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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>My only cordless tool is an ancient Bosch 7.2v drill/driver. Got it free with ‘Tiger Tokens’ (from buying Esso fuel) around 1990 – replaced the battery about 15 years ago with one off eBay (still NiCd, but bigger than original). Still a great tool, but maybe one day I will get something more powerful…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Neil<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Shop-talk [mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Spidell<br><b>Sent:</b> 11 January 2021 16:45<br><b>To:</b> shop-talk@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] Cordless drill/screw driver<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Others have said it, but I'll reiterate: Pick a battery/voltage, then acquire the tools that go with it. If you get a cordless drill, eventually you'll want a cordless impact 'wrench'--for lug nuts if nothing else--a 'sawzall' (equivalent), a circular saw, etc. Buy a combo kit, with a battery and charger included, to start.<br><br>I went with DeWalt 20V 'XR' brushless, because of mostly positive reviews and, whether it's merit or good product placement by the marketeers (probably both), they seem to be the most popular among the mechanics, farmers, etc. on the quasi-reality TV shows (Stihl gets the nod for gas chainsaws, with Husqvarna second). I bought a cordless DeWalt hedger, slightly discounted because it was a display model, thinking "Sure, it'll do a couple bushes then quit," but we did my mom's whole (large) backyard on a single 4Ah battery. The tool that drains the battery fastest is my 4&1/2" angle grinder/sander/wirebrusher, probably because it runs more continuously and has an 'open circuit' load; I get about 20mins on a 4Ah battery.<br><br>I have a full complement of pneumatic and corded electric tools--many are Harbor Freight, for occasional use--that are mostly collecting dust these days; it's just not worth unraveling an extension cord or firing up the compressor for a quick, one-off job . One of my faves is an old Makita 9V driver/drill, which can't hold a candle for power to the DeWalt--and replacement Chinese batteries are hit-or-miss--but it keeps soldiering-on. Makita stuff is top-notch, but I haven't seen the variety of tools--doesn't mean they don't have them--that DeWalt, Milwaukee, etc. have on display.<br><br>Bob<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 1/11/2021 5:38 AM, Tim . wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>I didn't say I was going to spend 320. I said "if necessary". <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>I already have a mitre saw. In fact, I have a full shop including 80-gallon compressor, blast cabinet, parts washer, panel beating tools, and a boat load of hand tools. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>I simply want the best cordless drill/screw driver out there. My experience with ryobi is that they don't hold up to even how much I use them. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>tim<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></div><div id=divRplyFwdMsg><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> John T. Blair <a href="mailto:jblair1948@cox.net"><jblair1948@cox.net></a><br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:09 PM<br><b>To:</b> Tim . <a href="mailto:tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com"><tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com></a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] Cordless drill/screw driver</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>At 10:58 AM 1/10/2021, Tim wrote:<br><br>>I have a $100 menards rebate check and a $60 rebate visa card that are both <br>>burning a hole in my pocket. Also, I have the 15% "anything you can fit in the <br>>bag" sale bag. I figure $160 is a good starting point and am willing to at least <br>>match that 160 or more if necessary to get the best out there right now. <br><br>......<br><br>>I am not worried about a little heavier than most as I am not contractor and this <br>>won't get used every day. I am just getting tired of dragging cords. I'd like <br>>whatever I get to be the start of going all cordless (skill saw, Sawzall, etc).<br><br>Tim,<br><br>If you are not going to be using it every day, why do you want to spend a ton of<br>money on a cordless drill. You say you have $160 burning a hole in your pocket<br>and are willing to put another $160 to that. Man that $320!!!! You can get a <br>Roybi or such for say $100. Usually around Xmas which you just missed, you can<br>get a Roybi kit with a drill, saw, and another tool for less than $150. That's where<br>I'd put the first $160. Then I'd look at something else like a sliding compound <br>miter saw, or a nail gun or two, or some other tools.<br><br>Now that being said, let me say I buy a lot of Harbor Freight tools. And for the<br>occassional use they work well. I have a $25 ish oscillating saw, which I've used <br>for something over 5 yrs. It just died in the middle of a remodel in a bedroom.<br>So I bought another. Especially if you don't know what you're going to use it for.<br>I also have a cheap $20 H.F. recriprocating saw that has paid for it's self. If I'd<br>have bought a $100 to $300 version of either of these tools, I'd never had really<br>gotten my money worth out of the tool. I'm 72 and it's getting harder and harder<br>every day for me to do a lot of the things I used to do, like bend over. :) So why<br>should I pay for a tool that would last me for the next 30 years or so, if I'm only<br>going to be around for another 10 years?<br><br>Spend a little less money on a tool, and get more of them. Especially if it not your<br>bread and butter.<br><br>John<br><br><br> 2<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>