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    This is from an Amazon-native search (no 'gclid').<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/4/2021 9:28 AM, Bob Spidell wrote:<br>
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      I bought one similar to this (there's various brands/prices that
      all look pretty much the same; I'd wager they're all made in the
      same Chinese factory):<br>
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      <b><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
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      It does the job (15L versions are available). I mainly use if for
      small engines, so haven't tried the pneumatic feature yet. <br>
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      I haven't been impressed with MityVac products (one of their
      vacuum pumps failed on me after only a couple uses).<br>
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      Bob<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/4/2021 8:16 AM, Jim Franklin
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            <div class="">On Jan 4, 2021, at 8:14 AM, <a
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              <font class="" size="2" face="sans-serif">I notice that
                just about EVERY modern's car drain plug drains
                horizontally and not vertically (where the plug come
                straight down from the bottom of the oil pan.)  This
                make's oil changes SO much harder and messier.</font> <br
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        <div>I'm not usually a conpsiracy theorist, but perhaps this is
          to coerce owners to have it serviced at the dealer, where they
          suck oil out through the dipstick tube?</div>
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        <div>The engineer in me wants to say it's for protection from
          ground damage (do kids jump railroad tracks anymore?). </div>
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        <div>I'm about to buy an oil sucker outer in case anyone has one
          they recommend. The Mity-vac looks nice at at $180 it'll be
          paid for after 2 dealer oil changes :-D</div>
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        <div>jim</div>
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