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System partition. Thank you!! That is the answer I was looking for. </div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 11, 2026 3:04 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com>; Shop Talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: OT IT question</font>
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The system partition is not user accessible, it is managed by the OS. That is why you cannot execute utilities option it under normal operating conditions, nor diets it require any.</div>
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<div id="x_divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 11, 2026 12:34:59 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Douglas Shook <dirtbeard@gmail.com>; Shop Talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: OT IT question</font>
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I used "defrag" because I am somewhat old school. </div>
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When I ran the utility it was actually "trim", not defrag. Defrag is not an option on the screen I see. </div>
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<div id="x_x_divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Douglas Shook <dirtbeard@gmail.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 11, 2026 11:34 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com>; Shop Talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: OT IT question</font>
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You do not need to defrag solid state drives as there are no moving parts. The consensus is that repeated defragging actually can harm them over time.</div>
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There is a TRIM function in Windows II that optimizes solid state drives, but you do not need to run defrag, particularly aftermarket utility defrags on solid state drives.</div>
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<div id="x_x_x_divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 11, 2026 6:19 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Shop Talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Shop-talk] OT IT question</font>
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Shop content first: this old laptop will be my shop computer once I set up my new laptop that is sitting in the dining room right now. </div>
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I have a 5+ year old laptop that was (forced) to be "upgraded" to Win11 last fall when support for 10 was discontinued. </div>
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It's been running slower than normal so I've been doing some maintenance clean up stuff. </div>
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While doing a defrag I clicked on advanced view and saw this: </div>
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The bottom "drive" said had a message that is had been over 60 days since optimization (or some such wording).</div>
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My question is: what is this bottom volume? I cannot seem to find it in windows (a google search turned up the expected nothing). My IT education stopped at XP and 2000 so am way out of touch. </div>
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Thanks</div>
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