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Welllllllllllllllllll, yea, maybe. But, I just got my water bill for last month. Over $140. For two people. New toilets, low flow shower head, no leaks that I can find. Any my wife pretty much only showers at the gym. Soooo, I try not to waste any water. (The
leak I just fixed was a small drip and only when the knob was turned on.)</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 7, 2026 3:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com><br>
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<div>It might have been fun to turn the water back on, and see if the pressure would blow it out :-)</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 7, 2026 at 3:39 PM Tim . <<a href="mailto:tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com">tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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Thanks. I figured that out but it took a pretty hefty pull the get it out and I didn't want to destroy it incase I could not find a replacement. </div>
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<b>From:</b> Doug Braun <<a href="mailto:doug@dougbraun.com" target="_blank">doug@dougbraun.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 7, 2026 10:30 AM<br>
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<div style="direction:ltr">You should be able to simply pull out the shaft and the grey plastic part. Then you can</div>
<div style="direction:ltr">more easily compare it to what is available.</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">On Wed, Jan 7, 2026 at 10:49 AM Tim . <<a id="x_m_8322164621237063468OWAa9df29ef-014f-0420-c08f-a23a02d5edc3" href="mailto:tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com" target="_blank">tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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I pulled off what turned out to be just a retaining "nut". It exposed what you see in the two pictures. </div>
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I assume I can pull the gray plastic bit off if necessary. </div>
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Is that notch in the bottom of the brass collar meant to be used with a tool to remove the cartridge?</div>
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If so, I guess I get to buy a new tool. </div>
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Thanks</div>
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<b>From:</b> Shop-talk <<a id="x_m_8322164621237063468OWA8fc9da63-e937-aa91-219c-77600fa591d6" href="mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank">shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> on behalf of Tim . <<a id="x_m_8322164621237063468OWAa8c9b567-161f-1d31-3300-b746830aef52" href="mailto:tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com" target="_blank">tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 6, 2025 12:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Shop Talk <<a id="x_m_8322164621237063468OWA2c7b9beb-6faf-c289-65b4-ff429fd89ca8" href="mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net" target="_blank">shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] odd cartridge??</div>
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A picture might help.....ffs tim</div>
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<b>From:</b> Tim . <<a id="x_m_8322164621237063468OWA4c28f585-6521-08d2-047a-f1179911201c" href="mailto:tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com" target="_blank">tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 6, 2025 12:02 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> odd cartridge??</div>
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I need to replace at least the cold cartridge in our shower--probably just do both IF I can find replacements. I do not know how old this system is but assume 40+ years, maybe 50.</div>
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This is what it looks like before full removal. At this stage in disassembly, it looks nothing like any of the videos I have looked at online. </div>
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Does anyone recognize this? What are my chances of finding a replacement? Or should I just hope I can rebuild it?</div>
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I can find no markings to ID the system. </div>
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Thanks</div>
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