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On Friday, December 19, 2025 at 04:58:10 AM EST, eric@megageek.com <eric@megageek.com> wrote:
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<div><div>><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Years ago I used
AllData, if I remember correctly, it was mostly just the pdfs of the </span></div><div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;">>manuals,
but not that great. I remember one time I was looking for a sensor
on a </span></div><div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;">>Mercedes 190D, and the image was just of the sensor, but it was an
'illustration' and </span></div><div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;">>impossible to figure out where it was on the car.</span> <br></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Interesting. I don't remember the name of the system we were using at the school as that was back in 2007. But it was very good. I have several friends that are professional mechanics and they have talked about using alldata and similar systems and appear to be very happy with the results.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Also, isn't it
make specific, or do you get access to all makes/models?</span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;"><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;">I believe that may still be true. Like how many of use hobbyist have Lambo's we need to work on. <img title="Emoji" alt="Emoji" class="yahoo-emoji-wrapper" src="https://s.yimg.com/nq/yemoji_assets/latest/yemoji_assets/1f642.png" style="padding: 0px 2px; vertical-align: middle;" data-inlineimagemanipulating="true" width="16" height="16"><br></span>
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<br clear="none"><div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;">>I'm not trying
to bad mouth it, but I don't remember it being worth the price. Maybe
it's </span></div><div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;">>changed. I'll love to hear more about what you think of it,
has it gotten better?</span> <br></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">In the past I'm pretty sure that's why I never used it. But reciently I've come across several problems on these newer cars that I definitely could use some help on and I looked into Alldata. I think they may have changed their DIY usages. I thought there was one option for a specific car and one for maybe 2 or 3 cars. But last time I looked it seemed to be time duration, like 1 mo. But for a problem problem, $20 for a mo isn't bad, especially if it helps you find the problem. <br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;">But right now,
with youtube and AI, I've been getting great results. (but I'm always willing
to </span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;">>buy another tool!) 8>)</span> <br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I definitely agree. I was just trying to say there is an additional tool available that may be worth looking to. Our cell phones and AI sure have helped the DIYer. I can't believe that we ever got along with out these tools.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div>
><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;">FWIW on the AI
side. The Army released it's own AI and I was totally blow away by
it. I </span></div><div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;">>had a white paper to write (about 3 pages, in a very specific
format.) I just put in the data </span></div><div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;">>for each portion of the white paper,
in normal speaking voice, and in less than 30 seconds, </span></div><div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;">>I had a VERY professional,
perfectly formatted white paper. It even included some </span></div><div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;">>additional
technical data to expand on what I fed it (and yes, I checked it and it
was </span></div><div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;">>correct.) I was really impressed.</span> <br></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I keep hearing stories like this. I haven't had the need for anything like that now that I'm retired. But I have taken some long items I've written and asked AI to help clean them up and maybe shorten them. What I got back wasn't what I was looking for. I guess I just didn't give it the right guidance. I need more practice.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;">However, I totally
agree that AI needs to be verified and doubled checked. As an instructor </span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;">>in the Army, we have student's try to pass off papers that were AI generated
and it is very </span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;">>clear what is AI. </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;">I find it's best
use is to have it do formatting, and the 'boiler plate' work. </span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;">>The
'substance' needs to come from the person.</span> <br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">True. I will use MS Doc's to go over something I've written to check my grammar and spelling. It does a great job at that, a lot better than just a spelling checker. It will catch things like there and their that a spelling checker won't. But spelling checkers sure were a great improvement of nothing! <img title="Emoji" alt="Emoji" class="yahoo-emoji-wrapper" src="https://s.yimg.com/nq/yemoji_assets/latest/yemoji_assets/1f642.png" style="padding: 0px 2px; vertical-align: middle;" data-inlineimagemanipulating="true" width="16" height="16"> Me being dyslexic my spelling leaves a lot to be desired.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div>><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Have a great day!</span> <br></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Thanks, you also!!!</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">JohnT<br></div><div><br></div><br></div></div>
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