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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Brian, <o:p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">That’s a nice setup. I may grab a pair for our bicycles and see if I am comfortable with their strength relative to the canoe or if I need to build my own similarly. If I am comfortable lifting
with this setup, I could have pre-installed cables to support the boat during storage.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jack<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Brian Kemp <bk13@earthlink.net>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 28, 2025 10:00 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jack Brooks <jibrooks@live.com>; shop-talk@autox.team.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] Eye Lag bolt pilot hole in ceiling<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Jack - To store my 50lb kayak at my previous house, I had a hoist setup along the lines of the link below, but with separate ropes for the bow and stern off to the side.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0.1rem 0"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="https://www.harborfreight.com/bicycle-lift-95803.html">https://www.harborfreight.com/bicycle-lift-95803.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0.1rem 0"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">I'd drive the car in with the kayak on the roof, attached bow and stern hooks, then pull the kayak up to the rafters. I then had a pair of straps to more safely hold the kayak.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0.1rem 0"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Brian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Jack Brooks <<a href="mailto:jibrooks@live.com">jibrooks@live.com</a>><br>
Sent: Jul 27, 2025 1:34 PM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net">shop-talk@autox.team.net</a> <<a href="mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net">Shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>><br>
Subject: [Shop-talk] Eye Lag bolt pilot hole in ceiling<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Team,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I recently moved and can no longer keep my canoe outside. The best place to store this 75 +/- pound canoe is hanging from the ceiling, OVER a car, so I want to be sure I get this
right. I have 4, 5/16” Eye Lag Bolts that are going into the ceiling. One end of the rope will terminate at either a set of cleats on the wall or more eyebolts and the other end suspending the canoe via the Eye Lag Bolts. It overdesigned, but it’s hanging
over a car I cherish. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">My question is the pilot hole for the 5/16<sup>th</sup> Eye Lag bolt. I am screwing them vertically up into the ceiling’s new 2x4’s, so I am thinking the pilot hole should be a
smidge on the tighter side and use soap or paraffin to help reduce the friction of installing them. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I’m looking for thoughts on the size of the pilot hole, keeping in mind that while the load is light, it’s a vertical hanging arrangement.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks in advance,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Jack<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">p.s. Moving has been a rearranging nightmare. We had a home with three car bays and a 6 foot high paved and dry crawlspace with tons of storage room. I am forcing everything into
a two bay garage with an attached single wide, 42 foot deep bay that will hold our daily driver, two Triumph cars, a Sprinter van and a workbench. I do have some basement storage too. I’m using a lot more vertical storage and it’s getting there………<o:p></o:p></p>
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