<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I replaced my 8' single pin fluorescents with these non-ballast single pin LEDs about four years ago, no problems, terrific light, it was a very good decision for me:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074MC1FW3?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_12&th=1">JESLED T8/T10/T12 8FT LED Tube Light Bulbs, 50W 6000LM, 5000K Daylight White, 8 Foot Single Pin FA8 LED Fluorescent Replacement for Shops Garage Light Fixtures, ETL Listed, Remove Ballast (4-Pack) - Amazon.com</a></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Oct 19, 2026 at 10:59 AM Jim Franklin <<a href="mailto:jamesf@groupwbench.org">jamesf@groupwbench.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Just put in some 4' integrated LEDs and get on with life. All other options for non-commercial use are a kludge and a time sink. I used these in the basement and they're working fine:<div><br></div><div><div style="display:block"> <a href="https://www.lowes.com/pd/Utilitech-4-ft-Light-LED-Strip-Shop-Light/5000858987" target="_blank">https://www.lowes.com/pd/Utilitech-4-ft-Light-LED-Strip-Shop-Light/5000858987</a></div></div><div style="display:block"><br></div><div style="display:block">jim</div><div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Oct 19, 2026, at 1:09 PM, john niolon <<a href="mailto:jniolon@att.net" target="_blank">jniolon@att.net</a>> wrote:</div><br><div>
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<div><font face="Segoe UI">My 30 year old 8' t-12 (single pin) garage fixtures are slowly dying...(4 total double tube)</font></div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">the old t-12s are hard to find and expensive (16-20 bucks a tube)</font></div>
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<div><font face="Segoe UI">Want to change to led... lots of options - 8' led tubes are expensive too ... </font></div>
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<div><font face="Segoe UI">I was gifted a box of 20 4' bi-pin bulbs that work with a ballast...(heat sink)</font></div>
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<div><font face="Segoe UI">option 1 </font></div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">if I use these I'd have to change all the tombstones to bi-pin and figure out the</font></div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">shunted vs non shunted type... AND find the 8' to 4' fixture conversion kits (adding the middle tombstones</font></div>
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<div><font face="Segoe UI">option 2</font></div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">8' type a led single pin tubes (about the same price as 8' fluorescent) and use a ballast</font></div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">not great reviews when shipped...</font></div>
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<div><font face="Segoe UI">option 3</font></div>
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<div><font face="Segoe UI">replace all the crap with the internet specials linkable stick lights and hope they work</font></div>
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<div><font face="Segoe UI">comments on options ????</font></div>
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<div><font face="Segoe UI">questions... when using the ballast type plug and plays... aren't I using more electricity using the ballast </font></div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">and heating it up... is there any savings here ???</font></div>
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<div><font face="Segoe UI">please educate the old dummy on best (least expensive) options</font></div>
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