From 030845 at charter.net Wed Jul 6 01:10:07 2011 From: 030845 at charter.net (Gary Tash) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 00:10:07 -0700 Subject: [Spits] Head stud and nuts References: <000501cc2949$7ff5fa40$7fe1eec0$@net> <4DF5FB03.3090602@bright.net> Message-ID: <003101cc3bab$bd7883a0$38698ae0$@net> Just to follow-up on the breaking studs: I used the known(?) good studs and new nuts, very carefully and in small increments tightened the nuts, in sequence of course. All came to torque. The engine runs well. Re-torqued after bringing to temp on several short runs. Plan to do so again at 300 to 500 miles. I have another problem, well one that is more critical than the others. Last night, after a short 17 mile drive, just as I was about to shut the engine down, the low beam headlights "flared" white bright and went out. Later that night driving home, I was forced to use the high beam. The dimmer switch does not hold the high beams on unless I hold it forward, which I did. Almost home the high beams went out. I did not notice a flare. Checking tonight, I find power at the harness connection where it splits to the R&L lamps, for both high and low beams. Lights burn out. But, both simultaneously? And later the other beam, both simultaneously? I can replace the lamps but it seems like there is something going on besides old lamps? Gary > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Tash [mailto:030845 at charter.net] > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:05 PM > To: 'Ted Schumacher' > Subject: RE: [Spits] Head stud and nuts > > Well, I hope not to need any for a while now. But I'm certainly going to > consider a more known quantity, like ARP, next time. And, I had good > results with other bits you've provided me. > gary > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ted Schumacher [mailto:tedtsimx at bright.net] > > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 4:57 AM > > To: Gary Tash > > Subject: Re: [Spits] Head stud and nuts > > > > Gary, saw your message on head studs. We supply ARP studs. They work. > > Please let me know if we can help. Ted > > > > > > On 6/12/2011 5:41 PM, Gary Tash wrote: > > > (Excuse me if this is a duplicate, my e-mail was malfunctioning and > I am > > > resending). > > > > > > > > > > > > I've been away from the list for a long time. Just getting the Spit > > back on > > > the road and ran into a problem not encountered before. > > > > > > I was refitting the head after valve renewal, using new studs > purchased > > from > > > a reputable supplier. 3 head nuts would not come to torque, one of > the > > > studs broke w/ot reaching torque. And it appears one of the other 2 > > studs > > > (at least) started to strip in the head. > > > > > > > > > > > > I checked the torque with two different wrenches, both of which I > use > > > regularly, so I'm pretty certain it was not over-torque. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a combination of events that has left me confused. Some > > questions > > > have arisen from this novel experience (I've done this operation > many > > times > > > for this and other engines with no problems ever.). > > > > > > 1. From my present confused state of mind, I'm wondering > which > > end of > > > the stud goes in the block, long or short threads. Been doing it > the > > same > > > way forever, but . . . > > > > > > 2. I have been told that the proper head nuts are a grade 5, > > assuming > > > the studs are a grade 8. This is contrary to fastener industry > doctrine > > > which - as I read it - says that a nut should be at least as strong > as > > the > > > bolt/stud. i.e. a grade five could be fit to a grade five or lower. > > > Because the studs are reported to be grade 8, I purchased grade 8 > nuts > > for > > > the next attempt. > > > > > > > > > > > > My plan is to proceed with reassembly again. I have checked the > block > > > threads as well I can visually and by running a tap gently in each > hole > > with > > > light lubrication and have blown the debris from the holes. The > threads > > > appear ok. > > > > > > > > > > > > Any insight would be appreciated. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Spitfires at autox.team.net > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/tedtsimx at bright.net > > > > > > > > > -- > > Ted Schumacher > > tedtsimx at bright.net > > http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com > > 108 S. Jefferson St. > > Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 > > Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) > > Phone: 800.543.6648 (US& Canada) > > Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 From hdrider570 at att.net Wed Jul 6 14:44:21 2011 From: hdrider570 at att.net (Q) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 13:44:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] High beam failure Message-ID: <1309985061.61901.YahooMailClassic@web83805.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Burning out light bulbs can point to an alternator or regulator failure. Basically the system voltage is too high. Edward Hamer Petaluma, CA From 030845 at charter.net Wed Jul 6 17:01:00 2011 From: 030845 at charter.net (030845 at charter.net) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 23:01:00 +0000 Subject: [Spits] High beam failure In-Reply-To: <1309985061.61901.YahooMailClassic@web83805.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <1309985061.61901.YahooMailClassic@web83805.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1087106135-1309993172-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-168593403-@b12.c15.bise6.blackberry> Yeh. That occurred to. Belatedly. Been having problems that way I have been ignoring. You guys reminded me. Thanks. -gary -----Original Message----- From: Q Sender: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 13:44:21 To: Subject: [Spits] High beam failure Burning out light bulbs can point to an alternator or regulator failure. Basically the system voltage is too high. Edward Hamer Petaluma, CA _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/030845 at charter.net From 030845 at charter.net Fri Jul 8 10:16:22 2011 From: 030845 at charter.net (Gary Tash) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 09:16:22 -0700 Subject: [Spits] High Beam Failure Message-ID: <000001cc3d8a$612a3900$237eab00$@net> I had the alternator/regulator tested and the guy says its within limits. However, I understand that the Lucas is prone to intermittent overcharging. And I was having a problem with the battery boiling on longer runs, although that seems to have subsided. I'm thinking about replacing the alternator. The auto electric guys says there is a new version that is more stable, for the price of only one arm. On the other hand, some have suggested swapping in a GM/Delco. But right now I'm thinking about a new one from Spitbits (think I'll forgo a rebuilt this time). I don't know if the Spitbits offering is an updated version or not. Decisions . . . But soon, have long road trip the end of them month. -gary >Subject: [Spits] High beam failure > >Burning out light bulbs can point to an alternator or regulator failure. Basically the system voltage is too high. > >Edward Hamer >Petaluma, CA From nmoseley at telus.net Sat Jul 9 11:17:57 2011 From: nmoseley at telus.net (Nick Moseley) Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 10:17:57 -0700 Subject: [Spits] High Beam Failure In-Reply-To: <000001cc3d8a$612a3900$237eab00$@net> References: <000001cc3d8a$612a3900$237eab00$@net> Message-ID: <007b01cc3e5c$258af9c0$70a0ed40$@net> Gary, something to check that will cost only time, is the grounding in the area. Clean up the ground connection to the bolt on the steering box, and the Lucas connectors for the grounds to the lights. If the ground connection is really bad, I've been told the lights can try to ground through another active circuit on the way to a better ground. Although, if the battery is boiling, that points strongly to the alternator controls, and would be worth resolving before you need both an alternator as well as a new battery. Nick Moseley __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6279 (20110709) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com From doug at dougbraun.com Sat Jul 9 14:00:11 2011 From: doug at dougbraun.com (Douglas Braun) Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 16:00:11 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Windshield washer pump/switch Message-ID: Hello, The windshield washer pump (built into the wiper switch) in my MK IV has finally crapped out. It worked perfectly since 1972, and today it started dribbling water onto the floor. The usual vendors seem to sell a rather expensive replacement that does not match the original very well. Does anybody know if the originals are repairable? I am not too optimistic, since it looks like a welded-together plastic assembly that cannot be opened... Thanks, Doug Braun '72 Spit From fishplate at charter.net Sat Jul 9 19:49:05 2011 From: fishplate at charter.net (Jeff) Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 21:49:05 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Windshield washer pump/switch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E190511.6030202@charter.net> On 7/9/2011 4:00 PM, Douglas Braun wrote: > The windshield washer pump (built into the wiper switch) in my MK IV > has finally crapped out. ...Does anybody know if the originals are repairable? I am > not too optimistic, since it looks like a welded-together plastic > assembly that cannot be opened... You have two options, as I see it... 1. Nothing is put together that can't be taken apart. I don't know what you'll find after it's apart, though. 2. If #1 fails, you can get an electric pump almost anywhere, and mount a pushbutton just under the dash to operate it. Jeff Scarbrough Corrosion Acres, Ga. From bill at gingerich.us Sat Jul 9 21:28:11 2011 From: bill at gingerich.us (Bill Gingerich) Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 22:28:11 -0500 Subject: [Spits] High Beam Failure In-Reply-To: <000001cc3d8a$612a3900$237eab00$@net> References: <000001cc3d8a$612a3900$237eab00$@net> Message-ID: <018f01cc3eb1$65d6ef20$3184cd60$@us> Another option is the Bosch unit (or similar) out of a 1978-1980 Ford Fiesta. A friend did it several years ago, and it was a bolt in replacement. All the mounting and wiring plug were correct. Rock auto has a compatible remanufactured unit for about $50. BillG Hastings, MN -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary Tash Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:16 AM To: spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: [Spits] High Beam Failure I had the alternator/regulator tested and the guy says its within limits. However, I understand that the Lucas is prone to intermittent overcharging. And I was having a problem with the battery boiling on longer runs, although that seems to have subsided. I'm thinking about replacing the alternator. The auto electric guys says there is a new version that is more stable, for the price of only one arm. On the other hand, some have suggested swapping in a GM/Delco. But right now I'm thinking about a new one from Spitbits (think I'll forgo a rebuilt this time). I don't know if the Spitbits offering is an updated version or not. Decisions . . . But soon, have long road trip the end of them month. -gary >Subject: [Spits] High beam failure > >Burning out light bulbs can point to an alternator or regulator failure. Basically the system voltage is too high. > >Edward Hamer >Petaluma, CA _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/bill at gingerich.us From 030845 at charter.net Sat Jul 9 23:07:57 2011 From: 030845 at charter.net (Gary) Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 22:07:57 -0700 Subject: [Spits] High Beam Failure In-Reply-To: <018f01cc3eb1$65d6ef20$3184cd60$@us> Message-ID: <000401cc3ebf$5c5e2090$6401a8c0@GWT1> You mean like, plug and play, without playing with swapping plugs etc.? The autoparts guy said the Delco could be a one wire installation, ignoring the stock wiring all together. B+ wire only. But I don't think he's fully aware of LBC issues. I'll check out the Bosch unit. Gary WA -----Original Message----- From: Bill Gingerich [mailto:bill at gingerich.us] Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:28 PM To: 'Gary Tash'; spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Spits] High Beam Failure Another option is the Bosch unit (or similar) out of a 1978-1980 Ford Fiesta. A friend did it several years ago, and it was a bolt in replacement. All the mounting and wiring plug were correct. Rock auto has a compatible remanufactured unit for about $50. BillG Hastings, MN -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary Tash Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:16 AM To: spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: [Spits] High Beam Failure I had the alternator/regulator tested and the guy says its within limits. However, I understand that the Lucas is prone to intermittent overcharging. And I was having a problem with the battery boiling on longer runs, although that seems to have subsided. I'm thinking about replacing the alternator. The auto electric guys says there is a new version that is more stable, for the price of only one arm. On the other hand, some have suggested swapping in a GM/Delco. But right now I'm thinking about a new one from Spitbits (think I'll forgo a rebuilt this time). I don't know if the Spitbits offering is an updated version or not. Decisions . . . But soon, have long road trip the end of them month. -gary >Subject: [Spits] High beam failure > >Burning out light bulbs can point to an alternator or regulator failure. Basically the system voltage is too high. > >Edward Hamer >Petaluma, CA _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/bill at gingerich.us From spitlist at cox.net Sat Jul 9 23:17:51 2011 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 22:17:51 -0700 Subject: [Spits] High Beam Failure In-Reply-To: <018f01cc3eb1$65d6ef20$3184cd60$@us> References: <000001cc3d8a$612a3900$237eab00$@net> <018f01cc3eb1$65d6ef20$3184cd60$@us> Message-ID: <85AB337FB4BD4E6A963E553100C3DB07@Vista> Second the Fiesta Bosch suggestion. I have one on Huxley and it is fantastic. Joe -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Gingerich Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:28 PM To: 'Gary Tash'; spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spits] High Beam Failure Another option is the Bosch unit (or similar) out of a 1978-1980 Ford Fiesta. A friend did it several years ago, and it was a bolt in replacement. All the mounting and wiring plug were correct. Rock auto has a compatible remanufactured unit for about $50. BillG Hastings, MN -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary Tash Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:16 AM To: spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: [Spits] High Beam Failure I had the alternator/regulator tested and the guy says its within limits. However, I understand that the Lucas is prone to intermittent overcharging. And I was having a problem with the battery boiling on longer runs, although that seems to have subsided. I'm thinking about replacing the alternator. The auto electric guys says there is a new version that is more stable, for the price of only one arm. On the other hand, some have suggested swapping in a GM/Delco. But right now I'm thinking about a new one from Spitbits (think I'll forgo a rebuilt this time). I don't know if the Spitbits offering is an updated version or not. Decisions . . . But soon, have long road trip the end of them month. -gary >Subject: [Spits] High beam failure > >Burning out light bulbs can point to an alternator or regulator failure. Basically the system voltage is too high. > >Edward Hamer >Petaluma, CA _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/bill at gingerich.us _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/spitlist at cox.net From 030845 at charter.net Sat Jul 9 23:30:42 2011 From: 030845 at charter.net (Gary) Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 22:30:42 -0700 Subject: [Spits] Windshield washer pump/switch In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000501cc3ec2$89ff9df0$6401a8c0@GWT1> I have a note in my journal that the washer pump on my 78 1500 was going out. Don't have a mention of repairing it but I think I did and it's working now. I agree about attempting repair, if it's not working anyway. Spitbits lists one for the 1500 at $9.99. -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Douglas Braun Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 1:00 PM To: Spitfire Group Subject: [Spits] Windshield washer pump/switch Hello, The windshield washer pump (built into the wiper switch) in my MK IV has finally crapped out. It worked perfectly since 1972, and today it started dribbling water onto the floor. The usual vendors seem to sell a rather expensive replacement that does not match the original very well. Does anybody know if the originals are repairable? I am not too optimistic, since it looks like a welded-together plastic assembly that cannot be opened... Thanks, Doug Braun '72 Spit _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/030845 at charter.net From spitlist at cox.net Sun Jul 10 00:55:04 2011 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 23:55:04 -0700 Subject: [Spits] High Beam Failure In-Reply-To: <000401cc3ebf$5c5e2090$6401a8c0@GWT1> References: <018f01cc3eb1$65d6ef20$3184cd60$@us> <000401cc3ebf$5c5e2090$6401a8c0@GWT1> Message-ID: Not only does this particular Bosch unit use the same plug as the Lucas made for Later Spits, but the mechanical mount and adjustment for the Lucas unit work. It is literally, "Plug and Play" Joe -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 10:08 PM To: 'Bill Gingerich'; spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spits] High Beam Failure You mean like, plug and play, without playing with swapping plugs etc.? The autoparts guy said the Delco could be a one wire installation, ignoring the stock wiring all together. B+ wire only. But I don't think he's fully aware of LBC issues. I'll check out the Bosch unit. Gary WA -----Original Message----- From: Bill Gingerich [mailto:bill at gingerich.us] Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:28 PM To: 'Gary Tash'; spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Spits] High Beam Failure Another option is the Bosch unit (or similar) out of a 1978-1980 Ford Fiesta. A friend did it several years ago, and it was a bolt in replacement. All the mounting and wiring plug were correct. Rock auto has a compatible remanufactured unit for about $50. BillG Hastings, MN -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary Tash Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:16 AM To: spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: [Spits] High Beam Failure I had the alternator/regulator tested and the guy says its within limits. However, I understand that the Lucas is prone to intermittent overcharging. And I was having a problem with the battery boiling on longer runs, although that seems to have subsided. I'm thinking about replacing the alternator. The auto electric guys says there is a new version that is more stable, for the price of only one arm. On the other hand, some have suggested swapping in a GM/Delco. But right now I'm thinking about a new one from Spitbits (think I'll forgo a rebuilt this time). I don't know if the Spitbits offering is an updated version or not. Decisions . . . But soon, have long road trip the end of them month. -gary >Subject: [Spits] High beam failure > >Burning out light bulbs can point to an alternator or regulator failure. Basically the system voltage is too high. > >Edward Hamer >Petaluma, CA _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/bill at gingerich.us _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/spitlist at cox.net From jimmuller at rcn.com Sun Jul 10 06:49:44 2011 From: jimmuller at rcn.com (Jim Muller) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 08:49:44 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Windshield washer pump/switch In-Reply-To: <4E190511.6030202@charter.net> References: Message-ID: <4E1967A8.3774.55F25A99@localhost> On 9 Jul 2011 at 21:49, Jeff wrote: > 1. Nothing is put together that can't be taken apart. I don't know > what you'll find after it's apart, though. Interesting concept. There are plenty of things that can be taken apart and not put back together! Humpty-Dumpty comes to mind. Maybe ww pumps fall into that category. Put back together perhaps and no more functional than when you started. -- Jim Muller jimmuller at rcn.com '80 Spitfire, '70 GT6+ From 030845 at charter.net Mon Jul 11 14:08:30 2011 From: 030845 at charter.net (Gary) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:08:30 -0700 Subject: [Spits] High Beam Failure In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000401cc4006$4e1f5740$6401a8c0@GWT1> While checking out the Bosch unit I found Bosch lists (also found it at the NAPA site) an alternator for the 78 Spit. The Fiesta unit is shown as a 55 amp, the Spitfire 34 amp. Given the choice, I think I'd opt for the Spit unit. Is there any advantage to 55 vs 34 amp? -Gary -----Original Message----- From: Joe Curry [mailto:spitlist at cox.net] Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 11:55 PM To: 'Gary'; 'Bill Gingerich'; spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Spits] High Beam Failure Not only does this particular Bosch unit use the same plug as the Lucas made for Later Spits, but the mechanical mount and adjustment for the Lucas unit work. It is literally, "Plug and Play" Joe -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 10:08 PM To: 'Bill Gingerich'; spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spits] High Beam Failure You mean like, plug and play, without playing with swapping plugs etc.? The autoparts guy said the Delco could be a one wire installation, ignoring the stock wiring all together. B+ wire only. But I don't think he's fully aware of LBC issues. I'll check out the Bosch unit. Gary WA -----Original Message----- From: Bill Gingerich [mailto:bill at gingerich.us] Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:28 PM To: 'Gary Tash'; spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Spits] High Beam Failure Another option is the Bosch unit (or similar) out of a 1978-1980 Ford Fiesta. A friend did it several years ago, and it was a bolt in replacement. All the mounting and wiring plug were correct. Rock auto has a compatible remanufactured unit for about $50. BillG Hastings, MN -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary Tash Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:16 AM To: spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: [Spits] High Beam Failure I had the alternator/regulator tested and the guy says its within limits. However, I understand that the Lucas is prone to intermittent overcharging. And I was having a problem with the battery boiling on longer runs, although that seems to have subsided. I'm thinking about replacing the alternator. The auto electric guys says there is a new version that is more stable, for the price of only one arm. On the other hand, some have suggested swapping in a GM/Delco. But right now I'm thinking about a new one from Spitbits (think I'll forgo a rebuilt this time). I don't know if the Spitbits offering is an updated version or not. Decisions . . . But soon, have long road trip the end of them month. -gary >Subject: [Spits] High beam failure > >Burning out light bulbs can point to an alternator or regulator failure. Basically the system voltage is too high. > >Edward Hamer >Petaluma, CA _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/bill at gingerich.us _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/spitlist at cox.net From spitlist at cox.net Mon Jul 11 14:29:56 2011 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:29:56 -0700 Subject: [Spits] High Beam Failure In-Reply-To: <000401cc4006$4e1f5740$6401a8c0@GWT1> References: <000401cc4006$4e1f5740$6401a8c0@GWT1> Message-ID: Well, if you have electronic ignition, Electronic Fuel injection, Halogen Headlamps, Modern stereo and accessory plugs for stuff like GPS and Radar Detectors, I'd say there is definitely an advantage. But if you have the car equipped like it came from the factory, the 34 amps which is twice what the wimpy Lucas yields is probably OK. Joe -----Original Message----- From: Gary [mailto:030845 at charter.net] Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 1:09 PM To: 'Joe Curry'; spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Spits] High Beam Failure While checking out the Bosch unit I found Bosch lists (also found it at the NAPA site) an alternator for the 78 Spit. The Fiesta unit is shown as a 55 amp, the Spitfire 34 amp. Given the choice, I think I'd opt for the Spit unit. Is there any advantage to 55 vs 34 amp? -Gary -----Original Message----- From: Joe Curry [mailto:spitlist at cox.net] Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 11:55 PM To: 'Gary'; 'Bill Gingerich'; spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Spits] High Beam Failure Not only does this particular Bosch unit use the same plug as the Lucas made for Later Spits, but the mechanical mount and adjustment for the Lucas unit work. It is literally, "Plug and Play" Joe -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 10:08 PM To: 'Bill Gingerich'; spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spits] High Beam Failure You mean like, plug and play, without playing with swapping plugs etc.? The autoparts guy said the Delco could be a one wire installation, ignoring the stock wiring all together. B+ wire only. But I don't think he's fully aware of LBC issues. I'll check out the Bosch unit. Gary WA -----Original Message----- From: Bill Gingerich [mailto:bill at gingerich.us] Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:28 PM To: 'Gary Tash'; spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Spits] High Beam Failure Another option is the Bosch unit (or similar) out of a 1978-1980 Ford Fiesta. A friend did it several years ago, and it was a bolt in replacement. All the mounting and wiring plug were correct. Rock auto has a compatible remanufactured unit for about $50. BillG Hastings, MN -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary Tash Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:16 AM To: spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: [Spits] High Beam Failure I had the alternator/regulator tested and the guy says its within limits. However, I understand that the Lucas is prone to intermittent overcharging. And I was having a problem with the battery boiling on longer runs, although that seems to have subsided. I'm thinking about replacing the alternator. The auto electric guys says there is a new version that is more stable, for the price of only one arm. On the other hand, some have suggested swapping in a GM/Delco. But right now I'm thinking about a new one from Spitbits (think I'll forgo a rebuilt this time). I don't know if the Spitbits offering is an updated version or not. Decisions . . . But soon, have long road trip the end of them month. -gary >Subject: [Spits] High beam failure > >Burning out light bulbs can point to an alternator or regulator failure. Basically the system voltage is too high. > >Edward Hamer >Petaluma, CA _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/bill at gingerich.us _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/spitlist at cox.net From parrotthead01 at comcast.net Mon Jul 11 15:02:01 2011 From: parrotthead01 at comcast.net (Daniel Parrott) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:02:01 -0400 Subject: [Spits] High Beam Failure In-Reply-To: <000401cc4006$4e1f5740$6401a8c0@GWT1> References: <000401cc4006$4e1f5740$6401a8c0@GWT1> Message-ID: <000c01cc400d$c8bc06e0$5a3414a0$@net> About 10 years ago, I replaced my Lucas Spit Alternator with an exchange from Pep Boys. Later, as I was driving home (with the radio and headlamps on), I hit the turn signal to turn left onto the Truman Parkway. My Spit immediately died. I upgraded to a single wire GM model. No problems since. Dan Parrott Savannah, Ga 1980 Triumph Spitfire "PJ" 1972/1978 Spit Six Project car "Joseph" 1957 Chevy Bel Air "Mayflower" -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 4:09 PM To: 'Joe Curry'; spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spits] High Beam Failure While checking out the Bosch unit I found Bosch lists (also found it at the NAPA site) an alternator for the 78 Spit. The Fiesta unit is shown as a 55 amp, the Spitfire 34 amp. Given the choice, I think I'd opt for the Spit unit. Is there any advantage to 55 vs 34 amp? -Gary -----Original Message----- From: Joe Curry [mailto:spitlist at cox.net] Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 11:55 PM To: 'Gary'; 'Bill Gingerich'; spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Spits] High Beam Failure Not only does this particular Bosch unit use the same plug as the Lucas made for Later Spits, but the mechanical mount and adjustment for the Lucas unit work. It is literally, "Plug and Play" Joe -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 10:08 PM To: 'Bill Gingerich'; spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spits] High Beam Failure You mean like, plug and play, without playing with swapping plugs etc.? The autoparts guy said the Delco could be a one wire installation, ignoring the stock wiring all together. B+ wire only. But I don't think he's fully aware of LBC issues. I'll check out the Bosch unit. Gary WA -----Original Message----- From: Bill Gingerich [mailto:bill at gingerich.us] Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:28 PM To: 'Gary Tash'; spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Spits] High Beam Failure Another option is the Bosch unit (or similar) out of a 1978-1980 Ford Fiesta. A friend did it several years ago, and it was a bolt in replacement. All the mounting and wiring plug were correct. Rock auto has a compatible remanufactured unit for about $50. BillG Hastings, MN -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary Tash Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:16 AM To: spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: [Spits] High Beam Failure I had the alternator/regulator tested and the guy says its within limits. However, I understand that the Lucas is prone to intermittent overcharging. And I was having a problem with the battery boiling on longer runs, although that seems to have subsided. I'm thinking about replacing the alternator. The auto electric guys says there is a new version that is more stable, for the price of only one arm. On the other hand, some have suggested swapping in a GM/Delco. But right now I'm thinking about a new one from Spitbits (think I'll forgo a rebuilt this time). I don't know if the Spitbits offering is an updated version or not. Decisions . . . But soon, have long road trip the end of them month. -gary >Subject: [Spits] High beam failure > >Burning out light bulbs can point to an alternator or regulator failure. Basically the system voltage is too high. > >Edward Hamer >Petaluma, CA _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/bill at gingerich.us _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/spitlist at cox.net _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/parrotthead01 at comcast.net From ambrose95 at comcast.net Mon Jul 11 16:45:55 2011 From: ambrose95 at comcast.net (Tom Ambrose) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:45:55 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Spitfire and extra parts fs Message-ID: <4E1B7D23.3090902@comcast.net> Anybody in Mid-Michigan (Grand Blanc) interested in a 1972 Spit? Almost new rebuilt engine from Hart's in Ohio, 1 1/2" SUs. Stainless steel brake lines. Wire wheels and hard top. Extra engine, trannys, and carbs (including single Weber, 2 pair of 1 1/4 SUs and lots of spare parts. <$2K Tom From spitlist at cox.net Mon Jul 11 18:14:50 2011 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:14:50 -0700 Subject: [Spits] High Beam Failure In-Reply-To: <000c01cc400d$c8bc06e0$5a3414a0$@net> References: <000401cc4006$4e1f5740$6401a8c0@GWT1> <000c01cc400d$c8bc06e0$5a3414a0$@net> Message-ID: <0267F8694C394CA889C73C5F4A1DB4D5@Vista> Yeah, but with the size and weight of that GM unit, it robs you of performance and looks odd to boot, not to mention the fact that there is a bunch of finagling to get it to fit. Not so with the Bosch unit. Joe -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Parrott [mailto:parrotthead01 at comcast.net] Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 2:02 PM To: 'Gary'; 'Joe Curry'; spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Spits] High Beam Failure About 10 years ago, I replaced my Lucas Spit Alternator with an exchange from Pep Boys. Later, as I was driving home (with the radio and headlamps on), I hit the turn signal to turn left onto the Truman Parkway. My Spit immediately died. I upgraded to a single wire GM model. No problems since. Dan Parrott Savannah, Ga 1980 Triumph Spitfire "PJ" 1972/1978 Spit Six Project car "Joseph" 1957 Chevy Bel Air "Mayflower" -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 4:09 PM To: 'Joe Curry'; spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spits] High Beam Failure While checking out the Bosch unit I found Bosch lists (also found it at the NAPA site) an alternator for the 78 Spit. The Fiesta unit is shown as a 55 amp, the Spitfire 34 amp. Given the choice, I think I'd opt for the Spit unit. Is there any advantage to 55 vs 34 amp? -Gary -----Original Message----- From: Joe Curry [mailto:spitlist at cox.net] Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 11:55 PM To: 'Gary'; 'Bill Gingerich'; spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Spits] High Beam Failure Not only does this particular Bosch unit use the same plug as the Lucas made for Later Spits, but the mechanical mount and adjustment for the Lucas unit work. It is literally, "Plug and Play" Joe -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 10:08 PM To: 'Bill Gingerich'; spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spits] High Beam Failure You mean like, plug and play, without playing with swapping plugs etc.? The autoparts guy said the Delco could be a one wire installation, ignoring the stock wiring all together. B+ wire only. But I don't think he's fully aware of LBC issues. I'll check out the Bosch unit. Gary WA -----Original Message----- From: Bill Gingerich [mailto:bill at gingerich.us] Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:28 PM To: 'Gary Tash'; spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Spits] High Beam Failure Another option is the Bosch unit (or similar) out of a 1978-1980 Ford Fiesta. A friend did it several years ago, and it was a bolt in replacement. All the mounting and wiring plug were correct. Rock auto has a compatible remanufactured unit for about $50. BillG Hastings, MN -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary Tash Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:16 AM To: spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: [Spits] High Beam Failure I had the alternator/regulator tested and the guy says its within limits. However, I understand that the Lucas is prone to intermittent overcharging. And I was having a problem with the battery boiling on longer runs, although that seems to have subsided. I'm thinking about replacing the alternator. The auto electric guys says there is a new version that is more stable, for the price of only one arm. On the other hand, some have suggested swapping in a GM/Delco. But right now I'm thinking about a new one from Spitbits (think I'll forgo a rebuilt this time). I don't know if the Spitbits offering is an updated version or not. Decisions . . . But soon, have long road trip the end of them month. -gary >Subject: [Spits] High beam failure > >Burning out light bulbs can point to an alternator or regulator failure. Basically the system voltage is too high. > >Edward Hamer >Petaluma, CA _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/bill at gingerich.us _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/spitlist at cox.net _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/parrotthead01 at comcast.net From 030845 at charter.net Mon Jul 11 21:14:21 2011 From: 030845 at charter.net (Gary) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:14:21 -0700 Subject: [Spits] High Beam Failure In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000701cc4041$cc1175d0$6401a8c0@GWT1> Yeah. The only additional draw I've added (not counting a run of the mill radio/cd unit) is an electric fuel pump. One add'l piece of information is that the Bosch offering for the Spit is a remanufactured Lucas. Difference in cost is about -$40 from the Fiesta model, also a reman. I'd like to think Bosch would have improved the product. Would someone happen to have a Bosch # for Fiesta unit? Want to be sure the local parts guy is getting the right stuff. -Gary -----Original Message----- From: Joe Curry [mailto:spitlist at cox.net] Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 1:30 PM To: 'Gary'; spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Spits] High Beam Failure Well, if you have electronic ignition, Electronic Fuel injection, Halogen Headlamps, Modern stereo and accessory plugs for stuff like GPS and Radar Detectors, I'd say there is definitely an advantage. But if you have the car equipped like it came from the factory, the 34 amps which is twice what the wimpy Lucas yields is probably OK. Joe -----Original Message----- From: Gary [mailto:030845 at charter.net] Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 1:09 PM To: 'Joe Curry'; spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Spits] High Beam Failure While checking out the Bosch unit I found Bosch lists (also found it at the NAPA site) an alternator for the 78 Spit. The Fiesta unit is shown as a 55 amp, the Spitfire 34 amp. Given the choice, I think I'd opt for the Spit unit. Is there any advantage to 55 vs 34 amp? -Gary -----Original Message----- From: Joe Curry [mailto:spitlist at cox.net] Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 11:55 PM To: 'Gary'; 'Bill Gingerich'; spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Spits] High Beam Failure Not only does this particular Bosch unit use the same plug as the Lucas made for Later Spits, but the mechanical mount and adjustment for the Lucas unit work. It is literally, "Plug and Play" Joe -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 10:08 PM To: 'Bill Gingerich'; spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spits] High Beam Failure You mean like, plug and play, without playing with swapping plugs etc.? The autoparts guy said the Delco could be a one wire installation, ignoring the stock wiring all together. B+ wire only. But I don't think he's fully aware of LBC issues. I'll check out the Bosch unit. Gary WA -----Original Message----- From: Bill Gingerich [mailto:bill at gingerich.us] Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:28 PM To: 'Gary Tash'; spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Spits] High Beam Failure Another option is the Bosch unit (or similar) out of a 1978-1980 Ford Fiesta. A friend did it several years ago, and it was a bolt in replacement. All the mounting and wiring plug were correct. Rock auto has a compatible remanufactured unit for about $50. BillG Hastings, MN -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary Tash Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:16 AM To: spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: [Spits] High Beam Failure I had the alternator/regulator tested and the guy says its within limits. However, I understand that the Lucas is prone to intermittent overcharging. And I was having a problem with the battery boiling on longer runs, although that seems to have subsided. I'm thinking about replacing the alternator. The auto electric guys says there is a new version that is more stable, for the price of only one arm. On the other hand, some have suggested swapping in a GM/Delco. But right now I'm thinking about a new one from Spitbits (think I'll forgo a rebuilt this time). I don't know if the Spitbits offering is an updated version or not. Decisions . . . But soon, have long road trip the end of them month. -gary >Subject: [Spits] High beam failure > >Burning out light bulbs can point to an alternator or regulator failure. Basically the system voltage is too high. > >Edward Hamer >Petaluma, CA _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/bill at gingerich.us _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/spitlist at cox.net From s1500 at comcast.net Sat Jul 16 11:11:32 2011 From: s1500 at comcast.net (Ryan) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 12:11:32 -0500 Subject: [Spits] Fuel tank not breathing "out" Message-ID: <4E21C644.5090405@comcast.net> So a few weeks ago, I was filling up the gas tank manually(ie not at a gas pump). With a funnel in, I was going slowly & taking a pause every quart or so. Every 3-4 minutes it "gushed back up" like a geyser. I'm starting to think this is also why I was having idling & sputtering problems when I was trying to drive on a super-hot & humid weekend about a week ago. So how can one check to see if the fuel tank is breathing "out" properly, ie air going in when fuel is going out? This fuel tank is new, but not sure about if the vapor collection canister is doing its job. This is a '79 with the 2 carbon canisters. From s1500 at comcast.net Sat Jul 16 11:11:32 2011 From: s1500 at comcast.net (Ryan) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 12:11:32 -0500 Subject: [Spits] Fuel tank not breathing "out" Message-ID: <4E21C644.5090405@comcast.net> So a few weeks ago, I was filling up the gas tank manually(ie not at a gas pump). With a funnel in, I was going slowly & taking a pause every quart or so. Every 3-4 minutes it "gushed back up" like a geyser. I'm starting to think this is also why I was having idling & sputtering problems when I was trying to drive on a super-hot & humid weekend about a week ago. So how can one check to see if the fuel tank is breathing "out" properly, ie air going in when fuel is going out? This fuel tank is new, but not sure about if the vapor collection canister is doing its job. This is a '79 with the 2 carbon canisters. From cwnfot at gmail.com Sun Jul 17 07:58:06 2011 From: cwnfot at gmail.com (Clark W. Nicholls) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 09:58:06 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Fuel tank not breathing "out" In-Reply-To: <4E21C644.5090405@comcast.net> References: <4E21C644.5090405@comcast.net> Message-ID: <023601cc4489$8ee82a90$acb87fb0$@com> This indicates that 1) the funnel end is submerged below the level of fuel in the tank. 2) the funnel is sealing the tank and not allowing air to escape around it. This causes the fuel to blow back when pressure builds. 3) the venting tube(s) to the canister are not open to bleed the pressure. 3) may be normal if there is a solenoid to shut off the venting with engine off. The canisters probably vent to the carburetor. You can check the vent tube by removing the outputs from the canisters and blowing thru from the tank end. Then if all's clear, check the outputs. Just food for thought... Clark Clark W. Nicholls 1972 Stag (LE7931E), 1974 Spitfire (FM14571U) and 1 rusty GT6 needing new owner "Reality, it's not what you think." From 030845 at charter.net Sun Jul 17 11:15:09 2011 From: 030845 at charter.net (030845 at charter.net) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 17:15:09 +0000 Subject: [Spits] Fuel tank not breathing "out" Message-ID: <469518579-1310922785-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-434047078-@b12.c15.bise6.blackberry> I have a 78 1500. Discovered my tank was not venting when it developed contraction expansion metal fatigue pin hole leaks. Long story short: problem was incorrectly installed vapor canister and line. Line was full gasoline. ------Original Message------ From: Ryan Sender: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net To: Spitlist Subject: [Spits] Fuel tank not breathing "out" Sent: Jul 16, 2011 10:11 AM So a few weeks ago, I was filling up the gas tank manually(ie not at a gas pump). With a funnel in, I was going slowly & taking a pause every quart or so. Every 3-4 minutes it "gushed back up" like a geyser. I'm starting to think this is also why I was having idling & sputtering problems when I was trying to drive on a super-hot & humid weekend about a week ago. So how can one check to see if the fuel tank is breathing "out" properly, ie air going in when fuel is going out? This fuel tank is new, but not sure about if the vapor collection canister is doing its job. This is a '79 with the 2 carbon canisters. _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/030845 at charter.net From jimmuller at rcn.com Sun Jul 17 15:47:20 2011 From: jimmuller at rcn.com (Jim Muller) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 17:47:20 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Got the GT6 running! Message-ID: <4E232028.4570.E47589D@localhost> Today was an even better day. I got the GT6 fully assembled. It fired up without too much trouble and I drove it aroudn the neighbohood successfully. Even used 3 of the 4 gears. They all worked. The clutch behaved and sounded normal. This was all due to a squealing bearing between the input and mainshafts, also producing a whine on overrun. I had a local machine shop put a hardened sleeve on the tip of the mainshaft, then installed new bearings of course. I took the opportuntity to have a pin put into the brass TO bearing holder to eliminate the noise where it had gotten so worn. It's only been a year or so... Yay!!! -- Jim Muller jimmuller at rcn.com '80 Spitfire, '70 GT6+ From 030845 at charter.net Sun Jul 17 20:08:58 2011 From: 030845 at charter.net (030845 at charter.net) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 02:08:58 +0000 Subject: [Spits] Got the GT6 running! Message-ID: <1519912842-1310954814-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2070992859-@b12.c15.bise6.blackberry> Only a year. In my world that's practically overnight. ------Original Message------ From: Jim Muller Sender: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net To: Triumphs at autox.team.net To: Spitlist ReplyTo: jimmuller at rcn.com Subject: [Spits] Got the GT6 running! Sent: Jul 17, 2011 2:47 PM Today was an even better day. I got the GT6 fully assembled. It fired up without too much trouble and I drove it aroudn the neighbohood successfully. Even used 3 of the 4 gears. They all worked. The clutch behaved and sounded normal. This was all due to a squealing bearing between the input and mainshafts, also producing a whine on overrun. I had a local machine shop put a hardened sleeve on the tip of the mainshaft, then installed new bearings of course. I took the opportuntity to have a pin put into the brass TO bearing holder to eliminate the noise where it had gotten so worn. It's only been a year or so... Yay!!! -- Jim Muller jimmuller at rcn.com '80 Spitfire, '70 GT6+ _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/030845 at charter.net From parrotthead01 at comcast.net Mon Jul 18 15:15:20 2011 From: parrotthead01 at comcast.net (Daniel Parrott) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 17:15:20 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Weird attachments In-Reply-To: <02F907F48CB7466F984FB1D6F064A12D@Vista> References: <02F907F48CB7466F984FB1D6F064A12D@Vista> Message-ID: <00c401cc458f$cdff9220$69feb660$@net> I've started receiving two or three a week. Dan Parrott Savannah, Ga 1980 Triumph Spitfire "PJ" 1972/1978 Spit Six Project car "Joseph" 1957 Chevy Bel Air "Mayflower" -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Curry Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 4:26 PM To: triumphs at autox.team.net; spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: [Spits] Weird attachments Today, I started getting messages from Team.net list server with an attachment that indicates that my email address is to be unsubscribed from the lists. Has anybody else gotten any of theses? I suspect the lists have been hacked. Joe C. _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/parrotthead01 at comcast.net From mmilkevitch at yahoo.com Mon Jul 18 16:14:48 2011 From: mmilkevitch at yahoo.com (Matthew Milkevitch) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:14:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] Weird attachments In-Reply-To: <00c401cc458f$cdff9220$69feb660$@net> Message-ID: <1311027288.50784.YahooMailClassic@web39424.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes, I've received these also. In addition these have appeared on the TR7/TR8 list. I've been deleting them all for I suspect some type of phishing scam. Matt Mlkevitch '77 Spitfire '79 TR7 --- On Mon, 7/18/11, Daniel Parrott wrote: From: Daniel Parrott Subject: Re: [Spits] Weird attachments To: "'Joe Curry'" , triumphs at autox.team.net, spitfires at autox.team.net Date: Monday, July 18, 2011, 5:15 PM I've started receiving two or three a week. Dan Parrott Savannah, Ga 1980 Triumph Spitfire "PJ" 1972/1978 Spit Six Project car "Joseph" 1957 Chevy Bel Air "Mayflower" -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Curry Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 4:26 PM To: triumphs at autox.team.net; spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: [Spits] Weird attachments Today, I started getting messages from Team.net list server with an attachment that indicates that my email address is to be unsubscribed from the lists. Has anybody else gotten any of theses? I suspect the lists have been hacked. Joe C. _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/parrotthead01 at comcast.net _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/mmilkevitch at yahoo.com From RTGetzinger at scif.com Mon Jul 25 20:48:12 2011 From: RTGetzinger at scif.com (Rob T. Getzinger) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 19:48:12 -0700 Subject: [Spits] Spitfire 2800 Message-ID: <5B6777C1252172469CC7283C9F436E181195007A@EXCHANGE.scif.com> This is not a solicitation to sell. After purchasing my '72 Spitfire in Manhattan Beach in 1999 I have finally completed and registered the car. Thanks to Barry Schwartz for the primary inspiration and to Paul Tegler for the ancilliary inspirations. The result, my Spitfire 2800. This things hauls in 3rd, 4th, and 5th gears. As the gurd says, I can only dream of things like this. Took me 13 years, dollars were an issue. I Love it but is has to go for medical fuunding. See at ebay under Spitfire 2800 cc. Do not buy this car. I am having fun driving it. I have another 1974 frame off ready to go with the machine work already done. I am on my 5th Spitfire, started in 1984 with number one. Enjoy. Thanks to contibutors: Gene Randall, hot rodder number uno, and Keith the cat, aka Dave Sudhalter. Rob ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This e-mail message from State Compensation Insurance Fund and all attachments transmitted with it may be privileged or confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or taking any action based on it is strictly prohibited and may have legal consequences. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy the original message and all copies. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From celiracer81 at hotmail.com Tue Jul 26 14:04:54 2011 From: celiracer81 at hotmail.com (celiracer81 at hotmail.com) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 15:04:54 -0500 Subject: [Spits] "Speedster" Convertible top cover In-Reply-To: <5B6777C1252172469CC7283C9F436E181195007A@EXCHANGE.scif.com> References: <5B6777C1252172469CC7283C9F436E181195007A@EXCHANGE.scif.com> Message-ID: Has anyone ever considered making a "speedster" convertible top cover for a spitfire? A reference to what I am talking about could be found on a C5 Corvette Convertible or even the Porsche Boxsters had a "Speedster Cover" available. I am considering the feasibility of this project since I am currently on the fence about wanting to put the top on my Spitfire or not. I think having this type of cover would be a nice finishing touch to the back end of the car vs. the standard leather cover. Once my new house deal goes through and the spitfire comes out of storage, I plan on doing a lot of measuring and put together some drawings as to what I am talking about. Any thoughts? Cheers,Dave From spitlist at cox.net Tue Jul 26 14:11:15 2011 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:11:15 -0700 Subject: [Spits] "Speedster" Convertible top cover In-Reply-To: References: <5B6777C1252172469CC7283C9F436E181195007A@EXCHANGE.scif.com> Message-ID: <111C0714E64145FAB81F9DA735718CF7@Vista> If you are talking about a solid "tonneau", I have also thought about that as an option. However, since both of my Spits have roll bars installed, it would be difficult to come up with something that would work. Joe -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of celiracer81 at hotmail.com Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 1:05 PM To: spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: [Spits] "Speedster" Convertible top cover Has anyone ever considered making a "speedster" convertible top cover for a spitfire? A reference to what I am talking about could be found on a C5 Corvette Convertible or even the Porsche Boxsters had a "Speedster Cover" available. I am considering the feasibility of this project since I am currently on the fence about wanting to put the top on my Spitfire or not. I think having this type of cover would be a nice finishing touch to the back end of the car vs. the standard leather cover. Once my new house deal goes through and the spitfire comes out of storage, I plan on doing a lot of measuring and put together some drawings as to what I am talking about. Any thoughts? Cheers,Dave _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/spitlist at cox.net From mapper55 at hotmail.com Tue Jul 26 14:15:36 2011 From: mapper55 at hotmail.com (Charles Reid) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 16:15:36 -0400 Subject: [Spits] "Speedster" Convertible top cover In-Reply-To: References: <5B6777C1252172469CC7283C9F436E181195007A@EXCHANGE.scif.com>, Message-ID: I'm not sure what you mean. Is it a hard cover for the convertible top when stowed or a semi-permanent fixture? I like the Boxster images I found with bumps behind the seats. Does the convertible top store under the 'speedster' cover? Would the cover be stowable if the top is up? Charles Reid 1980 Triumph Spitfire > From: celiracer81 at hotmail.com > To: spitfires at autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 15:04:54 -0500 > Subject: [Spits] "Speedster" Convertible top cover > > Has anyone ever considered making a "speedster" convertible top cover for a > spitfire? A reference to what I am talking about could be found on a C5 > Corvette Convertible or even the Porsche Boxsters had a "Speedster Cover" > available. > I am considering the feasibility of this project since I am currently on the > fence about wanting to put the top on my Spitfire or not. I think having this > type of cover would be a nice finishing touch to the back end of the car vs. > the standard leather cover. > Once my new house deal goes through and the spitfire comes out of storage, I > plan on doing a lot of measuring and put together some drawings as to what I > am talking about. > Any thoughts? > Cheers,Dave > _______________________________________________ > > Spitfires at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/mapper55 at hotmail.com From Mackmi at usa.redcross.org Tue Jul 26 14:23:16 2011 From: Mackmi at usa.redcross.org (Mackmi at usa.redcross.org) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 16:23:16 -0400 Subject: [Spits] "Speedster" Convertible top cover In-Reply-To: References: <5B6777C1252172469CC7283C9F436E181195007A@EXCHANGE.scif.com> Message-ID: <32B95304CB44EF4E81483EEA6D059782107E7F9B@brnyrchex2.bio.ri.redcross.net> There is a nice Hard Tonneau cover on the Triumph Stags. There is a space behind the back seats where the top fits, and the hard cover lays flat over it. Mike Mack 79 Spit 73 Stag 70 GT6 80 TR8 -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of celiracer81 at hotmail.com Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 4:05 PM To: spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: [Spits] "Speedster" Convertible top cover Has anyone ever considered making a "speedster" convertible top cover for a spitfire? A reference to what I am talking about could be found on a C5 Corvette Convertible or even the Porsche Boxsters had a "Speedster Cover" available. I am considering the feasibility of this project since I am currently on the fence about wanting to put the top on my Spitfire or not. I think having this type of cover would be a nice finishing touch to the back end of the car vs. the standard leather cover. Once my new house deal goes through and the spitfire comes out of storage, I plan on doing a lot of measuring and put together some drawings as to what I am talking about. Any thoughts? Cheers,Dave _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/mackmi at usa.redcross.org From arodnitzky at yahoo.com Tue Jul 26 17:15:33 2011 From: arodnitzky at yahoo.com (Adam Rodnitzky) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 16:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] My Spitfire Featured In Fashion Shoot Message-ID: <1311722133.16235.YahooMailNeo@web30401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> It's been a while since I've posted to the list, but thought some of you might find this fun. My '70 Mk3 was featured in a fashion shoot for IndiDenim, a Bay Area-based jeans company. Here it is! http://www.indicustom.com/landing/indi-summer?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=email-indi-summer From zoboherald at aol.com Tue Jul 26 17:25:43 2011 From: zoboherald at aol.com (Andrew S. Mace) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:25:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spits] My Spitfire Featured In Fashion Shoot In-Reply-To: <1311722133.16235.YahooMailNeo@web30401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1311722133.16235.YahooMailNeo@web30401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CE1A027905150E-D90-3E0F7@webmail-d150.sysops.aol.com> I'm sorry...is there a car somewhere in those photos? :D Kidding, of course; very cool! --Andy Mace *Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet? *Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph Herald engine with wings. -- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22) Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph Register: http://www.vtr.org Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald Database: http://triumph-herald.us -----Original Message----- From: Adam Rodnitzky To: Spitfire Digest It's been a while since I've posted to the list, but thought some of you might find this fun. My '70 Mk3 was featured in a fashion shoot for IndiDenim, a Bay Area-based jeans company. Here it is! From hupshall at triumphcars.com Tue Jul 26 22:48:02 2011 From: hupshall at triumphcars.com (Huw Upshall) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 21:48:02 -0700 Subject: [Spits] 1500 drivers door Message-ID: <59CA8A6A53882E499A178494C190E2EE04ED998F0C@VA3DIAXVS491.RED001.local> I'm hoping somebody on the list can help - I'm looking for a driver's side door for a 1500 - in the Seattle area. Thanks. -Huw From celiracer81 at hotmail.com Wed Jul 27 15:16:51 2011 From: celiracer81 at hotmail.com (celiracer81 at hotmail.com) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:16:51 -0500 Subject: [Spits] "Speedster" Convertible top cover In-Reply-To: <32B95304CB44EF4E81483EEA6D059782107E858B@brnyrchex2.bio.ri.redcross.net> References: <5B6777C1252172469CC7283C9F436E181195007A@EXCHANGE.scif.com> , <32B95304CB44EF4E81483EEA6D059782107E858B@brnyrchex2.bio.ri.redcross.net> Message-ID: Thanks Mike! That e-bay item is pretty much exactly what i am thinking about. Click For Reference: Miata Tonneau Cover I have never seen a spitfire with something like that but I like the look. The Porsche ones that i have seen are also 2-piece molded parts like that for easy storage when the top is up. My thought was that since I may not install my soft top at all, that this would be a single piece that would be stationary. I think if you wanted to use it as a tonnau cover it might have to be a 2-piece unit as well for quick easy storage in the boot or behind the seats when the top is up. One might even be able to rig up some sort of hinge mechanism that would attach at the front of the unit and pivot forward to allow the convertible top to be used? I dunno. It is all speculation at this point. Joe, Perhaps a 2-piece unit with cut-outs for the roll bars might be an option? When i get around to some designing I will see what i can come up with. :-) I am thinking the easiest way of creating this would be to model the part(s) out of foam and just do a fiberglass positive with some strengthening braces integrated into it. We will see once the car comes out of storage. Cheers,Dave > Subject: RE: [Spits] "Speedster" Convertible top cover > Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:02:51 -0400 > From: Mackmi at usa.redcross.org > To: celiracer81 at hotmail.com > > Dave, > > I came across an eBay auction for a Miata Speedster Cover # 110717007388 > . > I thought you might get design ideas from the pics. > > Mike Mack > 79 Spit > 73 Stag > 70 GT6 > 80 TR8 > 74 VW Thing > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > celiracer81 at hotmail.com > Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 4:05 PM > To: spitfires at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spits] "Speedster" Convertible top cover > > Has anyone ever considered making a "speedster" convertible top cover > for a > spitfire? A reference to what I am talking about could be found on a C5 > Corvette Convertible or even the Porsche Boxsters had a "Speedster > Cover" > available. > I am considering the feasibility of this project since I am currently on > the > fence about wanting to put the top on my Spitfire or not. I think > having this > type of cover would be a nice finishing touch to the back end of the car > vs. > the standard leather cover. > Once my new house deal goes through and the spitfire comes out of > storage, I > plan on doing a lot of measuring and put together some drawings as to > what I > am talking about. > Any thoughts? > Cheers,Dave > _______________________________________________ > > Spitfires at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/mackmi at usa.redcross.org From celiracer81 at hotmail.com Wed Jul 27 20:12:18 2011 From: celiracer81 at hotmail.com (celiracer81 at hotmail.com) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 21:12:18 -0500 Subject: [Spits] "Speedster" Convertible top cover In-Reply-To: <27406061.1311810440786.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <27406061.1311810440786.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: That's pretty cool! Never seen that before. My concern is though that i want to maintain the functionality of the rear boot. So the farthest back i would go with the speedster tonneau would be to the boot lid. but then that will also require a cutout for the fuel lid. Cheers,Dave> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 19:47:20 -0400 > From: agostinihp at earthlink.net > To: celiracer81 at hotmail.com > Subject: Re: [Spits] "Speedster" Convertible top cover > > Hi there > > You folks might want to look a the Macau Spitfire for inspiration. Graham Robson's book "Triumph spitfire and GT6" has pictures of it. It appears that the rear deck, starting with the trunk (boot) lid, was extended forward towards the driver's seat. > > Regards > Hector From andrew.lindeman at gmail.com Sat Jul 30 18:51:51 2011 From: andrew.lindeman at gmail.com (Andrew Lindeman) Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 18:51:51 -0600 Subject: [Spits] VTR 2011 - Breckenridge Colorado Message-ID: The VTR convention is fast approaching. Who from this old list is going to be at the convention next month? Andy L. From spitlist at cox.net Sat Jul 30 19:43:45 2011 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 18:43:45 -0700 Subject: [Spits] VTR 2011 - Breckenridge Colorado In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <213B9CF2B5484554B90EFF5CA678121D@Vista> ME Joe -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Lindeman Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 5:52 PM To: spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: [Spits] VTR 2011 - Breckenridge Colorado The VTR convention is fast approaching. Who from this old list is going to be at the convention next month? Andy L. _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/spitlist at cox.net From cwnfot at gmail.com Sun Jul 31 18:55:56 2011 From: cwnfot at gmail.com (Clark W. Nicholls) Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 20:55:56 -0400 Subject: [Spits] VTR 2011 - Breckenridge Colorado In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00ae01cc4fe5$c72de2c0$5589a840$@com> I will arrive on Tuesday the 16th Clark Clark W. Nicholls 1972 Stag (LE7931E), 1974 Spitfire (FM14571U) and 1 rusty GT6 needing new owner "Reality, it's not what you think." -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Lindeman Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 8:52 PM To: spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: [Spits] VTR 2011 - Breckenridge Colorado The VTR convention is fast approaching. Who from this old list is going to be at the convention next month? Andy L. _______________________________________________ Spitfires at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/cwnfot at gmail.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3799 - Release Date: 07/30/11