From frede.thomas2 at verizon.net  Fri Feb  1 10:27:42 2008
From: frede.thomas2 at verizon.net (FRED E THOMAS)
Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:27:42 -0500
Subject: [Spits] [TR] [6pack] Triumph Trans AmeriCan 2009 Charity Drive,
 January  2008 Donor Car status report
References: <005501c8649b$38fe2f70$6401a8c0@willec9tf0npwk>
	<63850.87247.qm@web82805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Count me in.  "FT"
====================================================================================================
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chuck Arnold" <triosan at gmail.com>
To: "oliver" <sumton at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: "Spitfires Mail List Members" <spitfires at autox.team.net>; "6-Pack" 
<6pack at autox.team.net>; "Ed Bratt" <bratt at sasktel.net>; "Triumph Triumph 
list" <triumphs at autox.team.net>; "TR8 Mail List Members" 
<tr8 at mercury.lcs.mit.edu>; <StagByTriumph at tscusa.org>
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] Triumph Trans AmeriCan 2009 Charity Drive, January 
2008 Donor Car status report


> Good looking car.  Hope it will work for the "Drive".
>
> I will donate $100.  Who does the check go to?
>
> Chuck
>
> On Feb 1, 2008 4:42 AM, oliver <sumton at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> OK list members.
>>
>>  i'll put in $100.  who'll match me?  we need 34 others to buy this.
>>
>>  ed - this probably won't forward to the other lists; would you do that
>> please?
>>
>> Ed Bratt <bratt at sasktel.net> wrote:
>>  Glenn:
>>
>> You see some pretty nice Stags for sale at reasonable prices.
>>
>>
>> http://thefreeclassifieds.net/cgi-bin/classified/classified.cgi?action=ViewAd&ID=1188577522&Lang=English
>>
>> Ed Bratt
>> Regina Saskatchewan
>> 1976 TR6
>>
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From StagByTriumph at tscusa.org  Fri Feb  1 10:38:23 2008
From: StagByTriumph at tscusa.org (Glenn A. Merrell)
Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 10:38:23 -0700
Subject: [Spits] [TR] Triumph Trans AmeriCan 2009 Charity Drive,
 January    2008 Donor  Stag
In-Reply-To: <d62.1121de28.34d47b49@cs.com>
References: <d62.1121de28.34d47b49@cs.com>
Message-ID: <47A3590F.409@tscusa.org>

Joe,

Wow!! 

I think it is a great idea for 35 listers to donate $100. 

I'll put up $100 also.  So that is now $200 and we only need 33 more 
$100, and if it can be negotiated down, the extra money can go into 
transportation costs to Illinois.

But if it is going to happen, it has to happen quickly as there are only 
16 months to get this car through a nut-n-bolt restoration.  Remember, 
regardless of initial condition, the car WILL be restored to at least a 
370 point car before the drive.  The better the car, the easier the 
concours restoration.

The details are not completely worked out yet, I would bet that everyone 
putting up $100 would also get a book of raffle tickets as a chance to 
win this car back.

Okay, any more people wishing to help secure this car for this restoration?

Lets GO!!

Glenn Merrell

N197TR4 at cs.com wrote:
> Lists:
>
> Dave, This looks like a very nice Stag for the money.
>
> http://thefreeclassifieds.net/cgi-bin/classified/classified.cgi?action=ViewAd&
> ID=1188577522&Lang=English
>
> I think JonMac would look good in this car.
>
> I am in for $100   if the transaction proceeds.
>
> Regards,,
>
> Joe A
> Jesup, Iowa
>
> PS: This will enhance the Triumph name and the value of Stags, certainly.
>
>
>   
>> OK list members.
>>    
>>   i'll put in $100.  who'll match me?  we need 34 others to buy this.
>>    
>>   ed - this probably won't forward to the other lists; would you do that 
>> please?
>>
>>
>>     
>
>   

-- 
Glenn A. Merrell
Chairman, Triumph Stag Club USA (2007-2009)
The best trophies are miles on the odometer, stone chips in the paint, dead bugs on the windshield!

From StagByTriumph at tscusa.org  Fri Feb  1 11:28:16 2008
From: StagByTriumph at tscusa.org (Glenn A. Merrell)
Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 11:28:16 -0700
Subject: [Spits] [TR] Triumph Trans AmeriCan 2009 Charity Drive,
 January    2008 Donor  Stag - for real?
In-Reply-To: <d62.1121de28.34d47b49@cs.com>
References: <d62.1121de28.34d47b49@cs.com>
Message-ID: <47A364C0.7020201@tscusa.org>

Joe,

Wow!!

Of course, this must be validated as a genuine sale vehicle before any 
money is collected.  Is there anyone local who can go take a look at 
this car?

I think it is a great idea for 35 listers to donate $100.

Once it is validated, I'll put up $100 toward the purchase also.  So 
that is now $200 and we only need 33 more
$100, and if it can be negotiated down, the extra money can go into
transportation costs to Illinois.

But if it is going to happen, it has to happen quickly as there are only
16 months to get this car through a nut-n-bolt restoration.  Remember,
regardless of initial condition, the car WILL be restored to at least a
370 point car before the drive.  The better the car, the easier the
concours restoration.

The details are not completely worked out yet, I would bet that everyone
putting up $100 would also get a book of raffle tickets as a chance to
win this car back.

Okay, any more people wishing to help secure this car for this restoration?

Lets GO!!

Glenn Merrell

N197TR4 at cs.com wrote:
> Lists:
>
> Dave, This looks like a very nice Stag for the money.
>
> http://thefreeclassifieds.net/cgi-bin/classified/classified.cgi?action=ViewAd&
> ID=1188577522&Lang=English
>
> I think JonMac would look good in this car.
>
> I am in for $100   if the transaction proceeds.
>
> Regards,,
>
> Joe A
> Jesup, Iowa
>
> PS: This will enhance the Triumph name and the value of Stags, certainly.
>
>
>   
>> OK list members.
>>    
>>   i'll put in $100.  who'll match me?  we need 34 others to buy this.
>>    
>>   ed - this probably won't forward to the other lists; would you do that 
>> please?
>>
>>
>>     
>
>   

-- 
Glenn A. Merrell
Chairman, Triumph Stag Club USA (2007-2009)
The best trophies are miles on the odometer, stone chips in the paint, 
dead bugs on the windshield!

From StagByTriumph at tscusa.org  Fri Feb  1 13:34:42 2008
From: StagByTriumph at tscusa.org (Glenn A. Merrell)
Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 13:34:42 -0700
Subject: [Spits] [TR] Triumph Trans AmeriCan 2009 Charity Drive,
 January   2008 Donor  Stag
In-Reply-To: <bf7.2829be33.34d4cc64@cs.com>
References: <bf7.2829be33.34d4cc64@cs.com>
Message-ID: <47A38262.30309@tscusa.org>

According to the list Oliver put up, officially 6, but I had two more 
contact me off list.  So it looks like 8 so far in about what, 30 minutes??
http://www.ranteer.com/misc2/

I will be calling Jody Gorman this evening to find out the details

I will be chatting with John Macartney via Skype today to find out the 
status of the raffle ticket booklets.

Dave1massey at cs.com wrote:
> In a message dated 2/1/2008 11:39:06 AM Central Standard Time, 
> StagByTriumph at tscusa.org writes:
>> The details are not completely worked out yet, I would bet that everyone
>> putting up $100 would also get a book of raffle tickets as a chance to
>> win this car back.
>>
>> Okay, any more people wishing to help secure this car for this 
>> restoration?
>>
>
> I'm in.  How many does that make? 
-- 

Glenn A. Merrell
Chairman, Triumph Stag Club USA (2007-2009)
SKYPE id is stagbytriumph
The best trophies are miles on the odometer, stone chips in the paint, dead bugs on the windshield!

From StagByTriumph at tscusa.org  Fri Feb  1 14:00:03 2008
From: StagByTriumph at tscusa.org (Glenn A. Merrell)
Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 14:00:03 -0700
Subject: [Spits] [TR] Triumph Trans AmeriCan 2009 Charity Drive,
 January      2008 Donor  St...
In-Reply-To: <c0c.29ec682e.34d4df42@aol.com>
References: <c0c.29ec682e.34d4df42@aol.com>
Message-ID: <47A38853.3040501@tscusa.org>

BearTranserv at aol.com wrote:
> How about I put up the whole $3400 and a little more for parts...with  Ed's 
> discount of course, and keep the car after the event?
>  
> Robert B.  Houston
> Texan in New Mexico
>
> 63 TR4
Nice Robert ...
But this is a serious and bona fide event.
I' don't think the charity, nor  clubs donating the several thousand 
people hours of labor for  the nut-n-bolt restoration would go along 
with that one ...  =-O   Now that would be quite the deal, $3400 
invested for a $30K return.
The car is going to be used to generate tens of thousands to benefit 
charity in the form of the raffle the tickets sold during its drive 
across North America.

-- 
Glenn A. Merrell
Chairman, Triumph Stag Club USA (2007-2009)
SKYPE id is stagbytriumph
The best trophies are miles on the odometer, stone chips in the paint, dead bugs on the windshield!

From StagByTriumph at tscusa.org  Fri Feb  1 14:13:08 2008
From: StagByTriumph at tscusa.org (Glenn A. Merrell)
Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 14:13:08 -0700
Subject: [Spits] [TR] Triumph Trans AmeriCan 2009 Charity Drive,
 January       2008 Donor  S...
In-Reply-To: <bd9.293bb0ba.34d4e3f2@aol.com>
References: <bd9.293bb0ba.34d4e3f2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <47A38B64.50705@tscusa.org>

TR250Driver at aol.com wrote:
> Whatever the last bid is:  I DOUBLE  IT!
>  
> Seriously, I would fork over a C Note for a good  cause.  Besides I need a 
> Stag sometime.
> Count me in if it goes this way.
> Darrell
>
>   
Darrell
If you want to be placed on the list of pledging benefactor 
contributors, send your name, city/state and email contact with amount to
Oliver at sumton at sbcglobal.net
and he will add you to the list being maintained at
http://www.ranteer.com/misc2/

Although the Raffle tickets have not yet been sorted or printed, my 
thinking is that each $100 donated gets a raffle ticket book in return 
once they come available.

-- 
Glenn A. Merrell
Chairman, Triumph Stag Club USA (2007-2009)
The best trophies are miles on the odometer, stone chips in the paint, dead bugs on the windshield!

From StagByTriumph at tscusa.org  Fri Feb  1 17:09:01 2008
From: StagByTriumph at tscusa.org (Glenn A. Merrell)
Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 17:09:01 -0700
Subject: [Spits] [TR] Triumph Trans AmeriCan 2009 Charity Drive,
 January  2008 Donor  Stag
In-Reply-To: <09c101c86522$39a1fd30$6a5636cc@jdnet.deere.com>
References: <bf7.2829be33.34d4cc64@cs.com> <47A38262.30309@tscusa.org>
	<09c101c86522$39a1fd30$6a5636cc@jdnet.deere.com>
Message-ID: <47A3B49D.4050309@tscusa.org>

Randall wrote:
> I'm in, but ... doesn't it seem odd that this car has languished for 5
> months at such an attractive price ?  
>   
>> I will be calling Jody Gorman this evening to find out the details
>>     
>
> Hopefully that's the owner ...
>
> Randall
Fortunately one of our Club members in Georgia has received a bunch of 
photos from the owner and talked to the owner on the car condition a 
while back.  I am looking them over now.  The car, aside from being an 
early sanction 1971 vehicle (early or mark I)  has a few issues but 
considering it is to be restored, that is not a problem.  We could 
discuss with the owner about a donation.

However, ISOA also has a nice 1973 Stag lined up for a purchase that is 
$3300, and already in Illinois so transportation would be quite a bit 
less cost and effort.

 So one way or the other, the pledges will be able to be spent toward 
acquiring  a car for John.

I think this brings up the need to get an online pledge list rolling so 
when the North American charity side of things is set up, we have a list 
of pledges and can give proper tax deduction documentation for the 
monies collected.  My goal there is to have those details sorted by the 
end of February 2008.

I am happy to see such response toward this event at such an early 
period.  Do keep it up as we get the final details ironed out.

Cheers!

-- 
Glenn A. Merrell
Chairman, Triumph Stag Club USA (2007-2009)
SKYPE id stagbytriumph
The best trophies are miles on the odometer, stone chips in the paint, dead bugs on the windshield!

From standardtriumph at btinternet.com  Fri Feb  1 17:09:42 2008
From: standardtriumph at btinternet.com (John Macartney)
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 00:09:42 -0000
Subject: [Spits] [TR] Triumph Trans AmeriCan 2009 Charity Drive -
 DONATIONS TO BUY STAG
References: <bf7.2829be33.34d4cc64@cs.com>
	<47A38262.30309@tscusa.org><09c101c86522$39a1fd30$6a5636cc@jdnet.deere.com>
	<004001c86525$36344650$800101df@garage.local>
Message-ID: <00a601c8652f$e967ee70$0201a8c0@Bevan>

You guys are absolutely FANTASTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I really can't thank you enough for rallying round so soon, so quickly - and so generously.

Could this be a bit of bit of AmeriCan versus British competition? The UK Spitfire that's being 
raffled in the UK and Ireland only, came into our custodianship today - and I've already added it to 
Joe Curry's international database. This is a MINT Spitfire and whoever wins it in September 2009 
will have one helluva car. There are a few pix on the event website www.triumphtransamerica.org.uk 
but I'll be putting up a presentation of a further 20 odd pix I took of it a week ago.

Cheers, Jonmac


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Oliver" <sumton at sbcglobal.net>
To: <triumphs at autox.team.net>; <6pack at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph Trans AmeriCan 2009 Charity Drive, January 2008 Donor Stag


> check it out guys n gals!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> $1500 in less than 8 hours!!!!!!!!
>
> Who's next?  Let's break $2k tonight!!!
>
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From TR250Driver at aol.com  Thu Feb  7 15:43:48 2008
From: TR250Driver at aol.com (TR250Driver at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 17:43:48 EST
Subject: [Spits] [TR] Hemmings Article
Message-ID: <bbe.224cf8cc.34dce3a4@aol.com>

In a message dated 2/7/2008 12:41:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
75TR6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org writes:

Hemmings  has an article on the money that the List raised to purchase the
Stag  http://tinyurl.com/252ljq






Bob,
That's great and now we have a UK Spec Spitfire donation to be raffled  off 
in CA!  Now that's News! Are you kidding me! I'm telling all  now that one will 
get some action from yours truly. What was that about the  beauty of those 
twin SU's?  OH My this could get serious.
Cheers,
Darrell 



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From standardtriumph at btinternet.com  Thu Feb  7 17:10:49 2008
From: standardtriumph at btinternet.com (John Macartney)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 00:10:49 -0000
Subject: [Spits] [TR] Hemmings Article
References: <bbe.224cf8cc.34dce3a4@aol.com>
Message-ID: <01ed01c869e7$0fd68ce0$0201a8c0@Bevan>

Darrell Floyd wrote:
> That's great and now we have a UK Spec Spitfire donation to be raffled  off
> in CA!  Now that's News! Are you kidding me! I'm telling all  now that one will
> get some action from yours truly. What was that about the  beauty of those
> twin SU's?  OH My this could get serious.

*Could* get serious????? I've been serious about this event for the better part of two years in 
terms of planning it :::)))

For the record Darrell, the original plan was to raffle the Spitfire in California but that event 
has been brought forward to May 2009 where the draw will take place on Standard-Triumph Marque Day 
in the UK. Just to stop any hares running, tickets for the Spitfire raffle are restricted only to 
the UK and Eire in view of the fact it's a late model car and we gotta have something for the guys 
who can't come. The whole of the USA and Canada will get the chance to buy raffle tickets for the 
Stag and their availability will be announced quite soon.

Jonmac 

From standardtriumph at btinternet.com  Thu Feb  7 17:23:52 2008
From: standardtriumph at btinternet.com (John Macartney)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 00:23:52 -0000
Subject: [Spits] Triumph Trans-AmeriCan Charity Drive 2009
References: <bbe.224cf8cc.34dce3a4@aol.com>
Message-ID: <020401c869e8$e2bf5be0$0201a8c0@Bevan>

Listers

We're seventeen months out from the start of this crazy drive I'm planning on doing - but the event 
actually GETS UNDERWAY this coming weekend.

As some may be aware, next Sunday is Triumph Spares Day in the UK and I know some listers are on 
their way to the UK as I write. Glenn Merrell is one of them and Paul Higley from Red River Triumph 
is another. So, to celebrate the start of the 2008 season, the UK spec Spitfire will be on the 
Triumph Sports Six Stand at Stoneleigh, sporting appropriate Triumph Trans-AmeriCa signage (and 
polish) to hopefully make as many people as possible aware of the launch of raffle ticket sales for 
this stupendously restored car.

I went down to my garage this evening to make sure it was hale and hearty and decided to start her 
in readiness for her trip on the trailer. Wriggled inside with difficulty, inserted key, pulled out 
choke and twisted to start. Er unk, er unk er unk.

I'll be fitting a new battery tomorrow - and possibly a new alternator over the weekend. Maybe some 
benevolent Stoneleigh trader may care to donate one? :)

Jonmac

From TR250Driver at aol.com  Fri Feb  8 13:09:46 2008
From: TR250Driver at aol.com (TR250Driver at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 15:09:46 EST
Subject: [Spits] [TR] Hemmings Article
Message-ID: <d0c.26f09887.34de110a@aol.com>

In a message dated 2/7/2008 7:10:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
standardtriumph at btinternet.com writes:

Just to  stop any hares running, tickets for the Spitfire raffle are 
restricted only to  
the UK and Eire in view of the fact it's a late model car and we gotta  have 
something for the guys 
who can't come.



AH Sucks John,
I always wanted one of the "Rest of the World" Spitfires.  Come to  think 
about it I want a R.O.W. TR6 too.  Throw in a UK Spec TR7 with the  beauty of the 
Twin SU fitment and absence of all the smog  equipment. It just ain't fair 
that we have the so called Federal  Versions of all the cool TR's. However,  I'm 
good with the Stag in CA,  that's fine. Was there a UK Stag Version?
Cheers,
Darrell 



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From standardtriumph at btinternet.com  Fri Feb  8 16:03:07 2008
From: standardtriumph at btinternet.com (John Macartney)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 23:03:07 -0000
Subject: [Spits] [TR] Hemmings Article
References: <d0c.26f09887.34de110a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <028201c86aa6$c4d7c6d0$0201a8c0@Bevan>

Darrell Floyd wrote:

AH Sucks John, I always wanted one of the "Rest of the World" Spitfires.  Come
to think about it I want a R.O.W. TR6 too.

You mean the car with petrol injection, of course. The faster noisier version
:) Sure, still plenty around though for a good one, best budget for spending
upwards of US$16k.

Throw in a UK Spec TR7 with the beauty of the Twin SU fitment and absence of
all the smog equipment. It just ain't fair that we have the so called Federal
Versions of all the cool TR's. However,  I'm good with the Stag in CA, that's
fine.

Was there a UK Stag Version?

Was there a UK Stag version, the man says;):):)  Sure was Darrell. Considering
the car was originally designed for the US market but failed to 'take off' (no
need to go there) we carried on building 'em here and built 25,000 odd. The
R.O.W. version had a bit more umph than the Federal car with around 145BHp on
tap. Good ones here are now commanding prices upwards of US$20k.

Cheers, Jonmac

From mchmura at umassp.edu  Wed Feb 13 12:00:49 2008
From: mchmura at umassp.edu (Chmura, Mike)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:00:49 -0500
Subject: [Spits] (no subject)
Message-ID: <ECB7018303A0474781B2F617FF8CAAFCCB4F61@EXCHANGECL1.ad.umassp.edu>

SET SPITFIRES DIGEST

From stiker2126 at yahoo.com  Fri Feb 15 06:32:10 2008
From: stiker2126 at yahoo.com (Henry Stike)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:32:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spits] test1
Message-ID: <792139.5623.qm@web30703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

just a test to see if working....




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From JHMDDS at aol.com  Tue Feb 19 08:12:27 2008
From: JHMDDS at aol.com (JHMDDS at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:12:27 EST
Subject: [Spits] Rubber Plug Source
Message-ID: <bd8.2ae47dfa.34ec4bdb@aol.com>

Does anyone have a source for the firewall plug that is really 2 plugs in  
one, a large, round (11/4") and a thin rectangular one?   The  holes are on the 
vertical firewall just behind the coil.  Hope this makes  sense.
 
Thanks,
 
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From fpspitfire at insightbb.com  Wed Feb 20 07:52:43 2008
From: fpspitfire at insightbb.com (fpspitfire at insightbb.com)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:52:43 -0600
Subject: [Spits] 1500 heads
Message-ID: <f66eb4ae545d.47bbea5b@insightbb.com>

Does anyone know the numbers for the 73/74 head with the 1.44" vales?  Not the engine numbers, the head numbers?

From stagbytriumph at tscusa.org  Thu Feb 21 20:22:06 2008
From: stagbytriumph at tscusa.org (Glenn A. Merrell)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:22:06 -0700
Subject: [Spits] [6pack] Triumphtransameria Donation
In-Reply-To: <cd2.29db6475.34ef7044@aol.com>
References: <cd2.29db6475.34ef7044@aol.com>
Message-ID: <47BE3FDE.10205@tscusa.org>

TRDOCTOR at aol.com wrote:
> Our Club met the other night and it was decided that we donate to cause for  
> the purchase of the Stag. Were do we send the money (don't even think about  
> it. I know who most of you are and I can find out where the rest of you live  
> ;-)) and can you take PayPal?
>  
> Sam and Carol Clark 
> Green Country Triumphs 
> TS45355L  O
> CC82030U O
> Cell: 918-625-6798
>
>   
Excellent! 

Thank you Sam & Carol, and the Green Country Triumphs Membership.
No, we can not accept PayPal or credit cards as of yet.   So best method 
is by check at this time.  Besides, it creates a better traceable 
contribution.

I hope more clubs step up as Green Country Triumphs have to assist this 
effort.

Please  visit the website setup by David "Oliver" Northrup of the Red 
River Triumph Club for the pledge and donation information at 
http://www.ranteer.com/misc2
and of course visit the Triumph Trans AmeriCan 2009 Charity Drive site 
at http://www.triumphtransamerica.org.uk/

I would like to remind those who have pledged, and those wishing to 
donate to please send in your donation ASAP, as the decision has been 
made to purchase the very complete Stag in Illinois as soon as funds are 
available so restoration can begin immediately.

Thanks Again!
Cheers!

Glenn Merrell
TTA 2009 Restoration Coordinator
TSN Admin
TSC USA Chairman (2007-2009)
President (2001-2007)
"The Best trophies are miles on the odometer, stone chips in the paint, 
and dead bugs on the windshield!"

From fpspitfire at insightbb.com  Fri Feb 22 17:58:12 2008
From: fpspitfire at insightbb.com (fpspitfire at insightbb.com)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:58:12 -0500
Subject: [Spits] [Fot] 1500 heads
In-Reply-To: <7DBDC80F-D17E-4E4B-BA75-E32FEF01C26E@mac.com>
References: <f66eb4ae545d.47bbea5b@insightbb.com>
	<47BD38F6.7030508@inet.net.nz>
	<7DBDC80F-D17E-4E4B-BA75-E32FEF01C26E@mac.com>
Message-ID: <f5ad85518fe.47bf2954@insightbb.com>

I get home tomorrow and I'll look at all my heads.  

Piston Rings arrived today.  I now have everything I need to finish the engine except the clutch pressure plate (thanks Joe).

Should have the motor together this weekend and in the car with everything hooked up except the front shocks.

are you going to go with the TR6 pistons in the motor?  I've talked to a few people and noone is really doing it any longer.  new cams seem to have changed any benefits.  

aaron

----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Cypher <srcypher at mac.com>
Date: Thursday, February 21, 2008 21:20
Subject: Re: [Fot] 1500 heads
To: John Kipping <johnkipping at inet.net.nz>
Cc: fpspitfire at insightbb.com, spitfires at autox.team.net, fot at autox.team.net

> I have a stock 218139 head that has 1.44 valves in it; but I 
> also  
> have 515973/573 FP prepped heads that have 1.44 valves, and 
> one  
> TKC2748 head with 1.44 valves.
> John, what are the real differences in the heads (515xxx vs. 
> 218xxx  
> vs. TKCxxxx) if any?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> -Scott Cypher
> spitfireracer at xsmail.com
> SCCA #57 HP Spitfire 1500 #362573
> Reading, PA
> http://gallery.mac.com/srcypher
> 
> Shipwright's Disease.   Its a nasty affliction, 
> particularly when  
> owns a british car.  Then it can never be cured.
> 
> On Feb 21, 2008, at 3:40 AM, John Kipping wrote:
> 
> I think I must have serious problem, off the top of my head 
> there were
> four large valve heads - 218139, 218140, 218141, 218142. (it's the
> remembering the numbers that's the problem). I think they are 1500LC,
> 1500HC, 1300LC and 1300HC respectively. Somebody tell me I've 
> got these
> the wrong way round before I go and get help from a shrink - 
> it's eight
> years since I stopped with Triumph spares. aaaaargh
> John Kipping
> 
> fpspitfire at insightbb.com wrote:

From StagByTriumph at tscusa.org  Fri Feb 22 20:14:22 2008
From: StagByTriumph at tscusa.org (Glenn A. Merrell)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:14:22 -0700
Subject: [Spits] [TR] Triumphtransameria Donation
In-Reply-To: <47BE5844.1070507@newellboys.com>
References: <cd2.29db6475.34ef7044@aol.com> <47BE5844.1070507@newellboys.com>
Message-ID: <47BF8F8E.2040509@tscusa.org>

> TRDOCTOR at aol.com wrote:
>> our Club met the other night and it was decided that we donate to cause for  
>> the purchase of the Stag...
>  Steven Newell wrote:  am an exiled Nigerian ruling family, would like to donate to cause for 
> puchase of your veyr good vehicle. I will send JonMac a cashier's check 
> for $5000 and you send me a sack of $3000 in cash. Thank you very good.
>
> King Steven Newell
> Littleton, Nigeria
> '62 TR4 x 2 etc.
>   
So King Steven and Jim,

I expect then that Red River Triumphs can expect both of your kind 
donations in the next week?? 
http://www.ranteer.com/misc2/
BTW, I have not heard anything from RMTC, and John Macartney will be 
passing through Denver

ISOA is needing to get started on the Stag this weekend ...

If you prefer, you can make your donations directly to The Gift from 
Within Charity in Camden, Maine USA
http://www.giftfromwithin.org/

Cheers Gents,
Minister Barrister Solicitor Executor Uffda Stagchair TSCUSA

-- 
Glenn A. Merrell
Chairman, Triumph Stag Club USA (2007-2009)
The best trophies are miles on the odometer, stone chips in the paint, dead bugs on the windshield!

From jimmuller at rcn.com  Sun Feb 24 13:18:19 2008
From: jimmuller at rcn.com (Jim Muller)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 15:18:19 -0500
Subject: [Spits] solenoid or starter?
Message-ID: <47C18ABB.10943.1046EAC6@localhost>

Today being a nice day here in the upper right corner of the country, 
I tried to fire up the Spitfire.  No go.   So I hooked up my faithful 
portable starter battery.  Just a very slow whirr--wrr--wrr.  Not 
even close to being fast enough to fire.  My neighbor happened to be 
watching so he grabbed his portable starter battery.  Still nothing 
but a very slow whir--wrr--wrr.  So I cleaned up the terminals on the 
solenoid, the starter, the bell housing, and the chassis.  Actually, 
there is a line directly from the battery ground to the chassis and 
another from the battery ground to the bell housing.  Still no go.

This behavior has been coming on for several years, the starter 
seeming to have less and less oomph at turning the engine against the 
compression.  Something, either the wiring or the solenoid or the 
starter motor, is eating up all the juice.  Or, more techncially 
preventing any from getting through.  The wiring is easy to replace.  
Solenoids and starters cost money though.  So I'm open to 
suggestions.  Is there historical precedent (well, we are in the 
midst of a pecedential campaign, are we not?) for starters getting 
weaker?  Or solenoid terminals to crude up such that it still closes 
and the starter still turns but just has too much resistance?

Tanks,

Jim Muller
jimmuller at rcn.com

From pbaize at satx.rr.com  Sun Feb 24 13:28:27 2008
From: pbaize at satx.rr.com (Patrick Baize)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 14:28:27 -0600
Subject: [Spits] solenoid or starter?
References: <47C18ABB.10943.1046EAC6@localhost>
Message-ID: <000601c87723$d03082e0$6600a8c0@trixi>

Probably the starter, had the same problem with my 68 C10, slow turning 
while cranking, put in a new starter, what a difference

Patrick
63 Spitfire
74 Spitfire
71 Stag
68 C10


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Muller" <jimmuller at rcn.com>
To: "triumphs" <triumphs at autox.team.net>; <spitfires at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 2:18 PM
Subject: [Spits] solenoid or starter?


> Today being a nice day here in the upper right corner of the country,
> I tried to fire up the Spitfire.  No go.   So I hooked up my faithful
> portable starter battery.  Just a very slow whirr--wrr--wrr.  Not
> even close to being fast enough to fire.  My neighbor happened to be
> watching so he grabbed his portable starter battery.  Still nothing
> but a very slow whir--wrr--wrr.  So I cleaned up the terminals on the
> solenoid, the starter, the bell housing, and the chassis.  Actually,
> there is a line directly from the battery ground to the chassis and
> another from the battery ground to the bell housing.  Still no go.
>
> This behavior has been coming on for several years, the starter
> seeming to have less and less oomph at turning the engine against the
> compression.  Something, either the wiring or the solenoid or the
> starter motor, is eating up all the juice.  Or, more techncially
> preventing any from getting through.  The wiring is easy to replace.
> Solenoids and starters cost money though.  So I'm open to
> suggestions.  Is there historical precedent (well, we are in the
> midst of a pecedential campaign, are we not?) for starters getting
> weaker?  Or solenoid terminals to crude up such that it still closes
> and the starter still turns but just has too much resistance?
>
> Tanks,
>
> Jim Muller
> jimmuller at rcn.com
> _______________________________________________
>
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
> Spitfires at autox.team.net
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>
> http://www.team.net/archive 

From fishplate at charter.net  Sun Feb 24 14:00:52 2008
From: fishplate at charter.net (Jeff Scarbrough)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:00:52 -0500
Subject: [Spits] [TR] solenoid or starter?
In-Reply-To: <47C18ABB.10943.1046EAC6@localhost>
References: <47C18ABB.10943.1046EAC6@localhost>
Message-ID: <20080224210054.GFWP17353.aarprv04.charter.net@nocando-caf700e.charter.net>

At 03:18 PM 2/24/2008, Jim Muller wrote:

>This behavior has been coming on for several years, the starter
>seeming to have less and less oomph at turning the engine against the
>compression.

Can the starter be tested out of the car?  If it still drags, then 
you've eliminated everything else.  I'd then look at brushes or 
similar.  I think these things are pretty robust, absent a bad 
bearing they ought to be easily repaired or rebuilt at home...



Jeff Scarbrough      75 TR6 x 1, 76 1500 x 2, 78 1500 x 1, 80 1500 x 0.5
http://www.fishplate.org/vehicles/spitfire/
Athens, Georgia         #354 


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From StagByTriumph at tscusa.org  Sun Feb 24 21:02:03 2008
From: StagByTriumph at tscusa.org (Glenn A. Merrell)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:02:03 -0700
Subject: [Spits] John Macartney Charity 2009 Drive- Stag Restoration - update
In-Reply-To: <005201c866e4$1667b0d0$800101df@garage.local>
References: <005201c866e4$1667b0d0$800101df@garage.local>
Message-ID: <47C23DBB.1060300@tscusa.org>

Hello All,

We have selected the Stag that will be the subject of the full concours 
restoration, and it will be prepared by the Illinois Sports Owners 
Association and Triumph Stag Club USA members, beginning in about 2 
weeks.  Currently about 51 individuals and US Triumph Clubs have kicked 
in to purchase the car and begin the restoration, and the list of 
pledges is growing.  http://www.ranteer.com/misc2/
Please, if you can help support this effort, we would love to add your 
pledge to the growing list.  If in the UK, contact John Macartney for 
donations standardtriumph at btinternet.com

Within a few weekends, the disassembly should commence toward a full 
restoration. Photos of the progress and restoration teams will be 
available on the TTA web site at regular intervals.

As this restoration progresses, I will be asking for continued help from 
various suppliers, services, groups and individuals.  My hope is that 
enough donations will be received to completely restore this Stag 
without the need for the main charity to have to use some of its funds 
that would otherwise go to charity.

However, at this time I am looking for the parts for a Tate & Lewis 
conversion ZF 4 or 5 speed Automatic - for the Triumph Trans AmeriCan 
2009 Charity Drive Stag that will be driven by John Macartney for 10,000 
miles around North America. http://www.triumphtransamerica.org.uk/

Does anyone have contacts to purchase the parts needed for a ZF 
conversion, maybe someone would be so kind as to contact Tate & Lewis or 
Jonathan Finnis at Monarch directly to see if they will help support 
this cause somehow?
The car we picked out is a BW35 and I really do not want to send John 
off on a 10k mile drive around North America in a BW35 Stag driving our 
interstate highways at 4000 rpm.

My first option - request - is to have someone or a group donate or 
purchase the ZF conversion parts for the car.
Second option would be to purchase the conversion parts and source the 
ZF here in the USA.
Our fall back is to convert to a 4 speed with J type OD, but we would 
still need to source all the parts for that conversion.

So if anyone here can make inquiries and introductions to willing donors 
in this regard, myself, John Macartney, and the Charities benefiting 
from this Drive will greatly appreciate the efforts.

Thanks!

-- 
Glenn A. Merrell
Chairman, Triumph Stag Club USA (2007-2009)
The best trophies are miles on the odometer, stone chips in the paint, dead bugs on the windshield!

From r.gosling at penspen.com  Mon Feb 25 03:26:52 2008
From: r.gosling at penspen.com (Gosling, Richard)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 10:26:52 -0000
Subject: [Spits] solenoid or starter?
References: <47C18ABB.10943.1046EAC6@localhost>
	<000601c87723$d03082e0$6600a8c0@trixi>
Message-ID: <76458B73D88AF649B30C48899A95ACB09EF83F@sv-lon-exch1.Penspen.com>

Sounds very much like the starter to me too, I've replaced a couple in
my time.  Rebuild starters won't break the bank.


Richard Gosling
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From superluke at execulink.com  Mon Feb 25 10:00:14 2008
From: superluke at execulink.com (Luke Lewis)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:00:14 -0500
Subject: [Spits] solenoid or starter?
References: <47C18ABB.10943.1046EAC6@localhost>
Message-ID: <001001c877cf$e41535b0$8800a8c0@Kickass>

I had a similar problem a couple of years ago, and ended up finding that one 
of the starter brush leads was grounded out against the case (It had welded 
itself in place) so I only had one brush and a dead short pulling the 
power - I replaced the + wire too, it had been getting pretty hot! (BTW, 
being a cheapskate, I just heat-shrunk the lead and re-used it, it's been 
fine since)

Luke

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Muller" <jimmuller at rcn.com>
To: "triumphs" <triumphs at autox.team.net>; <spitfires at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 3:18 PM
Subject: [Spits] solenoid or starter?


> Today being a nice day here in the upper right corner of the country,
> I tried to fire up the Spitfire.  No go.   So I hooked up my faithful
> portable starter battery.  Just a very slow whirr--wrr--wrr.  Not
> even close to being fast enough to fire.  My neighbor happened to be
> watching so he grabbed his portable starter battery.  Still nothing
> but a very slow whir--wrr--wrr.  So I cleaned up the terminals on the
> solenoid, the starter, the bell housing, and the chassis.  Actually,
> there is a line directly from the battery ground to the chassis and
> another from the battery ground to the bell housing.  Still no go.
>
> This behavior has been coming on for several years, the starter
> seeming to have less and less oomph at turning the engine against the
> compression.  Something, either the wiring or the solenoid or the
> starter motor, is eating up all the juice.  Or, more techncially
> preventing any from getting through.  The wiring is easy to replace.
> Solenoids and starters cost money though.  So I'm open to
> suggestions.  Is there historical precedent (well, we are in the
> midst of a pecedential campaign, are we not?) for starters getting
> weaker?  Or solenoid terminals to crude up such that it still closes
> and the starter still turns but just has too much resistance?
>
> Tanks,
>
> Jim Muller
> jimmuller at rcn.com
> _______________________________________________
>
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
> Spitfires at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires
>
> http://www.team.net/archive
>
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From doug at dougbraun.com  Mon Feb 25 10:35:02 2008
From: doug at dougbraun.com (Doug Braun)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:35:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spits] solenoid or starter?
In-Reply-To: <47C18ABB.10943.1046EAC6@localhost>
Message-ID: <349913.37270.qm@web609.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Measure the voltage AT THE STARTER TERMINAL while
cranking.  One meter lead on the terminal stud itself,
and the other to the starter body.  It helps to use an
old-school analog meter for this, since it is not as
bothered by the rapid fluctuations in voltage as the
motor turns.  This test will tell you for sure if you
have a bad battery, cables, connections, solenoid,
grounding, etc.

If you see insufficient voltage (less than 8 or so?)
you can repeat the same test with the meter connected
DIRECTLY to the battery terminals.  This will tell you
for sure if the battery is doing its job.

You can proceed in this fashion to isolate the
problem.  For example, connecting the meter to the
battery positive terminal and the starter terminal
will show the voltage drop across the entire positive
circuit.  

Doug


--- Jim Muller <jimmuller at rcn.com> wrote:

> Today being a nice day here in the upper right
> corner of the country, 
> I tried to fire up the Spitfire.  No go.   So I
> hooked up my faithful 
> portable starter battery.  Just a very slow
> whirr--wrr--wrr.  Not 
> even close to being fast enough to fire. 

From lists at brits-n-pieces.com  Mon Feb 25 15:15:26 2008
From: lists at brits-n-pieces.com (Brits'n'Pieces (Eric Frenken))
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:15:26 +0100
Subject: [Spits] rockershaft pedestal
In-Reply-To: <001001c877cf$e41535b0$8800a8c0@Kickass>
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAPO6xBf31l1Dm6bMijCNPYbCgAAAEAAAALpEGS5M+xFMnYh+IuuWPLkBAAAAAA==@brits-n-pieces.com>

Hi List,

I'm in need of rockershaft pedestals for a '68 Spitfire. If anybody has some
using up shelf space and is willing to part with them please email me
off-list. Thanks

Eric

From stagbytriumph at tscusa.org  Mon Feb 25 21:25:29 2008
From: stagbytriumph at tscusa.org (Glenn A. Merrell)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:25:29 -0700
Subject: [Spits] [TR] John Macartney Charity 2009 Drive- Stag
 Restoration - update
In-Reply-To: <c75.277cfbcb.34f4289a@aol.com>
References: <c75.277cfbcb.34f4289a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <47C394B9.8030705@tscusa.org>

ZinkZ10C at aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 2/24/08 11:05:59 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> StagByTriumph at tscusa.org writes:
>
> << However, at this time I am looking for the parts for a Tate & Lewis   conver
> sion ZF 4 or 5 speed Automatic - >>
>
> It would be helpful to know what specific ZF model trans is needed and what
> cars it is typically found in.
>
> Harold
>
>   
Harold,
I am only now starting to look into this.  However I am told it is a 
jaguar ZF 4hp22 box with lock-up torque converter , using a mix of B/W 
35 /65 parts and jag parts.
There are more forum posts I need to go over to extract more details.

Glenn Merrell