<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">If you could use some lighting on the pathways, consider a pedestal with a light <u>and</u> outlets, usually seen on docks in marinas. <div><br></div><div>- Bill Rabel</div><div> Anacortes<br><br><div dir="ltr">
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">Since when do you have to agree with people to defend them from injustice?</span></p><p class="p1"><span style="font-size: 13pt;">- Lillian Hellman</span></p></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jul 10, 2020, at 12:54 PM, Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><span>Pat said he's put an in-use cover. I'd add that the NEC requires an</span><br><span>in-use cover in this spot, and it's just smart to do it anyway. John</span><br><span>said mount it on a 4x4, that's probably easiest, unless you are going</span><br><span>for aesthetics, in which case the cast rock may be an option. You</span><br><span>could also get one of those fake rocks that goes over a well pump and</span><br><span>mount it in that somehow.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Pull new wires, make sure there's GFCI protection, and rock on!</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 3:05 PM Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com> wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Scott,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Several thoughts. There needs to be a GFCI Function on any outside circuit. It could be a GFCI breaker in a panel or a GFCI outlet.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I would get a GFCI outlet tester to see If the circuit has the GFCI functionality somewhere. It’s redundant to have a GFCI outlet & breaker on the same circuit.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Since this outlet doesn’t seem to be up to code I’d question whether the sub panel was installed to code also. If it isn’t a real sub panel, but rather just a disconnect there may be something farther back in the system that is supplying the GFCI function, either a GFCI breaker in another panel or a GFCI outlet in the garage or a bathroom.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>As for replacing the outlet/cutting the PVC, yes it can be done on the straight conduct. If it were me, I’d cut the conduit back to a straight part and then complete the conduit with a flexible conduit like what is used on an A/C unit. That way I’d the outlet gets hit or stressed it won’t break like your old one. I’d also install an in use cover on the Outlet box so that it Will still be water resistant when something is plugged into it.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I’d be happy to discuss this further with you if desired.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Peace,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Pat</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Pat Horne</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>We support Habitat for Humanity</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Jul 10, 2020, at 1:45 PM, Scott Hall <scott.hall.personal@gmail.com> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I have this:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>https://i.imgur.com/QWy2Ikn.jpg</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>https://i.imgur.com/s39fdds.jpg</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Happening at the new house. Those rocks surround the pool deck for ornamentation, I guess.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Shockingly (or not, heh), those outlets work. I'd like to re-do the whole thing to be anchored into the ground and not make me nervous every time I look at it.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The pool is about eight feet away. Maybe two feet of that rock...'garden' then six feet of concrete decking. Those outlets themselves don't appear to be GFCI, though I'd think it was a good idea. They have their own sub-panel, on the side of the house maybe forty feet away.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I'm completely okay with throwing the breaker and installing a new actual outlet, I'm soliciting advice on how to re-do that conduit (can you 'splice' conduit so I dig and then do it like I'd do PVC?) and anchor the whole thing firmly to the ground. And for specific solutions you guys can think of too--I was thinking I could pour a concrete 'rock' in the garage with a hole for a gang box and then put that where this thing is now, etc.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Thanks guys.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Scott</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Shop-talk@autox.team.net</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Suggested annual donation $12.96</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/patintexas@icloud.com</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Shop-talk@autox.team.net</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Suggested annual donation $12.96</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/fishplate@gmail.com</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span></span><br><span>Shop-talk@autox.team.net</span><br><span>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html</span><br><span>Suggested annual donation $12.96</span><br><span>Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive</span><br><span></span><br><span>Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/brabel@comcast.net</span><br><span></span><br></div></blockquote></div></body></html>