From tedtsimx at bright.net Wed May 2 11:04:23 2012 From: tedtsimx at bright.net (Ted Schumacher) Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 13:04:23 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Kastner Cup T.shirt & Walter Mitty Message-ID: <4FA16917.4020007@bright.net> Hello lists. The Kastner Cup race was great. Lots of cars, good competition and fun. The Kastner Cup shirt was a hit and many people requested additional shirts. There seems to be enough interest to do one more run of shirts. We are donating a portion of the proceeds from the sale of all the Kastner Cup shirts to Mark Bradakis, the operator and majordomo of all the team.net sites. Mark's efforts benefit all of us in this hobby - racers, restorer's or just plain interested enthusiasts. Even if we don't get a sufficient number of orders, please donate to team.net. Kas likes the idea of Mark getting some extra funds and might be persuaded to autograph your shirt. Details worked out between buyers and Kas. Email Kas at kaskas at cox.net. We have a final order date of close of business, May 14. Tuesday we are go or no/go. Shirts will be $15 for size small through XL. $18 for XXL or XXXL. (price does not include shipping) You need to contact us with your name, shipping address and method of payment - Visa/MasterCard/Discover or send a check - no PayPal. If we have enough orders, shirts will be printed and shipped. If we do not have a sufficient number of orders,your information will be shredded. A minimum of 48 orders is needed. For those who have not seen the shirt, here is a link to view the shirt. http://littlebluespitfire.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=6612 Order early, order often. Thanks for all your support. Ted -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx at bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 108 S. Jefferson St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US& Canada) Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 From doug at dougbraun.com Wed May 2 11:50:03 2012 From: doug at dougbraun.com (Doug Braun) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 13:50:03 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Remove/replace Spitfire windshield (and paint question) Message-ID: Hello, I'm planning to repaint my car, and I want to remove and replace the windshield, with a new gasket. Does anybody have any tips on getting the windshield out without breaking it, and without messing up the interior trim? BTW, what sort of pain was originally used on these cars (in 1972, at least)? I need to figure out if there are any potential compatibility issues with the acrylic urethane paint I plan to use. Thanks, Doug '72 Spit From spitlist at cox.net Wed May 2 13:34:42 2012 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 12:34:42 -0700 Subject: [Spits] Remove/replace Spitfire windshield (and paint question) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3AFA3517066F4DA28F6EDEC0D418A8D2@Vista> The best way to accomplish what you are describing is to take a linoleum knife and cut away the outside lip of the gasket. That will allow you to lift the glass out without any obstruction. Your only problem might be if a previous owner has put any sort of sealant on the gasket which will make the glass stick to the remaining seal. In that case, you will have to run some sort of blede between the inner seal and glass to free the windshield. Joe -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Doug Braun Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 10:50 AM To: Spitfire Group Subject: [Spits] Remove/replace Spitfire windshield (and paint question) Hello, I'm planning to repaint my car, and I want to remove and replace the windshield, with a new gasket. Does anybody have any tips on getting the windshield out without breaking it, and without messing up the interior trim? BTW, what sort of pain was originally used on these cars (in 1972, at least)? I need to figure out if there are any potential compatibility issues with the acrylic urethane paint I plan to use. Thanks, Doug '72 Spit _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/spitlist at cox.net From tedtsimx at bright.net Wed May 2 13:47:58 2012 From: tedtsimx at bright.net (Ted Schumacher) Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 15:47:58 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Import Carlisle Message-ID: <4FA18F6E.9090107@bright.net> Hello list. We will be at Import Carlisle. Our space #'s are D50 and D51. If you need anything brought out to the event, free shipping is good, please let us know. We will have gear reduciton starters, steel braided brake and clutch hoses, suspension components and ???. Stop by and say hello. Thanks, Ted -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx at bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 108 S. Jefferson St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US& Canada) Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 From elliottr at rmi.net Wed May 2 18:48:41 2012 From: elliottr at rmi.net (Roger Elliott) Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 19:48:41 -0500 Subject: [Spits] Spitfire - turn signal horn switch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FA1D5E9.3@rmi.net> Hi All, I have an 80 Spitfire with the multi-function turn signal, horn and bright/dim switch. Has any one repaired the horn section on one? when the end of the stalk is twisted in any way the horn honks. That means almost any time I use the turn signals or the bright/dim, I also honk the horn. I know new ones are available, but if I can fix it easily I would prefer to spend the money on other parts. Thanks, Roger Elliott 80 Spitfire From jfreynolds_99 at yahoo.com Thu May 3 16:19:06 2012 From: jfreynolds_99 at yahoo.com (John Reynolds) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 15:19:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] Spitfires at the Mitty Message-ID: <1336083546.9160.YahooMailNeo@web162904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> NASS Members, Herman Schaller and the Georgia Triumph Association put on an excellent car show and associated events at the recent Mitty. What was suprising was that there were only one or two Spitfires in attendance. Later I noticed that there was a hard to see NASS encampment consisting of about 6 cars behind the Motorsports Magazine tent. What's up guys? Why don't you join in the fun. John Reynolds Houston, TX From parrotthead01 at comcast.net Wed May 9 15:25:12 2012 From: parrotthead01 at comcast.net (Daniel Parrott) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 17:25:12 -0400 Subject: [Spits] HIF 44 SU Carb Manual? Message-ID: <01c801cd2e2a$389b7a30$a9d26e90$@comcast.net> Does anyone have a recommendation for the installation, tuning and use of the HIF 44 SU 1.75 inch Carburetor? I need to set the air/fuel mixture, idle, choke, etc. There is a book called "SU Workshop Manual" for MGB's at Victoria British. I have the larger carb because of the Eaton MP Supercharger. TIA. Dan Parrott Savannah, Georgia 1980 Triumph Spitfire "PJ", AKA "Rat" 1973/1978 Spit Six "Joseph" 1957 Chevy Belair "Mayflower" From tedtsimx at bright.net Thu May 10 13:47:39 2012 From: tedtsimx at bright.net (Ted Schumacher) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 15:47:39 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Kastner Cup shirt - last call Message-ID: <4FAC1B5B.5050001@bright.net> Hello lists. The Kastner Cup t.shirt program is approaching the end of the ordering period. Monday is the last day to order. This shirt was very popular at the recent Mitty Vintage Race. If we have enough orders to do another run, we will. If not, no harm - no foul. We need your name, address, size and method of payment by close of business Monday. Tuesday will be go or no go time. Price is $15 for small - x-large and $18 for XXL or XXXL. Thanks for your time. Ted Shirt can be viewed at this link: http://littlebluespitfire.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=6612 -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx at bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 108 S. Jefferson St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US& Canada) Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 From doug at dougbraun.com Mon May 14 12:32:31 2012 From: doug at dougbraun.com (Doug Braun) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 14:32:31 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Remove/replace Spitfire windshield (and paint question) In-Reply-To: <3AFA3517066F4DA28F6EDEC0D418A8D2@Vista> References: <3AFA3517066F4DA28F6EDEC0D418A8D2@Vista> Message-ID: I did it this way, and it took about five minutes to get the windshield out (after I got the stainless steel trim off). Thanks, Doug On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Joe Curry wrote: > The best way to accomplish what you are describing is to take a linoleum > knife and cut away the outside lip of the gasket. That will allow you to > lift the glass out without any obstruction. Your only problem might be if > a > previous owner has put any sort of sealant on the gasket which will make > the > glass stick to the remaining seal. In that case, you will have to run some > sort of blede between the inner seal and glass to free the windshield. > > Joe > > -----Original Message----- > From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Doug Braun > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 10:50 AM > To: Spitfire Group > Subject: [Spits] Remove/replace Spitfire windshield (and paint question) > > Hello, > > I'm planning to repaint my car, and I want to remove and replace the > windshield, with a new gasket. > Does anybody have any tips on getting the windshield out without breaking > it, and without messing up the interior trim? > > BTW, what sort of pain was originally used on these cars (in 1972, at > least)? I need to figure out if there are any > potential compatibility issues with the acrylic urethane paint I plan to > use. From dave at ranteer.com Tue May 15 06:47:40 2012 From: dave at ranteer.com (Dave) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 07:47:40 -0500 Subject: [Spits] correct color question Message-ID: <28BB63B60ADD416D8FE48899A09E8AEB@ranteer.local> valve cover 63 tr4 valve cover 75 spitfire air cleaner 75 spitfire hood prop rod 75 spitfire thank you! From mark at bradakis.com Tue May 15 09:12:39 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 09:12:39 -0600 Subject: [Spits] [TR] correct color question In-Reply-To: <28BB63B60ADD416D8FE48899A09E8AEB@ranteer.local> References: <28BB63B60ADD416D8FE48899A09E8AEB@ranteer.local> Message-ID: <4FB27267.8080708@bradakis.com> Dave wrote: > valve cover 63 tr4 > valve cover 75 spitfire > air cleaner 75 spitfire > hood prop rod 75 spitfire > > From memory the TR4 valve cover should be chrome, silver on the Spit. Air cleaner I think was black, the prop rod should be body color. mjb. From mapper55 at hotmail.com Tue May 15 10:17:13 2012 From: mapper55 at hotmail.com (Charles Reid) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 12:17:13 -0400 Subject: [Spits] correct color question In-Reply-To: <28BB63B60ADD416D8FE48899A09E8AEB@ranteer.local> References: <28BB63B60ADD416D8FE48899A09E8AEB@ranteer.local> Message-ID: This site has sales brochures for most years of the Spitfire. Some are European and some are North American: http://www.triumphspitfire.nl This particular page shows the US spec 75 Spitfire: http://www.triumphspitfire.nl/brochurepics/1975_us_05.jpg It shows an orange valve cover. If you look in the background you can see part of a black air cleaner. The prop rod appears to be the same color as the car which is what I always thought was correct. Charles Reid 1980 Triumph Spitfire > From: dave at ranteer.com > To: triumphs at autox.team.net; spitfires at autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 07:47:40 -0500 > Subject: [Spits] correct color question > > valve cover 63 tr4 > valve cover 75 spitfire > air cleaner 75 spitfire > hood prop rod 75 spitfire > > thank you! > _______________________________________________ > > Spitfires at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/mapper55 at hotmail.com From tedtsimx at bright.net Tue May 15 13:14:59 2012 From: tedtsimx at bright.net (Ted Schumacher) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 15:14:59 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Kastner Cup shirt reprint Message-ID: <4FB2AB33.3090208@bright.net> Hello list members. We did not receive enough orders to reprint the Kas Cup shirt. For those who did order, thanks for the effort. Ted -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx at bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 108 S. Jefferson St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US& Canada) Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 From cwnfot at gmail.com Wed May 16 21:03:03 2012 From: cwnfot at gmail.com (Clark W. Nicholls) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 23:03:03 -0400 Subject: [Spits] eBay: Mystery Triumph GT6 or Spitfire Racing Gearbox Message-ID: <006701cd33d9$9469bd90$bd3d38b0$@com> NFI Interesting puzzle gearbox for Spitfire. Is it a close-ratio GT6 converted to Spitfire? http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150806989467 Item = 150806989467 Thinking back, I did get a tranny with OD from a clapped out Vitesse back in the 70s that bolted right in to my 1968 Mk3 Spitfire. Hmmmm. If I remember correctly. Or did I take the gearbox apart and build the OD into a Spitfire gear set? I think it was a 1500/1600cc 6 in that car. But this tranny has a KC number. http://club.triumph.org.uk/prefix1.htm#Vitesse Clark Clark W. Nicholls 1972 Stag (LE7931E), 1974 Spitfire (FM14571U) and 1 rusty GT6 needing new owner "Reality, it's not what you think." From v6spitfireguy at cox.net Thu May 17 16:45:18 2012 From: v6spitfireguy at cox.net (v6spitfireguy at cox.net) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 18:45:18 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Rear stub axles needed - Message-ID: <380-220125417224518578@M2W136.mail2web.com> I am working on something that requires the splined and bearing section, but not the flanges from the stub axles for the rear of the Spitfire/GT6. So what I am looking for is a pair of damaged stub axles for A Spitfire/GT6 Differential. The splines, and bearing surfaces must be good, but the flange can be in any shape, broken, bent ect since I'll be removing it anyway. If anybody has a pair (or even one) for a reasonable amount, lets talk! -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web From mark at bradakis.com Fri May 18 21:20:43 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 21:20:43 -0600 Subject: [Spits] Forums back up! Message-ID: <4FB7118B.8080506@bradakis.com> Spent some time working on the forums. Basic functionality is back. You can look at them, log in and post. Not yet sure if new registrations work, I'll test that soon. The incentive for getting this done was pretty selfish. I wanted to tell folks about an incident yesterday at work: http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=129 One minor nit is that for some reason this post doesn't show up when you click on 'View active topics' but it does show up when you click on 'View new posts' Oh well, I'm sure other problems will crop up as folks make use of it. mjb. From popeye444 at comcast.net Mon May 21 23:24:45 2012 From: popeye444 at comcast.net (David) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 22:24:45 -0700 Subject: [Spits] Front Bumper Message-ID: <004601cd37db$3442c910$9cc85b30$@comcast.net> I've been lurking on the list for a really long time but I now have a great 72 Mark IV that I just acquired so I expect I might be a bit more active now. I chose to get one that I could drive and not just another fixer project. This one was lovingly restored by someone else and I got it in really great condition. I think it's the first Spit I've ever seen with NO rust. The problem I'm experiencing that I could use your help with is the front bumper. I think when it was reassembled they put the front bumper on wrong. Maybe it's even the wrong bumper, did they change between the Mark IV and 1500? I only have the one Spit so I don't have another one to compare it to. There is a large gap in the front between the center front of the bonnet and the bumper just above where the license plate goes. It is MUCH wider than it should be and get narrower as it works around to just in front of the tire. The gap between the front valance (passenger side) and the front wheel well of the bonnet is super tight (touching) when the bonnet is closed. The driver side has a more normal gap in the same place. I don't see any way to adjust the bumper higher in the front. It seems like if it were raised in the front center that the trailing end of the bumper just in front of the tire would lower like a teeter totter. I tried to take some pics to show better what I'm talking about. See link below https://picasaweb.google.com/112760723054893641051/72Spitfire It seems like something was simply assembled incorrectly after it was rebuilt. I believe the car was fully disassembled during the restoration. It really is a beautiful job but the bumper just looks wrong. I could probably figure this out if I could just look at another Spit and compare. Anyone near Shelton Washington with a square tail that wants to meet up and compare? Maybe someone can look at the pics and give me an idea of what went wrong. David Gates '72 Spitfire w/1500 engine and OD From Michael.Mack at redcross.org Tue May 22 06:53:03 2012 From: Michael.Mack at redcross.org (Mack, Michael (Rochester)) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 12:53:03 +0000 Subject: [Spits] Front Bumper In-Reply-To: <004601cd37db$3442c910$9cc85b30$@comcast.net> References: <004601cd37db$3442c910$9cc85b30$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <6A6C6BB6A374144385E5E3CF3864B54506197CCE@BY2PRD0410MB377.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> David, It might be multiple mis-alignment issues adding up to that gap in the front. I think they used the same bumpers from 1971-78. I'd start by removing the front bumper. Then lay it upside down on a flat surface. Is it flat to the floor all along the bumpers top surface? If not, there's your issue, a bent bumper. Or, maybe your Bonnet nose isn't right. There should be some room in the bolts to lower the front end of the bonnet Mike Mack 79 Spitfire w/OD, Euro HS4 SUs, roller rockers, 4-2-1 exhaust, Double hoop rollbar 70 GT6 73 Stag 80 TR8 -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:25 AM To: Spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: [Spits] Front Bumper I've been lurking on the list for a really long time but I now have a great 72 Mark IV that I just acquired so I expect I might be a bit more active now. I chose to get one that I could drive and not just another fixer project. This one was lovingly restored by someone else and I got it in really great condition. I think it's the first Spit I've ever seen with NO rust. The problem I'm experiencing that I could use your help with is the front bumper. I think when it was reassembled they put the front bumper on wrong. Maybe it's even the wrong bumper, did they change between the Mark IV and 1500? I only have the one Spit so I don't have another one to compare it to. There is a large gap in the front between the center front of the bonnet and the bumper just above where the license plate goes. It is MUCH wider than it should be and get narrower as it works around to just in front of the tire. The gap between the front valance (passenger side) and the front wheel well of the bonnet is super tight (touching) when the bonnet is closed. The driver side has a more normal gap in the same place. I don't see any way to adjust the bumper higher in the front. It seems like if it were raised in the front center that the trailing end of the bumper just in front of the tire would lower like a teeter totter. I tried to take some pics to show better what I'm talking about. See link below https://picasaweb.google.com/112760723054893641051/72Spitfire It seems like something was simply assembled incorrectly after it was rebuilt. I believe the car was fully disassembled during the restoration. It really is a beautiful job but the bumper just looks wrong. I could probably figure this out if I could just look at another Spit and compare. Anyone near Shelton Washington with a square tail that wants to meet up and compare? Maybe someone can look at the pics and give me an idea of what went wrong. David Gates '72 Spitfire w/1500 engine and OD _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/michael.mack at redcross.org From jwolff3 at verizon.net Tue May 22 07:04:42 2012 From: jwolff3 at verizon.net (jwolff3 at verizon.net) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 08:04:42 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spits] Free 1147 block Message-ID: <25063176.668025.1337691882112.JavaMail.root@vznit170128> /local/mailman/lynxXXXXLxH12D: Permission denied From doug at dougbraun.com Tue May 22 07:32:30 2012 From: doug at dougbraun.com (Doug Braun) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 09:32:30 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Front Bumper In-Reply-To: <6A6C6BB6A374144385E5E3CF3864B54506197CCE@BY2PRD0410MB377.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> References: <004601cd37db$3442c910$9cc85b30$@comcast.net> <6A6C6BB6A374144385E5E3CF3864B54506197CCE@BY2PRD0410MB377.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: The car may have been hit once upon a time. The entire package of bumpers, front cross-member, and valences might be twisted downwards. Just last week I took apart the front endof my car in preparation for a paint job. Speaking from experience, you may be surprised at what you find... BTW, where can I get one of those nice front license plate surrounds that fits up against the bumper.? For the entire 20+ years I have owned my car, the front bumper has been held on by a pair of hardware-store angle brackets. Doug Braun '72 Spit On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Mack, Michael (Rochester) < Michael.Mack at redcross.org> wrote: > David, > > It might be multiple mis-alignment issues adding up to that gap in the > front. > I think they used the same bumpers from 1971-78. > I'd start by removing the front bumper. Then lay it upside down on a flat > surface. Is it flat to the floor all along the bumpers top surface? If > not, > there's your issue, a bent bumper. Or, maybe your Bonnet nose isn't right. > There should be some room in the bolts to lower the front end of the bonnet > > Mike Mack > 79 Spitfire w/OD, Euro HS4 SUs, roller rockers, 4-2-1 exhaust, Double hoop > rollbar > 70 GT6 > 73 Stag > 80 TR8 From jwolff3 at verizon.net Tue May 22 07:54:09 2012 From: jwolff3 at verizon.net (jwolff3 at verizon.net) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 08:54:09 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spits] Free 1147cc block Message-ID: <11895463.674863.1337694849360.JavaMail.root@vznit170128> /local/mailman/lynxXXXX4yKRp8: Permission denied From mark at bradakis.com Tue May 22 08:14:04 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 08:14:04 -0600 Subject: [Spits] Free 1147cc block In-Reply-To: <11895463.674863.1337694849360.JavaMail.root@vznit170128> References: <11895463.674863.1337694849360.JavaMail.root@vznit170128> Message-ID: <4FBB9F2C.4000608@bradakis.com> jwolff3 at verizon.net wrote: > /local/mailman/lynxXXXX4yKRp8: Permission denied > I doubt you have an option to send in plain text. Try changing your font. mjb. From jwolff3 at verizon.net Tue May 22 08:28:14 2012 From: jwolff3 at verizon.net (jwolff3 at verizon.net) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 09:28:14 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spits] Free 1147cc engine block Message-ID: <26989746.679488.1337696894523.JavaMail.root@vznit170128> I have a extra block if anyone wants it. It turns freely... I used the head to replace my cracked head during my engine rebuild. Located in Ashburn, VA 20148 (Northern VA) Thanks, Jason From popeye444 at comcast.net Tue May 22 08:46:38 2012 From: popeye444 at comcast.net (David) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 07:46:38 -0700 Subject: [Spits] Front Bumper In-Reply-To: References: <004601cd37db$3442c910$9cc85b30$@comcast.net> <6A6C6BB6A374144385E5E3CF3864B54506197CCE@BY2PRD0410MB377.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: <005601cd3829$b2528720$16f79560$@comcast.net> Thanks everyone. Good insights. I'll remove the bumper and check for straightness. Visually (still on the car) it looks good. But I'll check it off the car too. My concern about trying to lower the bonnet in the front is that it is already touching the front valance on the passenger side. That valance doesn't seem to have much/any adjustment in it. Perhaps I'll remove the valance, lower the bonnet in the front and then see what it will take to get the valance back on and line up. I can always create some custom brackets to get the valance to go back on right, but doing that would seem to indicate I'm compensating for a misalignment or unobvious accident damage somewhere else. As for frame damage, that was actually my first thought but I dismissed it after looking closely at it. I couldn't see any obvious signs of bending or distortion. Does anyone have any measurements as reference that might tell me if the frame is out of whack. I suspect the problems are a result of a complete disassembly and then not being correctly reassembled rather than accident damage, but who knows. Doug - This Spit came with the license plate frame, so I'm not sure where to get one. Although, I did have a previous Spit with one just like it so they may be available somewhere. . . Actually, I just checked ebay, but it's kinda spendy. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Spitfire-license-plate-holder-601100201-/31022423888 1 Dave -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Doug Braun Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:33 AM To: Mack, Michael (Rochester); Spitfire Group Subject: Re: [Spits] Front Bumper The car may have been hit once upon a time. The entire package of bumpers, front cross-member, and valences might be twisted downwards. Just last week I took apart the front endof my car in preparation for a paint job. Speaking from experience, you may be surprised at what you find... BTW, where can I get one of those nice front license plate surrounds that fits up against the bumper.? For the entire 20+ years I have owned my car, the front bumper has been held on by a pair of hardware-store angle brackets. Doug Braun '72 Spit On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Mack, Michael (Rochester) < Michael.Mack at redcross.org> wrote: > David, > > It might be multiple mis-alignment issues adding up to that gap in the > front. > I think they used the same bumpers from 1971-78. > I'd start by removing the front bumper. Then lay it upside down on a > flat surface. Is it flat to the floor all along the bumpers top > surface? If not, there's your issue, a bent bumper. Or, maybe your > Bonnet nose isn't right. > There should be some room in the bolts to lower the front end of the > bonnet > > Mike Mack > 79 Spitfire w/OD, Euro HS4 SUs, roller rockers, 4-2-1 exhaust, Double > hoop rollbar > 70 GT6 > 73 Stag > 80 TR8 _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/popeye444 at comcast.net From kg4tqe at gmail.com Tue May 22 19:23:57 2012 From: kg4tqe at gmail.com (Don Wankel) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 21:23:57 -0400 Subject: [Spits] front bumper Message-ID: <4fbc3c2d.0e0c650a.13ac.ffffcf80@mx.google.com> /local/mailman/lynxXXXXmUN5LU: Permission denied From bberger720 at sbcglobal.net Tue May 22 21:23:41 2012 From: bberger720 at sbcglobal.net (Berger Bob) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 22:23:41 -0500 Subject: [Spits] Front Bumper In-Reply-To: <005601cd3829$b2528720$16f79560$@comcast.net> References: <004601cd37db$3442c910$9cc85b30$@comcast.net> <6A6C6BB6A374144385E5E3CF3864B54506197CCE@BY2PRD0410MB377.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> <005601cd3829$b2528720$16f79560$@comcast.net> Message-ID: The valances have a bracket that connects them to the frame with 4 bolts - 2 into the frame and 2 into the valance. Each of the bolt holes in the bracket are slotted for lots of movement in every direction. The corner of the valance closest to the wheel controls the location of the ends of the bumper. After you remove the bumper to check if it is flat but before you put it back on is the time to adjust the valances. 1st step is to make sure you have good gaps between the hood and the body. These get adjusted at the hood hinge bolts. Next loosen all 4 of the bolts that hold the valance on - just loose enough that you can move the valance but not floppy loose. Then, with the hood closed, move the valances so that the seal along the top is just touching the underside of the hood along the whole length. When happy tighten the 4 bolts back up. Reinstall the bumper. I had to do this after poor assembly by a body shop. Bob Berger St. Louis 78 Spitfire owned since '90 On May 22, 2012, at 9:46 AM, "David" wrote: > Thanks everyone. Good insights. > > I'll remove the bumper and check for straightness. Visually (still on the > car) it looks good. But I'll check it off the car too. > > My concern about trying to lower the bonnet in the front is that it is > already touching the front valance on the passenger side. That valance > doesn't seem to have much/any adjustment in it. Perhaps I'll remove the > valance, lower the bonnet in the front and then see what it will take to get > the valance back on and line up. I can always create some custom brackets > to get the valance to go back on right, but doing that would seem to > indicate I'm compensating for a misalignment or unobvious accident damage > somewhere else. > > As for frame damage, that was actually my first thought but I dismissed it > after looking closely at it. I couldn't see any obvious signs of bending or > distortion. Does anyone have any measurements as reference that might tell > me if the frame is out of whack. I suspect the problems are a result of a > complete disassembly and then not being correctly reassembled rather than > accident damage, but who knows. > > Doug - This Spit came with the license plate frame, so I'm not sure where to > get one. Although, I did have a previous Spit with one just like it so they > may be available somewhere. . . Actually, I just checked ebay, but it's > kinda spendy. > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Spitfire-license-plate-holder-601100201-/31022423888 > 1 > > Dave From elliottr at rmi.net Wed May 23 08:30:35 2012 From: elliottr at rmi.net (Roger Elliott) Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 09:30:35 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Spits] Pertronix in 1980 Spitfire Message-ID: <10735172.1337783435424.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hi, I have a Pertronix unit in my 1980 Spitfire (45DM4). The Ignitor plate is held in place using one screw, so it can pivot some and change the gap between the ignitor and the magnetic sleeve. I contacted Pertronix - they said I don't need to worry about the gap as it is preset. But since the ignitor plate will pivot, the gap can change. Anyone have any suggestions on how it is properly positioned? Thanks, Roger Elliott From tr6parts at charter.net Wed May 23 12:34:59 2012 From: tr6parts at charter.net (tr6parts at charter.net) Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 14:34:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spits] Pertronix in 1980 Spitfire Message-ID: <766803a1.1a198c.1377afb02b2.Webtop.48@charter.net> They originally come with a piece of plastic that is used to set the gap. Unfortunately I don't have it with me to tell you how wide it is. Al On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Roger Elliott wrote: > Hi, > > I have a Pertronix unit in my 1980 Spitfire (45DM4). The Ignitor > plate is held in place using one screw, so it can pivot some and > change the gap between the ignitor and the magnetic sleeve. > I contacted Pertronix - they said I don't need to worry about the gap > as it is preset. But since the ignitor plate will pivot, the gap can > change. > > Anyone have any suggestions on how it is properly positioned? > > Thanks, > Roger Elliott > _______________________________________________ > > Spitfires at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/tr6parts at charter.net From dave at ranteer.com Fri May 25 19:18:16 2012 From: dave at ranteer.com (Dave) Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 20:18:16 -0500 Subject: [Spits] master brake Message-ID: <856807F27C704C3A983F4CC9F5B3AE78@ranteer.local> I believe the master brake reservoir is leaking between the plastic and the metal. can I take it apart and put in a gasket or something? or should I replace/rebuild the whole assembly? From aljlthomson at charter.net Mon May 28 18:20:49 2012 From: aljlthomson at charter.net (Alex & Janet Thomson) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 20:20:49 -0400 Subject: [Spits] British Car Week Message-ID: <000601cd3d30$e688c520$b39a4f60$@charter.net> LBC Drivers - Don't forget! This is British Car Week. Sidestep the few showers and get the old iron out and running. See the link. Alex Thomson Connecticut Triumph Register www.britishcarweek.org From fpspitfire at comcast.net Mon May 28 18:49:07 2012 From: fpspitfire at comcast.net (Aaron Johnson) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 19:49:07 -0500 Subject: [Spits] British Car Week In-Reply-To: <000601cd3d30$e688c520$b39a4f60$@charter.net> References: <000601cd3d30$e688c520$b39a4f60$@charter.net> Message-ID: <4B2456A5E4C64AF1B8B40C296D9F9EF5@AaronJohnsonPC> I had the race car out at Nelson Ledges over the weekend and it will be back in action at Mid-America Motorplex near Omaha this weekend!!!! aaron johnson #87 HP Spitfire 1500 -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alex & Janet Thomson Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 7:21 PM To: CTRIUMPH at yahoogroups.com; spitfires at autox.team.net; Triumphs at autox.team.net; 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [Spits] British Car Week LBC Drivers - Don't forget! This is British Car Week. Sidestep the few showers and get the old iron out and running. See the link. Alex Thomson Connecticut Triumph Register www.britishcarweek.org _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/fpspitfire at comcast.net From bberger720 at sbcglobal.net Mon May 28 20:52:57 2012 From: bberger720 at sbcglobal.net (Berger Bob) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 21:52:57 -0500 Subject: [Spits] British Car Week In-Reply-To: <4B2456A5E4C64AF1B8B40C296D9F9EF5@AaronJohnsonPC> References: <000601cd3d30$e688c520$b39a4f60$@charter.net> <4B2456A5E4C64AF1B8B40C296D9F9EF5@AaronJohnsonPC> Message-ID: I got mine out this morning too give it a bath and a rub down with a clay brick. I'll wax it tomorrow after work. Bob Berger JE Novack Const. On May 28, 2012, at 7:49 PM, "Aaron Johnson" wrote: > I had the race car out at Nelson Ledges over the weekend and it will be back > in action at Mid-America Motorplex near Omaha this weekend!!!! > > aaron johnson > #87 HP Spitfire 1500 > > -----Original Message----- > From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alex & Janet Thomson > Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 7:21 PM > To: CTRIUMPH at yahoogroups.com; spitfires at autox.team.net; > Triumphs at autox.team.net; 6pack at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spits] British Car Week > > LBC Drivers - Don't forget! This is British Car Week. Sidestep the few > showers and get the old iron out and running. See the link. > > > > Alex Thomson > > Connecticut Triumph Register > > > > www.britishcarweek.org > _______________________________________________ > > Spitfires at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/fpspitfire at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > > Spitfires at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/bberger720 at sbcglobal.net From popeye444 at comcast.net Mon May 28 21:52:47 2012 From: popeye444 at comcast.net (David) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 20:52:47 -0700 Subject: [Spits] Front Bumper In-Reply-To: References: <004601cd37db$3442c910$9cc85b30$@comcast.net> <6A6C6BB6A374144385E5E3CF3864B54506197CCE@BY2PRD0410MB377.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> <005601cd3829$b2528720$16f79560$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <005201cd3d4e$8390c9e0$8ab25da0$@comcast.net> I've been messing around with this darn bumper/valance/bonnet alignment on and off for about a week. Everything was starting to line up better as I messed around with it more. However, the passenger side valance just wouldn't adjust low enough to avoid contact with the bonnet. Finally, I realized the bracket (see pic in link below) attaching the valance to the frame was upside down. It has slots for adjustment. One side of the bracket has vertical slots the other side has horizontal slots. The horizontal slots were at the top making it impossible to lower the valance to where it needed to be. Once I flipped it over everything finally fell into alignment. By the way, the driver side bracket was correct, but I didn't notice it until I realized the passenger side was wrong. Thanks everyone for the help and encouragement. https://picasaweb.google.com/112760723054893641051/72Spitfire#57477945439817 77938 David Gates '72 Spitfire Shelton, WA -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Berger Bob Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:24 PM To: Spitfire Group Subject: Re: [Spits] Front Bumper The valances have a bracket that connects them to the frame with 4 bolts - 2 into the frame and 2 into the valance. Each of the bolt holes in the bracket are slotted for lots of movement in every direction. The corner of the valance closest to the wheel controls the location of the ends of the bumper. After you remove the bumper to check if it is flat but before you put it back on is the time to adjust the valances. 1st step is to make sure you have good gaps between the hood and the body. These get adjusted at the hood hinge bolts. Next loosen all 4 of the bolts that hold the valance on - just loose enough that you can move the valance but not floppy loose. Then, with the hood closed, move the valances so that the seal along the top is just touching the underside of the hood along the whole length. When happy tighten the 4 bolts back up. Reinstall the bumper. I had to do this after poor assembly by a body shop. Bob Berger St. Louis 78 Spitfire owned since '90 On May 22, 2012, at 9:46 AM, "David" wrote: > Thanks everyone. Good insights. > > I'll remove the bumper and check for straightness. Visually (still on > the > car) it looks good. But I'll check it off the car too. > > My concern about trying to lower the bonnet in the front is that it is > already touching the front valance on the passenger side. That > valance doesn't seem to have much/any adjustment in it. Perhaps I'll > remove the valance, lower the bonnet in the front and then see what it > will take to get > the valance back on and line up. I can always create some custom > brackets to get the valance to go back on right, but doing that would > seem to indicate I'm compensating for a misalignment or unobvious > accident damage somewhere else. > > As for frame damage, that was actually my first thought but I > dismissed it after looking closely at it. I couldn't see any obvious > signs of bending or > distortion. Does anyone have any measurements as reference that might > tell me if the frame is out of whack. I suspect the problems are a > result of a complete disassembly and then not being correctly > reassembled rather than accident damage, but who knows. > > Doug - This Spit came with the license plate frame, so I'm not sure > where to > get one. Although, I did have a previous Spit with one just like it > so they > may be available somewhere. . . Actually, I just checked ebay, but > it's kinda spendy. > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Spitfire-license-plate-holder-601100201-/31022423888 > 1 > > Dave _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/popeye444 at comcast.net From mark at bradakis.com Tue May 29 14:42:54 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 14:42:54 -0600 Subject: [Spits] British Car Week undertaking Message-ID: <4FC534CE.6080309@bradakis.com> This could be tough. I may need some moral support later this week! http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=130 mjb. From mark at bradakis.com Tue May 29 15:39:44 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 15:39:44 -0600 Subject: [Spits] [TR] British Car Week undertaking In-Reply-To: <4FC53936.3050105@rmi.net> References: <4FC534CE.6080309@bradakis.com> <4FC53936.3050105@rmi.net> Message-ID: <4FC54220.5080905@bradakis.com> Pat Fischer wrote: > Oh, dear. I THINK it looks like a pretty car! You'll be seeing more pictures of it as the week goes on. It really doesn't look that bad! > Maybe a garage sale to help with Spit restoration? > Actually I think I have all the parts I need to just get it running again, so it won't cost much, just fresh oil, gas, etc. But I'm always willing to accept contributions to the Fat Chance Garage Tool and Beverage Fund! I do have some items in the garage left over from the shop that I no longer need, will be selling those locally, here in Salt Lake. Getting the Killer Spit back into shape, that's a different story! mjb. From dave at ranteer.com Tue May 29 16:20:18 2012 From: dave at ranteer.com (Dave) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 17:20:18 -0500 Subject: [Spits] spit valve cover In-Reply-To: <4FC534CE.6080309@bradakis.com> References: <4FC534CE.6080309@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <11771E30D5114C989CCA717066ADE217@ranteer.local> does anyone have a rattle can brand/# that closely matches the correct color? I believe its just off pumpkin orange . . . From celiracer81 at hotmail.com Wed May 30 12:16:11 2012 From: celiracer81 at hotmail.com (celiracer81 at hotmail.com) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 13:16:11 -0500 Subject: [Spits] British Car Week In-Reply-To: References: <000601cd3d30$e688c520$b39a4f60$@charter.net>, <4B2456A5E4C64AF1B8B40C296D9F9EF5@AaronJohnsonPC>, Message-ID: Unfortunately, my LBC isn't even close to being ready for this week. :( Needs a lot of time and money. Maybe this week while the child is at grandma and grandpa's house, I can get under the bonnet again. As she sits... http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/39/dscn3138.jpg/ From parrotthead01 at comcast.net Thu May 31 13:25:02 2012 From: parrotthead01 at comcast.net (Daniel Parrott) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 15:25:02 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Brown Houndstooth Fabric Message-ID: <059001cd3f63$1439b1d0$3cad1570$@comcast.net> I'm using modified Miata seats for my SpitSix project. I would like a nod to originality by using tan interior with brown Houndstooth fabric in the inserts. Does anyone have a source for some material that will match the original fabric? TIA Dan Parrott Savannah, Georgia 1980 Triumph Spitfire "PJ", AKA "Rat" 1973/1978 Spit Six "Joseph" 1957 Chevy Belair "Mayflower" . __,_._,___ From mapper55 at hotmail.com Thu May 31 14:10:03 2012 From: mapper55 at hotmail.com (Charles Reid) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 16:10:03 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Brown Houndstooth Fabric Message-ID: Just curious. Have you looked at a Spit with Miata seats? I ask because in the ones I'VE seen, the seats sit very high. In my case, so high I am looking over the windshield. Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Daniel Parrott Sent: 5/31/2012 3:25 PM To: SPIT6CGT6 at yahoogroups.com; spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: [Spits] Brown Houndstooth Fabric I'm using modified Miata seats for my SpitSix project. I would like a nod to originality by using tan interior with brown Houndstooth fabric in the inserts. Does anyone have a source for some material that will match the original fabric? TIA Dan Parrott Savannah, Georgia 1980 Triumph Spitfire "PJ", AKA "Rat" 1973/1978 Spit Six "Joseph" 1957 Chevy Belair "Mayflower" . __,_._,___ _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/mapper55 at hotmail.com