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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>I had Torx caliper bolts once, as I recall it was on my 94 Mustang. Maybe T-55? First time I had to do brakes I needed a bit for the bolts, so I found a Snap-On guy (everyone knows that they’re the only thing worth buying and so 5 times the price of regular tools) and paid an atrocious price for a bit. Snapped right off, before loosening the first bolt. Desperate, on a Sunday, I went to NAPA and bought whatever kind they had on the wall display, well under $5.00. Worked just fine, and did several additional brake jobs on that car over the next few years. Used it on gas lift struts on Suburbans too. Still fine.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>Snap-On did give me a new bit, but that involved finding the same guy to order the bit and then get it. Took weeks and miles of driving. It’s still unused, in the drawer next to the one that works.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>FWIW, I have great luck with Torx, and only buy Torx construction screws if I have a choice. Way less likely to round out than Allen head, and certainly miles ahead of square drive. Now Phillips drywall screws and bits… Grrrr<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>Karl<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Shop-talk [mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>eric@megageek.com<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 30, 2021 7:40 PM<br><b>To:</b> Jim Franklin<br><b>Cc:</b> Shop-talk@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] What's the deal with impact torx sockets?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>That is what I'm looking for, 1/2" drive. But I'll take anything that works.</span> <br><br><br><br><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>From: </span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Jim Franklin <jamesf@groupwbench.org></span> <br><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>To: </span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>eric@megageek.com</span> <br><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>Cc: </span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Shop-talk@autox.team.net</span> <br><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>Date: </span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>05/30/2021 10:03 AM</span> <br><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>Subject: </span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Re: [Shop-talk] What's the deal with impact torx sockets?</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" noshade style='color:#A0A0A0' align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><br>One (useful) thing that occurs to me though, have you tried 1/2" drive instead of 3/8"? <br><br>jim <br><br>On May 30, 2021, at 9:46 AM, Jim Franklin <<a href="mailto:jamesf@groupwbench.org">jamesf@groupwbench.org</a>> wrote: <br><br>While I've never seen an impact Torx set, I still have the dent in my forehead from the floor jack handle I was using as leverage on a Torx bolt... I don't remember what broke, or much else from that day :-) <br><br>jim <br><br>On May 30, 2021, at 7:17 AM, <a href="mailto:eric@megageek.com">eric@megageek.com</a> wrote: <br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>OK, first, WHY DO THEY USE TORX IN HIGH TORQUE APPLICATIONS?</span> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br>These are the WORST fasteners I have ever used. (less flat blade screwdrivers.)</span> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br>Then, if they are going to use them, why can't they make a Torx impact socket set that doesn't twist and brake the first time you use it?</span> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br>OK, with that off my chest...</span> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br>What is the THE BRAND/SET of torx impact sockets that I can rely on? At this point, price isn't really an issue. I just want a set that I can use in an impact gun and remove a bolt without breaking every time. I would want a complete set of sizes, but it seems that I always break the T40 first (it seems to be the most common size.)</span> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br>FWIW, my first real injury while turning wrenches was with a Torx over 25 years ago. I was trying to remove a brake component off of a Lumina and the bit broke, and the wrench chipped my tooth.</span> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br>TO THIS DAY, whenever I have to reach for a torx socket, I still taste that broken tooth! And, I have not found a set of torx that are worth a darn.</span> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br>So, please help me. What set do I need?</span> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br>Thanks.</span> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br>Moose.</span>_______________________________________________<br><u><span style='color:blue'><br></span></u><a href="mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net">Shop-talk@autox.team.net</a><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Suggested annual donation $12.96<br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk">http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk</a> <a href="http://autox.team.net/archive">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/jamesf@groupwbench.org">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/jamesf@groupwbench.org</a><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br><u><span style='color:blue'><br></span></u><a href="mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net">Shop-talk@autox.team.net</a><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Suggested annual donation $12.96<br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk">http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk</a> <a href="http://autox.team.net/archive">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/jamesf@groupwbench.org">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/jamesf@groupwbench.org</a><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>