<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">I thought I would resurrect Moose’s discussion to share a recent article from Haggerty on the use of AI to diagnose vehicle problems. In a nutshell, their experience mirrors Moose’s and suggests we might all want to add ChatGTP into our toolboxes.<div><br></div><div><div style="display: block;"><div style="-webkit-user-select: all; -webkit-user-drag: element; display: inline-block;" class="apple-rich-link" draggable="true" role="link" data-url="https://www.hagerty.com/media/maintenance-and-tech/tested-is-ai-your-next-classic-car-mechanic/?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=MED_UN_NA_EML_UN_UN_WeekendRoadTrip&hashed_email=c8a202749fb3ee180da46bc01753dfea37cacafc792579d503edc6e326ce4e4e&dtm_em=c8a202749fb3ee180da46bc01753dfea37cacafc792579d503edc6e326ce4e4e"><a style="border-radius:10px;font-family:-apple-system, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;display:block;-webkit-user-select:none;width:300px;user-select:none;-webkit-user-modify:read-only;user-modify:read-only;overflow:hidden;text-decoration:none;" class="lp-rich-link" rel="nofollow" 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embarrassed to say it.</font>
<br>
<br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">First, I checked the intake for oil
thinking that would show me if it was a pcv valve that failed. It
was clean.</font>
<br>
<br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">HOWEVER, I didn't realize the best way
to check them is to just pull them out and replace them. (It was $4.50
and $8 for the grommet.) Actually, if you pull them out and shake
them, you should hear it rattle.</font>
<br>
<br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">Well, I replaced it. And no more oil
leak!!!!! I also borescoped the cylinders (all were near perfect)
and replaced the spark plugs while I was there. Car runs much smoother
now as a result!</font>
<br>
<br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">So, who was the winner that told me
this...</font>
<br>
<br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">AI. That is right, I put the question
to ChatGPT and that was the first thing it told me to try. It gave
me a nice list of things to try in order.</font>
<br>
<br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">Since I figured, I was on a roll, I
pushed on. One of the problems with the car that we never had the
'radio security code' and after a battery replacement, the radio was locked.</font>
<br>
<br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">So I found a link to a Honda site where
you can recover the codes, but it required the S/N of the radio (and car
VIN.) No problem I figured. Taking the radio out was 2 clips
and 3 screws to get the dash off of it. HOWEVER, there was a surprise
hidden for 'non-Honda' mechanics that may try to do this. The button
for the hazard lights has an electrical connector attached to it. Like
all automotive connectors, it requires a magic spell, 2 incantations, and
a bit of unicorn farts to disconnect it (Seriously, why can't they standardize
electrical connectors?) </font>
<br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">Anyway, when you get it apart, the spring
that returns the hazard light button is held in-between the switch and
the connector. So guess where this spring shoots one you disconnect
the plug. That's right, straight into the depths of the dash board.
CRUD!</font>
<br>
<br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">Luckily, I found a spring that worked
in my 'springs and things' draw and was able to get it all back together.
So the car now has a radio as well.</font>
<br>
<br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">In the end, I'm a happy man and the
SO thinks I can walk on water. Don't worry, I'm sure I'll screw up
soon enough to dispel that image. 8>)</font>
<br>
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