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I inherited a '96 Ranger and 2000 Lincoln LS; the Ranger gets farm
duties and the Lincoln is the designated grocery-getter. The Great
State of California is kind enough to send me a reminder every two
years to change their oil, top them up with fresh gas--sometimes I
throw a bottle of Techron in the tank--clean/replace air filters and
get them smogged. Oh, and send the state a check for their
helpfulness. <br>
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Costco now sells 5W-30 full synthetic in 5qt. containers cheaper
than they used to sell mineral oils, and they ship for free! The
Ranger, Lincoln, Honda ATV, zero-turn mower, edger, rototiller and
squirrel gasser all get the syn (eventually, when some old 10W-30
gets used up). The old Ford tractors (2) get the cheapest 10W-40 I
can find with free shipping and the Healeys get Valvoline 20W-50
Racing Oil loaded with ZDDP (stocking up before the State bans it; I
got about a 15-year supply plus filters). The Mustang GT/Bullitt
gets 'free oil changes for life' from the dealer--good thing, the
Coyote takes 10qts!--and I have a gallon or two of Ford's ubiquitous
5W-20 Semi-Syn for top-ups. My 'collection' sits on the shelf for
a while; I have to remember to shake the bottles before using as
some of the additives will settle to the bottom.<br>
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The biggest PITA? Properly disposing of the used oil.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/29/2022 12:43 PM, PJ McGarvey
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Side note: Recently bought a Ford Cobra 8.8 diff that was a NOS
piece from a closed dealership. Date tag was 1997. I opened it
up and the diff oil had turned to white paste, it smelled awful
but had a definite gear oil aroma. These had the Trak-Lok
"limited slip" so it's possible the modifier additive had
separated, but I checked with a few experts and all agreed it
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So after 25 years, I can confirm that oil does "go bad".</div>
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face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b>
Shop-talk <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net"><shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net></a> on behalf
of Gene Garrison <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gene@garrison-grafixx.com"><gene@garrison-grafixx.com></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 29, 2022 11:54 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net">shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] suv tires and oil question</font>
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<p>I'm glad you brought that up. I've always wondered about
changing oil.</p>
<p>So oil sitting in bottles on the shelf doesn't "go bad".
Right?</p>
<p>Then why does oil sitting in a rarely used engine need to be
changed? I know it now has contaminants and such in it, but
those aren't going to cause it to degrade, are they?</p>
<p>- GeneG<br>
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<div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">On 8/29/22 03:59, Jeff Scarbrough
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<div dir="auto">I just replaced a set of trailer tires that
had less than 2500 miles on them because they were ten years
old and definitely showing it.
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<div dir="auto">I consider tires to be like oil - they
should be changed at a mileage or time interval, whichever
comes first. It's just something you have to budget for.</div>
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02:04 Bob Spidell <<a
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<div>re: "How many years can a set of tires go ..."<br>
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Subject to debate, and how the tires are maintained.
Some--often people who make and sell tires--insist six
years is the limit, regardless of mileage, and if the
tires are constantly exposed to extreme weather and
mileage that's not unreasonable. OTOH, if the tires are
kept in a garage not subject to temperature extremes and
are only used 'around town' you can usually go more, 7
or 8 years wouldn't be too risky. At any rate, going
beyond 10 years is pushing your luck.<br>
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BUT ... for an SUV I'd be more cautious and probably
observe the 6-year 'rule.' SUVs and other trucks are top
heavy and a catastrophic failure--i.e. a blowout--esp.
on a front tire can cause the vehicle to roll over. Ford
just got slapped with a $1B+ liability charge for an old
truck that had a blowout, rolled, and the cab squashed
the elderly occupants. A couple decades ago Ford got
slammed when some incorrect, improperly inflated
Firestone tires--Ford and Firestone go WAY back--caused
some fatal rollover accidents with some Explorers.<br>
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My rule of thumb: If I find myself worrying about my
tires, it's time for new. Your tires are only three
years (+/-) old and, unless they're showing
'checking'--cracking--or other damage they should be
good for at least a couple more years. Check your tire
pressures regularly (at least once a month).<br>
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<div>On 8/28/2022 9:19 PM, Shannah Miller wrote:<br>
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<div>Thank you, Ian, for commenting to the group. I
will</div>
<div>need tires at some point, and that's good to
know.</div>
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<div>That said, my car is the spare car of the
family, and</div>
<div>has had the same tires since 2019. How many
years</div>
<div>can a set of tires go if they are just mostly
used to</div>
<div>putt around town? (My car has not quite 10,000
miles</div>
<div>on it.)<br>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Shannah<br>
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2022 at 7:20 PM Ian McFetridge <<a
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<div dir="auto">I have had the Michelin Defender
LTX on my pickup since fall 2020 and they are
wearing well, ride smooth and quiet. I’ve used
Michelins on trucks since I worked in the tire
dept at Sam’s in college. They always took the
least amount of weights to balance and had the
least returns for issues or to rebalance. The
manager at Costco said that is all still true
when I bought the last set. YMMV :)</div>
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<div dir="auto">Best </div>
<div dir="auto">Ian</div>
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Aug 28, 2022 at 8:03 PM john niolon <<a
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<div><font face="Segoe UI">shop content...
I drive my suburban into my shop</font></div>
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<div><font face="Segoe UI">time for
tires... always used Michelin for the
last 20 years with good service...
Vehicle is 2008 Suburban 1500 with 95%
highway or town ...no off road</font></div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">occasional
towing my hobby truck to shows on 20'
car hauler (once or twice a year with
load equalizing hitch...) Looking at
reviews on my first choice Michelin
Defender LTX/MS</font></div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">275/55-20.
The reviews talk a lot about road
noise and rough ride..... My current
Michelin Defenders (bought in Jan
2016 ride smooth and wear well.. 76K
miles on them so far)</font></div>
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<div><font face="Segoe UI">I just turned
75 and this might be my last set of
tires <img alt="Grinning Face with
Smiling Eyes" style="width:24px;
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align="absMiddle"> … so I'm looking
for your thoughts on Michelin or
others afa mileage, ride, noise etc.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Segoe UI">thanks</font></div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">john</font></div>
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