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    <p><font face="Tahoma">Ah, children.  In my case it was a small
        spice can that just fit down the drain, but wouldn't go past the
        trap.  Had to take the toilet off just to find it.</font></p>
    <p><font face="Tahoma">Mike</font><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/22/2020 5:05 PM, Jack Brooks
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
            Roman",serif;color:#002060">Tim,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
            Roman",serif;color:#002060">I had that in one of my
            rentals.  I plunged, snaked as best as I could and
            eventually pulled the toilet.  I check both ends for an
            obstruction.  Eventually, I did notice something, really
            small which was not white when looking in from the bowl
            side.  It was barely visible deep in the toilet.  I could
            not get it out, but fortunately had my 10 year old son with
            small hands.  It took a lot of begging, promises that it was
            very clean and a promise of an ice cream afterwards and he
            finally reached in and snagged a small toy that was
            restricting flow.  He had no interest in keeping the toy.
            <grin><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
            Roman",serif;color:#002060">I suspect there is
            something that is blocking the flow, probably originating
            from the bowl side.  Don’t pull the toilet, but do whatever
            you can to see into the deeper parts of the toilet and you
            may find your answer. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            Roman",serif;color:#002060">Jack<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            Roman",serif;color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Shop-talk
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net"><shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net></a> <b>
                On Behalf Of </b>Tim .<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Saturday, August 22, 2020 2:39 PM<br>
              <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net">shop-talk@autox.team.net</a><br>
              <b>Subject:</b> [Shop-talk] another toilet issue<o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Hey all, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">While trying to sort
              the valve on our upstairs toilet, the toilet itself now
              doesn't fully flush. The tank bits cycle, the toilet
              fills, but it only drains slowly. It doesn't "gurgle" (for
              lack of a better term) at the end. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">This has been going
              on for over a week now so I doubt there is anything stuck.
              (no feminine products in use in our house any more so that
              is not an issue.) I've plunged the hell out of it, pushing
              down and also sucking up with plunger. I can't really get
              a snake to go very far into the trap so not much help
              there. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I remember reading
              years ago that a clogged or compromised vent can affect
              sink drainage. Is it possible that this issue is affecting
              this toilet? The sink and tub in the upstairs bathrrom are
              no affected. They both drain fine. Hell, nothing else in
              the house is affected.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">thoughts please?<br>
              thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">tim<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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