<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Jim,</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">I actually just
purchased the newer version of this tool (the one with WIFI.)</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">I should be getting
it on moday. Then I have to get together with my buddy again (he lives
over an hour away.) and test it.</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
I'll let the group know what I find out.</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
Thanks again</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Moose</span>
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<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">From:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">Jim
Juhas <james.f.juhas@snet.net></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">To:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">shop-talk@autox.team.net</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Date:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">01/30/2026
13:24</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Subject:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">Re:
[Shop-talk] TSP Sensors</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Sent
by: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"Shop-talk"
<shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net></span>
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<hr noshade>
<br>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt">I use an Autel TS508. The current version
is WiFi capable for updates. Mine is an earlier model that requires a USB
connection for updates. I bought it just over a year ago via Ebay. Autel
packages replacement sensors with a tool as part of a package. I bought
mine from a large tire dealer that I believe had a number of these tools
to sell at a discount because they purchased a lot of the kits. I saw that
there are some priced on Ebay now for about $25.<br>
<br>
It seems to be universal. I needed it to properly program the sensors in
the winter wheels for our Mazda 3. Even though I am not the original purchaser
of the programmer, I have been able to easily get all the updates for the
newest cars. My experience with it so far is on Mazda, Ford and GM cars.<br>
<br>
One of my favorite features is that it can trigger the sensor and give
a reading of the tire pressure and temperature of any wheel. I like this
so much that I am considering installing TPMS sensors in the race car wheels
for quick and accurate pressure checks at the track. <br>
<br>
It also connects to the OBDII system to diagnose other stuff, reset warning
lights, and such. <br>
<br>
I also have a tire machine and a balancer primarily for my race car use,
and of course for all my other cars, and I have become the family go-to
person for tire work.<br>
<br>
Jim </span>
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<br><span style=" font-size:12pt">On 1/30/2026 11:04 AM, </span><a href=mailto:eric@megageek.com><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:blue"><u>eric@megageek.com</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:12pt">
wrote:</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Most of the time,
I'm doing it for a friend. Since I have the tire mount and balancer,
it's just the cost of the TPS (about $50 or less.)</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
I just want to be able to finish the job however. 8>0</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
<br>
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</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
From: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">Ronnie
Day </span><a href=mailto:ronnie.day@gmail.com><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:sans-serif"><u><ronnie.day@gmail.com></u></span></a><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
To: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">Old
Dirtbeard </span><a href=mailto:dirtbeard@live.com><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:sans-serif"><u><dirtbeard@live.com></u></span></a><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
Cc: </span><a href=mailto:eric@megageek.com><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:sans-serif"><u>"eric@megageek.com"</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">
</span><a href=mailto:eric@megageek.com><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:sans-serif"><u><eric@megageek.com></u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">,
</span><a href="mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net"><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:sans-serif"><u>"Shop-talk@autox.team.net"</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">
</span><a href="mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net"><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:sans-serif"><u><Shop-talk@autox.team.net></u></span></a><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
Date: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">01/30/2026
10:53</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
Subject: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">Re:
[Shop-talk] TSP Sensors</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> <br>
</span>
<hr noshade><span style=" font-size:12pt"><br>
<br>
<br>
IMO, I ignore the damned things, at least as far as replacing them,
unless one is leaking. I've been quoted around $120/each to replace them.
That said, I'll offer good odds that pretty much everybody in this group
keeps an eye on tire pressure. As a rule of thumb tire pressure varies
around 2 PSI with a 10 degree change in ambient temperature.
<br>
<br>
I have my tires balanced and rotated every 5K and that's worked out well.
Getting ready to replace the tires on our 2015 Odyssey, which seems like
it eats tires. Can't remember what I paid for the last set (Yokohama YK-CTX)
at that time, nor do I remember the mileage on the van when I bought
them, but I can find out. Discount has them for $202, plus the usual add-ons.
Discount also has the Michelin Defender 2 with a considerably longer
service life, for $211 through February, so I plan to buy those this time
around. <br>
<br>
On Fri, Jan 30, 2026 at 8:36 AM Old Dirtbeard <</span><a href=mailto:dirtbeard@live.com><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:blue"><u>dirtbeard@live.com</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:12pt">>
wrote: </span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
Same problems here, Moose. I have reduced/stopped tire rotations as a result.
Not a good response, I know...</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> <br>
</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
best,</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span>
<p style="margin-top:10px;margin-Bottom:10px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">doug</span></p>
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<hr><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><b><br>
From:</b> Shop-talk <</span><a href="mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net" target=_blank><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>
on behalf of </span><a href=mailto:eric@megageek.com target=_blank><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>eric@megageek.com</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
<</span><a href=mailto:eric@megageek.com target=_blank><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>eric@megageek.com</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>
Sent:</b> Friday, January 30, 2026 5:51 AM<b><br>
To:</b> </span><a href="mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net" target=_blank><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Shop-talk@autox.team.net</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
<</span><a href="mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net" target=_blank><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Shop-talk@autox.team.net</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>
Subject:</b> [Shop-talk] TSP Sensors</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
OK, it seems to be happening more and more these days. I replace
a tire pressure sensor (TPS) with a compatible one for the car. However,
my TPS programmers don't seem to work on these after market sensors (they
still can program all the OEM sensors.)</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
<br>
I spent a bunch of time on support lines with the Schader sensors and they
say that use an open standard, but every TPS programmer I asked them about
'isn't supported." (Note, I have 3 different ones.) To
make it worse, they can't tell me which ones WILL work, I just have to
ask them and they can answer yes or no.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
<br>
Now, the programmers I have are cheap amazon ones, so it could be they
aren't up to date.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
<br>
So, what is a GOOD comprehensive TPS programmer I can buy that should do
most sensors?</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
<br>
Thanks in advance.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
<br>
Moose</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> <br>
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