<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br>Howdy,<div><br></div><div>They come with clips that you can screw to the ceiling.  There's no fixture.  I don't know that a fixture would help in any event, since the LEDs are all surface mounted, so they wouldn't throw light up toward the ceiling in any event.<br><br>You all should do whatever you like, but after using both these as well as fluorescents, there's no way I would use a fluorescent fixture.  I might compare other LED solutions, but if they cost significantly more than these, I wouldn't bother.  I've been nothing but impressed / happy with them.</div></div><div><br></div>Mark<div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 7:14 PM Bob Spidell <<a href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net">bspidell@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    A quick glance doesn't show how they're mounted; anyone know? Seems
    like you'd still want a fixture to reflect light.<br>
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    <div>On 1/10/2022 1:42 PM, Mark Andy wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Howdy,<br>
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        If I were doing this, I would pretty much just throw away the
        existing stuff and put up these:<br>
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        <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Barrina-8500LM-Daylight-Output-Linkable/dp/B07RKZFD5Z/ref=sr_1_2_sspa" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Barrina-8500LM-Daylight-Output-Linkable/dp/B07RKZFD5Z/ref=sr_1_2_sspa</a><br>
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        I have a shop that was built around 7 years ago and stuff like
        this wasn't available at this cost, so I went with 4 tube
        fluorescent fixtures.  They've been "fine", but when I redid our
        daily driver parking garage last year I used the Barrina
        lights.  Super easy, nice bright light, and pretty cheap. 
        Absolutely no question that's what I'd do if I were redoing the
        shop / what I will do when the time comes when the existing
        fluorescents die.<br>
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        YMMV.<br>
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        Mark</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 3:08
          PM Bob Spidell <<a href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net" target="_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>>
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          <div> Since I was already 'LED curious,' I did a bit of
            research:<br>
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            - there are some LED tubes that require a ballast* ('Type
            A')<br>
            - there are some LED tubes that require bypassing of the
            ballast ('Type B')<br>
            - there are some LED tubes that work with ballast or
            without/bypassing, with some rewiring* ('Type A+B')<br>
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            If you want the least (initial) hassle, and have 'fresh'
            ballasts--they all fail, eventually--you can plug and play
            the 'A+B' type with a ballast then, when the ballast fails
            you can bypass it, which requires some rewiring (apparently,
            you can leave the dead ballast in place). <br>
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            * Need to check compatibility between tube and ballast.<br>
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            <div>On 1/10/2022 10:48 AM, Ian McFetridge wrote:<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">I used the Feit replacement LED tubes, it
                sounds like they are similar.  Here are the instructions
                for the Feit, maybe that will help?<br>
                <a href="https://www.feit.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/T4815_850_AB_LED_10_MANUAL_051019.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.feit.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/T4815_850_AB_LED_10_MANUAL_051019.pdf</a><br>
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                <div>Best,<br>
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                <div>Ian</div>
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 10, 2022
                  at 12:12 PM john niolon <<a href="mailto:jniolon@att.net" target="_blank">jniolon@att.net</a>>
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                    <div><font face="Segoe UI">Couple of years ago I
                        bought a box of Utilitech t81636f16-40...4' led
                        tubes...redid all my shop lights and was pleased
                        with them</font></div>
                    <div> </div>
                    <div><font face="Segoe UI">now I want to add some
                        fixtures in another part of shop and my memory
                        has failed... I know I had to rewire fixtures to
                        make them work</font></div>
                    <div><font face="Segoe UI">but can remember what I
                        did and instruction sheet is long gone or
                        lost...</font></div>
                    <div> </div>
                    <div><font face="Segoe UI">Utilititech was a Lowes
                        brand and now discontinued and Utilitech web
                        site is a joke    anyone tell me how to wire
                        these bulbs up either with or</font></div>
                    <div><font face="Segoe UI">without
                        ballast..,....seems I remember they were non
                        shunted bulbs...but now sure</font></div>
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                    <div><font face="Segoe UI">thanks</font></div>
                    <div><font face="Segoe UI">john</font></div>
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