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If you use the hook and pulley set up from horriblefreight, make sure that you add a back up to the hooks. They turned out to not be enough for (one of) the bikes I used to hang above my Datsun. Fortunately, when one came down the Datto was not in the garage. </div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Jack Brooks <JIBrooks@live.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 28, 2025 3:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> shop-talk@autox.team.net <Shop-talk@autox.team.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] Eye Lag bolt pilot hole in ceiling</font>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Brian, </span>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">That’s a nice setup. I may grab a pair for our bicycles and see if I am comfortable with their strength relative to the canoe or if I need to build my own similarly. If I am comfortable
lifting with this setup, I could have pre-installed cables to support the boat during storage.
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thanks!</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jack</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Brian Kemp <bk13@earthlink.net>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 28, 2025 10:00 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jack Brooks <jibrooks@live.com>; shop-talk@autox.team.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] Eye Lag bolt pilot hole in ceiling</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black">Jack - To store my 50lb kayak at my previous house, I had a hoist setup along the lines of the link below, but with separate ropes for the bow and stern off to the side.</span></p>
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<p style="margin:0.1rem 0"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black"><a href="https://www.harborfreight.com/bicycle-lift-95803.html">https://www.harborfreight.com/bicycle-lift-95803.html</a></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0.1rem 0"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black">I'd drive the car in with the kayak on the roof, attached bow and stern hooks, then pull the kayak up to the rafters. I then had a pair of straps to more safely hold the kayak.</span></p>
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<p style="margin:0.1rem 0"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black">Brian</span></p>
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<p>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Jack Brooks <<a href="mailto:jibrooks@live.com">jibrooks@live.com</a>><br>
Sent: Jul 27, 2025 1:34 PM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net">shop-talk@autox.team.net</a> <<a href="mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net">Shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>><br>
Subject: [Shop-talk] Eye Lag bolt pilot hole in ceiling</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="">Team,</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="">I recently moved and can no longer keep my canoe outside. The best place to store this 75 +/- pound canoe is hanging from the ceiling, OVER a car, so I want to be sure I get this right. I have 4, 5/16” Eye Lag Bolts that are
going into the ceiling. One end of the rope will terminate at either a set of cleats on the wall or more eyebolts and the other end suspending the canoe via the Eye Lag Bolts. It overdesigned, but it’s hanging over a car I cherish. </p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="">My question is the pilot hole for the 5/16<sup>th</sup> Eye Lag bolt. I am screwing them vertically up into the ceiling’s new 2x4’s, so I am thinking the pilot hole should be a smidge on the tighter side and use soap or paraffin
to help reduce the friction of installing them. </p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="">I’m looking for thoughts on the size of the pilot hole, keeping in mind that while the load is light, it’s a vertical hanging arrangement.</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="">Thanks in advance,</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="">Jack</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="">p.s. Moving has been a rearranging nightmare. We had a home with three car bays and a 6 foot high paved and dry crawlspace with tons of storage room. I am forcing everything into a two bay garage with an attached single wide,
42 foot deep bay that will hold our daily driver, two Triumph cars, a Sprinter van and a workbench. I do have some basement storage too. I’m using a lot more vertical storage and it’s getting there………</p>
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