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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>Thanks for all the suggestions!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>My main goal was not wanting to destroy the very nice clear fir subfloor by drilling lots of holes into it. But I guess that’s pretty much just my psychosis – it’s been carpeted since 1951 when the house was gutted, moved, and redesigned inside. There are loads of nail holes from the tackles strip around the walls besides. Nobody’s likely to want to use that as a finished floor, and with values here they’d want to use oak or something nicer than fir flooring. And as I roll the carpet back more than the first 3 feet I see that it’s not really that wonderful anyway.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>I’d still love to find a stud finder that works on something thicker than ½” drywall, or that doesn’t depend on steel fasteners near the surface. Seems like with the sort of construction that permits those to work, banging your fist on the wall or using a magnet would be perfectly adequate.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>I can certainly drill lots of holes (the way I find studs in our plaster and rock lath walls), and I’ll probably use my USB borescope to check out the interior of the joist spaces. Pat’s suggestion to bang with a hammer to find the hollow areas may help but form that I’m finding apparent spaces that are far wider than I’d expect. Gotta just drill and look.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>Thanks to all !!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>Karl<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Pat Horne [mailto:patintexas@icloud.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 4, 2017 9:45 AM<br><b>To:</b> rande@pobox.com<br><b>Cc:</b> Karl Vacek; ShopTalk<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] Stud finder - squeaky floor<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>That kit will help after you find the squeaky spot but won't he<br><br>Pat Horne find it. My understanding is that it is sold as being able to fix the squeak without removing carpet. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal>Peace, <o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal>Pat<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>We support Caldwell County Habitat for Humanity<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On May 3, 2017, at 7:50 PM, RandE <<a href="mailto:rande90@gmail.com">rande90@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Would something like this work?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Squeeeek No More floor repair kit<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0006IK8YE/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1POTHEPZSLVR0&coliid=I4DNXWG0QHQ3X&psc=1">https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0006IK8YE/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1POTHEPZSLVR0&coliid=I4DNXWG0QHQ3X&psc=1</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Karl Vacek <<a href="mailto:stearman809@gmail.com" target="_blank">stearman809@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Squeaky floors upstairs – not terrible for an 1871 house (moved, gutted, and rebuilt in 1951), but still it’s the time to address them before we replace the carpet.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I’m trying to locate floor joists beneath what I assume is a ¾” subfloor and ¾” of T&G fir flooring on top of that. I really hate to rip up the nice fir flooring to look, though it’s going to have carpet again so it’s not out of the question. All rock lath and plaster ceilings (about 1” total) below.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>With the age of the house, stud and joist spacing is very unpredictable. It’s not as if I can find one and measure to find the next one with any certainty.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I’ve tried stud finders many times before with our construction, and nothing has worked. For walls I usually just drill tiny holes till I hit wood. I tried a neighbor’s garden-variety Strait-Line electronic stud finder and it’s not capable.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Are there any really strong stud finders on the market today?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Or – any other ideas to quiet the floor? Only a few spots actually squeak – it’s not all over. I thought about injecting urethane glue (it expands with moisture) if I can find the joists, and then a few screws. But where are the joists?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br><br><a href="mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net">Shop-talk@autox.team.net</a><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Suggested annual donation $12.96<br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br>Forums: <a href="http://www.team.net/forums" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/forums</a><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/rande@pobox.com" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/rande@pobox.com</a><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>_______________________________________________<br><br><a href="mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net">Shop-talk@autox.team.net</a><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Suggested annual donation $12.96<br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/archive">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br>Forums: <a href="http://www.team.net/forums">http://www.team.net/forums</a><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/patintexas@icloud.com">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/patintexas@icloud.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></body></html>