From elliottr at rmi.net  Sat Oct 13 17:33:34 2012
From: elliottr at rmi.net (Roger Elliott)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:33:34 -0500
Subject: [Spits] Spitfire gear shift lever
Message-ID: <5079FA4E.7080104@rmi.net>

Hi All,

On Spitfires (at least later ones)  the shift lever has a section in the 
middle kind of like a tube that the end pieces go into.

Any idea of what that section is for?  Does it provide some kind of 
insulation from heat or vibration?

I bought a spare one that I want to try to cut down to make a shorter 
lever.  And I am trying to figure out what my options are.

Thanks,
Roger Elliott

From jdinnis at gmail.com  Sat Oct 13 19:16:34 2012
From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 20:16:34 -0500
Subject: [Spits] Spitfire gear shift lever
In-Reply-To: <5079FA4E.7080104@rmi.net>
References: <5079FA4E.7080104@rmi.net>
Message-ID: <CANuE7YAMM15PD2jNrgszyL_iEZ76x=vtOCwf=CNGsCSwQ8AcsA@mail.gmail.com>

Not sure if it is true or not, but I was told this was to provide a weak
spot where the gear shift lever would break or collapse in the even of an
accident.  Much like the collapsible steering column, it keeps theses
things form impaling body parts.

John Innis
Murphy '76 Spit 1500
Cedar Rapids, IA


On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Roger Elliott <elliottr at rmi.net> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> On Spitfires (at least later ones)  the shift lever has a section in the
> middle kind of like a tube that the end pieces go into.
>
> Any idea of what that section is for?  Does it provide some kind of
> insulation from heat or vibration?
>
> I bought a spare one that I want to try to cut down to make a shorter
> lever.  And I am trying to figure out what my options are.
>
> Thanks,
> Roger Elliott
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From elliottr at rmi.net  Sun Oct 14 18:59:01 2012
From: elliottr at rmi.net (Roger Elliott)
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:59:01 -0500
Subject: [Spits] Spitfire gear shift lever
In-Reply-To: <CANuE7YAMM15PD2jNrgszyL_iEZ76x=vtOCwf=CNGsCSwQ8AcsA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5079FA4E.7080104@rmi.net>
	<CANuE7YAMM15PD2jNrgszyL_iEZ76x=vtOCwf=CNGsCSwQ8AcsA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <507B5FD5.9070600@rmi.net>

Thanks John,

That more sense than anything I have heard.

Roger
On 10/13/2012 08:16 PM, John Innis wrote:
> Not sure if it is true or not, but I was told this was to provide a 
> weak spot where the gear shift lever would break or collapse in the 
> even of an accident.  Much like the collapsible steering column, it 
> keeps theses things form impaling body parts.
>
> John Innis
> Murphy '76 Spit 1500
> Cedar Rapids, IA
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Roger Elliott <elliottr at rmi.net 
> <mailto:elliottr at rmi.net>> wrote:
>
>     Hi All,
>
>     On Spitfires (at least later ones)  the shift lever has a section
>     in the middle kind of like a tube that the end pieces go into.
>
>     Any idea of what that section is for?  Does it provide some kind
>     of insulation from heat or vibration?
>
>     I bought a spare one that I want to try to cut down to make a
>     shorter lever.  And I am trying to figure out what my options are.
>
>     Thanks,
>     Roger Elliott
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From parrotthead01 at comcast.net  Wed Oct 17 16:21:33 2012
From: parrotthead01 at comcast.net (Daniel Parrott)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 18:21:33 -0400
Subject: [Spits] Bumper Connection and Rubber Mounting Pads
Message-ID: <010201cdacb5$c3ff7810$4bfe6830$@comcast.net>

As I move forward with the reassembly of my Spit Six project, I have a
couple of questions.

 

How many rubber mounting pads should there be?  From the VB catalog, it
appears that there are only 6 rubber mounting pads:  two at the rear axle
(over the rear leaf spring) and two at the "heal board" body bolts.  ( I
noticed that the "heal board" mounting holes in the frame are the only ones
that have no slack, so these needs to mounted first, right?) and two at the
seat belt mounting bolts.  Are there no rubber pads at the firewall or at
the mid outrigger mounting points?

 

Also, is have a pair heavy reinforcing plates that appears to be located in
front of the bonnet pivot boxes.  (Part number YKC1614, Canley Classics).

 

http://www.canleyclassics.com/?xhtml=xhtml/diagram/spitfire1500bonnetcatchhi
ngeattachmentdetailsandsealingrubbers.html
<http://www.canleyclassics.com/?xhtml=xhtml/diagram/spitfire1500bonnetcatchh
ingeattachmentdetailsandsealingrubbers.html&xhtmlcatalogue=xhtml/catalogue/s
pitfire1500.html&category=chassissubframesbodyshellandfittings&xsl=diagram.x
sl>
&xhtmlcatalogue=xhtml/catalogue/spitfire1500.html&category=chassissubframesb
odyshellandfittings&xsl=diagram.xsl

 

It appears from the diagram that the plate should have the convex face
facing forward.  However, I don't have the space on the front of the Bonnet
Pivot Box to assemble the parts without grinding the pivot box.

 

My 1980 Spit has a reinforcing plate integrated with the pivot box, so I
have no reference handy.  Any help?

 

TIA

 

Dan Parrott

Savannah, Georgia

1980 Triumph Spitfire "PJ", AKA "Rat"

1973/1978 Spit Six "Joseph"

1957 Chevy Belair "Mayflower"

From fishplate at charter.net  Wed Oct 17 18:44:13 2012
From: fishplate at charter.net (Jeff)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 20:44:13 -0400
Subject: [Spits] Bumper Connection and Rubber Mounting Pads
In-Reply-To: <010201cdacb5$c3ff7810$4bfe6830$@comcast.net>
References: <010201cdacb5$c3ff7810$4bfe6830$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <507F50DD.3030207@charter.net>

On 10/17/2012 6:21 PM, Daniel Parrott wrote:
> Also, is have a pair heavy reinforcing plates that appears to be located in
> front of the bonnet pivot boxes.  (Part number YKC1614, Canley Classics).
>
>   
>
> It appears from the diagram that the plate should have the convex face
> facing forward.  However, I don't have the space on the front of the Bonnet
> Pivot Box to assemble the parts without grinding the pivot box.
>
>   
>
> My 1980 Spit has a reinforcing plate integrated with the pivot box, so I
> have no reference handy.  Any help?

What year is your frame?  The original front was for the plastic hinge 
covers, the heavy adapter you mention is for the rubber hinge coverss, 
and the frame with the tall integral brackets is for the late-model 
rubber bumper.

Does that help?  I can probably conjure up photos of the different 
mounts if you need them.

Jeff Scarbrough
Corrosion Acres, Ga.

From cwnfot at gmail.com  Thu Oct 18 12:17:59 2012
From: cwnfot at gmail.com (Clark W. Nicholls)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 14:17:59 -0400
Subject: [Spits] Old Spitfire windshields??
Message-ID: <01f401cdad5c$e8222240$b86666c0$@com>

Is it worth keeping old Spitfire windshields/frames?

I just threw out 2 cracked (due to storage for decades) ones.

 

I have one roundtail version out of frame and several in the frame.

(and a bunch of doors, boot lids, etc)

 

Making room. Western Massachusetts.

Clark
Clark W. Nicholls
1972 Stag (LE7931E) for sale, 1974 Spitfire (FM14571U) 
and 1 rusty GT6 needing new owner
"Reality, it's not what you think."

From spitlist at cox.net  Thu Oct 18 12:23:23 2012
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:23:23 -0700
Subject: [Spits] Old Spitfire windshields??
In-Reply-To: <01f401cdad5c$e8222240$b86666c0$@com>
References: <01f401cdad5c$e8222240$b86666c0$@com>
Message-ID: <C654209E0E564798B5A9F1376DC05C84@Vista>

Since the glass also fits TR4, TR250 and TR6 models, I'd say Yes!

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Clark W. Nicholls
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:18 AM
To: spitfires at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spits] Old Spitfire windshields??

Is it worth keeping old Spitfire windshields/frames?

I just threw out 2 cracked (due to storage for decades) ones.

 

I have one roundtail version out of frame and several in the frame.

(and a bunch of doors, boot lids, etc)

 

Making room. Western Massachusetts.

Clark
Clark W. Nicholls
1972 Stag (LE7931E) for sale, 1974 Spitfire (FM14571U) 
and 1 rusty GT6 needing new owner
"Reality, it's not what you think."
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From zoboherald at aol.com  Thu Oct 18 13:07:49 2012
From: zoboherald at aol.com (Andrew S. Mace)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:07:49 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spits] Old Spitfire windshields??
In-Reply-To: <01f401cdad5c$e8222240$b86666c0$@com>
References: <01f401cdad5c$e8222240$b86666c0$@com>
Message-ID: <8CF7B7B0004AF7B-2554-3B0B@webmail-m143.sysops.aol.com>

 Perhaps I'm not one to offer Clark advice, as I still have many, many Triumph
bits he "cleared out" decades ago! :)

That said, I would hang onto the glass if uncracked and relatively
scratch-free. As for the frames, if they are straight and rust-free, I'd also
hang onto them. I've managed to make a couple of restorers quite happy in
recent years with straight and rust-free early Spitfire windshield frames!



--Andy Mace

*Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet?
*Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph
Herald engine with wings.
-- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22)

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Register: http://www.vtr.org

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-----Original Message-----
From: Clark W. Nicholls <cwnfot at gmail.com>
To: spitfires <spitfires at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Oct 18, 2012 2:18 pm
Subject: [Spits] Old Spitfire windshields??


Is it worth keeping old Spitfire windshields/frames?

I just threw out 2 cracked (due to storage for decades) ones.



I have one roundtail version out of frame and several in the frame.

(and a bunch of doors, boot lids, etc)



Making room. Western Massachusetts.

Clark

From cwnfot at gmail.com  Thu Oct 18 14:14:36 2012
From: cwnfot at gmail.com (Clark W. Nicholls)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:14:36 -0400
Subject: [Spits] Old Spitfire windshields??
In-Reply-To: <C654209E0E564798B5A9F1376DC05C84@Vista>
References: <01f401cdad5c$e8222240$b86666c0$@com>
	<C654209E0E564798B5A9F1376DC05C84@Vista>
Message-ID: <020e01cdad6d$32ef5a80$98ce0f80$@com>

Ok, they should not be thrown out.
Who wants them before they are?
Aren't new ones available? 

Near future demise of sway bars, engine front/rear plates, flywheels, bell
housings (cast iron), tranny cases (ci), etc.
Timing chain covers, oil pans, valve covers....
I have a bunch of transmissions too, 3 synchro in particular. I can't even
give them to John Esposito the transmission rebuilder (or Ted Schumacher)!
When I get to the many milk cartons full of parts, same thing.

Any happy restorers out there?
I hate to cause Andy's barn to collapse!

Brad Kahler had a similar dilemma and that had a sad ending at the scrapper.

Clark
Clark W. Nicholls
1972 Stag (LE7931E) for sale, 1974 Spitfire (FM14571U) 
and 1 rusty GT6 needing new owner
"Reality, it's not what you think." 

From doug at dougbraun.com  Thu Oct 18 15:27:23 2012
From: doug at dougbraun.com (Doug Braun)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 14:27:23 -0700
Subject: [Spits] Old Spitfire windshields??
In-Reply-To: <020e01cdad6d$32ef5a80$98ce0f80$@com>
References: <01f401cdad5c$e8222240$b86666c0$@com>
	<C654209E0E564798B5A9F1376DC05C84@Vista>
	<020e01cdad6d$32ef5a80$98ce0f80$@com>
Message-ID: <CAOtbU9Vj3fwpjG21LKtubJnrsFYbeYi43=kkygHFpX6k-mH45w@mail.gmail.com>

I could definitely use a transmission case (for a '72 3-rail).  I have a
full set of good internals, and a cracked case for them.
I might be interested in a crack-free windshield.  My windshield is
currently out of the car while it is being repainted,
and it has a small bulls-eye crack.

Paint job progress: http://dougbraun.com/blog/sptifire

Thanks,
Doug

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Clark W. Nicholls <cwnfot at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok, they should not be thrown out.
> Who wants them before they are?
> Aren't new ones available?
>
> Near future demise of sway bars, engine front/rear plates, flywheels, bell
> housings (cast iron), tranny cases (ci), etc.
> Timing chain covers, oil pans, valve covers....
> I have a bunch of transmissions too, 3 synchro in particular. I can't even
> give them to John Esposito the transmission rebuilder (or Ted Schumacher)!
> When I get to the many milk cartons full of parts, same thing.
>
> Any happy restorers out there?
> I hate to cause Andy's barn to collapse!
>
> Brad Kahler had a similar dilemma and that had a sad ending at the
> scrapper.
>
> Clark
> Clark W. Nicholls
> 1972 Stag (LE7931E) for sale, 1974 Spitfire (FM14571U)
> and 1 rusty GT6 needing new owner
> "Reality, it's not what you think."
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From mark at bradakis.com  Thu Oct 18 15:31:58 2012
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:31:58 -0600
Subject: [Spits] Old Spitfire windshields??
In-Reply-To: <CAOtbU9Vj3fwpjG21LKtubJnrsFYbeYi43=kkygHFpX6k-mH45w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <01f401cdad5c$e8222240$b86666c0$@com>
	<C654209E0E564798B5A9F1376DC05C84@Vista>
	<020e01cdad6d$32ef5a80$98ce0f80$@com>
	<CAOtbU9Vj3fwpjG21LKtubJnrsFYbeYi43=kkygHFpX6k-mH45w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5080754E.1010408@bradakis.com>

The windshield for square tail Spits & GT 6 is different than the round 
tail ones.  And
as mentioned previously the roundtail windshield also fits TR4 - 6 
cars.  As a matter of
fact my Killer Spit has a frame and glass from a '69 TR6 ( Have I ever 
mentioned CC25064 ? )

mjb.

From cwnfot at gmail.com  Thu Oct 18 20:47:18 2012
From: cwnfot at gmail.com (Clark W. Nicholls)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 22:47:18 -0400
Subject: [Spits] Old Spitfire windshields??
In-Reply-To: <CAOtbU9Vj3fwpjG21LKtubJnrsFYbeYi43=kkygHFpX6k-mH45w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <01f401cdad5c$e8222240$b86666c0$@com>
	<C654209E0E564798B5A9F1376DC05C84@Vista>
	<020e01cdad6d$32ef5a80$98ce0f80$@com>
	<CAOtbU9Vj3fwpjG21LKtubJnrsFYbeYi43=kkygHFpX6k-mH45w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000301cdada4$0eed31c0$2cc79540$@com>

Great! Perhaps we can find a new life for one of my collection!

I suspect most if not all of my empty cases are from early 3-synchro
trannys.

Is there any difference for the 4-synchro 3-rail boxes from 1972?

Is there a stamped tranny sequence number to check for?

Clark
Clark W. Nicholls
1972 Stag (LE7931E), 1974 Spitfire (FM14571U) 
and 1 rusty GT6 needing new owner
"Reality, it's not what you think." 

From cwnfot at gmail.com  Thu Oct 18 20:58:25 2012
From: cwnfot at gmail.com (Clark W. Nicholls)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 22:58:25 -0400
Subject: [Spits] Old Spitfire windshields??
In-Reply-To: <CAOtbU9Vj3fwpjG21LKtubJnrsFYbeYi43=kkygHFpX6k-mH45w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <01f401cdad5c$e8222240$b86666c0$@com>
	<C654209E0E564798B5A9F1376DC05C84@Vista>
	<020e01cdad6d$32ef5a80$98ce0f80$@com>
	<CAOtbU9Vj3fwpjG21LKtubJnrsFYbeYi43=kkygHFpX6k-mH45w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001a01cdada5$9c607a70$d5216f50$@com>

Forgot to mention the windshield.

Mark got me thinking, I may have a squaretail windshield, but I kinda doubt
it. 

The frames are part of the body on those and so none of the frame ones I
have would do.

I'll check the one I have out of frame and see if I can tell what it is.

 

Again, are new windshields available?

I remember getting them from somewhere in RI decades ago.


Clark
Clark W. Nicholls
1972 Stag (LE7931E), 1974 Spitfire (FM14571U) 
and 1 rusty GT6 needing new owner
"Reality, it's not what you think." 

From spitfire at freebacon.net  Thu Oct 18 21:06:52 2012
From: spitfire at freebacon.net (Mike Welch)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 21:06:52 -0600
Subject: [Spits] Old Spitfire windshields??
In-Reply-To: <020e01cdad6d$32ef5a80$98ce0f80$@com>
References: <01f401cdad5c$e8222240$b86666c0$@com><C654209E0E564798B5A9F1376DC05C84@Vista>
	<020e01cdad6d$32ef5a80$98ce0f80$@com>
Message-ID: <50DB3923FB70403B8B324D7F20E4C6FC@Spike>

If "Western Massachusetts" extends to Central Colorado I'd happily drag a 
trailer over...just to help out of course.  With a '62, two '69s and a '79, 
I'm always looking for parts and pieces.



Mike Welch
'62 MkI, 2 '69 MkIII, '79 1500
Colorado Springs, CO, USA
-----Original Message----- 
From: Clark W. Nicholls
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 2:14 PM
To: spitfires at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spits] Old Spitfire windshields??

Ok, they should not be thrown out.
Who wants them before they are?
Aren't new ones available?

Near future demise of sway bars, engine front/rear plates, flywheels, bell
housings (cast iron), tranny cases (ci), etc.
Timing chain covers, oil pans, valve covers....
I have a bunch of transmissions too, 3 synchro in particular. I can't even
give them to John Esposito the transmission rebuilder (or Ted Schumacher)!
When I get to the many milk cartons full of parts, same thing.

Any happy restorers out there?
I hate to cause Andy's barn to collapse!

Brad Kahler had a similar dilemma and that had a sad ending at the scrapper.

Clark
Clark W. Nicholls
1972 Stag (LE7931E) for sale, 1974 Spitfire (FM14571U)
and 1 rusty GT6 needing new owner
"Reality, it's not what you think."
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From zoboherald at aol.com  Fri Oct 19 12:27:51 2012
From: zoboherald at aol.com (Andrew S. Mace)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 14:27:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spits] Old Spitfire windshields??
In-Reply-To: <000301cdada4$0eed31c0$2cc79540$@com>
References: <01f401cdad5c$e8222240$b86666c0$@com>
	<C654209E0E564798B5A9F1376DC05C84@Vista>
	<020e01cdad6d$32ef5a80$98ce0f80$@com>
	<CAOtbU9Vj3fwpjG21LKtubJnrsFYbeYi43=kkygHFpX6k-mH45w@mail.gmail.com>
	<000301cdada4$0eed31c0$2cc79540$@com>
Message-ID: <8CF7C3E94E301A8-2554-96D4@webmail-m143.sysops.aol.com>

 Looking for an FH prefix on the gearbox serial number is much easier than
trying to measure the roughly 5/8" longer all-synchro case!



--Andy Mace

*Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet?
*Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph
Herald engine with wings.
-- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22)

Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph
Register: http://www.vtr.org

Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald
Database: http://triumph-herald.us




-----Original Message-----
From: Clark W. Nicholls <cwnfot at gmail.com>


Great! Perhaps we can find a new life for one of my collection!

I suspect most if not all of my empty cases are from early 3-synchro
trannys.

Is there any difference for the 4-synchro 3-rail boxes from 1972?

Is there a stamped tranny sequence number to check
for?fires/zoboherald at aol.com

From jim.dwyer at sympatico.ca  Fri Oct 26 14:26:07 2012
From: jim.dwyer at sympatico.ca (Jim Dwyer)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:26:07 -0400
Subject: [Spits] Clutch is slipping
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP31733D9A58898509A70E7F8C7E0@phx.gbl>

My clutch is starting to slip on my 76 Spit and probably needs replacing.

This winter I am planning on taking the tranny out through the interior and I
will also replace the three U joints in the rear end, get the flywheel
resurfaced, and replace the fluids in the tranny and rear end while I am at
it.

The only parts I have so far are the U joints and the rubber tranny mounts.  I
may need to install a new carpet set as well if the old one does not come out
in one piece.

Any suggestions on parts that work well or other things that I should do or
check while everything is apart would be appreciated.

Any tips or tricks that I should know would be great as well.

Thanks

Jim

From spitlist at cox.net  Fri Oct 26 14:45:06 2012
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 13:45:06 -0700
Subject: [Spits] Clutch is slipping
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP31733D9A58898509A70E7F8C7E0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP31733D9A58898509A70E7F8C7E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <5531EEF53FEF4FC2AC4B4C36926D7F44@Vista>

I've always used the Borg and Beck clutch kits and have never had an
instant's problems wit them.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Dwyer
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 1:26 PM
To: Spitfire list
Subject: [Spits] Clutch is slipping

My clutch is starting to slip on my 76 Spit and probably needs replacing.

This winter I am planning on taking the tranny out through the interior and
I
will also replace the three U joints in the rear end, get the flywheel
resurfaced, and replace the fluids in the tranny and rear end while I am at
it.

The only parts I have so far are the U joints and the rubber tranny mounts.
I
may need to install a new carpet set as well if the old one does not come
out
in one piece.

Any suggestions on parts that work well or other things that I should do or
check while everything is apart would be appreciated.

Any tips or tricks that I should know would be great as well.

Thanks

Jim
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From Michael.Mack at redcross.org  Fri Oct 26 14:59:16 2012
From: Michael.Mack at redcross.org (Mack, Michael (Rochester))
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 20:59:16 +0000
Subject: [Spits] Clutch is slipping
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP31733D9A58898509A70E7F8C7E0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP31733D9A58898509A70E7F8C7E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <6A6C6BB6A374144385E5E3CF3864B5452171D8B7@BY2PRD0410MB377.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

I replaced the clutch with a Borg and Beck this past Spring in my 79 Spit.
I've put 2k miles on it without any issues.  Gets my vote.

Mike Mack
79 Spitfire
73 Stag
80 TR8
76 TR7

From doug at dougbraun.com  Sun Oct 28 19:32:18 2012
From: doug at dougbraun.com (Doug Braun)
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 21:32:18 -0400
Subject: [Spits] Windshield installation tips?
Message-ID: <CAOtbU9WfJQr_bU1CJwxO47PrshjRYj6_BGESg0x0e+6d10bLeg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I am ready to re-install the windshield in my freshly-repainted Spit, with
a new rubber gasket (the more expensive version from TRF).
Does anyone have any tips?  I am particularly wondering if I ought to use
some sort of sealant during installation, or instead
apply it afterwards.

Thanks,

Doug

From doug at dougbraun.com  Sun Oct 28 19:43:10 2012
From: doug at dougbraun.com (Doug Braun)
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 21:43:10 -0400
Subject: [Spits] Pop Rivets
Message-ID: <CAOtbU9XgWVmsnus9iznFrf5MtCrM_TaHKe-EFSuL5WuRH6z15A@mail.gmail.com>

I need to re-install all those things that are pop-riveted in place, like
the top snaps and the trim
across the top of the windshield frame.  Is there a particular type of
pop-rivet I ought to use?
The parts vendors sell them, but I am wondering:  are they selling
authentic British pop-rivets,
or just the same generic ones I could get at Hope Depot?

BTW, here's the car:  http://dougbraun.com/blog/sptifire/


Thanks again,

Doug

From zoboherald at aol.com  Sun Oct 28 19:54:11 2012
From: zoboherald at aol.com (Andrew S. Mace)
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 21:54:11 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spits] Pop Rivets
In-Reply-To: <CAOtbU9XgWVmsnus9iznFrf5MtCrM_TaHKe-EFSuL5WuRH6z15A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOtbU9XgWVmsnus9iznFrf5MtCrM_TaHKe-EFSuL5WuRH6z15A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CF838F6CF85CCD-94C-4BB97@webmail-d010.sysops.aol.com>

 I think the only significant difference is that original rivets tended to be
steel, while those more commonly available from hardware stores tend to be
aluminum. At least that's what I remember, not having done this in quite some
time.



--Andy Mace

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*Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph
Herald engine with wings.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Braun <doug at dougbraun.com>
To: Spitfire Group <spitfires at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Oct 28, 2012 9:43 pm
Subject: [Spits] Pop Rivets


I need to re-install all those things that are pop-riveted in place, like
the top snaps and the trim
across the top of the windshield frame.  Is there a particular type of
pop-rivet I ought to use?
The parts vendors sell them, but I am wondering:  are they selling
authentic British pop-rivets,
or just the same generic ones I could get at Hope Depot?

From doug at dougbraun.com  Sun Oct 28 20:02:19 2012
From: doug at dougbraun.com (Doug Braun)
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 22:02:19 -0400
Subject: [Spits] Pop Rivets
In-Reply-To: <8CF838F6CF85CCD-94C-4BB97@webmail-d010.sysops.aol.com>
References: <CAOtbU9XgWVmsnus9iznFrf5MtCrM_TaHKe-EFSuL5WuRH6z15A@mail.gmail.com>
	<8CF838F6CF85CCD-94C-4BB97@webmail-d010.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <CAOtbU9VYXfZ7ek4Lg0Fe=FX9CBgHRuvYAoY9tjfbUxD2Y-pWYQ@mail.gmail.com>

Unfortunately I had to drill out and destroy all of the ones on my car.  I
should have taken some close-up photos first...

I have some interesting rivets I bought once, at a hardware store
going-out-of-business sale.  The bottom end
is sealed, so there is no path for moisture to pass through the center
hole.  I might use those.

Doug

On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Andrew S. Mace <zoboherald at aol.com> wrote:

>  I think the only significant difference is that original rivets tended
> to be steel, while those more commonly available from hardware stores
> tend to be aluminum. At least that's what I remember, not having done this
> in quite some time.
>
>  --Andy Mace

From doug at dougbraun.com  Sun Oct 28 20:04:13 2012
From: doug at dougbraun.com (Doug Braun)
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 22:04:13 -0400
Subject: [Spits] Pop Rivets
In-Reply-To: <CAOtbU9VYXfZ7ek4Lg0Fe=FX9CBgHRuvYAoY9tjfbUxD2Y-pWYQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOtbU9XgWVmsnus9iznFrf5MtCrM_TaHKe-EFSuL5WuRH6z15A@mail.gmail.com>
	<8CF838F6CF85CCD-94C-4BB97@webmail-d010.sysops.aol.com>
	<CAOtbU9VYXfZ7ek4Lg0Fe=FX9CBgHRuvYAoY9tjfbUxD2Y-pWYQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOtbU9UVw+VVXrXo8NdK5_UfoTXVpEeKhg28PDdA8_Ohx146hw@mail.gmail.com>

There are some very interesting pop rivets out there.  Home Depot sells
only the most mundane kind.
For example:

http://www.mcmaster.com/#pop-rivets/=jxa85i

Doug

From todjones at comcast.net  Mon Oct 29 12:51:51 2012
From: todjones at comcast.net (todjones at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 18:51:51 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spits] Pop Rivets
In-Reply-To: <CAOtbU9XgWVmsnus9iznFrf5MtCrM_TaHKe-EFSuL5WuRH6z15A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1498626923.1004838.1351536711164.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Use stainless steel pop rivets. They are sold alongside the aluminum ones at
most stores. If the holes are questionable use the washers in the same section
to back up the rivets. You just put in the rivet as usual. then reach around
to the other side to put on the washer before you set the rivet. To rivet the
snaps you may have to have the nose of the rivet tool turned down to fit
inside the snap. Otherwise it wont be tight.



Tod Jones

Harrisonburg VA.

67 Spit-6

----- Original Message -----


From: "Doug Braun" <doug at dougbraun.com>
To: "Spitfire Group" <spitfires at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 9:43:10 PM
Subject: [Spits] Pop Rivets

I need to re-install all those things that are pop-riveted in place, like
the top snaps and the trim
across the top of the windshield frame. B Is there a particular type of
pop-rivet I ought to use?
The parts vendors sell them, but I am wondering: B are they selling
authentic British pop-rivets,
or just the same generic ones I could get at Hope Depot?

BTW, here's the car: B http://dougbraun.com/blog/sptifire/


Thanks again,

Doug
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From cwnfot at gmail.com  Mon Oct 29 13:14:43 2012
From: cwnfot at gmail.com (Clark W. Nicholls)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:14:43 -0400
Subject: [Spits] Pop Rivets
In-Reply-To: <1498626923.1004838.1351536711164.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <CAOtbU9XgWVmsnus9iznFrf5MtCrM_TaHKe-EFSuL5WuRH6z15A@mail.gmail.com>
	<1498626923.1004838.1351536711164.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <002401cdb609$a766b760$f6342620$@com>

I use the screw-on top contact of a spark plug to shim out the pin of the
pop rivet. It fits into the recess of the snap!


Clark
Clark W. Nicholls
1972 Stag (LE7931E) for sale, 1974 Spitfire (FM14571U) 
and 1 rusty GT6 needing new owner KC 5577 L
www.botchagaloop.net for old racing photos
"Reality, it's not what you think."

-----Original Message-----
From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of todjones at comcast.net
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 2:52 PM
To: Spitfire Group
Subject: Re: [Spits] Pop Rivets

Use stainless steel pop rivets. They are sold alongside the aluminum ones at
most stores. If the holes are questionable use the washers in the same
section
to back up the rivets. You just put in the rivet as usual. then reach around
to the other side to put on the washer before you set the rivet. To rivet
the
snaps you may have to have the nose of the rivet tool turned down to fit
inside the snap. Otherwise it wont be tight.



Tod Jones

Harrisonburg VA.

67 Spit-6

----- Original Message -----


From: "Doug Braun" <doug at dougbraun.com>
To: "Spitfire Group" <spitfires at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 9:43:10 PM
Subject: [Spits] Pop Rivets

I need to re-install all those things that are pop-riveted in place, like
the top snaps and the trim
across the top of the windshield frame. B Is there a particular type of
pop-rivet I ought to use?
The parts vendors sell them, but I am wondering: B are they selling
authentic British pop-rivets,
or just the same generic ones I could get at Hope Depot?

BTW, here's the car: B http://dougbraun.com/blog/sptifire/


Thanks again,

Doug
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From doug at dougbraun.com  Mon Oct 29 13:39:52 2012
From: doug at dougbraun.com (Doug Braun)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:39:52 -0400
Subject: [Spits] Pop Rivets
In-Reply-To: <002401cdb609$a766b760$f6342620$@com>
References: <CAOtbU9XgWVmsnus9iznFrf5MtCrM_TaHKe-EFSuL5WuRH6z15A@mail.gmail.com>
	<1498626923.1004838.1351536711164.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<002401cdb609$a766b760$f6342620$@com>
Message-ID: <CAOtbU9VEFZLtRdowiWsCoE_AOS-5UHAiOKh3F4vQrh-fuezhiA@mail.gmail.com>

Brilliant!

Fortunately I have a pop rivet tool with a skinny snout.

Doug

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Clark W. Nicholls <cwnfot at gmail.com> wrote:

> I use the screw-on top contact of a spark plug to shim out the pin of the
> pop rivet. It fits into the recess of the snap!

From nmoseley at telus.net  Tue Oct 30 12:19:12 2012
From: nmoseley at telus.net (Nick Moseley)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:19:12 -0700
Subject: [Spits] Windshield installation tips?
In-Reply-To: <CAOtbU9WfJQr_bU1CJwxO47PrshjRYj6_BGESg0x0e+6d10bLeg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOtbU9WfJQr_bU1CJwxO47PrshjRYj6_BGESg0x0e+6d10bLeg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000101cdb6cb$21538370$63fa8a50$@net>

Doug, I'm no expert but will speak from the experience of having
successfully installed one windshield.
IMO, you should not need to use additional sealant.
If you are installing the chrome (or plastic) trim strips, I understand you
are far better to install them before installing the windshield.
I used the "rope trick" to pull the edge of the seal/gasket into the cabin.
One thing I would do differently is to feed the rope such that the join is
at the top, rather than the bottom of the windshield, as the last 4 inches
of seal was not pulled in by the rope, and it would have been easier to
access the gasket had it been at the top of the windshield.
Good luck, your Spit looks fantastic!

Nick Moseley





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From doug at dougbraun.com  Tue Oct 30 21:08:49 2012
From: doug at dougbraun.com (Doug Braun)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 23:08:49 -0400
Subject: [Spits] Pop Rivets
In-Reply-To: <001801cdb70e$3c7d4440$b577ccc0$@com>
References: <CAOtbU9XgWVmsnus9iznFrf5MtCrM_TaHKe-EFSuL5WuRH6z15A@mail.gmail.com>
	<1498626923.1004838.1351536711164.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<002401cdb609$a766b760$f6342620$@com>
	<CAOtbU9VEFZLtRdowiWsCoE_AOS-5UHAiOKh3F4vQrh-fuezhiA@mail.gmail.com>
	<001801cdb70e$3c7d4440$b577ccc0$@com>
Message-ID: <CAOtbU9UvDtiYkEsu7=aHRbK7aJyhrn3kaL8idA0tx1TzAN2AXA@mail.gmail.com>

I realized I still had a couple of original pop rivets -- for the snaps on
the side trim panels behind the seats, that hold the bottom corners of the
top boot.
They are definitely aluminum.

Doug

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Bill Gingerich <wrgingerich at gmail.com>wrote:

> Don't use the steel ones if you're putting the plastic tonneau cover snaps
> on the body.  The snaps will split.  Been there.
>
> BillG