From doug at dougbraun.com Sun Sep 2 18:02:17 2007 From: doug at dougbraun.com (Doug Braun) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 17:02:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] Weird engine idle In-Reply-To: <000801c7e8ee$57a1caf0$1342a8c0@semperon3400> Message-ID: <192242.3586.qm@web614.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Has anyone ever re-bushed a Spit distributor to fix sloppy timing? Can new bushings be gotten? Doug Braun '72 Spit --- "Clark W. Nicholls" wrote: > Are you sure there's no spark only on that cylinder? > Check the points gap too. > Try it on different dist cam lobes, see if it > changes. > If the distributor is worn and the shaft wobbles it > could be worse on that > one cylinder perhaps. > I solved my worn distributor by installing the > crane/Allison solid state > system. > Let us know! From jbaustian at cox.net Mon Sep 3 12:22:04 2007 From: jbaustian at cox.net (Jim Baustian) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 13:22:04 -0500 Subject: [Spits] Weird engine idle Message-ID: There is an answer to worn distributor bushings as well as correction of all distributor problems. I have used them for a Delco Remy distributor in our GT6 and the Lucas distributor in our MGB. Experience has been good. url is: advanceddistributors.com Jim Baustian From mark.jones at exxonmobil.com Tue Sep 4 05:58:22 2007 From: mark.jones at exxonmobil.com (mark.jones at exxonmobil.com) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 07:58:22 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Weird engine idle In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Found the problem. Two years ago I had the HS4s rebuilt, including teflon bushings on the throttle valve. While looking over the car Friday I found one of the teflon bushing has completely out place, one big air leak. Looks like I need to get the throttle bushing rebuilt again, but this time in brass, not teflon. spitfires-request at aut ox.team.net To: spitfires at autox.team.net Sent by: cc: spitfires-bounces at aut Subject: Spitfires Digest, Vol 1, Issue 48 ox.team.net 09/03/2007 02:00 PM Please respond to spitfires --- "Clark W. Nicholls" wrote: > Are you sure there's no spark only on that cylinder? > Check the points gap too. > Try it on different dist cam lobes, see if it > changes. > If the distributor is worn and the shaft wobbles it > could be worse on that > one cylinder perhaps. > I solved my worn distributor by installing the > crane/Allison solid state > system. > Let us know! From mark.jones at exxonmobil.com Tue Sep 4 06:02:59 2007 From: mark.jones at exxonmobil.com (mark.jones at exxonmobil.com) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 08:02:59 -0400 Subject: [Spits] distributor rebushed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I had my distributor rebuilt (including rebushed and rebuilt the vacuum advance) last winter, made a big difference in how the car performs. The guy I used has since retired, but I have several lbc friends who have used Jeff at Advanced Distributors with great success, www.advanceddistributors.com. Mark 80 Spitfire 1500 73 MGBGT From: Doug Braun Subject: Re: [Spits] Weird engine idle To: Spitfires at autox.team.net Message-ID: <192242.3586.qm at web614.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Has anyone ever re-bushed a Spit distributor to fix sloppy timing? Can new bushings be gotten? Doug Braun '72 Spit From frede.thomas2 at verizon.net Tue Sep 11 18:26:54 2007 From: frede.thomas2 at verizon.net (FRED E THOMAS) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 20:26:54 -0400 Subject: [Spits] The Best Car Message-ID: <001b01c7f4d3$a0284920$92107247@fred8kwiskhcfu> Not sure how to describe "worst", but the best car I have ever driven/owned is a 1968 Ford Mustang hardtop, 289 CI, auto and steering, took it in trade in 1971 for $500.00 and have owned since 1971, I have replaced the starter and battery in 36 years, it is right to this day a very pretty car and all original, the T/R 3 is nice, but, two completely different cars, I also have a 67 Mustang with a "solid Bench front seat (rare), just not as solid as the 68 and I have no idea why. "FT" From mmilkevitch at yahoo.com Sat Sep 15 16:24:06 2007 From: mmilkevitch at yahoo.com (Matthew Milkevitch) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:24:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] Car Covers Message-ID: <946042.43940.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hello Listers: I hope everyone had the chance to enjoy their cars today. The weather here in the Philadelphia PA area has been very nice today. I am currently contemplating purchasing another car cover for my Spitfire, since the car has to "live" outside. I've had several covers for this car, and all have fallen apart within 1 year. Has anyone has better success with a car cover? If so, what brand did you purchase? Thanks for your help........ Matt Milkevitch '77 Spitfire From bill at gingerich.us Sat Sep 15 18:12:14 2007 From: bill at gingerich.us (Bill Gingerich) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 19:12:14 -0500 Subject: [Spits] Clutch questions Message-ID: <000901c7f7f6$3cd50f40$057e1340@shack2> My '74 Spitfire has been sitting for a few months because of that all too common problem where the clutch drags even though the pedal is completely depressed. Today I decided to see if I could find the reason. After pulling the transmission cover, I discovered that the pivot pin had fallen out. Aha, I thought, this will be easy. I was able to put a 5/16" bolt through the hole without too much problem. I checked the clutch and still had the problem. So I checked the pedal arm hole, and found the pin was worn. I replaced that, and still have the problem. The pedal arm hole is slightly out of round, but not a lot. The clutch master and slave cylinders were rebuilt in 2002, and have been fine to date. No evidence of leaks, etc. I bled the clutch again, and made sure the slave cylinder was tight. Now I'm running out of ideas on things to check. One of the things I've noticed is that the clutch pedal stops part way to the floor. I can't remember if that is normal. I tried to find a spec for the travel in the plunger arm, but couldn't. I'm about ready to order new master and slave cylinders, but I'd rather understand the problem first. Anyone have some ideas on what to check? TIA, as always. Bill Gingerich '74 Spitfire "Lazarus" who needs resurrection again NASS #133 OKC, OK From mark at bradakis.com Sat Sep 15 19:46:46 2007 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J. Bradakis) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 19:46:46 -0600 Subject: [Spits] Clutch questions In-Reply-To: <000901c7f7f6$3cd50f40$057e1340@shack2> References: <000901c7f7f6$3cd50f40$057e1340@shack2> Message-ID: <46EC8B06.7070009@bradakis.com> Are you sure it is the clutch and not a thrust washer problem? mjb. From spitlist at cox.net Sat Sep 15 19:57:44 2007 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 18:57:44 -0700 Subject: [Spits] Car Covers In-Reply-To: <946042.43940.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <946042.43940.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000e01c7f804$fac46100$2202a8c0@newcomputer> I am assuming that you are expecting to cover the car to keep the rain and other sorts of precipitation off the car. If that is your intention, I think it is a fool's errand. Most car covers are designed to keep the sun and dust off and are porous so that moisture goes through them. Covering a car with a non-porous cover will trap moisture under the cover and encourage rust. There is no substitute for a good garage or carport to keep moisture off a car. But if you are really just wanting something to keep the sun off, I have found the ones from Moss work pretty well. I have 2 of them and have been very happy with both of them. Joe -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Milkevitch Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 3:24 PM To: Spitfires at autox.team.net Subject: [Spits] Car Covers Hello Listers: I hope everyone had the chance to enjoy their cars today. The weather here in the Philadelphia PA area has been very nice today. I am currently contemplating purchasing another car cover for my Spitfire, since the car has to "live" outside. I've had several covers for this car, and all have fallen apart within 1 year. Has anyone has better success with a car cover? If so, what brand did you purchase? Thanks for your help........ Matt Milkevitch '77 Spitfire _______________________________________________ Spitfires mailing list Spitfires at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires From bill at gingerich.us Sat Sep 15 20:16:38 2007 From: bill at gingerich.us (Bill Gingerich) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 21:16:38 -0500 Subject: [Spits] Clutch questions In-Reply-To: <46EC8B06.7070009@bradakis.com> References: <000901c7f7f6$3cd50f40$057e1340@shack2> <46EC8B06.7070009@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <002701c7f807$9d955ea0$057e1340@shack2> Mark, Wouldn't dropped thrust washers cause the oil pressure to be near zero? Mine is 80 PSI at idle cold. I will try to put an indicator on the crank pulley to be sure. I also believe I'm not getting full travel out of the clutch pedal. Bill -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark J. Bradakis Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 8:47 PM To: Spitlist Subject: Re: [Spits] Clutch questions Are you sure it is the clutch and not a thrust washer problem? mjb. From jimmuller at rcn.com Sat Sep 15 20:41:47 2007 From: jimmuller at rcn.com (Jim Muller) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:41:47 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Car Covers In-Reply-To: <946042.43940.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46EC5FAB.28297.52FFE5@localhost> On 15 Sep 2007 at 15:24, Matthew Milkevitch wrote: > Has anyone has better success with a car > cover? If so, what brand did you purchase? When I bought my GT6 some years ago I had to move the Spitfire out the garage and "store" it in the driveway. So I bought a cover from California Car Cover, their spiffy ultra-high-tech super-fabric. It was listed as waterproof but porous, and blocked UV. Even better, when I called to ask the guy on the phone said it would fold up and fit in a shoebox. It turned out to be everything they said it would be. It kept the car dry and clean. It fit both the Spitfire and GT6 even though I chose one spec'ed for the GT6. It lasted four or five years too. Eventually it succumbed to UV so I replaced it with a cover from TRF. That one, made by Covercraft or something similar, has been a disappointment. It is thick and bulky, doesn't seem to keep out either dust or water, collects water inside the folds at the bottom (which would seem to encourage rust), and doesn't fit very well. It builds up static charge so readily that I grew leary of putting it on or off the car. I've had it maybe two years, but for the last six months it has been sitting in a folded heap at the head of the driveway. If the car is going to get wet anyway I'd rather let the rain roll off and evaporate than be collected into an artificial puddle right underneath each bumper. Maybe I'll clean it and put it back on the car for the winter. But I intend to replace it soon with another high-tech one from California Car Cover, either this winter or next spring. -- Jim Muller jimmuller at rcn.com '80 Spitfire, '70 GT6+ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.19/1008 - Release Date: 9/14/2007 8:59 AM From mark at bradakis.com Sat Sep 15 21:52:57 2007 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J. Bradakis) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 21:52:57 -0600 Subject: [Spits] Clutch questions In-Reply-To: <002701c7f807$9d955ea0$057e1340@shack2> References: <000901c7f7f6$3cd50f40$057e1340@shack2> <46EC8B06.7070009@bradakis.com> <002701c7f807$9d955ea0$057e1340@shack2> Message-ID: <46ECA899.80306@bradakis.com> >Wouldn't dropped thrust washers cause the oil pressure to be near zero? > No, the oil pressure won't be affected by the lack of thrust washers. mjb. From sagreenwood at earthlink.net Sun Sep 16 23:47:29 2007 From: sagreenwood at earthlink.net (Stuart Greenwood) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:47:29 -0700 Subject: [Spits] Car Covers Message-ID: <410-22007911754729657@earthlink.net> As somebody already said you don't want a cover that can't breath otherwise the car will stay wet. In my experience the best material is one called sunbreja This has a 5 year guarantee. I have had one for 6 years and used it everyday when the car is parked all day in the sun at work or on the drive at home. For the first 4 years it didn't leak water when it was raining and now it just lets a little through .The only thing that fails is the stitching . After 4 years I sent it back under warrantee and they re-stitched it and also replaced some panels that had worn... all for $13 including postage. It's a thick cover so it doesn't roll up small. I've just bought a new cover made from Weathershield for another of my cars which is much thinner and therefore rolls up small. I'm thinking I should have stuck with Sunbeja but the sales man said I would like it.... we'll see Like everything else don't buy a cheap cover. For a good cover you are looking at $300. sagreenwood at earthlink.net San Diego 71 Spitfire Mk IV, 71 Stag Mk I, 80 TR8 Federal Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:24:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Milkevitch Subject: [Spits] Car Covers To: Spitfires at autox.team.net Message-ID: <946042.43940.qm at web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello Listers: I hope everyone had the chance to enjoy their cars today. The weather here in the Philadelphia PA area has been very nice today. I am currently contemplating purchasing another car cover for my Spitfire, since the car has to "live" outside. I've had several covers for this car, and all have fallen apart within 1 year. Has anyone has better success with a car cover? If so, what brand did you purchase? Thanks for your help........ Matt Milkevitch '77 Spitfire From dmitchel at sbcglobal.net Tue Sep 18 08:29:56 2007 From: dmitchel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mitchell) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:29:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] Slightly OT: New clothing line Message-ID: <457598.47346.qm@web83102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Check out this link: http://www.autofieldguide.com/dp/auto/newsmonger.cfm?id=1539 Doug -- dmitchel at sbcglobal.net From maya2blue at juno.com Tue Sep 18 11:40:36 2007 From: maya2blue at juno.com (Harve Thorn) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:40:36 -0500 Subject: [Spits] Spitfire hardtop tie bar mountings needed Message-ID: <20070918.124036.1632.3.maya2blue@juno.com> I am looking for the tie bar mountings used to mount a factory hardtop when the soft-top is not fitted. Part numbers are 624874(RH) and 624873(LH) (long tie bars vs. the short ones used when the soft-top is fitted) See them at http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/spitfire/images/199a.gif Many tks any help! Harve Thorn NASS #79 From doug at dougbraun.com Tue Sep 18 18:37:18 2007 From: doug at dougbraun.com (Doug Braun) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 17:37:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] Spitfire hardtop tie bar mountings needed In-Reply-To: <20070918.124036.1632.3.maya2blue@juno.com> Message-ID: <600011.43904.qm@web604.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Good luck. Those parts are ultra-rare. I have never seen any. For that application, I use the short bars along with 3-1/2" long bolts that will let the bars reach the mounting holes on the body. It does look a bit improvised, but the hardtop is much more secure and less squeaky with them installed. Doug Braun '72 Spit --- Harve Thorn wrote: > I am looking for the tie bar mountings used to mount > a factory hardtop > when the soft-top is not fitted. > > Part numbers are 624874(RH) and 624873(LH) (long > tie bars vs. the short > ones used when the soft-top is fitted) > > See them at > http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/spitfire/images/199a.gif > > Many tks any help! > > Harve Thorn > NASS #79 > _______________________________________________ > Spitfires mailing list > Spitfires at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires From JStasyszen at odmhsas.org Wed Sep 19 09:16:13 2007 From: JStasyszen at odmhsas.org (Stasyszen, Jerry) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:16:13 -0500 Subject: [Spits] Spitfire hardtop tie bar mountings needed In-Reply-To: <600011.43904.qm@web604.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20070918.124036.1632.3.maya2blue@juno.com> <600011.43904.qm@web604.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I bought some from Vicky Brit Thanks Jerry Stasyszen -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Doug Braun Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 7:37 PM To: Harve Thorn; nass at yahoogroups.com; NASS-club at yahoogroups.com; spitfires at autox.team.net; spitfire-enthusiast at yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Spits] Spitfire hardtop tie bar mountings needed Good luck. Those parts are ultra-rare. I have never seen any. For that application, I use the short bars along with 3-1/2" long bolts that will let the bars reach the mounting holes on the body. It does look a bit improvised, but the hardtop is much more secure and less squeaky with them installed. Doug Braun '72 Spit --- Harve Thorn wrote: > I am looking for the tie bar mountings used to mount a factory hardtop > when the soft-top is not fitted. > > Part numbers are 624874(RH) and 624873(LH) (long tie bars vs. the > short ones used when the soft-top is fitted) > > See them at > http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/spitfire/images/199a.gif > > Many tks any help! > > Harve Thorn > NASS #79 > _______________________________________________ > Spitfires mailing list > Spitfires at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires _______________________________________________ Spitfires mailing list Spitfires at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires From doug at dougbraun.com Wed Sep 19 10:11:10 2007 From: doug at dougbraun.com (Doug Braun) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:11:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] Spitfire hardtop tie bar mountings needed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <295339.41985.qm@web601.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> When? I looked at their latest catalog and a 5-year-old one I had lying around, and they did not list the long ones, only the short ones. Doug --- "Stasyszen, Jerry" wrote: > I bought some from Vicky Brit > > > Thanks > Jerry Stasyszen From jerry.stasyszen at sbcglobal.net Thu Sep 20 12:32:24 2007 From: jerry.stasyszen at sbcglobal.net (Jerry Stasyszen) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 12:32:24 -0600 Subject: [Spits] Spitfire hardtop tie bar mountings needed In-Reply-To: <295339.41985.qm@web601.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002401c7fbb4$97ca4890$6401a8c0@greeper> Mine are the short ones, sorry. -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Doug Braun Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 10:11 AM To: Stasyszen, Jerry; Doug Braun; Harve Thorn; nass at yahoogroups.com; NASS-club at yahoogroups.com; spitfires at autox.team.net; spitfire-enthusiast at yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Spits] Spitfire hardtop tie bar mountings needed When? I looked at their latest catalog and a 5-year-old one I had lying around, and they did not list the long ones, only the short ones. Doug --- "Stasyszen, Jerry" wrote: > I bought some from Vicky Brit > > > Thanks > Jerry Stasyszen _______________________________________________ Spitfires mailing list Spitfires at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1015 - Release Date: 9/18/2007 11:53 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1015 - Release Date: 9/18/2007 11:53 AM From victor at metfilms.com Tue Sep 18 08:45:57 2007 From: victor at metfilms.com (Victor Michael) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:45:57 -0500 Subject: [Spits] My Spit gotta go... Message-ID: My wife and I love this car and have had for quite a few years. We are sad to see it go, but like a poor dog whose owner has no time to play with it, we just feel too damn guilty seeing just sit in the garage. Have a look, pass the word around and get in touch if you're interested! http://www.vmedge.com/spitfire/ vmichael at vmedge.com Thanks! Victor '77 Spit -- From clarkfot at cwnicholls.net Mon Sep 24 07:36:37 2007 From: clarkfot at cwnicholls.net (Clark W. Nicholls) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 09:36:37 -0400 Subject: [Spits] Amphicar wanted Message-ID: <006501c7feaf$f00eeb70$1342a8c0@semperon3400> And now for something completely different. Is there anyone on these lists having an Amphicar they're willing to part with? I know at least one/two of us that has one in custody! The phone is a Connecticut exchange... Not me, I know nothing more! WANTED: Amphicar Amphibious vehicle, any year or condition except restored. (860)668-7716 Clark Clark W. Nicholls "Reality... It's not what you think." From JStasyszen at odmhsas.org Mon Sep 24 08:56:36 2007 From: JStasyszen at odmhsas.org (Stasyszen, Jerry) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 09:56:36 -0500 Subject: [Spits] 77 Spitfire In-Reply-To: <20070924032431.LFOC28177.mta11.adelphia.net@randall> References: <20070924032431.LFOC28177.mta11.adelphia.net@randall> Message-ID: I am parting out a 77 Spitfire. I removed the engine and trans but the rest remains. The body if pretty straight except that it was wrecked but all the damaged arteas have been meticulously removed. I have new body parts to for the areas that were cut out. The bonnet has some beginning rust but the floors are in great shape. This would be a nice buildable car. I just don't have the time or a mig to weld the body parts back together. If anyone is interested in parts then email me off list or call 405-672-9707 in Oklahoma City. Thanks Jerry Stasyszen 405-672-9707 Jerry.stasyszen at sbcglobal.net OKCSpitfire at sbcglobal.net jstasyszen at odmhsas.org From maya2blue at juno.com Tue Sep 25 06:13:27 2007 From: maya2blue at juno.com (Harve Thorn) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 07:13:27 -0500 Subject: [Spits] help on mounting 1500 hardtop needed Message-ID: <20070925.071327.2872.0.maya2blue@juno.com> Greetings... I am mounting my hardtop for the first time and have a few questions :) A. It appears from various illustrations that the two spacer tubes at the front mount with the flanged end up - against the hardtop.. Correct? B. What bolt is needed for the front connection (through the spacer tube) I see and read references to both a headed bolt and an all-threaded bolt. The front bolts that I have are headed. Which is supposed to be used? C. I have read several comments re the "underside of the hardtop where it rests on the read edge." Apparently the top can damage the paint on the rear deck. I have the "seals" that are noted in the various catalogs. I have read that different people have done different things to protect this area - everything from thicker "seals" to using the "c" shaped chrome door edge guard molding to trim the bottom edge. Suggestions? Many thanks!! Harve Harve Thorn NASS # 79 From ptegler at cablespeed.com Tue Sep 25 06:35:05 2007 From: ptegler at cablespeed.com (ptegler) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 08:35:05 -0400 Subject: [Spits] >>NASS help on mounting 1500 hardtop needed References: <20070925.071327.2872.0.maya2blue@juno.com> Message-ID: <007501c7ff70$80d4d3c0$1a00000a@delllaptop> see **** injected in your email below Paul Tegler ptegler at cablespeed.com www.teglerizer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harve Thorn" To: ; ; ; Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 8:13 AM Subject: >>NASS help on mounting 1500 hardtop needed > Greetings... > > I am mounting my hardtop for the first time and have a few questions :) > > A. It appears from various illustrations that the two spacer tubes at the > front mount with the flanged end up - against the hardtop.. Correct? **** correct > > B. What bolt is needed for the front connection (through the spacer tube) > I see and read references to both a headed bolt and an all-threaded > bolt. The front bolts that I have are headed. Which is supposed to be > used? a headed bolt and flat washer.... be caeful of the length so it doesn't go too far through and dentth sheet metal of the hardtop > > C. I have read several comments re the "underside of the hardtop where it > rests on the read edge." Apparently the top can damage the paint on the > rear deck. I have the "seals" that are noted in the various catalogs. I > have read that different people have done different things to protect > this area - everything from thicker "seals" to using the "c" shaped > chrome door edge guard molding to trim the bottom edge. Suggestions? *****Just dont crank it down that tight. The stock heavy pads if installed correctly will stop it from hitting the paint work. I too use the door chrome edge gaurd just to be safe. > > Many thanks!! > > Harve > > Harve Thorn > NASS # 79 > > > >> To unsubscribe send an empty email to: nass-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > >> NASS Home Site nasshq resources http://www.nasshq.org > >> Full Membership details: http://www.nasshq.org/docs/memberapp.html > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nass/ > > <*> Your email settings: > Individual Email | Traditional > > <*> To change settings online go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nass/join > (Yahoo! ID required) > > <*> To change settings via email: > mailto:nass-digest at yahoogroups.com > mailto:nass-fullfeatured at yahoogroups.com > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > nass-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From doug at dougbraun.com Tue Sep 25 06:34:03 2007 From: doug at dougbraun.com (Doug Braun) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 05:34:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] help on mounting 1500 hardtop needed In-Reply-To: <20070925.071327.2872.0.maya2blue@juno.com> Message-ID: <774825.12911.qm@web612.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Harve Thorn wrote: > Greetings... > > I am mounting my hardtop for the first time and have > a few questions :) > > A. It appears from various illustrations that the > two spacer tubes at the > front mount with the flanged end up - against the > hardtop.. Correct? Yes. Don't leave the spacers out- they keep the gasket from getting totally crushed. > > B. What bolt is needed for the front connection > (through the spacer tube) > I see and read references to both a headed bolt and > an all-threaded > bolt. The front bolts that I have are headed. Which > is supposed to be > used? I have original bolts. They are 2-inch bolts, all-threaded, with domed heads and pointed on the other end (to make them easier to install). They had a black oxide finish, and the heads were also painted black. The exact amount of threads does not matter, as long as the part that screws into the hardtop has threads. > > C. I have read several comments re the "underside of > the hardtop where it > rests on the read edge." Apparently the top can > damage the paint on the > rear deck. I have the "seals" that are noted in the > various catalogs. I > have read that different people have done different > things to protect > this area - everything from thicker "seals" to using > the "c" shaped > chrome door edge guard molding to trim the bottom > edge. Suggestions? There are supposed to be 4 rubber blocks: two round the rear bolts, and two sort of trapezoid-shaped ones just in front if the quarter windows. These can get compressed with age- assuming they are all present, you may have to add a later of sheet rubber to them. In any case, it is very tricky to install the top without denting the rear deck of the car. I suggest putting a towel over the rear deck, setting the hardtop in place over the towel, attaching the front bolts, and then lifting the rear of the hardtop up just enough to pull the towel out. It helps a lot to have an attentive, motivated helper or two, not one that is annoyed because you dragged them away from their favorite video game... Doug From jimmuller at rcn.com Tue Sep 25 18:11:56 2007 From: jimmuller at rcn.com (Jim Muller) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:11:56 -0400 Subject: [Spits] a new clunking noise Message-ID: <46F96B8C.32114.1686A2F@localhost> Just when I thought it was safe to put the wrenches away... My Spitfire has a new sound. When I turn a corner at anything more than walking speed I hear a clunk clunk clunk, maybe 3 to 5 clunks right behind me which sound like something bouncing across a metallic floor or swinging against a metallic wall. Except there isn't anything to swing or bounce, nothing loose underneath nor under the spare tire. I fully expect one or more of you to say it is something come loose in the gas tank. So what would it likely be? A filter perhaps? Is it serious? I don't relish the idea of pulling the tank, or even just pulling a cover off. Tanks in advance, Jim Muller jimmuller at rcn.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1030 - Release Date: 9/25/2007 8:02 AM From doug at dougbraun.com Tue Sep 25 20:08:24 2007 From: doug at dougbraun.com (Doug Braun) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 19:08:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spits] a new clunking noise In-Reply-To: <46F96B8C.32114.1686A2F@localhost> Message-ID: <625086.58220.qm@web612.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Well, start by removing ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING from the trunk and seeing if the noise changes. Then drive around with a small kid in the trunk, and ask them if they can hear it. :-) But seriously, after you clean out the trunk, you will have done half the work of removing the gas tank cover panel. Doug --- Jim Muller wrote: > Just when I thought it was safe to put the wrenches > away... > > My Spitfire has a new sound. When I turn a corner > at anything more > than walking speed I hear a clunk clunk clunk, maybe > 3 to 5 clunks > right behind me which sound like something bouncing > across a metallic > floor or swinging against a metallic wall. Except > there isn't > anything to swing or bounce, nothing loose > underneath nor under the > spare tire. From nmoseley at dccnet.com Tue Sep 25 21:36:53 2007 From: nmoseley at dccnet.com (Nick Moseley) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:36:53 -0700 Subject: [Spits] a new clunking noise In-Reply-To: <46F96B8C.32114.1686A2F@localhost> Message-ID: <1190777694_139384@mx.dccnet.com> Check that all the lug nuts on your rear wheels are tight. Please don't ask why I'm suggesting that (head downcast). Nick Moseley Near Vancouver B.C. 76-81 Spits -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces+nmoseley=dccnet.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces+nmoseley=dccnet.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Muller Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 5:12 PM To: spitfires at autox.team.net; triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: [Spits] a new clunking noise Just when I thought it was safe to put the wrenches away... My Spitfire has a new sound. When I turn a corner at anything more than walking speed I hear a clunk clunk clunk, maybe 3 to 5 clunks right behind me which sound like something bouncing across a metallic floor or swinging against a metallic wall. Except there isn't anything to swing or bounce, nothing loose underneath nor under the spare tire. I fully expect one or more of you to say it is something come loose in the gas tank. So what would it likely be? A filter perhaps? Is it serious? I don't relish the idea of pulling the tank, or even just pulling a cover off. Tanks in advance, Jim Muller jimmuller at rcn.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1030 - Release Date: 9/25/2007 8:02 AM _______________________________________________ nmoseley at dccnet.com Spitfires at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires From jimmuller at rcn.com Tue Sep 25 21:53:39 2007 From: jimmuller at rcn.com (Jim Muller) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:53:39 -0400 Subject: [Spits] a new clunking noise In-Reply-To: <1190777694_139384@mx.dccnet.com> References: <46F96B8C.32114.1686A2F@localhost> Message-ID: <46F99F83.12007.2336652@localhost> On 25 Sep 2007 at 20:36, Nick Moseley wrote: > Check that all the lug nuts on your rear wheels are tight. Good thought. I shook the wheels right away but didn't put a wrench on the lug nuts. > Please don't ask > why I'm suggesting that (head downcast). I won't ask. -- Jim Muller jimmuller at rcn.com '80 Spitfire, '70 GT6+ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1030 - Release Date: 9/25/2007 8:02 AM From jimmuller at rcn.com Tue Sep 25 21:53:40 2007 From: jimmuller at rcn.com (Jim Muller) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:53:40 -0400 Subject: [Spits] [TR] a new clunking noise In-Reply-To: <46F9CEDB.4030004@shaw.ca> References: <46F96B8C.32114.1686A2F@localhost> Message-ID: <46F99F84.3294.2336955@localhost> On 25 Sep 2007 at 20:15, Donald Tennant wrote: > Have you checked your drive shaft U joints? And Michael Porter suggested a u-joint. In fact, I have a bad u- joint on the right side halfshaft. It's been bad for a long time and will be replaced soon. The driveshaft was fine when I put the diff in a year ago. In any case, this isn't a u-joint sound. It's too slow and isn't that distinct clicking sound. It's as if something were bouncing on a sheet metal suface. Like a short-handle screwdriver free to roll across the trunk. Except the trunk doesn't have anything like that. I checked! But thanks anyway. -- Jim Muller jimmuller at rcn.com '80 Spitfire, '70 GT6+ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1030 - Release Date: 9/25/2007 8:02 AM From jimmuller at rcn.com Tue Sep 25 21:53:39 2007 From: jimmuller at rcn.com (Jim Muller) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:53:39 -0400 Subject: [Spits] [TR] a new clunking noise In-Reply-To: <641A525B0A2A2540B1DD0A3DE660241C02D6DB3B@exchange.terra-incognita.net> Message-ID: <46F99F83.28939.23367CE@localhost> On 25 Sep 2007 at 22:27, Mark Hooper wrote: > We have a nephew with us for the year enrolled in some > ponsy school with radical ideas that the young need an education > involving more than the history of Sodom and standing > duty as a toast rack for the older students. ... > Actually, the kid's not half bad what with no instructions and > having to play with 2 pairs of socks and a washcloth > stuffed deep in maw of the dreadful machine. Mark, you've been reading too much P.G. Wodehouse. Go back to Patrick O'Brien. -- Jim Muller jimmuller at rcn.com '80 Spitfire, '70 GT6+ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1030 - Release Date: 9/25/2007 8:02 AM From clarkfot at cwnicholls.net Wed Sep 26 12:24:34 2007 From: clarkfot at cwnicholls.net (Clark W. Nicholls) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 14:24:34 -0400 Subject: [Spits] a new clunking noise In-Reply-To: <46F96B8C.32114.1686A2F@localhost> References: <46F96B8C.32114.1686A2F@localhost> Message-ID: <002001c8006a$7e870390$1342a8c0@semperon3400> Put the top up and close the windows, you may be able to hear the noise better. I keep the top down to avoid this! Here's a new one for me I experienced last fall... 74 Spitfire. Last year on my last run of the summer (as it turned out) I noticed a rotational clicking from the rear, similar to a u-joint. The axle U-Joints were both recent, considering the miles I drive, but I figured, oh-well... I slid underneath and by feel I determined the click was on the driver side, so I did that u-joint. It looked fine on removal, but it's out so a new one goes in. Back on the road, still there, so I did the passenger side. Same deal, old looked fine. Noise still there... Hmmm... Driveshaft feels fine, but perhaps? I really don't want to do those as I've had experience with ruining the balance before. I disconnected everything from the diff and twisted and turned the stub axles and input, I could still feel a clicking. After much hesitation I removed the diff. Turned out that the shims behind the spider gears were worn out and there was slop there which causes this. Never heard of such a thing. Ted Schumacher wasn't too surprised. Apparently it does this when one wheel is turning faster than the other and the spider gears are doing their thing. Straight line they should be still, but that's really straight! I put in a spare diff and spring. The old spring had worn out the rub buttons between the leaves and into the leaf below and was at least an inch shorter than the spare. All is well, now. It took me over a month to think this all out and get the job done, It's a big decision to swap the diff (and it's heavy too!). The whine from the diff I lived with for 25 years is gone as a bonus! Clark From jerry.stasyszen at sbcglobal.net Wed Sep 26 18:57:22 2007 From: jerry.stasyszen at sbcglobal.net (Jerry Stasyszen) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:57:22 -0600 Subject: [Spits] 77 Spitfire In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001201c800a1$5d4fe1b0$6401a8c0@greeper> Here is a link if anyone want to see the car and the parts http://okcspitfire.atspace.com/77spit.htm I am parting out a 77 Spitfire. I removed the engine and trans but the rest remains. The body if pretty straight except that it was wrecked but all the damaged arteas have been meticulously removed. I have new body parts to for the areas that were cut out. The bonnet has some beginning rust but the floors are in great shape. This would be a nice buildable car. I just don't have the time or a mig to weld the body parts back together. If anyone is interested in parts then email me off list or call 405-672-9707 in Oklahoma City. I'll allow time here but if no one wants any of it I'll put it up on ebay in a couple of weeks. The replacement parts like the trans tunnel and sheet metal are new, roll bar has never been installed. Thanks Jerry Stasyszen 405-672-9707 Jerry.stasyszen at sbcglobal.net OKCSpitfire at sbcglobal.net jstasyszen at odmhsas.org _______________________________________________ Spitfires mailing list Spitfires at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1015 - Release Date: 9/18/2007 11:53 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1030 - Release Date: 9/25/2007 8:02 AM From higginstj at aol.com Thu Sep 27 13:18:28 2007 From: higginstj at aol.com (higginstj at aol.com) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:18:28 -0400 Subject: [Spits] (no subject) Message-ID: <8C9CF52519F27FA-B34-6701@webmail-de15.sysops.aol.com> I understand that Keihin carbs can be put on a spitfire.? Has anyone done this?? What size carb? Any extra "piping" needed? Thanks, Teddy spit73 ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com From spitlist at cox.net Thu Sep 27 13:58:13 2007 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:58:13 -0700 Subject: [Spits] (no subject) References: <8C9CF52519F27FA-B34-6701@webmail-de15.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008401c80140$bce33240$2d02a8c0@Belkin> PRI is doing that setup. I don't have their web site but I am sure you can google them. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 12:18 PM Subject: [Spits] (no subject) > I understand that Keihin carbs can be put on a spitfire.? Has anyone done this?? What size carb? Any extra "piping" needed? Thanks, Teddy spit73 > ________________________________________________________________________ > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com > _______________________________________________ > spitlist at cox.net > > Spitfires at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spitfires From maya2blue at juno.com Thu Sep 27 16:59:32 2007 From: maya2blue at juno.com (Harve Thorn) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:59:32 -0500 Subject: [Spits] need nicecigarette ligher "handle" for my spit Message-ID: <20070927.175933.1824.0.maya2blue@juno.com> Greetings... I need a nicely painted "handle" for the cigarette lighter in my '78 Spitfire. The one that I have now has a barely visible painted cig on it. I would like to have one that looks better. Or, does anyone know what to repaint it with? Tks all Harve From andrew.lindeman at gmail.com Fri Sep 28 00:42:57 2007 From: andrew.lindeman at gmail.com (Andrew Lindeman) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 00:42:57 -0600 Subject: [Spits] It looks like it's that time again Message-ID: <2cc65d5a0709272342o4e5d5be5rc012f9ccb2ca863@mail.gmail.com> http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070927/ANE01/70927008/1116 You can use this to log in - bobjones at bugmenot.com spamsucks Andy From r.gosling at penspen.com Fri Sep 28 03:05:52 2007 From: r.gosling at penspen.com (Gosling, Richard) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:05:52 +0100 Subject: [Spits] (no subject) References: <8C9CF52519F27FA-B34-6701@webmail-de15.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <76458B73D88AF649B30C48899A95ACB09EF71A@sv-lon-exch1.Penspen.com> Jeff McNeal has done this - find out all about it at http://www.totallytriumph.net/spitfire/projects2.shtml Richard ________________________________________________________________________ This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be privileged. 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The following UK companies within the Penspen Group and any electronic communication sent on behalf of any of them, are subject to the provisions of the UK Companies Act 1985; PENSPEN HOLDINGS LIMITED (Company Number : 980600) Registered Office: 3 Water Lane, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1TJ Registered in England and Wales (VAT No; 239 7770 19) PENSPEN LIMITED (Company Number: 584446) Registered Office: 3 Water Lane, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1TJ Registered in England and Wales (VAT No; 239 7770 19) (Unipen, Penspen Integrity and Andrew Palmer & Associates are operating divisions of Penspen Limited and Spencer & Partners and Pencol are trade names of Penspen Limited) MANCHESTER JETLINE LIMITED (Company Number: 2392093) Registered Office: 3 Water Lane, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1TJ Registered in England and Wales (VAT No; 537 8635 08) From bill at gingerich.us Sun Sep 30 20:44:09 2007 From: bill at gingerich.us (Bill Gingerich) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 21:44:09 -0500 Subject: [Spits] '66 GT6 Mk I for sale Message-ID: <000001c803d4$f21d0f80$057e1340@shack2> Greetings all, It pains me to do this, but the 66 GT6 project car I have must go. When I bought it 2 = years ago I thought I would be able to restore it. Perhaps my original ambition was wishful thinking, but it is now clear it will be many years before Im in the position to do this car justice. So here we go. It is a fairly early car, with the commission number of 1KC2515L. It is one of the CKD kit cars that was assembled in Belgium. A member of these lists, whos opinions and knowledge I trust, believes that it was originally sold in West Germany. I dont know. I have a bunch of pictures of the car and the pieces that I got with it that Im going to try to put on my website in the next few days. This is a project car. The body will need rockers and floors, plus patch panels on the lower rear wings. It comes with some of the needed body panels. It has wire wheels with new tires. The bonnet has a couple of dents, but is solid overall. The seats are there, but need to be redone. The rest of the interior trim panels are gone. The dash is complete, but the rim of the steering wheel has lost its covering. There is a lot more that is slipping my mind right now. Feel free to ask any questions. Now the nitty-gritty: The Mk Is are getting too rare to just strip this car for parts. I will not sell this car to anyone who wants to part it out! If that is your plan, dont even bother to ask. If all I get are parts hounds, I will keep the car. What I want is to find someone who has the desire and wherewithal to restore this car. I paid $1000 in 2005 for the car, and that is what Im asking now. It has been stored inside since I bought it, and is currently located near Oklahoma City, OK. There is a clean Minnesota title. Please contact me off list if you are interested. Thanks for your consideration. BillG NASS #133 Newalla, OK