From parrotthead01 at comcast.net Thu Oct 1 07:54:29 2009 From: parrotthead01 at comcast.net (Daniel Parrott) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:54:29 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Mount body In-Reply-To: <4AC414B5.9010803@pldi.net> References: <4AC414B5.9010803@pldi.net> Message-ID: <000501ca429e$b24b5d70$16e21850$@net> Look at page 38 from the latest Victoria British catalog. I appears that there should be 6 pads, two at the rear over the rear axles, and another set a at the heel board mounts, and a last pair where the seat belts are attached. Dan Parrott Savannah, Ga 1980 Triumph Spitfire "PJ" 1972/1978 Spit Six Project car "Joseph" -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Vaughan Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 10:32 PM To: spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: [Spits] Mount body I am about ready to set my '73 Spitfire body back on the refurbished frame. When I seperated the two, I was confidant I would remember where the two 1/4 inch thick aluminum spacers went. I don't remember. They went on the front outboard body bolts, at the firewall, or the ones directly above the rear axle. Can anyone refresh my memory? The body mounting kit I bought didn't have the spacers. Larry Spitfires at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires http://www.team.net/archive From ccullen16 at cogeco.ca Fri Oct 2 07:59:34 2009 From: ccullen16 at cogeco.ca (ccullen16 at cogeco.ca) Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:59:34 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Transmission installation Message-ID: <4ac60746.122.655c.20710@cogeco.ca> Looking for a little advice here. I am in the process of installing my transmission back into my spitfire. I did this once before, but that was 12 years ago, and my memory on how smoothly it went in is a bit hazy. My question is this.... I have the transmission back in place (sort of) with the transmission on the guide dowel (as well as the three engine studs on top of the bell housing. The problem is I can't really get the bell housing of the transmission to mate uniformly around the engine. On the top area the bell housing is flush to the engine, on the sides it is about 1/3 of an inch out, and on the bottom closer to 3/4 of an inch. Last night as I was doing this I contemplated bolting in the surrounding bolts to see if this would flush up the bell housing to the engine. However, previous, applications of "Irish Persuasion" have lead to some unfortunate results in other applications with my Spit. So, at about 10 pm last night I decided to sleep on the issue and perhaps query the list. Should I back out the transmission and make another attempt at mating the transmission so that the bellhousing is completely flush around the circumference of the engine prior to tightening any bolts? Or, is the fact that the bellhousing is flush to the top of the engine good enough to tighten down the surrounding bolts/nuts? Thanks, Jim Cullen 74 Spitfire From jimmuller at rcn.com Fri Oct 2 08:18:31 2009 From: jimmuller at rcn.com (jimmuller at rcn.com) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:18:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spits] Transmission installation In-Reply-To: <4ac60746.122.655c.20710@cogeco.ca> References: <4ac60746.122.655c.20710@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <20091002101831.CSO54945@ms10.lnh.mail.rcn.net> Jim Cullen asked: > Or, is the fact that the bellhousing is flush to the top > of the engine good enough to tighten down the surrounding > bolts/nuts? NOOOO!!!!! The large block-bellhousing gap at the bottom is telling you that they are not angled properly: the tranny input shaft is hitting the clutch from too high an angle, i.e. the crank and input shaft are forming a shallow V. Most likely this is preventing it from entering the pilot bushing, but it could also just be preventing the spines from mating. I don't know how you have everything supported but the action you must take one way or another is to lower the back of the tranny so that it and the crank are co-axial. A related problem is that if you have the block supported too high the various protrusions on the tranny may hit the firewall and frustrate you. There is no substitute for patience. Also useful are a good helper, 2ft long sections of 2x4 for leverage, an adequate supply of swear words, and a good ale waiting for motivation but not so good as to make you rush the job. But regardless of the tools, do not force it. Jim Muller '80 Spitfire '70 GT6+ plenty of pull-the-tranny experience From ccullen16 at cogeco.ca Fri Oct 2 09:38:13 2009 From: ccullen16 at cogeco.ca (ccullen16 at cogeco.ca) Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:38:13 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Transmission installation Message-ID: <4ac61e65.2a1.673d.6389@cogeco.ca> Thanks for the advice Jim (Michael and James too). I kind of thought that I would need to back it out. I just wasn't sure if I would get any better results the second time. I have jacked up the block and the tranny and did play around with the height last night when attempting the job. I didn't back out the tranny though thinking that once I had the tranny on the guide dowel and the studs I had achieved success. I will try again keeping advice in mind. Thanks, Jim Cullen 74 Spitfire > > Jim Cullen asked: > > > Or, is the fact that the bellhousing is flush to the top > > of the engine good enough to tighten down the surrounding > > bolts/nuts? > > NOOOO!!!!! > > The large block-bellhousing gap at the bottom is telling you that they are not angled properly: the tranny input shaft > is hitting the clutch from too high an angle, i.e. the crank and input shaft are forming a shallow V. Most likely > this is preventing it from entering the pilot bushing, but it could also just be preventing the spines from mating. I > don't know how you have everything supported but the action you must take one way or another is to lower the back of > the tranny so that it and the crank are co -axial. A related problem is that if you have the block supported too high > the various protrusions on the tranny may hit the firewall and frustrate you. > > There is no substitute for patience. Also useful are a good helper, 2ft long sections of 2x4 for leverage, an > adequate supply of swear words, and a good ale waiting for motivation but not so good as to make you rush the job. > > But regardless of the tools, do not force it. > > Jim Muller > '80 Spitfire > '70 GT6+ > plenty of pull-the-tranny experience From gamerrell at qwest.net Fri Oct 2 10:18:20 2009 From: gamerrell at qwest.net (Glenn Merrell) Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 10:18:20 -0600 Subject: [Spits] TTA Charity Drive Completes Successfully in San Luis Obispo, UJ for SALE! Message-ID: <4AC627CC.7040805@qwest.net> Hello All. ! In a procession of about 30 Standards and Triumphs, the Triumph Trans America Charity Drive 2009 completed the over 14000 mile drive arriving at the Embassy Suites SLO in just over 90 days, 31 states, 6 provinces, enlightening literally thousands of people to the the cause for awareness of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. During this drive many hundreds of Triumphs caravaned with John and "UJ" to, from and at the 45 hosts and host clubs. The total British Cars in the caravans will total over 1000 at final count. Current donations for the three Charities is in the $25k range, and this is not the end of collections! Please contribute what you can. And remember, the Stag is also going to be auctioned for charity unless a benefactor steps up and asks "how much do I write the check for and to what charity?". The highest amount to benefit charity wins the title for Uncle Jack. If the car is auctioned, it will appear in an auction site on the TTA web site. I would like to begin the opening bid - since it would be for charity, should be at $40,000.00 USD. Too High? Let me know and we will consider a lower amount, we already have 3-4 people interested starting at $25k. Already donated? We would consider your donation amount as a contribution toward your final bid! UJ is in concours judging this morning, and I expect a very good result indeed! More later! Cheers! Glenn Merrell TTA North American Coordinator From doug at dougbraun.com Fri Oct 2 12:15:31 2009 From: doug at dougbraun.com (Doug Braun) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 11:15:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] Transmission installation In-Reply-To: <4ac61e65.2a1.673d.6389@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <206817.11167.qm@web601.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Did you have the clutch taken apart? If so, did you use the proper alignment tool to get the clutch disk centered when you reassembled it? In my experience, trying to center it by eye almost never works. Doug Braun '72 Spit --- On Fri, 10/2/09, ccullen16 at cogeco.ca wrote: > From: ccullen16 at cogeco.ca > Subject: Re: [Spits] Transmission installation > To: Spitfires at autox.team.net > Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 11:38 AM > Thanks for the advice Jim (Michael > and James too). I kind of thought that I would need to back > it out. I just wasn't > sure if I would get any better results the second time. I > have jacked up the block and the tranny and did play around > with the height last night when attempting the job. I > didn't back out the tranny though thinking that once I had > the > tranny on the guide dowel and the studs I had achieved > success. I will try again keeping advice in mind. > > Thanks, > > Jim Cullen > 74 Spitfire From parrotthead01 at comcast.net Fri Oct 2 13:35:07 2009 From: parrotthead01 at comcast.net (Daniel Parrott) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:35:07 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Transmission installation In-Reply-To: <206817.11167.qm@web601.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4ac61e65.2a1.673d.6389@cogeco.ca> <206817.11167.qm@web601.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <007d01ca4397$72bb9860$5832c920$@net> My thoughts exactly! Dan Parrott Savannah, Ga 1980 Triumph Spitfire "PJ" 1972/1978 Spit Six Project car "Joseph" -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Doug Braun Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 2:16 PM To: Spitfires at autox.team.net; ccullen16 at cogeco.ca Subject: Re: [Spits] Transmission installation Did you have the clutch taken apart? If so, did you use the proper alignment tool to get the clutch disk centered when you reassembled it? In my experience, trying to center it by eye almost never works. Doug Braun '72 Spit --- On Fri, 10/2/09, ccullen16 at cogeco.ca wrote: > From: ccullen16 at cogeco.ca > Subject: Re: [Spits] Transmission installation > To: Spitfires at autox.team.net > Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 11:38 AM > Thanks for the advice Jim (Michael > and James too). I kind of thought that I would need to back > it out. I just wasn't > sure if I would get any better results the second time. I > have jacked up the block and the tranny and did play around > with the height last night when attempting the job. I > didn't back out the tranny though thinking that once I had > the > tranny on the guide dowel and the studs I had achieved > success. I will try again keeping advice in mind. > > Thanks, > > Jim Cullen > 74 Spitfire Spitfires at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires http://www.team.net/archive From nmoseley at dccnet.com Fri Oct 2 16:50:33 2009 From: nmoseley at dccnet.com (Nick Moseley) Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:50:33 -0700 Subject: [Spits] Transmission installation In-Reply-To: <206817.11167.qm@web601.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4ac61e65.2a1.673d.6389@cogeco.ca> <206817.11167.qm@web601.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I second that experience. (In my experience, trying to center it by eye almost never works.) The last time I did this, the alignment tool that had been purchased since the time before, had gone on walk-about. I used a 3 foot or so wooden dowel, with rounds of masking tape where it went through the disk, and then used a carpenters' square to get 90 degrees on the dowel at 12, 6, 3, and 9 o'clocks, getting the disk in the right spot. The correct tool would have been much better, but at least this got the job done. Hours and hours, and much back pain, had been of no avail. Nick Moseley, NASS #278: 63-81 Spits, GT 6, Metro Vancouver B.C. -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Doug Braun Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 11:16 AM To: Spitfires at autox.team.net; ccullen16 at cogeco.ca Subject: Re: [Spits] Transmission installation Did you have the clutch taken apart? If so, did you use the proper alignment tool to get the clutch disk centered when you reassembled it? In my experience, trying to center it by eye almost never works. Doug Braun '72 Spit From doug at dougbraun.com Sat Oct 3 10:16:22 2009 From: doug at dougbraun.com (Doug Braun) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 16:16:22 +0000 Subject: [Spits] Transmission installation Message-ID: I have a mini-lathe, so when I needed a centering tool, I was able to quickly make one from a piece of solid PVC. You could also make one from hardwood if you had a wood lathe... Doug From sinclair at degenkolb.com Sat Oct 3 16:21:28 2009 From: sinclair at degenkolb.com (Mark Sinclair) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 18:21:28 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Spitfire Complete 1197cc Engine and Box - SF, CA Message-ID: Hi, I have a complete 1197cc engine and gearbox available, on Craigslist, here. http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/pts/1405004927.html Email me if you want more details or picture. Thanks Mark Sinclair 415-286-1578 San Francisco, CA From spitlist at cox.net Sun Oct 4 20:11:29 2009 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 19:11:29 -0700 Subject: [Spits] [TR] Spitfire Complete 1197cc Engine and Box - SF, CA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You mean 1147, don't you? Joe -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Sinclair Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 3:21 PM To: triumphs at autox.team.net; spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Spitfire Complete 1197cc Engine and Box - SF, CA Hi, I have a complete 1197cc engine and gearbox available, on Craigslist, here. http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/pts/1405004927.html Email me if you want more details or picture. Thanks Mark Sinclair 415-286-1578 San Francisco, CA This list supported in part by the Vintage Triumph Register http://www.vtr.org Triumphs at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive From sinclair at degenkolb.com Sat Oct 10 09:33:56 2009 From: sinclair at degenkolb.com (Mark Sinclair) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:33:56 -0400 Subject: [Spits] [TR] Spitfire Complete 1147cc Engine and Box - SF, CA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Drat, thanks Joe. Unfortunately I doubt that's the reason for the underwhelming response. I'm ready to get rid of it, so if there is anyone who wants to come and get it, or arrange shipping, they can have it for free. Mark Sinclair 415-286-1578 -----Original Message----- From: Joe Curry [mailto:spitlist at cox.net] Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 7:11 PM To: Mark Sinclair; triumphs at autox.team.net; spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [TR] Spitfire Complete 1197cc Engine and Box - SF, CA You mean 1147, don't you? Joe -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Sinclair Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 3:21 PM To: triumphs at autox.team.net; spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Spitfire Complete 1197cc Engine and Box - SF, CA Hi, I have a complete 1197cc engine and gearbox available, on Craigslist, here. http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/pts/1405004927.html Email me if you want more details or picture. Thanks Mark Sinclair 415-286-1578 San Francisco, CA This list supported in part by the Vintage Triumph Register http://www.vtr.org Triumphs at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive From parrotthead01 at comcast.net Sun Oct 11 10:50:39 2009 From: parrotthead01 at comcast.net (Daniel Parrott) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:50:39 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Ah, the scent of optimism! Ebay listing Message-ID: <00c501ca4a92$f6aec550$e40c4ff0$@net> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Triumph-Spitfire-GT6-1962-thru-1980-A-Arm_W0Q QitemZ150372567423QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash =item2302e7497f#ht_500wt_1182 I wish all of my spare parts could be sold for this much! Dan Parrott Savannah, Ga 1980 Triumph Spitfire "PJ" 1972/1978 Spit Six Project car "Joseph" From spitlist at cox.net Sun Oct 11 11:13:49 2009 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 10:13:49 -0700 Subject: [Spits] Ah, the scent of optimism! Ebay listing In-Reply-To: <00c501ca4a92$f6aec550$e40c4ff0$@net> References: <00c501ca4a92$f6aec550$e40c4ff0$@net> Message-ID: <91924A6CD2FF47C89B20A78FECCB2511@joepentiumnew> I have several of these in my collection that I will take $10.00 each for. Save $290! :) Joe -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daniel Parrott Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 9:51 AM To: Spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: [Spits] Ah, the scent of optimism! Ebay listing http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Triumph-Spitfire-GT6-1962-thru-1980-A-Arm_W0Q QitemZ150372567423QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash =item2302e7497f#ht_500wt_1182 I wish all of my spare parts could be sold for this much! Dan Parrott Savannah, Ga 1980 Triumph Spitfire "PJ" 1972/1978 Spit Six Project car "Joseph" You are subscribed as spitlist at cox.net Spitfires at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires http://www.team.net/archive From nmoseley at dccnet.com Sun Oct 11 13:29:06 2009 From: nmoseley at dccnet.com (Nick Moseley) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:29:06 -0700 Subject: [Spits] Ah, the scent of optimism! Ebay listing In-Reply-To: <91924A6CD2FF47C89B20A78FECCB2511@joepentiumnew> References: <00c501ca4a92$f6aec550$e40c4ff0$@net> <91924A6CD2FF47C89B20A78FECCB2511@joepentiumnew> Message-ID: <3215277640184E98BB8D4A07C06CC7ED@yourb27fb1c401> It looks like someone is having fun with a plating kit, perhaps after recent discussions on another list. $300 seems, excessive, but there is provision for making an offer! Nick Moseley, Metro Vancouver B.C. -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Curry Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 10:14 AM To: 'Daniel Parrott'; Spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spits] Ah, the scent of optimism! Ebay listing I have several of these in my collection that I will take $10.00 each for. Save $290! :) Joe -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daniel Parrott Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 9:51 AM To: Spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: [Spits] Ah, the scent of optimism! Ebay listing http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Triumph-Spitfire-GT6-1962-thru-1980-A-Arm_W0Q QitemZ150372567423QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash =item2302e7497f#ht_500wt_1182 I wish all of my spare parts could be sold for this much! Dan Parrott Savannah, Ga 1980 Triumph Spitfire "PJ" 1972/1978 Spit Six Project car "Joseph" You are subscribed as spitlist at cox.net Spitfires at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires http://www.team.net/archive You are subscribed as nmoseley at dccnet.com Spitfires at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires http://www.team.net/archive From mark at bradakis.com Sun Oct 11 16:45:00 2009 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:45:00 -0600 Subject: [Spits] Ah, the scent of optimism! Ebay listing In-Reply-To: <3215277640184E98BB8D4A07C06CC7ED@yourb27fb1c401> References: <00c501ca4a92$f6aec550$e40c4ff0$@net> <91924A6CD2FF47C89B20A78FECCB2511@joepentiumnew> <3215277640184E98BB8D4A07C06CC7ED@yourb27fb1c401> Message-ID: <4AD25FEC.9020805@bradakis.com> Gee, is that nickel plating, or pure platinum?? mjb. From douglashansen at yahoo.com Sun Oct 11 17:48:13 2009 From: douglashansen at yahoo.com (Spitfire4) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:48:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] Fw: Ah, the scent of optimism! Ebay listing In-Reply-To: <00c501ca4a92$f6aec550$e40c4ff0$@net> References: <00c501ca4a92$f6aec550$e40c4ff0$@net> Message-ID: <900096.94234.qm@web52202.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I want them in carbon fiber! with Stanpart still stamped on them :) Douglas A. Hansen www.1147cc.com To: Spitfires at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, October 11, 2009 12:50:39 PM Subject: [Spits] Ah, the scent of optimism! Ebay listing http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Triumph-Spitfire-GT6-1962-thru-1980-A-Arm_W0Q QitemZ150372567423QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash =item2302e7497f#ht_500wt_1182 I wish all of my spare parts could be sold for this much! Dan Parrott Savannah, Ga 1980 Triumph Spitfire "PJ" 1972/1978 Spit Six Project car "Joseph" You are subscribed as douglashansen at yahoo.com Spitfires at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires http://www.team.net/archive From jimmuller at rcn.com Sun Oct 11 18:17:53 2009 From: jimmuller at rcn.com (Jim Muller) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20:17:53 -0400 Subject: [Spits] a surprising fit for the throttle Message-ID: <4AD23D71.24109.EEF151B@localhost> My GT6 has always had an imprecise throttle. I partly blame a PO's transplant of SU carbs whose mechanical arrangement may or may not be appropriate. But partly it is because the big transverse shaft which runs across the car from driver to carbs has fit only loosely in the firewall hole on the right (carb) side. It has never had a real bushing or grommet. I've ordered two from Spitbits hoping they would be true bushings but their picture looks like a normal rubber grommet and it is labelled grommet. Maybe that's all it is supposed to be; I've never look carefully at another car's. So today I was cleaning up some stuff left over from last week's rainfest at CCBCC's British Legends show. On my workbench was a 1" long discarded piece of gas line. The inner diameter looked to be exactly the diameter of the throttle shaft. And the outer diameter looked to match the hole in the firewall as near as I could actually see it. Since I rarely have as much time to work as I did today, I wondered if I could get this taken care of for the time being. What the heck, let's see if it will fit... Surprise, it fit exactly. It took no persuasion to slip over the end of the shaft in the passenger's footwell and minimal persuasion to get to through the firewall. Don't know how long it will last, but it can't be much worse than a rubber gromet. It might have been made for that application. Jim Muller jimmuller at rcn.com From tom at penno.com Sun Oct 11 18:52:53 2009 From: tom at penno.com (Tom Penno) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20:52:53 -0400 Subject: [Spits] wood dash replacement In-Reply-To: <4AD23D71.24109.EEF151B@localhost> References: <4AD23D71.24109.EEF151B@localhost> Message-ID: <000501ca4ad6$54dda8b0$fe98fa10$@com> My son and I have a 78 spitfire and are interested in replacing the 3 wood panels from the dash. Any recommendations on where to look? Thanks tom From spitlist at cox.net Sun Oct 11 18:55:31 2009 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:55:31 -0700 Subject: [Spits] a surprising fit for the throttle In-Reply-To: <4AD23D71.24109.EEF151B@localhost> References: <4AD23D71.24109.EEF151B@localhost> Message-ID: In the long run, it would probably be best to fit a cable linkage from a late Spit and get rid of the mechanical linkage. It makes the throttle much more precise and lasts a whole lot longer. Joe -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Muller Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:18 PM To: Spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: [Spits] a surprising fit for the throttle My GT6 has always had an imprecise throttle. I partly blame a PO's transplant of SU carbs whose mechanical arrangement may or may not be appropriate. But partly it is because the big transverse shaft which runs across the car from driver to carbs has fit only loosely in the firewall hole on the right (carb) side. It has never had a real bushing or grommet. I've ordered two from Spitbits hoping they would be true bushings but their picture looks like a normal rubber grommet and it is labelled grommet. Maybe that's all it is supposed to be; I've never look carefully at another car's. So today I was cleaning up some stuff left over from last week's rainfest at CCBCC's British Legends show. On my workbench was a 1" long discarded piece of gas line. The inner diameter looked to be exactly the diameter of the throttle shaft. And the outer diameter looked to match the hole in the firewall as near as I could actually see it. Since I rarely have as much time to work as I did today, I wondered if I could get this taken care of for the time being. What the heck, let's see if it will fit... Surprise, it fit exactly. It took no persuasion to slip over the end of the shaft in the passenger's footwell and minimal persuasion to get to through the firewall. Don't know how long it will last, but it can't be much worse than a rubber gromet. It might have been made for that application. Jim Muller jimmuller at rcn.com You are subscribed as spitlist at cox.net Spitfires at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires http://www.team.net/archive From douglashansen at yahoo.com Sun Oct 11 23:02:01 2009 From: douglashansen at yahoo.com (Spitfire4) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] a surprising fit for the throttle In-Reply-To: References: <4AD23D71.24109.EEF151B@localhost> Message-ID: <475419.79726.qm@web52208.mail.re2.yahoo.com> if you install the cable make sure you set the stop bolt so when you put your foot into it you dont rip the end off the cable... a lesson I learned at a AutoX I drove an hour home with only an High idle. I did get some funny looks at stop lights Douglas A. Hansen www.1147cc.com ________________________________ From: Joe Curry To: jimmuller at rcn.com; Spitfires at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, October 11, 2009 8:55:31 PM Subject: Re: [Spits] a surprising fit for the throttle In the long run, it would probably be best to fit a cable linkage from a late Spit and get rid of the mechanical linkage. It makes the throttle much more precise and lasts a whole lot longer. Joe -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Muller Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:18 PM To: Spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: [Spits] a surprising fit for the throttle My GT6 has always had an imprecise throttle. I partly blame a PO's transplant of SU carbs whose mechanical arrangement may or may not be appropriate. But partly it is because the big transverse shaft which runs across the car from driver to carbs has fit only loosely in the firewall hole on the right (carb) side. It has never had a real bushing or grommet. I've ordered two from Spitbits hoping they would be true bushings but their picture looks like a normal rubber grommet and it is labelled grommet. Maybe that's all it is supposed to be; I've never look carefully at another car's. So today I was cleaning up some stuff left over from last week's rainfest at CCBCC's British Legends show. On my workbench was a 1" long discarded piece of gas line. The inner diameter looked to be exactly the diameter of the throttle shaft. And the outer diameter looked to match the hole in the firewall as near as I could actually see it. Since I rarely have as much time to work as I did today, I wondered if I could get this taken care of for the time being. What the heck, let's see if it will fit... Surprise, it fit exactly. It took no persuasion to slip over the end of the shaft in the passenger's footwell and minimal persuasion to get to through the firewall. Don't know how long it will last, but it can't be much worse than a rubber gromet. It might have been made for that application. Jim Muller jimmuller at rcn.com You are subscribed as spitlist at cox.net Spitfires at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires http://www.team.net/archive You are subscribed as douglashansen at yahoo.com Spitfires at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires http://www.team.net/archive From ccullen16 at cogeco.ca Sun Oct 11 23:07:26 2009 From: ccullen16 at cogeco.ca (Jim Cullen) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 01:07:26 -0400 Subject: [Spits] [SUSPECTED SPAM] Transmission installation Update Message-ID: Just wanted to update that I got the transmission back in. The trick was suspending a rope "cradle" from one of the beams in my garage to bear the weight of the front end of the tranny as I guided the little bugger home. This seemed to work better then trying to use my wheeled hydraulic jack to support the tranny. It is a strategy I will definitely use if I need to undertake this job in the future. Thanks for all the help and especially for the overwhelming opinion that patience is the main ingredient in accomplishing this task. Knowing this made the W.H.I.M.'s (What Have I Missed) much less likely to cause me to force something.Everything is back together now and I am enjoying a much deserved Ale. Jim Cullen 1974 Spitfire ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 9:59 AM Subject: [Spits] Transmission installation > Looking for a little advice here. I am in the process of installing my > transmission back into my spitfire. I did this > once before, but that was 12 years ago, and my memory on how smoothly it > went in is a bit hazy. My question is this.... > I have the transmission back in place (sort of) with the transmission on > the guide dowel (as well as the three engine > studs on top of the bell housing. The problem is I can't really get the > bell housing of the transmission to mate > uniformly around the engine. On the top area the bell housing is flush to > the engine, on the sides it is about 1/3 of an > inch out, and on the bottom closer to 3/4 of an inch. Last night as I was > doing this I contemplated bolting in the > surrounding bolts to see if this would flush up the bell housing to the > engine. However, previous, applications of > "Irish Persuasion" have lead to some unfortunate results in other > applications with my Spit. So, at about 10 pm last > night I decided to sleep on the issue and perhaps query the list. Should I > back out the transmission and make another > attempt at mating the transmission so that the bellhousing is completely > flush around the circumference of the engine > prior to tightening any bolts? Or, is the fact that the bellhousing is > flush to the top of the engine good enough to > tighten down the surrounding bolts/nuts? > > Thanks, > > Jim Cullen > 74 Spitfire > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ccullen16 at cogeco.ca > > Spitfires at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires > > http://www.team.net/archive From jimmuller at rcn.com Mon Oct 12 06:00:31 2009 From: jimmuller at rcn.com (Jim Muller) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:00:31 -0400 Subject: [Spits] [SUSPECTED SPAM] Transmission installation Update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4AD2E21F.25030.11725D38@localhost> On 12 Oct 2009 at 1:07, Jim Cullen wrote: > Just wanted to update that I got the transmission back in. Good to hear. I was thinkin' of you just yesterday, wondering how you made out. Was gonna' ask. > The trick was suspending a rope "cradle" from one of the beams > in my garage to bear the weight of the front end of the tranny > as I guided the little bugger home. Interesting trick. You ran the rope in front of the firewall? Jim Muller jimmuller at rcn.com, 42022'44"N 71013'2"W "younger nor I am, and more soople, sir, oh, far more soople." From doug at dougbraun.com Mon Oct 12 06:05:14 2009 From: doug at dougbraun.com (Doug Braun) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 05:05:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] Ah, the scent of optimism! Ebay listing In-Reply-To: <4AD25FEC.9020805@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <368913.76369.qm@web603.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I suspect that if you brought those pieces to a lot of plating shops, they would change about $300 to plate them. But why on earth would anybody want nickel-plated A-arms? I suspect that this was an aborted attempt to do a homebrew chrome-plating job... Doug --- On Sun, 10/11/09, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > From: Mark J Bradakis > Subject: Re: [Spits] Ah, the scent of optimism! Ebay listing > To: Spitfires at autox.team.net > Date: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 6:45 PM > Gee, is that nickel plating, or pure > platinum?? From doug at dougbraun.com Mon Oct 12 06:13:20 2009 From: doug at dougbraun.com (Doug Braun) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 05:13:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] Brake light switch adjustment? Message-ID: <580850.49709.qm@web604.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello, On the Spit, the brake light switch is mounted on the pedal bracket, and a little metal tab welded to the brake pedal arm is supposed to push in the switch plunger when the brake pedal is not depressed. But on my car, ever since I bought it 19 years ago, that little tab doesn't quite reach the switch, and somebody had to put a hose clamp around the brake pedal arm, over the tab, so the switch would actually get pushed in. I have had the M/C off a couple of times over the years, and nothing seems bent, incorrect, or otherwise out of whack. The height of the brake pedal matches the clutch pedal. Has anyone sever seen this issue before? There does not seem to be anything that can be adjusted. The original (plastic) switch fell apart a few weeks ago, and I was hoping that the replacement would have a longer plunger that would allow me to remove the hose clamp, but the new switch wa the same as the old. Doug Braun '72 Spit From jimmuller at rcn.com Mon Oct 12 06:54:23 2009 From: jimmuller at rcn.com (Jim Muller) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:54:23 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Brake light switch adjustment? In-Reply-To: <580850.49709.qm@web604.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4AD2EEBF.3869.11A3AD00@localhost> On 12 Oct 2009 at 5:13, Doug Braun wrote: > But on my car...that little tab doesn't quite reach the switch, > Has anyone sever seen this issue before? I can't speak for everyone else so technically I can't answer this question. But I have never seen it myself, if that's what you are asking. Without my going out to check, two thoughts come to mind. One is that perhaps a PO "adjusted" the height of the pedal somehow to make it match the clutch. The second is to ask if there might be or might supposed to be an adjustment mechanism, a backing nut or something to position the switch, which might perhaps be missing from yours. -- Jim Muller jimmuller at rcn.com '80 Spitfire, '70 GT6+ From Jim.Holmgren at corp.aol.com Mon Oct 12 06:59:42 2009 From: Jim.Holmgren at corp.aol.com (Jim Holmgren) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:59:42 -0400 Subject: [Spits] [SUSPECTED SPAM] Transmission installation Update In-Reply-To: <4AD2E21F.25030.11725D38@localhost> References: <4AD2E21F.25030.11725D38@localhost> Message-ID: <5A1055F3C9314142A922A9FC6AC21A610719A96132@BALT-EMAIL.corp.advertising.com> Hi Jim, So you used the rope-relocation trick, eh? This pic probably looks familiar then... (that's Paul Tegler in the saddle) http://www.littlebluespitfire.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=2450 Having 5 people to help with the process doesn't hurt, but it still took us a full day to swap out my 4-speed with an OD unit. :) Jim NASS #302 NASS Club Secretary '75 Spitfire 1500 w/OD www.littlebluespitfire.com York, PA > The trick was suspending a rope "cradle" from one of the beams > in my garage to bear the weight of the front end of the tranny > as I guided the little bugger home. _______________________________________________ The information transmitted in this email is intended only for the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please contact the sender and permanently delete the email from any computer. From doug at dougbraun.com Mon Oct 12 08:49:09 2009 From: doug at dougbraun.com (Doug Braun) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 07:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] [SUSPECTED SPAM] Transmission installation Update In-Reply-To: <5A1055F3C9314142A922A9FC6AC21A610719A96132@BALT-EMAIL.corp.advertising.com> Message-ID: <204763.49427.qm@web608.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> When I have removed my transmission, I took out the passenger seat. It made things easier, and less change of damage to the interior. I also remove the pad strip that runs across the bottom of the dash. Doug --- On Mon, 10/12/09, Jim Holmgren wrote: > From: Jim Holmgren > Subject: Re: [Spits] [SUSPECTED SPAM] Transmission installation Update > To: "spitfires at autox.team.net" > Date: Monday, October 12, 2009, 8:59 AM > Hi Jim, > So you used the rope-relocation trick, eh? > > This pic probably looks familiar then... (that's Paul > Tegler in the saddle) > > http://www.littlebluespitfire.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=2450 > > Having 5 people to help with the process doesn't hurt, but > it still took us a > full day to swap out my 4-speed with an OD unit. :) > > > Jim > NASS #302 > NASS Club Secretary > '75 Spitfire 1500 w/OD > www.littlebluespitfire.com > York, PA > > > > > > The trick was suspending a rope "cradle" from one of > the beams > > in my garage to bear the weight of the front end of > the tranny > > as I guided the little bugger home. > _______________________________________________ > > > The information transmitted in this email is intended only > for the person(s) > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > confidential and/or > privileged material. Any review, retransmission, > dissemination or other use > of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this > information by persons or > entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. > If you received this > email in error, please contact the sender and permanently > delete the email > from any computer. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as doug at dougbraun.com > > Spitfires at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires > > http://www.team.net/archive From frank.drummond at gmail.com Mon Oct 12 14:32:49 2009 From: frank.drummond at gmail.com (Frank Drummond) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:32:49 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Re Brakelight switch Message-ID: Doug, I just installed a new switch in my 72 Spit. You might check to make sure that there is only one nut in the arrangement (no joke implied.) Previous owner may have sandwiched the bracket between two nuts to allow for adjustment of the switch but this will move the switch out of range of the pedal. My apology if this is too obvious. Frank Drummond From froggi60 at yahoo.com Mon Oct 12 15:58:36 2009 From: froggi60 at yahoo.com (WFO Herb) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:58:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] Race Spit FS Message-ID: <364278.55479.qm@web56003.mail.re3.yahoo.com> http://reno.craigslist.org/cto/1416274922.html -- Here is an Important Message for anyone who receives this email: If you forward this correspondence, PLEASE DELETE THE FORWARDING HISTORY, which includes my email address! It is a courtesy to me and others who may not wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world! Erasing the history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being propagated! IT ALSO PROTECTS YOU. From red_tr250 at yahoo.com Mon Oct 12 18:07:28 2009 From: red_tr250 at yahoo.com (Todd Bermudez) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:07:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] GT6 Upgrades Message-ID: <877694.87741.qm@web43137.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hi All, I might have an opportunity to go out on a TRack next fall in our '68 GT6. I'm told it would be a good idea to upgrade the stup axles up front. Is it necessary for mild driving on a track. I won't be going as fast as the car will go as I'm a novice. Should I be that concerned about the front axles? What about the rear hubs? I'll be installing the camber compensator as it a MK1. What else? Cooling as always been a problem with this particular car. Cheers, Todd From jimmuller at rcn.com Sat Oct 17 18:37:43 2009 From: jimmuller at rcn.com (Jim Muller) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 20:37:43 -0400 Subject: [Spits] plastic tranny covers Message-ID: <4ADA2B17.27322.19E8E2EB@localhost> I have plastic tranny covers in both the Spitfire and GT6. IIRC, they came from different sources (Spitbits, TRF) but I may be mistaken. As far as I noticed they are the same. They've been in the cars for more than a few years. Neither fit particuarly well, okay but not great for several reasons. The GT6 cover is now slightly cracked in one spot. And driving through severe rain and puddles for the CCBCC British Legends ride taught me the value of having a better fit to the firewall! So I'm considering fitting another and doing it more carefully. Any thoughts or experiences with them? Is any vendor's better than another or are they all really the same from the same manufacturer? Tanks, Jim Muller jimmuller at rcn.com From spitlist at cox.net Sat Oct 17 19:00:28 2009 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:00:28 -0700 Subject: [Spits] plastic tranny covers In-Reply-To: <4ADA2B17.27322.19E8E2EB@localhost> References: <4ADA2B17.27322.19E8E2EB@localhost> Message-ID: <5F44E0705D564EA88D41885C39CA752D@joepentiumnew> I have a PVC one in my red Spit and it fits and works well. I insulated the underneath by spraying Urethane foam (from an aerosol can purchased at Home Depot). That works well and can be trimmed with an electric knife (Just don't tell the wife). Joe -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Muller Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 5:38 PM To: Triumphs at autox.team.net; Spitfire list Subject: [Spits] plastic tranny covers I have plastic tranny covers in both the Spitfire and GT6. IIRC, they came from different sources (Spitbits, TRF) but I may be mistaken. As far as I noticed they are the same. They've been in the cars for more than a few years. Neither fit particuarly well, okay but not great for several reasons. The GT6 cover is now slightly cracked in one spot. And driving through severe rain and puddles for the CCBCC British Legends ride taught me the value of having a better fit to the firewall! So I'm considering fitting another and doing it more carefully. Any thoughts or experiences with them? Is any vendor's better than another or are they all really the same from the same manufacturer? Tanks, Jim Muller jimmuller at rcn.com You are subscribed as spitlist at cox.net Spitfires at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires http://www.team.net/archive From douglashansen at yahoo.com Sat Oct 17 22:51:39 2009 From: douglashansen at yahoo.com (Spitfire4) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21:51:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] plastic tranny covers In-Reply-To: <4ADA2B17.27322.19E8E2EB@localhost> References: <4ADA2B17.27322.19E8E2EB@localhost> Message-ID: <866313.81784.qm@web52212.mail.re2.yahoo.com> the spit and gt6 covers differ. I have a new gt6 cover that I dont plan to use if anyone needs one... OR can trade me a fiberglass version? Douglas A. Hansen www.1147cc.com ________________________________ From: Jim Muller To: Triumphs at autox.team.net; Spitfire list Sent: Sat, October 17, 2009 8:37:43 PM Subject: [Spits] plastic tranny covers I have plastic tranny covers in both the Spitfire and GT6. IIRC, they came from different sources (Spitbits, TRF) but I may be mistaken. As far as I noticed they are the same. They've been in the cars for more than a few years. Neither fit particuarly well, okay but not great for several reasons. The GT6 cover is now slightly cracked in one spot. And driving through severe rain and puddles for the CCBCC British Legends ride taught me the value of having a better fit to the firewall! So I'm considering fitting another and doing it more carefully. Any thoughts or experiences with them? Is any vendor's better than another or are they all really the same from the same manufacturer? Tanks, Jim Muller jimmuller at rcn.com You are subscribed as douglashansen at yahoo.com Spitfires at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires http://www.team.net/archive From jimmuller at rcn.com Sun Oct 18 06:31:00 2009 From: jimmuller at rcn.com (Jim Muller) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 08:31:00 -0400 Subject: [Spits] plastic tranny covers In-Reply-To: <866313.81784.qm@web52212.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <4ADA2B17.27322.19E8E2EB@localhost> Message-ID: <4ADAD244.6542.1C75EA46@localhost> Thanks everyone for your input. On 17 Oct 2009 at 21:51, Spitfire4 wrote: > the spit and gt6 covers differ. > I have a new gt6 cover that I dont plan to use if anyone > needs one... OR can trade me a fiberglass version? Perhaps I misspoke just a bit. I don't doubt that the Spitfire (at least earlier) and GT6 tranny covers might be different. Not sure *why* the Mk IV/1500 cover should differ from the GT6 cover though. But I was wondering about materials, not shape. Spitfire4, you mentioned fiberglass. That would seem to be not the black polycarbonate (or other kind of plastic) that my cars have now. The extra one you have, is it fiberboard or something more (ahem) durable? Are you looking to use fiberglass instead of plastic? -- Jim Muller jimmuller at rcn.com '80 Spitfire, '70 GT6+ From mark at bradakis.com Sun Oct 18 10:24:46 2009 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 10:24:46 -0600 Subject: [Spits] plastic tranny covers In-Reply-To: <4ADAD244.6542.1C75EA46@localhost> References: <4ADA2B17.27322.19E8E2EB@localhost> <4ADAD244.6542.1C75EA46@localhost> Message-ID: <4ADB414E.4000809@bradakis.com> > Not sure > *why* the Mk IV/1500 cover should differ from the GT6 cover though. > > The starters are on different sides, so the clearance bulge is different. mjb. From elliottr at rmi.net Sun Oct 18 12:05:21 2009 From: elliottr at rmi.net (Roger Elliott) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 13:05:21 -0500 Subject: [Spits] Spitfire 1500 differential Message-ID: <4ADB58E1.30204@rmi.net> Hi, I decided I was going to replace the front differential bushings on the Spitfire as I was having similar symptoms that my wife was having on her 250. (juddering in first and reverse went starting off). Her probelm was corrected by the differential bushings. It turns out you to do it with the differential in the cat you must remove the input, So I decided that I should break down and have the differential rebuilt as it leaks rather badly and whines. Not sure how important the whining is as it has been doing it almost forever. I have the differential almost removed. But I have run into a problem. I can't get the long bolt that runs through the rear mounts out. I have the nut off, but I can't get the bolt to budge. I can't figure out a way to get any leverage on it. The end of the bolt is pointed so even if I could get to the end any punch I have would slide off when I hit it with a hammer. Of course there is no straight shot at it any way. Any suggestions on how to get that bolt out? Thanks, Roger Elliott From spitlist at cox.net Sun Oct 18 13:04:29 2009 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 12:04:29 -0700 Subject: [Spits] Spitfire 1500 differential In-Reply-To: <4ADB58E1.30204@rmi.net> References: <4ADB58E1.30204@rmi.net> Message-ID: <45218CDD77134A5190FBF8F99123AC55@joepentiumnew> It is pretty common for the bolt to be rusted in one or both bushing sleeves inside the back mounting ears of the diff. If this is the case, You might have to resort to cutting through the bolt using a saws-all at the edges of both the ears. That will free the diff and allow you to get it out of the car. Then you will have to drive out the bushings and replace them and the bolt. Be sure to use ample amounts of anti-seize compound when reassembling it. Joe -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Roger Elliott Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 11:05 AM To: spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: [Spits] Spitfire 1500 differential Hi, I decided I was going to replace the front differential bushings on the Spitfire as I was having similar symptoms that my wife was having on her 250. (juddering in first and reverse went starting off). Her probelm was corrected by the differential bushings. It turns out you to do it with the differential in the cat you must remove the input, So I decided that I should break down and have the differential rebuilt as it leaks rather badly and whines. Not sure how important the whining is as it has been doing it almost forever. I have the differential almost removed. But I have run into a problem. I can't get the long bolt that runs through the rear mounts out. I have the nut off, but I can't get the bolt to budge. I can't figure out a way to get any leverage on it. The end of the bolt is pointed so even if I could get to the end any punch I have would slide off when I hit it with a hammer. Of course there is no straight shot at it any way. Any suggestions on how to get that bolt out? Thanks, Roger Elliott You are subscribed as spitlist at cox.net Spitfires at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires http://www.team.net/archive From jimmuller at rcn.com Sun Oct 18 14:19:07 2009 From: jimmuller at rcn.com (Jim Muller) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:19:07 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Spitfire 1500 differential In-Reply-To: <45218CDD77134A5190FBF8F99123AC55@joepentiumnew> References: <4ADB58E1.30204@rmi.net> Message-ID: <4ADB3FFB.28208.1E227F9F@localhost> On 18 Oct 2009 at 12:04, Joe Curry wrote: > You might have to resort to cutting through the bolt using a > saws-all at the edges of both the ears. Joe is right. First time I removed my Spitfire diff about 20 years ago I had the same problem. I cut the bolt out with a hacksaw blade held by a piece of cloth. It, umm, wasn't the pleasantest or fastest job I've ever done on the car. There are ways to hammer the bolt. You can thread a long rod of suitable dimensions through the suspension components such that one end is resting against the pointed end, then whack the end of the rod away from the car with a BFH. But it won't help much. The bushings in the ears of the diff are metal cylinders on the inside and outside of rubber donuts. The impact of the whacking is absorbed by the rubber so you can't transmit any jerk component to the frozen surfaces. Once you get the diff out it is a simple matter to tear the inner part out of the bushing, then cut out the rest from inside the hole. -- Jim Muller jimmuller at rcn.com '80 Spitfire, '70 GT6+ From ZoboHerald at aol.com Sun Oct 18 15:34:54 2009 From: ZoboHerald at aol.com (ZoboHerald at aol.com) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 17:34:54 EDT Subject: [Spits] plastic tranny covers Message-ID: In a message dated 10/18/2009 12:28:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mark at bradakis.com writes: > Not sure > *why* the Mk IV/1500 cover should differ from the GT6 cover though. > > The starters are on different sides, so the clearance bulge is different. ==AM== ...AND the hole for the shift lever is slightly further back on the GT6 (and Vitesse)! --Andy Mace *Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet? *Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph Herald engine with wings. -- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22) Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph Register: _http://www.vtr.org_ (http://www.vtr.org/) Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald Database: _http://triumph-herald.us_ (http://triumph-herald.us/) From doug at dougbraun.com Sun Oct 18 21:58:31 2009 From: doug at dougbraun.com (Doug Braun) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 20:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] Spitfire 1500 differential In-Reply-To: <4ADB3FFB.28208.1E227F9F@localhost> Message-ID: <140424.80709.qm@web605.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Me too! Me too! I did the unpleasant, tedious saw-through-the-bolt thing a number of years ago. You can buy a little plastic handle that clamps on to one end of the hacksaw blade. That makes it a bit easier. Also, be sure to use the highest quality blades, for example a bi-metal type. And make sure to slather anti-seize all over the new bolt! Doug Braun '72 Spit --- On Sun, 10/18/09, Jim Muller wrote: > From: Jim Muller > Subject: Re: [Spits] Spitfire 1500 differential > To: "Spitfire list" > Date: Sunday, October 18, 2009, 4:19 PM > On 18 Oct 2009 at 12:04, Joe Curry > wrote: > > > You might have to resort to cutting through the bolt > using a > > saws-all at the edges of both the ears. > > Joe is right. First time I removed my Spitfire diff > about 20 years > ago I had the same problem. I cut the bolt out with a > hacksaw blade > held by a piece of cloth. It, umm, wasn't the > pleasantest or fastest > job I've ever done on the car. From ccullen16 at cogeco.ca Mon Oct 19 20:31:21 2009 From: ccullen16 at cogeco.ca (Jim Cullen) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:31:21 -0400 Subject: [Spits] [SUSPECTED SPAM] Transmission installation Update References: <4AD2E21F.25030.11725D38@localhost> <5A1055F3C9314142A922A9FC6AC21A610719A96132@BALT-EMAIL.corp.advertising.com> Message-ID: <69328ACE746E462DA92AEF7823C7F7E2@FamilyRoom> That picture looks very familiar except I didn't have as much able bodied help (much easier to laugh about know that the job is done). I highly recommend this strategy for anybody in the same situation as myself. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Holmgren" To: Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [Spits] [SUSPECTED SPAM] Transmission installation Update > Hi Jim, > So you used the rope-relocation trick, eh? > > This pic probably looks familiar then... (that's Paul Tegler in the > saddle) > > http://www.littlebluespitfire.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=2450 > > Having 5 people to help with the process doesn't hurt, but it still took > us a > full day to swap out my 4-speed with an OD unit. :) > > > Jim > NASS #302 > NASS Club Secretary > '75 Spitfire 1500 w/OD > www.littlebluespitfire.com > York, PA > > > > >> The trick was suspending a rope "cradle" from one of the beams >> in my garage to bear the weight of the front end of the tranny >> as I guided the little bugger home. > _______________________________________________ > > > The information transmitted in this email is intended only for the > person(s) > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or > privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other > use > of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons > or > entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received > this > email in error, please contact the sender and permanently delete the email > from any computer. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ccullen16 at cogeco.ca > > Spitfires at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires > > http://www.team.net/archive From frogeye at cox.net Fri Oct 23 06:51:28 2009 From: frogeye at cox.net (frogeye) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:51:28 -0400 Subject: [Spits] 1500 drivetrain for sale Message-ID: <47F8BA926EE94A63BC37D7C37BC05D22@maind> I am an active member of the Spridget users group but now and then run across a later model MG Midget parts car. I recently obtained a 1978 Midget that I had no idea even ran but after a few hours of checking out the car , it started right up. The clock shows 82,000 miles on her but who knows if that's correct or not. The motor runs extremely smooth and shows no signs of pushing smoke . Gauge shows 60 lbs pressure on start up and I am gravity feeding gas to keep her running. Has a Mallory duel point distributor installed as well. I am hoping someone on this list need a motor and or drivetrain for their Spitfire. Feel free to contact me directly frogeye at cox.net I am in Rhode Island Thanks Alan From buss3 at rogers.com Wed Oct 28 10:03:03 2009 From: buss3 at rogers.com (Grant Buss) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:03:03 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Overdrive part Message-ID: <95AD0BC98D9B43C4A6E47BE4DCCB23D3@FUNPLACE> My friend is looking for "a cam that drives the oil pump" on the overdrive for his late (square tail) GT6. Where are can he get one?? I know nothing about it. From rbgosling at googlemail.com Wed Oct 28 10:09:07 2009 From: rbgosling at googlemail.com (Richard Gosling) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:09:07 +0000 Subject: [Spits] Overdrive part In-Reply-To: <95AD0BC98D9B43C4A6E47BE4DCCB23D3@FUNPLACE> References: <95AD0BC98D9B43C4A6E47BE4DCCB23D3@FUNPLACE> Message-ID: <9f2527520910281009o7f83f535k1ee02d241443f218@mail.gmail.com> http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-GRID005719 Item 159505, cost #20 from Rimmer Bros in the UK. Should be available from any Triumph parts dealer, I would expect. Richard 2009/10/28 Grant Buss > My friend is looking for "a cam that drives the oil pump" on the overdrive > for > his late (square tail) GT6. Where are can he get one?? > I know nothing about it. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rbgosling at googlemail.com > > Spitfires at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires > > http://www.team.net/archive From jim.holmgren at corp.aol.com Wed Oct 28 10:13:36 2009 From: jim.holmgren at corp.aol.com (Holmgren, Jim) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:13:36 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Overdrive part In-Reply-To: <95AD0BC98D9B43C4A6E47BE4DCCB23D3@FUNPLACE> References: <95AD0BC98D9B43C4A6E47BE4DCCB23D3@FUNPLACE> Message-ID: <7E80337D35F4954BAAE76DAF1CBDB4A0026F053C@EVSDTC01.ad.office.aol.com> Hi Grant, I would check with John Esposito at Quantum Mechanics. http://www.quantumechanics.com/ Jim Jim NASS #302 NASS Club Secretary '75 Spitfire 1500 w/OD www.littlebluespitfire.com York, PA -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Grant Buss Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 1:03 PM To: spitfires-list Subject: [Spits] Overdrive part My friend is looking for "a cam that drives the oil pump" on the overdrive for his late (square tail) GT6. Where are can he get one?? I know nothing about it. From spitlist at cox.net Wed Oct 28 10:16:24 2009 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:16:24 -0700 Subject: [Spits] Overdrive part In-Reply-To: <95AD0BC98D9B43C4A6E47BE4DCCB23D3@FUNPLACE> References: <95AD0BC98D9B43C4A6E47BE4DCCB23D3@FUNPLACE> Message-ID: <792AF68ED65D4A3EA22EA397B2F751D4@joepentiumnew> I assume you are talking about the "A" type OD. If so, the Cam is part number 159505 and is available through Rimmer Brothers in the UK. It might be available elsewhere. Joe -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Grant Buss Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 10:03 AM To: spitfires-list Subject: [Spits] Overdrive part My friend is looking for "a cam that drives the oil pump" on the overdrive for his late (square tail) GT6. Where are can he get one?? I know nothing about it. You are subscribed as spitlist at cox.net Spitfires at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires http://www.team.net/archive From spitlist at cox.net Wed Oct 28 10:24:11 2009 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:24:11 -0700 Subject: [Spits] Overdrive part In-Reply-To: <95AD0BC98D9B43C4A6E47BE4DCCB23D3@FUNPLACE> References: <95AD0BC98D9B43C4A6E47BE4DCCB23D3@FUNPLACE> Message-ID: <4B6AC7A7B04F4EBFAD6487A50040CEE2@joepentiumnew> Correction: That should be :J-Type, not A-Type. I assume you are talking about the "A" type OD. If so, the Cam is part number 159505 and is available through Rimmer Brothers in the UK. It might be available elsewhere. Joe -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Grant Buss Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 10:03 AM To: spitfires-list Subject: [Spits] Overdrive part My friend is looking for "a cam that drives the oil pump" on the overdrive for his late (square tail) GT6. Where are can he get one?? I know nothing about it. You are subscribed as spitlist at cox.net Spitfires at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires http://www.team.net/archive From jeyoung_2 at yahoo.com Wed Oct 28 10:38:10 2009 From: jeyoung_2 at yahoo.com (John Young) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:38:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] Overdrive part In-Reply-To: <95AD0BC98D9B43C4A6E47BE4DCCB23D3@FUNPLACE> Message-ID: <7406.5017.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Have him try spitbits. http://www.spitbits.com/gt6/home.htm Nigel is very helpful so you may want to call him if you have questions. I have bought from him and used his help several times. John Young NASS# 528 Indiana '78 Spitfire '66 Spitfire '59 TR3A (getting body work) '59 TR10 ruuning, but not ready for the highway. --- On Wed, 10/28/09, Grant Buss wrote: From: Grant Buss Subject: [Spits] Overdrive part To: "spitfires-list" Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 1:03 PM My friend is looking for "a cam that drives the oil pump" on the overdrive for his late (square tail) GT6. Where are can he get one?? I know nothing about it. _______________________________________________ From buss3 at rogers.com Wed Oct 28 13:56:48 2009 From: buss3 at rogers.com (Grant Buss) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:56:48 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Overdrive part Message-ID: Sorry, it looks like I really don't know about it. Turns out it is for a "D" type overdrive. Thank you to all that answered. It is really great to see such a response. My original message My friend is looking for "a cam that drives the oil pump" on the overdrive for his late (square tail) GT6. Where are can he get one?? I know nothing about it. From spitlist at cox.net Wed Oct 28 15:36:02 2009 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:36:02 -0700 Subject: [Spits] Overdrive part In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8C97CBD4567E4D0B97FD8453A5BE7919@joepentiumnew> The oil pump cam for a D-Type OD is part number 513216. Nigel at SpitBits has one on the shelf. His phone number is 1-800-201-0494. Apparently this is not a part that is normally available so various distributors may or may not have them in stock. Joe -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Grant Buss Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 1:57 PM To: spitfires-list Subject: [Spits] Overdrive part Sorry, it looks like I really don't know about it. Turns out it is for a "D" type overdrive. Thank you to all that answered. It is really great to see such a response. My original message My friend is looking for "a cam that drives the oil pump" on the overdrive for his late (square tail) GT6. Where are can he get one?? I know nothing about it. You are subscribed as spitlist at cox.net Spitfires at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires http://www.team.net/archive From elliottr at rmi.net Thu Oct 29 17:39:37 2009 From: elliottr at rmi.net (Roger Elliott) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:39:37 -0500 Subject: [Spits] Spitfire 1500 differential In-Reply-To: <4ADB58E1.30204@rmi.net> References: <4ADB58E1.30204@rmi.net> Message-ID: <4AEA35C9.2090502@rmi.net> Hi Everyone, I wanted to let everyone know I got the bolt out. It was easier than I expected. I did manage to find an almost straight shot at the bolt to hit it with a drift. There was a brake line junction that was in a direct line with the bolt. Once I got the bolt started by hammering on it I was able to pry it out. Thanks every one for the advice! Now I have new questions. I am replacing the bushings\spacers in the leaf spring. According to what I have read there are 8 of them. I have only found 6 in the spring. I did not find any between the 2 longest springs which is where it seems there should be some. Should mine have had them there? Also, the Haynes manual indicates that the leaves should be lubricated with graphite grease. The only graphite lubricant I can find is what you use for locks. So I was planning on using Lithium grease. Does that make sense? Also where would I grease it, it seems the main points of contact are the bushings? Thanks, Roger Elliott Roger Elliott wrote: > > > I have the differential almost removed. But I have run into a > problem. I can't get the long bolt that runs through the rear mounts > out. I have the nut off, but I can't get the bolt to budge. I can't > figure out a way to get any leverage on it. The end of the bolt is > pointed so even if I could get to the end any punch I have would slide > off when I hit it with a hammer. Of course there is no straight shot > at it any way. > > Any suggestions on how to get that bolt out? > > Thanks, > Roger Elliott > _ From parrotthead01 at comcast.net Fri Oct 30 06:14:15 2009 From: parrotthead01 at comcast.net (Daniel Parrott) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:14:15 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Spitfire 1500 differential In-Reply-To: <4AEA35C9.2090502@rmi.net> References: <4ADB58E1.30204@rmi.net> <4AEA35C9.2090502@rmi.net> Message-ID: <00c001ca5962$e2c37d90$a84a78b0$@net> I only found 6 bushings when I rebuilt my rear spring, so I'm not sure where the other 2 belong. The other place for lithium grease would be between the leaves in the center where the spring leaves all are compressed together by the main bolt. Dan Parrott Savannah, Ga 1980 Triumph Spitfire "PJ" 1972/1978 Spit Six Project car "Joseph" -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Roger Elliott Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:40 PM To: spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spits] Spitfire 1500 differential Hi Everyone, I wanted to let everyone know I got the bolt out. It was easier than I expected. I did manage to find an almost straight shot at the bolt to hit it with a drift. There was a brake line junction that was in a direct line with the bolt. Once I got the bolt started by hammering on it I was able to pry it out. Thanks every one for the advice! Now I have new questions. I am replacing the bushings\spacers in the leaf spring. According to what I have read there are 8 of them. I have only found 6 in the spring. I did not find any between the 2 longest springs which is where it seems there should be some. Should mine have had them there? Also, the Haynes manual indicates that the leaves should be lubricated with graphite grease. The only graphite lubricant I can find is what you use for locks. So I was planning on using Lithium grease. Does that make sense? Also where would I grease it, it seems the main points of contact are the bushings? Thanks, Roger Elliott Roger Elliott wrote: > > > I have the differential almost removed. But I have run into a > problem. I can't get the long bolt that runs through the rear mounts > out. I have the nut off, but I can't get the bolt to budge. I can't > figure out a way to get any leverage on it. The end of the bolt is > pointed so even if I could get to the end any punch I have would slide > off when I hit it with a hammer. Of course there is no straight shot > at it any way. > > Any suggestions on how to get that bolt out? > > Thanks, > Roger Elliott > _ Spitfires at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires http://www.team.net/archive From gastul at roadrunner.com Fri Oct 30 13:27:18 2009 From: gastul at roadrunner.com (Greg Stull) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:27:18 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Rear Leaf Spring Message-ID: <3A6E9149FA69486FB3CEBC5D67A4B6E7@Stully> Note: I replied to Roger's post and the list, but it didn't get through. Or at least I didn't get it. So here it is again. If you get two messages that's why. Greg Hi, First let me tell you about me. I been on this list for a few years, but it was on my AOL account and I didn't check it that often. Now that I moved it to my other account I should be able to check it more often. I posted a few times couple of years ago, but mainly I just read them. I own a red 1978 Spitfire 1500. I owned it since April 05. It's been a blast owning it. I am going to start replacing my bushing in the leaf spring today. I am getting tried of people telling me my rear wheels are about to fall off. Hopefully the new disks (bushings) well help with that. I had a friend replace his leaf spring, it helped his car, but I hope to save a few bucks and just replace the bushings. I know that with that type of suspension it will always look like the wheels are leaning in. Hopefully not as bad. Has anybody replaced their disks and does it help? Roger asked if there was 8 bushings. From what I see there is only 6 bushings. I was wondering why received 8 also. Off to the garage to get started. I'll keep you posted on the progress. Greg 1978 Spitfire 1500 From jimmuller at rcn.com Fri Oct 30 15:54:21 2009 From: jimmuller at rcn.com (Jim Muller) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:54:21 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Rear Leaf Spring In-Reply-To: <3A6E9149FA69486FB3CEBC5D67A4B6E7@Stully> Message-ID: <4AEB365D.25368.3D88909D@localhost> On 30 Oct 2009 at 16:27, Greg Stull wrote: > I am getting tried of people telling me my rear wheels are about > to fall off. Many many years ago I replaced the spring in my Spitfire ('80 1500, which means it has the longer axle). For several reasons that seemed a good idea at the tim. I wasn't so worried about the obvious negative camber as about a noise. That's a long story, but the thought was that by reducing the u-joint angle a particular noise would diminish. Anyway, the new spring gave marginally less negative camber and less noise, but only for a very short while. I'd guess that within a few months or less the car was about the same as it had always been. Certainly the improvement lasted no more than a year. I still have the old spring, never had occasion to attempt taking it apart. Not really sure how. Don't know how many bushings it has, never had reason to look until now. The point is, don't expect too much. The beast is what it is. -- Jim Muller jimmuller at rcn.com '80 Spitfire, '70 GT6+ From doug at dougbraun.com Fri Oct 30 18:26:42 2009 From: doug at dougbraun.com (Doug Braun) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:26:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] Rear Leaf Spring In-Reply-To: <3A6E9149FA69486FB3CEBC5D67A4B6E7@Stully> Message-ID: <263325.73111.qm@web605.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Are these bushings the little rubber discs that are between the leaves at either end of the spring? Are they actually available? I have never taken my spring apart, and I always assumed that the bushings completely disintegrated years and years ago. How long could a piece of rubber or plastic last, being rubbed between two spring leaves like that? Doug Braun '72 Spit --- On Fri, 10/30/09, Greg Stull wrote: > From: Greg Stull > Subject: [Spits] Rear Leaf Spring > To: "Spitfire Group" > Date: Friday, October 30, 2009, 4:27 PM > Note: I replied to Roger's post and > the list, but it didn't get through. Or at > least I didn't get it. So here it is again. If you get two > messages that's > why. > > Greg From gastul at roadrunner.com Sat Oct 31 06:58:26 2009 From: gastul at roadrunner.com (Greg Stull) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 09:58:26 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Rear Leaf Spring References: <4AEB365D.25368.3D88909D@localhost> Message-ID: <1DEFBCC67B3A4796A27AD3E6B7B69C22@Stully> The point is, don't expect too much. The beast is what it is. Jim, That's the feeling I had from the beginning, but I'm going to give it a shot anyways. At least the spring will be clean and well lubricated. Got the spring out yesterday. Can't believe how easy that was. Didn't have any trouble with the bolts. Do have to replace the bolts that hold the leafs. That self lubricating system the Spitfire has comes in handy. Greg 1978 Spitfire 1500 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Muller" To: "Spitfire Group" Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [Spits] Rear Leaf Spring > On 30 Oct 2009 at 16:27, Greg Stull wrote: > >> I am getting tried of people telling me my rear wheels are about >> to fall off. > > Many many years ago I replaced the spring in my Spitfire ('80 1500, > which means it has the longer axle). For several reasons that seemed > a good idea at the tim. I wasn't so worried about the obvious > negative camber as about a noise. That's a long story, but the > thought was that by reducing the u-joint angle a particular noise > would diminish. > > Anyway, the new spring gave marginally less negative camber and less > noise, but only for a very short while. I'd guess that within a few > months or less the car was about the same as it had always been. > Certainly the improvement lasted no more than a year. I still have > the old spring, never had occasion to attempt taking it apart. Not > really sure how. Don't know how many bushings it has, never had > reason to look until now. > > The point is, don't expect too much. The beast is what it is. > > -- > Jim Muller > jimmuller at rcn.com > '80 Spitfire, '70 GT6+ > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gastul at roadrunner.com > > Spitfires at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires > > http://www.team.net/archive From gastul at roadrunner.com Sat Oct 31 07:08:32 2009 From: gastul at roadrunner.com (Greg Stull) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 10:08:32 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Rear Leaf Spring References: <263325.73111.qm@web605.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8133CB231F964897961FC6A0B10B0CE8@Stully> Are these bushings the little rubber discs that are between the leaves at either end of the spring? Yes Are they actually available? Found them on E-Bay. How long could a piece of rubber or plastic last, being rubbed between two spring leaves like that? Probably not that long, but I'm going to find out. Greg 1978 Spitfire 1500 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Braun" To: "Spitfire list" Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 9:26 PM Subject: Re: [Spits] Rear Leaf Spring > Are these bushings the little rubber discs that are between the leaves at > either end of the spring? Are they actually available? I have never > taken my spring apart, and I always assumed that the bushings completely > disintegrated years and years ago. How long could a piece of rubber or > plastic last, being rubbed between two spring leaves like that? > > Doug Braun > '72 Spit > > --- On Fri, 10/30/09, Greg Stull wrote: > >> From: Greg Stull >> Subject: [Spits] Rear Leaf Spring >> To: "Spitfire Group" >> Date: Friday, October 30, 2009, 4:27 PM >> Note: I replied to Roger's post and >> the list, but it didn't get through. Or at >> least I didn't get it. So here it is again. If you get two >> messages that's >> why. >> >> Greg > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gastul at roadrunner.com > > Spitfires at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires > > http://www.team.net/archive From spitlist at cox.net Sat Oct 31 07:49:56 2009 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 07:49:56 -0700 Subject: [Spits] Rear Leaf Spring In-Reply-To: <8133CB231F964897961FC6A0B10B0CE8@Stully> References: <263325.73111.qm@web605.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <8133CB231F964897961FC6A0B10B0CE8@Stully> Message-ID: I used some thick Teflon washers I found at Home Depot. They seem to last longer than rubber. Joe -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Stull Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 7:09 AM To: Spitfire list Subject: Re: [Spits] Rear Leaf Spring Are these bushings the little rubber discs that are between the leaves at either end of the spring? Yes Are they actually available? Found them on E-Bay. How long could a piece of rubber or plastic last, being rubbed between two spring leaves like that? Probably not that long, but I'm going to find out. Greg 1978 Spitfire 1500 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Braun" To: "Spitfire list" Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 9:26 PM Subject: Re: [Spits] Rear Leaf Spring > Are these bushings the little rubber discs that are between the leaves at > either end of the spring? Are they actually available? I have never > taken my spring apart, and I always assumed that the bushings completely > disintegrated years and years ago. How long could a piece of rubber or > plastic last, being rubbed between two spring leaves like that? > > Doug Braun > '72 Spit > > --- On Fri, 10/30/09, Greg Stull wrote: > >> From: Greg Stull >> Subject: [Spits] Rear Leaf Spring >> To: "Spitfire Group" >> Date: Friday, October 30, 2009, 4:27 PM >> Note: I replied to Roger's post and >> the list, but it didn't get through. Or at >> least I didn't get it. So here it is again. If you get two >> messages that's >> why. >> >> Greg > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gastul at roadrunner.com > > Spitfires at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires > > http://www.team.net/archive You are subscribed as spitlist at cox.net Spitfires at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires http://www.team.net/archive From elliottr at rmi.net Sat Oct 31 10:39:44 2009 From: elliottr at rmi.net (Roger Elliott) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:39:44 -0500 Subject: [Spits] Rear Leaf Spring In-Reply-To: <8133CB231F964897961FC6A0B10B0CE8@Stully> References: <263325.73111.qm@web605.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <8133CB231F964897961FC6A0B10B0CE8@Stully> Message-ID: <4AEC7660.1010003@rmi.net> Hi Everyone, I am not expecting a lot. However, I have wanted to check the rubber disks for some time. Since I had the differential out of the car, now seemed a perfect time to do it. I got the disks from Spit Bits - I am not sure if they are rubber or polyurethane. They seem harder than I would expect for rubber, but they don't have the shiny surface that polyurethane seems to have. Spits Bits order page said 8 required but they are sold per item not as a kit so you could order 6 if you want. Victoria British also carries them. I thought I had checked both of these vendors before without success, but apparently I overlooked the item. One more question, the Haynes manual says that the unstamped legs of the spring clamps go to the rear. My spring was replaced about 10 years ago and I don't see stamping on the spring clamps. Does the spring have a front and back? Thanks, Roger Elliott Greg Stull wrote: > Are these bushings the little rubber discs that are between the leaves > at either end of the spring? > Yes > > Are they actually available? > Found them on E-Bay. > > How long could a piece of rubber or plastic last, being rubbed between > two spring leaves like that? > Probably not that long, but I'm going to find out. > > Greg > 1978 Spitfire 1500 > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Braun" > To: "Spitfire list" > Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 9:26 PM > Subject: Re: [Spits] Rear Leaf Spring > > >> Are these bushings the little rubber discs that are between the >> leaves at either end of the spring? Are they actually available? I >> have never >> taken my spring apart, and I always assumed that the bushings >> completely disintegrated years and years ago. How long could a piece >> of rubber or plastic last, being rubbed between two spring leaves >> like that? >> >> Doug Braun >> '72 Spit >> >> --- On Fri, 10/30/09, Greg Stull wrote: >> >>> From: Greg Stull >>> Subject: [Spits] Rear Leaf Spring >>> To: "Spitfire Group" >>> Date: Friday, October 30, 2009, 4:27 PM >>> Note: I replied to Roger's post and >>> the list, but it didn't get through. Or at >>> least I didn't get it. So here it is again. If you get two >>> messages that's >>> why. >>> >>> Greg >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as gastul at roadrunner.com >> >> Spitfires at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as elliottr at rmi.net > > Spitfires at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires > > http://www.team.net/archive From StagByTriumph at triumphstagclub.org Sat Oct 31 11:41:26 2009 From: StagByTriumph at triumphstagclub.org (Glenn A. Merrell - TSN) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:41:26 -0600 Subject: [Spits] [stag] TTA - WHAT's NEXT?? Status of Uncle Jack - our last grand finale task In-Reply-To: <253112.56090.qm@web37904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <253112.56090.qm@web37904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4AEC84D6.8020305@triumphstagclub.org> Bert, Thanks for the input, and keep suggestions coming. BJ has not been interested in supporting our charities, been there, tried that twice. BJ has a list of their own special charities they promote and support and that is their position. They will be glad to auction the car as any other seller, No discount on buyer/seller/auctioneer premiums, etc. Do you (or anyone) have contacts at BJ that might change their mind - maybe some people who know people? Direct them to the TTA web site! Maybe now after the drive is over and publicized and the web site is up and running again they will pay attention and support it. I could easily get UJ to Phoenix for the January / February auction though if they would put it in the preferred/elite auction tent and I could get some VIP passes to keep it all pristine looking, put all the magnets back on, etc.. Maybe third time is a charmer. We also could not get Hagerty Insurance to be interested in sponsoring UJ's drive either, even though most of the Triumphs that participated in the caravans are Hagerty customers! Part of that disconnect was Chuck Kittelson suddenly passing in July who was my main publicity and corporate sponsor guru for the TTA drive and was working with sponsors. We did have Kruse interested, but they are in financial straights with pending bankruptcy so the decision not to use them was made - and we could not bet the car to Hershey in time from SLO. Chuck Kittelson had two casinos in Vegas interested in paying a cool $1million for the car but the economy took a dump as we were kicking off the drive. I will be pursuing this avenue again as we ramp up the auction site and publicity. For coverage on national TV, John Macartney was interviewed on many local TV stations, many local radio stations and many newspapers and car magazines over the course of the drive. Press releases were sent to all the major broadcast medias, none on the national ones were were interested. As an example, our local newspaper car guy at the Denver Post was more enamored with the 4 supercars (google Bertone Mantide and revin' on earth) spending tens of thousands in costs to drive them coast to coast with a gaggle of mechanics and semi's full of parts and a mobile service garage, for the sole purpose of personal satisfaction of one the drivers millionaire Dan Watkins, and his 3 other buddies, than a cause covering all of North America traveling through Denver to raise awareness and charity money for PTSD. If you got it, flaunt it I suppose. -- Glenn A. Merrell TTA North American Drive Coordinator 2009 www.triumphtransamerica.org Skype,Twitter,FaceBook: StagByTriumph Bert Saxby wrote: > Why not take it to Barrett Jackson? I'm sure they would get on the charity > bandwagon and you almost never see a Triumph roll across the stage. From doug at dougbraun.com Sat Oct 31 12:12:37 2009 From: doug at dougbraun.com (Doug Braun) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] Rear Leaf Spring In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <963453.53346.qm@web602.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> What holds them im place? Don't the stock bushings have some sort of nipple that fits into a hole drilled on one of the leaves? Doug --- On Sat, 10/31/09, Joe Curry wrote: > From: Joe Curry > Subject: Re: [Spits] Rear Leaf Spring > To: "'Greg Stull'" , "'Spitfire list'" > Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 10:49 AM > I used some thick Teflon washers I > found at Home Depot. They seem to last > longer than rubber. > > Joe From gastul at roadrunner.com Sat Oct 31 15:25:02 2009 From: gastul at roadrunner.com (Greg Stull) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:25:02 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Rear Leaf Spring References: <963453.53346.qm@web602.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <68796BE70CC4431EB718BC0375703F94@Stully> The ones I got has the nipple on the disk just like the rubber disks. Greg 1978 Spitfire 1500 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Braun" To: "'Spitfire list'" ; "Joe Curry" Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [Spits] Rear Leaf Spring > What holds them im place? Don't the stock bushings have some sort of > nipple > that fits into a hole drilled on one of the leaves? > > Doug > > --- On Sat, > 10/31/09, Joe Curry wrote: > >> From: Joe Curry > >> Subject: Re: [Spits] Rear Leaf Spring >> To: "'Greg > Stull'" , "'Spitfire list'" > >> Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 10:49 AM >> I used some thick Teflon > washers I >> found at Home Depot. They seem to last >> longer than rubber. >> >> > Joe > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gastul at roadrunner.com > > Spitfires at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires > > http://www.team.net/archive From parrotthead01 at comcast.net Sat Oct 31 15:50:39 2009 From: parrotthead01 at comcast.net (Daniel Parrott) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:50:39 -0400 Subject: [Spits] GAZ Front Shock Installation Message-ID: <000901ca5a7c$9151eb70$b3f5c250$@net> In my rebuild of my Spit Six, I plan to upgrade the shocks all around to GAZ from Rimmer Brothers. I'm ready to install the front shocks, and I have a question to the listers. The front shocks have a bottom plate (that's barely wide enough to hold the front spring) and a remove able plate (crown shaped with a slot on one side) that is set above the bumper stop. I'm thinking that this upper plate is not required for a Triumph Spitfire/GT-6. Any thoughts? Any experiences? Dan Parrott Savannah, Ga 1980 Triumph Spitfire "PJ" 1972/1978 Spit Six Project car "Joseph" From elliottr at rmi.net Sat Oct 31 16:19:05 2009 From: elliottr at rmi.net (Roger Elliott) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:19:05 -0500 Subject: [Spits] Bushings Message-ID: <4AECC5E9.9030202@rmi.net> Hi, I am still working on my differential and leaf spring. I am trying to replace the mounting bushings on both, but cannot get them out. They are the ones with a external metal sleeve, rubber then an internal metal sleeve. Both the differential and spring are out of the car. On the spring I have tried using a bolt - socket that that bushing will fit into - bushing - socket about the same size as the bushing then a nut and tightening it. I didn't get anywhere. I don't have a socket large enough for the differential bushing to slide into. Any suggestions on how to get them out? Thanks, Roger From elliottr at rmi.net Sat Oct 31 16:20:17 2009 From: elliottr at rmi.net (Roger Elliott) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:20:17 -0500 Subject: [Spits] Rear Leaf Spring In-Reply-To: <963453.53346.qm@web602.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <963453.53346.qm@web602.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4AECC631.7090006@rmi.net> The ones I got were just solid disks about the diameter of the indentation on the leaves. Roger Doug Braun wrote: > What holds them im place? Don't the stock bushings have some sort of nipple > that fits into a hole drilled on one of the leaves? > > Doug > > --- On Sat, > 10/31/09, Joe Curry wrote: > > >> From: Joe Curry >> > > >> Subject: Re: [Spits] Rear Leaf Spring >> To: "'Greg >> > Stull'" , "'Spitfire list'" > >> Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 10:49 AM >> I used some thick Teflon >> > washers I > >> found at Home Depot. They seem to last >> longer than rubber. >> >> >> > Joe > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as elliottr at rmi.net > > Spitfires at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires > > http://www.team.net/archive From parrotthead01 at comcast.net Sat Oct 31 17:11:37 2009 From: parrotthead01 at comcast.net (Daniel Parrott) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:11:37 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Rear Leaf Spring In-Reply-To: <4AECC631.7090006@rmi.net> References: <963453.53346.qm@web602.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4AECC631.7090006@rmi.net> Message-ID: <001101ca5a87$e1197ff0$a34c7fd0$@net> Mine, also. Dan Parrott Savannah, Ga 1980 Triumph Spitfire "PJ" 1972/1978 Spit Six Project car "Joseph" -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Roger Elliott Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 7:20 PM To: 'Spitfire list' Subject: Re: [Spits] Rear Leaf Spring The ones I got were just solid disks about the diameter of the indentation on the leaves. Roger Doug Braun wrote: > What holds them im place? Don't the stock bushings have some sort of nipple > that fits into a hole drilled on one of the leaves? > > Doug > > --- On Sat, > 10/31/09, Joe Curry wrote: > > >> From: Joe Curry >> > > >> Subject: Re: [Spits] Rear Leaf Spring >> To: "'Greg >> > Stull'" , "'Spitfire list'" > >> Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 10:49 AM >> I used some thick Teflon >> > washers I > >> found at Home Depot. They seem to last >> longer than rubber. >> >> >> > Joe > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as elliottr at rmi.net > > Spitfires at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires > > http://www.team.net/archive Spitfires at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires http://www.team.net/archive From ZoboHerald at aol.com Sat Oct 31 19:59:12 2009 From: ZoboHerald at aol.com (ZoboHerald at aol.com) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:59:12 EDT Subject: [Spits] Bushings Message-ID: In a message dated 10/31/2009 7:36:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, elliottr at rmi.net writes: On the spring I have tried using a bolt - socket that that bushing will fit into - bushing - socket about the same size as the bushing then a nut and tightening it. I didn't get anywhere. I don't have a socket large enough for the differential bushing to slide into. Any suggestions on how to get them out?==AM== I haven't done a spring eye bushing, but I have done the diff. bushings. Easiest (?) way seems to be to fire up the old propane torch to burn out the rubber part. Then use a hacksaw or (carefully) a Sawz-All to cut through most of the inside of that outer sleeve, after which you should be able to hammer out the sleeve. New ones will drive in rather more easily. --Andy Mace *Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet? *Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph Herald engine with wings. -- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22) Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph Register: _http://www.vtr.org_ (http://www.vtr.org/) Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald Database: _http://triumph-herald.us_ (http://triumph-herald.us/) From spitlist at cox.net Sat Oct 31 20:00:19 2009 From: spitlist at cox.net (spitlist at cox.net) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:00:19 -0700 Subject: [Spits] Rear Leaf Spring In-Reply-To: <963453.53346.qm@web602.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20091031230019.9Q9W3.81640.imail@fed1rmwml36> The springs are lashed together by those clamping bolts and that keep the washers within the confines of the dimples presses into the spring leaves. Joe ---- Doug Braun wrote: > What holds them im place? Don't the stock bushings have some sort of nipple that fits into a hole drilled on one of the leaves? Doug --- On Sat, 10/31/09, Joe Curry wrote: > From: Joe Curry > Subject: Re: [Spits] Rear Leaf Spring > To: "'Greg Stull'" , "'Spitfire list'" > Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 10:49 AM > I used some thick Teflon washers I > found at Home Depot.B They seem to last > longer than rubber. > > Joe From spitlist at cox.net Sat Oct 31 20:03:55 2009 From: spitlist at cox.net (spitlist at cox.net) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:03:55 -0700 Subject: [Spits] Bushings In-Reply-To: <4AECC5E9.9030202@rmi.net> Message-ID: <20091031230355.RW63D.81656.imail@fed1rmwml36> You may have t resort to using a torch to burn the rubber away and knock the outer steel sleeve out using a cold chisel. Joe ---- Roger Elliott wrote: > Hi, > > I am still working on my differential and leaf spring. I am trying to > replace the mounting bushings on both, but cannot get them out. > > They are the ones with a external metal sleeve, rubber then an internal > metal sleeve. Both the differential and spring are out of the car. > > On the spring I have tried using a bolt - socket that that bushing will > fit into - bushing - socket about the same size as the bushing then a > nut and tightening it. I didn't get anywhere. I don't have a socket > large enough for the differential bushing to slide into. > > Any suggestions on how to get them out? > > Thanks, > Roger > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as spitlist at cox.net > > Spitfires at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires > > http://www.team.net/archive