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    I use an Autel TS508. The current version is WiFi capable for
    updates. Mine is an earlier model that requires a USB connection for
    updates. I bought it just over a year ago via Ebay. Autel packages
    replacement sensors with a tool as part of a package. I bought mine
    from a large tire dealer that I believe had a number of these tools
    to sell at a discount because they purchased a lot of the kits. I
    saw that there are some priced on Ebay now for about $25.<br>
    <br>
    It seems to be universal. I needed it to properly program the
    sensors in the winter wheels for our Mazda 3. Even though I am not
    the original purchaser of the programmer, I have been able to easily
    get all the updates for the newest cars. My experience with it so
    far is on Mazda, Ford and GM cars.<br>
    <br>
    One of my favorite features is that it can trigger the sensor and
    give a reading of the tire pressure and temperature of any wheel. I
    like this so much that I am considering installing TPMS sensors in
    the race car wheels for quick and accurate pressure checks at the
    track. <br>
    <br>
    It also connects to the OBDII system to diagnose other stuff, reset
    warning lights, and such. <br>
    <br>
    I also have a tire machine and a balancer primarily for my race car
    use, and of course for all my other cars, and I have become the
    family go-to person for tire work.<br>
    <br>
    Jim 
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/30/2026 11:04 AM,
      <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:eric@megageek.com">eric@megageek.com</a> wrote:<br>
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      <span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Most of the
        time,
        I'm doing it for a friend.  Since I have the tire mount and
        balancer,
        it's just the cost of the TPS (about $50 or less.)</span>
      <br>
      <br>
      <span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">I just want
        to
        be able to finish the job however. 8>0</span>
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      <span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">From:
               </span><span
        style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">Ronnie
        Day <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ronnie.day@gmail.com"><ronnie.day@gmail.com></a></span>
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      <span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">To:
               </span><span
        style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">Old
        Dirtbeard <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dirtbeard@live.com"><dirtbeard@live.com></a></span>
      <br>
      <span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Cc:
               </span><span
        style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif"><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:eric@megageek.com">"eric@megageek.com"</a>
        <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:eric@megageek.com"><eric@megageek.com></a>, <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net">"Shop-talk@autox.team.net"</a>
        <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net"><Shop-talk@autox.team.net></a></span>
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      <span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Date:
               </span><span
        style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">01/30/2026
        10:53</span>
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      <span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Subject:
               </span><span
        style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">Re:
        [Shop-talk] TSP Sensors</span>
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      <span style=" font-size:12pt">IMO, I ignore the damned things, at
        least
        as far as replacing them, unless one is leaking. I've been
        quoted
        around $120/each to replace them. That said, I'll offer good
        odds that
        pretty much everybody in this group keeps an eye on tire
        pressure. As a
        rule of thumb tire pressure varies around 2 PSI with a 10 degree
        change
        in ambient temperature.</span>
      <br>
      <br>
      <span style=" font-size:12pt">I have my tires balanced and rotated
        every 5K and that's worked out well. Getting ready to replace
        the tires
        on our 2015 Odyssey, which seems like it eats tires. Can't
        remember what
        I paid for the last set (Yokohama YK-CTX) at that time, nor do I
        remember
        the mileage on the van when I bought them, but I can find out.
        Discount
        has them for $202, plus the usual add-ons. Discount also has the
        Michelin
        Defender 2 with a considerably longer service life, for $211
        through
        February, so I plan to buy those this time around.</span>
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      <br>
      <span style=" font-size:12pt">On Fri, Jan 30, 2026 at 8:36 AM Old
        Dirtbeard <</span><a href="mailto:dirtbeard@live.com"
        moz-do-not-send="true"><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:blue"><u>dirtbeard@live.com</u></span></a><span
        style=" font-size:12pt">>
        wrote:</span>
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      <span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Same problems
        here,
        Moose. I have reduced/stopped tire rotations as a result. Not a
        good response,
        I know...</span>
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      <span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">best,</span>
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          style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">doug</span></p>
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      <span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>From:</b>
        Shop-talk
        <</span><a href="mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net"
        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
          style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net</u></span></a><span
        style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>
        on behalf of </span><a href="mailto:eric@megageek.com"
        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
          style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>eric@megageek.com</u></span></a><span
        style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
        <</span><a href="mailto:eric@megageek.com" target="_blank"
        moz-do-not-send="true"><span
          style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>eric@megageek.com</u></span></a><span
        style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>
          Sent:</b> Friday, January 30, 2026 5:51 AM<b><br>
          To:</b> </span><a href="mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net"
        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
          style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Shop-talk@autox.team.net</u></span></a><span
        style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
        <</span><a href="mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net"
        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
          style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Shop-talk@autox.team.net</u></span></a><span
        style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>
          Subject:</b> [Shop-talk] TSP Sensors</span><span
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      <span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">OK, it seems
        to
        be happening more and more these days.  I replace a tire
        pressure
        sensor (TPS) with a compatible one for the car. However, my TPS
        programmers
        don't seem to work on these after market sensors (they still can
        program
        all the OEM sensors.)</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> <br>
      </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
        I spent a bunch of time on support lines with the Schader
        sensors and they
        say that use an open standard, but every TPS programmer I asked
        them about
        'isn't supported."  (Note, I have 3 different ones.)  To
        make it worse, they can't tell me which ones WILL work, I just
        have to
        ask them and they can answer yes or no.</span><span
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        <br>
      </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
        Now, the programmers I have are cheap amazon ones, so it could
        be they
        aren't up to date.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> <br>
      </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
        So, what is a GOOD comprehensive TPS programmer I can buy that
        should do
        most sensors?</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> <br>
      </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
        Thanks in advance.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> <br>
      </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
        Moose</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span>
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