<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Some cars have a (possibly hidden?) button to press that allows you to shift a dead car out of park. Don't know if the Scion has that (our '17 RAV4 does). </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">EjR </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 1, 2023 at 4:37 PM John T. Blair <<a href="mailto:jblair1948@cox.net">jblair1948@cox.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
Hey gang,<br>
<br>
Got a simiple question for your all. But before I start, I want to thank the<br>
manufacturers of all the new cars and the new fangled crap they put <br>
on them, NOT!<br>
<br>
I own a '06 Scion xB and a '12 Scion xB, but I'm pretty sure this applies to<br>
other brands also.<br>
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1. Only the drivers door can be opened with a key<br>
<br>
2. Can't open the rear hatch/trunk as no key latch.<br>
<br>
3. A solenoid to "Lock" the gearshift in Park<br>
<br>
So now you have a dead battery. Wife and I went out yesterday morning to<br>
get so donuts to ring in the Ney Year with (an long standing tradition in my<br>
family. Got the donuts and went to go home. Put the key in the ignition<br>
and nothing! Great a dead battery.<br>
<br>
I have a jump box, and it's in the back behind the rear seat. Can't open the<br>
hatch as it's electrical. So I lay the back seat down and slide in <br>
and get the<br>
jump box. It's deader than a door nail also. So it's no help.<br>
<br>
Not to mention I can't get the car out of part to be able to push the car out<br>
of the parking space due to the electrical solenoid that needs to be retracted<br>
to allow me to move the gear shift lever.<br>
<br>
Called my sons (as they were home for Xmas) and they came to get us with<br>
jumper cables. We jump the car and start for home. Get home and go to<br>
take the battery out of my '06 and up in the wife's '12 so we can drive her<br>
car around.<br>
<br>
Again I want to thank the manufacture for saving me $1 by making the<br>
wiring harness fit so perfectly and for changing the way and type of battery<br>
used. We had to turn the battery around because one of the cars the <br>
positive post ends up closest to the fender, on the other car the negative<br>
post is closest to the fender. There is NOT enough give to move the wiring<br>
harness the 2" to make the connection to the other battery.<br>
<br>
I am thinking of taking a "aux" cigarette plug and connecting a 9V battery<br>
and to pluging that into the "aux" power outlet it to reverse feed <br>
the car's electrical system? I don't have an schmetics of the car's <br>
electrical system. I<br>
was hoping that a 9V battery would have enough power to allow you to <br>
nlock the doors, and possibly get the car out of park.<br>
<br>
Has anyone tried this. I thought I saw something like this <br>
advertised some years back.<br>
<br>
John<br>
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John T. Blair WA4OHZ email: <a href="mailto:jblair1948@cox.net" target="_blank">jblair1948@cox.net</a><br>
Va. Beach, Va Phone: (757) 495-8229<br>
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Eric Russell<div>Mebane, NC</div></div></div>