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    I'll offer a general observation: Chinese batteries are crap, and a
    lot, if not most, of the 'name brand' batteries--Duracell,
    Energizer, etc.--you see on the Brazilian rainforest site are
    counterfeit (although you'll occasionally get a Chinese battery that
    is reasonably good). I got a 'tip' off Reddit that DigiKey sells
    legit batteries, and I just ordered some Panasonic CR2450s from them
    (both my welding helmet and Mustang key fobs use them).<br>
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    I have an old Makita 9V drill that I don't use, but can't bear to
    chuck (pun intended). I bought knock-off batteries and they barely
    hold a charge, so there it sits, full of memories but useless. I'm
    all in on DeWalt, but you even have to be careful buying DW
    batteries as there are a lot of deceitful websites that advertise
    'DeWalt' but sell Chinese crap.<br>
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    I think best you can do is buy some of the counterfeits and hope for
    the best, or put your miter saw in your personal museum (like my
    Makita).<br>
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    Bob<br>
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      Thanks, David.  I hadn’t noticed that the Amazon replacement was
      Ni-MH.  I know a little bit about Li-Ion and Ni-Cad batteries but
      nothing about Ni-MH.  Does the fact that the replacements would be
      Ni-MH have any impact on my rebuild vs. buy decision?
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                        an old Makita drill that came with Ni-Cad a
                        battery that eventually stopped being usable.  I
                        bought a pair of lithium-based replacement
                        batteries.  On the surface they looked like a
                        much better option with double the capacity and
                        they worked with existing drill and charger. 
                        But (there's always a but, isn't there?) to make
                        Lithium batteries work in a Ni-Cad environment
                        required a electronic circuit and this circuit
                        was always on and drew enough power to deplete
                        the battery overnight.  I could charge them up
                        in the evening and the next morning they would
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                      <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">But I see these
                        are Nickel-Metal Hydride batteries.  Ni-MH
                        batteries have characteristics more similar to
                        Lithium - at least with regards to the charging
                        regime (I've designed a battery charger for
                        Ni-MH so I am familiar with this) but are less
                        susceptible to abuse.  I also see the bullet
                        point about no self-discharge - which was my
                        problem.  This is a $45 gamble (as it is with
                        most no-name stuff from the Pacific rim) but
                        YMMV.  This might be a good one.  Let us know.</div>
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                      <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">BTW I bought a
                        pair of Milwaukee 12V tools and never looked
                        back.  I pitched all my Ni-Cad drills and
                        recycled the batteries.</div>
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                            <div>I have an old Bosch 24v miter saw that
                              I would like to be able to continue using
                              for quick, non critical cuts.  The only
                              problem is that the NiCad batteries won’t
                              hold a charge long enough to be useful.
                              And, I don’t think there is a way to
                              utilize other, e.g. Milwaukee M18,
                              batteries in a 24v system.  Besides, there
                              don’t appear to be any adaptors available.
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                              <div>So, that leaves me with two choices:
                                rebuild my current batteries or buy new
                                ones on Amazon.  I’ve taken one of the
                                battery packs apart and can see that it
                                just uses standard Sub C 1.2v batteries
                                - 20 of them!  I’ve never rebuilt
                                battery packs but it looks pretty
                                straight forward; just time consuming.
                                 20 Sub C batteries would run me about
                                $40-50.  (Having it done professionally
                                looks to cost at least twice that.)  Or,
                                I could just buy a Chinese-made
                                replacement pack for just a few bucks
                                more.  (<a
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                              <div>I’m sure the replacement batteries
                                are also made in China, but is there any
                                reason to assume that rebuilding the
                                packs myself will result in a better,
                                longer lasting battery?  Any advice from
                                those who have done this before will be
                                much appreciated.</div>
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                              <div>Thanks,</div>
                              <div>Jim</div>
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