From fishplate at gmail.com Sun Apr 7 10:56:37 2024 From: fishplate at gmail.com (Jeff Scarbrough) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2024 12:56:37 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] Tire Gauges Message-ID: So, I have three tire gauges: Accutire electronic, Jayco mechanical, and Milton Inflator hose with gauge. All three report consistently, and all three are 3-4 psi different - low to high in the above order. Is there a simple way to check accuracy? Jeff Corrosion Acres, Ga. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bjzwissler at gmail.com Sun Apr 7 13:37:39 2024 From: bjzwissler at gmail.com (Benjamin Zwissler) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2024 15:37:39 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] Tire Gauges In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I calibrate my Milton (which has consistently read high) to my wife's tpms value. Partly because I assume the car is right and partly because I don't like it when she's telling me a week later that she's getting low pressure lights again. I don't know how to create an inexpensive standard for calibration. The Milton is the most expensive gauge I have and has been the least accurate. I looked it up on line and found lots of similar complaints about its inaccuracy. Any ideas on creating a low cost pressure standard for calibration? Ben On Sun, Apr 7, 2024, 1:49?PM Jeff Scarbrough wrote: > So, I have three tire gauges: Accutire electronic, Jayco mechanical, and > Milton Inflator hose with gauge. All three report consistently, and all > three are 3-4 psi different - low to high in the above order. > > Is there a simple way to check accuracy? > > Jeff > Corrosion Acres, Ga. > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/bjzwissler at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fishplate at gmail.com Sun Apr 7 14:13:10 2024 From: fishplate at gmail.com (Jeff Scarbrough) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2024 16:13:10 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] Tire Gauges In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: I know that one foot of water column equals 0.433 psi. So about 70 feet of 2" pipe attached to the side of a tall building with a thin diaphragm over a chamber with a Schrader valve should get you close. Might need to make a manometer out of it, so you'll need more pipe. It's low cost, but not very practical. I did have a set of weights and an oil reservoir for calibrating liquid pressure, but liquids are not (for our purposes) compressible and air is. So I don't know how accurate that might be. If you had some mercury, a 5 foot column should do the trick. Don't tell the EPD, though. On Sun, Apr 7, 2024, 15:37 Benjamin Zwissler wrote: > I calibrate my Milton (which has consistently read high) to my wife's tpms > value. Partly because I assume the car is right and partly because I > don't like it when she's telling me a week later that she's getting low > pressure lights again. > > I don't know how to create an inexpensive standard for calibration. The > Milton is the most expensive gauge I have and has been the least accurate. > I looked it up on line and found lots of similar complaints about its > inaccuracy. > > Any ideas on creating a low cost pressure standard for calibration? > > Ben > > > > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2024, 1:49?PM Jeff Scarbrough wrote: > >> So, I have three tire gauges: Accutire electronic, Jayco mechanical, and >> Milton Inflator hose with gauge. All three report consistently, and all >> three are 3-4 psi different - low to high in the above order. >> >> Is there a simple way to check accuracy? >> >> Jeff >> Corrosion Acres, Ga. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Shop-talk at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.96 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/bjzwissler at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com Thu Apr 25 10:57:41 2024 From: tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com (Tim .) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2024 16:57:41 +0000 Subject: [Shop-talk] car repair at home (in my Shop) Message-ID: The front bumper on my wife's 2016 Lexus recently got damaged. No clue how as there are no signs of it getting hit. I was able to reattach this broken bit using the original mounting clip but it obviously didn't hold. Any thoughts on what I can use to try to fix this broken mount point so the OEM clip will hold it? Thanks tim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20240424_151036.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 226500 bytes Desc: 20240424_151036.jpg URL: From jdinnis at gmail.com Thu Apr 25 11:54:08 2024 From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2024 12:54:08 -0500 Subject: [Shop-talk] car repair at home (in my Shop) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Interesting, we had the exact same issue on my wife's Subaru Legacy. In her case it was caused by trying to turn too sharply while backing out of the garage and catching the bumper cover on the side of the garage door frame. Can happen any time you are backing out and catch something on that front bumper cover just ahead of the wheel. We fixed hers by epoxying a piece of wire to the broken part of the clip as a reinforcement. It still pops out from time to time, so this is maybe not the best method, but it seems to go for several months at a time before I have to pop it back in. Not perfect but good enough for a daily. On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 12:28?PM Tim . wrote: > The front bumper on my wife's 2016 Lexus recently got damaged. No clue how > as there are no signs of it getting hit. I was able to reattach this broken > bit using the original mounting clip but it obviously didn't hold. > > Any thoughts on what I can use to try to fix this broken mount point so > the OEM clip will hold it? > > Thanks > tim > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/jdinnis at gmail.com > > -- ================================= = Never offend people with style when you = = can offend with substance --- Sam Brown = ================================= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shannahquilts at gmail.com Thu Apr 25 12:49:25 2024 From: shannahquilts at gmail.com (Shannah Miller) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2024 11:49:25 -0700 Subject: [Shop-talk] car repair at home (in my Shop) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have had good luck with E6000 gluing hard to glue surfaces. Maybe try E6000 along with the supporting wire idea? Shannah On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 10:26?AM Tim . wrote: > The front bumper on my wife's 2016 Lexus recently got damaged. No clue how > as there are no signs of it getting hit. I was able to reattach this broken > bit using the original mounting clip but it obviously didn't hold. > > Any thoughts on what I can use to try to fix this broken mount point so > the OEM clip will hold it? > > Thanks > tim > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/shannahquilts at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I was able to reattach this broken bit using the original mounting clip but it obviously didn't hold. >> >> Any thoughts on what I can use to try to fix this broken mount point so the OEM clip will hold it? >> >> Thanks >> tim >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Shop-talk at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.96 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/shannahquilts at gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/jamesf at groupwbench.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I was able to reattach this broken bit using the original mounting clip but it obviously didn't hold. Any thoughts on what I can use to try to fix this broken mount point so the OEM clip will hold it? Thanks tim _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net (mailto:Shop-talk at autox.team.net) Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive (http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk) Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/shannahquilts at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com Fri Apr 26 08:36:48 2024 From: tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com (Tim .) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 14:36:48 +0000 Subject: [Shop-talk] car repair at home (in my Shop) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for the replies. I had the same thought of an epoxy and reinforcement. I just wasn't sure what product to use. I will hopefully be able to find this E6000 today. thanks again all!! tim ________________________________ From: Shop-talk on behalf of Tim . Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2024 11:57 AM To: Shop Talk Subject: [Shop-talk] car repair at home (in my Shop) The front bumper on my wife's 2016 Lexus recently got damaged. No clue how as there are no signs of it getting hit. I was able to reattach this broken bit using the original mounting clip but it obviously didn't hold. Any thoughts on what I can use to try to fix this broken mount point so the OEM clip will hold it? Thanks tim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alfuller194 at gmail.com Fri Apr 26 11:26:58 2024 From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (alfuller194 at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 10:26:58 -0700 Subject: [Shop-talk] Tire Gauges In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: <075301da97fe$f1882610$d4987230$@gmail.com> Sorry for the late reply ? I have no idea where several weeks? worth of messages have been hanging out! It might be worth checking with someone who already has their gauges calibrated and comparing readings. I would hope the new car dealers service department would actually calibrate gauges used on customer cars, but would ask to be sure. It also occurs to me that last time I moved the movers damaged my air compressor, and the insurance company has a local company that repairs them. I wonder if they have calibrated gauges, and if one could compare readings with theirs? ----------------------------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: Shop-talk On Behalf Of Jeff Scarbrough Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2024 1:13 PM To: Benjamin Zwissler Cc: Shop-talk at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Tire Gauges I know that one foot of water column equals 0.433 psi. So about 70 feet of 2" pipe attached to the side of a tall building with a thin diaphragm over a chamber with a Schrader valve should get you close. Might need to make a manometer out of it, so you'll need more pipe. It's low cost, but not very practical. I did have a set of weights and an oil reservoir for calibrating liquid pressure, but liquids are not (for our purposes) compressible and air is. So I don't know how accurate that might be. If you had some mercury, a 5 foot column should do the trick. Don't tell the EPD, though. On Sun, Apr 7, 2024, 15:37 Benjamin Zwissler > wrote: I calibrate my Milton (which has consistently read high) to my wife's tpms value. Partly because I assume the car is right and partly because I don't like it when she's telling me a week later that she's getting low pressure lights again. I don't know how to create an inexpensive standard for calibration. The Milton is the most expensive gauge I have and has been the least accurate. I looked it up on line and found lots of similar complaints about its inaccuracy. Any ideas on creating a low cost pressure standard for calibration? Ben On Sun, Apr 7, 2024, 1:49?PM Jeff Scarbrough > wrote: So, I have three tire gauges: Accutire electronic, Jayco mechanical, and Milton Inflator hose with gauge. All three report consistently, and all three are 3-4 psi different - low to high in the above order. Is there a simple way to check accuracy? Jeff Corrosion Acres, Ga. _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/bjzwissler at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Apr 26 13:04:40 2024 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 12:04:40 -0700 Subject: [Shop-talk] Tire Gauges In-Reply-To: <075301da97fe$f1882610$d4987230$@gmail.com> References:

<075301da97fe$f1882610$d4987230$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1887fade-f1c1-4ef4-b06b-f6a565238e12@comcast.net> I can name at least one place off the top-of-my-head that can calibrate torque wrenches, but not one that I know of that can calibrate pressure gauges (I do think some laboratories can do it). I have several analog gauges that don't agree (one is adjustable). I have 3 Accutire digital gauges that all agree with each other and my Mustang's TPMS; at least I have repeatability. I set tire pressure according to how the tires wear. On 4/26/2024 10:26 AM, alfuller194 at gmail.com wrote: > > Sorry for the late reply ? I have no idea where several weeks? worth > of messages have been hanging out! > > It might be worth checking with someone who already has their gauges > calibrated and comparing readings. I would hope the new car dealers > service department would actually calibrate gauges used on customer > cars, but would ask to be sure. It also occurs to me that last time I > moved the movers damaged my air compressor, and the insurance company > has a local company that repairs them. I wonder if they have > calibrated gauges, and if one could compare readings with theirs? > > ----------------------------------- > > All the best, > > Al Fuller > > *From:*Shop-talk *On Behalf Of > *Jeff Scarbrough > *Sent:* Sunday, April 7, 2024 1:13 PM > *To:* Benjamin Zwissler > *Cc:* Shop-talk at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] Tire Gauges > > I know that one foot of water column equals 0.433 psi.? So about 70 > feet of 2" pipe attached to the side of a tall building with a thin > diaphragm over a chamber with a Schrader valve should get you close.? > Might need to make a manometer out of it, so you'll need more pipe. > > It's low cost, but not very practical. ?I did have a set of weights > and an oil reservoir for calibrating liquid pressure, but liquids are > not (for our purposes) compressible and air is.? So I don't know how > accurate that might be. > > If you had some mercury, a 5 foot column should do the trick.? Don't > tell the EPD, though. > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2024, 15:37 Benjamin Zwissler wrote: > > I calibrate my Milton (which has consistently read high) to my > wife's tpms value. ?Partly because I assume the car is right and > partly because I don't like it when she's telling me a week later > that she's getting low pressure lights again. > > I don't know how to create an inexpensive standard for > calibration.? ?The Milton is the most expensive gauge I have and > has been the least accurate. I looked it up on line and found lots > of similar complaints about its inaccuracy. > > Any ideas on creating a low cost pressure standard for calibration? > > Ben > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2024, 1:49?PM Jeff Scarbrough > wrote: > > So, I have three tire gauges:? Accutire electronic, Jayco > mechanical, and Milton Inflator hose with gauge.? All three > report consistently, and?all three are 3-4 psi different - low > to high in the above order. > > Is there a simple way to check accuracy? > > ? ? Jeff > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patintexas at icloud.com Fri Apr 26 19:14:50 2024 From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 20:14:50 -0500 Subject: [Shop-talk] Tire Gauges In-Reply-To: <1887fade-f1c1-4ef4-b06b-f6a565238e12@comcast.net> References: <1887fade-f1c1-4ef4-b06b-f6a565238e12@comcast.net> Message-ID: <8265E364-98B6-4379-8F05-46C594735E4E@icloud.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tjcora at icloud.com Sat Apr 27 10:24:17 2024 From: tjcora at icloud.com (Thomas Coradeschi) Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2024 12:24:17 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] car repair at home (in my Shop) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I?ve had good luck with plastic welding. The Polyvance stuff is affordable and pretty easy to learn to use. https://www.polyvance.com ? Tom Coradeschi tjcora at icloud.com > On 25 Apr 2024, at 12:57 PM, Tim . wrote: > > The front bumper on my wife's 2016 Lexus recently got damaged. No clue how as there are no signs of it getting hit. I was able to reattach this broken bit using the original mounting clip but it obviously didn't hold. > > Any thoughts on what I can use to try to fix this broken mount point so the OEM clip will hold it? > > Thanks > tim > <20240424_151036.jpg>_______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/tjcora at icloud.com From fishplate at gmail.com Sat Apr 27 14:37:36 2024 From: fishplate at gmail.com (Jeff Scarbrough) Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2024 16:37:36 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] Tire Gauges In-Reply-To: <8265E364-98B6-4379-8F05-46C594735E4E@icloud.com> References: <1887fade-f1c1-4ef4-b06b-f6a565238e12@comcast.net> <8265E364-98B6-4379-8F05-46C594735E4E@icloud.com> Message-ID: I actually have one of those machines, and I suppose I could do some plumbing to attach it to a Schraeder valve to pressurize the gauge. I might just do the rounds of TPMS gauges to see which one most matches those and calibrate everything else to that one. Thanks for everyone's suggestions! On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 10:29?PM Pat Horne wrote: > Many years ago I worked in the Chemical Engineering Department at UT > Austin & in their main lab they had an hydraulic/weight calibrator for > pressure gauges. If you have a university nearby you might give them a > call. Rather than calibrate the entire gauge, you could just find out what > one gauge reads @ the tire pressure you use & calibrate any other ones to > that gauge. > > Peace, Pat > > Pat Horne > We support Habitat for Humanity > > > On Apr 26, 2024, at 5:36?PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > > ? I can name at least one place off the top-of-my-head that can calibrate > torque wrenches, but not one that I know of that can calibrate pressure > gauges (I do think some laboratories can do it). > > I have several analog gauges that don't agree (one is adjustable). I have > 3 Accutire digital gauges that all agree with each other and my Mustang's > TPMS; at least I have repeatability. I set tire pressure according to how > the tires wear. > > > On 4/26/2024 10:26 AM, alfuller194 at gmail.com wrote: > > Sorry for the late reply ? I have no idea where several weeks? worth of > messages have been hanging out! > > > > It might be worth checking with someone who already has their gauges > calibrated and comparing readings. I would hope the new car dealers service > department would actually calibrate gauges used on customer cars, but would > ask to be sure. It also occurs to me that last time I moved the movers > damaged my air compressor, and the insurance company has a local company > that repairs them. I wonder if they have calibrated gauges, and if one > could compare readings with theirs? > > > > ----------------------------------- > > All the best, > > > > Al Fuller > > > > *From:* Shop-talk > *On Behalf Of *Jeff Scarbrough > *Sent:* Sunday, April 7, 2024 1:13 PM > *To:* Benjamin Zwissler > *Cc:* Shop-talk at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] Tire Gauges > > > > I know that one foot of water column equals 0.433 psi. So about 70 feet > of 2" pipe attached to the side of a tall building with a thin diaphragm > over a chamber with a Schrader valve should get you close. Might need to > make a manometer out of it, so you'll need more pipe. > > > > It's low cost, but not very practical. I did have a set of weights and > an oil reservoir for calibrating liquid pressure, but liquids are not (for > our purposes) compressible and air is. So I don't know how accurate that > might be. > > > > If you had some mercury, a 5 foot column should do the trick. Don't tell > the EPD, though. > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2024, 15:37 Benjamin Zwissler wrote: > > I calibrate my Milton (which has consistently read high) to my wife's tpms > value. Partly because I assume the car is right and partly because I > don't like it when she's telling me a week later that she's getting low > pressure lights again. > > > > I don't know how to create an inexpensive standard for calibration. The > Milton is the most expensive gauge I have and has been the least accurate. > I looked it up on line and found lots of similar complaints about its > inaccuracy. > > > > Any ideas on creating a low cost pressure standard for calibration? > > > > Ben > > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2024, 1:49?PM Jeff Scarbrough wrote: > > So, I have three tire gauges: Accutire electronic, Jayco mechanical, and > Milton Inflator hose with gauge. All three report consistently, and all > three are 3-4 psi different - low to high in the above order. > > Is there a simple way to check accuracy? > > > > Jeff > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/patintexas at icloud.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/fishplate at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maynerdfamily at msn.com Sat Apr 27 15:39:14 2024 From: maynerdfamily at msn.com (Brian and Wendy Warrick) Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2024 21:39:14 +0000 Subject: [Shop-talk] Tire Gauges In-Reply-To: References: <1887fade-f1c1-4ef4-b06b-f6a565238e12@comcast.net> <8265E364-98B6-4379-8F05-46C594735E4E@icloud.com> Message-ID: Any decently sized metropolitian area should have a shop that just calibrates stuff. In Boise Idaho we have Boise Calibration Services. A couple of places I have worked have needed various instruments that have needed regular calibration and they all used Boise Calibration. I currently have a couple of digital 0-1000 PSI pressure gauges used in R stamp pressure vessel hydro tests that go in once a year for calibration. It may be expensive for just a tire gauge, but it shouldn't be hard to find someplace that can do it. https://boisecal.com/ Brian Nampa, ID ________________________________ From: Shop-talk on behalf of Jeff Scarbrough Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2024 2:37 PM To: Pat Horne Cc: Shop-talk at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Tire Gauges I actually have one of those machines, and I suppose I could do some plumbing to attach it to a Schraeder valve to pressurize the gauge. I might just do the rounds of TPMS gauges to see which one most matches those and calibrate everything else to that one. Thanks for everyone's suggestions! On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 10:29?PM Pat Horne > wrote: Many years ago I worked in the Chemical Engineering Department at UT Austin & in their main lab they had an hydraulic/weight calibrator for pressure gauges. If you have a university nearby you might give them a call. Rather than calibrate the entire gauge, you could just find out what one gauge reads @ the tire pressure you use & calibrate any other ones to that gauge. Peace, Pat Pat Horne We support Habitat for Humanity On Apr 26, 2024, at 5:36?PM, Bob Spidell > wrote: ? I can name at least one place off the top-of-my-head that can calibrate torque wrenches, but not one that I know of that can calibrate pressure gauges (I do think some laboratories can do it). I have several analog gauges that don't agree (one is adjustable). I have 3 Accutire digital gauges that all agree with each other and my Mustang's TPMS; at least I have repeatability. I set tire pressure according to how the tires wear. On 4/26/2024 10:26 AM, alfuller194 at gmail.com wrote: Sorry for the late reply ? I have no idea where several weeks? worth of messages have been hanging out! It might be worth checking with someone who already has their gauges calibrated and comparing readings. I would hope the new car dealers service department would actually calibrate gauges used on customer cars, but would ask to be sure. It also occurs to me that last time I moved the movers damaged my air compressor, and the insurance company has a local company that repairs them. I wonder if they have calibrated gauges, and if one could compare readings with theirs? ----------------------------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: Shop-talk

On Behalf Of Jeff Scarbrough Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2024 1:13 PM To: Benjamin Zwissler Cc: Shop-talk at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Tire Gauges I know that one foot of water column equals 0.433 psi. So about 70 feet of 2" pipe attached to the side of a tall building with a thin diaphragm over a chamber with a Schrader valve should get you close. Might need to make a manometer out of it, so you'll need more pipe. It's low cost, but not very practical. I did have a set of weights and an oil reservoir for calibrating liquid pressure, but liquids are not (for our purposes) compressible and air is. So I don't know how accurate that might be. If you had some mercury, a 5 foot column should do the trick. Don't tell the EPD, though. On Sun, Apr 7, 2024, 15:37 Benjamin Zwissler > wrote: I calibrate my Milton (which has consistently read high) to my wife's tpms value. Partly because I assume the car is right and partly because I don't like it when she's telling me a week later that she's getting low pressure lights again. I don't know how to create an inexpensive standard for calibration. The Milton is the most expensive gauge I have and has been the least accurate. I looked it up on line and found lots of similar complaints about its inaccuracy. Any ideas on creating a low cost pressure standard for calibration? Ben On Sun, Apr 7, 2024, 1:49?PM Jeff Scarbrough > wrote: So, I have three tire gauges: Accutire electronic, Jayco mechanical, and Milton Inflator hose with gauge. All three report consistently, and all three are 3-4 psi different - low to high in the above order. Is there a simple way to check accuracy? Jeff _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/patintexas at icloud.com _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/fishplate at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jniolon at att.net Tue Apr 30 13:23:19 2024 From: jniolon at att.net (john niolon) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2024 19:23:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Shop-talk] IPHONE MAP APPS FOR DUMMIES References: <944986150.5619151.1714504999366.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <944986150.5619151.1714504999366@mail.yahoo.com> Time to help the dummy again\I've mapped out a route I want to take on vacation trip in Google Maps... It gave me three options and I plotted my own.? Then I told GM to send it to my phone and email It sent a file but it was of one of their options, not my chosen route... can someone help me get my designed route to a phone or is there a better mapping app that lets you design your own route and save it. thanks the dummy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shop-talk2 at mcfetridge.org Tue Apr 30 15:18:29 2024 From: shop-talk2 at mcfetridge.org (Ian McFetridge) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2024 17:18:29 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] IPHONE MAP APPS FOR DUMMIES In-Reply-To: <944986150.5619151.1714504999366@mail.yahoo.com> References: <944986150.5619151.1714504999366.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <944986150.5619151.1714504999366@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Does this help with what you are trying to do? *How to save routes on Google Maps on Android and iOS* 1. Use the three dots to see features in Maps. 2. Clicking on Add will save the selected route to your home screen. 3. The route can be reopened from your home screen. 4. You can easily create routes with My Maps. 5. By clicking on Details, you can see more features. More items... ? Oct 24, 2023 https://www.ionos.com ? online-sales How to save routes on Google Maps - IONOS On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 3:27 PM john niolon wrote: > Time to help the dummy again > \ > I've mapped out a route I want to take on vacation trip in Google Maps... > It gave me three options and I plotted my own. Then I told GM to send it > to my phone and email > > It sent a file but it was of one of their options, not my chosen route... > can someone help me get my designed route to a phone > > or > > is there a better mapping app that lets you design your own route and save > it. > > thanks > > the dummy > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/shop-talk2 at mcfetridge.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: