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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Actually, now that I recall, one of the ridge vent ends I saw them entering/exiting from was on the north end of my house. I suppose they will use any entrance they can to a nice cozy attic!</p><p class=MsoNormal>BTW, droppings will usually have sparkles from the insect wings.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com">Tim .</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, April 6, 2016 1:24 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:mg_garage@comcast.net">Gordie Bird</a>; <a href="mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net">Shop-talk@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Shop-talk] What animal is in my ceiling? bat tanget...</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Well, WI have something weird going on...ha<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>The neighbor to the east of us had them coming out at least the north side, the neighbor on the west on at least his east side, and I've seen them come out three side of my place. too funny. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><img border=0 width=694 height=2 style='width:7.2291in;height:.0208in' id="_x0000_i1027" src="cid:image003.png@01D19009.19E0BFC0"></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=divRplyFwdMsg><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='color:black'> Gordie Bird <mg_garage@comcast.net><br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 6, 2016 9:53 AM<br><b>To:</b> Tim .; Shop-talk@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Shop-talk] What animal is in my ceiling?</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Generally you will find bats entering and leaving in the east, south, or southeast of the structure. Any place I saw them entering my house was pretty protected, like a soffit, or the end of a ridge vent that was not sealed properly. Droppings can be noticed on inside or outside.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>I got most of my education (and the bat houses that I built) from the Bat Conservancy… <a href="http://www.batcon.org/" id=LPlnk977100>http://www.batcon.org/</a>, as well as the ‘bat man’ that I hired for the exclusion (after I tried unsuccessfully).<o:p></o:p></span></p><div style='margin-bottom:15.0pt;overflow:auto' id="LPBorder_GT_14599632878110.955606597700893"><table class=MsoNormalTable border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width="90%" style='width:90.0%;background:white;border-top:dotted #C8C8C8 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:dotted #C8C8C8 1.0pt;border-right:none'><tr><td width=250 valign=top style='width:187.5pt;border:none;padding:15.0pt 15.0pt 15.0pt .75pt'><div style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;display:table' id="LPImageContainer_14599632878080.2080272010554589"><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:15.0pt;background:white'><a href="http://www.batcon.org/" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=250 height=98 style='width:2.6041in;height:1.0208in' id="_x0000_i1026" src="http://www.batcon.org/images/logo-big.png" alt="http://www.batcon.org/images/logo-big.png"></span></a><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></td><td valign=top style='border:none;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;display:table-cell' id="TextCell_14599632878090.45618343036622777"><div id="LPTitle_14599632878090.8473625154159132"><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:15.0pt;mso-line-height-alt:15.75pt'><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Light",sans-serif;color:#0078D7'><a href="http://www.batcon.org/" target="_blank">Bat Conservation International - BCI</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-top:7.5pt;margin-bottom:12.0pt' id="LPMetadata_14599632878100.30921346044306275"><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:15.0pt;line-height:10.5pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#666666'>www.batcon.org<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="LPDescription_14599632878100.7705697643174771"><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:15.0pt;line-height:15.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#666666'>Austin-based group whose mission is to protect and restore bats and their habitats worldwide. Includes information about education, conservation efforts, articles ...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></td></tr></table></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>They are good to have around, just not in the attic!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Gordie<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="mailto:tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com">Tim .</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, April 6, 2016 9:11 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net">Shop-talk@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Shop-talk] What animal is in my ceiling?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>The timing leans towards bats coming and leaving. If you have enough, as one our neighbors did, you can definitely hear them going in and out. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>"</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Droppings will be at the entry points"...I sure hope this isn't accurate. I have bats in my attic and there are droppings in many places.....places where, if they were getting in and out, water would be as well. </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>tim</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><img border=0 width=694 height=2 style='width:7.2291in;height:.0208in' id="Horizontal_x0020_Line_x0020_1" src="cid:image002.png@01D18FF2.9309B6C0" alt="cid:image002.png@01D18FF2.9309B6C0"></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=divRplyFwdMsg><p style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Gordie Bird <mg_garage@comcast.net><br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 5, 2016 7:30 PM<br><b>To:</b> Jim Franklin; Shop-talk@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] What animal is in my ceiling?</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Sounds like bats to me. Only need a gap the size of a dime to get in. Droppings will be at the entry points. If it is warm where you are at, you may be able to see them come or go after dusk or just before dawn. </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Since they are protected, you must exclude them rather than kill them.</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Took nearly 2 yrs to get them out of my attic. </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Good luck,</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Gordie</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="mailto:jamesf@groupwbench.org">Jim Franklin</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, April 5, 2016 6:42 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net">Shop-talk@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject: </b>[Shop-talk] What animal is in my ceiling?</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>I've searched the Internet, but all answers seem to require that I actually see evidence, and I don't. It's in the ceiling between floors. No droppings anywhere. I hear little feet like mice skittering across the ceiling, and a great big ruckus like two squirrels chasing each other, moving quickly in the 3/4" space created by the strapping between joists and sheetrock. </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>They are loudly active mostly at night, almost always at 4:30am. Often in the evenings, but sometimes during the day too. However, I haven't heard them in 2 days. Sometimes this happens.</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>I cannot find any entry points, so I can't observe how they are getting in. A lot of the roof trim is rotted at the ends, but there is no evidence of anything in the attic, and I never hear anything in the walls. </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>In the past, any mice have eventually made it to the basement traps, but not this time. </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>thanks,</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>jim</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>_______________________________________________</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Shop-talk@autox.team.net</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Suggested annual donation $12.96</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mg_garage@comcast.net</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>