From markmiller at threeboysfarm.com Sun Feb 1 09:22:35 2026 From: markmiller at threeboysfarm.com (Mark Miller) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2026 08:22:35 -0800 Subject: [Shop-talk] pipe repair? (Mark Bradakis) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <181031b7-9e05-47cf-a483-2babd8490728@threeboysfarm.com> I haven't used that but if the consensus is to avoid it I'd recommend something like this: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Southland-1-2-in-x-1-2-in-Galvanized-Iron-Compression-Coupling-Long-Pattern-160-003HP/304800089 Regards, Mark Miller 707-490-5834 markmiller at threeboysfarm.com > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2026 21:11:47 -0700 > From: Mark Bradakis > To: shop-talk at autox.team.net > Subject: [Shop-talk] JB Weld Fiberweld pipe repair? > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > Anyone have any experience with this stuff? Have a small leak in a > galvanized 1/2" supply pipe, looks like this would do nicely for a repair. > > mjb. > From gasket.works at gte.net Sun Feb 1 10:17:48 2026 From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy Dunst) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2026 17:17:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Shop-talk] pipe repair? (Mark Bradakis) In-Reply-To: <181031b7-9e05-47cf-a483-2babd8490728@threeboysfarm.com> References: <181031b7-9e05-47cf-a483-2babd8490728@threeboysfarm.com> Message-ID: <352511551.3923795.1769966268304@mail.yahoo.com> I have used these galvanized couplings. They are a life saver. ?Last forever? Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Sunday, February 1, 2026, 9:15 AM, Mark Miller wrote: I haven't used that but if the consensus is to avoid it I'd recommend something like this: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Southland-1-2-in-x-1-2-in-Galvanized-Iron-Compression-Coupling-Long-Pattern-160-003HP/304800089 Regards, Mark Miller? 707-490-5834 markmiller at threeboysfarm.com > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2026 21:11:47 -0700 > From: Mark Bradakis > To: shop-talk at autox.team.net > Subject: [Shop-talk] JB Weld Fiberweld pipe repair? > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > Anyone have any experience with this stuff?? Have a small leak in a > galvanized 1/2" supply pipe, looks like this would do nicely for a repair. > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/gasket.works at gte.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronnie.day at gmail.com Sun Feb 1 12:21:06 2026 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2026 13:21:06 -0600 Subject: [Shop-talk] pipe repair? (Mark Bradakis) In-Reply-To: <352511551.3923795.1769966268304@mail.yahoo.com> References: <181031b7-9e05-47cf-a483-2babd8490728@threeboysfarm.com> <352511551.3923795.1769966268304@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I would think that there?s little to no pressure in the pipe the wrap might work, at least short term in mild temperatures. That said, I think the sleeve that Mark Miller suggests is a much better solution. We dealing with the results of a busted 2 inch PVC ball valve coming out of one the tanks on our rainwater collection system. Replacing it with a brass valve and adding some drains to make sure we get as much water out of the supply pipes as possible, hoping to avoid a repeat. Even with the PVC valve turned off there was enough water to blow out the PVC valve housing with the extended period of below 20 degree temperatures here the last week near College Station. On Sun, Feb 1, 2026 at 11:39?AM Mordy Dunst wrote: > I have used these galvanized couplings. They are a life saver. Last > forever > > > Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS > > > On Sunday, February 1, 2026, 9:15 AM, Mark Miller < > markmiller at threeboysfarm.com> wrote: > > I haven't used that but if the consensus is to avoid it I'd recommend > something like this: > > https://www.homedepot.com/p/Southland-1-2-in-x-1-2-in-Galvanized-Iron-Compression-Coupling-Long-Pattern-160-003HP/304800089 > > Regards, > > Mark Miller 707-490-5834 > markmiller at threeboysfarm.com > > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2026 21:11:47 -0700 > > From: Mark Bradakis > > To: shop-talk at autox.team.net > > Subject: [Shop-talk] JB Weld Fiberweld pipe repair? > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > > > Anyone have any experience with this stuff? Have a small leak in a > > galvanized 1/2" supply pipe, looks like this would do nicely for a > repair. > > > > mjb. > > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/gasket.works at gte.net > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/ronnie.day at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dirtbeard at gmail.com Sun Feb 1 13:17:32 2026 From: dirtbeard at gmail.com (Douglas Shook) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2026 12:17:32 -0800 Subject: [Shop-talk] pipe repair? (Mark Bradakis) In-Reply-To: <352511551.3923795.1769966268304@mail.yahoo.com> References: <181031b7-9e05-47cf-a483-2babd8490728@threeboysfarm.com> <352511551.3923795.1769966268304@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: So these couplings will seal on the unthreaded OD of a typical galvanized pipe? That is pretty impressive. On Sun, Feb 1, 2026 at 9:32?AM Mordy Dunst wrote: > I have used these galvanized couplings. They are a life saver. Last > forever > > > Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS > > > On Sunday, February 1, 2026, 9:15 AM, Mark Miller < > markmiller at threeboysfarm.com> wrote: > > I haven't used that but if the consensus is to avoid it I'd recommend > something like this: > > https://www.homedepot.com/p/Southland-1-2-in-x-1-2-in-Galvanized-Iron-Compression-Coupling-Long-Pattern-160-003HP/304800089 > > Regards, > > Mark Miller 707-490-5834 > markmiller at threeboysfarm.com > > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2026 21:11:47 -0700 > > From: Mark Bradakis > > To: shop-talk at autox.team.net > > Subject: [Shop-talk] JB Weld Fiberweld pipe repair? > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > > > Anyone have any experience with this stuff? Have a small leak in a > > galvanized 1/2" supply pipe, looks like this would do nicely for a > repair. > > > > mjb. > > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/gasket.works at gte.net > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/dirtbeard at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dmscheidt at gmail.com Sun Feb 1 14:16:19 2026 From: dmscheidt at gmail.com (David Scheidt) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2026 15:16:19 -0600 Subject: [Shop-talk] JB Weld Fiberweld pipe repair? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > On Jan 31, 2026, at 22:22, Mark Bradakis wrote: > > ?Anyone have any experience with this stuff? Have a small leak in a galvanized 1/2" supply pipe, looks like this would do nicely for a repair. I?ve never used it, but I?ve seen it or something like it on pipes. They weren?t leaking, I assume they were before the patch. My experience with galvanized pipe is that if it has one hole in it, it is about to have a lot of holes. It?s better to replace the whole stick of pipe. Better still to replace all the galvanized, if possible. > > mjb. > <78102079.avif> > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/dmscheidt at gmail.com > From mark at bradakis.com Sun Feb 1 18:16:45 2026 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2026 18:16:45 -0700 Subject: [Shop-talk] JB Weld Fiberweld pipe repair? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well I ran to Lowes and got the JB Weld kit early this morning. Once my wife left for church I applied it, trying to follow the instructions as best I could. Clearance was a bit tight, was tough to get the sticky fiberglass around the epoxy covered pipe nice and tight. Ugly job. Let it cure for the recommended hour, turned the water back on, worked just fine. For about 5 hours. Dripping again. Looks like I will try the compression couplings next. Will need two of them. Will have to cut out about 5" of the old pipe with the failed repair, splice in a piece of pipe with a coupler on each end. That will be a task for tomorrow. So it goes. mjb. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20260201_181335.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 471273 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dmscheidt at gmail.com Sun Feb 1 20:17:52 2026 From: dmscheidt at gmail.com (David Scheidt) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2026 21:17:52 -0600 Subject: [Shop-talk] JB Weld Fiberweld pipe repair? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > On Feb 1, 2026, at 21:00, Mark Bradakis wrote: > > ?Well I ran to Lowes and got the JB Weld kit early this morning. Once my wife left for church I applied it, trying to follow the instructions as best I could. Clearance was a bit tight, was tough to get the sticky fiberglass around the epoxy covered pipe nice and tight. Ugly job. Let it cure for the recommended hour, turned the water back on, worked just fine. > > For about 5 hours. Dripping again. Looks like I will try the compression couplings next. Will need two of them. Will have to cut out about 5" of the old pipe with the failed repair, splice in a piece of pipe with a coupler on each end. That will be a task for tomorrow. > > So it goes. > There?s a similar compression fitting that would allow transition to pex. Cut out as much of the galvanized as you can. It?s going to leak eventually. From mark at bradakis.com Sun Feb 1 22:29:42 2026 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2026 22:29:42 -0700 Subject: [Shop-talk] JB Weld Fiberweld pipe repair? In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: <59d3c1e8-9f39-41c8-ba21-58ac18cfc478@bradakis.com> On 2/1/26 8:17 PM, David Scheidt wrote: > > There?s a similar compression fitting that would allow transition to pex. Cut out as much of the galvanized as you can. It?s going to leak eventually. > Yes, the whole house needs a repipe, but I was hoping that wouldn't happen for another 5 years or so. Anyway, tomorrow morning I will head down to England Plumbing, a local shop. The dog who always hung out down there, may he rest in peace, probably knew more about plumbing than most big box store employees. They should be able to steer me in the right direction. mjb. From jniolon at att.net Thu Feb 5 15:03:17 2026 From: jniolon at att.net (john niolon) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2026 16:03:17 -0600 Subject: [Shop-talk] computer/printer help References: <1Un6GwxjVb.14PBwH6vaqA.ref@johns-desktop> Message-ID: <1Un6GwxjVb.14PBwH6vaqA@johns-desktop> Need some help from the brain trust here... I've hit a wall Dell desktop computer with Brother mfc-l2717dw laser printer Will print perfectly from word?excel? anything from desktop Will not print from internet I?ve done the following Powered everything including router off and back on in sequence Pc finds printer on wifi ? both pc and printer are on same 2.4 node/network Reloaded software/firmware/reset printer to factory default and set up everything again Router recognizes printer and pc?.. no error messages or codes shown when trying to do internet print Just a generic message that says ?something went wrong when you tried to print?check your printer. Printer will print self test internally and from pc Spent two hours with Rahish and his family in the background trying all of the above again till he dumped me on the router provider (netgear orbi mesh) Orbi warranty expired and they wanted 99 bucks to trouble shoot it?. I?m looking for solutions, experiences and even wild ass guesses at this point. 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I've hit a wall Dell desktop computer with Brother mfc-l2717dw laser printer Will print perfectly from word?excel? anything from desktop Will not print from internet I?ve done the following Powered everything including router off and back on in sequence Pc finds printer on wifi ? both pc and printer are on same 2.4 node/network Reloaded software/firmware/reset printer to factory default and set up everything again Router recognizes printer and pc?.. no error messages or codes shown when trying to do internet print Just a generic message that says ?something went wrong when you tried to print?check your printer. Printer will print self test internally and from pc Spent two hours with Rahish and his family in the background trying all of the above again till he dumped me on the router provider (netgear orbi mesh) Orbi warranty expired and they wanted 99 bucks to trouble shoot it?. I?m looking for solutions, experiences and even wild ass guesses at this point. Thanks john _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/patintexas at icloud.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronnie.day at gmail.com Thu Feb 5 18:58:46 2026 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2026 19:58:46 -0600 Subject: [Shop-talk] computer/printer help In-Reply-To: <1Un6GwxjVb.14PBwH6vaqA@johns-desktop> References: <1Un6GwxjVb.14PBwH6vaqA.ref@johns-desktop> <1Un6GwxjVb.14PBwH6vaqA@johns-desktop> Message-ID: Can you print a web page wirelessly from another device? Any way you can run an ethernet cable from the computer directly to the printer? I had a problem with a Brother 2170. Ended up calling Brother T/S and they walked me through a hard reset, which finally worked. Does that MFC have a USB port? You might try that,too, if it's available. On Thu, Feb 5, 2026 at 7:15?PM john niolon wrote: > Need some help from the brain trust here... I've hit a wall > > > Dell desktop computer with Brother mfc-l2717dw laser printer > > Will print perfectly from word?excel? anything from desktop > > Will not print from internet > > I?ve done the following > > Powered everything including router off and back on in sequence > > Pc finds printer on wifi ? both pc and printer are on same 2.4 > node/network > > Reloaded software/firmware/reset printer to factory default and set up > everything again > > Router recognizes printer and pc?.. no error messages or codes shown when > trying to do internet print > > Just a generic message that says ?something went wrong when you tried to > print?check your printer. > > Printer will print self test internally and from pc > > > > Spent two hours with Rahish and his family in the background trying all of > the above again till he dumped me on the router provider (netgear orbi mesh) > Orbi warranty expired and they wanted 99 bucks to trouble shoot it?. > > > > I?m looking for solutions, experiences and even wild ass guesses at this > point. > > > > Thanks > > john > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/ronnie.day at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dirtbeard at live.com Thu Feb 5 20:31:46 2026 From: dirtbeard at live.com (Old Dirtbeard) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2026 03:31:46 +0000 Subject: [Shop-talk] computer/printer help In-Reply-To: References: <1Un6GwxjVb.14PBwH6vaqA.ref@johns-desktop> <1Un6GwxjVb.14PBwH6vaqA@johns-desktop> Message-ID: This is not an elegant solution, but when you are ready to print from the Internet, select "print to PDF" as the printer selection. If that works, you could they just reset the printer to your normal printer and then print the local PDF file. Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: Shop-talk on behalf of Ronnie Day Sent: Thursday, February 5, 2026 5:58:46 PM To: john niolon Cc: shop-talk Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] computer/printer help Can you print a web page wirelessly from another device? Any way you can run an ethernet cable from the computer directly to the printer? I had a problem with a Brother 2170. Ended up calling Brother T/S and they walked me through a hard reset, which finally worked. Does that MFC have a USB port? You might try that,too, if it's available. On Thu, Feb 5, 2026 at 7:15?PM john niolon > wrote: Need some help from the brain trust here... I've hit a wall Dell desktop computer with Brother mfc-l2717dw laser printer Will print perfectly from word?excel? anything from desktop Will not print from internet I?ve done the following Powered everything including router off and back on in sequence Pc finds printer on wifi ? both pc and printer are on same 2.4 node/network Reloaded software/firmware/reset printer to factory default and set up everything again Router recognizes printer and pc?.. no error messages or codes shown when trying to do internet print Just a generic message that says ?something went wrong when you tried to print?check your printer. Printer will print self test internally and from pc Spent two hours with Rahish and his family in the background trying all of the above again till he dumped me on the router provider (netgear orbi mesh) Orbi warranty expired and they wanted 99 bucks to trouble shoot it?. I?m looking for solutions, experiences and even wild ass guesses at this point. Thanks john _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/ronnie.day at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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GetOutlook for AndroidFrom: Shop-talk on behalf of Ronnie Day Sent: Thursday, February 5, 2026 5:58:46 PM To: john niolon Cc: shop-talk Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] computer/printer help? Can you print a web page wirelessly from another device? Any way you can run an ethernet cable from the computer directly to the printer? I had a problem with a Brother 2170. Ended up calling Brother T/S and they walked me through a hard reset, which finally worked. Does that MFC have a USB port? You might try that,too, if it's available. On Thu, Feb 5, 2026 at 7:15?PM john niolon wrote: Need some help from the brain trust here... I've hit a wall? Dell desktop computer with Brother mfc-l2717dw laser printer Will print perfectly from word?excel? anything from desktop Will not print from internet I?ve done the following Powered everything including router off and back on in sequence Pc finds printer on wifi ? both pc and printer are on same? 2.4 node/network Reloaded software/firmware/reset printer to factory default and set up everything again Router recognizes printer and pc?.. no error messages or codes shown when trying to do internet print Just a generic message that says ?something went wrong when you tried to print?check your printer. Printer will print self test internally and from pc ? Spent two hours with Rahish and his family in the background trying all of the above again till he dumped me on the router provider (netgear orbi mesh)?Orbi warranty expired and they wanted 99 bucks to trouble shoot it?. ? I?m looking for solutions, experiences and even wild ass guesses at this point. ? 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Changed that and the internet is now mine to print Don't know how it got checked...probably something I fat fingered (or fat mouse clicked) and didn't realize it... thanks for all the suggestions and help John _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/patintexas at icloud.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: