Webb Way, approximately 12 miles northwest from where I-10 t runs into PCH. Meeting time is 8:45 AM with rollout at 9:30 AM. This is an unorganized event. Everyone is welcome ! There is a restaurant (Coogie9s) in the plaza for breakfast and a Starbucks for coffee and snacks, but you may want to call ahead to make sure they will be open on the holiday. Fuel is expensive in Malib so yo may want to fill p a few miles before yo arrive. There is little fuel available on the driving route unless yoo take a detour into town. There also is a serious lack of restrooms along this route. There is no shortage of bushes but not much civilization! Your best bet for an actual toilet is on Pacific Coast Highway near Las Flores Canyon Road. Keep this in mind when you9re ordering that second cup of coffee. For anyone coming from out of the area, there is a nice "Good Night Inn" in Calabasas, ten minutes from Malibu. Rates are reasonable (around $60) with AAA discounts. Details and a printable route sheet can be found here: http://www.socalbritishmotoring.com/viewtopic.php?t=250 Photos from previous events can be viewed at: http://www.socalbritishmotoring.com/2006labordayrun/ See you there! mail at socalbritishmotoring.com ****************************************************** From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 13:55:00 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:55:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC... a pool In-Reply-To: <00a101c7ea6c$1979aac0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <46D5B0FD.1030301@earthlink.net> <00a101c7ea6c$1979aac0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <43840a7e0708291255h40272a3eqb6768a948e929aef@mail.gmail.com> How about "Don't take life so serious, son -- It ain't no how permanent". - Porkypine And now, back to your regularly scheduled boredom... Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City On 8/29/07, David Lieb wrote: > > No way! I Go Pogo!!!! He's the candidate with an illustrious past, > > and who truly knows who the enemy is! And something about guns. > > Yeah, let's hear it for Walt Kelly's candidate! > > "Oh the party of the first part and the party of the next > Were partly participled in a parsley-covered text. > Were you partial to a party who has parcelled out its parts? > With lights out you may triple on a homer in the dark." > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 14:02:34 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:02:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Gaydon Sprite ledger book References: <380-22007832916452421@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <064b01c7ea77$8bdf6630$6601a8c0@actualshop> Buster: <> Pray tell, WHY don't you have your BMIHT Cert.???? A browse of my site (Special Cars & Special People --> Sprites --> Nevada Beige Cars) would have found Mike MacLean's Original Nevada Beige copy which clearly shows "Whitewall tyres"!!!! I suggest to EVERY NO, new Lister, or local new customer to get it. Case in point, chap I've known for years got a new girl friend (now happily married) came by to ordered Shop & Parts Manuals. I suggest one for her as car is re-sale red. So he had me get one. Not only was it also a WW tyre car, but Nevada Beige!! As near as I have been able to learn there are only 10 - 12 existing and only ONE in correct colour!!!! Odd things and info can be found occasionally!!!! Ed From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Aug 29 14:11:50 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:11:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC... a pool References: <46D5B0FD.1030301@earthlink.net><00a101c7ea6c$1979aac0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <43840a7e0708291255h40272a3eqb6768a948e929aef@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00cf01c7ea78$d663ac60$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > How about "Don't take life so serious, son -- It ain't no how > permanent". - Porkypine Or Churchy's immortal poem: "Oh Friday the Thirteenth came on Sunday this month So it's easy to see that it's Monday for oneth." Now that I have rounded out my collection of King Aroo (all one volume of it), I might need to get to work on acquiring some more Pogo... From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 14:16:10 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:16:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC... a pool In-Reply-To: <00cf01c7ea78$d663ac60$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <46D5B0FD.1030301@earthlink.net> <00a101c7ea6c$1979aac0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <43840a7e0708291255h40272a3eqb6768a948e929aef@mail.gmail.com> <00cf01c7ea78$d663ac60$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <43840a7e0708291316q7d206f5bx28035bb69ada7fec@mail.gmail.com> David, Don't forget your Tom Lehrer record collection... ;-) Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City P.S. David... I need to talk with you briefly RE your much appreciated help with the 50th event.... Please call me anytime on my cell 6204086877. On 8/29/07, David Lieb wrote: > > How about "Don't take life so serious, son -- It ain't no how > > permanent". - Porkypine > > Or Churchy's immortal poem: > > "Oh Friday the Thirteenth came on Sunday this month > So it's easy to see that it's Monday for oneth." > > Now that I have rounded out my collection of King Aroo > (all one volume of it), I might need to get to work on acquiring > some more Pogo... > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 14:21:09 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:21:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Record restoration In-Reply-To: <52D741BC-C7CD-43A8-AE6C-6F1CAC415CCC@valentinephoto.net> References: <46D3A644.2090807@comcast.net> <52D741BC-C7CD-43A8-AE6C-6F1CAC415CCC@valentinephoto.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0708291321y251e7846pc92130f54f758372@mail.gmail.com> On 8/29/07, K. Valentine wrote: > > It's Wednesday and I'm back in PA. My right arm is numb from the > elbow down and I have no feeling in the fingertips of my right > hand. With all that sanding you might want to check to see if you still have fingerprints on that hand.... ;-) Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City From wsthompson at thicko.com Wed Aug 29 14:29:42 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:29:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks In-Reply-To: <001201c7ea7a$c9b301d0$8834ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> References: <000601c7e98f$42bf0ac0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <004c01c7e9c2$1b741c70$7a34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <000c01c7e9c7$37878320$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <002701c7e9d5$01d2da50$7a34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <004d01c7e9d9$fdf2eec0$f9d8cc40$@com> <001201c7ea7a$c9b301d0$8834ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <003a01c7ea7b$5677fe90$0367fbb0$@com> Michael, If you're all Americanized now, this phrase should mean something to you... "cowboy up" http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cowboy+up WST -----Original Message----- From: Michael Conn [mailto:mconn2 at bright.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 3:23 PM To: Wm. Severin Thompson Cc: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks Wm., Oh, that's very nice, that is. Make a chap feel really at home, way don't you. Just expressing a feeling, and along comes the threats. Oh, well, guess I'll just have to suck it in, I'm clearly not going to get any sympathy from you all. (I learned to say "you all" at the Grand Ole Oprey. You see, I'm 100% American now.) By the way, what's a "medieval on your ass" like, and what does it do? Michael - Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: "'Michael Conn'" ; "'Glen Byrns'" Cc: "'spridgets'" Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 9:14 PM Subject: RE: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks > OK Michael... one more "woe is me" and we're gonna come over an go > medieval > on your ass (not in a Miata sort of way, of course). > > -----Original Message----- From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Aug 29 14:44:06 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:44:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost In-Reply-To: <441250190708291238of7e389etb565204ecf90203a@mail.gmail.com> References: <441250190708291225s6c553d67g30837323f1e6a8f1@mail.gmail.com> <441250190708291238of7e389etb565204ecf90203a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000101c7ea7d$58d5b2c0$6401a8c0@RobertDuquette> Ah! . Oral! . That's when you just talk about it, eh? :-) _____ From: Bill Gilroy [mailto:wmgilroy at gmail.com] Sent: August 29, 2007 3:39 PM To: Robert Duquette Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost Think oral! Hell you can eat a steak dinner if you want. On 8/29/07, Robert Duquette wrote: "Act"? You were only acting? Better not let that girl find out!! :) >From: "Bill Gilroy" < wmgilroy at gmail.com> >To: "Brad Fornal" >CC: "Robert Duquette" < robertduquette at sympatico.ca >, >spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost >Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:25:00 -0700 > >Right girl, right beer, right act, no problem. > >On 8/29/07, Brad Fornal wrote: > > > > He probably tried drinking beer, while having sex........... _______________________________________________ wmgilroy at gmail.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 14:48:40 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:48:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost In-Reply-To: <000101c7ea7d$58d5b2c0$6401a8c0@RobertDuquette> References: <441250190708291225s6c553d67g30837323f1e6a8f1@mail.gmail.com> <441250190708291238of7e389etb565204ecf90203a@mail.gmail.com> <000101c7ea7d$58d5b2c0$6401a8c0@RobertDuquette> Message-ID: Oral is what Ed and Cindy have. They scream "F you" at each other, when they pass in the hallway... Crash On 8/29/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > Ah! . Oral! . That's when you just talk about it, eh? :-) > > > > _____ > > From: Bill Gilroy [mailto:wmgilroy at gmail.com] > Sent: August 29, 2007 3:39 PM > To: Robert Duquette > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost > > > > Think oral! Hell you can eat a steak dinner if you want. > > On 8/29/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > > "Act"? You were only acting? Better not let that girl find out!! :) > > >From: "Bill Gilroy" < wmgilroy at gmail.com> > >To: "Brad Fornal" > >CC: "Robert Duquette" < robertduquette at sympatico.ca > >, > >spridgets at autox.team.net > >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost > >Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:25:00 -0700 > > > >Right girl, right beer, right act, no problem. > > > >On 8/29/07, Brad Fornal wrote: > > > > > > He probably tried drinking beer, while having sex........... > _______________________________________________ > wmgilroy at gmail.com -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From gmari2 at verizon.net Wed Aug 29 14:57:09 2007 From: gmari2 at verizon.net (gmari2 at verizon.net) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:57:09 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Grease the Gear to Drive the Tach Message-ID: <10869264.11042001188421029878.JavaMail.root@vms227.mailsrvcs.net> If you have the original style to the MKI with the band holding the two pieces together... do NOT try to open it up. You'll never get the metal band to look right. I use Lithium Grease. I went to my local pharmacy and my friend the pharmacist gave me the widest needle he had. Works great! George Marinos >From: Walt >Date: 2007/08/29 Wed PM 12:39:53 CDT >To: Spridgets at autox.team.net, midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com, bugeye at yahoogroups.com >Subject: Bugeye Group..... Grease the Gear to Drive the Tach > >I finally found a NOS Smith's Tach gearbox (the one on >the back of the generator). But since it is so old I >need to open it and replace the grease. Anybody know >what kind of grease to put in the gearbox? Any help >would be much appreciated. walt at fiberfab.com > >__________________________________________________________ >Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. >http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 > __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar If you must unsubscribe from the Bugeye Interest Group, please send an email to:CB bugeye-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com >If you no longer want to receive emails, but wish to remain a member of the group, you may go to the website and change your subscription to "Web Only" and you will not receive any emails. > > Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional > Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity CB 9 New Members CB 1 New Photos Visit Your Group Health Zone >Look your best! >Groups to help you >look & feel great. Yahoo! News >Odd News >You won't believe >it, but it's true Yahoo! Finance >It's Now Personal >Guides, news, >advice & more. . >__,_._,___ George Marinos From mconn2 at bright.net Wed Aug 29 15:00:03 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:00:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] OK, since we are all getting testy here... when insults had class References: <0d1c01c7e9dc$d2398390$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <003d01c7ea7f$92d865b0$8834ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Larry, Got a good laugh from these. Thank you. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" To: "Spridgets List" Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 9:35 PM Subject: [Spridgets] OK, since we are all getting testy here... when insults had class > Woe is me... > > > > > > > "He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire." -- > Winston > Churchill > > > > > > "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great > pleasure." -- Clarence Darrow > > > > > > "He has never been known to use a word that might send a reader to the > dictionary." -- William Faulkner (about Ernest Hemingway) > > > > > > > "I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it." -- Groucho > Marx > > > > > > "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved > of > it." - - Mark Twain > > > > > > "He has no enemies, but is intensely disliked by his friends." -- Oscar > Wilde > > > > > > "I am enclosing two tickets to the first night of my new play; bring a > friend... If you have one." -- George Bernard Shaw to Winston Churchill... > > followed by Churchill's response: "Cannot possibly attend first night, > will > attend second, if there is one." -- Winston Churchill > > > > > > "I feel so miserable without you; it's almost like having you here." -- > Stephen Bishop > > > > > > > "He is a self-made man and worships his creator." -- John Bright > > > > > > > > "I've just learned about his illness. Let's hope it's nothing trivial." -- > Irvin S. Cobb > > > > > > "He is not only dull himself; he is the cause of dullness in others." -- > Samuel Johnson > > > > > > "He is simply a shiver looking for a spine to run up." -- Paul Keating > > > > > > "He had delusions of adequacy." -- Walter Kerr > > > > > > "Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on > it?" -- > Mark Twain > > > > > > > "His mother should have thrown him away and kept the stork." -- Mae West > > > > > > > "Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go." -- > Oscar > Wilde > > > > > > > Lady Astor once remarked to Winston Churchill at a dinner party, "Winston, > if > you were my husband, I would poison your coffee!" > > > > Churchill replied, "Madam, if I were your husband I would drink it!" > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 15:00:46 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:00:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost In-Reply-To: <441250190708291140x3319e68er3fd6a62b60ef26d5@mail.gmail.com> References: <441250190708291140x3319e68er3fd6a62b60ef26d5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0708291400k1e090784pfd22e3a424669af8@mail.gmail.com> Um, I play WOW, and I have sex with a real girl. Have you ever been to a miata meet? The WOW kids have nothing to be embarassed of. On 8/29/07, Bill Gilroy wrote: > This message is overdue. Several people have asked if we made it into the > Red Bull soapbox derby. The answer is no. People are asking why we lost. > They want to know how, after we massed an army of people who voted each day > why did Team Death Trap still lose? There was a fundamental flaw in our > plan, so basic, that we were doomed from the start. The "Death Trap Army" > was made up of people like you and I. We go to work, we drink, we work on > cars, have families, and most important we can have sex. It turns out that > the winning team, "The Rust Rockets" voters were made up of a bunch of > nerds, who play the online game, "World of Warcraft". Think pasty nerds > who never leave the computer, never see the daylight, have no personal > friends, never talked to a girl and most important, never have sex. You > can't compete against an army of gaming nerds. So the reason we lost is > the "Death Trap Army" was much to normal. Thanks for voting, the first beer > is on me, now go have sex. > > Bill "the loser" Gilroy > _______________________________________________ -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata Red hardtop for sale, $950. Inquire with driver. From wsthompson at thicko.com Wed Aug 29 15:05:29 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:05:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0708291400k1e090784pfd22e3a424669af8@mail.gmail.com> References: <441250190708291140x3319e68er3fd6a62b60ef26d5@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0708291400k1e090784pfd22e3a424669af8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <003e01c7ea80$56a7cee0$03f76ca0$@com> Flash, "Inflate-a-Date" blow up dolls (with French and Greek features) don't qualify as a "real girl". Be careful on her PSI. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Flash. Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 4:01 PM To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost Um, I play WOW, and I have sex with a real girl. Have you ever been to a miata meet? The WOW kids have nothing to be embarassed of. On 8/29/07, Bill Gilroy wrote: > This message is overdue. Several people have asked if we made it into the > Red Bull soapbox derby. The answer is no. People are asking why we lost. > They want to know how, after we massed an army of people who voted each day > why did Team Death Trap still lose? There was a fundamental flaw in our > plan, so basic, that we were doomed from the start. The "Death Trap Army" > was made up of people like you and I. We go to work, we drink, we work on > cars, have families, and most important we can have sex. It turns out that > the winning team, "The Rust Rockets" voters were made up of a bunch of > nerds, who play the online game, "World of Warcraft". Think pasty nerds > who never leave the computer, never see the daylight, have no personal > friends, never talked to a girl and most important, never have sex. You > can't compete against an army of gaming nerds. So the reason we lost is > the "Death Trap Army" was much to normal. Thanks for voting, the first beer > is on me, now go have sex. > > Bill "the loser" Gilroy From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Aug 29 15:08:58 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:08:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost In-Reply-To: <000101c7ea7d$58d5b2c0$6401a8c0@RobertDuquette> References: <441250190708291225s6c553d67g30837323f1e6a8f1@mail.gmail.com> <441250190708291238of7e389etb565204ecf90203a@mail.gmail.com> <000101c7ea7d$58d5b2c0$6401a8c0@RobertDuquette> Message-ID: <4DB7F43F-DD1A-4EAF-A22F-2BF6FAADAE8C@comcast.net> Not it it's done well. In fact breathing out can be tough.. ahh Ginger... Lester On Aug 29, 2007, at 3:44 PM, Robert Duquette wrote: > Ah! . Oral! . That's when you just talk about it, eh? :-) > > > > _____ > > From: Bill Gilroy [mailto:wmgilroy at gmail.com] > Sent: August 29, 2007 3:39 PM > To: Robert Duquette > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost > > > > Think oral! Hell you can eat a steak dinner if you want. > > On 8/29/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > > "Act"? You were only acting? Better not let that girl find out!! :) > >> From: "Bill Gilroy" < wmgilroy at gmail.com> >> To: "Brad Fornal" >> CC: "Robert Duquette" < robertduquette at sympatico.ca > >, >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost >> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:25:00 -0700 >> >> Right girl, right beer, right act, no problem. >> >> On 8/29/07, Brad Fornal wrote: >>> >>> He probably tried drinking beer, while having sex........... From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 15:14:30 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:14:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost In-Reply-To: <003e01c7ea80$56a7cee0$03f76ca0$@com> References: <441250190708291140x3319e68er3fd6a62b60ef26d5@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0708291400k1e090784pfd22e3a424669af8@mail.gmail.com> <003e01c7ea80$56a7cee0$03f76ca0$@com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0708291414r33b56dcai620cc0f25bef62aa@mail.gmail.com> You really broke the mold with that comeback. Perhaps sometime you can tell everyone what bottles of ether and "the dream farm" have in common, Matt Roloff. On 8/29/07, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > Flash, > > "Inflate-a-Date" blow up dolls (with French and Greek features) don't > qualify as a "real girl". > > Be careful on her PSI. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > Flash. > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 4:01 PM > To: Spridget List > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost > > Um, I play WOW, and I have sex with a real girl. Have you ever been > to a miata meet? The WOW kids have nothing to be embarassed of. > > > On 8/29/07, Bill Gilroy wrote: > > This message is overdue. Several people have asked if we made it into the > > Red Bull soapbox derby. The answer is no. People are asking why we lost. > > They want to know how, after we massed an army of people who voted each > day > > why did Team Death Trap still lose? There was a fundamental flaw in our > > plan, so basic, that we were doomed from the start. The "Death Trap Army" > > was made up of people like you and I. We go to work, we drink, we work on > > cars, have families, and most important we can have sex. It turns out > that > > the winning team, "The Rust Rockets" voters were made up of a bunch of > > nerds, who play the online game, "World of Warcraft". Think pasty nerds > > who never leave the computer, never see the daylight, have no personal > > friends, never talked to a girl and most important, never have sex. You > > can't compete against an army of gaming nerds. So the reason we lost is > > the "Death Trap Army" was much to normal. Thanks for voting, the first > beer > > is on me, now go have sex. > > > > Bill "the loser" Gilroy > > > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata Red hardtop for sale, $950. Inquire with driver. From mconn2 at bright.net Wed Aug 29 15:22:27 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:22:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks References: <821892.23966.qm@web36809.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <007d01c7ea82$b3c5ef10$8834ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> David, Did that mean you replaced the shower curtain in your home with the one you found? Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: David Booker To: Glen Byrns ; Michael Conn Cc: Spridgets Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks "Most of us would never do any of these terrible things to our treasured little Spridgets. But for a dented Triumph however.............." Speaking of old Triumphs... While prepping the body of a MKIII Spitfire I restored about 20 years ago, I found the driver side sill filled with a wadded-up plastic shower curtain. Definitely stronger material than Burger King or Taco Bell wrappers, but not nearly as environmentally friendly. - David > List. > > The stories about how to fill in holes in our spridgets are really quite > depressing, don't you think. Surely it's much more satisfying to do the > job properly (i.e. buy replacement panels or whatever). The first e-mail > or so depressed me, so I'm just hitting delete now. We're to preserve > our > LBC's are we not? Don't send me e-mails full of abuse, I'll just hit > delete every time I see one. > > Sorry, feel a bit serious about this topic (not to mention depressed)! > > Michael _______________________________________________ tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. From Daniel1312 at aol.com Wed Aug 29 15:23:23 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:23:23 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost Message-ID: Yeah but we didn't lose but much did we? Is that good or bad? In a message dated 29/08/07 19:41:23 GMT Daylight Time, wmgilroy at gmail.com writes: > > This message is overdue. Several people have asked if we made it into the > Red Bull soapbox derby. The answer is no. People are asking why we lost. > They want to know how, after we massed an army of people who voted each day > why did Team Death Trap still lose? There was a fundamental flaw in our > plan, so basic, that we were doomed from the start. The "Death Trap Army" > was made up of people like you and I. We go to work, we drink, we work on > cars, have families, and most important we can have sex. It turns out that > the winning team, "The Rust Rockets" voters were made up of a bunch of > nerds, who play the online game, "World of Warcraft". Think pasty nerds > who never leave the computer, never see the daylight, have no personal > friends, never talked to a girl and most important, never have sex. You > can't compete against an army of gaming nerds. So the reason we lost is > the "Death Trap Army" was much to normal. Thanks for voting, the first beer > is on me, now go have sex. > > Bill "the loser" Gilroy > _______________________________________________ From froggi60 at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 15:29:03 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:29:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] THINGS THAT MAKE YOU SAY DAMN! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10708291429v720ab2dcy1fd72a97a58b8f3b@mail.gmail.com> * Things that make you say "DAMN" And last but not least.... "DAMN" * [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of file001.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of file000.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of file006.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of file005.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of file003.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Thingsth.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of file004.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of file002.jpg] From mconn2 at bright.net Wed Aug 29 15:31:25 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:31:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] The Gaydon Sprite ledger book References: <380-22007832916452421@earthlink.net> <064b01c7ea77$8bdf6630$6601a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <00aa01c7ea83$f4b4e660$8834ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> As I understand it (and assuming you are in the US) that AN5's for exported from England had white wall ties as standard. (My AN5 has white wall tires turned round so that the white wall is facing inwards.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "63AHBJ7" <63ahbj7 at gmail.com> To: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The Gaydon Sprite ledger book > Buster: > > < equipped > with whitewall tires on it when I purchased it new. >> > > Pray tell, WHY don't you have your BMIHT Cert.???? > > A browse of my site > (Special Cars & Special People --> Sprites --> Nevada Beige Cars) > would have found Mike MacLean's Original Nevada Beige copy which clearly > shows > "Whitewall tyres"!!!! > > I suggest to EVERY NO, new Lister, or local new customer to get it. Case > in > point, chap I've known for years got a new girl friend (now happily > married) > came by to ordered Shop & Parts Manuals. I suggest one for her as car is > re-sale red. > So he had me get one. Not only was it also a WW tyre car, but Nevada > Beige!! > As near as I have been able to learn there are only 10 - 12 existing and > only > ONE in correct colour!!!! > > Odd things and info can be found occasionally!!!! > > Ed > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From froggi60 at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 15:37:42 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:37:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Moments of Reason...... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10708291437j45309cc0m3905a5b1a58a1c01@mail.gmail.com> For my fellow 'old farts'... Herb *Subject: Moments of Reason......* ** *Power Point Presentation --- use your mouse roller or click * *your mouse to advance each picture or saying --- Marv * [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/vnd] From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Aug 29 15:39:28 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:39:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] It's red Message-ID: <46D5E790.7060105@comcast.net> Kevin Your Midget is painted, well 2 coats so far, body looks real good. 4 or 5 more coats to go. Let's hope those Taco Bell wrappers hold the paint. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From mconn2 at bright.net Wed Aug 29 15:36:20 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:36:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks References: <000601c7e98f$42bf0ac0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <004c01c7e9c2$1b741c70$7a34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <000c01c7e9c7$37878320$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <002701c7e9d5$01d2da50$7a34ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <004d01c7e9d9$fdf2eec0$f9d8cc40$@com> <001201c7ea7a$c9b301d0$8834ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <003a01c7ea7b$5677fe90$0367fbb0$@com> Message-ID: <00cc01c7ea86$0536c060$8834ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Wm., Tell me, please. How can I be 100% American, if I don't know what it means. Is it related to ".............and the horse you rode in on"? Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: "'Michael Conn'" Cc: "'spridgets'" Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 4:29 PM Subject: RE: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks > Michael, > > If you're all Americanized now, this phrase should mean something to > you... > > "cowboy up" > > http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cowboy+up > > WST > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Conn [mailto:mconn2 at bright.net] > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 3:23 PM > To: Wm. Severin Thompson > Cc: spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks > > Wm., > > Oh, that's very nice, that is. Make a chap feel really at home, way > don't > you. Just expressing a feeling, and along comes the threats. Oh, well, > guess I'll just have to suck it in, I'm clearly not going to get any > sympathy from you all. (I learned to say "you all" at the Grand Ole > Oprey. > > You see, I'm 100% American now.) > > By the way, what's a "medieval on your ass" like, and what does it do? > > Michael > > - Original Message ----- > From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" > To: "'Michael Conn'" ; "'Glen Byrns'" > > Cc: "'spridgets'" > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 9:14 PM > Subject: RE: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks > > >> OK Michael... one more "woe is me" and we're gonna come over an go >> medieval >> on your ass (not in a Miata sort of way, of course). >> >> -----Original Message----- From wsthompson at thicko.com Wed Aug 29 15:47:25 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:47:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0708291414r33b56dcai620cc0f25bef62aa@mail.gmail.com> References: <441250190708291140x3319e68er3fd6a62b60ef26d5@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0708291400k1e090784pfd22e3a424669af8@mail.gmail.com> <003e01c7ea80$56a7cee0$03f76ca0$@com> <8a336b9d0708291414r33b56dcai620cc0f25bef62aa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <005a01c7ea86$326dea90$9749bfb0$@com> Ed... I mean, Potsie, ... I mean Flash, You've really jumped the shark (2nd "Happy Days" reference for those counting during this discourse) with that obscure Matt Roloff stuff. It isn't going to strike a chord with old folks like me (and the rest of this list) . But, if goats, "dwarfs", and Blow Up Betty trip your trigger, have at it son. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Flash. Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 4:15 PM To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost You really broke the mold with that comeback. Perhaps sometime you can tell everyone what bottles of ether and "the dream farm" have in common, Matt Roloff. On 8/29/07, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > Flash, > > "Inflate-a-Date" blow up dolls (with French and Greek features) don't > qualify as a "real girl". > > Be careful on her PSI. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > Flash. > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 4:01 PM > To: Spridget List > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost > > Um, I play WOW, and I have sex with a real girl. Have you ever been > to a miata meet? The WOW kids have nothing to be embarassed of. > > > On 8/29/07, Bill Gilroy wrote: > > This message is overdue. Several people have asked if we made it into the > > Red Bull soapbox derby. The answer is no. People are asking why we lost. > > They want to know how, after we massed an army of people who voted each > day > > why did Team Death Trap still lose? There was a fundamental flaw in our > > plan, so basic, that we were doomed from the start. The "Death Trap Army" > > was made up of people like you and I. We go to work, we drink, we work on > > cars, have families, and most important we can have sex. It turns out > that > > the winning team, "The Rust Rockets" voters were made up of a bunch of > > nerds, who play the online game, "World of Warcraft". Think pasty nerds > > who never leave the computer, never see the daylight, have no personal > > friends, never talked to a girl and most important, never have sex. You > > can't compete against an army of gaming nerds. So the reason we lost is > > the "Death Trap Army" was much to normal. Thanks for voting, the first > beer > > is on me, now go have sex. > > > > Bill "the loser" Gilroy From wsthompson at thicko.com Wed Aug 29 15:48:18 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:48:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] It's red In-Reply-To: <46D5E790.7060105@comcast.net> References: <46D5E790.7060105@comcast.net> Message-ID: <005b01c7ea86$516eed90$f44cc8b0$@com> The Burrito wrappers seem to have the best "bulk". -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 4:39 PM To: K. Valentine; Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] It's red Kevin Your Midget is painted, well 2 coats so far, body looks real good. 4 or 5 more coats to go. Let's hope those Taco Bell wrappers hold the paint. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ _______________________________________________ From wsthompson at thicko.com Wed Aug 29 15:57:55 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:57:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] It's red Larry In-Reply-To: <46D5E790.7060105@comcast.net> References: <46D5E790.7060105@comcast.net> Message-ID: <005d01c7ea87$aa083e60$fe18bb20$@com> Hey Frank, What kind of paint are you using? Larry "Mr. Peepers" is going to have to make some purchase decisions regarding paint choice soon. My painting chops are pretty old... last time I painted it was with Centari... WST -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 4:39 PM To: K. Valentine; Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] It's red Kevin Your Midget is painted, well 2 coats so far, body looks real good. 4 or 5 more coats to go. Let's hope those Taco Bell wrappers hold the paint. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ _______________________________________________ wsthompson at thicko.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mconn2 at bright.net Wed Aug 29 16:02:08 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:02:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Moments of Reason...... References: <2ad6c6b10708291437j45309cc0m3905a5b1a58a1c01@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <010b01c7ea88$3f14ad40$8834ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Herb, As I'm 100% American I've always wanted to start a conversation with at least two other Americans: "My fellow Americans ..............". I'm actually very posh so I'd be allowed to do that! (I don't believe those to whom I'm talking would make remarks about a horse wot I rode in on.) Michael Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "WFO Herb" To: "Ed's Spridgeteers" <9issa at justbrits.com>; "Spridgeteers" Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 5:37 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Moments of Reason...... > For my fellow 'old farts'... > Herb > > > > *Subject: Moments of Reason......* > ** > *Power Point Presentation --- use your mouse roller or click * > *your mouse to advance each picture or saying --- Marv * > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/vnd] > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pelliott at innercite.com Wed Aug 29 16:04:04 2007 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Pat) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:04:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] THINGS THAT MAKE YOU SAY DAMN! In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10708291429v720ab2dcy1fd72a97a58b8f3b@mail.gmail.com> References: <2ad6c6b10708291429v720ab2dcy1fd72a97a58b8f3b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000f01c7ea88$96b16b10$7f57670a@edgewireless.com> You can't send Photos to the list, But you can send them directly to me.. -----Original Message----- From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 16:28:32 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:28:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost In-Reply-To: <005a01c7ea86$326dea90$9749bfb0$@com> References: <441250190708291140x3319e68er3fd6a62b60ef26d5@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0708291400k1e090784pfd22e3a424669af8@mail.gmail.com> <003e01c7ea80$56a7cee0$03f76ca0$@com> <8a336b9d0708291414r33b56dcai620cc0f25bef62aa@mail.gmail.com> <005a01c7ea86$326dea90$9749bfb0$@com> Message-ID: WST, it is obvious that Flash is hooked on reality TV. Watching to much TLC, I assume. He probably got hooked on Little People, Big World, cuz it came on after his all time favorite show "what not to wear". On 8/29/07, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > Ed... I mean, Potsie, ... I mean Flash, > > You've really jumped the shark (2nd "Happy Days" reference for those > counting during this discourse) with that obscure Matt Roloff stuff. It > isn't going to strike a chord with old folks like me (and the rest of this > list) . But, if goats, "dwarfs", and Blow Up Betty trip your trigger, have > at it son. > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > Flash. > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 4:15 PM > To: Spridget List > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost > > You really broke the mold with that comeback. Perhaps sometime you > can tell everyone what bottles of ether and "the dream farm" have in > common, Matt Roloff. > > On 8/29/07, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > > Flash, > > > > "Inflate-a-Date" blow up dolls (with French and Greek features) don't > > qualify as a "real girl". > > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 16:29:22 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:29:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] It's red In-Reply-To: <005b01c7ea86$516eed90$f44cc8b0$@com> References: <46D5E790.7060105@comcast.net> <005b01c7ea86$516eed90$f44cc8b0$@com> Message-ID: If they were bean burritos, it's generally all air...... On 8/29/07, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > The Burrito wrappers seem to have the best "bulk". > > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > Frank Clarici > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 4:39 PM > To: K. Valentine; Spridgets > Subject: [Spridgets] It's red > > Kevin > Your Midget is painted, well 2 coats so far, body looks real good. > 4 or 5 more coats to go. > Let's hope those Taco Bell wrappers hold the paint. > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Aug 29 16:32:43 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:32:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] It's red Larry In-Reply-To: <005d01c7ea87$aa083e60$fe18bb20$@com> References: <46D5E790.7060105@comcast.net> <005d01c7ea87$aa083e60$fe18bb20$@com> Message-ID: <46D5F40B.2070103@comcast.net> Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > Hey Frank, > > What kind of paint are you using? Single stage urethane over urethane primer. No clear coat, easy to touch up WHEN you get a scratch or chip and it will never have that peeling clear coat look to it. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Aug 29 16:33:46 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:33:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost In-Reply-To: References: <441250190708291140x3319e68er3fd6a62b60ef26d5@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0708291400k1e090784pfd22e3a424669af8@mail.gmail.com> <003e01c7ea80$56a7cee0$03f76ca0$@com> <8a336b9d0708291414r33b56dcai620cc0f25bef62aa@mail.gmail.com> <005a01c7ea86$326dea90$9749bfb0$@com> Message-ID: <46D5F44A.8030704@comcast.net> Brad Fornal wrote: > WST, it is obvious that Flash is hooked on reality TV. Watching to > much TLC, I assume. > He probably got hooked on Little People, Big World, cuz it came on > after his all time favorite show "what not to wear". Brad how do you know when all those shows come on? ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From grday at btinternet.com Wed Aug 29 16:36:11 2007 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:36:11 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks References: <821892.23966.qm@web36809.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004f01c7ea8d$0051d600$61118656@tairswork> You need the shower curtain more in a TR3 than a Spridget. Unless you bonnet flies open around 40mph, dents the front panel under the screen and it's raining. (Don't ask, just don't ask!) GRD ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Booker" To: "Glen Byrns" ; "Michael Conn" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks > "Most of us would never do any of these terrible things to our treasured > little Spridgets. But for a dented Triumph however.............." > > > Speaking of old Triumphs... While prepping the body of a MKIII Spitfire > I restored about 20 years ago, I found the driver side sill filled with a > wadded-up plastic shower curtain. Definitely stronger material than > Burger King or Taco Bell wrappers, but not nearly as environmentally > friendly. > - David > > > > > > > >> List. >> >> The stories about how to fill in holes in our spridgets are really quite >> depressing, don't you think. Surely it's much more satisfying to do the >> job properly (i.e. buy replacement panels or whatever). The first e-mail >> or so depressed me, so I'm just hitting delete now. We're to preserve >> our >> LBC's are we not? Don't send me e-mails full of abuse, I'll just hit >> delete every time I see one. >> >> Sorry, feel a bit serious about this topic (not to mention depressed)! >> >> Michael > _______________________________________________ > tncarnut1 at yahoo.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > > --------------------------------- > Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's > on, when. > _______________________________________________ > grday at btinternet.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wmgilroy at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 16:38:57 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:38:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost In-Reply-To: <46D5F44A.8030704@comcast.net> References: <441250190708291140x3319e68er3fd6a62b60ef26d5@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0708291400k1e090784pfd22e3a424669af8@mail.gmail.com> <003e01c7ea80$56a7cee0$03f76ca0$@com> <8a336b9d0708291414r33b56dcai620cc0f25bef62aa@mail.gmail.com> <005a01c7ea86$326dea90$9749bfb0$@com> <46D5F44A.8030704@comcast.net> Message-ID: <441250190708291538q21b3bdedxb60b7618ed1863e3@mail.gmail.com> And worst then that the order that they appear. On 8/29/07, Frank Clarici wrote: > > Brad Fornal wrote: > > Brad how do you know when all those shows come on? ;) From wmgilroy at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 16:39:53 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:39:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost In-Reply-To: <441250190708291538q21b3bdedxb60b7618ed1863e3@mail.gmail.com> References: <441250190708291140x3319e68er3fd6a62b60ef26d5@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0708291400k1e090784pfd22e3a424669af8@mail.gmail.com> <003e01c7ea80$56a7cee0$03f76ca0$@com> <8a336b9d0708291414r33b56dcai620cc0f25bef62aa@mail.gmail.com> <005a01c7ea86$326dea90$9749bfb0$@com> <46D5F44A.8030704@comcast.net> <441250190708291538q21b3bdedxb60b7618ed1863e3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <441250190708291539o2c522894ue40acd50a97e63b@mail.gmail.com> This has really digressed from a simple thank you. Fire up your kill button Mr. Intolerant. -g On 8/29/07, Bill Gilroy wrote: > > And worst then that the order that they appear. > > On 8/29/07, Frank Clarici wrote: > > > > Brad Fornal wrote: > > > > Brad how do you know when all those shows come on? ;) From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 16:41:46 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:41:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost In-Reply-To: <46D5F44A.8030704@comcast.net> References: <441250190708291140x3319e68er3fd6a62b60ef26d5@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0708291400k1e090784pfd22e3a424669af8@mail.gmail.com> <003e01c7ea80$56a7cee0$03f76ca0$@com> <8a336b9d0708291414r33b56dcai620cc0f25bef62aa@mail.gmail.com> <005a01c7ea86$326dea90$9749bfb0$@com> <46D5F44A.8030704@comcast.net> Message-ID: I have a 22 year old daughter that watched that crap constantly! On 8/29/07, Frank Clarici wrote: > Brad Fornal wrote: > > WST, it is obvious that Flash is hooked on reality TV. Watching to > > much TLC, I assume. > > He probably got hooked on Little People, Big World, cuz it came on > > after his all time favorite show "what not to wear". > > Brad how do you know when all those shows come on? ;) > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From grday at btinternet.com Wed Aug 29 16:46:09 2007 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:46:09 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] THINGS THAT MAKE YOU SAY DAMN! References: <2ad6c6b10708291429v720ab2dcy1fd72a97a58b8f3b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00da01c7ea8e$65172620$61118656@tairswork> Having your pictures take away..... ----- Original Message ----- From: "WFO Herb" To: "Ed's Spridgeteers" <9issa at justbrits.com>; "Spridgeteers" Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 10:29 PM Subject: [Spridgets] THINGS THAT MAKE YOU SAY DAMN! > * Things that make you say "DAMN" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And last but not least.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > "DAMN" > > > > > > * > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > file001.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > file000.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > file006.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > file005.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > file003.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > Thingsth.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > file004.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > file002.jpg] > _______________________________________________ > grday at btinternet.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Aug 29 16:45:30 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:45:30 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The Gaydon Sprite ledger book Message-ID: <380-220078329224530843@earthlink.net> 63AHBJ7 wrote: "Pray tell, WHY don't you have your BMIHT Cert.????" You have not been listening all these years! Since this list was started, I have been saying that when Anders Ditlev Clausanger wrote to me on September 11, 1985, the BMIHT had not yet dreamed up the certificates. Besides, I was only interested in the build dates, and since I bought the car new, I already *knew* what was original equipment! Even then, his letter was wrong and listed only "Rev. Counter, Windscreen Washer, Heater, Front Bumper, Tonneau Cover". So I knew his letter was in error about the whitewalls. Besides that, I don't even *need* no stinkin' certificate! Buster From Daniel1312 at aol.com Wed Aug 29 16:47:52 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:47:52 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Cross flow radiator Silicone hose kits Message-ID: Hi List, About a year ago I had tooling and Silicone hoses made for the water pump hose and top hose for the crossflow radiator Sprite/Midget. Hoses were made in black, blue and purple but probably can be made in green or grey as well. Currently it looks like I'll have a few orders so I can have another batch made - any interest please contact me directly off list. Regards Daniel From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Aug 29 16:58:59 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:58:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The Gaydon Sprite ledger book Message-ID: <380-220078329225859765@earthlink.net> Michael Conn wrote: "My AN5 has white wall tires turned round so that the white wall is facing inwards." Back in the early 1960's, many people reversed their tires so that the white walls did not destract from the car as "too American". Also, most of those cars that were raced did this, as well. Buster Evan From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 17:10:53 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:10:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost In-Reply-To: References: <441250190708291140x3319e68er3fd6a62b60ef26d5@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0708291400k1e090784pfd22e3a424669af8@mail.gmail.com> <003e01c7ea80$56a7cee0$03f76ca0$@com> <8a336b9d0708291414r33b56dcai620cc0f25bef62aa@mail.gmail.com> <005a01c7ea86$326dea90$9749bfb0$@com> <46D5F44A.8030704@comcast.net> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0708291610x78d94a51yab7a79f0872e1ee0@mail.gmail.com> The best part of the whole thing is how you're all pretending you don't know what I'm talking about. I know for a fact with all you retirement aged codgers on this list there's nothing to do all day but watch reality TV. It's not like you can drive your broken cars around... Though you could always go to Matt Roloff's midget farm and let him boss you around with his crutches. On 8/29/07, Brad Fornal wrote: > I have a 22 year old daughter that watched that crap constantly! > > On 8/29/07, Frank Clarici wrote: > > Brad Fornal wrote: > > > WST, it is obvious that Flash is hooked on reality TV. Watching to > > > much TLC, I assume. > > > He probably got hooked on Little People, Big World, cuz it came on > > > after his all time favorite show "what not to wear". > > > > Brad how do you know when all those shows come on? ;) > > > > -- > > Frank Clarici > > Toms River, NJ > > > > > -- > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata Red hardtop for sale, $950. Inquire with driver. From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Aug 29 17:10:30 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:10:30 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] It's red Larry Message-ID: <380-220078329231030203@earthlink.net> Wm. Severin Thompson: "last time I painted it was with Centari..." Frank said he doesn't like it, and that as an Italian, his palette prefers Chianti From froggi60 at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 17:19:07 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:19:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Collective Wisdom.... Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10708291619v2bebb94cg6fe332427d777a50@mail.gmail.com> Anyone familiar with the Cadillac SLS? I am considering purchasing a 'cherry', low mileage car and have (very) little knowledge of this model or Northstar V8 engine. Sure seems to have its share of power...good thing! I know there is a STS that has more of a 'sport' suspension, but this suites me fine. TIA Herb From pilotrob at msn.com Wed Aug 29 17:22:03 2007 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:22:03 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Grease the Gear to Drive the Tach Message-ID: White lithium or graphite...something light I would imagine? CapBob From wsthompson at thicko.com Wed Aug 29 17:24:34 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:24:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] It's red Larry In-Reply-To: <46D5F40B.2070103@comcast.net> References: <46D5E790.7060105@comcast.net> <005d01c7ea87$aa083e60$fe18bb20$@com> <46D5F40B.2070103@comcast.net> Message-ID: <007301c7ea93$c4329590$4c97c0b0$@com> Yeah, but what brand? -----Original Message----- From: Frank Clarici [mailto:spritenut at comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 5:33 PM To: Wm. Severin Thompson Cc: 'K. Valentine'; 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] It's red Larry Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > Hey Frank, > > What kind of paint are you using? Single stage urethane over urethane primer. No clear coat, easy to touch up WHEN you get a scratch or chip and it will never have that peeling clear coat look to it. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 17:46:57 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:46:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Gaydon Sprite ledger book References: <380-220078329224530843@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <030601c7ea96$e3a788b0$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> I not only KNOW that be recall your email, Buster!!!! <> Agreed BUT, VERY cool frameable item!!! And WAY better wall hanging than a pic of Frank wearing the "wheel chock" as a HAT!!!!! LOL Ed PS: And if yer too cheap, perhaps Miss Pam would spring for one as a "father's day" Gift!!!! From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Wed Aug 29 17:49:18 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:49:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] It's red Larry References: <46D5E790.7060105@comcast.net> <005d01c7ea87$aa083e60$fe18bb20$@com> Message-ID: <030c01c7ea97$37a1a450$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> Which was a GREAT paint, Flounder!!! Would still be better than the crud they call Imron today according to one of my Fire/Rescue Manufacturer buddies!! EPA my A**!! From dmg at bossig.com Wed Aug 29 17:50:58 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:50:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost In-Reply-To: References: <441250190708291140x3319e68er3fd6a62b60ef26d5@mail.gmail.com>, <46D5F44A.8030704@comcast.net>, Message-ID: <46D5A3F2.20095.B043A8@dmg.bossig.com> I well remember that, in the days of my youth, I would spend much time chasing the girls... But now, sitting here in my chair, I'll be damned if I can remember what I was supposed to do if I caught one!! - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From mconn2 at bright.net Wed Aug 29 18:15:31 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 20:15:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost References: <441250190708291140x3319e68er3fd6a62b60ef26d5@mail.gmail.com><8a336b9d0708291400k1e090784pfd22e3a424669af8@mail.gmail.com><003e01c7ea80$56a7cee0$03f76ca0$@com><8a336b9d0708291414r33b56dcai620cc0f25bef62aa@mail.gmail.com><005a01c7ea86$326dea90$9749bfb0$@com><46D5F44A.8030704@comcast.net> Message-ID: <002b01c7ea9a$e15a4080$8334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> I have a 65 year old wife who does the same! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Fornal" To: "Frank Clarici" Cc: "Spridget List" Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost >I have a 22 year old daughter that watched that crap constantly! > > On 8/29/07, Frank Clarici wrote: >> Brad Fornal wrote: >> > WST, it is obvious that Flash is hooked on reality TV. Watching to >> > much TLC, I assume. >> > He probably got hooked on Little People, Big World, cuz it came on >> > after his all time favorite show "what not to wear". >> >> Brad how do you know when all those shows come on? ;) >> >> -- >> Frank Clarici >> Toms River, NJ >> > > > -- > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mconn2 at bright.net Wed Aug 29 18:17:33 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 20:17:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks Message-ID: <003201c7ea9b$29be8250$8334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Guy, I know you said not to ask, but I'm curious, just curious, that's all. You can tell me I won't tell............. Michael From mconn2 at bright.net Wed Aug 29 18:31:27 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 20:31:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] The Gaydon Sprite ledger book References: <380-220078329224530843@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <004701c7ea9d$1b013ee0$8334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Buster, Yes, you do, you know you do. That's what this is all about. Admit it! Admit that you want a stinkin" certificate. On page 41 Horler's "Original Sprite & Midget The Restorer's Guide" is the sentence: "White-wall tyres became became an option on North American market Sprites". Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Bruce Evans" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The Gaydon Sprite ledger book > 63AHBJ7 wrote: "Pray tell, WHY don't you have your BMIHT Cert.????" > > You have not been listening all these years! Since this list was > started, I have been saying that when Anders Ditlev Clausanger wrote to me > on September 11, 1985, the BMIHT had not yet dreamed up the certificates. > Besides, I was only interested in the build dates, and since I bought the > car new, I already *knew* what was original equipment! Even then, his > letter was wrong and listed only "Rev. Counter, Windscreen Washer, Heater, > Front Bumper, Tonneau Cover". So I knew his letter was in error about the > whitewalls. > > Besides that, I don't even *need* no stinkin' certificate! > > Buster > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mconn2 at bright.net Wed Aug 29 18:34:48 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 20:34:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost References: <441250190708291140x3319e68er3fd6a62b60ef26d5@mail.gmail.com>, <46D5F44A.8030704@comcast.net>, <46D5A3F2.20095.B043A8@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <005401c7ea9d$93279b80$8334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Dave, I found they could out-run my AN5! Now I have a 1960 AN5 I've discovered older ones' can out-run it. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G." To: "Spridget List" Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost >I well remember that, in the days of my youth, I would spend much time > chasing the girls... > > But now, sitting here in my chair, I'll be damned if I can remember what I > was supposed to do if I caught one!! > > > - > Dave G > '65 MKIII Sprite > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dwoerpel at wi.net Wed Aug 29 18:49:05 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 19:49:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Autocross last Saturday In-Reply-To: <00a501c7ea6c$5259e8a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <00a501c7ea6c$5259e8a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <46D61401.4050404@wi.net> Dave, Is that Barney at the wheel of the MGA? Dave Burlington WI David Lieb wrote: > Shameless self-promotion... > A friend of mine just emailed me that footage of two of my runs at last > Saturday's Miata Club autocross are on Youtube... > http://www.youtube.com/clementinemini > David Lieb > 1972 RWA Midget From mconn2 at bright.net Wed Aug 29 18:57:43 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 20:57:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] The Gaydon Sprite ledger book References: <380-220078329225859765@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <006801c7eaa0$c6a4e230$8334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Buster, That's interesting. It's like a piece of folk lore, don't you think? Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Bruce Evans" To: "Michael Conn" ; "63AHBJ7" <63ahbj7 at gmail.com> Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The Gaydon Sprite ledger book > Michael Conn wrote: "My AN5 has white wall tires turned round so that the > white wall is facing inwards." > > Back in the early 1960's, many people reversed their tires so that the > white walls did not destract from the car as "too American". Also, most > of > those cars that were raced did this, as well. > > Buster Evan From mconn2 at bright.net Wed Aug 29 19:01:02 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 21:01:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost References: <441250190708291140x3319e68er3fd6a62b60ef26d5@mail.gmail.com><8a336b9d0708291400k1e090784pfd22e3a424669af8@mail.gmail.com><003e01c7ea80$56a7cee0$03f76ca0$@com><8a336b9d0708291414r33b56dcai620cc0f25bef62aa@mail.gmail.com><005a01c7ea86$326dea90$9749bfb0$@com><46D5F44A.8030704@comcast.net> <8a336b9d0708291610x78d94a51yab7a79f0872e1ee0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <006d01c7eaa1$3cc869f0$8334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Flash, Okay, I'll ask, what are you talking about? Are you the aged codger referred to. I'm sorry the battery has gone in my hearing aid, and I can't understand what you're on about. Sorry. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Flash." To: "Spridget List" Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost > The best part of the whole thing is how you're all pretending you > don't know what I'm talking about. I know for a fact with all you > retirement aged codgers on this list there's nothing to do all day but > watch reality TV. It's not like you can drive your broken cars > around... > > Though you could always go to Matt Roloff's midget farm and let him > boss you around with his crutches. > > On 8/29/07, Brad Fornal wrote: >> I have a 22 year old daughter that watched that crap constantly! >> >> On 8/29/07, Frank Clarici wrote: >> > Brad Fornal wrote: >> > > WST, it is obvious that Flash is hooked on reality TV. Watching to >> > > much TLC, I assume. >> > > He probably got hooked on Little People, Big World, cuz it came on >> > > after his all time favorite show "what not to wear". >> > >> > Brad how do you know when all those shows come on? ;) >> > >> > -- >> > Frank Clarici >> > Toms River, NJ >> > >> >> >> -- >> www.myspace.com/tequilabrad >> _______________________________________________ > >> > > > -- > http://btdtracing.com > 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata > Red hardtop for sale, $950. Inquire with driver. > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Aug 29 19:05:02 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 20:05:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Autocross last Saturday References: <00a501c7ea6c$5259e8a0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <46D61401.4050404@wi.net> Message-ID: <04de01c7eaa1$cbeadeb0$0201a8c0@midget> > Is that Barney at the wheel of the MGA? It certainly is. Take my advice and don't ask him about race rubber for an MGA ;-) From pdx.pete at verizon.net Wed Aug 29 19:32:51 2007 From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (pdxpete) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:32:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] More humour? References: Message-ID: <004501c7eaa5$ae697a00$b20b6f47@DBKF4T81> I rear ended a car this morning... I just knew it was going to be a really bad day. The driver got out of the other car, and it turns out he was a dwarf. He looked up at me and said "I am NOT happy!" So I said, "Well, which one are you then?" And that's how the fight started... From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 19:41:08 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 19:41:08 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] More humour? In-Reply-To: <004501c7eaa5$ae697a00$b20b6f47@DBKF4T81> References: <004501c7eaa5$ae697a00$b20b6f47@DBKF4T81> Message-ID: <5f00d9910708291841t32363ca6p5330c9f246ef6c96@mail.gmail.com> You shoulda known it would be Grumpy. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Aug 29 19:55:38 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 20:55:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost References: <441250190708291140x3319e68er3fd6a62b60ef26d5@mail.gmail.com><8a336b9d0708291400k1e090784pfd22e3a424669af8@mail.gmail.com><003e01c7ea80$56a7cee0$03f76ca0$@com><8a336b9d0708291414r33b56dcai620cc0f25bef62aa@mail.gmail.com><005a01c7ea86$326dea90$9749bfb0$@com><46D5F44A.8030704@comcast.net> <8a336b9d0708291610x78d94a51yab7a79f0872e1ee0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <01be01c7eaa8$ddcc5670$6401a8c0@Larry> Flash, why are you even on this list? You don't own a Spridget and all you do is try to irritate the valid listers. Why don't you just go away? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Flash." To: "Spridget List" Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost The best part of the whole thing is how you're all pretending you don't know what I'm talking about. I know for a fact with all you retirement aged codgers on this list there's nothing to do all day but watch reality TV. It's not like you can drive your broken cars around... Though you could always go to Matt Roloff's midget farm and let him boss you around with his crutches. On 8/29/07, Brad Fornal wrote: > I have a 22 year old daughter that watched that crap constantly! > > On 8/29/07, Frank Clarici wrote: > > Brad Fornal wrote: > > > WST, it is obvious that Flash is hooked on reality TV. Watching to > > > much TLC, I assume. > > > He probably got hooked on Little People, Big World, cuz it came on > > > after his all time favorite show "what not to wear". > > > > Brad how do you know when all those shows come on? ;) > > > > -- > > Frank Clarici > > Toms River, NJ > > > > > -- > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata Red hardtop for sale, $950. Inquire with driver. _______________________________________________ ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Aug 29 20:04:05 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 19:04:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The Gaydon Sprite ledger book Message-ID: <380-220078430245531@earthlink.net> Michael Conn: "Admit that you want a stinkin" certificate." Naw, I don't want or need no stinkin' certificate, cause I have what not many others have. Two personal *letters* from Clausager, each typed and signed by himself before most people had even known who he was. And put something like a "certificate" on the wall? I don't even know where my degrees, diplomas, etc. are. And a certificate would clash with our western cowboy art. Incidently, do any others have the letters that Clausanger sent out before they had certificates? Buste From r_l_campion at hotmail.com Wed Aug 29 20:14:14 2007 From: r_l_campion at hotmail.com (Bob & Linda) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 22:14:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Record restoration References: <46D3A644.2090807@comcast.net> <52D741BC-C7CD-43A8-AE6C-6F1CAC415CCC@valentinephoto.net> Message-ID: I know the feeling well. Mine has been out everyday since inspection, and a few before she was completely "legal", but that added a little extra excitement. Bob C > Oh yeah, tomorrow while Kevin is sanding, I'll go get the paint. I've probably worked on 75 or 80 different Spridgets over the last few years, but this was the most fun I've had working on these cars in a long time. (Probably because this one is mine ;) Kevin V. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Aug 29 20:16:50 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 21:16:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Gaydon Sprite ledger book References: <380-220078430245531@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <01cc01c7eaab$d3d35c60$6401a8c0@Larry> Yeah, but, Buster, you admitted that the letters were incorrect. So, what good are they? Wallpaper? Bragging rights? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Bruce Evans" To: "Michael Conn" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The Gaydon Sprite ledger book Michael Conn: "Admit that you want a stinkin" certificate." Naw, I don't want or need no stinkin' certificate, cause I have what not many others have. Two personal *letters* from Clausager, each typed and signed by himself before most people had even known who he was. And put something like a "certificate" on the wall? I don't even know where my degrees, diplomas, etc. are. And a certificate would clash with our western cowboy art. Incidently, do any others have the letters that Clausanger sent out before they had certificates? Buste _______________________________________________ ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Aug 29 20:23:01 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 19:23:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The Gaydon Sprite ledger book Message-ID: <380-2200784302231390@earthlink.net> Larry Daniels wrote: "So, what good are they? Wallpaper? Bragging rights?" Memories, Larry, memories. Buster From dmg at bossig.com Wed Aug 29 20:32:22 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 19:32:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Rib cage tranny on eBay Message-ID: <46D5C9C6.11711.14407B8@dmg.bossig.com> I thought I read an email that someone is looking for a good rib-cage tranny... SO I thought I'd pass this on.. NFI, etc.. Ebay #130147849131 ANd if no-one else wants it, I might try to get it cheap (fat chance) - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Aug 29 20:46:21 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 21:46:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Gaydon Sprite ledger book References: <380-2200784302231390@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <01d901c7eaaf$f35fb2a0$6401a8c0@Larry> Shouldn't that be "false memories"? I will reserve judgment on the rest of your "memories". ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Bruce Evans" To: "Larry Daniels" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The Gaydon Sprite ledger book Larry Daniels wrote: "So, what good are they? Wallpaper? Bragging rights?" Memories, Larry, memories. Buster From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Wed Aug 29 20:57:04 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 21:57:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Gaydon Sprite ledger book In-Reply-To: <380-220078430245531@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <200708300254.l7U2sKPF017770@ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com> As a matter of fact, I do. Just dug it out of the papers that came with mine. Its signed even. Looks like it was sent out in '88. Its still in the red and blue airmail envelope. Wild, I guess I had Whitewall Tyres too. Chris 66 MKIII -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Bruce Evans Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:04 PM To: Michael Conn Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The Gaydon Sprite ledger book Michael Conn: "Admit that you want a stinkin" certificate." Naw, I don't want or need no stinkin' certificate, cause I have what not many others have. Two personal *letters* from Clausager, each typed and signed by himself before most people had even known who he was. And put something like a "certificate" on the wall? I don't even know where my degrees, diplomas, etc. are. And a certificate would clash with our western cowboy art. Incidently, do any others have the letters that Clausanger sent out before they had certificates? Buste _______________________________________________ cmanuel at wi.rr.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Aug 29 21:35:51 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:35:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] The Gaydon Sprite ledger book In-Reply-To: <380-220078430245531@earthlink.net> References: <380-220078430245531@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <46D63B17.8010709@comcast.net> Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > Michael Conn: "Admit that you want a stinkin" certificate." > > Naw, I don't want or need no stinkin' certificate, cause I have what not > many others have. Two personal *letters* from Clausager, each typed and > signed by himself before most people had even known who he was. And put > something like a "certificate" on the wall? I don't even know where my > degrees, diplomas, etc. are. And a certificate would clash with our > western cowboy art. > > Incidently, do any others have the letters that Clausanger sent out before > they had certificates? Yeah I do. And a later certificate, and when I was there with Buster, I hand wrote the info on my 58 on an Austin letterhead note paper. Copied by me out of the hand written ledgers onto genuine reproduced Austin paper. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 22:00:34 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:00:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Gaydon Sprite ledger book In-Reply-To: <46D63B17.8010709@comcast.net> References: <380-220078430245531@earthlink.net> <46D63B17.8010709@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0708292100o6f5ae567o23e47614082ebbf4@mail.gmail.com> On 8/29/07, Frank Clarici wrote: > Yeah I do. > And a later certificate, and when I was there with Buster, I hand wrote > the info on my 58 on an Austin letterhead note paper. > Copied by me out of the hand written ledgers onto genuine reproduced > Austin paper. Yeah, but the pen was probably made in China, Frank... That or the ink in it. Chances are the ink will disappear in a few years.... ;-) Cheers!! Jim 68 Midget in Dodge City From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Aug 29 22:15:29 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 21:15:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The Gaydon Sprite ledger book Message-ID: <380-22007843041529453@earthlink.net> Chris wrote: "As a matter of fact, I do. Just dug it out of the papers that came with mine. Its signed even. Looks like it was sent out in '88. Its still in the red and blue airmail envelope." Isn't that a hoot? And what a piece of memorabilia shared by few others. Buste From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Aug 29 22:26:24 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 21:26:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The Gaydon Sprite ledger book Message-ID: <380-22007843042624140@earthlink.net> Frank wrote: "...and when I was there with Buster, I hand wrote the info on my 58 on an Austin letterhead note paper. Copied by me out of the hand written ledgers onto genuine reproduced Austin paper." Didn't you find there was something in the book that wasn't on the letter or certificate? Or was it something else we were asking them about? (I still have not found their private e-mail so we could thank them.) Buster From dwramsey at att.net Thu Aug 30 01:55:00 2007 From: dwramsey at att.net (dwramsey at att.net) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 07:55:00 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost Message-ID: <083020070755.12150.46D677D3000F2ED100002F762160280741970A9C030E9D990B@att.net> I can assure you I have nothing to do with this, just a couple of hours ago THEY let me out. I was on the flightdeck at the VA hospital for the last two months. The new meds are working wel llllllllllllll. trc (the real) Crash -------------- Original message from "Brad Fornal" : -------------- > Oral is what Ed and Cindy have. > They scream "F you" at each other, when they pass in the hallway... > > Crash From grday at btinternet.com Thu Aug 30 06:23:53 2007 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 13:23:53 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks References: <003201c7ea9b$29be8250$8334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <008e01c7eb00$a1705750$df099356@tairswork> Oh yes you will. GRD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Conn" To: "spridgets" Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 1:17 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks > Guy, > > I know you said not to ask, but I'm curious, just curious, that's all. > You can tell me I won't tell............. > > Michael > _______________________________________________ > grday at btinternet.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Thu Aug 30 07:06:15 2007 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 06:06:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks In-Reply-To: <007d01c7ea82$b3c5ef10$8834ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <297415.80049.qm@web36811.mail.mud.yahoo.com> "Did that mean you replaced the shower curtain in your home with the one you found?" As much as I may have been tempted to keep and use it, I did the right thing and sent it to my brand new ex-wife (along with most of the rest of the household furnishings...) - David Michael Conn wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: David Booker To: Glen Byrns ; Michael Conn Cc: Spridgets Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks "Most of us would never do any of these terrible things to our treasured little Spridgets. But for a dented Triumph however.............." Speaking of old Triumphs... While prepping the body of a MKIII Spitfire I restored about 20 years ago, I found the driver side sill filled with a wadded-up plastic shower curtain. Definitely stronger material than Burger King or Taco Bell wrappers, but not nearly as environmentally friendly. - David > List. > > The stories about how to fill in holes in our spridgets are really quite > depressing, don't you think. Surely it's much more satisfying to do the > job properly (i.e. buy replacement panels or whatever). The first e-mail > or so depressed me, so I'm just hitting delete now. We're to preserve > our > LBC's are we not? Don't send me e-mails full of abuse, I'll just hit > delete every time I see one. > > Sorry, feel a bit serious about this topic (not to mention depressed)! > > Michael _______________________________________________ tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. --------------------------------- Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Aug 30 07:16:06 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 13:16:06 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Mini Limo Message-ID: I pass this on as a curiousity. NFI http://www.spridgetmania.com/web/id/7237/Cars4Sale_Detail.cfm RD From mgraziano at austin.rr.com Thu Aug 30 07:21:30 2007 From: mgraziano at austin.rr.com (MGraziano) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 08:21:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [9issa] Collective Wisdom.... In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10708291619v2bebb94cg6fe332427d777a50@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <007e01c7eb08$ae0494b0$6901a8c0@andrometer> Cadillac is about the best of the bunch (GM), but it's still a GM. The Northstar is supposed to be one of the best V8s out there. I would be more worried about fit and finish. I remember when the new Eldorados came out with the Northstar. Everyone oo'd and ah'd about the engine, and no-one noticed how every Eldorado had water vapor in their tail lights after 2 or 3 months. What I'm getting at is pay more attention to other issues with the car than the engine/tranny. It will give you the least trouble. Mike _____ From: 9issa-bounces at justbrits.com [mailto:9issa-bounces at justbrits.com] On Behalf Of WFO Herb Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 6:19 PM To: Spridgeteers; Ed's Spridgeteers Subject: [9issa] Collective Wisdom.... Anyone familiar with the Cadillac SLS? I am considering purchasing a 'cherry', low mileage car and have (very) little knowledge of this model or Northstar V8 engine. Sure seems to have its share of power...good thing! I know there is a STS that has more of a 'sport' suspension, but this suites me fine. TIA Herb From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Thu Aug 30 08:04:48 2007 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:04:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] The Gaydon Sprite ledger book Message-ID: <2560673.1188482688281.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Good mornin' Buster, Yes, I have two of the letters from him with the special envelopes and Air mail stamps. In the early 90's I had a Sebring that I needed info on. It was an iris blue rhd with all of the interesting DMH as well as BMC race goodies. I should have kept it. I had to have my series one Lotus Seven instead. About the same level of rarity. Mike C -----Original Message----- >From: Robert Bruce Evans >Sent: Aug 29, 2007 10:04 PM >To: Michael Conn >Cc: Spridgets >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The Gaydon Sprite ledger book > >Michael Conn: "Admit that you want a stinkin" certificate." > >Naw, I don't want or need no stinkin' certificate, cause I have what not >many others have. Two personal *letters* from Clausager, each typed and >signed by himself before most people had even known who he was. And put >something like a "certificate" on the wall? I don't even know where my >degrees, diplomas, etc. are. And a certificate would clash with our >western cowboy art. > >Incidently, do any others have the letters that Clausanger sent out before >they had certificates? > > ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From dwoerpel at wi.net Thu Aug 30 11:45:03 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:45:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Gaydon Sprite ledger book In-Reply-To: <380-220078430245531@earthlink.net> References: <380-220078430245531@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <46D7021F.7010607@wi.net> Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > Incidently, do any others have the letters that Clausanger sent out before > they had certificates? > > Buster > > As a matter of fact I have two, complete in their /Par Avion/ envelopes mailed from Studley Warwickshire, one for Sprite and one for MGA. The Sprite's 2 page letter is dated: 15 June 1981. The top page has the response to several inquiries. 17606 came with windscreen washer, rev counter, tonneau cover, WHITE WALL TYRES, and heater. As some may know I'm one of the originality freaks, however, in tribute to the previous owner, who made me promise to never use the front bumper, I do not have it on the car but on the shelf. In his last spirited run with the car he had to panic stop and his head snapped back against the unpadded roll-over bar and he became a quadriplegic. He was quite a guy and cared for the Sprite, he did a background on me and after several conversations was assured that I would love the car as much as he. Regarding the white walls, simple why I don't have those. My son threatened to disown me if I put them on. I like them (generation gap!) with the leaf green and am thinking of getting a set mounted on separate wheels. Talking about Anders brings up some old questions regarding numbers. Does the number stamped on the right fender under the main wiring loom match anyone's chassis number? Anders stated that this is "probably" a commission number. Any of you one time owners verify? Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS Burlington WI From bpazur at excel.net Thu Aug 30 12:44:23 2007 From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 13:44:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost References: <441250190708291140x3319e68er3fd6a62b60ef26d5@mail.gmail.com><8a336b9d0708291400k1e090784pfd22e3a424669af8@mail.gmail.com><003e01c7ea80$56a7cee0$03f76ca0$@com><8a336b9d0708291414r33b56dcai620cc0f25bef62aa@mail.gmail.com><005a01c7ea86$326dea90$9749bfb0$@com><46D5F44A.8030704@comcast.net><8a336b9d0708291610x78d94a51yab7a79f0872e1ee0@mail.gmail.com> <01be01c7eaa8$ddcc5670$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <000701c7eb35$c9e17ae0$cee767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> > Flash, why are you even on this list? You don't own a Spridget and all you > do is try to irritate the valid listers. Why don't you just go away? > > > Ahh...Larry, I vote to keep him on list. He's articulate, if somewhat acerbic and asymmtotic. In terms of a good Bell's Theorem non-local interaction, he's unmediated, unmitigated, and immediate. Just what this list is all about. And lastly - I think Flounder would miss him. Bud Mr. White - 1275 Street Bugeye SilverStreak - 1275 Race Sprite ************************************************************************ "The Buddha... resides as comfortably in the gears of a...transmission as he does in the petals of a flower" - Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Aug 30 12:38:27 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 13:38:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost In-Reply-To: <000701c7eb35$c9e17ae0$cee767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> References: <441250190708291140x3319e68er3fd6a62b60ef26d5@mail.gmail.com><8a336b9d0708291400k1e090784pfd22e3a424669af8@mail.gmail.com><003e01c7ea80$56a7cee0$03f76ca0$@com><8a336b9d0708291414r33b56dcai620cc0f25bef62aa@mail.gmail.com><005a01c7ea86$326dea90$9749bfb0$@com><46D5F44A.8030704@comcast.net><8a336b9d0708291610x78d94a51yab7a79f0872e1ee0@mail.gmail.com> <01be01c7eaa8$ddcc5670$6401a8c0@Larry> <000701c7eb35$c9e17ae0$cee767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> Message-ID: <001401c7eb34$f62dc550$e2894ff0$@com> Nah... probably not. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bud Pazur Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 1:44 PM To: Larry Daniels; Flash.; Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost > Flash, why are you even on this list? You don't own a Spridget and all you > do is try to irritate the valid listers. Why don't you just go away? > > > Ahh...Larry, I vote to keep him on list. He's articulate, if somewhat acerbic and asymmtotic. In terms of a good Bell's Theorem non-local interaction, he's unmediated, unmitigated, and immediate. Just what this list is all about. And lastly - I think Flounder would miss him. Bud Mr. White - 1275 Street Bugeye SilverStreak - 1275 Race Sprite ************************************************************************ "The Buddha... resides as comfortably in the gears of a...transmission as he does in the petals of a flower" - Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance _______________________________________________ wsthompson at thicko.com From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Thu Aug 30 12:40:30 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 13:40:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost In-Reply-To: <001401c7eb34$f62dc550$e2894ff0$@com> References: <441250190708291140x3319e68er3fd6a62b60ef26d5@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0708291414r33b56dcai620cc0f25bef62aa@mail.gmail.com> <005a01c7ea86$326dea90$9749bfb0$@com> <46D5F44A.8030704@comcast.net> <8a336b9d0708291610x78d94a51yab7a79f0872e1ee0@mail.gmail.com> <01be01c7eaa8$ddcc5670$6401a8c0@Larry> <000701c7eb35$c9e17ae0$cee767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> <001401c7eb34$f62dc550$e2894ff0$@com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0708301140n5b5db5bdnff170f3c929f9cdf@mail.gmail.com> Who's going to show you the racing line if I'm gone? On 8/30/07, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > Nah... probably not. > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > Bud Pazur > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 1:44 PM > To: Larry Daniels; Flash.; Spridget List > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost > > > Flash, why are you even on this list? You don't own a Spridget and all > you > > do is try to irritate the valid listers. Why don't you just go away? > > > > > > > Ahh...Larry, I vote to keep him on list. He's articulate, if somewhat > acerbic and asymmtotic. In terms of a good Bell's Theorem non-local > interaction, he's unmediated, unmitigated, and immediate. Just what this > list is all about. > > And lastly - I think Flounder would miss him. > > Bud > > Mr. White - 1275 Street Bugeye > SilverStreak - 1275 Race Sprite > ************************************************************************ > "The Buddha... resides as comfortably in the gears of a...transmission as he > does in the petals of a flower" > > - Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance > _______________________________________________ > wsthompson at thicko.com > > -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata Red hardtop for sale, $950. Inquire with driver. From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu Aug 30 13:05:06 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:05:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] More humour? In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910708291841t32363ca6p5330c9f246ef6c96@mail.gmail.com> References: <004501c7eaa5$ae697a00$b20b6f47@DBKF4T81> <5f00d9910708291841t32363ca6p5330c9f246ef6c96@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10708301205y30a9a4b6g1e5ed79ab539a4d2@mail.gmail.com> Not nice calling little people "it". ;-) From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Thu Aug 30 13:11:31 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:11:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] More humour? In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10708301205y30a9a4b6g1e5ed79ab539a4d2@mail.gmail.com> References: <004501c7eaa5$ae697a00$b20b6f47@DBKF4T81> <5f00d9910708291841t32363ca6p5330c9f246ef6c96@mail.gmail.com> <2ad6c6b10708301205y30a9a4b6g1e5ed79ab539a4d2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0708301211n680453e7s712cc9a3c2b31d0f@mail.gmail.com> I always thought "little people" was degrading until I realized the change in vernacular coincides with the release of that awful little car. On 8/30/07, WFO Herb wrote: > Not nice calling little people "it". ;-) -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata Red hardtop for sale, $950. Inquire with driver. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Aug 30 13:44:23 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:44:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost References: <441250190708291140x3319e68er3fd6a62b60ef26d5@mail.gmail.com><8a336b9d0708291400k1e090784pfd22e3a424669af8@mail.gmail.com><003e01c7ea80$56a7cee0$03f76ca0$@com><8a336b9d0708291414r33b56dcai620cc0f25bef62aa@mail.gmail.com><005a01c7ea86$326dea90$9749bfb0$@com><46D5F44A.8030704@comcast.net><8a336b9d0708291610x78d94a51yab7a79f0872e1ee0@mail.gmail.com><01be01c7eaa8$ddcc5670$6401a8c0@Larry> <000701c7eb35$c9e17ae0$cee767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> Message-ID: <013f01c7eb3e$2b9cbb20$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >> Flash, why are you even on this list? You don't own a Spridget and all you do is try to irritate the valid listers. Why don't you just go away? > Ahh...Larry, I vote to keep him on list. He's articulate, if somewhat > acerbic and asymmtotic. In terms of a good Bell's Theorem non-local > interaction, he's unmediated, unmitigated, and immediate. Just what this > list is all about. > And lastly - I think Flounder would miss him. You have to realize that Flash is the lightning rod. If he were to go away, Flounder would have the time to annoy the rest of us. After all, Spridget ownership is not a requirement on this list, is it? IIRC, Flounder started it with his deliberately inflammatory remarks about people who drive Miatas, in blissful disregard of the fact that most of these things used to be said about people who drive Spridgets. The remarks were uncalled for, but they did elicit a response and that is all that it takes to start a pissing contest. No one in history has actually won a pissing contest; they are simply a test to see which person comes to their senses first. Two losers so far... As a member of the Windy City Miata Club as well as one of the autocross coordinators AND the newsletter editor, I can assure you that the ranks of Miata owners include many different kinds of people from former Heavey Healey owners to hair dressers to real people. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Aug 30 14:09:12 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:09:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost In-Reply-To: <013f01c7eb3e$2b9cbb20$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <441250190708291140x3319e68er3fd6a62b60ef26d5@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0708291414r33b56dcai620cc0f25bef62aa@mail.gmail.com> <005a01c7ea86$326dea90$9749bfb0$@com> <46D5F44A.8030704@comcast.net> <8a336b9d0708291610x78d94a51yab7a79f0872e1ee0@mail.gmail.com> <01be01c7eaa8$ddcc5670$6401a8c0@Larry> <000701c7eb35$c9e17ae0$cee767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> <013f01c7eb3e$2b9cbb20$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: I vote we keep Flash on the list. I see him as an "Ed in training" If we ever lose Ed, the spirit will still live on. Larry Macy On 8/30/07, David Lieb wrote: > >> Flash, why are you even on this list? You don't own a Spridget and all > you do is try to irritate the valid listers. Why don't you just go away? > > > Ahh...Larry, I vote to keep him on list. He's articulate, if somewhat > > acerbic and asymmtotic. In terms of a good Bell's Theorem non-local > > interaction, he's unmediated, unmitigated, and immediate. Just what this > > list is all about. > > And lastly - I think Flounder would miss him. > > You have to realize that Flash is the lightning rod. If he were to go > away, Flounder would have the time to annoy the rest of us. > After all, Spridget ownership is not a requirement on this list, is it? > > IIRC, Flounder started it with his deliberately inflammatory remarks > about people who drive Miatas, in blissful disregard of the fact > that most of these things used to be said about people who drive > Spridgets. The remarks were uncalled for, but they did elicit a > response and that is all that it takes to start a pissing contest. > No one in history has actually won a pissing contest; they are > simply a test to see which person comes to their senses first. > Two losers so far... > > As a member of the Windy City Miata Club as well as one of the > autocross coordinators AND the newsletter editor, I can assure > you that the ranks of Miata owners include many different > kinds of people from former Heavey Healey owners to hair > dressers to real people. > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Aug 30 14:36:41 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:36:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost part 1 In-Reply-To: <013f01c7eb3e$2b9cbb20$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <441250190708291140x3319e68er3fd6a62b60ef26d5@mail.gmail.com><8a336b9d0708291400k1e090784pfd22e3a424669af8@mail.gmail.com><003e01c7ea80$56a7cee0$03f76ca0$@com><8a336b9d0708291414r33b56dcai620cc0f25bef62aa@mail.gmail.com><005a01c7ea86$326dea90$9749bfb0$@com><46D5F44A.8030704@comcast.net><8a336b9d0708291610x78d94a51yab7a79f0872e1ee0@mail.gmail.com><01be01c7eaa8$ddcc5670$6401a8c0@Larry> <000701c7eb35$c9e17ae0$cee767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> <013f01c7eb3e$2b9cbb20$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <004301c7eb45$7a884450$6f98ccf0$@com> Reply part 1 " Flounder would have the time to annoy the rest of us." Yeah, lucky for you, I'm too busy promoting Sprite ownership, restoration, racing, etc. This is the Spridget list, right? I've compared Flash to Ed, and trust me, there are plenty others that see the similarity. " Flounder started it with his deliberately inflammatory remarks about people who drive Miatas" In fact, I described Team Thicko as a "homo club". It says so on the entrance to the shop. We're not threatened by it. Perhaps you shouldn't be. I also pointed out numerous web sites that listed Miatas as the choice of many folks of a certain sexual persuasion (not that there's anything wrong with that...). It is kind of funny to hear a few guys with a combined racing experience of a couple years brag about lap times in cars designed and built 40 to 50 years after Spridgets were. " blissful disregard of the fact that most of these things used to be said about people who drive Spridgets. " I think not. It would be rare to find me "blissful", or ignorant to facts regarding Sprite ownership, etc. 35 years of Healey ownership here, and witnessed all sorts of Sprite prejudice in that time. "The remarks were uncalled for" Says you. You make your remarks, I'll make mine. Now, if I was as mean or insensitive you're portraying me, I'd say something like "if I want you to speak for me, I'll shove my arm up your ass and make a ventriloquist's dummy out of you". But, that might be considered both inflammatory, uncalled for, and some sort of veiled closet Miata owner activity reference. So, let the record show I didn't say that. " No one in history has actually won a pissing contest;" That's a matter of opinion. All the dribblers say that. " Two losers so far..." I think I might consider that inflammatory. " to hairdressers to real people." Hairdressers aren't real people? From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Aug 30 14:37:48 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:37:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost reply 2 In-Reply-To: <013f01c7eb3e$2b9cbb20$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <441250190708291140x3319e68er3fd6a62b60ef26d5@mail.gmail.com><8a336b9d0708291400k1e090784pfd22e3a424669af8@mail.gmail.com><003e01c7ea80$56a7cee0$03f76ca0$@com><8a336b9d0708291414r33b56dcai620cc0f25bef62aa@mail.gmail.com><005a01c7ea86$326dea90$9749bfb0$@com><46D5F44A.8030704@comcast.net><8a336b9d0708291610x78d94a51yab7a79f0872e1ee0@mail.gmail.com><01be01c7eaa8$ddcc5670$6401a8c0@Larry> <000701c7eb35$c9e17ae0$cee767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> <013f01c7eb3e$2b9cbb20$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <004401c7eb45$a253f330$e6fbd990$@com> Reply part 2 For the record, I think Miatas are well put together, neatly engineered cars. I drove one belonging to a customer the first year they came out. They're pretty, but considering the timeframe they were designed and built, rather gutless and lacking soul. I've always been offended by the Japanese inability to design something original. They'd rather confiscate or appropriate something successful and do what they consider "improvements" on them. You could touch up the Mona Lisa... but you still aren't the artist, are you? Obviously there are many influences in the design of the Miata, and certainly the Lotus Elan is one of them. Ever driven an Elan? If so, you'd see the Miata as a poor stepchild. Having said that... is the Bugeye a derivative? Well, Geoff was influenced by the unibody design of the D Jag. They saw a need for an inexpensive sports car. Not sure you can say it was designed to look like anything else though. When I say things like that regarding Geoff, I'm not talking out of my ass. I knew him. He was a friend. We talked at length about many subjects. I know Gerry Coker... he penned the body. I knew Roger Menadue... he built the prototypes and race cars. The fact that Healeys bore the name of the people that designed them and raced them is one of my greatest attractions to these cars. Bottom line is, there are no comparisons between a Sprite and a Miata...to do so insults the Sprite. WST From caws52803 at aol.com Thu Aug 30 14:43:23 2007 From: caws52803 at aol.com (caws52803 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:43:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost reply 2 In-Reply-To: <004401c7eb45$a253f330$e6fbd990$@com> References: <441250190708291140x3319e68er3fd6a62b60ef26d5@mail.gmail.com><8a336b9d0708291400k1e090784pfd22e3a424669af8@mail.gmail.com><003e01c7ea80$56a7cee0$03f76ca0$@com><8a336b9d0708291414r33b56dcai620cc0f25bef62aa@mail.gmail.com><005a01c7ea86$326dea90$9749bfb0$@com><46D5F44A.8030704@comcast.net><8a336b9d0708291610x78d94a51yab7a79f0872e1ee0@mail.gmail.com><01be01c7eaa8$ddcc5670$6401a8c0@Larry> <000701c7eb35$c9e17ae0$cee767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> <013f01c7eb3e$2b9cbb20$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <004401c7eb45$a253f330$e6fbd990$@com> Message-ID: <8C9B95D8AEA72C3-C48-DB9@MBLK-M33.sysops.aol.com> When we ran the Post Conclave Tour in New England in 1981, a Bugeye broke down right at the start and the driver rented a Miata.? He could not get everything packed into the Miata. Rudy in NC -----Original Message----- From: Wm. Severin Thompson To: 'Spridget List' Sent: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 4:37 pm Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost reply 2 Reply part 2 For the record, I think Miatas are well put together, neatly engineered cars. I drove one belonging to a customer the first year they came out. They're pretty, but considering the timeframe they were designed and built, rather gutless and lacking soul. I've always been offended by the Japanese inability to design something original. They'd rather confiscate or appropriate something successful and do what they consider "improvements" on them. You could touch up the Mona Lisa... but you still aren't the artist, are you? Obviously there are many influences in the design of the Miata, and certainly the Lotus Elan is one of them. Ever driven an Elan? If so, you'd see the Miata as a poor stepchild. Having said that... is the Bugeye a derivative? Well, Geoff was influenced by the unibody design of the D Jag. They saw a need for an inexpensive sports car. Not sure you can say it was designed to look like anything else though. When I say things like that regarding Geoff, I'm not talking out of my ass. I knew him. He was a friend. We talked at length about many subjects. I know Gerry Coker... he penned the body. I knew Roger Menadue... he built the prototypes and race cars. The fact that Healeys bore the name of the people that designed them and raced them is one of my greatest attractions to these cars. Bottom line is, there are no comparisons between a Sprite and a Miata...to do so insults the Sprite. WST _______________________________________________ caws52803 at aol.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Aug 30 14:54:15 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:54:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost reply 2 References: <441250190708291140x3319e68er3fd6a62b60ef26d5@mail.gmail.com><8a336b9d0708291400k1e090784pfd22e3a424669af8@mail.gmail.com><003e01c7ea80$56a7cee0$03f76ca0$@com><8a336b9d0708291414r33b56dcai620cc0f25bef62aa@mail.gmail.com><005a01c7ea86$326dea90$9749bfb0$@com><46D5F44A.8030704@comcast.net><8a336b9d0708291610x78d94a51yab7a79f0872e1ee0@mail.gmail.com><01be01c7eaa8$ddcc5670$6401a8c0@Larry><000701c7eb35$c9e17ae0$cee767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH><013f01c7eb3e$2b9cbb20$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <004401c7eb45$a253f330$e6fbd990$@com> Message-ID: <01c201c7eb47$ed6c6da0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Sorry, Flounder, I refuse to sink to your level. I would like to believe that at least a few people on this list have enough intelligence to see through all that guff. I could be wrong about that, too. Nonetheless, let the record show that I would rather see the List as a friendly environment united in our love of cats... or is that our hatred for cats? I keep forgetting. David Lieb From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Aug 30 14:58:14 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:58:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost part 1 References: <441250190708291140x3319e68er3fd6a62b60ef26d5@mail.gmail.com><8a336b9d0708291400k1e090784pfd22e3a424669af8@mail.gmail.com><003e01c7ea80$56a7cee0$03f76ca0$@com><8a336b9d0708291414r33b56dcai620cc0f25bef62aa@mail.gmail.com><005a01c7ea86$326dea90$9749bfb0$@com><46D5F44A.8030704@comcast.net><8a336b9d0708291610x78d94a51yab7a79f0872e1ee0@mail.gmail.com><01be01c7eaa8$ddcc5670$6401a8c0@Larry><000701c7eb35$c9e17ae0$cee767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH><013f01c7eb3e$2b9cbb20$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <004301c7eb45$7a884450$6f98ccf0$@com> Message-ID: <01cb01c7eb48$7c40c260$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > I've compared Flash to Ed, > and trust me, there are plenty others that see the similarity. Hey, I am sure that either Ed or Flash should be mortally offended right about now. Not quite sure which one. From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Aug 30 15:07:03 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:07:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost reply 2 In-Reply-To: <01c201c7eb47$ed6c6da0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <441250190708291140x3319e68er3fd6a62b60ef26d5@mail.gmail.com><8a336b9d0708291400k1e090784pfd22e3a424669af8@mail.gmail.com><003e01c7ea80$56a7cee0$03f76ca0$@com><8a336b9d0708291414r33b56dcai620cc0f25bef62aa@mail.gmail.com><005a01c7ea86$326dea90$9749bfb0$@com><46D5F44A.8030704@comcast.net><8a336b9d0708291610x78d94a51yab7a79f0872e1ee0@mail.gmail.com><01be01c7eaa8$ddcc5670$6401a8c0@Larry><000701c7eb35$c9e17ae0$cee767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH><013f01c7eb3e$2b9cbb20$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <004401c7eb45$a253f330$e6fbd990$@com> <01c201c7eb47$ed6c6da0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <006c01c7eb49$b94ade60$2be09b20$@com> Now ya see Dave, when you say "refuse to sink to your level", that is in itself, inflammatory, and insulting. I guess when you have such a superior, enlightened attitude, it's hard seeing the folks you perceive as beneath you. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 3:54 PM To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost reply 2 Sorry, Flounder, I refuse to sink to your level. I would like to believe that at least a few people on this list have enough intelligence to see through all that guff. I could be wrong about that, too. Nonetheless, let the record show that I would rather see the List as a friendly environment united in our love of cats... or is that our hatred for cats? I keep forgetting. David Lieb From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Aug 30 15:17:04 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:17:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost reply 2 References: <441250190708291140x3319e68er3fd6a62b60ef26d5@mail.gmail.com><8a336b9d0708291400k1e090784pfd22e3a424669af8@mail.gmail.com><003e01c7ea80$56a7cee0$03f76ca0$@com><8a336b9d0708291414r33b56dcai620cc0f25bef62aa@mail.gmail.com><005a01c7ea86$326dea90$9749bfb0$@com><46D5F44A.8030704@comcast.net><8a336b9d0708291610x78d94a51yab7a79f0872e1ee0@mail.gmail.com><01be01c7eaa8$ddcc5670$6401a8c0@Larry><000701c7eb35$c9e17ae0$cee767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH><013f01c7eb3e$2b9cbb20$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <004401c7eb45$a253f330$e6fbd990$@com> Message-ID: <01d601c7eb4b$1d3c3cb0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Having said that... is the Bugeye a derivative? Well, Geoff was influenced > by the unibody design of the D Jag. They saw a need for an inexpensive > sports car. ... > Bottom line is, there are no comparisons between a Sprite and a Miata...to > do so insults the Sprite. And that was one of the primary motivations for the Miata as well, so you seem to be contradicting yourself again. In fact, there are many valid comparisons between the Sprte and the Miata. No, they are not the same. Yes, the Miata benefits from the existence of the Sprite as well as from a whole lot of technology developed since. No, they did not throw a V8 into the Miata; does that make it gutless? Perhaps. It is still fun to drive. Sure they gave it independent rear suspension, 4-wheel disk brakes, a synchro on first gear and a fifth (and sixth on some) gear to say nothing of complying with the current safety regulations. It might not be as great as an Elan, although I doubt that anyone would dispute that Elan ownership is not for the faint of heart, but it is significantly better than an MGB in stock form. The Miata has been an affordable top-down sportscar for over 15 years now. You cannot perceive its soul, but there are plenty of other people who can. > Now ya see Dave, when you say "refuse to sink to your level", that is in > itself, inflammatory, and insulting. I guess when you have such a > superior, > enlightened attitude, it's hard seeing the folks you perceive as beneath > you. There you go again. It still isn't working, but it is fun to watch you wiggle. Some people say the same thing about the fact that I tend to use reasonably correct grammar, mostly correct spelling and words that are not frequently heard on race tracks. Oh well. I didn't say I was superior. You are a far better race driver than I could ever be. You are a much better mechanic than I am. Oh yes, I am also jealous of the track in your front yard. If you feel inferior, I certainly don't see why ;-}You are a nice guy and I do appreciate a lot of what you have done for Sprites, but you and Ed both tend to be a little weak when it comes to getting your feelings down in an email. Oops, did I compare you to Ed? I must apologize to one of you immediately. David Lieb 1972 MG Midget From wmgilroy at gmail.com Thu Aug 30 15:30:03 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:30:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost In-Reply-To: <013f01c7eb3e$2b9cbb20$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <441250190708291140x3319e68er3fd6a62b60ef26d5@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0708291414r33b56dcai620cc0f25bef62aa@mail.gmail.com> <005a01c7ea86$326dea90$9749bfb0$@com> <46D5F44A.8030704@comcast.net> <8a336b9d0708291610x78d94a51yab7a79f0872e1ee0@mail.gmail.com> <01be01c7eaa8$ddcc5670$6401a8c0@Larry> <000701c7eb35$c9e17ae0$cee767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> <013f01c7eb3e$2b9cbb20$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <441250190708301430w4dfa967cuc46f2d07aad0ec2b@mail.gmail.com> David, That last bit implies that both Big Healey owners and hair dressers are not real people. On 8/30/07, David Lieb wrote: > > > I can assure > you that the ranks of Miata owners include many different > kinds of people from former Heavey Healey owners to hair > dressers to real people. From heard at datatrontech.net Thu Aug 30 15:33:36 2007 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:33:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost In-Reply-To: <441250190708301430w4dfa967cuc46f2d07aad0ec2b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070830213726.DNJB4058.cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com@heard> You know, if I was a hairdresser I would just want to slap someone right now! -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+heard=datatrontech.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+heard=datatrontech.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Gilroy Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 5:30 PM To: David Lieb Cc: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost David, That last bit implies that both Big Healey owners and hair dressers are not real people. On 8/30/07, David Lieb wrote: > > > I can assure > you that the ranks of Miata owners include many different > kinds of people from former Heavey Healey owners to hair > dressers to real people. _______________________________________________ heard at datatrontech.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu Aug 30 15:37:35 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:37:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wheel chocks Message-ID: Cat lovers...this is for us! http://3boysproductions.com/chinese_food_song.htm From heard at datatrontech.net Thu Aug 30 15:34:25 2007 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:34:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost part 1 In-Reply-To: <01cb01c7eb48$7c40c260$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <20070830213815.YUW3980.cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com@heard> Well, this is getting interesting. I'm pretty new to this list and I've never met any of you....but I can't wait. Heard -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+heard=datatrontech.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+heard=datatrontech.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 4:58 PM To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost part 1 > I've compared Flash to Ed, > and trust me, there are plenty others that see the similarity. Hey, I am sure that either Ed or Flash should be mortally offended right about now. Not quite sure which one. _______________________________________________ heard at datatrontech.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Aug 30 15:38:44 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:38:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost References: <441250190708291140x3319e68er3fd6a62b60ef26d5@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0708291414r33b56dcai620cc0f25bef62aa@mail.gmail.com> <005a01c7ea86$326dea90$9749bfb0$@com> <46D5F44A.8030704@comcast.net> <8a336b9d0708291610x78d94a51yab7a79f0872e1ee0@mail.gmail.com> <01be01c7eaa8$ddcc5670$6401a8c0@Larry> <000701c7eb35$c9e17ae0$cee767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> <013f01c7eb3e$2b9cbb20$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <441250190708301430w4dfa967cuc46f2d07aad0ec2b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <01e501c7eb4e$24a79f50$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > That last bit implies that both Big Healey owners and hair dressers are > not > real people. How about we consider them imaginary stereotypes? I have found a surprising percentage of them to be just like real human beings ;-} From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Aug 30 15:41:02 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:41:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost References: <20070830213726.DNJB4058.cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com@heard> Message-ID: <02d701c7eb4e$770214b0$6401a8c0@Larry> If you were a big Healey owner, you would slap Ed. LAD (who just likes to watch the fur fly) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heard Saxon" Cc: "'Spridget List'" Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost You know, if I was a hairdresser I would just want to slap someone right now! From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Aug 30 15:43:37 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:43:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Team Death Trap Lost reply 2 Message-ID: <007d01c7eb4e$d445f740$7cd1e5c0$@com> Dave, Neither did I say you're superior, or that I in any way feel inferior. But you do take a superior tone with your remarks, and, opinions, being what they're worth, are likely to side with me on that (based on the 10 or so private mails I've got in response). Having said that, you're still my friend, and welcome here any time. WST (and all my gay friends... both real, and pretending... on the gay part, that is) -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 4:17 PM To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost reply 2 > Having said that... is the Bugeye a derivative? Well, Geoff was influenced > by the unibody design of the D Jag. They saw a need for an inexpensive > sports car. ... > Bottom line is, there are no comparisons between a Sprite and a Miata...to > do so insults the Sprite. And that was one of the primary motivations for the Miata as well, so you seem to be contradicting yourself again. In fact, there are many valid comparisons between the Sprte and the Miata. No, they are not the same. Yes, the Miata benefits from the existence of the Sprite as well as from a whole lot of technology developed since. No, they did not throw a V8 into the Miata; does that make it gutless? Perhaps. It is still fun to drive. Sure they gave it independent rear suspension, 4-wheel disk brakes, a synchro on first gear and a fifth (and sixth on some) gear to say nothing of complying with the current safety regulations. It might not be as great as an Elan, although I doubt that anyone would dispute that Elan ownership is not for the faint of heart, but it is significantly better than an MGB in stock form. The Miata has been an affordable top-down sportscar for over 15 years now. You cannot perceive its soul, but there are plenty of other people who can. From mconn2 at bright.net Thu Aug 30 15:51:18 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:51:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] The Gaydon Sprite ledger book References: <380-220078430245531@earthlink.net> <46D63B17.8010709@comcast.net> Message-ID: <002e01c7eb4f$e5ec97a0$6834ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Buster, I tell you what, I'd really quite like to see a Clausager letter which we're talking about. Would it be possible to send me an e-mail copy, please. I've never seen one. Michael From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Thu Aug 30 15:51:50 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:51:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost part 1 In-Reply-To: <20070830213815.YUW3980.cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com@heard> References: <01cb01c7eb48$7c40c260$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <20070830213815.YUW3980.cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com@heard> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0708301451u2152f068jdaab4fdb28f87f@mail.gmail.com> Here is a picture of WST: http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/M_IMAGE.11350fb5491.93.88.fa.d0.c9a30c95.jpg Lieb: http://img.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/030617/164917__grohl_l.jpg ED: http://www.zingarate.com/img/grafica/barney.jpg and me (apparently?) http://www.citizenrobot.com/images/potsie.jpg On 8/30/07, Heard Saxon wrote: > Well, this is getting interesting. I'm pretty new to this list and I've > never met any of you....but I can't wait. > > Heard > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+heard=datatrontech.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+heard=datatrontech.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf > Of David Lieb > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 4:58 PM > To: Spridget List > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost part 1 > > > I've compared Flash to Ed, > > and trust me, there are plenty others that see the similarity. > > Hey, I am sure that either Ed or Flash should be mortally > offended right about now. Not quite sure which one. -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata Red hardtop for sale, $950. Inquire with driver. From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Thu Aug 30 15:54:49 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:54:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Carnage Message-ID: <013c01c7eb50$648e31e0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> http://tinyurl.com/yxy4o6 Don't try this at home! Paul A From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Aug 30 15:57:09 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:57:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Team Death Trap Lost reply 2 References: <007d01c7eb4e$d445f740$7cd1e5c0$@com> Message-ID: <01f901c7eb50$b72c6700$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Dave, > Neither did I say you're superior, or that I in any way feel inferior. But > you do take a superior tone with your remarks, and, opinions, being what > they're worth, are likely to side with me on that (based on the 10 or so > private mails I've got in response). > Having said that, you're still my friend, and welcome here any time. > WST > (and all my gay friends... both real, and pretending... on the gay part, > that is) As if any of that was in question!?! I will defend to the death your right to make an ass of yourself and I expect you to do the same for me on a rather more regular basis. Please note that I did not say that you have ever made an ass of yourself, nor that there would be anything wrong with that if you did ;-) Any time your passport expires and you need something from this side of the Cheddar Curtain, just say so. I do like the way you just slapped all of your supporters for not having the guts to say anything on the List. Strangely enough, not all of them seem to have agreed with you, however. Isn't this fun? Any time you want to come down and autocross with the Miata club, just let me know. I will cheerfully pay your entry fee. I do expect you to bring a Sprite or do I will to arrange for you to drive one of those soul-less Miatae? I wouldn't dream of insulting you by making you drive my Midget, since they are a shameless theft of the Healeys' ideas. Or, more accurately, I have been embarrassed enough already by having other drivers hop into my car and squash my best times. David Lieb From mconn2 at bright.net Thu Aug 30 15:59:53 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:59:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks References: <003201c7ea9b$29be8250$8334ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> <008e01c7eb00$a1705750$df099356@tairswork> Message-ID: <004601c7eb51$18ecd100$6834ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> Guy, Well, that's a nice thing to say to a chap (100% American), I don't think! Just so you know, I'm going to make something up, and post it for all to see. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy R Day" To: "Michael Conn" ; "spridgets" Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 8:23 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks > Oh yes you will. > GRD > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Conn" > To: "spridgets" > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 1:17 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks > > >> Guy, >> >> I know you said not to ask, but I'm curious, just curious, that's all. >> You can tell me I won't tell............. >> >> Michael >> _______________________________________________ >> grday at btinternet.com >> >> Edit your replies >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mconn2 at bright.net Thu Aug 30 16:02:24 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:02:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks References: <297415.80049.qm@web36811.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005101c7eb51$72f00780$6834ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> David, Did she like it, and is she still using it? She probably thought it was a lovely parting gift. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: David Booker To: Michael Conn Cc: spridgets Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks "Did that mean you replaced the shower curtain in your home with the one you found?" As much as I may have been tempted to keep and use it, I did the right thing and sent it to my brand new ex-wife (along with most of the rest of the household furnishings...) - David Michael Conn wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: David Booker To: Glen Byrns ; Michael Conn Cc: Spridgets Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] was record resto, now Bondo tricks "Most of us would never do any of these terrible things to our treasured little Spridgets. But for a dented Triumph however.............." Speaking of old Triumphs... While prepping the body of a MKIII Spitfire I restored about 20 years ago, I found the driver side sill filled with a wadded-up plastic shower curtain. Definitely stronger material than Burger King or Taco Bell wrappers, but not nearly as environmentally friendly. - David > List. > > The stories about how to fill in holes in our spridgets are really quite > depressing, don't you think. Surely it's much more satisfying to do the > job properly (i.e. buy replacement panels or whatever). The first e-mail > or so depressed me, so I'm just hitting delete now. We're to preserve > our > LBC's are we not? Don't send me e-mails full of abuse, I'll just hit > delete every time I see one. > > Sorry, feel a bit serious about this topic (not to mention depressed)! > > Michael _______________________________________________ tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Thu Aug 30 16:05:43 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:05:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost In-Reply-To: <20070830213726.DNJB4058.cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com@heard> Message-ID: <200708302200.l7UM0gv2022091@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> One of the girls that cut my hair has the last name of Healey....not to heavy either. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Heard Saxon Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 4:34 PM Cc: 'Spridget List' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost You know, if I was a hairdresser I would just want to slap someone right now! -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+heard=datatrontech.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+heard=datatrontech.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Gilroy Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 5:30 PM To: David Lieb Cc: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost David, That last bit implies that both Big Healey owners and hair dressers are not real people. On 8/30/07, David Lieb wrote: > > > I can assure > you that the ranks of Miata owners include many different > kinds of people from former Heavey Healey owners to hair > dressers to real people. From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Thu Aug 30 16:11:18 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:11:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost References: <20070830213726.DNJB4058.cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com@heard> <02d701c7eb4e$770214b0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <00a401c7eb52$b0cc4090$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> Other way around Larry EXCEPT I would not demean muself by doing so nor would I even waste the energy!! From mconn2 at bright.net Thu Aug 30 16:11:37 2007 From: mconn2 at bright.net (Michael Conn) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:11:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] The Gaydon Sprite ledger book References: <380-220078430245531@earthlink.net> <46D7021F.7010607@wi.net> Message-ID: <005f01c7eb52$bd365a50$6834ffd8@YOURD28EB17757> David, I liked the story, but, oh, dear, that poor man hitting his head on the unprotected roll-over bar. Do you actually have an AN5 in the original leaf green? If you do, could you, please, e-mail me a picture? I'd really like to see it? Is it the original Healey leaf green applied at the factory when the car was built? Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Woerpel" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The Gaydon Sprite ledger book > Robert Bruce Evans wrote: >> Incidently, do any others have the letters that Clausanger sent out >> before >> they had certificates? >> >> Buster >> >> > As a matter of fact I have two, complete in their /Par Avion/ envelopes > mailed from Studley Warwickshire, one for Sprite and one for MGA. The > Sprite's 2 page letter is dated: 15 June 1981. The top page has the > response to several inquiries. 17606 came with windscreen washer, rev > counter, tonneau cover, WHITE WALL TYRES, and heater. As some may know > I'm one of the originality freaks, however, in tribute to the previous > owner, who made me promise to never use the front bumper, I do not have > it on the car but on the shelf. In his last spirited run with the car > he had to panic stop and his head snapped back against the unpadded > roll-over bar and he became a quadriplegic. He was quite a guy and cared > for the Sprite, he did a background on me and after several > conversations was assured that I would love the car as much as he. > Regarding the white walls, simple why I don't have those. My son > threatened to disown me if I put them on. I like them (generation gap!) > with the leaf green and am thinking of getting a set mounted on separate > wheels. > > Talking about Anders brings up some old questions regarding numbers. > Does the number stamped on the right fender under the main wiring loom > match anyone's chassis number? Anders stated that this is "probably" a > commission number. Any of you one time owners verify? > > Dave > 59 :{) > 59 MGA 1500 > 05 MCS > Burlington WI > _______________________________________________ > mconn2 at bright.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From heard at datatrontech.net Thu Aug 30 16:12:11 2007 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:12:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost In-Reply-To: <00a401c7eb52$b0cc4090$6601a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <20070830221601.BGKJ3972.cdptpa-omta05.mail.rr.com@heard> Wait! I am a big Healey owner. And now that I have a pic of Ed.... -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+heard=datatrontech.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+heard=datatrontech.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WJHS1960 Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 6:11 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost <> Other way around Larry EXCEPT I would not demean muself by doing so nor would I even waste the energy!! _______________________________________________ heard at datatrontech.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From Daniel1312 at aol.com Thu Aug 30 16:35:39 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:35:39 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Carnage Message-ID: On the other hand at least in the UK, call a bee keeper and they solve the problem for you. 'Course over here Petrol is more expensive.......... Daniel1312 In a message dated 30/08/07 22:54:44 GMT Daylight Time, PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net writes: > > > http://tinyurl.com/yxy4o6 > > Don't try this at home! > > Paul A From peter at nosimport.com Thu Aug 30 16:35:40 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:35:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cables in general, choke specifically Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070830172920.033cedf0@mailbag.com> So wise ones, tell me about cables, choke cables, pulled not turned. Does it matter how long the cable is? I mean, if a choke cable is too long, it seems to pull less effectively. Is that true? I have a cable that I really like, but it doesn't actuate the choke until the very end of travel. If I were to shorten it, which I can do, will it move the choke more effectively? I'd rather not experiment if it may not work. The cable is probably 10 inches too long and it seems that when I pull the cable tries to move aiming for a straight line, which a shorter cable would do. So, should a cable be as short as possible? Thanks Peter C. From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Aug 30 16:36:10 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:36:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Team Death Trap Lost reply 2 In-Reply-To: <01f901c7eb50$b72c6700$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <007d01c7eb4e$d445f740$7cd1e5c0$@com> <01f901c7eb50$b72c6700$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <008f01c7eb56$2bc8e750$835ab5f0$@com> OK, consider yourself defended. WST As if any of that was in question!?! I will defend to the death your right to make an ass of yourself and I expect you to do the same for me on a rather more regular basis. Please note that I did not say that you have ever made an ass of yourself, nor that there would be anything wrong with that if you did ;-) Any time your passport expires and you need something from this side of the Cheddar Curtain, just say so. I do like the way you just slapped all of your supporters for not having the guts to say anything on the List. Strangely enough, not all of them seem to have agreed with you, however. Isn't this fun? Any time you want to come down and autocross with the Miata club, just let me know. I will cheerfully pay your entry fee. I do expect you to bring a Sprite or do I will to arrange for you to drive one of those soul-less Miatae? I wouldn't dream of insulting you by making you drive my Midget, since they are a shameless theft of the Healeys' ideas. Or, more accurately, I have been embarrassed enough already by having other drivers hop into my car and squash my best times. David Lieb From Daniel1312 at aol.com Thu Aug 30 16:39:34 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:39:34 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost - more! Message-ID: See, none of this would have happened if Team Death Trap would have won - they'd have been tech debate instead............. Daniel1312 I've lost the thread of this thread! From Daniel1312 at aol.com Thu Aug 30 16:44:04 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:44:04 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Team Death Trap Lost reply 2 Message-ID: Anyone explain what the Cheddar Curtain is? Also, I recently say the Tom Hanks film big. At the job interview he asks if he pledged when at school/college - what does it mean to pledge? Regards Daniel1312 In a message dated 30/08/07 22:57:41 GMT Daylight Time, dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes: > Any time your passport expires and you need something from > this side of the Cheddar Curtain, just say so. From Daniel1312 at aol.com Thu Aug 30 16:53:09 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:53:09 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] New Engine Message-ID: Hi list, After about 2-3 years saving money (mostly in the last year) I finally collected my new engine for my Sprite. The block came out +60 rather than the +40 I hoped for so maybe I'll get a new e-mail 'Daniel1330'. The engine was built out of parts I'd been collecting for a while including the block which I think I've had about 18 months. The crank and rods came from New York where Frank collected them in an engine I bought off ebay and which he promptly shipped to APT in California for them to machine and ship to me in the UK. So, the crank and rods have some serious mileage in them already (crank is wedged, rods are Cooper S and lightened and balanced etc). The bottom end has a 4 bolt centre main with APTs conversion from bolts to ARP studs. Sump is a Peter May Engineering conversion to baffled (different design to his earlier baffled sump. Timing is a Titan belt drive since no-one else has a belt drive conversion with an engine breather. I have a new steel Peter May Engineering flywheel which is incredibly detailed and not just lighter but lighter towards the outside - it's just over a 1lb lighter than the steel flywheel in the car right now. New design of 7.5" clutch is also a lot lighter so should rev that little bit sharper and be that little bit quicker from first gear. I've fitted the water pump and need to paint the block and sump and fit other bits to it ready for when the head arrives and I can get the whole thing running. Regards Daniel1312 From Daniel1312 at aol.com Thu Aug 30 16:54:51 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:54:51 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] The Gaydon Sprite ledger book Message-ID: Thats a really sad story and a timely reminder to have roll bar padding - not just plumbers foam insulation but the proper FIA homologated padding. Regards Daniel1312 In a message dated 30/08/07 18:45:38 GMT Daylight Time, dwoerpel at wi.net writes: > In his last spirited run with the car > he had to panic stop and his head snapped back against the unpadded > roll-over bar and he became a quadriplegic. From hal at katemuir.com Thu Aug 30 17:23:29 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:23:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Compression ratio. CAUTION: LBC content. Message-ID: O.K. I'm just about at that point where I have to decide where to set the CR on my 1275 project. Motor specs as follows: 20 thou over, valves 1.401 intake and 1.212 ex. SPVP3 cam with 1.5:1 rockers. Dual HS2s on maniflow manifold. APT says the cam is suitable for CRs between 9.0 and 10.5. Is 10.0 too high on today's gas? Will I become a slave to octane booster if I go that high? For performance and economy I would likt to set the CR as high as possible, but don't want to have to find racing gas to make the darn thing run. Suggestions? Hal From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Aug 30 17:18:20 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:18:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Carnage Message-ID: <380-220078430231820390@earthlink.net> Daniel 1312 wrote: "'Course over here Petrol is more expensive.........." We presently have (non-Spridget) visitors from England, and as prices plunge below 33p a liter, they want to take some home with them! So pack up the family and get some for yourself! Buster From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Aug 30 17:23:38 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:23:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost In-Reply-To: <20070830221601.BGKJ3972.cdptpa-omta05.mail.rr.com@heard> References: <00a401c7eb52$b0cc4090$6601a8c0@actualshop> <20070830221601.BGKJ3972.cdptpa-omta05.mail.rr.com@heard> Message-ID: <43840a7e0708301623v3ad76e05p720cc238b98b91ba@mail.gmail.com> On 8/30/07, Heard Saxon wrote: > Wait! I am a big Healey owner. I don't have a big Healey but I do have a big Johnson... Does that count? Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Aug 30 17:31:08 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:31:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0708301623v3ad76e05p720cc238b98b91ba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > I don't have a big Healey but I do have a big Johnson... Does that count? One or the other....you don't need both. From pelliott at innercite.com Thu Aug 30 17:37:09 2007 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Pat) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:37:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0708301623v3ad76e05p720cc238b98b91ba@mail.gmail.com> References: <00a401c7eb52$b0cc4090$6601a8c0@actualshop><20070830221601.BGKJ3972.cdptpa-omta05.mail.rr.com@heard> <43840a7e0708301623v3ad76e05p720cc238b98b91ba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000c01c7eb5e$b16e2f70$c062670a@edgewireless.com> How did we get onto a discussion about outboard boat motors? -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+pelliott=innercite.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+pelliott=innercite.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 4:24 PM Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost On 8/30/07, Heard Saxon wrote: > Wait! I am a big Healey owner. I don't have a big Healey but I do have a big Johnson... Does that count? Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City _______________________________________________ pelliott at innercite.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From Daniel1312 at aol.com Thu Aug 30 17:37:56 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:37:56 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Dipstick 1275cc engine Message-ID: Hi list, My new engine is a 12V casting with a steel dipstick tube. The dipstick I have for it is the earlier type and is also apparently a 45 degree USA dipstick. The parts are a mismatch and I know the dipstick will rattle. There is a rubber washer on the dipstick but it isn't going to do much. My parts books don't give a number for a later dipstick - does anyone know if the Mini/whatever dipstick will be a better fit or if there is a tapered rubber washer that will work more effectively than the flat washer listed in the parts books. Regards Daniel1312 From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Aug 30 17:47:42 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:47:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost References: <00a401c7eb52$b0cc4090$6601a8c0@actualshop><20070830221601.BGKJ3972.cdptpa-omta05.mail.rr.com@heard> <43840a7e0708301623v3ad76e05p720cc238b98b91ba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <033b01c7eb60$2898aa70$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 6:23 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost On 8/30/07, Heard Saxon wrote: > Wait! I am a big Healey owner. I don't have a big Healey but I do have a big Johnson... Does that count? Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City ============================ Not unless you taught it how. LAD From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Aug 30 17:49:10 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:49:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Something to Contemplate (No LBC) Message-ID: <43840a7e0708301649p7c51fc3bk8b575917fce5e1f7@mail.gmail.com> http://www.pillowsforsoldiers.com/soongone.html Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Aug 30 17:53:37 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:53:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Team Death Trap Lost reply 2 References: <007d01c7eb4e$d445f740$7cd1e5c0$@com> <01f901c7eb50$b72c6700$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <008f01c7eb56$2bc8e750$835ab5f0$@com> Message-ID: <06e601c7eb60$fc0c49c0$0201a8c0@midget> > OK, consider yourself defended. Likewise ;-} BTW we still have autocrosses coming up on September 9, September 30, and October 7. You need to arrive by 9am in order to prep your car prior to the mandatory 9:30 driver's meeting. Usually about 12 runs during the day and we wind up around 4:30 to 5:00. All three of these events will be at the College of Lake County campus in Grayslake, IL. Come one, come all, but the offer to cover your registration fee was only extended to Flounder. David Lieb From dwoerpel at wi.net Thu Aug 30 17:58:55 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:58:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wheel chocks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46D759BF.6070303@wi.net> Deikis, John G wrote: > Cat lovers...this is for us! > > > > http://3boysproductions.com/chinese_food_song.htm > > NOW "THAT" IS FUNNY! roflmao!! Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Aug 30 18:00:21 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:00:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Team Death Trap Lost reply 2 References: Message-ID: <06f501c7eb61$ed2d42f0$0201a8c0@midget> > Anyone explain what the Cheddar Curtain is? The state to the north of Illinois is Wisconsin. Wisconsin is known for its dairy products, especially cheese. Residents of Wisconsin are frequently called "Cheeseheads". Since the portion of Illinois just south of the eastern end of Wisconsin is primarily urban and the corresponding portion of Wisconsin is primarily rural, there is a significant disparity. They tend to be fond of sending their gendarmes to harvest speeding tickets from people with Illinois license plates, especially on weekends... On second thought, I guess I cannot really explain it other than to say that it refers to the border between Illinois and Wisconsin. > Also, I recently saw the Tom Hanks film big. At the job interview he asks > if > he pledged when at school/college - what does it mean to pledge? It has to do with the process of joining a fraternity house at college. More than that I do not know. From Miniac7 at aol.com Thu Aug 30 18:12:44 2007 From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:12:44 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] New Engine Message-ID: Daniel1330, Let me be the first to call you that. I'd like to know which cam, rockers, pistons, intake, exhaust and ignition you are using? Do you know the CR? Howard Collins Virginia Beach, VA. ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Thu Aug 30 18:15:41 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:15:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Cam sprocket nut removal References: <00a101c7e8f8$d04477f0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> Message-ID: <021a01c7eb64$128f8100$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Impact wrench. pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Nase" To: "'Spridgets'" Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:22 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Cam sprocket nut removal > I am replacing the front engine cover on a 1098 engine. I can't budge the > cam sproket nut. The washer tab is bent flat but the nut won't move. Any > tips? > > Thanks. > > Phil Nase > Quakertown, PA > http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa > _______________________________________________ > pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From lists at woozy.com Thu Aug 30 18:25:19 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:25:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Steering Wheel Message-ID: <46D75FEF.6060600@woozy.com> I've been searching for a while for a reasonably priced steering wheel for my Midget that is smaller in diameter than the original one. I've noticed these on ebay and was wondering if anyone on the list has purchased one of these and what they thought of it. Ebay # 260154340963 I've purchased a few other small parts from this seller in the past and have been pretty happy with the quality of the items but the shipping on this part is not cheap so I've been a little reluctant to purchase one. Thanks, Robert From Daniel1312 at aol.com Thu Aug 30 18:32:30 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:32:30 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Steering Wheel Message-ID: For that kind of money you might get a second hand Mota Lita wheel that is a much nicer wheel in my opinion. I had a mountney on my Sprite originally but graduated to a Mota Lita at a later date and now have a rare small boss Mota Lita. Regards Daniel1312 In a message dated 31/08/07 01:26:27 GMT Daylight Time, lists at woozy.com writes: > > I've been searching for a while for a reasonably priced steering wheel > for my Midget that is smaller in diameter than the original one. I've > noticed these on ebay and was wondering if anyone on the list has > purchased one of these and what they thought of it. Ebay # 260154340963 > > I've purchased a few other small parts from this seller in the past and > have been pretty happy with the quality of the items but the shipping on > this part is not cheap so I've been a little reluctant to purchase one. > > Thanks, > > Robert From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Aug 30 18:37:46 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:37:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] More humour? In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10708301205y30a9a4b6g1e5ed79ab539a4d2@mail.gmail.com> References: <004501c7eaa5$ae697a00$b20b6f47@DBKF4T81> <5f00d9910708291841t32363ca6p5330c9f246ef6c96@mail.gmail.com> <2ad6c6b10708301205y30a9a4b6g1e5ed79ab539a4d2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910708301737k208b24f0md9747207e2eaaa6b@mail.gmail.com> "It" refers to the name of the Dwarf. You should have known it (the name of that particular Dwarf) would be Grumpy. Name is a noun that isn't really well represented by the pronoun "he". On 8/30/07, WFO Herb wrote: > Not nice calling little people "it". ;-) From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Thu Aug 30 18:42:15 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:42:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost In-Reply-To: References: <441250190708291140x3319e68er3fd6a62b60ef26d5@mail.gmail.com> <8a336b9d0708291414r33b56dcai620cc0f25bef62aa@mail.gmail.com> <005a01c7ea86$326dea90$9749bfb0$@com> <46D5F44A.8030704@comcast.net> <8a336b9d0708291610x78d94a51yab7a79f0872e1ee0@mail.gmail.com> <01be01c7eaa8$ddcc5670$6401a8c0@Larry> <000701c7eb35$c9e17ae0$cee767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> <013f01c7eb3e$2b9cbb20$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: WOW I get a new email address and Brad takes advantage. Flash Stay, we need someone to offset the "Unreal" Larry and Ed (in all his disguises) THe Really Real, Real Larry On Aug 30, 2007, at 4:09 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > I vote we keep Flash on the list. I see him as an "Ed in training" > If we ever lose Ed, the spirit will still live on. > > Larry Macy > > On 8/30/07, David Lieb wrote: >>>> Flash, why are you even on this list? You don't own a Spridget >>>> and all >> you do is try to irritate the valid listers. Why don't you just go >> away? >> >>> Ahh...Larry, I vote to keep him on list. He's articulate, if >>> somewhat >>> acerbic and asymmtotic. In terms of a good Bell's Theorem non-local >>> interaction, he's unmediated, unmitigated, and immediate. Just >>> what this >>> list is all about. >>> And lastly - I think Flounder would miss him. >> >> You have to realize that Flash is the lightning rod. If he were to go >> away, Flounder would have the time to annoy the rest of us. >> After all, Spridget ownership is not a requirement on this list, is >> it? >> >> IIRC, Flounder started it with his deliberately inflammatory remarks >> about people who drive Miatas, in blissful disregard of the fact >> that most of these things used to be said about people who drive >> Spridgets. The remarks were uncalled for, but they did elicit a >> response and that is all that it takes to start a pissing contest. >> No one in history has actually won a pissing contest; they are >> simply a test to see which person comes to their senses first. >> Two losers so far... >> >> As a member of the Windy City Miata Club as well as one of the >> autocross coordinators AND the newsletter editor, I can assure >> you that the ranks of Miata owners include many different >> kinds of people from former Heavey Healey owners to hair >> dressers to real people. >> _______________________________________________ >> tequila.brad at gmail.com >> >> Edit your replies >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > > > -- > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From lists at woozy.com Thu Aug 30 18:44:07 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:44:07 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Steering Wheel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46D76457.90707@woozy.com> Hey Daniel, I haven't been able to find anyone who can supply the Moto Lita boss for a '70 Midget. I have a used Moto out in the shed but nothing to mount it with. Do you know of a source for the boss? The '70 splines are unique to that year. Thanks, Robert Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: > For that kind of money you might get a second hand Mota Lita wheel > that is a much nicer wheel in my opinion. I had a mountney on my > Sprite originally but graduated to a Mota Lita at a later date and now > have a rare small boss Mota Lita. > > Regards > > Daniel1312 > > In a message dated 31/08/07 01:26:27 GMT Daylight Time, > lists at woozy.com writes: > >> >> I've been searching for a while for a reasonably priced steering wheel >> for my Midget that is smaller in diameter than the original one. I've >> noticed these on ebay and was wondering if anyone on the list has >> purchased one of these and what they thought of it. Ebay # 260154340963 >> >> I've purchased a few other small parts from this seller in the past and >> have been pretty happy with the quality of the items but the shipping on >> this part is not cheap so I've been a little reluctant to purchase one. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Robert From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Aug 30 19:24:55 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:24:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Cables in general, choke specifically In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070830172920.033cedf0@mailbag.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070830172920.033cedf0@mailbag.com> Message-ID: <46D76DE7.60900@comcast.net> Peter C wrote: > So, should a cable be as short as possible? I think so, the shortest ones seem to work just fine with full travel and a multitude of mid positions. That's why I usually buy ones that I know are too long. Easy to shorten, tough to make longer. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Aug 30 19:30:10 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:30:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Compression ratio. CAUTION: LBC content. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46D76F22.4030800@comcast.net> Hal Faulkner wrote: > Is 10.0 too high on today's gas? 10.0 or 10.5 should be just fine with premium gas. 12.0 and up is where the problems come in. My kid's first Mini was one of those 12:1 engines. 9 mpg and that's in a Mini! He has learned since then as his current Mini runs a stock 1275. When my engine was new, it was 10:1 and ran fine even on the mid grade of unleaded. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Aug 30 19:33:08 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:33:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Something to Contemplate (No LBC) Message-ID: <380-2200785311338984@earthlink.net> Thanks, Jim, for I will be able to pass this on to a cocky little Greek who now counts the people coming into Costco, but who 63 years ago parachuted into Normandy with the 101 Screaming Eagles, and then experienced Christmas in the frozen little town of Bastogne, isolated and under siege. As a private in D Company of the 506th Parachute Regiment, he today ridicule's the movie "Band of Brothers" as a bunch of bullshit that did not tell "the true story". (In a photograph, he and six buddies were shown linking shoulders together in France, with their now-fading autographs under an also fading scrawl, "Our band of brothers". Like so many of the kids his age in that era, those days now represent life's high point for Angelo Dukelis. The front room of his home is as a memorial to the days he feels he "made a difference" in the world, and he was able to show his love for his country. As often as possible, he returns to France and Belgium, putting flowers on the graves of his buddies, and on the grave of his CO, and walking the now peaceful land he once trod. Maybe it is my overactive imagination, but I can picture him today looking skyward to the drifting parachutes on which he and other kids had the ride of their life. The tragedy of it all? So soon we forget. Buster Evans From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Aug 30 19:34:40 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:34:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Dipstick 1275cc engine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46D77030.2090405@comcast.net> Daniel The Mini dip stick will be too long (gearbox in the sump) I have a couple of US 1275 dipsticks, they are bent a little but I do not have any of those dipstick tubes. The plastic ones that usually break when they reach 35 years old or older. I'm sure you can come up with a suitable rubber plug for inside the steel tube, then the rubber washer up top. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Thu Aug 30 19:37:19 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:37:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost - more! References: Message-ID: <010701c7eb6f$788be600$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> That should make you EXTREMELY happy, Daniel!!!! LOL From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Aug 30 19:41:08 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:41:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wheel chocks Message-ID: <380-22007853114180@earthlink.net> John Deikis wrote: "Cat lovers...this is for us!" Now you folks better tread very carefully before making fun of cats or wheel chocks. Frank is, after all, one of the world's true fashionistas when it comes to them! http://bustercluster.blogspot.com/ #7 From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Aug 30 19:49:31 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:49:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] More humour? Message-ID: <380-22007853114931109@earthlink.net> "Subject: Re: [Spridgets] More humour?" Please, derf, this IS, after all, a very *serious* list for Spridget information exchange and technical tips. "Humor", as you call it, may be more appropriate elsewhere. Perhaps on a less sophisticated and less formal "Healey" list. Cordially, Robert B. Evans (I think I am going to barf all over myself with that one. From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Aug 30 19:57:49 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:57:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wheel chock correction Message-ID: <380-22007853115749625@earthlink.net> That should be: http://bustercluster.blogspot.com/ #76-77 . (Yes, the computer problems persist.) From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Thu Aug 30 20:00:57 2007 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:00:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Steering Wheel In-Reply-To: <46D75FEF.6060600@woozy.com> References: <46D75FEF.6060600@woozy.com> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0708301900o6ca0cd17ha0f0000a4b8da183@mail.gmail.com> On 8/30/07, Robert Weeks wrote: > I've been searching for a while for a reasonably priced steering wheel > for my Midget that is smaller in diameter than the original one. I've > noticed these on ebay and was wondering if anyone on the list has > purchased one of these and what they thought of it. Ebay # 260154340963 Looks very similar to the one offered by VB for considerably more money! http://www.victoriabritish.com/icatalog/sm/0065.asp The DPO fitted this wooden wheel from VB to my car (along with the matching gear shift knob) and I'm pleased with it. It also garners lots of positive comments from people looking at the car. From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Thu Aug 30 20:03:42 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:03:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wheel chocks References: <380-22007853114180@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <01e201c7eb73$2a742690$6601a8c0@actualshop> Better is 75, 76 & 77, Buster!! Don't now your own blog??? LOL Or www.bustercluster2006.org -->Al's pics "second set 61 onwards" #74 & #75. Anon From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Thu Aug 30 20:08:35 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:08:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] More humour? References: <380-22007853114931109@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <01f201c7eb73$d932a5d0$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> Stodgy!! 9issan at justbrits.com IS a List for TRUE "humor" and allows attachments and FOUNDED for SEVERAL dozen Spridgeteers, as I have TOLD you Buster!! ALL are welcome (except flash who knows no "humor" just meaness!!). Bunch of these very Listers ARE Members!! From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Thu Aug 30 20:15:17 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:15:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] More humour? In-Reply-To: <01f201c7eb73$d932a5d0$6601a8c0@actualshop> References: <380-22007853114931109@earthlink.net> <01f201c7eb73$d932a5d0$6601a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0708301915j3413b5f4vc14693c4f95dc81f@mail.gmail.com> "billy called me a name and it hurted my feelings" whaaaaaaa On 8/30/07, 63AHBJ7 <63ahbj7 at gmail.com> wrote: > <> > > Stodgy!! > > 9issan at justbrits.com IS a List for TRUE "humor" and allows attachments and > FOUNDED for SEVERAL dozen Spridgeteers, as I have TOLD you Buster!! > > ALL are welcome (except flash who knows no "humor" just meaness!!). > > Bunch of these very Listers ARE Members!! > _______________________________________________ -- http://btdtracing.com 97 STS2 CRX & 97 SpecMiata Red hardtop for sale, $950. Inquire with driver. From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Thu Aug 30 20:16:44 2007 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:16:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Death Trap Lost In-Reply-To: <200708302200.l7UM0gv2022091@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> References: <20070830213726.DNJB4058.cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com@heard> <200708302200.l7UM0gv2022091@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0708301916l582b8263keca83b0817c96ea4@mail.gmail.com> On 8/30/07, Chris Manuel wrote: > One of the girls that cut my hair has the last name of Healey....not to > heavy either. OK ... but is she REAL? From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net Thu Aug 30 21:10:19 2007 From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (Richard Feibusch) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:10:19 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] San Diego British Car Day - Sunday, October 7 Message-ID: >From: "Steve" >To: "Richard Feibusch" >Subject: San Diego British Car Day >Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:30:10 -0700 > >Hi Folks-- > >Just a reminder . . . > >This year we are NOT snail mailing the Registration Forms for the upcoming (Sunday, October 7th) San Diego British Car Day. 28th ANNUAL SAN DIEGO BRITISH CAR DAY & PICNIC Sunday, October 7, 2007 Fairbrook Farms, 4949 S. Mission Road Fallbrook, California (directions below) www.sandiegobritishcarday.org > >I've attached the form and explanation page for your convenience. Pre-Registration is only $20.00. By Pre-registering you save $5.00 at the gate, you save considerable time (by not having to wait in line . . . on what is usually a warm day!) and it allows the organizers to order the correct number of trophies and organize the field for the number and type of cars pre-registered. > >Please share the form with any and all who are interested!!! > >In order to be pre-registered, we need to have your form and check returned to us by September 10th. > >We hope to see you all there! We'll have wonderful vendors and the Cameron Highlanders Bagpipers--back by popular demand. The last 5 years, we have been averaging around 430 wonderful British cars! > >Plan on bringing a picnic and your own beverages, or enjoying the wonderful food provided by our ultra fantastic food vendor, Hogg's Beach BBQ. > >QUESTIONS? Please call San Diego British Car Day Info Line: 760-746-1458 Steve Kirby From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Aug 30 20:33:29 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:33:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] More humour? In-Reply-To: <01f201c7eb73$d932a5d0$6601a8c0@actualshop> References: <380-22007853114931109@earthlink.net> <01f201c7eb73$d932a5d0$6601a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <46D77DF9.8030008@earthlink.net> 63AHBJ7 wrote: <> Stodgy!! Omigawd!!!! Someone actually took me seriously!!!!! Whoooopppppeeeeeee! What a wonderful day! And now, back to our seriosity. Silas P. Gumbody City Lampooner Bald Knob, Arkansas From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Aug 30 20:53:55 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:53:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Miata wannabe Message-ID: <00ab01c7eb7a$2d918f00$88b4ad00$@com> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Lotus-Elan-1966-Vintage-Historic-Racecar-SCCA _W0QQitemZ220143980547QQihZ012QQcategoryZ98064QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem ebay item # 220143980547 Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Thu Aug 30 21:08:43 2007 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:08:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Carnage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8de85a9c0708302008v7eec8e15m537f16b605aa8bc3@mail.gmail.com> On 8/30/07, Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: > On the other hand at least in the UK, call a bee keeper and they solve the > problem for you. 'Course over here Petrol is more expensive.......... It's the same here in that States ... depending on the area you're in I guess. With the large drop in the bee population in recent years I'm sure most bee keepers would've have gladly responded even on a holiday weekend. That said ... WAY COOL! Fire, fire, heh heh, heh heh. From Daniel1312 at aol.com Fri Aug 31 04:18:33 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 06:18:33 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Steering Wheel Message-ID: If Mota Lita don't do one the only thing is to buy a hub that has not been broached (had the splines cut) and then find a machine shop that can broach the virgin hub to the spline pattern on your column. However, if you're fitting a non-original steering wheel why not simply fit a non-original steering column to go with it and buy an off-the-shelf boss from Mota Lita? Regards Daniel In a message dated 31/08/07 01:44:44 GMT Daylight Time, lists at woozy.com writes: > Hey Daniel, > > I haven't been able to find anyone who can supply the Moto Lita boss for > a '70 Midget. I have a used Moto out in the shed but nothing to mount it > with. > > Do you know of a source for the boss? The '70 splines are unique to that > year. > > Thanks, > > Robert From thcollin at mtu.edu Fri Aug 31 14:36:48 2007 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:36:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] A Series Dyno test Message-ID: <68b0fd$tjtu4@email.mtu.edu> http://tinyurl.com/22mcsc Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From Daniel1312 at aol.com Fri Aug 31 14:44:37 2007 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:44:37 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] New Engine Message-ID: Hi Howard, The cam is APTs equivalent to Kent's 286 scatter so I'm expecting the new engine will make similar power (it's a road car). The titan 1.5 roller rockers from the existing engine are going in the new engine unless I have enough money for something else better (seems unlikely). The pistons are Omega with a 6.4cc dish but no the really expensive Omega's. Valve sizes haven't been decided yet but the head will be a Pierce for the weight saving alone. Igniton will be the existing Inductor/reluctor Microdynamics electronic unit and power coil. Given on the Uk petrol octane I can run 10.5:1 on an iron head I'm expecting to run 11:1 on the Pierce aluminium head. Regards Daniel In a message dated 31/08/07 01:12:44 GMT Daylight Time, Miniac7 writes: > Let me be the first to call you that. > > I'd like to know which cam, rockers, pistons, intake, exhaust and ignition > you are using? Do you know the CR? > > Howard Collins From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Aug 31 15:20:48 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:20:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Some thoughts (actual LBC content!) Message-ID: <43840a7e0708311420x1eb9ee06tf9f13148be7b15d4@mail.gmail.com> Okay Spridgeteers... Question - What happens if the PCV valve on my 1968 1275 gets clogged up? Crank case pressure? Blowing oil? Of interest - A guy that runs a sheet metal business here in town had me take a look at a car for him. Ostensibly it is a 66 Midget. If original, would that be the 1098 engine? It appears to have a rib case tranny. Body looks fairly good but I haven't had time to check it for bondo yet. The rear dog legs sound a bit too solid when you knock on them compared to my 68. It is painted with only gray primer, the interior will have to be completely re-done and it has seats from some other vehicle in it. The manifolds are off of it as are the carbs (natch!). Carbs have been partly disassembled and look really rough. Exhaust manifold is broken. It has wires on it and no top (like who really needs one!). Cracked windscreen, boot lid shows it had a luggage rack which is now gone and someone covered the emblem holes in the boot lid. Otherwise, the body is straight with only very minor dents and very little rust showing through the very old primer. Internals of the engine, tranny and drive line as well as condition of the wiring are total unknowns. The guy also just bought a running MGB so he may be getting ready to sell the Midget. It would make a great project car for someone. If he decides to sell it I will post some pics. I told him it wasn't worth more than about $600 and he didn't flinch. I have no idea what he paid for it. According to the people he bought it from it spent the majority of its life in Arizona. I wonder if this car might be worth picking up with an eye toward fixing it up as a grand prize give away for the 50th Anniversary event at Lake of the Ozarks? I figure Frank could have this car in Concours condition in about 15 minutes.... ;-) Thanks for your time... And now back to your regularly scheduled No LBC commentary... Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) From jlaird237 at cox.net Fri Aug 31 16:43:25 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:43:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A Series Dyno test References: <68b0fd$tjtu4@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <000e01c7ec20$576b8000$d4a6bf46@personal> Darn, he over rev'ed it badly. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy H. Collins" To: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 3:36 PM Subject: [Spridgets] A Series Dyno test > http://tinyurl.com/22mcsc > > Tim Collins > 1966 AH Sprite > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.1/981 - Release Date: 8/31/2007 > 6:13 AM From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Aug 31 17:47:43 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:47:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] See now.... Message-ID: <755129.66157.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ....if it weren't for recent list events, this might be something I'd look at as a winter beater: http://rockford.craigslist.org/car/409105584.html Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469 From millerls at ado13.com Fri Aug 31 17:51:48 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:51:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] See now.... References: <755129.66157.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <008001c7ec29$e5a41ae0$d280bc43@HP> Ignore the assholes and go for it :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 4:47 PM Subject: [Spridgets] See now.... > ....if it weren't for recent list events, this might > be something I'd look at as a winter beater: > > http://rockford.craigslist.org/car/409105584.html From herby at herbytoys.com Fri Aug 31 18:36:59 2007 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:36:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Locking tab Q Message-ID: <000e01c7ec30$36d14c20$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> I'm installing the flywheel on my 1275 and wondered if I should use the lock tab (full circle style) or just locktite the bolts. What say the listerati? Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Aug 31 18:57:19 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:57:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Locking tab Q In-Reply-To: <000e01c7ec30$36d14c20$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> References: <000e01c7ec30$36d14c20$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> Message-ID: <46D8B8EF.8050608@comcast.net> Herby wrote: > I'm installing the flywheel on my 1275 and wondered if I should use the lock > tab (full circle style) or just locktite the bolts. What say the listerati? I use both. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From herby at herbytoys.com Fri Aug 31 19:04:26 2007 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:04:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Locking tab Q In-Reply-To: <46D8B8EF.8050608@comcast.net> Message-ID: <001601c7ec34$0b4479c0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> Another question. What's the best way to bend the little tabs over? Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com -----Original Message----- From: Frank Clarici [mailto:spritenut at comcast.net] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 5:57 PM To: herby at herbytoys.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Locking tab Q Herby wrote: > I'm installing the flywheel on my 1275 and wondered if I should use the lock > tab (full circle style) or just locktite the bolts. What say the listerati? I use both. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From herby at herbytoys.com Fri Aug 31 19:39:34 2007 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:39:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Locking tab Q In-Reply-To: <46D8BC43.7010503@comcast.net> Message-ID: <001a01c7ec38$f5158360$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> Thanks all. I got it squared away. I squirted some locktite on the bolts (like Frank said), torqued 'em down (can't believe only 40 ft lbs!) then used a slide hammer to pull the tabs up and hammered 'em home with a punch. Pressure plate and disc are bolted up and ready for the trans then thrower' in the Sprite tomorrow. After the week I've had I'm takin' a break tonight! Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com -----Original Message----- From: Frank Clarici [mailto:spritenut at comcast.net] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 6:12 PM To: herby at herbytoys.com Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Locking tab Q Herby wrote: > Another question. What's the best way to bend the little tabs over? Get them close with pliers, them a hammer and screwdriver to fold them tight over a flat on the bolt. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri Aug 31 21:10:40 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:10:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] China paint contaminated U.K. ships Message-ID: <380-2200796131040640@earthlink.net> OK, so they are model Noah's Arks that have been recalled. But at least I told you before you looked up this link! http://tinyurl.com/2xmsyh Buster From waltmulvey at yahoo.com Wed Aug 29 11:39:53 2007 From: waltmulvey at yahoo.com (Walt) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 10:39:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Grease the Gear to Drive the Tach Message-ID: <62348.55579.qm@web36513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I finally found a NOS Smith's Tach gearbox (the one on the back of the generator). But since it is so old I need to open it and replace the grease. Anybody know what kind of grease to put in the gearbox? Any help would be much appreciated. walt at fiberfab.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433