From dhlocker at comcast.net Mon Jun 2 16:36:40 2008 From: dhlocker at comcast.net (Donald H Locker) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:36:40 -0400 Subject: [Spits] 1966 Red Spit in Chelsea MI Message-ID: <484475F8.8070906@comcast.net> If the owner of the 1966 Spit that I spoke to at the Mobil Station near downtown Chelsea is hanging about, I'd like to hear from you. Nice unit! If not, and someone knows who he is, I'd like to get him to join our conversations. Donald. From sagreenwood at earthlink.net Mon Jun 2 17:18:57 2008 From: sagreenwood at earthlink.net (Stuart Greenwood) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 16:18:57 -0700 Subject: [Spits] Spitfire IV emblems Message-ID: <380-22008612231857590@earthlink.net> Just an update on emblem removal. The emblems on the bonnet and the rear wings have two pegs cast into them on the backside. There are two holes drilled in the bodywork into which are fitted plastic retainers. When you push the emblems in the pegs go into the retainers and spread them they are locked to the body work. It's easy to get the emblems off. Just carefully lever them off using a thin blade like a paint scraper. The plastic retainers will say in the holes. The problem is getting the retainers out without damaging them since they have been spread out when the emblems were orginally put in. I haven't tried to do this yet but it will have to be done so I can block sand the panels prior to painting. Stuart A Greenwood sagreenwood at earthlink.net Triumph Spiitfire Mk IV, Triumph Stag Mk I From cbhlouky at bellsouth.net Mon Jun 2 21:17:18 2008 From: cbhlouky at bellsouth.net (Craig) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 23:17:18 -0400 Subject: [Spits] car show in Louisville, Ky Message-ID: <002201c8c528$55bc0bd0$0201a8c0@home9cmfx9peca> this weekend, all-british carshow in louisville, kentucky. 24th annual British Bash www.britishbash.com good fun for all! cbhlouky at bellsouth.net Thanks, Craig From buss3 at rogers.com Tue Jun 3 05:55:25 2008 From: buss3 at rogers.com (Grant Buss) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 07:55:25 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Wiring Message-ID: <000c01c8c570$b67662c0$6500a8c0@FUNPLACE> Has anyone put a Painless wiring harness in their Spitfire?? What one was it?? How did it go?? From grizmoto at midrivers.com Wed Jun 4 14:02:03 2008 From: grizmoto at midrivers.com (Marty Paulson) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 14:02:03 -0600 Subject: [Spits] PDWA valve Message-ID: <001401c8c67d$df47dea0$a7d85940@Paulson> Thanks for the the info on centering the PDWA valve. I didn't have any luck doing it either by foot or hand. I ended up taking the valve apart and the shuttle seemed jamed slightly into the front brake end of the valve. The o-rings and sleeves were OK so I cleaned and reassembled and Very carefully bled the brakes again and managed to keep the shuttle centered. Thanks for the replies. Marty 76 Spit From standardtriumph at btinternet.com Wed Jun 4 14:44:53 2008 From: standardtriumph at btinternet.com (John Macartney) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 21:44:53 +0100 Subject: [Spits] And I thought I was sweating on oil prices!!! Message-ID: <00c001c8c683$d8143ec0$0201a8c0@Bevan> Hi, Guys The only Triumph connection I can bring to this thread is that on Sunday I found myself re-fuelling the Triumph Trans-America UK Spitfire UK Raffle prize at a freeway gas station here in the UK. Even topping off the tank made my eyes smart a bit (remembering UK fuel prices are usually stratospheric) - but I had a surprise. Just as I was snapping the filler cap closed on the Spitfire, alongside me comes a beautiful 1926 4.5 litre Bentley. The same type that raced so successfully at Le Mans all those years ago. Driver was a most engaging individual, very friendly and responded with humour to my comment that it would cost him the UK defence budget to re-fill. With aplomb and a cheery smile, he loosened the Bentley's fuel cap to reveal a hole about 6 inches in diameter and a *fairly* empty (I'd guess just under half full) but massive slab tank. In went the nozzle and while he kept the fuel flowing, we had a pleasant chat. First time I've seen a Bentley refilled from empty and it didn't happen in a few moments! :) Eventually, the tank was full and I looked at the pump meter. GBP 143.00 (equal to about US$286.00) and I commented that I hoped it would get him home. "I hope so too. London's about 130 miles? With a bit of luck and if I keep the revs below 2000, we ought to do it." How much did he take on board? My calculator tells me about 25.8 imperial gallons and there were probably about another 20 gallons still in it. So, say 50 gallons at GBPUS$554 for the full tank and 130 miles to eat it all up, it would have cost him somewhere in the region of US$4.26 PER MILE! Jeez, at that consumption, I guess you could work out the cost per firing impulse. Anyone care to do it? I'm too tired..... Jonmac Originator of The Triumph Trans-America Charity Drive 2009 www.triumphtransamerica.org.uk An event for full TRIUMPH Enthusiast participation From dhlocker at comcast.net Wed Jun 4 18:17:27 2008 From: dhlocker at comcast.net (Donald H Locker) Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:17:27 -0400 Subject: [Spits] And I thought I was sweating on oil prices!!! In-Reply-To: <00c001c8c683$d8143ec0$0201a8c0@Bevan> References: <00c001c8c683$d8143ec0$0201a8c0@Bevan> Message-ID: <48473097.8090200@comcast.net> That's a serious Owie! Good thing it's not a daily driver. Always good to hear from you, John. Donald. John Macartney wrote: > Hi, Guys > > The only Triumph connection I can bring to this thread is that on Sunday I found myself re-fuelling > the Triumph Trans-America UK Spitfire UK Raffle prize at a freeway gas station here in the UK. Even > topping off the tank made my eyes smart a bit (remembering UK fuel prices are usually > stratospheric) - but I had a surprise. Just as I was snapping the filler cap closed on the Spitfire, > alongside me comes a beautiful 1926 4.5 litre Bentley. The same type that raced so successfully at > Le Mans all those years ago. Driver was a most engaging individual, very friendly and responded with > humour to my comment that it would cost him the UK defence budget to re-fill. With aplomb and a > cheery smile, he loosened the Bentley's fuel cap to reveal a hole about 6 inches in diameter and a > *fairly* empty (I'd guess just under half full) but massive slab tank. In went the nozzle and while > he kept the fuel flowing, we had a pleasant chat. First time I've seen a Bentley refilled from empty > and it didn't happen in a few moments! :) > Eventually, the tank was full and I looked at the pump meter. > GBP 143.00 (equal to about US$286.00) and I commented that I hoped it would get him home. > "I hope so too. London's about 130 miles? With a bit of luck and if I keep the revs below 2000, we > ought to do it." > How much did he take on board? My calculator tells me about 25.8 imperial gallons and there were > probably about another 20 gallons still in it. So, say 50 gallons at GBPUS$554 for the full tank and > 130 miles to eat it all up, it would have cost him somewhere in the region of US$4.26 PER MILE! > Jeez, at that consumption, I guess you could work out the cost per firing impulse. Anyone care to do > it? I'm too tired..... > > Jonmac From stiker2126 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 5 20:54:31 2008 From: stiker2126 at yahoo.com (Henry Stike) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 19:54:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] wheel torque specs Message-ID: <333610.58797.qm@web30703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> well, we've lost the manual.... LOL..... putting back together the rear axles on this spitfire 1500, 79 and we are tryin to find the torque specs on the center nut..... BTW, they are very tight..... LOL.... and kinda difficult to get hubs off the axles... and that was where all the noise was coming.... one side bearing was pretty messed up..... Thanks Don & Henry From nmoseley at dccnet.com Fri Jun 6 00:19:59 2008 From: nmoseley at dccnet.com (Nick Moseley) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 23:19:59 -0700 Subject: [Spits] wheel torque specs In-Reply-To: <333610.58797.qm@web30703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1212733203_369500@mx.dccnet.com> Don + Henry: Driveshaft to hub nut = 120 lb/ft, 163 Nm per Haynes. Hope that helps Nick Moseley From stiker2126 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 6 05:02:40 2008 From: stiker2126 at yahoo.com (Henry Stike) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 04:02:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] wheel torque specs In-Reply-To: <1212733203_369500@mx.dccnet.com> Message-ID: <111442.23983.qm@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks Nick! yah, we misplaced our Haynes manual..... Hopefully will have this back on the road.... Next project will be rebuilding seats..... been meaning to do that for a few years....... Looks like thats gonna be a job, seatbacks and all --- On Fri, 6/6/08, Nick Moseley wrote: > From: Nick Moseley > Subject: RE: [Spits] wheel torque specs > To: stiker2126 at yahoo.com, "'Spitfire Mailing List'" > Date: Friday, June 6, 2008, 2:19 AM > Don + Henry: > Driveshaft to hub nut = 120 lb/ft, 163 Nm per Haynes. > Hope that helps > > Nick Moseley From maya2blue at juno.com Sun Jun 8 20:41:25 2008 From: maya2blue at juno.com (maya2blue at juno.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:41:25 -0500 Subject: [Spits] HS2's /needles/springs Message-ID: <20080608.214126.4944.1.maya2blue@juno.com> I have a US 1500 1978 Triumph Spitfire with HS2's (tagged AUC9831 & AUC9831R - handmarked on the top AUD9253 & AUD9256) I use K&N filters and a 4-2-1 exhaust manifold. I am using AN needles. I have no idea what springs are in place. My questions: 1) Is the AN needle okay for street use? 2) What springs do I need, and how do I tell what I have? tks. harve Harve Thorn (NASS #79) 531 Amen Corner ('78 1500 Spitfire) Fayetteville, AR (looking for a "nice" GT6) 72701 USA 479.443.0818 evenings or lv msg ____________________________________________________________ Sweepstakes!!! Enter for your chance to WIN a summer spa getaway! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/JKFkuJi7UjkoECVh3iN1VO0UdurX7cZxeGMWApw2c60wCAdSXmqrhe/ From spitlist at cox.net Sun Jun 8 21:05:38 2008 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:05:38 -0700 Subject: [Spits] [TR] HS2's /needles/springs In-Reply-To: <20080608.214126.4944.1.maya2blue@juno.com> References: <20080608.214126.4944.1.maya2blue@juno.com> Message-ID: <001801c8c9dd$b1fd1dd0$0302a8c0@newcomputer> Harve, Since the HS2's were never placed on a Spitfire1500 at the factory, it is hard to say how the AN needles will work. I tried a pair on a 1500 a few years ago and found that there was a flat spot about 4000 rpm and the car accelerated up to that point just fine but when it reached that magic point, it was if someone shut off the ignition switch. If I lifted a bit, it would pick back up. I tried a few other needles but never did get it to perform the way I thought it should. Joe -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces+spitlist=cox.net at autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces+spitlist=cox.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of maya2blue at juno.com Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 7:41 PM To: nass at yahoogroups.com; NASS-club at yahoogroups.com; spitfires at autox.team.net; spitfire-enthusiast at yahoogroups.com; triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: [TR] HS2's /needles/springs I have a US 1500 1978 Triumph Spitfire with HS2's (tagged AUC9831 & AUC9831R - handmarked on the top AUD9253 & AUD9256) I use K&N filters and a 4-2-1 exhaust manifold. I am using AN needles. I have no idea what springs are in place. My questions: 1) Is the AN needle okay for street use? 2) What springs do I need, and how do I tell what I have? tks. harve Harve Thorn (NASS #79) 531 Amen Corner ('78 1500 Spitfire) Fayetteville, AR (looking for a "nice" GT6) 72701 USA 479.443.0818 evenings or lv msg ____________________________________________________________ Summer Spa Sweepstakes Enter for your chance to WIN a Summer Spa Vacation! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/JKFkuJi7UbfIOIjDpzwyIvLvSrSoZoJf IlZJcZo7fDciujA8X39e3H/ This list supported in part by the Vintage Triumph Register http://www.vtr.org Triumphs at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs You are subscribed as spitlist at cox.net http://www.team.net/archive From stiker2126 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 9 06:17:16 2008 From: stiker2126 at yahoo.com (Henry Stike) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 05:17:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] Running again! Message-ID: <448921.88178.qm@web30702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just wanted to let ya all know that Henry has the Spitty running again... It's been parked since last fall as the rear end was making terrible noises. He first thought it was the rear end he rebuilt, that maybe he didn't get the shims and preload right on it. After taking it apart and inspecting the Redline Oil in it, and looking at it all, which was beautiful and no metal parts in it, we checked axles... Hummmmmm, I don't believe there should be 1\4" side play in the right rear... So he made his custom hub puller from 1\2" plate, with hole in center and 4 holes to bolt hub to, then welded a cut off "puller" to it. With that we finally gor the hubs loose along with doing 2 other spare axles... We had to use one of them because the bearing surface was destroyed on the one. Anyways.... reassembled all, with lots of ant-seize grease on that big long rear end bolt, and new brake cyclinders and shoes and all is well again in Spitty Land.. The sad part was he didn't get it done in time to go to Louisville as he was planning especially since his Aunt lives there and his cousins go to school there.... Well, hope everyone is getting their cars running for the summer.... Don & Henry From maya2blue at juno.com Mon Jun 9 12:47:58 2008 From: maya2blue at juno.com (maya2blue at juno.com) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:47:58 -0500 Subject: [Spits] SU's/needles/jets ?? Message-ID: <20080609.134758.5812.2.maya2blue@juno.com> I recently posted the following: "I have a US 1500 1978 Triumph Spitfire with HS2's (tagged AUC9831 & AUC9831R - handmarked on the top AUD9253 & AUD9256) I use K&N filters and a 4-2-1 exhaust manifold. I am using AN needles. I have no idea what springs are in place. My questions: 1) Is the AN needle okay for street use? 2) What springs do I need, and how do I tell what I have? tks. harve" A couple of notes that I received indicated that "perhaps" the numbers that were inscribed on the top of each carb (not the tag num) might stand for the jet. Is that correct? If so, where can I find info about what I Have. If not correct, what are they? tks all harve Harve Thorn (NASS #79) 531 Amen Corner ('78 1500 Spitfire) Fayetteville, AR (looking for a "nice" GT6) 72701 USA 479.443.0818 evenings or lv msg ____________________________________________________________ Click here for great computer networking solutions! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3oHgMaX36Y3mCBMCtlgm96dqj2nY4LRMTndy5KZcq5xRx7aY/ From jimmuller at rcn.com Mon Jun 9 13:57:40 2008 From: jimmuller at rcn.com (Jim Muller) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:57:40 -0400 Subject: [Spits] [TR] SU's/needles/jets ?? In-Reply-To: <20080609.134758.5812.2.maya2blue@juno.com> Message-ID: <484D52F4.32490.14990F52@localhost> On 9 Jun 2008 at 13:47, maya2blue at juno.com wrote: > I recently posted the following: > > "I have a US 1500 1978 Triumph Spitfire with HS2's (tagged AUC9831 & > AUC9831R... > 1) Is the AN needle okay for street use? > 2) What springs do I need, and how do I tell what I have? As far as I know SU needles normally had a 3-letter designation like AAE or ABL or something, so AN seems strange to me. I don't recall noting a jet number, never had to myself, but the needle numbers are usually stamped on the needle itself, as I recall on the shaft at the thick end, though maybe on the mounting flange. The springs were identified by a color, and as I recall there were three different stiffnesses. They were chosen for the airflow drawn by the engine, so unless you're swapping carbs from an engine of different size or one is busted you shouldn't have to bother with them. It's hard to say just what would be "okay for street use" without knowing more. But there is one person who can definitely help: Call Joe Curto. http://www.joecurto.com/ (718)762-SUSU (7878) He's the man. Jim Muller jimmuller at rcn.com From spitlist at cox.net Mon Jun 9 14:17:47 2008 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:17:47 -0700 Subject: [Spits] [TR] SU's/needles/jets ?? References: <484D52F4.32490.14990F52@localhost> Message-ID: <004901c8ca6d$e2592c40$2d02a8c0@Belkin> Joe might suggest the same needles he sold me. They were spec needles for a MGA 1500 engine and they DO NOT WORK! Joe Curry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Muller" To: Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [Spits] [TR] SU's/needles/jets ?? > On 9 Jun 2008 at 13:47, maya2blue at juno.com wrote: > > > I recently posted the following: > > > > "I have a US 1500 1978 Triumph Spitfire with HS2's (tagged AUC9831 & > > AUC9831R... > > > 1) Is the AN needle okay for street use? > > 2) What springs do I need, and how do I tell what I have? > > As far as I know SU needles normally had a 3-letter designation like > AAE or ABL or something, so AN seems strange to me. I don't recall > noting a jet number, never had to myself, but the needle numbers are > usually stamped on the needle itself, as I recall on the shaft at the > thick end, though maybe on the mounting flange. The springs were > identified by a color, and as I recall there were three different > stiffnesses. They were chosen for the airflow drawn by the engine, > so unless you're swapping carbs from an engine of different size or > one is busted you shouldn't have to bother with them. It's hard to > say just what would be "okay for street use" without knowing more. > But there is one person who can definitely help: > > Call Joe Curto. > http://www.joecurto.com/ > (718)762-SUSU (7878) > > He's the man. > > Jim Muller > jimmuller at rcn.com > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Spitfires at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires > > http://www.team.net/archive From maya2blue at juno.com Mon Jun 9 15:53:16 2008 From: maya2blue at juno.com (maya2blue at juno.com) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:53:16 -0500 Subject: [Spits] '77 Spitfier wiper blades?? Message-ID: <20080609.165317.5024.0.maya2blue@juno.com> Greetings... Anyone have an idea what the correct (ie -usable!) wiper blades are for the '77 Spitfier? What I have now is a Bosch product 12" long. Many tks any suggestions. Harve Harve Thorn (NASS #79) 531 Amen Corner ('78 1500 Spitfire) Fayetteville, AR (looking for a "nice" GT6) 72701 USA 479.443.0818 evenings or lv msg ____________________________________________________________ Make your vacation more memorable with a luxurious vacation rental. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nLySorrogGNScqt2eYliNxjoKv9UtwkpJ8RKlcdNoKWQYvW/ From doug at dougbraun.com Mon Jun 9 16:30:31 2008 From: doug at dougbraun.com (Doug Braun) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:30:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] '77 Spitfier wiper blades?? In-Reply-To: <20080609.165317.5024.0.maya2blue@juno.com> Message-ID: <907572.11525.qm@web603.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I have always bought longer blades and cut them down. The cheaper 100% plastic blades without the stainless steel strips are easier to cut down. Doug --- maya2blue at juno.com wrote: > Greetings... > > Anyone have an idea what the correct (ie -usable!) > wiper blades are for > the '77 Spitfier? > > What I have now is a Bosch product 12" long. > > Many tks any suggestions. From mark at bradakis.com Mon Jun 9 21:51:42 2008 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:51:42 -0600 Subject: [Spits] SU's/needles/jets ?? In-Reply-To: <20080609.134758.5812.2.maya2blue@juno.com> References: <20080609.134758.5812.2.maya2blue@juno.com> Message-ID: <484DFA4E.5000300@bradakis.com> What are the issues you are trying to fix? Knowing what the current problems are and what you are hoping to achieve will assist in getting needle suggestions that may work. mjb. From rbgosling at googlemail.com Tue Jun 10 01:54:33 2008 From: rbgosling at googlemail.com (Richard Gosling) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:54:33 +0100 Subject: [Spits] '77 Spitfier wiper blades?? In-Reply-To: <907572.11525.qm@web603.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20080609.165317.5024.0.maya2blue@juno.com> <907572.11525.qm@web603.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9f2527520806100054i1979e181p2ca68d6a6439eeda@mail.gmail.com> The original wipers were shiny metal (I'd guess aluminium since they didn't rust and weren't shiny enough to be chromed) and had a sprung hinge in the middle. This helped the wipers cope with the curve of the windscreen - particularly on the drivers side, where the bottom corner doesn't get wiped with off-the-shelf replacements because they won't bend round to reach it. My DPO replaced these originals with standard off-the-shelf replacements, but I found a pair of the original sort in the used spares at TRGB (Triumph specialist near Cambridge). I then replaced the rubber in these with new rubber from an off-the shelf wiper. I'm pretty certain they are not available new. I have no idea if these were used throughout production either - all I know is I found these things in a box of bits at TRGB and they were good! Sorry, I don't remember the length (and I can't measure it - the car died of rust about 5 years ago now :-( ) Richard From StagByTriumph at tscusa.org Tue Jun 10 16:07:09 2008 From: StagByTriumph at tscusa.org (Glenn A. Merrell) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:07:09 -0600 Subject: [Spits] [ISOA Project Stag:] 0608 TTA Stag Work Session Message-ID: <484EFB0D.9000909@tscusa.org> Greetings All, Here is a brief status update for the STTAG from the ISOA crew! Despite downpours, 99% humidity and 90 degree temps, the last of the top coats of paint have been stripped. This pushes us closer to putting paint back on. Chuck Montague, Don Sheldon, Mike Blonder, Richard Scholl, Bill Jensen, Mark Costello and yours truly managed to accomplish a HUGE amount of work and conclude one of the last filthy jobs of the project. Doors, body, door jams, boot and bonnet await only final DA sanding. This can be accomplished in a relatively short period of time since 90% of the paint is off, leaving only a patina of old primer to protect from the ravages of flash rust. We are actually seeing progress on other parts of the body. The welding repair to the driver side front quarter was completed as the last amounts of argon were spewed from Mr. Lincoln. A trip to shove an addition 80 cubic feet of argon mix back into a steel cylinder is scheduled for this week before any additional welding commences. The patch to the front wing went extremely well and inspired me to put the initial filler coat on the repair. Sadly covering up a seamless stitching in of the section. No overlaps here dudes! Next on the agenda: - dents repaired in the doors and boot and bonnet - dent pulling on the back lower apron of the trunk (nasty as these can not be accessed for good old fashioned metal bumping) - weld repair of exhaust hanger on trunk - final weld repair on front apron by Joe Pawlak So although it does not look like this Stag will be driven to Detroit in August 2008, I am quite impressed with these guys progress and dedication. Joe says, maybe running and on its wheels by the end of summer ... not all pretty and trimmed out, but running. More later. -- Glenn A. Merrell Chairman, Triumph Stag Club USA (2007-2009) The best trophies are miles on the odometer, stone chips in the paint, dead bugs on the windshield! From StagByTriumph at tscusa.org Thu Jun 12 10:02:29 2008 From: StagByTriumph at tscusa.org (Glenn A. Merrell) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:02:29 -0600 Subject: [Spits] [ISOA Project Stag:] TTA Stag restoration makes the Chicago Sun Times Message-ID: <48514895.2010304@tscusa.org> Hi All, Word is slowly leaking out about our little secret project ... The article can be viewed online here: http://searchchicago.suntimes.com/autos/news/998301,AM061108_triumph.article It also appears in today's Lake County News-Sun, The Beacon News, Pioneer Press, The Courier News, The Herald News, and Southtown Star. Whooo HOOOO!! Thank you Andy Mikonis for the article!! -- Glenn A. Merrell Chairman, Triumph Stag Club USA (2007-2009) The best trophies are miles on the odometer, stone chips in the paint, dead bugs on the windshield! From mmilkevitch at yahoo.com Fri Jun 13 06:57:11 2008 From: mmilkevitch at yahoo.com (Matthew Milkevitch) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 05:57:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] Tire Pressures Message-ID: <57725.2690.qm@web50910.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hello Listers: Would anyone know the correct tire pressures for a '77 Spitfire? I think mine need "topping up" and I forget the correct pressures... Thanks, Matt Milkevitch 1977 Spitfire Willow Grove, PA From growe58 at hotmail.com Fri Jun 13 07:32:51 2008 From: growe58 at hotmail.com (Greg Rowe) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:32:51 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Tire Pressures In-Reply-To: <57725.2690.qm@web50910.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <57725.2690.qm@web50910.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: My 1978 owners manual reprint shows 21 lbs front and 26 rear. But keep in mind that reflects the level of tire technology of 30 years ago plus (IMHO) a overly cautious response to the oversteer tendencies of the rear suspension. There are lots of different opinions on this plus ways to fine tune the pressures with a tire thermometer. Suffice to say that with today's fuel costs plus tire improvements, you probably want 8-10 lbs MORE than originally recommended. I personally run 35 all around to reduce understeer although the tires do tend to wear more in the center. Don't exceed the maximum pressure rating of the tire. Best! Greg Rowe Hatfield PA> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 05:57:11 -0700> From: mmilkevitch at yahoo.com> To: spitfires at autox.team.net> Subject: [Spits] Tire Pressures> > Hello Listers:> Would anyone know the correct tire pressures for a '77> Spitfire? I think mine need "topping up" and I forget the correct> pressures...> Thanks,> Matt Milkevitch> 1977 Spitfire> Willow Grove, PA> _______________________________________________> _________________________________________________________________ Its easy to add contacts from Facebook and other social sites through Windows Live Messenger. Learn how. https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnHow From Mackmi at usa.redcross.org Fri Jun 13 07:51:04 2008 From: Mackmi at usa.redcross.org (Mackmi at usa.redcross.org) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:51:04 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Tire Pressures In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <32B95304CB44EF4E81483EEA6D0597829908@brnyrchex2.bio.ri.redcross.net> With 175/70-13 tires, I have found that 29psi all around is very satisfactory. Mike Mack 79 Spit 70 GT6+ 74 VW Thing -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces+mackmi=usa.redcross.org at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces+mackmi=usa.redcross.org at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Rowe Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 9:33 AM To: spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spits] Tire Pressures My 1978 owners manual reprint shows 21 lbs front and 26 rear. But keep in mind that reflects the level of tire technology of 30 years ago plus (IMHO) a overly cautious response to the oversteer tendencies of the rear suspension. There are lots of different opinions on this plus ways to fine tune the pressures with a tire thermometer. Suffice to say that with today's fuel costs plus tire improvements, you probably want 8-10 lbs MORE than originally recommended. I personally run 35 all around to reduce understeer although the tires do tend to wear more in the center. Don't exceed the maximum pressure rating of the tire. Best! Greg Rowe Hatfield PA> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 05:57:11 -0700> From: mmilkevitch at yahoo.com> To: spitfires at autox.team.net> Subject: [Spits] Tire Pressures> > Hello Listers:> Would anyone know the correct tire pressures for a '77> Spitfire? I think mine need "topping up" and I forget the correct> pressures...> Thanks,> Matt Milkevitch> 1977 Spitfire> Willow Grove, PA> _______________________________________________> _________________________________________________________________ Its easy to add contacts from Facebook and other social sites through Windows Live Messenger. Learn how. https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnHow Spitfires at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires http://www.team.net/archive From opposumking at verizon.net Fri Jun 13 09:01:28 2008 From: opposumking at verizon.net (Nolan) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:01:28 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Tire Pressures References: <57725.2690.qm@web50910.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001f01c8cd66$5e7eb6a0$230bfea9@mde.state.md.us> > Would anyone know the correct tire pressures for a '77 > Spitfire? I think mine need "topping up" and I forget the correct > pressures... 21 front, 26 rear. OEM non-high speed spec for radial tires. Competition manual lists 26 front 28 rear. This is for earlier cars, non-radial tires. Myself, I've found 26 front, 22 rear to work pretty well. I've not done finer tuning of the pressures. I've run 30+ at various times. The ride becomes harsh and the vehicle is prone to skittering. From dwaldronca at shaw.ca Fri Jun 13 09:38:59 2008 From: dwaldronca at shaw.ca (Doug Waldron) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:38:59 -0500 Subject: [Spits] Tire Pressures In-Reply-To: <001f01c8cd66$5e7eb6a0$230bfea9@mde.state.md.us> References: <57725.2690.qm@web50910.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <001f01c8cd66$5e7eb6a0$230bfea9@mde.state.md.us> Message-ID: I have used a tire temperature gauge at an autocross test and tune day and found that 21 front , 26 rear gave the most consistent temperatures across the tire face. These were radial tires, Yokohama R032S. - Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: Nolan Date: Friday, June 13, 2008 10:02 am Subject: Re: [Spits] Tire Pressures To: spitfires at autox.team.net > > Would anyone know the correct tire pressures for a '77 > > Spitfire? I think mine need "topping up" and I forget > the correct > > pressures... > > > 21 front, 26 rear. OEM non-high speed spec for radial tires. > > Competition manual lists 26 front 28 rear. This is for > earlier cars, > non-radial tires. > > Myself, I've found 26 front, 22 rear to work pretty well. > I've not done > finer tuning of the pressures. > > I've run 30+ at various times. The ride becomes harsh and > the vehicle is > prone to skittering. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Spitfires at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires > > http://www.team.net/archive From frogeye at cox.net Fri Jun 13 15:07:03 2008 From: frogeye at cox.net (Alan) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:07:03 -0400 Subject: [Spits] New Rover UK sheetmetal for a 1974 Spitfire Message-ID: <009601c8cd99$6e074640$e5b10144@maind> I am active on the spridget list but new to this one I recently picked up a 74 Spitfire with a bunch of brand new sheetmetal. Both rocker panels and rear qtr panels. Plus 2 nice doors stripped and a trunk lid . Also a steel hardtop with the glass removed and headliner If you are interested before I Ebay these parts please contact me directly frogeye at cox.net Alan From davidt at opentext.com Fri Jun 13 15:11:30 2008 From: davidt at opentext.com (David Templeton) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:11:30 -0400 Subject: [Spits] New Rover UK sheetmetal for a 1974 Spitfire Message-ID: <98554F05BF1D8C4DB36E3B8330E2A79E04EB4B41@OTWATMX01.opentext.net> Where are you located? David ----- Original Message ----- From: spitfires-bounces+davidt=opentext.com at autox.team.net To: spitfires at autox.team.net Sent: Fri Jun 13 17:07:03 2008 Subject: [Spits] New Rover UK sheetmetal for a 1974 Spitfire I am active on the spridget list but new to this one I recently picked up a 74 Spitfire with a bunch of brand new sheetmetal. Both rocker panels and rear qtr panels. Plus 2 nice doors stripped and a trunk lid . Also a steel hardtop with the glass removed and headliner If you are interested before I Ebay these parts please contact me directly frogeye at cox.net Alan _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Spitfires at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires http://www.team.net/archive From jimmuller at rcn.com Fri Jun 13 16:42:28 2008 From: jimmuller at rcn.com (Jim Muller) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:42:28 -0400 Subject: [Spits] New Rover UK sheetmetal for a 1974 Spitfire In-Reply-To: <98554F05BF1D8C4DB36E3B8330E2A79E04EB4B41@OTWATMX01.opentext.net> Message-ID: <4852BF94.26786.4A90341@localhost> On 13 Jun 2008 at 17:11, David Templeton wrote: > Where are you located? That's exactly what I was gong to ask. -- Jim Muller jimmuller at rcn.com '80 Spitfire, '70 GT6+ From frogeye at cox.net Fri Jun 13 19:53:04 2008 From: frogeye at cox.net (Alan) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:53:04 -0400 Subject: [Spits] 1974 Spitfire sheetmetal and hardtop info Message-ID: <00c301c8cdc1$62d53020$e5b10144@maind> Many lister have asked where I am located. I realize sheetmetal and hardtops are tough on shipping issues so to answer a question asked earlier I am in Rhode Island about 10 mins North of Newport and 5 mins South of Fall River, Mass Alan From maya2blue at juno.com Sat Jun 14 15:53:18 2008 From: maya2blue at juno.com (maya2blue at juno.com) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:53:18 -0500 Subject: [Spits] oil cooler line gone! Message-ID: <20080614.165319.1640.0.maya2blue@juno.com> Greetings, Turned into my garage this evening and noticed a line of oil drops about 10 feet long! Hummmm.. Then found a 1 1/2 - 2 cup puddle of oil under the car.. Turns out that the longer of the two oil lines from the adapter plate to the oil cooler rubbed against a frame member and that last turn must have been final "rub" that caused the leak. Didn't lose too much oil - maybe 2 cups+.... Does anyone have any experience replacing these oil lines? I would like to go to a SS braided line - Appreciate any suggestions or BTDT answers... Many tks.. Harve Harve Thorn (NASS #79) 531 Amen Corner ('78 1500 Spitfire) Fayetteville, AR (looking for a "nice" GT6) 72701 USA 479.443.0818 evenings or lv msg ____________________________________________________________ Fabulous Spa Getaway! Enter for your chance to WIN great beauty prizes everyday! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/JKFkuJi7UrpeLMmzpdDjErgAjBEkxXa3xhloKgvrx6e0wARlZ9Jodq/ From v6spitfireguy at cox.net Mon Jun 16 07:26:47 2008 From: v6spitfireguy at cox.net (v6spitfireguy at cox.net) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:26:47 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Tires for our cars - sigh, again Message-ID: <380-220086116132647113@M2W029.mail2web.com> Listers, Here we go again - sometimes it get so frustrating - It is now time to replace the worn out tires on my Spitfire, and as with so many other things associated with our cars  I am finding it increasingly difficult to find the size I want. I currently have Sumitomo, 205/60 R13, which are OK. and replaced the BFG tires of the same size which are no longer available, which I really liked. Now it seems, unless you want to put wide rubber bands on 30 inch rims, these sizes are becoming obsolete. I personally DO NOT like the look of 40 and lower series tires on anything older than 1990 vehicles  and I don't care for the look of even 50 series tires on our cars. So my options now so far are, I may be able to order what is left of the Sumitomo if I can find them,  Or if not those, either these, Nankang-Tires XR611 205/60 R13 (never heard of them), or the Cooper 205/60r 13. Toyo are really too expensive at around 130 a tire -- Anybody have any experience with Cooper tires  good or bad? Barry Schwartz La Mesa(San Diego), CA P.S. I'm going to run out to a couple of stores locally that are "suppose" to have some of the tires I have listed, but I am NOT optimistic that they actually have any - Wish me luck - -------------------------------------------------------------------- myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft. Windows. and Linux web and application hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting From spitlist at cox.net Mon Jun 16 08:09:36 2008 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 07:09:36 -0700 Subject: [Spits] Tires for our cars - sigh, again References: <380-220086116132647113@M2W029.mail2web.com> Message-ID: <000b01c8cfba$9c49ad40$2d02a8c0@Belkin> I have used Cooper Sport Radial tires and find that they are pretty good. I would not shy away from them at all. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 6:26 AM Subject: [Spits] Tires for our cars - sigh, again > Listers, > > Here we go again - sometimes it get so frustrating - > > It is now time to replace the worn out tires on my Spitfire, and as with > so many other things associated with our cars  I am finding it > increasingly difficult to find the size I want. I currently have Sumitomo, > 205/60 R13, which are OK. and replaced the BFG tires of the same size which > are no longer available, which I really liked. > > Now it seems, unless you want to put wide rubber bands on 30 inch rims, > these sizes are becoming obsolete. I personally DO NOT like the look of > 40 and lower series tires on anything older than 1990 vehicles  and I > don't care for the look of even 50 series tires on our cars. > > So my options now so far are, I may be able to order what is left of the > Sumitomo if I can find them,  Or if not those, either these, > Nankang-Tires XR611 205/60 R13 (never heard of them), or the Cooper 205/60r > 13. Toyo are really too expensive at around 130 a tire -- > > Anybody have any experience with Cooper tires  good or bad? > > > Barry Schwartz > La Mesa(San Diego), CA > > > P.S. > I'm going to run out to a couple of stores locally that are "suppose" to > have some of the tires I have listed, but I am NOT optimistic that they > actually have any - > Wish me luck - > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft. Windows. and Linux web and application > hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Spitfires at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires > > http://www.team.net/archive From spitfiresrule at msn.com Mon Jun 16 12:22:08 2008 From: spitfiresrule at msn.com (MITCH D JOHNSON) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:22:08 -0600 Subject: [Spits] Tires for our cars - sigh, again References: <380-220086116132647113@M2W029.mail2web.com> Message-ID: Barry, I have had fantastic results from Cooper also. Now run them on my Truck and Buick. Last of the American made tires I've heard? Mitch D. Johnson 1965 Spitfire MK2 British Motor Club of Utah ----- Original Message ----- From: v6spitfireguy at cox.net To: spitfires at autox.team.net Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 7:26 AM Subject: [Spits] Tires for our cars - sigh, again Listers, Here we go again - sometimes it get so frustrating - It is now time to replace the worn out tires on my Spitfire, and as with so many other things associated with our cars  I am finding it increasingly difficult to find the size I want. I currently have Sumitomo, 205/60 R13, which are OK. and replaced the BFG tires of the same size which are no longer available, which I really liked. Now it seems, unless you want to put wide rubber bands on 30 inch rims, these sizes are becoming obsolete. I personally DO NOT like the look of 40 and lower series tires on anything older than 1990 vehicles  and I don't care for the look of even 50 series tires on our cars. So my options now so far are, I may be able to order what is left of the Sumitomo if I can find them,  Or if not those, either these, Nankang-Tires XR611 205/60 R13 (never heard of them), or the Cooper 205/60r 13. Toyo are really too expensive at around 130 a tire -- Anybody have any experience with Cooper tires  good or bad? Barry Schwartz La Mesa(San Diego), CA P.S. I'm going to run out to a couple of stores locally that are "suppose" to have some of the tires I have listed, but I am NOT optimistic that they actually have any - Wish me luck - -------------------------------------------------------------------- myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft. Windows. and Linux web and application hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Spitfires at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires http://www.team.net/archive From StagByTriumph at tscusa.org Mon Jun 16 17:04:17 2008 From: StagByTriumph at tscusa.org (Glenn A. Merrell) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:04:17 -0600 Subject: [Spits] Going Off List for a while Message-ID: <4856F171.7020504@tscusa.org> Hi All, I am going to be going off the lists starting the 20th of June as I transition into a new job. I need to do this because I have over 1000 emails in my Triumph inbox that I have not read, over 400 in the Triumph Stag inbox, so they are all going for the preemptive delete this Friday. However, my Triumph related email addresses will not change and I will be checking emails at least on the weekends, so keep in touch. Triumph Trans America 2009 Charity Drive Status will be updated at least monthly on the TTA site http://www.triumphstransamerica.org.uk Cheers! -- Glenn A. Merrell Chairman, Triumph Stag Club USA (2007-2009) http://www.triumphstransamerica.org.uk The best trophies are miles on the odometer, stone chips in the paint, dead bugs on the windshield! From mmilkevitch at yahoo.com Tue Jun 17 07:32:59 2008 From: mmilkevitch at yahoo.com (Matthew Milkevitch) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 06:32:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] Rubber Seal Residue Message-ID: <389662.29206.qm@web50904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hello Listers: First of all, thanks to everyone who informed me of what tire pressures they are running. Secondly...I would like to solict some comments on the following. Some time ago, I replaced the outer window seals on my '77. These are the rubber seals that "scrape" the outside of the drivers and passengers windows. Since their installation, I've noticed that if I clean these seals, a blackish residue is left on my cleaning rag...and also on the body work of the car. Has anyone else observed this? Is there any way to clean this residue complete off/out of the seal? Thanks for your comments... Matt Milkevitch '77 Spitfire From mark.jones at exxonmobil.com Tue Jun 17 09:04:05 2008 From: mark.jones at exxonmobil.com (mark.jones at exxonmobil.com) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:04:05 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Vinyl door capping Message-ID: I'm busy reassembling my Spitfire; would be nice to have it back on the road this month. I bought the vinyl door capping but found the ones I received were about an 1" too short from front to back. Anyone else found this? Also, has anyone tried using a piece of vinyl to make their own? It actually looks like it should be fairly easy to make. Mark 80 Spitfire 1500 From parrotthead01 at comcast.net Tue Jun 17 15:09:10 2008 From: parrotthead01 at comcast.net (Daniel parrott) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:09:10 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Vinyl door capping In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003401c8d0be$63998bf0$2acca3d0$@net> How about a veneer door topping? I took a 6 inch wide strip of matching left over veneer from my dashboard project and let it soak overnight in warm water. The next day, I carefully inserted the veneer between the door and the chrome window strip, and curved the veneer downward, holding the lower edge in place with the inner door panel. I let it dry thoroughly for a couple of days. Then I carefully trimmed the veneer ends to fit the top of the door. Because the end of the door nearest the door handle has several compound curves, I trimmed the veneer to fit, and painted the door black. Glued the veneer down and with a coat of urethane, it looks pretty good! -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces+parrotthead01=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces+parrotthead01=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of mark.jones at exxonmobil.com Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:04 AM To: spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: [Spits] Vinyl door capping I'm busy reassembling my Spitfire; would be nice to have it back on the road this month. I bought the vinyl door capping but found the ones I received were about an 1" too short from front to back. Anyone else found this? Also, has anyone tried using a piece of vinyl to make their own? It actually looks like it should be fairly easy to make. Mark 80 Spitfire 1500 Spitfires at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires http://www.team.net/archive From doug at dougbraun.com Tue Jun 17 16:18:44 2008 From: doug at dougbraun.com (Doug Braun) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:18:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] Vinyl door capping In-Reply-To: <003401c8d0be$63998bf0$2acca3d0$@net> Message-ID: <269249.63207.qm@web604.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I bought some repros about 5 years ago to replace my cracked originals. They fit OK, but they were about 1/2 as thick as the originals, and I think they will soon start cracking again. If I had to do it over, I would use some reasonably stretchy vinyl fabric, and attach it with spray adhesive. Doug Braun '72 Spit --- Daniel parrott wrote: > I'm busy reassembling my Spitfire; would be nice to > have it back on the > road this month. > > I bought the vinyl door capping but found the ones I > received were about an > 1" too short from front to back. Anyone else found > this? > > Also, has anyone tried using a piece of vinyl to > make their own? It > actually looks like it should be fairly easy to > make. From mark.jones at exxonmobil.com Wed Jun 18 05:53:44 2008 From: mark.jones at exxonmobil.com (mark.jones at exxonmobil.com) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 07:53:44 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Vinyl door capping In-Reply-To: <269249.63207.qm@web604.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I think I'll give the vinyl a try, although I did learn of fiberglass covers, which look like they would work well also. Mark 80 Spitfire 1500 Doug Braun To: Daniel parrott , mark.jones at exxonmobil.com, spitfires at autox.team.net cc: 06/17/2008 06:18 PM Subject: Re: [Spits] Vinyl door capping I bought some repros about 5 years ago to replace my cracked originals. They fit OK, but they were about 1/2 as thick as the originals, and I think they will soon start cracking again. If I had to do it over, I would use some reasonably stretchy vinyl fabric, and attach it with spray adhesive. Doug Braun '72 Spit From stiker2126 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 20 18:08:07 2008 From: stiker2126 at yahoo.com (Henry Stike) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] rear end troubles Message-ID: <412857.74585.qm@web30706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello one and all...... Since replacing the rear wheel bearings, we noticed a clicking sound in the rear.... So, we jacked spitty up and removed rear tires...... Trying to figure out what the noise could be, even thought new U-joints were used... What took us by surprise is the axles seem to be out of round somewhere because the whole wheel assembly, backing plate and all are kinda of wobbling around... You can see the axles are not turning perfectly around, but out of concentric some..... Can't figure this out, as axles are strait, not bent and new u joints pressed in and keepers seated.... Never seen anything like this..... oh, the half shafts out of the rear end appear to be turning perfect circles... so it seems it must be in the u-joints somewhere.... Question, Have any of you all seen this before.... any ideas? Don & Henry From jimmuller at rcn.com Fri Jun 20 18:52:01 2008 From: jimmuller at rcn.com (Jim Muller) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:52:01 -0400 Subject: [Spits] rear end troubles In-Reply-To: <412857.74585.qm@web30706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <485C1871.4522.292BBA59@localhost> On 20 Jun 2008 at 17:08, Henry Stike wrote: > You can see the axles are not turning perfectly around, but out of concentric some..... Are you sure the u-joint flanges fit properly into the mounting plates on the diff? Note, the four bolts form a rectangle, but not a square, so they shouldn't fit properly if you turn them 90degrees. (In fact, the bolts shouldn't even go in, if I remember right.) -- Jim Muller jimmuller at rcn.com '80 Spitfire, '70 GT6+ From growe58 at hotmail.com Fri Jun 20 20:47:24 2008 From: growe58 at hotmail.com (Greg Rowe) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:47:24 -0400 Subject: [Spits] rear end troubles In-Reply-To: <412857.74585.qm@web30706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <412857.74585.qm@web30706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The clicking noise may be the u-joints even though they are new. It's very common. Either the circlips are too thin or the flanges have become slightly spread open over years of use and the u-joint moves slightly back and forth as the axle turns causing that distinctive clicking. The solution is to put a shim under the circlip. You can cut one out an old soda can. As far as the axle being out of concentric, how are you seeing the rear plate jumping around? Are you running the wheels with the car on jacks? I've never actually tried it but I would think that would be normal due to the two u-joint flanges going through various combinations of angles while travelling through 360 degrees. Some of the angles are less "natural" than others and I would think that would tend to push the wheel against the suspension at varying rates giving that concentric look. Of course when on the road, the weight of the car would cancel all this out. I'm hardly an automotive expert so this is just a guess. Take it for what it's worth. But try shimming the u-joints and see if it gets rid of the clicking. You should be able to put the shim in without removing the axle from the car. Best! Greg Rowe > Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:08:07 -0700> From: stiker2126 at yahoo.com> To: spitfires at autox.team.net> Subject: [Spits] rear end troubles> > Hello one and all......> > Since replacing the rear wheel bearings, we noticed a clicking sound in the rear....> > So, we jacked spitty up and removed rear tires......> > Trying to figure out what the noise could be, even thought new U-joints were used...> > What took us by surprise is the axles seem to be out of round somewhere because the whole wheel assembly, backing plate and all are kinda of wobbling around...> > You can see the axles are not turning perfectly around, but out of concentric some.....> > Can't figure this out, as axles are strait, not bent and new u joints pressed in and keepers seated....> > Never seen anything like this..... oh, the half shafts out of the rear end appear to be turning perfect circles...> so it seems it must be in the u-joints somewhere....> > Question, Have any of you all seen this before.... any ideas?> > Don & Henry _________________________________________________________________ The other season of giving begins 6/24/08. Check out the im Talkathon. http://www.imtalkathon.com?source=TXT_EML_WLH_SeasonOfGiving From stiker2126 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 21 07:28:03 2008 From: stiker2126 at yahoo.com (Henry Stike) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 06:28:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] rear axles & u joints Message-ID: <392125.80561.qm@web30707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks for all the replies....... We had the car up on blocks,both sides, with the wheels & drums pulled..... then ran the car in gear.... to see this movement... the actual backing plates (whole assembly) are moving because of this out of round condition. I had also seen the wheel not rolling right while first walking next to it, and thought the wheel rim was bent. yes, first thought was did Henry get the 4 bolt ends together right and the circle ring on them all aligned right... must be yes cause there is no space between the plates.... Our next thought is possibly the new U-joints from Vicky Brit do not have the right thickness of circlips.... maybe enough to cause this out of round condition.... but it looks like it will all have to come apart again.... will definitely roll the axles on a straight I beam to make sure they aren't bent..... Then the next thing will be the U Joints..... that's a great tip of tapping with the hammer each direction then seeing if have slop in the joint... Will let ya know what we find out........ From bill at rarebits4classics.co.uk Sat Jun 21 08:08:24 2008 From: bill at rarebits4classics.co.uk (Bill Davies) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 15:08:24 +0100 Subject: [Spits] rear axles & u joints In-Reply-To: <392125.80561.qm@web30707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20080621135751.540B2187642@autox.team.net> > [mailto:spitfires-bounces+bill=rarebits4classics.co.uk at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Henry Stike > > Our next thought is possibly the new U-joints from Vicky Brit do not have > the right thickness of circlips.... You will need a selection of circlips to get the correct thicknesses, they WILL NOT be included as part of a UJ kit common to numerous other applications. Most applications do not require the tight clearances of the Spitfire driveshafts. This is why ANY Spitfire or Herald specialist should be able to advise what thicknesses are available, in addition to the standard circlips supplied with the kit. Cheers, Bill. From jimmuller at rcn.com Sat Jun 21 08:00:02 2008 From: jimmuller at rcn.com (Jim Muller) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 10:00:02 -0400 Subject: [Spits] rear axles & u joints In-Reply-To: <392125.80561.qm@web30707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <485CD122.29488.2BFD2A56@localhost> On 21 Jun 2008 at 6:28, Henry Stike wrote: > We had the car up on blocks,both sides, with the wheels & drums > pulled..... then ran the car in gear.... Do note that running the wheels in gear while the car is up on jackstands means the u-joints are at the extreme of their downward angle. This can give a misleading impression of how smooth, actually how *non-smooth*, they run. -- Jim Muller jimmuller at rcn.com '80 Spitfire, '70 GT6+ From dhlocker at comcast.net Sat Jun 21 08:36:47 2008 From: dhlocker at comcast.net (Donald H Locker) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 10:36:47 -0400 Subject: [Spits] rear axles & u joints In-Reply-To: <392125.80561.qm@web30707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <392125.80561.qm@web30707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <485D11FF.9090600@comcast.net> If the hub is not squarely on a straight shaft, it will wobble. If the shaft is bent, a squarely installed hub will wobble. A U-joint whose yokes are way off axis can make the hub wobble, but they'd have to be so far out that it would be hard to assemble them. I would bet on a bent shaft or cruft between the hub and shaft taper. You should be able to check shaft straightness in-situ by slowly rotating it and watching carefully. Then I'd pull the hub. I recall that you recently assembled the axle and hub, so it should separate relatively easily. HTH, Donald. Henry Stike wrote: > Thanks for all the replies....... > > We had the car up on blocks,both sides, with the wheels & drums pulled..... [snip] From kinneyjr at msn.com Tue Jun 24 07:06:38 2008 From: kinneyjr at msn.com (Jeremy Kinney) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:06:38 -0400 Subject: [Spits] FS: 77 Triumph Spitfire 1500 w/overdrive in VA Message-ID: I am posting this for a friend who lives in Winchester, VA. Please contact them directly if you are interested. NFI. ****************77 CA Triumph Spitfire 1500, low miles on late 80s restoration w/ electric overdrive, rebuilt eng, transmission, rear end, new tires & wheels, electric fuel pump, new rag top & interior @ time of resto.BRG w/ tan interior. $8000. email for further details and pictures:kalikiano108 at yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ Earn cashback on your purchases with Live Search - the search that pays you back! http://search.live.com/cashback/?&pkw=form=MIJAAF/publ=HMTGL/crea=earncashbac k From maya2blue at juno.com Tue Jun 24 14:00:47 2008 From: maya2blue at juno.com (maya2blue at juno.com) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:00:47 -0500 Subject: [Spits] weight of a finished factory hardtop Message-ID: <20080624.150047.3932.0.maya2blue@juno.com> Greetings, Does anyone know the weight of a finished factory hardtop? I am looking at various "hoisting systems" to lift my hardtop off of the car and store it (using the hoisting system) over my car but near the ceiling. Most systems have a weight limit and I have no way to weigh the thing! Many thanks your help, and any suggestions re a hoist system for a '78 spitifer hardtop Harve Harve Thorn (NASS #79) 531 Amen Corner ('78 1500 Spitfire) Fayetteville, AR (looking for a "nice" GT6) 72701 USA 479.443.0818 evenings or lv msg ____________________________________________________________ Click here for free information on earning a criminal justice degree today. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nNLMZcTsUpRLhvVUziZP1mchLccVPNasce6eNcU0g693KQY/ From wbmcleod1 at mac.com Tue Jun 24 14:13:35 2008 From: wbmcleod1 at mac.com (William McLeod) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:13:35 -0700 Subject: [Spits] Bumperettes wanted Message-ID: Looking for front rubber bumperettes in good condition for a later Spitfire. They would be going to Seattle to a friend. Thanks! Bill Slightly Classics Tucson From doug at dougbraun.com Tue Jun 24 14:57:32 2008 From: doug at dougbraun.com (Doug Braun) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:57:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] weight of a finished factory hardtop In-Reply-To: <20080624.150047.3932.0.maya2blue@juno.com> Message-ID: <429666.96536.qm@web607.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I would guess about 60 pounds. I have been suspending mine from the ceiling for years, and it has suffered no harm. Currently I have a single luggage-rack clamp-on crossbar. Attached to this is a system of ropes and pulleys. I remove all the bolts holding the hardtop to the car, clamp the crossbar to the gutters at the correct balance point, pull on the ropes, and up it goes. It's getting sort of hard to find those old-style clamp-to-the-gutters luggage racks, but I stumbled across a single one at a garage sale. The ropes an dpulleys are from the hardware store. The system is attached to the ceiling by a pair of eyebolts screwed into the ceiling joists. I don't think you need to buy a specialty product- all the things I used were from a garage sale or the hardware store. You can see a picture of my previous-generation system at www.dougbraun.com, but since then I have redone the hardtop liner, and moved to a new house. Doug Braun '72 Spit --- maya2blue at juno.com wrote: > Greetings, > > Does anyone know the weight of a finished factory > hardtop? > > I am looking at various "hoisting systems" to lift > my hardtop off of the > car and store it (using the hoisting system) over my > car but near the > ceiling. From cmyers at eiu.org Tue Jun 24 19:00:36 2008 From: cmyers at eiu.org (cmyers at eiu.org) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:00:36 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Help in identifying brake parts Message-ID: <39580.1214355636@eiu.org> I have been reading the list for years now but this is my first post! I am in the process of getting my spitfire back on the road after about ten years, I am losing my storage space and plan to make it into an every-other day driver. I just spent the weekend doing the GM alternator swap(works great) and sorting out the wiring. Now I am moving on to the brakes. The problem is that it is built from several different vehicles. It is a MK2 but It has a rotoflex rear end and a dual brake mastercylinder. My question is how do I identify the mastercylinder and the wheel cylinders. the wheel cylinders might be the spit four or the gt6. The dual line master cylinder could be later spit or TR6. Thanks for any help, Chris From nmoseley at dccnet.com Tue Jun 24 20:15:35 2008 From: nmoseley at dccnet.com (Nick Moseley) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:15:35 -0700 Subject: [Spits] Help in identifying brake parts In-Reply-To: <39580.1214355636@eiu.org> References: <39580.1214355636@eiu.org> Message-ID: <002701c8d669$5abff9a0$6400a8c0@yourb27fb1c401> Have a look at the Moss or Victoria British Spit catalogues on-line. There are two dual line masters that come to mind, known as the small-cap or large-cap, referring to the size of the cap on the plastic reservoirs. I _think_ they changed to the small mouth in 76. Aside from the caps on the reservoirs, the small-cap is longer than the large cap; mounting a small cap (longer) where a large cap was, will likely create clearance issues with the bulkhead. The threads in the master are different as well, so it will be best to replace with an identical unit. Regards Nick Moseley -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces+nmoseley=dccnet.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces+nmoseley=dccnet.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of cmyers at eiu.org Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 6:01 PM To: spitfires @ autox . team . net Subject: [Spits] Help in identifying brake parts I have been reading the list for years now but this is my first post! I am in the process of getting my spitfire back on the road after about ten years, I am losing my storage space and plan to make it into an every-other day driver. I just spent the weekend doing the GM alternator swap(works great) and sorting out the wiring. Now I am moving on to the brakes. The problem is that it is built from several different vehicles. It is a MK2 but It has a rotoflex rear end and a dual brake mastercylinder. My question is how do I identify the mastercylinder and the wheel cylinders. the wheel cylinders might be the spit four or the gt6. The dual line master cylinder could be later spit or TR6. Thanks for any help, Chris From dhlocker at comcast.net Wed Jun 25 17:36:08 2008 From: dhlocker at comcast.net (Donald H Locker) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:36:08 -0400 Subject: [Spits] some GL4 available Message-ID: <4862D668.8080304@comcast.net> I have a friend who had to purchase a small boatload of GL4 to get the quart-and-a-bit that he really wanted. I now have one gallon, but there are a few remaining. I don't think he wants to give it away, but it's not too expensive. Anyone interested? I'll pass on information to him. Donald. '69 +/- Mk-3 in Chelsea, MI From bdischer at blakedischer.com Thu Jun 26 07:57:16 2008 From: bdischer at blakedischer.com (Blake Discher) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 09:57:16 -0400 Subject: [Spits] NATC 2008: VTR/NASS Spitfire Rebuild Message-ID: Posted for Geof Bush. Long looked upon as the entry level Triumph, the Spitfire has been popular for a many years. Its popularity and affordability made it the longest running Triumph production (1962-1980) and the largest production numbers (314,332) of any Triumph produced. The North American Spitfire Squadron (NASS) is sponsoring the ultimate tech session at the 2008 NORTH AMERICAN TRIUMPH CHALLENGE taking place August 4th-8th in Ypsilanti, Michigan. NASS members will be supervising a 48-hour rebuild of a 1963 MKI Triumph Spitfire. Former NASS Membership Chair, Geof Bush, will be heading the team that will rebuild the Spitfire. Other NASS members planning to supervise the rebuild are John Gray, Dave Doehler, John Lamberg, Mark Jones, and Randy Joles. Shift supervisors can't do the rebuild alone. Many more volunteers are needed for the rebuild team. We need more volunteers to work each shift. If you can know which end of a screwdriver to hold or know the difference between a spanner and a roundy thing, you are more than qualified and welcome to join in to assist. If you are interested in volunteering or have any questions, please contact Geof Bush at My79Spitfire at aol.com . Full information about the 2008 North American Triumph Challenge (formerly known as the VTR National Convention) can be found on the event website at http://www.natc2008.com. From bdischer at blakedischer.com Thu Jun 26 08:11:07 2008 From: bdischer at blakedischer.com (Blake Discher) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:11:07 -0400 Subject: [Spits] NATC 2008: VTR/NASS Spitfire Rebuild - addendum Message-ID: <9CDD6BC8-192D-4E23-84CF-81CC196F892C@blakedischer.com> Sorry everyone for an important omission, I simply copied what Goef had written for the NATC 2008 event program. What I failed to mention is that for insurance reasons, volunteers in the NASS/VTR Spitfire Rebuild need to be registered for the North American Triumph Challenge. Please accept my apology. Cheers, and safe driving, Blake Discher From bdischer at blakedischer.com Fri Jun 27 19:48:27 2008 From: bdischer at blakedischer.com (Blake Discher) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:48:27 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Need help in Charleston, WV Saturday, noonish Message-ID: <26617B30-7750-43C2-B32A-AA3973E2DE88@blakedischer.com> I am driving from Detroit to Charleston, WV tomorrow (Saturday) to pick up the Spitfire we will be rebuilding in 48 hours at VTR's North American Triumph Challenge in Ypsilanti, MI this coming August. My co- pilot has called last minute to say that he cannot come with me, so Vernon Brannon and myself could use one or two people to help us move the car from his trailer to mine. We're both leaving at 5am, Charleston is the midway point between he and I. Mapquest says it should be about seven hours for each of us, so we expect to meet somewhere in Charleston between noon and 1pm. We have not set a meeting point, we're just driving till we meet up somewhere along Highway 77 using our cell phones to coordinate. I'll check email before I leave my house and I have my Crackberry with me as well. My phone number is 313-259-4460 and if anyone cares to lend a hand you can call me beginning at 6am. By that time I should be on my second cup of coffee and coherent. Thanks! Blake J. Discher 1976 TR6, 1971 Stag From my79spitfire at aol.com Sat Jun 28 15:33:54 2008 From: my79spitfire at aol.com (my79spitfire at aol.com) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:33:54 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Assistance Requested Message-ID: <8CAA77DCC9DDD01-ED0-535B@FWM-D11.sysops.aol.com> Good Afternoon Folks, We are looking for assistance in off-loading the MKI Spitfire that we will be rebuilding at NATC 2008 from the trailer tomorrow.? We would like about 3 - 4 other folks to assist.? If you can help us out, please email me at My79Spitfire at aol.com (My79Spitfire [at] aol.com) or call me at 734/645-0235 and let me know.? We will meet at John Gray's house at noon, Sunday, 29 June.? I will give you the address when you contact me. If you are a NASS member, a DTSC member, a VTR member or just someone willing to help, your assistance will be appreciated.? For those who don't think I am doing anything to earn my keep, trust me!? I am up to my eyeballs in it!! Thanks in advance.? This is going to be a great project.? Looking forward to seeing you all there.? www.NATC2008.com Geof Bush, #11 Spitfire Rebuild Project Manager Michigan From sinclair at degenkolb.com Sat Jun 28 20:47:30 2008 From: sinclair at degenkolb.com (Mark Sinclair) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:47:30 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Spitfire 1127cc running engine available, San Francisco, CA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello all: I'm about to remove the engine (1100) and 3-rail box from my Mk2 and upgrade to 1300. I'd like to get rid of the 1100 engine - any takers? It will be complete, only minus the alternator upgrade I added. It likely needs a rebuild - I think it sat for a long time and after I got it the rings never reseated properly, despite my best efforts ;-) It starts and runs around town fine, but when hot, and under load, the blowby causes oil leaks onto the exhaust. Top end sounds fine. Starter and water pump seem OK. This would really suit someone looking to rebuild an engine while theirs is still in the car. It may just need a clean-up and new rings. I didn't run a comp test, but it steadily improved after I got it - did the Marvel Mystery Oil thing etc., added breathers - it just never quite ran properly under load. If you're interested you can come and hear it run before removal. Clutch gave up so it's a little hard to drive, but we can probably arrange something. There is also potentially a 3-rail gearbox in the deal, and I have other misc parts I'd like to unload as well if you're missing anything. Not sure what it's worth - a few hundred bucks would be real nice, but I'm open to offers, particularly if you can help with removal, or better, if you can do bodywork. I'm not interested in dealing with shipping on this thing. Thanks Mark Sinclair San Francisco, CA - near Golden Gate Pk. From red_tr250 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 30 06:44:51 2008 From: red_tr250 at yahoo.com (Todd Bermudez) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 05:44:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] [Triumph_GT6_Enthusiast] GT6 Mk1 Bumpers & Seat diaphragms In-Reply-To: <486342.3353.qm@web54402.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <722334.53715.qm@web43135.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hi all, I'm trying to fit bumpers onto our Mk1 GT6. My first attempt installing the rear bumpers didn't go all that well. The brackets are a real PIA. Pretty sure they're both bent. One was off the car the other (under the tank) is clearly bent too much & will need to come off the car. I'm wondering if anyone out there might have a bracket that they KNOW is "OK" or correctly bent for a proper fit & would be able to make a trace of it & mail it to me? I can bend the brackets using a vise & a pipe wrench. As far as the front bumper goes, I have a bumper bar & over riders and the brackets. Any photos of how all that goes together? I see the parts diagram in the Bentley manual. Are those "distance spacers" nothing more than washers? Perhaps they're "cupped" washers? I don't have any so I can't tell. Last, the diaphragms on both seats are shot. Who carries them? Cheers, Todd Bermudez '68 GT6 MK1 RHD Cincinnati, OH From doug at dougbraun.com Mon Jun 30 13:34:16 2008 From: doug at dougbraun.com (Doug Braun) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:34:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] [Triumph_GT6_Enthusiast] GT6 Mk1 Bumpers & Seat diaphragms In-Reply-To: <722334.53715.qm@web43135.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <135541.54587.qm@web602.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> What's the "diaphragm" on a seat? Doug --- Todd Bermudez wrote: > Last, the diaphragms on both seats are shot. Who > carries them? From spitlist at cox.net Mon Jun 30 13:55:28 2008 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:55:28 -0700 Subject: [Spits] [Triumph_GT6_Enthusiast] GT6 Mk1 Bumpers & Seat diaphragms References: <135541.54587.qm@web602.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000901c8daeb$3f6c6fe0$2d02a8c0@Belkin> It's that rubber thingie at the bottom of the seat frame below the padding that keeps your butt from hitting the floor. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Braun" To: "Todd Bermudez" ; "Spitfire list" Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [Spits] [Triumph_GT6_Enthusiast] GT6 Mk1 Bumpers & Seat diaphragms > What's the "diaphragm" on a seat? > > Doug > > --- Todd Bermudez wrote: > > > > Last, the diaphragms on both seats are shot. Who > > carries them? > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Spitfires at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires > > http://www.team.net/archive From red_tr250 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 30 13:55:27 2008 From: red_tr250 at yahoo.com (Todd Bermudez) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] [Triumph_GT6_Enthusiast] GT6 Mk1 Bumpers & Seat diaphragms In-Reply-To: <000901c8daeb$3f6c6fe0$2d02a8c0@Belkin> Message-ID: <784386.37625.qm@web43141.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> FWIW, I called Spitbits...said they're "long gone" & offer straps to replace at the tune of 52.40 each. Cheers, Todd Bermudez '68 GT6 MK1 RHD Cincy, OH --- Joe Curry wrote: > It's that rubber thingie at the bottom of the seat > frame below the padding > that keeps your butt from hitting the floor. > > Joe > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Braun" > To: "Todd Bermudez" ; "Spitfire > list" > > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:34 PM > Subject: Re: [Spits] [Triumph_GT6_Enthusiast] GT6 > Mk1 Bumpers & Seat > diaphragms > > > > What's the "diaphragm" on a seat? > > > > Doug > > > > --- Todd Bermudez wrote: > > > > > > > Last, the diaphragms on both seats are shot. > Who > > > carries them? > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Spitfires at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires > > > > http://www.team.net/archive From doug at dougbraun.com Mon Jun 30 16:28:52 2008 From: doug at dougbraun.com (Doug Braun) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:28:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] [Triumph_GT6_Enthusiast] GT6 Mk1 Bumpers & Seat diaphragms In-Reply-To: <000901c8daeb$3f6c6fe0$2d02a8c0@Belkin> Message-ID: <677097.41998.qm@web603.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The older seats must be different than mine. My seats have the metal frame, a piece of heavy cardboard over that, then a molded latex rubber cushion, topped off by the vinyl upholstery. Doug Braun '72 Spit --- Joe Curry wrote: > It's that rubber thingie at the bottom of the seat > frame below the padding > that keeps your butt from hitting the floor. > > Joe From cmyers at eiu.org Mon Jun 30 19:26:50 2008 From: cmyers at eiu.org (cmyers at eiu.org) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:26:50 -0400 Subject: [Spits] [Triumph_GT6_Enthusiast] GT6 Mk1 Bumpers & Seat diaphragms Message-ID: <7040.1214875610@eiu.org> I have the same problem, mine are completely rotted, I found a similar item for TR's at TRF, it is back ordered but will let you know if it is comparable when I get it. If it doesn't work out I plan to make my own out of a heavy gage rubber sheet material. Chris Mk2- Alfa powered/ rotoflex