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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>Thanks Dave, Randall and Michael. I have some investigating to do. I know the previous owner added the power cord right before I picked it up, so there may be an error in wiring or omission here. I now have some additional data and a few things too look at.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>Thanks again,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>Jack<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Shop-talk [mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jack Brooks<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 20, 2016 9:59 PM<br><b>To:</b> Shop-talk@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> [Shop-talk] Single Phase motors<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Background:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>My son and I built a tumbler using a single phase motor from a furnace. It has a starting capacitor and will start the tumbler with a fully loaded 20 pound barrel in the same direction every time it starts. What I didn’t realize at the time we build this heavy duty tumbler was that that motor didn’t have an internal fan. In the furnace the fan motor is in airflow and doesn’t need an internal cooling fan. I’ve always had to put a fan on it whenever it ran to keep the motor cool. The tumbler runs for weeks or months at a time and I am tired of the breeze that the fan creates in my workshop. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Issue/question:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I just came into another motor that has an internal fan (a lot less localized wind) but it does not use a starting capacitor. This one does not always start on its own and will start in either direction. I am 99% sure this is normal for a non-capacitor start motor. My wife will occasional turn the tumbler off when she is expecting clients into her home office, as while it’s not intrusive, you can hear the rocks tumbling it in the background in her office. Is it possible to retrofit a capacitor so it’ll start on its own consistently and always in the same direction? That way when she shuts it down and restarts it, it’ll always start and turn in the correct direction. Yes, typically direction is not an issue, but we tumble some stuff with custom built barrels where it is important. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>It is my understanding that the phasing of the capacitor to the motor drives the motor’s direction. I can work with it starting on either direction (flip the barrel end for end reversing the direction), but it needs to be consistent. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The motor in question is a “Westinghouse S# 316P 824”. I can provide more motor details if it’s beneficial. I am concerned that the motor cannot accept a capacitor as it is probably not equipped to switch from start to run mode.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks in advance,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Jack, mechanical, not electrical, enginerd<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>