[Shop-talk] Password management -- was HP M110we printer drivers

Wed Jun 22 12:20:50 MDT 2022

Well, I just looked in my password manager and I have a similar number of passwords. It looks like about 420 at current count, so I use a password manager program. Currently I use LastPass – using the premium version so I can get access on both mobile and desktop. I may be migrating to BitWarden this year, after giving it a trial period running alongside the other. 

The two main advantages I see are [1] I only have to remember a single [long, complex] master password, as opposed to trying to remember various for each site, and [2] the software generates long, random passwords that are near-impossible to break – especially when each site gets its own password [and soon, maybe random generated usernames, too]. A sample password would be “  No8U6T#r3 at nEEsjvlQrknCwJfUGD   ”.  It would take until the end of the universe using current computing to brute force that!

With individual, complex passwords I am more secure knowing that when some company I do business with gets hacked, all I have to change is the single password they have – as opposed to trying to figure out which other sites I used the same password on.

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All the best,

Al Fuller

From: Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Jeff Scarbrough
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 10:27 AM
To: Shop-talk at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] HP M110we printer drivers

>  I now have about 400 passwords, and I'm supposed to remember them?

I have a password system that allows me to create a unique password for each site, but I can figure out what it is by the system if I have forgotten it.  I keep a list for backup (on paper), but this has served me well.  Obviously I don't want to go into too much detail, but everything that needs a password has one unique feature, and one feature tying it to a group.  Since you all are clever people, you can figure something out.  Add a common element to make the passwords long enough (passphrase or acronym) and you are good to go.  You wind up with some combination of  [common part + group part + unique part]  The hardest part is changing all the passwords!

And after a 35 year career as an engineer with one foot in the IT world, I am amused to say that it was my 80-year-old father who provided me with the system.  I'm not sure I ever would have thought of it on my own.  I don't know where he got it from, but I'm grateful for how much easier my modern life is.

On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 10:15 AM John T. Blair <jblair1948 at cox.net <mailto:jblair1948 at cox.net> > wrote:

At 09:53 AM 6/22/2022, you wrote:

>Eric, moving more off topic, do smart products, like an air conditioner I can 
>ontrol from my iPhone, or web based security cameras, present the same 
>ecurity hole?, 

Jim,

I can't say for all, but I just bought a "U" window AC unit.  There is an app for
it you have to down load.  When we did, it wanted access to everything on our
smart phone.  So we deleted the app.  It doesn't need access to anything on 
my smart phone.  

This how "smart" thing is getting rediculous.  All these web sites that require a 
log on to even "window" shop.  I now have about 400 passwords, and I'm supposed to remember them?  Same thing with apps.  If I can go to a site with
my browser on my desk top, WHY do I need an app to do the same thing on my
cell phone?  I've quit going to all those sites.  But I doubt they will get the 
message.

John

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