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Agree on the HF hoist. Load rating is too light for the canoe and
the hooks look thin. It was a representative example of some
pulleys to raise the canoe before it was better secured with some
sort of strap or other device.<br>
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Brian<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/28/2025 3:23 PM, Tim . wrote:<br>
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If you use the hook and pulley set up from horriblefreight, make
sure that you add a back up to the hooks. They turned out to not
be enough for (one of) the bikes I used to hang above my Datsun.
Fortunately, when one came down the Datto was not in the
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Shop-talk <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net"><shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net></a> on behalf
of Jack Brooks <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:JIBrooks@live.com"><JIBrooks@live.com></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 28, 2025 3:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net">shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net"><Shop-talk@autox.team.net></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] Eye Lag bolt pilot hole in
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">That’s
a nice setup. I may grab a pair for our bicycles and see
if I am comfortable with their strength relative to the
canoe or if I need to build my own similarly. If I am
comfortable lifting with this setup, I could have
pre-installed cables to support the boat during storage.
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Brian Kemp <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bk13@earthlink.net"><bk13@earthlink.net></a>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 28, 2025 10:00 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jack Brooks <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jibrooks@live.com"><jibrooks@live.com></a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net">shop-talk@autox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] Eye Lag bolt pilot hole
in ceiling</span></p>
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<p><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black">Jack - To
store my 50lb kayak at my previous house, I had a hoist
setup along the lines of the link below, but with
separate ropes for the bow and stern off to the side.</span></p>
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<p style="margin:0.1rem 0"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black"><a
href="https://www.harborfreight.com/bicycle-lift-95803.html"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.harborfreight.com/bicycle-lift-95803.html</a></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0.1rem 0"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black">I'd drive
the car in with the kayak on the roof, attached bow and
stern hooks, then pull the kayak up to the rafters. I
then had a pair of straps to more safely hold the kayak.</span></p>
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From: Jack Brooks <<a href="mailto:jibrooks@live.com"
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Sent: Jul 27, 2025 1:34 PM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net"
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Subject: [Shop-talk] Eye Lag bolt pilot hole in ceiling</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="">Team,</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="">I recently moved and can
no longer keep my canoe outside. The best place to
store this 75 +/- pound canoe is hanging from the
ceiling, OVER a car, so I want to be sure I get this
right. I have 4, 5/16” Eye Lag Bolts that are going
into the ceiling. One end of the rope will terminate at
either a set of cleats on the wall or more eyebolts and
the other end suspending the canoe via the Eye Lag
Bolts. It overdesigned, but it’s hanging over a car I
cherish. </p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="">My question is the pilot
hole for the 5/16<sup>th</sup> Eye Lag bolt. I am
screwing them vertically up into the ceiling’s new
2x4’s, so I am thinking the pilot hole should be a
smidge on the tighter side and use soap or paraffin to
help reduce the friction of installing them. </p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="">I’m looking for thoughts
on the size of the pilot hole, keeping in mind that
while the load is light, it’s a vertical hanging
arrangement.</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="">Thanks in advance,</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="">Jack</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="">p.s. Moving has been a
rearranging nightmare. We had a home with three car
bays and a 6 foot high paved and dry crawlspace with
tons of storage room. I am forcing everything into a
two bay garage with an attached single wide, 42 foot
deep bay that will hold our daily driver, two Triumph
cars, a Sprinter van and a workbench. I do have some
basement storage too. I’m using a lot more vertical
storage and it’s getting there………</p>
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