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<DIV><FONT face="Segoe UI">after considering all the options and work involved and cost... I'm just gonna scrap what I got and I've order a 10 pacl</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Segoe UI">of the stick light linking ones and install those... 6 will do what I need so I'll have 4 spares and will probably get more light</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Segoe UI">than the flor tubes (especially since 4 bulbs are burned out now) :-) </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Segoe UI">thanks for all the input</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Segoe UI">john</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe UI'; COLOR: #000000"><B>To:</B> john niolon <<A href="mailto:jniolon@att.net">jniolon@att.net</A>></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-SIZE: large">I have changed all the 4' fluorescents in our garage to the eLcheapo (tm) LED linkable sticks. After 5+ years I've had one fail out of 12. I bought a few extras when they went on sale. Also (if it matters) no problems with them working in cold weather. (OK, cold in North Carolina may not be cold elsewhere but the fluorescents I had would often not work when it was cold.) </DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_attr dir=ltr>On Mon, Oct 19, 2026 at 1:17 PM john niolon <<A href="mailto:jniolon@att.net">jniolon@att.net</A>> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Segoe UI">Hi all</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Segoe UI">My 30 year old 8' t-12 (single pin) garage fixtures are slowly dying...(4 total double tube)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Segoe UI">the old t-12s are hard to find and expensive (16-20 bucks a tube)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Segoe UI">Want to change to led... lots of options - 8' led tubes are expensive too ... </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Segoe UI">I was gifted a box of 20 4' bi-pin bulbs that work with a ballast...(heat sink)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Segoe UI">option 1 </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Segoe UI">if I use these I'd have to change all the tombstones to bi-pin and figure out the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Segoe UI">shunted vs non shunted type... AND find the 8' to 4' fixture conversion kits (adding the middle tombstones</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Segoe UI">option 2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Segoe UI">8' type a led single pin tubes (about the same price as 8' fluorescent) and use a ballast</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Segoe UI">not great reviews when shipped...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Segoe UI">option 3</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Segoe UI">replace all the crap with the internet specials linkable stick lights and hope they work</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Segoe UI">comments on options ????</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Segoe UI">questions... when using the ballast type plug and plays... aren't I using more electricity using the ballast </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Segoe UI">and heating it up... is there any savings here ???</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Segoe UI">please educate the old dummy on best (least expensive) options</FONT></DIV>
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