<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Are you needing to know if you left the lights on while you're home (vs away from home)? If the fact the lights are on in the garage is not easily visible from the house could you add an outside light - visible from the house - tied in to the interior lights? </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">If you need to know if you left the lights on while you are away from home then of course this won't help...</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">EjR </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 2:49 PM Steven Trovato <<a href="mailto:strovato@optonline.net">strovato@optonline.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Well, there is some risk with IOT, but I don't think the exposure is that
great with this situation. What would the hacker do, blink my
workshop light? Anyway, I am familiar with X-10. What you are
doing is controlling the light like any timer would, with the added 1
minute extra activation. This is still not doing what I asked for,
which is to notify me if I forgot to turn the light off. BTW, the 1
hour was really more of an example than an estimate of shop usage.
Just like my garage door, I get a warning if the door is open for an
hour. Then that repeats on an interval until I close it. That
doesn't mean I don't leave it open all day if I am doing something.
It just means my phone alerts me periodically that the door is
open. It isn't a big deal to ignore it in those cases.
Actually, as far as hacking IOT goes, the garage door is a greater risk
than controlling my light. A hacker could theoretically open my
garage door. I guess one would have to balance the risk of that
against the likelihood of accidentally leaving the door open all
night. I'm pretty surprised that in this world of home automation,
there are lots of ways to control my lights, but there doesn't seem to be
a way to get a warning if the light is left on. <br><br>
-Steve<br><br>
At 11:40 AM 1/20/2023, <a href="mailto:eric@megageek.com" target="_blank">eric@megageek.com</a> wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite"><font size="2">First, I am not a
fan of ANY IOT device, solution, etc. So I don't put anything like
that anywhere in my home networks.</font> <br><br>
<font size="2">Next, sometimes old school is best. There are X-10
devices that are way out dated (and hence, no one is trying to hack them,
not like they can without accessing your AC current on your side of the
transformer. If someone can do that, you have bigger
problems.) They can also be bought for pennies.</font> <br>
<br>
<font size="2">Anyway, there are lots of switches and relays and such to
control 120 vac.</font> <br><br>
<font size="2">There is also a serial (read- NOT NETWORKABLE)
interface. You need an old computer to run it (and it can be a
stand alone machine.)</font> <br><br>
<font size="2">You program the interface to activate in anyway you want to
or even run marcos. Then the computer can be turned off.</font>
<br><br>
<font size="2">What I would do would be you program the main 'X-10' switch
that you use when you want to turn on the garage light. The macro
would do this...</font> <br>
<font size="2">-Turn on light G-1</font> <br>
<font size="2">-Wait 60 minutes</font> <br>
<font size="2">-Turn off light G-1</font> <br>
<font size="2">-Wait 30 seconds</font> <br>
<font size="2">-Turn on light G-1</font> <br>
<font size="2">-Wait 1 minute</font> <br>
<font size="2">-Turn off light G-1</font> <br><br>
<font size="2">The second 'turn on' would be if you were under a car or
something. You know your 1 hour is up when the light goes off, you
can get up, the light will come back on, you walk over to the switch and
press it. This will start the macro all over again.</font>
<br><br>
<font size="2">Note- I'm having serious questions about your 'shop status'
if you ONLY need a light on for an hour in your shop. 8>)</font>
<br><br>
<font size="2">Just an old school solution with new world security
considerations.</font> <br><br>
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