From jamesf at groupwbench.org Tue Jul 4 08:14:49 2023 From: jamesf at groupwbench.org (Jim Franklin) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2023 10:14:49 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] Removing old bathroom wall extractor fan Message-ID: Hi all...I'm trying to remove this wall fan in a 200 year old house. It vents into the "garage" right behind some cast iron drain pipes and those pipes are blocking me from just pulling it straight out so I'm trying to pull each half out from its respective side of the wall. (I don't know how they installed it- I would have expected the pipes to pre-date the fan but the fan is probably 70s vintage so maybe the fan predates PVC and plumbing was added in the years between the fan and PVC). Anyway, the fan looks to be this style/model: https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FCu8OhTtUkAEajfy.jpg&tbnid=JxaOVMSud28bgM&vet=10CBYQMyhyahcKEwig3Jb9mvX_AhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQAg..i&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fd0n_r%2Fstatus%2F787864510031769600&docid=1TasVlklGIo5zM&w=1200&h=673&q=original%20bathroom%20wall%20fan&client=firefox-b-1-d&ved=0CBYQMyhyahcKEwig3Jb9mvX_AhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQAg It appears that the fan is in two sliding pieces so it can adjusted to the thickness of the wall, but I'm having a real hard time separating the two halves even though I don't see any mechanical fasteners holding them together such as screws you'd see on ductwork. I can't see the outer perimeter of the fan because of plaster, insulation, etc. My question is, if you've come across this type of fan before, and are there any other interlocking mechanisms that might be holding them together or is it just 50 years of crud? Prying on the inside half's rolled lip just makes a lot of "dust" when the pry bar eventually slips. I'll attach the best photo of mine I could take but I don't think it will be of any use. The nut/bolt you see is only holding an outlet to the vertical bar and also the bathroom side cover, and was removed. thanks, jim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Removing old bathroom wall extractor fan (Jim Franklin) > > Hi all...I'm trying to remove this wall fan in a 200 year old house. It vents into the "garage" right behind some cast iron drain pipes and those pipes are blocking me from just pulling it straight out so I'm trying to pull each half out from its respective side of the wall. (I don't know how they installed it- I would have expected the pipes to pre-date the fan but the fan is probably 70s vintage so maybe the fan predates PVC and plumbing was added in the years between the fan and PVC). > > Anyway, the fan looks to be this style/model: > > https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FCu8OhTtUkAEajfy.jpg&tbnid=JxaOVMSud28bgM&vet=10CBYQMyhyahcKEwig3Jb9mvX_AhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQAg..i&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fd0n_r%2Fstatus%2F787864510031769600&docid=1TasVlklGIo5zM&w=1200&h=673&q=original%20bathroom%20wall%20fan&client=firefox-b-1-d&ved=0CBYQMyhyahcKEwig3Jb9mvX_AhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQAg > > It appears that the fan is in two sliding pieces so it can adjusted to the thickness of the wall, but I'm having a real hard time separating the two halves even though I don't see any mechanical fasteners holding them together such as screws you'd see on ductwork. I can't see the outer perimeter of the fan because of plaster, insulation, etc. > > My question is, if you've come across this type of fan before, and are there any other interlocking mechanisms that might be holding them together or is it just 50 years of crud? Prying on the inside half's rolled lip just makes a lot of "dust" when the pry bar eventually slips. > > I'll attach the best photo of mine I could take but I don't think it will be of any use. The nut/bolt you see is only holding an outlet to the vertical bar and also the bathroom side cover, and was removed. > > thanks, > jim > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 8329F147-3086-4B45-941B-E58A4B8F8685.jpeg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 627487 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Shop-talk mailing list > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/shop-talk > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Shop-talk Digest, Vol 17, Issue 109 > ****************************************** > From jniolon at att.net Sat Jul 8 10:00:04 2023 From: jniolon at att.net (john) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2023 11:00:04 -0500 Subject: [Shop-talk] ham operators ? feed line help References: <1UeixbCf9V.1bFM6Ve9EL2.ref@johns-desktop> Message-ID: <1UeixbCf9V.1bFM6Ve9EL2@johns-desktop> we got any ham operators here ??? been out of the hobby for 30 years and trying to get back on a limited basis mainly vhf and uhf. I acquired some 1/2" rubber coated copper corrugated heliax feed line that I need to test and see if it's still good... It's 50 ohm and I can test with SWR meter and dummy load my question is... whoever took it down wasn't as careful as they should have been and there are some bulges and bends (not totally crimped) and I'm wondering how it will affect the SWR or impedance. I can get it round again with some judicious plier work. Just looking for some experienced info and guidance that might include other tests that a rookie might run... i.e how meaningful would resistance readings end to end be... I assume that a resistance reading should be infinity between center conductor and shell... educate me shop content... rig is in the shop and the antenna support is attached therewith. thanks john -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jblair1948 at cox.net Sat Jul 8 13:43:32 2023 From: jblair1948 at cox.net (JohnT Blair) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2023 15:43:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Shop-talk] ham operators ? feed line help In-Reply-To: <1UeixbCf9V.1bFM6Ve9EL2@johns-desktop> References: <1UeixbCf9V.1bFM6Ve9EL2.ref@johns-desktop> <1UeixbCf9V.1bFM6Ve9EL2@johns-desktop> Message-ID: <963027337.815935.1688845412514@myemail.cox.net> On 07/08/2023 12:00 PM EDT john wrote: >we got any ham operators here ??? been out of the hobby for 30 years and trying to get >back on a limited basis John, Yes, I've been licensed since '63. I'll contact you privately a little later today. JohnT John T. Blair WA4OHZ email: jblair1948 at cox.net Va. Beach, Va Phone: (757) 495-8229 65 Morgan 4/4 Series V (B1106) 75 Bricklin SV1 (#0887) 48 TR1800 48 #4 Midget 65, 77 Spitfire 71 Saab Sonett III 65 Rambler Classic 65 Volvo P1800 Morgan: http://autox.team.net/morgan/ http://autox.team.net/morgan/ Bricklin: http://www.bricklin.org http://www.bricklin.org/ If you can read this - Thank a teacher! If you are reading it in English - Thank a Vet!! >From Dennis Prager - The American Trilogy: e pluribus Unum, "from many, one." In God We Trust Liberty - the power of choosing, thinking, and acting for oneself; freedom from control or restriction -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From peterwmurray at gmail.com Sun Jul 9 19:40:49 2023 From: peterwmurray at gmail.com (Peter Murray) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2023 21:40:49 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] wireless router help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sorry for the late reply, I just got back from a long trip! Those error messages look like minor DOCSIS cable infrastructure issues. I'd get on with your ISP support and have them make sure there aren't signal or other issues. None of what I'm seeing of those 4 look terribly problematic, but I'm sure there are many more errors. They're pretty constant on my Cox cablemodem (most cablemodems are accessible for your viewing via 192.168.100.1). About 5 years ago on my Cox Business connection, I had an issue where every 140 minutes, my modem would lose sync for 15 or so seconds and then reconnect. Cox refused to involve the DOCSIS (Cable's high-speed data modulation over RF/Coax protocol) team until they'd replaced lines, modems, dug in my yard, etc - but in the end, it was indeed a DOCSIS issue. About 20 years ago, I had an ADSL connection with Verizon (768K/128K). Was really happy with it until I realized that everytime I'd establish a SSH connection to a not-very-remote Linux system, my modem would lose sync. Nobody could figure it out, so after some runaround, modem swaps and other palaver, I told the provider to disconnect, and I got SDSL (512K/512K) which didn't exhibit that or any other issues for as long as I used it. I also noticed that the original ADSL line never stopped working, so I continued to use it for as long as I lived there - but not for SSH. -Peter On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 4:04?PM Tim . wrote: > My modem/router is about three y ears old. It is either losing connection > to the web or my ISP keeps "flashing" off for lack of a better term. The > connection fails sometime just long enough to kick me off the vpn for work. > > Can anyone see what might be the cause from these log entries? > Is my modem losing connection? > Or is my ISP the cause? > > THANKS!!! > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/peterwmurray at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I only work in the garage on weekends but I am in the bead blasting stage of my restoration so using the compressor heavily those 2 days a week. ?They said turn it off and drain all the air, then cycle it back on and listen for the "Hiss" (their word) when the compressor shuts off and listen for the hiss and keep doing that until the compressor does not cycle anymore, did I hear the hiss or not, did the motor hum when trying to restart ??? If that is the case the unloader valve is bad.? I do normally hear the hiss, I don't pay attention EVERY time though and the motor does not hum. ?Isn't it just a pressure valve ? this thing is over 20 years old and first time giving me issues.? But they want to send out a tech to diagnose and fix the issue meaning having to take a day off work and spend $$$ when it should be simple. I do agree with the guy that I don't want to throw money at the problem and swap random parts but I don't need a tech, just how to diag which part is the issue.?? I am going to be blasting a lot over the weekend. ??? mike -- As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage Singer, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Singer shop manual. From fishplate at gmail.com Tue Jul 11 14:38:27 2023 From: fishplate at gmail.com (Jeff Scarbrough) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 16:38:27 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] Air compressor issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I wonder if the starting (pressure) switch is sticking as it heats up. This is based on the fact that it works cold, but has to drop lower and lower as it warms up to restart. I would try using it as normal, and once the restart is delayed (maybe tank is at 30 or 40 psi) rap the pressure switch with the handle of a substantial screwdriver. -- Jeff On Tue, Jul 11, 2023, 16:31 Mike Rambour wrote: > Hi, > > Having a problem with my 5hp Champion Advantage compressor. I called > TPTools where I purchased it in 2001 and they were useless, they want to > send out a service rep to fix it ($$$). > > The issue its having is first 2 or 3 cycles of the day when its cold, it > cycles normally, comes on at around 120-125PSI and shuts off at 175PSI, > after those 2 or 3 cycles it only comes back on at around 15PSI or even > lower and it does this all day until next day. I only work in the > garage on weekends but I am in the bead blasting stage of my restoration > so using the compressor heavily those 2 days a week. > > They said turn it off and drain all the air, then cycle it back on and > listen for the "Hiss" (their word) when the compressor shuts off and > listen for the hiss and keep doing that until the compressor does not > cycle anymore, did I hear the hiss or not, did the motor hum when trying > to restart ? If that is the case the unloader valve is bad. I do > normally hear the hiss, I don't pay attention EVERY time though and the > motor does not hum. > > Isn't it just a pressure valve ? this thing is over 20 years old and > first time giving me issues. But they want to send out a tech to > diagnose and fix the issue meaning having to take a day off work and > spend $$$ when it should be simple. I do agree with the guy that I don't > want to throw money at the problem and swap random parts but I don't > need a tech, just how to diag which part is the issue. 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URL: From dave1massey at cs.com Tue Jul 11 14:39:05 2023 From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 20:39:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Shop-talk] Air compressor issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <627562105.2730611.1689107945783@mail.yahoo.com> It could be something clogging the port to the pressure switch holding residual pressure there in a sense "faking" it out.? I'd try taking the switch off and some of the associated plumbing and blow it out.? Maybe a new switch is in your future. Dave On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 03:30:16 PM CDT, Mike Rambour wrote: ?Hi, Having a problem with my 5hp Champion Advantage compressor.? I called TPTools where I purchased it in 2001 and they were useless, they want to send out a service rep to fix it ($$$). The issue its having is first 2 or 3 cycles of the day when its cold, it cycles normally, comes on at around 120-125PSI and shuts off at 175PSI, after those 2 or 3 cycles it only comes back on at around 15PSI or even lower and it does this all day until next day.? I only work in the garage on weekends but I am in the bead blasting stage of my restoration so using the compressor heavily those 2 days a week. ?They said turn it off and drain all the air, then cycle it back on and listen for the "Hiss" (their word) when the compressor shuts off and listen for the hiss and keep doing that until the compressor does not cycle anymore, did I hear the hiss or not, did the motor hum when trying to restart ??? If that is the case the unloader valve is bad.? I do normally hear the hiss, I don't pay attention EVERY time though and the motor does not hum. ?Isn't it just a pressure valve ? this thing is over 20 years old and first time giving me issues.? But they want to send out a tech to diagnose and fix the issue meaning having to take a day off work and spend $$$ when it should be simple. I do agree with the guy that I don't want to throw money at the problem and swap random parts but I don't need a tech, just how to diag which part is the issue.?? 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URL: From patintexas at icloud.com Tue Jul 11 14:48:16 2023 From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 15:48:16 -0500 Subject: [Shop-talk] Air compressor issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mike, I assume from your description that you shut the compressor off during the week when you are not using it & the pressure bleeds of over the week & does a cold start when you are ready to work. I think I?d start by removing the cover from the pressure switch & making sure there isn?t some kind of nest or insect in there. Next, since the compressor is older, I?d clean the contacts on the switch. It can?t hurt unless you try to do it with power on! If it still behaves the same, with the pressure below about 100, lightly tap the switch with an insulated handle to see if something is sticking. If so, either clean & lube it, or just replace it, they?re not expensive. How does the switch measure pressure, internally via a pipe fitting or via a small line going to the tank? It wouldn?t hurt to pull the switch & see that there isn?t junk in the line. Good luck. Peace, Pat Pat Horne We support Habitat for Humanity On Jul 11, 2023, at 3:33 PM, Mike Rambour wrote: ? Hi, Having a problem with my 5hp Champion Advantage compressor. I called TPTools where I purchased it in 2001 and they were useless, they want to send out a service rep to fix it ($$$). The issue its having is first 2 or 3 cycles of the day when its cold, it cycles normally, comes on at around 120-125PSI and shuts off at 175PSI, after those 2 or 3 cycles it only comes back on at around 15PSI or even lower and it does this all day until next day. I only work in the garage on weekends but I am in the bead blasting stage of my restoration so using the compressor heavily those 2 days a week. They said turn it off and drain all the air, then cycle it back on and listen for the "Hiss" (their word) when the compressor shuts off and listen for the hiss and keep doing that until the compressor does not cycle anymore, did I hear the hiss or not, did the motor hum when trying to restart ? If that is the case the unloader valve is bad. I do normally hear the hiss, I don't pay attention EVERY time though and the motor does not hum. Isn't it just a pressure valve ? this thing is over 20 years old and first time giving me issues. But they want to send out a tech to diagnose and fix the issue meaning having to take a day off work and spend $$$ when it should be simple. I do agree with the guy that I don't want to throw money at the problem and swap random parts but I don't need a tech, just how to diag which part is the issue. I am going to be blasting a lot over the weekend. mike -- As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage Singer, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Singer shop manual. _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/patintexas at icloud.com From tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com Wed Jul 12 14:55:54 2023 From: tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com (Tim .) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2023 20:55:54 +0000 Subject: [Shop-talk] wireless router help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for the advise to those who replied. The drone on the phone accessed my router's logs and admitted there was an issue/fault on their end. According to the tech who came out, there were "bad connections" between the coax and the modem as well as at my cable box. Not sure how that happens (and the lines are not that old) but would have to assume that the tech who made the connections did a crappy job. I guess time will tell if this issue (shyte) keeps happening. Thanks again ________________________________ From: Peter Murray Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 8:40 PM To: Tim . Cc: Shop Talk Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] wireless router help Sorry for the late reply, I just got back from a long trip! Those error messages look like minor DOCSIS cable infrastructure issues. I'd get on with your ISP support and have them make sure there aren't signal or other issues. None of what I'm seeing of those 4 look terribly problematic, but I'm sure there are many more errors. They're pretty constant on my Cox cablemodem (most cablemodems are accessible for your viewing via 192.168.100.1). About 5 years ago on my Cox Business connection, I had an issue where every 140 minutes, my modem would lose sync for 15 or so seconds and then reconnect. Cox refused to involve the DOCSIS (Cable's high-speed data modulation over RF/Coax protocol) team until they'd replaced lines, modems, dug in my yard, etc - but in the end, it was indeed a DOCSIS issue. About 20 years ago, I had an ADSL connection with Verizon (768K/128K). Was really happy with it until I realized that everytime I'd establish a SSH connection to a not-very-remote Linux system, my modem would lose sync. Nobody could figure it out, so after some runaround, modem swaps and other palaver, I told the provider to disconnect, and I got SDSL (512K/512K) which didn't exhibit that or any other issues for as long as I used it. I also noticed that the original ADSL line never stopped working, so I continued to use it for as long as I lived there - but not for SSH. -Peter On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 4:04?PM Tim . > wrote: My modem/router is about three y ears old. It is either losing connection to the web or my ISP keeps "flashing" off for lack of a better term. The connection fails sometime just long enough to kick me off the vpn for work. Can anyone see what might be the cause from these log entries? Is my modem losing connection? Or is my ISP the cause? THANKS!!! [cid:1893d65fb29cb971f161] _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/peterwmurray at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.png Type: image/png Size: 65063 bytes Desc: image.png URL: From eric at megageek.com Thu Jul 13 14:29:20 2023 From: eric at megageek.com (eric at megageek.com) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2023 16:29:20 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] Laser Rust Removers- The future is here! Message-ID: Fellow gear-heads and ?shop?aholics! I wanted to follow up on the laser rust remover that I finally bought. I found a vendor that youtubers had purchased from with good luck. After asking them questions, they were happy to point me to their source. http://www.fortunelaser.com/ The first thing I found, was that this is a Chinese company and I was VERY hesitant to do business there. I contacted their sales staff and found Jason, an amazingly patient and quite well-spoken rep that took time to promptly address all my questions. I finally settled on the laser that seemed to be right for me. At nearly $10,000 (with shipping) it wasn?t a casual purchase. But I figured, hell, I?m not married, why not! 8>) Then I found out that I must do a wire transfer to a Chinese bank and a PO to complete a purchase. No credit card protection or anything like that. I was VERY concerned. Then fate dealt me a small windfall and I decided that I would take a chance. So I did the deal. Then, when the laser finally arrived, it was damaged! (Clearing in shipping.) However, Jason, worked with me 100%. First, hey sent me a new power supply, but when I put that in, there were other issues. We tried local troubleshooting over email. No joy. It was decided that I would ship the unit back (at their cost) and they would send a new one. Again, I was VERY concerned. However, during every step of the way, Jason answered questions, gave me updates and did 100% of what he said he would. So how does it work? I don?t even know where to start. It cleans ANYTHING. Hell, I even tried it as a laser hair removal system on my arm (which it so far seems to work.) It will take plating off base metals. Ink off off paper, paint off of metal, vaporize anything between the laser and surface. Here are some videos of it from me? https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPbYCr9ju28SkVgcPYogCMLsTJN8J_aX9iVluDLgDEQ3-uuMwri2g77LoDfqOo94w?key=Q0Y5eWpad2JHN00xSXdoZ2EtOUFmMDdfWkk5b293 The videos didn?t come out that well, and I?m not that experienced with it. There are tons of settings with it to control how much ?removal? you get. But it is super easy to try things as long as you can keep it at the right focal point. If any of you are near NJ and want to come and try it out, just let me know. There are many different types of lasers (pulse and continuous), power levels, 100W to 3000w, and some even can weld and cut also! So there is a lot to learn about this new technology. PLEASE read this next part carefully? If you want to buy one for yourself (the prices are coming down) please feel free to contact Jason at jason at fortunelaser.com and tell him I sent you. He will be more than happy to help. I do not get ANY consideration if you do this. HOWEVER, if you are not comfortable dealing oversees and making huge bank transfers to China, not to mention that you need to be a business or get hit with tariffs on their end. I will be more than happy to be an intermediary. But I would charge a small percentage for my effort, time, and risk. But feel free to ask me any questions, come over and try it out on your own projects, or contact Jason directly. These lasers really are the future! Moose -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patintexas at icloud.com Thu Jul 13 17:35:24 2023 From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2023 18:35:24 -0500 Subject: [Shop-talk] Laser Rust Removers- The future is here! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <89DC4921-F9AD-4E90-997B-F457A946D103@icloud.com> That looks really cool! Wish I could afford one & have enough use for it to be feasible. I hope the unit lasts long enough to get your $$ worth. While watching the clip of cleaning what looked to be a pewter or aluminum vessel, I wondered if it could be used to clean up oxidized aluminum carburetors like old SU or Hitachi without removing enough material to make them useless. Must the laser be at right angles to the work? Peace, Pat Pat Horne We support Habitat for Humanity On Jul 13, 2023, at 6:18 PM, eric at megageek.com wrote: ?Fellow gear-heads and ?shop?aholics! I wanted to follow up on the laser rust remover that I finally bought. I found a vendor that youtubers had purchased from with good luck. After asking them questions, they were happy to point me to their source. http://www.fortunelaser.com/ The first thing I found, was that this is a Chinese company and I was VERY hesitant to do business there. I contacted their sales staff and found Jason, an amazingly patient and quite well-spoken rep that took time to promptly address all my questions. I finally settled on the laser that seemed to be right for me. At nearly $10,000 (with shipping) it wasn?t a casual purchase. But I figured, hell, I?m not married, why not! 8>) Then I found out that I must do a wire transfer to a Chinese bank and a PO to complete a purchase. No credit card protection or anything like that. I was VERY concerned. Then fate dealt me a small windfall and I decided that I would take a chance. So I did the deal. Then, when the laser finally arrived, it was damaged! (Clearing in shipping.) However, Jason, worked with me 100%. First, hey sent me a new power supply, but when I put that in, there were other issues. We tried local troubleshooting over email. No joy. It was decided that I would ship the unit back (at their cost) and they would send a new one. Again, I was VERY concerned. However, during every step of the way, Jason answered questions, gave me updates and did 100% of what he said he would. So how does it work? I don?t even know where to start. It cleans ANYTHING. Hell, I even tried it as a laser hair removal system on my arm (which it so far seems to work.) It will take plating off base metals. Ink off off paper, paint off of metal, vaporize anything between the laser and surface. Here are some videos of it from me? https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPbYCr9ju28SkVgcPYogCMLsTJN8J_aX9iVluDLgDEQ3-uuMwri2g77LoDfqOo94w?key=Q0Y5eWpad2JHN00xSXdoZ2EtOUFmMDdfWkk5b293 The videos didn?t come out that well, and I?m not that experienced with it. There are tons of settings with it to control how much ?removal? you get. But it is super easy to try things as long as you can keep it at the right focal point. If any of you are near NJ and want to come and try it out, just let me know. There are many different types of lasers (pulse and continuous), power levels, 100W to 3000w, and some even can weld and cut also! So there is a lot to learn about this new technology. PLEASE read this next part carefully? If you want to buy one for yourself (the prices are coming down) please feel free to contact Jason at jason at fortunelaser.com and tell him I sent you. He will be more than happy to help. I do not get ANY consideration if you do this. HOWEVER, if you are not comfortable dealing oversees and making huge bank transfers to China, not to mention that you need to be a business or get hit with tariffs on their end. I will be more than happy to be an intermediary. But I would charge a small percentage for my effort, time, and risk. But feel free to ask me any questions, come over and try it out on your own projects, or contact Jason directly. These lasers really are the future! Moose _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/patintexas at icloud.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eric at megageek.com Thu Jul 13 18:31:15 2023 From: eric at megageek.com (eric at megageek.com) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2023 20:31:15 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] Laser Rust Removers- The future is here! In-Reply-To: <89DC4921-F9AD-4E90-997B-F457A946D103@icloud.com> References: <89DC4921-F9AD-4E90-997B-F457A946D103@icloud.com> Message-ID: I will try to find an old carb. It doesn't need to be at a right angle, in fact, that is where it really excels, when you have fine details, it gets into the grooves and cleans it like a champ. There really isn't any consumables on this model, but they do include some extra lenses incase they get scratched. I'll post more videos when I find an old carb. moose From: Pat Horne To: eric at megageek.com Cc: Shop-talk at autox.team.net Date: 07/13/2023 07:35 PM Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Laser Rust Removers- The future is here! That looks really cool! Wish I could afford one & have enough use for it to be feasible. I hope the unit lasts long enough to get your $$ worth. While watching the clip of cleaning what looked to be a pewter or aluminum vessel, I wondered if it could be used to clean up oxidized aluminum carburetors like old SU or Hitachi without removing enough material to make them useless. Must the laser be at right angles to the work? Peace, Pat Pat Horne We support Habitat for Humanity On Jul 13, 2023, at 6:18 PM, eric at megageek.com wrote: ?Fellow gear-heads and ?shop?aholics! I wanted to follow up on the laser rust remover that I finally bought. I found a vendor that youtubers had purchased from with good luck. After asking them questions, they were happy to point me to their source. http://www.fortunelaser.com/ The first thing I found, was that this is a Chinese company and I was VERY hesitant to do business there. I contacted their sales staff and found Jason, an amazingly patient and quite well-spoken rep that took time to promptly address all my questions. I finally settled on the laser that seemed to be right for me. At nearly $10,000 (with shipping) it wasn?t a casual purchase. But I figured, hell, I?m not married, why not! 8>) Then I found out that I must do a wire transfer to a Chinese bank and a PO to complete a purchase. No credit card protection or anything like that. I was VERY concerned. Then fate dealt me a small windfall and I decided that I would take a chance. So I did the deal. Then, when the laser finally arrived, it was damaged! (Clearing in shipping.) However, Jason, worked with me 100%. First, hey sent me a new power supply, but when I put that in, there were other issues. We tried local troubleshooting over email. No joy. It was decided that I would ship the unit back (at their cost) and they would send a new one. Again, I was VERY concerned. However, during every step of the way, Jason answered questions, gave me updates and did 100% of what he said he would. So how does it work? I don?t even know where to start. It cleans ANYTHING. Hell, I even tried it as a laser hair removal system on my arm (which it so far seems to work.) It will take plating off base metals. Ink off off paper, paint off of metal, vaporize anything between the laser and surface. Here are some videos of it from me? https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPbYCr9ju28SkVgcPYogCMLsTJN8J_aX9iVluDLgDEQ3-uuMwri2g77LoDfqOo94w?key=Q0Y5eWpad2JHN00xSXdoZ2EtOUFmMDdfWkk5b293 The videos didn?t come out that well, and I?m not that experienced with it. There are tons of settings with it to control how much ?removal? you get. But it is super easy to try things as long as you can keep it at the right focal point. If any of you are near NJ and want to come and try it out, just let me know. There are many different types of lasers (pulse and continuous), power levels, 100W to 3000w, and some even can weld and cut also! So there is a lot to learn about this new technology. PLEASE read this next part carefully? If you want to buy one for yourself (the prices are coming down) please feel free to contact Jason at jason at fortunelaser.com and tell him I sent you. He will be more than happy to help. I do not get ANY consideration if you do this. HOWEVER, if you are not comfortable dealing oversees and making huge bank transfers to China, not to mention that you need to be a business or get hit with tariffs on their end. I will be more than happy to be an intermediary. But I would charge a small percentage for my effort, time, and risk. But feel free to ask me any questions, come over and try it out on your own projects, or contact Jason directly. These lasers really are the future! Moose _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/patintexas at icloud.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jniolon at att.net Mon Jul 17 08:32:55 2023 From: jniolon at att.net (john) Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2023 09:32:55 -0500 Subject: [Shop-talk] shortening trailer jack References: <1Uej7P9TBB.3AFLZ7nOtGp.ref@johns-desktop> Message-ID: <1Uej7P9TBB.3AFLZ7nOtGp@johns-desktop> I've got a typical screw down trailer jack that I want to use for a smaller, shorter project I need something to hold up a leaf vacuum when disconnected from the mower and this jack is too long and ungainly for this little project I haven't taken it apart yet so looking for some insight. It shouldn't be complicated (shorten outer shaft and inner screw, right) but don't want to render it useless thanks john -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: jack.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 5943 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0598.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1061315 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ejrussell61 at gmail.com Mon Jul 17 08:59:31 2023 From: ejrussell61 at gmail.com (Eric Russell) Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2023 10:59:31 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] shortening trailer jack In-Reply-To: <1Uej7P9TBB.3AFLZ7nOtGp@johns-desktop> References: <1Uej7P9TBB.3AFLZ7nOtGp.ref@johns-desktop> <1Uej7P9TBB.3AFLZ7nOtGp@johns-desktop> Message-ID: Where is it too long? At the top or the bottom? The jack on my car trailer would scrape when exiting some driveways. I put some blocks between the jack & the tongue (with longer bolts) to raise the entire jack up 2". EjR On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 10:54?AM john wrote: > I've got a typical screw down trailer jack that I want to use for a > smaller, shorter project > > > I need something to hold up a leaf vacuum when disconnected from the mower > and this > jack is too long and ungainly for this little project > > > I haven't taken it apart yet so looking for some insight. 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Name: IMG_0598.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1061315 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jamesf at groupwbench.org Mon Jul 17 09:29:04 2023 From: jamesf at groupwbench.org (Jim Franklin) Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2023 11:29:04 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] shortening trailer jack In-Reply-To: <1Uej7P9TBB.3AFLZ7nOtGp@johns-desktop> References: <1Uej7P9TBB.3AFLZ7nOtGp.ref@johns-desktop> <1Uej7P9TBB.3AFLZ7nOtGp@johns-desktop> Message-ID: <53EFCF9A-D38B-49D8-AB19-D8FB16B033E8@groupwbench.org> Can you mount it higher and take up the space with spacers and long bolts? jim > On Jul 17, 2023, at 10:32 AM, john wrote: > > I've got a typical screw down trailer jack that I want to use for a smaller, shorter project > > > I need something to hold up a leaf vacuum when disconnected from the mower and this > jack is too long and ungainly for this little project > > > > I haven't taken it apart yet so looking for some insight. It shouldn't be complicated (shorten outer shaft and inner screw, right) > but don't want to render it useless > > thanks > john > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/jamesf at groupwbench.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eric at megageek.com Mon Jul 17 10:32:04 2023 From: eric at megageek.com (eric at megageek.com) Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2023 12:32:04 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] shortening trailer jack In-Reply-To: <1Uej7P9TBB.3AFLZ7nOtGp@johns-desktop> References: <1Uej7P9TBB.3AFLZ7nOtGp.ref@johns-desktop> <1Uej7P9TBB.3AFLZ7nOtGp@johns-desktop> Message-ID: Take it apart, it is more likely completely straight forward. I bet it's just like (or very close to) what you stated. These are serviceable and super simple. The question I wanted to know, is if anyone ever figured out how to have the jack wheel swivel when there is a load on it. None of mine ever do. Moose From: "john" To: "shop-talk" Date: 07/17/2023 10:56 AM Subject: [Shop-talk] shortening trailer jack Sent by: "Shop-talk" I've got a typical screw down trailer jack that I want to use for a smaller, shorter project I need something to hold up a leaf vacuum when disconnected from the mower and this jack is too long and ungainly for this little project I haven't taken it apart yet so looking for some insight. 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URL: From ronnie.day at gmail.com Mon Jul 17 12:33:36 2023 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2023 13:33:36 -0500 Subject: [Shop-talk] shortening trailer jack In-Reply-To: <1Uej7P9TBB.3AFLZ7nOtGp@johns-desktop> References: <1Uej7P9TBB.3AFLZ7nOtGp.ref@johns-desktop> <1Uej7P9TBB.3AFLZ7nOtGp@johns-desktop> Message-ID: Why not just get a swivel tongue jack? Northern Tool has this (*https://tinyurl.com/2p22mgqd *) for $40. I replaced the tongue jack like yours on our utility trailer with one from Horrible Freight or Northern some years ago. Works great. They're also available from eTrailer, Wally World, etc, for more money it looks like. Very easy bolt on installation or you could weld it if you want. RD On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 10:07?AM john wrote: > I've got a typical screw down trailer jack that I want to use for a > smaller, shorter project > > > I need something to hold up a leaf vacuum when disconnected from the mower > and this > jack is too long and ungainly for this little project > > > I haven't taken it apart yet so looking for some insight. It shouldn't be > complicated (shorten outer shaft and inner screw, right) > but don't want to render it useless > > thanks > john > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/ronnie.day at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I tried the a ler stabilizer type leg but I'm still lifting the entire weight of the engine and some of the frame to set the leg...(again...I'm old) JIM, afa where it's too high it's probably too long on the bottom... I haven't actually done any measurements or fit-up yet. I was just wondering if the adaption would be that difficult. I'll have to fab up a mount for it anyway (it's a bulldog mount now) so my mounting options are totally open. guess I just need to tear it apart and see... john ----- Original Message ----- From: Ronnie Day To: john , Shop-Talk List Sent: 7/17/2023 1:33:36 PM Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] shortening trailer jack Why not just get a swivel tongue jack? Northern Tool has this (https://tinyurl.com/2p22mgqd) for $40. I replaced the tongue jack like yours on our utility trailer with one from Horrible Freight or Northern some years ago. Works great. They're also available from eTrailer, Wally World, etc, for more money it looks like. Very easy bolt on installation or you could weld it if you want. RD On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 10:07?AM john wrote: I've got a typical screw down trailer jack that I want to use for a smaller, shorter project I need something to hold up a leaf vacuum when disconnected from the mower and this jack is too long and ungainly for this little project I haven't taken it apart yet so looking for some insight. It shouldn't be complicated (shorten outer shaft and inner screw, right) but don't want to render it useless thanks john _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/ronnie.day at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 1:56?PM wrote: > Take it apart, it is more likely completely straight forward. I bet it's > just like (or very close to) what you stated. > > These are serviceable and super simple. > > The question I wanted to know, is if anyone ever figured out how to have > the jack wheel swivel when there is a load on it. None of mine ever do. > > Moose > > > > From: "john" > To: "shop-talk" > Date: 07/17/2023 10:56 AM > Subject: [Shop-talk] shortening trailer jack > Sent by: "Shop-talk" > ------------------------------ > > > > I've got a typical screw down trailer jack that I want to use for a > smaller, shorter project > > > I need something to hold up a leaf vacuum when disconnected from the mower > and this > jack is too long and ungainly for this little project > > > > I haven't taken it apart yet so looking for some insight. It shouldn't be > complicated (shorten outer shaft and inner screw, right) > but don't want to render it useless > > thanks > john[attachment "jack.jpg" deleted by Eric Petrevich/Megageek] [attachment > "IMG_0598.jpg" deleted by Eric Petrevich/Megageek] > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/eric at megageek.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/jdinnis at gmail.com > > -- ================================= = Never offend people with style when you = = can offend with substance --- Sam Brown = ================================= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alfuller194 at gmail.com Tue Jul 18 15:07:27 2023 From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (alfuller194 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2023 14:07:27 -0700 Subject: [Shop-talk] FW: FW: shortening trailer jack In-Reply-To: References: <1Uej7P9TBB.3AFLZ7nOtGp.ref@johns-desktop> <1Uej7P9TBB.3AFLZ7nOtGp@johns-desktop> <35a401d9b8e5$f211ba90$d6352fb0$@gmail.com> <3ef201d9b996$8d3bcdc0$a7b36940$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <418f01d9b9bb$dc0f6680$942e3380$@gmail.com> I don?t know if this is relevant to the current discussion, but a friend has the Cyclone Rake and also has issues with having something to get it to stand up on its own when not in use. He is using the jack from Cyclone Rake, but it must be totally removed when not in use [as opposed to just folded up and out of the way?]. I guess if we come up with a solution he will be grateful too!! His description of the unit is below, with pictures. ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2023 11:13 AM To: Alfonso Fuller Subject: Re: FW: [Shop-talk] shortening trailer jack Hi Al, similar to mine... The Cyclone rake has a mounting bracket that has to be installed. The LA115 (mine) John Deere has a transmission neutral lever that is in the way (in this case). The lever is pulled so someone can move the tractor around without starting it. If I put the plate above the lever, I can't reach it under the plate to safely pull on it or push it in. So I mounted the bracket below the lever. With the jack completely recessed up, I have to lift the trailer up a couple of inches to mount the jack or unmount it. The jack is not designed to be left on the trailer while connected to the tractor. The trailer is front heavy because the engine is on the front of the trailer. I expect at some point I'll get a bigger tractor and the mounting points will be different. Meanwhile, I'll have to figure something out or just keep lifting (not easy or light). The front wheel is fine if on a smooth surface. On Tue, Jul 18, 2023, 12:40 PM > wrote: I?m not visualizing what you are describing, but if the wheel is too small ? maybe get a cheap caster at Northern Tools or Harbor Freight? ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: Sent: Monday, July 17, 2023 8:03 PM To: Al Fuller > Subject: Re: FW: [Shop-talk] shortening trailer jack Ok, not useless. Sorry.. It doesn't work well for me because I "had to" mount the trailer mounting plate low on my tractor. Unfortunately it's too low for the Jack (already at its lowest adjustment) to attach easily. IMHO the wheel on the Jack is too small. I need to figure out how to make them work together. On Mon, Jul 17, 2023, 9:49 PM Al Fuller > wrote: Ok ________________ Best Regards, Al Fuller On Mon, Jul 17, 2023, 6:18pm *** wrote: I bought the official one, worthless IMHO. On Mon, Jul 17, 2023, 3:36 PM > wrote: What do you use [if anything?] ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: Shop-talk > On Behalf Of john Sent: Monday, July 17, 2023 7:33 AM To: shop-talk > Subject: [Shop-talk] shortening trailer jack I've got a typical screw down trailer jack that I want to use for a smaller, shorter project I need something to hold up a leaf vacuum when disconnected from the mower and this jack is too long and ungainly for this little project I haven't taken it apart yet so looking for some insight. It shouldn't be complicated (shorten outer shaft and inner screw, right) but don't want to render it useless thanks john -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.png Type: image/png Size: 963456 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I stripped the shellac off the top and laid it face down on the lawn to try and introduce moisture to the top while the sun baked the underside under weight, but it didn't move. I was able to remove the loosened underside veneer (maybe I should have done this before I put it in the sun?) but a few hours of hot steam and clamps wasn't enough to budge things. I don't want to remove the top veneer since I'd prefer a warped top to destroyed veneer. It seems I have 2 choices - soak the underside long enough for the entire 1/2" thick solid wood top to get wet and then clamp and dry it, and risk loosening the veneer, or build an environment where the humidity is very low and let the underside dry out well below ambient humidity, pulling the top straight. I'm in MA and it's a very damp summer. Any thoughts on which is better, and if the latter, how to create this artifical desert? thanks, jim From ejrussell61 at gmail.com Tue Jul 25 18:17:12 2023 From: ejrussell61 at gmail.com (Eric Russell) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2023 20:17:12 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] Unwarping an antique tabletop? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you have fairly unobstructed access to the underside, you can use a Skill saw or router to cut some grooves 1/2 to 3/4 of the thickness of the table's top (especially in areas of the most warpage) and then add some cleats across the underside to pull the warpage of it. I wouldn't do this to a valuable antique but it is more likely to be successful than trying to rehydrate/dehydrate warped wood. EjR On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 7:56?PM Jim Franklin wrote: > I foolishly picked up a "free" 1930s dining table. It has a stunning > veneered top and nice fluted double legs with intricate designs on the > skirt. > > It was free because the PO stored it in his basement and the top warped > pretty good, the sides cupping upwards as moisture entered the underside. > > I stripped the shellac off the top and laid it face down on the lawn to > try and introduce moisture to the top while the sun baked the underside > under weight, but it didn't move. I was able to remove the loosened > underside veneer (maybe I should have done this before I put it in the > sun?) but a few hours of hot steam and clamps wasn't enough to budge > things. I don't want to remove the top veneer since I'd prefer a warped top > to destroyed veneer. > > It seems I have 2 choices - soak the underside long enough for the entire > 1/2" thick solid wood top to get wet and then clamp and dry it, and risk > loosening the veneer, or build an environment where the humidity is very > low and let the underside dry out well below ambient humidity, pulling the > top straight. I'm in MA and it's a very damp summer. > > Any thoughts on which is better, and if the latter, how to create this > artifical desert? > > thanks, > jim > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/ejrussell61 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mbarre at juno.com Wed Jul 26 05:22:06 2023 From: mbarre at juno.com (Matt) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2023 11:22:06 GMT Subject: [Shop-talk] Unwarping an antique tabletop? Message-ID: <20230726.072206.31166.0@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> Regarding the artificial desert, I would suggest several handfulls of the desiccant packs tossed in with almost everything manufactured of shipped these days. Then cover with plastic film. I have a container near my recycle bin that I toss these packs into during the unpacking process. When I want to use them, I will subject them to low heat for an extended period to recharge or dry them out. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Jim Franklin To: shop-talk Subject: [Shop-talk] Unwarping an antique tabletop? Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2023 19:45:46 -0400 I foolishly picked up a "free" 1930s dining table. It has a stunning veneered top and nice fluted double legs with intricate designs on the skirt. It was free because the PO stored it in his basement and the top warped pretty good, the sides cupping upwards as moisture entered the underside. I stripped the shellac off the top and laid it face down on the lawn to try and introduce moisture to the top while the sun baked the underside under weight, but it didn't move. I was able to remove the loosened underside veneer (maybe I should have done this before I put it in the sun?) but a few hours of hot steam and clamps wasn't enough to budge things. I don't want to remove the top veneer since I'd prefer a warped top to destroyed veneer. It seems I have 2 choices - soak the underside long enough for the entire 1/2" thick solid wood top to get wet and then clamp and dry it, and risk loosening the veneer, or build an environment where the humidity is very low and let the underside dry out well below ambient humidity, pulling the top straight. I'm in MA and it's a very damp summer. Any thoughts on which is better, and if the latter, how to create this artifical desert? thanks, jim _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mbarre at juno.com From jmitch at snet.net Sun Jul 30 10:30:18 2023 From: jmitch at snet.net (John Mitchell) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2023 12:30:18 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] Window lubricant References: <50e7c420-f47a-539a-ac04-edd387a28a07.ref@snet.net> Message-ID: <50e7c420-f47a-539a-ac04-edd387a28a07@snet.net> I have tilt in double hung windows, that I installed about 10 years ago.? It's gotten harder for my wife to open them herself and I'm looking for a lubricant that will not be sticky and attract dirt.? The windows are wood and the jamb liners have some type of fabric strip which I guess is what causes the friction.? I tried spraying them with Liquid Wrench dry lubricant, but it only helped slightly.? As for shop content, I plan on keeping said lubricant in the shop?.? Thanks for any advice.? Shelton, CT From fishplate at gmail.com Sun Jul 30 10:54:14 2023 From: fishplate at gmail.com (Jeff Scarbrough) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2023 12:54:14 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] Window lubricant In-Reply-To: <50e7c420-f47a-539a-ac04-edd387a28a07@snet.net> References: <50e7c420-f47a-539a-ac04-edd387a28a07.ref@snet.net> <50e7c420-f47a-539a-ac04-edd387a28a07@snet.net> Message-ID: Beeswax? On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 12:48?PM John Mitchell wrote: > > I have tilt in double hung windows, that I installed about 10 years > ago. It's gotten harder for my wife to open them herself and I'm > looking for a lubricant that will not be sticky and attract dirt. The > windows are wood and the jamb liners have some type of fabric strip > which I guess is what causes the friction. I tried spraying them with > Liquid Wrench dry lubricant, but it only helped slightly. As for shop > content, I plan on keeping said lubricant in the shop?. Thanks for any > advice. Shelton, CT > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/fishplate at gmail.com > From jamesf at groupwbench.org Sun Jul 30 10:53:10 2023 From: jamesf at groupwbench.org (Jim Franklin) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2023 12:53:10 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] Window lubricant In-Reply-To: <50e7c420-f47a-539a-ac04-edd387a28a07@snet.net> References: <50e7c420-f47a-539a-ac04-edd387a28a07.ref@snet.net> <50e7c420-f47a-539a-ac04-edd387a28a07@snet.net> Message-ID: I'm 99% sure I used Elmer's Slide-All for my wood + vinyl double hungs. It's silicone spray and worked well. jim > On Jul 30, 2023, at 12:30 PM, John Mitchell wrote: > > I have tilt in double hung windows, that I installed about 10 years ago. It's gotten harder for my wife to open them herself and I'm looking for a lubricant that will not be sticky and attract dirt. The windows are wood and the jamb liners have some type of fabric strip which I guess is what causes the friction. I tried spraying them with Liquid Wrench dry lubricant, but it only helped slightly. As for shop content, I plan on keeping said lubricant in the shop?. Thanks for any advice. Shelton, CT > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/jamesf at groupwbench.org > From bk13 at earthlink.net Sun Jul 30 11:04:35 2023 From: bk13 at earthlink.net (Brian Kemp) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2023 10:04:35 -0700 Subject: [Shop-talk] Window lubricant In-Reply-To: <50e7c420-f47a-539a-ac04-edd387a28a07@snet.net> References: <50e7c420-f47a-539a-ac04-edd387a28a07.ref@snet.net> <50e7c420-f47a-539a-ac04-edd387a28a07@snet.net> Message-ID: <2c2e8b9b-c327-0e60-5c4d-ce04a313716b@earthlink.net> My suggestion is Wax. >From https://www.weekand.com/home-garden/article/make-old-wooden-windows-slide-18033002.php Candle wax is a go-to solution for windows that skip along in the sash channel as you move them rather than smoothly opening and closing. With the window in open position, rub candle wax or a block of paraffin along the sash channels left and right of the window. The sash channel is that area along which the frame glides. Close the window and rub wax on the upper part of both channels. Repeat this process once a year or whenever the windows seem like they need it. On 7/30/2023 9:30 AM, John Mitchell wrote: > I have tilt in double hung windows, that I installed about 10 years > ago. It's gotten harder for my wife to open them herself and I'm > looking for a lubricant that will not be sticky and attract dirt. The > windows are wood and the jamb liners have some type of fabric strip > which I guess is what causes the friction.? I tried spraying them with > Liquid Wrench dry lubricant, but it only helped slightly.? As for shop > content, I plan on keeping said lubricant in the shop?.? Thanks for > any advice.? Shelton, CT > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/bk13 at earthlink.net > From jmitch at snet.net Sun Jul 30 11:06:35 2023 From: jmitch at snet.net (John Mitchell) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2023 13:06:35 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] Window lubricant In-Reply-To: References: <50e7c420-f47a-539a-ac04-edd387a28a07.ref@snet.net> <50e7c420-f47a-539a-ac04-edd387a28a07@snet.net> Message-ID: I was just thing about trying some Johnson's paste wax.? John On 7/30/2023 12:54 PM, Jeff Scarbrough wrote: > Beeswax? > > On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 12:48?PM John Mitchell wrote: >> I have tilt in double hung windows, that I installed about 10 years >> ago. It's gotten harder for my wife to open them herself and I'm >> looking for a lubricant that will not be sticky and attract dirt. The >> windows are wood and the jamb liners have some type of fabric strip >> which I guess is what causes the friction. I tried spraying them with >> Liquid Wrench dry lubricant, but it only helped slightly. As for shop >> content, I plan on keeping said lubricant in the shop?. Thanks for any >> advice. Shelton, CT >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Shop-talk at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.96 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/fishplate at gmail.com >> From patintexas at icloud.com Sun Jul 30 11:19:11 2023 From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2023 12:19:11 -0500 Subject: [Shop-talk] Window lubricant In-Reply-To: <50e7c420-f47a-539a-ac04-edd387a28a07@snet.net> References: <50e7c420-f47a-539a-ac04-edd387a28a07@snet.net> Message-ID: <82BC7969-9967-401E-BEA9-9CBF0AE7313C@icloud.com> I talked with a friend who restores wood windows for the last 30+ years & he said to use paraffin wax, it?s the best thing he has used. Peace, Pat Pat Horne We support Habitat for Humanity On Jul 30, 2023, at 11:52 AM, John Mitchell wrote: ?I have tilt in double hung windows, that I installed about 10 years ago. It's gotten harder for my wife to open them herself and I'm looking for a lubricant that will not be sticky and attract dirt. The windows are wood and the jamb liners have some type of fabric strip which I guess is what causes the friction. I tried spraying them with Liquid Wrench dry lubricant, but it only helped slightly. As for shop content, I plan on keeping said lubricant in the shop?. Thanks for any advice. Shelton, CT _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/patintexas at icloud.com From patintexas at icloud.com Sun Jul 30 11:20:48 2023 From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2023 12:20:48 -0500 Subject: [Shop-talk] Window lubricant In-Reply-To: <50e7c420-f47a-539a-ac04-edd387a28a07@snet.net> References: <50e7c420-f47a-539a-ac04-edd387a28a07@snet.net> Message-ID: Oh, it lasts 3-4 years. Pat Horne We support Habitat for Humanity On Jul 30, 2023, at 11:52 AM, John Mitchell wrote: ?I have tilt in double hung windows, that I installed about 10 years ago. It's gotten harder for my wife to open them herself and I'm looking for a lubricant that will not be sticky and attract dirt. The windows are wood and the jamb liners have some type of fabric strip which I guess is what causes the friction. I tried spraying them with Liquid Wrench dry lubricant, but it only helped slightly. As for shop content, I plan on keeping said lubricant in the shop?. Thanks for any advice. Shelton, CT _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/patintexas at icloud.com From patintexas at icloud.com Sun Jul 30 11:49:11 2023 From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2023 12:49:11 -0500 Subject: [Shop-talk] Window lubricant In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: DON?T Try bees wax, it is sticky & will make things much worse. Paraffin wax is what is recommended. Peace, Pat Pat Horne We support Habitat for Humanity On Jul 30, 2023, at 12:08 PM, Jeff Scarbrough wrote: ?Beeswax? On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 12:48?PM John Mitchell wrote: > > I have tilt in double hung windows, that I installed about 10 years > ago. It's gotten harder for my wife to open them herself and I'm > looking for a lubricant that will not be sticky and attract dirt. The > windows are wood and the jamb liners have some type of fabric strip > which I guess is what causes the friction. I tried spraying them with > Liquid Wrench dry lubricant, but it only helped slightly. As for shop > content, I plan on keeping said lubricant in the shop?. Thanks for any > advice. Shelton, CT > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/fishplate at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/patintexas at icloud.com