<div dir="auto"><div>These foam inserts decrease ambient noise by 16-18 dB.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If there's a crying kid on the plane you can ignore them fairly easily, but still converse with the flight attendant. However, I pull them out to have a conversation. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I've never used them while driving, because I don't typically listen to music on my phone, but also because it's illegal in 1/3 of the States to have ear buds in while driving. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div>As a point of reference, the roll-squeeze foam ear plugs that are used for heavy equipment or shooting ranges decrease noise by 32-38 dB. These _will_ block horns and distant sirens. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If you live in a state where it's legal to use ear buds, try it out. </div><div dir="auto"> --Miq</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Oct 26, 2024, 9:46 PM <<a href="mailto:alfuller194@gmail.com">alfuller194@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div class="m_7990028572878735704WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Miq – do you have any feel for whether the earphones you recommended allow enough ambient sound in to be used when driving an open car? I could use something that knocks down the road- and wind-noise, but still allows me to hear sirens, horns, etc. [not to mention being on the legal side of being able to hear]. I’ve used similar units in the past, combining basic off-the-shelf earphones with custom ear molds.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">It would be great to get something that works without a lot of work!!<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">-----------------------------------<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">All the best,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Al Fuller<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Shop-talk <<a href="mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>MIQ MILLMAN<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 26, 2024 12:21 PM<br><b>To:</b> Tim . <<a href="mailto:tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Shop Talk <<a href="mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] reaching out to the collective....<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Airplanes are one of the last few things that are still using 3.5mm jacks for audio.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I use these:<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://a.co/d/gKquRdn" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://a.co/d/gKquRdn</a><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">They have changeable wired connectors that allow me to swap them for a usb-c connector so I can connect them to my phone or tablet.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">One change I do is swap out the thin silicon bulbs for the ear canal with a replacement memory foam upgrade:<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://a.co/d/ftfoAIx" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://a.co/d/ftfoAIx</a><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I've used this most recently on a trip to India where I was in a plane for over 16 hours on the longest leg, as well as a couple of 17+ hour flights to South Africa.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">These earbuds are not active, but with the memory foam they do a great job and have excellent sound quality for under $30<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I had another pair that lasted at least 10 years, thanks to being able to replace the wires when they degraded from over bending.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I've been flying a lot the past 3 years, averaging over 150,000 miles of international travel, and used them even when flying business/first where the airline offers a powered over ear headset in the seat, due to comfort.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">ymmv<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> --Miq<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 7:19<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span>PM Tim . <<a href="mailto:tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">.....OT ask but you all have more knowledge than anyone else I can ask. <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I need noise cancelling head phones for an upcoming flight. <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I prefer wired for some fool reason ( call me old and old school ) but I would consider wireless.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I did some google searching but prefer, again, as I've asked before on other topics, firsthand knowledge. <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">My fogged brain thinks I've asked about this topic before but I cannot find any email proof of this. <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Thanks all<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">a foggy old man<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">_______________________________________________<br><br><a href="mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Shop-talk@autox.team.net</a><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Suggested annual donation $12.96<br>Archive: <a 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