From 1789alpine at gmail.com Sun Jun 4 06:34:48 2023 From: 1789alpine at gmail.com (Jim Stone) Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2023 08:34:48 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] Ceiling Paint In-Reply-To: References: <3EAE8DB2-C570-4701-B63E-7F374B6CD069@comcast.net> <36D4226D-F86A-4F64-923B-CA782C14D204@gmail.com> <0B005B8E-0A9E-49EF-81A5-6495C551DAAB@gmail.com> <5E17FAA3-D89D-4F78-B7E0-4F4B3BCA80C0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <23CF6A93-1191-4CFB-90DD-A8BE171E6E1F@gmail.com> For anyone who is interested, I can answer my own question. Just coincidentally, I played golf last week with a retired painter who told me to feel free to use the mixed paint. I primed some new walls with it yesterday and all went well. I now return you to your regularly scheduled shop-related discussions. Jim > On May 31, 2023, at 7:51 AM, Jim Stone <1789alpine at gmail.com> wrote: > > How much more money was wasted depends on the answer to my question, which is: can I use the primer mixed with the ceiling paint? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com Sat Jun 10 08:29:57 2023 From: tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com (Tim .) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2023 14:29:57 +0000 Subject: [Shop-talk] concrete fasteners Message-ID: I did some digging online and also looked at the local menards. I cannot find what I have pictured in my mind..... I am putting up a Vevor Carport right in front of my garage door in an effort to create more Shop space (see how I tied this into the shoptalk theme !) by adding a covered parking spot for my wife's DD. I am setting it up to be driven through into the garage so my old Jeep can be driven out through it and thus stored at home in winter. What I want to do it secure the carport to the slab but be able to remove it easily and not have the concrete anchor stick up from the ground. I have pictured putting a anchor in slab and then screwing down into the anchor through the drilled feet of the carport's framing. Can someone point me to what I am looking for please? Thanks tim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jamesf at groupwbench.org Sat Jun 10 09:06:57 2023 From: jamesf at groupwbench.org (Jim Franklin) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2023 11:06:57 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] concrete fasteners In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is common in garage floors to lock motorcycles to using a big D ring, or as this thread shows, anchoring a piece of machinery. usually they are set in place when the conrete is wet but of course many people install them afterwards. https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/removable-floor-anchor.3333/ jim > On Jun 10, 2023, at 10:29 AM, Tim . wrote: > > I did some digging online and also looked at the local menards. I cannot find what I have pictured in my mind..... > > I am putting up a Vevor Carport right in front of my garage door in an effort to create more Shop space (see how I tied this into the shoptalk theme !) by adding a covered parking spot for my wife's DD. I am setting it up to be driven through into the garage so my old Jeep can be driven out through it and thus stored at home in winter. > > What I want to do it secure the carport to the slab but be able to remove it easily and not have the concrete anchor stick up from the ground. I have pictured putting a anchor in slab and then screwing down into the anchor through the drilled feet of the carport's framing. > > Can someone point me to what I am looking for please? > > Thanks > tim > > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/jamesf at groupwbench.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jnew at hazelden.ca Sat Jun 10 10:09:21 2023 From: jnew at hazelden.ca (John P. New) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2023 12:09:21 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] concrete fasteners In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <14926903.tv2OnDr8pf@johnpc> How about "Female-Threaded Anchors for Concrete" https://www.mcmaster.com/products/anchors/anchor-type~female-threaded/ John P. New London, Ontario, Canada On Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:29:57 A.M. EDT Tim . wrote: > I did some digging online and also looked at the local menards. I cannot find what I have pictured in my mind..... > > I am putting up a Vevor Carport right in front of my garage door in an effort to create more Shop space (see how I tied this into the shoptalk theme !) by adding a covered parking spot for my wife's DD. I am setting it up to be driven through into the garage so my old Jeep can be driven out through it and thus stored at home in winter. > > What I want to do it secure the carport to the slab but be able to remove it easily and not have the concrete anchor stick up from the ground. I have pictured putting a anchor in slab and then screwing down into the anchor through the drilled feet of the carport's framing. > > Can someone point me to what I am looking for please? > > Thanks > tim > > > From tjcora at icloud.com Sat Jun 10 18:32:05 2023 From: tjcora at icloud.com (Tom Coradeschi) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2023 20:32:05 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] concrete fasteners In-Reply-To: <14926903.tv2OnDr8pf@johnpc> References: <14926903.tv2OnDr8pf@johnpc> Message-ID: That would be my solution. I have a set in my garage floor (1/2-13, I think) to tie down my tire changer when it?s in use. I put some flathead screws in them when not in use - keeps the crud out. Tom Coradeschi tjcora at icloud.com > On Jun 10, 2023, at 12:26 PM, John P. New wrote: > > ?How about "Female-Threaded Anchors for Concrete" > https://www.mcmaster.com/products/anchors/anchor-type~female-threaded/ > > John P. New > London, Ontario, Canada > > >> On Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:29:57 A.M. EDT Tim . wrote: >> I did some digging online and also looked at the local menards. I cannot find what I have pictured in my mind..... >> >> I am putting up a Vevor Carport right in front of my garage door in an effort to create more Shop space (see how I tied this into the shoptalk theme !) by adding a covered parking spot for my wife's DD. I am setting it up to be driven through into the garage so my old Jeep can be driven out through it and thus stored at home in winter. >> >> What I want to do it secure the carport to the slab but be able to remove it easily and not have the concrete anchor stick up from the ground. I have pictured putting a anchor in slab and then screwing down into the anchor through the drilled feet of the carport's framing. >> >> Can someone point me to what I am looking for please? >> >> Thanks >> tim >> >> >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/tjcora at icloud.com > From tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com Sun Jun 11 10:06:05 2023 From: tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com (Tim .) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2023 16:06:05 +0000 Subject: [Shop-talk] concrete fasteners In-Reply-To: <14926903.tv2OnDr8pf@johnpc> References: <14926903.tv2OnDr8pf@johnpc> Message-ID: Yes, this is what I pictured. I had forgotten about McMaster-Carr. thanks! ________________________________ From: Shop-talk on behalf of John P. New Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 11:09 AM To: shop-talk at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] concrete fasteners How about "Female-Threaded Anchors for Concrete" https://www.mcmaster.com/products/anchors/anchor-type~female-threaded/ John P. New London, Ontario, Canada On Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:29:57 A.M. EDT Tim . wrote: > I did some digging online and also looked at the local menards. I cannot find what I have pictured in my mind..... > > I am putting up a Vevor Carport right in front of my garage door in an effort to create more Shop space (see how I tied this into the shoptalk theme !) by adding a covered parking spot for my wife's DD. I am setting it up to be driven through into the garage so my old Jeep can be driven out through it and thus stored at home in winter. > > What I want to do it secure the carport to the slab but be able to remove it easily and not have the concrete anchor stick up from the ground. I have pictured putting a anchor in slab and then screwing down into the anchor through the drilled feet of the carport's framing. > > Can someone point me to what I am looking for please? > > Thanks > tim > > > _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jamesf at groupwbench.org Wed Jun 14 16:21:49 2023 From: jamesf at groupwbench.org (Jim Franklin) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2023 18:21:49 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] Cutting canvas rolls? Message-ID: <4F2AD8BE-D455-4E91-B3B3-A783FB1616AF@groupwbench.org> I have a friend who has 3 12" diameter rolls of coated canvas she needs to cut into smaller lengths. They tried hand cutting with a toothed blade but the teeth get caught in the canvas threads and tear it. I have a sawzall but I don't know if the blade speed will be fast enough to overcome the pull of the threads. Is there a non-toothed way to cut this? The rolls are 12 feet long now and quite heavy, 2-3 people to lift, so a floor solution would be best. thanks, jim From patintexas at icloud.com Wed Jun 14 16:55:21 2023 From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2023 17:55:21 -0500 Subject: [Shop-talk] Cutting canvas rolls? In-Reply-To: <4F2AD8BE-D455-4E91-B3B3-A783FB1616AF@groupwbench.org> References: <4F2AD8BE-D455-4E91-B3B3-A783FB1616AF@groupwbench.org> Message-ID: <3EDD838C-E8D2-4CBB-B5DC-51617B45DEA1@icloud.com> Jim, try an electric knife with a serrated blade. The blade may not be long enough to go all the way through in one pass & almost anything you try will give a rough cut. I doubt putting a circular saw blade on backwards would cut through canvas, but it works well on materiel that melts. To get a toothed blade to snag less, tightly wrap something around the roll so it is closer to a solid piece & it won?t snag as bad. Peace, Pat Pat Horne We support Habitat for Humanity On Jun 14, 2023, at 5:37 PM, Jim Franklin wrote: ?I have a friend who has 3 12" diameter rolls of coated canvas she needs to cut into smaller lengths. They tried hand cutting with a toothed blade but the teeth get caught in the canvas threads and tear it. I have a sawzall but I don't know if the blade speed will be fast enough to overcome the pull of the threads. Is there a non-toothed way to cut this? The rolls are 12 feet long now and quite heavy, 2-3 people to lift, so a floor solution would be best. thanks, jim _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/patintexas at icloud.com From darmstrong at nexicom.net Wed Jun 14 17:14:33 2023 From: darmstrong at nexicom.net (DArmstrong) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2023 19:14:33 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] Cutting canvas rolls? In-Reply-To: <4F2AD8BE-D455-4E91-B3B3-A783FB1616AF@groupwbench.org> References: <4F2AD8BE-D455-4E91-B3B3-A783FB1616AF@groupwbench.org> Message-ID: <004701d99f15$faaa88b0$efff9a10$@nexicom.net> What about these? You may need to contact the suppliers with the specific applications. https://www.cutsew.com/km-rsd50-hand-held-electric-fabric-cutter https://www.cutsew.com/AS100-Electric-Rotaty-Fabric-Cutter_p_7101.html https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832430166485.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4it emAdapt Doug -----Original Message----- From: Shop-talk On Behalf Of Jim Franklin Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2023 6:22 PM To: Shop Talk Subject: [Shop-talk] Cutting canvas rolls? I have a friend who has 3 12" diameter rolls of coated canvas she needs to cut into smaller lengths. They tried hand cutting with a toothed blade but the teeth get caught in the canvas threads and tear it. I have a sawzall but I don't know if the blade speed will be fast enough to overcome the pull of the threads. Is there a non-toothed way to cut this? The rolls are 12 feet long now and quite heavy, 2-3 people to lift, so a floor solution would be best. thanks, jim _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/darmstrong at nexicom.net -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com From shannahquilts at gmail.com Wed Jun 14 17:14:39 2023 From: shannahquilts at gmail.com (Shannah Miller) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2023 16:14:39 -0700 Subject: [Shop-talk] Cutting canvas rolls? In-Reply-To: <4F2AD8BE-D455-4E91-B3B3-A783FB1616AF@groupwbench.org> References: <4F2AD8BE-D455-4E91-B3B3-A783FB1616AF@groupwbench.org> Message-ID: Cutting fabric, especially canvas, is probably easiest with a non-toothed blade. Scissors, or rotary cutter are common. Thing is, you'd need something to cut against. I assume she doesn't want to unroll it? In that case, I would use the finest blade you can get for the Sawzall. Bosch makes a 9 inch 24tpi blade that might be just fine. Cutting through a 12 inch diameter roll would need some planning. Shannah On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 3:31?PM Jim Franklin wrote: > I have a friend who has 3 12" diameter rolls of coated canvas she needs to > cut into smaller lengths. They tried hand cutting with a toothed blade but > the teeth get caught in the canvas threads and tear it. I have a sawzall > but I don't know if the blade speed will be fast enough to overcome the > pull of the threads. Is there a non-toothed way to cut this? The rolls are > 12 feet long now and quite heavy, 2-3 people to lift, so a floor solution > would be best. > > thanks, > jim > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/shannahquilts at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From berry at kerch.com Wed Jun 14 18:41:15 2023 From: berry at kerch.com (Berry Kercheval) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2023 17:41:15 -0700 Subject: [Shop-talk] Cutting canvas rolls? In-Reply-To: References: <4F2AD8BE-D455-4E91-B3B3-A783FB1616AF@groupwbench.org> Message-ID: My first thought was a portable bandsaw, but I have not been able to find a listing for one with a big enough throat. (I assume the desire is to carve slices off the ends of the roll, like slicing a salami, without unrolling it.) On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 5:18 PM Shannah Miller wrote: > Cutting fabric, especially canvas, is probably easiest > with a non-toothed blade. Scissors, or rotary cutter are > common. Thing is, you'd need something to cut against. > I assume she doesn't want to unroll it? > > In that case, I would use the finest blade you can get > for the Sawzall. Bosch makes a 9 inch 24tpi blade that > might be just fine. Cutting through a 12 inch diameter > roll would need some planning. > > Shannah > > On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 3:31?PM Jim Franklin > wrote: > >> I have a friend who has 3 12" diameter rolls of coated canvas she needs >> to cut into smaller lengths. They tried hand cutting with a toothed blade >> but the teeth get caught in the canvas threads and tear it. I have a >> sawzall but I don't know if the blade speed will be fast enough to overcome >> the pull of the threads. Is there a non-toothed way to cut this? The rolls >> are 12 feet long now and quite heavy, 2-3 people to lift, so a floor >> solution would be best. >> >> thanks, >> jim >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Shop-talk at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.96 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/shannahquilts at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/berry at kerch.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jamesf at groupwbench.org Thu Jun 15 10:12:26 2023 From: jamesf at groupwbench.org (Jim Franklin) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2023 12:12:26 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] Cutting canvas rolls? In-Reply-To: <3eba9dcf-fdd5-0833-633a-8e6c5d0eaa21@protonmail.com> References: <4F2AD8BE-D455-4E91-B3B3-A783FB1616AF@groupwbench.org> <3eba9dcf-fdd5-0833-633a-8e6c5d0eaa21@protonmail.com> Message-ID: <0817BD2E-E756-4F35-9E9E-54719BD11D83@groupwbench.org> > On Jun 14, 2023, at 6:35 PM, Donald H Locker wrote: > > Is the objective to cut the 12ft roll length into shorter rolls, or to > cut the rolled canvas into shorter 12ft-wide lengths? Yes, from 12' long down to 4' long. They tried unrolling and it's many dozens of yards long so that got shut down quickly. > > Assuming the former, the cutting tool must have no teeth but must be > able to cut through the depth of the roll. A knife at least four feet > long (to be able to cut the full circumference of the first pass) long > will be required. Rolling the canvas rolls on the floor while pressing > the knife on it is the only way I know to achieve a clean cut. The knife > MUST be sharp and very stiff. > > If the latter, a utility knife is the right answer. I have never seen a four foot utility knife :-) An electric turkey carver is my goto for stuff like foam but the canvas is stout and I don't see it working. A rotary razor is ideal, but the best I can come up with is a disc grinder which doesn't have the depth. Thanks for all the ideas so far. jim From eric at megageek.com Thu Jun 15 11:11:12 2023 From: eric at megageek.com (eric at megageek.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2023 13:11:12 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] Cutting canvas rolls? In-Reply-To: <0817BD2E-E756-4F35-9E9E-54719BD11D83@groupwbench.org> References: <4F2AD8BE-D455-4E91-B3B3-A783FB1616AF@groupwbench.org> <3eba9dcf-fdd5-0833-633a-8e6c5d0eaa21@protonmail.com> <0817BD2E-E756-4F35-9E9E-54719BD11D83@groupwbench.org> Message-ID: I don't know if you are near NJ, but I have 2 massive bandsaws (one wood and one metal) with fine tooth blades. You're welcome to try them. If not, one crazy idea would be to fill the core so it's solid, and visit your local fire department and see if they can use their jaws of life cutter on them. 8>) Moose From: Jim Franklin To: Shop Talk Date: 06/15/2023 01:00 PM Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Cutting canvas rolls? Sent by: "Shop-talk" > On Jun 14, 2023, at 6:35 PM, Donald H Locker wrote: > > Is the objective to cut the 12ft roll length into shorter rolls, or to > cut the rolled canvas into shorter 12ft-wide lengths? Yes, from 12' long down to 4' long. They tried unrolling and it's many dozens of yards long so that got shut down quickly. > > Assuming the former, the cutting tool must have no teeth but must be > able to cut through the depth of the roll. A knife at least four feet > long (to be able to cut the full circumference of the first pass) long > will be required. Rolling the canvas rolls on the floor while pressing > the knife on it is the only way I know to achieve a clean cut. The knife > MUST be sharp and very stiff. > > If the latter, a utility knife is the right answer. I have never seen a four foot utility knife :-) An electric turkey carver is my goto for stuff like foam but the canvas is stout and I don't see it working. A rotary razor is ideal, but the best I can come up with is a disc grinder which doesn't have the depth. Thanks for all the ideas so far. jim _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/eric at megageek.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dhlocker at protonmail.com Thu Jun 15 11:35:36 2023 From: dhlocker at protonmail.com (Donald H Locker) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2023 17:35:36 +0000 Subject: [Shop-talk] Cutting canvas rolls? In-Reply-To: <0817BD2E-E756-4F35-9E9E-54719BD11D83@groupwbench.org> References: <4F2AD8BE-D455-4E91-B3B3-A783FB1616AF@groupwbench.org> <3eba9dcf-fdd5-0833-633a-8e6c5d0eaa21@protonmail.com> <0817BD2E-E756-4F35-9E9E-54719BD11D83@groupwbench.org> Message-ID: <132a3294-05d9-b193-f7cd-6da9ef0cf64c@protonmail.com> Sorry for the previous off-list reply (I didn't realise I hadn't replied on-list...) and thanks for bring it back. In any case, have you considered something like a bow saw with the blade reversed? Or a hacksaw with the blade reversed? It occurred to me that one needn't roll the roll entirely across the blade; one could roll partway, move the blade forward (or backward) then roll under the blade again. Clearly, I'm thinking still of a toothless solution. These ideas may also be brainless; just tossing them out! Best of luck, Donald. On 2023-06-15 12:12, Jim Franklin wrote: > >> On Jun 14, 2023, at 6:35 PM, Donald H Locker wrote: >> >> Is the objective to cut the 12ft roll length into shorter rolls, or to >> cut the rolled canvas into shorter 12ft-wide lengths? > Yes, from 12' long down to 4' long. > > They tried unrolling and it's many dozens of yards long so that got shut down quickly. > >> Assuming the former, the cutting tool must have no teeth but must be >> able to cut through the depth of the roll. A knife at least four feet >> long (to be able to cut the full circumference of the first pass) long >> will be required. Rolling the canvas rolls on the floor while pressing >> the knife on it is the only way I know to achieve a clean cut. The knife >> MUST be sharp and very stiff. >> >> If the latter, a utility knife is the right answer. > I have never seen a four foot utility knife :-) > > An electric turkey carver is my goto for stuff like foam but the canvas is stout and I don't see it working. > > A rotary razor is ideal, but the best I can come up with is a disc grinder which doesn't have the depth. > > Thanks for all the ideas so far. > > jim > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/dhlocker at protonmail.com > From patintexas at icloud.com Thu Jun 15 12:46:25 2023 From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2023 13:46:25 -0500 Subject: [Shop-talk] Cutting canvas rolls? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1CD85F24-6418-4F30-8C61-627A3C5CEC06@icloud.com> I?ve also seen paper shears in print shops that can cut close to a foot of paper, might look into that but it would require taking the rolls somewhere. Pat Horne We support Habitat for Humanity On Jun 15, 2023, at 1:35 PM, eric at megageek.com wrote: ?I don't know if you are near NJ, but I have 2 massive bandsaws (one wood and one metal) with fine tooth blades. You're welcome to try them. If not, one crazy idea would be to fill the core so it's solid, and visit your local fire department and see if they can use their jaws of life cutter on them. 8>) Moose From: Jim Franklin To: Shop Talk Date: 06/15/2023 01:00 PM Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Cutting canvas rolls? Sent by: "Shop-talk" > On Jun 14, 2023, at 6:35 PM, Donald H Locker wrote: > > Is the objective to cut the 12ft roll length into shorter rolls, or to > cut the rolled canvas into shorter 12ft-wide lengths? Yes, from 12' long down to 4' long. They tried unrolling and it's many dozens of yards long so that got shut down quickly. > > Assuming the former, the cutting tool must have no teeth but must be > able to cut through the depth of the roll. A knife at least four feet > long (to be able to cut the full circumference of the first pass) long > will be required. Rolling the canvas rolls on the floor while pressing > the knife on it is the only way I know to achieve a clean cut. The knife > MUST be sharp and very stiff. > > If the latter, a utility knife is the right answer. I have never seen a four foot utility knife :-) An electric turkey carver is my goto for stuff like foam but the canvas is stout and I don't see it working. A rotary razor is ideal, but the best I can come up with is a disc grinder which doesn't have the depth. Thanks for all the ideas so far. jim _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/eric at megageek.com _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/patintexas at icloud.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fishplate at gmail.com Thu Jun 15 14:26:21 2023 From: fishplate at gmail.com (Jeff Scarbrough) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2023 16:26:21 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] Cutting canvas rolls? In-Reply-To: <132a3294-05d9-b193-f7cd-6da9ef0cf64c@protonmail.com> References: <4F2AD8BE-D455-4E91-B3B3-A783FB1616AF@groupwbench.org> <3eba9dcf-fdd5-0833-633a-8e6c5d0eaa21@protonmail.com> <0817BD2E-E756-4F35-9E9E-54719BD11D83@groupwbench.org> <132a3294-05d9-b193-f7cd-6da9ef0cf64c@protonmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 2:52?PM Donald H Locker wrote: > > Clearly, I'm thinking still of a toothless solution. Is it possible to sharpen the back side of a bow saw blade? Like a big knife? Likewise, I have no idea if this would work. But it's fun to think about! From szwedj at gmail.com Thu Jun 15 16:50:01 2023 From: szwedj at gmail.com (Joe Szwed) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2023 18:50:01 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] 1. Re: Cutting canvas rolls? Message-ID: <147F2A03-5C5B-4147-828C-70E4FDC879FC@gmail.com> Just a thought but what if you clamp it tight right on the cut line to hold it with something that you could saw right through like plastic banding? Joe Sent from my iPhone From dmscheidt at gmail.com Thu Jun 15 20:41:53 2023 From: dmscheidt at gmail.com (David Scheidt) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2023 21:41:53 -0500 Subject: [Shop-talk] Cutting canvas rolls? In-Reply-To: <4F2AD8BE-D455-4E91-B3B3-A783FB1616AF@groupwbench.org> References: <4F2AD8BE-D455-4E91-B3B3-A783FB1616AF@groupwbench.org> Message-ID: <292C6C87-F45E-4E13-908B-9D41F653FC3C@gmail.com> > On Jun 14, 2023, at 17:33, Jim Franklin wrote: > > ?I have a friend who has 3 12" diameter rolls of coated canvas she needs to cut into smaller lengths. They tried hand cutting with a toothed blade but the teeth get caught in the canvas threads and tear it. I have a sawzall but I don't know if the blade speed will be fast enough to overcome the pull of the threads. Is there a non-toothed way to cut this? The rolls are 12 feet long now and quite heavy, 2-3 people to lift, so a floor solution would be best. > I have two suggestions: first, sell it, and buy something suitable. Second, there are industrial converters who have the equipment to unroll it, slit to width, and roll it back up. This is a fair l?y common need, but the sewn product industry in the US is pretty dead, so unless you?re in ny or LA, there?s unlikely to be something local. Trying to do this with a saw will be a disaster. > From jamesf at groupwbench.org Fri Jun 16 10:51:01 2023 From: jamesf at groupwbench.org (Jim Franklin) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2023 12:51:01 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] Foam customization on modern seats? Message-ID: I have a CX-5 whose seats feel like inflatable pool rafts. The most roly poly lack of support I've ever experienced, makes my 70s bench seats feel like Recaro buckets in comparison. Has anyone had experience with finding/using a shop that can handle modern seats? Googling gets me lots of hot rod reupholsters, but other than calling and taking their word for it, I don't see any "we're US Airbag Association certified repair shop" etc. thanks, jim From jamesf at groupwbench.org Sun Jun 18 08:30:15 2023 From: jamesf at groupwbench.org (Jim Franklin) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2023 10:30:15 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] Foam customization on modern seats? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12831689-624B-4DF5-8ECF-21A1FACC90D4@groupwbench.org> Littleton MA > On Jun 17, 2023, at 1:00 PM, Al Fuller wrote: > > Where are you located? > > ________________ > Best Regards, > Al Fuller > > On Fri, Jun 16, 2023, 6:56 PM Jim Franklin > wrote: > I have a CX-5 whose seats feel like inflatable pool rafts. The most roly poly lack of support I've ever experienced, makes my 70s bench seats feel like Recaro buckets in comparison. > > Has anyone had experience with finding/using a shop that can handle modern seats? Googling gets me lots of hot rod reupholsters, but other than calling and taking their word for it, I don't see any "we're US Airbag Association certified repair shop" etc. > > thanks, > jim > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/alfuller194 at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jamesf at groupwbench.org Sun Jun 18 08:39:34 2023 From: jamesf at groupwbench.org (Jim Franklin) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2023 10:39:34 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] Cutting canvas rolls? In-Reply-To: <132a3294-05d9-b193-f7cd-6da9ef0cf64c@protonmail.com> References: <4F2AD8BE-D455-4E91-B3B3-A783FB1616AF@groupwbench.org> <3eba9dcf-fdd5-0833-633a-8e6c5d0eaa21@protonmail.com> <0817BD2E-E756-4F35-9E9E-54719BD11D83@groupwbench.org> <132a3294-05d9-b193-f7cd-6da9ef0cf64c@protonmail.com> Message-ID: > On Jun 15, 2023, at 1:35 PM, Donald H Locker wrote: > > Sorry for the previous off-list reply (I didn't realise I hadn't replied > on-list...) and thanks for bring it back. I do wish the list admins would change the default reply-to to be the list rather than the individual. To me that's much more in keeping with the spirit of the list. > > In any case, have you considered something like a bow saw with the blade > reversed? Or a hacksaw with the blade reversed? It occurred to me that > one needn't roll the roll entirely across the blade; one could roll > partway, move the blade forward (or backward) then roll under the blade > again. A bow saw or other saw with hook or skip teeth rather than chipping teeth might work...where the concave part of the hook is razor sharp to slice rather than chip. Yesterday I saw some long sharp landscaping blades which might work, but the people in question (a non-profit maker space) would likely resist spending that much $ on a unitasker. We do have a machine shop but none of those shop captains have a solution. I've seen lots of videos where the roll spins and all manner of things are used to cut it, but we don't have a way to spin it so the saw needs to be the moving part. I may give a fine toothed sawzall a shot and see how badly it tears the weave. There is a cement blade for it, but that's abrasive rather than slicing. jim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at bradakis.com Sun Jun 18 09:26:15 2023 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2023 09:26:15 -0600 Subject: [Shop-talk] Cutting canvas rolls? In-Reply-To: References: <4F2AD8BE-D455-4E91-B3B3-A783FB1616AF@groupwbench.org> <3eba9dcf-fdd5-0833-633a-8e6c5d0eaa21@protonmail.com> <0817BD2E-E756-4F35-9E9E-54719BD11D83@groupwbench.org> <132a3294-05d9-b193-f7cd-6da9ef0cf64c@protonmail.com> Message-ID: On 6/18/23 8:39 AM, Jim Franklin wrote: > > I do wish the list admins would change the default reply-to to be the > list rather than the individual. To me that's much more in keeping with > the spirit of the list. > There is no "default reply-to" for the lists. That behavior is totally dependent on the mail reading program the recipients use. It depends on your mail program. For me, I use Thunderbird, which gives me the option to reply to the sender or reply to the list. mjb. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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For me, I use Thunderbird, which gives me the option to reply to the sender or reply to the list. > > mjb. > > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/tjcora at icloud.com > From jamesf at groupwbench.org Mon Jun 19 19:05:51 2023 From: jamesf at groupwbench.org (Jim Franklin) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2023 21:05:51 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] Cutting canvas rolls? In-Reply-To: <4C93AD70-6293-44BA-9773-0A3BF87802CD@icloud.com> References: <4C93AD70-6293-44BA-9773-0A3BF87802CD@icloud.com> Message-ID: <61A411E0-9AD8-4167-8731-052DA65B6175@groupwbench.org> I have been on lists (like this) where we're civil and low volume, so reply-to list was fine. And I have been on lists where otherwise mature adults just could not stop themselves from publicly insulting those with whom they disagreed, so we had to make them work for it by setting the reply-to to be the sender. Relatedly, the same maker space that has the canvas rolls also has a few 3D printers, and I've printed quite a few things, both from scratch using Tinkercad, and from existing internet files from Thingaverse. It's been a neat thing to learn and not even remotely as intimidating as I expected. I have not figured out how to 3D print a canvas roll cutter though :-) jim > On Jun 19, 2023, at 8:28 PM, Tom Coradeschi wrote: > > Actually, it is an admin configurable setting in mailman. The conventional wisdom (not universally accepted) is to turn it off. > > Tom Coradeschi > tjcora at icloud.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I take it the hot rod shops can't handle modern seats with air bags? ________________ Best Regards, Al Fuller On Sun, Jun 18, 2023, 4:36 PM Jim Franklin wrote: > Littleton MA > > On Jun 17, 2023, at 1:00 PM, Al Fuller wrote: > > Where are you located? > > ________________ > Best Regards, > Al Fuller > > On Fri, Jun 16, 2023, 6:56 PM Jim Franklin wrote: > >> I have a CX-5 whose seats feel like inflatable pool rafts. The most roly >> poly lack of support I've ever experienced, makes my 70s bench seats feel >> like Recaro buckets in comparison. >> >> Has anyone had experience with finding/using a shop that can handle >> modern seats? 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Meaning, I can only get to about??to > 1/3 of that part of the system. > > I'd really like to clean all the way around this cylinder-shaped unit. > So, how to frell do I do this? > > Again, sorry this isn't shop talk related but I did use tools from my > outside shop to access this impossible to clean system. > > cheers > tim > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/bk13 at earthlink.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neiljsherry at talktalk.net Sat Jun 24 01:01:27 2023 From: neiljsherry at talktalk.net (neiljsherry at talktalk.net) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2023 08:01:27 +0100 Subject: [Shop-talk] ongoing too warm refrigerator In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9F7C0699-ACB2-4A25-8823-AAC3997FE763@talktalk.net> Blast of compressed air (preferably with refrigerator outside!) On 24 June 2023 00:28:01 BST, "Tim ." wrote: >I asked about this issue some time ago. > >I finally pulled my head out of my nether region and realized maybe, juuuuust maybe, the coils needed to be cleaned. > >So, I just did what I could do. Meaning, I can only get to about ? to 1/3 of that part of the system. > >I'd really like to clean all the way around this cylinder-shaped unit. So, how to frell do I do this? > >Again, sorry this isn't shop talk related but I did use tools from my outside shop to access this impossible to clean system. > >cheers >tim -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave1massey at cs.com Sat Jun 24 06:12:01 2023 From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2023 12:12:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Shop-talk] ongoing too warm refrigerator In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <902018212.4510767.1687608721420@mail.yahoo.com> Have you tried compressed air?? I have an old propane bottle with a conversion kit to make it a portable compressed air reservoir.? It comes in handy on occasion. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Tim . To: Shop Talk Sent: Fri, Jun 23, 2023 6:28 pm Subject: [Shop-talk] ongoing too warm refrigerator #yiv3829647503 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}I asked about this issue some time ago.? I finally pulled my head out of my nether region and realized maybe, juuuuust maybe, the coils needed to be cleaned. So, I just did what I could do. Meaning, I can only get to about???to 1/3 of that part of the system.? I'd really like to clean all the way around this cylinder-shaped unit. So, how to frell do I do this? Again, sorry this isn't shop talk related but I did use tools from my outside shop to access this impossible to clean system.? cheerstim_______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/dave1massey at cs.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From JIBrooks at live.com Tue Jun 27 16:47:58 2023 From: JIBrooks at live.com (Jack Brooks) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2023 22:47:58 +0000 Subject: [Shop-talk] ongoing too warm refrigerator In-Reply-To: <902018212.4510767.1687608721420@mail.yahoo.com> References: <902018212.4510767.1687608721420@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Consider taping a smaller hose to the end of a shop vac hose. The smaller hose may be able to snake back and get those hard to reach areas. If not, move the fridge outside and, as Dave mentions below, hit it with compressed air. Jack From: Shop-talk On Behalf Of DAVID MASSEY Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2023 5:12 AM To: tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com; shop-talk at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] ongoing too warm refrigerator Have you tried compressed air? I have an old propane bottle with a conversion kit to make it a portable compressed air reservoir. It comes in handy on occasion. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Tim . > To: Shop Talk > Sent: Fri, Jun 23, 2023 6:28 pm Subject: [Shop-talk] ongoing too warm refrigerator I asked about this issue some time ago. I finally pulled my head out of my nether region and realized maybe, juuuuust maybe, the coils needed to be cleaned. So, I just did what I could do. Meaning, I can only get to about ? to 1/3 of that part of the system. I'd really like to clean all the way around this cylinder-shaped unit. So, how to frell do I do this? Again, sorry this isn't shop talk related but I did use tools from my outside shop to access this impossible to clean system. cheers tim _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/dave1massey at cs.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eric at megageek.com Wed Jun 28 05:45:01 2023 From: eric at megageek.com (eric at megageek.com) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 07:45:01 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] LED motion lights Message-ID: Ob Shop Content, I need these all around my shop! 8>) braintrust... I have been in a constant battle to find an LED outdoor motion light that will work for more than a year or two. I've tried cheap ones, expensive ones, and nearly everything in between. 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I have been in a constant battle to find an LED outdoor motion light that will work for more than a year or two. I've tried cheap ones, expensive ones, and nearly everything in between. Can someone recommend a brand/model that they have had good success with? I am looking for hardwired ones only, not the solar Are you using integrated led lights? If so, my experience is anything sold at box stores are garbage, no one is willing to pay for something that?s not. Get a fixture that takes bulbs, put led par bulbs in them. At least it?s possible to replace failed bulbs. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From parkanzky at gmail.com Wed Jun 28 08:00:25 2023 From: parkanzky at gmail.com (Paul Parkanzky) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 10:00:25 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] LED motion lights In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I use the Wyze Cam Floodlight. It might be a bit more technology than you are looking for but it's nice to be able to set the behavior and sensitivity from the app and I'm a big fan of Wyze cameras so this puts one in a great spot for me. I've been using mine to watch a crew do demolition on my lakefront and put a new seawall and retaining wall in. -Paul On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 8:03?AM wrote: > Ob Shop Content, I need these all around my shop! 8>) > > braintrust... > > I have been in a constant battle to find an LED outdoor motion light that > will work for more than a year or two. > > I've tried cheap ones, expensive ones, and nearly everything in between. > > Can someone recommend a brand/model that they have had good success with? > I am looking for hardwired ones only, not the solar battery ones. > > Thanks. > > Moose_______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/parkanzky at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fishplate at gmail.com Wed Jun 28 08:02:07 2023 From: fishplate at gmail.com (Jeff Scarbrough) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 10:02:07 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] LED motion lights In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My experience with motion detecting fixtures is that the electronic board fails before the lamps do. I suspect lightning or surges - I don't know if a whole-house surge protector would help. On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 9:37?AM David Scheidt wrote: > > > > On Jun 28, 2023, at 06:59, eric at megageek.com wrote: > > ?Ob Shop Content, I need these all around my shop! 8>) > > braintrust... > > I have been in a constant battle to find an LED outdoor motion light that will work for more than a year or two. > > I've tried cheap ones, expensive ones, and nearly everything in between. > > Can someone recommend a brand/model that they have had good success with? I am looking for hardwired ones only, not the solar > > > Are you using integrated led lights? If so, my experience is anything sold at box stores are garbage, no one is willing to pay for something that?s not. Get a fixture that takes bulbs, put led par bulbs in them. At least it?s possible to replace failed bulbs. > > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/fishplate at gmail.com > From tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com Wed Jun 28 10:44:24 2023 From: tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com (Tim .) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 16:44:24 +0000 Subject: [Shop-talk] wireless router help Message-ID: My modem/router is about three y ears old. It is either losing connection to the web or my ISP keeps "flashing" off for lack of a better term. The connection fails sometime just long enough to kick me off the vpn for work. Can anyone see what might be the cause from these log entries? Is my modem losing connection? Or is my ISP the cause? THANKS!!! [cid:bad11cd3-619e-4bcb-b8ca-7e4d96cf2c1c] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.png Type: image/png Size: 65063 bytes Desc: image.png URL: From eric at megageek.com Wed Jun 28 11:12:28 2023 From: eric at megageek.com (eric at megageek.com) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 13:12:28 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] LED motion lights In-Reply-To: <642204be-08e8-c4f1-cb56-37cf9b8f50ff@sackheads.org> References: <642204be-08e8-c4f1-cb56-37cf9b8f50ff@sackheads.org> Message-ID: I guess I should have stated that I've been having problems finding one for decades. I had the old style with screw in bulbs (BEFORE there were even LEDs.) I've tried the build in LEDs. They mostly fail by either never turning off, or never turning on (and yes, I'm aware that some have 'overrides' where you turn it and off with the switch and it works normal, this wasn't the case.) the last one would flash on and off constantly and night. From: Jimmie Mayfield To: shop-talk at autox.team.net Date: 06/28/2023 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] LED motion lights Sent by: "Shop-talk" Any ideas what the failure mode was for the fixtures that have died? Were they the style that had non-replaceable LEDs or were they the old-school style that use screw-in bulbs? On 6/28/23 07:45, eric at megageek.com wrote: Ob Shop Content, I need these all around my shop! 8>) braintrust... I have been in a constant battle to find an LED outdoor motion light that will work for more than a year or two. I've tried cheap ones, expensive ones, and nearly everything in between. Can someone recommend a brand/model that they have had good success with? 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Beach, Va Phone: (757) 495-8229 65 Morgan 4/4 Series V (B1106) 75 Bricklin SV1 (#0887) 48 TR1800 48 #4 Midget 65, 77 Spitfire 71 Saab Sonett III 65 Rambler Classic 65 Volvo P1800 Morgan: http://autox.team.net/morgan/ http://autox.team.net/morgan/ Bricklin: http://www.bricklin.org http://www.bricklin.org/ If you can read this - Thank a teacher! If you are reading it in English - Thank a Vet!! >From Dennis Prager - The American Trilogy: e pluribus Unum, "from many, one." In God We Trust Liberty - the power of choosing, thinking, and acting for oneself; freedom from control or restriction -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From parkanzky at gmail.com Thu Jun 29 09:27:07 2023 From: parkanzky at gmail.com (Paul Parkanzky) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 11:27:07 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] LED motion lights In-Reply-To: References: <642204be-08e8-c4f1-cb56-37cf9b8f50ff@sackheads.org> Message-ID: That's a failure in the photocell or a mismatch between the bulb used and the photocell. The photocell can't be sensitive to the light the fixture puts out or it will see that it is dark, turn the light on, 'think' "Oh it's light now!" and turn the light off, at which point it will see that it's dark and restart the loop. -Paul On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 4:28?PM wrote: > I guess I should have stated that I've been having problems finding one > for decades. I had the old style with screw in bulbs (BEFORE there were > even LEDs.) I've tried the build in LEDs. > > They mostly fail by either never turning off, or never turning on (and > yes, I'm aware that some have 'overrides' where you turn it and off with > the switch and it works normal, this wasn't the case.) the last one would > flash on and off constantly and night. > > > > From: Jimmie Mayfield > To: shop-talk at autox.team.net > Date: 06/28/2023 11:03 AM > Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] LED motion lights > Sent by: "Shop-talk" > ------------------------------ > > > > Any ideas what the failure mode was for the fixtures that have died? Were > they the style that had non-replaceable LEDs or were they the old-school > style that use screw-in bulbs? > > > > On 6/28/23 07:45, *eric at megageek.com* wrote: > Ob Shop Content, I need these all around my shop! 8>) > > braintrust... > > I have been in a constant battle to find an LED outdoor motion light that > will work for more than a year or two. > > I've tried cheap ones, expensive ones, and nearly everything in between. > > Can someone recommend a brand/model that they have had good success with? > I am looking for hardwired ones only, not the solar battery ones. > > Thanks. > > Moose > _______________________________________________ > > *Shop-talk at autox.team.net* > Donate: *http://www.team.net/donate.html* > > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: *http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk* > *http://autox.team.net/archive* > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > *http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mayfield+shoptalk at sackheads.org* > > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/eric at megageek.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/parkanzky at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com Thu Jun 29 13:26:14 2023 From: tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com (Tim .) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 19:26:14 +0000 Subject: [Shop-talk] Sweeping compound In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I didn't make any in small batches but i was able to reconstitute a small batch of what I already have using mineral oil. thanks!!! ________________________________ From: Mark Miller Sent: Monday, May 15, 2023 3:07 AM To: shop-talk at autox.team.net ; tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com Subject: RE: Sweeping compound Consider making it in small batches as you need it: https://www.practicalmachinist.com/forum/threads/sweeping-compound-recipe-question.140157/ And you can probably add some oil to the stuff you have that has dried. Regards, Mark Miller 707-490-5834 markmiller at threeboysfarm.com On 5/12/2023 11:00 AM, shop-talk-request at autox.team.net wrote: > Today's Topics: > > 1. reconstitute sweeping compound? (Tim .) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 11 May 2023 19:40:04 +0000 > From: "Tim ." > To: "Shop Talk" > Subject: [Shop-talk] reconstitute sweeping compound? > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I've only ever been able to find it around here in big arse bags and it dries out long before I ever finish a bag. Dried out makes it totally worthless. When new it is slightly oily, right? > > Any thoughts on how I can reconstitute it (for lack of a better term)? > > thanks > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dmscheidt at gmail.com Fri Jun 30 11:22:49 2023 From: dmscheidt at gmail.com (David Scheidt) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 12:22:49 -0500 Subject: [Shop-talk] LED motion lights In-Reply-To: References: <642204be-08e8-c4f1-cb56-37cf9b8f50ff@sackheads.org> Message-ID: On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 3:23?PM wrote: > > I guess I should have stated that I've been having problems finding one for decades. I had the old style with screw in bulbs (BEFORE there were even LEDs.) I've tried the build in LEDs. > > They mostly fail by either never turning off, or never turning on (and yes, I'm aware that some have 'overrides' where you turn it and off with the switch and it works normal, this wasn't the case.) the last one would flash on and off constantly and night. i have two motion lights here. One came with the place, but didnt work properly, the other I installed. Both now use sensors from heath zenith (one is this one: https://www.amazon.com/Heath-Zenith-HZ-5316-WH-240-Degree-Replacement/dp/B000OUW7O the other is similar, but the beam angle is smaller). The existing one just had the sensor swapped out, the one I installed has the sensor mounted remotely from the light it controls (only sensible way to make that light location work). Both have been working fine for several years. -- David Scheidt dmscheidt at gmail.com