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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>I don’t know if this is relevant to the current discussion, but a friend has the Cyclone Rake and also has issues with having something to get it to stand up on its own when not in use. He is using the jack from Cyclone Rake, but it must be totally removed when not in use [as opposed to just folded up and out of the way…]. I guess if we come up with a solution he will be grateful too!! His description of the unit is below, with pictures.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>----------------<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>All the best,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Al Fuller<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 18, 2023 11:13 AM<br><b>To:</b> Alfonso Fuller <alfuller194@gmail.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: FW: [Shop-talk] shortening trailer jack<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Al, <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><img width=562 height=242 style='width:5.8541in;height:2.5208in' id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:ii_lk8lvyln4"></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>similar to mine...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><img width=562 height=473 style='width:5.8541in;height:4.927in' id="Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:ii_lk8lh4b73"><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>The Cyclone rake has a mounting bracket that has to be installed. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>The LA115 (mine) John Deere has a transmission neutral lever that is in the way (in this case).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>The lever is pulled so someone can move the tractor around without starting it.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>If I put the plate above the lever, I can't reach it under the plate to safely pull on it or push it in. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>So I mounted the bracket below the lever.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>With the jack completely recessed up, I have to lift the trailer up a couple of inches to mount the jack or unmount it.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>The jack is not designed to be left on the trailer while connected to the tractor. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>The trailer is front heavy because the engine is on the front of the trailer.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><img width=542 height=290 style='width:5.6458in;height:3.0208in' id="Picture_x0020_3" src="cid:ii_lk8lbhhv1"><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><img width=542 height=407 style='width:5.6458in;height:4.2395in' id="Picture_x0020_4" src="cid:ii_lk8l8erf0"><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>I expect at some point I'll get a bigger tractor and the mounting points will be different.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Meanwhile, I'll have to figure something out or just keep lifting (not easy or light).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>The front wheel is fine if on a smooth surface. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Jul 18, 2023, 12:40 PM <<a href="mailto:alfuller194@gmail.com" target="_blank">alfuller194@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I’m not visualizing what you are describing, but if the wheel is too small – maybe get a cheap caster at Northern Tools or Harbor Freight?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>----------------<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>All the best,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Al Fuller<o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <b>From:</b> <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 17, 2023 8:03 PM<br><b>To:</b> Al Fuller <<a href="mailto:alfuller194@gmail.com" target="_blank">alfuller194@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: FW: [Shop-talk] shortening trailer jack<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> Ok, not useless.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Sorry..<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>It doesn't work well for me because I "had to" mount the trailer mounting plate low on my tractor.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Unfortunately it's too low for the Jack (already at its lowest adjustment) to attach easily.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> IMHO the wheel on the Jack is too small.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> I need to figure out how to make them work together.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> On Mon, Jul 17, 2023, 9:49 PM Al Fuller <<a href="mailto:alfuller194@gmail.com" target="_blank">alfuller194@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Ok<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>________________<br>Best Regards,<br>Al Fuller<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Mon, Jul 17, 2023, 6:18pm *** wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I bought the official one, worthless IMHO.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Mon, Jul 17, 2023, 3:36 PM <<a href="mailto:alfuller194@gmail.com" target="_blank">alfuller194@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>What do you use [if anything?]<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> ----------------<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>All the best,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> Al Fuller<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <b>From:</b> Shop-talk <<a href="mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank">shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>john<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 17, 2023 7:33 AM<br><b>To:</b> shop-talk <<a href="mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net" target="_blank">shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [Shop-talk] shortening trailer jack<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <span style='font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif'>I've got a typical screw down trailer jack that I want to use for a smaller, shorter project</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <span style='font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif'>I need something to hold up a leaf vacuum when disconnected from the mower and this</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif'>jack is too long and ungainly for this little project</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <span style='font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif'>I haven't taken it apart yet so looking for some insight. It shouldn't be complicated (shorten outer shaft and inner screw, right)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif'>but don't want to render it useless</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <span style='font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif'>thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif'>john</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>