From vicwhit3 at rogers.com Thu Sep 1 08:07:06 2011 From: vicwhit3 at rogers.com (Vic Whitmore) Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2011 10:07:06 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Spitfire Oil Temp In-Reply-To: <4E5ED628.6060402@rmi.net> References: <4E5ED628.6060402@rmi.net> Message-ID: <4E5F918A.7010703@rogers.com> Get at handheld infrared meter at Harbor Freight (US) or Princess Auto (Canada). Just point it at the oil pan and take a reading. It will be a little cooler that the actual oil running through the engine but not by much. They are cheap enough now that you can easily justify one in your toolbox. It will come in handy for other temperature readings as well, such as coolant temperature. Vic Whitmore 76 Spits X2 On 8/31/2011 8:47 PM, Roger Elliott wrote: > Hi, > > Is there an easy way to check oil temperature in a Spitfire? I know I can put in > an oil temp gauge, but that seems like a lot of work for what is not going to be > a permanent installation. From what I understand, the oil temp sender has to be > in the oil pan itself. > > > Thanks, > Roger Elliott > 80 Spitfire > _______________________________________________ > > Spitfires at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/vicwhit3 at rogers.com From buss3 at rogers.com Sat Sep 3 08:54:56 2011 From: buss3 at rogers.com (Grant) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 10:54:56 -0400 Subject: [Spits] OD fuse Message-ID: <4789E8CF7BC0487885F9DF2EB4928262@MainPC> Hi everyone I have a problem with my OD. The top fuse will blow as soon as I move the switch to turn on the OD. After that happened twice I didnbt use the OD anymore and the fuse stayed good for the rest of the weekend. I canbt see anything wrong with the wires or the switch. In the garage I have moved the wires every way I can and I have moved the switch to turn the OD on and off. No blown fuse. Would that be different then if the car was moving?? I am thinking of putting a separate fuse for the OD so that if it blows it will be only the OD that stops working. I think the fuse should be on the Green wire not the Green and Brown . Thank you for any help you can give me. Grant Buss From spitlist at cox.net Sat Sep 3 10:38:51 2011 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 09:38:51 -0700 Subject: [Spits] OD fuse In-Reply-To: <4789E8CF7BC0487885F9DF2EB4928262@MainPC> References: <4789E8CF7BC0487885F9DF2EB4928262@MainPC> Message-ID: <9E310FEF34FE46DEBE7ADB5291A66A87@Vista> Grant (what a great last name for a fuse related issue), What you are describing is a classic short to ground situation. When you turn on the OD switch, the short is causing too much current to go through the fuse and it blows. The short cold be anywhere in that circuit including the OD solenoid itself. To find the trouble, you will need an ohmmeter to trace where the short is. By disconnecting the wires one at a time anc checking for continuity, you should be able to locate the problem. Joe -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Grant Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 7:55 AM To: Spitfire List Subject: [Spits] OD fuse Hi everyone I have a problem with my OD. The top fuse will blow as soon as I move the switch to turn on the OD. After that happened twice I didnbt use the OD anymore and the fuse stayed good for the rest of the weekend. I canbt see anything wrong with the wires or the switch. In the garage I have moved the wires every way I can and I have moved the switch to turn the OD on and off. No blown fuse. Would that be different then if the car was moving?? I am thinking of putting a separate fuse for the OD so that if it blows it will be only the OD that stops working. I think the fuse should be on the Green wire not the Green and Brown . Thank you for any help you can give me. Grant Buss _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/spitlist at cox.net From jimmuller at rcn.com Sat Sep 3 17:29:59 2011 From: jimmuller at rcn.com (Jim Muller) Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 19:29:59 -0400 Subject: [Spits] OD fuse In-Reply-To: <4789E8CF7BC0487885F9DF2EB4928262@MainPC> Message-ID: <4E628037.15903.1668DF77@localhost> On 3 Sep 2011 at 10:54, Grant wrote: > I have a problem with my OD. The top fuse will blow as soon > as I move the switch to turn on the OD. You obviously have a bad OD solenoid. It is supposed to burn out to protect the fuse. All seriousness aside, have you re-wired anything lately? If you ran the power wired directly to the switch instead of to the solenoid it would cause an immediate short to ground. This would bypass the solenoid and prevent it from protecting the fuse. -- Jim Muller jimmuller at rcn.com '80 Spitfire, '70 GT6+ From sdimm001 at msn.com Mon Sep 5 12:46:30 2011 From: sdimm001 at msn.com (sdimm001) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 14:46:30 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Floor pans Message-ID: I purchased a new pair of floor pans for a 68 spitfire. Anyone have any experiences they could share about having the floor pans replaced on the spitfire? I don't want to run into anything unexpected. From mapper55 at hotmail.com Tue Sep 6 09:42:42 2011 From: mapper55 at hotmail.com (Charles Reid) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 11:42:42 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Floor pans In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You didn't mention if it is the entire floor pan or part (front or back). I replaced both floor pans in my Spit with the complete units. I also purchased the floor cross members but you can reuse your old ones if the floor pan rust doesn't affect them. Be careful cutting them out. You can cut around them and then remove the piece of the floor pan welded to them. You will also have difficulty cutting around the suspension bracket at the rear of the floor pan near the doors. If you have to replace them be sure the person doing the welding knows what he is doing. You don't want that part to fail while you are driving. I didn't remove the body from the frame. I strongly recommend getting a combination punch and flange tool (http://www.htpweld.com/products/metal_working_tools/index.htm). I didn't replace the suspension brackets. All welding was done with a cheap wire fed 120v electric welder. Cut out the old floor pans. Fit the new floor pans in the opening (easier said than done). Use a few sheet metal screws to hold the new pan in position. Punch the edges of then cross member and bolt it in place. Make sure the floor is fairly level before you start welding. Once you are satisfied with the fit, weld everything in place. Remember to remove the sheet metal screws and weld the holes shut. Charles Reid 1980 Triumph Spitfire > From: sdimm001 at msn.com > Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 14:46:30 -0400 > To: spitfires at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spits] Floor pans > > I purchased a new pair of floor pans for a 68 spitfire. Anyone have any > experiences they could share about having the floor pans replaced on the > spitfire? I don't want to run into anything unexpected. > _______________________________________________ > > Spitfires at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/mapper55 at hotmail.com From doug at dougbraun.com Wed Sep 7 12:21:51 2011 From: doug at dougbraun.com (Douglas Braun) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 14:21:51 -0400 Subject: [Spits] New Workshop Manual Message-ID: I'm sure you all have a couple of other books in this series: http://www.thinkgeek.com/books/scifi/ea5e/?cpg=169NRP&link Doug From Mackmi at usa.redcross.org Wed Sep 7 12:28:23 2011 From: Mackmi at usa.redcross.org (Mackmi at usa.redcross.org) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 14:28:23 -0400 Subject: [Spits] New Workshop Manual In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <32B95304CB44EF4E81483EEA6D05978211156391@brnyrchex2.bio.ri.redcross.net> Hmmm. Haynes usually does a complete tear-down of the vehicle. Must have taken a while with this. A Frame-off, maybe. lol Michael Mack 79 Spit 73 Stag 80 TR8 70 GT6 -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Douglas Braun Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 2:22 PM To: Spitfire Group Subject: [Spits] New Workshop Manual I'm sure you all have a couple of other books in this series: http://www.thinkgeek.com/books/scifi/ea5e/?cpg=169NRP&link Doug _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/mackmi at usa.redcross.org From buss3 at rogers.com Wed Sep 7 13:26:56 2011 From: buss3 at rogers.com (Grant) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 15:26:56 -0400 Subject: [Spits] OD Problem Solved Message-ID: <2369239116E94DDAB1249E6BCC9A9EB8@MainPC> Turns out there was a crack in the insulation on one of the wires attached to the switch, that could come in contact with the shifter. I fixed the wire and took it for a driveball seems good. Jo, Bob and Jim, thanks for the advice. From elliottr at rmi.net Tue Sep 13 18:02:28 2011 From: elliottr at rmi.net (Roger Elliott) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:02:28 -0500 Subject: [Spits] Spitfire Oil Temp In-Reply-To: <4E5F918A.7010703@rogers.com> References: <4E5ED628.6060402@rmi.net> <4E5F918A.7010703@rogers.com> Message-ID: <4E6FEF14.9050709@rmi.net> Hi Everyone, It took me a while to get this checked out. Several people suggested getting an infrared meter, which I did. Thanks for the suggestion. Most places on the oil pan it was around 200 - 212 degrees. But around the exhaust it was about 255 degrees. The oil pump pickup is right behind that area of the oil pan. When I rebuilt the engine several years ago, the mechanic as I recall suggested making a heat shield to go between the exhaust and the oil pan. I purchased some materials to do that but never got it done. Now I am wondering if it is the reason for my oil pressure being a bit low. Roger On 9/1/2011 9:07 AM, Vic Whitmore wrote: > Get at handheld infrared meter at Harbor Freight (US) or Princess Auto > (Canada). Just point it at the oil pan and take a reading. It will be > a little cooler that the actual oil running through the engine but not > by much. They are cheap enough now that you can easily justify one in > your toolbox. It will come in handy for other temperature readings as > well, such as coolant temperature. > > Vic Whitmore > 76 Spits X2 > > > On 8/31/2011 8:47 PM, Roger Elliott wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Is there an easy way to check oil temperature in a Spitfire? >> Thanks, >> Roger Elliott >> 80 Spitfire >> __________ From vicwhit3 at rogers.com Tue Sep 13 20:49:14 2011 From: vicwhit3 at rogers.com (Vic Whitmore) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 22:49:14 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Spitfire Oil Temp In-Reply-To: <4E6FEF14.9050709@rmi.net> References: <4E5ED628.6060402@rmi.net> <4E5F918A.7010703@rogers.com> <4E6FEF14.9050709@rmi.net> Message-ID: <4E70162A.10100@rogers.com> Hi Roger, I doubt that the spot temp near the exhaust is a concern. The oil inside the pan will be much more consistent. Usually the heat shield is to prevent vapor lock in the carb. I have never heard of it protecting the oil pan. Vic Whitmore On 9/13/2011 8:02 PM, Roger Elliott wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > It took me a while to get this checked out. > > Several people suggested getting an infrared meter, which I did. Thanks for the > suggestion. > > Most places on the oil pan it was around 200 - 212 degrees. But around the > exhaust it was about 255 degrees. The oil pump pickup is right behind that area > of the oil pan. > > When I rebuilt the engine several years ago, the mechanic as I recall suggested > making a heat shield to go between the exhaust and the oil pan. I purchased some > materials to do that but never got it done. Now I am wondering if it is the > reason for my oil pressure being a bit low. > > Roger > > On 9/1/2011 9:07 AM, Vic Whitmore wrote: >> Get at handheld infrared meter at Harbor Freight (US) or Princess Auto >> (Canada). Just point it at the oil pan and take a reading. It will be a little >> cooler that the actual oil running through the engine but not by much. They >> are cheap enough now that you can easily justify one in your toolbox. It will >> come in handy for other temperature readings as well, such as coolant >> temperature. >> >> Vic Whitmore >> 76 Spits X2 >> >> >> On 8/31/2011 8:47 PM, Roger Elliott wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Is there an easy way to check oil temperature in a Spitfire? >>> Thanks, >>> Roger Elliott >>> 80 Spitfire >>> __________ > _______________________________________________ > > Spitfires at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/vicwhit3 at rogers.com From vicwhit3 at rogers.com Fri Sep 16 15:52:01 2011 From: vicwhit3 at rogers.com (Vic Whitmore) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 17:52:01 -0400 Subject: [Spits] British Car Day - Sunday September 18th, Toronto Message-ID: <4E73C501.1070902@rogers.com> The weekend weather for the Toronto area is pure sunshine. What a great weekend for an all-British car show! The Toronto Triumph Club welcomes you to join in North America's largest all-British car show...British Car Day. There are 52 classes of vehicles with awards for each, all decided by participant voting. This year's attendance is expected to exceed 1000 cars and over 8000 visitors. Over 60 British-related vendors offer their new and used goods for sale, including car parts, complete cars, t-shirts, hats, tools, books, supplies, and so on. Show your British car or motorcycle, view the entire field, visit the vendor area, enjoy the on-field food, and vote for cherished vehicles. The show opens at 10:00 AM at Bronte Creek Provincial Park. Voting runs until 1:00 PM and the awards presentation begins at 2:00 PM. All the details can be found at British Car Day or Toronto Triumph Club. www.britishcarday.com www.torontotriumph.com/bcd Bring some sunscreen and see you there! Vic Whitmore 76 Spitfire X2 Toronto Triumph Club From v6spitfireguy at cox.net Tue Sep 20 11:21:17 2011 From: v6spitfireguy at cox.net (v6spitfireguy at cox.net) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:21:17 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Stromberg CD175 diaphrams swap for CD150s Message-ID: <380-220119220172117980@M2W109.mail2web.com> I just finished a rebuild on my Stromberg CD150s and noticed that the rebuild kit has diaphragms for a CD175. If anybody bought the same kit but for their 175s and has the 150 diaphragms, how about a trade? Cant imagine that shipping would cost all that much, and I hate to see good parts go to waste- Im located in La Mesa, CA a suburb of San Diego - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com  What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint From parrotthead01 at comcast.net Thu Sep 22 11:08:43 2011 From: parrotthead01 at comcast.net (Daniel Parrott) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 13:08:43 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Wiring Message-ID: <088401cc794a$49290e70$db7b2b50$@comcast.net> I've assembled my Spit 6 Project's drive train assembly. Alas, my mechanic who has been guiding me as flown the coop. I'm ready to break the engine in before I add the body. I've added a Nipondenso alternator with three connectors, a high torque starter and an electric fuel pump. I have a question as to the best wiring for breaking in and testing the engine? I have a panel set up for a master electrical switch, my electric tach, the speedo and an ignition switch. I don't want to screw this up with a bad connection somewhere. Any advice? Dan Parrott Savannah, Georgia