From standardtriumph at btinternet.com  Sat May  2 05:29:32 2009
From: standardtriumph at btinternet.com (John Macartney)
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 12:29:32 +0100
Subject: [Spits] TTACD Website updates
Message-ID: <01DD9E52E9604C68BFD1DC05543F6487@Bevan>

Hi, Everyone

I'm going to be taking a few days off this coming week, so won't be at my keyboard to answer queries 
any of you may have about developments for Triumph Trans-America.
There have been some updates on the site that you may not have noticed.
1. The Stag.
Joe Pawlak and the Worshipful Company of Busted Knucklers at ISOA have worked truly wondrous things 
in bringing 'uncle jack' back into running order. Just LOOK at that paint finish!!!! At the time of 
writing, while we don't have the very latest pix of the car with the lights and grille fitted (with 
all the stuff that goes behind them) I'm sure you'll agree this car is amazing.
2. The Route page
Has been updated several times as news comes in from the Clubs about the plans they have for taking 
part in the event. For those of you in Florida and especially within easy reach of Daytona Beach, 
there are more comprehensive details about the START itself and what will be happening when things 
get underway on 27th June.
3. Media Coverage.
It's also worth mentioning that interest is building in the UK - even though the event won't be 
taking place there. Several UK clubs in Rotary International have also most generously pledged money 
for all THREE non-profits which I feel is not only very generous but most commendable as well, 
because many organisations and individuals only tend to support what's going on in the own 
backyards. There's also additional coverage from a substantial regional newspaper and the link to 
the article in question - published on 1st May, is already on the Home Page of the site.

In less than two months, we'll be on our way!

Cheers, Jonmac


Originator of The Triumph Trans-America Charity Drive 2009
www.triumphtransamerica.org.uk

An event for full TRIUMPH Enthusiast participation 

From scott.hall at comcast.net  Sat May  2 07:58:01 2009
From: scott.hall at comcast.net (scott.hall at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 13:58:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spits] TTACD Website updates
In-Reply-To: <47582063.4211601241271679010.JavaMail.root@sz0146a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <442114968.4215391241272681494.JavaMail.root@sz0146a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

john, 

it looks like you'll be driving right through tallahassee, florida. you should consider stopping and visiting with the local triumph club. I don't see much of them--they're a tr club and spitfires aren't really deserving--but they're triumph people nonetheless. they'd probably be an interesting stop. 

scott 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Macartney" <standardtriumph at btinternet.com> 
To: triumphs at autox.team.net, spitfires at autox.team.net, stag at digest.net, "6-Pack" <6pack at autox.team.net>, "Triumph Trans-America" <triumphtrans-americainfo at triumphtransamerica.org.uk> 
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2009 7:29:32 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [Spits] TTACD Website updates 

Hi, Everyone 

I'm going to be taking a few days off this coming week, so won't be at my keyboard to answer queries 
any of you may have about developments for Triumph Trans-America. 
There have been some updates on the site that you may not have noticed. 
1. The Stag. 
Joe Pawlak and the Worshipful Company of Busted Knucklers at ISOA have worked truly wondrous things 
in bringing 'uncle jack' back into running order. Just LOOK at that paint finish!!!! At the time of 
writing, while we don't have the very latest pix of the car with the lights and grille fitted (with 
all the stuff that goes behind them) I'm sure you'll agree this car is amazing. 
2. The Route page 
Has been updated several times as news comes in from the Clubs about the plans they have for taking 
part in the event. For those of you in Florida and especially within easy reach of Daytona Beach, 
there are more comprehensive details about the START itself and what will be happening when things 
get underway on 27th June. 
3. Media Coverage. 
It's also worth mentioning that interest is building in the UK - even though the event won't be 
taking place there. Several UK clubs in Rotary International have also most generously pledged money 
for all THREE non-profits which I feel is not only very generous but most commendable as well, 
because many organisations and individuals only tend to support what's going on in the own 
backyards. There's also additional coverage from a substantial regional newspaper and the link to 
the article in question - published on 1st May, is already on the Home Page of the site. 

In less than two months, we'll be on our way! 

Cheers, Jonmac 


Originator of The Triumph Trans-America Charity Drive 2009 
www.triumphtransamerica.org.uk 

An event for full TRIUMPH Enthusiast participation 
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From doug at dougbraun.com  Sat May  2 14:47:18 2009
From: doug at dougbraun.com (Doug Braun)
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 13:47:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spits] Today's Britfest in Succasunna NJ
Message-ID: <885940.51546.qm@web607.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I was at today's Britfest in Succasunna, NJ:

    http://www.mgccnj.org/flyers/britfest_09_registration.pdf

It was supposed to be rainy, and the turnout was not so great (maybe 60% of a really good year), but I was the ONLY Spitfire who showed up!  There were at least 25 MGBs, and maybe half a dozen TR6s.  I would guess about 100 cars in all.  There was exactly one GT6 (a very nice restoration), and also one nicely restored TR7.  It was told that my somewhat tired-looking Spit would have received the second-place trophy in the Spitfire/GT6 class by default, but I had to leave before they announced the awards.

Doug

From paulfmeyer at msn.com  Tue May  5 11:53:36 2009
From: paulfmeyer at msn.com (Paul Meyer)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 13:53:36 -0400
Subject: [Spits] Exhaust Manifold '78
Message-ID: <COL102-W62FCEB511D8E5D4E359354CD690@phx.gbl>

Getting my '78 spitfire 1500 ready for spring and the exhaust manifold is
cracked - again.



Anyone have advice on replacing this item?  I put a Weber DGV on several years
ago, and figured I'd replace the exhaust manifold eventually.  Seems like the
Stainless 4 into 2 into 1 header is a good option, but fitting it is
challenging I've heard.



I'd prefer to use another cast iron exhaust manifold, but can I get one
without all the threaded ports for the EGR, etc?  does an earlier year
manifold direct swap?



Seems to crack at stress point above the mount to the catalytic converter.

BTW, my converter is cosmetic - last time i had it apart, it looked like the
previous owner had filled the Cat with lava rocks from a gas grill.



Two questions - first, does anyone have a stock exhaust manifold for sale that
would fit?  Second, anyone have any web pages showing thier efforts at
replacing the manifold?



Paul F. Meyer Home Phone: 781-551-8574 Cell Phone: 781-801-3170 e-mail:
paulfmeyer at msn.com



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From ccrisenbery at fellerfinch.com  Tue May  5 12:49:43 2009
From: ccrisenbery at fellerfinch.com (Chris Crisenbery)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 14:49:43 -0400
Subject: [Spits] 1969 GT6 Plus for sale
Message-ID: <sa00521c.056@FFA_MAUMEE.fellerfinch.com>

If anybody is looking for a project or parts car I would appreciate you
letting them know about my GT6.

I bought a 1969 GT6 plus last year with the idea I would turn it into a
vintage racecar in my spare time...you know the story, I've got a TIG,
MIG, rollcage bender, years of Triumph racing knowledge, etc....how hard
can it be! 

The key that I forgot was spare time! I haven't had time to even prep
my SCCA Spit and now the wife wants to put in an inground pool this
summer! 

PS - Anybody interested in a fiberglass pool I am a dealer for Leisure
Pools USA and can make you a great deal...sorry for the plug!

Anyways I would like to sell it. 

Details: 

No Title - I didn't care I was going to race it...I could probably come
up with some paper for a Spitfire if necessary. 

Body - floors, boot, doors and 95% exterior pretty good. Rockers and
bonnet by turn signals not so good....I may have a spit bonnet we could
cut good parts out of? Car originally came from down south so it isn't a
rust bucket....just a bucket! 

Engine- is complete and did run as the previous owner was messing with
the carbs...does come with an extra set of carbs and some other misc.
spares. 

Interior - seats look decent, but the rest is a mess....again I didn't
really care as I was going to strip it clean anyways. I believe all the
instruments are with the car in a bucket..but I haven't checked...again
we could probably snag anything thats missing from my Spitfire
stockpile. 

I have $650 into it and would like $650 out of it. Just the tranny and
front suspension is worth nearly that to a vintage or SCCA racer. 

I do have some pictures and the car is located near Jackson, Michigan.
Delivery is possible for a little extra. 

Contact Info. - Chris Crisenbery 
work p/n (517) 783-0710 
home p/n (517) 789-8010 
e-mail: spitracer1296 at yahoo.com 


___________________________

Christopher E. Crisenbery, P.E.
Feller, Finch & Associates, Inc.
2797 Spring Arbor Rd., Suite B
Jackson, MI 49203
p/n (517) 783-0710
fax (517) 783-0711



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From cwn74 at aol.com  Tue May  5 17:54:27 2009
From: cwn74 at aol.com (Clark W. Nicholls)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 19:54:27 -0400
Subject: [Spits] Exhaust Manifold '78
In-Reply-To: <COL102-W62FCEB511D8E5D4E359354CD690@phx.gbl>
References: <COL102-W62FCEB511D8E5D4E359354CD690@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000f01c9cddc$d36dd6e0$7a4984a0$@com>

Hi Paul,

I have at least one cast manifold, probably early 70's 1500 or 1300.
No air ports.

Presently lost in the piles, but when you get things figured out get in
touch, I'm presently shuffling my parts around and should have them located
in a week or so.

I'm in Lee, MA if you want to come out or I'll be at NHMS in a couple of
weeks for the VRG event.

Clark
Clark W. Nicholls
1972 Stag 1974 Spitfire (and 2 rusty GT6's needing restoration)
"Reality, it's not what you think."

From growe58 at hotmail.com  Tue May  5 19:59:22 2009
From: growe58 at hotmail.com (Greg Rowe)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 21:59:22 -0400
Subject: [Spits] Exhaust Manifold '78
In-Reply-To: <COL102-W62FCEB511D8E5D4E359354CD690@phx.gbl>
References: <COL102-W62FCEB511D8E5D4E359354CD690@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU117-W17476343892A795C2E70F9AA660@phx.gbl>

An earlier 1500 (or even 1300 I believe) manifold will bolt right

up to the engine but you have to replace the exhaust pipe as

well.  The cat won't bolt to the older manifold as the bolt

pattern is smaller.



If you decide to go with another cat manifold make sure you

have the brace on the pipe at the bellhousing.  This helps support

the extra weight of the cat and prevent the cracking (although

no guarantees).



Changing the manifold is fairly straightforward although tedious.

The intake and exhaust manifolds come off together and you

should replace the gasket.  The bolts underneath the manifold

are the worst as you can only turn them about a half of a flat

at a time with an open end wrench.  Do them first so at least

you don't have the weight of the manifold making them even

tougher to turn.



When reassembling, be careful that the manifold clamps don't

spin out of position as you tighten the bolts.



Sorry I cant help with parts.



Good luck!



Greg Rowe

> From: paulfmeyer at msn.com
> To: spitfires at autox.team.net
> Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 13:53:36 -0400
> Subject: [Spits] Exhaust Manifold '78
>
> Getting my '78 spitfire 1500 ready for spring and the exhaust manifold is
> cracked - again.
>
>
>
> Anyone have advice on replacing this item? I put a Weber DGV on several
years
> ago, and figured I'd replace the exhaust manifold eventually. Seems like
the
> Stainless 4 into 2 into 1 header is a good option, but fitting it is
> challenging I've heard.
>
>
>
> I'd prefer to use another cast iron exhaust manifold, but can I get one
> without all the threaded ports for the EGR, etc? does an earlier year
> manifold direct swap?
>
>
>
> Seems to crack at stress point above the mount to the catalytic converter.
>
> BTW, my converter is cosmetic - last time i had it apart, it looked like
the
> previous owner had filled the Cat with lava rocks from a gas grill.
>
>
>
> Two questions - first, does anyone have a stock exhaust manifold for sale
that
> would fit? Second, anyone have any web pages showing thier efforts at
> replacing the manifold?
>
>
>
> Paul F. Meyer Home Phone: 781-551-8574 Cell Phone: 781-801-3170 e-mail:
> paulfmeyer at msn.com
>

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From mark at bradakis.com  Wed May  6 00:27:03 2009
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Wed,  6 May 2009 00:27:03 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [Spits] Team.Net status
Message-ID: <20090506062703.D70562E092@bradakis.com>

Yes, there have been problems with the Team.Net mailing
lists, related web pages, FTP stuff and such.  And it ain't
over yet.  It should all be fine by next week, though.

The current ISP providing Team.Net connectivity along with
several other domains and network related services is Qwest.
Saturday, May 2nd, they cut off my network access.  They have
been recieving complaints about "malicious activity" from one
of my servers.  It has happened before.  The first time I
actually spent many hours on the phone over a period of
several days and found out the nature of the "malicious
activity."

Someone too lazy or too stupid to click on the 'unsubscribe'
link for one of the mailing lists was flagging all incoming
Team.Net emails as spam.  Once I finally managed to penetrate
deep into the Qwest support to find someone with more than a
single digit IQ, it took me just a few seconds to remove the
braindead A-hole from the lists to which they subscribed.

It happened again a while back, again I took the time and effort
to finally get to the root of the problem and removed the whining
piece of human debris from the appropriate list.

This time I've had enough.  It is so frustrating to have to
go through their entire little debugging script *every time*
I talk to a new person about it:


Them:  What operating system are you running?

Me:  Unix, FreeBSD 6.2

Them:  No, I mean are you running Vista, XP or Windows 98?

Me:  Like I said, I'm running Unix, FreeBSD 6.2.  I am NOT
     running Windows, just like I told all the other ...



You know, a lot of people who just use computers as a basic
appliance would not understand the details of that conversation,
they have no need to.  But tech support people working for a
major company like Qwest?  How do people that incompetent get
through the first job interview?  Do they have anyone on their
staff who can even *spell* Unix??

At any rate, the problem that Qwest claims I have is still
not resolved, they will most likely once again cut off my
network access soon.  As I said, I've had enough.

On Friday, May 8th I will be changing from Qwest to XMission,
located here in Salt Lake, for Team.Net ISP service.  The
changeover will result in Team.Net services being unavailable
for a few days.  IP addresses, nameserver data, etc. will take
a day or two or so to percolate through the network.

So expect sporadic service over the next few days, but it should
all settle down by early next week.

Thank you for your patience.

mjb.

From s1500 at comcast.net  Wed May  6 12:28:58 2009
From: s1500 at comcast.net (s1500)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 13:28:58 -0500
Subject: [Spits] Exhaust Manifold '78
Message-ID: <4A01D6EA.7080805@comcast.net>

What I did for a Weber DGV + 2+4+1 exhaust was shave off(ie grind) a bit 
of the intake manifold(where they touch) until I was able to slip a 
piece of paper between the two. Before that, the manifold got slightly 
pushed up enough to let too much air in there and thus the car wouldn't 
idle unless I gunned the  engine. Easing up the manifolds touching each 
other resolved it just fine.

From StagByTriumph at tscusa.org  Sat May  9 21:00:30 2009
From: StagByTriumph at tscusa.org (Glenn A. Merrell)
Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 21:00:30 -0600
Subject: [Spits] Triumph Trans America Charity Drive 2009 - Stag Unveiling
	Event
Message-ID: <4A06434E.5020302@tscusa.org>

Triumph Trans America Charity Drive 2009 -  STTAG Stag Unveiling Event

On 31 May 2009, the STTAG (1973 Triumph Stag) that has been the subject 
of intense restoration over the past 14 months for the Triumph Trans 
America Charity Drive 2009 - that many of you have contributed toward 
the restoration will be rolled out in an unveiling ceremony in 
Burlington, Illinois hosted by the Illinois Sports Owners Association 
and the Triumph Stag Club USA. 
(see http://www.triumphtransamerica.org.uk/).

This Unveiling is a limited by invitation only event due to the small 
size of the unveiling venue.

We would however, like to invite the British Car Media to document this 
historic, first of its kind event rollout.

As a reminder, the start of the drive begins at the HQ or Grass Roots 
Motorsports on the 27th of June in Holly Hill, Florida outside of 
Daytona Beach.  http://classicmotorsports.net/events/494/
The start of the drive and  is open to the public, bring your classic 
car and provide support for John Macartney and this national drive.  
Feel free to caravan along with John as long and as far as you want, 
however you need to make your own travel details.

If you are able to attend the unveiling event as a media reporter or 
know some Sports car media who can attend, please contact me by email 
below so we can plan for your presence.

Cheers!!

-- 
Glenn Merrell
TTA Drive North American Coordinator
Chairman, Triumph Stag Club USA (2007-2009)
http://www.tscusa.org
mailto:Chairman at tscusa.org

-- 
Glenn A. Merrell
Chairman, Triumph Stag Club USA (2007-2009)
The best trophies are miles on the odometer, stone chips in the paint, dead bugs on the windshield!

From wbmcleod at gmail.com  Sat May  9 23:11:00 2009
From: wbmcleod at gmail.com (William McLeod)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 22:11:00 -0700
Subject: [Spits] Spit Six found for resale
Message-ID: <A5141B44-F07B-453F-B399-F235F7DD74F2@gmail.com>

Tonight we bought a 75 Spitfire converted to a GT6 cylinder car.  It  
is a desert car, essentially unrusted except for surface rust (and  
probably a pinhole or 2) on the driver's floor, straight, partially  
sanded down, needs interior restoration.  We should have it running  
this next week.  No overdrive.  It came with a steel hardtop which  
will also be for sale.  I don't have enough familiarity with this  
breed to know what to ask.  Any thoughts out there?  I will have  
pictures up in a Picasa album later tonight if anyone is interested.   
Thanks, Bill

From tedtsimx at bright.net  Mon May 11 12:01:51 2009
From: tedtsimx at bright.net (Ted Schumacher)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 14:01:51 -0400
Subject: [Spits] Import Carlisle
Message-ID: <4A08680F.2000204@bright.net>

Last call for parts to Import Carlisle.

Hello list. Sorry to bug you but if anyone needs something brought to 
Import Carlisle, we need to know.  Loading on Tuesday.  Leaving very 
early Thursday morning and arriving Carlisle late afternoon. Our space 
numbers are E64 and E65.   Thanks, Ted

-- 
Ted Schumacher
tedtsimx at bright.net
http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com
108 S. Jefferson St.
Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877
Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.)
Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada)
Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022

From cwn74 at aol.com  Wed May 13 18:44:11 2009
From: cwn74 at aol.com (Clark W. Nicholls)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 20:44:11 -0400
Subject: [Spits] 1960 Corvair ad - Lime Rock
Message-ID: <002c01c9d42d$19240e60$4b6c2b20$@com>

Any old timers out there? 

Wondering what Lime Rock looked like in 1960?

 

My friend Trevor found this video on YouTube, watch it, you won't regret it!

It should generate some questions for John Fitch!

 

 <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7jtf9YJEh0&NR>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7jtf9YJEh0&NR 

 

Clark

Clark W. Nicholls

1972 Stag 1974 Spitfire (and 2 rusty GT6's needing restoration)

"Reality, it's not what you think."

From Herald948 at aol.com  Wed May 13 20:56:50 2009
From: Herald948 at aol.com (Herald948 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 22:56:50 EDT
Subject: [Spits] [Fot] 1960 Corvair ad - Lime Rock
Message-ID: <ca6.460e571d.373ce272@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/13/2009 9:07:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
cwn74 at aol.com writes:

My  friend Trevor found this video on YouTube, watch it, you won't regret  
it!

It should generate some questions for John  Fitch!

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7jtf9YJEh0&NR>
==AM==
Way cool, Clark! Almost makes me want another Corvair (had one briefly,  
eons ago).
 
Sound wasn't very good; I don't know if that was the film or my cheap  
speakers. But the announcer sounded to me like the immortal Fred Foy (also  
announcer for Dick Cavett and the Lone Ranger radio show)!?  

--Andy  Mace

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*Man: Well, no ... It's not so  much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph 
Herald engine with wings.
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Triumph 10 /  Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph 
Register: _http://www.vtr.org_ (http://www.vtr.org/) 

Check out the North  American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph 
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From sagreenwood at att.net  Sun May 17 22:20:33 2009
From: sagreenwood at att.net (Stuart Greenwood)
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 21:20:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spits] Door mirrors and A post seals
Message-ID: <359755.5835.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I got a set of the Tex door mirrors from TRF. I really don't like the way they
attached to the door or the way the  mirror stem attaches to the mounting
plinth.  I can overcome the first problem by bolting through the door metal
rather than using the plastic plugs but I can't really modify the way the stem
mirror mounts. Has anybody with  has these mirror had a issue with the mirror
stem either falling off the plinth or being inadvertenly knocked off by a
passerby? The mounting seems very weak to me.
All the catalogues show a seal which goes around the entire door  opening
right up to the top of the A post. Then there is a separate A post seal. The
seals I got have pretty big round hollow rubber seals. When I put the door
opening seal on it touches the window glass more or less rendering the A post
seal superfluous. Are you supposed to cut off the rubber seal from the door
opening seal where is goes up the A post and then put the A post seal on.
There sure doesn't look ike there is room for both
I appreciate any advice
 
Stuart Greenwood
71 MKIV Spit and 71 MKI Stag
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Stuart a Greenwood
71 Mk IV Spitfire, 71Mk 1 Stag

From doug at dougbraun.com  Mon May 18 01:07:30 2009
From: doug at dougbraun.com (Doug Braun)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 00:07:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spits] Door mirrors and A post seals
Message-ID: <109391.85962.qm@web603.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

On my car, the edge of the window class goes sort of between the two seals.
This arrangement works well, helping to keep the glass from vibrating in and
out.

I replaced the longer seal about 15 years ago, and the shorter seal is
original (but getting a bit ratty).

Doug Braun
'72 Spit



--- On Mon,
5/18/09, Stuart Greenwood <sagreenwood at att.net> wrote:

> From: Stuart
Greenwood <sagreenwood at att.net>
> Subject: [Spits] Door mirrors and A post
seals
> To: spitfires at autox.team.net
> Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 12:20 AM
>
I got a set of the Tex door mirrors
> from TRF. I really don't like the way
they
> attached to the door or the way the  mirror stem
> attaches to the
mounting
> plinth.  I can overcome the first problem by bolting
> through the
door metal
> rather than using the plastic plugs but I can't really
> modify
the way the stem
> mirror mounts. Has anybody with  has these mirror had
> a
issue with the mirror
> stem either falling off the plinth or being
inadvertenly
> knocked off by a
> passerby? The mounting seems very weak to
me.
> All the catalogues show a seal which goes around the entire
> door 
opening
> right up to the top of the A post. Then there is a separate
> A post
seal. The
> seals I got have pretty big round hollow rubber seals. When
> I
put the door
> opening seal on it touches the window glass more or less
>
rendering the A post
> seal superfluous. Are you supposed to cut off the
rubber
> seal from the door
> opening seal where is goes up the A post and
then put the A
> post seal on.
> There sure doesn't look ike there is room for
both
> I appreciate any advice
>  
> Stuart Greenwood
> 71 MKIV Spit and 71
MKI Stag
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
> Stuart a Greenwood
> 71 Mk IV
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From StagByTriumph at tscusa.org  Mon May 18 11:37:36 2009
From: StagByTriumph at tscusa.org (Glenn A. Merrell)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 11:37:36 -0600
Subject: [Spits] [stag] TTA Stag Status - May 17 - Exquisite!
Message-ID: <4A119CE0.3070906@tscusa.org>

Ladies and Gentlemen of the ISOA,

Exquisite!

A car, a Triumph Stag, starting over one year ago that went from fully 
assembled pile of rusted and dented parts, through complete nut and bolt 
disassembly, to individual part restoration, to full nut and bolt 
assembly concours restoration - all occurring right at my initial 
estimate of 66 weekends.

Yes, weekends!!

Astounding, absolutely astounding.

Not at all for my insignificant time estimate by any means, but simply 
astounded at the sheer drive, dedication and commitment of an 
outstanding group of Triumph enthusiasts to step forward for such a 
cause as this, giving up most all of their weekends over the past 14 
months to accomplish this quality restoration for a charitable cause.

This cause of course is to drive this wonderfully restored Triumph Stag 
across North America - 12,000 miles in about 3 months, promoting 
awareness for the infliction named - Post Traumatic Stress Disorder - 
PTSD, and promote action to provide diagnosis, aid and support to those 
afflicted both directly and indirectly from this syndrome.

The Stag Triumph Trans America (restoration) Group - STTAG- lead by Joe 
Pawlak of ISOA should be very proud of your accomplishments. Over the 
next 4 months, Illinois Sports Owners Association - ISOA name, acronym 
and members will become synonymous with the theme and goal of this 
charity drive, that of seeing a need, identifying the goal, and not only 
accomplishing the task, but going far beyond the call.

To you fine upstanding people (okay, so you don't get that too often), 
the ladies and gentlemen of the Illinois Sports Owners Association, I 
express my sincere thanks and appreciation for your labors. This is a 
great thing you have all accomplished, a really great thing.

And to all the fine people who contributed money toward accomplishing 
this end, my thanks to you also. This unselfish support from so many 
Triumph enthusiasts enabled us to purchase the Stag and begin this 
undertaking. If these generous people, including representatives of the 
12 host clubs supporting the drive can attend the informal unveiling the 
last weekend of May in Illinois, we would love to shake your hand in 
appreciation.

As a reminder, and for the Official kickoff of the Triumph Trans 
American Charity Drive 2009, John Macartney turns the key on this 
Charity Drive and engages the clutch at the Holly Hills Florida Office 
of Grass Roots MotorSports at 915 Ridgewood Avenueat the corner of 
Ridgewood Avenue (US-1) and 9th Street, two blocks south of LPGA Blvd, 
Saturday, 27 June, 2009.
see http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/events/open-house/
I have not been able to register for the event on the Grass Roots web 
site and it appears others cannot either, so just show up!

Now the tweaking of the STTAG begins for the next 4 weeks.

See you all in Florida!

Sincere Regards,

-- 
Glenn Merrell
North American Coordinator, TTA Charity Drive 2009
303-665-6040 voice
303-665-7820 fax
http://www.triumphtransamerica.org.uk/
mailto:StagByTriumph at triumphstagclub.org

From sagreenwood at att.net  Tue May 19 22:12:08 2009
From: sagreenwood at att.net (Stuart Greenwood)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 21:12:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spits] Door mirrors
Message-ID: <578207.27112.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Since nobody had any comment on the Tex mirrors sold by TRF I take it that either (a) the mirror fixing system is good enough or (c) nobody buys these... if so what mirrors have you guys got on your cars?

Stuart a Greenwood
71 Mk IV Spitfire, 71Mk 1 Stag

From parrotthead01 at comcast.net  Wed May 20 05:35:43 2009
From: parrotthead01 at comcast.net (Daniel Parrott)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 07:35:43 -0400
Subject: [Spits] Door mirrors
In-Reply-To: <578207.27112.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <578207.27112.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002101c9d93f$1c1ba2b0$5452e810$@net>

I have a pair of black mirrors from Victoria British.  9 years and no
problems.


Dan Parrott
Savannah, Ga
1980 Triumph Spitfire "PJ"
1972/1978 Spit Six Project car "Joseph"



-----Original Message-----
From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Stuart Greenwood
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:12 AM
To: spitfires at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spits] Door mirrors

Since nobody had any comment on the Tex mirrors sold by TRF I take it that
either (a) the mirror fixing system is good enough or (c) nobody buys
these... if so what mirrors have you guys got on your cars?

Stuart a Greenwood
71 Mk IV Spitfire, 71Mk 1 Stag
Spitfires at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires

http://www.team.net/archive

From jimmuller at rcn.com  Wed May 20 05:40:45 2009
From: jimmuller at rcn.com (Jim Muller)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 07:40:45 -0400
Subject: [Spits] Door mirrors
In-Reply-To: <578207.27112.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4A13B3FD.25939.186ED56D@localhost>

On 19 May 2009 at 21:12, Stuart Greenwood wrote:

> Since nobody had any comment on the Tex mirrors sold by TRF I
> take it that either (a) the mirror fixing system is good enough
> or (c) nobody buys these... if so what mirrors have you guys got
> on your cars?

Mirrors?  We don't need no stinkin' mirrors.

I have whatever style they came with, one on each door.  Both cars 
had passenger-side mounts but no mirror, so I added one.  I replaced 
the Spitfire driver-side mirror once when the paint had totally worn 
off and the mount was so loose it wouldn't hold its angle.  I used 
the same style, I believe from TRF, on the same mount.  It was years 
ago.  Many photons have bounced off of them since.

-- 
Jim Muller
jimmuller at rcn.com
'80 Spitfire, '70 GT6+

From standardtriumph at btinternet.com  Wed May 20 06:44:46 2009
From: standardtriumph at btinternet.com (John Macartney)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 13:44:46 +0100
Subject: [Spits] Door mirrors
References: <578207.27112.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <EC769F952BAF411F99D95202873DBC1A@John>

I've used Tex mirrors on my Triumphs for years - but not the versions sold by TRF. There is a wider 
range of spring-back mirrors with flat or convex glasses that were company approved and offered as 
accessories.

Jonmac

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stuart Greenwood" <sagreenwood at att.net>
To: <spitfires at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 5:12 AM
Subject: [Spits] Door mirrors


> Since nobody had any comment on the Tex mirrors sold by TRF I take it that either (a) the mirror 
> fixing system is good enough or (c) nobody buys these... if so what mirrors have you guys got on 
> your cars?
>
> Stuart a Greenwood
> 71 Mk IV Spitfire, 71Mk 1 Stag
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From mowog73 at sympatico.ca  Wed May 20 13:49:05 2009
From: mowog73 at sympatico.ca (Mark Jones)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 15:49:05 -0400
Subject: [Spits] Door mirrors and A post seals
In-Reply-To: <mailman.17.1242669602.8488.spitfires@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.17.1242669602.8488.spitfires@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <BAY121-W1EAC2CC4D6DDC71AAE402C8580@phx.gbl>

I'm using those Tex mirrors on my Spitfire and I attached them using the
plastic mount that came with them but with the plastic plug part cut off and
using nuts and machine bolts to solidly attach them to the car; makes the
mounted mirror much more secure; no wobble.



I've never had a problem with the mirror coming off the plinth; can't see it
happening.



I'm also using both seals on the door window side of hte windshield frame;
just like it was originally.  Works really well to seal out drafts :-)



Mark

80 Spitfire 1500

----------------------------------------------------------------------

I got a set of the Tex door mirrors from TRF. I really don't like the way
they
attached to the door or the way the mirror stem attaches to the mounting
plinth. I can overcome the first problem by bolting through the door metal
rather than using the plastic plugs but I can't really modify the way the
stem
mirror mounts. Has anybody with has these mirror had a issue with the mirror
stem either falling off the plinth or being inadvertenly knocked off by a
passerby? The mounting seems very weak to me.
All the catalogues show a seal which goes around the entire door opening
right up to the top of the A post. Then there is a separate A post seal. The
seals I got have pretty big round hollow rubber seals. When I put the door
opening seal on it touches the window glass more or less rendering the A post
seal superfluous. Are you supposed to cut off the rubber seal from the door
opening seal where is goes up the A post and then put the A post seal on.
There sure doesn't look ike there is room for both
I appreciate any advice

Stuart Greenwood
71 MKIV Spit and 71 MKI Stag

From parrotthead01 at comcast.net  Thu May 21 09:07:37 2009
From: parrotthead01 at comcast.net (Daniel Parrott)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 11:07:37 -0400
Subject: [Spits] Leaf Spring Restoration
In-Reply-To: <4A13B3FD.25939.186ED56D@localhost>
References: <578207.27112.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<4A13B3FD.25939.186ED56D@localhost>
Message-ID: <009601c9da25$e1abaf20$a5030d60$@net>

In my frame-off restoration of my Spit Six, I'm dissembling the rear leaf
spring in order to replace the rubber "buttons."  The leafs springs are
being held by four brackets, two "U" shaped brackets with nuts and bolts,
and two more with brackets that encircle the springs instead of bolts.  My
Haynes manual says simply to "bend the leaf clips" to remove the leafs.
Really?  The metal seems substantial and won't want to be easily bent back.

Also, the Rear leaf spring was pretty greasy.  I was able to disassemble the
first three leafs without much trouble.  But as I wire-brushed the top leaf,
I found a note that says "FRONT," but I don't know which way the leafs
should be reassembled.  Which way should these leafs face, not that I
dissembled most of the rear leaf spring?


TIA

Dan Parrott
Savannah, Ga
1980 Triumph Spitfire "PJ"
1972/1978 Spit Six Project car "Joseph"

From sagreenwood at att.net  Thu May 21 22:32:03 2009
From: sagreenwood at att.net (Stuart Greenwood)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 21:32:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spits] Rear spring
Message-ID: <750755.5774.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I took my rear spring apart during my restoration and cleaned the leafs up and
fitted new buttons but it's not a success. The leafs were too tired. restoring
them like you intend will be fruitless unless you are sure the leafs are OK.
Really the only way to tell is  if the car bottomed on the bump rubber when
going over a slight bump in the road with two up. I would say forget restoring
them if this occurs.  As to the FRONT mark my memory is a bit hazy but I think
that this is on the main leaf.. the one that has the eyes for the rubber
bushes. Front means to the front of the car of course. The other leaves I
beleive can be fitted either way round.

Stuart a Greenwood
71 Mk IV Spitfire, 71Mk 1 Stag

From sagreenwood at att.net  Thu May 21 22:42:30 2009
From: sagreenwood at att.net (Stuart Greenwood)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 21:42:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spits] Door mirrors
Message-ID: <796581.79679.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Thanks to all the people who replied.  I going to use the TRF TEX ones and
bolt them to the doors as Mike Jones did.
While on the subject of mirrors TRF always state that the bullet ones don't
work well on the Right Hand Side. The bullet door mirrors I have( they are the
small ones not the huge ones oringially fitted by dealers to the left hand
side) also have this problem but it can be overcome. The bullet is bolted to
the base. You can elongate the bolt hole and twist the bullet around so it's
non longer  parallel to the base. You only need a little bit of twist and then
you can get enough angle on the mirror itself so it works OK on the RHS.  This
is OK if only you drive the car, or the other person  uses the same seat
position as you. In my case the wife sits closer to the wheel and I needed so
much twist on the bullet that it looked really way off parallel to the base.
So that's why I'm using the Tex ones.

Stuart a Greenwood
71 Mk IV Spitfire, 71Mk 1 Stag

From sagreenwood at att.net  Thu May 21 22:50:05 2009
From: sagreenwood at att.net (Stuart Greenwood)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 21:50:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spits] Tonneau cover attachment
Message-ID: <392230.88373.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I have an original factory tonneau which at the front has metal eye holes
where it slips of the pegs on the top of the dash.  But it tends to fly off in
the wind. To me this can  only work if the tonneau is a tight fit so the eyes
hold fast beneath the lip on the pegs.  Is this correct or am I missing some
kind of fastener?  Maybe like the ones used on some TR2/3s which have a spring
clip  on each side of the part attached to the tonneau so the spring
compresses as it slips over the lip on the pegs and then snaps back  to grip
the peg

Stuart a Greenwood
71 Mk IV Spitfire, 71Mk 1 Stag

From spitlist at cox.net  Thu May 21 23:00:00 2009
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 22:00:00 -0700
Subject: [Spits] Rear spring
In-Reply-To: <750755.5774.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <750755.5774.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <75D6C1F0000D41F5B4B4C903A4681C6B@joepentiumnew>

Anyone wishing to restore the swing-spring from a MkIV or 1500 will probably
have the same experience.  This is because the springs are inherently weak
to start with and will ultimately start sagging much sooner than the springs
in the earlier Spitfires.  It is just "the nature of the beast"

Replacing them with new ones will solve the problem but it will sooner or
later come back.

My 2 cents worth,
Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Stuart Greenwood
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 9:32 PM
To: parrotthead01 at comcast.net
Cc: spitfires
Subject: [Spits] Rear spring

I took my rear spring apart during my restoration and cleaned the leafs up
and
fitted new buttons but it's not a success. The leafs were too tired.
restoring
them like you intend will be fruitless unless you are sure the leafs are OK.
Really the only way to tell is  if the car bottomed on the bump rubber when
going over a slight bump in the road with two up. I would say forget
restoring
them if this occurs.  As to the FRONT mark my memory is a bit hazy but I
think
that this is on the main leaf.. the one that has the eyes for the rubber
bushes. Front means to the front of the car of course. The other leaves I
beleive can be fitted either way round.

From spitlist at cox.net  Thu May 21 23:04:12 2009
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 22:04:12 -0700
Subject: [Spits] Tonneau cover attachment
In-Reply-To: <392230.88373.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <392230.88373.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <78865E086079416AA4A2D2CF92C51D58@joepentiumnew>

I added "Lift-the-Dot" fasteners and they work great.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Stuart Greenwood
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 9:50 PM
To: spitfires at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spits] Tonneau cover attachment

I have an original factory tonneau which at the front has metal eye holes
where it slips of the pegs on the top of the dash.  But it tends to fly off
in
the wind. To me this can  only work if the tonneau is a tight fit so the
eyes
hold fast beneath the lip on the pegs.  Is this correct or am I missing some
kind of fastener?  Maybe like the ones used on some TR2/3s which have a
spring
clip  on each side of the part attached to the tonneau so the spring
compresses as it slips over the lip on the pegs and then snaps back  to grip
the peg

Stuart a Greenwood
71 Mk IV Spitfire, 71Mk 1 Stag
Spitfires at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires

http://www.team.net/archive

From doug at dougbraun.com  Thu May 21 23:09:26 2009
From: doug at dougbraun.com (Doug Braun)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 22:09:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spits] Tonneau cover attachment
Message-ID: <576049.53174.qm@web606.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

My tonneau (original, I believe) has plain grommets on the front.
But you have
to stretch it a bit to attach them to the pegs,
and it stays on no problem.
My biggest complaint is that the rough bottom of the grommet scratches
the
paint on the air vents...

Doug Braun
'72 Spit

--- On Fri, 5/22/09, Stuart
Greenwood <sagreenwood at att.net> wrote:

> From: Stuart Greenwood
<sagreenwood at att.net>
> Subject: [Spits] Tonneau cover attachment
> To:
spitfires at autox.team.net
> Date: Friday, May 22, 2009, 12:50 AM
> I have an
original factory tonneau
> which at the front has metal eye holes
> where it
slips of the pegs on the top of the dash. 
> But it tends to fly off in
> the
wind. To me this can  only work if the tonneau is
> a tight fit so the eyes
>
hold fast beneath the lip on the pegs.  Is this
> correct or am I missing some
> kind of fastener?  Maybe like the ones used on some
> TR2/3s which have a
spring
> clip  on each side of the part attached to the tonneau
> so the
spring
> compresses as it slips over the lip on the pegs and then
> snaps
back  to grip
> the peg
> 
> Stuart a Greenwood
> 71 Mk IV Spitfire, 71Mk 1
Stag
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From jimmuller at rcn.com  Fri May 22 05:23:10 2009
From: jimmuller at rcn.com (Jim Muller)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 07:23:10 -0400
Subject: [Spits] Tonneau cover attachment
In-Reply-To: <392230.88373.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4A1652DE.12483.22AB760A@localhost>

On 21 May 2009 at 21:50, Stuart Greenwood wrote:

> I have an original factory tonneau which at the front has metal
> eye holes where it slips of the pegs on the top of the dash.
> But it tends to fly off in the wind.

You can try some method to hold the grommets down on the pegs, but a 
possibility exists that when the tonneau flaps enough it will tear 
the grommets out of the fabric.  Best not to drive very fast with the 
tonneau half open.

-- 
Jim Muller
jimmuller at rcn.com
'80 Spitfire, '70 GT6+

From parrotthead01 at comcast.net  Fri May 22 06:13:52 2009
From: parrotthead01 at comcast.net (Daniel Parrott)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 08:13:52 -0400
Subject: [Spits] Tonneau cover attachment
In-Reply-To: <576049.53174.qm@web606.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <576049.53174.qm@web606.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <006001c9dad6$c57670e0$506352a0$@net>

I also have some "lift the dot" type grommets for my tonneau cover.  I
spread a bit of clear silicone sealant on the underside to avoid scratching
the air vents.


Daniel Parrott
Savannah, Ga
1980 Triumph Spitfire "PJ"
1972/1978 SpitSix "Joseph"



-----Original Message-----
From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Doug Braun
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 1:09 AM
To: spitfires at autox.team.net; sagreenwood at att.net
Subject: Re: [Spits] Tonneau cover attachment

My tonneau (original, I believe) has plain grommets on the front.
But you have
to stretch it a bit to attach them to the pegs,
and it stays on no problem.
My biggest complaint is that the rough bottom of the grommet scratches
the
paint on the air vents...

Doug Braun
'72 Spit

--- On Fri, 5/22/09, Stuart
Greenwood <sagreenwood at att.net> wrote:

> From: Stuart Greenwood
<sagreenwood at att.net>
> Subject: [Spits] Tonneau cover attachment
> To:
spitfires at autox.team.net
> Date: Friday, May 22, 2009, 12:50 AM
> I have an
original factory tonneau
> which at the front has metal eye holes
> where it
slips of the pegs on the top of the dash. 
> But it tends to fly off in
> the
wind. To me this can  only work if the tonneau is
> a tight fit so the eyes
>
hold fast beneath the lip on the pegs.  Is this
> correct or am I missing some
> kind of fastener?  Maybe like the ones used on some
> TR2/3s which have a
spring
> clip  on each side of the part attached to the tonneau
> so the
spring
> compresses as it slips over the lip on the pegs and then
> snaps
back  to grip
> the peg
> 
> Stuart a Greenwood
> 71 Mk IV Spitfire, 71Mk 1
Stag
> _______________________________________________
> 
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From standardtriumph at btinternet.com  Fri May 22 08:24:08 2009
From: standardtriumph at btinternet.com (John Macartney)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 15:24:08 +0100
Subject: [Spits] Tangibly Triumph query
Message-ID: <D7B5007C003B4B05BC42000AF88BFA3E@John>

Hi, Everyone

The question of 'communications' raises its ugly head again for the Triumph Trans-AmeriCan Stag. On 
arrival in Florida in late June, I plan on buying a 'Pay As You Go' cellphone - something cheap and 
cheerful. Not so worried about the make but I am interested in buying one from an ISP with the best 
possible coverage of the US and Canada. From my studies on the 'net of T-Mobile, Verizon and I think 
O2, Verizon looks the best. I'd appreciate your thoughts on an ISP offering better coverage than 
Verizon. Additionally, I'd be interested to know if any ISP retailers offer external antennas for 
cellphones. Some parts of Europe (mainly former communist bloc) still have many weak signal areas 
where the phone antenna itself won't pull in a call (or transmit) unless its hooked up to an 
external antenna. Does the same apply across the pond? I'm thinking of the long stretches of road in 
rural areas and in the more mountainous areas - especially the Rockies. Thanks in advance - an 
enquiring mind needs to know.

Jonmac

Originator of The Triumph Trans-America Charity Drive 2009
www.triumphtransamerica.org.uk

An event for full TRIUMPH Enthusiast participation 

From jjackson12 at triad.rr.com  Fri May 22 16:43:36 2009
From: jjackson12 at triad.rr.com (Dee Jackson)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 18:43:36 -0400
Subject: [Spits] Rear Wheel Stud Replacement
In-Reply-To: <mailman.21.1242928802.20040.spitfires@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <000e01c9db2e$bffb8440$6401a8c0@computer>

Long time lurker seeking the collective wisdom of the list.

Long story made short, I had new tires put my Spitfire today, after about 15
years.  The tire place snapped off one of the right rear studs by
over-torquing it.  They've agreed to pay me for the stud and lug nut, and
have said they'd also replace it for me, although it's not bloody likely
I'll let them touch it again.  It's been a while since I've been into the
half shaft, but I'm thinking there's not enough room between the back plate
and the hub to get a new stud in, and that the Churchill tool, or a
reasonable facsimile, will be required.  Am I right?  Can this be done in
situ?  Any advice is appreciated.

Thanks,

Dee Jackson
Asheboro, NC
Spitfire FM90204UO
GT6 KF20632

From elliottr at rmi.net  Fri May 22 17:45:11 2009
From: elliottr at rmi.net (Roger Elliott)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 18:45:11 -0500
Subject: [Spits] Leaf Spring Restoration
In-Reply-To: <009601c9da25$e1abaf20$a5030d60$@net>
References: <578207.27112.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<4A13B3FD.25939.186ED56D@localhost>
	<009601c9da25$e1abaf20$a5030d60$@net>
Message-ID: <4A173907.1040905@rmi.net>

I have been wanting to do something to rebuild my springs based on a 
couple of articles that I have read about replacing the rubber 
buttons.   Of course one of the authors made his out of brass the other 
out of nylatron(?) or polyurethane,  They both had access to lathes to 
do this.  However, I have not been able to find a source for the buttons 
even from a spring shop. Have you found a source?

I am guessing that the rubber disentegrating is a part of what causes 
the problem. If the rubber is gone, then you have removed a half an inch 
of height or so on the spring  I suspect that having a more resilient 
substance would help prevent the sag.

The other thing to consider as a mechanic pointed out to me just a 
couple of days ago, the Spit has a negative 2.75 - 4.75 degree camber 
specification. To a lot of people even that looks bad.

Roger

Daniel Parrott wrote:
> In my frame-off restoration of my Spit Six, I'm dissembling the rear leaf
> spring in order to replace the rubber "buttons."  The leafs springs are
> being held by four brackets, two "U" shaped brackets with nuts and bolts,
> and two more with brackets that encircle the springs instead of bolts.  My
> Haynes manual says simply to "bend the leaf clips" to remove the leafs.
> Really?  The metal seems substantial and won't want to be easily bent back.
>
> Also, the Rear leaf spring was pretty greasy.  I was able to disassemble the
> first three leafs without much trouble.  But as I wire-brushed the top leaf,
> I found a note that says "FRONT," but I don't know which way the leafs
> should be reassembled.  Which way should these leafs face, not that I
> dissembled most of the rear leaf spring?
>
>
> TIA
>
> Dan Parrott
> Savannah, Ga
> 1980 Triumph Spitfire "PJ"
> 1972/1978 Spit Six Project car "Joseph"
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>
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From spitlist at cox.net  Fri May 22 18:00:27 2009
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 17:00:27 -0700
Subject: [Spits] Rear Wheel Stud Replacement
In-Reply-To: <000e01c9db2e$bffb8440$6401a8c0@computer>
References: <mailman.21.1242928802.20040.spitfires@autox.team.net>
	<000e01c9db2e$bffb8440$6401a8c0@computer>
Message-ID: <4AB11AC8B1BE47BF879A89FCD697853A@joepentiumnew>

Absolutely!  All you have to do is take off the brake drum and strip out the
brake shoes and attaching hardware,  The hub sticks out enough from the
backing plate so that getting the old lugs out and new ones in is quite
possible.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dee Jackson
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 3:44 PM
To: spitfires at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spits] Rear Wheel Stud Replacement

Long time lurker seeking the collective wisdom of the list.

Long story made short, I had new tires put my Spitfire today, after about 15
years.  The tire place snapped off one of the right rear studs by
over-torquing it.  They've agreed to pay me for the stud and lug nut, and
have said they'd also replace it for me, although it's not bloody likely
I'll let them touch it again.  It's been a while since I've been into the
half shaft, but I'm thinking there's not enough room between the back plate
and the hub to get a new stud in, and that the Churchill tool, or a
reasonable facsimile, will be required.  Am I right?  Can this be done in
situ?  Any advice is appreciated.

Thanks,

Dee Jackson
Asheboro, NC
Spitfire FM90204UO
GT6 KF20632
Spitfires at autox.team.net
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From spitlist at cox.net  Fri May 22 18:58:22 2009
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 17:58:22 -0700
Subject: [Spits] Leaf Spring Restoration
In-Reply-To: <4A173907.1040905@rmi.net>
References: <578207.27112.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><4A13B3FD.25939.186ED56D@localhost><009601c9da25$e1abaf20$a5030d60$@net>
	<4A173907.1040905@rmi.net>
Message-ID: <A6DBE3BF056945B9BB81F8C02490B42E@joepentiumnew>

If you go to Home Depot and browse the hardware section, you should be able
to find some nylon washers of the proper size.  They are cheap and you don't
have to do any fabrication.

But the disintegration of the bumpers does not account for the sag.  That is
caused by the very weak main leaf and the fact that it is the only leaf that
is fixed to the diff.  So it is what offers the major support for the car.
It is no coincidence that the sag is typically on the driver side before it
is noticed on the passenger side.


Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Roger Elliott
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 4:45 PM
To: Daniel Parrott
Cc: spitfires at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spits] Leaf Spring Restoration

I have been wanting to do something to rebuild my springs based on a 
couple of articles that I have read about replacing the rubber 
buttons.   Of course one of the authors made his out of brass the other 
out of nylatron(?) or polyurethane,  They both had access to lathes to 
do this.  However, I have not been able to find a source for the buttons 
even from a spring shop. Have you found a source?

I am guessing that the rubber disentegrating is a part of what causes 
the problem. If the rubber is gone, then you have removed a half an inch 
of height or so on the spring  I suspect that having a more resilient 
substance would help prevent the sag.

The other thing to consider as a mechanic pointed out to me just a 
couple of days ago, the Spit has a negative 2.75 - 4.75 degree camber 
specification. To a lot of people even that looks bad.

Roger

Daniel Parrott wrote:
> In my frame-off restoration of my Spit Six, I'm dissembling the rear leaf
> spring in order to replace the rubber "buttons."  The leafs springs are
> being held by four brackets, two "U" shaped brackets with nuts and bolts,
> and two more with brackets that encircle the springs instead of bolts.  My
> Haynes manual says simply to "bend the leaf clips" to remove the leafs.
> Really?  The metal seems substantial and won't want to be easily bent
back.
>
> Also, the Rear leaf spring was pretty greasy.  I was able to disassemble
the
> first three leafs without much trouble.  But as I wire-brushed the top
leaf,
> I found a note that says "FRONT," but I don't know which way the leafs
> should be reassembled.  Which way should these leafs face, not that I
> dissembled most of the rear leaf spring?
>
>
> TIA
>
> Dan Parrott
> Savannah, Ga
> 1980 Triumph Spitfire "PJ"
> 1972/1978 Spit Six Project car "Joseph"
> _______________________________________________
>
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
> Spitfires at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires
>
> http://www.team.net/archive
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From nmoseley at dccnet.com  Sat May 23 22:24:49 2009
From: nmoseley at dccnet.com (Nick Moseley)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 21:24:49 -0700
Subject: [Spits] Stupid question number 56
Message-ID: <69C90465B45D4E69B17A8CF0F3495D6E@yourb27fb1c401>

An early round-tail, a 63, found its way into my yard. Not surprisingly, it
needs new floors and inner, middle, and outer sills. I happen to have a
squaretail tub, with pretty good floors and sills.

Is there any chance of being able to transplant the floors and sills as a
unit? If not the whole, how about smaller aspects?

Many thanks for your thoughts.

 

Nick Moseley, NASS #278:

63-81 Spits, GT 6, Metro Vancouver B.C.

From krhodes1 at maine.rr.com  Sun May 24 22:48:14 2009
From: krhodes1 at maine.rr.com (Kevin Rhodes)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 00:48:14 -0400
Subject: [Spits] Clutch slave cylinders - advice sought
In-Reply-To: <69C90465B45D4E69B17A8CF0F3495D6E@yourb27fb1c401>
References: <69C90465B45D4E69B17A8CF0F3495D6E@yourb27fb1c401>
Message-ID: <20090525044807053.SBGQ1555@hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com>

Freddy has developed a leak in his slave cylinder. Seems like the 
usual parts suppliers all carry an "OE" slave cylinder and a 
reproduction slave cylinder. Any opinions as to whether the OE is 
worth 2X+ the price of the repro? I have no problem coughing up the 
money if it is genuinely of better quality. I'm pretty sure I have 
rebuilt the one that is in there at least once over the years, so 
this time I am inclined to just buy a new one. This is an alloy-body slave.

I have to say, I think this is the first thing that has gone wrong in 
4-5 years! Admittedly, since I bought a '92 Saab Convertible a few 
years ago I don't drive Freddy nearly as frequently or as far, but 
the little guy is pretty darned reliable! Fourteen years of ownership 
coming up in July. He's getting old - I try not to think what that 
means about me, though it certainly gets harder to get in and out 
every year....

Kevin Rhodes
Westbrook Maine
Freddy the Mongrel Spitfire 

From jimmuller at rcn.com  Mon May 25 06:32:22 2009
From: jimmuller at rcn.com (Jim Muller)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 08:32:22 -0400
Subject: [Spits] Clutch slave cylinders - advice sought
In-Reply-To: <20090525044807053.SBGQ1555@hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com>
References: <69C90465B45D4E69B17A8CF0F3495D6E@yourb27fb1c401>
Message-ID: <4A1A5796.3684.1255F8@localhost>

On 25 May 2009 at 0:48, Kevin Rhodes wrote:

> Freddy has developed a leak in his slave cylinder. Seems like the 
> usual parts suppliers all carry an "OE" slave cylinder and a 
> reproduction slave cylinder. Any opinions as to whether the OE is 
> worth 2X+ the price of the repro?

Greetings from much further downeast (Mt. Desert Island), at least 
until we get home tonight.  Sorry, I can't offer any real opinion on 
OEM vs. later SC.  You didn't say whether it was a later or earlier 
Spitfire.  The SC is different.  If it was me I'd probably go for the 
aftermarket one, but I can't see that it makes much difference.


Jim Muller
jimmuller at rcn.com

From nmoseley at dccnet.com  Mon May 25 19:35:44 2009
From: nmoseley at dccnet.com (Nick Moseley)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 18:35:44 -0700
Subject: [Spits] Stupid question number 56
In-Reply-To: <13180562.1243207868270.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <13180562.1243207868270.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <54E253F285D54B07B120D5491E01D827@yourb27fb1c401>

Hector, thank you.

The floor and rocker parts are the same, so that should be OK. In theory, it
might indeed be better to use all-new panels. I want to do the 63 justice.
However, I've been without a job since mid-October, so the cost of the new
panels is quite important. As well, I have all these panels, in good shape,
on another tub. If sold, that tub might make as much as $1,000., which would
be less than the cost of the new ones with shipping. If the transplant would
work, it would save some $s, and save me the time and trouble of finding a
buyer for the tub. It has been advertised before, with no bites. Somewhat
surprising, given the climate here.

Nick Moseley,
Metro Vancouver B.C.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: agostinihp at earthlink.net [mailto:agostinihp at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 4:31 PM
To: Nick Moseley
Subject: Re: [Spits] Stupid question number 56

Hi there

As far as I know, the floorpans and sills are the same for the roundtails as
they are for the square tales.  I have used the same floor pans and sills
for both my Spit III (roundtail) and GT6 Mk III (squaretail).  I have done
both sills (inner, middle, outer) on the Spit and the left sill (outer) on
the GT6.  I have also done the full left floorpan for the Spit and front
floorpan (originally meant for the Spit) on the GT6.  The key is to get good
quality parts which fit up better than not so good parts.

Is it really worth cutting out the parts of the squaretail and transplanting
them to the roundtail?  It might be faster and easier to get new  quality
parts since they would line up properly and be easier to weld in.  You may
want to check around some more.

Hope this helps,
Regards
Hector

From cwn74 at aol.com  Tue May 26 18:20:21 2009
From: cwn74 at aol.com (Clark W. Nicholls)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 20:20:21 -0400
Subject: [Spits] Rear Wheel Stud Replacement
In-Reply-To: <000e01c9db2e$bffb8440$6401a8c0@computer>
References: <mailman.21.1242928802.20040.spitfires@autox.team.net>
	<000e01c9db2e$bffb8440$6401a8c0@computer>
Message-ID: <009701c9de60$ec6f3eb0$c54dbc10$@com>

Take the drum off and pound the remnant of the broken stud inwards to
remove.
Insert the new stud and pull into place using a lug nut and some washers.
Easy.

Clark
Clark W. Nicholls
1972 Stag 1974 Spitfire (and 2 rusty GT6's needing restoration)
"Reality, it's not what you think."

From StagByTriumph at tscusa.org  Sat May 30 09:40:47 2009
From: StagByTriumph at tscusa.org (Glenn A. Merrell)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 09:40:47 -0600
Subject: [Spits] test
Message-ID: <4A21537F.6090305@tscusa.org>

Test ping on option change

From ralph at cloverleaf-auto.com  Sun May 31 08:01:44 2009
From: ralph at cloverleaf-auto.com (Ralph Steinberg)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 10:01:44 -0400
Subject: [Spits] PVGPA Historic Races at BeaveRun
Message-ID: <005e01c9e1f8$552f9310$ff8eb930$@com>

It is the last day of May, tomorrow is the last day you can post your entry
to the PVGPA Historic races at BeaveRun and still get the discount! In
today's world it is probably the best deal in Vintage Racing! If you opt for
the full 3 day package you will get more driving time than you may have
tires for! We have all sorts of things planned from our included trackside
reception on Friday to the optional race dinner on Saturday. On Friday the
kart track will be open and we are working on having that open all weekend.
If we can entice enough mini's to come out and play we have a separate race
for them. Since we offer full refunds there is no reason not to send in your
check today. (remember it is made out to PVGPA and so a portion of it is tax
deductable - how much is between you, your accountant and God) OUR REFUND
POLICY IS THUS - IF YOU DO NOT PUT A WHEEL ON THE TRACK ON Friday OR
SATURDAY YOU GET YOUR ENTIRE REFUND. IF YOU PACK UP FRIDAY NIGHT AND GO DO
NOT PARTICIPATE IN ANY MORE ACTIVITIES WE WILL REFUND THE RACE WEEKEND
PORTION - IF YOU WANT TO HANG AROUND FOR THE WEEKEND BUT YOUR CAR HAS DIED
BEFORE THE FIRST SESSION ON SATURDAY WE WILL REFUND JUST YOUR ENTRY FEE.


 

 We are planning a big Trans-Am race so we really want to see all of the
classic sedans out there. At this particular race we have a spot for a
number of cars that are not normally seen at VRG events. One that comes to
mind is air cooled Super VEE.

 Great racing, great fun, and great charities that your entry fees are going
to. A perfect summer weekend!

 

 For more information forms, links, etc please go to www.cloverleaf-auto.com
and click the vintage racing link - click the BeaveRun link next and you
should find all you need there or a link to where ever you may want to go -
VRG, PVGPA, etc

 

 Thanks and I expect to see you there

Ralph Steinberg

 PVGPA Director of Competition BeaveRun Historics

From parrotthead01 at comcast.net  Sun May 31 11:23:47 2009
From: parrotthead01 at comcast.net (Daniel Parrott)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 13:23:47 -0400
Subject: [Spits] Caterham type trunnionless front suspension kit
In-Reply-To: <A6DBE3BF056945B9BB81F8C02490B42E@joepentiumnew>
References: <578207.27112.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><4A13B3FD.25939.186ED56D@localhost><009601c9da25$e1abaf20$a5030d60$@net>
	<4A173907.1040905@rmi.net>
	<A6DBE3BF056945B9BB81F8C02490B42E@joepentiumnew>
Message-ID: <01f801c9e214$8ef3dea0$acdb9be0$@net>

I purchased the Caterham type trunnionless front suspension replacement kit
(along with the neat-looking Caterham front hub and stub) from CanleyClassic
in the UK, and I'm about to begin the installation into my SpitSix project
car.  Here's the URL for a photo.

http://www.canleyclassics.com/image.pl?file=../data/uploadedpics/catkit1.jpg

Anyway, there doesn't appear to be anyway to lubricate the lower "ball and
socket." Metal on metal bearings don't seem right.  Is lubrication needed?
And if so, how and what do I lubricate it with?

Thanks.


Dan Parrott
Savannah, Ga
1980 Triumph Spitfire "PJ"
1972/1978 Spit Six Project car "Joseph"

From spitlist at cox.net  Sun May 31 11:34:45 2009
From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 10:34:45 -0700
Subject: [Spits] Caterham type trunnionless front suspension kit
In-Reply-To: <01f801c9e214$8ef3dea0$acdb9be0$@net>
References: <578207.27112.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><4A13B3FD.25939.186ED56D@localhost><009601c9da25$e1abaf20$a5030d60$@net><4A173907.1040905@rmi.net><A6DBE3BF056945B9BB81F8C02490B42E@joepentiumnew>
	<01f801c9e214$8ef3dea0$acdb9be0$@net>
Message-ID: <39C37D9FF4484DB4BC4A48F8A0E7D896@joepentiumnew>

There doesn't appear to be any way to lubricate that ball joint, unless you
just squirt it with your oil can.  Although, I can't understand how it will
hold up without lubrication.  Normally, one would expect to see ball joints
covered by rubber to protect them from debris getting into the joint and
causing wear.

I would email the question to Canley Classics.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daniel Parrott
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 10:24 AM
To: spitfires at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spits] Caterham type trunnionless front suspension kit

I purchased the Caterham type trunnionless front suspension replacement kit
(along with the neat-looking Caterham front hub and stub) from CanleyClassic
in the UK, and I'm about to begin the installation into my SpitSix project
car.  Here's the URL for a photo.

http://www.canleyclassics.com/image.pl?file=../data/uploadedpics/catkit1.jpg

Anyway, there doesn't appear to be anyway to lubricate the lower "ball and
socket." Metal on metal bearings don't seem right.  Is lubrication needed?
And if so, how and what do I lubricate it with?

Thanks.


Dan Parrott
Savannah, Ga
1980 Triumph Spitfire "PJ"
1972/1978 Spit Six Project car "Joseph"
Spitfires at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires

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