<div dir="ltr">There are many paths up the mountain, but the view is always the same.<div><br></div><div>Ask the question at least 3 times to get a hint of the true answer is my experience.</div><div><br></div><div> --Miq</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 18, 2025 at 5:21 PM Jimmie Mayfield <<a href="mailto:mayfield%2Bshoptalk@sackheads.org">mayfield+shoptalk@sackheads.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<div>ChatGPT and Gemini and Claude are
useful tools. But I've run into a couple situations where AI
answers, Gemini's in particular, were complete fabrications. Most
recently, I'd asked Gemini to summarize the backstory for an
online novel that I've been reading. Gemini's answers were
completely believable and, in some cases, completely false.
Descriptions of events that never occurred and events that did
occur but involved different characters. (It was fascinating how
the answers wove a cohesive picture that wound up at the same
place as the original novel but took a different path to get
there.)</div>
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<div>Trust but verify is the name of the
game.</div>
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I thought I would resurrect Moose’s discussion to share a recent
article from Haggerty on the use of AI to diagnose vehicle
problems. In a nutshell, their experience mirrors Moose’s and
suggests we might all want to add ChatGTP into our toolboxes.
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<div>On Nov 21, 2025, at 6:42 PM, Moose
<a href="mailto:eric@megageek.com" target="_blank"><eric@megageek.com></a> wrote:</div>
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<div><font size="2" face="sans-serif">Well gurus, I fixed
the Honda and I'm almost
embarrassed to say it.</font>
<br>
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<font size="2" face="sans-serif">First, I checked the
intake for oil
thinking that would show me if it was a pcv valve that
failed. It
was clean.</font>
<br>
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<font size="2" face="sans-serif">HOWEVER, I didn't realize
the best way
to check them is to just pull them out and replace them.
(It was $4.50
and $8 for the grommet.) Actually, if you pull them out
and shake
them, you should hear it rattle.</font>
<br>
<br>
<font size="2" face="sans-serif">Well, I replaced it. And
no more oil
leak!!!!! I also borescoped the cylinders (all were
near perfect)
and replaced the spark plugs while I was there. Car
runs much smoother
now as a result!</font>
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<font size="2" face="sans-serif">So, who was the winner
that told me
this...</font>
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<font size="2" face="sans-serif">AI. That is right, I put
the question
to ChatGPT and that was the first thing it told me to
try. It gave
me a nice list of things to try in order.</font>
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<font size="2" face="sans-serif">Since I figured, I was on
a roll, I
pushed on. One of the problems with the car that we
never had the
'radio security code' and after a battery replacement,
the radio was locked.</font>
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<font size="2" face="sans-serif">So I found a link to a
Honda site where
you can recover the codes, but it required the S/N of
the radio (and car
VIN.) No problem I figured. Taking the radio out was 2
clips
and 3 screws to get the dash off of it. HOWEVER, there
was a surprise
hidden for 'non-Honda' mechanics that may try to do
this. The button
for the hazard lights has an electrical connector
attached to it. Like
all automotive connectors, it requires a magic spell, 2
incantations, and
a bit of unicorn farts to disconnect it (Seriously, why
can't they standardize
electrical connectors?) </font>
<br>
<font size="2" face="sans-serif">Anyway, when you get it
apart, the spring
that returns the hazard light button is held in-between
the switch and
the connector. So guess where this spring shoots one
you disconnect
the plug. That's right, straight into the depths of the
dash board.
CRUD!</font>
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<br>
<font size="2" face="sans-serif">Luckily, I found a spring
that worked
in my 'springs and things' draw and was able to get it
all back together.
So the car now has a radio as well.</font>
<br>
<br>
<font size="2" face="sans-serif">In the end, I'm a happy
man and the
SO thinks I can walk on water. Don't worry, I'm sure
I'll screw up
soon enough to dispel that image. 8>)</font>
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