<font size=2 face="sans-serif">These are sometimes called "swamp
coolers." They work in any environment with low humidity (deserts
and such.) we used them in Iraq alot.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">If there is humidity however, they are
nothing more than a messy fan.</font>
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<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">From:
</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com></font>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">To:
</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">"Tim ." <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com></font>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Cc:
</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Shop Talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net></font>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Date:
</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">08/22/2018 08:54 PM</font>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Subject:
</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Re: [Shop-talk]
portable air conditioners</font>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Sent by:
</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">"Shop-talk"
<shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net></font>
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<br><font size=3>Just a thought: I periodically see people talk about building
car air coolers using ice chests and fans. (AKA "Hillbilly/Redneck
Air Conditioners"). Most of the ones I have seen are pretty rudimentary
and probably don’t do much, although I have also seen more sophisticated
ones that use copper cooling coils and water pumps. I just
did a little googling and came up with this one, but am sure there are
better ones out there. </font><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NuvzWaBulw"><font size=3 color=blue><u>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NuvzWaBulw</u></font></a><font size=3>.
I have no idea whether or not they would help in an office, but it probably
can’t hurt to spend a little time researching them and maybe give one
a try.</font>
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<br><font size=3>Jim</font>
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<br><font size=3>On Aug 22, 2018, at 4:23 PM, Tim . <</font><a href=mailto:tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com><font size=3 color=blue><u>tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com</u></font></a><font size=3>>
wrote:</font>
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<br><font size=3 face="Calibri">Steve is correct. I can't modify anything.
</font>
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<br><font size=3 face="Calibri">And I pretty much knew whatever I looked
at would need to vent the warm air to somewhere. I was just hoping that
maybe something was out there that I didn't know about. </font>
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<br><font size=3 face="Calibri">Thanks for the input all. </font>
<br><font size=3 face="Calibri">tim</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="Calibri"><b>From:</b> Shop-talk <</font><a href="mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net"><font size=2 color=blue face="Calibri"><u>shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Calibri">>
on behalf of Steven Trovato <</font><a href=mailto:strovato@optonline.net><font size=2 color=blue face="Calibri"><u>strovato@optonline.net</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Calibri">><b><br>
Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 21, 2018 5:11 PM<b><br>
To:</b> 'Shop Talk'<b><br>
Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] portable air conditioners</font>
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<br><font size=3 face="Calibri">I think the mini-split solution fails the
"doesn't cost several hundred dollars" requirement. Also,
I am interpreting Tim's situation differently. I think he is saying
that this is an office that he does not own and therefore he cannot chop
holes or otherwise modify. As others have said, the heat has to go
somewhere. The least invasive modification I can imagine would be
venting above suspended ceiling tiles. This would make it hotter
up there and would still probably be frowned upon by whoever is in charge
of the place. The only other thing I can think of is using fans to
circulate air out of the office through the door, which of course means
leaving the door open. Your only real solution may be in the hands
of "the idiots" who are supposed to fix the system. Complain
that the computer equipment can't handle the heat. Everyone seems
to accept the idea that computers need to be kept cool, even if they don't
particularly care about the comfort of the people. <br>
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-Steve<br>
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What you want is called a mini-split. All it needs is a couple of
coolant lines through the wall, the compressor is mounted outside.</font><font size=3 color=blue face="Calibri"><u><br>
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From:</b> Shop-talk [</font><a href="mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net"><font size=3 color=blue face="Calibri"><u>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tim .<b><br>
Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 21, 2018 6:44 AM<b><br>
To:</b> Shop Talk<b><br>
Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] portable air conditiners<br>
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try this again.....<br>
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I did some digging and didn't really find what I am hoping for..... <br>
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When this new building I am in was constructed, the idiots didn't do the
HVAC correctly so I get basically no cold air in my office. If I am running
two computers and two monitors and have the door closed it gets close to
80 degrees. For someone who wears shorts in the winter here in southern
WI, working in temps this high is difficult. I don't know if I can physically
wait for these idiots to fix this issue. <br>
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So, is there such a thing as a portable air conditioner that doesn't need
to have access to an open exterior window? (that doesn't cost several hundred
dollars)<br>
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thanks<br>
tim</font>
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