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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Just my limited experience with
      replumbing a house with PEX using the SS band clamps.  They are
      fine until you start pulling and flexing on the tubes.  They can
      leak but will seal up once left alone.  This might be a problem in
      a truck.  The issue isn't the bands the issue is the PEX.  The
      clamps are quite similar to crimped clamps used on modern cars.<br>
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      On 9/9/2019 10:39 PM, john niolon via Shop-talk wrote:<br>
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                  text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color:
                  initial"><font color="#222222">#1 is pex type
                    clamps... either single or double crimp... they work
                    for plumbing at higher pressure than radiator hose
                    and I've used them for air lines with good success..</font></span></font></font></div>
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                  initial"><font color="#222222">#2 option is using wire
                    clamps from a clamptite tool. this tool is easy to
                    fabricate (and not spend 60 bucks) and from what
                    I've seen at the car shows they do make a nice tight
                    secure clamp on the hoses... using stainless steel
                    wire .062 .</font></span></font><font face="Verdana"><span
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          <div><font size="2" face="Verdana" color="#222222"><span
                style="FONT-FAMILY: ; WHITE-SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING:
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                ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; DISPLAY: inline !important;
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                initial">so a question for the plumbers/pipefitters that
                have worked with PEX... if I use standard barbed
                fittings do you think the Pex crimp type clamps will
                hold and be leak proof... this will be in an
                non-accessible place when complete so I’m looking for
                foolproof.  </span></font></div>
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                style="FONT-FAMILY: ; WHITE-SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING:
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                ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; DISPLAY: inline !important;
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                initial">I’m looking at the Oeitker clamps since they
                seem more robust than the standard single crimp Home
                Depot variety</span></font></div>
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                  href="https://www.oetiker.com/en/Products/Clamps-and-rings/Ear-Clamps"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">oetiker link</a></span></font></div>
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          <div><font size="3" face="Calibri" color="#000000"><span
                style="FONT-FAMILY: ; WHITE-SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING:
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                ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; DISPLAY: inline !important;
                LETTER-SPACING: normal; TEXT-INDENT: 0px;
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                text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color:
                initial">the other option is the Crimptite wire clamps</span></font></div>
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                ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; DISPLAY: inline !important;
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                initial"><a
href="https://aircraft-tool.com/shop/detail.aspx?id=CLT01&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">clamp tite example</a></span></font></div>
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                ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; DISPLAY: inline !important;
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          <div><font size="3" face="Calibri" color="#000000"><span
                style="FONT-FAMILY: ; WHITE-SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING:
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                ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; DISPLAY: inline !important;
                LETTER-SPACING: normal; TEXT-INDENT: 0px;
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                initial">these will also clamp down tightly as you can
                see by the examples online. And, using SS wire should
                make it even better....</span></font></div>
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                text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color:
                initial">experience ?? opinion ?? guesses ?? all welcome</span></font></div>
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