<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">There literally is much more spam being sent than legitimate emails and the email providers have had to get more aggressive with their filtering. The spammers continually evolve their messages real-time to look like legitimate email, and then the legitimate emails start to look more like spam and get caught-up in the filters at the domain level as well as at the individual inbox level.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I was the CIO at the University of Southern California and we received over 30 million emails each day with 90+% of them being phishes, spams, sales, etc. It almost is like extortion as we needed to keep buying more and more spam processing hardware just to filter through all of the junk mail being sent at us quickly enough to find and deliver the legitimate email in a timely manner. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">So what happens, unfortunately, is that there are false-positives and some non-zero amount of legitimate email will not be delivered as it was filtered at the domain-level, and some delivered email will be flagged as spam and sent to your junk email folders. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Email from the same sender may get tagged as spam today and a different email from that same sender was delivered last week because the filters are constantly adapting the the emails they are processing at the time (e.g., because of other spam being sent that day, the content of a sender's message may hit the probability level to get flagged even though you have received email from that same person yesterday). It really has less to do with the sender or the content of their message than it does with what the spammers are doing at the same time when the filters are making the comparisons.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Nov 1, 2025 at 4:01 PM Jack Brooks <<a href="mailto:JIBrooks@live.com">JIBrooks@live.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg166059182658729795">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">It’s been like this for years. Unless it was another list, I seem to recall that at one point mjb did something to remedy it, but it’s for some reason, it seems to have slipped back into
someone’s bad graces and gets nailed as junk by Outlook, even with my junk settings on “Low”. A huge number of our members, as well as the list name are on my Safe recipient list, but the emails still get tagged. I don’t know what the answer is.
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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, November 1, 2025 7:52 AM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’d say about 1/3 to 1/2 of all emails from this group go into my spam folder. (Gmail address accessed through Apple's Mail App.) This thread is a good example. I got Pat’s response in my inbox, while Tim’s original was in my junk folder.
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