<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Just a thought: I periodically see people talk about building car air coolers using ice chests and fans. (AKA "Hillbilly/Redneck Air Conditioners"). Most of the ones I have seen are pretty rudimentary and probably don’t do much, although I have also seen more sophisticated ones that use copper cooling coils and water pumps. I just did a little googling and came up with this one, but am sure there are better ones out there. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NuvzWaBulw" class="">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NuvzWaBulw</a>. I have no idea whether or not they would help in an office, but it probably can’t hurt to spend a little time researching them and maybe give one a try.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Jim<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 22, 2018, at 4:23 PM, Tim . <<a href="mailto:tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com" class="">tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div id="divtagdefaultwrapper" dir="ltr" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Steve is correct. I can't modify anything. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">And I pretty much knew whatever I looked at would need to vent the warm air to somewhere. I was just hoping that maybe something was out there that I didn't know about. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span title="" class="">Thanks</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>for the input all. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">tim</div><br class=""><br class=""><div style="" class=""><hr tabindex="-1" style="display: inline-block; width: 706.578125px;" class=""><div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Shop-talk <<a href="mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net" class="">shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> on behalf of Steven Trovato <<a href="mailto:strovato@optonline.net" class="">strovato@optonline.net</a>><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, August 21, 2018 5:11 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>'Shop Talk'<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Shop-talk] portable air conditioners</font><div class=""> </div></div><div class="">I think the mini-split solution fails the "doesn't cost several hundred dollars" requirement. Also, I am interpreting Tim's situation differently. I think he is saying that this is an office that he does not own and therefore he cannot chop holes or otherwise modify. As others have said, the heat has to go somewhere. The least invasive modification I can imagine would be venting above suspended ceiling tiles. This would make it hotter up there and would still probably be frowned upon by whoever is in charge of the place. The only other thing I can think of is using fans to circulate air out of the office through the door, which of course means leaving the door open. Your only real solution may be in the hands of "the idiots" who are supposed to fix the system. Complain that the computer equipment can't handle the heat. Everyone seems to accept the idea that computers need to be kept cool, even if they don't particularly care about the comfort of the people. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">-Steve<br class=""><br class="">At 01:03 PM 8/21/2018, Steve Hochschild wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="x_cite">Content-Type: multipart/alternative;<br class=""> boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C3_01D43946.F88C1150"<br class="">Content-Language: en-us<br class=""><br class="">What you want is called a mini-split. All it needs is a couple of coolant lines through the wall, the compressor is mounted outside.<br class=""><a href="https://www.homedepot.com/b/Heating-Venting-Cooling-Ductless-Mini-Splits/N-5yc1vZc4m1" id="LPlnk176574" class="OWAAutoLink" previewremoved="true">https://www.homedepot.com/b/Heating-Venting-Cooling-Ductless-Mini-Splits/N-5yc1vZc4m1</a><div id="LPBorder_GT_15349693248670.5160170128431654" style="margin-bottom: 20px; overflow: auto; width: 711px; text-indent: 0px;" class=""><table id="LPContainer_15349693248620.05825598619560224" role="presentation" cellspacing="0" style="width: 639.890625px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); position: relative; overflow: auto; padding-top: 20px; padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; border-top-width: 1px; border-top-style: dotted; border-top-color: rgb(200, 200, 200); border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(200, 200, 200);" class=""><tbody class=""><tr valign="top" style="border-spacing: 0px;" class=""><td id="TextCell_15349693248640.3746417611954922" colspan="2" style="vertical-align: top; position: relative; padding: 0px; display: table-cell;" class=""><div id="LPRemovePreviewContainer_15349693248640.9173791895789911" class=""></div><div id="LPTitle_15349693248640.2697879832682568" style="top: 0px; color: rgb(0, 120, 215); font-weight: 400; font-size: 21px; font-family: wf_segoe-ui_light, "Segoe UI Light", "Segoe WP Light", "Segoe UI", "Segoe WP", Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: 21px;" class=""><a id="LPUrlAnchor_15349693248650.004620106172718685" href="https://www.homedepot.com/b/Heating-Venting-Cooling-Ductless-Mini-Splits/N-5yc1vZc4m1" target="_blank" style="text-decoration: none;" class="">Ductless Mini Splits - Heating, Venting & Cooling - The ...</a></div><div id="LPMetadata_15349693248650.7378883359015669" style="margin: 10px 0px 16px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-weight: 400; font-family: wf_segoe-ui_normal, "Segoe UI", "Segoe WP", Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 14px;" class=""><a href="http://www.homedepot.com/" class="">www.homedepot.com</a></div><div id="LPDescription_15349693248670.31884157429511695" style="display: block; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-weight: 400; font-family: wf_segoe-ui_normal, "Segoe UI", "Segoe WP", Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; max-height: 100px; overflow: hidden;" class="">Shop our selection of Ductless Mini Splits in the Heating, Venting & Cooling Department at The Home Depot.</div></td></tr></tbody></table></div><br class=""><br class=""> <br class=""> <br class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Shop-talk [<a href="mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net" id="LPlnk778753" class="OWAAutoLink" previewremoved="true"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Tim .<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, August 21, 2018 6:44 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Shop Talk<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Shop-talk] portable air conditiners<br class=""> <br class=""><br class="">try this again.....<br class=""> <br class=""> <br class="">I did some digging and didn't really find what I am hoping for.....<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""> <br class="">When this new building I am in was constructed, the idiots didn't do the HVAC correctly so I get basically no cold air in my office. If I am running two computers and two monitors and have the door closed it gets close to 80 degrees. For someone who wears shorts in the winter here in southern WI, working in temps this high is difficult. I don't know if I can physically wait for these idiots to fix this issue.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""> <br class="">So, is there such a thing as a portable air conditioner that doesn't need to have access to an open exterior window? 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